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Harvey Weinstein Trial: Accuser Lauren Sivan Interview
"The views and opinions expressed in. This podcast are simply that opinions. All are presumed innocent until proven otherwise in a court of law sensitive live topics are discussed discretion is advised on this week's court. TV podcast we continue our gavel to gavel coverage of the Harvey Weinstein trial with an extended interview with Lawrence Avant one of the nearly ninety women who publicly accused him of sexual misconduct. Tom This is the court. TV podcast with vinny politics and Sima Ire Welcome to the court TV podcast. I'm Sima Ir here with my Buddy Vinnie Paul. Great to be here really. It's always great to be here because the podcast gives us an opportunity to really take it to another level. You know what I mean another level of depth because ears into your commute. Yeah your kitchen the stuff I love this what I I lived to do. I love it. It's my the work of my career and Today I'm really excited about What we're getting into? Well I especially thank that you are going to appreciate this interview that I did. With one of the Harvey Weinstein Accusers Lawrence Yvonne because she is is somewhat like one of us. She's a journalist. Yeah and how she ended up there. I mean to me. This whole scenario and story is bizarre. And and I think it's so revealing These interviews in how you know honest. They are sure and I spoke to. Yeah Yeah and she is really a great interview because she's a journalist and also vinnie. It was she added some levity to this particular interaction that she had with Harvey Weinstein which I can appreciate because it is very emotional for me to sit down with these accusers. It is just all the sympathy and all the empathy you have is women just comes out but so what's your what's your background. What did you? How'd you get into really interesting? Show always always want to be a journalist. I I think right out of college. She worked behind the scenes in Fox's producer but Hello she realized realized. Hey I am so stunning. No she didn't say that but I say that she is so stunning that The natural progression was to be in front of the camera and she made that what transition she learned The business the production part the reporting part and her first real job in front of the camera was act. Act a New York station in Long Island strong island. Yes Oh you sat down with her right. So Y- you're sitting down. And how did you prepare a pair for all of this. And and what. What's your attitude going into these interviews? It depends on the accusation right. How about this one? So for this accusation. I really just try. Try to watch as much on Lawrence Yvonne as I could under. I was prepared for what she was going to say. So I knew the story and I really. We also just wanted her timeline about how young she was when it happened. this occurred back in two thousand seven and I was able to almost just relax a little before speaking to Lauren. Because I knew she was not going to describe a violent assault so in this interview. We you again now for you listeners lauren describing how she met Harvey Weinstein. At that time I was working at news. Twelve Long Island. I had a serious boyfriend who I lived with in Manhattan and I would commute out to work every day and come back to the city at at night around that time when you met Harvey Weinstein and do you know approximately when you met him so it was about It was two thousand seven even if the fall or the winter of two thousand seven. I had just finished my shift on Long Island was driving back to Manhattan and I got a phone call from a girlfriend. It was like a Friday night I think ink and she said we're all down at chipper. Yanni's you should come. It's a fun group. You should come and I just got off work. It was Friday so it was later already. It was about probably eleven o'clock by the time I got back into town and I went and met her and she was there with Just be chip Ronnie and bunch of people. Aw and I just took the empty seat at the table. I sat down with them and two minutes later. Harvey Weinstein comes up next to me and says I think you're sitting in my seat. Lead and I knew he was obviously recognizable. I said Oh I'm so. Sorry and he goes. No no no you sit and he pulled up a chair next to me and we just started chatting and he. He was asking me what I did and it was really charming. In retrospect he was asked me what I did. He was asking me a million questions about my job. You so impressed that I work in news news. He was telling me about all these news documentaries. He's trying to produce and we had this really great chat where I really felt. Wow I'm holding my own with Harvey Weinstein. I was only about twenty six twenty seven at the time. What was your overall impression of him? His demeanor how did you come across charming. He came across as really interested in in what I was doing. But not in a creepy way. He was asking legitimate questions about news about where I came from. We're talking about presidential history. You know and which one which president by our fees we read and things like that and there was no red flags there was was not I mean he was nothing but really warm and sincere and he was telling me about his children. And that's why because there was no red flags that's why when he asked me if I wanted to tour more of the place we were in later that evening I said yes because dangerous. What was his connection to chip Brianti? Like why would he they were palace. Oh they were they were definitely POWs they. They were together quite a bit. As far as I know just by reading page six in New York I mean chip ran on Ian. Him would go on yachts together he would use the ATI would use chipper Yanni's hotels so they were pals. How many people are at this table where there are a lot of people there for this dinner? No maximum ten of us at this dinner but afterward because I got in there so late. They said we're all going to go to this club Socialista. So we all piled into Harvey Weinstein's Weinstein's car. That was waiting outside with driver. It was like a huge suv and we all went to Socialista and when we got there we continue talking. It was all on the up and up until he said. Hey I'm one of the investors here I want to give you a tour and my initial reaction was great because there was no reason to be alarmed at that point but I got up from the table and I told my girlfriend who had come to meet own. Just GonNa go check out the restaurant with Harvey and she looked at me and she said said if you're not back in ten minutes I'm going to come get you and I was like okay at that time when she said that. was there anybody else in that group that looked at you In in some way not that I remember anybody say anything to you in some way. No I mean you know it was a nightclub it was like wow people were just just like talking and corners and it was dark and it was just a girlfriend looking after her friend she just said. Hey if you're not back in ten minutes and coming to look for you. Was it a bit tongue in cheek. Cheetham she said it. I don't think so. I think she knew more than I did at that point because she had known. Just be for a while. And she had heard some things just Ed's told her about Harvey not that would rise to the level of do not go anywhere with him but just keep an eye on you so then what happened so he took me downstairs and soon as we got downstairs. I realized this was a bad idea because the kitchen was empty. There was just one guy sweeping sweeping up. It was dark and I said to him as soon as we got down there. Okay I've seen it. I'm good I'm going to back upstairs because no no no no. You haven't seen it all you haven't seen it all well and you know in in restaurant. Kitchens in New York City. They're really narrow. They're usually underground so he's walking me behind me through this hallway and when we get to the end of the hallway. It's just like a dead end is like a vestibule and that's when he you know cornered me and he leaned in and kissed me and I backed off and I said I'm I'm so sorry. I gave you the wrong impression. I I had no idea that this was this is what it was about. I just thought we were having a nice chat before he kissed you. Did he touch you at all. When you said he he yeah he may have touched my lower back or just to scoop me through the hallway? Maybe but it was again it was you you know once we were down in a dark place. I knew this was a bad idea and I knew that I wanted to get out of there. And when he kissed me it was it was it was. I was in my reaction with more angry at myself. Like I'm was so stupid to think that he was just happy having a chat with me or that he thought I I was someone smart and intelligent for conversation like obviously it occurred to me at that moment that led up to this so I was annoyed at that point. Were you scared. I don't remember member being physically scared. He was he's a big guy and he was blocking the exit. It was clear to me that he wasn't GonNa let me just walk away but I didn't didn't fear violence for some reason. I think I felt like he was so I think I felt like I'm small enough that I could like you know. Get Out of there. Needed to but part of me was angry at that I got myself down here. And when he told me after pulled away from him he said well can you just stand there and be quiet. That's when I was like what and I guess the reporter in me was like what's he gonNa do because that's never happened to me before at that point. Did you get scared. Yeah but then when I realized what he was about to do which was you know expose. It was himself and masturbate in front of me. I just was like this is disgusting and I just want to leave. I wasn't scared for some reason. It seemed like whatever wherever you are going to have to involve me. I just had to stand there for whatever reason. But it's a horrifying sight to be a woman by yourself standing when they're watching this go down and the whole time just thinking this is Harvey Weinstein. How many other women has he done this too? I just met him an hour ago so I knew new right then and there. I was not the only one you said you were about. What Twenty six twenty seven? Okay even at that young and that moment you thought to yourself how many any other women just because it seems so orchestrated. Oh I'm so stupid. He's chatting me up upstairs to get me downstairs to do whatever he wanted to do. He knew exactly how to get me down there quickly. How to warn me up he knew the place right? He knew where to go where there'll be a dark corner where no one would see him. No one would hear me so it just felt at that moment like I bet you he does this all the time because it was so nothing to him and he didn't seem alarmed at all when I was alarmed when I was like Whoa. I'm so sorry I didn't. I didn't mean to be here. I didn't mean to give you the wrong impression. He was just like ooh well. She's not going to cooperate if happening. We're GONNA take a break right now but we'll be back with more more story for more court. TV Watch it on cable over the Air Roku or go to court TV DOT COM And Stream live gavel to gavel coverage. Catch up on the big moments from our current cases and relive some of court. TV's most historic trials court. TV your front row seat to justice. We're back for more of seem as interview with television journalists and Harvey Harvey Weinstein Accuser Lawrence Yvonne. Here's the rest of her story about her encounter with the movie. Mogul a little warning though. This does get graphic. Okay so you said there was a moment where you knew what he was about to do. Yeah did he. Could you just describe what he did. And we'll league's looking and asked me to. He asked me to stand there and be quiet and I remember standing arms cross because I was like what. What's he you're GONNA do? And then he pulled out his penis and started vigorously masturbating facing you looking directly at me and so we're where were you looking. I was not looking at him. Yeah I was not looking at him I think I was looking past him or down but I remember thinking like think it's so gross. Didn't WanNa Watch and I kept hoping that this would not take a long time. How far was he from from you when he was doing? Oh like like where we're sitting right now so as close as we. Yeah two feet three feet and when he was masturbating in front of you did he touch you. No did he say anything. I mean he may have made some guttural noises when it was over to let me know that he was done because it was obvious to me that he had finished and I said can we go. Can I go now. How long did it take? I mean I want to say less than two minutes and were you in that narrow hallway that you described. Yeah so so. We're up against a wall or I know that there may have been a dorm back but I believe it was locked like I remember thinking. There's nothing else to see here like. Why are we in this hallway? And and then there was a what I believed to be a potted plant. It was dark but I think there was just like some table with some kind of pot on it and and I believe that's where he finished off in that moment. Turn away from you or was he still looking at you when he finished off. I don't I don't remember. Just remember knowing that he was definitely done any point during that you describe some of the feelings feelings but were there any other any fear anything else or or you said discuss you said pathetic. Yeah I think also just shock. I mean this was a guy who's this titan of Hollywood. Everybody knows who he is. It was I was kind of shocked that he was this brazen You know he this we we were in a restaurant. I mean his friends are sitting upstairs. It wasn't like he dragged me to a hotel or somewhere you know that he knew it was private. He knew that if he got me downstairs ears in this building that he would have a chance. And that's when I realize like this is the first time on that so you said Ah when he was finished you said can I go now. And he's he said Yes let's go. Let's go upstairs like nothing had happened. And he walked me upstairs ears and my girlfriend was coming down the stairs What I found out later was he had a guard at the door either? His driver or a security guard or whoever was with within a guard at the door. Who told my girlfriend cannot go down there? And she said my friend is down there alone with Harvey Weinstein. You're telling me I can't go down there. Are you going to explain. Lean that to the police and he let her down so she was coming down just as we got up and she said are you okay and I said we're leaving and I grabbed her arm. Then we ran out of there and I told her the whole story in the cab ride. Did you tell anybody else that night or later. I mean this was not something I kept a secret. I was so shocked that Harvey Weinstein is huge. Movie producer is restaurants all over New York City. Unlike pinning girls up against the wall to me as a report like that was a huge story. Did you think of pursuing this in journalistic way no for many many reasons number one. What's the evidence? He never touched me. There's no nothing on me I would go to the police and say someone in front of me. You know okay. I just want to put this out there. You know again. I'm former prosecutor defense or any as in that vein. I'm thinking you had your friend trying trying to go down to guard blocking the door. The Front of the guard have conversation. Finally the guard lesser through. She comes down the stairs. You're like we're getting eating out here. That is a statement that would come into evidence it will go into evidence but keep in mind. This was ten years ago. He was untouchable. I did not work for for him. I did not have to see him again. As far as I was concerned it was just one of those crazy things that happen in New York City. It was a story that I told everybody I knew about but the idea of going to the police with it. I didn't see how that would benefit me at all. You see what I'm saying like the fact that he was this huge famous guy was the shocking part to me But I never felt like I needed to. I never felt like I wanted some some kind of justice out of this. I was just stunned that that had happened did. Did you ever actually know anyone ever recommend to you to go to the authorities or anybody. No one no and keep in mind. I work with all the people news. No you told people always yes. I told everyone at my station. He called my station the next day. I was sitting in my office the next day. That was the weirdest portable this sitting in my office the next day. Because I'd mentioned I'd worked for news. Twelve long the island and I pick up my phone Harvey Weinstein online for you. He called our assignment desk and I was like I thought always calling to apologize. Obviously and she gets on the phone he said. I just wanted to call and tell you I had a wonderful evening and I said really and he goes. Yeah I would love to see you again. I think I made it clear last night that I'm really not interested in any kind of relationship with you ever serious boyfriend and I think that's the last time we'll be seeing each other something to that effect. I remember being like polite. But like what the hell and he said. Well I'm going to going away for a couple of weeks. I have to go to Hong Kong and Blah Blah Blah and Blah Blah Blah. But I'M GONNA I'll renew when I get back and see if you've changed your mind. And then that was the last. I heard of him from him. So okay so you didn't hear from after that no and I know after news twelve. Where did your career go from there? Her afternoons twelve. I got hired back at Fox. News Channel as Overnight Anchor reporting and for Shepard Smith Show and I was was covering breaking news on the overnights and I stayed there for about two and a half years until I'm yeah until I I moved out to La. Because I got a morning show job in L. A. and I've been in La for eight years when I moved to La. I would tell people this story. Worry and the reaction was always the same that's harvey that sounds like Harvey. No one was ever shocked. No one was ever like why. Why do you go to the police or why didn't you know one? That was never a reaction. I got from anyone so when I came out. That's why I was so shocked that everybody's like you. Didn't you kept this this quite I didn't keep it quiet. I told everybody this wasn't some dark secret. I had you know. Captain Sunk down. That was traumatizing me. I literally told everyone and anyone when when his name came up. Did it traumatize you. I mean the Act itself was not fun to witness. No woman wants to wants to be in that position but of course I was young at the time and it was a different different time and so I blame myself from most of it. I kept thinking. Like what signs did I give him that. I was interested knowing what you know. Now wow regarding the accusations against Harvey Weinstein. Do you still blame yourself. No no all right. We gotta take a break right now but up next. We'll have more of Lawrence Yvonne Story Follow Court. TV Live over the air uninterrupted. If you're watching television with an antenna just rescan your channels now to add court. TV AND GO TO COURT TV DOT COM to see the exact position and more ways to watch court TV in your area. Okay Folks Quick Nick Recap here. Lawrence encounter with Weinstein. It happened back in two thousand seven after that she moved to l. a. established her life there where where her Weinstein story was something that she would basically tell anyone who would listen especially when his name came up but the reaction she got was always. He's well that's just harvey then in twenty seventeen. Everything changed so learn. I just want to go through the timeline October. Fifth two thousand seventeen was when the New York Times expose came out and then I believe it was tober ninth just four days later were you. You were the first accuser to go on camera. I didn't even know that I didn't know it was the first accuser. Go on camera. What precipitated decision? So I saw the New York Times article and I thought to myself. Oh finally someone speaking of about this guy. I knew it I knew it all along. When was when was someone going to pipe up about him and I was so proud of those women that took a lot of risk talked the New York Times and I was so proud? Your Times published the story because for years you've been hearing hearing about him covering up stories about himself and smearing women that dared accuse him of anything. And so. This was like Hallelujah. Shortly the after that story came out his apology came out. If you've read that apology it's absolutely bonkers. I mean it's so absurd. We'll how so you feel part of that apology. which stands true? Today his statement has consistently been that he denies all all allegations of non consensual sexual encounters. When you are Harvey Weinstein and you run Hollywood and you are inviting writing young actresses to come meet you where they believe that this is the make or break moment of their career? I don't believe they are able to to give consent in that in that environment. There's just too big and abuse of power there. I've always felt that way and so when he came out and not only didn't apologize but said that these women were lying. That's when I really got angry and like I I said I had told so many people that story through the years that I was getting phone calls that night. Saying don't you have a Harvey Weinstein Story and one of those phone calls or messages came from. I'm a reporter named Charlie who who wanted to publish the story and I said I said okay. Don't use my name. I'll do it anonymously so I told them the whole story and he called me back two more times and said I think that the story will be much more powerful if you use your name because because you're not an actress never wanted anything from him he can't use. You know that scapegoat that you're just trying to get into a movie as as a journalist I think it'll be more powerful username and I spent that whole night. Contemplating in thinking about it and I was really on the fence about it because I didn't want don't want forever my name to be linked to this guy thought on the other hand you are journalists your journalist finding new evaluate new. I knew how much more powerful it could be if I lend my name to it and so I said yes. An article came out on that Friday and I thought good it'll be buried in the weekend and people forget about it by Monday. And that just wasn't the case I mean and when that article came out just got flooded with requests and one of the people that reached out to me was Megan Kelly. I knew her from Fox. I trusted her and so I agreed to do the today show and tell her my story. What was the aftermath for you after speaking on camera well? Initially all of these women came came out of the woodwork. To Talk to me and say the same thing happened to me at work. The same thing what happened to me when I was young or what I mean there were so many people with similar stories like this and then I began to get to know. All of these Weinstein victims that you'll remember started coming out of the woodwork. In droves I mean you couldn't even keep up with all the names that came out with stories. Currently my list is approximately eighty seven accusers. So Oh can you tell me. Approximately how many accusers you keep in touch with you. I think it's about Oh all of us. Keep in touch. We are all on an email thread. Maybe there's thirty or forty on that thread give or take the crazy thing is we. We range in age from someone in her late sixties. I think sixty eight sixty nine and twenty two years old so this was a three decade long. You Know Predator. I mean he was doing this forever. The reason that he continued to do it for so long was because he had all the power he had all cards. Women were terrified of him and when they weren't terrified when they were brave enough to come forward and try and do something about it he shut them down on. He called them crazy. He blacklisted them from Hollywood. He had Siamese out on them. Hiring Israeli intelligence forces He worked very very hard to keep all of these secret. So what happened with you in your career. What was happening at that point when you were you were at Fox? La An October twenty seventeen year the morning show anchor Fox la. I was a contributor beater on the morning. Show yeah I I was Fox. La When The New York Times story broke out. I remember in the newsroom and I jumped up and I said Oh my God had this is crazy. They're finally going to get Harvey Weinstein. And everybody's like Oh. Yeah Yeah we got that in the show we got that in the show I go no no I have my own Harvey Weinstein story right and literally. They were not interested. They're like now. We got ED covering it. You're fine before the New York Times article. Did you tell people at your station or wherever you're working at the time had you told. Oh okay so had anyone. Whether it's a news director or anyone senior director old like people that I work with. It was like when his name came up. I'd be like crazy. Harvey Weinstein Story Okay. So now after the New York Times expose your station knows that you have a Harvey Weinstein store. I told my immediate producer for the five pm news that night I was working on the five pm news and I told him he said. Oh yeah that's okay we have someone else on it and I was like like really what did you want to do. You think I thought I should cover the story at least because I had my own story. I knew they were right. He's sent out that apology. which which was crazy like? I wanted to cover the story but I also was trying to tell them. I have a little credibility to cover the story like they the impression when that story came out though I have to be honest honest especially in my newsroom. I don't know if this was the case. Everywhere was that it would be dead by the next week by next week. The story right right yeah. That's opposite it was the opposite. Yeah so what happened with you. So you are now we want your nose well and you're going on NBC. I called my director that night. She wasn't in for some reason that day and I remember calling her at night and emailing her and calling my agent he was like you can do this interview but just get get in in touch with Fox let them know and I was trying all day. No one called me back and I said I don't know what to do. I would either have to get on a plane to do this. I haven't heard back from Fox. They haven't returned any of my emails. What should I do and my agent told me go through the interview? It's Fox's fall like what are you going to do and so I did a bunch of interviews and again was calling my station the whole time telling them like. Do you want me to save this for you. Do you want me to come back. Do you want me to do no. We're good. We're good. They kept me off the air for about two weeks. They told me because they wanted to wait for it to to die down and then my agent called them and said what are you doing with her. You have one of the. Why aren't you putting her on the air and they said well? We didn't put any of O'Reilly's accusers on the air. So we don't WanNa seem biased if we put a Weinstein accuser accuser on the air. I don't think it's the same thing but okay fine so after two weeks. They put me back on the schedule. But I was not doing any of the jobs I was doing before. I was only on weekends shifts or undesirable shifts and covering the the de-block stories says he liked to call them. You know like a dog bite out in Santa Ana or something. It wasn't it wasn't the job that I had been doing for the last seven years. So you were covering less newsworthy stories. Less a serious stories. Yeah and then and then they just cut down my time and I can tell that my news director was clearly angry with me. I tried to meet with her several times but she she didn't until I just wasn't on the schedule anymore. They never said I was fire. They never said they just said. Oh we have enough freelancers. We're full this week. We're full this week. Take so I tried to get a job somewhere else. My agent had going on meetings and and it was tough because he would come back to to me and say things like well you make people nervous when they google you and all they see is accuser of Weinstein. They think to themselves lawsuit or this is going to be someone. I can't speak openly with. I mean there's still a lot of men that run a lot of companies that made me a sick that I didn't think I did anything wrong. I've never gone to. HR In my life. By the way I mean this wasn't a workplace scenario. It was just something that happened to me. Randomly did anyone at Fox ever admit that you were essentially taken off the schedule at some point because of your wine see connection. They didn't admit that they'd said that. I piss people off by talking to Megan Kelly before my own station but the truth was I tried even the the morning anchor Edwards. At the time he knew the story and he kept asking them. Why are we having more non? Why are we having all these people that we don't know interviewing we have Lawrence? He's right here. Why aren't we interviewing her? And he said he wasn't given an answer so I guess they didn't want to openly say say that they were punishing me for it. But that's what it was but it wasn't just them because I tried to work other places and I would hear from people like have you Google Yourself. It's all about Harvey Weinstein. I said Yeah I know. Unfortunately they're like well. You know people who who a large lawsuits and get money. It's just not a good time for us to be hiring people like that and I would say I'd never was a part of any class action I mean. I'm a journalist so I made sure that I it wasn't getting any money wasn't part of any class action wasn't looking for any money. I only wanted to just validate these other. Women's stories wasn't trying to gain off this at all. But because I guess lumped together with with everyone else that's all they see or hear what's been going on with your career sense because that was so you're saying 2017 the rest of twenty seventeen twenty eighteen gene. This continued I worked at a I got hired at KABC radio. And I did a talk show with Dr drew for about a year and I love that show that I had nothing to do with with Weinstein. Or anything like that I've just been trying to piece together. Freelance work since then. And I've gotten it. I'm stayed on my feet but it pains me to know that this will affect my employment opportunities because my name will forever be attached to this infinite up next the rest of my interview with Lawrence Yvonne. Oh for more court. TV Watch it on cable over the Air Roku or go to court TV DOT COM and streaming live gavel to gavel coverage. wjr catch up on the big moments from our current cases and relive some of court. TV's most historic trials court. TV your front row seat to justice. Today we'd be listening to seem as powerful interview with TV journalist and Weinstein Accuser Lawrence Savan. Here's here's the conclusion of their talk. Can you think of any way that that something can change that or you can change enjoyed. What has to happen for this to not affect your career going forward? The effect on my career is not my worst fear. It really isn't I mean. Figure it out you know. I'm I'm doing it right. Now is a shame that it had to happen. But you know when we see Harvey Weinstein Dining Out in New York City places. where he no he knows Paparazzi? We'll see him. When he's showing up at young actors studios the exact demographic he preyed upon on its reason arrogance that really angers me you know I know you're innocent until proven guilty? I know that but it just seems to be a bit much to be parading around town before his trial At the very same place where I was I was accosted at at Socialista which has reopened. I thought that was offensive. Do you regret going public Sometimes I do yeah I do but because I've seen so many changes since then. I think that you know the end was worth it. I first of all I met these wonderful women. I mean if nothing else harvey had great taste in women. Because they're all accomplished. I really genuine amazing human beings and we all help each other out. I mean to be a part of that network of women. Women is really a gift and I also love seeing changes. I mean my boyfriend. Today is an actor and he works on all the time and now they have an intimacy coach coach. Come in whenever there's nudity and scenes and I think Craig like if we could just make the place a little bit safer for women so that women don't have to feel terrified when they go to work work they don't have to feel terrified when they get a job or go to a job meeting that's going to be in some dudes hotel room like yeah that's changing and that that is a big big bonuses. Ernest the hotel room thing that has changed. Are there any other changes besides like you were saying about your boyfriend in the intimacy code. Well it's the it's the gray area that I I think we're all still dealing with right. I mean I think everybody kind of agreed and mass that you shouldn't be pulling your penis out during business meetings. That was a no. No no genitals should be out when you're meeting with perspective actresses. Don't don't wear a bathrobe for the meeting. That kind of thing we all realize was wrong but but it's those gray areas where we're women just kind of felt uncomfortable. Couldn't say anything you know. You want the job. So you're you're alone own an office where you're alone in a hotel room and you just feel unsafe I remember one executive said. Yeah now I have to meet everyone with the doors open in my in my office office. Thanks to you and I said Oh. I'm sorry I'm sorry that you're making women feel safer when they meet with you. I mean the it's it's kind of easy. Just don't treat women like you would any man hiring the job. Would you have a man come to see you and your bathrobe. It's it's so easy. The trial New York scheduled for January. Are you expected to testify as a witness from what you know from what I know. I'm not I did offer to the NYPD. I think because my story you know it happened over ten years ago but it's not going to be easy for anyone to watch this trial or just we're not even GONNA be able to watch it but to hear what's going on. Do you plan on attending thing. I mean sitting in the Audience Public Forum. No no I don't if the trial doesn't go the way we all hope we'll go that's the most terrifying part to me if he just gets away with it because he'll go back to doing what he's done done he'll probably find money. Start another production company. I mean he already is wheeling and dealing still. That's horrifying to me. Because does that mean there will be new victims for sure if Harvey Weinstein was sitting opposite you today. What would you say to him? It's hard for me to even I'd say what I would say to him. There's a lot of disgust and anger and And just I don't know I just I just I hate to say this because you know obviously not everything rises to the level of Harvey Weinstein and now in men are accused of things. People just want them to go away way they want the fire they want them to disappear and I think like there should be some road to redemption. Should be a way that you can come back. If you've proven that you've taken steps. To Oh combat your predatory predatory behavior but with him. Ideally I just want him to co way I I the fact that he's out and about New York acting like he's done nothing wrong and he'll be proven innocent is going to many of us. Weinstein is facing life in prison in your opinion. Does he deserve. Serve Life in prison with ninety accusers. Victims Yeah Yeah. He's ruined so many lives ruined. Lives think about you back in two thousand seven and the experience you went through and like you said for you. It was disgusting. It was pathetic. You were annoyed at it yourself all of that but now knowing what you know now knowing that you're on a group chat with thirty other accusers and so you've been exposed to almost eighty five other stories. Ninety stories has all of that made you angrier angrier. Oh Yeah Oh yeah I mean like. I said what he did to me. I didn't feel traumatized by and I didn't. I didn't feel the need to go to the police or anything like that. When I heard the other stories I realize what a real monster he was because look I'm it is a local reporter? We met randomly one night. I never had to see him again. But if I felt that my entire career rested upon pleasing this man and having to do something that I absolutely would never ever do except for the fact that I thought that was my only option. Just imagine how that can destroy. Destroy a person. I mean there were women women that have really promising careers in the business that were completely shut down after this either because they said no and they were blacklisted. Or because they said said yes and they were forever traumatized and haunted by by what happened to them of all the stories that you've heard all the accusers that you've met do you. You believe the accusations one hundred percent one hundred percent. I mean there's not a single story that say That doesn't sound like Hammer. This doesn't sound like him. I mean his grooming process was really the same for all of them. You're so talented. I see so much promise in you. You come over and read scripts with me. I just want to see you here. I just want to see you there. I need to talk to you privately because I want to mentor. You want I mean this went on with with all of the victims. Nearly and for me you know it was it was a quickie you is only fifteen minutes of grooming or maybe a half hour so chitchat but but yeah he had a pattern and he knew exactly what to say to make a woman feel comfortable initially in order to get them alone. Unbelievable believable as sitting here seem a great interview by the way and and listening to. I still can't believe that someone would do these things. Things don't understand. Do you want to say on behalf of all of us a court TV. We're really grateful. Any time someone sits down with US and talks to us about very disturbing and Painful memories and very personal. I mean some people it's difficult. It's difficult to talk about this stuff but We're really grateful awesome. I mean to me this gives I think everyone who's been following the Harvey Weinstein Weinstein case some insight. You know. Because we can't get the cameras and the microphones inside the courtroom but we can speak to some of the people who are making these accusations. All right folks For continuing coverage of everything we do on court. TV Day in and day out gavel to gavel coverage of the biggest trials around the nation including the Harvey Harvey Weinstein case. Please rescan your antenna. Scan for Heaven's sakes time to rescan please. Until everyone re he scans. I will continue to remind yourself everyone. Does it right now. I won't have to mention it again. And then he'll get some sleep at night because he stays up worrying about you re scanning people all right. We'll see you next time. Thank you this. PODCAST is a production of Kotei could court. TV DOT COM for more content content trials on demand and to find out how to watch court TV in your area
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Johnson remembered this architecture digest video vividly because it is my favourite house. They've ever shown you in the russian internet its popularity as the house and so the this hers the best house and david. Harper's is the best department. But in the video i was like i know she. She's like being jokey about it. I don't know why we're surprised that she's lying. She never says she likes to eat them. She is clearly making an aesthetic choice. But then when you revisit it it sounds like this. I love lines and love them. They're great. I love them so much and i like to present them like this in my house. Okay i like to present the table now. See the thing is like when somebody says. I love limes. You assume they love to eat them to consume them. That is not unusual. I'm not blaming the audience for assuming that dakota johnsons jobs lines now. In retrospect after hearing that it was set dressing and something she was seeing for the first time which is literally an absurd huge bowl of limes. The her tone is more. Like i guess. I love limes like here. They are like i. Will you know like i love lines. I love the way that they look like. She's being so dry that it comes out the other side but when you but then okay listen to the tone. There i love. I love him so much. I love lines and love them. Great i love them so much and i like to present them like this in my house. It's the same exact tone that she's jimmy. Fallon learns alvin. Now yeah in. My only allergic. It's the same. It's you cannot tell. Imagine being friends with this person. I mean i would love to be french this person but like you can never tell pulling your leg extremely. She's one of those people that would say something straight face and be like. No i was lying to you before. That was a joke. And you're like when you tell a joke you have to like you know your voi- have to hear it in your tone but uses the same tone no matter what like also who knows what she's like in person maybe this is just how she is when there's a camera interface. I do same woman. Who shows up to jimmy fallon in a row. So this is the funniest thing. I think he's ever to see. This is hilarious. This is the worst. Hi this is the first time why i believe the laughter is real. I don't believe anything he does. And i don't believe anything dakota johnson says. Yeah but she's finding ever. She is funny. She's good weird person from a weird family. Jesus what a weird girl. Okay so now. We know dakota johnson quote unquote lied about limes. We can move on to more breaking news. I mean there's no time for banter here travis. Barker and courtney kardashian are allegedly actually together. this time. There have been rumors that they were have been together for years because their neighbors and have like their kids have play dates. But they're always like we're just friends. Were just friends were just now. It's got the people source treatment. Which if you believe the onto armistead ring up then you have to believe this tube because it's the same source kind of confirmation. Which i know bobby doesn't but i do. I think i i do so. I think that this is something that a lot of people who've been following this knew that they were friends were always like oh who should get together like they both have kids. They're both like adults they. You're mean like show. Yes so strange. But in a compelling way and he seems strange in like a normal way and it seems like they should just like hook up and according to people they are. Yeah for quote a month or two. They dating for about a month or two there in palm springs together. They've been friends for a long time. But it's turned romantic. And then the insider keeps going. Travis has liked her for a while. Okay yeah okay. He's also like cam like finding a straight man who hasn't liked one of them. You know in two thousand nineteen. There was a thing whenever he was first. Removed to be dating gordon courtesy and i put the thing in the dock where it was like. It must be awkward. That he's friends. With courtney and seeing how he's he wants. Professed his attraction for kim kardashian. Yeah what a weird insider information like. That's weird it was weird. It was just like everything was the coverage of their friendship was like oh i hope. It's not awkward seeing as how. He said that he had a crush on kim in twenty fourteen or whatever it's like yeah big surprise. Kim's marriage malcolm nation. It's fine the he had a reality show with his family on e. right around when they cashiers. I had their reality show. So i bet there are some sort of like kinship there than they both live in the same like housing development or whatever. Yeah that's says like that's what he says When in the kim story when he's like yeah. I have a crush on kardashian. I once gave her reality tips because they've known each other for a long time he was like. Here's how you should behave on a reality show or whatever whatever. It's so boring so boring i kind of like it though. But it's it's the most interesting thing that's happened to court to any of the connections in a weiland terms of dating right like that's interesting. You know you might be right. Divorced adults with kids. Yeah we love longer lives in calabasas though he. They were neighbors for a while but he sold his house or is now just renting it out so i don't know where he lives now ex. Shanna moakler i do remember her disharmonious. Remember i do. She was an interesting personality. He's the ultimate music. He's a wonderful father. Good hopeless romantic shane. She's an incredible woman an awesome. She was miss usa. She's amazingly talented after his mother was. We're getting married and were starting our family. We don't look like your average couple 'cause into anything but average. Let's talk about lily. Reinhart and seventeen magazine who is impersonating the reinhard lindsay. Do you know is it. You've me nominee like actually. Did a release spent a lot of time confused about this like what happened here. The reason it's so confusing is like it's so low stakes. What the person who's doing the deceiving is doing is so dull that you're like i must be getting something wrong like this is an interesting you be like. I'm confused as to what the if it's low state. Okay wait hold on. We got say what happened before we start thinking about so seventeen magazine published a q. And a. with lily reinhart of riverdale fame. Willie reinhard giving interview about what was to happen on riverdell which i think came back recently. Maybe last night or the night before their new episode. And it's like particularly interesting because riverdale time jump in their show so like they're moving forward with the characters so it's like what's happened to the characters in the x years that will have passed between. Meanwhile the next season so this this seventeen cuna has now taken down from the internet. It has not been aggregated or by the way back machine you literally cannot find it but apparently it's like it basically confirms the betty our chief relationship or something like the bar chief fandom phantom and then there's the bug head fandom which is betty bug betty jug ed and betty archie right so there are these two kind of competing ish phantoms and i guess this interview. If i'm not wrong. I was honestly i was reading so many tweets about it. But it's like it confirms it makes it look like the relationship has quote unquote israel chance and has israel. And it's going to happen right so the tweet you put in the fan that says. I'm crying up. Archie impersonated lily. Reinhart and got published. Soppe soppe soppe question question question. Even the people who are saying that it's true are necessarily certain whether or not it's true because not many people saw the published in even see somebody quoted at quote. There's a very emotional scene. We are shooting in february and both k. J. are looking forward to working on it. So like there are the quotes that are like fake but that fans were tweeting. When this i originally dropped and then before disappeared wasn't up for very long because apparently the person who gave the interview was not lily. Reinhart at all so seventeen takes it down. They publish today. We briefly published a story with infrared led to believe from the ryan however it was brought to our attention that the person who contact us was in fact impersonator and had no connection to the riverdale star. Okay and then. She reports that statement in wrote for some bizarre reason. Somebody impersonated me with an interview with seventeen magazine. Nothing inappropriate with said but those were not my words. And i wanted to address it and it's so weird because she's right like it's bizarre in the way that it's not actually it. Nothing was said that was like that controversial on the front like on the on the face of it all but what we act itself is more bizarre than anything they said. Rate because what they said had more to do with plot points that probably are not accurate or something like so it feels even more likely that the impersonator was somebody from this fandom because they wanted to a make it believable even though it obviously it got caught quickly and put out there the information about the the relationship and the phantom or whatever confirmed the relationship. I it's weird. It's such a weird like what happened. I mean the only the thing. I think that it's the weirdest. Is that the only way this happens. And i mean. Correct me if you think i'm wrong. But the only way this happens is if lily reinhart reaches to seventeen directly. You don't accidentally email the wrong. like lily. at lily reinhart mail dot com. You know like this is coming from the person and seventeen believed it. It's not like seventeen sought someone out. I don't understand the situation. That wasn't the impersonator reaching up to seventeen saying. Hey wanna interview me which should have been the first red flag unless they also impersonated a publicist and lily show. Because it's like they're also people who think that it was real but then the phantoms got so mad that they took it down and this is like damaged covering that up. but it's never. It's never that complicated. it's always the easiest. Oh yeah because lewis. Lilly knows better than to ten than to reveal secrets like that. I think that lily's been doing this too long. To reveal things she shouldn't be revealing. You know but it really made people mad. I mean it mostly just confuses me how did they get reached out to in the first place and what was the red flag if that made them deleted. And you want to tell us what happened since nine new them six one nine. We don't it or we could play with your voice changed. I just really want to know from just somebody who's done a lot of interviews like this before what actually happened here with this interview was it. It had been over email. It had to have not been a phone call. That's or internet mean like how. I don't even know that that's true. You know like maybe it's somewhat lily. Remember like the real hard at. Go dot com email them and they were like guesses the really reinhard they've done interviews with her before so. I'm just like very talented lily. Reinhart the talented really reinhard. This is very strange who is impersonating lily. Reinhart and how did you do it. And i really do think that in order for this impersonation to have gone off without a hitch. They needed to impersonate to people. They needed to impersonate bassist and lily reinhart. Because why would the reiner be like high seventeen. It's me lilly interested in interview like that's immediately fake right middleman w or like somebody from the show. It's very weird and it had to have been all over email. I guess maybe not like it. Had you've been in taxed god maybe the impersonator diddly reinhard voice. I don't know what a lily reinhart sounds like. But there's a chance but it's like so much more saas that what happened. The reveal was just. Kim roman a language the jasmine solve interview kentucky mckim. Rav i the thing is is like that's even even that's even harder to do the voice or whatever. God i'm so confused as to what in what here and there really is. No one really knows what happened. The information is really not out there. So i hope that they follow up. Maybe they can write about it or something. That's interesting finally something. I'd read on seventeen magazine. I mean i feel like it's something that will be on the cut like what happened with the seventeen man. An a deep dive and investigation into what went wrong in seventeen magazine. Okay as it went up apparently and no one got screenshots of it. You can't even find the original. But i mean it just kind of crazy like what was the realization process of it all. It's like do you think that they put it up and then somehow reached out to the real lily or or like. How did that even or riverdale sought really quickly the p the pr people from dylan's at this isn't true or it's all very confusing but if you have any details let us know because it's like there's so many possibilities all we can do is speculate at this point but like you're right. The weirdest thing is that there are no screenshots of this anywhere. It's not cash it's not saved the fan. The riverdale fans would screenshot stuff immediately. And it's nowhere. It's like without seventeens official statement. I would be willing to believe that. This is the entire thing as fake. Like the entire. Like none of this ever happen. But it's just. There's not a lot of like clarification. Around what even happened. So it's like all we have are these tweets from fans who are even trying to explain to each other because even they don't even get what happened here. Which who do you think. You could successfully impersonate. Oh my which the question is. Which ship would i impersonate to defend to the death. You know young. which who could i. I don't know i could do. I could do a lot of them over email. Yeah for sure. No problem babe no problem lucy hale the real lucy hale jamal dot com on like. Yeah pretending i could do maggie jilin hall. Why would you could do her. What would you give an interview about just like any upcoming projects. My new house. I talked to architectural digest about my new house over email over. Email my new minute. My new apartment in wherever maggie legitimate hottest releases an instagram. That's like i don't know who that was but it wasn't me. I don't know why anyone would do that. And i know the challenge for the skill for the game for the record. I don't have a claw foot tub and my brand new brooklyn heights apartment. I don't know who says i did. But i do not have a new club but on you so hard for getting her aesthetic wrong. Because you'd would get at least a few details off to beyond to be fair about seventy five percent of what this impersonator said was spot on the rest of it. However under all fabricate desks and then we sort of landed on sharing desk we do have our own separate sections like. That's your section. And this is my section. These are all magnetic and i just hang up pictures and ideas and things that are inspiring me speaking of the biz. We'll do this pretty quickly because there isn't much to say but it is interesting in a way that hollywood light love a woman in business. Hollywood life who was started by bonnie fuller who is best known for her us. Weekly work by me. At least she kind of revitalize us weekly in two thousand and two she will. She launched it for winter and she was before that she was at marie. Claire and she was at cosmo in her osma. Us weekly is the sec. Today and she started hollywood life and then gave Sold it piece of it or whatever to penske media pm c. And now she says she's buying it back. Which is exciting all her. It's all citing bipolar hollywoodlife. Life has i feel like hollywood. Life is not my go-to go but it's pretty solid your like it. I like it. And i think it could be more dependable and i think she will make it. Maybe if she has full power make it more fun. I think that they're a. I think that they're just a dependable. A dependable site like it. It it. I think it does exactly what she wanted to which is to put the print tabloid aesthetic online. And i think a lot of places have tried to mimic that like E news has and Even the the tabloid official tablet websites star in touch. uk are like kind of clunky online hollywoodlife. Feels like i don't know it feels it's fun to read and it has that it has that prentiss that right and it's cheesy but i think with like her just as the helm and not like a media group behind it. She could really like run with a lot of weird stuff fun stuff and i'm like excited. I'm like oh. I'm going to start like really reading it now. I mean i it but like it's more like in an rss reader that i get sources and they get sources. It's just like one of the few and it's because of the bali. Bonnie fuller angle is just one of the few online only tabloid sites like that doesn't have a print we'll also so modeling tabloids are owned by legates switzer's kind of same place so it's nice to have an independent spot. You know like there are a lot of independents. I just mean like the biggies are all owned by the same company so they get the same information almost but if you if you clock out the places that are actually separate then it can be really nice to go there. Because you're getting some difference though. I think that humans have an innate desire to know the latest to have information. And i think it probably goes back to Means of survival like those who had the most information. Those were the people that survived. Okay moving on what's next. Oh god this is kind of actually. I love that i love this end. The more the more. I read about it the more interesting because aside it is no. I don't watch southern charm because it feels like such a mess and like i'm sure it was good at one point but if you're if i'm southern charm in two thousand and twenty one no that can't be me. I'm not doing that. I'm not watching it this year. And this person's fairly new to the cast to flick madison. Roy isn't even an og. Southern charm cheer bide mass and lacroix and Austin kroll were involved on the show and they have their own plotline with in that universe of southern charm again. I don't watch it. So i not interested in whatever but i. I was listening to our friend. Any pellegrino on his podcast talk about them because he watches the show and he was talking about their their relationship. Being very messy being very short lived a thing. And i was just like this is interesting. Because what's happening is these two are making a concerted effort to go after kris governor jay cutler. And here's the thing. I wouldn't fuck with kristin cavallari. No i wouldn't fuck with. I would do whatever. It took to be unchristian capillaries. Good hey sorry. it's very cavalieri. We think i always say cavalry as and calamari but it's not cavaliers calamari it's cavalier so it rhymes who screamed at me was it rhymes. I feel like it was jeff. It rhymes we got. It helps me. Remember how to say it but i guess okay. Here's the thing what happened here. Most recently most recently we have eight madison. Lacroix who was apparently dating jay cutler briefly jay cutler and kristen cavalry broke up or getting a divorce. Last year he came out as being like. I loved trauma like a year gusting. We'd we do not shut him out as being like. I don't care about the pandemic because she was going right all over town right going on dates right never in a mask masku part of this nashville microcosm of reality stars because the hollywood of the south is national now and apparently like no seriously like all like conservative. Kind of hollywood. He people are like. I'd rather move to nashville than hollywood. Don't ask it's like this whole thing. So they're part of that as well right now. J. in kristen and so she starts dating. This comedian named jeff or whatever. I don't really know anything about him. But apparently they're broken up now and he apparently gets involved with this southern charm person madison lacroix the because she just posted these tax measures of them messaging and it was kind of like him accusing her of leaking private information. Which if you date somebody from a reality show. They're probably going to leak your private information. Like clear kit in j you know will it it gets. It's it's weird because she was asked as someone again. I don't follow southern charm but like there were rumors that she was dating him before she drop these and late december early january well madison. You weren't scared to disinvite austin from his former party. So i have a feeling that you're not scared to diss him either. So i have questions about the end of your relationship. Tell me what is the last taxed that you sent boston. Wow when did you send that like earlier today recently. An almost two kind of killing the rumors or kill the momentum of the story. These two j in kristen drop a picture together and they say the world is ten. Years can't break that people thought they were literally getting back together which is like no clearly. What this image means is like if you're gonna spend rumors about us we're going to be aware of we're on the same team and we're going to kill you all talk against the line against the lying against the lying reality stars but like the what what happens like she was on watch what happens. Live the beginning of january the end of december and andy cohen. It's like so. I heard that you may be dating jay cutler okay. He asked her to respond to rumors that her ex. This guy austin kroll was hanging out with kristen. What did you think of austin hanging out with kristin cavallari did. Did you watch any of their adventures on instagram. I was having my own adventure. But i know. I did not and adventure of the jay cutler kind i am not kissing entailing so what. She came to town with her friend. Justin anderson and the four of us with craig. Conner had dinner kroll thirty-three told us while chatting about his popular instagram picks. We all been in contact ever since we're in this big group chat and the group is active. We had a blast with them. And i'm gonna take a trip to see them in nashville sometime soon. If you look at the texts that jay allegedly sent her. I think i was like what was he directly mad at or responding to because at what point in the text he says i respect you. She says i have nothing. But respect you and your privacy. I respect i respect your family and i would never say anything to jeopardize you and your family. And he goes didn't seem like that was the case. maybe it was accidental. I don't know no one wants this mess. I appreciate you saying this. So it's sort of like. I feel like what was j. mad at her about and i'm like was it. This was the hand for saying that. I think her text might be missing because someone pointed this out to me too he says. Do you want to hang out next weekend. No message back okay. Don't stress about it. I bought the flight yesterday because it was the last one. It doesn't work. We can change it. No response back. Oh she deleted her response. So i think she would deleted some of her responses on that end because he's talking it looks like he's talking to no one then the next tax come a lot later in their conversation. It's almost like she's proving that they that he wanted to hang out with her. But then saw you're also seeing kind of the downfall of that relationship or towards the end of or maybe more present time where he's like. Why are you leaking stuff about us hanging out. Why are you talking about hanging out. The thing that she says on watch what happens live essentially confirms that she's seeing him right. She says i don't kiss. She does a selfie with him and says too bad. It didn't work out like she knows what she's doing. Originally when i saw the kristen and j. stuff. I didn't know any of this context. I was like what is this. These two are freaks. I'm scared of them. No thank you but it turns out that it's a direct response to all of this. It's like oh these southern charm c. List reality stars think that they can come after us right absolutely. Not honestly. they're right they run. They can they can't. They can't absolutely cannot. I never heard of this madison legras person outside of straight headlines and i was just looking up like what sort of coverage does this woman get. The southern charm cast dishes on madison lacroix spreading an s. t. d. rumor so she spread a rumor that someone gave someone else. Claudia and then. I feel like this quote perfectly encapsulates. Madison lacroix based on what i know about her. It was an attack instead of discussing what was going on lacroix attacked with something that was just so not related. The committee stuff. She was throwing her boyfriend of the bus. She was doing everyone under the bus. So it was like this this woman she loves about us. She's constantly thrown under the bus. Just watch out your next to madison. Lacroix anna bus because in a few under the bus the bus. She knows the bus schedule and she will throw. You knows when the royals the schedule. That's what they say about her. She knows schedule madison lacroix. She knows the bus the bus schedule it was spoke. About it oregon. I deal in facts. Okay when no facts. What do you think you know about me about you. Nothing behind that. Yeah i heard you gave her committeea media realities non realities and just showing well. It's more just because like there's so much bachelor stuff you know like you could really like spend it ha- it can have its own podcast and it does so many people have and civilian and like actual people out right and so i think for our purposes we always say we we like to take the stuff out that feels genuinely surprising or goes into the real life zone and this one kind of does it's because they based a whole cova surprise season around these two who got engaged after meeting for like two minutes and then she left the show right. They advertised a season of the show because she was so in love with this guy sabotage. I mean it probably got more. I mean it probably gave a show more attention that had gotten years or whatever but yet she sabotaged the show. She left the show so she could like get engaged. This guy dale moss member. He was the one who modeled the all of the halloween costumes. Halloween costumes party city. Yeah he's the former football player. She's claire anything other than the former player. And she's she's claire. So now they're saying now these people have been in the real world for like you know a few months they've been dating for quote unquote four months there in what they were engaged. I don't know about engagement. Because they never really were on the show for that long And they're splitting up. They've broken up they both. They both released. These statements hers was on a pretty pink background And his is a clearly an instagram story. One he wrote. I wanted to share with you all that clarinet. Decided to go our separate ways blah blah blah and. Then she wrote. I was made aware of a mutual statement at the same time. You all were so. I've needed some. I need some time to so. I've so i've needed some time to really digest this speaking for myself. My intentions with this relationship has been clear the so the truth is i am crushed. This is not what. I was expecting blah blah. So it's weird that he wrote o- on behalf of clarinet. I were breaking up and then she wrote a history for like. I never spoke about like releasing a statement. Together like mime pissed. I'm sad I wanted to be says he just shows on instagram and says we're broken up. We came to the decision and then she's like hold the phone. We're what no one told me about this. We'll almost like almost like she knew they were having issues. And maybe going to break up. But she really wanted to work on it more and wasn't ready to announce that they were broken up. that's more. i'm seeing this verse. That's how i'm seeing a too. Yeah because i just don't. I don't believe it's hard for me to believe that. Reality stars of all people can be a little more perceptive. You know like they must know when the other shoe is going to drop right. You know like i. And they're also very good at mining drama where there may not be a lot of drama but this is good drama if it is even true that like this guy goes behind her back and releases a statement saying that they're like broken up and that they both come to this decision and she realized that they broke up based on it and he knows that he's going to be the villain and so he's like list. Release it with us that we both came to this agreement. And she's like nah sweetie like you. I am not the villain. You're the villain like we. Yeah you can't speak for me now. That the news of bachelorette couple clare crawley. Dale moss engagement is out there sharing with people. How they're settling into life after the show for a house here in sacramento with my mom being sick this. It's important to me to be here in. Dale understands that respects it. Didn't i mean they're not even a question we were talking about yesterday. And i'm like are you sure you like sacramento as were driving around. And he's like wherever you are wherever we are like. That's home that's what it is and it's not saying it's a permanent thing but for now that's what we wanted to do. There is never a rush to it and the thing about reality. stars is like if you're the type of person who wants to go on a reality star. There's a pretty good chance that you're very comfortable being the villain like you. Don't mind the threat of being a villain doesn't necessarily turn you off doing a thing. Well i think people think they wanna be the villain and then when they're the villain they're like i didn't sign up for this or like this isn't as fun as i thought it would be. I mean i don't know. I think there are some people who are fit to be the villain. Spencer pratt being one of them and they love it but like i do think that some people don't know what they're what they're signing up for. I guess what i mean. Is that like in the general population. There's x. percentage of people who think that they really be happy being the villain but in a reality show pool. That percentage is a higher. Like i feel like it's more likely to attract people who wanna be the walls of your like you know if you earn ego you a big ego personality break narcissist. If you little you love attention that yes you you'll take whatever attention you can get even if it's negative attention You know all press is good press but the point is is that if you read the tabloids you've you're reading that it there's a maybe a chance that he cheated on her so we have a mystery woman involved. You know we love mystery. Woman shares a name. Her name is eleanor through go. She was identified as the mystery. Woman that dale moss was spotted having dinner with at chip ronnie which this is the my walls through my favorite detail there having dinner at chip yanni first of all mid pandemic mind you. I don't even know inside outside. Who knows but it seems. Strict creatively outside yeah Having dinner chipper yanni and this sources say sources say that it definitely e. e. news had their people say definitely looked like a date. Dale looked really smiley and happy with her. They were laughing and flirting and then and then and then then however a source told page. Six through go was sitting at a table that night and is not one of the women picture next moss in the photo being circulated online. We're told the woman sitting directly next to crawl. His former. Fiancee is bottled brooks. No matter who is married to billy hair earlier in the day. Paparazzi captured photos of moss. Nader and rachel hilbert grabbing lunch in new york an attending a hugo boss event. It appears the group went for drinks at chip brianti. Downtown where moss happened to run into. Srecko quote you. Don't go to chipper yanni. If you're cheating a source said you go there to be seen. That's we know that's back to like. Oh he's at chip ronnie cheating. It's like no like you wouldn't go. You wouldn't take your like secret. Boo your mystery woman to chipper yanni because everybody is fucking. They're even fergie. Who took the train. All the way downtown. All the way from columbus circle the yanni wall street in the middle of a tropical storm taking subway because trump storm hit. New york had to get from columbus circle progress. She wall street rather white suit. Check out she's still went 'cause she wanted to be seen she wanted to be seen. We'll say like this like dislike kind of disney bitchy source snapping back with. You don't wanna be seen. I believe that i by that. I mean and it's a tone. It's an angry annoyed tone that suggests to me because this is page six reaching out to a realtor at prominent real real estate company. Douglas element. so it's like it doesn't seem unlikely that they could have directly called up throw so like she could have just been getting in my mind and in new york. The person saying you don't go to cheating you. Go to be seen is rubio like that's how i'm picturing it. Why because snippy tone. I love that like this. This also could have caused them to break up like it doesn't have to be like he's cheating it just like who are all these women you're having lunch with and like meeting at chip ronnie and like what is going on here so it didn't even have to be these doesn't have to be ellinora. It can just be an amalgamation of all these like bad things. And clair's like i'm over it. You know so that can be what it is to yes well. He's the one who wanted to be over it but right over because he has worth soon as the ones who i and. They didn't really have the conversation that it was over because her it makes. It seem like. I really want us to try. Couples counseling or whatever. And he's like fuck you. I'm going to chip brioni. There's so many women there. Do you chip at chip ronnie downtown. I rented a burgh. Bobby of had these. 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Get ten percent off plus free shipping trust and wealth dot com slash trust and we'll dot com slash. Oh salt pepper. Here's the thing salt. Pepper them individually. Do we think they're who's yes. I don't think cheryl jails and sandra. Yeah because i don't think anyone. I don't think everyone's like yeah. I know who saw i could name salt. I can name pepper but we know salt and salt and pepper. The band the question. Is this spinderella. Who were them within the band. She's of them. But i think kind of outside a who they kinda. Who did the job of luoyang her. So spinderella what are we talking about some pepe because they just had their lifetime. Lifetime picks a big deal in twenty twenty one. The wendy williams biopic on lifetime premieres on the third of january. Whether the movie is good or bad you still get that bump of kind of attention. When the bio-pic comes to get the most out of life you got to push for it push away fair push away boundary. Push yourself and push each other no matter what might those way. Just keep pushing like we did so the movie event premier saturday a day. It's on lifetime. I didn't want i only watched a little bit of it. It was it was okay. I wouldn't say it was like incredible. I don't think any of these movies are incredible. But not now the wendy williams one might be might be like art but you know and also you never forget that south sound pepe art in them. They're they're involved in the making of the movie so it's always they're always the in so as wendy so you have a little bit of that there where you have to remember that it's like they're involved they're doing attended press does move. You got a ton of press. It got they were on today show they. Were on the breakfast. Slow on talk shows just like salt and pepper everywhere. You know who's not everywhere talking to the talk shows spinderella. Who is again. Her name is deidra roper. So after the movie premieres and there's no way spinderella didn't know this was happening. She saved movie. It's not like she's not in the movie these headlines make it seem like spinderella is an in. The movie and character is actually part of the story bought. She was not part of the creative team ak she was given a cut of the proceeds. She wasn't given any sort of control active producer credit or anything like that. So it's like the tmz headlines all of them are like the tmz headlines which spinderella trashes salt-and-pepper bio-pic. You wrongfully excluded me. I was like are they just cutting her out of the. It's like i thought i was like that's i was like. How can you do that because know that they're are out right right but no she's just not in it so she waited until the movie came out to release like a twitter thread where she says it begins with sorry but i speak on the lifetime special which is too crazy. I have to say because she's giving the movie press if she's trying to disparage the movie you're doing the opposite like any press is good press. I didn't know the movie was coming out. Now until i saw those the headlines that were like spinderella claps back at the salt and pepper. Lifetime movie i was like oh the movies coming out but also she wouldn't have gotten this much attention. Had it not been tied to the movie. You know like i think she it was the right time to do it. But it's also going to give the movie higher ratings like us in in result of it but she says sorry but i got to speak on this lifetime special too often black woman who have made meaningful contributions in their industry left out of historical narratives back when salt and pepper was building. Our legacy the our. They're our legacy which is rooted in empowering women. I could not have dreamed that this same group would one day. Disempower me where. It's not fully express my disappointment when i learned the decision was made if your main message is empowering women in your music speaks to that it is kind of contradictory and actually works more harder against you to treat a woman in your band like this whether or not. She's a founding member whether or not she you know whatever the reason is it. kind of. That's hypocritical that's what that's what the most glaring at of all this is to me. And that sorta argument is and she makes it clear. She's like this is a problem. I i feel like. I'm a woman being silenced by another woman. That's what i mad at. And she's like. I'm not mad at monique. Paul who's the actor. Plays donovan a who has only been in like two things but play spinderella in the movie. But she's great knit. I just wish. I could have shared perspective with her. Like i wish. I would have had a little bit of creative input in a story but i was not given the opportunity to have input and this in case you forgot which i forgot. Spinderella was a member of salt and pepper until two years ago. Like from one thousand nine hundred seven to two thousand nineteen. He had their fallout. That followed that. We do not really know many details over. She was fired like every report is that she was terminated from the band. She was asked to leave but after that happened. We never got a reason. Why and then at one point she sued salt and pepper for wrongful termination or some sort of thing and they settled out of court so like all of this stuff is gray area. We don't really know what happened between these three people but we do know that salt and pepper are like still joined in the hip. Just like your salt'n'pepa canisters in your kitchen like they're not separating anytime soon mine are joined at the head the are next to each other but they're not like connected well. They're not like those hugging one. The hugging ones but they're you know they go hand in hand. Go hand in hand. I have assault. I got a someone gave me a free pair of. But it's a it's a pepper grinder and assault grinder. And i'm like what am i going to do with. I hate assault grinder. It's so i just want to shape the salt. I spring with salt my fingers. And it's this. You have to put a special salt in the grinder to make it work. And i'm just like this sucks anyway. I'm but then but they look good as a pair you know you don't want separate salt and pepper just like this song grinder all goo-good pepper grinders game changer. So oh my god but so salt pepper. Go on tour. They're getting a lot of press. They're they're doing great Are not like who's they're not like a. They're vintage their job but they're not like well i haven't heard from there around and so they go on breakfast club and they say this cost fifty thousand dollars every time. Say that name so really really alloy lawsuit is has been been settled it. Actually that sent. It got sent to mediation and we in been done. The spinderella thing. I'm going to try to keep a real short. What people. I don't know if they realized i think when you see the movie is first of all song. Pepe were friends. We had a male. Dj right i we had the first spinderella and then we did the whole Happening vicious in herbie run in this. Been morella at that point. We were already established as salt'n'pepa we will already established as company together. We are partners always have been partners. Spinderella wasn't addition to what we had already created listening to that even the way that she starts it with like. I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. But then it's like hondas while you're movie on lifetime is getting any attention so like you better spend time on it because like this is the drama that like you created. But it's like selling the movie. So i don't know i just i'm very like okay. Prosper this type of shit. She says that by the time spinderella came in. She was like we were already solved pepper like she was not really involved in the formation of this group around is a character that catholics. Dj they called spinderella. There was a different spinderella. She was spinderella very much like on a tv show where they replaced the actor with the same. Who that's happened a few area becky from roseanne. You not from roseanne. This but this spinderella is was the second and final spinderella like she. She had that quote unquote role which she then is now is made her identity for many many many many years up until you fired her in two thousand nineteen or whatever. Yeah salt does say that. She reached out to her. She says that she reached other shows. I reached out to her. But i haven't gotten anything back on read. Read the re the tablets calling your riva. Tabloids girl read the tabloids. She's there but we don't really know what happened. But i feel like this has been the case for the past years. But we don't really know the nitty gritty. But i know that's interesting anyways What's next on this hellish list today. So the daily mail. This is an entirely daily mail joint. This all comes from them This is not to say that. And i don't i'm gonna say this not to say that. We know a lot of celebrity rumors in advance. So we don't talk about. But i feel like if this sort of thing called about you know if this were real in a way like we would have been like. Have you heard the rumors that jank rakowski dating my pillow guy like those. Those weren't even rumblings in our realm. That's not say rumblings in other rooms like every the west village and that people quote unquote neighbors in the west village. We're seeing these people out and about this open secret. Walking around smooching are doing whatever and that to me is. What's so confusing. Because it's like it's like oh everyone knew what people knew that my pillow ceo. This asshole was dating jane creek. Hausky mypillow. ceo. That's the thing is. I hate this. We have to explain who he is. He's a big financial trump backer. He's the guy who dumbo alot. Yeah it's it's just like a stupid. I don't want to talk about this guy. Ami he's a he's a heap. He founded this company. That has the the the my pillow. They're basically the only advertiser on fox news. He's a big republican donor. He's made so much fucking money. He's worth like hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars He loves donald trump. And he's just kind of sleazy guy. Okay so that's who he is. That's all you need to know very out spoken conservative man which is weird considering that jane creek ski who while i guess she doesn't have like a loud and proud political affiliation is like kind of k. gay icon and like you think of her as like the hollywood elite a way. You're like the liberal hollywood elite that sort of what you would see if you me for trump would. I'd be surprised. Probably not but would she be dating such an out and proud trump supporter. That's shocking and that's what this is saying. So it's exclusive trump loving my pillow ceo. Mike lindell had secret romance with thirty rock actress. Jankowski and wooed her with flowers and champagne in relationship that baffled all caps for france. It's a very gentle maroney subplot. You know this. Is jim. Marone behavior that i'm saying it's like people were laughing at this because they were like. This is like not. Jane we actually considering. Of course considering it you know have always reminded myself of grace kelly. I'm not gonna be gorgeous forever. Who knows how long this show will last. And i have no other skills whatsoever. I need to find someone who can take care of me. I think gerhard can take care of you. And i can pass. Someone's looks since when i'm an actress. Liz it would be my greatest role of all time. You've already made up your mind about this. You're right liz. I should go for it. Not even listening. Are you poop monkey. But no you're a good friend. I do think though that jane creek hausky is another one of those. And i think this is the curse of the comedian where it's like. The comedian persona is one thing and the real life persona is a completely different thing. He's not actually people thing which is fine which is completely fine. I just think. And i think that's usually the case with celebrities but when it's one thing whenever your character is completely absurd and over the top and you're like absolutely not that i think that's what jink rakowski is. So that's another reason. Why what she does but a lot of what. Jean a lot of what you love about. Jankowski is tina phase. Writing is for her is what you're experiencing of course. There's like a dissonance there. So i know a ton about jane outside of her work either like we don't really see her as a personality side for what she's selling tropicana know exactly and she's doing to sell you. Cheese selling tropicana as gemini as only yet true happy new year. High chain trump fifty. Everyone here's to a new look in the new year. Do you think wow fantastic. They had to scrape off the layers. Look amazing wait. Not on me on the apartment. You actually thought. I had worked on you. Just look so great. You actually thought i had work. Trump fifty vitamin enhanced juice beverage fifty percent less sugar and calories than the leading orange genes. The bullets here are basically conic daily mobile. It's and they're so good at just doing the explaining up article jovan and basically the bullets are telling you that everyone in the west village knew this was happening. They had been seeing them. How around for months. He wooed her he would her or she resisted she resisted she resisted until finally she was like she succumbed to his pillows and roses and was like Let's have a little romance. They had a weekend together at a hamptons beach house. And i love the detail that was rented which is so funny but then the last two bullets are so good and we will be no doubt talking about these at the whom he's win. Approach by daily mail dot com creek. Hausky denied even knowing lindell and said only. I've never met the man. Lynn said colon quote. I have never even heard of jane creek hausky question mark question mark question mark which suggests this was done over email or text. I requested sorry. According to one former friend gene was a huge fan of obama and her viewpoint by nature of her business and the broadway audience that she plays to and calls. Her boys certainly speaks democratic just like she has gave fans she must be a democrat. Jane was a huge fan of obama and certain her business certainly speaks democratic. Is that if anything that suggests that. She's a republican. Like it's weird because i was using to say any so the weird thing about this is that they're saying not only are they saying this isn't true now. The my pillow is threatening to sue them. And i think that's important. I mean it just just happened but like it's really easy to threaten to sue. It's a different story. Actually sue and i feel like if he doesn't actually soothe them then. This is true. And i feel like the threatening to sue and apparently he got he a lawyer. That is famous for these kind of libel suits. Just don't think the daily mail. I don't think so time again and again wouldn't have some. They had to have had their their row. They had to have their pillows in a row. They were going to live in a row. Yeah that's what. I'm saying like weird. 'cause obviously the story is so absurd. It's like the perfect there. Plenty of stories like this that we talked about like a few times a year. Where it just like the the pairing so unexpected that you can't help be fascinated even if alone you don't care about these people so it's like all these places page. Six business insider daily beast. They're all reaching out to them via text and email because apparently these people and they're all getting good statements. They're giving the good to the good stuff so jane releases now you can tell she she got a writer on this one. Jane has never met mister lindell. She is not and has never been in any relationship with him romantic or otherwise she is. however in full-fledged fantasy relationships brad pitt reggae on page and kermit the frog and welcomes any all coverage on those like. Hey who's the writer on that one and here is also important that we pasted in page six new about this so page six heard the rumors in november and they s- they held it. They slept on. I guess they didn't have enough. Hey six i heard rumblings about the relationship back in november but at that time a friend of the actress told us. I don't know where the silly rumor came from but it was circulating while back and went away and now it's back again. I don't get it so they had a source that said like this kind of just one person or this is ridiculous. This is clearly not happening but she says a while back which leads me to believe that the while back refers to the summer so i guess when they were allegedly in the hamptons if they were in the hamptons. That's when the rumor actually got started. We keep saying the west village the west village. But it's like if they were in the hamptons with the hamptons. People would be the one seeing them. I don't know my favorite statement. My favorite statement came from business insider so business insider reaches out to my pillow guy over text message which was konak and he writes back. I have this is a quote. I've never been to the hamp to that. Hamptons that hamptons never been to that hamptons village ever also. I don't even know who this lady was standing by the fact that he is a no. I don't know who this lady was the earnest. I don't know her. Is jim kresge. Who were them. We've done this before. But that's what i'm saying. She's kind of on the line. I think she's a who i think she said. Oh really yeah. I think my pillow guys honestly more of them than jane perkowski really well. Because he's been he's been in the. Here's my conversation for this year. My reason why she's a who why. How many times have you said jenin instead of jankowski. Well they're the same person to me. Even though even though she's had many many many roles this is not like it's not like it's jane kirk skis only role but has that iconic of a character. And he's very much her. It's kind of like tracy morgan tracy. Yeah to me one of the same day. Even tina phase is. Is liz lemon like it's not. I mean that's how that's how thirty rock was. That's how good thirty rock was. I feel like tina's more lives than tracy tracy and jenna is. Jane would but. I wouldn't mix up tina with liz but i would maybe say gentlemen and instead of jane house and i would say tracy jordan's tracy morgan bags. If you're really going to do this you better get a move on right now. There are models waking up from their coke benches multi-ethnic bartenders with daddy issues. Former ballerinas. Who had to quit because their boobs got too big. They're going to hear about the horny billionaire. And that's gonna forget all about his little crush they're coming lis- that's their stilettos versus every once in a while when there's a really hyped up episode of versus which is the which is now an apple music show but it was originally independent. That's it might be back to being independent. I don't know the point is. This is a weird one and also but of course he co versus. A shanty is relevant to us. Because i feel like this is in our wheelhouse. I would say so. I was really excited for kisha coal versus the. I'm like how ashanti not going to win this one. There's really no. And then they and then they then they push back may push back. Push pushback ace illustrate because shanti as you know. Because we know. Because we covered this went to fucking kenya with with demi rose daily daily mail fain the demi that no one knows not demi lovato and not to me more not demi burnett demi rose the one that literally. No one knows who's always in the daily mail who literally her job as she wears a bikini. That's it literally went to kenya with. People and ashanti was there right and so shaun d gets back and his like oops. I have covert out. I get it. And it's like around the world with people from all over the world right bubble. The bubble has she's like i have a bubble but her bubble is an atmosphere. It's like a sean. Come on right so so as to the the whatever. The whole production of everything gets canceled gets pushed back twice finally last night or two nights ago. It's the funniest thing is when they pushed it the one time that they push and they pushed it to the day after the inauguration and that was so funny and then it got pushed again it was it was gonna air. It was airing last night. It's going happen. I go to my app. i'm like let's let me see what's going on with this versus. I open it and we have what i view in this show. Bobby you have ashanti on top in a silver throne. She's flanked by sarah candles and three d. Dorito nacho cheese and looks amazing. I would eat those doritos now. I need those datas. He was below her. We have a top and a bottom a kisha coal davey blue thrown with flanked by ceramic and cool ranch doritos. The throne is empty is sitting there. And guess what who didn't get the queen treatment for the throne. She didn't get three d. Britos she only got regular doritos. Make three d. Cool ranch doritos yet. I don't know if we are to say that they could have made a special bag for we are. I know ashanti asked for three d. Cool ranch doritos. Ashanti would have gotten three torito's and shanti. Can you hear me. I can hear you mommy. That's it that's that's it. Finally here. I don't know who's all attending because at this point we just we running way to behind. You look beautiful. Beautiful absolutely amazing. You look absolutely america. Ashanti up just a little bit please. So what's going on. How about get this thing started is the seat is empty. And i'm like where's kisha and a just like vamping. She's just like talking chad. And i'm like where the fuck is kiesha. Call i leave. I kind of forget to go back. She's thereby biden. Really think about it anyways it comes out later that show that kisha cole was an hour late to the verses over an hour over an hour where late because she wasn't happy with like the quality of herself it was very vintage versus which i knew it was very very messy. It was very much like the equipment wasn't working and she said. I want to apologize for not sitting in that seat. Okay because i was there. And i should have set down. I should have just sat in the seat. No matter if i felt like you know the visual wasn't clear or you know i'd say my music was going to be right or whatever it was. You know what i'm saying. I think that more sunday anything. You wanted me to sit be president. He threatened or knowing that she was just in the wings she was there. She just wasn't in the chair. She said you know they got to fix the internet connection. Because you know you're going to be another situation like teddy riley. Oh my god teddy. Riley one hearst versus. I think the picture looks fine. I'm actually quite confused. I also am confuses to when we went from going from having them in the same room like brandy and monica tobacco. These like separate rooms like what is verses like go independent again. Like i'm just confused. It's really it's really weird. What's happening with versus. But this is true versus lake vs supposed to be sort of chaos in every episode bills to be a little different chaos. Yes it's supposed to be pure chaos. The empty throne is absolutely iconic. It's it's great ashanti just on top being like i'm gonna win this. You know i'm going to win this. I can play every single. J. lo hit out there. That's all me. That's all my voice. Nick somebody get asked if i have plans. I'm going to be like. Oh sorry. I have plants. Oh yeah what are your plans. I'm sitting at beating three doritos and lady gaga oreos on the couch. Those are my plans. Those plans love. Where do i get these. Three to read. As i want them so badly because while i love lady gaga orioles. This is what i'm more interested in actually concert. Exactly three torito's are also easier going to be easier to find than a specialty cookie. I love those. I love the shape. I love when they came in a little like round canister thing and you just like they were tiny a texture. I gotta find look today. What's next here rita rita. What was she wearing. Where was she seen she posted. Why aren't she's a who clean phone the town. What's rita ora up to. Who is this woman redoing. Discount when you win. Lindsay sent me this. I like one of throw up. When was this a few days ago when you sent me this. Sometimes i miss rita stories. I know we shouldn't be on top of this. But sometimes i miss them but when i see them i always click because i don't wanna miss them and this one was truly. I'm so happy i click. She posted this clearly spawned but she posted impression kit milk and honey london and i guess it's like some tooth spawned that she was doing you know but she posted the clay impressions that you did it for own teeth. And for some reason they're like the color of like peach and tangerine kind of mixed together like a tie dye their hair but broke stink. Like the color is cool but it's disgusting to have posted this. Sorry it's gross. I got a full body shiver from these teeth. It's very like forensic files. you know. Lay molds like i get that like. She's doing spun. But i'm also like what are you doing. What does she do. What is she going to do with milk. And honey kit. What does that don't know. I didn't even look up with milk. And honey was which i guess is my own mistake. Maybe like straighten your teeth. Or whatever i don't now you know what it's for for making like wheels and gold and they may cuss them. They make custom tooth stuff. And so you you send in a mold. And then they'll make like a little ring or i learned your t s and it's custom made for your teeth rita's one readers worn teeth. Jewelery that's sets tracks for her. Okay interesting she also cut us a striking figure in a quirky ruffled puff ball gown as she posed backstage at the massingir. Uk okay. she's okay. She's always cutting a striking figure so this isn't necessarily news you know but the big news of the week comes from the sun or is has a comeback single. That's on its way out. I think they looked up. The are the records of the song. Yeah i think they looked at because they said. Oh it's by. Dan smith from steel and m any k. Songwriting popstars and actually has some songs of his own written for a ton of people. So it it's a big. This is big news that she's getting a fancy schmancy songwriting team to read her comeback single. But the problem is it's called flame. There's already a flame. Rita it's literally called flame so either this flame is going to flame out or it's going to be the new flame friday we're gonna have to alternate frame flame fridays. We haven't celebrated flame friday in a while but we could use a new flame if we have to flame fridays. We won't get burned out on a single flame. How's that how's that we won't get burnt out on a single. We can alternate between tanatshai flame friday and or friday so apparently flame is set to feature in twist which apparently is actually coming out in four days three days. If you're hearing this tomorrow what you are january. Twenty ninth on sky. It's getting trash reviews so far. There's only one review so far published on the telegraph and is a one out of five. It's twist is a dickensian disaster. What did michael cain do to deserve. This goes onto. Say martineau incentive. Tation of oliver twist is a baffling fudge in which no one knows what they're up to and the dialogue is unspeakable so i was like control f or a and we have this paragraph. I don't know where to begin with. Rita ora costumes. But her reactions. In the thick of breathless pursuit are quite something quote relaxed man. The cops packed way. Back is the first thing we hear. Say quote he left. The old bill for dust comes later one minute. She's in a flat. Leather aviator hat. Then it's a tidy winter coat and triangular shades. They thought this they thought throw specific. Look for each time. She overact running around a corner. You could throw her clothes in one big pile and called an urban outfitters sample sale. It's like why are you being so mean about her being mean also like it's rita ora. Of course they're going to dress her up. She isn't a good actress idea. What rita ora is famous for. Come on god. Wanted to join the club. But i mean i was gonna say who knows like we barely know. But but it's still disrespectful. I mean i can't wait to watch twist. yeah here. I mean. I'm not surprised. It's it's not good. But i do think it'll be good in a at least a three star way. Not a one star way. I'll get a lot of enjoyment out of seeing you know jude law son and rita ora. Interact raff raff. Who do because the better movie this year. Raff laws twist or laws the nest. The nest is amazing. Code twist more than the nest. We're not gonna link twist more than than okay so thanks for listening to other episode of who weekly. We're done call at six one nine who them to leave questions comments and concerns What else can you do. Rate reveals on apple podcasts. Love us support us on. Patriot dot com slash weekly for twice weekly bonus episodes. Thanks katie and eric of the. Who's for our rita ora theme song couldn't do it without them and we'll see you on friday with another who's there by you. Will they wanna know fame it.