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Julia Elbaba on keeping her pro dreams alive
"Our special guest is someone who was a legend in College Julia. L. Baba. High Girls! Thanks for having me. A brief rundown of Julian tennis career, she was number one in college as a junior Uva four time all American set a record at UvA singles with one hundred and thirty three wins, and then took her skills. Bro tour which is has been ranked as high as number three seventy two, so we want to talk about your career. Your Life, your tennis, story and kind of what's next for you because you're in New York I guess I. Where have you been for this whole pandemic? Have you been in New York or if you've been? So my father is a frontline health care worker in New York so I decided instead of like kind of staying away from him in the House I thought you know, let me just go to back to my. Stomping grounds at Virginia where things were kind of magical for me there i. just honestly they say best. Four years are in college and I never boating and when I actually went to school. I totally understood why they say that I can't get enough of that place. And I feel like many other tennis players that had attended UBA same way 'cause we were kind of all in quarantine together in Charlottesville from about mid March two up until a couple of weeks ago. We were kind of all. They're not necessarily hanging out, but we were all doing our thing in Charlottesville. Some people were hitting, but Just being there with so nice and The situation is a lot better there than New York is far as corona virus. So with regards to your college experience I. Mean I went to college for two years and I mean. You're clearly very excited talking about your college experience. What would you say like sticks out? What is it that you love so much about it? I just really appreciate a team environment of tennis and kind of playing for team. I actually that's the hardest thing I've been dealing with after call just kind of transitioning back to the individual lifestyle so playing for a team playing for your coaches, the school. The fans something about that was. Just brought me to life every day, and it was, it was beautiful and and also I'm a person that thrives in a situation where I have more than one thing going on multitasking so doing school with tennis I really that busy lifestyle, and that's kind of actually why. I started my own podcast as a way to have something else to juggle with professional tennis right now. It's a tricky time. I feel like especially. You just turned twenty six and you sound like you're still very connected to your college experience, but you did. Take your skills to the pro tour. Can you tell us where you're at in your career with tennis? Yeah so up. Until the beginning of two thousand, nineteen, I was going strong with competing traveling around the world. And then unfortunately, my body is very easily injured. I have a very muscular physique and it's just. Primarily like just genetics people think what are you doing, Jim that your body so muscular and strong like? Oh, you can ask my mom. But honestly I feel like the muscle mass. Mass! makes me more prone to injury and I'm actually now unhealthy but I was dealing with an injury for the past year. A torn UCLA in my right elbow, which is like You probably know what Tommy John. If you have to get surgery, it's Tommy John Surgery. But I didn't need that. Luckily I was actually ready to start competing again once. Quarantine hit sides kind of bad lockwood the timing. What's been one of the things that you've found other than the fact that you have to play for yourself now? I mean being on the tour is not easy. A lot of people just think that Oh. I was a good college player. You know now I'm going to just transition easily into the tour, but what was kind of the most shocking thing for you. Definitely the adjustment to just being on the road by herself. Obviously, if you know you're doing really well, you can bring a whole entourage and it's great. physios of massage therapists families all your support system, but also I Adore on court coaching. I it just really works well for me. And I get really tight and nervous on tennis court so having that coach during matches especially in college, I definitely thrived in that environment. So I'm actually very. Much like into trying to have coaching during matches in protest I think that would just be super cool. Tennis is like the only sport that doesn't have that like why.
Munroe Bergdorf on Systemic Racism
"Just trying to not try not to think too much about people talking about me and just focusing on contributing to the conversations are going on at the moment and China be of use to make communities trying to be of use to. The people that follow me are looking to educate themselves on what's going on in the wild. What are the reasons we're speaking is because of what's happened with you and Lori L. and for anyone who happens to have been onto a rock for the past three point five years. Will you just explain? The situation from the beginning with them and how that's now been reconciled. Because I think it's fascinating. Okay well I'm going to try and squeeze three years into five minutes so. Allow me a little bit. I was the first transgender motto for L'OREAL Al so fast transient just brakes person and it came in two thousand seventeen, which was just two months after the Charlottesville riot as a year after trump was elected, we were seeing of vitriol. pouted in every direction. I think are a lot of people of color realized what was going to happen eventually I think now the world is starting to see what we've always knew was going to happen. Always known what was going to happen starring my. So? Yes, we I wrote status on facebook in response to it, which was very colorful and emotional and angry and. I wrote about how all white people benefit from racism, and that's an uncomfortable fact, but it's true because it's being there to ensure the success of the white race. That's what raises them. Institutionally systemically is about. Yes. I don't think people are really ready for that conversation. I was I was dropped from the campaign as a result. And it just left, can me? Ask Monroe and what was your? What was your active role? What were you doing l'oreal at the time? And I'm just curious about how the? Phone call or what were you doing? Puts a spokesman mean. So I was I was that fast transgender model, so I was part of a campaign which was essentially promoting that they had a new range of foundations and. It was it was las different shades, and you could find your shade. Tree much foundation. and. They knew that. They knew that I was an activist, so it wasn't really out of the Blue I've always been very cold about my thoughts on racism transfer a beer and systemic oppression of kinds. And I wrote this two months before the campaign came out, so it wasn't like we were mid. Short and then this happened and. So it's before the campaign was public like at it, right? There was there was there was a little bit of talk behind the scenes. I need two days before that the Daily Mail. We're going to print the story and it was very much kind of renewed. They didn't support me basically I. I'll say that much. No support and there was no encouragement of opening a narrative about racism and speaking about racism, speaking about my experience experiencing racism So that's what I was upset about, and it was very much like shut it down. A situation so. Cut To three years in the future and Lori Al have posted a black square and posted a graphic saying speaking out speaking out is always worth speaking out as worth. And I saw it and I against saw Retinas I. Wait a minute. This is all well and good. This is great. This is fantastic, but you haven't made things right with me and you haven't recognized where you fell short with one of your black employees. In a very highly publicized incident, so. Yeah, I basically posted about that. And then all of my followers help them also accountable, so we jumped Anna Zoom cool, and they ended up and it was a two hours. It was very long cold. It was again squeegee. Three hours three three hours three years into two hours, so I basically said everything that I've been through in the last three years. How them refusing to. Offer me that platform to speak about the realities of my experience. Kinda three me to the wolves said they actually offered me a job. In helping them as a brand to understand their role in the beauty industry as a leader that one of the biggest beauty browns in the wild, and they've got. They've got the power. You really revolutionizing, change the industry,
'Indefensible': Trump slammed for sharing video where supporter yells 'white power' at protesters
"For Retweeting a racist video more on this from a B C's Rachel Scott. The White House is trying to explain why the president of the United States used his enormous platform to amplify this racist message. The President Retweeting this video to his 82 million followers. A man shouting white power in a golf cart displaying Trump 2020 campaign signs Trump supporters clashing with counter demonstrators two weeks ago at a Florida retirement community called the villages, according to its new site. Hey, the president sharing a two minute expletive filled excerpt of the sites Video, adding, Thank you to the great people of the village is Senator Tim Scott, the Senate's on ly black Republican, called on President Trump to delete the post, I think is indefensible. We should take it down more than three hours after posting he did. This is really not about the president taking it down. This is about the judgment of the president and putting it up. In a statement, The White House says the president did not hear the one statement made on the video, adding. What he did see was tremendous enthusiasm from his many supporters. What the president has insisted He keeps a close eye on what he shares as outrage over racial inequality sweeps the nation. The Department of Homeland Security warns of an increase in white supremacist violence. The president's tweet is potentially dangerous because it may be viewed by some white supremacists as I call to action. Or even a call for violence. His rival Joe Biden, noting the president's message recalls this moment when a white nationalist rally turned deadly in Charlottesville. You also had people That we're Very fine people on both sides bite and writing. Today, the president shared a video of people shouting white power and said they were great, adding the president has picked a side coma news time. 7
Pelosi calls for removal of Confederate statues from U.S. Capitol
"There's no speaker Nancy Pelosi calling for statues of Confederate figures to be removed from the U. S. capitol she said in a letter yesterday to the house Senate committee with jurisdiction over the issue that the statues quote pay hommage not they do not pay up for pay hommage to heritage they pay hommage to hatred she said and there are eleven statues in the capitol including the statue hall the honor Confederate figures their policy also calls for the removal of the statues in two thousand seventeen she called for them after the violent white nationalist rally in Charlottesville
Richmond judge blocks removal of Robert E. Lee statue for 10 days
"A judge's blocking Virginia governor Ralph Northam from dismantling US state statue that is of Confederate general Robert E. Lee in Charlottesville correspondent Laura Podesta last week cheers erupted after the governor announced it was coming down after one hundred thirty years but supporters of the monument immediately protest it and now a lawsuits been filed against governor Ralph Northam and the director of Virginia's department of general services a judge has issued a ten day temporary injunction to stop the state from removing the
Prosecutors consider hate crime charges against KKK leader who drove into Virginia protest
"Prosecutors are considering hate crimes charges against a man arrested this weekend for driving his truck into a crowd of protesters near Richmond Virginia and here's Hannah lamb reports that authorities say the man is a self described leader the stakes complex clan authorities say thirty six year old hairy age Rogers drove up to protesters revved his engine and plowed into the crowd one person was injured and treated at the scene Rogers was charged with assault attempted malicious wounding and destruction of property prosecutors are also weighing hate crime charges authorities say Rogers considers himself a state KKK leader the suspect that his actions were driven by racial hatred in a statement the local county prosecutor called the attack despicable comparing it to Charlottesville we're in twenty seventeen a white nationalist rammed his car into a crowd of protesters killing a woman a woman identified as Rogers girlfriend told the Richmond times dispatch that he was acting in
Districts jettison school police officers amid protests
"Some school districts around the country are deciding to end their use of uniformed police officers on their campuses in light of the nation wide protests over the death of George Floyd some school administrators are cutting loose their school resource officers Minneapolis did well Saint Paul Minnesota Portland Oregon and Charlottesville Virginia are weighing that idea the school board member in Denver wants to replace eighteen uniforms school police officers with counselors nurses and expert on conflict resolution the head of the national association of school resource officers has weighed in saying that S. R. owes are needed when weapons are brought to school and they serve as mentors and coaches he warns against a knee jerk reaction to George Floyd's death in Minneapolis calling that evil I'm Jackie Quinn
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence
"Brand as protests rage across the country over the police killing of George Floyd white nationalist groups have been using the unrest to their advantage not a new tactic remember Charlottesville in twenty seventeen you from Charlottesville Virginia white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence it is impossible beyond words you also had people that were very fine people on both sides some of those very fine people included neo **** Klansmen protesters from other alt right groups trump blamed antifa a collection of people who protest fascism and he's blaming that group for today's unrest it turns out that some of the people involved in Charlottesville are also behind the violence in today's protests and joining us now to talk about that is Amy's Potomac she's executive director of integrity first for America and that's a nonprofit group suing the organizers of the Charlottesville unite the right rally for conspiring to commit violence thanks for joining us thanks so much for having me well where do you see some of the same people popping up now so it's really important to understand how these groups operate and some are incredibly organized with military style higher keys and others are a little bit more amorphous but the same trends we see throughout the board whether it's in Charlotte's veil or now or the many other white supremacist accident happened in between most notably just last night and number of news outlets reported that a white supremacist group called identity Evropa which is one of the defendants in our Charlotte's lawsuit in fact they're the group that quoine that phrase you will not replace us that we heard chanted a few moments ago I'm they were posing as antifa on Twitter to urge violence including during the protests Twitter suspended the account the other day but that tweet had gone viral minute set people off understandably so who are concerned about violence in their communities and allow people including the president to then say that they were going to target antifa deploy the military and so on and so the ways in which we see these extremist groups trying to call walked a moment like this and use it to spread not just is this information but also he an actual violence is a sad trend that has been happening over and over again over the last few years our our so I just wanna unpack that a little bit more about the role of identity Europa first of all what is this organization so there are a number of neo **** and white supremacist groups that are focused around this idea of identity the idea of a white identity and identity Europa believes that there should be a white homeland they believe in the white identity being superior to all there are white supremacist group in that sense and they're big claim to fame if you L. was helping to organize the Charlottesville violence what happened in Charlottesville was not an accident it was not Spontini yes this violence rather the violence is planned for months in advance on social media by number of neo **** and white supremacists including identity Europa where they talked about everything in advance from what to wear what to bring for lunch with weapons to carry and whether they could hit protesters with cars and then claim self defense which is of course ultimately what they did identity Evropa and over played a role in which they organized white supremacists from around the country to descend on Charlottesville and helped us bird this weekend of violence of course as you might expect since they were sued by my organization and since they started seeing additional fallout he will bad PR from their role in Charlotte's well they've tried to rebrand the now go by American identity movement but at the end of the day if they're the same white supremacist organization that has been working to sow disinformation fear violence and of course we are going to ensure that they remain liable for the violence that they cost insurance now sadly there role spreading disinformation and hate and violence right now during the George Floyd protest only underscores the importance of holding them accountable so aside from posting fake tweets posing as antifa do you think that they are actually posing as demonstrators on the streets or that other alt right groups are doing that too posing as as demonstrators and and causing havoc so we don't know for sure exactly who is posing as who at this point but what we do now is that there are a number of extremists including a number far right extremists were trying to take advantage of this moment and exploit it for their own game we also know that they're armed extremists were showing up at these protests in trying to start riots or urge what they call a Google which is their code for a second civil war you might know these guys by their automatic weapons and Hawaiian shirts which are the hallmarks of their identity and some might claim that they're there to protect the protesters but I wouldn't let that fool you they are part of this loose coalition of far right militia extremists who believe in urging a second civil war or some sort of revolution they're generally support of anti government violent resistance and they think that these protests can serve as a catalyst for the violent upheaval that they've long wanted we've only seen a number of incidents over the last few days in which these will extremists have been showing up at protests with their automatic weapons in some cases we've had folks arrested including one who was arrested for firing shots at a black lives matter rally the other day we had the department of homeland security warned lawn for or spend that white supremacists including some of these Google extremists are encouraging their supporters to shoot protesters one of these extremists that on telegram which is a social media site frequented by extremists that they are encouraging them to quote frame the crowd around you for the violence and so we've seen over and over again a number of these extremists go to these protests with their heavy weaponry with our automatic weapons and then either bring violence against the protesters themselves or try to frame the protesters for violence there's so many details that are still on the phone but these anecdotes definitely illustrated construct a concerning pattern and where are they most active these extremists have been everywhere we saw a report of police using automatic weapons and other tactical gear from local extremist in Denver they've truly been all over the place I believe one of the arrest of a protester a rather of an armed extremist who was firing shots at the rally was in North Carolina until they're all over the country and typically these extremists are finding each other online on social media platforms like the very one which the Charlottesville violence was planned and they're inspiring each other with their means and with these other calls to violence so that when an individual goes to one of these protests armed with their automatic weapons wearing their you know their meetings on their desks and on their shirt wearing those Hawaiian shirts it's part of this larger effort to call walk these protests and spread their extremist ideology use these protests exploit them to further their really stick a vision for a second civil war and by second civil war you man like a race war exactly you know and and I would say a race war in certain cases within the balloon movement there are various ideologies as well some are straight up white supremacists who believe that we need to whites rather a race work to spur the rise of a truly white society others are more focused on taking down the government itself they're worried about the government quote you know stealing their guns their quote unquote individual liberty and so within the movement it's important understand that there are factions but there are certainly white supremacists within the global movement and ones who as you said it are doing so are sort of trying to use these protesters burn race war on and bring about this collapse of society that they so crave and so these guys as you say and I assume most of our guys are pretty identifiable because they have their Hawaiian shirts are carrying weapons but I assume there are other groups that are more under the radar a hundred percent I think over the next few weeks we're certainly gonna learn a lot more about who might be coming to these protests are just coming and and looting inciting violence trying to take advantage of a very legitimate protests and distract from it in order to spread their own hate and violence and I think that's really what this is all about at the end of the day these are extremists who are trying to coop these protests in order to sow fear so he and his distract from the actual issues at hand which are racial justice and police brutality and so as they continue to do this it only serves to undermine the very legitimate protesters were out on the streets rightfully sharing their grievances and standing up for the justice thank George for and so many others
Top New York City ER doc commits suicide, shaken by coronavirus onslaught
"Very sad news about a frontline medical employee employee was was finding finding the the pandemic pandemic every every day day in in New New York York City City tragedy tragedy hits hits a a New New York York City City medical medical community community with with the the loss loss of of an an E. E. R. R. doctor doctor who who took took her her own own life life Sunday Sunday Charlottesville Charlottesville police confirm that Dr Lorna brain was rushed to you VA hospital where she died from self inflicted injuries brain was the medical director at New York Presbyterian Allen hospital her father told The New York Times that doctor bring contract the corona virus herself and tried to return to work a week and a half later to help our colleagues but he said his daughter couldn't complete her twelve hour shift she then traveled to Virginia to spend time with her family her father said that Dr Brene often talked about work and about the onslaught of corona virus patients her department has seen and the toll the bars took on them her father says he wants her to be remembered as a
Virginia - Student sues Liberty University due to coronavirus response
"At a liberty university student upset the trees weren't refunded in the wake of the pandemic is suing the school according to the times dispatch we get more from W. R. B. A.'s Jeff Stapleton a Charlottesville law firm representing the young name student who filed the suit says keeping the school open though classes and everything else was held on line put students in an unusual position of either staying on campus that was open get all online or returning home and just giving up on the amount of money they had paid for room and board and other campus fees the suit goes on to say even if students stayed on campus there's no way that the services or activities you're paying for could actually be
Judge rules cities' Affordable Care Act lawsuit can proceed
"Three a federal judge in Maryland has ruled that a lawsuit by several cities alleging that the trump administration has sabotage the affordable Care Act can go forward the judge denied parts of the government's motion to dismiss the complaint the lawsuit asserts the administration is trying to discourage enrollment and reduced choices and will destabilize the health care industry market Columbus Ohio is the lead plaintiff joined by Baltimore Cincinnati Chicago Philadelphia and resident residents of Charlottesville
Virginia - Vice President Mike Pence to visit Walmart Distribution Center in Gordonsville
"Earlier today vice president Mike pence spending time in Virginia during a district a distribution center and ship supplies out all over the country ABC's Alex per share reports pence thanked workers and urged Americans not a horse hello dear Walmart vice president just outside of Charlottesville Virginia Wednesday I just want to combine president wanted me to come by to say thank you speaking with staff
'Do Skunks Like How They Smell?' And Other Silly Questions
"We'll start out with a question from Lilly she asks. Why do pickles and cactuses like each other? I will admit lily. I've never thought about the fact that pickles kind of resemble some CACTI but now that you mention it they do and if you've ever picked a cucumber straight from the garden you might know that some varieties of cucumber have little spikes on them just like a cactus. If you're wondering. Pickles are cucumbers that have been pickled in vinegar brine. You can make other kinds of pickled vegetables too but let's just keep it simple and assume lillies talking about pickled cucumbers to make things even more confusing. There's actually a cactus called cucumber. Cactus and I think that cactus looks less like a cucumber than some other kinds of cactus but back to the question cucumber and CACTUS are both plants. But they're in different plant families. They're not very closely related. Cucumbers are in the Gourd family related to things like pumpkins squash and watermelon CACTI. That's the plural of CACTUS. Cacti are succulents plants that store water not all succulents are CACTI. But that's the family there in so I guess the fact that both of these plants look of alike is random but there are actually in nature a lot of reasons that things that aren't related lookalike. Sometimes it's because there are patterns that repeat through nature and we see them in all kinds of objects. Another reason is something called convergent evolution. We're different organisms like plants or animals develop similar traits similar. Looks or ways of doing things even though they're not related often it's because they have had to adapt to similar environments and they both did it in the most effective and efficient way even though they were doing it separately. I don't know if that's what's happening with pickles. Cacti but I think it could be. I'm GONNA keep thinking about this and maybe we can circle back around to it in a future episode. If we find out anything interesting at any rate really good observation lily. Hi My name is Jesse. I live in Charlottesville Vermont Annoying Sheldon I would like to know what our googlers made out of you declan. Don't tell anyone but I actually don't think your question is all that gross. It's always good to know what's in your body right. Put simply buggers are just dried or congealed snot. So what's not? Snot is more politely and scientifically known as Mucus Producing Mucus. Is One of the ways. Your body stays healthy. Your body produces a leader of mucus every day in your nose your sinuses and your digestive tract mucus sticky and it helps to keep all the dirt dust and pollen out of your lungs so the mucus in your nose likes to hang around and stick to the little hairs on the inside of each nostril. That's how it can catch some of that dust and dirt that you're breathing in so you don't get it deeper into your body and sometimes that Mucus Kinda dries up there and it forms boogers. Mostly it's okay to just leave the boogers alone. You know but if you need to get rid of them user tissue. Here's a question from Bennett. Employers now eleven San Carlos Santana California in my question is. How do you fish C. Underwater without goggles? Our answer comes from Joe Blasi of the New England aquarium in Boston so animals have. Is that our builds in a way that is best for their environment. So your eyes designed to see an air. And that's the way that they work best so with you. Swim underwater with no goggles. Your is can't see really well so what happens when you put on goggles. There's a little teeny tiny bit of air. That's trapped in the goggles with your eyes so you can still see underwater. Now Fish. Don't need goggles. Because there is designed to work under water they still have the same parts that you do. There's a cornea an iris and pupil The way that the light gets in and bounces around. And then transmits a signal to their brain so they can see things. I'm and some fish can actually see really well considering the refresh But there is designed to work much better in a water environment rather than an Air Environment. One of the reasons that humans blink is to keep our eyes wet so do fish need to blink at all. They don't fish. Don't have eyelids blinking necessary. Whoa fish don't have eyelids cool now onto skunks hi. My name is enchanted. Seven years old. I live in Melbourne California. My question is like the smell of themselves. That's a good question and we found just the right person to answer it. Mary Holland is a naturalist and she was actually the very first guest on. But why more than three years ago discounts like the smell themselves as often as I've encountered skunks and even been spray by one. It has never occurred to me to wonder how the smell affects the skunk. I've always been more concerned with how it affects me. According to Dr Jerry. Tegu an expert on skunks and head of the Dragoon Institute for the betterment of skunks and skunk reputations skunks. Do not enjoy the smell of their own spray or the spray of other skunks. Skunks rarely spray each other or other animals. They only have a certain amount of spray inside them and once it's all used up. They must go several days without it while their body manufacturers more during this time they are defenceless so they only spray another animal. If they are seriously threatened. So if you don't WANNA get sprayed. Mary says it's best not to scare a skunk. They don't want to spray you. Prior to spraying a skunk will give ample warning to its enemy by stamping his front feet. If this is ignored then skunk will spray as a last defense when Scott Spray. They rarely get any on themselves though. They can tolerate their own smell. They do not appreciate getting it in the face and is from another skunk. A Scott. Sense of smell is even stronger than humans so if anything the skunk suffers more than anyone who has had the misfortune of being sprayed if a skunk does encounter counter the spray of another skunk. It will rub its face in the dirt sneeze or try to groom itself to get rid of the sprays odor
White Nationalism in the White House: Katie McHugh Kept Receipts
"It's no secret that members of the trump administration up to and including trump himself are parroting the views of white nationalist and white extremist groups. These organizations are tied into outright media outlets like Breitbart and others where they spread this propaganda to the masses. We're going to try something a little different today. I'll be joined by a guest. Co Host. Hossan Ahmad is an immigration attorney and anti white nationalist activist from Virginia. Hossan has been deeply involved in obtaining the archived writings of John. Panton one of the men. Behind the current white nationalist movement in America Hossan connected me to Katie McHugh. Katie is a former white nationalist. Who has renounced her views in his working. Hard to undo the damage. She did when she held them. She's a former staffer for Breitbart and other alt-right media where she was in constant correspondence with Stephen Miller at the trump white house. She's exposed those emails and the deep ties of Miller into the white nationalist movement in America voice box he's overlap between trump's message white nationalist ideology he has shown us that the majority of Americans support are sort of message. You know what yeah make. America great again fell the wall. Pick these people out. This is my country. This this all belongs to me. Trump demurred when asked whether he'd condemned supportive comments from former Ku Klux Klan. Leader David Duke. I have to look at the group I mean. I don't know what group you're talking about. You wouldn't want me to condemn a group that I know. The person is dead and nineteen injured after a speeding vehicle drove into a group of protesters. Your leader downtown Charlottesville very fine people on both sides so we just got a new batch of emails from Breitbart reporter Katya Q. The Southern Poverty Law Center has made public excerpts of emails sent by White House. Senior adviser. Stephen Miller was a key figure shaping immigration policy or president trump the email messages for fifty thousand sixteen. Show Miller support white nationalist website and ideologies. My name is Katie mccue. I've exposed eight far-right extremists in the past fifteen months by working with civil rights groups and legendary nonprofits. I'm very excited now. In the stage of my life to help the most vulnerable in society including people of Color immigrants those who practice Islamic faith and those who this car presidential administration opposes the mouse and seeks to punish through use of authoritarian policies. Sorry Not Sorry so katy you spent a bit of time in the alright. What is the difference if you can explain to US between the alright a white supremacy and white nationalism? What are some of the core beliefs that you're aware of as part of this movement? Well I can say I think we should begin with aristotle here. I don't want to sound pretentious but everything is on a trajectory this is also just basic calculus so one of the things. Aristotle spoke about was habit and one thing you witness with the outright because the media treated them as a truly humorous force that's just online and it's backing Donald Trump and it's young people. The fact is everything that they said. Ironically I'm making air quotes eventually became ironic so whenever people thought they were quote unquote trolling about saying the nineteenth amendment should be repealed and you had white supremacist media figure. Richard Spencer eventually meeting. No I don't believe women should have the right to vote all these memes and things you see on twitter and the way that these mobs were organized so much so that they became. It was almost like blunt force trauma when it came to harassment for media figures. They were not joking. And in the case too with someone like Stephen Miller who's one of the most powerful people in the US government especially when it comes to people who are not white. So who is Stephen Miller? And why is it so important that we understand his thinking? Stephen Miller is one of the closest advisers to president trump. He is the architect of trump's immigration policy and also has the president's ear on foreign policy matters. Stephen Miller for his entire career had anti immigrant. Leanings for some people philly with the alright because it's an amorphous group and doesn't have a membership roll with you. Know I mean. They viewed on white people and people who practice the Islamic faith as not only dangerous individuals but an existential threat to the country. And this does tie into eugenics which unfortunately America has a very dark history with eugenics Ray Science and a history which John drew from and help shape the anti immigrant agenda that has sought renewed energy from the emergence of the outright and renewed energy from the trump campaign and which we now see the full force turned against the most desperate vulnerable people in the world for punish purely because of their country of origin their ethnicity in the face that they practice kitty. You seem so articulate and passionate and human and when we paint these pictures are head of the other side we sort of create these villains. I think I WANNA be respectful for your privacy and safety but I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about how you got caught up in the movement so that we can have a better understanding as to how other people get caught up in the movement. Thank you for asking that because I think that everyone's path is different but buying could help explain some of the groundwork for other young people currently trapped in this. Who Don't quite know how to get out. The outright on the far-right are very much like a gang. You know there's a no snitching policy and I think that many many young people especially let's say trump does not win reelection in twenty twenty this year. A lot of young people are going to wonder. How do I get out of this? And how do I reconnect with other people again and have a healthy loving life full of good friendships? Good connections across backgrounds. So I will just say that I'm from Pennsylvania regular conservative town and I was raised like I think the joke is. You're born a lapsed Catholic. So that was my upbringing. Regular childhood must very nerdy was constantly reading and I was politically inclined. People always talk about two thousand four election. People were very excited about George W Bush. Because it's a Red County and two thousand eight of course with the banking crisis. Things got much more serious and of course the Iraq war still going on so I was chatting with one of my best friends. Her Dad and I was regular Republican fully supporting the Iraq war in in the war in Afghanistan and he said well. Why don't you read this person named Joe So brand? Joseph O'Brien was a former senior editor for national review. He was fired by William F Buckley because he could not control his anti-semitism. I ate him alive. Almost like a neurological virus and I'm eighteen. I had never met someone of poop practice. Jewish faith Jewish background nothing. I didn't understand anti-semitism and I was reading the Essay. That was recommended to me. Call the reluctant anarchists sing. How all government is evil in the constitution has already been so violated. We just need to go back to something. Like pre articles of confederation. Okay this is very important to understand. Is that there is a serious libertarian. Too Far right pipeline very serious and the far right of course is just steeped in. Eugenics steepen utterly discredited on Justifiable Race
'Viral: Anti-Semitism in Four Mutations': A Close-Up on Hatred
"In an unhealthy society? That has problems. They say who did this to us? And the Jews are always candidate. That's columnist George will who's featured in a new documentary on anti-semitism out in theaters across the country on Friday with us in the studio to discuss that film is its creator. Andrew Goldberg in two thousand nine. Andrew focused his lens on the resurgence of Anti Jewish hatred around the world and in mainstream media but after the two thousand sixteen election and the CHARLOTTESVILLE rally where protesters proclaimed the Jews will not replace us. Goldberg felt compelled to return to the topic for an even deeper exploration in viral for mutations of anti-semitism Goldberg travels through four countries. The United States Great Britain France and Hungary to speak firsthand with victims witnesses anti-semites an high profile figures including bill. Clinton Tony Blair Deborah Lipstadt and AJC Europe director. Simone Rodin Benkin in Pittsburgh. He examined the far right ideas that led to the attack on the tree of life synagogue in Hungary he looks at the Anti Immigration. Anti George Soros anti-jewish propaganda promoted by the government and in the UK. He explores the pain caused by the Anti Zionist messages from the UK's Labor Party the film also explores the repeated violence against Jews in France carried out by Islamists Andrew. Welcome glad to be here. Thank you so thank you for making this documentary and I'm curious. Can you kind of take our audience back to the original conception of it and how it evolved over time since I believe some events actually transpired in the making of the documentary will shortly after the election? We noticed there was sort of an uptick in anti Semitic incidents around the country. There were series a bomb threats which we know turned out to be bogus but those caught. Everyone's attention and suddenly everyone was noticing things and shortly after that a lot of tombstones were desecrated several different cemeteries and then the sort of global eyeballs started to notice these things talk about them more in the press and online and we immediately thought we should make a film about antisemitism and we didn't know what it would look like or what it would be. I think our initial thoughts were that would be about the United States but as we did more and more research and we knew this was a global issue. We knew it was happening in other countries. But as you unpack these things you realize that. There's an urgency to a lot of these stories and so we decided to really expanded and to look at four different situations. Those would be the far right in the United States. The far left in England in Hungary where the prime minister has launched a massive PR campaign against a Jewish philanthropist and in France where Islamist have been killing Jews in various terror attacks and other violent attacks against Jews to the tune of what unofficial numbers seemed to be more than three thousand a year. Now you've been making documentaries and doing journalism for twenty years As have I and I was a religion reporter for fifteen years in Chicago and I will tell you when I came here. I was stunned by just how much people hate. Jews. And I'm curious you I. I mentioned this to a former colleague at the Tribune recently and his response. He's in his eighties. He said we'll of course you grew up at a different time You know it's no surprise to me but yeah of course you didn't realize I'm just curious if this was a real shock to your system as you were doing the reporting the idea that Jews are hated was never foreign to me. I mean keep in mind. I'm fifty one and so I grew up where the Holocaust was not that far off. I mean I was raised in the seventies so I guess it was still thirty years old but it was not as it is now sixty plus years old where the next generation of people don't even know it was there Growing UP IN CHICAGO BEING JEWISH WAS It was not something to be celebrated at least among my friends and among my peers. I was made fun of for it a few times. It wasn't I didn't grow up in the midst of it but the Holocaust was connected to us in a way that it was very very real and so for that reason I understood that Jews were absolutely despised and I started making films in my first film that had anything to do with Jewish subjects was around two thousand and two or so and you know it was about Eastern European Jewish life before the war. So we're talking about you. Know all black and white footage of shuttles of Warsaw of what we might call the Yiddish world and that whole world is utterly destroyed in Eastern Europe and in Europe and in Russia and that made it pretty easy to see and in doing that film I started to learn about it. I automate fillmore at antisemitism in the media in the Middle East at one point and you realize that it is it is widespread. There's Anti Semitism where there are Jews. There's antisemitism where there are not Jews. There's Anti Semitism among people who are friends with Jews so my awareness of this has grown so in other words you entered into this project knowing there was a history of this but you had never seen it kind of in the current context as well. I had not seen it the way I see it now. I when I made a film in two thousand seven on antisemitism in the in the in the arab-islamic world per particularly North Africa and the Middle East I didn't focus that much on Europe and the US at the time antisemitism in the US was a very minor issue compared to what it is now. I don't want to say it was minor because there were plenty of people experiencing antisemitism but we didn't have it to the magnitude and we didn't have the Internet the way we do now but I knew that it was alive and well in the Middle East and that was surprising to see just how deep it is just how woven into the fabric of conversation and media it is. I was interviewing some kids in Egypt on the street and I said to them what are Jews they said User Satan Jews are evil. Juice should die. I said what if a Jewish kid was walking right here across the street and got hit by a car. They said we would call an ambulance. These two ideas existed right next to each other. And that's what's so interesting. One is in the abstract one is in the day to day Would you say that abstract versus day day is what's also infecting Western Europe United States? This wave of anti-semitism that we're seeing or is it. Is it very different? I think they crossover so for example. In Hungary there's virtually no violence against Jews In Hungary a survey showed that forty percent. Forty two percent of Hungarians held at least one or more anti Semitic views. Does that mean that? The people by larger anti-semites probably not but it means that the numbers are higher. Those numbers were higher than they were anywhere else in Europe or give or take a country. How many countries are there in Europe? A lot right so but there's no violence against Jews physical violence. That's what I mean physical violence against Jews but those lines do tend to cross over at points and so the fear is that it can translate these nationalist movement so in Hungary just to give some context the government has launched a huge campaign against George. Soros it's on Mute right now. It's not running right now but it ran not too long ago during the European Union elections. It came back up again. I asked one of the spokespeople of Hungary will come back and he told me that it would come back in a very consistent way so the whole idea that the Hungarian government has put forth. Is that this Jewish billionaire. George Soros is out to flood the nation with Muslim immigrants and since Muslim immigrants in the eyes of the Hungarian government are bad. You the Hungarian citizen the White Christian Hungarian citizen are in danger. And you're in danger because of a Jew. So here's these people are all worked up about a Jew who actually isn't doing anything like this but yet at the same time they're not vandalizing. All the Jewish shops are not beating Jews. And what have you? Although there's I've heard some rumblings that a little of that has happened so we'll have to see but I'm no expert on the data right. Well I think that's the argument. I mean argument. Deborah Lipstadt makes in the film. For example it starts with words it starts with comments and then does eventually escalate. That's the danger of not addressing it nipping in the bud. When you see. I think that's here right so I think that in America we've seen rage on the Internet translate into violence than I think you know the hatred in Hungary is really a government media campaign which took place on TV on the radio on the Internet. But also on billboards outside it was like an all encompassing life. You would drive down the street and you'd be bombarded with it here This antisemitism isn't billboards. I mean there's we'd see them occasionally but it's all on the Internet and people get the Internet sort of like you and your computer. You Lock yourself in this little space and then you start to get worked up and you start to hate and so we see that. Not all but many of these. Violent attacks in the United States are people who sort of incubated these ideas on the Internet. You raise a good point billboards in Hungary that was the been the vehicle of communication there for that. Soros campaign but I'm curious what about social media. What about the comments in violence on social media is it just as rampant in places like Hungary as it is here we'll so the makeup and the nature of the of the campaign in Hungary? We didn't break down so I don't know what percentage of it certainly on social media and not only was it on social media is a place where people can share about it right so in addition to whatever the government put on social media because the government had all these different forms they had radio they had. Tv They billboards aid magazines. It's social media mailings mailing mailing which is in the film How much of their media mix was the Internet? I don't know but if you're a person with anti Semitic views you can't do anything with billboard but some people did right hateful messages on billboards with magic markers in pain. They actually vandalize them. But by and large the billboards are you don't interact with them in the billboard. Don't post against back and forth a TV commercial. You don't respond to that. The Internet is where everybody took their hatred in their dislike of George Soros and they brought it to the Internet. And I think that's a place where you would see a lot more of this. Anti Jewish rhetoric the Internet is where it becomes the People's action not the government right. You have obsession in the film that talks about the brief history of blaming Jews. And you talk about the films that you've done in the past and the history of this but one critique of the film that I've read is that doesn't include enough historical context now I hear this critique all the time as a journalist you only have so much space or time right to address the whole of a situation but I'm curious what your thoughts are on whether to include more history or trajectory. The history of antisemitism is extremely complex. It grows out of misinterpretations if that's a word of people misinterpreted biblical scripture. It's changed and it's more throughout the centuries throughout Europe. If you WANNA talk about how it's been a part of the story of Christianity knew very thorny and complicated history which takes a long time to get in and out of now take that for a minute and think about. We have limited shelf space in our movie. I always say to people in movies not a casserole but take that from it in a notice that in the film we have that history. We have extensive history of the civil rights movement in the United States with history of the entire Orban's campaign and where that came from in Hungary in Oregon was we talk all about a migration and the history of colonialism in France as to give the backbone of that in England we talk about the Labor Party going all the way back to two thousand and eight. What we don't do is this deep analysis of Christian history but my response is also this. If I make a film about racism in about how African Americans are being shot in the street by police. Do I need to tell you? The history of why blacks are disliked by racists in this country. If I talk about misogyny do I need to tell you? The history of why people are misogynists to me and the same goes for LGBTQ. Americans no one's asking why. Why do I need to get into the fact of why Trans People are being murdered? Right now are being beaten up. I don't need to analyze that. Well that too comes from the Bible. Right hatred of homophobia grows right out of scripture. But I don't need to give that analysis so it's a it. We talk about double standards and antisemitism and I don't want to say this is anti Semitism but it's almost a reflex that people feel like anything has to do with Jews. With antisemitism with Israel has to be held to some type of second order of scrutiny and I found that a little bit frustrating. There've been some debates on college campuses about whether or not Jewish students who are pro. Israel can join feminist marches. Lgbtq right marches. You other causes. They feel excluded from those causes because of their Zionist positions and so. That's where intersection. -ality has come up a lot in conversations here is how do you address that exclusion? Even though it's very different causes communities have gotten together and there has not been room for the Jewish issue of antisemitism has four complicated reasons not been welcome into that crew. Because many in this left is idea. Do not like how they don't like what's going on with the Arab Israeli conflict let's not even parse the Israeli conflict. Unfortunate part of this. Is that a Jewish students who have nothing to do with Israel who are oblivious to Israel are still being singled out now. It's very dangerous to to assume. Length phrases like colleges are a battleground. We visited colleges as we spoke to a lot of students. It's a very complicated and mixed bag. But there's no doubt that on some college campuses and we don't have hard data on how or where or what we have a lot of anecdotes. We have a lot of very upset parents. We have a lot of very upset students. But what that actually translates into numbers. We don't know what we do know. Is that Jewish? Students are being asked to somehow be called to task for what Israel is said to be
Supreme Court Pipeline Fight Could Disrupt The Appalachian Trail
"We're going to spend the next few minutes talking about Supreme Court case and the group that feels caught between the two sides. If it's ever built the Atlantic coast pipeline would run six hundred miles and carry natural gas from West Virginia North Carolina and Virginia. Between Start Finish is a big physical barrier the Blue Ridge mountains and what has become a potential legal barrier the Appalachian trail environmental groups who oppose the pipeline have challenged the legality of a forest service permanent allowing the pipeline to cross the trail. The people who manage the trails say that challenge took them by surprise and they warn the ruling in favor of those environmental groups could up in the trails complicated management structure. Npr's Becky Sullivan explains Do you want to uh. Let's go this way earlier. This month I came out to the spot on the trail where the Atlantic coast pipeline may one day cross. It's about an hour west of Charlottesville right up on a mountain ridge. The George Washington National Forest. The trail is just a dirt footpath winding through trees. That are all bear because it's February from up here you can see out into the valley to the north. I met Andrew Downes a senior regional director for the Appalachian Trail Conservancy. That's the private organization that oversees the day to day management of the trail the coordinates efforts between federal and state agencies and the boots on the groundwork of regional groups and volunteers. So the the orange you think that orange flags are marking this. It's it's about in the right area and I've been out here probably a dozen times as we're walking along the trail. Andrew Downes wants to make one thing clear the Appalachian Trail. Conservancy is not opposed to this pipeline. They don't support it but they also don't oppose that's not to say that there aren't direct impacts from Atlanta 'cause pipeline to the show there are our analysis led us to the conclusion that the scope and range of those impacts did rise to the level requiring opposition for one the pipeline would cross under the trail about seven hundred feet underground it would enter and exit on private land off the national forest. You would see a clear pathway around the pipeline off in the distance and if we were standing in True Wilderness Andrew. Johns says that might be caused for but standing on the trail here. It's not exactly wilderness. We're looking at. The view is already dotted with what he calls impacts houses roads fields all sorts of things cutting through the trees below all the visual impacts that we see for the you know this kind of wilderness experience. The best way to do that is for all those things not to exist in this natural enforced in landscape. But the reality is you know. We're here. The Blue Ridge Parkway here people's homes are here and this is part of the society we live in the Appalachian trail. Conservancy runs on this kind of pragmatism. It's part of the deal when you're coordinating multiple federal and state agencies with the effort of thirty plus regional clubs and thousands of volunteers. The conservancy has been doing this work for almost a century so well before the Appalachian trail was brought under federal management as part of the national trails system in the nineteen sixties. But they were not part of this litigation what happens is is people want to stop a pipeline oftentimes for good reasons and they. WanNa use every tool available To do that. The question before the court centers around who is allowed to grant a permit for pipeline like this on federal land because the pipeline would cross the trail in a national forest the four service granted permits the pipeline company. The Forest Service doesn't have the authority to grant a permit across the National Park and though the trail is managed day today by the Appalachian Trail. Conservancy it is technically a part of the National Park. System Noah Sachs is a professor of environmental law at the University of Richmond. He's been watching this case so if in fact the Appalachian trail is part of the national park system then the Forest Service had no authority to authorize this tunneling underneath it for the Atlantic coast pipeline. That's the argument and environmental group. Used to challenge the Forest Service permit the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals agreed and they revoked the permit. The pipeline company has appealed. So that's really the crux of the issue. That's before the Supreme Court on Monday. The issue of on the ground authority over the Appalachian trail has never been questioned in this way before. Trail officials say this worries them because of the way they manage the trail because it causes so many different kinds of lands federal state parks forest even some privately owned land. The Appalachian trail conservancy has relied on decades of precedent policies and understanding. In order to do its work. It's not that it would all come crashing down tomorrow. But Supreme Court ruling could potentially trigger along bureaucratic process if reexamining and reestablishing many of the policies and procedures that have effectively been in place for more than fifty years and that process could disrupt the trails everyday management needs until her retirement last December Rita. Hennessy was the administrator of the national trail system. That's the office within the park. Service that oversees these types of national trails. The Fourth Circuit's ruling in two thousand eighteen caught her by surprise the fact that it was identifying the Appalachian trail corridor as part of the National Park Service. That's what was most surprising that that's not how we have managed the national trails system for fifty years. And is he told me. She immediately worried about the domino effects when I asked how a Supreme Court decision to uphold might affect the administration of the Appalachian Trail and is he reeled off a series of policies that could be thrown into doubt issues of environmental compliance land-management acquiring lands trail maintenance volunteer use. You get the idea. She'll be watching the arguments Monday with some nervousness because any decision by the Supreme Court could change things for the trail you know having worked with national trails for my whole thirty year career and beyond that it it. It's something that's out there that that is just looming and were not sure how it's going to be decided. The trail conservancy says they are already seen complications. From the case they say the four service recently asked them to put on pause every trail maintenance project they had plans that would take place on national forest land. This summer the forest service declined to comment because of the ongoing litigation. The Southern Environmental Law Center is the Environmental Group leading the litigation in response to trail. Officials concerns attorney. Dj Gherkins says the question before the court is so narrow that it will not affect trail management. No one should worry that the outcome of this case is going to affect the cooperative management that has been part of the Appalachian trails success and should be going forward no matter how the court rules. It's not the end of the road for the Atlantic coast pipeline or for the environmental groups who oppose it. The pipeline company is lobbying Congress for a special permit and Gherkins. Group has won several other challenges to the pipeline. That will still pose obstacles regardless of how this case turns out for the trail. This is the big one Andrew Downes with the Appalachian Trail Conservancy. There are a lot of organizations who are focused on protecting the environment Litigating broad focused environmental issues and I applaud those folks but there's only one organization the whole world that's dedicated solely to the Appalachian trail and we have to make sure that our decision process reflects that that level of Focus. Because if it's not us that speak for the trail and only the trail in no one else will oral arguments for the case. Take place Monday. The court is expected to rule this summer becky Sullivan NPR
Washington: Virginia fornication law repeal one step closer to law
"There's some serious I want to talk to you about something that over the course of the last almost I four hundred episodes of hard factory kept from you guys at the Harto hive and it's not something we would like to talk about because the potential legal ramifications and honestly it's just a hot sticky mess sir but there's some impending legislation in our home state of Virginia and I think it's time we finally got the secret of our collective chests see. The thing is myself Mark Wes. US will and to a lesser extent. Commenter are all habitual criminals threat. We began a series of crimes while living in Virginia that began approximately nineteen ninety eight for some US and continued until two thousand eight when we moved to Texas suffice to say our behavior during that period was not in line with our state's name sick Shameful why we removed really yes. He says the beginning of our state of Virginia. The act of fornication also known as boning before marriage has been considered a class four misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up the two hundred fifty dollars per occurrence and hope it makes a little bit more sense now. Why we've kept our crimes from you guys because if the state find out I could as much as seven hundred fifty dollars in which we all know that I don't have? Yeah here's my allowance. But what is what is oral sex. Count as that's bad much. Actual Virginia Virginia was not a big fan of sodomy. Wait eighteen so I didn't have a ton of actual sex in Virginia. Yeah you came back Charlottesville. Count Him. Well I was Gosh but you were still you you were bad. Boy will but thank God guys because a new bill to repeal the crime fornication has finally finally early exonerate us as passed the Virginia House of delegates last week and one very horny delegating Mark Levin who introduced the bill so that the law funnels Virginia's confusion and distrust in the law if unmarried sex legal than what else is and another horn dog delegate mark sickles attempted to strike fornication from the Code of Virginia in twenty fourteen but it died in committee most likely because some no sex getting haters were jealous of Super Vinnie Vinnie administration was going to bring about the getting rid of the sex tax laws. It was the black face sexual assault. That's true in Virginia right. Now they're gonNA THEY'RE GONNA get rid of a lot of these ticky tacky rules my move back in the today. was I would whisper in the year. You want to commit a crime. Get a two hundred fifty dollars. Saved up two hundred fifty mark always always called his girlfriend cashier job
Five sue driver of trash truck struck by GOP train in 2018
"Two years after a train carrying Republican members of Congress collided with a garbage truck near Charlottesville five passengers have filed lawsuits against the truck driver the trash company and the train engineer thirty two year old Dana Naylor junior was acquitted of involuntary manslaughter after a trial in which authorities alleged he drove a garbage truck on the train tracks in January twenty eighteen the collision killed a trash company employee and severely injured another passenger in the truck Miller has been targeted by at least eight lawsuits since the
"charlottesville" Discussed on Skullduggery
"There are few people have been around longer in Democratic Party politics. Senate better insights into how to win and lose elections than Terry McAuliffe breath. He was for years. One of the top fundraisers for his good friends bill and Hillary Clinton and then later served as chair of the Democratic National Committee. He was elected Governor Virginia and was widely talked about as a possible twenty twenty presidential candidate last April after looking. Hard at a run McCall of took himself out of the race and now seems to have his sights on another run as governor but there are wildcards down the road including the growing prospect that the battle for the Democratic Arctic nomination may not be settled by the time the primaries are over and for the first time in modern memory there could be a brokered convention. Might there yet be McAuliffe. Boom went for president will discuss that and much more with McAuliffe himself on this episode of skulduggery because people have gotta know whether or not their president's across. I'm not a crop. I told the American people I did not trade trade arms for my heart and my best intentions. Still tell me that's true but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not I did not have sexual license without him there will be no lives. We will honor the American people with the Truth and nothing else. Terry.
"charlottesville" Discussed on Pod Save America
"And I do think that there are a lot of people in this country that like kind of like Trump's anti-establishment stuff, but it shows up in polls like I don't like the tweets. Well, the tweets are a big deal. Yeah. The win. The tweets are inspiring radical frightening violent people, then that should really rise to the top of your how your voting we've seen this happen before to his lowest approval ratings came after Charlottesville after the Helsinki press conference with Putin. Putin just moments where he has totally dropped the ball in the worst way in his role as leader as national unifier as president. I mean like. People in the country do want someone who's going to console them during times of tragedy who's going to try to bring the country together who's going to try to rise above parson politics. He can't do any of those things. He's a part time president we know this because we read all the stories like the guy has like literally three hours in the middle of the day routinely where he just does nothing but watch TV in tweet. Right. So we know that he's not doing the job. Generally, there's part. There's parts of us are like, oh, that's probably good that he's not more effective. But you know, you can't hide when you've completely abdicated your role as a moral leader or a sort of a healer for the country and do think Democrats in this last week should think about including in their message when they're on the stump. Like, it is it is Democrats job in a way because there's such a vacuum of leadership on the Republican side to show people what real leaders sound like and look like, and what real leaders, do, you know, like I keep thinking of Andrew gillum, you know, closing statement in his. Debate with Rhonda Santa's when he said, you know in Trump's America, we've been led to believe that we've got a step on our neighbor's shoulder and they're back in their face in order to get ahead. While I reject that. And I do think we got to give people a reminder of what you know, America can be when it has relievers were willing to rise above all this bullshit. You know, and you saw I mean, you saw some of this in the wake of Pittsburgh CBS reported that de Masella Berrios and his family drove to Pittsburgh from New York City as an African American family who were also first responders too the Emanuel AME shooting in Charleston, and he said, you know, all faith communities. No matter nationality or race need to stick together. And support each other in times like these there was the leader of an Islamic center in Pittsburgh announces that the Muslim community has raised more than seventy thousand dollars synagogue attack victims, and of course, think about the Jewish center itself in that in the Jewish organization that was helping refugees were Muslims of that. We're targets the attack. Like, there's there's good in this country. And I think Democrats have to remind. People of what that isn't as final week. Just a real quick point on the refugees. I mean, Trump has demagogued the the concept of helping out refugees he isn't made that somehow an evil or bad thing. Right. Because he claims they're all ISIS. I mean, when you think like the history of the Jewish people were stateless, you know, who've had to flee the most horrific thing could ever imagined in the holocaust..
"charlottesville" Discussed on Pod Save America
"Yeah. During the campaign, he tweeted a picture of Hillary Clinton superimposed on a star of David over dollar bills after Julia published a profile of Milania, which the White House didn't like she was del used with antisemitic threats. Trump was asked to condemn those attacks on Yawkey from his supporters, and he said, quote, I don't have a message for them. And of course, as you pointed out, the worst example, Charlottesville people marching in Charlottesville. Chanting Jews will not replace us. And Donald Trump saying there were fine people on both sides. I want a reporter. This is very simple to ask Donald Trump asked Sarah Huckabee Sanders, ask anyone at the White House today does the president still believe. That the people in Charlottesville who were chanting Jews will not our place us. We're fine people that there were fine people among those margin. I want someone to ask them that question. Because if they really say he's not anti-semitic that he condemns kind of attacks that he condemns the kind of hate that leads to these tax than than they will answer the president. That's know what I don't believe. They were find people. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that. But he won't because he hasn't because nothing has changed since Charlottesville. The only thing that's changed is somehow like the news move so fast. Our collective memory doesn't really remember the fact that in Charlottesville, he issued these horrible horrible statements and has not apologized for them. I mean, there was an article last year where I think the independent of the UK Trump suggested that Jews might be secretly committing antisemitic hate crimes on themselves. So that he looks at I forgot about that. I mean, Adam Serwer who writes for the Atlantic wrote? I think as crystal clear a piece about how the spark for the worst antisemitic massacre in America. History was a racist hoax. That was kind of came through the weird Twitter ecosystem through Lou Dobbs. Then got on FOX and friends and then got to the president. And he decided that he was going to demagogue a caravan desperate people because he thought it was going to be an election issue that inspired this individual to do what he did. Yeah. Period. You know, I keep thinking like the Republican line is well, no one can control what their supporters do on either side. And there's there's rhetoric on both sides that's gotten out of hand. Right. But what would we be saying right now, if these perpetrators of these crimes are this hate, and this violence that we've seen over the last week or Muslim exactly what would we be doing? If there was a connection ties, wouldn't we say that that ISIS propaganda inspired some of these people who said, I'm doing this in the name of ISIS, which we've seen all the time, of course. And we'd be calling on every single Muslim on the planet to denounce this act into do better somehow into somehow fix. The problem. I mean, the these these people are these right wingers are incapable of looking within their party within themselves and seeing the harm that's being created here..
"charlottesville" Discussed on The Brookings Cafeteria
"Of excluded communities nationwide. Well, after Charlottesville, I want people to focus on the statues of policies that are just as permanent or impermanent. As many of the confederate statues, we still have criminal Justice laws in this country that need to be taken down. There's no question about it. We still have underfunded schools and school funding formulas that need to be taken down. You know, we still have school districts district lines that keep funding from getting to educating white folks to stop being racist. These things need to be taken down. And so after Charlottesville, I hope that we learned that these are statues, but there are policies that are more damaging on the everyday lives of black Brown people in this country. And finally, community said again, who ties together various strands of this conversation, the system of racial violence and stratification then enters apart from Charlottesville the way we acknowledge fail to our history and what kinds of public policy solutions are needed to move forward in this country. What I think has been lacking in the conversation around Charlottesville and post Charlottesville is really, as I mentioned earlier, an acknowledgement about the brutality of racially stratified, economic and social system. And if Americans had ten minutes to spend to reflect on Charlottesville, I do think though thing that they should do is spend some time looking online at the national memorial for peace and Justice, which opened in April of twenty eight teen, and which depicts our history of lynching and other brutality, and then in terms of how do we move forward? Well, you know, I do think that as we're thinking about race relations in the US, there are couple of different things that I think are important first thing is, and a lot of my work is really focused on this is that I just don't think they're enough efforts to try to reach across the communities that you're not part of. And to the extent that Americans on their own. You can do that through community organizations or volunteering or whatever. I think that that's really important from a political perspective. However, in a policy perspective, I do think it's going to be very important for us to think through particularly on the local regional and state levels. How do we address the fact that we have very isolated and segregated residential communities which are now not only segregated residential, but they're segregated in terms of experience segregated in terms of social networks are segregated in terms of kind of media that they consume. So I think we step back and think about policy solutions. We need to be intentional about Halsey solutions that try to break those kinds of silos. And I think that's best achieved at something other than the national level because people live in communities and they live in neighborhoods..
"charlottesville" Discussed on The Brookings Cafeteria
"There are communities like Charlottesville newly aware of the implications of the memorials they have placed in their public spaces, and it is a great debate how to handle his memorials because their existence is actually also part of our history. We need not wipe out. The fact that we, for many years proclaims the grandeur of generals who fought a war to defend the ownership of human beings. So we don't wanna wipe out that history because it's important to recall that is how we saw our own history. There's a real role for historians in this time to talk about how we can fact check the public history while at the same time we're calling the ways in which we have told ourselves myths that were in fact very corrosive to the public good. And I think that those conversations are ongoing. So how do communities if they want to change the way that commemorate their own history without a some fear erasing it. Here's Andre Perry after Charlottesville. There's an interesting phenomenon university of. Jinya dedicated a building in the name of one of their first graduates. Vivian pin Dr. Vivian pin has a tremendous record in the medical community. She use a director and I h served as the head of many academic departments. She's a legend in the medical field. They named a building after, and I think it's not enough to just take confederate statues down what are we going to put up? What are we going to represent in their place? And so communities really do need to come together and think about what represents our democracy. Because clearly a confederate monument did not represent the moxie, but there are people and symbols that do and if time passes and we determined that those folks really did not then take them down, but clearly we can do better than confederate monuments. And also nessa Williams. So I was recently visiting the National Cathedral here in Washington DC, which is a cordial monument that brings together both Christian imagery but also imagery of American history. There are monuments to Lincoln, and there are monuments to Washington, and for a long time, there have been two stained glass windows that celebrated Robert Lee and stonewall Jackson. Well, after the events in Charlottesville the church voted to remove those windows and replace them. And if you visit the National Cathedral today, there are rows of utilise stained glass windows and two pieces of plywood. And so this is still a debate, right? What's going to go in that place? And I think both contextualising frankly, in some cases, simply removing monuments to the great gallantry of white supremacist army is a good idea, but that's not a task that's complete yet. Right? There's actually another monument even within the National Cathedral to Robert Lee. There's an embroidered nealer which you kneel on when you're in a pew, celebrates him alongside the Naylor's. Celebrate every president. The United States ever had alongside nealer for Harriet Tubman. So there's this interesting period of transition that we live in, and I think we both need to revise the way in which we call the confederacy in particular. But also we need to bring back in it enormous history that we have lost. If you visit Germany in train stations on public streets apartment buildings, there are plaques that recall the.
"charlottesville" Discussed on The Brookings Cafeteria
"Vanessa, Williamson focused on the contemporary role of the black lives matter movement and bringing to the fore the ways black and other non white Americans are living today with racial violence and also how the election of the nation's first black President. Barack Obama though only did not mean racial issues were silenced in America, but in fact, shifted racial attitudes in a more extreme direction. I think black lives matter has played a really critical role in connecting the dots between what we see in policing and mass incarceration today and the long history of state violence against black people. I think there's been. Awakening, particularly among white Americans, to the extent of that history to the extent to which that history is still with us. And so the other way in which black lives matter and Charlottesville sort of interrelated. In addition to this, creating of new visibility of the, it's into it, racial violence still pervades this country. We're in a period of racial reaction. Now, it's very clear that for a set of white conservative people, the election black president was very frightening. Proxima said he was bringing change from any people that was message of hope for some people, it was not. They did recognize the change. They just weren't very happy about it. And since that time there has been sort of in ongoing reaction. I think that certainly the Trump presidency makes a part of and some of that, I think dates not just the election of a black president, but to the visibility of black political movement. That was focused very specifically on the ways in which state act. Ters have oppressed ethnic minorities in this country, right. I think the reaction that we've seen on the far right has been both to the electoral success of a black president, the proof that a multi-racial coalition could elect a president in this country now, but also and I think there's some evidence to suggest that twenty fourteen twenty fifteen is when you start to see some of that shift to sort of kind of racial conservatism as a real motivator, people's political attitudes. It's also part of this response to a powerful black political movement. A New York Times. CBS news poll in twenty nine just after President. Obama assumed office showed that about two thirds of Americans deemed race relations to be generally good in two thousand sixteen as President. Obama ended his second term that same poll found nearly seventy percent of Americans thought race relations were mostly bad. Entre Perry also spoke to the seeming contradiction between the election of a black president and the fact that this event didn't resolve issues. Racism. In fact, Perry says that many white people don't want to admit that many of the mundane things. They do still have a negative impact on black people's lives. After the election of President Obama, there was this wanting particularly among white folk and particularly around middle-class folk to say that the problems that exist social problems that exist in America are those of class and not race that we've overcome racism in America that the election of an African American president is a sign that anything is possible. Well, if you're black, you live in Baltimore. We know that that's not true that people prejudge and do not provide opportunities to those who are black and the folks who are burdened with that reality are clear that racism is still alive and well. And so yes, more white folk than most are those that want to believe that racism is over because they can benefit from that ignorance doesn't do. Black folk any good to believe that racism doesn't exist. Because again, we feel it every day in a pocket books. You can look at wage differentials. You can look at homeownership. You can look at the cabinet of the United States of America. You can look at different agencies. You see it every day. The wild black hashtag is really a reflection of what we've known. All along people will call the police like its customer service that you could sleep in a dorm. You could sit in Starbucks, you can drive, you can shop and people will soom the worst of you in what's worse in a lot of my research in this area, the same stereotypes we ascribe to people, we place upon entire cities. I'm from a small black borough inside of Pittsburgh Wilkins Berg. And there's a lot of beliefs about the potential of Wilkins Berg or the lack thereof and those cities..
"charlottesville" Discussed on The Brookings Cafeteria
"You had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent and nobody wants to say that, but I'll say right now, you had a group. You had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit, and they were very, very violent that was President Donald Trump at a press conference to discuss it infrastructure policy in Trump Tower on August fifteenth. He also said that there was blame on both sides as well as very fine people on both sides these remarks followed the president's initial prepared remarks deliver August twelve. And when she said, quote, we condemn in the strongest possible terms, this agreed display of hatred, bigotry in violence on many sides, many sides unquote. Where they're very fine people on the side of the alt-right, some of even called the actions of white supremacists a form of domestic terrorism. The scholars I spoke with agreed here's community again who said she has no hesitations about characterizing Charlottesville violence as domestic terrorism. I think we have here in the US pretty healthy, homegrown domestic terrorist culture in some corners of the u. s. and I do think that it's actually a culture that has a long historical legacy is obviously a domestic terrorist group. And even when people weren't organized that way, the fact that you could have lynchings of people without due process is clearly assign that we have a history of terrorism here. And so I feel like the white supremacists who were engaging in these actions in Charlottesville where part of one of the histories of the US in that respect on repair Christmas agreed. I think white supremacy is a form of terrorism, and I think how we label terrorism is a form of white supremacy. The fact of the matter is we don't call the tax on black people. Terrorism is rife with problems. Black folk are terrorized every day in this country. Now we have the cell phone evidence to prove it. And so we try our best to hide the harsh realities that are imposed upon black people every day. And we excuse this terrorism away because white folk are doing it. I mean, but it's terrorism is trying to use intimidation to put certain people in their place or to move them out of existence or into another place. And that's happening all across the country. Once escalates to violence. I have a hard time seeing how it's not domestic terrorism in terms of if we're going to define terrorism as violence against civilians in the name of a political cause or ideology. I think within the legal framework that the United States has terrorism is really only something that can be applied to foreign terrorist groups for the most part. So it can be very difficult to prosecute domestic terrorism by groups that are not say affiliated with Al Qaeda or the Islamic state. But in terms of the spirit of what terrorism actually is, I don't know how you look at some of these groups and the violence that they're carrying out and not conclude that it was politically motivated in some fashion. So I do think that it's an appropriate label for the kind of violence that we're seeing. I asked Chris to consider whether we can apply lessons from programs designed to prevent.
"charlottesville" Discussed on The Brookings Cafeteria
"I do not think that tros will wasn't one on. I think it's one in a long, long history of very dangerous, racial relations. And it's just the the most recent manifestation of that. And I think at its crocs what the Charlottesville protests symbolized was the fact that we, as a nation have done, absolutely nothing to aknowledge the brutality, the torture, the kind of terrorism that assistant based on a racially stratified society has led to. We have failed to really acknowledge that as a society. And as a result of that, you still have these episodes that. That pop up every so often that seem so surprising. This is the Brookings cafeteria podcast. I'm Fred dues, August, eleven, twelve, twenty seventeen white nationalists Neo confederates in Neo Nazis marched Charlottesville Virginia. With the stated intention of opposing the removal of a statue confederate general Robert early in the city's emancipation park. During those two days we witnessed these members of the so-called alt-right carrying torches chanting, Nazi slogans like blood and soil in clashing with counter protesters. Many people who turned out to oppose them are injured and a woman named Heather higher. It was there to stand up for diversity was killed by a man linked to white supremacist groups. After he rammed his car into the crowd. In the special edition of the Brookings cafeteria, four Brookings experts share their views on the events of that weekend. How history and public memory inform where we are today address. The question of white supremacy is domestic terrorism and look ahead to how we can do better. You heard from one of them at the start of this episode, Camille be set who was Brookings senior fellow and directs the race prosperity inclusion initiative. And you'll also hear from Christmas role, Andrea Perry, and Vanessa, Williamson, and the next episode of the Brookings cafeteria by colleague, Bill fine and director of the Brookings Institution press speaks with author and Peru, college professor, Thomas main on his new book, the rise of the alt-right visit our website.
"charlottesville" Discussed on KARN 102.9
"Young man from early twenties from was it england arkansas award and here's charlottesville for them bega confederate minute protest last summer and he's found guilty for a beaten up a fellow who happened to be a different ethnicity than him and as far as i'm concerned throw the book at him regardless of whose skin is white black brown yellow red whatever throw the book at him but are you concerned does it trouble you that there's this liberal up there in north west arkansas who's in state legislature say if you're a black person who wants to make it but wants to go easy on somebody wants to go easy on somebody who attacks you if they're the same color that you are most throw the book at somebody's a different color was that seem right as a gentleman just call up and said all crimes violence or hate crimes you don't attack somebody 'cause you love them you don't kill somebody because you love him beat somebody up because you love them is all hey doesn't matter whether you stray gate i can't get it straight no matter whether you straight or gay or what color you are what color your victims.
"charlottesville" Discussed on We The People
"Thank you good to be here wonderful let's jump bright in bird it was a lawsuit by the aclu against the city of charlottesville that led eventually to the riots can you tell us about the facts of the case and why the aclu sued the city for attempting to suppress the unite the rights first amendment right to free assembly by moving them to a different park well it it was something back i must say wondering retreated and could be treated with you on you kind of garden variety mike it was a particularly uh pathbreaking event i must have brought this fit by shellfish nec on hugh royer twenty five or thirty times in my career um group wants to have our um the demonstration and um for the demonstration views potentially lower potentially raucous and may go to the authorities may say the vehicle parties will you give us a promise to have this many people gathering the farc and often though the saudisino you know i there to him uh it's too much cobble worth two hours i'm not sure that job the guy they don't necessarily like the people who were coming um but th you'd be amazed how many times when someone go to a local uh pop politics political figure in sort of like like a farming the answer is no fish yo you respond to that almost reflexively and serious look um the constitution provides lighting for your sampling um the streets and the parks belong to the people.
"charlottesville" Discussed on ECLECTICIST
"Okay now i would argue that um and it may be i i don't have grounds to argue but i didn't do something reprehensible about not valuing truth uh and lying all the time hang on a minute who's not valuing truth trump and you're making out amount of a sweeping assumptions here i making assumptions based on a lot of things these terror he said he in fact any allies all the giants the truth who does for instance in the trump for instance in the charlottesville episode a few days ago he was talking about the truth of the event and that you know he wants to act on the facts and that's why he said there were violence on both sides or many sides because that's what he had seen on the video that he was presented with and he didn't you know he couldn't save was only violence from one side even though that may have been the most politically expedient thing to say at the time he won't he said he wanted the facts so you know he makes noises to suggest that he does consider faxed to have value i okay but i mean that that's your take on situation but considering he lies all the time i don't think that he's nothing oldest win because so many last night on july all the tac does you're you're making a mess no he malkey generalized does jeff he just lies all the time so he he yes he does yes he does he lies all the climate on because all was when the everything he says is alive when the facts don't su everything he says is obviously of everything but when the fact that not all the time jeff disappointing to semantics when the facts don't suit him he will lie about them until lot until he could no longer lie about them a good example is this whole russian business like him and all his surrogates were all was lying about what kind of relations relationship they had with russia and what their dealings were until they could no longer lie and then they would start admitting stuff when lying they now.
"charlottesville" Discussed on Charisma News
"Earlier this month the city of charlottesville virginia was the site of a racist protests that spiralled out of control and led to the murder of an innocent civilian in the wake of this tragedy christian leaders spoke out against hatred and oppression find out more after this break journey interrupted is a film about how five people's lives were affected by their pursuit of identity it's a compassionate film beginning with their childhood stories of abuse and identity confusion which led to an identity outside of biblical sexuality as you watch this film begin your own journey of compassion and understanding as jesus walks with them from beginning to end share with these individuals as you here you matter you belong and you are loved go to journey interrupted dot com earlier this month a statue of confederate general robert e lee was removed in charlottesville virginia this move prompted a group of white nationalist going by the name unite the right to gather at the university of virginia with torches and march for their cause it has been called the largest whitesupremicist event since the civil rights era marchers shouted slogans like white lives matter and blood and soil the protesters gathered again on saturday this time encountering counterprotesters who opposed the fascist and racist rhetoric of unite the right the two sides fought and a speeding car driven by a white supremacist rammed into the antiracist protestors killing one woman and injuring at least nineteen others.
"charlottesville" Discussed on NWAP
"Today so boston with dishes that right i think it's deeper than that because canceling well why was not a like a police military presence in charlottesville when there was in baltimore or than was in in ferguson is because you know those police departments federal funding any get it to get these type of tactical military gear so they had standby i guess he shows it doesn't have actually not that i could the nice at the strike that the like oh this on all these lewis always later away or eight colo let let them finish and then so ferguson baltimore uh these are cities dinner majorityblack right so be fleet departments are going to hatch that is on standby ready for the vim ship pops off so i'm not saying day you know the anything had it they would use it on why people but that's why you see so really available in places like was'more uh let's watch surrogate that's acts because i feel like with the ferguson gil it was a lotta coming nda quickly i think they definitely moved more quickly against a black protest crowds but i kinda get what you're saying that in an area like charlottesville it's like it's hunky dory year nothing's happened so we don't really need all that so the machete that metalmakers biggest bumped up in so because this is aiming hawes down ends as we recedes fucking mike youth right and nation other people at their schools but some i responded to.
"charlottesville" Discussed on On One with Angela Rye
"There may be something you all don't know about charlottesville it just may be the path forward for us to really achieve freedom in this country there's a segment that i'm gonna play for you from democracy now with amy goodman and here she's interviewing charlottesville vicemayor west bellamy who i have to have on this program this fascinating brother molly plan a small snippet of what he said on this program but it is amazing brother we applaud you for your courage and for the work that you're doing in charlottesville and beyond but west bellamy talks about not just the removal of the robert elise statue in charlottesville he also talks about the work he's doing on an equity package in charlottesville yes pay attention an equity package because that right there major key alert listen to this clip westbound me welcome to democracy now can you talk about when your original pushed to have the roberty lee statue taken down and what you ultimately guy that isn't talked about as much which is some kind of some kind of funds for reparations so this all started nearly a year and a half ago in march of last year i received several different phone calls emails there was a petition from us local student here in the area about effort in a push to remove the statue of roberty lee people in charlotte will have been talking about this for some years but just last year there was a new once in a bill that was vetoed at the state house by our governor that essentially said that if you want to move these kind of statues and things of that nature is a local issue so you have the right to be able to do so my colleague and i miss christa seko's we both decided to push really hard who held a press conference in which they were probably about one hundred fifty people who came out.
"charlottesville" Discussed on WTMA
"Charlottesville and some people have called tonight on it we haven't gone to them because we've had we had a very thorough discussion on a yesterday but will bring it up again where people said look what's going on with what's going on charlottesville was not ripe verses laughed it was left purses laughed if you're not see you're not conservative notts be in a nazi and heavy the nazi mindset is the opposite of being a conservative 'cause you here while they're trying to label all conservatives we'll conservatives aren't nazis the philosophy is completely different the philosophy of individualism the philosophy of freedom the of velocity of freedom the philosophy of free markets the lhasa fee of less government is the opposite of being a nazi as we call it nazi socialism whatever and wherein the nazis were going and what the intent of what they wanted to do when germany was it's complete opposite now one may be more government control by a certain color skin of people but that's the only difference it simply just government control and we want governmentcontrolled to protect and promote this skin color or this ethnicity that's what they believe but it's more government and more control any conservative sliced libertarian is completely against that one thousand percent against that so it's not even conservative to begin with and that's why we said then and we brought that up on yesterday show and that's why we set overall when you look at at at this this is really it's the left versus the laughed when it comes to government control and the left today simply represents black nationalism is what they're promoting i mean we can go back to the two thousand eight your heart and see in denver and remember how the so called anarchist showed up all wearing the same thing yeah let's not an arcane and we were we just you know again there was driven by the left yes but you look at the eu you look at the violence it's commit committed out there which the end the violence is about what the violence is that comes consistently from the left the overly well lien will lead a number of violent protests riots destruction trying to stop free speech it all comes from the left and what.
"charlottesville" Discussed on The Editors
"Define the the outright there's been more attention to steve bannon and some on the left and even even some republicans have argued well in live charlottesville have to fire steve bannon a stephen miller and mike anton because all these guys are all right and or white supremacists i think that there is a case for firing steve bannon independently for more happen in charlottesville and i think the temptation to conflate the two things can give us less of an understanding as to what's happening in america rather than more steve bannon committed in my view a grave error of judgement when he said that he wanted to create a forum for the old right that's what breitbart did and it wasn't pleasant uh there are many people who contributed who are just more nationalist than i am there are many people who contributed who are terrible terrible human beings who believe horrendous things who don't believe in the declaration of independence and who are at heart trolls and i don't think that merely seeing a business opportunity which i presume is balance excuse is good enough he is in some way responsible for bringing people who should be living under rocks in to the forefront does that make him a nazi the which is the argument i've had night i don't think that he does uh i don't think that stephen miller is a white supremacist them now i did think michael anton is a white supremacist.
"charlottesville" Discussed on Pod Save the People
"Re charlottesville police went in the cleared the park in about eleven minutes and then of course they scattered throughout the city but as i say no damage nobody went to the hospital with injuries except for and as you know the ray it's impossible to stop a deranged individual uh a murderer who will get his car and i believe when it finally comes out he fully intended to use his car is a weapon and the only people injured that went to the hospital were from that currents that but for that uh we'd be having a different conversation here today and then unfortunately is of course a one of our state police helicopters went down and we don't know the circumstances behind that but uh so we had three fatalities one of them directly related uh to the all right white supremacy group and you know if you look at the blogs and you look on what's being said that the gentleman had written papers about neonazism and so forth so you know listen um we're stronger today the ray because of them they came here they lost and they've made a stronger as i said in the churches today this is a time of reconciliation and i know it's heard uh after something like this it's really hard for me i lost two very good friends uh last night but this is the time uh it is hard in the face of evil but we have to come together as a nation in work together everybody is up you know equal opportunity due process.