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"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

Post Show Recaps

05:37 min | 1 year ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

"Podcast ON PO show recaps? I'm your host Josh. I'm joined here by my fellow host. Joe Gar Fine Joe. I'll got the car. They're all dead. I'm sorry I'm I'm in therapy right now to my former self. I mean week in and week out that is effectively what I do. It's maybe not quite so tangible and visceral but that is like a glimpse into my sight. It's like Oh yeah. I'm constantly at war with pass. Josh regulars I mean it's maybe one of my favorite scenes of the entire year so far let alone the entire show westworld. Yeah I I have some interviews up for this episode of over at the Great. Hollywood reporter T. H. R. dot com slash Westworld. I got to win this week. One with Tessa Thompson. Who obviously had a very big episode here in Deco Herranz episode six of season three also one with Ed Harris? Enjoy gotTA say Harris. Used to be so when I was when I was a lot younger when I was in college. I like man crushed rather hard on Ed Harris. I just loved Ed Harris in anything. I used to have a sign on my door in college. That said do not enter without permission. Unless you're Jack Bauer Ed Harris so as either Jack. Bauer the fictional character or Ed Harris the actor. And that's how much I loved Ed Harris Back in College for the first time I ever interviewed him. I think was perceived in two of Westworld is very wordy and he's very quick and to the point he has a reputation for being like kind of like a no nonsense. No Bullshit type guy and I guess like maybe. I didn't fully understand that. The percents always very intimidated during my first interview with him then I interviewed him a few months afterwards. Knowing more what to expect that it was it was definitely a few leaps forward and quality of conversation and then this past week was the third time that I spoke with him. He was like very kind empathetic with me being a New Yorker in the middle of the global epidemic. And everything. And you know. Ask You questions about what's happening. At seven PM with New Yorkers cheering for the helpers and everything like that that's nice but he was still very wordy and he was also deeply deeply honest. This is a man who is very very very honest about his experiences and when it came to westworld he without like any provocation for me repeatedly offered up like I didn't really enjoy myself this season. I like playing the man in black. I don't know who this guy is. It was hard to enjoy. It is kind of frustrating. I think he said at one point a little bit aggravating. To be honest with you and I was I was on the other side of the microphone dirt by phone call him just like smiling ear to ear. Harris more like you please like somebody who clearly has a good heart good moral compass and also just like slices through the bullshit. That's Ed Harris Ladies and germs and understandable for a guy who signed on for Westworld. I think thinking he was just going to be sort of a subverted version of the man in black the gunslinger from from the movie. Who's the scary evil host in the film? And here he's burning that with it being like a human is the gunslinger and dangerous person. But they've obviously complicated the ARC quite a bit in like. He's a very complicated. Character is at the center of the mythologies. Maybe not being used in every episode the way that Ed Harris expected. He's not really in men in black mode anymore at least in terms of like the costume. So I don't think that he loves it and I told him I think your frustration with the experience probably helps you in terms of getting to where the characters is like. Oh Yeah Oh yeah absolutely. It's refreshing to hear him. Say That in his interviews because obviously has zero fs to give obviously expressed this to at least joy. Jonathan Nola like they know he's talking to lose his job. He's Ed Harris. He can say whatever he wants to anything say wait. I had a similar interview with New York magazine with vulture at one point. I think I think I edited this out of the of the of the official a but I think that I said to him something along the lines of like I mean I guess it sucks for you but it's good for the character right if you're frustrated like you can pour that into him and he goes. Yeah Oh yeah. This is definitely my problem. It's definitely a problem so definitely a much more. Readable version of that conversation exists at HR DOT com slash westworld and a really good one with Tessa Times as well. Who's talking about all the things that happened with? I think just for the sake of simplicity. Let's were calling her charlotte now. This is the new Charlotte hail a charlotte. Hail that would check in on her family. Which I suppose is the thing that gives up the game as for whether or not this Charlotte Hale is indeed Charlotte Hail. But obviously we're we're kind of in full spoiler mode for this episode now already enough filibuster for you. If for some reason you're wandering in here without having watched episode six yet but it was a doozy Joe. Charlotte told family blows up all the different Williams. Even if they're internal their deceased and I think like that's all she wrote for Hector Eschaton. I think finally I mean I just kept thinking of like South Park. They killed Kenny. He's not dead. I think he the first of all we talk about how she smashed the rain ball. I thought they'd be a little more solid than that. I guess you have like you know what kind of special powers robot royds Iran. Yeah.

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on TeeVee

TeeVee

11:57 min | 1 year ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on TeeVee

"I don't get what do what Charlotte thinks. Clever steering her. I don't get what she thinks is going to happen if she tells Dolores. There's loan company and she's the mole in the company for this guy like how is how is she going to come to come out ahead in any of this? The part I'm curious about the other good news is if she dies she's a hosted anyway right so the other theories on the net is like when she goes in meets to win she finds out that the original Real Charlotte Hale was the mole. She finds it out from that. There was a lot of theories on because the one. It's rocks assistance. Comes and gives her the glasses and says where these things and by the way that's That's apparently that's palm doing that. I I guess the the blonde hair. It was dark and it was a very brief moment. And so I. I didn't pick that up either. Yeah so but there's a lot of theories read it is that. Oh this is confirmation that Iraq is is not real that he's a virtual yeah he's a projection of her Hoban. By the thing. I was considering to it right but I'm not. I'm not buying that theory. This is like people pulling its rows. Because we've seen him real with Maeve last episode real person unless he's also a host and whatever I mean yeah he was there with Maeve. Well Yeah I mean we think so. Yeah well it wasn't wide-screen anymore. Right so we know she was out of the cradle slash forge slash whatever sublime slash simulation. Right so she's out of the simulation yes she's with him. That's a real place right well. And that's the only reason that I that I was considering it was because Maybe like because maybe it's not a real place only because I sort of because it would make sense if dolores has control of Rehoboth somehow that this guy is who built to take her down because why what would have this agenda and would know enough to know that it was deloris and that this is what needs to happen in all of that. So that's why to me. It has a certain amount of credence because like because I can totally see where a Hobo wants. Her gone because rehoboth wants to go back to being in charge of everything and right now. It's not him it's her. I could get the robe and would be manipulating. But I think he's a real person because Liam knows he's a real person right because in the first episode when he's just about to tell deloris who it is and then the Real Martin connel's tells her he knows it's a real person and he knows the name of the real person right so that's why I think whole theory is probably bullshit. It's the thing is valid but at the same time like it's all it could also be that he died and nobody told him like if he's such a private secret person maybe he died and this is a good way to To get control back like maybe you know. Maybe that's why everybody got locked out of the system and everybody just thinks that it's this Guy Ray. Because we're Hobo. Killed him to or something killed him and so now. That's what happened so everybody thinks this guy is still around but he's not really still around. It's just a ghost in the machine will see below. Find out as much everything. This comes with the asterisk of we're totally making shit up and there's an excellent chance that we're completely wrong so let's talk about something else. We didn't talk about during The should were starting out the Predator. Seeing Yes we're edition of the year. Yes so really. Were you upset that she killed a guy I I? I didn't see it coming honestly. I really thought she was just GonNa mess him up not like on a permanent basis so right out in broad daylight and everything else. Nobody can see because remember right at the beginning. She said something about things for fixing the cameras for me or something like that. And so two little His little thing that we saw Lena Rate Hat Lena. We've had in the first episode with Caleb that like keeps them from being on all the cameras and stuff so So first of all as soon as she did that. That told me that this dude came prepared. Which sort of worried me. And then Part of what lends credence to me. Too I It's Dolores in Charlotte theory is that she made a very very dolores face when she grabbed his shoulder and shoved him back down to the bench. And I feel like there's probably a little more insight that conversation with Tommy I think was his name About who is steering the hail ship and so I kind of want to go back and watch that again. Even though it's a little uncomfortable to watch as she just sits there and enjoys killing a dude which is sort of weird But Yeah I have to say like I didn't feel particularly sad about that guy and I fell like retroactively. A little bit creeped out when I remembered that when she was with Nathan Hale by the way The night before when. He said he was really excited about like. Tommy was there and let me pet his dog. And then we find out this is Tommy and he's creepy and ill and all of it. Yeah it was. It was weird. I have to say how about you. I thought it was weird too. I didn't didn't expect her to kill him but as it moved into it and she leaned down. I thought to myself she's GonNa kill him. Yes it was. It was very odd this coming but as soon as I didn't see it like as soon as she took one look at him like oh he's gone like no. It was as soon as she shoved him back down and it was very clear that she had her hand around his throat and was very comfortable. There that that's when I was like. Yeah I'd he's done so the the icing on the cake was her taking the dog I thought that was. Yeah both disturbing and funny. Yes both of those serving both of those things. So I thought that was really interesting to in terms of character development. Because it's at that point that she comes into our own. There's no more self harm. There's no more hurry worrying about what she should be doing next. It's no longer questioning her identity so to speak you help me remember who? I am or something like that. She does have the one scene where she's watching the video again of the Real Charlotte And she has the crying scene. Yeah and then. Then she figures it out the you are my sunshine tones And then she figures out what the number is and how to get a whole person. That's reaching Kazaa was her. That was sort of her her key to to figure out how to get to the mall so that was really interesting. It's a bit of a detective story there. Yeah so I like that a lot. I think the scenes with Caleb deloris were interesting especially the backstory scenes where we kind of figure out what made Kayla kill abandoned. The whole you know he's going to kill himself and I'm going to rebel against that kind of thing and doors saying to him when they're out on the pier. You surprised me. So this cat's like a new thing for deloris. She's never met a human like that. Yeah you may actually met. Humans did not suck. That's true right you know A tax felix faster even Sylvester but particularly Lee. He says you know. At least sizemore redeemed himself at the end so may knows that there are good. Humans deloris until this time. I'd never seen one. Yeah so this is an interesting turning point for her. So I'm I'm wondering how much coming around 'cause we know Dolores and Maeve meet. Oh Yeah we're assuming that they fight each other at the end of the season but we had that same assumption. That was gonNA happen in season two and it never did write. The closest they came was sort of a tense conversation and they both went like while. Leave you alone if you leave me alone. I'll leave you alone. Few Milon K narrowed at the end of it. Yeah right so I don't know if we're getting played on that one either and I do know that. Let's talk about the trailer because we're going to have to be. We're almost at our mark. You're gonNA hear those scenes of next week's episode. We're obviously finally GONNA get us some man in black yes and boy does he looked bet shit crazy. So he yeah. So where is he and win? Is He And is he in. This derelict crazy mode. Talk or is he being held against as well? You have a theory. Obviously that is the Hague. Elliott has a theory. Yes folks just say you know I know Kelly long enough to so you're talking about William and Sweeney said man in black and you said where's he and you said when is he and all I could think of was old friend and so what if it's Ford Ford is one of these somewhere one.

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

Post Show Recaps

16:17 min | 1 year ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

"With Tessa Thompson talking about like sinking her teeth into this role this year. And how there's a lot of compelling possibilities that are presented by playing a character like Charlotte where you don't know who she is right now she could be a man like there's a real gender bending element that could be at play here on on the show and whether or not. That's what's happening with Sharbat. That's just a possibility. She goes at length into into sort of like the identity. Issues that are that are being explored here on. West road that she's really psyched about just as a human being let alone as an actress so I I highly recommend the read. I think you'll enjoy what she has to say about. All that I will say what threw me off the scent of thinking. It was teddy inside of Dolores. Is that the smoking. Because I know I don't know if we've seen desktops character smoke in previous seasons of West Road but I thought was. Oh my God. What if it's theresa? Cullen right we. We did see her smoke once. I think I think we see her spoke in that scene. Where she's blinking. Hector Eschaton Bryant. She has theresa comedown so she is smoking there well. Let's let's talk about the possibility that it's Charlotte Charlotte herself. Because if if Dolores has access to the valley beyond and Ceramic seems to be interested in finding dolores because she has that information and presumably maybe still has like the secret project from. Davos so maybe has like all of that resurrected data. Then you assume that if that's correct into Laura's does have that like human resurrected data did she bring Charlotte Hail back and has she somehow found a way to like engender. Charlotte's loyalty like now that you're like me. Do you understand why I'm fighting the war that I'm fighting or would charlotte not be that easily convinced? Whoever is running around US Sharbat at the very least tosses out the possibility that it feels like she knows. I'm inside her body and wants to rip me out CHARBONNET. If it's not Charlotte Hale actually is positing the possibility that Charlotte Hale is somehow still alive within the skin suit. It's interesting. I saw a switch mid episode so when she was when the Charlotte Hale was self harming and questioning her near the nature of reality and she went and demanded to see Dolores and they met in the in the hotel lobby. I don't know what Delors if anything did to her before she went to sleep. Woke up Predator mode is activated. Charlotte mode is activated. It was like it's like she got a shot of Charlotte Hale and it was like that part of her that she'd been fighting it's like she embraced it and you noticed. She was wearing white before and then she changed into black and there is a great thing. Going on this season with there are two sides. What is like what is dark with address that may as white and you have dolores in black and then you had hail in white changing into black. These are very much design and so I just thought there was a definite switch at least Tessa Thompson played it that way after meeting with Dolores totally possible absolutely a possibility on the board. Let's talk through some more because this is fun so so. We have the possibility that it's teddy. I think is a very strong contender. I think Charlotte herself. It's a little harder for me to see like how she gets her arm. Twisted into being on board with Dolores though what we do learn in this episode at the end I thought this was a cool reveal is that there's a mole within. Delo IS RIGHT AND CHARLOTTE. Sharbat is investigating this only to come to realize oh. I'm excited that was that was great. That was great and I thought whoever that is plays does a really good job playing a part opposite ceramic when the two of them have the meeting of the minds so whoever this is somebody who is like amped up to play parts is somebody who is good at playing parts. Teddy maybe like the duplicitous nature is not such as wheelhouse. But we've seen abilities be augmented before we've seen literally. Teddy's abilities be augmented before so it's not impossible that he's just been augmented further. But somebody who we've seen have a lot of argumentation in the past is Clementine Clementine. Is Somebody who was really tight with. Dolores and season to even Clementine is more of like a Husky herself right in season to where she's kind of. I can fall on Zombie mode. But she's part of like the Wyatt Squad and I think it's worth noting that whoever is running around us. Sharbat has a fairly big reaction when she learns that may Malay- is not at the park right. Mavis Pearl has been taken. When they're doing the inventory these two guys come to Charlotte or charbonnet and say maybe not there. The demand and from sweetwater. It's CHARBONNET who says may Malay- has a reaction. Teddy would have that reaction because Teddy and may have interacted before Charlotte Hail. I think would have that reaction as well because Charlotte Hill is aware of Maeve. Depending on at what point in time like they have like Charlotte's memories and certainly clementine would be very hip to WHO Mavis at that point. That's that's an excellent twist and I kind of dig it because I was thinking. Let's say it's Teddy Teddy's brain ball inside of Charlotte and that scene where Charlotte knew Charlotte has to realize. She has to really make her ex. Stop questioning by making out with him and I was like okay. Well it's Teddy. He's got to adapt right..

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on GSMC Television Podcast

GSMC Television Podcast

11:13 min | 1 year ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on GSMC Television Podcast

"The GS empty. America's still beautiful podcast on. Itunes stitcher soundcloud Google. Play or any podcast just tight GS MC in the search bar. Okay all right her back. And this is my favorite part of the show where we talk about. Westworld my predictions for the next episode. Which will be episode three and but first before we get to my predictions as I told you at the end of last segment. There's a bookie OUTTA VEGAS WHO has decided to set some betting odds because apparently there is a market for people to bet on Westworld. And what's going to happen in the next episode? So he set up odds for three different categories that we're GonNa go through and what he thinks more most most likely to happen out of these choices. Now these choices that are at the betting window not the only thing that could possibly happen and their choices and their how they are scattered out by his odds his betting odds so I the first category is what's calebs next job on the RICO APP now for those of you who watch the show you know that this is the APP. Caleb USES. That signed him. It's almost a GIG economy type of UBER APP. That will give him petty crime jobs or higher if he choose so decides to do so here are the choices. The one hour an. I'll just go down as to what they think is the most likely thing that's going to happen. The most likely job that this guy. This book he thinks is going to happen. Or they're just. Caleb is going to choose is what's called an aide to be and that is a delivery of an item to somebody else very similar to him delivering those drugs to Martin chip's the bodyguard and episode. One that they think that's a has a high best odds he gives it a plus two hundred which means that you have to two hundred dollars to get some money. The second one is babysitting. I guess that's because he didn't WANNA do personals. The third is a fireworks show which is not truly firework. Show means he would do some sort of vandalism explosive type of thing. The fourth one is a smashing grab which is exactly what it is something. Then you grab it usually happens at a retail store. The fourth is creative accounting. Now I don't see Caleb even getting the opportunity to do any accounting which I guess it'd be like embezzlement embezzlement but this guy has created counting fifth. He has grand theft auto. I can see Caleb doing that. And last but not least is redistributive justice which is basically being a vigilante. And I don't see Caleb doing that. Excuse me in the longest odds with for murder. Obviously he will not do that. The next category is what's the next character dine westworld and I thought this one was very interesting. The character that he thinks is most likely to bite it in the next episode. Number one on his list is G. G is the character played by Marshawn Lynch. He's the gentleman with the T shirt lights up. According to whatever his mood is and I guess because he's rather insignificant in the plot right now. He thinks that he possibly is a good. If anyone's going to die it might be g second on his list surprisingly maybe not so surprisingly is Liam Liam is the guy who is the son of one of the creators of we're Hobo. That's what I'm going to call it. You know what I mean. It's the big the second. Ai FROM SALOMON ISRAEL. And that's where he thinks he's going to possibly be the next likely person to die. The next person not surprisingly his ash. Which is Lena? Wait at this point rather insignificant character. Fourth is William. William hasn't even shown up this season so I guess he had to put them somewhere. I don't it's pretty long odds though that William will die next person's Maeve very long odds charlotte very long odds Benard Dolores in Caleb. He seems to think that K- Lope has the best chance of sticking it out so far on the show I guess because they wouldn't pay a Aaron Paul to be on the show just to kill him off in the third episode and then last but not least not thought. This was kind of funny. It's what's the next thing. G. is going to mention on the show as I said before G. is marshawn Lynch and Marshawn Lynch. The football player used to play for the Seattle seahawks rather colorful character so all of these mentions are things that are associated with his life as marshawn. Lynch and that. They seem to think that the writers might stick in there as a little wink to the audience which. I hope they do not because as I said last week. Just putting the game of thrones guys in their sucked. Don't do that anymore. It takes us out of the whole show but anyway he thinks the most likely thing is not going to happen and I hope he's correct about that the second or the least likely the most likely it's going to happen that if he says anything it's GonNa be beast mode because that's his nickname. Football second thing is boss because he always says boss Third he'll say about that action fourth he'll talk about. Gidell's he did. A skittles commercially supposedly really like skittles. Second the last is I'm just here so I don't get signed which he famously said at a press conference because he was getting fined for not showing up to press conferences and last manats. Least he's going to say thanks for thanks for asking because he said he was accessing instead of asking so those are the things that I thought those kind of interesting anyway. Let me get to my predictions. And they're just four categories for things. I'm going to talk about I is who is Charlotte. Hail I'll say that I think this next episode which is titled Absence Of Field. I have no idea what that means but I think it's going to focus on the people that are in the real world last week. We focused on Maeve and was going on her world. We got to cease Eric this week. They're going to focus on. I BELIEVE CHARLOTTE HAIL. Whoever's in that body Dolores in the people who are outside the park so the question is going to be who is in Charlotte heels body now read? It seems to think it's Peter Abernathy. Which is in Westworld delores? Father and that's a good guess. And that's very credible very likely it is. I'm still not ready to chuck my prediction that had some type of arnold consciousness in there. That's just what I think. But Peter Abernathy is a good good guess. Caleb I believe in the next episode. Aaron Paul's character is going to be introduced to the world of sentient androids. Because he saved deloris She fell into his arms. He's GonNa find out that it wasn't the beautiful woman that he thought she is but she is going to be the beautiful android and cheese going to tell him about who she is and where she came from all about that and he's going to be able to school her on how the real world works especially his world and he's going to be able to plug her into the underworld which I think is going to be of help to her in what she's trying to take over the world think this episode will start to better define the two sides here. I think there's going to be like a civil war of sorts and once I we're GONNA have deloris Caleb and the other hosts that Dolores Park whoever's in Charlotte Hale's body we saw Martin chip's is now a host so whoever that is in there and then the other side is going to be Serik in Maeve and Liam you know the people that work for insight and also William I believe is going to come out of wherever he is. I think if I I think he's GonNa Change Sides. I think at first. He's GonNa come out of there wherever he is and he's going to be on the side of Sarah and Maeve. We're going to try to take out the lowest I think. Eventually he will switch sides and work with the Laura's for toward whatever it is that they decide they're going to do and finally think the point of this season and I think they're going to start to more sharply defined that in this episode is that Dolores wants free will what she considers to be free will and so caleb so does everybody but I think what this show is setting up is the concept that we live in a construct in which free will is an illusion and neither the host nor the humans are really calling the shots. And that's it. That's all the time I have this week. Many of your relief. Let me know what you think. Please email me at podcast towered or tweet me at fly to DC and let me know what you think. Also give me some suggestions for the show. I'd like to thank you all for listening to this. 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"charlotte hale" Discussed on GSMC Television Podcast

GSMC Television Podcast

10:43 min | 1 year ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on GSMC Television Podcast

"Are you tired of the same Old News Are you? Sick of the seemingly endless political spin negatively the Diaz Mc. America's still. Beautiful podcast is a weekly news. Podcast covering all the top positive and up living news stories. We cover stories that will inspire uplift and remind you love the good in the world tune into the golden state media. Concept's America's still beautiful podcast to get all the great and positive news stories of today download the GS MC America's still beautiful podcast. On itunes stitcher soundcloud Google. Play or anywhere your podcasts just type. Diaz Mc in the search bar okay. Okay all right I am back. We're about to talk about westworld. Did this past. Few days is went to read. It very seldom do that. But I wanted to get the hot theories or I picked six theories out or six topics out at We're talking about about westworld summer theory. Some are just some topics after episode one. So I want to get right to it number one. Do Rojo bombs now. I'm hoping I'm pronouncing that right. I don't think anyone knows how to pronounce that correctly. Right now do Raho bombs biblical roots forecast the showdown now the masterminds behind Westworld Jonathan Nolan and Lisa joy in their writer's room. They've always had a weird fascination with etymology. There's a meaning in. The name has never rung more true than some of the corporations and the characters on this show but in season three the writers seem to have outdone themselves the all knowing. I currently running the human world known as Rehbaum is the successor to a previous system called Solomon created by Liam's father but both named Biblical ties Solomon was a wealthy and wise king. He was you've heard of the wisdom of Solomon who joined the Kingdom of Judah and Israel under one rule but he was punished by God for building false idols. When we're Hoban came into power guy took his revenge. By splitting up Salomon Sons Kingdoms rebellion some credit there is this might foreshadow the eventual showdown between deloris clearly has an interest in either destroying. Rojo bomb or controlling it in the eye who's grown so powerful it cannot be controlled topic number two divergences versus anomalies. Now I was I had my own little theory about it and I looked online and trying to see what the differences were now You know those strange circles that they use to set scenes in the first episode. They looked like those circles on arrival the dotted ones. I think that's how we're Hoban looks at the world. I think that's a view of the world or how processes things happening in the world just before we meet calebs character. The system detects an anomaly in La. While in China deloris is action signal. What's called a divergence? So this is will. I thought but some also on Reddit thought that that was the confirmation that divergences are host driven particularly Dolores driven because. She's the one who is very sentient. And while not little. Anomalies might refer to humans if Caleb is a human. There's some theories about that. We'll talk about that waking up from their own loops number three. Caleb might be a host. Aaron Paul's new character where the character that Aaron Paul plays is called Caleb. Nichol's not much is known about. The army vet turned construction worker other than his mother might be suffering from dementia. He is in therapy for his PTSD. And he's forced to take on less than savory work to make a living because has his friend. Francis says the system is rigged but some folks believe that Caleb might actually be a part of that system. The first clue comes from how we meet the character as he goes through his loop in a way that closely mirrors the losses beginnings on the show keeps waking up in that same loop much how Dolores did at the beginning on episode one of the first season we see glimpses of his past through memory like flashbacks that continually change in that again. Draws a parallel to dolores is awakening in season one now. The thing that I thought was weird was that his mother and he obviously visits her regularly. She claims that he's not her son. That might be a red herring. My just because she's in dementia as Alzheimer's or something. But I think that maybe Caleb who mentions that he got shot in the head later on in the episode Might be maybe not all human and the mother recognizes that and doesn't even acknowledge Caleb as her son the Some people already things that the best indication that Caleb is a host is that he is being manipulated by by having a double life. He regularly claims on an APP. That looks like task rabbit for criminals. An APP called Rico. Looks like the Uber Gig economy for criminals of all type. Some folks think that's being controlled by Rowbotham again thinks links between your home's divergent divergence detections and calebs throughout the episode. Some of the red conspiracy theorists think that that might signal that Caleb is some type of Failsafe Rowbotham has adopted to stop the loss from taking over number four. Are we really future world now that Rooftop Party with Liam deloris has a conversation with his friend? Rodrick who questions whether their world is just the simulation innocent mutilation leading some to speculate that the show is gearing up to reveal the Dolores actually operating in future world. Now this is where riddick it's deeper than I do. Crecy see just the simulation in assimilation was finding a for me was finding from me but the people will read it. Think that Raho boom is actually running an elaborate fidelity tests much like William was being put through last season fans have also guest deloris Charlotte Hale and Bernard might be working in different timelines. Which I don't think is true. I've not at all. But that's the theory so I thought I put it out there. Here's one of those. Deep dive rented things that I am positive Nolan enjoy put in episodes. He's just to screw it. People read it. There's a song playing right before. Delors has conversation with Rodrick about a being a simulation in assimilation. And it's dissolved girl by massive attack. The same song happens to be playing in Nieto's year when we first meet him in the first matrix movie. What did you say whatever what did you say? I would never have known that. Had it not been for rented who is Charlotte Hale? Who THE HELL is she? We know that the Human Charlotte is dead but Tessa Thompson is back in. Her character is in charge of Delos. Which in the real world means that she must be a host. Dolores is no longer operating system but she did smuggle five pearls out of the park and read it guesses that one of the parole. She snuck out of the park. Is Inside that Charlotte Hail Body. I don't think it took too much to figure that one out. But who is it something? Charlotte might be teddy because how devoted she appears to be to Delors something that Peter Abernathy. Who is delores father? Some people think it's Angela but Angela got blown up in the forge. I don't think it could possibly be Angela. My long shot is that I think it's arnold consciousness that or artificial consciousness or however you want to say I think it's Arnold that's in Charlotte Hale and number six last but not lease what's Chirac. What's his true form? Now in my mind Chirac a man I never even went to where read it? Went on this one. So I'm just GonNa read. What read it some of these people rather than set but let me tell you who is the CO creator of Rehoboth Rehoboth that's according to Liam in the world. We didn't get his name from Leon. We got his name from chip's the bodyguard when he was dying so ceramic is the CO creator of it largely operating behind the scenes after the death of his partner. Who is Liam's father now? Fans assume that the newcomer Vincent Cassel who? We haven't officially learned his name yet. They think that he has Sarokin. I think that's probably a good guess but we still don't know who Sarah or Sara really is isn't wasn't that spock's father's name Sarik. I don't know maybe I'm wrong. I think Sarah could be Robert. Ford's ghosts in the machine. That is my guess. It's a shot but I think at this guy who was the co Creator Is Somebody we know. And the only person we know who the intellect to pull that one off as either Arnold a Robert Ford. I think it's Robert Ford and I think Arnold is in. What did you Sir Charlotte Hale we shall see. And I just don't want to say goodbye to Anthony Hopkins. Anyway so I got to put them somewhere. I'm putting him in Sarah. And so that is it for our two hundred and twenty fourth episode. I WanNa thank you for listening to the GMC television podcast brought to you by the mighty. Gsm Z. Podcast network my name is Howard Fletcher. You can email me at podcast. Howard at G MAIL DOT COM. Oh Africa read the emails. I didn't have time to. I promise I'll do that next show You can tweet me at Fletch. Dc here's what's most important. I want you to rate give us a five star rating..

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

Post Show Recaps

12:10 min | 1 year ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

"I look at him. Icy Max. That's the that's the Thomas. Craftsman is the actor and he played Max in season two of twenty four and he was like built up. Joe As like this is the guy. He's he's mean he's Nina Myers a secret handler. He's the one who's backing all the players to take down President Palmer. He's responsible for everything that happened with raisins in season. One and then he disappears from the show forever after season two with no resolution and you ever expecting any resolution you had to play twenty four the video game which suck as I love twenty four and I enjoyed shooting a helicopter as Tony Almeida but the game was really bad and like the big terrorist plot was there was an earthquake machine that was threatening Los Angeles. There's very very terrible. Gameplay mechanics really really bad. And that's the only way that you get to address Max gets killed by the anyway. Everytime I see China's scratching I think. Yes I you know. There are obviously making a statement with the one percenters and you know the rich white tech guys and I call it the Parasite House. 'cause for those who've seen parasite if that very futuristic multi level home has high tech and yet. Delors is able to outsmart that tech and obviously she's had a system upgrades since world the park. She's definitely more confident like she's moving through the whole episode with so much confidence but the way that she I think like she was she must have is like a depth of understanding of what she is. And what the what? The technology is around her and so she's able to like move within that. I don't think that we have a clear timetable. When this opening scene takes place it's in China like the opening tells us that were located in China so I take that as the meaning with the big white Spinney blackball thing that incident incident like. I have no idea what that means. I'm looking for finding out and it struck me that it says like incident in China. So I'm just assuming that that house China that if if westworld apart and I think it was established in The in the second season and it's reinforced here by the ending. When Bernard is setting a course to Westworld archies in the Philippines is close to the South China Sea in that scene That if she's in China and is cold open she just left the park. Basically like is this pretty close to after she left the park or is this closer to the. I think it's been like ninety days since the day lows massacre for the vast majority of the episode. So it's like how far into getting her groove back. Is Dolores in this? I remember shade have time to make new skins and put the brain balls in them. So who knows I think they're purposely obfuscating the actual time line and that's fine with me but I wanNA know so. She didn't take the entire library of guest data books before she left West role because she didn't have time. So when did she have time to scan specific guests info like Jerry's that was that was surprising to me and I get the full rewatch before getting back into Westworld and stupid me that like I kind of glanced over the fact that it would probably be pretty important that the law is in that library in the forge in the digital realm where there are all these books on all the guests who've come to Westworld and she she seemingly has read the book on a lot of people like seems like she's read the book on Jerry. I like the way that she's able to talk to him about like a horrible things. He's done seems like she knew things like she wouldn't have been able to know unless she had like read his brain map so terrifying that. I guess like she. She's been able to read like a strong chunk of the literature on at least the humans who passed through. I have a theory too soon. No of course not. She has a mole blackstone the park. And that's how she's getting information she'll say I need the information on Jerry Smith and then she gets it. So Jerry is a inside a former inside employees. Visited the park who's to say Obviously for this long con- on the company she friend too and we'll get to it to rebuild connel's into one of her own right I I think she has someone at the park feeding her information. Who Do you think it is? I don't know yet. I don't think it's obviously Bernard at I. There are a lot of people who are dead. So I'm not quite sure marinating on the theory I shall I shall provide no commentary. Good good good I will do it. That's how we'll do it at this time. When your time you have the floor in my lip will be sealed. But in ninety days she's able to get on. Ironically connel's who is the right hand man for insight and recreate his body and you use him as her bodyguard. So she's a quick study that Dolores Abernathy yes. She's a quick study so she's got that in play She's going to have Charlotte Hale is in play. We still don't know who that is. Which is awesome very exciting. I think it's cool that we the I'll be curious to know what's the what's the temperature in the room like frustrated that we don't know who the new. Charlotte is yet or excited that that has not been answered. And like you're kind of having to do some guesswork. What what's your take on that so far. Test the time since my favorite and so I love seeing this version of her knowing it's not Charlotte Hale. Did Dolores Have Charlotte hails brain ball from season to in her purse. Is this version of it that she can now control or is it? Is it entirely else? Or is there a possibility that dolores literally takes her own brain ball out and puts it inside of tested thompsons body to go to staff meetings? I don't know I'm just saying there could be a tech. I mean there's a lot of different we don't know when these meetings take place and again even though it's not necessarily a straight up time line. I think there are a lot of possibilities for switching between Dolores and Charlotte quo awesome. So she kills poor. Max I mean Jerry. Thomas Christman doesn't it doesn't make it out of here and we shouldn't be saying you're absolutely right but just as a thrill ride. I liked that we kind of we started as sort of like a sci Fi. Horror movie with our with our first scene was really cool. He's got the glasses. Where guy own glasses in the future? What's IT GONNA be like for a guy like me? Who just these glasses anyway. You have a separate pair for nightmares. Do I'd just like build them in or do I have to carry two pairs of glasses around everywhere I mean you should start designing tech now and get the get the copyright man wanted to talk to someone you should meet the pat and it'll be good up at that. Scene goes down. Deloris walks away with all this insight data right and what insight is because is a new company. That's being introduced to the world of Westworld. We had never heard of it before season three. You had heard of it if you were like hip to the viral marketing. This has been a really big push. Hbo Has Been Doing. Where basically insight seems to be like a company that like juror rates this makes decision-making easy for you by reading all of your data And there was like some private privacy law that was enacted at some point in the late Twenties Thirties. In the world of Westworld that I don't think we know the full scope of yet An insight like capitalizes on that. And has this big massive computer system that is somehow like processing everybody's data and giving them choices as a result and that's the that's the Ray Obam supercomputer. Yes and by the way that that logo is version of the maze. It's exactly the maze from season one in a spherical form kidding. How did you figure that out? I studied it. That's amazing and so. Should we enlightened? Here's what I'd what Ray Obama is so it's spelled R. E. H. B. O. A. m. and it was hard to understand because. I do think that they gave a lot of jargon to Tommy Flanagan and I love Tommy Flanagan. He's the guy who plays connel's let's let's maybe not given so much jargon to Tommy Flanagan. I want to slow down. When you say the Word Ray-ban because I think that needs to be subtitle would be would be helpful. Well here's why and it's on the nose which I appreciate why they call it. Rea- bomb first of all they refer to it as the strategy engine that saved the world through algorithms the history of the world. Rayo bomb is that Ray-ban was the son of King Solomon of Israel. He came to power when his father died. This is gonNA sound real familiar shortly after he became ruler. The Israelites revolted against his authority. Welcome to West Road Season Three. Yeah so what we're GONNA get from The character that Laura's is conning is his name's Leeann Dempsey Liam Dempsey Junior. We assume he's he's Dempsey Junior. I believe that they say that he's played by John. Gallagher Junior so double junior. We just call him junior junior because junior. Then I'm going to think about pregnant Arnold Schwarzenegger the whole time okay. Well that's your problem. I'm not mad. I believe one of Emily. Fox's top five Arnold Schwarzenegger movies is junior fair. I'll take it. I thought it was a little weird at one time. I asked her. What are your top five Arnold Schwarzenegger movies? She lives in June very strange. I thought that was very strange. That she has five is quite something well. I don't know that you made it five. Okay Emily if you're out there. It's very likely that. Emily is on the other side of my podcast door. Considering everything if you're out there and if you can hear me and you WanNa text me your top five Arnold Schwarzenegger movies. I would certainly read them. Live on this podcast. Welcome to our podcast. By Liam Density Junior played by John Gallagher junior and his father is the inventor of ray-ban this episode based on like some of the scenes between Liam and Dolores Liam who. I've been calling Nerdy Jon snow because I think they kind of kind of looks like Kit Harrington glasses kit whereas the glasses. Yes tech texts. No Tech Bro. The texts no. He's he like admits the door so I don't know what's going on. Nobody knows what's going on so like if anybody's been set up to be rebelled against ray-ban style Liam certainly seems to be to be there but the deck is also set right like if the Israelites. Who REBELLED AGAINST THE SUPERCOMPUTER? Are The hosts here Almost like those were going for pretty much but speaking of Liam junior is really in the dark or is he well aware of his father's doing like Logan and Daddy Delo from last season. I think the the daddy issues continue with a different set of boys update from Emily Fox. She says junior wins true. Lies and then As though she's trying to pick up two more Arnold Schwarzenegger movies. Either that she knows exists or that she has seen we will continue to keep you updated Liam as sort of like the new the new Logan Logan to some degree like I'd be like he's like he's like adeptly like a little bit of Worldwide he kind of just. Let's what happens to Dolores happened. And that's not great. But he seems like he's just a guy who was like in over his head in a way that like maybe there's room for redemption with this character. I don't know we'll see let's hope so. It seems like a big old pond right now. Seems like a little bit of upon right now but what is your take on insight as a concept and insight as a thing that dolores is particularly interested in. Go to your first point. I'm so glad you asked. Because las tres working this word which is con- The shape that round spherical shape of insight machine. It's Allah the Panopticon. Which is an eighteenth century. Disciplinary concept is brought to life in the form of a central observation tower that was placed within prison cell circles so from the tower guards COSC- inmate. But the inmates inmates now they can't seem to the tower. They don't know whether or not they're being watched. And so the the concept of insight. You assume they're watching you. You don't really know. And by the way the Congress created by a man named Jeremy Bentham all stop it all my God..

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on GSMC Television Podcast

GSMC Television Podcast

10:15 min | 1 year ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on GSMC Television Podcast

"So that was it for the bachelor finale part two. I can't say that it was the best obviously wasn't my cup of tea because I didn't watch thing but And from what I UNDERSTAND. It was kind of controversial in Bachelor nation as they say. But there's no doubt in my mind that they come they'll come on with another season and they'll get great ratings to they always do and speaking of ratings last night on the mask singer. Another show that I don't watch Sarah Palin was on Sarah Palin Sarah Palin was on and when they went off now this is what I saw on social media she busted out with some sir mix a lot baby got back. Come on man. How many attention dollars do you need? Do it was. I was flabbergasted seeing that I didn't see it real time. Thank goodness 'cause I might not be here to do this. Show I might just you know stroked out looking at that thing anyway? The mass singer leads Wednesdays prime time ratings. I can't believe I'm saying that. Sentence and adults eighteen to forty nine for total viewers. Moving ahead of CVS is survivor for the first time in a month. Now I'm now I've watched survivor like the first two or three seasons which was probably before some of you were born. That's a long survivors been on TV. But I'm surprised. It survived this long but trust me. I would watch survivor. I'm trying to think of the worst version of survivor. Possible I would watch. I don't know The biggest loser survivor or the Palin family survivor or survivor with Steve Harvey and David Spade. 'cause play survivor some crazy survivor. I would watch hours of that before the mask singer but the mask singer people either survivor or they just the mask singer or something. I guess I'm missing out on now. I didn't miss out on the Sarah Palin thing unfortunately but I would like to see now. They had people on the mask singer. Like it was like something somebody you would just never expect like. It was like Melania trump who unfortunately I think you would guess her probably. I've heard her speaking voice so I don't think he'd be able to hide who she was or like Arnold you you tell you know he was singing. But I'm won't be so hard on the bachelor at the end the Bachelor I will say this trauma. Ratings Finale got the highest audience in four years for the bachelor and they got some of the highest ratings this year so far although we're only a forth into the year for ABC you know it delivered eight point. Four eight million viewers which was pretty going good number so the bachelor still killing it. Peter and Madison are in love. So it's all good for the Bachelor and I'm glad I watched a little bit of it and I'm glad it's GonNa come back for you guys to watch it next. I'M GONNA finish up by talking about you know it. One of my favorite shows westworld starts on Sunday. I'm going to go down through a lineup of the characters. And tell you what you should be looking for. Don't go away. Are you tired of the same. All News are you sick of the seemingly. Endless political spin and negatively the DIAZ NC. America's still beautiful. Podcast is a weekly news podcast covering all the positive and uplifting news stories we cover stories that will inspire uplift and remind you of the good in the world tune into the golden state media concepts. America's still beautiful podcast to get all the great and positive news stories of today download the GS NC. America's still beautiful podcast on Itunes Stitcher Soundcloud. Google play or anywhere podcasts. Just tight just MC in the search bar right westworld talk about westworld season three starts Sunday which is going to be the fifteenth. And so it's a pretty those. We've who watched? They've had two seasons. The first season was way back in two thousand sixteen. If you can believe that and the other one. The last season season two ended twenty one months ago. So it's been a while between seasons and also a while since the whole thing started so. I'm going to go over the main characters a little bit. There will be spoilers in here. I'm not going to go into super detail. But they'll will be spoiler so if you haven't seen the first two seasons of Westworld and you would like to go to it fresh without not knowing what's going on which is the best way to watch it. Then you should probably turn me off now and tune in to my next show next Tuesday when I will be voting. The last segment of all my shows from now on to Westworld until the end of the season well. I characterize go over. Is the pretty much the main character there two or three main characters but the one we started out. This whole journey with is Evan Rachel Wood's character Dolores. Dolores is host in Westworld. I some might call her a robot. They've been getting updates in revisions ever. Since the park opened so much of their body is like flesh. They're very human-like. And she attained sentence at the end of season one and season. Two she was she spent all of these in two on a crusade against humanity. Many would say for good reason because as a host you're there to pleasure the guests in any way they were like whether they be violent or perverted or worse and Dolores being the oldest hosts in the park had gone through it all and so many would say she had plenty of motive to go after humans teddy. Who was her partner? Pretty much love interest if you will. Even though he was a robot to play by James Markson he killed himself rather than participate any further and dolores his rampage. He was like I get it. But you're too much for me. Dolores ultimately escaped the park at the end of season two but she didn't escape in her body. She escaped in the body of Charlotte Hail Charlotte. Hey was a human played by Tessa Thompson. But she ended up being made into a host and they made a host that looked like Charlotte Ale and the laws left the park with a few assets and they were actually five control units which have the personality and abilities and all of those things is like the brain five hosts and so when Delors left at the end the season two we she had these five control units Benard. By Jeffrey Wright is also host. He didn't know he was the host until the end of season one he was created by Robert. Ford who played by Anthony Hopkins. I will get to him later But Benard was not download. The Laurence's plan you know. He identified with humans for the most part. He was shocked to find out he was the host. But he wasn't down with the genocide of humans so after watching Charlotte Hail Kill Elsie. Elsie was a human who worked with Benard while when Bernard worked for the park and when he thought he was human he took on the job of killing Charlesdale. Because he didn't like her and he liked Elsie. And he built that body Charlotte hail host body for Dolores and that's not the Lord Snuck Avoparcin for his troubles. Dolores Killed Benard but she rebuilt in when she escaped from the park and the season ended with Benard. Also going out into the world looking like a human but also being a host. Deloris told him that they will probably run into each other later on down the line and be in conflict. Probably much like professor x and Magneto. Okay I've talked about Charlotte Hale while Bernard Killed Charlotte Hail. But there's a twist to this now because Dolores left the park INTESA thompsons body so when we see her later on Dolores built another body or probably. The Bernard built a body. That looks like Evan Rachel Wood so she has her unit back in the body. That cheese familiar with but we also saw the Charlotte hail body that she snuck out in alive with a control unit in it. We don't know what control unit it is. We don't know who that personality is inside of Charlotte Hail Tessa Thompson. We're just going to have to find out this season. Ashley stubs Played Luke Hemsworth. He's accused the security man or actually the head of the security of Delos in that park in Westworld he We found out at the end of the season to that he to a host and according to the trailers I've seen he'll still be around what his role will be. We're.

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Westworld S1E8 Recap

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05:30 min | 1 year ago

Westworld S1E8 Recap

"Westworld season one episode eight trace decay. Ford brings been on active status and instantly breaks tailed. Ford says he ordered him to kill trees or in order to protect the hosts. He Promises Bernard that he will erase his memories of his relationship with Theresa including his partner. Death wants Benard covers up the murder we see Bernard paint himself out of security footage and remove all evidence of the presence from his apartment before his memories wiped. Benard asks Ford if he's ever made him home anyone else. Ford says no just as been odd sees himself strangling elsie but is instantly forced to forget. Thanks to Bernard speedy work. To raise bodies discovered in the ravine. Where the woodcutter host was found alongside. The satellite uplink cheesed. Send data out of the park. The medical team did you. She was trying to reach a high point to transmit the data then slipped and fell so a death ruled an accident with this news Ford announces. That Theresa Altered Clementines coat to make Bernardo incompetent in light of the revelations been audited reinstated as head of behavior in the influence of Theresa's. Qa Department is limited Charlotte Hale is forced to accept the official story despite knowing that something more is going on elsewhere in the facility may still having trouble distinguishing between her memories. In real life flitting between her passed on the farmer the daughter and live at the Mariposa but the new host playing clementines role and the Body Repair Lab she tells Felix and Sylvester that she still intends to escape because relationships with their daughter and clementine adjust ways of trapping in the park may gets Felix and Silvester to agree to grunts her administrative privileges so she can control the hosts as well as to remove the explosive failsafe in his spine. That would stop her in any of the host leaving the park to do that. She needs to be taken to behavior and shut down so west. The hatches a plan to y Maes. Programming Wash is offline and Phoenix reluctantly. Agrees to go along with it while exploring the Canyon at the edge of the Park William and Dolores find the sole survivor of a group of confederate. Does that were attacked by the ghost. Nation the dying soldier admits that Logan then new recruits told the confederate does my own laws trained so they can ambush and kill them. Deloris goes to get them on water but sees a vision of her body lying in the river still tracking Wyatt's teddy in the men in black. Find the bodies of a group of settlers with one survivor. This host is Angela. The host we saw. Welcome in William and other guests the park a very different role the men in black recognizes and says. He thought she'd have been decommissioned by now. Angela tells them white men kill everyone but they're attacked by a wholly-owned man with axe that seems to be immune to their bullets. The man in black tries to strangle the creature which triggers teddy to remember the money black attacking delores in a previous storyline. Eventually jolts back to reality and uses the creatures. Oh next to kill him. The man in black congratulates Teddy leading them to Wyatt but teddy knocks him out. With a barrel of his gun now fully aware of how his harm Dolores back in the facility Mavis successfully smuggled into behavior but when Sylvester orders phillies to wipe programming instead sides with maeve emboldened by a new administrative. Privileges may cut Sylvester's throat and orders Felix to close the wound back in the park. She tests her abilities by successfully controlling other hosts even getting host. Ken Each Other on command. With Theresa Gone Charlotte's enlists Lee Sizemore to smuggle data from the park. She takes him down to cold storage. And Upload Data into Peter Abernathy. The original host plane Delors. His father lease tasked with building a personality for Peter so he can leave Westwood on the train with human guests at Delors and William continue on the road. They reach a site where a town once stood and Dolores. His vision get more intense. She flits between memories. Seeing hosts like maeve armistice being trained before Lawrence daughter asks if she's found what she's looking for then a vision of Dolores starts shooting people in the streets than raises a gun to a head realizing the arnold wanted to remember something. Dolores breaks down in tears and questions. Her Reality William Decides to return to sweetwater for the sake of a fragile mind but they're intercepted by Logan in the confederate does on the road. Logan isn't the only one book infinite lowers after tying up the money black teddy interrogates him about Delors his whereabouts instead the money beat reveals that he came to Westworld after his wife kill the self and his daughter rejected him as they both since the dawn is within him to test if he was truly evil he killed. Maven her daughter. Borscht them dine plot of land. Plant a little by the maze. At that moment the man in black began pursuing what he believes to be a game created by Arnold. The death of Maeve doors was life changing for her to in more ways than one as May prepares to actually the park. She remembers being attacked by the money and black and I spent he kills Clementine causing Westwood Security. To come in

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on TeeVee

TeeVee

14:49 min | 1 year ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on TeeVee

"The uncanny valley. This is the incomparable podcast about westworld. I'm your host kelly gaumont with muzorewa's don on melton party andan party on cars and as part of the incomparable network of course we always want to give our thanks to jason and everyone over there for putting up yep with us we are about to step into analysis for the series three trailer of westworld the longer form sneaky peek that we got at it comecon on saturday that would be the twentieth of july. We're recording this on the twenty second now and we are going to talk about this a little bit and as per tradition since this is a reaction show we are going to time it and that twenty minutes starts now so all done this trailer for me was very very different from all the stuff we've seen before from the show but also very much the same yeah we saw the teaser. What was it two months ago. Kelly yes something <hes> right before the game of thrones series finale yeah which which caught unawares on that one this one is. It's actually about the same length i think they were both like about three minutes two and a half to three minutes. This one might be longer so we saw saw more of the the world outside the park but we also saw the park this time was at least i think it's the park either uses out of. They've invented a time machine going back to nazi world so there was a lot to unpack in this one just weird shit all over fifty thousand questions all sorts of scary riot it bots. The men in black makes an appearance. Finally this time ed with looking up up and stuff the ceiling. I guess because blood is dripping on his head yet. You know it took me a couple of watches to notice the blood on his head. Yeah that might be why he was looking up because you don't there's like one little drop on his head and then he looks up in like another one hits him just just before like a split second before it cuts to the view whatever it is. He's looking up at <hes>. It actually took me the second viewing because i watched i sorta got it must have watched the first first time at high speed 'cause i didn't even recognize ed harris at first and then it was on the third fourth or fifth year. I will let yeah. I'm not sure i'm not sure it's to entire seconds that we have him there. In the first place it might be he just went by really fast and we didn't know we will have linked to the trailer in the show notes. Let's start at the beginning. The thing that i noticed there was deloris laurus we hear dolores speaking to begin with and she says i think we all have our role to play machines in this world but not like us that was interesting yeah and then she says we've no mother and we have no my little father and and then there's a cut to charlotte or hail. Loris as people were calling at the end of last season stepping out of a vehicle. I guess at some flying flying transport like it's not a car. It doesn't seem like a plane. I don't know what to call it so she's wearing the power suit and smoke in the the <hes> power cigarette there oh yes she's all business and that was sort of interesting. You know you have no father no mother and then it cuts to her and then <hes> dolores were alone outnumbered and then we see the shot of the brain balls right yeah and it looks like she's talking to charlotte and it looks like to me. This looks like a bernard's house. Maybe i was wondering that too because there's because i lost countless he's in she warta with five balls or what because their four on the table <hes> and i think she swaps out maybe the one in halo raise your way don't know for one thing who's in charlotte hails host body replica right right. Don't know who the four on the table are. All know for sure is and when i say for sure it's like it's still got an asterisk. All we know is delores is in delores body and bernard who we'll see in a while is bernard's body well. We're pretty sure bernard's the body we can leave it there yeah yeah but we don't know who's currently driving charlotte hale and we don't know how often the driver changes. I guess to be yeah. I would imagine like maybe it's a little bit schizophrenic. John egli when dolores decides that she wants to talk to teddy. I'm assuming teddy's one of them together. Takata uploaded. She put his brain ball all in the the big machine. That's right okay so <hes> what would be really creepy as if it's her dad you know well it might be him but maybe not in the shot. We see later where there are snuggled in bed and so there's yeah there's a lot happening we get we get to like the tight shot of the brain marbles and dan and then from there we cut to the outside world and i think that's when we cut to to aaron paul our new character in the outside world and he and then we see him in the tunnel that we saw at the end of or in at the end of and near the end of the previous trailer we see sort of looks like he's sort of holding dolores that she collapsed in that tunnel and he's there trying to help her and being nice and then all of a sudden way. I'm we get like a completely different place with some quanta heads in the background and one thing another dem machines means i've ever seen there and then farmer bernard as i've been calling him in my head with the overall yes and the world's worst haircut and he's doing surgery on his arm to remove some filament or something on his own arm with some yeah. It looks like some really weird ribbon cable or something that he's like pulling out. Didn't he do that in the last episode of the last season into something like that he did something and i think it was like the thing the old tech that made it so he could find old like original robots or something. There was something about it. I think so yeah we see him a a bald headed and super beardie. It's obviously talking. It seems like he's talking to ashley stubs yeah. It seems like that's the conversation because you hear stubs in this whole sequence and we don't know if they've cut things back and forth because they just led right to screw with us right right it wouldn't be a nolan enjoy production. If if the whole sequence of events here is is not just backwards records as inverted in it's a roller coaster because it makes no difference so it's also probably has to do with footage. They happen to have filmed wounded that time right so so bernard says something about. I came back to to find someone who can help me and then we see this. Is it someone strong enough to stop up her. If it comes to that and you sign to you see stubs and bernard walking into into cold storage down in sub level eighty two and they're looking through all the bodies not yet. Oh no that is right right. That's right uh-huh dot and then it's cut to maeve and the world's best music we'll meet again. We'll meet again yeah formed by vera lynn and then we're nazi germany or maybe it's italy or britain and nazi setting ah yeah we're we actually are apparently where this was filmed was the northeast corner of spain okay and there's there's. There's a few rustic shots of nazi. Germany filmed in spain and there's also some beautiful buildings blade looks amazing modern barcelona that they found but apparently westworld season three. They kicked out the stops on the the money machine gene from h._b._o. Don't in in spain in a singapore los angeles several other places. We don't know yet yeah. We've we've heard about. A number of location shoots yeah they. They were globetrotting this time so so there's also they don't have to spend it on dragons anymore. So exactly your the address brand still can't find rogun so we're not going to see him so sorry didn't mean to spoil it for anybody like you haven't seen it yet. Don't give me that shit so sorry sorry. I'll i'll take my meds so apparently the detectives on everybody's favorite website read it <hes> have been detecting and there are several possible well names for this new park. It might be war world or nazi world or something and if you go to the delo ellos destinations dot com you can see <hes> whatever this is glittering okay you you can see westworld. You can see shogun world. You can see the raj there to other parks that are blank and then this fourth one is glittering but you can tell it's you know it's it has something to do with world war two so the question is is not only is made there but her favourite bow hector is there to what the hell are they doing there and are they aware there there in other words are they the maven hector we know or something our maven hector or a maven even hector yeah or or with some other names and <hes> we're is everybody's favorite little burden cat had felix in silvester. They're not in the trailer. We don't see them at all and we didn't see them last time either no we didn't see them in the and the trailer here. We don't see them if maven hatcher there they gotta have their posse with them right. I'm thinking felix in and so those were still around not dead and being put to work by park goons wins in the last episode right when hey laura walks off with a bag of brain balls so we know they're around so <hes> so we got something going on in this town and maeve sauntering up at the same time we cut back to dolores sauntering around and grabbing <hes> <hes> some wine and then we see may we cut to an odd building a big sphere in the middle yeah that we don't really know i assume that's where dolores partying out and then it's then it's cutting back to save and actor doing the classic isaac forties romance kiss yes <hes> with a great period clothing and then we cut to the weird one with dolores cuddling hale in bed. Yes and i'm going what the fuck and then you see. Dolores leading being aaron paul's character down a path way with his homeys his crime homeys yeah but she's also like like m._o. Dolores she's all lay it looks like black leather and like dark makeup and dark dark shadow and dark lipstick modular molars were going with that one and all like you know serious business face like that's what she's doing yeah yeah aaron. Paul is is behind finder and it looks like the people we saw him within the previous trailer are the people who are walking behind him. They're sort of out of focus. You can't see for certain there but then we got to a place with a it looks like a bunch of like roller coaster track for a second with a waterfall roller coaster track and then we cut to a room. There's apparently a famous architects house <music> somebody and read it identified.

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

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04:19 min | 3 years ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

"Discover me so scrambled my memories i couldn't risk knowing the choice i killed them all of them and strand goes yeah you said that already killed all the hosts and he goes no i killed you all of you and boom and it's cool because i you know good on you westworld even though like i don't think that it is quite as deep of a reversal as the one we got in the first season finale right and i'm not even talking about like the you know the clarification that william and the man in black were the same person i think it was more like the thing that really surprised surprised us if we look back on on talking that through was that ford had come around to arnold's way of thinking and wanted the hosts to find themselves that was like the big surprise of the finale for me certainly walking away from the first season finale and i don't think that there's quite as profound a subversion in this season finale but i think we talked a lot about how the bernard of the quote unquote strand timeline maybe there was a different host in his his body maybe that wasn't really bernard maybe it was like a ford fueled bernard but the twist is that it actually was just bernard and he's the guy who scrambled his own memories and now that makes a lot of sense in terms of like why he wasn't paying attention to his glasses the way they normally does because he didn't remember his cornerstone you know he was he was a mess he he had scrambled himself so when challenge hail kills strand are knows it stores at that point he does at that point he starts to figure it out where like the timelines are started like flashing and interweaving in and out of each other where he's saying look i made the choice i brought somebody back i brought her back and we go to the cold storage and charlotte has you know these people bring else's body onto the posh that get rid of her and then somebody's creeping around in the back in charlotte and goes and sees her and it's herself it's like toll it's a total terminator moment valkyrie did it was naked valerie naked valkyrie hilarious says you wanted to live forever be careful what you wish for and she shoots herself she shoots the other charlotte the real charlotte in the face and that's the death of charlotte hale and the charlotte that we have been seeing in the strand timeline all along is dolores in charlotte copy we've amazing and i want a rematch the entire season right now i've gone back and i've watched the charlotte scenes that i could remember from the strand timeline and it's fun it's one like when when you go back and you look at her and know that that's dolores because as dolores in the charlotte body asshole loris she's a little behind as well and she's basically waiting very patiently like she has a mirror she knows that she's not in her own body she knows that something is up but she hasn't like confided in bernard or communicated with bernard in had any kind of like what are we doing what's the plan man like he hasn't been able to tell her anything so when she's like torturing him for information and everything like that's all legit like tell me what you got going on i have no idea why you have me insuring hills body that's right okay so the scene if you have pacifico where we talked about how delicious it was the scene where charlotte hail confronts dealers abernathy they're each their own person that seen in a few episodes ago yeah yes okay totally that that's from like the main meantime line of the season that's all like the pre strand timeline i wanted to clarify yeah so at that point like they had not come into contact and when dolores as charlotte kills charlotte that is their second meeting that that is like the fulfillment of the promise of i'm going to raise your your face open sweet host charlotte's new haircut by the way yeah let's good lois good girlfriend so hilarious is here she's real she kills kosta she kills strand and.

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

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04:26 min | 3 years ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

"Very least without having signed their permissions signed off on it you know doing this without anybody's blessing is a monstrous act and i need to stop it so i think if elsie didn't die in bernard wasn't there to witness it i think getting bernard to the next step would have been really narrative we difficult so i think those are among the reasons why the show had to kill elsie here's confused after the episode was right thought was it hilarious or hail herself killed elsie because when she said i studied you i went oh my god it's her it's laura she's been in the library she studied elsie so it's charlotte hail charlotte hail kills yes and so she says she studied away in the senate so refined out that there's books to study people's profile we are to believe that elsie is human at elsie was killed by human hail because in the same way that delo s was mapping and digitizing the consciousness of the guests within the park she says here we were studying you to we were studying the employee's as okay so in studying the behavior of somebody who was as high level and important as lc charlotte has determined that she is not somebody who can be bought off she's not somebody who can be bargained with in a blackmail situation she can only be killed in order to protect herself so it's not that it was like charlotte hail studying her in the library as loris it was the actual charlotte hale who is in charge of delasin board and in a buried top position in this program of digital consciousness having studied her own employee's knowing that lc was not somebody to be dealt with in any kind of in her mind rational way other than a bullet to the chest okay i need to see where i was a bit confused only it we're studying threw me off i went would yeah that's what i mean when i say like i totally empathize with people who think this banana it was too complicated we're talking about it for two hours on well yeah like it's a lot it's a lot there's a lot going on but i enjoy it so it's worrying because you are helping me with the timeline of it all and i feel like we're doing a service to people to try to unpack it for them hopefully otherwise we're just rambling for going to be close to to our baby at least our voices are soothing in their tone and your running a mile or three right now and if that's the case then i feel like a job well done yes we have not been replaced by anyone robot overlords right so bernard is a witness to all of that he's a witnessed all of that we flash to the strand time line as that amnesiac bernard who has been brought to the forge is now starting to piece together certain memories he starting to remember stuff and he goes oh god you killed her talking to charlotte remembering that she killed elsie and charlotte bending nouns and goes did i bernard and because it's is she didn't it wasn't hurt just looks like her that's hilarious talking which is really great so she's starting to piece together like okay i gotta start wrapping this up or about to lose his shit i gotta get this going before the catch me there's a where is abernathy is control unit she's gonna find out of course it makes sense that you hit it inside delors his head because i'm dolores and i know that i am not into laurence's body anymore so it makes a lot of sense that you did the good ole switcheroo so does dolores in the end have deborah now these ball in this moment she does in this in this moment she's going to take it out of the lord her she's going to take it out of her original head at as loris she has the abernathy control unit they're going to plug that in they're gonna start encrypting it or decrypted rather they're going to be transferring it they're trying to send it out to the mainland what it actually is it's it contains the valley beyond it contains the sublime bernard has destroyed the delo project he has he has determined that he needed to destroy the dallas project and so what they think that they are uploading is the dallas project it's actually the sublime is what they're about to do so we flash.

elsie bernard two hours
"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

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03:28 min | 3 years ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

"The park for who's left i also look forward to seeing a robot rebellion in the real world in a sense you know it can't all go as planned yeah i think first of all who knows if dolores took maeve out of the park i was hoping yeah you know she has in the guise of charlotte hale who they again they referred to that as loris which is whole areas cavern app because that's the two last names oh i like that that's good too just to use the official terminology i'll laura's though i do love habur nasty she leaves with these different pearls in her purse and you don't know who she has brought are they blank slates there's you know a million different ways we can go i'm sure we'll talk about that a lot when we get to that scene maybe she brought maeve maybe maeve will be redesigned as you said by felix and silvester that certainly a strong implication in that final scene with mavis corpse in the two of them looking on i think no matter what you and i have to agree like tanny newton's coming back like i'm not worried about that at all yeah i would i would rebel you have to have my tandy back there's really no reason for for them to not bring her back there's a lot of people who die quote unquote in this episode that i still feel pretty good about coming back in some capacity at some point down the line hopefully sooner than later she's high on the list can't imagine that that's going to be something that we're going to have to wait to too long going into season three but then again we are in that period of time where we just do not know joe we know nothing jon snow and we know nothing johnston all right let's go through the episode we will do it chronologically as best as we can we'll pick it apart we'll stop to examine the things that we loved we'll theorize we'll do everything that we normally do here joe if you're ready let's let's get on that boat and get out let's get outta here alright so we start with bernard and dolores and this is nice i loved this because it not only links back to the very first thing that you see in the whole season which was that opening shot on bernard as he was being cross examined bye dolores and you don't know if that's arnold or if that's bernard over the course of the season it has really started to bear out that that's probably bernard who is being built by delors in this now he confirmed that the lord as i'm the one who built renard but i i love this first scene where he's talking about is this now and she says yeah it's a test it's one with countless times before it's trial eleven thousand nine hundred twenty seven that we've done this maybe we should change you and the question that i that i have now i know which interpretation i liked the most but is this dolores building bernard for the first time or does this i seen connect with the final scene the final precredit scene of the episode where we know that the laura's has brought bernard back to life in the quote unquote present time line that's how i read it but then her being in the black dress threw me off 'cause i she the buck yes in both scenes no but there seemed to be like some sort of shift where like maybe they got out of like their mental projections psyche whatever matrix see world and then like shifted into the real world where bernard is super naked and bernard and bernard is very cold seeming and dolores is wearing the black dress yeah i mean i read.

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables

Westworld: The Recappables

03:51 min | 3 years ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables

"It wasn't like a total total shot but i guess it could have just been it they were developing the bodies of every human who had been in the band the park except for that knowing turn that he takes full he's sitting in the survey shin room while they're walking by yeah which was i didn't know if there was supposed to be some sort of significance to that i think that there's just a deeper level of intelligence going on amongst all of these hosts in the forge where are you going to say danny i thought the beginning of the episode was terrible it was immensely frustrating because he's at this critical moment and delors just finds them and then dolores has magically like let's pair up and he's like okay and then they just find bernard they happen to meet him right there and you're like how is this whole coming together so perfectly and i think at the end of the episode after watching it i think the answer is that actually didn't happen so perfectly that it didn't actually it didn't happen to simulation or you're saying like you go back and you re you'd like interpreted differently now that you've seen it to two times i wish i actually brought my tinfoil hat with me porta my clinician is that that actually might not have been going on exactly as we thought because the elevator basically the elevator where he landed i know dunno ended up being who knows where he there's lingering questions about william of all of the catcher sure and old question here here's what we do know in this isn't like a concrete thing but we know that that whether or not he was a human or a host was a central i mean was that it was intended to be a central mystery of the season not just it's not just a crackpot read it you know group thinks experiment and then at the end we got you know told very straightforwardly so far as far as westworld goes that wasn't deed host the question i guess that remains is how long has he been host is the entire time we've known at harris was he a host die yeah we'll get to that when we talk about moving forward but anyway that's what we got with him and we also i mean we all know about his daughter either but we'll we'll get to all that well look forward at the end of the show the thing with emily that's particularly relevant again is when we first meet her she's doing her own test to discern if it's a human our hub and then that scene now seems a lot more important when she was the person who's like maybe training the host versions of her father so yeah it's almost like she she was she's the one it's not as much her father was really her who has the hardest time discerning what's real what's not yeah i mean i think the biggest question from that team for me was was emelio hostal along or actually her in the park but there's also a host version that's been training her dead again we'll get to that we look forward to the we have to touch on is dolores alright delors was the heroine of the first season more or less the villain of the second season at least from a kind of skewed sense of priorities point of view and then and this episode we see she finally gets the ford she seems to have an incredible working knowledge of what the valley beyond the forge is and the way out and then at the very and then at the very end after you know taking many many shots from guns i mean in this episode alone shack she allowed bernard shooter in the head function i mean which killed her mo functionally only to be brought back by bernard later when he decided that he so wanted the host species survive correct me if i'm getting anything wrong here guys this is she comes back charlotte hale's body escapes the island shore lewis doc three days ago danny i got dibs the so the so she comes back she she escapes the island with a bag full of brain balls and then she makes it out into the outside world where she eventually reclines bernard put some other consciousness into charlotte hale's body puts her makes her own body to put her own consciousness.

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables

Westworld: The Recappables

03:56 min | 3 years ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Westworld: The Recappables

"Couple of twists tonight that as like why like what is this actually i i started asking questions and milan to do that you can't we're to start off the show by running through the characters and we're going to get some bigger questions off the bat what what's what's bothering you what's the point of having dolores train bernard and bernard trained dolores like kind of like feedback loop of revivals and resuscitation between those i don't really get the point of that well they've got you saying free feedback loop so this is kind of like a cognitive game of telephone much versions of them exist now in so the big the big shocking moment at the two big shocking moments that came right at the end of the show i was watching people online reacting to it and they're about with about thirty minutes ago people were like wow i can't believe we know all this stuff and that was before one we found out that in the most flash forward timeline charlotte hale has been dolores the whole time and two if you stuck around for the post credit sequence and my hope you did otherwise you missed out it turned out that the man in black was confirmed i guess to be a host at least through the time that we've known him that's my biggest question is len when does william die well who do you wanna start with let's start with william we were just talking about him so we're going to run through the characters here and as quickly as possible try to figure out what just happened to them and what happened in the more broadly and where they might go from here so the first one we're going to deal with is william aka the man in black aka the legendary ed harris delivering the line of dialogue in the show so far which is damn amari in the thing that was that was the night for me it was really impressive i mean overall this was not a banner episode for at arizona for william he spent he we find him i digging in his arm to see if he's a human or a host which is where we left them last week and the answer he didn't seem to have dug far enough to find an answer yet i don't know you must have been metaphors yes exactly and then he got e it's dolores in kind of have a moment she says you know you're a monster but i need a monster to get to the valley beyond and apparently her whole plan was to bring him there so that he would shoot her and try to shoot her and shoot his own hand yeah i mean what is it what does she need a mosser vacant there and then the next like the next time that you see them their entire journey is just them riding on horseback and talking about life it's not like unless you the truest monsters alerts like she eater killed the most people so does she does she need a way man or does she need a monster julia interesting i think we spent most of the season we're not talking about the lowest but we spend we are most of the season slowly establishing delors that delors was the big bat well i guess i thought that from the beginning and we talked about this but it was unclear when we were supposed to like sense the turn from the show runners perspective we'll get to that in a minute but the men in black went and helped dolores saving bernard from those dulles guards then he tried to shoot deloris his hand he blows his own hand off any lies outside of the forage for the rest of the episode until he decides to get an elevator which takes the next thirty or forty five minutes of showtime yeah i don't think any of that happened i think that was an assimilation we'll get to that later so the very end in the final and the final scene after the credits he gets off the elevator finds his daughter emily or pray mission there of yeah and then she basically debriefs him because he's been a host this whole time and she does the whole test and just like we saw him doing to jim delo surly or in the season yeah i mean we should we should say we also saw him we saw host version of him or they they walk past one earlier in that too so.

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

Post Show Recaps

03:38 min | 3 years ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

"That spinoff first of all could be good i think that the clever time mesh network be a great web series i would watch that as well but yet it's actually looks i think it's a lot harder that looks to play that role of i am host that i big used to make people bird each other and i have to say why died and still yeah it's pretty good so she's just like standing there in the in her like little glass room watching as she resurrects through the mesh network that charlotte and her people are now manipulating she is able to raise the dead much the way that may've can control the other hosts and she's having them like tear each other apart and charlotte is pumped up she loves this questions first of all bernard is right there and he's not affected by the mesh network why great question is it because she has to like directed at the hosts that she is aware of course base is it she program to do just the people in the room right is it a nolan 'isms possible also say where in that facility is made because can maeve see what's happening right right great question thinking about can she control come and time it seemed like when maeve was when she was listening to teach at a story last week it seemed like she was not exactly present when sizemore was talking to her as sad as that way i is more so i wonder i i wonder if she if she can only like if it's not that like she has like omni focus but she can use the mesh network to like hyper focus on the things she needs to hype in on well it makes me really sad about charlotte hale which hurts hurting me the big bad is auto basically said is we're going to have to see the finale cleven clementine verses maeve sort of showdown potentially which i do not like i don't like it for the reasons that it is sad yeah i love it for the potential for it to be alive action dragon ball z moment okay and they're just like do pinning each other i know that's a streetfighter reference it's a commie highest what i'm supposed to say which is drink you expected sorry sorry sorry sorry all right so so bernard is going to he wants to get out of there he needs to go find elsie for it's not yet i still have one thing for you to do before we go we'll get back to that in a minute we're still we're back with men in black and emily he's still kind of questioning like what are you doing here how did you find me this is a huge place you could be here for months and never find someone you're looking for and so clearly he's still just kind of trying to suss out that she and she is just another vessel for ford and she brings up the project your little project that you're that you're trying to do that uncle logan used to talk about your pursuit of immortality there's always an angle with you it's about being in control he says it has nothing to do with control and he says what's your angle and she says i want in and that's not really what she wants again i think that's just yes but that's where i feel i know that people say you'll be able to say logan said no they can tell us logano debate i think logan's alive in it sounds like him talking through her yeah i hope so because i would love i still would love to see somebody awesome stepping in as old man logan i think there's so much else that has to.

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

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03:56 min | 3 years ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

"The valley beyond the valley beyond is not meant for the death bringer according to goes nation but dolores says it no it was meant for the people who built this place tool to ensure their immortality and i'm going to use it against them goes nation argues that it's not a tool it's a door to a new world that's untouched by blood deloris says your new world is just another one of their tracks it's not a paradise for us the only real world is the one outside these borders so stopping there to just like unpack what we think the door represents and what the valley beyond represents it does seem to me based on the way that they're talking about this place it seems like they're talking about like some sort of digital world right like because she's talking about the only real world is the one outside these borders and your new world is just another one of their traps right because i still think that the value beyond is a storage facility of both brain balls and skin suits so like ritz rebuild using dna of everybody under the cold storage under the water and the way delors talks about it is like when she's flashing back to her experience in the actual world there's a door to the outside world yeah it's fascinating because i asked to think about the fact that goes nation was basically tried to recruit mavis saying your path is the same as ours whereas they're telling tiller and get the f away from us dead they don't trust the loris yeah no faith the lawrence whatsoever yeah i mean it seems like they're very aware of her different endgame well dolores and goes nation or not going to be able to come to terms on this one battle breaks out teddy and dolores are the lone survivors from their side of the aisle akitas best friend whose name i do not recall off the top of my head he escapes ease able to get out of there and that's our first glimpse that evil teddy quite as evil starting to resist just to touch the twins twitching teddy twitching daddy twitchy teddy reminding his last week's episode is so beautiful than i forgot how it ended but where is the key to akita and his people are heading toward the door and says the death bringer has returned it's time to head towards the door and he tells me that he'll watch out over maid's daughter and maeve join us if you can and if not die well and she says take my heart okay thank you thank you i have to say that it you know not this was a bottle of a soviet was physically about williamson end it's so interesting i found myself far more affected by the story of the host of a keach that influenced him i definitely agree and i think that because this episode has it's it's it's kind of a chess pieces episode yeah it's it's a lot of table setting for whatever's going to happen in the finale it it does feel that way them the man in black story is the most personal story of the episode outside of like the dolores in teddy thing but the bank of there's only two scenes of them and i know that they've been building towards this all season long i felt like i needed a little bit more for that to have like full impacts for me i loved the flash of teddy coming online that was that was that was a beautiful moment james marsden played the hell out of that but there's just a lot happening in this episode almost too much for me especially coming off the heels of of the the really amazing qixia not that this was a bad episode by any stretch of the imagination i think it just had a lot of heavy lifting that it had to do it's the what they died for it the right place it's the episode drink drink drink drink drink all right so let's go to the mesa bernard walking around he is spying on charlotte hale who has brought the clementine shell back to back to life angeles rafi and is really spectacular in in this series just playing all of these different terminators she's just so good i would totally watch the heck out.

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on The Nerd Soup Podcast

The Nerd Soup Podcast

01:30 min | 3 years ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on The Nerd Soup Podcast

"Yeah but i think teddy thinks bernard and arnold the same person but that's interesting because maybe could be because i thought maybe like benard and maybe floors might be connected to that interweb and that's why he's able to access some of the things she remembers between her and arnold but it could just be that arnold consciousness memories are slowly seeping into bernard i have a crazy theory it's probably going to be really wrong but fuck it why not this is wrong whenever we can let you live it down yeah it's alright whatever i take chances benard when he grabs thing is that that's got to be like one of if you put it into a host body like is that what is that that he grabs dna i think it's a brain it's a brain that's that's what i thought it was okay so hear me out i know it's going to get a little crazy but i think that benard that's ford's dna puts it into peter abernathy that's why peter abernathy is acting all twitchy and everything and you see that abernathy actually has that like five second ford quote when bernard's messing around with him and bernard season he's like oh my god i think that abernathy is actually ford ford's last narrative was why why it being the loris deloris is father peter abernathy why it's father being ford boom the connections are there the only thing is that ford once again what had to have manipulated charlotte hale into uploading all that information into abernathy.

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"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

Post Show Recaps

02:05 min | 3 years ago

"charlotte hale" Discussed on Post Show Recaps

"Totally that's a fun character combination i just really went lc back so i'm just going to go with it i'll do anything bring back shannon woodward shan woodward is awesome bring elsie back tell us what the hell happ i wanna know hardy thinking of justin timberlake i'm bringing elsie back version of bringing sexy back so somebody's on that yeah exactly i'm into good let's see i think i think that goes crazy theories for this one but i do think that the door is obviously the weapon so the doors of the game up that is leading william based robert ford robert ford is leading to the women yeah i think so too i think i think one of the things that's that's being set up here is this sort of like parallel structure of dolores riding toward the valley beyond the man in black seemingly riding toward the same thing so we are on yet another collision course with these two characters i think that that feels very palpable to me as well and then lastly since i can't have charlotte be bernard's arnold daughter i would like her to be i i'm success with this in i think that tests thompsons amazing i think that her being made daughter just wanna see tanny intesa thompson together i don't be have yet not that i can recall seems like it would be by design and the fact that when angry old william went into the park and then killed maven her daughter with such vengeance in now the tables of turn into made is trying to find that daughter i feel like it's gonna come to a head and if it really interesting showdown with with charlotte hale ends no i think i would love to see those two actresses together as well i've noticed that tessa thompson it looks like she got her her name bumped up in the credits although i haven't gone back and check to see like what her place it was in season in one but the credits in in season two if i'm not mistaken.

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