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Ep. 217 - Lindsey Simcik on Her Ayahuasca Experience + The Importance of Ceremony

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Ep. 217 - Lindsey Simcik on Her Ayahuasca Experience + The Importance of Ceremony

"I realized that if we choose to be here and be now meet ourselves where we are meet others where we are to respect one another to respect nature by plugging into this grid and being of one that our existence will be so pure and clear, and peaceful. You're listening to the almost thirty podcast hosted by Christopher Williams and Lindsay Simsek almost thirty started as a conversation about the transition from our twenties to our thirties. But then we realized life is full of transitions. So be expanded our mission. We are an intuition led wellness focused lifestyle podcast that promises to deliver authentic conversations, diverse points of view and insights rooted in optimism growth and intention. The almost thirty nation community is group of purposeful dreamers who are smart passionate and always seeking the full potential in every aspect of their lives at almost thirty. We're making magic together we dream it. And then we do it. Thanks so much for tuning into the almost thirty podcast here. We go. Hello. This is my react from Coachella voice. I got on the phone today. Kilos like who is this? She loves you. Yeah. Literally thought it was me. She thought it was you Siva tunnel vision. I have tons of dust and my throat and my face dusty in the desert truly so too old for Chela guys. Let's pretty much the facts Christmas at Coachella weekend. And we have not caught up. We liked to catch up live cigarettes homies fresh. So it was really good. Because it was the first year. I went from L A, usually I would go from New York or the times I've been I've went from New York. And so you don't fly and get a rental car and all that shit so easy for us to just drive in and out. And we got a beautiful house. You got like chef we got like a bus like we just did it like real big. We're like all right. We're going to do it Super Bowl. Justin got VIP tickets to which was cool. We saw KENDALL Jenner Chilin come on which I don't know why just showing. Yeah. Let children VIP. I don't know. Why she she goes? I'm like, dude. I would love to have a healthy Stor to cover over. I don't know though, because she doesn't maybe that's true definitely pay. So I just found this out that I did know that the CEO of Coachella has donated money job. I had I called me. I just found this out is in its wild that people finish your sentence. Sorry. So he don't he's donated money to inti LGBTQ organ. Physicians and I think pro gun organizations. It was like in the to the tune of one hundred thirty four thousand dollars. They c o of Coachella had has done that. And the way that I found out was because at the end of Aaron Agron day she put on a flag and was like walking around with the flag. And I don't know if she said fuck you to the CEO, but it was kind of like a nod to saying fuck you all about that. Which was read yelled that girl. Put on a fuck and show. I didn't see it all I was like eight minutes for ninety minutes. I literally I was she did not miss a note from what people said I was like annoying because I was like that's a true artist voice. She was probably is insane. She brought out Nicki Manashe whose Nicki Menaj is. They're they're Mike stint. Dude, Coachella is actually fucking JV. Because I can't even tell you how many Mike issues how many delayed issues they had. Well, Billy Irish came on forty minutes late. Vince, she brought out Vince Staples. Makes me sad was at her someone else because I love her. I think it was hard. But also, I think she's like a satanist. I'll be honest, I call her young state nece because there's something weird about it. She has very dark imagery lays albums dark. It's how there's a lot of darkness with her. And the way that how quickly she got up to the top is kind of weird. So I just call young satanist. But I think she's in true talent. And she oh, she brought been Staples. Amazing. Couldn't hear where no one knew he was on. Because the Mike wasn't on Faulk when Nikki Manashe came on Ariana GRANDE day her Mike didn't work either did areas so areana said twice. She's like I can't hear I can't hear because they couldn't hear it playing back in their ears. So they didn't know who was saying what? So it was a total flop. No one knew what was going on between them. And then also she brought out Mason P, Diddy and killed it. But Mace I don't know if. His mic wasn't working either. Or he completely didn't know what was going on. But I think he did. No it was going on. So we started to go. Yeah. Because he couldn't go cause Mace hasn't been doing shit in a long time. So Mace was like a flop area like she was freaking the fuck out because he was messing up so bad. She didn't know to where to say like I'm coming out. You know, she didn't know where to like combine with her part. Right. So she was like kind of freaking out there, which was very here. Don't blame her and then juice world was like thirty minutes late to start. Khalid screens in the back weren't working like his his video screens weren't working do they rehearse hundred. And then there was another. There was a few more O K artists though. Like, I feel bad for the artists because we like fish Cutty, his his microphone wasn't loud enough. Like a lot of people. They had sounded issues where things weren't loud enough or they were too loud. Or so that was kind. This is what happens when you're when you're thirty one, and you go you're thinking about technicalities like the whole time because you're completely sober in your lay out, and I'm like, I'm like. Not loud enough on the right speaker in that screen hasn't started playing graphics. I'm like those lasers are cool. But then seeing like when people are seeing like mushrooms like crazy things and then also to like as at thirty one year old. It's like I'm doing math a lot. I'm like looking around him like alright so sanitation, it's probably costing them one hundred fifty thousand and then securities like one fifty and they probably paid Arianna one million. And they probably make you know, two million from ticket sales. You know, take you're doing all that shit. Like, you would never give a shit about. Oh and uterus. Like kind of being like mathematical about everything here. Like how many people are in here? And you think about other stuff do you think about like like dark shit? You're like, okay. So if there was a fire. How would we honestly you know, I was thinking about the whole weekend. Yeah. And you're like, okay. If someone in your thinking like someone died here. Also, there is also very cryptic things. It was very like at a my perspective and point of view is so different. Now just being made is like Donald Glover. Who's amazing true true artist? His set was really cool because he started it out and was like at the beginning said, you know, put your phones down like I don't want people to be on their phones. I want people to be present. If you guys want me to play the hits, I'm not gonna play them and just kind of wanted to make it a full experience. So it was like a bunch of songs that he was really passionate about and all the things. If at one part, he goes. He's a goes, you know, there's a hundred thousand people here tonight. And there's a good chance that one of you won't make it to next week. Oh. And you're like. Literally in everyone's like rolling in waste. Like, it's gotta be me. Or you're doing okay, it's gonna maybe a true statement. But also, you're like. Okay. And then there was another really weird part two. That this part was like, I was very weird. Dillon francis. Who I don't love his music, but he's like he's like scroll IX where they put on a bomb show likes, relax, usually incorporates. A lot of trip trap and hip hop. Dillon francis. Does more like party shit kind of like major lazer style. Right. You know? Things. And there was one part. And he's like it was it was a really good show. And he's like all right. You guys ready to go deeper? And everyone's like, yeah. He's funny too. He's funny. And then but on the screen, and then it goes, I own your soul and little he goes, it literally would kept saying I own your soul, she SCO for and over and over again on the screen, and then it was like now, your soul is mine. Literally, it's like, but shaking on the screen, and it's like, I own your soul, and we're like, oh my God. And that's another thing too were I'm so like, I'm not so conscious now. But like my lawyer now this one hundred percent, and I'm sitting there, and I'm like, well, this is the thing get him to agree. And they're saying, yes, whatever you say. And then they say that shit. Just kind of fuck it weird to be honest. I owners like are you do you guys? Want to go deeper? Yeah. And then everyone, and then he's like, I own your soul, and you're like, okay, so energetic, Helene. This is energetically. I'm sitting there, and I'm literally telling myself, I'm like, my free will says no I was told Justin I told my friends, and like say, no like, this is so dumb and crazy. I'm just like, no. I wonder what it feels like on drugs to hear that a hundred. Why maybes you don't know? That's the thing is like you're so out of it that you might not know that they're saying that, but I mean years ago when I would have went I would have definitely thought it was weird. But I wouldn't have thought it was weird. As weird is I do now, and you know, just little things like that. But anyways you. People were not playing around fashion wise. People were not playing around. My outfits were probably a four at a tent on on the cuteness scale like to is like, oh, I've read a magazine in like three as I've looked at it Instagram of a fashion blogger and for is like the best we can get people were showing out. It was crazy. I was sitting in the same outfit all weekend being like, oh my God. Like you'd get notifications. That people being like look number three is up on my Instagram. Double tap, leave a PM. Oh, gee, you're layover three eight by God, a legal, HUD. Bolts bull looks multiple. It was so crazy like the look this year was. Plugs out bought holes out. I know I saw so many atlas pants you guys. I saw so many booties and I saw so much boobs. It was really distracting to me. I was like oh my God. What's I've literally get so much tits and asked today respect body. Love do your thing looked amazing. But it was kind of a mind fuck in a way to be around so many I can't eat. I can't even describe to you. I live in L A one of the most beautiful places in the world. And this was on another level that I cannot even explain to anyone there would tens would walk by people wouldn't even look twice because it was like you'd see so many tens people just were literally it was like they'd been trying for years. They big put on like veneers for fucking Coachella like, and it was like so at a point. You're just kind of like this is like, you know, you're not compa-. I'm not comparing but you're just kind of like, wow. This is what's going on in the world. And it does make you feel some type of way, you know. Absolutely. Well, I I would feel it's almost like I can just picture. I would have like Benach yours being like over that. It would be about the people. It wouldn't even beat about the music, which is like kind of why I've never like not that. I don't wanna go to Coachella down when whatever. But I just have never sought it out because I'm like, but it's not really about the music, and I would get fucked up. You know, I didn't I wasn't drinking. You know? But that's why people get fucked up because then you're able to sort of be in your own world, and sort of her relax in sort of not think about or look around or pay attention to things that are going on. I think that's and that's the thing about it. Is it wasn't. You know, adjustment were laughing because it's like. Our schedule. We're like, okay. So we're going to go to murder beats and then push t and then blood orange, and then churches, and then we have the schedule. And then you know, the whole day were literally in the do lab for like three hours. I'm like, this is so the do lab the colorful thing. Yeah. It's like, no. That's just an art installation. Is where they play just like deejays play late trap us. Oh, just get lost in the mix to these shows. And we didn't really get to see a lot of the shows that we wanted 'cause we went so late because nowadays it's like it's hot during the day. How hot during the day? And once you're there, you're there you go back. So if you leave at three you're going to be out until like one it's just like a long day. So it's like you just go at the end of the day. And but I mean, it was good. And it was fun. But you're just end like now, I'm older too. And I'm watching people make oh, I hope like, they're okay. And I hope that they're in our loving relationship. You know, I see. People like fighting, and he's crying. And also don't know how old everyone is man. There was to know baby chickens, especially area Guerande. I mean, I saw the tiny little baby chickens by by that were just loving life, which was adorable and amazing to watch. But there's tons of tiny children, and there's tons of Chinese children like doing a lot of drugs. That's what was crazy too is like I would say give or take a three percent that a hundred percent of the people there were fucked up. It's it's just like a thing now. And it's other ambulances everywhere. Like, I mean, the probably as waiting, but you know, they're not like in public to freak people out. Yeah. True. But there's just a lot of you know, that happening when that would in most of where my brain would be would be worrying about them hundred percent. I mean, Justin, I relax like such grandparents. It's like one time we were lost. And we were like at the info center, really like he's had our map out. We're like can you point me to the direction of this? And they're like yes right over there. I'm like. Only. So you're not gonna go again. No. But do you want though? So fun. But now, it is it it was I just I don't know. If I I'm I know I'm different. But also, it's I definitely think it is different too. So the years that I've gone previously. They probably had this year they had one hundred thirty thousand in the past. And when I went they probably had eight thousand eight hundred ninety thousand and that's a big difference of people. So it was bigger there's tons of room in. It's just you just feel like it's not really about special when there's not many people like music festivals. Or that had been to mad decent block. Parties are always so fun dip lapook them on and there'd be. Three thousand ripe and like pitchfork in Chicago's one of my favorite music festivals. There's pro I don't know how many thousand but it's feels intimate feels like you're experiencing something special. There's not a lot of people you could walk around. You can be free. You can relax and it's fun. But could is such a show, and there's so much of like the influencers space. That's doing there now. So it's like gifting parties, and like sweets, and you know, that world that gets intermixed in it. So it's hard to really see where their people are that really really love music. Yes. And digest have a good time. Yeah, he was. So that's where you guys met three-fold love where he asked me to be as girlfriend, but as so cute new so cute. I remember. Yup. And we were like, yeah. It was really cute and really fun. And we just have the best time. So it was really fun to like laugh lot totally play around and and being your own little world. Yeah. Hundred which is actually a bad thing. Sometimes because I even now we dating so long, but we're it's kind of add we are really in our world. And it's kind of rude get what was the dynamic, isn't that kind of rude. But sometimes they just have to remind myself that I have other people that I'm with and I need to pay attention to them. But we just get sucked in it only. We're having so much fun. And you know, if you're with a group of people you're going to gravitate towards the person that's easiest with. Yeah. Not that. It's not completely easy with my friends, but it's like total. It's just your go-to. So it's your love LA. That. Yeah, he had fun. I mean, we didn't see a lot of the shows that he wanted. But it was it was cool. And I'm feeling a little a little sick. And under the weather. But I I mean, how could you not? I mean, it's not because you didn't do do you do anything? Yeah. He did a little. Yeah. Okay. That's fun. But it's mushroom that fun. Yeah. Was that? 'cause actually very chill was really nothing. Just felt really good felt really loose felt really Laffy. And to be honest. It really made such a difference. It didn't fuck me up. I was like nothing. I feel completely fine today. But it just helped us like a social lubricant again s you know, just knitted experience. Totally. I have some in my fridge. I was thinking about doing it by myself, you want to say, I probably could it's real easy. But I do want to do it because I was going to do it before Costa Rica just to open up my Porthos. So not a big deal. It's yeah. I'm feel like after it. We're good. We went to one hundred not endorsing anything. But I was texting one of our good friends who you guys probably know. But I won't say their name about the mushrooms before they were kind of just like telling me about it. So yeah, it was good. I mean glad to be back. I had a blast of my friends, they're happy, and you know, some of them have kids and some of them are getting engaged, and it was just like really fun to like be with them. And they're like my I love being like at festivals with them. We've done a lot of them together. And. They just know how to do it. You know, just be go with the flow, be relaxed. If you lose someone it doesn't matter. Reno is just kind of like, there's like a type of person and energy that can do it. And then there's not and they're just like so seasoned at it. So's really good to be with them. Good Palm Springs. Also is the shed up fast dying to go out. It's stunning right now. Like all the flowers are in bloom, the flowers are insane. They look so beautiful. I was like this is it's on the way out are like when you're all Palm Springs issues because it's been raining all those mountains in doubts. It's so green news soul youthful. I'm so grateful for all them. Rain. Jammies. You so beautiful. I'm trying to think Katy Perry came out with Zad Zad played do a little sod. I do too. I think he's weird. But yeah. He's beijing. And then I'm trying to think if you else we saw blood oranges, really good. They're really late groovy. Yeah. Donald Glover was good. Tame Impala was amazing. Yeah. It was just who's got. Yeah. So how's your week? It was great. Actually, I have my own musical experiences. No. And I actually I really want you to come and I invited almost thirty nation. LA no-one could come to this one. But we're gonna make it happen. I'm going to go. I don't know if this episode. Yeah. This'll be out probably after but at dance line LA in Culver city. They have this west African oh fundamentals dance class. So it's a hard as yes. And Aaron Alexander, so Sahara, wasn't there. But I went with Erin. And it was the most fun. I've had in a very long time. Like it was so liberating it's educational. It's beautiful. The the guy that teaches it Dante. He is I am king Tayo on Instagram all find it. But it was so inclusive like anyone can show up all levels all races. Like, it was just so beautiful. And I just thought like, oh, we're just going to put on some like a CD or something or like an ipod, ipad, whatever in wa. Walk for drummers with their drums a woman to guy three guys. And then the guy's two year old son so sons a part of the whole celebration, and it's like Sunday service. And they're so it was it was probably like an hour and a half because he went over time. But it you you're barefoot the drums are playing from the beginning. So the warm up is to the drums, and you you have no choice, but to let go you have no choice, and I grew up dancing, but like ballet tap jazz. And you had to be like pulled in tucked in this. The like you're too short. You're too tall. You see whatever. And I mean, the women and men that do this every week in our like just so season and their bodies, and you just felt it and it was contagious. Like, you could not do it. So it was just like I can't even describe it. That's why I want everyone to come with me and do it. So I was like vibrating very very very high. Ooh. It was like, and it was emotional. It was very emotional. Just like watching one these these people don't get paid that much the teacher products and get paid the much the drummer saga. They take donations which is great. So if you do come bring a few bucks like to tip, the drummer's twenty-five, honestly, and but I just got emotional because his biggest emphasis was just on like community and taking care of each other. He's like if you see someone over there, and they don't have it you grab their hand. And you pull them in like, you take care of everyone like, and he was describing what certain parts of the dance meant. So the beginning was very like it was for the elders the elders like kinda start the ceremony in in in like theory. So the village like, okay. Yeah. Are like spirits. No like air. They weren't there in the room. But he was describing like this is the type of dance like the elders would come out first. And so it's slow, and they're really milk in it like they've earned it. And they're kind of like calling in this. Spirits, and and then all of a sudden like the rhythm would change. And he was describing kind of how like, you know, it is the Pershing in the letting go and they would do this on Sundays because they wanted to kind of be ready for the week. And we say that all the time like have we gotta be ready for Monday. This was like the perfect thing to do. And. Yeah, I don't know. I just it was way outside of my comfort zone in the. I mean, I like to dance, but. I did have a moment where I was like, I'm like, the only white blonde girl in this room. And I felt a little like I should be here. Like, I kinda I don't I don't know what I felt. I was just like I always feel do what what are people thinking about me being here? I don't know. It was just a moment. And then it was gone. Like the moment. We started dancing. We were literally all one in. It was so fun. And then the little kid one. He's a prodigy. Alright already. I was thinking of ios like, oh, my God Krista would be crying watching him. And none of them were playing. We were kind of going over a piece of the dance. And then you hear this like little beat. And you're like, what's where's this little be coming from? And there was a little kid just playing and he's an it's on. Beep was like the craziest thing, but it was such as all abrasions so sweaty so vibrant and highly recommend so west African dance fundamentals with Dante ten fifteen AM at dance line, L A and Culver city. Every sunday. I'm going to go at the end of April. Try to be as consistent as possible. I highly recommend it was like it felt like therapy that feeling after therapy. You like. I feel good. Yeah. It was like that. It was. So that is so Veon all son as you need to be taken out of your element. Like, yes. No, thanks to Erin Alexander. Who host the align podcasts? He does. That's he does that stuff all the time by himself, and he was going to invite Aubrey Marcus Aubrey couldn't come. Oh, man. To Jackie Texas, the night before he's like I'm trying to convince because he and Aubrey where like hanging out the night before he's like, I'm trying to convince Aubrey to calm those like, oh, cool. I was like playing a call. I was like cool. Yeah. We're trying to because he he wanted until he's like do you want to interview Aubrey this weekend? I was like, man. It's like we're not together. But yeah, it was it was great. And then on Saturday. It was a lot of like I was like with a lot of people. But then not like, it was very balanced, and I wrote I wrote a song when they friend Sam no way, so fun. You get to see it. Yeah. We sang it, but we hadn't finished a song ever. So like she and I have worked together a little bit. She's a really talented musician Samantha era Leo, and she's just such a teacher, she teaches music to kids, but she's such a teacher to me in in in the song writing process because she'll keep me on track and help to structure this song. And and it's it was beautiful. I just like had so much fun. And we did. We've conditioning. What's it about? I I actually eventually want like I definitely want to share it with. Yeah. And then I saw wild horses. I don't know if anyone knows about this in LA, but you should but it's spiraled me for because I I wanted to see some like women live in Canada because we're obviously on tour, and we're doing our live shows so wild horses is an improv group, but they have a show podcast a podcast. But it's basically it's like a talk in the beginning kind of like you, and I do, but it's four women and they're drinking wine. They're they're hanging out. And it's very funny. And then they invite on guest, which this week was Angela, Tim or timber actress. And and then they do the four women do an improv performance based on that conversation. So they kinda pull various points at the funny conversation. It's genius LA. It's an L A this time. And I I kind of want us to do show there. It's called the Dinah typewriter theater at the Hayworth pool. It's an increase. New theatre. It's been open a month and a half. And it was just perfect rarely so yet, but it was like really cool to kind of see them see that I've seen them perform before. But like man, it's so simple, man. It's so simple. And so entertaining like you don't need to try to heart. Yeah. You know what? I mean. Yeah. So it was just a good reminder, and I got some inspiration. Just for like what we're doing? Like, he really don't have to care about some things that we think we need to care about. I was just so great percent is literally an hour and fifteen minutes sold out guys girls. People just they're like present their present funny done. How nourishing it was great nourishing weekend. It was I had a date on Sunday night away. It's great who. Melvin. Yeah. The other one. Okay. Yeah. It was great. God. The other one. You're probably thinking that one that one was actually at Coachella. Oh, real presidency him. I was thinking the I was thinking the other one actually I know you're talking about the other one said actually because it's a plan. But it was a planned date. Yeah. Exactly. Well, but I do we just talked to we just had an interview earlier. And she said something about the being really present with someone and not thinking too far ahead is like my ultimate biggest lesson in dating. Yeah. Lots of girls. So I know a lot of you out there will will relate. But it is a practice. Every single moment of a date for me. It's like, it's funny. When I because I constantly just catch myself. Like, hey, bring it back here. Hey, you're here. Not ten years from now say just because he's got the father of your kids you lip on literally. I know, but we take little things he only got himself silverware that means he's going to be a selfish prick of his life. He's not gonna be satisfied me in bed. It's wild where my mind goes. But I it was it was great. And I like these little Sunday date. So so I love I love that the Sunday date, so nice. It's like to Sunday nights number one best night at the week. 'cause I'm you because I cut it off. I don't want to do a late night. So it's done by eight. Yep. But you start early start at like three you kind of lake get a bite to eat you take a walk. We watched the skaters we watched the roller skaters. So it was like a lot of people watching which is so fun. It was just like, okay. Yeah. It was great. But because I had done all that other stuff for myself. I felt like okay can do this. Because if I was just like while in meaning like if I was. Giving a lot of energy to people throughout the weekend. I probably wouldn't have been as jazzed for that date. Yeah. But because I was kind of like feeling that, you know. Yeah. Tell you what's next. I don't. I don't want to proclaim. Yeah. Trying to be pressed we'll talk off air. Yeah. Yeah. As possible. So you have very different weekends. But equally is nourishing and fun. That's amazing. I also saw lasting that. There's a picture of the black hole taken. So there's no I missed that. Oh, there's the first photo taken of a black hole. Like a woman that actually was able to do it through like an algorithm or something was able to find a way to take picture of a black hole. And I'm just confused are the more than one. Yeah. There's lot. So meaning like black hole, I can space. So we're what she just on earth. We're able to take a picture. So like ours is not on earth, but like through satellite. Oh through able to like find win and taping shirkers a lot of times. There's like such a strong gravitational pull through in through them because it's like a portal. So but it's weird because the photo it's like a black hole. Yeah. I'm like, what did y'all think? I like breaking news black holes are plaque on. Why did you guys? Try so hard for this one not too fickle bitch. But what's the what's the effort for this black hole photo? It's just looks like what is your news feed filter like only like spacewalk aliens. It's a yeah. It's like what's gonna what's gonna freak you out. It's honesty space aliens. Oh, man. So very interesting. Okay, speak. Yeah. Today's episode is actually me I'm talking about our Iowa experience. Yeah. We're excited to share. We both have episodes about our individual experiences out coming out. And now we're really grateful for the opportunity to ah Kantara Mia. And actually just got a message from a stranger, but she had just gotten back from rigged Mia. Really? And I just did to on face. Yeah. I love I love hearing about people's experiences. 'cause when they're all different. And I really think that is a part of and I talked about this in the episode like just a part of my healing is lake Jen passive off talks about this like bearing witness to other people's healing. And and being a listening ear for their stories like that is part of my experience there. So while ours. Weren't like these like crazy leave your body. Go to outer space experiences. It's still was I think just as profound because because we're I think pretty in tune like we're able to kind of pick up on subtleties and have them land as like more weight than may be, you know, people who experience something so like going to space and like going on the moon needed that they did that intention. No. Yeah. I'm looking forward to hearing this then we have mine coming out as well. So I wasn't going to do a full episode. But once I started talking to starting. Yep. Yep. In so mindful, Iowa experience episode is coming soon, and this is just part of the episodes related to our experience at red Mia, doing Iowa ska journeys in Costa Rica, red Mia sommes ING, you can go to our website on the show notes to find more information about rid Mia. It is definitely are suggested and recommended place. 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I was trying to act cool because I know Christmas done, you know, a lot of drugs in her past which I think is cool because you can talk to your kids one day about that. And tell them not to do it or do it and be safe. But yeah, I I was really really. Scared, and I was also really nervous as to what people would think these feelings lasted only a couple of weeks before I started to get so fucking excited about it. You know, I I was I was scared about what people were going to think of me judging me that I had really got off the deep end. Done Iowa's ska and wanted these crazy places, and I am to a lot of people. Whether it's in my family or friends who are not in LA. I am that you know, we would girl that lives in L A. And like what is she doing? So yeah, I was I was pretty nervous. And so I didn't really tell my parents at first. Hey, mom, if you're listening. I was nervous about that. I assume that they didn't know what it was. So safe there, but they do know how to use Google. So I was actually really nervous that they were going to Google this and see all of the negative things that people write about Iowa on the internet and just assume that I was getting myself into a lot of trouble. You know, what I what I've done or what I did was do a lot of research. Kristen I were super committed to doing a lot of research before saying yes to this experience. And you know, I'm I'm so glad we did. Because I think the research does quell any fears or anxiety around it and talking to a lot of people that we know very spiritually rich monetarily rich. You know, really accomplish dynamic people that we've met we've interviewed we are lucky enough to call friends, and they. I have done. I waspa- some of them and their experiences just peaked our interest to say, the very least some have done it more than one time some of done it many times a couple hundred times, and I just I just stood in all of their experiences and wondered whether it it was going to hold the same depth and realizations for me too. So there was a point in it felt like just a switch that I was just excited and not scared anymore. And I was you know, finding energy just throwing myself into something that I had never experienced that. No one would expect me to do. And although I wasn't doing it for other people. I I did feel responsibility for all of you in this experience to take it seriously to share my experience before and after and really give you, you know, the facts. And an and what I went through and saw people go through. So that you if this is something that is calling you can use it. As just a part of what you will use to decide if it's, you know, something that you should do. But Iowa SCA itself has been used for thousands of years. Everybody housands of years. This is not just like a new age thing. And it is you know, just such a beautiful ceremony. It's led by shamans, and I'll get into this in a moment and get into specifics of my experience. But it is I get self is the vine, and it's a sacred vine, and they brew it with other ingredients with DM T. And you know, traditionally it's Houston ceremonies ceremony is among the indigenous peoples of the Amazon basin. But you know, we we specifically we. We had bruise from Peru from Columbia from different places in South America. I felt so lucky to be receiving, you know, this sacred brew that has so much history. And you know, I just feel like this has opened up a deep spiritual side of me that I knew existed, but just didn't know or understand how to tap into it. And so I did. Okay. Should we get into it? Everybody. I feel like I was rambling. Here we go. So we we we got to read me up late late in the night. And you know, it while the accommodations are amazing and the the support from their their team. Members is incredible. They pick you up at the airport. They take you to read the me they sign you in at super seamless. You get your physical. They give you your schedule which is just so organized and supportive while all of that is incredible including the food. It's all vegan and amazing and made literally with like so much love. It's not a vacation y'all like it has all the amenities of a vacation. And there are moments when you are super super relaxed between ceremonies, but I do have to say about, you know, Iowa's ska and experiencing this four nights in our case. It's a lot of work. It is a lot of work and you're exhausted. Some some days, you're energized. Some days you feel like you just want to be alone. Somedays you want to talk about everything that happened to you the night before. So I just really told myself that I was going to ride the wave of this thing, and Kristen I had pretty pretty different experiences, which was really interesting. Getting to she see because you know, I thought I don't I don't know what I thought actually I don't know if I thought we were gonna have the same one. But it was really interesting to hear her experience next to my experience and kind of go deeper every night after ceremony, but. Yeah. So we we get there and the first day. The first day, we get we get the whole intro, this formal intro from Jerry Powell himself, who I'm going to be honest. And I I told this Jerry's face like, I I wasn't sure what to think about you know, before I met him. I was like, okay. So this guy started rid Mia alike. All right. This is interesting used to be a multi multi, multimillionaire, like had twenty six cars six mansions like was a drug addict and alcohol. Ick. Cheater Aligarh, just like kind of the biggest asshole on the planet, and he told his story, and he's so engaging and charismatic and. And and I ask really saved his life. And and you guys will listen or have listened to his episode. Please check that out. It's really really powerful has story. And, you know, his his opening talk was was the talk the energy the confidence I needed to know that I was in the right place. And you see it was palpable in the room. Like, you could feel the people in the room. I mean, it was such a mix. We were honestly the youngest ones the air like one of the oldest ones there people were in their fifties. Sixties seventies. I'm like, I should have invited. My parents. I still want to invite my parents, even though they would never go, but hey girl can dream. But. Yeah. The the energy was was so dynamic, you know, some people were suffering from addiction and depression summit just lost a loved one and were more morning and and summit lost them years ago. And and we're trying to get their life back somewhere battling various diseases and illnesses ailments, our friend Jim has been losing his eyesight since he was five. Jim, I love you. I hope you're listening one of the most powerful people I've ever met in my life. And so you could really feel the deep longing to heal from the room and to witness Jerry's transformation to really feel how much he has transformed from from this asshole drug addict, sad suicidal man to this just ball of light who who loves. His life and truly truly on a deep deep level loves to help people and to change people's lives by giving them this place, which is the only licensed place that you can do I walk in the world and to support people through this is his life's purpose and the moon told him that. So check out that episode again, I'll plug that. Because I'm not going to explain it here. I won't do it Justice. All right. So night one night one. I was if I could have I would have shit my pants, but I didn't because we had done gravity kalanick's earlier that day. Let me just tell you about a gravity colonic. Everybody a gravity kolanik. You put you yourself. Put a little tube up your, but you are sitting no pants on obviously on this like kind of silicone basin. And there's this whole near your butthole a larger hole where the poop is going to go and anything else that comes out of you. And the rule is she just said when you feel the pressure push. I was like, okay. I don't want. That means like, I'm sure I'll be fine. And oh Lord. Do you feel the pressure? Do you feel the pressure? And so you just push and it just slowly every, you know, twenty seconds or so there is the next flush and the next flash. And slowly. But surely, you know, you are cleaned out. It honestly is probably one of the best feelings in the world the whole. The whole ritual of it. Or how you do it is like not bit cleanest and cutest 'cause afterwards you gotta figure out how to take the tube out of your butt and then like clean yourself off. And also dry yourself off without getting like poop on your on anything. So it's it's interesting, and I was pretty proud of myself for doing them. So for ceremony we are dressed in all white, and I really go I go all white. They said to wear all white and bring all white and. I was not playing around. I I probably actually spent too much money buying all-white shit. I was going around town when white was not in season. But yeah, Kristen I made our way to the Maloka which is in the center of rid mea the resort, and it is this beautiful beautiful beautiful open open. I don't know what you would call it kind of like this. It looks like a huge yoga room. But with vaulted ceilings, you know, like windows on on every wall, you kind of feel like you're outside. And that's for ceremony was an end before we went in. They were you know, blessing the space and really setting the intention all the shamans were in their smoke was everywhere. Feathers were flying like it was wild. And getting me so nervous. So I was like oh my God. What if I got myself into like, what is about to happen? What is about to come up for me? What is my body about to do what am I going to witness like it was just it was really overwhelming? This may we are partnering with one of our favorite companies skinny dip almonds on a campaign to spread awareness about the importance of self love and self care. This is called mindful may, and we are so grateful that skinny dipped is going to donate one dollar for every comment on their I g post on their page. So go to get skinny dipped on Instagram and find the post that talks about the mindful may campaign and for every one of your comments. They will donate one dollars to a charity in the mental health space. Yeah. 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Let's give our listeners fifteen percent off when you order for the girls on Amazon. So you just use the code almost thirty at checkout, so Amazon dot com. Search for the girls, and you will get fifteen percent off when you use the code almost thirty at checkout. So they got us into a circle, and they asked us to grab an instrument. There is like, you know, hundred instruments off to the side and all seventy of us, which is how many were in our group, which is pretty wild. We we wrapped an instrument and sat in a circle. And and basically we created like a drum circle. And so we started playing these instruments and at one point one of the shamans began to sing and dance in bless the circle. And I. I just started crying. You know? Like, I forgot that how important ceremony is, you know, like, we're going so fast. Like who is so fast every day? And I'm speaking, I I'm speaking knowing that a lot of you out. There will relate like we are just going at such a hyper speed to get things done. And to get ahead that lake we forget how important ceremony is to our everyday. And so this moment where I was with seventy other people all from so many different walks of life. So many different ages races. Genders like it was so beautiful to be there together to be going through this together. Something that I was really scared to do that. We were all I would assume really scared to do and right then and there I just felt surrender. You know, like within that community within that moment within the music calorie of the moment. I just was like, okay. Like, I'm safe to just let go. To experience this to meet myself where I am just like experience it so shortly after we go into the Maloka, and we choose our beds. I mean you walk in. And there's literally seventy beds with seventy buckets, seventy blankets and pillows like with little toilet papers on a roll of toilet paper on the beds. I'm like, what did I get myself into it looks it looks? It's very comfortable. I have to say the buzzer super, comfortable blankets are cozy everything is clean. And and all of that. So, you know, don't let the bucket. I didn't let the bucket scare me away. But I was also scared. So you get on your bed, and and soon you have people next to you. Kristen I did not sit next to each other. We are two connected for that. That would have been wild and crazy. And so, yeah, we we started just talking I was talking to the people around me and on the first night. I I was next to an older gentleman. His name was deter Peter with a D And he was from a Sweden. I believe and he was just the sweetest, man. The sweetest man I've ever met and just have you know, this piece about him. So I was like, oh, what does he want to do? I was good for you know, and his intention for that night. He told me was to feel soft in his body. I was like oh my gosh. A sixty something year old man as telling me he wants to feel soft and his body like. So I sat with that. Because. I just I realized in that moment. Like, so many of these people who are in their fifties. Sixties seventies. Have lived a lifetime repressing, their feelings repressing their thoughts dealing with trauma, you know, and not processing that manifesting that in their bodies and the way that they live. And so I just I I realized in that moment like the the the gravity of this experience for those people, and I realized that. Not fully. But I did have a hint that I was going to experience healing through their healing through witnessing their healing, which I did. And I will explain so he was just sweet and put me at ease loved having him as a little bed mate. So here we go. So so the the the ceremony begins after after the shaman says have saddest down we are in a group. We answer any questions that we might have any concerns how the ceremony is going to go. What type of brew? We're about to to take and to experience some rules. You know, touching anybody know like just know interacting really with anyone and everyone followed the damn rules. When you're on the medicine you follow the rules. It's crazy. So after that little Powell we sit and and they call us up for rapid which is. Which is a powder tobacco. And they shoot it up your nose. They literally shoot it up your nose. It feels like. It feels like the first time I took a head of a cigarette, and I got really lightheaded and wanted to vomit. So there's that. And so I was completely overwhelmed. My sinuses were burning. I was like, oh, hell no, hell, no. I like I wanted to faint. So I I sat down on my bed stood sit sat up tall and just meditated and got quiet. And then they performed the blessing on the broo- so blessing on on Iowa, the Iowa ska the plant medicine, and it was just so beautiful, man. These shamans like I have to say, and we saw it every night. No matter what shaman shamans were leading the ceremony lake. The dedication the love the intention. They have for every ceremony. This work is just so intense. And it was overwhelming got us. Got me emotional many of the nights, and they don't get paid a lot. You know, this isn't this isn't like a job you go into or a practice you go into a. To to make money and. I was just in complete all so. Yeah. Again, had never done it any psychedelic. So they call us up for the first drink, and again, I'm scared and the poor the Iowa's go, which is like this dark syrupy liquid into a shock class. So I know a shock loss, and I know I can shoot shit back and. And it doesn't taste good tastes like dirt. It's a little bit thick for my liking. But I did it and I kept it down. So after you take be glass after they bless it. And after you whisper your intention into the glass, I shot it back, and I sat down on my bed stood up sat up tall. So that you know, the medicine stayed in my belly. Because if I laid back, I was worried that I was gonna wanna get sick. And and you know, then the medicine would not work. So I was like spitting a little bit into the bucket, and then I calmed down. And I just thought there for like thirty thirty five minutes, you know, complete silence really really really still, and then once everyone had gotten their drink that was about, you know, about time, and I I lay back down, and I just got really cozy and covered myself with the blanket, and I fell asleep. And that's that that was my experience. No, I fell asleep for a little bit. And I didn't know what what what to expect. I didn't know what to look for like I had never tripped before. So I'm like no fucking clue. What's supposed to be happening? So I opened my eyes. I woke up at one point. And and I started to lake I was like looking at my hands. And if you watch the video on YouTube like you could see what what's doing? It's I kind of felt like Bob Fosse knows like looking at my hands, and like making these like cool movements, and I was realizing I'm like, oh like my hands looked so different. It looked like I had like these like, latex gloves on my hands kind of a latex covering so you couldn't see any wrinkles or lines on my hands. Never just so smooth. And my first thought was like, oh my God. Like, I didn't realize like my hands were this young looking. And then like, I looked pass my hands on I saw on the ceiling like this grid like a neon grid was like, oh, this is crazy like rid Mia really goes for it at night and makes this place feeling look like a club. Like, I honestly didn't realize that this was part of the trip until the shamans started singing, so. At some point in all this era. Money's the shaman saying, and it's the most beautiful beautiful music. You've ever heard in your life. It is so intensely beautiful. It made me cry every time, and this music is is speaking to the medicine in your body, and you would hear it, you know, they would they would have a certain vocal inflection and notes and all of a sudden the room would erupt in laughter or the room would abrupt and cries and screams or vomiting. You know, like it was so intense. They were orchestrating and really moving the energy. They knew what they were doing. So during one of the songs, you know, I I did see this grid. And I just had this lake what came up for me during all this era. Moonies was this intense. Knowing you know, I I would have a vision I would have thought and I wouldn't out myself. And if any of you know, me or you've heard kind of. You know, what I what I am working through personally. Currently so much of it is self doubt so much of it is worthy nece. And so in those moments. I was like, oh, this is truth. I know this, you know, like, I could talk to anyone about this. And speak confidently in stand in my truth. Like, this is truth. And when I saw the neon grid on the ceiling. I realized that we are a part of a sacred grid and everywhere, I am this grid exists everywhere. You are this grid exists. And we have the choice to plug into it be have the choice to ground ourselves in the connection in the moment. And. I just I realized that. If we choose to be here and be now meet ourselves where we are meet others where we are to respect one another to respect nature by plugging into this grid and being of one that our existence will be so pure and clear, and peaceful. It will flow. And I think subconsciously, you know, I, and maybe some of you feel this like I just I have somewhat of a resistance sometimes to plugging into the moment plugging into the place where I am with the people. I'm I'm with or with the emotions that I'm feeling, you know, but we all have the choice anywhere we are to plug into the sacred grid and to create a sacred space. So I thought about this, you know, as it relates to the podcast and being in the studio, and creating a sacred space for us for our guests. No matter when where or where we are plugging into the grid being here standing in our truth, and and wanting to know more from a place of of love of heart centeredness, so. Yeah, that that was like my first knowing and I was like, whoa. We're that come from. You know, like it was so profound like it was so profound to me that I was I was excited. I was like, wow. This this was so subtle in. What I saw yet the download or the the knowing was so strong and deep and clear to me. So I kept on surrendering. And and soon after that, I'm going to go through just so you guys know I'm going to go through each night, kind of the main main takeaways Romy, I won't bore you with every God damn moment. But just some really profound takeaways for me that I am called to share. Because I think we can all, you know, learn something here, you know, this. I was experience was not fully a selfish one. You know? I said yes, also thinking about all of you, and that's not to like to my own horn. It's like I was thinking on the community of almost her DNA was like, okay. Like, I really do want to immerse myself in this and experienced this be brave enough to do this for myself one. And then for you know, all of you to give you permission to explore things that might scare you or might interest. You pull you like it doesn't have to be I wa- Scott. But hey in this case it was plant medicine so night one. Also, brought me some really deep understandings of things that have happened to me when I was a little bit younger. So my mom had breast cancer. When I was a junior in high school and sway. Wasn't that young? But I've still, you know, sixteen seventeen and I am the oldest of four kids. And during that time, you know, I really had to be strong for my. Siblings. I had to be strong for my mom strong for my dad, and I honestly don't remember crying during that time. I don't remember being being emotional about the fact that my mom was diagnosed with cancer that she was going through chemotherapy and radiation had a mastectomy, and and and truly like we could have lost her. You know, like, I I never I never cried for that. And and and so I had this flash of of this memory of my siblings. And I we were in our kitchen, and we were shaving my mom's head, so it was like a head shaving party when she started to lose her hair from chemo. And you know, was a really joy full seen. Right. Look, if you picture a scene in a movie, it was like a really joyful scene. But I saw that scene. And I just had this like this huge surge of emotion, and I started to cry and I just kept in this is in ceremony. And I just kept saying I'm so sorry, mum. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, mom. I just felt her pain. I felt even though she had the love and support of her kids of my dad of our extended family of her friends like she had such a a loving big community around her. I just felt how much pain she was in an how lonely she was during this time, you know, because no one else besides a couple of her friends who had had breast cancer. Like, no one else was going through this. And and I just felt this deep deep sense of. Of. Oh my God. Like, she was so so so lonely, and I just kept saying I'm so sorry. You know, like, I was just busying myself being strong for my siblings. So that they didn't get upset for my dad, and and she was too, you know, like, I was almost crying for her because she felt like she had to be super strong. She was like mowing the lawn with her cute little bolt head, and and you know, really powering through, and I just I felt the healing of that time. I felt you know, I felt the the pain and the remorse and. And just like where I could have. I mean, I don't wanna like should all over myself. But like where I could have just like. You know, understood better that she was so lonely and there's no air cut of at that age. I know that but it was. It was that. It was just like it was so intense. But after I cried like I felt so much better. And on the other side of that cry was my was my grandfather. Actually, I just I knew that he was there and keep he passed about nine years ago. But he was my mom's like biggest fan and best friend that was her dad, and I just knew, you know, he I guess he told me, but I just it came in as knowing that he had done a lot of her healings over the years. You know, he had played a major role in in healing her and of taking care of her and keeping her, you know, as healthy as possible. So. Yeah. And and and then I was pulled. I was pulled outside of his such a gorgeous night. You could see the stars from. Oh my God. It was the moment I stepped outside. I it quite literally took my breath away. And I just knew us I call my God. I am so taking care of. And I think I said that out loud. I was like walking on the grass feeling I was like barefoot feeling the grass underneath my feet, and I got down on the grass, and I started to like roll around like a kid, and I was like oh my God. Who's like I am. So taking care of. I've always been taking care of like, why would I ever Dow where my life is going like, I am so okay. Like, there's something so much bigger here. Like just seeing you know, the cosmos and being a part of the cosmos in that moment stepping outside and it's just so gigantic yet so small and it was just so beautiful. And I I looked up and I saw the stars moving. Like, it was the craziest thing of my life. Like, I actually saw things moving. I saw like rocket chips, and shed. I'd I was not visited by Elliot's. Unfortunately. But yeah, I found myself in a hammock out there, and I was just swinging back and forth looking up at the stars. And there was this beautiful tree above me, and the branches had these like long flow, e flowers and vines on it and. Again through a knowing. The tree was talking to me. And it was so beautiful. It was like very quiet. But they're like if you they're like, if you're quiet enough you'll hear what we have to say. I was like, okay. You know, I'm less paying and so they started to dictate to me songs. So I was I was listening and then singing, you know, I was I was singing songs that I had there not songs that you would know they're not even out there yet. They were literally coming from the trees, and they were these beautiful. I hope they are beautiful because I was saying them how loud don't know who heard me, but they were these beautiful songs. And and I just knew you know, my connection to nature is a connection that feeds my creative spirit. You know, like, I just knew that. I was like, okay. Yep. Blake this is where I find inspiration for new things for for healing things for for music for ideas for creative that is going to resonate with people in touch people. And it was just a really beautiful moment with the trees. And I realized that they just had so much wisdom. You know? Like, I felt like I felt like they were a friend that I could talk to them and talk to them about anything asked them anything. And it was like. You know, again, it's that feeling of like, oh my God. Like, I am not alone. Like everything's okay. You know, I don't have to seek advice from way, therapists, necessarily like I can go and talk to a tree. And I know it sounds curb Razi and a little bit. Woo woo and far fetched. But I am telling you that lake. Nature is seen it all. And you got to tap in. You have to tap in. Again, you know nature is the ultimate sacred grid that you can plug into. So quite literally hugging a tree, you know, laying in the grass taking a hike like just plugging in and being a part of that. Because I think, you know, the more that we've become a part of that the closer we get and therefore the less likely we are to forget that we are so connected to it, and the less likely we are to harm it, you know, to to pollute to waste to to just destroy nature. You know, so, you know, my prayer in that moment was like, oh my God. Like, everyone needs to be out nature. Like, if everyone understood just the love that. Mother earth has for us. They would not destroy it. They would not be so careless. So yeah, I mean. Mama, Iowa ska mother earth like there's just so much feminine energy. That was healing me. It felt so good. And that brings me to the other feeling that was so comforting I made my way back to my bed. Eventually they want us to stay in the Maloka to keep the energy within that room. So that the shamans Ken, Ken, you know, control it once you get outside the room, they can't necessarily control it, and they just want you to stay safe, and they'll do healings on people that are really going through that are Pershing better having a hard time. And so it want to be there for you. But I came back to to my bed, and I just. I started like touching my body and not in a weird sexual way not weird because hey, touch your body. But it was like I was just comforting myself like I was fully comfortable touching my body. And and and being like, a mother to myself, and that was that was annoying that came through that lake mothering myself is really really important. It's really really important. And you know, I have I think the best mother on the planet angel from heaven. And I also have a mother who is human being, you know. And so I think we all no matter how wonderful our mothers are deserve and need to mother ourselves. Because you know, there were probably times when I are mothers like. You know, just to know what to do or, you know, there were kind of gaps in the learnings as a mom and how beautiful that is. But I I really I felt this intense need to mother myself in that way and take care of myself and nurture myself and nourish myself, and so I was just kind of like touching my body. My thought is I was like touching my shoulders and my arms and just like loving on every body part. Because I I I would spend so much time like tearing myself apart like, my thighs touch of this that whatever and Oof in this moment, and I've carried it with me since and it feels really good, and I hope I hope pick him name. And it's just this intense love for my body and appreciation, and and promise that I will always take care of you. I will always take care of you. I will always listen to you. You which was just such a beautiful thing to take away. Like when I was like touching my body. I started to like play with my hair, and I was playing with my hair. Like when I was a kid. You know, I'd like kind of twist it, and I'd braid it, and I'd kind of play with it in a weird way. I just felt like my like, my younger self like if I was like six or seven, you know, what I mean like it was just it was so fun. It was so fucking fun. Like me playing with my hair twist, my hair, and it was so simple and so fun. And I had this thought of why the heck don't I play with my hair like this anymore? What the heck you're so busy in so adult and serious that you can't play with your hair like that anymore. Like pictures off is like a six year old and you'd like literally like pick your nose, but the boogie in your hair, and you're like twisting, and like making sure it wraps around. You know what I mean? Like just losing yourself. In these playful moments these simple playful moments. I was like, whoa. I need this. I need this more, and I need to do this more. And so yeah night one was was really enjoyable. My Pershing came in the form of yawning crying sighing singing and yawning if I didn't say that already and laughing so yeah, I didn't I didn't purge night didn't shit. So. There's that night to and by the way, you know. Throughout after ceremony before ceremony during the day. There are workshops there are sessions there are practices, you know, just full on three sixty support for you. So that you are understanding what is going on. So that you can integrate. What has happened the night before I cannot say enough about the shamans about the teachers about Jerry. I. I was in awe, you know. Because it is a really intense experience and for someone to not be supported throughout these four nights would be fucking insane. And they do it. So so well, and it helped to process, you know. So I can't say enough about that. All right on tonight too. Night to I started to feel things much sooner. So I went up for my my first drink and by the way on night one. I had two drinks. Yeah. I had two drinks night to I also had to drink. So they call you up for a second drink, and if you can hear it, not necessarily if you want it, but if you can hear it, you should go up for it think or drink don't think is is the policy, and you know, shortly after I took them at the medicine. I I started to see frac Dole's on things so really like neon shapes on on the trees outside on, you know, the tables around the medicine, and and again had never seen this before. And I was like, oh, cool. Like, you know, this looks like Coachella at night. You know, this is pretty cool. And I realized I was seeing things so it was beautiful. It was truly beautiful and my first. Division this night. Came came after a bit of time listening to the chorus of of a pain in healing around me. And it was really intense. I wasn't feeling anything for quite a bit. I saw things I saw the factories, and I saw that in the but besides that I was just kind of like, okay. Like, nothing's happening here. Nothing's coming up. And so it was really hard not to leave the room. There was a lot of crying. There was a lot of vomiting. There is a lot of screaming and moaning, and so you just kinda wanna leave. And I realized I was like, okay. Like, we were told, you know, and it's true that like, you know, when you hear those things and see those things and experience those things what is coming up is leaving. So, you know, if I were to think about my bed mate next to me, and he's Pershing and just going through it to call myself and to send him some love. I was just. Oh, what's coming up for him is leaving like he is healing. My favorite pieces in my apartment right now are all of my things from article so article has gorgeous mid century modern pieces that are actually really affordable. 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So the original citrus is a favorite of mine be hush flush, which is actually memos that rose and citrus, and then there's a Honey poo, which is wild Lotus. Honey and citrus. It's unreal. So poop ary dot com. He's our code almost thirty four fifteen percent off your first order. So that's poop ary dot com. Code almost thirty four fifteen percent off your first order. You know, I said I calmed myself. But I also got to thinking of is like, oh, wow. Like where else am I in tolerant of other people's healing? You know, like where else am I in tolerant of other people's healing in that test showed up relationships before where you know, I found it to be uncomfortable. When someone I was dating, you know, had to do a lot of work, you know, and that was just something interesting for me to to look at one of my first visions on night, two was I saw myself at home doing my daily rituals morning and night. And I was just being myself, and I was indulging and things I indulge in. So whether it's like, you know, watching some net flicks and eating my dinner on the floor, stretching or dancing. You know, in my underwear, whatever it is. And I just I I started crying again. And I was like my knowing was like this is so. Important. This is so important this important. Do you know how important this is? This is so sacred. Do you know how sacred this is like never ever lose? This no matter where you are. How old you are who you're with like never ever ever lose this. This is so sacred that you create these rituals for yourself. So that was just such a beautiful moment. 'cause you know, I sometimes forget how special they are. And I just do them. But it was a great reminder for me that it the energetics around ritual. Are are those that are infused into anything in everything I do and all that is coming to me. An on night to we had the privilege of having a a ladies night, two female shamans from Germany, and they were Hon believable on freaking believable lake. I don't even I can't even be into tell you. They were magic and wild. And and when they were singing, which is the most beautiful music I've ever heard in my life. I started to hums why was almost like mimicking and harmonizing with their sounds and notes, and I was being tuned. Isn't that crazy? I just knew I was like, I was I'm being tuned. And I would use kind of like my hands and my arms, and like to tune my voice, my body might energy with their sounds. Oh, and it felt so good. It felt so good. And it reminded me. And I saying I'm sure a lot of you know that. But I I love to sing. And I realized just how important singing as for me in my healing in my life. You know, I'm not out here. Trying to be the next Arianna Guerande in like Silla billion records. Right. Like, I'm singing for me is part of how I I stay alive, right? And so it was just such a power full powerful moment to realize that that is not only something I love to do. And I'm good at that. It is part of how I will heal myself throughout my life. So many many moments in night to the next one was I was being born. So I all of a sudden this wave of of crazy intense like it was a cry and a laughed and NS big fat fucking smile at once. And I was like being borne my face was coming out of my mother's vagina. So imagine like you're facing stretch like through China, and I was ping born me all like, it was the wildest wacky est thing. I was like, okay. I'm being born like what's here. You know? And I just I saw my parents, you know, I saw them in this this moment in time that they were just so happy and proud, and I was the first. So, you know, it was just a really beautiful moment that I for some reason needed to see I I I haven't really understood fully why I had that memory pop up, and, you know, the the intense joy of it. But it was beautiful. You know, I think and I think that's okay. Just just kind of get that simple truth from it that it was so beautiful the dam is born, and I'm gonna cry thinking about it so weird. But like. You know, we we were we don't remember that. Right. So like to bear witness to that moment, and to remember that like that moment was such a joyful moment for for my parents. And my parents who have seen me every almost every moment of my life right up until certain age and just have been with me throughout in such a support night. Yeah. I just I was overwhelmed with with intense, intense joy. Yeah. Night to is beautiful that's sacred popped up again. And this time it popped up. And it just reminded me, you know, with almost thirty that we are creating a sacred grid. So at our events, you know, that Kristen I need to plug into this sacred grid. I. And then facilitate others to plug in to the event to the moment to the experience. And I just realized the power of our presence. You know, I think sometimes we get tripped up in in thinking that we collective we have to fill space with words, and what we know. And and and I just realized the knowing in that moment was like we can hold space, and I'm talking to all of you to like, we women can hold space with less words. Just say, you know, just along as you are plugged in the secret grid, you can hold that. God damn space. Okay. An I should mention that night to you know, I I did have all of these beautiful moments, but ninety two and three I was really really sick. So I did not vomit. I did not shit. But it says if I had the worst flu ever worst flew ever. So light body aches Iowa's the pressure in my head was some of the most intense pressure. I've ever felt in my life. And what I realized too was that like my mind was running close my eyes on the medicine. I would see like this crazy lake, you know, lit up computer chip, and it was just going at like a billion miles per hours. Little and I just saw I was like oh my God. That is my mind that is my mind going, you know, so realizing how. How how fast and crazy my mind can run sometimes and how it can run out of reality so quickly, and it almost it made me sick. Like dizzy to me. And it was just I think magnified on the medicine to show you that. Yes. Well, I I was really really ill. And I could barely move. I could bear Lee move. So you know, when I when I could barely move. I was witnessing a lot of healing around me salt. Bring it back deeter found his way to me again. And you know, I saw him. He was sitting up on his knees sitting up nice and tall and hugging himself in kissing his arms and like swimming through the air and like moving his head like a little parrot. And I just saw this intense. Joy, I assume that he was like literally kid again, and he was just feeling so much joy. And as sick as I felt as a I was in so much painting couldn't move. I started to laugh like I like I could muster out like a little laugh, and I was like, oh, my it was making me feel better in that moment. You know? And I just I realized that you know, witnessing and being a part of someone's healing could really facilitate my own so that was super super powerful. And at one point, you know, this this feeling turned into a paralyzed experience. And what I knew in that moment. It was so quick. I don't know how this came to me. But I was trapped in my body. And I knew that I was in the body of someone that I. That went to my college. And he develops ale s you know, he is an incredible human being who has been, you know, at the forefront of fighting for care for us. And as his you know condition has deteriorated his body and quality of life. But you know, his spirit is so strong and. I was in his body. Hopefully, you know, this doesn't come off strange or disrespectful because I just realized. You know about hit that at least at one point. You know, his mind was just so there it was. So there, you know, I was I was scared. I literally could only move the tip of my finger, and I just felt that moments so much compassion and love for him. And you know, I guess I came out of that feeling just a lot of Lebanon appreciation for my body. Again. You know, the fact that I have a healthy in able body. Yeah. In this life right now and M I living to the fullest in this moment with this healthy able body. Am I depriving myself in any way that deprives my body of like the joy it wants to feel the food at wants to eat the experiences. It wants to experience, you know. I just I kind of went there. I definitely want there with that. Yeah. It was it was it was really powerful who's really powerful. So. Yeah. That that night. You know, again, I was I was just feeling. Super super sick. And at one point there was this beautiful music. Oh my God. I Pia is her name. She was the shaman and she was singing in it. It felt like an any of you that I've ever taken mushrooms might know this. It's like the sounds have shapes and colors, and it's just the most Wild Thing. And when she was singing, I like her voice was the raindrop that was dripping from leaf to leaf to bind tree to frog head to leave. You know, it was just dancing in the forest. It was just so beautiful. And it conjured something within me where I just wanted to like laugh and cry again, but I've as I was laughing because I saw it brought up this image of me as like a a four year olds. And oh my God. She's so funny. She. She was like peeking over her shoulder and looking back at me and making this funny face, and then giggling and turning away and then looking back and like making a funny face, and then I started to mimic her. So I was I was like mimicking her face. And it felt so good to mimic her face. Like, just like if felt good to twist my hair and do all that stuff like to mimic, her face and be silly and lake laugh, and like just kind of follow how I was feeling and expressing it as I was feeling it. Oh, it felt so good. And I know it's so simple. But like, oh, she just like, she just expressed what she felt, you know, like, you know, little kids. That's what they do. And they giggling, and they're crying the next moment. And then they're like making a weird face. And then they're over it. And the you know like it just felt so good. And and and what I really took away from that moment. I just loved her soul much. I loved her. So so much, and I knew like every decision that I was going to make from that moment on. I was going to check it with her. You know, like she's still inside of me. She is me like, and I wanted to make sure that every decision I made anyone I surrounded myself with anything I put into my body any experiences anything I put on TV. I'm like is this good for you as a skit for your heart. This good for your soul. Like, you know, just really checking in with that that little me, you know. Especially hail, especially when it comes to relationships. You know what I mean? Like, what you let her, you know, be talked to in a way this is respectful by someone that you're dating or or you know, tolerate bad behavior in any way. Like, no. So it was a really. A really good reminder. So yeah, I I had a really subtle relatively gentle but powerful experience during my nights of ceremony a night for which is the apparently the most strong night, you know, in terms of the bruise in the most intense. I only took one Cup. I was to be completely honest. I was a little scared. So I I just I was like I just want one Cup the so my heart says, so hey, everybody. I actually did ask mother Iowa guy was like should I have cut number two. And she was like, no, you're okay. And yeah, it was. It was it was really gentle again. And I I was singing a lot again. And and I was going outside. And this night was all night, so seven thirty two sunrise, and I just felt a deep deep sense of peace, and so allowed myself to kind of wander I went outside, and I I did hand puppets against the wall. They were actually amazing like I think I'm very good at him puppets now and I slept outside. You know, I really I just felt like I was one one with the universe. One with nature like one with this moment, and I just felt so taken care of. Yeah. It was just it was really truly beautiful, and I feel. So lucky to experience this I feel so lucky lucky to have witnessed a lot of healing done around me, you know, even after our last night that day if people were up for it, you know, you can go to the beach, you can do whatever you want. So a group of us went went surfing. And holy hell. You know to be in the ocean after four nights of Iowa ska was. I don't know it. It was the ultimate integration for me. You have to be so presently when you're surfing, and the ocean is so powerful, you know, and you do have to kind of surrender in a way. But my friend Jim who's been losing his eyesight since he was five. He's one of the funniest smartest guys of met. He's from Chicago is just a goddamn angel and he came surfing with us. And you know, we made sure, you know, the surfing instructor was with Jim. And I swear to you Jim was the best surfer out of the whole group of fifteen of us. Like it was so intuitive for him. You know, he's he's legally blind like and I caught up to him. I'm like, Jim. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. I'm like what how are you the best surfer of this entire day? My man, and he goes without even hesitating jujitsu. Ju jitsu baby. Oh, man. It was it was just so powerful. He had experienced so much healing to feel the joy to see the transformation in in these people that you had, you know, really gotten to know over over a week's time, you know, at breakfasts in between workshops, even on the plane ride here. You know, we spoke to a few people who are going to read Mia. Some who were there was one woman who is a core. Afo bec- for ten years. She had just lost her husband. She was terrified to fly. Like, she, you know, self Medicated with weed and alcohol, and and you know, it was just really depressed. And I swear to you on the other side of this thing, she was a completely completely different person. No fear of flying, first and foremost, but she she had this just joy. And childlike wonder about her that was oh, I'll never forget it. I will truly never forget it. You know, it is never too late to heal. It is never too late to feel and fine new joys in your life. I just found so much hope and love in in watching people who, you know, had spent more than a life my lifetime, you know, more than thirty years dealing with pain and trauma and addiction and depression and anxiety. And and and they changed, you know, they they were reprogrammed they were healed. And I just thank God that I was able to witness that. I'm sure I missed a million things, but we've been talking for a while. And I just I love you guys so much, and you know, I again was was really nervous about the judgement around this experience and. So thank you all for being so open hearted around this topic. Obviously like, you know, it's not for everyone. And for us. We just we want to offer you say an experiences that you know, could be helpful. And but we always encourage you to trust your gut follow your heart like, you know, yourself and your body best. And so, yeah, I just am proud to have have done this into share this with you. And what they say is that the healing and the integration, and the realizations happens for months, you know, weeks months if not years after your experience with Iowa ska, and it's been true. So I've committed to really doing yoga Moore's I'm practicing you'll go at least four days a week, that's really helped me to integrate. I know people say they're like meditation yoga, meditation yoga. Yeah. Do it. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I totally get it. And I don't even know what to say about it. I get it. And then being in nature. I mean, I am committing to a couple of days a week getting outside really outside like going on a hike like really committing to an hour or two and mix ended for summer to be in the ocean more. There's just something to being a part of something so much bigger than you. But feeling so loved and supported and taking care of at the same moment by this Baker thing. And so I just encourage you an encourage you to just like go there, you know, with all this new shit. Yes. I know if you were to tell your co workers, your parents like your boyfriend, your girlfriend, whatever it would sound crazy, maybe and that might being Zaidi inducing. But if you feel it in your heart, I need you to go for it and to fully immerse yourself and things that might, you know, in the mainstream sound a little, but this is a part of your healing. And your willingness to go there is is the point like the energy around just like saying. Yeah, let's do it. It's like that kid inside of you like. Yup. Let's do it. You know, like go there. You know? Don't don't half ass. It we fully support you, you know, that and we have a community in almost thirty that fully supports you. You know, if weird stuff works for you. Do it proudly if weird stuff works for you, do it. Okay. I love y'all so much. Make sure you cry this week. Make sure you laugh make sure you touch and thank your body. Make sure you move. Make sure you get out in nature. Make sure you nourish your body. Don't restrict make sure you si-. Make sure you a Persian someway yawn laugh, saying, even if you're not a good singer. Who cares y'all like move your body in a way that has grounding and cathartic, you know, you. Deserve all of these things. So. Goforth? I love you all so much. Thanks for listening. My hope you've got something out of this episode. And if you did share it with your friends if you did message me on Instagram at Lindsey Simsek, that's us. I am CI. K I answer all of meet my DM's. It's me someone the other day was like, even if this isn't you hoes like, it's me. I'm not that important. I my own TM's. But I want to connect with you. So any questions or comments, please send them my way? And also last thing I had some books recommended to me while I was at red mea they are journey of souls. Your body keeps the score and daily love. So check those books out. I am going to order them right now. I love you. I love you. Thank you for all of your support. You mean the world to us and I'll see you soon fan. Those beautiful. Thank you so much Q. Thanks, John mother. Iowa's shots shots. Arrhythmia? You can go to rub site again to find the link to go to rid Mia. And if you wanna ask us any questions just damn us or join the secret Facebook group, we're not sharing these to promote any sort of lifestyle or any sort of decision just sharing truly what is our experience in life, and a healing modality that could be explored. If you show wish it to be all right review of the week. Life-changing doesn't begin to cover it five stars. I attribute a lot of my life altering decisions to the confidence and self love. I found through listening to this podcast over the past year. I've gone fulltime in my business started leading keeling workshops in New York City and met amazing local women who are now close friends. The transition of twenties thirties is an easy, but Kristen Lindsey truly made myself and other women peel like any and everything we're going through is normal. Guess that are on this podcast have opened my eyes to so much and have helped me on my own healing journey as I assist other women through. There's thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all that you do that's from Joey Shelley. Oh, thank you. Honey, did who she at that so much you guys are such an important part of our community and our life. And that's what makes almost thirty different is the community that we have around us almost thirty nation through our ambassador program through the meet ups. You guys are hosting all over the world through our connections made on tour even online in the Facebook group or online on Instagram. It means a lot. So thank you for taking just a few minutes to write a review for us Lindsay. And I really appreciate it. Yeah. And on tour this year, if you're able to make it, obviously, you're we always encourage people to come alone. Don't feel like you have to come with people to be able to go to an event lengthiest. But if you to feel like someone could Hughes community laughs, maybe some deeper conversation inspiration. We definitely recommend inviting them just you know pass. It along to them. We'd love to see that the tour is really a special time. We we don't take it lately that you buy the tickets make the time, and it's our favorite part of what we do with you. All so. Yeah, we love you so much. We will see you next time almost thirty podcasts on Instagram almost thirty podcasts dot com. And then check out our tour dates there, you can buy tickets on the conscious City Guide page, which is on our website and podcast pro if you want to start about Gus. All right. Bye.

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Bulakar uski pahchan ko sab meri pahchan se use pahchan Lage | Yakshi Yash

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Bulakar uski pahchan ko sab meri pahchan se use pahchan Lage | Yakshi Yash

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37: *Stories Across Asia* Week

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09:11 min | 10 months ago

37: *Stories Across Asia* Week

"Hi and welcome to feedback with your butts. The podcast arm of ear buds podcast collective. I'm Maryelle your host and the founder of your buds. This episode covers the week of June Fifteenth Nineteenth Twenty Twenty. Ear Buds podcast collective is listening movement. We sent an email. Every Sunday that contains a theme and five podcast episodes on that team and each week's podcast picks are curated by a different person. Anyone can curate a list on this show. I'll share our five podcast episode recommendations of the week some information about our curator and some more information about the episodes. We'll also share some podcast industry news Patriot shouts then we'll wrap it all up. I are ear buds podcasts collective recommendations. This week's theme comes to us from Norm Chela and is called stories across Asia. Here's my norm chose the seem. He says. Hi, my name is Norman Chella host of the PODCAST pod lovers, Asia and the theme I chose is stories across Asia. I chose this theme because there are many different narratives, cultures and anecdotes within the realm of Asia and I want to share that colorful experience of everybody. Here, the episodes chosen by norm for this week's theme along with short descriptions of each episode. The first episode of the week comes from the podcast home dot and is called homework machine. It's twenty six minutes long. Here's the description. In the age of fast fashion, the worrying sound of a singer may seem to belong to a different era. Instead of the of domestic industriousness and thrift it might be the sound of nostalgia for my student men. It sounds like home. In this episode I highlight a sewing machine that bound a family together for three generations, but today stands idol. We traveled to hear the machine and its story in order to understand one woman's commitment to her family, and how this machine dissolved the barrier between home and work. The next episode recommendation comes to us from the PODCAST. Eat Drink Asia and has called all about that spam. It's twenty three minutes long. Loved from South, Korea to the Philippines to Hawaii. Spam is eaten in forty four countries with twelve point. Eight cans consumed every second according to the company. Fried Baked boiled or braised the pork based luncheon meat was first a hit in the US during the Great Depression and then in Asia after World War Two. The next episode comes to us from Indian. Noir and is called. Indian EX issue number two the vase, horror anthology. It's a quick ten minutes long. Issue number two of real life. Paranormal experiences shared with India Noir unadulterated terror delivered straight to your ears. The next episode comes to us from the inspired money podcast and is called. It started with music. It's twenty two minutes long. This is Andy. Wang story about how doing a favor for his friend from Maui has benefited his community in New Jersey many times over. And the last episode of the week comes to us from the ants under the Sun podcast. It's called the burn tricycle. It's eighteen minutes long. Here's the description. I saw it firsthand. three-wheeled and tiny the right size for a five year old, rustic broken, since shut, the handles the tires and stuck to the very floor. It was extracted from when it happened. A remnant, depicting one of the greatest atrocities in human history. those are episodes chosen by norm. Chela for this week's theme stories across Asia. You can follow along with the discussion of this week's podcast episodes by using the Hashtag stories across Asia. Each week in our newsletter, curator's have a chance to show off something that they love. It can be a nonprofit a project that they're working on or really anything. We call it ourself Promo section. Here's what norm wants to share. He writes. 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172 - Death of the old you

The Next Level Life Podcast

14:20 min | 8 months ago

172 - Death of the old you

"The next of life cost by Christine Corcoran is for all hots entrepreneurs who wants to up level then mindset motivation and business to make positive and meaningful impact in the world today. So if you love what you do and want to hear from inspiring what ladies and successful business on. Where we have real conversations and real connections then this is for you. I want to assist you in finding the clarity N. awareness you need to upload your mindset and set your soul on fire to take massive aligned action in your business. So you can take your life to the next level. Ready to get started. Let's go. I've always loved the symbolism and metaphor. aww transformation being like a butterfly Fro Butterfly to exist it must go through a transformation. It begins as a caterpillar and then it is current and it goes into this mush and technically actually goes through a death the caterpillar dies and is reborn as a butterfly. and. The reason why I'm bringing this correlation together is I feel like transformation is like a death the old year. It is you becoming the butterfly, but for you to be able to fly and be able to spread your into expand, we need to go through a mini death. This is the death of our identity. The death of who we thought that we used to be the thought of who we believe we are. When things start to change and business grows and may get to a whole new level? Transformation, becomes pot of the journey and even sometimes it can feel like you're being forced to transform and you're being almost catapulted along. There is an element that is definitely of choice we can choose to fullback into familiar patents. We can choose to do things we've always done and believed things we've always believed or we can choose to transform and allow the old identity to no longer exist. So, we are currently what walking around as a human being with an identity that we have created and identity is created by our interpretation of our experience. So we have a belief system about who we believe. We are in this belief systems are made up of things that people have said about us. So maybe someone said Jim a smart maybe someone said. that. You were capable at something and it's building up these belief systems of who we believe that we are and as well as our interpretation of PAS experience of what we've been able to achieve in who we believe are in certain situations. The way that we react the way that we engage with people, all of these types of things develop our identity. Our identity is nothing but the decisions that we've made about who we are and the way that we've decided to fuse it altogether to become ourself. It's almost like the labels that we give Chela the way that we define our entity defines alive. And so we've got this identity and we go through these transformation growth phase and it feels like we're dying like it spills like you're not. You feels like you're out of control it feels like. Changing around you and you have to change with it and so very technically upon review that is dying. And through that process, we search for the familiar we feel research to feel safe. We searched for familiar patents, familiar people, familiar results to find certainty because that what is familiar feel safe. And yet for the butterfly to transform. A Caterpillar wanting to become the butterfly. Right. We see the people who are already butterflies and we see them flying and we see them transforming and we say them expanding. We want to be them. But yet we're sort of fearful of the change that it will take to get there, and we're so fearful of transformation and the challenge that we're GONNA have to get through to get there. The other element of the metaphor that I absolutely love is that when a butterfly is about to come out of the cocoon. It's so important that you allow the butterfly to push through the current to break a cocoon open to expand its wings and then fly and the reason for that is that because they butterfly if you actually helped butterfly out of it's cocoon, its wings not strong enough to be able to fly in the butterfly dies. Right. So one I love about this is that when a butterfly is pushing out of, it's cocoon that resistance is actually creating the strength, it needs to create the resilience and to be able to fly. The wings need to be strengthened through that resistance resistance of pushing the cocoon off. And so if you want to think about that through elements of Your Business, but you need to push through and have challenged and have those obstacles, come your way to help strengthen your wings before you're ready to fly with at that challenge, you cannot be strengthened. So as we're going through this transformation, it can feel like we're dying because there's an old pot of us that no longer can exist. There's an old pot of us that we need to shed and let go off. And it can feel like a mini death. The death of the EGO, the death of their identity of who we believe we used to be. But in saying that, we also need to develop this new identity of we believe we can be when we start to spread our wings and fly. and. That's why love to really focus on future cells and sought to really determine who is that person had they hold themselves? What do they believe about themselves? How do they speak? How did I stand? What is important to them? What do they value? and. The more we can articulate that easy. The transformation becomes because that shedding becomes easier because we're no longer looking towards the past of who we used to be in trying to find that familiar were actually developing a whole new level of who we believe we are through stepping into feed yourselves. And I want to bring the correlation to what's also happening in the world right now, the world is going through a huge change and transformation is going to be possible. We need to let go of the way things used to be. And it's going through this almost mini death ride the death of our old way of being the death of the way that we used to show up in the world and for the world to transform in for us to step into this new world. This new way of being, we've got to allow the death of old systems and structures that norlander service. And yes, it's going to be painful and yes, is going to be hard. It's going to be challenging but we cannot fly expand become the butterfly. How selves to work through it. And I think that it's also a from a different perspective as well. So often when we're so focused on the pain of it, it can be really hard to allow ourselves to transform into release. The old way of banks we're looking back and we're looking at who we used to be, how comfortable things used to be in how easy it was and how safe it felt. And if we're looking that way then yes, a causes bloody painful. But if we shift our focus on focus towards the future of what we're going to be able to achieve and the person we were going to be able to become and the experiences will be able to experience the ways that we can show up for ourselves and the new way of being. The memorial likely to want to push through and embrace those challenges from a whole new perspective. And I believe that any growth that happens in business or in life comes from a place of uncertainty. Right? We've come from a place of certainty of knowing exactly who we are and how we behave and how we interact with those around us we. Without surroundings and the actions that we take in the way that we spend our time in our day and I. And then we go through this transformation and. Through that transformation, there was always going to be a level of uncertainty as we develop a new level of certainty. Does that make sense? So we need to go through the answer to before we can find that new level of certainty and that new level of certainty we based on that new identity of who we believe we can become. So. Yeah. Transformation feels like you're dying. It's not nice right and I think that we can often get caught up in the payment and we can retreat and go back to who we used to be and we stay there because it's comfortable. But. I guess the only sites comfortable for so long. So we need to choose whether we decide to push through and work towards being the person we want to become and transform. Because technically who are you? Anyway right. We are set of belief systems and set of behaviors and decisions that we've made and that is always changing. So we can we can change and I, think we also need to focus on the possibility of what is at there for us. And know that we can change often people get so caught up in the fact that they don't believe that they can change. But that's because the EGO is there to protect us and keep us being the same identity that we've been in the past. And so we have this death of the eager that happens through that transformation, and that can be really painful because it's this. Ego that's there to protect you to make you feel safe yet, it's the attachment to the old identity. So what part of your own identity do you need to release which part of your own identity in no longer serves you need to let go of? And then what level of certainty genie to let go of because there's an element of being comfortable that does not support your transformation because if you're always looking for comfort, it's Changes never comfortable, right. So if we're always looking for comfort, we're always going to lean back on things that we've always done. And if we want transformation. Dot We've gotta get. Comfortable. With. Being. uncomfortable. Butterfly didn't just give up and die in the cocoon. It has to be reborn and it has to push through the cocoon to be strengthened to come at the other side and to be able to fly you have the ability to fly. You've just gotTa look change as an opportunity to grow an opportunity to embrace and. Strengthen your skills, strengthen your capabilities, strengthen your mindset. So then you can push through challenging times. So what are some of the identifying factors of who you believe you are when you think about your identity what words would you have that define who you are. Often, we will have labels that we attached to ourselves qualifications of. WHO WE ARE IN THE WORLD WHO WE'VE BEEN IN? The. And we attach ourselves to those labels of identity. And then we create a shift and I say this happened with business owners that actually shift from different industries or they will may be in a certain role in their jobs. But then I created a business stepped into a whole new industry and they discount themselves in a way that. Because they're starting from in a whole new place, a whole new identity. They discount their experience from the poss when they're really. All of that including new identity. And so yes, there's always an evolution of letting go of the Pasta and releasing what no longer serves you from the past. But at some point we need to determine who we want to be and who he wants to become. So then that new identity can be can start to form. It's all about reinvention riot. We've gotTA reinvent ourselves and those elements of your identity. Who you want to be starts with your values starts with your belief systems starts with your actions and. Who you want to become and the more you can define who that person is. And how they behave and the beliefs that they have no values that they deem important the easier is to step into become them. And this has to be a conscious decision that you decide. Because as you're going through that transformation, you've got to lean on that because he acts getting get challenging and there's going to be times where you feel like you want to give up and then those the Times that you need to push on and those are the Times need to reinforce the new version of you that you want to become. So if you want to expand if you WANNA fly if you want to become the butterfly, it is up to you to be able to. Shift that identity and transform yourself through choice. Defining who you want to become an through releasing the old version of you. And I love that. Incredible. Court by Thomas. Edison. If we all the things we are capable of doing. We would literally astound. On honestly believed that that's true. We often stay sorry familiar and stay safe in the same behaviors and the same things that we're doing day in day out yet if we challenged ourselves to truly fly and truly transform, we would astound ourselves with what we're capable off. We are all limitless. The only limit we have is the limit that we place on ourselves. So if you feel like you're in the cocoon at the moment and you've either gone to moshing that you start know who you are anymore. Please are that you are halfway through route you're almost through to the transformation and I want you to push through and I want you to challenge yourself to embrace us challenges to strengthen your wings. So then when that Kern stretches and comes a pot that you're ready to fly. So. Whether you are the Caterpillar or you are the butterfly right now. Allow yourself to step in an astounding yourself of what's possible. You are capable of anything. You have the ability to do whatever it is. You put your mind to I'm so excited to see you become the butterfly that I know that you can be. So embrace what's coming next and I hope you have an incredible way. Thank you for listening and I hope you enjoyed today. Of the next one locked podcast. I'd love to hear any takeaways had today's episode of please share with me on. INSTAGRAM facebook. feels. Passes onto any friends family feel benefited from. Looking forward to speaking you next week and to taking a lot to make level.

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Bonus! How To Give Yourself a Spa-Worthy Facial At Home

Breaking Beauty Podcast

39:40 min | 3 weeks ago

Bonus! How To Give Yourself a Spa-Worthy Facial At Home

"The phone rang. Podcast is a deer media production. Welcome to breaking beauty. The podcast all about the breakthrough and moments and beauty. We're your hosts. Jill done and carleen hagans all let s carleen and gel. Hi hey and surprise. We are back in your feeds on another monday with a very special bonus episode. That's right today. Were partnering with our friends at clarence to discuss how to give yourself a spa worthy facial at home and this topic could not have come at a better time. Honestly tell me about it. It's been more than a year at this point. Since i've had a facial from a professional and i'll be honest. I just miss that zen zone moment. Yeah definitely a perk of our job. I probably took it for granted for too long. I would say. But i'm so happy to be partnering with clarence on this. I have some really beautiful memories of my facials with clarens. The top memory. That i have was when i was on a press trip and i visited the spa at the hotel. Low royal monceau raffles paris. It is. i mean it's just five star all the way like philip stark designed. It's all white crystal mirrors it's got like an underlay pool chefs kiss and all the products are plant based. But they're not afraid to like hate you with the light therapy mask. You know what i mean. It's like hi tack with nature. I mean what more could you want right That sounds like heaven. I just want to be able to like get under weeded heated javale or like heated bed in a dark room listening to soft jazz for an hour. Like i'm even craving that like you know it's just it's been you do that yourself. They sell the way the blankets. It's true in a true but then lying down doing my own facial yes on track but so is going to be a little bit longer. I think until. I'm back in that spot environment so we're really leaning into the spot home idea and given that clarence really has spas all over the world. It makes perfect sense to team up with them on this topic So in today's episode were speaking with clarins vice president of education christie chela. Who's going to school us on how to get those pro results at home like. Do you really need to steam. Can you safely do extractions your solve. Plus we get detailed about the best techniques for lymphatic drainage around is because we still get so many questions in our facebook chat room about how to reduce darkness puffiness at home. One person was even recommending potato slices in our chat room. So we're going to learn the exact. I massage moves to help you get the most out of your eye cream without having to lake us the food that you might need for jenner. Yeah and on that note we wanna to give you the scoop on the latest news from clarence and they've just launched a hashtag damn good eye cream and it's called their total. I lived and really it's causing a huge sensation because the claim is that it works in sixty seconds flat. Yep and i know. Laura harry the actor she partnered with clarence on the launch. She's obsessed with using. Ed she does the diy lymph drainage techniques. So i'm excited to learn. You stops how to do it. We're gonna share a video on instagram. With a little demo. And you're going to hear all about it from christie just ahead. Yeah and i've been using the total. I left myself for a few months. And i think the first thing i love about it and i have since day one is the texture so smooth and lightly but like feels very hydrating and nourishing. And i find that you do get that subtle smoothing and tightening effect right away and once i got it on i felt like it kind of did a nice job of like filling in so to speak the lines around my eyes cross feeds on my conceal or wasn't going into those lines. Yeah it's nice under makeup. I know thought too. I really lavender makeup. If you wanna learn more we're gonna link to at in our show notes. We've got a promo code. You can check it out at clarence. Usa dot com but You know. I think that whole working in sixty seconds is you're just like what so we're gonna put that question to christie later in the episode but first christie's here to walk us through the exact steps to creating your best spot style facial at home whether yet sensitive or the or skin so hold onto your lemon water. This is your diy. Facial guide courtesy of clearance. Welcome christie to our show to breaking beauty. Podcast if i'm not mistaken. I think you're in your bathroom right now. I am trying to create atmosphere. Okay that's perfect. I love that you are setting the mood already. So you know. We're obviously talking about at home. Facials today setting. The ambiance is so important light a candle. You've got that going already. So let's start with that first step. Is there anything spa inspired. You'd recommend to your clients to recreate like a facial worthy cleansing experience versus. You know just a regular daily cleansing that we might already be doing. Yeah definitely and think that the first thing that you need to do is we always say that you know great. Skin starts with clean skin. I mean it's like the april of every good skincare routine. And you really want to start out with something super gentle. I feel like you know for me whether i'm working from home. Or whether i'm putting into the s which. I'm doing a little bit of both these as as i mentioned a lot of of your listeners. Or doing his bell. i'm. I'm always in a hurry looking for something that's really quick and ab multi-tasking. But for something a little bit more luxurious. I might recommend that you start with a makeup remover or cleanser. That is definitely gentle. Make sure it doesn't have any less so no sodium salt a it's Which could be irritating to the skin. And then just decide which texture that you want to pamper yourself. if you bubbles use a gentle foaming at type cleanser. If you like you know essential oils us using oil cleanser but really just be out which texture you like west and i would say to give yourself like that experience beaks your one that it has a lot of sense reality in. I think that's one of the things we re when we walk into a spots like right away. There's this small. I those relaxing aroma therapeutic sense. Yes so so. Make sure that the cleansing and your tony routine that you're using a cleanser that's just elite gentle on your skin and like on the whole thing. That's when i'm over. Yeah for your mean. One of the things that i always tried to do is when i get ready to start my. You know my my self care. Sunday which sometimes is turned into you. Self care monday. Tuesday rents just because it's so it's so now right but i always just takes up rogue deep rafts inhale exile you wanna get your mind and you know getting right head space too so that you really enjoy that hampering daytime which i would go so far as to say isn't even hampering these days. It's it's not a luxury it's a necessity right absolutely and if you have kids locked the door pets though kids their ads do not disturb. Sign on cly. so we've got the cleansing covered christie. So next step would be explanation on my right. Yeah i think you know for us what we really want. When i think about expoliation i always think about expoliation that is gentle and is it harsh however it depending on your level of sensitivity you might prefer something granular the granular type spread. Which is that is typical It has micro beads to gently lift in remove dead skin cells balls in charities. And then you have chemical kill which system of hydroxy acids salicylic acid or fruit acids and bat stays on this in a little bit longer. Usually about ten minutes or so. And the you rinse with water and follow with tony romm shannon so we really want to think about cleansing. Tony exposed own gating bass game as your preference when it comes to those textures. So let's talk about steaming at home. I feel like this is somewhat controversial. So why would you do it or not do it or do you have a handy at home. Steamer that you personally like to use. Yeah i think you know again. It really comes back to your skin type and your level of sensitivity. Here's the really cool thing about steam. Which steam does so. I think probably your your listeners are really savvy and they probably know that your don't actually open enclosed. That's not what happens when you When you use steam but what. Steam does is in allows the skin to not constrict so what happens. Steaming is the skin is more susceptible and receptive to whatever products that you're going to be putting on top of it but when you use esteem on skin hackney super careful with people who have rose atia or they haven't tendency to have a capillaries. That are a little bit inflamed even if it's not associated with rosacea because those type of skin conditions the steam could actually aggravate the capillaries and calls them to flare up more frequently and so generally when. I say if you can't get into you know your your favorites in right now where you may be having your favorites theme or your favorite extraction. Ed by your esta titian simply us. You know warm water. Use were water on a towel and you can gently place that over your face after this and then when you get ready to mask no have a skin is open and receptive. You've actually do your own berge in of steam with at that hot towel. He gently based on the skin. That's a good idea me personally. I get a little bit claustrophobic. With steam knocking ally. So that's actually a better idea for someone like me now. My favorite of the facial is like the extractions. Oh yeah when she puts the institution puts the like mask over. My eyes and i can sensors a bright light coming like. Just get so excited. Because i want those black heads gone. But i'm so scared to do it by myself at home. Do you have any tips or tricks to do it. Well i would first of all not do it myself. No no i'm gonna tell you. Why ladies recent that. I wouldn't do it at home if you have a little bit of a a medium to darker skin tone and use and you do extraction incorrectly home. You could actually offer more harm than good because what ends up happiness while you may have great pleasure from extract in that blemish left behind or skin tones that are medium to earth is hyper pigmentation and you end up with with dark spots on scan which could become urban edge if you leave it there long enough and it's and now you're happy to look at you know products. Lighten hyper pigmentation. So you actually would cause more harm by doing extractions yourself. If you're not doing them correctly. But i do have a suggestion for that. And i think you know we're all missing our our aestheticians right now. Mean i i missed mine so much and you know just being able to relax and like you jump on the l. at light comes on you. You know what's coming back since You know it's exciting for the game. Yes but i think you are exfoliating and masking your skin a minimum of two times a week. And you're doing regular the deep fundraising halloween x. oriented masking using high-quality ingredients and textures. That are right in time can really help loosen black heads and clogged pores without having to go through the extraction so where we left off. We've now sort of done our own steaming using a warm cloth so what would be next in the spa environment after the steaming is at like mask or serum after the exfoliating. You definitely want to do mass gain And definitely do something again. That is to meet your immediate. Beat so if you are you looking to comfort this in and try to find a good bass that has a high other onic acid. If you're looking for purifying try to find something. That's got the alpine willow. And you're more of a mac shin if you're looking for anti aging or mass have hedrick peptides or a e. These sorts of ingredients again will give your skin needs a storm year insurnace but i always liked to expose gate and mask together as i think you see the best results and there's a lot of people take you leads tone and then full nate and mask which is totally fine but we do recommend that after fully in mass you do your toning lotion to really rebalance the skin and get it ready for the ice cream this yarns and struts. Okay so the reason you do the masking after the exfoliating in the steaming just so that that moisture gets in it penetrates more as on it yet because what happens when you're exfoliating his year sloughing off against skin that sort of you know sitting on the surface and see what a mask on skin that his new so to speak so when you back at healthy skin it's now it's those because you excoriated and sloughed up all the dead skin. Your mask is now going to have much better results. So let's talk about or just go a little bit deeper with the toning. So why is that step really so important to do after the exfoliating and the masking. And what should you look for in a toner for each skin type yet. The tony lotions are really great for two reasons. One a help to restore balance to the skin. Especially if you if you're rinsing with hard water a alter the natural balance of your skin. Which is your natural water and oil balanced. Which should be about seventy percent water and about thirty percent oil so it restores that natural balance to your skin but it also practice your skin for your serums and moisturizers like the analogy that i always like to share with. Everyone is if you think about the you two difference. Sponges sitting in your kitchen counter right one is completely dry and one is slightly damp. And you spill something on your kitchen countertop. that's fun that's bone-dry is not going to absorb it. It's not going to soak up spill but if you have a sponge that's slightly damn when you go to soak up this fill. It absorbs it much more quickly. If you think about tony locations like that they help with the absorption of everything at you're putting on and i remain general. Look for tony. Options are for sure alcohol free definitely you wanna avoid alcohol because he astringent in caused irritation to the skin. Now is possible. Try to find you motions. That don't have any added or synthetic has those sorts of things to be irritating to the skin and apostle something that that is fragrance free as well okay. Those are good tips now. When do we get to the fun stuff one. Just the clarens massage the signature techniques. When does that come into play right now. Okay yes tell us everything okay. So i'm not sure if you all familiar with the fact that the founder arends was a massage therapist and it's we started in in a skin spa long before we ever had the offered products for sale and so with biscuits It was all about application methods that helped to boost my research. Elation to boots lymphatic drainage and the idea was that we boots micro circulation and emphatic. Drainage you bring more a healthy oxygen to the scannon so healthy oxygen of his skin. Do it makes more radiant a win. You busse lymphatic drainage it has a detoxifying bet and so that you at helps to reduce innate puffiness ini inflammation or any swelling and eastern. All of those things are so important to achieve instead of already. If you have more oxygen you had more radiance. If you have less a toxins that are causing your skin to be puffy. When your skin looks healthy with less puffiness it has a tendency to look younger and more rested and so all them stains are super important in in in with the exclusive apprecation advance. It's really all about that. Anatomy of the body. It's about stimulating boasts two things and the micro circulation and baddeck drainage and if i could just add one other thing about that natural process is that when you look at somebody who is younger in their early twenties. Right the analogy. I always like to give. Is this your micra circulation. And your lymphocytic drainage it's in slowing batch throughout your body ended like a roaring rapid river is flowing so there's new obstacles in its way but as we get older what happens. Is your micra circulated. And your lymphatic drainage starts to slow down so instead of that roaring rapid your micro circulation lymphatic circuit is a bit like a lacy. And that's what our unique application methods are designed to do to improve that micro-circuitry that would drainage. I feel like the french. Just have that unlock. They just know that. An eight lee but we need to be told. All of these things like tired. Understand is so. Is there a single move that you'd recommend that we can do ourselves at home. That would make a difference in our own spa facial so you use your arm to do it or a tool or an oil. What do you do well. The first thing that we do is we start with the cree. That's the first thing that we do a lot of electrical serums on first. But here's what. I always say about putting a serum. I is that. Cd-roms are designed to penetrate deep into the skin. They're designed to travel so to speak. We recommend that you put an eye on. I why because it's almost like putting a little fence around the area. So that the only thing treating the is is the product that you are using itself which has been ophthalmologist tested. And it's you know. Safer contact lens wearers or people with sensitive eyes. And so that's why we recommend starting with your eye product or your serums in your moisturizers and it if you ladies are ready. I'd love to walk you through the application method. That will give you best results absolutely. Let's hear it so i'm gonna use one. Hump of the total is left. Which as you can see. It's just a tiny amount. She's holding a fingertip full basically. Yes of course about the size of your rise to about yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one up the size of a p and then what we're gonna do you. Arleen is working to rub it again. There between our fingers and this just warmed product and the reason that we recommend warming product body temperature is because just like warm butter bouts on warm toast faster. Plant extracts will melt into the skin faster in their in their warmed to body temperature. Your palms or not in your fingertips are not highly exorbitant. So it's not going to absorb a lot of the products so just a few sweeps of your fingertips together and ben but supply firm yet gentle pressure with three thinkers under the i starting from the inner corner. Then you're going to move to the center under i using for gentle pressure. Now let's move to the outer under corner of the. I went that for pressure. And let's take it one step further and go all the way to your temples where we have a tendency to see crows feet and we're going to repeat that same process with the upper island so we would start with ray thinkers on the inner upper corner of the i just underneath that eyebrow right on that orbital bone then moving to the center of the i then a fine pressure in the outer corner of the upper eyelid finishing on those temples once again to get those crows feet. And then here's an new step which we absolutely love dump back year three fingers and apply pressure right in between your eyebrows. Were you have a tendency to notice. The expression lines sometimes referred to as the eleven's because concentrate. You see those deep lines in between the browse. When i do when i'm reading ovid news. This is still happening. So we're gonna apply pressure there and then there's unless step which i love and it's because of her formula and that's to take your fingertips and apply the right on your i suppose is your is yes. Close your eyes and applying your your fingers right on your eyelids so that you can build the base of your lashes and that's what helps strengthening condition your eyelashes as well and and do that with any i products that you're using it doesn't matter which read you use any product if you are to find with that type of method versus and i wanna take minutes. Just talk about why because we've heard a lot of things right like use the weight ring finger because it's the we guest being a what it is. The we guessed the problem with using just a ring finger. Because it's the weakest means that you're not ashini fluids away from the the under. I do not machine those toxins away. So we want to move those fluids to the lymphatic collectors and they can get away from the eye and then it's just important that the reason were pressing in not sweeping anything around the is because i like to say that. Your skin is a bit like a rubber band right. So yeah or the more you sweep pool or can the or mike lee. You are to lose last tiffany and even if you you're sweeping gently under the i you're probably not sweeping jet assets and you're most likely stretching in which could us premature lines and wrinkles so that's why we always recommend pressing. You know what it's so interesting that you say that christie because we were talking to somebody else recently and they were saying how they actually thought facial massaging was aging for that reason and i was like do not say that because what i go get a facial. That's my favorite part. And so no. I think it really just depends too on if you have a professional institution who has products on your skin. That provide a really nice amount of slippage. Absolutely that's that's okay because we also know that something that's going to give you. A good amount of slip is okay. I would still they trust. Trust your rapid professional. Sometimes i book. It's been a long time because they've been using these techniques for so long it's it's like second nature but you know every down ran at the end of the night i'll look over and see my husband and he still sweeping and i'm like. Hey what are you doing. Look look what are you look at your your skin your eyes bullying and but i was doing it light and i'm like no. Yeah not doing it. Light up so right john better. Yeah okay at a house. Your i feel though by the raking. I asked as an ilbo feels great. It feels so good. I mean i also loved the texture of this eye cream because it is like a bomb and just feels so nice and like it's melting into my skin. He and the texture is one of my favorite parts about it as well. It is a true cream gel texture. And that's one of the things that i love about the total. I let's because it gives you that visible lifting action immediately so no matter what your age you're gonna have those instant results thanks to the cassie power has the are wax. And then you day. After day had long term anti aging results and lifting and firming benefits as a be organic hereon i can sense in. Our listeners are probably going say. What cassie flower. What is yes there. There's actually a flower it's called. Cassie flowered has a little yellow. They look like pompoms on it. And there's a wax within the flower that highly protective of the plant itself and it protects it from the environment edge. And if you think about like think about how many times we take pictures and and then before we posted on social media we immediately go to filter to drive you talking about kristie. I've never that guess why you might not do it as quickly when you're using something that has cassie fluoro- accident because it's a smoothing filter so it has a film a- janik texture that when you perfect cassie flower wax around the under the eyes and as well as on the eyelids when that cassie lower waxed starts to dry. But it's probably a terrible analogy. But i'm willing to bet money you in. All the viewers will understand listeners. I should say will understand us. Do you remember when we were kids and used to love putting blue on the palm of hand and it would die up remember. Her hassi lower wax has that sort of tightening action and the action on the lid. Which is why you can see that instant. Lift when your trust me. It's not going to be harsh by blue. Not like that and it heels much better. Yeah that's what i was. I wanted to ask you about the you know why it is that so many of the women who you tested the product on said. They saw results in sixty seconds. Because that's pretty unusual for an eye cream. I wondered if it was sort of one of those like tensor. It technologies in case. You're getting the instant tightenings. I'm sure you're getting long-term effects too but so does that sort of wash off then when you take off the product yet it does but what's important to note it's not like you're going to have tight is and in the minute you wash your face or take your makeup aubrac start sagging and drooping again because while we promise results we don't promise miracle so that's not bad but because of the day after day and the long-term anti-aging benefits the organic herring gonna stimulates that. I broke last. Sal which there are far fewer of those collagen producing cells around the icon for area. So when you stimulate that collagen productions in becomes more dense. The fibers become richer. And you ended up noticing that long term. You have firming. Nfl so so carleen you are. You're gonna see be immediate lifting and smoothing effect let you'll see long term benefits with continued use but sixty seconds. I mean that's a sixty seconds. Flat is is how takes to see that instant left. Well that's what. I like in an eye cream because i hot debate for some people on whether or not they should even be bothered to use an eye cream and i feel like i love it. When there's an instant benefit along with its sort of like incentive to continue to use that more concentrated formula that you know is going to be safe around that thinner skin So i love that at like the the to benefit at the same time. So you basically you notice it addresses every single possible and certain that you have and i call it the ferrari of ice creams and it just gives you like the best results so regardless of your age if you're looking for anti aging for bean toning hydration minimizing puffiness start circles. Fine lines wrinkles crows feet. I mean i know. I know i said no miracles just results and it sounds like a miracle but i promise you. It's just results. It's called a rory now kristie. That's what my. That's what my youtube watching six-year-old tells me that he can't wait to get his rarity for his birthday but one of the things i wanted to ask you. Going back to the lymphatic drainage technique that you talk about how to do. I'm going to show you guys on instagram. Does that help with dark circles because we get asked about dark circles a lot and we didn episode with dermatologist and plastic surgeon. And you know it's great to get the perspective of you know what you can do in a spa and what you do at home. And i feel like you know i- creams are great. But if there's something we can do to help with that circulation so that that will help with that for sure. And i always say like fifty percent of the magic is in your product but fifty percent of the magic is in your application bed and when you're talking about dark circles if they were to make sure that you are not doing his you're not talking about the dark circles. That are from hyper pigmentation. So we're not talking about brown spots. Under the i. We're talking about the dark circles that become visible because of four circulation and missing that there will absolutely help and that's why we say used three fingers under the eye area. Don't just use one and don't press like a feather. Apply a little bit of pressure that you can actually see that the puffiness almost when you're looking in the mirror start to move towards that outer border and away from the under eye area and that's really gonna help to minimize the puffiness and the dark circles. And like i said it also. It feels great at helping. You have us. If you've attention headache you have justed sinuses or anything. Like that. just feels really good. It does it was very just like calming to take even just to take that moment when you are walking me through and for once i was thankful for my cold hands like refreshing -olutely definitely does help to reduce those are great tips and we've now we've got our eye cream. We know what to do. So let's talk about the next step you do in your facial. Which is. I'm assuming it would be your serum this point. Oh what's your best recommendations for key ingredients for different skin types at the stop. what would you say. I won't say i while. Cnn's are so important. We always say really your most important step in making sure. Especially if you are twenty five or older serum should be part of your game routine and so you are looking for something that does everything look for ingredients light to rick. Tumor is a very popular ingredient. These days because it has so many antioxidant. It's something like four hundred anti-oxidants it reduces inflammation and it's known birds anti-aging benefits to is a really great ingredient. If you're looking for like just overall healthy radiance in if your skin is dry look for ingredients that have the roddick acid serums and moisturizers that have that ingredient will help as well as l. Veira hyper pigmentation is also a really big concern. These as if you have those heskey brown spots or h fahd's look for ingredients. They have vitamin c. or vitamin a. Or have fruit acids from cherries or raspberries. These help to lighten any areas of hyper education. But you always want to buy your voice to riser. It will boost the benefit of your moisturizer. And then your moisturizer were in those results. And i want to share with you guys. There's also really unique application method or serums and moisturizers. So i'll share that with you as well. Tell us again about micro circulation in baddeck drainage so what you'd wanna do is you wanna take whatever you're using doesn't matter whether it's an anti aging whether it's a hydrating or bright need serum and again you want to warm it up between just do the clarence double serum guys so good. What am i favor. It's all my favorites vitamin for the skit. And it's loaded with jewelry. So what you want to you you. You warned this era throughout the entire palm of your hands and now you're gonna place serum with both hands starting from the center face working outwards and then don't forget the neck i mean chat neck is real these days people are now you know they're constantly look down your next in constant motion so you definitely want to make sure you take care of that area. Now you're gonna go back with that firm yet gentle pressure so i'm going to take both hands and allay them flat on the face right around my nose under my eyes with the heel of my mom down around my chin and i'm going to apply firm pressure in the center of the face towards my ears. Then apply that same firm pressure using my fingertips are the center my forehead to my temples this application method again. It's being it's it is right in line with our clarence. Best inch a moving. You know blood flow oxygen. The baddeck drainage. You'll look a the less tired overall making your skin look healthy and you fall so that method with your serums and with your moisturizers. A again though. That whole ain't no lane. No tugging no stretching the skin whatsoever that firm gentle pressure. And i'll give you know. Give you something to think about. It's actually on the base. it's about six counts of pressure which is actually about the weight of two two liter bottles of soda. Oh wow i know that's how hard you should press exact From the center of the pearleen always working out towards your way. You're pushing everything towards the collectors. That are gonna pull those fluids away from the face okay. So it's time for the final step of at home facial and that's all about locking in all of your hard work getting that hydration into the skin. So what should we look for in a good moisturizer and how me and our spa ritual continue. Zen moment keep it going. What are your tips for that. So many tips are find a moisturizer. That suits your texture preference as well as your skin type and sir so you are for example somebody that has a lot of wailing. You wanna stay with moisturizers. That are gels or lotions texture. Some in its billy bite late if you're drier in your skin has itching and tightness that that you can feel. It's uncomfortable statement products. That have a richer. Texture that have ingredients like shea butter that are or cocoa butter. That are rich and creepy. If you're concerned with hyper pigmentation as we said earlier people are concerned with book for a texture. That meets the needs of your skin type. And when it comes to skintight. A lot of people don't know they're tight. I always say if you don't know what your skin type is because you're neither oily or dry. You're probably normal. If you're really you know your skin type is one. If you're dry you usually know your taxes dried. Although there are times that you could have dehydration regardless of what. Your skin type is no. I perceive them a little bit older and have a tendency to be normal to try like to use a crane. obvious reason. Some you know when it'd be fifty. I want anti-aging in my in my daily jane just stick. The moisturizer at address is your primary concern and stick with the moisturizer. That's texture is right for your skin tight because we all know at the end of the day. Nobody's gonna use the ceremony moisturizer. They don't like wait. 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Alisha Got Cheated on and Remi Scaled a Wall

Pretty Basic with Alisha Marie and Remi Cruz

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Alisha Got Cheated on and Remi Scaled a Wall

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Arizona at the Tempe improv so again, go to pretty basic live dot com teacher tickets and more info, and we will see you guys soon. To meet you. Pretty basic. Hello everyone. Welcome back another Wednesday, low everybody. Oh, yeah. Not listening to this on a Wednesday. Then I'll quit you are. You the real MVP because. The notification squad. Ooh, yeah. They are not a vacation squad. Little disclaimer rim feeling really sick today. I like our voices have that like sexy rasp to it. You know? I see that every time I talk someone's like who you sound hot. And I'm like, I feel like I'm like a dying frog. Really? I'm always like, I'm sick. I'm supposed to like rest. I feel like I can't strain it too much. I'm just gonna like not go too hard with his talking like it's going to be this. I can't wait to fast for this episode like twenty minutes when you're like screaming. I'm gonna tell myself before I was like just be chill ram. It's okay. But if you listen to on my God, I sound so children's Zan listen, my insider swear like screaming, but my voice just isn't anyways. Last week. We talked about Remm Chela. Oh my God. You don't have to think them about remedied Remm cello. Ceram cello was I'm so annoying. My birthday party that I had last weekend. I'm officially as we're talking right now. It's Valentine's Day. So I'm twenty four and one week old day times to everyone Valentine single awareness to literally I also in fact, we saw a little bit into our demographics because it's hard on the podcast really get more demographics, then like YouTube Princeton, most of us cows are single. Eight percent of us. I think our singles makes me feel. I think we should just change them. Okay. Before we came up with the name, pretty basic. I totally show. I was like we should call like alone for a refresher alone or like seeing. Unleash it was like no because we're gonna boyfriends were formed in one. You know one day, you know, that's true. That's true. But arriving shell out. So news tackled to my birth. Yeah. Yeah. It was stage. You have a good time. I did I honestly was like wouldn't by so fast. I the whole night ran around asking everybody. Are you having a good time? I know I feel like I saw you like half the time half the time. I like you were just bopping around or whatever. I have. Apparently, I talked to have you talked to everyone. That's why I was like, I know you're just kind of like making the rounds and say hi to everyone. But you every time you talk to me or like is everyone having a good. Yes. Soured. She's like stop asking. I was like I just want everyone to have fun. Apparently like everyone had the best time ever. Well, that's why I could never I can't. I don't see me ever throwing a party that big because I think I would stress so much about people having fun. So I have great time though. I. Night of my life. The best part is. Yeah. I didn't really see leash that much. I saw her after and then I had to sleep over after. But yeah, I one point. I was like the party was almost over. I think we had like maybe twenty minutes left or something. And she just runs up to me. And she's like the specific person that I was really excited to come came. And she just looks. She goes blank is here. And I I apparently was talking to someone and I go oh my God. After my voice, I scream and I run away and aleisha was like the guy who I was talking to she's out. Sorry, lisera ran away and spent the whole rest of the night with that person. I was so excited. Oh my God. Not cello is so much fun. The photo booth was fine. The only thing was it was a little cold towards the end. But surprisingly, I wasn't as cold as I thought I was going to not wearing any clothes. I was totally good. Yeah. It was like on this rooftop by the pool, and it was hold that night. It was like fifty degrees, and we had heat lamps out. Oh, my God is bumble boy is short as we. Everyone. I said that there would be an update. Okay. So a few weeks ago, we were talking about bumble boy will plan. I was convinced that he was not the height that he said, I forget what he okay by me. He was five when he didn't tell me on his dating profile, which was bumble. He's said he was five ten and then Alicia was fully convinced. He's not five ten. Yeah. Because we hung out when he came on my birthday party. So we were gonna we hung out one time. And I remember thinking that, but I wasn't sure because we were on the beach, and sometimes the sand is kind of like, you know, we always. Long story short. I said I would give you an update next time. I see him. I saw him. I gave him a hug, I swear. He didn't remember me. He's like, hey, what's up, and he just like hug like it was feel awkward? Oh, no sorry. Maybe I look different. Or maybe you just got ten times better looking. He didn't recognize you anymore. Thank you. Dr. Anyways, no-one no-one one knew that we're talking about. But like you and I. Whatever anyways. I was a little like, oh rude by swear. He was not. I was wearing tennis shoes. I talk about you all the time. Then he knows who you are. Maybe he was just like uncomfortable. Play Kuku cool like, oh, yeah. All right. Oh, have we met like on? Yeah. I can I'm willing to bet now that he's not five ten. Oh T now. I'll probably talking then I think like five nine. Okay. Okay. If he's five eleven to shore. If you spend six foot, totally fine true. My point being I take it back at well. It's this thing, you know. Everyone's always like I felt like guys lie about their height. Yeah. On dating profiles. Well, maybe I'll bring a meter sticks. The next time we see him pulled or we could just straight up. Ask him. Should I write out salary? Gasol bumble? Boy was there. He seems sweet didn't talk too much again. I was like, oh, you don't remember me fine. He made a lot of friends. Yeah. He looked like he was starving. He was dancing. He was thriving wanna die if he's ever listened to those. He wasn't. I don't I don't think he would I sign saying Moore style me to I could process my love for him. And he would never know. He would never know just make a whole episode of a love letter to him. And it'd be hilarious and send it to. Now. My God like like, David Moyes love. Oh my God. I just watched that the other day heading me room. I I know it was only because I had to. I was like I was forced to just sit on my couch for an hour and a half. So I was like, okay. I guess I'll Channing nothing. My nail. Oh my God. No us and to Neo if you is he's he's single is. He hell I know someone who matched with him on riot. I know our mutual who. Well, they're not talking anymore. I'll tell you later. Oh my God. So he's on riot. Yeah. Me reactivates riot right now anyways. From chela. What else are we talking about? Oh my God our game. We wanna play. Okay. So this week. I thought of something fun. We alternate. Last week was made this time around so game for this week. I thought we would do do you remember back on YouTube like a few years actually long time ago the perfect imperfections tag? Did you know I was going to say that I uploaded it did you I did one a basically his tag where you talked about. I think it was three things that you love about yourself. It wasn't three things. You hate about yourself. It was there things about yourself. Oh, and there was a lot of controversy around that tag, which I see why some people were like, oh my God. I love my smile like like at sound. But I hate my mother and also you're being like, I hate my nose, and then some people it'd be like, we're just fine. So I kinda get why it was kind of controversial. But I liked the overall the overall meaning of it. I'm pretty sure was to show people who think that your perfect to show that you still have insecurity shots, the whole thing about it. Because it's like empowerment of like, I love this. But myself, and this is something that, you know, I don't love as much, but I fully accept that. It's this. So I thought that we could. Share? Maybe like our favorite quality about herself whether that is superficial or an actual. And then your least favorite quality by yourself who wanted to go. I take the stage. Okay. I that I like favor quality by yourself. I I do really like I feel like a lot of things like a love hate relationship coming. I like how I'm really impetus. And I like that I can see a lot of people's sides to things, and I feel like it helps I don't know. I just there's a lot of times where I feel like it can cause stress too. But overall, it is something that I really really like that I have that characteristic. I think it's something really interesting to see the level, of empathy that you have for things because I feel like it's not something that you can teach someone to have. I think it's just naturally instilled in you. Yes. And I never realized how much empathy I had until I've seen people who don't like I thought that was normal for everyone. Yeah. And it makes sense. Now looking back being like, oh like that's just something. I have more of than other people just totally fine, which I think is an empathetic thought to have. But I think that's really cool. Like, I don't know. So yeah. But then there's so many times I hate based on but that it 'cause I can justify anyone's actions, and I'm like, no if they're being that way, I need to. Like, yeah. I feel it to something. You love yourself o k met my turn. Okay. I think I love and this is kind of the same idea where it's so great. But in certain situations, it also it can be a downside is that I care a lot about people. And I feel like I give everybody might all in our relationships. Whether it's like, someone I'm dating or a friendship or whatever may be like, I I do try my best to give him my all. And a lot of times. It does end up with me getting more hurt in the end. But for the times that it works out. I think it's worth that hurt that I felt from other people and to have that that mutual love with people that give it back to me just as much if not even more that's like that's like one of those tumbler quotes where it's like I'd rather love at have nothing at all or something. Like that. You know what I mean? So I told I get it. Yeah. We're both people pleasers too. Yeah. So on top of that. And you're a two on the Graham, which is very late people. We've talked about the any look a little bit on here and people always tweet us about it at hitter. Because if you if you know what it is and. If you're in not world, you are obsessed with it. Yeah. Is when we demo this podcast. We adjust taken it knock in September. We are doing. And we were like obsessed that we did a whole demo. We shouldn't episode. Listen, we should listen we have them. Oh my God. We did the download blog a whole reaction sewed just about our any grams. I'm a two with three in your three with a two, which is really interesting. And basically the two is like you are just always trying to please everybody. And you put everybody else before yourself, and it's a personality test. I could I see how it can kind of sound like astrology and stuff, but it's not it's more of a personality based tooling. He though mine was spa hers. Yeah. So she's a three with the wing of a two and three is your an overachiever. And you're just always working really, really hard. Like, oh my God. This makes me feel so much better about my liars such a three with the two you're such an achiever with a wing of a helper. And I'm such a helper with the wing of an achiever. But it's interesting how it makes sense because even with like, the podcast, even planning it and coming out with it. We were both very three very over cheating and working in bogus. And then there's times rice held both of our twos. Come out. Oh my God. How people in like. Yeah vulnerable. Oh, I did not L. My god. It's time every time. I think about I'm so mind blown also what was a little nerve wracking as what is when you read what your insecurities are to what it says, you know, a threes insecurities. And I was like, oh, my God, you feel you feel attacked like mood. I'm gonna go. Thanks, but no, thanks. It's so true. But that's my my I guess something that I do like about myself. And again, it does bite me in the ass. Sometimes. But it is worth it to me. And I love that about myself because that's another thing. I think that you can't be taught. It's just a natural. You guys we have fab medics as another sponsor. We are obsessed with them. We are fingerling that they keep wanting to work with the I love them. So I always talk about their high waisted powerhold leggings seven eighths links. Are m they're amazing. 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And I'm already feeling doubt about myself and someone does something super successful. It's not that. I am not happy for them. I think I just turn it around on me. And I'm like what why am I not doing something like that? Yeah. We're I just wanna be I am so happy for them. It's not like a oh my God. I'm jealous of you think. It's a I'm so happy for you. But then I take personally, and I'm like what's wrong with me. What can I do better? And I'm like, why can't it just be thinking happy for the person? I've never I know you do that. But I've never thought about it. And and it's it's definitely like a handful of times. But when I'm in the head space. I can so see it, and I feel it and I'm just like dang like it's something. And it's it's part of one of the three. Yeah. It's something with. Three. What can I do batter? It's that feeling of feeling Avowing outta one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I love so deep already I less. I I like I knew you were like that obviously. Because I know you to say it, I I'm interested. I'm impressed that you are able to say that out loud. Oh, no. Yeah. It's definitely like, and that's what I was. I don't want people to take wrong thinking that like I'm never happy for people because it's not the case at all. But I think that's a good way we balance each other. Because you're so just like that like, you are I don't know you're so. Like uplifting to other people and like you would do anything for them. And then there's times where I'm like, oh, I need a tap into that side of me more because I know that there. Yeah. But I think what's funny is seeing that conflict of wanting to be so so so so happy, but then also feeling personally like attack to myself like why like what am I doing wrong? What can I do better? I'm well, you know, what I mean completely. But on the other side to being literal complete opposites where like yin and Yang. There are times where I mean it again, I put everybody else before me. And there are times when you're like, no you need to put all my God. I need to talk about the birthday gift. She got me. I don't cry often. And I like was literally tearing up basically Loesch made the nicest card ever, and basically talked about how I am. I don't like to my own Hornets. They'll wear to talk about but how I I need to put myself I and I need to take care of myself because I take care of everybody else. And she made me this like huge kit of just fifty. Thousand different things to take care of myself. Like, I've been really wanting an apple watch. So she got me one to take care of my health, and she got me, a little Tito's bottles and take care of my soul and just like a bunch of really cute things. And it was so sweet of you on my God. Yeah. Love that for us. It was filmed. It's funny. But I had I had such would make like right in the little cards and say was so thought it was by far the most thoughtful gift I've ever it was so funny you reading the card though, because there I cry when people Christ I was sitting there like tearing up in trying and then every time he'd be like oh. Every sentence. But I know you met every sentence. No you did. And that's what. Hurts the most. I really do want to karaoke session. If we've got Mike's in front of us, don't you have those karaoke things that you ordered? Oh, yes. On a quarter. I brought him to the office. So we can do it to respect we shouldn't. Yeah. Thank god. Have to watch my voice, anyways, something you don't like about yourself. Okay. I think the one thing one biggest like to improve improve. Yeah. I I it's weird because it's something that I'm really proud of. But also, I do know I could work on it is that I am ridiculously independent to the point where it it stresses other people out, I know, and especially like when I've tried to date before it's definitely not gone as well because I just I do everything on my own. But I think it has to do with the fact that first of all, I'm I've self self sufficient, and I have been since I was like eighteen nineteen. So that already taught me to be mature and to take care of myself. And then also, I think I don't know just match. I like doing things on my own. I like something I need to work on for sure is like I've said it before. And like a good way of just like I don't do what I don't want to do. But also, that's like my stubbornness definitely something I need to work on because even something like getting into a relationship one day. I have all my guy friends all the time. Tommy like, you need to like let guys like help you sometimes because I'll be like struggling with like fifty boxes, and they're like, let me help you. And I'm like, no, I'm finally got it. And I'm like falling over there. Like you. It's okay. Like ask for help. And I'm like, no, I got it. Because I think I need that's the three I need the validation of I did for my all my God. So there are so many times like that. So that's on the Anita work on and something I was talking to about my friend the other day, actually. And we wanted to talk about dating a little bit in this episode. And you we talked about our types either day. He's loved I loved that episode. I was actually listening. I was like laughing because I thought it was just funny. Here's here's a joke on Twitter because every single week. I say that it's my new favorite episode. Everyone's like, okay lows. But that's good. We're just getting better and better. I just feel more comfortable every week. But it's something that I I've thought about. Unleash and I had this conversation last night. We're like we need to save it for the podcast. I like sat down. I do this thing where I tell her, and I'm like, I have some whether it's very serious or not I make the moment. Very serious. Like, I have to tell you something. And I like made it very quiet. I sat down I was like you to realize since today's Valentine's Day. I was like you do realize one day one of us is going to have like someone's going to interpretation ship. I and I was like I have this talk with myself the night before alone. I was like it's gonna be her ram. You're gonna be okay. You're going to have to get through this. It's going to be fine. We're so happy for her. But you're going to have to do this alone. I literally I feel like you're going to be in a relationship. I I don't I think everyone thinks, but I feel like someone like God the universe is gonna throw a curveball and you're going to be wiped up, and I'm going to be like. Oh my God. I don't even wanna like literally the other day. We were just telling each other. We're so happy that we're not in relationships. And I think I single people to admit that like that's kind of a lot. It's that was huge for. Are you kidding? Like, my whole life thing. Like, I need to be in a relationship. And I told her the last night. I was like, you know, what it's going to be you I and I'm first of all I'm so happy for you already. That's happened. Mentally, like, there's no one else that deserves it more. By also said I was like, you know, it's going to be you is because God the universe again. Whatever you believe in. I have to cover all the basis when I say that I feel like for you like you obviously you deserve at your so grey. And I want the best for you for me. It's like, you know, it's been twenty four years. What's few more? What's another seven more just tack on there? I feel like I'm chilling. I'm fine. Now, you're chilling. We're happy we are like I texted her the other night. I was just like I just want you to know. I I so long was like I need a boyfriend. I feel like I need a boyfriend are just a date seven hundred just like date any guy on the couch to anybody. But I realized we would not be where we are. If had either of us had a relationship during the time of our peak friendship. So I think that it really happened for a reason, and we also keep saying that you want again to relationship with someone that's gonna make you a better person. And she makes me a better person. It literally quarterly beets. Are we should make a pact? Let's make a pact right now. A kind of power by forty. It will just get married. Club only. We we how many more years. No, no. They'll be they'll be here. They'll be here. They'll be. She's crying. No, no, no. They're five this year. And you'll be forty in thirteen years of they'll be eighteen Shitsu can live till they're like getting on a good for good. Literally cry in credit anything. We're good. Anyways. Okay. Okay. Well, back to my revelation that I had all right? First of all. Yeah. We're in love with each other. We're probably going to get married a leash. But also something that I like worry about is the fact that I'm so independent, and because I have been single for twenty four years, I've grown to be very independent. And so I have a friend who just got into a relationship after being single. I think five years, and so she now is having this struggle of she's with her boyfriend, and she know the boyfriend like wants to do things I'm like just have a normal relationship and she's struggling because she's like I've been single for so long. I don't remember how to be in a relationship on remember how to share my life with someone. That's that's going to be neat. Twenty four years. Like, I don't know how to function with anybody else. Other than daisy. It's a lot. It's I don't like it's gonna be you're right. She she does struggle. Sometimes. Biggles stubborn learn he'll be a learning brat. So we're just not meant to tackle that yet. They'll come into. Exactly, that's why we're still single. I'm still working on being less stubborn alone. But it's gonna be interesting to eventually find someone and is like little things with like only eat here eight here. And you're like, no, I would so be like, no sorry. I'm gonna go by myself. Then that's that's what I would do. Which is so bad. But we'll cross that bridge you've gotten a lot better since like a year ago. But that's only sleep because of you because I'm not even kidding. I was really stubborn this one time like really really really bad like really bad, and she was like ram. I mean, we know you I was being such a brat. She's like, we know you. I mean, this is just how you are. And I was like oh my God. I didn't even realize like that's how I am. Oh, and so you said that since then I've been trying really hard. I have been trying to compromise more. But it's hard for me. You. That makes you you. Anyways thing that was good. I like how our games can be anything from something. They could be any like they're not even a game. Sometimes they're just question conversation. We should have a name for our game. It's time for blink. We'll just throw. So you like stare at mealy aid. REM like, no, okay. We can just. I thought the game idea was so good. I was I thought about a jingle, and then I almost threw out. So I had. I haven't been sick and like over a year and a half. So I feel like it's really hitting me hard. Kevin you can leave all this in. This is great concept baby. To believe that Kevin Biden, do Kevin's our editor. You know, what's crazy? We've been doing this podcast for like four months. And we don't even know Kevin looks like I have no idea how we pulling up a picture right now. I'm gonna go. Thank god. I have an idea in my head. Oh, that's the funniest thing. Ever when you have an idea of someone then they're just completely different opposite, not in a bad way. Different L. My god. I can't wait for this right now. Kevin. It's like having people. Listen, please. This is great. We actually get asked a lot. If we add it the podcast. I was like no Kevin. I'm not gonna I'm so excited. I fully. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna Clausewitz. Let's both open at the same time. Yes. Show his Instagram. I mean, I'm so ready. I need to have a mental image of what I think you haven't thought about it for the past sixteen leak. Really, okay. Tell me when we're ready. I definitely think he's gonna dark hair. I'm nervous. I thought dark hair to don't even know how read he is is I picture like forty one on the left. Dark-haired one of the right? We'll both our care. This kind of like what I pictured only God not for me at all. Oh my God. Kevin. I'm so sorry. You have to listen to us talk so much worse on. Oh my God. Got a little frazzled. Poor. Kevin Kevin knows me. So well now. All right guy. So any follow me on any form of social media? You have seen that I've been posting a lot of baby pictures and old pictures lately. My dad went through garage and found all these old. Larry's videos, and pictures, and it's been the funny thing going back in like walking down memory lane. But watched on us, I'm able to watch the videos because I don't have the camcorder anymore. Okay. Well, I actually I recently converted a lot of my old VHS as and home videos. So now, it's on drives. And I reworked everything it was. Was a cute. It was cute actually use legacy box. And they're one of our sponsors today. And it was seriously. So fun looking at old VHS videos, and it was fun because I got all win the closets. Gather up all the old VHS is and home videos. 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I ever saw anything like that. And I was like that's so funny. I it really just comes down to like who, you know, because I would never think that, but like myself Oprah and Eleanor all querying check all. Apparently occurs. Very philanthropic. And they're just really chill. I mean, I don't know. I I'm not chill. Shoot anything anything? I mean. I'm I I really thought it was a chil- anyways. Okay. I wanna know. What's the dumbest thing you've done for a guy? This is like whether you did something actually stupid like when his attention just like in general, you're like, wow. That was like really stupid of me. I want you to go first. And I'll go me. Okay. Well, I have to I think perfect tied stories that are both, you know, one of them. I don't think you know, the other actually my no the other one. Let's go ready. Should I start with the wall? Or should I start with the other one? I don't know the other one. So the wall the wall on like, okay? If it's the infamous will I know this is just also preface I realized because I was thinking I was like you've doubt from here. I don't think I embarrassed that often. I look very low embarrassment gauge. Yeah, exactly reminds really high exactly balance by some guys there are so many times she'll like do something something recently this past weekend. Oh, this so many things. I'm like, are you sure you wanna do that? I'm just like. I'm like, are you sure I would never. She was also correct in this. Most times. Yeah, she is. But you live life a little more. Sometimes you gotta live a little live love laugh life anyways. So this story, I I would put it if I had, you know, normal embarrassment gauge pretty pretty high up there. I would be mortified I'm not bothered by at all. And I didn't even find it embarrassing. I saw her the morning that it happened. And I told her. Like. I don't think I was even laughing I'm more. So I was just like this happened. Just because your morning, I was like well this happen. And you're like, oh my God. And I was like what? And she's like, that's the most embarrassing thing. I've ever heard. I was like, oh, should I be embarrassed? I thought it was like a normal Tuesday. Anyways. Basically, I was seeing this guy for a while. And I was like so into him. And you know, when you're like so into someone you don't wanna do anything that could possibly like mess it up at all. And so I was at his house. And then I we were going to train that morning. This was only the first and this is so long ago, the first one that was a ruby rose. This is like a year ago. Maybe and so I I have to I spent the night and I woke up, and we were training at like seven in we and this guy live far so too. I like four five I woke up so early and I woke up, and I like changed, and I think I was about to leave at a town the next day. I think we were going on a trip all my God bet we were going on that New York trip. No way on my all the listeners now. No. I think it was the New York trip. I think it I think it was if you think about the time line of like post, Coachella and then New York. Okay. So we are about to. I think I was about to leave. And so I woke up extra early because I was gonna go meet leash at the gym. And then I changed. I remember thinking like I'm going to be so nice. I'm not gonna wake them up. I'm gonna be like wifey goals. Not be like not disturb. Anyone? I get up. It's like pitch black at the lights on put my clothes on to like for the gym. And then I leave. Oh, no such a good story. So I leave no pot. I leave the house. So how does houses laid out he is two roommates? So how is has laid out like a square, and then if you walk in the door, it's like a long hallway, and then there's three rooms there's two on the left and one on the right and his room was back left room. And so I like close the door and being so quiet. So considerate of me. And I walk out the door, and I remember like the front door. I wasn't sure if I should lock it or not. But I was like, oh, I'm gonna be considered again. I'm gonna lock the door. Just like everybody safe. It's good. So I like a little like knobby. So you I would make sure everyone's okay, making sure nothing's going to happen. And then 'cause you know, if anything happens, and it's on me too. It's my fault. Like, let's say someone broken in the house, they're like who left the door unlocked. Then he really would. Open the door, and I like it closed. I remember, I lock it. And I get my car, and I was like okay perfect on time. You got this ram? You're gonna kill it a good day. And I like pull out my phone elect- try to pull up my phone to look at the time arts directions, actually because I'm the most directionally challenged person ever like you wouldn't have been able to drive. I wouldn't have been able to go down to I would have driven like into someone's house. I'm so bad at directions. So I like go to my phone. I'm like, oh my God. And I realize I left my phone in his room on the whole time. It's like maybe five. And so I'm like, oh my God. I remember sitting there like what do I do on us navy? I can get into the making at home without my phone. But then I realized we're going out of town the next morning, I need. I would have just left it and got it later in a widened. But we were leaving maybe leaving that day because I feel like I could have left it at night. I don't know why. But either way I had to get it back for some reason. I could have I could've found the freeway or I could have just like gone to a gas Asian call him like if it was that bad. I would or would have done that some say I like talking about it. I remember exactly where I was like what can we do? We do like I I could go to the front door and bang on the door. But then his roommates will make up and then the roommates will hate me. And then I'll lose every chance at this goes through every girls had I feel like every possibility I would've thought of a million different scenario. Yeah. Oh my God. Wait now. I remember I'm sorry to backtrack story. I wasn't in my gym clothes. I had I had to go home. That's why left so early. I was wearing a skirt and not even a crop top. You know, those like tops that have the ties in the middle. A not top you guys. I have huge boobs. One wrong move. One of those and it's a complete three for all. So I was like trying to keep it all in freaking out. I can't go to the front door. So I get the car, and I like walk my way around. I think he lived in a duplex to a duplex. When it's like two stories, but they're only on one story kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. So he lived in a duplex. But they're on the first floor. So thank God. Oh my God. I wouldn't have been able to picture like a second floor. No. The first store I floor. Oh, wow. Okay. So much of this whole bushel interesting now. So I go to the front of the house, and I'm looking and I'm like, all right? What are my options are my options? And so I like basically on the side of the house. You know, how there's like walls in between houses, obviously, it's meighbourhood. It was like acute neighborhood. I like see that. There is there's a cement wall on the side of his house and a first of all there's a gate on the side and the gate leads to the basically there are two rooms on the left hand side. So like, the first room was his roommate, and then the backroom was him. So the front room window was exposed. So he's in the back. He's back into it. Literally his back window is in between the two gates try to unlock the first gay and literally the first Renault is like before the gate, so if he had lived in that front room, I would have been golden would have been fine, but a bust emission. So I try to unlock the gate can't do that. And so I'm trying to figure out what I can do. And then I look, and I see this concrete wall. And I see there's like, basically it's like like a three foot. First, and then a jumps up to like a twelve foot wall. After that. I'm not even making up twelve feet. I think it lose maybe ten ten to twelve. We know you're though, so. Yeah. The. So I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. It was ten feet high. God. So basically, it's like six my agile at six four. Hello nice to meet you. So I get up on like the little wall. So I can't get over. I can't open the gate. So I was like, okay. Like, the only way I can get to the window. And basically my game plan was to get his windows a bang on his only way him up without waking up the roommates because they didn't want his roommates. And like, he he he'll get over it. So I make my way up on little three football thing. And then I jump onto the gate which then climb up and sit myself onto the cement wall. Also. So now, I'm like ten twelve feet up in the air just sitting on this like fence like the cement cement one. Yeah. And which is maybe like a foot diameter. So I don't have much room also side. No, I am terrified of heights hair afraid of heights as well as an assault in a skirt and a wrap top. And so I'm like sitting there, and I was like I could stand in walk. But I like. So if I I'm not getting fell over I would have cracked my head open. I'm not trading. So then I start any no like cement ever like the drywall poking little dots. So my was hurting. And so I'm like literally like lifting myself up and scooting myself twenty five feet, please tell me they have security cameras. My god. I never asked. Can we go for that far back if we were to contact? Yeah. No. I think. A few months testing it. Have logged I should've loved nobody. He's my phone. My phone. So I'm scooting myself down literally twenty five inch by inch by inch by Finally, I make it my all the way down to his window. And I have to somehow get off the wall. I don't remember. I think I must have blacked out. I don't know if I like the other fence and jump down or if I like just down, but I made it scrape up like you're near anything. Now, I made it out alive with. No. And then oh my God. I didn't even mention what shoes actually maybe this helped me out. I was wearing my platform shoes to the like the flat platform heels. That helped me a little bit probably gave me a few inches. So I jumped down whether I jumped off the fence on the other side or I just jumped on I don't remember. And I go up to the window. And I look and he's just like sleeping soundly eighty. The window when Don thanks for being right out of the coach was on hotel. And I'm banging is just like watch him like look terrified, and I felt so bad. And what else are you gonna do? I need in my phone. So I like he like wakes he like. Sits up so fast looks over at the obviously like half asleep still and I'm just like sitting there smiling. I was like hi, I wanna know what he was thinking in that moment. Probably thought I was gonna kill him or something and over probably we so confused be so triggered. Yeah. I'd be so that would tear. I know I feel really bad actually have nightmares. Veasley saying, I'm really sorry. I didn't scare you. And then he came over to the window and was like, what are you doing? And I was like can you get my phone? It's on the other side of the bed was like what I was like. Okay. And then then I scaled up the other side of the fence just walked through the house as I couldn't. There's no way you couldn't cross window. I didn't think about that. Maybe the window. Could I don't know? I didn't I got that. I'm. My way back down got my phone, and then I left and then I saw you at the gym. How was your morning? Oh, I forgot my phone. So I had to like scale a wall. And then get it. I'm sorry. What else like anyways? So deadly. My guy that I'm not embarrassed by that. I just think that is a really die would've been humiliated. Literally fun. I thought it was funny. She's still I'm still fine. That's a great story. Sit amazing story. That's like a movie moment. It's a movie moment. Like, I could see that whole that that could be a scene. God. If I watched a movie I'd be like, oh, that's so sucky for you girl. Now, we're all living. We're my God. Okay. We love our glass cosmetic. I'm obsessed actually cleaned out. All my makeup joy yesterday. And I'm devoting a whole just two our glass stuff because I love it that much actually so much theirself recently came out the caution extremely Shabazz GRA. It's honestly groundbreaking. I'm obsessed with it. I love it. Because it never smudging. Just I have the worst issues with smuggling and mascara and this one is incredible. I also love that is completely vegan. And they're very open about that. 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We're gonna say. Taking him back after being cheated on. I. I told you I wouldn't scream. I didn't know. I've done for God. I didn't know we were going. No, no, hold on. Let me I didn't know we were going there. I got laid outgrow for this to everybody who was wondering in your video where reacted. Okay. Yes. And I go into this. I went to just out. Everybody asked. Well, any the video where I reacted to your ex boyfriend tag. We did have on her channel right acted reacted to it. I said I was like oh my God. It's so weird like knowing everything that all so many comments were like, oh my God ram. Spill the teeth -bility said t obviously I wasn't going to fill it. I live go. Sorry faces so high. No. Yeah. You're like, oh, we should talk about stoop. Dumbest things we've ever done for a guy. And I was like, honestly, I can't think of too much. I don't like scale walls and stuff because I would be mortified at that thought. And then literally like that just popped into my head knows. We're going with it. I love that. You're talking about it. Do you wanna do you wanna go into it or we like leaving there? No. I mean, that's why I was like this come conversation 'cause there's not much of a story to rally like, I mean, whatever. But yeah, I was just like y'all at Lisa like, dear Greg doing it. Kind of really. Yeah. I mean. I'm trying to think if that were to have any right now what I would say if you know what I mean, it's one of those situations where it's like. I think. This is a conversation. I. I think that if it were to happen to you right now. I would I would fully let you do whatever you want to do because I do believe that everyone needs to do their own thing. And whether I tell you to or not you're going to do it. So I feel like I would just let you, but I would be very open about my feelings, and I would not be nice to him. That's for sure I'd probably send him some pretty tower main. When you're you're your mighty. Fine need to and I wouldn't be I would not be nice to him at all. But I will let you do it. But also make it very aware that I was not supportive of the decision. But I'm support of view. I think that is something we're looking back. Like, I can see how could have grown a lot of being like, no, I deserve better. But the not doing that lay needed. Let me you name me completely. I think I think you needed to do it. And you wouldn't be here. If you didn't do it how how did your friends react back in the day? When you did it. Everyone was like he was such a good guy who messed up, and I know that's like a terrible thing. I remember being like, oh, okay. And like, I don't know. Like, I think I think I say excuse is also I think I downplayed it so much also because of that like like, I don't know down pleaded alive really looking back like even like a year or two later. I was just like the head. I think it's because you had feelings when it was happening. So that like totally distorts I think it's kind of like an ego thing of acting like kinda don't care. Man. I was like whatever like. I should care. The good guy thinks throws me for such a loop. I'm not at Ted Bundy anyway shape, before my I'm not I'm not I'm sure your guy was is still great guy. I just watched the Ted Bundy movie when I went to Sundance, and the I didn't know much about him too. Points. It's the one where Zaka Ron plays Ted Bundy. And there's a lot of controversy around it because they really romanticized him. They share more so about like his personal life showing that serial killers do have obviously personalized and like the history was really interesting. But at the whole movie, I was like, I have no remorse for him over. He's a disgusting person. And at the end, though, I won't give away the movie, but also it's you know, we all know how fast password thirty seconds of I really not giving away. But at the end, he literally says, he looks someone straight in the eyes. And goes, I'm a good guy. I'm a gun. I was like. This is just allusion. All now, this point get so many something we've kind of talked about a little bit before. And I think it's so interesting because you know, everyone says like oh just be a good person in life, and that's your goal. But like there's very few people. Who'd be like. Yeah. I'm not a good person. Like, everyone for the most part thinks they're good person. Even when they Chee or even when they like murders. Like, yeah. It's like it's it's kind of like my like, it messes. But also like watching that movie. I was like what the heck I was. So like, no, you're not a good guy. Also being pathetic. I a Keates truly so mentally ill that he fully convinced himself that he still is a good person. Even though he did all these things. So I was like so shook between the two different movies do that. Because there's so many movies, even like even a movie such as breaking or show like breaking bad, or you know, where you're rooting for the villain. Yeah. You don't watch much movies, but people listening, I know you. Yeah. I had. No, you're rooting for them to run from the cops. And like that you're rooting for the it's so interesting how you realize it's just like, I don't it's crazy. I was not comparing her Ted Bundy. Anyway, a formless Famer just reiterate that but there's been so many guys are like I'm a good guy to me after they've done like really crappy stuff crop it yet. But I believe they are good guy until you get out of it. And you're like, oh and Galway was actually such a dick move. I forget if I've talked about this before. But this is something that I heard this, quote or analogy or term or whatever, quote, I think whatever forever ago, and it really stuck with me. And it was saying how you judge others off their actions, but people judge themselves off their intentions. Oh is that not like chills worthy because if you too I don't know if you were example, I'm thinking of it in a sense of for me. There have been times where all on up to it. I did something bad and I heard. Friend. But I know my intentions weren't to hurt them. So I don't even recognize it. I'm hurting them because I'm like, no, no. That's what I meant. But they're like will you hurt me? And it to finally be like, oh, well, even that's what I intended to do it happened. Yeah. So it makes it literally makes so much sense. To me. It's actually helps a lot of scenarios too. Because I understand how someone can truly only see their side of Noel that was my intention. They see their intentions at they can justify actions that way at the same way that I do. I'm like, oh, I didn't mean it that way, you know, my character. But then in black and white by the end of the day. Did something happen where I hurt someone's feelings. Probably that has helped me so much so true crazy. Wow. I feel like we really went and a full circle with that. Yeah. Being empathetic and justify people's actions. Why didn't even mean to we started off? Oh my God. I love. Well. So yeah, that was one of the dumbest things I've done that was funny anyways that was deep though. I know I wasn't. I wasn't that was that was so much better than me scaling. I was in the shower. And I was like sure I love that. I want to hear your last one because he said yet another one. Okay, this one it's not it's cringe-worthy. I thought it was funny, and it's actually about bubble. Boy. Oh, I do like, you know, this I close friends just came out on Instagram. Also, let me preface by saying I am notorious for once a guy like outta my life. I like block I do the on block thing on block thing. But I'd like to lead their number. I on vol off people do about that. Can I say that way if you block someone and then unblock them it makes both of you stop following each other talking about their phone number? But yet oh talking about Instagram. So I'm I'm assuming most people do that. But I feel like there's some people who have no idea. So if you ever wanted to be like, oh, my God incident must have been followed us. We did that to him. I forgot I did that I was thinking about that totally go. Well, yeah, you can do that. And if you need a little, you know, excuse just blaming algorithms L your. I wasn't talking to him anymore. But then I like we started talking a little bit no-no. Okay. So this guy in particular, we like how to thing. And then we just stop talking because I stopped. I kinda ghosted which I've talked about a little bit in the past. But anyways, then we started reform each other again, but I didn't like text him, and it was just all through Instagram. And then I started a close friend list on Instagram, which is like when you can basically Instagram launched this new thing where you can basically like put your stories just for like close friends to walk. So for us at first, I just did just people that I know in real life people whether I've met because I'm not posting absurd things on there. It's just like, oh like, I just want people like that. I actually know to see whether it's person that I you know, an fronts with or whatever also being influenced one of the small downside. Sometimes is a lot of people are like, oh, you don't you can't see who sees your story. And we're like, no genuinely can't really see so close friends another nice. Just to be able to see which of your actual friends in real life. Can see your story. Exactly. Or I like to like if I'm working on a project for stuff, I love most on there. So like, my close friends can see what I'm doing if I'm not allowed to share yet people you trust. Exactly. So I I won't put I had the list going who are people that. I just like, oh like, no them in real life. So I'm gonna just do this. And so like literally like normal instrument for someone who's not an influence. I feel like that's what it was. So this is around the time of our big bear trip. We went to big bear. And we drove back from. I think when I went skiing one day, and we came back, and I had a text from a random number. I was posting close friends of skiing and stuff like in the sound like falling. It was funny. And then I got a text from a random number that just said, oh, like, I'm really honored to be on your close friends. Well, okay. So you're you're out. So I got a random number text. And I was like what is this? And so then I go through my close friends, and at this point, then I got like see who viewed it, and I go through who've you'd it, and it's like twenty people as of now, and it was like eighteen people that I know like my best friends. And then there was this one girl. Was a girl that we met through our friend, Murph. And she's really sweet Rachel. She's really really sweet. And I put her on there because I really liked her. And it was her and it was bumble boy. But I don't have Rachel's phone number. So I was like it could be a bummer boy or it could be Rachel. And so do you remember God of the car? And I was like oh my God. And I got him. I don't remember hearing that you have that text by never we never talked about it again. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I was like who could it be? So I was like it's literally fifty fifty as as of now, I know I have eighteen other people's phone numbers. I don't have these two. So then we started chatting, and I I didn't want to ask because I didn't want to be rude. We'll also you don't want to get it wrong. Like get actually. Oh, raw guy wants grill. You don't want to say the wrong one guy that I like how to fling with and one is a girl that I talked to like. I really like this. She's cool. So I was just like carrying the conversation. They're like, oh, we should meet up. Okay. So we get back from and we make plans to heart. You had no idea which one. Like a month ago? Why haven't I heard about this? And so to the bar, and I was like, I think I really cut this one in on my own. I was just like I'm gonna deal with this. I forgot it. I never told you so I like the bar park outside. And I was like all right. This is a fifty fifty chance I could walk in. And it's going to be Rachel or it's gonna be bumbled. I. And then the door opens late going on. I'm running late. Sorry. Please. Don't they're like, oh, I don't hate you. And I was like, oh, okay. Still don't not like anybody could say that. And so like park the car, and I'm like here, we go and like walk in and I like looker out, and it's like this like dive bar kind of thing. And I was like, I don't know. And I'm like looking around look around. And then I see him at the. Me being the I walked up. I was chill dude. What's up, and then I had to tell you something funny. I didn't know if it was going to be your girl to max. I loved it. And then I told him I deleted his number. So then I put his name and Mike phone and now, it's an iphone. I totally understand the deleting the number because it's like, okay, gone. But I feel like there's always situations that come up later where you almost wish you had the number still. So usually like leave that I mean, that's smart anyways that will die. Never told me that funny though. Right. That's hilarious. He loved it too. It's all good the other day. He made a joke of somebody's listening summer was right before Christmas. 'cause he was like I'll see. I'm sorry is having our third fight. Oh my God. Anyways, dang. Well. This is a fun episode. I love tweet us some dumb things you've done for guys or girls. Oh, yes. And then also, please let us know any other specific topics Festa talk about because we'd love to share more only. 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Dancing with the Stars and Physical Therapys Role on the Show

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Dancing with the Stars and Physical Therapys Role on the Show

"The move forward radio is brought to you by choose. PTA Dot Com the official Consumer Sumer Information website of the American Physical Therapy Association. Find a physical therapist near you at choose. PT Dot Com Welcome to move forward radio. I'm Eric Reese since two thousand five. America has been enthralled by dancing with the stars the popular TV show pairs professional title dancers with celebrities. Who may have little or no ballroom? Dancing experience and whose ages and fitness levels vary widely shaping amateurs into viable contenders for the famed mirror. Ball trophy is an easy backstage glimpses at the stars. Frustrations and injuries attest to that. But the knowledge and skills of those both in front of the cameras and behind the scenes go along way toward preparing the celebrities for their close ups minimizing the risk for injury and treating their aches and pains along the way vouch. Murkowski has been very much in front of the cameras since joining dancing with the stars in twenty eleven on the heels of story dancing career that includes many. US ballroom titles in two World Championships in this episode he shares everything from the story of his dancing routes to the keys to proper preparation and the reasons he thinks everyone everyone should dance. He also described what he calls his superpower genome and Chela has worked mostly behind the scenes as the fiscal therapist dancing with the stars since two thousand thirteen eighteen. She talks with us about the challenges and keys to keeping. Every dancer is safe in limber as possible while noting that highly individualized care is something every physical therapist schooled and trained to provide gene also discusses using the shows high profile to generate awareness of. What physical therapy really is? And she encourages everybody to optimize demise their movement with the help of a p t what makes dancing with the stars so popular and why do valid genus so value their involvement with the show. They talk about that too. Here's our conversation so let's start by introducing both of you to our listeners. Although I hope you want my my not gina that that's als probably just a little bit better known than you are to To the people who listen to this Are Listening to this podcast. Given the fact that he's been seen by millions of viewers every week on the TV but just just a little bit perhaps so so ovau. I wanted to start with you. You you were born in Ukraine and your family moved to the United States in Nineteen ninety-four You earned fourteen. US National Latin ballroom championship title. Champion titles and and you'd also won two world championships before you ever join dancing with the stars so I wanted to start off just by asking you. Where did your love of dance dance? Come From and how far back does it go full first of all. Thank you for having me. So you know. He's Gina is incredibly famous from where I'm around wherever ARAGO. Everyone talked about g all the time. So yeah I grew up competing in ballroom dancing. I think that's really important. To know is my relationship with dances because always been of athletes to his craft. And I don't you know I'm sure a lot of athletes Look at their sport as as a creative source for their reflection as well so it's not just athletics and creativity are they can coincide and so for me you know dancing was first I sport. That's how I fell in love. I fell in love with that idea that I challenge my body I could I could you know grow and I could. You know compete. I think competition was a big part of my relationship with dance until later on in my life where I actually appreciated the artistry Later on in my life when I started teaching and You know teaching adults honestly until dancing with the stars. Dancing with the stars changed my relationship with and from the sense that I really appreciated the Creativity that that was behind non just lettuce as a matter of fact a lot of times you have you have to compromise it. Let us says I'm on there some of the stars because because you're working with you know regular people yes celebrities but ultimately a lot of times physically. Just you know regular regular folks you know. That's why genus such a pivotal. The middle part of our show is that Dan is a combination of lettuces and creativity. How young were you when you started dancing and did it have to do with With to your brother Maxwell Oh of course is also on the show and it has been on the show and and much pre debut on the show as a matter of fact it had to do a lot with him. Oh Yeah my brother and I are very close close. It doesn't look like it but she's six years older than me did he. Say It doesn't look like it what you says. It doesn't look like it. I say it doesn't doesn't sound like it. He definitely has been. I don't know there's an older sibling is better than he has been to me. You know and I'm very. I'm grateful that him and I got to grow up together. Yes he paved the way for me in a lot of ways and I probably would not have danced if it wasn't for him. My parents signed him up when he was five one still in the in the Ukraine and they signed him up as part of an after school activity that towards young boys etiquette and chivalry the boys and girls and Part of that curriculum was a little more on dancing and the teacher who taught the ballroom class. There is a lot of potential and told my parents they should sign up for this and they did an pretty much the rest of history for him when we moved to America. No they've found dance classes from Max you know. Time is limited resources are limited. So obviously you know. They're kind of like what he's going to dance. We don't have a babysitter for you. Obviously we both at work go. Go go to dance with him and I was like I and then you know. I've already saw him do it. I excelled. She taught me everything. You know. The reason why I was able to really accelerate in the in the beginning parts of my career was because I had a free teacher coach more than Ah Brother Bill is obvious. Unconditional love but also a passion. That very rare. You know he'd put into me. And so I was able to excel in the beginning of that probably also fed the fire that I had to continue to do it. So yeah I I am where I am in an enormous part of that is to my brother. And that's that's pretty rare to between brothers to to that extent I mean are you do you. Do you feel like you're both conscious of how rare that is. Yeah I I think I think we're both very You know sometimes we everybody kind of live gets the best of them and and you know that perspective gets lost but we you remind ourselves of that always and obviously that's a reflection of the career choices that we we've made you know he was a he. He is a superstar in his own right for a long time before entering the team. You know and so I had to work really hard to get his level when it comes to Hollywood And the show and and then when we you know he didn't have to wait around and And and I mean I say that loosely. No one was waiting around but you know right right now. We have we tour together. You know we we two fifty city American tours will tour together. We have an incredible dance video together together. Though you know there were partners and the form of dance with me which fifteen locations countrywide you know. It's a business that promotes dance and health breath and not just physical health but the the mental and emotional value that Dan's brings a person's life how to balance that out on help people you know Oh from that and this is something we do together and you know in personal like his pain is my pain right. I mean we're on you know I. I am my brother's keeper. And so you know it's a beautiful thing to be able to do what I love but to also do it alongside someone that I love so dearly and respect. It's really really great and and I'm GonNa ask you more about a dance with me later on but but but first of all Gina. I wanted to ask Wanted to talk a little bit about you. You've been a licensed physical therapist since two thousand four and became a board certified orthopedic specialist in Two Thousand Ten. You've taught as an adjunct professor you've served as a certified clinical instructor to fiscal Therapist student interns earns. You've worked with a wide variety of patients from pediatric to geriatric but presumably you didn't graduate from. PT School with the goal of becoming the PT to an array of professional dancers and and celebrity non dancers on prime time TV show. So so how was it that you do. You got your start kind of work. Yeah well that's that that is true. I did not have any idea that I would be here. fifteen years ago And to your point I did. I treated a lot of wide variety of patients All the way from little kids too. I think my oldest was one hundred hundred one something like that. So I've seen almost everybody uh-huh and right before I came onto the stars I was working A lot with Some professional athletes With The Los Angeles Kings Hockey team here and uh-huh players in the cage which is a Russian Hockey League And I had a colleague who I will give a shout out to and hopefully she'll listen to this podcast when it airs Cynthia reader who is a great and if anyone is in the Chicago area then they should go see syntax. She's fabulous but since he was working with the production of Skating with the stars and dancing with the stars and she came to me and asked me if I would help her out if ever she needed it for coverage and you know anything like that and of course I agreed and and the time came where she needed my help and I covered for her and long story short. I basically took over for Cynthia in two thousand thirteen is when I joined the show and I think that was season season sixteen. I WANNA say and at that time. It was just a few hours on Monday. which is our show day? You know I came in for. I think a few hours Monday mornings and then they came to me and said Oh. Can you stay a little longer. Oh can you stay through the show and you stay after the show. Can you come down rehearsal days. Can you come during the week and you can call during the week so it has progressed us from a few hours on Mondays all the way to. I won't say completely fulltime but it is a large majority of of the weeks when the season is going and Now it's season twenty eight. So what does that. I've been looking for twelve seasons and it kind of opened up avenue to this to this niche that I found in the performing forming arts. And it's parlayed itself into me working on A lot of other productions locally here in Los Angeles and on the tourists that are associated. It was answering with the stars and Maxwell's tours. Hey it's hard cities every tonight. I mean again a lot of these actually that we get to enjoy our our sustained because of Gina. There's a lot of pain. It's really hard when you're in pain. So they make it look they make it look credibly easy and I know for a fact act firsthand but it is not easy for them and so I saw a need and I kind of created this little niche for at least myself. I don't don't really know a lot of other teas that do what I do at the moment. But but yeah like I said I was working with professional athletes before and I really enjoy it and the answers are professional athletes and their lettuce. ISM is is incredible. The things that they can put their bodies through the things that they endure putting their bodies through is is a lot. And and it's mindblowing. Time because I know personally I could never do half of the things I do. Well let me ask you another question. Do you dance. I danced a little a bit when I was younger. Yes but nothing to drew level of of what. I'm working with now for sure but I have. I have some experience in a variety of different sports and dance was a little bit of it for sure but never to this level. Well The foul I understand that gene has has worked with you on on various things over the years hamstring hamstring pulls lower back strain shoulder tendinitis just to name a few things. You alluded to this earlier but can you talk a little bit about the physical demands on you as an athlete and a professional dancer and the types of things you do to prepare. Protect yourself your body as best you can. There's a lot. There's I mean it's a full body workout. Every single time and there's a lot of listing as well because his partner work some of how it relates to the body I can sense pain and census comfort and and like I said at this point when I can kind of diagnose it because I have a great teacher. You know doesn't just take care of it there but they don't just take care someone they always try to teach you along the way where you you can do to prevent us injury so in that sense yes I'm very well versed but again it's I I need someone like gene to go through to tell me. Hey you know you need. It's a stretch this muscle to be able to release the payment attention this one but you know I try to stretch and try to say I can even well non-performing performing when I'm not dancing playing basketball. I'm working out. I'm running so just keep an active body and in terms of recovery. I try my best to foods. Do this stretches and madman thing and the heating and you know the things that I guess. So that I've been taught now to do to be able to keep my body of depart art excelling new reform well Gina Vow alluded earlier to the fact And of course everybody who's ever watched the show hostess. I mean there. There's a wide variety of of ability levels on the show you've professional dancers. You have celebrities who may have danced some. You have celebrities who have never danced. You have celebrities from various Arias walks of life and in various reasons that they're famous many of which have nothing to do with fitness. So talk a little bit about how you negotiate all that and how you look out for and provide provide physical therapy to such a vast array of people and Guard against the issues that they all might Entail during the course of the season is that you know in in physical therapy school and even out in the workforce ones. We're finally out working. We're trained to treat a variety of different types of bodies and backgrounds inabilities. And everything else. So I would say that I kind of look to my education and my training to be able to assess where somebody is where they're coming from what they need and and kind of go from there I think the challenge lies in the fact that the environment is not a typical clinic or hospital setting that people probably think of when when they think of physical therapy and therefore. I don't have an hour with my patient when they come in to see me to assess and treat and do all all the things that I typically typically would have the luxury of doing and the clinic Sometimes at the most I have twenty minutes and so that's kind of where the challenge lies is to be able to assess the background and the physical ability that someone's coming to me with the problem that they're having and to be able to treat it efficiently and and effectively because the on that we're trained to make a difference and I think that somewhere along the line. PT School one of my professors taught us. You need to make a difference. We need to make a change. No matter what's going on. You need to make a change in their symptoms and that has stuck with me for my whole career and making that change and improving proving someone symptoms when they come to me when they only have twenty minutes or however long it might be. Maybe it's you know give or take but Is really important not only to get them back out to rehearsal or to the show to alive shoot of XYZ but it also helps develop a report with me and allows them to trust me so they know that they can come to me when they have an injury when they have a problem when they have a concern and that able to treat it because the show is is very busy. They're getting pulled and all these different directions as the celebrities or even as a professional dancers and they need to be able to have someone that they trust. That's GonNa make a difference but they can you can see that's associated with this show And that that will definitely be able to help them compete and kind of go through that journey with them to your point despite the different backgrounds that people have I draw a lot on my education and my training in my experience with all the different patients that I've seen to lend itself to being able to you. See All these different types of people and and all the different types of issues that they're coming to me with in a short time because collectively different in each of those little allotments of time Jeanette is. There's some kind of baseline physical instruction that basically everybody who's who comes on on the show gets is is there. Is there some. What I'm saying is is there some kind of like standard Instruction that everybody gets to make sure that everybody is sort of taking the same precautions in his sort of on the same page. You know I'd love to say yes that it's this uniform instruction across the board but it typically is not involved l.. Might be able to answer this because he might have a different experience with that. It's not it's it comes individually from me when people it's not you know a global I mean it's it's paraphrase now from us right but but individually you know I mean obviously okay. I understand now they experienced in my own non just my own experience but also experience on the show and other celebrity partners. I see what kind kind of you know. Physical Strain and challenges. They go through an evolution as well. Their bodies changing rapidly. And so you know the fact did the take care of their bodies outside of just the five hours we we interact themselves. You know I try to encourage I got had you know episode bath. I try to you know like Costa warm ups almost every rehearsal unfortunately a lot of times under so much stress and and like time crunch data lines that we don't even have we gotta teach them a routine and a couple of hours the last thing we want alligators and other twenty minutes to on like a stretch. A warm-up sorry Gina Point but you know they understand for so that we understand the importance of that and we try to communicate that to talk to. I'm GonNa again just like Garcia genus. Celebrity vary embody types and eighty. She had abilities and the kind of lifestyle that was was. Oh you know live and so yeah. It's not not all rules. Apply to all so to speak it. Oh yeah that's kind of make your approach to them Dan ultimately it's up to them to execute as well. You know someone. These are adults. You're not telling kids. How would they need to do it? You're suggesting things to adults to make them successful whether you're taking those suggestions not sure I've I was GONNA say earlier. You know gene and his job. I'm so I present you know. I'm very very strenuous coach. I like my relationship with dance a lot of their words. They don't WanNA flooding approach so I really challenged my partner no matter what as there to really push this themselves physically unfortunately that after two months later on in the season It's almost like on the dot right. It's like semi finals around semifinals finals. There's like a rib this comfort Because of you know right I could tell you better diagnosis on what that is comforted. Then there you know what are some of the partner you know. I even this season you know had Christie. Brinkley fell and broke her arm on like the most most innocent of scenario. Obviously that was an irregular thing. But do you not a lot of things and would the beautiful thing his for a long time and this and this shit. It's more about suppressing the pain rather than getting rid of the reason. Why the pain is there in the first place? Because it's Hollywood. You know it's showtime. Oh time get it. You know it's kind of like a pro athletes to in the heat of the game you gotTa do deliver and then you put your health decides to do so and You you know it's good though we have someone on said there's going to be the voice of reason that and kind of over Libya situation and say hey this is not worth it or these are the consequences are look get out. It's interesting you say that I was just thinking while you were saying that a gene. You know you're a physical therapist and I imagine there must be times when you realize that the show must go on and all that. But you're thinking like Oh you know from my where my physical therapy hat I would. I would like things to be maybe run a little bit differently or or or what have you do. Do you have those moments from time to time from time to time for sure. I think there's only been a couple of times. I think maybe even just one time in my run with the show that somebody's definitely had to withdraw because of my suggestion. There's obviously you know vowed just mentioned Christie Brinkley. Broker broker writer. She obviously withdrew right in her own volition. Not Because of me. There's definitely things that are dealbreakers that I if I was approached. What about them? I would have said No. You can't do that. But for the most part I would say I do my best to keep people in it as much as I can and if I can't I don't think it's the best idea I will give my opinion. And then it's up to their discretion to make that choice. It's very rare that when somebody comes that far even if it's just a couple of weeks it's very rare that any celebrity contestants say Okay I. I don't WanNa do this anymore. Because that's how much they are on their own or if that's how infectious this show is to them. Think like oh I've got you know I want. I want to be part of this and I want to do this. I can't say that we've had many people that have withdrawn because they've decided it's just not worth it so then it's my job to make sure that it stays worth it. And then they can do it as best as they can safely as they can without injuring themselves anymore. And I think we've done a pretty decent job of that definitely. I'm sure that there are things that people deal with after show is over and you know they kind of limp home and say okay. Thank God that's over. Now I can you know tend to my wounds kind of thing For the most part people have people stayed all in one piece Well I mean again. This is a pretty big deal and once once somebody said you know I'm going to be on dancing with the stars. I think the last thing they probably want to do is only be there for a week or two. The heavy people say. Hey where where are you going to be on dancing with the stars and I missed it. Yeah exactly a quick break to encourage you to move physical activity that is associated with a reduced risk of chronic disease not to mention improve bone health cognitive function way control and overall quality of life simply simply put more movement is the gateway to better health need some help too. Going physical therapists are movement. Experts use exercise hands on care and patient education to help you meet your goals. You can contact. PT Directly for an evaluation learn more and find a physical therapist near you at choose PTA IT DOT COM so The Valet said earlier that I wanted to ask you about your your dance company You're a partner In in in dance with me with your brother Max. And with other champion being in celebrity dancers and you your motto. I think it says on your website. Something about Teaching dance to everyone from beginning beginners to overachievers. And there's also a statement on the website that says it's not just about learning two dances about feeling healthier and happier while expressing yourself and being part of an incredible community so How can you talk to me a little bit about sort of what? The philosophy and goals behind a dance with our philosophy is simple in terms comes in our whole goal to make people feel better and they feel happier. Dan just happens to be the vehicle allows pursued that we'd teach multiple our services private so we also by the dance or less than two people you know have got caught up. Whether they're they got caught up in their life or their careers and this is another way for them to engage physically and also have fun doing it you know not everybody wants to go to the gym and run or workout. This is incredible workout while having a blast and loving movement and dance and sends music. You know obviously I seen the the transformation that it offers to people on our show and You know the one thing that we get over time it was like what are you gonNa have. Dancing scarves was regular people. Well nationally means a place where regular people can come in and have a dancing with the stars like moment and when I say that you know you get into dance education to getting that personal I tell all my My partner is on the show like you you have my undivided on just undivided attention and effort. Like this will be the best two months ago right. You know whether that becomes the truth or not the benchmark that I'm trying to push for And again in the process if the dance education of course but it's the human interaction you know. We were Seoul connected to a phone so disconnected physically Emotional that it can have to just dance even even forward to two hours hours a week or one hour a week once a week or less and views. You seem to have an amazing rest of the week And it's just an incredible condition to the recipe of happiness. A lot of people I have to. I have to ask you while we're on the phone. I'm I'm hearing a dog in the background. Do you dance with your dog ever do that to my dog. Actually even my daughter now my little my little league. Yeah he was on tour with us as well. Yeah so Gene I I wanted to ask you about that. You know you've gone with Max and And Val on tour and From what you said. You've you've done other touring types events. What challenges does being in different venues and and different circumstances present to you as a physical therapist working with working with people when they're on tour tourists just a whole other world whole other lifestyle and in your day to day is weird For lack of a better word. It's not a bad thing groundhog's day runoff very different city basically It's very what you love. It is and the in that sense. It's it's all all I can. It's all I do my what I what I do is all I do while. I'm not make sense. Just like ballots. All he does for that you know two months three months whatever it is is is what he does and what he loves. And so it's a very Concentrated physical therapy experience. I guess because that's all we're doing for the most part and it's challenging in the venues just for logistics reasons face for time for supplies by travel level with all the supplies that I can possibly travel and over the years. Those have exploded. I used to have like one little suitcase. And now I have this huge road case. Go on tour and Sometimes it's down to the nitty gritty. And I have to get really creative about treatments or what. I'm using for treatments or anything. That happens happens during the show. I'm not the first line of defense if anything happens during the performances on stage so sometimes I get really creative and it. It makes it very interesting but we also do a nightly one on tour which we do about thirty to forty five minutes before the show every single night. I'm for all of them to go and participate in it and I think it's done a lot for preventing injuries and the best a little put the cast on page. I mean it's again it's a team. It's the same team philosophy that that is so apparent in in sports that you've seen force in thing any cast on the more together. We are the more physically ready. We are a lot of times. We don't WanNa do that. But it sets push showtime to come out with an energy rather than build energies on the show. We already prepared and ready to go on. It's honestly the best shape I get into on just because of the show but because of but because every day with Gina working out stretching and prep it goes a combination of performing every night but also the working out and the you know the stretching. It's kind of a force ideal situation relation because they can't you know they're kind of a captive audience shaw and every single day especially during like a winter tour probably snowing Outside and you've never been to the city before what are you GonNa do. Well you're stuck with me So that's kind of what we were talking about. How it's so focused and all you're doing dancing all? I'm doing a physical therapy. I wanted to go back to one thing you had said earlier Jeannie we're talking about needing to get creative. Can you give me an example like the ways in which you might need to improvise sort of along the way I mean for example With the show with a television show a lot of the times I have to do taping a different body parts and sometimes it doesn't always work because they don't want us to show on camera and their costumes particularly the girls costumes. Although sometimes the meant it doesn't lend itself to a nice perfect perfect taping. I would normally do so. I have to get creative and figure out a different way to have the same effect with less paper tape in a different in spot or some other type of you know medium to us. Same thing for tour Although there's a little bit more leeway with using that kind of stuff on the tour but also also just the on tour the supplies I have are not As plentiful because they have to be mobile you know they have something I could carry very to and from each venue so sometimes I have to get interesting with you. Know any kind of modality that I'm using modality meaning like an ice or heat or laser technique occur electric stimulation. There's different kinds of things that we use them. Physical therapy and and sometimes they're not always transportable on the road So that's what I mean about in created. Sometimes you have to figure out a different way to have the same effect with something that you'd normally use you talked earlier about about taping and the fact that you can't necessarily keep those this body areas because they might show on camera or what have you. What do you do in a circumstance like that? I mean how do you get around that Sometimes you sometimes I just have to. who has some body makeup? Can you come over here right. Sometimes though I do have to Try to address the different areas so it depends on the kind of tape I use. Also you know. A lot of people think paid just just to wrap something tightly restricted. Sometimes I use a different kind of tape that allows for movement and it actually helps certain muscles move so sometimes I will take muscles. That'll move differently and help the injured muscle but it isn't visible. If that makes sense so I can tape something on the opposite side of the body that I know is going to help the injured area but it won't be shown different things like that. Sometimes I turn down so that the tape isn't showing simply like just the line in the sand or sometimes I tape it in a different way where I know. It's going to help a certain part of the injury injury feel better and we just have to work to be honest sometimes it looks that asks on. TV really hard core. Ah Yeah I got tape on track because the using them. Now I get that Valid what to ask you about something something else you know we. We've been talking about the the show in particular killer and also your other dance activities but you're also known for your work with with children with special needs and also for your philanthropic work so I wanted to ask you a little bit about those two things about The work that you do with children with special needs and also your philanthropy you. Can you can talk about that. Yeah I I don't know I'm very grateful. He told the officer that I have. And when I dream about you know becoming famous the same but for me fame unless you A are making making a living off of it or be Using the platform to make beautiful you know better change in the world. Make the world a better place Then it's a nuisance and then credible the comfort of your life You know so for me now that I have never really expect it to be honest. Dancing was never gonNA be my gateway to Hollywood like no one in a million years competing in ballroom dancing that was going to be a reality show. there's GonNa put good born dancing and millions of living rooms around the world you know so now the die is on me and I never expected it whenever alright dreamed about this moment. If it would ever happen I would happen all I could think about. was you know. Besides by my Mama House was to be involved with my community and to be a voice of change and then voice father voice of like someone trying to if to raise money. I think the fact that I have the ability to reach thousands of people To raise funds for great. 'cause there's like a superpower Power though I'm so grateful that I have that's like that's the bird that makes me grateful. That'd be not in the fact that I used to think go shirt on the wall. Also like that's not necessarily the poor guy you know I'm I'm grateful for. I'm proud of the fact that I get some bar neuro. Wouldn't charity like pencils of promise. You know and help raise funds to build a two schools in Ghana Help build the schooling Guatemala. You Know Oh self-sustaining schools that don't just build a building but no they get in the community. They made their infrastructure not just in the physical which goes along way but also in actual hiring of teachers vetting insures creating a local present? No and given kidding remote places go and never have access to education and therefore never have a chance to compete promoted to get pizza live in. Today's it is world without education. You'RE NOT GONNA NOT GONNA be able to accomplish anything. I'm a dancer. Yes but I had occasion Bill you know no one knew that that was gonna be a dance. It's still got a chance to be educated and that made me a better Danforth who you're going to be honest so anyway. Education is huge for me especially With kids at least giving people a chance because it's a boring world if it's the same people giving the same chance but I mean my so. That's Ah that's a huge thing for me and then in terms of again back to chance but beyond you know there are a lot of kids that unfortunately dealing with disabilities or Lord unfortunate circumstances in terms of health. You know. I'm so grateful. I couldn't have anything if I didn't have how you know. Survive with chance to you know so help. Put a smile on on someone going through a hard time That's another superpower. I mean my God. What a privilege right but I have the power? The first time I I went to La Children's hospital like man. I was nervous because what if I came in and they'd be like who's this guy. I expected someone. Cooler like us So the fact that I have kids and families like you excited to see me. Yeah man and all I gotTa do is allocate Tainos. I know see I mean what a privilege you know. It's an honor but it's also responsibility so you know it's a responsibility that I think is is a very beautiful thing you know. There's yeah that's how I feel about it no no I'm not affiliated with you know any particular charity for the charities already that like I said I mentioned I've worked with. I thought you know kind of I wish I had time and the resources to literally changed you know as far as I could see I wanna change go live and all that and the show has allowed me to see further than I ever imagined Gina. One of the things that vow was just talking about was like using using using his celebrity essentially as a as a platform. I'm just wondering if Through your your various activities that you feel like you have maybe a little bit of a different platform that you might have otherwise to kind of inform people about physical therapy and what physical therapists do definitely. I mean I mean. I don't have celebrity per se but probably more have this podcast. This podcast. That is But no it's it's interesting to point that out because it is very important to me and it actually has been something that has just very recently becomes more of a project for me is really shedding some light on physical therapist and what we do. Because I think it's very rare unless you are a physical therapist or have had physical therapy at some point in your life that you know what physical therapy is and even then sometimes I don't know that people understand it There are such a wide range of what PT. He's do and so many different niches and and so many different avenues that as a professional you can specialize in And and at the very least my involvement was dancing with the stars the very sparks interest. If I'm talking to somebody and they ask what I do and I tell them and they go. Oh that's so interesting interesting and then I kind of just one on one. Educate you know this is what I do and this is what I do for them and this physical therapist so at the very release it does that and also just involving myself with the show Has Given me some camera times very very rarely like love that necessarily but it has given me. You know some time on camera that I can showcase or sometimes the the people that I treat will put me on their social media or take a picture and say getting physical therapy with gene you know cetera lends itself to just opening that door And right now I'm really trying to create more of that exposure But it's a little bit difficult because pty she's were limited or as any medical professional. We're limited by privacy laws and and other issues of of showing patients or offering you know advice that people may take and misuse. And then you've got a problem on your hands. So there is a little bit of a limitation there but I definitely I am working on that because I think it's important. Not only for me as a professional because I take pride in what I do. I want people to truly understand what I do. But on a grander scale. I think that the public needs to know what we do because they need to know. Oh I could get physical therapy. I could use physical therapy for this. They can benefit from Benefit from understanding what it is exactly that our job is so. That's my new mission trying to trying to shed some light on our profession something to do in your spare time. Sometimes you have so much of exactly exactly but I mean thanks for this podcast and for the work that you guys do on choose. PTA DOT COM. Because it's just that it's an avenue to educate people about what it is exactly likely that we do. It's a little bit of you know an insult when people say oh. You're a physical therapist. I need a massage. Gosh and And I I've gone from resenting that a little bit too realizing well you know what it's my responsibility to educate and make it known but this is exactly what we do and it's it's not just being a glorified is servicing and. I'm not no disrespect to massage there. 'cause they do enjoy but but they're are different roles but they're different roles to be honest with you. I doubt anybody would wanNA massage from me because I yeah it's pretty good. She's pretty good for an amateur relies. Law doesn't last long but yeah so my last question. I wanted to ask this to both of you. I mean As as we were recording. This as we're doing this podcast When people hear this podcast season twenty eight of dancing with the stars? We'll be over but as we're recording it. We're coming up on the last episode. So I'm not GonNa ask you to speculate on what will happen or anything on that episode. But what I did want to ask is both of you. Why do you think the show is is so popular? Why do you think it's as popular as it is? And why do people keep tuning in. What what what? What makes it special to both of you? And what what do you feel about your your participation and why is your participation in it specialty. You kind of make the closing remarks on that but for me I'm just I'm just thrilled to be part of something that's involved in entertainment that's I've never ever come across anybody that said. Oh dancing with the stars. I hate that show. It's never met with anything like that. It's always oh I love that show. And if they haven't watched it they say oh you know my parents that show my daughter loves that. Show whatever It's it's one of the very few things that we can see in the media these days. That's positive that's uplifting heartwarming. You know nate you name any positive emotion and I think it it exudes that And it's it's lets people see Vulnerable side of celebrity that they might not have otherwise known. It's going through. You know a variety of problems or a journey and It's it really pulled up at the human spirit and Not only just because of exactly what they're doing starting at one level and taking this journey and hopefully having a victory at the end end but they've all got a backdoor they all have something that's going on in their life at same time whereas let them to that point and people get to share in it and people we'll get to take a positive message from it and I don't think you could say that about too many other shows That can can have millions of different diverse American across the country with these different beliefs. And all these different backgrounds. Sit Down on a Monday night for a couple of hours and really feel good about anything for like Whoa. And it's sort of inherently hopeful to isn't it it's like a youtube can be a ballroom dancer exactly exactly and I'm living proof of that But that's how that's how I feel. What about the show? And that's why I really enjoyed being part of it and any little bit that I do that helps do that. I take a lot of pride in. I mean the dancer as a performer. Former grade human. You Know I. I've been blessed in my life to kind of always make a living doing what I love but has it always been on the show and you know there's a necessarily mean that the rest of my life would be on the show but I am so proud to be on the show and and you know as long as they keep asking me to come back. I will be a part of the show regardless of what I have going on elsewhere Because it's again it's the very rare thing to be part of a project performer. That is so joyous and so kind to everyone involved. I mean again. It's competition honestly. Sometimes things are gonNA happen. Where feeling hurt but everyone is part of something that is ultimately respectful gracious courteous beautiful? You know dancing. General Mama. Big Preacher of the power of Ban Aboard in in particular you know bringing people together support one. Another build combating together and showcase their journey together and Ah doing so in this beautiful creative environment I think is really really special and I think that's why people continue to gravitate to our show for so long. Now it's become tradition as a family tradition to come together Monday night and and watch it as a family and create kind of a national camaraderie in a sense as as Gina was alluding to. Yeah yeah some some ways do yeah so it. It creates a place for people to come together that honestly otherwise would have never been in the same room You would have and the world would have missed out on. I'm opportunity to celebrate them in a different light In a life that had essentially created a completely different narrative for them. You know so it's again. I'm I'm really proud to be part of dancing with the stars. I'm proud that I'm a dancer and I'm proud that I get to. You know to teach them and help and promote dance students stars well vow Gina. Thank you so much for your time and thanks for joining us on. Move Forward Radio. We've we've really appreciated You're sharing your experiences with us. Thank you my pleasure and thank you for listening to move for. Radio insight from our guests is for informational purposes only and should not be used as a substitute for individual treatment by medical professional. Subscribe on Apple. podcast Google podcast or spotify or find previous episodes choose dot com the official consumer information website of the American physical therapy of find a physical therapist near you cashews. P._T. DOT COM.

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Ep 273 | Socialism's First Victim in the U.S. | Guest: Josh Hammer

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Ep 273 | Socialism's First Victim in the U.S. | Guest: Josh Hammer

"Welcome to the news. And why it matters. I am Ciragan solace. We are so happy to be joined by special guest. Josh hammer back in studio. Hear Glenn motza top story for you top story for me is the effect of socialism on cities in America that are already starting to collapse. And nobody seems to notice right now we thought it was coming about one hundred thousand times, but we believe Joe Chela is tomorrow. The Joe Biden coach. All right. We'll see Josh. Yes. Ilan Omar does it again. She does it again this week recently uncovered tweet about obtuse moral relativism to put mildly about Black Hawk Down blaming American soldiers for taking some alive. Just totally important. So she does it again a lot to get into their. It's almost as if she doesn't actually love America almost like we'll get into that. I think our sponsor relieffactor. So we here at blaze TV are really thankful for relief factor because Glenn tolerable to work with has so sad. You really that? When you're in pain that affects every single part of your life -absolutely everything used to be really really fun to hang out with. Is just he's also in the middle of laughing. He just grimaces. Yeah. He's he just like is a dizzying excruciating bit. We both go to the same pain doctor in the same back, doctor, and he the ping doctors. Like, I don't know how that guy even walked. Wow. You see bad stuff too. I have gotten out of pain. A lot of my pain has been relieved by relieffactor the day to day stuff that just just couldn't take it anymore. And relieffactor helped me reduces, the inflammation. It is all it's all natural done by doctors. I know what they're doing and and has four key ingredients. And all it does is just help your body fight, the inflammation, and that's really what causes pain and so many other problems in her body. So try it for three weeks if doesn't work you're out, twenty bucks. But if it does work, you have your life back and seventy percent of the people who try it it works, and they go into order more month after month. It's relief factor relief factor dot com. When you said socialism is already collapsing cities here in the United States. No one's listening. I mean, we are watching we're watching. I mean, we we don't we don't necessarily say, oh, San Francisco. It's a socialist city. We just say, it's San Francisco, and we all know San Francisco. I grew up in Seattle and the Seattle area. Seattle is one of the most beautiful cities in America. So San Francisco, but San Francisco. Seattle has taken this mad Marxist left, and it is just devouring itself. And there is a there's a very brave documentary that was put on television by KOMO TV was a local documentary called Seattle is dying. And I watched a friend of mine NC L Senate to me and said you've got to watch this documentary. This is crazy, Glenn what's going on up here. I had no idea. How bad it was. And I'm watching it seeing a city that I loved and I know the street corners that they're on. And I'm like that used to be the nicest streetcar, oh, it still is the nicest street corner. And that's what's happening. We tried to get people on and they wouldn't they wouldn't come on the documentary filmmakers didn't wanna come on. I don't I don't know why. But I assume it's because it took enough bravery to go on television, Seattle and say, this doesn't work. They don't need to rub salt in the wounds by going nationally and say that. What's happening? There is a hostile takeover by Marxist radicals. If you wanna see what America will be like, the beginnings of first term of socialist democrat in the Oval Office. If you wanna see what it'd be like looked to Seattle. You wanna see how the government will respond to you look to Seattle? Let me play two clips for you. This one is I where these these constituents go to the Seattle city council, and they're saying, look, we we have we have drugs on our streets. We our children are not safe. Our houses are being broken into. We can't do business here anymore. You gotta help us want you to watch the response of the council watch watch what they say and do. Manage these camps. And will you enforce the law? Devolved profound disconnect and rarely has been more vividly laid out than in this exchanged property crimes. Committed violence committed you need to call nine one one and the. You was all credibility when you say. Said two words, you said call nine one one do understand that the police have told us to vote you all out so that they can do their jobs. Think it's funny who think is funny. The we were living the police are quitting their the police. Officers are walking off the job saying, I can't do it anymore. This doesn't make sense what they want us to do is not police and this documentary because it's made in such a progressive era area. I thought it was really remarkable. Did you notice this tone? When you watched it how they kept expressing this is not compassion because they're talking to these bleeding-heart progressives, and these marxists who are not connected to reality. That are all saying that we have to do the right thing we have to care about people. And so this documentary all the way through keep saying, this is not something that is good for people. This is this is not helping people on the street. But the nor the people who actually are paying the taxes and are living there. They only seem to care about the people that are living on the street. Seats, and they are taking advantage of the system because there is no law anymore that they enforce what you watch one more exchange with the city council. If you think that was an isolated incident watch how the Seattle city council completely dismisses this man and rubs him. We're just rubs his face in his smallness, watch it after noon afternoon. Free start the clock. Could you stop? If your second. Chill. Discouraging come up here and see all the heads down. It's like you're on a two minute timer here. So let's go ear on a two minute timer. Started over please. No, we're not going to just go ahead. So it was unreasonable. You ask people look up and give me to their tension theory. You have two minutes. We're all looking at you have two minutes. I have a minute and thirty seconds last week. Hugh limited speakers because there's number speakers to one minute each, but you allowed Paul to speak as long as she wanted to four or five minutes, and it reminded me of George Orwell's famous Saint from animal farm about how all animals are equal. But some are more equal. Others. And that's how I feel like I'm being treated now. Just because I was kind of asking for your attention. Immediately. Got a hostile response back from the I don't understand that. So you don't ever respond to citizens, or what do you, sir? But you have to minutes Republic comment to the agenda items. About one dollars all on tape. And I think it's a pretty sad commentary that you think that asking for you guys to look up offer your computers and give a tension during the short period of time was an unreasonable thing. I really feel about about that. Thank you. Listen to listen to that guy. He's not a troublemaker. He's not he's just saying can you show some humanity here. This is what happens if a business was run like Seattle is being run. If if we talked to a guy today who runs a cemetery drugs. People living in the cemetery selling drugs prostitution in the cemetery cost him two hundred thousand dollars last year just to repair and keep this cemetery. You know, K the city will do nothing about it. Nothing. They won't arrest. They won't do anything about it. Now, if if you had a a, you know, a business that was supposed to protect this this cemetery the sacred spot. And they didn't do it. You would have the ability to go to the press, and the press would expose that company as being a lousy here. You can't go to the press because they're in on it. You can't go to the police because they can't do anything about it. And your last stop is the government. And that's the way they treat you that is socialism that is what's coming. If America doesn't wake up it's really worth time because it's a really should foreshadowing whatever other city in America is about to be going through. If we keep going down this road. Can I just interject for a second here in Dallas, Dallas county? We just talked about this the other day, we're now not prosecuting people for you know, theft of less than seven hundred and fifty dollars. That's it's the same thing. Did you hear the governor on my show? Yeah, he was pissed pissed and it's amazing because it's the reverse of like Giuliani approach, right? Where Giuliani one in? Hey, let's get rid of these like pesky crimes at annoy people have windows, broken windows theory. They're making actually doing the. Sit here there's like well for our little so we can have our social Justice points with our friends. We'll go out there and let everyone do whatever they want. They're not letting the police enforce the law. There's a story in there about a guy who is out in front of the courthouse selling methamphetamine, he gets arrested. And and he goes to goes to jail, and they they find out he's got a prior kidnapping and also was the only the only suspect in a, you know, brutal rape of a woman earlier on in his life. They let him out not even hold them for twenty four hours. And what he did is he went to a retirement, home, and and rave to seventy one year old woman nearly to death, and she was, you know, all sorts of horrible things happen to her and like, this is very much. That's the worst case scenario, but it's very much run of the mill that these things happen. They get released all the time there. They have records of people who've been, you know, arrested fifty sixty seventy eighty ninety time for the same types of things and they just get released back onto the street. And I think you're the big point in the whole thing was just this is not a comp-. Not to houses compassionate side. Guys, who Lao people to live like this who is is. One scene. He's in a trash can clearly out of his mind legitimate. Like Reno nine one one thing. It's like it looks like comedy almost, you know, but it's not and they spend so much time trying to coax him out of the trash can. And he's biting them and spitting on them biting himself writing himself. It's crazy. Okay. They spend all this time to get this guy out. He's done it before. And he's he's now he was he's taking in and they immediately release him. He goes back on the streets. He's now he's like a meth user. He's now stealing and they have him on tape. Proud of stealing. He's like, yeah. As great and I have been arrested. How many times did he say I've been arrested over and over and again Seattle, and I broke them. I now have broken the system. They don't dare arrest me. Yeah. I'm stealing now. No big deal. Josh last one it wasn't just in Portland. Last month at Andy know from Twitter all those videos of again tea taking over downtown traffic, and the police are just it was just in Portland writes something's going on there in the Pacific northwest. I've actually never been to Oregon Washington state. So I can't tell you what's in the water personally, but something's going on there. But you know, it seems to me as talking about compassion how like the compassion crowd. Oftentimes gets the exact opposite of what the intend I immigration, right? I mean, we have an unprecedented crisis at our southern border right now the numbers are astronomical CDP just this week said and the Rio Grande valley sector most traffic center, we've already had more comprehensive in fiscal year twenty nineteen to the first seven months than the entire fiscal year. Twenty eighteen like, it's it's unprecedented. We we're in uncharted waters right now, but the compassion crowd. The people who are trying to get catch and release who are trying to eliminate these attention centers who are trying to kill one from the northern triangle, Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras to come on up what they're doing is eighty embedding these anti compassionate, Hugh. Trafficking rings the cartels. They're they're inciting violence on the border. So the amnesty open borders crowd is a great example. I think of how this compassion mindset, oftentimes leads to the exact opposite of. 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ABC news today confirmed it that the tomorrow he's going to announce his campaign in video which we're now preannouncing videos, and then the the Monday, they're going to do his first sort of campaign event. In. I think is Pennsylvania e- enters the race as the front runner. I think for sure though, you know, that this this could also be the peak of his campaign. Right. Like, this this this does tend to happen that way everyone likes the the backup quarterback. So here is once he gets into the game. You know, who knows how this is gonna work. I would be fascinated to hear your take on how Joe's fair. So I think that Joe Biden is going to peak tomorrow all downhill from there. That's a can't Joe Biden is to mater today's Democratic Party, which is pretty crazy Joe by is not a particularly moderate. Go back to the YouTube clips of him during the Robert Bork's pink court hearings. When he was tag, teaming with Ted Kennedy to do the most vile, personal attack and part of the history of the United States Senate judiciary committee, but Joe Biden if you look at it he's had some some some of his rhetorical stance. And some of his substantive stances on things like race crime. He used to become a tough on crime kind of guy was part is kind of blue collar appeal was he was there to protect the people from the criminals, but that is that's for boat. And in today's party that is, you know, obsessed with these prosecutors like we've talking in Dallas county that are just not prosecuting the level of Fender. So I think Joe Biden is to moderate, honestly, maybe two white too old the Obama coalition, I think is probably going to go little more to Kamla Harris. The intersection -ality people will flock there if I had to predict so I don't think by going to last to be honest with you, I could be wrong. But I don't see it. I mean, it's gonna be interesting. I think the things like the the things that people leak against you in primary. Are the things you put in your own commercials, and the general, and it's like if biting can get through this, you know, so that's gonna help him when he's talking about being tough on crime. He's going to be able to legitimately go back and point to certain things that are going to make him seem more moderate. And I think he is signaling that he's going to run try to run as a progressive in the actual camp in the primary, which I don't know if it's gonna work presented progressive support him eight percent that was it yourself. Yeah. So, but again, he is every poll pretty much. So he does it's it's an enviable place to be entering campaign. Like this. Also, you know, he's there and kind of the opposite of this is Pete Buddha. Judge who comes in with no fanfare, whatsoever is in dead last place. So you'd expect the mayor south bend, Indiana. And that was really like third place in a lot of these polls third or fourth in that in that range. And it's interesting story came out today. I don't know mayor Pete believes this, but he's not going to just get this nomination handed to like they're not gonna just like walk them into the. Eight name your VP. That's not how this is going to go. They're going to they're going to be critical of this guy. They just didn't expect him to make any noise. So they didn't have anything prepared. They've now said that they're going through and they're about done with all the opposition research. There's a new report out going through they've gone through all of his hirings and firings. They've gone through all of his public statements. All of this local interviews, I mean, they are really going to the wall because this guy is a legitimate threat. He is not really announced any policy policies at all intentionally. And the only thing is kind of done has been mildly critical of Sanders. So the, you know, the belief is maybe he's trying to walk in between Abidin and and an Sanders. I mean, it's a it's a tough strategy. And it will be interesting to see because we've seen this before with Herman Cain with Fred Thompson with Carly Fiorina with so many of these candidates. They have their little run they had their this. This little most the moment is this just a moment. Or is it something longer lasting? I mean, we'll probably know within about a month or so he's still hanging around in a month or two I mean, probably start taking this seriously. I think also with Biden it'll be interesting to see the two different factions. Right because you've got the socialist faction. And then you've got the moderate, right? You can call it that. And you know, I don't know it's the oldest applicant and then the new the new wing of the party trying to rise up. So it'll be interesting to see I think that will be very indicative of who is going to control that party from now forward, let's see Barack Obama not policy just in name changes to a Republican and Donald Trump dies and everybody dies, and they're like we gotta have somebody in. It's and it's Barack Obama's gonna be the replacement for and he's running is there anyone on the democratic field today that is currently running that you would go. Well, I mean Bronco Bama this this individual. I don't think we're going to be fully socialist for years. Is there anyone on the field today that you don't think we'll take us down a Vatican radical road? I mean, Biden the only one who's even close, right? I mean. Right because that's state of affairs to say Biden would be the only on this because he's not moderate. But he is today when he ran with Obama if they were one to as far as most liberal senators and Senate, I don't remember what order the order was. But they were one to this is not a guy who's a moderate. And it's interesting. He he's being portrayed as person who's going to run as a matter. And I think that's how the other leftists are going to try to portray him. I don't think he's going to portray himself that way. I think he's got to try to say I mean, he said it already on the most progressive guy running. I mean, I'm not running that moment. He went out. Remember, Barack Obama only said he was forgave marriage. Because. Came out and said. All of them all in the great points. What about body buying historically called himself personally pro-life ill? Mario Cuomo steady. Right. I mean, the pilots kind of like blue collar Catholic the by was trying to do in the rust belt's. But how is that going to play as democratic parties and feel like it does doesn't right? All right back in a minute. To doesn't seem like it would work activists. See weeks ago? I tweeted out a joke about a ridiculous wooden fork. I got at the mall while out with my family. I said I was just giving a crappy wooden fork to eat chicken with and I wanna tell you it really is terribly crappy. And I want to remind everyone this is a stupid future. AFC wants for us. Of course, referring to the green deal today. That's week was resurrected by a salon dot com. Writer who of course, alerted all of her rabid climate change catastrophes who immediately attacked me. Some people told me to try stabbing myself with the fork some insult in my manicure as if it would be insulting to point out that busy working mothers don't always have time to go to the nail salon others called me the seaward, but they didn't stop there. One of these cult members whose name I do know, but I won't share on air took time and energy to find my personal private Email address. And other personal information about me and send me the following emails. One of them. If you want to tweet out nonsense keep doing it will roast the f out of you all day dumb. The white girl posing when she just a basic white girl, grandma, the next male. He uses my legal last name, which he clearly went to great lengths to find. It says who Sarah, and it lists my legal name or do you have a fake last name to sound less white now, this is a name. I do not use publicly in order to keep my family like separate and protected from my public life and career he then tweeted out my legal name as a means to docks and intimidate me. Well, tough-guy allow me to answer you publicly where the whole world can here because I'm not a cowardly little man who hides behind a fake Email address, sending threatening emails to women with whom I disagreed not that it matters to anyone other than you and the rest of the rabid left foaming at the mouth for some sort of intersection -ality war, but my maiden name is Gonzales, I was born Sara Gonzalez, one of my grandparents came from Spain the other from Mexico, and I'm terribly sorry. If my skin isn't Brown enough for you. And this is the exact reason I use my maiden name because cultists like you will go to any length possible to silence. Those who do not think as you do who do not do as you do who are not sheep parroting the same tired talking points from the left. And if you think for one second, you're going to intimidate me into shutting up you are dead wrong. People like you are the reason I do what I do. You are the reason that I worked tirelessly to remind people of truth and facts and history, by the way, all of which are on my side. So you can continue stalking me and violating my privacy. If you'd like, but I'd like to remind you that I live in Texas and we carry for watching. We'll see in overtime. Good awesome. I I wanna read like that on wooden forks. Up next joy, bonus overtime content. From the news wide matters. Available exclusively for podcast listeners and blaze TV subscribers. Not a subscriber. Start your free trial at blaze, TV dot com. Josh, we're gonna get your topic. I promise, but we were just talking off air about wooden fourth. I feel like we got we got to discuss this commercial wouldn't forks are terrible the devil now paper straws or Satan. So I mean, I think there's a split there. Somehow, it's hard hard to to rank these I do feel like paper straws, take the cave. Yes, they're the worst the worst. And then wouldn't forks, and like, I whether it's environmental or not like is not my my issue with either of those things like I July to- places sell the plastic though the paper. Wooden spoons. And like, I there it's awful. It's like you're just ruining your product. And I can't imagine that there's anybody out there who actually likes them awful. They're awful awful products and the paper straws awful. And I mean, the wouldn't fork is like, it's almost inhuman. Honestly, like as you read it and it just asked us off the air. But it's like, I don't even understand. What was their issue with you? You didn't say that like we should ban all of them or you didn't say that. I mean, you just made a quick little joke, basically saying I don't like these folks what was their issue with you? I dare say that I wanted plastic. Instead didn't by the way, I know I didn't. And I'm in favor of killing our children. How dare I not want a future for our children in logic, by the way, right exactly. If we wanted to kill children, we'd have to have metal forks. It'd be a lot easier to kill the children that they're really great point the wooden ones would break. Also, if I wanted to kill children, I would be pro choice that is an interesting for patient. I don't know that they thought of no. But the wooden forks let me just explain. I don't know if they can go back to might the picture in my tweet. It's not even it's not pointy pointy the point of tongs. The point of a fork is for you to be able to stab some also. They need to be deeper. So you can get deeper into the food and like pick it up. Right. You're just like taking the little edge of the food. This is I'm totally with you on this, by the way, this is I've never been with you more. Well, don't tell don't tell Twitter that. Oh, come after you already hate me. Killers, especially when they find out that you don't agree with them on climate change. Oh, well, I mean, I don't agree with the climate change. But honestly, like if you wanted to put in the whole green new deal, I'd rather have that than paper Strauss would actually if I band paper, keep them the entire green new deal. You can have it have your ninety percent tax rates. Whatever you want. No, more paper, straw I- lunch last Thursday, and Florida's visiting my grandmother, and they had paper straws this restaurant literally for like an hour meal at ask for three new straw because they just melt. Stick together. You can't drink anything from. They're not even environmental. I guarantee in a year or two they'll be study that comes out of the shows that they're worse than plastic straws. As always the case, we just did the story of plastic bags versus reusable bags again. It shows what everyone knows. There was a new one that came out in the Wall Street Journal yesterday about how electric cars or not, you know, as environmentally pleasing. We all thought they were. I never thought think they are. Because we all at the end of the day. We always find the opposite is true with these things, you know, paper straws at your right three four five in dinner. I mean, it is ridiculous. The whole nightside. It's pleasurable or enjoy drinking. The first place is it's an amazing thing. Because this goes back to what we were talking about with Seattle in that like these restaurants. These businesses are putting their virtue signaling ahead of your experience at their restaurant. Like, they're actually saying look we all like any legit environmentalists. And there are some who legitimately believe this. And you could tell who they are when they argue for nuclear power. That's about the time you can tell they're actually. A legitimate environmentalist. But they they will tell you anyone will tell you that there's no way that the difference between a plastic to paper straw makes any difference in the environment. There is literally no detectable difference at all. Yeah. You could say, well, they biodegrade. But I mean, again, this is a large place with a lot of stuff going on. It's going to be notified to the end game. When it comes to the environment. It's all about virtue. It's all about saying. I'm good person. See I gave you the straw. And it's supposed to make you as a customer say. Well, you know, what I like this place because they're trying to help like that is it's all disingenuous it doesn't do anything. And in the end of the day. It just makes you it makes your experience on pleasant. The one thing they're supposed to be doing. They don't actually accomplish. I would just like to say I plan to go to Costco, and buy a giant box of plastic utensils and every single time I use one I'm going to dedicate it every single trolls. When I throw it away love that. I'll just tweet back to them me throwing. The plastics Poon away. Nobody Cosco by one of the big bags. Just just take it over to the trash just all on you just to piss them off. Let's get Jif you doing that. Done. All right. Josh Ilan on Omar. Yes. So she'll patriotic she's done. She's done it again. Right. Such patriotism such of America. Yes. So ill, and Omar the Linea what she's done obviously, does not need to be repeated most recently, of course, was the nine eleven things. Some people did something video from care first of all by the way, she botched the you're the care was founded you made sound like it was founded after nine hundred and one she botched it, I mean, do you think I mean it was intentional probably because it makes much more sympathetic than is clearly very familiar with care. He's very familiar with her work with them. So I feel like that was just kind of a purposeful fair enough. Yeah. So we had that. And then of course, we had his other video uncover from like twenty thirteen talking to some interviewer about how when she was in college professor would say like al-qaeda. Haida the same way that they would say, you know, like England or America. Like, no, these things are not the same thing as another one is the greatest country in the history of western civilization one committed the greatest jihad attack in the history of our entire country. So now the same thing which is. Dippers it only only small, but she's done yet again this week so early this week the investigative project on terrorism, which is a pretty indispensable website that a lot of people haven't really heard much about they were huge and covering the two thousand eight holy land foundation trial, but is actually right here in the Dallas area. It was the largest Tara financing trial in the history of the United States. Government care was care was actually found that an unindicted co-conspirator in that trial. You've got to get that. Exactly. Right. Because it very litigious. So you've got to make sure you say. Yeah. But anyway, the terrorism on earth is tweet from October twenty seventeen the tweet was a little over a month. If I recall right after mar herself, Venice state Representative who at the time, she met at the at the United Nations with type Erta won the dictator of Turkey who is the number one jailer of journalists in the entire world. He has made surkey far from the editor founded secular country that was made probably the number one sponsor, the Muslim Brotherhood and HAMAs and less month. After that, she found some tweet about Black Hawk Down the famous night and ninety three battle in Mogadishu, which is very Lamar's from and the tree was talking about how the nineteen Americans pay the price that gave their life in in this very courageous mission. And Illinois Amar, basically, quote tweet the tweet and says, well, what about the American crimes on this molly's, hashtag not today Satan? Gets also mentioned that thousands of Somalis killed by the American forces that day, thousands thousands. So hold aside, the factual inaccuracy and focus on the just beyond up to small relativism going on here. Okay. Tucker Carlson last night. I had a good segment on this. Tucker is very skeptical for engagements, but even Tucker last night was talking about how Black Hawk Down the battle Mogadishu was not like a pro long nation building democracy promotion crusade. It was not like a rock. It was very different. It was eight twenty four to thirty six hour targeted humanitarian mission. And we probably saved hundreds of thousands of Somali lives by getting rid of a vicious warlord ninety Americans pay the ultimate price there and Illinois Mars talking about how Americans killed in her bizarrely. A factual information thousands of Somalis the same person's downplaying Al Qaeda, who's downplaying nine eleven. So I don't think it's unfair. In the slightest to ask this woman has America's best interests at heart. I mean legitimately. I don't wanna sound like Alex Jones here, but I login. Adamantly and like issue plant. For real the wood forks now this I mean going off. Hire overtime. I mean seriously. And I know I know her district she represents her district. But I also read something it may have been at the daily wire that her district is like the the largest amount of big community United States. Okay. Elul Amara talking with my friend Jesse Kelly on the radio last night Ilma is very much a symptom. Not a cause of the actual problem. What we actually have the underlying problem here is immigration problem where we're bringing in large swats of largely unvetted immigrants from countries like Somalia that have like ninety five plus percent female genital mutilation rate that don't share our values and this lightest, and we're not focusing on a simulation. Right and her district, she replaced Keith Ellison, obviously goes back with Louis Farrakhan, nation of Islam, so. Yeah. D- plus twenty six districts. It's a far left dish it with the huge smelly population. And we've got to be very careful when we're bringing in these masters immigrants from the third world that were very carefully tuned to assimilation because we're curling just not doing that. Amazed by bar because I'm constantly told the same thing, which is a lot of our AO C and all the rest are just they you know, they, you know, you might not agree with him. But they really they know how to use social media, and they're they're brilliant. And it's like, well, I mean, they they get attention on social media is usually because they're falling on their face. Like, this is like anyone can do that. Like, you know, people like if you're doing a back door wrestling in jump off your roof and you land on your face, you're going to get it'll get a lot of retweets does that mean, you're good at social media. I don't even understand it. It's like, you know. Lindsay. Lohan got a lot of followers when she was like having Oliver issues. Right. Like that that doesn't it wasn't something to praise here. We have a situation where you know, those two particular, but there's a few others that are constantly going online constantly tweeting things that are factually inaccurate that make them look stupid. Like, they don't know. And then they doubled down on it. And like and they're critical of Trump. I've been critical Trump for these same types of things and the he'd pee does a lot of the same types of things. There's such a similarity there in in. In startup, right? Like like AFC just a star. Like, she's not smart. She doesn't know what she's doing her popular. She's not popular. Her polling is about ten to thirteen points underwater. But the fact is that freshman congresswoman can get seventy percent of people to have an opinion on her within a few. You know, really a few months is impressive. Impressive. Why it's not impressive because she's some brainiac solving problems. She's just she's just a constant, you know, she's basically the guy in the Simpsons Kelsey grammer plays. They walked sideshow. Bob, walks around and hits another rake in a hitter in the face. I mean, it gets a lot of retweets. But I don't think it's not exactly a high level skill. So Bryan filter. Our good friend, Brian Stelter over at CNN, he found out that Trump, I guess is skipping the White House correspondents dinner, and I hate to let you guys know this. But it really hurt Brian Stelter fearful much, it's useful for White House. Aides to smooth with reporters helpful for us to get to know our sources, there's some value in these courts festive events, but it is as you said another example of a tradition that's at least being put on pause during the Trump age. But yet another example of what we're seeing this administration's attack against the media takes many forms. One form is the president having a rally this Saturday instead of Italian dinner. I mean. I'm sorry. It's an attack on the media to not attend a dinner. Did you guys were you? The giant attack aging war on the media by not going there to a dinner. I mean, there's a legend who knows if it's actually true though, that you know, several years ago that he Trump was at the correspondents dinner and got blasted by the comedian their Myers Seth Meyers. Right. And you know, the the story is that. That's when he kind of decided I'm gonna show these people and run for president. Whether it's one hundred percent true. I don't know I've read that to them. But it's interesting could've been their fault. Like that event. Could have been the thing that this giant problem that they now have was created by. I mean, this was this goes back to you know, I think if Glenn were here he would definitely yell the name Woodrow Wilson right now. Because if you go back, this is not a good thing. Like, the idea that that there's a smooth event with their politicians and the reporters, you know, it was done intentionally by the White House right to bring them in to try to get them. So their friends in not they're not doing the job of opposition. You know, an opposition party. You know, they're supposed to be there supposed to be the role is supposed to be adversarial. And you saw what happened with with Obama? They're very adversary of now 'cause they don't like Trump with Obama. I mean, we go back to the Iran deal with Ben Rhodes is out there. He's bragging about lying to them. He's bragging in public in the media about lying to these reporters. Fooling them does that the Iran deal did things that didn't do that type of thing that happens when you when you encourage everybody to fraternize like that it's really not a good thing. You bought initiation also spied on journalists? Let's forget I mean, they spot the Associated Press they spied on James Rosen, and that Fox News quite famously. So what this shows is that the media, obviously, have a double standard. They are not applying the same standards to administration political party that they like as opposed to know that they don't like, but I have two questions one is why take three years and Trump Russia done this in twenty seventeen right? The other thing is will the media if ever learned to stop being so conceited and hoity toity. About itself. Probably. No, no. Well, if you look at their ratings, you would think that their ratings would be a wakeup call to them that they needed to receive a particular. Yes, they needed to baby Chuck themselves and figure out what they were doing. And course, correct? But they don't seem to be doing that. So I don't know when they get to the point where they would be able to see that. It just seems like we're reaching a boiling point perhaps because we are so segregated society. From one media, we consume conservative, obviously, had our outlets and left us have their outlets say we have very good taste for sure. But this seems to me on sustainable, right because the vast majority of the White House press corps is still center to left publications even Republican administration. Trump is giving out press passes to a lot of outlets that Obama didn't that press corps is still very hostile. And Trump is is is slowly building up. I think political capital for more sustained battle. If you will. I don't want war, but battle against are very conceited media. And I think in the future probably gonna ministration we could just see like lots of press credentials, just stripped right away. I against that point quickly one last question. I know it's a difficult one. You may not be able to answer it. But is there a bigger was on television? Then Brian felt. If there is nothing. I mean, Chris Hayes, maybe see. But maybe I I think Brian Stelter takes the cake. I'm a pretty big worse. So and I'm on television. So I mean, you gotta put me in the mix. I think for this one. I think it's it's it's bizarre. Bizarre thing that we see here because I mean, it goes both ways to number one. This this sort of the way the media is with Trump right now is bad for reporting. Right. Like, I mean, it's like they're constantly lying about him. They're constantly misrepresenting the things that he says, and you know, I'm not the biggest journal Trump fan in the world by any means. But like they they can not only the hate him because they hate every Republican. They are obsessed with them. There's obsession and hate and that intersection is where they live every single day. And it's not a good place. It's also showed. I think the Muller report shows it's not healthy for the president either. I mean, all of the things that he could be theoretically in trouble for here. When the obstruction side of things it wasn't him. Trying to instruct Justice. It was trying to obstruct the press, and he constantly is lying all the time about to them and about them. And I it's just that whole battle is just it's not productive for the United States. And that is how I deflected from the conversation. I appreciate that. I was about. I was about to be Brian Stelter? I didn't I didn't want that to be on camera. I mean, I did say I did profit with. It was a difficult. Yesterday's poll, which of the two thousand twenty candidates at CNN townhall thing because the most reasonable again, I feel just those dangerous though. I mean, look at that. I mean, you know in percent again like this is his sorry. Go ahead. For the podcast listeners. Sixty nine percent mayor Pete fifteen percent, Bernie eight percent Kamla and eight percent, Elizabeth Warren. That's interesting. I mean, you know, judge has that vibe a vibe of if can maintain it. Although I did hear him today. Because you know, you're starting to get to the point. Now, we've heard him enough and you start to hear these annoying things. This happens with every candidate with me. But like today, he's like, you know, what when I decided I was going to run for president thirty seven years old or south bend. It was it was well beyond bold. Are you calling your own decision on bold? Who? Other people can say that about you're not supposed to call your own bravery in shine a light on that. It's really you're teaching when Robert Francis said that he his donation his contribution to society was immeasurable immeasurable run for office. But when something is invisible, it is immeasurable. Today's poll should the twenty twenty census include a citizenship question. Interesting question. Let us know what you think the blazes Twitter. What what do you think? So let's see why is a big deal at all. They're like, well, people might not answer. It will be supposed to be measuring. It doesn't you can see. No. And your senses still counts the case against and Josh is the perfect person to talk to this. Because you probably know the details a hell of a lot better than I do. Josh is illegal. I don't think. So I think he might be very steeped in the law. But the idea is well, the constitution says persons. It doesn't say citizens when you're counting people in the census therefore, you shouldn't have this question. But it's like, well, no, I mean like non-citizens are supposed to answer it. They're just supposed to say, no. And I get that. There will be some percentage of people that will not check that box because they're nervous about it or whatever. But I mean, that's probably the case. Anyway, now without the citizenship question. Right. Like, you know, if you're illegal immigrant, you probably I want to turn this four the government, right? Like, of course, not exactly waiting people who might be inclined to lie or misrepresented cells from as me in the first place. It's just not a very compelling argument against this. The government has a very compelling interest. Understanding why citizenship ought to be there. I mean, they should know not as many how many persons were in there. No matter what the constitutional tech says, there are all sorts of federal government programs that depend not just on persons, but on the number of citizens, and it's a perfectly reasonable thing for the government to want to know, my big thing about this case is I can't for the life of me understand how he got the point where this case is even in the federal judicial system. This really is not a traditional issue in my mind. This is a purely political issue. I can't think of a single it against who ought to have proper standing under article through the constitution to actually bring this lawsuit. Daniel Horowitz, blaze me, talk about this all the time. This this never been the federal court system. Okay. It really probably five four decision is just frightening to say the least, but with Roberts who knows which way that fight for these days. I don't even know. All right. Let us know which at the blazes Twitter that is at the blaze. Josh thanks for coming. Back pleasure to be here. 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1: Sex Tapes & First Dates

The TryPod

56:53 min | 2 years ago

1: Sex Tapes & First Dates

"The bramble. Welcome to the tripod. We are the try guys. This is episode one who we're four best friends who try stuff we have a YouTube channel. Together, we happen to live particularly insane lives, especially right now. And so this podcast a chance for us to hang out every week talk catch up and just let you know what we're thinking about in the past. We've tried stuff like dog sledding on a glacier and our helicopter broke down. And we almost got trapped there. Yeah. See them the video not and they were going to watch this video too at the same time. Well, they'll pick and choose they'll be watching or they'll just loaded up in YouTube in listen to that's what I would do. I honestly I'd probably go to the podcast or drop on by the podcast or okay, S, grab a bagel while you're out. I just love being at the podcast store because you know, it's yes, you could shop online but being able to really touch and smell and feel Todd. And there's all the add-ons like you can pick up, you know, some bubble gum. You can get like, you know, Jimmy locks with that podcast. And there's nothing worse than getting a podcast and getting home and realizing it's not ripe yet. You know? You gotta do the touch tatty the touch tests, and we're going to allow you to touch our podcast right now are definitely not right? I guess just this once since this is our first episode, maybe we should do a roll-call because we have like these. So everybody say your name and one interesting fact about you know, this. My mining. I sound like this. And when I was ten I taught myself to juggle watching an episode of full house where they apt in a garage and Jesse puts on a circus for Stephanie, and he juggles and in that moment, I was able to understand the pattern of juggling and I picked up three balled up socks and started to juggle. You're such a freak nature when I learn about your your childhood. That's crazy. Keith was that kid that just entertained himself? And like, you built a mini golf course. Yeah. For your birthday. Yeah. That's crazy. The imagined that back then at Ampex was super going to be part of this admission scandal. Imagine back then that anyone would do that. I mean, the things you could do with half them half a million dollars. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to remember if I had a crush on an Becky as a kid, everyone, happy rush on Becky crush. Crush married. Becky. How well watch out when you guys have kids and go to college don't know what becky's look making sure my child gets into the best institution at whatever cost. I didn't know there's another way who was your number one childhood TV crush, girl or boy. I don't care if we don't for me. We're not here. Alex mack. O? Alex Mack is big. Yeah. I seen. She's an ink. In the first episode. Thank God for anybody. Right. Definitely. Yeah. You know, when I moved out to LA, I saw two panga bumper sticker not realizing to panga canyon was thing. Mike, man. This dude loves boy meets world for me is Lois lane and smallville. Oh, Kristen crook I know. That's Lana Lang, I dunno. She's she's hot to know like season three. Oh, you're my lowest lay Lana Christian Kirk was way that childhood or was that like young teen hood for you young teen headcount hood, you know, I don't I didn't know what girls were in childhood through big one for me summer Sanders host to figure it out. Yeah. A former Olympian guess watch figure it out. Yes. No. It was a net. Loading. I think we actually should provide that show. I was going to turn this podcast in to an episode of figure it out. I think that was a really good kids game show. You agree. I had vivid fantasies of being on that show. You can imagine the react brothers bringing that to life with their casts IBM. Like, I think that the react brothers the fine brothers with react. And the react stat knew what you man, you know, the react breath really is perfect show for them to produce. And we edit out the suggestion where we tell them to make it. Oh, by the way, joining us today and always is miles Bonsignore, a our internet digital Butler and podcast gremlin. Hey, what's up, darling? So we call you up podcast conciliaory like that. It's very God. Oh, he can help the godfather kill everybody. Yeah. I thought he was the guy that that approved your stamps. He also did that for the godfather childhood crush was Larry the lobster from SpongeBob. He was he, you know, he's built wall. He was always so friendly. He wasn't like a dick. He was the Jack in bikini bottom. But he was always there to help degrade point. You know, his first episode. You wanted to hate him. And yet just could Squidward the dick. Sure. Yeah. Hit with. That's good. Relax. All right. Let's keep this roll-call going Zine. What's your seventy? What's? This is like first day of camper school. Why are you doing this morning Campo to go to me last? I have to think of an interesting fact. Okay, ned. Hey, everybody. I'm ned. I sound like this. I'm from Jacksonville. Florida. Home of Jaguars can't say Bortles anymore because he got fired balls. My fun fact is I was a chemistry major, and the reason that I would became that. In wanted to study, the wonderful signs of chemistry is because I'm a secret pyromaniac, or at least I certainly was as a teenager and actually so much. So that I almost got kicked out of my boy scout troop for lighting stuff on fire. The camping side were you like the kid that would like spray hairspray on your floor, and then laid on fire and watch it do you wear better than that make like flame thrower, teaching Hct. Hairspray. You can light a match and put like bug spray in front of it. And just goes. Were you you were match kit or later kid matches. I didn't I didn't have no smokers in my family. No access to lighters. They won't sell you that at a gas station. And that's how you get into Yale being interested in combustion, you hear that aunt Becky. Should've just given your kids some matches. She would have learnt is that what's your interesting fact, my name is. Hi, hello. This is my Sonera's voice. My fun. Fact, I'll maybe I'll tell you the full story on in the same week in seventh grade. I almost lost a testicle, and I was on Saturday Night Live this week same week related. No who is the host. So I actually was on SNL the week before and during the Saturday night run through they cut our sketch. And that week was Al Sharpton, Reverend Al Sharpton was the host gearing up for his presidential election and Paris Hilton fresh off her sex tape was the special guest, and she was in too sketchy racy of SNL. Yeah. Yeah. Big time. I mean, she was the biggest thing in the world at that point. It was like a life. Yeah. I think it was before simple life that his hot hot. It was. I think she just on the sex tape at that point. And all me and the other thirteen year old boys were so excited to see her even though I had not seen this state that was back when when she was taking selfish she had to turn an actual like camera around. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Zanthosyn selfish. She claims she too. But I think the selfie was clearly invented by whoever did the first self portrait on camera in like the late eighteen hundreds Van Gogh. Actually to shave perhaps it was an artist. Yeah. Yeah. So the sketch was wake up Wakefield, which is Rachel Trach, and my Rudolph as high schoolers so I love that sketch, but parents Hilton was not a very good actress at the time, so they cut the sketch in favor of another one where she just had to sit there and let Jimmy Fallon make jokes about her. You were in that sketch, and you were onic act of carrying elevated the entire scene. I was a background actor I held an instrument and occasionally went. Yeah. But the next week fun. They brought the sketch back after my whole testicle fiasco and Elijah wood right before the first Lord of the rings came out with and that time at aired right before our world's changed forever. Seriously. Your vision of him must have been so different after Lord of the rings. Oh, big time. I didn't really know who he was. But I I was excited for the rings. I'd read the books, and I was I was an for it. Can I tell you? I've actually weirdly he is the celebrity I've run into most in life like. There was a couple of we call it celeb-. Oh, Cassie actually the official term here at the tripod is celebrity. Does number one so Lebo citing? But I like there was a there was a three year period where I ran into him like five times and to the point where like I kind of made eye contact with him. And he was like I'm like, I'm not even going to say hi because I've said Hello. I've seen you so often probably you were a distant road old news. He's introduced me to his mother. I've met his brother two different time. Like now, we've we've caught up twice. I mean caught up. I was like, hey, man. I don't know if you remember me, but I was on that episode. And he's like, oh, cool. But several times it's it's getting weird. Evidently, don't remember me huge movie star. But this one time when I was a child. I held on this rahmael mind you behind you. And I was a child that's the saddest claim to fame incident anyone could ever go. If someone comes to this level and said that that's just the saddest thing. I would ever hear event where he DJ once like I cannot escape Elijah wood. Really, it seems like it's getting to be a hardship for you is it. Yeah. It's a real burden. You guys think I could release a sex tape and the same. Just thinking about it because it seems like that sex tapes, typically make you super fucking rich and famous. Yeah. It seems to fucking work. I guess you may be I think as active cold a shift is there's a difference now post. It's like a good thing. I think it's bad now. I think it's being bad. Yeah. Because I think with the me too movement in the digital age like before it was like leaked by PR. Or when it came out. They could spin it in a certain way. But now, everyone, you know, I think now it's considered more than invasion of of privacy. What if I may I say Hello? My name is Keith. This is my second. Hey. You you make it. He's not like so tell me the most recent sex tape that made someone famous Jim credit ashen, and she's like, oh that was. Bygone bilionaire. I'm talking about like post post two thousand ten twelve and move Tommy Lee. All right listeners. You here is if you've got a sex tape, and you're famous Aleppo drop it. So that Keith can follow in your step. You're right. You, gene? All of the recent celebrity nude things that I can think would have been in the hacking, and obviously fucked up and. Some undoing the night vision. I'm going to have fog. Yeah. It's gonna set. Yeah. It's going to be set obscure tonight, vulgar, you want us to be like a little bit sense yet. Can I give you a piece of advice? You cannot be the one who sets up the camera. It needs to be I guess in this imaginary world, it's your your wife. Becky who's may. Now, I'm uncomfortable thinking about this as a real thing, but she has to be the one. She has to be the one that sets up the camera that way, it's clear that that she's spying on you not use spying on her because a self promotional sex saving. Yes. He should do like a little blog Inchon. Yeah. Hey, what's up? Key from try guys. This is my first sex tape never done sex before a little nervous, sex tapes. Yeah. Anyways, Becky is about to come in the room. She's super on board. It's like awesome. But you know, I be enjoying do one. And then I have like pre thoughts and post thoughts that are woven in really, well, I have an expert. I interview somebody about their sex. No, I need to do to become famous. I do know based on. I think it will be the best edited sex tape ever. Oh, yeah. You can edit this tape. We're talking about you should just wash it all the way through the moment. No, no, no. I'm gonna I'm gonna are you going to make a production. I'd have to edit about twenty sessions to make it look. So it attains the audience's interest. So right when I was first dating, my lovely wife Ariel. Where's this going going after? It hasn't funny. Andy, we decided we've decide we're in France. And we're like, oh, we're on this crazy vacation, let's make a sex tape. And so we started filming it weighing what? Thirty seconds. And we like to it's all set up. We like start embracing each other and the camera runs out of battery that was probably the happiest momentous thing thing that good have happened in retrospect what because there's a lot people out there who film themselves having sex and they play it back while they have sex with other people. Huge billy. It's. Yeah. So it's like my sex. It's like the height of narcissism, but it's kinda hot right? It's an natural. Segue into Eugene's, fun fact. Oh, yeah. All my sex tapes. I'm Eugene Li Yang. Okay. When I was a kid, and I was bullied a lot. I used to make voodoo dolls at a plano, and I would try to find the coolest ways to sort of Merck. My bullies. And the most epic was when I would go onto the highway that was near my house, and I would spread my bullies Plato dummies across the highway, and then I would film them getting run. My semis. And I would be laughing in the bushes. This little kid little Asian kid in Texas. So sad. I wish we could get that footage yellow it somewhere. You know, back old camcorder? Should we be concerned that as a child you were running into the middle of a highway, and and you know, placing toys highway highway wasn't a little too Lehner. It was a highway is like it was like four four Lehner not like it was like a country highway. Don't you? I don't know what that is county road. You know when you live not Yankee us. Yeah. It's like when the highways become more like between rural like. That's like the speed limit still seventy five, but there's not a lot of not enough cars. There's on cars where kid couldn't run across them. Put down Plato. You know, I'm actually I'm going to experience highways like that for the first time because the day that we are announcing this podcast or the day that we're releasing this podcast. We just announced our nationwide tour. Oh my God. York city. We don't know that that's not you. Oh, you better. Get your tickets. Now, it's all just missed Oregon. It's not going. No. We don't have the Pacific northwest. It's not it's not an people should know. We don't get to decide the city's it's based on like typical tour pads that people take a whole different. Yeah. Just hang because it's it's not just Inc tour. We're going to have a tour bus. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we're gonna have a big ass bus as gonna go from city to city, and I guess it would be hard to go all the way up to Seattle and all the way back. I question I've been asked by every single person. I I'm tell I've told that we're going on tour is are you going to wrap your bus? Is it gonna say the try guys around? No, we got. I got. Yeah. Yeah. I was I was talking to Rosanna pen Sinoe the light Heine person, rob souls, you so little she's this. Oh, little even with heels she's tiny. But she's very very sweet. And she told us from her tour. She wrapped her her bus because she thought she should don't do it. Because you can't slide the doors and windows open when someone related Yuki in the bathroom. She was like you guys are probably find cause. We didn't really poop that often. Oh, actually, it's out dry guys are about poop. Yeah. Yeah. Well, not anymore. It seems like when we're traveling. They are because we're we're living doing food video. So saying traveling really sends your gut for a whirlwind. You know, that's the phrase, right? Sending your gut for the for a world. Well, we're gonna have a stretch of seven days where we're not going to see a hotel room. We have seven shows in seven days, which is kind of insane. So yeah, we're just going to be sleeping on the tour bus. We're going to wake up in a new city, and it's it's gonna be a real real journey bed like bungs, right? Yeah. Sleeping in it. I'm so excited about that me too excited about it. I'm only nervous because I know that you is going to be able to stand look at me sleeping. Okay. We don't need to bring that up to watch people sleep. I don't love it. How do you love something? When you just naturally do it. You know, it's like you. You're going to be the type of person that you're like, I I want the top bunk do. Hi, tom. It has a str-. Then you're going to follow. I actually I would like the bottom bunk. Top bunks. Have we not discussing are you three bottoms in life. Obviously, I want the top bunk but on a fucking bus. I want the bottom because you don't want to be asked by the top bunk. When it crashes down. Actually, I believe that there is one big bed in the back. And I believe I will be sharing that probably with Keith. I have a bad back, and he has a freakishly spicy. I do want to see if I even fit in that bunk bed situation. I don't I don't understand the preference for top bunks to meet top bunks. Our total and utter bullshit. Whoa. Wants to climb a fucking ladder to sleep. Or when you wake up in the middle of the night. So many bunk stories, I'm realizing. Yeah. I have to jump into mind one. When I was a kid. Okay. I'll start with this. When I went to sleep away camp as a kid. I didn't. I hated making my bed. I despised it. And you guys didn't go to sleep way camp, right? Like doing week sleep away camps count. I went to Jewish Lakeway camp, which is like four or eight weeks aging. Parents yet the fuck outta here. Let us have a fun summer without you you'll you'll do any flames. Those though we did it because we're trapped on this and his bunk. But I hate it. You had to make your bed. Before you're allowed to go get breakfast. I'm like, this is so stupid. I'm just going to get back in my bed. So I came up with a hack. This was when I was like what I was super young I slept in eleven sleep. When the first day, I made my bed made it so tight every day there after I slept in a sleeping bag because unlike I don't have to make my bed, I'm sleeping in a sleeping bag. I didn't think about like germs at that point. So I was just sleeping in one watch sleeping bag for four weeks. It is now also probably just looked so stupid. I did look so one nice like military Jewish summer camp. I thought it was about the arts about having fun like sow make your bed before you have eggs. I did end up going to an art went after. But also, but came to the same. They're all like love that that this weaning art one. This was like a military one, no, silver, sports sports. Yeah. Sports and then transferred to the artsy. One. Are you? Are you? I worked at one. Yeah. So I I was the person who had to make the children clean every shore real every morning at wait. Listen this. So my sleeping bag was longer than my bed a child's bed and so one night in the middle of the night, the excess sleeping bag fell off the bed and the weight of it started pulling down pulling down and I woke up in freefall, the weight of the sleeping bags hold me off just woke up. And felt like I was falling for an eternity. And then boom and the back of my head smack the floor and the rest of the kids just kind of heard like, boom. Oh. I love the sleeping bag on the bed. Like, I'm making my bed every day. I don't care top bunker bottom bunk top on. That's why you don't want the top bunk because sometimes you might die lake case for the top bunk and try to avoid like, ooh. Ooh. That'd be top type of stuff. Okay. He wasn't guy. Yeah. It's make gay rights when you're on the bottom. You can kick the bed on top you making your real power bottom, which I love I don't like I don't like straight culture has now decided that they can talk about tops and butter. Okay. I just knew AS. You go there, and I wanted to head off because I wanna I wanna I wanna actually talk about bed. Now. It's okay to culture is culture. Shifting Stricker's are now like I'm like power about them. And you have no idea would that mean study does it work the same way with slang were once straight people start talking about tops and bottoms gay people. Like, we don't do that anymore. We just doc. Oh, I told you what that was. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what that is the funniest funny? Yeah. I'll tell you after. Space station. Trying to connect the alien ship. That's banned with the spaceship. We have two miles. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. You've seen a picture. Picture. Yeah. I agree. I one time when I was like what's that? It was alarming. We don't need to explain anyway for the top top bunks. I it clearly is not a safety case. I think it's just out of pride out of the thrill of being the kid who has the feeling that. It's like getting the front seats like getting shot. So it is about being a top. Yeah. Emotionally, spiritually. Yeah. Yeah. So I still have at your like king of the world when you're up there, of course. And if there's an earthquake, and if the the bunk bed is not stable, you would smash your friend. God I thought about that all the two. Yeah. Being on the bottom bunk is terrifying. I was convinced that it would crush me. Busy freaks and you hear it. But what actually happened to you? You fell out dunk woke up and free foul as and potentially have an undiagnosed concussion wants a lava lamp fell on my head, and I feel like I got an undiagnosed concussion. How how does a lot was it turned on was it ho thank God. I would have burned on a top shelf. And I was like getting I was reaching out. You know, when you're lazy in bed and you're trying to like reach. But you. You should just get out of bed and walk over. And instead you reach like a goon room. Did you reach with your foot triangle? No, I laid off my bed with my torso dangling off as I was reaching to open a drawer that had something in it like my GameBoy. And as I yeah. And as I hold the door open. I didn't realize that it had snagged the cable of the lava lamp that was on the top of the shelf, and I opened it. And I as I was reaching for my game. Boy, I just get like three whacked with a heavy glass. Lot on the back of my head. And I don't really know what has happened in that moment. I'm just like all. Hit you in the back of the head. You. Very good. Same late limp. There. Lava? Then I like laid for another like minute like me like a head alive, and my okay. And I touched the back of my head. And there was a big bump them like, no blood. No blood. Thank god. There's nobody didn't break the skin. But I was like, wow. Oh, boy, what would have been cool is if your skin broke and the lava lamp broke and the lava lamp went into your bloodstream, and you've you became a slight here. I'll say is called lava lamp that's good too. What a lava lamp style. Your power is if you touch an outlet, you Golo and bubbles. Hertie vomited looked like lava lamp bubbles absurd. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. You're selling short. I think superhero be cool. You could your body could become that coup like, Alex Mack, and you can shoot hot goo people. Right. Maybe it's not even hot. Maybe. It's just do people psychedelics. Yeah. Just funky. Visual LSD? I feel like the hero would be named lava lands. We've taken it too far. I just remembered the time that I woke up in my bed was on fire. Wait what I had one of those electric blanket plugging stuff next to your bed. Yeah. That's exactly what happened this is horrifying. Yeah. It was probably one of those things are you? I don't know. I it's a very very hazy memory young my bed being on fire. And it wasn't like the whole bed was aflame. It was just woke up and there was a fire. There was a small fire at my feet, and I screamed and my dad came in and oh my God. I haven't been out added it out now speaking as a outed pyromaniac, I'm not into that. Well, you don't want to fire based on these stories net. I think you'll have to take the other top rank. It is. They're so clumsy. Ready on about them buying bad. Yeah. We're hearing that grin the master suite. Master suite on it. I think there is a faster sweetie for like a single. There's like eight bunkbeds we'll have to see we haven't actually bought our bus yet. I can't believe we brought up sex tapes and docking in the first episode. Twelve year old boys. This is it. All right. All right. It's interesting. You. You know, gay culture, we see any straight man, and we can mealy tell if they're top or bottom averse. Bottom isn't bad. That's the thing. A lot of people. You're about him. Like, no, there's a huge amount of people who bought them all the time. But it's more just the energy, right? Yeah. 'cause you'd be like, oh, this dude is for sure top. And it's like, nah. All right. Well, hit us you want to right now. I yeah, you're not meeting that in the. Meaning that in the cast. All right. We gotta save him back next week. Come back. Subscribe on wherever you subscribe to find out. Maybe once a week, you'll tell us here's a top and bottom tease it out over the course of locale start with Zach. Then both episode t's really him. He's gonna tell you. Okay. Well. Okay. Here we go. All right. Some agendas from near miles watery. What what are we doing today? Well, boys today's first episode. So I'm like our Bosley. A thank you so much. I'm going to ask us Charlie's angels. But they're four of us. So one of us has to go, please continue possibly well, boys. It's your first podcast episode released to the public. So I'm gonna be asking you some first question. So new listeners and get to know you. Date. Wait, I eight questions like, yeah. Put a list together to ask your first date. So weird as someone who was hopelessly dating for a long time. I can tell you that you you start to doubt yourself. And so you start googling things like what the fuck am. I supposed to talk about on this thing. Yeah. I've definitely Google some of these before. And then they're like, oh, these are all horrible googled Gould, like what to ask on the first date, and there were different tiers. It was like okay before the meal gets, okay. And then after the meal gets their loved you guys have all been like date two or three. And you're like fuck I think I'm out of things to it's like before like, natural charisma and like your. Before your natural like a way of being together takes over you just like run out of things to talk about imagine this. We're all sitting down dinner. Well, look, very pretty what was the appetizer. We had with Sabi dumpling masonic soon. It didn't go. Well. Just a dumpling. It's a fusion restaurant. It's. My friend told me about peas are mostly Pease was Sabi dumplings are all new. It's new okay. So we're crying from the exorbitant amount. West side, we've been eating twenty five dollars news fake sensitive. What's your major? I I was originally a French horn performance major. And then I switched to be a theater major like a week before college started a French being a French horn major what does that entail? What is it like a French horn major Forman's may visit like the history of French horn French horn technique, like how many fucking French-owned classes knows it's a general music performance path. So you do learn music theory. You learn other like music classes, but in general, the whole time, you're there you're supposed to be studying to be a really good French horn players you can leave enjoy the Chicago Symphony Orchestra as horn. How many job openings would you say? I actually looked because there as I thought about could I complete if market back into French horn well enough to like try I thought about making a video where I take a month to train back up. And then I'll dish in for a place where I could to be in their seventies. That'd be so rude of you in this limited job market to take. I've heard of you. I would not yet. I don't think I get in. But you have to prepare so much like dense literature. And then there is the big posting of the jobs. I mean, we're going on at twenty tour you gotta figure each twenty though cities has a Symphony Orchestra SAS. Well, you have to French horn players per orchestra Oregon needed five war based on the crazy show that we're planning we're probably gonna need at least three French horn player show. Yeah. That's a couple of freelance. So you we're going to have a thirty minute French horn break. It just meet practicing. Your little limousine metal stands by the end. Children. You cannot leave your seats. Yeah. This is a first date question for college students like I don't know they've talked about my major like in like when I meet someone. It's really about your major comes up all the time. I know I mentioned it earlier on his. I like when I fired eighty. Tell us. Well, I was a chemistry. Major. I went to college thinking I wanted to study engineering, and I fell in love with a chemistry work that a Cam lab. My freshman summer a basement laser spectroscopy lab doing physical chemistry, and I figured hey, I can do comedy with a science degree. But I might not be able to do science with comedy degree. So I- formerly studied science while I was doing night shows at a second city, and I o and Chicago. Nerd your words are hurt. This is exactly what causes people to think. They have to pay a lot of money to get into it next to be fair. We're all total nerd. Yeah. Especially based on our majors. But it when he says that like that about me it's in a way where he thinks the things that he's nerdy. About is cool. But he doesn't think the things that. I'm nerdy. About is cool actually to be honest. I'm very jealous. I I'm I was a late to life-science lover. I just had she science teachers. But I love biology. I've always sure blame it on the. Come on. I mean, we'll Insein your year. I had a big impact senior year of high school. I basically had enough credits for the college. I was looking at I didn't have to take a science class. I'm like yet dope. I'm not going to take that. And I regret it like I chemistry. You know, why because chemistry in high school is so math based and I'm like, this is just a fucking secret math class. I don't want to do this whereas conceptual chemistry. So fascinating. I also like the the math. It is mostly math. I hate math. But it is one of the ones you have to get through to get to the maths. A lot of math. And it's enough math. The most math out of the basic instances. No physics is the most math chemistry right there. Shown where you. A bit theory. Little math is the best of both worlds. I took like in college. I took an evolutionary biology class, and that was just like theory and low. Just about. Fucking each other. We took a one class on Evelyn which was fascinating does he came about how evolution can teach us about human behavior. And in the second half of the year was about morality learning taking what you learned about evolution and how we got here. And how does that impact your understanding of morality fascinating? That's cool. I took the exact same class in college. I wonder if all classes teach some sort of an evolutionary biology like teaching kids about animals, and then teaching them what that means about being human. I kept I kept all my books and all my writing in over thanksgiving. I found him a big box of like all my college learning, and I underlined as I read that's how I process information. And I I'm gonna I'm slowly going back through the books to see if I can be as smart as I was in college. I've lost much martyr as a child I feel. Yeah. Absolutely dark getting dumb like twenty eight. Yeah. Before age twenty four my when I think about some of the math class, I took in college. I it's like it's like a black hole like I took linear algebra differential equations, multi variable. Calculus turn off the podcast and. If you ask me, what's the deal with each of those things, I would struggle to come up with even like, the most basic. Deal with linear algebra. Line some matrices. Well, that's so interesting. I guess are Andre is here. Oh my gosh. What are we getting the horseradish state? Wow. A pot roast Pat sticker. Jumping. It's new that actually sounds bad bad restaurant. If you were to win the lottery, what's the first thing you'd by how much money did? I win is it is it the mega million mates. Mega millions millions myth like four hundred and eighty million dollars yet like a hundred million dollars. Well, first thing I do is pay my taxes like a good American. They take a lot out of it. When you lost. It's just Bom. I would probably try and keep a secret. You know, there's all those stories. Ruins people's lives. Ooh. I would buy I would buy a school. I would start a college. It's. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a lovely idea. I'd actually if I were to do that. I would start a not a college like a like an elementary school like a really or middle school something for like my and my TA's can go to your middle school in elementary school to teach to learn to teach college. What's your Lhasa Viet, Keith college? What separates you from the other universities rely on the sex tape. It's like everybody there's going to learn a really good. Text also like a mandatory class. I learn how to make the next day. It's a good idea. I'm alexander. I'm a road scholar, and I have sex. Everybody had a sex tape. Everybody could be rich and famous stuff because at a certain point in your life, your answers, become incredibly boring. Yeah. Because there's a very practical answers to what you would do with that much money now. And then the cool answers are when I'm like, yeah. What what my eighteen year old self? Thank very different my answers, like not funny. But I would like, okay. First thing clean water for Flint, and then just like donate to the environment and done. Well, I would like make my own foundation. Yeah. Like the Bill Melinda Gates Foundation. See those foundations and stuff. That's kind of like the second thought. I think we need to go. With those is the spending. What's are like stupid fun money? What's your money Wednesday a plane rights Keith in the sky every major city in the world? Everyone's day every major city. Run out of. I think I would fulfill a dream that I put out the Twitter like a few years ago that was a stupid tweet. But I treated the city of Eugene, Oregon, and I asked them about this proposal ahead where it was a festival of Eugene's the Eugene's unite festival with an e e u t we fly out every Eugene that exists to Jean Oregon, so see genes in Eugene and the requirement is if you gene you wear blue jeans, everyone's in blue jeans and Eugene who's Eugene, and then jeans in Eugeniusz, and genie's are also welcome. But they have different types of denim. They were yeah. You know, I think not a bad idea. Movin by think. We could do it. Yeah. Right now. I don't think we need to be billionaires. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. I mean. I've been talking to the city. They said, yes, I've been talking to their like city planning people, and they're like, oh you to submit this application, and so I've been you know, back and forth with them about the realities of they said that they can make it happen. Get talked to gap to get a bunch of. That's bright bright. Anyway, that's that's probably the dumbest thing I would spend money on that does a line with a dream that I've had where I've always I want to just throw my own concert or slash festival. Like a music festival, and I just want to curate the lineup would be your headliner at this moment in time. Oh vampire we empire weekend. Yeah. But if I could Gani, but actually there's a music festival. There's a mean going around of people saying this is like Zach Chela or whatever they put their lineup of their favorite groups, the top three headliners. What are your talking, by the way? I know I'm good at these. I was raining. I eight miles in your who Sabi. I'm having fun. I know it's all news by now. But I just watched the beyond say Coachella documentary conflicts. And oh my God. It is exhaustingly exhilarating. The maybe you off. The. Shows or two words that are very different. No, I think it's so exciting infield drain on like, oh my God. Because I watched it live, and you were there live Eugene. I was like next cannot believe still just my jaw drops to the floor that she was able to pull it off. And it's a rare she like shows her vulnerability in that like in the beginning of it. She was coming off a pregnancy. She had to like get back into beyond say shape, and like, oh, it's unbelievable because that's just such a flawless performance. So that's your top two where we can. That's a cool. Honestly, I don't think I could afford to anyone else. Arcade fire, and what's your three the Keith festival Radiohead? Good answer. It's so hard to choose so quick guerrillas. Oh my God. Have you seen that list? No, one of the that's what I hear and probably somebody like like. The beatles. Provide them the white walkers come down and touch raves and raise the zombie Beatles. What the ones that are still alive? Mine would be foo fighters. God, David Guetta and Arianna Guerande hard pass. What? Wow. People don't go. Everybody a little something for everybody. I would've said red hot chili peppers. Instead, maybe get about I wanna like fuel the. Like, what does he marry top level EDM, David get us? Do they get it? Every hit song from two thousand eight thousand fourteen DJ that's elevated. Giving you tracks. Uh? I don't know don't know any of them thinking about this with the, you know, you'd know him. If you heard him, I was thinking this with us going. David Guetta, baby. This is what you came for. I like him. He also did the Nikki Manashe feature. It's always the guest artists who your great original. Didn't do all the heat is. He was all the original SIA features. When was. Titanium? I love that one. So he's not wanted to call unlimited Mike. That's not the right one. I was about this with us going on tour. Do you guys? Remember, what is your first concert? Mine was Justin Timberlake, didn't go to concert until I was like twenty really mine was lollapalooza that was the first concert. I went to really because that's an easy one to get to. Yeah. I just my parents didn't they only want you grew up going to concerts. Yes. Yeah. Your dad. I would. Every fan expensive. I know one of my earliest memories is being at a Billy Joel and Elton John concert and falling asleep to Kenya. Feel the left tonight. Must be nice nice. A lovely memory is also the first time I had grape soda a wild day for me fire. That's one of my. I think I would have beyond say BT s and the transit Buren orchestra. My second memory in life is being at a Metallica concert, and they traveled with a philharmonic. Yeah. And it was like orcas. But I love the translate beer. An orchestra was told I stay next to speakers. And I had these big baby headphones that babies word and not break their little heads. Yeah. I have some for. Yeah. You gotta you gotta have the baby headphones. I was told don't take these off. No matter what you do. And I just a second. My dad turned away. I took them off and every sound ever produced flooded into my tiny baby skull, and that's why you can't hear any can't hear shit. Yeah. I have to turn the TV up way loud. So Eugene you mentioned beats yes. And this is the most dad thing ever. But I saw those boys on Saturday Night Live recently. And I watched a bunch of the music videos, and I was like, okay, they're fun. But I don't really understand why everyone is open about them as a phantom, but seeing them do a live performance. They're such good dancers and men area. Where like I think we just joined the army like we we were who's main? I don't know any of them. Tell you which one I like Hami area like someone with red hair. I like the one with white hair that will change every single album. Okay. All right. Need to get to know them really relying on the hair color to get to tell me who. And then they just know that up any new EP everyone's hair coat color changes. Well, it looks like dessert is here. We have a Mungul sore bet. Are you paying date or the server I also work here? Oh, okay. Just heard about from your friend. Yeah. Working right now. Oh. If you could only watch one movie for the rest of your life. What would it be drastic park Star Wars? Lord of the rings, the two towers. I'm siding with you. Gene here drastic park. Well, next question. We all Email opened up just like the black hole of conversation. You ask me an Eugene to talk about traffic party the next hour. One also exposed again are super nerd them. Ma or us dinosaurs space opera fantasy the holy trifecta. Nerds. And we like it because it secretly a horror movie we've talked about. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I it ever to me. I was like this. That's a scary me. I didn't watch. 'cause too scary. Scary scary. That's the one movie as a kid that was like you had to turn it off. Because it was too scary. Oh, yeah. I started watching my brothers were watching it. And it was terrifying. I was like all my God. This is so scary. Oh my God. That movies is it so scary. I think because it all takes place during the day too. Right. It's like where you think you're safe and he's attacking children. Sure, I'm going to be real with you. I do not like scary movies. So I had to turn off wwl Toyland show. Trouble american. This. That's good. I don't I like scary movies a lot, and I wasn't really scared of certain movies. I was scared of certain parts of movies like certain parts of movies would give me nightmares. Yeah. Like during in who framed Roger rabbit when you finally see his is the villains is nightmares later. And then I like, America nationally. Like their aunt gets trapped in a mirror forever. That's a really scary. I think Keith, and I did the same thing in college. I've bought twelve Mary Kate. Nash Levy, H tapes for ten dollars on EBay, and I had a whole collection because I had a VN afford not to buy exactly and then in my going away party when I moved to LA I put each VHS out. And I brought friends in one by one and gifted them, a VHS tape based on our friendship. Goble toil and trouble was the hot commodity like six or seven as well. But about from a thrift store because I had a combo TV VCR. Remember, those when the TV you bought a TV, and it had a VCR. Oh, yeah. With the TV, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had that that was my TV in college. And of course, like everything was obviously a DVD player. But and have that. So I buy jesse's, and we watch the Mary Kay nationally seep over party. Show funny all the time. We love our brother. But this is a line. They both say in unison, and like they do it in unison. We love our brother, but just like the line is for them to get cut off. But obviously the other child actor doesn't. This very awkward block. Wait. It's so good. I had a VHS DVD like one of those combo players. Right. Where did both like, oh, yeah. We're in that transitional phase. But on the way up to college. I went over a big bump, and the DVD that was in there got got jammed, and it got stuck. And so it was just a VHS slash Josie. And the pussycats player was the only DVD so through college. I watched that movie probably four thousand times. No, it's awesome. That's a very large number. It's yeah. Yeah. That means you watched it every day. I just kept it looping. Seems like you should change your answer from drastic park. Yeah. I actually chosen the pussycats. That's the movie I could watch forever and never what a fun. I pod cast. Yeah. Everybody look at your says, oh, there's about seven minutes left. We're winding down you're about to pull into that WalMart parking lot. And you were thinking about turning it off. Maybe you're just going to sit in your car and listen to the end because sometimes in life, you just don't know what you're about to do next. And you need a little advice. Then when you need advice, you turn to a man a man known for advice, and this next segment, we let miles the youngest and least experienced of us give some sage wisdom. Please enjoy. This is advice that will go for miles with your host, miles bones. What's up my little babies? Are we the babies or the listeners the base listeners are the baby listeners, right? Yeah. Have you ever wanted to be a clean little baby? Boy. We'll buy what what how do we be come liquid clean little baby, boys? Have you ever wanted your skin to shine? Yeah. I have us loofah. Yeah. I'm on board. Now. I know what you're thinking. My hand will do just fine. It will not do just fine. The loofah is going to fully your skin. Now. I know what you're thinking. Soap is fine. Not also some soap is bad for you. If show buzz alcohol, and it's bad for your skin, you need to be using some sort of organic soap on loofah and using the loofah on your skin, you will be feeling moist and clean. Well, yeah, cool. Yeah. Good advice. Lupus were became gendered. It's it's one that did they were known when we're going up as a. You would go to see a shower of your female friend. And you'd be like, whoa. There's a loofah in there. It was. I mean, we really in cleans for your time. Though. Yeah. Every everyone should have. But also change it frequently. Yes, how do you throw away your loofah? I have never thrown away. Are you a clean baby boring? Here rubbing your dead skin and bacteria back onto yours. How often should I once a month? For. It stays together. It's fine. It's not like totally loose and ridiculous. How old is this loofah mile Kate realistically Lewis probably a year old? Okay. You gotta throw it literally go. We're going to give you a lunch break today. Go by normally I don't get. Well, it's just that we Lear over you and make you eat, and we watch weight, we know how. Know how advice by? Really the thorny Lou loofah. People know this when we were at BuzzFeed prior to this new company and new channel when we were Busby. We nearly days I made some of those old fact videos and like talking about y'all did. Yeah. Let's suppose. But that was one of the first like fact videos, I did it was like nine things in your house. You have to throw away right now and the loofah it's they grow. They're just they it's moist. It's and it has all these nukes and crannies, which is harvest harvest bacteria and once a month, you got to replace that thing. Remember when you said moist? Yeah, that's a bad weather breeding ground. Oh, okay. I just buy the cheapest ones because those fall apart in about a month. And that's perfect time to get a new one. I actually I by the travel size ones for my tiny body. But it's because like the big ones there it takes so much to wring it out make travel sized loofah. Yes. Like the size of a fist versus size of fist holding a fist. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I want to baseball. You know, how big halls? Fist or like a fist holding maybe three fists of this first date. I really wanna hold hands with you full. What a fun. I pod. Can you really was some good advice there at the end a little misguided? But we got you. We advice circle. Yeah. I guess the baby's advice. We give miles advice. What what is the the sensitive skin soap of your choice? I usually use a bar of whole few whole foods. What the fuck you said you use? I thought. I thought. You're a month. Are you kidding wrong? With you fucking. Paul. It's losing this segment. We thought it was going to be bar of show on the loofah toy get suds E. And then I put it on my body. I will say that using a bar is better for the than using bottles. Yeah. Because it's a piece of plastic or not point using liquid soap, and I've never heard of anyone rubbing a bar onto a loofah. I'm a freak that you're you're like, you're not swayed or not actually. Yeah. When I whenever I do use a loofah I use a bar. I don't like liquid. So. Weird. I can't wait to watch. You guys wash your body's on the tour. We'll have four color-coded lupus it. We'll see who says the most bacteria at the end of the. I should do. That's going to be the one video. We get from the wing. Grossest, who's bacteria duplicates the most in the same party, whoever who's thing is he thrice this after every show they're gonna hang on the same like showerheads with are going to be touching. We gonna shower on the bus. Do you think? Sometimes I think actually, I hope so. We'd shower at the gator are you gonna showers after I'm I'm I'm a morning shower for sheriff can't start my day without it. You guys are you going to get a shower shoes? No. Well, what if you're what if you're in like what if we're showering and like backstage of a venue that we don't know. I don't get grossed out by that. Yeah. I think I'm okay with it to tofu fungus makes me stronger. It makes me I don't think that's true. And it's not true. I yeah. I rarely get sick by that stuff. Okay. Okay. Run around and eat dirt as a child. Hey, my friend was telling me yesterday that you should b barefoot in the grass for five minutes a day to feel the vibration of the earth that sound over our that conversation. What what are some of the things that people can look forward to on the tour? We announced today. Tickets go on sale Friday. Try guys dot com slash tour. They're not on sale yacht in Florida. We're not going to Florida, Florida. Actually that is true Florida is totally sold out picking states. The go-to at twelve pm eastern. That's when all the tickets go on sale, and we're gonna go all around the world. And so what people can look forward to is. It's going to be a kick ass legendary show. It's called legends of the internet. 'cause we're not just going on stage in talking we're going to give you a rock comedy variety musical spectacular thrown. One more word we are going to interactive year faces off it's going to be. Oh, well, that's about the end guy. Just stabbed favor a favor and go on those podcast stores and give us five stars here. Here's what we should do. You should go on there and give us five stars. And then tell us a secret, and we'll look through all your secrets, and we'll tell the best secret on a future episode of the podcast. But you gotta give us five stars. Because we don't have five stars. We'll feel like total fucking losers. And you don't want us to feel like total fucking losers. Do you know, you don't you? Love us. You're about to go into WalMart and buy some cat food. And you get your just waiting until this thing ends. I said seven minutes, I meant twelve. You gotta go on storing give us five stars baby come on. Now. If you're listening to us just on a podcast, then you can see the video feed of this podcast on her new YouTube channel, if you're watching us on the YouTube channel, you can just go listen is instead I will say one thing about the tour say it, no other youtuber has or will ever have a tour like ours. Are we the beyond say Coachella of youtuber tours? No, one is the big Hans Coachella anything BI decides beyond say, but I will say we are we're we're going to deliver on something that you've never seen before from a digital group. There's the version on the store that we could do and it could be easy. And we thought about doing that number like what if we do the craziest thing possible? Like what if we what if there's pyrotechnics, and we're going to have VIP meet-and-greet s- can come chat with so get bags is with us. We'll have free stuff that we're giving out. It's gonna be awesome. Yeah. I can't wait to go cross the world country. Excited to see you guys. And anyway, all right. That's enough. Plug. I kinda put cut you off. But you said pyrotechnics. Yeah. There will be fire. Yeah. Yeah. I will juggle, and we will dock now we won't. Basho please come see. It are also feel like total fucking losers. Alright one of us can dock. He does with the official tripod theme song. It's been great. It's been grand. We'll see you later. This summer is the try until next time. Stay beautiful.

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Chella Man

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Chella Man

"Welcome to the human perspective with internationally recognized bad ass. Disability activists. Judy humid today. Judaism conversation with chela man who is a deaf gender queer trans basketball in chinese and jewish artists model filmmaker and now author you can pre-order his book continuum now chela is always doing so many new and exciting projects. Do definitely have to follow him on social media. The human perspective is produced by me. Becca hal and judy human be shared a rate review and subscribe to the human perspective. So let's roll up. Lay down dance around. Get some snacks. Ready whatever makes you feel best and let our guest today. Welcome back to the human perspective and you can see that challenge are kind of suppressing some laughter Because it's really been an honor for us to get to know each other over the last number of months. And in some way you know we're an intergenerational mix on so many levels and then he's teaching me so much about aspects of life that is happy to learn about so chela. Would you like to introduce yourself. Yes so my name is chairman. I am a twenty two year old theft. Trans new queer asian jewish artists. And i'm unable to be here. And i can say the same to judy about teaching me so much in this. It's been like in honor of privilege to get to know her so becca and stevie work with and We're using really beautiful terms to describe who he is as some of them are beautiful beautiful mind and being and so as i say frequently out you you are in many ways a man before your time and by that i mean you've gone through so many changes in your life at the end by the age of twenty two and it's not just that you've been evolving because we all do but your ability to express that evolution i think is what particularly attracts me too much you you so maybe if we could just step back a little bit and when did your family. I know that you had some form of a hearing loss. Whoa whoa thank you for all for all of that. I feel flattered And i'm probably blushes but i was. That knows when i was four years old and we don't really know it was never clear. Why or how so. It could likely been when i was born. I thought it and they just didn't know because they didn't test me on hearing bathroom. And since then i mean talk a little bit more back your mother and the role. Your mother played in your life overall because she seems to be a very powerful woman. She is a very powerful woman. My mom is. I feel like one of the reasons. I was able to get through everything. Did you know she is a a rock in my support system. She has taken it upon herself to fully educate yourself on disability issues specifically death but the deaf community in all the controversy with like getting in finance and you know learn sign language and just went out of her weight really speak with people who were in that community and not just within to people who were easiest at the people around her as hearing woman it could have been very easy to just know enrolled in speech there. He and not learn sign language for me but she has actively gone out of the way since the moment i was diagnosed with with a hearing loss to assess all options possible and i will always be grateful for that. So what were the options that she started at laying out there for you when you were young so brace brace option was i had this in kindergarten actually. I had the super clunky late giant speaker that i'd have to carry around on my desk. You know and of course i had to give all the teachers my fm system and You know learn how to advocate for myself. Starting with you know can do biden. And of course like the kids would make fun of that in the white yellen to the f. n. system not take it seriously or respectfully but that was one of the first conversations. I had that was really like my first realization. That you know like my. Life's the way i go about. Light will be a little different than it's in addition to that hearing aids you know. Since the beginning i was very resistant. Very stubborn I always have been but after a while. I i realized that. I wanted and this is the one thing that i always appreciate about my mama's well she would always wait until i can send to you these accommodations before. She put them on me so she would wait until i would be. You know what okay. Let me try gates. Because i was very resistant at place and she never forced into which i am grateful for it because i think there would be a why. Why trauma to unpack had been forced to wear do all these things that i wouldn't prefer and then growing up you know it was carte taking widow many desk computer around to all my classes and hooking it up they can shoot wife. I was going to let the person transcribing and far away plates. That i realized i don't really know. Were against everything that they were hearing. And i also had interpreter for three years and then i had kuechley implants and that was another thing that i'm grateful for my mom waiting to consent to and once i go like i actually wanted. She was extremely supportive. And i'm grateful that she has just given the options of course. In addition to that date great we had a teacher come over and teach us but of course to learn language. Do we have to be in most in it. And so i would pick it up every now and then they were no other death my life they were no other disabled impactful and anyone that was close to so. That's something i wish. But i'm grateful for those early signs lessons regardless today. I'm still working on fully connected to write up chosen gambling which you define yourself as being transgender. and i. i like if you could give us a little bit of information about the journey that you've been on because just like with the discussion of your hearing loss and how you've moved from one stage to another i. You started on this journey when you were quite young and wondering if you could share a little bit about this journey but also you know you so eloquently discussed this in in many ways and in the book that will be coming out. It's an important part of what you've written about so if you could talk to us a little bit of app please up to so for me. I have always known that have changed. Meaning that i always have this disconnect with my body a that is that the classic indication that a transportation can have and of course it started out very day typically as i was introduced to feminine things i was i reject them and i would watch other. People grow up and notice the way their bodies would adapt and i would just know deep down. I didn't want bodies. And i wrote almost threat i would read and i reason i remember thinking like when i was a little kid. He's probably going be the best years of my life because my body of looks like everyone else's might in addition to all these gendered objects in state you'd have goal things such as color etc activities. It was also just the way that i carried myself. I felt like every move. I made you monitored because it didn't stay to fit into what was feminine and so. I found myself observing in like circle time when all the kids in satelite criss cross apple sauce on the carpet. I would find myself observing way the girls and do my best to call even depot my body Into that and i was scared. I feel safe. I felt my inherited mannerisms like even your way. You know an hour which is something that a lot of free fortunate base which is another thing that you shouldn't be gendered of course that who has to do with anything about ending so from a very early age. I always knew that my body just to knock it up with my and i didn't really know what that meant because they didn't have resource. It's in the language site. Take your this ordering when qb head and felt like the only option for the time was too. You may ask to take all that research. I had learned from watching them and bills and just trying to ebay and just live this performance. Live this lie. Essentially because i didn't know what she was i didn't have any representation. I was. I grew up in a small town in central pennsylvania. That is very conventional Summit up trump came to speak at my high school in. That's kind of the area that it was. And so i just felt like there was no one option so for my own seat in basically like the only option i tried to fit. You know on a here in worth close very close that i didn't mess with and it felt so you know I felt like my life was in modern anymore. But i have the my own safety. Luckily i got high school and came to new york lawyer. Mother played an important role in that right obsolete. So my mom is up to a point in high school that i was in the cycle of crashing. I go to school. I come home and Ago school at home and this is the way. But i was doing was a coping mechanism for me to stay alive. Essentially plugged association. Which is a lot of things that a lot which is a coping mechanism that people who have exchanged often resort to to desensitize themselves to really things happening in their life. So that's what i was doing. Great before it. Honestly at the time because it's got me through living in in nevada you connect with people that i couldn't relate and so my mom saw this and although she didn't have the connections to understand what was happening to me she knew to out the area was in a needed to be exposed to something else and different in so she looked into early college acceptance and she found this junior accepting spoke. Parsons in new york. City and deadline was a beagle way And i come. From a very academic families always lucky to begin like unnecessary tests. Like the sat or hand and week before we got together in the clyde garnett and i still remember that day. That should call me and just told me that bet. She had found that option and potential food to get our ages boat Open up of his own it sounds. Hec on a house. describe it. And then i love skips new year at came straight to your and of course like this is a weird how i met fans people i met he will. I saw gay people walking down the street horns which is something you would morrissey up and it just restored my night hope for humanity. I felt like time travel like a fifty years into the future. Which i kinda did or puerto so from there i. I was able to defend other chains individuals and chan's individuals who told me about this the types of gender stereotypes and misconceptions with increased communities such as you know having to look a certain way to claim a certain identity which is not true on the gender binary and this has led me to present myself. The way i do which is to be masculine but identify as gender queer or non binary. Which means i don't subscribe to the gender by feel wait who i am beyond dot and cannot encompass choices at the age of for your family. Learn that you any hearing loss. When did you start your creativity. Art amir as soon as i quit as soon as i as i could hold a crayon and i remember i picked up trash bags and i'll go around my house in buick. Is there anything anyone does want any junk or anything and like if they had stuff outfits shoving trash bag and then by the end you know i have this music collection of job and out sit down and our the make. I'm she Robots would make you know whatever i wanted to whatever i could imagine i was reading a calvin and hops back. Then so you know they do stuff with that in nineteen that inspire me but it just allowed me to reimagine. What was possible with what i had done. And i think the idea. That idea was so beautiful to me. And i wanted to. I wanted to play with a father in different mediums sculpture. Don't i don't really free Now maybe that's a sign that it but now end up doing arps inches. The art behind the in a draw. I draw over their artwork that we can quickly see not buying what i mean. You're the artwork that you could see is actually on my body which is all the tattoos. I have Are designed ideally. I can't imagine having another person's are on my body. My body is sacred and just for myself that just want by one. Have you studied art prior to coming to new york. No i have not. I went to a very conventional school. And ironically i did not even really study are at parsons and said he virtual reality programming which is a lot of computer science and I had these visions of one two feet. Simulations where able bodied people assist gender. People could come on this headset in the emergency simulation where they could experience like the way. I spits life which is something that i still want to do. But at this point incentive program get myself. I wanna create directed project like that. Well i'm sure you will be able to do that. She brought s- so when you came to new york you were discussing how you were finding as so many different communities. Maybe we'll get talk a little bit more about the importance of these communities. And because you've got the jewish community that a trans community the asian communities on and on however even melding those into your being bay are very foundation to have you. You know they are allowed to imagine what's possible for myself. And they allow me to feel represented you know even like it's the kind of representation that is so intimate because rather than seeing it on a magazine. You can talk to them. You can sit with them cry with them and hold them and not just that has been so ewing in. I have gone on my way to establish my own. Chosen communities. Chosen families in that sense infamous that i've been able to you so we understand that what i went through is not something that is other. You know. discrimination is massive. And he will don't have to be my exact identities to understand what you're human beings all go through similar things but similar cycles their offer. Different things just going to say that. I think it's been a real wonderful model about your life. Is your mother. And i assume your family overall really Going on a journey with you and they didn't know where that journey was going to leave though. Does your mother speak with other mothers who have children. Who are trams had is your mother. Continue to play a role in allowing people to understand the journey. That she's on with you. My mom definitely speeds the water clear individuals and create parents inquiry kids. she's actually a pediatrician. And so she works a wi with children and has a lot of trans patients which is really and so she's she's constantly in conversation about all things in In terms of my family. I always say i just wanted the family why they may not have understood at. Its but what they were willing to do. Is go to a to understand unpack in. Burn all talk misconceptions that we are presented with in mainstream society. And that's a water manage but it's also it's also a lot and that's what they have in and so grateful i was gonna say you're such a blessing in their life also been q. I mean it's really. I think the fact that you are able to be so expressive of who you are and really a publicly expressive. because it's such an intrinsic not only part of who you are. But i think very much something that you feel is important to share with other people. When when did that part of you begin to emerge where you felt the importance of being more public about who you are. It was as soon as i had encouraged as soon as i really connected the dots and was already up. That was chosen families that we spoke about as soon as i was healed enough to be like you know what i'm on point to resources community in the ability you mentally physically to be able to share this people. That's a huge But people go there who allows on. That's exactly what he wants to do. And just don't want anyone order young to go through what i did. An experienced that scarcity infusion an lack of representation because the world is owned much more beautiful with us with who are queer disabled people with five hundred people. It's so much more colorful. It just opens up this story of possibilities. Not just for like us but for people who who just don't even know about this other options is a whole another world of abundance and i don't think people realized how much scarcity beat living because they're not aware the other options. I think the word abundance for you is it completely right on word funded also because of your talents so Eve also been doing modelling. How did you get into that weird. That was out of clue of. I had a friend when i had just moved to new york who was a model and he had four shoe amir hanging out at day and so he was like. Would you want to tag. And so on the go k. And i went. And just like i remember. We walk into the studio so beautiful. And so i was just sitting on the side and the dog walk over to me was. Hey you have a really cool. Look this is. Aw before i started to stash before katsuji i was while awed. I looked very clear Stereotypically and he was like. Hey would you wanna shoot a of boroughs up. Okay wait wha whatnot and it was really interesting. Because i think it forced me to connect with my body more to be able to model vehicle to know out of you have to be grounded present in your body to give to the camera to get that art in i think monitoring really also played a wedge part in connecting my mind to my body again and making me realize there was so i bought into modeling. Kind of accidentally. I still modeling. Im it's honestly a really in tastic way to meet people you would have otherwise never met sell. Where do you see yourself moving over the next couple of years. What are some of your objectives for your future. I i see myself with may be my art me. I see myself with my family more. I'd love to acquire post pandemic travel more into see more the world julie be like it's like you fly planet to the courtroom. So did want to do that. I find myself continuing to build those communities and strengthened my relationship and a month to write more In addition to this book and incorporated my audit boy who has sneaked a few artworks in Always make art. I mean other than i. I'm very open to like wherever it takes. But i just want to be able to be present in be grateful and enjoy the richness of as much as possible lazett f- community been so important to you. Oh because i was living in different left growing up not knowing anyone else. He was or hard of hearing. I couldn't talk to people without having to explain. Like scroll of different things and just understand. And when i talked to before people. That screw isn't isn't necessary. i'm just they get. There's so much less energy as needed because they just get and that is what community is being able conserve energy. Keep it for yourself in life. Understand why that connection is's safety. I mean they've also enabled me to imagine a future as a parent. I've always had trouble communicating with children because of By the way mumbo high pitched voices. I can't hear them out well And then i had the the pleasure and privilege of meeting the ribicoff stub douglas in line with baugh. Who a uniform. Beautiful human beings They both death and the to death sons and meeting them and seeing their family in one day but the me to be. I think i have it. It's she sewn for exchange so tell us about mary. V o k. Where do i start it relates to this whole issue also family and community and you've known her now for how many years almost five we've been dating four and a half and how you met her. I felt was quite beautiful. Oh man yes oh met at actually just had to tell the story so out seven you free I was re pops injury. I didn't even connect the dots believe i was trails But i knew. I was queer so i showed up at it was a classic college party in brooklyn and kids hanging out windu for that smoking and this was like the gracie of college so neither of us really knew anyone so. When did this party in hopes to meet people. And i will in and i saw her like across the room and we both have different interpretations about how this went so she would probably tell a different way but i think possibly that i want to her and i just remember i distinctly remember thinking. She's the coolest place in and she's so you for She's vibrant and youthful reckless. And i run up and like for she were no issues on and as i'm with me. My name's chela inch of movie. And she said. I like your hair and i thought that was so ironic. Because i was falling in. I don't have to buy she's cute. So how been so. We talked a little bit and then we got split up. And at the end of the night i ran into her again and i knew i was like i will regret as if i need is on the door me and stereotypically. She looked very straight. But of course i was like but stereotypes. I don't believe in that. So i'm gonna shoot my shot and if this is really crazy but would you wanna go out some time and she pause in. That was the longest pause of my entire life with base. And then she was like. Yeah and i like chess had actually Widow did i know she had thought that i was asking to hang out as friends because you know at the time she actually identified straight edged fin for me and of course on the first day. I waited so much that she realized be and it was a big clunky dinning at she was really coming into her quinonez. But doubt and the rest is history. So you've been together for four and a half five years you live in brooklyn yes yet. So i'm from brooklyn you know. I'm from brooklyn. So i'm very happy that you have found a lovely place in brooklyn. Your mother is jewish. And your father. What is your father's background my father. He's chinese so you have this mixture of so many parts. How have you You know being jewish is also something that you speak about and its importance for you. Maybe you could talk a little bit about that out. Why why have you chosen coming from a small town where being jewish was again yet. Another minority what is what is it about being jewish and asian and everything else. That is a value to you. That's a great question. I mean growing up being jewish. Our ten sunday school a synagogue every morning and there is when i feel i truly learned about there is a step people can have because at a very early age these talk to you about the holocaust and it's a lot to digest as a kid to hear about the holocaust especially as a look my own family my agreeing on a pass away because of the holocaust and she's pagan at the time so that's been obeyed people. Vitamins issue She she died in not in a concentration camp but she was forced to about nazis in return for her life and then it ended up using her which paired very sad but Learning that when i was very young. I was truly able to understand the extremities. Humanity could vote number one out you human beings but at the same time how resilient and how strong humanitarian cindy and i feel that set me up to fully understand almost like foreshadowed. Some things our base myself and so. I've always been very appreciative of learning history barrier in having my jewish family. There to ask questions you know about discrimination in your community you know and So i feel that release factors greatly impacted. Ruining and i think to this day i still process its effects on the addition to that one of the most amazing things that that i had was my rabbi was gay and he was out in the area we were in. He's like that. Was we bet so. Cool so i never had to question. We're might be accepted. Like if i was queer like the rabbi was gazed is like our. You know that was that was had a great effect as that. I've still passes one very quick last question. Do you like to cook. I enshrine too. I have iraq patients. But i do enjoy cooking. What are some of your favorite foods jewish. Okay okay the bracing. I can think about is like chocolate. That's so good. I love back. I love her roses. I love it. Yes yeah i can just blend up ten apples in always ekamol. Hirose is something that we use as part of the service for passover seder. Yeah it's like dessert you know for an appetizer. Or or i guess my kids in entrees but use it as part of the service and if it's good you make a lot of it so people will eat it after for days will challenge. We are unfortunately at the end of this discussion but Let me say really how much i appreciate you. I'm having my whole team really appreciates you because of how you bring your whole self into everything that you do and i believe you're a really important model for people of any age to recognize moving through that struggle and really trying to find who we are changes every day israeli such a critical part of life. So i'm chela. Would you just quickly tell us about your upcoming book. Yes so my upcoming book is continuum and it's part of this collection call. The pocket change collective published by penguin in it's written for fourteen plus ages It's a super condensed version of my stories. Basically like we invite diary and a really say but to come out. Because i didn't. I worked very hard to make a water issues. That racine is conflicts within our world very simplistic basic. Because i truly are scored. So that is coming out. June brace this year twenty twenty one and is available for preorder. Now it's beautiful. But can i encourage you all to order it and to read it and to share it so thank you chela. I will talk with you soon and thank you for being who you are you be you are having me. It's been a pleasure then this you've been tuning into the human perspective with judy human. This week's guest was telemann. You can find links to tell us website in the episode description below and on our website. Be sure to follow chila at chela man and at chilean art on twitter and instagram. The music for the human perspective is dragon. Which is produced performed by lachey yonne title and fought in in the ultra music. Is i wait. By galen gallantly please be sure to rate review and subscribe to the human perspective and follow judy on twitter at judas human and on instagram and facebook at human perspective.

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"You got Cheonan busy. So people arrived. The people wanna know was the mic still lawn of sei's, man. You're listening to the mice delong. Thank you for president play. Thank you for subscribing share on the show. Man. So we got a lot to talk about this week racist. Dress codes Facebook, I hear kicking people off the platform. The obamas. Male Chela may. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's one of four different segments. We do. We opened the show with common commentary. We do topics. Then we do know we open with facts only. Hold on. I'm tired. That's only we only topics common cometary pass the my, and that's it. So so yes, so please share the show while you're listening. Join our community go there Graham dot com slash system. I still on click the link tree link house put it in the description and joined discord read it. Facebook all of the socials and make sure you subscribe to the YouTube channel is the mice too long. We got some content coming. They're they're working on it. Trust is is is on the way. And a lot of you guys have been looking at asking for the in game review that should already be up by the time. You're listening to this. Oh, it was a two hour long conversation. I'm doing some some cleaning up trying to make it, you know, really good for you guys. So so yeah. So that's one way that's on the way. And and that's it any other housekeeping. Did I miss anything? I was on the electric funeral podcast. If y'all want to check that out. It was a really fun interview with these guys talking about meddle in other shit. So yeah, good on my Twitter is Lincoln on a hell of a main electric, General Electric funeral. Yeah. I kinda liked that. Slee? Sit anymore. I know mine now. Pickups langley. I do trying to keep all on. Or something. Yeah. But we knew all of those. Did you do? Of course, my idea. Of course, my you got to reiterate it. They started me started before the recording by. So all right. Let's do this facts only hit some of these topics. So just got one with Dane. Dan. It's not bad, man. I don't think is it ready. Feel the facts about the thing. But yeah, it was just some quick details. And and we'll move on. It's an interesting. So anyway, number one, the black people Twitter read, it was changed for black people only, partly as April Fools joke, and as a form of protests, the separated attracts a lot of racism and city towards black people. And this change was meant to raise awareness. They sent a three, and you can go see all this stuff already. If you care. It was inspired by similar food show. Protests on the Argeles read it. And the response from a lot of ready users was particularly blatant racism. Let's see here sub ready called subs for white people. Only started admit quarantine quarantine by read it, and there's some other sub readies of similar nature to black people Twitter. Let white people Twitter. Latino people Twitter Scottish people Twitter Keeney bottom Twitter. India people people Facebook, there's only. I thought it was I thought it was like booting see. I've never seen. The bottom. There's a personal SpongeBob names Pechiney bottom. I never watch where they live. They live in a place called McKinney bottom. Yes. Yes. What? Actual bikini about being an adult known. But the fuck Batang. Brinton the book. Did you grow up with that? Yes. Thing about the new show. Though. It's kinda it's of like they'll come on. It's to make new episodes. It's kind of like, I don't know about you. But I I grew up like renting stimpy, and I'm not saying they're the same. But it was a lot of adult innuendo in that show. Yeah. I had a T shirt in high school that said reddened pimp, and I got kicked out of class turn inside out. Oh, it's certain. So, but I mean it had Ren and stimpy, but Glenn was like the skinny one rents ran ran was like a Hooker. And the other one was like, oh, say red and pimping. As one. All right, man. So yes. So that was it just some other stuff that I guess we miss but. Yeah. So anyway, common commentary, all right. This rettig. Jump ahead. You got it wrong. Autism. This is all Mike's fall talk about black woman hair. Do not know informed. Fucking under soapies topa do rag. I told you what I wanna see no show. That'd be terrible UK straight a dread though. But you can have an afro. So that doesn't make any sense. Afro, she does it's not like a full fees. He did the fist. David fromm by. Is that a common be that you want to read? Yes. In Rettig badly moving on. From ready to do this call. I'm unmodern media. Is tethered. But he was like, hey, guys. I really love the show. I'm not saying I'm not saying you do this often. Because he was he was man on this comment. He like, I'm not. Okay. Hey, guys. I love the show. I'm not saying you do this often. But can you cut out the look 'isms in the height 'isms like us? It you guys really reading. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. I have no idea. Like, I said you guys don't do often. But it will happen on an odd. Occasion. It reply broken some his. What is? Height ism. Okay. So height ISM. I guess is just like make people are short or tall or tall. I've never know doing that. No one here is actually we've made a couple of short just you. Women that was a long time ago. And that's not like a like a common thing that we. I'm looking looking. I just thought it was so fucking. I know. I saw it somewhere audit. I can't remember because it's not just already I think he might have atmospheres on Twitter. I saw it somewhere else. This is all about so no, I just said I'll somewhere. I knew I saw it somewhere else. Just can't remember where you did he call himself on modest media as funny. So this is clearly only about Sophie's. I don't know why he wrote to all of us. See I'll why the fucking damn share. Sophie, this is getting ridiculous down red. Is he show already? Right, y'all punks man for real. But look is is discriminatory treatment towards people considered physically unattractive. So that's only Sophie can't be ugly. Only one I talk shit about ugly people they had that discussion about how you're so inclusive. Where I said something about the ugly negative and how they. So he's clearly ugly by we're gonna. God it was like, yeah, I'm not dealing with this chick. She's fucking ugly. So I don't trust you'd be like that's just fucked up. And there's no reason that guys treating women like see media. We got some stuff we need. We need to talk about these topics where having okay? Today. So. I think it was on one episode. We and knowledge that John singleton was wasn't doing. Well. And we have received news that he has passed at age of fifty one. So very impactful in terms of a lot of great movies and actors and stuff that we've we've has so. Yeah. So anybody got anything they want to share about that? I, you know, I hope we like not all people be I've been seeing on social media a lot like people saying, oh, man. He he made a lot of black classes like I want to take them out of the black cl- like he may classic movies. Like, I don't want to. I don't wanna just keep them in debt black, quote unquote, black classic films like he may great classic movie. So that's all I wanna say this rested. He gave us some gym, man. Like back in the day. Did you know that boys in the hood guy put into I want to say like? I know I'm misspeaking. So I'm just kind of generalized, but like either museum or like until like the hall of fame or something like that where it's like, it's immortalize. Now. Like that. Let me look this up because we talked about it on. But I thought it was a more allows because it's a foam though, now like like now this this is like little spouse. So disrespected mean, though. He's on modest media today. Moralize because it's a. But yeah, that's all I just wanna say like, let's not just put them in that box like do boxes that classic. But don't have jam box in black clan. Disrespect which you be. Yeah. I haven't heard about the other. I might have. I may I forgot who's the other pass Chewbacca. Oh, we'll. Yeah. Peterman who played Baca he passed away. So that's really sad. The really kind of interesting to me is about a year ago friend of mine really close friend of mine passed away. He was in the five. Oh, I which is like a a Star Wars group or they dress up in these cost in the costumes wherever they make their own costumes, and they'll go into charity work and stuff, but they also do conventions and Peter Mayhew tweet it out about my friend passing. And this is just odd that almost a year later or little bit over a year later, he passes away to so it says, but yeah, recipes pure may I never met him. I've been in places where he was. But I was just too cheap to go pay the money to meet people. But I've heard he's an extremely nice person. So yeah, meet them. Yeah. If you go to like Star Wars celebration. Yeah. You gotta pay money. Like I wanted to meet fucking Billy. Dee he was at one of them and this motherfucker one one hundred dollars. I didn't know that. All right now, you just you just. Right. Shake your fucking hand. But they didn't do like like VIP package packages. Installing. See I would think that's when I that's how people paid us EP or for the IP VIP's. That's what I'm saying seven hundred. But then just to meet them. They're gonna target anywhere between fifty and a hundred dollars. Like, I think I think Mark Hamill in them. Not Mark Hamill. Sorry was either. I forget what everyone I was at. But I know Carrie Fisher was there. And I think she was only like fifty. But I know I remember that Billy was more. And I was like, I'm not paying more money to fucking meet Billy. Dee think Carrie Fisher, even though I do regret not being Carrie Fisher. Is he's passed anyway recipes pyramid here. All right moving on. So. James Madison, high school has a new dress code for parents. Parents are no longer permitted on school grounds. Wherein saddened caps or bonnets herald. But Djaama's were leggings anything revealing such as local top, saggy pants short shorts. Also. The look Mike is so here's the thing. So. Goping you'll kill looking like that. Nowhere. The head of it looks nice. When I heard about the dress code. I thought it was just for students. I didn't notice was. Yes. Correct. And then I started reading. Track. It. So you'll keep this over here all day on the grounds. They will have her on. I got was it. Due to a medical problem. I thought you had to pick her up early, and they would literally not permit her on the on the because of how she was dressed. Crazy. You can't let me sit up that is legal. I know you can do that. That's what. It should be legal, man. The. Few said because you're bald. Go ahead rap. Mike, my spices. Jamaica. Ken. I mean. You can't keep somebody's kid from them. If you if they have to be picked up due to like, allergic reaction or medical emergency. Or even if you gotta take them to the Graham their grandma's house. Or you know, what I'm saying? What about outside of that? What do you mean outside? He just picking them regularly just to pick them up. Bullshit. I'm also. Yeah. Like if I got to pick my kid up, even if I don't the fuck you, Tom. I can't come on the school grounds of my kid is there because I got a fucking. Hey, kiss my ass racist bullshit. I see somebody tweet. I did see somebody tweet that they had to go pick up their son up. They had to go pick their son up from. I think either daycare or something like that. But apparently you'd have to call ahead or else, you're literally not permitted to take them out early or something. So is that is that a thing to like you have to call ahead. And because I don't. You know, what is interesting is that you're trying to give them address coat to pick up their kids? What do you do when they're at home because I'm sure they dress like because one of the things she. I don't think saying that we're trying to set a standard, and we have hostile, and you should have standards. Right. So if you're trying to a standard standard for them just to pick up the kid like at the end of the day. They're still going to be at home wearing all of the stuff that you just said, they couldn't come mother fucking job to set a standard for another adult. I understand that. But but that's where the policy kind of falls apart. Don't make sense like years. That's where it falls apart. From the first letter of the first one. Just say like you can't apply this universally to that child. So it was like, okay. So what five ten minutes you want them to come? In sundays. Right. I know why you think you should be legal while you think that trolling around. I'm not serious, man. No. I mean because I mean people where would they they wear, and I I haven't seen could you imagine? If you like we're just dying like playing basketball or something, and you go pick up your you try to pick up your son from school. They're like, nah, not with the basketball shorts dog. Come at the end. Why why do you get what pajamas outside? The likes. You know what I'm saying? Like as long as it's not like if you're wearing some lingering. I see. Who's going to do that? But I mean. This is America never know. But that's still bullshit. That's great night. Is it is you can't you can't look a grown, man or woman should have to fight. I'm sure the kids appreciate the though. Why? Hilter which always parents certain type of way, but I don't know black thing. When I was in grade school. It was like if your parents called you to the office to like for early release or something they would never actually come to the classroom to get you, right? They would buzz you in and be like, hey, come to the office. You would walk into the office in your parents. Day, man. Yeah. Also my role. Joe's come my family. But yeah. Like a lot of families though. Yeah. That is only one school. There was a county was at one school or account. It's just James Madison high school wasn't that. She's out of there who she the principal. She's out of her fucking. I don't think is their responsibility to you know. Regulate that you know. Although I understand it. But it's not there. It's not there. People got going on. Yeah. Especially like the bun. It's in the head wraps because I don't like stuff need to be rep. Yeah. I don't I don't like my daughter or my wife like go out house pundits on and stuff. Like that. Always stays onto like house like that. She likes to personally. I it depends on what you're doing. Even go business like at a Bank or user, I have. You go to WalMart and go get some, you know, what I'm saying, whatever. Yeah. Who cares? And in my other thing is right. Like, let's say like there's an emergency like a family emergency. You got rollers in your head some happens. You gotta go. Get your kid. You take all his down gets. So when they get I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well, I was gonna ask a quick question. So when they when they get there with the wraps on do they say, you can't have your kid or we'll bring your kid to you. What do they say? I don't. Think they bring their kids. Can I don't think you can pick them up? She won't let you on a on a property at all like you. You can't know Bush it we'll have to research on our own. They like if you don't want. If you don't want the pairs get onto the campus like that. I get that. But that should not impede me from getting my child because you know, you don't know what the fuck is happening in my life. I mean, my K right now, we need the bounce right? No. I was trying to get a finance it to to my question. But yeah, I mean, you know, so so yeah. So I mean, so it was a black racist. Who my God? First of all don't ask that question before disclosing what she was about to say you. Come on. Now. She's a black woman who's a a principle who enforce this rule? So everyone's kinda like what the fuck are you doing man like sitting? I can't. Stole fucking wacked so K, and we move on after this question you can answer you don't have to. But do you think is the same thing? Like when the NBA and still dress code back in the nineties where a I or a are having coming to to post game in pre-game when sweat pants and stuff like that. Now yachting's can't do that. So you felt that was racist. At the time. Yeah. Yeah. At the time. They don't really have not enforced. Okay. All right anyway. So yeah, that's that let us know, man. And if you guys I mean, I don't know if we have answered the question, but I'm sure you got the facts only about what happens if they show up a bit of positive news. You know, trying to try to keep it. Midst here. Philander Casto's mom. Keep it a little logic. Some logic in here. Yeah. Man. This was dope. Man. She donated eight thousand dollars to settle a lunch debt that was preventing high school seniors from graduating, which is kind of crazy in the first place. But but yeah, man like, but I think they had that when I was in school like if you had any type of unpaid debt man, they won't let you didn't never believed them. How you keep me in school because I haven't paid this off. I never believed that I think I'm trying as I do and stuff did you actually pay everything offered? Did you try them and just be like fuck shit until graduate? I didn't. But I know some people that probably didn't pay graduated. I feel like it depends on what balance you're either way. I think that that's what the fuck is this. I don't remember do you remember saying too? No like like, this is for like lunch stuff books that you're never turned in and stuff like that. They'll they'll say. Plumbing for library books. Never be an Ireland. What? I was doing. She's very intelligent. I didn't go get books in the library. I didn't need those. You just regular regular library. Yeah. I didn't get books from the student. I won't be. I remember I didn't like the person that ran the front desk. So I just I never went in the library. But I didn't know that they could keep your diploma from you. If you didn't turn say tested. Really, right. Yeah. I would've tried somebody had to try to graduate though. I'm Greg legal that can't be a threat. I'm pretty sure if you don't turn in a fucking screen, but it's not even that. I think she's this particular story is focusing on like the lunch debts that are unpaid. So, you know, you remember Philander Casteel story about how he was like the lunch dude who was like helping people I feel like it's kind of an I saw this kind of based on a tweet that I read to someone was like as like as administration, it's kind of embarrassing for you to accept this. Check knowing that, you know, you wouldn't have just waved the student fees in general, you know, what I'm saying. Like, that's so embarrassing that you have to accept this money from somebody who is launched it. So okay. So do you remember how some people pack their lunches, and then some people just like were released into the cafeteria, and they would get in this long line, and whatever served that day, whether it be pizza hamburgers pay right? They had to pay some people. It's like different like, you get that waiver where it's like route to produce lunches or free lunches or whatever. You know, there's there's different tiers. So it's like income base in what your parents make etcetera. So it's like they have regular lunch. Right. Reduced lunch and free lunch. If you qualify for any of those. But for example, it's just say you have reduced lunch. And it's two dollars instead of six dollars, and you only have a dollar fifty. They might give you a pass that day and say, okay, go ahead or whatever. Yeah. And it goes on like a debt that's tied to the little number on your account that you would type in the line. Yeah. Your student ID. And for example, I guess if it's like you have fifty or one hundred dollars or whatever at the end of the year, that's unpaid that you said you were going to pay. But you know, what I'm saying? I get it. I don't think my school do that. But I would you're saying. Yeah. So they kind of use that as a tied to be like, well, you know, you said you were going to pay it all year, and we let you go all year 'cause I don't think that they can deny student. Well, actually, I'm I don't know that might be mistaken on that. 'cause I really do feel like I did see kids who legit went without lunch because they couldn't afford it. Holland my school didn't do that. Oh veru. If you didn't have the money, you just didn't eat or maybe maybe they didn't want to accrue that money. Yeah. They were just like, my mom can't pay it. So I'm not going to you know, I also went to a fairly privileged schools. That was very very rare. I wasn't Conyers. So like when I was in high school. I went to a private high school the first high school. I went to in his either you paid or you brought your own now was it. There was no reduce this that whatever I and then when I went to when I finally went to public high school. I don't know. 'cause I always just brought my own using my mom, my mom, always used to cook. Like every day. So I will have leftovers and then when I went to public high school, I was a junior in high school. So they allowed the juniors and seniors to leave campus to go get food and come back. So if I if I am bring leftovers, then I would just go Taco Bell. Those no vegan food about high schools. Says high school tenth grade. So I didn't I don't know much about school lunch. But I know they didn't do this weird. To have it. I don't eat, right. That's yeah. Like always got freelance. From the home. Go vegan way back in tenth grade. Because 'cause that was like before that was even a thing. Right. Like, did you see the school into? We'll make this really quick. They're really really quick. It was you know, when you're when you're young you get to that point where you realize, you know, cows equal hamburgers. When you're when you're really young you don't think about that. But everyone at some point. You're like, oh, that's what this is either. You care. You don't. So when I was fifteen and I came that realization, I was like, oh, that's what that is. That's disgusting animals for you always has been. Okay. So like just carrying about animal. I'm not one of these people are like, oh, I'm healthy. They eat gluten free non GMO air sandwich, fresh it. I just don't actually eaten animal grow. So that's so fearful. If you were in high school and over was around you'll be ordering Uber fat. He'd be fact. There are some kids that are doing that. And there was a story that came out where the teachers were actually confiscating their food from them. Smack. I wanna say was here. So that would be you. But in a teacher, take, you know, what I wouldn't even have to smack up. You know, it was gonna happen. Okay. Goo food. Good, man. I agree with it agree with what? Really? Yeah. Not graduating. Oh, no. I agree with the teacher confiscating the food. I don't know about confiscated confiscating the food, but in terms of like not allowing that because I actually talked to my co worker about that who she graduated high school a little bit later on. So she had like ubereats started to become a thing. Like right before she graduated. She said that so many people were having like lunch come to the school at random times. Like, I feel like I think lunch was between like maybe twelve or eleven thirty and one or something like that. And they would go to the bathroom and be like, well, I'm one of the back. I'll be right back or something and meet people off campus to go pick up a twelve piece or something come back into math class and now smelling like hot sauce and shit. And then you've got five and it back like. It's just like that is crazy to me. And I think when a lot of people saw this story they were like, oh, that's me Newt. But it's like, you're you've got people who are ordering the shit and not even during lunchtime. And then on top of that overeats typically delayed during the lunch period where it's like an hour and a half, wait. So even if you order it at like ten or whatever it might come later. You know, I feel like a lot of kids aren't thinking ahead like oh shit. Let me order this in between this period. You know, they don't do it in a way where it doesn't take away from like the learning experience. So just don't allow it at all. So it can't become skated, basically. Yeah. And I feel like a lot of schools are pushing to do that whole thing because I feel like it's stupid to what allow for east, but then confiscate the food just ban the whole shit together food. They're going to eat this. You know, so. Makes a point. Yeah. Like, you don't want to be a distraction in class. Like like, if you ordered it at a certain point, and it got there during your lunch period. Yeah. Office to pick it up or whatever on top of that. You gotta think how many kids are in school first of all. And then on top of that you have some random old Joe come into the office area wonder for such and such then the person in the office gotta figure out who's classroom. And if they're even in their that person could be on like a bathroom breaks of the person isn't even in the classroom. You know, what I'm saying to call kind of coast shootings somebody can try to use that as a tactic inside at school. I mean, you don't have to do much to get inside of school understand that really walk up an open the door understand that. But like you you could pose as an Uber coming in because it's easier. I just think that the school itself has to like come up with a process versus just, you know, confiscating the food or whatever like, you know, instead of banning to school anymore really get both doing really every single is that like a lawn. Our daughters has been in the buzzer. I get buzzed in every time. There's like you're standing outside, and you get an apartment or some shit is well, it's like a door. You have to click a button to let them their buzz you in. Oh, really? No, it's it's different. When I go walking. Yeah. Go to to the office. And yeah. Because that's usually like the first bit room that you see when a lobbying office every time. But yeah, they have a process where like when Uber each person gets there. They just drop it off in the office. And then whoever the secretary or the front desk person is Lou. Deliver in two hundred bucks. What do you really think is like two hundred lunches a day? The food and saw that. This food is people from like like freshman to like sophomore in that. I can't drive age 'cause I feel like juniors seniors. They're like, I remember even when I was in school people would like sneak off to like Chick-fil-A or waffle house for lunch, or whatever granted you don't even have that long of a period at depends on your class. And how lax it is if you could go during that time, but mainly the people who can't drive are people who are leaving campus to go meet up with a stranger to select this food people could get kidnapped. It's just like so much shit going on, you know, people barely even know how to get into their own Uber's when the car and the make and model is right there. So you don't know who the fuck you're meeting up with for this. It's it's a liability at all costs. First of all, you must be on a good place. If you order an Uber eats shit, some type of privilege. Privilege. So too bad. Y'all can't eat your food sterile while we got people out there that has lush dedicating freaking graduate. So anyway, which I which I think about offset in these felony charges knocking phone out that do anything about that inform us can give give give us some background. What does it was? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it was a. Andrew junior Gibbons had took he took out his phone. He was trying to take video with offset. And and he's he did. I did see that something is expect shit downfall. What did he have in his hand? Yeah. You can't you can't offset. And he's asshole. So what what do you get hard with? Was it aggravates the felon, it's a felony felony felony charges, man. But wait a misdemeanor like a fucking felony. Of course. And that's what that's what a lot of people are saying because his him. They're you know, they're calling it. It's 'exploitation. So yeah, let's see where is it. Where is it? Because when I first heard it didn't make sense. How do you, you know, give a person of felony charge for not gonna phone out of the hand? But then with what they say it was because of the the how especially the phone was is why it. I see I don't really feel bad for him. Why you smacking people's fucking? Okay. So so bad that you got that you're involved with the law, but a felony scenes a bit excessive. But also, I know that whenever you damage personal property. They do have limits and these fuck your phones are expensive shit now. So this person had like a like iphone ten max like five twelve you're looking at almost like eighteen hundred dollars. Just got to be smart, man. Yeah. You can't do that your public figure. Why he would turn around just walk out the door the way you were going. This has been happening with other rappers like, I know there was a big deal with with Earl a month or so ago where some kid was filming him, and Earl ran up and slap the dudes phone, and then we see this happen. I guess I guess these celebrities are just getting annoyed with having their privacy invaded which on one side. I do understand being annoyed that just because you're a public figure people think that they can just go up run up in your face. Hey, put a grammar, whatever. Right. But on the other hand, I don't understand why you think you are a celebrity. So you kind of walked into this this which stand you don't wanna be bothered. But you don't have the right to just run up in break somebody shit because there's a way that you can kinda just kinda get out of it. You know, just be lighting, bro. You know? I'm good. Appreciate if you don't high block your face, man. Just like I'm not really trying to do that right now face walkaway some like disrespectful sitting. You know, captain, light the selfie so. Yeah. So while he was in the background or something like that. Onus. Way back there. And he's also on them in slapped it out of hand. That's crazy. So yeah, I'm with it. Got phone calls too much for smacking. Got the kid. Tech. Do you think is different from the person that's holding the camera like if they win payoffs at, you know, can I get a picture, whatever. Versus just, you know, randomly just trying to get you on camera. Like, do you think that's the difference? Like in terms of the rappers reaction, I understand them being pissed either way. I'm the saying don't run up and slap. Nobody's shit. I understand being annoyed. Because I I mean, we're not celebrities, obviously. But I would be fucking annoyed. If every time went out the house, and I go to WalMart. Some dude running like, you know, my zero say so. Fuck out here. But the reason why I what I ask is. Because if you give me the option to decline, then you know, what I'm saying. Like, I guess I will be more. Okay. With that versus you just trying to put me on camera. Just 'cause I'm Wham I got you. But you know, sometimes some of these everything's like they'll declined just to be on some like, they do according went to the this. This this festival down in little five points and one of the dudes from stranger things was there. The weird brother like the older, we are other. He was there. I didn't focusing him. My friends niece who was like fifteen. She saw. She like, oh my God. So it sell from Spain things. I'm looking for fucking eleven do booked up. T- look below black kid, and I'm like fuck that is and she's like, oh my God. I love him. I want to get picked go asking me doing. She just can't in there. She walked over. And she was like, hey, I really love the show. I really love your character. Can I get a picture, and he was like, nah, nah. Because if I get a picture with to dumb out to get a picture with everybody else, and she looked devastated and she walked back. She's like he said, no. And I was like she told me why based in a single mother fucker here looking at you, not a single other person has looked at you get a fucking picture with this. Why are you being a dick like? Reckon. With the chick. And I think he felt stupid that nobody else was asked. It's always like. Just ask him again. Oh, hell she went over. There was a reason she went over there. And I pulled this look. I understand you're out in whatever. But one person asked you, bro because we were standing by him for a good forty five twin came in person renounce her one person. And you're telling me that if you take this one pick people going swarm you so so clear you told her to go back, and you took the picture. On the on the sneak 'cause you're being adjourned. So okay. So I got I got I got two stories right is wrong did but I did it anyway. And it was your niece on the book and. Stories. So I'm black Korea. The the host of that show. He was on one of those like American idol type shits over there in Korea, a really popular. And he he told me this one story where he was like chilling on a corner, and you know, people passing careers, very densely populated, and there's one dude was all my guy. You're that guy. Right. So he took a picture in all of a sudden he Goss warmed and he was like I missed like my like the concert that he was going to. So so I could get it. Right. Like, I understand in an even me like. About six months ago. So I was at whole foods, right? And me, and the wife we eat how Khobar and all of a sudden is one dude. He's there with his wife and he's like oh shit. Fi fo that he made like this big ass commotion. You know, what I'm saying you, I get a picture. You know? I don't give a damn like. Yeah. Come on all of a sudden, I like four or five other people obviously swarm, but I have four or five other people come up like so. Yeah. So who are you in this that and also your famous in this people just started like coming up to me? I'm like what the fuck imagine. If you. No, I've never turned down a picture ever me. Neither you would absolute. I said this before. Yes, you would turn down a picture. I don't care. Reasoning. I don't want to. I don't. So what do you tell them? Okay. Tell me a situation. How did she ate it? But no, I don't feel like taking a picture right now. And what what did they say? What are they going to do? I'm gonna say they're gonna walk away. Okay. Dick. Somebody that was like I kind of looked up to and even if it's not just a picture. I'm dislike hey, my, really. Night way, kind of feel like your whole if there's like what to like literally to people who actually follow me or give a shit about me. I feel like they know that I'm not the type of person like it like for me when I see celebrities. I don't even do that whole picture shit. It's just more like I'll look at them. And they'll either like acknowledge me or like make contact or something. And we'll like they know that I know who they are. And that's enough for me. So I feel like a lot of people don't really like or wouldn't really approach me on some like. Yeah. I got a picture with you shit unless I'm literally out in an event or something exactly. So if it's not a lot of people won't you just do it. It takes two seconds ticket picture people killing when they're like, oh, I ain't got time. We literally more time to say, I don't have time that it just take the fucking picture. You're gonna persons bullshit. You're gonna make that person's day. Incorrect person is seeing the person they watched on TV, and they're like, oh my God this to set because I've done it done pictures with people. I love that's great. And I mean, if you're coping this whole, that's fine. No, it's not less time to say. I don't have time. I don't feel like it. I don't wanna picture then it would be like. You know, I I remember one time I went to carnival and this one guy took a picture he asked me and a couple of my friends to take a picture because we were all in like, costumes or whatever right post to post the picture with the caption like, oh got all these baddies or some bullshit. Like that. Like you completely. Switch like this is why I don't fuck fuck with that shit. Because it's like you're going to ask me to take a picture. And then I've seen celebrities where you know, they're they take a picture with somebody. Then they completely flip it like, oh look at this way. Mass Nikko out of character because they was in WalMart dot com. Why? Because someone's going to flip the picture. That's happened to me. Well, anybody listening you see me out and you wanna fuck picture. I gotcha. Good. If you see me out cool, come up say with a take a picture decifit mind. I don't mind, but as phase felony attempted robbery charges. Remember with the camera? So he should've of. As different. So anyway, Facebook redesign was in the news actually for a couple of days one, they redesigned their the app around events and groups, and you know, that's interesting because they've been in the news for a lot of privacy issues. They just had a bad year last year. So I guess they trying to get people cited about the platform again. But right when they did that in addition to doing that they turned around and ban, Alex Jones, Louis Farrakhan. And and my low was my low the other person that they got bad. I'm trying to. That's understandable, all understandable. Even even even even fair. Ban. What exactly? Platform. Wait phase. Why? I mean, they well, I'm lost. Why why can't they use Facebook because Martin one on every because of their? On certain things. So Alex Jones, you know, of course, is known for his conspiracy theories Farrakhan has certain views that are looked down upon by you know, groups of people. So I think they just want to make sure that the platform is used for more positive things and less for those type of positions. And and with these guys they can influence people people, you already know what happened with the election and stuff like that. So they just want to get things back. Right. So fair. Well, that's what Trump tweeted about it and said he's continuing to monitor that censorship of you know, the Americans. So he says getting worse and worse for conservatives on social media. Every so everybody agrees would not lend certain people on matters. If we agree or not I understand that. We had this conversation about the bay. Y'all. But certain people here were like, yeah, it's cool. If they battled daily banks, and I said, then it was fucking stupid, but it's still their platform. So they can do whatever they want. So whatever by by Milo. I mean, what's not fair because all of a sudden just start just making like you'd have to answer. It wasn't just their stance. I think that's a slightly misleading. What was stated there? I think it's more. The fact that these platforms are a little bit scared that they're making dangerous statements. So fair has made Andy semitic statements Milo has clearly made racist statements. He's made and you can try to fact, someone me all you want. But you'll be dancing around the fucking subject Milo has made racist statements. I don't know much about Alex Jones. I always dishonest coup because I never really paid him that kind of tension, but I don't really see the big deal. Granted they kept him around. I wouldn't complain. I went back. That's wrong. Kick them off. I don't agree with all that shit. But if they kicked them off, I'm not gonna sit here and five form. I could say if I'm sorry. Have you seen stuff like like KUA Whitey and stuff like that? I mean, that's a little different. But if you don't know what's your own stance on things and a society, or whatever like why why ban person because you just don't agree. Here's so here's what they said. It is about their community in their community standards is number two in put a Lincoln the show notes, but under dangerous individuals and organization soda policy rationale in an effort to prevent and disrobe real world harm. We do not allow anyone ization or individuals that proclaim violet issue mission or are engaged in violence from having a presence on Facebook. This includes organizations or individuals involved in the following terrorist activity organized hate mass serial murder, human trafficking, organize violence or criminal activity. Farrakhan, is is how fair con has made. Plenty of statements about Jews. Plenty any only reason we would look at him like a black leader. So we ignore what he's saying about other groups. Maybe I'm not aware of what he's saying. He's he's Farrakhan assessment fucked up shit about Jews. Again. I mean, if they decide to keep him I wouldn't complain if they kick him off. I wouldn't I don't really care that much either way. But I think it's funny that people are really mad about this are they will. I mean, you know, you can kind of see a lot of this coming when they started to kind of kick Alex Jones off, and I think they're an m Milo when he got kicked off. And now, you know, two point where okay. Well, we're going to go to and include Farrakhan in there as well. And you know, his record for, you know, his statement. So he and his is their platform. They want, you know, more positive stuff. And you know, this is what they decided to do. And I think this is in response to what happened in the election, and they're clear lack of attention to people's privacy rights and the things that are going on their platform. So so yeah, I mean. Is it censorship? But it's not a freedom of speech issue. Yeah. No. It's not a freedom of speech. But it is censorship though. The only thing that I did think was interesting is how the conservatives are turning this into a conservative targeting when fare cards clue not conservative, you know. And Trump was one of the one that was tweeting out talking about, you know, oh in America. We have freedom of speech, and you still have it stupid ass. But then he was trying to make it seem like they're targeting conservatives. But it's like fair Khan is not a conservative they're targeting people who are making dangerous statements, or what they deem is dangerous Dayton on their platform. Now, this was a government platform. Yeah. I would say this is fucked up and it's not fair, and they have no, right. This is a private corporation. They can do whatever they want. And if you're mad leave the platform and show these platforms that you're mad, but they have no obligation to uphold your freedom of speech abs-. Like, none of those people. I mean, they they Alon with the conservative party. I mean, it just you know. Yes account is what it is. Farrakhan, just you know, now, he's added in that. And, you know, while Trump was speaking for the conservative part, you know, I don't I don't necessarily know if he was include Clooney, Louis Farrakhan in that now he's trying to he's trying to twist the narrative daily Bank kicked off. She's not fucking conservative. She's just a dumb ass. Yeah. And I think it's also so interested in I'm just gonna kinda watch us the play out like now that Louis Farrakhan has been thrown in like when Alex Jones who was kicked off people that share and that type of stuff in my low when he was kicked off yet people cheering like, oh, yeah. You know, you know, he's saying all these dangerous to get him outta here. But now that there's somebody that they may agree with that has been kicked off as black. Now, let's see, you know, how the response is is is going to be you know, moving for since. Like a. Yeah. Yeah. Kick them off because they kicked off to. So they can't say that just a conservative white thing. I think is is statements gave them the power to that. Yeah. Yeah. That and if he didn't say that I I wonder if he would have been kicked off. But but yeah. But either way, but yet at the think it might be a missile both to like, here's a blackout too. We you know, everybody is not just conservative. So maybe it was way to kind of he's Trump. I don't know. So Sophie, did you like that? The mayo Chela that popped up last week. So it was his male. Tele will I mean? Yes. Good. Gotta talk is like well, somebody say what it is. Because 'cause rated for us to move. Go hick Tila, Tillerson happened kid mayo. Cello was Taylor swift coopting. Oh beyond say's. Homecoming Coachella performance the year or the year two weeks. After the Netflix documentary jot. Think so trying to tell you. Young girl. But I know that man was smiling cheese them when they came out. They look so goofy. They did get some some meat on her her bra. Missile. I gave out I was. Where did that come from? Exactly the Miami. See, you know, unbelievable. When I saw do like. It was. I have a question for you. Because you know, you're the camera guide producer guy. So like from that standpoint, what was your reaction about the differences or similarities between these two performances? I mean, immediately look the same. Did it feel the same too? Because to me because I I saw it, you know, again, when you scroll on your time line, you can see videos hearing them I and I was clicking this bullshit because I didn't even watch the billboard awards or whatever. But I clicked it. I think after be sent it to me, and it was just like everything from like, the whistle. Okay. You know, what I thought it was going to be thought it was just going to be unbanned marching up and she. To which I was like, whatever that's annoying, but it was just like the whistling walk walking out to the popping up. And Jessica like behind the stage everything to be on the whistles to. Oh, Mike too. A mock. Rado straight. I Joe that girl cookbook cute. She came out there with confidence too late like, oh, I just got back. I just. This move the hater. Privilege mood really was. Say lover. Pitch. Fully do you know me? Man, bro. No, no, no. Like, why would no one on her tennis? What I will say, no one told you this was a bad idea. Nobody nobody. Rad getting payment. I wouldn't say shouldn't need. It'd be anyway. She always you over her anybody, it just cheapens it so much to me like pants. I did so much to like pull together and like pay homage to like H B and using the ban for a reason. Whereas Taylor's performance felt like she just threw a band slap shit together and five minutes they wanted to playing that was the part that I picked up on immediately. They get it again playing drums. No like, you can hear the sound the back on this like. It looks so goofy. And it was like bounce. That's why they can bounce all this because they're not playing enjoy. It was like a cross between like an energizer bunny commercial. The color of pink was off everything. Just look like throw up parody. Ios like, she make you. BFA thing. I didn't see I only saw come out. And she. So that's. Was I thought it was somebody that was important. I thought it was jaylo thought it was maybe Eggy. Lace? You know what I mean? I guess you're right. Not important. But like. Somebody bit. That's what it was. I think when I've heard it was Taylor. I went back and watch it like two or three times. I'm like, that's Taylor swift. She's been gone for Taylor. People say, Dr Miami S's, she got. Slum? But yeah, I could not believe. That sounds like I couldn't believe that. Either man that shit was crazy for dick. You paler responded. Wondering because he goes before. Right. 'cause I had to read a little bit of the article. Johnson. Yes. With beyond say, so this is a thing with Taylor swift. And why people have such a problem with her in the industry, right? So okay. As beyond say has come up in the industry. She is like taking like a stance on like what she stands for. You know, like she doesn't. She didn't have to say anything because I feel like a lot of people get to a certain point where as I said in the beyond say review like you have to kind of choose a stance on like like after you to a certain point. It's kind of like, okay. Like, what do you stand for who who do you support, etc? Etc. It's gonna come out anyways. But it's good to get ahead of it on the front lines. Just to say where you stand and beyond say has to do the whole like I'm here for black women black people on fuck about what the fuck y'all talking about. I please white people enough with the whole halo shit and that whole tour. Fuck we formation like black power all this shit. Now with Taylor swift. It's very like. Typical white woman kind of ambiguous. And just kinda like, for example. She had a lot of a white supremacist like backing her and she never ever like took fit like she. She never took. Yes, you've ever took a stance against it. She was just kinda like. Sorters around me. I'm not gonna say anything, whatever. She's she's very awesome. Port is good support, you know type shit, and she's never ever denounce that because I feel like a lot of celebrities if they had like a huge white nationalist backing they'd be like, okay, fuck that shit. Let me separate myself from that. Because that's not what I stand for. And she's never done that and on top of that again, another comparison with her and be will. It's not even a comparison because it's like, literally whatever, but anyways with beyond saying what she's trying to or what she does. It's like she pulls a lot of inspiration. Like, okay, I feel like Taylor saying inspiration is a cop out because it's very like reactive to me. So people will call Taylor swift out on something and she'll like back into her corner of oh, well, I was inspired by this person. Whereas beyond say will up front give credits. Like Schroeck credits out tro credits in the middle of the shit. She's naming who she pulled inspiration from she'll she'll dive into. Documentaries about where she pulled her inspiration from and how she got permits and rights, and this and that in the third which is why when people try to her for pulling certain clips from formation, she just laughed because St. was like, I mean, I've been this has been in the works for like years, and I've already gotten the ruble's on this. So you're going to try to soothe me, but I really have the rights. You know, whereas Taylor swift is just like, well, I'm just gonna make a cheap version of this. And I was so inspired. And I don't really know much about it, or you know, the culture behind it. But I think it looks pretty and I kinda wanna piece of this. So let me just. Listen specific thing that she did in terms of like before this. So they were comparing I guess, you know, how artists things in different eras per se. She had like a. When she Kendra came out with that song. Oh, taylor. I forgot what the fuck it was. But she had like this era of like, look what you made me. Do. I don't know what the fuck that about talking about this one. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't because again, I don't follow her. But she has I don't know like beyond her like her lemonade era. And then Taylor swift had some other thing that she did. And it was just a lot of. It was just terrible. That was crazy. So so so beyond say or Taylor has it came out of me any official statements about it. Now, I don't think beyond whatever address something. So to say. And so this last thing we move to common commentary. So what do you got an owner? If you got all this. But so Michael Rapaport said that beyond say. I'm kinda sticking him to say. Knowing what he's saying. So his tweet was so Taylor swift stove from beyond say who stole from Gwen Stefani. Who stole from Fleetwood MAC in the nineteen seventies dumb asses and don't folks invited him. It sell long and black culture kicking the fuck out. It's time to go ninety going nowhere. He needs to go. Commentators. He he's he's, but he's always been involved. Yeah. You'll yo yes. Hype? Lebron? The shark going with learning. He was a higher learning. He's been a lot. But I yeah, he no he's he's definitely not someone to be like, oh, we don't know why the fuck you're here. But at this point, it's like, we don't talk. Him. Like, he's he's always he's always had a place within black culture. But he's wearing out. His welcome. You know, speaking on. No, no, he does gives them the right to talk about what music is good in terms of hip, hop and bad. Even the right. Yeah. He's been Alaw. Yeah. He's been he's been a part of the culture since the fucking eighties. He really even before that like I like giving back to black people and stuff. Soon as he grew up in New York. I wanna say like Yonkers and all of that stuff. Like, he grew up like around Mike Tyson like he grew up like he grew up in that era of Harlem, and you know, what I'm saying like like he he grew up in. So that's the reason why he he has a say he knows behind produce trap documentary. Like he he's in there. So if I ain't going nowhere about how Taylor swift is by fall for the banana tailpipe him. I disagree. I think he's fucking up. Now, it's always for some bullshit about him overstepping, his bounds in black culture. And that's only a recent a recent thing, I think link three times, that's what? To me again looking. Yeah. Fuck out. He's been he's been actually doing semi good things for a very long time. And he's been making statements about like, the real hip hop that type of shit, but it just seems like recently he's been opening mouth and sticking his book. The fuck one has people. He's aside. Like, dude stop. Yeah. That's what it is. Anyway, I want to know some before comic commentary. Have you already got go hit the okay from? The sonic. The hedgehog thing y'all seen his. Trill trill. Nick wanna change sonic hedgehog. Because of all the the back last was a joke. To actually came out. And made a statement saying they're going to change it because it's been so many fucking this. The first time I've seen it this way. I thought it was kind of important in in cinema because that's a lot of money how animation so for them to go back through that and change them up. Like, that's a big thing. So a lot of money. What what people been saying about sonic, like, he just don't look, right or. Get autographs, and I'll really look like. Wow. Ally sonic, this proportions are off like you know, how signing had traditional big hits. He doesn't like that. He's basically proportion on real skinny real skinny. A humanoid body and stuff like it's just doesn't look like him. It's like, you know, we saw sonic the hedgehog. You know, what I mean when he plus year character what the what's the movie going to be about? Story line besides catching. Not really gonna be is like this my robot. Nick, that's pretty much like the Bill. Dr rebutting is like the bows of. Yeah. Okay. I don't know what the overall premises, but they have friends. Box. What is technically? Sonic is alien is an alien in the movie. So, you know, so the government is trying to I don't know. I mean, I don't know. Putting them as alien in in the now the government is trying to catch them. Basically. They they call me because he's an. Daily just did it with any cartoon what the fuck is alien. But he's actually trying to save the world, basically, whatever. Yeah. But but like I just wanted to bring up the point of the directors actually because of all the backlash are going to change how he looks. Jess. That's kinda crazy right away. Shit. Yeah. Shout out your Netflix. Bill is gonna go up isn't several Bama films, bro. Wait, wait, seven Obama. The Obamas got seven projects SIS seven projects on Netflix flicks. So. I'll watch it. Everybody to watch. Just what is what is the? The prisoner. No more. We fought. Recognize on the black people in history. Why lupus in in the Malcolm's? Worry about them. Learn. I'm not I don't really know. I'm not really. Still here, man. He can look we've are talking about Obama. We have. Everybody. Everybody keeps Clinton. By the Nuff. I just I don't really care to watch him talk about his glory days and the presidency because we're not there. Now. I don't think it's going to be going to talk about going to be a show like what was that one rapper Africa in the middle Georgia what killer might. Yeah. It's probably gonna shit like. Hear the name of the project. American factory bloom. Frederick Douglass overlooked listened to your vegetables and your parents. Encrypt camp. He's reducing. Oh, would you say that Nelson says Obama? Show not using shows. Yeah. No neon. That's what we all talked about it. But. Either way ago about to go up. That's all I'm saying nut Fano fucking each vegetables already. Do Angela Bassett has some things I think he just on his executive deal or king? Just getting a king. Right. Jim Carrey would've done that. You know, they don't know why she just came to mind. That's gonna do it for topics. We'll take a quick break. And we'll be back with common commentary. Do do do do do do do. Is to make still on. This episode of is the mic still on is sponsored by seatgeek and event ticket marketplace in aggregate, oh, sports, concert and theater. Tickets. Just download the seatgeek app or go right to seek dot com and enter promo code get in you use that code to get ten percent off your nets purchase at the checkout. Comic commentary. So these comments coming from thread from this week's episode on on on read it. They wanna hear you talk in detail about well, actually, they did when you talk about the Star Wars. You be Mike. Oh me now is looking relooking anyway. Talking to fucking. Like who is? Biggie smalls. Damn somebody actually deuce in the review of the last Jedi on channel. So what was the question? They want to hear what they just basically acid their episode where Mike talks about his full opinion on the last Jedi. Oh, yeah. Then thank you. It was bad enough that to garner. Sorry. He desired it didn't think it was bad enough to garner that reaction from him. She it. So wind goo shout out to win. Kua win. Goo sent them your review with me and the homey Ryan Falcone's. So makes you check out. Yeah. We'll probably do one for Risa Skywalker too. So for anybody else out there that wanted to know the same thing with ROY link in the episode description or you can go to read it check it out there. So this other one is from dark monarch, and he said, I agree with Mike and Shelton on the ban is not really groundbreaking and not really a threat to musicians is going to happen in though, just for the novelty of it. And I think that's alright for experimentation. Maybe some kind of a and human duo would be more interesting also have might wants to hear tech death with more of a human touch, please recommend artificial brains infrared horizon, I've heard it don't like it. But thank you. I appreciate the recommendation those kind of. Yeah. In the last one is from GAC ninety two. So he says yo a love the show and everything you guys do but every time. Go in Andrew show talking about how much he would probably say nigga on his own and other races stuff. Just shows me that you guys have really listed the guy much. Andrew talk many times about how he has never said it and has never said never wanted to say it, he won't even say it. When Charlemagne has given him Charlemagne has given him the past multiple times Schultz, just straight out refuses to say when Charlemagne is trying to get him to slip. I'm just saying you guys probably saying clip or to align and got the wrong impression. I would like to save that is absolutely false because I've listened to multiple multiple multiple episodes of the brilliant idiots podcasts. And is just it's just there, man. So he's not gonna slip up and say it, you know, on there, and while Charlemagne is trying to him because he knows what's going to happen. So he's going to do everything he can to protect his his image. But it sound like a communist unlike affects on. On often. Do we talk about fucking into salts? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a little bit of both. So I just coming in here defendant Andrew show, right after we talked about fucking mayo cello here man rappoport. Yeah. I think he's he's he's another one that I think just you know, he he washing. That's all so he comes across as ally. But based on things that I've heard all know, he might be an ally. But I think he needs to chill with these fucking jokes that he make some of these jokes. Don't sound like jokes. That's all. I'm saying that thing like understand he's a comedian. And but yeah, I think the way you put it spot on sometimes they don't sound like jokes when it comes to him. So we can't really tell and that'd be part of his own stick. I don't know. But you know, it's just you know. Yeah. That's it. So thanks for all your comments, man. We'll jump into some questions. Okay. All right. So we have our questions or strike -ment here. All right. Okay. Send your questions to is the Mike Stallone edgy, mail dot com. If you want your question to be read on the show. We have a quest or not a question. I guess we have a follow up. Hey, guys. My name is Melissa. And I'm a twenty one year old college student my boyfriend recently wrote into your show to ask about cutting off a longtime friendship, I enjoyed the banter about the girlfriend to wife thing. And I also agree with several points. You all made I'm super into your show, and I love the content as well as the fan questions. I'm a new listener. But I love the nature of your discussion. So I would like to ask your opinion on the idea that white women sense of beauty slash worth rely solely on the idea that at least I'm not a black woman, quote, unquote, yet, they yet they still tend to want to take our culture, instead, it culture culture slash setting. And when they're called out on it the women who do the calling. I'll get labeled as haters and like. What? And and and the like and usually by black men. Okay. Sorry. I don't really know what to say. But I hope my question makes it on the podcast. I know this is a generally generalization to me. It's a very solid point that should be addressed as as it is mostly black men who tend to want to make this comparison. Again, I'm speaking in general terms, I guess she has a question kind of tucked in here that again, I will read that says I would like to ask your opinion on the idea that a white woman sends a beauty or worth rely solely on the idea that quote, unquote, at least, I'm not a black woman yet, they still tend to take to wanna take our culture and aesthetic when they're called out on it. And the woman who do the calling out get labeled as haters. So this is a black woman. I thought the guy was. That's what he said his girlfriend was remember? Oh, right. Okay. Anyway. So what are your thoughts? I think it's true to certain extent. I think a lot of people even like like white people. But then also like white passing Latina also like even like lighter skin black women kind of rely on the fact that e either sorry, either a I'm not black or if I am black at least, I'm not dark. You know, they have this whole aesthetic where they're like, you know. Oh, yeah. I may look like this or. Yeah. May look like that. But at least I'm not XYZ. And I think that we see that. Because there have been conversations online where you'll you'll see people say, you're not pretty you're just lights. Good. And I think that comes from the fact that you know, you can have the same features for somebody. And if you were to apply that to somebody like darker skin tone that would somehow change the fact that they're no longer attractive? So I think it's definitely something to explore. And I definitely feel like with people at apply as well. Like, you know. Yeah, you wanna go and. You know, tan to the point where your skin is kind of you that that weird like rubbery thing that happens when like people stay out too long like their skin kind of burns beef jerky. Yeah. It's weird. Seriously. Like, a weird, you know, like you're not supposed to be out that long worn in Levick. Yeah. Plastic or something, and you know, it's like. God. I don't watch reality TV. But what was that name that girl's name, Kim zodiac? I think. No, I think that's her name Kim zodiac. She she and her daughter had her lips plumped up to the point where it's like on some big Ange type shit. And it's like, you know, they'll go tanning like crazy. And there's like literally a whole culture centered around, you know, the aesthetic of pulling certain things from black features. But even you know clo- crash, Ian. Her example on she's half black. No. Even her example. With trend Tristan Thompson when he literally just had a child with somebody else before they got into a relationship. And for some reason, I think that she thought she wasn't gonna get played in the same way. Because I feel like they think that they can assume these characteristics about our from black women, but feel like they're not gonna get played in the same way. It's just weird. Yeah. Like oh. Like, I'm above that. But I still have these attributes that can attract certain people, and I think that's some some some black men, even you know, we'll go as far to kind of give that the go ahead. You know, like, oh, well, I mean once white girl starts working as a rat for y'all or once, you know, why curl star cooking chicken a rat. For y'all like people say. Where I was. I haven't seen this those kind of relying on you know, you guys if you have, but yeah, when she said that that the black man were calling black women haters for calling out white woman for stealing our or they're static. I haven't seen much of that. Until you know, you just mentioned that you may have. So that that seem real interesting to me. Well, it's because I think it's because it's not something that they personally experienced. So it's it can be easy for a black man to like somebody or be attracted to somebody who's white or mixed. But then want to darker girl says, you know, hey, this kind of look similar to me and not not it's hard because I think they kind of write it off as either jealousy or being a hater. And it's not really as much as like, hey, I want you to choose on me or I want you to see me, it's more. So like, you only think this girl is attractive. Because of this and this and this feature when I have all of those features. I'm just not in the package that you are willing to accept it in. And I feel like when we try to have that discussion it gets deemed as like won't man, what the fuck is talking about or whatever because I feel like guys don't really go through that same scrutiny with. Color is into the extent that women are upheld two. So. Yeah. Making a funny face. What is it not? I was just a little profile. I you got you got to think that through. I think that's what that because I'm having the same face cans. That was his thinking about the men don't go through that. I think they do. They just don't they don't let it be publicly known that. It bothers them. I'm sure I'm sure what the whole lifespan dark skin thing with men with light skinned men being looked at as soft and suckers and all that shit. I'm sure that bothers a lot of men since we're in a very much. He's mo- age. You know, I don't know. I I don't I don't I've never seen a lot of men come out and proclaim that it bothers them because they're not gonna do that. It's just not in men's DNA. I think there's a difference between being bothered by something. Which again, your feelings are valid if that is the case, but I feel like it's another. It's another thing when you get pushed out of spaces of that. I don't really feel like, for example, like light skinned men are really pushed out of like job opportunities, or, you know, things in the entertainment industry, or whatever the same way that for example, dark skinned women are pushed out of, you know, even Marla Negra. She couldn't you know. She could only go certain cheek. She could only do a certain thing when she was coming up in love and hip hop. They were trying to get her to straighten her hair when she was known for the afro and all that other shit like your black put your little buck for us. So if you could just lighten it up put a little Creamer in that show. You know, like like there's a certain thing where they're kind of almost expelled out of these certain areas. Whereas I feel like light skinned men, your feelings are valid with you know, obviously people joke about stuff even like with light skinned women. They'll be like, oh, y'all got a big forehead and light skinned women will be like. I was totally I was bullied for housing. Like, I was bullied for having a big forehead, and I was bullied for having really curly and loose hair. And you there are a lot of lights go one who are like even. Oh my God. That thing whites light skinned women have bigger foreheads. It's just like this. Thing that people will say like, oh, if she likes gives you got a big for it or some really Gina didn't have a big ass for hit. No. But seriously. She, you know, the YouTube chick who's like not really are and be but is on the charts for it, or whatever she's suspending biller. Yeah. I don't know if she's black or what she's mixed or whatever. But she's she's even come out with video saying, hey, I was bullied for my super loose curly hair and being prettier than everyone. So like even Ambrose like growing up in Philly. You know, I was lighter skin, and I was teased for it, and whatever, but you still have access to these other things. So it's kind of like who gives I mean, not who gives us cause your feelings are valid if that's how you fell if you really feel like you were bullied or whatever. But you have to understand that you were not pushed out of space is the same way that darker skinned people are pushed out kind of interesting because we were just talking about he'll tell which is sort of similar to what she's kinda riding in about is like here's a white woman as taking a black woman's thing that she did that really became popular. And you know, she put it out there as it was her own, you know. And you know, I guess I don't know if Taylor has spoken out about it. But in the past she hid behind being inspired. So and then, you know, of course, there was a lot of mockery not only by black people. But by publications as well white public relations, actually pointing out that they did that. So I think it's kind of sort of always been a thing where you know, we would culturally create something that would be seen or perceived as cool and then other races Wistar to adopt that you know, as as their their own or they just wanted to do it. And I think my problem with that is I feel like a lot of things that black people or people, you know, in minorities create either to survive or because they're going through a struggle. They create something beautiful out of it. And I think that that's kind of like co opted by other people who have no interest in figuring out what the culture is in like the meaning behind shit. Which is why it feels like it's kind of devaluing with the fuck we went through. This sounds like a different question though, or a different topic that's cultural perpetration versus beauty. So because I'm I will times I think it goes hand in hand or, but what she was asking it, which I think is an interesting question. That's why I've been silence, I'm listening. I don't I don't I've never heard that. Either. This particular question like the way that it's sprays. Okay. Where it's at least. I'm not a black woman. I've definite. We've definitely seen the whole white women doing things that look like black tribute whatever I've never heard it phrased or positioned or framed around. Well, at least I'm not a black woman. I think it's just in different like scenarios. So I don't think it's like overly like talked about or discussed in a way where it's like, oh, it's very concrete that I feel like at least I'm not a black woman, for example, like in spaces where you know, how do I say this? It's like, okay. So let's just say, and I'm gonna use like Latino woman as an example instead of white women. I think that like let's Hino. There's a group of Latino women who are like, you know. Hey, young black men. Love us. Black women are hating on us because we're stealing their men. It's a win for us. And then on the other side, those black those black men who are dating those Latino women are just like. Yeah. They're so spicy there. So this I loved them, and it's like packaged. It's basically like the the way that Latina's essentially are packaged up is basically almost similar to like that of a black woman. Accept the fact that she's literally just not the skin tone or cultural heritage of a black woman. For example. I have a friend who lives in California and everything's just like shit fuck over there because of the color ISM, and like, whatever she's darker skin. She says that she has trouble even like going to like black clubs because they literally will not let people of certain skin tone into certain clubs or you have to pay more or just like some weird shit. So she says she has better luck going to either a mix race club or like a completely white club. Because they're like so much more inclusive, which is why you see a lot of black women dating white guys out there. Whereas she has a friend who's Latina a friend who's Asia. They both have black boyfriends and the way that they talk about their their foreign, quote unquote, women is oh she's so spicy. I love the way that she claps back at me, and this and that but package that in the form of a black woman, and it's ghetto she's angry. She's ghetto. So it's kind of like, I think that's what people are speaking on. It's like they get the room to be ghetto, and quote, unquote, problematic or and loud, and but for them, it's spicy. And it's something that's desired after. Whereas when a when it's packaged in that of a black woman. It's undesirable go always angry. Always. Yeah. She get all that. But I mean, we we should close it out. But I get all that. But I still don't visit interesting question. In in my head. Now, I'm seeing the black men that accusing the black woman of hating. They're the ones that are dating white women. So in order to, you know, make themselves feel better. Shut up. Stay in your place type of thing. Mantra fucking business day who the fuck I want, right. But I think positioning it as your a hater. I don't know. I think this hold this whole. I wish we would have spent more time on that actual question. Because I think it's an interesting question. I think we're bouncing around a bit too much. But yeah, I'm kinda stuck on the way that whole thing is phrase. It's interesting. Well, I think at this is my best way that I could try and wrap it up with what I talked about what the whole blackened dating Asian and white and this and that I think that those women know that they're in a space where they get to be those things, you know, the loud and spicy, and whatever all those things. But at the end of the day, they are in a space where they again can hold over their heads like I can do all these things. But at least I'm not a black woman. So anybody positioning it like that that coming from the Caucasian group? That's what I'm that's where I'm not seeing again. I don't know I'm asking genuine question. I don't pay attention to that kinda shit. Who is phrasing? It that way. Right. Right. Right. Putting that on somebody else or they actually putting that attitude out there. I think it's a little bit of both. I think that. But I think it's more than putting it out there than us putting on them because like I remember not too long ago. Sabrina Claudio, I think she's a singer. But she she had a comment like that and wife you made me have to cancel her. But you know, the o'clock. She's a Spanish Bannet Bush white pass. I want to hear about these white people that are doing that. Yeah. That's because the color is in between, Hispanic and African Americans. That's something that's always been there. And I'm kinda used to that obviously used to white racism. I've just never heard that enlist unless it said in private spaces has insight to that. Right. That in the we just need more clarification. So Melissa we're somewhat stuck a little bit. So yeah, if you can write in which just a little bit more information samples of people that have idea. So we could know saying you're wrong. We don't know. Right. Yeah. This is new to me. So I just would. Yeah. From those examples that I gave it can be assumed you know, that that's kind of the thinking that goes in that thought process behind it. But I mean, yeah, if you have specific examples of white people actually saying that, and again, I don't think she's going to have necessarily examples of them actually vocalizing it because I think that it just comes off in the way that you carry yourself in the way that you act that it's just kind of like, oh, well, you know, at least I'm above that. No matter what I do. No matter how much I still from the store. No matter. How talked to no matter if I hit you no matter if I do this at least you're still going to choose on me because I'm not. This package of person that you refuse today or except to LA starring food. For taylor. That to do it for us this week, man. Thank you guys. Listen to you guys were subscribing guys sharing catch guys next time. We piece.

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048: Brandon Carter - How to Build Muscle on Keto, Protein-Sparing Modified Fasts, and The Positive Side Effects that Come with a Low-Carb High-Fat Diet

The Keto Answers Podcast

52:42 min | 2 years ago

048: Brandon Carter - How to Build Muscle on Keto, Protein-Sparing Modified Fasts, and The Positive Side Effects that Come with a Low-Carb High-Fat Diet

"So. Hello. You are listening to the Kito answers podcast. I'm your house. Dr Anthony Yeston joining me this week is Brandon Carter Brandon has a hell of a story. This guy is an absolute beast. He's the most Jack person I've ever seen to keep agenda diet. And if you do not believe me, go look at his stuff on Instagram YouTube wherever animal a lot of stuff that we had no idea that really surprised me, but his journey through his childhood, and how that drives him now to help other people super fascinating, especially how he maintains his physique using jank diet. So for the do I present you my conversation with Brandon Carter before we get to the episode wanted to chat about sponsor perfect heat out. Perfect Kita is all about making a ketogenic diet healthy accessible with your reading off online guys articles or enjoying perfect exogenous key towns or any other Kito friendly products. Everything you need to make you to work for us at perfect dot com. I know what you're thinking. Hey, aren't you found her perfect hito? Yep. That's right. And all of my insanely high standards have been put into making each and every product my background is a functional medicine clinician helps craft cleanest and healthy as possible products. And best information whether diet head on over to perfect dot com to anything you need to know about the diet. And if you've never tried any of our price before if you use the code Tito podcast for twenty percent of your first order, Debbie and said, let's get into the show. Brandon Carter being on the show. My man, no problem. My pleasure. So you are held guy. You are one of the most intense people and keep community. But yeah, before we start digging to get a little bit more of your story and Chela folks about how where you're at. And so I'm from I grew up in Chicago on the south side in, you know, the would you hear about it is true right room was and it was very very difficult environment. The grow in as a child in you know, a lot of gains in violence in. It was it was rough in peers sided to simulate a merger school in that came with his own set of challenges. How old were you? When you went there. I think I was thirteen fourteen. And what was your what was your demeanor like before that? And we you kind of typical outside Chicago pretty intense get into bad shit, or you know, what I what I wasn't very tough. Right. You know, I was I was the victim. That makes sense. And when I went to military school. I got picked on the live Moore's in military school in baggage Kogyo because I was one of the only poor kids there. I was in like one of the only black kids there in that came with his own set of challenges, you know, not not that the kids were like racist. And you know, just just jerks in our gives a lot of fights in actually how it started getting into. Vince, I wanted to defend myself a little better and. Small like at this point. Yeah. Yeah. I was mall really skinny in like a little fellow heart magin. Mellman now. Yeah. So when I was like six this call his sixteen as when I said, you know, what I'm done with this move. Make something happened in is very difficult, but you know, trial and error in had a mentor guys colony air Muhammad who he was voted with my best trainer Chicago in. I went summer he Lami workout when a no summer in kind like learn what to do. In may some progress on man begging these kids missing me. You know, I can wait the fight air. That's probably wrong mindset. But that's how Phil and then when I got there. Nobody messed with me. And I could fitness does something to you it, you know, that commit to eating rights sleep right in training making all these little promises to yourself every day in and was you make those promises and keep them. What happens is you build a certain confidence. Iggy. What I'm saying? So you it's not like you. You went back with forty pounds of muscle on you. So the the minds, and how you carry yourself is actually it was more the meaner, you know, predators. Praet? You never see a line in line. Right. So it's kind of. They they wasn't displaying the characteristics of someone who who who you should on. And what happened was like some of these kids jerks. They started asking me for advice, and I started training in. What would I notice that? They stop kind of being jerks. Happy successful confident people don't like try to be little others. Right. You know, they don't try to bring others down in started, not jerks. In fact, we all started getting better grades assault. It changed all our lives. And that's what would let me become a trainer I've seen a transformation myself and then being able to help others with limited skill set being able to help others. I realize that that's something was on dedicate my life to that. When you went that direction as far as kind of like, this is what I want to spend my time and the rest of my life. Not one hundred percent. You know, I I knew that it was so into going to in college college for business as marketing major, but I knew you know, my my the graduated Kozel. Seventeen in Java. Got was a trainer Jim part time job. And I thought I was going to do that. Until college. Then. It is out of college. Because was that was gonna be vision of professional musician. I was at college outside the Sony records as rapper producer. And then I got dropped from the label. Then kinda Bill back on this past procedure. You're signed to to Sony. Yeah. Man. I'm I was good. Because you know, when I was in college every school in DC Howard University in every every major artist at the time, we're talking about early two thousand so everybody every rapper whose popular around that time when it came to see like, you know, me some of my friends we were good enough to be like opening acts. Call the attention of some people in in your Sony records, and that's out of having you and what what happened there emerge Sony, merged BMG right after knowledge so imagine right this I'll play guitar drums. Keyboard another good at any of now. But when I saw, but I always thought it'd be professional musician in some capacity. And so this is like my dream. I thought I had emerged the G at drought in also kind of down. But also, I kind of got disenchanted with the music industry. For. I dunno. In music industry is to Newsweek what pornography is two six. Right. Appalachians? And in. That's cool. I'm standing I'm now, go business. I'm a businessman Europe. As I understand the business of it. But I came into it from the from artist and point in. It was just made me not want to. Be involved with the business part of that makes sense. Yeah. Totally. I actually almost went down that road myself. I was to music production. I play guitar lie, and I was really leaning towards that. And the same time wanted to help people and it was kinda early on on the path as well kind of conflicted. Yeah. Crazy, Josh when I was after high school and from that point like I had to take time. Like, I could sing I couldn't like it. It destroyed my confidence there and was like completely went another direction. So worked out for. I think for you, man. I think the impact you having on people now is crazy. I mean, look some your channels like millions and millions of people. So it's one of these like, yeah, you could have had that maybe with being on Sony, and like if you would have done that but the actually change people's lives. I mean, I think the far greater magnitude. I think you're right to you know, I think if you resumes, which I wanted to do it because I wanted to do it as far as just threat Sam. But with fitness is no people always want me to help them. Right. So I was always still back on because people kept asking for and at some point. I kinda head the realization will maybe this is a selfish endeavor. Right. Trying to push my music on the world in. Maybe I should give them what they want. Right. Maybe I should be more like coming more from serving. That makes sense. Yeah. Totally. And after that point is when you head headfirst into training and take an full-time or is that. You know? It was there was some. A lot in between the years out. I don't I don't know how friendly friendly is. But down dark pass from there. You know? There's a lot of struggle, man. Lot of difficulty in I regret during that time. You know, right. When I left Sony, I was still training people. And and then I got men I'm hesitant to say all this. If you're come on as. Okay. Again. I'm from Chicago. Right. The south side. So you know, you forbid or for worse you become like the people you around you've heard that before. Right. And it's it's I I was in New York at this point didn't have, you know, didn't have my deal anymore now. All right. I liked your stay here. But also wanna make some money. So. So the economy wasn't so great in. So I thought okay, how do I wanna make some money? Well, I know I grew up around a bunch of criminals and drug dealers and stuff. And so I said, oh this this'll be quick in easy. And in a part of me thought this was before I committed to fitness the party dot, okay. I'll do this. It don't make the money to do to support myself in also made even come out some independent music or something. So I started I got got heavy into dealing drugs. Like like serious night. Not not like some guy on on the coroner. I was like I had an operation, you know. And I was going back and forth from Miami, man. Put the degree of work, right? Yeah. Yeah. Fortunately, and you know, a lot a lot of things happen. And I did that for a while successfully. So the rappers talk about really doing it like I was living that kind of. Kind of lifestyle and something's happened. To become like a PB around. So one of my one of my buddies. His name is SV Minna grew up Wenham Kogyo, and he was doing the kind of same stuff right in as the guest. He has since his to life in prison. You know, he he got into some altercation emerging guessing the life life present news, childhood one of my best friends, and then I had another friend Esko who's is his real name Esco in. He he was actually murdered. They've got him murdered in jersey car was shot up in in in in. Now. It's like, wow, this, okay. This is the they were all involved with Steph. I'm in is only matter time for this catch up to me. Right. You know in in would really. Made a difference. My father ended up he community USA, my father committed suicide. He was involved in stuff. He shouldn't have been involved in as well. And in. And that's what they've got like Sears. I really feel. Realized I needed to make a change I needed to to change my life. You know, change, my certain change people around in in do something that I could be proud of you know, I wanted to to support my family at this point. I'm the man at the out of the house. So at aside, you know, do something in these to be legally be something, you know, respectable in. I wanna help people. 'cause I knew the downside wasn't helping anyone, you know. I was you know, drug dealer thing this man through to get it from you if someone else right in. E not untrue. But you're not helping the situation. Right. You're taking advantage of of these people who have problems right in and I never set. Well with me, you know, but I was young kid selfish. But this was this was the up call that these deaths around me in. So I decided I quit doing all that because I was a kid. I didn't save any money. So as bro. So I started working three jobs. I have still training people had some clients. I started working for a moving company, mama buddy on the moon in the mother ran a restaurant in. I was working. I was running the restaurant part time and. Man. I did that for for a while. And I was really take this fitness something to the next level. This is where my there's only passionate I had left that makes sense. So I decided to I wanted to really do it and I wanted to but personal training wasn't going to be enough. Like just train people wanna one. It wasn't just wasn't enough. So many hours Dana, I want I read a book called a four hour work week in old me, I can do it on the internet. You know, like the sounds normal now, but that was a novel idea, you know. You know in in in. I didn't really know how I struggled in in started doing online courses and stuff in in trying to build a following a line in the end work these of degree jobs. It was two years of that like fourteen hour days six days a week until I got to the point where against quit one of the jobs could another one, and I start trained people wanna one and I was only doing stuff online fast today. I have seldom company, you know. It's not as big as yours, but I'm catching up. Settlement company. I do courses online Chinese seven figure business, fifteen employees. Customers all world around world have office in man pin off his emand cool central park in. Yes. Yeah. Now at teach other on how to start their own businesses as well to bring their on coaching to be. To be exact teach them how to do it. So they might accomplish their goals during his and help more people hell of a few years, man. I know with this man think about it. So I mean now that you're you're kind of sewing doing things the right way. Do you let that stuff continue to fuel you or what what is pushing you now to reach new heights and do new things as it still some of that. Or is it just trying to be better every day? What do you what do you attribute that mindset to where you are announced? That is the question is. I just always been real ambitious. You know, I think. Really am vicious even to even want to be a lot of people wanna be like professional entertainers. But I was serious about, you know, in or in, you know, when I was, you know, selling drugs, I wasn't going to be a corner Guyana corner serious about and I'm serious about this. I try to approach everything with intensity, you know in. But this is the most feeling right? Because you know, what we have a wall a two walls full testimonials in our office from people whose lives change, many gave me that same feeling. I get when I was. Going by school in a train those kids, you know, I know how to change someone's life on what kind of confidence it gives them. I know that that transfers to when they change their bodies in. They won't talk different. They end of doing better in school or work in to be able to do that. At scale is probably I mean, it's probably thing. I'm most proud of in life is being helped so many people like on Instagram king, Kito Graham. Hundreds literally those under his of transformations that people are semi from the innate tribute are held to. I don't know man is just is the great feeling for me. You know? So obviously, you king Kita as you mentioned totally into that game. And I mean, the fact that which of course, you are you one of the most Jack de they've ever seen on Kito possibly that. I know of so when did you get into Kito and how did that transformation happen? Was that along the way? What what point in the story? Did you flip that switch and learn all about Kia? Okay. So I looked one part of my my life story out. There was a point where allowed definitive modeling. But I only did it like on the side kind of you know, you know mill models. You know, you know, made a lot of money. So it was like a part time like just whenever agency called meals with a New York, but I'll still hustling right is. It was a cool thing at some suffered a night Dita's brand, Jordan. But it was unlike. It wasn't. Enough to to live on right? So anyway, but, but I did it was cool. When when back when I was young and beautiful and and. When I used to have to get ripped. I would go and low cards, right? You know, for for shoe or magazine or something like that in where did you learn that was that from somebody else? Did you learn that through experimentation for you? Or I think I think that was something that you know, I at this point I had been training for two years. And I noticed my clients or other people in just a lot of studying, you know. You know, everybody builder before the on stage. They cars, right. Your to get the ribs faster in Gabbard waterway in approached the same approach to the same way for everyone soups in. But what I noticed what I've noticed man was I would I would feel better on low carbs where I would feel better in and it wasn't Kito at this low cars right in my skin would get clear in this. This got to be something to this. And I just kept in my mind, and then, but I never went food like hito or stay low carbs. I would always just go back to a traditional almost bodybuilder style died in. But it was like, I don't know three or four years ago. I went to get a checkup and end just normal for my sheri- in another nothing crazy in in. They said did Meyer. Macalister roles sky in so high. They wanted to put me on on standards for like man, I'm only like, you know, in my early thirties. I don't need to be on, you know, cholesterol drugs, and they gave you for it didn't feel it. But I had known some guys, you know, I trained people with Sartre Kito just Wilma careers came up sometimes training on keyed on low cars, and I knew that it hasn't benefits. I studied it in. I know Jimmy more right? So like conversations with Jimmy in some of the guys in Kita community thought as did eating more research. The man, you know, what? There's research shows that Kito can help with cholesterol. Maybe I should try to synthetic drugs. Right. And I did I just went full keyed over for the first time. I grew Kito hyphen said are just low carbs, and what happened was amazing within my my cholesterol levels dropped a hundred points within the the first month. I went back to my doctor Mondays ago. Mass amazing. You didn't he couldn't believe that? I didn't take the drugs like I'm just saying. And in what what did he say when you said it was from an all fat diet or not. I did not cause it's funny man, like Lee. Okay. So here's the thing. Amanda, my dismay in his car cholesterol, as we take these bills, and maybe try to do some diet and exercise like. Don't be the next. Oh, okay. That was all right sure thing in. So I knew he didn't know, wait. But he was talking. I'm sorry out. And so I just I say eight yet died exercise, you know. But what I noticed was in my skin was clear in just had so much more energy in in in evanger preneurs. Like, the energy was just was the main thing that made the energy to mental focus. These are these why do man that's why. Yeah. Why I keep a keep a thing. I have no way to lose. And obviously. On people associated with fat loss thing. And that's just not the case any ripped right? But this has so many other benefits. My can't win my cameraman, man. He he tested his first time. He just rocky, and he was one point five innings band out. I feel so different. He said he's less tire in heavy on, you know, how do you point his twenty minutes? And he said, he just he has more energy. If the twenty year old has more energy than guys like us thirties, you know, we can definitely benefit as well. And so when you start feeling better yourself, did you start switching everybody your organ with straight Kito or did you little experimenting first for yourself or how is that transition? You know, man, I don't push it on on anyone, you know, kinda just put this is what I do in. Now at the point where like if you want to work with me. This is what I do is this focus on this is my niche in you know, there's a lot of guys who can who can. Work with you. You know, some of the way it was a slow process. But now, it's like easy. You come to me. If you went Kito anyone like muscular you and be like you wanna put on Ma be rent. You know, a lot of Kito community is is is not a lot of guys like you said who are like rigged, or or or have or muscular or athletic for whatever reason in people that you can make people that you can't build muscle on it. Or can't you can't have the look you want with get on. And I disagree. So anybody wants that kind of look, you know, a more muscular athletic look in wanna do with Kito than on their guy. I don't push it only, buddy. Are you doing anything kind of unconventional in the in the sense of Kim died and how it's typically done versus doing a your way he learning things as protein ratios timing food amount of food of cetera that is working for you your clients? So this is if you things that I've noticed especially for putting on mass, and you articles I've read like yours articles about the dispelling the myth that you can't build muscle on Kitahara read to me or material. What I do. One of the things is if you're trying to build muscle. We put the calories higher than we normally would. I don't know why this works. I have some theories in talk some other people who are smarter than me about him. Maybe you can enlighten me not to down the icy. No, some of the guys, but I actually would like take on this. I think you need more calories to build on Kito. Then you need to build muscle on cars instinct. When you think? Yeah. That may be for people who keep the ratio of fat protein in carb's way, where it is probably need to because I mean when you look at it when you literally when you break down. Also, you need a no acids circulated up goes and building blocks, and so the two options here like like, you said balloon entirely and get more calories across the board, which I mean, they showed studies that that show that even if you're at a certain point like an ice o'clock, diet versus diet of genetic. That has more calories feeling who eat more calories actually lose more over lump period of time. Yeah. So I mean, there's a lot of signaling things that we're not aware. But I think that probably the biggest driver is just keeping the ratio where it's worth locked instead of saying, okay? I'm going to go to mass protocol or billing protocol and just increasing protein, relative macronutrients can fixed. And it's always fifteen percent twenty percent, then then you have to increase of fat, and that's just going to increase overall, caloric load, pretty substantially. I mean, there's probably a lot. Different things going on. But that's my initial hypothesis having not through this at all yet. I think it's like that to keep the ratios the same ratios the exiting I experimented with you know, like a cyclical Kito. I just don't like it as much. I don't like the way I feel on the the height Harbitz same for me. It's just then I trash brain doesn't work while and low energy for one or two days. It's like those two days, even if I would have other gains areas are just not worth it to me too. Once twice a week. Let let me ask you question. Do you think it's worse for us on those days because we're we're so a fat adapted or is that how everyone always feels in. We just noticing more. We're probably going back to baseline. I mean the way I think about it is generally speaking when you clean up health, especially something like Kida, and you've just felt like shit for such a long period of time. It's like you're driving the highway for five hours, and you never turn on your your wipers to to clear off your windshield. When she was during his all hell, there's bugs all over it. And you just can't see us like you've gotten used to that. And so what happens is sometimes you get clean some of this stuff. Then you wipe that windshield clean, and you go. Oh, man. This is what it's supposed to be like, and then one bug hits it any oh, man clean that thing off. Whereas if your windows dirty and kids, you're not gonna notice it have as much of a reference point. And so that's why I mean, a lot of people that I worked with over the past once they've you know, three or four six ten months, or whatever it takes for them to get totally clean in feeling way. Better alone transition that then they they go out and get wasted one night. Either punch a grilled cheese, sandwiches or something. And then I wake up and like holy shit. Is this how you used to feel? And the answer is usually. Yeah. All the time. He just didn't realize it because you frame of reference with support happens. So you have different different perspective and point of view than baseline that makes total. I wasn't sure it was just worse or or that was a case suspected that was the case. But you know, you're you're you're you're you're you're doctor. And I'm trying to figure it out. You know, it makes total sense. You know, so cyclical is not really my thing. Not to say that I won't have a day. Every once in a while, you know, where you know, some that's happening is cars on thanksgiving. You know, things like that. Whatever. The difference teams. I think that a lot of people do it and they okay eating Kita. And then on Sundays five hundred grams of carbs aren't even working out there. Not like you not to eat five hundred car. This is this is the thing. You don't need a pound down donuts ice cream candy just because it's a car briefy day. Like, it's not it's not a challenge either sweet potato. The plan Tange is not a challenge. That's the thing. You know people. Initially. It was a channel man, I'm just every car incite. But now, I don't even my my tastes change. So it's not even satisfying to me like that. I don't look at that stuff anymore. And I think man, which I can have that. I'm usually go to how I know feel like I'm repulsed almost the association with a longer period of time. And so this you seen this with athletes that you've worked as well that pretty much no matter what there's people limit two x amount of carbs, or do you think? That's when people like let's say with with a bunch of different professional athletes and seeing people perform a little bit differently. Yeah. Some people just do well on more carbs. And that's just the way it is. What have you noticed as far as you've worked with in different sports specific? Here's the thing. I took my my experience is. I. First year and a half on Kito attested at blood tests every morning and every night, right hours. I was obsessed with it. You know, I, but I wanted to get data in Saint tracking mackerels pretty meticulously do that. Anyway, I keep a scale in my bag, you know. The next right? No, it has to do that. But that's that was me. I just wanted to get the data. And when I realize I think because I I'm not sure because of muscle or is because of my training or combination, but I can take my protein to around thirty thirty percent. And I can actually take my car to ten percent. If I want in stay he told us. In as like a recommendation, but that's what I can notice myself in ethic. It has allowed. You know, what I'm trying to believe this is more individual variants. Meaning like, we have the ratios that we say are the Kito genyk ratio. But this seems to be some individual variance. It would that. If staying he tells is your goal. I honestly feel one hundred times better if eat more protein on titan FM Costa thirty percent, Mark good fifty or twenty. So I mean, that's me obviously going to be different. But I thought I feel. Yeah. Yeah. So I just noticed it. So I get people like the traditional ratios initially see how they feel and then it can be adjusted based on. Based on how they feel right? You know in. I I don't get into the keystone testing that much anymore. I just feel how exactly you know, in because especially now, it's hard for me to register a would be considered Kito right on on a blood test is after years of being an eye doctor down the external about that. He said that is because I'm so doubted. I want your take on this stuff. He's 'cause I'm so adapted that my buddies actually using heat owns more effectively in it's not so around my blood anymore. Yes. Same with me. Like when I test, and let's take key tones. I'm never about like point six point eight we're not used to when I was first cranking into it one point five two point. Oh, no problem. Yeah. Trips a lot of people out and they instead start chasing a number of. In place of something like chasing, how they feel or what they actually care. But as far as results goals, and that you'll get tripped up and not really doing the right reason. Stop testing because point three it totally helps for P. I mean, you also have one hundred and eighty pounds more muscle than I do. So that's different. But I mean, I think it's just it's really helpful in the beginning to kind of get that sense of. Okay. When does feel like this. This is kind of an associated feeling same thing. I think a lot of people train heart rate zones for working a lot lately. And now, I can I have a sense of when I'm at one fifty one sixty versus one hundred twenty beats per minute. I know how that feels and I can I can dish heart rate training and looking at my apple watch that right? Same thing with when you have Kito says and keystones and you're like, yeah, it's good for indication to beginning. But like you said overtime if you'll keep chasing that one inches irrelevant. And then to that can become discouraging a long period of time even four to six weeks can dipping down. Yeah. Yeah. And it's also so many variables tests. What I realize, you know, if I'm walking by train. After. If I if I after training, then seemed like wouldn't be Kito aid something right before even with perfect hito Magris is a lot of different lot of variables. So I can't stop testing out attempted to get, you know, an average in what I can do what based on how however feel would would have been interesting. I wanna know your take on his is little bit of carbs before training seems to make a difference for some people. Qatari? It is down. Do you know, Louis views or? Yeah. Gaza savage, obviously like and he advocates for that in. He says I mean, even to ten fifteen twenty grams cars beforehand before training, it makes a huge difference where people, and I think for for guys special your size, and if I hit a really hard workout, I feel kind of the same way where like you'll have somebody you can only produce Kitone so fast. And once you get rid of all those here by selling. Okay. We have to wait for these things to be produced again instead of just being able to to dip in your glycogen, your carbs drilling pretty low. So you don't have that backups worse than so like flooding your bloodstream Olympic carbohydrates when you burn through both Keaton's Anglo coast can help you work out harder and longer. And so that's what I mean. I've seen that as well. That's what I noticed. I mean, I'm I'm gonna like sixty grams of before and in that might be a little much. Savage. So yeah. So it depends on hard to write really hard to go. So that that's one thing. I noticed for athletes is some Gaza responding better. You know on a on that in in for bodybuilders people going there look a while. I can start looking flat almost which is just look smaller in I can see it in. That's that's when I'll force myself to have a car day, but it was usually afternoon like a car after. But even thanksgiving, I didn't eat cars until the end like two before. I went to sleep in the next workout was amazing. Right. So if I'm gonna eat like carbs when they will be later in one day after day week or not even a week just on film, living smaller something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I actually feel and notice the same exact thing of just size and how I feel in general feel waste certainly love smaller ratchet down carbohydrates, but I mean e carbs a couple of days or even like you said one or two meals than get that pumpkin pretty easily. Yeah. I have some I wanna ask you about man. He's supposed to be. When I'm gonna with expert mclamb, you wanna get your expertise. So I had this program is is really it's probably the most my is deadly my most difficult program and protocol, I even tell people listen don't try this is like break glass in each you have to like lose a ton away in short amount of time. And it's called the Terminator two week die. That's what I call it. But the it was appropriate right in the diet part of it is more like a protein sparing. Modified vast familiar gay men when I did that my I was surprised my keystones went sky high. But it was all protein like almost one hundred percent protein only did it for like two weeks rice kill me. Right. Hit back in that low in carbs that are trying to get him to zero in almost all in my key tones went high, and I not have explanation for that. Yes. That's. I think just eliminating every source of carbohydrate, and I did the died for a while. And if you mess around this stuff, but yeah. Yeah. Eight only meet for five and a half weeks and same thing. I keep go crazy. Probably because you just we protein Spurs spring mount hood fast your calories super-low. Was your body was just mobilizing fat for fuel at that point. Like so difference between a normal two three thousand calories of steak has fat and protein. Nobody. Okay. You have fuel in your bloodstream Nobile ready to rock. We don't need to make as many towns. But then what happens is if you do that same thing but rushed calories -nificant lane. Six seven eight hundred calories. Probably is what you're you're which is traditional pretty very manifesto. That was over yet. For me is a little more. It was probably like it was probably like nine hundred nine hundred two thousand or. Yeah. And we still significantly lower. At that point. I mean, the future is just a love your body has a mobile add more fat. And so that's probably why people are doing it for for your getting such great results. And I've actually had a lot of people do that that have worked with not maybe two weeks or so but one or two times three times a week. And I think that people instead of doing intermittent fasting where we extract everything has stress the body you'll get anybody all this protein so can actually maintain normal function and stressed out. But you're you're taking the fat and the fuel source. So then it has us all if you'll not only burning fat, but also. So in the regular blood sugar limit more, so people who are awfully damaged. They. I mean, it takes a while a long time for them to get back to normal place if eating normal food, they don't respond to it with with basically mad about damage every time I eat something. And so that's a really good tool for that as well. But yeah, two weeks. I didn't. Call is based off like your body that percentage if you like low low teens, or or even high single digits, then you'd have to reef days, but out that they would be Kito days where you need like a little bit over a little bit over maintenance. Instead of cars, we we won't on. But if they had higher body fat than like, if you really have and maybe your EP days every two week once just once you just have one, but most people have one reveal they week in also had them. We all walked about ten miles a day. On that. You know? Now, the only hardy that low study state Los as they 'cause we wanted to get main developed his back when I was modeling because it kind of came it kind of came out of that, you know, 'cause I get a call our man you got to voters in two weeks. I'm like, and I'm not photo. She ready, and I saw this is the best way for me to actually get lean out as fast as possible while maintain his muscle eaten small month protein in walking. Yeah. Yeah. It was a lot of protein actually, man. Like, we give my two hundred grams of protein only in how you getting protein shakes. It was like Mula shakes lean chicken lean like chicken breasts in there. Yeah. Very lean meats in, you know, a protein shakes, you know, like, or you know, I superior was a going for that. 'cause almost all protein in end. Into Starbucks hunger. Exotic. Got interesting. In then maybe that that made my keys levels higher as well. But not that hybrid. Like, I was getting crazy numbers that I had never seen close the four, you know. And. Last time. I did I had a scam. Man. I win this game before the skin after in the here's the poured. It really blows me out. I've been meaning acts someone your expertise about I had increased lean body mass. It doesn't make any sense. So when did you get the Dessus can I got this skin the day before I started? And then when afterwards the day after so some of it might have been watered like as it was after it was over got. Yes, what I'd noticed actually with facets of a similar thing where if I'm fasting for a long period of time three four five six seven days and then eat normally for a couple of days after that. It's almost like a stress where your body. I mean, just like a workup. I mean, would you be you worked out and then after that gain muscle mass over a long period time, of course, not? So you breaking stuff down recycling old tissues and billing backup. And so there's a resiliency I think that your body goes through where I mean protein sparing modified facets like they're starting to with research. Even in that range of for use calories. Probably hitting at work. Modified fast cleared, a lot old cells and break down lot of stuff. And then after that your body is shit. We should probably make sure that this doesn't do this again or can last longer happens again. So has a rebound effect. Where you go over that. Actually, I've done it much longer fast and test my blood work. And I notice the same thing in scans and everything. Wow. That's amazing. That's amazing. Because it wasn't just me either one. When my business partners do to and we've got the Dessus games. We both had increased we will lower by that an increased. Most increased lean body mass in without notices in. This is not abnormal. But I didn't lose as much as other people people were like, the almost like the more money, the more you have to lose NSS pretty, but we know that right? Like read was by Vassar, the more you. Just interest. Establishing what was kind of interesting is more about how you some people do. Protein one one once or twice a week? That's interesting protocol. Yes. So it's just kind of way to mix things up instead of having people becoming a set every single day just kind of throw in a day where where they're getting under that under that kind of a stressful condition, but not removing all food sources and. Taking away an entire mean. If you remove half or two thirds of someone's eating two or three times a week that's up to one wonder two days of essentially not eating when aggregates over course of the entire week and over the long period of time. I mean as much as that getting it's questionable science around X amount of calories, and you have to burn same amount that straightforward, but do matter some extent, and I think that that can kick start a lot of different metabolic processes without having to be so intense. Like, if I told them, you probably have some some hard people coming through your program because you probably try to person. But if I tell you know, someone who's never done any real dieting has really truly not that much self discipline. You have to do this kind of ridiculous and aggressive type of shifting for ten straight days. Eight straight days nine days to weeks, whatever they can handle that. But if you tell them. Time a week two times a week. They okay, they do it. It's not that bad. Then you go back into normal diet, and then they can just maintain that chopping that in and then you can build from there. So I think it's just kind of like meeting somebody where there as well. And probably worked with in the past a little bit of the people that you've worked with in the past. Oh, yeah. Definitely marketed like the most aggressive thing called it. Terminator two week, right? Because I only wanted people I didn't want anyone to get involved with this. If they wanted the right person involved us. I mean cleared it was it was not for most people, you know. Yeah. You know, what I get that about Tito like people think just regular Kito died is too difficult for most people in and that Stanage? Just me because this is the easiest. In most enjoyable die protocol I've ever tried enough tried so much have you noticed a lot of resistance in that two people try and keep joint for the first general like this. I got when when I first went publicly went keyed only starting advocated. I got so much pushback. I could not believe it. I had people making just the mere mention of it. I had people making forty minute YouTube videos about how much I suck. You know, how this is going to kill vegans and stuff how much how this is gonna kill everyone. Give everyone cancer. Then this is. Has gone away. Or is that I mean, I don't think that hate every goes away. No. Excuse me week, man. Yeah. More. What is you? What is it people always having excuse to be weak? Yeah. You know, you have a solution. It's not like you're saying every do you ever a potential solution for people, and they freak out because it's not what they had in their mind. It's such a crazy thing to me right in then, you know, a lot for my community the right? They they you know now with they're doing or what they're selling. Right. So they they came out DM Italy against it in Basta guns, because it's just beneficial for me, you know. I mean dieting on carbs is a nightmare that that's was hard. I totally agree. If I try to eat lower calorie carbohydrate diet, like even if I normal on carbohydrate diet, I'm hungry every fifteen minutes. Yeah. Yeah. For real like for the cameraman and say, he just he just started keyed in what I was telling him is you got to eat more. Now, I'm not more than he was. But he's not eating enough 'cause he's not hunger. And I gotta eat some. In this weird place where you're not hungry, but you still can eat boo. Totally right now, actually at the end of a fast or something, you know, filling all the time I over eat more that. So what is what is next for brand car, man? You know, been excited is only started doing partnerships with perfect Kito. That's next is is is joining join team and behind being the savage in bring the letter perfect or what? Yeah. That's one of the things. I'm excited about a lot. You know, when I when I first met you in you guys, I was doing. A little deal with another company, and it did not bad. There's nothing wrong with him. It's just Matt feel like you guys have the best tasting be and something about products this at the most. But I was I was in a deal in in now that I'm free from that. I'm just excited to be, you know, working with you. I have seldom myself, but I was going to always going to be. But I don't think I can do a better than than yours. Paid Brandon a large sum of money to make comments in this in this. Immediate man. Like, I'm looking this chocolate this chocolate one man is special about it. You know in chocolate will empty powder. I wanna get in the coffee. That's what I meant to tell you the coffee. So I have unfortunately stock for for a little bit. But yeah, I mean that one is huge huge that one that's one of the ones that I consumed daily, and especially because it's it's not as much as like if I get crazy, and it's just it's too much. And so I mean with and there as well, I feel my energy's is amazing after. See I mean. Thanks. Thanks for the kind words. Really? Appreciate it. And only give tip to users business school here. I haven't heard anyone talk about this. Maybe I'm just I don't have my ears history much. But man if you'd have caffeine, I morning. I can morning in these coming maybe not but camping MCAT in key tones is like rocket fuel. Is is the only is the best thing you can take this legal or energy. You know, seriously man something about on empty stomach. It's just a another level. I've noticed that have you ever. Yeah. I mean, so my routine is what happens is I wake up. Yeah. Sitting between six six and seven typically, and then walk downstairs and pour myself scooping half of our pre workout and has caffeine key towns entity in it. And then I go to Jim had Jim. And so that's that's my protocol. So I'm doing the same thing. Everyday man. I how much does your pre work. So two scoops for me gives me like I think ten or eleven grams or a half seven Yaron seven in the regular school. Okay. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Man. I mean that'll do it. That'll do it like that that stack right? There is some about it. Yeah. For me as well. I used to crush to scoops accessions Keaton's at a time as I mean running in Tricia akitas don't need as much and so even though bit from the pre workout is will enough me and keeps fuel then. Today. Recording people uterus and fire. I'll probably hit another scoop at some point throughout the day. But ultimately, it's. Started started a mill Tito mil per delivered. He'll meals only in New York Austin yet now yet man, but like we were not, you know, delivery. We haven't worked at out yet, logistics. Interesting challenges. What's what's coming is? It's Tito prep. Pro awesome. Romay we had some delicious recipes per good Kito mackerels in its. Some real proud. We wanna take that to the next level in twenty nineteen awesome. Where else can people find you Brennan? Is a good spot. I have a grim king Kito. Also have another is just a Kito Kito on like, what was it called, you know, impo graphics got Kito hacker shop in a, but you know, what kinky towing try to best place the divine right now any entity need, you find era that's going on now Yeming, but Renan, man. No problem. Thank you so much. I love the has been pleasure. All right, everyone. Thanks for listening to another episode of Kito answers podcast enjoyed it. But even if you didn't I lover of youth over items wherever you listen to your podcast pop review. So we can get found but more people you'd better guess now. The information that you need to please go to the wherever you listen your podcast these review if you need to head over to perfect dot com slash podcast and into your Email roller top tips and guides and getting with Cajon diet. Thanks next time.

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Laura Kightlinger  Aneurysm Shmaneurysm

Mental Health Comedy

42:58 min | 2 months ago

Laura Kightlinger Aneurysm Shmaneurysm

"The oh wow ladies and gentlemen boys and girls. Children of all ages insecure people around the globe. You have come to the right place. This is the mental health comedy. Podcast with ed crasnick jennifer kalari time head. This show where we talk about mental health issues. And certainly everybody's fine in the world so there's really no need for the show but we not only talk about the. Actually we learn. We've practiced mental health skills. Simple skills things that ever taught us that somehow is related to how we how we live. And when i say we i mean me. The whole show is for me. It's not anybody but me. Welcome aboard there's a lot to talk about a lot happening in our country. But what i'm excited about is our guest. One of my favorite people just the greatest sense of humor the very talented writer very talented actors stand up comic for many years has has done so many different kinds of interesting. Things directing Writing so the show penn fifteen and her who. She was played a part on that. Show that this. So good and the minor accomplishments of jackie whitman. Her own series on. Ifc and in the movie. Lego batman which you know what can you say. Those are great things. And that's laura kite linger. Laura is gonna join us in just a minute. We've had tremendous technical issues Today the beautiful thing is technical. Issues plus neurotic ju- equal success. That's the formula. Welcome to the show. So jennifer's coming up in just a minute. We're going to talk. But you know what i thought we talk about today. Some different things one thing is how do you stay well in your head when you're not feeling well physically and that's a question for you know for the whole world right now because so much of the world is going through you know physical issues now and that's something i've always wondered because what happens to me as well. No different than than feeling better is that i'm out of my mind. Basically in your head you go a little crazy. And i wanna talk about that. I also wanna talk about how you maintain a positive outlook while having a very dark sensibility. Dark of humor. Which which. I you know i have. And we'll talk with talk with laura about that but you know before we start here. People of things I wanted to just say that. There's a lot of mental health awareness. Things going on now which is great because awareness is such a big part of you know feeling better taking care of yourself and when i say you i don't mean me i mean you're taking care of yourself. I'm doing what i'm doing. Whatever the hell that is a couple of the festival's coming up. There's a lot of like a special promotions and campaigns. That are coming up around different issues. And i want to share them with you national take your insecurities to week is a big one. That's coming. I'm sick of everyone. Being in my business month is one that you know is not popular but it's out there be kind to your hands day. Big one international soap appreciation week. Liken fear chela is a musical music festival. people come to share their deepest. Most interesting fears control. A palooza is virtual festival. People like to control everything. Celebrating controlling people everywhere. Abdominal cramping support. Week is one that i personally relate to. I can't believe that. I read those. But i did. I also want to tell you that. There's a new app. Always some great mental health apps inter voce. It's an italian company and what it is is it's a company that has a chip where they actually changed the voice in your head the voices in your head that are doubtful insecure. It's an answering machine for those voices. So they are able to set up a virtual answering machine in your head to answer unwanted voices that come up and it allows you to change your internal messaging messages that you can tell yourself over one hundred programmable messages and with the premium package you can get celebrity messages guru masters character messages next time. You have an insecure thought. You might hear people like thor or wonder woman You can turn from warrior to warrior and also for some reason a very popular voices voice of jason bateman. Okay jennifer thank you for being here for a civil and i know we had to go through a lot to get here but but no. It's okay it's okay. Yeah there's all you know it's it's the world it's the blame the world. Now you see a lot of people in your practice. What is the whole psychology of. How do you deal with the dual nature of being sick or not being well and trying to be well mentally. Yeah that's a good question. That's a really good question so similarly to what we talk about and it's very difficult when you have physical symptoms and they're really bothering you and you're there on your mind and you're physically feeling them. It's really difficult to think about anything else. In fact being in pain or being uncomfortable. It's exhausting. I mean it really takes a ton of energy but the real trick is to try and keep your mental state is positive as possible because when you are stressed your immune system downgrades and the reason it does this is you know again. We've talked about how the mid brain is not the brightest part of the brain the planning in the perspective taking and understanding and the ability to regulate is all part of the frontal lobe but the mid range job is to keep you safe and it just doesn't care what it just thinks if you're upset than you your endanger so. Whenever we're stressed the body actually goes. Well okay. I don't wanna give all this energy to this infection that i'm fighting this illness that i have is headache that i have I'm going to give my energy to you. Know running away from this thing that's chasing me. And so what happens is the immune system actually downgrades so the more stressed you are the the less able your immune system is now before people worry about that. There's a lot of things you can do. So let's take pain for example it's a bad hip or a bad knee. Let's start with that and all day long you're thinking in your narrating oth- knee in this hurts and it hurts when i do this. You're telling everybody about it here emailing people about it and you're talking about it and giving it energy and giving it life what you want to actually practice is taking your attention to another part of your body so if you're other knee and this is this is crazy if you try if your other knee is not hurting then you take your attention your awareness to the knee. That's not hurting and you're narration. Becomes mama arms good. My other needs pretty good my shoulders. Fine manek's okay. Focus on the parts of your body. They're actually feeling okay and it's not i mean it's obviously not gonna make you not be in any pain but it will change your mental state and that's really really important now you can allow yourself to kind of go there for a little bit and just feel really sorry for yourself and then pick yourself up and try to think about the parts of your body. That are healthy. The parts of you that are well. Try not to talk about it all the time because literally. No we do this with with with our lives in general as we talk about the stuff. We don't want we talk about the stuff we don't like force yourself to have conversations and talk about other things use music. Try to relax. Try to breathe tr. Try to go around your house. Look everything beautiful another technique. That can really her can really help. Actually if you're not feeling well is to actually send imagine sending all of your energy all of your energy all of your healing energy. Get get some imagery going. Imagine soldiers you imagine anything that gives you that image of being a warrior. I guess and sending all of that energy to the part of your body or the flu or the whatever you have that. You're struggling with whatever disease you're struggling with. Send your energy there And that's a much better use of your cognitive energy and time and this is all easy to say by the way. But it's really all you've got when you're struggling so even if you even if you're debilitated you've got you've got covid you're suffering from something like that and you're maybe weaker you can still toned down the stress. Is that what you're saying and actually actually turn whatever you are folk able to focus on to something else even if you can just do it for a few seconds or a few minutes just really trying to do. That can make a difference. That can make a huge difference particularly if you're fighting something like an infection or flu or cove it What you're doing is you're actually upgrading your immune system and when you can get into what's called Brain heart coherence. You are strengthening and upgrading your immune system sear allowing your body to fight even even harder what it's dealing with an entrusting in knowing that your body not it actually has an incredible amount of internal wisdom knows what it's doing it really really does and just trying really hard to focus on what you do want picture yourself being well picture yourself walking around going so much better. I have energy again is great. Almost it's actually really a key component is to imagine that it's already in the past even just starting with your thoughts with. I remember when i felt sick. I remember when i had covert can actually send a very different signal to the brain. That's so interesting. Because i feel like what's happening. What could happen in the country. right now. is we're going to have to open up to being decent and well and it's a different thing. I mean it. You know allowing good things in your life when you're used to struggling is very faren and not easy and if you're used to riding on stress and when i say you you know listen this is me i mean it takes. It takes some focus. Your focused and practice and that kind of sort of panic and anxiety is meant for very short term stuff like something chasing you getting out of the way of something Running from something so too long term be existing in that state is not good for your body and it's as simple as even for a few moments forcing yourself to think about something else even just thinking about something neutral can help. Yeah i've been telling people you know. Go neutral go neutral to what you make a great bumper sticker. Go unless you're in. Switzerland turned switzerland. People think. of course. i'm here. I live in switzerland. I wanna bring on our guest a long. You know this this person. great writer. Great sand up very fine actress in good director. She directed a movie called sixty spins around the sun. Documentary about a comedian randy critic. Oh who is a fascinating guy who was still been in the news Social activist laura linger. Laura you've been ed. I've kept you on since one thousand nine hundred sixty eight. You've been here since really about some of the changes you've seen. Listen you your for every time i talk to you. I feel like i'm talking to you. Even though we text message or we email. I feel like i'm talking to you when when we do that. But you sent me something. Y- you have had some health stuff. go on. Yes he tell us about what you've been experiencing and with what's been happening. Well in august had a brain aneurysm. And it's funny. Because i stand. I started reading about it after happened. It was a bad headache. But i was thinking like so many of these people said it was the worst headache i've ever had alice a in a way. I don't people have hangovers. I really didn't think it was any worse than any other headache. I've ever had you know As a drinker. But anyway it was bad and i didn't want to go to the hospital you know classic just not making any sense and Talking really slowly. And you're just been critical and i'm tired anyway. The point is my husband. Kept me from my dream of dying in my sleep. that's he. He denied me that piece. Gonna lifelong dream and i. I was captured that. Yeah yeah And to be able to have an open coffin that some sort of horrific act just want to just go out peacefully and have everybody really really really upset that tom will. That's one of the things that i wish we could have is. I wish we could hear our eulogy while we're still alive. Yeah and that's why. That's why i have a company called. It's your funeral and party. Planning we plan a party and then you get to hear the the eulogy okay. So now you've got that going the you see the doctors and what is the rehab of that what do you. How do you heal from that. What happens well you know. I guess i've got. Stop doing coke. I and that's when i stopped doing coke. Yeah no it's funny like i'm on antidepressants. I'm lexie pro and dexin and i drink coffee. Throughout the day with the thing is the first of all it said it happened because of an imbalance in electrolytes and an electrolyte balance. So there really isn't anything i can do except i was in the hospital for seven days in other than you know not hit myself in the head of the rock just resume. How was i guess. And the thing is. I feel pressure now because it's like a second chance at life to do something with my life. Yeah that is a lot of. It's like winning the lottery. What are you gonna do now. We go shopping. what are you gonna do. Well that's now from for those seven days what's happening. I mean if you stay seven days in a hospital you have something i mean. It's a serious thing right okay. well it was. It was funny because they have to come and check every well every three hours. Somebody comes in and they what you name. Why are you here. And then they'd say who's the president. And i'd say oh shit test my god so it was funny because i all i had to do. Was i lift my hand. Lift my hands. They had to see that. I can lift my hands over my head and i could lift my legs over my head. It's just just one doctor. Who's the president. And why do i have to. I'm not that lindbergh. So then and they said here's what happens. A third of the people who a brain aneurysms die from it. a third. don't ever regain the motor skills and a third are fine. And so that i was looking to be Is that ended up. it doesn't end up to one hundred though. But there's another one percent that become president so but anyway i feel i you know i i can't. I can't believe that my and my husband was i mean. He saved my life really. Because i didn't want to go on the on the way to the doctor. Well what what. I finally got finally went with him. I got in the car because he said you wanna go for a ride and since dog at heart i just got just wag my tail and jumped in the car. All needed say was. Do you want go for right. So i got in the car. And then but here's what's really bizarre. I said two things that. I've never. I said well i guess it's a good thing that we're going yoga babysitting. Which almost sounds like a thing. It would be a thing out here but it is not so two things i haven't said in like ten years and don't and don't like either thing and i said while i guess it's good that we're doing yoga babysitting jennifer. What was my brain doing at that point in creating a brand new business. I guess it was just who knows who knows that your husband did the right thing like goodness like no. He knew what to do. I do like going for drives you first of all not only. Do you have a second chance now. But you owe your husband your life. There is so much pressure. So how are you dealing with. Oh and i can't. I'm a slob. And he's very nate. And i don't i don't like the vacuum or dust or do anything and he says i saved your life us every every request with i save your life. Yeah can you do something around here. Can you make a salad. 'cause i saved your life. That is so interesting well then and but that wasn't all wait. There's more something else happened right. My retina detached and they said that i had nothing to do with this at the same time. Yeah it was a couple months later on my right eye but like years before my retina detached on my left eye and to me. It's amazing because i should be having such an exciting life like that. Retinal detachment happens to Race car drivers and skiers people who for instance Get out before noon and have a very active life. They don't know why my retinas are. Well you know. The only i mean my reference to detached retinas sugar ray leonard who was a boxer for fifteen years and would have detached retina. But i've seen you box in your good but don't go to your left As much as you write your yeah. How do you take like these. Things have happened to you. Has it changed the or has it shifted the way that you take care of yourself. And i'm not talking physically. I'm talking about like you know the things that you'd think about how you think about your life you know. It's it's funny. Because i was saying that having a near death experience really wasted on me because i'm still gallo. I haven't changed anything about anything. I don't believe in any the fucking same. God bless you know unless this is purgatory. Unless i'm actually this is my this is the afterlife and and that would be more horrible picked. This is as good as it doesn't get any better and it's all this that's his eternity right now. This is groundhog day for you. Are you good at relaxing them. Are you good at getting out of your head or you just with your head and you just do things. That way will physically. I'm on the cats sleep schedule and sixteen hours right. I don't know how i could relax anymore. You know. I feel like for most of my life. I've been gerring. You know to have a job you know to write something to try and make money and then waiting so even as a kid. I think everything. I've just feel like i've been waiting like i used to wait for my mom to come home because i stayed at my cousins. My was a single mom. And i hate. I hated staying there. And then it's like waiting for that waiting to hear back on scripts and waiting waiting waiting. I don't know if that answers. The question i feel sorry for me. Yeah well that's good you know and i think we're going to take some calls right now. If people who are writing in who do feel sorry and they're gonna call in now bill from brockton. Why why are you sorry. No we don't have that kind of show but we will so waiting is believing that something is going to happen in the future. You know if you're in show business that's how you that's how you live but but doesn't that stress you out though don't you have. I think it does even more than i realized that. I mean i don't know like i guess exercise walk around and I like watching old horror films and thrillers and try to read but a lot of it is just complaining. And i think it's really it was really interesting with jennifer was saying because in even in emails will say well you know i sent this and i'm just waiting to hear i just kind of perpetuate the negativity you know laura. Most people like most of us live like that. We don't even realize it. Just think about like the conversations people have ohio are you. Oh wow this. And this and we and part is just brain firing. It's just neural hardware that we've just used and over and over again we don't think about and most people actually live in a state awaiting. It's not just you and and the career that you're in like most people. I wait for the weekend. Can wait for the day. Be over. can't wait for my next holiday. Can't wait for whatever now. There's nothing like that to wait for with covid but the truth is most a lot of people spend time waiting. And the truth is you're gonna you're gonna just wait your life away because it's the now where you have actually peace and you actually have some freedom and that's something i think we all need to kind of figure out because they're so little to do right now he will only have the now but it it takes practice eddin. You and i talk about this all the time but it's in those kind of just totally simple things like a cup of coffee. Mix right today. this is awesome. What you see it sounds so stupid. I realized but bio chemically this neuro psycho biology. So you're literally wearing a virtual reality suit. Okay that's what our bodies are and they interpret data basically energy in light. That's it right and we were interpreting that and we're broadcasting that and we're just basically like little radio stations walking around. This is what everyone does when you're constantly looking you don't want and focusing on what you don't want and what you don't like and what you don't have yet and what hasn't happened yet. What's going to happen. That part of the body the brain. That i talked about at the beginning it matches that neurobiology and it actually downgrades in kind of it just sends biochemical signals that cause us to feel low energy or not feel great and we don't even notice because our you know everyone else is doing this to but when you just make this subtle shift and start thinking about things that are working things that are okay. Things that are fine. You know a simple thing that you can do just to shift your mood. Slightly is to think about three or four people in your life. That don't make you mad and if you've only got one then think of one just an imagine this. Imagine looking into their eyes. It's such a simple thing but when you look into someone's is that you love and when you imagine because the brain can't tell the difference between something is doing something magic you will get a flow of oxytocin not oxycontin. I had a very powerful hormone. That drops cortisol Strengthens the immune system increases neural. Plus the city. It's basically medicine. Wow yeah it's incredible. I mean hugging me. Said you live like you sleep like a cat. You have a cat. Oh yeah. I've got three okay. So you add oxytocin and and the dog. There's a lot of oxytocin they're looking. There is hug them even imagine them even doing something really simple like going through your phone making a getting a collection folder Photos together in a folder. Just i dunno beautiful scenes. Happy family times. Your cat your dog whatever. Add a little music to it. It's actually pretty simple to do if you have an iphone on. I'm sure it's easy on android two and put your headphones on jennifer. I'm not going to do that. We'll your husband do it for you. Cluster now that we're all. I can say that it's not going to happen. Then do five actually slip flip through photos or do. This does even better who'd headphones in go to youtube. Mingo epic movie music right. I really i one hundred percent i. I think that that's such great advice. Because i also think that's why you know young actors all fall in love with their co stars. Because you're looking into your there is your oxytocin is flowing. How can how can these kids. They all like wind up getting married. They fall in love on the set. And they all you know and it's just like because you're so vulnerable and you're looking at this person's is so you think you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. And that hormone. Oxytocin is actually known as the tend and befriend hormone and it increases trust as well. So it's it's humans bond with each other but and i'll say this thing about waiting. You'd think that something good is going to happen when you get what you want and thing is what you're after you're after the feeling that comes with it right not the thing not the thing so if you if you're after the feeling the comes with it the comes with getting a great part or a great a great deal then can you have that feeling now and how can you have it. Will you can have it by imagining what it is that that feels like. Because you've gotten it in the past you've pat parts and the mid brain can't tell the difference and it releases all those positive biochemicals the other thing you can do ed instead of just imagining that you have it. Look where you already have it so if you think i know getting a great job or i don't know whatever it is that you're imagining is going to give you freedom and you know people being proud of your your Whatever feeling you think it's going to give you look for where you already have it. Where do you already have freedom. We can find freedom all over the place right now but when you're driving your car you're like okay. I have freedom to get a car. There's people who are standing outside of the bus shelter when it's minus thirty. I'm in my car. I never think about how much. I love my cards. It sounds so ridiculous but we're really sending very very important signals to the brain when we do this. So look for what you already have that you think you're gonna get from that thing. The worst thing that can possibly happen from this practice you feel better. Yep that's the worst thing that can happen the way i'll say to you laura is. It's the difference between looking for the good and looking for mr good bar. The difference and i know. I know you'll understand that reference a lot but i know you would now. That's what i was gonna ask you. That's the other question. If you have a brain our mind that is predisposed to end. It really isn't predisposed but you you develop these things. You have the wicked sense of humor. The greatest sense of humor. And it's dark. How do you still have that but live in the light. And that's title my new book a long long long long it. But i'm actually saying like wh. How is that you know. I think a lot of comedians. Think well i can't. I'm not gonna be effective this way. You know what is the you know it is an interesting but how do you do. How do you do both. how do you come from. and i'm asking it. I'm just throwing it out to the room. And when i say room i don't know what that means. I'm guessing that like just literally going outside and being in the sun and being around animals for me anyway. That cheers me up. And then you know on one end on the looking for the light and the other end to quote ted bundy's mother at his execution. I can't wait till this is over. I'm stop to stop. Would she really truly said so. I think you have to stop you. Have to the bad things. You can't say i can't wait till this is over. You have to the like you said in the now be here in the mid would just happening now. This is this is just what's happening. Now it'll pass but this i also don't want people to think of you have like a warped sense of humor and what's great about you and that darkness is funny if you feel awful when you're joking about it that's different but if you're laughing and you feel okay that's okay right. I don't want to starting helpers mcnally. No he's darker you want last year off about it. Be whatever and then spend time with your dog and your cap and being outside and just it's really about balance essentially and i don't want people to think you have to turn into lake in this happy person all the time that's not. That's not realistic for anybody. It started to be aware of how often we just sink into patterns. That aren't serving us now with two an i all. I think that when people say well. If i i'd be such different person if everything went my way or or especially like stand ups because you know they think oh if i you know. Get some good news. That i'm not gonna have my edge wherever i don't feel that way at all. I think it'd be good news. It kind of just like i mean whatever it is it builds your confidence and so you you'd be just as good unstaged because or even better because you feel more confident being happy i think right and life is everything right. It's all good stuff. It's all the bad stuff. It's all the contours. There's a quote. And i wish i could remember Try to find out who it is. But it's you won't be okay until you're okay with everything kind of a great way to look at stuff like the you can have the good stuff without the bad stuff you've got have contours. I mean who will go to a movie or absolutely everything right in the movie. I mean you'd walk. it'd be so boring. Who would want to see that movie like you want the tension and something going wrong like. That's kind of what life is about when you can learn how to appreciate the contrast in the contours amount. Obviously would be terrible. Things happen at the different story. Although still many people will say that some of the worst things that have happened to them actually been life changing for them but understanding that you can't you can't control conditions but you can control how you respond to them and that's really all the only place you actually have control. Yeah it's it's amazing you know. I remember alan ball. The writer. And i remember him something that he wrote in american beauty. He said that it's very. It's difficult for people to deal with. How much beauty there is in the world. He's incredible yeah. He's a great addition for him once completely blew it. Because that's how amazing i am but But no alan ball. Is he that movie in. The way he writes was brilliant. He has something on amazon now. It's very good to you. Know this is. This is really interesting. you don't hear about it. We don't perpetuate it in the media but there's a lot of even before biden was elected or before. The country is shifting now even with covid which is horrific. there is a lot of beauty in the world. There are a lot of good things going on. We don't hear about them. they're not broadcast. So we think you know the brain gets negative. We take the negative road. And i'm not saying be positive like cover over reality if i took away. Two things are even cut it in by ten percent waiting and resistance. If i cut those two things by ten percent. I'm seven feet tall kareem abdul jabbar and playing for the lakers. I'm doing all kinds of things. Yeah cheers yeah. And i hope that you know. I don't wanna make anybody feel well. Actually i do. I'd like to make everybody feel bad now. I don't wanna make anybody feel bad. But if you're listening. I'm sure you relate to this and maybe some of you relate to this i know you do. It's it's an interesting thing it's just focus is is a big thing and You have the choice of what you're gonna focus on what you're gonna use doesn't mean denying the reality or being positive syrupy positive. But what do you look you know. What are you looking at and you can say what are you looking at two ways right you can say. What are you looking at or you can say. What are you looking at now. Laura new because we have a registered therapist here. We have a licensed therapist. And that's not me. Is there anything else that we can. We can do for you today. I just want to know if jennifer takes blueshield insurance. Because i want my husband at start Sessions with her. I'm serious. I want to talk about that. We'll discuss after. Yes but honestly. I think everyone should have this it. I don't know why it's it's so important. I want kids. I want kids to be raised with this knowledge like you. Just there's a handbook for your brain. But there should be 'cause there's so much you can do. There's so much learn and know about your own wellness in your own health and how you can share that with others and and we we do. We spent so much time talking about our story like we are all attached to our story but the truth is you're not your story you're the storyteller right and as soon as you make that switch you have power that you didn't know you had jennifer do. I don't know if you've studied like agus. Probably gonna say this wrong union theory or whatever. It's like dreams. Yup my focus is a different kind of therapy called self psychology which is a whole other thing but but yes. I'm very familiar with there. A dream is. I have to yeah to everyone with like a talking about a drink. Okay so but just because it's so recent. Last night i dreamt there someone living in the basement. I said to gear and this is so like geared. because he's kind of he's he's a good person caretaker. I said we're looking through this thing. It's like a heater in the wall. Like a square. That and i said i just saw somebody's hand and he said you're kidding so then you so anyway. He he runs downstairs and then comes up with this guy. He's really tall guy who's been living in the basement there places where we stand in the house and it's just smells bad and i said this guy's been with just defecating in the basement just whatever and living in the basement and this is all part of the dream and then we opened this door and the two dogs and a rabbit come out. And he didn't know they were there either so anyway. What does that mean. Well here's the dreams. Dreams are first of all he could just be general confusion that the brain is just processing and kinda the luther at night. Sometimes it doesn't mean anything. What what is roy. Say sometimes a cigar is just a cigar but often archetypes right. So so you'll see you see an owl leisure mean. Someone was apple. It can be knowledge in the basement is usually like dark. Stop that you need to deal with stuff that you need to look and examine. I don't know about the dogs. And the rabbit. Maybe it's kind of what we were talking about earlier than animals are so lang and and they ran out the door right. The dogs meant and the rabbit ran out the door. And we've never seen them before and the only thing the guy said. I said why he knew one of the dogs names was marlene. Like yeah. I don't know anybody new orleans and the other dog's name or knowing that i knew that the other dog or saw or something anti a u. n. t. y. Auntie or whatever your that. I just really specific specific of an anti marlene. I don't let be nice that. I'm like what i don't. I have been thinking about my aunt though but Dreams are generally our subconscious. Mind or you can also say your higher self kind of speaking to us in metaphors. Because as i talked about earlier the mid brain the parts feels things. That's really in charge of sort of safety. And it's like the security system of the brain doesn't think in words it thinks an images who the image is usually something in the basement is something you need to. Dos something down there and its stinking and you gotta deal with it. Oh dan the image there you go and then the images. These lovely animals ran out the door. I don't know what happened to the man. Yeah the tall guy sitting and just living down there for you. Still stop there. No we wound up. I was about to call thank you for. I was about to call the police and then couldn't remember my address interesting. Okay so the the way to get rid of him you have to figure out that's truly yet and once do you'll go home right. I mean it has to be my father. I would have to be my father. Because he's tall and he's dead so maybe some stuff there but but the truth is like films and books epic movies. They're they're archetypes that we see over and over and over again and usually and these are sort of collective ancient human stories that we all just kind of know from wizard of oz. Do you know star wars. It doesn't matter that the answer is usually you've got to deal with your shift kicked carrier crap around you got it doesn't it doesn't just disappear. Joseph cambell that was the name of his first book. You got rid of your shit. And then he changed it to the hero's journey and he makes a lot of money so that's him that's marketing but now but but listen. Williams tyron wrote sophie's church was supposed to be a dream. And so i would just say to you laura to write sophie's choice to okay. You know those images are powerful that you're saying from your dream you know. There was a lot of conflict in. I was on the phone with the police and then a i could remember my address. I couldn't tell you know. So it was the i call emergency number and then it was like but and i'm at can remember remember and we often have dreams like that where we can't remember something or we can't get to somewhere you're running on the spot that kind of thing and that just usually means that moment we Feel kind of powerless. But the truth is we all have without sounding corny honestly we we have access to a lot of inner wisdom collectively but also as individuals and we kinda think that feelings and emotions if we just don't feel when they go away but the don't work that way every thought every feeling has an electrical charge. It's a thing thoughts are things and you don't have to sit on the couch and unpack your whole life. I mean i'm. I'm certainly not saying that therapies and steffi's a beautiful thing and there's a lot to that but you don't always have to do that route you can. You can actually just know that. It's there honor that it's their respect that there's a part of us. That's always very dark that we've packed away and start to change the way you think and start to think about positive things and look at the positive and stay in the now and you're gonna wait your whole life away. I by the way. I think therapy is so important like sometimes even with friends at i want to say what is your therapist. Say when they're telling me something and it's so you know just like even you know a friend just like he can't get over. You know this this guy that he was with and she to keep to obsessing. And i i always tell people. I see a therapist center. I'm trying to get garrett too long. I think it's so important. I think it's such an important journey for people's not always fine. It's not always easy but it but it's important because the more you know yourself and the truth is not the therapist that fixes you. It's not it's sounding board. It's you're in a wisdom. They're trying to get you to hear yourself. I wish we could go on all day. I swear to god this has been such an enjoyable. I saw and such an amazing uplifting and learning experience really off. Great having you think you and your dream. I'm going to remember a. I'm going to remember that dream. It's amazing how images. How evocative images nate my next dog. Marlene i know. Isn't that pretty. I always names for animals. I think. I think whatever you're writing about animals that you have to write about animals. I mean that is a big thing. So i'm glad to hear that the that there's something going on there. Could you gotta do that. First of all laura. Thank you so much for doing who. I was going to one of the questions you had asked me to. Some email was if my cats had seen cats. Yes and you know it's funny. We started and they said we have to wait and get stoned. Missed opportunity so bad. We're going to talk about it. He even even. This is too much for us You know i. If you show me. Betty buckley i'm okay but this is weird. You know this movie is just not a good thing. Yeah i love that. I love the my. My dog is actually sleeping next to me and has not has not woken up a bid might might three dogs or sleep with me. It's been a miracle that no one's looking up this. Nobody's walking up but the dog is. He just said the name. Marlene so what's going on. But at any rate no thank you so much such a pleasure you know. I want to encourage people. If you haven't seen this you've got to see it it's It's called sixty spins around the sun. It's a movie. Laura directed and it's very timely because it's a lot of it is about social action through the eyes of one comedian randy credit go very talented and brilliant and really a social activist and tells his story. It's very entertaining. It's really provocative it's it makes you think about different things especially now so sixty spins around the sun. Watch it and add. Yeah i love it. I just loved it. He did such a great job with that too. You'll come back. We have a lot more to talk about. So you'll definitely come back please. If you want to find out about the show you can subscribe anywhere that you get your podcast. You can also go to make light one word. Make light media dot com to get all the all the info right us there. Talk to us there and have a great week and keep coming back to work at. I'm ed crasnick for jennifer kalari and laura crime linger cnx.

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Justin Kan on Happiness, Hiring, and Time Management

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Justin Kan on Happiness, Hiring, and Time Management

"Hey everybody it's Co-founder partner village global network driven venture firm. And this is metro stories a podcast covering topics ranging tech business with world leading experts. Hello what's up. i'm great it's great to have you. I was just saying the back row in green room. I feel like we're at coachella. Burning man goes is going virtual. I would be surprised if chela it is as well. Well everybody we were. We were super excited and super lucky to have a longtime friend and collaborator a justin con to To join us for a for fireside chat for all village founders. Justin concourses the the founder of justin tv when he had really idea of putting a camera on his head and live streaming. His us is fantastic. Life and that eventually evolved into twitch which livestreaming games and became a unicorn And then started number a number of other companies and was recently atrium. Which will which will get into of course was a partner at y combinator and yeah entrepreneur investor and renaissance man. Just thank you for joining us here today. Thanks thanks for inviting me awesome. Just the first thing. I want to cover and i wanna go deep on with you on here is it seems over last year last year to you really gone through a journey emotional spiritual and You know mental health journey and Evolution how you've approached these topics as a as entrepreneur for yourself but also in your investments. Now you recommend to others written quite a bit about it before getting into sort of the practical elements of it one. Just walk us through that journey and how that became to to become so important to ensure dad's great question. Can i love talking about it. So start off while sort of this new company. H abs after doing six years ago sold switch to amazon and then after that i was a partner white combinator for a couple of years. That's where you and i met when you were working on hunt. and he. I felt like i had this big exit and then sort of nod man. I was like oh i wanna build beer. Company had achieved more than we ever expected When we set out as founders but i really really wanted i just kept wanting more and i know it sounds ridiculous. It always seems ridiculous when somebody who is kind of at a stage success that's like a little further down. The road says that But it's really true. Treadmills real I wanted. I wanted more. And i had friends who have become bigger companies dropbox irby or whatever and i could do that and so After few years why where. You're more like a coach. Your professor at teaching this big college class basically like i want to be back in start something new and so in the most mercenary way possible. I came up with an idea that i thought could be really big which was atrium Cup full stack corporate law firm ideal and it wasn't really my passion A lawyer somebody was super passionate about bad. But i thought it was a great business idea and so it was like okay. Do this will empower me to have this big company. That i wanted to fill these needs that i think i have. I did have right. And i do have and so what happened. Was i started. This company in there was a lot of expectations. Raised a lot of money over. The course of the company was like seventy five dollars and i was very stressed out about it as anyone The everybody in the audience has been at times with their startup. But i was extremely stressful. Things were going well. Sometimes things were going poorly sometimes the same as always any company. But i was very stressed out and i was kind of wondering why like the intellectual academic side of me the kind of It was like sitting there. And i was like. Why am i subscribed if i even if this fails objectively. I can go back to doing what i was doing before. Which is being aparecida. Did investor a lot of resources. It'll be fine. But i feel like that right. I feel like things would be fine. I felt like i felt that things didn't work out. That would be the end of the world again how. I felt ten years prior when i was starting justin tv and twitch and that was very alarming to me i guess in a way because it was very stressed out and i was like this is not sustainable again. I thought it was done with that part of existence and so will that kicked off journey a story about two and a little over two years ago to to out why and And really find salvation. From those stresses. And that's kind of where all this originated so there are a lot of things that really helped in parts of the journey dive into those but one thing that really helped was. I start meditating and i started. I started as a way to like. Try to deal with the stress of everyday. So you know using heads base. Can i sit down for five minutes. And i was not someone who could sit for any length of time. You know the someone who is always needed to keep my mind active and be looking at my phone constantly and so it was really hard process from me but but through a bunch of tricks and turkey myself consistent. You know. I've been able to establish a practice and that really helped calm My mind and be okay. With whatever makes you realize that could be okay with except whatever. The experience of what was happening in the world was at any given moment so enough. I was in pain. Could accept that if i was happening anxiety about the future of my starbucks i could accept that now and talk more about meditation term. What would you say to people who are skeptical or even just aren't making time for it but You think they should or would sort of your pitch to do people who are for people like i was before who are very skeptical and maybe you know. Don't like the wu parts of The you know meditation or association with eastern religion philosophies. I would just say you know it's if it's kind of like it's self care right. It's like working out. like exercise. has well documented positive effects on people's lives and it's an investment. You might not like wearing. I never liked working out. Actually i was never into But i found that by working out and booting that investment in. I just felt better every day and i was more productive right i could. Maybe i don't think that's the more important part anymore. But at the time it seemed very important i could like be more productive and more energy and meditation is same thing for your mind. You know by being calm and being able to accept your experience of whatever's going on you are more resilient enabled the key to deal with the stresses the you know the the ups and downs of whatever happens everyday especially in the startup. Whether it's like aww downs right. There's lots of things that seem like everything's going off off the rails and the world's ending and before i didn't have good coping mechanisms to deal with those situations. I would get drunken get completely hammarberg. I would not deal with it. I would just like not emails that i didn't want to deal with her like shut. Shut down you know. it's not productive. That's not a healthy way of dealing with your problems and so by being able to be with my experience of of whatever was i'm able to deal with those my from my problems had on and i think that was a really important realization for me. You gave about hall right. Yes i stuck with drink adron. So you're you're and a half ago. I quit drinking. Because i was one of those coping mechanisms Skate my experience. I was not able to sit with the discomfort like over what was happening with the startup. i'm sure most of the audience has felt the same way at times but didn't have a way of like being with that experience of having anxiety like anxiety. It'd be like i need this to stop. I gotta get away from this. And so getting away. Involved in many things from the unhealthy to the slightly more healthy The very unhealthy right more healthy might be like taking a vacation right so was doing a lot of that. Then there's like maybe you know like i'm gonna drown myself net flicks or whatever like your watch youtube or watch twitch for like hours just to get away from my monkey mind and the the anxiety that was feeling and then a very unhealthy would be like just getting using alcohol right like as a as a mechanism to not feel emotional experience. And when i started to realize that know meditation could sit with it but also at a conceptual level. I started to realize that emotional experience that people have. You're dealing with difficult emotions. Like sadness or anger. You know those. Those emotions are signals sensations in signals. That you get as a human being right. That's the gift of being human that you have these emotions. Which are you processing all data from the outside world in complex taking on this complex data in creating like a like running through your mental model and then coming up with a way that you feel which is a signal. Give your angry. That's a feeling that something's wrong. And you want to change the world as it is and that's not bad. It's not bad to be angry now. you could. He be bad. How you out at how anger plays out in the world right if you if you manifest very unhealthy ways but realizing that these these difficult emotions weren't bad. They were negative. That i could be with them. May be less interested in escaping Alcohol wasn't really serving me anymore. And that's when i made the change. Now the the last say about my dive into my won't mystery said this experienced drinking. I wa- ska for the first time a couple of years ago and know if you haven't heard about i was the second plant medicine that served in. This comes from originates in central and south america. And it's horrible. The drink this foul tasting brew and spent six hours like for me. It was like throwing up and kind of rocking back and forth in my own head like screaming to myself and immediately afterwards i was like. Why do people do that. This is that was. That was the most stressed like tough experience. That i've ever had it was His very these moments of extreme distress all the way in the moments of extreme calm as well but one of the things that manifested for me was that i realized that i sort of learn about myself over the next year after i drink i started to learn all these things about myself and how my past experiences weren't forming my present behaviors. I was relieving all these like experiences. From when i was a kid that were formation expenses for me that now manifesting in how i live my life today so one example is i realized in my eye wasco night ceremony night. My father appeared in front man. He was screaming. Like why. I sold a billion dollar company. Why don't you approve of me. Right and i was like. Wow i never realized i had that issue and and how that manifested kind of through my life as an adult was that i always want. I realized i didn't get the approval of other people that i wanted when i was a kid and so as an entrepreneur is it's like really wanted to make it through my drive to be successful and have the billion company multi billion dollar companies or whatever it was all from this desire to act get the approval my peers that i didn't feel like i had been able to get when i was a when i was a kid and so that really opened my eyes to how kind of some of these behaviors that were unconscious before were manifesting my adult life and then from there i could realize not. Oh i don't like this about myself. I wanted to know but just that i understand it and i accept it and i can decide how i want to live in the world moving forward and if i want to rule me i have or not you know so those were some of the big things that really made a difference to me in the over the last couple of years you know now you actually never told you the one thing that you did. That moved me a few years ago in before. You start atrium. Was you doing a snaps every day and You know another bicycle of you did one over you. Know how if you don't love yourself now you're not going to love yourself later and so you billion dollar company Another company won't be enough. And so i said service segues to how do you balance the trade off between either. There's this trope that you know. Only insecure people can build build our companies. or or. if you're secure you won't care How do you about the trade off between sort of striving for more and needing adding that sort of real ambition to be something that you aren't currently but also having that sort of sense of self self acceptance. How do you think about that. I that is a good question. And i don't think i know the answer because when i was wearing an atrium and i was becoming calmer more conscious and comfortable with myself people would ask me that and i had one friend. toyota's but twenty five billion dollars company. And he's like that's my edge. My edge is to is that. I'm like this. Dr win. And i'm gonna win at all costs no matter what and i'm like yeah i do torture myself over it and i do think that that certainly know that helps in some ways for some people that can help you be successful for me. It helped a lot like i. I definitely think that you know in a way. Some of the My reactions at models that form difficult experiences in the desire to seek approval did drive me to very very successful. I i do think that helped a lot. In in some ways and i do also think that if more comfortable with who i was and less raspy i would've been more successful in the past in other twitches a good example because with twitch. My co-founder was it was really his idea. Emmett's idea and he we're pivoting to a year he was running it and the ego part of me was like man i should. I'm not needed here. i should go do something else. Almost i went start another company and i'm still involved with which was basically a board member and kind of at that point. I wasn't at playing an active role. And had i stuck around. I think i we was a really partner to admit. And i probably could have done some of the things that he maybe didn't like to do as well Maybe a little bit better great fundraiser. So maybe i could help on that side and we could have gone farther as an independent company. So i i do think that my own impatience and will you know desire to get more right than i really was positive in some ways for for being successful and also negative in some ways for for limiting my success was getting to some of the deeper elements of company building here and uses the segue That let's get into the atrium journey a bit. How did you decide to pull the plug when you saw had so much money in the bank. And how should entrepreneurs beat be thinking about that. And then i wanted to get into some of the biggest learnings And lessons learned things. You would have done differently practically In that experience. Yeah so so. While we at twenty five million we had twenty five million bank actually more than that when we decided to pull the plug in the answer was just you know the there is the startup founder and me which is like just keep going whatever figure it out and then there's the like investor investment means like why would wouldn't invest money this company right now. So how can i like. Continue spend my investors money because this is not a venture skill. Business is what i think you know. Basically applies to lot full stack companies. It's a money that business venture money is fueling but doesn't have like a core hasn't been like a real technology change that is should drive like tannock's better experience and so that was my and i feel like that's manifested itself in a lot of companies. That have had difficulties. I don't have to go through like named them all but like that. Been doing the full stack business in the last six months so to me that was just. That's that's what it came down to. I just didn't believe it was good use of capital and so while it was hard and You know we did end up laying off a large number of people. I felt like doing the fire drill of having everybody for another year on something that would make sense in having to do a new year. And with that i didn't believe it would be successful. Just it wasn't worth it right. Even employs over laying off as like. You're better off. Spending a year is hard now They'll be better off spending a year working at a different company that be has more successful prospects. So that was how we made the decision you know and Toes lessons infinite Actually lists for myself. Muslim not infinite. There's a finalist that i made for myself and They're they're many of that made a set for myself and then about the company. I mean for myself just like i knew i should have wanted no then i should work on something i was intrinsically. Motivated work on something. Whether it's an expert was purely extra. Motivation is not not a healthy thing to do. I think you know you can't get the product market development phase like money does not help you find product marketed Like you need to actually get there. Talk to your customers starting slow. I actually think starting slow to go fast later. I was wanted to go fast and just a big company but you skipping that early stage i think was like very not good in the at the end of it obviously hiring tons of people. That's one hundred We were one hundred and eight people. Hiring lots of people is not a good way to create a nimble company. Right like you should. I think it's like if i start a new company. I would want wanna have as few people as possible you know whereas i think that i was like so obsessed with building the cargo hold of a big company really quickly that i kind of skipped a lot of early steps and i was like because i'm a second boundary and i will be afforded skip those steps in. I don't think that that's very doable anymore. And so those are some of the big lessons. What else on or building or Or hiring or or even scaling is going slower are less. You picked up from his experience. There are other experiences that you make. Sure council. Your ceo's super specific. It's hard to give a general rules but remarks at a second act for example as oh yeah. Yeah so so you know. I think there's a transition. I actually don't think atrium was. I think i was trying to get to that point Way before we actually deserve to so that was that was one problem. Actually but you know the second idea with founders. In general is that you know eventually. You're your world transitions from being the product leader. One thing to building a machine that builds a machine right and Building a organization that will continue innovating and growing and creating over time. I was trying to do the ladder before. I had like a product. That really was attacks right. So you have to go through the phases and I think that's really important but for those founders who are at the company size. That's i mean really just kicks in when you're like a thousand people maybe or like maybe like five hundred with thousands of probably most. I don't know what the level of founders in the audiences but it does not apply to most people but you know eventually you will have to transition and give up direct control over your decisions in your your app or product. Whatever it is and more building the the machine and hiring organization and figuring how to kind of create a culture of innovation. And that's you know that's something. A lot of people struggle with the opposite problem. I was trying to do that from day. One and not worrying about like building a product and you mentioned goes voted vast Hiring you know whether you're going at the right right speed well. I think if you always feel like you're go behind on hiring that's good. I think that's what you wanna feel like you're If you don't relax your standards that's really good. I think companies get into problems where they hire because they need someone they are willing to take any body and that's how the like that's how the decline starts to happen. You know now. What's your philosophy of behind culture and building culture in and make sure that culture you remain strong as you as you have all yes so i think i think a couple things about that because i thought about culture a lot of but in a matter at the end of the day right i feel like a lot of people. There will say dramatic cultural a bunch of ways but we did succeed. This company says almost a prerequisite that you actually. You know that work. I mean you can overflow over-focus on culture In a way. But the the other thing that i think was a mistake was focusing like the culture has to fit the type of company. It is like i was trying to write this book. Called fifteen commitments of consciously ship. And that's an amazing book at described the type of conscious culture that i wanna work at. Unfortunately i don't think a operationally intensive company that is trying to squeeze out like bits on margin is. It's very hard to run that way. Maybe it's possible. But i don't know if i could have run that way and i don't think the type of fuel with the background that were coming atrium fully embracing working at that kind of company in their at their highest capacity. And so to me. It's like your culture figure company like you're a high margin software like asana you can have awesome conscious culture because kind of the business in the way the business Maybe it's a little bit more conducive to it. So i feel like a way. I was trying to run a company with one culture that really required leader with a different type of Who's going to run a business in a different way. And i think that was a problem. And how do you think about managing your own psychology or the the broader concept of cer-. Bring your whole self to work you know. Sometimes you're you. You'd have to put on face sometimes. You're going through something. How do you think about that at the ceo in terms of how much show how much not the show will run. I think i'm pro. Authenticity like like fairly authentic person. I'm pretty open. I just talked a bunch of strangers about drinking on waka like i. I think it's important to be authentic in open and so for me. One of the things like bottle of work in my life is just to be honest and open about my emotion. So if i'm feeling upset sale feeling anger right now and in the context of being ceo. It's not your fault. you're not doing anything wrong. You didn't make me angry. I the just signal that i feel like. Something's wrong in this situation. And i want to explain why i think that it's and so to me. That was was something that really ease. My communication at work Especially since before. I was a very command and control micromanager Kind of upset like impatient Upset if anything was going wrong. I'd be like not screaming about it. But like really stewing about anything that was small thing that was going wrong was in touch with my emotional experience and able to communicate that would manifest. The team is like oh my god. That guy fucking scary. It's horrible you know. He's he's like a dictator. Whatever they thought they were working for saddam hussein or something. So you know. I think that being able to share my emotional experience with my my team was a made me much more human being to them and much more relatable and like much more pleasant work with you you would have blog. Posts called the founder's guide to emotions. And you also wrote about your your routine separately. You knew the five minute journal this seven minute workout ten minute meditation. Yeah zoo talk about this sort of like practical daily routines that that you recommend a that we can get into you how that relates boundaries got to motions. Yeah so so. I things that found so once i started doing like meditation i was like an seemed benefits and i was like oh i need to. I want to do more. Like what else can i. so you know. Ten years ago. I thought you form new habits. I thought that people were kinda baked as they were when they became eighteen or whatever the became a doll and there's like very hard to change Who was based on your genetics. And how you grew up whatever. And after i started meditating realized i could meditate every day and i the practice was like kinda making me better in a lot of ways experts better. I was like. I'm interested in learning more. About what can i do to make my experience better. And people know me know that one time into something thousand percent into it if i get into something. I'm like all about it. So i got into the self improvement kick and i just started trying everything. So that's what led to quitting drinking the meditation Meditate every day for the last five hundred fifty days the the exercise sort saying. I'm going to exercise every day. Even if it's just for five minutes and i do i exercise every day on average is probably thirty minutes. Something like that Makes things yoga you know a cardio weightlifting. And that was a big one for me. Really i can tell my mood track my mood. And mahmoud is just much better Exercise eye surgery new. Only decaf coffee. Because i've noticed coffee with generate anxiety for me especially Like coffee lots of drink. A cup in the afternoon with that and i just drink decaf but i can drink as much as i want. I searching the gratitude journal so a friend of mine introduced me to five minute journal years ago and every day since then i've done scratchy journal at first i was very skeptical. Like you know writing down what you're thankful for but week. It was only five minutes a day. One weeks investment. That's only thirty five minutes like a try it right so i was like i actually do feel better and more connected with people around with his very simple exercise i've been doing. That is where i think about the net like a negative thing happening to me like a visualize a negative oftentimes so like getting an having a health problem or some sort of tragedy happening. Whatever and i really try to visualize it. In a potent of a visualization possible. And then it's almost like an vaccine or inoculation to like the ups and downs of of the downs. That happened throughout your day. Because you will experience difficulty no matter who you are and what your circumstances and so. This is some of the things i can tell. They're working because not just like on a daily basis. I feel happier and more peaceful in my life. But i had this pretty bad accident about months ago when head overhead. Mike bike and Am i a road bike. I broke my elbows. Bam landed like that kind of incapacitated for for a couple of days. I couldn't use either arm. Actually my left arm was really bad on was just a minor break. It turns out. But i couldn't use either aren. My wife was pulling up my pants feeding majors. I food like little little putting forth in my mouth. And i asked myself every every day after the accident. Would i change things. Like would i change our or do. I wish this didn't happen. The was always no i. I was much more peace with the experience than i thought it would would ever be. I really think. I think that's due to meditation. End to the still practice of this negative visualization. Because i had already imagined terrible things avenue costa like a spurt life now speaking of part of life. It's a challenging time to be a ceo. Last last few months to be a leader right we have covid. a teams are going remote. We have protests throughout the country. And people feel really passionate about that. Over the past of months you written ever blog post about you know founder communication communications everything especially as scales. Ray gray all hands. I'm curious we've just your general advice on founder communication the communication to your company. And and how do that. Well in any frameworks for that but also how to do that. Well and sort of times of of great uncertainty variety of things that are going across the world If arranging today how you'd be thinking about that at your company. Well i mean. I guess a couple of thoughts that are probably not that coherent on this The number one thing is. I think you need to think like it's about time spending time. I feel like the best leaders. i know. Spend a lot of time on their communication to the teams are writing letters on sunday. Like a weekly letter to their thirteen. Or they're getting feedback on their team. Communications from people inside the management team in the company but also people externally their friends were. Ceo's i see them investing a lot of time. I think that's really critically important. The second thing. I think is that just really being clear about what. Your values are a company. I think is really important. I think people are looking for leadership like especially employees especially younger millennial employees. They're looking for out. They see what's going on in the world are not happy with it and they're looking for outlets and one of the ways that they feel that they can dry change probably not wrong. He's within the company that worked for the younger workforce. Ease the thing that power silicon valley right like silicon valley's is powered like if you're running a digital business offer business your cost of goods where your supply chain is reverse engineering workforce designers sales people and To the workforce has real power to effect change in their companies in. They know that they're still people are starting to realize that. So i think as a ceo. It's really important that you be clear about your values and communicating whether they're aligned with current outside I was external trends that are happening or or were not right because people are going to expect you to be there. They're gonna cedar company as an outlet For some of those you know the social changes to see. And i feel like people get into trouble from what i've heard with friends of mine or whatever going through this they get. They're getting trouble where they're not clear or the change over time. They're not you know it's kinda like they're just doing whatever will appease whoever's allowed us at that moment but they don't have a clear set of values that they're defining themselves for where they stand on everything in the world but also like these specific external movements. And i think that's it's just important to to do that upfront. And it will save a lot of pain. Even if there's people in your company disagree with you now want the company take stronger stances on xrays things i think just being clear is going gonna save a lot of pain in in the future because what you see happening is like it becomes a debate right like where employs companies should do this and then the founders like okay. They kind of like resist and then they like give in a little bit. But then it's not good enough Ongoing energy second the company. I think is just much more to be clear about it. Now you talk about the habits earlier that founders routines have how do you think about the the infrastructure when whether it's regular meeting with the coacher to regular meeting with pure founders other sort of infrastructure that you think founders should should build it your. Ceo should build into into their professional episodes. Yeah that's a great question. So i'm a member of a number of groups of founders and i find that to be really helpful to have like a private forum where the same people over time where you can get your bounce ideas of problems off of them in a very honest unfiltered way. I think that's really critical. I think having a therapist really helped You know having iowa coaches having coaches helps if you can get some someone who's really got a strong coach can tell you how it is Something that you respect I think those are all really critical thing you make. The most of the therapist sessions coaching sessions with coaching. I worked with the my coaches. This guy matt Charlie's coach of a lot of amazing companies Lambda school coin base. Flex board read it and He just has filter. And we'll tell you how it is also really hold you accountable everything you say. And that was the super valuable to me and the with therapists. I mean for me. I think i get the most one. I'm just really honest. Authentic about my experience and and that's always helping us. Yeah a lot of companies here are growing and and some of them are scaling. How do you think about avoiding politics in in in your company at as you grow and just setting not just mitigation of great communication within within the company and just overall a healthy gas. So i think the number one lesson i learned from atrium was like you have to create that first team. That's the most important thing devoid politics. What i mean by that is used like i created the first part of each room like a really created an environment where people wanted to impress me so it was very political activists calling game i did unconsciously because like by the way i was communicating because of was whatever people were like one impress justin and it will work together and went it was really turning that management layer into a team. Words like are actually feel like a sports team or something like your have sales your head of engineering your head product you your you know your head of marketing or whatever that's like a team like more than when when you ask most leaders like who's your team like vascular had a mark mark. He's perfectly companies. Who's your who's your team. They'll probably say. Oh it's my direct reports. it's my sexual company but really the team of the company. The i team should be The executive team led the company and that executive layer should be more honest and trust the other people Executive where more than they do with the rest their organizations in and that is not the case in most companies but the key avoid politics is to create that first team in oath how to do it. It's like any other teams that spend time together crave orbital and exercise with people. Trust each other. You could go through Experiences together that you know you go through any sort of like emotional. Amnio indeed singing's experience you become bonded you know. Just there's there's some whites switch gotta put in to work team iowa's concessions which y'all under your chairs if you if you look at the. How do you think about the trade off between promoting people from within birth bringing people externally and then more broadly just career development for for your employees. I'm not the right person. Asked about that. But i mean i'll try to answer but like in terms of career development. I do think people want to know that. You're invested in them as a company of the especially younger workforce. They wanna know you're invested in them of the average tenure in silicon valley like a year. Now it's very low and so people switching companies because they think they get a better opportunities elsewhere right in the south tonight in ways to make people understand that you're invested in them In terms of developing versus hiring. You know really depends on the situation. I think that like sometimes companies growing too fast where they have to hire from outside. And i think that's really important a lot of companies. I see flounder because even though the great trump is craig culture with founders who are very passionate. They get stalled because they are hiring enough outs from outside. When they're when they get to be a pretty sizable company. You know so. The answer is not always just promoted within. It's not always us hiring outside. Obviously there's tons of cases where people hire outside leaders. It's just the culture fit or they don't have the context. It's a disaster. Yeah i wanna talk about founded founder burnout urges founder. Disenchantment with the with the company. And how do you sort of renew that. You talked about the habits terms of personal health but in terms of like specific excitement. Over over what you're working on within the company or just where the company is going. How do you think about sort of renewing. You know excitement and passion for for that but also making sure that you're working on the right thing as the yes. I think it's this. Exercise causes leadership coaching content. That's the zona genius. Exercise so most founders. I know ended up in the zone of excellence. Which is the things that are good at. But they don't necessarily get from doing so they're like you know they are doing the sales because they're good editor. They're managing the entire team because they're getting the smart people they learn how to manage. They figure it out but they're slowly being drained because doing much shit they don't like to do whereas in the beginning of the company they probably were starting this company doing the things they they love doing early. Some of them and the alternative data is figuring out a living zone genius. Which is the things that you love doing that. Give you energy right and a bunch of things you can. Do you like calendar audit to figure out like what in your day gave you energy. And what took away energy in the try to Outsource or in source or have someone else do all the things that are like you know took away energy from you. I think that's really important. I think a lot of founders trapped and his troop actually a lot of people in general but founder specifically are trapped by their concept of what is supposed to happen right so found like a ceo supposed to manage every you know executive leader executive member of the ceo is supposed to sign these major contract work on these major contracts with co supposed to prepare all the board information presented aboard. But actually a ceo's not supposed to do anything like you can just rethink everything from from from first principles for context right. You do anything increase evaluation of your company and grow your business like if you have other people can do any of the specific things that you have this preconceived notion that you should be doing. Then you could have those people do them and focus on what your special strength is the thing that gives you energy right and i strongly encourage like mozza friends of mine too. You don't like doing it figure out how to get someone else to do it. And hopefully someone for whom that task is in the zona. Genius you know. And what's the best way develop that self awareness or more self aware of once drew zone zone of genus. yes i think. Calendar rod is a really great exercise. Where you're like going through you pronounce your calendar for the last four weeks and then just circle in kept to pansy no red and blue and everything that gives you energy circle in blue everything that took away energy circle and red and everything. That's in red figure out how to not do it or to change it in some way that it will be blue. Toby you mentioned Conscious leadership a couple of times. And i'm curious if you can Go deeper on it unpack. Just some of the biggest lessons you've taken from some of the basic principles that you take a in in in your co development. So i talked about one already. Which was the emotional. Aside which is being honest and being in touch with your emotions and being able to honestly communicate them to the people around you the the other two kind kinda major things for me were ting hundred percent responsibility. So it's gonna sound counterintuitive but as a co felt like. I had no agency in my life. I was like i'm just i'm in the situation in the world is doing it to me and really wanna change the context and was able to say like the first situations i will i am. I put myself in this situation. I started this company and hire one hundred and eight people. Now i've got a layoff shit on people like it could be like you could see that as like things are happening to me like the market. Didn't accept it like i. you know. The people inside in cooperate. Bill good business. Whatever or i could say. Here's all the ways that i created the situation for myself and the ironic thing is when you or the the the counter to things when you when you have agency when you feel like you have agency that you feel a lot better about what is going on your life. A second thing for me was curiosity. Overreact very reactive person and in a lot of ways that serve me. And i was like okay. What has to be done to fix. Whatever problems it is we can get to the next order of magnitude for business. And i like a things to do but the problem with adam i was never a i was approaching things with like a curious mindset like how can i learned from the situation and so when i was in a lot of these situations not happy you know and and by kind of flipping script and saying like how can i. What can i learn from this guy. Just find myself like much more engaged. Happy with life in general doesn't even it's not just startups. It's like going my daily life. I have to. I dunno drive to the Somewhere to pick something up in normally. I'd be like i don't wanna do an errand or whatever but when i look at it like To get go see somebody at this place. Learn something from them like you know. I'm stuck waiting airport. That could be happening to me could be reactive about it and where i could have the mindset like what can i learn from the people i'm stuck with like i can just talk to make a different human connection so for me. That was like a complete new way of thinking that that really changed my experience. Yeah you're gonna start another company I'm not a again. Let's say let's say if you wh-what whatever lessons other things that you would do differently. You mentioned some of them. Go slow to go fast. Nail the the initial product of. Maybe don't do something if full stack services venture venture money. What else would you different in. Terms of the company building functioned. Or where else do you think you grow a well. I guess i'll just tell you. I guess what i am doing which is so I love working on new things. I love ideas in actually for a while was trying to say okay. I want to try to suppress august get. Let go of that part of myself. But i realized i should accept that part too. You know and i i do love that part and so I started working on this new. It's but it's not a company but i think about because my background i can't help but think about how a lot of the ways that i think about. Companies so is app is a habit tracker to help people adopt Have healthy habits like meditation exercise and share them with friends so that they can They can You know it creates a social reinforcement to help hold you accountable right so you can kind of create group run meditation like you create a village global group. Then everybody would check in and you kinda see help each other with encouragement over time to adopt these habits. And i just want to create something that was based out of love when and something that i really wanted to use. It was kind of the app i wanted and for the first time ever united never really worked on something that i really wanted myself. I'd always worked just ideas. That i thought would be interesting and cooler could make money or whatever and so the building with a couple of friends of mine and we You know. I'm almost exactly the opposite of veterans. Like wanna raise no money. It's not a company. It's not a company. It's just a fun project. And i want to not announced an announced attendance like publicly or anything like that. I don't want to not announce it. I just want to work on it for my own intrinsic you because it's intrinsically fun for me and i want to you know like if we hire people. I only want to see people. Were not gonna hire anyone because we're not a company but if we as we bring on volunteer friends of ours help on this project. I only one work with people. Who when i see them. It puts a smile on my face. Like i actually want to see these people not people like that's like that's a non negotiable qualification and if never does work and become something that maybe more of a business i wouldn't call it a startup. Maybe like a business that could pay people to continue working on it. I would you know considered to making it more. Like a like a share business or like a lifestyle a lifestyle business might be what people call it a not started because i feel like the you know the way people especially in valley. Think about services like you have to a desk. It's a it's about getting to a destination you're trying to sell the company or whatever it's it's not necessarily about that the journey. That's just where i'm at in life right now. Totally want noted about you. Is that you get excited about something early. And then other people get excited about. Oh about about it suit so Use spot trends and of you the camera on the head and you know livestreaming yeah snap and mental health and one china is just notice externally from from your tweets. And you don't get into it. But it broadly like around free speech and freedom of thought and universalism and independent thinking and. I guess i'm curious. If there's anything worth sharing about in terms of what moves you there how that relates to a company building you have to be able to have real conversations with people and where you expect to go without if at all or just. What's interesting to you about about that topic. Will i mean. I guess a starting with what's concerning right. There is a global trends in just in the united states. I have a a global liberal trend like a lot of the liberal ideals that are the foundation of western government and western politics. The younger people in these countries including the united states are less committed to those ideals today. Never been they haven't in a long time and To me that's very alarming. Because i think that obviously the united states has a lot of problems like we're in the middle of a huge amount of problems and it's not a perfect implementation of the ideals of liberalism but there that doesn't mean like the ideal is bad too right like we should strive to get closer to the ideal every day. Not just throw out. What the goal you know the safer like the goalposts were the wrong ones of the goals of the the wrong one and i worry that the conversation is more in that direction and so You know people should be able to have unfiltered conversation of ideas even ones that are challenging or touch on difficult subjects. I think that's just really important. And it's important micro at the micro level in silicon valley starring company. You don't have ideas. You can't discuss like you. I mean there's so many examples from my own career but just like the having the core premise of your product. Not be working and then just iterating like ab test but not being Actually say as a company like is this a were course options wrong. Like i've been there and not ask those questions. Maganga wasted more and more time on. And i think having a culture where you can actually have a free discussion of ideas is incredibly important. And i feel that that is people's interest in supporting that culture in the west in america is a roading because there are finding so much dissatisfaction adverse points of our like institutions right and think. That's that's a problem. I don't know what the solution to. This is a huge problem. How do you think about that within the company itself in terms of make sure that sort of people aren't as high up feel empowered to godin. Ceo directly if they need to how do you think about sort of levels of communication and sort of you creating Presidents of frameworks for for how to think about it. Yeah so. I think practically when you're when you're in a company you want to be doing a lot of things you wanted to skip levels regular skip levels around table without the managed managers for talking just understand what people think about the company. What's wrong with the company. What could be doing better with what's doing being done. Well it's like feedback get feedback from users. You might get on field filter feedback from your employees. You know and then there's all sorts of other things in engagement surveys access on the way that people feel comfortable coming to you. I mean for me. I felt like try to talk to people in the company. And i think there's always it's always going to be hard to create that. So what i found for myself was there. Were some people in the company. I could really give a personal relationship with at different levels. And i would just try to cultivate that personal relationship in talk to that person used them as a benchmark for kind of the sentiment of accompanying general. You know have them encourage other people be like. Oh you know just as a normal guy you can just go talk to him now. Sometimes i wear sometimes. That didn't but that was the best. I could do now. And what about just framework for thinking about organizational structure in general in terms of who reports to. Who were when you change that. How how that in message it in. How do you think about that. The that's like a such a tactical question. I i feel you want to. I think it's hard to answer in this kind of context with so context specific right like it's so specific depending on like what people's expectations are when they came in with expectations are now oftentimes. It's going to lead to transition because we weren't to be happy if you make changes and just like i don't. I don't think i've solved that problem in any way. So you know it's kind of like when you get to this the second offer i guess is like when you come to this position where you're thinking like i need to layer this person. I need to change organizational structure. Whatever you should go talk to people have done it before and figure out. What do they do. Well what did i do wrong. And how about when your image unhappy when you have some really good. But there's a they're unhappy there and and it's often other teammates or or they're not not doing their their best work we would have you seen as the best tactic to sort of get them on the right track or identify whether they can't be you put them on the right track number how talented they are and and get them out accordingly Pay them to quit. So like what i mean is do you should Nine someone was good or do you like them their personal friend or whatever. They used to be good. These have a good attitude Probably very talented. You gonna feel guilty. You're gonna say a this person could come back. I like them or whatever you should just pay them. Whatever severance or whatever arrangement will get them out the door while you still feel good about your relationship because people who are negative are a energy suck on your entire team. It's not their fault right. They're they're almost certainly going to be happier in a different job. Actually there are actively negative. And you feel that. They're actively negative dressy doing them a favor away because they're going to go find a different job that they're going to be happier at and but he doesn't feel like that at the time and so it's just really important to not let these situations faster and so my advice is always just like pay whatever seven is gonna take. Ub feel good about it on our decision rated beforehand. And i go to them in a almost reading off the script. Because otherwise i want soft pedal it or anything when i'm like look. You don't seem happy and i'm not saying that your fault and i'm not accusing you but for me it's like when i don't i don't wanna create a i don't wanna work at a situation where i don't want to create workplace where people feel like i'm portering them every day like that's not my aspiration and i don't feel good about that. So how can we solve this problem like. Here's some here's the options you can become happy. And then if that's the case they wanna go down. The moon goes through a specific time where they guaranteed to do that or you may be should find another job. Here's how i support you in doing that. I can you severance. i can help you find you. Find another job. You'd be happier. Like i will use my resources to do that. I've had that conversation with people in part on good terms and they were gone and my problem was it all worked out you know. And they felt good about it because they didn't want be there total. I wanna use a racial greg's question for the companies that are successful is what separates the ones that are successful from the ones that that aren't the ones that they could be. What are the tips and tricks. Think what are the ones that are successful. The the company's Jordache okay door onerous uber. Right yeah so I think having a very simple product right. I think i'm gonna product that simple. Repeatable is super important. I think a lot of nature was very complex product and i think the pars with a very complex product. It's hard to find efficiency gains in software or process process right and that's why people pay like experts to do this stuff. I feel like the simplicity of the of the product is a super important In order to make scale on unreach- off to recharge. I don't want you to explain your whole recharging. Journey makes some foundries jealous. Who are who are working dutifully with just as a founder. Ceos you mentioned some of the habits you definitely are. There are routinely. What are the best recharging like bang for your buck experiences where there are things. That you'd recommend founders. Think about to make sure that they are recharged. Make sure they have respective can be reflecting. Accordingly in addition to the gratitude journal certain types of trips for certain places that that you went as the ceo you'd recommend will because it was kind of happened but we shut on the company right before corona setting. Go anywhere. I do think that a meditation. Retreat is is worthwhile thing to do Were sort of like retreat. Where you're in solitude. I used to a lot of cases that were distractions where it be like getting outside of myself in like going to a no party somewhere. Whatever but i think actually something where you just. I took one vacation. I remember longtime ago like over ten years ago And it was very strong with. Just i left my phone and i went to Whistler in the summer for four days. And i was by myself and it was very nice. Talking about what i valued in. What care about. And i just think going somewhere by yourself is is is pretty good thing to do. I don't know for my. You know what i do like the last couple of what. I read the entire wheel of time series. Like just in a row you know. Fourteen thousand pages. Semantic that in that was that was something that we time. It's a most epic fantasy series ever created. It's huge like fourteen volume fantasy series of kind of started off in early nineties and the guy was writing them all the way for like twenty years in for founders. Who do a meditation retreat. But there's one day or three days or what what. What can they expect. Or what does the experience like. When you take solitude time would you doing. During that time. I mean i think one big part of it is being more conscious of what is going on in your experience like we're so caught up in the abstraction layers that we created in society of like you jobs worries about work that you're doing. Were not a project. Whatever that you're really not getting down to the lower levels of conscious understanding like what is my experience like oh i feel the sensations. I am thinking thoughts. I'm hungry. i'm having these emotions. I feel is emotional. This emotional content or perceptions of my body and just having that level of consciousness and practicing being at the level of consciousness. You know without judgment. I guess without the value judgment that we often apply to our entire experience. Like oh i have this pain. It's bad i need to change it right now. And you're not thinking about anything except like getting out of that situation but when you're like calm yourself your system down and you're able to sit with it and then you're you're able to say oh i feel sensation it's painful and maybe you don't need to do anything about it at that moment. Maybe it's okay. You know it's a signal you can choose to ignore or to to to pay heed depending on the situation and i think that's very powerful because it increases the or i guess your ability to act in an uncompetitive way like it's increases your agency in a way that how you want to interact with and deal with life in a way that i think is. We don't often give ourselves at that agency and to me. That's been a very important skill to develop. Yeah agency. that's that's perfect. The perfect thing to wrap on nine. I know i and in team in many village founders of have really admired it and learn from a lot of the writings that you You you've done a in just speaking a lot about it. And so i wanna thank you for for doing that for the broader sort of the community for the broader founder community. And thank you for sharing some Some private Learnings and lessons with us With us today. On a saturday awesome. Eric thanks everybody. You're an early stage entrepreneur. We'd love to hear from you. Check us out at village coble dot.

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#C112 (ceiba to celebrant)

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13:39 min | 2 weeks ago

#C112 (ceiba to celebrant)

"Hello words welcome to the dictionary. It is april april. First april fools. Day if you're going to play a prank on somebody please You know have it not be so extreme. Be be nice Don't don't don't do anything too bad. Just you know some something you know that everybody can laugh at at the end I think that's it. Oh maybe i'll sing a little song do do do do boop boop boop boop boop boop that. Is the theme song for today. The first word is sabah. C. e. i. b. sabiha noun from seventeen sixty four one a massive tropical tree of the silk cotton family with large pods filled with seeds invested invested invested with a silky. Floss that yields the fiber cape hawke. I'm not sure how to pronounce that word. Which is spelled k. a. p. o. k. k. k. puck cock and then number two. We just have the synonym cape. This is a spanish word. Probably from the word sabiha which is spelled. Exactly the same way So i would think it's more than probably definitely right. Next is seal. Yeah seal c. e. i l. This is a verb. i think it's just transitive from the fifteenth century one to furnish as a wooden ship with a lining number two to furnish with a ceiling. O- ceiling seal. Your is is literally ceiling probably Let's see this is from the middle. Latin kyla rae. Perhaps from the latin. Kyla rae to which means to carve from kyle or lem which means chisel akin to the latin khaderah with me to cut next. We will see ceiling shortly but first we must talk about this fun word which is pronounced. Kaley kaley yes but it is spelled two ways c. e. l. i. d h. You didn't see that coming. I bet Or you could spell it see. I can't even see e. I l. i. That one makes more sense kaley. This is a noun for from eighteen. Seventy five while there's like three lines of etymology and one line of definition it is scottish and irish and it means a party with music dancing and often storytelling. Well that sounds wonderful. It is a kaley so this is from the irish kelly. spell shorter way and the scottish gaelic. Though that's the more complicated one of course gaelic Which means a visit or a social evening or a party with music and dancing from the old irish spelled c. l. i. d. which means a visit from c. l. e. which means a servant or companion or interesting akin to the welsh word c. l. y. d. d. clearly. Do not know how to pronounce that one which means companion or old brett oh the old breadth that maybe that's another language or a dialect old brett. That word is k. I l. e. d. all right well that was a lot of interesting analogies for. It's just a party. it is a kaley next. We have ceiling. There's the ceiling right above me. There's always feeling pretty much even when you're outside there is a ceiling of some kind out there in the atmosphere. This is a noun from fifteen thirty five one eight the overhead inside lining of a room. I don't know if i'd call it a lining but sometimes if it's fabric i guess that could be a lining but it's you know you are lined by walls and a floor and a ceiling. One be material used to seal a wall or roof of a room and that of course was the one that we just read a couple of words ago number two something thought of something thought of as an overhanging shelter or a lofty canopy as in a ceiling of stars. Oh it would be so fun to go sleep under the stars. Three a the height above the ground from which permanent objects on the ground can be seen and identified three. Be the height above the ground of the base of the lowest layer of clouds when over half of the sky is obscured feel like was a lot of of those in there or at least of for a this is absolute ceiling for be. Synonym is service ceiling five. An upper usually prescribed limit as in a ceiling on prices. Rents and wages. Ceiling is an adjective. Okay next is c. lama ter- yeah noun from nineteen forty three a photo electric instrument for determining by triangulation the height of the cloud ceiling above the earth yet. The clouds sit on a What do they call those things. I am not a meteorological person Actually it's really foggy. Today i looked out the window a little bit. It was pretty foggy. usually that's in the mornings So it's probably gone now. I can't see out the window at the moment but fog is basically just clouds with There's no pressure is a system that's very low to the ground. And so it's literally just clouds going through the street going through wherever you are at your level And it's water condensed into an area And so if you you ever wanted to go through clouds. It's a go to a foggy day and that is clouds So what was i talking about. I lost my train of thought Ceiling yes the height there. Is that the the cloud. Sit on a pressure system. Sometimes it's low sometimes a tie and That is there. That's the ceiling above us but it's the floor to them see. Everything is relative next. We have censure sense. Year sanchar e. i n. t. u. r. e. censure noun from the fifteenth century. A belt or sash for the waste. It is a belt or a sash for the waste. It is from middle english sense. You're from french. Censure from the latin Kink tura and there's more at the word kink scher. It's like the word tincture but with a c. at the beginning or would it be sync. Scher i dunno next. We have cell. You can spell it. C. e. l. or c. e. l. l. noun from nineteen thirty three a transparent sheet of celluloid on which objects are drawn or painted in the making of animated cartoons. Yup if you didn't know cartoons used to be made literally drawing on these transparent pieces of paper essentially but it's celluloid and They would just draw a whole bunch of them and they would paint on the back of them and It's such a fascinating process very very slow. But it's great making things come to life next is sell it on. It is a noun from circa seventeen. Sixty eight one. A grayish yellow green to a ceramic glaze originated in china. That is greenish in color. Also an article with a celadon glaze. This is a from a french word. Celadon maybe i should find what this grayish yellow green. You know what i'm gonna say. It is puke colored probably next we have cell adine or salaheddine noun from the twelfth century. One a yellow flowered eurasian biennial herb of the poppy. Family naturalized in the eastern u. s. The scientific name is chela. Donate them modulus or mejias and number two. The synonym is lesser seldane. Oh it's it's not as good. Let's look at the etymology anything interesting to say. Let's see this is from the latin Shallow donis or caledonia's which means of the swallow. Okay from the greek gela donato's from from gelatin. Which means swallow not sure how that's related to this. Poppy but okay next we have. I think it is pronounced seal seal. I believe it is a suffix spelled c. e. l. e. Doesn't give me a year and it just means tumor or hernia. That sounds bad As in the example varicocele so that's Something will maybe learn about that later. It is from the greek key li. I think that's probably how it's pronounced. K. e. l. e. akin to the old english he alah which means hernia. So tumor hernia suffix is seal. Next is celeb- noun from circa nineteen twelve and we have the number two definition for the word celebrity which we will see in the next episode and our last word we made it. It is the word celebrant. C. e. l. e. b. r. a. n. t. celebrant noun from eighteen. Thirty nine one who celebrates specifically the priest of at the eucharist Okay well maybe. They are celebrating. But i just like the first part is just one who celebrates i m a celebrant. Im celebrating april fools day. Sell brent. I am today. What were the words. We had sabah. Seal kaley ceiling. See lama ter- to make sure i pronounce correctly Sanchar sanchar maybe. It was sanchar. I think i was saint censure. It's sanchar sell celadon cell. dine seal. Celeb- celebrant well. I think i shall pick kayleigh and basically the more complicated spelling c. e. i l. i. d. h. kaley which is a party music dancing storytelling. That's great yeah. I would like to have a lee with my friends and people to hang out with okay so today is oh. I did not move my web pages over to the proper days. Okay it is. Like i said april fools day. It also a syrian new year. It is also national burrito day. It is holy thursday holy thursday. It's the forty four th day of ood and it is the last day of lent. Somehow they added four more days. Because i thought it was just forty fifth day of passover in cyprus cyprus national day it is maundy thursday in denmark norway in india it is annual closing. A bank accounts got close. Your bank accounts today It is also april fool's day in estonia and other places and it is we gotta go to the clicking on the link and clicking on this and click on this it is a particular vendor elia was held so it may not anymore. We was held on april first during ancient rome It is edina day in odessa. India it is arbor day in tanzania. It is civil service day in thailand. It is edible book day. Edible book day. Why would you want to eat your books because then you can't read them anymore Annual event Edible booked a global events celebrate since two thousand various parts of the road edible books are created displayed and small events are held. Doesn't say that they're eaten but maybe they are Oh yes the creations are photographed and then consumed. What kind of books are these. Why why why why. What is what happened. Why this what edible book they are eight. It is also fossil fuel fossil fools day not fossil fuel fossil fool corden subsequent. What is it what is it. Tell me what it is it's about. I'm guessing fossil fuels. But i don't know Okay that was enough of that and it is Fun at workday so have fun at work today. Thank you very much for listening in until next time. This is spencer dispensing information goodbye.

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Proven MS Treatment - The Sunshine Connection

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37:35 min | 2 years ago

Proven MS Treatment - The Sunshine Connection

"Proven multiple sclerosis MS treatment, the sunshine connection multiple sclerosis has long baffled conventional medicine, but a few pioneers have discovered a number of triggers that set off the MS disease, including vitamin d deficiency in a high fat diet Elena, Ravelli was thirty seven years old when she was diagnosed with MS in nineteen ninety five after she had complained of numbness, vertigo, temporary vision loss and fatigue, all of which are classic symptoms of the disease. But what followed was anything but classic or conventional, and it has thrown open the debate on MS. What it is what causes MS and how it might be connected to a range of other neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's Parkinson's, and dementia. A Lena's husband is Palo Zamboni, a professor of vascular diseases at the university of Ferrara in northern Italy prompted by his wife's diagnosis. He began to explore the disease in its common characteristics and. Quickly became convinced that doctors didn't have the whole story. What is multiple sclerosis m s which afflicts around two point five million people worldwide is believed to be a disease of the central nervous system, CNS, which includes the brain, and spinal cord and more. Specifically, it is described as an inflammatory denial in aiding condition, nerve cell branches or axons in the C N S are protected by fatty coating called the mile in chief, which is eroded away de Mylan, aided by inflammation, a process that results in scars are sclerosis, hardening similar to that seen in the arteries or arteriosclerosis de mile a nation tends to occur in the white matter of the brain and spinal cord although, MS symptoms vary depending on the severity of the damage in the axons affected. Doctors don't know exactly what causes the initial inflammation. However, there is some evidence that it could run in families, although this has not been scientifically established. The prevailing theory is that MS is caused by stress and infection, multiple sclerosis symptoms and signs, m s symptoms include those that are sensory resulting in problems with sensations and related to motor control muscle movements and coordination the most common multiple sclerosis symptoms include vision changes including blurred or double vision. Some might experience partial blindness dimmed vision inability to see straight ahead, central vision loss, and in coordinated movements of the eyes vision changes are due to increased inflammation of the optic nerves leading to the is optic nerve rightous cognitive changes in mental impairment, including trouble thinking, clearly memory loss, poor judgment, in inattention, lack of coordination, clumsy movements and loss of balance. Numbness tingling, reduced sense of touch sense of shock running down the neck and spinal cord, especially when moving the head neck burning itching, or pain, on the skin cramping. Ng spasms, and weakness in the arms or legs tremors. Trouble walking and stiffness mood changes including mood swings depression, or manic depression inability to control emotions increasing crying, and inappropriate laughing sexual dysfunction, including lack of sensation in the genitals, trouble experiencing pleasure, orgasm and impotence dizziness vertigo digestive symptoms, including constipation diarrhea loss of control over bowel movements and trouble controlling urination, slowed slurred and hesitant speech, partial, paralysis, and involuntary movements as the condition worsens dementia, and mania as the condition. Worsens iron in the brain. Zamboni found something else, most of the studies, he researched revealed very high levels of iron in the brains of MS patients, but more significantly the veins, that carry blood away from the brain were twisted and obstructed in up to ninety percent of MS patients, these blockages caused blood. To flow back into the brain leaving behind iron deposits, which might possibly be a cause of the associated inflammation and auto immune reactions so MS may fundamentally be vascular disease. He argued which led him to rename the condition chronic Cerebrospinal, Venus. Insufficiency CCS V. I his wife became his first Guinea pig. And she underwent pioneering surgery to unblock the veins near to her brain, astonishingly, her symptoms disappeared immediately, as indeed, they have for hundreds of other MS patients who have undergone Zamboni surgical technique, which he calls liberation treatment by two thousand nine Zamboni had refined, the operation and was using angioplasty where a catheter inserted balloon in a blocked vessel as expanded to open it up to unblock cerebral veins, in one of his earlier pilot studies involving sixty five mega Siemens patients half did not suffer a relapse when symptoms reappear after a period of relief where. Has only twenty seven percent had been relapse free before the operation the average relapse rate for the group overall, however, was not improved by the procedure, and most of the unblocked veins became steamatic restricted again, during the eighteen month follow up one, the first independent preliminary research results have so far been even more ambiguous in the large scale randomized ongoing combined trans cranial an extra cranial Venus Doppler evaluation study, which began in April two thousand nine researchers at the state university of New York in buffalo have been using Doppler ultrasound scans to look for signs of CCS v. I in four hundred ninety nine adult study, participants two hundred eighty nine of whom had miss, however, the researchers found that only around fifty six percent of the MS patients fulfilled criteria for CCS V. I compared with around forty two percent of those with some other neurological disorder and twenty two percent of the healthy controls to. To the plan is now to recruit a further five hundred subjects for a phase, two clinical study into assess them with more advanced diagnostic tools. The search in vain other research has been considerably more damning finding no evidence of any causal link between CCS V I and MS in a study headed by fluorine dope. An expert in Venus blood drainage at Humboldt university in Berlin, the brains of fifty six patients with MS and twenty controls were examined by color coded ultrasound. And various blood flow analysis and no evidence whatsoever of CCS v. I could be found three another study from Germany, this one by researchers at Gertie university. Frankfurt came to a similar conclusion in a report ironically, titled the perfect crime CC as V. I not leaving a trace in MS. The researchers again could find no evidence of Venus obstruction or retrograde flow in the brains of twenty mega Siemens patients in twenty. 'they controls using extra cranial, and trans cranial color. Sinaga RAFI four. Likewise, researchers at university hospital in pot. Ova Italy, could find no evidence of a cause and effect relationship between CCS V. I an inflammatory lesions indicative of possible MS on examining, fifty such patients, along with a further fifty age and gender matched healthy controls five, despite these negative results, there is still the elephant in the room that needs to be addressed. Why have so many MS suffers dramatically improved after undergoing Zamboni, so called liberation treatment, Robert Zivota Nov, who is heading up the research team at buffalo believes he has found the answer in the initial findings already assembled CC as v I is not the cause of MS but might be a consequence or a contributing factor to progression. And I think that has to be studied. He says, what professors Zamboni discovered in terms of anes as something much bigger than MS, we need to understand? The role of the Venus system in the pathology of central nervous diseases, and aging, the Alzheimer's connection if constrictions and obstructions in the Venus system are a characteristic of neurodegenerative diseases in general and not just MS this suggests there might be a common feature shared by other autoimmune and or inflammatory conditions such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's, which are usually associated with aging researcher, carmelina Jemma at the university of south Florida in Tampa has pointed out that inflammation, and degeneration, or both present at certain time points in many chronic neurological disorders. Alzheimer's starts with degeneration and his followed by inflammation whereas the opposite occurs in MS. She says six m s is also similar to stroke, Alzheimer's and schizophrenia, in that they are all conditions characterized by damage to nerve cell communication synapses in brain white matter, seven indeed post mortem, brain. Examinations of MSN, Alzheimer's victims, using history chemical techniques have shown similar damage eight allowing breakthroughs in our understanding of inflammation neurodegenerative diseases that are nothing less than a paradigm. Shift in neuro pathology say researchers at the Cecilie vote clinic for neurology. And Berlin nine nevertheless, if m s has not an isolated disease entity, but a member of a subset of inflammatory conditions that includes Alzheimer's Parkinson's stroke in schizophrenia, then the sixty four thousand dollars question remains what's causing them while everything from family history and viral infection to artificial sweeteners and power lines have been mooted as causes ten? The most compelling evidence was amassed over sixty five years ago, and systematically ignored ever since the swank hypothesis. There's one further feature shared by neurodegenerative diseases. Researchers at Duke University have discovered in a study of seven hundred. Seventy families with Parkinson's patients. They found genetic modifications or changes in vitamin d receptors that rendered them unable to process, vitamin d the main source of which is sunlight eleven. In addition, George, Ebbers and his colleagues at the university of Oxford Wellcome Trust centre for human genetics found a close relationship between MSN and exposure to sunlight when they assessed the prevalence of the disease in Scotland the rate of the disease rose significantly among populations in the more northerly latitudes, where sun exposure was minimal twelve the same team found a similar strong association when they explored rates of MS in various regions of France. Indeed, the prevalence of MS was sometimes almost twice, as high in places with low levels of sunlight as measured by ultraviolet b UV b radiation, levels, thirteen Dr ROY swank and neurologist at the Oregon Health and sciences university in Portland anticipated this discover. Every some sixty five years ago, swank who died in two thousand eight at the age of ninety nine was one of the first identify a link between geographical location and the amount of sunshine were exposed to and poor diet and miss, and as the Duke University. Researchers were to discover much later it wasn't just about our exposure to vitamin d but also our ability to process it in nineteen forty eight. Western Europe was a ready made laboratory for swanks research. It was just three years after a devastating war in diets had changed dramatically across the continent. His first studies took place in Norway, where he discovered that MS was rare in coastal regions and nine times more commonplace in the mountains. Not surprisingly, those living along the coast, had a diet, rich and seafood, while people living in isolated mountain areas tended to eat more meat, milk, eggs, and cheese, fourteen from this and other studies swanks or Mayes that m s might be reversed by e. Eating a low fat diet, a theory that was proven in a group of one hundred fifty mega semen suffers, who agreed to follow such a dietary regime from nineteen forty nine and throughout the subsequent years. Astonishingly swang stayed in touch with them right up until two thousand they were contacted every three months once a year swank in his team would examine them some of the MS patients were unable to stick to the low fat, diet, nevertheless by nineteen ninety one thirty one percent of those eating an average of only seventeen grams per day of fat had died compared with seventy nine percent of those eating around twenty five grams per day and eighty one percent of those eating forty-one grams of fat every day. Fifteen swank also noted the phenomenon that Zamboni had based, his C, C, S, V I theory on M S suffers have poor blood flow in the brain. And it progressively worsens and swank had taken Zamboni theory, one step further by maintaining that the cause of the poor cerebral blood flow was the modern. Diet high in saturated fats sixteen modern crimes if swank was right and m s is primarily caused by our modern high-fat diet. It follows that it's a disease that should be increasing in prevalence and the history of MS appears to bear this out. One of the earliest recorded instances of the disease was in the mid eighteen hundreds and it had become a well recognized disease by the turn of the twentieth century just fifty years or so later, even by nineteen twenty two New York neurologist Israel as Wessler had noted that MS incidences had increased over the previous twenty years, seventeen swank himself noted a fifty percent increase from nineteen thirty five to nineteen fifty eight in Montreal. Quebec while a more recent study in the highly genetically stable population of Sardinia showed that the disease had increased around six fold over the nearly thirty five years prior to nineteen ninety nine eighteen researchers at the Wellcome Trust centre. Her for human genetics in Oxford together with the Canadian collaborative study group, uncovered further clues that pointed to MS being a lifestyle and environmental disease in a study of around twenty seven thousand mega Siemens patients, they found that the prevalence of the disease in men and women had shifted dramatically over the previous fifty years from affecting both genders almost equally two by two thousand six affecting three point two women for every man with the disease nineteen the missing piece, m s is still a relatively rare disease. The overall risk of developing the disease as just one in seven hundred compared with say, the one in three risk for cancer, and the one in twenty two risk for chronic heart disease. If swank is right and given the large numbers of people in the west who consume a high fat diet, you might expect that more people should be suffering from MS, although the rate, does rise, dramatically when MS is viewed as a subset, within the wider range of neurodegenerative disease. The late Charles poser a neurologist at Harvard Medical School believed. He had the missing piece of the puzzle. He was tantalized by m s rates in Hawaii, which varied wildly across the various ethnic groups living there Caucasians born in California. But now living in the islands had three times the rate of MS compared with cock Asians born and raised there on the other hand Hawaii born Japanese had tripled the rate of m s compared with those born and raised in Japan. But now, living in Hawaii, twenty poser explained these contradictory data with his multiple sclerosis trait MS, T theory, which proposed that some people are genetically susceptible to MS. They have the MS t yet do not necessarily ever, develop the disease, only when a certain environmental event, occurs, will they manifest MS and such an event could be anything from infection, vaccination a high fat diet or inadequate exposure to sunshine twenty. This theory is supported by an Italian study that used magnetic resonance imaging MRI in two hundred forty people were related to an MS suffer either. Because it ran in the family familial MS, or it suddenly appeared, sporadic MS. None of the participants had themselves been diagnosed with miss the researchers found that ten percent of those with familial MS had brain lesions identical to those found in actual MS suffers, but no symptoms. Whereas four percent of those with no family history of MS, also had similar lesions. This suggests that those with lesions were all carriers of the MS T, but nothing in their life had so far triggered its manifestation Twenty-one a response, not a disease. So what exactly is MS poser and swank established that it's not an autoimmune disease as doctors have maintained? But an auto immune response such a response, which may include poor blood circulation is likely to be. Triggered by a viral infection like shingles, or chicken pox, a high fat diet food, intolerance, nutritional deficiency vitamin d in particular, and, or parasites. This means that MS is not a progressive and incurable disease, but a response that may be halted once the cause has been identified in reversed. Poser also demonstrated that on its own simply having a genetic proclivity is not enough to trigger. Ms. Doctors are not trained to ask the white question yet. That's the one patience. Most want answered why do I have ax? If medical professionals were so trained. They might be closer to reversing the so-called autoimmune diseases, such as MS, Alzheimer's, and Parkinson's instead of merely treating their symptoms. The amalgam connection. Amalgam, dental fillings could be a cause of multiple sclerosis, and they certainly contribute to worsening of MS symptoms. These fillings, which include mercury the most toxic metal known to man can affect MS patients, mental health, making them more depressed, hostile psychotic and obsessive compulsive. When researcher are L similar it at the Rocky Mountain research institute in Colorado, assessed the mental health of forty seven mega Siemens patients with amalgam fillings and compared them with fifty patients whose fillings had been removed. Those with amalgam fillings, had forty three percent more symptoms compared with those free of such fillings, one as a possible cause of MS when researchers did a systematic search of the literature and pulled a range of relevant studies. Published between nineteen sixty six and two thousand six they found a slight but consistent association between amalgam fillings, and MS two references sad, face one cycle rep nineteen Ninety-two. To seventy two one thousand one hundred thirty nine minus fifty one to j public health dent, two thousand seven sixty seven to sixty four minus six ideal multiple sclerosis treatments since each drug will come with its own set of side effects. It's important as much as possible to opt for a more holistic approach in address, MS with the following methods increasing exercise, working out may assist in boosting strength. Balance muscle tone in coordination exercises that are ideal for multiple sclerosis include walking stretching low impact aerobics Taichi, stationary bicycling, or swimming, and other water exercises. If dealing with heat problems, physical therapy, a physical or occupational therapist may help you learn stretching and strengthening exercises and teach you how to use devices for your daily activities using a mobility aid if needed alongside physical therapy may assist in alleviating leg weakness. And related issues acupuncture. This ancient practice is known to release neuro, hormones and opioids in the body that can help slow down or inhibit, MS, progression, homeopathy various homeopathic. Treatments may work for different MS symptoms such as Kostic him for bladder problems or urinary retention vomit for bowel dysfunction or constipation phosphorus for optic neuroscience Asia for cramps and spasms account for sensory issues. Cooling devices like scarves, or vests. MS symptoms may exacerbate. Once body temperature rises, you can prevent this by using cooling, scarves, or vests, or decreasing your exposure to heat, the Kingsley approach, Dr Patrick Kingsley treated more than nine thousand multiple sclerosis MS patients from his surgery in a tiny village in Leicestershire in the UK until retiring several years ago in almost every case he achieved dramatic improvement in often ca. Complete remission. He is reluctant to use the word here. He found that m s usually manifested in one of two ways functional M S, where muscles failed to perform properly, and sensory MS where the patient feels, numbness and pins and needles. Some patients have both types of symptoms as treatment. Kingsley used to main approaches dietary and lifestyle, along with intravenous infusions of high dose, vitamins. He also manipulated patience jaws on occasions with remarkable success, sensory m s appears to respond better to infusions and removal of amalgam fillings, than to dietary changes, but all cases required a good deal of detective work, and careful history to locate the likely causes one find the trigger over the course of treating my more than nine thousand patients identified the following as primary possible triggers of MS symptoms individual food intolerance, stocks, sig metals, like mercury and lead talk. Exit chemicals like pesticides and food additives. M. S G, aspartame nutritional deficiencies, especially vitamin b twelve magnesium and vitamin infections, like chicken, pox, shingles, Candida and committee at usual forms of stress. Gio Pathak environmental stress drugs, and supplements causing imbalance 'social poisons, like cigarette smoke in alcohol root canal fillings, especially old one, Stemple, mandibular, joint disorders hormonal imbalance Esa, struggling immune systemic or bowel function, or leaky, gut syndrome. It's vital that you work with a health professional who will take a careful detailed medical history to see if any of these factors may be causing your condition to take tests if necessary. The main blood tests, I used included serum Feridan is with cancer patients. MS patients are often tired all the time. You may have hemoglobin levels that are perfectly acceptable, but your serum Feridan an indication of iron stores can be well below normal request a lab test for serum Feridan and not just the standard hemoglobin tests to find out if you need to take iron, thyroid function. Make sure you get fully tested for all your thyroid hormones. F T four free thyroid seen. F T, three free try Ida, thera Nian and TSA, h thyroid stimulating hormone, not just T S H. This will give a full picture of the levels of thyroid hormones actually, circulating in the blood vitamin d many. Researchers are calling MS vitamin d deficiency disease. Make sure to have a blood test for vitamin d as twenty five oh d but don't accept your local laboratories, reference levels is those tend to reflect local levels which in northern countries like Britain are far too. Low ideal levels are sixty five to eighty five nanograms per milliliter, one hundred sixty. Three to two hundred thirteen an M O L L, while twenty to forty nanograms per milliliter fifty to one hundred and M. O L L is insufficient and below twenty nanograms per milliliter, fifty MO L L is definitely deficient, homocysteine, check, your blood level of homocysteine, which is the foremost, arterial, poison contrary to standard reference ranges, the ideal level is below six point zero. M O L, if it's low your body can deal affectively with many undesirable chemicals. It's also an indicator that you have adequate levels of same include a thion, too important detox chemicals. Three change your diet. Avoiding these substances helped the vast majority of my MS patients dairy products including whole and skimmed milk from any animal all cheeses, including vegetarian ones using vegetable rennet yogurt, butter and cream although organic butter and cream may be allowed later. Read the ingredients on packages carefully. And remember that milk has various names like way casing, and lactose to avoid any mistakes never eat anything from a packet, but put them together like your grandmother used to caffeine including decaffeinated drinks. They still have some caffeine chocolate and colas alcohol in all forms refined white flour products, most breads, biscuits, cakes, pasta, pies, and puddings sugar, Brown or white from sugar cane or sugar beet and all other forms, such as corner maple syrup, all chemical additives, especially aspartame and monosodium glutamate watch out for its other names like free glutamates, or glutamic acid, and fizzy drinks, ideally, anything in a packet, or ten and anything with the list of ingredients on it all fruit to begin with candidate might be involved. All gluten grains, wheat rye, oats and barley, all red meat beef, lamb, and pork all saturated fats citrus fruit, a bladder irritant to some people deadly Nightshade 's if you. Suffer from muscle spasms. This includes potatoes, tomatoes, aubergine, eggplant peppers and tobacco to be avoided at all costs four, what should the MS patient? Eat lots of vegetables raw, if possible or steamed and fruit salad item nuts seeds in spice whole grains, fish, especially oily, types, like salmon mackerel, and sardines chic- in Turkey in wild game. Quality water filtered or bottled in glass, and caffeine free. Herbal tea Esa Bryce oat and nut milk organic, everything if possible or be prepared to grow, it yourself, you may have caffeine withdrawal, headaches, or feel more tired than before are developed lower back pain. But they shouldn't last more than a few days, and they are signs. You're getting better drink. Plenty of quality water with half a teaspoon of pure, sodium bicarbonate in each glass until you feel better withdrawal, headaches are usually due to your tissues, releasing acidic, chemicals and bicarbonate neutralizes acid. As the damage to your central nervous system may have been long-term don't expect immediate results, you may find you sleep better, your bowels, work better, and the headaches, you used to get regularly are gone. Your skin may noticeably improve in your face may look healthier less pinched and less pale. Some patients notice improvement in their MS symptoms shortly after changing their eating habits. But it's possible that further changes are needed if your symptoms don't improve within three months. You may notice your muscles are less stiff, or don't spasm, so easily. You may walk better and in a straighter line, and some sensory symptoms may diminish. But if changing your eating habits has no noticeable benefits or you start to lose weight, you can ill afford to lose, then don't stick with the diet that isn't right for you. Five consider intravenous infusions. Most of my patients benefited from intravenous vitamins and minerals and sometimes the effect was dramatic one young woman from over. Seize arrived at my consulting room laboriously dragging one leg with the help of two sticks. She had both sensory and functional. Ms after taking her complete history. I suggested an intravenous infusion in a change of diet at home. She rang me from her home, the next day to say she had walked virtually normally across the airport forecourt to her car. The beneficial effects lasted three months before her symptoms started to return when she came for a second infusion, the benefits, lasted seven months after that, I found someone in her own country to give her the infusions patients with sensory MS are easier to treat primarily with intravenous infusions replacement of mercury amalgam fillings, in management of chicken, pox shingles virus in my experience. These sensory symptoms can indicate a vitamin b twelve deficiency in the nervous tissue cold fingers, and toes can sometimes feel like pins and needles and can be a sign of a magnesium deficiency. Diet plays a much smaller role in this type of MS than in the functional type even the vitamins included in the infusions are generally different, although they all usually have large doses of vitamin b twelve up to thirty thousand M, C G on occasions as lower doses are less effective. If you can find someone to give you intravenous infusions, I suggest for sensory types vitamin b one one hundred milligrams vitamin B, two twenty five milligrams vitamin B, three twenty five milligrams, but not in women initially as it can trigger headaches vitamin B, five two hundred fifty milligrams, vitamin B six one hundred milligrams full of acid five milligrams vitamin B twelve five thousand to thirty thousand M, C G, raising the dose, each time to find the most effective one vitamin c five thousand milligrams, magnesium sulfate, one gram zinc. Twenty five milligrams molybdenum one hundred M C, G selenium one hundred. M. C G. Chromium one hundred M C G for functional types, magnesium, five grams, increased slowly in increments, vitamin B, twelve five thousand M, C, G. These patients, always also need dietary changes, as well as mercury amalgam filling replacement and treatment such as an antifungal regime for anything else. They have six detox from amalgam. Fillings, if you decide to replace your mercury fillings, it's essential to take key lady minerals starting shortly before the first dental session and continuing throughout the treatment, even between visits to the dentist, as this is based on the individual patient. I can't tell you the exact doses to us. It's best to work with an experienced practitioner, who can monitor any side effects in principle. The more fillings, replaced, the more key -lating nutrients larger total doses, you'll need to take daily and for longer to as a rough guide, I suggest three hundred to nine hundred m c g per day. Elemental selenium three to six grams per day vitamin c ninety to one hundred fifty milligrams per day, elemental, zinc, ideally, and three times a day, you should take selenium in doses of one hundred to three hundred m c g a half hour before meals vitamin C, one to two grams with meals, and zinc, thirty to fifty milligrams. An hour after meals. You can also divide them into two separate doses. How long should you be taking such large doses? I recommend that you start at least one or two weeks before you start the procedure so that you reach your target dose by the time the dental work begins. This is to ensure you can tolerate such high doses take all tablets and capsules with a full glass of water, especially if away from food it may cause imbalances of other nutrients, such as copper, but thous ends of my patients have followed this approach, successfully still you need to know what suit you and you'll need a few days to find in reach your target dose, the best way. Way to tell if a patient has taken key -lating agents for long enough as to note, whether new symptoms appear out of the blue, these could be unusual or new headaches spots anywhere on the body boils dry corners of the mouth pain, or aching joints. Not previously, a problem or just suddenly not feeling as well as before these could be the adverse effects of too much selenium. You can also take bio Chela drops just before meals starting with five drops. Three times a day for the first week ten drops three times a day for the next week and up to twenty drops. Three times, daily thereafter, exactly how long you should take the highest dose will vary from person to person. But, again, the more numerous in larger your fillings, in the longer, you've had them in your mouth, the longer it will likely take two key late all the mercury and other heavy metals from your body and as we're all exposed to toxic heavy metals that we can't avoid taking a few doses. Every so often as also helpful, I suggest continuing the bio cellist for. About three months on the highest dose, and then take it occasionally. If you feel you've benefited from it, and you deteriorate in any way on stopping then restart it for about a month and see what happens. So far, as I am aware, there are no problems with long-term use a simple word of caution be aware of the possible, adverse effects of zinc. If you have an abnormally, high body content of copper taking zinc, can displace all that copper, which must then be disposed of via the liver, and bile duct into your intestines. This may cause considerable digestive problems and make you feel ill, although it will vary from one person to another. I suggest that about two weeks after the dental work has been completed, you reduce Alenia m- to one hundred m c g per day in zinc to thirty milligrams per day and continue bio cello. Once a day away from other nutrients with bio, cellist, you can affectively, stop the selenium, zinc, although the company advises taking a small amount such as fifteen milligrams. Of elemental, zinc last thing at night, I also suggest continuing to take at least one hundred m c g per day of selenium for a long time. If you can't replace your amalgam fillings, or just don't want to consider taking five drops of bio, Chela, three times a day in a glass of water before meals. Seven take supplements, vitamin d three suggested daily dosage five thousand I you probiotics if you've taken more than the occasional course of antibiotics, you'll need probiotics to replenish. The friendly, gut organisms killed off by the drugs. Unless you've been following an anti Candida diet and perhaps taking chlorine dioxide for a long time. A good quality multivitamin mineral omega three essential fatty acids. These are anti inflammatory whereas mega six fatty acids are inflammatory vitamin B, twelve this is essential because it's important for nerve tissue suggested daily dosage five thousand to thirty thousand. M. C G. She intravenously magnesium, especially necessary for functional. MS patients suggested daily dosage six hundred milligrams. Orally, if large doses caused diarrhea you can opt for a transdermal lotion, or spray vitamin k to strontium and boron. These may all be helpful if you're MS prevents you from exercising, or you're at risk of osteo, neurosis anti-oxidants, if free radicals might be involved in your condition, then consider a mix of vitamin a cod liver oil, vitamin c with bioflavonoids and vitamin E. If your thyroid is low whole natural thyroid extract, plus supplements, specifically for the thyroid adrenal glands, I tended to use bio care, T H, two hundred seven in a d two hundred six for thyroid in a dream support respectively. Dr Gary, m Levin's remarkable multiple sclerosis treatment, you can have a future without multiple sclerosis m s free life has not an impossible dream with this. 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Being a Professional Musician with Bipolar Disorder

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Being a Professional Musician with Bipolar Disorder

"Welcome to the central show where each episode presents an in depth. Look at issues from the field of psychology and mental health with host gave Howard and co host Vincent, m Wales. Hello, everyone and welcome to this week's episode of the psych central show podcast. My name is gave Howard and I'm here with my fellow host, Vincent, m Wales and today Vincent, I will be talking to Erik Nielsen, who is the author of sound mind, my bipolar journey from chaos to composure. She is a professional cellist and a writer who lives in Toronto, which is in Canada. Erica, welcome to the show. Thank you so much gave invents. It's such an honor to be here. We are glad to have you, thank you. So I, I want to say that holy cow. I envy you for being a professional musician that had been a dream of mine is, as young man. Didn't quite hit it. You know, I think that's a it's a common star for so many people. But, you know, and then some of us were able to stick with it. And that's what I do for a living. Yeah. And so you were in your late twenties when you were diagnosed as bipolar correct? So I was diagnosed in my late twenties, and it seems to be a pretty common story for those bipolar disorder to be diagnosed in their late twenties. Soy's -ssume that, by the time you were diagnosed you were well into your musical career. Is that right? Yes. I was so in sound mind, which is a unique buck in that. It's both apart memoir and apart self-care manual the first. Section tells my story about growing up in a musical household becoming a professional musician professional Chela and along the way, I share the symptoms. I had that led to my diagnosis of type one BI polar disorder in the second section of sound mind outlined, all of the habits, I had to change the self-care steps and the tools, I use to achieve stability, very cool. Obviously, we don't want to read the book on the show because we only have twenty some minutes, but we're some of the symptoms that led to your diagnosis, well, bipolar. Disorder often I present says major depression, in, for example, teenagers. I think I can look back in even see symptoms within my childhood in terms of not sleeping well, kind of aggression, that I would that hold in, and I had mulch with pain depression on the outside. I was cheerful and bubbly. In our thick and outgoing but behind closed doors myself works out, like euro. I I'm very, very, very depressed. I felt wretched and worthless. And that I didn't deserve my Hellen for my privileges. I very sadly culminated in a suicide attempts. And I was to file for a long time and at the time the people around me, my family, my community, would tell me. Oh, yep. You're perfectly normal normal ups and downs. This is what teenagers experience. And I believe, but, you know, I had this haunting suspicion for years. I mean, a decade leading up to my to my real diagnosis that there was something more going on. I just I just knew in my heart. Like you know, it's not normal to want to take your own life. It's not normal to be this depressed. Now, I'm telling you, the Simpsons I noticed when I was growing up were depr-. Symptoms. That all I noticed, though, fast forward for my teen years throat, my twenties, I had always seen therapist because, again, I suspected that the symptoms, I experienced as a teenager with depression. There was something more to it. It wasn't quite right. So I saw therapist throat my twenty thinking I was just taking care of my childhood issues and getting ready for a normal adulthood, and, you know, and then I got married at age twenty seven and a month after my wedding, I was just totally high as a kite, you know, my crew is walking. I was starting a new chapter, you know, like creed in my house, and I and I decided, you know what I'm going to find out once and for all what the teen depression, were all about. I'm going to go to the doctor, I'm gonna get myself a professional diagnosis and psychiatric analysis. And they're gonna Pat me on the back. Tell wet my family and everyone in for years, that I'm completely normal or I have a very boring condition like mild, social anxiety or twenty first century syndrome. And I'm gonna walk out of there feeling amazing while spoiler alert. That's not what happened when I got that, like, yeah. Trick assessment. It's interesting what you said that the depression, you realized was abnormal. But it it sounds like you didn't notice the mania at all. And that's very common. Mania feels good. You know, speaking Philo person who lives with my polar disorder. It's like I feel great. Yeah. I'm gonna run to the doctor because I feel great that doesn't. I. I know. Like I had no idea what mania was. And I think that's a really common story. I thought I was just me and what being awesome me was in meant. I felt amazing most of the time and I'd laid creative ideas because I'm a musician. I'm an artist I like to write on that, too. I am I don't really sleep all that, well, closing my eyes and feeling like I'm watching TV channel flicker and with background music. That's the placing feels like to me. I don't know any different and my hyper sexual. Absolutely. I'm off this guy, and so my symptoms of mania. They were presented to me a symptoms, and it was complete news. To me, it was the shock of my life when the psychiatrist adjusted that at least a few periods of my life, where actually manic episode and. Not just may being me. How did you react to that? What did you say the doctors? No. No. That was just me. I was in complete this belief denial without even knowing it. I already had bigm towards mental illness, the day that I was diagnosed with a mental illness. My stigma came up the image that came to mind, where bag Grint people on the read pains yelling at each other homeless people. It was it was really really I'm ashamed to say what I thought by polar was, and I had to do a lot of research to learn about this condition that I was told I had, it took me a long time to come to terms with what bipolar disorder was and learning about it. It's a lot to tick in for anybody. Yeah. All of a sudden, I went from being a widely successful professional. Cellist and teacher and artists. And I thought my life was rocking. I was a newlywed and all of a sudden, I became a person with a mental illness overnight house to be shocking. Yes. Getting back to us ical aspect of your life, a lot of creative people, whether it's music, or writing, or what have you have been known to or at least we're believed to have been mentally ill in some capacity. Do you feel? There's any connection with your creativity and your mental illness. I, I want to answer that in kind of two ways, as I mentioned before when I was first diagnosed in learning. But mania I assumed that my mania was the essence of what made me who I was an artist. And that mania was solely responsible for my creative spirit, and my flight of ideas, I was resistant to taking medication because I remembered feeling flattened what back in my teens I'd taken some fsr is for depression. And that made me feel really, really flat. And I assume that that would happen to me again if I treated by polar disorder. But when I understood the Verity of my manic episodes, I was more interested in the cheating stability. So after a few years of patient trial and error, and finding the right medication combination. I just covered here's the drum rule when I am having Mannix than some I feel more creative, and like my most amazing cell in the thinning wheel Oculus nece that I fear in. But that isn't really the case. I think I'm being more creative and expressive. But in reality, my thoughts, they're racing. So thought I can't articulate the well or a complete them. I'm too frenetic to complete the tasks. They start and I did not accomplish more and with very few exceptions. I'm not a better version of myself. It just feels that way. And I came up with this sentence that I think, really. Sums up mania and the allusion that it is mania masquerades as creativity in the same way that left mass grid as true lasting love. It's the chemical reaction within our brain, and it's a seductive, allusion destig-, I realized, I'm just as creative when I'm stable because that is who I am. I'm a creative artistic colorful person and now that I've treated my condition. I'm able to actually complete the tasks and ideas, I start and I can follow my projects to fruition. And isn't that really the the key? I know what you mean about getting all of those great ideas at three in the morning. Of course, about thinking of a billion ways to solve all of my problems, your problems, the world problem, I haven't throw in some Vincent problems. But I have absolutely no ability to take it from idea to fruition. It's know let's, let's talk about a being a cellist for a moment. Would you say that it was difficult to practice when you were mad? Because I imagine I'm just I'm just going by stereotype here to be a professional cellist. You probably practice hours a day. Oh, yeah. Absolutely hours a day and no doubt polar affected my playing the musician you, I can't imagine sitting still for hours a day to accomplish anything during both major depression, and, or a major Hypo manic, or manic episode, so that in and of itself, should prove to all of our listeners that yeah, yeah, mania is not awesome. We're going to step away to hear from her sponsor, and we'll be right back. This episode is sponsored by better health dot com, secure convenient, and affordable online counseling all counsellors are licensed credited professionals anything you share conflict. Dental schedule secure video, or phone sessions, plus chat, and text with your therapist, whenever you feel. It's needed a month of online therapy, often cost less than a single traditional face to face session. Go to better health dot com forward slash psych central and experienced seven days, a free therapy to see if online counseling is right for you better help dot com forward slash psych central Roco back everyone. We her with Erik Nielsen, author of sound mind my bipolar journey from TAOs to composure when I was living with untreated, BI polar disorder before I knew I had it. I suffered from major performance anxiety destructive and ruminating thought mostly about my worthiness and ability. I was experiencing auditory hallucinations. And Blake hang out, I was experiencing problems focusing, suicidal thoughts and extreme impatience than irritability. I'd be practicing along intensely focused on what I was doing. And there's a scene in my. Tuck where my comes over, and he, and he basically whipper I point your tea, and I'm and I go, what are you doing? Get outta here. I'm pretty much just lose it this year. The -bility was constant for me and then sleeping poorly made all of the above them even worth and vice versa. So I thought all this was just a part of being a performer, and an artist and having an artistic personality, or I thought it was a sign that if I got performing things I'd be, maybe I didn't deserve to be a musician. Or maybe I shouldn't be a musician. I didn't even realize how thing it was to live in my brain until I finally got my diagnosis and found the right treatment. And interestingly, as we know people bipolar disorder. Austin also suffer from co morbid disorders, like major anxiety, or ADHD, and I suffered from both of those. So I was working extremely hard all the time to cope with and hide my symptom. So I'm incredibly relieved I found an accurate diagnosis and amazingly treating my bipolar also treated the symptoms that affected my playing, and now I could perform better than I ever thought possible. I perform with more focused and easing ever and allow my true Bility's to shine I still feel nervousness and excitement when I performed. But now in proportion and manageable, and I can sometimes even used it to my advantage. My thoughts are now organized and nontoxic. It's almost like someone turns volume dial down forty percent with holler level. So I'm no longer scattered. I can focus little things. Don't distracter bother Manny more Gade. You're talking about, you know, you know, thinking about the five million ways to solve all the world's problems that three in the morning, and that been dialing all down to maybe thinking of Rewe's solve the world's problems and then being able to execute. Right. Exactly, exactly. There's a there's a quote that I really love it. It has absolutely nothing to do with bipolar disorder, but I've applied it because, you know that's what I do. And it's never let perfection getting the way of progress. I love that quote dead. Yeah. And it's one of the things that I always had a really, really hard time with, once I got treated once I found coping mechanisms. And once I got better. Yeah. When I look at them, objectively when I look at plans that I have are they perfect. No. But there in the world every article that I have ever written. It's not perfect. I go back and read them, and I find a comma that's out of place. I'm like I wish I would have been a little articulate over here. Or I read the comments section of you're right. I, I should just on and on and on and on and on. But because I was able to get treated all of these articles are out in the world to be discussed and to gain value. And whatever that value is up to the reader. And that's what I've learned, as well before I got treatment. They were all in my head just up there. Right. Right. Not getting out there and not seeing any readers. That's gave that's one of my absolute favorite quote. I also I also reframe it to be perfection is the enemy of great zero s. Yes. I love that a love that a lot. I wanna switch gears for a moment. And one of the examples that I always use in every speech that I give about living with bipolar disorder, is I take medication for bipolar disorder, and I tell people that, you know, it's there are side effects. There's most commonly sexual side effects there, there's other types of side effects, and I it, you know, I had to find the right medication that worked for me, and I always say, for example, one of my medications gives me a slight tremor. But hey, I'm not a professional musician. So I don't care, right? Well, I'm now talking to somebody who lives with bipolar disorder who is a professional musician was this difficult for you, because a slight tremor is very common. In many of the bipolar medications at been great. Question gay. They mentioned it took me two years to find the right medication that works for me the right cocktail, as some people call it. They for some people, it they're still on that path, and it's taking them even longer. So took me two years. And I'm not the medication. I take is not free of side effects, but it has side effects that I can live with as a professional musician. I'm very fortunate that I do not have a tremor, and it allows me to get the rest, I need. I can sleep, you know, sometimes upwards of nine to ten hour and as a freelancer, I mix, I recognize I'm extremely fortunate that I can get you all my activities around my need for the sleep that my medication gives me, I think, give me I don't say my medication make me sleep for too long. My medication gives me the place that I need to repair my. Brain. And I recognize that, you know, other people have nine to five jobs. They need to be up at seven they need to be in their office by eight thirty. I don't have to do that. So I can for example, I don't schedule any private lessons or rehearsals before ten in the morning. Just though, I have time to take my time in the morning and be my freshest and Austin perform late in the confidence that I play, the example last week, I was performing concert of the music of prince purple rain and this week, it was a baroque concert for with music for harpsichord and Elton. John's greatest hits will all the concerts ran very late. So I made sure to not schedule anything first thing in the morning, so that I could get the rest that I need the help treat my condition very let me just jump back to stigma. Yeah. You said that when you were diagnosed, you just had this automatic stigma that popped up? How did that change? And when did it change? When I was I, I noted by polar disorder I wanted to learn as much as I possibly could about the condition. And I recommend the for anyone who's diagnosed with any mental health emission, mental illness, learn of much of the possibly can about it sounds obvious. But I think there's still a lot of people out there that have just go to the doctrine. Seek treatment without really learning about what's going on them. I read kind of how to guides written by Dr and I also read personal account books about people who live with bipolar disorder. One of my favorite is action, graphic memoir, it's illustrations written by cartoonist written by Ellen Forni called marvel mania depression, Michelangelo in me and reading that book was so monumental in making me feel like I wasn't alone because I. I think feeling 'isolation is lily really dangerous and is, is really, really hard. Fissile lonely. Yeah. So as I mentioned, I when I was I land with his diagnosis, my own stigmas came up around it. And as I learned more about the condition, and I learned about famous figures who suffered from it, especially other artists and writers and musicians, and I learned how common it was. So the more knowledge, I armed myself with the more my own stigmas now, the way and sigma, so tough. My heart is just so full of compassion now for others who have mental health conditions like mine. I thought someone the other week on the subway, and he was clearly psychotic. He's having a really rough day. And I just felt for him. I kind of mild nodded, and I and I said, I hope you take good care. I know how many of us there are out there. I stay still prevalent, you know, while we're starting to have conversations about depression, anxiety, and self care and becoming conversational. I think the two biggies by Poland get the front. A lot of people aren't ready to touch, yet, and I'm hoping to help change that. I'll wanna talk a little bit about other stigma toward self care rest, getting sleep you need. I came from a workaholic environment. And when I was taking a moment of rest or break any moment like that. I meant made me feel like I was being lazy and self-indulgent and not productive. And I made myself physically sick with gastric reflexes and digestive issues. And I reached havoc on my mental health from being a workaholic and now that I've had to treat my chronic stress and chronic workaholics them to treat my bipolar disorder. I had to rethink my. Whole schedule and the whole way, I approach my work life, and I got it tell you guys Gabe invinci-. I am so over chronic frantic business and what I've discovered is. It's still possible. I have a very full schedule. But I put changes in place to make sure I'm not racing from one thing to the next which just exasperate my condition. There's also a huge segma- out there against getting adequate sleep and prioritizing sleep. We also all know someone who brags about how little sleep, they get, or they think they can function on just a few hours, like sleeping more somehow means you're not being productive. I completely disagree. I can get so much more done now that I'm fully rested, my brain can actually repair and heal itself, though. The opposite is absolutely true. The more rested, I am the more productive. I am and my waking hour on love you just listed, like five of the. Ten psych central show podcast that Vincent, I have done. We talk about sleep. Hygiene all the time. We talk about this, this idea that people have with self care being somehow, you know, bad sleeping. Lazy on and on. You just you really covered a lot of myths that the, the people who are mentally healthy, and I making air quotes in society, just believe. And if you believe it, we'd all should be working sixteen hour days, getting four hours of sleep, a night, never doing anything for ourselves and being at somebody else's Beck, and call twenty four seven all for minimum wage, and that sounds nuts. When you say at that way, but you're right. People believe these things in the abstract all the time. I know it's fascinating to me, so thanking totally back, Ning me too, and something really cool. And as I've come out with my condition with my book all about, it witching, which includes the south care that I took toward ability, a lot of friends and family have. Been reading the buck, and they're noticing that the self care sets I took are useful for them or for their friend who has anxiety or for the other friend who has schizophrenia, these, the cell care that we need people with mental health conditions, everybody can benefit from following them. I know imagine that imagine that everybody has a brain that everybody should take care of while. I wonder if other people know about. I mean, North American worker hall, as them is, I think, is making us all sick. I completely agree. I agree to one of the things that you didn't specifically mention resettled. Think you did is that it's hard to go through this all on your own. We do need a support network. So I know you're married, tell me about the role, your spouse's played in supporting throughout all this. I love to. I've gotta say to those who are newly diagnosed I take finding support is essential. Not everybody has a supportive, specic I do now get to that in a second, but finding that support network. Even if and I know many people with undiagnosed, mental health condition may have even pushed away some all of your close port network. I know I found tremendous care support in the support groups. I join when I was I, I ag- nosed and still regularly seek care support from the. Tronto bipolar disorder meet up group. I talk about the port groups in my book sound mind. And something that rates remember is that even if I don't feel like going to my support group, I know that I might be support for someone else, and we actually need other. So my spouse is absolutely rock. He is you could say opposites attract, you know, I'm a bubbly outgoing person and he's always been kind of quieter and more reserved. And we balance each other out that way. I realized how incredibly lucky I am to have a support of partner when I'm experiencing symptoms. He can help made by sort of Mirroring back me what it is. He is noticing. So if I'm experiencing a mood episode usually, I'm pretty good at knowing what's going on. But sometimes he can really see it too. And he can relate make. I'm not things that today you re potted all of our plants and you've been listening to this Brian Wilson record on repeat about eight. Eight times in a row, while clocking nonstop have you noticed that? And I say, yes, I've noticed that. And then together we can take action and to treat my symptoms as they come up. He's the courts me, and that he's on board as my payment, mate, and we treat my bipolar as a team. And when it go time when I'm really unwell where they were in it together, and I know how, how lucky I am have someone who's willing to do that. That's great. So tell us where can we find your book he can find my book for American listeners? It's available on Amazon dot com. Barnes and noble for Canadian listeners on Amazon dot CA. Indigo or chapter awesome. Did you have a website that people can find just you personally? I believe you have a blog. Yes. Yes. So my blog is sound mind. Book dot com and articles there have also been published. For BP hope dot com and soon will be Ulta published for psychology today magazine. And if you wanna know more about me, as a professional cellist than educator, you can check out one word cello Erica, with a K dot com and I can be found under the handle at cello Erica, with a K on Instagram and Twitter will thank you again for being here. And thank you everyone else for tuning in. We really appreciate it. And remember, you can get one week of free convenient affordable. Private online counseling anytime, anywhere simply by visiting better health dot com slash psych central. We'll see everybody next week. Thank you for listening to the slunk central show. Please rate review, and subscribe on I choose wherever you found this kost. 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Norm Chella on Podcasting in Japan, ideas for bilingual shows, and S3 of PodLovers Asia

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Norm Chella on Podcasting in Japan, ideas for bilingual shows, and S3 of PodLovers Asia

"This episode was edited by Dead Said podcasting. If you want your podcast to sound this good checkout deadset podcasting dot com forward, slash services get the sound yo chasing Sir long and thanks for all the fish. A. K.. Solve just finished rating kitchen marcus got to the galaxy that's what it comes to mind. This is dead set podcasting completely unrelated to Wacky saw. This is a show about podcasting which you probably already I, if this is your first time hearing the show, this is the weirdest thing char. The show is ever GonNa have. So Fret not I'm not sure where this is all coming from. Today is part two of a conversation I had with Norman Taylor from. Pud? Love is. Absolutely. Amazing. Going today was probably what? Was the most interesting part of conversations are separated into a separate episode. So it's concise but it's still super interesting and it's maybe something that if you're familiar with the majority of shows to talk about podcasting, you probably haven't heard they subjects talked about and if you have probably not at the depth and with the honesty. And just intelligence that norm handles the subject of, for example, the Japanese podcast market how they culture influences podcasting. What may or may not be true about a markets such as Japan and also we talk about. Potentially producing shows in mold of one language inside of the same podcasting architecture. So within the same Shar, how maybe you could approach if you have to be blood lingual and you'll speaking with bilingual guests and all year have multiple audiences. How you could approach may be having episodes that are Ada. In more than one language within assignment beside. Oh having transcripts of yarn besides in a different language that you doing, yourself will have a team to four year. 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New Zealand and South East Asia follow along with today's episode over did sit podcasting DOT com. Okay. Here we go. Keyword and an omen you think you've not that Adler Parke's. Familiar and off made a mistake in the past when I've done showers of thinking that people would care about. Being at about in the world doing different things walk on a celebrity checking in and that's why today I'm talking to my find next up on my broadcast equipment and. The wake lighter on. You know on my intake J. Road voiceover macher fine that sounds different. Everybody that listens with care and I think they. Don't care at all I want us any Australian expression say that my described that better but. They don't care in the slightest. They just preferred I sanded pretty much the same. Every week and that at least moss to the coal is produced in the same way that one week it's not. Boom, IVA compressed multi, Band Hail, and the next week. It sounds like I'm talking a my ball and this is a really definitive reason why I would do that. Yet, so we probably going wild track there in the in, but I think. There's plenty to take away from that. So I don't WanNa Cape, Noam forever and I trying to steal more of his time in the future which I'm GonNa wear con Voy a mile off the tonight. So I just wanted to talk about the mind point of today and it Sanni taken forty five minutes to get the. That's probably fifteen minutes quicker than my normal is. One thing I will say one thing I love about your shirt and this may be a cultural thing. And some of the most fun people that I've been around a papal. The appearance Indian. And they just such healthy loftus and I don't know if that's something throughout Asia in general, but you'll such a generous lava Ed. So your guests a heavy law office and Sometimes I think. When it shows that a meant to be quote unquote serious or informational that people cut out a lotta the laughter old I if a joke goes off on a tangent. and. You laugh at then you get back onto the point. That stuff just gets caught up. But I love hearing that stuff is the listener. 'cause you are obviously very articulate, but you'll pricing noreen English is as quick as anyone of hood speak on a podcast you'll to be pretty funny but more than that you seem to love laughing. If you thought about the fact that you might be Lawf- more audibly than other podcast is or am I just is that something that you is part of you'll? You'll culture to laugh. I. May Not be by that at formula my misreading that or is that something? You just WANNA leaving there? No you're getting. You're getting onto something there. I wouldn't look at it as a cultural thing though I would look at it as more. A reflection of my character I started to notice that when I was building show knows interviewing people and you know when you check the different channels or different tracks for yourself and and the other person. And you would see the Staccato is right. The laughs and I saw that it was so loud, Mike Wow. Why did I laughed that hard and I'm not sure if it's because of my plug INS or whatever. But you know just hearing untreated and I'm like Oh my God I'm laughing so hard I laughed more than. The guest while they're talking maybe if it's a joke and we both the same time I can forgive that. But what if it's something offbeat that they've said and I'm laughing because I caught it because I like that I love that so much. When I'm listening to just the audio track itself. So without the video. In Post, it would sound like. I'm not really listening to what they're saying. This is what I was thinking at first. But then why did instead was? I wanted to keep the. Humane aspect of the compensation in if I laugh at this part, I do want to keep it in. So I just reduce the volume of that laugh in itself and it just keep it in the background to let the listener. No. I did catch it and I thought it was funny and to it's not a serious show because it never was meant to be a serious show. It's meant to be informative show, but it doesn't have to be serious. But Yeah Yeah. Thank you for for for actually catching up because no one is ever told told me about the laughing bit because I've been thinking about it recently as well. It's funny because I, just started listening to loves is your maybe two weeks ago and listen to a favorite of it. And a just downloaded this book for an upcoming Guest Kristen Montana. and. I'll have to go back in my showroom pronouncing uncritically that didn't come out route but it. Got This phenomenal buckled saw you wanNA start a podcast but he's very steeped in public radio history and she's just got this amazing accent to me but she's being criticized for her accent. She's from Minnesota. I think. So it's a Minnesota mates, New York public radio mix accent criticized for that a lot more than anything on her original podcast she got criticized for laughing too much. and. That's Costra Leeann people don't take themselves all that. seriously. You would die that gnome not luck Yup some people from other English speaking countries in the Western. World do we don't think that? You know. We don't think everything's important but laughing to me is one of the most joyous things to bear and not just because on was. Trying to do stand up a complete rookie hearing laughs as the greatest single thing ever as a comedian. And you cling on that it's like it's like oxygen but just day to day hearing people laugh can just leave you spirits in general. It's just good to bay ran and. and. So a do really locked at he's leaving any nay because a lot of people would cut the net. And them on obey real point to just the fact you did it made me feel happy listening to it. So it's probably a victory in and. But? Let's get back to my original point. Once again, I don't know if you realize had on the king of data as and hopefully there's information in the day tos. That's where the stuff is. That's what I'm telling myself. I'm lying to myself noam. That the gulled is those day to us. That's I love I love those details I get into a lot myself in all you got wires. Feel. Shore because. You're doing what I would love to be able to do. If I had you know, falls having those conversations He let that guy that's great because. We got somewhere. We weren't expecting to get to, which is great. Sorry. He is the question for today when fifty one minutes in. So that was six minutes of me talking. So. What what? Does the Western podcast market. Let's just call it that. What do we get wrong about where the isolation podcasting experience is at because he thinks, for example. There's a big voice in the space quite often says. That the Japanese weren't stop podcasting. It's not posit it's not part of their culture to be. Talking about themselves and about their own experience publicly. I'll. I'll put it out because he's made its public. It's Todd Cochran from blueberry. Oh who actually think is pretty funny dude but. He said that his wife. I wish I could remember I'm sorry. Key account remember but he said that she would never start a podcast but he generalized. Lack of wanting to have a public persona all. Content add in the world. As being generalized, able to Japan in general and you've lived there and you know about the Asian podcast market of which is One of the Asian countries in case you not real good with geography. Globally to. So can you tell us if you know anything about Japan? What you might happen but also let's maybe used the example of maybe hell paypal of looking at it potentially rump because the white you reacted then Norman people might not, of Coal Ovidio. Your reaction in the Odia is. Now that's BS. Japan podcasts. I. I'll be polite and I wasn't going to say that it's Bs but. that. Okay. All right. Yeah it is. It's but the thing is. I understand where taught is coming from and is a great person to talk because I was actually on his show recently for a podcast global. So we were just talking about like podcasts. PODS grade. I see where he's coming from because when we don't know enough about market, the first thing we look for is second order observations. Such as cultural nuances, behavior's standard routine. Movements and are thinking processes of the people that we meet and you know when you have someone that is close to you that comes from this country. It's it's only natural to create your own impression of set country or said culture through the lens of that person. And I can see how he came to the conclusion. I will have to disagree because. As much as. As Japanese people may not want to have such large public persona because that creates disharmony, which is a huge cultural aspect that jeopardy society really does encourage are enforced, but that's a whole other thing. It's very difficult or. I wouldn't say difficult. It's not encouraged to. Stand out too much. I do have to agree there within Japanese culture. I forgot there was a Japanese proverb that. Something goes along the lines of. The Hammer strikes on the nail that sticks out or something like that. It's all to do of conformity and I'm sure that we have an English equivalent there. But the thing is when it comes to podcasting. When you look at the different generations of people who are online creating content there are more and more podcasters in Japan. Granted a lot of the broadcast based like they're they're made by broadcast companies, but we are getting more and more independent podcasters. There is one. Popular podcast in Japan who is not Japanese he's he's actually American but he set the standard for independent podcasting in Japan and he went up to like eight thousand years month in revenue or something like that, which is insane like barely unheard of in Japan but he had died down because he was a lot of stress on his work. But. Examples these set the standard for other independent Japanese content creators. To start their own shows and we have so many Japanese youtubers, Japanese bloggers, Japanese writers day take two forms one, they used their actual online persona as directional full face and name and everything, and they create things that may not cause too much disarming and two. They have an alternative persona and online persona a nickname or something like that, and they can go beyond they can create the weird and all of in terms of podcasting Joe. SEWRI? The Sudanese adminis- is at the word they sable yet. Yeah, I'm. Pretty sure. That's the word words. Are It's about creating some level of distance is from their family or their employer or this social circle is at all of those things. It's all of those things combined into one echo in Japan you have. You have the concept and salt in what that means is. The circles, the inner circles and the outer circles, and this is to do with. Traversing the border between both entities and making sure that you have impression. It doesn't really insult threaten or disrupt the harmony between the them examples Gucci can mean. Might me and my family I can have my inner thoughts and concerto with my family because I'm close to them. But how I perceived outside to society in public could be completely different or I play it safe. Yeah, this is good stuff. I'm super fascinated with particularly Japan because of always wanted to spend a lot of time so. We could probably go right down that particular avenue they about. So we're talking about. A really prominent and. I welled sort of wealthy country. I well may be an inappropriate term but let's say Japan for a long time was almost viewed by a lot of the Western world as being the future. And talk and let's go maybe to. Let's just say their countries that aunt Japan so. One thing I've always thought about Japan was a load of the podcast is that get talked to in the wealthier? I should countries. experts. From English. Speaking Countries whereas you've made the like what I love most about puddles angel is the fact that these on. For the most part that I listened to. Anyway, I have to admit Norman you back conversation was coming up ahead to. Basically. Someone from India someone from Malaysia someone from Thailand just pick one and one and one and. If you were the papal ended up being experts. But. I'm assuming that places like Nepal. They mostly shows that a happening ind- they are in language. then. Not Just expat people from English speaking countries that happened to be based there that making shows. Yeah, it's mostly in their languages my minimum victory trying to contact a few Nepalese podcasters who are. Doing de shows into languages. It's for something very culturally specific whatever the issue may be. And not only Nepali could be in India as well because there's a huge market there how many different languages and so many different podcast networks. But yes, a lot of these shows are localized. They focused very firstly on the language itself and second of all day focused on things that are only relevant to the listeners around them and their definition of a show or a successful show is. What can talk about that fits the people around me in what language and then it goes like their. Expert. Thing has always been a personal thing for me. To look on your face, you're lucky on which a token about a he. So. Not. Having. Stories as scholley has more people in that area the not just. And I think it's for a lot of people, Jackson and lock. That's going to be easier because are not going to be fluent to start with an probably GonNa have quit moment and an understanding of bandwidth and Wifi and all these things because. They podcast is to come from. The US or Straw wherever and they they by somewhere else It's not going to be an extra complication. Of language barriers or anything. So to me, it's just licey. But gets a that's what I love your show I didn't know what else GonNa get into going but let me ask you this about languages before we finish up noam. If you. Wanted to say. Just to a shop at Japan and it wasn't pod loves Asia it was pulled lavish Japan. Would you have chosen? Do you think to do that in? Japanese or would you have done that in English still Because obviously as we went back to you going with English because you're speaking with table throughout the hall of Asia and English is just the technology to communicate. You. Said you were fluent in Japanese earlier off that might recording but I think it did. Would you do a show about Japan Justin Japanese? Yeah Japan is the example what would you do that English does Sure so Polymers Asia itself is meant to put you or give you a lens into Asia's podcasting market. So if I were to make of Japan. My immediate. Resident. would be Japanese listeners I would have to put in Japanese. What I will do though is that either in the show notes or anything beyond that would be translated into English for those two are that curious that they would go all the way to translate and actually. Bothered to listen to a show in the foreign language Have you actually have you thought about doing some of these interviews? In Non English languages. And it might having interview with the same person in English if they're bilingual. Okay that's interesting. and. We've been talking more than an hour and I feel like I'm getting to know him better NASA. Have you have you thought about doing interviews with the same person. I've thought about a compromise between the actually 'cause if I do a bilingual two part episode where it's The. Same person one in English and one in Japanese the question there is, who is it? Who is it serving? Because? Are you going to do a repeat of part one which is in English and Japanese? Just, so that Japanese get access to it or are you only serving bilingual listeners? So that's that's a little bit to. A little bit too narrow of in in my point of view what I would do instead. Would be. Would Have A. A Japanese interview but an English episode. So excerpts of the Japanese conversation and then inbetween translate overtime. Pretty cool. But. The way that I would record, it would be a third person who's actually interpreter. I I won't be able to do my level of interviewing or articulating that well in Japanese. Because I didn't really study podcasting Japanese in Tokyo. Obviously, it's not just about being speak the language. It's being able to host a program in that language then. One's a language technology and the other one is a skill. Building yet within the platform of the content itself. So that makes complete sense. That's an wide better idea. So you would basically be having the conversation via the interpreter in this case Japanese in May be cutting to an English. Only, explanation just featuring yourself as the little monologue to explain. What just happened Your? Yeah in addition to that, it will probably be there will be a bonus episode for those who are. Japanese listeners. Who Want to listen to the full thing? I would have that as a bonus in addition to the show. I mean unless we're sticking to Japan and obviously you'll be some episode. But if we're talking about policy Asia and I WanNa, do a bonus where it's done a different language domain episode would be a translated interpretation or prospective of the compensation and bonus episode would be the whole thing in Japanese and I'll try to do my best to limit the editing. And that way those who do want to listen to the full compensation can get more of the nuances because they can better understand it more than. Say My efforts in trying to transpose that to an English speaking audience. That's brilliant. So just one last quick one normally you've got Tom. The has there been anything. Coming up in season three with any of the guests that you spoke into. that. was entirely unique. Or does anything pop to mind it was really unique about The people you're speaking to you that that thing speaking of. Our only happened because they from that country. All they speak that particular language does any because I'm assuming you said you've got serious story coming in that vein produced. You've done those interviews or jumping the gun they're a little bit. It's in the middle of outreach at the moment but I had some. Yeah. I've had some. Conversations to prep for a few episodes and some interesting observations include. Data that you can only get if you're there. So a lot of focus group discussions particularly in the Philippines. I'm seeing a few. A few different perspectives on a market that never would have thought of because I started reaching out to. Other writers or bloggers who are also interested in the podcasting market and doing in their own way like I'm doing mind through a podcast doing it via their own articles are reports, etc. So it's nice to see that we have agreements and disagreements. So when I'm reaching out to them. I, always point up what I don't agree with. and that sets the spark for compensation but yeah, probably the most interesting thing would be. When I was contacting them. It was about what they've done the data behind it and we're GONNA talk about the results on the show Oh actually that just gave me a thought. I had one episode that. I could not release season two. Let's do and I wanNA hear I. Wish I'd probably. Listen I want WanNa hear this I wish I could I really wanted to publish it so so much and It's it's aggravating that I have the I don't even have the recording because I wasn't allowed to record. It turned into just a normal chat because I was actually denied. The ability to record it. So not not the name, a company because I I'm not sure how bad it will be but. This was in an East Asian country. With. Probably the most interesting statistics on listenership rates ranking top three in the world. And there's only one international podcasting company that has tapped into this country. This is a country that has been podcasting since two thousand and five and even know that. So that's like a year after the first podcast was created for early. Yeah, there's a full on and. Due to some. Shall I say legal reasons? So Yeah I. Guess I can say that that's a pretty safeway but due to some legalities. We had to protect the conversation. It was out of my control. It wasn't anything to do my show or anything. It's just that it was really bad timing on their end when I wanted to talk do. Do the compensation. So I was unable to record it because it could have been liable for something greater. So. So. It just turned into a conversation where I was just talking with the team then. That that talk Tony to a one hour masterclass on what is happening in that country from the company's being involved to how do people listen to podcasts? What are the different shows? What are the different business practices and and an overview of foreign companies trying to tap into the market? It is the most mind conversation I've ever had into very very long time and I can't release it like how would you be if you had an amazing show like an amazing footage that you just could not really it's it's annoying and I really wanted to make an article or something like that out of it, but then I just be. Not Not to be crass anything, but you just be placed on my ass fight. Vomiting all of this info out. And not have a source for it. It's really annoying but anyway, yeah, I want to for season three I want to relive that conversation again I really want to restart that because I think they're in a better place now or they are more available to have the conversation and yeah I'll let you know when which one I'm talking about once. Good. Will hopefully we can talk about that in the future when you get that done. 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2943: #MeToo w/ Marcia Belsky

Keith and the Girl Comedy Talk Show

1:09:59 hr | 2 years ago

2943: #MeToo w/ Marcia Belsky

"Hey. Welcome to Keith and the girl I'm Keith Malley ladies and gentlemen. Today's guest amazing comic and I'll say, Justice warrior, Marsha Belsky. Marsha, you look very adequate today. What can you say. Mean minefield out there. We're going to talk about the some big subjects today. I let me mention this, make sure your subscribe to our YouTube channel. Oh yeah. This silent trailers game that we've been playing is so fun. And honestly, I'm getting way too nervous playing see you getting nerve. Now. I take it very seriously because and that that makes the guested seriously because it's like they wanna take it away from you, right? If because people are uncomfortable with your happiness, I have to win in generally as or it's not exciting when the guest was right, we should start putting money on it like come to the even the girl show and how much are you going to bet for the after show? I'm reading some of your comments, sugar hits rates in regards to Andrew Allen's recent episode. It's only been fifteen seconds in it's already genius. All bow down to Henrik and of course puts together Paulo pheromone roads about Rojo's episode best one of these so far. While he cheated anyway, Christie cello show Christian Reese rates LL Christie is even better on video. She so animated. Christie Chela. Right, right. My first friends in New York. Hey, let me mention this right away. Happy, Yom Kippur or or sorry, keep young s. thank you. Sorry that I'm not in synagogue. I I never go, but I always just lied to my dad about going to lie to your dad about how did I think usually make a game call like all kind of balance out with like Passover in Russia, Shana. So I'll give a one out of three or two out of like, he's like, are you keeping Passover? And I'm like, absolutely. Yes, I am then. But then the next question about a holiday will be. No. So you like me on us. Let me like on didn't didn't make it this time. You know what's funny is I'm sure that her dad's like, let's play this game again. Next year. I think it's a good deed. Like I feel like I served my time. Do. I had to go to Hebrew school three times a week until I was in seventh grade. And then I had to go once a week until I graduated high school. So like my, I had a bomb, it's I was also confirmed I have to doing of time firmed in non-jew terms? No, like they. We had like a confirmation class when we were like seventeen. I think for them to basically be like, you have to stay in Hebrew school for the last year of high school. And I was like, I don't have a choice. So now you're just giving me extra work, went to Hebrew school was such a joke to me. I went to Sheva. So half my day was Jewish curriculum just like Hebrew class. And then the other half was the American curriculum that we had to pass. What a waste of fucking time. Do you know how much should I have in my brain that when I can't remember when somebody sees my Jew face and goes, oh, it's a holiday today, and I didn't even know it like real, unlike all it left, that means there's room for more. I still remember half my half Torah. I, I learned how to not only Hebrew. Learned how to read biblical Hebrew in that and define it. I learned how to read this guy Rashi interpretation and he created half new language. I learned that I learn any language. It was biblical Hebrew, right? And so he takes his fucking interpretation and I have to learn a new way to read Hebrew. Thanks to him. Then did you know that in the Torah. The chillers specific by the way tropes learned all that shit. I remember that was able to sight read it. It's kind of cool. That's the one part that I actually liked is that like in Hebrew, there is, will they have their own way of writing music? So it's like interesting to look at when I like learned all this stuff. And I just imagine like cave people in Israel putting little dots on their words and like that means all that's kind of cool when somebody says to you, hey, look at your face. It's Jewish ju- phase Gavin happens a lot. Well, you said right? Does it. Yeah. I mean, even even when I say no, I'm not practicing. I'm an atheist now. They argue with me, no, no look at you. You're doing forever because people really like Jews like want to like it's like enough Nestle and a religion, but then it's like American Jews are so like at this point, like you know, a quarter Jewish or whatever, like a meat, it's me going. I don't like bagels who doesn't like vehicle. Yeah, they're like, no, you. One of us we accept you. One of us is a because they're thinking it's not so crazy. There could be another holocaust Dulcie you're not one of us. I mean, yes, sure. Every response could be from fear and I could fucking pay for that forever. But if you're scared of the next holocaust world dead, it will pull the holocaust car quick like they'll be like, remember. I mean, it's love your culture. Yeah, I can't just be like, oh, I gotta make sure on those trains next time. One, I think the Jews are going to be split half and half in the race work because there's so many Jews like helping Trump and like, you know, it's going to be. It's gonna be tricky, dividing this time. Good luck. They're gonna have to the left await you work for. Okay. Kushner's to write a fuck lake. So by eyebrow thickness. Oh, shit. Maybe this is better, right? So that's confusing. Yeah. Yeah. We're throwing him off that was our whole plan and assimilating to be white with you. When I talked to my parents about, you know, if I go to church, oh, I didn't know this. Sunday may be believe I'm going on. It is weird that when it comes to the commandments, one is thou shall not live in the same group is honor. They father. Rock paper, scissors effect commandments, right? Is I fully believe that making my dad happy is more important than because if lying, if God takes lying really seriously, it's for as well. It's like he's a narc and it's like whatever. And then also like everybody lies. And if anybody tells you that they don't lie there serial killer. So I, I don't feel bad. That's hashtag fats. Yeah. I mean, I don't like I don't try and like tell big lies. But if it's like a lie for somebody else's comfort, I find that to be a good deed like, you know what I mean? When you're like in a conversation and somebody says something and you're just like just lie just linex short. How do you like my haircut? I'm like, well, I know you bathroom two hours or even like the social contract. Like I was fifteen minutes late because the train your bosses like shirt. I try not to ask people what they think of a change that I did to myself because what are they going to say? I'm I'm basically going here. Put I put all this effort. I can't really undo it at this moment. You like I asked to get the s. and then when one of my friends is like, well, I'm like, you know, I ask that question. Do what you're supposed to do? Yeah. Me, joking, bullies Fano Reza comfort me. I know it's bad. You show me a me my already seeing, right. I've never seen it gets hurt. I think a haircut looks good. I don't ask my friend, not a hair. I haven't gotten a haircut in six years, like I'm a mess your own here. I come my own here. Yeah, I think early here could do that. And like I, I really like find sitting in a hair shop like so like awkward. I'm like really bad at small dogs. I'm like, so like when it's quiet, I also feel kind of weird. Like I get stressed out by too because some of them want to talk to you don't just like, yeah, yeah, I read them and like sometimes it's friendly and you get into a good banter, just kind of run out of things to say, and you have like a half hour laugh because I have a lot of hair, but also I, I'm just like, what? What? If you're at work and I don't interrupt you have my hair and says in your hand. Yeah, like I'll be. I'll be quiet. Yeah, I knew. This one girl we put her headphones, and I was like, well, that seems intense like used to do that when I was waxing. But then she started talking to me and it was awkward to keep taking out that. Yeah, I guess we're talking now, but I'm in my underwear. What's up. We have the performer for the Super Bowl halftime. Show the great maroon five at is it almost an insult to be asked because it's like, hey, you'll vanilla this up for us, right, right. My Adam, Adam, nobody living. Yeah, I always get Kim confused without him. Divine from house farting work all but Adam LeVine. The funniest thing he's ever done to me and this may be fucked up. But he did these commercials that were like really serious where he like walks onto a block screenings. Like I have ADD like just like million suffer from eighty Engstrom it's drew, but it was just like really funny because I was just like says areas, intense boring things bore me. Good luck with your. He performed recently or has hits anyway with a Cardi b. and Kendrick, Lamar. So he's dies, some guesses that could be some guesses on who else will be. Definitely Cardi b.'s come into the Super Bowl. She was like, they're like, can we book you? And she was like, I don't wanna do that kind of work like I don't need to because they don't even super bowl's like a bad gig from what I've heard of everybody's, I feel like they like tried to give it to Kardashian. She was like, I'm better than that. And then they're like, Adam LeVine, can you got are probably when they booked out them, they're like, you know, this happens in comedy. Sometimes they're like, can you get? Can you get Cardi? And he's like, yeah. Right, right. And I'm like, you like, can't. Stand, you're not. They're not paid per se course food and anything like that and travel in a place to stay and will be paid. And by the way they never count Prodi's. When you get paid per diem, you're like beyond Purdue could be a million dollar shore and we're like rehearsal and everything. Yeah, then the exposures, what's worth it? Yes. Maroon five really needs to step up exposure. Again, his name is maroon five name for good. Head. Atta maroon five LeVine. We put up this poll by the way. I thought this was interesting with a new guest, John Murray, and he let slip out that he what we asked them, but still I say, slip out 'cause I would allied being on a show that he's never heard keeping the girl. And I said, what did your publicist Sadie and because this is the one that both him. Right. You said the that you Keith are the bad cop, good cop. Yeah, and they'll be nice in, you'll be me. That's true. And I'm like. So we made that the poll on the floors and we said, who is the good cop heat him. Forty, four percents, Keith as the good cop, six percent. It's rag and you're both last week this, I'll tell you something. I voted that I am. Indeed. The men were like hemmed is pretty harsh on the men, so bad cop. And I see that because if a guest say something stupid or flat out lies can the catches it makes them explain the words. I say, I hear what you're saying. And get you to talk more plus your pushover. I get you to talk more like for example, you're talking about Terry, right? Because you're like, yeah, like interrogation. I'll go, hey, listen, can get rolled up, meet the metoo movement. It has its negatives. Right. Go ahead. That's good. Copy. Hate definitely both going to rest. You want. Yeah. Well, you though. But there is there's someone on the forums who made a good point that I must be the bad cop because I'm always the devil's advocate. And so that's a pretty shitty position to be the devil's lawyer. Although I think all cops are bad. So. It's bad cutback I'd like to think that I do that less like advocate, what? What about this? But I think I don't and I'm doing it now. Those two are so. And this going to play good cop latte, bad cop by myself. I'm just like, are you being good? I don't know because you could have been better. There's only one year younger than me, but I keep thinking like when you're my age, shin. Make excuse that because you're taller. And I think you keep thinking, I'm going to reach your. That's the only thing you could be waiting for all. Yeah, we right. What can the literally grows up. Maybe understand. I keep eating vegetables. I mean, you have Sean Penn. He's on the today show and he's proud. Astronauts show on Hulu and he's there with his female co host, and she's ready to eat her own face when he's explained that the metoo movement was put together to separate men from women. Never mind his past raisin looking so peachy punch Madonna or something. God, Sean Penn is the most boring person in the world to me. Like I feel like if I were like sat next to Sean Penn on somewhere, I would walk away like I, he is, I don't know like it really until to him. Now they keep the keep asking him like they keep asking these actors like what they think, and they know the click, bait that's gonna result. So they like it some ways. It's good because it just like exposes these guys, but also has all of these guys say this shit. It begins like people forget like, oh, was Sean Penn, the piece of shit or was it this other guy like so many dudes. It's like the apologies like there are so many apologies that like people forget half the dudes that were accused in the metoo like moment, resurgence like so, yeah, like they keep asking these actors keeps saying stupid shit, and then it's just like, you know what? Let these old men just like go away like. Please stop ask because it validates their opinion in a way where it's like these are the two sides. The one side is it's the vice. The other side is don't assault people like it's like those aren't the two sides. It's a straw man headline. It's like, what do when people understand how stupid you sound? When you say, were you meet tude? Was this person to, you know, I rose joke like that. I've heard it like walking will be like, get me to browse like at a bar. And then I killed him with my eyes. Good, good. Very proud of the show that we did with Andrea Allan. Louis c. k. returns was the title welcome, and I mentioned, love him right of ham, and I love love love. I mentioned how silly it is to to act like hope. This metoo movement goes away. The words will go away because their words, the metoo has tug will go away because things go way. But what what is it? It's women saying, hey, this is happening to me. This isn't. This isn't a contained thing that's going to last month's two years. This will last forever. That's like if they say, when will the cop movement leave? And it's like, but you're gonna if you keep robbing. What's the way on land? Yeah. I mean, I think with specifically metoo and sexual assault. Something I've been thinking about a lot is that I'm surprised every day I wake up like just furious, but like this is kind of how it goes with like rape jokes and stuff to which I've never said. Don't tell you a rape joke, but if it bombs be like, that's your fault. You know, but people people can acknowledge that men rape. They can even joke about it and they know that that happens, but they don't want to acknowledge that women get raped so they can acknowledge the first thing, but not the second and the metoo movement is about you need to acknowledge the second thing since we know the first thing is true and men don't want that to happen. They want those things to say to stay separate. That's similar to. I think I've recently said, you know, hey, when I go to, let's say someone's hotel room or go back to someone's place I get met with, well, what do you think is going to happen? Don't you know that all these guys are rapists from from from men? Yeah. And from women like men are trash. They're like, evolve ledge. I'm like, oh, men are raping. Oh, again with another woman. Will you just warned me that I would. I will be raped, but I who gets the power to define who gets a second chance who gets to fail like an, it's an fail in the biggest way that you ruin somebody's life or like a reparable harm them. Like, that's what's frustrating to because it's also like these same guys who think that like it might be okay. What cavenaugh did like if a black guy rape somebody, it's like, well, he deserves to be imprisoned for life. No questions asked and it's like, but you know that those are the same things like, but you think that one person deserves no consequences and you think the other person deserves the harshest consequence would no middle ground or even acknowledgement of that. Like the whole thing is so fucked because there's so many levels to it. I think the biggest things knowledge went, like you say, it's not that the rape will ruin my life. It's the cover up and the, you know, because I can get over you robbing me of this. This? Yeah, because I can get over somebody, you know, thieving my house or, you know, this is a thing that is a terrible traumatic time in your life, but you can get over deaths. You can get over rape. You can get over a robbery, but to go, no, you weren't robbed or no, you weren't ill, never to get over it like, 'cause it's ended allows you to have to lie. You are forced to lie for the rest of your life. Because anytime this comes up, you have to tell a different story or you have to be met with all the backlash of your story. So that's that's what the metoo movement I think is about. It's about, like you said going this, this happens to me. That's it. That's it. It's not even we didn't even get to reparations. Yeah, that's what's exhausting though to for me is like just men on all scales of things just like being like oak. I've just been made aware of the problem. Let's figure it out. And it's like, that's been so exhausting about this last year is just like all these dudes who for years, like I've been telling like, because they don't wanna see like that. Like, you know, privilege essentially works as like a Vail. It's been called like, and so it's like, you can't see in, but the people can see out. So the people seeing out are telling you, this is what I see, and the people who can't see in our like does not true. I live in this world to, I don't see it, especially people who think of themselves as very smart, like they're like, I don't see it so like how could it be there? And then now it's like you have this one day, this resurgence where every single woman in your life as posting online. This is what's happened to me or talking you in person. This is what's happened to me now that you bring it up and it took literally all of us speaking all at once for men to go. Okay. I guess I can't deny it. I, I can't deny that that is an everyday thing, you know? Because even if they don't want to deny it, they do. I think we all do in a way. Because we just exist who we are. So when other people tell us about their problems, we're like, okay, okay. Yes, I believe, you know like, so even when they believe you sometimes it's like, now we're in this process of teaching you like what you need to do is listen. What you need to do is actually cut out your creepy friend. What you need to do is you know these small things, and then you have this whole other level of dudes who are just don't want to lose the privilege of men being able to harasser Saul, and they're just like. Like they're the ones like. So there's like different factions of like reactions on like the male side, of course, love marshes, Twitter account, and it's under her name Marsha Belsky, and she, she does a slow back and forth. The guy says, not all men, and she goes your friend day. Why are you? The one thing we're looking at them that's always like at some dude is just being like not all man. You're like, oh, I was actually just talking about your friend, Dave, that's that's why I brought it up. You know, and it's like who's saying all men except for men. Because like when all tweets, something about men like I don't understand why they can't hear or see the implied some as opposed to all because I didn't say I did Joe kill all men as like a baby photo of me with a little speech bubble and like people got some people got upset about that. But ninety percent people under so that it was whole Larry. But when you can get upset at Marshall tweeting a little baby, sing kill all men, not out of nowhere that upset you more than having somebody on the supreme court. That perhaps sexually assaulted a woman, but it does like, yeah, that doesn't cause also, it's funny watching some of these old men panic because it really if you look at any age movie like any John, like they're all super AP. It was just accepted like, and like I said, they didn't see the female victims as the problem. They just said, oh, this is what boys do like the female victims weren't even in the equation. So now these older men are going, oh, my God, like me in every single of ever had had something that could be considered a psalter rape is that gonna ruin my life. We can't have that like they, you know, they essentially thought they get away with it because every single thing in their life told them that they would, but they've always been men who didn't rape does it does it also bothers? It bothers me that the guys that do say like. Oh, okay. This was just brought to my attention. First of all, you know, slow down. You just brought it to my attention that point that you made, but also. Okay. So that's something to think about. Whereas I think the guys new and I talked about in my latest album, but the date when they walk down the street and they yell at you to smile or say, hey, pretty pretty, it's not when they're walking with their mothers. It's as I've been catcalled by men with their kids with their kids different. That's the thing to they're like, dentistry, mom, the I've seen men cat call with the women with women. It's actually that's like the worst because you're just like I wanna grab her and be like, do you wanna stay at my place like you. Male employees end his life. What does the woman do literally? Does she have her smile? I mean, that's the thing too is like there are different things like where it's like it's it's not a compliment and also it has it can have to do with power dynamic. So that's like a nuance thing to where it's like sometimes men who feel like they don't have power can kind of like, you know, reach out different ways like that can be fucked up. So like I think like it's, yeah, it's hard because like some guys new, but the problem is, is that you know badmin- no, and they, they know how much they have to lose like if and then there's people in the middle who don't realize they do some bad because every guy does it, how can it be bad? And then there are good guys who think will I would never do that. There's no chance at all. These other men that I'm friends with are. So that's like to me like the three camps. That's all be dividing the prisons. Is bad, bad, decent, bad and good, but unaware. Funny, I do remember my dad was a big flirt, and it never bothered my mom and I always, but I took it as a positive thing like, oh, you could like he doesn't mean it. You know what I mean? And and then I don't know. I can't tell looking back. Did he need to do that? You know what I mean? And then also looking back, it's hard for me to look back because memory can I possibly retain this and I wasn't around him all the time, but he would flirt with women as a way of talking. I think once I started talking to men, I only flirted with them kind of really get the information or get get, and I had to. I had to slowly take that away from the way that I speak because I thought this isn't a big deal. This is just the way to hold a tent like they won't be even listening if I don't add a little bit of this, so true. Yeah, it's true. And it's it's hard to know the nuance of like, what's okay. What's kind of fine versus like what really is kinda like something deeper. It's like in my family. It's like, you know, figure it with practice, not that confusing because it is. It is at first because you're just like, I'm not going to get what I want. If I don't put this on this and it's true, it's absolutely true. There are certain guys if I have a meeting with them, if I don't turn it on. A little bit. I'm not going to get what I want, but there's another guy that I can and just talk normally with that person. So I am taking some things out of my business because of it, but I have to be okay with it. Yeah. Like it's like those little dynamics. Sometimes you'll think about me, like, is this up and then it's like, might do like I would. He would always like comment on like women or something. And then it was like my mom and my aunt would kinda comment on men too. So I was like, okay, I think it's fine. And then eventually I was like, I don't really wanna hear what your type I don't really want to think about. My parents would both comment on women, and it would be we'd be watching the news and they would be like, who at this bitch on TV I know we'll do that two of them. My mom, Slade says, women on it and people lose their minds because they're adding so many female announcers, they say, horrific, like Riddick things. Yeah. The as if it's get right as Avs of these women are really flooding your football. Anyway, there is not one pro football female announcer by when there's like there's no one there on. No, they'll be on the field will allow you to say on the field calm down. I want to see on the foul navy in the studio. Why they do that. My mom actually told me this alike male athletes when they would give interviews on the field. It's so loud. You have to lean in really close to the microphone and they weren't leaning in close enough when it was a man interviewing them. So with the woman interviewing them, they're willing to lean in close. And that's why. Oh, yeah. They do. Oh, anytime they have, they're, they're like, there's a reason that serves us place. We're not doing this for the goodness of you, but they're adding more like they are adding more like anchor women on ESPN. There does seem to be like a real effort, but it's always like, you know, when we get twenty percent of something, they're like, that's good enough off, right? They're already overwhelmed. Yeah, we'll, we'll let you comment on the game football today. Part four. In the booth during the live action and be able to handle it. Do you remember love the world they were? Are they called announcers, they were in a studio, and there was one woman amongst them and and it's the same Bantu full conflict bent or any way. Can you just be glad someone could talk about this shit? I mean, really so, and there was this guy and they made mention, I forget who started. They made mention that he doesn't look at the female and he's like, that's right. I don't because I'm gonna get in trouble with my wife. I don't even know how to the my in Pence. Yeah, look at you. And now it's like, wow, you really genuinely believe that an you believe that you're doing the good guy thing you believe that not looking at this woman will keep you safe from what your cell like, how I've never had to learn to control their Dicks because they've never had to. So they're just like, but like if I see you Matt dick get hard. If my dick gets hard macbrayne Dongguan, no control them alive, skunk it, man. It's like, okay. Well, that's sad. You're an adult. I'm gonna blame on his wife like as long as I don't look at you, I don't get in trouble with. Wife, not as long as I don't look at you. I can control this demon. That's inside of me that I really now that I think about it think I need help force. Can't look at another human being without getting in trouble. Agitating do that. Like every every time a woman comes around, he's like. Baby blinders on t worry. I remember this was a couple of years ago, but a man wrote me in an Email complaining. When I said I was complaining. It's interesting. There's no women calling the shots saying what's happening on the field in the actual booth during a game. The guy rates me like, you idiot this. This woman did it. And I'm like, why do I know that's not true? But I looked at op and she was hired for college game and immediately got fired. And it's like one woman. Okay, cool. Sorry, I didn't know. I should've looked like you're like, yeah, that's like saying, like if a woman like snuck into the army before they were allowed, it's like there are no. Well, actually, maybe that's like a racer too because sometimes there are no female soldiers before this point. It's like, no, they just disguise themselves Twelfth Night style. Do you remember what happened to the first female? Marathon runner? Yes. She got followed by those like pathetic dudes like she got pushed to the guy who has been she. I guess she snuck in 'cause she wasn't allowed because females shouldn't be running, I guess, for that amount. How'd you get away with your with your feet binded? So so he met her in the middle of heat, and I think he was in a truck or something came out of it and tried to push her out physically this video of it because there were people following her video because the big deal with like, no, he fully justified, pushes her while she's running. She's still made it in and I still had good time there. So, I mean, that's the thing. I'm just going to look this way. He gave her break. Yeah, it seriously is like it's, it's sad when you look back because it's so depressing. And it's just like every little thing. It's like. There's always a copy up, but also that's why it's funny because it's like as we do like slowly climb up and like dude, just feel so threatening. You hear this like, well, I guess you can't get booked unless you're like not straight white guy anymore. It's honestly the straightway I know who are funny like, do fine and the street white guys, I know who are talented like will always do find because they have mentors and people. You know, like it's like some like we can help each other out like they see it as such a threat when like, well, if I have to try hard, not to book your kind you doing all right, or doing five to be superman. Fuck. We'd like five white guys on this week. I got a mindfully think of somebody else and it's it's not my, I think it's because this whole like they'll be like just a lot of like even like all here, straight white guys are like, it's like white people being like white people to try to detach themselves from like, but so it's like they do that. Two or it's like now it's become such a thing to be like a straight white men and it's like nobody I know who actually cares about this stuff feels that way because it's the system of straight white men. It's the individual dudes. You don't like you're not like, you know what I mean, like your. It's not just like sometimes people just like go off on somebody like, and you're like, you're not helping things like he's like, I don't know. So that's like I don't book them any strike is on my show just because that's how it's happened. And like I booked people who like I wanna help out and like sometimes that's a straight white dude. Sometimes it's not and like people who like talk shit like, and you're just like, there's like one show. We book women and gay men and gay women and like everybody who's not like an like by non binary. Like it's like the deal. You say the word like a lot because you hate everything and you're trying. I don't even think about it when I say like anymore. It's bad, but it's how I it's like just say, you're bringing up a Cavanaugh brick Cav enough faces allegations that he sexually assaulted a girl when both were teens more than three decades ago. It's impossible to miss the parallels between the Cavanaugh and Thomas confirmation says Anita hill. You remember her, of course sixty two. Now famously accused Thomas Clarence Thomas of picking up a soda when she picked up a soda can ask who put this pubic hair on the coke. You demo- v it's the HBO movie confirmation VC net eight. So mazing I was pacing anger. It only came out twenty five years too late for the public. Understand what happened. So you know, let's give because he didn't just do the cocaine thing. It's like a very familiar situation where it's like he wants guys get obsessed and he he wanted to date her. And when you don't give even like a slightly flirty like if you don't give the attention back, there's a disrupted entitlement there. And that's. So I think the he did to her is like he was like, how dare this beautiful woman? I'm attracted to not exist for my sole purpose and do like freak out like that is a great, great phrase, disrupted entitlement. I think that makes so much. Disrupt. Oh, you see it on street tastes mile and you just you didn't say anything. You simply didn't give the man what he wanted. All of a sudden, what's the word that's well or yet case bitch, worst-case murdered. Right? Somebody made this point. Do you know? You know, if you're a, you have these male comic saying, women, you know. Next call right. You know, I had this crazy woman, my life bubble, blah, this crazy chick bubble, blah. You don't hear the women saying about crazy guys because they're dead. Funny. Like a murder joke. It's like, oh, we can't tell rape jokes. You can tell murder jobs. You can tell rape jokes, you just have to. I was talking about like simil- has this joke that I thought was so funny, I forgive it was, but it was like about like rubies and stuff, and I was like, see, that's the thing. It's like it doesn't matter who you are. Like if you tell a joke, that's funny and that the punchline isn't like, 'cause fuck women raped them. The nobody gives a shit like. Nita hill said today, the public expects better from our government than we got in nineteen ninety one when our representatives performed in ways that gave employer's permission the mishandle workplace harassment complaints throughout the following decades that the Senate Judiciary committee still lacks a protocol for vetting sexual harassment and assault claims that surfaced during a confirmation hearing suggests that the committee has learned little from the Thomas haring much less the more recent metoo movement. Well, people keep saying that that they haven't learned, but why would they have learned? They got what they wanted? Why would what? What would have taught them the lesson they have changed their tactics at all because why would they they won absolutely fix what's broken to them. They're like, well, it worked the first time. Let's see if it works again. They don't care if you hear your husband say, why is this woman professor for going after Cavanaugh years later for attention. You are you legally allowed the fuck your husband's friends. In my opinion yet right up to call me on the signal that I give all women to reach me so I can come in for attention. She had to move out of her house because death threats or Email hack, we'll win. Is there ever been attention that paid off for the woman? Maybe maybe they're confused by the attention that they're getting like suddenly they're interviews. Have you know interviews suddenly they are being interviewed? Suddenly? There's an actual question the interview also, I think I think they know it's bullshit, but I think I think they say shit and try and set the terms of debate, but they know it's bullshit. So they say she wants a tension so that people talk about that instead of like, I think that glove isn't sometimes. Yeah. I mean, I think they're evil, so it's like some Republicans are smart and evil, and then there's don't. I saw Roseanne Barr on the doctor ause interview, which by the way guys a medical doctor, right? Not to bring. Yeah, it was the start of his ten season as close pairing. What is he usually interview only talks about the how to keep your asshole clean. Right? Isn't he an accused Perv he's he's got a terrible reputation of being a charlatan charlatan like he sells fake products. That kind of thing I didn't. I don't know about Schill a Schill if you will. Yeah, Charlotte into old. I like Charlotte now. Perfect. So she was on and the, you know the talking about her. Why is she gonna apologize? She going to defend the tweet which I was saying the other day. It was a one tweet Roseanne put out in ABC's to lose millions and millions of dollars, right? It's a, it's a history of racism. It's a history of ridiculous political notions. But the the tweet specifically was Moselm brotherhood plus planet of the apes equals Fiji, Valerie, Gerald. Black woman. And obviously to me, she's calling the this black woman a monkey. So sh- show Roseanne's on this show Dr ause saying, first of all, I didn't even though she was pats hair claim. Now she she had this full mount on some other things like bedrose. Like keep saying that while on ause she says, I thought she was Iranian. First of all, I'm talking about the Iran deal in the how, how it's going to ruin Israel and how it's anti Jewish pizza. That might have been the first part of her tweet because the first part was, yeah, brother play the apes and play the. She says, the stuff focusing on the word apes. She's talking about the movie having to do with uprising against your oppressors. So when you can't explain anything to me and your job is getting words perfectly, I call bullshit. But let's go back to her saying, she believed this woman. Valerie was Iranian. Okay, lot long ago at all on her personal YouTube channel. She says, she thought Valerie was white. Trying to talk about. I'm trying to talk about back the. The you've told me this three hundred times. You know that a my tweet about a, no, you've explained. This was. The bridge was why. Everybody's laughing, but that's the clip that I was talking about. I got it wrong, but she's not. She's not laughing to be. No, she's, I mean, she's like mentally called and asked me to explain my egregious and unforgivable tweet. She puts them. I thought, Valerie Jarrett was white about forty minutes after that. My show was cancelled before. Even one advertiser pulled out, and I was labeled a racist. Why you ask? Well, the answer simple, it's because I voted for Donald Trump and that is not allowed in Hollywood. They already knew you voted for Donald Trump. They already knew in the reboot of Roseanne. Roseanne was going to be a Trump supporter. So many people in Hollywood voted for like that. What's so annoying? Like onions, anything, cans, nanna land. It's like it literally is so many rich people voted for Trump like in Hollywood. And then she brings up the Ambien. I took an Ambien and I've talked to people and people people have made breakfast in full turkeys, eight it. You know, the story. Like I heard a friend of a friend that made a full Turkey, so that's about four hours eight and woke up the chicken bones on the wall. So why are you bringing up that you on Ambien? When you said this tweet, if you just explained how the tweet wasn't evil, you just explain your tweet was misrepresented. What does that have the do with fewer high on cocaine? You're standing by the right way. You meant the tweet, who cares what you were on them was advocate. No, it's it's. It's too much. There is no devil's advocate anymore because I can't care this much about someone else's mishap. That's what it comes down to even if this is an doodle and and and even if you have a series of doodles, I can't care this much because because I would have been fired from a job and I would have been like, all right. And I'm not rich and I don't wanna be like, oh, you're richer, fine. But you stand, you stand behind a lot of this, but I'm supposed to get your back when you don't stand behind it. And then when you flip flop back and forth, I can't care that much all make up with norm Donald set an interview. Just let them talk more and take. Don't make up what we're saying. Bar meant. Wait for her next interview. I heard the norm Donald interview in full on Howard Stern. He was there to apologize for his comments about. Fending Louis CK, saying Louis c. k. lost everything in a day in these women victims didn't have to go through that. He don't will Dan repeated exactly in no way. Was that print article misleading? You don't have to make up the fence. Let them talk more. I also have to mind that I think everyone's brain essentially eventually might work like mine. I have to disregard that, which is very difficult, which I learned recently is that I could say I would never do it in a hating, never because there could be a world where I do take the wrong Ambien and whatever and do something stupid. But that's not that that would never be my intention doesn't mean that it would never be somebody else's intention is very, very difficult for me now. So the fact that people do not they didn't see doodle. They came from a place where they wanted to hurt. Someone is so difficult for me to sit in and state, but it's like it's not a one time thing. She harasses. She harassed patent Oswald after his wife died. She sent a tweet back them because they were disagreeing politically like, y'all will your wife like this like and just like really awful stuff like and she is she harassed a all sorts of people, grieving people, grieving parents, like she is like a monster leg, and then that was not enough. And then it was this one tweet people see ABC because that's studios worked too. Like they look at your Twitter probably like five weeks down like these are fine. And then it'd be like now. It's not the first time. Like I said, it's not the first time she used the the monkey or eight term to describe little black woman. So what? What? Why didn't Dr as it and bring that up? I don't know in the why. Why are you going the mental health angle if you didn't have a problem with your own tweet you hit? I don't know. They take so clever. I guess people think they're so smart not they think they're the victim, right. I mean the, I guess the interview would have been literally two minutes long. Here's what my tweet meant. The yen she goes. She goes doctor ause. Thank you by the way you asked me what it might tweet me. You're the first person to MSA really because you've a YouTube channel. We just found that, but nobody asked you what you meant. Nobody asked you for that tweet either. Sometimes we say, shit right now need to be asked what you meant. Now you might be hearing me. They can keep you don't have a wife. How can you even respect women? But I have sisters and I do have a mom so I can kinda respect them and understand that. Maybe it's too much. Sometimes when you have Julie Chen, we mentioned the other day, the wife of less moon Moonves sign off on big brother. For the first time. She's ever done this by saying, thank you for watching. Goodnight. I'm Julie Chen moon vase. That's not a slap in the face to all the victim. I have a question for show about this because this is the thing that that's mammals may brain a little bit. The wives of these guys is very controversial in my own brain solely because it's it's, it's hard like, yeah, it's hard for me to look at a guy who has been so fucked up to women and not think his wife is victim. Number one, she's getting the most. And if he's that mean to those women, he's like at least ten times, maybe a hundred times meaner and she's got Stockholm syndrome and is responding from that place, but also is not helping and actually hurting everything. So where do we? Where do we draw the line of this is a victim of this same person, but she's also because to me when I see a Hasidic Jews Lega early, I, I look at their children and I fucking grieved for them in my brain and people. You shouldn't assume that about the weight. Isn't that go? No, there is no world where you are covering up those children in that woman and and you can't convince me that it's. Not an abusive system as a system Hasidic Jews. I am putting it all out there. A couple of people have nice marriages because they one woman happens to like being that you know as a personality, but most people you just forcing into this. I feel like these women are forced into these positions in one way or another and then but then you know, that doesn't the new slap in the face. I was extremely upset with MRs Jerry. So how does punch does a punch not slap you in the face and women stay with those guys too? I think it's to me, it's the same thing, like all this media than stay with the guys, but don't come on TV and say, how great? Well, I think it's a few things. I think it's hard with the cycle of victim and abuser because it's like if someone gets molested as a kid and then they molest somebody as an adult, like thinking specifically like a Catholic priest or something. Does that mean that the victim of the person who's also a victim is not a victim? No, that's like the same with this woman. In Asia, our Gento like who people were like, oh, well, she was like a victim of the me too movement, but now she's an abuser. Does that invalidate? No, it doesn't invalidate anything. And so it's like with the women who stand by their husbands specifically, it's hard because there's both where you wonder if they're victim, but they do also exert power and agency to abuse others, and I know it into just stay in their mansion. Think about it sometimes like I do play devil's advocate of my mind. Like, I think people maybe think I don't like I do think about like people are falsely accused or like people who if I found out, like if I was dating a guy for like years, and then you find out that he did something super fucked up in the past. Like, what do you do in? It's like, I think that like obviously, I would separate or ask, but then it's like, do you believe them like there is a lot of hard questions in this stuff, and people really liked to come down on the wives because. They want to beat up the women in the equation because they feel like they have no power to reach the men. Well, there's also this other place of we have. We have other people in jail other than rapists, we have the thieves we have white collar crimes, blue collar crimes. We've a lot of different goes Astles at those midway games there rig. Well, I was just gonna say, real. I think that it's like, that's all true. But like that also like you can still knowledge that these women like she has power, and she is using it to further abusing silence victim. So that is true. And if it comes out later, if it's true that she's a victim, I think that those two things like we have to just kinda valuate, you know, both together and separate where it's like both are true. It's a lot of people are kind of like, well is this is that and it's like both are true, you know, she could be a victim, but it also doesn't take away that she is helping an abuser enabling an abuser and might be an abuser herself. A picture sees this Julie Chen Moonves. Then he tries to make a move that night and she's a going. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Like how fucking frustrated be build a partnership with somebody. Women are taught stand by your man, you know? And so then you're just like, well, I'm gonna fucking sick with the sky. Even if you're Cosby's wife is answering the phone to women calling, you know like so, yeah, we're supposed to stand by them. If they rape us, they, you know there's a and it's boys. Louis boys there probably like maybe he did do it, but that's just how men are because that's how they've been taught men. She understands us more than you do sorta thing. And I think that's what we're fed also and feel so good to cure that sometimes and you have to be like, no, that's not to change it in your own brain. And like even. I'm able to get some of the privilege of men by working this system like by flirting by by giving them a little bit of what they want. But those that I take on that responsibility and I try to, you know, go round so fucking off. Goodness, it clearly this conversation is me at like part is now one hundred percent time. I try and start out really fun. I try and banter with somebody by the end. I'm like, yeah, speaking of child abuse. It's really bad to say. I saw the movie with those up. It's yellow had a puppet Peking on my God. That was so funny, the burner. Anything like puppets sexual orientation? Bullshit. I've seen avenue KIO let's net drew safe. So what she's talking about is Mark Saltzman was a writer for Sesame Street and Bert, internee specifically saying, I always felt that without a huge agenda. When I was reading Burton Ernie, they were gay. I didn't have any other way to contextualized them though. He happens to be gay. Also. This is why that started that the writer of Bernie said that they were gay, then that game mazing then very, let miss piggy used to hit on what frogger what's his face all the time. And she would sexually harass him. We knew she was straight as problematic. Saltzman added the relationship between Bernie merit, his relationship with his longtime partner on, no, you wanna say on, then you think about two beds. That sad died in two thousand three, but that's interesting. Ernie Arnold. Honestly, like think about how hard it would have been to be like a gated in a committed relationship at that point in time. And then you have this thing where you're like kind of subtly sending a message to other people like it's not weird to like now. It's funny because it wouldn't be where to all like I'm going to have probably like a female roommate until I'm like thirty five, like all the dudes. I know live with dudes like not even anything like sometimes their gaze, sometimes they're straight like, you know, but what did Bernie do for a living because they weren't comic. So why are these grove adults? That's actually a really, really good point and a sick burn. That's fair. I probably wouldn't feel. To ruin. It's if I wasn't. I. So Arnie is the Bert character Arnie had OCD would create friction in the house, and that's the way he felt that dynamic between the Burton Ernie would go, of course, you know, Ernie was the jokester muppet. That's what I had in my life and Burton Ernie the burner relationship. How could it not permeate? The things that would took off Arnie wouldn't be the things would be the things because me would be the things that would take up. Bert, Sesame Street says, puppets do not have any sexual orientation ain't panic. They're like whereabout to lose all are Christians. This cannot happen like they freaked. God that's Frank is is the main guy behind the the Muppets. It seems Mr. Mark Saltzman he wrote on Twitter was asked of Burton. Ernie are gay. I soon as you start with Mr. Saltzman I'm like, what you have not been calling Mr. Saltzman this whole time, it's fine that he feels that they are l. boy, they're not of course, but why the question doesn't really matter why the need to the fine. People as only gay that somebody who sees straight people in the media all the time where they're like, why this need to label people gay? It's like because we have nobody likes. We need our heroes even if it's Burton earning, please, there's much more to a human being than just straightness or gain this. Yeah, we know one of the stick up is asked one was a little jokester. We know there's other things to them. Yeah, we've been college in other things about Burton Ernie. Also, the implication that's like how a lot of people think unfortunately about characters in general, is that if it's a character's gay, then that's their defining attribute. That's how they're describing the script. That's how Papa. And so it's like then that takes away from everything else Bernie are and it's like, it shouldn't. Right. What is matter if they're, I don't know, why didn't I have to come out to my parents and say, yeah, like does matter. Yeah. Having seen love Simon, it matters this person, Tom rates. Why are they not not arguing us? Just wondering. He said he wrote it from that point of view and Franks's I created Bert. I know what in. Who he is. Do you know what size Dickey as you didn't even begin to think about it, but you put a shirt on him earth l. let's to win you. So when you're dressing up your dolls, do you think about, are they wearing stripes? Did you think about what size head is? It's okay. The puppet version of like it's cool, but just like not around me. Why do you throw that in my FIA this person read rights, you may have created him Frank, but you don't seem to realize appreciate that what he means to thousands of little boys growing up you digging in your heels wrongly, conflicting romantic orientation was sexual orientation with what seems like disgust is what's disappointing and France's. So having straight people, you would never be like that sexual, keep it off the TV, but gay people kissing is like sex or even just the idea of them being together as seen a sexual again, miss picky was downright inappropriate. Yeah, she was like she was. Yeah, she Ernie were just partners. She was physical about it and he was not. Into it. They should be able to fuck on Sesame Street, though. Bernie should be allowed to be horny on their like for real should be both sexual in romantic. How should fuck. So remember this is a, maybe I confused the situation that not. I didn't give us a situation, but these this is Sesame Street as opposed to them up. It's an it makes me think of that new movie. It's getting terrible reviews. All right. Okay. Happy time. Merge. Piggy on both or criminals on both? Not right. No, I don't think they crossover like that, but so Kermit and miss piggy Muppets. Sorry against us. Mr.. Earning, didn't Frank Oz also create them up it. So I still think it doesn't matter because in whatever puppet show or muppet show, you always have a wedding. At some point you always have. You'll always have not like sex, but you have Vermont, sexual orientation come out. And so when it straight, you don't even realize. So I doubt that nothing on his show so showed straight love. No, I don't know if this picture was faked, but there is a thing going round the internet where it literally showed miss piggy pregnant, getting married to Kermit, but will let me tell you this. So you are right Franco's he performed. He performed the muppet characters of MS pig Fosse bear animal Sam, the eagle in the muppet show and cookie, monster, Bert, in Grover in Sesame Street. Yeah, yes. So he did work on no. Traded? No, so cool dude. Well, tell me more. You seem awesome, right? This person writes his their name as nam if you aren't discussed what he cares so much about this come on Frank, say, I hate the gays. It's right there. Man come on say quickly that because that gives the other side, this exclusive like like an, it's like, that's obviously what we're thinking, but it's not that he, he probably doesn't like quote unquote hate gay people because they don't even realize like they're just like, no, I just know that extent comfortable and it's like, yeah, like because you hate yourself. You probably wanted to fuck dudes at one point and you didn't and that sad for you. I think a lot of it is uncomfortable. I used to feel more uncomfortable watching to Deutz kissing than two women, and I think it's because you associate kissing with this gentle like you associate romance? Yeah. You socio with feminine energy on their masculinity and so it. It just seemed like to dudes doing female things. And it's almost like in straight couples, the dude is doing it. 'cause the w-. Woman is there, so he's allowed to be soft around. Yeah, they're like the woman is the excuse to be emotional. That's had to get over that myself. Even though I I, I wasn't homophobe well, I guess that's a form of homophobia, right? But it wasn't anti homosexual stuff. I wasn't. You know, I never understood why we're so involved in in this, you know, just kind of, I don't know what's bothering people about it, but that would kind of go. I feel myself and went to you in that moment without giving you one second and just go, you hate the gas. Like it's like, that's what's hard because internalized that like, fuck guys like genuinely like who care. Fuck this guy like he's definitely has problems like he's definitely homophobic, but it's like also like, don't even give him that, like, you know what I mean? Just like like, I don't like to yellow to do you hate women. I like to, like you said, let him tell on himself. Let him just keep going 'til on himself like you don't have to. Because then he can just go, I don't hate gays period and then people go, you doesn't who'd goodies. And it's like then the whole conversations done and it's like, 'cause you kinda do. So let's explore that Mike, you know this right to go Frank. Let's explore. Right? Come over one day. Let's get some coffee and let me talk to you. Berkner near gay. You're wrong seventy four years old. Is there an age cutoff where there's no point try? No, I don't think so. Because like honestly, this is what I think people use all sorts of things as excuses I'm too old to change. It's like, you know what I know old white men who are. Okay. Like obviously I'm not going to sign a fucking letter for them, like if the something comes out, but like you know, like I, I've seen people who have actually made the change through their actions, not their words. They're not going around calling themselves feminists. They're doing the work, they're listening, they're actively not getting defensive or feeling threatened when they feel privilege leaving in small spaces because that's after haven't see. Like if you lose your privilege, you're always gonna feel like you're deprived if you're getting six things and also in your getting four, you're not thinking that somebody else is getting too when they used to get zero. You're just like I deserve six. So like I do know guys who have thought through that who have made the. Effort. So all these other guys can suck my dick like it's like you can do the work like you can. You can do it. I don't care hold. You are like what I noticed able I noticed around forty people make the decision to be older, not to be old. That's so true to and it's it's, we'll do it now at like twenty five m people always did it around twenty five also because I remember being twenty three and going what if I even accomplished that quarter life, the calling it, the corps, life crisis. But it's very specific to being around twenty five and it's different, super American do or it's just like, oh God, what do I have to show? Yeah, hyper from yeah. Like, oh, I've had this amount of time out of college and people thought I was super-duper now the ordinary because I'm getting older for whatever. That's a different thing around forty. What I noticed now that we've been podcasting for thirteen years, we've watched people get into their forties, and so I'm always nervous getting someone on who hasn't been on for a few years and has recently been around four. Eighty because you will see they're still kind of holding onto ten years ago and the jokes and the kind of banter that they would have or they've been enlightened and they're moving forward in the same thing happens with technology is, oh, that's for them. All. You just decided to be old in this capacity and now you're making that move. And I remember my parents going like my mother, a major thing she used to say in Hebrew is like a, the age does its thing. And every time she said that, I'm like, oh, you gave up on that topic, right? So it's like I'm forty two at my age. My mom had a twenty. I was twenty one, and so I would. She was already old. She did all this shit and I'm riding my bike to work and I'm being active and she goes, oh, you know, I can't lose weight weight as quickly. Your body has changed because you know age does it stain, and I go, well, bicycling does its thing to and running. Does it stink too, and yoga does it stink too. And and so when you start key, when you keep looking for that line, you are picking the road. So at the fork of the road which is around forty your picking, I decided that learning is very difficult and it requires a lot of action and a lot of like uncomfortable. Imagine learning you gotta learn Tinder, all of a sudden it's uncomfortable, and then it is whatever it is for you say some oboe. It's not that hard. If you're consistent with it, it's sit down and study. I really don't. But you also have a group of people every day? No, I think I think this helps. I think that you specifically this is actually a giant intervention. I think you specifically if you went another road and you were maybe another podcast and we booked different people in if if we kept booking, you know the people who are turning forty, who are Adam Karol on every app. You're learning different shit. But when I have fifty fifty people, I guess not because you're staunch let's say Republicans, they don't seem to be artists. You know the, but you know the undercover Bros. the the women who still throw women under the like certain kind of sense of humor. Certain kind of, you know, setting your own ways. Certain kind of when somebody says some stupid on the show like it hits me right away when a guesses. I hate this new way talking in the word triggered, why did you just say something so stupid to me, that's like, I don't even get mad because I'm like, oh, that's sad that you're that boring like it's like, is that your Antic? Is that your go-to anecdote is that you're mad about people saying triggered like, that's what I hear that Goto joke itunes from men comedians about trigger Joe Rogan special. They're like all triggered. I'm like, you're cooled it or even love to me seems to be the participation trophy. And this turns this generation into you think you don't have to try to tell you some. I was in soccer. All right. We all got the participation trophy. I still knew I was bad. I still still gave the ball the Mike. Living. Good. I didn't go to chick and go, hey, I'm on the winning team. You wanna fuck numb to find Mike Lynn, good. We're. Really because we all have orange wedges. I must be just as good as the good. Yeah. Talat was like Brock got to license the PD one. I need it in like me. Okay. Sorry, guys, you know, was just telling me about his kid and they were invited to do this thing to showcase the reading or readers in in their grade or whatever. And he's like, dope. My daughter read so much. He's about to get knowledged for, you know, just what she's into when what she spent her time on he goes, it was sucked. Fucking bullshit. Everyone got the same amount and he said, like in these soccer games in these things, he goes, there is not one kid who doesn't know what the score is. The parents know what the score is, and I'm like, oh, are they really keeping track? He was yet everyone at the end even when they don't keep score. Everyone at the end knows who won and by how much of from from the code keeps score. I mean, it's like that. Yeah, it goes too far. That's the problem is like. Some people take it too far. And then most of us just don't give a shit. It's like give the kid, a participation, trophy. Keep score, who cares like become sane, right, don't work. Yeah, keep Americans are still gonna know who want a new at the end of any situation. Any conversation? Any text? I know these, you can't even who wanna war. Well, that's true. But I do think you're not giving the kids an opportunity to say, hey, good game. Even though I lost to be a good loser to be a good honor. I agree with that is that you have to learn how to lose any up to learn how to win. Yeah, to give credit to to not say nanna foofoo because you're gonna be in a room full of people interviewing for the same job, and you will have to shake the hand of the person that got the job that you want. Because later you might have to work with them and the world, and you have to not be little bitch about it. Competition should teach, but it's like no competition leads to this that and the next your fucking asshole. About like teach your kids that you could be a fucking asshole about it. A lot of people are. At like, it goes so far in both directions because you have the super competitive parents that are like truly abusive to their like athletic kids, you know? And then you have like the other scale, the who was the guy fell. The Seinfeld documentary that was is real asshole in that movie. It wasn't. It wasn't about ornie Adams. So I just happened to see him through a standard show and he started with this bullshit about participation trophies. I literally filing act so simple. It's so stupid. It's an airport, humor this point. And is it because everyone's got ADD, are you right? Is he ironically upsetting? Never got a participation drove and that everybody is he not understand. He is getting a participation trouble being on stage right. There are people who are like that was actually, I saw somebody. I wish I remembered who tweet about the Roseanne thing where this is a big problem too, is that Roseanna and her first show. Oh, she like has this thing where she hits one of the kids and then the whole episode is about the cycle of abuse and how she doesn't want to abuse and how she was abused and how she doesn't wanna hit her kids because she was hit. And then in the reboot, in one of the first episodes, she says, the problem is people don't hit their kids anymore. That's where I remember that I the disconnect is now these people who were like potentially abuse, it was it was I, I don't think that I know anybody in like my parents intermission that wasn't smackdown by their dad, at least once like or their mom. And it's like, so then it was so like accepted that. Then like at first they're like, that's horrible. I don't wanna do that to my kids. So then some of them don't do it to their kid and some of them do. And then they're like, well, I was hit. And so like if your kid's on hit, he's brat and it's like, I know some kids who were hit though, were still brats, and I know kids who weren't hit that were like, I think it's like, you know, it's abuse. It's like, let's just not once just if we know shouldn't once just not right you though. Right? We're going to send one award funny changes. This is again what I tell you every time about a party. I end up being like the war. The wars are mad. Let's discuss like flirt. I'm just like, gosh, you can follow. Call the Marsh on Twitter at Marsha Belsky. Can I plug something to this is what I'm doing. Oh, sorry, doing I trust them to let them speak happening right now. I overcompensate by never looking at knowledge in them in any way and always speaking over them. Tell me about the Handmaid's tale musical, we'll of course it's going to be that Handmaid's tale, the musical. We wrote a parody of the Margaret Atwood novel and Hulu TV series, and it's really cool. It set in twenty Twenty-eight Brooklyn. So it's kind of like these are the girls that you know if they were like taking in. But like also if the commanders were like park slip dads, so like just kind of like what it would look like an our world we have, it's a parody of the show. So like women characters is Rory Gilmore because Alexis Bledel plays like this really dark character, and you're kind of like, oh my God, like they cut off Oregon morts. Click the like it's really like disturbing, but we made it people always like such a hard line to walk. It's so dark. It's like not really because we give the Handmaid's like voice. That's what makes it funny as it's us girls being like. This actually sucks. Like if we're being on us being a Handmaid's like not cool. And so we have done a few shows. It's been really like fun. Fun and successful, and we're going to be at the Kennedy Center in DC on Tober twenty-seventh as part of the Benson ball festival, which is with brightest young things and Tig Notaro I believe. And yeah, we have an eight o'clock show that sold out and we have a ten o'clock show that I think has like fifty tickets left. So get those tickets if you wanna come and it's gonna be really fun. And then we're also going to be at the cutting room in New York City on November eighth, just literally cutting ourselves heading ourselves for the revolution, but now it's been. It's been really fun because I, I've always wanted to write a musical and it's a full musical. It's an hour and a half. It's like a full musical parody. And hopefully we don't get sued musical, I can stomach. There you go. I went, it was so good. Yeah, you did you come to the caveat show or the bell house? The bell house? Yeah, those were really fun too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was so packed we, the people were sitting. Everywhere. On the state. You can't tell who's an act. That goes going to stand up swats we wear bonnets. Okay. Everybody have a great weekend on Monday. We'll, you know, we'll be fair. We'll talk about what's wrong with women. Minutes show. That's it. Thank you very much. Jhom.

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Tue. 03/19 - Stadia is Google's Gaming Streaming Service

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Tue. 03/19 - Stadia is Google's Gaming Streaming Service

"The. Welcome to the tech main ride home for Tuesday March nineteenth twenty nineteen. I'm Brian McCullough. Today goes gaming services called stadia. The I Mak lineup gets an update Instagram ads in apt shopping Intel wants to build an exit scale computer, and why combinator demo day day one. Here's what you missed today in the world of pet. So the name is stadia at the game developers conference today. Google announce stadia a game streaming service launching this year for chrome, Android and TV's that will support cross platform play and four K at sixty frames per second. With HD are Google said it wanted to quote, build a gaming platform for everyone and soon DARPA CHAI said that stadia will be powered by quote, the best of Google quoting from nine to five Google stadia at launch will be available on desktops, laptops, TV's, tablets and phones. This includes chrome OS, even though there is no hardware acceleration on devices like the pixelbook seamless. Switching allows users to move between all devices and save their state. Additionally stadium will support cross platform play for developers and gamers on other consoles for TV's stadia will work via a chrome cast ultra players can use existing controller. Keyboards and mice Google designed its own controller to bring the full stadium experience and quote, more on that controller and a second. There's a crowd play feature allowing you to join a game that is already being streamed. Google assistant is built into the system. So that you could ask for example. How do I beat this level? Youtube will be a major driver of discovery Google demo day feature in YouTube that lets you watch a clip from a game and then hit play now to instantly stream playing of that game. Sign ups for players to try stadia are available now at stadia dot com for players in the US UK, Canada and Europe quoting now from the verge Google demonstrated moving gameplay seamlessly from a phone to a tablet and then to a TV all using Google powered devices while existing USB controllers will work on a laptop or PC Google is also a new stadium controller that will power the game streaming service. It looks like a cross. Between an XBox and a PS four controller, and it will work with the status service by connecting directly through why fight to linked to a game session in the cloud. This will presumably help with latency and moving a game from one device to another. You can also use a button to capture share clips straight to YouTube or use another button to access the Google assistant to power all of this cloud, streaming Google is leveraging its global infrastructure data centers to ensure servers are as close to players around the world as possible that's a key part of stadia as lower latency is a necessity to stream games effectively across the internet who will support up to four K at sixty frames per second at launch, and it's planning to support up to eight K resolutions and a hundred and twenty frames per second in the future and quote more. Interesting details Google has partnered with AMD to power stadia using a custom GPA in those data centers just mentioned that can deliver ten point seven teraflops more than the Xbox One Xs six teraflops and about that controller it looks a bit. Like Sony's dual shock controller as mentioned it has sharing button and Google assistant button. But crucially, also apparently connects directly to the Google data centers to cut back on lag issues, and this is super interesting Google has created its own gaming studio. Four stadia to produce stated exclusive games. The new studio will be led by former E A and Ubisoft executive Jade Redmond. There are few details at this point on the studio other than the name, which will be called stadia games, and entertainment and no word on what titles and what sort of games are under development. But actually, no word on a lot of the details. You might care about no firm date on when the service will launch other than twenty nineteen no word on what games are titles. It will launch with or how many though Google said. One of the first games supported will be doom attornal and no word on how much this service will cost you though, Google promise. More details in the summer to sum up at this point. I'm gonna turn to polygon gone. Quote, Google's gaming platform is not a console Google. It self will be handling all the processing power that is required for each game and will stream that game to your laptop television phone or tablet, so you can play anywhere as long as you have a strong internet connection. Google is the first company to try to truly disrupt the gaming business in some time and stadia could be a threat to everyone from the companies that create and sell consoles to online storefronts like steam, it's hard to wrap your head around. All the ways of this system. Could change the way we interact and play our games that focus on streaming and content delivery versus the creation and physical sales of a console that sits near television is what separates Google from the rest of the major players in gaming platforms. Suddenly the hardware on which you play barely matters. And stadia will in fact be compatible with your existing USB controller or mouse and keyboard along with Google's new custom controller for the service. The only thing that matters is whether you have a strong stable online connection, but it's the speed at which you can begin playing that could take the longest to get used to. As well. As Google's ability to leverage YouTube directly by letting fans. Join streamers instantly streaming itself will no longer burden your connection or hardware because Google will be generating the image on its own hardware before sending one stream to the player and another stream to YouTube allowing others to spectate a high quality stream that doesn't impact the frame rate of the player themselves stadium will also let players create and share their own links that will lead other players to their exact location in a game. Allowing other players to pick up the game from that moment. There are many unknowns here, including how the service will be priced and how many developers will be bringing games two stadia, but Google has introduced the potential for a huge shift in how we think about and interact with our games and quote. Yeah. Right now, the commentary around this is all more questions than answers since Google focus so much on hitting us with the wile, but leaving the details of the reality for later, mainly we still don't know how exactly this so-called net. Flicks for games will function on any side of the equation. Is there a revenue cut for developers or studios is that a straight will pay you for the rights the way Netflix does for a lot of its content with the internal studio. There's obviously a sense of an exclusive content library that goodwill might build out. Everyone will be chewing on this for a while. I'll just leave you with this tweet thread, I saw from no berry, quote, input latency aside is stadia service that you subscribe to like net flicks. As a Dev, I'm really not into the idea of a Netflix for games controlled by Google. Do you license your game to them for a set price? Do you make money per play like Spotify? These have huge implications on how games are designed. And how were able to make? Living from games. Frankly, I do not want the primary way of making revenue from games being some kind of Spotify like system middleman profiting by giving your work away for cheap and giving you pennies return and quote. Tim cook. Are you listening to this podcast? Make my iphone. Blink twice if. Yes. For the second day in a row, this podcasters wishes have come true, and I had to do an insta- purchase. Once again before I started writing this. I can finally replace my dead. I Mak because apple did exactly what I hoped and just quietly updated. The I Mak lineup with Intel's eighth generation and ninth generation core processors and added Amdi radio on pro Vega. GPS to boot quoting from macrumors apple says, the new twenty one and a half inch. I MAC models deliver up to sixty percent faster performance than the previous generation while the new twenty seven inch mex- deliver up to two point four times faster performance than the previous generation, narrowing the gap between the high end standard, I MAC and the MAC pro workstation the new I MAC lineup. Also offers up to six. Eighty four gigabytes faster two thousand six hundred sixty six hurts DDR four memory and up to two terabytes of SSD storage, the base model twenty one and a half inch four K I MAC in particular has new thirty two gigabytes of memory and one terabyte of SSD upgrade options for the first time and quote, thank you macrumors. And thank you for the ever trustee macrumors buyer guide that I MAC crapped out on me, two months ago. 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Instagram has added in apple shopping allowing users to buy from twenty beauty and fashion brands right inside Instagram itself, you can shop checkout pay and manage orders right inside the app. This is still sort of a beta test but quoting from digital during the test when a user taps on a view the product button. They will see a checkout on Instagram option rather than being taken to an e commerce site. Once a person enters all of their information within Instagram which can be saved for future purchases. They can buy directly and manage their orders in the app. The feature will be rolled out over the course of the next few weeks to mobile users in the US. They will be able to check out products by brands including Adidas Anastazia, Beverly Hills color. Pop Huda, beauty K K, W, beauty, Kylie, cosmetics, Nike and ally hair. Oh, you a hair it's worth noting that the brands included in. The beta test are some of the most popular on Instagram. For example, Huddah beauty has over thirty four million followers. Kylie cosmetics has just under twenty million followers and Nike has over eighty five million followers. Businesses were selected based on their adoption and performance of shopping on Instagram, according to page Cohen a spokesperson for Instagram additionally, Instagram tried to choose brands that reflected a wide variety of products and price points and quote. Invidia has announced what it is calling the Jetson Nanno a seventy millimeter by forty five millimeter, AI computing board for entry level AI applications aimed at developers makers and enthusiasts. All starting at ninety nine dollars quoting the verge. The Nanno is the latest in videos line of Jetson, embedded computing boards. Us to provide the brains for robots and other AI powered devices. Plug one of these into your latest creation, and it will be able to handle tasks like object recognition and autonomous navigation without relying on cloud processing power, this sort of setup is known as edge computing. And because it means that the data being processed from cameras and microphones never leaves the device. The end result is usually hardware that is faster more, reliable and more secure. So everybody wins past Jetson boards. Have been used to power a range of devices from shelf skinning robots made for lows to sky ios autonomous drones. But the Nanno is aiming even smaller and quote ninety nine dollars gets you four hundred seventy two Gigaflops of computing, powered by quad core arm, a fifty seven processors, a one hundred twenty eight core Invidia Maxwell Jeep, Hugh and four gigabytes of ram supported frameworks include tensor flow, pie torch cafe Karras and Mexico. Quote. We expect a lot of the maker community that wants to get into but has been unable to in the past the Jetson Nanno will allow them to do that in videos. Vice president of autonomous machines day Talla told reporters. And Intel says it will soon build America's first exit scale supercomputer using its new G G architecture, partnering with Cray on a project for the US department of energy's Argonne National Laboratory in Chicago the goal is to produce a computer with one eggs, a flap of performance one Quinton floating point computations per second by next year, quoting from venture beat the Santa Clara company says that the five hundred million dollars system dubbed Aurora is purpose built for both traditional high-performance computing and artificial intelligence, and that it will be used to dramatically advance scientific research and discovery it's the second ration- Intel previously said it would deploy a one hundred eighty pedophile supercomputer at Argonne in twenty eighteen architect it on its third gen nights hill Zeon five processors, but scrapped the plans. After China reveal it intended to build an ex Gail system by twenty twenty at the core of Aurora is a future generation of Intel's Zeon, scalable processor, Intel z paired with next gen octane. DC persistent memory, it will employ craze Shasta supercomputing system, and it's slingshot high-performance interconnect and quote. And finally today yesterday was why combinator winter demo day number one more than eighty-five companies debuted to the wider world part of why sees largest winner class yet which features more than two hundred companies. In fact, the white combinator classes have gotten so huge that they had to split the demos into two different stages and by stages. I mean actual stages that you can stand on its sort of gotten like ca- Chela where you have to decide which stage you wanna watch even if you were in the building in person yesterday, you wouldn't be able to see all of the presentations because they were going on simultaneously. There was a pioneer stage any mission stage as they do every year tech crunch has a helpful post up giving a quick summary of every company and basically their elevator pitch. I enjoy just scrolling through the list every time. So in case you do as well last link in the. Show notes is to the first half of the white combinator winter crop. Since the Google was late in the day. I'm running late getting this done. It is three thirty four PM eastern right now. So I'm just going to say I'm just going to say talk y'all again tomorrow.

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