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"charles charles manson" Discussed on WBBM Newsradio

WBBM Newsradio

01:39 min | 2 months ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on WBBM Newsradio

"Two cents man his name is William million phone number rose and then the kids his name is Charles Charles Manson isn't she pretty well the Pentagon has officially released three short videos captured by the navy of what they're calling unexplained aerial phenomena well they recently declassified video that had previously been published by private companies circulated online the footage shows what appears to be unidentified flying objects UFOs traveling at rapid speeds according to the Pentagon the decision to release the video was made to quote clear up any misconceptions by the public whether the videos were real the navy's blue angels and air forces Thunderbirds came together to honor workers on the front lines today the planes actually flew over New York City parts of New Jersey and Philadelphia the military's calling the Saluda mereka strong the mission is after the first of many multi city flyovers which will focus on the areas hit the hardest by the corona virus well despite the pandemic one family was able to throw a very special ninetieth birthday bash do you would force daughter said that her mother is the backbone of their family and the party was a dream come true she even got a surprise serenade or Sacramento whole we love you we love you facemask.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on Tales

Tales

03:47 min | 5 months ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on Tales

"This time he spent more than half his life behind bars. It made his prison cell feel more like home than any place. He knew. Okay with that Greg now has two point. Sodas four to two in favor of Vanessa. Well we now know Charles Charles. Manson the early years so as we bring this round to close. Let's transition from prison to freedom in California after being released Manson made. It is way to San Francisco right as the summer of Love was starting on the hippie culture at the time boded well for Manson's unconventional lifestyle and love of of Hallucinogenic Drugs and he began attracting groupies soon. He was pushing religious philosophies on them so for question number. Eight which spiritual figure did. Several followers soon compare to Charles Manson a Jesus. Christ be the the Dalai Lama see Muhammad Vanessa. Jesus Christ a just that is right. Jesus Christ is right. Manson began talking about the the end of the world and the judgement of humanity which only pushed their comparisons to Jesus more so it is now five. Two in favor of Vanessa Soon Manson and his his family of six women move towards Los Angeles settling in various areas. This is when Manson's interest in being a singer. Songwriter comes into play but for question number nine which member of the beach boys did they meet and move in with for a summer. A Dennis. Wilson B Brian Wilson C.. Carl Wilson. Greg Be Brian Wilson that his his incorrect on frayed. Do you have. I guess. A Dennis Wilson. Dennis Wilson is correct. He meant to of Manson's followers when he picked him up hitchhiking king on Sunset Boulevard and took them to his rental home. Little did he know the entire family would eventually show up and stay. Manson even shared his desire to be a musician with Wilson who introduced him to industry contacts including executive Terry Melcher. Who Time lived on Cielo drive in Los Angeles? Louis okay. The score stands at six to two in favor of Vanessa. How after Dennis Wilson purposely let his lease expire and moved out of his rental home Manson and his followers discovered what would become their headquarters in the San Fernando Valley question number ten to finish out this round? What was the name? Some of the ranch where the Manson family would become famously based a Panga ranch be spawn. Ranch see see cal Amigos Ranch Greg be spahn ranch. That's correct now. The spahn ranch was an old fifty five edgar movie. Ranch used for Westerns in Chatsworth California. And it's where Manson would settle his family and really begin to push. His Armageddon. Conspiracies Parisi's okay. With that point greg is up to three and Vanessa still has six and we are now at the halfway mark. We've followed Manson from troubled child to full blown California cult leader when we come back the trivia gets more difficult in round two as we get into Charles Manson's since teachings that ultimately lead to murder and one of our players will be eliminated from the game. Why looking can get me to find out what happens next? Listen to killer knowledge free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts..

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on Not Guilty

Not Guilty

03:47 min | 5 months ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on Not Guilty

"By this time he spent more than half his life behind bars. It made his prison cell feel more like home than any place. He knew. Okay with that Greg now has two point. Sodas four to two in favor of Vanessa. Well we now know Charles Charles. Manson the early years so as we bring this round to close. Let's transition from prison to freedom in California after being released Manson made. It is way to San Francisco right as the summer of Love was starting on the hippie culture at the time boded well for Manson's unconventional lifestyle and love of of Hallucinogenic Drugs and he began attracting groupies soon. He was pushing religious philosophies on them so for question number. Eight which spiritual figure did. Several followers soon compare to Charles Manson a Jesus. Christ be the the Dalai Lama see Muhammad Vanessa. Jesus Christ a just that is right. Jesus Christ is right. Manson began talking about the the end of the world and the judgement of humanity which only pushed their comparisons to Jesus more so it is now five. Two in favor of Vanessa Soon Manson and his family of six women move towards Los Angeles settling in various areas. This is when Manson's interest in being a singer. Songwriter comes into play but for question number nine. which member of the beach boys did they meet and move in with for a summer? A Dennis Wilson B. Brian Wilson C.. Carl Wilson Greg. Be Brian Wilson that his his incorrect on frayed. Do you have. I guess a Dennis Wilson. Dennis Wilson is correct. He meant to of Manson's followers when he picked him up hitchhiking king on Sunset Boulevard and took them to his rental home. Little did he know the entire family would eventually show up and stay. Manson even shared his desire to be a musician with Wilson who introduced him to industry contacts including executive Terry Melcher. Who at the time lived on Cielo drive in Los Angeles? Louis okay. The score stands at six to two in favor of Vanessa. How after Dennis Wilson purposely let his lease expire and moved out of his rental home Manson and his followers discovered what would become their headquarters in the San Fernando Valley question number ten to finish out this round? What was the name? Some of the ranch where the Manson family would become famously based a Panga ranch be spawn. Ranch see see cal Amigos Ranch Greg be spahn ranch. That's correct now. The spahn ranch was an old fifty five edgar movie. Ranch used for Westerns in Chatsworth California. And it's where Manson would settle his family and really begin to push. His Armageddon. Conspiracies Parisi's okay. With that point greg is up to three and Vanessa still has six and we are now at the halfway mark. We've followed followed. Manson from troubled child to full blown California cult leader. When we come back the trivia gets more difficult in round two as we get into Charles Manson's since teachings that ultimately lead to murder and one of our players will be eliminated from the game? Why looking can get me to find out what happens next? Listen to killer knowledge free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts..

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on Female Criminals

Female Criminals

03:46 min | 5 months ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on Female Criminals

"Time he spent more than half his life behind bars. It made his prison cell feel more like home than any place. He knew. Okay with that Greg now has two point. Sodas four to two in favor of Vanessa. Well we now know Charles Charles. Manson the early years so as we bring this round to close. Let's transition from prison to freedom in California after being released Manson made. It is way to San Francisco right as the summer of Love was starting on the hippie culture at the time boded well for Manson's unconventional lifestyle and love of of Hallucinogenic Drugs and he began attracting groupies soon. He was pushing religious philosophies on them so for question number. Eight which spiritual figure did. Several followers soon compare to Charles Manson a Jesus. Christ be the the Dalai Lama see Muhammad Vanessa. Jesus Christ a just that is right. Jesus Christ is right. Manson began talking about the the end of the world and the judgement of humanity which only pushed their comparisons to Jesus more so it is now five. Two in favor of Vanessa Soon Manson and his his family of six women move towards Los Angeles settling in various areas. This is when Manson's interest in being a singer. Songwriter comes into play but for question number nine which member of the beach boys did they meet and move in with for a summer. A Dennis. Wilson B Brian Wilson C.. Carl Wilson. Greg Be Brian Wilson that his his incorrect on frayed. Do you have. I guess. A Dennis Wilson. Dennis Wilson is correct. He meant to of Manson's followers when he picked him up hitchhiking king on sunset boulevard and took them to his rental home. Little did he know the entire family would eventually show up and stay. Manson even shared his desire to be a musician with Wilson who introduced him to industry contacts including executive Terry Melcher. Who at the time lived on Cielo drive in Los Angeles? Louis okay. The score stands at six to two in favor of Vanessa. How after Dennis Wilson purposely let his lease expire and moved out of his rental home Manson and his followers discovered what would become their headquarters in the San Fernando Valley question number ten to finish out this round? What was the name? Some of the ranch where the Manson family would become famously based a Panga ranch be spawn. Ranch see see cal Amigos Ranch Greg be spahn ranch. That's correct now. The spahn ranch was an old fifty five edgar movie. Ranch used for Westerns in Chatsworth California. And it's where Manson would settle his family and really begin to push. His Armageddon. Conspiracies Parisi's okay. With that point greg is up to three and Vanessa still has six and we are now at the halfway mark. We've followed Manson from troubled child to full blown California cult leader when we come back the trivia gets more difficult in round two as we get into Charles Manson's since teachings that ultimately lead to murder and one of our players will be eliminated from the game. Why looking can get me to find out what happens next? Listen to killer knowledge free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts..

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

Unstructured Interviews

14:00 min | 5 months ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on Unstructured Interviews

"He signed onto being LAPD double agent. Basically that was that was the end of his freedoms now back to the altar and all that I did find a book called spiritualism or SPIRITISM BY G H S. Two books are you follow. ESTA Brooks Yeah I'm sorry to tell you that. ESTA Brooks in. My research is one of those guys even middle of mind control. He's like Sidney gottlieb kind of character. He's like the Louis Jolyon west of UCLA who did Mind Control Control Experiments. You know the CIA gave huge amounts of money. The Not only to you know what you would think be. You know typical prisons prisons but also to universities you know to journalists William F. Buckley was on the CIA payroll Eric. So you get a sense of how insidious their influence was back. Then the unabomber. If I recall was part of the experiments show me say. I've heard that as well home so so I guess you get A sense of Reagan and of course Nixon being president and their sense of militarism and paranoia toward what was considered to be a possible revolution. And I don't think we'll ever see it's like again in. US history for literally. Yeah yeah literally I was just GonNa say Eric People like Reagan and younger and Richard. Nixon believed there was going to be a military attempt at overthrowing the US government which I think is absurd. Well they were being. There was a a lot of people who are feeding that stuff too. It's like I couldn't help but think of parallels with Colin Westbrook and how he was sort of running you know donald freeze but then. There's some speculation about Krishna. VENTA being influence on Charles Manson and all of these guys had this running theme of well. Okay I'm it's hard to get my thoughts together but I found it very interesting that you were talking about the worries of I guess you say Black Revolution and they were emulating the situation with the SLA. But Charles Manson was emulating that situation or his family's emulating that situation as well in the opposite one of the things I talk about on the Etro tour a bus tour of Manson land God bless Richard and Kim because they have introduced me to people in the La Sheriff's department and the it once again it's the Black Panthers it turns out that there's an angle by which Manson's since followers especially the quote unquote girls were trading dynamite found in abandoned gold mines in California uh with Black Panthers And in exchange the girls brought back to Manson's group guns and one day the Black Panthers there's greeted Manson's girls with the dynamite and said thank you. Now get the hell Outta here or before we kill you. And that was the end the relationship so the L. L. A. P. D. and the La Sheriff's both could have arrested while they did arrest Charles Manson and his followers initially and then let them out and then the infamous murders happen they could have kept them in jail and basically my research reveals through. You know Richard in Kim helping me that the LAPD and and the sheriff's Department thought that there was going to be an a violent engagement between Charles Manson's followers and the Black Panthers and they left them out. They're hoping for that engagement. So that they could sweep up and arrest any black panthers so so there's a similarity in terms of the theme of we'll do anything to break up the Black Panthers enters Between revolutions and and of course the Manson murders and would it be fair speculation. I've always kind of felt that Charles Manson himself was nowhere near as dynamic or fantastic as as billing. Well if you're talking about as music music Eric I would tend to agree with you. I think it's pretty bland Charles Manson again. I like because I've I started writing in writing feeder when I write a non fiction book I want the protagonist no matter how negative to be three dimensional. Sure and and without apologizing Charles Manson. You've got to remember that. His mother was a prostitute never knew his father he was raped in jail and within the reformatories and he was not a normal guy before he got out of his teams. I agree so one thing he learned was how to manipulate violate young women to to tell them they were beautiful. He learned from Dale Carnegie. He actually worked for a while for scientology. What was wild he were you got cut off? Yeah he was he was a guy who worked for scientology in Hollywood. And we're and we're trying to recruit people and that didn't work out so well my good friend Paul Krassner who we lost. Not Too long ago had done a lot of really great articles about the SLA in about Manson found out that Manson was let go by scientologist because he was a a little creepy but he wanted the reason he studied. Eric is he wanted to learn how to manipulate the the women that would basically become his family and again without going. Too far down the rabbit hole. The Manson land tour talks about the fact that he watching completely in control of the family. Exactly why Tex Watson and Linda Kosabe Ian were running drug deals without his is knowing it Tex Watson introduced Charles Manson to Sharon Tate. We wasn't a random murder so if you take week if you take Quentin Tarantino's amusing movie and you take Tom O'Neill's chaos book which is twenty years of here. All all the people I met and I still don't know what happened. And you set all that aside and say this guy was a lunatic who manipulated people. And he was burning people on drug deals and the people in his family got out of control and and killed people without his authorization nation. You have a better understanding of what Manson was about. And if you look into then Bouli. OC who wrote helter skelter which sold a couple million copies sir. You understand that. He was accused of prosecutorial misconduct. Because he he was trying to use Susan Atkins as a star witness. And the man tonight said you testify against Charleen. You're in big trouble. So all of a sudden she was unreliable liable and Buluwayo say was stuck with Linda Ca Sabin and he said you know. Put your hair up in pigtails and look innocent. Well forget the fact that you were one of the biggest LSD dealers in Boston will forget the fact that you and Tex Watson were burning people in drug deals in Los Angeles Angeles and you will testify that Charles Manson ordered the murders. And if you do that we will give you immunity. And if you don't do that you you will never see the light of day again. This pretty common honestly it's unique to The Manson family. I mean they're always trying to flip somebody sure but in essence they're flipping. Linda Kosabe Ian to lie so so actually Bouli. OC is also Guilty of of Leaking stuff to the press which could have created a mistrial and Charles Manson could've walked and and part of all of this. I guess the best way to wrap this part up part of all this is that they had a legitimate fear the LA DA's office and that fear was if Charles Manson was ripping off people with drugs and Tex Watson and Bobby Beausoleil went crazy in drug burns and killed somebody in a panic. Charles Charles Manson is an accessory and in one thousand nine hundred seventy and accessory to murder could get eighteen months. Can you imagine what the world interest in the Manson murders. What would have happened if the La da even if they got convictions actions against the others? If Charles Manson only got eighteen months they had to lie and say that he ordered the murders nothing. He's a good guy and then it should have walked free but there was no way in hell and again it's ever younger. Are Powell who worked with Ronald Reagan and the SLA Soleil was ever younger. Who basically went to Buoy Osi? Who was two years in the? DA's office went around the DA. who was in charge? WHO said? Hey it's just a bunch of drug burns and and younger realized that Bouli Osi was saying not only. Could it turn our reputation if Manson gets accessory but it will make our reputation in our careers if we say. He's the Spin Golly who hypnotize people to murder rap thing. They're just a bunch of burnout to screwed up in drug burns. And that my friend is the inside nine-story of the Manson murders. Since truthfully nobody would really care if it wasn't for Sharon tate same way nobody really care about the SLA without Patty. Hearst this is this is very true which is a kind of a sad comment because when you when you think about you know what the LAPD in the CIA a were doing. It's terrible it. It's a horrible history and people should know more about this stuff but again people perceive it as radical politics and it doesn't sell and so forth and so on ask you about that a little bit because you you know admittedly elise year I guess Somewhere to the left of Bernie Sanders. We're looking at practical guy. I know that when Elizabeth Warren says I I want Medicare for all that she's making a huge tactical error the politician because to not recognize. That's how powerful the health industry and big Pharma is in. This country is to just be naive. Like they're the things that you and I want in World Eric and then there are things that are possible given the system. You can't boil the ocean now. That's not where I was going where I was going to sit. I I look at you know a lot of stuff. There happened there in. It's obviously from the laugh. Door would be perceived as left. But they're also have been some Bruce Miss Justices or you know real questions about things going to the right and you know a lot of people say that Waco way out of hand and there are there. Instances like that because Waco kind of generated forget the other one ruby rich sorry Ruby Ridge route in college by most as terror waivers and they were hard core right winging borderline Nazis. I I know of that but I'm kind end of wondering if this is not a government. That's anti laughed. Maybe it's just it's a government that's anti anti-government does that make sense it. It's kind of. I'm curious because I've been on Shows we're the host is far right but what they appreciate about. My research is that I'm saying look at what these agencies have done in the name of justice and the law so you it's kind of you all of a sudden there's a middle middle ground shirt now of course if I talked about you know forgiving college debt. They go get off my show. But you know there's this interesting middle ground on of of people who do not trust the government and of course you know if Congress is at sixteen percent and you know. Donald Trump's impeached reached obviously. There's a huge movement in this country. Rejecting trust in government. The question is how do you change the system to make it better. there's so many things that prevent that lobbying You know campaign finance reform. you know citizens united there. There are so many things that enabled this system that a lot of people say. Hey lobbying thing is a form of graft it's a it's a an industry paying someone in order to look at the bills that they wants. Shouldn't it on the floor of Congress. Well that doesn't sound very very democratic to me. But that's the way our country operates so wild well DI radical but then you say okay..

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on Cults

Cults

09:57 min | 6 months ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on Cults

"A list of episodes that we used will be posted in the episode description today. We're discussing cases of psychological manipulation. What tactics to criminals use to deceive coerce coerce and exert control over their victims? Why does it work? And most importantly what are the dangerous consequences of these types of mental domination psychiatrist Harvey Saint Clair defined psychological manipulation as a psychosocial maneuver which uses aggressiveness Restiveness Cleverness and deception to influence others so they will give gratification to the aggressor this gratification. Whether that being taking hostage cultivating followers or seducing murder victim is the driving force behind the criminals manipulative actions. They desire to gain absolute control over their prey. Prey Psychologists George Simon identified many tactics manipulators used to dominate their victims such as intense flattery. Playing the victim to to gain sympathy and undermining victims perception of reality through gas lighting. So who do manipulators target. How do they select the right person? PERSON TO FALL PREY TO THEIR SCHEME DR. Harriet breaker identified. The most common traits victims of manipulation possess among them are an eagerness to please these low self reliance desire to earn acceptance of blurry sense of identity and a fear of disapproval in our clips. Today will walk through a variety righty of criminal manipulators and see how they identify these traits victims. We'll start with a clip it from podcast original crimes of passion covering one of the most well known cases of manipulation in true crime history. The Manson family by manipulating in group and out group dynamics in the late nineteen sixties murderer and cult leader Charles Manson radicalized as followers and cultivated and intense devotion that propelled the family to do his bidding while the most famous killings committed by the Manson family where the Tate Lubyanka murders in August of nineteen. sixty-nine their first victim was drug dealer. Gary Hinman hints murder was the catalyst for a string of brutal. Oh killings carried out by the Manson family in the summer of sixty nine in July of nineteen sixty nine Charles learned. The two men were in the midst of argument. Bobby Beausoleil had purchased a thousand tabs of Mescaline from Gary Hinman but he then claimed that the drugs were tainted tainted. Bobby wanted his money back. Charles figured that as long as bobby was asking for a refund he should demand some extra cash to help fund the families because in exchange Charleston over a few family members to Henman's house to put pressure on him Charles knew that Henman was particularly attracted to Manson family member L.. Joe Bayly so. He suggested she go along to help. Persuade Henman but L. A.. Joe Asked to be excused from duty. Perhaps she guests. That visit might become violent. She later said that she witnessed the family members. Arguing over which guns and weapons. They would bring Henman's apartment instead. Charleston family members. Bruce Davis Susan Atkins and Mary Brunner to act as enforcers. They held the drug dealer up up at gunpoint. While the spurn Bobby Beausoleil beat him senseless eventually Henman agreed to sign over the pink slips to his two vehicles as payment. But when Bobby called Charles let him know he wasn't satisfied he was sure Henman must have money stashed away for the next two days. Bobby Mary Brenner and Susan. Atkins held Gary Hinman hostage. In his home they continue to make demands for money while bobby relentlessly beat him. When Henman told them he'd go to the gleese bobby was spooked? He might go to prison for what he done. He called Charles. Who said you know what to do? Bobby took that as a command to silence Henman by killing him before I continue with Bobby Psychology. cleese note that I am not a licensed psychiatrist or psychologist but I have done a lot of research for the show. The the American Psychological Association has expressed skepticism. That people can be brainwashed into acting violently but some psychologists point to countless examples of people falling under a violent cult influence and going on to do the unthinkable licensed mental health. Counselor Stephen Hasson use we use the rise of al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups as modern examples of how people can be indoctrinated into committing murder. These extremist groups have radicalized individuals through isolation limiting access to outside information and instilling an US versus them and Talapity. Charles Charles Manson uses same tactics. Family members looked Charles as their only source of wisdom and guidance. Some even thought he was the reincarnation nation of Jesus Christ Charles exploited their trust to make them believe they had to take a stand against rich and powerful pigs of the outside world. The family wasn't just willing to kill for their God Charles. They were proud to do it. So when Charles gave the word bobby readily obeyed he stabbed Henman then dipped his hand in the dying man's blood to draw on the wall he wrote a little piggy and then painted a pawprint. Charles had instructed Bobby to leave evidence incriminating donating the Black Panthers. He hoped Henman's death would heighten racial tensions and help kickoff helter skelter. Then the group left after taking Henman's cars with them in this episode covering the Manson Family Gary Hinman murder was only the first in a series of killings soon after the family slaughtered actress Sharon Tate and eight other innocent people all in a bid to kick-start Manson's prophesied race wars but Manson's use of fear and violence was an opposition to many other criminals the HIPPIE era instead they capitalized on the prevailing philosophy of peace and love in this next clip from cults we examined one of the most iconic psychedelic cults of the Nineteen Seventy S. The source family unlike Charles Manson the source families charismatic leader. Jim Baker. You're relied on ideas. Like enlightenment and free love to bind. His disciples to him like Manson Baker was at the center of the source family but instead of acting as a warrior he became their spiritual father offering them love and wisdom in exchange for their loyalty ultimately however this manipulation installation created an all consuming dynamic of extreme dependency between Baker and his disciples what appeared to be a mutually beneficial relationship. was actually in the service of Baker's Crowing Ego Jim Baker typically responded to complex problems by running away from them but this time he didn't cut and run this could be because as psychoanalyst. Daniel Shaw points out in his book. Traumatic narcissism relational systems of subjugation. Listen as a cult leader. Baker developed a codependent relationship with his followers. Shaw writes quote the power that parents have as God like figures to literally give life and sustain. The lives of their children leaves each human being with the memory of total dependency cult leaders tap app into and reactivate this piece of the human psyche. Followers are encouraged to become regressed and Infanta licensed to believe that their life depends pens. Unpleasing the culture and quote and just as much as the source family members needed over. He apparently needed them. According to Shaw the cult leader does not escape dependency instead he and also in many cases she comes to depend on his followers to worship and adore your him to reflect his narcissistic delusion of perfection. In March one thousand nine hundred seventy three. The fifty one year old Baker managed to find a second can home for his followers which they called the Father House a three bedroom three bathroom home. In the hills near the source restaurant it was significantly vacantly smaller than the mother house. A fact that would soon lead to deadly health risks in some ways life at the Father House went on just as it had at the mother house else. Business at the source was still booming and it still required a few dozen family members to run at each day everyone still gathered for four. Am Meditation Tation and spent much of the day cleaning while seeking enlightenment but in other ways everything changed. Baker began channeling new beliefs constantly. Instantly with an ever-expanding emphasis on his own power. He began calling himself by the Jewish name for God Yoga. He taught about the the freemasons and ancient Egyptian magic for his followers. The pursuit of enlightenment became like a whirlwind game in which no one knew the rules.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

11:09 min | 7 months ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on Parcast Presents: Summer of '69

"Bickers track record with the old world didn't bode well for the sources success and the source might have gone on just the same way if not for two key events that took place right after he opened it. The first of these events was that Dora left more of a party girl world than businesswoman. Dora had no interest in running a restaurant and took off on an extended vacation to France right when Baker needed her. The most Baker responded by illegally marrying another woman in her absence a young Sufi named Mila. And if that weren't crazy enough Dora to married someone what else. While she was abroad. One can only imagine the scene. When Dora came back to Los Angeles possibly to tell Baker she had met someone and found him already married to someone else? Baker's new wife was outraged to me Dora so much so that she had her marriage to Baker annulled then doors. New husband found out about Baker Acre and had his marriage with Dora. Dora newly ditched by her French husband officially divorced Baker and for the first time since he was nineteen gene. The forty-seven-year-old Jim Baker found himself alone. Beyond its comedic finale. What's fascinating about this? Incident is how Baker interpreted terported it. Afterwards he had illegally married another woman indoors absence yet. He felt until his dying day that Dora had abandoned him. mm-hmm and according to the source families historian Isis Baker. Never got over it. Maybe that was why he thought himself in such a vulnerable place the night right. He met his third and final. Surrogate Father Yogi Bahujan. This meeting was the second event that came from opening the source restaurant and it would lead to Baker's acres final transformation Yogi Badgen was a Pakistani Sikh who traveled the world in the nineteen sixties teaching the practice of Kunda leany yoga distinguished from other forms of yoga by its emphasis on the central nervous system. COON deline uses meditation chanting and controlled breathing exercises to release spiritual energy thought to originate originate at the base of the spine. Baljit combined the practice of Kundun. Leany Yoga with seek traditions such as vegetarian. Diet avoidance of Drugs and alcohol and to style of dress that included long flowing robes and a white turban starting in the late sixties budget and picked up a few western Western ideologies as well in nineteen sixty nine he came to America on a Green Card procured by one of his students. Rock and roll legend Johnny Rivers at the time rivers was playing with a group called the fifth dimension which had a hit song called Aquarius. Let the sunshine in Yogi barge. Unlike the idea of a dawning aquarian aquarian age and incorporated into his teaching. Thus he developed a unique blend of Yoga Sikhism and Western astrology that resonated did with everything baker had been studying since he was a child. It was a master disciple match made in heaven but within a year bakers experiences and says with John would set him and his followers on a path toward a living. Hell coming up. We'll walk the road to hell now back to the story in May of nineteen sixty nine about a month after opening the source restaurant forty seven year old. Jim Baker attended the party that would change the trajectory of his life forever. What seemed to be a run of the mill Shindig at the home of Vegetarian Cookbook? Author took a turn when when the hostess introduced her. Special Guest world-famous Kunda leany master Yogi. John Baker regarded this so-called master Sir with competitive disdain. Through his years is a popular restaurant. Owner Bakker had become used to being the center of attention but tonight the bearded turban-wearing urban wearing Yogi was getting all the looks and Baker. Didn't like it if this party had taken place a few weeks earlier Baker might have had a wife for to to keep company but now he was alone which seems to have contributed to his decision to make a hasty exit as Baker was leaving the party however he he felt a hand on his arm. The famous Yogi Badgen had reached out to stop him. According to Isis aquarian Baljit looked baker. Deepen the eyes and and said quote son. I'm holding meditation in the morning and I want you to come and quote. Isis claims. The word son had a life altering impact on Baker and based on how he behaved next that seems to be the case. Baker immediately began attending Bodgit's Yoga and meditation classes classes on a daily basis. Although he had studied religion and spirituality for decades Baker had never professed adherence to any one belief system but within months of meeting Badgen he converted to Sikhism began growing out his hair and beard and started dressing in all white robes in solidarity with with his master. We've seen Baker behaved like this with his previous two surrogate fathers immersing himself in their philosophies and adopting their beliefs but with Badgen Baker went even further and he began claiming that Budgen was the father of the coming new age and had cards placed on all the tables at the source. Restaurant brought declaring that Yogi. John was God. This was a fascinating display of devotion by a man who within less than a year would become the leader leader of his own cult and the intensity of his behavior suggests that something deeper was at play bakers devotion to Belgian developed at lightning speed and in the wake of what he considered to be abandonment by his wife. Dora taken together. These two facts may indicate that Baker was experiencing some form form of reactive attachment disorder. According to the American Psychiatric Association reactive attachment disorder is a trauma disorder that develops out the feelings of parental abandonment during early childhood symptoms include impulsively lacking a sense of belonging and an inability to develop and maintain tain significant relationships. Because it can only be diagnosed between nine months and five years of age a time. Baker's life when his mother is certainly didn't have the means to take him to a psychiatrist. We don't know whether Baker actually had reactive attachment disorder. But it would help explain. His almost obsessive need for connection Yogi. Jogi badgen responded to Baker's overzealousness by attempting to set boundaries. I he sent men to the source to remove all the cards Baker at place. They're proclaiming that budget was God. This turned out to be ineffective as Baker replaced the cards the next day so Bahujan up the stakes. Banning Baker Acre from his Ashram Baker responded by breaking in overnight then waiting for budget to arrive for meditation the next morning. This situation might quickly glee of spiraled out of control if it weren't for the fact that Baker's need for attachment soon found relief in a young woman named Robin Popper. Baker met Robin in the summer of sixty nine about three months after Dora divorced him. Baker was forty seven years old. Robin was nineteen eighteen and enjoyed hanging out at the source wearing nothing but a white bikini like Dora. Robin was a wild child a hard partying. Hollywood nymphet unfit who enjoyed drugs and rock and roll unlike her predecessor. However Robin was not attracted to Baker? He asked her out over and over and Robin repeatedly turned him down saying he was too old. As with Yogi Bahujan Baker showed little respect for Robbins boundaries and lacked awareness of how to build an appropriate opiate relationship. He began following Robin and his car down Sunset Boulevard calling to her out the window and begging her to go out with them some might. I never reported Baker to the police for stocking but the nineteen year old robin decided to handle things differently. Decision which would drastically alter the course of her life on August eighth nineteen. sixty-nine Brabin was strolling down sunset on her way to meet up with a friend. Bigger began following her down the street street in his car. Saying if she didn't go out with them he would never leave her alone. Robin made Baker a deal. She would go out with him that night if he would promised Thomas not to ask her again. Bigger agreed and robin went out with him instead of going to see her friend in a bizarre twist of fate that friend rand turned out to be the pregnant actress. Sharon tate later that night August eighth nineteen sixty-nine followers of the infamous cult leader. Charles Charles Manson broke into Sharon. Tate's house murdering tate. And everyone else inside. When Robin saw the news the next morning she was terrified Loyd if not for Baker she would have been murdered to Robbins? Fear and shock sent her running back to the man she had tried to reject less within twenty four hours before and although we don't know exactly what took place between them we do know that both of them were transformed as a result. Robin became came Bakers Lover and his first dedicated follower. She was convinced that by preventing her from going to Sharon. Tate's house that night Baker had shown evidence that he possessed miraculous powers and she believed he should share those powers with the world. Robin and Baker were married in May of nineteen seventy and that same month. She convinced him to begin teaching Sunday. Meditation classes at the source. This was not only the beginning of Baker's teaching career it was also so the very beginning of the source family. Bigger students attended his classes on Sunday mornings and either worked or hung out at the restaurant all during the week. Well it may not have been Baker's intention. This gave him a tremendous amount of power over their lives. According to psychologist Robert Jay Lifton colts begin with thought. Reform and the most basic feature of thought reform is control of an individual's environment as the owner of the source restaurant. Baker had literally created the environment in which many of his employees already spent six days a week by adding meditation classes on the Seventh Day. They're only day off off. Baker was virtually ensuring that his philosophies became the dominant psychological force in his workers minds. Initially the Sunday. Meditation classes were repetitions of classes. Baker had taken from.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on 1A

1A

10:45 min | 10 months ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on 1A

"Com restrictions apply this is one A. on Todd's will like in for Joshua Joshua Johnson in Washington fifty years ago at this very moment police in Los Angeles. We're on the hunt for the perpetrators of two horrific murder scenes now now one month before on a night in August in nineteen sixty nine. The followers of an ex con named Charles Manson brutally killed five people in a house on Cielo drive. Dr Including actress Sharon Tate who was eight and a half months pregnant Jay sebring watch for caskey Abigail folder and eighteen year old. Stephen Parent died as well that night the next night across town. The Manson family killed a grocery store chain owner Leno Labianca and his wife Rosemary. The country was upended. d- by these murders the image of flower child hippies morphing into fears of drug addled violent counterculture inosine described by one investigator gator is reminiscent of the weird religious right five persons including actress Sharon Tate were found dead. Mistake was eight months pregnant and was found with a rope around her neck. Jack attached to the body of a man. They were discovered this morning by a maid who ran screaming to neighbors. One officer summed up the murderers when he said in all my years. I I have never seen anything like this before that was a newscast from CBS News nineteen sixty nine in August the aftermath of the Cielo drive murders fifty years later Manson and his cult remain a symbol of brutal American violence and the Ugly Final Act of the nineteen sixties now some of you who were alive during those murder her shared with us what you remember about those times hi my name is Maria right after the Manson murders. I was in the library in my in middle school and I happened to be looking at life magazine and they had photos of the murder scene. I never I got them. They haunted me for years. I wish I would have never seen those pictures. My name is Jim. I live in Chapel Hill North Carolina my wife and I you were born in sixty five sixty. Seven one thing we had in common was that is children. We both were terribly frightened by Charles Manson. He was the boogeyman. Would you man for many of us. In our generation high this cat I was about about the third grade when that happened and I remember dominating the National National News and we had a little black and white TV and it was always the at Phnom War footage and Charles Manson's image really that event left such an indelible little impression the Sharon tate murder. It seems that Charles Manson is haunting. Image is just sort of here into my brain is the epitome of evil. Thank Beauty Maria and to Jim and cat for leaving US those voicemails you know Charles Manson became famous after those horrible murders and many of us and I count myself in this camp became fascinated with Manson murders. It's important to remember in discussions about Charles Manson and in this one that this was an American tragedy not not just a true crime thriller but a real American tragedy but here's the question now. What if the infamous story that we all thought we knew about Charles Manson in the family isn't the whole Truth Investigative Reporter Puerto Author. Tom O'Neil spent twenty years filling in the gaps of a narrative that's held up for decades about the Manson family and those murders including what motivated them it's all in his new book chaos Charles Manson the CIA and the secret history of the sixty S. Tom O'Neil joins me now from. whyy in Philadelphia Tom O'Neil what a pleasure Thanks for having me and thanks for being here Tom. I I gave some details about the Manson murders what America remembers about them some of the sketchy details as we start it off your described. The story of the murders that America came to accept why they happened. What is it that we believe about these murders. While the official narrative of the story that was presented by the prosecutor Events Pelosi trial then later in his bestselling book helter skelter was that Manson had prophesized a race were that was going to end in the complete termination of the white race with the blacks prevailing he called helter skelter based on biblical typical prophecies and of course the Beatles Song of the same name when the race war wasn't happening soon enough he ordered his followers who are completely lately loyal to him by that point to go out and kill strangers that represented society and represented success that he felt had rejected him his whole life and they were supposed to leave science as he he told them to implicate the Black Panthers so the first night burgers that you described with Sharon tate and four others they left pig written on blood at the State House the Second Night at the La Bianca home and let's feel as they left helter skelter written in blood on the refrigerator death to pigs rise other words and blood at the house Manson had promised his followers that he had located a bottomless pit in the desert and Death Valley where he would protect them during this race war and he said there were rivers of honey and twelve trees trees twelve different kinds of fruits after the race war or ended after the blacks had prevailed he would emerge from that whole with his family and subjugate the black race and replenish she earth with his perfect offspring. That's why the murders were committed. According to the official narrative now let's go back to the time once again you mentioned. Vincent Bugliosi the prosecutor who eventually really put Charles Manson and the family in jail here's bouillaud talking to the press in July of nineteen seventy two ignite helter skelter to start the black white revolution Manson Manson envisioned that white people would turn against the black man if they thought the black men at committed these seven murders and ultimately there would be a civil war between blacks and whites on the street. Manson foresaw that the black man would win this war but later on he said the black man because of inexperience would simply not be able to handle the reins of power so we'd have to look around on at those white people who had survived let escape from helter skelter in other words turn over the reigns of power to Charles Manson and his family why the lobby yonkers and the person's imitate Tate House. Why were they selected by Manson as well. You have to realize that if you're going to have a bizarre Motorola motive like this doesn't really make any difference who the victims are Vincent Bugliosi the prosecutor talking to reporters Tom. O'Neil Vincent Bugliosi put the members of the family in prison he just gave the helter skelter shelter narrative the race war narrative how did this narrative become cemented in the American consciousness well for anyone who followed the trial got more coverage virgin any trial and the history of the United States to that point and probably up until the OJ trial they would have learned about it there but the the book helter skelter that came out in nineteen in seventy four to this day is the best selling true crime book of all time and that really cemented it in in the public consciousness also there was a TV movie Nine Hundred Seventy six based on the book that went over two nights and that was at the time the highest rated TV movie of all time so it became kind of a fixture in popular culture. That's still more or less exist to this day. What's the problem with this narrative well as bullying. OC admitted two or three times in interviews Manson never ever believed that motive unfortunately he never admitted this to me when I was interviewing him when I found out he had said this and earlier interviews he wasn't speaking to me anymore. He was threatening pretty extensive lawsuits and civil action against me so I couldn't ask him if Manson didn't order these murders to ignite a race war than what was the reason he sent his followers to kill the people that they killed the motive falls apart with that and then with the evidence that I uncovered like you said over twenty years of getting documents and original reports from different agencies sheriff's Office Los Angeles Police Department federal files barely tweets this. Please please please please stop referring to Charles Manson as a hippie. He was nothing of the kind the only thing that made him remotely similar to hippies was his long scraggly hair. He was a psychopath path cult leader and nothing more I think that points Tom O'Neil to Charles Manson's place in the violent close of the sixties. He's the protests against violence in Vietnam and and the civil rights movement raging protests and riots raging in American streets Charles Manson and his violent Oakland family have become entrenched in the American consciousness ever since nineteen sixty nine. What do you think it says about us that we're still talking about Charles Manson today and that Charles Charles Manson became an obsession for you. I think Vince Baliles did a really good job propagandizing Charles Manson and the family and your callers is correct. Manson didn't consider himself a hippie he called them he and his followers slippy because they slipped in and out of people's homes and stole things and I did things he had a real disdain for hippies he wasn't about peace and love he was a violent racist and I the life magazine cover that another caller mentioned with that picture of the crime scene was followed three months later by this terrifying photo of Manson on the cover of life looking for all intents and purposes like Satan so that kind of became ingrained in the public consciousness and with that the sixties. Xt's and the Hippie movement also became attached to Manson's face Manson's followers everybody just kind of combine that altogether and as he said he Manson was a metaphor for evil hippies were dangerous the sixties and the free love and and drug lifestyle was something that could create something like what happened on August eighth nineteen sixty nine. We're going to talk a lot more about Vincent Bugliosi. He interacts with you at so many points in the story. How much money did he make off of the sale of helter skelter. I never found that out. I don't know I imagine quite a bit though still bestselling I mean you've gotTa be envious best selling true crime book of all time time even if there are major holes in the story which we're GonNa talk about right right right. I'm speaking with Tom O'Neil. He's author of chaos Charles Manson the CIA and the secret history of the sixties and we're GonNa talk about all of those things in the subtitle on Todd's glad to be with you you're listening to.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on PodcastDetroit.com

PodcastDetroit.com

13:19 min | 11 months ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on PodcastDetroit.com

"Reminded me of when i listened to it by the similarities between <hes> got to give it up and blur lines hi like they're. They're like they're clearly there right right yeah yeah. I was going to mention that because robin thicke did have to come out of pocket for him for rail right yeah. It was sent me for records for rails to producer. Em robin thicke was credited for writing even though he said he didn't write it right right right. He say he was high. The creepy song to <hes> is it all we got going to percents onto my two cents. You know everybody knows on the movie guy. <hes> i went to see once upon a time in hollywood with brad pitt <hes> leonardo dicaprio margot robbie <hes> this is tarantino's most restrained film like ever like like you know when you tarintino you'd think pulp fiction inglorious bastards like violence over the top. This is kinda like a like a like a character driven like serene film. I mean it does get to that point but that's like way way onward <hes> basically it. It looks like ill say hollywood. At the end of the sixties. We're like the old in hollywood is being replaced by the new hollywood seventies and also you got like the charles manson stuff in the background so like once you know if you noticed story about sharon tate in the charles charles charles manson murders that kinda brought like the loss of innocence to hollywood so it basically follows a leonardo dicaprio who's like a aging hollywood star brad pitt his stuntman and margot robbie who is sharon tate and <hes>. It's unlike anything he's ever done because it's slow but it's like a good slow-paced movie as it feels like independent film made on a big budget so i'd recommended is is is a different kind of movie eight c._e._o. Yeah yeah that was kind of like that was set up like a play hateful eight. This wanna kinda like is really like he really liked. Captures the time sixties late you can tell like with the production design they really we did put their all into it but <hes> you said you saw hobson shaw. Yes the rock and jason stadium. Was it fun. Yes yes yes it. Does this like extremely violent this explosives. I was in a movie cracking up right explosion come. I'm from nowhere like people we're driving trucks with no windshield windows in buildings. Don't oh how a scratch on on i was laughing like. I know people like she s because i was just laughing just like there's a character on on play by egypt's elbow. He's like a super strand for humans but what's the racks. Excuse very like they're all superhuman off superhuman. That was hoping there'd be a twist whereas like he doesn't have the potion. We've had in the whole time like. Was there a twist like that or now. 'cause i'll be like okay now. It makes sense for the fast and a furious series because these guys are like super strong and never gonna scratch on. I'm like okay. They've always said walking down buildings like the sign of it sounds crazy. It was crazy where it it was a fun movie. It was extremely extremely violent but i mean that's expect from this. This franchise is p._g. Thirteen when you say violence do you mean like like this all the explosions shooting everybody everyone so what's what's more outrageous this john wick. I don't know 'cause every every shot is a kill shot back with the master's can't read so. I don't know like they're both equally ridiculous. I guess okay but i mean i would recommend it. If you're not if you're not expecting too much if you not expecting dial or plot district to the point yeah they do get straight to the point is blowing up stuff from beginning to end literally so there's no real plot is what you're saying. I mean they try. They try. It was a of a super virus and they have to kitted protective but whatever exposure yes so racing cars to straight up superhuman people yes yes. I wanted to switch gears because <hes> we have two people here from sweden death saw one of our most talked about films of the year mid-summer. Oh yeah response. I mean i can sleep that night. I had nightmares no but i really wanted to see it though because it's so funny to me when i saw the trailer i realized the movie is set in the littoral region.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

Crimes of Passion

16:13 min | 1 year ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on Crimes of Passion

"They reached the house at one. Oh Five Oh Cielo drive once they got their techs gave the women the order he had received from Charles Charles Manson they were to break in and kill everyone inside after Melchior moved out thirty five year old director Roman Polanski and his wife Twenty six year old actress Sharon Tate rented the House that night Polanski was not home he was filming filming a movie in Europe but pregnant tate just two weeks away from her due date had stayed behind in Los.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on Sports Radio 610

Sports Radio 610

06:57 min | 1 year ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on Sports Radio 610

"Fumble in the final minutes of a playoff game. Stay classy tweeted that Jeremy Hillary tweets, and he says I've been tormented trolled edition expected for years from this fan base. The moment I say something you guys go insane. I am human being too. So basically. No. But see that's the thing. He was sensitive first of all because he even after winning Super Bowl. I'm gonna go with the Bengals fans. About. The Bengals fans right now is using his feelings because holiday probably how they treated him as some you know, what fa. They treated me bad. Let it be like listen when I played for the Miami Dolphins rookie year played against the white Frene. Right. D- free defray the Tasmanian devil himself gave up three sacks against the way. It was a rough adding. Ooh, now mind you the next week. He went against down at the Arden how many sex did he give up J O gave up the value of the jail game. Exactly, exactly. I remember that goes on Monday night football. Said a lot better. If you ask the Miami Dolphins fan, that'd be like ways. But guess what? If I would've won a Super Bowl after I left Miami. I'm nothing to tweet the dolphins and say look at the dolphins. That's just bought me back because I remember that game. Yeah. Game retired jail. This again, dad. It's been moving. I was like why did not slide to the way? They did helped me Matt either you on spec to help Joe out. Help me help me help me. Help me help you which on the winners. Gangqi? Yes. Can you give me a little guard hill this guy I battle fame gate that game? And I'm a rookie eh game. Right. They're retired. I remember that their game. Right. It was like what's it was a few more years before j o? Oh, two or three. Oh, three. So that was not wasn't even a game. I'm thinking about seems to always give that means. He's always you jail because he gave O six throw DWI free. Here's the crazy part that was free. Yes. That was the second league free. Listen, he was a beast. Another one we had to say a major project manager Gary with Sharma Goblets, a dead, man. Listen, Michael Brown hair Brown wanted to better left tackle in league right now. Every time we had to see why free me he was like man, I got to see this guy. Why freely will be out the league for six or seven weeks and come back the week before he got to play us? And then we had to see him get the wife Rany played how many fourteen fifteen years he plays. He was on the team last year. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you who used to for the two games, and I feel bad for these kids. The one game you play D free. Is big Spence expenses giving de free to straight business. Charles Charles Manson. Oh, yeah. From here. Yeah. Experience you'll be like a dancing bear. I heard he was the truth. He just got hurt. But he win that game. In in that game. I never get it, man. He d free jazz. Give them a spin. He says inside clampdowns on my he got that clap their old school. We'll talk. Yeah. He eight Reggie like where you going where where are you going there? We're going to be going to get together and road running back those need we got that layoffs stretch, man. I feel I'm like, dude. No rookie. And we started with murdering people out there, man. Yeah. I heard Charles Manson was the truth with questions about troop draft class in history of of the the Houston, Texas. People forget about Charleston is good. Good. I digress. Could we get off on the go ahead on more fight club? So in the back to Jeremy hill since the tween people you won the Super Bowl you have a ring coming there. You have a trophy be happy with that to keeping moving, man. Stop looking back. Don't oh, you nothing. Man. You're a patriot. Now enjoyed it. Not a lot is is literally powder thousand people just walk into earth. This ever got to believe Subaru. You're one of you didn't have to play to get it. You have to play. I'll yet. Just. Just be quiet. He's be team. He's owned the team now because he will get a ring now. Josh Gordon going to get a range. Team USA, Josh Gordon's tweet. Oh. Tom brady. No. I didn't see it. You would he say when he saying Brady ring Brady a picture of them to embrace it. Yeah. I got that ring for just like, I told you I would. He's only on a team for two weeks. It doesn't matter goes on for like seven. We. Any? Team. Yard. Yes. Like don't. Don't get twisted. Don't let them come back. Josh, gordon. Josh Gorman at home, he does on vacation. I hope he comes back home sober for two and a half years. It comes back and destroys people. Well, that's why didn't get him. You gotta you're gonna come back for it ready to go. I I really got one big fans. I I hope I can't I hope Josh Gordon get it together. And I just said I hope if it's just we. I think we need to make exemptions for some guys who really got problems man like that keeps them call man. You know, the crazy part about it is I would say no more than five years from now is going to be legal marijuana. Here's a guy. So he's going through all these treatments and things and he's having to be away from the programs and all that money losing money. Losing opportunities stuff. It's gonna be legalized in probably five years in the league is going to be legalized around the country. I already isn't a lot of places, but it's gonna be where he plays. Yeah. It's legal in Massachusetts. My question is do all those guys who've mistime time him Ricky Williams Ray, sue the league later on for lost money. I mean, you could sue people for having us as a parent. You can still people for anything. Now. How much leverage do they have? Can they legitimately win a case? I would say, no, yeah. I'd say awesome. Like, that's not gonna work. The only person who I think has a lawsuit. They can win. It's Tony Romo. I think he can sue the gal. Where the here a big. They said he couldn't do it. All of a sudden. Yeah. Are doing stuff in Vegas. Yeah. It was a cherry fantasy football. And he goes, I got the Palazzo. Yeah. Well, Agasi stadium, and then they cancelled it. And then now the NFL's me signing deals with casinos, and there's only like three years ago. Yeah. And that's because they couldn't get money out of exactly. So coming up next on the Ojos, not time leave yet on the next fight club. We.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show

The Paul Finebaum Show

01:48 min | 2 years ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on The Paul Finebaum Show

"Fifty nine was not your junior year right no it wasn't impose that's when the book written ball okay go retha damn book and you can see well written in nineteen fifty nine i get so mad even thinking about that who which he is the may i didn't say a killer but he's a bad person charles charles manson again for for for what ball i know characters you as a character he's a rotten character about squirrel with a model wife and he's a bird perv he's a liar he he without without having committed a crime i don't any crime he's committed except coming on here about me i still say he's banner person at what he is in my opinion bana person as that guy that we talked about well jim for the record charles manson that we slow they've rotten as pale the all i wanna do is clarify he was wrong again i just said written the book of written in nineteen fiftynine you notice how twisted that laugh you know you know what he's doing you've done it to you imply that i was at junior in nineteen fifty nine which would make me what probably eighty which is a lot of work brother charles manson died so let me make sure i get the the i well i'm not making a couple of months ago i pay making a point was defending you by the way what you didn't offend me you never defend me you love that guy to come here and just just lack i'm just like the show at him jim i'm the one who said it was probably a fake account.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030

WBZ NewsRadio 1030

01:44 min | 2 years ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030

"The avalanche ballroom and the fillmore auditorium where we would hear bands like cream and big brother and the holding company which was janice joplin band and jimi hendrix and the grateful dead the jefferson airplane it was really a lot of rock and roll going on santana also he would appear for free on the weekends at people's park in berkeley and we were dressing outrageous cost us i sewed my own costumes and i was deaf i definitely embrace the entire hippie lifestyle so i was wearing outrageous clothing and i was basically screwing everything inside meaning then now that scene started to deteriorate in in pretty short order right in a couple of three years well yeah there was the summer of love that in the summer of love is when i learned transcendental meditation but i also attended almonte and altamonte was nineteen sixty nine that's when the rolling stones appeared ness when there was a mob and meredith was his name guy got killed at at altima so that was kind of the end of that was pretty much really that killed the hippie movement because of that seeing that ultimate it was very scary and i was right there near the st charles charles manson was hanging around there then sure was there was the manson family did you ever see did you ever see him or them.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on Alice @97.3

Alice @97.3

02:06 min | 2 years ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on Alice @97.3

"Series and his longtime stunt double double cliff booth who's played by brad pitt they're struggling to make it in hollywood they don't recognize any more and in the film they're apparently there the next door neighbors of where this whole thing went down so new clinton's hard to imagine but he is and by that he i mean clinton he is so good i love his movies i love pulp fiction pulp fiction could be my favorite movie of all time you know as much as i love pulp fiction of all his movies my favorite is my favorites i should say are the kill bill movies i love those put them in my top ten at least two absolutely great yesterday hey foyer sure did and loved it oh yeah when when he throws up into her mouth hideous the whole he had to bring that people are trying to eat breakfast human speaking of manson and we sort of were there the manson murders charles charles manson's grandson was awarded his body i guess his body just been on isis he died i think in november and there's been a big fight over it because apparently i know what are you just hand it to them if you get his body and your declared like the the air then you're also sort of the air of the estate which is not that he had all kinds of money but if there's things about him that are going to happen if you like for instance maybe they sell part of his story to a movie that's being made on the rights to all things manson which i don't know why you'd want those but why would you want to benefit from the stuff he did why not just have him put in a potter's field somewhere without a headstone and be done with it.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on WTMJ 620

WTMJ 620

01:55 min | 2 years ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on WTMJ 620

"Thirty five on wtmj this is steve school feeding they tuesday it's nice now let's get cooler later getting back to that with winter weather we had a nice uh was break yesterday was if if you're out if you're somebody hadn't got their christmas decorations up yet yesterday was the day to do it provided you could stand your ladder because it was a little breezy in some places we have a very very busy show today 9 o'clock hour bullying we talked about last week quentin espinoza killed himself city of glendale well now the school district of glendale is considering changing some of their bullying policy and also the city of racine is considering doing the same thing all these stories about blowing this country we've seen it play out in social media certainly that was the case in the case of the story michelle what can communities do really want to hear what have to say about this because bowling's been around forever was around when i was a kid which is a long time ago that hasn't changed but the laments of bullying the way in the manner the kids do it has certainly changed and as i said before used to be you could walk away from her school and walk away from the bully now that bully follows you home through social media instagram twitter facebook that in the nine o'clock hour nine thirty five charles charles manson died yesterday he's eighty three years old of course the sharon tate love jaca murders in the in the late 1960s do we romanticise mass murderers in this country i thought about this in the context of that story coming back because what did i shall ask night and all the networks was coverage of charles manson here we are decades decades later he's back in a news do we romanticise mass murder to the point where it encourages in some ways people to say i want to be bigger and better than that story by and people are thinking and really really dangerous terms do they play into that story in does does frankly.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on KOMO

KOMO

01:56 min | 3 years ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on KOMO

"Way to talk to him no he's not going to he's on the follow up on any promise there's a way to get us out of this and we have to fight it's like dealing with charles charles manson you know yet i mean he's he's he's not irrational human being war is look we'll we'll us all absolutely nothing will this is not a good deal we go to war with him at all we gotta find a way to boost out of fine we are going to look if you're gonna keep fuck well the military people i talk to agree with you that this is not the way to do it and that war would be a real real mess so well thank you for your call it's first light and we are going to tom in naylor the other missouri good morning tom good morning uh i hope we don't go to war uh we don't need there but trump had backbone and he does it catered to the media hey fair he says what he thinks obama was the worst i wouldn't do anything and that's for ron that guy at crazy guy to call the end but anyway i hope we don't go to war the north korean guy he's not i agree with you on natty he's a total knack but he did better get the message yeah i hope he gets the message i hope he gets the message and you know if it has to be war it's just that i wouldn't make more my first move and so far we haven't nikki haley did a great job at the un security council rex tillerson is on the case and so uh if there's a way to avoid this i sure hope we find it because they hi this is too all right i uh i i'd like to have some retirement money to go to some of these was right thanks for calling its first light at its jason in sycamore illinois oh boy oils let alone a little orlando's bullshit alone.

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"charles charles manson" Discussed on KELO

KELO

03:02 min | 3 years ago

"charles charles manson" Discussed on KELO

"Got shot you got pierreanatole time no i'm on top i've got to america on the option of america on why not russia and china it was quite not key west if general america i'm so about short korea jeff crime why are you came from endorsed treat to peace nick cave chart kid rock yup trump cupcake to hit man but guy somebody tokyu work on trump you got me moeller would be the military the did it but to get your point thank you john its first light and we have is this june home yeah we have jerome now mci something's going wrong you're there we go direct the phones are almost fixed may try this jerome in charleston south carolina good morning however i tomorrow there i got a real problem with our guy would part to do permanent what you can do to country to war i'm really really really work for the first time in a long time but balked is trump guy did not go to war with north korea we can't do it from loselose two jewish we can't dude you'd have to find some chronic diplomatic answer to lewis because to be patera free we do the gobi we worst kuwaiti or or iraq we came out due to look with syria looks like we can do we have a part of the week we'll jerami if if there is a war uh you can probably kiss a huge chunk of your 401 k a retirement savings goodbye but on the other hand how else do you deal with north korea there is no way to talk to him he's not going to he's on the follow up on any promise do there's a way to get out and we have to fight it's like dealing with charles charles manson you know you i mean he's he's he's not irrational human being war book or will they saw absolutely nothing to do not a good deal we go to war would do at all we gotta find award admitted got a cute you look really gone part well the military people i talk to agree with you that this is not the way to do it and that war would be a real real mess so i thank you for your call it's first lied and we are going to tom in naylor and they masaari good morning tom good morning i hope we don't go to war we we don't need their but added backbone.

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