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"chesney" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show
"We started the hour with kenny chesney. And we're taking phone calls. The rest of the way griffith was here earlier. Don't forget tomorrow. We will be live in colombia. Many many guests previewing this weekend's biggest games we have people at all the big games including conversation with dawn. Staley and shane beamer. As we are live from the horse show horseshoe horse nor show On the usc campus let scared to roddy. who's up. next. Hey hey ronnie just calling in an alabama fan. You wanna take up much of your time. But i think gary danielsson's name should be put in the hat for the usc coach because he knows all the places called every time you hear him on tv. Thank you very much. Okay well i if you took that job then but that he wouldn't do the. Cbs games anymore winning. Let's check out. I don't know who wanna go. Let's just i'm just gonna close my eyes and say porter is up next to hell porter. Paul how you doing porter. We are doing great. What's up with you. I wanted to ask you three questions. first one is. How do you think. Wisconsin will do against notre dame second of all that will. Do you think justin fields will do in his first store third. Hell what did you see from an ems backup. Kiedis calls on it. I i saw a guy that knows how to win. And i think I think they lose a little bit from hanes king. I think that speaks for itself when you go to tobacco. But i like what he did. I mean i know. He had some tough moments but He he made the play that mattered. I just fields will be great I don't know why it's taken the bears three weeks to get to him. But i know that they They wanted to take it slow. I'm still kind of torn on the wisconsin game. I originally i was leaning toward notre dame. But but i'm starting to swing around to the the badgers. What about you. I'm going wisconsin. Because i'm tired of notre dame making it in the playoffs embarrassed high level team. Okay well i'm gonna pull for wisconsin to then. Hey thank you. Appreciate the call. Percy percy give me out of here. Hey follow ghana which today. Hey there how are you I wanted to ally the game against florida. Okay and the defense play awesome into often play fair the way so the defense with a whole number three point secondhand the offense then play where they were dropping bow for first down that could at their could've kept the game going that put the defense back on the field. Florida camp coming haw alabama. So by that time the defense up things were and they will go out and and so when the offense kate mood about. They didn't get the defense time to read but they did manage to rise up when they needed it to but if the receiver they had to have demand in the third quarter quality like the ball. They will drop in the ruthie. We we lancia dante's dante Was nice meal and avenue and waddell who were just both first round picks. oh yeah when. They went when when they throw the ball into them. They went like their first break. John is the practice of stolen but they did. But you can. I think the criticism bryce young is is really overdone I mean i think he's very well and You know he had a couple balls. There should have been caught. But that's okay right so offense coordinator defense coordinator they're doing. They're doing a fantastic job because he just got out. Because i often can maintain a long drive to get time to rip and florida coming hall so i pay. You can bet nick fame. We'll have them read it this week. I think saving you know saving didn't have to talk about getting their attention. I mean i would think this was a good week of practice for southern missing. you know. they're not their practice. They're already getting ready for all. Miss the southern miss game. But i worry about that will flow and now by the time they jail and offense come around they do and just get a defense time to read certain little bit. Paul ain't nobody gonna be we're gonna have they're gonna be how many how many how many champs in nickname got failed. He's only seven national championships. Right now six at alabama. Oh okay you'll have a even alabama dc. Right powell elaine. Bag on bigalow. No back you ever think he was those championships. Oh no sweet home. Alabama babe you think may have one six year and fourteen years. Maybe we ought to let somebody else went it this year. No we won't be to do it not going to be obama fans. I don't know what you're not an easy group to please. I'm a road tied all the way. Now where do you live in. Alabama and birmingham birmingham on your hill and paul would say that alabama fan they get mad at me about when alabama mccain go to a championship in the all championship. I pooled for over. I am alabama fan but if alabama make najem chip and all would make do championship. I pool for over. The two-time auburn played in two thousand ten in two thousand thirteen. You for auburn times right pool with them because they will put the state alabama if i did i did too i will. Uab update their one year. One do you think. Maybe i don't think it will be this year now. Now we'll be dad. That's my i like you you call again. Thanks for the call. Personally from birmingham.
"chesney" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show
"I tell you what i really. I try to be objective here and but The kenny chesney conversation really got to me Thanks for being here. A couple segments remaining on a thursday. We'll be in columbia tomorrow. Hope you'll come by and see us if you're in the vicinity wrote about william of next in tennessee. Hello william right ahead. Mr bomb bomb we. I'm i'm doing great. Thank you for asking hi. I'm a long time. List of your program. And i was born in raised in tennessee and i was kinda. Wanna get your take on University of tennessee knocked are getting out of the Playing army and also a comment on also on your interview. Mr chesney i was a director security at the college which His dad was indebted to the sports hall of fame really and yes and met him and his group down there. At the baseball field anna. You remember the smart cars tigra. Smart cars sure met him there We we kinda kept it hidden and you know when a small town tennessee with kenneth chess name. That's you know kind of the hall. Can you say and bought a class. Iraq is dad Cosby his dad during the week You know talking about security with him. Arriving and already Pam his dad is whole crew but But i'll hang up and listen to your comment and I i love your show thank you. We did work mr von ball. Thank you very much I i really appreciate you. Bring that up in this situation in I i don't know what else i i haven't really heard. I'd like to hear a little bit more from tennessee on the explanation. But that's their choice but but canny I've always been a huge fan but i think he. I don't think kenny chesney needs another fan. He's got like eight billion around the world but I think he he made a few more tonight. with his comments. That was just absolutely great. Let's continue with more phone calls here. Amos amos in georgia like name. Paul brother amos. We're doing great. Hey man listen. I just want to call in and give my two cents on the obama. Florida game bama. Fans need to calm down. Bama is still bama ev. You know this paul. Every now. dan bama has these games where they come out a little sluggish especially on the role we saw in twenty fourteen. With ole miss. We saw in two thousand fifteen with old minutes. We saw in twenty seventeen. It's a sippy state right. We saw last year. With ole miss obama's going to be obama. they'll be undefeated going into atlanta michael griffith. He needs to make man. I'd be all your georgia or your georgia Spokesperson or what georgia's fine. They're gonna go in in atlanta. Both teams would be undefeated. In atlanta ole miss. It will get exposed next week. They haven't faced a real deepens and florida florida fans. You walk credit for a loss. Listen this is. Football is all about wins and losses. Okay if you want credit. Go to mason out of st paul. You're talking to get used to work at a at a department store can. Can you put that win on layaway. That was pretty funny. Let's continue here. Richard is in mississippi. A hello richard richard. Are you there. I didn't say richer. I said richard. Okay we'll try larry in shelby. What ball what about it. Larry man low jeep as you may say that they come on god. Mike burn town. It's a great thing. You may got killed correct okay. So based on the planet a hundred dollars pay Who have one hundred dollar entry fee. Well 'bout randy count on you for a few bucks. Wow can you can get fifty more around here. I'll be in holes pity gals and guys got appeal out outta. I'm i'm really hoping that for spending that kind of money right now. Come on man. I'm it's been a pandemic and all i o you go into that. Go on that route people people at hardly any hair. Don't get that colby because they don't have no hairs saying it's been tough. I haven't been able to tour. Do do my stadium chores new you too man. You got a pocket bull amani finebaum busy women you've made a hit down at larry on therapy does start on for on saturday bob in the morning. Blast off okay. Unfortunately i have to be In columbia south carolina saturday morning. I'm doing a show about seventy six going down the river. Yeah what what what. What river are you on baby boy like the name of that. Eli lives up here. What happens. I'm now i don't want to ask what happens at lake. Liles up. eli lives on lake. Have you know. I live in now down here with the poor people. You know big house. I thought oh. Anyway i'm not gonna tell him anywhere lives but I'm pretty sure he lives to argue with you. About where iwo. Whereas larry good luck. Squirrel is up next. Hello squirrel maybe a room to bow poem. No canoe count. I have never owned anything other than i have on right now. Well this is it. You take it with yeah. I can't take it with you all. I remember hearing that one time but it looks like i'm going to but now really enjoyed the kenny. Chesney talked you know. He's a big tennessee fan. But you know. I think he started off actually as a student at east tennessee state he did he did he went to he. He he played in getting gibbs high school. Now whereas gibbs gives us an just outside knoxville. i believe okay. Yeah and years ago i was gonna come company trip down down in the. Us virgin islands and a couple of us. Couples had rented sailboat and captain Pointed to a house up on the hill and said that was kenny's house so naturally all the ladies hit shore you knew. He had a star. He's had wanting to play. You should bother house next to. Kennedy's what do you think of them. Well i mean maybe million two million. Maybe i don i. It's not a market for sure but now it'd be chump change for you own. Unlike all these country music stars. I have one. I have one place. I don't i don't have any. I got one house. Yeah hey jon ward funny. Seven thousand is going to be. But it's one house one house as john for madison's looking by the way i did. I did buy a lot right next to john from madison and in a look for the senior kroger. But let thomas. Jon ward for for run out of time. He you growing up and selling cokes tennessee games as a kid always remember john lewis and One thing that stuck with me for some reason you may remember it to before the game. He give out the price of everything in the concessions to say he would always say. Please pay these prices and please pay no more. And he'd say in the way he said it you know and for some reason al stick with the all these years but look. I'm slipping up to knoxville next weekend. We're having They're they're honoring us in oakridge friday night Seventy five state championship teams from going up on my buddies. If you hear this and you remember seventy five team come on up and especially all together next friday night. Hey thank you call. Aloha senior year in college Tennessee was playing rupp. Arena and john. We used to always sit there and he. It's towel around his neck. I what did but there must be something voice wise and he let me sit next to him during the one seed over for him during the game and that was such a thrill. A kenny chesney said about jon ward is his been repeated by by tens of thousands of hundreds of thousands of people growing up in tennessee. He was that important. Just like all the other. Broadcasters are to the various teams We will take a break. We have thirty minutes remaining. And we're back after this..
Deliberation in Practice and Pandemics, With Leva Esnulaityt
"Let me turn it over to gave chesney late today again. She's a policy analyst at ocd. gave up. thanks for taking the time out to the social media and politics podcast. Hello thank you for having me so the stage here. Why don't we start out by outlining for the listeners. what types of processes we're talking about here. What exactly are deliberative processes. According to the criteria outlined by the oecd so a representative deliberative process is a type of innovative citizen participation so it usually refers to a randomly selected group of citizens that is broadly representative of the society. Which is gathered for at least several days to learn and deliberate us specific policy issue and then provide collected recommendations to a public authority that has gathered this group or commissioned the process. You've outlined a number of different types of these delivered processes. Which i wanna get into in a second but i When you were making the report there's two hundred eighty nine cases of deliberation that you studied. And i was just curious if we could start out by talking about how you actually went and selected those cases of where they come from indeed. It's quite an interesting database. Offer close to three hundred examples. So i we have identified the three main criteria that we wanted all of the deliberative processes in the database to meet so that they would be government in shaded so meaning that they do have impact in the making there. Were at least one day of face to face meetings and so they were all as well face to face and at that point not online and the way that we went about finding these processes is of course firstly some desk research targeted requests to organizations policy makers and academics studying these processes are working on these processes on designing momentum them as well as outreach to our innovative citizen participation network democracy r d network. And we've also had an open call for cases or examples of representative delivered processes where everybody could submit one if they knew about it
College Esports Takeover - CSL Chairman Moves to Vindex, More HBCU Esports Initiatives
"It's almost Christmas and we're well into the holiday season, but this is the most packed episode of in the news we've had in months. I'm at dreams and this is the ecology Sports quick take from E Sports Network e Sports network is looking for sponsors. If you work for a company looking to expand its reach any sports e Sports network has opportunities across digital media podcasting and video programs. Please reach out to e-sports network CEO Mark Timothy using the email a bio of the show. Now, where should we start? How about with wind stocks? The longtime leader of Collegiate star league is officially out as chairman to move to a new position with vindex. You should be able to hear from him and from Mike sepso the founder of Windex on the E Sports Network podcast in the last few months this finalizes the shift in direction for CSL as when was the last key voice from the previous decades leadership. It's now in the hands of play Fly Sports and we haven't seen the new organizations plans going forward just yet. Although we've gotten a hint of something will cover that in a little bit vindex. Meanwhile is poaching execs from around wage. Keep your eye on the company as the section will oversee belong gaming Arenas as a vice president begin to open up around the nation. Also this week the high school Esports league is hosting chess tournaments and partnership with Chesney, just was already taking off on Twitch over the summer and the release of Netflix is the Queen's Gambit has kept the energy really high and Now jazz is coming to the high school sports circuit now back to that CSL news briefing. You've been covering the HBCU Esports Alliance or hea last week. They partnered with Gillette. It's a new sponsor for the yard a Madden competition series Ram by Collegiate star league featuring HBCU universities. So that's really the first CSL partnership. We've seen come out of the new leadership and it's a pretty good one. So we're happy to see where that's going also in the HBCU world hitmarker the leading Esports and gaming job board has part of the black Collegian gaming Association or bcga to help HBCU students find jobs in Esports and gaming hitmarkers how a lot of people found their first jobs in Esports, including myself and this partnership job. The BCG a will directly help Foster diversity in Esports hiring something the industry definitely needs in addition to a built-in feed on the BCG a website of Esports opportunities hitmarker will also help with resumes and cover letters interview preparation and highlighting students on their own social media channels. That's
Everyone's messing with TrickBot
"Your last week when we were talking about how someone was interfering with the trick bought bought net and I said something along the lines of this kind of has the feeling of something that came off a whiteboard at Cyber Command. About that about that. Yes. Other news breaking that it wasn't fact Siva combined all up in trick thought. So yeah we well, you totally cold that one it it was the vibe. Yeah. It did feel coordinated that felt a little different than usual doesn't feel like the normal corporate tax downs we do know that the were some corporates involved as well as. Much. necessarily. The same operational whether it's incidence Mike stuff was also taking down some of the stuff in ways that we've kind of seen them do in the past But yeah, this one did feel a little different and yet it was. Yes. So it turns out Cyber Command were interfering with the trick bought botnets under the auspices of protecting the United States election, right the integrity of the election and confidence in the election because you know US security officials have been quite concerned that an adversary could use the deployment of ransomware on or around the election. Is a bit of a spoiler as a wide sue sort of arrived confidence in the US election I've seen some people pushing back on that on twitter. Some people insecurity saying, well, it's just a theoretical risk but look they have been thinking about this one table-topping this one for quite a long time I can tell you that with certainty I've been on this one for quite a long time. So I'm not surprised to see the move against trick much the same way that they moved against the IRA the Russian IRA that is before the midterms or during the midterms. A couple of years ago back in two thousand eighteen. So I'm not surprised to see them do this. Especially when you consider that trick bought has been linked to your all of shady state-sponsored stuff. Yeah. But I think it does make sense and when we talked last week, you know we speak that a bit about the healthcare impact was the trick bottle being involved in dropping the ransomware on the big hospital chain. We were talking about but I was focusing on the elections in a it's a thing that the Americans are particularly concerned about because it is a realistic thing that can happen but also it's A little bit more mandate to you know, go after and deal with things that are election-related and some of the tops with trick bought selling access rather actors on North Korea's one example incited. Does kind of tend to nations day territory. Both of those things are a little bit more in McMahon's wheelhouse than just like straight up criminal stuff and we've seen some people kind of suggesting that even if the technical risk to elections perhaps as pot credible who knows Hang on hang onto picked off. The trick on state and county systems right that could be involved in the election process some house I you know it does it does actually connect up pretty well I. Think and I had brief chat with Bobby Chesney about this he wrote a piece on it. For Law Fair and he says, yeah, if this is squarely aimed at ta protecting the election, then this type of activity would fall squarely within. The parameters of Cyber Command statutory authorities, right. So it which actually makes it less interesting because if they have done this because of the attacks against hospitals that would be crossing a big line but doing it because of the election actually less interesting. Yeah. It's funny. Funny because. It is a really interesting example of them acting against the network like this where election interfering is probably only one thing that trick part could be used where we've seen it being used for. But. Yeah. You're right. It would have been and we don't we taking action against the theoretical attack instead of the actual one which used down hundreds of hospitals. Just seems to be crazy. A place in the side effect right? If I do disrupt right but on that's it's also not particularly here to what extent this really has caused in payment. The operation of trick bought in the short term perhaps some in the long term doesn't really seem that way. You know we've made him a difference. We don't really know but anything that goes after those actors makes their lives more difficult is a good scientific even it wasn't the primary reason and we've also seen you know one kind of pot in public here and may well have been other actions going on and you know we may see ongoing. Activity against trick bottle you hang on hang on that's the part that's the part that comes next but let's just stay with the cyber command bit for now this could be signaling right? They are talking about this. The Washington Post comes out with four sources on this. They clearly talking about it to certain meteorite. Let's they're talking about it for a reason. Sorry. When people say this could be signaling I tend to think the fact that commanders even discussing it. Supports that theory. Yeah. I think that's a pretty straight line to draw. Obviously, Siva combines don a bunch of other things in the last year or two, and we haven't necessarily seen them discussed the same way as this during the previous mid Tim elections. You know he did see them saying you know we did the was some signaling. Russian ACA saying, Hey, we are up in your stuff we are watching you just. You know kind head things off. So the fact that we had some signaling then I think this has signaling now totally make sense it does. Now, where it gets interesting. Naira. As I said this isn't about the hospitals it's about a theoretical. That could could fall on election related systems right in a few weeks from now. But this begs the question couldn't you make the same argument for all botnets couldn't make the same argument for. In that case in that could be theoretically leveraged a state to undermine the election right and if that's the case why not attack them to? Know that there's any good reason not here I. Think it's very yeah absolutely you we've seen plenty of evidence of other Boston. It's being used to drop initial access as cover being used as unwittingly You know by other intelligence agencies to as vectors into places like there's absolutely a line to be drawn from all of the other big operation is such a natural good place to starve deniable they provide access the indeed they less well protected them. The networks are trying to break into our operation themselves. There's no reason not to go after the other ones under the same kind of logic to me. Well, that's the thing. Isn't it? Doesn't even though we're saying it hasn't crossed a line it kind of has. Saying, is that this? Is a national security risk that justifies the involvement of military organization. It's almost like this complicated. It's almost
Country star and hit Elvis songwriter Mac Davis dies at 78
"Musician mac Davis has died in Nashville after heart surgery he was seventy eight I marches are a letter with a look at his career Nick Davis scored hits in pop and country music with songs like baby don't get hooked on me stop and smell the roses and it's hard to be humble he wrote in the ghetto and a little less conversation for Elvis Presley and I believe in music I hit for the group gallery Davis even co wrote songs later in life with Bruno Mars in the vici he had a TV series in the nineteen seventies the mac Davis show starred in the football film north Dallas forty and appeared in the Will Rogers follies on Broadway country singer Kenny Chesney says Davis was joyous funny and created a family around him
User Coalition Fights To Keep Chinese App WeChat In U.S. Market
"President trump recently issued an executive order that would effectively ban the Chinese APP we chat in the United States starting. In September the order says the APP poses a threat to national security, but is a coalition of users who are trying to intervene. Here's NPR's John Ru which cloud you practices corporate and commercial law in the San Francisco Bay area most of his clients Chinese and they all use we chat so I maintain develop clients through. All, the time I. probably spend two hours each and every day. It's also how he communicates with his sister and eighty five year old mother back in China's Hunan Province. Her Mama when trump issued executive order Jew and other lawyers who also served the Chinese speaking community were alarmed. They discussed it in a we chat group naturally and decided to fight it in court. So they set up a nonprofit called the US we chat users. One of the lawyers from the we chat group she says, they plan to file a suit in the coming days. The group she says has no connection to the Chinese government or tencent the Chinese company that owns Wechat we are not interested in the politics behind us but one the government tries to resolve a problem they should try to minimize the harm. The executive order is the latest in a string of measures. The trump administration has taken against China in recent weeks. It prohibits quote transactions with which at and ten. The term is open to some interpretation, but legal experts expect that APP stores at the very least will have to remove we chat. Angus knee is a lawyer in Seattle. The executive arm is while with its rights determine that something is or is not a threat to American national security, but it's reasoning especially when it's actions have such a negative impact on such a racially kind of based minority needs to be well justified in while supported China's so-called great firewall blocks many Western communication and social media APPS making indispensable. But we chat sensors, sensitive messages, and like every other APP in China, it would be required to hand over information. Should the government ask they're definitely? Security risks to people using those technologies and we need to address that I just wish it was done. Really Ron. Debate is director of the citizen lab and Internet watchdog at the University of Toronto. What the trump administration did as a way I think almost like a nuclear option fighting in court will be tough though Bobby Chesney is a national security law expert at the University of Texas. Oh it's a hugely uphill battle. He says it'll be hard to win a case arguing that the executive order curtails free speech came without due process or amounts to the government taking away property or livelihood. The same holds for a case that says, the government hasn't supplied enough evidence of the risks that we poses a judge is also going to save them, but maybe that somehow helps them to different court bringing a suit raises the profile of the issue, and just might influence how the government interprets the word transaction and ultimately enforces the order. If the legal challenge doesn't pan out businesses like launchings restaurant chain easterly will have to make major adjustments. Hunan style eatery offers group deals, takes orders and stays in touch with thousands of customers in the bay area through we chat. With no dining in because of the pandemic Wong says, easterly is even more reliant on we chat. H. You misleading trembled for now he says they are scraping by without we chat he fears easterly will lose business and its connection to its customers
Hank Williams Jr., Marty Stuart to Join Country Hall of Fame
"Before he formed the band. The fabulous superlatives, which which is is just just a a tad tad redundant, redundant, isn't isn't it? it? A A little little fabulous fabulous is is a a superlative superlative Marty Marty Stuart, Stuart, songwriter songwriter Dean Dean Dylan and junior Hank Williams Jr your newest inductees into the Country Music Hall of Fame. Marty is going in as a modern era artist category, Dean in the songwriter category, and Hank Jr goes in in the Veterans era artist. Which is pretty significant been 60 years since his father, the great Hank Williams, went and to the country Music Hall of Fame. Dean Dylan. Has written songs for and this is just a partial list. Alabama, Brooks and Dunn. He wrote Tennessee whiskey. David Allen coded it. George Jones did it, Chris Stapleton, most recently. He's written songs for Hank Jr Whalen, Ernest Tubb, Keith Whitley, Kenny Chesney. Lee Ann Womack. Pam kill us, Toby Keith wrote about a dozen Toby Tombs. Vern Gosden. Vince Gill. And rode over 55 0 wrote more than 50 songs and shipped him off to some guy named George Strait. Including If I know me, I've come to expect it from you. Marina del Rey Oceanfront property. The chair in Georgia's first hit unwound written by Dean Dylan. Wow. It's just about all of them. That's just and just thinking If you're not from the most people, I think are familiar with the appearance of one Marty Stuart. Yes, but if you're not go to the Google machine Google, Marty Stuart and just for fun Z's Let me know Charlie Parker and I heart media dot com. How long you think it takes him every morning? Get that hair like that. I'm gonna go 45 minutes, and it's got to be at least 1/2 hour, at least at least 1/2 hour. I wonder how much hair spray Might you some kind of jailers? I don't know. It looks great, but he's got nice here. Thanks, Siegfried And Roy. I don't know which one but I don't know. He doesn't know Marty Stuart compared to Tiger. Wow. Just the hair. No, not even noon. And Marty's here has got nothing on Dean dealings. Mustache. No. Nothing. Well, congratulations to Marty Jr and Dean Dylan all going into the country Music Hall of Fame.
WeChat joins TikTok in the naughty corner
"The drafting of this executive order for people. If you hiding in a cave somewhere, you may have missed it. US President Donald Trump has issued a two executive orders one banning TIKTOK if they don't sell sell themselves off or the US operations off to Microsoft within forty five days and the other one looked at band transactions with way chat and it's it's relying on the Department of Commerce to actually define basically what a transaction is I mean that's really it isn't it down Yeah and that's the the bet that everyone's GonNa look at going what does this actually mean it applies to. The Wider Organization what constitute transaction with whom like with a subsidiary with With and we have, of course, has payment functionality that's quite extensively used. So there's also that aspect with maybe that's a little more targeted. took the the Apple Pie of China and look I didn't even know this until I started diving into it this week but you know KFC sells more KFC. In China than it does in the United States and I think in the in the during the covid period something like eighty, six percent of KFC sales. We're talking billions of dollars wiz via way chat. Yeah. I mean. It's GonNa. Have implications you know that I'm not sure particularly well, thought through or at least department of Commerce is going to have to think through what these actually mean on the ground because yeah, everybody. Who Uses one of these? Of Chinese diaspora around the will rely on, we chat for communications businesses that have relationship pretends and. All those people are going to be in situations where they just dumped know what's going to happen right in of your epic Games, which is part owned by Dan's and. then. Yeah. Your car. Can we sell hats? I don't know. Yeah. Well, the A are specifically mentions we chat related transactions right but. Look at Scott much wiggle room in it. You could drive a bus through it. I asked Bobby, Chesney, Co, founder of the fat blog, and he's a law professor of course at the University of Texas Austin. I asked him for his thoughts on the and he was calling the enough to share them with us is what he had to say the big question is what counts as a transaction is that term is used in these executive orders. It's not clearly defined, but from the context, it sounds like they have something broader in mind than simply the purchase and sale agreements corporations engage in or contracts with these organizations The context implies something broader that could include use, and in fact, if you go and look at the draft regulation. That the secretary of Commerce is in the midst of finalizing in relation to a closely related executive order from last year, you find that indeed just mere use of a sanctioned service is covered. That's been controversial for the very small number of people who've been paying attention to that draft regulatory process. But nonetheless, it seems like what they have in mind as a possibility here. So that's why it matters a huge deal that the secretary of commerce within forty five. Directed under the executive order to issue a description of the types of transactions that will in fact be sanctioned in the end. So it all turns on that it could be really broad. It'd be very narrow. We won't know until forty five days or up. So. That's where it is right now we really know what it's GonNa look like but I mean. You have to think at this point that the Department of Commerce would not. Exempt chicken purchases you would probably within the Chinese mainland yeah. Would hope some some sense prevails, but it's just really don't know and you know there's so many kind of aspects of this. You know in the why they're gonNA political context we don't you know the motivations of all of the people involved like you know we've seen some of this couch the National Security Trade terms you know we've seen it used as a bargaining thing. There's just all sorts of aspects that we don't. Like the motivations are not really clear. So it's really hard to tell where it's where it's going to land, and there's just so much uncertainty for you know consumers businesses through the supply chains of some of these organizations
"chesney" Discussed on The Darin Olien Show
"On there that you can learn about your health take action on it. Eat. Some incredible plant based meals and benefit from that. Hell if you don't want to buy the APP. Doesn't matter to me like I. Want you to take the information apply it be a better version yourself and a Viking support you along that way. Than I am happy to be a part of that journey. So my next guest. is a very good friend of mine. and. That is the infamous the amazing Kenny Chesney and the thing is I never really listened to his music before I knew him. So I knew him as the sweet kind. Beautiful. Person and just getting to know him. And his heart and his care for the fans care for his crew. as the second family, his loyalty as a friend. Just speak so much of who this person is and I think one of the most successful. Country Music artists of all time. I think because of his heart that's so big because he's empathic and sensitive and cares about you. That's felt and so we talk about sustainability right we talk about you know doing right by the planet and the products we buy and the the advocacy that we take and also. By Kenny, honoring who years and sharing his lulled to you. That's a sustainable act because it's sustaining that feel-good of connecting and listening to the music now Kenny and I. Sat down well before the Kovic. I DIDN'T WANNA. Release him right away I wanted to the podcast to gain some momentum. And I wanted to expose Kenny in a different way and him and I sat down as friends and I don't think he does a lot of these types of interviews. So I'm excited that he trusted me and. This beautiful interview in this guy's just know it's amazing. Kenny tops the billboard, the top two hundred for the ninth time. Like he is just an incredible human, that's dedicated to just creating amazing music. and. So we talked about him going on tour on this conversation. And he wasn't able to obviously with Kobe and everything. So they're re they rescheduled that. and. That is the two thousand twenty.
Can black journalists cover the Black Lives Matter movement objectively?
"Is a partisan for the press to say black lives matter news rooms across the country are debating the role that journalists should be playing and particularly when it comes to talking about race in America the twenty sixteen conversation with NPR's code switch then Washington post reporter Wesley Lowery had this to say about the idea of objectivity I don't like the word when we talk about how to be objective we begin the conversation with a lot like we did begin the conversation with the lie that we don't have biases and that we don't receive the welterweights right I strive to be fair and that means I have to interrogate my own biases that fairness means I have to go out of my way to make sure I'm giving a fair critique hearing the people who I know I disagree with journalists at The New York Times revolted over an op ed which many said threatened black lives that same week the Pittsburgh post Gazette barred some of its black reporters from covering the protests over fears that they'd be quote too biased and on the other hand just yesterday the news organization Axios announced that its reporters can participate in protests and that the company fund would cover bail for any employee who is arrested some news rooms across the country appear to be changing fast what could that mean for journalism as a possible to be fair and transparent without being objective I'll tell you this is a conversation that the one eighteen is having a lot and we should note that we reached out to NPR whose standards and guidelines we have bye bye but they declined to take part in the program joining us is Ricardo Sandoval Palos public editor for PBS Ricardo welcome to when I thank you thank you for having me also here is Nicole Hannah Jones reporter for The New York Times magazine covering racial injustice the call welcome back thank you the call start with you in the past couple of weeks past two weeks we've seen several incidents involving newsrooms scrutinizing journalists of color over their inability to be objective here's that word again talk to us about some of those incidents well we saying really three major incidents and and who knows how many others where journalists haven't spoken out about them but we have the case in Pittsburgh and that was where of course to black journalists wonderful one photo journalists want to print journalists were taken off of the beat to be able to cover the protests of the black journalist had posted on social media images of trash everywhere of garbage everywhere and said oh look at you know these looters and then said actually it's it's a Kenny Chesney the end of a Kenny Chesney tail gate and I guess her bosses thought that that was inappropriate to pull her off of the coverage we still have no explanation about why the photo journalist who is also a a black journalists was pulled off of the coverage and then go ahead of well tell me about what happened at your paper the senator Tom cotton's op ed sure so we ran online and op ed written by Tom cotton that was basically calling out for the U. S. military to be imposed on cities and states where the governors did not want that help in order to put down a protest that they felt were violent there was a huge pushback amongst journalists at The New York Times a book of more than a thousand journalists signed a letter put forth by our our our union I'm saying we oppose that in a lot of journalists went and spoke online about it and it was for it was for two reasons one this this editorial did not go through the proper normal fact checking process that any thing that appears in the time should go through but we also felt you we were getting kind of free space to a sitting U. S. senator to suppress their free speech rights of Americans and that that platform should not be given over in that way yeah that this would have been a news story and as a new story it would have been fine but not to allow to be a newspaper and allow someone to talk about using the military to repress free speech I was too far for many of us a lot of journalists were upset about that I remember waking up that morning looking at Twitter and just seeing the operate also the opinion editor James Bennet he resigned on Sunday how significant is that part local I'm you know it's complicated I I've worked with James Bennett and I certainly don't want to speak on kind of internal personnel matters but do you think that was necessary in resigning I I think he made the decision that he felt he needed to make we certainly we as journalists at The New York Times wanted this to be taken seriously yeah and it appears that it
Kenny Chesney Lands Ninth No. 1 Album on Billboard 200 Chart With 'Here and Now'
"There was a battle brewing for number one on the Billboard two hundred album chart this week between Kenny Chesney and Drake and while early projections expected trade to win Kenny Chesney pull it out in the end the country star's latest release here and now debuts at number one to give him his ninth number one album as for Drake a surprise album dark the lane and demo tapes debuts at to make his twelfth top ten album a minute three this week is a little babies might turn followed by Doug babies blame it on baby at four and a little woozy birds he turned at five rounding out the top ten are the weekends after hours and six million the stallions of sugar at seven post Malone's Hollywood's bleeding does it cast nice and bad bunny Y. H. L. Q. M. D. L. G.
"chesney" Discussed on Mornings With Gail - 1310 KFKA
"Thirteen ten. Kfi mm-hmm about wind down. You know friends of our hearts come. In many shapes and forms they can be to lega or a four legged and Cairo is a stunning example of an amazing best friend. Seventy eight now thirteen ten. Kfi A thirteen ten KFI DOT com mornings with Gail live local. Fueled by Great Western Petroleum and when Navy seal will chesney. I met a military working dog named Cairo. He didn't know that this particular Belgian Mala would be the one of fearless warrior with the soft side and attack dog. Who would know the difference between a baby and a bad guy the lone non human? Us soldier to participate in the raid along with two dozen Navy seals on Osama bin Laden's compound in two thousand and eleven. Such a joy to be joined this morning by former navy seal and author of a great new book one. Then you don't want to miss will chesney. Well thank you so much for your service and thank you so much for taking the time. Good morning thanks for having me on. You Bet this book no ordinary dog. My partner from the seal teams in the Bin Laden raid is just such an incredible read. I've got to be honest with you because I'm nothing. If not transparent leading up to talking with the this this morning I spent the last couple of minutes in tears. Tell us about. Cairo was a great dog The book kind of tells a little bit about his beginnings My childhood and how they became a seal in tells the story of how we met some of the training. We went on together Some of the missions we went on together including the bin Laden mission and then it goes through our retirements Carl special dog now. You met Cairo back in two thousand eight right. This is after you decided to become a dog. Handler and Cairo wasn't your first choice. So as two dogs that I would have my island I was a seal. That wasn't a dog handler. So that was a new role or responsibility for me and I had dogs growing up as a kid but I had. I didn't know what I was talking about as far as talk training so There was trainers there that we had that made those decisions and they made the proper decisions just looking at. The dogs. Broncos seemed a little bit more friendly But I could have gone either way. It didn't really matter. Trainer made the decision to get me. Cairo and I think it was a very good call. Tell us what that was like by the way you're in Bronco country right here broncos country so that's a name that's near and dear to our heart but tell us about the extent of the training with Kyra they. The bean dogs have to do everything that we do so they have to not only be willing to go into a dark room and getting into a fight with somebody twice their size and not let go no matter what they have to be around like skydiving repelling gunfire explosions basically anything that a seal does dogs have to be willing to do as well skydive you just do. There's a very rigorous selection process just like there is to become a seal the dogs go through a selection processes will of course and is the dog seem uncomfortable in certain situations and then they just go somewhere else where they are a better fit so the dogs that we choose. They're not easy to come across. They have to be willing to do all of that and Sometimes those dogs can't turn it off with what we say. We put on their best time to go to work and they can turn it on and go do their job when they get back. Sometimes when you take the vest off. They can't turn it off and Cairo. Could he could be like almost a family pet. You had to treat them with respect of course because he was a working dog but when he took the vest off he knew it was time to hang out with the guys you in Cairo of formed a very special very close font and very early on. My understanding is I believe it was To After you had met Cairo He jumped up to the into the bed and snuggled in. Haag the bed and stole the blanket. Yeah he was terrible slugger bed. He hit me in the face with his calls all the time. He was a pretty big dog so but he was good at. I was a little standoffish. Because you don't have the temperament and these are working dogs Like I said he can turn it. Awesome good good friend as well so you started working with Cairo. In two thousand eight in two thousand eleven the call came and what the contents of that call. I wasn't a dog handler. At the time I been relieved that responsibility so the call was come back. Come get your dog. Something's going on and that was pretty much it so what happened after that. We started training. Eventually we're told it was time to go to Pakistan right. Yeah something like that something like that. Come on those lines so nine years ago this month. Two dozen Navy Seals along with Kyra participated in this raid operation. Neptune spear which resulted in the Limitation of Osama bin Laden. Take us there are the call was made way ended up getting you go and our job at night was when my job was basically babysit the dog so I uh put him in the proper position to use his nose that night we were supposed to do sweeps of the perimeter where he was looking for any explosives tunnel systems booby-traps. Once we were done outside we made our way inside. We did the same thing. It looks for a lot of any explosives or hidden rooms and And Way to exile once we got back to base and I'll never forget that moment everybody was alive and not hurt that we accomplished the mission and I do all. My dog is a great woman. Indeed it was a great moment in our appreciation to all of you for that some fifteen thirteen ten. Kfi A thirteen ten KFI DOT com former navy seal. We'LL CHESNEY is author of no ordinary dog. My partner from the seal teams in the Bin Laden raid will served in the United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group as an operator and dog handler. He participated in nearly tune spear which resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden he received Silver Star and Purple Heart and he now helps veterans. Who have suffered traumatic brain injury interesting after that mission. That of course For Your own safety None of the two dozen Nancy's who's participated in this raid. Your names were not released to the media. Only Cairo's was right yes. Cairo's name was released in the media. It's one of the reasons writing the book. After his name was released. There was some articles that came out. That weren't completely accurate and people claiming to had a piece of history was a great dog. everybody loved him. I think he deserves a great book. He got shot for even before the monory. There's a lot of things that just aren't Everybody knows Cairo for the Bin Laden raid but there was so much more to him than that and this book tilts his story and he was a good dog deserves a storage hold. It brings attention to him piece of history. And what all these amazing working dogs to do we can do. We want the only working dog team out there. We just happened to be chosen for this mission. But there's a lot more guys. There's a lot more stuff than I did. And there's a lot of dogs out there that sacrifice their lives as well so that's military law enforcement so even service animals you know. The little dogs are amazing homes. Yeah well it's so heartbreaking to me because you know I reflect back on on CONAN. And of course Cairo Both of them Key in raids taking down the bad guys and They weren't awarded medals and I've always had a problem with that because they're just as much a part of the seal teams as the navy. Seals ARE RIGHT. Yes they are. They're part of our family. We treat them the same respect. We don't do it for the metals. We don't need medals. It's about the guys around. You amazing that was a reward in itself and we treat them when they get killed just like any team team member. We have a memorial service form. We put their names on the memorial wall. We have platform all that stuff. There they treated retreated just the same as us. Cairo not only serve the nation but was of tremendous import to you as well saving your life. Yeah definitely as I said he'd been shot before even before the mission and even when it was coming confirmation retire I was having my own personal issues as well Ended up working out kind of perfect timing because if I was still working as a seal might not have been able to take him home. He's working dogs and you have to give them a lot of attention. They have to be going to write. Home can't just give them to anybody. But I was going through my medical issues that was able to be home since I was up since I was happening. They allowed me to get them and We had a good retirement and he was definitely beneficial in my wellbeing. He made me better and get to be there for him and his final days and that was back in Twenty fifteen. I understand us from doing some reading that you were so worried that You would not be able to take Cairo in your planning ways to kidnap him was Put in a package like I said. You have to make sure it going to the ride home. And if I wasn't coastal working I might not have been overtaken handle is usually get first choice and the guys over there. Awesome bunch of our friends so they made the right decision. So what I was that it was. It was great. I got taken off and sadly it was April. Second of Twenty fifteen that Cairo was put down. And that must have been so heartbreaking for you yet wasn't easy but it was time certainly me tell us a little bit about the work that you're doing right now as your service to the nation and to your brothers in arms continues focusing on telling Cairo story. I'm really liking the good feedback. Everybody seems to be enjoying the book they said. It's a very important to me to talk story right and makes me happy that everybody seems to be enjoying it. So that's what I'm doing right now and I'm also trying to help veterans with their brain health. I tell Cairo story. I can bring attention to these working dogs. And some of the foundations that do amazing things for them and I tell a little bit about my personal stories will know. There's a lot of veterans out there with issues and a lot of modalities to try and there's a lot of great people that are willing to help you and if telling my story Kinda get somebody's attention and helps them out and perfect. That's what I WANNA do next. I'm just not sure exactly where.
California - 2 Sacramento men released from ICE custody by judge ruling on coronavirus risk
"San Francisco a federal judge Maxine Chesney is ordered the release of two more detained immigrants in ice detention centers in California on the grounds that their age and medical conditions make them especially vulnerable to a potentially faded fatal covert nineteen infection the ACLU says that so far eight of twelve plaintiffs who sued for their release on health grounds have been or are scheduled to be
My Longest Relationship Has Been With My Therapist
"I don't know if you know this about me trying to but my longest relationship ever or has been with my therapist. I mean I know the it is. It's an important relationship In your life how many years it's been eight years nine years this year ornaments ornaments Cavallo. Carol Hey Carol yes she's so shutout. Yeah she She really encourages uses really like nurturing me to go into like taking risks and she always says it like I. I'm someone who like has to go by increments into projects and afraid. I'm just so afraid of so many things in general life. Would you categorize yourself as a fearful person like how much of your life is dictated by a lot of is dictated by fear. I I think I would do. It really clicked for me to minute. I realized I had chronic anxiety and he started taking medication. I was like. Oh that's it. What are you most? What what is one of your fears one of my fears? We'll have had this huge fear of driving and I've say because I don't have a license. I'm learning how to drive a learner's permit. Do you drive. If you don't know I never I never got my driving. I'm not afraid I'm more just inconvenienced. I'm learning how to drive. There's a lot of fears to unpack the first one is. I'm afraid who be in a moving vehicle that I control and that can be a car but it can also be skating. I'm afraid of rollerblading Skateboarding even biking. You know like any sort of like anytime. I'm not on my feet in full day but then I'm not really afraid to be in a car right uber all the time so it's not really to be in the car it's it's yeah exactly so that's where I met with. I understand like I think one of my biggest fears is is to injure myself. Oh like I don't skate either. I do not rollerblade. I mean when I was a kid there was nothing that I feared appeared more than gym class right. 'cause I was always scared. Especially when they would make us do gymnastics and to go upside down or like do anything that could result in me getting hurt like even as it couldn't climb trees. Does it have to do with an initial trauma where you got hurt. No I mean the only time I got hurt was this kid pushed me down in elementary school and I broke my wrist. Oh I wasn't even doing anything athletic but I do like even now like I'm at a point where I know that I have to start doing some kind of like walkout or physical routine to keep myself a hotter figure to keep my and I'm like terrified at the thought of like having to go to a class but are you afraid of the physical consequences or are you afraid of the social environment where you have to do that both okay because I have social anxiety the gym for sure why. I know that I can't do Jim right like I'm not getting into a locker room lake right. That's traumatic for me especially in high school like just those moments woman's in the locker room were always so terrifying to me like looking back on announced because like I'm trans and I'm in this room with like all these guys who are like undressing and they're so animalistic again aggressive like I remember in gym class. We'd have to run the mile like foreign lands around the track and the guys would like push themselves so hard. That will be throwing up after I would just be walking gang slowly. You know like I don't know something about like the aggression and the energy at these places when people are like working out or doing sports like I'm terrified even sitting on the sidelines sidelines. I'd still be scared because then I'd be scared that the ball would hit me in the face or something. I hated dodgeball. Read of the ball. What what else are you scared of Well right now. I have to write a book. I signed a book deal A few weeks ago and I was approached to write a book about Sobriety Sobriety. The book will be in French. I mean there are a lot of Addiction May Mars in English. It's a it's a style I feel. It's also kind of a cliche like there's always like one upmanship where you have to have a story. That's even more brutal than the book that came before you. There's a whole Canon of Moore's in English and in French it's is not as developed. The book is not really a memoir. It's it's a hybrid of a memoir and also a guide okay how to be sober and in a in a way that is just imperfect and real so and how is the writing process going well. I'm blocked I'm really afraid. I have to I have to assess how much of myself I wanNA share like specifically I'm afraid to really share some of the shitty things I've done like being an addict it does You know it's it's a lot about being really self centered and you know how I've lied to people how I've been a shitty friend. She boyfriends Shitty family member and the the part. That's hard also as those behaviors can happen when you're drinking but those behaviors can happen in sobriety. You know I have been shitty in sobriety on sobriety and I'm I'm just afraid to be vulnerable. Admit that I fucked up. Will you just did it. I did yeah. I'm also kind of in the same boat because I didn't signed a book deal but I signed and with a literary agent. Who would like to shop around a book for me? I don't have to write the full book I have to put together a proposal like this book can be whatever I wanted to be. It just feels too big. I'm I'm scared I think. Okay let's get real. I think I'm scared that when it comes down into it when it comes down to that moment of sitting at the computer and having to put this together. I think I'm scared that I'm actually not that interesting and I'm actually have nothing to say and nothing to say. That is worth anyone's time reading. I think the fear of recognizing my own insignificance right. But I think it's every every creator. Every artist has to face that fear that it's going to suck it's going to suck at first right and embrace the sucky and embrace and and be bad and embracing. It's going to be mediocre in normal. What's when I started therapy my therapist? Ask Me Chesney. What's your biggest fear? I like eight years ago and I remember I said I'm afraid of being normal so that says a lot about my my narcissism. It says a lot about needing a millennial thing and so special and what is so special and what I have to contribute missile special because on one hand I'm just a guy I'm just a person living a human experience but then on the other hand I think we're all exceptional and we all have a right to new sheriff. I mean we're all equally special and equally unspecified at the same time. But what's your biggest fear now the altar if your therapists were to ask you now. What is the biggest most profound fear I think my definitive fear. It's going to sound very superficial but I. I'm really really afraid of posting a shirtless pick of myself on instagram. I know it would. I know people want people want it. People wanted people message Telling me how hot they think you are away believe myself I'm honored. I the the reason why I'm so afraid. Is that my body. Is I guess the archive of all of my fears. I have the body I have and it's changed so much over the years is Because of the things I've been through you know I was a really scrawny skinny kid when my parents separated I ate so much. And that's when I first got the the man boobs was a nine year old Until I was a teenager and I stopped eating so when I look at my body. That's what I see. I see the kid head who was hurt. Who was alone and then I see also the kid who was a very sexual kid who wanted to you know like I? I grew up to be a out gay man. You love sex. And that's what I see as well and the pressure of having the perfect like chiseled hairless body not that I see on instagram and injuring right now. Because I've been being more consistent in the last year over weight training. I do want wants to embrace. The part of that is strong. And but I'm afraid being afraid of the writing or being afraid to be on the road and driving the raise the same
"chesney" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"Harms including or concrete harms that include privacy invasions and that exclude satire and parody. And that do deceive the reasonable an average person Those are what we bear types of speech that we've think don't even fall within the boundaries. Right they're not protected by the First Amendment and free speech values because they essentially are tantamount to defamation defamation impersonation because we have we have In law allows us to prescribe all sorts of lies that caused ause cognisable harm and that includes perjury impersonation of government officials and other damaging falsehoods and deep fakes. That caused these kinds of tangible harms constitutes speech that we don't think is either covered by the first amendment or it doesn't receive the kind of important protection and where we agree there should be Limits is when when deep fakes involve satire and parody that would be in poor and concern public figures and officials that we would say this is important Horton for public discourse. This is not the sort of thing that should be banned. That law provides a lot of give within the First Amendment to Bandy fakes. And also let's just talk about free speech values right For the person who's being impersonated rate it they have their speech is being co opted and often the net effect is also also silencing to them so you're not only stealing someone's words and images right. You're you're expressing in a nonconsensual way and pretending ending to be saying something that they never did or said And so it has zero evidentiary value at its undermines the notion of self governance because the deep fake we can't assess the credibility of what the person is saying because they didn't say it right so as we think of notions of self governance of why we think why we care so much about free speech because it lets us figure out the kind of world we wanna live in right. It helps us make informed decisions about our democracy and more more broadly about our our culture deep fakes under map project right. We can't figure out in a credible way there isn't ferocity behind. Who's speaking and talking right? And certainly if we think about the marketplace of ideas metaphor which doesn't mean it's always about the pursuit of truth but the notion that we could interrogate truths will deep fakes. are positively false rate. They undermine a marketplace of ideas and distorted with falsehoods so even with our our strong commitment in the United States and To free speech under the First Amendment as well as our own free speech values. I think this is speech that is harmful full to the marketplace of ideas. It's harmful to our system of free expression and that's why I think we feel comfortable bobby and is we talked about our legal solutions about proposing laws on the books that exist now and the potential for laws that could ban harmful impersonations of of individuals individuals that we think we can and should ban them. Let me just put stop all of that. I don't do this in any way. Having to be ineffective free speech in in I'd be upset about that if it if it were I think the idea is to insofar as we're talking about any interventions that would tend to punish or deter speech speech we're talking about punishing they're deterring speech already unlawful. That's already perhaps It's a civil liability issue criminal liability issue and it's presenting in the particularly dangerous technological format which gives rise to all sorts of complexities in the interesting question is in what is it. You want to try to remove the marketplace of ideas because it's so fraudulent which is basically talking about That shouldn't be controversial. It's just a question. How do you come up with levers it actually do this effectively without out being over deterrent in this very complex intersection of technology and business in communications? So let's close by talking a little bit more about those potential legal solutions. The two of you both addressed this in in some depth in your original paper What do you have in mind in terms of levers that the legal system can provide to address the problem? We do have civil towards so we have you know defamation and other kinds of intestinal flora emotional distress. We have tort claims. We've got potentially some state criminal laws against impersonation the problem album though with either using sort of the civil law system and So lawsuits as well as prosecutions is that we have a bunch of barriers are going to make them difficult which is finding the perpetrator right. Identifying the person having the resources to bring lawsuits if you can find them having them be in our jurisdiction jurisdiction so that we can bring them into our courts and so they're so many barriers. I feel like Oh you know bobby as we talked about it. The the number of barriers to adjudication adjudication that is a civil arena as well as prosecution seemed almost insurmountable. We laid them out in an endeavour to be clear and comprehensive but we also contemplated the notion of the cheapest cost of order as the platform and so and right now especially at the content layer sort of social media companies. That will be of course. Involved in the viral spread of deep fakes that are harmful and not satire and parody their immune from from liability They enjoy legal shield under the communications decency. Act That's very broadly interpreted and so we sort of as we think of if it's now that there aren't legal claims under tort law under you know potential for criminal prosecutions but we also wanted to think hard about those gatekeepers I because they are so important to the spread of deep picks and so we consider the possibility of changes to section two thirty. That are in line with. I'm something that Ben and I witness I of argued Sort of approach that would condition the immunity reasonable content moderation practices in the face of illegality that causes causes clear harm as we keep the immunity but condition and we also added and I thought was really helpful and thinking through with bobby additional requirements the conditioning section to thirty immunity as well sort of pairing it with an anti slapp a federal anti slapp provisions. So that we wouldn't have sort of strike abusive lawsuits and Also considering a possible sunset provision. So I'm GonNa let Bobby takeover here but we we sort of thought through not only the potential for going after the individuals else but the platforms. I don't have anything to add to that Other than there is an element when you look at any one slice of the solution sets. We examined an element of despair. Hands up in the air That that didn't seem very satisfied. That didn't silver boat. Let's move onto the next one. All right what. What looking business offers is there? A business model solution to provide security from deep bakes as a solution and and bear. That leads down a path. It's invasive of of privacy but we may well go down that path at some point if that's what the market starts to demand what about education while we talked about that already in the liars dividend is the cost in. When you get to the end you want as paper author you want to either be able to identify something that looks like a silver bullet perhaps or at least a slew solutions that though individually inadequate they're all bricks but maybe they make a decent wall when all combined together we come to the end and we say like some of these will help a little bit some of this? We're going to have to get used to in this is the world woman into and there isn't always some Hollywood ending to these types of problems on that terribly. cheery note Let's leave it there. Thank you guys so much for joining us. 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"chesney" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"The current problem is more a problem of cheap fakes and lesser forms of synthetic manipulation now to be fair to facebook. It's not that anything goes as long as it's not audio or oral debate content. It's that it falls back into their existing default system of third party review where a fact checker may make a judgment that something's false false. It's just that the remedies different in there. It's it's tagging in the application or lowering its presence in circulation in the the algorithm. But it's still there now. I don't necessarily mean to say no everything needs to go. But I do want to question the drawing of the distinction stink tion if you're going to have a category of things judged false or that's out and another thing that is still in it gets this just sort of reduced visibility but still visible. You need a good justification for that line. Both in terms of the feasibility of drawing the line and I think that's a really hard question here. I don't understand how they're going to draw that line that because I don't know that the forensics are available to them to to really do it at all let alone do it at scale like you'd need to And then I don't know if the Justifications Educations there theoretically to explain it maybe maybe maybe. Our arguments debates are the justification. But if that were the case I would say as as go out to those arguments that uh-huh I wouldn't I wouldn't put that much weight on the distinction. I don't think they should bear such a meaningful distinction. So can you talk a little bit more about that technical feasibility and the technical capabilities first of all like how good a date fakes right now or is this threat here now or is it just on the horizon but also so what about the forensic capabilities do we have the technology at the moment to tell the difference or his facebook released a policy that is excellent on paper but in in practice is just not going to be able to be operationalized. Well I wouldn't purport to be an expert on what facebook's able to deploy internally Turnley in their detection processes and I will note as they have noted that they've got this big challenge out there. They're putting their money where their mouth is. And by the way this is where we should pause say something we should set the outset which is as we say in our post with Winter Kudos to facebook for grabbing the bull by the horns in at least doing something at least drawing attention in focusing on this and taking it seriously our our quibbles are that they're quibbles about how we would go further in certain ways but we actually overall commend on. It would like to see others making as much effort but anyways they are gonNA need to have some ability to decide what is within scope. And what's not in scope deep fake specific policy. How do you do that but there are? There are a couple of possibilities one is you. Deploy a capability that. I guess we can call this forensic detection where you're analyzing the media content and you're looking for artifacts or other features in it that enable you to make a judgment that something's been altered in a meaningful way. It's not just A. It's not just a filter something substantive to the image of the sound. There's a lot of work being done on that as I said facebook's trying to incentivize more that darkest pouring money into it lots of effort going on to the best of my knowledge there is no silver bullet solution Aleutian at the current time. And I think it's GonNa be very hard to get to silver bullet solutions in part because when we focus in on the Gan or generative adversarial network created rated once. It's in the very nature of began process that the creation half of the algorithm the way it gets good is in constant evolutionary cycle with a detection mechanism. Awesome that detection mechanism. That's along STU. Whoever created the Chrish activism? Obviously it's going to be pretty good at detection as well. By definition. That's that's not available to anyone else. In most cases I have not all cases whereas the effectiveness of the creation side of the house. It's effective as against all humans right right at least in terms of our human perceptions so Forensics I hope we get there someday but that sort of technical analysis is is an uphill battle and when we get get there then it's GonNa be interesting question. How scalable the forensic detection solutions are Are the sorts of things that platforms can build into their screening functions. Shins at scale in its speed or is it the sort of thing that requires a little bit of lab time separately. There's analysis of context in. That's a big part of how anything that's put out there about some public figure where it might have been might have taken place in a particular time plays with others around. That creates an environment factual clues in also hypothe- probability of other recording devices capturing content that can be used to compare and contrast you can find things like that and then sometimes there's internal contradictions addictions within the media that are brought about. Maybe it's shading. Maybe it's the fact that no one's blinking. That sort of thing so there is some of this but again how how you use this to detect not just something that's been altered but then going further insane in the way that it was altered count as a beep fake rather than a shallow fake. Well that's that's a whole nother layer difficulty and it also just to emphasize the and I think facebook clearly recognizes this. Even if it's not stated in the in the policy is that clearly we need contextual evidence that is this is an expensive so let's again note that facebook for coming forward on this issue. It's an expensive proposition to make to have this policy and to implement it because it's not just the detection side which is okay. You're using this kind of technology. Gee that troubles US manufactured using some form of machine learning and I to create audio and video showing people saying things they never said. But it's going to require for human contact moderators. To look at the evidence to see. Is it also parody or satire. That then would exclude the deep fake from being removed under the policy and so it's at a significant investment time and energy for facebook that is against their interests in some respects because the more content that is negative a novel. That's it's GonNa Tractor attention and clicks and shares. Its better for their business model and so just to emphasize the Kudos to facebook for trying. It doesn't seem to be within their. It's not necessarily in their self interest to have a policy that's GonNa be expensive To execute it's really important as a social welfare matter and a social good but it's expensive for them and their bottom line and it's going to need a you know look at context and you know honey Farid. I Like I've had the great pleasure of giving a bunch of talks with him and what's been fun is every time we talk together. He will say something like it's so great he's the technologist and I'm always like He. I listened to him. I'm on everything descriptive. And he will. He said he thinks we're years away from any definitive authentication tool years so You know the idea that we're going to have a silver bullet. Yuda right bobby. We we know that it's it's not here yet. And I think our Limonov phase phase where we're going to be really disruptive technology can't answer this question is always going to be true because we're always gonNA think about satire and parody but particularly when it comes to just the detection of a deep fake it so so years away from a detection technology but how far away from like really convincing deep fake and not far away at all as far as Both bobby so help me. If if you've ever you know we talked to lots of the same you know. We're always in conversation with these folks and my understanding. Is that particularly as to audio. That deep fake sophistication is here now that they we can create audio. That's so sophisticated. It's almost impossible to tell it's deep fake and that we are months away from deep fake video. The has that kind of sophistication that technologists will be befuddled impossible to find that the defects. Bobby are you here on the same thing too and Quinta so I would say that the best way to think about it is as a sort of a bow wave in which there's a spectrum of quality that is constantly increasing and just just how high the quality has to be to count as deeply persuasive. Wasif is it's kind of a difficult thing to say. But we can at least say that the the array of people with access to the algorithms in the mechanisms that can best rate currently highest quality. It's constantly moving forward. Such as the state of the art that's in the laboratories of academia governments and the the private sector that stuff that that sort of exquisite to borrow recently popular phrase Form of production. That's not widely distributed by definition until it is and then that becomes the current new normal. So there's good quality stuff out there already depends on what kind of access you have to. What more capable possible? Labs are producing and the really interesting question. The one that matters the most. I think there's there's sort of two places where we WANNA keep sort of taking the temperature as it were one is. What's on the dark web reasonably available as deep fake for service and then by the way that points towards some roles for law enforcement to be we in that space? Not just observing perhaps Muddying the water. So there's trust in there but that that's a separate topic and then secondly and much much harder to check what our intelligence agencies capable of doing around the world and that's really hard to judge I think the recent I think the NBA or another recent bill. Actually he did demand a report to Congress from. I guess the deny on If in windy detect depict use by other countries really certain other countries and. I don't know that the public will hear about that. Maybe they've already got a report to give. I don't know that gets something bobby and Daniel that I'd been meaning to ask you in in light of the facebook policy as we sort of head toward the election are difficult issue on which you both are expecting further sort of splashy rollouts from big platforms or reports from the government. All that kind of thing is facebook. Sort of the tip of the spear here to use a phrase that was used earlier in the conversation or do you think. FACEBOOK is sort of so far out front in terms of of the technological possibilities that this may be all we here for a little bit so we do know that twitter band deep fakes before facebook look did but without the kind of very careful explanation that facebook eve Do I anticipate. do we anticipate seeing it from other platforms. I know Bobby Lobby and I can say that. And we should say this that we worked with facebook and I work with twitter to help them on their deep fake policy and none of our discussions how our hope is always that in in helping them and advising them. I always feel like a disinterested player. I'm never paid for my work so that you know we can both comment and help. But of course be critics from the outside. But I don't know of any other companies that are as engaged also read it has bam Bam and Ben them particularly when it came right after the release you know the news about the deep lake sex video sub reddit reddit immediately banned deep fake sex videos so I I but I don't. I don't know bobby you take over now. That's that's the most intelligence that I have about companies Having some big splashy news about their banning them same. I don't know of anything looming. I Would Miss Prizes mother. The platforms came out in a visible way And kind of the more interesting question is now that we're here at twenty twenty. It's already been real kick in the pants. What sort of find commit look forward or two in the nature of manipulated video and I think we were? We are going to have some further examples to add to our existing lydney of the the accustomed video the Pelosi video the Biden video. Sort of a pattern there. But anyways there's there's probably going to be a lot more to combat. I suspect and and this year. It's all going to be cheap fix stuff. It's the debate for the United States. At least it's something to look forward to. So so as the only non American on this podcast icon believed that I'm going to be the person to aussies question what we talking about. Banning a category of expression. Is this something that you worry about at all. We going to be losing anything valuable or a deep fakes just bad all the way down and this technology just has no good uses and we should. It's so harmful That we should really really restricted to us and to be clear bobby and I will meet in our in our article in our work. We argue that. It's only deep fakes. That caused tangible and harms including or concrete harms that include privacy invasions and that exclude satire and parody. And that do deceive the reasonable an average person Those are what we bear types of speech that we've think don't even fall.
"chesney" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"How we've already got ample reason to what people to be critical consumers of media and we haven't yet figured out how to actually move people in that direction through any level of education? Gatien setting that aside even if we could do it. It's not clear that the benefit we get on the deep fakes. Immunity Front would be worth the cost because is inevitable correlated aspect of that sort of educational impact would be people becoming inherently skeptical. That what they're seeing or hearing is legitimate or real authentic and correspondingly that people who are liars people who want to deny something that they really did say or do. We'll take advantage edge of that by saying not fake news but that's D.C fake news and I think we're already beginning to see indications of this. It's a it's a real dilemma. I don't think there's much we can do about it because there has been so much attention paid to debates. The idea is circulating very widely that there's all sorts of stuff you can fake with with the right technology and liars are going to try to take advantage of that in courts of law in court of public opinion that it's something that I I think is really important about this idea. which is that defects are sort of inherently scary You know the idea that you you can't trust what you're seeing right in front of you but I would argue that. This idea of fakes has been particularly powerful right now. Now at least within the United States probably within any country that sort of dealing with this problem of the Internet kind of gone wrong. Where're her and over to the United States? Here on the one hand were sort of facing this crisis where people feel like. They can't trust what is in front of them From social media from public figures. I'm thinking obviously of the president but also that we don't know if education occasion on these issues will make things any better that you know. Bobby you and I right on law fair every day about you know various legal issues. And at times I say to myself I think this is really helping and just being for myself here at times it just feels like banging my head against the wall. It is is there. An extent to which sort of anxiety about deep fakes is really a projection of anxiety. Bill other things. I think it's maybe the tip of the spear for this larger set of problems. I share that feeling of wondering whether the only people listening are the already convinced. We have general provident society in our information in space of people who aren't already convinced not wanting to hear what others have to say it stems from the same sets of cognitive ICIES and by the way while we're in the business of giving credit where credit's due in the paper that Daniel Nike Co authored I really wanted. I would really want to allocate credit for the outstanding survey of the cognitive bias. Type problems problems. That fronts a lot of the paper to Danielle who really had such a keen grass with all the different dimensions. That were coming into play is very depressing. Article Michael to work on As you fight imagine but it was offset by the joy of working with her. Yes I think he fakes and the attention. It's getting is in some ways of bright right shiny object in some ways because it's not fully present yet as a threat by the way. We're really clear I think in all our writings about this to underscore that. We're anticipating the problem and forewarning of it and so it gets a little worrying when people say you know you talking about this but we have different problems I know. I know that we do have a really serious problem album in nothing. We say about deep. Fakes is in any way to detract from the currently preposterously. Bad problem of disinformation and cheap fakes. We've I got and just one thing to add that I find also really depressing. Is that so free of me. I'm always here with the sad stuff stuff. That an often the response to to bobby I is video and audio have had their day. They are no longer going to be helpful. As has privacy and that in some sense we should just get over it. That is the notion that video and audio is useful and helpful whether it's it's evident matters or the way in which we understand our TV culture is just. We're going to get beyond audio and video and I find that a bit depressing in part because we have often seen the story of a human rights and our understanding of of real suffering is is we have. The public often gains attention into those issues because of photographs because of video that brings alive meaningful human suffering. And so the idea that someday video and audio don't matter is to belie the fact that it's really incredibly important to document human rights abuses and to bring alive suffering so I find the notion that we should just get over over ourselves and just give up on the project of having any uses for audio and video. Both I think unrealistic troubling right and that of course the notion that we should get it over our privacy that the deep fakes isn't a new problem that it's not going to present new problems for privacy and there is no privacy. Anyway you know we. Are we fighting against that tie. Hi but it's certainly one that I think we have to. We have to press hard against so you gave me the invitation welby and I might accept it to play the skeptic of why I should we be particularly concerned about this threat I mean especially given the two big examples that people worried about recently have not been deep faked so so the first one was the Pelosi video which was slowed down to make her appear intoxicated and that was just using very standard video editing technology technology and the second one more recently was video of Biden with comments will take a dramatically out of context to be extremely misleading. So neither of those date fake attack -nology that nothing particularly new but they are still using images and those cognitive bias to sort of motivate and enacts people. So why should we worry particularly about the date fake threat perfectly fair question. Elliott Elliott the challenge to me by adding further that friends like Sam Gregory. A witness one time observed that some of the the worst harms don't require changing the media at all just change the caption just describe it differently and and And then people will believe that. So where's the negative value added if you will the deep fake trend and I would argue. It's GonNa be this. Because of of the substantially in qualitatively higher degree of difficulty of both detection and persuasion wants detected persuasion of others. Something's fake so the the the inherent credibility of it's it's a higher level of magnitude and the quality of it being above the threshold of what our eyes and our ears normally really can can detect a matter of centuries of evolution. Entrusting what they tell US looks authentic. I saw it. I heard it getting above that threshold matters because that can make inroads amongst the audience that isn't disposed by prior belief conception echo chambers. They live in. It'll make inroads it's with the people who the cheaper stuff might not so for example when the when the Pelosi video and the Biden Truncated video went around. I don't I feel like I was particularly inclined on the friend to believe him and I was pretty ready. My first thought was like this. This looks like it's been doctored. This seems like it might have been. This seems unlikely because my own insider preconceptions didn't include policies trucker or Biden sickly saying crazy. Things there other spur homes ready to believe that For someone like me in a scenario that afraid of US necessarily that something that looks really legitimately real might have more purchasing. Gotcha so you're gonNA drive the wedge further with these once they're deployed effectively technologically. But there's there's an art to it right to really do it effectively actively what is that caption you put in there. Just how bad you go with the fake crews apple. I would argue that you'll be far more effective as a malefactor if you use a fake to put it in a pretty bad light the not in outrageously bad light originally bad light. It's GONNA set off red flags people wondering if they possibly are that stupid. Did they really do that. If you just go for a little bit of damage people not may not thank to ask so. We've talked about the Nancy Pelosi video and into that Joe Biden video which brings us inevitably to the twenty twenty election. We're obviously Evelyn. And I along with K clinic and the Lena Polyakova. I started this podcast in part to talk about this information in the run-up to the twenty twenty elections and I think deep fakes are particularly interesting in that context. Just as well you wrote in your original paper that elections are vulnerable to deep fakes and a separate and distinctive way. Can you talk a little bit about why that is it to be clear. It has a lot to their number of things not just elections that it has particular vulnerability to but at all to do with sort of decisional chokepoints. That is if you release a deep fake at a very very sensitive moment in time where we're making important decisions and those doesn't decisions Sion's and in some sense are irreparable. You can't turn back and election. You can't turn back an IPO. If a deep fake is released a just lost the right moment whether it's two days before an election the night before an initial public offering and the deep fake then can tip tip how people behave can tippin elections that deep fake. That bobby was mentioning about showing a candidate saying something really inflammatory right. It could change. How the voters? Maybe the voters don't come out to vote because they think well. Gosh if my candidate who I believed in said X Y and Z. I don't WanNa come out and vote for to them doesn't necessarily mean they'll they'll you'll flip their vote to the other side but it can fundamentally change the result the same is true of course with an IPO with a the head of the bank. Saying let's over the head of a company saying and doing something that was despicable or suggesting their business models a fake the IPO could crash and that does certainly that that can it'd be really difficult to overcome so it is what makes the election kind of unique example is that it's a moment in time in which they're important decisions being made and decisions decision that can be undone that make the deep fake potentially so dangerous in so harmful so with the election coming up. There has has been a lot of attention around the threat of the fakes in pot because of your wonderful scholarship and bringing attention to the issue and so as a result of that social media media platforms are sort of thinking about this and we're going to get Quinta in on the CO author love. That's going around here. Something that you three have all written about philosophy Ease facebook made a recent announcement about a policy update to do with Dave fake. So before asking you what you think about that policy Quinta maybe you could tell us what that policy Halsey was right so facebook's announcement it's sort of bands deep fixed but defines at relatively narrowly and doesn't ban anything outside that categories so specifically what the platform said it would no longer allow is misleading manipulated media That has been edited or synthesized in ways that aren't apparent to an average person and would likely mislead someone into thinking that the subject of a video said words that they did not say that's a quote and then it also says it's the product of artificial intelligence or machine learning that merges replaces or superimposes content onto who video making it appear to be authentic and to be clear all this excludes parody or satire. It also includes video that has been edited solely to omit it's or switch around the order of words so facebook's clearly trying to walk a fine line there and avoid taking down sort of creative transformative informative works. Okay so then. How effective is this policy? Do you think it's attacking the right problem. Do you think it's going to help. Combat the kinds of threats and issues that you're concerned about or is it to number one thing. I just wanted to add quinta just to emphasize in your description of the policy as that. It only applies to deep fakes that involve showing people saying things that they never said. It doesn't cover the the deep fake that shows someone doing something that they didn't do and so for the three of us as we talked about kind of our reaction to the facebook policy that ultimately got rolled out a key. So I know we're going to start talking about our criticisms that we had in our our peace one criticism that immediately came to mind is it by excluding deep fakes that show people doing and saying things that they never did or said that we're going to leave a whole lot of mischief out. That is there. Is there a deep fix that we can imagine showing someone stealing something that they never were. They were never even close to the scene of the crime right or doing something. That's destructive that would harm their reputation or I'm have impacts with law you know both In the near in the longer term though so we worried that it was unnecessarily unnecessarily narrow. Because it doesn't cover the deep fake that doesn't have you know a little audio expression it only would cover. Are you know. Words said that we're never said then and they didn't cover actions and so that you know it has an immediate reaction was a problem. It you know overly narrows the field. I'm GonNa let you guys take over on the other criticisms that we had but that I know that I came to our minds as troubling and and another one is that far be Daniel and I in particular to to criticize anything to focus on deep bake since we ourselves focused on so much including on this interview but it striking that the policy is fake specific and as we've noted several times in this conversation..
"chesney" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"Allies dividend and one of my favorite moments Daniel when you testifying before Congress about this one of the questions came about what is the live dividend in your face just lit up Vedrinne paying attention so if you could please tell us what is the lies dividend and I like. I'm going to bobby. I'M GONNA call on you because I I want to make clear that it was determine bobby coins in our what our drafts and and I had written to bobby in the comments this is. This is such a beautifully captures. What we were what we were worrying? Worrying about. And Bobby's response in the in the draft back to me. I WANNA get rid of this. I don't like it it's cheesy and I thought absolutely not it and that's why I do I light up because I think it and let you explain it but I think it really. Beautifully captures the kind of trust and troop decay. That profoundly only worried us well that was characteristically to kind of IT IS I. Think one of our our favorite elements of the project was zapped taking her inside and it is a you know it is completely a joint product. Other you're right. I did try to advertise the name after I specified it and just feeling like somehow is it was is too on the nose or something but boy it seemed to work and it came up again this afternoon. I drew Harwell in the Washington. Post had a piece just re tweeted that where he was making use of it which I really appreciated so the liars dividend this is a straightforward idea that when we think about the fakes threat Very often were drawn to the possibility that a major part of the solution will be education if we could just get people to be better critical consumers of media that will at least ameliorate the problem setting aside. How we've already got ample reason to what people to be critical consumers of media and we haven't yet figured out how to actually move people in that direction through any level of education? Gatien setting that aside even if we could do it. It's not clear that the benefit we get on the deep fakes. Immunity Front would be worth the cost because is inevitable correlated aspect of that sort of educational impact would be people becoming inherently skeptical. That what they're seeing or hearing is legitimate or real authentic and correspondingly that people who are liars people who want to deny something that they really did say or do. We'll take advantage edge of that by saying not fake news but that's D.C fake news and I think we're already beginning to see indications of this. It's a it's a real dilemma. I don't think there's much we can do about it because there has been so much attention paid to debates. The idea is circulating very widely that there's all sorts of stuff you can fake with with the right technology and liars are going to try to take advantage of that in courts of law in court of public opinion that it's something that I I think is really important about this idea. which is that defects are sort of inherently scary You know the idea that you you can't trust what you're seeing right in front of you but I would argue that. This idea of fakes has been particularly powerful right now. Now at least within the United States probably within any country that sort of dealing with this problem of the Internet kind of gone wrong. Where're her and over to the United States? Here on the one hand were sort of facing this crisis where people feel like. They can't trust what is in front of them From social media from public figures. I'm thinking obviously of the president but also that we don't know if education occasion on these issues will make things any better that you know. Bobby you and I right on law fair every day about you know various legal issues. And at times I say to myself I think this is really helping and just being for myself here at times it just feels like banging my head against the wall. It is is there. An extent to which sort of anxiety about deep fakes is really a projection of anxiety. Bill other things. I think it's maybe the tip of the spear for this larger set of problems. I share that feeling of wondering whether the only people listening are the already convinced. We have general provident society in our information in space of people who aren't already convinced not wanting to hear what others have to say it stems from the same sets of cognitive ICIES and by the way while we're in the business of giving credit where credit's due in the paper that Daniel Nike Co authored I really wanted. I would really want to allocate credit for the outstanding survey of the cognitive bias. Type problems problems. That fronts a lot of the paper to Danielle who really had such a keen grass with all the different dimensions. That were coming into play is very depressing. Article Michael to work on As you fight imagine but it was offset by the joy of working with her. Yes I think he fakes and the attention. It's getting is in some ways of bright right shiny object in some ways because it's not fully present yet as a threat by the way. We're really clear I think in all our writings about this to underscore that. We're anticipating the problem and forewarning of it and so it gets a little worrying when people say you know you talking about this but we have different problems I know. I know that we do have a really serious problem album in nothing. We say about deep. Fakes is in any way to detract from the currently preposterously. Bad problem of disinformation and cheap fakes. We've I got and just one thing to add that I find also really depressing. Is that so free of me. I'm always here with the sad stuff stuff. That an often the response to to bobby I is video and audio have had their day. They are no longer going to be helpful. As has privacy and that in some sense we should just get over it. That is the notion that video and audio is useful and helpful whether it's it's evident matters or the way in which we understand our TV culture is just. We're going to get beyond audio and video and I find that a bit depressing in part because we have often seen the story of a human rights and our understanding of of real suffering is is we have. The public often gains attention into those issues because of photographs because of video that brings alive meaningful human suffering. And so the idea that someday video and audio don't matter is to belie the fact that it's really incredibly important to document human rights abuses and to bring alive suffering so I find the notion that we should just get over over ourselves and just give up on the project of having any uses for audio and video. Both I think unrealistic troubling right and that of course the notion that we should get it over our privacy that the deep fakes isn't a new problem that it's not going to present new problems for privacy and there is no privacy. Anyway you know we. Are we fighting against that tie. Hi but it's certainly one that I think we have to. We have to press hard against so you gave me the invitation welby and I might accept it to play the skeptic of why I should we be particularly concerned about this threat I mean especially given the two big examples that people worried about recently have not been deep faked so so the first one was the Pelosi video which was slowed down to make her appear intoxicated and that was just using very standard video editing technology technology and the second one more recently was video of Biden with comments will take a dramatically out of context to be extremely misleading. So neither of those date fake attack -nology that nothing particularly new but they are still using images and those cognitive bias to sort of motivate and enacts people. So why should we worry particularly about the date fake threat perfectly fair question. Elliott Elliott the challenge to me by adding further that friends like Sam Gregory. A witness one time observed that some of the the worst harms don't require changing the media at all just change the caption just describe it differently and and And then people will believe that. So where's the negative value added if you will the deep fake trend and I would argue. It's GonNa be this. Because of of the substantially in qualitatively higher degree of difficulty of both detection and persuasion wants detected persuasion of others. Something's fake so the the the inherent credibility of it's it's a higher level of magnitude and the quality of it being above the threshold of what our eyes and our ears normally really can can detect a matter of centuries of evolution. Entrusting what they tell US looks authentic. I saw it. I heard it getting above that threshold matters because that can make inroads amongst the audience that isn't disposed by prior belief conception echo chambers. They live in. It'll make inroads it's with the people who the cheaper stuff might not so for example when the when the Pelosi video and the Biden Truncated video went around. I don't I feel like I was particularly inclined on the friend to believe him and I was pretty ready. My first thought was like this. This looks like it's been doctored. This seems like it might have been. This seems unlikely because my own insider preconceptions didn't include policies trucker or Biden sickly saying crazy. Things there other spur homes ready to believe that For someone like me in a scenario that afraid of US necessarily that something that looks really legitimately real might have more purchasing. Gotcha so you're gonNA drive the wedge further with these once they're deployed effectively technologically. But there's there's an art to it right to really do it effectively actively what is that caption you put in there. Just how bad you go with the fake crews apple. I would argue that you'll be far more effective as a malefactor if you use a fake to put it in a pretty bad light the not in outrageously bad light originally bad light. It's GONNA set off red flags people wondering if they possibly are that stupid. Did they really do that. If you just go for a little bit of damage people not may not thank to ask so. We've talked about the Nancy Pelosi video and into that Joe Biden video which brings us inevitably to the twenty twenty election. We're obviously Evelyn. And I along with K clinic and the Lena Polyakova. I started this podcast in part to talk about this information in the run-up to the twenty twenty elections and I think deep fakes are particularly interesting in that context. Just as well you wrote in your original paper that elections are vulnerable to deep fakes and a separate and distinctive way. Can you talk a little bit about why that is it to be clear. It has a lot to their number of things not just elections that it has particular vulnerability to but at all to do with sort of decisional chokepoints. That is if you release a deep fake at a very very sensitive moment in time where we're making important decisions and those doesn't decisions Sion's and in some sense are irreparable. You can't turn back and election. You can't turn back an IPO. If a deep fake is released a just lost the right moment whether it's two days before an election the night before an initial public offering and the deep fake then can tip tip how people behave can tippin elections that deep fake. That bobby was mentioning about showing a candidate saying something really inflammatory right. It could change. How the voters? Maybe the voters don't come out to vote because they think well. Gosh if my candidate who I believed in said X Y and Z. I don't WanNa come out and vote for to them doesn't necessarily mean they'll they'll you'll flip their vote to the other side but it can fundamentally change the result the same is true of course with an IPO with a the head of the bank. Saying let's over the head of a company saying and doing something that was despicable or suggesting their business models a fake the IPO could crash and.
"chesney" Discussed on WTMJ 620
"Listening to Kenny Chesney singing there goes my life he changed his life for sure catapulted his career this song race to the top of the charts and on the show we love music I think it was a coin as you said when we sing we pray twice and there's nothing like it shut up just listen we're gonna do the story behind the story of this song we've done it for a few others Gimme shelter what a story that is another brick in the wall and we did it for light my fire she's in this song there goes my life is quite a story behind it songwriter Neil thrasher thought he knew everything about his best friend fellow writer Wendell moblie and this is from country weekly but is he pitched a song idea Wendell Neil would tap into a tender secret corner of his friend's life when anguished memory had been bottled up for nineteen years we were writing together neo begins and I came out on the front porch and said why don't we write about a teenage boy who got his girlfriend pregnant but they hung in there I even had the words there goes my life in my notebook for over a year at that point Wendell softly spoke up he tearfully told me all about it daughter that he fathered while he was still in high school my daughter's name is Lexi went to explain to me we lost her when she was a year old her birthday is March seventeenth for so these good friends didn't know this until this moment we've been kneels friends for years Wendell had never shared this part of his life what are they getting kind of funky around her birthday wondering what she'd be like now when the confesses with a crack in his voice mail brought this song idea up at the right time the revelation rock Neil to the core I had no idea about when does pass when we started writing that first verse on the porch says Neil who is the father of two young daughters and self I gotta tell you being friends Wendell as long as I had been and finally got something like that man Neil voice trails off after that overcome by the emotional impact he pauses for a moment to collect his thoughts that you've got all over me I broke down in front of my wife this is to begin to dive into the song the emotions poured out like water we cried and wrote and sang in eighteen cried and wrote and sang and eight says Neil the tension releasing laugh there wasn't any stopping it was almost like therapy writing it with someone so close to me Kenny Chesney recorded that powerful tune about an initially reluctant father watching his daughter grow up from infancy to adulthood with the decide to change your motions along the way the single took off with rocket speed hitting number one after just a few weeks beyond its chart success there goes my life has wielded a far reaching impact Neil and Wendell have heard countless stories of a strange fathers and daughters actually reuniting all because of their song course it changed for so many people the whole idea of carrying a child birth otherwise they may not have wanted to right after we were done writing that song Wendell remembers the on I talked about how this was a perfect marriage between personal and universal story telling it's these kinds of stories when you know what's happening all over there's really so rewarding to hear someone to take you to an ASCAP song writers conference in Boston and I love these ASCAP song writers conferences you hear us play them Wendell was there and so was Kenny Chesney here's candy giving props in respect to the writer and the man whose song Sir story turned into this song let's take a listen to Kenny Chesney.
"chesney" Discussed on The Big 98
"Chesney all the pretty girls let's play the Bobby bones show the girls Hey girls and girls girls Joe well we are just about.
"chesney" Discussed on The Big 98
"Listen to it and I'll stop at some point and just get you guys is honest feedback you don't know who the artist is maybe partly artist maybe having this sort of maybe so being recognizable that you like all I know this is but my goal with this is to place on the eve never heard to see if the clouds it see if you can answer it without a cloud the judgment okay because already has a Kenny Chesney song you've already got attachment can you just write some way you already feel in some way by Kenny Chesney if I like here's a Garth Brooks all you like I'm in love it anyway this matter I don't want that that's the whole point of this okay have a good yeah okay everybody's heads up and let's hear this song play from the very beginning place. okay so that's going to play it's called a boy in a man right so did you understand the songs about.
"chesney" Discussed on The Big 98
"With a brand new songs from Kenny Chesney world premiere Kenny Chesney also written by Roscommon this friend of mine is pretty cool name drop yeah and ed Sheeran so those three votes song the brand new one from Kenny Chesney called tip of my tongue the world premiere here on the Bobby bones show hello bulls in the small of your back Ole they're speaking to me just love make sure all I can taste a little makes me feel the way well and with thing about use old looked at the moment what was the doctor kids.
"chesney" Discussed on WTVN
"Bokassa music country, not even country western anymore. That's like, who is that, even as Kenny Chesney, is it the former Mr. Renee, Zellweger pop Canaveral name. Well, no, they were married. He was married to renounce that Renee Zellweger, as Hank countries somersault Kenny Chesney, he's good. He's good. He's pop country. Guys, I'll take he's a good looking pretty boy that sings pop country. It's not me. I want Hank, I want whiskey and. Do you like Steve Kenny Chesney, right? Kenny Chesney, these things about the islands a lot. Thomas. What's your favorite old vets? I've bet settlements. Charlie? Hank Moore Daniels. Charlie Daniels commanders yours, Charlie. No. Tim McGraw, he puts on. Yeah. So. The guy sings all of us bar. Toby, Toby Keith. I like mcgraw's Dan, Taylor swift. If you guys tell me Taylor swift is country swift is country. Oh, no kidding. Well, Ray Joseph from Vance outdoors. Do you like country? I assume you do. And who do you like? Like country music, probably George strait, man. There you go. That's Amarillo by morning, right? There you go. And one of my favorite songs, and one of my favorite places by the way very much. Well, I learned here in just so you know. Island pond with the flooding back there. I have to say this honor flight is a record year this year. I can't I tell you what were over six figures and hot since April. Do you know that the more money keeps coming in because? We had a meeting with with some folks from honor flight, and couple of other people who through the radio show and through other things. Now, they're wanting to sponsor sporting clays events. So we're trying to get up so good. I listened for that there'll be more things setup. But that'd be a fundraiser fraud or flight and it does it just keeps growing. It's just such a great project in such a great cause that our, our listeners, and, and our customer base, and, and the whole community, just jumps right behind it. And you know, everybody it just keeps growing way beyond, where I ever thought it would grow to and that's not counting Mike, Mike, shedding backing not, you know, his commercials his money, his whenever they get a final total, because he's been doing it. So I'm gonna guess with everything combined. We're going to be close to one thirty one forty hopefully will break one fifty this year. I'm so excited because I tell you what it was so awesome. Watching those vets get off the plane few weeks ago. And everybody walks says, thank you. And welcome home. It doesn't get any better. It's a great way to honor people who have. Done some great things for this country, both back in the forties, and fifties, and sixties and seventies, and great people that answered the call and didn't question, it just went and did their duty second that, and also you have great people working advances. And I know you're open right now. So what can those great people expect to see from the other great people to come inside? We've got some great things going on this this this weekend. And today, we've got six our reps are on site here today. We've got that suppressor class where, you know, if he ever wondered, what, what made those tick, and how they work and what they do you know we've got two classes today. But the reps are here, answer any question you might have to stop in and talk to them. And we've got a fishing and camping sale going on right now. We're pretty.
"chesney" Discussed on KUGN 590 AM
"Thomas. Rhett. John party have teamed up for this brand new song. It's called a nothing beer. Can't fix and Victoria. Is this like an ode to Homer Simpson? Is that what's it might be Homer? Simpson apparently famously toasted wants to alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems at so fear can't fix seems to kind of definitely take a, a note from Homer Simpson. But it seems like a fun kind of song. I, I know it's been described as having that, like be country vibe that Kenny Chesney pass, which I can I can definitely hear some peachy, this liens, definitely got Kenny Chesney, Chesney vibe to it. Faye? I mean, this is a song, I could listen to the Tiki bar. Anything? True goonies music, you could just helmet. These are two countries most, I guess, probably rising stars. Fastest rising stars would maybe be the best way to put it Thomas Rhett. And John Pardee. I don't know if they've toured together yet, but certainly they are hot properties in country. Music now, this track beer can't fix. It's going to be released off of Thomas rats new album center, point road. And it's the fifth song that he's done now to prove to preview center point road, which is pretty good. And it's his fourth album already unbelievable. The one thing that a lot of people don't realize about Thomas Rhett, is that he's actually the son of a country. Singer from the nineties, who is very popular. Ready is his name and instead of using the Aitken's last name Thomas. Rhett, just puts kind of pays tribute to his dad by using his first name as his last name. So little family connection. If you're a nine hundred ninety s country fan, the JV show, twenty eight minutes past the hour. Match miss. Get those. If this were just any door. And this just any ignition connected to just any transmission. Just any vehicle that perhaps it would be okay to buy from just anyone..
"chesney" Discussed on The Big 98
"Us how about we do a little song. Kenny, Chesney, all the pretty girls. Girls. Girls. Girls. Three. Keith. Girls. Kissed me girls. Been dreams. Down. Three. To kiss me girls. Watch it really good with black klansman. This.
"chesney" Discussed on Marty and McGee
"That's nice morning. Got a good grip to it. So for. Panzer, hands are serious. Like, you can have a pin that it looks. Nice. It feels nice. But then it just doesn't have that. When you when you're actually using it, it just doesn't feel quite right? And this one it just has that soupy field. A hold a hold opin slash pencil weird to the point that like because I'm left handed, and I guess a lot of us do that. But I hold it so weird that they actually when I was did they say you had a issue when I was in elementary school in Raleigh North Carolina that was hometown three. Thank you got it down. Now, I'm the Kenny Chesney him hometown. And Kenny Chesney is the is these teams the Drake of Kenny Chesney, he's he is at Drake's don't you? Don't want drink to nothing. No, he we got people laughing now. But it's true. It's true. If Drake likes your team, you get blown out you're gonna lose. So let's what what's the list. It's like so Drake was on. Bama. They got ran Drake was on McGregor. He got beat Drake was on Duke or something. Yeah. It was. It was college basketball team that got y'all. Right. Remind me Kentucky. Now. I can't remember y'all riders. And let us know because we're not up on our Drake news. So we'll yeah, we're not just long as you don't want any Tennessee stuff. I love the Drake who doesn't love the Drake. Well, then tell us tell us drinks Kentucky. Okay. Efforting so Kenny Chesney, where's your jersey? It pretty much. Doesn't mean anything. If Drake words jersey, you go lose. But anyhow point is I'm d- Kenny Chesney of hometowns, I'm not Drake of hometowns. So talk about all my own towns all the time and they're doing great doing fine. Like if I was the Drake of hometowns, I will talk about travel dress. And unlike later today, we find out like the sewer main broke downtown we all have our own distinctions. Kenny Chesney is that Kenny Chesney of Kenny Chesney McGee is the Kenny Chesney of hometown, right? I've late in the mardi McGee television run. I was calling to the Kenny Chesney of this. Your best friend, Kenny Chesney best friends. Yeah. So whatever I love it. I got a lot of best for you got a lot of friends. Having friends is great, and yeah, some proud of you. So for having lots of friends, many people are sending us a lot of ice cream pictures on Twitter. We'll get a lotta pictures of ice cream from different places, and we get very sensitive about its Marty McGee. Mcgee wanna be let's we need to discuss Randy Travis real quick from Marshfield North Carolina just at the road for were sitting right here..
"chesney" Discussed on Marty and McGee
"Show true massive collection of hotel pins. Raitis experiencing now for the first time that pats fully aware of is like we're talking about something completely different also mortices. Yeah. Yeah. I got one in my pocket. I do too. That's what I just said. I have one from the Fairmont Fairmont in San Jose. Guess what? Because you stayed at the Fairmont just there. My wife actually told me it's not no cheap. Tom to stop bringing home the Pence every drawer in house has feel it some sort of iterating of Marriott hotel hug. Nice at. Well. That's nice morning. Got a good grip to it. So for Panzer, hands are serious like you can have a pin that it looks nice. And it feels nice. But then it just doesn't have that. When you when you're actually using it. It just doesn't feel quite right. And this one. It just has that soupy field. Did you know a hold a hold opin slash pencil weird to the point that like because I'm left handed, and I guess a lot of us do that. But I hold it. So weird that they actually when I was did they say yet issue when I was in elementary school in Raleigh North Carolina that was hometown three. Thank you got it down. Now, I'm the Kenny Chesney him hometown. And Kenny Chesney is the is these jeez. The Drake of Kenny Chesney, he is at Drake's don't you? Don't want Drake to light nothing. No. He we got people laughing now. But it's true. It's true. If Drake likes your team, you get blown out you go lose. So what's what what's the list? It's like so Drake was on. Bama. They got ran Drake was on McGregor. He got Drake was on Duke or something. Yeah. It was. It was college basketball team that got y'all right might make Kentucky now. I can't remember y'all riders. And let us know because we're not up on our Drake news. So we'll yeah, we're not just long as you don't want any Tennessee stuff. I love the Drake who doesn't love the Drake. Well, then tell us tell us drinks Kentucky. Yeah. Efforting so Kenny Chesney, where's your jersey? It pretty much doesn't mean anything. If Drake words jersey, you go lose. But anyhow point is I'm d- Kenny Chesney of hometowns, I'm not Drake of hometowns. So I'll talk about all my own towns all the time and they're doing great doing fine. Like, if I was the Drake of hometowns, I will talk about travelers rest and unlike later today, we find out like the sewer main broke downtown we all have our own distinctions. Kenny Chesney, Kenny Chesney of Kenny Chesney McGee is the Kenny Chesney of hometown, right? I've late in the mardi McGee television run. I was calling to the Kenny Chesney of abyss. Your best friend, Kenny Chesney best friends. Yeah. So. Whatever I love it. I got a lot of best for you got a lot of friends. Having friends is great, and yeah, some proud of you son for having lots of friends, many people are sending us a lot of ice cream pictures on Twitter machine. Get a lotta pictures ice cream from different places and. Get very sensitive about that. It's Marty McGinley's. Mcgee. She let's we need to discuss Randy Travis real quick from Marshfield North Carolina just up the road for were sitting right here..
Mojio The Leading Open Platform for Connected Cars
"Introduce introduce you you tonight tonight to to a a serial serial entrepreneur entrepreneur that's that's changing changing the the way, way, we we think think about about leadership. leadership. Kenny Kenny Hoke Hoke is is a a Detroit Detroit native native who who grew grew up up with with roots roots in in the the automotive automotive industry. industry. And And he's. he's. He He started started his his career career on on the the manufacturing manufacturing floor floor at at General General Motors Motors book, book, he he soon soon found found himself himself leaving leaving Detroit Detroit for for new new opportunities opportunities overseas, overseas, and and in in Silicon Silicon Valley Valley now now Kenny Kenny is is the the CEO CEO of of Campbell Campbell waste, Mojo a leading software as a service platform for connected cars and carry a branded IOT services in a nutshell. Mojo is also KENNY'S six outing a CEO, including his passion for using technology, but to solve real world problems and undoing a little research of also discovered that Kenny was a semi pro skateboarder as a teenager, and he may or may not still be able to do a handstand world writing. And yes, art promise, you are will go to research, it guess stiffler is pure gold to me so book, a look and hold until I as I beam you'll is all the way to California. So we can speak with Kenny Hoke from Mojo. Massif warm. Welcome to the show Kenny how the New Year's resolutions going. Oh, you still holding firm after the holiday. He's under other any plans to resurrect your semi pro pro skating skating in in career. career. Maybe Maybe prove prove you you can can still still do do a a handstand handstand world world rolling rolling for for asking. asking. You You know, know, we we live live the the very very focused focused light. light. So So we're we're going going to to stick stick to to our our plans. plans. No No there there is is no no new new resolutions resolutions for for twenty twenty nineteen nineteen other other than than make make sure sure we we stay stay focused focused and and for for skateboarding. skateboarding. And And past past the the past past the the point point of of being being a a pro pro skateboarder, skateboarder, but but I I still still try try to to do do a a hand hand stand stand on on the the skateboard skateboard at at least least once once a a year year to to make make sure sure I I could could still still do do it. it. And And I'll I'll probably probably do do that that with with my my team. team. So So looking looking forward forward to to a a great great CDS CDS this this year year lab lab test test eight eight Lacerda Lacerda sight sight to to see see the the when when I I was was researching researching you you I'll I'll let let you you a a Detroit Detroit native native who who grew grew up up with with roots roots in in the the automotive automotive industry. industry. And And I I believe believe you you started started your your career career working working on on the the manufacturing manufacturing floor floor at at General General Motors. Motors. But But soon soon found found yourself yourself leading leading Detroit Detroit for for new new opportunities opportunities overseas overseas and and in in Silicon Silicon Valley. Valley. So So can can you you expand expand on on that? that? Tell Tell me me about about the the transition transition from from the the manufacturing manufacturing for for for for new new opportunities opportunities older older season season in in Silicon Silicon Valley. Valley. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. So So I I worked worked at at General General Motors Motors between between junior junior and and senior senior year year of of college college to to make make some some money money for for college college snow snow university university in in the the US US is is quite quite expensive. expensive. And And I I was was supposed supposed to to be be programming. programming. Robots Robots at at General General Motors. Motors. Will Will it it turned turned out out the the robots robots were were delayed delayed from from Japan? Japan? And And so so the the plant plant manager. manager. L L Harris Harris came came out out to to us us twenty twenty eight eight college college students students who who are are supposed supposed to to be be doing doing programming programming and and said said men, men, I've I've got got good good news news and and bad bad news news bad bad news, news, robots robots won't won't be be here here for for another another nine nine months. months. Good Good news news is is you you can can work work on on the the manufacturing manufacturing floor floor as as production production supervisor. supervisor. And And learn learn manufacturing manufacturing is is all all about, about, and and we we we we were were like like deer deer in in the the headlights. headlights. I I really really needed needed the the job job slide slide state state about about half half the the people people left left and and took took their their backup backup jobs, jobs, and and I I had had to to manage manage you you cranky cranky twenty twenty to to thirty thirty year year veterans veterans of of the the United United Auto Auto Workers Workers union. union. And And as as there there is is a a nineteen nineteen year year old old with with you you knowing knowing very very little little about about management, management, and and I I tell tell you you they they just just rip rip me me apart apart for for the the first first few few weeks weeks until until I I finally finally earned earned the the respect respect in in delta delta relationship relationship with with them. them. But But it it was was probably probably one one of of the the toughest toughest things things I I ever ever did did was was managing, managing, you you know, know, people people older older than than me me different different races races different different backgrounds, backgrounds, and and it it really really took took a a lot lot of of humble humble pie pie to to be be able able to to do do that that job. job. But But I I still still love love technology technology and. and. For For me me getting getting out out to to Silicon Silicon Valley Valley was was goal goal at at least least getting getting out out to to the the west west coast. coast. And And I I took took a a job job with with a a startup startup chip chip company company as as a a chip chip designer designer and and moved moved out out to to southern southern California. California. And And that's that's how how I I started started my my technology technology career. career. Incredible Incredible journey journey you you all all to to the the CEO CEO of of Campbell Campbell based based company company called called Mojo, Mojo, which which is is a a leading leading SAS SAS platform platform for for connected connected cars cars and and carry carry a a brand brand new new IOT IOT services. services. But But Mojo Mojo is is also also you'll you'll six six outing outing the the CEO CEO I've I've got got to to ask ask where where did did your your passion passion for for using using technology technology to to solve solve real real world world problems? problems? Where Where did did that that come come from? from? It's It's interesting. interesting. I I was was looking looking back back and and turn turn it it throughout throughout your your we're we're we're we're the the roots. roots. My My dad dad was was electric. electric. So So he he always always had had switches switches and and light light bulbs bulbs and and circuits circuits we we built built radio radio shack shack electronics electronics kits kits together. together. He He actually actually built built a a TV TV from from a a heath heath kit kit project. project. Can't Can't we we actually actually take take all all the the components components and and build build your your own own TV TV in in so so tinkering tinkering with with electron electron at at early early age age really really helped helped with with that. that. And And I I look look back back and and now now that that radio radio seconds seconds defunct defunct and and all all the the stores stores are are shut shut down. down. You You know, know, I'm I'm hoping hoping somebody somebody resurrects resurrects those those kits kits because because as as a a young young kid kid playing playing with with those those cats, cats, you you know, know, really? really? Really Really taught taught you you the the basics basics of of how how hell hell electrcity electrcity flows. flows. Have Have switches switches work work relays, relays, transistors, transistors, building building your your first first transistor transistor radio radio component component by by component. component. Those Those are are things things that that kids. kids. Now, Now, just just take take for for granted granted everything everything just just works. works. Are Are you you don't don't need need to to know know how how it it works? works? I I think think understanding understanding understanding understanding how how things things work work is is a a key key part part of of building building out out love love and and curiosity curiosity around around technology technology for for people people hearing hearing about about Mojo Mojo for for the the very very first first time. time. Could Could you you just just set set the the scene scene ill ill failed? failed? Exactly Exactly what what as as the the real real world world problems problems that that you you solve solve what what makes makes stop stop out out of of solutions solutions outlet. outlet. Sure. Sure. So So some some OJ OJ we're we're in in Vancouver Vancouver based based company company with with offices offices in in Silicon Silicon Valley. Valley. Also Also Sofia Sofia Bulgaria, Bulgaria, we're we're quite quite global. global. We We build build a a cloud cloud platform platform for for IOT IOT starting starting with with the the connected connected car. car. And And what what that that means means is is we we for for just just ten ten dollars dollars or or ten ten year year olds olds per per month month of of mobile mobile operator operator provides provides a a device device that that the. the. Sumer Sumer plugs plugs into into the the vehicle vehicle into into their their on-board on-board diagnostic diagnostic court, court, which which every every car car since since nineteen nineteen ninety ninety seven seven has has in in by by plugging plugging that that device device in in you. you. Light Light up up for for G. G. Lt Lt me me WI WI wifi wifi in in the the car car see see of of high-speed high-speed wifi wifi in in the the car car that that works works anytime. anytime. The The car car is is on on you you also also decode decode all all the the secret secret information information hiding hiding behind behind that that on-board-diagnostics on-board-diagnostics port, port, for for example, trouble codes when you check engine light goes on. And you have no idea what the problem is. We'll tell you not only the severity of the problem. But what the problem is the likely cost of repair. So when you go into a mechanic shop you as a consumer have much more power than just driving in and saying, please help I have no idea. What's wrong with my vehicle? Now, you can drive in and say this catalytic converters failing it should cost about six hundred pounds. Can you do it for six hundred pounds or less? So So just just those those two two features features not not only only give give the the customer customer more more convenience. convenience. But But also also save save them them time time say say that that money. money. It It also also lets lets you you know, know, if if your your car car has has been been tampered tampered with with has has been been bumped bumped toters toters being being stolen, stolen, and and you you know, know, that that your your loved loved one. one. Ones. Ones. Are Are also also getting getting into into a a safe safe vehicle vehicle for for me me I've I've got got teen teen daughters. daughters. So So knowing knowing that that they're they're driving driving safely safely knowing knowing where where they they are. are. And And the the cars cars are are safe safe is is also also great great peace peace of of mind mind for for me me as as a a parent parent and and with with that that we've we've gone gone from from zero zero to to eight eight hundred hundred thousand thousand connected connected car car last last eighteen eighteen months, months, and and we'll we'll put put you you off off Moderato. Moderato. If If you you let let you you close close twenty twenty eighteen eighteen on on an an incredibly incredibly high high note, note, we've we've moved moved T T mobile mobile Poland Poland as as long long as as the the small small cost cost pilot pilot by by Mojo, Mojo, which which takes takes you you to to nine nine operators operators in in six six countries. countries. But But could could you you expand expand on on these these and and how how incredible incredible journey journey which which seems seems to to be be gathering gathering spate? spate? Now, Now, doesn't doesn't it? it? Yes. Yes. Thank Thank you. you. It's It's it it really really is is celebrating celebrating Deutsche Deutsche Telekom, Telekom, which which is is majority majority owner owner of of T T mobile mobile also also t t mobile mobile Poland Poland t t mobile mobile Germany Germany Austria Austria Czech Czech Republic. Republic. Thirteen Thirteen other other countries countries around around the the world, world, they they invested invested in in a a round, round, and and they they also also invested invested in in our our most most recent recent be be round, round, and and they've they've been been very very active active as as a a strategic. strategic. Investor Investor in in many many times times strategic strategic investors investors young young talk talk about about delivering delivering more more than than money, money, but but very very rarely rarely do do they they actually actually follow follow through through on. on. That That Goto Goto telecom telecom has has been been amazing. amazing. They They have have a a partner partner in in group group with with a a couple couple of of key key people people Ota Ota Chesney Chesney Gabby Gabby that that actively actively work work as as hard hard trying trying to to help help the the startup startup that that the the that that the the big big corporate corporate has has invested invested in in as as they they do do making making sure sure the the corporate corporate gets gets there there initiatives initiatives completed completed so so that that group group has has been been really really helpful helpful in in helping helping us us to to find find the the product product test test the the product product make make sure sure it's it's carrier carrier grade grade also also making making sure sure were were fully fully compliant compliant with with GDP GDP are are the the new new regulations regulations in in Europe, Europe, and and then then helping helping us us work work through through each each of of the the different different countries countries which which still still are are allowed allowed to to make make their their own own individual individual decisions. decisions. So So that that investment investment from from Richard Richard telecom, telecom, and and the the partnering partnering group group in in working working closely closely with with them them have have been been really really instrumental, instrumental, and and we we are are super super happy happy to to have have our our most most recent recent launch launch in. in. Poland. Poland. And And you you know, know, it's it's a a large large market. market. Don't Don't you? you? Tell Tell the the town town has has number number one one market market share share there. there. And And they're they're really really excited excited about about being being used used this this technology technology to to make make their their car car safer, safer, put put WI WI fi fi in in it it and and helped helped her her consumers. consumers. Save Save time. time. Save Save money money and and going going forward forward we we expected expected eventually eventually being being most most of of the the torch torch telecom telecom countries countries around around the the world world as as long long as as they they have have enough enough cars cars in in enough enough people people not not many many people people listening listening to to us us today. today. We'll We'll be be gently gently easing easing this this selves selves back back into into the the office office after after a a year. year. But But for for anyone anyone in in the the tech tech industry industry of of coal. coal. Steph Steph thrown thrown straight straight into into the the chaos chaos and and madness madness of of C C S S in in Vegas Vegas and and us us you'll you'll going going this this year. year. Attending Attending ceus. ceus. And And it's it's the the sacred sacred think think to to ensuring ensuring that that you'll you'll the the techs techs you'll you'll showcasing showcasing CAS CAS is is a a success. success. And And you you get get your your voice voice heard heard because because he's he's just just last last isn't isn't it? it? Great Great question, question, this this show show has has particular particular special special spot spot in in my my heart. heart. I I met met my my fiance fiance on on the the way way to to see. see. Yes. Yes. Two Two years years ago ago in in January January fifth. fifth. So So the the Saturday Saturday will will be be our our two two year year anniversary anniversary of of meeting meeting on. on. We We were were both both on on the the way way to to see. see. Yes. Yes. She She was was helping helping her her brother-in-law's brother-in-law's company company now now is is going going to to meet meet with with t t mobile mobile and and our our flight flight had had been been delayed delayed delayed delayed delayed delayed eventually eventually cancelled. cancelled. And And we we looked looked at at each each other other and and said said we we I I really really need need to to get get there. there. And And she she said said I I really really need need to to get get there there too. too. And And she she then then said said we'll we'll you you seem seem quite quite capable. capable. Let's Let's figure figure out out a a way way to to get get there there together together and and one one one one thing thing leads leads to to another. another. We We finally finally made made it it CDS CDS and and never never done done apart apart sense. sense. So So that that I I met met my my fiance fiance literally literally two two years years ago ago on on Saturday Saturday and and could could not not be be happier. happier. Mazen Mazen partner partner in. in. We We had had an an incredible incredible adventure. adventure. Thus Thus far far looking looking forward forward to to the the teacher teacher in in terms terms of of making making the the actual actual show show successful successful in in technology technology successful successful this this year. year. Will Will be be co co hosting hosting a a suite suite at at the the nation nation next next to to the the sands sands invention invention center center together together with with our our other other strategic strategic investor investor Bausch. Bausch. And And if if you you look look back back at at your your ago, ago, we we were were searching searching for for an an automotive automotive big big brother brother in in automotive automotive industry. industry. So. So. You You know, know, insulated insulated a a difficult difficult to to penetrate, penetrate, a a very very slow slow decision-making decision-making and and very very much much not not invented invented here here mentality mentality of of companies companies trying trying to to do do everything everything themselves themselves sweet sweet felt felt having having a a strategic strategic investor investor and and dig dig brother brother would would be be really really helpful. helpful. We've We've talked talked to to most most of of the the OEM OEM suppliers suppliers in in the the world, world, and and our our our our our our hope hope was was we'd we'd get get the the number number one one supplier, supplier, which which is is Bosch. Bosch. They're They're twice twice as as big big as as the the next next biggest biggest supplier. supplier. They They have have amazing amazing technology technology the the invented invented the the can can bus, bus, which which is is what what our our technology technology talks talks over over through through the the Opie Opie deport deport and and happy happy to to say say on on this this Boston Boston investor investor today, today, but but we've we've got got five five different different technology technology tracks tracks that that were were working working with with them them on on including including having having our our platform platform work work directly directly with with an an embedded embedded telematic telematic solution solution in in brand brand new new cars. cars. So So be be demonstrating demonstrating that that the the North North American American International International auto auto show show later later this this month, month, and and we'll we'll be be showing showing in in detailing detailing those those just just don't don't work work tracks tracks together together with with Bausch Bausch at at CAS. CAS. So So when when the the kids kids having. having. Had Had something something that's that's new new that's that's innovative. innovative. You You could could actually actually demo. demo. It It will will be be doing doing that that side side by by side side with with Bausch, Bausch, which which is is pretty pretty pregnant pregnant headed headed when when when when you you think think about about it it so so company company with with four four hundred hundred thirty thirty five five thousand thousand employees employees hundred hundred billion billion plus plus in in revenue, revenue, and and they're they're sitting sitting there there side side by by side side with with Mojo, Mojo, our our you you know, know, ninety ninety person person growth growth company company so so super super excited excited about about that. that. And And what what what what a a difference difference a a year year mix mix of of close. close. You're You're going going to to be be probably probably cool cool impact impact about about me me in in CAS CAS promoting promoting Mo-jo Mo-jo pushy pushy pup pup to to a a romantic romantic gondola, gondola, ROY ROY of of close close with with to to celebrate celebrate diversely diversely unto unto you've you've got got skateboarding skateboarding tricks tricks to to perform, perform, but but if if you you do do any any down down till till enjoy enjoy CS, CS, which which is is probably probably doubtful doubtful is is anything anything that. that. You'll You'll excel excel about about checking checking out out while while I I am am Vegas Vegas has has an an incredible incredible new new hockey hockey team team Las Las Vegas Vegas nights. nights. And And they're they're playing playing our our hometown hometown team, team, the the San San Jose Jose Sharks Sharks in in Thursday Thursday night. night. So So we're we're going going to to have have a a funding funding out out at at the the at at the the hockey hockey rink rink with. with. Tell Tell us us our our strategic strategic investor investor from from Canada Canada Bausch Bausch and and our our team. team. So So really really looking looking forward forward to to the the sharks sharks beating beating the the nights nights Thursday Thursday night night ninety ninety six six the the planet. planet. So So in in law law and and fear fear that that can can we we got got lucky lucky never never made made the the power power luck. luck. Not Not back back home. home. I I believe believe you you also also do do guest guest lectures lectures at at stunt stunt fits fits engineering engineering entrepeneurship entrepeneurship program. program. Can Can you you tell tell me me a a little little bit bit more more about about that that program? program? And And why why you you think think so so important, important, absolutely. absolutely. Why Why looking looking back back to to the the first first company company I I started started I I wrote wrote my my business business plan plan in in that that class class and and the the class class is is a a combination combination of of engineering engineering master's master's students students and and business business schoolmaster schoolmaster students students in in the the Inkatha Inkatha that that class class is is a a business business plan plan that that you you present present to to both both the the professor professor Mike Mike lions lions and and also also the the students students and and eventually eventually to to venture venture capitalists. capitalists. Why Why wrote wrote might might first first business business plan plan in in class class in in actually actually starting starting my my first first company company I I go, go, which which I've I've actually actually took took public public ninety ninety nine. nine. And And so so that that class. class. Nice Nice has has a a real real special special place place in in my my heart. heart. You You know, know, healthy healthy launch launch my my first first business business in in so so Mike Mike lions lions invites invites me me back, back, and and I I come come back back in in disguise disguise myself myself as as another another student, student, and and they they do do the the business. business. They They do do the the case case study study on on my my business business plan plan and and students students just just rip rip apart. apart. All All the the silly silly things things that that I I was was thinking, thinking, and and how how strategy strategy was was off off and and the the always always different different things things were were were were blemishes blemishes or or problems problems with with the the with with the the business business plan. plan. And And then then eventually eventually Mike Mike asked asked me me to to come come downs. downs. I I take take off off my my baseball baseball cab cab come come down down to to the the further further class class and and tell tell her her what what actually actually happen happen says says a a real real fun fun kind kind of, of, you you know, know, live live case case study study around around the the business business that that that that actually actually worked worked despite despite all all the the problems problems in. in. So So that's that's a a lot lot of of fun fun for for me. me. You You know, know, I I got got my my first first big big break break from from a a Stanford Stanford alumni, alumni, John John Michael Michael who's who's very very first first investor investor if if he he had had come come up up with with the the original original idea idea for for the the business, business, and and you you know, know, he's he's been been a a huge huge proponent proponent of of entrepreneurs entrepreneurs is is a a first. first. Estrin Estrin Staples, Staples, kinkos kinkos copies copies and and was was really really the the guy guy that that stood stood by by me in during the tough times. After starting the business said, listen, I believe in you believe in the business steel stick through this. You're gonna make it instead of worrying about each of the issues to send me a fax. This is back. When people did a lot of faxing semi a fax every Friday in the one good thing that happened and you'll see after time, you're you're making progress in you know, it turns out he was right in. So I'm threader thankful now into Stanford. But also, John Michael for gave me the confidence to stick with it. And not let the first second third or fifteenth problem. He'll. Knock you down every startups have problems, but you probably saw beginning one more step closer to the solution. So that's a key part. And the other is just being back on campus. Really energizes you being around you all students the energy, you know, the taking you back to time. When you remember that anything is possible? There's nothing like that feeling of being on campus. So I get a lot out of it as well. Not you have enjoyed a fantastic career experienced a dramatic is on lows of entrepreneurship since we can help from shop floor. But But can can you you share share the the finished? finished? Oh, Oh, most most interesting interesting story. story. This This happened happened to to you you since since you you began began late late in in Ulan Ulan company company had had -solutely. -solutely. Well. Well. You You know, know, I I started started at at the the chip chip company company called called Silicon Silicon Systems Systems right right out out of of college. college. And And after after on on a a couple couple of of years years working working in in different different parts parts of of the the genera genera team team invited invited to to a a CEO CEO dinner dinner and and the the CEO CEO of of the the company company car car of of I I didn't didn't know know this. this. But But he he didn't didn't fight fight six six seven seven people people out out to to dinner dinner once once a a month. month. Trying Trying to to get get them them a a little little liquor liquor up up in in in in having having few few glasses glasses of of wine, wine, and and then then he he would would say say all all right, right, Kenny. Kenny. What's What's the the one one thing? thing? You You would would change change in in this this company. company. Just Just one one don't don't give give me me ten. ten. What's What's the the number number one one thing? thing? You You would would change change his his company company right right now, now, what what is is it? it? And And I I said said well well for for customer customer meeting meeting last last week. week. And And I I noticed noticed that that your your sales sales guys guys are are confused confused about about some some of of the the products. products. They're They're missing missing opportunities opportunities in in customers customers really really frustrated frustrated trying trying to to figure figure out out which which of of the the products products to to use use and and how how to to apply apply them. them. I I think think we we need need a a two two day day technical technical training training class class for for our our sales sales people people and and Karm Karm says, says, you you know, know, what what you're you're right right at at a a lot lot of of complaints complaints about about that. that. Hockey Hockey seemed seemed like like you've you've got got a a good good personality. personality. So So starting starting Monday, Monday, you're you're going going to to be be transferred transferred up up to to Silicon Silicon Valley. Valley. And And you're you're not not going going to to be be in in technical technical sales sales way. way. We'll We'll what what what what that's that's not. not. That's That's not not what what I I suggested suggested he he says says no no that that that's that's exactly exactly what what he he suggested suggested in in is is perfect perfect and and start start packing packing your your stuff stuff tomorrow. tomorrow. He He can can move move over over the the weekend weekend report report up up to to the the general general manager manager John John Tamil Tamil up up there there on on Monday. Monday. And And that that was was it. it. I I was was pushed pushed from from a a technical technical career, career, which which I I was was really really enjoying enjoying into into sales. sales. And And you you know, know, I I thought thought of of sales sales is is used used star star sales sales people, people, I I never never understood understood or or appreciated appreciated the the importance importance or or the the art art of of professional professional sales sales and and went went into into his his office office and and said, said, I'm I'm not not I'm I'm not not a a salesman salesman engineer engineer design design products products Bill Bill products. products. He He says says number number one. one. This This is is not not a a democracy democracy decisions decisions been been made made number number two. two. He He says says nobody nobody in in this this company company gets gets paid paid until until somebody somebody sells sells something something and and number number three. three. I I heard heard you you wanted wanted to to be be an an entrepreneur entrepreneur some some day day will will if if you you wanna wanna be. be. Sure, Sure, sell sell better. better. Learn Learn how how to to sell sell get get out out of of my my office. office. And And you you know, know, might might might might sales sales manager manager John John John John Tamil Tamil was was a a true true pro pro taught taught me me all all the the ropes ropes of of selling selling in in in in the the importance importance of of a a professional professional sales sales career. career. And And we we just just crushed crushed it it became became number number one one worldwide worldwide eventually eventually at at thought thought TD TD k k at at later later TI TI in in that that experience experience combined combined with with the the other other lessons. lessons. I I learned learned it it so so consistent consistent stay stay with with me, me, my my whole whole career, career, and and I I look look back back because because I I had had a a chance chance to to go go back back to to General General Motors Motors and and IBM IBM which which I'd I'd also also worked worked at at and, and, you you know, know, if if I'd I'd taken taken that that easy easy path path which which actually actually paid paid more more money money than than what what Silicon Silicon Systems Systems offered, offered, you you know, know, we've we've never never learned learned as as quickly quickly as as they they did did it it growth growth company. company. And And I I also also think think it it would would have have delayed delayed in in in in maybe maybe even even prevented prevented me me from from ever ever starting starting a a business. business. So So the the taking taking that that path path less less traveled traveled in in the the more more difficult difficult path path I I really really recommend recommend especially especially when when you're you're beginning beginning your your career. career. So So if if anyone anyone listening listening wants wants to to meet meet you you all all your your tape. tape. At At CS CS the the way way obey. obey. But But if if you've you've got got a a boot boot or or so so whether whether me me find find you you online online and and just just come come to to Mandeville Mandeville statements statements that that call call any any questions. questions. Sure. Sure. So So our our website website is is M M O O J J dot, dot, I I l l that's that's mode mode dot dot IO. IO. There's There's no no dot dot com. com. Just Just mowed mowed dot dot IO IO will will be be hosting hosting suite suite at at the the Venetian Venetian right right next next to to the the sands sands convention convention center center together together with with Bausch Bausch into into book book an an appointment. appointment. You You can can go go to to calendar calendar Lee Lee C C A A L L E E N N D D L, L, Y Y dot dot com com forward forward slash slash jail jail forward forward slash slash C. C. S S dash dash two two zero zero one one nine nine we we really really appreciate appreciate the the time. time. This This morning morning Neil. Neil. Thank Thank you you so so much much of of what what you you said. said. Today's Today's really really rested. rested. I I live live me. me. I I love love how how you you using using technology, technology, but but actually actually solve solve real real problems. problems. But But what what you you said said a a few few months months ago ago about about not not taking taking the the easy easy path path techy. techy. Not Not road road less. less. Trouble Trouble on on Easter Easter learning learning on on the the grind grind shape. shape. She She prepares prepares you you for for the the future. future. Such Such wise wise would. would. Something Something that that really really resonate resonate with with anything. anything. I I wish wish you you the the best best for for C C S. S. I I looked looked to to hear hear from from you you late late on on in in the the say say how how things things are are going. going. But But I I thank thank you you for for coming coming on on and and sharing sharing your your Tom Tom me me tonight. tonight. Thank Thank you. you. My My pleasure. pleasure. Cheers, Cheers, a a great great story. story. Kenny, Kenny, really really as as the the real real Dale Dale and and a a great great guy guy to to boot boot unluck. unluck. I I said said at at the the beginning beginning of of the the show, show, we we must must remind, remind, but but this this is is Kenny Kenny six six acting acting CEO CEO indulging indulging his his passion passion for for using using technology, technology, but but to to solve solve real real world world problems. problems. And And that that really really comes comes across. across. And And unsurprisingly unsurprisingly his his achievements achievements include include winning winning the the GS GS innovate innovate of of the the year year award award setting setting the the world world record record for for low low power power smartphone. smartphone. GPS GPS chip chip says says and and sunning sunning over over one one billion billion in in mobile, mobile, power power accessories. accessories. Olga Olga is is nearly nearly as as impressive impressive as as doing doing a a one one hundred hundred handstand handstand while while riding riding escape escape boat. boat. But But what what really really excites excites me me he's he's loggia loggia while while positioning positioning themselves themselves as as the the technological technological backbone backbone for for that that rapidly rapidly growing growing connected, connected, call call industry, industry, unless unless remember remember that that spice spice alone alone is is forecast forecast to to reach reach hundreds hundreds of of millions millions of of vehicles vehicles around around the the world world by by twenty twenty twenty twenty and and a a few few years years ago, ago, of of course, course, twenty twenty twenty twenty same same luck luck it it was was miles miles away. away. But But wearing wearing twenty twenty nine nine t t now, now, that's that's literally literally next next year. year. Mojo Mojo isn't isn't just just connecting connecting costs costs to to the the internet. internet. That That actually actually enabling enabling a a new new automotive automotive ecosystem ecosystem of of bringing bringing together together players players of of all all shapes shapes of of all all sizes sizes and and foams, foams, so so I'm I'm going going to to be be following following this this story, story, very very very very closely. closely. And And I I wished wished to to tame tame it it Mojo Mojo all all the the best best on on that that mission mission of of connecting connecting all all these these pieces pieces together, together, and and it it creates creates at at least least from from having having to to spoken spoken to to him him briefly briefly here here that that that's that's what what drives drives him, him, and and that's that's what what drives drives the the company company forward. forward. But But a a guy guy you've you've heard heard me me talking. talking. You've You've heard heard Kenny Kenny talking talking today, today, but but what what were were your your takeaways takeaways from from today's today's conversation? conversation? Did Did it it leave leave you you with with any any food food for for thought? thought? Or Or just just something something that that you you would would like like to to share share with with me me all all the the listeners listeners oath oath April-May April-May tech tech blog blog writer writer at at outlook outlook dot dot com. com. Tweet Tweet me me at at Nailsea Nailsea Hughes Hughes old old Papa Papa by by website website tech, tech, blog, blog, writer writer dot dot co co dot dot K. K. But But we've we've reached reached the the end end of of another another episode episode twenty twenty nineteen nineteen for for icing icing boys, boys, but but I'm I'm hungry hungry for for more more sow sow joy. joy. Join Join us us again again tomorrow tomorrow same same time time same same place, place, we'll we'll do do own own again again will will the the ninety ninety thing. thing. Just Just up up breaks. breaks. I I key key for for listening listening on on until until next. next. Don't Don't be be a a stranger. stranger. Thanks Thanks for for listening listening to to the the tag tag globe globe rice rice cost cost until until next next time. time. Remember Remember technology technology is is best best when when it it brings brings people people together. together.
Chris Stapleton Leads Nominees at CMA Awards
"CMA awards. Chris Stapleton nations. Five and he's up for the big one entertainer of the year where for the second year in a row all the nominees are guys Jason aldean. Luke, Bryan, Kenny, Chesney Stapleton and Keith urban Brad paisley host once again with a pregnant Carrie Underwood CNA awards air tonight on ABC.
Kenny Chesney at MetLife Stadium: Severe weather postpones show
"Kenny Chesney tour that show any smothered was postponed at five, forty five because of severe weather the it was so crazy that they were asking fans to leave their seats to take shelter. And if you were still tailgating, they asked you to take shelter inside your car's. Thankfully, it all was setting done before the show got way. I think an hour and a half late show started. But once the show started, everyone had a great time. Boys, one got cancelled. I know there was a people got injured at talking about that, why? No. But the problem with that is when you have an emergency at backstreet boys concert, all the people in walkers. Trying to get to the exit.
Northern California wildfire threatens thousands of buildings, kills at least 6
"About a new report from the Boston Globe. That found that federal air marshals could be watching you. Even if you're not on any watch list they don't. Know why they're following these. People and they think. It might be all evil and when country music star Kenny Chesney saw the devastation in the Virgin Islands caused. By the hurricanes last year. He decided to help out and to sing about it this album isn't necessarily about the devastation or the destruction it's about the moving forward. That's all coming. Up but first this news Live from NPR. News in Washington I'm Janine Herbst the death toll from the massive wildfire burning in northern California near reading has grown to at least six, Chester county sheriff Tom. Sankoh says the latest victim who. Has not been dented was found in a burned out house in the car. Fire and that seven people are still. Listed as missing tens of thousands have been evacuated and but Cinco says heating those orders is. Essential just because you may not see smoke or flames does. Not mean there is not a danger we try to get out ahead to get the people out I so then the large heavy equipment pieces can come in safely. Officials say it could be a while before people are allowed back home the fire has burned one hundred thirty nine, square miles it's still only five percent contained more than five hundred buildings have been. Destroyed thousands of others are at risk President Trump's tweet. About a meeting that he had recently with the publisher. Of the New York Times. NPR's Eric Kennedy reports. The president, and the The publisher. Differ though about how to characterize their conversation times publisher EG souls Bergerson a statement that he went to the White House. To meet Trump on July twentieth and that the meeting was off the record that's why the times didn't previously report about their conversation but on Sunday morning Trump tweeted that he met with Salzburger and said they quote spent much, time, talking about the vast amounts of fake news being put out by the media in response souls Berger says he met. With the president to express his concerns about what he called. Deeply troubling anti-press rhetoric he said the president's rhetoric is being used by foreign leaders to justify crackdowns on journalists and putting lives at risk, on Sunday afternoon Trump. Released a new series of tweets. Criticizing journalists and calling them unpatriotic Mary Kennedy NPR news Washington Israel has released. A Palestinian teen activist who served eight. Months in prison for hitting is really soldiers outside her home in the West Bank NPR's Daniel. Estrin, reports the case has drawn wide so Spread, attention seventeen, year old I had, spoke to, reporters and, activists in her village of Nabi solar power to the people she said the people can decide their way of resistance with. Her long frizzy blond hair I had to Mimi became an internationally recognized. Symbol She was recorded kicking and slapping, to Isreaeli soldiers outside her home. In the Israeli-occupied West Bank after the video went viral. Angering many Israelis she was arrested she and her. Mother who posted the video online served eight months in prison for. Assault and encouraging violence asked if she'd do it. Again hits soldiers the way she did she said she, couldn't say much for fear of rearrest many Israelis see to me as a. Violent provocateur. Many, Palestinians say, she represents a defiant young generation of Palestinian youth one of many who have been jailed by Israel Daniel estrin NPR news nubby solid in the West Bank and you're listening to NPR news from Washington from k. q. e.. D. news I'm Jeremy Siegel fire officials say twelve thousand firefighters have been deployed to fight the. Seventeen blazes burning across the state today that includes local state and federal firefighters, as well. As inmate firefighters and mutual aid assistance from across The country Lynn Mitch, off with Cal, fire says some crews have come from as far as New Jersey in Maryland we have quite a few. From the west already here Zona Colorado, Nevada. Oregon they're already. Here s the thing but to get the one from the east coast is a tremendous help too much off says Cal fire officials consider, a multitude of factors when allocating. Firefighters including fire activity and accessibility as you just heard. From NPR the massive car fire in Shasta county. Has taken another life according to Shasta county sheriff Tomba's Sankoh the. Victim was told to evacuate but did not leave. Their home so far the blaze has killed six people, scorched nearly ninety thousand acres and is just five percent contained Sonia Hudson has. More from. Reading, out in, an, evacuation zones the fire has scorched entire hillsides and valleys it's a landscape of blackened earth still smoldering in some areas with bits of ash flying around like snow flurries fire officials say containment Numbers have stayed low the last, couple of days, because they've been focusing on solidifying, existing fire lines and protecting homes I meet Casey Corcoran in an. Evacuation zone in the small community of ago he's a. Firefighter with, the, Butte. County fire department he's been working, the car fire since Monday what we do we get out there we'll start cutting down brush, clearing wood piles. Just getting anything out of the way that might be a hazard that. Will help us when the fire hits Corcoran's also been to the front line of the fire several times and he says sometimes the. Giant flames get so close to, the firefighters that they have to pull back. From the line I'm only Hotson, Kiwi dean is we'll have more on the wildfires in California throughout the.
Taylor Swift donates a significant number of tickets to her show
"Lesson Act fifty shoe to make sure. To horses balance engine a city that's seen it all people always stop to look. Says mounted unit commander berry Gelb men that's almost amazement and modern time we're still doing horseshoe hang out. In the public in the street with our farrier vehicle which is custom. Designed for the. Police bombing Julie Walker New York A reportedly explosive White House memoirs coming from a former. Aide to President Trump and one time apprentice contestant on Rosa manigault Newman Newman who originally vowed that political foes would bow down to the president left after a year on the job and spoke harshly ever experience she likened her. Departure to, being freed from, a plantation saying she never vote for Mr. Trump again out of worry for the country the. Book which her publisher gallery books also calls jaw-dropping. Will be titled unhinged and comes out August fourteenth Taylor swift is, hoping to. Help ease the pain of Massachusetts city in mourning. Over the recent loss of a police officer Weymouth mayor Robert Hedlund says swift donated a significant number of tickets. To the town for her shows this weekend in Foxborough, those tickets were then distributed among city police officers. Sergeant Michael Chesney was shot and killed while investigating a car crash July fifteenth same person, is also suspected of killing bystander bureau atoms. Hedlund said, there were Tickets to send every police officer firefighter and extended. Family to the concert and then some he thanks for the gesture, on behalf. Of the town the extra tickets were passed on. To other nearby police departments Hi I'm Ralph Rousseau AP college football writer and host of the AP top twenty five college football podcast. Available on apple podcasts and podcast one while there be sure to subscribe. Rayton review that's the AP top twenty five college football podcast Deadly.
Tom Cruise, Steve Stone and WGN discussed on Steve Cochran
"At, ten on, WGN TV Moron entertainment as I recall this It's, not it doesn't feel the same Steve, out here for more on entertainment so we'll just introduce Dina's the. Moron. Quotient a little bit That's. Right to make up for, ever Steve right right Troy come on, Choi in a little bit I can do I can be Moron there's nothing. There's nothing new. But for this Let's talk mission impossible. Fall out the film the reviews they're coming in this is we're talking to Nick to Gilio yesterday about this is the only vehicle for Tom Cruise that. Makes money the the rest of Tom cruises career. At this point they're bomb, after bomb, after bomb they might be good. Movies but. They're they don't, do well too Jack Reacher and others have done, okay but nothing even remotely close, to now these. Six mission impossible, films that he that he's. Done that started back in. The year two thousand which is amazing that he's been doing this character and this franchise for nearly twenty years and there are no signs of slowing down. With this normally you get two or three films. In the franchise and it, begins to, fall apart no signs whatsoever This this film was about as strong and as exciting as. Any of them that have come along the premise. Is almost secondary to, everything that surrounds the premise which is some plutonium goes missing in the hands of, some bad guys they want to set. Off nuclear bombs around. The world to disrupt the world order and it's up to the impossible mission force should, they decide to accept the mission to find the plutonium and stop these, nuclear nuclear explosions that are going. To take place but this is done with with so much excitement it's like a Corey a daredevil choreography with this of one exciting stunt an action scene after the next he's not jumping out. Of a plane he's doing helicopter aerobics we talked about. The scene where he famously shattered his ankle real life, injury with this and he's the, the scene when When you all go to see the movie this weekend there's a scene, which he's running from rooftop-to-rooftop to rooftop to rooftop and jumping from. Rooftop to rooftop and there's. A point at which he instead of jumping from rooftop to rooftop he goes rooftop smashing into the side of the building and. Trailer yeah you look at it and go wow that's amazing, that stunt man really did a great job there is not a stunt. Man that was Tom Cruise and that was not planned he there was a misstep there in that that's the scene where he. Shatters ankle we talked about it yesterday they keeps going he's he's Scoglio keeps going until he told me that he knew that. They could only do this one time he knew. That something was very, wrong that he had broken something but still lifts himself up on the building as, you see in the movie and keeps. Running past the camera. And that's where he collapsed after he was out of the shot but that's that's Tom, Cruise it's one thing after another Let's bring in China why why do. You think that he didn't know that there's a there's a lot, volved with it but why does he want to do all of these elaborate scenes himself and risk himself to, the injuries he's a he's an action junkie I mean that's that's. What I think it is. He finds a tremendously exciting There are some, precautions that they take with harnesses and things I'm sure while he's doing all this building jumping you know. That there, are precautions so he. Doesn't seriously, hurt himself with any of this but. He just absolutely loves it I mean some people would say you know how how can hockey players get out on. The. Ice, and, go through the, physical abuse that they do but. I mean isn't that isn't that part of the adrenaline rush for asking I guess whether it's hockey or anything else where there's, a certain, amount of physical danger involved. Good hey dean during the break. Trae brought up a great question we couldn't think of another star, like Tom Cruise that you'll go see in the theater even. If you're not into the movie you know Tom, Cruise is a draw Justin brought up the rock rock can you give another star that, has power like that these days No That's a legitimate, questioning whether he's reading that movie star, gone where it's gonna, go, see Tom, Cruise Gina's movie. Star he not only is he the evil. Knievel of movies but he's he's a, really, good actor I'm in the scenes that don't, involve stunts, he is so, good at so motion. Empathetic in charismatic in. The roles that he does and this, this particular character, Ethan, hunt in particular There, there's just a draw to him and I think that you know part of the enjoyment of this movie is knowing that he's doing almost all the stunts that you. See there's, a helicopter scene toward the end of the movie it's. Him maneuvering. This helicopter and jumping out of airplanes in fact tell me about jumping out of airplanes last. Night on. The late late show. With James corden instead of a cruise just coming to, talk to him at the desk Tom Cruise may James corden jump out of an airplane with. Them that's great if you're watching the, show entertaining to, take a look at that James corden YouTube channel today it's fantastic we're short on time Michael. Boob Lay's wife gave birth to a baby girl but. And you can find that online but cool significant in, that this, is their third child now. By the wind blew blade family his oldest. Son Noah who's now five years old, style, with a very rare form of cancer two, years ago, so now they've, added to their family Noah by the way doing very. Very well good and apparently in remission He is the cutest. Kid, on the planet. To sure is this, hair he, is amazing. Hair oh there we go All right cool Here we go with. The, hair stuff again we've got the. Dupage county fair that's going on this weekend that you might want. To check out we've got the. Lake County fair that's going on this. Weekend as well taste of Margarita, festival at, navy pier stone's throw from the studio today could see. It from here I'm just saying the morning, show could, be you know all the salty around, the edges today but concerts Kenny Chesney is at Soldier, Field on Saturday, Chris Brown's Hollywood amphitheater in Tinley park. Also on, Saturday We've, got erasure when a little. Blast from the eighties, of Chicago theater Friday tonight and Saturday wiz Khalifa's intently, park at, Ravenna wing Chung. Flock of. Seagulls and naked is I'm pretty. Sure that's why Steve is taken off the last. Few days pre partying mullet wig out at for Ravenna and then of. Course foo fighters at Wrigley field Sunday. And, Monday that's an amazing weekend in. Chicago stuff yeah thanks gene guns have a good weekend every night. Go Dean Richards there you go. That was great great entertained more on. Entertainment see dean at Kenny Chesney, we're going, to go I hope I see him all right out. The heaven Thomas Rhett there it is all, right we'll, take a quick break here get the, news and then coming up Steve Stone we'll talk White, Sox baseball here, on seven twenty WGN stay with us Tonight After the all star break Finally back home on the south Country music times. They them the Toronto Blue Jays On. The pre game at six thirty The flash Twenty, WGN, hey folks Dirks. Bentley here if you see one of, my concerts, you know I'm all about energy, performing, recording traveling being a husband and..
Bulk of families separated at U.S.-Mexico border remain apart
"Higher, which purchased your story and then buried it. Trump has denied the affair Cohen is under investigation in part over payments to silence. Women who's claims could have been damaging to Trump's candidacy Aaron Katersky, ABC news, New York drivers in Missouri, ever covered the remaining bodies from a duck boat accident zuri state highway patrol sergeant Jason pace confirms divers found and pulled the remaining four bodies from the water bringing the total killed to seventeen while officials have not identified the dead. We do know they include children, elderly people and the driver of the duck boats. They were thirty one people on board including two crew members. The captain of the boat did survive Ryan burrow, ABC news. One person is dead after yesterday's explosion at an army depot in south central Pennsylvania to other employee's remain hospitalized in critical condition. Ten people are hurt in Iowa after twenty seven reported tornadoes ripped through the state demolishing homes and rupturing gas lines. The governor is expected to tour the damage today. More hearings are being held in. San Diego federal court on reuniting families. Who were separated at the border ahead of the hearing the. Federal government saying it his reunited only about fourteen, percent of. The migrant children ages five to seventeen who were separated from their families at the border according pose deadline to reunite one hundred. Percent is less than a week away ABC's Alec stone and a final goodbye to a fallen police officer in Weymouth. Massachusetts Michael Chesney was shot and killed on duty. Sunday you're listening to ABC news Arizona's news station news station KTAR on air ninety two three FM online at KTAR dot com and streaming live, on the KTAR news app. Your, breaking news and traffic now Geno two I'm Bob McClay here's our top story thanks..