35 Burst results for "Chicago."
Mark Levin
Stephen A. Smith: When Will We Look at Ourselves?
"At black Americans. Thanks That's not where I'm going. What I'm saying is, where's the due diligence when it comes to to putting a spotlight on what we're doing to each other because this is pissing me off. 53 lives 53 in one weekend. It's not It's been happening year after year after year, Chicago, St. Louis, Baltimore, the list goes on and on. Where's the noise at? Where's the protests? Where's mainstream media talking about that? Where is it? That's what I want to know. Because let me tell you something. Nothing else matters if we're dead. We're killing each other. Well, it's something we've been saying here, but if you're on ESPN and honestly, black Americans. And this guy's guts, he's got courage. Again, you don't have to agree with him, but he says what he believes in. He's right. 100 % right. I've been there needs to be more leadership in every community, but especially the black community that's facing this down. Because this is the great civil
AP News Radio
Beeks escapes bases-loaded jam, Lowe, Siri hit homers as Rays beat Cubs 4-3
"Jose ciri and Brandon Lao each had two run homers as the raised defeated the cubs four to three Laos round tripper helped Tampa Bay avoid a sweep. It's hard to take any win for granted. Honestly, at this point, everyone's big win and coming off to lackluster games. It's a huge step in the right directions for us to go into this off day. The rays manages 5 runs in the three game set, but on this day they got the big hits when needed and their bullpen had three scoreless innings. David Schuster, Chicago.
AP News Radio
On this week's AP Religion Minute, the archbishop of Chicago wants more information from the Illinois attorney general about newly uncovered cases of abuse.
"This week's AP religion roundup. The archbishop of Chicago wants more information from the Illinois attorney general about newly uncovered cases of abuse. In an interview with The Associated Press, archbishop blaze sewage urged the attorney general to provide information about 125 newly uncovered cases of priests, who sexually abused minors. It really does highlight the terrible tragedy that took place in so many lives by priest who acted to responsibly, but also leaders in the church who did not respond appropriately. Cardinal sewage says he would gladly include the cases on his list of credibly accused clergy if the claims were substantiated. In his first interview, since the report was released, the cardinal expressed surprise that the report contained names he had never heard of. We are genuinely perplexed by the use of the word undisclosed reports because as far as we know and we verified this also with the state's attorney, we have gone ahead and been very careful about making sure that any accusation any allegation of sexual abuse of someone in the church has been reported to the state's attorneys. The nearly 700 page report said investigators found that more than 450 Catholic clergy and Illinois 6 diocese had sexually abused nearly 2000 children since 1950. It depicted the problem as far worse than the hierarchy had acknowledged in 2018 at the start of the state's review. The newly revealed cases wouldn't necessarily have been handled by the archdiocese, but rather the religious orders were the pre served. During the 5 years, we have constantly asked the attorney general. If you come across any accusations that have been substantiated, that we don't have who are religious orders or others, please tell us, and we will look into it and do it. So we were surprised by the new names on there. We thought we had that kind of relationship with the attorney general. And so our disappointed that we're hearing these for the first time. Super acknowledged that the report laid barrow problem in the way the Catholic Church has handled abuse cases. Religious orders such as the Jesuits franciscans and Maris often escaped scrutiny since they keep personnel files on their priests, not the diocese and leadership. I'm Walter ratliff.
AP News Radio
AP Religion Roundup interview on a Chicago church abuse investigation
"This week's AP religion roundup. The archbishop of Chicago wants more information from the Illinois attorney general about newly uncovered cases of abuse. In an interview with The Associated Press, archbishop blaze sewage urged the attorney general to provide information about 125 newly uncovered cases of priests, who sexually abused minors. It really does highlight the terrible tragedy that took place in so many lives by priest who acted to responsibly, but also leaders in the church who did not respond appropriately. Cardinal sewage says he would gladly include the cases on his list of credibly accused clergy if the claims were substantiated. In his first interview, since the report was released, the cardinal expressed surprise that the report contained names he had never heard of. We are genuinely perplexed by the use of the word undisclosed reports because as far as we know and we verified this also with the state's attorney, we have gone ahead and been very careful about making sure that any accusation any allegation of sexual abuse of someone in the church has been reported to the state's attorneys. The nearly 700 page report said investigators found that more than 450 Catholic clergy and Illinois 6 diocese had sexually abused nearly 2000 children since 1950. It depicted the problem as far worse than the hierarchy had acknowledged in 2018 at the start of the state's review. The newly revealed cases wouldn't necessarily have been handled by the archdiocese, but rather the religious orders were the pre served. During the 5 years, we have constantly asked the attorney general. If you come across any accusations that have been substantiated, that we don't have who are religious orders or others, please tell us, and we will look into it and do it. So we were surprised by the new names on there. We thought we had that kind of relationship with the attorney general. And so our disappointed that we're hearing these for the first time. Super acknowledged that the report laid barrow problem in the way the Catholic Church has handled abuse cases. Religious orders such as the Jesuits franciscans and Maris often escaped scrutiny since they keep personnel files on their priests, not the diocese and leadership. I'm Walter ratliff.
AP News Radio
Half of US public approves of Washington's arms deliveries to Ukraine in war's 2nd year
"A survey by the University of Chicago's Harris school of public policy and norc shows U.S. popular support for Washington's backing of Ukraine has faded a little but remains widespread. The polls suggest half of the people in the U.S. support The Pentagon's ongoing supply of weapons to Ukraine for its defense against Russian forces that levels nearly unchanged in the past year, while about a quarter are opposed to sustaining the military lifeline that's now topped $37 billion. Big majorities among both Democrats and Republicans believe Russia's attack on Ukraine was unjustified according to the poll taken last month when it comes to specific kinds of U.S. backing for Ukraine, popular support for U.S. sanctions against Russia has experienced the most significant drop, falling 13% this spring, although still a majority. I'm Charles De Ledesma.
AP News Radio
Catholic clergy sexually abused Illinois kids far more often than church acknowledged, state finds
"An investigation found Catholic clergy sexually abused kids in Illinois far more often than the church acknowledged. The attorney general's office in Illinois found 451 Catholic clergy, sexually abused nearly 2000 children in the state over nearly 70 year period. More than four times what the church had reported. Attorney general Kwame Raoul credits the survivors absent their courage and willingness to come forward and discuss their experience, there would be no true investigative report. Raul acknowledged the statute of limitations has expired in many cases, and those abusers will never see justice in a legal sense. The intention is to provide the public with the accountability, public accountability, and a measure of healing to survivors. Who have long suffered in silence. The archbishop in Chicago called abuse repugnant and said the church is cooperating fully with the state's review. I'm Ed Donahue
The Dan Bongino Show
WSJ: Big Progressive Cities Continue to See a Declining Population
"So I'm just going to ask a simple question to the liberals out there Pay attention cotton out of the year stick it in your mouth for me If you guys don't suck if you don't suck see my premise is you suck Your premises no we don't suck We're really great So if your premise is accurate in my premise is wrong and you premises that you don't suck And I'm wrong saying you do suck Then how come the numbers marry up with you really sucking I'm just checking because The Wall Street Journal again no far right Alvin pretty down to center the leaning right but pretty down to center right They have this article on escape from New York Remember they told us oh all these people are leaving New York to go to Florida but it's just because the lockdowns and they're going to Texas Oh that's strange because the lockdowns they're kind of over right Last time I checked and it's so weird like people are still leaving It's almost as if my premise that you suck is real And your premise that you don't suck is fake Because the numbers are pretty devastating According to the latest census data New York City lost 468 people Oh no 468,200 Holy Moses That's bananas because the entire population of the city of Miami's only 449,000 Wow That's a lot of peeps man New York City lost 5% of its population So strange Here there's a little common thread with the other big losers too Remember the liberal premise We don't suck and the conservative premise Now you suck Other big losers include Chicago 81,313 people That's a lot of peeps LA 76,529 We're on in all these cities by the way And San Francisco 65,522
AP News Radio
Ja Morant in limbo again as he awaits review of latest gun video on social media
"Grizzly star John morant says he takes accountability for the latest video in which he is apparently seen holding a firearm. His statement came shortly after NBA commissioner Adam silver expressed disappointment that the Memphis guard is under investigation by the league again. Silver met with morant after a similar incident in March and suspended him for a games. Silver said he was quote shocked. When he saw the video during a televised interview with ESPN before Tuesday's draft lottery in Chicago. I'm get cool ball.
Mark Levin
The Real Threat to Our Country Is Not White Supremacy
"Nobody lives thinking the greatest danger to our country's white supremacy If we are a young black man who lives in the inner city the greatest threat you face is another young black man who might murder you Because that's what the statistics show And so as long as people think and speak like this the real threats to various communities are not going to be addressed I just read somewhere that by the time you're 40 in Chicago did you see this mister producer That you're likely to have seen somebody murdered Or a murder victim White supremacy What are they talking about He's not talking about the Klan and neo Nazis I think we can all agree how disgusting they are That's not what we're talking about White supremacy when you do critical race theory propaganda it's all white They're not even in fact they're offended if you say you're talking about the klansmen in the neo Nazi No no no no no A white dominant culture A white privileged culture This is why signing equity executive orders left and right That Marxist crap There's nothing to do with the Klan in the neo Nazis It has to do with white people Whatever that means And I still don't know what that means
AP News Radio
What to Know About the N.B.A. Draft Lottery
"The Victor webinar sweepstakes is about to have a winner. The NBA draft lottery is Tuesday night in Chicago and 14 teams will hope that the ping Pong balls will bounce their way, giving them the number one pick this year and the chance to draft web and Yama. The Detroit Pistons, Houston Rockets and San Antonio spurs all have the best chance of winning the lottery and getting the number one pick 14% or about 7 to one odds. The 19 year old web and Yama averaged 21.4 points, 9.9 rebounds and 3.1 blocks in 29 games for his French LMB pro a league
AP News Radio
New Chicago mayor pledges commitment to progressive strategy, asks for unity
"Brandon Johnson was sworn in as the mayor of Chicago. Johnson is the former organizer for the Chicago teachers union and former Cook County commissioner and has no experience within city government, Chicago has a higher per CAPiTA homicide rate than New York or Los Angeles. We don't want our story to be that Chicago beast came so traumatized by violence and despair that our residents felt no other choice but to leave. Johnson is asking chicagoans to set aside deep differences and confront challenges together. A safe Chicago means a safe Chicago for all. No matter what you look like, who you love or where you live. During his inaugural address, Johnson talked about the growing migrant crisis. We don't want our story to be told that we were unable to house the unhoused. Chicago is already struggling to provide shelter and other help to hundreds arriving from the southern border with family sleeping in police station lobbies. I'm Ed Donahue
The Charlie Kirk Show
Why the Regime Media Won't Talk About Illegal Immigration
"Why are so many people on the center right of media afraid to talk about this because they don't want to be called racist racist by the regime media? Look, they want illegals. The regime wants illegals to use its political pods. It's number one. They also want to change the country demographically. They want illegals to eliminate the idea of the rule of law. Very important. They want illegals for low wage jobs. This is one of the reasons why Republicans kind of look around and they're like, oh, well, you know, we could get someone for $14 an hour to work at my hotels instead of $18, so they kind of look around and they say, oh, they're all going to vote the way we want to vote. Silly. They want illegals to increase disorder and chaos. Now, this is important. There's a lot of depth here. We'll talk about this in a second. They want illegals because they will have anchor babies, future Democrat voters. Now that's not cast in stone. I mean, there's plenty of movements in the Hispanic community, but it's less about Hispanic. If you have low wage, vulnerable communities that do not own things, the Democrat party have become experts at taking advantage of those communities. So they come here with absolutely nothing, Democrats offer them free stuff, freebies, call the opposition racist. We're dealing from an we're dealing from a deficit right out of the gate. And by the way, they're criminals. They broke the law. Let's stop acting like, oh, look at this wonderful journey of this person. By the way, some of these people are from Ethiopia from China from Somalia. They act as if like, wow, you know, this is Mexico is so terrible. And you know, it's just, you know, it's war torn and all this. You know what's war torn Chicago is war torn. Baltimore is war torn. The subways of New York are war torn.
AP News Radio
Luis Robert Jr. stars as Chicago White Sox top Houston Astros 3-1
"Dylan sees through 6 shutout innings as the White Sox defeated the Astros three to one. Yeah, this was really great. Finally, I think some of the work going into it paid off. So anytime you get a win and hold them, scoreless, it's fantastic. C's did not get the victory, but this was his best performance of the season, limiting Houston to four hits with 5 strikeouts, offensively, Tim Anderson and Johan Mankato each had three hits, and Luis Robert had a couple of RBIs, including one on his tenth home run. David Shuster, Chicago
AP News Radio
On the front lines of the writers strike, meet the true rat czar of NYC: Scabby the Rat
"A ten foot tall inflatable gray rat has been the mascot of union protests, and he's making an appearance at the writer's strike in New York City. Scabby the rat with his beady eyes shark teeth and big belly is what screenwriter Lisa cron was greeted with, her first day walking her first picket line. I was thrilled to see that we were being chaperoned by scamming the rat. The inflatable rat was dreamed up in the 80s by a Chicago union now. They're everywhere, says Marty flash with NYC district council of carpenters who gets lots of questions. They think it might have something to do with an infestation of rats. And I explain no, not at all. It's to imply that a rat contract, there is not paying their workers the fair pay. Scabby rats now have QR codes to inform the public of their purpose. Julie Walker, New York
AP News Radio
Pilots at United picket for higher pay as pressure builds before summer travel season
"Pilots at United Airlines picketed for higher pay at major airports from coast to coast. They were wearing their pilots uniforms, hat included holding signs that read families first fix our schedules and four years past due. We've reached a point where management is stuck on denial and delay. And we're frustrated. Pilot Garth Thompson was at O'Hare airport in Chicago. Pilots like arzu delp in San Francisco say united should reward them for helping the airline survive the pandemic. And we feel it is now time for the company to step to the plate. And to give us a contract, acknowledging the sacrifices and the contributions that we have made. A united spokesman says they're working with the pilot union on a deal, a strike is an unlikely, but pilots at American and Southwest have voted to authorize strikes, Delta Air Lines reached a deal with its pilots earlier this year. I'm Ed Donahue
AP News Radio
Facing influx of asylum-seekers, New York City says it has reached its limit on migrants
"Facing an influx of asylum seekers, New York City says it has reached its limit. I'm Lisa dwyer. New York City officials say they will be unable to accommodate and expected wave of asylum seekers as the federal government's pandemic era immigration restrictions and faced with what he describes as a looming humanitarian crisis mayor Eric Adams announced a series of steps aimed at easing pressure on the city's overcrowded shelter system, temporarily suspending portions of New York's long-standing right to shelter law, and by sending roughly two dozen migrants on a bus to a hotel to another town in upstate New York, overriding pushback and threats of legal action. Adams decompression strategy marks the latest escalation with cities ongoing struggle to handle tens of thousands of migrants, many of whom arrived over the past year on buses sent by the Republican governor of Texas. Several other Democrat leaning cities, including Chicago and Denver, have also grappled with a growing number of migrants and how to provide them with food, medicine, and shelter without significant federal funding.
The Eric Metaxas Show
Filmmaker Joel Gilbert Exposes Michelle Obama's Privileged Past
"Back, talking to Joel, Gilbert, the filmmaker behind Michelle Obama 2024, which you can see at Salem now dot com. Joel, this is a very serious subject. And it's at least interesting that you're the only one that has really gone out there and made this case. And when you make the case, it seems like a very, very good case. Why do you suppose others aren't talking about this more? Well, they've kind of bought into the public persona of Michelle Obama that she's just this big forever First Lady and doesn't like politics. But behind it is a very, very political person. Her father was a precinct captain when she was growing up in Chicago working for the Democrat party machine. Michelle grew up in Jesse Jackson's house. She was best friends with his daughter santita when he was running for president. Michelle married a politician. She's very much a political person. And but you can see her now working the appeal to minority voters. And she's been doing this for years. One of the biggest stories she's been telling for 15 years is how her high school counselor racially profiled her regarding her Princeton University application. Well, I went and did the research. I went to Chicago and I found out that her Princeton University, the guidance counselor at the high school, was a church going black woman. So there's no way that was true. So the church going black woman racially profiled Michelle Obama. Right. That's very interesting. Well, the reality is Michelle tells these stories of racial slights talking about how she was held back in life because of her skin color and people held her back and she grew up as a black woman. The reality is completely different. I talked to three of Michelle's boyfriends her high school and elementary school teachers, classmates, you name it. Michelle had a very privileged childhood. She was in dance classes for ten years. She performed at the Chicago theater. She went to Paris when she was in high school with her French club. She was a very privileged kid. And interestingly, she even talks about openly in the book how she grew up afraid of black people. They
AP News Radio
Mike Krzyzewski to join NBA as special adviser to basketball operations
"Mike krzyzewski is coming out of retirement and heading to the NBA as an adviser, not a coach. The league said Wednesday that czyzewski, the Hall of Famer and all time men's college division one coaching wins leader is its new special adviser to basketball operations. He will be present next week at the league's general managers meeting in Chicago coinciding with the draft lottery and combine, a 5 time national title winner Shazam retired from coaching in 2022 after 42 seasons at duke. I'm geffen coolbaugh.
The Bechdel Cast
"chicago." Discussed on The Bechdel Cast
"Oh you're we're actually taking you to the special section murderers row and then rocks like is that nicer. And then she gives a look to some looks over her shoulder to like a prison guard or something. And it's just like pop this bitch basically and they're i mean idea. I do as far as that character goes. And i think that your point is extremely valid but her like lawlessness of like she buys into the roxy hype but then the second. It's not working in her favor anymore. She's like the blonde wig is in the trash. You know her allegiances with whoever can make the most money. Yeah so yeah yeah meals. I think that is this movie. Does pass the bechtel test. I'm sure of it. Yes oh it's super does. they're often. They're often talking about killing men but for those than as the test. But but even without it i it does. Pass plenty of times between velma and roxie between roxy and mama morton between velma and mama morton between Actually this is a good question. I don't know how many of the prisoners are actually named. I don't think that many. Yeah if any. Because i'm racking my brain. I don't know if we get names. Four and even factor. I mean it's possible that it exists in the state. I i don't know in terms of adaptation. I don't believe you learn their names in the In the movie yeah. So but but that's it does pass. I think it also passes between mary. Sunshine and roxy like there are a number of dynamic highly motivated female characters who talk to each other about all sorts of shit and his movie. Yeah but as far as our nipple scale in which we read the movie examining it through and intersectional feminist lends this is another tricky one while it is commenting on and providing satire on these like double standards that are foisted upon women. It makes the same mistake of only focusing on the narratives of middle-class conventionally attractive white women which is also what the media was doing at the time. So i like again. The precedent was set. So understand that. That's sort of why the adaptations went that way as well. But i don't like it i would. It would be more interesting to me. For example if dynamics works in terms of yes there are these attractive white women who are exploiting the privilege that they have to get exonerated from the her crimes. They are clearly guilty of versus the women of color. Who were right alongside them. Who didn't have those same privileges to exploit and how what like. What are their outcomes. I'd like to know so. I think that You know in an ideal world the movie would have explored that more. But that's also not what People in two thousand two are really concerned about doing. Yeah it's it's a bummer but If this were to ever be adapted again and it seemed like this movie gets adapted every forty years or something. I guess the against the wishes of the person who wrote the play go figure right because it's also a nineteen twenty-seven i wanted to say cecil movie. Yeah who. I wasn't able to track down. It seems like kind of a rare. I don't know i didn't. I wasn't able to find it. Yeah i mean it does like a super popular story. And unfortunately it's like i mean it's still relevant but a completely agree that it's you know kind of begging to be updated and modernized and the issues that you know whatever it's extra frustrating because it's like all the source material and the characters are there. You're just not using family. You're not exploring their right exploring them. They're just kind of left there. We only know that a woman stabbed her husband ten times and another woman and good for her and ask for. But i need more information. Yeah exactly so for those reasons. I'll give the movie a three. It's getting some extra points because it is a movie. I very much enjoy. It is very watchable. The song and dance numbers are spectacular so three nipples and they go to the women whose stories have been anakin represented revolving around this like microcosm of lady murderers in the jazz era of chicago. What about you jamie. i'm going for. I think that this movie is an a story are doing so much. I completely agree with you. That for for all this story does to examine you know kind of weaponize white fragility It does not examined the issues that women of color were facing during this time specific and it's it does come down. You know particularly because this story is commenting on the prison system to some extent and the prison system in the us especially disproportionately affects black people specifically black men. And there's an and it's not like we know anything about tae digs his character and he's the only black man who appears in the whole movie. So i i do think that there's absolutely issues there that if this were to be updated again and as much as i don't really care for their re booty culture i i would be. I would be down for another an updated version of chicago. Yeah because there is so much there and i think that Particularly if people of color were included in in the production behind the camera. There's so much to work with. And there could be a lot more examined. So that i mean that and the weinstein involvement. I think the main things that are going against this movie for me. But i just think that movies doing so much cool stuff in terms of showing us some truly like despicable across the board female. Protagonists that you still deeply understand why. They're doing what they're doing. You're given the proper historical context for who they are and what they're doing and and i mean i i. I don't think that there's a lot of movies that are like bind to watch that or massively successful that examined topics like this effectively. That examined topics like you know. Why were these women driven to commit murder. And i think that it's pretty clear what drives them. It's the you know oppressive expectations of the men that run the world around them..
The Bechdel Cast
"chicago." Discussed on The Bechdel Cast
"Which one is eve is eve. Bette davis she younger woman. Okay right you're right. I'm butchering remembering. But i love that movie. And yet i don't know what the characters Story of my life. But yeah. I mean that another. We're kind of talking that that would be a more interesting choice and then and then you can keep the ending as is and have them reconcile friendship back by being like. Oh that media circus was bullshit. Let's take this on the road and make money off of all these losers. Who vaguely remember that. We've murdered people like yeah. Whatever that rocks fi. I like that better. Just felt like the writer was like it's a movie. We have to throw more tension in it. Where could a source of tension be. Oh of course between two women because women are petty and jealous and bitter right and it's not like this story lacks tension like there's no need for like there's an incredible amount of tension between roxy and basically everyone that she's ever met because she's a pretty selfish and abrasive person that said in. I mean it's again it's like. She's such a tough character. She fucking sucks. But like you're okay. I you know to an extent. I get it and i do like like the moment where roxy is it works against her but she's so quick to call out. Billy flynn for being a charlatan asshole. It blows up in her face but it is kind of cathartic to see you know someone who so clearly in it for money in cloud and doesn't actually care about the women that he's defending To see her just like what. Fuck you you know. You're fired. I don't know Speaking of people who are in it for the money. I thought because i didn't super remember this movie until going back to prep for this episode. Mama morton she is sort of presented at first as like a big hard ass. And i thought oh i wonder if there's going to be a lot of antagonism between her and the prisoners because that also would've fell like a unexpected choice to introduce tension into the situation. But i was kind of surprised that there isn't much tension there like she at first. She's like oh it's something bothering you. Why don't give a shit. Also i love money but then after that like she seems pretty willing to like help the people who have money. So she's like a capitalist and we don't love super cat like she. I mean. I feel like she's just kind of standing for bike. I'm on the side of whoever is paying me right. she is. She's not really on the side of the prison industrial complex. Because she's accepting money from murderers but she'll take a check from the prison industrial complex. Like yeah she's just like she she's lawless. it's interesting that they cast a black woman in that role agri considering the prison industrial complex disproportionate effects and abuses black people So that was confusing. Yeah i do think that it is Telling and bizarre. I mean it's it's what i mean. It's like can. I picture anyone in this movie except queen latifah in his role. I know like she's fucking incredible. And what is interesting based on A rapid google. We just pause the podcast video that this role was generally played by white women Up until queen latifah was cast in this role and since then the roles generally played by black women. I believe that the same actress Has been playing mama morton on broadway for some time. Yeah famous black. Broadway actress broadway actresses. I'm sorry but but all that to say that That doesn't seem to be in the dna of the part but then gradually because of queen latifah's casting and performance became kind of integral to the part yet as of th roots over the last ten years. Or so mama. Morton has been played by black actresses on broadway. Yeah not an ideal part two right. I mean i love queen latifah. She steals every scene. She's in the part where like good. She's telling roxie..
The Bechdel Cast
"chicago." Discussed on The Bechdel Cast
"So many of the expectations are at odds with each other because yeah demure but you also have to be wildly sexy and depending on the situation you can be punished for being either of those things and and how can how hot i mean whatever like being traditionally attractive like there's sides to that coin as well where it's it's i think that i i mean. Obviously in some of the cases we just described women who are considered to not be attractive. Apparently you can just kill them for not doing murders. That's an oversimplification. But but then on the other side. It's you know women who who do kinda fall into that traditionally attractive. Whatever are often hyper sexualize against their will and harassed and right right it's just it's impossible. there's just so many ways to lose this for all it's interesting. I just learned something that maybe smile. Please sure fleas still yelling. Well he's wishing you happy birthday a levy of my mind. Anyways jerry orbach played. Billy flynn in the original broadway production. How fun is that. How the seven one in the nineteen seventy five one. Oh my goodness chita. Rivera played velma. Kelly like icons cons. So i was just happy to learn that jerry orbach and richard gere played the same part. I like i like that too. richard gere. Kills it as billy. Flynn he really is. And that's really him tap dancing not really him tactics. I watched all the feature at and he said it was kind of funny because it was like he had sung. He had sung before And so. I think that he and john c reilly were i think the main members of the cast. That didn't have dance training needed to dance. And they they both tried so hard and they both were talking about how they're like. It's intimidating being the same room with rob marshall. He was in cats. I can't even tap and like all this stuff. And then there's videos of like rob marshall taking it really slow with john c reilly and like it's just such wholesome footage That's so i just love when choreographers direct. Because it's like when you when you see like footage of a choreographer directing a musical movie you're like oh yeah. How else would you even do that like you're going to be. You're like if you can't do it yourself. Don't tell me to do it. But rob marshall like he's fucking on it. He's doing all that jazz. Right next to catherine zeta-jones and it's exciting. The there is a whole half hour making of documentary. That's on youtube as well. But if you're chicago head. I'd recommend it because it's just such a blast. Who do you think rob. Marshall played in cats when he got injured. Do you think it was like my mr mustafa lease or urge. Tom tiger the question. Which of the cats is doing. The kind of movement i mean. They're all kind of doing wild movement but like who is most likely to herniated disk. I felt that some rum tom. Tug or shit to be herniated disc. Who's your favorite one again with the pants and the suspended. My god skin'll shan. I feel like it could have marshalls. Bushings could have done a good skill. Shanks i wonder. It doesn't his His wikipedia pages very vague about it. He just like he was in cats and herniated disk. No we're not taking any more questions at this time. We need more information. I'm like okay. He was a jealous. I need more info which one which run it matters which jellicoe cow was he though he could have been monkey. Strap sure. I don't know there's a lot of cats that are at high risk for herniated disc. So doesn't really it's so funny. It's like oh members of the catholic could have herniated disk. That really doesn't narrow it down at all. They're all over the place for this movie. I mean we touched on it briefly but just the relationship. Between roxie and velma being highly antagonistic for most if not all of the movie because even at the end when they are working together we i get why they don't like each other right because well so like velma is mean to roxy i for what appears to be a petty reasons. She's well i don't even know it. Maybe it's not even any reason she's just mean to her because she's like the newbie there unless i'm misreading or miss remembering something i don't know i think that it's i was really interested to learn that the to like the to real life. People seemed to get along just fine because it seems like the the logic that this story is subscribing to and. maybe. I'm making excuses for it. I mean it's like they are just are to fema leads are being put at odds The way i guess. I had like solidified in my head over the years that maybe i need to question a little bit but like was that though the reason that women are often put in these antagonistic situations and the internal logic of the story is. There's only room for one woman in the headlines at a time short. So it's like this. It almost feels like they're viewing it as a competition and like why would it. You know it's almost like reality show logic of like. I didn't come here to make friends. I came here to be the most famous murderer ever right. That was kind of it but it was like but does not even what happened in railway like that was what happened in real life. I would sort of let it go. But that's not so. Why add that in nor is it. What happens at the very beginning of their antagonistic relationship. Could maybe understand if right when roxy got there and she was like already the hottest like the talk of the town. Kind of thing right. She's not at first. Yeah where then. Velma would feel threatened and that would motivate her being cruel to roxie. But that's not what happens. roxie doesn't take vilmos spotlight until later race so it first vulne mean to roxy for no reason when roxie is like mean back. That does seem more motivated. Because that's sort of like a retaliation thing will you. I'm going to be mean to you now. But you're right yeah. The beginning is not very motivated by much. Yeah and then they. They continue to not get along. But then it's all just. It's i see what you're saying in terms of because we you know we've we've talked about this too a lot. Where like especially when men right women being extremely antagonistic and like petty to each other. They never consider the context of why that would be right because if that does happen..
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"I don't understand the obsession. And then on the flip side. Because bridget jones came out in two thousand one chicago came out in two thousand two and renee zellweger. I mean she's very thin in this movie and people were like in the reviews for this movie people were saying. She's shockingly gaunt and she's setting dangerous precedent and all this stuff and no one ever asked her how she felt about it was just like baseless comments and whatever and so she disputed the claims she was unhealthily thin at the time and it just i don't know it's just another example of like she gave an incredible performance like what is like. Shut the fuck up truly so. I just wanted to say that again. Just leave rene alone. She does a good job. She seems like on a good person very talented. She's got two oscars newsletter last letter. Chill she has like a. I heard i learned this. Who weekly as well. She has a boyfriend right now and they're just hanging out on balconies together and good for rene them love it. It's is this irony. Or i'm not sure how to classify this but like the movie chicago being about how women's appearance is so heavily commented on and publicized and like the topic of so much press again. That's one of the main components of this movie and then for a bunch of people to turn around and then do that very thing To the actors body right like do you not do. Do you hear yourself. Hello i'm like maybe maureen dolls. Watkins was right. Maybe as us like people clearly aren't getting was trying to say here because it's like the same breath the ones learned a damn thing in eighty years. Yeah yeah it's like unfortunately watching. I mean these murder cases are nearly a hundred years old at this point and we see this same dynamic exists between the press and the public and the spectacle like. It's still alive. And well in with the exception of like the communication channels basically unaltered which is so depressing. And i'm like god of all it. It sucks that this timeless story but it like kind of is yeah. I wanted to show it when i mean this. Shoutout is not the correct thing here but just one. Last sort of point on how will whiteness and traditional attractiveness is clearly weaponized. In this story the freezer came to mind. And i had to sort of go back in my head and be like where it did. I hear this. Where did this come from was the Too pretty for prison. Have you heard that phrase before. I don't think i have. It's a phrase that. I couldn't remember when i when i first heard it and i sort of in and basically it ties into. I think you see very present in rockies behavior where she's like you can't sentenced me to death. I can't be in prison. I'm too pretty for prison. And it's it's very given that rockies murderer. I'm not pro present at all but it's given that she's a murderer she's trying to get away with it on the basis of being traditionally attractive white woman. Right yeah and so the too pretty for prison phrase comes from two thousand and five. It's based on a case that is absolutely horrific. And i don't rehash it here but it essentially comes down to a female teacher who sexually abused a student and while on trial was the phrase that was. I don't know if it was evoked in the courtroom. But that was the phrase that was connected to this case but all that to say like chicago's based on cases from the nineteen twenty s. this phrase. Too pretty for prison is it was a ascribed to similar behavior. That was happening eighty years later like. It's it's depressing. That's some real. Karen shit yes current and then some of it's white privilege. It's hot privilege. What's the phrase for that you know. I think yeah. We don't talk about hot privilege enough. I think as a as a culture it is disgusting. I don't know that we've we've discussed it on the show in depth but it definitely does seem like it's at play in this story. Yeah it is weird because like well it also kind of speaks to the one of the double standards. That are foisted on women where you're expected to be extremely attractive and really sexy but not too sexy because you don't want anyone to think you're a slut so you the exact line that they're towing here is right so it's like you like you. Have you have to like you know. Look certain way and adhere to every western standard of beauty. But you also have to be a loyal and devoted wife. And you have to be greg knit with a baby and be ready to make a home for your husband and for your children and to iron his shirts and to do all that stuff and that to me is like the most effective thing with this movie accomplishes in terms of just like pointing that out making that commentary similarly like the idea of oh these these delicate women were seduced by these evil forces of of such evil things as a genre of music and alcohol which yeah just again the these such rigid gender roles and standards that are placed on women in terms of like you can never miss behave. You can never drink alcohol. You have to also be really pretty attractive but you only can have is for your husband and just like all of these standards. It's like the class gets an impossible bar clearer..
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"Away from this famous play i wrote and i don't know if i really wanna keep perpetuating this story. And so bob. Fosse approached her in the sixties and was like i need to make this into a fosse hands musical. It's an emergency. You need to let me do it. And she said oh. Yeah and it wasn't until after she died that he was able to get the rights. Because i think that Money plus st plus. Not living creator equals oh whoopsie daisy. I have the rights. It is like i mean. Am i glad that bob fosse scammed his way into the rights to this kind of but it is but the ethics of that i was like well. That's kinda fucked up. She said she said no. Bob she said no. I don't know because our right. That was the only other thing that i had that i was like. That's something yeah and that it kinda relates to this quote that will share from an article on scifi dot com hot entitled the real story behind. Chicago's mary murderesses. Roxie hart and velma kelly and this is speaking to the general atmosphere and what marine dallas. Watkins was reporting on so quote the press and the public eight up the gossip the details on dresses and the sob stories. About bad men booze and devilish jazz prosecutors began to think you couldn't convict a pretty woman in this town as for watkins. She believed her influence was key to the acquittal of both the mary murderesses as she felt the pair were guilty and likely lying through their teeth. She had mixed feelings on that. So she wrote about it in nineteen twenty. Six watkins went from reporter to broadway playwright with brave little women a satirical stage play. That would later be retitled chicago. It was she who transformed a non garner their victims husbands lawyers peers and reporters into characters. Like roxie hart. Velma kelly billy flynn mary sunshine and go to hell kitty. She hoped this dark comedy would highlight. How appearances and sex appeal had become too important in the justice system unquote. So that's really interesting. I mean that's like that the such a bizarre journey for all of this to go on. I think it's an interesting way to. And i think you know the ethics are certainly up for debate because you could argue. This is not necessarily her story to tell. It's i'm sort of like. I don't know it doesn't bother me that much. I i like it. Because it's she's not claiming that it's the story of beulah on. She's you know changing things she's like. I don't know i. I think that that it's really interesting. How got made. And how i do. I mean i'm always interested in like how creators opinions changed towards their own work. Wants it sort of out of their hands. And the fact that like mary sunshine was i. I didn't even realize this. Until i was doing this research segment but that mary sunshine was like this kind of amalgamation of reporters that marine dallas. Watkins thought were too easy on. And kind of you know eating up this bullshit from clearly guilty people and also like a way of poking at herself for how she covered the story at the time and almost like a way of. I don't know like giving the finger to herself in her own work. it's very. it's like this right complex shit because mary. Sunshine is noticeably. The only woman reporting on these cases in the movie so right. That's very funny. yeah. I don't know but to me that kind of just i. It's sort of the cornerstone of what this movie is about. Which is that.
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"chicago." Discussed on The Bechdel Cast
"Then so there were these two women in particular who were getting a lot of media attention because they were traditionally by western beauty standards. Attractive right so this was boola is beulah beulah. Let's go with that beulah on and belva gartner these women. They were receiving fan mail. They were giving each other makeovers in jail. I thought that was more interesting. Like that was something that i wish that. They kind of focused more on in. The adaptations is the fact. That i like in the adaptations. Definitely velma and roxie are put into conflict which makes sense in the story but it sounds like the the people that are based on were friends and like rice friends. And i kind of more interested in that angle of them being kind of allied in this like similar fucked up situation from the beginning Yeah so all these women were like giving each other pedicures and stuff. Basically making themselves as pretty popular as possible knowing that. It was rare for the all-male juries at the time to convict women especially attractive women of murder even though even if there was like mountains of evidence against them i will say yeah it seems pretty it seems like beulah and belva did. It seems like they did. Yeah yeah so then. Maureen dallas watkins. Who was one of the few women. Reporters at the chicago tribune. At the time was assigned to report on murderous row and it was assigned to her specifically because her editors thought that that particular subject of covering women awaiting trial for murder would be too boring for men to report on. How wrong they were right. So kind of with the help of all of this press from maureen dallas watkins on beulah and belva. They were not convicted of murder. They were set free and they did this because they kind of leaned into the defense of having been corrupted by jazz music and booze. So that's something that we'll talk about a lot like all things that are associated with personal freedom which was not cool for Women to be having right and then they kind of as we see in the movie they put on these personas of ono. I'm reformed now. i'm. I'm a sinner. But now i'm sweet and innocent and i even have a baby on the way because this fake pregnancy thing that we see roxie hart do in. The movie is based on what beulah on actually did in real life to try to garner sympathy from the public. So was truly shocked. at how. Close the velma. Kelly stuff seems to be like somewhat fictionalized. Almost sister thing. I think is is made up but Yeah roxie hart and buell honor like one and the same like down to like the mechanic husband who wasn't totally sure what was going on right right exactly so. I have a quote here that i'll share. Which unless you have any other additional preliminary context that i think will lead into discussion about kind of what's thematically happening in this movie. I think Well i think the only thing i wanted to touch on was the fax. It maureen dallas watkins so she liked covers a story and her twenty s and releases it. I thought it was interestingly. She the the play and the musical but the place out as like a pretty like heavy handed satire because it was a play that was running in chicago about murders that had taken place in chicago. Two years prior like everyone was watching it like it was. i mean. Obviously like a in iconic well-crafted story but it was like everyone knew exactly what this was about and it was interesting too. I read a little bit about her life at into a super deep dive but just how her attitude towards her. This play kind of changed overtime. Where i think she started to feel as time went on and she she liked left public life in the forties but lives too. I think the late sixties early seventies something like that but as time went on she sort of Didn't want the play to be continued to be adapted even though it was adapted into a movie with ginger rogers a believe in the forties called roxie hart right but i think she's. She started to feel like people are taking the wrong message..
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"Or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. And we're back. I wanted to just start this conversation by acknowledging something that is by far one of the worst elements of this movie. Which is the fact that it's produced by the weinstein's yes having and this is. I mean we've talked about on the show before. I don't think that there's really occasion to rehash everything now but obviously the fact that the weinstein's attached to this production is horrific. And it and it just you know it takes a little bit of the wind out of a a really amazing production. Fortunately it as far as i can tell. It doesn't seem as if the weinstein's were like around in an onset capacity It seems like the production of this movie was relatively smooth. There was some News items. I was seeing about. I believe goldie hawn almost being an an adaptation of chicago by the weinstein's in the mid ninety s and then she was harassed by harvey weinstein and the project ended up happening. will link to that in the description but obviously want to acknowledge their involvement. And yeah i mean it goes without saying third fucking monsters. Yes but the production team on this movie. I mean it's kind of interesting where this movie is written and directed by men. They are both gay men. An openly gay men in in hollywood and in the early two thousand stat was still a a pretty unusual thing to be an openly. Gay director directing movies of you know that. Were this huge. So shout out to rob marshall and his hopefully recovered desk for that. Yes and and their Queer directors who have gone on to have huge careers. Afterwards this is i. don't think rob marshall ever you know returned to the height of chicago. But he you know. He directed into the woods which i didn't see he. He directed the. Emily blunt mary poppins. He's directing the new little mermaid and then the screenplay was written by bill condon who started as and is now a huge director he Wrote chicago but he also wrote and directed dreamgirls another phase of mine from this time directed to twilights direct. Him both breaking dawn's. Mr bill was was there And also directed the He he wrote the greatest showman. Okay that's a point against yabu. But and then he directed the emma watson beauty and the beast that sucked all that to say. Okay the to kind of top brass. Here are queer men who went on to have very successful careers so shout out there. Good for them. Should we do a little context. The context for this movie rocks. I knew i knew some of this but going back and like finding out how much of this movie apple this musical is pulled from. Actual history is so wild. Do you wanna take it. I can take whatever you prefer. How about this. Take another swig of your your beer. I all around. Oh sorry but yeah i mean. I'll take the reins on this one. But if there's anything i messed up or that you'd like to add by all means such time in i'll just chime in wendy's okay so chicago. The two thousand. Two movie is based on a nineteen seventy-five stage musical of the same name. Which had a revival in nineteen ninety-six which became the longest running american musical in broadway. History bob fosse baby. That's them bossy. Magic yes That musical was based on a nineteen twenty. Six broadway play by maureen dallas watkins who we will be talking more about and that play is about to real life. Jazz era murderers these names. I might get wrong as far as pronunciation It these names sound to me. Like you're forgetting velma kelly and roxie hart like just sound like you're like Belva gartner velma kelly. Yeah so belva. Gartner who velma. Kelly is based on and boola. Bela anon who roxie hart is based on So basically in the nineteen twenty s in chicago. I don't know if there was like an unprecedented number of women in jail for murder in this time and plays or if it's just that women being in jail for murder in chicago in the twenty s was especially publicized. And that's why we know a lot about it. I've a tiny bit of insight Here at the connects to quick plug. Act castle oman. Being released right now you can listen to it and you can hear caitlyn's voice in it as why voices in but so my understanding of this is at least in the way. It was covered in the media. That whole play was satirizing. Is that this kind of comes at the tail end like the crimes that this is based on comes a couple years after women get the vote. it comes at the tail end of the first wave feminist movement. And so the whole flapper era. I mean it and we'll discuss this as well. It was very still centered on middle-class above white women which this story is no exception to but What would i learned in researching for this show. Is that usually periods of success for really any social movement but in this case a feminist movement is then met In the years following a wave of backlash and rice focus on the negative aspects of literally. Anything woman is doing that is negative. And so i read on this with that lens is that this came in the the kind of fallout of this huge success for the feminist movement and By really putting media scrutiny on women who were murdering their sexual partners whether they were you know in roxy case sh- she's cheating her husband. Or velma kelly like she's portrayed as kind of this loose woman who's like living her own life and so demonizing those people in the fall of a big feminist win in in women's liberation kind of closely matches up with how those things tend to go. So i i wasn't super surprised to know that you know it's very. I think it would have been very easy in early twenties to be like well. Look feminism fucked. Everyone out like women are are murderers now. We gave women the right to vote and another killing murdering everybody. Yeah that was. That was kind of my read on this period. But i mean sure but i know that's not for sure but that was yeah. Yeah either way. It seemed like women. Being murderers was so hot it was so hot at that time and plan especially in chicago specifically for some reason so that will what was going on historically in the cook county jail in chicago in the twenties there was a section called murderers row. Where more than a dozen women were like all the coolest most recent woman. Murderers will all carriages. Yeah just hanging out being detained. They're wild waiting to stand trial for murder. Most of them had been accused of killing their husband or lover..
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"But i think queen latifah for be kinda takes it because she just hills at it so good and yeah it's like because of how good she is. You just want to watch this character for ever. And she's funny when she has the blonde wig. Oh my gosh is also good. I read that there was a musical number. That she and catherine zeta jones saying yeah movie called class that they cut in from the movie yachts in the credits instead. So yeah we maybe learn more there. But yeah i feel like we in. We'll talk about this but we do not get a lot of background on her but her role in the pre so she is also a prisoner right but she has taken on this role of helping out other prisoners in exchange for money. Ever heard of it so we meet her and she gets a great song. Which i think is my favorite in the movie. Which how does it go. And you're good to mama when you're good to mama mama's good to you. Oh my god. It's so well good that whole number and then in the behind the scenes they show you how they shot it. And i guess they shot it like the first time they shot it in the stage version. Where she's wearing the flopper outfit The first time they had her stay on stage. The whole time and then rob marshall's like let's try and this time like go into the crowd and interact with people and they ended up using stuff from both versions and so i was like. Oh i love that. It's it's so good it's great so roxy meets martin. She also meets..
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"chicago." Discussed on The Bechdel Cast
"But yeah isn't he like a regular there and he's really good. That's what i've heard. He was a pretty good roller skater. It's true and i. I don't know how frequently he he attends this roller rink but I'm so glad that. John c reilly exit. I feel like there's so. Many dads that have been able to connect with their children over a mutual appreciation of john. C reilly. Yeah what a beautiful thing. Dads are obsessed with john c. Reilly the deeper the cut the better. And i understand why i get it okay. So we're in the jazz age in chicago. We meet velma kelly. That's catherine zeta-jones hot. She shows up at this jazz club to do her vaudeville act which she normally does with her sister. But her sister isn't there. And velma is washing blood off her hands and we're like What's what's going on and just and then it's one of the best openings of any movie ever. Oh yeah she's so hot she's so it's like i in our defense. She like her. she's obviously very hot. But like for whole attitude is like like. She's just hot at a very profound. Like in this confident way or like. I'm never going to feel that way. For a second of my entire life. It's so amazing. To just behold it really is it's great and as you mentioned tate digs is also. They're playing the piano. And of aiding all over the place also there is roxie hart. that's renee zellweger. She is in the audience watching velma then she goes home with this guy that she's having an affair with who oh. I forgot to write his name down at fred. Caisley fred casey. Yes casey my ex-boyfriend. Why did you shoot him. I was leaving cetera right. Yes she finds out that fred. Casey has been lying to her about being able to help her break into show biz. Which is her dream. She wants to be just like velma kelly basically yeah Fred case is basically a guy who will like drive you to an open mic and say that he can get you up at the open hike but then it turns out. He's he can't even do her. He can't even get himself up at the open. Mike can you like don. And then you understand her motive for shooting him because that kind of guy. You know china guy. Yeah so he then gets really aggressive with her and physically assaults her so she shoots and kills him yeah roxy then tries to get her husband amos. That's john c reilly to take the fall for it saying that this guy was a burglar and that amos shot him in self defense another amazing number. It's so funny honey. Rock not one of my favorites but still pretty good. I love i love. I love and renee zellweger. Just casting looks at john riley and he's like but what but what and you're like. Oh my gosh someone help this guy out. And then she pushes them right because he is slowly realizing that this guy who has been shot is someone who roxy knows and is having an affair with so roxy ends up getting arrested and getting sent to cook county jail and the d. a. wants to see her hanged for her crime right. That's a big big. Which i guess which i didn't realize like how historically accurate that was at the time to of just the kind of bloodlust that came with normalized hangings in death penalties in the. Us yeah scary so the stakes are high. Yes and in jail. Roxie meets mama morton. That's queen latifah. Who i wanna see an entire movie about her character. I've never seen the stage production of this. I do like in the movie. I feel like i definitely want to know more about mama morton like how did she get start working there. What is her background like. What does she do when she's not working like i don't know. There's i have a gillian questions. And i wonder if there's more to her in the stage production i've never seen it onstage. Love to but yeah like queen latifah just. I mean she was nominated for. I think like everyone was nominated for an oscar for this movie but queen latifah was i think i mean catherine zeta-jones ended up winning and she was also amazing..
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"chicago." Discussed on The Bechdel Cast
"Promo code tb see at checkout for twenty percent off your first order and we're back okay. Let's summarize the movie. I probably cannot keep talking about. Oh wait but i have one more fun. Fact no please. We talked about it the other day. I'm sure it's connected. Dick chicago tangentially. Because oh because the two people in this fun fact we're both living in chicago. We're very famous in chicago. Roger ebert an oprah used to date eighty s that is a chicago fact. does your chicago cannon chicago. Canon includes this musical. And the fact that roger ebert and oprah briefly dated which. I didn't know about until you told me. I don't know why that's not more common knowledge. I know but they were at but like you at first. But he's like so much older than her and she's so much cooler than him and steadman is such a you know is so cannon right but yeah like he was basically her last boyfriend before men came into the picture one of the last ones. Wow wild whoa. That's just a. That's richard gere putting my hat on and that's chicago. Oh my gosh. And that's going to be one of those facts that i will forget and then relearn in a couple months or years or whatever and be like. Oh my god. I can't believe it. It's just like rob marshall getting a herniated disk and cats is just a delightful thing to learn over and over again. So what so what happens in this movie anyways. Okay let me tell you. It's the roaring twenties in chicago. There's jazz music there. Flappers their speak easies. It's the whole nine yards. Digs is in charge. Oh my gosh. I was so delighted to see him. Who i digs. Movie too wasn't really Heydays going five six seven eight and then what you're ten and you're like. Oh why squeezed me. Who's that exciting. Just a reminder taye diggs now follows me on twitter thanks to our stella got her groove back episode so incredible Hag him in this. I will and another celebrity connection. I have to this movie. Is that john riley. I saw at a roller skating. Rink in glendale california right. So we're my gosh. And he's like a regular. Not docs is hobbies..
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"chicago." Discussed on The Bechdel Cast
"I guess that i'm i still haven't seen in the heights and like whatever there's that steven spielberg west side story coming out. If i wonder if it's going to be any good. Because i feel like big directors are given popular broadway musicals and very often like don't know what to do with them and they're so i mean it's like you've got joel schumacher fanta biafra swings. He did not notice doing chris. Columbus did rent which is one of the worst like director to project matches. I can think of like there's so many examples of people getting it wrong and it's like yeah hat's cat because whatever i forget his name but the guy who did cats what's his name tom. Tom-tom p. who who also fucked up les mis but everyone gave him awards for it for some reason. Oh can you make every famous person. Sing out of key and cover them in dirt. Like i don't get but but yeah like this this whole what. What i think is so interesting about this movie. Because it's like this movie and moulin rouge came out very close together. And i feel like people sort of thought. Oh there's going to be this big resurgence of the movie musical. Then kind of wasn't because then they just like hired all these famous directors who didn't understand musicals But we'll on rouge one of the few live action movie musicals that i can fully get behind amazing. I was i feel like i. I don't know if i've ever said his name correctly baz luhrman. I think that's right. He definitely has like an understanding of like movement and pacing like that so much of his style. And that's why it works is anyways pisses me off. Stop giving really famous people who make like war movies. Warhorses like musicals. What are you doing anyways. Maybe we should take a quick break before we get into the recap because we've just been chatting for so long about how great chicago's all right. So let's take a quick break. We'll come right back When do.
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"We would rifle through my huge binder of dvd's and she's like oh my god you have chicago. I love chicago. And then for some cores catherine love chicago. She hasn't tastes great tastes. But for some reason. I was like do you wanted. I never watched this movie here. You can have my dvd. And now i regret it. Because i'm like i would like that back katherine kath are that she refuses. Have you asked. she's not it's not like she's refusing to give it to me. I just She doesn't know that i Also it's like streaming. So who cares. But but i purchased i really made. I made a lifelong commitment. I purchased chicago. Diamond addition while to watch whenever i wanted it's remastered and it has all these features and i had such a fun time watching them. The production of this movie looked so fun. Like do you ever at any time. I would watch a first of all. Rob marshall directed this movie and is further proof that the choreographer to director pipeline is immaculate and needs no adjustment. See kenny ortega. I was going to say yeah. And i think that's the other except i'm sure there's others but that's too. That's too pretty strong. Torreon good examples rob marshall choreographed and directed this movie and all the behind the scenes. It just looks like a bunch of celebrities went to summer camp to put together a school play. One of my favorite movies came out of it. Like is so cool. I love wow well it should i do the recap and yes but i need to tell you something about rob marshall i okay please i was. If you located this fact this is something that like okay. Much like my other fun fact. That has nothing to do with this movie but we talked about the other day. This is the fact that i know in my bones. But i forget an eye relearn once every couple of years and i love it. It's about director. Rob marshall and it's that He began as a dancer then became a choreographer make sense but the thing that launched him into choreography and directing and got him out of the full-time dancing game is that he suffered a herniated disc while performing in cats. So the only reason that chicago two thousand two is as amazing as it is. Because i feel like the choreography and the understanding of stage language is so much of what makes this movie awesome right and why i like it more than a lot of other. Live action movie musicals. Yeah i actually like understand cinematic language and like how to put together a musical in a way. That's like totally. I can suspend my disbelief for the things that are happening cetera. It's so yeah. it's so good. And and if he hadn't suffered a herniated disc while being a full body cat it wouldn't have happened. Imagine it is interesting to me how it's leg..
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"Here's what i'm thinking when we get exonerated because we're so hot sexy and per again. Yeah exactly so when we get exonerated would you like to start a podcast together. Oh my god. Can you imagine a velma kelly. Roxie hart puck okay. That is like the best. Worst basic cable sitcom reboot. I've ever heard of in my life like. Oh my god yes. The answer to your question is yes. Oh amazing wait so horrible. Who would they passed. As velma kelly and roxie hart doing a murder on. Oh my god they'd be like kristen. Ridder and kristen bell are roxie. And velma gosh signed me up honestly. Cbs call me. I've got the worst idea ever it would be on. Cbs and there would be like laugh tracks and stuff. Yeah oh my god. It would be an absolute nightmare and millions of people watch. It would be america's number one show anyway. Hello and welcome to the bechtel cast jamie. It's your birthday. Episode is so happy birthday jamie. Thank you so much Yeah i I can't believe it another year. Another year has passed. I've spent half of my twenties on this podcast. Oh wow shelly. We're we're coming up on the five year anniversary. We are which means. I've spent half of my thirties on this podcast. It's i mean we look at god. Look at god Twin god invented podcasting. She she really had us in mind. thank you. Thank you for the birthday wishes on the actual day of my birthday. When this comes out. I'll be in boston I think that al by do I'll do the jamie classic boston special. Which is that. I will get a large cold brew. Drink the whole thing. Then i will go to a bar and have a beer. And then they'll cancel each other out and be kind of tired and then i'll do the same thing again and then i'll sleep for twelve hours. I think that's probably going to be house with my birthday. I did that. I show like why live your life like that. But that's what i did. I mean it's your life your choice. I'm just sad that i'm not there to spend it with you because i'm still in la. I would. Oh my god. I would appeal all of my skin off to be back in la. But you know what i love. I love boston. I love my family. So i find yeah so so no. I am so excited to finally be covering a movie that i feel like we were okay. So we're covering chicago. Two thousand to use a modern classic one of my favorites. And i feel like we were originally putting off covering this movie because we wanted to do a live show in chicago and cover chicago. The was that the reason. I believe so so with all due respect to chicago i could not wait any longer. I couldn't. i couldn't wait another second of course and You know the way things are going right now. Who knows when we'll be performing regularly again so we're doing chicago and so oh my god i okay i can we. Can we like a well. Wait this is a main ups. Okay so this is the back door past. this is our. it's my birthday. I don't have to be good at my job today. Do you wanna take a load off and let me do this so you can. Just sit back and relax on your birthday. My god i'm going to have a sip of lean fu koogle's summer shandy. Oh yummy tad take a swig and i will tell the listeners that what does the show again. We examined movies. Through and intersectional feminist lens using the bechtel test simply as a jumping off point which is of course a media metric created by cartoonist alison. Bechtel sometimes called the bechtel. Wallace test that requires for our specific purposes. Because we've made some slight variations to the test here and there are version is due to people of any marginalized gender have names. They have to speak to each other about something other than a man. Four what is hopefully a meaningful conversation in the movie or work of fiction right and boy as chicago and incredible movie to cover for these purposes. Although they are talking about. I feel like we. We've been adding asks to this test. I feel like there's asterisk canonical e on this show may already exist. That if you're talking about murdering a man who's an asshole it's actually does pass the test. I agree this god that we are condone only murder ordering men but like in the fictional space. It's cathartic okay. This is there in. This movie gets me so bugging pumped for what i don't know but it basically just like any time i think about this movie. I then have to drop everything and listen to the soundtrack on like a three mile. Walk and just be like. Wow how did they do this. How did this come together. It doesn't sound like it should work but it does so good. What do you say that this movie gets you jazzed. It gets me you it gets me. So bucking hyped. And this is the kind of movie i like. This really defines. What makes a movie fun is that you know like when you're i don't know when you really love a movie us like picture yourself as all of the different characters or like one specific character. That one's me in chicago. I picture being all of the care. Like you're just like you've got your days where you're like. I'm being i'm being such an amos today. I'm just getting run over. You have your roxie days where you're like. I am just like living on another planet..
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"Hundreds thousands of guns every weekend. I can't even keep up with the total at it is date but i know at some point. It was up to six thousand dollars. Six thousand guns this year so the guns are being taken off the streets. The ones that are willingly coming off the streets by offering money. I don't see how many more guns off the streets as a result. I think the issue here about getting creative is going back to work. Go back to that area in the city where you have less gun violence and find out what was taking place at the time. The kids grew up in the city on the west side of chicago. I know what kept me out of trouble which was daycare which was after school programs. Things that kept my mind occupied. My friends occupied so that we couldn't get into quote unquote devil moment. So i think that's what a lot is you. Stop the tide of problems of going into gun by then going into gangs. It's you could start with that section. The next section of people were already involved. You need to give them an alternative to what is prompting them to be involved in gun violence. I was talking to father pfleger after the shooting over on sunday nights and just seen just the other day and he said gun. Violence gun are the way we talk to each other now instead of actually having an argument or discussion or a conversation with a lot of the gun with a lot of gun. And that's how the conversation takes place it's time to start hoping to receive the hearts and minds of the people who are involved in gun violence giving them other opportunities and then houston tied but to just give someone money from turning inozyme. We've already tried that. That's gonna turn is done by back. You had a gun violence. I haven't seen that. This is something that chicago police superintendent. David brown presumably got brought up when he went to the white house earlier. This week to ask for more help federally in combating violence in chicago when he came back though he continued to blame judges for that violence. Let's take a look when i know i'm being repetitive. Keeping violent offenders in jail longer will reduce violent. Crime is chicago. So i want to go to you. Maresca anything that you want to add on that we've been talking about it and yet on top of that violence really. You covered one of these mass shootings. Two were five. Individuals shot on wednesday. Believe you covered the one in auburn gresham. So a lot of people believe there's the court single. There's the gangs what is going on here. Because this wasn't a gang related event. Right bret i. I think it's a hodgepodge. There's a lot of factors here. And i think tanya brought up a really good point when i see violence interrupters which by the way that mass shooting was as we know right across the street from the anti-violence organization And something that. I hear across the board is from violence interrupters and people who specialize in these sorts of things. Is we work. They say we worked so hard to tell people to put the guns down and then the hardest part is. What do i do instead. How do i tell people to put their guns down. When i am not able to offer them. Hope that there's another way of life that there's another way of living and so. I think that the difficulty here is everyone. Wants to find one solution or one person to blame or one thing to blame and it's so much more nuanced than that in the hard part is how do you find solution by capping something right now. We're talking about things. Like preventative measures that you wouldn't see the benefits of or effects of for ten years if not longer as children there but i think prevention. I think that's been a huge part that gets missed. You ever while to favor point towards whether it's cook county state's attorney's office or superintendent brown but it's it's so much more than honesty people really wanting a solution in one. If i could add one more thing you know by by bringing in the federal the federal troops in the federal Manpower now transfers cases from the cook county court federal court which has a completely different outcome. You don't have as much leniency. I guess you could say you have harder sentences. you don't get role you don't get home electronic monitoring. The sentencing is different. So you do get though so repeat offenders off the ground and then i mean off the streets now it looks as though oh this is working because now we have federal health. It's a totally different jurisdiction and anybody who's living chicago any period of time. Now it's different when you go to the dosing versus when you go to the lady. Low courthouse house. The outcomes are completely different issue. Here's the issue with that though is. How long will they scan they. We stop federal strike force last year with president trump to have them come during the summer months. Of course that we think they might might be as soon as next week. it is. you know it's the continuation op that it. Certainly that they have an influence in help but is it just sort of a two or three months deal and then we're back to the same issue wednesday leave writing a quick two quick points here any day now for the to see what the what the by. The white house is calling a strike forces coming in on the point of intervention on thursday at the white house. Spirit just a handful of people including a eddie boca. I hope i don't say his name. Petty nagara kaneko wild and this to the white house within just a few weeks and just you. He's a senior director at the heart of lions gun safety program and and violence interruption program and this crime Initiative includes this. He was one of a few people at the white house the second time. A briefing the white house told tommy on things that work. Chicago's went a fifteen cities that are part of this kind of car for intervention policies. So the fighting white house is also pretty. We don't know how much you know some of acids in this putting this do one of the things that many community activists and organizations say could make a difference is community belief in the law enforcement or doing away with it altogether. Some would say so. We are hearing word. Marianne that there a possible deal on the horizon for community oversight of the copd. So what are you hearing in terms of what this would mean for taking away. The mayor's ability to hire and fire or a superintendent. And how week would that leave any mayor absolutely. She's now he's going to have an elected school board. to lose. The authority of a oversight of the day would be really nassim for her and she spoke with bill cameron from wwl radio saying that of course she does not want that to happen. There will be more meetings early next week Did discuss it today. At city hall out of committee of course was not there because i was recruited judge but i did see some of the give and take on it. This is something bad. Roads warmers warmer. You know when she was not running yet but when she was More life would said yes. I want this now the mayor. She's wait a second. I wanna be able to pick will be in charge. That would be huge if she lost that opportunity. That would certainly be vague. And while we're on this note unfortunately we only have about thirty seconds left but marissa. I wanted to see if you can add anything for. Has this ep done enough. When it comes to mental health a third police officer committed suicide this week to say because it depends on who you ask spoke with officers who would say a hard. No on that They say they're stretched in. I think it's something. A lot of us can relate to sometimes ceiling understaffed but was them. They're also putting their lives on the line. And i'm so sorry i'm going to have to end you there because we are out of time. Thank you so very much for all of the vibrant discussion. That you offered lynn sweet marissa. Tara marianne her antonio francisco and that is our show for this friday night. Be sure to join us tomorrow. Night at six. Four chicago tonight. Latino voices then six. Pm sunday for chicago tonight black voices. then we're back at seven o'clock next week.
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"The life expectancy gap between black and non blacks. Chicagoans has widened. That's according to a recent report from the health equity index committee at the chicago department of public health between twenty twelve and twenty seventeen. The gap grew from eight point three years to nine two and that was before the corona virus pandemic which had a disparate impact on black chicagoans joining us to talk about the causes of the gap. And what can be done about it. Are y'all simpson and blair achim epidemiologists that the chicago department of public health and members of the departments health equity index committee blaring. Ya thanks to you both for joining us. So we know that the report found that black chicagoans on average live to seventy one point four years while non black chicagoans live to on average eighty point six years. Blair what are these numbers tell you about health inequities in chicago. Yes these numbers show us that there are a great health inequities in disparities in chicago. Were looking at the lives of black chicagoans compared to non lex chicagoans and so this night white two year gap is really. We identify some of the top drivers of that gap in our report on those being kind of disease i'm hiv and other infectious diseases such as kobe. Opiate overdose. Infant mortality in homicides. And we're and hopefully we can get into those a little bit deeper as well. The health equity index committee team of five black women. We're talking to two of them right now. Y'all what precipitated this research and why did you want to focus on life expectancy. Yes ma'am thank you for having friends with precipitated this gathering if you will this coming because the health department we wanted to amplify our voices as black women. We felt that some of the leadership wasn't reflective of what we wanted to see so by coming together and making this work with health equity index committee. We wanted to deal with the voices and the unique perspective of the black plight specifically in healthcare and so what we wanted to do was provide a voice for us in the vehicle for doing. That is the change you want to see. So we've decided we gotta change some things and that is to have the first data book ever to be referenced for blacks to non black. That has never happened. In two hundred years of the health department and more specifically to have a research change. There was all black women that has never happened in two years at the health department. So that is what has happened. Is we brought this together. In the reason we're using life expectancies because when you have health equity as index you have. We don't have a specific measurement..
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"And thanks for sharing part of your weekend with us on the show tonight in the wake of journalists nicole hannah jones decision to reject a tenure offer from the university of north carolina. We'll talk with local scholars about their experiences in higher education as black women a nine year. Life expectancy gap between black and non chicagoans. We'll discuss why that gap has grown to this point and how it can be narrowed. The renowned chicago sculptor richard hunt and his years. In the making new monument to crusading journalist ida b wells in brownsville equal the playing field for these businesses and the ceo of a local engineering firm gives the last word on what he thinks. The city should do to help. Chicago's small businesses first off tonight. Pulitzer prize winning journalist nicole. Hannah jones made her own headlines last week for rejecting the offer of tenure teaching position at the university of north carolina hannah jones was initially denied tenure for the position by the board of trustees even though tenure is customarily offered for such a jong instead hannah jones announced. She'll be joining the historically black howard university in washington. Dc in the meantime her decision and her words resonated with many other black women in academia who found themselves fighting to thrive in predominantly white institutions. Joining us now with more. Are jane rhodes professor and head of the black studies department at the university of illinois at chicago and valerie. Johnson associate professor of political science at depaul university professors. Thank you both for joining us. So let's start with this eight-page statement from nicole hannah jones. She released about her decision to decline this offer from unc. It reads in part quote. It is not my job to heal this university to force the reforms necessary to ensure the board of trustees reflects the actual population of the school and the state or to ensure that the university leadership lives up to the promises it made to reckon with its legacy of racism and injustice jane roads. Let's start with you. Please did her statement and there was a lot more of it but did what we've heard from her last week. that resonate with you absolutely nicole. Hannah is articulating the challenge for all people of color in academia but particularly for black women. She decided that she had the opportunity to make another choice. And she took it but she didn't have to be a token or to repair a diversity and equity issues at unc chapel hill and that she was going to go someplace where she felt us. Didn't welcome and ready to do her job. The words that she used were celebrated and not tolerated valerie. Johnson how did it strike you. Yes actually when. I read the piece. I i cried because it's so much captured my experience working at a predominantly white institution. At depaul to be honest it is absolutely exhausting. And so while. I have not taken the approach of nicole hannah jones and said okay. It's not my fight is not my burden. I think many half because we know that all systems have rewards and penalties associated with them. And so when you fight back when you push back you are penalized you know. Sometimes your can be impeded. And so i understand very clearly how she said. Well you know what is not my burden to fix the university and certainly she could not do it alone. It takes a village so to speak to change systems of white supremacy valerie. Johnson sticking with you for a second or are there additional burdens that you feel black women in higher education that that you all have to take on well s. The literature suggests on black women particularly in academia. It's almost like we become. The miami's of the university in that use are sort of drawn to us because it particularly students of color and then of course we have to mental her white students as well we take on a large percentage proportion of the service burden and of course as a tool for your often asked to be on committees as a woman as as well as an african american and then it's pretty lowly. We know that only two point. One percent of the nation's tenured faculty are black women. You know if a university get six percent. That is harold as astonishing. And so they're just a number of challenges from climate too. You know microaggressions macro aggressions that. We face daily. Jane roads valerie. Johnson just mentioned you're often asked to serve on boards or committees because you're a woman as well as because you're a black woman do you feel that gender also plays into the the dynamic that you experience in academia absolutely. There are all of these ideas and trump's about black linda's and tom they're really strain and control how people see us and how we are expected to behave. You know we're navigating the angry black woman image where navigating on the idea that black men are not electorally confidence you know. We're a sort of constantly navigated. Mac and their gender in business in the military in politics in academia plays a significant role. There's an expectation that women are supposed to performs reserve feminine roles as valerie suggested as mentor as nurturer as a caretaker But then we're also held to these other standards on in our institutions so it's very much double edged short. What do you feel like you've seen improve over the course of your career joint. Jane roads back to you on that one. Yeah and i've been up a college professor for over thirty years and so one thing that has changed are the numbers is valerie notes. This we're still a vastly underrepresented in academia but in life first job on i was the only black woman on the entire campus on amendment faculty. And that's now become more rarity ice. I've seen generations of young black women both and undergraduate and graduate school move on to become professors and so so the exciting thing is that bears this very dynamic generation of folks who are determined to have a mark and have a place in academia so as a positive change. It's been slow. It's been super mental and it's still not nearly enough and valerie johnson. Why aren't there more. What do institutions of higher. Ed need to be doing to attract more black women into academia. Well they have to be committed. The commitment has to go beyond just the professed commitment after the george flew away. Murder institutions of higher education predominantly white institutions. in particular. You know had they up their purported commitment right but if you want diversity equity inclusion fund it right and so you have to have a commitment. And unfortunately i saying you know even though there has been progress yes. We went from zero percent to two point. One percent as you know african american females at least as tenure professors. But i really do question the actual commitment progress but more work to be done. It sounds like jane rhodes and valerie johnson. Thanks to you both for joining us. Thank you up next. Details on. Chicago's widening life expectancy gap in a row conversation recorded earlier..