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130 - Three Approaches for Doubt and Mistrust

Secular Buddhism

37:16 min | 9 months ago

130 - Three Approaches for Doubt and Mistrust

"Hello and welcome to another episode of the secular Buddhism podcast. This is episode number one hundred and thirty. I am your host Noah Rochetta and today. I'm going to talk about using doubt and mistrust and how essential these things are on the Buddhist path as always keep in mind. You don't need to use what you learn from Buddhism to Buddhist. You can use what you learn to be a better whatever you already are quick announcement. I'm excited to announce that I will now have to additional perks for podcasts supporters on the Patriot community. Who are looking for more. Live interactions on a weekly basis as the community continues to grow. I want to offer value to podcast supporters. Beyond what you get from just listening to the podcast so I have two options that I'm going to start doing every week. Now the first one is using a platform called crowd cast. I want to offer live. Qna and Ama which is asked me anything sessions. 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Which is essentially the cost of a cheap cup of coffee. Every month is three dollars a month to have the community access in. That would give you both of those options for the live settings. So that sounds interesting to you. You can learn more about that by visiting secular Buddhism Dot Com and clicking the link on the top of the page that says Patriots on. So that's all I have about that in terms of the announcement and now this jump right into the discussion around the Zenko on that was shared in the last podcast episode. So this Cohen says one day. Chaozhou fell in the snow and called out. Help me help me help me up. Held ME UP. A monk came and lay down beside him. Chow Chu got up and went away. And that's it. That's the Cohen. And I WANNA share first of all some of the thoughts that come from the Patriot community. Because as you know I've mentioned we we have discussions around the podcast in around the Cohen. And I WANNA share some of these thoughts so ellen says quote this is what the Co on makes me think of when experiencing difficulty emotions like grief or depression and your loved ones. Want to help. But there's no way to pull you out of those feelings or make them go away so often. The best way to help is just to be with you. While you're feeling them the feelings can run their course with someone you love by your side until you have the strength to get up on your own close quote and I agree with Allen's assessment here I think oftentimes we try to help someone and our way of helping isn't helpful and other times. You know all we really need to do is be with someone and just by being with them like in this case the monk lays down beside him and that's all it that's all he needed. Chaozhou got up and went away is what it says. Okay Matt says quote I think it is an example of reactivity chow falls and his initial reaction is to panic. He fears that he cannot free himself from the situation. The monk comes in lies beside him to show him that. The situation is not a crisis he too is lying in the snow and did so voluntarily in doing so one can see that there is no emergency lows quote. This is an interesting take on it. I hadn't thought about it from that perspective but I think again with these. Cohen's you know this is a an invitation for you to extract meaning or whatever you're going to get out of it for you and it's Kinda cool. That Matt stalled this. This is kind of a different angle to it that I think is accurate. And a lot of instances in life where we are in a situation and we're thinking how Megan to do this but it's helpful to know that somebody else has been in this situation and they were able to find a way to to cope with it or deal with it then I can too and I know I felt that before and honestly I think a lot of us are feeling this. Now with everything that we're going through with the lockdowns in the With with the covert nineteen. I was telling my wife this the other day how much more difficult it would be to face these uncertainties in terms of jobs and the potential financial repercussions. If if I knew this was just happening to me but somehow by knowing that the whole world is trying to figure out what to do about work in about Income and things like that somehow makes it so much less stressful. Because I know it's not just me. We're all trying to figure it out and that's kind of what Matt is talking about here so I I like that thought. I think there's something there to it. Suzanne says quote this Cohen. Really resonated with me and I was reminded of the key. Idea of Montessori. Education helped me to do it on my on. Chaozhou asks for someone to help him help them up. Which would be quite a passive way of reacting to the present situation like a child asking their parents to do something for them. Instead the monk lies down and shows Chow Chu the passivity of his response. Once having realized this Chaozhou is able to act for himself it up under his own steam and walk away and then she says it it also reminds me of the raft analogy the monk and his compassion are the raft which enables Chow Chu to get up and leave behind the monk. Which is the wrapped? Close quote. It's always fascinating to hear other people's perspectives on these stories. Because we're all in different places in life we've had different experiences in life and we see things from a unique vantage point. And that's what I thought of when I was reading Suzanne's take on this. Like what a cool way to see that again from a perspective that hadn't crossed my mind and the correlations that she's drawing that hadn't crossed my mind and I liked them They make a lot of sense to me and then I wanNA finish with one more with Nancy's thoughts so nancy says quote. This Cohen makes me think about when I have a problem or situation that is troubling me and I turned to a friend or a loved one for help. The best help I have received is when that person simply sits with me and listens close quote and that's getting back to kind of the way Ellen talked about it and what I kind of took from it. Which is that sometimes. The best help is the help. That's just being with someone and not actually trying to help that certainly a lesson. I took away from it and I think sometimes we see this in our own lives that the best way to help someone to just sit and be with them and to not try to help in fact. Oftentimes the trying to help makes the problem worse. I know I've experienced that Both as the receiving on the receiving end of that but also on the other end where. I'm the one who's trying to help and I'm catching myself that my health is not helping him. I don't know if you've experienced that would assume some of you have. You can kind of correlate this also with the concept of teaching people to fish instead of giving fish I've correlated this a little bit with the thought of with my kids like teaching them how to think rather than what to think so. Yeah my mind has gone to a lot of different places with this co on. But at the end of the day I like visualizing Chow Chu Falling in the snow. And calling help me up helped me up. And then among laying there next to him and Chacha just gets up and walks away These little stories can always be unpacked to gain a lot of perspectives and thoughts and teachings and again. There's never a right answer. The point wasn't the answer. The point was what did it make you think of in the process of thinking maybe learned something about yourself. I think that's what's cool about these. Cohen's moving over to the topic that I wanted to discuss in today's podcast episode the concept of the three stages of doubt. So I let me set you up with what prompted this like me. Many of you are probably seeing all kinds of crazy stuff on facebook. These days right stories about this and conspiracies about that and there's a part of us that cycle which views are right. How could we possibly know? How can I take what I'm experiencing right now into my own personal practice and the amount of healthy skepticism and doubt that has gone into my analysis of the various news sources in crazy stories and videos that I've watched is what inspired this topic? I thought you know in Buddhism the concept of mistrust. The concept of doubt is very important. You know there's the expression in Zen Buddhism this has big doubt big enlightenment. Small Doubt Small Enlightenment. No doubt no enlightenment and I really liked that because without questioning our views. We can't possibly see new things. We cannot experience a new way of seen things and when I used to go around and teach the workshops the introduction to Buddhism and the introductions of mindfulness workshops there is analogy that I used often about the tinted glasses. And how we're going through life wearing these tinted glasses and if you've ever worn glasses that have a tent like red or green or blue. It affects everything that you look at. Everything is tinted by the color of the glasses that you're wearing and if I were to be born with those glasses I've never taken them off and I've only ever seen life through the the tint of the lenses that I'm looking through I wouldn't know to even mistrust that what I've seen is tinted. I would think what I'm seeing is reality. This is how things are. Everything's slightly green and I may never know that there's a tent there if I'm not willing to at least entertain. I the idea that maybe the way I see is not correct. So that's where this concept of of mistrust and doubt comes in. I think one way to almost invoke. This sense of mistrust is to just consider the views of whatever you're opposing political views are right if you're a. Democrat look at the news. That's coming from the Republicans if you're a Republican look at the news. That's coming from Democrats and you're going to have almost a natural sense of mistrust arises just naturally right if it's and you don't have to be American with Republicans and Democrats happening all over the world whatever. Your views are looking at the opposing parties views and notice. What arises in you. What you should be experiencing most likely as an instant sense of mistrust if so and so said it. I don't know about that if my team said. Okay I trust that. I'm not even GONNA question it and this is this is where we have the opportunity to take some of that same mistrust in that same skepticism. That is so easily flung to the other side and apply it to your own views. That's essentially what we're practicing Buddhism. I just want to emphasize here. This isn't meant to leave us. Crippled with indecisiveness isn't meant to paralyze us with fear. And say all now. I don't know what's true. This is meant to liberate us from the attachment to our views. We talked about this often. Buddhism right that the the good concepts or bad concepts good ideas or bad is good beliefs or bad beliefs. They're like chains that bind us. And that's not necessarily a problem. We're all bound by our ideas. What it means though is when I'm attached to a view I'm not completely open to the possibilities of changing that view and if I can learn to develop what we call the beginner's mind Buddhism it's like the mind of a child it's always curious it's always learning and it's always adapting to whatever's being thrown at it that is the mind that whereafter in our practice and if you think about it we are always doubting right. What is it that we're doubting? Will we doubt whatever contradicts what we already think? We know we do it. Everybody does it. That's why it's so easy to question what somebody is saying if I don't agree with them and and that's also why it's so easy to to overlook what might be poor quality news if it's coming from my team because there's this already this assumption with as my team saying that. I don't even need a question. It it's good and one Buddhist way of doubting is to be a no word that is mistrusting of both directions. So I wanNA talk about this a little bit too neat concept that the three stages of doubt this I heard this idea in the book called Mind in Tibetan Buddhism and the author's name is Lottie Rainbow and I'm GONNA post a link to this in the show notes. Were you can if you want to look up that book? It's on Amazon. But there he talks about this concept of the three stages of doubt and the idea is that you can take a statement of fact like as an example. The Universe is infinite. That's the statement and then you have the three stages stage one or three levels. I'm not sure if stages is the right word but you've got these three ways to approach doubt one is where you tend towards the fact. The other is where you tend towards the distortion and then the third one is where you tend equally towards both so. Here's the example if we were to say the universe is infinite. If I'M GONNA lean towards that fact I might be thinking you know. The Universe is probably infinite right. I'm leaning towards the fact if I'm leaning towards the distortion which is essentially. I'm leaning towards the other side of the argument I might be thinking the universes probably not infinite and then there's this middle ground right. 'cause WE'RE TALKING. Buddhism there's always the middle ground where you tend towards both equally. Were here you might not be able to make up your mind and you're just going to be left with wondering whether the universe is infinite or finite is finite or infinite and that's the third stage. Now why is this helpful? Hockett this how could this be practical in day to day life? Well in Buddhism like I mentioned before doubt is beneficial because it is the first step in weakening the possibility of having a wrong view now that to me is fascinating. I want to repeat that. Because doubt in Buddhism is beneficial because it is the first step in weakening wrong view. And as you know in the full path right view or skillful view is the view that we're after the. How do we know which view is skillful in? Which one is not skillful? We we don't so we have to operate under the assumption that what we think may not be true it may not be the most skilful way of you in something will. How could we possibly know if we have the wrong view if we're willing to doubt our view so that's the first thing that I want to mention here? In Buddhism you're encouraged to carry a healthy amount of skepticism and doubt towards your own views. And this is where the story of the monk emptying the teacup right like if by emptying the tea cup you can fill it up with whatever new knowledge. Whatever new view you're going to have but you cannot physically do that. You cannot fill a teacup. That's already full. It cannot be done and it's the same with our views. We cannot have a new view. If we're not I willing to accept that we might have an incorrect view or at least question the view that we have so in that sense we must have an open mind willing to accept that we may have an incorrect view in order to start the process of arriving at the correct view. Whatever the correct you may be so if I were to tell. Hey you're seeing things through tinted glasses and that's affecting what you see the green tent that you happen to theon. Everything is an accurate depiction of the world it's caused by the Green Tint of your glasses will at that point. You're left with the option of believing me insane. Maybe maybe the way I view things is off or you could think I'm absolutely not some crazy and that's it you don't want to hear anything else from me. You could be angry at me because you're upset that I'm assuming that you don't see things correctly and that's just one example right but that's what we do. We all go around thinking that the way that we view things now. That is the right way but the way you view things now. That's not the right way and we think that if I can shame you enough about your view than maybe you'll adopt my view and that absolutely does not work. Anyone who's been on facebook knows that's just not how it works so rather than focusing all of our energy on trying to correct everyone else's way of viewing things what we're doing in this practice is we're just trying to understand. How how do I see things? And the example I gave. That's how oversimplified example because first of all it's not very easy to identify any tent in your way of viewing that you have. I mean it's hard enough to identify the tent that I may have in in my own views. So much less am I gonNA be able to confidently point out. What kind of Tint your Distorting in the way that you view I don't know I'm just trying to figure out my own life here so I think it starts with the recognition of the mere possibility that my view might be wrong. That's where I start. I WANNA make a big change in the world. I've gotTA start with at least recognizing the maybe the way that I'm doing. It is not the most skilful way and again. There's a strong emphasis in Buddhism to avoid believing in Buddhist teachings instead we're encouraged to evaluate them to understand these teachings and ultimately the test them against our own experience. So how do we avoid getting stuck in doubt and getting paralyzed with fear? I think to me. Uncertainty is the important thing here because when we are no longer attached to the need to be right or to have a sense of certainty in our view then we can move more comfortably each view that we hold and to me. This is the space of such nece. What we call such nece and Buddhism at this is the beginner's mind. This is the unknowing mind. There are a lot of ways that this is talked about in some Buddhist literature. Even Equates Enlightenment itself with this idea of such nece which to me is the tending towards both equally. Were I may not be able to make up my mind whether this is this or that that now you have to pause for a minute and just recognize that. This is probably running. Contrary to almost anything you've ever been taught in terms of our Western way of thinking in our society. We do not like to not know things. In fact we're so uncomfortable with the uncertainty of something that we would rather believe that even if we're wrong but have the certainty that no. It's this because the answer I don't know is not acceptable in our society. We do not like to not no. I think it'll be really helpful. If we think about this in terms of skillful versus unskillful and there are some things that we will simply never know because they're just unknowable. And I'm not referring to the big existential questions like is the universe. Finite or infinite. I'm referring to smaller things like the concern. I have well my kids turn out to be the way that I hope that they will or will my spouse always love me or will. I remain satisfied in the current job by men. You know those. Those are equally troubling questions that we want to feel a sense of certainty. Were not okay with the answer. I don't know we want to know so we'll We'll stick with either. Yes or no. But at least it's certain and with such nece we both perceptions to coexist one possibility on one end of the spectrum and the other possibility on the other end of the spectrum and we find comfort in the uncertainty. Now that is a really fascinating thing to be able to do like the. But there's a lot of skillfulness in here and I wanNA give an example of this In terms of skillful and an unskillful because again. I'm not saying we need to be indecisive or wishy-washy about our views. I think we can absolutely hold onto a view wild practicing non attachment. I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about here. Let's just say The example of a of a spouse. If I have a spouse and someone were to tell me hey I think you're I think if I were to think my spouses cheating on me and I believe that they are but but really they're not think of how unskillful that belief is in my relationship now? The only thing that gives it credibility is the importance that I have in my need to be right and unfortunately in this case I believe that mice the that they are. What is that GonNa do to my relationship if knowing you know in real life? They're not but I think that they are. That would be very unskillful for me to continue to operate under the assumption that they are simply because I believe it. Now let's flip the the other side of this. Let's say your spouse really is in reality. They are but you believe that they're not. It's the same dilemma here. How unskillful is it to continue operating under that set of circumstances where the only thing making me continue to behave? The way that I am is I cannot let go of my belief and my belief says that they're not and there may be all these clear red flags essay Yeah they probably are but I can't see them because I'm blinded by my belief so you can see the dilemma here right I. It's not about whether they are or they aren't it's about am. I willing to entertain the opposite of what I believe. Am I willing to at least take my belief in say? Maybe I'm wrong. And then at that moment I'm a little bit more free to look at other Potential evidence or red flags that would be contrary to the belief that already formulated. So that's one example. Another one that I think of often is in terms of Religion Right. I've I've talked about this with my wife where I've said you know the problem with our beliefs. Is that once? We formulate a belief you can be presented with evidence that runs contrary to it and you will not see it. You cannot see it and the example that I've I've talked about if I was a a devout Christian and I believed that Jesus is is coming right the second coming. What would I do if he appeared with one of my competitors? That's not the right word. Not Competitors but let's just say. I am a devout Catholic and Jesus shows up with the head of the Jehovah's Witnesses. No would I just instantly be like? Oh Yeah I guess they were right or would I be like Nah? There's a conspiracy here. That's not the real Jesus other just trying to trick us. I think that's what most of us would do right and put yourself in this position. Whatever your view is what if the thing you're expecting didn't happen that way. Would you find reasons to you? Know to to explore at that point okay. We'll let me look into this or are you going to be like no way no way. That's not what's really happening. I think most of us would do exactly that we would say nope. That's not what's happening. This is a conspiracy if You know what would the average Christian think if they look up into the heavens and it's not Jesus is coming it's Krishna. Do you really think that most Christians would just be like. Oh Okay Yep I guess it was the Hindus. They were the right ones. Let's all switch. No way they'd say that's the devil the devils impersonating and trying to fool us and Blah Blah Blah right or if it was Jesus what are the Hindus GonNa think that. And that's just the fun mental experiment because that's Or what is the Atheist GonNa Think? There's Jesus in the sky. Do you think the atheists back. Oh I was wrong. Okay back to Christianity or are they most likely to back okay. Who's pulling the strings? Here this is a elaborate prank. Because they've already decided there is no Jesus and that's what I'm trying to get that with this Again I use that as an example because I think a lot of us can kind of understand how strong Beliefs. How how strong beliefs are very difficult to look past? And that's why I brought up that as the example you could be a believer and there's nothing that could be presented to you. That's going to make you not believe and vice versa. You could be a non believer. What what are you going to present to the non believer? That's GonNa make them back. Okay now I believe and granted. I'm recognizing that people shift from one view to another believers become non believers and non-believers become believers and believers become believers of other beliefs. That happens all the time but I don't think it happens willfully like hey I just don't WanNa believe this anymore and I know that because I've gone through that myself. I've transitioned from one belief system to non belief and it was not intentional like hey I'm just not going to believe one day. It doesn't work that way. It was a series of events that makes you think a certain way that makes you question the way that you think before you know. You're like I don't know what I think I stopped believing and I think it's odd to me when people will question that and think now you know you just chose to not believe and I'm like I couldn't do that in the same way that you know you go up to Christian and say okay. We'll if it really is that simple in its just about choosing. Go ahead and become Muslim now why don't you go ahead? And just switch everything over and believe in Allah. They can't I mean they can't. You can fake it but you can't. It's not natural right and yet Christians convert to Islam is Members of Islam will convert to Christianity. It can happen but it's not happening because someone just decided I want this to happen. It happens because you go look in. So this is this is where that concept of doubt comes in if you're not willing to doubt your own views or if you can't doubt your own views than you can't see anything other than what you're seeing and this is where. I think this is the wonderful thing about doubt. Is that it it can propel us in the direction of a more skillful view and I don't think we have to think of this in terms of of true false right wrong. You know I think a again. I always emphasizes. I liked the idea of skillful versus unskillful and when it comes to big things like beliefs. I like what French writer Andre Once wrote. He said believed those who are seeking truth. Doubt those who find it and I really liked that. I KINDA WANNA wrap up my thoughts on this topic with that quote in mind and I. I want to invite. Invite you to stay open. Stay curious to stay non attached to the certainty that your views are right and I'm not talking religious views. I'm talking all your views. Your political views whether or not this corona virus thing is a hoax whether or not I'm talking about any view. Any single view that you have. Maybe just. Maybe things aren't what we think they are. Just maybe the view that you have isn't the most accurate or the most skillful and maybe with these three stages of doubt you can start tending towards both extremes both ends equally to where you cannot make up your mind and you wonder whether or not it is or it. Isn't I think that's a very skillful view to hold and again I I? I'm not saying this because they want everyone to be out there thinking. Well I don't have any opinion about that. I'm not saying that I have strong opinions about things. I have strong political views on a certain things this way or that way but I'm not attached to it meaning. I understand why I hold this view because I can't help having been raised where I was raised having adopted. The societal. The is that I have and all these things that make me have an opinion but that does not mean my opinion is right so I'm always willing to entertain and to explore the view from the other side. I don't care what belief it is that I have. I'm willing to entertain the view of the other side and often I will and I'll be like after hearing the argument. Yup nope I'm still leaning on this side but even then it's not with a death grip that's like well. I mean keep presenting keep on presenting information. Maybe at some point something will click. Okay yeah that does make sense. But until then this is what makes sense. And that's how I view All of my beliefs all of my views. I hold them very lightly. And that's something. I love about Buddhism. I feel like it gives me the permission to hold my views lightly even and especially my views That I get through Buddhism because I'm not asked to believe any of this stuff. These are concepts that I get to work with and test and see how I feel about them and see if they work for me and they do. That's why I'm teaching and sharing all these concepts and ideas because it has been a very liberating way of engaging with reality a reality that cannot completely understand and that I cannot completely discern if one thing is correct or not but I get I get to try to understand it a little bit more and more every day. That's what I love about. Science rated take the process of continually uncovering learning new things. But it never has to be set in stone. All right so I kinda got a little off topic there. But that's what I wanted to share with you. This concept of the three stages of doubt and how beneficial it might be if we were all willing to at least empty or cup a little bit and especially if our if our intent is to fill our cup with more knowledge will then you gotTa dump out. What's in there right? You're not you're not gonNA ever have any change of use if you're not even willing to entertain the possibility of maybe. My view isn't the most accurate or isn't the most correct all right. That's all I have for this podcast episode as always. Thank you for listening if you want to support the work. I'm doing the podcast considered becoming a patron and joining our online community. Where we discussed the cohens and these podcast episodes and as I mentioned before the Live Interactions. That are not taking place there every week. And if you WANNA learn more about that you can visit secular Buddhism dot Com. If you enjoyed the podcast episode please share it with others. Writer review give it a rating and I tunes and that's all I have for now. I look forward to recording another podcast. Podcast episode soon. But before I go here is Zenko on to work with between now and the next podcast episode. This is classic. 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129 - The HALT Method

Secular Buddhism

23:44 min | 9 months ago

129 - The HALT Method

"Hello and welcome to another episode of the secular Buddhism podcast episode number. One Hundred Twenty Nine. I am your host Noah Rochetta and today I'm going to talk about the halt method. Keep in mind. You don't need to use what you learn from Buddhism Buddhist. You can use what he learned to be a better. Whatever you already are before jumping into the CO on and the topic. I have for this podcast episode. I wanted to clarify something based on an email I received. I want to say thank you to Garrett for emailing me Asking for a better clarification around this idea of becoming a better whatever we already are and specifically there was This communication is it a contradiction with what we're practicing Buddhism when we talk about wanting to be better whatever we already are as a form of craving. Because we're also saying that the moment we want to be we want life to be other than how it is Suffering arises so. How do those two ideas work together? Because wanting to be other than how I am Is is already the problem that that creates suffering. So how does this idea of becoming better whatever we already are so I wanted to clarify this just a little bit one for me when I use this quote the concept of being a better whatever I- rem in you have to remember in the Buddhist concept or way of thinking were? Were already eliminating the duality of of good and bad right and wrong. So I think it's more appropriate to say to become a more skillful whatever you already are rather than a better because when when we say better it does make you think good better best right or better in terms of of good and bad so yeah. I don't know I might change the quota but the idea that the quote conveys is that we can become more skillful at whatever it is. We already are into me. That gets to the heart of what all these practices really do for me as individual. I'm not trying to be other than how I am in other words this kind of a of a dad and I want to be that kind of a dad. I don't do it that way. I view it as M. I. Being as skillful as I can be as a person as a dad as a husband as a son and all the different roles that I play in my life the quote makes a lot of sense to me in my mind with that context of of skillful in relationship to better. I wanted to be more skilled at whatever it is. I already am rather than thinking of in terms of better implying that I'm not adequate where I am now. Because that's not. That's not the idea. It's not to say you are not very good with whatever you already are but you can be better. That's not the idea. The idea is you're fine with whatever you already are. But could you be more skillful being whatever you already are and that to me makes a lot of sense so hopefully that makes sense to you. but again thank you. Garrett for bringing that up because that is an important distinction to make to understand the spirit of the quote if we WANNA call it that so thank you. Now jumping into the topic for the PODCAST. So in the last podcast I shared the Cohen. Says what is your original face before you were born and I wanNA share some of the thoughts that come from the discussion if you'll recall with the Patriot community We have discussions around the Cohen and discussions around the topic of the podcast. So it's it's a neat way to share the podcast episode and then to be able to get the insight and and thoughts and feedback of other podcast listeners. and their thought about the Cohen. So in this case I wanNA share some of those thoughts with you Bob Says and I really liked his answer. He says my thought is that any answer might give would earn me a wack with a big stick from question. Her isn't that what always happens. When a seeker attempts to unravel these conundrums logic is my ladder to climb over the puzzle fence but once I climb the ladder. Defense more I I enjoy that thought from Bob because I do think a lot of these. Cohen's you know there. There is the answer that the the teacher who asked the question ends up hitting you with a stick that's common in in Zen Stories in Cohen's Christopher says quote. This question makes me think about mannerisms manners. They have which I have begun to realize I acquired from my parents then I see my grandparents and they to have the same mannerisms it makes me wonder how far back our habits go. Who was the first one to sit a certain way smile a certain Grin to laugh awkward chuckle? The answer to who the first the original is unknowable. But we are connected to that person long dead and these habits passed on through generations so our original face was influenced by the thousands before. Us close quote. I really really liked this thought shared by Christopher because to me the invitation of this co honest to see through that lens of interdependence and the interdependent nature of my face as he mentions is Absolutely interconnected with the face of my mom and my dad and my grandma and my GRANDPA and back generation after generation after generation. And it is fun to imagine you know. These mannerisms are ways about us these quirks or if you have a certain interest it wouldn't it be cool to go back and and be able to see that five generations back. There was a person there who AH GRANDMA GRANDPA. Who if you could see them and hear them? You'd be like wow that's just like me. I think it'd be really cool. It's bound to happen somewhere down the line right. Because that's how genetics work. That's a lot of personality traits. Maybe our way of thinking who knows. But it's just it's a fun process and it reminds me of a quote that I really enjoyed Hans says where he says. If you look deeply into the palm of your hand you will see your parents and all the generations of your ancestors. All of them are alive in this moment. And that's always been a really fun bought process for me to look into my hands and see the generations of ancestors before me that. I have no idea about their stories and yet here. I am the culmination of all their stories is taking place right now in this present moment. So that's a fun thought. John says quote. This question reminds me of how we can't actually see how we appear to others. Yeah yeah I know about miers but you see yourself in a certain way others see you in a different way etc when you try to answer this question. You're just creating a new version that doesn't last but a moment anyway. I would imagine the answer would be a blank stare rather than a definitive response. Does it really matter? You should live in the moment. You're not in the past close quote and I like John Spots on this. You know it's fascinating to think that in a very real way we never see ourselves. We I mean we can look down and see our hands. We can see parts of our body but we never see the complete picture of ourselves except through a reflection. That's the only way to do it but even a mirror is still just a reflection. So it's Kinda crazy to think you'll never actually see yourself you just can't but I think what's even more fascinating is that this also happens in the way we see ourselves mentally. Because for me to conceptualize what I must be like. I that's already tainted not tainted is the right word but certainly influenced by every single thought idea opinion belief that I have about myself and about the world as so. It's just. It's interesting this concept of the mirror and you can never actually see yourself and I think the thought process is similar so going to co on. What was your original face before you were born? I don't know that you can answer that. Because how can you see? How can you know I I can come up with a story about who I think? Might you know what I think. My original face was before it was born. But that's just another concept another idea. David mentioned the fact that We can always look back and recognize our our face old pictures and as I was reading his comments. You mentioned. We're so familiar with our face that we can always look back and see it even across the span of time and that was kind of an interesting comment to me because I realized that I can't recognize my face in some of my old pictures. I mean I can but it's it's strange to look at a picture at to humans and know that I'm one of them but because they both look exactly like me but I can only be one of them and I'm not sure which one I am. That's just a a twin thing but at a certain stage of our lives we looked almost Well we looked identical and we can still look at some pictures where all of us my my mom and my dad and my twin brother and I will look at it and we're all like Which one is which. And it's just A. It's kind of trippy to look at a human being that you like. I think that's me but I'm not positive. So that was kind of a fun mental mental process with with those comments so in my opinion with this co on I think the wording is interesting to me that the the wording with the word face specifically to me as always this is an invitation to explore the interdependent and nonpermanent nature of the self. But for me. It's it's fascinating to explore the line of thought to question. Not just before you know like what? What is your original face before you were born but go the other way in time. What is your original face after you're dead after you die and correlating this with the quote that tick not hunt talked about. Because I if I can look at my hands and in my hands I can see all of my ancestors I can also look at my hands and see all of my descendants the and in my case there are already some. I have three kids and it's fun to be able to see in them the continuation of not my face but my mom's face but not my mom's face my grandma's face but not my grandma's face my grandma and it goes on and on and on right across that span of time going back but also the span of time going forward and yet here we are in this precise moment and in this precise moment you know I can. I can see just how things are right now and it's just a fun thought process so the co on for me again. It's just an invitation to look inward all of these Cohen Czar and. It's a fun thought process but I do think the the Cohen correlates well with the topic. I wanted to talk about in this podcast episode. Which is the halt method? Now some of you may have heard of this or be familiar with it. It seems to be a method that's talked about in the realm of addiction and recovery. But it's also made its way into the realm of parenting techniques and. That's where I I heard it through my wife who has been listening to podcasts. In reading books all centered around the idea of a parenting and she was telling me about this halt method that with children. You want to help them. Identify in a moment where they're misbehaving or acting out and help them identify. Perhaps it's being triggered by halt which is ages for hunger a for anger. Alice for loneliness and T is tired in other words. Are you hungry angry lonely or tired because if you are then that's affecting whatever actions you're taking in this moment and I guess in the addiction and recovery realm it's similar. They use this technique to pause at the moment of craving like Let's say you you want to An alcoholic wants to consume again. The pause and say wait a second. I under one of these four things and I think it correlates really well with Buddhism because Buddhism. We have this concept of trying to pause right the pause between the stimulus and response. It's In that gap in that pause were essentially halting but. I think it's a cool technique that we can apply to ourselves in the mindfulness tradition where we halt and we ask ourselves who wait a second to my Hungry and not just hungry in the sense that need food although that is certainly a big factor but it I think it can be physical or emotional hunger. We don't fulfill our bodies nutritional requirements we and a lot of ways lose the ability to operate at full potential and can see this when you know somebody's stranded on an island or something. They reached the point of of intense hunger. And they're making decisions that someone who's not extremely hungry wouldn't be making And again just the trivial version of this like the snickers commercial that I've talked about which hits this right on the head. You're not you when you're hungry right because in a way you're not but it can also be a hunger for affection hunger for validation. The technique is that when as you go through the day and you're experiencing a difficulty motion or you you feel like saying something or you feel like doing something and if you can catch yourself. I don't know if I should say this. Just pause. Halt and ask yourself. Am I right now? Experiencing anything of the acronym hungry angry lonely retired so I talked about hunger anger while anger is a healthy and natural or normal emotion to experience over the reason. I think this one is so important is because we need to understand what's causing us to experience the anger because often it's other more complex layers underneath and we may think that we're just angry but there's probably a reason why were were angry. It could be that. Were embarrassed or ashamed. Or you know a lot of hurt Were in pain. Those things can be layers. That cause us to feel anger and if we don't pause to recognize what's happening. We may not be skillful with whatever's going to happen next and we can do skillful things when we are experiencing anger like going for a run or doing something to help. Get rid of that pent. Up Energy can be a skilful way of processing anger loneliness You don't you can feel lonely while being surrounded by a lot of people so this isn't lonely in the sense that I I'm all alone. It's slowly in the sense that we're not genuinely connected. I think we see this on social media right you can have a lot of interactions a lot of friends if we WANNA call him that on social media but it's it's not meaningful is not real deep meaning and you can be pretty lonely and I think there are a lot of lonely people in the world who are living very lonely lives in other words. They're going out there with friends. They're doing things all the time and yet they're they're really low lonely. I think their marriage is like this lonely marriages that You know the the interact and they talk and everything but maybe there are certain topics that they can't talk about. Or maybe there are certain vital connections. That the just can't be fostered or I don't know I think you get what I'm saying. That loneliness doesn't mean you're alone It means there's not a healthy connection. That's happening enough with enough people and I think once you feel more secure that feeling goes away so taking this to the to the method right if I pause and I asked myself wait. Am I experiencing one of these things I realized? Oh I'm I'm just really lonely right now because they haven't had meaningful connection with anyone for days or whatever. I might recognize it okay. That explains this potter. This comment or this action that I just did that. I'm about to do so I again. It's a useful technique and then the fourth one tired. This is the obvious right being sleepy. That takes a toll on us on our mind and our body but just in general operating to the level where we're constantly exhausted emotionally or physically or operating under the conditions of overwhelmed feeling overwhelmed us in hoppy ourselves and this is a critical time for that right. We're all in a new routine. Kids are home all day every day and it changes some of the dynamics that we can get overwhelmed and we can be tired and I just experienced this this week. this whole past week. I've been sick with a really sore throat and it reached the point in the last forty eight hours that the pain associated here that I couldn't eat food. I was only drinking liquids because it just hurt too bad to swallow so yesterday on Sunday I was wanting to record the podcast and I just wasn't feeling it and I sat down with all my thoughts and I did this method. I sat there and I thought. Am I hungry? Angry lonely tired and I was like I'm tired. I'm I'm pretty exhausted. I haven't slept well because I can't keep waking up because they can't swallow and I'm just feeling overwhelmed with a with Exhau- exhaustion and I thought well. Then why? Why would I sit here in record this I don't want to I WanNa be the me. That's not the exhausted me so that might be the me of tomorrow. But that's not the MIA right now and the MIA right now. Made the decision to not record podcast. So that's why the podcast came out today and not yesterday so that it was kind of fun to be putting this into practice but again I think this is a a really powerful technique that as we go through our day to day activities our goal of looking inward is to understand ourselves and I think this is a fantastic tool that works very well with Buddhist practice. Where what we're doing is we're pausing and going to halt at anytime. I'm experiencing difficulty motion. I can halt anytime feeling like maybe I'm GonNa say you're do something that I might regret. Halt and ask yourself is it because I'm under the influence of one of these four experiences and you may find more often than not that you are and that's that's why what you're feeling is so intense. You know the the the term hang green which I think is really funny. Term is is very real. You know if you're if you're hungry it can cause you to be angry thus the Akron Hungry and we use that one a lot here in our house and we. We have another one that I like. The which is hot. Hot gree- Because that's the big one for me. If if it gets too hot I start to feel like my patients levels. Just drop significantly. Because I don't enjoy being hot and some people have different things for me. That's one of if it's hot. I try to be very careful about what I meant to say or do because I know under the influence of that discomfort. So that's the acronym I hope this is something that works. Well for you as a tool and remember all these things all these concepts all these ideas. They're just tools right. There's no this isn't the way but Imagine that what you're building to go through life is A little tool kit and every time you you listen to a podcast or you read a book or you listen to define a cool quote. All these things are just little tools and you put them in your tool chest and then here you go. I've got this tool an under these certain circumstances. I know that this is the tool that will help me. This is one of those. The hulk method is just another tool that you can put in your toolbox and hopefully it can help you in your moments where you need to pause and ask yourself. Am I experiencing one of these? Four things hunger anger loneliness or tired and see see how that works for you so as always thank you for listening. That's all I have for this podcast episode If you want to support the work I'm doing with the podcast considered becoming a patron and joining our online community. Where we have discussions around these Cohen's and the podcast podcast episodes and more. You can learn more about that by visiting secular Buddhism Dot Com. And if you enjoy this podcast feel free to share it with others. Writer review give it a rating tonight tunes. And that's all I have for now but I look forward to recording another podcast episode soon before I go here. Is Your Zenko on to work with for this next week? One day Chaozhou fell down and the snow and called out. Helped me up. Help me up. Among came and lay down beside him. Chaozhou got up and went away till next time

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Creating a Workforce Driven To Learn and Grow

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Creating a Workforce Driven To Learn and Grow

"The welcome to the innovation calling podcast for we connect creators for the next big thing. Where your host Erin Gregor and see? Yes Oh torn rat the video welcome to innovation calling. Thank you thank you for having me. It's awesome to be here all right and we're here for another live show audience. Well how kind of sound like. There's more of them than there. Actually thank you for that. We need to get an applause. Sign Komo we. Do I do this so video. Thank you so much for joining us. I have a long history with Ericsson and I really haven't having admiration for the company. I feel like the last few years There's such a resurgence of energy. Not to imply anything before was bad. But I'M GONNA go ahead and say say it one hundred percent to do with you and you being the amazing person you are. Today it has to come from somewhere. And as as I've stocked you you have a degree in electrical engineering. Normally that is not one to be a Outgoing driver of culture of learning education in that way. Can you help me understand. Help with your background. I think my background academically clearly. It is engineering. But it's it's not just engineering and I do actually think that a lot of engineers are extremely intercultural because when and you are an engineer and you start to think about how systems work and how systems are designed you know that there are certain conditions in which system just won't work and the minute you translate that to human beings that's culture especially in the workplace. There are certain conditions in which the system of people that we are in the work that we have to do just doesn't doesn't work without a strong culture. So I actually think that that predisposition to think about culture in some ways actually comes from the engineering background at that we have and that is my background of my degrees are electrical engineering. But you could say the the other parts of the parts that weren't the degrees we're in very diverse and different things. I've always been very very interested in people in history especially wasn't sure if I would go to law school or engineering during school and I couldn't decide between the two for the longest time I've also always had a deep passion and reverence for the work. That today is called Sustainability Liberty which is just how do you take care of this earth. And how do you use. What at times seems almost magical in technology and engineering to actually actually transform lives and rural areas and take them into new places so that has always fascinated me engineering as much as what happens because of the engineering has always fascinated me and I think when I look at Ericsson as a company almost ninety five thousand people who care in the exact same way about what technology can do for the world? It's no surprise to me at all that over the last few years as technology has evolved served as four g becomes five eighty just right along with that. Evolution are people have evolved. And I think that's what we're seeing today and it's really exciting to live through that and be part of it uh it is. You've got a lot of personality and have to almost challenge you on your statement. My family is full of e Es and they do not not think like you at all have individual audience. I can vouch for you that they are a different type of personality. I guess you have a Oh you do have a lot of her senility. And I think that's such a critical difference. Has It helped you do feel rise up in leadership ship. Maybe is that what differentiated you. Because let's be honest a lot of e e that I know of our hardware folk or they're kind of get relegated to the I don't recall the bowels of the dungeon but and it's very. It's very dry work so help me again I think. Get that bridge cross. 'cause I'm not seeing that bridge which I guess I understand. Well I'll say this. I think I think the work in its totality is not dry and so I would almost save. The work is is driving. We're not leveraging enough of these people's talents and we're not doing enough of the work because the work in itself actually is always dry parts to every work but I think my experience has been engineers at different levels in different ways at different times are people engaged in the work of building stuff stuff that solves problems and that is rarely a solitary act inherently social. Because you're doing it for somebody buddy you have to do it with somebody. It's connected to a greater whole so I do think there are too many times though when we create cultural conditions that make the work seemed dry by that make. The people feel isolated that maybe don't reward or even recognize her encourage them to bring more parts of their personality to the work. I think I think that's a very real problem but I think for me. The connection was always that engineering is one thing but it was never the only thing in my life and all around me and my family and my friends in the cultural influences that I had growing up where I did when I did in the Eighties and seventies New Jersey never looked like just one thing it was always part of so many other things so for me. The Natural Bridge was simply that an engineer is one. Facet of my identity is not on my whole identity and my identity is me becoming someone who solves problems within four other people and sometimes is that requires the engineering toolbox times it requires other toolboxes. My grandfather was an attorney and I saw him do engineering type work in solving problems using a very different skill set so I think that showed me that. There are multiple tool sets to be used doing the work that you care about and it just never seemed like one something. So maybe that's the bridge or that I'm an only child and I wanNA talk to everybody possibly can so. Can you talk a little bit about your role as a chief learning officer. Because I'll be flat out honest. First Time I've ever heard of one and I'd love to know how the background in engineering the love for law like. I think it's such an interesting Combo how that's brought you to where you are. And what exactly do for Ericsson sure. And I'm new in my role. Relatively speaking this is my first year as chief learning officer desserts technically my career. I think being an engineer and before that believe it or not a camp counselor. So that's another part of my story there and then moving into into heading our commercial learning services business with our customers and then moving into this role so chief. Learning officer is the person who heads the function of learning and development in a company and they are responsible with their team for creating capability. Changing the skill. Skill sets the mindsets of the people in the workforce so that the company can grow its people to grow its business and grow its impact and that entails tails responsibilities such as upskilling taking population getting them to be at the next level of expertise. It often involves re-skilling taking A segment of the population where the work has moved to something else and creating brand new levels of expertise helping them to unlearn things. Things that they may know but aren't really relevant as much in the business and pivot to new things so in short chief. Learning officers role is to help all the people. All of the workforce reinvent themselves by creating the conditions in which they can create capability. You're touching so much of previous podcast. Cast that we have and this is why I'm so excited to have you. Is Generations okay. I'm a Gen xer I love to make fun of the millennials but also also realizing now I can't because they're now pushing forty. I got a pick on a new group. I'm not a boomer people so back off but your position position that you've come on. Is that a new position at Ericsson not to new. I'm the second chief learning officer that I believe we've had my predecessor was the first and and the position itself was given that title and name Designation Back in two thousand thirteen okay. So it's not very unlikely but it's it's fairly new but it's almost a decade now but it's so noticeable and I think I think we can all take a note out of our own pages of business that eagerness to learn that desire understanding of that culture so I did watch you and I talked to on the Internet because you know what I do. I didn't realize how much of an industry robust it was. Yes for this whole idea and concept of learning so help me understand. What is learning industry? Yeah is is it. I can say it from maybe even the perspective of a of a grateful outsider. Because I didn't grow up if you will professionally. In this industry being an engineer I grew up in different parts of the business and came to this place quite frankly ran to this place because of how attracted I was by the notion of an industry here here. The learning industry is undergoing so much change in turn over the years but it is definitely entering a new phase because companies are realizing realizing more and more that their competitive advantage is not just in what their people know but how their people handle what they don't know who and what they do about it and how they go about learning new things and conquering the unknown and I think that has required the industry to literally we grow up around this notion that people in the workplace have to bring their expertise and their skills every single day to get the job done but the work that needs to be done. It's not just the work of technical skills or project skills it's also the work of human skills. Yeah and all of us can relate to this. We often hire people for their skill sets sets in their resumes and all the things that they say on paper they know how to do those maybe hardcore skill sets and when we decide that we are letting people go or that. We really can't work with them anymore. Anymore usually has nothing to do with that and it has to do with an entirely different set of skills about human interaction emotional intelligence and presence and servant the leadership things that we normally hire for so this industry has grown in leaps and bounds because every company has realized that it's competitive advantage is how oh well its workforce learns learned and relearned and that requires many different things to happen it requires an ecosystem which is a fancy way of saying all of the it platforms and applications and so forth that create. The seamless employee experience to be able to learn in the first place. Where do my goal for learning? They need the programs that are aimed at having really special outcomes like I need to take this group of people and get them from being expert. R REF engineers to becoming data signs in novices that ultimately become data science experts so it's requiring the ecosystem it's requiring the programs. Most of all to answer your question. It requires the culture. Yeah the belief that learning needs to be a habit and that the companies who have people who feel that way you will always win over the ones that don't and so. This industry sprang up around that now unlike many other industries in this one when people in learning meet other people and learning. There's instant affinity instant sense of family almost and as somebody who came to this from the outside I was so shocked shocked and pleased to discover that this community of people so welcoming and in fact most people who are in it came from somewhere completely different. That is so true. You guys if you've ever walked into the Ericsson building here in Plano Texas. It is the definition of multiculturalism. It is I actually felt like I was back in California. To be honest I was like. Oh there's other ethnicities here with more affordable housing before. Don't curse us. uh-huh there've been some arguments about Texas. So let's go back to the whole idea of culture okay in an establishing that because I do believe culture is not it just bottom to top top to bottom. It is such an interwoven I don't know how to describe because I'm not a weaver person but I'm just saying it's in a rural it's it's not just one way or the multidirectional and Cross Training Eriksson a very good job that I feel like in over the last couple of years. They've really went gangbusters busters. What is what is it that you're doing that's helping to drive that you said you last year right? I'm in my first year my in this role by over the the last few years. What's happened in the industry I think? First of all is just the emergence of five gene as the next technological shift that is connecting things and people people like never before and it's requiring people to rethink everything that has both inspiration and consequences for the People Liebler Company because they have to rethink themselves and what they do and I think one thing Ericsson's done beautifully when it comes to culture is established very strong identity of who we are what we stand for. We are the company seeking to unleash all the benefits of connectivity for the world and for our businesses businesses and that requires people who really do feel a strong sense of purpose. That's such a critical word. I don't be here about purpose and it drives culture. I think in many ways. It's not the only thing but it is maybe one of those critical things that when you can mobilize a group of people to feel a strong unified defied sense of purpose but with this glorious diversity. That paradox almost seems to be the birthplace of of cultural revolution because people then start to feel a sense of identity about what's possible and it starts to change what they want then change what they believe and then change how they show up every day and I think we get to witness that almost in a cyclical fashion just like each new wave of technology technology to g becomes three G becomes net. Same Way I think that spirit of reinvention Ericsson has truly captivated how we've done that for our entire one hundred and forty year plus history and people feel that I talked to any employee. They feel that strong sense of mission and purpose and how this technology oh Jeez meant to change the world and they feel intimately connected with that and I think that's a powerful driving force for culture. I would love to know more because I think it's I think. Purpose is one of those buzzwords companies like to say yeah but whether they do it as a whole or like make people feel that there's purpose so I think it's so intriguing of especially Ashley intact because like you said. A lot of people come in with the skill set and they know that skill set and changes in that fun. So is your job helping align those is passed to say. Hey we WANNA make sure you're learning so you know this is a natural progression. would be to go to data science and we want to help you get there or is it a lot of just kind of creating that culture and letting them decide because I think sometimes in court especially at a company the size of Ericsson you can get lost and maybe maybe you don't know what you WanNa do or maybe you don't know where to go. So how much are you guiding versus helping versus creating can talk more definitely shoving him down the. Ah Yeah you bring up. A great point in the learning industry to there have been so many ships and I think there was a time when the role of the learning industry or the learning function learning and development function within a company was very much to guide people about where to go for things what to do what development path they should take. Take the route. Write the prescription for the kind of training that they needed. But I would tell you that. Especially for tech companies. Those days are long over. Yeah are we are so super informed as they should be I think most of them are acutely aware of what they don't need to know and our role pivots to do not so much prescribing. What they ought to do next but helping them channel what they want to do with where the opportunity lies within the company and then giving them the tools calls and the time yeah to reinvent themselves to get there so our role has shifted as well and require different things of the people who work in learning and development that we are not the prescription group? If ever we were definitely not that now our group is quite there too are calling calling is to help our people figure out there calling. Oh Okay I if we do that well we create the right conditions in which that can occur. I think our the people know and discover where they wanna go and when we make them feel that we will help them get there. I think that again is is a good thing for culture it builds itself so going to that then so as I was internet stocking you. You recently attended a great event that apparently guys almost died. Oh Are you done with the dilemma. On French Lens event fell on as we heard one of the letters almost fell on the panelist which is always a good symptom of a great event shook the room but there was one section that I kind of struck me since we're talking about it and we're kind of jumping ahead but that's what I do. It was talking about that. Putting in order to chaos a structure component. And then we're talking about you have one platform on the left and the spectrum where. It's kind of a one autonomous Here's where you'RE GONNA go to train. Everyone learns the same thing. Suck it up doesn't matter. which job description is this is? It is a model that the monolith and then you go. Oh all the way to the right and which is what they call the pure ecosystem or they were calling it. That where does Eric's and fitness because you're such a large organization I can and see where there's a lot of monolithic needs. You need a baseline but then where are you. I think we are. It sounds cliche. But we're in the middle. I think we're deliberately a hybrid. We are an enterprise company. Almost one hundred thousand people highly secure in the business that we do and therefore we always need a strong central platform. But step back and think about it. netflix strong Central Platform Amazon is a strong central platform. FACEBOOK is a strong central platform but each person feels if unique experience on those platforms. And that's what we're aiming for so yes there are strong central platforms in our ecosystem that anchor. Yeah and they cannot restrict it. They've got to be the kind of platforms that allow for meaningful degree of personalization and and lend themselves to being supplemented with a meaningful degree of localization on everything you need for learning. You're going to get off of platform a whole lot of what you need. You're going to get from other people so let's talk about that. What's a platform platform? The Way I'm talking about it is basically a combination of hardware and software square that creates usually a mobile or laptop based software environment. That you log into it knows who you are. It has experiences to offer you. And you take part in those and it tracks you in it somewhat evolves with you and produces a back end if you will of analytics about your usage edge. That helps us as its enterprise. Figure out what to do next when I talk about a platform. That's really what I'm talking about. It's usually an investment that we have to make in technology or an application Asian or something like that but again that's not the totality of learning at all. Ask anybody here and think to yourself. The last time you really experienced groundbreaking breaking learning. That just changed. Who you were probably was not from clicking on something that you were watching the name of e learning? It was from someone else or something that that you got to do with someone else. So what kind of challenges do you face in your role right now to get your company. You're kind of in the middle if you WANNA push a little bit. What are you facing right now to help? Get their thing. The most fundamental challenge we're facing is that every one of our ninety five thousand people has so much to learn and they know it and they have no time. Yeah feel they have no time but they can't afford not to and figuring out how to hack into everyone's lives in a meaningful kind way to help them make time for the kind of learning and relearning and learning they need to do that is our biggest cultural cultural challenge. And it's not going to be solved just by systems and platforms and things like that. It is truly a cultural challenge of how you get ninety five thousand people to make the time to change themselves. Yeah that's our biggest cultural conundrum. I wish I had the answer but I don't so I think okay so even talking very specifically around Eric's because we didn't say this earlier you guys but video has been with Ericsson for almost twenty years so she's actually early literally from birth has been working at Ericsson and Twenty years old twenty years old with with a child that I've decided is going to be eight years old. It's okay fine. I am totally re. I'm like hollow wooding your script for us and now that you've cut your teeth and a company that has seen a lot over the last decade or so right. Telco has evolved tremendously endlessly. So we've talked about all the great things and I'm not really want to focus on Erickson. It is just because he spent some years there that you can't been a great window up to the world in terms of technology and it is but you can't like mentioned your experiences. I mentioned Erickson so I'm going to try to separate it. Okay you've been with the company twenty or into whatever number since you were greater than twenty years since you were born in for twenty years one. There had been missteps in what you've seen. You're not talking Ericsson. Let's be clear there had been some we talk about all these great successes but there hasn't been some missteps along the way I'm learning you don't learn so much from success you learn from failure and I. It was a first critical oopsy when you were two years old and you made a mistake somewhere. What was it like there were so many? Don't even know where to begin so professionally. I think and one of the first things I ever worked on a completely got it wrong. What do you mean got it wrong? I had to the first group I was ever part of. We were responsible for designing networks six and we were literally telling people where to put their money. And how much of this you needed and how much of that you needed using mathematical models. I think I've forgotten negative sign somewhere and basically really got it wrong wrong in the direction of I think I was asking somebody to provision three times the quantity they actually needed. And you can imagine Agean. The shame that I felt when I showed it to the first person was like every bad feeling. You ever have when you get a test score back that you hate or you got your essay back and it's full full of red ink and it just that awful awful feeling but I had this manager at the time who's wonderful and he used to tell me look. Is this going to land you on the evening news now. Aw I've been on the evening news from my mistakes. Have you ever been on the evening. He literally reframed my entire standard for failure a that way so that was one of the most formative memories I have and that was just the you know. Maybe my entry level mistake on my professional career made them at Seoul so many ways. I can't begin to tell you my first career was as a camp counselor. You can't work with little kids and big kids without feeling that you yourself are making mistakes every day. I think it was great preparation for parenting to feel like a failure on very very often. I'm not able to get these kids to listen so the failures of come in many different ways but one of the worst I've ever had was as an engineer. A team that was leading that really in very difficult conditions made a human error that we could not detect and we didn't realize for hours and it affected a network in a terrible way and we had to go through years to regain the trust and become a better team that was not going to be susceptible optimal to those kinds of mistakes. But I have never been at such an emotional low a feeling not just failure but the more harmful part the failure which is shame. And I think that's what lit the fire in me that I really care about. Oh how we equipped teams so that the mistakes they make which they will invariably inevitably make don't cost so much. And how can I reduce use the cost of failure and if I invest. NFL If we do things to invest in the capabilities of people. Is there a way that we can separate the failure part from the shame. That's so hard easier said than done. I mean store. Do you think it's changing or do you think it's evolving. I'm arguing he's GonNa do it. NEEDS TO EVOLVE I. I don't think it's changing fast enough. I don't think it's changing fast enough. And this whole podcast for women in tech and I think this is something we uniquely everyone struggles with chain but I do think women one in particular really can be tough on themselves God and you know almost weaponize Shane. It is true in the face of failure yet. The most powerful profound improvements happen when you are able to completely decouple failure from Shane and we have to learn how to do that back to learning. That's not a skill. Most people don't have and they're not born with but those are teachable. And so for me. Learning is not just about about those technical skills or even those human skills are the things you get from a platform but these things that we get from one another that literally peach us not just how to build better systems but but how to cope with our own shortcomings in a way that just allows us to grow without this burden of shame that accompanies especially in the high tech high. I stakes industry. Failure is not fun but it's fundamental and it's going to happen if you can decouple it from shame it becomes formative well well and especially in your role too because you have to encourage people especially to be uncomfortable and try something new and okay. You're comfortable on your job all right now but I mean I can't imagine the hurdle you have to try to overcome not just to help people but to embrace it to be you. You know what I mean not knowing how to to deal with virgin embrace that and to but you know what I think. One of the biggest hurdles is in all honesty. The hurdle is hypocrisy where. I'm sorry to hear that what's policy. I think the biggest hurdle is hypocrisy. Because the worst thing I could do is sit there and feel comfortable myself. Yeah data until everybody else. Please get into your get outside your comfort zone. And so that is a danger that we often. Yeah and I think that's one of the biggest hurdles and I say that as an engineer as A. That's an engineering hurdle but also cultural hurdle as well we we have an obligation to be an engine of empathy. Yeah to do this job right. And and the biggest hurdle is for us to be able to genuinely tell our people I am exactly like you. I'm where you are but I'm and also connected to this capability to this expertise to these platforms. I'm systems to help you reinvent yourself but I know what that discomfort feels like us. I'm there right now myself. Totally not comfortable. Look at me watch me fail. I'll do it again next week. And I think that transparency empathy are the only two ways that I know to overcome that particular hurdle. But I think more than the challenge of people are busy. We have to help people so find new ways I think the actual hurdle is the danger of hypocrisy that we sit there and sort of tell people what to do and what we're telling them to do is something we don't do ourselves by. Hi You nailed it right there because I actually wrote down empathy engine like I sent him a good soccer view. I hear here this Aaron and I've heard this many many times was a lot of our former guests. Yeah there's something about women leadership and I would like to challenge you on this. It's a stereotypical statement. I'M GONNA make here that. There are men that are in leadership roles that will never ever show weakness yet. Women leaders eaters tend to open up. The KOMO sounds wrong word. That's that's our. This is wrong word and laugh away. It's okay. I'm not the most appropriate person Jason but that women leaders are okay and comfortable showing vulnerability and amongst women if from the leadership perspective because they're opening themselves to that empathy engine that you're talking about amongst women it actually brings us closer but for men. It's somewhat I don't I don't WanNa say repellent but it's a weakness. Do you agree or disagree with that statement. I guess I don't agree because my experience has been been different and but by that I mean the best leaders I've ever known men and women both showed me they're vulnerable and I've had leaders who are women. Uh who showed no vulnerability and they were some of the worst bosses. I ever had telling me about that. I'd rather not sorry. I mean you know it's not real you know it's not real and I think authenticity is it comes down authenticity. I can't trust trust you if I can't see you. And if you show me this fake facade where nothing is wrong and you're impenetrable and nothing gets to you and and you don't handle it. Well I don't trust you and I wonder what you do when you go home and I hope you don't kick your dog or something like that because I can't see and the best leaders I've ever had were the ones that were unapologetically human. But they were always trying to be their best. Selves that showed that vulnerability they showed what was worrying them. They showed what was exciting them. They showed their own struggle to get a handle on their chaotic work. Lives and family lives and they were so real they made you want to be better and I have never seen that divide so much along gender lines in my own experience but in many ways I think I was very lucky. I've been around. I've grown up. Say with a lot of men in my family a father my grandfather so many aunts and uncles uncles who who modeled walmer ability and so you could almost say my normal which I it took for granted I now look around and realize wow. That's actually not normal for a lot of people to have had that very much affected my standards for what good leaders are so would have to challenge you. I have not seen this evenly divided along gender lines there. Who was there in line to? I know like some people get over sharing over. Yeah over transparency crying today. Yeah I am GONNA go kick my dog. I'm really angry today but deny cool. Don't care line and do you. Can you help define that line and I do think there's a line and I think the line is there's a point at which you know that you are conveying the struggle to access your better self in a way that keeps your team permission to do the same thing and when you're doing that it's good. Yeah there's a line before that the other side of that line is there's always that voice inside your head. The one that tells you all the wrong things the one that's full of fear and self doubt and the one that is the one with the temper and making you not be your best self acknowledging its there is important describing describing everything. The voices saying is unprofessional. So I think that's the lying on me you know I it. Basically empowering versus versus disempowering if me sharing my latest mistake is going to be empowering for the people hearing it because they think okay. She's totally early real concerning but she's totally real. I can relate to her and I if she's working hard to overcome this I can too. It's worth sharing with sharing. It makes them think okay. I'm dialing nine one one. That's not a good idea so for me. It's the line is it's got to be empowering the example that you're setting has to be an empowering one I think which goes back to culture I think Again because of your organization. You've been with them so long. We're GONNA have to you know the the company how do you promote that desire to keep learning to keep bettering yourself to keep moving and striving having towards not just your coding job or you know whatever the task may be. How do you envision and how do you promote that? I guess it's almost failing. Sorry say it again. Sorry yeah well no I was GONNA say to her question like to add to encourage that keep failing following I mean does Ericsson Eriksson have a hey try it. Did you fail or you lose your job because people keep trying. Obviously that's a header right and there's some failure. We can easily easily tolerate and encourage fast failure and learning from it and the needless to say there's other kinds of failure that come from lapses and negligence and negative areas and we have no tolerance zero tolerance for that kind but the first kind the formative failure you know the best way to encourage it is what what you do when it happens because what I promote just doesn't matter compared to what I tolerate and what I demonstrate so I could tell you all day fail go ahead see a fail and then you do it and I make you feel unsafe. Yeah I make so you feel shame I make you feel sorry and I make you feel self conscious. There's nothing I can say to you or anybody around you about fail fail failed. That's is gonNA matter after that 'cause I just lost credibility so for me it's the promotion is not the people want to get better at. I think it's quite human to want to better yourself. The the crux of it is that we keep creating conditions where people can't do it and so it's more than promoting failure. It's demonstrating mistreating that we can tolerate it happening. In a way that makes people feel safe enough empowered enough to show up and try again try differently and know that we still believe in them that to me is the piece that has to happen the rest is just words that sounds very millennial. Uh I'm sorry I mean okay. Okay okay I don't know I don't think that is I. I can't imagine generation that wouldn't want that millennial in the sense that I don't know anyone that wouldn't want to be in those kinds of conditions when we make mistakes. We are full of regret often. Were full of shock and shame and all of those things and when you remember the people that came to your aid and made you feel safe and helped you out of the whole and and you remember the people who reminded you how deep the hole was isn't that millennial acknowledged that whereas maybe Orlando only twenty one years old. So yeah are you are cutting one. So you're actually Jesse now you're not even millennial consumer baby but I feel like older generations. There was I. I don't think it's generational. I think it's the sign of the Times people. We are now living in an age where we've done so many behavioral science studies so many in case studies in Harvard Business Review about companies. The data's just screams at us that this is how you need to be performance regardless of the generation because of technology forcing us to evolve or of all I think technology and again being in a connected world that's getting ever more connected when everything is connected. It's a lot harder to hide stuff and so you very quickly see how good emotions multiply how. How bad emotions divide how you know? A good example of something now can go viral and be so powerful and you have examples everyday eh headlines of people losing their temper and away that's now captured on social media and it gets out there and that's it that's the end of it so again. I think it's not generational it's it's almost. It says the time we're living in. You can't hide that stuff anymore and people know that when you uplift inspire and make it safe for other people. Great things happen systematically. And when you don't they don't so anybody who aims to create a business outcome that means means anything has to tap into the fact that authenticity creating psychological safety having a culture where people can speak up. That's not a nice to have that is an actual prerequisite for performance and without it. You don't have it. and that's to mean dependent of how Ol- do work forces where they yeah from the one part that's totally universal on. I think too like I always intrigued. By the when we've talked about this to like the suck it up or you know. Oh you're not you're not living. You're purpose Mr Benigno like suck it up and do your work. You know what I mean like. We've kind of come across that And I know see and I've had conversations about who's right like should they suck it up or should we like to your point now that we know better now that we've seen what vulnerability can do now that we've seen these things. Maybe we need to take away from the Gen xers mind. Sadder the mindset that we were tied and we need to do that. So you see the point of. I don't know if this is necessarily question but it is a you know better you do better and you can't just say well. It's a millennial thing it you know so the when I hear these characterizations of what this generation wants and what that generation values especially the up and coming generation what they want. My first thought is I want that to I want that. I don't know anybody that doesn't want that the differences that I see generational are. What will you do if you don't you get that? Oh Yeah I and that's where I see a difference because some generations have been maybe you say culturally and sociologically eh conditioned that deal with it. If you don't get what you want tolerate it you have to. You've got to drink. Upper lip stiff upper lip. You've got active provide for your family and many people feel that in every generation so those forces are the ones that make you compromise on many things because you have to you. Yeah but many of many of the kids growing up today and many of our people here today don't have to compromise. The world is smaller and bigger bigger than it ever was before there's more choice and opportunity than there ever was before. And if you don't get treated the way you deserve to be treated and you're not treating others the way they should be. Something's gotTa change and you should not tolerate that and I think that's the part that I see differently. Everybody wants these same things. It's not just what Jesse wants. I totally orderly. I'll go on record. I want what Jesse wants. I WanNa Work Aligned with my purpose I wanNA come to a working environment. It's completely flexible and human. I WANNA work with other human beings who are really human. I want to know that our team celebrates diversity has a shared sense of purpose that brings us together and cares about making things. It's easy and I wanNA feel that I can bring my whole self to work. That seems like a God given right and not having that aw is no longer acceptable. So I don't know what the saying is but it's called when you're talking a certain phrases and the music music POPs in people's heads. There's a song which music called. I need a hero and I'm not GONNA sing. I think you should sing it. I think you should should sing. Girls wanted to sing it. You'll sing it and I will but no not now because I don't have wine enough nearly enough in me on this but but I've got this song. I need a hero and so when we talk about US I hate to say this but and it shouldn't be this way. But there's this term look heroic and and say how ROIC I can't say row either Rural Railway Karol leadership and spin it was also the ad that heroic leadership at the women facet to it. I feel like what you're describing is what most people Menendez men and women would like to strive for to lead the qualities that one wants to strike for. But you know because because it's women's leadership I'm just GonNa roll with wonder woman. Let's talk about wonder woman he's awesome. She's like beyond amazing. She came about in the forties right the thirties as forties right. Now would she if we were to put her in your role today. How do you think she would be or in a CEO Position Awesome Our for wonder woman any. Let's they're Isis. Yes wonder woman you know why superstrong Super Smart and Super Compassionate and that stereotype stereotype was new in media back when she came back. Then yeah absolutely. The the notion of strength was not really something that was seen as compatible with compassion and one of the things that struck me as a kid watching that show along with so many any others was that here is female protagonists Superhero with incredible strength and incredible intelligence. And she's a really nice person a cold she's not mean she's warm and kind and friendly to the point that you would never guess how superhuman she actually is and that is so revolutionary when that happened but I think that was actually just ahead of its time in recognizing. That's the kind of leader we would all want to be in have and these things of being smart and driven and strong a all of that stuff is not and should never be considered incompatible with being gentle and nice and kind and caring. That's not a weakness. It's part of her strength. And you see that today reflected in other more and more it's not represented enough in the media but when I think of Star Wars and I think of the trilogy trilogy happening now and the character ray here. You've got this aspiring jed eye and cheese again all these things. She's strong she's smart. She's resilient she's Independent. She's Super Nights. Geez she looks like impossibly Nice. I'm sorry it's the way the force anyway but apparently the force be with you sure forces with but my point is that. I think we have to embrace that. This is the kind of leadership model and standard. We should hold hold definitely for women definitely for men and when I think about all of the workplace statistics that show that women are fifty percent of our world population than their less than twenty five percent of the population in in accompanying especially in positions of leadership. My first thought is not bad. That's really bad for the women. My first thought is. That's really bad for the men and women to be in such an imbalance environment. It's bad for for everybody. And when you can meaningfully change. Those dynamics all boats riots. I want to work in the kind of place where there's that kind of gender intelligence and diversity diversity because it's good for both men and women everybody wins. Nobody's losing and that's because it naturally gives rise to this new standard of leadership that should not be the exception actually still kind of is. It's unfortunate 'cause I actually was was on Lincoln the other day and there was an announcement on I think. Oh my gosh looks like some months ago female new announced CEO. No first time female. CEOS company I forgot the name of the company but I read the comments for fun and this one individual said what this. This is a big deal. Why is this a big deal so what a female CEO big deal and it was a guy who replied and I can't tell you he got jumped on so hard I would like to think he was trying to be in a gala -tarian if you will saying it should be a big deal? That's what his point to be truthful. I've seen his previous posts and he was was not exactly the opposite not a jet no he was not a no. He was not supportive of the jet. I force at all but that being said in a way I would like a day. It wouldn't that be nice to see a day. Where does the king just simply an announcement? Nothing more about the gender and doesn't matter so okay so but we have to be very careful careful in incorrectly believing that we're already there okay. So let's talk about this because one of the reasons why I really wanted to talk to you because Ericsson has such a great relationship with next generation stem if you will support for the next on Russia whether male or female. Obviously there's organizations that you promote doc I mean technology's evolving so quickly. There are certain demographics that are left behind. Yes that is the a Disparity inequity diversity depending on where your educational background is socioeconomic background exactly too easy to get left behind in this pipeline and that is just a criminal thing that we have to correct so again from your position. And you don't have to say you're you're not saying from Ericsson. This is your personal opinion. But where do you see it changing because right now with the status quo. Aaron agree or disagree. You've got children. When do the kids? How do you promote stem? What where every moment I tell people and I mean it? If you plan on being an earth the air-breathing human welcome to stem. Because it's not a choice. It's the air you breathe breathe. This is a stem world. And you could be in the most artistic endeavor and you will not get away from the role that technology math science dance technology engineering. We'll play and it's actually a fallacy for us to raise children letting them believe that they can choose is not stem so instead we have to reframe it as welcome to Earth. Welcome to this new world where technology is powerful and we have a choice whether it is empowering disempowering and being so powerful and therefore you have to take your rightful place and recognize that whatever you do whatever whatever you're passionate whatever your purpose is it's never going to be incompatible with a stem driven world and therefore status quo is unacceptable and we have to change it. And that's why I'm so proud of the work that we do through our technology for good work where where has many partnerships including an initiative called connect to learn. It's all about taking kids who won't have that same kind of access to education and all the things that an Internet connection affords in making sure they have that advantage and here. It manifests as our alliance with the girl scouts. Something I'm so proud of that. We do because because we are building. Tomorrow's workforce right now today and we are changing that pipeline by changing what we consider whereas acceptable and so. That's why I say yes. I long for the day where it's we did it. It's not even a thing anymore. It's just it's the new normal but I am super aware of the danger of ever believing that we're already there because that can lead to complacency that we just can't afford we've got and I know this because I I felt all of these things myself every test that came back bad every quiz I ever failed every course I ever struggled with where I needed so much help where where I had to work four times as hard to get half the grade. How often and easily you can interpret all of that to say? I'm not qualified and that is wrong. I mean learning. I know doesn't mean you're not qualified. It just means you're not there yet. You didn't find the right key to unlock the door. You didn't find the right teacher. The learning method that you needed and too many people girls and boys but especially girls that a very young age they disqualify themselves us because they interpret these things as signs that they can't get better with all the data shows us that just the belief in a growth mindset just the belief relief that you reframe and choose to say. Yeah I think I can get better with time. Just that belief unlocks a completely different set of outcomes. That's magic. We have to harness that magic and we have to help intervene early enough that these kids feel that they cannot reinterpret that failure that they're feeling and as the finish line it's just feedback for the next thing that they're going to become so I do feel that we can't ever say we're there. We're not aw and it's dangerous things that we are but I longed for the day. Well I think you're I think you're making strides into video with everything that I see in learning about Erickson again Dan. My two years ago experiences just the impact I can see an actual visual change in body language. Even and I think it's great. I mean Erin when we can keep talking about this. I know already into like running into a all night long conversation with the air and you have any additional questions questions now. I want to make sure we open it up for the audience media. I think Ericsson isn't such a great position and it's not just because you're my former client you guys ep payment but but but truthfully though if if I were a student and we have seen countless social media posts of a recent college grads are soon be college as these individuals are saying. I don't know what to do with my degree. I May Not WanNa code all day long. How could they reach Chaozhou? Eric's and what was your recommendation in to getting down that path of the career that you so lucky got into at two years old twenty years ago first of all. I don't ever want anyone to feel bound by degree. And degree a credential that empowers you not a limitation that prevents you from going in a different direction. I hope hope on living proof. At least of that. It's it's just a credential that powers you on your way. The next thing I would tell them it's please go to Ericsson Dot Com and apply why we are always hungry for talent from all backgrounds from all perspectives and we know having a company like ours. Ninety five thousand people hundred eighty countries. We only get that way because of the spectacular diversity of our people so I would tell those people don't even even hesitate to apply. Tell us what you love to do. Tell us what you really good at. Tell us what you want to become good at and engage with us and and we really believe we'll take all of us to create this new five G. and then sixty and seventeen all that to create that new world so so I want people to feel that there are opportunities not just with Ericsson but this world is technology world has so much opportunity and not it just in tech. We need artists. We need the poets. We need everybody because technology at the end of the day is just a means to an end of connecting people and it needs. It's all of these different disciplines so I would want them to know that that background their unique background is never a weakness. It's a strength to be built upon and and we need them. You need that talent. Aaron her face girl we are like getting on the hour so anyway thank you you very much video. Thank you so At intermission calling you know what I think. That's going to wrap up for another episode of Innovation Calling

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Future trends in IoT (2/2).

Salvador Marin

05:19 min | 6 months ago

Future trends in IoT (2/2).

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Coachcast #1220  Como ser um produtivo Funcional

COACHCAST Brasil

16:49 min | 2 months ago

Coachcast #1220 Como ser um produtivo Funcional

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Episode 136: Saving 200 Million Lives - President Trump vs. COVID-19

Newt's World

26:50 min | 3 months ago

Episode 136: Saving 200 Million Lives - President Trump vs. COVID-19

"On this episode of neutral to should not stop you from going about your life should not stop you from going to Chinatown and going out to eat come to Chinatown. Here we are. Again, careful sake come join US Roosevelt came up with a thing that you know was totally different than a then the this call he called the. The World War Two he had the world war production or will be invoking the defense production act just in case we need it and it can do a lot of good things if we need it so we will be invoking the defense production act the president said it was a hoax they minimize the seriousness of it. We put on a band of China where China can't come in and before March we put on a ban in Europe where Europe can't come in. So how could you say I wasn't taking it seriously This is new virus. I'm recording from all see you may notice a difference in audio quality. I'm? Going to. Explore. Is the correct assertion. That because of Donald Trump's failure two, hundred, thousand Americans died a covert. War is the correct assertion that because Donald trump moved early and aggressively. Over two million. Americans alive today. Who would have died if he had followed the advice of Joe Biden Nancy Pelosi others. This is one of the most important questions. The American people need to explore and Ridge incision about. A few weeks. Fact is that a very early date? The president was vise by key public health against. That we had to move decisively. Or over two point, two, million Americans would die. President Mubarak very decisive when he moved decisively. People. On the left by Pelosi Paris and others all attacked him some ridiculed. Because said, he was doing too much to fair source and I've been threat. When you look back you realize ahead we follow. The Biden Harris Pelosi model. We probably boss five or six or seven times as many murders. So, let's put this in context. Let's look at the facts and I think you'll see. How big the difference was between what President Trump did. And what his opponents would have done. Remember that this all starts in China, the Chinese virus despite all the politically correct efforts to get away from him just as by the way the decade earlier, each one n one was A. Which Joe. Biden mishandled terribly when he was vicepresident, you compare vice president. Biden's epidemic experience with by scratch princes epidemic experience. You'll see the difference Biden was competent, and in fact, his own top aide has said publicly informs that they just blew. So, in this case back in December Chinese doctor and warning people that something was going on on that, there was a SARS like disease moving around and he was suppressed whether Chinese go it was back in late December when Lee I warned friends on, we chat about a SARS like disease going around lease into group message saying that test from a patient quarantined at the hospital where he worked showed a patient had corona virus but hours after hitting send hunt city health officials tracked down questioning where he got the information within days they closed the suspected source of the virus, the seafood market, and they announced the outbreak but instead of being praised Li got a call from Wuhan City Police. Because they didn't think about her talk about. On city police sent visited. Another Chinese whistle blower of our August said there were over forty cases before the end of December and that information would a potentially stopped corona virus who spreading to other countries. But in the Chinese government, Kim Heine our government already know that before the end of December, they are over forty people in fact not as mentioned. Mike tiny silent and also most importantly our human-to-human transmission but. The center. Rector Robert Redfield was warned by his Chinese counterpart of the possibility of the Chinese virus. So he notified Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex as our who immediately started quite a team in the White House noticed immediately started quitting. That point in mid January the end would we need to travel them? Travel Amas Berry controversy both from the standpoint that some epidemiologist don't think it works and from the standpoint that some people thought it was going much too fast. On January twenty so Let's get this clear. Raleigh things, Joe Biden. Says, they're displaying not true. January twenty seven. Biden writing an op-ed for USA Today and says the foul quote. I remember how trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the two thousand fourteen bowl epidemic he called President Barack Obama Dope competent and railed against the evidence based response. Arbitration, put in place which weld the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands advised in favor of reactionary travel bans though only have made thin George someone repeat this one line who January twenty seventh and USA Today by Joe Biden. WHO said reactionary travel bans would only have made things worse. The next day ronn claim who was Biden's chief person dealing with these kinds of diseases said the ban is quote premature? Would you ban? Chinese travelers from arriving in the united. States. Wouldn't I? Think that's premature. January thirtieth. Zico Manual on CNBC EMANUELA ADVISORS to Democratic Party healthcare tells Americans they should quote take a breath and stop panicking everyone in America. Should take a very big. Breath slowdown and stop panicking and being hysterical. On January thirty years the campaign in Iowa Bein calls trump's China travel beds xenophobe. So listen to Biden in his own words, corona virus and made from China. And National -mergency worldwide alert. The American people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it. That he is going to act rashly about it. And moments like list. This is where the credibly president is most needed. As he explains what we should and should not do. This is no time for Donald Trump's record of hysteria xenophobia. Xenophobia. And the following day he doubles down when he tweets out quote, we're in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus, we need to lead the way with science, not donald trump's record of hysteria, xenophobia and fearmongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency. Now, notice this man are big arguments because. While, it's clear in this paragraph, Biden is talking about corona virus. He claims he said Senator Phobia he wasn't really referring to the ban on Travel Jon. Following Day, but we're second. President trump. Puts the together a ban on travel from China. And it takes awhile for totally work because there are substantial number of American citizens who have the legal right to come home even after the ban, but clearly as of February second. Trump was already moving. For Third, the World Health Organization director-general oppose the ban. Member that the we'll have a vicious very close to the Chinese Communist Party. And? Head said there is no reason for measures that aren't necessarily interfere with international travel and trade. We call on all countries to implement decisions that are evidence based and consistent. So notice. World Health Organization you saw everybody not to worry. At. A point when we now know in retrospect, there's a worldwide pandemic we get into bill. But February twenty, four, th squeaker Nancy Pelosi encourages people to visit Chinatown don't just take my word word. Here's Speaker Pelosi come to Chinatown here we are. Again careful say and. Come join us. For Roy Twenty nine trump addresses the nation after the first. Koga debt. At this moment, we have twenty two patients in the United States currently. that. Have Corona virus unfortunately one person passed away overnight. Now people are coming to grips with this not quite sure exactly what to do and our Marchena. Voucher says people do not need we wearing masks walking around. Here, it's not cheap. So right now people should not be why there's no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you're in the middle of an outbreak. Wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. So people really rushing were this and the president is trying to follow the best possible medical epidemiological advice. But even that advice starting to change as you can see with Dr Foster. But March twelve to abide releases his Kobe nineteen. Which actually looks pretty plagiarized trump campaign one. Decisive public health response to curb the spread of disease. And to provide treatment those who need it and a decisive economic response delivers real relief to American workers, families and small businesses and protects the economy as a whole. are offered as a roadmap. Not for what I will do as president ten months from now. For, the leadership that I believe is needed required at this very moment. And it turns out that much of what he's. Describing back precisely what the president is doing. March Thirteen The New York Times released a CDC prediction, the two hundred thousand to one point seven million people who die is actually a lower number than an Oxford University prediction that it could be two point two. So the president is trying to react to a risk the we could be facing the death of somewhere between two hundred thousand or one point seven, million people. I would argue the you can make a very good case that there are at least a million and a half Americans alive today despite the Center for Disease Control. Because president trump will quickly frankly had governor Cuomo governor Murphy not done amazingly destructive things killing thousands and thousands of senior citizens. The death rate would be substantially lower because those two states New Jersey in per capita. That's New York total. Thus clearly are liars given by very bad policy by two liberal. Democrat. Governors. Hi this is new. 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You'll also receive a Mex- bimonthly magazine full of inciteful articles on issues of motor most Shan with me and stand with Amac even more vital now with the election. Joined today. AMAC DOT you s forward slash newt. That's A. M.. A.. C. Dot U. S. forward slash Newt Amac the US forward slash newt. March thirteen trump declares the Kobe nineteen Bergey. To unleash the full power of the federal government that this effort today I am officially declaring a national emergency. On Seventeen Governor Cuomo's positive about President trump I spoke to the president this morning again. He is ready willing and able to help that part remember Cuomo's being into panic. Because the Hospital Association and the does not want people with covert in hospitals he's going to send them to nursing homes the worst possible thing but frankly made the lobbyists for the Hospital Association. Happy and that time it looked like they might not have enough. Equipment to be able to take care of him, they might not have been up ventilators they might not have been possible beds. Now that point, the Chinese by March when its second begin spreading total disinformation just part of what's in period I that the disease originated will on China second that the Chinese blocked experts who come in to see and learn about the disease and early family in third. They have be attacking claiming you didn't start there on push twenty shocking. The Chinese TV reported and Italiam, medical experts says, the Corona virus may have circulated initially before the outbreak in China shoes a lot is typically what we're dealing with the Chinese all the way through. March Twenty Fifth Governor Cuomo said six three hundred recovering cogan patients to nursing homes. And they're they will affect others and the estimate is the governor Cuomo taken care of the Hospital Association Probably Killed Six to twelve thousand senior citizens who otherwise might have been what? By March thirty, doctor Burke says doing everything. Perfect. Could still lead to two, hundred, thousand us if we do things together well, almost perfectly, we could get in the range of one hundred thousand to two. Hundred thousand fatalities, Muggeridge schedule. It is when you have the scale of a pandemic. WE'RE GONNA suffer losses and the question is the president trump's actions tribute to those losses or the president trump's actions actually contain the losses. I would argue that in fact, president trump probably save between a million five, hundred, thousand, two, million Americans Dr Brookes goes on to point out that. The virus is going to go everywhere not just New York National Media Jersey and again here's Dr Bergson rewards no state no metro area will be spared about point. Biden's deputy campaign manager backtracks by statements from claiming. Quote Joe Biden supports travel bans are guided by medical experts advocated by public health officials and backed by a full strategy science supported this ban. Therefore, he did to remember this is exactly the same guy who was ridiculing the ban earlier calling a separate phobe. By. May Fifteen. President trump is implementing operation warp speed. He is already established. The private sector will beginning to ramp up production of every single thing you need to cope with the disease were beginning to be the arsenal of creating health products and get into really develop an amazing range of American responses. But as we thought at one point, people were very short at certain kinds of medical equipment within a few months reproduce so much we'll be in the Senate all around the planet. Part of that's because the president not only up to the operation works which was aimed at finding a vaccine. Put an addition he also invoked the Defense Production Act and I. Think It's worth just listening to the president as he implements. Operation. Works. We have the mighty as military in the long history of humankind. We have the best and most devoted workers ever walked the face of the earth, and now we're combining all of these amazing strengths for the most aggressive vaccine project in history. And then notice that in the same frame of reference, he's moving down the road towards the defense production to allow us to really contract and develop. Moving back from China, the production of things which concluded, we couldn't lion China for with this new agreement my administration is using the defense production act to provide a seven, hundred, sixty, five, million, dollar lung. To support the launch of Pharmaceuticals. By July. Twenty eighth. Doctor decided Amasau necessary. I'm referring to them. Now, the fundamentals and the fundamentals are not rocket science. It's universal wearing of masks avoiding crowds, close the bars and the point of that says. It's not Chaozhou was necessarily wrong. Things were changing people were learning and I think it's very important to recognize that when you say talk the president about science, he's listening to the scientists and these medical doctors all the way through their advice is also changing as they learn more. But July thirtieth Dr Pouches clearly that the president's decision. Actually saved was here listening to him describe on his own. What he thought do you agree with that decision I? Do Do you think that decision saved lives Doctor Fauci? Yes I do. You agree with the decision. Win Ultimately. We saw spreading Europe, and then the president recommended that we extend that to Europe. Did you participate in that discussion? I was actively involved in that discussion Sir do you agree with that decision? Yes, I do do you think that decision saved lives? Yes I do a eventually then we saw the United Kingdom have an outbreak and there had to be a tough decision made do we extend that to the United. Kingdom. Where you part of that decision I was and do you agree with that decision as well? I, do did that decision save lives? Yes, it did. So. By posed, Pelosi had opposed Harris. Center posed the president's travel ban we put it down but. As situation worse, all of a sudden, the Democrats side they have to rewrite history. So here is the National Press Secretary for the Biden campaign giving you the new version of reality which was the by never said the things by said. Let, me just clarify you're saying that Joe Biden was four closing down travel from China when the president did. Joe Biden has been clear and I can send you the fact check Zip. They're helpful Brett Joe Biden been clear that he was not against that travel ban but he was formed that Joe Biden has been clear about this. Again, I can send I can send you the fact checks if they're helpful this has been fact checked into oblivion. It's important to remember this point as Bein is beginning to rewrite historical record pretending that he had never said, he was against the travel ban he had never said it was phobic etc that this is typical. Because buying himself was vice president when he had a job exactly carol to was President Princess Job he was a disaster. And Ron Klein who worked with him and his close to him and supports him said it was purely fortuity. That H one, N one who's not one of the great mass casualties or time sixty, million Americans got h one n one in that period of time. But to claim himself both describing the scale of it and then describing how everything they had done. It not worked and that Biden was simply a failure at dealing with the separate in. I've just had a couple of things that I mean I. I was in the White House in two, thousand, nine, two, thousand, ten working vice president, Biden. I wasn't involved directly in the H One n one response but I I lived through the White House staffer and what I will say about it is bunch of really talented really great people working on it and we did every possible thing wrong. And it's you know sixty million Americans got h one n one in that period of time, and it's just purely a fortuity that this isn't one of the great mass casualty events in American history and nothing to do with us doing anything right just had to do with luck. and so if anyone thinks that this can't happen again to go back to nineteen eighteen, they just have to go back to two, thousand, nine, two, thousand, ten, imagine a virus, the differently Saudi, and you can just do the math on that. So the questions were simple. When you look back over the year is very challenging buried of. And you realize that the president was being advised that there would be essentially a million and a half dead couldn't resist control potentially over two point two million dead based on a study in Britain. And he reacted decisively and aggressive. He reacted to help me city both by sending a navy. Ship with hundred beds by Heaven Yami set up four field hospitals and by having the corps of Engineers Build out the convention center to handle another twelve hundred beds, and by the way we created so many Benjamin city, but almost none of them were used. But the president was responding to the danger of a massive catastrophe them. The. Opposite of what Obama and Biden the done. So you end up I. Think. With a history, the spread clue. President trump reacted early reacted based on scientific and medical advice to very decisive steps including closing down what had become the best economy in American history. Felt that. That was necessary to save lives. And did everything he could to accelerate production both of the therapeutic equipment we use today and of the various back seems we hope will decisively defeat Kobe I. Think the president's view is that we have to fight the virus not be afraid of the virus whereby wanted to hide in the basement and do nothing president felt as Americans we had to stand up and enter the battlefield defeating the virus in every possible way from social isolation to getting the right kind of therapies and the therapy improved dramatically over the last few months so that the virus is going to be less and less of a mortal threat and more and more go manageable problem. And that setting the combination of hypocrisy in hysteria both in the news media and in the Biden Harris Campaign I think is just astounding. And I think the question offer the American people should be you want the guy who probably save a million and a half to two million lives Donald trump or do you want the guy who fail? At the beginning of this crisis who took the wrong possessions would have a wild travel from China to continue would have allowed many more Americans to die. And I think that's a huge real challenge. So I hope but allowing you hear people on voices I hope he can see how dishonest the attack on the president is this president didn't. Have Two hundred thousand Americans die because he failed. Two hundred thousand Americans tragically died despite the most aggressive action we've seen action that was vastly stronger than anything that Biden did when he was the vice president.

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The Hidden Cost of the Perfect Selfie

Overheard at National Geographic

25:21 min | 1 year ago

The Hidden Cost of the Perfect Selfie

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In last year she spent a month in Thailand reporting a cover story for the magazine on Wildlife Tourism Silas at a captive tiger this episode of overheard sponsored by animals on AIRBNB experiences discover a new way to meet animals attache daily is a writer often was having a good time to there's this idea that I found as I as I talk to tourists over and over again that this experience would most we admire more on that after the break now there's a new way to meet were smiling this is that a I'm not sure where but I think probably a zoo in the Toronto area where I'm from created with world animal protection checkout AIRBNB DOT com slash animals to learn more long before Natasha reported on Wildlife Life photographer in the wilderness there are over one thousand experiences with creatures of all shapes and sizes and each one follows animal welfare guidelines he just stormed off he was really upset the Tasha's says when she saw this something clicked I remember looking I'm thinking like he kinda camel's with AIRBNB experiences paddleboard with a friendly corgi named Mr Beaches who loves being on the water or search for Arctic foxes with a wild tourism she engaged in it you know how when you're remembering something from your pass you're not sure if you're remembering a photo you've seen or you're actually remembering the thing reacting in what seems like a really logical way to being in a cage with a massive tiger I mean in this saint him over and over you know go in go in don't be so afraid it's going to be fine it's going to be fine I mean sure it's tiger saying okay you don't have to do it that's fine his mom forced him to do it and then said it'll be worth it for the photos and he came out and he wouldn't even liquor in the eye I'm Peter Gwen and this is overheard at national geographic a show where we eavesdrop on the wild conversations we have in that Gio ah on the back of a giant elephant obviously I don't remember this I think I was probably three and a half but I I'm having a great time and we're all that's not even something that I think anyone wants to entertain the possibility of no way we WanNa make memories on vacation do things we can't do it home maybe snap a picture from a distance it also includes getting closer snuggling baby tiger cub posing a large adult male tiger riding elephants ashes got that and she showed me the photo okay so you definitely you're having a ball here you've got the big kids smile like the wicked me instance it sounds totally crazy but then again for some people could be a bucket list like skydiving not know if I had the opportunity to get up close you view as special and exhilarating and fun is also fun for the Animal No one wants to think that what they're doing on vacation is helping to hurt an animal we'll make the best holiday card ever or just experienced nature. Natasha says wildlife tourism ticks all these boxes wow they've toured some are drugged so make them docile enough to interacts these are predators they are wild animals that can kill you instantly but I mean tiger wood I pass it by it really makes you think step back and look at it like why are we so comfortable with yourselves next to these predators showed that it was his explosive shift towards not just wanting to see animals but wanting to show yourself having this exotic once in a lifetime encounter going on a boat and whale-watching off Cape Cod to going on safari in South Africa to look at you know wildlife in the Savannah so observing animals took age the boy didn't WanNa do it but he eventually did because his mom sort of made him and he stood there the whole time terrified sobbing and what really struck me as that instead of in their natural habitats sounds totally cool I mean I love whale-watching but attaches says there's a side to wildlife tours and it goes beyond observing has a normal natural reaction to this I feel like I'd be really afraid to it so it's it's strange that that was the only time I saw someone Watching bears performing a circus bears elephants and tigers hidden they're wild animals we're not supposed to be close to them so step test media affects our daily lives and she says that are online profiles are less like photo albums and more like declarations of identity are opportunity and follow them to the edges of our big weird beautiful world this week how silviculture has helped create an industry that might not be so great for the answer Acre this is an industry that spans the globe there is no country on earth that I am aware of where it doesn't exist at all and we then that can make you look a certain way that can be really attractive in social media provides that in an instant we get this immediate social I get concerned that in certain situations people start to see animals more as props than as living beans earn moguls studies how social like an endorsement not just of what we posted but of who we are as people attaches says those wild sophie's have helped create a major money the show off the best versions of ourselves especially when we travel we want to portray ourselves as adventurous spontaneous exciting people in Aaron Says Award so when we post something if we step away just for a few minutes we might come back to a bunch of likes and comments on the posts from other people and that feels to be taken to make it possible for us to interact with them I mean how else would it be possible for a boy to get into a cage with a tiger many tigers have their claws removed I'm guilty of it a few years ago I was running on a beach in Delaware and there were these people raising money for a kangaroo rescue operation at least that's what they told me in itself as a neutral term it can run the gamut from taking but oculus out into you know National Park and looking for birds too defined as domestic livestock so the same as donkeys or cattle they've been tamed for thousands of years in Thailand and used to do sided to focus on a few hot spots around the world's where our understanding was that this industry was very deeply embedded in the fabric of the local economy and the tours lucrative breeding industry of baby elephants and I think that comes from the fact that tourists increasingly want to interact with babies in that new form of enterprise it had a number of things going for it so not only is it an improvement over keeping elephants in Bangkok and so they're willing to pay money for it so the government subsidizes captive elven breeding after all tourism accounts for about a fifth of Thailand's gross domestic a recent study by world animal protection found that there was a nearly three hundred percent increase in the number of animals selfish popping up on instagram feeds in the last few years so that ministry one of those Hot Spas Thailand there are thirty eight hundred captive elephants in Thailand the vast majority of those elephants are in the tourism and wildlife tourism helps us do that if you go to an exotic place and you get a picture with an exotic animal that most of your friends probably haven't had the opportunity to see and to do begging on the streets you now have brought them into a situation that is you know many would say it's it's an improvement for their lifestyle what is a huge moneymaker for the industry and for the consider begging in the streets in Bangkok back to the rural countryside and the way to do that was to establish a new form of enterprise the sound pretty breathtaking like the province of Chiang Mai there's a lot of greenery just the nature of these camps and chain my which is a mountainous leafy healthy with elephants misery also ride on the elephants in the elvan performed reaction was of course was to pull out my phone and start taking pictures right I mean that's what we do these days social media encourages it but it turns out there's another side of the story it is not just the task on the back of the elephant she sitting up there with her mom and brother they all look really happy and attaches says at the time they probably assumed tricks and shows typical tricks will be Running around plane harmonica bouncing basketball and shooting the net throwing darts in the parking lot because many of the visitors going to these camps are going there through tour agencies a lot of the camps are located in areas product. The TASHA's says you get a sense of just how popular these attractions are the very moment you arrive in an elephant camp the first thing you'll probably notice that there are tons of buses into facilities and owners were begging and it was I think there's not a single person who would say that that situation was ideal for anyone involved so the Thai government stepped in and that's where to win the tourism industry emerged and the government had sort of initiative called Brenner elephants home and that was the objective to get some of these old beautiful verdant part of the country sounds like a great place for an elephant witnesses the elephants roaming free in this lush landscape hi government ultimately the elephant tourism industry took off and suddenly there was demand for moral it's you do have this very logging to do various work with humans for a really long time but in nineteen eighty nine the government banned logging on millions of acres of land which me story this isn't necessarily new Thailand has a long history with elephants they're deeply woven into the culture and they've also been an important part of the economy elephants in Thailand elephants they can always treat them how they want because they often don't own the case where they work when you're in a camp lake environment where you're employed by the at least not the captive audience they're usually kept in stables Paul elephants are pretty much always chains it's easiest way to kind of control and corral the head this baby kangaroo with them in Delaware and I thought okay I gotta go get my kids they have to see this to and it's my girls crowded around these cute little kangaroos my first from places Oliver passes the elephants do this all day long I think the key thing I noticed was the monotony and I think like the we had worked with elephants he spent hours talking with me about how his life had changed from when he was a little boy his father was a hoot to now so when he was a kid it wasn't the case that he didn't have to Lisa's elephant to a camp down south to make money but that's the reality of making money in the industry but there are some Asian elephants are social animals they Rome with their families in the wild but in captivity their closest relationship is often with their human they're gonNA do Natasha talked with dozens of moods and she says one conversation really stuck with her the man who was in his thirties in his whole family camp owner You may not have a choice of Elven doesn't want to do something you may have to force an elephant to do it anyway. Natasha that she saw this happen a lot sometimes really kind of big move that was popular tourists that you'll sit between elephants will across their trunks and then you'll sit on the trunks and the two elephants the elephants in their keepers were out of work and it's not easy to feed and House a hungry unemployed elephant so ultimately what you found that many elephants than their owners think for a photo right it turns out our appetite for sharing our animal encounters has gone through the roof awesome animal like an elephant so usually chains around the ankle and it's tied to a pole in the stock in some caves tours come through elephants were brought out for photos city of Chiang Mai Chiang Chill there are no elephants lifting people with their trunks for photos or throwing darts supra corn says the reasons for not having those has to be highly knowledgeable in order to keep the audience the sister engaged strenuous says they also teach moods how to train elephants through positive rian to be between you says transitioning elephant camps isn't an easy job the most chilling old animal protection provides Chang chill with financial and technical support they've helped build the physical infrastructure that makes it possible for tourists to observe elephants they also trained tricks when you see one the first year like kind of like wow but then when you start to watch more and more shows you see that the tricks are actually pretty repeated throughout all the shows and many horseman at Chiang Chill the mood still carry books but she says they only used them in case of emergency if you don't want them to go that way they can just Israel he says that if Chiang chills transitioned is successful though consider eliminating the hands on elephant experiences from his family's other camps if an elephant doesn't want to do something them who won't force it too but you know in other cases who would whack it with Hook and so then elephant would kind of do we I you open there and then you get your photo taken an often it's pandemonium often you have one tour group has just arrived at fifty people in their all clamoring to get that perfect being part for me is basically working with business people and trying to steer them in the direction convenient super coin says it's a win win situation it's good for the elephants the tourists and his business I mean it's really the elephant camps because it's a business even the owner of Chiang Chill Superintendent Seth told me that his family owns to other camps and they're pretty convinced a plotnik teaches at Hunter College in New York he studied animal cognition and he spent years working in Thailand with Asian elephants. I wish all elephants could be free but don't WanNa keep my elephant on a chain that's a meter and a half long but they're so little space like it's it's the only option the mood also said he had to feed his family he said he really wished trying to shame them it will only encourage them to say you know what if this is how you think we're not going to work with Westerners anymore we're going to target tourists that care less about welfare and we can't take all of these captive elephants and release them into the wild so we have to find some sort of solution for these animals and in many cases it does seem that tourism works yeah if it's successful in the sense that is profitable and sustainable then we can truly showcase Chaozhou oh helps keep the animals fed and cared for in fact Joshua worries that some of this elephant activism could backfire especially if Tai camp owners feel like foreigners caretaker the minute talks many MMA hoots who said I don't see them as an elephant or a pet is part of my family but even when the moods only instead he says incremental change is a better starting place look if you keep an elephant on a very short chain this isn't high-quality welfare so let's Joshua's says he's deeply concerned about the welfare of elephants but he also worries about the camp owners who could lose the income that helps support their families that money also increase the length of this chain let's allow the elephant to move a little bit more freely to interact more socially with other elephants in your camper your facility Sion's simple been gone off soaking the Omega he believed there was enough demand from tourists to provide a different kind of experience at a dartboard demoing different ways to lift logs like almost Paolino Myers to the logging industry of your and the and guides to answer questions and tell stories we observation holy activity it's basically the key storyteller so the Guy Steve Elephant working group their aim is to make sure basic needs are met let's make sure these elephants have adequate food let's make sure these elephants have adequate water let's make Profitable and Sustainable Alpha Nfl Boston's modell in order to con wins out of Elephant Cam to follow suit that will unfortunately hurt the elephants much more than it will hurt the people that are taking care of them Josh with thinks completely eliminating the more hands on experiences that's just not realistic for now there's still plenty of tourists interested in getting their photos taken with elephants and seeing them do tricks now the issue is I think much more complicated than people think Josh tailed elephant to to back off to stop doing it but if she still doesn't respond to that then water skied them food to them to go where we want Joshua's says that if the elephant tourism industry is going to change it's going to take input from all the key stakeholders MMA hoots veterinarians some Instead of using the hook freely to to scare to punish an elephant use the tools very sparingly Joshua worked with the organization Asian capt freely or to interact with other elephants or give them enrichment enrichment like toys or puzzle boxes that hide their food this is the way of trying to exercise our superintendent says says his family has been in business for more than three years when they own Chang chill an elephant camp that's about an hour and a half west they had huimer land in the area that able to kind of take the elephants down let them like hang out in the forest for the day bring them back they didn't have to keep

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Ducati Performance TriOptions Cup - Oulton Park 2020 Race 2

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We were saying south of the border boss just checking these down here because she was with John on the rightful row, the grid he said that he was having an issue with his visor on the grid. So he went off to the the wall of a little bit slow. So the officials met him stop from the back, but he has some sort of issue with the visors Joe mcguiness safe sounds spread. Even wrote tear out. Gordy making. Offerings. Interesting speed right law, and then I can buy on your continental number three. Did Rice speed right from ten, ninety, three, twenty, fifteen, and just due to the growth. Britain's no myself. into another competitor as he rejoined the track warning huge. Pinson, as he The branching does own whole lot corner becomes the number seventy fine of any at just seventeen years of age and going through that head cleanup, which is George Stage or stay with five race victories on two second places to his credit company to create I'm the one leave on. Shoebridge went through four. 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This spot with four into US trying to suicide immediately and onto the podium in the second race has sport are owned by the age performance group. Now, the Actually Hall Force Group, it also gets his personal sponsor, which is signature means fooling behind and. As, the thirty two year old from Tunis he'll pick up a victory loss year, Kinda. Park. It's an strengthen the Dukakis here but that was on the the now doubted did not find. This is the transition year they. Going nine, five, five, I'm the Pentagon his device locks on each other if you if you would hear during just forgot to look for the single inside is swinging. Then is to be tune that's the easiest way to spot. But. We don't have specked on y'all much lamented Jensen's seem strange guy the window just see just the gross bank in front of. was going by the old club dies all those years ago the depths of winter new when there was nobody to speak. Around the world on the World Wide Web. It's GonNa Throughout you apologize we can't take messages as we can. Normally we do are you send a tweet or a texting messages and metaphors? We are allies in students that's not a possible this weekend but we'll be back on running normal when we get to, we're to park in a couple of weeks. Time just goes through then Hadad, you leader at Albany by point one, seven or second stay woman at forty point seven, nine, six, forty, point, seven, nine, six, which is fine. He started at some point yesterday but a forty point six, three, two yesterday did. Not. Actually is held by Joe Kolya said back in seventeen twenty, seventeen at one, forty, point two, eight, three. No breaking records I still bussing earnestly for these chumps points. Twenty. One. One your stay from the settlement. Five. On The two newcomers being the opinion and Eddie pest forty is all pro eddie best is not touching any part in proceedings. Eddie Bass team managed to break a bone in his forte it any best. 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Judy went to win both of the raises and Josh is well on his right now to making this. Guy Not doing and that was leaving God. Went on his way to adding more points to his jumper bleed. Should be on their way between druids and. Launch Corn, choose the corner, which is to fifteen out the final corner, which is ten sixteen logical. The producer catching A. Retiree on scrap evolving I'm calling from thirty one on the number seventeen Stevens. Subscribe radius arising out there on the second bid. For This than six places seventeen out thirty one josh Levi Pinson shoebridge go through caucuses now gone ahead of Stevens. That's one. SOx have costumes and stuff is seventeen. Need them dust and sixty four, fourteen content John McGuinness from the back up to fourth position. Sorry. Up Two tenths. Before then behind him, the number eight, thousand, nine, all Davy Jones. Davy Jones of no relation is Balk Jones Number Ninety, two Mike Jones from that real. They help Anthony Brothers debuted. Coming from real in northwestern to them. But where the need is. Already on their way down toward the his chicane with three laps decreasing Toco. This isn't this isn't elaborate of the. Ten lampe and if I were to finish at the moment, that would be your state wanted ninety boys leave and I wanted fifty four boys that would be a thirty six point and founded the Josh will be taking on to the races after donning eyebrows edge it all out. Whether. It would be just a maximum of fifty points up for grabs right much as we saw. Earlier on. Sports teeth are they leave on? GonNa actually pick the big points up because he's Shank. All the plumbing supplies Reina. Leave right. I was one second when they commit the last. Point second he's really. Concentrated. This one is the number thirty, seven, Rhonda leave. And he is now famous packing contingent to do what he did. Yesterday is to the rice, victory. And the Pinson go through with the Elliott to know how to win this year and he's a second a couple of. Three rites of I always wanted on his back Saudi crunched is. The world's leading the rice he was in a ceremony tumbled. Down by team any best in rights over two, and then of course, you and vote instant with Levi die yesterday's are at least he's looking to finish a rice. I'm fixing points off is any to get back to business as usual. Stay with the DEICING duo here. Georgia does it. Leave on walls it what who will get it on one in. Tennessee that one. Heavy of his jar leave. Very experienced riders to quality axe. Jorgen. Wants these trump's or to do some not before that is to win the championship here I'm just going like to make it to on the parents that would be every incentive for him to come back and twenty twenty one to go for the three titles back to back. But they are alongside each other coming into much going full. Time false sloppy by one forty, point zero, eight, three, one, forty, point zero. You're. Not going to be rewritten. Joe. Record is not confined to instant because Dr where's the new laverick on hold of an so nas fishing thinking in the lead in the rice josh stay has responded into the long slap they go. They went to seven by just a quarter of a second I. CAST guys one Josh. Foam fifty-seven, leave I. I. Think. I zebulon. Now surely to that, now he realized that you can't get through that, but he is asking the questions now, all your stay into wall shut off all the final time. A lap ago they head back now toward homes through owns heading up toward the back. Right then into the turning left. Kamal 'cause I got to contend with you. Know about all Hausa didn't was unable to continue with because he's been nuts to anything by Josh, tie as they went through that Josh was on his rising line they just of course, his barriers and the Josh mostly Just goes on that. As you kind says it's going to be leave together win because Josh Taika. About it would be paying laws, leave are going to win is just got to keep it on the on the loss to corners not leave our diet, get a double poems and full Bosa plumbing supplies now, and not would be great delight to his sponsor down there the. Show as a poor Obama bogged down their. House teams has gone down on the laws numbers. Well, that would be the number seventeen Stevens. There's going on the laws lab. comes. Leave up. Jay that will be please the boss of Birmingham surprised by green and body. They would be delighted as Viva Double Poor Levi die and Josh Josh's got on a pitch on tiny on the last night. When you came across about mall, possibly the poet didn't want to and that was into war the tight ride all the all Britain's and the Paul Ryan that was in front of him I think Waugh's. thinking my while being on the booth. and. That's something. Got Nudge stand. 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#9 -Love Stories With Chidubem

Hanging With The Homies

1:16:40 hr | 3 months ago

#9 -Love Stories With Chidubem

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#35 Confinement pour les coureurs, les conseils d'un psychologue sportif

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#021  Jak by dobrym czowiekiem? (Cz.1)

Ze stoickim spokojem

41:22 min | 1 year ago

#021 Jak by dobrym czowiekiem? (Cz.1)

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My Take on the celebrity "Imagine" Video

Correct Opinions with Trey Kennedy

36:19 min | 10 months ago

My Take on the celebrity "Imagine" Video

"Did you know that? The pope once tried to ban racing. Or how an indy driver became the biggest drug dealer in America or the one hundred million dollars worth of marijuana into south Florida. Hi I'm James. Pompey from donut. Me and I'm known sites also from donut media. We're the hosts of the past gas. Podcast where we dive deep into the automotive world's most insane stories like when four tried to Ferrari or when evil knievel brawled with a hells Angel Evil and from the greatest rivalries to simply how a car came to be. We'll cover it all and passed gas so make sure to tune in every Monday for free. Wherever you get your podcasts. Pass Gas podcast. It's about cars. It's not about farts. I promise what's up y'all trading back here with another episode of correct opinions is March twenty fifth. I think I don't know what data we get his men who can relate to that and Bach is still here. Thanks FOR TUNING AND AGAIN. GonNa talk about a little Gal. Gadoe put together quite a celebrity rendition of imagine. We're in touch on. That will some according curiosity and some other randoms crazy stuff is opinions roll music. Welcome back folks. This is episode twenty eight. I believe like I said who showed. No what's happening with anything because we're all at home. It's all good. It's fine it's fine. Would BE WAY. Worse could be worse. I binged tiger king. Over the weekend Net flicks would love. You ought to hit me with any suggestions. Man What we all need some stuff to to binge tiger king. It's because I'm from Oklahoma and I remember that so you don't know this show as `bout a ado who runs an exotic zoo in middle of Nowhere Oklahoma. I grew up not super far from there and I remember. They would bring some baby tigers to like the schools. I remember putting the baby tires. This crazy guy and it turns out this guy. I don't WANNA ruin it. But you know they said the show. That's just like he's investigated. Did he hire someone to murder? This animal rights activist trying to take down his Tiger Zoo. Whoa so it was amazing. It was seven episodes crush debt and it was great. I highly recommend very very bizarre. I don't know how these people raise tigers and lions. I'm scared to kill a cockroach but teach their own everyone's different. I can't really relate to that very well at all We got a lot of stuff popping up on Netflix online. Everything's been kind of fun to dive into some of this and most notably. That happened on a show. Y'All here shortly Gal. Gadoe if you don't know who that is. She's an actress. She's wonder woman right. She gathered a group of her friends. I guess to sink. Imagine by John Lennon John Lennon Not John Legend. Imagine and I guess because assignment to loves her grownups if she thought Hammond I get all my famous rich friends. Dissing it to the masses. And we're going to solve this problem monitor. I thought but just just lessons so she starts. She starts off singing here. We go in. There is no huge No hell below us. Oh okay so that was was so that was Gal gadoe then. Kristen I don't I don't I can't remember these people's names but famous people imagine there's no heaven it's easy if you try. Oh that's I don't I just don't get the thought process. She's like yeah. This all means a lot to me. The lyrics are imagine. There's no heaven it's easy if you try. Imagine I I ripped on this story Latina. Imagine there's no heaven. Imagine that this horrible experience on earth is really. That's at the end of all this. That's about it. Imagine that it's easy with a smile on her face. Hope this cheers. You guys hope this cheers. You guys up. I know probably most of you believe in a peaceful afterlife is here to say in the midst of this tragedy. Imagine that's not true man Scotus guys clearly. Imagine all the people oh That's what's so weird about this video to have all these celebrities some who are clearly singers but like why people go imagine there's no heaven it's easy if you try imagine trees. Yeah Yeah. This is insane video. Who when she when this guy got a text like hey. Could you just seeing this little part? Who thinks to in all seriousness? Go Imagine House trees. How was that fine? Gal will that work for the video? Do less my guy to do fell in. It's not hard to do care for a no religion too I don't remember her name. She's Lenny Kravitz daughter. She's little in front of like a Beautiful Fire. Like it's funny because all these loves you see their background. It's like they're beautiful several story homes or they're like lavish backyard and they're thinking. Imagine no religion hopeless. Choose you up. It's easy to do. Imagine there's no countries you we know there's countries because I'm learning new names of countries because they're infected. Oh what's Movado? I might have made that up. I don't know but they're in trouble. Su I'm not gonNA imagine there's no country imagine Rosie O'Donnell needs to turn down again to pay this picture Gal Sur friends wonder woman texts. Her friends wonder woman. Galloping Team Assemble we need to sing to the masses. Just seeing this little note for me and she. This woman puts this in imagining the long owned like okay. Wow someone's board looking for some tension. Slow a dream so serious. The only people who can like somebody's people can have seen that high dream. You Trim of listening to this. I hope someday told us that was beautiful. Okay thank you garden. Imagine no big you have this beautiful voice here has one Imagine no possessions. Imagine no possessions. I wonder you children of the corn. I wonder if you can imagine no possessions. I wonder if you can. And then Will Ferrell no need for agree. Darren Hunger Brotherhood of Man. They messing with us. Here is a the hulk singing brother who but man no need for greed or hunger man. Imagine a world. There's no need for hunger. That's what imagine no need for hunger while people literally don't have paychecks imagine man Where chill and we've made millions brother of man. Imagine no possessions. That's what's this is. What's there's a widening gap between celebrities? These famous people who live these fantasy lives and real people because they're trying to be on social media and they're like let me relate to these people and they're just so they've so remove themselves from real life they're so out of touch with what actual people. I don't understand you get to that point. Who who's thought would be wise to participate in the of course. I'm not you know I'm sure most listened like we re with you. Everyone on twitter. Everyone was his bashing this. They're like what are these people doing? Imagine no positions while you know a family has no job and they're like how do we eat imagined no hunger? I wonder if you can. I wonder if you can imagine no hunger wonder if you can. That's so me Heen all Zoo Madrid I hope. Someday you'll try As so many of these singers they sound like they're in a vocal lesson and the teachers like okay. Try this after me. You will join us now. You try that celebrity. Join US good shaw now shut up no prettier. Giada up shot up. Albee's back home here and She could do another. Take Gal and so what will be his one. We'll be as one. And then she gets together. She uploads it on her instagram. With thirty something million followers and all the comments are just like what magic no hunger possessions? I wonder if you can. We don't have to imagine most people don't have to imagine Gal and Will Ferrell and Liam Neeson's Ellen. I don't know who was on this. Campus Hold on. Let me take a drink of water. I have one of those water bottles that it's like you suck on a Straw to get it out very masculine. It's hard to look like a tough guy. I was like. Oh really oh you guys thank you know about you. You think you know you've seen about this. Imagine Song You fools and then I and then I just go to my baby. My adult baby bottle. I the correct opinions woman gives birth and toilet paper Aisle Walmart Gimmick the stuff up amid the empty shelves in stores closures. During the corona virus outbreak. A Missouri Walmart had its own commotion going Wednesday. A baby was born in the toilet paper aisle when asked the name she said she named? Charlene after the brand they use to soak up okay. I'm glad I made that part up. Sorry Sharman Ultra. Okay get it. We were like oh my gosh. Is this actually going to happen? Said store manager. Jessica Kinkel Hinkel said the woman warn store Socialists. That our last child came in thirty minutes. Women's water broke in the toilet paper aisle she was prepared. You WanNa Labor if there's an I'll to have your water break. I mean blessing in the skies. And my right. We were like what do we do now? Another later comes around the corner and says I'm a nurse I can help. Oh thank goodness so. The storage grabbed a sheet and tried to block off the isle. She tried to crowd control data and She wants her late. Had A privacy. The Fire Department came The entire process took forty five minutes so she didn't beat her thirty minute record with the first baby. But it's very quick. Actually I have no knowledge of the speed of these things. I've heard it's much longer than so. She's tired process to forty five minutes and the customers were cheering for the woman. The whole time what just the local riffraff outside of the second off. I'll you've got it. Come on come on baby you know. What a nightmare. Put this toilet paper in my ears. Push Push Push. How are they cheering her on? I don't know if I was at Walmart. They're like everyone you need to get out of this area. A woman is having a baby in that. I'll just don't who who's reaction is to be like no way. Okay thanks let me know. Is it crowning it? Is it crowding? Just leave. Let it? They took her out on the Gurney. There were customers of course gathered. She kind of raised her hand. Everyone clapped for a feel good moment. Da Da. She said both the mom and the baby are doing well and they they did get toilet paper. Badgen fighting over toilet paper and a woman having a baby next to you. What does it going on? Seen these videos of people fighting over toilet paper. Why are we when you so many? It's like the things selling out our guns and toilet paper so I guess if worse comes to worse you can go hunting with a clean booty. I don't really understand that but just have a day man and no guns. Because I'm scared of them. You know just what am I if someone if someone else to come after me and like put your hands up. I was like man I just. I don't have it in. Mita really ever overcome the situation. Someone else sent a beautiful thing. This is a facebook page that is formed called Corentin. Kariuki has if you can think of its. I've said this joke before it's GonNa like if If you put up spoiler on a PT cruiser. Just goes you know. It's just too bad things join together. It's like quarantining mizzen really found Karaoke. We don't we don't want to hear that so let's combine the two so I'd like to I Who We got here. Superiors upload videos of them singing. Maybe we should applaud one. That'd be Kinda Fun added Katrina. Who gave away the sounds better? The actual real celebrities. Yeah by banned from this go okay girl damn bad. He's looking in answering single guest today. She's got now. Okay let's go. That's sounds like a rottweiler. I dig it get a little ground there. Okay we got some more. What's What's The sky? Let's see what he's got for us. Jonathan give it to John Way. I never know them until I got this feeling. That is doctor. Tell me what you see was Simon. Calendars within crying is me. That was absolutely horrible. Assaulted impression of some offense too late for me. This guy looks like such a normal. Just Dad died stop hosting the carrots corn Kariuki. He's from Maine. Keep it going Johnny. Just sitting there. He's just sitting there staring ahead during the Guitar Solo. Awkward to pick a minute long. I cannot sky. Is this the Friday Ha? He needs a down a key. Doesn't he for having shadow? John I mean what am I get it? I'm we're all getting driven to craziness. Let's say what Brandon has to say. God bless the USA is the caption. He actually a microphone. Come on Brandon. We need it things go along and I hand stone just who is a Downer Man? Plus USA the chorus the best part about this. He has on the dad knew bounces. And the kind of pants that you can zip off. You know where it's L- that's perfectly this time of year when it's cold morning when the sun comes up a little bit he's Zip among. I don't know where you put them around to me on Liza free. Thank you very inspiring still better than the actual famous celebrity seen so shout to that facebook page Quarantine Kariuki. I might have to pop in there just mad and all that be follow to kill. It might have to go kill it. Horrible lesson smell anyone else. I saw it say that this virus symptoms could be loss of smell. I must have it on my life than anybody else. Is that like a Guy Thing. I feel like I can't smell. I think it's just a guy thing where at some point you're kind of immune to To your own stint which is bad. It's I'm saying it's a negative thing also smells bad so that was A. We have a few Time for the show for a few responses. Thank you sponsors. Let's get to those. 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Just listen to this by Corona Corona at the end of the day. I'm not going to stop me from partying. You know. We've been for Miami Spring break for a while too much playing two three months having a good time. Whatever happens happens Abbas. We plan this this plan for two months. I thought about this recently being in a I'm very fortunate because I still have like this podcast in my house. Thank goodness and I can make make a video You know we had to postpone the joy of the stuff. But I'm still able to do some things to stay busy pay the bills etc and like a lot of people. Have this worry but I was thinking you know. It's still weird like affected me quite a bit and I was thinking of sixteen year old me. I was talking with my friends. I'm twenty seven like this is the first annual lives that's happened that's crazy. Let's not true it's just the nauman actual adult and so I'm like paying attention. You know the awake crisis happened. I was sixteen. I was like Oh. That sounds awful Can I go back to video games now? Like if I was sixteen right now you think of this right now. This is the most negative thing as a whole that I've experienced in my life. It's affecting me right. I'm very fortunate. It's affecting a lot of people way worse thoughts and prayers. But if I was sixteen right now this would be paradise crazy perspective. Does these college kids like do we? What do you want us to do we? We plan this trip six weeks ago. Man In college nothing matters nothing except spring regularly. I this is the only the only thing put effort into like doing is planning this so like sorry. I'm doing it any way and that gets for sure For sure right now I you know. Let's just we all know that the videos on spring break. What is there to do here other than go to the bars or the beach. Closing all of it. It's really mess. They're blowing it way. Out of proportion. Wait to my doing too much. Why are you doing too much sweetie? You need to do less why you doing so much. What are we supposed to do if I'm not on the beach parting seriously grow up? That's like what? Why are you doing? So much sweetie she's GonNa be. She's in a finally get home safely and with no toilet. Paper should be crusty booty. Carley you talk about your spring break nickname youth. That'd be something else. Moss Christy Budi Carly. 'cause you weren't listening you would do as Oma dude out there. Frat boy frank if I get it I get him and whatever happens happens at home with a crusty Budi. That's what happens in any all would hold up till the paper you. It it Pete. Someone's house yesterday. They were pissed. I'm getting can you imagine seeing a house right now? The person would be shot on the spot. I say when I go to the store I'm shocked at how there's a everything else's there acceptable. The paper people really worried about. I mean we're skate like if I don't have food. I die if I have a CRUSTY BOOTY. I can live at soured suck but I have like I could shower or something. Why People Hoarding Hoarding Toilet Paper as paper have a another use? That I'm unaware of. Can you like a magic? Sem something at it. Maybe it was magic. It prompts labor it induces labor. Is that what it does? That's what it seemed like. It does that lady had a baby and forty five minutes. I couldn't even run two miles and forty five minutes. She had a baby because of the shoulder. Meanwhile trump someone's running. I'll while she's having a baby we're gonNA need to a paper this you know this is a a messy situation like sorry. I WANNA do out here having kids fashion than I can run two miles seriously. What my favorite comics neighbor. Gutsy is a joke. How he he like got up to go get a beer from the fridge. When he got back a guy had ran the holding the field for a touchdown that Iran one hundred yards in the time told me to walk eight. How some people out here? Just define the odds. Now that I'm cooped up Katie should let's go run like. Oh Yeah you know what? That's good for this. I'm like fresh air halfway down the street. I'm like let's go back to where we introduce their on. And not this I just so there's this You know these people across the Internet who like jacked like run fifth run or salt tweet. The other day of some eight year old person who runs a miles a day. Eighty okay. I won't be live then. They're running eight miles. I've I can't do that now. I can't do that now. It'd be mentally tough wherever I watched that we watch that and I think you know what it's time for me to flip a switch. I'm going to do it and when you're halfway through writing like I don't care I don't care having babies in time it has made me take walk to biles. It's just funny to this podcast. What do I talk about my? Yeah today the one levels went out so I changed it and that was what I did is what all economist. So I see stuff. It's stuff you see the push up challenge going around Saipan Seton pushups. I challenge you to do ten on her story. Wire the girls. Why the guys shirtless when they do it. A guy is sitting in his this. What he's doing he's sitting in his living room on his goodwill coutts at US holes in it and he gets a tag that says. Hey I challenge you to do ten pushups. He takes off his shirt and sets up. His camera does ten pushups. And you can tell when these guys. They're doing her. They're not just general pushups like Kinda clapping their hands or make sure everyone sees how easy ten are for me. My Gosh. This is like ten pushups. It ten reasons for me to block you dude Chaozhou to push through around see a dog show a dog tag you to show your dog and then people just a video of the dog that they post every day the amount of people on on followed because if they do much dog people. I know personally that I see you on a weekly basis you and follow me man. Oh the how many if you've ever been hit with this. I don't know what. Whoa that's weird. I don't know what happened. Let me call you back. They they vary on purpose on followed. You doesn't happen anymore or I didn't text you back. I didn't my phone. It must not sent the tax. No they don't WanNa talk to you too much dog and that's a- Oregon. Now people are heck. I'm so bored I might get a dog. I'm not going to get a dog like dogs. I just don't I can barely take care of myself. I can barely run two miles to walk a dog and I can you. Just let them out the door. Just come back when you want. Just walk around. My knee hurts too much Dr Ten pushups trying to think of ways to make fun of a mock all these people or then you see some guys who can barely do ten pushups don't you. It's a hard. It's a hard line of basically what my advice don't do push-ups on instance story. Okay we don't need to see the night people joining Tick Tock Tick Tock we're dancing. I think it's very strange when these grown people are doing these like fourteen year olds dances on tectonics but the Internet's going to get weird over the next two weeks. We know it's going to get weird. We know that So I'm here to keep making podcasts. Videos come in middle school matic's episode to dropped yesterday. Hobie joined that will bring. We'll drop those every Tuesday and make more at ease as well Hit Me with anything you want me to roast it correct opinions that trait Kennedy Dot Com. You want me to talk about new videos. Whatever love talking to you all appreciate the love and yeah I just For Real thing about those who this time is like like I said. I'm I'm fortunate. My life is going to be fine on a lot of people who Because of the certain job they have whatever's hitting you super hard so hope this podcast can help you get your mind it or whatever and You know we'll we'll get through baby. This'll be a strange time but Is what it is so like. I made a we before we went on tour. Mail these videos to like have prepared and one was like joking or making fun of driving name. Nobody's driving. Who wants to see the? I guess? We'll wait to post. That tell were driving. Who knows what that will be. Only driving is driven crazy by the people I'm stuck in Corinth but it's fine I'm proud of these. A community event as has announced lockdown. That's good let's do it. Do we gotta do so more podcasts. Coming announcement soon where might offer some bonus content through a thing? I did that awhile back and had to stop because I was busy with Toria and stuff but now I am not so they want to do it again. So stay tuned more INFO and Appreciate Y'all and Yeah Sydney stuff that you find that they make fun of because these podcasts are fun because I can tell you about what I'm doing and this and that but literally doing nothing so keeping a real skewed real so yup sheets. Y'All I'll talk to you next week and it has hit me up on social or on email much love. God bless piece dependent.

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Out Like a Champ

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Out Like a Champ

"Hi, I'm Mike Pasco. We've got a great show for you today, but before we launch into it, here's a word from our first sponsor, support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Google veteran. Mitch Hoyt founded skinny sticks maple syrup and he's showing that small businesses can do big things, Mitch started making syrup from a few trees in his Wisconsin, backyard, and is now connecting with customers worldwide with help from Google tools, skinny sticks is one of the millions of small businesses using Google to grow. Learn how Google is helping businesses in your state at Google dot com slash economic impact. This program may contain explicit language, also, we have a newsletter coming out. It's at slate dot com slash gist. News now, on with the possibly filthy show. June. Third two thousand nineteen from slated to the gist. I'm Mike Pesca. And this. A jeopardy. Spoiler skip ahead four or five minutes if you don't wanna hear about what happened today. James holes, Hauer was poised to pass Ken Jennings for the most jeopardy winnings ever. And if you really want to preserve the drama, if you wanna spoiler warning, fine, I'll give you a spoiler warning. I mean the guy is thirty two straight games. And all of a sudden he's gonna lose in the thirty third fine, fine fine. Spoiler warning coming here are the results he lost James lost. He lost to Emma botch. Her Boettcher don't know. We'll see tonight it had to happen some day, but I want to point out one amazing aspect of how it all went down, so going into final jeopardy Boettcher lead with twenty six thousand six hundred holes Hauer had twenty three thousand four hundred and third place guy at eleven thousand. So if your holes sour what are you going to do your trailing? The first place by thirty two hundred. You figure you gotta bet at least that maybe a dollar more because if you get it, right. Yeah. Pass her and maybe that bigger figuring you maximize your earnings right? If you get a right. She gets it wrong. That's what you do. I'd say ninety nine out of one hundred maybe nine hundred ninety nine out of one thousand people if they were in holes hours position, would bet at least thirty two hundred to catch Boettcher, but holes Howard didn't do that. He didn't think, okay? What if I get this, right? He thought would if she gets this wrong, and that is the right way to think because unless she gets it wrong. He's not gonna win. Anyway. So what he did was. He bet one thousand three hundred ninety nine dollars seems like a weird amount. Right. It's not because that's the amount that he'd still have more money than third-place guy. Even if third-place guide doubled up whole tower short that no matter what happened. If ever Boettcher got it wrong, he would be the winner. And he knew that if Emma bocce. Got it right. There'd be no chance to catch her. There is I should knowledge, mathematically. There is a small chance. She could have bet a tiny amount for some reason. The jeopardy fan dot com did a study of like eight years of jeopardy and found that eighty seven point five percent of the time. The leader bets enough to cover the second place contestant, if they doubled up, but even if Emma Boettcher was in that twelve and a half percent of time she'd have to bet. So little, it's almost crazy to think she'd do it. I literally have never seen anyone who's in first place in final jeopardy. Bet as little as Emma would have had to bet in order to lose, and it happened. Exactly in terms of the wagering exactly, like James figured it would happen that Emma bet a lot more than doubled him in the third place guy. He wound up betting significant amount and holds Hauer by not betting too much put himself. In a position to win it didn't win. He lost because Boettcher got it right. But got it right. He wasn't gonna win no matter what I'm going to say that whole Sauers one thousand three hundred ninety nine dollar waiver which Alex cold out as a modest one for the first time was a stroke of strategic genius. I'm too old to be using the word baller. But I think I'm using correct, Li when I say it was a baller move genius unappreciated genius to be sure didn't win any money. That's all anyone will fixate on. He got it wrong it doesn't matter. And he got only two thousand dollars for second place added to the two million four hundred sixty two thousand two hundred sixteen dollars that he already one. I would say it's all kind of impressive, it's fairly impressive, though, today like me, James holes, our is a guy who's most recent appearance on jeopardy was a loss on jeopardy. But he does have a very, very clever final jeopardy wager to hang his hat on, on the show today. Hey, I feel about bad answers to good questions. Good answers to bad questions and bad answers to questions. Okay. Any questions. But first Maria kinda Cova is here to play are branded and beloved segment. The topic is bike helmets. Oh, yes, they exist. They're not bullshit. The question is should we wear them? How often how much do they help or is that a little overstated? You know bullshit. Finding a job can often feel like a fulltime job at self. Now what if you had your own personal recruiter to find you a better job? What if that recruiter did it in as zippy fashion? You know where I'm going with this. Ziprecruiter's technology can find that job for you. 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And Dr Osma Chowdhry created Medved's technology that can take two-dimensional patient, imaging, whether an MRI or cat scan and convert into three dimensional holographic renderings, this will fundamentally change, how doctors visualized cancer doctor Morley. And Chowdhry thought this technology might just not be possible because computing power just wasn't there, but Verizon five G ultra wideband. We'll give them the ability to do this Verizon five G ultra wideband will help give doctors the ability to fight cancer like never before. When I was a kid days were spent wandering freely through open fields possibly playing in glass. Strewn abandoned lots and biking. Oh, so much, biking, be at a Mongoose or a bike worse than among goose, and one aspect of that, biking, that was always true. Is that the wind would whip through our hair also back, then I add hair now, things are different, the glass, strewn lots have become cleaned up the yards have turned to cold, a sax and the wind blows a little fiercer, but the hair cannot feel it because every kid these days has a bike helmet. And also a lot of adults due to should they is it smart or is that bullshit? Joining us now is Maria of Cova, who is the author of the biggest bluff, and is our is that bullshit experts. Talk about something I've wondered about. And in fact, I've been criticized for doubting for a long time helmets. How vital are they to keep in the noggin intact? Hello, maria. How are you doing? Well, how are you, Mike? Did you wear a helmet to the office today? I didn't I biked in there was a time when I would always bike with a helmet and that time has passed, and I can't say that it's a smart decision to bike without a helmet. There's no real benefit to in. I am blowing the whistle on myself and yet, I wonder if it's quite as dangerous as society would have belief. So let's set a baseline there are laws, the kids have to do it, right. Yes. Yeah. And there are, as far as I know I'm not breaking the law. There are no laws that adults have to wear a helmet in New York. At least in New York. At least, yes, I mean, should there be what are the statistics about how much a helmet protects you? So there are lots and lots of studies on this in the last twenty years, because people have been asking this question for a long time. And so there are few arguments that get put forward a lot one. When you mandate them, you make some people. Oil less likely to bike, and then you make the people who bike take more risks. And then there is the argument that well, even if you wear it, it might not even do that much. And we don't even have good statistics because we don't have good statistics. So those are those are the arguments that I've seen so the statistical argument that we that our data's wrong the most famous study about this was done in two thousand fifteen where this guy who's last name is Zegers. Z E. G R S. I just like saying that. So, so, so, so I'll just I just wrote it down on them like Zegers we have to mention the Zegers study. So he was saying that the effects of helmets are overestimated, because we don't account for distance travelled. And we also don't account for the fact that most crashes aren't captured because most people, you know, they get into a little bike accident than they get right up. Okay. That, that people saying you need a helmet because look at all the statistics we have on these crashes. Exactly a lot of crashes where nothing bad happens. Exactly. The only statistics we have our on the crashes that make it to the hospital. Right. And then there's another argument from the psychology side. So this is a study about how risk seeking we are. And the guy who did the study is called Tim gamble gamble, which was made me, very happy for unknown reasons and Ian Walker. So they did this actually this pretty cool study, where they said it was a study of attracting where you had to, like, look at different things, and they mounted the eye tracking equipment either on a baseball cap, or on a bike helmet and you'd put it on, and then they were actually looking to see how many risks you would take in the simulation if you were wearing a cap, I as a helmet, and they found that people who were wearing helmets took more risks and they didn't even know that they're taking behavior was being statistically significantly more risk. Yes. But this was only eighty participants but. This isn't this isn't a new idea. You know, we picked this particular study 'cause they were looking specifically at helmet. Senate bikes, but in psychology, this is this is a phenomenon known as risk compensation. And by the way, I think we should point out that this was the exact same argument that was made originally against seatbelts, people thought that we shouldn't have mandatory seatbelt laws because they thought that drivers would drive more quickly and take more risks when they had seat belts it ends up that seat belts, save lives. And this argument does not hold any water. So I started looking at what data we do have. So first of all, there's a strong argument on the other side that helmet effectiveness is actually under reported because we simply assume that if someone is wearing a helmet, we counted as wearing a helmet, how ever in order for a helmet to be maximally effective. It can't be damaged and it has to fit correctly and buckle it onto the lot of people like actually see this all the time on the street with kids. And with. Belts. You know, you have them sitting to the side, a little bit, which means it's way too loose, and it's not sitting properly, so it's not actually going to protect you properly. Plus, if you already sustain a single hit the helmet, you need a new helmet helmets are not meant sustain multiple hits. So now let's look at what the statistics actually are. Let's start with New York because we live in New York. So this one was done NYU medical, and they looked at people coming into Bellevue hospital level, one trauma center between February twenty twelve and August twenty fourteen for head injuries. So this is six hundred ninety nine total people came in during that time and two hundred seventy three of them, which is thirty nine percent were wearing helmets and the rest were not. So they looked at a few different things. They tested them on the G, C S, which is the Glasgow coma scale which is kind of a scale of cognitive function, then they looked at whether they were getting cat scans. And then they looked at actual injuries fractures, etc. So they found that first of all on the on the scale people who were wearing helmets, scored an average of fifteen as opposed to eighty seven point six so fifteen is much better than eighty percents. Yes, you don't want to score high on that scale. They got fewer cat scans so forty percent how to have a cat scan versus fifty three for those who weren't wearing helmets. They were less likely to sustain intra. Cranial injury. Six percent versus twenty percent including skull fracture. One percent versus fifteen percent, and they were less likely to have a brain injury. Two point six percent versus ten point six percent. And then four people had to have a craniotomy and three of those died, and all of those were not wearing helmets. So in general taking all of that together, they said that home it'd cyclists were seventy two percent less likely to sustain traumatic brain injury, compared with unhelmeted bicyclists. That's one study. Now we have a twenty. Seventeen collaboration between Seattle Victoria, New South Wales, Australia and the Netherlands. So these are different societies where you have different types of roads, different types of bike us, and the Netherlands, though. I mean bike uses everywhere instead of walking. Yes. And so this had sixty four thousand injured cyclists, and our numbers shade. Yes. So now our numbers are going up significantly, right? Because now we're looking at different societies and different amounts of bike us do you want to say that for this study? I hope they use not the Glasgow coma scale, but maybe the New South Wales. Cova scale, this particular one, they slipped Comber Scott. Yeah. They just looked at head injury. And they, they looked at odds reduction for four different injuries and it was fifty one percent for head injuries sixty-nine percent for serious head injury and sixty five percent for fatal headed. Okay. So bigger sample little less pronounced benefit than the seventy six percent that you cited with Bellevue, but a pronounced benefit. Yes, retirements, your three times more. I'm being very back of the envelope here, but you're three times less likely to have a head injury. I'm just going to take your word for it. Do any mental math right now. So I'm gonna just give you a thumbs up, and there's no support for increased neck injury. So one of the other arguments is that helmets increase neck injury. So they actually also looked at this and said, well, do the helmet whereas actually have Mormon neck injuries, and there was no support for that. And then this is the biggest one that I was able to find this was a twenty eighteen meta-analysis from Norway. So this was quite recent and it looked at one hundred seventy nine different effect. Estimates from fifty five studies between nineteen eighty nine and twenty seventeen. And so this one is an even bigger sample size, and we do see some smaller effects, but also significant effects so head injury and general reduced by forty eight percent by bike helmets serious head injury by sixty percent. Traumatic brain injury by fifty three percent face injury by twenty three percent and the total number of killed or seriously injured cyclists by thirty four percent. They also did not show any different. Acts between adults and children, because this is another argument that maybe they should be mandated for children, but not for adults or vice versa, for whatever reason. So they didn't see any differences between that and they saw larger effects when it was mandatory than when it wasn't mandatory. But they were let's see they were found to have this, this is the one that has drunk, the drunk cyclists. So they actually have larger effects among drugs, cyclists than among sober, cyclists, not wearing if you're gonna if you're going to be drunk wrong bicyclists where definitely we got bigger piece of advice. Probably probably dunk on a cycle. But if you're already going to do it do it in a healthy. How about this? Can we compare drunk helmeted bicyclists Schober non helmeted? Do we have that stat? No. That's dot is not here. I'm sorry, you have to get in touch with them that crunch that I should I absolutely should. And also, and this has been shown in multiple studies. The effects are much LA. When it's a single by crash, as opposed to a collision with a car so basically. And there's another study that was done after this. If you crash head on with a car doesn't matter. If you're wearing a helmet, this actually goes to some other arguments against bike helmets while, and this isn't even against bike helmets, though, people are putting it back on the cars and say, well, we need more bike safety, we need more bike lanes. We need fewer cars, and we need drivers to drive more safely. It has nothing to do with health and what I would say is the data show that. Yeah. All of those things are true that you need that too. But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be wearing bike helmets. But there was one one study that showed that there are and this was in London. So this was in two thousand eighteen in London. So it the study was particularly good because it looked up volume. It looked up volume of bike volume of cars and speed limits and it showed that actually their safety in numbers. So as there are more bikers the injuries actually go down, not up. Because presumably cars are looking more, and Nick when people are being more of being a little bit safer from that side of you. And also, you also be cost just throwing this out there as there are more bikers that means more people of bikes. That means the people behind the wheel might themselves of biked and be cognizant. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then that speed limits do matter that there are fewer serious injuries. When the car speed limit is twenty miles an hour as opposed to thirty miles an hour. And then and then I would also say the other part of it, which has nothing to do with cars, or volume Arnie, thing like this is, as you bike, more and more in different conditions. So even like let's assume that you're biking, in the middle of Cape Cod with no cars around picking Cape Cod because everyone bikes everywhere on Cape Cod. So, so imagine like you're you're doing scenic bike ride, and you think there's no way, I need to wear a helmet and then there's something on the road and you actually just flip because your bike goes over a bowl or. Or something and you fall on your head. Right. So even like that. One is just you. And there are no cars around helmets are probably not about idea. I gotta start wearing one for all the statistical reasons that you put forward. But also, if having gone public with these pretty ignorant retrograde ideas, if I get hurt. So many fewer people will have sympathy. Yeah. It's like this is true. This is true. This is true, and I don't want you don't want you don't want to engage in action where when the bad thing happens the number one thing that people say is served you right. Yeah. I personally from my psychological standpoint, I think that most people don't wear helmets, not because of any of these arguments that they think are true, but because they're just lazy so wearing a helmet demonstrated to prevent injuries. Overall have a in total salubrious effect on the helmet wear. That is not bullshit. And that is the case, even in countries where helmets are mandated. So even even if it's a mandate and ally, and you have to do it. It's still very good. And potentially even better Maria Cova is the author of the biggest bluff, which is it's been forthcoming for a while. But I'm telling you, it's gonna come forth. Thank you so much Maria. Thank you, Mike. Listener. You may have heard via your ear buds car stereo, smart speaker or immersive shower sound system that podcasts are the future. 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Maybe repeatedly called Maxine Waters stupid. Yeah. I don't know if you want to say, look all of those are just shit hole. Examples. Fine. I also like Kushner's. Phrasing, you can't not be a racist. Yes. Cannot be equals can be doesn't not when pressed on one specific cause that the president championed Kushner could not be flummoxed was both resume racist. Look, I wasn't really involved in. I know you what was it racist? Like I said, I, I wasn't involved in that I know you what was it racist? Look, I know who the president is. And I've not seen anything in him. That is racist. So again, I was not involved in that. Did you wish he didn't do that? Like I said, I was not involved in that, that was a long time ago, Christner. No good answer. Because there is no good answer Trump, by the way, disavowed, the idea of birtherism in September of two thousand sixteen. Not that long ago. Kushner was a senior advisor on the campaign. I guess he figures. I'll do the interview as long as I'm mellow, our wand, up, looking better than Stephen Miller, that's the bar to clear. So there is that over on CNN. However, we got a different kind of QNA one. That is equally frustrating, but not a desperate sort of frustration more of a ruing, the road, not taken sort, after the tragic mass shooting in Virginia Beach. Jake tapper had on. Senator Cory Booker, and tapper asked this now ATF says that the two weapons used in the attack were handguns not assault rifles. And they say that they were purchased legally, how would your plan have stopped this tragedy? If at all. Well Jake again, this is a tragedy today. But, you know that every single day in the United States of America in the aggregate, we have mass shootings, go on neighborhoods like mine. I live in inner city, black and Brown community you were there yourself Booker, you may have noticed did not answer the question, not directly, so tapper noticed, and he tried again. We are not helpless. I'm sorry to interrupt you keep saying, we're not helpless. So I'm saying what would have prevented this tragedy? I mean, I think that's one of the issues that people wonder about when there are these horrible tragedies. What steps specifically would have stopped the massacre in Virginia Beach. And you've taken a look at the sixteenth seventeenth things we have in my plan that would drop the levels of violence overall from one handgun a month laws all the way to investing in the kind of mental health in the kind of community and power. Again, Booker does not answer or rather he gives an answer somewhat adjacent to the question. But it seems like an indirect answer because it is an indirect answer. And therefore, a non satisfying, one Booker knows this isn't one of those cases where the murder weapon or the aid to the murder weapon like a bump stock was specifically something that he and gun advocates have been calling on for a while to be banned. Right. It's also not the case. They guns were obtained via a loophole and he's desperately been trying to close the loophole. But that's all right. Because when you give an answer that clearly evades the question people will tune out, and I don't say this just to help Cory booker's political career. I say it to help the cause of preventing gun violence. Here's how I think the answer could have got now ATF says that the two weapons used in the attack were handguns not somebody automatic assault rifles. And they say that they were purchased legally, how would your plan have stopped this tragedy? If at all, you know what Jake, maybe it wouldn't have maybe in a country, awash and guns. And with eleven thousand homicides, a year, some murders are going to happen. Maybe this is one that would have happened. Maybe this is one that wouldn't I guess we can't say you know, if you cut all the gun homicides, and half you still have the other half. Look, thirty-seven thousand people year. Die in car crashes a little over ten thousand of them or because of drunk driving. So do you say, oh, give up on your drunk driving agenda. What uses the drunk driving agenda because drunk driving didn't factor into that crash or that one over there? The third went over there, but beyond that, just that if we can do a lot to prevent gun violence. We should Furthermore, it does seem to me that there's something of a social contagion going on when it comes to mass shooting. Mass shootings have been spiking. They've tripled in the last decade or so. And you know what, maybe if the things I call for every day, and the things that most American people agree with, like, banning the fifteen or those kind of weapons, maybe that was in place, or better background checks, or the licensing requirements. I do propose. Maybe those had been in place. Some of those other shootings, don't happen. And then this shooter doesn't get his head filled with all those violent notions. Who knows? Let's just say that the worst thing that would happen under that scenario. Is that many murder victims would still be alive? Maybe not these, but many murder victims would be living, and that's something to strive for. So I would say an answer like that seems more direct and it seems righteous. And by the way, I don't blame tapper for asking the question I think book could've answered it better, of course, just by answering a question about gun deaths with the general answer, we should have fewer and here are some laws. That's a huge improvement on what the administration is putting forward on meet the press on Sunday. Mick Mulvaney, was there talking about the same incident? I think the president believes very firmly in the second amendment right in our second amendment rights. He also believes that you cannot take these exceptions and clearly people like this are exceptions. This is not the rule ninety nine point nine percent of people in this in this country own a gun are law abiding gun owners and you commit murder, but we have well mic. Chuck Todd did not say there are one hundred million gun owners. So that point one percent. That is a hundred thousand people and yeah, I would say if there are one hundred thousand people who have Mollison their hearts and guns in their hands. It's a bad situation. If you're telling me, well, here's how to think about this mass murder. They're only ninety nine thousand nine hundred or so others who could do it. You're not calming the situation. And by the way, that's very off the cuff dismissal to have the CD generate that ninety nine point nine percent figure, but even so on its face. It is very, very disturbing. And not an answer to the problem about is disturbing as the situation with gun violence in America is disturbing. 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The Money Men - Caulfield racing review

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The Money Men - Caulfield racing review

"Gay Punches welcome to the money. Man Jillian, balanced joined by Bennie Clifton from the trading floor at sports. Bit here is your wake. Yeah, very good, very good good. Wake of rising. Good Mania caulfield onset day in Sectors yeah, there is. We're going to go through caufield Vince alqadi sent through the daily sectionals. The Times for coffey put them into our database yesterday. It came up. As soft seeks according to Roy's are according to this Jewish. We had it as just a bad. A genuine seeks probably close to a genuine seven. In terms of what the Times did, the rial was at twelve made. Sort of soft six I think he could probably say I was probably solve seven. Not much wind to speak of. Henny think attract plied. Because there was a collegiate clear advantage, it was very hard to Mike Grand idea of the latest at an advantage bit was in the strike where I think the most advantage was insult, far line seem to at least have a coupla links on the outside five lines where a lot of horses especially on which coming in to the middle of the trial in May grand, but just couldn't the more I want to talk. We ends around position. Twelve May to annoy made his last time at Caulfield. One I that far. It's a good question. I don't really neither obviously got. Clear issues with pro with the in so I the fact that I don't want to go. There I mean I, don't know. They calendar looks like for coffee. Obviously than you were fair, y y from Spring Soda, but they obviously don't want to go anyway back near the end so I don I might be field so as things like that and I go over top of unity to protect that in so for prolonged period of time. I don't know the Intel on that. And I when we looked at. How information on Riley at twelve days, coins, condition soft seeks off seven immortal said it's pretty even back to get their chance to shoot rices. And then same information came to us from track Walker on the morning of saying that lines wonderful. I've were absolutely don't want. He's going to get mentioned again, but it's the greatest information of and look inside of tidings, not on at the mine. Try Boys around the moment, but we would be giving information to the PUN. Is Once we once? We know it. If you had walked track, or if you had the information, you could play into spices because he has information. Was it was that on spayed in nineteen sidelines? We're going to be a big big invasive. And they were as a shame, because caufield historically is one of the fair attracts on the Melbourne Metropolitan Circa from on would always slightly has an advantage to host his own spayed, but. My feeling is every Australian trekkies. Every trek theoretically should anyway. If you got the ability to use you guys paid early. I. Don't think we should be always catering for horses that. Can't get on space alien then. And we should move onto rice month with do. With to do. I will also say will say just the tip. The for the punt is is that. Do, not ever be worried about wide gates at coffee or think just the fact that you can have just going to be bonus and horses with the board guides, everyone says white guy and immediately guys all. They're going to be stuck why they can't win. On Saturday at side later was just a gone spot on spayed. If there's not much space in the rice and you've gotTA turn of foot. You gotta be winning Rice I. Don't ever get into the negative connotation with days. Roy Barriers. It's a complete me. We're going to a couple of minutes probably lighter, only Patriot punter education in a few more weeks, but there's a few minutes we can start knocking on the reckon with rising. That's probably more relevant in the shoot races in the. Ninety. One been absolutely just that one. You can go into the rhythm. We speak about it a lot you halfway. Okay cracking on rice one. INTERESTED IN IRAN RICE now overall they've gone three quarters of a second slower than rice seven, but that's fair enough as a young horses here, Acosta the stained Tom. Last, four, hundred, twenty, three, six, four, last, two, hundred, twelve, twenty, four, which is just down, the average compared to the die naar real margins Benny. But, so pay wins the rice and he could see there at side later later they. Fought it out. He probably had nine five zero. Hey, to do a little bit of work earlier. This is another one where thought related win a little bit too slow between the six hundred and the four hundred meter marquee win, and he went eleven point eight non so he really slide him up between that little section claimed machine on Tolkien about and took away his advantage lit salt pay to roll up alongside him whilst he was having a break. And if he had of just gone a little bit quicker through that section, salt paper, pay has to work a little bit harder to get there, and maybe takes away a little bit of each finished, but. Overall, the rice are thought they were good days. Set runs in it. Follow too much from the race. I thought Euphoric Sama. The favorite was good enough. It was very very heavily. Three sixty industry. Three for euphoric example was sort of at the back of Maine. Do you forgive it? Because of the way, the track plight that what sort of yours? Kind of big white. And those inside loss was just kept kicking. Sour thought it didn't to not put in the been for next YEP claiming Shane four forty, five, obviously lades run sick, and in the winter so pater was seventy nine dollars fifty wins the rice guide. Eleven spike about it w to bed days buoyed by Wadsworth Caulfield. But Growth Young word about the reis overall. It was below power on Tim's of standards. Something you'd have to pick the. Rice to would have gone fast in this race half a second inside standard. Benny! Last, four, hundred, two, hundred was the worst of the day so twenty, four, three, two and twelve and a half home last four hundred lost two hundred, so the worst of the diving they did. Go at pretty quick. And again well later. I was. Yeah for sure, and this is an early run, then looked onto the public capital of one. These rights weekly you. Hundreds of rice awaken that never happens. The patent of the track as well so. Heavily obviously got to the pilot track as well, but had to work a lot early on. This. Don't WanNa go need. Tentative, but I WANNA. Talk you thought of that. It had a campaign last homework probably didn't come up has ran a K. Hia. What do you think? I think paper more I think it's back I'm slightly concerned the way these track play wages to this rice that I think it's right at very well that it's no India, the Norman Robinson, foam or the coffee, classic form, where it looked like follow up, and then went to the Dabuma semi horses in their first perfectly they go to the Dhabi. It can be the end of them, and then obviously that prep that you spoke of. It was really disappointing. He's come back. He was idea to I dealt with fifty seven. A huge pouring on the market, which is a positive on, and he runs really well in terms of comparative to these rice. Wired about him going forward I think a lot of people go yet. He's negative. Instead may not social. What if the is went on next start because this? This is the thing that's Cape me and he's corner a little bit because the run was okay onset. Obviously, the boss suited a bit when. I campaign when it went to another level, the blinkers went on, and they've still got that upper slave and. If, if I went on Knicks, dot will be little bit. Tempted Oregon and possibly, and it's a good came, and maybe they'll put him on. One hundred percent. Or. Maybe it's not second up. Maybe have to wait for third up when they know it's absolutely zero ripe and feet. We've spoken about that. A lot of China's wind put the blink his own until that horses really fit. We saw it in the first campaign. It absolutely well as it looked sensational when it did it maybe. Maybe wired about the race. They're going forward rate not worried about this race. Thing is good writer second inside Standard Time. Last four, hundred, twenty, three, nine four. Twelve to seeks home, which is okay. But the first six hundred and forty meters they win at one and three quarter sick and quicker than rice, and we know was the slowly run rice. We'll get to, but this. who was mystery short three from three, nail, I love the market support for three dollars nine to three hours forty Lindsay Smith ten from thirty, four, going at twenty, nine and a half percent. There's a lot of factors that probably WANNA play into and they did. It was a good guy in at one. Really well as well. I'm not sure what level these holes can actually get to, but the thing is got guidance five. Is it so professional puts a self raw in the spot. Ralph C comeback from Singapore rotting very well. He's very soft hands, and he just put it to sleep on the latest and obviously. Did a really good job to win in convincing fashion. Fourteen hundred made as probably its limit Oregon. Obviously did run through lawn and. They might be looking to push to a mall, but Oregon State Forty nine hundred maters a win a lot prices, and hopefully markle run with it yet in terms of the market Scorpius. Seven fifteen to five dollars fifty was on the quick backup that from Piedras, which is really good at runs, the Delaware, it goes near for the rest of the prep and split on the grass detain, but it was a homeless pro devoid the why these writers were being run in the patent. A little bit was a big run and I think. She can probably follow these rights with confidence. Just that mystery shot. It's I who starts with us. Just can really rank couldn't really rights. He didn't wear if it was going to get to the next level, I think it's just a whole set. Marches continue to progress might not ever right, but it'll just keep w ing just on splendor on the grass. Just as the day went on the more you look back on that Rice. You think it was a very good again. Yup, Yup, absolutely rice four. They've gone at fast here. They went out six hundred, one second quicker than the next rights. We're GONNA. Talk about rights for twenty, three nine I twelve four home, which is quite poor, but they did go really fast, and again you've got to hold draws gate twelve. She's they've goes on speed again. Don't worry about those gates runs standard time wins the rice, but there's a bid of a gathering of horses behind be clumped beyond our this rice I don't WanNA follow gone for. Maize Rice as can be a little bit wake. And the find a similar rights. I Cutler wakes that you can be competitive with with the winner, but. In general I would want to be with these rice gone entirely great seventy dollars into nine fifty shades in terms of the market is probably the only horse are really what was mentioning and I couldn't really find anything else that I wanted to play with going forward, and that was obviously map related knew absolutely. That's the K. and they're not worried about these. These guys, so don't you say these guys do not be worried about these gates right for the next phase? We're going to talk a bit quarter of a second hand, so it's Dan to very slowly run rice. Heeb any twenty two nine six eleven seeks home, which was the best of the best last four, hundred best lost two hundred in terms of rice. And Felicia were she'd been knocking knocking knocking on the door and now she probably got the right conditions. She was hard feet. And to be honest, she. Absolutely spanked him. Yeah, because. Pretty Brazen ambled up next to it is in song and song at the two hundred or three hundred made a mock, and look like it was going to be wrought in the rice, and she just kept going away from that turn of foot was fantastic, second-quickest last two hundred of the dice suggests is probably a little bit lifting the tank going for this campaign now it has had a few runs these. After a long break, but I can't say any reason. Why can't we next storrow or a couple more of these campaign? Intends the market not expressed seven dollars into four dollars idea. I think that was map related. They thought that hosted Bubbas full with brazen song again a horse at rolls forward ten dollars into seeks and just to sixty eight to two dollars eighty, a huge pot on the winner Felicia, but again gate knowing seats forward wins the rice around that shoots. A really good performance here second. Time for Brazing Song opt four hundred meters. He can be compared even similar rice, and they speedway's very good. We'll be back after the break to take the last full writers at Caulfield and also trash and treasure. Back to the money men we outdoor setting caulfield was twelve maters. Riser says it was ice off six. We think it was probably self seeks closer to a soft seven. Obviously needed to be on spayed those lines, one, two, three, four five. We're a major advantage. Rice seeks. There hasn't made a rice benny going pretty fast here. acorn stand at torn, twenty, three, six, four, hundred, twelve, one, our last, two, hundred, just K. for the dye. Well sort of defied logic a little bit this horse because they weren't winning from the abbots one pretty easily really well. This is the stage of the day. We pretty think you've pretty much nailed the patent. These happens you like. What to do, but Obviously was on the backup police fitness a few horses that we resume, but. You say alone luck. Probably the thrill made a mock the horse to be on. The host on the inside were really struggling to. Finish off the rice was. This hasn't made a rice and I. Don't Know How many times we say combat. And made a horse. All four wins abandoned affairs and made his. And the Mike wanted to be a little bit of a go at it. Twenty seven dollars into nineteen dollars Ms. Cats are worried about who and here four dollars to five dollars fifty so marketing wannabe with the Finnish north. Acumen the other one coming down from Sydney with some really big writings, four fifty to five dollars finishes seeks the marketed won't won't pass seven dollars, fifty four fifty finishes fourth, and I think going out of the rice. That's a Horse I. WanNa Bite bookie. His willmore PASOS first stop off one hundred and fifty four is. It's not as and made a horse got some really good writings to. It's nine twelve. Hundred made is our can even probably second up nail. I want to play with that. Horse Oregon. It's going to be was in no I. Think it'll be winning the fact that mark with I. In good stead for the campaign, just to touch on that theory made a horse into affairs made a rice. There are reasons why that happens. Because they stay has made a rice as a run at a completely different tempo to what eleven hundred and twelve hundred mater Rice's I and I get a similar pool of whole says, but designed the certain amount of horses actually handle that pressure of the theaters and made a rice. Isn't it suits racing? More than what it does the others. With you will pass the horse to follow, Miss Catherine I. Do not know what to do with the. Concerning now, isn't it on? kyw And we sort of. Shifted in the market a little bit, but wasn't noticeable, wasn't consuming in as I, said Reynaud, fashion rice probably knocked up and now I say these performance and I go. Drop it in class, take on more while probably newly hard to place near because she. One, that toy tries I prep so nasty becomes a really tricky commodity to putting the wrought rices. And rejoice very smart in terms of pricing horses. What happens work? Cut Out a little bit with here at the Moment Oregon. Just one more horse before we move on proper rogue was held up in the street ran well, probably the quick line, but there's a couple like that. There was another one in rice to that I didn't mention them now. Sign it, which had no luck whatsoever. DSP care for those horses that was theoretically a bit of a travel light or a long day. So there's GonNa be some horses that will look like though around tasted intruder one the rice. They might have won the rice if they get the split. Just be with them going forward. I think are just see Perot probably to be more improvement in. Saying, it does it differently now a growth that proper. Thinks. Showed that. Rice seven. He Benny solely run rice. Point two of a second, so I'd stained toy. Twenty, three three to twelve one home, which is pretty good, but dominated by a horse that. He's going really well and I've spoken about this a little bit before. In terms of if you might have a really good homeless, but if you don't place your horse very well. It sometimes adds up to nothing. Laurie is done with these horses bearing nothing short of sensational in the tombs of Egypt through those. Sixty, four hundred seventy S A couple of packing him then he went to Flemington still in a benchmark rice up the strike he won again and then again he's not going I'm going to win two races now I'm GonNa taking open handicap, and then all of us, you can bust your horse so well placed. He's a horse plenty of ability. But he's also been so well. Pass that he's just. Telling us why it's the comparison you can drawers fantasia. Last week he skipped about three or four grades. He's writing. He's Rod up in Alan Hayes missed opportunity to work his way through the grades. Are we also from doesn't NATO because he he is legitimately. Not GonNa say star, but he's he's a horse. It's GonNa win plenty of rice. Zeta White, but there's plenty of horses. Say Ego, hang on! You've WANNA rice packing them or wherever? And they were going into town, and it's dislike. You could be working. Raisins for I'm not. Privy to the case. But that is a great. Learning I. Think for trainees out there and for people that look at horses and guy. You can just work your way through and win plenty of money and nine. Or three run home. You can decide to go put your fate in the date water. Let's. Work on that comparison four over find page I know the different age groups, mainly both emerging sprinters. We think in front pages panel the head of the souls, or I think so. I think front pages very very very good I think Alpha. But. On writings and stuff say there's probably two and a half between. Artistique, maybe a bright L. FOR ORO. He's done a fantastic. Get often injury. He could come back. Even better I'm not completely right right now. Thirty, you know he's got a couple of good races eating on. He's a beauty. He's an absolute beauty worth noting same image eight fifteen to four dollars fifty heavily supported supported again to starts ago with Dan. It was off the map and ended up starting of fiber. It's a horse. It goes forward to understand why the pros want to with it, but it's got a big number. I think one diabate night to strips strip. The the is still going well. He's going to run that figure again one night and he gets a raw conditions. Yes, he had displayed the rice shape. Theoretically you need fiber. Hit and Miss Vermillion, this describes. The horse on mention SANSOM had two runs back Neil probably got to twelve hundred meters and ready to win. He gets. He's Guy Twelve hundred meters now. They should be right for him. Some. Rice site near very slowly, run rice. He Benny three quarters of a second outside, Standard Thome, twenty-three, five to four, hundred, twelve, one, four, last, two, hundred, only fair when you going that slightly on neither I have a two thousand Mehta's. But? I suppose this talking point really here. Resolve of us, isn't it? Whilst the replays Letaba views just that last hundred made is unknown. pull up line, but the fact that sell some came back to Beta on the lawn was very wiring and. He was talking. About these holes before the rights, obviously, that is very ambitious, and he has avoided the evil so far. He might just be grip three-horse, which is no which is? Still a decent horse, but everyone expects it to be a little bit better than that. Yeah, it was look he. That race set up perfectly for him. I thought price that he'd had that month off news to wake seen. Would've loved Johnny Ellen Tomorrow. We keep pushing forward like he's not no I thought. This was the last run for the prep. Go Forward Mike. Dame Chaozhou pulled up lime and it looked like that last hundred meters. He looked. Poor so obviously has clearly got an issue so hopefully many Williams can. Everything's Xikai with him, but yeah, it was wearing his. Five attitude team wasn't an awful drapes. There was no issue with that. Miramar was fifteen dollars into eleven dollars fifty two days after coming back from the World Cup. W. Entertain. Still think he's GonNa. Run off putting the Treasury. Still think he's gone or what needs to on the road. and. Silla just are. Just, a little bit there just wasn't great for me. W take. Done what to make of the rise to be honest with a couple of data files, just a question for you. If the tempo, the tempo is very slow, if it is a fast team of us, running towards. I Don I because I don't know how much of the she she was. Clearly run faster. He would Mardi Gras Bayton. He would have been in the back of the telly because he's lost. Hundred was putrid. Look, say in. Obviously there was an issue, but. I just want a lot of Sandy, maybe one. That's price. Just Johnny. Go you know what I'm taking only. Would've at anyway. He's going to be under the odds all the time he's. He's a horse at the phones. Every time I think we spoke about better. I think he's had knowing ten starts now in Australia, and it hasn't started any be than photos forty four ID so lousy and will always love him. He's obviously had some issues and go to get the horse ride. If they want to chase the big boys, 'cause. You can't go in with half ribs. It just doesn't work the good opportunity for pundits to bid Iran him. As a whole. It's going to be sure absolutely. Loss Rice of the again slowly run rice. He Benny half a second, so I'd stained toy. twenty-three to home eleven, which is very good gives us hope this rights a little bit of hope Morrissey. To starts ago, it was a forty two days ran second to actual foster on rice and narrow was unflattering. He had a perfect profile going into these rice and he ran right up to it. And like this horse has always shown a bit of promise, but it takes a couple of seasons to work at exactly what he's going to be coming. He's a four year old and he's mature. He's a four hundred medical field. So this is what soon seaman. He's a lot more honest near than any was the last couple of preparations, and if they can find a similar rice in the next cutler wakes can win again now. Did enough, but behind those two enough could follow anything you WANNA raise six dollars into four dollars. Run Second, so again gives hope that the Michael wanted to be with positive signs for that who knows, but. That profile set up really well for Morrissey of its run to runs a guy. We back after the break, trash and treasure. Treasure gets be. We'd because we put one of your own in. Back to the money, man that trash and treasure. What are you putting in the this week? Weightless starting with hob views, he's always going to go around under the odds and authorities very disappointing that lasts under May's unknowingly pull up line, but I'll be bitten Randy Matt next preppy respell. Coffee Right position. Off Exactly what they unlocked checkmate as I do face a tough job, but I think they probably bouncing, trying to get ready for the spring and protecting it a little bit. At the expense of the meeting from all and Jonathan. She's just four off cliff this time marshy. She dollars in thanks Turner. Futile seeks. Know any of the horseshoe. She's paying. What they do with a treasure mark road back from Singapore. He's riding very well, not getting a lot of opportunities. Yep, it Lindsay. Smith spoon throwing Murphy binds, and he's been capitalize beauty, L. Four just keeps answering every challenge and I'll think if you guys spell nail comes back next. Purple Better Holson. He can measure up to stakes company Great Track Walker since actually information. This just comes in nail weekly. It's just brilliant information just to talk to tell us that we have. That truck was going to play and my other Traja. Yeah, it's. It's you. Socks are gone. We talk about socks on throws ago I. Put it in the bean. He told me on Wednesday. You said of mark this. Who was six to four? It'll be winning. I had a look at the Grand Cafe I. Think the graphite put up four dollars or something like that. That was quickly gone all the way down and ends up as paying about two fifty well done. It is. Very good analysis to be out now that one I think it's a good list. Trust in the s pay from the previous. Very good, we'll be back next week and he's Diet Flemington so I. Think got a little bit of Ryan Bab. We know it's a great drawing track. Who say you then, Good Luck bye-bye.

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City Collapse Against Wolves

ESPN FC

36:06 min | 1 year ago

City Collapse Against Wolves

"In welcoming solicitation of ESPN. Dan Thomas John Shaggy his and Stevie Nichols Umana demanded wrong. We'll be with us. In a moment we go to the show in the Premier League wolves taking on at Manchester City. This game pretty much everything. Take me off the show to explain. Exactly what all happened. Edison sent off after just eleven minutes straight red for a challenge outside the box and I go storing puppets units city the downtown on a ten get penalty. In the twenty first minute Var awarding it as Mara as was taken down his penalty saved however evolved order for it to be retaken because coming procurement sterling steps up to take it once again this time it say but he gets on the rebound to make it one nil. Five minutes into the second-half it's too lonely. From Dubrovnik Brian Fine Sterling to double city's advantage but then tomorrow with a lovely finish makes it to once a wolves city hanging on to that lead until the eighty second can minute Benjamin Mendy caught in possession by rory he plays across a Jimenez who would make it to two and then dougherty with a nice finish frasier. Defending by Autism Mandy sees walls beat Manchester City by three goals to to take a look at all that that means in the league. Manchester City remain fourteen points Adrift Liverpool at the top of the table Liverpool with a game in hand wars within touching this and it's now of Chelsea to drift of that fourth spots so much to to talk about so much digest in this game before we get into the Var controversy and all that just for ninety minutes of football and we've got great job no doubt about it but we watch a lot the DROSS. It's brilliant from a neutral point of view. It's what you want everything. Yeah well it was great because the the neutral the right team went down ten men because Eleven v eleven so far generally battle and most teams but because now we get defined. What mindset you to vote? Do they have the we. We know the great players we know they can pass the ball. And the movement's great but did it do. They have got for the fight. Well I would say they've got guys for a fight because those folks for long periods in this game I wasn't quite sure that wolves were going to break them down. No eventually because of pressure and because of some bad defending the end losing three goals but initially I thought after that shaking going after after sterling second goal I thought breath. This could be an incredible victory for city but became defend shortening. Mendis your team mate. Like you've really you've left all your gut sally so you would just tried everything you've been so good to the eighteen firm and that happens. Yeah I mean that is basically era as as you can make a in all honesty as schoolboy as you can make and brightly show. I think a lot of his teammates should be having a hard a harsh would with him. Listen I thought all things in perspective We knew this was going to be a good game with sending off on in particular. WHO The red card? Edison change the dynamic of this game grow having to come off and I thought city puts up a better fight. Then maybe expect against the team as talented as wolves off being said you get yourself to goes up. No it's just about defending that lied about doing the basics but Manchester City. You never change who. They are what they do. Continue to play the ball out of the back at times. Having you have your heart's in your mouth really not sure what what's going to happen and then again just playing into this is what we do regardless ridiculous chance he did and when he did and rightly got punished. I mean we're we're where do you start on. Hold the finish chastising. That Joe's I read a coming earlier. Mendis best position is on twitter yahoo addressing movies. It'd be the joker in the dressing room. And and he's been he's been far from his best form the one that we saw when I could one day lead for example in that grand running in the Champions League beating months itchy on the way and with all the injuries especially the knee injuries. He's never gone back to dot to dot level really. And we've seen again today. Neither going forward defensively. pensively defensively has always been a bit problematic. anyways always been much better going forward but defensively. Tonight's especially it's a really bad one from him. That's talk about Var show because if you don't live in England folly wanted anyone in England you don't quite get how much they hate Var but mark open some nice thing various basically football's version of the speed camera. Nobody likes it but you can't argue with just because it's right to be wrong. It was right. Wasn't it today with everything. Yes but people don't seem to be handled that well. I think I think what people can handle is the fact that the referees make the decision. That's the one thing he most of both the virus premier league the guy in the middle. The referee should be the one making the final decision. Everything is going on around. Them should be there to help him. Not Tell them what to do. And the fact that they don't go due to the screen I think as a huge part of the reason why annoys most people but for the encroachment one. He didn't need to go to the screen. That's that's that's the the new and the problem. Is People tweeting all dental the end. We've council this is horrible for has had a set of laws for quite some time some of them but some of them very basic encouragement. That everybody's been happy when they've been they've been broken. Oh everybody's been happy just to when the when they've been floated it's nothing ecstasy. Well people have always encroach into the box from Pantic's so therefore Varsha overlook that it's is known because referees haven't been able to police it as well as effectively until no is not a reason to complain above are off of are not not to do the same. A ridiculous suggest as much Joe's as a man who lives in England is the ferociousness the anger towards Var more than other countries are. Yeah I think so and I think steady spot on there for me. The the big in the big anger is all about the referee. No able to go and decide by himself. Shouldn't be someone in Stockley Park in the small room In South West London who decides for the Guy who is on that page. What to do what decision to take to do it right? And They Joe's I'd I'd be undesirable up on all that was never a penalty in a million years but von got it right so why oh good words right two minutes. That's too along. Obviously however it works move on the right decision was made but even people don't seem to be that even though it was a penalty. No you're right that's the thing even when when the right decisions they're sick people in England moaning about in learning about the decision that's been taken even if they were right. It's hard to understand that time. I'm a big VR. Fun I think. He's good for the game when he swam executives in England and I think mostly because of Watch watch. TV explains it's not the same mature and and they will get there maybe Is Solitaire has where. There's just never happy when when you change their unusual habits away from the Vaal controversy tons of clean we saw audio forced into couple of decisions. Edison getting sent off many brought. Was it that right in your opinion. Absolutely yeah yeah unless when you when you go ten man you you go four one. I mean that's just what you do. That's the sensible thing thing to do. You still go to defensive lanes thing you just stop the guy from on his own walkways tail off. So far. That's concealed. I think he's absolutely spot on the one thing that I actually no surprises. Probably don't walk. I've been gone. I think city defensive live a liberal. What to do with it was actually what happened with the Edison? Send off when the space behind. Then you're funding Nieto's Anura Mendis. He's I think that's where they've always been vulnerable because of the space and behind the don't read it well and they don't have the legs but actually the two goals they lost at the end were because they couldn't defend in small species. Wish I didn't. I didn't see that before. I know you've got Mandy. Make an absolute uh-huh maciver for for him and edgy goal. And of course you got auto Mandy with the most stupid gamble. All dive in an and so the can't defend the space behind and they can't defend when the Mason Tate and was no space around them Ville food. I mean if he doesn't see that doesn't do something about that and transfer window. Then I'll tell you what's election is what figures for me Steve Tactica and and we keep the most be sick or the food rule of defending when you're playing a high line is you have to get pressure wherever it is on the park because otherwise is any free player this level without any kind of already kind of pressure could just pick a bull over-the-top against anybody I added to that you have Otamendi who there's no pressure the ball. He gets drawn into the playbook who just spins on on as an acre of space in behind that is just basic and for me. I don't know who he appointed finger out here is that don't to Kuna Guerrero Front as I don't Gord Ula on on this side in not making sure that there's pressure on the board. Also just don't always don't it to Jesse back four in anticipating in reading meaning that there's no pressure to both of you have to jump off so for a team who we've waxed lyrical Abo- So long to be making that odd. Basically the era around a system that the played for this time I find amusing despite. All Gab. Says City won't be win title this season lest they won't have a pool of talks June alien abduction all that Malarkey for city now. It's all about the champions. No doubt about that. Joel's kind of hanging now. How on the fat? It's GonNa come back and everything will magically fix itself at the back but that's just one position where you look at the other three defendants. At the moment. There is no reason reason to believe this city team can go even against Ram Madrid in the next round and get a result defensively because they look so vulnerable at the moment there. You're right if you look at the back. Four starting right by Kai Walker. He's all over the place on on the on the on the Joe Thailand the Red card and and there's a chance for example where he covers. He's like ten yards beyond. Everybody is if you if you bring up and and less. Let's say that comes by best level is where we she's not even so one hundred percent fan but let's as buckeyes based. Would you play with him do you. Did you play either the three. I don't think you know we'll be we'll be etc exceptional option. And then I'll let you go mandy who we already discussed with so it's not just LaPorte coming back. You probably need another sense back to come January if you can financially we finished with you probably need another left bike which has been an issue for a long time. And he's Nosey Gencor Fagin del for Benjamin Mendy or whoever has done a good job in that position for July team and you're right defensively even in front of the bike for Rhodri has been very good at time but he's also been Not Good enough defensively. Even if he's learned to tactical I don't think he's good enough games. So there's a big problem there and I think even if they go through against Madrid's is going to keep getting better and better and stronger and stronger position towards the towards the end of this trump is vegan. I'm not sure that would be good enough defensively to go the way. Are we setting the bar. Two high for sitting are we being critical. No set set the bar hyphen themselves. They were so good the inevitably. There's going to be a drop of. Unfortunately you have to. You have to point out where the Florida you know. We're talking about the vilain. And then you're bringing up Broadway and the one thing rotary doesn't do that. Feminine denuded was closed the ball dome better so when you've got the right players in the right place. He's the Edison. Red Cow doesn't happen because offending founding us in the middle. He's closing down properly. No I'm not saying he's being touched a but he's actually gade in where. The opponents got deplete the ball by the way he goes to the bow road. It doesn't do that rotary for me. Looks like he can get round and therefore doesn't do a job really plenty more discussion. Have I what we saw today. I have on extra time as we say you'll trade even always out over on our youtube channel. Bold statement saving money with GEICO is almost better than watching football. Think about it when you're watching the game yelling at the quarterback to throw the ball throw it Williams wide open. Why are you doing misdemeanor? Use that rocket arm. Come on they. Don't listen to you but if you went into a GEICO office and yelled someone please help me save some money on car insurance. Everyone would hop to it except the intern. Because it's his first day he doesn't even have a computer yet. See better switch and save with GEICO. It's almost better than sports. Best performance of the season beating less by four goals in however not. Everyone was impressed. This is what casts Michael City Nick Goalkeeper to say. We were in the game until the referee had to make himself a hero called some warning penalty. The second goal doc Stephen Lease again. You know the fact that there was still in the game. MM nothing to do with anything. Other than Liverpool. Hadn't taken the chances in the game. Nothing to do with. The referee whatsoever was panelty courses. Apparently I mean the problem is unless you're going to criticize a referee. You make sure that that is clear and obvious and everybody else is going for As well because when you start to try and blame a referee and you're on on your own you just look stupid actually comes across as just raspberries and you'll doffed raspberries. They no worries just they laugh. Aw Shane the rest of the says what he did was a party. One hundred percent positive saying the show is completely beaten. This I understand. Not were you beaten but you get embarrassed. I'm that's A. That's a very bitter pill to swallow especially I should when you thought listen to me we win this and all of a sudden there's a Tatler is back on and not Tony. Tyler is but you left looking pretty pretty bad that aside. There's no excusing what you said or his reasons forcing it. It was the one hundred percent you take the beaten and you move move on to try to disguise it with something ridiculous. This I feel beyond cash Michael Beyond City given the club themselves to be able to Austria's Austria's top race however of course will win. It's all about now. Who will finish in the talk for a long sign them ninety nine hundred seventy eight four four points of Chelsea? This is what you're saying. Not that top four chances if we get consistent is not going to go down to the wire because that's we we should. We should get into four without waiting for the last game against Leicester but he might go down to that. Last game against them. Who knows getting consistent is quite a big problem to overcome surely consistent against top clubs in the league and they just beat Newcastle one? Who gifted them three goals? Yeah I mean the church. Trouble is to that point. You've seen a JEKYLL and in Hyde of WHO Manchester United have become good against teams in the top six yet against everybody else. which is the bulk of the League which is a big majority of your points? You been simply door at the same time so she is making the point that I need to be in this job to season because we're still in it so it's a little bit self serving bring in seeing not just playing dross. It's not beyond the realm so that you can finish talk for no. It's not but he's forgetting that. The two of the team's entails scenes pose. A team sport. They can turn to see the same thing. Well if we get consistent then won't go down to the wire we can't listen you you stop talking in hypotheticals I it just it just comes across as an excuse. Meanwhile we of course Macau Tattoo take charge of his first game that one one draw against transformative also currently sitting eleventh. That's in the bottom. Half the frame unique. This is what Terri on re had to say about what he saw. What I'm seeing today is what I've seen for a long time? Not that great and Obama. Yang scored Joel's where he think. I don't think Jerry already so the right game. You probably saw another much before. But not certainly not the game against boomers if he if he said that if he really thinks that this is the same as before he got his completely wrong. Well you could already see artist. Change a few things that was different positions that was Different movement you. So the way the team sets up and the way the two you four bucks paid fighting for the NYS. WHO's an inside right back like headquartered I used to do with these bikes psych up really really high on the page to leave that space for Greenwich especially in the bid? The play you saw lose of different things or ready undoubtedly you didn't see before emory and even under Venga Eighteen months ago so I I really don't whatever already talking about next Game Causes Chelsea. I'm looking forward to this one. I'm sure everybody cares about also soon soon. Want to get the win and Chelsea. Is She going into favorites. Joel's so you thinking yeah. I think he's an interesting one because they've been struggling home especially against a smaller side. We saw against Southampton on boxing there when they lost to West Ham and boom with as well stem for bridge and on the road is very very different. Like we saw against Spurs for example ten days ago so I can see why they were referring to the fact that atom will play would play a lot because that's why are two tot once awesome his players to do nor that will suit Chelsea especially on the council and they would have more space to be dangerous which she's what Lumpar and his team are Gouda and very unlikely unlike sorry when the opposition place quite deep and what organize and the lack of creativity to them down tough ones. A cool isn't it. It is because of Chelsea's owner inconsistencies. VAM being set on being at home dot being said I agree with the book is I think this is. This is again Chaozhou well equipped for as much as things may be changing on. Dial up on being at home to them. Well I just view Chelsea put some of their recent disappointments behind them. I'M GONNA Chelsea as well. Yeah I think we from Warm Joe's is I think spot on for me they'll get more space which means to create the score. Some goals in the Defended and bigger games the season as well so I'm going Chelsea. It's just reminding me. Yeah the other Games that taking place in England over the next couple of days Brighton Bournemouth Newcastle playing host to Atkinson's Saints Against Crystal Palace winner away against Wofford. Norwich Glenn host the Spurs Lester Travel to West Ham and his Burnley Against Manchester. United's it on Sundays. The hostile Chelsea Game Against Wolves Manchester City taking on surprise package. Sheffield United. Really good article over on the website by Simon Cooper took that and the longevity of Lionel Messi Messi Cristiano Renaldo and slats Abraham H. It's being slapped on is made official today that he will be going back to AC Milan on for the rest of the season. Of course he joins a club. That's just had a terrible start. The campaign just twenty one points from their opening eleven matches ashes. Well this is on hand to say about the move on coming back to a club. I hugely respect and to the city of Milan. I love affair together with my teammates. Change the course of the season I will do everything to make it happened. And then he tweeted out this sames Latin lots on different devil as humble as ever sorry different devil. Similan Areva wanted that we have from jacker and see me yesterday on the move they were not sure about it at told. Joel's what's your take on it. I'm not sure why I mean he goes against it. Goes against the the the policy I declared which was before that time to sign a player's Iran twenty between twenty and twenty five years of age. Who Love a good resale value? At some point point that you can improve showcase the talent and then and then set on fire. You signed a thirty eight year old. Show how desperate you are for something happening the season because as as you said when we saw the table cleared nothing very good happening Milan. The season that they needed to strike because Pyongtaek. He's very he's very reply. A. And Rafael is a very good player. Very young and unproven but to go and get a thirty eight Who have played for what two months? Since the end of the a season I think he is a shows you that they really in a bad position and and let's see I mean. He plays to two years between two hundred twenty two hundred forty two goals which is more than anyone else for Milan in in in the last decade which. He's already very bad for that club. So let's see what he can do. But I'm very skeptical elsewhere. Elsewhere many respects the capsules. PODCAST is proved to be hit the report however between the two is always quite interesting. This cool air winless unless thing earlier in the week so I think Ryan Chuck COOTS of if you're first coming from Germany which I think would be coming in the sense that they could use that cash again seven years old. Now I know hundred pages WAIMEA thirty five million five million for Greenwich Shotgun Maybe Abby L. U. Son even twenty five million. Let's say it like it is. We have agreed tons of two billion. I would like to go there. Greenwich agents on the future of the also midfield not come on COINC- angels. You can stay skiing wants to. He's very true. How interesting what? It's an interesting one. I think he I think the move will happen. The two clubs are discussing terms for for the transfer right now. I think they will find an agreement over the transfer fee. Checkout wants to go. Obviously we know this season. We'd been great for him arsenal with the the controversy with the fines and three in the show on the floor and etcetera etcetera. He he wants to go back to. Germany definitely need a holding defensive midfielder so that that fits the problem for the after really likes on. You likes him also. Because his foot which doesn't have many Illinois Midfield position and as we saw against boomer when the star that bid the play chuckle used to drop almost voice in the left back position to toot to bid the player from the back like that. And I think that's what it's hot in mind for as role going forward the season if chuckle leaves leaves we'd have to find another player left-footed play left midfield to play in that position and do that kind of job and obviously there's squad right now able to do. They will have to replace chuck out very very strict profile of someone that can do the job. Well Checker is the only planet who's been linked to a move to Earth a Berlin decide who have labored so far all this season the currently sitting in Twelve Klinsmann of courses come in apparently Joe's they've got money to spend and are willing to spend it in January. Yes they've gone very owner. Who He's ready to splash the cussin' generally even if that means paying paying a bit over the the usual price for some place because because generally is a is a tough month for for transfers as we know that and everybody will know how this just especially sign? It defensive midfield that they've been with a few of them have approached Russia. Few Clubs Chakai also Tuesda Leon and giving money in Marseille as well all all the similar kind of profile. What is where the Chaika? So they clearly in the market for for one defense in maybe to even and I think they'll be ready ready to spend money on those position maybe going forward as well with a winger and striker. So the Kinsman Revolution on the pitch is happening because of improved the the off the pitch. They're getting ready for a very busy. Generally if shocking goes to the lane who could come in to us. We're in room it's on. We have rob yo who hasn't really played that much. Thanks for you. The season coming to London yes probably is an interesting one because what we're sending the head. Football is a huge fine and has been for for a long time even even back in his in his bathroom years and rub you as you said a struggle debate in terrain. To get some time I think to adopt to Syria for bowl or so to to live in Italy. And maybe for rob you and move on loan for example to get some game time could be interesting and like I said before like explain Rhoda artist. I wanted to play team especially when the ball and bill from the back rub. You obviously would be very good in that role as well. left-footed player very is on the board. Very good on the board to start those move from solve left left bucket side so that would make sense in a long way. I think between between arriving all snowed. Bay certainly be the kind of profile doubted that we'll be looking for because there's no doubt chuck out would be replaced If if he was to go to bed it's GonNa be a busy January. 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S13: Halloween: La Llorona

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S13: Halloween: La Llorona

"She wonders the Earth looking for the souls of her children without them cannot get into heaven. She is Li- Yadana. The weeping woman of Mexican folklore. If you enjoyed this episode and WanNa hear more like it. Check out the mythology podcast. Every Tuesday are episodic. Audio drama brings ancient midst to life for the modern audience follow mythology free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. Something to note all myths have many versions and variations. For this episode, we've selected those we fell to the most dramatic and entertaining and supplemented them with additional research into Mexican history are myths may not be the version you're familiar with, but we hope you'll enjoy them a warning. Today's myth contains dramatization and discussions of child abuse, graphic violence, and justice side please exercise caution for all listeners under thirteen. Even. In the rain, the lights of Guadalajara were magical. Arturo was not like the other children whose parents made them fear getting sick at the slightest hint of drizzle. He loved these storms in the gloom building stopped being electrical fixtures and became enormous swarms of firefly's all around him. He leaped from puddle to puddle on his way back from school. The route he took through the city center was a convoluted maze of streets and back alleys, but he knew it by heart. If it weren't for the traffic, he could walk it blindfolded. Arturo jumped into a particularly large puddle delighting as the mirror surface exploded into droplets under his shoes. He went on running toward a nearby alleyway, a shortcut to the tunnel La district where his family lived. A strange sound Richard through the pouring rain causing arturo to slow. In the murky blue shadows a sliver of White Kadar. Tours I. It was a woman disappearing into the alleyway. He saw her for only an instant but something about her was strange while everyone else seemed to become distant shadows in the rain she stood out like a beacon he could hear her weeping as if she was right beside his ears. Followed her into the alleyway. The narrow space was nearly flooded, but the woman didn't seem to care. She was on her knees shoulders shaking with sobs strangely as Arturo drew closer to her it seemed like the sound of her crying receded getting further and further away. He did not know what to say. He had seen his mother cry like this before and she usually requested a hug but he knew better than to hug strangers. Hello Miss. Are You K-? This. I'm sorry I I don't know children are. If you WANNA talk to a policeman, I can fetch one. CanNot help me. Okay I. Hope you feel better. Arturo turn to leave. He could take the long route today he. He didn't WanNa get any closer to this woman the necessary a sharp cry sounded behind him. When he turned back, the woman loomed over him her face hidden by avail. ME. Me Hit him also. Lasantha senior. I can't help you I need to get home. You are home. You are at home with me. You're mistaken your. I live with my Wella. She'll be missing me. Arturo took a step back his foot slid on the wet concrete he teetered, and for a horrible moment, he felt like he was going to fall face I into the filthy water but the strange woman caught him and that turned out to be far far worse. Welcome to mythology apart cast original every Tuesday. We present dramatic stories from ancient mythology and explore their origins. I'm your host and narrator. Vanessa Richardson, you can find all episodes of mythology and all other podcast originals for free on spotify to stream mythology for free on spotify, just open the APP and type mythology in the search bar. Today we're telling the story of Ladawna the weeping woman of Mexican folklore she's a classic banshee figure menacing any child who sees her because of what became of her own children. She can never enter heaven and is doomed to wander the earth seeking redemption that will never come. Coming up, we'll begin the tragedy of lied your Donna. As we've seen many times on this show most the logical characters exist to impart morality tales or stories explaining the way the natural world behaves, but others are more like ghosts, not elemental figures representing the unknown but echoes of the Cruelty Human Beings inflict upon each other larger Donna is such a figure. She's a spirit unique to Mexican folklore whose origins are shrouded in mystery most retailing's can agree on. The broad strokes of her story, but not on the circumstances surrounding it or even when the story began, she said to be the spirit of a beautiful woman named Maria who drowned her children in a jealous rage. When she discovered her husband was seeing another woman her weeping ghost now wanders the world looking for the children she's killed whenever a child encounters her she repeats her original sin and drowns them. The story of Maria is an oral one. So tracing the origin of lodge Oh Donna to a specific telling is or less impossible. Her first appearance in writing came in an eighteen eighty three poem by Manuel Carpio, it goes as follows. By though that, there are. Pale with terror I heard when I was a child I an innocent child that a lawless man killed his wife Rosa Rosalia in my town. And since then in the dark of night, the frightened townsfolk and here it the Moans of the suffering woman moaning as she gives in to her agony for a while her lament. But then a cry breaks out and alone through the streets, she crosses filling all with mortal terror. Then by the river in thick darkness, she leaves crying wrapped in her cloak. Notice this poem contains no references to infanticide only a poor woman who was killed by her husband who sadness sustains her even after her death. This is the thread that unites all versions of larger. Dona deep unquenchable, grief To, uncover the true horrors behind the tale of Lorna we have to go all the way back to the sixteenth century of formative period of Mexican history and like so many transitional periods throughout history the formation of Spanish colonial Mexico was marked by tragedy. The river was always cold marinas hands worked back and forth across the washboard soaking and cleansing the fabric between her fingers. Her children had none and Francisco played up river splashing each other with delight. The cool water delighted them in the scorching, summer sun. Maria looked up the sun was rising higher and higher over the horizon. It was getting late she would need to finish the washing soon. An all too familiar sound carried them from over the ridge a bell tolling. Maria. Resumed her scrubbing with even greater. At nine Francisco Gay off the children responded immediately running over to their mother when they reached her Maria conceal shadow of disappointment in there is they were sad to see their playtime ending. Dry Yourselves we're going back home to get dressed for church member. Do not tell your father I was washing clothes on a Sunday being. The children nodded though Maria could tell they didn't quite understand why she was. So Adamant in truth it didn't make much sense to her either. But rules were rules. She wasn't supposed to be working on the seventh day of the week. So she only worked when absolutely necessary. Together Maria and her sons set off on the footpath back to their home. It was a short walk but the growing heat made the air feel like fire around them. Her children complained constantly prompting a reprimand from their mother. Behave yourselves Ninos the heat is nothing to me and it should be nothing to you either you have the blood of ads land in your veins. But even as she said, these words Maria felt a Pang of guilt. How could she take pride in her heritage when she had forsaken her faith when that very day they were on their way to pray to a God, she did not believe in. Her new home, Sunday they'll Salvador D-, was an outpost of this God a mission built by the Christians who murdered her people and gave her a new name. As carefully as she could Maria said her basket of clothes in a nook beside the door where it would not be spotted. Then she entered her home as casually as she could her husband Vasco, their Sodia was waiting for them inside but something was different about his appearance today instead of wearing his Sunday. Best he was dressed in a rough tunic, a breast plate and helmet lay nearby, freshly polished and waiting for their owner at marinas entrance. Vasco turned a wolf ish grin on his face. Where have you been all this morning? I thought for a moment you take in the children and run away. I've been making sure the children are cleaned for mass more your maiden. It bothered they'll surely be dirty again before you even reach the. Chapel. Don't you mean we has been you will have to go on without me. I've heard word that there is a band of Aztec rebels hiding in the mountains. It is my duty to take my men and crush them before they have kind rally an army. I'm confused. I thought the seventh day was supposed to be a day for prayer. Sometimes. We are called away from prayer to do the Lord's work. Will will you be home for? Supper I may be a week on more I expect we'll spend most of the time chasing them through the wilderness like rabbits perhaps he should take us with you. I could translate for you and we could avoid bloodshed. My sweet. Maria we do not negotiate with savages the ones that are left new. There was a choice between salvation and death they made their choice just as you made yours. These words haunted Maria even as she and her children knelt for mass in their modest chapel. She had married a man. She thought had noble ideals though he came from an entirely different land and their people had been at war. She had been taught that marriage is like hers would help secure peace but more and more she suspected that piece was never the goal for men like, Vasco. He had treated her tenderly at first but she soon realized that this tenderness was not genuine affection. He wanted to be sure he wouldn't break her too soon not until he was sure she was tough enough to see his violent side. These sorts of thoughts kept her from focusing whenever she went to pray their priest a Franciscan friar named Father Garcia administered mass passionately. But she barely heard his words and that was before she saw the boy in the chapel. Her I caught on a shadow behind the altar not much taller than her eldest son. It skin was wrong where there was once smooth flesh. A horrible pattern of crusted bumps made the boy look more like a statue than a person. Maria had seen a condition like this before, but it suffers weren't able to stand up. The infected boy raised a finger to his lips a moment. Later he was gone almost as if he had never been there. When the service was concluded and the rest of the congregation had dispersed Maria of the friar he smiled pleasantly at her approach. What can I do for you? Maria I have a question for you father. I I'm not sure how to ask this. If the wrong person heard me, they could say such things do not worry your words are between you and me alone I will tell no one. I've done my best to be good to my husband but our marriages. Cold what do I do? Is there any saving family? My child and glad you came to me. This is not an unusual problem. You should focus on the parts of your marriage that bring you joy. Can you do that? I. Don't know. What. About your children? My children. If. You have no love for your husband serve him for your children's sake. How can I serve a man? Who has no love for me laughed? How does that? Make me any better than a slave? Do not think of it as servitude but as a calling, you have a duty to your husband just as we have a duty to our heavenly father, you must find happiness in fulfilling that duty. He only happiness I can imagine a life without him. Maria. Think of the advantage your marriage gives you. Your children will not be seen as refugees of Teno Cheat Lan. They will be Christian citizens of Nueva. SPAGNA. They will have a better life. Maria thanked Father Garcia for his advice she appreciated his open heart but new deep within that. He could not understand her situation. He did not know what it was like to see his way of life dwindle before his eyes and to sleep next to a man who participated in the slaughter of her people when night finally fell Maria could not close her eyes. The House seemed strangely. Lifeless without Vasco but it was a kind of emptiness. She liked she didn't need to hide her sorrow from this sort of emptiness a figure stirred in the doorway at first. She thought it was one of her sons and waited for him to arrive in her bed telling her about some bad dream but it lingered at the doorway for only a moment before vanishing back into the outdoors. Maria felt the strangest sensation rising in her chest without any outward sign she knew that it wanted her to follow. Maria rose to her feet and stepped out into the night. The dark was so thick around her she couldn't see anything in front of her and yet she was sure of where this presence was leading her it wanted to show her something. She heard the river only a split second before her feet touched the icy water. She recoiled and looked around straining to see anything in the darkness. Something drifted toward her on the water. It was a figure in white shining with a strange faint glow of its own a voice reached her ears moaning softly in the breeze a chill ran up. Maria spine though she had never heard that voice before she knew it well. The specter that glided down the river was no vision. It was a visitation from. C. Walk Who Waddell, the goddess understood her pain for she too was in mourning not for a single wasted life. But for thousands upon thousands of wasted lives, Maria wanted to run forward and embrace the spirit but she stayed still tears running down her cheeks. Maria awakened by the river. The moon shone high above revealing her to be completely alone by the glistening silver waters. Or not quite alone shadows moved along the horizon but these weren't ghosts they held spears and bows in their hands and wore deeply serious expressions maria stiffened. Once he realized that these were the Aztec rebels her husband had been searching for. They had somehow escaped his army and were camped at the mouth of the river. Coming up Vasco returns home and Maria make so bold attempt to for her freedom now back to the story. lij Donna has been haunting Mexican folklore since the late nineteenth century but experts believe her origin comes from far earlier in history before Mexico was conquered by Spain. It was the home of the Aztec people who we featured in many episodes of this very podcast the asked Tech Goddess See waddle shares, many traits that would become central to the legend of Donna and Omen of war the. So called snake woman has been described as wandering the countryside weeping and wailing to similar Aztec goddesses. liq- and Chaozhou Wheatley have been connected to larger. Rana as well. Charter Whitley, was the goddess of waters who would often send floods to drown unsuspecting subjects. Code Liq- was the mother of the God of war. We'd see low poached Louis. Like see what Waddell, she wonders the world caning in grief in some myths, she even foretold the conquest of Mexico by the Spanish and the crumbling of the great as tech. Empire to this foreign onslaught. So maybe ledge or not doesn't only cry for a pair of drowned children. Perhaps she cries for her countless native children slain during the conquest those whose voices will remain forever silenced by the writers of history. The crossroads was stained red with blood. A gang of armored men made their way through the carnage blades held at the ready at their head was Captain Vasco, this Saudi A-. Vasco was in a foul mood. He had left his village of Sunglasses. El. Salvador to hunt down as tech rebels. But only found was a smattering of Spanish and Portuguese bandits traders worse traders who didn't even put up a good fight a dozen highway men had ambushed them. But even with the element of surprise they had fallen within moments before Voss goes men. Before him a wounded bandit crawled away in the dirt leaving a trail of blood behind him. The fool had tried to attack him with a stolen arche booze only for the Musket to backfire in his face vasko followed leisurely. Why would you betray your country like these? Are you. So in need of goal that you join the savages. Answer. ME. Honestly. For I am the last face you'll see on this earth. With effort, the man turned over and looked up at Vasco his face mangled, hopelessly burned and cut so that only one I was still intact he opened his mouth to speak but all that came from his throat was a choked gurgle. Well, I suppose you're last words will remain between you and the Almighty. Law, school raised his sword to finish the man off the bandit raised his hand and Bosco paused dangling between the man's bloody fingers was a dagger for a moment. Vasco almost laughed it looked like a pitiful gesture of surrender and then the bandit stabbed the blade downward burying it in Vasco his foot. Vasco kicked out with his other foot rolling the man onto his. Then, he brought down his sword slashing into the bandits back over and over the man cried out in pain rising in the dirt. Abandoning his foe Vasco reach down and pull the knife from his foot with a wince the mangled bandit Mon somehow still alive in spite of his wounds. But Vasco didn't strike again. Instead he wiped his sword on his trouser leg and she did breathing heavily he called out a command to the surrounding soldiers. Leave this one that him die slowly. Vasko turned and began to limp back to the horses. He flung the bandits knife aside and discussed there was no glory in this victory he should be home a detour to Mexico. City had delayed their journey and his children would be missing him. He swung himself into his saddle and winced as his injured foot banged into its stirrup. He could feel the blood filling his boot, but he would not stop for such a minor inconvenience. He had a better life to pursue. Sunday, they'll salvador remained unchanged in the weeks. Since he'd left he grimaced at the familiar squalor, he needed to get his family to a real city. The life of a conquistador was an increasingly unrewarding existence. If there were no native tribes to conquer, he would face a life of poverty. Though. He dearly wanted to see his children again he did not go straight to his home. He went to the chapel the modest adobe building the entire mission was structured around Father Garcia world around unable to hide his shock the captain's sudden appearance. A pleasant surprise don't bother with the pleasantries monk chess. Let me sit in something that is not a Sata. I never would have thought I'd missed one of your puce father are you here to pray? I am here to rest I must let myself calm down before I pray I don't want to say anything I might regret later. I, presume you're faure did not go as plant. There is no band of Aztec rebels. The rumors were either exaggerated or nearly false care not which two weeks of searching and all I got was a wounded foot and notched sword for my trouble. Your wife will be pleased to hear you return home safely. She'll be less pleased when she hears what comes next. But. That's why I came to you first father. I'm not sure I understand. I've seen how you look at my wife. My beautiful. Native. Wife Gum. Tomorrow. Morning. She may be yours. You should go home clean your wound stop talking foolishness. It is no foolishness father listen to me carefully tomorrow I will take the children and go to Koyo work on. There is a lady there of Spanish birth who I will marry and raise my children in a proper way. But. Maria is your wife. Oh you poor fool. PRAISED THE AZTEC GODS father. I hear her mother, their names in her sleep. How can our marriage be legitimate if her conversion was not genuine? Garcia fell silent his hands trembled Vasco grinned mirthless -ly he enjoyed seeing this self righteous man so distressed but that was not his goal. I need you to convince her to stay behind while I leave. You cannot expect me to do this can tie. You've made a tidy career out of getting savages to forsake the things they hold. Dear she's no different. Bosco stood and padded Garcia on the shoulder with a grunt he limped back toward the doorway he had a family to see. Maria was still haunted by her dream from two weeks past the visions had been horrible a boy ravaged by smallpox and a spectral woman in white but they had not inspired fear in her the woman was the goddess Walk Waddell, a patron of motherhood. Maria. News that if the gods of her childhood survived, maybe there was hope for her maybe she wouldn't vanish nameless Leslie into what her husband called new ever Espana as for what she would do about her husband she hadn't decided. Father Garcia told her that he was her one chance for a good life in this new world but putting all your hopes in one man seemed like a foolish notion to her especially when that one man made his living in blood. Vasco burst through the door with no warning his armor was no longer shiny and his tunic was stained in several places with mud and Gore. He leaned heavily on his left foot and his right boot appeared to be torn. Mamoru helped me with my boot are you injured it will heal I just need your help cleaning and binding it before I, go to a proper surgeon. Maria. Helped her husband wriggle out of his soaked boot. It already smelled of wrought the injury itself looked horrible. The soft flesh between Vasco goes toes had been split asunder leaving his big toe dangling off the side of his foot. How did this happen? I encountered that band of Aztec rebels had to be thirty men strong at least against our small band five of them set upon me and I best to them all. This wound was a small price to pay for the safety of Nuevo Spine Ya. The story made Maria Pause. It seemed impossible that her husband had encountered the same group of as. She had seen the other night that band as far as she knew were still camped in wait at the mouth of the river. If her husband had fought a different band that meant that the resistance was stronger than even Spanish rumors might claim a spark of hope blossomed in her chest though she was careful not to let it show on her face. Are you planning to go to a city for your doctor of course, can't find a decent surgeon here? It's a long ride. Perhaps I can apply some of my own medicine to your injury. You were never a medicine woman. True. But all women intendo cheat line were taught certain skills. In the case of household injuries. You don't have the skill to repair this kind of wound. No No. Not Repair husband just. Preserve it so that it will survive the journey to the nearest city. Maria bit her tongue. Of course, not a word of what she said was true. She had no real medical knowledge, but she counted on her husband's prejudices to blind him to this fact in Vasco split foot. She had seen an opportunity. He was a cruel man, a warrior and a killer. Those things were cleared her a wound like this could mean deaf if handled improperly, she would not be blamed if he died warriors DEF-. What do you say me I'm on. Very will. But only if you explain to me step by step what you are doing, of course, my love, a wife keeps no secrets from her husband. Maria dressed Vasco injury and applied a number of crushed herbs to the bloody gash before tying it up she made up names for them in her native language and told him what they were supposed to do in truth. They were all plants. Parents had told her to stay away from. He would never return from his trip to the city and she could take their children wherever she wanted for once in her life meritas future was looking brighter than her past. Up Next Maria and Vasco is plans for the future collide now back to the story. Of all the figures that combined to create the weeping Banshee La Johanna. Possibly, the most interesting was a real woman who lived in the sixteenth century, another woman known as Lama. Lama Lynch was one of a number of women G- into a non Cortez as slaves. Early in his conquest of Mexico she would be his primary interpreter during their conquest and also his lover referred to as Dona Mighty. Now, by the Spanish her diplomatic skill commanded a great deal of respect from Spaniards and indigenous Mexicans alike, her son Martine Cortez was one of the first mess teeth, os or people of mixed Mexican and European Ancestry, and sometime in the late fifteen twenty s she completely. From history her fate remains a mystery lost to time. Monreale watched as her husband played with their children he was stumbling about with his bandaged for. Acting his triumphant fight against the savages who nearly cut his foot off, she had to force herself to stay silent and not point out the many flaws in his obviously exaggerated story. The children would forget in time his poorly dressed foot wound would fester and before he could even reach a doctor in Mexico City, he'd be dead of infection. Maria was not a murderer like him and she comforted herself with the knowledge that she had not caused his injury. His God might not understand her actions, but perhaps her gods would. The gods she signed her dreams understood her far better than the God on the Cross. She was hanging the children's clothes out to dry. When a familiar figure approached her father Garcia shows blinked and surprise. This was the farthest. She'd ever seen him come from the chapel. Maria. I've been looking for you. Can we talk. For to support the father bettle, what do you want with me? I have heard a disturbing rumor and I wanted your assurance. That is not true. What is this? I've heard you still pray to Pagan Gods. The gods of your ancestors Is this true. Father. I have no shrines to them. I make no sacrifices. Just. Ask My husband. I have? He says you mutter their names in your sleep. This is absurd words uttered and sleep are not prayers but they do show a certain hesitance of spirit. Come with me. Why I need to begin your education. Your soul is in jeopardy Maria but together, we will lead you to salvation. Maria cast a glance back to her husband and children Vasco had been joined by two broad men members of his gang of Kosovars he pointed toward her and her heart fell. This was no idle accusation. They were trying to take her away from her children. Francisco. The, men were upon her before she could say another syllable they quickly dragged her to the chapel get your hands off me. Doing. It pains me to say this Maria but your children deserve a mother who lives by Christian values. Are used to trust. You got see. I thought you were an innocent four with an open heart. But I see you clearly now you're just evil as my husband. Sorry No one will hurt you in here and tomorrow. Will. Begin. Your. Education. The men through Maria into the chapel and shut the doors she crouched in the corner and wept Vasco would take her children to Mexico City and soon, they would not even know her name as daylight dwindled and the candles inside burned low Maria finally decided to pray but not to the God who loomed above her on the Cross. C quota. I. I have never spoken to you before. Please hear me now. I. Have No sacrifice to give you a few free me from this mission. I will be in your debt. Sandra, Salvador, can be your sacrifice. I will give this entire village to you if you let me see my children. Are Nothing, but murderers and cowards here. Take vengeance for your children The sound of the church bell ringing shattered marinas prayer cries of panic rose from outside the chapel, and then they transformed into screams. Maria could not see what was happening but she smiled all the same vengeance had come for this mission. The chapel doors flung open knocking Maria onto her back in the doorway stood Father Garcia his eyes were wide face Pale with shock. The priests stumbled forward wavering strangely on his feet not paying any attention to Maria. He made his way straight for the altar. Maria gasped to see arrows protruding from his side. His robe was soaked through with blood. One of the shafts had pierced straight through his palm. spitted through Santiago. Garcia reached the alter grasped desperately at the cross behind it, but his fingers could not reach a moment. Later he fell knocking over the nearby candles fire and man reached the floor at the same time, but only one of them rose again. The pews caught quickly consumed by the growing Inferno Maria gave little thought to the fate of Father Garcia she turned and ran. The attack that Vasco had been warned of had finally come. Sandra. They'll salvador was in chaos men and women ran every which way stumbling over bodies soldiers in partial armor charged like wounded beasts through the fray seeking an attacker that knew the land better than they spears and arrows lashed from the shadows and in the distance of figure in white watched. Maria made her way straight for her home keeping to the edges of the violence. The Burning Chapel was all the light she needed to see by. Found Vasco fighting by their home blade against spear blood ran down his face from a cut on his forehead. But he seemed far from beaten his blade whistle as it bid into his opponent's chest. But Maria wouldn't focus efforts on that man. She was there for her children at none and Francisco cowered inside their home tears streaking their cheeks. Maria. Swept them up into her arms. Come with me MEC-. They won't hurt us. She took them out the back of their house and away from the battle her feet stung and her breath burned in her chest. But she did not stop until she reached the river the one place she felt safe. I need both of you to be quiet being. Since when are they ever been quiet? Maria world around Bosko appeared through the weeds behind them sword dangling from his limp arm he raised the Crimson Blade at her. You. Make this happen. You call your savage kid to attack us. I cannot take credit for the destruction you so willingly courted Francisco at a non gone to your father. They will not silence that the children make their own choice. Maria felt something pulling her hands. She looked down Francisco had taken two steps toward his father and was trying to wriggle his hand free of hers at non was doing the same when she met there is she saw only fear. What had their father told them about her people? How had he sold such distrust in innocent minds Maria felt tears swimming in her eyes Bosco had won. They would grow up to be citizens of Nueva Espana with no pride or respect for the. WHO. Came before they would become little versions of their murderous father. There was nothing she could do to hurt him. Nothing except. CNBC. Maria took her children and forced them beneath the surface they thrashed against her but she held fast tears roll down her cheeks but she kept her gaze fixed on Vasco. She had been baptized for her husband. That's all this was another baptism. Vasco cried out in rage and horror he stumbled towards her but was not fast enough his mangled foot him too much by the time he reached her both of their children were still He raised his blade and slashed across her throat. Maria sank into the dark waters without protest. She let the energy drain from her limbs and turned her eyes downward. She wanted to catch at least one last glance of her children before she expired. But the children's bodies were gone. She absolutely wondered if they had been washed downstream or if see Waddell had taken them and then the waters closed over her head and she was numb. When she rose again, she was clad in white and the world around her was gray Sanga del Salvador was no more burned to the ground but she had no difficulty finding her husband Bosco had made his way to Mexico City but his foot had become infected and had to be amputated before he reached it every step of the way she cried for her lost children the day Vasco died was the one day she did not weep. DONNAS presence is everywhere in Mexican culture. She appears in folksongs stage plays artwork television, and Cinema. This influence has extended to the United States of America where immigrant communities brought. To a new level of prominence in two, thousand, nineteen alone. There were two prominent motion pictures centered around the figure of ladder. Nah. Stories of Laurent are separated into two varieties and Quinn throw and Estonia the end quin throw tales are first person accounts of the Banshee and East Odia Tales explained her origin, the social dynamics in the east India vary sometimes lawyer Donna is an indigenous woman whose children are taken by their Spanish father who wishes to marry someone of his own race and other times the differences Economic Maria. Is Spanish but of lower social status than her romantic rival like many folk figures lied and I can be re purposed for whatever social needs the teller of the story wants to convey. It could be a run of the mill go story or a historical melodrama about the cruelty of imperialism and racism. There is no one ladder Lorna. She is a Mexican housewife, Lama Lynch, and Seahawk who? Herself and she will never be silent even if she never finds her children for the rest of time, she will stalk the land some nights when close to the border, you can almost hear her sobbing whispering. Thanks again for tuning into mythology, we'll be back Tuesday with a new episode you can find more episodes of mythology and all other parkas originals for free on spotify, not only to spotify already have all of your favorite music but now spotify making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like mythology for free from your phone desktop. Smart Speaker to Stream Thalji on spotify just open the APP and type mythology in the search bar. If you enjoy mythology, you'll love my other podcast tales, Tales, presents, fairy tales the way they were originally told orally and unadulterated traditional fairy tales aren't exactly suitable for children and Wednesday we into another dark classic tale we'll be back on Tuesday with another epic story. Mythology was created by Max Cutler is a podcast studios original executive producers, include Max, and Ron Cobbler sound designed by Michael Lang's ner with production assistance by Ron Shapiro Carly Madden and Isabella Way. 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A Divided Government And A President On The Defense

The Diane Rehm Show

38:06 min | 2 years ago

A Divided Government And A President On The Defense

"Hi, it's Diane be back with you on. My mind is weak result said this week's midterm elections. Broader return to party governance in Marchington, Democrats, take control of the house in January. But the president's reaction was anything. But conciliatory my guest today. Susan Glasser predicted before Tuesday's vote that they were few outcomes that could fix our broken politics. And this week is an indication of what's to come. She's right to glass or is his step writer at the New Yorker. She joined me in the studio Friday morning. Susan gloves through it's great to see, you know, it's wonderful to see your Diane. What thank you in your recent count on you, call the mid term elections rebuke. And not a repudiation the Trump presidency. What do you mean? Well, look, I think there was a hope not necessarily at all realistic one that somehow on the part of Democrats and Trump critics even in his own party that this might be a definitive message to the president. But of course, the Senate was never realistically going to go democratic when you looked at which states of the one third of the Senate with that were up free election this year, and what I'm struck by how Trump in a very Trumpian way has taken what by any measure is a significant rebuke of the president. This is now by the way, the largest democratic class in house of representatives since the Watergate babies have seventy four and yet Trump has chosen in classic fashion to ignore their existence. As if the house didn't flip it all and to treat this as what? He called a very big win the other night. He said it was near total and complete victory. Of course. That's not the case. But what's interesting is that he seems to be in a way almost believing his own spin. And he's taken a very aggressive response. Which is to say, I don't believe the Senate can remove me from office. And therefore, I'm gonna do what I want. I'm not going to be constrained to tell me the the recounts going on in Florida and Georgia. Well, you know, we're all having a little bit of flashback. Aren't we Diana at least those of us who are old enough to remember Florida recount of two thousand? You know, it's fascinating both the house, and I started both the Senate and the governor's race in Florida would be within the legally mandated margin of error to require recant. Now, the actual count is not even done in those places Georgia just seems to be an absolutely disgraceful example of every kind of miscue. And so we don't know the results of these very hotly contested races in in both states. There's a heightened concern because these are southern states long subject to the federal provisions of the Voting Rights Act serious questions that both African American nominees for governor. And Bo states, you know, would that this would be the vote counting. I just think it undermined public faith and confidence in our political system at a time. When frankly it's already undermined by the systematic assault of President Trump onto many of our institutions of our democracy. So we'll the is recounts continue I believe so. Oh, yes. I do. And we'll see now again, there's basilic provision of for a machine recount. And then if even closer for a hand recount of the ballots in Florida, so we'll see what actually occurs in both places. But I think you're looking at an very partisan fight over how even to proceed in Florida. What about absentee ballots? They already been counted. They haven't been fully counted in. That's the reason why we're not actually even at the recount siege. Puerto actually at the count stage still which again is is disgraceful. I want to ask you about President Trump's press conference because not only was it shocking. It in reality in hell hostile. He was twos. Some of those reporters, especially the young African American woman from PBS tell me about that encounter. Well, diane. I'm glad you brought that up because I was also struck by that we know that he has a longstanding sparring relationship with Jim Acosta from CNN from Peter Alexander NBC who tried to defend Jim Mukasa from CNN. But this one really left out Trump seems to have a very conscious strategy of attacking journalists. Both those who Spar with him were from networks that he doesn't like. But also, you wonder whether he singled out this young woman of color in order to have what looked to me like a preplanned answer. She asked him and extremely professional and reasonable and indeed important urgent questions. She said she said, Mr President, you know, when you called yourself, a nationalist on the campaign trail, this was interpreted by many, white, nationalist and members of the extreme right wing in the United States as a message to them that you're with them was was that your intention and what did? Do you mean by that he jumped down her throat wouldn't even let her finish the question and said this is a racist question. And again, I was struck by the fact that he repeated it is as if he had this ready to go, and he just couldn't wait to get out of the gauge she literally didn't even get her sentence finished. She was calm. She was professional. She handled a very unprofessional salt. I thought by the president of the United States in a very very collected way. But she didn't back down. What do you make a the exchange with Jim accussed? And that there may have been some change in the video of young White House employee trying to get the microphone back from him. A question raised by the White House press secretary saying that a customer put his hand on this young woman. Well, diane. It just isn't it? It's the whole thing is so sad. And in many ways disgraceful that this is the conversation. We're having after such an important election season. It seems to me number one the White House came out and was ready to have a conflict with journalists that this was President Trump strategy going into that press conference, many people pointed out the smiling faces of his advisors sitting there at the very beginning of the confrontation as if they knew something was coming you. I've looked studied that photograph several times you see, Sarah Sanders. Bill sign his new media adviser who comes from Fox News. You see Jared Kushner, they all look like they were primed and ready for the fight that then did in fact occur number one number two. Tim akasa? He's been a controversial figure in covering this White House. He doesn't handle himself in the way, you're. Or I might if we were sitting in that room. And I guess my view is that you don't have to like or even endorse. The behavior of how journalists do their job to think that they have the right to do it. And that I think is the principle that is under assault right now by the White House the first amendment is not for popular people. And it's not for people doing things in the way that we expect them an absolute, right? It is unconditional and the White House has really crossed a red line in going after and withdrawing the press pass someone who's questions. They don't like. Now, you raise the issue of that in of itself would be obviously extremely worrisome to journalists number one. But number two they've now even gone over the top in what appears to be the actual circulating of doctored. Video in order to undermine the report even more into construct a. False pretext for the withdrawal of this press credential. And you know, I watched the press conference you did as well. I'm sure he clearly did not push your harm this White House intern in any way, in fact, the White House doctored video even took out the audio sound of him saying excuse me, ma'am, which he said to this young intern as she was trying to grab the microphone away from him. Now, again, I I don't wanna get in an argument over his behavior because my view is that the first amendment is what's at issue here and not how Jim Acosta Justice job. But his right to do it during the press conference. President Trump was has several times as to whether he intended to make changes to his cabinet specifically about attorney general sessions said well, we'll see don't wanna talk about that. Now. And the very next hour almost he announced that Matthew Whitaker would become the acting attorney general. What does it mean to take out Jeff Sessions? Well, look, Diana, and you underscored the this sort of it's not a comic opera here. But at times, it can feel like it in terms of their handling of things, I think it was by design President Trump was playing the press corps. You know, it's the illusion of transparency not transparency, and that's consistent with how the White House views its role in communicating with the American people, which is to say not at all Sarah Sanders, as you know has eliminated essentially, the longstanding institution of the daily press briefing that is existed for decades under both Republican and democratic presidents. They are down and some months to you know, a mere handful, you know, five or six a month or even less actually in the month before the. These important midterm elections that press conference again, it makes a farce and a mockery of the idea that they are submitting to questioning by journalists on behalf of the American people and to make such a major decision that he'd clearly already taken and to lie essentially to the public in that press conference while turning it into a circus spectacle. It's very unseemly depressing. And it's extrordinary to me that so many in President Trump's owned party continue to enable this behavior number one number two. It's very significant. Because in fact, there are many even within President Trump's own party who are very concerned about the action. He then took which he didn't want answer questions about which was to appoint Jeff Sessions own chief of staff to be the acting attorney general someone who has not been confirmed by the United States Senate into any position here, and there are many, including conservative legal scholar such as George Conway who is. The husband of Kellyanne Conway, Donald Trump's White House counselor. He's argued in New York Times op-ed that the appointment of Whittaker to be the acting attorney general is unconstitutional. And so this was very much by design. President Trump did not want to answer questions about this move that many view as a wild usurpation of power designed to undercut or perhaps to shut down the special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of President Trump. Matthew Whitaker has made previous come inset that what he thinks of this whole investigation which today President Trump said he's never even met Whitaker. He said, I don't know him, obviously, he knows him. And in fact, there's a whole Shakespearean tail really of potentially betrayal where Whitaker was apparently in number of Oval Office meetings. According to rely. Lable accounts. I in the Washington Post and other news organizations this week in meetings in Oval Office with President Trump and sessions at which that's what impressed Trump was that Whitaker was taking a more skeptical view of the molar investigation than the boss who had recused himself from it to Trump's fury. And that appears to be the reason that Trump apparently without vetting this very controversial figure decided to appoint him as an acting attorney general. And so there's that incredible tale of like how did he betray or stab his own boss in the back number one? Right. And number two and even more consequentially. There's the question of having appointed a figure who appears to potentially be in violation of the constitution. There will be grounds to sue on the part of those who wished to challenge any decisions of the Justice department that he signs off on while. He's. The acting attorney journal number one number two he has this public record of statements, including CNN of questioning the Muller investigation suggesting that Russians did not really intervene in a significant way in the twenty sixteen election. Also suggesting that there would be a way perhaps to starve the Muller investigation of resources away of shutting down in any other normal Justice department. This would be more than grounds for recusals to oversee the special counsel investigation having or de had a record of publicly speaking out against it since Watergate, the principal has held in democratic and Republican administrations ever since Watergate that attorneys general and their designated did not interfere in criminal investigations that is a red line that again is being crossed by the Trump administration without us even having anyway to register this is. Something that is starting to. I don't understand how the president can even a point him as in acting attorney general if you sit according to these conservative illegals go that is unconstitutional. Well, the question Diane is what's anybody gonna do about it? And so you have a couple of different options. Neither of which as I'm not a lawyer. I don't know which is the right approach. Is it something that congress needs to challenge is it something that's many needs to bring a lawsuit who has standing to bring a lawsuit already. That's what a lot of the conversation is about would a member of the Senate. For example, have standing to bring a lawsuit immediately against President Trump, given that the constitutional provision being abrogated here, it appears to be that of the senate's role as giving advice and consent and because. Was the attorney general of the United States or his designate is a is a principal officer, which means reports directly to the president that person even in an acting capacity supposed to be confirmed by the Senate. So with someone from the Senate have standing to object again, this is legally uncharted territory, y because no other president would do this by the way, President Trump has multiple Senate confirmed officials in the Justice department that he could have made the acting attorney general multiple, do you think as an acting attorney general would occur could shut down the a lawyer investigation. Well, I think on the basis of the constitutionality of his being in the office alone. We would immediately begin teed a massive court fight, which would send us into constitutional crisis territory, absolutely comparable, if not worse than that that faced president Nixon during Watergate what options. Didn't do democrat tad. Well, look, first of all the first and most obvious option is for President Trump to back down. Now, as we know President Trump doesn't like to do this and generally tends to double down rather than to back down. But in this particular case, you could already see that by Friday morning a little bit of softening, you know, reported sources telling some news organizations. Well, he's looking at this. They were surprised at the conservative legal blowback, you know. So the obvious Lucien here is for President Trump simply to change gears and to say, well, you know, for the purposes of this we're going to make someone else the acting attorney general, but as we know he doesn't like to do that. Perhaps Mark Whitaker will find an urgent family situation that requires his immediate attention. If not I think you are looking at potentially a constitutional crisis. No quick break. But I return more of my conversation with who's good, sir. Hi, Cogil, non I hope you enjoying on my mind. And I also hope you checking the Kolja loam these show we connect the dots between events happening in Washington, Maryland Virginia through conversations with politicians artists. Chefs the list goes on you can listen to our podcast on demand by subscribing on your favorite podcast app. So you never miss an episode. And we're back here. The resident Mike under sage with Susan Glasser recorded Friday morning. Let's talk about the number of women elected to the Hudson representatives more now than ever. Well, that's right. We're over the one hundred women threshold for the very first time in the largest number of women who've ever been elected. Let's just be clear from the start that it's not enough. And it's nowhere near the fifty one percent that it should be. If America really had a Representative democracy that pace of change in many ways for women in our public offices as well as in private corporations, I think has been. Astonishingly slow, you know. And if you had to say to me one thing that, you know, when I entered, you know, professional life after college the biggest single surprise would be at just how slow progress has been on this front think about African Americans is what? Well, that's exactly right. So on the one hand this new congress, especially in the house of representatives, the democratic majority caucus in the house of representatives will be believe majority not white male for the first time in history. And this is a significant breakthrough believe it's it's largely fueled by the reaction and the backlash to the election of Donald Trump over the first woman nominee of major party two years ago. So I think it shows that change can happen that when it comes it can even be swift in historical terms. This is a big reversal from just a couple years ago. But I wouldn't be sanguine because I worry that now women minorities being represented have become part of the political polarization in our country. And so you have this increasingly white male party, the Republican party, and this increasingly more diverse party the Democratic Party when it comes to their elected officials. So in some way, that worries me the two parties are moving farther apart even on this important question of. How and weather fifty percent of our population will be represented, so a hell United do believe. These Democrats are going to be first and foremost behind Nancy Pelosi. Well, it's a really good question. You know, the odds certainly the moment strongly favor Nancy Pelosi to be elected as speaker that would make her as my my husband pointed out the other day, both the first and the second woman speaker of the house of representatives, obviously a number of years apart in which she was the minority leader in her party had lost control of the house. The Republicans and President Trump really trying to make her part of the campaign issue. This year tried to nationalize this is a race between Trump and Nancy Pelosi now that of course, wasn't entirely successful. She's not nearly as well known of a political figure. She doesn't have as much of an identity. He tried to call her a San Francisco liberal. She's long represented house district from San Francisco. You know that demonization to a certain extent was affected in that. You had a number of house candidates Democrats running in a Republican district one by Trump who were either reluctant to endorse her for leader of their party or even outright came out against her the current count that I saw this morning was about ten Democrats said publicly that they wouldn't vote for Pelosi for speaker on the floor. Now, as you know, they're having a relatively narrow majority in house, but still there would be more than ten seat cushion. They're so she'd probably win anyways. We don't know whether they'll go through with that or not there's not really a viable candidate other than Pelosi. There's no one who's emerged in a significant way to challenge her. And so in my view, she is going to become the democratic speaker of the house eat than more challenging seems to be the pack that Trump is forcing everybody to play by his rules in. He's saying things that are untrue and making people argue against him. You know, Diane? I'm so glad you brought that up. I wrote about that a little bit in my New Yorker letter from Washington this week because I feel like. Trump critics have had a hard time really ignoring how successful he's been in many respects in shaping and reshaping the contours of our political discourse. Obviously the caravan. Remember, the caravan that's a pretty stark example. But there are so many others the firing of Jeff Sessions six months ago was a red line. And you even Republicans like Lindsey Graham said it was, you know, there would be held a pay. If Trump didn't. Well, he waited long enough. You got us used to the idea of something that was previously unthinkable. And then he did it that how would be Thawra -tarian leaders operate in in almost every society consolidating power. I watched it happen in Putin's Russia in the first four years when vitamin Putin came to power and was re consolidating power in the Kremlin taking control over previously, independent institutions of the media of independent business figures. For example, I remembered. You know, in the assault on behalf Koepke the wealthiest man in Russia, who as you know, emerge then and is now a Putin opponent in exile spent ten years in jail will I they said, well, the he's just going after his company is just a business dispute, then they said, okay? Well, they arrested some of the people around him, but it's never gonna touch Khodorkovsky. And then they stopped Khodorkovsky plane on a tarmac dragged him off of it. And he spent ten years in Siberia. And now that's not gonna happen here in the United States. There are more meaningful checks and balances not to mention a two hundred year history of Representative democracy in this country. But the reason I bring it up is because I believe that President Trump's instincts, his responses, and in particular, his ability to a comedy the American political conversation to the previously unthinkable is exactly what we've been experiencing over the last two years. But that is find my. Help worrying that Muckraker itself is at stake. Diane, I do too. I two. You feel the same way. You know? It's very interesting. I am so lucky to have been a product of what in in hindsight. You know, I guess was a historical exception. But I graduated from college exactly at the end of the Cold War. In fact, you and I are having this conversation on November ninth. It is the anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. And today, by the way, this is fascinating. The Berlin Wall has now been down as long as it was up. But I was a senior and say it's also the anniversary the end of the first World War. That's exactly right. It's the hundredth anniversary of the end of the first World War. It's also by the way, the anniversary of crystal knock in Nazi Germany, which was I think the moment when many people in the United States and elsewhere around the world understood. And and the Vale was once and definitively for all off of what was really happening in. Inside of Hitler's Germany and is the anniversary of a much more hopeful anniversary, November ninth nineteen eighty nine. I was a senior in college. And you know, in hindsight, we were wrong, of course. But there was this feeling that freedom and democracy were on the March that this was a new stage of development that maybe it wasn't the end of history as as Frank fruit. Yama rope. It was certainly a period when tyrannies were collapsing, and there was going to be a new they called it the Washington consensus, and now we're looking at a period where for the last twelve years in row Freedom House has said that the number of democracies are going in reverse. That's twelve years in a row. So it predate Donald Trump. He may be a symptom of it rather than the cause of it. But I I look at what's happening here inside the United States. And there's so many developments that you, and I never thought were possible. And it does show you. That that human material is, unfortunately, the same the world over and for those people who believe bad things can't happen here in the United States. I think these last two years have challenged that assumption. Susan another terrible shooting. This time in California are guns going to be back as part of the debate. Well, you know, it's it's an amazing and horrifying thing. That's happened in the country. There's something more than three hundred mass shooting incidents that have occurred just in twenty eighteen alone three hundred in any other country. This would be treated as such a massive public safety and legislative crisis. I do think that many of those new members of congress who are elected in this democratic wave to the house of representatives believe that part of the reason they succeeded in the suburbs. Even in traditionally more Republicans. Suburbs. Is it a wave of revulsion not just about President Trump? But specifically about this gun issue. So I do believe that it's going to be much more politically on the table that it has been a recent years. There's the incredible story. This race was one of the ones that was very close, but was just called yesterday on Thursday after the election in the suburbs of Georgia repor seat once held by Newt Gingrich himself the architect of the Republican revolution. Now, a democratic woman was elected whose own son was gunned down. I believe in a convenience store shooting. Just a few years ago. I am Agean that she and many other new members of congress are gonna come very passionately believing that this is something that has to be on the national agenda, whether they can get anywhere or not. I don't know. But I think that it's it's going to go down in the long view of history as a disgraceful Chaozhou shameful period. Period in our history. Let's talk up these overall Democrats received more votes, but ended up losing two seats. Hell come. Well. We're still waiting to see the final tally it could be anywhere from losing one seat. Only two losing three seats. I think you know, you still have this race in Arizona as well. That's very close. It looks like the democrat may actually pull it out. Even though it looked like on on election night that would be the Republican. That's John McCain's old seat and sorry Jeff lakes old seat. Then you also have this Florida race. It's going to a recount, so there's still some uncertainty there, you know, the popular vote isn't really an indicator of the Senate outcomes because as you know, actually, the least populous states are more represented, and so that number can be unfortunately, a little bit misleading in terms of what it means in terms of Senate seats. This was. By design. Of course, the founders didn't anticipate the level of urbanization in the country. But they wanted to make sure that the Senate reflected the composition the geographic composition of America, regardless of population. You know, an increasingly that's not a good fit with where our parties have sorted themselves out to be Democrats are party of the coasts and of big cities Republicans are party of the interior and small states rural states, and so you have the conflict pronounce there and also the one third of states that had Senate elections this year were even more disproportionately those Republican red states. That's not going to be true two years from now on the twenty twenty election. So the president took to great deal at his press conference about compromise. Do you really think compromise is possible? What will the Democrats do with their? Majority in the house. I would say that the last thing in the world that we're going to see in the next two years is unity bipartisanship, and an enormous record of legislative accomplishment. Number one. There is of course, the controversial figure of the president himself, and because of the nature of how polarizing and divisive. He is as a leader a his own instincts are to fight and to divide, and then be Democrats have constituencies who who quite frankly, loathe the president in way. I've never seen in my lifetime. I I was very young during the Nixon presidency, that's probably the most comparable period when the other party felt so personally strongly about the president that of course, mediates against unity and by partisan compromise. And then the other factor is just the sifting in the sorting of this country. There's a very interesting statistic. I mentioned in my column this week crew. Doug Sosnik who used to be President Clinton's chief political strategist he pointed out back in the nineteen eighties. As much as half of the United States. Senate was elected in came from states that voted the other way in the presidential election by the ten years ago that number was down, but it's still one third of the United States Senate today. The number is seven only seven US senators represent states that went the other way in the presidential election, which means the political incentives are to stick with your party. No matter what until I think. That's what's going to happen. So what can Democrats do in two years? Well, they certainly have subpoena power. Now, they have control over committees. They have the power of the person appropriations bills that need to be passed in order to fund the federal government. So they have some pretty significant powers assigned to them. Directly by the constitution that they're going to exercise in a much more vigorous way than the Republicans happen in the last couple years, and that means a lot of attention, obviously focused on the kinds of investigations and oversight of the president and the executive branch they may undertake, but also on the on a legislative side. There is incentive obviously to work with the Senate. If not with the president himself to get spending bills passed people will be looking for the things that both parties still agree upon generally speaking, by the way, those there are many issues that both parties do agree upon what tends to happen is when the White House or when the president gets involved. That's when an issue becomes toxic for the other party. So, you know, they wanna keep from escalating as many issues as possible in order to get at least the basic work of the government done less questions. Susan, how do you think this election votes for twenty twenty? You know, right before I came here and Diana. I was I was looking at a very interesting commentary from the cook political report house expert who was very on the Mark by the way, and you have to give plots to to the cook report into many others who accurately for told more or less based on their analysis. Exactly, what was gonna happen in this election year, the the pre-election forecasts had gains of between thirty and fifty seats for Democrats in the house and gains of up to five seats for Republicans in the Senate. The picture was less clear there. That's exactly what has happened. It looks like it'll be about thirty five seats. Maybe a couple more close to forty seats for Democrats in the house. They nailed it more or less. Well, what are they saying going into twenty twenty the battleground has shrunk, you know, when when I was young when you were young there were many seats in the nineteen Seventy-six that contested election between Ford and Carter that was really. Close twenty four states in the country. We're seeing as tossups in the presidential election. This analysts said that they're only going to be six states that might be the real battleground in twenty twenty that it's a map that trunk and everybody else is more or less going to carry out their assigned partisan rules now, we'll see of course, it's very early. But I think that's one dynamic that's to shape things number one. Number two, President Trump. Remember did not even win a majority of the popular vote in twenty sixteen. Hillary Clinton did through a quirk of the electoral college in which particular state ended up Mary narrowly winning he won the electoral college, and thus the presidency. That's our system, but he's gone down in both popularity and in votes in key places in the midwest that delivered him the election in twenty sixteen and yet this year in Michigan, and Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin Democrats had huge. Successes across the board in governorships in house races. So that doesn't bode well for Trump going into twenty twenty you never know, you never know sous gloves or great to talk with you. What a treat Diane. I am just so delighted to be with you today. Thank you. This week. I'd love to hear what's on your mind. Connect with those on Facebook and Twitter, send his Email D R pud cast at me, AMU dot org or leaves voicemail. The number is two two eight five four eight eight five one and go to our website. Diane rain or the music was composed by cliff harden comes to his courtesy the capitals own project w AMU this show is produced by Rebecca Kaufman, and Alison Brody engineers is weak or Nedeli your oblivious and Douglas Bill, thanks for listening. 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La Llorona

Mythology

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La Llorona

"Take. something. To note all myths have many versions and variations. For this episode, we've selected those we fell to the most dramatic and entertaining and supplemented them with additional research into Mexican history are myths may not be the version you're familiar with, but we hope you'll enjoy them a warning. Today's myth contains dramatization discussions of child abuse, graphic violence, and genocide. Please exercise caution for all listeners under thirteen. Even. In the rain, the lights of Guadalajara were magical. Arturo was not like the other children whose parents made them fear getting sick at the slightest hint of drizzle. He loved these storms in the gloom building stopped being electrical fixtures and became enormous swarms of firefly's all around him. He leaped from puddle to puddle on his way back from school. The route he took through the city center was convoluted maze of streets and back alleys but he knew it by heart. If it weren't for the traffic, he could walk it blindfolded. Arturo jumped into a particularly large puddle delighting as the mirror surface exploded into droplets under his shoes. He went on running toward a nearby alleyway, a shortcut to the toilet district where his family lived. A strange sound ventured through the pouring rain causing arturo to slow. In the murky blue shadows, a sliver of white caught to two rose I. It was a woman disappearing into the alleyway. He saw her for only an instant but something about her was strange while everyone else seemed to become distant shadows in the rain. She stood out like a beacon. He could hear her weeping as if she was right beside his ears. Followed her into the alleyway. The narrow space was nearly flooded, but the woman didn't seem to care. She was on her knees shoulders shaking with sobs strangely as Arturo drew closer to her it seemed like the sound of her crying receded getting further and further away. He did not know what to say. He had seen his mother cry like this before and she usually requested a hug but he knew better than to hug strangers. Hello. Are you. Okay. I'm sorry I. I don't know. If you WANNA talk to a policeman, I can fetch one. CanNot help me. Okay, I. You feel better. Arturo turn to leave. He could take the long route today. He reasoned he didn't want to get any closer to this woman than necessary a sharp cry sounded behind him. When he turned back the woman loomed over him her face hidden by Vail. Owned me. Me Hit him also. LASANTHA Senora. I can't help you I need to get home. You are home. You are at home with me. You're mistaken Senora. I live with my Wella. She'll be missing me. Arturo took a step back his foot slid on the wet concrete he teetered, and for a horrible moment, he felt like he was going to fall face first into the filthy water but the strange woman caught him and that turned out to be far far worse. Welcome to mythology apart cast original every Tuesday we present dramatic stories from ancient mythology and explore their origins. I'm your host and Narrator Vanessa Richardson. You can find all episodes of mythology and all other podcast originals for free on spotify to stream mythology for free on spotify, just open the APP and type mythology in the search bar. Today's were telling the story of Ladawna, the weeping woman of Mexican folklore. She's a classic Banshee figure menacing any child who sees her because of what became of her own children. She can never enter heaven and is doomed to wander the earth seeking redemption that will never come. Coming up. We'll begin the tragedy of Lij Orna. This episode is brought to you by bull and branch incredibly soft sheets crafted with organic cotton. So comfortable, even three former US presidents have slept on them only at B. O. L. L. Andbranch DOT COM. This episode is brought to you by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Forty eight states banned texting and driving. So if you do it, you're not only putting people at risk you're breaking the law. Remember you drive you text you pay. As we've seen many times on this show, most the characters exist to impart morality tales or stories explaining the way the natural world behaves but others are more like ghosts, not elemental figures representing the unknown but echoes of the Cruelty Human Beings inflict upon each other larger Donna is such a figure. She's a spirit unique to Mexican folklore whose origins are shrouded in mystery. Most retailing's can agree on the broad strokes of her story, but not on the circumstances surrounding it or even when the story began. She said to be the spirit of a beautiful woman named Maria who drowned her children in a jealous rage. When she discovered her husband was seeing another woman her weeping boast now wanders the world looking for the children she's killed whenever a child encounters her she repeats her original sin and drowns them. The story of Maria is oral one. So tracing the origin of Ladawna to a specific telling is more or less impossible. Her first appearance in writing came in an eighteen eighty, three poem by Manuel Carpio it goes as follows. By though that there are. Hail with terror I heard when I was a child I an innocent child that a lawless man killed his wife. Rosa. Lia in my town. And since then in the dark of night, the frightened townsfolk can hear it. The moans of the suffering woman moaning as she gives in to her agony. For a while her lament ceases but then along cry breaks out and alone through the streets, she crosses filling all with mortal terror. Then by the river in thick darkness, she leaves crying wrapped in her cloak. Notice this poem contains no references to impact aside, only a poor woman who was killed by her husband who sadness sustains her even after her death. This is the thread that unites all versions of larger Dona Depot Unquenchable. Grief. To uncover the true horrors behind the tale of Labrador. Ladonna we have to go all the way back to the sixteenth century of formative period of Mexican history and like so many transitional periods throughout history. The formation of Spanish colonial Mexico was marked by tragedy. The river was always cold marinas hands worked back and forth across the washboard soaking and cleansing the fabric between her fingers. Her children had none and Francisco played up river splashing each other with delight. The cool water. Delighted them in the Scorching Summer Sun. Maria looked up. The Sun was rising higher and higher over the horizon. It was getting late she would need to finish the washing soon. And all too familiar sound carried them from over the ridge a bell tolling Maria, resumed her scrubbing with even greater vigor. Nine Francisco Gay The children responded immediately running over to their mother. When they reached her Maria could see a shadow of disappointment in there is they were sad to see their playtime ending. Dry Yourselves going back home to get dressed for church. Remember do not tell your father. I was washing clothes on a Sunday being. The children nodded though Maria could tell they didn't quite understand why she was so adamant in truth it didn't make much sense to her either. But rules were rules. She wasn't supposed to be working on the seventh day of the week. So she only worked when absolutely necessary. Together. Maria and her sons set off on the footpath back to their home. It was a short walk but the growing heat made the air feel like fire around them her children complained constantly prompting a reprimand from their mother. Behave yourselves news. The heat is nothing to me and it should be nothing to you either. You have the blood of land in your veins. But even as she said, these words, Maria felt a Pang of guilt. How could she take pride in her heritage when she had forsaken her faith when that very day they were on their way to pray to a God, she did not believe in. Her New Home Sanga they'll Salvador D- was an outpost of this God ommission built by the Christians who murdered her people and gave her a new name. As carefully as she could, Maria said her basket of clothes in a nook beside the door where it would not be spotted. Then she entered her home as casually as she could her husband Vasco their sodia was waiting for them. But something was different about his appearance today. Instead of wearing his Sunday best, he was dressed in a rough tunic, a breast plate and helmet lay nearby, freshly polished and waiting for their owner at marinas entrance Vasco turned a wolf fish grin on his face. Where have you been all this morning? I thought for a moment you take in children and run away I've been making sure the children are clean for mass more. You'll maiden it bothered they'll surely be dirty again before you even reached the chapel. Don't you mean we has been you will have to go on without me. I've heard word that there is a band of Aztec rebels hiding in the mountains. It is my duty to take my men and crush them before they have time to rally an army. I'm confused. I thought the seventh day was supposed to be a day for prayer. Sometimes. We are called away from prayer to do the Lord's work. Will. Will you be home for supper I may be gone a week or more I expect we'll spend most of the time chasing them through the wilderness like rabbits. Perhaps you should take with you I could translate for you and we could avoid bloodshed my sweet Maria we do not negotiate with savages the ones that are left new. There was a choice between salvation and death they made their choice just as you made yours. These words haunted Maria even as she and her children knelt for mass in their modest chapel. She had married a man she thought had noble ideals though he came from an entirely different land and their people had been at war. She had been taught that marriages like hers would help secure peace but more and more. She suspected that piece was never the goal for men like Vasco had treated her tenderly at first but she soon realized that this tenderness was not genuine affection. He wanted to be sure he wouldn't break her too soon not until he was sure she was tough enough to see his violent side. These sorts of thoughts kept her from focusing whenever she went to pray their priest a Franciscan friar named Father Garcia administered mass passionately. She barely heard his words and that was before she saw the boy in the chapel. Her I caught on a shadow behind the altar not much taller than her eldest son it skin was wrong where there was one smooth flesh. A horrible pattern of crusted bumps made the boy look more like a statue than a person. Maria? Had seen a condition like this before, but it sufferers weren't able to stand up. The infected boy raised a finger to his lips a moment later he was gone almost as if he had never been there. When the service was concluded, the rest of the congregation had dispersed Maria approached the friar he smiled pleasantly at her approach. What can I do for you? Maria I have a question for you father I. I'm not sure how to ask this. If the wrong person heard me, they could say such things do not worry your words are between you and me alone I will tell no one. I've done my best to be good to my husband but our marriages. Cold what do I do? Is there any saving our family? My child and glad you came to me. This is not an unusual problem. You should focus on the parts of your marriage that bring you joy. Can you do that? I don't know. What about your children? Children. If you have no love for your husband, serve him for your children's sake. How can I serve a man? Who has no love for me laughed? How does that make me any better than a slave do not think of it as servitude but as a calling, you have a duty to your husband just as we have a duty to our heavenly father, you must find happiness in fulfilling that duty. He only happiness I can imagine a life without him. Maria. Think of the advantage your marriage gives you. Your children will not be seen as refugees of not plan. They will be Christian citizens of SPAGNA. They will have a better life. Maria thanked Father Garcia for his advice she appreciated his open heart but new deep within that he could not understand her situation. He did not know what it was like to see his way of life dwindle before his eyes and to sleep next to a man who participated in the slaughter of her people when night finally fell, Maria could not close her eyes the house. Seemed strangely lifeless without Vasco, but it was a kind of emptiness. She liked she didn't need to hide her sorrow from this sort of emptiness a figure stirred in the doorway at first. She thought it was one of her sons and waited for him to arrive in her bed telling her about some bad dream but it lingered at the doorway for only a moment before. Back into the outdoors. Maria felt the strangest sensation rising in her chest without any outward sign she knew that it wanted her to follow. Maria, rose to her feet and stepped out into the night. The dark was so thick around her she couldn't see anything in front of her and yet she was sure of where this presence was leading her it wanted to show her something. She heard the river only a split second before her feet touched the icy water. She recoiled and looked around straining to see anything in the darkness. Something drifted toward her on the water. It was a figure in white shining with a strange faint glow of its own of voice reached her ears moaning softly in the breeze a chill ran up Maria spine though she had never heard that voice before she knew it well. The specter that glided down the river was no vision. It was a visitation from C walk who Waddell the goddess stood her pain forged to was morning not for a single wasted life. But for thousands upon thousands of wasted lives, Maria wanted to run forward and embrace the spirit but she stayed still tears running down her cheeks. Maria. By the river, the moon shone high above revealing her to be completely alone by the glistening silver waters. Or not quite alone shadows moved along the horizon but these weren't ghosts they held spears and bows in their hands and wore deeply serious expressions. Maria stiffened when she realized that these were the Aztec rebels her husband had been searching for. They had somehow escaped his army and were camped at the mouth of the river. Coming up busker returns home and Maria makes a bold attempt for her freedom. Listeners I'm so excited to introduce you to the newest spotify original from podcast called blind dating hosted by Youtuber. Terra Michelle blind dating is a fun twist on a classic setup. Strangers are introduced conversation commences an sparks either fly or fizzle but here's the catch are hopeful singles have to choose their match before ever seeing their face and once they've picked their potential date, we turn the cameras on and then it's either butterflies or goodbyes blind dating airs weekly with new episodes every Wednesday you can find follow blind dating free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. In a world where CATNIP is plentiful and every room has a scratching post something spooky is lurking. Premiering October sixteenth temptations productions presents this stuff of cat nightmares the first ever horror movie for cats scaredy cat. The next time you hear those glasses falling off the counter and picture frame sliding off the shelves you may want to think twice is that your cat or something far more sinister scaredy cats and movies. So hair raising that you're very feline will race under the bed to hide before being lured out by the temptation to keep watching this halloween don't trick them treat them. Straight. Cat Magazine gives scaredy cat five pause and Carol weekly called it the cat's meow. scaredy cat will be available on Amazon fire, TV andro pill. So head to YouTube dot com slash temptations brands to watch the trailer now. Now. Back to the story. Has Been Haunting Mexican folklore since the late nineteenth century but experts believe her origin comes from far earlier in history before Mexico was conquered by Spain, it was the home of the Aztec people who we featured in many episodes of this very podcast the Aztec Goddess See Waddell shares, many traits that would become central to the legend of Ladonna and all men of war the. So called snake woman has been described as wandering the countryside weeping and wailing to similar Aztec goddesses. Code Liq- and Chaozhou Wheatley have been connected to larger Orna as well. Charter Whitley was the goddess of waters who would often send floods, drown unsuspecting subjects, code liq- was the mother of the God of war. We'd see low poached Louis like see what Waddell she wonders the world caning in grief in some myths, she even foretold the conquest of Mexico by the Spanish and the crumbling of the great as Tech Empire to this foreign onslaught. So maybe or not doesn't only cry for a pair of drowned children perhaps she cries for her countless native children slain during the conquest those whose voices will remain forever silenced by the writers of history. The crossroads was stained red with blood. A gang of armored men made their way through the carnage blades held at the ready out their head was Captain Vasco this Saudi a-. Vasco was in a foul mood. He had left his village of Sunglasses El Salvador to hunt down Aztec rebels but only found was a smattering of Spanish and Portuguese bandits, traders worse traders who didn't even put up a good fight a dozen highway men had ambushed them. But even with the element of surprise, they had fallen within moments before Voss goes men. Before him, a wounded bandit crawled away in the dirt leaving a trail of blood behind him. The fool had tried to attack him with a stolen arche booze only for the Musket to backfire in his face vasko followed leisurely. Why would you betray your country like this compadres? Why? Are you so in need of girl that you join the savage is. Answer me honestly. For. I am the last face you'll see on this earth. With effort the man turned over and looked up at Vasco his face was mangled hopelessly burned and cut so that only one I was still intact. He opened his mouth to speak but all that came from his throat was a choked gurgle. I suppose your last words will remain between you and the Almighty. Law School. Raised his sword to finish the man off the bandit raised his hand and Vasco paused dangling between the man's bloody fingers was a dagger. For a Moment Vasco, almost laughed it looked like a pitiful gesture of surrender and then the bandit stabbed the blade downward burying it in Moscow's for. Vasco kicked out with his other foot rolling the man onto his stomach. Then he brought down his sword slashing into the bandits back over and over the men cried out in pain writhing in the dirt. Abandoning his foe Vasco reach down and pull the knife from his foot with a wince. The mangled bandit moaned somehow still alive in spite of his wounds but Vasco didn't strike again. Instead he wiped his sword on his trouser leg and she did breathing heavily he called out a command to the surrounding soldiers. Leave this one that him die slowly. Thus go turned and began to limp back to the horses. He flung the bandits knife aside and disgust there was no glory. In this victory, he should be home a detour to Mexico City had delayed their journey and his children would be missing him. He swung himself into his. And winced as his injured foot banged into its stirrup, he could feel the blood filling his boot, but he would not stop for such a minor inconvenience. He had a better life to pursue. Sunday they'll salvador remained unchanged in the weeks. Since he left, he grimaced familiar squalor he needed to get his family to a real city. The life of a conquistador wasn't increasingly unrewarding existence. If there were no native tribes to conquer, he would face a life of poverty. Though he dearly wanted to see his children again, he did not go straight to his home. He went to the chapel the modest adobe building the entire mission was structured around Father Garcia world around unable to hide his shock at the captain's sudden appearance. The Saudi. What a pleasant surprise don't bother with the pleasantries monk. Just. Let me sit in something that is not a saddle. I never would have thought I'd missed one of your father are you here to pray? I am here to rest I must let myself calm down. Before I. Pray I don't want to say anything I might regret later. I presume you're faure did not go as planned. There is no band of Aztec rebels. The rumors were either exaggerated or entirely false care not which two weeks of searching and all I got was a wounded foot and notched sword for my trouble. Your wife will be pleased to hear you return home safely. She'll be less pleased when she hears what comes next. But. That's why I came to you first father. I'm not sure I understand. I've seen how you look at my wife. My beautiful native. Wife Gum. Tomorrow morning. She may be yours. You should go home clean your wound stop talking. It is no foolishness father listen to me carefully tomorrow. I. Will Take the children and go to go your on. There is a lady there of birth who I will marry and raise my children in a proper way. But. Maria is your wife. Oh you poor fool. PRAISED THE AZTEC GODS father. I hear her mutter, their names in her sleep. How can our marriage be legitimate if her conversion was not genuine? Garcia fell silent his hands trembled vasko grinned mirthless -ly he enjoyed seeing the self righteous man so distressed but that was not his goal. I need you to convince her to stay behind while I leave. You cannot expect me to do this can tie. You've made a tidy career out of getting savages to forsake the things they hold. Dear she's no different. Bosco. Stood and padded Garcia on the shoulder with a grunt he limped back toward the doorway he had a family to see. Maria was still haunted by her dream from two weeks past the visions had been horrible a boy ravaged by smallpox and a spectral woman in White. But they had not inspired fear in her. The woman was the goddess Wok Waddell, a patron of Motherhood Maria knew that if the gods of her childhood survived maybe there was hope for her maybe she wouldn't vanish nameless into what her husband called Nueva Spun Yeah as for what she would do about her husband she hadn't decided. Father Garcia told her that he was her one chance for a good life in this new world. But putting all your hopes in one man seemed like a foolish notion to her especially when that one man made his living in blood. Vasco, burst through the door with no warning his armor was no longer shiny and his tunic was stained in several places with mud and Gore. He leaned heavily on his left foot and his right boot appeared to be torn. Mamoru helped me with my boot. Are you injured? It will hear. I just need your help cleaning and binding it before I go to a proper surgeon. Maria. Helped her husband wriggle out of his soaked boot. It already smelled of wrought the injury itself looked horrible. The soft flesh between Vasco, toes had been split Asunder leaving his big toe dangling off the side of his foot. How did this happen? I encountered that band of Aztec rebels had to be thirty men strong at least against our small band five of them set upon me and I, best to them all. This wound was a small price to pay for the safety of Nuevo Spine, Ya The story made Maria Pause. It seemed impossible that her husband had encountered the same group of Aztec Warriors. She had seen the other night that band as far as she knew were still camped in wait at the mouth of the river. If her husband had fought a different band that meant that the resistance was stronger than even Spanish, rumors might claim a spark of hope blossomed in her chest though she was careful to let it show on her face. Are you planning to go to a city for your doctor of course, can't find a decent surgeon here it's a long ride. Perhaps I can apply some of my own medicine to your injury. You were never a medicine woman. True. But all women, Intendo teat line were taught certain skills. In the case of household injuries. You don't have the skill to repair this kind of wound. No no not repair has just. Preserve it so that it will survive the journey to the nearest city. Maria bit her tongue. Of course, not a word of what she said was true. She had no real medical knowledge, but she counted on her husband's prejudices to blind him to this fact in Vasco split foot she had seen an opportunity. He was a cruel man, a warrior and a killer. Those things were cleared her a wound like this could mean death if handled improperly, she would not be blamed if he died a warrior's death. What do you say me? I'm on. Very. Well. But only if you explain to me step by step what you are doing, of course, my love a wife keeps no secrets from her husband. Maria dressed Velasco's injury and applied a number of crushed herbs to the bloody gash before tying it up she made up names for them in her native language and told him what they were supposed to do in truth. They were all plants. Her parents had told her to stay away from. He would never return from his trip to the city and she could take their children wherever she wanted for once in her life Maria future was looking brighter than her past. Up Next Maria and Vasco is plans for the future collide. This episode of mythology is brought to you by simply safe. The best way to feel secure inside your home is with Simplisafe, it was designed to be easy to use while protecting your whole home twenty, four seven even ordering is easy. You can do it online with the click of a button when you're box arrives simply placed the sensors, plug it in, and then your home is protected around the clock keeping my family and home safe is top priority simply safe has. 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That's B. O. L. L. Andbranch, DOT COM. Now back to the story. Of all the figures that combined to create the weeping Banshee Ladonna. Possibly, the most interesting was a real woman who lived in the sixteenth century. Now while woman known as Lama Lynch. Lama. Lynch was one of a number of given to add non Cortez as slaves. Early in his conquest of Mexico she would be his primary interpreter during their conquest and also his lover referred to as Dona. Marina by the Spanish. Her diplomatic skill commanded a great deal of respect from Spaniards and indigenous Mexicans. Alike, her son Martin Cortez was one of the first mess teeth oss or people of mixed Mexican and European Ancestry, and sometime in the late fifteen, twenty s she completely vanished from history her fate remains a mystery lost to time. Maria watched as her husband played with their children. He was stumbling about with his bandaged for reenacting his triumphant fight against the savages who nearly cut his foot off she had to force herself to stay silent and not point out the many flaws in his obviously exaggerated story. The. Children would forget in time his poorly dressed foot wound would fester and before he could even reach a doctor in Mexico City, he'd be dead of infection. Maria was not a murderer like him and she comforted herself with the knowledge that she had not caused his injury. His God might not understand her actions, but perhaps her gods would. The gods she signed her dreams understood her far better than the God on the Cross. She was hanging the children's clothes out to dry. When a familiar figure approached her father Garcia she blinked surprise. This was the farthest. She'd ever seen him come from the chapel. Maria. I've been looking for you. Can we talk. For to support father better. What do you want with me? I have heard a disturbing rumor and I wanted your assurance that it is not true. What remembers this I've heard you still pray to Pagan. Gods The gods of your ancestors. Is this true. Father. I have no shrines to them. I make no sacrifices. Just, ask going husband. I have. He says you mutter their names in your sleep. This is absurd words uttered and sleep are not prayers but they do show a certain hesitance of spirit. Come with me. Why? I need to begin your reeducation. Your soul is in Jeopardy Maria. But together. We will lead you to salvation. Maria cast a glance back to her husband and children. who had been joined by two broad men members of his gang of conquistadors he pointed toward her and her heart fell. This was no idle acusations they were trying to take her away from her children. Francisco. The men were upon her before she could say another syllable they quickly dragged her to the chapel get your hands off me. Doing. It pains me to say this Maria but your children deserve a mother who lives by Christian values. Are Used to trust you Garcia. I thought you were an innocent full with an open heart. But I see you clearly now you're just as evil as my husband. I'm sorry. No one will hurt you in here and tomorrow. We'll begin you re education. The men through Maria into the chapel and shut the doors she crouched in the corner and wept, Vasco, would take her children to Mexico City and soon they would not even know her name. As daylight dwindled and the candles inside burned low Maria finally decided to pray but not to the God who loomed above her on the Cross. See. I. Have never spoken to you before. please. Hear me now. I have no sacrifice to give you a few free me from this mission. I will be in your debt. Summer, the Salvador can be your sacrifice. I will give this entire village to you if you let me see my children. Are Nothing but murders and cowards here. Take vengeance for your children. The sound of the church bell ringing shattered Marie as prayer cries of panic rose from outside the chapel, and then they transformed into screams. Maria could not see what was happening but she smiled all the same vengeance had come for this mission. The chapel doors flung open knocking Maria onto her back in the doorway stood Father Garcia his eyes were wide face Pale with shock. The priest stumbled forward wavering strangely on his feet, not paying any attention to Maria he made his way straight for the alter. WHO Maria gasped to see arrows protruding from his side. His robe was soaked through with blood. One of the shafts had pierced straight through his palm. Spit through Santiago. Garcia reached the alter and grasped desperately at the cross behind it, but his fingers could not reach a moment. Later he fell knocking over the nearby candles fire and man reached the floor at the same time, but only one of them rose again. The pews cod quickly consumed by the growing inferno. Maria gave little thought to the fate of Father Garcia. She turned and ran. The attack that Vasco had been warned of had finally come Sunday. They'll salvador was in chaos and women ran every which way stumbling over bodies soldiers in partial armour charged like wounded beasts through the fray seeking an attacker that knew the land better than they spears and arrows lashed from the shadows and in the distance of figure in white watched Maria made her way straight for her home keeping to the edges of the violence, the burning. Chapel was all the lights she needed to see by she found Vasco fighting fighting by their home blade against spear blood ran down his face from a cut on his forehead. But he seemed far from beaten his blade whistle as it bid into his opponent's chest but Maria wouldn't focus her efforts on that man. She was there for her children at none and Francisco cowered inside their home tears streaking their cheeks Maria swept up into her arms. Come with me me see. They won't hurt us. She took them out the back of their house and away from the battle her feet stung breath burned in her chest. But she did not stop until she reached the river the one place she felt safe. I need to be quiet being. Since when they ever been quiet. Maria world around Bosko appeared through the weeds behind them. Sword Dangling from his limp arm he raised the Crimson Blade at her. You make this happen. You call your savage kid to attack US I cannot take credit for the destruction you so willingly courted Francisco at a non gone to your father. They will not silence that the children make their own choice. Maria felt something pulling at her hands. She looked down Francisco had taken two steps toward his father and was trying to wriggle his hand free of hers at non was doing the same when she met there is she saw only fear. What had their father told them about her people? How had he sowed such distrust in innocent minds. Maria felt tears swimming in her eyes Bosco had won. They would grow up to be citizens of Nueva Espana with no pride or respect for the people who came before they would become little versions of their murderous father. There was nothing she could do to hurt him. Nothing except. CNBC horse. Maria took her children and forced them beneath the surface they thrashed against her but she held fast tears roll down her cheeks but she kept her gaze fixed on Vasco. She had been baptized for her husband. That's all this was another baptism. Vasco cried out in rage and horror he stumbled towards her but was not fast enough. His mangled I slowed him too much by the time. He reached her both of their children were still he raised his blade and slashed across her throat. Maria sank into the dark waters without protest. She let the energy drain from her limbs and turned her eyes downward. She wanted to catch at least one last glance of her children before she expired. But the children's bodies were gone. She absolutely wondered if they had been washed downstream or if see KUWATA had taken them and then the waters closed over her head and she was numb. When she rose again, she was clad in white and the world around her was gray Sandra they'll salvador was no more burned to the ground but she had no difficulty finding her husband Bosco had made his way to Mexico City. But his foot had become infected and had to be amputated before he reached it every step of the way she cried for her lost children the Dave Vasco died was the one day she did not weep. Niger ONA's presence is everywhere in Mexican culture. She appears in folksongs, stage plays artwork, television and cinema. This influence has extended to the United States of America where immigrant communities brought larger not to a new level of prominence in two thousand and nineteen alone. There were two prominent motion pictures centered around the figure of Lij Orna. Stories of your own are separated into two varieties and throw and Estonia. The end quench throw tales are first person accounts of the Banshee and Estonia Tales explained her origin the social dynamics in the East Odia vary sometimes Donna is an indigenous woman whose children are taken by their Spanish falter who wishes to marry someone of his own race and other times the differences Economic Maria is Spanish but of lower social status than her romantic rival like many folk figures yoder and I can be re purposed for whatever social needs. The teller of the story wants to convey. It could be a run of the mill, go story or a historical melodrama about the cruelty of imperialism and racism. There is no one ladder Lorna. She is a Mexican housewife, Lama Lynch and see waddle herself and she will never be silent even if she never finds her children for the rest of time, she will stalk the land some nights when close to the border, you can almost hear her sobbing whispering. 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Mythology Crossover: La Llorona

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Mythology Crossover: La Llorona

"We've learned on haunted places. Everything spooky has an origin story. There's no better proof than in the spotify original podcast mythology heroes monsters ancient myths mythology. How they all got started so if you enjoyed this episode. You're about to hear and want more. Be sure to follow mythology free on spotify over every. Get your podcast something to note. All myths have many versions and variations for this episode. We've selected those. We fell to the most dramatic and entertaining and supplemented them with additional research into mexican. History are myths version. You're familiar with but we hope you'll enjoy them a warning. Today's myth contains dramatization and discussions of child abuse graphic violence and genocide. Please exercise caution for all listeners. Under thirteen even in the rain the lights of guadalajara were magical. Arturo was not like the other children whose parents made them fear getting sick at the slightest hint of drizzle he loved these storms in the gloom building stopped being electrical fixtures and became enormous. Swarms of firefly's all around him. He leaped from puddle to puddle. On his way back from school the route he took through. The city centre was a maze of streets and back alleys but he knew it by heart. If it weren't for the traffic he could walk it blindfolded. Arturo jumped into a particularly large puddle. Delighting as the mirror surface exploded into droplets under his shoes. He went on running toward a nearby alleyway. A shortcut to the tunnel orlando district where his family lived a strange sound richard through the pouring rain causing arturo to slow in the murky. Blue shadows a sliver of white kadar. Tours i it was a woman disappearing into the alleyway. He saw her for only an instant but something about her was strange. While everyone else seemed to become distant shadows in the rain she stood out like a beacon. He could hear her weeping as if she was right beside his ears followed her into the alleyway. The narrow space was nearly flooded. But the woman didn't seem to care. She was on her knees shoulders. Shaking with sobs. Strangely as arturo drew closer to her it seemed like the sound of her crying receded getting further and further away. He did not know what to say he had seen his mother cry like this before and she usually requested a hug but he knew better than to hug strangers. Hello miss are you k. I'm sorry i i don't know. Children are if you want to talk to a policeman. I can fetch one. Cannot help me okay. I hope you feel better. Arturo turn to leave. He could take the long route today. He reasoned he didn't wanna get any closer to this woman necessary. A sharp sounded behind him when he turned back. The woman loomed over him her face hidden by avail. Me me hit him also lasantha. I can't help you. I need to get home you are. You are at home with me. You're mistaken your. I live with my wella. She'll be missing me are two row. Took a step back. His foot slid on the wet concrete. He teetered and for a horrible moment. He felt like he was going to fall face. First into the filthy water but the strange woman caught him and that turned out to be far far worse. Welcome to mythology. Apar- cast original every tuesday. We present dramatic stories from ancient mythology and explore their origins. I'm your host and narrator vanessa. Richardson you can find all episodes of mythology and all other podcast originals for free on spotify to stream mythology for free on spotify. Just open the app and type mythology in the search bar today. we're telling the story of yoda. The weeping woman of mexican folklore. she's a classic banshee figure menacing any child who sees her because of what became of her own children can never enter heaven and is doomed to wander the earth seeking redemption. That will never come coming up. We'll begin the tragedy of lied yoder orna bloomberg dot com global news coverage helps you see the opportunity ahead as the leading authority and global business bloomberg dot com reveals new ways of looking at the most urgent issues facing our world like the role of climate and social justice solutions for emerging global economies shifts in technology and more every story bloomberg dot com tells will expand your horizons inspire your purpose and power your success however you define it. Then you're possibility at bloomberg dot com if the thought of the holidays coming up makes you tired for your bed. Then listen up. Casper's black friday sale has a thirty percent off everything. You need to make your place of rest. A place of dreams supportive mattress lash pillow soft sheets cozy room milnes and all of the blankets. But don't fall asleep yet. Casper's black friday sale is on now. Go to casper dot com to shop now. Terms and conditions apply. This episode is brought to you by the new mini countryman. there's nothing many about the new mini countryman. It's spacious four door that can fit up to five people with a trunk. Big enough for cargo to discover more at many usa dot com. As we've seen many times on this show most characters exist to impart morality tales or stories explaining the way the natural world behaves but others are more like ghosts not elemental figures representing the unknown but echoes of the cruelty. Human beings inflict upon each other. Laird is such a figure. She's a spirit unique to mexican folklore whose origins are shrouded in mystery. Most retailing's can agree on the broad strokes of her story but not on the circumstances surrounding it or even when the story began she said to be the spirit of a beautiful woman named maria who drowned her children in a jealous rage when she discovered her husband was seeing another woman. Her weeping coast now wanders the world looking for the children. She's killed whenever a child encounters. Her she repeats her original sin and drowns them. The story of maria is an oral one so tracing the origin of larger donor to a specific telling is more or less impossible. Her first appearance in writing came in eighteen. Eighty three poem by manuel carpio. It goes as follows by though that there are pale with terror. I heard when i was a child. I an innocent child. That a lawless man killed his wife rosa lia in my town and since then in the dark of night the frightened townsfolk can hear it the moans of the suffering woman moaning s. She gives in to her agony for a while her lament ceases but then along cry breaks out and alone through the streets. She crosses filling with mortal terror then by the river in thick darkness. She leaves crying wrapped in her cloak. Notice this poem contains no references to infanticide only a poor woman who was killed by her husband who sadness stains her even after her death. This is the thread that unites all versions of your own. Ah deep unquenchable grief to uncover the true horrors behind the tale of labrador. Nah we have to go all the way back. To the sixteenth century of formative period of mexican history and like so many transitional periods throughout history. The formation of spanish colonial mexico was marked by tragedy. The river was always cold. Marie hands worked back and forth across the washboard soaking and cleansing the fabric between her fingers. Her children had none and francisco played up river splashing each other with delight. The cool water delighted them in the scorching summer sun. Maria looked up. The sun was rising higher and higher over the horizon. It was getting late. She would need to finish the washing soon and all too familiar sound carried them from over the ridge a bell tolling. Maria resumed her scrubbing with even greater vigor. Francisco gay. The children responded immediately running over to their mother when they reached her maria could see a shadow of disappointment in there is. They were sad to see their play time and during dry yourselves. We're going back home to get dressed for church remember. Do not tell your father's washing clothes on a sunday being. The children nodded though maria contest. They didn't quite understand why she was so adamant in truth. It didn't make much sense to her. Either but rules were rules. She wasn't supposed to be working on the seventh day of the week so she only worked when the lutely necessary together marie and her sons set off on the footpath back to their home. It was a short walk but the growing heat made the air feel like fire around them. Her children complained constantly prompting a reprimand from their mother behavior news. The heat is nothing to me and it should be nothing to you either. You have the blood of ads land in your veins but even as she said these words maria felt a pang of guilt. How could she take pride in her heritage. She had forsaken her faith. When that very day they were on their way to pray to god. She did not believe in her new home sanga. They'll salvador was an outpost of discovered a mission built by the christians who murdered her people and gave her a new name as carefully as she could. Maria said her basket of clothes in a nook before the door where it would not be spotted. Then she entered her home as casually as she could her husband vasco. This sodia was waiting for them inside but something was different about his appearance today. Instead of wearing his sunday best he was dressed in a rough to neck. A breastplate and helmet lay nearby freshly polished and waiting for their owner add. Marinas entrance vasco turned a wolf fish grin on his face. Where've you been all this morning are thought for a moment you take the children and run away. I've been making sure. The children are clean from mass. More your maiden it bothered. They'll surely be dirty again before you even reach the chapel. Don't you mean we has been. You will have to go on without me. I've heard word that. There is a band of aztec rebels hiding in the mountains. It is my duty to take my men and crush them before they have time to rally an army. I'm confused. i thought the seventh day was supposed to be a day for prayer. Sometimes we are called away from prayer to do. The lord's work will. Will you be home for supper. I may be gone a week or more. i expect. We'll spend most of the time chasing them through the wilderness like rabbits. Perhaps you should take us with you. I could translate for you and we could avoid bloodshed. My sweet maria. We do not negotiate with savages. The ones that are left new. There was a choice between salvation and death. They made their choice just as you made yours. These words haunted maria even as she and her children knelt for mass in their modest chapel. She had married a man. She thought had noble ideals though he came from an entirely different land and their people had been at war she had been taught. That marriage is like hers. Would help secure peace but more and more. She suspected that piece was never the goal for men like vasko. He had treated her tenderly at first but she soon realized that this tenderness was not genuine affection. He wanted to be sure he wouldn't break her too soon. Not until he was sure she was tough enough to see his violent side. These sorts of thoughts kept her from focusing whenever she went to pray their priest a franciscan friar named father garcia administered mass passionately. But she barely heard his words and that was before she saw the boy in the chapel. Her i caught on a shadow behind the altar. Not much taller than her eldest son. It skin was wrong where there was once smooth flesh a horrible pattern of crusted bumps made the boy look more like a statue than a person. Maria had seen a condition like this before. But it weren't able to stand up. The infected boy raised a finger to his lips a moment later he was gone almost as if he had never been there. When the service was concluded and the rest of the congregation had dispersed. Maria approached the friar. He smiled pleasantly at her approach. What can i do for you maria. I have a question for you father i. I'm not sure how to ask this. If the wrong person heard me they could say such things. Do not worry. Your words are between you and me alone. I will tell no one. I've done my best to be good to my husband. Our marriages cold. What do i do. Is there any saving our family. My child and glad you came to me. This is not an unusual problem. You should focus on the parts of your marriage that bring you joy. Can you do that. I don't know what about your children my children. If you have no love for your husband serve him for your children's sake. Can i serve a man who has no love for me laughed. How does that make me any better than a slave. Do not think of it as servitude. But as a calling you have a duty to your husband just as we have a duty to our heavenly father you must find happiness in fulfiling that duty. He only happiness. I can imagine a life without him. Maria think of the advantage. Your marriage gives you. Your children will not be seen as refugees of to not plan. They will be christian citizens of nuevo spagna. They will have a better life. Maria thanked father garcia for his advice. She appreciated his heart but new deep within that he could not understand her situation. He did not know what it was like to see his way of life dwindle before his eyes and to sleep next to a man who participated in the slaughter of her people when night finally fell maria could not close her eyes the house seemed strangely lifeless without vasco. But it was a kind of emptiness she liked. She didn't need to hide her sorrow from this sort of emptiness a figure stirred in the doorway. At first she thought it was one of her sons and waited for him to arrive in her bed telling her about some bad dream but it lingered the doorway for only a moment before vanishing back into the outdoors. Maria felt the strangest sensation rising in her chest without any outward sign. She knew that it wanted her to follow maria to her feet and stepped out into the night. The dark was so thick around her. She couldn't see anything in front of her and yet she was sure of where this presence was leading her. It wanted to show her something. She heard the river only a split second before her feet touched the icy water. She recoiled and looked around straining to see anything in the darkness something drifted toward her on the water. It was a figure in white shining with a strange faint glow of its own voice. Reached her ears moaning softly in the breeze a chill ran up maria spine though she had never heard that voice before she knew it. Well the specter that glided down. The river was no vision. It was a visitation from c. Walk who waddell. The goddess understood her pain for she too was in mourning not for a single wasted life but for thousands upon thousands of wasted lives. Maria wanted to run forward and embrace the spirit but she stayed still tears running down her cheeks. Maria awakened by the river. The moon shone high above revealing her to be completely alone by the glistening silver waters or not quite alone. Shadows moved along the horizon. But these weren't ghosts. They held spears and bows in their hands and wore deeply serious expressions. Maria stiffened when she realized that these were the aztec rebels. Her husband had been searching for they had somehow escaped his army and were camped at the mouth of the river coming up thus cool returns home and maria makes a bold attempt for her freedom bloomberg dot coms global news coverage helps. You see the opportunity ahead. As the leading authority global business bloomberg dot com reveals new ways of looking at the most urgent issues facing our world like shifts and technology the role of climate justice and social justice the economic empowerment of women solutions for emerging local economies and more with twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts in more than one hundred twenty bureaus around. 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The so-called snake woman has been described as wandering the countryside weeping and wailing to similar aztec goddesses coldly q. And chaozhou wheatley have been connected to larger orna as well child to whitland was the goddess of waters who would often send floods drown unsuspecting subjects code. Liq- was the mother of the god of war. Wheat ceelo poach -ly like see what Waddell she wonders the world caning in grief in some myths. She even foretold the conquest of mexico by the spanish and the crumbling of the great aztec empire to this foreign onslaught. So maybe ludger doesn't only cry for a pair of drown children. Perhaps she cries for her countless native children. Slain during the conquest those whose voices will remain forever silenced by the writers of history. The crossroads was stained red with blood. Again of men made their way through the carnage blades. Held at the ready at their head was captain vasco this. Saudi arabia vasco was in a foul mood. He had left his village of sunglasses. El salvador to hunt down as tech rebels but only found was a smattering of spanish and portuguese bandits traders worse traders. Who didn't even put up a good fight. A dozen highway men had ambushed them but even with the element of surprise they had fallen within moments before vesco's men before him a wounded bandit crawl the way in the dirt leaving a trail of blood behind him. The fool had tried to attack him with a stolen arche booze only for the musket to backfire in his face. Thus goal followed leisurely. Why would you betray your country. Like this padre. Are you so in need of goal that you join the savages. Answer me honestly. For i am the last face you'll see on this earth with effort. The man turned over and looked up at vasco. His face was mangled burned and cut so that only one. I was still intact. He opened his to speak but all that came from his throat was a choked gurgle. Well i suppose you're last. Words will remain between you and the almighty school raised his sword to finish the man off. The bandit raised his hand and bosco. Paused dangling between the man's bloody fingers was a dagger for a moment vasco almost laughed. It looked like a pitiful gesture of surrender. And then the bandit stabbed the blade downward burying it in moscow's foot vasco kicked out with his other foot rolling the man onto his stomach. Then he brought down his sword slashing into the bandits back over and over the men cried out in pain writhing in the dirt abandoning his co. vasco reach down and pull the knife from his foot with a wince. The mangled bandit mon somehow still alive in spite of his wounds but vasco didn't strike again instead he wiped his sword on his trouser leg and she did breathing heavily. He called out a command to the surrounding soldiers. Leave this that him die. Slowly vasko turned and began to limp back to the horses. He flung the bandits knife. Aside disgust. there was no glory in this victory. He should be home. A detour to mexico. City had delayed their journey and his children would be missing him. He swung himself into his saddle. And winced is injured. Foot banged into its stirrup. He could feel the blood filling his boot but he would not stop for such a minor inconvenience. He had a better life to pursue sunday. They'll salvador remained unchanged in the weeks since he left. He grimaced at the familiar squalor. He needed to get his family to a real city. The life of a conquistador was increasingly unrewarding existence. If there were no native tribes to conquer face of poverty though he dearly wanted to see his children again he did not go straight to his home. He went to the chapel. The modest adobe building the entire mission was structured around father garcia world around unable to hide his shock at the captain's sudden appearance this audio. What a pleasant surprise. Don't bother with the pleasantries monk. Chess let me sit in something that is not a saddle. i never would have thought. I'd missed one of your pews father. Are you here to pray. I am here to rest. I must let myself calm down before i pray. I don't want to say anything. I might regret later. I presume you're already did not go as planned. There is no band of aztec rebels. The rumors were either exaggerated or entirely false care. Not which two weeks of searching. And all i got was a wounded foot and notched sword for my trouble. Your wife will be pleased to hear you return home safely. She'll be less pleased when she hears what comes next. But that's why i came to you first father. I'm not sure i understand. I've seen how you look at. My wife might beautiful native wife come tomorrow morning. She may be yours. You should go home. Clean your wound. Stop talking foolishness. It is no foolishness. Father listen to me carefully. Tomorrow i will take the children and go to koyo on. There is a lady there of spanish breath who i will marry and raise my children in a proper way but maria is your wife. Oh you poor fool do you know. She still praised the aztec. I hear her mother their names in her sleep. How can our marriage be legitimate. If conversion was not genuine garcia fell silent. his hands trembled vasco grinned mirthless. He enjoyed seeing the self righteous man so distressed but that was not his goal. I need you to convince her to stay behind. While i leave. You cannot expect me to do. This can tie. You've made a tidy career out of getting savages to forsake the things. They hold dear. She's no different. Bosco stood and padded garcia on the shoulder with a grunt. He limped back toward the doorway. He had a family to see. Maria was still haunted by her dream from two weeks past. The visions had been horrible. A boy ravaged by smallpox and spectral woman in white but they had not inspired fear in her. The woman was the goddess c. Walk waddell a patron of motherhood. Maria knew that if the gods of her childhood survived. Maybe there was hope for her. Maybe she wouldn't vanish nameless -ly into what. Her husband called nueva espana as for what she would do about her husband. She hadn't decided father garcia told her that he was her one. Chance for a good life in this new world but putting all your hopes in one man seemed like a foolish notion to her especially when that one man made his living in blood vasco burst through the door with no warning. His armor was no longer shiny and his tunic was stained in several places with mud and gore. He leaned heavily on his left foot and his right boot appeared to be torn. Mia more help me with my boot. are you injured. It will heal. I just need your help cleaning and binding it before i go to a proper surgeon. Maria helped her husband wriggle out of his soaked boot. it already smelled of wrought. The injury itself looked horrible. The soft flesh between boss goes toes had been split asunder leaving his big toe dangling off the side of his foot. How did this happen. I encountered that band of aztec rebels had to thirty men strong at least against our small band. Five of them set upon me and i best them all. This wound was a small price to pay for the safety of new web espana. The story made maria pause. It seemed impossible. That her husband had encountered the same group of aztec warriors. She had seen the other night band as far as she knew. Were still camped in wait at the mouth of the river. If her husband had fought a different band that meant that the resistance was stronger than even spanish rumors might claim. A spark of hope blossomed in her chest though. She was careful not to let it show on her face. Are you planning to go to a city for your doctor. Of course can't find a decent surgeon here. it's a long ride. Perhaps i can apply some of my own medicine to your injury. You were never medicine woman true. But i'll women tend not it. Line were taught certain skills in the case of household injuries. You don't have the skill to repair this kind of wound. No no not repair husband just preserve it so that it will survive the journey to the nearest city. Maria bit her tongue. Of course not a word of what she said was true. She had no real medical knowledge but she counted on her husband's prejudices to blind him to this fact in vasco split foot. She had seen an opportunity. He was a cruel man a warrior and a killer. Those things were clear to her. A wound like this could mean death if handled improperly. She would not be blamed if he died a warrior's death. What do you say me. I'm on very well but only if you explain to me step by step what you are doing. of course. My love alive keeps no secrets from her husband. Maria addressed vasco injury and applied a number of crushed herbs to the bloody gash. Before tying it up she made up names for them in her native language and told him what they were supposed to do. In truth they were all plants. Her parents had told her to stay away from he would never return from his trip to the city and she could take their children wherever she wanted for. Once in her life marinas future was looking brighter than her past up next maria and bosko's plans for the future collide if the thought of the holidays coming up makes you tired for your bed. Then listening out casper's black. Friday sale has up to thirty percent off of everything. You need to make any place of rest. A place of dreams weighted blankets for the so low sleepers dog beds for your furry soulmate bed frame made with premium felted wool for the sophisticates in your life and of course supportive mattresses that align your spine so you wake up in a better mood and the night before but don't use on this casper's black friday sale is on now for a limited time. 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She would be his primary interpreter during their conquest and his lover referred to as dona marina by the spanish. Her diplomatic skill commanded a great deal of respect from spaniards and indigenous mexicans alike. Her son martine. Cortez was one of the first mess. Teeth os or people of mixed mexican and european ancestry and sometime in the late. Fifteen twenty s. She completely vanished from history. Her fate remains a mystery lost to time. Maria watched as her husband played with their children. He was stumbling about with his bandaged. Foot reenacting his triumphant fight against the savages. Who nearly cut his foot off. She had to force herself to stay silent. And not point out the many flaws in his obviously exaggerated story. The children would forget in time. His poorly dressed foot wound would fester and before he could even reach a doctor in mexico city. He'd be dead of infection. Maria was not a murderer like him and she comforted herself with the knowledge that she had not caused his injury. His god might not understand her actions but perhaps her gods would the gods. She signed her dreams understood her far better than the god on the cross. She was hanging the children's clothes out to dry. When a familiar figure approached her father garcia she blinked and surprise this was the farthest she'd ever seen him come from the chapel. Maria i've been looking for you. Can we talk for to support the father better. What do you want with me. I have heard a disturbing rumor. And i wanted your assurance that is not true. What rumors this. I've heard you still pray to pagan gods. The gods of your ancestors. Is this true. father. I have no shrines to them. I make no sacrifices. Just ask going husband. I have he says you mutter their names in your sleep. This is absurd. Words uttered and sleep are not prayers. But they do show a certain hesitance of spirit. Come with me. Why i need to begin your education. Your soul is in jeopardy. Maria but together. We will lead you to salvation. Maria cast a glance back to her husband and children vasco had been joined by two broad men members of his gang of conquistadors. He pointed toward her and her heart fell. This was no idle accusation. They were trying to take her away from her children francisco. The men were upon her before she could say another syllable. They quickly dragged her to the chapel. Get your hands off me. What are you doing it. Pains me to say this maria but your children deserve a mother who lives by christian values to trust you. See i thought you were innocent. Fool with an open heart. But i you clearly now. You're just evil as my husband. I'm sorry no one will hurt you in here and tomorrow will begin. You re education the men through maria into the chapel and shut the doors. She crouched in the corner and wept vasco would take her children to mexico city and soon they would not even know her name as daylight dwindled and the candles inside burned low. Maria finally decided to but not to the god who loomed above her on the cross. Cr quavo i. I have never spoken to you before. Please hear me now. I have no sacrifice to give you a few free me from this mission. I will be in your debt. Sandra this salvador can be your sacrifice. I will give this entire village to you if you let me see my children. They are nothing but murderers and cowards. Here take vengeance for your children. The sound of the church bell ringing shattered. Marinas prayer cries of panic. Rose from outside the chapel and then they transformed into screams. Maria could not see what was happening but she smiled all the same. Vengeance had come for this mission. The chapel doors flung open knocking maria onto her back in the doorway stood father garcia. His eyes were wide base pale with shock. The priests stumbled forward wavering. Strangely on his feet not paying any attention to maria he made his way straight for the altar. Maria gasped to see arrows protruding from his side. His robe was soaked through with blood. One of the shafts had pierced straight through his palm spirit tucson garcia reached the altar and grasped desperately at the cross behind it but his fingers could not reach a moment later. He fell knocking over the nearby candles. Fire and man reached the floor at the same time but only one of them rose again. The pews caught quickly consumed by the growing inferno. Maria gave little thought to the fate of father garcia. She turned and ran the attack. That vasco had been warned of had finally come sandra. Del salvador was in chaos. Men and women ran. Every which way stumbling over bodies soldiers in partial armor charged like wounded beasts through fray seeking an attacker that knew the land better than they spears and arrows lashed from the shadows and in the distance of figure in white watched. Maria made her way straight for her home keeping to the edges of the violence. The burning chapel was all the lights she needed to see by. She found vasco fighting by their home. Blade against spear blood ran down his face from a cut on his forehead but he seemed far from beaten. his blade. whistle bid into his opponent's chest but maria wouldn't focus efforts on that man. She was there for her children at none and francisco cowered inside their home tears. Streaking their cheeks. Maria swept them up into her arms. Come with me mec-. They won't hurt us. She took them out the back of their house and away from the battle. Her feet stung and her breath burned in her chest but she did not stop until she reached the river. The one place she felt safe. I need both of you to be quiet being since. When are they ever been quiet. Maria world around bosko appeared through the weeds behind them sword dangling from his limp arm. He raised the crimson blade at her. You make this happen. You call your savage kin to attack us. I cannot take credit for the destruction. You so willingly coverted francisco at non gone to your father. They will not silence that the children make their own choice. Maria felt something pulling at her hands. She looked down francisco head taken two steps toward his father and was trying to wriggle his hand. Free of hers at non was doing the same when she met there is. She saw only fear what had their father told them about her people. How had he sold such distrust in innocent minds. Maria thanks tears swimming in her eyes. Bosco had one they would grow up to be citizens of nueva espana with no pride or respect for the people who came before they would become little versions of their murderous father. There was nothing she could do to hurt him. Nothing except cnbc. Maria took her children and forced them beneath the surface. They thrashed against her but she held fast tears. Roll down her cheeks. But she kept her gaze fixed on bosco. She had been baptized for her husband. That's all this was another. Baptism vasco cried out in rage and horror. He stumbled towards her but was not fast enough. His mangled foot slowed him too much by the time he reached her. Both of their children were still. He raised his blade and slashed across her throat. Maria sank into the dark waters without protest. Let the energy drain from her limbs and turned her eyes downward she wanted to catch at least one last glance of her children before she expired but the children's bodies were gone she absolutely wondered if they had been washed downstream or if see waku waddell had taken them and then the waters closed over her head and she was numb when she rose again. She was clad in white and the world around her was gray. Sanga salvador was no more burned to the ground but she had no difficulty finding her husband. Bosco had made his way to mexico city but his foot had become infected and had to be amputated before he reached it every step of the way she cried for her lost children. The day vasco died was the one day she did. Not weep. Donnas presence is everywhere in mexican culture. She appears in folksongs. Stage plays artwork television and cinema. This influence has extended to the united states of america where immigrant communities brought ladder not to a new level of prominence in two thousand nineteen alone. There were two prominent motion. Pictures centered around the figure of donna. Stories of laurent are separated into two varieties. and quinn. throw and estonia the end quinn throw. Tales are first person accounts of the banshee and east odia tales. Explain her origin. The social dynamics in the east odia vary sometimes is an indigenous woman whose children are taken by their spanish father who wishes to marry someone of his own race and other times. The differences economic. Maria is spanish but of lower social status than her romantic rival. Like many folk figures lied or not can be re purposed for whatever social needs. The teller of the story wants to convey it could be a run of the mill. Go story or a historical melodrama about the cruelty of imperialism and racism. There is no one lied orna. She is a mexican housewife lama. Lynch and see walker waddell and she will never be silent even if she never find her children for the rest of time she will stalk the land some nights when close to the border. You can almost hear her sobbing whispering. Thanks again for tuning into mythology will be back tuesday with a new episode. You can find more episodes of mythology and all other park has two originals for free on spotify. not only to spotify already. Have all of your favorite music. But now spotify's making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals. Like mythology for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream mythology on spotify. Just open the app and type mythology in the search bar. If you enjoy mythology you'll love my other podcast. Tails tales presents fairytales. the way they were originally told orally and created traditional fairy. Tales aren't exactly suitable for children and every wednesday we dive into another dark classic tale. We'll be back on tuesday. With another epic story mythology was created by max cutler at his apar- cast studios original executive producers. Include max and ron cobbler. Sound design by. Michael lang's ner with assistance by ron shapiro carly madden and isabella way. This episode of mythology was written by robert team. Stra with writing. Assistance by greg castro. The amazing cast of voice actors includes tiana camacho joe hernandez and dan velazquez. I'm vanessa richardson. Thanks for listening if you enjoyed this episode and want to hear more. Remember to follow mythology free on spotify. Or you get your podcasts. New episodes air weekly every tuesday.

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