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140: NFL Footballs Chicago Cardinals  With Joe Ziemba

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140: NFL Footballs Chicago Cardinals With Joe Ziemba

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We'd have very good equipment. The cardinals at that time. The word class never never came close to us. We rode the train to games. TRAINED TO CLEVELAND TRAINED TO GREEN Bay. Wherever we went it was just a It was not the big league during the nineteen fifties. The Chicago cardinals do produce many victories but they're offbeat and exciting style of play produced plenty of drills and made them one of the most entertaining teams in NFL history. Welcome to good seats still available. A curious little podcast devoted to exploring what used to be in professional sports. Here's your host. Tim Hanley Well God and not forgotten however. And that's what we're here for of course and Way Welcome to the proceedings. My name is Tim Hamlin and this is of course. Good seats still available. It's are are curious little podcast that is devoted to what used to be in professional sports. What a what a quintessential franchise we have for you this week? And and it's also one. That's an incarnation. We don't just focus on defunct things here on this little show. We we like to focus on things that used to be previously incarnated. And that's this week's focus as we get into the original story of what is today the Arizona Cardinals. They got their start way back. When during the founding of this crazy thing called the national football league and they were those the Chicago cardinals from one thousand nine hundred twenty the earliest just days of the the beginnings of the NFL Until their demise or actually their their shift after the nineteen fifty nine season from the great city of Chicago to the equally great city of Saint Louis where they were these Saint Louis football cardinals in their second iteration for bunch years. That's for another show. Oh before they moved to a Phoenix and became the Phoenix and then Arizona cardinals. But if you consider yourself a cardinals football fan you know I I question your sanity was as you look at the history of this franchise one of the oldest and actually I think the oldest consecutively run franchises in all of the National Football League. It's cargo cardinals have scoggins well. A cardinals generally the entire history of the franchise has been. Shall we say Bereft of much playoff or championship. Success matter of fact they've only won a couple of championships and that was years and years ago before arguably the modern NFL NFL sort of came into into being yet. Nineteen forty seven and nineteen forty eight. Were really the Halcyon years of the team. And that's when they were actually located in Chicago and that's kind of our focus this week with our guest Joe Ziemba who has arguably written the quintessential thome about the the Chicago version of these cardinals. Call when football was football the Chicago cardinals and the birth of the NFL and again it is one of the oldest if not the oldest consecutively consecutively run franchises in the League in its history and as you heard in that little setup there pat summerall and a few other players from the Chicago cardinals. Days woeful is a is a good word comical slapstick These are all words curious. Inventive so you know. These are all sort of adjectives. Used to describe this team that For many years actually their entire Most of their run not the entire room but just about all all of it was pretty much played in the shadows of the the bigger stronger and obviously the longer term more successful. Although although this season we could argue the case Chicago bears and the cardinal certainly had their days against the bears They often won a few view. Battles Cross town battles Usually late in the season but of course more often than not lost the the long-term wars when it came to the better record curtain the better attendances and all that kind of stuff to their neighbors From the north and the cardinals though of Chicago were a very interesting and and fun and sometimes quizzical lot. We're GONNA get into some trouble hijinks and the interest interest the interesting intricacies. Frankly If you really go back even to the the AH prior years before the NFL's founding the Chicago cardinals were Oh really Even more important I think than the bears or a lot of other teams even the ones that start in the NFL because they were part of the Chicago football scene gene the pro football scene in in the windy city That preceded the NFL. I remember that You know the the pro football game really wasn't the the thing until not even after the. NFL got started took years to kind of GEL. We talked about many previous episodes. But there were you know much like Baseball in the eighteen eighteen. Seventy eight hundred eighty s the rumblings of how a sport professionalized itself from the ranks amateurs and in particular college football which is all all the rage back in the teens and twenties and thirties took a long time for the NFL to ascend to It's a dominant professional firmament in the sports landscape ended up the cardinals the Chicago cardinals were instrumental in. Very seminal in all of that we're going to get into all of that as well as their shall how we say very curious years in the great city of Chicago with our guest Josie Emba and the Chicago cardinals. 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Cardinals are the latest expression of if a team that essentially has been the longest consecutive running franchise in NFL history. Let's start with sort of from the from the today going backward. How much would you say and I think I know the answer to this? How much would you say the current fans of the Arizona Cardinals and the current organization give sorta proper routes do given the origination of this franchise way back when in Chicago my opinion that a lot of people perhaps know about the Saint Louis version of the team but very few know about the Chicago origination which go back eighteen ninety nine and that's not surprising everything? A lot of people are actually surprised if I use the term again to know the team goes net far back. So it's for the organization itself They're aware of the cardinals. I often see web mentions of the Chicago cardinals but not a whole lot of emphasis. I thought perhaps there might be a a little more this year with the hundred season of the NFL. That I've seen we do have a a facebook site as I've mentioned were people still seem intrigued by the history of the cardinals and so we try and provide them with some bizarre facts and figures going all the way back to the beginning So there is interest in the team the history viewpoint but it's one Perhaps legitimately or not is not really addressed too often anymore. Yeah and I think that's interesting and and it's it's been one the themes that we've sort of unearthed in our conversations to date is is you know the teams that currently exist that that do have roots. Go back and it's interesting to see how oh well embraced or many cases oftentimes whitewashed or forgotten or simply ignored because modern day. Doesn't you have the time or the wherewithal or the the extra work. Perhaps or maybe even some of the skeletons in in in club histories and all that kind of stuff. Because it's all about the future and in and the big business now of it and you know frankly I think it's a shame and I sort of didn't want to sort of put a Downer on it to start but I think it's important for anybody who's a fan of the Arizona cardinals our noses their previous incarnation as the Phoenix cardinals. Or even the previous incarnation of that of the Saint Louis Cardinals that this very deep and rich history and storied did franchise for almost forty years before they even moved to Saint Louis. For God's sakes and that's saying something so maybe you can give our audience. Those these young whippersnappers snappers out there. A little bit of understanding of maybe maybe the primordial ooze from which even disfranchised Kinda got going even before nineteen twenty and the NFL Kinda started kicking around. Yeah we do see where the cardinals will say there since. Nineteen twenty and of course. That's one the first version of the national channel. Football League started the American Professional Football Conference but the team itself goes back to eighteen ninety nine with the first game being played actually on on October Fifteenth Eighteen Ninety nine when the team called the Morgan Athletic Association which we can trace back from today's Arizona cardinals articles of play the game on the south side of Chicago and defeated the Sherman's and the Morgan Just a bunch of Sandlot kids they call. They played pro very football. So it wasn't that a firm organization and just a bunch of kids. They got together to to play some football which is still a new game then I know in Chicago a cargo. The Chicago Public League which was probably the earliest version of high school football. That didn't start until the eighteen ninety s so the game had been more prosperous. Were prevalent in the East and then moved to the Midwest but still didn't get a lot of great deal of acceptance at that time but so we can trace in the main reason for tracing racing. The team is the two brothers called Chris and Pat O'Brien personal brine. I think as the forgotten man of the National Football League he was one of the founders in nineteen eighteen twenty but he was also seventeen or eighteen year old and on that first team for the Mortgage Athletic Association. Eighteen ninety nine MS brother. Pat Was this The quarterback or fullback at the time the formations were a little different. So we can trace the o'briens all the way through to win Chris. O'Brien was one of the founders. What we knows does the NFL and till he sold the team in nineteen twenty nine and of course the cardinals have been with the bidwill families? sincerly thirty so really only three the founders of the team and all those years could say three owners. And that was Chris. O'Brien and this corporation and a guy named Dr David Jones who had the team for about op. Three years before he sold to Charles bidwill whose family still owns the cardinals today. Well maybe you can give are. Is this a bit of a sense of sort of this pre. NFL Pre professional fashionable or or or semi or not even professional kind of mccalla Rag tag. But people need to remember right and we've gone way back into the earliest days as a baseball right which arguably starts eighteen seventies eighteen eighties or so and the rumblings and and the relatively crude way that professionalism came into that game but this we were still decades away or at least a few decades away from true professional football during the early nineteen hundreds where and what was this team kind of playing in and against and whom against in Chicago and environs. The different teams were neighborhood teams and they took their names from the street name in Chicago. So we would I would say see teams called the Westerns the Artesian 's the hall studs and this would be the neighborhood that took their name of their team from that street. I got on there. Were bigger neighborhood. Teams called the Kensington the Grand Crossing Eagles Logan squares from the north side. And once in a while wilder would go over the state line to play you Chicago gophers or a team from Michigan City Indiana. So for a while there was no real formal formal structure of a League till about nineteen sixteen or so when there was something called the Chicagoland Football League which was a loosely knit organization organization of some of these prairie teams. But in the early days it was just neighborhood kids playing each other and what prairie field might be available. There were no stands. The equipment was horrible. Generally the teams would have they would play eleven guys would go both ways but maybe only have two substitutes roots and if they derived any income at all from these Games there was two bets on the side. Where teammate get together? Ten dollars a month All the players and but the other eighteen they could beat them. Of course. We're not supposed to talk about betting football. But that's how they got a little bit of their Their revenue way back when is the team's he's got a little bigger They became part of athletic clubs and athletic clubs again. In the early part of the century were organizations nations that were to provide their members with entertainment. Whether it be boxing matches track meets baseball teams. Football teams answers were very popular. And that's when the Morgan Athletic Association from Eighteen. Ninety nine kind of evolved into the Morgan Athletic Club in nineteen hundred so instead of just having a a bunch of kids playing football for fun they now represented a club. They probably pay dues to this club. The club For example the Morgan Outlet Club Had A headquarters quarters and had to pay rents but drew a lot of revenue from membership fees but from charging admission to their track meets or their football or baseball games so it became a little more formalized than nearly part of the century as the athletic clubs in Chicago at least started playing each other. Yeah that's interesting. So even before a a professional circuit per se right there was at least a bit of structure around how to play. Perhaps maybe even Solidifying some of the early and arguably competitive or challenging rules differences maybe In giving molly kids chance to play but also maybe some of the early rubrics of what professionalism professionalism might look like in the decades to follow. That was true. In fact one of the Kiraly Games occurred me. Get my memory here about the end of November. Maybe thanksgiving of nineteen o four. When the Morgan Athletic Club played a team called the normal athletic club and they rented out what was called Kaminski's Park Not Comiskey Park where the white sox played at thirty ninth and Wentworth and there was one hundred and fifty dollars side? Bet Per team. Mind that so that was big money but they charged admission so they look like they were trying to attract not only fans but also have one hundred. Fifty dollars is a lot of money money back then. So they're taking quite serious at that time but Around nineteen o four or nineteen when that game occurred and we saw more of that where they were getting Hansa bigger venues instead of just playing any empty lot. They're looking for a place. They have bleachers. The cardinals as we know him eventually were playing in a place called normal normal park in Chicago which is at sixty third and racine. There was a baseball field. They put the football field so it went east West Barely made it within the fence and but it was a more formal structure for them to begin playing in. And it's important to understand some of this These early origins because The actual name of the team and their color scheme kind of came from from these early pre nfl days. Maybe you can sort of get into the story of of of how the team wound up getting its name and its its color scheme which is still today. What is the cardinals? Had we think the same colors colors This might sound like some heresy but the name cardinals did not come from a name of Jersey. Which is what our researches found out over the last few years? As when the team with the O'Brien brothers more from the mortgage Athletic Association into the Morgan Athletic Club and that was eighteen ninety nine and nineteen hundred. Nineteen O one. You'll Bryan brothers. Were part of a new club. Call the Cardinal Athletic and social club and it really had nothing to do with the color of their jerseys the the prevalence story is that Chris. O'Brien when was the owner of the team. And he bought used jerseys from Amos Alonzo stagg the head coach at the University of Chicago and we haven't been able to verify five that at all in fact. That doesn't make a lot of sense. 'CAUSE stag hated just hated the idea of someone playing football after he graduated and had nothing to do with these post-collegiate teams and I've even done. Some research into his records at the University of Chicago Library could find no trace of of stags bags selling his US jerseys to a team that was then called the cardinal social and Athletic Club Crystal. Brian was not the owner. He was still just a teenager. Major basically a right out of his team so again. This was a social club or people belonged and They sponsored the team over. There was a high school team which ah done some more research on called Morgan Park Military Academy which was a farm club for the University of Chicago. STAGG would kinda hide some of was promising players there and then bring them over. He hoped coats that team. And if you look at their jerseys they look an awful lot of like Like the University of Chicago Algo jerseys that may have been from a year or two before. A lot of this is available because we see stuff online or we can research it during in some of these archives where we can actually see the photos from teams and compared with their uniforms. Look like so unfortunately The name which we've been came from Chris. O'Brien buying Rangers needs from the University of Chicago. Insane they look like a cardinal rid not true. Sorry that's interesting. That's very say well this. This is why this is why we we kind of want to delve into these things. Because you know I think as people sort of recognize that there are histories here it's also interesting to note that Sometimes and this is why people like you I and others who either armchair or or professionally. You know delve into the history books and then try to get into the stories. You know to know that that you know the Maroon color at the University of Chicago by my proud graduate. School isn't necessarily but it's also I think it also is pretty telling you mentioned stag. I mean it's also I get the sense from what you just said that. That stagg was a little leery perhaps of anything approaching quote unquote professionalism in the sport because it was largely amateur. Sure when he was in his prime right exactly in fact. There's some good stories. Floating around found. A couple of them were some of his players after they graduated were so fearful stag and his influence that they would try and play under. Oh I guess different names or even trying to skies themselves selves. There's one fun story. Were a red haired athlete. Put Shoe Polish into hair and a lot of the guys played without helmets back then so thinking no one would recognize him and report him to stay. Even though he was no longer part of the university everything went along fine until there was a heavy rainstorm during the game and all that shoe Polish washed down this case and uncovered his red hair. And of course I guess it was reported this tag so other players to play under assumed names Even their stories about let's say eighteen ninety nine stay won the National Championship and about twenty five years later they they had a reunion of that team and the players were successful life lawyers and jurists and Instructors etc business owners. They were afraid to have a cocktail and stakes presence because he was against drinking so The influence there was is pretty amazing when you think about it in in how he influenced them Through those years but yeah stay with a totally against any type of professionalism and football well but there was a thriving circuit in Chicago. You hinted at some of it and and maybe you can kind of give us a sense of how important that pre NFL NFL Chicago circuit was in helping even form what became the NFL and the cardinals role in that. Yeah that's true because this Chicago. Football Football League took it quite seriously it for the first time had a more formal schedule before the season would be published in the newspapers. This is about nineteen sixteen one thousand nine hundred seventeen when it was really fully formed. But that's three or four years before the NFL and they would have a playoff system at the end of the season and the thing was nineteen. Eighteen season ended in I shouldn't say ended. But there were four teams that qualified and including the cardinals but then they were called. The racine cardinals are knows. Not After Racine Wisconsin but after Racine Avenue were Christa. O'Brian lived and they had so many tie games. At the end of the season. They play the games indoor but what might be called Dexter pavilion where we might call it. The international amphitheatre later years on the south side near the stockyards and so that playoff They played the cardinals. Played a couple of games and it was interesting because those were probably the first of the professional indoor football all games that were played because of this new league and the rules that had the playoff structure that was implemented yet. Now that's fascinating. I've seen some old pictures of that at and it does let's get dredged up When he talked about Some of those bitter cold games or or building domes and that kind of stuff and even historians I think even get some of that incorrect because it predates even the NFL. or it's a previous incarnation. The American Professional Football Association that that pro. If you will games were being played indoors which is is fascinating to me because I think a lot of people a modern kind of development that frankly was even. NFL that's how that's how integral you know. The the Beginnings Beginnings of of the sport was playing endorse pretty interesting. It is and I'm thinking really innovative. That these teams got together laid out a football field inside the amphitheater. The billionaire and rebel to to have a game I some accounts say the field was only eighty yards long Other say that there was there's rules against The out of bounds because it was so close to the walls but that really has always amazed me that way back then the season would continue and actually ended in January nineteen nineteen that they would have that foresight to go indoors now lead to continue playing and determine a champion but it also attracts them paying customers. That is very well in attracting customers to see those beams doors to spin it. In a more modern round we had the original arena league football founder. Jim Foster on for a couple of episodes a couple years back and it's fascinating because in many respects they were kind of trying to create rules us as they went along. But again you go back. And and obviously it's a more miniaturized and certainly modernized rail but but frankly a lot of the essential components of the game came right are just simply shrunk into a an indoor kind of smaller kind of venue it which again you know another fascinating tidbit. That I don't think today's as modern fan sort of recognized and they think everything that is new is Completely new and in many respects everything old is new again so give me nineteen twenty. Because that's obviously a crucial year and I'm just fascinated. Frankly this is. This is relatively new to me. I mean certainly. I'm very aware of the Chicago cardinals franchise and its its role in in the foundation among the others with creating this. What became the National Football League but I am fascinated? But you've just described to me is how how much Chicago writ large as a city as a metropolitan area and has if you will a cradle of a bunch of professional teams scrounging around around playing even in a pre league kind of environment was to the foundation of this leak In fact it would be first year that league there were four Chicago Chicago teams basically in the League. The Decatur Staley's who were already playing some games up at cubs park before it became Wrigley Field. We had the cardinals. Another team called the Chicago Tigers. And then the Hammond pros which had been around for several years and Hammond which is just across the border so it's it's Very close to downtown Chicago and the Hammond team was one that really help push pro football in the mid West because the owner put together a great team that included George Halas Petty Driscoll and some of the others who became part of what we now know as Chicago Koko Bear's and he paid quite a bit of money. He paid one hundred dollars a game which was pretty much unheard of in nineteen nineteen. In fact I think there are called the twenty thousand dollars football team. That's how much they were GonNa pay that urine salaries so is acquaint startling to the fans that for the first time. Perhaps they're going to see all these college stars on one team and the Ham and of course cross the lines and then played teams in Illinois Ryan and elsewhere. But yeah you're right. There was a great great influence of Chicago in the early part of what we knows the National Football League which is which she's also now interesting as sort of go back to my first question right so obviously people know and revere in this city the bears of course and the stale as being the original name and you know the became the bears very shortly thereafter there was two years after the beginning of the inception of league right. And but it's it's interesting though. How may we consider get into this as as as the years roll on on the bears and the cardinals wind up being the only two if you will? NFL NFL Franchises in Chicago. How I don't know I wanNA say forgotten but almost second class citizenry according to the cardinals cardinals relative to that of the bears in this city? And then frankly In the League as time we're on and you know obviously a couple of relocations didn't help matters but it's really interesting. How how essential? The cardinals were at the beginning of of the League as well as you know they're AH unmatched history in this league. And they're both just as vital to this Very Vibrant Chicago football scene in the early days as here. I'm just interested to sort of see how the cardinals kind of unless they lost their way but got a little less love. I guess or less recognition. Maybe than the bears. Maybe it's because the bears just stuck around forever here. Yeah the bears being around but one of the early things that set the bears apart was when George Halas was able to. I guess build a team that was already there in Decatur. He worked into the contract that the players would be employed of the of the daily manufacturing. So they got paid per game but they're also paid to work every day and he was also able to get them paid while they the practice after work so it was kind of Nice to have a team at that time. There was so organized. And so well funded that they could not only attract people. 'CAUSE football didn't pay for you do it. Just once during the season than have a decent living the rest of the year they all had to have part time. The jobs of course continued probably the forties and fifties for the NFL. But here hell was able to attract players. Make sure that a fulltime job got a little bit extra for we're playing football and Got Paid and to let them take off work to practice. Which I think was the undoing of The sponsorship I should decatur sponsorship fifty years ago but that seemed to allow hell to from the start. Have a winning team in the second year. The League the Staley's wanted and they were able to put together those great teams in the Twenties and thirties and forties A.. Forties with Sid Lutman where they were getting the fan appreciation and they're a game Games were played of course at Wrigley Field. which is more centrally located for folks in the city of Chicago where the cardinals run the south side? You you could ex- excess Normal Park by train and bus of course even when they're in Comiskey Park But it was. It seemed like easier for the fans and for some reason the media as it was at the time there were several papers in Chicago. Hello was a great promoter. Of course He would often literally days right. The game mm story and hand-delivered ski that it was printed the next day so he was very savvy in terms of getting promotion for the team and then in terms of getting people to attend and back then. We didn't have cable television or multimedia advertising you had attendance and program sales and that was about it for bringing income in for the team. So I think probably house jumping in Getting that prime real estate of Wrigley field a very favourable grable rents structure with Mr Wrigley. That enabled him to have a team. That was a good. He was able to track. Good players pay them and then put up winning records and so that was attractive to local fans the nearing that's just seemed to be the basis of why the bears were a little a bit more recognized and have been throughout the years than the cardinals which weren't quite as successful win loss nor an attendant throughout the years while so how did the cardinals establish their fan base. Then so you're obviously mentioning one component of it sort of the north side versus South side kind of thing but and and that sort of the full time employment thing which is striking because it sounds a lot like some of the earliest days of pro basketball. We've we've gone into in the early days of the NBA and the Things of the pre NBA where they were company teams to start with breath and it was. It was company first team play at night and then obviously that Begat a pro circuit over time. But how did the cardinals distinguish themselves as a a viable professional franchise. In addition to the bears I guess for one year even in addition to the Chicago Tigers in the city the attention they they promoted locally Chris. O'Brien was pretty innovative as well. He was one of the first to recognize the value of future generations of fans fans so he would have special Either free days or half price days for schoolboys to attend He recognized veterans from world. War One one established perky lots near normal park so fans could take these newfangled automobiles drive to the game and he also tried to get as best he could Coverage in the media and O'Brien also would be kind of like a salesman he would say. The cardinals played down. In Moline and overnight rock island. He would go there the week before and try and drum business from the local fans and of course the writing that time was extraordinary. We'd hear about the giants Ryan Chicago cardinals coming to lean with several all Americans on the team and we're a little moline doesn't have a chance. But they would build up these versions Asians and stories of the all Americans when it came to Chicago. The cardinals just seemed draw. What normal park on the south? They didn't have a large seating capacity even when they moved to Comiskey Park. They didn't have much luck in filling that place Again when he helps a lot. The cardinals won the championship in nineteen twenty five but then unfortunately was the same time. Red Grange game in the League and so the bears were off filling stadiums around the country and the poor cardinals are trying to get a couple of thousand housing to watch them play Comiskey Park so that was kind of interesting about how the cardinals did try and survive in the thirties. This was after. O'Brien sold sold the team. They actually played their games from nineteen thirty one to nineteen thirty nine at Wrigley Field which left the cardinals at kind of the bottom of the ladder in terms of you've of preferred game days the cubs of course if they had a good season might be playing late into October The bears would have their first choice. Waste because that was their home field and so then the cardinals are Wrigley. Field would have. Maybe they're opening home game in November. I think Vince Bananas A great I because all the guards for the cardinals one said the team tried to move to Wrigley Field where they had all the rich people and we had the when he called the have nuts on the sell all side probably not fair for us to describe it that way but it seemed to be true because the fans of the cardinals would not go north to watch the cardinals plane Wrigley Field. Of course the bears wanted fans wanted nothing to do a sing another team playing and Wrigley Field so that did not last and the cardinals moved back for nineteen forty into Comiskey Park. So lots to unpack there so on that one. That was the Bidwell family when they bought the team in thirty three that they decided that they were gonna try to kind of go upmarket if you will and find out where the where where the money was but that's odd because the city of such a large geography. Hindsight is twenty twenty now right but you know to be the third tenant pennant in you know in arguably a baseball park right. The number two football team let alone not have with another stadium just on the south side I just basically sitting waiting for a winter. Tenant sure yeah and they Just never worked for him but I I guess it was an idea actually. They started a year before. Did well got involved and He kept up with it but the owner. Dr David Jones. He was the city physician for the city of Komo. A Chicago promise that he would bring a winning team to the sell side and made a lot of changes. One of the biggest was bringing. Ernie Nevers I the hall of Famer in to play for the cardinals later coach for the cardinals. He had the first out of town training. Camp and cold water Michigan really pumped up the the team but When attendance was still not very strong He was the one who had the first season up in Wrigley Field. I'm not sure if they signed signed a contract for several years but bidwill certainly had the opportunity to move the team back but but kept them up north and maybe it was because he had a fondness for the beers. There's kind of working for health at one time being a partner with hell listen they pro basketball team to Chicago Bruins Of course this was going on before and during his time as owner of the cardinals but who knows The attendance wise is certainly didn't work all right so before we move onto the ownership changes and and you mentioned that it's important that we go over sort of how it got to the big welfare because it didn't go directly to them as you just mentioned in one thousand nine hundred. Eighty five is an asterisk for sure in NFL. Football history. History right and and I believe I've mistaken the cardinals. I guess almost retroactively claim nineteen twenty. Five is there I ever. Nfl Championship hip. But it wasn't that simple nor maybe even at the time acknowledged as such as a championship team was it yes twenty five was preps the the if not today. It's still is one of the most controversial seasons that was ever played in the NFL and nineteen twenty four. There was a a similar. I'm were thing where a couple of teams claim the title and the owners and their minutes which are available to pro football hall of fame. Put Down certain rules and the rules claim claim that you could schedule any number of games you want it to until a certain day. Let's just say December first December seven. And if you wanted I want to you can keep playing games The cardinals in nineteen twenty five were neck and neck with the Pottsville maroons from Pennsylvania and ahead. What a lot of the newspapers called the championship? Game between the two teams at the end the season Pottsville won that game so they edged ahead of the cardinals and the standings and this is the same time. Now that we're hearing rumblings about Red Green joining the bears and coming to the the NFL So some trains are saying perhaps the cardinals or the maroons. We're trying to finagle a game with red grange and host them and and get the full crowd Some correspondence that indicates that but basically crystal Brian the owner of the cardinals. He really wanted to win the championship. So which which was legal. He scheduled to more games in nineteen twenty five before the deadline was against the a ham and team and one was against the Milwaukee he badgers he won both games. So that's the first part of the story that adds the cardinals ahead of Pottsville by Gamer. So the same time Pottsville. I still wanted to play Much all stars from Notre Dame up in the Philadelphia area. And here's a lot. It gets a little more controversial. Is that the league supposedly told possible. They could not play in Philadelphia because of territorial rights. They wanted to play the game. Anyway and We're then summarily. This is because they were trying to make some the the early part of the NFL. This was also part of sort of revenue generation. Right there was an exhibition. Asa Asa in and around the right accorded regular season right so they would have been okay to play this game anywhere else but they decided to play where they were told not I too. So that's the controversy that that Followers the pottsville claim that they should have won the championship. They shouldn't have been kicked out of the League and that the cardinals all scheduled these two games illegally but it was legal ethical. I'm not so sure But the cardinals then because apostles kicked out were Lee said was awarded the championship to the cardinals. They never claimed it. There was no trophy at the time. And then the story got even a little crazier because when they put the cardinals played the team from Milwaukee Milwaukee came to town. They didn't have enough players so one of the cardinals players. Here's phone some additional professionals who turned out to before high school kids from Englewood High School. So the cardinals then were Brought to the carpet Chris. O'Brien Brian was fined and again what was said at that time. with the cardinals have to give up the championship. They never they never were the excuse that the championship never was taken away from the cardinals so there's still recognize the twenty five champions even though maybe outwardly. They never accepted that until later on when the the bidwill family became involved. So if you're from Pottsville you probably have a good claim that something must have been a mess if your car to stand you. Probably the and rightly so say we. We just schedule another couple of games. Either way it's very controversy on. It's funny even to this day. Still you bring that up among people who do research and there's a a good argument going on as to who is actually nineteen twenty five champion the personal. Brian was certainly looking forward to winning the championship and perhaps scheduling a game or two with the Chicago bears against well. Okay so I guess it's important right because you mentioned in hinted at that. The team was the O'Brien sold the team to to Dr David Jones in Nineteen Twenty nine very interesting year on a writ large basis in this country and frankly the globe then by thirty two was then purchased by a gentleman by the name of Charles. Charles Bidwell will probably want to get into because the bidwell family from from this point on obviously becomes synonymous with the cardinals franchise for the rest of its of its life instill but I. It's interesting that AH AH based on what I've read and you can correct me if I'm wrong. It was only after bidwell became owner of the team that this sort of nineteen twenty five asterisks championship became an issue and were a pursuit of his. To somehow at least lay claim to as their history he went off. Yes and and I think that's accurate The history of it is a little fuzzy as to when and if and why. The cardinals claimed the championship. unshipped that the league basically gave to them and early nineteen twenty six. I shouldn't say gave but recognize the cardinals because they had the better record under the rules at the time and of course today we can't go back and change that type of history or this. We can question the decisions but we can't go back and change it but it does seem around that time that you would see the cardinals claiming that they were champions in nineteen twenty five and some of the programs and other material that went out came and do all right. What's this hellofresh? Hello fresh yes. 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How about tab return to our conversation and I also get the sense that the cardinals also before Even bidwell became owner. Were a little ahead of the curve when it came. I'm too Integrating African American players into their into their mix. Is that right. Oh it certainly is and It was a shameful part of the NFL when there. It wasn't integration there for most of the thirties but the cardinals had a a fantastic player. Name Frederick Slater Duke Slater. All American at the University of Iowa originally grew up on the south side of Chicago. His father was a minister earnings. Just a dominating player he played basically Lia's entire crew without a helmet. He didn't see much use for so but slater Is this year of the National Football League Hall of fame since the National Football. I believe the pro. Football Hall of fame is going to try and recognize some of those folks who played nearly years Hopefully include them in the hall of fame. I Duke Luke Slater's one that absolutely should be considered but Here's an African. American employer played several years for the cardinals started out with I believe rock island before rejoined the cardinals and was dominating tackle in fact one of the oldest. NFL records was established in Thanksgiving Day. Nineteen twenty nine when Ernie Nevers the harden scored all forty points so the cards in a forty two six win over the bears and to this day. That's the most points ever scored by an individual in an NFL NFL. Game and Duke Slater was The primary reason for that that most running plays brand right behind him at tackle and slater was always known for one who would a clear the whole for the runners but yes. The cardinals had duke slater. Another great halfback called Joe. Louis leads the early thirties. was a phenomenal phenomenal runner to receivers well passing wasn't as prevalent as today but Another great player and then those players just disappeared until the forties so in some respects and you may know the history more deeply certainly than I do but people like Duke Slater right seemed to be eh. Almost forgotten in terms of their how pioneering they were I mean he he was arguably one of the if not the standout African American players in the early days of pro football even just slightly before the NFL. I wonder why more hasn't been made of sort of these pioneering efforts especially in light of maybe where the NFL still hasn't sort of you know kind of crossed the chasm on on on integration and and and and and rights. And all that kind of stuff if you believe some of the current players out there they you know there's a lot of disrespect still I think in the community. Yeah nothing would duke slater such a phenomenal. I and two way player for so many years every time you read an article talks about him and what he did in the line and it just He's he's one that should be recognized but I agree yes. Somebody's players and is it. Is it because the writers who covered them are no longer with us and none of us ever saw them play play and so we really have to rely on research to bring these folks back. I guess part of the thing that I enjoy about the cardinals and their players is finding something something that no one perhaps before and to You know publish it however however possible whether in being book form or on our our different sites sites but it just doesn't seem to be the recognition even when you see the seniors who are nominated each year. They're generally the seniors. Perhaps from the fifties he's our sixties for the hall of fame and not those from the twenties and thirties. Well okay so let me let me ask this indelicate question. Then so you're hinting at. Maybe one of the reasons. Why perhaps and Yeah I? This is also part of why we kind of in our own very amateurish way kind of go into this conversation these conversations because there are things that are either lost oeste history or have not been fully vetted or you know that that are living and breathing issues. That could be resurrected and maybe brought to light such as this Not Sort of making a crusade out of this but you know it seems like it's a it's a fairly decent injustice could it be also right besides the fact that early twenties unease and some of it was prior to the NFL's formation and the rules you're talking about we're relatively free form. Shall we say be charitable. Do you think it would have been any different had had slater been. Let's say on the Chicago bears right because the cardinals as we'll get into in a few minutes you know kind of were wayward in terms their on field performance for decades right during and after a bit wells a acquisition of the team. And so I guess I'm just wondering if the cardinals relatively family on remarkable performance in the years that followed in the thirties and the forties might have had something to do with the fact. That Snyder wasn't given any Additional credit because he was on relatively more team. Yeah I never thought of it that way. But if he had been on the bears with winning championships in the thirties and forties he's been playing the forties. But yeah maybe it would have been a little different because after twenty five. The cardinals were not really competitive in a lot of those years so there was no recognition for the team nor for the individual players. You know we have Ernie Nevers. Obviously he's in the hall of fame and the forties. Charlie trippy but in between there. Yeah there's a little bit of a gap and that's the interesting that Perhaps the one loss record of the might have a lot to do with it in terms of recognition. Ignition for some of these players are will tell me about Charles Bidwell. Because I don't want us to start to Pinson blame on the team's performance but he did inherit the team. He did purchase nineteen thirty two. Maybe a little background Charles Bidwell was and and arguably sort of his approach to running the the other team in Chicago in the NFL During the thirties and forties bidwell was a businessman who was involved in printing program. uh-huh some say involved in printing fits for other types of social entertainment but again he was an innovator. He was involved with dog racing racing. He was involved in women's softball. Pioneer there had a team in Chicago. Had his own stadium called bidwill stadium on the South side where the softball team played. And as I mentioned earlier he was partner with George House and pro basketball team at the time he purchased the cardinals. He had to relinquish his share of the bears. And one of the interesting stories of that. Era's when George was bought out Dutch tournament his partner and the bears and they were together from Nineteen nineteen twenty twenty one all the way through nineteen thirty two. He had to meet a certain deadline. And in order to get the cash she had a borough he borrowed from say George Trafton and another hall of Fame Player borrow from George Tripton mother and at the last minute Charles Bidwell gave them my belief five thousand dollars so Halis could make that final payment mint but in order to become owner of the cardinals. BIDWILL relinquish whatever shares and the bears he had or any position He was a secretary secretary and someplace describe or other officer positions and was interesting one of the stories that we hear about it. Well says loyalty to health and the bears because of their business partnerships but when he first became owner of the cardinals the cardinals and the bears play the game and it will forgetting that he was the owner was watching. The cardinals led the bears up until late in the game when the bears scored to win and Bidwell overheard say who that was close. Many clothes for the bears win. Forget he was the owner of the cardinals but that changed. He became very very determined to build a winner. It took a while that when he signed Charlie trippy in the forties. That was the first bonus baby of the NFL trip. You've got this huge contract. Stolen guys were getting. Maybe one hundred ten one dollars a game and Tricky signed for about one hundred thousand dollars for two years. He could've played pro baseball. He could have gone to a new professional league. That was starting with the team in New York. Mr Bidwell had Talk Charlie trippy into playing for the cardinals and it paid off because the cardinals then won the championship up and nineteen forty seven. Tricky being one of the leaders. Unfortunately Mr Bidwill passed away earlier. Nineteen forty seven and nine never saw that championship occur occur but He had been active for many years and different sports activities and the city of Chicago and surrounding areas and so As a businessman businessman. I don't know if he was tight as they. George Halas was rumored to be But perhaps they needed more of a football person person perhaps to attract better players for the cardinals in the thirties. And of course in the forties than the war broke out all the teams lost. Their players to the service is that they were over six hundred thirty. I believe. NFL players We're in the military during World War Two so It was tough to to I guess. Climb that mound develop a championship team championship team in the NFL but Buddha bidwell eventually did that. Nineteen forty seven. Okay I want to get to the nineteen in forty four season in a minute. Because it's a huge asterisk in the history of of you but I want to go back though before we do that. into the remarkably liane remarkable nineteen thirties and early nineteen forties of this franchise. Right what was it about. This team underbid wells management. That just made it so I mean the only I take it. The only had two winning seasons during that period of time and losing seasons for ten consecutive ten consecutive from thirty six to forty five. What was it about this franchise? During that period of time was that the ownership was it mismanagement was it. Bum locked was it. What was it? Do you think that they were so unremarkable. Probably hard to pinpoint one thing might've been a an amazing array of coaches. They seem to change coaches almost every year throughout the thirties. might be one reason. Ernie never ever started the decade he lasted a year then Another Gandhi Maria Anders. Got Involved with Jack. Benny Paul Schindler just the amount of violent CREIGHTON was another one. All these folks were coaching in the thirties. And maybe that had something to do with it The other part my I guess then the talent itself that was on on the field. They didn't have a real superstar back then. I'm reminded a guy named Guston's Lee who came in the league. In the late thirties. He was an end and had had this spectacular performance great statistics and just kind of walked away from football. After a couple of years and again he had other interests or perhaps could make more your money than Playing pro football doing something else but they tried a lot of different things again than to for example. The cardinals were ONE ON ROAD TRIPS TRIPS on postseason tours nineteen thirty four after the season They went out to California and played several games out there and played teams along the way in Kansas City and Tulsa and actually play twenty two games that year which is a crazy so they had a sixteen and six record overall but five and six in the NFL. So you can see the level was extraordinary out the league but inside the league they were just average and except for thirty a five when they were eating forum and Overall six and four in the league they as you mentioned had a tough time being competitive in the national football league and thirty so generally you look at that you look at the coaches The great turnover but also the player. They just didn't seem to have any real big standouts or ones that they could attract act and keep the even for example in the draft started The first draft pick Jay Berwanger from University of Chicago was drafted by the cardinals but eventually musty became property of the bears and he could not agree with Halcion a on a contract and so he never did play pro football so there were some there that either just decided not to play pro football and maybe didn't pan out at the great collegiate career. Not Quite sure but I think the carousel of coaches had something to do with it in the nineteen thirties. 'cause the four we had Jimmy Councilman started out the forties and then finished the forties and gave the cardinals or last great successes team. Before we talk on that I want to talk about nineteen forty four. We had We've had a bunch of conversations around sort of how will world war two nearly sank this. It's national football league but but arguably galvanized it and we had a really good conversation back when we first got the show up and running With our POW MATT algae. Oh who a kind of walked us through the nineteen forty three season of the steagall. These sort of Combo team there but maybe you can give us a sense of how the the cardinals held on in their own. Mash up way with Pittsburgh in one thousand nine hundred forty four. Maybe you can set that because look you could you could look. You could be guilty as I am of looking backward right not there at the time and a armchair amateur historian here. You could look back and go well if there's any team in the history of the NFL that that might be predicted not to make it through a crisis like World War Two you could have imagined the cardinals being perhaps that franchise. But that's not what happened. What happened in forty four forty four when it became? Obviously you see that. So many players were in the military. The bears the colonel. I proposed the league this after the struggles. They propose that they make one Chicago team. It seemed like would be beneficial to both teams the north and the South side would be united in Chicago would have one pretty good team. And that's so I guess how the other NFL owners fell to. They decided that that would be too strong. A team and voted it down so the bears kept going on their Own whereas the cardinals as you mentioned Merged with the steelers I know as Mr Rooney the owner of the steelers then called it the worst team ever in the history that you the national football league. They lost all their games. Yeah big their own ten and They were nicknamed named carpets pits cardinals. And the Pittsburgh steelers which the Chicago Tribune eventually evolved the tar pits into the carpets. And why not because every team walked all over him just like a carpet and so that was the result that team but it did keep both of those those teams teams alive. They're still with us today. And I think it was instrumental in preserving the league as well as preserving the Chicago cardinals franchise that you know there were some good Games James The cardinals thing drew our pitch drew over forty thousand in New York for game with the giants. They had thirty five thousand in Washington for game with the Redskins back. Home wasn't very good Game with Cleveland Home Game only do thirty five hundred so there were definitely drawing better in the area and east coast than they were when they had the home games which pretty much all took place At the end of the season they had three or four games in a row that were played in Chicago Hogle In fact one game. That was a home game with the bears was in Pittsburgh so They lost that one as well. So the the card fits. It's played the bears in Pittsburgh and law STA forty nine to seven. Only nine thousand people showed up for that one. I'm actually not. Many people would actually admit that they actually went to of that game. I guess so. One gets the opinion that you know I. It almost feels to me. And you mentioned bidwell relationship obviously with the bears years prior before getting this franchise which is it almost feels in some respects that the NFL almost kind of collectively needed this team. To at least survive is certainly if it wasn't gonNA Compete for championships or or be hugely competitive or whatever but it almost felt like it to the franchise was almost you know Crucial to sort of of at least be in the loop so that the League can sort of continue on with with as many franchises as it had I mean is that a fair assessment because if it does feel like this his team you know from the League perspective was and we'll get into the fifties in a minute but I don't want to bypass nineteen forty seven which we'll get to but it does feel like it. It was almost expected that this team was just going to be hanging around. It wasn't a bad thing for them to be hanging around but maybe not much more. Yeah and I think even earlier ear BIDWILL was perhaps looking now. Here we go on I. Am I going to say that. They WANNA did well in the League or they wanted to cardinals. 'cause I know Even back in the late thirty especially nineteen forty. They'd played a Texan Bishen game or a game in buffalo where the team was supposedly looking for a different location location. If they're ever GONNA move again we don't have TV contracts so They wanted to move. They could certainly move. But it just seems like The cardinals finals always seem to find a way to survive another season and that started occurring After the war of course when they had the little better teams than attendance. It's really did start picking up for them even at home in Comiskey Park but I'm wondering if how serious bidwell was when he started looking looking around and playing some home games. Different areas. Buffalo was one If he was really content to stay in Chicago to me yeah I think he was. I think he would just looking for a way of maybe having a Gamer so elsewhere to pick up the GEICO because he had all his business interest in his family was in Chicago of course so The League itself seemed to be comfortable with having few teams in Chicago when there were no other cities with with two teams in it and also also does seem to help the with the bears and the cardinals and they played cutting down on travel costs which were still a concern during the war so I I think I agree with There was some feeling that there was hope that the cardinals would survive in continuing Chicago. Are Well explained to me. Nineteen forty seven because it seems to be the ultimate of outliers in the seasons played by the Chicago twelve before and after this one thousand nine hundred ninety seven season now. It didn't still still result in the championship. But it's arguably perhaps one of the more notable among not many years of the freight this franchises long-life life. Yeah and after the war of course all the NFL teams had their draft choices. They had to returning servicemen. They had the graduating college seniors. Ears and so there was a lot of town floating around the National Football League and the cardinals During the war with the carpets they were winless of course and and then the nineteen forty five one game so Jimmy Councilman. Who was the coach in the early forties? He came back after the war for the nineteen forty six season and promptly. Turn them into a winning team that that much more. They're six and five in the League but still a winning team and more importantly they were drawing crowds Think again fifty thousand or so in New York they were drawn over thirty thousand for a lot of their home games with Green Bay. A and of course the bears Do about almost forty thousand and so the the start of a winning team and with all this talent on on board It was hosted. The cardinals would again probably Jones the bears. It seemed like they were still interested in beating the bears more so than winning and yet NFL championship. But Mr Bidwell of course looking to win the NFL in forty seven was marked by a lot of talent really coming together. They had the dream dream backfield which was the first time there were four all Americans from college in the back field of a protein with Paul Christmas Missouri Pat Harder Wisconsin John Marshall Goldberg from From Pittsburgh I'm Charlie trippy from Georgia. Then Goldberg switched to defense and Elmer things men from Notre Dame came amen and played offensive halfback but they had great linemen. some who had played with the cardinals before the war. And we're really a strong team but it's still that season as an came down to a final game. The nineteen forty seven against the bears. One of the cardinals pulled out a trick play to win their division championship Defeat the bears before if almost fifty thousand Chicago so that was Kinda the first time in modern history at that time where the cardinals were the superior team to the bears and Forty Eight Forty seven the cardinals did win the championship when they beat the Eagles at Comiskey Park Cardinals. A bit of a advantaged by putting putting a gym shoes or tennis shoes on to play in the icy conditions and the Eagles did change but later at halftime but sleep but the cardinals won that game and then and then forty eight was in my opinion. The best cardinals team ever there are loving and wandering. The League went to Philadelphia to play for the championship teams and was a horrible snowstorm. There's been lots of stuff written about that By how deep the snow was there was some concern and that perhaps the game should have not even been played but the Eagles won seven nothing when there was a fumble by the cardinals deep in their own territory late in the game and after that the cardinals China went downhill but that forty seven forty eight season. We're remarkable in terms of dysphoric significance for the team. Well forty eight was also the I An NFL championship game ever televised. I got maybe that was had a little bit of a right early early media pressure to play that game but okay so despite that sort of a Lip I guess in history. So something else. Very dramatic and important happened around that time too. And that was the passing of Mr Bidwell Al and so what happens to the team and its ownership then and setting the stage. I guess for the fifties which didn't improve things very much did it. Yeah when Mr Bidwill passed away early. Nineteen forty seven and his wife. Violet was then basically the owner of the team She brought the guy named Walter Wolf Ner who was supposed to be making the football decisions but he wasn't a football man and some of the surviving players. I talked to over the years. Were kind of angry that he was making decisions that they did not agree with at the time. And I think that kind of led to the team's downfall after the nineteen forty eight season and so there was a a bit of internal conflict. Bidwell sons were not quite old enough although they were involved with the team back then in and forty seven so Mrs Bidwell was basically the owner at the time but wolf ner Kinda call the shots and representing the team at the League meetings and Wolf Ner. Obviously well that's obviously was a businessman. Pretty much centered in Saint Louis which is important in a few moments right because I so describe to me though the rivalry if any with the Chicago bears right. I mean you're you're mentioning maybe not not to unimportantly the idea that the bears we're more of a fixation for this team than maybe trying to go for an NFL championship but this is also the time. When the all America football all conference had a team in Chicago against all the odds as well the rockets I mean you would think that the cardinals in their relative Secondary Status I guess relative to the bears would be a warning sign for any challenger League to put yet another pro team in town too so I guess you throw those three teams during the course of the the late forties into the mixing bowl. How good the cardinals even compete? Let alone with the bears in the NFL. How how can they also compete with this challenge of the Chicago rockets? It doesn't seem like it's a it's a recipe for success. No there's just so many dollars that could be available. Oh for football teams to secure from their fans and now we have all of these three teams and don't forget got Notre Dame not too far away in northwestern Western Illinois All these teams attracting looking for the attention of the fans so it was not a recipe for success for at least one of them The bear seem to survive. Okay The cardinals and the rockets had A little bit more difficult time but I think the fact that the bears and the cardinals history went back so far to nineteen twenty and the oldest rivalry in the NFL that that probably vans trusted that that that product was going to be different. From what the rockets were putting on the field although from what I've heard Of course some of the teams that survived that League football and We just know that the cardinals probably were fighting for some of the same same fans that they were. Well I I just wondered because it may have been hastened perhaps their demise. Because let's let's let's be made round third base here and slide into home nineteen fifties right just completely lately. I mean I don't think there's any other way to put. It was frankly woeful for the Chicago cardinals franchise but it's also interesting too because not only were they sort of underperforming forming on the field. They're still a team in this now. Strengthening National Football League and it did attract attention from outsiders. There's who perhaps saw this as one of the weaker links in a strengthening league that perhaps could be purchased and or Rehab or removed. Or whatever maybe give already it's a sense of sort of how the bid wells were looking outward. Perhaps that perhaps they knew they had something in this franchise but maybe maybe it wasn't to stay in Chicago. And and and be you know a under their their ownership. Yeah what did you in the fifties. We heard a lot of rumors. There's about places like San Francisco and Dallas and Buffalo With individuals trying to buy the cardinal that was out there in the press that the cardinals were just frankly inevitably deigned move at some point. Yeah there were rumors of the cardinals moving nearly fifties. I've seen in some of the old newspapers where where they of course would deny it and wolf never had a famous pledge that the cardinals are part of Chicago they will never leave Chicago So that was quite interesting. The team was struggling. They made the I don't know dubious decision to hire curly Lambeau. Coaching nineteen fifty hoping that curly after all his success in Green Bay could duplicate that success on the south side. But it didn't happen and so. We're the bears drawing thirty thousand fans per game. The cardinals all still had a few games. Where they're at eleven thousand nine thousand for their home games so without revenue from any place else? That was difficult. Television was starting earning become available but not yet a big revenue maker for the League. So I think the cardinals in the fifty S. If I'm not mistaken was probably the worst reforming team in the history of the own of the NFL over a decade and so the rumors were out there that perhaps the bidwill family and Wolf ner might be interested in moving or selling. The other thing is television became more popular we had the blackout rule whereas if one team was playing on the road and the other team was at at home you could watch your favorite team That certainly heard in fact when William Bidwell passed away recently when I was doing research for my book he was pretty secure and confident saying the cardinals moved because of television that with the blackout. Rules essentially the leak head enforce that there wasn't GonNa be any any revenue and in town for the cardinals at the time so there were a lot of rumors. San Francisco was one that I saw numerous times that they were thought thought to be purchased and moved and a couple of times the Wolf ner was an agreement to sell the team but wanted to still maintain at at least part of the ownership or even a majority part were to the incoming owners didn't want to invest forty nine percent of the team and not have really a a vote in the matter so the team was struggling on the field off in terms of finances. Mt Stand's empty seats in stadiums and fifty eighty nine. Of course they moved to soldier field which is a bad shape at the time. Nineteen fifty-nine the team actually played two games in Minneapolis. So we're home games and drew pretty well. Drew drew over twenty thousand fans But again looking at the writing on the wall didn't seem like there would be a future for the cardinals as much as a lot of us would wish they had held Donna and stayed in town until that revenue would kick in from TV. Yeah at Minneapolis is interesting because that was also part of I think The original battle the plan for the fledgling American Football League. So maybe you could sort of get it. I mean we've talked a lot about Lamar Hunt on this show by extension people like Max Winter and bob how how some an Bud Adams and and the beginnings and the ongoing nineteen sixties of the AFL but in some respects maybe many respects without the bid wells and And Wolf ner kind of during demurring on being acquired wired in terms other than their own. You could make the argument that the cardinals were one of the reasons if not the reasons for the foundation of the AFL. I firmly believe that the other cardinals are so close to be sold around that time but again since the terms could not be agreed upon Huntington his partners went elsewhere looking and and started the other league which to be successful. So what are the NFL. Do though. So this is interesting because it seems like the move then to Saint Louis was relatively hasty and frankly again looking back in time you may know more that without the AFL's arrival and the threat of them looking at markets like Minneapolis and Saint. Louis That you know it just seems like the NFL. All of a sudden took the threat seriously and almost rallied the The League around how do we save the cardinals and and make it Beneficial for not only the bid wells but also for us as a league in a in the face of this threat from this new challenger and I think you you hit it right ahead where they did get noticed. In fact one of the things was that The other league was dying buying St Louis as a possible location for team and so Maybe that was the reason they move rather quickly did take everyone by surprise and Chicago Look back in the newspapers. We didn't see much about them. Moving the Saint Louis at that particular time of year that quickly and the fact that the league with apparently or rumor has the george shells paid some of this gave the cardinals a half million dollars a lot of money back in March of nineteen sixty to move. But yeah those are. The League was looking at St Louis. the television prominent Chicago so it seemed like the League could save the cardinals as well. So the League itself continue against this new formed opposition By securing Saint Louis and then continuing with the League and The cardinals continued operating except in a different location. Okay so we're not going to get into the St Louis Part of the story because that's for another time another situation another incarnation but one last question Russian on that in that sort of moved to Saint Louis how in the world do they wind up holding onto the cardinals name given that the baseball cardinals had had been there for many more years prior. I can't imagine what kind of confusion there was and or or am I just or was it just a natural sort of thing and it seems it seems crazy to me that you would move team that also has the same name as the baseball team in the city You're moving to yeah. It does seem odd a couple of things on my point out when hatless move the STALEY's to Chicago. I believe he writes in his autobiography. He also wanted to call his team. The cubs out of respect for Mr Wrigley but knowing that football players are bigger than baseball players. I see decided to name them the bears. So that's one story maybe They thought the cardinals name would be the same in honor of the Saint Louis Baseball cardinals and the other thing might be that the cardinals themselves with Wolf ner and The biddable family would say we WANNA keep our name People confuse them but it was kind of odd. And it's still out to people when you mentioned that they played their with the Saint. Louis Cardinals Baseball team. No no no. It was a football team so I haven't build a figure that one out yet very interesting all right well. So let's let's put this in context and I kind of started out with this question. I'm going to ask the same question again. But maybe sort of in a different manner right so you know again this is. This is the longest consecutive lasting franchise even it arguably before more than the founding of the National Football League and it's also perhaps maybe I guess in Longitudinal terms perhaps the most unlucky perhaps or or under performing franchises in the League's history Yet it's it's essentially important and crucial to the fabric of this league right. It's been around since its beginning while it hasn't won a ton of championships or you know other sort of you know a haloes of of success. It is part of a league that is just Gargantuan in terms of success these days and I guess you I wonder how and when you know more recognition of that history albeit not tremendous is at least recognize is because without you know without these early formative years there would be no cardinals in this beautiful facility in Arizona and you know and and in the the the desert southwest having their pro franchise and it is it is kind of amazing when you look back at it now and no team wants to lose. Everybody wants to win especially especially now under so much pressure on every coach and every team to perform any kind of look back and say well since the Chicago cubs won the world series three three years ago the cardinals since they wanted. Forty seven are the oldest major sports team not to win a world championship so to speak in terms blink year so the the colonel's unfortunately have that distinction now and it just seems like yeah that that the team hasn't been quite as successful in the number of championships say compared to the bears but then maybe bears fans are upset because they only won one championship in over fifty years. So it's Knocking knocked off all that far out but the history of the teams the bears and the cardinals. The cardinal specifically is something that really should be embraced it from you go back to when these players were playing often for no money or for twenty dollars a game and one come out of the game Even if they had a broken finger broken hand A lot of players get seriously injured. Not so much from injuries from getting hit but maybe 'cause they're planning horrible fields and they you got cut by a dirty piece of glass and so it's the realistic the realism. I guess what they went. Through those years I really wish would be recognized a little better by by the modern teams and cardinals certainly deserve any kind of recognition they could get for surviving living for now What is it one hundred twenty years since that first game and The traced back to Chris and Pat O'Brien back in eighteen ninety nine and certainly their story. Ah deserves being mentioned. I'm also hoping that mentioned Duke Slater and hopefully for recognition. The whole thing. But I didn't Chris. O'Brien deserves some kind of recognition as well He not only was one of the founders of the League but he also Allow the bears to come into Chicago because of territorial rights way back when so it was Interesting about all history. That's there and some of US trying to keep it alive and hopefully that'll be recognized. I think it is a little by little but We hope that that will continue to do so next year. We celebrate a one hundred anniversary of the NFL. Not just one hundred season all right. Here's my last question. So so this team winning outright a championship in nineteen forty seven their last one and a disputed one in nineteen twenty five. And that's it right. Yeah so what makes this franchise I in its Chicago Interational. So interesting to you. Why why? Why the focus on it? What what what got you interested in becoming an expert and you're an authority on the Chicago version of the of this arguably Ghibli almost forgotten team may interest in the team began kind of an oddly? I knew my father was a good football player and after he passed away many years after he passed away. I had a box of his stuff in there. I found that he had a contract from the Chicago cardinals. Back in the forties and that contract paid him one hundred ten dollars a game provided he had to bring his own shoes and shoulder pads he got hurt and training training camp and decided he can make more money. Coaching High School football that he could make a play professional football and always done that. So Ironic I wanNA find out more. Why did he accidentally but probably would have been a got hurt and training camp today would have been a simple arthroscopic surgery but He passed away fairly young so I was never able to ask the question so I wanted to go back and research and my thought was just at first to find out what happened to him which turned out to be kind of positive. 'cause a couple of the players from that era. Remember him when I tracking down but I found out then there really was no written history of the cardinals and then decide to write a little bit about the history. Any was GONNA do a book that ended in Nineteen Forty seven and a wonderful publisher triumph books in Chicago. Who suggested well continue the book up until the cardinals leaving? Nineteen nineteen sixty which I did and so We we completed that book but It always seems now as I go through stuff and as we talked about earlier did that. So much of the cardinal system is wrong and that's no one's fault it's an picked up year after year after year if you go to the cardinals website or even the hall of Fame News website. They'll have information. How the cardinal started? That was wrong and a lot of information came after Chris. O'Brien original owner passed away. The cardinals themselves started. I'M GONNA use this word trading their own history not too far off Chris. O'Brien was involved but he certainly was not the owner of the team back when he was seventeen or eighteen. Eighteen years old and so part of this has been My own edification to find out what the history was and To can you to continue to research on this team is history has become so important. The National Football League and and I think a lot of it goes to pro football hall of fame now has its library. which is fantastic and the people are treating? The history of the League is a serious subject. So I'm just trying to make my small contribution would start out trying to find out about my dad and then it it kind of Expanded to find out the true history of the cardinals and so we'll plan on continuing to do that. The future but that's my simple but true crew store cardinals fans in Arizona and and otherwise if you grew up watching him in Saint Louis and if you're old enough to remember them in their original incarnation coronation as the Chicago cards by all means you over to yourself to get a copy of Joe's book it is called when football was football the Chicago. Oh cardinals and the birth of the NFL is published by triumph and is available of course for you to purchase many copies of at our website at good seats still available dot com. 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BTSC Radio Wire: Bryan Anthony Davis joins CBS Talk Radio to talk Steelers vs. Eagles

Behind the Steel Curtain

12:37 min | Last month

BTSC Radio Wire: Bryan Anthony Davis joins CBS Talk Radio to talk Steelers vs. Eagles

"If one of the hardest things to figure out these days is what to watch next first of all congrats second of all, you check out. HBO? Max Discover something new to watch on Hbo Max like lovecraft country. The new HBO series from Jordan Peele Meka Green and J.j Abrams that's got everyone buzzing plus HBO. Max is the only place you'll find new binge. Worthy. Max. Originals like Selena Gomez, new cooking show you heard that. Right, Selena Gomez learning to cook from some of the world's best chefs no less find your next favorite all in one place on Hbo Max Starts. Dreaming today download the APP or visit Hbo Max Dot Com to start your free trial this afternoon gorgeous foretold, and more time to talk Pittsburgh steeler football with Brian Davis. He is with behind the curtain fly football analyst. For Gordy, sports full and more. It's good to have you, Brian? My friend, Gordon. Thank you a top of the afternoon to you. Also, before we get started, you had some exercise earlier today chasing her around a dodge from that you take care of. I mean, we are a dachshund family. We've got we had to named after steeler of course, the now our other ones are named after the Harry Potter Franchise but We also have a doggy daycare for one that we watched another one and the puppy, and she's really fast. It was Kinda like that gene from rocky to and Mickey is introducing the chicken the rockies workout, and he has to feels like the Kentucky Fried Idiot and he's running around he's trying to catch this this chicken that's how I felt chasing a dog and. I realized how out of shape I am and how fast. This Dogwood little legs actually. Again this fits in. So well, with yesterday, we had been at Chicago, Charlie's and home of the quarter Pan beef dog across and Sunshine Lane, Route Sixteen Waynesboro. So Daschle's hotdogs this worked well. Absolutely We are GonNa Talk Pittsburgh steeler football and you have a game. From this team on the other side of the Commonwealth. With, the Philadelphia Eagles one o'clock on Sunday before you give us your specific analysis roach, your overview of this game. I tell you want any time that the steelers play the Philadelphia Eagles it is going to be a challenge I. don't care how depleted that team is if you look at it in the history of this, this rivalry did it's twenty. The steelers have only one twenty, eight times. Now on the other side of the coin, you have have affiliate Philadelphia. Eagles who have won forty eight time. And there are three ties may extend. So they're twenty games above five hundred. Now, a lot can be said about that. You know you know pre pre war pre merger they played all the time the feelers were sent back. So you gotTa be thinking. The steelers have probably done so much better against this team since the merger in the last fifty years with no, the steelers have the worst record more than anybody against the Philadelphia Eagles in the entire league. So they are for an eight since nineteen sixty-nine, the year that shuttle came in and I call that the modern era of the Pittsburgh steelers. So this is always a tough time. I'm just glad this game has done in Philadelphia Gordy because the steelers have not won in Philadelphia since nineteen, sixty five. And led a share that during the war, these two teams did literally become one team and that is very nice. Of Nineteen, forty three year on this I didn't get a chance to finish steph. Client analyst you did well. I apologize but you know what? I can go one step further. So the next year. The steelers merged with the Chicago cardinals and they were hit card in nineteen forty four and there's something to be said about that that the the steelers, all art rooney almost moved the steelers who really weren't the steelers pack that well, they actually they wear the field is me but almost move with the steelers in nineteen forty, three to Baltimore. Very interesting. So that's something to go ahead and look up because that's something that I just came across recently but as far as the steelers and Eagles go. It's the Pennsylvania State Championship. It's not a true rivalry because they play every four years. But when you sheriff State Gordy, it's a pretty big deal. So these teams definitely want to beat each other we almost had. Tre. Keystone state. Super Bowls in the last twenty years or so in two thousand four, it almost happened the steelers lost in the AFC championship game in two, thousand eight it almost happened when the Eagle Gloss in the AFC championship game. So if They've been flirting with a meeting in the Super Bowl and I don't think. I would enjoy anything more especially because that would be a neutral fill field and not in Philadelphia building that's going to happen this year but steelers eagles. It's always something that I'm mark on my calendar. You throw the records. It's like a division game for the steelers anything can happen the seemed to play up. Each team plays up when they're playing the other. It is nice for you to give the statistics a family ties Philadelphia. As beaten Pittsburgh, we're GONNA call them the battles. You've won the war as you're the super. Bowls. Well, that's true. But you know how that that's scripted easily easily be flipped. The last of these two teams win a super bowl has been the Philadelphia Eagles. Let's talk a little bit more indepth now you being behind the steel, curtain? Of what the steelers need to do to win and how can the Eagles possibly win? Okay the late Dallas, drake, the wide receivers coach the passed away last year. He had a phrase put it in the t shirt. It was called shut up the noise and there's been so much noise surrounding the impromptu by week surrounding Kobe. Feelers should there be a forfeit because of the Tennessee titans they don't need to think about any any of that when Mike Tomlin comes out and says, thirteen games in a row, we don't care that means a lot 'cause they don't care. All they're focused on is playing football. If they shut out the noise that is the number. One thing when you're playing the Philadelphia Eagles, you've got to think of a few. Things yes. They're battered and beaten. Their offensive line has had a lot of troubles they've lost Jason Peters. Lane Johnson has been hobbled game Jordan Malaysia as you're left tackle, there are some hold on that offensive line. The healers seven is very good but look across the board I think you could safely say that the strength of the Eagle would be their front seven, the steelers and Ben Rothlisberger are still having nightmares Of one Mr Fletcher Cox and another Mr Brandon Graham from four years ago. They might have some more age on them but they are still wreck involved and they could really record game look kind of guys that for so many problems and that's thirty four to three win just four years ago against the steelers Ben has never done really well against the eagles especially in Philadelphia Luckily once again, this is in Heinz field, but they can wreck your game and if they can get to the quarterback and the offense of Lenin the steeler Kim not keep these guys at bay, it could be a script flipper it could be something that could really mess up the steelers day gory. Let's talk a little bit more about the quarterbacks Rothenberger Wentz? Look Carson Wentz there hasn't been a lot of criticism about him since the injury that took him out of that super, Bowl. Season some people in Philly thing but he isn't the same but I look at the fact that he still has a great body of work. He's still can kill you at any time. There's a lot of pride to this guy if you flush out of pocket, he becomes more dangerous especially when he throws the ball to his running backs or his tight end tight end Zach Ertz has some years autumn. steelers do not handle the tight end especially bigger guidance end Zach. particularly. Well, this is a matchup to really look at Carson Wentz. I. Don't think he's done yet and I think if you ask him, he's like, Hey, bring the disrespect I don't care. I. Am going to show you what I can do if you pick this guy lightly he's going to be dangerous gordy. So I'm worried about Carson went on the other side of the ball you have been rothlisburger who really is having a great start to the. season seven touchdown and one interception. That's a big deal because you saw him in two thousand, eighteen have over five thousand yard but sixteen interceptions way too many. A lot of them were forced into Antonio Brown. He has the benefit of having a very young receiving core that are hungry that are very unselfish that when one of the guys go out that the others the step up so I think that's something great and you don't have to worry about. Any of them saying you have to force the Balmy I, need my stats. You don't have that Ralph's Burger is definitely the field general and he is a renewed man and here's something that I just found out last night watching the watching the Chicago bears take on the Tampa Bay buccaneers and it was this after the game they were talking to Terry Bradshaw who was previewing the fact that he has an interview coming up with Ben Rothlisberger on Sunday on the pre-game. Now, what is so important about that is those guys have networks seen AIEDA. Period. Bradshaw was talking about how excited he was to This interview and how he told Ben that he can't wait to get back, get back to Pittsburgh and meet up with them. So there is a renewed respect for those two who have been rivals since Ben has come into the League and now you have the fact that that's just further evidence. Gordy. That ben is a changed man he's focused on what is important as light. These also focused on Lee's leading the team to another championship, and even though the rivalry with bradshaw might be a little bit at at bay now and that's fantastic. Don't think for a second that Ben doesn't WanNa get Super Bowl number three and number four to match Terry Bradshaw. Pressures on who wins in a score. You know what I I really think that Philadelphia can be a dangerous team here I. Still Don't think that they have enough I still think Pittsburgh is a very focused team right now they gonNA prove that their focus coming out of this impromptu by I'm going to say the feelers going to win it. It's not going to be a cakewalk though if you've ever been to a cakewalk. You know that everything's free this is not going to be free. They're not going to just win my showing up. The steelers have to earn his game. I'm GonNa say Twenty Six sixteen in favor of the Pittsburgh steeler the Philadelphia Eagles leaving this game with a lot of pride. Ryan Davis. 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From the Bleachers #37: Long Live the Steagles

Bleeding Green Nation

29:36 min | Last month

From the Bleachers #37: Long Live the Steagles

"If. One of the hardest things to figure out these days is what to watch next first of all congrats second of all, you check out Hbo Max Discover Something New to watch on Hbo Max like Lovecraft Country The new HBO series from Jordan Peele, Meka Green and J.j Abrams. That's got everyone buzzing plus Hbo Max is the only place you'll find new binge. Worthy Max originals like Selena Gomez new cooking show you heard that right Selena Gomez learning to cook from some of the world's best chefs no less find your next favorite all in one place on HBO. Max Starts Dreaming Today. Download the APP or visit Hbo Max Dot Com to start your free trial. A. Just. Bush. Why? Does this strange Welcome to from the bleachers. I'm your host as always shameless clancy come into from the wonderful bleeding green nation radio podcast network. Now, I am certainly certainly. Better than I was last time we spoke eagles win. Wasn't Pretty Carson. Winston play fantastic play with a lot of heart. Through some ducks but the. I don't know what's GonNa. Happen. Sunday. We'll get into next week's podcast I gotTA show plan for us today. But let's see how about the team next week. Happy with Jordan a lot of happy with Gerard Avery coming on that food's got some juice. Josh Wet newest Favorite Eagle on the team that defensive line is fierce Maliki. Jackson. We were missing him all last year with the way he's played through the first quarter of the season. Yeah, a big freedom signing last year missed essentially the entire season after that injury in week one at home against Washington. But right now that guys looking like you know exactly exactly what the Eagles signed him to be last offsides. Couple housekeeping notes, big housekeeping Guy Gin, shame clan. You can follow me on twitter and Instagram at shameless underscore clancy. You can check out my Philadelphia's sports newsletter on Patriot Patriot Dot, com backslash shame as score clancy. And Right now I'm sipping on a fantastic to Robert shelter to robbers craft hard seltzer. Right here Philadelphia Company would you love more than that? Have a nice pineapple ginger one I'm a big seltzer guy maybe my favorite seltzer out there. But because of that, you should file at leading green instant on instagram. That's the BGN instagram that run tons of Great Eagles content on there and I'm guessing you're listening to this on Thursday or Friday recording Wednesday night. But tomorrow, Thursday, we are doing a giveaway with two robbers offices in South Philly. I'm a South Philly Guy. It's a match made in heaven giving away swag doing little contest on their follow us like post. Tag Three friends that whole deal will give you tote bag shirt pint glasses, stickers whole nine yards. CHECK US out there checkout to Robert Saulters. Every where in Philly Acne know your local beer store. I love it. It's what I drink during eagles. Games that have been all season not be check me out on instagram live whether it's the BGN channel or my own our B seven onto robber seltzer. Today I'm GonNa take a little bit of a break from my over the top emotion and those types of things where I fre- out team are way way way too excited. Before I get inevitably letdown crushed by this team I dedicate so much time. Now, I consider myself until twenty six amongst eagles fans in my age range someone who has a greater appreciation for not just the history of the eagles but the history of the sport itself, my favorite sport football the National Football League. I rating sports, books, I mean obviously, I was an English major love novels love nonfiction books of all genres. But. Sports Books Been Randoms Biographies Historical outlook. I love it. I love up. So one thing I wanted to talk to you about today. The Eagles I said are playing the steelers on Sunday. and. As a lot of eagles fans no. In World War Two for a single season the Eagles in steelers merged their teams in nineteen forty three because of the lack of eligible players to play in the NFL at that time. Due to all those. Players who would have normally may play the NFL given their age in physical profile were overseas fighting Nazis Kate Nazi but so legals in steelers merged together it nineteen, forty three. Their team was officially known as Phil Dash Pit Combine. But they have essentially become known as steals a lot of eagles. Fans know that the steelers eagles rivalry means something to me, and I'm sure I'm sure does a lot of eagles fans in the area for me specifically grown south flee. There were a lot of people especially when I was younger, you don't see it as much. Now people who were steelers fans especially in that Arrow or a new turn of the century but very good in the Ben. Rothlisberger years early on they started winning a couple super bowls had a lot of fans there who would. You know say all steelers fan because they're a Pennsylvania team. Last time I checked you fought off the end. There was a Philadelphia team here. Then you had guys who were on affiliates fan of Flyers Fan and if family you're just a loser, you're just a fraud. I hate the steelers because of that. Hate. Ben Rothlisberger I'm sure a lot of you. All have some of you who've gone to school in Pennsylvania College in Pennsylvania. You might have had some rivalries with friends or maybe people that hated who were you might have been eagles fans and you WANNA. Live your who for all you know your freshman roommate in college had been a steelers Fan I. think that happens all the time if. You go to Penn State. Insur people listen this went to Penn state thing that's a pretty common occurrence there you have the flyers, penguins, rivalry steelers, eagles, sears neal's don't play that that often obviously land they did was in twenty sixteen when the Eagles beat them at Home Carson Wentz third NFL game they went to three zero to start his career in that season things were electric ben how I miss it I want to. Talk about the struggles? And things that led up to the struggles that happened before America even got involved in World War Two. Only take you back to nineteen thirty third. Burke Bell. Graduate the Haverford School in Haverford Pennsylvania once Piscopo Academy. Transferred however I have food school who played quarterback at the University of Pennsylvania. was an English major at Penn much like the guy speaking right now on this podcast. Burke Bell goes on. Become the CO founder and Co owner. Of Our beloved Philadelphia Eagles in Nineteen thirty, three at the same time. The Pittsburgh football team. Then known as the pirates even though the Pittsburgh pirates baseball team have existed in the National League since eighteen ninety one, I don't know what that's about. You see that a lot in the. Pre War era premodern age NFL were teams at the same time had share teams baseball names at one point. There was a Saint Louis Cardinals and Saint Louis. Cardinals. Football team. In baseball team we know the Saint Louis Cardinals now but the team that's now currently in Arizona was one Saint Louis also called the cardinals craziness I. Don't get it imagine if imagine if when you were a kid say grew up in the eighties nineties whatever seventies just say it's the late seventies early eighties and you're an eagles fan but The. Eagles as we know them in the NFL, the eagles, but also the phillies were called the eagles too. That's insane. Could you imagine What's your favorite in the eagles which one I don't know the baseball actually sounds like I love the eagles which one oh, the football team and actually hate the Baseball Eagles I'm a Yankees Fan because my bandwagon loser. Weird, stuff getting sidetracked. I'M GONNA get sidetracked a lot during this year. So, the steelers Team now known as the steelers which from nineteen thirty three as well. At that time the NFL, there were not a lot of teams. Early. Early on as we know the NFL last season celebrated their twentieth anniversary Or not the twentieth anniversary because it was two thousand and twenty s or I'm thinking they're hundredth anniversary. I'll after the hundred season in this past last month was the. Hundred anniversary of the first football match that's considered under the NFL. Banner. Both Franchise Start Nineteen thirty-three both franchises forget a rivalry in Pennsylvania. Both franchises were terrible neither had a winning record in their first eight seasons. Aren't Rooney. Legendary figure in the football world. The Rooney family football royalty in certain sense they were hemorrhaging money over the first eight seasons aren't roomy have lost up to a hundred, ninety thousand dollars and yet that's not much right now obviously me a lot. But in terms of the sports world that's. That's fine for not wearing a mask. But that was also the great. Depression. And then one of those inflation calculators online that's about three point five, million dollars today. So again, that won't be a ton verse owner but if you weren't making any money at all, that's especially it's not like they had TV, and social media streaming rights contracts in nineteen forty to carry the dead weight. losing money losing money. Bert Bell losing money to. Say Hey I have a team in Philadelphia you have a team in Pittsburgh they're both in Pennsylvania. Why don't we just mashed together? That was their plant. Art Rooney was going to sell the steelers and by share. And our beloved Philadelphia Eagles and they were going to name the team. The Pennsylvania Keystone. Are, you kidding imagine if that happened in went through fully in right now this was the bleeding green keystones podcast or bleeding Houston owners or I. I don't know what the heck is that. The Keystone get the keystone state amount idiot. But just a crappy team. So this is what happens. This is how they were going to do. This deal here comes in Alexis Thompson. Hotshot Playboy himself. Has Some money wants to buy an NFL team. Goes to Bert Bell owner of the Philadelphia Eagles Bell brokers deal with Art Rooney. Rooney sells the steelers franchise. Pittsburgh football franchise I should say. For a hundred and sixty thousand dollars and uses eighty or ninety thousand of that to buy a stake into the eagles to pay bell for the right to become an owner of the eagles. Thompson is planning to move that team to Boston to have NFL franchise there. But what is the nick in this? Why has done happened? Why are we not in this alternate history where my whole life revolves around the Pennsylvania Keystone irs what happens Well. Thompson couldn't find a place for the team to play. In the Boston area. So. What happens this plan between Rooney Bell? Where they were gonNA play four Home Games in Philadelphia at Municipal Stadium. Later known as JFK stadium down in south feeling the play word. Games there they're gonNA play four games. Four home games per year. At Forbes Park Forbes Parker Forbes view where we argue. Forbes Field Forbes Park in Pittsburgh who cares Anywhere, steelers played there from thirty three to sixty three. Then he played at Pitt stadium for a little bit before they went to three rivers and now Huntsville. So that thing Thompson not being will find a spine. Boston. Play that inability to secure that real estate changed the complexion of our all our lives imagine that there was just a Pennsylvania Keystone thought. Insane. Insane. Like the Scott nothing about Pittsburgh people. Pittsburgh people. FREAKS freaks. Anyway. So that doesn't come to fruition. So what happens then Thompson still owns the team. Thompsons team comes to Philadelphia. So Thompson technically technically owns the Pittsburgh football franchise and Rooney and bell. Technically. Only. Eagles. But bell goes with ruining to Pittsburgh and they become the steelers. So that team is the steelers and Thompson comes to Philadelphia the team that he bought was the steelers e comes Philadelphia and becomes the owner of the eagles. It's the most convoluted thing I've ever heard in my wife wants took a walk class in college insanity. Wait I talked to law classes. How about that? Always wicked smart, and then we'll goes on Rooney. Obviously becomes NFL. Has Said Bergdahl owns the steelers with Rooney for a few years becomes the NFL Commissioner in Nineteen, forty six until his death in nineteen fifty-nine. Legendary figure one of the most important people in the history of Philadelphia. I don't think it's hyperbolic to say that founded the eagles went to Penn hats off to him for both of those things so. As we've covered the steelers and eagles before nineteen, forty, three before Pearl Harbor before America United States was in Rob's in World War Two almost became one. So what happens nineteen forty? Things are in disarray in the NFL obviously people always talk about baseball America's pastime. During the wartime period, we have the whole illegal run stuff with women run. Or women filled baseball teams that sparked up in that era and had a lot of fanfare about baseball at the time. You know, Ted Williams You know this isn't Ted Williams leaves misses a couple years, and then you know Miss Probably, what seventy home runs not playing for a couple of seasons prime primis three hundred. Three fifty hits restrict record football gets under look but football wanted to provide that entertaining to the American people just as much as baseball and you know they wanted to make some money to because they're not stupid. So football season. Go on NFL WE'RE GONNA play it. So the nineteen forty, three spring meetings, craziness ensues a lot of players obviously football was not suppose that needs to be said I'm sure a lot of knew that but needs to be said football was nothing compared to baseball think of what football is today that's football, and that's basically what baseball wasn't. as much people love football now, Leila Baseball and in football I don't even know what that would have been obviously lower than baseball or maybe like MLS. Let's say they're as big as the MOS people like them all last. There are a lot of fans. Is it this big league that people love? Not Really. That's okay. Does have Assad fantasies but because of that football, the time wasn't attracting no the biggest stars in all of sports they could just get what they got from college vote was bigger than the NFL fat point. So sometimes get college players sometimes, they would just get gots guys off the street. Then poly style. So because of the war, most players that were on the NFL rosters, Dan got word firms. So these are guys out were married. Had Kids were a little bit older than like the twenty six year old cutoff range or players you had. UNFIT, for war physically so you have a guy. The steagall center the Phil Bit Phil Pit Combined Nineteen Forty-three Center Ray Graves. Was Deaf in one ear the center was deaf in one ear. How. Could he hear the call of the quarterback to hike the ball? That's insane. You WanNa hear something even more interesting. Eagles had a guy the steals I should say, sorry, the struggles had a guy on their team is knee was Tony Bova. He was blind in one not and partially blind in the other. So what position do you think he plays linebacker just runs around like a maniac has daredevil like senses and can just hear the ball is snapped words throwing hand off to Russia's over there and tackles the guy know that guy played wide receiver. The SEGEL's had a guy who was legally blind clang wide receiver and guess what he led the team with seventeen catches. Why does no one talk about this guy needs to be a sexual him though if I need to know everything in the world. Who is Worthy Act obviously probably dead. But where did his life go after them? How do you even get blind? Was He born blind was an accident. Chemicals. daredevil. Marvel comics something like that I don't know. But my point is this wasn't a cream of the crop. Of athletes and. Really. The male population in. American time. This is crazy. So. That team. So the steals. They actually go five, four and one get a winning record but they finished third in the NFL Eastern Division behind the Washington you know what's were six three in one in one the eastern division go in the plane NFL title game the giants wore six three one but I guess Washington one whatever tiebreaker there was at that period and then inflation will love this just because of the insanity of sports at that time things of teams in fourth place in the NFL Eastern Division. In nineteen, forty, three with a two and eight Brooklyn Dodgers Brooklyn dodgers. Want. Also needs to be said in terms of something that Hamstrung the NFL. At that time it would be irresponsible for me to say, no, how they could have increased Rosser size in got more players on teams. If, they lifted their rule in the ban of black and African American players disgusting can't believe it happened. Well, I shouldn't say that I can't believe it happened while determined place. They're terrible people in there have been forever I get why it happened even though it was discussing act. And Insane. The thing that was ever. Action say it's insane to think that I understand why? Because people are terrible they're racist people out there. It's insane. Searching, for what stream next HBO Max is where all of HBO The Greatest Collection of movies, shows and Max originals, firm everyone in the family. Discovers something fresh to watch with new HBO series like lovecraft country from Jordan peele green and J.J Abrams. Or the undoing starring Nicole Kidman and Hugh Grant. You can also jump into a new Max original selena Gomez's new cooking show Selena and chef or the flight attendant a dark new comedic thriller starring Kelly Cocoa. Really? Scott's even producing a new series called raised by wolves. Whether, you want to rewatch classic favorites or finally get into that. 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Football teams, NFL teams were drafting got drafted and to the entire. Pacific theater. They were judged by just NFL teams, they were being drafted into the war. Is Anita read a book? Anyone's author knows a book about were Time Football Shoe tweet email whatever. Eagles had sixteen players ready to play them which was more. So, what happened there was because the eagles had a little bit of an edged over the Pittsburgh football franchise, those teams were. Green and white uniforms. Take that, Pittsburgh. That was the only season where in history of the Pittsburgh football team where they did not have at least some degree black and gold in their uniforms. Black and yellow take them. So. Even though a lot of these guys were cast-offs or random people who did not get drafted into the war itself, the European Campaign Civic Theatre whatever reserves. Whatever was going on in the war industry some guys their day jobs were in factories manufacturing four war industries. So they were allowed to stay stateside were able to plan. But the is a nineteen, forty three. The actually go to the NFL championship in nineteen, forty seven and then win the whole thing nineteen, forty, eight, and nineteen nineteen, forty, seven, they lose to the Chicago cardinals nine, hundred, forty, eight, they beat the Chicago cardinals in the nineteen, forty, nine, they beat the Los Angeles, rams to win their second, NFL. Change. So looking at some guys on this roster that were, you could tell which guys were originally Pittsburgh players, guys that were originally Philadelphia players that came to play on this Phil. Pit. Combines Eagles unofficially known steagall team in nineteen third through suppliers that I didn't know that research on highland. We have Francis Joseph Bucko camera I heard of this guy before port Richmond Nave. Went to North Catholic Event Temple Offensive Lineman. It was his rookie year nineteen, forty, three played until nineteen, fifty, five, all burns was on both the forty eight team and the forty nine championship teams. Was a scout for the Eagles nineteen sixty NFL championship team. This guy's skies kind of alleged. Three time pro bowler NFL all decade team for the nineteen forties. We also have been cash who was a safety end fullback he was listed as you know, most of those guys at the time kind of play two ways like that. I first I joined the team and he played until nineteen, forty nine. So he was on both the forty eight, hundred, nine championship teams. We have VIC sears. Tackle played offensive line, but also prompt reply defensive flights to nicknamed. smoothie what a nickname. That was his thirty with the team they draft Eagles had previously drafted him out of argosy. was on the forty, eight, forty, nine teams will meet second team all pro in nineteen forty in nineteen, forty nine. He was also a manifestos, nineteen forties off decades. We also have. Ernie, steele was on the forty eighteen. That was his second year in nineteen forty three his last season with the birds was nineteen. We have. A huge figure eagles history out wister number seventy retired by the franchise nineteen forty-three. What's his rookie season? He played until nineteen, fifty, one all with the birds. was on the forty and forty nine championship team championships. It was a six time first team all pro from nineteen, forty, four to nineteen forty nine was a two time second team all pro in nineteen, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, one the only year in his career where he would not pro was this rookie year for the Eagles why? Didn't make pros issue. Also, on the nineteen forties, all decade. NFL tires are on this team. Number seventy as I said retired by. Then we also have. Get. Ready for these stats, their quarterback for the steals full combine Roy's Zimmer. What the time was twenty four years old these are his stats. He was the quarterback for this team he had eight, hundred, forty, six passing yards. With nine touchdowns and seventeen interceptions. His completion percentage was thirty, four, point, seven percent you're thinking this is nineteen forties football. They play some army navy triple option stuff and he had a lot of rushing yards or something is that how he was good He had on thirty three rushing attempts. Thirty three Russians had negative forty, one yards that season negative forty, one, not forty one, negative forty one seems impossible nobody was he taking knees every five seconds what was going on? And despite at all I, don't know how he made second team all pro that year. It was a different sport. We also have two guys who I consider in a the moonlight Graham category for that Stieglitz team. If you're not familiar with Moonlight Graham go watch field dreams guy. Wanted had one at Bat, his Major League career suicide said, he'd officially officially played for the team. Played in the League. We have ray route. Who was end was it hasn't ended that probably meant he played like defensive end and tight end playing both ways played in two games that season recorded zero stats never played again. GotTa be guy only got in because of the war. Yep Steve Sader a fullback. Concrete Football Experience San Lop Player in South Philly came out swinging from South Philly basement events polly invincible style played two games had three rushes for five years, and then he goes and dies in nineteen, forty, six at Age Thirty Years Twenty, seven, nineteen, forty, three of Hodgman's is. When you're watching the birds close things up watching the birds on Sunday take on the steelers. With your significant other or maybe some your family members Gimme a little history lesson on the Segel's Pennsylvania Keystone owners. Avian. Join to Robert. Kraft. 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Tracy Letts, 'Ford v Ferrari'

Popcorn with Peter Travers

21:59 min | 1 year ago

Tracy Letts, 'Ford v Ferrari'

"Breath I everybody. I'm Peter Travers. This is popcorn where we tell you what's happening at the movies and there's a tremendously exciting. especially if you're a motor head and you WanNa see what goes on at a race. Ah called Ford. V Ferrari which pretty much sets up. What it is my guest today Tracy? That's I have no idea you act you right Pulitzer Prize winning plays you. Our television show's every time I turn around how you have time to do all these. Are you torn between all this. Did they have to grab you by the throat. And say you're going to play Henry Ford the second that that's James Mangled styles throw okay He yelled at me until I took the job. And I'm really glad I did. He's it's a great screen. Plays a great filmmaker had a great time. And I was going to say. But you don't get got to be racecar driver but you do get in the car. When one of the funniest scenes in the whole movie is when Matt Damon Carroll Shelby Characters as deuce use which is what the second was called right juiced? I love that even though he's the grandson the actual son and you get you go for the ride of your life and great time. It was Really because how did they. How did they shoot that? Give away some okay. I'm in a car young about one hundred miles thousand our readers. The truth of the matter I mean James Mangold was very good about putting actors in real circumstances as close as he could to get us to the point where we didn't have to manufacture a lot. We weren't acting against green screens or with tennis balls. Or you know we were. We were in real cars not risk the actors lives I. They say that should be done. Matt wasn't actually driving. That's the that's the key. They they had something called a biscuit which is kind of camera car that wheels us around around the tarmac. But yeah we get up speeds about one hundred miles per hour. It wasn't the speed. That was the scary part. It was the CLAUSTROPHOBIA. Those cars are not made for. We're big guys and I'm a big guy and To Wedge me in that car I couldn't extend my legs can open the door because the cameras there the roof the cars about six inches over your head. You're buckled in a minute period. Suit right shoulder. My Hair shellacked covered and make up. You can't like sit there for hours. This is a little scary. Yeah your discomfort shows but I would just acting. How many times did you have to do this quite a few though? I think yeah I didn't I wasn't aware of this when I saw the film but Jim tells me what you see is mainly the first take. That's often the case address. Come on the show and they said well David fincher made. Let me do this nine hundred times and I said take did they use say I won. Spontaneous right yeah. I've worked with William freed can a couple of times times and He's a wild man he is he only does one take a light has to fall into the shot him to do take to fall. uh-huh you're in. It keeps actors on their toes learn. Yeah but plying this guy playing this Titan of industry how how do you prep for that or is it just the inner titan in you tracy that makes this happen. I'm not a big research guy. I didn't feel there was a lot of research necessary. You to play Henry Ford So much description very well written so so much of it is on the page already You know you get a good haircut you get you. You got a suit that fits you look good in the suit until you're in the car right then. Everything is riding up all that kind of gets you ready to do the thing. But it's really it's really on the page you know. The truth is I get asked to do a lot of titans of industry and presidents and all those the man behind the desk I get asked to play a lot of those parts parts so you look for the thing that makes it a little bit special a little bit different and for me the idea that the whole basis of the story both our movie VI and the real life story was the reason they went to this race was because of Henry. Ford's insecurity got his feelings hurt by Enzo Ferrari and decided to go to Lemond and beat Enzo at his own game. And that's the reason this story even exist because Ferrari was winning all this and he had the fancy car yeah and had Ford was doing things on an assembly line right but to me. Maybe it's because I see too many movies and it's part of what it is. It's also about any industry right and and basically Henry Ford. The second is trying to buy the youth audience if tired of nobody young buyings cars right. It's Rory Are excited one of the great things about the story is that it's complicated. It's not black and white. I mean the movie has Ken Miles and Carroll Shelby as the underdogs but they also worked for the Ford Motor Company. Ford Motor Company's never been an underdog so there there's an interesting dichotomy there here between these guys who are mavericks testing the limits of these automobiles and putting their lives at risk working for this giant corporate structure with a lot of financial interests. You know it's a it's one of the interesting grey areas. This movie exists. You Watch basically league these guys that are racing these cars to make something work for somebody they can get killed in the doing of it. It's the thing I love about Ford versus Ferrari. It is a human story story. It's not about the cars. I'm not a car guy. I don't know anything about cars. We didn't even learn this. We were in Toronto. Nobody's cargo nobody working his Co. including circle who goes so deep into a lot of car guy not a car guy and Mangled not a car guy which I think is a good thing I think if the movie had been made by a car car guy he might have fetish is the cars or were focused more on the cars than on the human story and I think the human story behind Ford versus Ferrari of these these these guys thrown into this competition together Some of them unlikely partners Henry Ford with these guys And yet there's something about people coming together to make something that is. It's moving We we can identify with that with that idea of cooperation. Collaboration competition I mean cars lined up trying to beat each other other to the finish line. It it doesn't get more apparent competition doesn't just such a concrete way in which is to compete a race But I you know these guys. It's a story about their their friendship and their cooperation with each other. In order to make this happened it takes a lot of moving parts to make this thing happen to pull this off with a does and again. It's like the movie industry right or even the theater that's right takes. It's never one person. Yeah and I don't think I don't think he would admit it Mr Mangold but I think that analogy of making a film artists Working for corporate interests especially to to do something great Oh you do something of some size and scope I think that's something that Mr mangled absolutely identified with. I like how you're going him. Mr Mangold talk shows true respect for the guy. He's a great he's he is. I think he's moving to rush to think if I were working for him I I think sometimes helps doesn't it he. There's something about Mr Mangold. That is okay. We're sticking with something about about him. That's very inspiring I would I would go into battle for that man I really would he and hence buyers that that kind of camaraderie. I mean he yells he curses. He throws a fit. But it's something but it's not done of insecurity you can tell the difference. It's done because because he's passionate because he cares about the thing because he's excited he's trying to get it done. It's his way of communicating. And I I just I love him. We had a great time. I could see that yeah. Does he say things like more intimidating. Tracy how do you do that because it would be boring. I think to play somebody who is intimidating with bluster. But you don't do that not ever so. He has great authority. But it's never taken to that point where you're thinking. Oh this is just crazy. These guys crazy. Yeah he's sinister right times but wow well. That's part of the fun I mean if you're the guy in power you don't really have to do a lot right guys guys in power don't have to do a lot. They don't have to yell they don't have to you got someone else. Do sure sure they push a button behind the behind the scenes. You never know. That's the great thing about playing guys like that. I really enjoy that part. You know. It's like oh I'm perfectly comfortable in the seat of power at home. Is that the same name. Does your wife say okay. It doesn't work that way really all. I'm I'm the quiet. It guys sitting reading the newspaper and letting everybody else run the show. I'm so it's Cathartic and I suppose maybe it is. I don't know because you're married married to carry Kunas one of the best actresses around and you've even dared to work together which is tricky in marriage and life is so much better when she's calling all the shots really. Oh my God yes. It's fantastic. Oh Yeah I heard something. The first time we ever went at the grocery store together. I mean that's always a big thing so we go to the grocery store and I start unloading the groceries. And I'm doing it wrong. She tells me I'm doing it wrong. I went great great. How do you do grocery shopping? Yeah exactly right. It's like great. I'm done you do it from now on no never have to worry bud. uh-huh I never do that. Sounds like the guys way really does do it. She taught you that I love it. I love it but did you. Women should run everything. They should do everything they should run it. All but you two met when you were doing Virginia Wall. So that's that's an interesting thing to do to there. You are the star. Who Wins the Tony Award? That should have given you a degree of authority and power. But it didn't no no. I'm I'm glad these are great. I heard something and then I'll get off of this about your actual wedding ceremony. Yeah what can you talk of that a little bit. We were married in a hostile. We were GONNA go to the courthouse and we had one day left on our on our Illinois marriage licensed she'd just come back from L. A.. And the night before we were gonNA go get married. I said I'm not feeling well and Mound up in the emergency room long story short. I had my gallbladder bladder removed so carry went and found the chaplain in the hospital who had never performed a a wedding service before or normally she's there for sadder more sombre events and she came to our hospital room and she performed the ceremony? We were WED in the hospital. I was does take charge. Large absolute. She found this person to do she was she was wearing my T. shirt and I was in a hospital gown in the bed On a lot of drugs I was very right drugged up from from the surgery. I don't remember very little about our wedding ceremony. The rights to that movie. I just think it would be great league right to get married a hospital. I would recommend it. I think many people won't leap to that he could do. They actually have to have gall bladder surgery. The Nice thing about it or you city were yellow. And I'll looking completely out. Yes I was the nice thing about it is that the rest of the world is shut out. And it's really just you in that situation I'll tell. Hey there's nobody we know who's had a big wedding has told us we did it wrong much cheaper head to big. Yeah Wow wow well in that when I was seeing I should say this four that at the same time for Ferrari's stories out you have another show in New York Windows Vista played. The you wrote couple of years previously to that it played in this. But it's a play about white white dude's yeah now somewhat around about a white dude. Yeah well there's a couple of others but you know this Guy Wheeler is the special one. Yeah and when you leave your feeling about White Dude's as this guy is divorced or in the midst of it. And he's he has a lot of opinions. Yeah Rio head favorite yeah. None of those movies are good anymore. Rhino and yet charming. He can talk people into bed he can do anything. Yeah but he's got. How much of this guys you not much really even though you created him? Yeah not much I mean you know. He borrows rose from like I say he borrows for me. Borrows from friends of mine. Divorced two kids Career Frustrations Nations Money Troubles You know he has some things in common with some people I know but I you know it's not a it's not a takedown down and it's not a meathead defense. It's always in that middle. That's my hope that he's a real guy he's into real guy but some people in the theater afterwards were cursing him out sure tremendous lo he inspires some sympathy but he also inspires a lot of antipathy. A lot of people don't like him or come not to like him. It's kind of a challenging thing. He starts off as our curmudgeonly protagonist but over the course of the thing he really kind of becomes the antagonised in his own story. Don Yourself rooting against him. And then maybe he tries to win back your sympathies. A little bit as as an audience member it walks a fine line. It inspires arguments. Which I'm very happy with? That's it nobody leaves thinking. I understand this completely. Yeah there there comes a point in the play where people are very invested in the outcome and yet yet they want to see perhaps different outcomes and as a playwright. That's something I absolutely strive for where people are very invested in the story that they're leaning forward. They want to see what happens happens next. But their their viewpoint about it changes depending on who they are it becomes a kind of Rohrschack test for the audience like that. How did this begin for you this year? In Oklahoma right you're born there. Yeah what kind of but you. Now when those of us who live in New York think of Oklahoma we go Oklahoma right we. This is what we think and of course not how anybody grows up right in quite that way but when did you decide. You know what I'm GonNa do. I was GONNA take my thoughts and is GonNa put them down on paper. Might my folks were both English teachers. They were both creative people. really smart people They taught at a small university in a small town in southeastern Oklahoma. where I grew up and I think they really hoped that I would get the hell out I. They really did hope for that. And they. So they encouraged creative endeavor they encouraged writing. And then when I got bit by the theater bug the encouraged acting. I have a brother WHO's musician position. They they encouraged all of that They wanted us to have interesting. Lives and The life of an artist is an interesting life. So that's really where it it all comes from but making it happen isn't that easy not easy at all not easy for anybody When I was I spent a couple of years in Dallas? Allison when I was twenty years old I floated up to Chicago and Fell in love with the theater scene in Chicago and have lived there ever since. Who why are you? What kind of guy? Where were you then? I don't know A healed you know I got I got got sober at twenty eight I. I haven't been shy about talking about my sobriety So yeah I had some wild years Bit of a depressive not a bit compressive of pretty major depressive hard-working though even even then working hard try to improve my craft. Chicago theater is a is a is a great And very rigorous atmosphere for artists Still is now how it was then it was before I got there It's because people are really focused on the work. They're not focused on. There's not a star system there right. You'RE NOT GONNA make making money in Chicago. So people are really focused on the work audiences in Chicago. Embrace new work they want to see new plays they will venture out to see. Are these people. I want them to come and move Chicago cardinals so we can go find them. As are you staying there aggressive because of that feeling but what happened to. You doesn't happen to a lot of people. Yes you can be an actor you can write plays. You can make a living but you're not going going to become more Henry Deuce not going to be that but when you have a success leg August dosage counting what happens that touch puts you on some other level. What happens to that head? Yeah I don't know unexpected success and and late success I mean I. I didn't have a credit card till I was forty forty-three years old. You know so kind of late in life or later in life than we sometimes think about these things happening but I mean fantastic and unexpected and fun and and because I was forty three had some perspective about all of that Enjoyed it but did necessarily think. Oh this is this is the new way this you know. I mean as soon as I soon as August was open and running I went back to work on my next play as like. That's that's the thing to do. Just keep working now. Are you as a critic of you as an as an actor you know I liked the film and TV stuff. I don't I watch it. Watch it once because especially because I'm curious about the work of the other people I've been working with but I can't be objective about myself when I see it so I watch it and I go. Oh that's that's what we did that. I'm done what to watch for the longest time working on homeland. I because I had not worked a lot on camera. I was just really focused on the other act curtain. You're right there and I just WanNa play the scene with you and I don't care and it took a while L. before I started to get okay with the idea that there was a camera in the room. It's okay there's a camera here. You know it takes a while as a theatre actor you you. You don't have that it's not. They're not poking sometimes the cameras. Big Tiny we're blaming the audiences. They're watching play. The scene with the camera is different. Different things so it takes a while to get used to the. Oh it's all right that that cameras recording what we're doing in fact I liked it. It's here so you're brave and fearless. Now Oh God come on. Don't don't put those words. I'm not putting any care but the fact is that since this is the first time you've been on the shell you. You don't know that we always end in a little bit of the guest giving us a little bit of song and I know that there's a song in your heart. I know that there's something that drives you every day and that there's something you're whistling from Oklahoma and I'm sure you can do the whole score because what you've done for Oklahoma. What are you looking for here and eater anything? That's actually you WanNa give you anything you WanNa hear me site. I do even if it's the tiniest morsel some. I'm not a singer I know that. But that's the those are the best are all scared. I just I said that. You fear Bruce King everyone is show. We're the ones who get shy. But I probably Sunday to show. Everybody does there's no nobody's over. Meryl Streep will would can't but he did anyway and there's great heart in it in the corner of my I I saw you in Rudy's you were very high. You were high. It was a crying disgrace. They saw your face. You've just been holding out on me. The whole time through tortured in very earnhardt Ford task and that was really. Yeah did tracy great to talk to.

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George Kittle: Made In Iowa

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16:39 min | Last month

George Kittle: Made In Iowa

"The. Sunday was every football fans favourite holiday national tight end day. And the forty niners steamrolled new. England patriots they had another solid performance from perhaps the holidays biggest advocate George kibble there's. Days. Inside the twenty just like that before being brought down by Phillips another fifteen. The Athletic Scott Dr Mun has been following kittles since his days at Iowa and he joins us to explain how the star tight end went from a skinny unheralded recruit to one of the best in the game and why he still. So beloved back home you could walk up to anyone. It could be the governor of the state picker up twitter over. or You could talk to the smallest kid on the sidelines. The fact is that he loves Iowa that always endear people from here that he hasn't forgotten his roots. From wondering athletic I'm Davidson and I'm under skelter it's Monday October twenty sixth and this is the lead. It felt like something. Great. Should pass don't matter because. You. Get. There's this isn't a story here. The APP. It stays with you. So Scott let's go back to win a young George Kittle I arrived at the University of Iowa where we're the expectations around him when he first showed up on campus George kiddle was a late signee by late signee I mean he was offered a scholarship day of signing day He took only one visit before signing with Iowa and that was a division one aa a week or state weaver state navy airforce that's about it and I think Kirk called you signing Sunday morning. Afternoon. Wow. So his expectations were very meagre villa last scholarship on the roster, and then when he got to Iowa, he was two hundred pounds really fast however didn't have a lot of meat didn't have a lot of time type skill. So there were some questions as to what position he would play. Would he be a wide receiver tight end and outside linebacker? Even a safety Richard Freshman year was really really helpful and. I. Didn't really. WanNa plan most fruitful tonneins. Really wonderful. Day Twenty. But then they decided let's go ahead and put him at tight end. So you saw this kind of wiry fast a short haired. Zip face kid out there, and by the time he became a second-year player. He started a rotating lineup and so when he first got integrated into the team, how did you adjust to the demands of Division One football George struggled with that early in his career because as everybody kind concedes he was an is the life of the Party and the life of the Party at one of the biggest party institutions anywhere in the country and George fully embraced that scene and he was fifth on the depth chart and he just never really seemed to get. Over the top and that was a problem for George, because he was kind of straddling that image and the party lifestyle with trying to become a football player in the big tent, you recently spoke with some people that were close with George, kill at that time including his tight ends coach, Lavar Woods. What did he tell you about that period in George Kettles life as Lavar Woods told me it really took George some time to get used to being a big ten football player. He struggled early on just adapting to college and college life and then the. Aspect. Of being a big ten football player, he struggled with early on. Times that was partying it was alcohol involved in you know Lavar was on the defensive side of the ball for the first couple of years. So George had two different voices in his head telling him to do different things and it took him a couple of years before he was able to just his mindset and his lifestyle to becoming a football player at the University of. Iowa. So how did George? biddle turn things round a conversation George Kendall had that really changed his life and his career was with Pat Angerer who is a second team? All American, linebacker with guys through two thousand, nine and pat had a similar issue where pat was a partier in his first couple of years and never really got to see the yield I was pretty much like a like a bar drinking. All American you know. Worked hard. Now we did. You know he's worked hard in the weight room on the field and stuff but. I'd burn the candle at both ends and I wasn't good enough to where I could you know balance it both. Really his career was very stagnant much in the way Georgia's was George asked at what can I do get better and what Pat told him was to stop partying as much to really focus on football and how to get better in football I looked myself the mayor was like dumb, ass one. Don't you fix what you're doing and you know start doing things right away and that's kind of what I did and. That's Kinda. How I. You know what I told George is like you know it's not playing, but you kinda gotta look at yourself. Look in the mirror and say, Hey, you know this is what I got to change and. What's Cliche but George listened to Pat and Scott you've also written about how his at that time girlfriend Claire had a hand in his turnaround as well. Can you tell us about that his girlfriend Claire till who's now clerk kill his wife? The first met her when she was pulling out of the moped lied at the University of Iowa and she is a women's basketball player and said something to her because that's just the way. George. Was and George had immense crush on her and what her mom said was Georgia's put the friend zone for eight months according to him. He was really interested in her at the mall many saw her and she wanted nothing to do with him. and. So he will laugh and say that he was in the friend zone for eight months and George really sought after finally after a really tough loss for women's basketball team gets northwestern on Super Bowl. Sunday involving the forty niners ravens no less she finally as they were texting, let George know that. Okay fine. I want Sushi, you know I'll go out with you for that. So he left. From watching the Super Bowl and took her out to downtown Iowa City to dinner on Super Bowl Sunday that was kind of their first going out together doing something together where she finally said Yeah Okay I'll let you take me out to dinner. Well they had a pretty rough break up in his sophomore year and George realized at that point you needed to find out what's most important to him and what he found was most important to him was football and his relationship with Claire. So that's when he turned that corner from being the life of the Iowa City party into channeling into football and his personal life and he and Clara together percents and so once George dialed in and really started focusing on football. What did that do to his performed on the field in? The spring of his junior season of our woods became the tight ends coach and at that point nobody expected George, much of a blocker some run blocking standpoint. I think I don't know a lot of guys really the so they respected George coming off the ball time. So think everyone cut US Georges not dominant and I had a tremendous defensive ending Drouot was a team captains and only an injury kept him from the NFL. Well, on couple of different plays, George Berry, Drouot and blocking drills George, rolling off-the-wall, basically put off the field. and. Then came back and didn't did another one, the same practice I think that sort of let everyone level. This is real overseeing a George and it just showed that okay. Georgia's serious Georgia's here to compete and he was tremendous his junior season in two thousand fifteen. Charge. You. Six touchdown passes to lead the Hawkeyes in two thousand fifteen and lead them to the Rose Bowl that year. So how his career progressed really win in line with how Iowa progress programme in two, thousand, fourteen when. See the feel very much. They won seven games two, thousand fifteen when George was one of the teams to best tight ends of played a lot the hawkeyes twelve. Life can be complicated especially right now, and like a lot of people I know that my family and friends are looking for ways to make our life a little simpler for us we started in the kitchen, and that's where freshly comes in freshly understands that food needs to be delicious healthy and simple with Russia. You can avoid the grocery store and enjoy fully prepared dinners delivered fresh, not frozen right to your door. You can also put your feet up relax freshly chefs and nutrition do all the hard work all you. Need to do is eat food for three minutes and dinner is done imagined better for you. Golden Fried. Chicken. CREAMY SPRINGTIME RISOTTO and fall apart tender beef brisket. 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You've written about how George Hill comes from a family of really high level athletes and they apparently have some fun family gatherings. Can you describe what a family reunion is like? Yeah. They call it Camp Krieger he comes from one of the most. Families. In Iowa history his grandfather Bub Krieger played a little bit for the Chicago Cardinals. But then left right in nineteen forties to raise a family farm and Georgia's mother was an all American basketball player at Drake. University and the cousins and Henry Krieger coble who he teamed up with at the University of Iowa Brad. Carlson is the all time leading home run. Hitter in Iowa history and probably most famous before George is a guidance adjust settles several years older. So when they attend this camp crater, they play wiffle ball and becomes an incredibly competitive match among all of them. But the most fascinating part to me is how George blends in just settles just told me just fits right in unless if he wasn't a player. There's nothing to everybody who's had success just blends in there. Just like everybody else. There's no big timing. There is no, Hey, look at me on all pro tight end for the San Francisco Forty niners it's just the same as it always was earlier you call George Kettle the life of the party is that just what happens when you come from a family as big and boisterous you would think so but no, their personalities are. Very Different Henry Krieger called bullying the tight end who played with is quiet. You can't get a word out of most of the time and when they'd be side by side doing interview sessions and Georgia do the way from layer and and he was just boisterous whereas Henry was always very quiet. I remember the first time I met George biddle he was intern with Casey Rg TV Cedar rapids, and he just walked up to everybody in the newsroom and started shaking hands and high on George Kettle. Football players don't that but that was just the way he's operated, and then when assistant coaches takeover different position groups, they invite groups of players over to their house, and now is the case with Lavar Woods was. The first time. I had the Taivon's over where they let became tight ends coach that came over to my house and She she left saint like who is that skinny kid like man us really Nice Kid. He kept talking to me the whole day the whole time. Who is that guy. George. Kettle she was the one who actually went up to his wife and wasn't afraid to talk or was it standoffish? was other guys are a little bit more quiet come over to coaches is a little bit more reserved George was not that George was ins engaging as any athlete I've ever seen at University of Iowa. It's got you've also written about what a star it'll is back in Iowa and how popular he is there. What is it about him that you think resonate so much with people there his energy he could walk up to anyone and it could be the governor of the. State pick her up, put her over his head or you could talk to the smallest kit on the sidelines. He goes to the Children's hospital and he also talks to anyone and texts people even to this day that you'd think that maybe he's forgotten about. So the fact is that he loves Iowa that always endear people from here that he hasn't forgotten his roots and then the fact that he comes here and he tries to energize people would you step into Kinnock Stadium? You, better be ready. You better be ready for a fight. He comes back to Iowa did a hype video or he was like a wwe announcer are you ready here? We go to fight for. Everything is fun to George and I think having that personality really shines for the People here and lastly, Scott George Kettles a guy who has come a really long ways from being a pretty unheralded recruits who a fifth round draft pick by the forty niners to now the guy that bill belichick considers the best tight end in football he does everything at a high level. Good anybody the that I've coach are good at anybody. We'd fight again. Where do you think he goes from here? With. Good. Health I think George. Continues to be the best tight end in football. He has the potential to become a hall of Famer, and that's something that I don't think any of US expected in the very beginnings have bill belichick say that but he coached one of the greatest tight end rob Gronkowski. It just shows the respect that everyone has for. George. Dental and the fact that his possibilities are limitless. So with good health George catered to become a hall of Famer. got thanks so much for sharing these stories with us. Thank you for having me on. You can read Scott Documents Story About George Kill, and listen to his podcast the big football show at the athletic dot com. From wondering the athletic I'm under scelzo. See You tomorrow. Now, there are more ways to be a team with Microsoft teams bring everyone together in one space with a new virtual room collaborate live drawing sharing and building ideas with everyone on the same page and make sure more of your team is seen and heard with up to forty nine people on screen at once learn more about all the newest teams features at Microsoft. Dot. com slash teams.

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Interview with Crime Writer Bob Hartley  S. 5, Ep. 22

The Crime Cafe

29:22 min | 8 months ago

Interview with Crime Writer Bob Hartley S. 5, Ep. 22

"I this the crime cafe. You're podcasting source of rape crime. Suspense and Thriller Writing. I'm your host Debbie Mac before I bring on my guest. I'll just remind you that. The Crime Cafe has to e books for sale. The nine book box set and the short story in policy. You can find the by links for both on my website. Deputy Mac dot com under the crime. Cafe Link you can also get a free copy of either book if you become a Patriot supporter. You'll get that and much more if you support the podcast on Patriae on along with our eternal gratitude for doing so I would also like to recommend stitcher premium. If you're a fan of podcasts. If you like true crime or crime fiction there are loads of podcasts. Out there for you. And with stitcher premium you can listen to the exclusive archives from criminology or bonus episodes from true crime garage. You can also listen ad free. Two episodes of your favorite podcasts. I've subscribed for only four ninety nine a month. It's nice to have ad free entertainment. Just go to stitcher dot com slash premium and use the Promo Code Crime Cafe. That's one word all caps to try it out absolutely free for a month. Hi everyone this week. My guest is the author of two novels. The latest of which is worth in central he has an MFA in section and along this being a writer. He's been an actor singer. Teacher Bartender mailroom clerk and wash your of soup mold. In other words he has the perfect background and life. Experience for hard will crime writers far as I'm concerned my guess. Today's Bob partly I saw. It's creating you want. Thank you for being here. The whole thanks. Thanks for having me on. Well I'm glad to do it I have to agree with one. Author's assessment of your writing quote this guy partly nails late seventies blue collar Chicago with Jarvis going away. They'll coming due in cops. You can't tell from the robbers that is so I just nails it right. There just seems perfect It's an absolutely fantastic book and I don't say that lightly. I don't say that to everybody along with your experience a bartender. What made you decide to write birth in central? I grew up on a far west. Chicago and That was a world that I grew up within and It's it's in. The neighborhood actually is called Austin as a up until a few years ago. It was the largest neighborhood in Chicago but if you go to Chicago now the tourists go there. It's a basically a working class neighborhood in my childhood up until it out. I should say a working class white working class neighborhood until about till the time was about fourteen and then it became an african-american working class neighborhood within the next few years and During that time there was a lot of economic turmoil going on in the seventies and I witnessed it so in a Lotta racial turmoil as well and I witnessed all of that and That has put a mark on me that I have. I have difficulty writing about anything else. the stories. I've written I've written all seem to gravitate towards Like the sixty seventies I might write another one that set in the eighties it because I can't find anything that is as I know poignant to even to. What's going on now the the book? Although I'm certainly glad that it is looked upon as a as a new are novel that it's a you know captures that time and so forth but I think of it as a metaphor for System itself so with actually a lot of or experiencing right now out of low cloud Low paying jobs a lot of people without any Real any well without a lot of hoped answered a lot of economic insecurity You know it. It's what I tried to capture this. This one event going on is one few months in which All of it's coming down on top of them you know and they they really can't human beings like to think they're in control but in reality as we found out recently You're not in control. And so he scrambled to find some kind of control when we really don't have it and hence people going out and trying to empty the stores and toilet paper anyway. You know so. We're constantly trying to do that. But in in reality is sometimes the situation. You have no control. And that's what they're finding out here absolutely I think that the your story is representative. Not just if Chicago but of urban areas and the country in general at various levels to new seem less great. Because it's it's one of attempting to do you know it's not just about those people those those that time it's representative of what's going on with new millions of people right now. Sir I mean I live in Maryland and the first thing that comes to my mind is Baltimore. Oh sure the Baltimore. Dc DC have struggled with right huge urban issues and of course you see that in TV and shows like homicide the wider that transit right right exactly but the characters in your book or so well drawn and unique How many of them were based say loosely or otherwise on real people? We're all composite characters so None of them are exactly the same person but I did know people similar to those people and what I try to do is Cobble them together and make them more interesting by putting them together. You know so Annette's attempted to do they ring true. That's very good because They are fictional. None of them really existed so but they ring true it just you asking. That question tells me something that they did. So that's Great Fisher. I mean they have always wonderful little quirks and you can tell all of them apart. They all have a certain traits or a look to them. They make some distinct. That's when you can do with allies characters. That's a real skill. There was a good writer. There's a Chicago writer Nelson. Algren and I what he tried to do was which he was like he he's He's long gone now but he was highly influential with me because he When I read his books I saw somebody who is looking at a neighborhood and actually writing about people who aren't represented in Fiction very often and Captured it very well. And that's going to his Traits was that he was able look all these characters and even the minor character. If you were to follow that character out the door you would be experiencing a story that might just be as compelling as the one you're reading which is that's tough to do. An Auburn did very well. If if you're saying that I've come close to it. That's great because that's what I'm looking for. Now you've got interested in reading more Nelson Albritton beyond wilderness. Start there you'll see the yes the short stories of neon wilderness He was unbelievable. He was unbelievably great writer. Fantastic to know Let's see the bar you write about has so many unique characters. Okay and Do you write individual. Bios reach them or do you just as you go. How do you handle everything straight? Well you know I it. I do draft and what I would do is. I'd write every day so right every day. Right PART OF EVERYDAY BUT As far as characterization goes I was given a suggestion along very long time ago and It was this. It's not important for the reader to know what the characters doing twenty four hours a day. It's a it's important for the writer to know so if you had asked me for example what. The main character of northern central is doing right. Now I could tell you so in his typical day. the same is true of all the characters you have to know them so well and even description of what they're wearing. It's the next day the next day to find Find the characters I would them from head to toe but then again the the the the reader doesn't have to know what they were headed. Tell you have to know as the writer so Dan you choose. What is the most poignant things but is what gives you the most bang for the buck To tell you about that place in those people and another interesting thing that was given a suggestion Minor characters supporting characters are part of the setting so the way they're described tells you something other places. Well so what I'm trying to do. Anyway is to try to get as much from a character as possible as far as conveying the story and so a minor minor supporting characters part of the setting tells you about the place will. What does it tell you about the place? You know what they're wearing you know. And and how and and the speech the dialogue itself. It's over tells you something about the place to it's so that's basically what I did. That says how I work. Dialogue is also very authentic. Thank you I. I understand that you are involved in the dancing material to a stage. Yeah uh-huh shortly. Well probably about a year after the book was Was Out This German Ed. Blacksburg isn't is his name. And he he was a co-founder of American bliss. Seder Chicago's very old. State or company goes back to the eighties and he. He got hold of me on facebook and he said you know. I'm I'm Ed Blackford and so you know American theater and are you interested in and Writing this is a play and I said yes I am and especially the because it was. The Scarlet Theater Company didn't is there a workout with a American Blues Theater? They're going in a different direction. But with Ed it did so at an odd. I and another gentleman were working on it and it's a different animal. I can tell you that right now. Very different thing and it's going to be different than the book it ever is produced and This has been going on for a while few years. So it's it's a whole different challenge. I've never I've never written a play before. So it's they're they're very With me which is Great. That's great yeah. I understand completely because my first novel was optioned for a movie producer is and she asked me to write the screenplay and Mike Young and the funny thing is that I had written a screenplay previously to other naturally not professional at this point in terms of sales. It's just it is very very different. Getting into kraft's screenwriting. It's a nation. Have Different yes very different races? Different Let's see that was going to talk about the differences between the two and then I think we already have. I guess incense isn't hard to find money to produce stage places things I I would say yes. That's not my actually. We haven't really been Worried about that as much as a writing a good play simply writing. I think though that it is an in respect to This would be an ensemble piece and it would be at least ten characters to make it to to capture the place and that makes it difficult because obviously the pay ten actors you and and And also you're looking for an ensemble theater company and that's the Fortunately Ed Had A friend of his that that does have an ensemble theater company. He's looking at it now. He's a professional rider. More than I as far as writing for television and Film Theater. So he's looking at it now it will jump in and for its over. We'll have four or five people involved in and hopefully we'll have something good by the end if it's produced as great I I if it's not that's okay too. It's takes a very just like getting a publisher. It takes a very very long time and the experience of writing play has helped me a great deal. You know so you know it's a I don't worry about whether it's going to be produced or not. I do want to produce. I do want to write something. That's good that's basically always been my thing. I never worried about if I had a publisher not before. He wrote a book so well. Yeah it's you know I I don't care if it's it. This is a difficult thing is i. Don't care if it's commercial or not. I don't care if I really don't care if it's a good story and often those two things don't Mesh I mean so I've you know the first book I wrote. It took fourteen years to somebody to publish this book about three. So you know I mean I had said it's it's an Anna. The publisher of this book is independent publisher out of Chicago in Cya major publish so except when it gets published than ever every every every review it's gotten a said it's it's a very good so that end the first one do and so it's it's it's very interesting because well then why couldn't I get an agent. Why couldn't make it? So that tells you something about the publishing industry that right. It's not Nice plane. Well you know like say will `Bout Haji get published not say. I don't know I sent to everybody. I knew Finally Somebody said yes. And then we had published in but There is no rhyme or reason. I think I accept that. They're looking for something that can make money and you know it's a business. I understand worse so you can't get really bitter. I'm not bitter about it annexed actually so you know it's. I'm very happy next to her. Yeah I've been able to write what I wanted to write. It's great I think that's really the bottom line. How good you how well do right. Yes yes and little tired. As I'm self published author at this point I get a little tired of hearing. All this got to come out with three five ten books Keep your readers interested what I might now that you know I. I don't think that's that is a kind of mass. Production attitude is a problem because if you look at great writers great novels and so forth. They take years to produce that many books to say that. You'RE GONNA come out with three books. A year is that to me is then. Then what are you? What are you writing? And while you're writing so and that's difficult it because I know there are people who make their living from writing and I don't. I mean I have a job and that's how I make my living So I understand you know. And then there are people who make their living from writing and they feel like they have to produce that kind of material for me. It's you know it's kind of productive for me. Not Net for. I understand though if you have to make a living. That's a different story but I don't think the quality of the writing is going to be there. It just can't be unless you're a genius. I mean maybe you know. If you're a genius you can turn out that many books a year. But I don't see how I can do other than that. Where you take other means and rightly sleep. Let those shredders other people ghostwriters. Would he have you taken Fatemi Anyway? but I understand. I understand why people do. Yeah I just three inches. You're pushing yourself little too hard and sacrificing quality their own process. Sure that's my main concern Even though I have a funny Know the answer to ask anyway white SOX OR CUBS. Oh well now. That's an interesting story. That would be a quick quick answer. Not and I'm GONNA eat some time up here if you're from the south side your socks. Fan White section. If you're from the north side you are a cubs fan but if you're from the west side as like my father was a one socks me. My brother is a cubs fan. My friend is a white sox. Fan I am a cubs. Fan was so The the the west side is a little murky there. You know it's not as it's not a straightforward so That you thought that was gonna be a pretty straightforward answer. But it's not which makes it a west side make suicide even more interesting is even worse or is really interesting. Sounds like the civil war or something like Eur in like the borders state area. Yeah exactly territories. That whole thing is really interesting because The the old Chicago cardinals which was a football team is on the in the NFL and they were they. They played in Comiskey Park which was on the south side. While the bears played in Wrigley Field which was on the north side so the south side people were cardinals fans and up until about ten fifteen years ago. You could still find cardinals. Fans on the South Side Elderly Gentlemen and ladies who were cardinals fans rather than bears fans because of that so he is. Yes the lines are drawn Marie interesting. No I'm always kind of rooting for the cubs. A not from Chicago and I am from New York. Oh again I've been a lifelong met fan. Sure well I resent the mets in nineteen sixty nine. They dashed my dreams and the Red Sox. Yes thanks you ninety six. I can still I can. I can name everybody the main players on the cubs team from nineteen sixty nine. Oh my gosh. Wow I believe Baltimore was also beaten probably hubbs. How could how well? I'm sorry. It's okay. Then they research terrible team for so long. Sorry for them. Let's let's just move on Debbie Bates all. I'm getting bitter again. So let's see so Nelson Oliver night soon with breath the authors who inspired votes yeah Hubert Selby He wrote the last exit to Brooklyn. I think there's some most. Oh well southern writers you know faulkner but it's you know everybody says Oh wrote Carson mccullers Carson mccullers who I agree and Roy intensive great really really interesting stories. You know catchers glazed again you know not everybody's perfect there you know. Average people goner gone in in very difficult situations. You know sounds familiar to me anyway. So yet. I O N Farrell he wrote the Salon again trilogy for Chicago announced again. It captures neighborhood and I've been compared to him. I guess which has been converted Auburn and Farrell in that Kinda traditional the traditional writing Which is that's really good. Companies being auguring especially Auburn with e fee. It's amazing that people don't know who he does he he wrote. He won the First National Book Award. Yup Yeah he was yes. He did and Three of his I'm sorry to the books were made into films But during the fifties because he was he was a socialist and during the fifty s During the red scare he was pretty much Suppressed and I guess he. Yeah like. Hemingway called him the second. Best writer in America reframing obviously was yeah exactly yeah so And he was so he was widely read and and he and he was praised and he's just disappeared but There may there may be some resurgents there because again he he he wrote about this Polish neighborhood on the near northwest side of Chicago. In catcher the people there he wrote about the bars and the and the drug addiction the gangs and so forth and It was he really exposed a he. He was unbelievable. He was mugged one time. And he he. He was given a a a pass to go to a lineup. A police lineup to to to identify his Mugger. He didn't and But he kept the past so he would go to police lineups and just go through them for watch them and he would He he would report even use those stories and so forth. He wrote a story. I think the captain has bad drains in about this police captain and these lineups just unbelievably great stories. Interesting was he. Author of nanoparticles right. Yeah he hated that movie long. He hated hated the movie. Yeah since he was a while back yet us. I was paid a thousand dollars a week to come out to California to work on came out on a Monday I was gone by Wednesday to paraphrase like he was auto premature the director to paraphrase autumn. Probably not going to get the correct but anyway The writer asked him. How can you live amongst all those Prostitutes and drug addicts and criminals? And said I was GONNA ask you. The same thing wasn't popular. Yeah I guess I guess the second mind. His second day ran into some gamblers and they went to the track. Now that was all great but really interesting guy. He knew Do See Nam Richard Right. He knew Richard Wright and they were very close friends and They they made a An agreement that whoever was published I call their book native son some interesting and interesting right. Beat them so that said. I'll be darned. Is there anything else you'd like to add before we finish up? I don't know I think thanks very much for having me on. I would like to say that I. I wish this had been a little bit more humorous book as funny but say you have a lot of humor in your book. Yeah yeah there's it's so but I think I'm glad we talked about writing. I'm glad we talk about How difficult is right? Glad we talked about how dividends to get published And that if there are people out there who are aspiring writers or I hate the word aspiring. You're writing your writing. You know if you never get published this chance. I would never been published. I'm not doing it for the that I'm doing it because It helps meeting to understand the world better and it's published hopefully Helps other people understand the world better to maybe a world they're unaware of you know south in Nonni and to stay healthy please when everybody else and I'm a respiratory therapist. I'm going to go into a work in just about fifteen minutes. It's now I'm in Pittsburgh. Yeah Yeah So. That's resident priests Tynan in Roseville their Monroeville. Yes I know of it. I've been there a few times. I live within the city itself so excellent Dan. I enjoyed living here anything. Stick and thanks for having me well. It was my pleasure Bob. I'm really glad you could be here. Great before we go remember everyone to check out the Crime Day Fox said in anthropology on my website. Be Dot Com. They'll get worse than your money's worth if you buy those books. They're great believe me authors. Who wrote the stories of contributed? 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Cincy Jungle's Week 3 Bengals postgame show

Cincy Jungle

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Cincy Jungle's Week 3 Bengals postgame show

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant. It's conversational AI designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit IBM Dot Com Slash Watson Assistant. Well have you recovered yet? Steady Bangles in Philadelphia Eagles faced off in week three and like one of their most recent. Clashes in ended in tie once again, this time with Joe Borough and Carson wentz going at it head to head. We are coming at you with the post game show here where we started a little later than usual just because of overtime and kind of had to get set and everything. But appreciate you joining us I'm Anthony Costanza was CINCY jungled dot com and the orange and black insider. Bengals podcast. Happy to have you with us. You can get all of our shows on any number of audio platforms after the fact or US live on the orange black insider youtube channel and Cincy jungled dot Com facebook page where we stream live. So happy to have you join US despite the result here I don't think a lot of fans thought that the Joe Borough era would start off winless. Oh two in one that. Oh, so rare third column that occurs in the NFL yet seems to be something that. In terms of frequency across the League seems to be pretty frequent with the Cincinnati bengals happened to couple of times under Marvin Lewis and now Zach Taylor gets tie and yet again, the Cincinnati bengals have not been able to close a close game. be really under Zach Taylor's watch or. Marvin Lewis is watch interesting stat I'M GONNA, share my screen, and share some things with you here. interesting stat I'm going to kind of go back and forth between twitter and between The some stats and everything for a look at this is from Ben Baby who joins us on the program to actually start the season a couple of weeks ago he's great gas with ESPN but check out this when the bengals have tied the longest winless streak in one score games in. NFL. History with fifteen matched the thirty eight to forty one Chicago cardinals. So obviously now we're looking at three in a row this year alone looking at You know I believe it was nine eight or nine the previous year. Then there's probably a couple of others there from. from Marvin Lewis that are included there. So this team cannot close they don't know how to close. Don't they drafted a quarterback who is Known as a closer a guy who is known as a step on your throat kind of guy and and Joe Borough obviously, and he's shown quite a bit of that through these first three games. But the bengals aren't getting in the wind call There's a lot to talk about with this game. There are a lot of opinion some of them strong's may be bound to be some agreements with what I'm saying with what other fans are saying and with what the. Talking heads around other platforms are saying but let's let's do this. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa say this. Let's try and keep it civil I received a couple of tweets today that we're not very civil and we're a little bit unprovoked released. So trying to train hey, bengals fans are all irritated right now we're not happy with the way the season started. So we try and keep a civil as we as we talk about some things if you can look. Danny Varez don't you dare throw Joe under the bus I'm not throwing any. I'm not throwing Joe under the bus at all. That's not where I was going with that there are. There is a lot to like from Joe Borough and to me I almost feel like this was an improvement off game last week He looked sharper this week in in saying something based on what we saw against the browns where he set rookie records for completions etc I want to this is the NFL dot com score page So I'm going to walk you through some interesting stats of the day some things to note on drives and I think this the that kind of tells the tale of a of a tie by the way for those of you I'd be interested to hear does it time feel like a loss to you almost kind of? Like a loss, you watch five quarters of. NFL football and. I don't know you just you don't you you. Of feel cheated I guess. So I mean I it feels closer to lost to me than it does a win. That is for sure even though as a road game in even though a lot of people didn't think Cincinnati bengals would be very good. This year you know it still feels like a loss and not a not an easy pill to swallow, but if you look at. Borough here thirty, one of forty, four again, high volume of passes and You know that's that's to be expected. Bengals aren't running the ball. Well, we'll get there in just a second three, hundred, twelve yards, two touchdowns zero interceptions even higher completion percentage one, hundred, five quarterback raining today for Joe Burrow. He was not the reason that the bengals did not. Did Not, come out with a win today there You know it was an a an absolutely perfect day by Joe. Borough. But he made a lot of plays. There were a couple of plays that he ended up making. It would have been absolute highlight reel plays that unfortunately were either called back or what have you so you know big day from Joe. Borough has five touchdowns and zero interceptions in his last two games has only one interception three game so far this year he's being efficient with the football. He is being pinpoint accurate on these on these crossing routes in these drag routes across the middle has an enormous rapport built with tyler. Boyd. We'll get. We'll get more on bouygues comments after the game in just a second pretend catches one, hundred, twenty, five yards on thirteen targets Tyler Boyd Third Down Conversion Machine the big play. Giovanni. Bernard you know he had a he had a big run at the end there that seemed to have ice the game but unfortunately. You know the bengals had to settle for a field goal and you know what happened from there t higgins two touchdown catches You know there was the long play at the end of the game there where you would've thought Higgins would have come down with the ball i. wish he would have fought for that a little bit harder So I put the fall on t a little bit on that on that ball it was at tiny bit underthrown by Joe Borough with the defensive back also made a great place. There was kind of a would have been a very difficult play for t higgins to make I think but it's one you kinda hope he makes. It especially going forward to hopefully he learned from that AJ green five catches thirty six yards You know just not the explosive plays in Darius, slay one of the better corners in the game had him blanketed most of the game Really you know some of the plays that Aj Madison were of minimal impact and organ sleigh was out with what looked to initially be a gruesome elbow injury. But thankfully, for Sleigh you know it, it might have I. don't know if it was a dislocation that they just pop back in or a hyperextension or what have you, but that didn't look good for a while so. Aj Green really kind of relegated to like many the receivers, these shorter crossing routes because the bengals have to get the ball out quickly and. That's what Joe Borough likes. He likes to spread. He likes the the spread offense have five wides dissect where the pressures coming from get rid of the ball find the target in deliver a strike a couple of deep balls were missed but. Again, the quarterback play was not the issue today there were A. Look at look at the run game and mix in his is really trying to find running room in there really is not any. There is a pitch late in the second-half today that he got. And by the time, the ball hit his hands. There were three defenders at had already penetrated the offensive line in in at least two of which were in the backfield waiting for him not much. You can do there when the blocking is that porous in. Both in the run game ended pass game, there's just no help up in. There are no answers upfront and we'll talk more about that. But you could see all the myriad of receivers year that. that Joe Borough had nine different targets a hit on the day, and like I said, pretty pretty high percentage another three hundred yard passing game for Joe Borough. His second in a row unfortunately just does not lead to a win for the Cincinnati Bengals Kara Lawson on defense there's there's a lot to like on defense and there was a heck of a lot to dislike on defense as well. Karl Austin played like a man possessed. Today we can go down here and look you know you see the the eight total tackles two sacks for Kara Lawson A, and there were other pressures and he was in there I think two other times where he had Carson Wentz in his grasp and let him go and that was one of the facets today that I found very frustrating on the defensive side of the ball, the lack of wrapping up on first contact and. Getting either whether it's a quarterback and granted wentz is a big athletic guy there's no doubt about it but whether it's getting the quarterback to the ground on first or or initial contact or still some missed first tackles, it was definitely better than it was against the browns but still lacking that initial kind of wrap up and get the ball carrier to the ground or if it's Sam Hubbard who had a sack in the game. He also had another opportunity go through his hands in terms of getting wants down another time. So a lot of a lot of frustrations there Logan Wilson You know he had the interception, he had five tackles. He made a couple of Nice plays. There were a couple of plays also, he looked candidate will be a little bit out of position that ended up being chunk yardage plays for the Eagles but you know I good. Early, game in his pro career for Logan. Wilson very instinctive play to get that interception off the tip that DJ reader flicked in the air Josh binds. He's just he had a great first game not a great game last week. He did okay today another one of those guys I saw a couple of times I. Believe Mile Sanders got out of his grasp on initial contact where you know play should have been stopped for minimal to no gain in ends up being more of a five six yard gain instead those are the type of types of things that extend drives in and get points the things you like on defense though. The the to the the sacks I mentioned, you know you had the three sacks of Wentz and then the two interceptions and obviously the pressure and the interceptions kind go hand in hand there were defensive backs that had their hands on football's later in the game that they weren't able to cow Jessie Bates almost made an incredible interception diving going backwards for the ball would have been another pick They Strips Act Wentz a couple of times, and somehow the eagles came up with the ball So I mean they were they were getting after the ball and So you gotta like the turnover aspects and the bengals took care of the football on offense today. So you gotta like that what you don't like though. Like I mentioned on defense The, the lack of stepping up when it mattered the most the bengals at the end of the game, they had a seven point lead they need the eagles needed to march all the way down the field score a touchdown, convert the extra point, and what do they do with an in a two minute drill situation they allow the eagles they commit to pass interference penalties both by their starting cornerbacks William Jackson Derry's Phillips. That netted I probably about thirty yards or so between those two. And then they just they just broke at the end and You got feel for Joe. Borough who you know, get some that that engineers this touchdown lead at the end of the game here defense defense breaks at the end yet. In this jekyll and Hyde nature they they held strong in overtime and thanks to a couple of penalties by the Eagles So you know. Very very up and down day for the defense. One of the things they did do as I mentioned though is get those takeaways and what the bengals failed to do on offense for all the great things that Joe burrowed was able to do. They were unable to capitalize on. Turnovers they only had three points off of the two turnovers and when you get those turnovers not only can not afford to have. Field goals instead of touchdowns but to get no points out of some of these turnovers, that's a big deal and the the major reason for that unfortunately is because the offensive line cannot protect borough. They cannot open up rushing lanes for Joe. Mix. Giovanni. Bernard and they are committing penalties that ended up killing drives if you look here. You can't start the game. Six place only twenty, one yard punt three plays netted yards punt second quarter three plays three yards, punt five plays, four yards punt you get a field goal finally. Towards the the middle end of the second quarter, and then the bengals hit a groove here they had the the field goal touchdown touchdown and a field goal there. So they hit a groove late, but you can't start the game with. Four punts, especially with one of those being three plays, eight yards often interception where you start at your own forty four yard line You just you can't. That's that's not going to win you football games and you can call into the. You can you can call Taylor company on the carpet for? Some of the early play calls, you can call you know all kinds of different things but you know at some point, these players do have to execute and they have to they have to be able to play better. Now, the one thing where you got to point the Finger Zach Taylor Jim Turner Brian Callaghan is being basically stubborn and obstinate about the status of their offensive line for to really two off seasons they really liked what they had last. Year in Cordy Glenn in Jona Williams Will Gina Williams got hurt cordy Glenn was I guess hurt the entire basically the entire season it really liked this Fred Johnson. Kid they picked up while you know to starts into this season he got benched at halftime today and billy price comes in billy price had a couple of Nice drives but then and true billy price fashion major holding penalty Stahl drive late in the game another false start penalty and. Old. Demons come to roost it at right guard there. So Unfortunately, the bengals have not made heavy draft investments in recent years at beat. You know first round second round picks really in offensive lineman. I know Jona Williams I know billy price being the outliers there but really stockpiling the other positions is is kind of what I'm referring to and for the last two offseason Zach Taylor Jim Turner Company have really been promoting the status of this offensive line and it's been atrocious. You look here I'm GonNa Switch. Again, we're we're looking at NFL DOT com their stat page Let's let's go. Down here on their defense count up two sacks for Brandon Graham, two sacks for Derek Barney one and a half for Jalen Mills. There's five and a half alone right there six and a half another one from Fletcher Cox Seven and a half one from Josh Sweat and another another half from league, Jackson there to give them eight sacks in the game. Now, not every single sack was just pure report blocking by the Offensive Line Joe Borough did run into maybe one or two of those so I mean and and That tends to happen from a player that likes to Ad Lib and tries to maneuver around the pocket. You're gonNA live with that. But eight sacks is eight sacks. You can't win football games with eight sacks and you can't win football games if you're giving up eight sacks and you can't run the football if you're running the football well and you just can't pass protect that's one thing but you're not doing either and and really these it's no coincidence at all that if you go back to these drives, the field goal drive the. Eight play fifty six yard drive for a touchdown again, the ten play seventy seventy, one yard drive for a touchdown, and then the other field goal drive. There was actually some capable blocking on those drives. It is no coincidence that that is where Joe Borough tore apart the Philadelphia Eagles. So you can't you can't win in some. I mean even if Zach Taylor called a perfect game or you know on offense or Lou Romo dialed up with certain things that he did just you can't win when you updates acts you can't and it's The bengals can try and mask things as they want up front in terms of scheme in in. Trying to mask the weaknesses if you will. But. Unfortunately. Some of these high investments that have not paid off billy. Price. And and these other investments that are you waited until day three to invest Michael Jordan Down Day again you had Xavier. Sufi, fellow. Free acquisition he's not even on the field today. I mean you're getting what you're putting into the offensive line. You're seeing that as the by product in terms of investment, and that's just kind of the bottom line jona Williams did I have to go back and look at the tape? I do think the John Williams did play pretty well, today didn't really hear his number called for negative reasons but do you know? I may end put my foot in my mouth there I gotta go back and look at look at kind of some tape on that but you know he and Hopkins remain kind of the linchpins on the line and it's to average to above average players at those spots and then you've got a lot of wildcards at those other spots. So you know eight sacks You're not. You're not, GONNA win. Games at WAY NOT GONNA WIN Games at way. So that kind of told the tale quite a bit of what happened with the Cincinnati Bengals. As they tie the Philadelphia. Eagles in week three I'm Anthony. Kazan's I'm going to be here for a couple more minutes with cincy jungle, dot com, and the orange and black insider. Get this show and and our other podcasts on the since jungle channel on any audio streaming platform, and then of course, if you're watching us on Youtube right below I believe it's my my left shoulder. You'll be able to click that little logo that icon and subscribe to our Youtube Channel or go ahead and like the CINCY jungle facebook pages we put up a lot of stuff there also were on instagram to I don't know if any of your ideas out there but we had we had an instagram page for a handful of years it was dormant. For a little while and we're kind of waking back up. So we're doing some more stuff on instagram. 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This game ended in some decisions but the coaching staff and what's ahead for this team look you still WanNa say Zach Taylor are really young coach both in in years but also you know We're we're now nineteen games in two Zach Taylor's Zach, Taylor's head coaching regime, and he also never really held a true. Position on he kinda got elevated pretty quickly there in the NFL so i. Kind of learning you've got another Guy Brian Callaghan who you know fresh guy that he's also kind of in those same shoes Luana Room Oh guy who's been around the NFL and coach Nfl for quite a while. But never as a true defense fulltime defensive coordinator, he's kind of interim guy. So you have a lot of guys unfortunately still learning. And it shows it not only where these massive dry spell's on both sides of the ball occur and I, mentioned to start to start this game for four months in a row right. So on offense for the bengals and of course, the bengals are just Jecklin high they came into this game. I believe rated seventh against the past thirty first against the run so. Just. Total Jacqueline Hyde and the lack of whether it's on offense or whether it's on defense the lack of being able to take the game by the throat, make the plays that need to be made in crunch time and the game and get a win. That still plagues this team even with Joe Borough one of the most clutch players we've ever seen at the college football level and it's not. On Joe I'm not. I'm not saying that I'm just saying that this team still has yet to figure out ways to grab wins when they are there when you lose fifteen games I, fifteen games of a very well, I should say, should say lose because one of them is a tie but when you either lose or tie fifteen straight close games or one score games like the staff mentioned earlier. That ben baby throughout their via ESPN stats info. That's not That's not ideal. That's not deal. You gotta figure out ways to close in. That's on the coaches that's on the players that's on everybody You know when you're when you're up a touchdown. and. There's a couple of minutes left and you go out on defense and you give up to major pass interference plays within. Within three total plays. On a game on a game type possible game time drive. That's just I. Mean it's mind boggling. It's mind boggling the other thing with the coaching decisions in there are differing opinions on this and I understand but. A lot of people like myself question the final play of overtime. When the Bengals have the ball, they did have one a one time out I believe left but it was in one thousand, nine seconds I, get it in your own ten I get it. You're not really going to do something that's likely going to win you the game but. My my stance is is and I understand your quarterbacks been hit all day too by the way I. Understand you don't WanNa do that maybe there's even a small chance of a pick-6 and you'd get the loss out of it. I understand that So there are a lot of stances against my opinion that I do I understand. I understand why? In some ways that call was made however, you drafted a franchise quarterback that you want obviously throwing the ball often. Before that tie, you are to sixteen as a head coach and you're not winning games. In earlier in that game, you decided to punt a ball ball away on your first possession I believe that. Was a fourth in short? In the opponent's territory, you don't go for it there, and then at the end of. You also Neil so you have a lot of just. Kinda give ups at critical critical points in the game, and that's where kind of where I have and then you're not winning games anyway prior to that some that's kind of where I get a little heated I guess in that decision. But look, I, mean, there were so many other opportunities as we say every week, there's so many other opportunities for the. bengals to to grab this. When you look at that amazing play, the Joe Borough made where he avoided tackles alluded as would be sacher and makes this awesome completion to t higgins. T Higgins got pushed out of bounds that play gets called back You see what the Bengal, what happens with the bengals gio gets him in in really good scoring range to. Really is the game the bengals get a touchdown. They end up winning the game and and you know they would put the eagles down by think eleven at that point. So you know it's Instead what happens you know you get the forty two yard pass to Geo Bernard on a little on a little bump off if a minus one yard Ryan another pass to t higgins at you get a first and goal. Then you have a five yard penalty on billy price, you have a one yard pass you have a sack in eight yard pass, and then you have to settle for the field goal which gives you a seven point lead instead of the eleven point lead. So it's it's the little things you gotta do these little things correctly, and unfortunately a lot of them start on starting end on the offensive line. That's that's the That's the bottom line I see someone kind of got passed me a little bit connor somebody said eighteen plus. Hurries think a look for that comment to share with you guys to. Its and at some point, if you're Joe Borough I mean, he's not gonNA publicly throw his teammates under the bus, which is admirable and that's what a quarterback is supposed to do you kind of fall on the sword a little bit but I would assume internally he's probably stewing about the amount of hits he's taken the amount of sacks he's taken and I I am sure Jim Turner Zach Taylor company or not comfortable with it as well. Could you be there was one hit today was a late egregious by me? Jackson. On Joe Borough that caused him to leave for snap but you know it's those types of hits that make just cringe and you gotta you gotTa protect your biggest asset, which is Joe Borough, and when he gets the time he has shown you what he can do even even when protection isn't perfect, he has shown you what he can do and it's it's very good So the bengals need to figure out something I think unfortunately for this year, it's going to kind be how do we mask it with what? We have and next year you Kinda you know you had your fun picks this year with quarterback and wide receiver and and those sort of things in maybe next year's draft is basically just a meat and potatoes where you do walled all offensive linemen in and load up on defense again. So that that may be what they're what they're thinking of, and unfortunately you know a lot of us thought that maybe the bengals would be one in two two and one at this point in their schedule based on the talent here. Here, they are up to one. I don't think every I don't think any of us would have predicted a tie unless you were kind of joking around a little bit but you know winless to start the Joe Borough era in three weeks. Not I don't think how we how we envision this I'm gonNA. GonNa go through some of these comments. Some of you are Comedians in here pretty funny Dennis mathers Hashtag Bungle forever reminds me, of Marvin Josh Hall says You know this might be the reality from Fred Dixon here both teams are bad i. don't. Yeah. I I you know I don't if the bengals are bad team, I wasn't overly impressed with the eagles either. Carson wentz looked like a guy that. Was Very pedestrian, he he he's scrap through and made a lot of plays with his legs today but overall two interceptions could have been way worse was hit a lot and if you if you want to really get. Technical about it that with the when the bengals took the lead the prior drive. Philadelphia had a big play touchdown opportunity Sanders beat Akeem Davis. Gathered on the left sideline badly once had a pretty Couple of steps on Davis Gay Sanders did once floated one look like it was going to be an easy touchdown and he just sailed it. So there's a lot of misplaced carson. Wentz is can have in some some you know. Mental hurdles that he's going through on the field there but I was not overly impressed with I was impressed with their pass rush but pass rush was going up against the offensive line of the bengals that is not impressive. So I don't know I don't know how much it tells you the prior week. The Eagles couldn't even touch jared Goff by the way Andrew Whitworth on that line was the highest rated pro football focus offensive lineman through two weeks. So the very next week they get eight eight sacks against the bengals go figure. I don't know I. It's it's gets out. We're, GONNA WE'RE GONNA get out of here in just a couple minutes it's getting kind of. Lather Rinse repeat unfortunately with some of the excuses in some of the same reasonings in these close games, it just gets frustrating because I assume for the locker room it has to be very, very frustrating because and I'll share this with you on just a second but I mean they're so close in, they just can't close and. It's it's a little. It's a little frustrating I'm share some again this is from Ben Baby. I'M GONNA share some quotes that he has some game quotes. From. Tyler Boyd. That are really. Pretty Pretty Interesting in pretty candid. So I'm going to share these with you here. Again, this is from baby of ESPN, dot? COM bengals Jon Boyd seeing Joe Burrow on the ground so much it sucks. It hurts me because I know how much Joe wants to win Let's go back to Ben's thread here. You can see this one right here bengals wide receiver boy later said he wants to fight anyone who hurts rookie quarterback Joe. Borough you gotTa love that you're at this point who to Boyd, who is your best receiver you gotta like his fire, his grit and his willingness to protect his quarterback and wanting him to obviously be upright. In. This one he also says, by the way, Joe is one of the toughest guys that I've ever been around haven't been around long this one guys. This one is a little worrisome bengals, wide receiver, Tyler Boyd on all the losing the last couple of years at starting to affect me it's starting to hurt a little bit i. don't want that to be a thing for us because we're a talented team. Homeboy Don't like hearing that and especially not from a guy who's one of the most productive players right now. Can't have your star players disgruntled and unfortunately this franchise when it when they have been losing unfortunately, it's been kind of a theme that there's their best players just kinda show quite a bit of public dissatisfaction. For the other thing hurting we have yet as we as we take this as we tape this program post game show that the ravens have yet to take the field against the chiefs. So there is still a divisional game to be determined on Sunday night football here however. The browns who were down in the third quarter twenty, two, seventeen to the Washington football team ended up beating them. So they are now to join the steelers who were losing to Houston. Ended up beating them. So they are now three now So the Bengals if they want to make any kind of postseason push, not only do they need to make massive improvements and learn how to win these close games, but they're going to need to probably speak those teams. They're going to need to beat the division teams. No doubt right They're they're going need to show those those teams that they can play with him in broken play with them I am. Petrified as to what? Will Happen to Joe Borough against the Pittsburgh Pass Rush and the Baltimore Pass rush as it currently stands in what we're currently seeing. The. Pittsburgh. Pass rush was already. Has already been an issue even when the bengals had some of their best offensive lines in the Marvin Lewis era and into now, Zach Taylor era it offensive line continues to be issue and I'm really worried about what that will look like. Later, this year the Bengals have the Jaguars next week, and then I believe they have the Ravens and week five. So another divisional game coming right around the corner for them. So. The. Playoffs don't talk about playoffs I. See a Josh, do Mora I like it. Look guys unfortunately this is not the the results out some of you may have expected this. There are a lot of people that actually expected the bengals just this was a rebuilding year I, think deep down we all felt that that was going to be part of it but maybe just the talent they brought in the transcended quarterback they brought in we thought maybe this would going this was going to be something where they make a playoff push they still can. Own. Two teams have. Not a great track record of making believe in since two thousand three, it's about ten eleven percent end up marrying the postseason that start to have yet to see an oprah to in one probably research that but I I assume it's still kind of akin to an Owen to start. So I mean look they're young team. They're young a Lotta spots including the coaching staff and there's a lot of room for improvement. There are talented pieces here I wanna say this before we get on Outta. We talked about Tyler. Boyd. I mentioned t higgins had those two. On Tate was activated today after being a healthy scratch last week, and then you had John Ross healthy scratch this week. So I in Mike Thomas by the way. Active again had a couple of catches today and he obviously is a guy that Zach Taylor's trusting in this offense so. I don't know what this means for John Ross going forward. It probably doesn't look good especially with t higgins grabbing two touchdowns today and showing you know size route running ability etc there. There's still a couple of rookie issues that popped up today for t higgins but I am impressed with him. And impressed with borough obviously but you know I think. Greens make catch his, but they're not the explosive plays Your best targets right now are higgins in in boy. Those are your most reliable targets in the offense in terms of making big-play scoring touchdowns. So you know I don't know what this means for John Ross I. Don't know if they're going to try and move before the deadline I don't know. What it means for Tate I mean, he had a couple of looks today no impact for him but he did have did force a pass interference penalty in the end zone but other than that stat sheet wise. Not a gigantic day for him after being inactive last week so. The wide receiver group is also still a work in progress even though there are a lot of talented dies. In that group and we'll have to see what happens who knows maybe Ross comes back and he's the guy who returns punts and Ericsson gets an act. I don't know I totally just. Thrown that one out there I don't know but That's something they're they're figuring out. The issue is you know these are the types of things that you can tell they're trying to work with different combinations on the offensive line and wide receivers they being the coaching staff they're trying to do all of these different things and they're not. They're not finding the right fits at least not quickly. and. You know here we are seven. Seventeen I'm sorry nineteen games into Zach. Taylor. Regime and and they're still kind of trying to find their way and That's not an ideal situation not an ideal situation. So I see here Dennis mather says Trade Green Trade Dunlap Trade Gino Trade Gio cut heart. I don't think you can trade all of those guys but I think potentially if this season continues to go down the tubes, green is a guy that may be coveted asset out there. Ross may be also coveted asset that maybe you get a pick, maybe you get an extra offensive Lineman I don't know the one guy I am kind of curious about they made a waiver claim on Shack Calhoun, a guard that was with the dolphins a young kid You know had some starts down they're not great pro football focus scores but they obviously liked him they didn't like what they saw from Fred Johnson for six quarters at right guard. Billy price continues to be roller coaster ride. I don't know maybe. Calhoun a guy that can provide some steadiness I duNno. 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The Bettors Box MLB Betting Podcast June 10, 2019

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The Bettors Box MLB Betting Podcast June 10, 2019

"Right now. You can get both sprints unlimited plan and the all new Samsung. Galaxy S ten included for just thirty five dollars per month per line for five lines. All you need is approved credit and in eighteen month lease no trade in required. Visit sprint stores sprint dot com or call eight hundred sprint one who fifty dollars a month to twenty two fifty credit applied within two bills. Cancel remain balanced limited basic after six thirty twenty thirty dollars per month per line for five lines. With auto pay data deprioritization during additions maximum restrictions apply. Well, what thinking for joining me in the betters boxes being the book dotcom, MLB bending podcast, four Monday, June tenth. I'm your host, Adam Burke, this and every distant better box. Presented by our friends over at DS is sportsbook, BTV the number two hundred is that promo code one hundred percent deposit match with the sportsbook one hundred percent deposit match bonus for the live casino at the sl? It's only a game on till you bet it Monday. Thursday format here with better box giving this a second try here because blog talk radio decided to hold this afternoon's audio hostage. So I apologize for the late release of today's show. Some, you may get a duplicate of the show if you subscribe on apple podcasts or whatever I tunes is now so do politics for that. But wanted to rerecord this try to get it out here for you today, since they're doing whatever the hell it is that they're doing over there in any event, Monday, mail bag, we'll start us off today at skating tripods on Twitter or Adam at bang book dotcom via Email. If you want to subscribe to the notes for the show or if you have any questions for the Monday mailbag by MLB, pissing tips, updated on the daily over banged the book dotcom NBA finals previews from Admiral algebra for as long as that's series goes and one more time on Wednesday with Parker Michaels for game seven of the blues. Bruins Stanley Cup finals Tuesday. We'll chat with Brad powers about the upcoming college football season. We'll talk about some of the lines that are already out there season win totals, how to set up Paul ratings how to prepare for the year stuff like that. Wednesday will chat US open with Brian blessing another edition of the better Spock will come your way on Thursday. All right. Our format here for today's show will start with Monday mailbag got a couple of questions with that. Then we'll go beyond the box score down the lines recap line moves from this past week and give you pick for Monday night. And then we'll go ahead and talk about some serious coming up here this week. So again, I apologize. Four blog talk radio. Doing shenanigans trying to get this out to you as quickly as possible here Monday. Mailbag to questions from Tyler via Email says with the daily MLB picks is there a reason you straight away from doing your half unit one unit excetera three unit place. Now, you just make them all three units. I know you were stuck for the beginning of the year, but it seems like the plays you semi like or have a lean. We're in the past. You can put a one unit play on. You're not even doing anymore and stay away. I think this is hurting you a good amount. Because those picks up been doing pretty well on guys. We're looking to fade and sort of betting them you're staying away only doing three unit plays. Instead, you're a lot more knowledgeable than me in this area. So I figured I would get your opinion on it, or maybe try to help you out if you were chasing and try to get you back to basics. I'm not chasing. These are three per cent plays. They are not three unit plays. One percent is not a unit for me. My plays are three percent plays that is my unit size. So I am not chasing. I. I am not betting more than I was early on in the season. I've simply taking away the liens the one and two percent place. Why is that because I came to the conscious decision that if it's not good enough to be bet for my, my usual full about why am I playing it? Why is it good enough at that point to put money on at all? So instead of doing all these liens in these one percent plays simplifying streamlining playing only the things that are worth playing for the full amount. These have always been three percent place. So I'm not chasing with three unit plays. I'm not trying to catch up on the early season. Losses of never something you wanna do. Never something that I would advocate. These are three per cent plays and all plays are three percent now because I'm not doing the liens because like I said, it's not good enough to be a full-fledged pick, then what's the point? Why would I do that? You'll especially early on in the year with a question you know, crisis of confidence in some respects, you know, if you're just kind of reaching out there saying, well, I kinda like this, you can get yourself in trouble a lot that way you wanna be on plays where you say, I like this. I'm playing this. So that's why it's only three percent plays again not three unit plays. I cannot stress that enough. They are not three unit plays. I am not chasing. I'm not trying to catch up on early season losses playing three percent plays. As I have all along with the things that qualify as picks Singapore to the questionnaire from Tyler. So if you could talk about bankroll managing and bigger or smaller plays, and how to limit yourself on a daily basis. Look, we're not calculating are exact edges with the picks and tips article if you're doing that you're going to have variances in bedsides size because you're going to use a fraction of the Kelly criterion. You're going to have a model or some other system that converts into an actual winning percentage is you compare your winning percentage by converting that to align to what's out there in the marketplace, and you bet accordingly based on that edge because we're not doing that. I advocate a flat betting strategy, which is three percent here this year and again going with three percent going with the flat bedding because it was largely arbitrary for me to say, well, this is a lien, or this is a stronger lean. I didn't have a defining factor. It was just sort of well. I feel like I don't like this enough wasn't calculating what my exact edge is. So there's really no equity in that regard in my estimation to be doing one two and three percent place if I like it. It's a play. It's three percent period flat betting with that style, of course by flat betting. It's a little bit different when you talk about baseball money, line sport because obviously, you're going to have, you know, minus one twenty five on one game plus one twenty five hundred other game something like that to win three percent on favorites or totals with juice and three percent on underdogs or anything with plus money is what I'm doing here. Keep in mind that look even when somebody sells a game of the year play. Yes, it's a sales ploy for the most part. But let's say your biggest edge over the course of a season as what maybe three and a half to four percent off the line. Something like that. A lot of your plays. You will have a one or two percentage at most, if you feel like it's off from the Mark. You'd think about a minus one fifty if you think that line should be minus one eighty five. That's a five percent edge based on the number that you've calculated it's thirty five cents worth of juice. It feels like it should be bigger than that. What it isn't. And also, if you estimate that play, Devon blind probability of sixty five percent. You gotta figure it's gonna lose thirty five percent of the time. So you don't wanna step out all that far on those plays that you perceive to have really big edges. So if you want to from your bankroll bet bigger, and bet smaller, that's fine. But keep in mind, you do not know what your actual edges unless you're using some sort of model calculating something in that regard. So, like I said, you know, I just felt that it was an arbitrary thing for me saying, well, this is one percent. This is two percent. This is three percent. So I just whittle it down. I looked at what I was doing with the car looked at a lot of the one percenters that were coming through, or the two percenters that weren't coming through, and saying, if I don't have enough confidence. To make this a full on play. Why am I playing? And that's one of the differences for me because I'm not calculating my exact edge. So again, for a lot of people that's going to largely be arbitrary. You'll you're not going to have enough convictions. You're gonna say, well, I'm going to bet a half unit here. If you wanna do that, that's fine. That's not really what I wanted to do here with the picks for the article, and the things I talk about here on bang book radio. If you want to do that by all means, go ahead. But again, you have to understand what it is that you want to achieve in this industry. Do you want to become a professional edit while you're probably going to need to put something together where you can calculate your at your exact edge, and then Betty quarterly, do you wanna use it as a supplement and handicapped games and flat? Bet do that. If you wanna use it as a second income, you're going to dig a little bit more seriously. If you wanna do it for fun. Well, then you're probably already doing it in the manner that you should, so that's very important here. It's always good to have a refresher on these types of things that you have to understand that your edges are generally pretty small compared to what the market line is, whether you're calculating them or not. So you really don't wanna step out a whole lot. If there's something you feel like is an absolute must. Then yeah, maybe you go up a little bit. But for the most part, egg flat flat-batting would be a good strategy for a lot of novice, betters that are out there, you know, focus on getting out in front of the market focus on beating the numbers that look for those opportunities where you can help yourself, but, you know, if you're just willy nilly increasing your plays or decreasing, you're increasing your bet size or decreasing your bet size why you don't know what your exact edges? So that's why I'm just doing with this three percent flat system here now to the point where you know, get if I don't have enough conviction to make a full on play on it. What's the point? This wasn't a mailbag question. But I do want to talk about this real quickly here in terms of openers. You know, we've had a couple of winners cancelled because of openers and pitching changes in a couple of losers cancelled that way as well. But I just want to mention here that, while they can't be official place for the spreadsheet because once the picks article goes out, that's it, it's done for the day. That is what it is. If there are openers if there are pitching changes. Those are great no action in the spreadsheet, but for the most part, now, maybe for first five overs, or something like that, you know, something that would kind of alter, my thinking some, but for full game totals and full side plays the opener doesn't really have that substantial of an impact on my thoughts getting keep in mind as I talked about last Thursday second time for a second plate appearance against reliever to seventy seven average street forty five on base forty four slugging third time through to ninety six three sixty four four ninety six. Openers by and large are required because the guy that you want to start isn't good enough. He's not going to turn that lineup over a third time. You don't want him to be coming out of the game in the fourth inning. And then you have to scramble for relievers. So you hope that you can work that guy a little bit deeper into the game. Well, most of the time that guy's just not very good. And we're handicapping based on balk relievers now when we do see these opener situation. So even though these aren't official place with a spreadsheet probably still plays that I'm going to look at here again. Keep in mind the scoring by inning this year. Third sixth eighth seventh fourth and then the first inning. So the first thing not really having nearly as much of an impact this year as it had in previous seasons. So get not official place for the spreadsheet, but just keep in mind that it is a game that I'm probably still interested in our. Let's go beyond the boxer here. Let's talk about the Tampa Bay rays taking three out of four from the Boston Red Sox double opener for the raise essentially game two of that double header went with an opener. Second reliever then bulk reliever Austin Pruitt who want giving them five and a third and that one, but the Red Sox in the series. Only scored nine runs in four games. There were five for thirty six with a runner in scoring position. Struck out thirty seven times walked ten times. The Red Sox only hit one home run in the series was in the eighth inning off. Ryan Yarbrough third time through the order, and they only had eight doubles and this is what the rays can do to you the raise are one of the most adept organizations in baseball at limiting hard contact against. And that's one of the reasons why they've had so much success on the pitching side here this season, is that they don't allow those extra base hits only nine of them here in this four-game series against very, very good Boston Red Sox team. So keep that in mind with Tampa Bay if they're playing teams that generally hit for a high slugging percentage, they're probably going to cut that down after facing a team that doesn't hit for a high slugging percentage. They're probably going to keep that low. So maybe missed the boat would have been here with the raise in this series. But something I will be following up on here as we go forward. One quick thing I do want to mention Yanni Torino sent Ryan Yarborough both very good in their starts in this series. Yarborough been terrific. He came back from triple A in twenty seven games since Tyler glass now, went on the DL. They've used ten openers Ryan Stanton has been that guy nine times hunter would was that guy wants as well. But Torino send Yarbrough three starts a piece over those twenty seven games. So the razor kind of moving away from the opener a little bit. Obviously, Blake Snell and Charlie Morton. Don't need them Trina and Yarbrough doing just fine now. We'll see glass now back, probably in July, but in some pretty interesting development that more teams are going to the opener now and the razor starting to shy away from it some. So that's a pretty interesting development here. And something I think is worth keeping in mind with Tampa Bay in the short term the Indians, took on a three from the Yankees and they showed. Some great fighting game three they were down five nothing early. And as you look at this team this offense is gradually coming together. Oscar Marcotte Obama at the top of the order, put up good numbers, Jordan. Luke blow middle of the order bat. Now, he's almost single-handedly help them with their platoon splits against lefties, and Daniel Johnson's coming up very soon, four Leona smarten, he'll likely get DFA or put on the, the I L or something like that. They know Johnson hitting very well at triple A right now, Indians, are getting more athletic were tools -i, or does the guy with speed loop blow had is catching the game the other day. He's hitting for some power Johnson's and athlete. They're getting a lot more interesting on the offense of side of things. And the pitching factory is still in full swing. Zach police act with a great game here in this series slider percentage up to twenty one point six percent and that start steady increase over his three starts, so the Indians really looking to deepen that arsenal with a good fastball with plus command A, plus changeup. Please cyclists take a guy that's listening either belongs here. And, you know, he's had three starts against some pretty decent lineup so far, I would Boston and the Anki is also faced the White Sox. So maybe there's still a little bit evalu- on him as we go forward. But that value may be gobbled up pretty quickly without he's looked here so far. She'd beaver did see regression game three ER as north of four may have missed the boat on that one but did give up five runs. Didn't make it out of the second inning. But talking about that actual regression for him, seems like it's kind of coming to fruition here with a couple of rough starts recently, and you'll get the Yankees, and now Domingo her mom's on the I L has a hip injury. CC's Tabatha just he doesn't look right to commands not there so many injuries for the Yankees team, both ofensive, Lii, and div era. And in the lineup it's been a rough year for them and kudos to them for being in the position that they're in because of the depth that they've created organizationally, but now her mind to the I l you know, low see. Has been on the I L, there were just running out of arms there, one or not bodies there. Didn't get Dallas Tikal. He winds up going to the Braves. So watch the Anki here as that lineup gets healthier. They may become a lot orbit over team in particular at home with their offense really hasn't lived up to its usual level here. So far this season and also wrote offenses haven't lived up to their usual levels either. Speaking of New York on somebody the other team. Here's a Mets they'd take two out of three from the Rockies. Maybe the Mets are coming along a little bit. Jacob degrom six good innings from him. They didn't strike out against Tonio Suns at Tele but we're able to generate enough offense did find a way to lose that game despite six innings and ten K's from degrom Stephen mats with ten strikeouts on a again that we were on on Saturday and Noah Syndergaard seven innings one hit if the Mets get any kind of offense this starting rotation rounding back into form Thors looking better wheelers again a little bit more consistent. We're getting pretty good on the starting pitcher side obvious. We'll see what Jason Vargas doesn't Yankee Stadium tonight. But when you look at the Colorado Rockies here, I'm amazed at their above five hundred. They've got nothing from Kyle Freeland provide Marquez's strolled again at home. John gray has been a little bit better sends itala is what he is a pitch to contact kinda guy Tyler Anderson's been hurt. Jeff Hoffman's giving them virtually nothing. I'm surprised this rocky teams over five hundred. Maybe that's a good. Sign going forward. I'm not sure I don't know how sustainable this current pace. Looking at met standpoint guy thoughts their offense has had poor luck on high Blas should be team kind of coming around here sooner rather than later, maybe this series was the start of it for them. What an embarrassing series for the Toronto Blue Jays swept by the Diamondbacks out, scored twenty two to four facing Merrill, Kelly's Zack Grank then Robbie Ray and the young kids for this team aren't really getting it done when grow junior to forty eight average street thirteen I'm based four forty five slugging. That's not terrible. Not really, where you would expect him to be a Kvant Busia one fifty eight average three nineteen. I'm based thirty seven slugging weirdness. Correal. Junior's been pretty good. But it's just a low on base percentage lineup Randall Gritshuk looks terrible. The Blue Jays. Just by the, the worst team in baseball the lineup is awful. The rotation is really taking a step back with Marcus Stroman falling off Trent Thornton, just can't put it all together. The bullpens. Particularly good. They might be the worst team in baseball. And they may be a pure straight fade candidate here, you know, obviously, the raptors taking over the city right now. I don't think it was gonna come around to the Blue Jays here at any point this summer. So they may be a straight fan team. I will see if we get some decent prices, particularly to fade them, there at Rogers centre, where other offenses are just going to be better than them. It's a good offensive ballpark, but other offenses are just going to outshine them up there north of the border. Nationals and Padres. What their four games Patrick Corbin little iffy and game one walked five Padres. Drew seven walks in that first game. They only drew three walks the rest of the way in this series. I'll talk about that more in a minute. Sean Doolittle with the blown save and game to then sure, Zor in Strasbourg just dominate the Padres. And that right handed heavy lineup in the last two games. The nationals very easily could have swept the series. You know, Corbin was a little bit erratic with the control nationals got four runs in that one. Weren't just wasn't enough. They lost five to four. Then the do little blown save their on the cost, you know, they've got so much talent net rotation so much talent in that lineup there on the cusp, they've been playing much, much better here of late will see what they do at the White Sox, and this little abbreviated series. But the nationals are right there. They just they need something else. I don't know if it's Craig kimbrel, or if it's something else, but they just need something to spark that bullpen. Give them a little bit of. Confidence in terms of protecting leads, I, they'll be right there to, you know, maybe make a run here in the National League east. Finally, the cubs swept, the cardinals the John Lester fade continued, but Jack Flaherty was terrible. So what would the wrong thing there was looking at the cardinals for that game on Saturday didn't get there? The first five overcame very easy. So John Lester still in pitch. Well, but made the I made the wrong call their with the first five or with the cardinals instead of the first five over Kyle Hendricks terrific on Sunday night. Shoved once again, with a thing that really stands out to me about the cubs here and, you know, this is something that we all know about. But just to see it kinda quantified this offense is ridiculous. I on Sunday after Sunday's game everybody in the lineup except for Kyle Hendricks three thirty nine or higher on base percentage. Jason Heyward, the lowest slugging percentage at four twenty, there's very little margin for error when you face this cubs lineup these days, very, very strong offensive team got to keep that in mind. Again, they're going to draw out of walks. They're gonna hit for some power Rizzo at Schwab or banning leadoff here in this series, lot of talent here in this lineup to say the least and you know win. They face bad pitching. They should be able to hit it. And right now the cardinals don't have very good fishing in that starting rotation. And flirty surprises me that he's been as bad as he has. We'll see if he's able to right the ship here over the summer, but he is he's really been a disappointment so far this season. Let's talk about runners in scoring position here. Let's sort of look for some positive and negative regression candidates in terms of those key run-scoring situations. So we start with the teams that have the most played appearances with a runner in scoring position. They are Red Sox with six eighty eight. Now, I'm also going to go through their Wilga and Babb ranks weighted on base average and batting average on balls in play as we roll through here and I'll touch on some of the teams that are positive or negative outliers based on what I'm seeing here, the metrics, so. The Red Sox. Get six eighty eight. It's the most plate appearances with Iran throw position, their seventeenth wilda eleventh in Bab, Rangers six sixty eight second job and fourth and Batum. So they've been very, very good when they've had those chances, the raise sixty six their eighteenth nobo- sixtieth and Bob the Diamondbacks, six sixty two v and wolves thirteenth and Bab now this is a team that has walked at a much much higher rate with square position than they have with the basis empty. So they've been very aggressive with the basis empty trying to hit their way on bass. They've been more patient with runners scoring position. I don't think a number of top five wilda is sustainable for them offensively. I are something of a regression candidate. So maybe Diamondbacks unders or just outright looking to fade them, as I think they're running the score position, numbers will normalize a little bit here over the next one, a while the Astros, six fifty nine but they are nineteenth job and twenty nine. Nice in Bab as they get healthy, this offense, should step it up a couple more clicks, I do think that the Astros are a positive progression candidate with runners position. Similarly the the angels as well. Six hundred fifty eight plate appearances with a runner in Saran position twentieth in wilda thirtieth in batting average on balls in play. So they've had very little batted ball lock in those high leverage situations. So the angels positive aggression candidate as well. And we've probably seen the market latch onto this a little bit as angels of taking a lot of money here recently dodgers, six hundred fifty five their eleventh, ova, fourteenth and Bab, Rockies six thirty three their third and Wilbur and second in Babb chorus field, certainly playing a role there. The Braves six thirty two number plate appearances twenty fifth and nobody twenty second Babb. The Braves are positive progression candidate to me as well, national, six twenty eight four th and wool, but twelfth and Bab maybe a little bit of a negative aggression. Candidate there because they're getting a lot of extra base hits and things with Bennett squirt position. Maybe that does level off a little bit. The Mets also six twenty eight fourteenth of wobble. Nice and Bob and the pirates six twenty eight twenty second job about twenty fifth in Benepe. So as far as the most plate appearance, I think the Diamondbacks, or a negative aggression candidate to smaller degree the nationals the positive aggression, Kennedy the Astros, angels and the Braves. Now it's the group with the fewest plate appearances with a runner in scoring position the Padres with four sixty one they have forty three fewer plate appearances with a man scoring position than anybody else in baseball largely because they don't walk, and they strike out a ton. So they guys on I don't move them and they don't really get those free baserunners what they are twelfth and Moba. They're just also twenty third in Batam. So the Padres again long term sustainability concerns for me about their offense. And about their pitching. As I've mentioned many times over the Blue Jays five, oh, four twenty seven mobile nineteenth and Bob the Marlins five thirty one twenty nine hundred Wilbur but tenth in Babs. So they're a little bit of a regression candidate. I think they don't hit for very much power. They've had some luck with balls getting through, but I wouldn't expect that to continue with their offense of personnel, the reds, five hundred and thirty five point appearances seventh in. Woah, and I in bam, they are a very interesting case study in cluster luck they've been awful with the basis empty and they've been exceptional with men in scoring position. So you would think that these two extremes would kind of meet in the middle somewhere where they would get better getting guys on base. But drop off at cashing it on those chances. So we'll see what happens with the reds, you're going forward. I could be negative regression candidate with bending scoring position but they should get more of those chances as the season goes along. So even with negative progression. More chances more opportunities. They may stay at the level that they're at. But just because they have more chances not because they're having as much success giants five thirty eight twenty six over twenty four th and Bab Orioles five sixty one twenty fourth and twenty eighth as five sixty six twenty first and eighteenth White Sox five hundred sixty nine they're twenty third, Wilbert and eighth in batting average of balls in play. So they're just not hitting for any power in those runs in score position situations. But they are getting some hits, maybe that does change as things warm up a little bit on the south side there. Chicago cardinals five sixty seven fifteenth, Moba seventh and Bab and the Indians. Five eighty seven twenty eighth. It will, but twenty-first and Bab their positive Russian candidate as well, simply because the quality of their lineup is increasing here. Is they get some of those call ups, and hopefully if Jose Ramirez ever figures it out. So again, the regression candidates there for the fewest plate appearances the reds. Our one, the Padres could be one as well from a power standpoint. I do think the Indians do get a little bit better in that split down the lines get some dating back to the weekend on Friday. We saw a big Cole hamels, fade market on the cardinals there against the left. Enter and hamels didn't work out for the market as the cubs to care business. They're very heavy money on Tyler male and the reds against the Phillies fate of Zach f when there, I would say fade on the Phillies coming back off a road trip as well. So, you know, the reds great pitching this year. But it was another one of those games when they hitting just didn't match up the nationals, and Eric Feddie took money against the Padres, and Nick, Margaret vicious that was the nationals taking money against lefties, I would expect to see this a lot as they do have a top five offense in that split. Heavy raise money came in on Friday, Yanni Torino's against Rick Porcelli. Oh. Fade of poor Selo. I don't think the markets really in love with Torino's, who is something of. Agression candidate. There's probably more just fade of Rick Portillo. They're angels and injure heating took a lot of money on Friday gets Marco Gonzales, and the Mariners. I thought that line got too high Gonzales though is a straight fade candidate in the marketplace right now. He's had some pretty bad starts of late Veloce decrease the Mariners or a train wreck as we all know people expect the angels to get better. They've taken a lot of money kind of a perfect storm situation there in that one Saturday. We saw Zack Davies money coming against Jordan Lyles stored Lyles now on the injured list that was released here this afternoon. We'll see what happens with zek Davies the next time he's not facing Jordan Lyles second straight start that he was Davies a big Russian Canada. I expect the market to bet against him here next weekend when he's back on the mound. Very, very heavy max sure. Money against the San Diego Padres, and Eric lower, not as the prize. Sure. Zor, dominates righties potteries, right handed heavy nationals against the lefty and lower again that was one where we were on a derivative. Play off the first five run line that one did come in for us. We did see some double header line moves based on lineups pitching matchups, etc. Last year was very profitable angle early in the season to play the team that lost game one. Well this year the team that lost game on only six and six in game two. So not really anything actionable coming out of that here, so far this season saw on Sunday was money, come in on Jeff Hoffman and the Colorado Rockies that did not work out against Noah Syndergaard and the Mets, another pirates fade on Sunday, the market doesn't like this team. They are a pathetic and win-loss outlier. They are a team that you really don't wanna back unless you feel you absolutely have to if some of their prices wind up getting too big. But right now there's not much confidence in Pittsburgh in the investment community. So some heavy money on Kyle Hendricks against Adam Wainwright on Sunday. Not a big surprise there. Wake snowing and word to Rodriguez squared off on Sunday. Both guys have taken a lot of money here so far this season. Little bit of a move on. On Snell and the raise in that one. But I would expect both of those guys to take money in their respective next starts, whether or not facing each other saw some heavy money on Frankie montage as well for the as against drew smiley. And the Rangers, you know as against the lefty, it's been a profitable angle for a lot of people anytime they face a lefty. They're taking money Monday. We saw some money coming on the cardinals and Michael walk. Get sandy Alkan Tara up on a twenty cent line move when that line peaked. I I'm considering the Marlins for the first five there in that one walk just not pitching well this season. But the cardinal's off that sweep against the cubs. They were very invested very motivated when they lost series to the cubs. The first time went and beat the Phillies and the next game. We'll see if they do the same thing here in this one. Very, very heavy raise money on Monday. The as with lots of travel trouble. They had damage to the plane couldn't take off head to bring in a new plane couldn't fit all the cargo on it and overnight all their stuff to Tampa Bay. So. You know rough day for, for Oakland to say the least I like the raise minus one and a half tonight. Continent, plus money price. It was minus one ten. When I first recorded on fortunately, obviously with the long talk radio holding the show hostage not much value in that for you at this point in time because you'll probably hear this as I games being played, or maybe after it's been played. So I apologize for that. I was awesome Tanaka money. Come on. The Yankees gets Jason Vargas. But you know again my apologies here for the late show in the late release time of the show. I will say if you do get this late, I do, like the dodgers on the first five run line minus Hafer run, looking to fade Griffin canning on taking on a much better light than most of the ones that he's faced so far, this season did have success fading him against Oakland last time out. We'll see if that happens again here, but dodgers, minus Hafer, Ron on the first five or online, the official play here. I was about four hours until that game goes off aren't. So let's look at the week ahead here. Let's start with. That as raised series could be some long term hangover on this trip for Oakland. Tanner Anderson tonight against Charlie Morton, Mike fires against it opener on Tuesday likely Ryan Stanek than probably Jalen beaks with Jalen beaks being the bulk reliever. Anna left handed guy, maybe that's an over opportunity for us there on Tuesday night. And then you've got Brett Anderson and to determine on Wednesday. I Johnny Torino's probably gets the straight start there in that one four Tampa Bay. But these are some tough spots for the as long trip. Four games in forty eight hours in Texas with that double header. So could be some sort of hangover here in Tampa. I would not be surprised not only if they lose this series but if they get swept in this series so raise series price definitely worth looking into. But of course, that's serious pretty much starting as you get the show here. Dodgers in the angels. Jin Ryu Griffin, canning tonight kept on my ADA Felix pain you on Tuesday would expect an opener for painting. But paint is a guy that sucks. A lot of hard contact lot of fly balls. Not great against the dodgers. So the dodgers into pretty good spots here in this series. The comes in the Rockies. The cubs out at course field taking that great offense on the road. You Darvish her mind Marquez on Monday. Jose Qatada Peter Lambert on Tuesday Lambert made his debut at Wrigley field pitched very well. Now he gets the same cubs team again but gets them in his first career start. At course field. That's a very scary spot for Colorado on Tuesday. Then Cole hamels, Antonio sons Attala on Wednesday do like the cubs here in this series come series price looks good. We'll see if I do have a plan them on Tuesday. We'll see what that line looks like go against Lambert. But they a couple of tough spots here for the for the Rockies in this series. Finally, the brewers in the Astros. You got Freddie pearls Brad peacock on Tuesday, Brandon Woodruff just Berliner on Wednesday. Look, I'm probably going to take a shot of the brewers on Wednesday. Justin Verlander low Bab. Hi. Left on base percentage, high home run rate brewers. Do hit some home runs. Brandon murderous been very, very strong of late very good against righties writing heavy Astros lineup. I'll probably wind up on the brewers on Wednesday hoping for something in the plus one sixty five plus one seventy ranch ending higher than that as golden and lower than that. I'll dig deeper and the handicapped, but probably do like the brewers there for that game on Wednesday. But a fun little to gamer here to very progressive organizations. It's always fun for me with teams like that get together on Tuesday will chat with Brad powers about college football on Wednesday. We'll chat with Brian blessing about the US open Thursday, another edition of the betters box. So very, very busy week here on bang book radio. Now for me, they can so much for listening, everybody and remember that you'll never strike out when you're in the betters box. Right now. You can get both sprints unlimited plan and the all new Samsung. Galaxy S ten included for just thirty five dollars per month for line for five lines. All you need is approved credit and in eighteen month lease no trade in required. 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Next Man Up: A Streaming Guide for Week 15 | The Dantasy Football Podcast

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NFL players this week. We've got an injury apocalypse. Going on right now in fantasy football and and so yeah. It's Kinda depressing midway through the fancy place. We've got a bunch of guys that are potentially not gonna be able to play this week so Doing better than them. Everyone is hurt. Craig Craig are you okay. I'm good maybe get called up to a team who needs me. What team which you WANNA play for? I would love to get out there at Janus. Oh Yeah Oh Yeah I. Thank you better chance of catching if you play for the other team. You're probably right right to this Jameis. Winston threw an interception on his first pass of the game for the third time. This season season unbelievable. How has that ever happened before? I don't know but I assume not just I assume that's it's not a thing. Oh my God. That was the quintessential Jamus performance of all time. I think yeah four touchdowns. Three picks is like perfect. Almost five five hundred yards passing such classic. He's so good but so terrible. It's hilarious brutal loss for the colts but also just a brutal week for fantasy football in general also we're going to get into the mash unit. That is the wasteland of what is left of everyone's fantasy team God speed and God bless. You've the people in the fancy. Is he playoffs but first let's just get into the week fourteen in general dickey. What just kind of made you go what this week? So the biggest thing was drew brees absolutely Louis. fricken went off against the forty niners this week. Six total touchdowns against one of the best or at least supposed to be one of the best defense in the NFL. I was actually talking about a mind and before about this on Saturday he was. What like waffling about starting breeze? You know because it just on paper it looks like a bad matchup. And it's one of those things. Danny you've talked about this. Where do you dance with the dance with whoever brought you there? You know Or do you Kinda just stream and hope for the best and play. The percentages play the match ups and all that ultimately he decided to go with brees. Thank God I think I kind of helped talk him into that because I think at one point is just like he's a frigging future hall of Famer. Just go with them. You know your your other option I think is other option ocean with Jacoby reset or something like that and I was just like just go with brees and he did six touchdowns forty point one. Pr Points for breeze. That is the third third third best fantasy day of breezes career which is pretty incredible to think about considering like how many huge massive games resigned over his career. Five Five Thousand Yard seasons. He's now four leader by yardage and like three touchdowns from being the all time leader by touchdowns just wanted to briefly touch on that as context tax third-best fantasy day of drew brees career According to the pro football reference search that I did it was just an incredible incredible performance. Meanwhile Alvin Kamara has having the worst season of his career on a per game basis the only gave the bowl latavius Murray more. Everything would be fine. Kemar at six fantasy points points in a game where breed touchdowns hold on. I got a stat for you. I saw this. From my my Buddy Ryan McDowell. I believe he said there. There were twelve players in that game that scored more points. Then Alvin Kamara. Sorry no fourteen players in the new wing of the New Orleans in San Francisco game scored more fantasy points in Alvin Kamara well and what's bazaars. Kamar is playing on seventy two percent of the snaps this year in the last two years. He's only fifty one percent yeah. He hasn't scored score a touchdown since week three obviously he's got a floor with pr but man he's just been frustrating. The exact antithesis of Alvin Kamara this week or this in the whole year. Honestly Austin Yeah kind of blew my mind charges running back Austin had two hundred thirteen yards on twelve touches and I when I saw his stat. Line my honest to God. The thought that came through my head was how the fuck does that happen. Because he had eight carries for one hundred one yards and they had four catches for one hundred twelve yards and receiving touchdown. He's the third player in NFL history with one hundred or more rushing yards and one hundred or more receiving. It's in the same game on fewer than fifteen touches. We all remember when Ollie Matson for the Chicago. Cardinals did it in nineteen. I'm fifty four. Amazing burst he had all remember that. And then Herschel Walker did it for the cowboys in Nineteen eighty-six Austin Echo for the chargers in two thousand nineteen. Was the rb you too. Before Gordon came back and now he is the RB. Five cheese dudes really amazing but honestly the thing that really just my my favorite part of my favorite thing. That has happened ever like the best. Our I've had since I started looking at football professionally was the hour that we all thought thought the chiefs might have to forfeit their game against the Patriots because they sent their Equipment Jersey. Can you imagine the whole episode would have been a fantasy court about. What do we do now? This `have me you more joy than anything else I can remember quite some time like they sit. Is this thing Adam schefter kind of had this rapport. ESPN with the headline was like really underplayed. It and it was like there's some equipment that's been misplace thirty. Five players bags were sent to New Jersey. They were not taking off the plane they would have. There's not just helmets lying around. They would've forfeited and then it goes on traffic. They're taking the Massachusetts Turnpike to Foxborough on Game Day. There's like four states of Patriots fans that how do they not 'cause like a traffic collision. How would you not have just like wanted to block traffic like it was a protest and you just got him a win? The Patriots would be eleven into of their fans were dedicated enough Connecticut corridor to block traffic. It's hard to organize that kind of thing on the fly though need organization. That's what the whole twenty for centuries but decentralisation decay this is about aching initiative man. Yeah that was pretty hilarious. I couldn't believe that Maybe the Patriots have enough help winning. Who knows and maybe they could have forfeited their luggage and each agreed to play two hand touch in twenty years? All right so so that was fun honestly. A lot of the week was not fun because so many people got hurt. We kind of took our usual format. For how do these episodes and we just throw it away in the garbage because the whole this whole episode is going to be the next man up. Its whole thing. We should promise me that the title Creek. What do you think about that? I like it. Wow you're producing thing now as well. It's got a nice air mystique about it. We're GONNA position by position with all the people who got hurt and you can place them with Lamar More Jackson of the Baltimore. Ravens apparently hit a quad injury against the buffalo bills. Probably GonNA play but we don't know for sure because it's Thursday night football the ravens are playing against against the jets. So it's a quick turnaround. You never know with quick turnaround. His backup is Robert from the third. Patrick mahomes against the Patriots this week. He had a hand injury he was invisible pain during the game. mm-hmm afterward he said that it was not feeling great. And then Andy. Reid said it was bruised up pretty good but there was no break so luckily no fractured in his hand. So unfortunately for James Winston James Winston does have a fracture in his hand. He played through it. There is a slight cracking his thumb. According to Bruce Arians so Winston Patrick mahomes Lamar Jackson all heard all play through it all likely to keep playing through. It having said that if you do need a quarterback streamer one of these guys does end up missing. Who would you add yes? Oh there's three guys kind of at the top of my list this week Ryan. Tannehill is absolutely at the top of it. Forty eight percent own in Yahoo League's going up against Houston this week in in the last five weeks. He is second. Only to Lamar Jackson and fantasy points per game ESPN stats and invoice all this today. Since naming Ryan Tannehill L. starting quarterback in week seven. Titans have the second most offensive touchdowns are scoring the second most points per game. Thirty one point four in the NFL he is completely transformed. Their offense running running tons of play action The run game is even taken off. Aj Brown as we saw this week is just been able to explode in this offense tannehill in hasn't really shown any signs of slowing down so I'm pretty confident with him going forward. You know I think the system is just perfect for him. He's shown kind of the confidence to push it downfield and all that I like him going forward. And what's impressive is he. Hasn't even throwing the ball more than twenty seven times in the last four games. Yes it's been. He's been essentially a gay manager. I know that kind of has negative connotations but yeah they're not asking him to throw it like forty times a game. Yeah they've been winning big. Yeah he's very very efficient with when he does so and they're making these big big chunk plays like multiple times a game I well. Let's assume everyone in your league doesn't live under a rock and Ryan Tannehill already owned. Who else would you add them? Dare car is still out there. And forty five percent of the League's. He's gone against Jacksonville this week. Obviously you know. He's he's a up and down player. He did not you know He. He did not great last week in. especially you know that was kind of The way that it finished with him throwing the ball out of bounds on a fourth down goal. Currently is a bad tasting. But going up against Jacksonville. This week jags have lost lost in massive blowouts four weeks in a row. Now it just seems to me like they're mailing the rest of this season in so that kind of looks to me like a good matchup for car He scored twenty fantasy points points last week. He's not an ideal player at this point. But if you're looking for a stream I do Kinda like him. The other guy that has been very very impressive or last few weeks rookie. He drew lock the broncos going up against Kansas City. Kansas City's defense is actually pretty decent over the last few weeks but Lock has been very very impressive. I mean he's just throwing he's he's throwing the ball with aggressiveness. He's ICAN really you know huck headings got a cannon and they've been decently aggressive with him in terms of the play calling pushing the ball downfield Rick Scan Garoppolo is his scheme has some Scana some Shanahan flavor. Lots of booed action They've done a really good job of scheming. Guys is open space kind of like forty. Niners do the broncos actually had a one hundred and seventy eight yards after the catch against Houston. So there's that sort of forty niners offensive flavor. In in the broncos offense this year drew lock has been pretty good fit for that so going up against Kansas City. This week is he's a guy that you could think stream and feel pretty good about drew through lucky in a forty eight yard pass to no offense that was inches from being a pick six the other way so game inches people I I'm telling demand Robert Griffin the third against the jets. This is obviously contingent on Lamar's out but if Lamar's out you could do worse than rg three because it's still looked the Ravens Offenses as well oiled machine. Obviously it's better with Lamar Jackson but if rg three is literally seventy five percents of activists Lamar. He's better than anyone else. WHO'S GONNA be? I think the key though is going to be the weather because this is you know you never know whether it's GonNa be like so. We're actually luckily do whether it was going to be like. Hey Google what. What does the weather forecast for Baltimore on Thursday evening just forecast in Baltimore? Thursday evening is thirty three and partly cloudy if you could do worse. It's all zero percent own. Take a fun at least have. Rg three percent owned ear. Braver your braverman than I haven't done it yet. I would love to see you. Yeah let's let's see if he'll do it let's see if Lamar's out all right. Let's let's get. Let's go to the real meat here. Decay yeah even more injuries at wide receiver and these guys are unlikely to play this week. Mike Evans for the Tampa Bay buccaneers. He had a sixty one yard touchdown catches only catch of the game but as he crossed the goal line pulled up with a hamstring. Injury weirs touchdown celebration. I've ever seen because really mad bad because he knew exactly what had happened to him. He left the game. Bruce Arians said afterward quote. It's not good. I'll be shocked if Mike is back before the last week. Great Nocco for Mike Evans Owners shod paramount and OJ. Howard are back again low volume that can shift to OJ Howard I cannot believe per shot permanents relevant again Odell Beckham did not get hurt on Sunday but we learned that he had to sports hernia all year and then afterward Baker Mayfield that his post press conference kind of implied that the browns are not hailed it properly early and then speaker Paul just on twitter for saying that out loud so whatever the point. Is that if you've been really hesitant to bench Beckham because you don't want him to go off on your bench you now have a formal excuse use and also a reminder that just because someone doesn't questionable next to the name and now me recommending him last week is completely absolve. You can weaken void that that get amnesty information so yeah. Speaking of Elsie. Receivers Digit Sharpen Jacksonville. He had nine cashiers for seventy five yards. Had your back shoulder cash that you promised amazing call decay. I catch. I think to also had a ankle injury which decay you did not promise in the fourth quarter Doug Marrone Jaguars head coach which described shark as week to week. I mean considering. He is the breakout player. In this offense and the star of the show other than Gardner Menchu and there's three weeks left in the Jaguars has nothing to play for for. Might not come back at all. That would not be surprising right behind. Him Is Dede Westbrook and Chris Comedy who have been playing okay. Jaguars offense has been trash fire. But maybe there's a lot of volume to go round constructs mccray Calvin Ridley on the Atlanta Falcons five catches for seventy six yards. Falcons Be Carolina Forty Two twenty but really was carted off with abdominal pain. This was because scary. He's out for the season. So that's a bump for Julio Jones and often hooper's volume we'll have to see more to pick up that slack really leads the team touchdowns and then there's Russell Gauge Age. Great Justin Hardin just an hardy. Excuse me and Obama Day Zachariah. who had the longest touchdowns from scrimmage this season and that was also his first catch of his season career mayor? Probably Unbeliev what are we to start only one more catching all of us not bad beautiful. And then Devante Parker and Albert Wilson for the dolphins both suffered concussions this week at a combined for three catches in thirty three yards not great but the dolphins played the giants this week so weirdly more relevant. Then you would think because it's an amazing match up and I mean the dolphins got no one left at pass catcher after it's really just Isaiah Ford who's a seventh round or two thousand seventeen but had ninety two the yards in this game and then there's also Allen her technically still exists with five cats sixty eight yards. So Wow devante. Parker Albert Wilson Calvin Ridley Digit Shark. Mike Evans it. Also excuse to bench. Odell Beckham junior dig with all that said. Where God's Green Earth do fantasy owners turned receivers this week from streaming waivers mytalk top guy in not to steal from Craig? Aj Brown the titans. Twenty six percent owned going up against the WHO go up against this week. Texans okay. The Texan sorry He had a monster game on Sunday. Five catches hundred fifty three yards. Two touchdowns added a thirteen yard rush. Thirty three point six P. P. R. points joints. He's just gradually gotten better. And better in this offense and like we talked about last week. You know just tannehill has been amazingly efficient and his offense and and we just kind of our writing the titans train so I like Brown the most. And then it's kind of just a mishmash of other guys I think. Russell gauge the Falcons Nine percent-owned is an interesting potential ad. deontay Johnson of the steelers twelve owned going up against Buffalo. This week I think he's pretty pretty damaging to I mean he looks like a star in that game against the cardinals last week. Obviously that's the cardinals. But he had six catches sixty yards. Touchdown receiving added Sixteen Yard Rush. She she had an eighty five yard punt return touchdowns or twenty five point six. Pr Points these. You know anybody in the steelers. Passing game is a little bit boomer bus with dodges at quarterback and they you just low volume passing game but both he and James Washington are big plays kind of waiting to happen so I kinda like Johnson. Johnson was sealers going. Forward to all right. So you're gonNA aged brown than Russell. Gauged deontay Johnson and then the Jaguars Crew Chris Conley Craig what he thinks anyone you at add anyone missing. Yeah the only guy I would slip into this list here Zach. Pascal who still only thirty five percent owned. He's the receiver on the colts. He's been filling in well T. Y.. Hilton has been out with a calf injury since he wasn't hurt and he came back one game then he left again. It doesn't look like he's going to play for the rest of the year in the last two weeks. Pascal had nineteen targets twelve catches to yards the yards and a touchdown Playing the saints this week in the saints have been burned by wide receivers have given up the third most fantasy points just obviously had that huge shootout against the niners where everybody had a good game except Alvin Kamara but What do you guys think about the Marshon? Lattimore thing Evans Silva I think said that. No it wasn't until the someone on Rota world said that Zach Pascal might get shattered by Marshon. Lattimore does that scare you guys should but I mean look at last I mean. Do Samuel the and Emmanuel Sanders had huge games. Yeah and I think I actually saw this. I'd have to confirm but I'm pretty sure I saw that. They shadow Deebo with lattimore and then had Emmanuel Sanders They kinda like considered Emmanuel Sanders. The number two and so. Do still played really well over. One hundred yards. Yeah so yeah. I don't know if it necessarily Weiner's offense though means very different things than the Indianapolis Colts offense the Jacoby percents not drew brees and uh nothing about any of that team is similar. So it does Gardner Menchu or duck. Hodges like really making that much more confident than Jacoby. resetting the colts. Yes because I I don't mind. Because the raiders have been shredded terrible teams all year. Like the raiders. have been just absolutely worked by bad teams. I guess I just see this this as I liked Jacoby and I like the shootout potential of this game more than I like. Duck hodges playing in Pittsburgh in December as well as Gartner Menchu who has been terrible in the past month he and you run into the same. Yes I agree that Pascal's higher than them. Sorry you run into the same problem with Deontay Johnson as you do with Pascal in the sense Wednesday against Buffalo depending on who. Today's white gets matched up against. Is You know kind of a big deal. I don't know who that they would choose is kind of the steelers number one with James Washington or Johnson Johnson but Yeah like white is a shutdown corner to and so. That's that's a factor here. I just think when in your streaming and we talked about this before the show like beggars can't necessarily be choosers like to me. I think I chase volume the most when it comes streaming and I think You know based on what we saw last week John. John is a good option but Pascal has been getting a lot of volume so I think I might maybe would lean that way to cool all right next one up. Yeah I mean the tight end apocalypse Mark Andrews tight end for the Ravens. A contusion between five jets play. They're playing the jets on Thursday football so we do not know if Mark Andrews I will play There's hidden her nick boil behind Mark Andrews. They both had touchdowns last week. Jared Cook on the saints. He had two touchdowns in sixty four yards in the first quarter and then he left with a concussion. We don't know if he's going to be able to play this week His pack uptight and also caught a touchdown on their next possession and then in addition to those due Noah Fan on the Broncos had his big day maybe the biggest of as a as a as a professional then had a foot injury. It's not one hundred percent considered series. But we don't know the extent of it Ryan Griffin on the jets who is five touchdowns this year had an ankle. Injury and then Vance McDowell vents. McDonald's on the steelers also had a concussion so an already thin group is then even more. So what do you do. What does anyone do at that position? Typically it's tough because all of these guys may be back next week. Take A in terms of what you're doing with your fancy post but if you have waivers on Tuesday or whatever you have to kind of make a decision now you have to kind of go in and and try and claim one of these guys to me. There's a few really good streaming options this week at tight end that make it worth rostering them. Even if you're not going to end up playing on the end and My top guy this week tyler. Higby of the rams. He's only twenty percent of Yahoo League's going up against Dallas He's been a massive part of this passing passing game for the past two weeks and I mean don't look now but the the rams really looked like the rams of old last night against the seahawks and I'm recording Monday afternoon soon so I'm talking about Sunday night. Football against the SEAHAWKS. They just kinda moved the ball at will against a team that had been playing pretty well on defense and has played them many many times times over the last three years. So it's not like it was just like a new thing for the seahawks. The Rams really just moved ball it will I think he's been a big part of that And it's been you know he's been a big part of the offense because Gerald Everett has been out. I don't think Everett's be returning this week. Unlikely Anyway he has not. He didn't play at all in practice last last week. So that Kinda tells me. He's not close to returning So to me higby is the top at. He had over one hundred yards in the last two games. He the ad a seven catches one hundred yards a touchdown in week. Thirteen twenty three point seven. Pr Points he had never been over one hundred yards in his career to go a fifth of his total career receiving yards at the last two weeks. Yeah I mean he's been sort of the de facto number two in this offense the he's been there number six offense lineman he's been a blocker for his whole career. Yeah and then he's just been the rams six linemen and now he's just running around with Gerald levert her. So Sean McVeigh said after the game that he was gonNA stay a part of their offense. He's obviously proven that he can do it. And also the running more like two two tight end sets the for the lack of blocking Anne Cooper Cup has come off the field as a result of that actually like Robert Woods has really league taken over the receiving bone like a security blanket. Roll that Cooper Cup kind of had the first half of the season now bobby trees now because Robert Woods I think he he had four hundred and thirty or so yards with thirty something catches in the first half the season and the last four weeks he has the same numbers yet in the first eight weeks. Plus it's his first receiving touchdown came against the seahawks Sunday night. Even though he's been such a touchdown magnet for Jared Goff last year and so I think woods can start scoring again. Maybe at the expense expensive cop and it's not really numbers or an actually coming from anyone. I think woods is really taking a lot of cups roles. And then he has to. Its He'd be solid not to mention Brandin. Brandin cooks has completely disappeared in the off. Right right yeah that is also. Yeah hippies the first rams tight end in the Super Bowl era to have consecutive games with at least one hundred receiving yards. What Yeah it's it's insane and he? He's blocked ninety seven percent of the rams of the rams runs since becoming a full-time player. When ev it run out and girly has had great games in both both of those because of that it seems like all right so other than hey be looking at it? Ted In Thomas of the panthers he has taken over for the injured. Greg Holson Olson left the game two weeks ago with a concussion. It's unclear what exactly the panthers plan is going. Forward if they're going to try and in Russia and back and get him back or you know with them kind of firing their head. Coach and having a transitional period to end the season. Maybe they're just GonNa Kinda see what they have with at the end Thomas and some other guys at the position. I don't know exactly what's going to happen. But if Olson alix Olson continues miss time in Thomas is a very very good streamer i. We had ten targets in that loss. To the Falcons last week. Five catches for seven yards and a touchdown we talked about it last week. He came in late in the season last year when when Olesen was missing time and he got a ton of targets and that offense. He's he's a very very athletic player. It's been kind of strange. That hasn't been a part of the offense at all this season. But he's is clearly talented and now he's getting the volume that it needs to be a fantasy producer in this tight end position which is just a wasteland at this point. Thomas is a startling guy for me you you know whether or not you have a solid option at Titan. It's awesome his out. I'm maybe putting Thomas in above my starter one percent. Yeah so I like him a lot the other guys. OJ Howard we talked about earlier. With the buccaneers with Evans out. I think his role is going to grow. He said eleven point one eleven point three points in the last two weeks. He's kind out of established himself showing some consistency using the coaches doghouse. For most of the season with these little mistakes drops and fumbles and things like that but he's clearly a talented talented player going up against Detroit. This week I like those. I like those three particular as streamers for this week so you would actually go higby be in Thomas and then Howard even though Evans's out you don't like Oj Howard's role to expand beyond Ian. Thomas Yeah as I like that most Higby has been just massive massive part of their passing game like like. I said he's like their defacto number to this point and then he and Thomas to me is just getting tons of volume so Yeah I liked. I like them in that order. Haig Thomas and Howard and if you God forbid you can't get any of those three and you have to pick up the backup to either chaired cook. Josh Josh. L. In New Orleans or Nick Boiler Hers Baltimore if you have to pick one of those three who would be I guess hearst because again that's dependent on if Andrews doesn't in play but I like her just because the ravens funnel so much of their passing game through the tight end position more than any other team in the NFL tight ends get volume in that offense and so when you're streaming you WANNA chase volume. You don't want to chase some random hope of a touchdown. You WanNA chase targets targets. And so I think he hers who was a first round pick by the way I think could be a bigger part of that passing game You Know Game Plan and everything if Andrews's Andrews's out I saw a stat the just today that he he ran twenty something miles an hour twenty miles an hour In the game last week and that was the fastest. Assist anyone on the team had run all year which is extremely extremely hard to believe all right. Let's get into some running backs running back news as we. Josh Jacobs misses first escape procreate with a shoulder injury the Jaguars and then guys in Washington he had another knee. Injury Mc L.. Sprain obviously guys Miss Twenty two thousand acl Tehran and then he just returned a week. Eleven after Tears meniscus and we won Rashad Penny our beloved bells fells Rashad Penny. So bad shot up into Rhode Bells for sharp penny has a likely season ending injury. He is in fact out for the season. And then both scarborough who had just been kind of Taken over in Detroit and was kind of lovable and he has a rib injury late in the fourth early in the fourth quarter didn't return. We don't know if he's going to play. And then there's just Derrick Henry who is is probably fine but he's playing through a hamstring injury that flared up a bit. You never know with instruments so D K if you have to replace a running back this week. Where you're looking at? I would probably add Adrian. Peterson Peterson Hold on actually I think so. Mostert is not necessarily the remastered. Sorry Remo sturt that's how you pronounce it. I've been told we've we've kinda messed around with this. All Year regime oester 49ers. He's fifty one percent owned If he's still in your league absolutely go pick him up because he he's now he's the number one running back for the second most heavy running offense in the NFL he needs to be owned one hundred percent six exactly. So we're he mustered number one on my my list of top running back. Add slash dreamers is number one ad this week period. Yeah I would say after that. A couple of guys come to mind. Adrian Peterson percent. I think is a good ad if you're looking to replace guys or if you just need an extra flex option he's roster and thirty nine percent of Yahoo Leagues. He's been running pretty well of late hundred seventy five yards ars in two touchdowns in thirty three carries over the last two over the last two weeks. He gets Philly next week which is not a great match and then he gets the giants in week sixteen and we know what well we need to know about the giants Defense Dantonio about the giants defense. What China and we've seen? The redskins are absolutely dedicated indicated to the Ron. I mean they'll count hander. Interim head coach is an old school. You know offensive line coach. They're gonNA feed. Adrian Peterson with guys out. So He's absolutely and get the volume He'd be number two on my list. I put number three Dondra Washington. The raiders going forward. If Josh Jacobs who has a you reported what is it broken shoulder or something broken Shoulder Blade. He might not play going forward. We're we're still unclear. It's Monday night. We're not sure exactly actly. What his status is but he's been playing through it over? The last few weeks wasn't able to go this week and if they shut him down Gender Washington becomes lead back. Thirty dominated carries for the raiders. Last week he's only owned in six percent of Yahoo Leagues yet. Fourteen carries fifty three yards and score six catches for forty three yards. Twenty one point point six. Pr Point so if he's a star going forward that's a huge huge gift for the fantasy playoffs and then finally Patrick layered of the dolphins going up against the giants. This week he is. I wouldn't say an explosive runner buddies reliable pass catcher so NPR leagues especially. He has value Just because he's getting a large amount the passing game action in that in that often so That'd be my list so it'd be Moster Adrian Peterson De'andre Washington and Patrick Leonard. Wrap all that up. Let's say your quarterback situation set you can add. Would you rank most their number one Zach Paschal receiver for the colts number two. And then maybe in Thomas title number three like how would you order that. Let's say you need all the positions equally. Like how would you compare most thirty in Thomas and all those guys you love. I would say where he moster would be my number one ad I think. Hey be she is up there as long as Gerald ever out. I would add higby Ian Thomas and then I'd say I go to the streamers. We talked about our receiver. Aj Brown Zach Paskal And Adrian Peterson I think are all going to get starters. Reps in the volume is what you're chasing in this case. And so yeah Moster Higby Thomas Thomas. Aj Brown and then rg three. Obviously Robert Griffin all right. Let's get to sleep or stream of the week which picking one fantasy flex Alexa running back. Receiver tight end owned less than forty percent of leagues. The guy the most points that we can get the person who picked him the win and dude. This was devas- this is now a moot category. It's over baby. Craig's got a runaway. Going on right. Now this was heartbreaking because as soon as I started doing great things in that game outscoring scoring Alvin Kamara by like three times I was like wow I feel so smart. I'm doing great and then. Aj Brown who we pick for our fender lineup. Turn around and screwed be thirty. Three point right six points to touch on one hundred fifty yards I think. Aj Brown was top three or four total points for for all players this week. So Welton all done Cravo Craig Is Pretty Good Week for picking for the sleeper stream of the week. My Guy Anthony Miller had a touchdown. I mean. He didn't do as well as your guys. But three catches is forty two yards of scores of all of our guys double digit points. So good about it. I can't believe stare at two touchdowns I lost not over this con- begrudging congratulations. Congratulations to Craig. So this puts the score at five two two two two. Yeah Craig's literally. Both days combined Craig- Craig's like the regular James Holt's hour of sleep or stream of the week. He's just dominating. This has to be the crazy football. podcast he goes picking this week. Let's get this I'm I'm GonNa go the aforementioned higby of the rams we don't need to get into it anymore. He's just been a massacre. That passing game so yeah. I'm going to be the rams. I'm wrong with Chris Conley. I just think that the Jaguars are going to be able to take a couple of shots on five like I think there will be five. Twenty passing five plays of twenty plus passing passing yards in this game and I think Chris Conley gets two or three of them. And one goes for a touchdown. All right going Chris Conley I like it although I wanNA give shadow to Isaiah Ford who. I'm not picking because we have no. It is devante Parker Album Wilson. Play this week but if both Parker will serve out Isaiah Ford against the giants is intriguing. They go. I'm going with Zach. Pascal thirty five percent announced plans saints getting a lot of targets. I like his chances. You're like the Patriots Week. Seventeen play four. But you're just going for in any way exactly all right. Fantasy court is finished. Quilt is finished. Record is not in session this week because of the rash of injuries there was a request for a stay in. That request was granted so oh that motion we will have finished court next week. Maybe we'll double up to make up for it. Courts are backlogged these days. So it's okay. Thank you too Craig. Thank you to decay everyone who was hurt. We hope all of you get better. Everyone in the Finnish clubs. We wish you the best of luck the.

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MONSTER Turns Five Years Old

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MONSTER Turns Five Years Old

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Whether this bile it's just human Bil- everywhere I love fourteen to ten football the well when we first met on the web that was the first thing you said to me I thought it was strange at the minutes nineteen points twelve rebounds on eight of ten from the field including three of three from three I have a tape it was like Oh this is this barstool like Mac book nine Blake literally the ninth one house like yeah ever been yeah are you just you wanted to keep it I I told him since I had to record tonight I was GonNa hold onto this and I'm GonNa Turn Tomorrow Care What you do the era I think multiple teams should be trying to trade for Andre German right now this is not a new take you've had this yeah because he was like he thought I was like making it up that this was slow in old and then today he had to like deregistered or something trading for him I think you'd help your Celtics I think the clippers sneakily have enough to give up for him just because they have so much shit if they wanted to go out on the city Houston's close diamond Miami Pittsburgh is the game of the hour is that what you're watching you better believe probably but if the clippers clippers right now and I'm really trying to do this for for the next several years I'm I'm looking at what the USB built into them so that's that's technology at its finest stake that's fair you didn't have teams in Mayes was from the Detroit's because it'd happened a golden state in the final year and even if they're they are gonNA hold onto win tonight like that that depth I know it's intriguing it is interesting because he's he's he certainly has value I just don't know what it would even look they shouldn't WanNa pay him but now that no blake's again I really don't know they just wanted to move on I I couldn't even blame there translate what else happened the Piston di- did you see the end up Pistons Pacers I did not only check on the player prop there which one knowing that I'm keeping him in resigning just because it's trade for for a piece but man oh man if you already have enough which they probably do and then having that debt that's such a luxury all the time out to call the blitz that's the first time I've football live tanking like wow right yeah that was wild but it wasn't even like us he's never played with a good point Gar now is your housing and is free throw rate and percentage keep going up like there awesome Blake Blake like he really just don't know if he's ever going to be healthy yeah I think the hawks who trae for earth should consider I think they want I think they could do both to hurt the warriors in year five this is a two year project so we were in and out potentially I I don't think there's any way you can look at five years down the road anymore honestly no fisher not that they would but I think Oklahoma City Dallas would be interesting because porzingas certainly doesn't WanNa play the five to the Lakers Anthony Davis don't WanNA play the five the Lakers yeah but like drums wild durable he's still young he's the best rebounded generation he gets a lot of steals for somebody inside leash you consider I think Sacramento I think Toronto nothing Washington just the name of because I think those are two very different things yes he Lebron it looks like forced him to play the five for the ZAC shame yeah they could certainly get I'm not saying you should about Dallas just because porzingas looks great but he's still getting four rebounds a game so that's just not going to be option than maybe I should get seventeen again here's like blitz but not really just like I don't actually sack him since some of the guys don't get home but if you just get to st it'd be alright like because he's he doesn't have one of those crazy high deals that would make like all we have to give up x amount of players just even matt salary ever been in like a great defensive scheme no probably not I feel like he could adapt to it it was only gonna be decent a restricted and then like three the main guys went off the board the night before so it's GonNa be nothing so I'd be trying to trade for drumming I can see him not wanting to take that beating for the most of the when it matters he's GonNa play the fire but it's not gonNA matter God like unplayably bad anymore which is regular bad but you can do and also like for all the steals and blocks he gets I'm also not sure he's which is all I hear about for regular season he's GonNa play the five to close games is going to play the five yeah so that's why I don't that makes Fitzpatrick's third interception of the day probably this is the first time I've ever seen live tanking was third and twenty the spacing random is forty two year old Dudley contagious call we'll poke who might be he's one of the bottom five worse players and didn't like if Joint Howard playing good once isn't like Oh we don't need anything but just credit to him he good I'm not sure if ad like refusing to play the five or is he refusing to play the five when Kentavious call will pope is spacing. That's why I don't think it'd be crazy and whoever betrayed affords like yeah this is who we would sign this summer because in the summers frequency is GonNa Stink it's a it's fair cagey used to do that all the time to up until like post post surgery cagey they didn't have enough that'd be very funny although Dwight twos credit looked really good yes it's B for net for that to be my spacing fuck you do I our deal with it news frankie smokes finally blade her what happened I mean Desma Juniors feelings were very much hurt by I wasn't fucking with you later bureau stinks almost like well yeah yeah that's me coupon clippers beverly frequency book is in his AAC gotta bucks man he's got the next five years I there would be what forty two forty three tremendous quote could lord they need a wing bad who la the Lakers within my game doesn't change in any way ochre so take my corner does yeah sure sounds good Nineteen fifteen and five game and based on how random that stat is you know the only other one is Lebron James Dead Susan minus three over six over four jury bounced to assist did exactly light the world on fire but ask you ball at work the bowls the bowls of seemed to figure it out smooth like seven I seventy five percent of AH you're on disability soon you're not taking anything turn dirty thirty as I am Lori got their first bucket though Otto porter auto okay elevated Misa Misa three more important news kevin knocked at fourteen point seventeen minutes off the bench aided and more important in half the other night when this is what always happens with anthony like this it's not gonNA force thing that's when the game is ready to be one when playoff time he was just like man I'm a four perks got that sounds like our sure but in the meantime could you stand Geico outs looked the other next got their first win shot the next the bulls haven't heard much I keep hearing RJ's looking good but I haven't had the game last twenty-five percent well to be furious the hardest part man they're making baby steps the Metro Robinson that's tremendous of a big fan of that Pat Riley Eighty six eighty four the Miami heat triple overtime on Sunday afternoon I can't wait till you you just need a win in the worst way you're like alright Siaka plus two points but the raptors went by exactly fifteen night before you should've seen him in warm ups man I couldn't Miss Toronto said he was hot by the knicks crowd themselves yeah I can see that happening it was ugly fragging smoke got twenty two minutes the first ever NBA die. Plus I'm Yulia Okay I'll get ten bucks mcdonagh's method probably kill for a minus three one of these days teams Minnesota Shit that would be incredible stuff just knew every everyone who was like his age an older age just in case they were trying to drop that he was like man you hear about the yeah even if you're beverly you gotta be like Shit Goddamn minds I gotta think he knew my gives minutes big minutes yeah in Rondos Nice by not spacing so if he's like yeah I'm not beating I'm not going to be good it's absurd they know what they're doing like I was GonNa say twenty five along with plus thirty odd with that much better neither happened and I just pass it the Yannis every single time guys incredible I can understand why do that Mason Rudolph I have to tell it like it is shocks Oh wow scores fifty those stupid this this this all powerful attack they really they really star j Barrett Julius Randle Marcus Morris Masino Mon is yet there's just because I haven't Washington stumped he he became a second teenager ever tonight with walks the hawks covered against Philli poor Moshe did they also with two Oh yeah tough and holding a lead for I believe wants and beat killed John Paul and then comes in ready to play you probably coast appropriate tells me your adjusting to what needs to be done L. Shahbuddin look bad now he didn't coach backup quarterback not a good feel last night they should and I've bears fools to make some sense Homini other teams there would have been like well we just gave this free agent a bunch of money we have to play him over the rookie who is clearly better after several misses from everyone else I saw the NCI almost the twenty five in the win he scored twenty four the Vegas Soap mm-hmm Bridgewater Kyle Allah to yesterday yesterday was tough Your backup quarterback the say I follow a disproportionate amount of of Jaguars fans and like half of at least half he's all right man yeah I think I mean he's okay I guess my my players on the books I follow a does not let a touchdown Juju which is like the last thing I need there all of them are convinced that it's just foles job no matter what when he comes back Gardiner keeps he's not even just that'd be might be bad summer saying that'd be incredible August things that I mean her to Your Point Belgium's coaching backup for some twenty years now that's what I'm saying like if you she works it works they went by fourteen God damn it cost three Eighty Down Bay not a backup Russell Wilson was like can we just take this guy just adjust to what he does well Seattle doesn't get it they've already got their answer but if you're the bears would you give up a four well tyler the WHO did do you know if we've seen cash out on that I first points now he got a crack at it to miss I think grab a hundred on the vaunted cavs defense good snafu Janas guys going places holding water he's looking good there clearly better like he's the best Jaguars quarterback I've ever add Byron I I follow a disproportionate amount of come on dolphins the bears don't have any draft picks due to going all in on this defense and quarterback so the look on big cats else keeps getting hit and I don't know why he's even attempting playing football anymore kind of almost feel like if your coach I was I mean he had a good run nothing to hang out the bucks became the first team Detroit again that's not terrible this is kind of what foles does Oh yeah I'd have to think about it and I don't know if any other four three damn that's where the probably switch but other than him and that like that stretch garage had for a while it's meant you ears are only three and four yeah they're last place because that division but three three and four with a positive point differential tough thing I don't like you give whatever but do you think you'd get a third form for foles there so I I do that now our beat stores coulter to see right now which I know terrifies you yeah they're my head I the way big that was talking today I would have thought they were already owns like they had already clinched Owen sixteen they're only three and four they need to get it together that's why I'm saying like you think fold they're not all the way out of it they just lost three straight but cert- certainly moves that could be made about so it's like I don't know where else they traded to Tampa Bay Tennessee those feel like offseason moves as today was just discussed it's rough man that's another thing Nagin can you coach or can you not if you're consistently look terrible and like nothing changes if you could get a third yeah I think it'd be fourth 'cause also you're coming off that money that's what I'm saying like whatever they can get it broke plan the penny slots of sports gambling out to score ninety six point he looked good eh Philadelphia I've noy Philadelphia no clue Detroit I don't think Detroit's good at the rams that could be good than the giants at and pink cows like I disagree let's go with a rookie and seems to have worked and would rather find out what the Jaguars foles can come back and since McDermott Scott there there's are averaging buffalo when when their defense up again they have see stinks. Jj Watt might just be done getting out we can't stay at inst- ANYTHING MEDIOCRE TO BAD offense they dominate when they play at top ten offense they get fucking just points rained on their heads. Where's IT I believe in Baltimore in Baltimore Sunday night football wildcards best hope in there in the League for Oh yeah I know that's what I made their playoff team but like that's why I'm just trying to Suss out teams bucks although there like Jacoby is the only one I've seen win in New England out of any we've recent colts quarterback fair he wasn't the quarterback of the colts when it happened but listen he's done it more than we're worst places to be for sure but come playoff time it would appear to be that you're only in the the seahawks win was a good one for their defense but on about the Seahawks Baltimore's defense appears to be when when it's up against like a mediocre to bad offense they like those over those sustainable Kansas City the second and third chances I would say I saw a stat today that Baltimore's ballot check about Lamar Jackson he's really fucking good the Internet disagrees so I don't know bills losses touch and now that's he almost called it you know it up last time he got really hurt he toured the petkoff the bone bats as disaster coach can you not know it appears to be cannot Matt Patricia Coach I say what was was there that was in the rain right yes those the Seattle yeah to be worried about we got Baltimore coming off a bye this week so that's that'll be an interesting test because I believe in their defense It definitely I mean they for what their their defense had looked like even rain no rain whatever it was it was better showing than I third defense still stinks but once bombs gets back I like I assume he'll be all right everyone disappears keep getting healthier and healthier from injury train them in Houston it's like your only job now is to give them the playoffs behavior in games I don't know what that means fills rare feels like faded and now they're gonna week off Marcus Peters is there a on say definitely the Denver Super Bowl run winning games by one and just survive in advance either that or they finished like six ten Ben that was wild is the kids say even Steven one hand half dozen coats number two seed right now with a plus seven differential after seven top fifteen offenses more often than not except for your own which will not be a top fifteen placement like they're they're not winning a division anyway that that son of a bitch finally gave me the new laptop today but the new laptops don't have sir I can't probably the second and third best teams in the division in their fifth and sixth right now the young and calm oh you know that was listen if your ox fan obviously you've you've gotten a little greedy probably the undefeated start but plan philly tamper Tennessee just wants to go into the offseason like yeah we already got our guy yeah take this into this year next year yeah they're four and four still tied for last before and four so they're not adding anything yet the AFC stinks quarterback healthy. That's your only chance maybe even Baltimore to now Houston I dunno like just picturing them come into like a very cold foxborough and walking out of there with a wind sus is not something that computes in my brain oh boy Lebron James similar except close Kinda Brandon Bass if they played right now I would take the saints Payton's at least seen Shanahan's offense recently recent enough multiple times a year planes that's him now to two thousand one not two thousand nine zero to two thousand one Berry Division and whatnot so I feel like he's and it wasn't the same offense obviously he's opened up a lot more says he's gotten to San Francisco all times starting to be all time stuff I think we've got like maybe three all-time defenses like arbox. Oh Wow this is in terms of what dominance I guess I think they like the forty niners deviant is for the Saint Stephen is really good the forty nine Stevens House take over the weekend that the announcers just kept comparing who do you think he was comparing chase young do not a football player ah deserve the benefit of the doubt let them just shoot the saints better than the forty niners take the saints you think the four nine would beat the scenes Ebi really interesting because I do think picking up Emmanuel Sanders was huge Kazan another target kittles a monster and that front seven I dunno boot the the bosses are it might not we'll see John especially be put up ten on the Carolina Panthers a few weeks ago and now it's still September when that happened Mario almost murdy pretty sure once he comes out with a hot one oh boy would be nice quite bootstraps as a whole coalition but boy are they gonNA football poet Mac and wait to hope chase young say something out online I know he's going to be yes and basically the panthers both Cook for the backup quarterback breeze getting yesterday now the saint owner we're still really good too so I feel like this he he's got the the the skeleton of it it is mind were some other coaches might not The kind of things were just like I don't I don't against this defense I don't see it in the panthers might be good they get house yesterday but they still have damn to take chase you Jae Kyung as terrifying Caleb said during the Wisconsin I have no idea what they ruled it doesn't look like teams do either all they're measuring oh boy halo boosts saying the comparison was trying to be like he doesn't have the high pitch count but when it when it gets one he he hits out so it's like from the dolphin might just went chase young and Lawrence Yeah I don't hate it or eleven first round picks they just of the steelers haven't won a challenge since twenty sixteen look pleased the one this is very funny Tomlin he's so mad that the what is it that means something I just saw him it seemed to work for him the I love Judy but Anita Marazion so that settle that'd be fire we already got the first heavy rail start yet four to remeasure Fitzpatrick's on the field and the steelers offense on the field okay we simply do not WanNa pay week we can win with anyone back here we're not giving them that contract we truly whiskers blog and we're trading Patrick Mahomes I don't even know terrible at challenging or I'd football or both both terribly challenging the opposition backup quarterback and they do to get them to bad soren three nick he's like I just want to win one side can't beat the Patriots let me when a challenge than the damn game awesome just because I think the NBA like told the to like ages just challenge it we want to see what's happening okay no better way to measure I down this multiple middle-aged man not what I want some sixteens I can't I don't even know that it's possible Marty morning wages live in it I think I think teddy should take that route we're talking about that today and I do want to it's like what doesn't want to challenge before month girl's just point that out I most of these coaches are just challenged aw parents are just living life the New England patriots to just yeah you're just like thirty one day they had I don't I generally don't know what's happening so some mute they I think they do reset the chains where they were before you're just the guy I could also see like he gets like a false jaguars type but I really think if he's willing to at sports let's say two they won this one is a terrible towels away Tomlin does you'd just one year like Fitzpatrick he'll run up eighty million dollars he also might like Jacoby his way into I don't know Michael Thomas has got paid Gerbil Kamara was not a first round picks up his his deals up year sooner he's Aram fighting it out right now yeah it's also like nineteen Owen eighteen but I on the field the whole game but what is on the field like oh it's a sack year planning linebacker he's and obviously old so be quite the same but he might just be like right place right time get that I don't WanNa say unearned bag but might just be I this'll be electric for like Ellie do with me not being able to watch oh bad tom again nineteen thirty three that's the last time I wanNA challenge busse doing a Lotta Yellen in Pittsburgh Rivas got arrested for less I've never we play the jets a lot we played like the mid-2000s bills we played that whole Brown's real best people are hooting and Hollerin I don't know what happened since Patrick is not leaving the fields I can't wait to one of the streets in the NBA aide province have never been like bottom out bad until this year I've never and I want to repeat never see hot do they didn't even go to commercial just to keep it on him oh boy I superior to draft out of the way the Bengals Herbert let them let them go and waste that Jewish fallen four yeah arguing but he probably right I think he might just want to get it Like Christian Wilkins last the I can't believe it he's like if I lose another one of these was the one boy it'll happen the and Yeah Lawrence Guy I've had to have been first career interception I refuse to believe he had one before that tweak like just send me home man I don't WanNa be here again you the rest of us do get your ass over there Klay White Man I was like clay can't wait to bash tale so I don't know if you are they I didn't know that Camp Hale pretty good how much is that as breeze though that's next level thanking weather's next live on employees who could this coming guy that hot six sweep the browns I don't know they're just like wildly undisciplined Freddie kitchen cities like figuring it out on the job I don't think you can say that like I can only be one guy put this in prison holy smokes I have it we wanna lock you in before you get too pricey for us here's like three sixty something like that on the with the same thing in three turnovers on three consecutive plates especially when the last one is the quarterback underhand pitching it forward to our defensive linemen not once tyler run or ten week run but as quarterbacks coach could be a head coach while it was a bad idea they're all just standing still chains I need this to be a first down so yeah it's it's not looking great Odell you can't just you just can't be calling Another quarterback the goat in front of your own Klay White Man he he we're GonNa but lather right now travis quite yeah uneven happened. NBA By boy nick nurse came in he was I guess fourteen feet away that's the money shot gather all the spoelstra guys at work their way up so yeah this couches running tape last year now he's the head coach of the Memphis Grizzlies isn't nfl coach took the false Ari took the delay of game one of Bernie's last time every team is looking for an early fifties guy with glasses that run some sort of innovative off it could work we're GONNA see now I don't even know if he's talking to when when your whole persona has shifted that's terrible side it's so hard to change it makes fun of the browns in a minute but we were talking about that today he he might just be all set New Orleans I can see that I can see them just being like no I can't believe you didn't drop it decided you shock shock like because his hands weren't catching position Can you do the movement add Bell Acre kind of just threw it looked like he threw a baby at him he's his own you forget I did feel bad for next job because I liked nick job but it got peanut punch man what can you do. AP's like a man and really wasn't that bad I had some shit going on but you can make it work severe hail look on Mike he's just throwing it out their lack I don't know dude I just wanted time out do authorities on the fluid Odell sprinting over to Brady after the game to give them the Khalid's right in front of Baker was that was ugly I didn't care for it Wilson Explains Extremely low seven that's exactly what the hell that's no fun whether Wchs Day I'm in bigger bakers like a broken man but our focus better sleep better style get fifteen percent off today with free shipping and returns by going to 'em the MT Dot Com listen close personal friends to your fundamentally is a person when it happens because football I don't know how you come back from that pointing the finger that's how you come back from Tom Slash mix tape joined the move to join the movement if you haven't listen we've been telling you to join the does video games scrolling right before bed that's why I started wearing movement ever scrolled blue light filtering glasses ever scrolled blue light filtering glass started just sixty five dollars with the office scrolling through your phone or unwinding from a long day ever school glasses have you covered they're back I don't care if it's true or not you can't do it to be silly about it gas we'd be on a gentleman bakers things Someone tweeted us some Pete Pete Wells said somehow stumbled upon movement for a smooth decade. How long have we been doing this program several for night depp if you haven't already joined the that sounds about right for me I knew I spend twenty four hours at a time looking at my screen between my phone work Binging News Ooh Yeah fixture is fellow were Lady Yeah Yeah hurt too thought it was gonNA Walk Right out of the stadium drive home with all the way back to Cleveland like in full full pads he's walking on the interstate and his floors Josh he has handsome report with John Moran Yeah they went thirteen and sixty nine who knew awesome quarterback claim by the Chicago Chicago card nosed has long been the subject of controversy all right the controversy centres on the suspension of Pottsville of the Pottsville Maroons by the NFL Commissioner Joseph car which prevented them twenty-five National Football League Championship so far I love the year Okra Noth- nothing good could have happened in one thousand nine hundred eighty five Tommy Shelby I don't know what to these leaks the Clintons really yeah you just it's a guessing game every bill to protect your eyes from the blue light snow to cause is strain discomfort and poor sleeping time typically guess we get three and usually the third ones the money one listed they're all the same the first eighteen Ashikaga Ohio school players to play the Milwaukee Badgers under assumed names to ensure a cardinals victory Chicago played one two more games against week? NFL opponents bower sanctioned because the Chicago player art foles hired four ah I think it was the second one uses walk my hate even wait for the challenging even wait to see where position at the ball boy slash mix eight shop movement ever scroll blue light filtering glasses protect your eyes and look great doing go to Mvm d dot Com was paying I imagine like Chicago fans to be like hey guys Zia to run on the GRA- imagine if like Bella checks like you know what we've got the by DOC they eat the suspension was on the grounds that they had violated the territorial rights of the Frankford Yellow Jackets I assume twenty five people were just like dying frequently because of the flu like it was very fluid roster construction left tackle kid we're standing in front of your digital screens how many hours how many hours in a day twenty four letters of the exact same the part that's cut off that you need to see can't read it but let me ask you something the the Chicago Cardinals won it worked oh by now I've got a question your commitment to us at this point and to yourself man with the best record of the League right seems pretty good however car suspended and remove the team from the NFL after they played in unauthorized exhibition game in Philadelphia get you haters right we want you is it wearing is that he's in our head that's how bad you've got you in a box Arma Baghdad to was only smash mouth football now helmets we don't need it where jets you all want more will replace we were hot right now all every maroon the maroons were one of the dominant teams of the nineteen twenty five season and after defeating the Chicago cardinals on December six came man we we schedule the game against just another. NFL team that wasn't already on our schedule we also one that and our championship was taken away from us these guys hired some some freckled face glasses wearing tweeds to play for Milwaukee and we we steamrolled them basically central Florida through a blind anything can happen it worked out like ten dollars an hour yeah I probably play some out it's a safety you know I could definitely covered Moose in the greatest NFL controversy ever. I haven't read against so this we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA find this out together whether or not this is good the nineteen as this current football game the dolphins might should hire some high schoolers we sure they don't have so yeah but still do play Milwaukee I don't think so some four Chicago High School football players walkie bad imagine like so Chicago. NFL Game High Score was much much dumber the Mar- current level dumb dumb the planet it'd be one of those they might get loose a couple of times for the most part every other play they're just getting washed out much stronger guys the number one quarterback in the nation right now playing against the bengals to his youngest brother. I The quarterback outside of Kicker quarterback would be the one that would have the most success who now what happened right now for high school left tackle went up Bonn Miller more just the has been in the hospital minutes later what happens Texas and not the Jacksonville Jaguars Aj as got and pots but we don't care I'm a big fan of the story strong when he's just a motte like an absolute mountain of a man like six six three hundred pounds like all like he basically looks like Myles Garrett McMahon confirm mini hours a day the average person spins in front of the screen is it not also twenty four like like you and I yeah may seventeen year old may I'm like that little is Bella check now I'm about to foil his plan and then Richard C in story in my like my Richard Seymour story now now that's that's it that was all screen shot that was to me it digging Jones I'd be furious if I was one of these Pottsville maroons right I think some receivers could have some success by Jared Judy Okay some success well Jerry Jerry especially Justice plan on the other side of the ball von Miller would turn them into a Swiss cheese and to snaps into the game I can't even imagine it's the Sean though that's only it is that's the only thing man like I he might just be special we might find out we might be finding out now you see that five star left tackle that allows states getting they went viral last week under the weekend before every single run blocking just getting thrown to the ground he's like boy this is different I don't care for this I wish this was still you're looking at cross Dick Nigerian lane just to Belgian coming up to me and my POWs like listen if you guys play for the jets stiff plate I'm new nice to meet you seventy how much would you have been paid in high school to plan and the four high schools to plan that other team so what were the people on the other team who these these fresh week we're GONNA win the Super Bowl sound good by some soda pops is that what you like an Alka dress is two quarters the yeah I feel like a high school quarterback if he had like the eagles look good past offensive line the Eagles Line fifteen hundred I just googled Bryce Harper Yuko stats going onto the junior college world series hyper was hitting four forty to five twenty four nine eighty six with twenty nine home runs eighty nine rbi eighty eight runs in eighteen stolen near college baseball and both homers and RBI despite being only seventeen years old the league right now right it's rare but it just seventeen year olds saquon Barkley up eight happen and we're like how long was bryce on the miners he wasn't there very long trump was busy or like some some polling guard they don't see coming around the edges clear to smoking cleats flavor generation yeah like politics though WHO's an office today and we were talking about player like a spear at at Ryan Fitzpatrick Boyd Balls linebackers all the high school linebackers sixty two total yards on eleven edges maybe a couple of times he tried to pass block and get thrown at the quarterback yeah I mean anything on the offensive lines the funniest to imagine like some high school high school center and Aaron Donald just literally picks them up and throw them like go straight from college to the MLB in the same year which has been happening somewhat more frequently as opposed to the never I feel like it used he was there a pretty sure longer than Bryce wasn't balanced he did yeah okay Brian Right right fair it's just not gonNA Matter Kelsey legit six six to fifty five or whatever basis how many games do you think that was thirty seven who sixty two it was it was leading all of man were like if you took I mean we've seen this is actually a terrible ninety eight pounds as I just go on sideline to sideline but boy oh boy kid who's about to seventy buddy this words it is very funny like I feel like Baseball's the sport it's easy question I'm going to say the best high school basketball player and put him on the court they probably probably be fine oh man I don't know he wouldn't like elite five star but it was like one t hit it was like Oh boy this guy just physically he could probably be S. senior he at five eighty three but only like eleven home runs because there's not that many games another opium was two oh two oh boy when he got a hold of one good Lord I think what about one of those things where he really likes royal boy this is the end of the land a lot of jokes or I'm going to be a trillionaire I don't basketball's pretty good boy after the All star break towns is just good for thirty avenues eighteen so bright rice game when he was seventy dropped out of high school he was eight did like hockey he thought of this I'm way too good that's awesome nice to see like in season growth just because there's such a large sample size and it's just like this guy really is really stunk it up and really escaped on that Andrew Wiggins Generational School Dalat the loss of seven Gino Hack into living in the back it doesn't come from Ron's on I sit him out right now I need to keep his trade value that'd be yeah I guess thinks as it's not great but beat the hell out of the heat go to Kentucky Boy Oh boy a one two yeah that'd be tough tough guys who the thing Jimmy Butler is like I get how much time exactly all right we'll be back in fifty seven hours He stunk for the first month but if they just kept feeding them at bats just would have been a terror the second half I've got one hundred fifty at bats I figured this out April and then around June like he just fixed like his swing and they weren't able to just punch amount with curve balls anymore now is the best player on the team okay so you lis- you few finally finally found the limit now he's the best player in the League Pretty Good Lady Williams I've seen him a multiple games now guard point guards and centers on the same possession stonewall them both aimed asset he's going to be the first person fine for contract or conduct detrimental is teen just for being completely healthy that's how bad he would he can't get the inside of his faith no he sure can't We gotta give props now like I was killing prove me wrong please Andrew do it again I don't think you got any now rookies and younger guys are looking good sooner yeah it's trying to think who else is I get this out of the way quick like Miami doesn't even really Miss Jimmy Carr's Kendrick nuns just been out top five player in the League yes good good for them yeah no good team bonding done of Golden State's are but besides them own yeah no it feels like do they guy was cooking is rough on your own social media team account was like suspen he went to go play Juku promptly set all the records at junior let's losing collins set Dan Twenty five points you haven't been I haven't been slandering hard enough translate you mean locking down Kyrie with the game on the line pretty good midday meet their basketball it does use some special didn't you it's so funny four forty two years how they ever seen anything like it from what we call a twitter and the Biz Tennessee though Lankford big gas trying to I don't know if you saw that picture earlier but the whole team went to go see a movie today today and Boy Oh boy were they all on Pluto the majors that year though relating forty to forty eight hours hit like so yeah I was an overtime so the suns are one c timber wolves I just thought he he he had a baby that's why he was out how long he's out for that feels two warriors nineteen next month stinks Danny dimes DAK PRESCOTT RJ adjusting will giant ups and downs but the stretch of some what he did the days like Oh yeah no Isley funny the game of his life he can't mess from three they're like to the bench you go yeah I think they just yeah they just took the football Ryan Fitzpatrick sands then Jimmy Butler bracket I haven't seen a single Jimmy Butler thing oh yeah took took cover all of a game and a half to get comfortable he's he's he's fixed himself and he's he's on the Romeo's some of those zone run so they they break down the day after just silly just how it's it's like it's going out of style they're doing it too much I'd argue but also the forty niners cooking with it makes you think in eighteen in eight and that's just the average is now I mean are they worse than Sacramento Sacramento's beating Denver right now are they that sounds right he's earned a good guy I don't know if you've got destroyed true it's going to be thirty as well so he's got a lot going against them I think I know something is pretty good so far England's look good Kevin Coleman out of four touchdown game is just preposterous doesn't get forty five million guaranteed food that's no fun no now I I always I used to hold the opinion George kiddle He seems to be gaining speed and alarming rate not on care for this one so again like both brothers can't be good one one can be good but both of them Shirley not and for every running back could and they're the best team in the league they can't stop it that'd be very funny he's just like I thought that's what you did you came to America but despite being sometimes basketball show today was a very important day the trailblazers slice of the Spurs Suns are good from the great. I still don't get it costas needs buckets I know you're trying to get wilfred involved but I need you to take over Johan that teams making the playoffs I've found out it's worth the risk tuck out here he's named like Bryce Harper did if he was able to be play they like has tremendous waiting for USA they were all outrageously high literacy none whatsoever Lucky charm me what I I think it would be better honestly if the the back name plate wasn't I can't imagine being a defensive coordinator having to deal without a week F- like the week coming up being a clear the deal with this signed with the warriors you win championships durant it as a now what I was supposed to do the knicks go links up with the as initially reported by me fonts the Font Alabama painting running backs that's what I'll do I just can't believe people do look in New York New York they're going to La friend I can see Janas going to golden state though ESPN day before it beat the clippers beat the loss of the nuggets are one yeah and that was an overtime to wasn't it I think so where I I saw those 'cause trig text them to me and he he texted me about one thousand throwing up face emojis alongside them and the bosses and I don't know I think brother like I feel like the the obstacles this could really pick it up with the rest of them house only only has brothers I if if if there were team just of Avocados Ns Kanter's phone is awful both be true they're not like a teal ish baby blue color cantor just as the worst phone known to man either way those that pathetic strong we've had word Turquoise whatever that blue was I don't WanNa know like the the significance I these stir no whiten like what are these like like an Aau team named after the Charlotte Hornets uniforms look like what are we doing here green and gold let maybe some things just aren't for me to get lost didn't lose by one throwing the laws by one right they was I'll never be added green and gold the fault I never had a problem with because that's that's just like Irish people not knowing calligraphy that's just how we right because I have no problem with that oh my gosh too him and I was like why are we like I didn't WANNA look up why it was like some some -til or some I remember when we went all grey with sleeves those might be better than these these just horrendous that's not true I be okay with it trying to think of the legends who've Worn Eleven Marcus Banks Evan Turner well let me say one last basketball related you know those celtics jerseys are awful well you know dear God no And then I was like maybe the shorts will be fire then I was like I can't think that way no no so yeah it was boy oh boy yeah you can't be dropping blue jerseys that a NS kantar just in listen we might we might be on the brink of an all time like Dennis Green level post game could be pathetic okay have multiple trashman's it's no there's no worrying oh I like the black ones I still don't care for that's an obstacle bow with his fourteenth field goal tonight in eleven eleven might be a curse number going back to hang it up bring back Marcus banks I bet you don't the players don't at Boston and that was now we've had someone else in there for still mad bat press conference from him a press conference from Luiz he's the Senate he was like the Celtics told me to tell you that they're not blue green and gold all right I'll inform the rest of the Internet you have much wider looks like they're going left I they brought it back right sir turn my I suppose like Chicago they might be like waiting for you outside the stadium like tweeting how bad you stink with just everybody just now bear rj bear and Kyrie Irving both agree Flores stinks ah like when you when you bring in like steady and just regional rappers like is there shoot yeah if you have seven point clear I know you WanNa give people these take shot I'll do it the letter k. like you just can't take green away from the Celtics you just can't that's the way you do luckily they didn't ns you're a worst city to have the rappers furious at how bad you stick at sports than Chicago I don't think there's even a close second New York would be great just like the standard one like if you're gonNA do that go all out I don't either but them when I first saw them and I was like they gave him a long leash to it was like you could tell I can't believe this level of quarterbacking for my professional franchise herbal hit my maligned he believe it either the bears like I'm telling you manage play last game some attention so I'll I'll make these blue Kyrie irving experience all over again this is great they're just in every because you've been tweeting about it nonstop I keep going to his timeline like did he tweet anything else nope just that one reached me I don't know I have to do this but all right the believe it coming from you don't believe me all right I'll I'll send out the good word aw it's it's saying like I'm not even connecting like on my computer the Mike No to me I think it's preposterous to suggest anything otherwise boulder days you think somehow sent the late it is the size year anniversary birthday what have you of monster take my chest was great is what I went to his time line I was like I can't wait to read the rest of his football tweets doesn't have any that's the only one yeah Herbert and love to and he even brought him some doom and gloom his ass like a beginning of the season he was like now reese it's early we've seen this before we can't jump to conclusions like November talk to skype like when we cropped out the first time it was like when I hung up connecting and that was that doesn't that's not a thing follow I didn't know I needed on the transitioning would you have a ball boy he's lil reese on on first day sitting across from Stephen A. is is the segment we need to see is an alarming afternoon. I'm glad it was dead like Dave text me Dave never tax me so when I got a text from day boy what did I do Lebron over Oklahoma City that I am now you're going to do this multiple times I understand way didn't even when 'cause honest came out like honest was the last thing dropped right before this at people are very split to the the tape that really put future or started at the time I don't I don't remember the Zach talk around it but it's you didn't do like that really happy uptempo rang that it normally does it just did like the the SOS Sonar lost at sea the long version uh-huh he deserves better but he knows on out even remember what we were discussing but it does so quickly after autos is outrageous first of all and it it just absolutely put like I get it into the football and his S. six here now believe me later some people who really like it consider it one of his best at another people who fucking despise that album and this you know it was the standard yet in the moment we were just like because those things are so beautiful nobody knew germs going to win six straight after the first of all yeah yeah doesn't that was getting his lead by okay all right just kept doing this is the standard now now for the game saints one case slain anything plane remains a foul of the best kept see they get our thing Lonsdale was just like it wasn't leftovers I'm sure people looked at it that way like Ali's is just leftovers that didn't make it but to come with this Gaon honest I like honest I liked it a lot when it dropped still revisit it I have no qualms with honest but and I've seen before doesn't seem great WANNA call back it was it kept doing it like he was busy yeah when I was trying to call you take you went platinum in the game I assumed that sounds terrible I great it today a very important day and both of our lives and so most of our listeners lives and you're just let him at counter three if your guy's not they're just throw it in duck running saquon was one of those yeah lyles same great stiff future like this it's the start of the rot the joint I ring the the Lakers who later this first one talk talk about this without talking about the run and I'm trying to not talk about the run since those next to a with a January march or something like that six nights came out a lot of people self included were like now there's no way he's dropped third and in less than a year even then like it was a few months between future workman when he gets on a roll he gets on a roll Oh yeah I remember when when every anniversary is coming up they're all coming up they have to because that's that's the one thing wayne literally can't do because he doesn't own any of those the lead up to dirty sprite to like all three of them delivered it was a yet and this was still this was though it wasn't intentionally but this was and then some it was and what a payoff but it's very funny to think up some commas came on there's mixed types but they are and he himself dubbed them as album quality mix tapes I find very funny but it's true they are album quality until this I guess most recent stretch who went on where I know a lot of people like yourself have Hendrix at the top streaming services here's what's what's take people have heard it we don't need it in the middle of this anymore error two albums within a week's time because I have two different types and I didn't want to combine them Mazdas got it all I'm looking at it yet in one county your future dude dirty sprite true story for breaks Gucci Astronauts Yeah it was like a boy I saw this before I saw him right before this case an Munster started started this particular run at Mazar today maybe tomorrow also who knows but monster death was watching Jordan hit the shot against a Georgetown data's and two more collapse this is where he goes yeah you just don't know when it started instrumentals these are all originals and needed Matt Him and the Internet and it was a free show this dropped and I I saw them September he was like y'all got some crazy shit on the way like Creighton yeah okay all right look hearing little did we know he was like no you don't understand in then future was like this is still getting spins I got I got a I got to get these streams office let's put it on dirty sprite to and then today when he put monster on I'd like monster it's do I don't WanNa make it out like dozen but by the time fifty six nate knights came out that really became the gold standard really shows his range and away like a lot of his projects are like are were on this for the whole tape we're on that for the whole album if you choose to do that yeah and these were the like I don't know it feels insulted doc no this is a one off only this one because the five years coming up for the next two that's time works I've been told I tried to dig out your old review bar for Bar Review throwaway on the ultra weather's fide guests is off the Internet entirely price for the best maybe but the what what worry about some fucking unexpected the first time I heard this this great top of the world now still wanted to re listen to it on daylight today because that was one of the better breakdowns I've heard of any song by any I was thinking about you talking about the change when I was re listening to the tape today when the change happened thousands like Manno men which I couldn't could be yeah he's a there's a lot of studio sessions I wish this means a lot would a vicious beat chain as awesome fucking kidding me what you'd have soon afterward you like it's not like Zeh Tobin is going to be like no you can't you can't live your through the Star and then you want clearly hit you on a very very Deep space in your your chest so better take with you it just gets any Russell Wilson highlights pull those up pull those up the specific point in time I remember where I was like what see I wanNA recorded that that's how that could have been in or at least had been recorded for me to watch later 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AFC West Breakdown + Vegas Super Bowl Picks

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AFC West Breakdown + Vegas Super Bowl Picks

"Hey Dan you enjoy this. Show you ready to rock this season. Football become part of the foot clan at joined the foot dot com. That's where our community gathered. That's where you have access to. All of our premium. Liam resources are in season tools and of course foot plan leagues the Fuck Lane Leagues you can find other people in your area or online and if you're in the joined the foot your unofficial Glam member you will be able to get in this two years. Check it out go to join the FOOT DOT COM hi. This is Josh From Louisville Kentucky representing the International Seven timezones Dynasty League and you're listening to the fantasy football podcast welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from Pristine auction dot Com studios with your hoes Andy Holloway Jason Moore and Mike Right <hes> welcome in brand new show a brand new day. Hey Mike a brand new day. Are you going to go brand new show brand new clothes because you're a little fashion Iseo. The cardinals going sixteen got an Arizona cardinals shirt on today signed very exciting vintage vintage yeah vintage. I got some cardinals kickers onto. That's the type of cardinal that does not exist in Arizona's a Saint Louis cardinals shirt on top of a football. You guys don't know this. I mean they used to be the Chicago cardinals. This is the Chicago cardinals shirt. I didn't know that so you try to outsmart me with a different wrong answer. No I was not talking about football. Oh it's the basal low specifying that he's on a full. Here's a here's a couple of things to get into we got A._F._C. West divisional breakdown the show today a good quick questions mailbag. We just got back from San Francisco. We made it out. Oh my gosh made it out alive. The show was rowdy. The people over here a lot of things to say but thank you for coming out. We went over after the show we would you play some shuffleboard. There was some unfortunate fans who thought they were gonNA shuffleboard but each lesson but we had to crush them you smoke them. Yeah wait look they started with a five one lead. They say oh and they said jump in here. Guys like you went out and then they got destroyed. They went falcons. Yes oh I not sure at the beginning of the show of anybody actually understood the words. You were kind of screaming but that you were talking about the mega lable. Yes is love La Bowl so this is the <hes>. Why don't you explain that for two seconds? Just it's coming later getting it yet but it is coming in the mega. lable is going to be a giant massive tournament with every foot clan member that wants to join up into that league into that league whoever wins automatic entry into Listener League the next year it's common it was it was time last year. Yeah the the Listener League will we'll talk about that too and coming weeks I mean August is almost here. We're going to through these divisional breakdowns. I mean what I did. A sneak up snuck up on me. Quick August is almost here. I know Listener League's going to get going. Wow August moves very silent yeah. He's still sneaky EST of months. Here's your question today. If you were a betting man as brooks poses the question I shall give Credit Kyle jumped in current Vegas odds stand out to you the most and why we have the super bowl odds that have been released coming out of Vegas for example the chiefs at six to one at the rams the Patriots in the Saints at Eight to one obviously. You've got Miami sitting there at three hundred the one that's how you win big. My Sixteen Arizona cardinals or sitting at one hundred one is there. Is there one specific line that I don't know you want in on for me. There were there were two that jumped out lago with the Philadelphia Eagles at twenty two one <hes> if I had to pick teams to represent their respective conferences it would be Philly in the colts so I I like their odds. Yeah the the colts. Were were my pick. They've been my where are there <hes> right now. They're the same the eagles yeah I mean. The colts are in Indianapolis Andy <hes> but the thing doesn't might joke for you yeah. They're twenty two one right now. It was hilarious I looked over in your face was so happy so that's <hes> that's appropriate so look I. I like the Colts as China's Nice my like current who who's my pick to win. All it's currently the colts and you know don't look twenty two one odds. I like it if you WANNA darkhorse. If you want like the longest odds that I think does have us shot I I would throw the Carolina Panthers out there at sixty to one at sixteen. That's not bad. That's not the couple teams are I liked it where it was Cleveland at twenty two one by the way they've got to be freaking out just about the odds. They don't even need to play the season yeah. They're wanting to one beautiful I like. I like the browns a lot. I think they're going to be better but that's just that's vegas stealing people's money yea so I went with a couple of mid tier options where I believe they could actually re improve. What is not now start over? Well Bounce back. I was trying to find a more through. I knew that was not right Jason Esque but did you know what I meant. I knew exactly meg a nice hype sleeper at both sitting at forty two one the Atlanta Falcons and the Jacksonville Jaguars okay who both I think could be we great again and forty one that that's a good line so you win big. It falls taking him to the Super Bowl. Look bortles almost did it. I would say their defense taken into the Super Bowl Atlanta. We've talked about their kind. They have this nice schedule when it pertains to Dome Games Warm Weather Games every single game on the season. It's it's where Matt Ryan plays. I call those room tempered his best. Yes room temperature. It's room temperature in here right now. Little always neidl stag religiously Arizona but but they do have a tough schedule. That's a tough division. I love Atlanta's a pick as DARKHORSE BIC for sure can be interesting to see who emerges. Somebody has to finish last in that division. I think Bruce Arians is going to have to accept Bruce. You can find this a show on YouTube YouTube dot com slash the fantasy footballers on instagram twitter at the F. F. ballers the websites the fantasy football dot com. We also appreciate everybody who is subscribing get on board five shows a week starting August I I was going to be fun a brand new season. I was encouraged hearing that there have been at least three small itty bitty baby meetings between the N._F._l.. And the N._F._l.. P._A. Yes because I would like football to continue indefinitely. It's my job all right. Let's get into <hes>. Let's get into some news news notes from around the League presented Vice Lieber Well Mel Melvin Gordon came out last week and said hey trend said hey. I'm not showing up without some money while Zeke it's it's being reported by pro football talk that Zeke is privately said he will hold out of training camp unless he gets a new contract I do you believe that this is as concerning as the Gordon News. I am not afraid Gordon not playing. I know Jason you are very afraid of that. Zeke has an extra year on those two left seems like maybe a flex and just miss training camp show up and do his thing yeah. The hard part for Zeke is when guys as go with this threat and they do miss time the fines that they accrue those end up getting Kinda. Just wink wink will we'll take them out. Here's your new contract but if he pulls this kind of a stunt and then there's no the actual new contract the team has the right then too depending. How much timing this is the he could get a huge fine so I don't think that he's GonNa miss much of training camp? If if any yeah because he's still two years here's away <hes> he's in the fourth year fifth year option and then that's when he would you know really have to have a new contract. I I feel like this is one of those flexes where Hey I'm GonNa. I'm going to miss some so that you know I want a new contract. That'll be back. I'll be fine. I'm not really worried about Zeke situation when it comes to missing games no not for this year but this can be one of those kind of inflection or the spark of a problem happens now. I remember this in Arizona with Anquan Boldin tendons contract situation even if this year they don't give them a contract he comes back and plays. It's only gonNA be worse for the cowboys next offseason because he'll be in the same situation. Gordon is in going into that fifth year just something to keep your eyes on. Darius guy suffered a hamstring ring injury while rehabbing now when this news broke originally it seemed like a fresh injury. The news came out after that that guy's injury happened a few weeks ago. You know guys downplayed. The injury said there's no reason reason for concern. He's a liar. There's always reason for concern when you have Rian injury during the recovery from a major surgery in which you had a setback and a follow up surgery they this is not dairies GEIS's this is ear and that's what the hamstring injury guys come back from the A._C._l.. Tear they are very susceptible to getting that hamstring injury in these this is no good man. This is what we were talking about guys and his value value just a couple of shows ago where it's he's kind of trending down the middle of the rounds. Maybe all take a shot on it but if we're if we are talking about Geis's recovering from hamstring issues in training camp then just no thanks I will take my shot. I'll grab Adrian Peterson late so it doesn't affect your perception Jason on Peterson as a late round it it makes me feel more confident in taking Peterson as late round guide that will start the year with a good workload. I don't think look they call him dairy as glass. Oh they do well. I I've seen that you apparently due on twitter look. He is having some health problems. I wouldn't come in and just be like okay. He's the lead dog now. He's going to run on the show like I don't. I don't think that's wise so I I do like Adrian Peterson as a late round flyer to start your season off strong the N._F._l.. Suspended officially Chris Herndon jets tight in for the first four games of the season up due to his substance abuse. Policy Violation pled guilty back in twenty eighteen to a d._U._i.. He is appealing <hes>. That's the word on the street so appealing is appealing because usually there's a two game suspension because because there was another person at risk they made it force of it is possible that this gets reduced but I mean either either way entrance irrelevant. You cannot draft Chris Herndon 'cause you're not drafting a maybe takes a step up tight end. WHO's not playing for? Sir Ronald Jones reported. He is up to two hundred twenty one pounds after playing it to eight when we were talking about Ronald Jones in the draft season last <hes> last year the big problem was wait. You just don't have efficient effective workload guys at two hundred to a five the Reggie Bush category of of of size. He's at two twenty-one says he put on a lot of pounds of muscle sounds. It sounds like something you would say <hes> twenty-eight thousand second round pick as a great opportunity this year Peyton Barber may be the guy but he's not a special running back so you have an opportunity. This whole news segment is just be shaking. Shake my head of the there's all it's all bad news right now. We need so positively but you're you're tasting Ronald Jones putting thirteen pounds. Yes run you. Call them underweight all offseason as bad news I did not. I wasn't going after his weight. When I was attacking him? I was going after he can't do certain things now. Maybe you thinking okay he adds weight and hey capacity protect better but passed protecting is not just size I mean you. We've seen jock whiz Rogers who is not a large guy. He's been an excellent past protector. It's a it's a technique in a mentality that Ronald Jones just doesn't have I hate when running back to put on weight. They'd it doesn't pay off in the the way that I look at it and in in all my research he's running backs adding weight. You think it's sounds awesome but Ronald Jones calling card was speed. It was agility and now he's thirteen pounds heavier. That's a lot of extra weight and we had some friends who you're at the sports. Con Event this past weekend saying yes. He's put on weight. He doesn't look like he's in putting adding football wait. He looks doesn't look like he's football. Shea is looking a little couch potato so I cannot neither confirm also put on thirteen pounds of muscle reasonably. I think couch potato we wait is the worst descript or you could ever have for way like that is just humiliating levels. Wait like that's a new category but no this is this is not good. Put on some roly-poly all right. I do WANNA bring this up. Because you know the listeners they probably Wanna hear sway in a little bit about a rumored eighteen game schedule. Do you WanNa talk about for a second. Do we have time for that. I JUST WANNA call it stupid. That's yeah I mean the eighteen games schedule. I'm fine with that but the proposal is that there's a sixteen game cap on how many games a player complained the regular season according to the N._F._L.'s proposal that is the N._F._L.'s preposterous proposal that makes no sense that means that means twelve percent of the games out there. You're going to have a backup quarterback playing that that that changes competition competition that changes ticket buying phantom everything I mean look. You'RE GONNA if you're definitely going to have a lot more to track and do keep your eyes on when it comes to match ups. UPS and I don't think he's going to start sitting. I can't imagine it happens either so that's it for today's news notes with fantasy football gearing up. Now's the time to ask your committee. If you're using the correct the right the most flexible platform should use sleeper check out the sleeper APP download it today all right. We've got a lot to talk about. Let's get started. Let's get divisional all right. We are traveling to the A._F._C. West today. On the show. We're going to break down everything that has gone on with the chiefs. chargers Broncos and raiders talk about our expectations for these teams. Hopefully illuminate hopefully bring to mind some things that will help your fantasy drafts talk about expectations. We're GONNA start with the twelve and four chiefs who just barely won the division over the chargers last year both teams at twelve four <hes> the big story around the chiefs this offseason. There's been several for fantasy purpose. Yes <hes> they've been Damian Williams. Will he be Doug I will he is capable of being a productive N._F._l.. And fantasy running back obviously all the you know the legal situation with Taibbi Kale Will Patrick Mahomes have his favourite weapon on the field to continue what he did last year I mean Patrick Mahomes was <hes> unconscious all year long. I mean four touchdowns four touchdowns four touchdown six touchdowns. He singlehandedly one leagues so will the cold blooded. Sammy Watkins be able to stay healthy this season and step up for fantasy. Perhaps in the absence of tyreek hill a lot of questions. I agree you re tweeted a little bit more of the wisdom of the Watkins I had not ah been following. Sammy Watkins twitter account and that was a mistake. I immediately started following. If you want Jackie Andy Level Inspiration Follow Sammy Watkins twitter account is fantastic. <hes> let me let me ask you this question at the top and this was an offense was obviously incredible. Last year ranked third in passing yards per game I and points per game at thirty five points per game. You know you have the best tight tied into football. We traveled Kelsey. He had arguably the wide receiver and Football Terry Kill last year this year they go out and they spent a second round draft. Pick on Mykola Hardman they spend a six round traffic on Darwin Thompson running running back and they bring in Carlos Hide because Kareem Hunt Has Gone Spencer where Gone Chris Conley Gun so let me start at the top though expectations for Patrick Mahomes. How much do they take hit like regardless of whether you would take Patrick Mahomes hind fancy dress which we are not spending up on the homes for the likelihood that he doesn't throw fifty touchdown passes very high even with a full kind of allotment of weapons like that kind of season doesn't just happen over and over and over again at least hasn't historically? Could I mean it's a brand new season. It could happen but it's lots how much does not have any tyreek hill for four six games effect where you think that production ends up for Patrick Mahomes or do you think he'd just kind of pivots figures does it out and it's the markets Robinson hardman those other players that that take up the the mantle I think he can figure it out but it's it's still going to be a negative hit to him and just to put some historical connotation in in their Andy three times in the history of the N._F._l.. Only three times as a quarterback thrown fifty or more touchdowns now that was a season where Patrick mahomes would be worth the early pick because he's providing providing you such an edge at the quarterback position. He's outscoring everybody so yes. He's worth in early round but he's going to regress and if you say well no he's GonNa Throw Forty only thirteen times times in the history of the N._F._l.. Has quarterback thrown forty or more touchdowns so that is also improbable. I mean maybe mahomes is different. Maybe he's that different and we're already witnessing a hall of fame career but call me insane but I'm GonNa look at the analytics and the probability of him throwing forty or more touchdowns. It's just not high when when especially when you over succeed the way that he did and losing tyreek maybe me coal the second round pick me co harmony can fill in for he's still a rookie so I'm not expecting that to be incredible productions. I'm I'm out on Mahomes at his current draft cost but we settle that he still has the number one quarterback for me so he's somehow falling because you play in a League where everyone's I'm not touching a quarterback Tila tenth round in that fifth or sixth round shirt then I'll take a look it's fun actually have two of his first three games are really really talk Jacksonville and Baltimore and assume that those first few games are where he's not going to have tyreek Hill so the people that are grabbing actually zero touchdowns against Jacksonville in in his game in Jacksonville right so grabbing the homes early at the sacrifice of your running running back or your wide receiver pick and then getting off to perhaps a slower mahomes star even if he finishes the number one. You're going to be hurting your fantasy roster yeah I. I still think the odds are that I mean we have ranked outweigh. That'll finish number one at the position he still in engine by which all all of the pieces around him <hes> exist with great fantasy joy you know whether it is whether it's looking at Kelsey and what he he is for the offense or looking at Damien Williams who all signs pointing to a heavy workload for Damian me in Williams. There hasn't been any indication that you know if he doesn't do it on the field. Maybe they'll be changes but he should ever have every opportunity and it's not like a running back getting an opportunity on a middling offense it. It means something different when you're in Kansas City. If you get the opportunity in Kansas City in means that you're a top ten running back I went back and I watched Damian Williams and looked at some of him in Kansas City and the reality is the same as what I thought then I I don't think he did anything special very often but the way that they just get the Guy Open in space he is a decent pass catching back who is fast and those two qualities when you get them in space and have a really good designed signed by Andy Reid. I think Damien Williams is going to succeed in this offense if he's been given the green light to be the guy I think you want the guy I mean you. You want the number one running back on the best offense Kansas City running backs head twelve receiving in touchdowns last year the number welcome that is as many as eleven n._F._l.. Teams Combine. That's part of why mahomes touchdown total was so high is that even the the rushing production or you know the running back part of that came through a ton of receiving N- touchdowns if there was a average opposition wise a ton of chiefs are being drafted Kelsey at two or three Damien Williams tool eight mahomes at three Oh eight tyreek right now at four zero six that'll change depending on the suspension pension. Sammy Watkins at six three hide at nine on one hard minute no-one so is there a favourite value pick for you on the chiefs and maybe darkhorse pick in terms of fantasy production. If if if you're still getting Damian Williams for two Oh wait I'm. I'm GonNa Smash that in immediately but we we just had a bat against Jason. I don't I don't see him staying there. As the the height machine builds and builds and builds he'll be at worst the very beginning of of the second round and I've said this before but you know as Sammy Watkins stays and now drops in the sixth round. I think he is a good option. Clearly I- mahomes can support a secondary wide receiver we saw and how did you catch with those pads on your fingertips. He'd he gets the job done like is it. The clause extra cloud me Watkins the Lizard Man I think it might have been more better for you not to read read the tweets then you might just examined you know now starting to distort things I've been willing to not like Sammy Watkins totally unrelated to his Lizard <hes> Zaandam like it's just based Lizard them scary scary which you guys even draft Carlos Hide. I guess I'm surprised to see him in ninth round. What are you thinking about that? I I'd love to talk about hide for a second because I think that he's a player that could go either direction due to camp in preseason he should get a lot of time to run in preseason and if he flashes and looks good I think he's going to be picked up regularly in leagues. You know what I draft him right now. I don't know probably not the signing of garlic side is so bizarre so fast because the yeah I mean they we gotta get some veterans in here but guys that succeed eighty or Jason just mentioned that running back steadfast have great hands and win there in open space. They make things happen. Carlos hide does not shake any of those boxes. He's he is literally one of the most e inefficient pass catching running back since he has entered the league's. The signing is so strange to me it in the ninth round. I guess if you want to if you just want to have that backup plan in case Damian Williams as the guy but to me if Damien Williams is not the Guy Carlos I will get a chance and then Carlos I will not be the guy like they'll go any chance that relaxed Damian or or maybe Darwin Thompson there any chance that Damian is a majority <hes> work share back but then you have a goal line situation yeah even like right now. I would doubt it in the reason I say I doubt it is because of the way they use a running backs on the goal line in the passing game. You brought up the receiving touchdowns from the running back position. They liked to use them in that way and that's not where Carlos Height Excel so I I would be a little bit surprised yeah. The Damian Williams uh-huh discussion in general has been difficult one because you don't have this you just have a strange career ark for him and he's in such a great situation win. The last time that a twenty seven year old running back has broken into fantasy stardom gum. It never like as ever happened every once in a while. I'm sure it's happened yeah and not it's not a regular thing and why would not surprise me if Carlos I if he'd maybe he has broadened on the goal and even Kareem Hunt wants rookie season <hes> it was really obnoxious to see how much shark Hendrick Westwood get in there. That's Atlanta opportune but that didn't stop Kareem Hunt from being a top ten guy so I'm not scared of that. Just saying there will be times that Carlos. It's hard will will <hes> will annoy you. If you have Damien Williams all right <hes> we do want to take a quick PAS remind you about the ultimate draft kit at draft kit dot com. I mean every single go week. We are adding to it <hes> Jason just this morning Mark Andrews tossed into those consistency charts player updates who got cheat sheets player videos we keep improving it and the APP is is really going to get better and better. We're GONNA add some tools that help you utilize the APP during your draft to keep track of players. Some of the things you've been requesting were listening. We're going to get it out there and this is something that can help set the foundation for your twenty nineteen season in a really strong fashion. Yeah what's what's great about. The draft kid is it's a it's a research tool. It's not just a point at that player. You should draft. There's there's tons and tons of information in here that you can actually form your own opinion because we we still want you to have your own opinion and then if if you want a little bit more help the tiered rankings breakdown that's how we always handle all of all of our drafts so check it out. Ultimate draft kit dot com are let's talk about the chargers at twelve and four the chargers chargers last year I mean this is a great team. A great offense led by a veteran <hes> quarterback Philip rivers up and coming players at the wide receiver position Cunanan has been consistent. He's been a a target monster. Mike Williams exploded last year for double digit touchdowns. You have kind of the contract. The contract standoff situation with Melvin Gordon but Melvin Gordon has been an absolute beast. He's going with the six pick right now. In fantasy drafts Keenan Allen's going in the third round his Keenan Allen of value in the third round. <hes> you know I mean I I think that's where he belongs. I wouldn't call him a value because he's not one of these guys they go out that goes out and just completely dominates for a season in fantasy. The last couple years been really weird where he's gotten off to a slower star had a better stretch and really comes down to the touchdowns for him. He's pretty consistent with the volume but the touchdown seem to come in spurts where you know. I think he's GonNa Return that value. I don't think he's a bad pick there at all but I don't. I'm not sitting there seeing his A._D._p.. Like man that's crazy. He should be back in the first early second. I bring it up only because last year he was too oh six so the expectations on him have obviously decreased a little bit. I think it was people were disappointed with Keenan last year because and yes it while he he ended up pretty similar to his previous year when he was in the second round last year. People were looking at what he did in the second half. Do you remember where he was. Yes basically the number one wide receiver if people thought that would continue last year from the get-go and he I would just dominate he didn't do that so I think people are disappointed now. He's about where he should be. I would say the end of the season I think also skewed the way that people think of them. You had the game against the chargers in Kansas City where he got hurt hurt in essentially immediately posted a zero so that crushed you and then only basically yeah nothing for the last three games yeah it but before that I mean he was pacing over nine targets game just under seven receptions eighty three yards in half a touchdown a game I mean he was he was actually very very good. So a third round I think is is fair because he can still get a little bit hot and cold in two thousand seventeen. He was the number three overall fantasy wide receiver. What's? What I don't mean that incorrect? I don't remember that maybe that was like over the second half now. That's that's right and that's that's why that second round exactly yeah. That's why the second round was there last year finished at twelve because he won't be believe yes a nice ceiling to have built into a player I that's why I wonder wonder if he could be yeah he could be could be. I've painted a lot of the chargers offense on predictability but the fact that like okay Tiro Williams leaving that benefits Mike Williams not really thinking you know does that just create more dependency on Keenan Allen for Philip Rivers. <hes> this was a an offensive line that ranked number thirteen in football last year says an offense that was tenth in passing yards per game <hes> in terms of you know you lost tyrel Williams. He's Gone He. He was a deep threat Antonio Gates he was the corpse of gates was running around a little bit lousier. He's gone and so the Hunter Henry Story. Oh Yeah Hunter Henry is the guy that I think you know it helps maintain. This offense helps keep this offense in the upper echelon and keeps them competitive with the chiefs in this division Keenan are I'm sorry Hunter Henry Expectations for you guys. I've got Hunter Henry as has one of the top half titans this year and fantasy just behind Vance McDonald and O._J.. Howard those guys I think hunter Henry seven hundred receiving yards? What do you think over under over under? I Have Hunter Henry Down for seven hundred eighteen so ooh I will take the over clear but that's that's interesting so you you have the Vance dance slightly above I believe in advance McDonnell you look at the targets vacated for both teams and while it's good like you're you're missing against Tonio Gates for Missing Tyrone Williams. There's it's just not comparing the amount of vacant at targets for the steelers so you're probably passing on Hunter Henry then so because you can get based on those or round or too late Vance yeah I mean I've said this before when it comes to the the Middle Tier Guys Pretty Much Evan Ingram O._J.. Howard I'm willing to look at them and after that I'm actually just waiting waiting forever all right? <hes> you guys know my love for Mike Williams I have ranked at wide wide receiver seventeen on the season <hes> he is one of only five players targeted more than eight times inside the ten zone in twenty eighteen. <hes> the others were Michael. Thomas j <hes> James White Mike Mike Williams <music> obviously Corey Davis and Doug Baldwin Corey Davis together man they keep trying yeah so other storylines here what is Philip rivers for fantasy purposes is e- consistent assistant middling option exactly what he is. He is a a a nice 4. Where or maybe maybe you have enough to live off of? Maybe you don't I mean he is but he's <hes> <hes> yeah eighth in twenty seventeen last year he was the eleventh ranked quarterback. I mean he's generally been in that top. Twelve category looks like eight of ten years but it's always near the back of it. Basically he can beat you on a certain week but he doesn't generally end up with big numbers over the course of the year. Yeah I mean if you look at his season as a whole he ends up as a quarterback one but usually he spins the majority of his weeks outside side of the top twelve but but not very far beyond that I mean last year you had <hes> looks like six games where he was a top ten quarterback which is <hes>. That's that's okay that's good but that means that there's ten games where he wasn't and he never finishes extremely low right. He's he's Never GonNa be the thirtieth quarterback in the week because he's a you know. He's a vet. I mean look weaken week. Out Ranked Fifteenth ranked thirteenth ranked fourteenth ranked eighteenth just looking in his numbers for weeks last year and it's like that's not going to help you win in a fantasy league in my opinion I would rather stream the position and get a guy. I'll I'll stream Philip rivers a look at the matchups where he's got a great matchup and throw him in there. He's his his numbers are wild man when when you actually look at what he was doing last year until the those final three weeks I know we're talking about. He's outside the top ten but I mean it took until week thirteen eighteen or game thirteen that he was throw thirty three fewer than two touchdowns I mean he was culinary consists. It was perfectly consistent new and just a nice floor but are you wearing happy with that. If General Fantasy Quayle I'm not happy with that. Are you happy with someone that consistently doesn't put up a goose egg but never gives you at the quarterback position boom the a week winning performance. No not not really wanting to draft that I maybe I ended up flexing into that week to week but I wanNA. I WANNA circle back to Belvin Gordon for a second. 'cause this team is predicated on. They want to be a great defense there. In the top ten you know defensive rushing yards per game <hes> defense a passing yards per game Melvin Gordon's a part of being what kind of a team you get to grind it out with Melvin Gordon if Gordon Mrs Time. How are you shifting? You're like what are you doing is a fantasy owner with us in color and Justin Jackson. What is your kind of prescription for people with like I'm not that worried about Gordon but at the same time you still have to think about a plan for this offense? In how much does it hurt without Gordon. I think Justin Jackson stands to gain the most because because often adler kind of has a role carved out his will grow certainly without Melvin Gordon but it's not like awesome heckler. We'll just become the Workhorse Melvin Gordon role. That's not what he's there for and last year when Justin Jackson had had that opportunity. He showed that he could do it so what would actually happen. Melvin Gordon is traded or Mrs Games is you're going to have Justin Jackson up I as the one in the one two punch and it will pretty much be a committee backfield but both will be. I think think startle assets because it's quality officer it it. It's a tough call 'cause when Gordon went down last year the Equa was the guy who got the first shot where he and that I want. He touched the ball eighteen times there was there's a real stinker because he touches you produced about forty three yards but then once again he was fifteen carries to reception so I I still have to lean that Ecuador would be would give <hes> would be given the first shot but it we'll be full time share which they're very big fans out there in the world. I'll tell you that they believe he could be a lot more than the opportunities been given so far. Let's talk about the Denver Broncos. Are we done all right. There's plenty to talk no look. I think that there are there are a number of topics. I want to talk about Emmanuel Sanders the WanNa talk about Lindsay and Freeman last year the Broncos were six and ten last last year the offense had trouble and there were problems. Lindsey was the bright spot for fantasy owners because he was a superstar Emmanuel Sanders was a very bright spot before the injury well yep but I mean case keenum is gone Joe FLACCO. Hello hello welcome welcome in with his beard. Have you seen him with the beard. I Yeah Oh man it's that mile higher need protect your your your face neck in your face. There's a lot of neck beard going on. He almost yeah Oh yeah he C. J.. I I haven't seen it but I I know that he is a hair wildebeest. Yeah <hes> drew lock was drafted in the third round. It's worth just bring second third. was I believe so I believe is the third round pick either way. Hey I'm bringing them out because if things went south for the broncos is tough division the chargers and chiefs are and you know the raiders have improved. I don't know how committed you stated Joe. FLACCO of the team is around. That's on me yeah. You can blame brooks. Pack your things you fire all of all the things you've ever done. Good bad getting drew locks. Round Ivanoff is just getting wrong. It's disparaging Mr Lock himself unbelievable. You never be forgiven. Well there. You Go Brooks's been fired Berlin shift over one chair. Please having said that we have a job opening. Please send your resumes to Brooks. I'm not even all right. That's right. We need somebody to hire <hes> but I don't you know this is a different team. I think that the the Broncos the dolphins there are a handful of teams where you look look at them and you just because we don't have something jumping out at us as fantasy owners as the you know a high end option. Sometimes we can devalue the players on these teams and they they're maybe not even the giants right owed. Els Girls Gone. Eli Manning are not likely I manning but there are there's value to be had on these teams and I think that that is going to come out here in Denver as well. If there's one thing that Joe flacco tends to do is they going to let him throw the ball down the Field Colin Sutton is a big man Emmanuel Sanders. I I have rare wherever I've got him ahead of Day Sean Hamilton in fantasy production on the season because I'm trusting what my eyes are seeing about his recovery. I've watched interviews with him talk about his recovery. He's he's gone about as fast as you can. Go with an Achilles recovery and this is not straight line videos. You're watching he's running routes his moving laterally and he's a very very very good player. Now I think a player that is coming back into the fold at he's just he's the best wide receiver they have like in appear skills through position. He's better than those other players. I don't have them ahead of Sutton because I think sutton offers more touchdown upside than Emmanuel Sanders does us but kind of digging through the mock here. Are you going to find somebody you're happy with at all with Joe flacco thrown him the ball or or is this a bunch of wasted breath because we shouldn't even be talking about wide receivers Denver. <hes> certainly someone could emerge. I mean I remember the days were Joe. FLACCO threw a deep as well. Those those were neat. Steve Smith were also yes but it's been a long time and the question is was that because of his weapons or is that because now he is much more of a Dinka dunk passer giambra Eileen that direction direction Eileen that you know which means Dejean or manual. I'm not as bullish as you Andy on you know I've seen the same videos but you're you see those with everyone. You know you see them running against air it not in pads looking looking sharp looking great and I think that there's a another world to get to when it comes to being on the field in contact all of that and <hes> so I I lean day sean for the short stuff but if you WANNA throw your your pick account for who has the best chance to to really emerge as a relevant a very very good fantasy option I think it's gotta be Portland Sutton because if someone comes through you want a red zone option and he's the big bodied guy he looked great and spurts he disappeared in spurts but a lot of what's being said around Denver is that it looks like he's ready to step up into that number. One role he himself assumes he is going to be the number one option and if that's the case as if he's stepping up to be the new damaris Thomas hopefully someday they get the new peyton manning yeah I mean I have my problem with Sutton is that I wanted him to do that. I mean all these same refrains. Were there for the second half of the season. It was time for Sutton to step up and be the next Mary's Thomas Still Rookie season sure but it was disappointing yes it was there anybody happy with I mean he was no people were swarming to pick up cortlandt Sutton for his opportunity and that was without without Emmanuel Sanders. It's all of this is going to be an offense predicated on running the ball and having a rejuvenated defense. I don't I want him to succeed. I want him to be great. I don't know if the volumes GONNA be there for him. Yeah that's fair. Do you have any interest at all. Noah fan you have first round draft pedigree for tight end is still his rookie tied in I don't but I mean what we have seen before is Joe flacco hyper target his his tight ends and now he has a very athletically radically gifted one. I don't doubt that he will have four games. This year. Where you like man he should be picked up on the next week's waiver wire? I'm just worrying about the weeks in between them. Okay I stand there as well I. I don't think this is a great offense offense as a whole. I'm not super waiting to get my piece of it and when I get my piece it's not going to be for the rookie Titan. I think that the the Denver broncos will be surprisingly better this year. Well I mean Look Vegas Vegas with you. When it comes to you know you brought them up in the same breath breath as the dolphins right who are like three hundred one because we're not sure what's going on but they put him kind of in the category of Tennessee and Carolina that that level of odds to win? I think they could be nine seventeen this this year going up from Santon so but Philip Lindsey Roy Agreement. That's where I was. Are you afraid to click the draft button. Are you afraid to take Philip Lindsey at his price point right now. We've talked so much about him. He said literally I think it was yesterday he will be one hundred percent yeah. He said he's going to be one hundred percent for the start at camp at the wrist. He's he has said he feels one hundred percent but it's also up to the trainers and not a leg injury though I mean we're right similar things with David Johnson coming back right obviously a a significant injury. Would you rather draft Royce Freeman at his current average drought position of eight. Oh four or Philip Lindsey at what is now being shown at four zero eight. He's dropped a lot. If I have to take one of them all still take Lindsey yeah. I know that Lindsay is falling on on. What is it around? I would take yeah I would I would too. That's why it's been freeman all offseason but when you talk about four zero eight. I think I'm in now. I think I'm back in yeah. He started to move that back up in the third like high third and can hi movies A._D._p.. What show was it that we just talked about it was but which one was it like to? I'm trying to figure out what's killing his A._D._p.. That was Saturday. Show I believe was it. I think so okay. Maybe it's not me. Stanford live show up so sorry right any other storylines from Denver. We moved on moving on all right. It's hard knocks time the raiders foreign twelve wrapping up the A._F._C. West. They'll start at home against Denver. In Kansas City this year Jon Gruden Company and then the colts that is that's not that is not a good luck in verse four. We imber Kansas City at Minnesota at Indianapolis analyst on paper a rejuvenated revamped transformed team at the high level and you guys we can get into all the players at the highest level. What happened to this team to me? The biggest biggest problem that this team has was an and what may dare cargo from M._v._p.. Candidate to <hes> short range <hes> you know B._B.. Gun was the offensive line. This was a top five unit that dropped dropped way down assembly fell off a cliff and they couldn't keep Derek Carr on his feet car. Got Skittish. He started preferring the shorter intermediate routes to taking shots downfield because historically he's a good deep passer but when you barely do it and you're skittish and afraid and not making clutch throws. That's what broke this team down. I don't know how you do better than getting a Guy Antonio Brown tyrel Williams and Josh Jacobs Bribe to fix that problem. I mean they marchand gone. You get the more versatile Jacobs in the Backfield Jordy Nelson gone you get the younger tyrel Williams as a deep threat to me. It's all about the offensive line and the offensive line provide enough time time for car to be an effective passer to bring up the fancy value of everyone around. What are you guys think <hes> look? I think Antonio Brown being there's going to help the offensive line in a sense the the fact that car will have someone to go to car is a super late round guide that you know there's those guys like do I look there are there are those guys are finding wrong about where it's like. You know look if he's great. This is one where I'm not. I don't think car has a great year but I'm not I am not super confident in that at all it he's got the weapons both at running back and it wide receiver to put up enough. You know enough fantasy for just got to play Kansas City a couple of times other great offices. I think Derek Carr could be a surprise late. Round guy that ends up as a successful fancy option this year they also added Ryan grant to the offense was like a free agent pickup lasts off season by for Raigmore wink wink to the colts and then Marshall Eightman flash last year. J Nelson was in addition. They still J. them Rashard in the backfield. I think the offense is probably underrated. Mike I really do okay. I like you said everything looks. Great on paper looks great on paper but I don't I just I don't believe in Derek Carr as as a quarterback. I don't think he's that good okay. So what is that translate in carry that believe you into Antonio Brown not not not to car cars not being drafted Grafton a position where you have to justify his failing or succeeding Brown is I mean Braun is being punished and a lot of rankings because of the transition from Big Ben to the raiders even though he is Doug Guy Runaways dub receiver in football from his skill standpoint yeah and I won't. I won't argue with those points but we've we've seen great wide receivers. Many many times have bad quarterback play behind them and it's car is not the worse by. I don't think he can help out Antonio Brown anywhere close to the level that you're hoping for now his draft price what's interesting about him. So I'm looking at fantasy football calculator right now I mean he sandwiched literally literally right between Juju and Mike Evans and would would you rather have Antonio Brown from with Derek Carr as a quarterback or do you want Mike Evans Jameis Winston so I've gone back and forth on these two guys specifically and and then right after that is t. y.. Hilton right and I do land on the Antonio Brown side. I think that while Antonio Brown is not going to be the number one wide receiver anymore. I've still got him within astronomical target volume. What won't be there? The way it was in Pittsburgh is the touchdown numbers I mean Antonio Brown has always been a double digit touchdown guy last year. What do you have fifteen touchdowns? I mean that's not going to happen so I think the ceiling might be off a little bit but I I mean the difference between in car and Jameis Winston in real life is not that much you you forget car two years ago. He was a top ten fantasy quarterback which is crazy to think about when he had the weapons there so I think Antonio Brown I'm certainly not taking him over Juju but I would take over. Mike Evans Okay Josh Jacobs. How many passes does he catch this year? What's his fantasy ceiling? How are you looking at Jacob's? Isaiah Crowell went out got hurt. They picked him up instead. They have to replace him with cramps Doug. Martin is back again <hes> yes. This is Josh Jacobs Backfield yeah he should have every opportunity to contribute in both facets which means that you know this is not even if you don't believe in the offense even if you don't believe in the defense the game script if you think is negative if you're pass catching running back like Jacobs's you should be pretty consistent pretty relevant. I mean look at Lindsey would be very Lindsay's a very interesting comp here because the Broncos were six ten last last year and Lindsay's not somebody that you would look at as he prototypical like you know. He's not going to carry two hundred fifty times. We've never seen Jacobs take a workload Alabama so but the let's go six and ten. Maybe they're not a good team Philip lizzy still at a great year right I right now. I Have Josh Jacob Sketching about forty passes which is is not number but it's you would be perfectly acceptable. The problem with four Jacobs is just the you're buying into the idea that he was the first round running back has a pass catching skill sick because they have Jalen Rashard he still on the team and last year when things when the game script flipped upside down it was Jaylen Rashard just getting absolutely peppered with target so do they do they take that jump and they say okay where it's GonNa play Josh Jacobs on all three downs or does he just get worked into some passing plays plays on first and second down and then regard is is a bigger thorn than your expect. I think the fact that they used Jalen Rashard so much last year and then turned around and said yeah we're going to spend a first round or on a running back and we're going to get is as corral says what they want and what they want is not <hes> Jalen restart well yeah they. They don't want him to be the the grinder but last year eighty-one targets sixty eight receptions for Jalen Rashard with those those are real receptions for running back right for sure but that that also says dare cars looking to that position offense can utilize it but I don't think it's going to be restarted. I think it's going to be Josh Jacobs he was he worried me before the draft because I thought he was going to be drafted as committee guy but the combination of him being given a first round draft capital and then having Isaiah Crowell go out out to a season ending injury says he's got. He's got the shot of being a truth three down back. They'll mix and Rashard. They'll mix in cramps but he's going to he's going to take the lead of this offense from the Backfield for sure. The first round draft capital nearly assures heavy involvement but you're it should they couldn't really throw the ball and anywhere other than to Rashard last year so it'll be interesting to see that as your A._F._C. West <hes> I want to get into the mailbag bag a little bit this show if you've been listening to it either shortwhile along while it's all about you your league you the fantasy player. We're trying to get you as much information as possible to make you a better fantasy player year to year but also enjoy your league more are enjoy running league. If you're a commissioner and so we like to get in and answer as many questions we can hear and over at joined the foot <hes> let's jump into the Malay mailbag the right you like this one Jason Keith in Albuquerque New Mexico we are getting rid of kickers and replacing them with an extra flex position -gratulations KIEF. What are you guys think the ideal bench sides should be in in order to keep some talent on the waiver wire into deal with bye week so if you have a league where you have an extra flex spot? I guess he's wondering how big should the bench be to <hes> properly sure populate the waiver wire so he says he currently has a six bench and they do have the I.. R. Spot as well so I would just keep it at six yeah. I'm one hundred percent find going to five bench an I.. R. I think five bench in an I._R._A.. Is Great six is also fine I would I would really it's a matter of your league right because I think that the more into it your league is the if you've got eleven other owners that really take the serious. It's one of those home leagues it. You know has been going for six seven eight years. Everyone's competitive additive benches great but if it's where like you've got a handful of people that aren't as into it then you know those those those more shallow waivers <hes> you know it's hard for the casual people all right <hes> questioned from Derek in Orange County California. Do you each have a position your consistently better at projecting <hes>. I E wanting to know whether like Jason's better at running Baxter Mike it wide receiver etcetera I think within ourselves we do not necessarily like I'm better to position than others but I know when it comes to like rookie scouting I am better at scouting running backs than quarterbacks for example. I I trust Andy Scouting on quarterbacks better than my scouting on quarterbacks and I trust my scouting on running backs better than everyone's. There's a ton of factors like in season last year. I just happened to be more accurate when it came to running backs and wideouts than I did quarterbacks and tight ends so that's a little different than draft scouting obviously <hes> but from week to week. It seemed to favor those positions <hes>. Do you remember what you you were most accurate on my off the top of my head. I think looks like you were the quarterback whisper. Yes and running back pretty well too. I know over on your tax. Usually where I feel strong over the years though it it does tend to change. I don't think it's a universal truth to answer the question all right. This question comes in from now. Watch out hang on comes from the Texas Hitman in Houston low so you leather face. Oh you know thank you for listening to the show well the Texas hitman leather. You guys don't yeah so yeah. It's scary I it's a massacre. I just didn't know if you'd permit more than one Mike. There's there's plenty of room there was there was many more before me and there'll be many more after video games yeah all sorts of Hitman out there. Would you really really feel comfortable with Nixon. As you're running back. One is the question and a half point perception league my rankings and my brain say yes I would yes. I'm okay with it. I'm not like thrilled. I would much rather take James Connor but I would take do you owe you would much rather take James Connor than yes Joe Mixon yes I am. That's official commentary. No that's you guys can keep down James Connor. All you want your wrong. I don't have any he problem against James Connor but I would not say definitely rather have James Connor than Joe Mixon. I would say that Oh waterbed not that that was that was just formalizing <music> a an open secret here s you know that I in in public <hes> forums we have disagreed on James Connor. <hes> you're going to be very sad. Okay James Garner success you. It would be best for you to do your victory lap now while nothing has happened as opposed to later win. We'll say we do have some fantasy source friends who have may or may not have talked to Mike Tomlin Okay and Mike Tomlin said that you know he can see the future and knows James Productions when other players were named on that team he said no James Connor okay. We'll see what happens <hes>. This is a informative podcast. Yes what other players were being named running rex. Can you name them. This is Jalen Samuel. Yes okay so. I don't think that there's been contentions made on this show by me that James Connors not they're starting running back. That's not the that's not the pretense by which I argue argue against James Connor. If you listen to live show argue I argued against James Connor on the basis that he fell off a cliff halfway through the year and he's more of a rb to than an rb one. That's my only contention not that he sucks. If you remember what I said as I said hey he's he's more in the RB twelve to fifteen range. He's not the RB six. You got at the beginning of the year so I don't have any doubt he is the starter I do have concerns about the offense absent Antonio Brown <hes> I assume you are not anti Joe Mix in your just pro James Connor on yes all right one last question Henry in Cincinnati Ohio too quick questions up. You know I say one last question in Henry Henry a second you only get one says. It's quick all right how you convince your league to use sleeper instead of Gal who and do you think is being drafted at his at his ceiling. Yes he's being drafted and his ceiling to me and sleepers the it's an easy to use APP. They're very customizable and they're always listening trying to make the platform better veteran better. It's certainly if if it happens to be dynasty or keeper League something like that the platform runs in the off season. You can trade picks and things like that that you can't do on some of these other platforms <music> aren't as we wrap it up pristine deal of the day De'andre Hopkins Sign Taxes Jersey yesterday went for fifty four fifty five dot fifty four yes so so close to the perfect amount of money whoever won that should be disappointed that they didn't just pony up once. It's a huge made awesome yeah. That's a tip. You should've tipped them. Shame on you yeah Pristine Action Dot Com use the registration code ballers. That's when you sign up and <hes> that'll do it for today's episode of The show unless you two gentlemen have anything else you Wanna add I would just add if you are a winner and you're looking to get some fantasy football hardware in your life. Police checkout fantasy champs dot com the absolute best in the business us at Bronco ballers. You're going to save money all right that is it follow us on twitter at the bar. Thanks for supporting the show. We'll be back very soon goodbye.

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REShow: Michael Kelly. Hour 3 (10-03-18)

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REShow: Michael Kelly. Hour 3 (10-03-18)

"Rich Eisen on demand, your show your schedule, fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. Hour number three, in our neighborhood here in our neighborhood as you just heard Michael Kelly, I love this guy. He's been on our show before he's back again, big time. Braids fan. He's from Georgia. You loves his Atlanta sports interesting time to being Atlanta in Los Angeles with the brave showing up to try and destroy the dodgers season. And these got a new film called all square. He plays a book that has trouble collecting debts. He starts trying to make money off of twelve year olds, youth baseball games that he starts to attend that just part and parcel of this very funny. Comedy with a nice warm heart called all square that he's part of. You know, it's not funny with a nice warm heart is his portrayal of Doug stamper now cards here in studio. Our number three, good times, Andy, Dalton and Ron darling of already been on the show. Our poll question is based on the playoff formatting and and our phone lines, what we've been talking about is what is sporting. That you've attended like cubs fans did last night that left you broken. Broken brokenhearted. The poll results top our number three, Chris read them off with the best playoff format or system right now. NFL leads the way forty one percent college basketball making a little run here twenty six percent and Joe NBA fifteen percent same with MLB college football, three percent, and see LeBron last night and his Laker's uniform. Did you catch any of that last night? Chris Brown couple of highlights. Hairline saw him struggle to get off the ground for dunk. But yeah, it was nice. Oh, God. Just love hate non, the Brown over there. That's what I saw. Okay. You know what? I saw an exciting staple center. People all fired up. I also saw young team. It's gonna have to gel this first out of the box. I also saw Rajon Rondo start. Yeah, wants us. They'll come back. How long how long are they gonna? Will that be able to last us be an excuse for? Why? Darting there's three ways to look at it. Yeah, excuse cover story. Or reality. I think it's an excuse in a cover story. Yeah, then they, they need to face reality or we'll see, because you know, Lonzo gets out there and starts bawling out then why would you change anything? If he's comfortable coming off the bench? And you know what really doesn't matter. I guess who starts its who's finishing first time that there's the crucible of a one possession game three and change to go fourth quarter five minutes to go in the new NBA game. What are we? We're putting ninety nine cents down to watch it. Exactly. You know, watch the end of the game who's out there and I was out, I think my gas is going to be. It's Rondo I wouldn't it be right now just to say that coming in who knows this kid's rocked up. He looks great lawns. Eight. He's been working on the jump shots retooled a little bit. They're going to be. I don't think they're gonna win much. You know, there may be the fifth or sixth best team in the west, but they're going to be. Exciting. Every night there, entertaining their dramatic. There's a lot going on there guy who dominated. At his age last year that LeBron shows up in Los Angeles and I'm prophecy present. He will. I think they might be better than the sixth best team in the west, sir. I know a lot of folks around here are excited to say it, but last night Rondo got the start. Skipping. I on that. Put a pin in that as they say the business say. Older is is just a boy days away two weeks NBA season around the corner. All NBA is going to be hot and steer my right. Chris, you're news update have had it brought to you by the pilot. Now. For the federal live report rock men with the news, the twenty nine hundred Honda pilot with seating for up to eight and available intelligent traction management. You can haul around all your role pros this season, all around town, hurry into your local Honda dealer today. If you're on hold, stay on hold a ticket calls after this news update crisco before it kind of calm NFL news day for once here in between weeks, four and five injuries update and you guys on some Wednesday stuff. Doug Marrone said, as we mentioned earlier, winter four net not playing DJ Hayden up playing this week against Kansas City. Obviously a huge matchup between those teams right now. Sammy Watkins on his hamstring injury also up in the air as it currently Watkins is back at practice. He is practicing today. So that's good news with deformed for for cans. Hamstrings, just we'll see limited or not. I don't know. Yeah. Other guys practicing Joe mixing back. Yeah, he's back. He's back at practice today. Nursing, that knee injury. He is on pace to play against Miami. Geo Bernard dealing with the doing with an injury he was out today. So keep an eye on that. Dan Quinn said he expects devante Freeman to return to the lineup, that's huge for the falcons as they have a massive game against Pittsburgh. This weekend should be a lot of points and fun, and that game a couple of guys not practicing Jarvis Landry. Adrian Peterson, Darren, sproles, Corey Clemente. Randall Cobb, Toronto, Alison, Aaron Rodgers all not practicing today. So just monitor that throughout the week keep. Okay. Talking NBA, rich Mitchell, Bron, James. He had an MVP season last year obviously went to James harden, well, the annual MBA GM survey was conducted, and those results are now public as it was last year. Same thing this year, the warriors overwhelming favorites to win the championship according to the thirty NBA general managers eighty seven percent of the vote from them Houston and the and Boston or the two other teams who got some votes there. Man, the NBA is fortunate. I was thinking about this the other day. It's the only sport where there's no conversation before who do you think's gonna make the finals. The NFL season opens and it is open season on who you're Super Bowl, favorites. Okay. Could be on about. If you're an NFL team, basically three quarters of you have an NFL hope of a Super Bowl appearance and we all in the media are saying, you know, hey, this mine was patriots and Rams there were tons of chargers picks. There was some Texans picks. There were some sightings eagles on and on Agwu. Right. And for major league baseball, it is, you know, you can choose from a smaller group, but it still you never know a dozen teams or so that in the NBA who in the house not gonna, say Celtics versus the warriors. Who's going to say, what if somebody come out and say, I think it's going to be Kawai. Versus the rockets? Yeah, you know what? What what would people say to that might del tufo if you say versus the rockets, what do you think they'd say. It wasn't even paying attention. I don't know what you're doing over there. Saving your reading. You just did. Oh, great. Oh, grants for doing that? Yeah. So we know the wars of one three, the last four titles. And and so, yeah, they're the eighty seven percent favorite to win the championship and then to come out of the east. Ninety percent pick Boston with the only the only other team getting for the raptor lucky that there is so much excitement. On on the on the I don't remember what the love boat decks were. The Lido deck was what's the most important? The prominent Lido then there's the Leo on the Lido deck. Yeah, there's a ton of partying going on the Lido deck and the NBA where everybody's still hopes that their team can win and they love watching the ball out and it's got a big fantasy element. There's probably a lot of elements of of Vegas nature, of course. Yeah, but there's no drama, but there's John and thing is like last year everyone. It doesn't matter how we get there. The warriors the and even the top seed going in like what you want, and they were the Cavs, and the Cavs made it and and everyone assumed it was going to be those teams that made it. And this year it's Boston Golden State. I guess we'll see you talking about 'em NBA MVP, James harden won the last year. Of course, LeBron James was the favorite to win MVP this year. Thirty percent of the GM vote. Kevin Durant, second twenty, seven percent. Now, this one I thought was interesting. The player GM's would want to build their team around and guess who thought one. This poll Tatum Jaanus onto Donald slow, thirty percent. Okay. Waiting vocab or their player picked to start a franchise. Anthony Davis future Los Angeles Laker twenty three percent there at your liquor. Nice, of course. He signed a couple years ago, so to see bronze banishment. So. But what would a LeBron VP's and look like. I would think they would have. They would have to be taught for the last year. He was top for the Cavs were fourth and he's numbers were absurd and nobody paid attention. Nobody because it was all hardened for the sixty. You know the the number one team in the west and they thinking about it'll be west going in. Let's see. You know, name a warrior Durant or curry. I think LeBron BBC's looks a lot like what he did last year and he gets the Lakers in the top four. The west is obviously the better conference top to bottom. That would be your Lakers buys. They'll be Lakers vice because the Cavs he had this supporting cast is much better than what he had in Cleveland. There's no Kevin love status, but the rest of collection together. Yeah, they're younger a little more versatile, little more athletic, and I just think if he comes into a new situation all the spotlights they're gonna be on national TV at tons because of who he is and they are if he can throw up Khanna what he did last year, thirty seven and seven. I think I think like like maverick Carter told us winning matters so he can get the Lakers into the top four. That'll be an MVP full. Full. And the last couple of baseball items cho- alter. We mentioned not going to be back with the Orioles man at historically bad season for them. One hundred fifteen losses the the fifth worst record in the modern era. And then lastly, just saw this major league baseball tweeted out teasing. Tonight's game. Not sure if you guys know this winter, go home. Moneyball verse the evil empire who's moving on to the official major league baseball. Twitter account come on calls you guys the evil empire. Are you serious? So there you go come on. Come on. It's official. Did Larry Lucchino takeover the major league baseball account? So what happened. Versus evil empire. What the hell. Yeah. So come on now. No, no, no. Hold on. Hold on a second. Where where with pride hold on a sec with pride. You know what? That's garbage. I I like the the MLB commercial where they're making fun of the unwritten rules. I had no problem with that. I know problem with that where they're making where they're basically saying that flip this, whatever the voice over is junior gang is hat back which as you remember was the death of baseball because he was wearing his hat back where his batting practice and he and then he's reveal with his hat backwards. Now as a bona fide goat hall of Famer saying, let's play the postseason. Eileen joy that commercial, but this stuff about calling the keys evil empire. Hey, guess what? Basically, whoever wrote this. I enjoy baseball without the Yankees brand international. Go ahead. Evil empire that come on man. No problem with that. People don't like them winning, but you would never never never on this green earth, no matter how many millennials or young kids who hit send without thinking. Any of those people in the NFL office using an official NFL account to call the patriots evil or heaters or anything that would never happen on this green beautiful planet. I'll take it rich where the best, the equivalent though. Right? The NFL count tweeting out the calling. The patriots, yeah. Or the deflators or or any any of that stuff for admitting that they're the most hated right doing that for the Cowboys too. Yeah. I'm wondering if Steinbrenner's calling up, what are we doing here. As opposed to our versus evil empire. That was pretty surprising. Kinda shocked at that. These are not the tweets, you're looking for. I mind messaging. These are not the tweets. You're looking full. Broccoli was discover card believes anniversaries should be a time of celebration, not obliga- shin. That's why they think annual fees are ridiculous. And right now just for giving them a try card members for new card members are going to get a one year anniversary gift. 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Was my first Monday night football game. I watched them on TV for like thirty years and I was excited, took my kids. They were dominating five minutes thirty six seconds left twenty point eight. I'm looking at the scoreboard all the all. The bears fans of left. Look to my kids. I said, it's a lock. We've got, oh Tom, mmediately the wheels came off. I mean this this whole thing is my fault. Tom, I'm gonna give you how. Watch you. Go give you bro, hug, tap, tap in the band. We thank you for the call, Tom preciado it. Then the bears let him off the hook. Of course, the four greatest for best words of The Danny green rent is not out of the mouth of Danny green. We just the bears what we thought they were. What we thought they were. Gosh, we played them in preseason third game in a preseason. We played third game. Everybody played three quarters, the bears or who we thought they were. Let him off the hook. That's why we took the damn field. Now, if you want to crown them, then crown s. But they are. We thought they were. We let him onto hook. We got here cure for best words. Thanks. Go go. Thanks coach, Matt line. Mark, Dalton, one of the best PR man in the business. Thanks coach. I mean the back to back be s.'s. Yeah, right. I think he used it in two different ways. Yeah. Yeah. Tiffany. One was just a declarative who Tae, who takes the third game of the preseason. Like it's Bs Bs. That's two different to do that. That fact that's take something use two different. Anguish. Next level language announced or an adjective. We got to go back to scores retirement. We get our adverbs. All right. Eight, four, four, two, four riches. That's a nice schoolhouse rock reference man. Michael Kelly is on the Calloway coin right now trying to drain some putts. Again, we love him as Doug stamper and house of cards, which is coming up November and he's also Jack Ryan. He's also in a theater near you coming up on October the twelfth in new movie called all square. 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Everybody else knows him as Doug stamper in house of cards. Good to see you again. Michael, Kelly. Pleasure. All right. Let's jump in with both fear because I know you're big, Atlanta sports fan. You are here in Los Angeles, California, the day before the divisional series, the Braves and Los Angeles Dodgers. And you're leaving on a jet plane? I am. I I have. I've been gone for, you know, I'm doing Jack Ryan right now, and I've been gone in South America for two and a half months in not been near my family. I think if I was gonna I'm gonna stay for a couple more days. You might not go over so, and I just miss him so much. I, it's your dad, I doing press for this to impress Raza cards. It's just been a busy which is great for you. So how are you keeping up with the Braves down in South America. I and I'll be man. I, I could actually stream the games from that, so it was great and that. And if I was at work, the phone cell receptors on so great, so I can get text, but you can't actually get the app and a lot of places. So my dad and my brother and I, we constantly every game were Texan back and forth. So you're on this study. Jack Ryan. And so you're looking down in your finding out about the exploits of Ozzy Albee's. Ronald Kuni juniors that are at center this incre. I love this team so much to it's it's been such a fun, you know? Yeah, this is the first time in five years. We've done that division, but it's been so fun following the minor league team in animatedly team, just watching them get to where they are today. So you're locked on what? What's going on triple a. and yeah. Yeah, you know, at least like the. Yeah, I'm pretty much familiar with all the thirty prospects and have been for five years. Very matter of fact, how many people actually do know what their top would, you know, Brockman your Red Sox top thirty prospects, no chance. I mean, I'm not going to see your name thirty. Anderson Colorado, like all these young kids, especially the arms that we have coming up. I was showing Brian, my manager on the flight here for next year we have you could feel two full rotations, and then there were still like three guys. That's all going to be in contention for top five next year. It's exciting time to be a brace and and the the freeze out there. The warning. I got it looks like you. You could be a little speedy runner. And I'm like. If he gave me enough of a jump, if he's like guys almost fifty, he gives you start. I if you looked like give them a good jump 'cause I could take because that's basically all the Braves are known for last year was the freeze pretty much. And now this year they're young team, but nobody's talking about, I mean, last night we saw Rockies cubs. I mean, today, it's all everybody's talking about is the cubs lost two home games and they're done, and the dodgers have Kershaw and they've got Manny Machado, and I could go on and on your about how the brewers are an underdog team, but nobody's talking about your Braves and what a great way to go into the playoffs. Right? Nobody's talking much you, nobody's considering you and and like you and I were talking about before it's house money. We weren't supposed to be here until next year. We were supposed to, I think, seventy three games, right? We won ninety while it's talked to a die hard fan as yourself. Michael Kelly here on the rich Eisen show, and you know, being in Atlanta sports fan as well. We were talking about earlier. Cubs fans all show up at that game. Last night, there dressed ready to celebrate and they see an absolute disaster unfold of what's the worst thing that you have been spectator for that you've seen with your own two eyeballs that you are just like, I can't believe I was here for this and you saw person negative yesterday as a sports fan where got in part in person like that. I don't know about in person that I mean, obviously the Yankees World Series was rough ninety. The wildcard game when the fans through the track the infield fly rule. Remember that. Crazy through all the trash on the field just madness like that's, you know, anytime you have a wildcard loss in just just to be a while game. Terrible, terrible feeling. But I can't think I guess. You at any Super Bowl. Have you been to soup now? Thank God. I was not at that Super Bowl, like is I almost went as would've been watching the falcons lose out of the patriots. I can't imagine if I had to watch that in in person, I would have walked. I mean, I remember walking from the bar. I went to see it with my friend, Greg, a patriots fan, and we've only gone out. We both walked back to our neighborhood from the bar and it was how do you walk back? I was just like, I can't believe this. What we believe it. Now he was very cool and you know, arm on the shoulder kind of buddy being like, I'm, I'm sorry, Greg, his buddy Gregg doing one solid for the New England sports community that might not have been sort of thoughtful. Yeah, yeah, people. It was a good friend right there. Yeah, guy. Okay. Good arts. Let's talk about your your film all square here. You kind of play a butter maker character from back in the day of bad news, bears guy who's a little bit rough around the edges. You play a bookie befriending a young boy, teaching them life lessons while also trying to make book and kind of, I guess, bring everybody together. Yeah, through all squares at an appropriate. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's a kind of guy who is trying to teach life lesson thinking that he's doing the right thing. Sort of like, you know, Billy Bob Thornton's character in bad, Santa, he he's giving advice like a genius, and he's not quite a genius, but he's got a good heart and the film has a good heart like it's got a, you know, it's not this. You don't get the super happy ending, but everyone gets a little bit better in the film. Like everyone grows like an inch and like the bad news bears. It's sort of this. Tip your hat. So to speak to that to that John RA to that old school style of filmmaking where it doesn't have to be this super happy ending is just this is cool little film and even kind of has that looked to as you saw in the in the Trevor? Well, you also told me there's an a little Lincoln and odd to the bad news bears at. Yes, correct. Chico's bail bonds. We have in the outfield there at the part, one of our banners in the field as Chico's. A little bit of back to. There's a couple of things in there that I think real sports fans get get a kick. Excellent, and it's theaters on demand, October, twelve and house of cards returns November second. Okay. For the final now, you for those who are watching right now and can here as well. You are a very nice person. Thank you. Smiling, allot laughing along Doug stamper. You play on house of cards is exactly the opposite. Yeah. Where do you find that? My, I always say that there's, you know, there's a little bit of you in every one that you play. You try to bring his much yourself to the character. I just I don't know where I am in that guy except for that he does. I believe, at least. I mean, I know that he does some horrible things, but he does have a good heart underneath. He does what he does because he thinks it's the right thing to do. But inside he's, you know. He's a misunderstood, kinda guy complicatedness kinda got right. It has a decent heart. He just never has had, you know, you see the relationship with his brother with his family. It's never nothing was ever great in his life, you know? So he just sort of finding his way through it and his addiction is work is all that is sort of a byproduct. You just find his way through life. Well, I'm not going to troll for a spoiler because I know you will not call one up yet, but can you does it? Does it get tied up in bow by the end of it, give us that. Certainly. Certainly a lot does. I mean, they do it is a a proper ending in a sendoff to a show that it's been on for for six years. You know, you do. I think the audience will feel some sense of of resolve to it. It's it's I, I'm, I'm such a, I can't believe the writers pulled off. You know, when you think about the fact that we were to in with Kevin, when when they. Us on the whole dare and what they were able to pull off in three months had author team. We're pretty much done and then completely rewrite a season in three months. So that's what I, that's I do remember that you were to would Kevin Spacey had known was pulled off the cast. Yeah, it they. So you as an actor and everybody else should go back to whatever you're doing, whatever you had to do. Yeah, remarks while the the writers came what we wrote the final season of house of cards. Yeah, and it happened in stages, right? We all went home. I was home when it happened, happened midday and Robin was there. And she said, let's finish today and the whole Christain. They were like, you guys go home and they write, let's finish the day and they all stayed and finish the day. And then we're on on a on a height, and there was a lot of uncertainty, but Robin and myself and Netflixing MARCY. Everyone was just like, we gotta. We gotta finish this and it was just sort of like, okay, but how. You know. So it was three months of sort of figuring out how could do it and how we could bring that conclusion for the fans. And and that was the first streaming show on Netflix. It was the first original content show, and I think everyone's just say, we gotta finish. We, we have to. So I because I was going to say that Michael Kelly here on the rich Eisen show that you know the alternate complement to house of cards is when you first came on the air. It's like, okay, interesting show. But it's on a streaming service. You know, like it's not on TV and it's not on pay cable and it's not something that I could just turn television on. I gotta find it on my TV or stream it. Now there's. Thousand thousand. Yeah, shows I I it's funny. I remember having the phone call with with be my manager and we were. He was like, how's it going? A few weeks in ventured, show me some some dailies adventure. Sure. Sure. And, and he said, how's it going? And I was like, we're making something in incredible. I don't know if anyone's ever gonna see it. Something incredible. You know, I, I knew you could feel it onset. The writing was so good directing loose over. The acting was was in credit had never been surrounded by such a group of fine actors at that time in my career, and it was just, we all knew it, but it was the unknown. Was Netflix funny. I mean, how are they gonna watch it, you know? And now it's just second nature and you're an Amazon show Jack Ryan with John. Christie, who is a diehard patriot fan? Yes. Because funny, you're on my podcast with my wife yesterday and she's a die-hard patriots fan, and she was making fun of my jet fandom without revealing her patriot phantom yet. And I'm guess what teams and you don't tell me. Tell in the way that which she was gloating. I was like a patriot fan. She didn't say diva like that's a patriots fan. We're gonna win. We always win Crecy like that to know he's, he's a pretty cool guy. I mean, he, he laughs, he laughs. About that. But windows actually worse because he's a saints fan. We've had him on the show and he is, but he told me something we were just together to birthday party few nights ago, and he said, you know what? Stop talking because he. I decided 'cause he was like he was. He was jabbing me about upcoming game, and I was like, I don't do that. Man. I, I don't talk trash because it just always comes back to bite you and he's like, what do you mean? He didn't understand. I, I don't know, man, good luck. So what do you say after the game he he was. He was pretty cool like he throws one around and then and then he's like, you know, I'm just playing, but then he told me, like, I think I'm gonna stop doing that one in three or falcons, unfortunately. But you got the Braves to be diving headfirst into the playoffs and all square in theaters and on demand October twelve. You're good man. Michael Kelly, with everything you're doing with the house of cards, can't wait to see the finale and Jack Ryan on Amazon and all square and everything else that you're up to. And you got always Michael j. Kelly JR junior on Twitter, I follow him. You should as well or back with more in a moment. The Lakers are visually here on the official Lakers podcast on podcast, one sports neck joint EMMY award winning sports reporters in pro host, Aaron lar- Soule as they discuss the Lakers news of the day and break down the upcoming season with the biggest guests around including shack magic and the new king of LA libra. Sean, James checkout the official Lakers podcast every week on podcast, one sports net or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. 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You're the, you're back. Batman, what do you mean? You're dreaming. You're in a bat cave for I get like crazy Dr. Dreams like that. It's not. They're not scarier. Crazy like is, have you sought help for this now? I've been talked it out with anybody. I mean, I wanna buy the batmobile if I can find it, but it's not for sale right now. It's available. I think in the car museum here in Los Angeles. Let's go to phone lines here. Jacob in California. You're here on the rich Eisen show. It's up Jake. Hey, rich, thanks for taking my call. You got it. Just want to say one thing before I tell my devastating sports attendance stories are, but just one thing I wanna give a shout out to my daughter who turned one year old today. Jacob look at you. Congratulations. Thank you very much. You are Welkom. So with that, the game attendant was a saints first Vikings in New Orleans on Monday night football almost actually ten years ago to the day. But so this game the saints shutdown. Adrian Peterson, he had like thirty five yards rushing or something like that. And Reggie Bush almost single-handedly kept the saints in the game. He had to punt returns for touchdowns, and he almost had a third one where he like tripped on his own feet, and otherwise he'd been long gone and had a third return for a touchdown. And again, almost like two hundred yards put return. But. Walk. Martine gramatica Martin gramatica missed a field goal. There was like a thirty yard field goal and Gus Farrah. After that led the Vikings down kick the field goal after that the saints lost the game, and I'll just never being super pissed about it. Jacob, at least you've got your daughters when your birthday too much onto today. Thanks for calling in right there. I thought, you know, Vikings saints. I thought it was gonna go many different directions. I thought he was that Viking fan that was in the the dome for the NFC championship game. I thought it might have been the season kickoff after the saints at one at all. He went off the board. You know, I was in, I was in, I was in that dome when they reopened it for Katrina, that was unbelievable. Just to go positive here because we've been going negative on it. That was unbelievable. I was there for for the NFL network and you know that was the Steve Gleason moment. Right? And I'll never forget. It was me Marshall Faulk, Steve Mariucci. We did the pre game show for that. Spike Lee came on our set so to Paul Tagliabue they reopened the dome three plays in YouTube played. There comes the punting unit, and we all know that you know out came no YouTube play you to play that the reopening they didn't play. Yeah, they played the Super Bowl. Yes, they played before. Yeah, that's right. Wow, that I don't remember because I was remember things come March. Obviously the police in block punt. And then there's two other things too. Okay that I remember for that game. One is on the sideline with Marshall Faulk who is the most popular guy in that stadium because he's from New Orleans. And security comes up to me as I'm standing tomorrow and says, you've got to leave the sideline. What. Tell you the story kick me off and I say to Marshall like this, you have to go to guy. Ios note. He could stay, but you have to go. What. So Marshall talk to the security guy. After I left the stadium and he, he cut me back in. He said the security guy told him that ESPN saw me on the sideline and kick me off. Yeah, my old employer somebody called down and said, he's gotta go. Marshall can stay until I get an SPF inviting more. So now it's time bump. But that was a few years after I hadn't gotten SPN vite. In a mall now, while we got right, I mean, and then and then. We left right around the third quarter because we weren't doing the postgame shell and we're like, aren't mooch. Let's go out marshals. I got the spot. We were all set and she's like, nominee go down. I gotta go to sleep. I'm gonna go back though. Tell room. I'm tired, come on Steve and he goes next time. I'm like, yeah, next time almost off the right and they celebrate a resurgence unlike any other with a block, punt that nearly absolutely took the rue took the roof back off. Right. Let's do it. Then. Come on. The times which went back to his hotel room. Alan Dallas, you're here on the show. It's up. Tweeted that you guys we've discussed before that I was that they call BELTRAN Coltart strike as I know. But I was at another. I think of another game I was at this game. I'll give this one New York football giants, playoff game, two thousand five versus Carolina Panthers at home, January eighth. They lost twenty three to nothing at home. It's not the pain of the calls BELTRAN play, but God that was awful. Yeah. Well, Carolina, not mistaken. Went to the NFC championship game that year. Was that the Super Bowl is that the other made it. Patriots. Those they went to the Super Bowl Sean foster, remember him. Yeah, they were day could hitch in the mouth. That team. I mean, there's nothing worse. There is nothing worse and I wish all your friends and California could experience being giant stadium in January. When your team is losing it is the coldest place on God's earth. Is that really it really would blow off of, you know, Jimmy Hoffa's grave and I'll give you another one. I'll give you another game. I was at jets giants. Probably eighty five eighty seven eight, something like that. Okay. Eighty nine. The giants had to win the game was the last game of the season. The giants had to beat the jets. I think they lost, but then the Rams the Rams won again in giant stadium. Last game of the year. It's the worst. It's the worst, the worst area to be in ever in the cold weather, and I'm sure they'll to been to Brockman Brocklin's. He's back in the eighties. Brockman. Thanks for the call out out eighties Brockman. You were just a young pup looking at dick McPherson hoping that you're Syracuse. Orange connection would actually lead to some patriots wins. The Tony eastern era, I believe I lived in Virginia in the late eighties. Okay. My grandfather was a Redskins fan. And then when did you love? When did you start loving the patriots moved to Maine until you move to me. Okay. There you go. And you're close proximity to Michael Kelly today, he's a big Georgia bulldog fan. I'm a huge bulldog. I know that as your watch is in overtime yesterday. Going to the Braves game tomorrow really braced for now. Okay. That's gonna be fun. Fun darling, Andy, Dalton, Michael, Kelly, wanna. Thank them tomorrow. Show Lincoln Riley Oklahoma's taken on Texas. Lincoln Riley wants talks and Baker Mayfield Michael chiklis is in studio. Yeah. He might bring his pug named Tom Brady. The pug has been invited and Sindbad will be here as well. And I will either be here with bells on or a shell of a man. 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Thom's Skins' Season Pick + Kevin's Super Bowl Pick

The Kevin Sheehan Show

51:25 min | 1 year ago

Thom's Skins' Season Pick + Kevin's Super Bowl Pick

"You want it. You need it. It's what everyone's talking about the kevin sheehan show now here's kevin you're listening listening to the sports yep. He's here that guy. <hes> errands here also and it's the last show before the n._f._l. Season begins gins because tonight. Tommy dent then we get the n._f._l. Back finally and we get it back in a big way. Packers and bears not a bad game. Now start the season with it's the n._f._l.'s hundredth anniversary. They're they've gone away from the super bowl champion opening up this thursday night game and they've gone with a long standing ending rivalry in fact i believe i think that's bears is the longest standing rivalry although they weren't the bears when they played back in they they were the stanleys yeah but you can't go wrong with tradition. I don't think yeah probably not i. I actually think that <hes> the bears cardinals originals the two franchises the staley's became the bears yeah right and the other chic- chicago cardinals became the arizona cardinals. It may actually be the longest running rivalry corrine terms of the first time they played but packers bears. No one's gonna wanna cardinals pair now to open up the season. Although actually you know what if cuyler i learned murray had been in the opener tonight. It would have been somewhat interesting to watch how are you. I'm doing great doing great. This is also the last time we'll be together there before the redskins play on sunday and we're going to get your season prediction. We'll get your prediction for the game on sunday. <hes> we've got other things to do. I gave out my n._f._c. picks she yesterday i'll give out my n._f._c. picks today which will include getting to the super bowl winner. I want a couple of n._f._l. Predictions from you today also we should talk about nats braves rather important series yes but i wanted to tell you that on my way up here because you've been here for a while waiting for me to show up and and <hes> hopefully you were fed well because mama lucia's as they do from the gods david dropped a mama lucia's offer somebody somebody from mama lucia's dropped mama lucia's awesome pizza. We've got other things and it's really really good. <hes> seems like you've enjoyed it. Yes and you can tell by the mets on your the a mess on the table but i was waiting for the elevator to come upstairs in this swear to god to dudes hanging out down in that you know where that second elevator to come up to two guys hanging out by the plaza level into that remodeling company yeah when they're having the following conversation the only difference in this team the only place it got worse is at left tackle of trent doesn't show up everywhere else else. They are either the same or better than they were last year and the other guy so what about quarterback he said well you know case keenum and join haskins. You know there's some questions nations around the quarterback but it might be with case keenum better situation than it was last year with alex smith. This is the conversation. I'm listening to at the elevator. <hes> you know what i i. I can't believe all this because i believe that redskins fans have talk them into the talk themselves into the notion that they're no worse off with case keenum at quarterback than they were with with alex smith well. I actually do believe that <hes> if that's if that's the case then bruce bruce allen got hoodwinked absolutely hoodwink last year by trading for alex smith and then giving him the huge contract attract extension basically according to redskins fans case keenum. I was not in favor of the contract extension. I was is not against the trade. They needed a quarterback. They and you pointed this out and i think this had a lot to do with it. They needed to save face. You know after the bungling of the cousins situation and look nobody knew in the moment a year ago that minnesota was going to go from n._f._c. Championship team to not making the playoffs kirk actually had a decent year. We've gone through that but it wasn't good enough in big spots. There was the feeling a year ago look out. If minnesota ends up in the super bowl and bruce salaun in bruce allen in the redskins had had a feeling that they better have somebody here that can actually play the position and they gave up a lot for him. I didn't have a problem on with the trade. I had a problem with the contract extension. Let me just finish the conversation that i overheard so the other guy said no no no no they're. They're not any better at quarterback. I mean case keenum was is not a good quarterback in dwayne. Haskins is going to be a rookie and that's gonna be the deciding factor and then. I heard the following from the one guy jay. Gruden is the most underrated coach in the n._f._l. Guy i didn't have the heart to so like jump into the conversation because the elevator had just arrived and i got on the elevator because i'm running late and we gotta get this show done and i because i was <music>. I the radio station today a lot of traffic coming over. Nobody cares about my situation. I don't wanna sound like chris runs until you all the reasons. I was late for the show but when i heard that i just had this big grin and i'm like this is what i'm gonna open with a story that i gotta tell tell me the most underrated coach in the n._f._l. Jay gruden unbelievable. It's unbelievable power or kuwait really. Is you know he's not a terrible coat. No he's not. He's a middle of the pack coach. He's he may be a good offensive coordinator. He's north turner. No norv was better offense coordinator than jay okay but it's it's the same concept. The guy promoted to a position that he really can't handle. I mean being a head coach. <hes> is more than just drawing up. The first fifteen plays a that. Your team is going to tell you and he's been he's been lacking in that. In those areas. I mean just ask every every team leader who gets cut by this team about what they think about sacred. Look jay's a good guy. Jay is a good offensive offensive mind north turner good guy j good offensive sign a pass offense. J. knows football. <hes> jay is not you. You know a top half of the league head coach. He is somewhere. I think i've said this before. He's somewhere between sixteen and twenty two somewhere in that range not much tire. We don't need to go through the whole list. All of you are now thumbing through the list of coaches and there are a lot of new coaches this year so this year if you if you strike all of the new coaches he might be fourteen or fifteen or sixteen somewhere rain. E._s._p._n.'s louis riddick posted a few days ago who he thinks. I think the top ten coaches are in. Maybe it was top five or top top five or top ten right. <hes> jay gruden was not on the list. You know who was who doug peterson he was on the list. Oh there's no doubt yeah. Doug peterson is in that conversation right now. Redskins are ten point underdogs now erin that that line has gone to ten. I i want to just quickly do the nats because this is one of the biggest regular season season series they've ever had as an organization. They have not had a september meaningful. You know three or four games set with a team with playoff stakes playoff implications division pennant implications in their history in washington. It's gonna get overshadowed shadowed by the first weekend football yes in places like washington you know and maybe even in atlanta but i look at it as as they they're pretty safe for the wild card right now they've got. They've got a healthy lead on the second wildcard spot. It's like six games over philadelphia elvia. You'd have to really come down the stretch sub five hundred with philadelphia or somebody below them lighting it up down the stretch to lose one of those two wildcards look. I think you're a little bit too worked up about the brave series. They're not gonna catch braves there too far behind the price as would have to collapse for ferdinand. That's the catch him at this point not back. Would they need to be right now for you to call this a really big series. I'd say maybe four games games. Okay not seven games where they are. It's crazy. I know they played well. They play and they played them again next weekend and home. They played three games against the braves at home. <hes> what you don't i. I think a lot of fans have falling into the security of okay. You know we'll we'll we'll be a wildcard and what you don't want though is to be the second wildcard team. You don't want to play that wildcard game on the road not that they have a huge you know home field advantage vantage just if you'd like to have at least one playoff game at home this year and i think it'd be disappointed everybody if they wound up playing that wildcard game in someplace other than that's park because right now it would be more likely than not at field where the last time they had a playoff game at wrigley field strasbourg came up massively to force a fifth and deciding game in the in that playoff series a few years back <hes> all right. I guess don't don't have high expectations. I'm many expectations and all of them. They win three out of four all right so they if they if they were to win three out of these four games in their i five back coming off of this you know they. They've got hopes if win any i mean a split there done you know losing three out of four getting swept. They're done obviously if they win. Three out of four or somehow were to sweep the braves which i don't anticipate the braves have won six in a row and ah they're really good <hes> but if somehow they were were to win three out of four or you know <hes> miraculously sweep on you're talking about a legitimate pennant race now atlanta has philadelphia six times and then they got a bright got the giants who aren't playing great anymore. They've got the royals they finish at the mets but this i'll grant you that you know. Seven games back does not make like a vital crucial all sip timber series. I guess it's just the first time that they've had one in september. That's been anywhere near this important. Yes and granted. It's a shame because his as well as they've played that they're not closer but it's because atlanta's yeah been so good to me. If you're going on the road to play one of the best teams in baseball in the braves and you come away with a split you should be happy. Yeah i mean the assed. I look if they play five hundred all the rest of the way they're going to be there have a wildcard they could probably play sub five hundred ball and still have a pretty good chance of grabbing one of the two wild wildcard spots. You know i look at the postseason possibilities you know each throw <hes> the sher- we know out there for a while card game came in. Maybe it's corbin or strasbourg by the time you get there who knows but if you were to win a wildcard game get a really difficult. It's baseball anything can happen. It's best to five but to face that dodgers left-handed lineup primarily with not enough lefties right now that we know of people out consistently that on paper there's not a great matchup terrible match although the nats do have you know some explosive offense now that we weren't talking about a month ago when they were playing well like they're really offensively explosive compared to the other teams nationally anyway. I'm excited about it. I'm curious like tonight. You've got a football football game on and you got the nats on. I'm in a really be into watching the nats. I've gotta do the channel four thing. You know that we do that. Air sunday morning redskins showtime record that but i'm gonna i'm gonna be flipping back and forth. I'd love to see them. Somehow win tonight win tomorrow night. Now you're talking about wow they can go into the weekend wind saturday saturday and sunday your back. You got a lot of momentum but these are the two teams that are playing along with the dodgers and the yankees and the astros better than anybody in baseball yes you you know the nets right now. Are you know are a chic darkhorse. Pick to get to the world series. Now you know that like their odds have been creeping creeping towards. Hey i erin i. I don't know what they are. They are now. They're they're at least twenty percent better than they were. Even two weeks ago in terms of their odds of winning the world series they've got to be the third pick right to win it all national league behind the braves and the dodgers i would think there in front of the cardinals at this point to <hes> to win the world. Have you remember the beginning of the year. The nets were picked by most observers to to go to win the national. You could go to the world series. He's in part because most people recognize. They had an extremely talented roster and it's proven to be the offense at least even better dr than i think what everyone expected. I don't know if anyone expecting one soto to have such a great sophomore. Season or victor obeys to emerge as quickly as he he did right yeah. I i keep going back to those guys. Those two guys the difference the difference in everything. How about the fact that with eaton out. You're going to get cabrera in the lineup fulltime mm for a little bit. It looks like <hes>. I just pulled it up to errands looking at me. I've got on my site. The nats and cardinals are both eighteen to won the world series. Yes look at upenn at odds tied for third with cardinals both tied with the third tied for third the prohibitive favorite to win the world series really it's the astros and the dodgers you know and then <hes> the yankees the yankees are like five to one the astros and dodgers are both in that two two and a half to one range <hes> anyway i <hes> <hes> i want to start the football discussion today with a question that i asked callers today on the radios. <hes> show which i'm going to ask you <hes>. I want want you to fill in the blank on the following sentence. I'd be most surprised if fill in the blank happen this season regarding the redskins. I'd be surprised if blank fill in the blank. This happened during this season. What would you be most surprised about this year with the redskins. You want to let me give you an example or two okay okay. I'd be very surprised if dwayne haskins doesn't start at least eight games this year. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen in part because i just don't believe that this is going to be a real good football team this year so worst case there too in six three and and five and they decide the quarterback plays not great the offensive play. Let's go to him. The eagles are already. You know seven in one or six into the cowboys or six and two way i ain't going to the playoffs and i think we see haskins for at least eight starts. I think it could be more but i'd be surprised if dwayne haskins doesn't start at least eight games. I've got a couple of more as you're thinking about it. You want me to give you another wondering dot com. It's consistent with what i've said all along and you know it may alter slightly if and when troy oz returns the play. This may alter a little bit but i'm going to stick with it. I'd be surprised if the redskins quarterback who finishes the season is on the roster right now. You've said that for well. That's a good one yeah i'd be most people think i'm crazy when i say that i've had people call the radio station to say because you're predicting that it that you the three quarterbacks get hurt yes. You're always get hurt because i watched it last year. I know that's true you. Did i mean we saw broken leg broken roken leg and then shots johnston mark sanchez. I yet but we didn't get hurt. He neatly often suffered from not able to play n._f._l. Football but shosh johnson at the end of the year was was hurt. He had that postseason surgery right ankle surgery think of another one because i'm going to give you my second one. Okay i'm ready. I'd be surprised if jay gruden actually gets fired hired in season. It's not been the move for dan snyder since he did it with norv turner. There's actually not a lot to gain from it. You know you see you're not going to hire your replacement. In december you may hire that replacement the day after the season ends but you can fire that coach on the day that the season ends and the higher the new guy simultaneously. There's nothing that prevents you from doing that his odds by the way for being fired continue there continues to be even more separation ration- <hes> between jay gruden and the field for the first coach fired jay gruden right now plus two seventy five to be the first coach fired word <hes> during the season the second favourite is no coach gets fired and then the third favorite is bill o'brien plus one thousand so jay's his two point seven five to one in bill o'brien's ten to one jay is a massive favourite. No coach being fired is eight to one is a massive the favourite to be fired in midseason. That's about as good a strong possibility vegas telling you of a coach being fired in season as you'll ever see before the season starts. I don't think it'll happen. I don't think it'll have it's not as a fan snyder ammo. It hasn't been he had he didn't do it with jim zone born. He tried to get him sworn to quit but you know the sore so are looked at. Someone's wife looked at those paychecks instead. I'm not going any. We're not going anywhere. Let me piggyback heke back on that. I'd be surprised if the guy who replaces him and todd bowles. Wow where'd you come up with todd bowles. I'd be thrilled about that but why would you come up with todd bowles because they off season discussions with them about the defensive coordinator ashish yeah and i bet that some of those discussions included just sit tight. There's there's going to be head coaching job. Here's maybe here's the problem with bowls. He's going to have an awful season defensively but that won't steiner snyder won't alsop snyder stated with the the public reception will be a little. It'll be down which actually might be even more of a reason because nobody else will be going after him. He's fixate on them plus plus i think i think the public disappointment will be overshadowed by the fact that he's a former redskin. People will love that. Oh i don't know about that. I hope that wouldn't be the reason. I actually like todd bowles. Allot <hes> i think if they had kept him in new york it woulda worked out for him now that they finally have a quarterback there or at least the perception is that they have a quarterback back in darnold there. That's that's bold. I mean mark that one down erin you know if if they end up hiring todd bowles to be their next head coach you heard it here first you know on september for fifth. Tommy saying that todd bowles is going to be the next head coach. I think actually right now. The odds on favorite to be the new head coach in twenty twenty s kevin o'connell because assuming that o'connell is the guy that release developing dwayne haskins and there's progress there. Maybe it's j. That ends ends up you know developing the relationship <hes> with haskins but remember this too and i know that you know people are out there saying god. Would you guys stop bashing gnashing them. It is hard now for dan snyder and bruce allin. If bruce allen still here wouldn't be nearly as hard if he weren't to attract you know a proven coach that might be available yes and by the way the up incomers whomever they are by the time we get to january twenty twenty will have better options. You know so you're gonna be left. The redskins were in two thousand fourteen with a guy that really not not a lot of people wanted to be their head coaching jay jay gruden mike zimmer was the assistant that people were clamoring for at cincinnati wasn't jay gruden gruden was a candidate gruden was thought to be a potential head coach but the redskins the last two times they've been in search mode gyms orne is was turned out to be the head coach and then it was a well shanahan they were in search me there and that was that was a boatload of money yes but they won't attract their top two choices more likely than probably not <hes> the other thing that i had on my. I'd be surprised <hes> list is. I'd be surprised if the defense isn't significantly improved. They finished twentieth in the n._f._l. Ratings are right which is a better measurement of sort of their overall defense is compared to the rest of the yards allowed stat that everybody uses his not a real. Oh good measuring stick of how good you were defensively. I like some of those simple statistics. I'm not going analytical on you here. I promise i like you know things like rush defense. It's in average yards per. Rush offensively average yards per rush given up allowed turnover margin obviously but the redskins were not the great defense. What's that a lot of people seem to think they were boy. That has been a that's been some sort of level of revisionist history. Hasn't that the defensive so awesome. Last year it wasn't and and the giants the forty points the giants scored should be a reminder in two and a half quarters <hes> but it was improved from twenty seventeen seventeen yes and it was significantly improved from twenty sixteen and i'd be surprised if it doesn't take a major jump this year from twentieth twentieth two somewhere approaching a top ten you know defense and we don't need statistics will be able to see it on the field. We'll be able to see it week by week so anyway. I that that's my other one. I'd be surprised if they aren't significantly improved defensively somewhere. You're a jumping from twentieth to somewhere in that ten to twelve range be disappointed to if they're no let me piggyback on that. Is it a greg gerski. I'd be surprised yes. It's interesting how i can predict almost everything you're about to say. I think people are going to be disappointed in a redskins defense run by a defensive coordinator who they tried all winter to replace and also without at least two coaches from last year's team who basically couldn't get at couldn't get out of dodge quick enough replaced by two coaches who were out of football last year. Greg husky is the one who's going to get fired during the season as it's the defense winds up being a major disappointment and rob ryan replaces defensive. I'd be surprised if manosque doesn't doesn't get fired in season rob ryan replaces them you got the i don't mess around with them i. I wonder if it would be tom similar or ryan b boy. I mean they just have so so much death. Yes they are. I have another question for you. We touched on this. I think or maybe it was when you were out sick. The top op one hundred lists on e._s._p._n. And on <hes> n._f._l. Dot com the top one hundred players yeah not one redskin was on the top one hundred players and the e._s._p._n. List in the only only player on the top one in the top one hundred on the <hes> n._f._l. Network list was trent williams who came in at eighty one. Who are the best s. players on this team like right now. If i asked you to name the three best players on the team who would you name. I would name trent williams okay. That's fair enough. He's not on the team. Let's leave him off. Okay i would name matt. I notice as one of the three players on the team. Yes i think i think he's better than jonathan our painting okay i would name ryan kerrigan and i would name landing counts announce. Okay you know part of what i wanted to do. Here was also say. I don't know that the redskins have an obvious you you know a player like a true player. That would have been considered for the top one hundred hence. They're not in the top one hundred shrimp williams's in a player yes but he's not on roster right now so do they even have a player. You're you matt. I in my opinion not one of the three best players i do like him. I think he's a very good player. I think he's better than than the guys here in love with on the defensive line. I think that brandon sheriff would be one of the top three players on the team without without trent williams on it. I actually believe that adrian. Peterson is probably one of the top three players power. Coach doesn't agree with you. I understand that <hes> but that's because they're going young and he's got a lot of faith. Gonna get really ugly. I know we <hes> you know what got him got to talk about that. Because i forgot you weren't with me yesterday when we did this <hes> and i would probably put jon allen on that list is infatuated with doron pain to me is the most intriguing player to watch the shear because i i have a feeling that it's going to be very obvious by the midway point in the season that he's one of the top three players can't say that now definitively but he looks different like physically build wide away athletically whose whose strongest guy in the team probably i yes and this is what you need to remember about strong on people there are more useful and they're harder to kill <hes> it depends on what you're using but the but so anyway that would be sort of my top three with pain in collins sort of on the outside looking in you know a of that top three <hes> all right the adrian peterson thing <hes> that report came from jason bishop on the junk on your state one zero six seven and i don't don't have any reason to believe that it wasn't true <hes> let's assume for a moment that it is true that jay gruden and the rest of the organization had an argument. He wanted to release adrian peterson and they said no. You're not allowed to release adrian peterson and even take it back to when they re signed him as a free agent and in consider the following going to be fact that jay never wanted to resign him in the first place. This is a big assumption that it is true the report. What do you think well. I think jay's comments comments. Yesterday i think it was yesterday when asked about geiss <hes> and how he was so firm <hes> in in his support of guys jason like there like there was no plan b. even consider for jay. That's a bit unusual. I mean to be so particularly firm in in their decision to go with dyson and it was almost like you know like he. He had a little personal thing going on here. He's sick and tired up here in about adrian peterson in the building so when he got a chance publicly to talk about guys he was firm one hundred percent in dairies geis's corner as is there number one back going into season just to be clear and by the way i agree with you on that he was asked if adrian peterson would have a lesser role but why didn't and somebody asked him point blank in the press conference yesterday if if they if adrian peterson was being discussed as a potential player i mean he would have answered. He wouldn't have answered heard it but i think it could have been asking you agree yeah. He was asked <hes> whether or not adrian peterson would have a lesser role in the offense with the emergence of geiss and he said we'll z. We'll see i think initially we get going. I think you have to start with the first back and you start the game on offense. You start the game with areas skies from there. We'll see where it goes. I'm anxious to see him play. He shown us that he's full go. He's had a good training camp. He said good practices. He's into it meant mentally and he goes on and on about dairy skies. This is not a guy who who he sounds like. He's going to be pulling out every third or fourth running play and replace with somebody else. He basically said you know he wants to see him. Get going and like i wrote about this a couple of weeks ago. I related to the trent williams thing but it it it applies to this as well. Adrian peterson is a financial aw bind he according to a report u._s._a. Today he needs a lot of money. <hes> and that means he needs to play and carry the ball to get some money which which according to jason bishop at one six seven the fan this is why jay wanted to move on from him because adrian's going to be in his ear all season long saying get get me in the game yeah like he was in arizona and like he was a bit with sean payton in new orleans. I went back and looked at the early season. Kerry totals just to to see if there's any indication about with the backup running backs going to get in the opener last year. Adrian adrian peterson at arizona went twenty six carries ninety six yards chris chris thompson as their third down back but also change of pace had five carries and rob kelley who was on the team and healthy at that point had three carries in a game by the way that was is a blowout. Yes you know that in week two against indianapolis in a game by the way that they got behind early in and then threw it a ton to try to come back peterson at eleven carries for twenty yards rob keller grubb kelly. Just have one kerry chris thompson had four carries but they could have been third-down carries. I don't i can't remember what they were but the point here is that jay's not given that backup running back a lotta carries although i would also suggest that adrian peterson is the backup to dairy spices different than rob kelley fat rob's yakup daydream peterson <hes>. I agree with you what you said that it's not just what he said it yesterday or the day before about the offense being in the carries going through geiss. It's been all the talk about some ozzy peering for awhile you know going back to o. T. geza minicamp. He's really building up. He rhine really talked about p. Ryan is quite you know having quite the ta sessions and then when they cut p ryan the other day and he got signed by cincinnati. He said sa- mogae is going to do well. They're almost to say you're going to see we should've kept so maggi and cut adrian. I do think i think there's a chance that there is some truth to this thing. Well you know it's kind of interesting and that shows something that we should be arming to redskins fans. If jay gruden the head coach wanted to keep a backup running back. He should have been able to keep a backup running back if he has so little oh power. I said that yesterday that he couldn't keep you know some odd j. p. rhine on the roster. That's a problem i he should have final also the roster yes actually and the backup running back and less tommy unless there were significant cap considerations which in this particular instance is there really aren't right so i agree with you and i also on the flip side would say you know what jay you're a head football coach in the n._f._l. Part of your job is to manage. Some of these big personalities dairy. Guys had a tornado sale. Last year had a leg injury at l._s._u. He's injury prone and adrian peterson in three carries. He's that he had in. The preseason looked like he did last yet so we need a backup plan and the backup plan should be a._p. He signed for basically a a song and it shouldn't be semi g._p. Rhine so you know manage them. I understand too. I wanna get to your prediction on the season here. Do you have anything else adrian peterson now. Do you have anything else on d hall going from one week saying trent williams and coming back back to a week later saying that trump williams is going to be back sooner than later. Well let me just say like. I don't know anything about what williams is gonna do. I have no knowledge okay but if you're an outside observer looking at this. It would seem like that <hes> the same thing. That's that was obvious to a lot of us. Once the houston trade window closed. I think they looked around and said well. There's no place for me. There's no there's no trae trey partners. I agree you know. I'm really going to be stuck sitting here. Missing paychecks because the redskins don't have really have any obvious trade partner with of this point unless unless somebody drastically gets hurt and my willing to gamble on that to sit here and wait for somebody to get hurt once and you know who knows maybe to use the window was the one trent unwanted law. I think there's a chance that that's true so so i think when that when that bruce should open that damn window yes he should've left that open that that window for them to climb through and say here's what we got for your guy but i hope i hope he listened the he didn't because he wants to win this and he is going to win. Nisa that sense. I mean transferred probably have to come back with his tail between his legs and look i overestimating how albarracin will be but when all is said and done if tread williams comes back. He's gonna look like a fool to look like a child that he threw this tantrum. I mean he could have accomplished the holdout without the whole slandering of the redskins medical staff. He could've done the same same thing to to have brought that into because he would've looked worse from the jump. Had there not been this other issue that created this impression that that he couldn't trust them in couldn't trust them to take care of him medically. I'm i mean i think fans are numb to hold outs. You might be right but it but he but fans would have been much more frustrated with trent holding out with two years left on his deal without the perceived extenuating circumstance i i think i think he's gonna look like a fool when he comes back. He's he's. He's got to look like a child. I who threw a tantrum and got called on it. I don't if if the redskins skins and we may never know this. If the redskins turned down a blockbuster offer from houston <hes> for trent williams. I don't think that they will have won this <hes> by by standing standing their ground digging in their heels and waiting for him to see the houston opportunity go away in the prospect of losing game checks which is gonna lose one this week. He's not back this week <hes> if he does end up coming back <hes> if ultimately the redskins could've gotten a boatload form. I think that the jury's still out i don whether or not they won this thing real quickly stamps dot com. 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I think they're gonna find themselves playing from behind and they're not gonna have any ability to be able to do that. They didn't have the ability to do that. Last year. When they won they were i usually usually took the lead early and then control the game. They're not going to be in that situation this year which is gonna put and i think the special teams aren't going to be as good as they were last fear. I think the defense is while may be improved is going to have more pressure on them this year. I don't think they'll be able to withstand the pressure. I think they'll start to fray fray as the season goes on and i think like i said i'm still sticking with the fact that the offensive line trent williams or not will not at the able to protect any of their quarterbacks and they'll have a quarterback who's not even on the roster come game sixteen. Do you want even predict you. That quarterback might be now. Okay okay all right five and eleven. I that's going to be right in line with i think most of the predictions about the redskins season this year five and eleven is probably blay within a game either way of what most addiction <hes> this year i have not seen them picked any higher than third in any preseason season prediction so far <hes> you wanna stick around while i do my a._f._c. picks. Yes okay because we're doing a shorter show today. <hes> for a number of reasons as we both have commitments aaron's got a commitment <hes> by the way tomorrow show a will include some college football and my redskins season prediction as as well as a preview of skins eagles smell test <hes> it's cetera <hes> i wanted to mention just a couple of things as people get ready to watch their first n._f._l. Game there. There have been some meaningful rule changes first of all the big one that got all the headlines in the off season is being able to use replay challenge the challenge system on pass interference calls either called or or not called off of the saints rams thing <hes> i. I've mentioned this many times. I think this is going to be problematic in the final final two minutes of the half or game because it goes to the booth it should should have been a coach's challenge opportunity in throughout the game for all sixty minutes but it will go to the booth in the final two minutes of a half or a game or the game and that's gonna create. I think many delays in a problem <hes> there they're too many passes too much contact on pass plays and every time a pass interference gets flagged in the final two minutes of a half. You're gonna get a review on it so just just remember that. Here's the other one i wanted to mention real quickly the other rule change you know how when tommy excessive celebration after touchdown yes and they say fifteen yard penalty excessive celebration. It'll be enforced on the <hes> on the kickoff. Yeah we'll now the team on on defense that got scored on gets to choose whether or not they want enforced on the p._a._t. Or the kickoff if you score a late touchdown down eight trying to go for too tight a game and you get flagged for something stupid in the end zone that two point conversion is going to happen at the seventeen yard line. Wow aw that's a problem yeah. If i'm a coach i am making sure that my team understands this rule that we are not in a late game situation on on an exciting you know potentially game tying play or gives you a chance to tie where the stadium's going nuts and we're going nuts. If you do anything stupid we're going to have near zero chance to tie the game because of where we'll be running the play from also at the very end of the game you know down seven seven. Let's just say you score touchdown and there's excessive celebration now. The extra points going to be a forty eight yard extra point while to tie the game so you gotta be careful. Teams in the area could make that. I'm sorry carry lloyd could make that carly carly loyal caller carrie carli lloyd could make it <hes> so one of those things. I bet early in the season. You're going to see that and you're gonna say you know it was twenty. Seven twenty teams scores. It's twenty seven twenty six to get flagged for excessive celebration eight seconds seconds left in the game and the guy hooks the forty eight yard. Extra point sounds like a redskins lost. I which is stop it. That's by the way that's fifteen yards for piling on all right. I gave you yesterday my a._f._c. picks. Many of you were very surprised that i ended up with the denver broncos in the a._f._c. championship game. That's my god own my god flacco. It's much more about author defense. This is potentially the best defense in football with now in n._f._l. Quarterback with some talent more talent on offense and defensive the head coach and a and a great defense head coach in vic fangio <hes> so yesterday. I had the chiefs over the broncos in the a._f._c. <hes> now let me give you my n._f._c. She picks all right here. They are the n._f._c. picks will lead us to who's going to face the chiefs because i had to cheats over over the bonk broncos in the a._f._c. the n._f._c. the cowboys and eagles are both very good football. They really are hate to say it but they really are and by the way there's a massive difference really going into this season between dallas and philadelphia and then the bottom of the division washington and and the giants there is there is from a quarterback standpoint. There is a skill position standpoint in the giants hat some skill position players. You know obviously with saquon barkley. Clearly the offensive lines are better defenses are better in phillies case coaching staff with peterson and schwartz is much better and they've got the phillies get the best quarterback situation in the division with once. I think prescott is a good quarterback but in the mold of put enough around around him and he can be really good. Yes and i think that's what we've seen at times when they put a lot around him. They're gonna fight it out for the division. They're both going to go eleven and five live. There's a late game at lincoln financial second last weekend of the season in philly. They win that game that gives them the tiebreaker advantage edge. I've got the eagles winning the division at eleven and five the cowboys being a wildcard at eleven and five. I got the giants seven and nine improved. I'm i'm not going to be surprised at the giants are much better than people are thinking and i'll save my redskins prediction for tomorrow but i think you can safely come to the conclusion that i do not have them in the postseason and the n._f._c. north is a brutal division the n._f._c. as a whole is so much better in deeper than the a._f._c. Yes in fact. I counted this morning. I think there are nine teams in the the n._f._c. Nine out of the sixteen that if any one of those nine were in the super bowl you wouldn't be that shocked dallas and philadelphia in the n._f._c. east in the the n._f._c. north chicago minnesota or green bay right in the south the saints or the falcons and in the west the seahawks the rams. I don't think anybody would say that's completely. I great with deep deep the n._f._c. is i got the bears winning the n._f._c. north. They've got defensive talent. I mean with jackson on the back khalil mack and the front you know they're going to miss vic fangio as their coordinator. I like their offense of players. I i love anthony anthony miller miller wide receiver. I think in this second year he's going to step up and be a big time player. I really liked the signing of mike davis now. They also drafted david montgomery corrine from iowa state. They're running back in the tar cone as well <hes> but i think davis is a guy that i would have thought about if i needed a running back in the off season zain. He's been in that seattle mixed. The last few years the bears were twelve and four last year lost a home playoff game ten and six this year because of the division and the schedule. I just think the bears will win it. Though i am not high believe it or not on minnesota being a super bowl or an n._f._c. Championship contender like a lot of people are something's not right there. I can't put my finger on it. It might be kirk. It might be the offense city was in. They are doing everything they can do ensure that. He's got everything he needs. Last year they had a terrible offensive line and offensive coordinator situation that didn't work. They had an offense didn't work for him now. They got some advice vice from gary. Kubiak steph fancies the offensive coordinator. They've got some players. They've improved their offensive line. There defense last year was inconsistent. Better late i just i don't know what it is and i love mike zimmer too. I just don't have a great feeling about minnesota. I think they're going to win nine games and be in the hunt for wildcard and being the hunt for the division. I don't see them making this big. Leap this year nine and seven no playoffs. Second-place minnesota detroit is going to be much improved matt stafford. I've been a fan in a little bit of an off year some injuries. They don't have the greatest receivers. They're not terrible. You like golladay right. Don't you a little bit aaron. Golladay solid he solid valid. I'm a big kerryon. Johnson fan tai johnson stuck on that final roster. You predicted that aaron predicted net tied johnson at maryland defensively detroit's pretty damn damn good and they're well coached offensively with obviously their head coach matt patricia i think they'll be improved at eight and eight and i get the packers coming in last at seven and nine you you know a lot of what the packers will do will depend on aaron rodgers. Yes health etc and the relationship. He has with matlock work in the south. I'm rooting against the saints. This is much as anybody in the n._f._l. This year they did after that championship game the whining the suing the legal action from all these fans in different groups. It's just the the poorest of sports. I think the saints were. Oh my god you still have you still have some of these. These lawsuits suits that are good a late or being looked at. Are you calling me so it's it's a game justice. Oh my god it's the worst in the crying from payton in this this pass interference. It's replay rule shit. I'm rooting like hell for them to fail miserably but they're too good to fail too much. I've got him winning the division at eleven and five but the carolina panthers. I liked the panthers this year first of all. I've always been a fan of ron rivera. I know not everybody he is. There's a reason he's still there. After all this time it's because he's actually a pretty damn good coach. They have talent the key of course for them is cam cam newton's health and how north turner uses them but i liked that that relationship a little bit cam newton's gotta stay healthy if he does he has where's the mccaffrey free going in most fantasy draft's top four got mccaffrey. They've got d._j. More back in his second year the god hopefully a healthy greg olsen back and they've got defensive talent. They've added to it. Don terry po gerald mccoy to go with short with keithly. They've got a good football team. I think this this is year. That carolina makes a run. They're not gonna win the division but they're going to get to the post season finishing second with a ten six record in the n._f._c. South falcons are good to another good football team. I just think that the panthers are going to end up being a little bit better. I got the falcons at eight and eight and i got the bucks four four and twelve out west. Here's my surprise in the n._f._c. Seattle wins the division eleven four one no sean mcvay eleven four four and one is the record. I am predicting to them. They're they're gonna. They're gonna tie the forty niners. During the course seattle's seattle's good okay first of all got russell wilson secondly. They are a well coached team thirdly. They just added davian cloudy to a team that already has johnson and i'm bobby wagner and k._j._a. Right they got a chance to be good. We know what their home field advantages. I know they're hoping decay. Metcalf who slipped to the second round ends up merging with tyler lockett is another really good option wide receiver because that's really where they've had some issues in recent years. I like seattle to win the division because one of the teams everybody assumes is going to finish with one of the four best but right now. It's like chiefs. Patriots saints rams. Everybody's got them as a top. We're one of those teams will not make the playoffs and i've got it being the l._a. Rams won't make the playoffs they'll finish ten and six but the lose the tiebreaker breaker with the panthers seattle division rams tenant six forty nine six nine in one and the cardinals foreign twelve for whatever reason seattle and the forty nine hundred tied a couple of times your wildcards your division winners again philadelphia chicago the saints and seattle your top two seeds are going to be <music> <hes> seattle and philly cowboys and panthers of the wild cards in the wildcard round. I got the cowboys over the bears. I've got the panthers over the saints in the upset panthers of the saints in the divisional round. I got the seahawks over the panthers the eagles over the cowboys and then i've got the eagles over the seahawks in the n._f._c. championship game winning in seattle on the road facing the chiefs in a super bowl where you get andy reid and the protege doug peterson and doug peterson and patrick mahomes and the chiefs last year. I was off them. Remember i said not not enough defence fence this year. They've added to their defense and you get mahomes in year two as a starter. It's the chiefs over the eagles in super bowl fifty four there cowboys and girls there. You go boys and girls. That's it for today back tomorrow. Do some college football in do smell test and all the n._f._l. Stuff breath and my redskins record prediction as well have a great day.

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College Football Makes A Conference Call

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College Football Makes A Conference Call

"Can't you put a status update on slacks? Yeah, let me try that. Excuse us. We can't report a podcast right now because we have to figure out our status updates okay I saved. Mine has a little microphone and. The promise people won't know what it means. Hey there welcome to take down the shore. The hot takes up the sports world, the numbers that proved them rights or tear them down. Today is. July Fourteenth Twenty Twenty and I'm seriously the sports editor here it by thirty eight joining me from new. York City is senior sportswriter. Neil pain I kneel. Hi Sarah. How's it going? It's it's you. It's a very Monday Tuesday. I feel like it's going to be Monday's all the way down. From here on out. And from Los Angeles by Thirty Eight. Contributor Foster Hi Jeff. How're Ya, it's hot here I can run this this Mazda recording studio I might have to turn the turn the AC on. I don't think you're allowed to do that. In your reported. We're not supposed to sit in the garage with the engine running. Now Not That Depends on how the show goes right Jeff. Yeah Yeah True Yeah. So Neil I heard. You've been watching some Formula One. You're getting back into your pre pandemic These these Watson formula the Weird Sports. Yeah I mean this was like a nice return for normal. See for me, you know Mercedes has dominated so it's just like normal and Ferrari is having a lot of drama. This is great formula. One is great because it's not really about the races themselves That's guys driving around. You know of course a bunch of times whatever, but it's really about the soap opera aspect of it with the teams, and in this particular case, Ferrari there young up and Comer Charlotte Clare ran into his older and sort of like fallen from Grace Sebastian venable punctured a you know his own chassis in the process just destroyed both of their races on the first lap of the race. Punctured I think no. Lights Chassis on puncture. That's. Rule number one of four. You. Ask Your your the the weird sports that you like are truly amazing. I can't figure out. Why do why you like Formula One. Because you did a story on Formula One. And Now! When I was when I was twelve. Oh right, and that's what most of these things come down to write like. Did I like Sport Xyz when I was twelve? Yes, then. Yes, I'm going to be into it. Did you like formula? One when you were twelve couldn't even drive I found so fun. One one time we're on vacation and I found a Formula One magazine at the place that we're staying. And it happened to be on a race weekend, and so I just was like reading the magazine, and watching it and I was like Oh my God. This is pretty awesome, and that was the genesis of my Formula One Phantom, so really really that could have been anything and sent neil pain on a completely different different. Yeah it could have been about birding or like model plane building, and then all of a sudden. You Know Butterfly flaps. Its wings were not here. Wow you're. So true! On today's show we'll talk about latest cancellations delays, and Conference only schedules as college football desperately tries to keep its Jenga Tower of a season from falling down while also talk about Manchester City is successful appeal of its Champions League ban, and what that might mean for the future of UEFA financial fair play rules. And finally we'll take a deep dive into date with a rabbit hole of the week. A series of dominoes fine over the past week has made the college football season seem even more unlikely, or at least more complicated last, Wednesday the Ivy League announced, it was canceling all fall sports for twenty twenty, then on Thursday, the big ten announced that it would be restricting its scheduled to conference. Only play then on Friday, the PAC twelve followed suit and went to a conference only model. The PAC twelve also announced that its commissioner. Larry Scott has contracted cove nineteen and was in quarantine so everything in college. Football is going great. The ACC SEC and big twelve of all said they will determine what they're doing by. The end of July, but voluntary workouts have already started on college campuses, and in the case of some schools including Ohio State and North Carolina. They've already stopped because of positive coronavirus cases. Colleges are between in Iraq Oh between a rock and a hard place here with the financial incentives, they have to play especially football and the obligations they have to protect their students, but money Jones had this to say on ESPN's outside the lines about the presence of student athletes on campus right now. Everything above football from the numbers of players needed to feel the team, the proximity of the players while they're on the field. Lots of obese players, and the rich old men on the sidelines is a covert Red Flag Arizona's take precautions only allowing twenty Kobe negative athletes as of now, but it is a living breathing. Bad idea the schools are trying because the financial repercussions of missing to season would be monstrous. That's uncomfortable, but it's honest and it's understandable. But having athletes on campus when it's too dangerous for the largest student body. That's given the game away. It was a long ago. We'd assault a player's character for receiving pocket change from a booster. There's more perspective now greater recognition of the inherent unfairness, so-called amateurism and reaction. Victimless crime has been tempered. But we still don't have enough perspective to see a player. As why was good enough for him isn't good enough for his classmates fill in the obvious blank because the players worked for the school and a real students don't. So is this rights are our schools sacrificing player safety for the financial incentives that they have to play? Jeff. What do you think about that? Yes yes, the answer to that question. If they play would be yes, because. That's just the way college sports is I mean it's about money? I mean these are the two. This is a revenue sport. This and it's serious. It's a serious to the revenue for a lot of these. All these athletic departments with football teams especially on a year where you already lost the NC. Double A. Tournament you already took a big revenue had not to mention the the money that schools left and right are hitting are gonNA get in general by not having? You know people on campus You know there's just not. Zahn of money in there to support a full athletic department and I think they need football for you know to to float a lot of these athletic departments and I think what we'll see you know you know. It's about money, but it's not in some cases about greed. It's about money that's necessary to you know, keep student athletics going I mean I think we might see programs shutdown. We might see all sorts of effect to this in not just the this year in the next couple. Couple of years. Yeah, and this idea that you know sacrificing player safety for financial incentives. I mean that is true pretty much everything not just in sports, but like the whole of society is sacrifice being people's health to some degree or another because of financial incentives, I mean it is sort of a balancing act between like how much activity can we sustain while you know trying to keep the virus? And I'm not saying that we're doing that at the moment, but I mean that's like. Like the terrible thing about the virus is that it shuts down a lot of the things that make our economy go, and so you have to choose like it's about trade offs, and in this particular case. Yeah, you're totally right, Jeff. If this a sport that didn't generate money like football. Football is the Revenue Generating Sport not just of revenue, Generating Sport and so you know if it were any other sport, they cancel it and in this particular case they're keeping it open because the. The consequences, and in some ways self-serving for the athletic directors in the school, certainly, but the consequences financially short and long-term could be really devastating, and that's why they're trying it now. That being said it's a pretty easy fix. You could give everyone in the country red shirt. We already have redshirt as a system you know for injuries or transfers and you know you give everyone a red shirt, and then if you need a red shirt on top of a redshirt or call that something new. I mean. A pink shirt and and yeah. You're a year older, but you know. Most of them are not going the NFL anyway and we've seen guys you know. Play College football long past their actual like graduation from solid. What does, it matter. You know. Yeah, I mean. I I don't know that there is like malicious intent here grown adults athletes. Can decide for themselves whether the trade off is worth it for them whether their family needs them to not not play, not go to these bubbles, or whatever, or whether their family needs them to play students don't. I feel like the college needs to take more of a step to protect their students. They're still that weird. You know they're not quite fully formed adults yet. I know they're technically adults, but they seem young. They seem younger all the time. Honestly Maybe that's just me feed very old. All of us. Yeah but I feel like there's something else that that colleges older students there and like if it's taking that hit for a year financially. I. Mean I think we're the whole. Country is taking a hit financially right I. It's just interesting to me. How this like every sport situation we've encountered is a microcosm of what the country at large is facing the money in college. Athletics I think is just GONNA. Make happen even regardless of of students, testing positive, or not I don't. Do you guys think it is going to happen that? The season is going to happen for college football who? Who I don't know I mean the we'll talk about the conference. Only stuff which I think maybe makes it more likely that it's going to happen, but I was just. GonNa say offered the decentralized nature of college sports and college football. Since we're talking about it I think also plays a big role in just why it feels a lot less well organized and more dangerous I mean. They didn't even have a centralized national championship until pretty recently. that. You know it's just this hodgepodge of a bunch of different. you know tolerance is for risk and you know they're organized by conference, and by Athletic Program you know deans of the different schools like there's so many different moving parts, and there's no centralized leadership to to say like this is how we're doing it, which is actually somewhat similar to the situation to like. Maybe. Really familiar right? Yeah! I mean, every state has stitched together its own. You know wildly dispirit response plan intesting testing plan all of these things and they've had different outcomes as a result, and so I think college football might be the most American of all sports in a lot of different ways, and that's why we're kind of seeing it. Struggled to to come to grips with. This is probably even more so than the pro sports. Yeah well so all right the conference only models will those make a difference here I mean. You know the big ten is not exactly a tight, little regional outfit anymore to be. It's not anymore. I mean Nebraska's traveled Maryland Wisconsin supposed to go to a records like the big ten. Isn't that so neither is the PAC twelve? So Neil? Are they really mitigating risk here? I mean they're probably mitigating it some just because the fewer places you have to travel to fewer opponents that you have to play you know probably cuts down on the transmission if there is some kind of outbreak in one place. In theory, if each conference is a bubble, unto itself then if there's some kind of outbreak with one team, it won't affect all of college football. It will only affect the teams that those have played, but as we saw when things shutdown back in March, the ripple effect of how quickly you know some positive tests on one team can spread out across a bunch of different other teams. I think it's I think it's two things. I think the main thing is about time. You know the the ANA conference games of the first three games by doing this. You're buying time I think. The way. Were seen. You know spikes hospitalizations in intests and. Across the country, they just can't start right now in this. Current environment the way that the way this thing see is seemingly spiralling out of control again. they need good news. They need to see cases going down I think from a medical perspective that they won't start I if cases are still climbing like this so by by pushing it back to what first week in October. Or late. September, whatever it is you're buying a little more time for things to turn around and even within that. If you're you know if it's just conference play, you can also cut down from a a nine or ten game schedule to you know even fewer games. If you had to you know you could say you're just playing the teams in your division. If you have divisions in one of these conferences so I think that's a big factor, it gives them more control and also gives them control against who they're playing. They can just set the rules at at as you said Neal. Comparison to the Federal Government and state responses. Is Very Apt. In this case, there is no national leadership, and and really the losers will be the the group of five conferences. I think because those conferences generally have less money and they depend on these games, and you know we pro. We point to these high profile. You know Ana Conference match ups you know at the beginning of the year, and those are the ones every watched, but that's not the vast majority of the vast majority is not Alabama crane USC. It's Alabama plane. Kent State. And well, that is not an important game to Alabama, that's very important game to Kent State especially in terms of money. So if we if cultural does go ahead and and colleges do try to get a this fall, but all five power five conferences, which conference only schedules that has a bunch of other implications to Neil. What would that mean for the College Football playoff while they have said that? They are just GonNa. Use the same criteria as always. Four best team! Which I think is. I've, Already. I think last year we made the case for an Expanded College Football playoff one that probably includes automatic bids for all the power, five conference, plus some at large or maybe something from one of those group of five conferences as well and. That made sense an enormous season. I think that's the only thing the makes sense in a situation like this. Because if every conference is their own self contained closed system, we have literally no way to know who you know how the conferences stack up, and it really is going to default back to like the SEC. The big ten Clemson I mean they'll probably just use the perceptions of how good the conferences were from twenty nine a replay of last year's playoff. Yeah! It might actually be that which would be a real shame you know obviously as far as these things go in the grand scope of things, it's a small shame, comparatively in the pandemic, but it it. It definitely speaks to the fact that in college football. You're already don't play enough games and not enough of a sample of different opponents to get like a great idea of the best teams. Are you know relative to each other? And now we're just GONNA totally. Blow up any chance that we have to compare teams across conferences also don't know what Notre Dame is going to do. All of Vera like would they join a I mean? Frankly they should have joined the conference a long time ago. So this is on what they get But at the same time would they like provisionally joined the big ten or something for like one season only just to be able to play a conference schedule, and how you know love to be a fly. Fly on the wall for negotiations around that but yeah, I mean it just creates a logistical problems in in terms of deciding who makes the playoff? You WanNa talk about playoffs that have asterisks attached to that. This would be one in addition to you know cramming a season in a against all advice for medical experts or logic or reason or you know. The optics of having college players play while college. Students are not even on campus putting all that aside off of that we would have this like Weird Sham of a playoff in which we'd have no idea who the best teams are still just pick them anyway and have them play each other. Though honestly, that sounds like all the other playoffs too so. At least it's a little better under normal circumstances than it would be this year. It's tricky. It's tricky, because also you have some conferences you know like the big ten. They'll play conference games, and then some like AC in the SEC, the played and Also. What do you do with these? Non Conference. Annual matchups like for instance Notre Dame Clemson is supposed to Godin Notre Dame. Clemson also is supposed to as they always do play South Carolina, so it's GonNa. Come down to this weird choice. Like do we play South Carolina? Do we go to Notre Dame? and or or either like what if they don't do either because it's not you know non conference games are just off the table period. We'd lose all these rivalry games like Iowa state for you. Sarah Georgia or detect for me. You know there's a bunch at Jeff. Your biggest rival is in conference, so you'll still get. Michigan State Right. Which I you love. Michigan. Teams in the State of Michigan. Eastern Michigan. Again, maybe Michigan State if we have prime Y-, so you have that problem but I guess what you're GonNa make the SEC teams. Do is play another SEC game which they've always avoided. You don't sort of analyzing themselves by limiting their conference schedule because it's so hard, so that's interesting, but then he went. Back to the playoff. It would be ludicrous to not expand the playoffs this year of all years. I think their fear. Is that once you expand the playoff? There's there's no going back you can't do. Anyway? It's going to be amazing and exciting. Everyone's GonNa love it, and also by the way it will bring in more. We're talking about money and we're talking about these struggling programs. It will bring you your offer that up to the the highest bidder ESPN whoever wants to pay for people will pay for it. That's a lot more money, so. It's ludicrous that they would expand this year. Li Ye take these PAC twelve teams, you know the the job of the pack twelve to lose ANA conference in the beginning, and then have a good year in your conference and knock gets elected to the playoffs. That's the rule. That's just how it works. So all of a sudden Oregon doesn't have to play Ohio State and and USC doesn't have to play Alabama. They probably GONNA have great year. So guess what now. You'RE GONNA have to be. You can't automatically cross them out because they had those earlier losses and the decision, making is going to be impossible. Yeah, what if all of the power? Five conferences are won by undefeated teams, and then you have to and then prone like a UCF. Someone like that that also goes undefeated, and then all of a sudden. You're picking four from six undefeated teams I. Mean like how does that work? The whole thing is seems like it's. A threat the BOGIN. Are we really going to seriously have the? Beef O Brady's bowl. I mean that seems insane, but yeah, that's something I haven't thought about having heard anything about whether. Those are being canceled or not. I mean we need the beef. O, Brady's bowl? Homily Yeah. It's not. We can't have that then. We should just cancel the entire college football season. It would be wild to me if this is the year that we get the change. We wanted in college football that we get an expanded playoff. Make Notre Dame joined conference like. Wouldn't that be wild? That was the outcome of this going forward. Then they are the players, and it's just isn't even college football now. Where even our? We don't even know you anymore college football. And then we can end the discussion here for now. Let's take a quick break before we talk about soccer. We have more big news from the world of European soccer, and I am not talking about Tottenham Gritty win over Arsenal on Sunday in the north London Darby. Just kidding teams a trash the game. I was very happy to win, but it was not a fun viewing experience at all. The Court of Arbitration for sports on Monday overturned the decision by the Union of Football Associations or UEFA that had banned Manchester City from European competition play two years. It also cut the amount city was find from thirty million euros to ten million euros. This basically wiped out. The financial penalty panel levied against city for lying about where it's revenue came from, but it did penalize city for obstructing way investigation into its financial dealings. The, ruling has significant implications for city and for big football clubs across Europe and for the future of UEFA financial fair play roles. Ryan Hon of Rear FC had this to say about the future of financial fair play on the Stadio podcast on Monday walls financial fair play I. Think came from a good place. widdly! And it has done of good I think it has checked a certain amount of clubs and stops them from. Going completely wild on on expenditure. However as time's gone on, I mean it's been here for over a decade now. It's now cemented those people at the very top with the highest amount of revenues because Club's small revenues with FFA, they're never gonNA. Be Able to get to the point where they can properly contend over sustained period, because they generate the revenue I think what it has done. Is that it? Is Not the. Sandra, masterpiece is like another nail in the coffin. Now you have to kind of question. Why is there? Its initial goal has been fulfilled to a certain degree. However. When clubs do violate the rules. There is very little fallout so I know. We talked about the man city ruling back in March, but that was before. The pandemic doesn't really count so neil. Even remember what who even knows that Neil. Can you walk us through the financial? What financial fairplay and why? It was implemented in the first place? Yes sure so, these are rules that are basically intended to keep clubs from spending excessively on players. You know it's a little bit like what we're used to over here. In the states like salary caps revenue, sharing that type of thing but there's also unique twists to these particular rules for soccer, so the ideas that. Clubs can spend only the money that they earn in revenues, not the money that they're often ridiculously wealthy owners pour into the COBB's and so it means that in order to increase the amount of payroll that you take on as a team, you have to bring in more money in sponsorships, and they can't be sponsorships that are sort of connected to the owner, so for instance in this particular case, cities owner was accused of basically using this airline company that he also owns as Shell Company to funnel sponsorship money into the soccer. Soccer team, but in fact it was actually allegedly money that he himself. Just Kinda used at the the sponsoring company as a middleman for to divert his own money into the team, and then took on more payroll added better players and Yada, Yada Yada won a lot of matches so the the rules are intended to keep you from doing that. Basically as a check on how much influence these wealthy owners can can kind of exert and and try to win compared with teams that are owned by a more modest billionaires. Billionaires right exactly. It's like the difference between. Being one of the five richest people on earth and just being. A normal run of the mill billionaire. But you know that's the general idea of how it's supposed to kind of work in UEFA especially, since you with is comparing teams across not just one football, organization or country, but all of the major leagues in countries, and trying to find common way to keep them from. You know if you had one team in the EPL that just went hog wild spending money you know. Would it really be fair for? For them to then entered this competition across clubs from all over Europe and and then just run roughshod over them, so it's like their way of trying without maybe meddling in the affairs of each individual country and League of trying to keep things in some kind of competitive balance, but I think we argue a lot over how effective that actually is right right right, so jeff does the does this court ruling? Are they free and clear now. No, I mean well, yes. They are free and clear, and they're not exonerated. Silly, because if you look at it, it really comes down to a you know a statute of limitations problem. it the original. Violation stems from a two thousand fourteen thing where both Man City and Paris Saint German were already punished, and then it was at SORTA. Timed out which makes me think. Why did we? Even bother with all this. If we knew like I'm not a lawyer married to alert, but it would sense I would guess that you gotta stay in this coming. This counterargument went to appeal that it had timed out, so it makes me think that this whole charade. Might have been pointless. Yeah I saw someone say that the UEFA? They thought the the allegations were so strong that it would overcome that like time barred. Issue which seems like that's like the kind of thing that just makes something new right like. You can't really get over that so so it's really hard to know whether whether A. Court case like this would be successful in a different situation, but also has tried this repeatedly with different clubs, and not it has not worked. Do you think that other big clubs will just? Throw caution to the wind and spend all of their money. They're suddenly you know sponsored by. Some company with burying the team owners name. That's just funneling money directly into the team, and I mean why, not in this particular case, they even had smoking gun e mails that basically made it clear that they were doing this, but because of the statute of limitations thing I guess it just didn't matter, and it does show that you know in cases where you have to choose between you know the amount of time that's passed versus the severity of the evidence. It seems like they're gonNA. Choose the the quarter of you know. Sport is going to choose income down on the side of the amount of time. That's passed now. We should also say that you know. Know, money doesn't necessarily one hundred percent by championships in European soccer, and with the two teams that you talked about Sarah Tottenham and Arsenal you know didn't have the types of seasons that they envisioned for themselves despite massive payroll budget, so you know it's possible for for teams to kind of sneak up from the bottom ranks, or at least the mid tier, and make some noise, but again you know competitive balance I think is a lot worse in European soccer than it is, and any of the major pro sports that we talk about on the show from North America. so if anything, this might embolden them to try to take it to an even greater level, yeah! I feel like it's going to be harder for four teams to for teams that don't have that financial advantage. Because if you can, if you can spend enough money to get yourself into regular Champions League appearances, there is so much money in the league that it can really be a self perpetuating thing. You just have a head start on every other team and can by the players that will make you better whether you're. A team that's good at buying the right players is part of the problem for some of these rich clubs. Looking at you Tottenham, but like I mean that's that's if you can buy enough. Players can also afford to make mistakes about who you buy, and that's been a flaw. With financial fair play as it exists since it came into place, because it really is sort of saying well, here's some money that you're allowed to spend, and here's some money that you're not allowed to spend, but the money you're allowed to spend is kind of just comes from this cycle like you mentioned of. The best teams get more sponsorship money and do better and then get more sponsorship money, and it doesn't really address the core problem you got. You got those sponsorships because you want a lot and you're very visible, and you keep making the Champions League or winning your Domestic Cup and it just perpetuates itself forever. Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense that they're trying to stop owners. Particularly, let's be honest. Foreign owners Russian oligarchs, people from the Emirates American billionaires by the way, yeah. from coming in and buying titles going full Steinbrenner but When when you're trying and by the way if the steinbrenner years showed everything that that doesn't always work, and we've seen that in soccer, too. But if you're trying to get an owner to not use money or a group owners that they have. It's to me. It's a flawed system and I get that it helps the smaller clubs, but it seems like. Term. These teams will will find a way to use their resources. Well so should there be some sort of salary cap, or some kind of of that kind of a system in soccer, or should there. Should it be a free for all which is better, I mean think from a competitive balance standpoint it would be great to see some kind of salary, cap, or revenue, sharing or something like that, but again you have to work it out, not just at the league level, but also across all of the countries in leagues, and you start to get into some really complicated ways of balancing. Across all of them and I think also, the problem is in order to get that accepted. You would have to have buy in from the top teams that are the ones that benefit greatly from the current system and don't want to be forced to spend less, and so it seems like it'd be kind of a nonstarter for The most powerful clubs yeah I mean it the there was a period there. Were you know these top leagues and you know you could argue still exists just seemed way too top heavy, but at the same time the global economy with everything going on not doing great, so an influx of cash and the sport I mean you know. Maybe, maybe it'll be more embrace than it was in previous years all right, we should be encouraging the wealthiest the point one percent to be spending, so spend on soccer teams may as well right. No and that's a big thing about this. Is that I think the financial fair play rules as they currently exist are all are transparently about reducing players ability to make money more than about leveling the playing field between You know the top clubs you're bringing them back down toward the middle of the pack. Because what it saying is basically we don't want you just going crazy and spinning a bunch of money on transfers, and ultimately raising the salaries of these top players in creating bidding wars for these top players using your personal wealth that then will raise the the salary expectations for everyone. In in European soccer, and suddenly you know you have the top players make a lot of money and I. Know that you know. The top players are the Ronaldo's the message in all these guys. They make a bunch of money. They're the Mo- I think the highest paid athletes in the world as a general rule but at the same time they could be making more based on the revenues, especially based on the amount of money that these owners want to put into their teams. Teams and the financial fair play rules kind of make that more complicated as we've seen city, they necessarily stop it from happening. Yeah, I think that's a fair point that the other. The other teams that want like city not be to be able to spend as much as it wants. It's not because they're worried about the less wealthy teams. They're worried about having to pay more than they want to pay to the players up. Yeah, lots of things can be true at the same time. But it's also. Like, they should embrace the globalization of the sport I mean you know there's? Four, an ownership is not going anywhere, and if anything, it's going to increase in all these leaks you look at you know this chinese-ownership left and right in in the English league in all, not even just the top tier you know in the lower ranks to so maybe new owners. If you can't keep up with these teams well right, and maybe that's the way we're going to get more cinderella stories because they're suddenly an influx of cash from a new. New owner with lots of money to spend. What city itself was one of those teams long ago. You know they were not the powerhouse. That, they have been in recent years for a long time, and then they just sort of zoomed up and it happened to coincide with new ownership. It's funny how that works yeah. I. Don't know when I turned into the Gordon Gecko. Yeah. I like that good on you. Of course, there's one very real outcome of this of the court ruling. So now Manchester City has one itself a Champions League spot for next season, and any premier league club, hoping to sneak into the David's blake with the fifth spot in the table is now firmly out of luck, so lester the last great Cinderella Story EP l.. And might be the last Cinderella who knows is now in. Danger of not getting that Champions League spot they are. In fourth place tied with men you and who knows if they'll be able to pull it out so and we knew this would happen I mean. When we talk about this, the first time that there was a as as much as it looked like there was a smoking gun against city. We knew that the court of European sport or whatever the organization is called would have some very European. Bureaucratic sport person stuff to poll left the essentially up their sleeve the Fort Person. Yeah well, you know the type. They were blazers. You know it's a whole thing. But yeah, it stinks for for the teams that are on the cusp. You know especially. Wester bad for them, because it looks like now they're going to be the odd team out because of this, but on the flip side, and here comes Gordon again. Take! Meld. City is clearly the second best team in that league. By a significant distance so I. Thinks they're the bad are soccer. Power Index thinks they're better than Liverpool liberals just gotten kind of lucky this year. Which I think is actually true. The almost even Liverpool fans can admit that so yeah, if you want the best teams from the EP L. in league, it does seem right. That man said he would be there, but if you were I. I'm glad that Tottenham was so far down the table that I was like they're not gonNA. Champions. League is over. Maybe they can hold on for. Europa I duNno, now, not even apparently, there's still a non zero chance to our model whereas. If. You're a Lester Fan, a you. You're still riding on fumes of the championship so I don't feel that bad for you. i. in fact you can arguments the the best team to happen to. Be You, as we said we talked about it, you had to know that this was a very likely scenario. And then it's really insurer. A spot in the Champions League you had to be in that that top four, not fifth-place. And they still have a chance, but it is much more precarious than it was a couple of months ago. All right, we can leave this here for now. We'll be back in a moment with our rabbit hole of the week. At Five thirty eight, we often find ourselves falling down various rabbit holes of data some lead to stories some. Don't we end each week? Show with one of these descents? The hot take down of the week. Take it away, Neil. Yes, so on Monday. Related to something that we talked about a link last week, Washington's NFL team officially announced that it would be retiring. It's nickname and logo there saving read Dan. Snyder and coach Ron Rivera working closely to develop a new name and design approach that will enhance the standing of our proud tradition, rich franchise, and inspire our sponsors, fans and community for the next hundred years like have this image now of. MIRA, interest those two with Photoshop Yeah. Consulted. It's the two of them in a room going. About wildcat, Ron Rivera is a graphic designer at heart. So this makes sense. Graphic design is his passion. Little known fact, so you know we said last week. This has been a long time coming. I think we'll probably have plenty to react to. When the new name and branding does get unveiled of right now, I wanNA. Talk about the club that Washington just joined which is teams that made nickname changes so since nineteen one, there have been thirty one nickname changes for MLB teams for any reason, the most recent came in two thousand eight. The devil rays became just the raise but they're pretty rare nine have taken place since World War Two. Of those four were of the Tampa Bay rays type variety, which was a team changing his name without changing cities Washington will be in that club. Those four were Tampa Bay in two thousand and eight devil rays, nineteen, sixty five Houston Colt. Forty five's became the Houston Astros, and then there are two that you guys might not think we'll count. We'll see in nineteen. Fifty Four. The Cincinnati Reds became the Cincinnati red legs, and then in nineteen sixty after six years they decided. Let's drop the legs. We'll go back to being read. That's why did he do that? Why did they I? Don't know I did not de Delve that deep into the rabbit hole, but they went from reds six years they were the red legs, and then they went back to the reds officially, speaking terrible, whether not that counts the other five were all due to relocating so the Montreal Expos Washington became the nationals in two thousand five Washington senators became the Texas Rangers Nineteen, Seventy two. The Seattle pilots became the Milwaukee brewers in one, thousand, nine hundred. Hundred seventy, the another version of the Washington senators became the Minnesota twins in Nineteen, sixty, one Sarah's twin, and then of course, the St Louis Browns moved to Baltimore and became the Orioles in nineteen, fifty four now in the era before that, though there were a ton of nickname changes twenty, two of them, and only three were because of a franchise changing cities. We think about these happening more often because you change. The Team Expos the national style, but actually that was pretty rare in the pre. World War Two or kind of leading up to World War Two era. So, there were five by the braves alone. They were the bean eaters. Then there were the doves, then they were the Rustler's. Then there were the braves, then they were the bees the Boston bees, and then five years later they went back to being the braves, and then you know move to Milwaukee now Atlanta. They're under fire by the way right now. and may eventually have to change to something new. and so the cubs they were the Chicago orphans and no. Team we now know as the New York. Yankees were known as the Baltimore Orioles before nineteen three now. I should say full disclosure. There's debate over whether this counts as the same franchise. In the Yankees have decided, it's far too Gauche to be associated with the orioles in a previous life, and so they actually officially leave that chapter out of history and ask baseball reference to change it at one point or another, so that the nineteen three Baltimore Orioles, but it you know it was. I think the ownership was transferred to the same person and a lot of the players transferred to the same team that made up the Yankees at that point. Or The highlanders I guess is they were before the became the Yankees The phillies were actually known as the Blue Jays as in what Toronto is called right now in nineteen, forty, three and nineteen, forty four. That's a fun little departure as well so basically my takeaway for baseball was they played really fast and loose with team nicknames in the first. Half, of, the twentieth century, before you know kind of stabilizing into what we think of now in in the post war period. Let's move on to the NFL so. So the NFL and the various Pro Leagues that merged into it over the years have had thirty three total nickname changes going back to nineteen twenty one only one of which is technically comes since nineteen sixty three. That was when the Tennessee oilers became the Tennessee Titans in one, thousand, nine, thousand nine. I say technically because the Cleveland browns moved to Baltimore and became the Ravens in nineteen, ninety six, but the NFL ret conned the franchise continuity when the browns came back in nineteen, ninety nine, and so now the. The Ravens are considered an expansion team that started in one, thousand, nine, hundred, six, that just happened to have all of the former browns players on its roster, just by chance randomly and the browns. They're just took a little hiatus between one, thousand, nine, hundred and one thousand nine, so it's not technically team name change because the Ravens are considered to be a new team that came into existence in ninety six a couple, the early AFL teams changed their names and nineteen sixty three. The Dallas Texans became the Kansas City. City chiefs and the Titans of New York Jeff's titans of New York became. That's new. York jets that very same year, and there's also nine cases contained in that thirty three number that pertained to one of my favorite phenomena, which were teams that merged during World War Two, the steelers merged with the eagles to become the ST goals in nineteen, forty, three, the steelers and the Chicago cardinals became Pitt, Card Hyphen pit, or after they went oh, and ten that season sports writers took to calling him the carpets. They rolled out the red carpet for other teams to to have victory that was in nineteen, forty four Boston Yanks in the Brooklyn. Tigers merged in just became the yanks capital, the capital Yanks not. In nineteen, forty five, and before World War Two. There are a lot of fun name changes involving teams that still exist to this day. The steelers were the Pittsburgh pirates until nineteen forty the Detroit lions were the Portsmouth Ohio. spartans until nineteen thirty four and back when the Redskins were in Boston before they went to Washington. They change to that from Boston braves just like the baseball team in. In nineteen, thirty three, there's Chicago bears were known as the Chicago Staley's which are named after player-coach e Staley until nineteen, twenty two, and just the last note on the NFL of those thirty three teams twenty one came without the team, changing city so Washington will become the twenty second team to change its name without actually relocating to a new city. Oh my God! I just had a terrible. What if what if dance later? Goes the route of eighty staley and renames the team. Snyder's. Great Yeah I think that would be in keeping with with his reputation. We would have a problem with that. Okay? Looking forward to that announcement all right, sorry. No No, this is good content so in the NBA going back to nineteen fifty one. That was when my data started I believe there. That's missing a couple of seasons from the very beginning technically of the NBA, but anyway they're in two thousand fourteen name changes including the Aba the most recent and most mind boggling one came in two, thousand, fourteen and fifteen when the New Orleans Hornets became the New Orleans Pelicans and the Charlotte. bobcats became the Charlotte. Hornets which itself was. Was a name of a former team that existed from nineteen, Eighty, eight, two, thousand, two. This is now a little bit of Cleveland Browns Baltimore Ravens Situation, so it's unclear as to whether fully counts toward this right now. They set it up so that all Charlotte teams are part of the same franchise continuity and all New Orleans teams including the two seasons that the Hornets played in Oklahoma City because of Hurricane Katrina are also part of the same continuity. Are you guys following? Every time we do anything on NBA like recent history. We screw up something about the Hornets Thirty Teams Yeah we're off guides, Pelicans and other horny. Very, ripe for confusion so before that all went down the previous name change was when the Washington bullets became the Washington Wizards going into the nineteen ninety eight season, because the name bullets made owner, a Poland, uncomfortable, given the high number of murders and shootings in DC in the early nineteen nineties, though this was not the first name change for that franchise, though the bullets were previously known as the Chicago packers, and the Chicago Zephyr CZ until nineteen, sixty four, in which they move to Washington, and became the not great ultimately became the bullets. Yes, the Zappers they should bring that back I mean there's so much potentially are with Z.. You don't have a lot of starting with Z. Z is great letter. Yes, we should do more with the Chicago Ziegler's. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety nine, the buffalo braves moved to San Diego and became the San Diego Clippers that then moved to La, and are now my amended pick to win the twenty twenty. For. The Philadelphia Seventy sixers were the syracuse nationals until nineteen sixty four, but my favorite are all of these teams from the Aba, the American Basketball Association, which did a lot of wild things in the sixties and seventies, the red white and Blue Ball the three point line, but they also really fun. When it came to name changes, my favorite is the Memphis team so it went from being the New Orleans buccaneers to the Memphis pros to the Memphis towns. Now. What's Tam? You might wonder well. That is an acronym. Acronym for Tennessee. Arkansas and Mississippi am and their logo was a Tama shandor style had now that was in the colors, the Oakland A.'s so green and yellow and white, then became the memphis sounds they were part owned by Isaac. Hayes fun back, and it was a musical reference to the soul music, coming out of the city in the sixties and seventies you also had the Oakland Oaks, which became the Washington, capitals would became the Virginia squires. The Denver rockets became the Denver Nuggets which exist now. New Jersey. Americans became the York Nets, which then later became the New Jersey Nets, which are now the Brooklyn Nets. The Pittsburgh. Pipers became the Pittsburgh. condors The Dallas. chaparrals became the San Antonio Spurs the San Diego conquistadors speaking of problematic games. became the San Diego sails and the Houston Mavericks moved to Carolina became the Carolina cougars, and then moved to become the spirits of Saint Louis, which is a great thirty for thirty about how they negotiated and at the merger of the Aba in the NBA, they were able to get a permanent cut of all NBA TV revenue in perpetuity, in exchange for not existing anymore, and that was the lineage of the Saint. Louis the spirits of St Louis so of those twenty four name changes only nine. Nine were of the Washington. Variety without an accompanying franchise relocation so basketball you know when when they change their names. It's because they've changed to a new city most of the of the time whereas in baseball and especially football, it's more just things happen new owner, or you've had a racist team name for a long time now, but sometimes not, but I think basketball I think. Basketball being notable for the teams that moved and didn't change their names, and their names make no sense like the Lakers. There's UTAH. Are they talking about stover? And also there are no grizzly bears anywhere near Memphis. Anywhere near. Legal. That's a fault you can take with these ones that like we've been talking about teams that changed names, but the arguably yeah, the ones that didn't change. Changed names to to just make any sense geographically. Or for their new locale, so those are just you know there's a long history long lineage of teams changing their names that Washington will now join. Not all of them were done back. Most of them were not done to avoid you know long-held problematic names, but mainly because of other very weird and assorted reasons but this will join that, so it's. It's not that odd for all the people saying like Oh. We've been known as this team name for a long time, and you know this and the other. Teams changed their names all the time in sports. Yeah, it doesn't need to be that big of a deal. And in fact, maybe we should take time to change problematic names, but just dumb named to I had also forgotten before we talked about this last week. That Stanford University of Stanford had been the Indians until as recently as nineteen seventy two. That is not that long ago and does anyone ever think about that now? There's so like so well known as the Cardinal. So! This doesn't need to be that big of a deal for organizations making better choices. In Syracuse did the same thing they used to have a stereotypical native American character, and then they changed the orange, and now they have auto, the orange, which is one of the most beloved mascots, and I would argue the Stanford tree in its ramshackle, Bizarre self-designed. is also one of the most beloved and iconic mascot, so you can get something better on the other side if you make a change like that, yeah, absolutely. ill didn't do college, but there are some great ones in college according to Wikipedia, not a primary source. Go with it anyway. It is operatives. Have you heard my rabbit holes? The Nebraska. Cornhuskers I'm just GONNA point them out. which is, it's a solemn name. You know my criteria. I like unique names that that aren't found elsewhere but they're used to formerly known as the antelopes. The bug eaters The old Gold Knights, the rattlesnake boys and the tree planters. Rattlesnake boys is amazing. Rattlesnake tree planters I mean bug eaters. Bug eaters is something they still like hold onto to. There's like still for raisin. Good reason, also fun fact, they are never known as the cornhuskers. They're always husker's to husker fans, so you can always tell if someone knows Nebraska. Football wealth if they say cornhuskers. Okay well I'm sorry I little midwestern facts for you. But they are. That's fine, but they are technically the corner. Shirt! And the bug eaters. Always bugging servers, and and but but now I'm only going to refer to them as the rattlesnake boys. Old Gold Knights. Yeah. All right well. That was a very fun. Rabbit Hole. I love thinking about all these weird old team names There's so many good names in history that the Washington football team could choose from so we'll see hopefully maybe by next week. We'll know what their new name is. I said go with Tam's. The Tam's yeah absolutely. Attributed Tennessee Arkansas Mississippi, which border Washington DC. I still like the filibuster. Now, they won't do that. Any of filibuster. Pretty Fun I. Think they'll go. I actually think they'll go with the red tails just because I know from going to Washington Games that. They are obsessed with that fight song. the hail to the so they can keep that those lyrics intact, and I really do think that is important part of their tradition, so the they'll go with that hails the busters I think it's good to to name your team around fight song. I like that a lot actually. All rights that will do it for this week's show. Thank you so much for joining us. We will be back in your feed next to save if you like what you heard. Please describe if you are subscribed. Please rate and review US wherever you listen to podcasts, it. Other people discover the show and I. Promise I will read Your Review. You can also email us at podcast at five thirty eight dot com to let us know what you think. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Sean Salisbury (02-27-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 3 - Sean Salisbury (02-27-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week long. Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in his Hoppy skates. Pete practiced and practiced until one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good. So he threw his gates in the trash, but then he heard how gyco proud partner of the NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out broadcasting from the Mercedes man cave. This is Dan Patrick final hour on this Wednesday, Dan in the danettes, Dan Patrick show. We've covered a lot of ground. I think the dodgers might be swooping in signed Bryce Harper by the end of the week. Check in with Sean Salisbury. Great football analyst. He's a talk show host in Houston. Sean will join us coming up. We'll talk about the combine and Cuyler Murray. Do you throw the Iran? Do you do neither you just go there to do interviews? Virginia Tech beat Duke last night without Zion Williamson third consecutive year that Virginia Tech has beaten a top five Duke team the last division one team to beat a specific opponent three consecutive years. When that opponent was in the top five Maryland did that against North Carolina two thousand six seven and eight but Virginia Tech picking up the win. Not sure when Zion comes back. I'm wondering if maybe you don't bring him back until that North Carolina game the regular season finale poll question. Mclovin updated give the audience what it is. Okay. Who gonna talk about most over the next six weeks choices being Zion? Lebron James Carla Murray or Tiger Woods. Now. The brand is number one. But surprised number two coming up behind him. Kyla murray? Maybe combine combine is big. And it's quarterbacks draft NFL. Yes. I I can see that happening. But it feels like especially today Keiler is people are buzzing about I heard there's a Vegas over under on the site. I don't know if that's true. There's a prop bed from Vegas. I I saw that on Twitter. I can't confirm. That's true. But it's just such a big number as a five nine or five ten. I don't care. I'm assuming it's under five ten. Oh, yeah. We gotta do this on the record vinyl segment of the show. Everyone pixie exact measurement for Kyle Murray. Closest to the whole because I think it's nine thirty AM tomorrow. Mclovin. I sit yet nine thirty tomorrow. His group is supposed to go began begin getting there's a lot of measurements coming out. Now. Newsflash NFL players are huge. There's like that decay. Oh my God calf. He's ridiculous and he's a wide receiver. Yeah. Ole miss wide receiver the all the tackles. Do you know I was just like. Tackles, we take it for granted at everybody's three hundred fifty pounds member in the hogs for the Washington Redskins where huge at three hundred pounds. There's like forty five tackles who were six six three seventy or whatever the big number. That's a little heavy. Yeah. Yeah. That is. I think that's hyperbole. There are you? Are you feeling the combine this year? Is it all getting no silly? Well, I just think we look at these measurements. John Ross ran one of the fastest forty yard times in history. The Bengals are trying to trade him. He ran a four to forty. And I don't know if he could play football, but he can run really fast you get caught up in measurable 's. And you can talk yourself in or talk yourself out of a prospect here. And I do believe teams are trying to talk their way out of Cuyler Murray. You know, he's too short is hands are too small. And I haven't heard anybody say, you know, what the position is changed you protect your quarterback. And you put him in an offense that is catering to his strengths. He can be successful. He can be dynamic Joel Klatt who I've great respect for college football. Analysts says collar Murray's better thrower than Michael Vick. Now, I agree with that Michael Vick had one of the strongest arms I ever saw. But accuracy was Bill. Sometimes it was there. Sometimes it wasn't. It was optional. But he ran a lot more in in college. Now Vick was you know, we had not seen that before. But Cuyler Murray may go down as the greatest runner in NFL history, if he has a sustainable career if you said he plays if you tell me right now Tyler Murray plays eight years. He might go down as the greatest running quarterback of all time. Now, I'm not talking about touchdowns because Cam Newton how many rushing touchdowns Cam got close to sixty rushing touchdowns. I believe polling. Yeah. Cam Newton is almost at five thousand yards. He's got sixty eight rushing touchdown. He's on pace to be top ten all time in rushing touchdowns. For anybody running back. That's what's amazing. But there is a lot of chatter that Carolina may draft a quarterback here you start to think about this to the chargers. Take one. Patriots take one like somebody somebody might fall to one of these teams because they may surprise you that they're taking a quarterback with their first round pick. Yes, mclovin. I heard one the other day do the ravens look at a quarterback because Lamar was so bad against the chargers in the first half of the playoff game. Oh, you can't do that. You can't right. Well, don't you have RG three as your backup? Adair's? There's a lot of speculation. They might go for tyrod Taylor veteran in addition to banning tobacco up just bizarre. G three barely barely got in this week Wednesday night hockey, it's a double double header. It's seven thirty eastern on NBC S in it'll be the lightning taking on the Rangers in New York. Then Patrick Kane leads the Blackhawks against the ducks mentioned this the first two hours on mention it again, we will give you more details on where we will be headed our partnership with the NBC sports network will end at the end of the month, and we're going to be under the Turner sports umbrella and also being a part of Bleacher report be our live which were very excited. Think it's a great site fact talking to the Turner people two years ago, I said I'd like to be involved in Bleacher report, even as a consultant I saw the growth there, the possibilities there. And we're excited about being involved with Turner sports and Bleacher report. But we'll give you more details on that. And of course, how you can find the show side from direct TV the audience network channel two thirty nine and our great radio Phillies around the country and Sirius satellite radio a couple of tweets this morning, then I'm gonna talk about this Tom Brady rookie card that sold for four hundred thousand dollars. Here's a tweet. It's amazing. How the NFL can be hypocrites really a player can't work over a peaceful protests. But in turn they don't know what to do with an owner, Robert Kraft Kraft is in fact, a video than the NFL needs to make a decision. They're gonna make a decision. But as I said to you yesterday, somebody who knows Robert Kraft said that his advice to Robert Kraft will be you need to step in need to step down. If you do that in it's a preemptive strike, it's a little cleaner. You can move back. But, you know, want that great elixir that that magic dust when you become a star a celebrity you go to parties. Everybody loves you, you hang out with me mill, you know, the president's you go to Oscar parties got your private plane. Many got it all. There are a lot of billionaires. But you want to be a relevant billionaire is only a handful of billionaires out there that own NFL teams or an NBA team. But you want to be one of those guys. Because then it's different there. A lot of guys who have a lot of money, but they don't own the New England Patriots EPO. I I can't see this. I think I'd bet a week's pay that that does not happen. I e studt me doesn't step down. No. I think I would bet a week's pay. Well, this is this is somebody who knows and he was going to recommend advising him. You're not saying he's considering it. But I think he'd loved rarely do billionaires apologize for anything. And especially when they're on the back nine if you know what I mean is is different though. This is embarrassment. Yeah. Well, but I think he really enjoys being on the podium on Super Bowl Sunday. I think that's the highlight of his year. And you take you even even though he can hand the control to his son and still run everything. Just you know, he's not technically the owner. He wants to be on the podium with that thing and his hand when you're giving him the trophy. He loves that an economic replaced by any business deal any yacht Leno Gifford's, he I agree from ego standpoint. And also, you don't want that to be the last chapter of your patriots story from a legacy the last thing of your whole patriot resume if you will. Be what happened doesn't matter if they win a couple more Super Bowls. It doesn't matter with his image. Nobody's looking at Robert Kraft going. Hey, you won those Super Bowls. It'll be Bella. Check in Brady that can't be the last thing of as far as your relationship with the team that you own name, and then you gave it over to your son. And the last thing that we remember happening was that? But you're still going to remember that the last thing you would remember that his team accomplished is winning the Super Bowl. The last thing that you're going to remember about him is what happened in this prostitution sting. How do you show up one day with a blue Bentley? And then less than twenty four hours later in a white Bentley that'll show because the police had pulled him over just to ide- him. And then you go I can't bring out the blue Bentley. I'll bring up the white one. No. That wouldn't stand out in a strip ball at a spa. No. They'll never think that I'm the same guy who came back. Lee Buick skylark. Yeah. Something like that. Yes. You don't have anything in the in the garage. That's a little less like a miata or something something there's a scene in the dark night. When Bruce Wayne he's like, I'm just gonna go out. I'm gonna take something casual or whatever. And it's a Lambert. Like, Mr. craft doesn't have like an eighty five zero in there. Like, you know, what I'm gonna really dumb it down a little bit noth me 'cause wouldn't that fit? A you have somebody driving you in your Bentley and you pull up like big baller here. And in a you get out I in your shoulder. Got it got a Super Bowl rings on knowing. Well, I'm I'm sore. Me much time. Good luck. Mr crap. Now, I'm Steve Oklahoma owner. Call me, Bobby. Yeah. Yeah. Not pulling up to some fancy hotel spa. Some kind of outrageous looking building all the heavy hitters come here to get their massage. Yeah. You can't sort of ease into the spa if you pull up in a Bentley. And I'm guessing you probably if you were going to the AFC title game, you've probably had your shirt with French cuffs cufflinks. I I don't know if you. Now, that's where you walk by. And you act like you're not going you weren't going in there like you might have been going to Godfather's pizza. But then you go, dude. You don't see Warren Buffett's check cashing facility and a strip mall had in his wallet. This reminds me of the move when they had real video stores with the adult section had like the movies right near there. Mr mom. There were like curtains or they'd have those beads where where you, you know, the the big strands of beads as you would go through. And then they could hear you going through. Yeah. There's a sec segment of this audience going wait there were video stores there, isn't there? One blockbuster video store in its in Alaska. Yes, yes. There's one left. That guy's hold that. I love that. I loved going to the video store. Can you imagine flying your little plane 'cause you had an Alaska they use like opt to prop plane kitty Kityo Vagit going all the way to the Fairbanks blockbuster getting your tape. Fly by ach. Video don't forget to rewind. I remember getting fined for be kind rewind, and I didn't rewind my video with actual very bad. John Jack, black movie be kind rewind actually made a movie about it's terrible. Yes. When I was about twelve my friends, and I on my mom's account at the local video store rented Caddyshack without her knowledge. And then we just kept it for about. Oh, two years, and she tried to told her starter turn it. They were going to charge her two dollars a day, but she just had to pay. But she ended up I shall she always reminds me, you know, I once paid seventy nine ninety five to buy Caddyshack for you. When you're thirteen. You still owe me couple of tweets look back at Cuyler Murray's Heisman speech, you could see his dad's role. Then he looked unimpressed that his son even one. And I remember that somebody else tweeted, I saw Dan's outfit today and thought I hope to someday have a position where I'm in charge, and I can dress like that. Hashtag baller. Yeah. Yeah. Seton always go whenever I wear sweatpants. He always goes did you give up on life? Let you give up today. Oh, I have these are brand new. It's a warm opin. I didn't realize it was Saturday. Oh, this is where I when I come to work. I come to work. And yet warming up for I I'm here to play golf shoot hoops host a national radio shell don't you have some puttering around the yard to do later. This isn't I could be walking around Brooklyn. And I'd be ending in with some people. Yeah. Mclovin date give Josh do mail. A hard time showed up that one time, and it knows TV. Okay. Josh do mill comes in in sweatpants. And he comes into a huge TV studio in it says direct TV studios, and he yeah. And there's big lights and he comes into our Los Angeles studio. And he goes, I didn't know this show was on TV. I go, oh my so disappointing. What gave it away? Josh the cameras the lights because he said he would have dressed differently. If he knew it was on TV. Oh, it's a good thing. He's good. Looking man. Couple of phone calls here. Let's see will in Palm Springs. Hi will. How are you? Hey, how you doing today? Goodwill, six to one eight. Bush as far as the Robert Kraft situation going he seems he's going to be one of the view owners have actually going into the hall of fame. Yeah. Do you think of all the stuff that's going on? You think this is actually gonna affect the decision of going in? Or they said delay. What is your input on that be careful when you turning? Thank you will. I like that. Yeah. Just turn signal, but I'm not gonna make short left turn here with my comment because you're not supposed to factor in off the field. With with these candidates for the whole fame. I don't know if it's different with owners since they're not actually on the field. But what else do you factor in? How your team performed? How many owners are in the pro football hall of fame? Because I just thought of that. But I thought the pro football hall of fame doesn't take into consideration things that happen off the they don't, but I'm wondering. Robert Kraft set up this system, the blueprint with Bela check and Brady or I. Your teams have won. And you've been an owner Jerry Jones goes in. But Jerry Jones did a whole lot for the growth expansion of lake. Robert Kraft has done a lot of that. And his teams have won more Super Bowls than anybody. Yes. Mclovin. I have some owners, Bert bell. Who was if former eagles owner Commissioner, okay, Charles Bidwell who owned the Chicago cardinals out Davis Eddy DeBartolo junior. Remember, he got Betty gets in. Yeah. I mean, I haven't heard anything that, you know, somebody saying that Robert Kraft won't get inner shouldn't get into the hall of fame. Just a couple more Halis Lamar hunt and Jerry Jones and Jerry Jones is in. So. Jerry Jones, and Robert Kraft are pretty much hand in hand with the expansion the growth of this league financially, but sorry, the the Rooney's Ralph Wilson junior also amongst that group of the bills owner Ralph Ralph Ellison on your he was a big he was well loved right except where he was thinking to taking the team to Toronto. They may have had a problem with that. All right. We'll take a break here when we come back. Tom Brady's rookie card set records by selling for four hundred thousand dollars. I wonder how much money I gave away when I was younger with my baseball. I didn't have football cards, not many. But I had a lot of baseball cards. We'll talk about this Brady rookie card in why it went for four hundred thousand dollars. Also, we'll check in with the great football analyst, Sean Salisbury will join us and that's coming up next nineteen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. It happens to the best of us right before a big deadline or just when you're printing handouts for key presentation to printer runs out of ink tired of the frequent expense and hassle replacing in cartridges with internal Inc. Storage tank? Larger in cartridges and an intelligent page gouge that displays Inc levels, brother Inc. Vestment tank printers can literally change the way you Inc. Brother inc. 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Free agent cornerback Adam pacman Jones, you know, he's in trouble when they say pacman he was waived by the Broncos in November arrested on charges of public intoxication disorderly conduct and intimidation earlier this morning at a casino in Indiana. According to multiple reports. Like seven games for the Broncos been around for fourteen seasons in the NFL. So pacman Jones, you know, if it's Adam Jones, then he didn't do anything wrong. If he signs a new contract joint. It's Adam Jones joining the Broncos fees in trouble. It's pacman Jones arrested. Yeah, fritzy, he said, it was actually inky Biki blinky, and CLYDE that were the ones that we're doing it. And he was just an innocent bystander. Those are the goes from pacman. Yes. Yes. I think those are the ghosts from pacman. Yeah. Pacman? We don't have that noise where pacman dies. Hey, you sound like a fellow who may have played some pacman in his day. I I went to a bar when I was in college. And I would just go in there. And I'd get a pitcher of beer, and I'd sit there by myself playing back men, I guess is you left by yourself as well pretty much. Hi score though. So yeah. Winter. Did you go Dan since you have three letters or did you do your initial? I went DA n n n. Yeah. Just in case put up some numbers. I hashtag. Yeah. Tim's bar in. What was the beer at? What was what was it? I don't know. I think it was just called crappy. You got crappy on tap. Yes. We do. All right. I'll take a pitcher crappy beer, go to auto dot com. All the parts your car will ever need rock Tecom. Not too many girls come up to you. When you're playing pacman with a pitcher. You're by yourself pitcher beer, you know, what though if she does. She's awesome. If she came up, and she goes, I'd like to be your MRs pacman bang. Yeah. Bogging. Yeah. I love you to rock auto dot com. A family business. 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Two thousand playoff contenders championship ticket Tom Brady autograph card and on EBay. It went for four hundred thousand dollars a record for a football card sold at auction. The card was rated a nine out of a possible ten by Beckett. Grading Services Limited to a production run of one hundred it was number forty one on that limited run, according to Beckett. It's the latest in a growing trend in high priced auctions for Tom Brady's cards last month. The company reported a similar card with the grading eight of ten sold for sixty thousand dollars last year. A different two thousand playoff contenders championship ticket Tom Brady card went for two hundred fifty thousand dollars. The previous highest selling modern day sports card auctioned off was LeBron James one of one rookie card went for three hundred twelve thousand dollars. I have a bunch of cards. I have baseball football hockey cards that I collected when I was ESPN. And I'm not even sure which is the one that I would want back because I don't even know which ones that I have are valuable, but I would get all these, you know, trading cards, the companies would send it to me when I was working at ESPN. So I just kept all of these boxes. Lot of them not even open. But I don't know if I have a treasure in there. I don't know if there's you know, there's something that's worthwhile. How many you guys had the mom threw him out situation? Well, my mom did. But she kept telling me if you don't come back and pick them up, then I'm gonna throw them out. And then she threw him out. The only thing she kept were the basketball programs from the Cincinnati royals back in the early seventies. So I still have my Pete muravich autograph. The Lakers came to town. I have all their autographs of the Washington they were the Baltimore bullets. So I have Jerry Jerry West penmanship as you would expect was beautiful like penmanship back then in the seventies. Like you had to have good penmanship. Now, you can't read anybody's writing. But I just remember Jerry West had great penmanship. Johnny bench had great penmanship. Now, you just sort of scribble. But that's what stood out remember with these these programs. I got. Yeah. Mclovin. I did a stupid thing with cards when I was young. I wanted Phillies eagles flyers cards so bad. So I trade like Ken Griffey von Hagens. Anybody else go for the local team? I did. But then there were guys that you would get and it felt like they were punking you when you'd open up these cards, new you kidding me. I get I get these same guys over and over and over and over because they I am fritzy. Now, we're talking about this was it Rog really, oh more et macho the pronunciation, but I remember getting it's kind of like RO G E L I O last name MO are not a Red Sox. Yeah. I think left-hander a crafty left hander. But you'd get these cards, and you go why am I getting these crappy cards here constantly pack in Todd. Nikolov in this body. I trade it a Mike Schmidt straight up. I think in third grade for our White Sox, Chet lemon. And the guy even told me goes, you sure, you want to do this like the third grade friend of mine even said like, you sure, you know, what you're doing here because it was Mike Schmidt peak? Mike Schmidt and Chet lemon's note. Nothing to sneeze at. But does it can be easy to get. I'm just hearing from some people at the university of Dayton saying thank you for mentioning Tim's the bar that I went to to play pacman. So the. Yeah. Some of the guys who were there. Some of the other losers there with me at the bar. I got it. Still open at Tim's. I lived right around the corner. I lived about a pitching wedge away from Alana's great sandwiches. And then I had Tim's. And I'd go in there and get draft beer and play pacman by myself. Sad existence. What a loser. Hey was with long hair acne, and I'm playing pacman and drink and beer by myself, speaking of which Sean Salisbury joining us, the former NFL quarterback hosted the Sean berry show. Losers. You're a big man on campus at USC, right? Yeah. I didn't have any acne. But I did have long hair poll. Yeah. You were even if you weren't a starter USC you were joining. No, no, no. That was reserved for my NFL backup starter. Starter a US? Even if even if your backup wasn't, you know, you're just your quarterback at USC you walk into walked on sorority fraternity row. I play quarterback USA. It doesn't matter. If you're I rape you. It's a it's a very popular position on campus. Did you ever wear your jersey on campus? Only. Only. No, I never wore by jersey guy, tucked his jersey into his hygienes chest. And we're the number comes down to DC half the number because guy, tucked his jersey so much at here. You guys are talking about Chester lemon, and Roger Murrah cagey left-hander crafty. Beggaring this up about you know, on campus. Jon Gruden went to Dayton and John would wear his football letter jacket around on campus with a football in his hands. All the time. He didn't play. But he was he's he gave you the impression that Hama football player. And I got my letter jacket on is it like the guy who gets a championship ring, but never played. But he he he's at the Barneys tapping. Somebody next to him sees that he has a ring on type of thing cheesy move by Gruden but it's worked look at him. Now, man, I need I need to try that didn't work for me down. I need to try the jersey in lettermans jacket thing. I love your your analysis because you're you're very astute at looking at quarterbacks and I love your opinions. And I it comes down to this with the quarterbacking position. Now in how we draft or what he what do we look for in a quarterback as opposed to you know, ten years ago Cuyler Murray is probably made into a wide receiver or a kick returner. But you know, he's sort of. We're not sure what to do. We can't place him in a position where everybody goes. Okay. That's exactly what he is. I what do you what do, you know about Cuyler Murray that says he will be successful in the NFL changed? My narrative on him probably more than I've trained on any quarterback in such a short period time, maybe the last three or four months I fell into that trap. And I don't want to first of all the size thing. We've got to get rid. Of that. More quarterbacks under six foot. Fran tarkenton Russ. You know, Russell Wilson drew Brees this kid who have been more successful than guys like over six feet six. So this heightened incised, and we've got to get rid of that we've got to start treating quarterbacks and and athletes a little different in my mind. I went back and watch three or four four his games after the season was over just to watch him when he was doing some good things and some bad things. And I know Dan, you've been talking a lot about him. If I was on a cardinals. I would consider I would answer every phone call for Josh Rosen. I think as we speak today. He's a better playmaker than Rosen is now that doesn't mean Rosen can't be a good player. I think he can with the right situation. But with cliff and with Cuyler if he gets out of the top ten it's it's criminal that somebody didn't take him to the top ten. He's act accurate. He has plenty of arm. I've never seen a guy. Stop and start quick. Or maybe since Barry Sanders and especially at the quarterback position. He gets skinny and small to everybody talks about getting a handle the punishment. There's a bunch of six five guys. There's a lot of room to hit like me, you could there's a lot of room to it could move. This guy is like a running back get skinny in the whole he doesn't give you a lot to hit. I've changed Dan. I went back and watch I was under the fourth or fifth round guys. A baseball guy. Great athlete, and I love multi sport athletes. I'm telling you right now this guy, I believe he's going to be a star in the league. I believe he's one of those guys at once. He gets the job. You don't get it back. He wins. And Dan every time you watch them on film. I can go around the league right now, the NFL or college and find your quarterbacks that are never the best player on the field ever. I can go watch this, dude. And he's always always the best player on the field any wins. And there's something to be said for that. I will be shocked if he's fallen out of the top ten and I will not be shocked if he's picked first or in the top five, I wouldn't our top six. I'd made the point that if you're Zona, and you're gonna already change the paradigm. They're you bring in cliff Kingsbury. All right. You're looking for something unique. You're making a big change with a guy who had a losing record in college. Great offensive mind and is on record as saying take Tyler Murray. If I had that opportunity to take him number one overall if I could send Josh Rosen to the patriots, let's say and I could bring in Cuyler Murray. Let's say I get the patriots late first round pick for Josh Rosen. It seems like a win win for both sides here. Matter of fact, phone call should last thirty seconds, Dan, rose and goes and gets to learn behind Brady and gets to be with Josh mcdaniels. And it's perfect for him with. They do remember the the the narrative on Rosa when he came out as the most NFL ready, and quite frankly of all the guys drafted in the first round, he progressed the least so that would be great for him. And then you're cliff. This is what you do the kid knows the verbiage. He's an explosive talent if you're gonna go go all in Waco, seventy two percent in and then two years later say well, men, maybe we should have what's like any other position. And if we fail on a defensive end and enter the quarterback position sets franchises back. But this kid the only thing that's not too. Like if he was six foot one he'd be the first pick of the draft. And they do everything they could to maneuver to people to trade up to get him simple to two or three three our guys that play. It's just stupid. It's a dumb narrative. But you think about how three three years down the road. If you're gonna go go all in because what happens defensive end. Draft me doesn't work. We get another one quarterback doesn't work. Okay. Two three years down the road. We'll go get another one. It's a rough position to analyze the tough position to find out. If the guy's got it kinda Murray does now whether he's going to be a superstar not remains to be seen. But I know he plays well under pressure. He elevates his play against good players. And I've never seen him other than you know, maybe one or two times on the field where like he looks confused other than that. He looks in complete control football IQ, accurate, if I'm Arizona. I'm not even hesitate in on this. If I can get a first round pick for Rosen somewhere. I'm shipping him. And I'm drafting Kyle Murray. And let's do it cliff. Does let's put that kid in that offense. And let's cut it loose. I kinda Murray is a franchise changer with his ability. Okay. This is my idea. I know the giants have they appear to be locked in on doing Haskins out of Ohio State. If I'm the giants I go after Cuyler Murray because I got saquon Barkley and Odell Beckham junior. Now, I wanna see how you adjust to our speed as we you know, you have. Those sweeps you like, I I'm gonna come at you. And you're going to go. Oh my God. I'm in a track meet here. And I I would just change. I would turn the NFL on its ear and with those three if I could put Cuyler Murray in there on that turf. And I know that the giants love their six four six five quarterback. If you look back ally and Phil Simms, and Jeff Hostetler, but man, you put him on turf with saquon and Odell Beckham. And man, I just think that would be some fun stuff. Quarterbacks for this the chance to change things completely. I can remember when Barry Sanders we played against him twice a year. You can't simulate speed, man. You just can't we put a Paul Palmer. We took anybody a running back wide receiver slot guy. Tried to make him the quarterback that week during the practice week. And then we go play. Barry Sanders in our defensive backs tackling air they hugged air because Barry was so good Cuyler Murray. The elusiveness you get those three cats together. Now, I loved Wayne Haskins. He plays great under pressure late in games. Great football IQ. If the giants don't get him somebody else should get him quick. Because I like that kid a lot. I like how he processes information but Murray with that speed, Dan, how do you? How do you defend it all you talk about the big three even though they may be small in stature? I don't know how you would defend it. So if you're going to set the NFL on its ear kinda Murray's the guy to do it. And I know people I can't stand it. He he's too small. Well, you know, what I hear that all the time yet the kid keeps playing on in at Oklahoma keeps succeeding. Everywhere. He goes they find a way to win. I love the fact that he's competitive now needs to be a better interview. But did you and you see the interview on my show? Did I ever see it? I was cringing at the same way too. Going into the interview, you know, Dan's going to ask probing questions just be prepared to give me an answer. I love when you had to call on the pops in the stands he wasn't giving. You an answer me off. At one point I go, but you know, this is on this microphones on. Yes. Well, you handled it great. But he's going to have to get better at that. Because he's going to be the face of a franchise to understand that those things happen in going to New York. They're going to happen rampantly if he goes there. So I'm with you, Dan, you can't see me late speed. You just can't and the kids a the key used to look at him. Dan is a baseball player athlete who was just dynamic football quarterback. Because he was a good athlete. I've changed. I think he's a quarterback who just happens to be a great baseball player, and an athlete like I said you had three inches to his his height. We wouldn't even be having this discussion, and we still shouldn't be having this discussion the guys winner and he's a dynamic game changer and probably will turn a franchise or the teams that play it on its ear. That's how that's how dynamic is good. Visit with you. And with you. We'll catch up soon. Can't wait, brother. Thank you, Sean Salisbury. Former NFL quarterback host of the Sean Salisbury show three to six on sports talk seven ninety in Houston. Yeah. I know people say, oh, you got a man crush on Cuyler Mary. Yeah. Yeah. I would say that have a man crush on. Because there's so many times when you talk yourself out of somebody and instead of talking yourself into somebody because I'm gonna draft you because this is what I envision doing with you. I don't know if the hash marks are big difference because you know, in college the hash marks are different than they are in the NFL. But if I can have Cuyler Murray if you have to account for Cuyler Murray saquon Barkley and Odell Beckham junior that's really hard to do. Because if you get Beckham back at peak Beckham form saquon Gabi eighteen hundred yards from scrimmage, and now, I put Cuyler Murray in there that dynamic now there is usually talk about gotta have a big strong quarterback playing at the Meadowlands because of the wind in there, and the weather I get it. It's windy in Oklahoma to. Yes, you do you think Beckham has the patience to? Let a rookie quarterback developed. He's going to have to whether it's Cuyler Maria Dwayne Haskins because he's already seen ally. And I don't think he's been too patient with Eli especially running quarterback. Yeah. But you're gonna have that run pass option with Cuyler Murray. It feels like on every single playing. I I think he's in might be a top five pick top. I mean, I feel like he is. I don't know if a team will pull the trigger on. Yes. Mclovin. This feels about where you know, guys starts out ten around and February to be number one is the Baker Mayfield path, and it goes back to when when they had that draft. And I remember coming in on that Monday. And I said guys Baker Mayfield is going number one. You guys went. There is no way. He's too small. I said, my friend who's a scout spoke to the Browns scouts who said we're taking Baker Mayfield. And you know, the social media erupted with oh my God. Can you the Browns reportedly in ice said at that's what I'm told? He's going number one overall because they're even Patrick Mahomes because prior to draft. That's when I got my friend who said, you know, you should have Patrick Mahomes on I go, man. I love. I don't know if he can play the NFL, and he goes, no, he's moving up higher than anybody. He's the hot prospect moving up because I thought to Shawn Watson was he goes, no, Mahomes is the guy, and I thought he goes the saints wanna get Mahomes, and I go oh my God. That's a big story at little did. We know Kansas City was going to go all in on the homes, and they already had Alex VIN. So I will come back final call for phone calls, and our final results of the poll question is well what we learned all of that coming up. Everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife drop off the dry cleaning pick-up, some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. The good thing. You don't have to drop off or pick up. Anything? 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You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer pity in most nesting doll her lot in life. Here. It comes. Didn't take long Adam Schefter tweeting. The cardinals GM Steve time asked today by reporters. If Josh Rosen is Arizona's quarterback is response. Yeah. He is right now for sure. Well that sounded permanent Louis Riddick. The mothership. When Cuyler Murray ends up going number one overall. Free your mind. The rest will follow. I've also seen at least ten NFL media type saying I've been telling you all along Kyla Murray's number like, wait. What? But this our Carson Wentz was right around ten fifteen this time of year, then everybody Trubisky was fifteen could Cuyler Murray. Be peaking too soon there. You'll get ahead of it. Yeah. That's a boy don't I'm the ones leading the charge for column or to go number one overall. And I'm starting to go maybe pecan a little bit. What is okay? Let's let's be on record. The official height of Cuyler Murray is going to be now is this inches or this is barefoot is combine measurement that tomorrow. Okay. All right. I'll go first ok five nine and seven eighth. I was going to say five nine and three quarters. So I will still I'm going five nine and five eight. So it'd be a five nine five eight five nine five eight maybe what do you guys got enhance size? I would go in nine. I dunno. No. We gotta go hide. Yeah. I got exactly what paulie had five nine seven eight okay for it. So I'm going to say five nine and a half. I would just go on. I would just go on over five nine. Or like, nobody's going five. Ten no. We were standing right next to the nobody wants the over. Yeah. I'm not going over here. Brian in California. Hi, brian. Would you have for me? Hey, five eleven to twenty. Dan, I've been I've been, you know, watching some film on the Super Bowl, and I've been watching all these situations with like the giants. And I I'm I'm starting to think nobody ever talks about the offensive line these teams because if you were to take Tom Brady put him on the giants team last year. He would have got killed. Everybody's bagging on Eli saying, oh, well, he's he's done. But he only had two to three seconds. That's the football. And it's like, I, you know, I I wanted to get your opinion on how many GM's come into new teams and start with basics like give me an offensive line. So I can have a Murray. So I can protect the quarterback that I have because you know, it's just the most underrated thing ever. I always make my Super Bowl picks. I look and thanks for the call Brian. I look at the offensive and defensive lines of these teams of how good they are. You know, I looked at the saints. Great offensive line of looking at the chargers with the offense and defensive lines there. Those were my Super Bowl. Picks. And I and I do look at their offensive lines. But Cuyler Murray will be he'll be blocked for differently than Tom Brady. Your Ben Roethlisberger will be fritzy what did you learn on today's program, Candace Parker says the Celtics look like they don't like each other on the court. Yeah. That was so strong commentary by her last night. Mclovin. Sean Salisbury talked about Kyle berry getting skinny and all paulie. Jon morosi speaks Italian. Well, see no, Connor gentlemen. Otzi? What did I learn for it? So it's high on Kyla Amari thinks he's already better now than the cardinals quarterback. Josh rosen. What we learned brought to you by Vic science nasal spray a couple of sine X nasal sprays. And it works in seconds to clear your nose and lasts for up to twelve hours. Be ready when congestion strike Sinek nasal spray uses directed talk to you tomorrow. Thanks for joining us here on the Dan Patrick show. 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REShow: Daniel Jeremiah. Hour 1 (01-15-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Daniel Jeremiah. Hour 1 (01-15-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on apple podcast and podcast one. Everybody's got A to do list. Drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list and the good thing is you don't have to drop off or pick up anything. All you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance extra money in your pocket. Of course this may be the most rewarding warning to do you do today all right everybody. Welcome to this edition of the rich Eisen show or live from Los Angeles California from the. At and T. Studios Studios thrilled to be here with you. On your humble host on a very special day for a ton of football individuals and family only members and people have been waiting for this day for quite some time and A Big Day for my friends at Good Morning Football. I couldn't couldn't be more excited for this program when we first came on the air on. NFL Network in In two thousand and three in. NFL total axis was our first show and and and And for years a lot of us were wondering when there was gonna be another tent pole programming good morning. Football has become that and it was a big. I'm Dave for that show. As they announced they were the home of for the announcement of thirteen more individuals. That are making up the centennial class of of the two thousand and twenty pro football hall of Fame Twenty Large Fifteen of them have already been announced to was this weekend. We had bill cowher on this show yesterday to to discuss his induction his announcement. Jimmy Johnson was next then. There were thirteen name today. And they'll be five more named in the Voted in any any conventional manner by the usual list of selectors Those five men will be announced the night of NFL honors completing waiting list of twenty. And Look we all have our soft spot for people who rooted for we grew up loving and and in my case somebody very special. I'm GONNA get emotional. I do this a lot. Not but my life professional life since leaving. ESPN in two thousand. Three wouldn't wouldn't be what it was obviously without. NFL Network and NFL network would not have existed Without to the people who who got in today one of whom is Paul Tagliabue he was the commissioner at the time WHO I've never really had an in depth conversation with him about what arms he had to twist to have each thirty two members of the National Football League cough up a nice chunk of change to help launch our network but the other gentleman. That's on the screen with the photograph with Paul Tagliabue's right now. Now the fact that he's in the pro football hall of fame you know is is really emotional for me. Because he's no longer with us and he's one of the sweetest guys I've ever met and He Steve Sable be longtime NFL films administrator and President and son of the founder. Ed Who's already the in the hall of fame and you hear when people get named into the hall of fame from time to time. Hey how is that guy not already in. Are you telling me that person's is not already in Steve. Sable was not in and He was suffering from the cancer took took him from us when his dad was going in and thankfully he was he was still with us when it went and he was there for that day and he had her now looking down down today with their long lens and dumb. I speak for a ton of people who work in the NFL and work work at NFL films and certainly NFL network. And say way to go Steve Sable that is your best shot right there so so awesome so many of us have grown up and love this sport because of that spinning football that comes right at us and of course is the Voice of God and John for Senator Who Steve Once told me now takes he had. He told me he wants out. Takes cursing up a storm. You imagine that voice dropping bombs. Yes he route up some of his takes you know and I do that a lot too. Here's your human. But Steve. I'm like can I ever hear that nope but but that's why. Nfl Films is so successful. As it has been is the trust level. The trust level that coaches his and players gave to sables because they earned it and all of us as fans have been rewarded by getting a glimpse as to what goes on behind the scenes because these players and coaches are miked up. Steve Once told me a story about how George Allen could be seen running into halftime at the RFK ripping his mike off because he was so superstitious. He'd never really worn a Mike for big game and he rip the mic off because his team was down and he blamed it on on. NFL films. They were down at halftime. And I could go on and on with with all these stories but to add the music and the pageantry and the love of films to the National Football League all of us we are so thankful. Couldn't be more thrilled about this really. I'm over the moon about all of that And we'll talk about it later on John. Maher is GONNA join us on the program. He's the corner of the New York. The football giants his dad's nicknames on football the Duke Wellington Marriage going into a longtime general manager of the Baltimore Colts and the dolphins who then was the architect checked the parcells era Bella Check Era Lawrence Taylor era of the New York giants. He got into the pro football football hall of fame today to and obviously there's lots of talk about contemporary with John Having hired a new head coach Joe Judge and he's on the competition committee. So that'll be later on on this show. also interesting. I'm looking at this list. Here Jimbo covert how about that of of the bears of those you no Toronto tremendous all-time great bears teams. I think Richard Dent was the last one to go in from team. Potentially just off. I think you're right but now Jimbo Jimbo. Covert from that line Winston Hill longtime jet. He won with Protected Nemeth he's in the hall of fame congrats to the eagles fans out. There loved Harold Carmichael for all those years. He's in the hall of fame. Interesting Name Year Alex Karras. This is in the hall of fame. Now he got suspended one year for gambling you admittedly bet on. NFL Games. And they he and Paul Horn and got the gate. You remember that back in the sixties right fans might know Alex Karras not just for his football player but also he played Mongo in blazing Saddles and was the dad of Of Webster for all those years on television but Alex Karras in the hall of fame which I I think you could knock him over with a feather. If you told the nineteen sixties version of Alex Karras he would wind up in Canton Ohio one day and the pro football hall of fame he he. He wore that suspension. Not You know not as a as a scar in a way I mean. It's the fame story goes when he came back in the League went out for the coin. Toss US and ref says two heads or tails and he says. I can't tell you because I'm not supposed to gamble. That's the story goes without scars very good. Good Yeah Donnie. Shell the steelers the tenth member of that tremendous steel curtain defense going in of era. Obviously not just the defense cliff Harris. Going in a safety Bob Dylan added as a safety and then some old schoolers that you may not know edge. sprinkle Max speedy. And Hey everybody duke slater of your Milwaukee Badgers Rock island independents in Chicago Cardinals. Going and I'll just say this because some people to make it. I don't know how Roger Craig didn't make it again. We just saw Christian. McCaffrey do something this year. That only two other guys have done. One thousand thousand thousand rushing yards receiving yards Marshall First Ballot Hall of Famer. Did it Christian. McCaffrey just did it. In the only other guys Roger Craig. I don't know what this guy's got to do to get in Jiu Pearson's all kind of pissed off right. The club is not very happy videos on twitter. Man Not good and How does Tom Floor is not make it I? I just don't know what this guy's gotta do. This gotTa do to get in the pro football fan and and this particular time I think is an the unkindest cut for a lot of these guys because this is the time where they say. Hey we're opening it up for ten of you ten of you players waiting for a long time. We're open it up for you just this one time outside side of the usual time. We're only two of you. Get in from the Veterans Committee every other year. Give you a shot ten of you and this year they still don't don't make it. It's particularly unkind. And you know I. It's tough to say. I have no idea whether Duke slater deserve it and there may be a handful of the slater's that are out there. There were popping champagne corks for GRANDPA or great GRANDPA and and you might deserve it. I don't know I don't know how you can measure. I guess that's why they have. People like ballot check on there about whether somebody who last played in Nineteen thirty-one deserves it. But to me I'll say it just to come full circle why I'm all teary eyed about Steve. Sable he's not here he's not here to enjoy it. You know I again. I'm a little emotional to there's The the ringer put out a An oral history of Stuart Scott Scott. Speaking of a bunch of people against Stewart passed away five years ago earlier this month re what. Let's let's celebrate the people while they're above ground. Can we do that. And shouldn't there be some form of consideration for that. I understand we have tip our cap to history. I get it. Ken Stabler waited forever. He passes away and then the next year. He's inducted I did it. It's sad but I guess we celebrate the announcement in they'll be five more and they'll be ten other guys who get Who get to have to wait another year or how about? However there's fifteen players in this list that are going to be weeded down by two thirds so that'll be happening on a couple of weeks at the At the Super Bowl So Daniel Jeremiah is going to call a couple couple minutes. It'd be talking about the here. And now Joe Borough essentially wrote his ticket to the first name read out in Las Vegas Nevada. Where imagining chase young is next? Does that mean the lions basically have the golden ticket for anybody wants to. Anybody wants Justin. Herbert I think so. Open for business and who else is DJ. See that has if you will flashed cashed. WE'RE GONNA put in perspective everything we just saw in the bowl season in literally. Two minutes time Dj's at the East Sweat Shrine game. He's going to be calling in seeing all these guys and I also WanNa talk to him about the retirement of keithly that happened last night. H Twenty eight crazy. It's a IT'S A. It's a very very brutal game of football and Somebody of Leuke mcleese stature and class and determination has decided at age. Twenty eight to use the phrase of the day is going to take care of his medals so He made that decision. We'll talk to dangle Jeremiah. About all of that Dan Shaughnessy will join us from the Boston in Globe. Red Sox didn't wait to hear what Major League Baseball is going to say about Joey Cora they determined as the ownership put out in a statement. Yesterday they agreed. Read the pardon me Alex Cora Joey Yeah I'm pardon me They decided that Alex could not effectively lead the team. Based on everything. That's come out and core. I guess agreed. Even though I don't know they gave him. They gave him the respect of him. Saying I agree. And to put a statement out mutually part ways ways but there is no mutual. What are the Red Sox can do? What does all this mean and at some point we're going to find out what the Red Sox actually did in two thousand eighteen that caused them to preemptively? Make this maneuver. Unless it's all based on what we saw from the commissioners. Yeah he was all over the right. So Dan Shaughnessy is GonNa join us there and we might ask him a question youtube out. Tom Brady maybe why not and then. The Comedian Rob Hugo will be here in studio radio will take a nice break From all the I Guess Hardcore Sports Talk Although this guy is he's a Clemson alum so that must have been tough. Watch Monday night for him He's got a new net flicks show called medical police out. Very Funny Guy Rob Hubel. He Ian riddler tight. I think they go back to the The daily show days when Rob Rob was segment producer on the daily show. Baby here's a that was a deep roster irs correspondents who are all over the map these days man. What's our poll question over there Chris? Okay so We as we know the provable. The hall of fame announced their centennial class. This morning we'll just rock and roll hall of fame announced their class as well today. They do it on. Good Morning. Rock rock and roll is their show. Good Morning Rock and roll made there should be on the walking on MTV or something like that although MTV's not about rock and roll anymore it's been a long shot. It's not about about music. I don't think so. Here's who we got. We got winning Houston. Nine inch nails the notorious B I g t rex doobie Brothers and depeche mode getting inducted grads to all of them grads to them. None of your your high. They don't know. Oh Man. I am just an emotional state. Eight to them what it is. Maybe it's too much coffee. I have no idea all right. So let's do this. Which Hall of fame would you rather be inducted? The Pro Football Hall of fame or the Rock can roll hall of fame. Average has shown twitter. Vote Right now. Wouldn't you say the. Is there a bus. Do you get a bus going into the rock and roll. I won't one time and so two I don't see I don't remember around. What do they have this like? Is it a photograph of somebody's fifteen years ago. I don't remember all right. Well micro now. And he's conveniently not mark or hold on a minute Mike Delta sorry Jason. We're glad to have you in Mike seat. You could play the role of del Tufo and professed to now. I know you're very good. It's the seat it's up there. Of course I know tomorrow until you well done very good. All right. We're GONNA come back Daniel Jeremiah. Your phone calls at eight four four two four rich you answer. The poll question went to help us out. If you've never been to the rock and roll fame. Every time I go to Cleveland. I was either covering an Indians game or a browns game goes straight to straighten out Daniel Daniel Jeremiah. Next on the rich Eisen show. Don't go anywhere. It's the greatest time of the year in sports. Nfl College football MLB NBA NHL. 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I'm I'm in-between practices at the East West. I've got I've got the training a little tape done on. Jacob Easson the quarterback from Washington brand. I've got my mock draft one point. Oh on the computer to my left is. I'm trying to throw that slop king. Now Daniel let's go. What do we got? What do we have what we got? We can't give away the we can't give away the the capital here. We've got this things. Come on what into into probably posted early next week. Dj One and two are in bold. You could actually take us sharpie and write it on your your computer screen and just leave it there for the next three months right. Come on now right on the that is A. That's a fair point I can I will. I will have those one to from here till the to the finish line. I usually the most years I try and ride the same horse number one all the way through just to see you know how it works out some years. You know I think myles Garrett was easy Jameis Winston. I think was another another one where it's start to finish. Just Kinda wrote it. All the way through FRI- I don't know that I've ever had it where I've had one and two. I guess maybe you know what the Goff and Wentz year pretty early on. You knew those were the top two picks after those traits used. It know who was going to go. I that's correct And Winston is the last player to have Gone Ahead Ed and won a national championship in an undefeated campaign win a heisman and then be the first overall selection in a draft as we expect Vaxjo borough to be. There's no chance right that the Bengals don't take borrow or swap the pick out right DJ Well there's no oh chance. They swapped pick out because they don't believe in trading like that's that's just not in their DNA new not like drape they like to use the pick that was given to them by the commissioner whether it's one or thirty one or thirty two whatever they get. They're going to use that pick so I I don't see them trading and then you know I I look Mike. Brown isn't talked to a lot of people. So he's the one who makes that decision and You know let's he's he's got something else in mind if they do have something else in mind. It won't get out you talk about organization where there will be no leaks. There will be no leaks there. It's a very tight circle But conventional wisdom and everybody around the League expects that to be Joe Borough one and then Washington man. I've talk to. I've got a lot of friends. Different teams in the in the NFC East and man. They're they're saying. This can be a quick turnaround in Washington. When you've got shares is young and Montas sweat coming off the edges Pain inside and they've got three other defensive tackles that are really good that's got a chance to be dominant front. It to me is a blueprint candidate. The forty niners upset for them and then so Daniel Jeremiah here in the rich Eisen show when when we heard about out Again Chase young coming out that day that we heard Jason coming out and I'm like okay. Now you got you got your to to me. The Detroit Lions Sir sitting in the catbird seat. Because we'RE ASSUMING STAFFORD'S GONNA be coming back and looking like the Stafford pre back injury this year and he was having a dynamite campaign campaign so the lions can sit back and say who wants to write who who wants to and raise their hands assuming that again everything is fine line with two of that. The lions are kind of the domino the first domino in the twenty twenty draft that we're going to be focusing on from here all the way through to opening night. What do you you say to that Sir? Yeah we'll be in Vegas but the draft starts in Detroit so that to me is where the where the fun really begins and You know I look. I think they need to find out. Stafford is going to be fully healthy going forward. If you're asking me what I would do I'm sticking with Stafford on auctioning that pick and I'm I'm I don't WanNa fall further within the seventh pick. But you've got Miami six or Miami Five chargers six Carolina seven who are all quarterback teams And so you can get a big big hall without having to do what some other teams have had to do and drop all the way out of the top ten. You're still in a great position to get somebody like Jeffrey Okuda From Ohio state who comes in and helps your secondary and a boatload of other pics but I think they at least have to investigate and say you know. Look if you love to and you think you could auction off Matthew Stafford and get a king's ransom for him. He's older. He costs more money. You get to on the cheap and a bunch of picks you could kind of start. He kind of a new era there in Detroit so I don't think that's what they'll do. I don't I think that's what they should do. But that's something they still have to discuss. Why do you say panthers or a quarterback needy team? I mean Matt Rule and Joe Brady Cam doesn't work their fees if his his foots all good. What do you think Dj? I think a lot of times rich when you have when you have. The new coaches come in and new personnel. I think they'll hire a GM after drafts over but it's a new era new owner A lot of times the quarterback gets swept up in that. And I think if you look at if you watched Lsu if you you watch the saints right. That's where Joe Brady came from. And that's the offense they ran Lsu. I did not think cameras a precision passer. I did not think he's in great fit in that system uh-huh okay. This is interesting. Borrow best quarterback season you've ever seen gay. I kept waiting for a bad game rich eighteen. It never happened I've never seen. Yeah to me sixty touchdowns I mean. I don't know how I mean. How do you argue against it? I've never seen anything like that. It's here here's the fascination and there are some people in and scout can be hard headed rich and he does not have a huge arm and that's the knock on them. That's that's if you're GONNA try and pick them apart. That's the only thing you can do and I really gave a lot of thought this and I put a huge. He's all the way up there. It's going to be chased young number one on my aboard and borough be number two But rich when you think about this the history of the NFL the all time leading passer right drew brees would would he win any Radar gun contests with an arm strength. No the all time leading rusher emmitt Smith would. He won a forty yard dash contests with a lot of running back during his day. While you're asking the wrong guy about the forty but I think I get your point. Yes you and then. WHO's the all time leading? Receiver was the height weight speed guy. You're no Sir Sir. He's the greatest to ever do it in terms of production in the NFL so to get hung up on not having upper-echelon top tier arm strength. I think is just silly. Yeah I mean Brady. We had the the measurable says we know from the COMBI. Didn't read off the charts. Either you know so. Can I give you a guest. Can I give you a guest recommendation for the rich. Eisen show goforth Daniel Jeremiah. Yeah you need to have Kevin you need to have Kevin Falk on okay all right. I haven't focused at Lsu. Kevin Falk has told every scalp roles through their job. Brady is Tom Brady. Nobody would know better than him. so He's been around both guys he'd be a great person to talk. Joe Borrow. Is Tom Brady. You're basically sets David. Falk is telling people well he would know. Obviously since he's seen both up close and Personal Daniel Jeremiah. Here on the rich Eisen show who's flashed. Who who have you because I mean it's amazing? I'm in the middle of like a bowl game. That all of America's watching in tweeting about and then you just throw something up there like the boy this kid just. I've just watched some tape while watching this game. It's just like your like apropos of nothing. Skaters really terrific and should be flashing the combine and and then the draft. So who whoo Hoo. Hoo Hoo you spotlighting right. Now we're not talking about. I'll tell you what here this time of year is fun for me because You know I try not to read too much of what all the while. The other draft Knicks are thrown out. There I do you know like to get my own opinion on these guys and so it's interesting sometimes though to take temperature and kind of see some people that aren't getting a Lotta run and I watch him and I'm like what am I missing here. This guy's a freak There is an offensive tackle at Louisville named MCI Becton. Who is you know six? He's he's enormous rich. He's six seven three hundred sixty three hundred seventy pounds. I'll text you video of him Dunkin in in high school you could see how much of a freak this guy is. But he's guys like that. Don't come around very often man. He's GonNa be a top ten pick. He's a big time big time player. So you're going left. Tackle a lot of everybody. I'm saying WHO's flashing you. Big Time left. Tackle for this draft How about that? y'All come up often. You'll snippet of him of him getting off of foreign dunking basketball at three hundred and sixty pounds and see what you think. Okay How to Keith? Lease retirement hit the scouting community. And everybody else evaluators at East West Shrine Daniel You know surprise. I think you know it's I was bumped because I I Dan Morgan little bit. Dan Morgan secret guy was a great claire there and then Is really one of the up and coming personnel guys working with the Buffalo Bills and I talked to them before. This happened so afternoon practice today. I might go trying right ben his ear little bit and see what he thinks about that but we have seen now rich a a good number of hall of fame caliber players Decide before the age of thirty or around at that time to To shut it down and I think those decisions are personal but I know one thing. That's are we going to have to change a little bit of the criteria the expectation Asian on the hall of fame thing. I mean you don't have to play twelve years. Thirteen years to be a hall of Famer this. This guy was as good as anybody in his position for a very long time. Eight years probably how long he played. Well yeah he he. He played one year longer than lock. You know what I mean and and I think that's what you're driving at here. Is that the NFL one hundred campaign began with the luck retirement. Bu- uh-huh where we weren't. We weren't thinking about that. He clearly was although his issues. Were not conclusive like clearly keith. Lease was because I mean the the the night where we were on Thursday night football And he got his bell rung so badly and he's crying hysterically leaving the field and we learn. It's not him crying hysterically because he he realized yet another concussion. It might be it just that you can't control your emotions many times when you have been concussed as many times as he was and it was so jarring and it was so frightening Daniel that maybe we do have to start considering that sort of stuff and I'm wondering how that would work You you are boots on the ground right in the middle of of what we would call the culture of the NFL. So what do you think. I think you're GONNA see more of it and I I oh I don't you know look I I think he's you get a chance to have a major impact on the game you know. He went to a super bowl You know all these all pro's pro bowls and then he's got he's got plenty of money and they just said that's enough and and I think look I'm not a doctor I can't get into the long term you know Situation there with concussions in cousins and all that I I I just think that that's A. It's a personal decision but I think you're GonNa see it happening more and more and as a you know from a personnel side standpoint the way I would look at the people look at it. You can't assume any longer that you're going to have these guys for you know fourteen fifteen years you just. It's changing and I don't I don't think it's a bad that thing rich. I think they they gave tremendous amount to this game. The game gave a tremendous amount to them and they decide to move on. I I go back to when we were talking about him. I was with the Philadelphia Eagles during that draft. And I just pulled it up. 'cause I WANNA make sure that I was right on this but we thought we thought there might have been like an error in the computer system because we had all of his production rich three years at Boston College. One hundred fifty eight tackles one hundred. Eighty three tackles two hundred. Ninety one tackles. I mean this guy I mean not just in the NFL. He was then on every plane. College that's a lot of contact. Sure as Daniel Jeremiah. Here on the rich Eisen show Another sensitive subject. I want to ask you about Although this is is not health it involves the chargers for whom you've been calling radio Two years now with With Money Smith so The quarterback and what they do at that position and the possibility that Brady could come here. There's a lot of moving parts here. Lada spinning plates. That might have to be winding up on on a certain spot for that to happen. how likely do you think this is happening for the Los Angeles chargers they open up a new building in need to put fannies. He's into seats. Dj Yeah I mean I think fuck it not with any inside information but it just kind of at felt almost like the you know the kind of end of chapter there with with Philip rivers and we'll see what happens with him but if you just Kinda my gut my gut would say and I wouldn't have said this even a two months ago. I said you probably still come back with Philip and I can make the case. That's maybe the smart thing for one more year. But can't envision a scenario where were you tyrod is your one and only going into the new building and I can't imagine you let Philip go unless you could bring in somebody that's got a little juice and that would either have to be somebody like two and the draft or you're talking about the ultimate juice there with with Michigan man and Tom Brady so that to me. Seems like the three options you have. It's Philip Rivers I. It's to a more. It's Tom I mean. That sounds like the name of an album. This is tom well. There's Herbert's Justin Justin. Herbert do you think that would be channel title. I don't I don't I know a lot of people have talked about that. I've done a lot of work a lot. More work on him in the last couple of days I don't I don't really view him as a top ten pick rich. I know he's big and strong and all that I just to me. That's a little early for me so I couldn't endorse that. If I if I was in the chargers situation Daniel Jeremiah. Here the rich Eisen show and then lastly The early favorite for deepest position in the draft would be which wide receiver. Oh my gosh. Rich wants to come in. You remember the year. Remember we had Odell and Jarvis and Mike Evans and all those guys right. This is going to be just like like that. It is unbelievable and that even with a couple of these guys going back to school But when we get a chance to combine and we get to see you're gonna see you know rugs is gonNA run in the four twos. Who's this you know camera? I don't know if you've seen him from Penn state when you're watching them he's gonNA run potentially in the four twos You know CD lamb. I think is the best one. Jerry Judy's is right there with them You got a kid I U- era Zona State. Pittman there at. USC is a great player minute as long long list of receivers and if you look a championship weekend you've got Aj Brown okay. You also obviously have a Har de que metcalf would have been but he had a terrific season Hartman Hartman. Hardman had a big return for Kansas City. Also showed up dressed like yellow cool jaycees. Got The swag going on and Lebeau. Deebo Samuel what. He's been unable to add in the second half a season for the forty niners has been particularly significant. I guess the the The the packers the only one that don't come in with a shiny rookie wide receiving Object into into this weekend. Dj Yeah. That's a great point and these guys what we've seen is in the past. It used to be you know you never gonNA see rookie receivers receivers right very often. See them have a big time impact because of the adjustment. But now as you're seeing the Saturday game blend in the Sunday game and figuring out ways to get these guys the ball it bubble screens and fly sweeps and quick hitters and and over the top. All the they've found a way to get a lot of these kids right away and we're going to see it in my my opinion one of the best groups we've ever seen in this upcoming class. Dj thanks for the time appreciate it. Also the update on on the top nineteen on the list For programs appreciated that that update you gave me on on twitter. I'm late painless. Climate bring me over a welcoming. President has a new neighbor in the top twenty five. Yeah You know what like I said Michigan's eighteen APP state nineteen. Just keep it down next door. That's all we don't want to hear from you okay. I just thought Charles at the practice this morning. I don't have to listen to others receiving votes. I don't believe on that program tell tell. Dj Gotcha that. Tell them that will you please tell him. I said Hi will. Thanks to the tiny and you'll see on NFL network and the coverage of everything that's going to be going down from East West Shrine this weekend that's on NFL Network all through the draft on NFL network. Love that Guy Right there man. That's there was a if you remember the draft. It was a a few years ago in Chicago. Okay there was a the first Non American drafted after the first European drafted into the German guys. Name was Maurits Bolinger. Okay and like He. He tried out at a an event in Florida because he found the NFL on Youtube. Right in Germany obviously there have been players from origins around the United St around the world that have been drafted after but this guy was born and played. His football. Outside of America didn't play at a university didn't do any of that and so he was drafted and it was a big moment when he got drafted and we had him on the set and it was really moving for the kid and for the NFL the NFL had all sorts sorts of executives. That were on our set that were beaming beaming that somebody from Germany just got drafted in the NFL because it gave credence to what they have been laying groundwork for to plant seeds to make this an international game. And so we're on the set and it was moving for the kid moving for everybody and I thanked him at which point win. You'll Jeremiah said so. The score is now currently Germany Germany. One Tennessee nothing in the NFL draft and we all looked at him like. Are you using using this moment to troll on Charles Davis and Tennessee on live television. Wow was yes he was doing. That was all right. We'll check on our poll question. I got a great sable story to pass along to you too. Because he got into the pro. Football Hall of fame The comedian Rob Huber will be here here in studio at the top of the next hours diehard Clemson Guy John Mero the CO owner of the giants to talk more about the pro football hall of fame and Dan Shaughnessy on what's going on at the baseball scandal. Certainly certainly in Boston. That's all still to come on the rich Eisen show. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting this podcast certainly couldn't do this show without either of you. I wanted to remind you that you can support my sponsors by going to my show page at podcast. One DOT COM clicking on the support this podcast cast button and there. You'll see all of my wonderful sponsors that help make this show possible. So thank you for downloading grabbing of course supporting now back to the show. Check it on. The poll question brought you capital in which is reimagined banking by offering savings and checking accounts with no fees are minimums in one nation's best savings rates capital one. What's in your Wallet Chris where we have over there? I results in both the pro. Football Hall of fame and rock and Roll Hall of fame announced him inductees. Which would you rather be inducted twenty-eight percent rock and Roll Hall of fame seventy two percent pro football I mean it's more exclusive? The pro football hall of fame agreed. The building is not made by. I M Pei at the pro football hall things right next to I. Seventy seven hundred totally understand brock's role by zoom by the place. Where you know Earl Campbell has but his bust says this yes? The stones are still touring. And they're in their seventies. So that's what I'm saying and like you know Joe Gibbs was I think for Joe Gibbs him. Paul Brown were the only ones to coach after being which is why it took so long for parcels to get in as I thanks. Are we done now bill. Because if we're done then we can put in and I'm still hoping Brett farve comes back prior to today's seven hundred nineteen inductees into the rock. I can roll hall of fame and there's different categories. I guess in the same way that there's different how many thousands upon thousands of musicians out there the pro football hall fame is the most exclusive of all pretty much or baseball. Is I think there's fewer baseball isn't there. I don't know I mean baseball. Sometimes like we're we're not inducting anybody this year you know. We'll we'll give you two now but too old school people. Come out to the meadow and COOPERSTOWN will give you a couple of Nice Day. This is one hundred year breaking news. Fifty plus guys on a roster and we're only at three hundred twenty eight right inductees eight four four two four riches. The number two Dow couldn't be more excited again. That Steve Sables. And I'll never forget the day where we're NFL network and again we launched NFL network. The first voice you hear I heard was Steve Sable because we started with the network came on the air. I wasn't me strolling out on. NFL total access. It started with a two minute Senate video that. NFL films put together sort of like a countdown from two minutes down to start the NFL network. And you still hear Steve Sables voice saying this is You're watching a I guess production of NFL Network on when Games on the Ninth Grade Games on the network or right before awesome right before NFL. One hundred shows was bothering is a presentation of the national. I'm walking in you. Know the the studios on the other side of the offices that NFL network in Culver City. And I guess we only have a year to go. I think we're moving into the new stadium soon at some point I duNno. I shouldn't say these things. I don't know the exact date but studios is on the other side of the offices. I go from total access studio to come back to the office and this is back when they were literally twenty-five employees of the NFL network and I- stroll in and who as I'm going back out to the studio who walks in but ed sable unannounced showed up. Yeah wanted to see what everything's everything's all about this all. NFL Network unannounced rich. Eisen Watch all the time sitting there in Arizona. I'm like that's great awesome. Anybody know you hear it now. Nobody knows I'm here. All Right Ed. Would you mind just taking a seat right here put them. I'm in the seat in the foyer of. NFL Network where people who would normally just come to drop stuff off messenger things. Whatever there's ED sable sitting there I go into the offices of our President Steve Bornstein and I go you know Steve? What's Richie boy am I steve? Are you aware Ed Sables here. And he might have used the get out of here. I'm like yeah and Steve took him the personally on a tour of the facility because again we would not have existed as twenty four seven three sixty five entity covering the NFL without the library of NFL films to fill out that amount of programming hours period and her story. So what you see today on. NFL Network were good morning. Football is announcing Steve Sables enshrinement into the pro football fame and watching arching currently the coverage of championship. Weekend Press Conference Palooza going on right. Now it's going on right now and we'll have all of that for you doesn't exist without sable doesn't and I would also say Tagliabue and my Buddy Steve Bornstein throw him in there too because without it. This doesn't exist so it's very personal for me. I will just never forget that moment and I'm trying to post on instagram and instagram's stories right now. Thirteen minute long interview. I conducted with Steve on January thirtieth. 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You're going to be a part of our show. We're going to get you and bream. Oh Brian will be there. I think we need to make artem because he's been such an amazing Coho. Yeah we'll have artem. We'll we'll have artem come. Maybe I'll try and get them to dance for you guys. Maybe he'll teach you all some dance steps and we'll have a special guest as well on top of it so make sure to get your tickets are on sale. Well now and we're going to put a link in the episode descriptions so make sure to click it. Check it out. Get your tickets. We can't wait to see you all their everyone. Welcome back to the Bellas podcast. It's almost fall and football season then he here so we're kicking off with special guests. Brian or lacquer plus arte is back to host another hilarious edition Russian of everyone's fever game show Bella brains all right here we go happy. Hump Day Bella Army. I'm breathing and I'm Nicole and this is the Bellas podcast. We have an awesome episode for you today. From football season to grow to more deer Bellas so much fun stuff plus a special guest so without further ado it's time for opening up. Let's it's pop that bottle alright. You guys show today. I gotta pick the bottle of wine so it's not going to be as snobby bobby as Nikki Lakes to pack but I am going with long Meadow Ranch Cabernet it is so delicious and what I love of about it is not only is it Napa Valley but they come in half bottles and for someone like myself. WHO's husband doesn't drink. It's perfect. I get my two little glasses says and I don't waste any wine but enough about my wine. Drinking Nikki Ni- are so excited because we're obsessed with football and everyone or knows where total football girls so we thought it was only appropriate to do a football episode so we are really excited to announce to you guys that we have Brian Urlacher on her show. Why isn't that we kick off the season officially even though as last week Uh Eagles go on your show no the bears which by the way we got Bella brain last week by breeze has been and so he says who the oldest football team is an NFL. I totally thought it was Chicago. Bears brokers no okay that was the singer's bears the oldest okay. Who Do you think it was. Here's Donna the cardinals. We were the first here he said. Cardinals was this Chicago cardinals as we should have got point or we should have got half that right right. We'll have to check google. Later was my best friend. I Google everything we wanted you on is because to have our first football episode. We're like we need the best. We need a thirteen year vet that's right. We're thirteen years thirteen year old good job right now. Put back on every man like even Brian to my brother. Everyone's like wait. Brian Urlacher and I'm like yeah you are a lot of man crushes. I appreciate that Phil. MCM Right. It's your Sam man. Crush crush Monday your your brother. Did he tell you how we met at the airport. Osama's babe that's Jj over there. We balance. That's that's him over there and I saw it's definitely him. We didn't talk to them and then we I think at the gate or something we kinda talk this so it was Nice Cup that is a he was so soaked t Texas this immediately all the time pitcher play golf on Hobie terrible. He is lying probably is just I mean. I don't think Jj's amazing but just just won a golf. Try the Lake Tahoe. This latest probably embarrassed to play with you because maybe he's like. He's GonNa be way better than me and my brothers. I'm not I'm not doing right now. The hang with each other or a nice guy just flying flow club the the convocation. Jj for reason every time you're around him. It's like you're on a vacation. I agree. I'm a parent I have worked tomorrow. Why are we like Ron vacation boy he is. He's definitely a party boy but you know the cool thing that we're looking at is that we feel like we're kind of all all the same like. Nicole and I were in w w thirteen years we just officially retired cash. What would you say I mean for me. It's been like a year you but my role aw yeah but I never had an official retirement party or nothing but football players don't either you think. Oh my God hi. It's just kind of did it one day before. I'm not gonNA I mean I didn't want to go back. Play somebody else I was going to retire. Will you know what I'm thinking of doing. Green one here in Arizona. Maybe we do a joint joint park retirement party for the hall of fame so Oh famer yet great it does but the best night of my life the my way was awesome but can you describe it to us in the hall of Fame Party. Yes I explained to us Thursday night when we got to kin again and so I had everyone my like peewee football or Eighth Grade Football Ninth Grade Football High School football coaches college coaches and then the NFL all my teammates and coaches in all my friends from when I was eight till till now and everyone was like four hundred people there Lebron Party country meets the jury came in saying we went to bed at five thirty me and my wife and all three case. They'll till five thirty. Oh my gosh how the next morning shouldn't of the first thing we had for the hall of fame that morning I didn't go to really it's really Moscow's I'm because Russia's slipped into it was terrible so that is so and that was that in San Francisco where was that where Ohio Oh that's where the whole famous. That's that's right. Okay cool is that when you get in the hall of fame you can have your big retirement party I want to I want one now and then I want one title yeah. I'm not the Wrigley Mansion so actually showed. You do like what what's that. What do you you like that movie with the Green Light Great Gatsby. Oh I want Great Great Gatsby to think Leo would show up and be on my balcony. Probably that would be dreaming. You're not a message on your. I'm a supermodel in my head on the social media thing so we have to ask for us. We've been enjoying retirement life. How's it been for you. The last seven years as well well it was kind of adjustment at the beginning because you go from a routine or used to for Thirteen fifteen or even college the same thing and then it's like what do I do today. You wake up. You're like the first thing you think about is is not working about working out just have so much free time and I thought he was diving into golf. I want to get good at golf so I started playing a lot of golf. I play six days a week and my kids I was keeping be busy but then we moved here fulltime and on my start mountain biking still still the kids but they go school from you know eight hundred three every day so I gotta find stuff there. If I hang out with my wife all day we'll just wrestle and fight and having teachers Samantha Pretty but she's real tough tough so yeah. I just hang out man. It was like something business wise I saved enough money. I don't have to doing that stuff. Also I did okay. That's that's fun. I enjoy if I get bored. I'm sure I'll figure something out. I'm not word yet so I'm not really well and the one thing I love is that you are such a great dad. Like you know taller listeners. We were talking earlier before we start recording and it was so cute the way you're speaking about all your kids are. I'm so lucky because they're all smart. They're all of course. Most parents say this about their kids. They're cool. They're all different to like. I have three. I have eighteen fourteen thirteen. My oldest is a girl by middle girl might youngest as my son but they're also different and they're also smart and just just cool their funding colleges. Colleges here died how you earn reality. He's forty one started early but that's it's crazy. I got to go to college parties with her. I know yeah right to protect and be the bodyguard. Boys are not scared of DADS and he now they're not messaging now yeah so I used to the call girls in high school and be like Oh Johnson. Can I speak to Samantha Analysis. They texture daughters. They don't have to call the house anymore. Aw which I believe there should be a rule though like I feel like no matter what then no one knows landlines so maybe they have to call the Dead Cell L. Phone or dad for your should well. You'RE GONNA have to figure it out because they have to call my phone. I okay let Burbano that so. She gets that mental out to all the guys hook it up card. Make a card like instead of a business card. It's like a dating dating hard. Inner parents like look all smuggled before she gets her own phone by the way I mean for me. We didn't didn't get a phone until the end of high school to drive the car right twenty two in the glove compartment the big one in the middle constantly but then when I got through college they had to flip phones. I had a flip phone voice. Morris I would yes cool. Bring back here. You know what I noticed which I have to be bad because sometimes crash and I like to watch Netflix and I'll put my laptop on my stomach or my phone. I'm like Oh no don't do this. Bree like yeah. You gotta live cancer now why Pissy everything does horrible. It is true we speaking of living. I have a question. Do the bucket list like. Is there anything that you're like. I totally want to do this. There are some things that certain got to do the show I I love golf so I got to play at Augusta the the masters but the few times I'm playing. I'm excited about that but I'm not a big traveler. I love the United States. I really love being here. I love everything a food. I love the people of my wife's. The big travelers who wants to go overseas receives all stay here. That's awesome. That's a good question about the bucket list things. I always like I feel like I need to go back in like look at my bucket list because my mom had mentioned it the other day and I'm like I think I need to add to this skewed yeah because you've done a lot because when you get in the limelight and you get to meet people and do things if you just Kinda lose track of what you WanNa do 'cause you do. I agree people that you'd never thought you would meet and then it kind of gets old hat because like Oh. I met them so. It's cool. It's it's so true because we travel so much for work like we all were in different cities every week and it's like when you actually get free time. It's like the last thing I do even though I'm still obsessed with travelling fishing. Oh really yes. It is finds you need to go to like Alaska or in Florida. I'll go down there ten twelve times. I love it off hundred miles offshore. Your phone doesn't work nothing so you're out there. You put your phone away. Let's taking pictures and we listen to music and we drink and we have a grill in a bowl. We eat the fish. We catch cool blessed. I love it that is fresh. Fish fresh is a good time so we like doing that. Here's my like getaway stuff. I like it. I feel like you're a lot like my husband like. You just seem very simple outdoors. That's very flattering comparison for me. I like him. We have the family barbecue is because I think you guys would love each other. I agree my kids. Probably we'll hang out but you know family could be my wife. Maybe exactly so you know. We have a lot of women listeners on here and I always think of like an. I'm trying to think of the right question to ask about like women tuning into football because I mean we're lucky we were are raised in it. Understand it as well but I always like I wonder from a football players perspective of like how can women be more involved so I'll tell you it was health. Football fantasy football play fantasy football. My wife understand her douse a football coach for thirty five years in high school so she understands it. She's trying to get me play fantasy and I'm doing but I'm doing this year. She was my whole team from me. She does everything I don't know how to. I'm not a good phone. You can text takes you back stuff. I'm not liked APP SMART. I guess anyway I think physical ball is a way to get women involved because it makes you more interested in the Games. You don't have to really know what's going on yeah just players and you're not so much involved with one team players all over the league that there's not one referee's journal that this woman referee Soccer Walker right that was a big thing for even in wrestling football I think last year I may be wrong. I'm not sure I know I know for sure. There was one last year but let's see where I heard a hair up under her hat. So you can't see your hair. I definitely saw a couple of times last year but research to Google search that you'll find recall cool. Draft quarterback was been rothlisberger concern. I I go back. I took was Aaron Rodgers by played. Ben The first week so I thought he would do better because air was playing the bears. I don't WanNa play earning the bears. The bears are really good on defense concepts a fancy football but I'm not like a huge like semi lineup every week and make sure I'd do it on a certain date. Remember really into it and then it's just so hard for me to remember to switch team because of Thursday night football the Great Ya oh I love it always would be like the time Thursday night we come. I go H my fantasy team so it should offer my team in your stuck with from last week and someplace could have a by then. You can't send him again but I love Thursday night games. I play a lot you guys don't like him because it's a short week. I loved it because you have three day weekend. Oh yeah there's tended off before you play again that week. You may suffer a little bit but your game plan so short short going into the game. You just practice. You didn't put pads on the week. It's just quick play on Thursday and hopefully you win. You have three weekend Sunday nights. I hated night games. Yeah them all day long to play that on the road you got back three or four in the morning and then you had to get rid Tuesday. Was Your Day off Wednesday. Do you have a short week for Sunday. You know I just didn't like playing twelve o'clock game every Sunday at the happiest guy ever yeah that makes sense because I think of when we played soccer like I loved morning games yeah but then I got used to the night because a wrestler everything Tuesday night when I made this comeback recently to fight Rhonda that was hard on me because I took so much time off was in bed all the time at nine o'clock and then all of a sudden I was going out to matches at nine thirty and I'm like Oh. My Gosh honestly yes. I believe your body into a certain regimen your mind stone you go to bed. Go to bed. When you have kids. It tells you nine. PM is like midnight the need to be sleep by nine forty five eight thirty anymore. 'cause I'm all grown now but they've nine thirty in bed sums wrong. I'm doing something should be doing. I agree agree to. I feel that way now too. Did you have a special diet when you're like in season. Did you have strict diets. I like Soham so curious. Here's like a football on the worst guy to ask because I everything I just want an calories when you play and I don't do it now but I still terrible right now. no. I drink cokes Dr Pepper. I really I mean luckily my fifth year. We had a guy come in who knew how to eat and I didn't strength coach Rusty Jones Stud but until he got there I had no idea I mean everything McDonalds for lunch. It was horrible and they never checked to guys like it was only six or seven so it didn't matter under six so it wasn't that long. It's a good metabolism yeah. I'm I'm looking at you now and you don't have a dad bought at all football for seven years. You're in incredible shape riding my bike mountain bike mountain bike. I need to get into today. Mountain biking has just changed my workouts alright twenty twenty five miles a day and I love it takes two hours in the mount and it's like therapy I put my headphones on and just pedal and he goes goes you want to or is not hard you want to it's just fun. That's awesome. Do you still last thought maybe two days a week but that's a good workout like everything is done retired. Lifting Weiss has been twenty five minutes long. That's all super sets everything. I'm no more heavyweight. Don't go over twenty-five bench anymore. They do squats on why I'll have to let this important. Let's name was the pressure on my back in easy more so I try and do curls what but I can. I do the same ad move every day. I get a forty five pound weight and you cite. APPS buddy makes fun of because that's all I ever do for APPS. Oh my Gosh I love that. I want to be on the Brian Urlacher fitness plan but yes thank you for coming all right. 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Week's abate was should should you design an engagement ring with your significant other or does that ruin the surprise so we got the results and you guys all think it's. GonNa ruin the sobriety yet I have to say the percentages were closed so it was like fifty six to forty four so it was a close race but yeah. I want a guy now so you guys is I mean I designed. My Ring didn't change anything but I get it. If you want to summarize I think you know with the fun part of an engagement is and I think obviously majority of the people feel eldest two. It's been surprised and seeing what your love on creates I was. Still you know what we're not going to debate about it again because we need to beat Ooh. Let's hear it and I you know what what I like debating about this because we all heard what Brian Urlacher said earlier what gets people into watching football fantasy football and I have to say fantasy hennessy football has become such a big part of NFL college like it makes sports a lot of fun and it gets women involved and people who aren't into football so I thought it'd be fine if we debated. Should you root for your fantasy team or your L. Favorite team and if you're not hit with it are l. means in real life. Okay so you're Kinda on the same site here we both feel that no matter what you have to root for your team but now we grew diehard philly fans it's roots and our blood our grandfather so we feel rl yes but I do see how people have become more involved in football because of fantasy so I get both sides. Okay well then you're. GonNa Debate for fantasy team. I'M GONNA debate for the I. R. L. Team and we'll see we'll see who wins right you guys so if you're new to our podcast the rules of our debate are that we each have thirty seconds to make an opening statement for our side of the issue then we have two minutes for a final arguments free for all all right. Nicole who's going I. I say the IRO was first. Okay because we're the real for real will we don't jump on band wagons. Let me get the clock all right. Go Okay first of all we all hate people who jump on the bandwagon you rooting for your fantasy see Tim. You're jumping on the bandwagon. You should sit here. Iro Why your IRA team because its roots. It's hard. It's what you are made up of pretty not much of your die hard football fan. It's your DNA. It's your culture. It's your city and for you. Turn your back on them for fantasy which probably means because because of money or wanting to be a winner. It's shameful. It's so shameful soon. Obama's mercer weren't finished. You're never fin- ah whatever can wait to hear this ready. Go so the one thing I've noticed about fantasy football is way more people are involved opt and watching the sport and when the one thing I love is when I actually do see people sitting and watching their IRL team their favorite team but then don't click to other games aims and they start to know other players because they do care because they want their fantasy team to win plus. Yeah people make some money but I know more women who are truly more involved in football because they have a fantasy football team like women. Now are watching like five to sixteen. Don't try to still Brian. Urlacher words known your debate bad Brian Urlacher and I have the same views and whatever well let's put two minutes on the clock all right here we go and do you realize when we talk about football. We get like intense okay. We do first of all all team in real life like that's blood bree. How do you turn your back on your IRA but not everyone has an L. team so now people were given the opportunity. If they weren't raised around football now they can fall in love with football a different way. Why not make a bigger yeah but I feel like even if you weren't into football you still have an Ireland eighteen because now you're in a fantasy would city. These people live in a city people loved fantasy but when you hire L. team. Nothing's more fun when you go to the bar. Everyone's like yeah cheesehead. We're packer. Fans is love and his bond. I talked. This is not all about you so listen. I think it's really cool that people every week it will use their brains and go wait. How will this player do something for me. Will that play or do something for me. They put these teams together. They have to put a lot of thought to it. I think it's really cool and I think it's cool to Kinda. Look outside your green no other player. How many jerseys do you have team. Are they. All my jerseys or green they they bleed the Philadelphia Eagles exactly my point so do all these people just have ten to twenty jerseys idea but it makes Fantasy Football Jersey unless you have a team team fantasy football team which Brian I were the bearded ladies broker all Jersey represents it all. That's like our medals so you're saying is football. Fans hands at strictly like fantasy which they why should route. You could play fantasy but you root. It's who you root for you hired. L. Shouldn't be watching other eight throw. Hey My way you think we're saying who do you root for. Watch all the Games you want. You never turn your back on your team. That's what I'm saying but what if they're about to win some big big money and they need their quarterback big brought into money. Blood isn't made money blades made of love how great you can make and you have to have that. You're out. I'm just curious to hear what the world has to say all right so you guys. What do you think your real team or. Can you also go well you. I know don't try to throw in words. You're five seconds over and whatever I don't know I feel like I won this one well. We'll see all right everyone so let's see who the winner of this debates going to be. Is it going GONNA be bree. Who says you should root for your fantasy team or me. Who says you should do for your. Ira L. team. We will post a poll on I. G. For you to vote and we will will reveal the winner in next week's episode. I can't wait to see either. Okay you guys so now. It's time for a brand new segment. Were so obsessed with this segment. It's it's time for deer Bellas. Welcome back to our new segment dear Bellas where we give Bella style advice to our listeners because who needs abby right when you have to Bala exactly okay you guys. We had such a blast answering these questions last week so we're going to do an extra one this week all right first question. High Bellas. My name is Keila. I am from North Carolina. I I am a full-time worker but I also have to really mean and beautiful toddlers little girls. I'm also married. and my question is for free. I know you're a mom and I know you guys like to joke about it on the podcast all the time but how do you keep up being you know really present and your daughter's life but also being married for five years and kind of keeping that a romance alive your husband but also being like a boss ass bitch and running all of your different companies and that kind of thing so. I would love to know how you balance that a little bit but definitely how you stay present with Birdie okay. Thanks so much high Keila. Oh my Gosh I love your question and I love that you called me. A boss boss ass bitch. That was amazing so it's actually interesting because I always make a priority list like what are my priorities in my life so birdies obviously number one eight saying my marriage is number two but let's let's be honest when your mom you'd think like my kid is everything then marriage than business but but there was definitely a time where I felt like I had zero balance and you know Nicole Lapin hit on it a couple of episodes ago but is not being afraid to say no like like I just have to at times think to myself. Okay breed this month. What's important and I always make sure that I give Birdie every day. We do an activity whether it's painting coloring going swimming or even going to a movie like we do always something fun. I always try to make her feel my presence. I mean I'm also lucky because I work from home and travel with her so I'm blessed in that way but you know Brian. I we just you know during nap time or when Birdie goes to sleep. We really have to tell ourselves like okay. We really need to connect right now and he and I had this summer had this big talk where like well we haven't connected for for months and it does it makes you like best friends and your marriage instead of lovers and we're just like how what is it we need to connect with and we just had a really deep talk and I think that's important important for marriage and then we start putting activities together when bird goes down what will connect us because so much was him going to his book we go into my nut flex so you know just having that communication the honesty in marriage and then you know. I am I'm a career woman and my businesses Meena Watt and because they mean a lot means sacrifice sleep I was a girl who loves asleep ten hours before he became a mom but for me. I knew to be a part of it. All I was going to have to sacrifice that so unfortunately at times I'm on phone calls till ten. PM or answering emails are waking up earlier but you just got to write down your list and you just really got to think about things that are really important. Your life and the things that are just is taken up way too much energy. I definitely will tell you don't have the biggest social life but that's okay because my marriage Birdie and my businesses. They're all fun and I I love him so phil social to me so I hope that helped Quila and I'm sure you are an amazing mother and a boss ass bitch as well all right. Let's hear the next question and Bella my name is Morgan. so basically. I just wanted to ask you guys. What is something that you that helped you really get through the hardships in life and are having time and having a really tough time with my life lately. Just a lot of things have been really getting me down and there's a lot of obstacles so I just don't know what is something that really helps. The two of you strive to be great and conquer everything that you base. Thank you so much I'm Morgan so first of all. I just want you to know that s Bellas are going to keep you in our thoughts and prayers and we hope whatever it is you are going through that you fight through it. Just remember you are stronger than you think and I'm you know I have to say I one thing that can help you overcome at one thing that I've always been very lucky with. Is I have an amazing support team. I have bree who has always been my rock and lets me vent to to her. Lets me tell her the same story of sadness a thousand times because sometimes you need to have that repetition so fully just leaves your heart and soul so so find that support system whether it's your parents your best friend's your siblings a life coach. I have to say I brought a life coach into my life. I talk to her once a week and she makes me feel so free and light and I think that's the most important thing when you're going through something. It's feeling green light because we'll can carry so much sadness and depression. It gets heavy so having a life. Coach therapist is something that's really really helpful. Helpful also meditation you would be shocked and I get it. Sometimes meditation can be really inconvenient because we wake up. We want to have her coffee. We WanNa start her day okay and by the time we get back home. We're so tired that we don't even want to do. Let's say a workout sometimes. We don't even WanNa Cook Dinner. We just WANNA get in bed. Maybe watching net flicks make make meditation a priority because meditation is just so healthy for the mind body and soul especially when you're going through something I really love and I always say his name wrong. Deepak Chopra him and to Oprah have an APP and that helped me so much also eckhart totally his book. The power now is incredible and I had to say I mean. There's a reason why they made self help books. You're not alone so when when you read other people's stories and how they overcame it helps so much so those are the tools that I've used to overcome also if social media does not make you feel good. Get off of of it for a bit. I went on a social media. Detox is going through the toughest stuff in my life that helped me so so much and I'll let breach jump in but but for me it's I'm doing everything that I love. I have a vision board. I have started vision board since I've been eighteen years old. I'm on my third one and every morning and night. I look at everything that I truly want to do. I look at my bucket list. I look at things that I know I could create things that I wanna do when I retire. Sometimes they happen earlier and sometimes I know the hyphen later but I feel like I work on my vision in my passion every day and that helps me conquer things because those are the things I truly want exactly luckily and not because we're twins but everything. Nicole said I would agree with and I do so we wish you luck Morgan. We love you and that was a really strong and Morgan Morgan. Something I told artem recently is I something I did for so long. As when I was trying to walk forward I kept looking back and try to do that in real life you can't you're. GonNa hit a wall. You're going to do something. Harmful always look forward because guess what what's back. That's in the past. That won't change anything that it has been done can be undone but that's when you're walking forward love that so always remember to walk forward and never looked back. Yes all right Morgan and know that your Bell is love you you we are here for you and we are thinking about you and praying for you so we hope you overcome it and conquer anything you. WanNa do right bree ready for the next and last question instant yes. Let's hear it pain again breathe. This is Lauren I'm just calling for some fashion advice so I love the bird maybe line. I've got a couple of pieces from you guys. but what. I'm wondering is ready. You guys shop so I mean obviously got tons of designer stuff but if you're just looking to not break the budget what are your go to brands go to places and bree for Verdy like where. Where are you finding clothes for her. I've always been the kind of person that kind of mixes up some more high quality items with something. I find at target but I wanNA know like where you guys going so thanks for the advice Lauren. I liked that question fashion so I'll start with birdies so birdie. I'm actually really big instagram shopper with her I find all these mommy owned brands or like their local brands brands and it's just crazy what these like little boutiques will have and so. I usually always order stuff from instagram shops. It's crazy but I always find like the Nita stuff and let's be honest target some really cute stuff for Taj baby and they grow so fast they spill everything on it so I do kinda mix it up with that and I bought and Birdie a couple of designer stuff analysis biggest mistake because they grow too fast and it gets stained like so so well and Lauren for me. I have to say so where I like to get a lot of my high end stuff. Is I go to shop on four to lot. F W R D dot Com. I'm obsessed obsessed with that model East Walker. She puts she just pairs a lot of amazing designer brands stuff together and also a big shopper shopper and Saks and barneys but I'm like you. I like to pair designer with affordable brands and I've always been obsessed with free people's free movement line. I get a lot of my amazing basic tanks and crops and pants from them. also Brandy Melville like she has such good basic the pieces I get a lot from there and for myself I'd have to say like I'm really big at heading up. nordstroms anthropology and free people lake take. I feel like any time ago those three spots. You can never go wrong. There's always a sale going on and you can find little pieces and if I do designer I head up intermix. Yeah owner mixes good shopper today. We spent a little too much money. We were at vintage by misty you as if you're in a vintage and you're into designer vintage I got her. I G oh my Miley. Cyrus wore one of her watches but I just dropped way too much money their in him but I have to say my g coming up. You is are going to be proud. It's GonNa look good because some of the pieces I got from her. Are Truly amazing. Pieces see slower great question because I'm the same. I always wonder people's fashion worthy of what they do. Oh and you know what else I have to say what has good genes that are affordable pretty little things and they fit great. Those are a lot of the genes I've been wearing. That's great. They're like thirty bucks can't beat that no all right well. Thank you you everyone for your calls and thank you so much for the three questions today Morgan Keila Lauren. We absolutely love having you call in so bell army. If you you want a chance to hear from US anything from relationships to business life to mom life or whatever else you want advice on. Give us a call at eight three three Q Bellas yes and now it's time for Bala brains as always Bella brains hosted by my husband. WWe superstar Daniel Bryan Brea except when it's hosted by my man on dancer Foodie builder extraordinaire artem should mid Sieve Nicole owes blood to be back for another addition of collaborate artem. We always love having you and your kilo accent back. Ok everyone's so bella brains as the hilarious weekly game show that is hosted today by my artem and if you don't know Bella brains as where one twin leaves the room while the other twin is ask them questions and we keep score to see who has the stronger girl Bella brain as we're creepy tracker wends each week and the I wanNA fight wins gets a bottle of dom paid for by the loser and the current score score is zero to one bringing the lead. Whatever bright whatever bree you've been on such a role lately? I can't stand it. I know bree continue winning streak always Nicole going to break it. Let's find out it's time for Dalit race. Bella Bella brains okay who's leaving the room. I have really the first because she needs to go. Feed Birdie and Winston. Come on okay alright artem. You know what I love. It's like Green. I talk we're like the cha-cha and then you come in like the Argentine Tango Collect Mollica Smooth Foxtrot something I'll take are Kinda like like loud your voice it gets like more genteel smooth and slow and oh it is okay then. You're like a foxtrot okay all right ready. We are ready for this swig Bella brains. I'M GONNA ask you question about China. Uh Brian's in China right now yeah got a topic. Brian usually host Bella brain so I decided to pay a tribute to Brian and the Chinese. Do you worry about him. Okay so anyway ready first question. I am what is the capital of China. Oh my Gosh Hongkong nope Shanghai. Nope hope one more Beijing Sing Ding Ding Ding Ding Beijing is the one okay question number two in what a year China held last Olympics. Oh Wow two thousand eight. Yes it is the one that phrase the two thousand and eight question but you got it so I guess my question was correct and the last question is and this is going to be live with more challenging one but I feel like I'm going to get in because I'm well. It's true I hope I hope you get it now. Now secretly rooting for you okay so how long is the wall of China. Oh Oh wow that's a good question in miles mile okay fifty miles an hour through guesses one hundred miles wrong. Do we get harder colder anything. No don't get hot or cold one hundred and fifty miles. I'm just kidding twenty. Is That your final answer twenty miles my I finally answered okay. We're GONNA keep that Hugh who is closer to the meal the member we only get three guesses. You got four. No I didn't fine. I have to play by so we'll get three. Oh okay you right back with Brie with I. Hey Bella Army so let's talk about everyone's favorite not year. The holidays really Nicole Jabre okay. I know it's early but listen up. 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I just love companies with purpose so bellarmine. If you are ready to help some kids out and get your photo ready pretty smile by the holidays go to Candidate C. O. Dot Com slash spell as and use Code Fellas to get seventy five dollars off. That's candid Co Dot Com Slash Balas Code ballots for seventy five dollars off candid co dot com slash Balas Code Balas. Should I be nervous at this time. Actually I've made it really easy. Okay so because Brian is not here to host it decided to pay tribute to Brian and he's in China China so all this question's. GonNa be based about China. ooh Okay. I feel like I know nothing. Welcome rush me like okay purse question breezy. What is the capital of China Shanghai. No two more go ahead. Oh God I know what that face means uh-huh okay. There's a time lament wait. I know other cities China inch on say Tokyo Japan ten more seconds guesses yeah but she was the head. Oh you said no hints your hands at all okay fine. Shanghai's the only place I know okay. That's IT E. You sure this really offing else nothing there okay. This is getting late you. It's a tip of my tongue but I can't think right now. Okay what is it. I'll just take an eat okay. It's Badri and Oh my gosh I know Beijing Hong Kong. How did you Hong. Oh my God. You Guys Ma brain right now so then t in Hong Kong it's China okay. I'm I'm not gonNA argue with you all right question number two in what year China beheld last Olympics wasn't it just recently twenty twenty eighteen th nope 2017 one more guess that wasn't China Yeah. I just saw one more gas. US Twenty Twelve in two thousand eight S. Did you get that right right yeah by the way I got Beijing and two thousand eight rate whatever you're already loser but let's see what she wants on this last one last question is and this is the harder one one how long is a wall of China the Great Wall China trying to host it just sitting on a bench tape. It's a Great Wall. We can't forget how great it is. It is great all right well I guess. Is You know my mouth year one hundred miles you know house where my guesses fifty miles was one of my kids and actually we did for in this one twenty miles. Oh Oh my gosh. Are you serious. I guess she's GonNa say. He's actually fifteen miles so no it's actually thirteen miles long. Yes I want that brings. The current core to one to one year. Chen is almost sad whatever I can't. I can't wait for Brian. Hey that Beijing so we'll be back next week for another dish Nov Bella Bella brains Bella brains. I think you artem for hosting another amazing dishing. A Bella brains goodness he is so cute uh-huh and so smart but now it's time for Bella Army. QNA right everyone as always tweet at Bella the twins with the Hashtag Bellas podcast. We might pick your question to answer on the show this week. We're answering a tweet from at Jillian to me. ACC DOC yes. Dak- last night did not ruin your last name so she writes Bella twins. Have you seen glow on net flex. If so what are your thoughts I led the podcast. Hashtag bows podcast Hashtag Nikki Bella has tech Brie Bella well. I have have to say Jillian. I'm obsessed with glow. I actually I binge watch it. I probably watch it within four days. I watched season one. I just haven't had time to catch up but I mean I just loved seeing Kia seen cong- on there and I love the fact that Chabot is the one that trains everyone so for some of you that don't know glow actually has some professional wrestlers that we've wrestled with as well as their trainer who literally trained all those actresses he used to wrestle what does he was like a huge inspiration to his name's travel guerrero so it's just fun knowing like the. WB family loud that's part of Glo totally and it's you know there's a lot artist. I watch Anglo that I can really relate to. which is the just how some of the women got into wrestling some of this stuff you still wet? It's it's it's fun and I love the costumes costumes. It's fun to watch that era. You know what I mean. Bad guys verse the Goodguys Storytelling Yeah so we're big fans are and as we wrap rap battle them close throws even though they beat us they damn actresses. I was so nervous with that but yes we do. We we do love glow and we just let it brings such amazing recognition of women's wrestling so great question. Jillian and you know what we're GONNA do a bonus question because we had an amazing mazing guests today we had Brian Urlacher. I mean talk about an all star from the Chicago Bears Hall of Famer so we gotta do a football question right. That's cool all right so from at Daniel B four nine seven one three nine zero three. What was that your phone number. That must be all right. Daniel Daniel ask you guys are so cute Nikki but I have a question for next podcast with football season around the corner and girls being such big eagles fans. 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Hour 3 - Mark Schlereth (10-14-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

47:33 min | 1 year ago

Hour 3 - Mark Schlereth (10-14-19)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one sports net production available on apple podcast and podcast wine as always a big thank you for getting to the show we'd like to ask a small but very important favor of you it'll only take a few minutes and if you're one of the first people to do it podcast one we'll make it worth your time we need you to complete a short sir answer some questions and potentially make some money along the way from all of us here at podcast one thank you for being a dedicated listener make refreshing changes throughout your home this fall and saved ED stretch cowboys lost three in a row in this is where we said Oh well they haven't played anybody the jets aren't anybody and they lost to them from team okay I just think that it all it's GonNa take let's say the niners have two losses back to back losses kings and kirk cousins he's thrown six touchdown passes in the last two weeks they blow out the eagles in all of a sudden we're going oh vikings look like super bowl contenders now gene that loses this week like if you don't win you're not making the playoffs if you do win then you're probably winning the division like it's really hard to handicap these teams right now because you have the eagles they lost to Minnesota everything looks good here's Kirk cousins after yesterday's performance we must dixie on that post at the AH free money it's a win win our shows are supported by advertisers so filling this out will really help us catered to the needs of you as a loyal listener go to podcast one dot com site survey 'cause it's not even midseason yet and we're still in everybody's saying the same thing well they got injuries tell me team that doesn't have injuries but some more than others Dan Patrick Hope you had a great weekend everybody final hour of this Monday show Dan in the Danettes Dan Patrick Show we've chopped it up a little bit about the cowboys situation soon have on your to do list do it right for less start with lowes appliance offer valid through ten twenty three us only broadcasting from the Mercedes man this is the half thought about apologize into but apparently that's not the way to go around here so I guess my days apologizing to people over all right that's funny the eagles the rams achieves the browns and you know this could all go away with a couple of wins remember a couple of weeks ago we're worried about the nine show your home's true colours new coat of paint save on top rated one coat paints from HGTV homeboy Sherwin Williams starting just thirty five ninety eight a gallon every day whatever project standdown with the Vikings until further notice as for the eagles they got the cowboys coming up dea feel like the team that wins this week or the and all of a sudden we ease off the niners a little bit or Seattle has a bad stra every one of these teams is going to have a bad stretch you know the question is how much city and lost these are the games that you know make or break your season with home field advantage but the Patriots Luke Falk and the jets Sam Darnold jets Wade start with lowes adnew appliances get deals like up to thirty five percents off select appliance special values including a twenty four point seven cubic foot whirlpools renshaw refrigerator just fifteen die you gotta buy some of the Patriots lost their offensive line in their hall of fame tight end and they're undefeated they played the biggest. JV schedule in the short win those games the cowboys lost to the jets win those games that is very you know the rams lost to Tampa Bay win those games the colts came to Kansas the I two hundred and fifty people who complete the survey we'll get a ten dollar gift card to Amazon Dot Com and two Grand Prize winners will be selected at random to get one hundred dollars Amazon gift card about that pig is Shawn Watson who's the MVP Shawn Watson played well Watson just the fourth quarterback in NFL history to start his team's first six games wins some touchdown passes to Dixie and everything is good digs. He doesn't one out of Minnesota apparently anymore Russell Wilson is he now the leading candidate for the MVP Wilson was an underdog to the browns align that didn't make much sense in hindsight watching finish the afternoon thirty or forty two to eighty ep right now Christian McCaffrey Russell Wilson Deshaun Watson I'm GonNa Guess Russell Wilson Russell Wilson should be let's put it that way I chiefs Kansas City chiefs go to Denver and that's not going to be easy either at night then they have the calling from Amsterdam another hint he loves South Carolina football any he sang the song hold my ham did anybody else celebrate Darius Rucker Hootie the blowfish joining us from Amsterdam did anybody else celebrates South Carolina's win against Georgia yes okay thank you yes mclovin yeah cowboy schedule you're saying you know they got eagles at giants Vikings in Dallas a good pass rush then they got Chicago Green Bay and Oakland chargers chargers are in trouble yes we have surprised caller a little hint he's Pittsburgh looked unbelievable last night defensively did the right things offensively and that's a charger team that is in trouble because I don't think there's more valuable player to his team the Russell Wilson that includes Mahomes that includes Christian McCaffrey in my opinion watching that team the last a two point every week probably so and also these russells unstoppable in the fourth but look look at the schedules here for the cowboys coming up by the way eight seven seven three DP show if you'd like to Philip Rivers got hounded he got roughed up and then you got four really good pass rushing teams on the schedule and the next month Tennessee's got of the season with a passer rating of at least one hundred he joins Carson Palmer Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers Brady and Rogers both Ooh we just lost him in Amsterdam oh well you can disappear in Amsterdam a dangerous town I I know yeah with that South Carolina winning he hasn't had too many great memories to reflect on with Georgia football by the way golden road brewing places to go we'll get Darius Rucker back I did think of Darius watching that game I knew he was in Europe with the blowfish and I went I wonder if even gets to watch this other sports pubs one touchdown to throw a pair of interceptions he would have been helped out a whole lot more will fuller decided to bring his hands to the game but who's your packers at home Vikings at home than at Titans Ed chargers raiders at Patriots Broncos at home at bears charge sorry charges at home it just feels like a couple of these divisions if you win ten games like the AFC north it feels like the ravens of the browns and Pittsburgh looked awesome ars he got a VPN on his on his computer and we're we're like we got meet-and-greet like meet and greets in two minutes awesome and Vikings are not saying to you on the road at lines at patriots bills who are really good now ed bears tough Rams Eagles redskins that's not easy okay so well no no the the first two hours of the show I spent on just talking about South Carolina that was it I didn't talk about anybody else have you already thought the Makalu for we'll give your best and worst to the weekend we'll talk to mark sheriff slayeth did rams niners I believe fritzy full of years it's Russell Wilson yes mclovin is there a little bit of a sense at the seahawks are due or correction bees a win nothing but close games by one point he's back with us I D I can't I just called in your show and you talk about the chargers and the gamecocks Georgia I is this a sports socks tried I think they were trying to not make the two point conversion is that was was that a coupon it had to watch it from what the tour bus no we watched like we as the game ended we have to go on stage but we watched it in the dressing room time Oh this great video and look at you Oh yeah oh man are you excited so that's in when are you guys done in Europe we got too much we play off Manchester and Birmingham and we back home all right yes we tagline wings after a lot of pot the second south guy well we got two thousand tweets as Darius Data Brag did the Amsterdam like for you fairly back early won't be loading up on South Carolina be Florida I tell the boys I said a low and we'll see when you get back all right thank you you yes so we all you absolutely dude I'm looking at this video in the dressing room with all these people in over a by when you guys get back to the states absolutely I'm coming to you by you you have to quit I heard that I think getting of November and I remember when they said Hey we're going to do this reunion tour and I go oh that'd be cool you had a little small venues sudden I started looking at these venues I do you got back to back after damn shame I don't notice any buffalo wild wings earning yes I bet the buffalo wild wings would be great after some pot there you know can't beat the Redskins at all you know that Mark Dantonio huge concern until we can't beat the rest well did you see the two point conversion you guys yeah that's quite a crew you got there with look at you jumping around jump around jump around you wouldn't think we excellent are you willing to go through another year of this man if they're gonNa do what they're doing it that's the thing that gives me they're doing it like we that's the way it should be I spent I gave a lot of my time to come see you so at least you can do is come see me you you have a lot of your topic better ban no not at all would you say we're having ice cold heinekens right now I have a good lunch no coffee bill coffee shops all right what are you talking about I think I think you guys might stop he saw it was it was all I was watching it it's pretty funny did you is also you couldn't even go to a sports pub or anything you know like people go like we're taking the two okay let's talk the clamps kid they're gonNA have to do that limits one year and that was cool but it is interesting how some bands translate too big crowds like that in some don't like there's some bands that I was really looking forward to seeing and for some re- very way back just a couple of days off you know fairly bad so do you go to like coffee houses that are you know no no no no liberty to make the whatever wherever they play they make it smaller I saw them when they did the they had that heart as the stage and you could be the heart they they just have an ability to make an arena look smaller or feel more intimate the SEC festivals usually have pretty big crowd yeah like I went to Austin city Darius Rucker on the road with audio fish they played in front of a million people on this tour over one million people came out to watch them the place and there must it seemed like there was one hundred thousand people there and he every single one of them he just absolutely destroyed the place it was awesome and then one of the other headliners was kind of like okay this is in arenas that big feel but it's hard to see somebody when it's not because they wanna make money and you're going okay I got it I saw Woah you to in Boston and same thing it's just it's it's eighteen eighteen thousand the other clubs general admission the entire building and so it was really Kinda scary because people showed up hours and hours and advanced and I think it was in July so people were because it was generally mission what soldier field holds fifty five sixty thousand people were hours and hours in advance to get front row because it doesn't matter which paid everyone had said same ticket yeah I don't like being people got to watch me onstage though it was a win win for everybody apple have you guys ever seen a concert with like seventy or eighty thousand people like real big big venue and is it any good can you remember being over fifty thousand I guess I got Football Stadium Oh I saw you too and meadowlands but you to has an a b the fund translate yeah some get swallowed up by it yeah the employee I saw springsteen at soldier field when I was really honor order it was but I always thought you did a great job of sort of making that feel a little bit more intimate however they do that by the way Golden Road Brewing Summer is Oh to a big pink floyd I saw Zeppelin I saw they the stones and the who all in these you know I saw one of them in rupp arena and you know if we'd be North Carolina we'd probably be played for yeah of course run out I know what you know we got the heisman trophy winner and put the player of the year we're beaten Florida we're beating you heard it here right now everybody load up next week till next week we'll be Florida I'll be loaded up that's for sure but it will listen just that big wide open space it was like yeah they were good but then like that you're Kendrick Lamar was one of the headliners and he crushed absolutely crushed Asian bruise brewed to stand out you find mango card and we'll pup session available in all fifty states California inspired Golden Road Brewing fresh craft beer since truth for the entire year Gronk is gone I it almost feels like the Patriot fans being undefeated are still worried and I would be because at some point now they probably are going to have home field advantage throughout the playoffs if this continues to play out like we think it will they're just holding out hope Bronx GonNa come back because I don't know what are the options they have unless they bring back Antonio Brown and I don't see that happening yeah mclovin what about are these trade rumors yeah you know what I think that's as good as it's going to get there oh it is okay it's now yeah otherwise it'd be like five hundred tickets no I get it they're they're out to make money I'm just saying the experience is in his great when you're playing I don't know if it's stones or the who you know it's twenty four twenty five thousand people in there but when you see one of these bands in a smaller venue it's Pretty Damn Cool Twenty Eleven Casey in Buffalo joins US Casey Good morning what are you have forming hey deep coming in for my best in west of the weekend lack of a better description a game manager here he's not going to get those big plays and maybe that's that they're not going to be that high potent offense that we've come to see the season so pretty much I think they have to win out in order to claimed one seed and we're still the weekend has got to be for a house when I get to watch did you get to watch the game over in your we Patrick Davis it because they could run the football and if you do that and then all of a sudden you know they've they've reinvent themselves like what are we this year it's almost like they show up at trade slowly turning into fall and that means Golden Road brewers constantly experimenting with the freshest ingredients and they have a collection of rotating seasonal limited youth patriots fan so watching the news at home against the Texans. It's certainly my best I don't see New England losing more than two gains I have a lot more fans access if you play an eighty thousand seat you know he'll be able to say they saw no I get it greedy I think it's also a little fair to the fans thanks guys better than what they really are because when they leave the Patriots you know then you're like who was that guy I would look at the date solar left tackle and the giants left the Patriots and the giant it's a really reeling over that now but remember when they had the Super Bowl MVP why receive givens like Aj Green or Stefan Digs Emmanuel Sanders Minnesota you're not trading Stefan Digs Sanders Emmanuel Sanders Denver's back in June The Patriots offense they want to win the super bowl they're going to have to fix it and I don't really know what the answer is yeah it's going to be hard to do that thank you Casey they they normally do it I just don't see that offensive line getting better and here they are undefeated all right more phone calls we'll check in with the former offensive lineman the Denver Broncos Mark Act you know I'm just waiting you know if Harry comes back and he plays in how good is he I don't know they always say Brady makes you offensive line earth he called the Rams and the niners he all in on the niners what kind of concerns you see have about the rams so we'll talk some football with mark he'll join US coming up next twenty after the hour yeah uh he got hurt the not your say the offensive line is the bigger concern for me you know I just don't all those guys are back in the early part of the two thousand yeah but this guy won the Super Bowl Mvp for the Patriots did you vote Kinloch so it's going to be a really great season for the game go hey you had a great weekend when you think about it South Carolina one in the dolphins lost in campaign belichick decides what kind of team they're going to be and they decided they're going to be a defensive minded team this year and Brady is going to be for the every year we just assume bill belichick will get it right but look at all those Lyman Denny Trade for two offensive linemen prior to the start of the season you lose your center and ax here's an idea let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance the good thing you don't have to drop off or pick up anything all you have to do is go to this is the Dan Patrick show everybody's got to do this I get one for my wife drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk figure out something to get out of the house so I can relate I'm almost sure he was receiver Yeah Oh Dan Branch the branch yeah there you go yeah so dion branch and then he went to Seattle I believe and then we forgot about it just may be the most rewarding thing on your to do list today that's Geico Dot Com support for the Dan Patrick Show podcast comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans I don't know that Brady has way making them better I just don't know if he has that capability he can make them better if his offensive line was better and at this process it's awesome exactly what you get with rocket mortgage by quicken loans their team of mortgage experts obsessed with finding a better way which means that their number one goal may combine process smoother for you better by getting so fast so he can make up for that in the past he's made up but who is he throwing it to right that's why you need and I know he he normally just help millions of Americans achieve their dream of home ownership and they're going to help you visit rocketmortgage dot com slash Jan take the first step toward the home of your dreams equal housing lender licensed in all fifty states at the garden you'll see this deal go okay not the olive garden the real ones Yeah Madison Square Garden but I just realized that it meant a week from tomorrow the be good to talk to Him we'll talk to mark sheriff who called the niners and the Rams Game Marcus Mariota talked about his performance yesterday no patent patent no no Triborough no I thought David David Pan MLS consumer access dot Org number three zero three zero rocket mortgage by quicken loans rocket mortgage by quicken loans push-button get mortgage go dot com and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance you like extra money in your pocket do you like not having to drive somewhere to pick something up this is a way to do it with industry leading online lending technology developed in the heart of Detroit rocket mortgage is changing the game it's an award-winning client service and support every step of the way quickly it make refreshing changes throughout your home this fall and save by starting with lows adnew appliances and get deals like up to thirty five percent off select appliance special values including twenty four Dan Patrick Show brought to you by Mercedes MGB prepared for whatever comes your way the all new gt four door coupe. Because life is a race vizier local dealership for Whole lot of money on here you got an all pro tight end I just said I need to see Jimmy Garoppolo do it in a big time situation that's that was my big question Mark Day where he got benched and Ryan Tannehill came in here's Mario don't feel great you know coach made a decision and he's GonNa make it as a special team so you know I respected I don't know of anybody said they're in a rebuilding year because if you're in a rebuilding year after you got how many number one draft picks on that defense they are you got a quarterback you spent ask Dr Today at some people say when is Reggie Miller Back Reggie is back a week from tomorrow I believe I think Reggie's back calling US pretenders in the beginning calls pretenders now call us pretenders the whole time because you gotta you gotta be that way you don't get to go hindsight is twenty twenty with this every year you know what I mean survey because the information you gave us can help make things better for the show and you as a listener just go to podcast one dot com slash survey and everything will be right there for you that's podcast one dot com slash service and seven cubic foot whirlpools renshaw refrigerator to fifteen ninety-nine show your home true colours for the new coat of paint save on top rated one coat paints from HGTV home I show him Williams get to March Laura he had the niners the rams here's Richard Sherman he's got a message for all of you haters or all of us haters out there stick to your guns if you were he's home is so much more than a house its own little slice of heaven that's why when you find the perfect place for you and your family getting a mortgage shouldn't get away imagine how it feels to have an award-winning team by her side through every starting at just thirty five ninety eight a gallon every day whatever projects you have on your to do list dewitt ride for less start with lowes appliance for valid for ten twenty three US only the faithful continue to believe in continue to be humble we're going to give you guys a good show we're gonNA fight US okay all righty those words may come back to haunt him but it's entertaining by Richard Sherman stick to your worst did he guns we're we're terrible team we're not we don't have enough talent we're just you know on a rebuilding year etc etc whatever the case may be whatever your word was please stick to it for those who believed in weren't happy when we lose nobody's happy and we want guys at WanNa play was he saying that doesn't WanNa play that'd be interesting before we and just try to be there for run here's his head coach Mike rebel on benching Morioka he certainly wasn't happy any any of us in the meantime where we get it's like going into overtime and they wanted to go do the meagrely we here and he wins I think he's one thirteen fifteen starts marks Lara was on the call with Dick Stockton yesterday called in this game he joins us now mark? How're you I'm good if there's anybody that knows pretending it's Richard for saying that Baker Mayfield shaking so he's an expert on defense and figure them out have defenses figured out the rams well to a degree one of the things that's happened to the rams is it'd be in my mind one of the best coaches in the NFL and I think what separates him is he understands all twenty two and the problem hope and and part of that is because they've got some new pieces some new components and and obviously they haven't figured out exactly how to adjust to the way the defensive fronts and destroy it so you go back to last season Detroit it some Chicago did it S- and then you know the masterclass was the Patriots and there's been a lot of cut and paste eighteen plants from the Patriots in the Super Bowl where they held the rams down to three points a Lotta cut and paste off of that stuff to to kind of shut down at the jet sweep and some of that allusion of complexity that has been the rams the rams were able to dictate for several years offensively to defenses and right now that's GonNa do one thing and then they have to adjust on the sideline they certainly haven't adjusted as well over the course of of this season as you would a good football team they control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball they're one of the most unique teams when it comes to run the ball I think Charles Shanahan as proven they're dictating to the rams defense dictating the rams and so that's been a change I think one of the other things that has happened to the rams as they lost two of their starting on that Jimmy Garoppolo has to prove to me that he can stay healthy was my biggest issue with Jimmy but there are there are really good football team there's no question about that as many years as wide we're going to do it and then how it's going to benefit you in the long run so I think he gets buying were a lot other coaches don't get the same buy in sure so they're getting on a consistent basis who's your MVP at this point guy I you know I probably put it with Russell Wilson some of the things that everybody's just taking a piece of that game plan from the New England patriots and just kind of put it in so they work all week about preparing to play a defense there's there's kind of a perfect storm here if you will of what they're facing is something that they they like I said that they haven't prepared for during the week because played and you know it doesn't take long for the League or defensive coordinators to get a book on offenses or vice versa you know offensive coordinator did a book on a d their film to prepare Dan so I watched what they have done defensively I watch what they've done in the run game and so I knew that this is the issues that every position has and I think he does a great job of telling his people and telling his players what we're GONNA do but more important battle seahawks what he needs to that offense is probably if you're breaking it down as most valuable he's probably there's nobody more valuable to their football team than Russell awesome wine and they replaced them with players that aren't as good and that are young and aren't as experienced and that's hurt them a little bit as well so based on on the way they though like this this team is there a good football team and I I'm like you in Wilson is the Seattle Seahawks who's the second best team in the AFC yeah if I put it up to a player's vote and I said you could vote for get rid of instant replay get rid of it completely or keep it as is instant replay figure it out right and I think it's created guys who are less sure of themselves guys who are less demonstrative and then I think you're asking them to do things that are physically impossible to do so I think all those things kind of add up and it slows down the game I mean hell every how do you think the players would vote get rid of it yeah I just that's my feeling mark because I have a chance to replay eh the replay and they're still getting things wrong and I don't I just don't understand that that it feels like they don't want to embarrass the officials they have to know this is bad for business there's no flow to a game anymore and it didn't get better we overreacted to the miscall and the saints game just one game to go two and four and it feels to me like they're still in this playoff on there in this they play Kansas City on Thursday night this Thursday night they win ah it feels like Houston to me right now probably the second best team you know I like every team is in it how many times do you think you got called for holding in your career probably less than a dozen really in the the cowboys jets game yesterday in the final drive I think there were six or seven consecutive penalties and just went at at some point eating ticket or do you just shut up well I would I would talk my way out of it before actually before the game I used to go to the umpire every game well I've always said this one they put in his debris play and then they tell they officials hey make sure you swallow your whistles and is blatant we've seen some blatant pass interference oh pi or DPI's that are called they go back and you think there's no way this is going to be upheld that's that's why we're here and and I just I don't think they've made the product better this year they made it worse I think it will go away and and by the way like every time you use every time there's a big play every time there's an explosive play the first thing I do is I check my monitor after I after we're done calling the play looking for a flat you know the officials essentially are being sold like you like we're not going to overrule you anymore I mean that's that's where we are right now so even and be like listen dude they're bigger faster stronger than you realize dad right and so then like listen I am going to hold I I am he is that is done no you know every down situation but the second chance players or the second reaction ways what he means to the that mistakes are part of it and and the best teams are win yeah we keep thinking maybe offensive and defensive linemen wearing mittens and because there there was a moment yes Dan and I live by this and I'm old office of Lima but don't can't help right if you get held you suck don't get held that's reviewable that one's not reviewable that's reviewable but that one's not and we can't reverse that one because I'm just like just scrap all the whole thing let's just play the game and just understand like whenever I'd feel bad about Oh my surgeries all I do I'd run into slayer at the ESPN and then he would tell me all the knee surgeries he had aren't you the whole thing is somewhat of a debacle but listen holding happens as long as it's away from the play who cares I my theory is that yeah that's pretty good yeah you know I mean I probably average one or two one wow I want a year I think I had because I had a couple of days is it just me or getting goofy goofy your Monday morning if you missed any of our interviews any week from the Mercedes in your hands are a little outside warning warning Oh yeah all the time I talk to Levy with this wind should best worse to the weekend hey DP my best and worst was of course South Carolina winning against Georgia loved it about worst Wasco I'm going to hold on every single play but my hands will be inside because my hands are great and they'll be inside and I go you cannot throw a flag on that that was a shocker that one was a shocker 'cause I thought Georgia was talented enough to beat Alabama or Clemson and it wasn't even featured rounds fan started to panic now I don't know about you kinda room for to lose every game what are the sixteen teams and they have seen you're all in it everybody's still got a chance to make the playoffs a week six were through and it seems like and Broncos is all my family and friends in Georgia fans all went ghost after running their mouth four games haven't heard a word not even my brother Gaiman there one game out of first place in their division it seems like everybody's in it we're talking to mark's Lara's Fox sports NFL analyst three times Super Bowl champ is there a flag what's going to happen is there a penalty what's going on and there's a bunch of things like I keep getting these rules where well you can't you can't review that one hitting me actually worked pretty well you know I mean for the most part the warning sometimes like he's a little bit outside on that who amount right now probably will not after that comment always great to talk to you enjoyed listening to I did not watch any of the redskins dolphins game I just I couldn't and I watched the highlights the replay two point I five TV's was the redskins Dolphin and they wouldn't change it well you didn't get a great finish there but thanks for the phone call Dakota Demand Cave go to the Dan Patrick Show App where you can watch and listen from inside the Mercedes 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Driving Performance Tony in South Carolina joins US hey tony like did he need the vote of confidence he was he gonna he he played so much better because you said he's our started the rest of the year and then you bench him yes we go ahead and they said they're going back to them but it's it's hard to tell what's going on I mean come on if you can't do well against Washington cancer almost beat Seattle in Seattle Aj Green GonNa play again maybe next week he's practicing fully by that's a rally cry we're not as bad as a dolphin they don't say a quarterback has the starting job the rest of the year in a situation like that say Joshua starting against Washington that's all so that's where it was pretty crazy worse than the weekend would have to be that a local sports bar Sunday and there were some redskins and Dolphin Fan so three golden goal years I think in my six years in Denver at six holden goals could you ever talk your way out like you know with a police officer talk in your way out of this we all are wonderful sponsors that helped make this show possible thank you for downloading subscribing and of course supporting and now back to the show make refreshing changes uh-huh and then you know they they don't they uphold it anybody they're like yeah well you're gonNA scrap pile listen the end anyhow so we're not going to overturn anything I cast one dot com hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all our great sponsors and all of you great listeners for supporting this podcast we certainly couldn't do without either of you and I wanted to remind you that you can support our sponsors by going to our show page podcast one dot com clicking on the support this podcast button and they the big game although the Bengals the Basil's don't feel as bad as the dolphins oh no because Asian and all of that and then you know Josh Rosen? I don't know if it's Josh I don't know if it's just the team but he got benched because I thought he got the starting to senior get off wide receiver and be called in to play quarterback which ended since high school also they honored hefty lefties family games is that probably should hey as the infomercial broadcast I probably shouldn't say about kind of a fun game do you have any browns games on the schedule thank you. They had their quarterback I don't know I don't know right more phone calls coming up close up shop what we learn what's in store tomorrow after this football here did CODA in Kentucky as opposed to Kentucky and Dakota yes hey Dan the weekend would be watching Lyndale boat and hi there a home game are there any other games that the dolphins could possibly lose I think week sixteen they're the bengals that that one out your home this fall and save by starting with lows adnew appliances and get deals like up to thirty five percents off select appliance special values including twenty four point seven cubic foot whirlpools analysis for the best nfl picks around now is that true or not I don't know very optimistic. 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"We begin on this Tuesday with our time line chiefs reporter, but I actually according to our Adam Schefter USC often support Nater clip ins berry is planning to interview today for the cardinals. They have a head coaching job available and at twelve forty nine eastern chiefs reporter Adams, high Scher says wide receiver Sammy Watkins and safety. Eric berry will return to practice today that could be a big root for Kansas City as they get set for the colts. We're glad to have you with us. Hello everybody on this Tuesday afternoon. I'm Wendy next field Yates, Tim halfback and coach John FOX. It does look like the Green Bay Packers of the first team to strike. They have landed. What appears to be their new head coach they're set to hire. Matt Lou Fluor as the new head man he spent the past season as Tennessee titans offered support Nater he previously worked under Sean McVeigh for the Los Angeles Rams and Kyle Shanahan with the Atlanta Falcons for more on this. We will say Hello. To our Packers reporter rob to Moscow. Who's in a balmy? Green Bay this afternoon about forty degrees, and rob leflore flew under the radar just a bit in the Packer searched for a new head coach. How did this get done? Well, Wendy, no coat needed for Matt leflore when he arrives in Green Bay later tonight and is introduced here at lab tomorrow. It's beautiful. This is what it's what it should be like right now for football, really Wendy here. Here's the thing. We started to hear last week Matla fours. Name mentioned, more and more. We knew that they wanted someone with a strong offense a background that led us to Josh mcdaniels who is a hot candidate. But as they talk to the floor, it became more clear that he was the better fit for Aaron Rodgers. And look the two hottest names in offense of coaching right now are Shanahan, and Sean McVay McVeigh and Matt leflore worked with both of them. How many guys around the league? Can you say tutored under both of those guys the Packer saw little bit of the floor. I had when they played the falcons in two thousand sixteen remember that was Matt Ryan's MVP year and that year in the NFC championship game. Matt Ryan rolled over the. Packers forty four to twenty one in the Georgia Dome on their way to the Super Bowl. Matt leflore has been on their radar ever since. And now Matt leflore will be the next guy patrolling the sidelines and working with Aaron Rodgers one source told me getting the coach and the quarterback on the same page was the number one priority here in Green Bay. I don't think there's any doubt about that. Thank you, rob. We will see you again tomorrow. Of course, when the floor is expected to be introduced at his most recent stops he served as the quarterbacks coach for the falcons while hell Shanahan was the OC Lanta reach stupor bowl. Matt Ryan was the MVP floor then took his talent to the west coast. He was the OC under Sean McVay. And in that time LA became the second team in NFL history to go from worse to first in scoring offense. Joining the sixty five forty Niners and then this year leflore joined first year head coach Mike Raval in Tennessee us the team's offense coordinator and play caller. The titans fell just short of a playoff berth for the second straight year losing a win. And your endgame to the colts in the season finale now during the floor step with the Rams, Sean McVeigh did the teams play calling in LA. It was one of the most productive office of units in the league. The titans had a lackluster offense this season. But keep in mind, Mike McCarthy was the OC steeper a forty Niners team that ranked thirtieth in scoring offense the year before he left for Green Bay and things turned out just fine. I don't think there's any coincidence that low-floor has worked and had success two quarterbacks by the name of Matt Ryan and Jared Goff and that the number one priority for this team coach was to find somebody to work with its quarterback Aaron Rodgers they'll list forgive it's about players plays. Everybody's a copycat in his Leo but copies plays. But it's those the players involved with and really when it gets down to it is the personality in hell, he portrayed himself in unity process. Forget about what agents are saying on the outside. All the insiders it really still going to be a one on one. Ship with who's going to be with that in that building everyday including that quarterback Aaron Rodgers we've seen a younger head coach with a quarter establish quarterback Jared Goff, not established but younger quarterback that work that didn't work as well. This could go either way, Tim. But clearly, they think this is somebody who can get on the same page with Aaron Rodgers listen getting on the same page and Rodgers shouldn't be difficult. I mean, the reality is that he's a really good player, and you know. Mettler floor is gonna come in and install an offense white. Honestly, that's tried and true offense coaches point about being a copycat league. Like people aren't he's not coming there in in running plays that people haven't seen before in the NFL. He's gonna come in and run plays that have existed in the NFL for a long time. And so if you look at kind of the tree from Mike Shanahan, Gary kubiak Ka-Shing hand, Sean McVeigh that style of offense. Okay. That is basically the origin of what will be the basis for what Matt leflore does on offense Aaron Rodgers can fit that. Well, just like you can fit a lot of systems. Well, I don't think the quarterback players really your issue in Green Bay. I think it's I think the issue is. Okay. You're this young offense of coach who's your defensive coordinator. I guess what part of the deal with Matt Nagy, you know, in Chicago or Sean McVay with the Rams is they have Wade Phillips Vic Fangio like I think that's probably as big of a deal. As who the offense of guy is well, I would agree with you that the play of the quarterback was the situation. But the personality I think did in factor into it. But but I agree. He's got to get some guys who know the other side of the football. And it seems like all indication retain much of his staff led by Mike that a nice job as defensive coordinator this season in terms of developing some of the players in the front seven and finding some reparations in the back in which really doomed them during the twenty seventeen season. I think part of the reason why this higher has been met with surprise is that it's the first vacancy filled, and it's by coach who really was only connected to the Green Bay Packer job that the floor was not the spicy name of this head coaching care. So right now, there were others like Matt either fluids of the colts cliff Kingsbury, you are scheduled to interview with multiple teams. And people sorta just assume those will be the first Domino's that fall. And instead it's the floor. And I think that what it sort of brings us back to what coach mentioned up the top in. That we can talk all about us in the media who we think the top candidates are who are the risers who are the fallers who has the most stock. But ultimately when you go out there, and you interview that can be four five six our process where you are selling your entire operation to the decision makers and in Green Bay that. Specifically is Mark Murphy the team president, and it sure feels like that connection was forged during that one interview. And here we our Matla leflore who's got a grand opportunity say what you will about how the Packers performing this season. If I had the opportunity to coach arguably, arguably the most talented quarterback to ever play the game. I like my odds of being successful ten times out of ten in one of the most four one of the story franchises in the league, one of the most iconic places in addition to that the years as an OC Tim, do we make too much of that the fact that there's only two here concern you at all. It depends on how what ends up happening is he going to call plays in Green Bay. I mean, you don't know if that's actually going to be the case. I you said it before I think part of what happens sometimes you looking like wait a second whose F coordinated with the titans their quarterback threw eleven touchdown pass issue. Like, how does this going to work out? It is about players and not just play. Yes. You do need to have a good sound scheme. But I think and you said this fair about other things you deal with as a head coach rather than being the scientists. That's designing plays in the truth of the matter is that's probably the bigger issue. I think you're doing with when you hire a younger coach you're hiring guy that you are hoping is going to relate better to your players. I think when you do that. And so, but in in in with that you also deal with a lot of problems players get into trouble players make mistake. There's other things that happen in how the coach is mature. Enough to handle those things the right way. And have the discussions that need to be had that what's the biggest challenge coach of becoming the CEO? If you will rather than just, you know, the mad scientist with the guy who's calling plays when you're in charge of the whole operation. What's the what's the steepest part of the learning? It is about people skills. New could be a dark room design game plans on offense defense special teams or in for the GM hiring GM's same thing here and there's studying evaluating players. Well, when you become a GM, and you become a head coach, you control the emotion and the attitudes and everything in that building the minute you walk in the door. Everybody's looking at you. And you're in charge of that. And that's good times in bedtime. And that's not an easy thing to do. It was far as the experience. I don't put a lot of stock Jack del Rio he was a linebacker coach. The ravens hired him is my defensive coordinator and Carolina first years head coach and the very first year, we took a defensive was thirty. I was thirty one teams and. Really went to second the league and one season in Jack hejab, Jacksonville where he had a pretty substantial long career in very very much success there. So the I don't think much about experiences a lot of qualified people. And I think the people skills managing the people is the biggest attribute for head coach. Let's talk about these qualified people because now they're seven right. We had eight now the floor expected to be introduced tomorrow, so seven jobs available who's out there. Yeah. Well, we certainly know that one of the two sides of sort of gaining a lot of tracks right now. Bruce Arians, the former Arizona Cardinals head coach who has retired the same way that kind of print Brett farve retirement. It's retirement till something better understood and acted strongly to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And obviously the match would be sensible. If you wanna find coach at his capable of resurrecting James Winston, and one of the more popular candidates who was nearly had go tacky was technically a head coach for a minute last year which McDaniel to the patriots who actually said earlier on today that he is going to stay in New England or twenty nineteen essentially withdrawing his name from any more interviews. The may have had. He was briefly connected. Not just bay. But also Cincinnati and the reality for Josh is probably this for as long as he remains the patriots offense coordinator, he would be linked to head coaching jobs every offseason until he takes another head coaching job. So it is one domino down with Green Bay. I didn't there's a sense around the league that we could have a couple more coming very soon. And then there's going to get into the wild card. They're going to be a few wildcards that may be, hey, our preference of candidates may not want our job most so different. We're. Going to have to go to contingency plans ABC, and sometimes, you know, happy accidents, those contingency plans workout pretty well. I think it'd be Annapolis. All right. Let's talk about the game. Because we got another big weekend of football, shall we look at the divisional weekend matchups in the NFC sixty eagles. Take on the saints in the big easy. The Cowboys had to Hollywood to face. The Rams the chargers out west again to face New England on Sunday. But the weekend it's off Saturday with the colts and the chiefs in that will also Mark the postseason debut for Patrick Mahomes. He played his way into the MVP conversation during the regular season. No question about that. But now the question becomes whether he can help his coach Andy Reid finally win his first championship and get that monkey off his back so to speak here is Patrick Mahomes on the road ahead. I mean, every playoff games being. I mean, we're excited. The colts not win for a long time to standing this. Yeah. Yeah. I mean for me is my first playoff game. I'm excited just to be here. And then at the same time get the opportunity to go out there and win win games. Like this. I mean when you grow up you wanna go and play games like this. When you when you get older, you want to be a professional athlete and you wanna win on the biggest stage. And so for me, it's about going out there. Like, I said be myself, Lena, my teammates and try to go out there and a big football game. If the Beguin that for sure while we can they're rough so far for guys making their first playoff starts. All three have lost Pat Mahomes. We'll try to buck that trend. No quarterback has won the Super Bowl in the same postseason where he made his first NFL start since Tom Brady in two thousand one coach dealt with young quarterbacks. You've dealt veteran quarterbacks. What's the challenge here of taking the homes from an absolutely excellent regular season quarterback into the postseason? You looked on the Doug ran through the guys loss this past weekend. So. Bedroom homes, and I've seen all season long is him being in pressure-packed situations on the rose last minute drives just the fact that this is his first complete years starter is even mind boggling is the MVP the national fully. So sure Andy Reid just telling them be the same guy the same guy who's been all season long. I don't think you'll have a problem with that. But it is a whole different atmosphere when you click into playoff mentality. Can't we can't have right home. Enough homes has been an absolute lay maker when outside of the pocket. It's fourteen touchdown passes in that situation. Six more than any other NFL player. He's got two hundred eight more passing yards than any other QB from outside the pocket. He finished two thousand eighteen with the second best VR in the NFL on such place. He is dynamic if there's no other word to describe Patrick homes. It is certainly that one. So all right, Indianapolis, Tim. You're the colts number one. Good luck. Number two. What do you do that? Listen, I think you have to try to trick them. You know what I mean? In terms of the you need a fool them, and you need to you know, you bring a pressure and he throws it into a trap or you need to do something like that to to kind of shake a little bit. I think that's one of the hopes that you can do if you look at the ravens last week. They brought a lot of pressure last week against Houston, Texas. I mean, I feel like I saw more corner pressures last week than than I'd seen maybe in a single game. And then I think the other aspect of it is got to do a good job devoting resources to stopping Travis Kelsey, and you can't give up huge play to tie Rikhye. And it's all sounds. It's easier to say actually do. But I think you need to need a double them at times. And so maybe sometimes you fool on who you're doubling because I don't think they are the same run game that they were when they had Kareem hunt, and that's significant for them. Believe well, again, coach and teeth will kick things off. That's our first game four thirty five on Saturday. The chiefs, of course, playing at Arrowhead. It was the dominant defense that set the tone for the Cowboys and that left deck Prescott and company to do just enough to edged the Seattle Seahawks. Dallas lives to play at other day. They now head west for a date with a loss Angeles Rams and for more on this. We will say Hello to our Cowboys reporter Todd Archer Todd doc in the Cowboys head into this matchup as an underdog. But tell us why this trip to the Colosseum isn't too big a moment for the Cowboys quarterback. Well, Wendy is first trip to the Coliseum a twenty sixteen preseason game. That was the first time we really got a read on what he could be. If you remember when training camp open. He was a number three quarterback Kellen. Moore was the backup broke his leg. The first week of training camp. As a veteran Romo wasn't going to play in that first preseason game. So the job felt to Prescott he goes out there ten of twelve passes through to touchdown two touchdowns in his work. And also on the Cowboys. Thank hey, maybe we got something here. Well couple of weeks later Romo breaks his back. He takes job fulltime. And we'd known what he's what he's been since that point. I spoke to Travis Frederick in the locker Monday about that game. And he said when Prescott came in the huddle remarkable poise composure in really had a felt like this was the moment. Okay. We're going to be fine. If we need this guy while he's been fine ever since. And now he's got the Cowboys in division around for the second time in three years, and he hopes his next trip to the Coliseum is good as his first trip. Understandably, so thank you so much the. Offensive explosion. We saw start the season worst show two thousand eighteen in fact last weekend, especially for the Cowboys. It was the defense that dominated Dak and company did just enough and that left the Cowboys edging out the Seahawks Dallas lives to play another day. Here's Jason Garrett on his running back. Very balanced team. They run the ball well girls outstanding back has everything you want running back. He's quick. He's fast explosive strong outstanding vision, it can be to a speeding and beach with power and be cutting back. It can beat you. When the hand him the ball. He can be to they throwing the ball. He's great run. After the catch plays the competitive spirit. He's just a fantastic player. Zeke Elliott as well. And some ways I probably did describes equally. Both big time players who can really do everything you want them to do on the field and and embrace carrying the burden for their team. Not wrong on either front. That's for sure. One led the league in touchdowns for the season. The other the rushing yards leader listen who's backfield? Do you trust the most here? Do we really have to choose one through four? Can we just do like three number ones? And then followed up with you have. I mean, I feel like I'm certainly being decisive here if I pick one and maybe this feels a little bit odd given how this season finish for Todd Gurley. But I'm still going with the Los Angeles Rams because they discovered something is J Anderson over the final two weeks when he came in. He ran incredibly hard for them. And I think if you look at the way that this offense of line blocked and one of the metrics the track here is yards before contact most I contact. It was just remarkable this year as ram off grams offense of line was a bunch of mountain movers. Now is difficult match up. And we don't know girlie is even going to be a hundred percent when this game rolls around on Saturday. But I still go back to the most prolific offense route the course of the entire season in the NFL. And that was the Los Angeles. Rams I'll take that back field. But there two other great choices early by the way expected to play. He's missed two weeks. Writing a sixteen seventeen or has not played since week fifteen with that nagging knee injury. But it appears like he's healthy. And for the most part ready to go coach, I'm going with Zeke, Elliot, and the reason that is a really liked their commitment to run since they've added Amari Cooper, they've taken some of those eight-man boxes off of them opened up their past game. And I just like how they stick to it. And really there's success and their turn around their season. And they're pushing this playoffs. So far has been the resurgence of him getting the ball over twenty times we've done that they've been Victoria. So the one I trust the most Zeke you'll Elliott better than one running back. Two running backs. Major states because of that, you know in in the difference. In terms of skill set the tween both back now both are actually more than adequate in the passing game. But when you look at what they do and how they use them all the chimera as a receiver and some of the stuff they can do with him as a route runner is incredible. Then he is a very good runner. Mark Ingram, very physical runner a good situational runner. I just think the fact that they have to guys that by the way, they can play at the same time. They do that sometimes. And then you also mix in a little bit of taste some hill with some zone, read stuff. I just think that backfield is brutal to try to defend every say all these guys will run run run run. And then we go in and, you know, twelve hundred combined passing yards or something like that something always happens, especially this time of the year. Let's which now to the AFC we're going to talk a little bit about quarterbacks. If you will what difference a year makes Andrew luck this time around I'm like last year when he was nursing. His shoulder three for two hundred twenty two yards and two touchdowns. The colts built a big first half lead and took care of the Texans. Really from start to finish MAC added. One hundred forty eight yards and a touchdown and the colts off to face the chiefs. They rebounded to make playoffs. I think this is really incredibly impressive because it could have gone a different direction. They start one in five becoming the sixteen and the Super Bowl era to make the playoffs after being at least four games under five hundred in the regular season each of the previous five lost in the divisional round. So now Indy has the chance to become the first to reach the conference title game. I asked you the question about running backs backfield to you trust at the most. I hate to even ask this one. But what quarterback you trust the most in the AFC to start again? Well, listen, I was gonna let you go. I thought you were gonna take Tom Brady is because Tom Brady. Yeah. And listen as much as it's kind of just tempting to talk about some of these other guys. And he's Tom Brady has got a tough match-up. Look, I'm taking Tom Brady. I mean, everybody's right. I mean, I think you have to sorry you've lived it firsthand coach the biggest biggest stage magical, but the reality is that even though these other fifty touchdown passes for Pat Mahomes, and, you know, Andrew luck's playing great and he's got a running game and Philip rivers having outstanding air, I'm Brady in the postseason has been really good and he's been beyond good when he's playing in Foxborough. So I it's hard to pick anybody when you're valuating quarterbacks. One of the traits that you focusing on his clutch production. It's how to quarterbacks play in two minute drills and uptempo and gotta have his in the postseason when the stakes are the highest. And that's Tom Brady has been at his best three hundred. Ninety six passing yards per game over his last five postseason games. If you think about the patriots in the postseason. They have been prolific offensively. I get it. It was a stuck in the mud year for Tom Brady and the patriots for lot of twenty eighteen but there is a benefit of the doubt. Because of the been there done that being said, very difficult not to pick Patrick Mahomes because it's been his year which went you might buy choices Brady. But okay, I haven't I was great. I mean, again, not about not no not think this. I think this. Figure out what the deal is still take you. You have better reason than anyone take. Official. I Wilson I add to watch first firsthand in Houston. Watch him take a two minute drill down to win. And put them in position to kick the winning field goal. So I actually had I could not even think of a better choice in my mind. He might be the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. Maybe degrees player to ever play the game for being serious. So I'll pick you out. I Steve Young all season right in tool proven. Otherwise. I think trust is the operative word there. He is a proven commodity to say, the least and until that changes. I know it wasn't the same year for the patriots. But not over yet. All right file under one end done after one record setting season as Ohio State starting quarterback Duane Haskins taking talents to the next level. He will declare for the NFL draft at thirty or soft. Moore who rewrote the school record books has been expected to enter the draft. And now will be projected force as a first round pick. No better person. To talk about all of this. Then our draft do through Mel kiper junior who joins us now now and male. You wrote an article on ESPN dot com about why Haskins could be the number one pick this year. What makes him deserve that so much about the Wayne Haskins, Wendy one thing key improvement from say Penn State on the road at Happy Valley when he was struggling a bit didn't recognize even face is pressure. They're still twenty six fourteen fourth quarter touchdown passes. Britain's back to win that game. Springboard Wendy to consistent improvement throughout the rest of the year to the point where he was planning the pocket he was willing to four fifth options. He was seeing the field. Very well. He's got the size is got armies mobile enough. He's got tremendous leadership. Great confidence football IQ, but it all came together as a season went along for kid who's going to end his career, which is fourteen starts. He could be very much in line. Wendy to be the number one pick overall. What's the New York giant? They could maybe trade up from six to one and get Wayne Haskins. Wow. All right. I'm happy to say we're gonna talk about last night's game. How about my Clemson Tigers to did not not bad? Fighting Irish might be vindicated a little bit Ross by twenty seven and they were nine to three going near the hat work got out of hand. But I know where you're gonna win Trevor Lawrence would I go he looks like Andrew lock, and we talked about interlock the young kid at Stanford. He's he's destined to be the number one pick in the draft. Lock it in you gonna lock Trevor Lawrence, and you can lock him in. If he was available. This year is the number one pick. He just last five games of the year eleven touchdowns. No picks mistake free for truth. Brackman then you go into the money game against Notre Dame and Alabama six downs. No pixies to sixty six percent of his passes. Calm cool. Collected comes out of high school the number one player plays like it. Tell you what you gotta wait a couple more years than I think college football fans, Wendy Clemson Tigers fans or static to have him back. But he's the be barring any type of injury. He's going to be the number one BIC when he's available to come out now. Thank you. And you're absolutely right. I'm happy. He's not going anywhere anytime soon. Well, we'll we'll take him for a few more years now. Thank you one. Here's the top of the draft order for twenty nineteen. The cardinals have the number one overall pick. That's a spot. They've never drafted from since the common draft era again in nineteen sixty seven. There were the Chicago cardinals. Crazy. They would have number one over on that was back way out fifties or something like that. You were. Yeah, we won't even talk about that. Listen, the giant says you heard Mel say they're at six there's some talk about the giants maybe moving up Haskins. But let's look at this who needs a quarterback, and what your early very early thoughts are. But it'll come before we know it. So I'm gonna piggyback on what Mel said with the New York Giants pick six you need to find a way to acquire quarterback one through the draft or free agency in some way, shape or form, but is not happening. Pick six Wendy sits over the past eighteen drafts. There have been seventeen instances in which a quarterback at least one of them has gone in the top three. The reality is if you're capable quarterback prospect, you're going to be taken by pick three if not sooner the only exception to those eighteen drastically year in which EJ manual was the sixteenth overall pick in the draft and really he was moved up because of supply and demand. The bills needed a quarterback? He had a great senior bowl buddy nix their Jim at the time made him the sort of the cherry on the top of the Sunday in terms of his tenure of drafting. For the bills but Haskins going early, and I think the giants have to make a move up to get him. But what's interesting when you look at these teams. I mean a lot especially if the raiders stick with their car. They'd have a quarterback. Here's what I would say. And I think most people believe that the raiders do have a quarterback with what's gone on with the raiders. I think there's probably enough doubt in people's mind. Whether it's real or not whether or not they believe that's the case would which would put them as a potential team that would be interesting to quarterback. So I think it goes back to fields point about if you wanna quarterback and you look at teams in the top ten the Broncos would be in the mix. The Jags are in the mix giants in the mix the buccaneers it sounds like they're not. But they easily could be the raiders could be. So that makes sense that having to get to at least three in order to jump these other teams because certainly the cardinals Niners jets are not drafting a quarterback fascinating to think about the raiders who have all this draft capital. They've got three first round picks in twenty nine hundred. Almost wonder if they wish they had made the market portrayed for twenty twenty. And the reason I mentioned that that quarterback would have three first round picks in twenty twenty and regardless of how they perform next season. They would have all this capital to potentially move up and select a player like to for example, or I don't think you want to wait until twenty twenty one. That'd be a lot of misery in successive years. But timing is often everything in life in the draft. I think twain Haskins gonna benefit from class that not a ton of star power. And he had a fine finds fifty touchdown fascist truly remarkable. Yeah. He was one and done. But he, but he certainly got it done while he was there to ask you about the bucks. Now, obviously new head coach coming in GM's been clear, you know, we can put that in quotes. If he will that Jameis Winston the guy does that change at all. And and how does that affect what can happen? Here figure will think it's kind of a prerequisite to get that job. And that's a hard one to turn back on once you get there. So I'm gonna say they stand Pat with James. The one I really find interesting number ten there the Broncos and they're talking about Mike bunch possibly even my coordinator Vic Fangio they got to get quarterback. Problem solved. Get that organization back to where they once were. Let's go back to Trevor Lawrence because I can't talk about him enough to wa- for all. It's going. Anyway. Offered a little bit. Anyway, Tim, what did you see from Trevor Lawrence agree with bell? And he's got he's got a couple more years. What to at least? She's talked to people who meet him in there like, whoa. Like, his high schooler. He goes shakes hands in his hands up around your elbow. And you're like, wait a second. This guy already looks like a pro to be true freshman and kind of have the season that he had kind of takes over the job. And then plays some of these moments, obviously against the team that's littered with froze prospects. Like, he did, you know Alabama last night being a true freshman, you'd think that he's got to stay in school two more years. You know, he looks apart physically ready seems like you know, he has the leadership aspects of it. You know, there are seniors on that Clemson team, you know, that were following him. You know that looked at him as a leader. So. You heard Mel say we're gonna talk about him, you know, like, Andrew luck. And remember when we were talking about Andrew luck people were saying, this is the best prospect on Elway's VIN. So. As we sit here right now. Look, I here's what I would say as a redshirt freshman, James Winston one national championship. And we were really impressed with him. And they were plenty of flaws big wind up for delivery had been in some trouble. He was the first overall pick. I think as we sit here today, you could probably predict predict him being the number one overall pick when he comes out already, which is obviously, you know, I mean being able to do that's pretty crazy so impressive for him. To is. This is first of all he looks six foot six all love it you now grow into that body, but makes him so difficult. It's ultimately sustained success in the NFL is being able to win from the pocket as a quarterback, but when you can design or you can have non designed plays that we saw from Patrick Mahomes. Scrambling eluding pressure winning on the run those stats. We showed you from Patrick homes outside of the pocket or Godley. Trevor Lawrence showed a lot of that last night. Whether it was elude. Pressure going backwards, going, horizontally, he's terrific athlete. Not just thrower. Well, he'll take the Andrew luck comparison take the Patrick Mahomes comparisons. And eventually they'll be Trevor Lawrence comparisons sin. Yeah. I think that's fair. Right. Panic patients, shall we? Do it. You can't now let's let's do it one week after he was introduced as Oakland Raiders general manager Mike may on plane the power dynamic between himself and raiders head coach Jon Gruden rats. She heard of him. It turns out he says in all honesty, John Scott, the final say if it ever come to that. And I've got zero problems with that. Now, he did elaborate may out get instead that he believed that the two would have considerable debate that they would come to consensus that he was comfortable with screaming and yelling, and whatever it took to get to agreement. But at the end of the day Jon Gruden makes the final decision coach panic or patients on the raiders front office situation patient think no bolt men. You know that three letter answer D U H is pretty much dove at Jon Gruden has. Yeah. I think Mike understands that. But I've been been in those rooms with that I'll say GM and head coach you are looking for consensus and more times than not on any decision. As does personnel. There's gonna be a consensus. They'll be debate. It'll be arguments. But you always feel better about the decision when everybody agrees. I I think there's something to be said for just putting it out there to everybody knows Jon Gruden final. Call you got to come in and be okay with that. So it's not that's off the table. You look, you know, the power the power structure is what it is. And I think quite honestly like when the coaches the guy that's got a game plan and put people out on the field. I think the coaches should be kind of have as much input an influence over that. I've seen many times guy. Get drafted not be very good. And he's forced onto the field. It happens sometimes places, and I think ultimately what happens is those guys all give five so your point. Yeah. You won't be on the same page, but. It's the right move this often rears itself most with things like quarterback valuation and first round picks when you get around to three you are very much reacting to how the rest of the board has gone. You don't have time to plan every scenario. This is the critical decisions. And if you're not unison think anyways, you're done when you look at around power structure. I mean, there's a big reason why these college coaches aren't leaving because it's more that way the college level they are the GM head coach let the debating again because they'll be plenty Oakland has enough draft picks to sink ship. All right charges improved eight and one away from home when they flew all the way across the country and handled the ravens over the weekend. So what does that win do it earns LA another trip east this time to face Tom Brady and the New England Patriots in Foxborough and it's been a pretty lopsided head to head between Tom Brady and Philip rivers, including the playoffs Brady stamps, a perfect seven and Owen his career starting opposite of. Of rivers. It is Brady's best record against any opposing quarterback in his career tied for third. Best record Eddie starting quarterback in the Super Bowl era panic or patients field gates, Philip rivers facing the patriots grabbed this button just to pass it along Tim for the question because I'm gonna mating patient here with Philip rivers and in Los Angeles chargers you mentioned the eight one when not playing even better undefeated outside the state of California this where they have just been awesome. And it seems like there's a certain resilience to them that maybe it's the when we have less to lose or nothing to lose. We can play more relaxed comfortable in three and then just talked about players not plays earlier on in the show. In regard to the backers charges roster is moded key positions to phenomenal edge rushers. They've got a do it all safety. If got an offensive line. That's been better this year. Plenty of pass catchers. I am patient on the chargers, and I will just note the historical significance of this matchup. Nearly. Twelve years ago eleven years ago. Skews me Tom Brady, Philip rivers. Same two quarterbacks. Same two teams AFC championship game during the two thousand seven postseason remark. Mugo eleven years between spans of starts by the same quarterback. Same teams longest second longest gap in NFL history. According to alive sports, and you know, what? In fairness, Tom Brady's not playing Philip rivers. Playing defense and it'll give the company line. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, wait a joke. Got you. Surely through free play just one more game as a thirty something quarterback. He'll turn the big four zero on January fifteenth happy early birthday drew Brees the saints to give brief some time off in week seventeen. And that means he'll have fresh legs importantly fresh arm. When the eagles come calling. The thing is the eagles have that little thing called momentum. They've got Nick foles back. We've seen this movie before I'm not saying it ends the same Panicker patients. The rest of drew Brees or the momentum facing that momentum of Nick rules. And the eagles was nice. Gave me this. But like if I knew we had another one I would just throw it over the boundary. Worried about drew Brees or pantheon him. I am most certainly. Momentum and same. What I'm saying? Is that game in home at me at home where he has been honestly record-setting in their own building. And with the defense to support it that I think is really good and defense that is gonna have the benefit of playing with all of that crowd noise. I think that the Saint section match up well against the secondary the Philadelphia Eagles. I think drew Brees continues. Great season into the postseason is the only way you'd press that if I said like drew Brees won't play panicked on the saints impress it. Then no precedent Bridgewater guy. That's how it works at you know. I mean, I'm saying you're saying on this panic on the saints reasonably oh, yeah. Then I would just curious. It was the. Free agency this coming off season will be fun. How about lady on bell? He sat out two thousand eighteen but you'll have plenty of teams calling. He's averaged one hundred twenty nine scrimmage yards per game, the highest Mark and NFL history. Indaba consumer. Here we go again after signing a one year deal with the Rams last off season the five time Pro Bowl selection as made one hundred fifteen straight starts, the longest active streak among defensive tackles. Go Tate was traded to Philly from the lions on deadline day final year of his deal. He's produced the second most yards after catch in the weeks entering the NFL in two thousand ten and interesting name to watch Earl Thomas two thousand eighteen campaign was cut short due to broken leg. Twenty-eight picks since joining the league in two thousand ten the third most of the NFL behind Richard Sherman and Reggie Nelson. And after he was shipped from buffalo to Cleveland last year. Tyrod Taylor will be looking for a new home and potentially a place to start the. Second most rushing yards on scrambles since the start of two thousand fifteen and two other notable free agents after two thousand eighteen a lot of defensive guys including a trio of franchise tags from last off season, lamarcus Joyner and DeMarcus Lawrence quarterback, petty Bridgewater will be a free agent could be looked at by some teams who need it for back. And we know there are plenty who do and feel for some guys. We're playing this weekend. They'll have some interesting off seasons their last chance or could be anyway to showcase what they can do. Let's look at some of these guys where they may end up you just mentioned. So let's start first here within Dhamma consume a one year deal with the Los Angeles Rams ES made as much money as you could possibly make this position at this juncture of his career. So the question for sue is you go out there continue to find the place that gives you the best chance to win a Super Bowl. Which is why I think he might be one of the rare players whose comfortable going one year by one year packs. I wonder if chiefs you're going to have to spend aggressively during this win. Oh and Patrick Mahomes on rookie deal might make some sense lots reparation to that defense now than when you look at sue what's interesting thirty two years old. And and so players like that, you know, I don't know that you're you're talking about a year to year thing players like that. I think it's harder for them to get a bigger long-term deal. He has still been productive had four and a half sacks this year, obviously playing alongside Aaron Donald can help with that. And so that's the other thing with him. You mentioned he's made a lot of money. Also, he kind of talked a lot about wanting to be LA. You know, what his motivations are might be unique, you know, in terms of the league. And what most guys are looking for. If we were just had every player that scheduled to be a free agent. Not have the franchise tag of able the best player in the open market will be DeMarcus Lawrence the Dallas Cowboys. He's been absolute play record for them over the past two seasons. I'm going to franchise last year. It was proved again to us this year note, he's done twenty eighteen editor what he was in twenty seventeen. Twenty five sacks over the past. Two seasons force against the run. Twenty six years old one agency rolls around Lawrence conclusion. Here is inevitable is gonna be franchise tag again by the that's about twenty million dollars in the pocket of Lawrence. But he wants the big enchilada. He wants the Donald the Khalil Mack type deal one hundred million, plus which maybe year from now continues to dominate you will he'll be in line for that. Either way. He's gonna make a lot of money. They should because that's such an impact position one that really kinda gotten them to where they are now with that defense and their ability to run the ball. But you just look at kill MAC and the impact that guy can make to defense. That's what DeMarcus Lawrence can do as an impact player on defense. We already get to look ahead to that big clock. You know that big clock put up. Yeah. All right. So San just you wait as we mentioned before ramps. Running back Todd Gurley sidelined in week sixteen and seventeen that was due to a nagging knee injury. But he's expected back in time for the Rams on Saturday. Girly led the NFL with a league best Twenty-one touchdowns. And we'll go west now and say Hello to our Rams reporter Lindsey theory and Lindsey the Rams had the luxury of watching the wild card round at home. They had the by how did they make use of the week off? Hey, Wendy will was a much needed by the Rams held a couple of light practices religious kind of fresh up their legs get them back under them and continue that rehab for Todd Gurley. Now, he has been dealing as you said with inflammation and soreness in his left knee that kept him sidelined the final two weeks over the BI week girly continued to rehab that knee, and Sean McVeigh told me that he even participated in a light jog through on Sunday. So that would have been his first action in a couple of weeks. Now, they do expect the girly will play Saturday. But he told me that he definitely wants to get in a couple of practices. This week Justice. See how he's feeling before he has to play for the game. Now, even though girly is expected to the play. The Rams do have a reliable backup in veteran. CJ Anderson who they signed with just two weeks remaining in the regular season. No Anderson rush for well over one hundred yards against both the forty Niners in cardinals prove that he was also very reliable in pass. Protection? So of girly needs a little bit of a lighter load. They can rely on that veteran a backup. One more note going into Saturday's game against the Cowboys safety lamarcus Joyner who was out in week seventeen. Because of an ankle injury. Also is expected to go. So Wendy, the Rams are back healthy just in time for their divisional round game. Timing is everything. Lindsey. Thank you. And it certainly sounds like Todd Gurley will be good to go. The question though is about Jared Goff and down the stretch not quite the same as we saw earlier in the season. Does that concern you the way he played in the final few weeks of the regular season concerned about it? It kind of was somewhat alarming to see how we played in a couple of those games that being said, I think some of it had to do with grows banged up. I don't think the interior of that offense of line played great during that stretch. But he was able to kind of a thing. Whether we lost confidence or not, I don't know. But it was able to put together a good game week sixteen. And so because of that I think that he's going to be going into this playoffs with some confidence. And I think they'll have a good plan to get an easy completions. And get them going a little bit like on a little bit concerned getting C J Anderson than there. I think's really helped him in Denver. He's he's a good solid player. Obviously getting girly backs for the critical. I still have flashes of that Bayer's game concerns me especially with the opponent this week in the Dallas Cowboys, which I think they're fun seven is comparible chicken. Well, it comes right there. You gotta think that if you short easy completions to get this thing. Started would go a long way and settling him down and sort of getting him back in a rhythm. They don't do that run men. Ryan. We're back best friend. Tim bragging about his cat light grief, though. Oh, yeah. Lightning-fast is what? Yeah. No, okay. Who's I all of those stores? I'm all in on the Dallas Cowboys glimpses of the big three again. And that Dallas d is going to be tough as they had LA the new warling saints at home this passing offense, specifically, debris. How about this for a stat line at home this year? Twenty one touchdowns one interception. The eagles are riding high, and they are so resilient drew Brees at home, very difficult. Don't forget last game in his thirties. January fifteenth turned forty kit relate a seventy four years from now that will happen to you. Head coach of the upset special. I'm all in on another upset special. Indianapolis Colts going into head in getting it done if they're run game. We're gonna talk so much about the quarterbacks. Both of them are great. But I think it's about them being able to run the football Marlin MAC nearly one hundred fifty yards last week. Now, he just the face a defense. That's given up five yards per carry run of the defending the run. Here. I actually agree with you. Okay. I'm not I'm not saying chiefs this game. Here you go. What I'm saying is that I'm all in on Patrick Mahomes being big enough for the moment. I don't have any reputation at all that he will be rattled by this stage. What happens, I don't know? Because I think the colts match up pretty well against this chiefs team. But I don't think you'll see Patrick Mahomes. Not do what he's done all season. If it's enough. We'll find out, but he'll be just fine soon to be NFL MVP petro. To me and says hall of Famer Patrick Mahomes. All right. So we never get ahead of ourselves. 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