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How We Organize Communities with Jennifer Epps-Addison

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How We Organize Communities with Jennifer Epps-Addison

"Mariah how you feeling feeling hell. That's right just like last week. Yes and welcome to episode twelve of how we win. We are celebrating celebrating our election. Day Wins People like you stepped up to knock on doors make phone calls write letters. Donate money and we're not going to lie. It feels good as Al to get those winds spat that's right we showed trump and gop. The blue wave is only getting stronger so we can celebrate. But we can't stop and we want you to join the party today. We have a great conversation with the President and CO Executive Director of the Center for Popular Democracy Jennifer. EPS Addison. Jen's life's work is advancing campaigns for economic onomic and racial justice. She talks about how we can build lasting change by supporting the organisations were in the trenches of communities. Our political system often leaves behind. Then we'll get a field report from Kentucky and hear what flipping. The governor's mansion might mean for Mitch McConnell and the Republicans and Twenty Twenty I'm Steve Pearson Mariah Craven and this is how we win as a reminder might feel like so much has happened since now and last Tuesday night when we declared some victories around the country so it's good to have that reminder how good it feels when when we do the work and win Yup we were talking about it that feeling that we had in two thousand sixteen when trump was elected and then the feeling we had after the midterms in two thousand eighteen we want more of that second kind of feeling and we got some and we also talked about how these elections Shinzo bellwether for what's going on with our activists energy right now right so is encouraging but we want to keep that momentum going yeah yeah and I think that it will continues to. I think it's just building and what's so amazing is to have an off year election that people got so involved in turnout. Cornell was huge for off year. Yeah Yeah Yeah and then I think everybody was particularly excited to see Julie Brisk men and get a win last Tuesday Julia Brisk men was the woman who while riding on her bicycle gave the Middle Finger. The bird heard as we call it to president trump and his motorcade and in lost her job right was fired because of that and she just one A local office in Virginia senior in a district where trump has golf course still have lots more opportunities. A woman angered with a lot of new Time Warner and that was a dangerous thing for them. Yeah but it was good for us. So congratulations to her and all of the other candidates who will be taking office. I At the beginning of the year. And I'M GONNA give a bigger break down on all of what we did and the strategy behind it and how we're GonNa apply that to twenty twenty a little bit later. Yeah can't wait to hear the about the path we have moving forward excited and of course it's must see tv time open impeachment hearings. Yeah this is going to be pretty incredible. Public impeachment hearings begin on Wednesday. When this when this podcast cast airs they'll be kicking up Continuing on Friday. The Nixon impeachment was the first big televised impeachment The Clinton Clinton impeachment was at the dawn of the Internet age. And now we have this impeachment where you're going to be able to follow along long no matter where you are. What what device? You're on where whether you're at home or in your car everybody's GonNa be showing everybody is going to be weighing in with Feedback yeah and and it's really important for public opinion. It's important that these people are making their testimony As you said everywhere era people are going to be watching it. This isn't so much for the Republicans senators to make up their minds because clearly their minds already made up but if public sentiment it can support this strongly enough if the case can be made for the public then maybe we can put some pressure on those senators especially the ones in these tricky states. Where we're trying to get the mountain twenty twenty and we'll see? Yeah everybody WHO's testifying publicly. This week has already testified privately behind closed doors transcripts have come out and so we kind of have an idea of what they're going to say but this really is a reminder that we can put a lot of pressure on folks and that's the that's why the Democrats are opening up testimony. That's frankly already been heard is now we get to see and here for ourselves what these folks have been saying. And so we're going to be hearing from George Kent and Bill Taylor who was the former ambassador ambassador and top. US diplomat in Ukraine who Had A lot to say about firsthand knowledge of the events surrounding the phone. Call all in July that kicked all of this off. That's right and Last week's episode with Harley Rueda. He talks about what they've already seen behind closed doors is it's not just about this one one phone call one statement that trump made but it's this coordinated you know bribery. Plot really coordinate plot. That happened way okay. Before that phone call leading up to the phone call and then all the cover up. That's happened since so it's GonNa be interesting going to be a lot of. Yeah George. Ken is a Deputy Assistant Secretary of state. And he's going to testify a lot about rudy. Giuliani trump's personal lawyer who appears to have been running a shadow foreign policy arm that the State Department was not always aware of and not. I'm not doing the things that the State Department would have recommended Rudy's lawyered up because he's been quiet we just had a weekend of Of really like like non defenses from Republicans going on all the talk shows not really with a unified message. You know Just trying to integrate again not having much to say about the actual events but rudy's Rudy's nowhere he's he has usually count it to be to put out some bat. Shit crazy statements that he he likes EXCH- jumping out and get and getting on TV. He's managed to not butt dial reporters for a few days. So yeah so some. Maybe somebody took his phone away. Hey from him. He's made a few mistakes without phone he's been sequestered a and then on Friday. Marie Ianovich the former former US ambassador to Ukraine. Who still works at the State Department by the way is going to be testifying About the smear campaign that basically boosted her out of The ambassadorship before this phone call happened. But she was pushing back against against these requests that were being made for Ukraine to investigate Biden said before the phone call even happened. She was already out but she can let us know like how far in advance these Requesting conversations happening. Yeah and she's a career diplomat who've been in that position through multiple administrations and and Has a lot of insight all right. Let's move onto our reasons for hope. Oh there's a there's an audio thank you for this pneumonic Oh right. That's what those are called. But listen this lightens things up which I really like because I I love this week's reasons for hope the first is our our Chicago teachers who went on strike and got what they asked for and the kids went on strike with them to some at some points right it lasted fifteen days and they reached a new five year agreement with the city and we always stand in solidarity with our unions in our workers and especially especially our teachers who when they demand higher wages and smaller class sizes and nurses and Librarians and social workers. And those kind of things. We should give that to our schools in our teachers. These resources. That shouldn't you know be under threat so Chicago teachers. Congratulations and our second reason for hope reason for hope number two thanks to rapid population growth in automatic voter-registration over three three hundred and fifty thousand people have signed up to vote in the last eleven months. That's awesome. It's incredible the only flag about that is in Georgia. They're looking to purge people from the voter rolls. Shorjah Georgia Ma. Just when we have a good thing happened there is Georgia to try to pull it away from us. But against Stacey Abrams and fair fight right twenty twenty and all that are doing some great work so we'll continue to support for those organizations and make sure that those voters get back on the rolls out there the Republicans purge them right so our work never stops with just voter registration shen. I mean that's a tremendous milestone but voter protection And being aware and raising flags when we see voter suppression are really important components of this as well Yep and then number one reason for hope. It's Virginia we both the the House of delegates and the Senate we now have the TRIFECTA in Virginia. And this is how we WANNA feel after an election right. Yeah feels pretty good. I'm going to share some some key points for it first of all thank you guys. Thank you everyone who volunteered and In knocked on doors made phone calls. Yes you folks did amazing amazing work and for the first time in twenty-six Years Virginia Democrats control the TRIFECTA and and we're finally have a chance to ratify the equal rights amendment been working on that since nineteen seventy two so We can throw out these racially gerrymandered maps that are drawn by Republicans. We're GONNA be able to draw fair lines after the census this this is the the crux of why these local legislatures are. So so important. You helped elect the first Muslim American woman to the Virginia State Legislature Slater Gonzala Hashmi Senate district ten and fourteen Democrats that were endorsed by MOMS demand. Action like Nancy Guy House district eighty three one and Nancy won by only eighteen votes eighteen votes. So that's I mean really validation that every single person that you talked to makes a huge difference so that's giving me goosebumps. That's so close. That is one volunteer like they. They could have knocked on those eighteen doors. Right it's it's it's amazing. Yeah exactly So here's a look at how we can pull off even bigger wins and twenty twenty out of a hundred forty Virginia seats up for election. We focused our efforts on the twenty most competitive races using data driven state date focused expertise with our flippable team which had just joined swing less family earlier this year. We analyzed all the results of Presidential Statewide State Ledge Edge elections to identify fifteen house a delegate targets and five states Senate targets across northern Virginia Richmond Hampton roads the whole area in the end eighty nine percent of grassroots dollars. And seventy six percent of our voter turnout. Letters went to support. Democrats in races decided by single digit Jin margins so the targeting was really effective. We found those places that we're going to be really tight races and then we used our volunteer energy. Gee you're volunteer dollars to make sure we won by you know single digit margins and many of those races. This is how you know that this is worth your time and investment when you see each Results like this exactly flipped eight. Republican seats held six vulnerable Seats Including House District Ninety Four. That was the the one in in two thousand seventeen that was decided by drawing a name from a hat because it was a tie and the strategy was here was twofold. We raise money for our twenty candidates to help build their campaigns and smartly disperse later funding to the ones that need it. The most this was really really effective in the numbers are pretty amazing. We sent two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to the candidates through our FL Virginia Fund this summer when they were still so hiring their staff and building up their infrastructure in the fall at. They're looking at the numbers. We dispersed three hundred forty one thousand via our immediate impact packed fund close those fundraising gaps in boost lagging campaigns In total swing left and flippable donors. Volunteers raise an incredible eight hundred sixty three thousand dollars for Virginia candidates. That's almost six times. The cost of an average average St Leger race. That's impressive pretty impressive. So together with volunteers from other great organizations like Sister District Daily Coast pantsuit suit nation. Emily's list vote forward stand up America in Citizens United Virginia Young Democrats College Democrats and more. You all turned up in mass and you turned out. Virginia voters. Volunteers helped get democratic voters to the polls in three big ways. I sending handwritten letters to Virginia voters and then by knocking on doors and of course by making phone calls to voters so we worked with the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee the Virginia Democratic Party and and the campaigns themselves to point those efforts into the best places where they would have the most impact. All all. You wrote two hundred and twenty nine thousand letters knocked on eighty eight thousand doors and made thirty nine thousand calls to help. Virginia voters vote by working together. We help Democrats. When a total of fourteen of our twenty target races and flip the Virginia legislature blue? Every door knocked letter written call made and dollar raise made a difference and we can't wait to do it again in twenty twenty. This all really is how we you win. I WanNa tell you about another podcast. I'm loving called the Brown girl's guide to politics from wonder media. This podcast is all about amplifying. The voices of women who are too often forgotten in most media coverage it's the one stop op shop for women of Color. Who WanNa hear talk about the world of politics in season? One host Ashanti Goeller spoke with women like Stacey Abrams who are changing changing. The face of politics now Ashanti's back for season two bringing women of color to the frontlines of politics. This season is all about service overcoming. We're coming barriers and understanding how to make positive changes to our everyday lives by taking a stand catch season. Two of the Brown girls guide to politics wherever ever. You get your podcasts Jennifer. EPS Addison is is the president and CO Executive Director of the Center for Popular Democracy. Jennifer has over fifteen years of community organizing experience advancing campaigns for economic and racial justice. That includes helping. Coordinate the fight for fifteen campaign to raise the federal minimum wage Jennifer's committed to supporting and growing black led organizations and building power in communities of Color and organizing strategies with the white working class by addressing racism. Head on JEN. Thank you for taking the time to talk to us. Thank you so much for having me is actually a really great way to spend your day when you get off a plane. 'CAUSE YOU WANNA try to readjust to the time difference and so rather then like taking a nap. I get to come and talk with. I don't know I feel bad because I really like my nap. So that I'll just like not sleep tonight tonight and my kids will have early basketball games and I will be miserable because I stayed up all night. This is. I'm telling you this is actually really good for me and from New York you just got back I why did what were you doing in New York. Oh we were filming. The last of our interviews with presidential candidates are network is getting ready to make an endorsement in the Democratic primary. Hi Mary and you know I have to say it was an incredibly powerful and moving experience to watch people who never thought presidential candidates would care what they have to say really owned power in a room not just telling their stories but trying to ask the types of questions that get the heart of the differences between the candidates. We've got a really tough decision to make and so to be able to sit one on one or in this case one on thirty with a presidential candidate for an hour and a half and grill them. You know. It's going to be very instructive for our membership in our network. I think is this the first time that you all have done this for a presidential election. It absolutely is. It's actually the first time we've ever done any cross geography massive endorsement like this Typically our state and local affiliates will make an endorsement and when they think it is kind of a movement candidate the date the type of candidate where people from all across the country should be there supporting them like Stacey Abrams for example when she was running for governor of Georgia They'll reach out to us and they'll say hey. CPI Network can you mobilize with us. And so that's when we would make an endorsement In a race and so for the network to now say we WANNA make an intervention invention in this presidential race. Where concerned about you know the the conversation that the that the left that I'm doing air quotes you? They can see in your voice you know. We're we're concerned about the conversation that the left is having in particular as it relates to blackened and my next voters and so we think it's important for us to actually step into this moment end to try to help lead to a future where we're looking at a country that actually reflects us where we all are included where we all voice rather than you know going back to kind of the status quo politics event previous administrations which you know to be quite honest. a did not live up to the promise that they made to our communities when we turned out and voted for them. We have a historically diverse group of presidential essential candidates does do the candidates of color come in within edge in these types of conversations. Do they get held to a different standard Um That's really a great question. I mean I I will say this. That it is critically important that we elect more people of Color in particular women have colored off That the you can see it in the squad you can see it. In the way that they've inspired folks all over this country to step up and become activists to be to put ourselves on the line to participate in our democracy and they got a great name. We all get to be honest. Yes I'm definitely a part of this quad I wanna be in But you can see the impact that it makes so I think that is absolutely important and I am grateful to the incredible organizations like she. The people in higher heights who are training candidates and getting new candidates have colored to run at the at the same time. Though I mean look I'm I'm from from. Maybe it's a little old school but you know I'll Skim Fokin Kinfolk right and to me you know. It's like look if Connie West decides that he wants to run for Senator California. No I think he said he was going to run for president just just a few yesterday or a couple of days ago and then he'll be US anyway on you. If Connie was decided he wanted to run for Senate. You know that is not a candidate. I'm supporting porting. That is not a candidate who's looking at our people and who trusts us to understand what's best for us and who listens to what we need and I think that's like the the real issue in this election is do we trust folks of color I particularly. Do we trust black women because if we did we would look at where where they're putting their energy. We would look at the insane in huge amount of free Labor that they provide to try to protect our democracy and save our democracy in every election and we would actually follow their lead And so yeah. I think that that is not just because folks are people of color right does not mean that they're the type of candidate that is going to be best by and large for the majority of black folks are Brown folks are immigrants or poor folks right require folks in this country. You still need to look at people's record you still need to look at the policies that they're offering you still need to look at when they have been called right out in in when they made a mistake. How do they respond? You know I think. Each of none of these candidates A. Perfect and each of them have been caught in their own moments of tension on the campaign. What was their response to that? How did they take? You know the idea that they don't know everything and that they have something to learn from people who are upset about something they've done and how did they take that and then flip it around. I think those are the types of questions are members are asking because we're regular people and we're poor folk and where Brown fog and we're black book. We know. Oh people lie right like we know candidates lie. We've known it our whole lives. We've experienced our whole lives so we're not going into this election blindly. We're not going into to this election with any blind loyalty to a candidate or party. I think where most people are at right now are going into this election saying I have a different vision for this. This country than the trump administration and a different vision than Democrats have allowed to come out during our big presidential elections in the past. How do I use my voice to to make sure that that's not what happens? This time around. We cannot afford a repeat of two thousand sixteen. Were too many people including people who needed to become new voters were completely -pletely turned off by the process right. I think we should go back for people who don't know what the Sapphire Popular Democracy we should and I won't have like a million followers to what you just said but just for people who aren't familiar with the Center for Popular Democracy in the work that you guys do Tell us about it. Yeah so In our organization. CPT Action which is our political arm. We are a network of grassroots community organizations. We call ourselves people's institutions because the memberships governor organizations. They tell us what we do. How we act how we move issues? We work on You know it's an exciting time because our network network is growing and so we now have a fifty four affiliates in thirty four states well the Rico and Washington DC We partner with with groups in Alaska. Who are running recall? Campaigns against their governor groups in Washington DC who are setting up healthy You know birth to the three infrastructure in in the city for low income parents we work with groups all up and down the east coast. Who are taking on on You know banks in the profiteers and getting them one by one to stop financing private detention centers for immigrants right. These are just incredible credible organizations that started with a few people who were having an experience of isolation or fear or terror in some cases and looked for support what they found was a community organization that had their back and they learn that through collective action. We can actually change a whole lot of things in this country And so you know that that kind of grew from that local level to joining up in the states and then building across regions. And then now you know this network has decided they want to work as a national national powerhouse for progressive change and I get to be one of the people who gets told what to do and and hopefully most days most days. I'm doing the people what to do. You know every once in a while but I think you know hopefully most days. I'm doing the things that these organizations who are on the front lines need to just have the space to do what they do. You know they talk about following leads you know. We have to follow the lead of people on the ground who are in these communities who understands what it actually takes just to create change long term. So we're just really trying to create a national infrastructure that helps support that. How how did you first of all you get started doing that? Like what Whoa. Let's go back origin. Story is this. This may become a therapy session. Let's do this tissues right there. So oh I grew up in Milwaukee Wisconsin which last week was named the worst day are the worst city in America to be black. And I get these all confused because Wisconsin has been named the worst state in America to raise a black child. And you know it's it's very Interesting place because it's the home of dichotomies right and so in the you know span where you have it being the worst literally the worst place for black folks in the country it is also one of the best for white people has one of the best quality of life outcomes for White folks right eight and you know the place where progressivism progressive politics was born right. Wisconsin is also the home of McCarthyism Bait and and that type of an incredible authoritarian suppression. And so you know. I grew up in this duality. And it's a it's a state. I love in claim but I think what I realized realized from an early age. Is that even though you know out really I'm queer. I'm a woman I'm black. You know I have this connection to the struggle against white supremacy and gender oppression and patriarchy but I also carried a lot of privilege. You Know I. I grew up in a mixed race family which meant I got to learn how to talk. White eight people very helpful you know. I don't recommend doing all the time but you know it is very helpful to kind of be only thing now you know so. I grew up in a middle class family. I grew up with both of my parents together. I had a set of protections around me so that when I was a normal child and experimenting with life and learning my boundaries when I screwed up I had a force field around me to help me yeah get through that and survived that and so I recognize that You know early around fifteen or sixteen before that I was kind of a terror but at some point hey other kids would end up in jail and I just got to transfer schools like this. You know there's something here And I remember very poignantly. Our governor was trying at that time. Shutdown Milwaukee public schools which is the largest school district in the state majority children of Color and students began to organize against it. And I was like I don't know what organizing is just like whatever they want to walk out with us. The governor is trying to screw us and I was like well. That sounds fun. Okay so we org has this big walkout against the governor's budget and we shut down his office and we occupied his office and he ended up backing off of his plan. And and and we won you know and that was sort of my first taste of organizing like oh when you're upset and you know things aren't right. There's usually a reason for it and you can do something in about it And I would have never looked back from that. I count myself as an organizer my entire life from that very first action that I helped to Put on and even as I dabbled in the lie was I became a public defender. I quickly realized that actually organizing is the place I want to put my energy to. I remember this is sort of the very specific thing that brought me back from law. School debt is real but I was in court worked with one of my clients and he was young man was seventeen. He was effectively homeless. He was couch surfing and because he wasn't going to school he was on probation right. He got probation so the condition of his probation as you go sign up for your ged. So he goes to that. In the intake the woman doing intake walks away. She leaves her purse sitting out on the desk. And it's open and he can see the money inside and he's hungry so he grabs a twenty well. Of course. She knows exactly what happened. He he gets reported to his Peo- PEO- calls. Did you do this right away. Says I did it. I'm sorry I was hungry. I went to McDonald's. I've got fourteen dollars left. Don't give it back to you. Please don't promote me. So he he gets a new charge new charge for theft hundred dollars cash bail. He's in jail for months waiting to see the judge. I get the district turning to say time served I get the PO to agree to release the hold. This kid's coming home finally right after sitting in jail for months for six dollars while the judge says I'm not accepting in your plea and so I asked to be heard on bail and I kid you not. He said if your client doesn't have ten friends he will give him ten dollars so that he can get out of jail. Maybe maybe he deserves to sit in jail and that was the moment where I knew this. I can't actually be a part of this system like my need to dedicate my life to transforming this system because that is not the mistake that is how the system is designed to say that people who don't have access to money don't deserve their freedom and that's just not okay with me well so so you got out of that cycle and started doing something about it so now we're back to all the great work you're doing and you talked about some in different ways that local groups get involved What what are some of the actions? I mean. Obviously you you were involved in the fight for fifteen I know you involved in inviting the tax scam and saving our healthcare. You were very instrumental in that which like your actions are affiliates are powerful? I have to say I will say on the local level. Our affiliates are running campaigns to you know for wages and benefits to increase the minimum wage to win fair scheduling link to win paid sick days and paid family medical leave You know they're trying to transform the criminal legal system at the local level up and so in Milwaukee Walkie for example Our affiliate as part of a group called liberate Milwaukee that is trying to divest twenty five million dollars from the Milwaukee Police Department. The police department gets more than fifty percent of the entire city budget. Just going to policing this is the type of work. They're doing. Everyday they find a problem. They figure out who has the power to give them what they want and they go out there and they organize for it they also have to win elections to do that and a lot of people think. Oh you're in a progressive city like New York or L. A.. Or whatever it might be Milwaukee you know that Oh it's easier Democrats control your city. Lulu reality. Is that for a lot of people of color. The Democrats control their cities are not their friends and are the ones who are increasing. Police budgets every year while you know cutting budgets for basic public services right. They're making those choices that go against the needs of our community And so you know. Organizing on local and state elections has been a huge focus of our network and we see the results of that in the light and just this past week. Virginia flipped both their citizen and their house. Our affiliate new Virginia majority has been organizing year round for years years building. The type of power needed to make victory like that happen right. Thank you for that amazing work shot up and I think what you're getting at. What is the key to organizing that people might overlook when they first get involved in this sort of thing? which is that? This a lot of work happens ends ahead of elections and on election day but then the work doesn't stop. Your influence has to continue and you have to not only be ready for the next election but light beholding the people that get elected accountable. Absolutely I think we always say you know. Democracy is not voting on election day right the democracy is actually everything thing we do inbetween election days. That helps build our power and exercise our voice like that's what democracy is why we call ourselves popular democracy right this idea. That an activated engaged sustained base of people are are coming together are deciding collectively are sharing power amongst against each other and and really just bring everyone from the margins into the center to think about. How do we make sure everyone can have the best life so you know? I think that is exciting. We're we're seeing. It happen all over the country. I mean I felt really good after election day. I know a lot of people did But I don't think we can rest on that. What what I see In the Donald Trump reelection campaign is enough to terrify anyone. And there's a couple of keys to it right so so one is a is a rider debase Now black women have been the writer database of the Democratic Party for a long time. We're not getting her hus- desserts now. Trump's rider diabetes. They're getting everything they're asking for you. He understands in a way. Democrats don't seem to you that actually moving things and talking about the things that you're rider dies care about a such a disappointingly. Good Point Truth it is just so he's got the writer dies. Okay you know. The next thing that he has is is a I mean I. I don't credit him with this. But the people behind him holding him up right And maybe we'll it could be capitalism actually when I explain this A.. And the concept of micro targeting so trump is a master micro tiger and what it means is his. He is spending more on social media than all of the democratic challengers calendar. Come by Moore. And he's not doing three ads. That are running on every single you know potentially conservative place. He's doing very specific ads ads for very specific communities for example he's running ads targeting young black men right saying he is the criminal justice reform candidate and that black isn't that the Democrats care more about quote unquote illegal immigrants than they do about the police violence against black people. Not only. He's he's coupling pulling these ads right. These social media ads with paying canvassers blackmail canvassers in Philip places like Philadelphia to go knock those same doors and and bring that message to the doors so he is on the ground talking to win buying that bullshit yes and we should be afraid. I mean in some ways. It's not quite bullshit and I think that's the thing that he's latching onto and that's the thing. Democrats have to understand right and and I will say this. You know I've I I count myself as a progressive You know most Li Ye vote Democrat unless I get the opportunity about working families party or some other. You know whatever But this party has not come to terms with whether or not it wants to be majority people of Color Party. It is is not come to terms with whether or not it wants to be a party that fights for people who are marginalized. We have to make that decision. The corporate wing of the Party is going to have to decide. Does it only like gay people or black people you know when we are consuming and buying their products addicts and making them rich so they want to be you know they're gonNA put us in their ads and they want us to be happy enough that we keep consuming or is the corporate wing going to decide. Actually I'm going to like them in a very railway in a way that improves their lives. In a way that takes me and my profit margins out of the equation and actually sets up structures that are rooted. And what's best for people right and and you know if they can't come to terms with those things then our party can't be unified so all of this questioning about. How do we unify the party thing? We have to understand that. I'm not gonNA unify myself with somebody who would see people exploited. Who would stand against you? You know domestic workers and care workers in home care workers like the ones who are taking care of my father right now Stay in poverty. Despite the fact that they're providing incredibly incredibly important work to our economy. You know I'm not gonNA lie myself with somebody who will consistently tell me that you know just comply. Am Be respectful. So you don't get killed by police right like that's just not the future that I'm fighting for well what you're talking about and it's what you consistently assistant. We work on. Is that intersection of of racism and economic inequality which is what makes our country. What it is is the bad and the powerful absolutely but it's also hard to talk about dismantling that for those very reasons? So how are we as the Democratic family for lack of a better word. How do we have those conversations? How do we have those conversations? One on one with the people in our lives. Yeah I mean we're seeing candidates have them now and it's be I think it's because of the role. Social movements have played and really electoral ising are issues Now I think the more than half of almost half of the Democratic candidates support the green new deal. You know almost half support Medicare for all you know. We couldn't have said this just even four years ago. I think that you know the Progressive Wing of the Party delivering and winning on election results. The local level up is sending a clear message to candidates about what it's going to take particularly when you're talking about statewide vote counts and not just congressional districts right so I think that's a big piece of it that you know the other thing. Is You know going back to this. Idea of micro targeting that trump is doing you know it is not a suggestion that you change who you are or your values that you deliver right. That's actually not what's happening but it is a suggestion that you take seriously seriously enough. The issues that impact people's lives that you're willing to look into them and understand that those issues are different for different people and that so you can actually speak directly to the issues that matter most to various communities so it's not just telling people what you think they wanna hear obviously be be be yourself be authentic but understand that your view is not someone else's view and be willing to meet them where they are and listen and and listen. I don't I don't want us to become trump in the pursuit of power. Like that is actually the exact opposite of what black and Brown people are asking for right like we are asking for us to imagine a world that does not yet exist. We're asking for us to imagine a world where all of us have the freedom to thrive right. We're asking you know for folks who can easily imagine agree new deal or Medicare for all or free college to also be able to easily imagine abolishing ice in abolishing you know the prison industrial complex. That that that those systems are justice oppressive to black and Brown folks as not being able to access healthcare curious as not being able to housing or as worrying about the the the world ending because for so many of our families one interaction with these agencies in our whole world actually really does end and so I think you know that is that is where our strength and power lies right where we're trump's power lies is in isolation then right it's an isolation and separation right white supremacy demands that we see each other as like as not connected acted it demands that we see each other as as the enemy right because if we're actually hitting conversation together and we're actually realizing how similar are struggles are and that if you draw a line to the those who have the power to change what were experiencing. It's going to end up all at the same place and that is that that conversation to your point about. How do we have this conversation? You know I talk about the power of black and Brown voters. I also recognize that struggling white folks have an very important and powerful voting block right now. That voting block is being courted. Really by only one side. Right and they're they're courting it with a message of fear again right. They're hoarding it with a message. Supremacy again so for us I think we have to understand those struggles are real m painful. But we don't court the message. The same way I think we have to bring race to the forefront. Your friend and we have to say exactly what's happening we have to say white supremacy. It's a noose around the neck of communities of color. We can see that clearly but it's also a knife in the back of struggling struggling white communities and we can build power together so that we all can have access to the things we need or you can fight with that billionaire over there but your life is not going to change. I mean I've I've always just flummoxed how people can vote against their their interest and but you're making very clear reasoning for why for why they do it because the messaging is so pointed and specific from trump and the thing to understand it's actually not against their interests their interest they might have economic interests but that does not mean that white supremacy isn't their interest rate and so in many ways right. People are voting with the interest that they put I their whiteness S. or their maleness right And they think that that's what they're aligning themselves to right there. They have more in common with Donald Trump right then then they have in common with the you know immigrant worker. WHO's working right next to them? Who is going home to the same neighborhood as them? Kid is struggling in the same school is that that's what we have to break down. But you know I think we should not be naive in and just like I believe black folks know what we're doing when we go cast their ballots. I'm very confident. Isn't that the folks who voted for trump knew what they were doing and knew what they were voting for when they went to vote for no doubt. Yeah well The vision that you spelled out for our country is one that I really would like to see happen. that's it could and it could So since since I only speak white dude as we mentioned earlier. What are some hot tips for you? Know for white dudes like myself supporting reading Because so often we don't we think we do but you know we talk a lot about like how are organizations are in sort of silos you know and You know certainly organizations tend to organize with people that look like them and don't always intersect and and I'm always hearing like how. How do we bring more people of Color into our organization and the answer is really like you? Don't you go there right. Yes Ted Number One right when you got it you nailed it. So how. How can I in people like me be helpful good advocates I? Guess Yeah I mean I feel like the the positive note here is that you know what we're doing is working and it's changing lives and I think you know people are more connected to folks who are not like them than they are before right I think movements like the Movement for black lives and black lives matter have done so much work to have conversations that move us beyond the concept of a quality right to concepts of equity to concepts of shared power are two concepts of space invoice. So I think those things are really positive and if we can hold them through this electoral season that will be really good. Here's a here's a couple of keys first and foremost understand that when this primary season is over all of us are going to have to come together around on a candidate regardless of who that candidate to defeat trump this right and so you should do everything in your power right now right here here in this moment to make sure the candidate you believe in most ends up being the nominee But you should not in that process assume that who you think is best positioned to do that and the reasons why you think their best position to be the nominee are the right ones to correct one. The only ones I think that is a really huge risk as a as a black woman. I have not made a decision who I'm voting for. I got till February before where we start voting here in California. You know. I'm not really sure yet but what I cannot stand is when somebody reports. Tell me somebody who has been working on justice my whole life. You know which candidate is going to save me and you should help folks make that assessment. You should make the case for your candidate but don't cross the line 'cause when you cross the line from you know so here's what I think too. Let me man's Blaine something to you. And then inserts. It goes from like we have a disagreement on approach policy to. I'm not sure I want to be in relationship with you and you know. That's a problematic place for our party to be in a folks are really like. I'm not sure I want to be in relationship with you. So that's number one right right. Do every right to make sure I'm going to say by Lake how to make sure it's a progressive person who ends up the nominee but know that we all gotta come together so watch yourself watch your language quits. Treat people with care or treat them with respect and understand that your perspective in reasoning is yours alone it does not apply to everyone. That's really powerful. Amazing advice it down and Tattoo The second thing I'll say is that giving the candidates is cool. You you know giving to the Democratic Party especially if they're actually doing doors and you know engaged in fieldwork. Sorry but where are you. You should invest. Your resources is in if you truly want to defeat. Trump is in community organizations that that is the front line of Defense. What's in places like Wisconsin? The community organizations in Milwaukee will be the difference maker in that election they are poised to knock on hundreds hundreds of thousands of doors in a state where trump won by less than fifty thousand votes and your state by the way. Obviously for those who don't know is widely considered as kind of the a pivotal most important. Stay as that goes the rest of the rust belt's expected to go as well. Yeah so shout out to our affiliates leaders igniting transformation and black leaders organizing communities They're ready to take on the charge. But it's not just a Milwaukee you know I look at. I look at Michigan Right. Our affiliate Michigan Detroit Action. They're poised to knock on sixty sixty thousand doors in Detroit alone right just in the city of Detroit. Now Trump won Michigan by less than eleven thousand votes so they are going to make sure that they pass over three times as many black voters as needed to defeat trump without going and getting single trump voter from two thousand sixteen. Meaning they're gonNA knock on or connect with all of those voters absolutely multiple times absolutely. And you know let's be clear like they're gonNA knock sixty two thousand doors. They're going to connect with those voters. They're going to turn out those voters right because when our folks feel connected and feel want like feel like their issues matter they turn out there is no. Let's understand that there's this myth that black and brown are not turning out to vote is just a myth right when black women women in particular are the most loyal voting block of the Democratic Party. We are going to vote unless you force us to just be like I can't be community with you. So that's so that's the big one these field programs that these communications are writing. Are the key to this election and if it were if it were up to the party and we're up to the money interest rests on the democratic side. What they do is wait until about August or September and in the last couple of months they'll throw black and brown organizations a little bit of money to do turn out right not to do engagement not to do persuasion not to build volunteer basis but just to do straight up and downturns just for context for people who don't know what that is turn out? Is that straight like make a plan conversation to make sure that the people who are you're likely supporter quarters but aren't great voting come to the polls as opposed to persuasion which is talking to people in persuading them to get engaged absolutely so I think you know find a community organization I would recommend you know in your own place so that you can actually be in relationship to them but it also encourage people to take a look at a couple of places and this is the plan we see. PD Action Wisconsin Michigan Pennsylvania. We call him the Blue Wall. They're not so blue but we we wanted to be really really badly Florida Arizona. Big really important absolutely winnable. We can make this happen and then you know we have to make Republicans compete and so for me looking at what has been built by grassroots organizers in Texas in Georgia is nothing short of miraculous and it would be an incredible mistake for us to retract on our support there at all if anything we need to double down because we can make twenty twenty the year where they actually you know shift from right or purple. They like to say they're purple. uh-huh red shift to to blue. You know it can happen. And so that's another place where I would tell folks absolutely make them sweat because if nothing else if we make Republicans compete for Texas Georgia even if we don't quite win it yet because we will but even if we don't win them yet we make them put their resources there. That's two Senate seats in Georgia that they have to spend money on that makes them weak or somewhere out so we've definitely got help build Texas Georgia to keep Republicans busy. Thank you for that strategy inside all if people want to donate to some of these you know community organizations. Can they do it through your your main site. or where should they go. So if you just go to a popular democracy dot org you can look at our partners and you can find our affiliates in every single state. Well thirty four of the fifty three sessions say states. Cool one last question before we go. What gives you the most hope who Wow that's a good question. I hit me in a way you know like I just got done doing these endorsement interviews and so got to listen to the stories of our members and I think the thing that gives me the most hope is the bravery that people have the power in their stories. He's and just watching people kind of step out of the shadows right because when life is hard and you're struggling nobody's you're a tougher critic On yourself than you are and people feel like. They made a bad choice or they may back decisions. That's why these things are happening. So when they step out of that and they realize I'm not the only one is. It's not my fault and I can change it. I can do something about it. Not just for me but for people like me everywhere that is just there's is not there the magic in that there's nothing else to describe it so that's why people don't just vote. Don't just donate money. Don't just even send text messages. Ages find a way to get into community what people find a way to be in relationship with the people who are putting it all on the line changes country because you will be transformed and you will be the best advocate the best ally the Best Co conspirator and accommodate. You WanNA call it If you're actually in relationship with folks your Magic Jen. Thanks so much for taking the time. I know you're all jetlagged coming in from then. Why see but thank you for being here? Thank you for having me. We gotTA swing left. y'All I mean all the way left so I'm with it. We are now joined by Stuart. Max Who is the CO host of a great new podcast called Democratica Stewart records. That's right and Mitch McConnell's backyard in Kentucky and besides having a great perspective on races all over the country. He's on the ground where his neighbors just sent. A Democrat to the governor's mansion. Yes we did yes he did. Yes Stewart how are you feeling. I'm feeling great. We've we still got that. That new governor elect smell here in Kentucky. it's a very good time to be a Democrat and Kentucky and it's it's been hard lately right. Now we've got that river of tears flow in a Mitch McConnell's backyard and I'm enjoying it. What was it looking like before election night you you know? Everything pointed to Andy doing very well until we got predictions on voter turnout. That said that it was gonna be basically what it was in two thousand fifteen which was about thirty thirty one percent and you know we. We were hoping for this enthusiasm that we saw in in twenty eighteen. Where voter turnout went up? Forty six percent and if that didn't happen if if he couldn't excite a new part of the base that was is going to be a real problem. And what we saw was turnout increased by over fifty percent and Kentucky It was a a huge huge rallying. Cry Against Matt Bevin and for Andy Bashir for those of us who are outside of the state what was happening on the ground that helped with that turn out. Do you think so. This was the best ground game. Operation I have seen in Kentucky in in my life It rivals some presidentials. Angels the Bashir Campaign and it's associates knocked on doors were I personally had my door knocked five times and They just made sure that anybody who might come out and vote for them was going to be contacted on and before Election Day and and pulled out of their house to vote. If that's what it came to It was it was textbook ground game and it was really refreshing to see because we we haven't always seen seen that and you are okay with having your door knocked on multiple times right. You're yelling at the volunteers knocking on your door right. I was thrilled every time I because you can. You really can feel that energy and it was a huge testament just like what. You guys did in Virginia These things don't happen by accident. There's this idea that people we'll have a lot of times. That elections are predetermined by candidates positions and resumes and the things that happen the nitty gritty people in writing letters getting on the phone knocking on doors and voting. That matters and when you can see that when you see people with clipboards up and down on the streets it creates an energy that that really carried us to To An election day victory. That's so exciting now. the Republicans are trying to spin this by talking about the other statewide seats that they one of those seats differ from Andy. Bashir Matt Bevin Governor Race so ordinarily in the trump era when an republicans give their spin. You can pretty much count on there being no truth to it. That's been the case for a while. Now there is. This was a mixed bag in Kentucky. I don't mean to bring us down but Matt Bevin. It was a uniquely terrible governor and a really just bad person and he he never bothered. Try to pretend that he was anything other than what he was. And where trump a lot of the time people rightfully point out that he's really just playing to his base and insulting and vilifying everybody else Matt Bevin pretty much insulted and vilified everybody and and on the other side. You've got Dandy Bashir. Whose whose dad was super popular? Who's been a really great Attorney General. His father was former governor. There as well yes I'm sorry his his dad. Our last Democratic governor proceeded Matt Bevin very popular through two terms ushered in people. Don't talk about this a lot anymore. It it seems like very distant history but he answered in really the most successful obamacare rollout in the country are uninsured rate really plummeted Over the course of his governorship and And he remains popular so the good news. Is Andy Bashir ran on a continuation attenuation of that record which is a progressive agenda and And he was able to come to victory but you know the fact back. That was the only race. Democrats one is a sign that whereas in Virginia. There's a very clear turning of the tide. Virginia has become through a lot of hard work. A blue state. And there's not really a turning of the tide in Kentucky this was a referendum on Matt Bevin. The good news news is is that he debt trump remains very popular in the state and And so he tied himself to trump every chance he got and it didn't work in the same way didn't work in Kansas for CRISCO Bach. Roy Moore in Alabama. What we're seeing is in red states? The trump game plan is not always going to be enough to overcome truly terrible candidates and the Republicans have a lot of truly terrible candidates including by the way the at least popular senator in the country who happens to be In the house next door here and Up for reelection next year. So that's a great segue Aguayo because I was just GonNa ask you What are people on the ground saying about? This is relates to Mitch McConnell seat or just overall in twenty twenty I think Mitch McConnell's elections always make people very eager and very nervous and with good reason. We've been hurt before you're right but we've all been hurt. I know you especially because you're in Kentucky but he he's an equal opportunity. Pain inflicted her her So with the results of this election. We're seeing that. Trump's popularity has limits Mitch Mitch. McConnell is about as unpopular as Matt. Bevin so I think this shows that Mitch McConnell is beatable but as I said campaigns hands matter so we need to keep our eyes on the prize here and And see if we can seal the deal. There are a number of folks running against Mitch. McConnell L. in two thousand twenty are they taking advantage of of this or do you think their campaigns will see a boost from what happened last week. I have to think that they will Ah There's tremendous hunger to get rid of Mitch McConnell both here in Kentucky and nationwide as I said I never get tired of saying it. He is the least popular senator in the the country but he does have that Arab invincibility and I think we saw that punctured on election. Day last week. Yeah and Mitch. McConnell I guess his approval approval rating right. Now is something like twenty four percent. which is you know? I mean to get us to agree on something like it is difficult. Who Thought that Mitch? McConnell would bring about bipartisan agreement. Partisan agreement Mitch McConnell is garbage average person. And thank you for giving us the on the ground report. They're exciting to see any tied shifting whether it's incremental final or large it's a testament to as you said all the great groundwork that are volunteers and activists are doing thank you thank you. Congratulations to all of Kentucky has a Democratic governor. Thank you for joining us today. And for stepping up and taking action. This is how we win. We want to hear from you and we want your story citizen no or even record yourself and e mail it to podcast at swing left dot org. You might play it. Maybe we probably will if you send it to us. We'll play definitely because no one in the same thing so we'd be so excited into something. Nothing we're GONNA play. Send it in. 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Crisis Conversations: Living with layoffs of pandemic proportions

Better Life Lab

26:59 min | 5 months ago

Crisis Conversations: Living with layoffs of pandemic proportions

"Welcome to another crisis. Conversation live from the better life lab and British SOLTI director. The better life lab coming to you from my Home Office my social distancing Home Office To it might be a little crazy Leah. Have a hole in our ceiling. crazy mishap where. It was raining through the kitchen ceiling. So I've got some workers with their face masks on trying to fix a whole so hopefully it be too loud and this week we have another just crazy situation where millions of more people have applied for unemployment insurance so in the last three weeks. We've got sixteen million people out of work in the United States and so we want to talk about that today. What does that mean how do you? How do you live when you don't have work? How much work shapes our lives but also really explore. What kinds of jobs are these? So many of them are low wage and didn't have benefits and we're kinda crappy to begin with. And how do we make sure that coming out of this on the other side? How do we make decent work? Good work how can we learn from this corona virus in the long run but then what we do in the short run so we'll have some stories from people we definitely want to hear your stories? Share your views but let me at this point. Turn it over to Rachel. Deutsche is a main guest this week. She's the supervising attorney for a worker justice for the Center for Popular Democracy. So Rachel you work so much with With workers what are seeing in the field you know. These are enormous numbers. What are you seeing? What does this mean for workers in their individual lives but also for us as a nation? Yeah the numbers are pretty astonishing rigid. You know over sixteen million people filing for unemployment in the last couple of weeks. That's approximately one in ten American workers and I think the scary thing is that that really understates the impact on working families. Right now because There are you know in almost every state. The unemployment insurance systems are kind of overwhelmed. You know they've been neglected for years of the infrastructure is not great. We hear people all the time that they can't get through by phone so when we have digital divide that not everybody has access to filing online or encounters and technical glitches online that they're not able to get through by phone and filed their claims that way so I think the real scope or people who are seeking unemployment is probably much higher. There are also ways in which you know the federal government recently expanded eligibility for people who are self employed or Gig workers or folks who didn't have in common that in the prior period are now eligible but that that piece hasn't really rolled out yet rates so there are a lot more people who actually need income supports immediately and are not getting it in some of the Southern States. Governors do not impose social distancing as early and so job. Losses are happening at later. And so we're seeing real spike in the south in terms of unemployment claims And then just this obviously isn't impacting people equally right. There are people who can still telework work from home. Like you and I are very forget. Saddle the people who are really getting hit hard or people in the service sector and hospitality in retail in food service and an Alaskan. I'll say is that in retail in particular January to March is slowest period and so for auto folks they were coming into the current virus with lower hours than they even had during normal times especially not well equipped to withstand this gap that we're now seeing between job loss income loss There's a I think a real real crisis that a lot of people's Family budgets right. Now Yeah you know. One of the things that struck me as reading There's a piece in the New York Times and a historian at Patrick Wyman. He's quoted there. He says crises. Like this reveal what is already broken or in the process of breaking in societies. And you know when you talk about. So many of these jobs are low wage. There don't have benefits. They're you know. Low hours unpredictable hours. You know I would argue that. That's already broken. How did we get here to the point where we're losing these jobs? But they're really awful jobs. How did we get to the point where we have so many awful jobs? Is this the last couple decades? We've had this trade off between the preference. Shareholders rather than workers worker wellbeing. And does this give us an opportunity to rethink that equation? Yeah I think shareholder capitalism in this short termism that that drives is a very big part of this. You know one of the areas. That is a lot of time on is looking at schedules ability. And there's so much evidence there that employers actually benefit right over the long term when they can retain their workforce because people feel invested. Have some amount of stability that. There's a job whether it's wages benefits or work hours that people feel like this is a job worth holding onto rate increases their productivity their their expertise. You know in the service sector. This is the ship that's needed as from seeing Workers as disposable and a cost that you have to contain to being a key part of your competitive advantage and so when you do invest in workers you know. That's the customer service that is setting you apart from your competitors but unfortunately that's not the way that you know. Most of the companies in the sector have organized their neighbor budgets. Well so you talk about sort of not looking at at workers and seeing this sort of a labor cost at this point. Let's turn it over to Kayla Caleb you're coming to us from Louisiana you've just graduated from college. You're one of those people who are working part-time and full-time jobs. Tell us what happened. Once the corona virus hit like a Rachel said of really. You know this is. This is just a horrible crisis but After College I was looking for work as like a legal assistant paralegal since I graduated in political science but THE YEAR PRIOR. I'd started working at the mall at a retail store and in looking For you know legal systems I was able to finally pick up a full time position at a shoe store in the mall. Just to kind of make ends meet until something came along and of course both jobs they were low wage the these scheduling was a mess. It was Kinda like I kind of know what I'm going to be doing the next two weeks. I also Kinda don't just have to bring things along as they come as started working at the shoe store for about a week. And then on the sixteenth of March. The rumors started flying around that the the the entire mall was gonNA close and one of the sayings that all the markers have we. Have you know hell would freeze over before the mall closes? And then the next day I wake up and my Truce Group Chat. We have The managers come and tell us hey The store is gonNA BE CLOSED UNTIL THE THIRTY. I am I other store They send us in our group chat. A heinous stores GONNA close to ten days based on the corona virus will give you updates and things went along you know. It was kind of evidence other store was not gonNA open back up. They the company to circumvent basis sinister. Email saying you know you've all been temporarily furloughed this that you lost your job. What that's great. I'm still on your books but I'm not getting paid lease okay. Great I have title in the name. Only that's it. So what are you doing now so you you've had these two jobs your furloughed from both of them Tell us what have you tried to apply for unemployment? What's what's what's going on. How are you making ends? Meet so I've applied for unemployment Louisiana Unfortunately John is a anti-union anti-labour state. Police the government is. I would say the people are not. They're actually more supportive. That but upon applying for the unemployment benefits of the state website is incredibly not user friendly. It's holly confusing. Basically everything that the entire has offer is sitting on the front page. And you're like overwhelming. Because you like where do I go to technically file? When we were talking the other day the way you described it was. It was a hot mess yet. Complete hot mess in other words. I'm going to choose not to use on air but it's incredibly confusing. But I went and made a claim and I remember a few days later it emailed me back and talking about my weekly benefit and I'm looking. I'm fifty one dollars a week. So fifty one dollars a week. That's what they that's what the benefit is. And how are you supposed to pay your bills and buy food and rant and annoy dollars a week no it? I was like okay. I'm grateful I got something so I was like fifty one dollars. A week is not any reasonable amount of what can be used to kind of open for some people. That's an entire tank of gas them so I was able to finally call and speak to a live person and the automated system and she kind of walked me through and help me with my application that why is it that my weekly benefit amount was only fifty one dollars when according to the website it can go up to two hundred forty seven Per Week and she said it's based on the wages that you've earned and you know I'm Kinda caught in a grey zone because Like I said the wages that they've seen had banned from mainland from that part time job that I got a year ago while I was still full-time in college. So it's like I get what you guys are saying by. This is the wages that you reported but you know I graduated and this is a little unfair as someone who goes to work every day. Who Does what they're supposed to do? You know it's kind of like. Where's my bailout? Universes were bailing out Wall Street and big companies. So Rachel let me go back to you and some of the things that you're hearing from workers in this also where the federal government stepped down right and they have this emergency fund where they're going to have six hundred dollars a week available. So is this something that Caleb should be able to apply for and get your saying that. That's it's sort of. We're waiting for the rollout but is this something that should be able to help. Workers who are in situations like calebs. Yeah absolutely to six hundred dollar. Additional weekly benefit is was really one of the bright spots in the cares act which was congress passed. You know which was served by and large corporate bailout but had this one really good p several pieces but primarily the increase Gui benefits and you. I mean unemployment insurance and this is where we're seeing challenges with the implementation right because the systems are old because they don't have enough people processing volume of claims and so each state is sort of in a different place in terms of how soon they'll be able to start getting that additional six hundred dollars to people in one of the things that we're really pushing For Congress to do now is to increase both the amount of money. That's being sent to states to help them. Very quickly update their systems and increase their capacity to process claims and we really just need to shore up the capacity of states to actually get this money into people's hands now because their bills are not leading. The rent is not waiting rate and they need to be able to pay those now. I'll say one other thing. Which is that. There are a lot of people out there who don't th the the experience that we heard from Kayla about his challenges you know pro like navigating the system. There are a lot of people who need more support whether it's because of like WISC BARRIERS. Because they can't get online for variety of other reasons Our network is really trying to push out to figure scaled programs. Actually help people get through to you. I'd help them. Successfully file claims gathered there. People were we know that the people who are most likely to file for you I receive benefits or people who are college educated or promoting fashion jobs usually people who are white and that people in the service sector who really need these benefits most typically have the hardest time accessing it. And so we're GonNa make this something that helps the people who really a most need the money. We actually need to be intentional thoughtful. About how do we support votes to to access the system? Which was as I said not set up to be very user friendly well at this point. Let's bring violet and violet is another. She's a retail worker. She's worked in the beauty industry And she's one of the workers who has has wanted to work full-time hours has wanted to have a job with benefits and has not been able to. She has some health issues and with no health insurance. She's had to go to emergency room. She's got lots of medical bills and now as of March thirty first. She's been sort of in a mass firing and violent. You're saying that trying to apply for unemployment insurance and Texas is like a fulltime job. It's been truly difficult. Hi everyone by the way gets really difficult. I've been on unemployment website trying to apply and calling since eight in the morning this morning. I've been doing it for the past two weeks. It's really difficult and like kill the saying all the information on the site and when you have to do but there's no way to apply there's no way to get through to anybody to even a real person. It's always automated. Unfortunately so I feel like it's a nine to five job that I'm not even getting paid for and I'm calling them so much in the past two weeks I've called Navy eight hundred times. Why wouldn't you say not like there was one day that you that you logged four hundred times? You'd call one hundred times one day. It's like mentally exhausting calling so much you just feel you dislike. You WanNa give up in you just like you know. I'm just going to try to apply for a job and then you apply for a job and there's no jobs out there right now. There's like supermarket jobs. You try to fly is so low visibilities So how are you making ends? Meet while you're you're even trying to get unemployment insurance and a and looking for other jobs are you hurrying managing I'm making nothing right now. Thankfully my brother He does work for a delivery service so he's been doing that and I just met assisting him doing that at this point what I'm doing since I have no income coming in I did apply for Food stamps and all that stuff Denied for some things at some other things. That didn't so have been buying food. You did get did you get you got food food. Stamps yesterday. Did Not get Medicaid or anything else but I did get food stamps for sure so that is helping me out a lot for now until I could get a hold of the unemployment so it sounds like going back to you. Rachel is Something that you hear out. You're talking about these systems are being Sort of overwhelmed. A you know. The technology is outdated. They've been underfunded. Will states have to sign on to get this federal aid? Are they doing that you know? Do you know like what's happening in the in the process to try to really connect the the money that supposed to flow from the Federal Government. So that actually gets to the people who need it yet. There's no reason for states not to sign on. There's no downside to them to get this money. They are able to waive the one week waiting period and the job search requirements. Which really don't you know shouldn't apply in this moment to Texas where violent is calling from Employers can actually file claims on behalf of their leadoff workforce and. I think that's something that we should be looking at a lot of other states right at the company knows who they've laid off they know all the information about their earnings and their socials and all of that to the extent that we can have more responsibility on the companies that are executing these mass layoffs to if not initiate the claims then at least provide upfront. The information so that the state has an easier time verifying right and can more quickly process names. I think that's another piece of the puzzle So I think there is some confusion out there that states. Are you know there are states that just you know? Their their programming is running. Awesome big from the nineteen eighties. Right and even finding the people who speak who can code in that in that language rate is is a challenge so we've seen massive disinvestment particularly in Republican dominated states in just the UI infrastructure. And that is kind of coming back to haunt them right now and so. The federal government needs to step up support. And I think we're in a very very bumpy period. That is the result of policy choices that have been made. He kind of starved the system over the last several years. You know you talk about policy choices. It's interesting when you look at some of how other countries who are also hard hit by the corona pandemic although no country quite as hard hit as the United States with Unfortunately the largest number of cases now when you look at Responses of other countries you know Denmark or Britain or Germany They are actually the government stepping in to pay wages to keep workers attached to their jobs. Because there's so much more disruption when you actually have these mass layoffs or mass firings and unemployment. Neither look at the research. It's been so tied to mental and physical health issues higher stress even even suicide. Can you talk about? Could there be a different response in the United States? Is there a better way to do this? Yeah I mean I think there is some conversation right now. IN REPRESENTATIVE GIANT. Paul is put forward this paycheck urine. Teac that would sort of look more to the European model of funneling wages through Employers and keeping people employed. I mean I think there's actually a real question as whether that's even the best approach for people who work in low wage jobs in the service sector. They do not have health insurance through their jobs. They do not have benefits through their jobs ranch and so on the one hand you have the unemployment system which is failing people in this moment because of administrative challenges but could ultimately be a better system for getting people their money during these crises and then on the other hand you have the idea of keeping people attached to jobs and I think that that works very well and you're talking about people who have high quality jobs it's more open question about whether keeping people attached low-quality job they had unstable hours now healthcare had no benefits. really allows us the paths to reshape job. Quality going forward rain so I I don't know I. There's a healthy debate happening about that question. Yeah well let's go to. Let's go to though the last person that we have coming to share their story so Sarah She had one of these high quality jobs. She was able to work remotely like you and I are very privileged to be able to do And it worked for Global Education from Sarah you know and yet new also were out this week trying to buy unemployment. Can you tell us your story? I have two kids three year old and a one year old so as soon as their daycare closed in mid to late March. I informed I work that I needed to immediately go on annual leave. My husband is overseas. So I'm GonNa take care of them and I assumed that I would be sort of protected and covered under emergency. Fmla for people exactly like me. I WANNA work. My company wants me to work but I can't. I have to take care of my kids in. Its own fulltime job from five. Am to nine PM and so Then a couple days before April first. I was informed that The the terms of my furlough actually were zero work and that I should file for unemployment and there is a lot of back and forth about it but you know ultimately it was a pretty painful Outcome where you know Tuesday. I put Moana on drew my kids to sit there and watch. Schwa- tried to click through the Virginia unemployment website and And Yeah when I filed and have you. Have you heard back from them? Or kind of what is your. Because you're the breadwinner for your family right now. With your husband overseas right. Yes yes that adds a lot of stress it's You know gone through the full range of emotions of anger and resentment and upset and sad and embarrassed and you know asking myself as soon as this somehow my fault And so yeah. I haven't heard back yet which definitely adds to my anxiety. They're supposed to send me something in the May at Lake in the snail mail. That tells me what I actually qualify for so I am waiting to hear back You know would we. Were talking the other day. Sarah you were also saying that this. This is really the first time in your experience that you really felt Kind of punished on most for being a you know a someone with caregiving responsibilities. You know. Can you talk a little bit about about that? Yeah yeah so I know you know. I'm only a we three years until this whole parenting thing but never have I ever had trouble. Sort of like balancing both ever felt like one subtracted from the other and You know just being in the situation where I know if I did not have kids to care for I would be I. Would I would be working right now. An have my sanity and peace of mind and but because I have to care for them here I am unemployed. Thank you Sarah. It's Rachel let's let's go back to you You know you're talking about really the larger question. That's that's really in debate. Like how do we create these better jobs or even in Sarah's case where it is technically a better job how do we create better systems and better structures that really take workers and worker? Well being into account You know some people are calling this crisis. Sort of a once in a generation opportunity to really remake the structures. What needs to happen How do we come out of this on the other side In a better place rather than the worst one yeah I mean I do think this is a real opportunity to bring together folks who have been on the one hand struggling for years and decades with unstable unreliable jobs that don't provide security and other folks you know like in Syracuse who sort of thought. They had a good thing going and realized how quickly it could be. yanked out from under them and to come together to you know demand a new set of standards in a new safety. I think part of the solution is not having employers the source of all of our security right. Because that's that's so precarious right. We need to have Medicare for all. We need to have universal paid sick time in Brussels. Hey leave that doesn't depend only on your employment status and I think we also need to create some real baseline standards for job quality so that people are not won. Miss paycheck away from addiction or enormous debt. We need to have fifteen dollar minimum wage. And you know. We need to have stable schedules. You need to make sure that people who wanNA work fulltime have access to full-time jobs. Like underemployment was a huge issue in this country. Before you know this crisis even hit and then I think we also need to really think about the voice. That working people should have rain in their workplaces. Killing pointed out that there's been a lot of investment In destroying unions in this country. We need to reverse that. We need to think about other ways for workers to have voice whether that's a seat on corporate boards I think both workers and companies would benefit from having the folks that are on the frontline of making their company successful. Be Part of some of these bigger picture questions around how to design work. We have like one minute left with got Elaine Meyer who Wrote into the chat. Can we bring Elaine in really For a really brief point and then we'll we'll wrap and let everybody get back to their days Illinois they're quite here. Yes thank you. Yes you were making a point that you're freelance or Yeah so basically here in Illinois It's been a little confusing because as I understand it. The cures act gives freelancers some access to benefits that when I go to Illinois Department of Revenue Site. They're telling us to wait to apply and it's confusing as to when will actually be allowed to a five for me so far. I'm lucky in that actually living with my parents right now so don't have rent pressures that some people do But I do have health insurance premiums and it just feels like a big issue for us and also kind of seems like maybe an opportune moment to transition from like what you guys were saying. Tying insurance and leave to employers to making it a more universal. Yeah thank you Elaine. So back to your point Rachel you know. Is this an opportunity as you're saying to make the case for you know some might call it portable benefits that you know? The Corona viruses has really shown the cracks in the system. Yeah absolutely I mean. It is not working. This is part of what drives a gender gap unreachable wealth gap right like we've seen the service sector that's being so hard hit and we're dog. Quality was so low. That's a place where predominantly people of color working right and predominantly women and. So we have to make a decision about moving into a more equitable economy And if we were. We're going to see this crisis. Continue to just break US apart. You know lines that have already disadvantaged some people more than others all right. Well listen thank you so much Rachel. Thank you so much for being here and sharing Your perspective and your work. Thank you so much for all the work that you do. Caleb Violet Sarah any lane. Thank you so much for being part of this and sharing your stories. Thank you to all the participants. I also WANNA thank better life lab team my producer. David Shulman the new America events team really grateful for all of you for helping. Us put these conversations together. We can come together in this kind of crazy fast-moving crisis and see if we can make sense of how this is disrupting and changing our working life but also look for opportunities for how we can make it better so next week. Please come back. We'll be talking with frontline. Healthcare workers many of them who were living far from their families. How that's disrupting work in life narrow? Also seeing these berry frontline disparities that. You're talking about Rachel. We'll be talking more about that so I hope that you will all come back and join us and be part of the conversation as we all. Try to figure out What to make of this and how to make it better for the future. So thank you all and Wash your hands. Stay safe and we'll see you next week.

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Jennifer Epps-Addison & Nse Ufot: Make the vision a reality.

The Brown Girls Guide to Politics

41:09 min | 3 months ago

Jennifer Epps-Addison & Nse Ufot: Make the vision a reality.

"Welcome back Brown Girls Ashanti here. The founder of the broncos Guy to politics, the Stop Shop podcast for women of color who want to hear and talk about the world of politics. As we continue with our collaboration with she, the people we're highlighting women from their twenty color to watch twenty twenty less. These are all barrier-breaking women Kerr changing the political landscape this year and beyond. ME, insight thought and Jennifer APPs Addison Jennifer at Edison is the president and CO executive, director of the Center for Popular Democracy, which works with affiliates partner organizations across the country to build a more inclusive equitable society and political institutions that worked for everyone. Jen. How are you doing today, i. Doing as well as anybody can be expected I'm surrounded by family I have been able to be in close contact with you know parents in loved ones, and of course I know protected with the benefits of a good union workplace so I, you know all things considered I. I'm feeling very blessed. We love to hear that in before we start the interview we were chatting in. We're talking about being on the road so much doing this work. What inspired you to get involved in community? Organizing I? Mean I think my mother was just born this way you know I grew up a black woman in the state and city that has been named the worst place in America to be Black Milwaukee, Wisconsin and I know most people don't think of black folks when they think of Wisconsin, they think of like beer cheese in the packers, but you know there have been generations of deeply entrenched. Racial segregation in in problems that have. Led to this dichotomy of Wisconsin, being one of the best places in America if you are a white child in the worst, if you are black and so I think I recognized that from an early age felt really passionate about it in a high school student I became really politicized around the around school funding around the idea that you know. Schools in the suburbs were getting twice as much per pupil. Than you know the school that I was going to in the city of Milwaukee. You know the reality is. Is that every single thing that we hold to be sort of like a part of the American dream was. Fought for and won by people organizing their communities in taking collective action in so You know I feel very blessed to be able to spend my life. Really working with folks to help as many people as possible in this country, find their voice empower. That is that is very powerful. What you just said. and. You mentioned being from Milwaukee. Were in the middle of the virus, and we're seeing it as a city where the majority of the black population there is infected with the virus in that has also just spur conversations to about how so many people still had to go to work, and how are essential workers a lot of them? Grocery workers aren't getting a fair wage in Eve. Let so many different campaigns including fight for fifteen. So how are you connecting at the moment all the work that you've been doing with fight for fifteen for people to have a fifteen dollar an hour wage in what you're seeing with essential workers who are putting their. In their lives on the line right now to make sure that we are able to get the benefits that we need and say stay in our homes. I mean first of all. What we saw just as pass Tuesday in Wisconsin was a travesty, a failure of democracy There's no way around it. You have a city. The largest city in the state. Multiple, times, the population of any other city. That is used to having over one hundred fifty polling places that on Tuesday, in the midst of a crisis in which we are not supposed to gather in large crowds, crowds over ten had five polling locations open for a critical election had A. Tens of thousands of people who had requested absentee ballots who had not received them as of Election Day, and the you know the impact on on my community on my people is is not an accident, right? It is the product a decade's worth of policy passed by elected officials who are incredibly hostile towards the city of Milwaukee on the city's behalf towards sort of neo liberal You know business oriented. Democrats who have allowed the city's most vulnerable populations to suffer in struggle and become the scapegoats of the, and so you know I'm really grateful for groups like black leader, organizing communities in the Laki and leaders igniting transformation who are organizing You know black folks. Brown folks in in the city to really demand the future they deserve in at the end of the day. All of these campaigns, the fight for fifteen, the fight for paid sick days. Many people don't know that. In Milwaukee we passed a referendum with more than two thirds of the voter support to require any business in the city of Milwaukee to provide paid sick leave earned sick leave to their workers, and that a law that was passed by voters was overturned by preemption at the state level. At the at the request of the crack mayor when we talk about the now eighty seven percent of the people who have died of Covid nineteen in Wisconsin are black. We have to understand that this is a consequence of lack of. Political Power and UVA intentional suppression of in particular Black Communities in the state of Wisconsin, and so it's important that we're having this conversation in the context of she, the people of you know a movement of a women of color who are demanding more than just to see at the table, but who are demanding real power. That, we can use to transform the lives of our people. That's what women of Color braying and I. Think you know it's if we look at what's happening in Wisconsin through the Lens of women of Color, we begin to understand the multiple layers enrich raises on in sexism and capitalism are creating. This you know are exploding the impact of this crisis in places like Milwaukee, Detroit and New York. City another's love everything. She just said because a lot of people saying that they're truly realizing the disparities that exist in black and brown communities between wages between house, and it is getting a lot of people interested in union organizing. So, what advice would you have for those people because we are seeing it not only with Amazon with their workers waiting to strike, we're also seeing people do rent strikes. Because of you know they're not getting fair treatment and understanding from their landlords, so for people who are new to this. Where should they start in owning their political power by organizing? Me My first suggestion would be the exact same way I started which is find a local community organization that's working on the issues, your most passionate about the. The most powerful thing I've learned over more than twenty years. in doing this work is that for most people? Folks are really struggling whether that's what their mental health are there other healthcare whether it's with being able to pay their rent whether it's being sexually harassed on the job like folks suffer in this country, but they do it in silence. We're meant to to believe that that it's just us in whatever issues or challenges were having are. Are Part of our individual failure in the reality is that there is an entire structure of this country is meant to extract our labor in our wealth and often stills our joy you know to benefit of very small classified folks, and and so when we begin to tell our stories when we come out of the shadows of struggling alone, we find that we are actually more similar in going through the same things than we are different. It. This immense power in it! And so you know, go find somebody working on the issue. You're working on in. Be Willing to learn in engage in in those strategies. That's that's where I would start, but I think this moment offers you the the ability to do so much, and there is no shortage of work to be done. The the thing that I'm hoping for most is that we can begin to collectively envision different future together you know. You mentioned the fight for fifteen. I'll never forget that. A A union organizer once told me you know it takes the exact same amount of time effort energy. To win a campaign for ten dollar, minimum wage, as it does for a fifteen dollars minimum wage. Meaning the opposition, we could ask them for thirty five cents, or we can ask them for double. What we're making an either way they're answer is going to be no. That power you know, project says power concedes nothing without a demand, and so our job is not to limit. Our lives are our expectation for our lives based on what? Other people particularly people who stand the profit off of our pain say as possible our job is to is to envision a society that you know we're all of us strive, and then to build the political power to make that vision a reality. I love what you said really great advice for all of our listeners who are really looking to get into organizing particularly union organizing and you hit on this Milwaukee, the state of Wisconsin holding elections during the pandemic. You're currently working at the Center for popular. Democracy, so can you tell us about the work that you do there? And how you are thinking about twenty twenty and the work that you are going to do in light a coded in what we're seeing around elections. I am so honored to be a part of this network, the Senate for Popular Democracy is a national network of grassroots people's organizations in thirty four states web Otago in Washington DC. We have affiliate partners all across this country who work on a variety of issues. There are car wash workers there're Amazon. Worker whose they're fast food workers they. You know are fighting to. Stop the government in Michigan from poisoning them with their water. They are taking over vacant properties in California amid this crisis. They are registering millions of voters in Texas they. They're doing a whole lot of work. What kind of threads them all together is that? They are Democratic People's organizations. They're owned by the impacted communities. They end and run by the impacted communities. Together, our network had planned to knock seven million doors through the general election in twenty twenty. We obviously you know our political arm CPT action made our first ever presidential endorsements. In you know this year. Largely because we realize what's at stake in twenty, twenty, four our communities in largely because we felt, it was critical to force the conversation about the folks who always seem to get left behind particularly in this two party system that you know both parties will cater to in speak. Volumes value values to and towards the middle class. But there are you know? Forty percent of the folks in this country who can't even put four hundred dollars together in a crisis like the one where in right now you know we felt like it was critical that we engaged in the entire presidential election process, including the primary process that black and brown communities deserve to have a strong voice in who was going to be the Democratic nominee and lead the party you know so even though are preferred, candidate will be the Democratic nominee I. Think you know it was critically important for us to engage in the primary, because the party had a different conversation medical you. You know we saw even as Bernie Sanders was losing primaries towards the end of the cycle. We saw that Medicare for all one right twenty out of twenty primaries, not some obscure version of Medicare for all that the majority of the Democratic candidates were were in support of, but it was clearly asked. Would you support replacing private insurance with a with a on single payer government run system, and in twenty out of twenty primaries where that question was asked, universally, the answer was yes, that would not have happened. Were it not for our communities engaging in an finding a candidate willing to? Advance on apologetically the issue of universal healthcare in this primary, so we're really proud of the work that's happening and we really you know. We think it's important that folks understand even in this crisis that we have to keep our eyes focused on the general election in November in in particular, our network did some research and found that we need around three billion dollars billion. billion. With a B. dollars for election administration insecurity in order to fully meet the needs of of allowing everyone who's eligible in this country to vote to participate in the general election safely and so there's a huge fight ahead of us that the Republicans are quite clear on. You've heard Donald. Trump say we cannot let them win on vote by mail for example because It will it will. Make It less likely that that Republicans will be reelected, and so we we see a really important fight in election administration in making sure that what we saw in Wisconsin with lines out the door, and around the corner of hundreds of people you know breaking all protocols for social distancing does not get replicated in 'cause a big spike. In another outbreak of CO bid at. Come November. Woah, that's a lie especially when you were talking not only about shifting the narrative, but how you were able to do that because you were able to knock so many doors, and just how in this time elections particularly in the primary, just changed overnight, but the Center for popular. Democracy does amazing work. How would our listeners be able to get involved or support your work? So you can find us on all social media just at he'll key d. e.. M. O. CPAP democracy on twitter, instagram facebook, and then at COPD action is our political arm. If you WANNA follow our work on in elections, not just the presidential election, but all the way down to state state and local races. And in. On our website Popular Democracy Dot Org. You can find our list of fifty five. Grassroots state and local affiliates, and so there is likely in affiliate in. Whatever city you are living in, and you're listening from, so we really encourage you to get involved. In meet up with our local affiliates, so on your profile page for near see the people interview making the list you have your plus one in. You chose Angela laying? Why did you choose Angela? Why I talked about Wisconsin a lot obviously people. No, that's where my heart is in. Is the executive director at black leaders, organizing communities who ingest the few years that the organization has existed has really transform the electoral landscape in Wisconsin, most notably helping to elect Democratic Governor Tony Rivers and and the first African American. Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes they've also helped win the first State Supreme Court raised in in decades. Four Democrats they you know. Their model is not about building the Democratic Party. Their model is about really empowering the local community. They have ambassadors that go door to door. Every single day they run a field program there now switching obviously to digital because of Kobe, but their goal is to really bring the Milwaukee community together on particularly Black Milwaukee and to build independent political power that they can use to really transform the conditions on the ground, so Angeles and incredible leader, and I would encourage everybody to get to know block and get to know Angela awesome okay, and this has been an amazing interview. You drop so much knowledge one more question for you, our signature. Signature question. What advice do you have for? The brand grows out there. Listening saying I want to be just like her. My advice is just to know that you are enough that you know the reality is. Is that every day? Somebody will try to make you second. Guess Yourself but you are absolutely enough. Trust your gut, interest your instinct and get yourself. 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Your work has definitely taken on a new meaning given how Kobe has impacted elections, so tell us a little bit how your work has changed over the past month, and how you are making sure that free and fair elections are still being had our mission, and our goals have not changed in any way since this global health crisis has come to Georgia at tactics, absolutely have shifted and how we get our work done has absolutely shifted. For some time, we've been talking about the weaknesses in Georgia's electoral system, the sort of the weaknesses, the vulnerabilities in democracy, but also the weaknesses in our health system. before Khurana virus hit We were looking at twelve hospitals in rural Georgia that were about to close. We have counties in our state where there's one physician for the entire population and no daily newspaper. I remember a few weeks ago. People were joking about whether or not black people could get corona virus. Because when you look at the global heat maps There were no cases reported in Africa and there weren't cases being reported in the south. And it. Made me pause because when I realized that it wasn't Melanin wasn't some defense against covert nineteen that our communities were under tested and underdiagnosed, and that the care infrastructure that was in existence, an on the ground was failing communities of color, particularly black communities here in the US and abroad. And now we see that one out of ten co vid deaths are in four States Alabama Louisiana Mississippi and Georgia. When you look at the heat map and the Talapity rate, it absolutely mirrors the map of the confederacy. and so that has been our work since the New Georgia project started. We say that you know our goal is to try to build super voters, but we aren't and super voters voters who vote in every election in which they are eligible, but we aren't trying to build super voters, just for the sake of you know to say that we have numbers that people could show up to vote It's still so that we can make meaningful policy and political changes in our lives. You know Georgia's going to be the first state in the south with a white minority. So African Americans Latinos Asian Americans are gonNA make up the majority of Georgians in about four years but does that mean that we are going to get the policies and the politics that we deserved that our communities need in order to move from surviving to thriving the minimum wage in Georgia's five dollars and fifteen cents. WE HAVEN'T EXPANDED MEDICAID And Again We have elected leaders who got on television and live about not knowing that you can be a symptomatic. Corona virus. And so we believe that black people deserve the best people of color deserve. The best women deserve the best in life including from their political organizations, including from their elected leaders and we're working every day. Try to make sure that that becomes our reality. LADD and you talked about how your work isn't changing your tactics have but you all. New Jersey. Project have been just so innovative about what you do when it comes to get. People informed about voting and I. Want you to talk a little bit about the. Hosted gain jam that you all did which was seventy two hour video game contests focus on voter, protection and engagement. How did idea come Abou? How did people respond? I. Just I was talking to Marcus about it. He was the one who told me I was like. That's really fabulous. I just love how you all come up with new concepts early meet people where they are. Absolutely I. Mean Our position is that we will leverage every resource that we have access to to make sure that underrepresented and underserved communities are represented that are participating fully in our democracy, and that we get elected leaders who not only know what the issues are in our communities, but who feel accountable to our communities, and so when I say leverage every resource I mean it We were doing some research earlier at an IT comes down to the idea that culture eats strategy for lunch every day, and so if we can change the culture. Of Civic Engagement. if we can change the culture of our elections, then I think that we can start to see the change that we see so doing. Some AM industry research and learned that seventy two percent of black men and boys identify themselves as Gamers. Fifty percent of all gamers are women. I'm more identified as women and when you start thinking about you know my. Dear. Uncle who is entering into his seventh decade of life, and who plays candy crush on his own two hours a day and you realize he too is a Gamer, and so we've registered Abou-, four, hundred and twenty thousand people of Color and young people to vote just in the state of Georgia since we are doors have been opened You know we. Average about four million face to face like high quality base the base conversations we do phone banks and tax breaks, and what I realized is that we are innovating and those tactics in super easy to ignore a phone call. To the phone they don't recognize the number and we want it, and we know that so why not take that cultural knowledge that we have and use it to inform our outreach programs? Text messages are a low intensity. Weigh to engage but like. How do we continue to get these messages that we've tested in front of the eyes of the folks that we want to engage and. And so we start thinking about video games in advertising in game advertising, but then and so that's just on the outreach part I think on our voter education. The idea of gaming for learning is not new. educators have been exploring with this concept for a really long time, and so that's what we did. Seventy two hours, we took on east sports players, which is basically professional. Professional video game players graphic designers voting rights, lawyers, canvassers people that have been purged from Georgia's voter rolls. We put them on teams and add them compete against one another to come up with video game ideas that would peel back. The layers demystify the process. Let people give people the game. Let them know how this actually works. How our system actually works to bring about change and how? How to make sure that their vote actually count into understand the value of air boat, and so it was fantastic people from all kinds of disciplines, but recognizing that the thing that unites us and this particular moment is that we are citizens, and that we are members of communities that want to get our demands, and so yeah, so one of the first Games. It's coming out A choose your own adventure game that talks about the challenges of navigating for example, the public education system as a student of color with a learning disability, and like what that means to get through on the other side, so like really peeling back the layers on on process and so yeah, we're really excited about it. We want to get it into. People's phones have been some delays because of Covid, nineteen but I. Think there's a real opportunity to like us play to teach, and to highlight critical than really important issues, and we see this as our work. We jokingly refer to ourselves as A. Voting Rights Organization Civic Engagement Organization. inside of a tech startup and yet. And yet we are constantly figuring out ways to leverage technology to make it easier for people to participant that is awesome and. Twenty twenty, just definitely going to be an interesting election year. What are the things that you think we should be looking out for in regards to voting rights, and what are ways? Some of our listeners could support your organization. You can find us at new. Georgia Project DOT org. In this moment, you know we have over a hundred people on our staff. Many of I. Staffers are located in rural Georgia and in South West Georgia in what is known as Georgia's rural black belt. And so while our democracy reform work continues our fight against voter suppression continues. Our staff and leaders have also been joining. You know mutual aid societies, and making sure that members the most vulnerable members of our community have the resources. They need to protect themselves in so New Georgia Project Dot Org for donate where your donations absolutely welcome, that will allow us to keep our stack on the ground to again. We work in a lot of places where Rob Bat entered broadband Internet. Internet is not a thing and again the challenges of finding trusted messengers when you can't believe anything that your presidents as on television and being able to send text messages to community members in parts of the state. Where again there's no daily newspaper and there's one physician for all residents being able to text resources and information and breaking news updates that people can trust and act on is super important in this moment I would say twenty twenty. I would encourage us to sort of. Connect so many of us have been talking about healthcare. Many of us have been talking about the need for an increase in the minimum wage. To a living wage so the Times of policy areas that we've been banging our head on trying to build support for and I think that. You know. What we have done is. We've been able to connect sort of Georgia's failures. As it relates to protecting our people protecting our communities in light of this global pandemic to the failures that we've been trying to fix, and we've been highlighting for some time now, and so you know the need for Medicaid expansion. There's absolutely a corona virus story that can be used to highlight that I also think that on the other side that the enemies of progress and bad actors are going to try to use this moment to push for the reforms that they seek so I you know the Republicans in Georgia. Georgia have had a press conference. Talking about you know they want. They don't want vote by mail to go out to our registered voters and that they would like to see this instead the state push back our primary elections to a later date as a substitution for vote by mail I'm of the position that we can do both that we can remove the barriers to participation by mail, and we can make sure that the election if we're gonNA, do in person voting that it happens at a time where you know, we feel safe. That Georgians can go out and participate. I shudder to think about doing GEO TV at a time where Georgians are dying at twice the rate of the entire country. At a time where you know. Our leadership has not demonstrated that they are taking the steps that are necessary to keep us safe and so I an. We Wanna see vote by I. Don't think they vote by mail is a panacea at all I think that if we if folks are pushing for vote by mail in their states, and encouraging their leaders to adopt that as a policy that we also make sure that they get rid of those ridiculous hurdles that make it difficult for people to participate. Participate and what I mean is in Georgia you. If you've never voted by mail before, which is the majority that majority of Georgia voters? You have to include a copy of your photo ID with your ballot. I don't own a printer in my home I. Don't have a scanner in my home. I know that's the case where a lot of Georgians which trying to figure out how to develop some solutions to make that happen I. think that at this moment It's connecting the. How do we want to maneuver on the other side of this? Because we will get through this, we will get passes this. What kind of world what kind of Georgia kind of America? What kind of world do we WANNA live in? A when this is said and done so well, said everyone was able to pick a plus one. Who is your plus one in? Why did you pick her? or WHO's a young queer organizer here in Atlanta, she's also Nigerian American in one of my favorite humans. She's Hut Larry and she runs and. Work where they raised funds, and try to provide you know they actually provide that money, but also matere other kinds of material support to people who are seeking abortion care, and just the idea. I mean you know that there are tons of like pithy t-shirts like someone you love has had an abortion. Abortion access is healthcare, etc, etc, abortions healthcare I. Think that she embodies it if she makes it fun. She has all kinds of on ramps for people to participate and growing up as an immigrant. And like. A child of immigrants in this country I know and really appreciate how taboo the question of abortion and other sorts of women's health care is in immigrant communities, particularly immigrant communities of faith and I think that again oriented manages to get is super like small C conservative. And Caribbeans where these conversations would have been taboo years ago has been able to organize them into little, having bold courageous conversations about this topic and why it matters. She managed to do it in a fun and interesting way. That doesn't shame people for. Getting to this place when they get there and she's just super dope. And Super Funding and we'd take turns mimicking our MOMS and aunts. And like over the top Nigerian accent, and it's just nice to know that you know in the deep South. At this moment in this time that the sort of the the the diversity, the. The with of. Black Women's leadership looks like that story can be told with my story and with orientals and I'm I'm here for gas. Love it a right and say we're GONNA. Move into our final question. Our signature question that we ask all of the guests. Why advice you have for all the Brown girls out there listening, saying I want to be just like her. I would say that. You know protect your energy. protect your creativity another. There were times where I was made to Feo as if I was too intense that cared too much. That cared deeply about issues about politics about race sex. Gender. All, of those things, and I didn't like and You know that my my voice matters, and so I think there were times where I shrunk and I played small because I didn't want to take up too much space, and that didn't serve anyone. It didn't serve my purposes, and it didn't serve anybody so like. So like yet, definitely protect your energy re definitely protect your heart and your mind, but also don't play small like you matter your voice matters. You have something to contribute and like. I miss up all the top all day every day. Twice a day it three times on Sundays, but like that's also how you learn and grow, and so we got to do A. WE'RE MAKING CIVIC engagement video games because we messed up like we figure some stuff out. Some stuff didn't work, but we want to try it. We want to be experimental and entrepreneurial and our quest for justice and the way that we. We are going to turn out something beautiful and that is highly effective is by going through a bunch of prototypes that didn't work well so like give yourself permission to fail and give yourself permission to figure it out. Such great advice relate so much to what you said in. Say, thank you for beyond a podcast. Thank you for everything that you do. 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The O'Reilly Update, August 23, 2019

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13:00 min | 1 year ago

The O'Reilly Update, August 23, 2019

"<music> bill o'reilly here friday august twenty third two thousand nineteen. You are listening to the o'reilly update. Here's what's happening today. In america erico the race for the democratic presidential nomination will soon heat up again roughly twenty candidates remain following colorado governor john hickenlooper in washington shington state governor jay inslee dropping out depending on which poll you look at the races either a joe biden blow out or did heat but be very skeptical the goal of these early polls the most recent survey by sea and shows biden with a commanding lead over his closest rivals twenty nine percent of democratic voters support former vice president fourteen point lead over senator bernie sanders fifteen point lead over senator elizabeth warren latest poll from the economist different story that survey shows a close race among the top three democratic candidates biden a twenty two percent centers in warren at nineteen and eighteen percent respectively yet another paul from politico shoes biden with an eleven point lead over sanders and and warn a distant third kamala harris did not fare well in any of those polls after some momentum following i obey the california senator has dropped down to a distant fourth place according to real clear politics which averages out all the polling now the polling may be all over over the place but it's probably safe to assume that joe biden does remain the candidate to beat awebber much can change and quickly the next democrat debate hosted by a._b._c. News is scheduled for september twelfth. Possibly another one on the thirteenth depending on how many people are qualified in order to secure a spot on the stage candidates need to get at least two percent in four different polls between june twentieth and august twenty eight edition candidate must receive financial support from a minimum of one hundred and thirty thousand unique donors with at least four hundred dollars in twenty different states. That's pretty complicated. Obligated so far only ten candidates have met the criteria biden sanders warren booker aurore but a judge harris gang castro enclosure char- meaning democrats have until august twenty eighth coming up fast the next debate especially crucial joe biden he must show he is in command if he does not he will sink in the polls coming up the message of the day punishing ching your political enemies. Is that morally right. We'll be right back. I have been telling you about a first time buyer in texas now. 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I trust dot com yet the job done yet moving real estate agents. I trust dot com. That's real estate agents. I trust dot com time now. Theoretically update message of the day imagine donating three hundred seventy million dollars to a single college and then have some some alumni of that school demand the university sever ties with you well. That's exactly what happened to businessman stephen ross after after he held a fundraiser for president trump a few weeks ago on long island ross is a billionaire seven times over jones the miami dolphin football team and the stadium where the team plays. He made his money in real estate investments. Stephen ross is obviously a rock-solid capitalist who believes donald trump's. Economic vision is more in line with his than say elizabeth. Warren ross is actually protecting his financial empire from from the democrats who would dismantle it enter kumar row a michigan grad and a hard left guy row how is senior counsel for group called center for popular democracy. An organization devoted to destroying political opponents funded by fanatics like george soros the c._p._i. Is quote pro immigrant attached to teachers unions and and like social justice awful lot now row got some fellow university of michigan. Alumni sign a defamatory letter that stated added quote. We asked that the university remove ross's name from campus buildings and sign age simply stated supporting donald trump's predisposition position and commitment to white supremacy xenophobia corruption and clinical ignorance is flatly inconsistent consistent with the values and legacy of the university of michigan after receiving the letter administrators in ann arbor essentially toll row and his fellow fascist che's to stuff it quote we don't exclude or include people from our university community based on their political views spokesman set how how refreshing i sincerely hope most folks associated with the university of michigan and americans in general understand just how dangerous the attempt to punish punish stephen ross really is the attacker row and his cohorts are clearly saying that citizens who support president trump must be harmed. There's no other way to read that a man letter. This is not political freedom. This is a form of extortion paid for are by far left nutty billionaires. That's what happens until tala. -tarian countries row is imitating mao once again on the deep villain. George soros is up to his neck in this his open society foundation supports rows crew. We are indeed living in turbulent times times where political differences are no longer accepted by many today. It's hurt your opponents any way you can smear smear them slime them. Do everything you can to destroy their lives. That strategy is up close and personal and is big money behind it as i mentioned and where is the media scrutiny of all this nowhere. That's where the university in michigan did the right thing. Many other schools do not fascism on the march in the u._s._a. And it's likely coming to a theater near you. That's the message for more news analysis. Please head on over to bill o'riley dot com check out the new spin news each evening coming something you might not know. 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America's tastes in cuisine may constantly be evolving but one item remains as popular as ever the sandwich named after the earl of sandwich according to two thousand fourteen study approximately forty nine sav adults eat at least one meal between two slices of bread every day. So what are the favorite sandwiches in america you gotta ask has twelve hundred people away and here's what they said number ten southern classics sixty five percent of americans give thumbs up to the pulled pork orc sandwich nine a mainstay in lunchroom's across the nation. Two thirds of americans say they love peanut butter and jelly number. Great gradient is found in three of the top ten sandwiches but americans love it solo sixty. Seven percent of americans approve of the bacon sandwich next item originated at a private social club in new york city turkey bacon lettuce and tomato on toasted bread known <music> as the club sandwich well. If you take out the turkey you have this six most popular sandwich in america the b. l. t. not a number five. We continue with america's love affair sixty nine percents so they enjoy the humble ham sandwich which is made the pork of course number four with support from seventy. One percent of americans is roast beef. The turkey sandwich weighs in at number three the seventy five percent of us say we routinely eat it number. Two rising in popularity across the country due in part to the success of the fast food chain chick-fil-a seventy five percent of americans say they're now fans of the grilled chicken sandwich and number one with approval from eighty percent cent of americans. Our favorite sandwich is ready. The classic grilled cheese. Did you know that i didn't now. I hope i didn't sound like casey kasem but i'm gonna tell you what my favorite sandwiches cheers and it's healthy to boot tuna salad lettuce white toast. We'll be back with more a riley early update. 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Democracy Now! 2020-02-20 Thursday

Democracy Now! Audio

59:02 min | 7 months ago

Democracy Now! 2020-02-20 Thursday

"Broadcasting from Purdue University in West Lafayette Indiana. This is democracy now who were running against billionaire. Who Calls Women Fat broads and Horse Taste Lesbians and I'm not talking about Donald Trump. I'm talking about Mayor Bloomberg the fact that matter is he has not met as his city very very well when he was there. He didn't get a whole lot done. Stop and Frisk throwing folk close to five million young black men up against the wall. Mike Bloomberg owns more wealth than the bottom. All hundred and twenty five million Americans that's throng taxable dot should not be the case when we got a half a million people sweep it out the straight mayor Bloomberg. Should you exist? I can't speak for all the as you heard the rumble in the jungle. In last night's democratic debate billionaire former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was the Pin Yada in Nevada. As the six leading candidates squared off will unpacked one of the most contentious debates of the long primary season in a roundtable discussion. With the nation's Katrina Vanden activists and journalists Raquel Willa. He's endorsed Senator. Warren UNIM- Maria Akilah with the Center for Popular Democracy which is endorsed senator. Bernie Sanders New in Houston. We'll speak with former Houston Mayor Parker now president of the Oj Btcu Victory Fund which endorsed Mayor Pete Footage. All that and more coming up. Welcome to democracy now democracy now DOT ORG the Warren Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman in Nevada. Six leading the candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination squared off Wednesday night and one of the most contentious debates of the primary season Senator Bernie Sanders sought to defend his position as front runner while former vice president. Joe Biden Mayor Buddha. Judge and Senator Amy Klobuchar tried to attract more supporters. Senator Elizabeth Warren led a night full of attacks on the new person on the stage billionaire former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg. I'd like to talk about who were running against a billionaire who calls women fat broads and horseface lesbians and no. I'm not talking about Donald Trump. I'm talking about mayor. Bloomberg Democrats are not going to win if we have a nominee who has a history of hiding his tax returns of harassing women and of supporting racist policies like redlining and stop and Frisk. Protests erupted at the end of the two hour debate. Just former vice president Joe Biden was set to begin his closing remarks. The protesters Erica. And Yola and Lisa Elaine of the Texas face immigrant's rights racist shouted Biden. You deported three million people a reference to the record pace of deportations under President Obama. They chanted note kids in cages. And don't look away as they were escorted from the auditorium. This is Eric Angela. Speaking just after the protest we decided to interrupt. We're sorry than the immigration debate today Immigration Kim. The last issue that they talked about Al and dating even have time to talk. This is not okay. We are being the most attack with the trump administration and we deserve conversation of our lives are going to look like you've any of those people get elected in more campaign news former. New York City mayor and billionaire. Michael Bloomberg is under fire after newly surfaced video showed him making transphobic remarks less less than a year ago. Buzzfeed news first reported on this comment from Bloomberg which came last March during a Bermuda Business Development Agency conference in Manhattan. Your conversation during a presidential election is about some guy wearing address and whether he she or it can go to the locker room with their daughter. That's not a winning formula. Most people meanwhile the Nation magazine reports Bloomberg's campaign is forcing at staffers to sign a nine page nondisclosure agreement or NDA that could prevent them from reporting workplace abuse and discrimination critics say the NBA is overly broad to the point of preventing sexual harassment and incidents of racism. From being reported. We'll have more on. Last night's democratic debate after headlines will have a round table discussion including Katrina Vanden who've Oh publisher of the Nation magazine. The United Nations is warning of an unfolding humanitarian catastrophe and serious Italy province as hundreds of thousands of people fleeing a Russian back Syrian offensive or being forced into an ever shrinking area near the Turkish border on Wednesday. Un humanitarian affairs chief mark lowcock pleaded with the UN Security Council for an immediate ceasefire. Nowhere is safe. Almost fifty thousand sheltering onto trees or in other open spaces. I'm getting daily reports of babies and other young children dying in the code. Imagine the grief of a parent who escaped to war zone with their child only to watch that child freeze to death. The UN's warning came as the Turkish president. Trump type air doin threatened to launch his own military offensive in a league by the end of the month unless Syrian troops withdraw behind a line of Turkish observation posts aired ones warning drew sharp rebuke from Russia's government which supports Syrian. President Bashar al-Assad in Germany. A gunman with a high powered rifle opened fire on patrons to Shisha bars in the town of Hanau Wednesday night killing nine people. The forty three year old suspect them return to his home and killed his mother before turning the gun on himself. The attacks appeared to target people of Turkish and Kurdish ancestry German. Federal investigators said they're investigating. The killings is a lightly right wing terror attack. The killings came a week after German. Police arrested twelve members of far right group and accused them of plotting tease semi automatic weapons to murder worshippers at mosques and attacks. That would mirror those carried out by white. Nationalist gunman in Christ's Church New Zealand last year. Chinese officials said Wednesday. They were expelling three Wall Street Journal. Reporters from mainland China. Over the newspaper's coverage of the corona virus outbreak Government Ministry spokesman cited recent OP ED published in the Journal Headline China is the real sick man of Asia calling it racist the expulsions drew condemnation from Secretary of state. Mike Pompeo the Chief Executive Dow Jones which publishes the Wall Street Journal said. He regretted the upset and concerned caused by the opinion piece to the Chinese people. This comes as two elderly people. Iran died after testing positive for the new strain of Corona virus. There the first two deaths from the virus in the Middle East president trump on Wednesday named US ambassador to Germany. Richard Grenell is next director of National Intelligence Grenell's a supporter of trump on social media. He's also a gold level member of the trump organizations trump card loyalty program. He brings to the job title little experience and intelligence or with heading a large government bureaucracy. Grenell conserve up to two hundred ten days without Senate confirmation as acting. Deny he's expected to hold that position while keeping his ambassadorship to Berlin president. Trump's longtime ally former adviser Roger Stone is set to be sentenced by federal judge in Washington D. C. Today on seven counts related to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation including witness tampering obstruction and making false statements overnight. Shortly before two. Am President Trump hinted at a pardon for stone pinning video to his twitter feed a Fox News host Tucker Carlson blasting federal prosecutors over stones case. This comes as the Washington Post reports. The White House is moving to take more direct control over pardons and commutations with trump trying to limit the role of Justice Department in the clemency process. Lawyers for Julian. Assange told a London court. Wednesday president trump offered the wikileaks founder. A presidential pardon if he agreed to publicly state. Russia was not behind the leak of Democratic Party emails ahead of the two thousand sixteen election. The explosive allegation came as part of a legal filing by assange lawyers who are seeking to block assange extradition to the United States where he faces up to one hundred seventy five years in prison. According to the lawyers then Congressman Dana Rohrabacher of California visited assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London in two thousand seventeen claiming he had instructions from President trump to make a deal for a pardon. Rohrabacher has since denied the allegation saying he was on a personal fact finding mission meanwhile lawyers for US Army Whistleblower. Chelsea manning filed motions in federal court Wednesday asking for her release from prison outside Washington. Dc where she's been jailed. Since March of last year for refusing to cooperate in a federal grand jury investigation into wikileaks. Manning could be held as long as eighteen months on contempt of court charges in Mexico City government. Investigators have opened a corruption probe into former Mexican President. Riquet opinion yet though. The investigation stems from a broader case against Emilio. Zoya the former head of Mexico's national oil company MEX- LASAGNA which arrested last week in Spain pending his extradition to Mexico where he's charged with accepting millions of dollars in bribes from Brazilian construction firm Mexican Steel Company. At the time of the alleged bribes. Zoya was a top official in Penn. Yet does two thousand twelve presidential campaign in Arizona. Federal judge ordered the US Border Patrol to provide clean mats and thin blankets to migrants within twelve hours after their brought to an immigration jail. Wednesday's Court order came after immigrant. Rights groups sued the trump administration over overcrowded unsafe unsanitary freezing and inhumane conditions that eight border patrol jails in Arizona in Nashville Tennessee. Fifty eight year old Nicholas. Todd Sutton is scheduled to be electrocuted to death this evening after governability declined to halt as planned execution. Cetin was convicted of three murders in nineteen seventy-nine later sentenced to death for fatally stabbing a prisoner in one thousand nine hundred five seven current and former Tennessee. Prison workers called for clemency for Sutton saying he reformed to become a model prisoner. One of them retired. Prison Guard Tony. Eden says Sutton intervened to save his life during a prison riot in one thousand nine hundred five unless tonight's execution is stopped suddenly become the fifth Tennessee prisoner to be killed by electric chair. Since two thousand eighteen. A federal appeals court ruled Wednesday. The State of Florida cannot require formerly incarcerated people to pay all fines related to their sentences before they can register to vote comparing it to an unfair poll tax voting rights advocates warned. The Republican led move would have disenfranchised many of the one point. Four million people who are Rian franchised in two thousand eighteen. After Florida narrowly approved the historic ballot measure cold amendment for and in Argentina thousands of reproductive rights activists held protests and dozens of cities Wednesday to renew their push to legalize abortion public support for abortion. Rights has grown since two thousand eighteen when a bill to repeal an abortion ban narrowly lost in the Argentine Senate. This is Pamela Martin who joined a large protests and Wayne aside a city centre via the axiom. Today's the day of action for safe legal abortion. This is our third protest. February nineteenth is a day for political influence a day in which we ask ourselves to continue calling poor to demand and to struggle for our right to decide those or some of the headlines. This is democracy now democracy now DOT ORG the Warren Peace Report. I made me Goodman Broadcasting from Purdue University in West Lafayette Indiana in Las Vegas Nevada. The six leading candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination squared off Wednesday night and one of the most contentious debates of the long primary season Senator Bernie. Sanders defended his position as front runner in the Democrats nomination fight and former vice president. Joe Biden Mayor Buddha. Judge and Senator Amy Klobuchar tried to attract more supporters. Senator Elizabeth Warren led a night full of attacks on the new person on the stage billionaire former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg who struggled to address questions about his vast wealth his defensive stop and Frisk and treatment of women. The debate began with the questioning from moderator. Lester Holt Majority of Democratic voters still say their top priority is beating. President Trump Senator Senator Sanders. The first question to you. Mayor Bloomberg is pitching himself as a centrist who says he's best positioned to win in November. Why is your revolution a better? Bet IN ORDER TO BE DONALD TRUMP. We're GONNA need the largest voter turnout in the history of the United States. Mr Bloomberg had policies in New York City of stop and Frisk which went after African American and Latino people in an outrageous way. That is not a way. You're going to grow voter. Turn up our movement is about is bringing working class people together black and white and Latino native American Asian American around an agenda that works for all of us and not just the billionaire class. I'd like to talk about who were running against a billionaire who calls women fat broads and Hor States lesbians and no I'm not talking about Donald Trump. I'm talking about mayor. Bloomberg Democrats are not going to win if we have a nominee who has a history of hiding his tax returns of harassing women and of supporting racist policies like redlining and stop and Frisk. All support. Whoever the Democratic nominee but understand this democrats take a huge risk. If we just substitute one arrogant billionaire for another. This country has worked for the rich for a long time and left everyone else in the dirk. It is time to have a president who will be on the side of working families and be willing to get out there and fight for them. That is why I am in this race and that is how I will beat Donald Trump so well to unpack all of this and so much more from the Las Vegas debate. We're hosting a round table discussion. I'm in Indiana that's right. That's the home state of Pete. Buddha judge but joining me from New York is Katrina Vanden Heuvel editorial director and publisher of the nation. America's oldest weekly magazine. She's also a columnist for the Washington. Post Dot Com kill Willis is an activist and journalist based in New York City. She's endorsed Senator Elizabeth. Warren Are Chila. Is Co Executive Director of the Center for Popular Democracy which has endorsed Senator Bernie Sanders in December and in Houston Texas and east. Parker is with US former mayor of Houston now president of the Victory Fund which works to increase the number of LGBTQ officials and government and has endorsed Mayor Pete Buddha Judge for precedent the Victory Fund is the largest LBJ Tq political action committee in the United States. We welcome you ought to this democracy. Now Roundtable Katrina Vanden who vote. Let's begin with you. I mean to say the least it seems to me that Bernie. Sanders was very lucky last night because usually the guns are sort of focused on the number one candidate but instead they were all focused on the person who's not in on the ballot in Nevada and that is the newcomer to the stage billionaire. Michael Bloomberg that was one of those fiery democratic debates. I think we've all lived through mayor Bloomberg seem to amp everything up and it's right that the targets were focused on Mayor Bloomberg. What was important. Was it seemed that all the candidates especially Elizabeth Warren Elizabeth Warren Warrior back? You didn't hear the unity debates or any measure. She is the Comeback Woman of last night. But I think you know Bernie. Sanders spoke eloquently. About what he's doing I mean he is building a majority coalition of workers across race and region and Elizabeth. Warren came out fighting and rightly took Mayor Bloomberg for his comments about women and more important. What's going on not only in his workplace Bloomberg the allegations of sexual harassment workplace abuse but as the Nation reported. Amy and you spoke of this earlier are. Dc correspondent can clip and Berg received NDA campaign nondisclosure agreement that transparency experts say is so broad. That could really prohibit campaign. Staffers from reporting incidents of sexual harassment or workplace abuse. But I think last night you had an Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders the Progressive Wing of the party. They have won the ideas. Primary ideas once considered radical at the center of the Democratic Debate Bernie. Sanders is winning the money. Primary was small donors of great counter. To what the orgy of political spending mayor. Bloomberg is pushing out on this country and you got to wonder with all that money. Where was the debate? Prep for this guy. I mean it was lousy. So we don't need to dueling plutocrats as Elizabeth Warren said eloquently. We need people who represent what the Democratic Party could be so I think it was an important night and we will see moving forward but as we talk this morning it does look and one hates to put too much on poles because they're unpredictable but Bernie Sanders is leading across racial ideological and a economic educational grounds and certainly leading among a younger cohort. We'll see what the turnout looks like. Amy Because you heard Sanders. His theory of change is expanding the electorate and bringing in new voters and expanding. Turn out that has to be huge in order to overcome this this the president in the president. Well I mean as I understand it. The early voting in Nevada which is a little confusing since it is a caucus state more people. Something like seventy thousand people voted. That's about equal to all. That came out in the two thousand Sixteen Caucus. But let's go to part of the extended exchange between Mike Bloomberg and Elizabeth Warren on those allegations of sexual harassment. This begins with a question from Holly Jackson. Several former employees have claimed that your company was hostile workplace for women when you were confronted about it. You admitted making sexually suggestive remarks. Saying that's the way I grew up in a lawsuit in the nineteen nineties according to The Washington Post one former female employees alleged that you said quote I would do a second should democrats expect better from their nominee. Let me let me say couple things in if I can have my full minute and a quarter frank you. I have no tolerance for the kind of behavior that the metoo movement movement has exposed and anybody that does anything wrong in our company. We investigate it and if it's appropriate. They're gone that day. But let me tell you what I do it. My Company and my foundation and in city government. When I was there in my foundation the person that runs it's a woman seventy percent of the people there are women in my company. Lots and lots of women have big responsibilities. They paid exactly the same as men and in my city hall person. That's the top person. Might Deputy mayor was a woman and forty percent of our commissioners for women. I am very proud of the fact that about two weeks ago. We were awarded. We were voted the most from the best place to work second best place in America if that doesn't say something about our employees and how happy they are. I don't know what does Senator Award even critical on this issue. Yes I have and I hope you heard what is defense was. I've been nice to some women. Does the mirror has to stand on his record and what we need to know. Exactly what's lurking out there? He has gotten some number of women. Dozens who knows to sign nondisclosure agreements. Both for sexual harassment and for gender discrimination in the workplace. So Mr Mayor. Are you willing to release all of those women from those nondisclosure agreements? So we can hear their side of the story. We have a very few nondisclosure agreements. How many Finnish comedies? None of them accused me of doing anything of than maybe they didn't like a joke. I told and let me just let me point agreements between parties. That wanted to keep it quiet. And that's up to them. They signed those agreements. And we'll live with so wait when you say it is. I just WANNA be clear. Some is how many and and when you and when you say they sign them and they wanted them if they wish now to speak out until their side of the story about what it is they alleged. That's now okay with you. You're releasing them on television tonight company and somebody else in this manner woman could be more than that. They decided when they made an agreement that they wanted to keep it quiet for everybody's interests come. They sign the agreements. And that's what we're going to get. The question is or drowned by being muzzled by you and you could release them from that immediately because understand. This is not just a question of the mayor's character. This is also a question about electability. We are not going to be. Donald trump with a man who has who knows how many non disclosure agreements and the drip drip drip of stories of women saying they have been harassed and discriminated against. That's not stop. Said we're not going to get to end these agreements. Because they were made consensually and they have every right to expect that they will stay private. They want to release. It should be able to release themselves day. Yes last voice was former vice president Joe Biden but the main part of course bill billionaire mayor Mike Bloomberg being attacked and criticized by Senator Elizabeth Warren We are also joined by Raquel Willis. She is the executive editor of out magazine. And she personally has endorsed Elizabeth Warren. Can you respond to this back and forth? Absolutely I feel like senator. Warren came out swinging last night. She was not afraid. And then we're really going to talk about ELIGIB- electability. She really demonstrated that last night. I mean a lot of the conversation around her. The candidate has been whether people think but she could actually be elected or whether she could actually hold someone like trump accountable and we really saw the failings of Mike Bloomberg. I mean we feed this. How much of a demagogue? How discussing trump has been and has history and also currently and the policies that he has enacted and so why would we think so much would change under a Bloomberg administration? And so I think Senator Warren really deathly came at him. Made sure to hold him accountable in the moment and really made a point about us. Not Electing leaders who want to silence marginalized people particularly women and of course. This is a key debate for senator. Warren who has been slipping in the polls and fundraising made a lot of money. Just last night as this debate was going on and afterwards absolutely absolutely. I think that this was the night that all of the supporters for Senator Warren have been wanting my saw a lot of people saying on Social Media. How you know. Where has this Senator Warren Ben? And she's always been there. I think now she is really taking on New Strategy. She's making sure that people understand she's not just going to be there only to present her plans where she's GonNa hold people accountable for what they have or have not put out planning wise. I'm really think she had another strong moment. particularly around healthcare. I'll see garnered a lot of ir from the Progressive Wing of our electorate around her plan for Medicare for all particularly in comparison to Senator Sanders. And I think she really made some great points about not thinking that Clovis are really had a plan. You know really thinking that Pete was kind of blowing mayor. Buddha Zaza was really kind of blowing path Some of the finer notes on what the people actually want and people want health care. People want to be covered so I think it was a great night for her and I think that it also is important that Bloomberg was fully held accountable. Fresh out the gate. I think a lot of folks have been worried about what his presence in the camp and the election season means Folks have been very worried and saying you know he's buying the election and of course I think a lot more of it about buying delegates more than anything else but I think it was important for his first showing on the national stage. It's to be one where he was really held to the fire. And we'll see you know what it looks like for him. So maybe recover if he tries to do that. But I think Senator Warren had a great night if last night was a dress rehearsal for taking. I'm trump with Bloomberg as the stanton of course former Republican. Warren clearly had a very good night the very interesting. How little trump was raised last night? We're going to go to a break and then come back to more of this summer calling well much more than the rumble in the jungle. Perhaps Yeah Mayor. Bloomberg the data in Nevada. Stay with us. 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Yes the Democratic debate in Las Vegas where the six leading. Democratic candidates faced off on one of the most contentious debates of the long primary season. This is Senator Elizabeth Warren criticizing her opponents healthcare plans Moody Jentzsch really has a slogan that was thought up by consultants to paper over a thin version of a plan that would leave millions of people unable to afford their healthcare. It's not a plan. It's powerpoint and amy's plan is even last. It's like a post. It note Insert clan here has started very much. has a good start but instead of expanding and bringing in more people to help instead his campaign relentlessly attacks everyone who asks a question or tries to fill in details about how to actually make this work and then his own advisers say probably won't happen anyway and this is a moderator. Msnbc's Chuck Todd Questioning Bernie Sanders. There are some Democrats who like you a lot but worry that this plan. Medicare for all is going to take away private insurance and that it goes too far. Are they right? Let me be very clear you two points for a hundred years from Teddy Roosevelt. To Barack Obama country has been talking about the need to guarantee healthcare for people and yet today despite spending twice as much per capita chuck twice as much as any other major country on earth. We got eighty seven million who are uninsured or underinsured. We got over sixty thousand people die every year because they don't get to a doctor time we're getting ripped off outrageously by the greed and corruption of the pharmaceutical industry which in some cases charges US ten times more for the same drugs because of their price fixing five hundred thousand. People go bankrupt every year because they can't afford medical bill to let me be very clear to my good friends in the culinary workers. Union Greg Union. I will never sign a bill that will reduce the healthcare benefits. They have we will only expanded for them for every union in America for the working class of this country and this is MSNBC moderator Chuck. Todd questioning Senator Sanders. Oh that was what we just heard. We're going to go now to Anna. Maria CHILA CO Executive Director of the Center for Popular Democracy. That's the progressive advocacy group that has endorsed Senator Sanders Respond to the debate last night and particularly talk about healthcare healthcare continues to be the most important issue for most people in this country. I knocked on doors in New Hampshire leading up to the primaries there. I knocked on doors in Nevada just a few days ago and every person I spoke to said that healthcare was their number one issue. I met a young woman. Puerto Rican woman in New Hampshire. Who told me that she pays eleven thousand dollars in premiums? She makes around thirty five thousand dollars a year And then she has to pay five thousand dollars deductible and the health care the health insurance that she has does not cover the things she needs. What Senator Sanders has committed to do is to make sure that everyone in this country can access healthcare at without having to pay anything at the point of service that all of us are going to contribute something to make sure that everyone can go to the doctor that no one goes bankrupt because they have an illness that no one has to choose between paying their rent and paying their healthcare. This is the most important issue for people across this country. And a commitment a clear eyed commitment to Medicare for all is the only way to make sure that we stop having these morally bankrupt system that prioritizes profit for insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies over the lives of people. There was a study just recently published by Yale University. That documents how Medicare for all will save over four hundred million dollars a year for people in this country and sixty thousand lives. The debate that is happening inside the Democratic Party about healthcare is actually about Is Not just about healthcare is about what kind of democracy we have. What role does government plane? People's lives Bernie says the role that government should play. Is One of making sure that people have everything they lift everything? They need to live with dignity. Health care access to college without having to be burdened by debt forever access to housing the ability to take care of their families and what centers Democrats and billionaires like. Mike Bloomberg says no we need to. The parties should focus on still continue to prioritize the needs of the one percent and that is not what people want in that way millions and millions of people in this country are excited by Bernie Sanders campaign and see themselves at reflecting his platform and see in him. Someone they can trust someone who they believe because he has been very consistent for decades about the kinds of politics that he believes a our country and our people deserve. I wanted to also ask you on radio chiller. Who's just back from Nevada than you're heading to go back there right away about this questioning of Senator Amy Klobuchar Chart. You're running your Washington experience but last week in Telemundo interview you could not name the president of Mexico or discuss any of his policies last night. You defend yourself saying quote. This is in jeopardy but my question to you is shouldn't our next president. No more about one of our largest trading partners force and don't think that that momentarily momentary forgetfulness actually reflects what I know about Mexico and how much I care about it and I. I wanted to say greetings to President Lopez Oprah door secondly I what I meant by the game of jeopardy is that I think we could all come up with things you know. How many members are there in? The Israeli Knesset One Hundred Twenty. Who IS THE PRESENT AND DOORS? Hernandez trivial actually. Didn't know how many members were in the Knesset. You're sticking your candidacy on your Washington experience. You're on the committee that oversees border security. You're on the committee that does trade. You're literally in part of the committee. That's overseeing these things and we're not able to speak to literally the first thing about the politics of the crash rees ourself. Are you trying to say that? I'm are you mocking me here? Pete trivial? I made an error people. Sometimes forget names. I am the one that has number. One has experience based on passing over one thing if I could respond. This was a pretty big McCullough Gatien. He's basically saying that. I don't have the experience to be president of the United States. I have passed over one hundred bills as lead Democrat since being in the US. Senate I am the one not you that has won statewide in Congressional district Congressional district and I will say when you tried in Indiana Pete to run. What happens to you you lost by over twenty points to someone who later lost my friend Joe Donnelly. So don't tell me about experience. What UNITES US here? Is We to win. I think we should put a proven winner in charge of the ticket this race for president if winning the race for Senate in Minnesota translated directly to becoming President. I would have grown up under the presidency of Walter. Mondale this is different. Just defend senator charge for a minute. This is not right. I understand that she happens. It happens to everybody on this stage. Want to ask about whether or not you understand. Trade policy with Mexico have added. And if you get it wrong man. You ought to be held accountable for that. You want to ask about the economy and get it wrong. Your body be held accountable. You want to ask about a thousand different issues and you get it wrong. You ought to be held accountable. But let's just be clear missing a name. All by itself does not indicate that you do not understand what's going on. I just think that was Senator Elizabeth Warren before that former South Bend mayor people to judge and of course Senator Amy Klobuchar Chila your response to her forgetting. Also Tom Steyer. The billionaire presidential candidate also said he could not remember 'em lows name. I mean. Listen. We're not talking about a country far away from here. We're talking about the biggest neighbor that the country with whom we have been negotiating border policy the country from where most immigrants in this country come from you have to know the name of the President of Mexico. You have to know who he is and what he stands for. Lopez overload represents a whole transformation of Mexican politics. You cannot run for president and not know the basic facts. I understand people forget things in a moment. it did not seem like Senator Klobuchar had much to say about who Lopez over is or what he represents. It also speaks to their their lack of attention to international policy to border policy to migration policy in all of these debates. We saw one question on immigration. The very last question only Senator Club which are was asked and she was allowed to speak for several minutes. On just platitudes about dreamers. When in reality my community immigrant communities have been under attack and these administration relentlessly people have been separated from their children at the border. People have been terrorized all over the country. There is an a steady attack against a local electoral visuals that are trying to protect president of cities and sanctuary cities and The debate last night was basically just allowing Amy Klobuchar Who just a few days before made really Disparaging and silly pandering jokes in her conversation with the culinary workers to allow her to speak about dreamers without talking about the importance of undoing the immigration enforcement system. That's hurting families and terrorizing communities. without Asking her or any of the other candidates about how they will use their executive power to protect immigrants To abolish is to break a border patrol to stop deportations. There was so much more discuss and and the debate again like many of the other debates did not go there as you said. There was only one question immigration but there were protesters who interrupted vice-president Biden at the end as they chanted you deported. Three million people know kids in cages. Don't look away. I wanted to bring a niece parker into the conversation former mayor of Houston Texas President of the LGBTQ Victory Fund which works increasing the number of openly LGBTQ officials and government has endorsed mayor. Buddha judge for president is Amy Klobuchar tried to defend herself for forgetting the Mexican President's name by saying to peep Buddha judge suggesting that I'm done your thoughts in East Parker. Think in the heat of the moment the a lot of things were said last night what. I appreciated about mayor budgeted. Is that as he has done. In every one of the debates he continued to not just attempt to speak to Democratic primary voters he was trying to speak to the broader American electorate and to keep focused on the priority in this campaign which is to alternately beat Donald Trump. It's unfortunate that we've reached the point in the campaign where people are throwing elbows onstage and not staying focused on. Let's have a robust policy debate so that we can prepare ourselves for a win in November. And why did you endorse When the Victory Fund indoors South Bend Former Mayor Pete? Buddha judge mayor candidacy his candidacy is why we exist. As an organization. We are focused on achieving more equal representation of the LGBTQ community in American political life at all levels of government We didn't endorse him when he first entered the campaign fact. I had a conversation with him and said you're going to have to get out there and compete on a level playing field and show that you belong on the national stage as a candidate for president. He did that over and over again. And last June we endorsed him. I believe personally and I believe as the head of my organization that he's the best candidate for this job. I wanted to go to a moment. That wasn't last night but was the night before when people to judge was being questioned by Erin Burnett he he was in a CNN town hall and he was being asked about the horrific homophobic comments. you know the conservative radio host rush limbaugh who went into a homophobic rampage against people to judge. This was limbaugh on his radio show. They're looking at Mayor Pete thirty-seven-year-old Gay Guy. Mayor South Bend loves to kiss his husband on the debate stage. And they're saying okay. How's this going to thirty-seven-year-old Gay Guy? Kissing his husband on stage next to Mr Mann. Donald TRUMP. What's going to happen there? And they got to be looking at that and they've got to be saying that despite all the great progress despite all the great weakness and despite all the great ground has been covered. America still not ready to elect a gay Guy. Kissing his husband on the debate stage president. So this was Erin. Burnett questioning people to judge about this in the town hall the night before the debate the idea of the likes of Rush Limbaugh or Donald Trump lecturing anybody on family values about my marriage is. It's never involved me having to send hush money to a porn star after cheating on my spouse so they wanNA debate family values. Let's debate family values. I'm ready unease Parker. If you'd like to respond well you have rush. Limbaugh doing the same stick. Limbaugh has done for a couple of decades now and peed booted edge going directly to that we know as an organization and I know personally that Americans will vote for capable qualified. Lgbt candidates when they are the right candidate for the job and they have the good policies and they are prepared to lead we've elected LGBTQ leaders at every level of government in America every state every level every position except president of the United States. That's just the next step. I happen to believe that. He is ready for that next step. And he's positioned himself and he's not gonNA take the bait. That's what's so amazing about Pizza. Ability to focus on the shoes and let the attacks follow away. Do I believe that Americans are ready for? Lgbt president yes. Do I believe Americans are ready for a woman president? Yes do I believe. Americans are ready to vote. Donald trump out of office yet and one of the People. Yes and yet. One of the people on that stage last night has to be ready to step up and take the mantle. I'm proud of all of the candidates. I am particularly proud that as a body as a party. Democrats have advanced so far on. Lgbtq issues but they're not that far away from where. The American population is. Well Raquel Willis the executive editor of out magazine your thoughts on people to judge and why. You CHOSE TO ENDORSE Senator Warren. So I think it's great you know that He is an openly. Gay Candidate However I do think that it's important for us to remember that your identity isn't enough And exactly what was the sad as as a Trans Black Trans Woman? It doesn't necessarily tell me what you stand for when you tell me that you know. We're in the same community and for me. It was important to really endorse someone that I have been very intentional about their outreach. Particularly to lgbtq organizers black and brown organizers who are on the ground and so the campaigns that have done that have really spoken to me. And I think Senator Warren has done that probably better than actually I would say. She's definitely done that better than the other campaigns. The other thing I will say is that I think what also is important is when I really look at what a mayor Buddhism stands for. He stands for the status quo. He stands for kind of not really rocking the boat enough. He fills that particularly someone like Senator Elizabeth. Warren who is really out there interested in tackling corruption on levels and the government is is really gunning for Fi. The isn't necessary and I think that that is so necessary. I think that we really have to have a conversation about how even when you are of a marginalized group. You may have many privileges. And so the way that. The world operated in twenty-six both in twenty sixteen before trump was an office may have been fine for you. I mean I think that for a lot of lgbtq folks particularly those who are black and brown more marginalize we need more we do need a revolution people were hurting before we meet people who are fighting for those who are incarcerated fighting for those who are detained fighting for those who are trying to access a healthcare system that has really ignored them for so long. And I think that someone like Senator Elizabeth Warren who was really trying to uproot and get out of here. All of that corruption is who we need to be standing behind and this moment because as you will notice the and particularly at the mayor's clothing statement last night he made a statement that he's gunning for people who aren't interested in status quo and aren't interested in the revolution. That really makes no sense. You know I think that you have to be very clear about where you stand and for me. I think maybe he's afraid to say that he stands for the status quo. But I know what the people that I roll with in. Lgbtq community are looking for and they're looking for something that is going to blow past the status quo that has forgotten us for so long or another way people to judge put it was. We shouldn't have to choose between one candidate who wants to burn this party down and another Who wants to buy this party out? We have to break. And then we're GONNA come back to the discussion. This is democracy now stay with us. The instrumental version of tried by twelve by East flatbush project. This is democracy now. I'm Amy Goodman Broadcasting from Indiana as we debrief on the Democratic presidential primary debate last night in Las Vegas where the six leading candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination squared off. Let's go to a question from as MSNBC's Chuck Todd. On delegates to the Democratic National Convention should the person with the most delegates at the end of this primary season be the nominee even if they are short of a majority center centers on electrical last year. Because I know your view on this so instead I will start with you mayor Bloomberg whatever. The rules of the Democratic Party are they should be followed and it's they have a process which I do. Everybody can continue on the convention to work. Its will yes Senator Award Convention working. Its will means that people have the delegates the pledged to them and they keep those delegates until convention able alright Vice President Biden play by this or now leading person with the delegation they'd be the nominee or not. Let the process work. Its way out not necessarily not to listen to enter the process work Senator Sanders well. The process includes five hundred super delegates of the second ballot. I think will of the people yes should be called the garden that last Voice of course Senator Bernie Sanders. Who At this point? According to all the polls is the front runner with the Nevada caucus on Saturday Katrina Vanden heuvel editorial director and publisher of the nation. Explain the brokered convention and what Bernie. Sanders was saying and what the other candidates were saying. Let me step back for a minute. Though if I might amy one reason the nation is holding debate this coming Monday February Twenty Fourth Bernie Sanders versus Warren Sanders and Warren. Time to choose is that the nation has not endorsed a candidate yet. Except we've endorsed the deepening of the left lane in our politics the deepening of issues of bold issues that both Sanders and Warren have pushed in the belief that in solidarity and you saw last night at the debate a kind of tacit truce between them when the moderator asked Warren to talk about Bernie Sanders supporters and the alleged abuse online. She said No. I'm GonNa Talk About Bloomberg. He's the real threat to what we believe. And I think that solidarity is important moving forward to the convention because if Bernie Sanders comes in and doesn't have enough delegates. He is winning pluralities but the size of the turnout is going to be critical in these next states to bring him enough delegates to get into that convention with fifty. Plus he's going to need to turn to allies if you don't win on that first ballot as Bernie. Sanders said he got a little wrong. Because I think it's seven hundred super delegates not five hundred it will get thrown to the super delegates. Who are you know? It's they are the establishment of the Democratic Party in some cases. They're also organizers improve. The domestic care workers is a super delegate which surprises some but for the most part there are the electives the establishment those who really were for Hillary Clinton in two thousand sixteen so if you have a contested election goes to a second ballot and the super delegates throw it not to the one with the most delegates maybe Bernie Sanders with support from Warren. You could see a outrage. And a sense of a rigged convention that would deflate enthusiasm. Deflate turn out in the general and I think that is a real concern for many and I think that's why the process should play out fairly and why people should come to our debate on the twenty fourth two here two candidates their views they we will have their surrogates to Zep for teach out great expert on corruption who ran for attorney generally recently bus Carson car of Jakobsen and on the side of Luth warn Maurice Mitchell of the Working Families Party Brad Lander of the city council. But I think this is a moment arguably where America's really eager for bold leadership bold progressive ideas. I will say one more thing about Chuck Todd and the moderation. This is something that you have talked a lot about amy. The media coverage the media coverage it almost seems especially television panels cable panels or these moderated debates people seem to have a hard time with the frame framework for understanding progressive politics. There's a rudeness in the status quo. And a failure of Magic to imagine a world beyond the status quo and I think that really hurts our discussion or politics imagine of a moderator asked a Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren. What are the cost of not doing the green new deal or Medicare for all. Or why are there no questions from the moderators often? Amy about the cost of endless war. But there's always a question about the cost of doing major bold programs that would improve. There were no question of air where no major questions on foreign policy but I wanted to go to end with Chila. Who's just come back from Nevada and going back there in two thousand sixteen. Although Hillary Clinton one I believe that Bernie Sanders pulled a great deal higher among the Latino community and the Tino coming community is coming out in force in Nevada which is about something like almost thirty percent of the vote a third of the vote here final thoughts as we move into the Nevada caucus on Saturday. Well let the communities. The Latino community has been under intense attack By this president by president trump but also has been at the bottom of our economy Has Been at the bottom of scoop school graduations and I think what what Sanders speaks to my community. Is this idea that he is committed to building a country that includes all of us So when he says that he that we're going to have healthcare for all and that includes everybody including undocumented people. That's what my people here. When he says that he's committed to making sure that we have debt free college and that will include also young people who are new in this country that speaks volumes to to my community I think what we are seeing a big difference that we're seeing from two thousand sixteen to now is that Bernie. Sanders has really been able to create the most multi racial most diverse coalition of young people people of Color. Black folks letting next folks Immigrants who UNAMERICAN and there but I wanNA thank you so much being with us. Ana Maria Chila Co Director of the Center for Popular Democracy Katrina Vanden Heuvel a publisher of the Nation magazine. Activist and editor. Racquel Willis executive editor of out magazine and former Houston mayor. A niece. Parker I wanNA thank you all for being with us. Democracy knows currently accepting applications for Development Manager Position and news production fellowship and news producer. Check our website democracy now dot org tomorrow the anniversary of the assassination of Malcolm x. The cases being reopened. I'm Amy Goodman from Indiana. Thanks so much.

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"Walkman background girls shanty here. The founder of the Brownsboro skype politics. The one stop shop podcasts. For Women of color who want to hear and talk about the world of politics as we continue with our collaboration. Was she the people we're highlighting women from their twenty color to watch twenty twenty less. These are all barrier-breaking women. Her changing the political landscape this year and beyond. Helen is a powerhouse. She is a former teacher. Education activists and the first Asian American woman elected to the Philadelphia City Council. Some of her compliments include ending a state takeover of the public schools expanding renter's rights and passing a law guaranteeing predictable schedules for retail that sued and hotel workers for twenty twenty. She is helping build a movement of transformative political change from the bottom up. I hope you enjoy this conversation. Thank you so much for joining us today. How're you doing? We're in there. You know in the time of like massive crisis. Sometimes deal is like shoutout women that I love. Oh we love that on the BG genius. No less due at grief boxes in ancestor Elected trite was radical activists of past. Just before her centennial but has been a historic figure in local action. And you know just being thoughtful and passionate about world immediately around you because sometimes you can actually change the broader world when you engage locally. So she's been my for a long time has been cut star. Leads DOWN Northstar Harley? Talk about it and times. You need help so I want to talk a little bit about your background in how you got into politics so your background is as a teacher. Definitely sending the lab to all of our teachers right now who are having to do virtual learning and distance learning but one of the things that I have truly found that teachers make amazing activists an amazing elected officials. So what made you really take the leap into politics? So I think one of the things that I mean you know. I didn't come into politics early in my life and I actually only came into it once. It felt like there was so much organizing particularly around the area that I've been active in which was like public schools in education lip. Much later in my life so I spent twenty years or so doing community organizing and I was so lucky to come out of a radical group of bad ass Asian American women who have formed a incredible matriarchial at a small scrappy organization called Asian Americans United. And when I was looking for what to get involved in here in Philadelphia so and said you have to a you. They're going to change the world so I went to the little store front in Chinatown and walked through the doors. And I've been there and for the last twenty thirty years Many of them were teachers. They saw teaching and the work in the classroom as an extension of their political thinking and how to get an engage with community members through young people to see a multigenerational approach to things and so from an early time period. I understood at the most real apple what it meant for communities especially Martinez communities or color an young people to have this ability and voice in a moment and to me that is the most powerful thing that we can teach ourselves our young people off following generations because we fundamentally believe that telling our stories can change the world in totally with you a hundred percent on storyteller rain that's BG exists to tell the amazing stories of women like you. And I do want to pivot a little bit because you have this great background and social justice work particularly standing up against discrimination currently in Asia. Kobe we are seeing a ridiculous amount of against the API community. What are some of the things that our listeners can do to support the API community in call out this unjust discrimination will one is to recognize it and take it seriously like? I think a lot of people when they hear harassment of you know kinda shrug their shoulders. Look the other way. Bigger Vincent play and actually one of the things we've been pointing out is that President or other individuals peddling untruths via in order to deflect from incompetence or for this feeling that they're doing in terms of like taking a half a trillion dollars of that Relief package go towards because companies with absolutely no oversight. It's about recognizing that this heat goading of immigrants is idea that we're getting the virus China. We're actually getting from one another means that don't take care of each other. In the same way that the issue blaming scapegoating rather than focus in on the essential needs a public health of our central workers or on black and Brown communities. They're suffering worse is a nineteen pandemic. And it's making sure that race and racial justice in racial attentiveness awareness is bringing us closer together non about sympathies or other rain Asian Americans. Moment is recognizing that there is a purposeful attempt to blame a. B. Is scapegoat other people to cast blame so that others don't take a look at what's happening underneath their actual nurses so first and foremost he get seriously second like engage holid- out with it. I'm always surprised myself. Let get surprise when these things come right into your face. Your people curse at your spinach right in your face. It's shocking and alarming and a lot of people can't fathom that moment in other external actors were not experiencing the exact harassment. Can step in and make something. Take a moment. That is deeply shocking. Unjust Atr Amend. The last thing is is not gonNa really focus in pulled together and it's whether the racism is happening during the nineteen with scapegoating of immigrants and men like four profit private prison industries that are now pandemic centers for disease. You know we really got to be hyper attentive to the fact that xena phobia that's being spread is deliberate and purposeful that people profit from it. Thank you for sharing that. I want to talk a little bit more about local progress. You are the National Co Chair and it is made up of all municipal officials. What's the power of local politics right now? The the understanding is that this work the work of politics. The work of transforming our country is largely at the local level will need take a look at the fact that seventy percent of Americans have little to no faith in Congress. The after recognize that healing our politics has to begin in a much more. Trust building kind of ever and adult one neutralize politics at the local level for example. There have been some people who said. Hey look there's there's no partisan politics delivering trash picking up. You know making sure that your water's clean. And that is very true. At some levels that I think politics has to be radicalized at the local level. And what I've been incredibly encouraged by is that there are so many. New People organizers and activists recognizing that hey if we want to change our criminal justice awesomeness important position to take on right now. Is Your District Attorney's if you WanNa take on a educational injustice and the privatization of education school boards have a huge role to play around all of that and if we wanted her about you know housing protections rental rights when the president or Congress are stalled out on immigration reform can establish a sanctuary city yard. We can this tablet an immigrant. Legal Defense can establish a right to counsel to protect ranchers in landlord tenant court you know and I think he's an incredibly powerful to demonstrate that local politics is actually a vehicle for transformative change especially when it's matched with our organizing communities. I come out of organizing communities grassroots communities for change whether or not people who Congress understand Asian Americans united in in Philadelphia is really different than when city council here recognizes or. Here's an Asian Americans. United is coming to visit city council. It makes a bigger difference. Were of the one of the largest cities in the country. The sixth largest city in the nation there are one point six people within our boundaries and a water a wider five million member regional economy. That depends on Philadelphia. We are the poorest large city in the country or predominantly of color. And you have a different way of doing politics here. And that should be evidenced at our local rebels so here. We're going to prioritize protections going to prioritize housing as a human rights. We're going to prioritize care for all at a basic income that means something to people were not going to privatize rules and shut them down. Like we did in the past We're fighting for educational justice. We're fighting to to see real change in our policing and our institutions and car serrate as a central role in our economic prosperity and in our help. And I think those since translate immobilized a activate at the local level in order for us to get the capacity to do the same thing at the national level so Johnnie. Transforming politics starts at home and for all your listeners. Who are out there who think that you know. The only politics is about a hierarchy at Congress and then your state and then your local in fact I find the opposite is true that in fact you know the most powerful work that you need done right now is in our school boards in our in our District Attorney's office in our sheriff's department in our voting rights and in our in our city councils and our mayor's so inspired by so many people all over the country right now who are in the midst of this pandemic issuing rent freezes establishing rent control talking about real change in terms of Carso rating and depopulating our prisons in the ways that they should have been done in the first But we're really seeing that means at the local level much faster than we're seeing ideas at the national gas. All politics is local in I in my professional career on the president of emerge and what we noticed is that in the absence of the leadership that we have from the man in the White House. It has been the state and local leaders who have been stepping up a particularly are women leaders and our women of color leaders. They've been the ones who have been getting things done so truly politics. Oh call in. You said something that I really would love for you to expand on. Is You talked about coming into politics later in your life? This is something I hear from women all the time when I'm encouraging them to run for office is there like You know I'm too old. That's for the young people wet advice. You have for those women who are saying that but they still want to make change because like you did it in your absolutely freaking killing it. So how do we get more? Helen's in office. The first thing is to recognize that what we are doing here in every single woman. Who's listening right? Now is proof that our lives and our experiences can never be interpreted through the lens of pundits operatives and big party machines. Voters don't want a walking resume and they don't want a set of focus group. Hone talking points. They want enough benthic in real person that speaks to issues that come out of our communities and I think what women understand is that every single day we get up and we go out and we fix the world. We fixed the world for our families. We the world for our neighborhoods in our communities. We fix the world for our children and for our schools and that this is politics. This is fundamentally what politics is about. It's about the energy. The experiences and the womanhood that amenity the weirdness at got to lead torn nation forward and to me women are built for this moment. And what comes next has to be up to us. We are here to kick the doors in because this country needs a major kick. And whether it's GonNa Happen. With combat bits kitten heels or red stilettos. It's GonNa Happen from a Badass women standing up speaking her truth and saying that this country is GonNa Change. It's GonNa Change for Black and Brown people and for immigrant. People in this country is going to change for every little girl growing up right now. It's going to change for here and Trans People especially people of color who are fighting just to stay alive in this moment and it's it is about all of us and our experiences matter more than ever. It's about making ourselves political and politically savvy so that we can take two minutes and tell stories so that we can go out and move rooms and then hallways and then audiences and then a city to change and that kind of approach I think is what we have to get away from this idea that powers hierarchical power is local and radical racial lies power for justice and transformative. Change must be local. Because that is where it's going to be truly truly transplanted as you might guess. From the many conversations with our guests here on the Brown Girls Guide fundraising is no small task. 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Serving organizations in a requires them to create policies protecting trans a non binary youth and then display those policies on their website in inside their physical locations. What drove you to pass this bell. I've been working with Lgbtq communities for a long time here in the city of Philadelphia we helped establish like the first anti harassment policies anti bullying policies at the school district of Philadelphia. For example. You know. A lot of my work comes out of talking to young people and actually this one is very personal. Certainly it's been echoed in many places that One of my close friends Daughters who is non binary in attempts an all girls high school here was told that she had to graduate with traditional dress like girls wear white dresses and boys wear suits and nothing was going to change that. And that's the way things were going to be fixed. And so we did a lot to change graduation policies throughout the school district. But you know obviously like as these conversations grow and expand in you work with young people we have been working with young people around Housing and homelessness issues. We've been working with young people to access resources and services and they were very clear that a lot of organizations nonprofits youth serving groups do not have any affirmative policies that deal with transient non binary gender non conforming youth. So we passed a pretty significant expansion of our nondiscrimination law to ensure that all youth serving organizations here in the city of Philadelphia. Have to have you know have to have affirmative policies around Trans and gender non conforming youth because it matters so much To enable people to participate and because it's fundamental to ensuring that you are truly accessible to the broader public. That is so great and thank you for that work in. I WanNa talk to about two bills that you helped pass at deal with worker protection laws. Something that is very much in the forefront of the news at the time so one deals with guaranteeing two weeks advance notice schedules for the hundred and thirty thousand hourly workers in the city and you also co sponsor the domestic worker's bill of rights. We've talked law on the podcast about domestic workers and this will provide labor protections to the city's sixteen thousand nannies housekeepers and caretakers. Tell us more about these bills and why they are so important especially in times like now. It's a sad story of the American economy that you can talk about prosperity by defining through Wall Street and corporate actors in tickertape that runs across the bottom of the screen on you know on CNBC or something. And so you know it's become really clear that the stratification of the American economy has a lot to do with the fact that we've basically abandoned job quality we've been in pursuit of job quantity And we have completely neglected the quality of jobs that exist and those are populated by Black Brown immigrant folks especially women and young people as well and they are largely cut out of protections. Many of them are hourly workers are not on salary. Many of them are classified as Independent. Contractors are part of the GIG economy and so they don't even pay into any kind of protective system so we would love to see things happen at the congressional level at the federal level at the state level. Anything to protect people who are the majority of workers here in the city of Philadelphia. Major cities like Philadelphia Rely on a service economy. They are the vast majority of jobs that populate our city and they are poor pain they don't have protections so we decided to do it at the local level and this is where groups like local progress and other organizations. Good jobs I center for Popular Democracy and others have been very policy. Link for example have been very active in seeing local laws advanced labor protections that are stagnant. And we've been. I've been proud to lead the advance. Scheduling we call it fair. Workweek CAIRN Philadelphia guarantees two weeks advance notice of schedule. And I think to some people. It's hard to imagine that you know this law would be necessary but the reality is is that some eighty percent of part-time hourly workers here in Philadelphia. Do not have a regular daytime work schedule. So they don't know when they're working day to day week to week necessarily which means they can predict their weekly income and thus can predict the rent. We established a basic advanced notice law. Similarly we have no protections for domestic workers they are completely cut out of state laws that govern this area I hope any of our elected officials. That are listening will listen to Helen and do the same thing at the local level in. I really love what you just said. And when it comes to City Council Meetings County Commission meetings. We know a lot of people. Don't pay attention to them. They won't attend wit advice. You have for the people listening. Who wants to make the change that you just talked about? Who want to see them southcenter. How should they be reaching out? To Their City Council people their county commissioners all of their local elected officials. Because we know not. Everyone's going to be like you when they're really out in the community doing work. How do they get their attention so that they can get? These types of bills passed in their cities. So the first thing I always say is no No what you want and know. Who are the people around you? It's less I think there's been ideas about power and how you move things at center and hyper celebrity kinds of notions about individuals who are charismatic. Not TV all the time and to me. That's not actually how things changed. Things change when people move towards collective action hooking up with organizations in groups that are dedicated. Good at it and then Partnering with a People Within Your Council bodies our school boards or you know Active District Attorney's or your Defenders Association that are good and smart and people of integrity and a strategic to move things towards change. You know it's the key is. Is that local? Politics is hyper local. I mean it's not hard to get to. Your City Hall is blocks away. They need every week. You know you can kinda grab them in the hallway as he can pick up the phone and make a call. I'm grateful for groups like merge. I'm grateful for local progress I'm grateful for organizations and groups that are out there transforming and mobilizing people from activism to organize in Seen Mike the most unlikely people the most typically unlikely people to go into politics and then just to keep that door in and make the change that this that we need to see. Who so inspiring like y'all if you're not interested in running for office after that just like Howen said we need everybody and we started this interview with you lifting up one of your ancestors. Great woman and honesty. The people list everyone got to have their plus one so tell us about your plus wine Kendra rocks so Kendra Brooks is the first Independent candidate in the history of council city politics To win a seat on city councils she won in November of two thousand. Nineteen an at large seat. it's traditionally you know we're a democratic city. By measure seven to one for a long time there have been discussions about two seats that are at large on Zee Council that are reserved for a non majority party. Typically it's been ceded to a to our gop our local gop they are. It would be maybe one thing if they embrace a wide swath of GOP politics. But you know they've been largely reflective I've on the trail with them in November and they're largely reflective of the existing extremist. Gop In our in our national politics and so we knew that we had a shot to really mobilize base to happen. Think differently about the third party seat about majority seat on city council so she ran a historic campaign but we KENDRA anyone. She won by historic margins was incredibly exciting and she made history. And the most exciting thing I love about Kendra is out. We met on the front lines fighting for our schools She was along with four daughters. Her School is going to be taken over. Going to be close down converted to a charter school and the vote was going to be left to the parents there. She was the president of her School Advisory Council and she was thus in charge of this crazy process and she mobilized her community by a two to one vote to remain a public school and from there She only grew. She went and did national work with center. For Popular Democracy mobilizing the Federal Reserve Board to diversify its board and be more active of the communities that they represent a chose her to be on the school board nominating panel to pick our first school board in many years and And of course When it came to the twenty nine thousand nine municipal elections. It was a perfect fit. You know we were. It was wonderful to be in the room to announce the launch of her campaign but it was even more powerful to be an even bigger room to celebrate her victory and since she's come on along with some other council members he'd been really engaged in exciting. Were moving forward that big pot farm on Housing and Public Schools Racial Justice on our young people and on communities and seen Black Brown immigrant women be at the forefront of it. And it's you know it's it's energizing and joyful. It's hard work. Of course it's terrifying in many ways because we're at this moment in history where you know we we know the world is going to change after this like all of us are hopefully hunkered down in safe places with families said we love and who we can care for but But we know that no matter what after all of this The world is going to change. Our economy is going to change and it is going to be a fight to ensure that we change towards justice that we create a more equitable. And more just world and I feel confident that with Kendra by my side on city council. We have that much more opportunity to do something better than we did yesterday. So it's been hopeful that is so great this has been just such a wonderful interview. Helen just hearing everything from your background as a teacher encouraging women to run for office to become an active this to really start to lobby their elected officials but I have to close it out with our signature question wet advice you have for all the girls out there listening saying I want to be just like her I would say when they go low. We go local and that means get involved in the work that makes you powerful get involved in the work that gives you voice and leadership. Don't define politics just by WHO GETS TO HOLD THE SEAT. Who's got the title and the perceived power or money defined politics by your own power and You know get get local. Get active change the world. That is so great Helen. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for everything that you do. Thank you sean. Thanks for your tremendous work to with emerge and I'm grateful for your work and your vision to I think he's he's Sh. If you have a moment please take the time to rate and review us. 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The National Conversation Around Sexual Assault, One Year Since the Kavanaugh Hearings 2019-09-26

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The National Conversation Around Sexual Assault, One Year Since the Kavanaugh Hearings 2019-09-26

"WNYC studios is supported by Zuckerman spader a national litigation firm advising companies and business disputes internal investigations and commercial matters when the lawyer you choose choose matters most online at Zuckerman. Dot Com Democrats and Republicans are sharply divided over president trump's phone call with Ukraine like any mafia the boss the president didn't need to say that's a nice country. You have it'd be a shame is something happened to it because that was clear from the conversation. If you impeach the president oversees then you'll never have another election this'll be kit for cat every and that's all this is a mad cats and today on the takeaway for September twenty twenty-sixth. We'll try to make sense of the latest in the House impeachment story and get a GOP members take on president trump's dealing with Ukraine and when you're after Justice Brad Kavanagh was confirmed to the Supreme Court a political activist who confronted Senator Jeff Flake reflects on the fight to give a voice to women who have survived sexual assaults courage which is the currency that is contagious when you are in the presence of someone who is doing something difficult something courageous. You feel invited to do the same okay. Let's get started today. We're starting with a hearing on capitol. Hill of acting director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire and I am not familiar with any prior instances where a whistleblower complaint touched on such complicated and sensitive issues including you privilege I believe at this matter is unprecedented. Yesterday we were presented with the most graphic evidence yet that the president the United States has betrayed his oath of office this latest Gambit by the Democrats to overturn the People's mandate is unhinged and dangerous. I think that the decision assisted by the president yesterday to release the transcripts of his conversation with the president of the Ukraine is probably unprecedented as well that cannot be an ultimate shield against transparency currency. It can't be an ultimate shield against accountability. The president is not above the law now. We've seen this movie before. We've been here all year on litigating impeachments. Many Americans have seen this movie too many times and third tired of at any point during this process. Did you personally threatened to resign. If the complaint was not provided committee Congressman I did not I will say to my colleague standing here. I think you're nuts. If you think you're going to convince the American people the your causes just west by attacking this. Did you ever speak to the president about this complaint. My conversations with the president because I'm the director of National Intelligence are privileged and somebody's leaking this and it's likely coming from the agencies that you oversee the complaint. Bush referred to judicial department for Criminal Investigation Instigation. This was not swept under the rug for the hearing got underway the House Intelligence Committee released. A declassified version of the whistleblower complaint in the whistle blower writes quote in the course of my official duties. I have received information from multiple. US government officials that the president of the United States is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the two thousand twenty election later in the hour. We're going to hear from Republican House. Dismember Phil Roe on President Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Wlodimierz Alinsky but first we're going to get the latest on the story from Max Kuttner who covers the FBI Justice Justice Department in Russia probes and Rebecca Ball House Wall Street Journal White House reporter welcome to you both thank you so maxa wanted to start with you with. was there any any new information revealed in this hearing in addition to the whistle blower complaint made public this morning. It seems that much of the questioning was focused on the process of how this complaint it was handled right. Yeah Matt a lot of what the past couple of hours in the hearing have dealt with was more about the process it was trying to find out whether McGuire went onto the White House I about this complaint whether he went to the Justice Department I less was about the actual details of the complaint in fact it took about two you hours before Democrats on the panel really tried to get McGuire to talk about those details and even then he wouldn't really answer whereas especially at the beginning of the hearing it for what seemed like an endless amount of time the lawmakers were questioning whether he went to the Justice Department. I I or the White House. I he said he went to the Justice Department. Then he corrected that instead it was actually the White House and lawmakers then followed up with why would you go to these subjects of a complaint about that complaint to get permission on on whether to move forward with it and he also said he hadn't referred this complaint to the Congressional Channel Intelligence committees either right right he made clear that he had referred to the Justice Department he talked about how he talked about his decisions as for why he didn't think it should move forward to the congressional committees that being because it potentially contained privileged conversations involving the president and also because it did not fall under his purview in the intelligence community got it so that's what Democrats receiving on and Rebecca several Republicans were focusing on the fact that the whistle blower didn't have first hand information that this was coming to the whistle blower from other government officials is this missile pretty potent argument for the GOP hearing that also from Republican sources on the hill. I think that's certainly the message that the White House Republicans are trying to push in that we saw circulated in talking points that went from the White House to the hill yesterday is that they want to portray this whistle. Blower is someone who not only didn't know what they were talking about about but also had partisan motivations This is important to note given that it's not clear that anyone in the White House knows who the whistle blower is but but the president himself has been pushing this idea that it's someone who's out to get him. He's been tweeting various tweets accusing the whistle blowers lawyers of having partisan motivations looking at their record of donations to various political candidates so that's definitely the way that the the president is trying to discredit all the allegations in this complaint is by just saying that it's coming from a highly motivated source was just a partisan attack at this whole thing just being a partisan attack okay so we also heard from Republican House member Devon Nunez and he questioned the leaks that have made been made to the press around the story. Can we hear what the congressman had to say the intelligence community and the National Security Agency. Obviously you know they collect things to protect. I just want to make sure because I just I mean. Are we just gonNA foreign leaders have either the present United States not talk to foreign leaders or we should just or publish publish all the transcripts scripts because that's what's happening here ranking member. Somebody's leaking this and it's likely coming from from the agencies that you oversee. What do you make of that exchange between McGuire and Republican House member newness. This is nothing new Matt in all of these hearings we tend to hear Republicans and from ranking member Nunez soon as in particular they try and steer the conversation towards the leaking. That's that's been happening a lot. During the trump administration that kind of rhetoric during these hearings we also had had Nunez call the hearing today an information warfare operation against the president so clearly they are trying to paint this in a certain light and and I I think McGuire answered appropriately. They're also been reports. That Maguire threatened to resign if the White House prevented him from openly testifying in front of the House. I did that come up today. It did come up briefly. He had disputed that when the report came out yesterday and he disputed it again today and then they moved on from that Mex what what about executive privilege. This is something that the Republicans brought up. How does that play into these hearings. This is another thing that we hear a lot from the the trump administration members in all of these hearings. They like to assert this privilege. We also hear it from people like Corey Lewandowski when they are not members members of the administration notably executive privilege it dates back to the George Washington administration. There's no federal statute that defines the extent extent of the privilege and that's why people have been so eager and have so easily asserted. It seems like something that's going to keep coming up as we move forward with impeachment proceedings it will and the Democratic lawmakers and all of these hearings they always push-back on it and try and get the just justification for it they question strean whether something actually is privileged but so far they haven't really seen too broken through to get the answers they want. Rebecca of both sides retreated to to each side of the fence here. Do you get the sense that the parties each of the political parties are united in their messaging when it comes to how they're approaching the whistleblower complaint. I think that there are certainly an effort by the White House to try and make sure that Republicans closed ranks behind them that there is a message of unity we saw yesterday before war. They allowed the press to see or or the public to see the transcript they invited a handful of Republican lawmakers to the White House to review it. The president called into that meeting and essentially it was intended to both reassure. Republicans that there was nothing wrong with the transcript but also to prepare them to go on TV and defend the president after that but but I do think we've seen a couple of Republicans voice at least some concern about what they've read both in the complaint and in the transcript I I don't think there's any any real merging between the two sides just yet but we saw Ben Sasse come out of reading the complaint yesterday say he thinks thought that there was some problems with it. Romney has said he thinks that it's troubling so we'll see if that continues in the next few days and unlike the the mole report which some Democrats have been concerned. It wasn't really easy to understand. Do you think that Americans have more clarity on this at this. Whole issue is just more digestible all to the average American. WHO's not maybe watching the whole hearing but is paying attention to the news? I think that's a fair description. I think it helps that the transcript yesterday a it's just five pages. It's pretty easy to read There's an it's pretty clear cut that he brings up Biden. He asks a foreign leader to work with his personal lawyer an attorney general on an investigation into his political opponent. That's pretty clear cut but I do think where the president is. Succeeding so far is on making the transcript a referendum on this idea of quid pro quo and so I've had heard from a lot of readers in the last day or so who say what's the problem album with this. There's no quid pro quo that he doesn't explicitly say that if you don't investigate Biden we're not gonNA give you military aid and so. I think that that's going. GonNa be sort of the central tension here going forward is whether Democrats are going to be successful in messaging wise in saying that the problem alone is just that he's asking foreign power for help not that he didn't necessarily on this call offering aid to say he would hold up that aid or whether the president will be successful on his end one of the more shocking revelations from this whole episode is is an alleged cover-up undertaken by multiple members of the executive branch to place the the transcript of the call between the president of Ukrainian president trump on a on a classified server How has that been. Has that been addressing these hearings Max. You know we actually didn't hear much about that. We didn't hear much about these details. From the complaint it really was focused more today's hearing on the process and how McGuire when about working with this complaint. We really didn't get into those details details. Democratic lawmakers did try and mention them and in their time of course on the stand were able to talk about that at and get some attention to those but we didn't hear about them from McGuire Rebecca. We're going to see more of this type of testimony. Is the house ramps up. Its impeachment investigations. did what we see. Today's Today's set the tone for hearings that we're going to be seeing on our TV screens over the next several weeks and months yeah I mean. I think that things will only escalate. I think when we're talking about executive privilege that at the White House's repeated invocation of it in the last year is part of what got us at this point I think Democrats on the hill are really fed up with not getting any answers and so I think now that they have this opportunity that they're really going to seize on it and it's all backdrop to all of this is going to be the presidential race which is obviously well underway. That's right. It's certainly not GonNa get quieter from here. Max Kutner covers where's the FBI Justice Department in Russia probes and Rebecca Ball houses a Wall Street Journal White House reporter. Thank you both so much for joining us. Thank you thank you we turn now to the Republican response to the latest news about by Ukraine the whistle blower complaints and moves to impeach President Trump Congressman Phil Roe was a Republican Representative Tennessee's first congressional district congressman row. Oh welcome to the takeaway. Thanks very much for having so congressman the speaker of the House. NC Pelosi has officially back this impeachment inquiry into president and trump and you tweeted your opposition saying that Democrats have been quote foaming at the mouth to undermine trump's presidency from the start so do not think it was was at least inappropriate for the president of the United States to ask a foreign leader to investigate a domestic political rival and then to potentially withhold aid from that country if they didn't do this favor for him. I think this is all a of blow about nothing more of the things that disturbed me about this and my previous life if I'm a physician so I've tried to get all the information I can't about an issue before I'll make a diagnosis here the speaker of the House before she she hears a second hand and description whistle didn't read this and then says this isn't a peachable offense before they ever read the document low I would wait to read the document which I did and I read and everything is arguable Matt. You can argue anything but no I do not I think here's a man who's he's been investigated for two and a half years thirty million dollars nineteen lawyers and came up with absolutely nothing and now a phone call your Ukrainian president is impeachable and you're creating what I say hats and his the person who get no crime is is being accused when it looks like Mr Biden may have done something that was wrong. What do you think potentially that Joe Biden did wrong. And how should that be investigated well. If you think about look just look at first blush of it. Flip it around this for president trump on this. If you are the vice president states you in Ukraine you withhold you and you say you did this. Withhold a billion dollars worth of aid going to that country so the prosecutor will quit investigating your son. He's is getting fifty thousand dollars a month from a an oil company. I mean th that doesn't look good. This is about I think about an election that occurred under two and a half years ago and look. I heard this all the time from from the far right when I was when President Obama was president. I was here for eight years. He was president impeach- Obama Obama said for what we have elections in this country and we're GONNA have one next year and politically I can tell you my part of the country this one bold and the trump supporters. I suppose I can assure you will I mean I mean this theory that he was manipulating his own office. As Vice President helps son that has been debunked as false by. I various news outlets do you do you believe that that's what he was doing or there needs to be some sort of formal investigation to finding out if he was doing that all aww look at all. I know is exactly what you know. The man said he withheld money. A billion dollars. Vice President did so that it would quit. This prosecutor was investigating. His son is getting fifty thousand dollars a month with this Ukrainian energy company and and so you can draw your own conclusions. Do you think that president trump was indeed asking the president of Ukraine to investigate Biden do agree that that's what he was doing that phone call well. I look you've read this happened and I've read it twice ace and basically it was a congratulatory call his parliament and this is back in July and I think honestly met this is going nowhere. Where and we're GONNA spend a lot of money and time right light now. We've got the Middle East as Hobbes. It's been years with Iran We've got an US MCA agreement that needs to be worked on the US the candidate trade agreement Mexico candidate trade agreement. We've got a trade war going all a child. Wow that needs our attention and what we folks on a phone. Call was going to end up being nothing just hysteria among the Democrats and I think that the people in this country see that and and once they read it and look I asked to be released before I knew anything that was in it I asked for. I think sunshine is the best disinfectant that it can be let people make their own mind up. I mean you. You said that it's going to be dismissed but there's been some. Republicans that are that are concerned about this. Republican Center Mitt Romney said that the contents of the call quote deeply troubling Senator Ben acid quote. Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons here to say. There's no there when there's obviously lots. That's very troubling there a wire some Republicans may returning to those two senators. It's certainly troubling to me and and and and white here is I said if you if you're going to take one of the things that concerns me also not just this administration. I might be another president different president next time I if I were a foreign leader. I'd be very reticent to be on the phone call with an American President knowing that my conversation which I thought was private. It was going to be made public due to political reasons so I think that was a that's a concern that I personally have is at that. Were they foreign leader either that he talks to and when that foreign leader thanks it should probably conversation. There's just the sense out there. Just as you're arguing that Democrats will do anything to get the president out of office that Congressional Republicans will do anything to defend the president that they will no matter what were to come out as the president said I could shoot somebody in Fifth Avenue and I still have my supporters and there's a sense that the congressional Republicans are not acting as a check on the president regardless of what he does and aren't willing willing to pursue investigations as far as they they might take us because they are concerned that trump's I wanna give a shout out to one of my predecessors Howard Baker who took down President Nixon some Republicans actually stood up and took their proud on all if there was something here you if you look get my comments about all of this is let's wait until we get information. The same thing is the Muller report we spent two and a half years of this thing and and there's a stench about that whole thing at corruption is top of the FBI and the Justice Department and yet when the report came out where we're muller says no collusion the Democrat said collusion and very exchange you have. Is You have a phone conversation. That's now impeachable offense. It seems to me like that's politically motivated. Coachman and Phil Roe represents Tennessee's first congressional district congressman thanks for being on the show Matt thanks for having me and I just want to go back to something the congressman and a lot of Republicans since I've been saying that something just doesn't add up about Joe Biden and Ukraine it all centers on this Ukrainian prosecutor that Biden helps removed from office which supposedly Isley helped his sons overseas business interests but the timing doesn't add up because the crucial point there is that the investigation ended a year before Joe Biden. I started calling for this. Guy's is resignation. That's Josh Kaczynski from talking points memo on with US earlier this week. He spent three years reporting in Ukraine told us the chargers are bogus and when it comes through establishing a link between Biden's actions vice president and his sons business interests overseas the Wall Street Journal wrote last week that quote in Ukraine government officials goals and anti-corruption advocates say this is a misrepresentation one year ago a battle was raging over the confirmation of Justice Brad Kavanagh to the Supreme Court and you might remember this moment which which unfolded in an elevator on Capitol Hill Office with Adam by vice sexual assault. I told him because I recognize adds. Nothing story telling what you're doing is allowing someone who actually violated a woman to sit in Supreme Court. This is not tolerable. You have children in your day. Come on them. I have two children. I cannot imagine that for the next fifty years they will have a free in court has been accused of violating a young girl. What are you you doing sir. That was UNIM- Maria are Chila. The CO Executive Director of the Center for Popular Democracy Confronting Jeff Flake the former Republican senator senator from Arizona. This confrontation took place a day after Dr Christine Blasi Ford testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee about her allegations. That Cavanaugh was sexually assaulted her in Highschool chillers. Please may have played a role in pushing senator flake to vote to delay Kavanagh's confirmation vote until after brief. FBI investigation that left open the possibility that the committee would side with Ford Cavanaugh was ultimately confirmed but Blasi Ford's testimony did spark spark a national conversation about sexual assault and the treatment of survivors and their stories on a Maria Chia joins us now to talk about how this conversation is is going a year later on a Maria welcome to the takeaway. Thank you so much. Let's go back to that encounter. You had with Senator Flake nearly a year ago. What compelled compelled you to confront him. I had been in and out of the PROTAS for many weeks and I had witnessed in awe as women then told their stories of sexual assault for the first time many chose to do that too in solidarity with Dr Plassey Ford and as an effort to help the country understand the culture that enabled sexual violence in the first place and especially the ways in which people who violate others are and Moseley men are granted impunity from that behavior and that was exactly what was in display in in the treatment that cabinet was receiving Dr Ford was not believed her story was examined in a million ways and cavern was has essentially able to show up to the judiciary committee and say how dare you question my integrity. How dare you question Mike Credentials. I deserve to be here here and it was both witnessing the courage of other survivors and being outraged by the repetition of history that propelled me to tell my own story which I hadn't untold in thirty years and which hadn't told to even my parents wow and then you told it to the world via that viral moment well I did not mean to the world I meant to tell it to senator flake in that moment as he was about to make a very important and consequential decision I encounter senator flake a few minutes after his office had released a press statement saying that he was ready to vote in support of Cavagnaud and it was the disappointment of watching of realizing that he was going to repeat history you can feel and the emotion in my voice and in the Voice of the other woman who was in the Elevator with me Maria Gallagher who had just met she had just shown up to the protests that day for the first time and she had never uttered the words I was sexually assaulted said she was working there to be able to say those words and she in a moment of intense interaction with Lake. She said those and she also said look look at me and tell me that what happened to me doesn't matter and those continue to resonate in the dialogue that we are having in our country about how we treat survivors today and you were speaking and representing untold numbers of sexual assault victims in that moment wondering what it was like for you as as a a survivor of sexual assault to watch Dr Ford's testimony and that whole circus of a confirmation process watching Dr Awards testimony was both incredibly painful. I could recognize the cracking of her voice and the effort to keep her her composure my own experience and I could recognize that she was trying to both share share generously something that was difficult to share and try to help the country understand the impact of allowing men who violate violate women to keep functioning in our society and be and be granted permission to continue Dr Ford Story Story Change the conversation and made the debate not just about the policies that impact our lives but the way that our government works and whether or not brought people in power are able to govern by listening and to pause and allow themselves to be moved by the experiences of people that are different from them and in some ways her treatment showed that the politicians today that were sitting in the Senate for the most part were unable to governed learn by listening and they were unable to seize the opportunity that was presented to them to signal to the country that they would not reaffirm a culture that enable able sexual violence in the first place. Where do you think the opposition to Cavanaugh and the protests against confirmation fit into the larger meat meet to movement. Do you think the hearings and testimony represent a beginning of this me too movement. A culmination of it was at toward the undefeated now. We're we're entering a different era. How do you how do you put it into that larger perspective. The fact is that women have been fighting against sexual violence for decades for generations and many years ago a woman WHO's aim is Toronto Berg created a space both a the physical space and Canova political space for women to tell their stories so that they could begin to heal and she coined the term. Metoo you too and about about a year before the Cavagnaud protest on that term came into political can offend the erupted in social social media and lots and lots of women began to share their stories and I ask myself when when Metoo I broke into the scene whether I would say something and they remember I drafted people were sharing a lot on social media drafted several posts and raise them and drafted them and raise them. I couldn't didn't bring myself to share my story then but when I was in the halls of Congress watching women cheer in detail what had happened happen to them in an effort to help senators understand the collective experience of women in this country. I was moved. I was moved moved the I will. I found the courage myself and I understood that. Courage is a currency that is contagious when you are in the presence of someone who is doing something something difficult something courageous you feel invited to do the same when you are in a place where solidarity is being displayed. You find abundance in yourself. Herself and Youtube can participate in acts of solidarity and I think that's why I believe that even though we lost the fight around wrong cavagnaud the there was massive transformation happening in our country because people witnessed and participated in an act of courage and Act of Solidarity Daddy that transform their sense of their own power and at the end of the day that's how social change happens it resides not in the hands of politicians who failed Moseley to lead with moral clarity it resides in the hearts of people who listen to the voice inside that says I must do something Annamaria Archie. La Is the CO Executive Director of the Center for Popular Democracy Ana Maria. Thank you so much joining us. Thank you okay all right. That's it for me this week. Amy Walter is in tomorrow. As usual antenna is back on Monday. Our show is was produced by Ethan Obermann Rob Gunter Jeeva CA Varma Mosaic Virus Jason to rescue Andreas O'Hara Dalton polly ruge our digital editor our our intern is Lita Hollowell Vince Fairchild and Debi daughtry our engineers and jake how it is our director and sound engineer. David Gable is our administrative straight assistant. Alexandra not is our senior producer and Deirdre Dabke is our executive producer. Thank you so much for listening Matt Katz. Follow me on twitter at-bat cats zero zero. This is the takeaway

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"From New York. This is democracy now. The biggest threat to security is Donald Trump. The fact that we're at a greater risk of nuclear war. Existential threat is climate change. We have to confront it before it's too late. Senator. Nuclear proliferation and climate change. China and climate change in the first presidential debate of the twenty twenty election, ten democratic candidates, Fard, over issues from immigration to health care, and gun reform and the war in Afghanistan. Another ten democratic candidates will debate tonight, the debates are being held in Miami less than an hour away from homestead, Florida. We're more than two thousand unaccompanied migrant minors are incarcerated in four profit detention center. Run by caliber President Trump's former chief of staff, General John Kelly sits on its board will air highlights from the debate and host around table discussion, all that and more coming up. Welcome to democracy now democracy now dot org. The warring piece report, I make Goodman, ten candidates took the stage in Miami last night for the first of a two night, democratic primary debate in a heated to our program. Twenty twenty hopefuls we're asked about healthcare, immigration climate change. Reproductive rights, gun control, in the economy on healthcare, Senator Elizabeth Warren and New York City mayor Bill de Blasio where the only two candidates who said they would eliminate private insurance altogether. This is Senator Warren on Medicaid for all. I'm with Bernie on Medicare for all, and let me tell you why I spent a big chunk of my life, studying white families go broke. And one of the number one reasons is the cost of healthcare, medical bills, and that's just for people who don't have insurance, it's for people who have insurance, former Senator mayor and secretary housing and urban development under Obama who leeann Castro cold for the d. Criminalization if immigration and challenge. Former congress member and fellow Texan petro Rorick over his refusal to do the same. This is Castro answering question what he would do as president. I would sign an executive order, that would get rid of Trump's zero tolerance policy, the remain in Mexico policy, and the metering policy this metering policy is basically, what prompted all Scott inva-, lady at to make that risky swim across the river. They have been playing games with people who are coming in trying to seek asylum at our ports of entry all Scott in Valencia went to a port of entry, and then they were denied the ability to make it asylum claim so they got frustrated and they tried to cross the river and they died because of that. On climate Washington. Governor Jan sleigh. Touted the fact he was the only candidate to make climate change the centerpiece of his campaign. The first to feel the sting of climate change, and we are the last that can do something about it. Our towns are burning feels are flooding Miami is, is inundated. We have understand this is a climate crisis and emergency. And it is our last chance in the new administration next one to do something about it. We don't have an hour long roundtable discussion on last night's debate after headlines the Senate voted overwhelmingly to pass a four point six billion dollar Bill Wednesday. That includes funding for emergency aid at the southern border earlier in the day, they rejected a house version of the Bill that included new health and safety standards for jailed migrants, but split progressive lawmakers the Senate Bill provides additional funding for that's immigration and customs enforcement and the Pentagon, President Trump's threatened to veto, the house, Bill. House speaker Nancy Pelosi rejected the Senate version, and it said she would like to. See better protections for jailed migrants and their children and it provision allowing lawmakers to visit detention facilities without notice the pressure is now on for the house and Senate to reconcile their two bills with lawmakers set to leave for the upcoming July fourth recess. The department of health and human services warned it could run out of funding to operate detention facilities for migrant children by the end of June. In more immigration news, democratic candidates, senators, Elizabeth Warren and Amy klobuchar visited a migrant children's prison in homestead Florida head of last night's debate homestead less than an hour from the debate venue in Miami. Play is have has been plagued by reports of mistreatment and unsafe conditions with children being isolated and some taking to self harm other twenty twenty candidates in Florida have also said they intend to visit the facility run by the four profit company, caliber n- Bank of America said Wednesday it'll end. Its relationship with companies that are involved in the jailing of migrants amid the growing outcry over conditions at the border, and Trump's inhumane immigration policies Bank of America reportedly provided financial services to calif-, which runs the homestead facility former White House chief of staff, John Kelly recently joined the board of caliber n- as the former head of homeland security, general Kelly. Oversaw Trump zero tolerance family separation policy asylum. Officers are calling for a federal court to put an end to Trump's so-called remain in Mexico policy saying, it threatens migrants lives, the policy, which forces migrants to return to Mexico while their asylum cases make their way through US immigration courts has been challenged by the U and other groups court filings by a union representing the asylum officers read, quote asylum, officer should not be forced to honor departmental directives that are fundamentally contrary. To the moral fabric of our nation and our international and domestic legal obligations in Indiana. The family of Iraq Logan. The fifty four year old black men who was shot dead by a white police officer earlier this month filed a lawsuit Wednesday against officer Ryan O'Neal and the city of south bend. The officer did not have his body camera turned on at the time. But claims he fired at Logan after he approached him with a knife and refuse to drop it. So then mayor Pete Buddha. Judge has come under fire following Logan's death. Residents have called him out for failing to hold the police accountable and favoring wealthy. White residents over black citizens people of color, make up forty percent of south bends, population Buddha, judge has also been accused of neglecting, his mayoral duties to spend time on the twenty twenty campaign trail. Judge is set to appear onstage tonight for the second night of the democratic presidential primary debate. In breaking news to blast from suicide bombs have rocked, the Tunisian capital of Tunis multiple injuries were reported in the immediate aftermath the first blasts occurred near a police patrol on one of the city's main streets, close to the French embassy killing at least one police officer and wounding at least three civilians, according to the interior ministry, a second bomb exploded near a police station during at least four others. No one's claimed responsibility for the attacks. President Trump and other world leaders have arrived in Sokha, Japan today for the g twenty summit Trump's expected to ask India to reverse its recent tariffs on some US goods imposed earlier this month. Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal's reporting, China will present a set of terms with the goal of ending the ongoing U S, China trade war. Trump is also expected to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Saudi Crown prince Mohammad bin Salman, amidst growing up, -sition to the US-backed Saudi led war in Yemen, an international coals for the Saudi Crown prince and other top officials to be held accountable for the murder of the Washington Post columnist Jamal kashogi she in a landmark ruling, a French court found the government failed to adequately tackle air pollution around Paris, the decision came in response to a lawsuit by a woman, and her teenage daughter who. Experienced respiratory illnesses believed to be linked to high levels of pollution in the Parisian suburb, where they live environmentalists hailed the ruling as a crucial, precedent, the group ecology without borders. Set in response, quote today, victims of pollution, like victims of pesticide should not be afraid to go to court to defend their health. A United Nations expert has warned we are on track for a climate party where wealthy people can pay their way out of the consequences of climate devastation, while others will face hunger, conflict, and mass displacement. A new report by Phillip Austin, the UN special rapporteur, and extreme poverty, and human rights says the UN and the larger human rights community has been complacent in the planet's impending disaster. And that, even if current global emissions targets are met, quote, millions will be impoverished, poor nations are expected to bear at least three quarters of the costs of climate change. Even as the poorer half of the world's population generates just ten percent of global emissions. In more climate news, the New York City council voted Wednesday to declare climate emergency. Joining over six hundred fifty municipalities and fifteen countries who've also made the symbolic declaration, other major cities to have done so include London and Sydney. The move comes a few days after the New York state legislature passed the climate leadership and community Protection Act. And Embiid Bill that aims for net zero carbon emissions by twenty fifty governor, Andrew Cuomo has said he will sign the Bill soon. The house oversight committee voted Wednesday to subpoena White House, counselor Kellyanne Conway to testify over her violations of the hatch act, a law barring federal employees from engaging in political activity as part of this, official duties, the White House blocked Conway from appearing before the panel for yesterday's hearing, earlier this month, the White House watch. Doug informed. President Trump Conway violated the act on numerous occasions by quote disparaging democratic presidential candidates, while speaking in an official capacity during television interviews, and on social media oversight share. Elijah Cummings warned his panel would vote to hold Conway in contempt. If she ignores the subpoena. And in New Mexico, Iraqi men who had taken sanctuary from deportation since two thousand seventeen in Albuquerque church has had his removal, order vacated, and we'll have his case reheard allowing him to move freely. For the first time in two years Khadem of Muhammad came to the United States in nineteen ninety four as a refugee and worked as a linguist for the US military between two thousand four and two thousand nine in two thousand seventeen Iraq agreed to take back a small number of citizens living in the US in exchange for being removed from Trump's Muslim travel ban, Alba Muhammad joined a class action lawsuit that prevented the deportation of one hundred Rockies, but as remained in century to avoid detention away from his family Bouma, Hamad's attorney, Rebecca Kitson announce the news and thank to supporters at the Albuquerque church yesterday. It takes a village to be able to do this, the greater community of the Hamama class members. And the ACLU of Michigan were also really instrumental in this, they are a wonderful and tireless group of advocates, and, yeah, I mean, I just hope that this brings light into the heart of those that are still in sanctuary knowing that the fight continues, and that sometimes you win. And those are some of the headlines says democracy now, democracy now or the warrant piece report, I mean he Goodman, and I met him in shape. Welcome to listen viewers around the country and around the world on Thursday night. Ten democratic presidential candidates took part in the first debate of the twenty twenty presidential race. Another ten Democrats will be debating tonight, the debate focused in part on the Konami healthcare, immigration gun control on and climate change. It was a historic night with three female candidates, taking part senators. Liz. With Warren of Massachusetts, and Amy klobuchar of Minnesota and congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii. It marked the first time more than one female candidate appeared in a major political party debate in the United States near the end of Wednesday's debate, moderator Chuck Todd ask candidates to use one word to describe the greatest geopolitical threat facing the United States. Former Maryland congress member, John Delaney, spoke first. Geo-political challenges China, but they'll geopolitical threat remains nuclear weapons wreck. So those are different question. Totally get it. Go ahead. Governor Inslee the biggest threat to the security United States. Donald trump. Threat that we face is the fact that we were at a greater risk of nuclear war today than ever before, in history, Senator threats economic threat China, but our, our major threat right now is what's going on in the Mideast with Iran. If we don't get to keep it. Linter slimmer than what we've been going here, one or existential threat is climate change. We have to confront it before it's too late center. Senator Booker nuclear proliferation and climate change sector Castro. China and climate change. Congressman Ryan China without a question. They're wiping us around the world economically and Mr Mayor Russia, because they're trying to undermine democracy and they've been doing it. Pretty damn good job of that. We need to stop Wednesday's debate was held in Miami, Florida. The venue was less than an hour away from homestead Florida where more than two thousand unaccompanied, minors are incarcerated in a four profit detention center. Run by Calvin Trump's former chief of staff, General John Kelly sits on its board prior to the debate, senators Warren until show visited the facility during the debate who he uncast or the former secretary of housing and urban development. Former mayor of Senate Tonio criticize the immigration policies of fellow techs, and former congressman Bill Becher Rourke, Castro called for the repeal of section thirteen twenty five of the immigration nationality act, which criminalizes crossing the border at places other than. Then ports of entry let's be very clear, the reason that they're separating these little children from their families. Is that they're using section thirteen twenty five of that act which criminalizes coming across the border to incarcerate the, the parents, and then separate them some of us on this stage have called to end that section to terminate it some congressman or Rourke have not? And I want to challenge all of the candidates. I just think it's a mistake. I think it's a mistake, and I think that, that if you truly want to change the system that we got a repeal that section if not, thank you might as well say, although see here respond to this very briefly, a member of congress, I helped to introduce legislation that would ensure that we don't criminalize those seeking asylum and refuge in this country. If you're fleeing. That I wanted to make sure. With respect. I'm still talking about everybody. You're looking at just one small part of this. I'm talking about a comprehensive rewrite of immigration. S about laws on the billions of folks, a lot of folks that are coming are not seeking asylum. A lot of them are undocumented immigrants. Right. And you said recently that the reason you didn't want to repeal section thirteen twenty five was because you were concerned about human trafficking, and drug trafficking. But let me tell you what section eighteen tidally teen of the US code title. Twenty one entitled twenty two already cover even. Did your home or? Hill, this shoe that we should. So that is William Castro and Batra Rourke, fellow Texans. And last night's democratic debate in Miami, Florida. We begin our, our roundtable with Unandi are Chila co executive director of the center for popular democracy longtime immigration activists. You may remember her putting her foot in the door of the elevator for. At the time of Brett Kavanagh's confirmation hearings to prevent Jeff flake. The Senator tried to challenge him on support for breath Cavanaugh, but we're sticking with immigration right now Maria Tila. It's great to have you with us. This was one of the most heated sections of the night, again, this debate taking place just over a half an hour away from detention facility. For over twenty three hundred migrant children talk about the challenge. Holy and Castro put out to bed or Rourke who, then cost is leading the conversation about how to imagine a new framework for immigration laws, how to really address the cruelty of immigration enforcement system. And he challenged or work, and frankly, challenged the whole field to stop using the same old framework of comprehensive immigration reform that essentially. For the last twenty years, presented a solution to a broken immigration system, that said legalization for some in exchange for the militarisation of the border more deportations more tensions as sensually more cruelty towards immigrant families who leeann Castro's saying the first thing we have to do is stop the, the, the worst part of, of our immigration system, which is the denial of asylum cases for people that come to ports of entry that criminalization of migration, the criminalization of desperation, which is the that are sections in the law, that have enabled the Trump administration to essentially grab adults that are coming to our borders in search of refuge, treat them as people who have broken criminal laws and separate them from their children, as sensually causing a generation of damage to thousands and thousands of children who are now sitting in jail, like facilities in Florida and Texas and. In states across on a rook would not sign onto this. He would not call for removal of that section. That was what put into place some ninety years ago. That's right. What who Leon said was, there are senators in Massachusetts and said senators, New Jersey, both to states that are not border states who have better policies, more humane ideas about how to treat people who are coming to our borders, and who has actually presented a very comprehensive very visionary Lee idea of how to. Treat immigrants as human beings and really transform the immigration system. And what about Cory Booker? He was also off what he would do on, when he was asked, what he would do on day one if he were elected, he focused exclusively on immigration policies your response to the points that he made. I think they having Senator Booker and many of the other candidates understand that in order to respond to the Trump administration's scapegoating of immigrants. They need to present the vision that it's fundamentally different vision. That is rooted in BAD that we can and should be an inclusive society, and that in order to be that we need to make sure that we are not treating people in the most inhumane ways as the Trump administration has so the candidates like Booker like Cass through like Senator Warren who are actually leaning into the issue of immigration art of. Ones that are essentially, presenting a much more. Much more clear contrast to the Trump administration, those kind of usually for a longtime Democrats have ran away from immigration. They consider these issue, a dangerous issue in elections, and they run away from it. And when they run to it they, they say, well, we need to enforce our laws in order to give people some reprieve in order to give people some pass to citizenship. That framework has not worked. It has only resulted in more detentions more deportations, it has resulted in the deaths of people at the border, the death of all Scott and Bolivia and many, many others. And we need to change that, and they need to present vision, that is totally different. And you're talking about Oscar and Valeria the twenty five year old dad and his little twenty three or twenty three month old girl Valeria who's now picture by Mexican journalists face down in the Rio ground. Drowned has been the back Trump of. This week both around the immigration Bill in congress round, these debates, you've Clovis, shar, senators Clovis shar and Warren, going to the homestead facility, twenty three hundred unaccompanied minor, migrant children or jailed there. And you have Senate end you have general Kelly President Trump's former chief of staff now on the board of caliber, and that runs that facility congress members are asking for him to be investigated, but you have Biden speaking tonight, who has been the vice president for eight years under Obama, and although there's no question, Trump has taken the terror and the brutality against migrants to a new height President Obama built up the infrastructure. What is what do you expect Biden to say? I don't expect vision from Biden. I don't expect that much courage from Biden Biden is responsible for the passage of the ninety four crime Bill, which resulted in the massive expansion of criminalization, mass incarceration in our country investment in the militarization of police across the country, Senator Biden is not someone who we can expect to lead on issues of criminal Justice and racial Justice. But. It is the, the there is a tremendous opportunity for Democrats to actually part ways with their own history. It is true that under Obama Krim emigrant family suffered tremendous levels of criminalization of deportation. He helped expand that the tension, uprightness a lot of, which is a for profit system, seventy percent of people who are in immigrant detention centers are sitting in four prophets sales with people like John Kelly, making money for every child. That is incarcerated homes that so we need to. We need to end the entanglement of the of our government with for profit companies that are making money from the caging of children and families, and we need to make sure that the policies that have resulted in so many did so many zip rations so much cruelty at the border and in the interior are fundamentally changed. We're going to break and then come back to our discussion on Maria Chila is the co executive director of the center for popular democracy. We have a round table on this. First of two democratic presidential primary debates that are taking place in Miami. The first last night, the second one tonight this is democracy now. We'll be back in a minute. Heading to Miami. The ecstasy of gold any Amar Cohen. This is democracy now. I mean Goodman with Nermeen shape, one of the most heated moments of Wednesday's democratic debate came when congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii took issue with Ohio, congressman Tim Ryan's coal for the United States to stay engage in Ghana, son, where the US has been fighting since two thousand one. I don't want to be engaged. I wish we were spending all this money in places that I've represented that have been completely forgotten, and we were rebuilding. But the reality of it is, if the United States is in engaged the Taliban will grow, and they will have bigger bolder terrorist acts. We have got to have some present there is there long before we came in there. Well, we were US to ghanistan thinking that we're going to somehow squash this Taliban sitting there have long. Awesome. Well, we weren't in there. They started flying planes into our buildings. So I'm just saying right now that we attack on nine eleven the well, I guy. Is many people military to go. Not. The ban was protecting those people who are plotting against us, all I'm saying is, if we want to go in to elections. And we want to say that we got to withdraw from the world. That's what President Trump is saying, we can't. I would love day. Now kinda right now Dadi Arabia. So there you have the debate between Tim Ryan and tolsey Gabbard congress members from Ohio and Hawaii. We are also joined by Amy Allison president of democracy and color, founder of she the people. She wanted honorable discharge as a conscientious objector in the first Gulf war. She's also co author of the book army of nuns strategies to counter military, recruitment end war and build a better world, Amy before we have you respond to that little debate within the primary debate last night, you're speaking to us from Miami, Florida. You were there last night. Can you can you set the scene for us and what you were most surprised by? She the people work with new Florida majority to assemble four hundred women of color, just blocks from the center, where the debate was taking place, women of color have been long been the gauge of where the momentum behind particular campaigns in what issues are going to be. Important for in this presidential primary. So that was an exchange where we were listening and washing carefully, because the Justice agenda that women of color have been advocating for is movement leaders as as well as, as voters extends to foreign policy, so along, all those lines, we see that the women of color that were assembled were watching very carefully for what was indicated I saw that Tim Ryan who looked angry entire night issued a statement criticizing Tulsi Gabbard. I don't particularly think that either one of them in their exchange captured the spirit of what, you know, most people in this country want to see in our foreign policy want to see a path to normalcy and, and into peace. And Amy Allison your own history as both a soldier. You were the. You were one of the first women of color to be honorably discharged from the US army, as a conscientious objector on the issue of war last night. Do you think it was adequately addressed? I don't think it was look what I learned long ago as a young woman as a medic in the military was that sometimes you have to take a moral stand. And even if that's difficult, what we see here is a argument between people who want to be president who have to ask themselves at this point, what kind of leadership is needed in this in this country. I think one of the things that we, we've discovered and me as, as earning an honorable discharge a conscientious objector, we, we have to really expose, and the, the need for moral courage across the board with, with the women of color, we've been organizing what she that people. We recognize that Lee. Galaxy doesn't mean morality, and that we have been uniquely positioned to show leadership in, in this moment. You know, I think that one of the things that we are going to have to look forward to in the debates and in the primary, is are those candidates who are willing to make bold assertions into support the kind of Justice politics, support, not only home and abroad, economic racial social in gender Justice. I think that's what the base of the party is looking for at this moment. Amy, this debate took place in the, the backdrop, was, of course, this, escalating tension between Iran and the United States, the Trump administration and last night, when the candidates were ost whether they would back the two thousand fifteen nuclear deal negotiated by the Obama administration in its form. Then Senator Cory Booker was the only one who said he would not so. Your response to that. I think that, that his response was fair. Cory Booker had a very good night. And I think to show the nuance and understanding that the United States should push Ford in renegotiating the deal. I think he said, yeah, we need to go from the twenty fifteen agreement and forward. But to explore what that deal might look like it was one of the moments that set him apart at the on the debate stage. I wanted to turn to the issue of climate as we continue to discuss this first democratic debate we're talking about the city of Miami ground zero for climate change in this country. Let's go to, and this NBC moderator, Rachel, Maddow, questioning the Washington governor, Jay Inslee about climate change. Governor Inslee secretary is you state your candidacy on the issue of climate change. It is first second and third priority for you said, it's all the issues lets. Get specific. We're here in Miami, which has already experiencing serious flooding on sunny days as a result of sea level rise, parts of Miami Beach, and the keys could be underwater in our lifetimes. Does your plan save Miami? I taking filibuster for Mitch McConnell to start with. We the first generation to feel the sting of climate change, and we are the last that can do something about it. Our towns are burning or feels are flooding Miami's is inundated. We have to understand this is a climate crisis, any -mergency, and it is our last chance in the ministration next one to do something about it, and we need to do what I've done in my state. We've passed a one hundred percent clean electrical. Grid Bill, we now have a vision statement. My plan has been called the gold standard of putting people to work, but the most important thing on this in the biggest decision for the American public is who's gonna make this the first priority. And I am the candidate in the only one who say this has to be the top priority. The United States the organizing principle to mobilize the United States. So as the democrat. Debate took place in Miami last night, climate activists from sunrise movement, protested, the democratic national committee's refusal to host climate change centered primary debate climate activists have been camping out in front of DNC headquarters in Washington DC. Joining us now is Russian leaper. Gosh, founder of the sunrise movement, and welcome to democracy. Now. Could you comment on the way in which climate change was addressed in last night's debate? It was apparently seven minutes were devoted to the issue, which is seven minutes. More than was devoted in two thousand sixteen but who do you think was strongest on climate change? Yeah. So I actually watched the debate at a debate watch party in Boston, where I live with dozens of young people. And there were over one hundred wash parties that took place like this organized by sunrise movement. I'm we were really looking to see if NBC and the Democrats treated, the climate crisis like the emergency that is, and frankly aside from a few bright moments all of the young people who were at these wash parties across the nation left in deep anger and disappointment. We have watched our entire lives. As the political immediate establishment has completely sidelined the issue the greatest essential threat of our lifetimes. And refuse to cover the problem with the severity and intentionally that it deserves. And we've been watching hurricane Maria claimed the lives of three thousand Americans has people in the west coast scene. Their land burn up in a matter of seconds as Miami is threatened to go underwater, and experiencing severe storms every single year that worsen, so I think we were feeling and during that time to see the DNC only devote six or seven minutes of time and three sort of questions to the issue of climate was deeply disappointing and frustrating. And so, I think we saw few candidates. Come out and swinging on the issue of climate. Obviously Jay Inslee who as they said, has made his entire campaign about the climate crisis issue. We've also seen with Warren, come out within the first couple of minutes, talking about the investments that can be made. In our country to lead the world globally in green tech and green infrastructure. We saw who in custody. We saw that our Rourke. Cory Booker, also made mention of the essential threat that climate change poses and talk about it, it through various forms. So I think you know, all in all we have been calling for climate to bait because we, we know that in large part, the establishment has failed us in treating this this crisis. And talking about that with the importance that it deserves. And we want to see a substantive debate on these issues, not just high level talking points. And a media spectacle version sunrise movement sat in Nancy, Pelosi's, office house speaker and fact Alexandra Kosta Cortes before she was actually seated as a congress, member was protesting outside the soon to be house speaker's office. And now you're protesting the DNC what has been Tom Perez? The head of the DNC's response to this demand that instantly made it's not only that there hasn't been a climate focused debate, but the DNC said any candidate who participated in a non sanctioned debate around climate change would not be able to participate in any of the sanction debates. That's right. And I think that was the particularly inflammatory part of why he y you know, thousands of people have voiced their opinions have have called them the DNC to revoke that position. And why they're dozens of young people sitting out in front of DNC headquarters, who have actually been locked out of the building for days and we'll continue to sit in saddened overnight, and we'll continue to sit in through the second debate. But I think, you know, the DNC has offered excuse after excuse after excuse calling the climate crisis, a single issue seeing that it's impractical or you know, my favorite, which is that it is against the rules. But frankly, people in my generation couldn't care less about the rules when we are seeing our entire plan up planet begin to burn in front of us. This is a planetary emergency. And we haven't seen our political leaders treated us. So we're calling for climate, too. And I think, you know, we've seen a multi-racial diverse coalition of people rise up in unison alongside to call for one as well. And when it comes to a question of our collective survival, there is no such thing as single issue. We're going to break and then come back to our discussion around discussion on the first democratic primary debate of the twenty twenty season, this is the longest presidential primary his. Period in history of the United States, twenty of the candidates are participating in these two nights of debates. And of course, we'll be here tomorrow tonight, you have among those debating, you have former vice president, Joe Biden. You have Bernie Sanders, you have come la- Harris, Senator from California, as well as people to judge who's left. South bend, Indiana dealing with white police officer, killing a black resident of south Ben and the mass protest against him to come to the debate in Miami. We're speaking with rushing precaut-, who is the founder of the sunrise movement. This is democracy now. We'll be joined by others as well. Stay with us. He. Just. Just. Don't you come? The sued. Is there? Visit me still the. Gooding. Goes from. The woods. That you get American dream by DARA. This is democracy now. I mean Goodman with we're continuing our roundtable discussion about last night's twenty twenty presidential debate this Lisbeth Warren, speaking about her plans to implement Medicare for all and free college among other programs, who is the Sakani really working for. It's doing great for thinner Infinity slice at the top. It's doing great giant drug companies. It's just not doing great for people who are trying to get a prescription filled. It's great for people who want to invest in private prisons, just not, fifty African Americans Latin vex, whose families are torn apart. Lives are destroyed and whose communities are ruined. It's still in great for giant oil companies that wanted drill everywhere. Just not for the rest of us who are watching climate change. Bear down upon us when you've got a government when you've got an economy that does. Great for those with money and isn't doing great for everyone else that is corruption, pure and simple. We need to call it out. We need to attack it head on, and we need to make structural change in our government in our economy and in our country. Call programs like free college something you might do if you were quote a magic genie to be blunt, are the government programs and benefits that some of your rivals are offering giving your voters people false sense of what's actually achievable. Will I be Konomi? We know that not everyone is sharing in this prosperity and Donald Trump just sits in the White House, and gloat about what's going on. When you have so many people that are having trouble affording college and having trouble affording, their premiums. So I do get concerned about paying for college for rich kids, I do, but I think my plan is a good one. And my plan would be to first of all make community college free and make sure that everyone else besides that top percentile gets help with their education, my own dad, and my sister got their first agrees with community college as many. Paths to success, as well as certifications, Secondly us programs. I double them from six thousand twelve thousand dollars a year and expanded to the number of families that get covered to families that make up to one hundred thousand dollars. And then the third thing I would do is make it easier for students to pay off their student loans. Because I can tell you this, it billionaires can turn it off their yacht students should be able to pay off their student loans. That was Senator klobuchar responding to be moderator savannah Guthrie, we're bringing an end geared us into the discussion editor at lower time magazine. Former correspondent comets New York Times as new book wieners take all the elite raid of change in the world is recent cover story for time magazine Bernie Sanders wants to change America, but he may have to change himself. I. On your take on last night's debate and particular this assertion of the economy and especially how the woman at the center of this debate, right? Ten candidate. She's in the middle Senator Elizabeth Warren who is far outpolling, all of the other candidates here in this debate, I think it was a two hour discussion much of it about how change is made in America and what kind of change is necessary and hovering over it. I think is another question that they dealing with sometimes skirting around, which is why is Donald Trump? President is dumb term president because of some lark because he's a really weird guy who managed to squeeze in there. Or is he president because of thirty forty year mega trends in this country that left, a majority of people feeling mocked by the future and led to the collapse of institutions that made him possible? And so in this race, you have a bunch of people who I think that who, I think, think he's not the whole disease the symptom. He's the boil on the disease, the body politic. And then you have some other people who I really, like Biden, not in last night's debate who emphasize Trump is our problems. So if you break it down that way, among the Elizabeth Warren is with Bernie Sanders leader of the camp that says this is a diseased body politic. Right. Trump is what you would expect to erupt, if you neglect people for this long. And so when you have the exchange that you did, part of it is about incremental ISM versus more fundamental change. Right. Do free college everybody or Pell grants. Doubling tripling the old kind of democratic Clinton stuff. But I think another part of the people not talking about enough is mapped onto incremental versus fundamental change is impossible for people to understand, versus easy for people to understand the reality is they are competing. One of them is going to compete against the president who in my view is not a good human being and can. Probably barely read but is but is good at simplicity. Simple, ideas that resonated with tickled, people's reptile, brain. And I think a bunch of people here who wanted to the right thing for this country. But who I think need to think harder most of them about matching the president in that level of elegance and simplicity? So when you talk about healthcare, never having to think about healthcare, again, because it's just off the table. Like it is in Britain is a really simple idea. People can understand right? It's as simple as the wall, actually. It's compelling ideas. The wall just good versus bad. Helbrans this can block grants Medicaid. Once you get into that. I think these people don't know who they're talking to. Sometimes, I think they don't understand that. Most people are not their staff. Most people do not know what these things are. So I think Warren was particularly commanding because despite having all those plans all those things didn't actually use those words, a lot us moral language. I wanna go to let's with Warren healthcare. Let's go right now. She and build a blase over the only ones who raise their hands when it came to eliminating private health insurance calling for Medicare for all. I'm with Bernie on Medicare for all, and let me tell you why. I've spent a big chunk of my life studying, y families go broke. And one of the number one reasons is the cost of healthcare, medical bills, and that's just for people who don't have insurance it's for people who have insurance. There you have Elizabeth Warren. I have on a Bob Macaire like on ObamaCare, I can barely understand what it is the number of times with had problems. We've forget to sign up for our daughter, actually enrolled, and then she was disemboweled, and she was born because we hadn't sent in her social security number, but we actually didn't do that, because she didn't have one yet because she hadn't been born, but you have to enroll before they're born. So for a few months, an infant, the most vulnerable moment of their life, like didn't have coverage. Maybe or maybe did. We're not sure. I am fairly capable financially and another wise of navigating that, and I can barely barely handle it. And that's the fix right? So I was just in Britain. I was a student in Britain, many years ago when I got sick and went to the doctor and you know. You know, I wasn't a citizen and living there for eight or nine months. And at the end I was like, how do we settle this up there like by you walking out and aid? That was good. So the students in a lot of money. So that was good. Be it wasn't just a policy. There was an expressive value in that interaction the society. The whole country was telling me something in that moment that it tells its people everyday, and those moments which is that this is on us your health your well being on us. And I think what what's really interesting? You have, you know, I think Cory Booker talking a lot of populace language last night. But then when you got to each policy, it was like, well, you know. And I think there's been a lot of conventional wisdom. The Democratic Party that the more moderate approach to things gets you more addressable votes, because there's more, you know, get to poaching people on the other side. And I actually think we are seeing a shift in that idea with Bernie with Warren. Perhaps, even with others of understanding that pure simple. Undiluted ideas, like never think about healthcare, again, because it's just taken care of actually, may get you more Republican votes or moderate votes. Or just excite your own people more because frankly, people are busy and precisely because of this economy, people working two or three jobs. People are struggling take care of their kids people do not sit around studying what block grants are. Well, your piece I mean, on Bernie Sanders, one of the things that, that I mean with Warren ended that started the last clip by saying that she's with Bernie on Medicare, your piece for time magazine is Bernie Sanders wants to change a Matha, but he may have to change himself. I what did you mean by that? He's going to be in the debate this evening is so I spent eight days on the road with Bernie, in April fascinating experience all over the country, six thousand miles. And I would say to two major operations, the first is I think Bernie has built a movement. We have people throw around the word movement casualty in this country, but Bernie has an actual movement, right? Which is like a group of people who actually do things together know each other are willing to fight put skin in the game, Bernie, has that kind of movement in a way that maybe no one else in American life does. I mean, I think Trump has some kind of mass like terrifying, sort of. Mass moon of a different kind Bernie has a real organized civic movement. And that's a real accomplishment. I also think he using that move at change the conversation in this country in a way that, you know, fewer than maybe a dozen people in our history have really changed the conversation. Right. There's a lot of things we weren't talking about in the mainstay. Maybe this show is talking about. But not the mainstream conversation that we're all now talking about. I think on the other side of the ledger. The piece was not a political horse race piece. It was a piece about character the person. And one of the things that started to be fascinating to me is, what does it do to a person to fight a lonely, forty year crusade, we're in the last two years of that crusade people start to listen to you? What does that do to your soul? Right. If it's not too early in the morning to talk about the soul. What is it? What is it? What does it do to a person? And I think part of what it has done to him. And, and this is not just me spit. Balling, I spent a lot of time talking to people on record more the wreck understanding the guy and this is a person who I think sauce something and said something about America. That was not fashionable say for a really long time. But in that process of fighting that lonely fight has hardened. I think has closed off is suspicious. All reporters corporate media out to get him, even though you know, like a very large number of people in media, trust me, are actually don't, don't love the billionaires. They work for. Are very sympathetic to the broad thesis, you know, someone who loves the people, but doesn't have a lot of place in his life for people. You see last night, you can see the people who actually delight and shaking, hands of people connecting with the fleshy humanity of people, and this is someone who really is averse to human beings, when they're not by the three thousand room. And so all of that, to me was left a question Mark about he got himself to an amazing place. But now he's got nearly a couple dozen people in this race. Does he have the human skills to actually grow and take the, the next connect with the people who are not his diehards? What is your sense of that? Una Mary, actually. Well, I feel tremendous gratitude towards Bernie Sanders for the tenacity that he has just lived his life by and his ability to stay the course to try to lay out. So clearly who the real culprits of so much of our pain, our, which is like the biggest corporations and the ROY. That they play in our democracy. And in our economy, at the same time I have found myself feeling worried about Bernie's in ability to perhaps grasp some of the changes in our political discourse, the ways in which young, people young undocumented, people are saying, undocumented and unafraid and unapologetic. What they're saying really is I am not going to make excuses for my existence and my life. I expect you and the political leaders in our country to put people first and to not make excuses for a system that has failed. So I want to see Bernie talking about more boldly. Not continuing the criminalization of immigrants nod, succumbing to the politics of militarizing the border, and I think he in the same way that he struggled on race has struggle and immigration. I still, you know, fundamentally believe that he would hold corP. Accountable in a way that almost no other official with the exception of probably wanna turn her New Jersey, Senator Corey Booker who spoke about LGBTQ rights. Civil rights is someplace to begin. But in the African American civil rights community, another place because to stop the lynching of African Americans. We do not talk enough about trans Americans, especially African American trans Americans and the incredibly high rates of murder right now. Don't talk enough about how many children about thirty percent of LGBTQ kids who do not go to school because of fear. It's not enough just to be on the equality act, original cosponsor. We need to have a president that will fight to protect LGBTQ Americans every single day from violence. Thank you, fed it a bat was New Jersey. Senator Corey Booker, and by the way, the issue of trans rights. It was the first time it was a dressed and presidential primary debate, Amy Allison the significance of this. It was an amazing moment, wasn't it to have both a Senator Booker and Hulan Castro, who mentioned translates in the context of reproductive Justice? Both sang trans men can have babies. Yeah. That's right. Bringing humanity to very vulnerable. Population and it is a direct result of the amazing organizing happening on the ground for a black trans rights. I think what, what this means is that in a presidential contest as we go forward, the, the acknowledgement of African Americans in the diversity that is shows that these that Cory Booker is speaking directly to black voters, just a reminder black voters or twenty five percent of the Democratic Party. It's impossible to have a path to victory in this primary without enthusiastic support of a black people and black women in particular, I think elevating trans rights is an indication that the, you know, both Senator Booker and Leon Castro or acknowledging the diversity in the community. And they're speaking broadly to not only just LGBTQ individuals. But. Recognizing the intersectional nature of the issues. I mean some of the issues we've talked about today on the environment or. Other economy without putting a racial Justice or gender Justice lens on these issues, they fall flat. But by bringing out LGBTQ not as just support gay marriage, but to bring in a racial lens shows that Senator Booker is both speaking to the base, but also showing a quite a bit of complexity and his understanding the issue, I think it was a great moment in American politics, eleven go back to a hush any precaut-, a on the issue of climate change, again, your response to the fact that the green new deal was not mentioned. We have a brief thirty seconds, please. Yeah. I think, you know, it was another disappointing moment. We were hoping that one of the candidates would mention it and also tonight, considering that tens of thousands of young people have been out, calling for green deal, we've had demonstration after demonstration and that conversation about the green deals largely what has propelled climate change to top the charts as one of the most important issues and the democratic on the democratic side. So we'll certainly be looking for that tonight wanna thank you for being with us version progress, founder of the sunrise movement on Maria Chila codes director of the center for popular democracy. Amy Allison joining us from the debate site in Miami, Florida, president of democracy and color, founder of she the people and unin geared to dust editor in chief of time magazine his new book winners, take all the elite charade of changing the world. Run. That love. Of course, tomorrow will cover it the second debate that's tonight in Miami. 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Fri. 03/13 What Will It Take To Win?

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Fri. 03/13 What Will It Take To Win?

"Welcome to the election. Ride home for Friday Friday March thirteenth. Two Thousand Twenty. I'm your host Jackson Bird with summary of election news today. What do the polls spell for Tuesday's primary elections everything sanders and Biden? Each need to do to win the nomination and once again an update on how the corona virus is affecting the election. Here's what you missed today from the campaign trail there was a new morning. Consult poll published yesterday afternoon showing Biden with eight twenty four point lead over sanders nationally. He's up six points from their polling before the most recent primaries on Tuesday the tenth though poll was conducted on Wednesday the eleventh respondents were potential Democratic primary voters and it has a margin of error of two points quoting morning consoles. The latest survey finds a continuing generational divide in the democratic electorate. Although Biden has slightly more crossover appeal than Sanders. While fifty five percent of voters under the age of forty five back the Vermont independence seventy four percent of those ages forty five and up back Biden. The poll also shows Biden leading sanders by thirty nine points. Among black voters. Sixty seven percent to twenty nine percent by thirty points among suburban voters sixty two percent to thirty two percent and by twenty six points each among rural white voters and white voters with a bachelor's degree in state after state over the past two weeks these voters have fuelled. Biden's victories in quotes Emerson polling released surveys of likely Democratic Primary Voters in Illinois Florida and Ohio yesterday the polls were conducted on March eleventh and Twelfth and each have margins of error of four points. Biden is ahead in all of them by at least twenty points but even more so in Florida where he leads sanders by a whopping thirty eight points. Sixty five percents to twenty. Seven quoting Emerson. A plurality of voters forty seven percent agree that electing someone who can beat trump is their top priority following that twenty percent of voters say healthcare is their most important issue and ten percent. Say the Economy Emerson ads. The majority fifty six percent of Florida. Democrats think that Joe Biden has the best healthcare policy compared to forty four percent who say Bernie Sanders and quotes in Illinois. Voters are split fifty fifty exactly on. Who has the best healthcare policy overall in Illinois Biden is leading with fifty seven percent support to sanders is thirty six in Ohio voters thought Sanders had better healthcare policy? Fifty three percent liking his compared to forty seven percent who liked Joe Biden's but overall voters in Ohio still picked Biden fifty seven percent to thirty five fifty four percent of them also think Joe Biden will create more jobs in Ohio than sanders will with thirty two percent saying Sanders would create more Ohio Illinois. Florida and Arizona will be voting. This coming Tuesday the seventeenth there haven't been any polls conducted in Arizona since before Elizabeth. Warren dropped out but even then Biden was leading by twenty eight points with all of those pretty grim poll numbers for Sanders. Does he still even have shots? Five thirty eight. Primary forecaster has him at less than one percent. Chance of getting a majority of the delegates while Biden is at more than ninety nine percent chance but remember Biden still even have half of the delegates he needs to win. You need one thousand nine hundred ninety one to hit the majority. Currently Biden has eight hundred eighty one and Sanders has seven hundred twenty five the New York Times mapped out what it would take for Sanders to take the lead for Sanders to gain a majority for Biden to lose the majority or what it will look like if Biden keeps doing as well as he has been if Biden keeps doing as well as he has been the New York. Times says hill secure the nomination in late April or early May to lose his delegate majority the New York Times says quote Mr Biden could do about twelve percentage points worse than he has instill win a majority if he fared any worse. Mr Biden fall short of a majority and risk contested convention and quotes. The New York Times notes that even if he loses big states like New York Illinois or Arizona. He'd probably still hold a majority. And even if he just gets a plurality sanders said earlier this month that Biden should still be the nominee with a plurality but would sanders need to do to overtake. Biden's lead he'd need to be doing better. By seventeen percentage points winning a majority of the vote share in most of the remaining states. That's just for a plurality though something that the DNC is not likely to let him use to win the nomination without a fight to secure a majority of delegates he would need to do. Twenty one percentage points better than he's doing quoting the New York Times again more than half of all delegates remain up for grabs and Mr Sanders has another opportunity to gain support. Nationwide during the one on one debate with Mr Biden on Sunday but Mr Biden's momentum over the last two will make his decisive lead difficult to overcome Mr Sanders would need perform much better than he has so far to secure a majority of delegates before the convention and quotes Nate. Silver agrees writing in five thirty eight. He says that delegates alone aren't sanders is biggest challenge. Right now is the fact that nationally and state by state he's trailing Biden by about twenty points and that he's unlikely to win a lot of the important southern states in upcoming primaries quotes and by the time. These states have finished voting. The delegate math will be a major problem for sanders and even a massive late surge would probably not be enough to help him win the nomination put another way. Sanders need something like a twenty point surge within the next week just to remain competitive for the nomination and even then it would still be an uphill battle for him and he needed a time when Biden potentially stands to gain more ground because of his strong results last night states such as Michigan could potentially give Biden a further bounce in the polls thus even strong debate on Sunday for Sanders might not be enough and just merely offset further momentum biden gained from Tuesday and quote. A lot of folks are thinking that these four primaries on Tuesday are going to be the make or break moment for sanders. The Associated Press is especially focused on Sanders is poor outlook in Florida. The state with the most delegates on Tuesday at two hundred nineteen quotes few places. Hold the Electoral Cachet of Florida which has been among the most coveted swing states in the last three decades including during the contentious chaotic recount of Two Thousand. It is a vital state for president. Donald trump who would have almost no path to reelection without it. Biden's advisors are banking on a decisive Florida. Victory that sends a clear message that he is much better position to win. The state and denied trump a second term in two thousand sixteen trump defeated Hillary Clinton here by one point two percentage points sanders support and Florida has always been tenuous in the two thousand sixteen primary. He Lost Clinton by nearly two to one margin this year sanders angered a potentially large voting bloc cuban-americans by praising Fidel Castro for implementing a literacy program in the Communist nation and quotes. A Florida. Isn't sanders is only issue. A Million Thompson devoe and Meredith Conroy. Wrote a piece yesterday for five. Thirty eight examining why women are less likely to vote for sanders quote in contest after contest. Sanders has struggled to make inroads with key democratic constituencies in particular black voters older voters but there's another trend that's plagued him throughout the primary. He does poorly with women. According to aggregated exit polls from the states that have voted so far sanders support is eight points lower among women than his support among men they continue. It's hard to pin down. A single reason why men seem to be more attracted to sanders candidacy than women. There isn't really evidence for example that sanders is especially likely to attract supporters who display hostile feelings towards women in a recent analysis. Researchers data for progress did find that gender bias kept some voters from supporting Warren but Sanders. Supporters didn't hold more sexist views than Biden's but there is evidence according to an analysis by Dan Casino a political science professor at Fairleigh Dickinson University that while support for Biden increases among voters with more sexist views. Those with the most sexist views were disproportionately likely to favour sanders and sexism was higher. In general among men and quotes they also point to the generational divide playing a contributing factor including that women especially older women are more likely to consider being Democrat a strong part of their identity as compared to men and therefore less likely to support someone on the fringes of the party. There's also this quote sixty five percent of women say they would prefer a candidate who can defeat trump compared to fifty nine percent of men. That isn't an overwhelming gap to be sure but it's still noteworthy given that women up a disproportionate share of the democratic electorate and in the primary so far voters who prioritize a candidate who can defeat. Trump are disproportionately likely to support Biden and quotes so sanders has some big challenges ahead. But Sodas Biden actually and we will dig into those in a moment as Biden continues to secure his place as the Democratic Front runner and more and more Democratic Party members coalesce around his campaign it becomes increasingly obvious. Just who isn't running into his camp and how much biden will be able to do to bring those people to his side is anyone's guess quoting politico. In Michigan State Critical to Democrats efforts to reclaim their general election footing. The rust belt just to five sanders backers said they would vote democratic in November regardless of who became the nominee according to exit polls four and five said they'd be dissatisfied with Biden as the democratic standard bearer politico continued on never biden facebook pages and twitter threads. Some activists argue that if trump is reelected democrats will fare better in the next midterms and that the party will be more likely to nominated progressive in two thousand twenty four. If Biden is elected they see eight years of centrist governance and quotes with ever-mounting resistance to Biden in his campaign from Sanders is supporters and other progressives what can Biden do Democratic Strategist Eddie. Vaile said in the hill quote. I think step one which they are doing well. So far is what you've seen Biden. And His staff say they're smartly giving Bernie and his supporters all the time and space. They need to make whatever decision they need to make. Then a lot of unity is going to happen. Organically from people coming together to defeat trump. Vaile said the next step is for Biden to reach out to sanders supporters. To make the case that he can also be good for them. If elected Vaile said it can't just be about opposing the current president. He described it as quote reaching out to them and not just with trump's sucks but explaining why. Biden and his policies are good for them and the country and quote. Sanders seems aware of this well. In recent days there have been less attacks on Biden pass policy positions and more nudging him to adopt some of sanders his own policies Jennifer Palmieri Clinton's former communications director said to NBC. News quote you can't force Bernie Sanders supporters to do anything even Bernie Sanders can't force Bernie Sanders supporters to do anything letting sanders determine. What's best for his people is probably ultimately what's best for Biden so long as sanders? Supporters are not echoing. Trump's arguments outside pressure foreseen sanders out of the race. Is I think a big mistake. Either Bernie Sanders is going to want to help the Democratic nominee or not. I believe that he does so. Then you've got to give that campaign the room to do this. The best way they can end quotes a particular challenge for Biden will be winning over Sanders. Young supporters quoting politico exit polls from this year's primaries have found a stark age divide between sanders and Biden supporters in Michigan. Almost two thirds of voters under forty five back sanders while Biden captured a third of them. It was even more lopsided among voters under thirty four in five voted for Sanders but sanders has failed to turn young people out at retail hoped and among those over forty five Biden one two thirds and sanders one in four John. Volpe director of polling at the Harvard Kennedy School Institute of Politics Said Biden needs to make building a relationship with young voters a central focus of his campaign to beat trump recent democratic nominees. Who have lost such as Hillary Clinton and John Kerry received about fifty five percent of the youth votes whereas former President Barack Obama won sixty percent or more in his two races. It's not a coincidence that the youth vote crossed or met that sixty percent threshold in each of those campaigns that were successful. He said end quote if Biden moves a little on policy issues and continues his talk of being a bridge candidate for younger leaders in the future as he has said appearances with senators. Kamla Harrison Cory Booker Biden could make some inroads quoting NBC News. Annamaria are Sheila Co Executive Director of the Progressive Group Center for Popular Democracy which backed Sanders said. Biden's electability can only be enhanced by systematically courting progressives. I don't see how the party is going to be able to defeat a movement candidate because Donald Trump is a movement candidate without a movement candidate Archie La- said so Joe Biden is going to have to do the work end quote you know. I was really hoping that I could go one day without needing to include corona virus update for the election but it has become the number one issue affecting everything including the presidential race. So here are just a few updates. Vice President Biden has announced that his staff will all be working from home campaign headquarters and field offices will be closed to the public. Starting Tomorrow Senator Sanders is campaign has suspended all door to door canvassing and we'll focus on remote organizing state election officials in Arizona Florida Illinois and Ohio are encouraging voters to vote by mail or to vote early which can prevent large crowds on election. Day itself all four states have confirmed cases of Corona virus and Ohio has closed down. All schools officials in Ohio are also working to move all polling locations out of nursing homes and offer mail in ballots to nursing home residents concerns also remain for poll workers however the hill notes quote according to the Election Assistance Commission survey fifty six percent of poll workers were aged. Sixty one or older and quotes. Aaron sellers these spokesman for Ohio's Franklin County Board of Elections told the hill quote a lot of poll. Workers are older. So we're having a lot of them call in telling us they can't work on Tuesday so for every new person that we're getting. We're having three saying that. They can't work so we are scrambling around to fill spots and quotes. Meanwhile and this news broke just before recording. Louisiana has become the first state to officially postpone. Its primary rescheduling. It's April fourth primary for June according to The Washington Post. Some folks were quick to weigh in saying that postponing is not as good a solution as mail in ballots. Nate silver pointed out on twitter. Quote states need to be planning to hold November elections while Kovic? Nineteen is potentially still a significant concern. Postponement will not be a good solution then and quotes. He's not entirely wrong. But there's also a chance that Louisiana's decision will start a ripple effect of postponements. So if you live in a state that has not voted yet. Keep an eye on any announcements from the board of elections about postponements or guidelines on added early voting dates or mail in ballots. Things are changing very quickly as officials experts and the campaigns figuring out how to handle this unexpected challenge to the election. And I'll remind you again that if you want more general corona virus updates if you WANNA stay informed perhaps not get bogged down by Internet commentary. You can listen and subscribe to ride homes latest podcast corona virus daily briefing. It is a fifteen minute. Podcast designed to keep you up to date with vital information about the outbreak and the only thing that I will say for now is that I hope everyone listening is taking care of yourselves and each other for all of our punditry talk of unifying candidates. This is one thing for which we are really all facing together and regardless of anything else we need to be there for one another so for whatever it means for you. I hope you're staying safe and I wish you well. And that is the election roundup for the day as always you can find election ride home on twitter at election podcast or on facebook at facebook dot com slash election ride home. Thank you all so much for listening and stay safe out there.

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How bail activism works

Marketplace with Kai Ryssdal

25:46 min | 3 months ago

How bail activism works

"You don't have to pull back the layers very far to see the economic realities of the past couple of days. From American public media. This is marketplace. In Los Angeles I'm resolve Monday today, the first day June. Good as always to have your long everybody. You know the thing about this story, the protests of the past three or four days. Is that what's happening right now or what happened last night, or what might happen tonight? Is Better covered elsewhere. This to our minds is a systemic story of this economy, which is where our coverage is going to go, and we go first today, and mostly throughout the program, actually to the future, specifically to begin what that future holds for the hundreds of businesses in dozens of cities that have been vandalized, were looted or damaged the past couple of days. Marketplace's Abry Benesch war gets is going with this reminder that those businesses and the communities there in are GonNa take years to heal. Anthony's pipe and cigar lounge is on West Lake. Street in Minneapolis, Tom Harlan runs it. He's been doing business in the area for thirty five years. They broke all all my cabinets. Everything is was shattered. Broke my humidor. They broke into the office broke my safe they they blew up one of my security cameras. They even took the plywood off the barbershop across the street and broke the glass and went in there. The whole area is boarded up and sprinkled with graffiti now last night. I was just shaking. I was Outta, my patio and trying to drink a beer, and I was just. You know trying to gather my thoughts and see how I can regroup in Santa Monica Jane Walker manages a sweater store called texture. Her store was boarded up and survived unscathed, but other businesses near her did not hear. You are coming back from covert, and now with this. It's I mean to recuperate from this. It's going to be a very long haul history. Agree. We took a look at the Rodney King riots, which occurred back in nineteen, ninety two victor. Madison is professor of economics at the College of the Holy. Cross economic activity in the areas affected. didn't return for at least ten years with not to previous levels. He says those riots cost almost five billion dollars worth of economic activity measured in sales over ten years. If people don't feel safe where where their businesses are, then, they don't feel a need to rebuild Madison and his colleagues including Roger Baron at Holy Cross. Cross compared the economic recovery from the LA. Riots with the recovery from Hurricane Andrew in Miami which happened the same, Miami recovered a heck of a lot faster, investors and businesses felt more comfortable returning to Miami. Another reason comes down to how the government responded. The reaction of the federal government was a lot more swifter and spend a lot more money in the case of Miami. People rebuild from hurricanes and can prepare for them. He says social problems seem a lot harder for the country to grapple with in New York. You're for marketplace. So that's where we're GONNA. Go next that last bit. Sabrina was talking about the intersection of social problems and economic disadvantage, and what can be done? What can government do because? Tried this before the government has. Gotten Really Johnson on the phone. She is a professor of social and cultural analysis at. The Duck Johnson welcome to the program. Thank, you. It's great to be here. So as I said in that introduction there will be calls for and need for investment in some of these cities that have been damaged the American. Government has tried this before right? Give me the highlights, would you? Sure I mean I think. There's been several decades many decades of investment in urban areas. Ranging from say the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixties, which really focused on direct investment in people and places so direct subsidies to cut of the nineteen seventies, tickling lunch and eighty nine hundred ninety s where we shifted away from direct spending, two indoor, expending tax expenditures and tax credits. So that's where we are right now. Is that match of our sort of investment in poor areas is via these interact mechanisms of of tax credits wrote. Those are the the empowerment zones. They were called in the Clinton administration the opportunity zones in the two thousand seventeen tax bill. Here's the question though. Does what we're doing now. These texts does it work. It's very mixed I think that the extent that they can work the are places where there's a lot of close collaboration between investors local governments, community groups that really are focused on what works best for a particular community where it doesn't necessarily work as where something is built on the assumption that if we build it, pupil or businesses will come in. That doesn't happen. Field of dreams, great movie, but but maybe not so much in real life. Let me ask you this. Though if the results are mixed and and and that's widely known. Why do we keep doing this? Why don't we try another way? What would that way be? That might be better. I think we do this. Largely because of inertia of their policy, people call them Zombie policies. They are politically attractive to both Democrats and Republicans. It also doesn't require a lot of upfront government money. which is key, so it's not that natural bureaucrat or government official is pocketing. Money could be that you know. Business took the money, and then later we find out five years later. Oh, they didn't really do what they were supposed to do with it so I. Think there's a lot of there's a lot of ways in which these programs are attractive to politicians, because they kind of kicked any potential problems cost down the road. So what's your gut telling? You Profess? Johnson I mean this is. This is a series of of protests and. actions by by people on on on the ground. That? We haven't seen in fifty years. Absolutely. Does your gut tell you might be different or or I think that you know it's this one two punch. The shutdown really revealed I think the vulnerability that many families found themselves in I think the statistic came out last year that many American families had four hundred dollars about four hundred dollars. Cash on hand and if you live in a place like near San Francisco that four hundred dollars like a week's worth of rent, and so I think one of the issues. Looking forward is that people have to feel that they're safe that they have a future that they have hope and I think. Having. These incidents of the police on top of economic and I think sort of real emotional distress of what we've been going through I mean this has been a hard month or two for many people, and then it's this. It's kind of the last straw in some ways. Kimberly Johnson. Is a professor of social and cultural analysis at New York University. She does urban politics as I said I of Johnson. Thanks for your time. I appreciate it great. Thank you. This is one of those days and I know there have been a lot of them past eight ten weeks or so is one of those days where you look the world. And then you look at the stock market and you go no come on really. Details, numbers when we get there. Couple of economic realities that come to mind when watching and listening to these protests is that the pandemic in the lockdown have hit state and local tax revenues really hard another. Is that police departments? At least in the cities that are seeing most of the protesting seem to be pretty well supplied and equipped, and that is wrong attention to city budgets and calls for police funding reform. Marketplace's Mariel. Sarah is on that one in a lot of cities, policing eats up a big chunk of the general. Fund in La is latest budget proposal. It's fifty four percent in Minneapolis. It's about thirty six percent, and now with cities forced to make big spending cuts in many cities. The only budget item that is not facing massive cuts is the. The Police Budgets Andrea Ricci researches that criminal justice system at Barnard College were literally in the middle of the biggest economic crisis in the highest levels of unemployment of our generation were in a pandemic without universal affordable healthcare. The argument is that those things should be the priority and not policing advocates also argue that because the bulk of a police department's budget goes towards salaries. If you cut budgets, you'll have fewer patrol officers and fewer instances of police brutality Kumar row is with the Center for Popular Democracy when you have more and more. Police, officers in a community research has shown it. It leads to Warren more. Sort of conflict and interaction, but this is obviously an incredibly complicated topic Simone wykes Obama at the Marshall Project as reported on policing for more than fifteen years. She's look to what happened in different cities that cut their police budgets like Memphis which saw budget cuts and layoffs after the two thousand eight recession. What happened? They spent millions and millions of dollars on police, overtime and research shows that the recipe for disaster. Could you have cops were overwork frustrated angry and that's just a powderkeg waiting to explode also several people I talked to today, said that training is one of the first things police departments would probably stop paying for. I'm Maryelle Sagarra for marketplace. Let me take a minute here and commend to your attention. An interview from the Marketplace Morning Report Day that complements Marielle Story Pretty Nicely David Brancaccio, the host of that program of course with Marc Morial, the president of the National Urban League also the former mayor of New Orleans talking about police and police reform. I recommend that if you missed it on the air. Of course, there's a podcast. With a nod to the fact that the news Firoz is going full blast right now. We are nonetheless obliged to tell you that there is new trouble in the US China trade. Relationship Bloomberg reports China stopped buying some American agricultural products after President Trump criticized Beijing over its treatment of Hong Kong last week. That of course bodes ill for the phase one trade deal, which took two long years to negotiate, so we got Gretchen Blau on the phone. She has a customs broker at logistics plus in your EPA. Everything is still in effect. are importers are still paying that extra three one tariff to thirty two steel and aluminum tariff in the solar panel tariff, but there have been a lot of exclusions granted in the past several months most notably with the personal protective equipment. We have one customer in particular the cells cleaning equipment that produces cleaning equipment, and they get a lot of their parts supplied from China and Europe and whatnot so. Their business was actually ramping up here in the US because everyone has been cleaning everything very deeply so. You know we've seen a lot of slow downs, but that's one case where I think that things are increasing anything that has to do with with cleaning or the P. E. Supplies. We've been checking in with our customers to see how how we can help. Just as it was letting up in Asia, and the supplies were now available for for importing customers then the production slowed down here so. Now, you know we're housing is something that we have to consider for those parts so? Our team has been very busy in looking at alternatives for how to how to move stuff how to store stuff. rerouting things that type of thing so I have I have a twelve year old son and he basically asked me. Why are you an essential worker? Because you see the doctors and the nurses and the and the first responders that are true heroes, and all of this and he, he's basically thinking. Will you sit in an office all day? And what exactly do do that so essential? So I explained to him that I was part of the supply chain, and when important thing I was doing was helping the doctors and the nurses and whatnot have those supplies that they need to protect themselves and and import those supplies and that's. Why was an essential worker? Gretchen Blau Customs, broker and essential worker at logistics plus in Erie, Pennsylvania. Up, we are working hard to absorb what is happening in the full sense of that word throughout the US economy. Right now we all are we all are, but first. Let's do the numbers. Here go on a Monday. The Dow Industrials Up Ninety one points today, three tenths percent, twenty-five, thousand, four, seventy, five up sixty two points about six tenths, percent, ninety, five and fifty, two the S P five hundred picked up eleven as three tenths percent. Anything's at three thousand and fifty five zoom boom during lockdown as traders excited in advance of the video conferencing Software Company, releasing its quarterly results tomorrow. Shearson zoom picked up thirteen and seven percent that company, now worth more than fifty billion dollars. Bonds fell yield on the ten year Treasury note rose zero point six six percents. You're listening to marketplace. This is marketplace. I'm Kai Ryssdal no matter where you are in this country. Some of the injuries you saw on the news run social media. This weekend probably came from Los Angeles windows shattered on Rodeo. Drive the phrase I can't breathe spray painted on a building in one of these cities high end malls the National Guard. Out in front of City Hall. For Construction Worker Rossio Montano. She's one of the ten people we started following in our series. The United States work for her. These are images of the place that she calls home and of the city that she is helping to build. Here's a dispatch. She sent us this morning. So today's Monday and I am not going to work at the job was close today for some cleaning to covered. That was supposed to be done over the weekend, but sins, but to the curfew in downtown La. It was pushed to today during working hours. It was nice to get a little. to sleep in a little bit. But on Friday I actually had a friend message me and asked me if you know if I was okay, it was near my I wasn't really aware of how big it had gotten. And then that's when I started. Looking more into it and I saw videos and people posting stuff and the streets Kinda like vandalized and a lot of the been. Up. I do expect to see like like the aftermath. FOLLOW UP! There are the past couple of days a whole lot of people being arrested and getting those people out of jail has given a big boost to bail reform marketplace jasmine guards. Has that story the bail system disproportionately affects low income. People and people of Color says Professor Joshua Page from the University of Minnesota people that are don't have. The resources typically can't afford shoe. Get out a bill or they. Work with the bill on copy and. Losing hundreds of thousands of dollars there have been cases of people unable to pay stuck in jail for weeks and months before a court date for years, organizations like the Minnesota Freedom Fund have worked to build them out right now. They're focusing a lot. On the hundreds of activists being arrested nationwide Steve. Boland is with the Minnesota Freedom, Fund your younger people. It's more people who are directly impacted by police violence by these systems in the first place that are showing up in the street. Disproportionately probably the ones getting arrested, and probably the ones that will be assigned bail rather than just released. The Fund has exceeded twenty million dollars in donations in the last week or so this activism has its critics, one of the states that has eliminated cash bail for minor offenses is New York the NYPD police commissioner recently said that's led to an increase in some crimes and some wonder when you donate to a fund, who exactly are. Are you bailing out? Robin Steinberg of the nonprofit, the bill project says it's a moot point. Serious offenders might not even be eligible for bail, or it might be too high as for misdemeanors, the only thing that stands between freedom and being locked in cage, right and locked in a jail cell is the size of your bank account. She says innocent until proven guilty should not have a price tag on it I'm Jasmine garst for marketplace. The Federal Reserve is with maybe just a little bit of argument here, the most powerful single actor in this economy, and for most of the hundred seven something years. It's been around. It has dealt mostly in the realm of financial markets and the banking system that though is changing and was changing even before the pandemic and obviously before this past week the Minneapolis Fed launched the opportunity and inclusive growth institute in two thousand seventeen at researchers and does outreach on economic inequality, a systemic issue in this country that does seem especially relevant at this moment, Abo Wozniak is the inaugural director of that institute. WOZNIAK WALKMAN program. Thank you. So Chair. Powell has been really vocal about inequality, and what recessions and times like these due to people who don't have means in this society. That is not historically been the case with the Fed right. They have not really usually concentrated on inequality as a policy area. Do I have that right? I think those fair to say. I think that. Is the product of a number of things. I could talk for a long time about but I. Think as a summary that's that's a fair thing to say so. How now do you go about with your institute? Making monetary policy right interest rates, which is what the Fed is known for fold that into inequality in the society, and and how an issue it is, as we've seen these past couple of days. Right so I want to be clear that. Today. I'm not addressing current monetary policy and kind of per our our blackout policies, but I think it's fair to ask. How does the opportunity and inclusive growth institute fit into the mandate of the Federal Reserve I our main projects at the institute as really to bring new information into the Federal Reserve System, and really grow the roots that we have in a much more diverse much broader research community. The Fed has. Has. Deep Roots in research communities that I think wouldn't be a surprise to folks. Well, we don't have a strong connection with is experts who understand how low income families get by I would say we have less connection experts on exactly how work is restructured evolving and bringing those voices, just injecting all that knowledge into the Federal Reserve System something we ought to do at the institute. You are there in the twin cities. The center of so much of or the origin point of so much of what has been happening. If the institute is successful and in well. Let's give it a decent run right twenty five years. You've been able to to really put your policies into practice. What does it look like on the ground so? I think that on the ground we will have you know I think a much stronger sense of the broader ramifications of Fed decisions. I think. It would be great for me if it were routine to ask. What is the opportunity and inclusive growth institute? Think about this? If folks are routinely turning to the institute and routinely turning to really are broader. Research to say what should we do with our cities What should we do with wage? We are a resource for that, even though those are not the main pieces in our toolkit. Just because you mentioned it I, I wanNA. Make sure people understand in periods leading up to millions of the federal open market. Committee, the Federal, reserve is is in what's known as a blackout, and there is typically nobody from the Fed. Really does any interviews or or make speeches. You decided to talk to us about this issue and we appreciate that very much. I wonder why you didn't just say sorry. Blackout as you could easily have done. Well, A couple of reasons I guess I could have said that. I will be clear. I didn't make the decision all by myself. So we decided this as a team. But I. Think it's really. A moment, sometimes in these days at a loss for words so I'm sorry about that. I think is really important for folks. To understand that. I would say events have gotten quite a head of the institute as they've gotten ahead of a lot of folks who are working to make. Kind of concrete policy change in these years, but I think. The reason I said, yes, as I think it's important for folks understand that. This is immediately on the mind of the Federal Reserve, and we are taking real actions to pull in the information that we need to understand what folks are really experiencing on the ground. It's incredibly important when it's timely for the Federal Reserve. That We're working hard to absorb what is happening in the full sense of that word throughout the US economy right now and the institute is a really important instrument for that. And I think other parts of the Federal Reserve are are working hard at that as well so so that's why I said yes. WWL WOZNIAK. She is the director of the inaugural director, actually of the opportunity and inclusive growth institute at the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis Dr any thanks for your time. I really appreciate it. Thanks. This final note on the way out today. It's going to be a quick gun because they're a little bit tight on time. We know there is a public health crisis right now, and there is an economic crisis as well, but the Congressional Budget Office said today, but that economic squeeze is GonNa last long after this lockdown is done the CBO says the American economy is going to be almost eight trillion dollars smaller by the year twenty thirty than it would have been had. Nobody ever heard the word covid nineteen. That's about a three percent hit from where we're supposed to be at the end of the decade. All right, we gotta go. Here's your moment of economic context on the way out planning calendar edition. This Friday is the first Friday of the month, which means we are going to get the May unemployment report spoiler alert. It is not. GonNa be Great. Our daily production team includes bridge, Bonnard and Corbin, Alabam, real horse, show, mckenry, days plus IOS and Bennett. Rozelle, we will see tomorrow about. This is APN.

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Iowa: Medicare for All Battleground

Medicare for All

28:44 min | 8 months ago

Iowa: Medicare for All Battleground

"Right here this is not about politics kiss is a health. Emergency can't wait. I have some theoretical face about the better. Well never ever. We have been reporting on prepaid daily in Europe and this matter of medical care Ross position that means you have a right to come to my house and conscripts believe in slavery lever. I'm Benjamin Day Stephanie Nakajima and this is Medicare for all the podcast for everybody who needs healthcare except for Michael Bloomberg Mike Bloomberg. What did he do this time? So so as you know. He's been running for president. You don't say I wish he was running out or something so elevated profile a little bit yeah and the. DNC has changed the rules so that he can participate and the next thing Without having as reaching reaching the threshold for donors That previous candidates had had to meet to attend the debates. I'm glad we're making some provision for billionaires because we haven't done enough for them yet in this country I think we should really ease their way into the process. All Right I agree with cutting Mike Bloomberg out of the Medicare for all coverage. I feel like usually I think that it's a solid solid Eric Policy. That everybody should have it. You know well like in Scandinavian countries whether rich or poor but if you can buy your way into the democratic debate stage then you can buy your own damn healthcare and besides we're cutting at least one personnel each week during the someone's gotTa go So speaking of the primaries as we are recording this the Iowa caucuses just just started today. So I mean it feels like this. Election has already been going on forever but in reality the election is just now starting. Today's recording this You'll be listening to it on Tuesday after the caucuses finished And if you're lucky enough to live in Iowa or one of these primary states not only are you just drowned out submerged with advertisements from the candidates but The Partnership for America's Healthcare Future Future. which is the like Orwellian slash dystopia phrase that That has come up. They come up with for the coalition that it was created basically to defeat Medicare for all so this is the Health Insurance Industry Pharma. This is the for profit hospitals. This is the Chamber of Commerce All of the powers of a line to try and undermine Medicare for all and they are actually also spending hundreds of thousands of dollars running ads in the primary states. It's and We thought we would actually Take a short break from all these candidates and talking about the candidates running for office and like like put a little bit of focus on the Partnership for America's healthcare future and how they're trying to undermine Medicare fraud shoe. Listen to this ad or sure. Okay Get ready to enjoy some good old fashioned advertising. We come from different walks of life but we agree on one important thing. We don't want WanNa be forced into a one-size-fits-all government insurance system. The politicians may call it medicare for all medicare buying or the public option. But they mean the same thing a higher taxes or higher premiums lower quality care politicians and bureaucrats in control of our health care. We can't afford one size. Fits all planned and we need to fix. What's broken? Start over so What was your first take? That was like a lot a lot of gobbledygook thrown at us in the span of thirty seconds. Every single possible talking point smashed into thirty seconds sometimes sometimes repeated two or three times. You know you don't you shouldn't be afraid of one. Size fits all healthcare. I don't know if you've ever had it before. It's like a ill-fitting sweater sweater. You know. When I lived in England everyone basically does have the same healthcare and it turns out? The comprehensive healthcare fits every single person. AH regardless of your body size. That's right. I mean every single person has a body. So I kind of like the idea of one-size-fits-all home insurance. No the name of this. This ad which you can see on Youtube is called same thing and actually what they're arguing. I think the main argument of the AD is that Medicare for all is the same exact thing as a medicare buy in and a public option. So why the hell are they renting this in in primary states like Iowa and what's the point of like conflicting those those two. I wonder any any expansion of public health insurance. is perceived to be threat. I think which is a strategic mistake on on their part I think because it rather than co opting One of the more more corporate solutions like a public option. They A. They'd rather just go all in against any sort of reform which I think is going to backfire on them. Yeah I mean they've they've stated that one of their goals the partnership schools is to keep Medicare for all and public option off of the Democratic Party Platform Twenty twenty which seems very unlikely given that every candidate it under stages backing one of those two And I I guess it's confusing to me like WH- every debate medicare for all. Is the number one issue in the presidential in and the democratic debate and all in the main thing they talk about is how different. Their healthcare plans are So people are constantly exposed. The huge gap between a Medicare medicare for all proposal and a public option. Buying and these guys are like running ads swimming upstream like trying to convince you that basically they're the same thing Another thing that struck me in there. I mean. Do you think that this is GonNa work. Like who are they trying to help one candidate win. Or what do you think. The goal is ultimately Emilia running these ads targeted at Democratic primary states. Yeah whatever their plan is It's not actually working all. The ads have not only failed to really make a dent in public opinion about single payer but they've also failed to prevent The more you're liberal candidates like Sanders and Warren. From doing well in Iowa on factor in fact sanders is surging right now And in two thousand sixteen trump won the IRA fifty one to forty one. And if the polling today is correct If you know we were in the general and Iowa was voting. Today he'd win by a smaller smaller margin against any Democratic candidate reforming from you know the public option. Democrats to the all out Medicare for all Democrats Democrats by only six point spread Went up against you know Sanders or Warren So what is the lesson here. Money can't buy you love. Yeah they haven't won my love yet. I wonder I mean the other thing that's interesting is they're kind of they're they're imposing the same. They're they're trying to punish certain candidates for running on these issues But they're imposing the same costs on candidate support Medicare for all and a public option. So there's there's really no disincentive for Democrats to support Medicare for all and it's also I think a lesson about how you know. I think the Democrats who are pushing a public option. They're saying thing. Hey look this more moderate choice. It's not GonNa get the full opposition of the healthcare industry right We're just going to tinker around the edges. We're going to expand access a little that we're gonNA try and do things here and there to not make healthcare right but to like expand coverage Maybe make things a little less horrible But they are actually really triggering the full opposition of the healthcare industry the same exact Resources and money and messaging that Medicare will fight gets So the establishment government is going to have to come up with another reason to taxing pair over a public option because in terms of political feasability I don't really see an advantage advantage anymore. Exactly this gets to the core. The most common pushback we hear on Medicare for all his political feasibility. And that's like a reason to do a public option instead it turns out that there's the same existential crisis in the healthcare industry. That and I mean it's worth remembering. The partnership is not just the health insurance industry. It's also also Pharma. It's also hospitals. It's also chambers of commerce and all of these groups have agreed to fight a public option equally to fighting Medicare for all so much so that they're running ads trying to convince you that the same exact thing which is incredible to me so next? We're going to look at it. A couple of ads been run. Also attacking Medicare for all Again I think premised on the notion that you can get something politically after going after Democrats for Medicare for all and or the public option. Same thing if you didn't the same exact thing And in this case we're looking at two Senate races in Kansas and Michigan So in Michigan Senator Gary Peters is being attacked by this pack called Better Future Michigan a right wing pack and in Kansas Barbara bully a a sitting. US Senator is being attached attacked by a Republican Competitor who's running for a seat Named Susan Weigl who is the current And this is incredible to me. She's the current Senate president of the State Senate in Kansas And we're GONNA listen to her at first because it is just almost unbelievable I'm I'm so sad you can. We cannot give you guys the graphics of this individual imagery. But we'll try and describe to you so I'm going to play that now. It's called socialized. Medicine also known as Medicare for all the government decides what doctor you can see when you can see Dr. It's expensive leads to long waits and about as efficient and your local DMV DMV and this is the Healthcare Warren Sanders Eos and Barbara Bully. Want to give you Susan. My family like many other families his hand. Our share of healthcare battles are manuals instilled in me a strong on commitment to provide a healthcare system for all Americans socialized medicine which leads to long waits for care. Lack of choice in healthcare rationing is never the answer see her planet team waggled Dot Com. I'm Susan Waco and I approved this message. I love how the voice over call the team Wagle though she introduced himself as wiggle. I really want to join team Wagle. I don't know why. So what do you make of this ad That's been being run in key throughout Kansas. It is unfortunate that you can't see the visuals because it just straight up nineteen eighty-four. Mum Mom starts as it's describing sort of the nightmare system of a single payer healthcare. I'm sorry socialized medicine You're you're basically in this underground Soviet era compound In this breadline or something. It's it's just extremely dramatic attic armed security guards like policing this long slow line of people shuffling along thinking Muse of you. If you know the band Muse cover art move very much That sort sort of aesthetic and then there's the dude who is Blindfolded sort of groping forward blindly walks through a door and then walks up to a precipice blindfolded and then at the end of the video falls off the precipice. I'm not sure what the Metaphor Metaphor is there. it's supposed to be government controlling. But yet he is walking blindly and falling into a pit of despair or something So anyway and really subtle music. Change their nascent. Matic Nice job. Tim Weigel So let's just let's plow through. Let's listen also to the Gary Peters Attack Ed and then we can kind of take this all together and try and make sense of at all So here we go. This is the better future Michigan ad going. After after Gary Peters ideas extreme their policies radical and Garry Peters is falling right in line Peter Supports Medicare medicare for all siding with radical liberals Gary Peters even supports the green new deal killing millions of jobs devastating Michigan's auto industry. He so liberal. He's voted with his party. Ninety four percent of the time. Call Gary Peters tell him to represent Michigan not radical Washington Washington liberals amazing. I wonder how many times the word radical was used in that compulsive compulsive use of that word. God I love how they assume that the the mainstream Democratic Party is is liberal. So you can measure someone's liberalness by how often they vote with their party But you know the one thing I appreciate about this ads. Compared to the partnership ones. They go really old school. It's like Affiliating thing Medicare for all with the left and with socialism That's like the old school attack on Medicare for all where the partnership is like trying to confuse medicare for all with with centrist ideas which is a confusing developments in our movement. I have to say So what do you make altogether of Why are they running? These ed's I mean. Is it going to make an impact. Do you think in these races. Well that is interesting. What you're talking about with the Titus Socialism you know I think Obama received more than than almost any President that we've seen and yet he was re elected immigrants. Yeah Oh my oh gosh exactly so I think the first takeaway is that socialism. I don't know if it's really gonNA work anymore I don't think I saw another poll the other day that showed that even when you you mentioned that Bernie Sanders is a socialist And makes a very small dent in people's public perception of him And also I think it says something about our messaging that you know. Our messaging doesn't really matter like whatever we say about it whether it's single payer whether it's Medicare for all whether it's socialized medicine all that stuff because I think that the opposition is going to frame even if we were fighting for a public option as socialism And you know we don't get to decide whether other opposition calls a socialist or not so. Yeah and I mean that was like the big thing I remember going into the CHARAC- fight Obama and and and sort of Democratic leadership made this calculated decision that you know if we push for Medicare for all now. We're just going to be characterized socialists. We're going to be like seen as left left as a takeover We'll pay you know all this costs. And then they decided instead to push a public option and they were still characterises Socialists They paid exactly the same political price just as we were talking about with this partnership ad as if they had pushed for the thing that would actually solve our healthcare system which would be the Medicare for all type system. Opposition isn't GonNa go with your focus. Group tested message. You can just forget about that. And this is the great thing about advertising is it's just basically the lying. Yeah I mean everything we listened to is just lying in both of these at Senate. Ads are kind of funny because they're trying to link These Democratic candidates who are actually kind of the center under more center right of the Democratic Party Both of these two senators Bully I believe is a former Republican. Who Switched Party affiliations to run in Kansas And to link them to like ABC and Bernie and Elizabeth Warren This great free advertisements for AFC all over the country it. She could run for National Office at some point because everyone knows her name calculation to tie the most popular politician in America Bernie Sanders with this person who is not nearly as as progressive. Or you know in our is good as as Bernie. So there's there's one interesting twist to both of these ads that we haven't haven't yet revealed then makes it truly bizarre and interesting. You know where I'm going with this so both of these senators WHO had attack? Ads Run against them for supporting Medicare for all. Do Not Support Medicare for all neither Gary Peters nor Barbara Bully are on on the the sanders bill in the Senate. They haven't cosponsored the bill. They have not been running on Medicare for all they haven't expressed support anywhere for Medicare for all so that is like the twist that makes these ads to me truly almost unfathomable like what is going on here. What's the dynamic it's also screwing up our our campaigns? Were trying to flush out candidates positions on medicare for all. And that's why we're you know we've been doing this. Bird dogging campaign so that we get them on video saying yes. I do support this bill or no. I do not support the bill. Although in there you could say in a way that it's helping the movement from Medicare for all in it all these candidates who are probably getting pressured by their constituents to support Medicare for all I mean something like eighty to eighty five percent of Democrats support Medicare for all by most polling And it's still strongly popular among independents usually upwards of sixty percent and then shockingly more than a third of Republicans even and Support Medicare for all. So you know all of these senators are GonNa have intense pressure to sport Medicare for all But now they're kind of paying the price for supporting Medicare for all even if they don't I kind of feel I wonder if it's going to start changing their political calculations if it's like well I'm already getting attacked supporting this. What's the reason not you too at that point right? It's probably just industry money right. Yeah absolutely I mean I think both are side and then the partnership side or the opposition side. They're both. We're both making a gamble. That revealing you know that this person does support Medicare for all. His person does not support Medicare for all is going to help are cause for us. We feel like making that reveal is going to cause pushback from their constituents to actually get on the bill and they feel like it's going to shit cost them politically And I think that The polls really are with us here that most people do support Medicare for all I feel like we're the strategy. Asia is one. That's going to work for us but I don't know how well it's going to actually work for the opposition I think that a lot of candidates will see that there The opposition is making in this gamble on tying them with Medicare for all and that I think could impacts you know how brave they feel about coming out for Medicare for all but ultimately I think that this this is a tactic that belongs in our court right and this is like the big question is does it help or hurt you to run a medicare for all and obviously that's going to be different state to state district district But by and large nationally. I think we've learned pretty quickly that you can run on this issue and win. And it's a populist position Which I think one of the big reasons for Donald trump kind of winning nationally was that the Democratic Party really retreated from? I'm in populist. Is kind of a broad rod phrase that includes some terrible right wing populism in some progressive like everybody in type policies But I think you know. The Democratic Party kind of leaned corporate for years and it just been getting destroyed and elections across the country So you know. I think we're finding over and over again that you can run on Medicare for all all even kind of working class more centrist it. It's not an issue that polls that is a left right issue all the time I mean we have like I think. Half of the Blue Dog Caucus in Congress is on board the Medicare for all bill in the house And that's because they're fiscal conservatives and Medicare for all saves money so it's not a traditional left-right thing but there is a concerted attempt to make it look that way to look like a left issue and shore up support on the Republican side. Because because they must also see that Republicans when polled actually support Medicare for all Either up to a slight majority or almost a majority. So yeah so this is super interesting And we're gonNA continue you know. Elections have just started again. Feels like we've you've been doing it for a year now already But the official primaries are actually rolling. Now so we're GONNA track how Medicare for all is being used by the How the opposition is trying to attack us? I'm also we're GONNA try and follow like the breakthroughs in the movement Elections are kind of a weird time for issue based organizing for social movement organizing It can either really bolster your work. But then sometimes it's like everyone is working on these election campaigns working for certain candidates and it can like draw like suck the energy out have efforts to actually pass something to make a difference But a couple I wanted to talk about a couple of wins in our movement in California And we just had in January twenty seventh the very first meeting of the Healthy California for all commission which I imagine. No one has heard about anywhere because the press it doesn't cover stuff like this It was passed actually last year. Two Thousand Nineteen And I'm just GonNa read the the mission statements of the Commission It's a little weird. The mission statement but as the Healthy California for all commission will work to develop a plan for advancing progress toward achieving healthcare delivery. The system for California the provides coverage and access through a unified financing system. This is a run on sentence people including but not limited to a a single a single payer financing system that was all one-sentence. It's not my fault. I tripped over it. And then the end of it says the commission will prepare an initial report to the governor and legislature by July twenty twenty with a final report in February twenty twenty one so basically the goal here is. Can you lay out a single payer plan for California And this was passed by Governor newsom enacted by Governor newsome who ran on Medicare for all And we have a California legislature that historically storks has also supported maker for all but they get cold feet when it actually comes to doing it so this is like their baby steps to doing it a little bit further down the Road Although you know they always when they do appear it's never like just let's plan single payer single payer but also show us some other options The part of the sentence here that really threw me was a unified financing system including but not limited to a single payer financing system. What's a unified financing system? That's not single payer. He's not the same. That's the same exact thing unified but not single so we'll see what the commission comes is up with To fulfill the second part of that mandate But it's it's exciting. Because it's it's a breakthrough Activists had to fight for and win the creation of this commission And you know the history and California's really interesting California's legislature has passed Medicare for all bills twice both undergo governor Schwarzenegger terminated the bill vetoed it twice in a row And then of course we've had a couple. I love in a row democratic governors and it was like. Oh Shit now we have to actually pass this thing So the legislature got a little bit cold feet The Commission I think is the compromise for now California's so weird. I feel like we. We probably would have had a single payer plan passed in California years ago. Oh if they weren't California meaning There's a weird law on the books there that if you have any law that increases taxes you need a two thirds words majority in the House and the Senate and this is why when we ever recession California's finance it. Just like swirl down the drain. Because they're incapable of raising new taxes to addresses deficits and downturns in the economy And then they have an another weird thing which is that everything ends up going to the ballot in California for reasons. I don't entirely understand So there's a worry there that if you even if you pass a Medicare for all bill in California They think the healthcare industry will immediately run a ballot initiative due to repeal it so I think the thinking is at some point. It's probably GonNa take a ballot initiative to win. Medicare for all up a proactive balance of to to pass. Yes Medicare for all in California So this commission might be like the first steps for developing that plan. So we'll keep an eye on that but yeah that would be awesome. I think California. Is it sort of in an interesting position to do. So I mean I think based off the fact that They have for for example already expanded public health insurance to Undocumented children back in two thousand sixteen That was a really big win and then they they also expanded it to some undocumented adults I think any undocumented adults twenty five or under last year so it seems to me that there's political consensus on everybody in nobody out sort of system that I think is rare maybe and other States and I think that's like a huge thing they have going for them in terms of actually like passing a single payer. That's GONNA work. Yeah and also we should mention Oregon Oregon's legislature and governor also signed into law Signed a law that would that creates a task force on universal health. Care It it has the tests. I hasn't been created quite yet They're still Appointing members and kind of going through their process of having other members appointed But we'll keep an eye on that as well because it's a very similar setup it's like design us a plan that we can then move forward through the legislature I feel like Oregon. California New Yorkers worker some of the states that are edging closer to pushing a Medicare for all plan And that is you know. That's how candidate got universal healthcare one province Saskatchewan of all places past you know Medicare for all for hospitals I think first and then other provinces copied it and then they ended up adding physician care And eventually there was a national national bill but it kind of trickled its way upward which actually many social breakthroughs in the US work that way. But we're GONNA have to win this at the national level eventually So I think we're going to wrap this up. This is our very first podcast Yay do so you can reach us if you have story ideas. If you have a win in the Medicare for all movement mm it. You WanNa tell us about at podcast at healthcare now dot org that's healthcare all one word dash now dot org our twitter handle is at HCC we now and you can also go to our website healthcare not at Org. Yeah and this week We actually held a Webinar on John. Why and how to bird dog your candidates for Congress and beyond we held this Webinar with the Center for Popular Democracy accuracy which has been bird dogging candidates For a really long time now including on Medicare for all. Please check out the Webinar. It's on the front page of healthcare. Now wow dot. Org along with a complete guide for how to do your own bird dogging mission and this is how you go out there and fuck shit up. Skit we'll talk to you next sweep breath.

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Of course, it's not low tax if you're poor if you're poor it's one of the highest taxing states in the country. Great politics you had here. Congrats. And it's true. I come from California, which is a hot a high tax state. But we also use that money to beat you at a sport called basketball. Who all you wants? It says here's the rockets are struggling. I would like to discuss one other thing tonight. I like to discuss with you a film called avengers endgame. I will do. So I will do so without any spoilers. You're welcome. However, she on you. All right. This is a consumer capitalist society controlled by three or four corporations that told you to see it already, and I don't know what kind of consumer citizen. You are to have not seen it yet. That's not patriotic. But there's one now I also love the movie, I gave it a ten. I walked out. I had a blast. I texted a couple of POWs about it. They gave it a four because they didn't like the time travel mechanics. I shoved them right in a locker because that movie was awesome. And the guys in it or berry hot. Loved the movie. However, there was one aspect of the film that did bug me. It turns out, and you may have missed this. But there was a big milestone in avengers colon and game. This movie broke barriers. This movie had the first openly gay character in a marble. Who was gay? You ask did four grab a hammer. Did iron man, man. Some iron did Hawkeye catch some arrow. Did low key finally stopped being so low key did Carol danvers get to less out like she clearly was supposed to do and captain marvel, but they were too chicken shack. No. Culmination of a decade of films, a grand finale a sweeping epic that began when we first found out that Robert Downey junior was going to be playing iron, man. And we all said to ourselves. Okay. Sure. I don't know. I guess. Yeah. Sure. Him. Okay. The first openly gay character any marvel movie is in one group therapy scene where Joe Russo the straight director played a powerless character. Just some guy who is sat. Okay. He talks about going on a first date with someone and Joe in the character of a gay man says something like I think I may see him again and the clouds part and the trumpets play. And we have learned that this insignificant on remarkable, basically nameless. Character is the first openly gay character in a marvel movie because he went on a same sex date offscreen. I want to read a quote from Joe Russo about this where he was asked by the Hollywood reporter about the scene. He said representation is really important to us in these movies. And I think the thing we are happiest most about marble moving forward is it's becoming incredibly diverse we've done four of these films, and it was incredibly important to us to have a gay character represented somewhere in one of these four movies. We've felt so strongly about it that I wanted to play the character in the film. Thank you so much. Maybe there was supposed to be a gay superhero. But the studio stopped them, maybe there was supposed to be more substantial gay character. But it was blocked maybe it is incredibly important to them. But this scene is not proof of that. To me. It is proof of the opposite of that. When I was fourteen I could've really used a gay superhero in a blockbuster film. And I think now there are a lot of gay kids that could really use a gay superhero in marvel movie they could right now. And all these billions of dollars later all the patting ourselves on the back of that. How far we've come all this opposed liberalism of Hollywood, all the fundraisers, Democrats, and all the talk marvel has refused to be there for those fans in these movies. That's just the truth. How many movies is going to take before marvel has a gay superhero in these movies to me this first openly gay character in a marvel movie is a sign of how far we have to go. How cowardly corporations can be. And how dangerous it is. When so few of them control so much of the media we consume it is two thousand and nine thousand nine hundred and we will take to the streets. If we must, but we will say it the guys in these movies are very hot. And it's time they fuck each other. It is a chin. I have led before let them buck them. But then. Let them book. I got two thousand Texans Cohen for gay sex in a marvel movie. America is ready. All right. All right. Let's start the show. We have a great show and a lot to get to tonight. A Texas State coordinator at the center for popular democracy. Please welcome or Sadi's Fulbright. Hi, I'm doing good. I'm great. Yes. So I want to bring up the rest of our guests before I do, you know, we're gonna talk a lot about William bar and the end of American democracy. But before we get to that. Can you talk a little bit about what you're working on here in Texas where people that may not be following Texas politics, very closely and kind of what's happening right now. So I worked for an organization called local progress is a project of the center for popular democracy. And I lead our Texas work logo progresses a national network. A progressive local elected officials across the country and in the state of Texas. I work with elected officials and major cities like Dallas Austin, Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, and we've been trying to push for worker rights protection immigration protections things that can reform our criminal Justice system. Currently we're fighting our state legislators about issues like paid sick leave and fair scheduling and giving construction workers restroom breaks. And our state legislators are telling local elected officials that they don't have the right to pass policies to protect workers and immigrants, and so this week our state legislators have been pushing LGBT discrimination ordinances and policies do not protect our workers and immigrants, and so we've been coming together as cities to push back against state legislators on those things. So this week we been focusing on this week. We've been focusing on insuring that the paid sickly policies that we passed in Dallas Austin is in its own Neo are protected. I'm hoping that Houston will join us in this fight. But yes till your city council members who push for pay sickly, but we're trying to protect those cyber rights at the local level because we live in a conservative state that doesn't believe in that. All right. Thank you for walking. Walk through that. Yes. Right. Next. He is an activist award winning former NFL running back and the host of the podcast now what he's welcome Aaron falls. Dr. Doing good, man. How you doing? It's good to hear. Van's here. I hey, how you doing? All right. Let's bring out next panelists. She's a comedian and EMMY nominated writer for her work on the show berry the second season of which is airing now on HBO, please welcome back, Emily Heller. I Emily I. I was also in the NFL. Which is what they call the national forensic league. Highschool debate. Lincoln douglas. I went to the tournament of champions, not a big deal for a second. I thought you were going to say feminist leaguers. That too probably honorary. I don't know. All right. Let's get into it. What a week. Just when we thought we'd never talk about Robert Muller again shit hit the fan this week on Tuesday, the Washington Post and the New York Times both reported that Robert Mueller was so taken aback by attorney general William bars misrepresentations of his report that Muller wrote bar a letter admonishing him for undermining a central purpose for which the department appointed a special counsel to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations. He sent the letter privately. So now, it just feels like we're getting a deleted scene from a shitty episode three back, you know. Anyway, yesterday bar got grilled by members of the Senate Judiciary committee about his decision to release summaries that were not congruent with special counsel found presidential candidate. Senator Kamala Harris, also drew some blood for getting him to admit he hadn't reviewed the underlying evidence of the report. And when she asked if he had been asked to investigate Trump's political enemies, he said this as a president or anyone at the White House ever asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone. I wouldn't I wouldn't. Yes. Or no. Could you repeat that question? I locate it has the president or anyone at the White House ever asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone. Yes. Or no, please, sir. The president or anybody else? Seems you would remember something like that and be able to tell us, but I'm trying to grapple with the word suggest. I mean, there have been discussions of matters out there that they have not asked me to open investigation. But perhaps they've suggested I don't know. I wouldn't say suggests. I dunno inferred. You don't know. Delightful to watch. Can I just again, this is defend tastic moment. She got him into very important. It's very important so much more important than the little thing. I'm about to say, which is implied not inferred. Right. Right. Right. Right. Just like implied. It should be. Right. But we're not even gonna it doesn't even matter because it's not important. It's stupid. Anyway, something we can debate in the camps because they're clearly focused on investigating their political opponents. And again, we learned in the New York Times, I believe today that Donald Trump is hell bent on finding ways to investigate his opponents, including Joe Biden. So Nancy Pelosi said this week that bar lied to congress, which is a crime chairman Nadler is threatening to hold the AG bar in contempt of congress at this point. No one can claim bar acted in good faith Trump and his people continue to try to obstruct Justice to this very day. Aaron I want to start with you. Why do you think Republicans are so bad at committing crimes without getting caught? And yet so good at it. Not. Mattering that they've been caught. Could you repeat the question? Oh. Honestly, I think it's a. Cultural political thing, actually, I don't think is necessarily just partisan. But. I think there's a rationale missing and people's brains today that doesn't necessarily have the capacity to critically think and funny, but this is true. Right. Just that simple clip. Right. We're laughing at it. But this is an issue like we're actually talking about a dude who can't differentiate like we're talking about words, and he's like, he's dancing. And it's it's it's scary. But this is the reality that we occupy. So that's you have to do your part. I don't I don't know. I don't have the remedy, man. Fuck mercedes. So I think there's a real sense that we're at eight turning point not in terms of Trump and his cronies being held accountable. But actually the opposite a sense that they're quite emboldened. Right. Donald Trump is clearly looking to investigate anyone who may oppose him. He feels emboldened by the fact that he was able to intercede it his own investigation and the investigation of others without consequence. And yet at the same time, you're often people talking about whether or not we should even be focusing on this. There's no consensus among Democrats as to whether we should be pursuing impeachment. For example, you're someone on the ground who's not working on how to hold Trump accountable. You're working is ways in some ways. But you're working on the nuts and bolts of politics on the ground of the issues that touch people's lives. Do you think it's still important that congress focus on corruption and the chaos inside of the ministration, or is it a mistake that we're not spending more of that effort on healthcare and other issues are is it still a distraction even know Trump seems to be more brazen than. I think it's both. And I think that right now, we're seeing our democracy spiral downwards in the idea that we should take our attention away from what he's actually doing which is legitimately Turney democracy into dictatorship. And corruption is something that we shouldn't ignore it. But at the same time, there are real issues happening that the local level that we shouldn't take the pressure off of. And so I think we have the capacity as humans as organizers as people who are engaged in this democracy. I wanna see it strengthen to be able to to do both. So. Here in Texas, better Rourke recently defeated cruise by negative three points. What day was that? But you're about to have another Senate election John Cornyn is about. Yeah. We'll get to it's part of a game out. What would be most helpful for you on the ground to hearing from Washington about John Cornyn about sort of the national political conversation as your organization here in Texas that we currently have a Senator who is not taking Trump to task who's not holding them accountable. And it's it's that's the theory that we get him outta that seat. Because of that we legitimately do not have someone that represents someone who believes in democracy for all people. And and he's showing that by not speaking out against what Trump is doing right now. Emily, yes. If you could ask William bar some questions. What would they be? I feel like my biggest question for him is just okay, we're at three years in to Trump or something like that. Is it your three year? Fifteen I don't know anymore. You don't join this administration at this point. And not know what your job is going to be which is to bring. Shame upon your family. Literally and to ruin your legacy. My question for anyone who joins the administration at this point is like why don't you want to do that in a more fun way? Like, there's so many really fun ways to bring shame upon your family. You could release tick tock karaoke videos of yourself. Singing. Mariah Carey and a diaper like that's more fun than being the attorney general and doing a bunch of crime. I think I have to hope it would look more fun. I it certainly looks more fun. So my question really just like is this rousing you sexually because that's the only way I can imagine justifying doing what he's doing, Emily. Can I add that like bar is known like one he used to work for George H W Bush when he was president, and he was like one of the architects of mass incarceration. So this guy like loves doing this type of crap to us like. It's like he is into. He is like knees deep, and he's like, let's go I'm going to rice. It aroused by this. When you're. When you're. Guy is not new to this. 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That could be you you get stuck. If you don't stay on, the nontoxic borough couch next thing, you know, live in a sewer your named after a renaissance painter you're talking to a giant rat. You're fighting in just it's a mess and about. And we're back. No, it's time for a game called. Okay. Stop works. We roll the clip and the panel can say, okay. Stop at any point to comment usually on. Okay. Stop. We'll show you a clip. That's like Tucker Carlson, China and failing to say the word indefatigable or something. But today we wanted to try something different Hillary Clinton former presidential candidate and current clenching enthusiast went on Rachel Maddow this week. And and really seemed like she had nothing to lose. So let's watch the Republicans in the Senate wouldn't go forward with some of the bipartisan legislation that was meant to secure our elections under orders from the White House. Imagine Rachel that you had one of the democratic nominees for twenty twenty on your show. And that person said, you know, the only other adversary of ours whose anywhere near as good as the Russians is China. So why should Russia have all the fun? And since Russia is clearly backing Republicans. Why don't we ask China tobacco us? I hear. First of all can I just say so far. This is not a good guided meditation. Russia china. I just want people at home to know that she is wearing black on black, which is very cool. Very seriously. Hillary Clinton is reaching her final form. This is the final stage of the Hillary Clinton. Pok mon. And I don't hate it. And what I've read about this clip, the radiating anger from Hillary Clinton. I just. Earns fantastic shared with it. Ask china. That's right. And not only that China if you're listening. Why don't you get Trump's tax returns? I'm sure. I'm just going to say. Yeah. Yes. All of that. I love this. It's like she's saying matching a hypothetical where someone like me goes on a show like this and suggest something like this making be insane. She's saying it like she just suggested ordering fries for the table. We. She does have that much world power. So this could be a real big would richly reward shoe now, according to the Muller report that is not conspiracy because it's done right out in the open. So if after this hypothetical democratic candidate says this on your show within hours all of a sudden, the IRS offices are bombarded with incredibly sophisticated cyber tools looking for Trump's tax returns. And then extracts them and then passes them to. Getting really civic. Little hypothetical scenario has a lot of detail. I think what the back of remind these fuckers may be up next year. Anyway, I might as well go out with style. Wikileaks happens to be and they start being on raveled and disclosed nothing wrong with that. I mean, if you're going to let Russia get away with what they did and are still doing according to Christopher Ray. The current FBI director who said that last week there in our election systems. We're worried about twenty twenty he said, so hey, let's have great power contest. Let's get the Chinese in on the side of somebody else. Just saying that shows how absurd the situation. Right now. I don't know this kingdom over here. It's going to come over here and help us with this. Yes, she's a little bit of this. It does feel like she's about to get on a dragon that spits out copies of what happens. She gets on her dragon to spit out. The what happened fire it caused the way? Bill tries to get on the other dragon. And that other dragons like, no. Schick booklet right off. That doesn't give isn't it ironic. The second she has nothing to win. Exactly when she's the kind of person who could win something. Well, that's the thing is they've they do all those polls of like do people like Hillary Clinton. And it's always like when she's trying to get into office. Everyone hates her. And then the second she's not trying to her numbers. Go way up. I know part of that is misogyny. But I also think part of it is she starts saying stuff like this. She's being into. Stress and this is probably a real popular opinion. So if we can play devil's advocate for a second, okay? So I'm excited taking nobody. Here's a who's Trump? Me neither. But if we could take something positive from this presidency. Let's do it. Hey. Are you ain't even her yet? Sometimes the devil offers really good deals. Signed beforehand. So I think he has diluted the prestige of what a president is in this country. Nobody can lead three hundred million people. Right. It's an insane thought. So what he has done is kind of diluted the seat of what the president is. And so when you see her talking like this shit, she's a human right? And you start seeing the human side of all these politicians with I kind of like, I don't like Trump. Just saying that. Yeah. And I want to preface it. But what he has done for me as you said, you know, what issued is not what I thought it was. And so if candidates go forward like that, I'm okay with that. Because now, it's okay to be humid. You don't have to be these robots who are perfect human being is in the shit that he got away with there's no way Republicans can walk back. Now. You know what I mean? So like humans can be humans again. I'm okay with that. I think he has sent a message, which is there are many many things that are more important than being on message. And no it's true though. I think he has shown the weakness of a lot of thoughts from political consultants for very long time. But the best way to win a campaign because clearly he did not play by that rule book. So. Oh well. I found myself when I saw that clip thinking do I really want the? Am I root for this shit? Now. And I guess I'm not cut. Countries intervening in our politics, saying, I guess I'm not rooting for it. I'm not rooting for him. I don't understand your reaction. When I tell you that the idea the Chinese government listening, Hillary Clinton and reaching in to the data base grabbing those Qube fucked up tax returns and giving them a good WikiLeaks. I'm not for it. I think it's wrong. Some things are more important than politics. That I heard somebody scream congress. Just hold him in countable and impeach him. Yeah. Sure. Lots of things should happen. Have you seen these Democrats tree power like hot bookings dove? Off the rails in Texas. I don't mind I mean. The amount that you've been letting people heckle in a state where everyone has a gun is very clear one to one. First of all they are obeying my rules of heckling which is rule number one. Gotta be super confident. Rule number two. You've got to be super articulate all right? And if it works it works that guy's worked someone over here. I don't know it didn't work, and I'm glad it didn't. So keep it together. And that's okay. Stop. Don't go anywhere. Love it or leave it more on the way love it or leave. It is brought to you by Tommy John. All right, guys, close your eyes as long as you're not driving. Right. Travis wrote that right picture. Your current underwear joke drivers out would you be proud of your choice today if the person in front or behind you saw. Behind me. Depends who I guess. The answer is no that it's time to try Tommy Tommy John obsesses over every little detail by using performance fabrics that guarantee. No wedgies ever. Well, it's all capital letters that ever like Trump tweet. It's also just you know, they're right. Checks can't cash honestly. Because look I agree that you won't get a natural wedgie. But you could get a man made one. You know what I mean? True. 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Ted Cruz is one of the most disliked politicians in America. But the truth is Texas is big enough for two terrible senators. Anyway, originally the Muppets had three characters in the balcony to shout. Insults. Kermit? It was statler Waldorf and Cornyn, but due to budget cuts in the late nineteen seventies John Cornyn had to seek work. Elsewhere. And now John Cornyn your Senator is up for reelection. And it's time Texas faces it John Cornyn is Ted Cruz without the conviction and his policies are equally if not more destructive than my boy tad's, in fact, Cornyn policies are so awful. We don't think you'll be able to tell him and Ted Cruz apart in a game. We're calling corner cruise. Someone out there like to play the game. Hi, what's your name? I'm marissa. I'm you know. Misspell is. I'm an eighth grade. Math teacher teacher. I'm not in your class. So I'm going to go with Marissa. That's fine. Okay. For multiple honest wine. Okay. That's. That's right. All right. You earned it. It's thursday. It's thursday. You're good. I think Thursdays. Just you must be. I got it. Meriva? I'm going to read you some backs some are about Ted Cruz summer about John Cornyn your job in this lightning round game movie to tell us if I'm describing cruise or Cornyn. Are you ready? I hope so. I hope so. Okay. Do we have a little bit? Yeah. After the media reported a string of unrelated, violent attacks on judges, Senator openly speculated that they had it coming to liberal judicial activism. Not it was Cornyn. This Senator voted against federal aid package to help east coast recover from hurricane sandy then when hurricane Harvey thread, Texas and twenty seventeen he called for federal aid. Chris got it open secrets this Senator as one of the top recipients of money from the oil and gas industry Cornell both. Question. Sometimes the answers can be both the murder of journalist Jamal kashogi. This Senator said it would be a mistake to fracture that relationship with the Saudis Cornyn onto temple of two thousand seventeen this center like an incest porn post on Twitter. Then blamed. Just a week after the Planned Parenthood shooting in Colorado Springs. This senators said that no Christian that committed an act of terrorism in centuries. Chris, correct. This Senator endorsed Donald Trump just weeks after Trump called his wife, ugly. This Senator complains about wasteful government spending on programs like, Medicaid, even though he collects from three different states and local governments. In addition to his salary from the Senate Cronin. Got it this senators the letter to President Trump urging him to withdraw the United States from the Paris agreement the world's first universal legally binding planter both. This Senator has an eight plus rating from the NRA. This Senator defensive federal domestic surveillance program said none of your civil liberties matter much after you're dead Cornyn. Two people can't say the same sentence them. Both saying that seem sentiment x one Orissa when President Obama attempted to replace bring courts the late Antonin Scalia. The Senator refused to allow him and even threatened the nominees saying whoever gets nominated will bear some resemblance to opinion. Yes. This Senator wants released an advanced copy of speech where he said the following. It does not affect your daily life very much if your neighbor marries a box turtle. But that does not mean it is right now, you must raise your children in a world where that union of man at box turtle is on the same legal footing as man and wife. Is. Brisa you one. Give it up. Those eighth graders better better being the best behavior tomorrow because I have a feeling they're mad teacher. It's going to be a little on edge. Democrats hope to take back the Senate and twenty twenty corn and seat is a must win. And we came so close to flip cruises seat in twenty twenty thanks to the hard work of people like you. But America needs to get out there and work just as hard to unseat Senator Cornyn next year and elect his opponent. Whether it's air force veteran. Nj Hagar or whoever wins the primaries. Unless you Texans are cowards. Are you gonna let gauge you from Hollywood called Texans cowards? Then you better fix it. Win this race. Win this race. All right. We come back. We're playing other game. Don't go anywhere. More of love it or leave it coming up love it or leave. It is brought to you by squarespace with squares as you can turn your idea into new website Graham, you can squarespace does this by giving you beautiful templates created by world-class designers. I like to use a different voice right now. The ability to customize, look and feel settings products and more, but just a few clicks. 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Though at this point 'cause playing a cowboy is as much right of passage for conservative politicians as praising Ronald Reagan or taking a private jet trip with Jeffrey Epstein. If you don't shoot a machine gun in your campaign ad you might as well be antiga. In fact. In fact, so many conservative politicians pretend they are Cowboys. We don't think you'll be able to tell them apart from movie Cowboys in a game. We're calling save a horse ride a cowboy who is actually the son of an investment banker from Greenwich, Connecticut, the only cowboy boots because it's socially acceptable way for a man to wear heels that make two inches taller which struggles to put on anyway with soft soft Phillips Exeter ants. The panel will help by reading quotes, ideally account boy voice. But I leave it to them. One is going to be a conservative politician the other from a cowboy movie with someone out there to play the game. Hi, what's your name? I'm Ashley Ashley. And where he from Ashley originally from Florida, but I've been Houston for the last five years. I'm sorry. Don't apologize. Don't apologize there now trained it's what we do flirty. We apologize for our state. We have friends actually the panelists are going to read to quotes. Ideally in a cowboy voice, but that's up to them. One is directly me cowboy. Why wouldn't I? I'll do what I can't hear you to guess, which is okay. Are you ready? Mercedes is going to kick off question one. They liked the hit. And then they like to hide out. But we're going to smoke them out a gun is as good or as bad as the man using it, which is from a politician and. Cowboy movie it was that two sentences. It was sup-. That was two quotes was hit. And they like to hide out. But we're going to smoke them out. The other is a gun is as good or as bad as the man using it the first ones from a movie second ones from politician. Incorrect smoke them out comes from Connecticut's own George W Bush. The gun the gun, quote may sound like an NRA talking point. But it's from the movie Shane. Question. Number two here. We'll all divide the quotes time. We're going to adapt. As we go, quote, number one is a hell of a thing killing a man. Okay. Okay. To know our of life is wasted. That is spent in the saddle. The first ones from a movie in the Seguin's from politician. Correct. The killing AMAN quote is from unforgiven directed by. Clint Eastwood, Gene Hackman recommend it. Really subverts the cowboy tropes. Totally totally. The other is noted cow by Winston Churchill. Clamper. So maybe maybe Ashley. Question three. And he's going to take us through both quotes. I'm going to do my best. Sam elliot. Never Paula Draz. Mister, it's a sign of weakness. That's your first option in gimme a horse and a gun and an open plain weaken conquer the world. That was great. It was tastic. I gotta say I surprised myself with how really good that was good. I did not expect the base it helps to picture a specific cowboy and yet Sam Elliott's parts always go to Sam Elliott man, ever to Emily Heller. Are you are you proposing an all female reboot of Sam, Elliot? Stop stalling Ashley. Excuse me. I was waiting for my turn to talk you, Leo. It's okay we're birthday twins. So. The question. Photo. Fred, no, do you want to do them again? Okay. Never apologize. Mr. sign of weakness or give me a horse a gun and open plane, and we can conquer the world which was said by conservative politician, the second one that is correct. The apology comes from. She wore a yellow ribbon. The quote about conquering. The world comes from noted Princeton alum Ted Cruz. So corny bonus question Ashleigh, which conservative politician said the following in nineteen Eighty-four I could have bought an NFL team including the Dallas Cowboys. I feel sorry for the poor guy is going to buy the Cowboys. It's a no win situation for him Trump. That is correct. A few years later. Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys for a little over one hundred million dollars. Today is team is worth four billion dollars. One thing you have to admit Trump is an incredible businessman. Actually you've won the game. And the Paris you give card. Thank you playing and thank you to our panelists for reading those incredibly. Well, the livered quotes when we come back the rent wheel. Don't go anywhere. Love it or leave it more on the way love it or lead. It is brought to you by on running or my where my on running shoes this morning. I have just been see you you didn't. And I don't know what's going on. But I I think they might be carbon monoxide in my house. I am sleeping through everything. I'm waking hours after I was supposed to eleven hours last night. What's going on rate? I gotta get back to the gym. I eat like somebody's going to the gym. I'm gonna go tonight. I had pizza and pasta for dinner. Normal day, John if any take out the other day, no regrets. Good. 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You know, we spend the wheel and wherever lands we rant about the topic this week on the wheel we have Brady bunch anti vaccine. The lack of critical thinking in society game of thrones, sonic, the hedgehog. Something you call Texas toast. Marvels aging technology a bus driver who was given probation and Democrats, but spin the wheel. Critical thinking area take us away. Today were is kind of scary because you have so much access to information. And when you have that much access to information, and you don't have a foundation to filter the information that you're receiving all of it can kind of look the same. And that's why you have like the rise of flatter Thor's. Like, that's the thing. You have Trump. Right easels. Come a MAC. Yeah. So vaccines like you have a lot of these things that is easily debunk -able? If you spend ten to fifty minutes looking at the literature. Right. But you don't even have the faculty to and that science has brought you to the point where you can complain about the sheet on your smartphone as. I was there was a good way to remedy the situation. But just that just isn't. So just try to find a smartest person then procreate. So that. Odds of you have in a smarter kid. Listen that is one of the few ways out of this thing. We need some smart people to make some more smart people because when idiot Crecy came out it was like. It's a pretty good exaggeration. And then it was like, oh, no, it's it's a documentary. That is what happened. What is what is the president that movie? Camacho has happened. It is real and we are watering plants with Rondo, and we are going to. So we w to figure this out. What's been it? Again. People were very excited about a rant about game of thrones. I want to talk about how emotional it was. I mean this past Sunday. I was literally on the edge of my seat and hold on one second. I'm not going to try to spoil it either those listening. We about to discuss an episode of game of thrones. If you plan to watch it without being spoiled now is a good time jump thirty. See what you hear jump thirty again. Right. I it is. I'm gonna watch the clock. You know, what we're gonna spend exactly one minute with spoiler stuff. If you don't wanna hear to the audience. What are you doing? Three two one one minute starts. Now. I am so surprised that the war was over in one episode. I was annoyed frustrated, and I literally was screaming through my friends apartment. And to see that. It was aria just like it was everything. Everything is read. I just read that they're trying to take away Arias credit by saying that John was distracting the dragon, and I was not cool with patriarchy at its best. But that was such an emotional episode now, I'm like, okay. We're about to go fight spicy what's going to happen because I ninety minutes are they going to do that again ninety minutes of that hope? So that my heart was racing. I was like why isn't we legal because this is? It is. Eagle where we watch it. And I will only say this the minute is up right now. I said this upon save America. I'll say here a man yelled at a dragon. But a woman had the policies we needed the critical moment. You know? In about no spoilers say some that has to be said, though, not about not about that. I don't complain about entertainment. I didn't I don't know how to make movies. But did lighten was pretty shitty episode. Maybe we could get them like with the same Sinek crush that. We push them to turn contrast below. My TV was fucking. You must have a great TV. Nagional footballing. Good TV. I do get it a coffee. That's why I was mad. I was is my shift. We're gonna on this day right now. I was I was mad 'cause you released you released security footage of you watching it, and it looked like a dark room. It was we had we had the lights off. We had candles lit. We had like game with rose thou- food. We did it up. We did our thing the witch lady she was like the best part of that. Because she brightened up the entire scene who don't want to spoil it. What's threat Endre? Yes. And heard. So never be able to recruit my love. Well, sure when she stops trying to win the game of thrones that will like her again. So see, more, humid. She was. All this getting it at it out. Much of it in his humanly possible because it's very fun. That's been it again. Brady bunch anti-venom are suggested by Emily. All right. So antibac- Sers have been posting memes of the Brady bunch from the episode. When all of the kids got measles to claim that measles is not a big deal, which is infuriating for a number of reasons. First of all the reason why measles didn't seem like a big deal. When the Brady bunch was on is because they still had polio. But. Second of all you need to update your sources are these same people like when people come out on our like football gives you traumatic brain injuries or they like, I don't know. I saw that episode where Marcia got hit in the nose with one. She seemed fines. Right here. Yen. You got. Game. So vaccinate your kids if you are an adult, and you didn't get vaccinated. You can go vaccinated. I did it three years ago because I my parents are hippies and they just did it. Remember if they had done it or not and my pediatrician is dead. So of measles. So even if you've been vaccinated before if you're not sure you can just go get it again. It doesn't hurt you. I mean it fucking hurts a little bit. But like it doesn't like cancel itself out so go get vaccinated. Don't make means of the Brady bunch just because people who consume memes weren't around for the Brady bunch anyway. Right. The fonts that they used on those memes. We're not good fawns. I think that's true. There was a story about someone in California who went to see vendors and game with the measles. And then exposed all these people at midnight showing from twelve to three I am to the measles, which I can only imagine was more risky because the movie was so long. I just feel like it's the people who are making memes like this and the people who I made the Brady bunch episode where they got measles, and it was fun because they didn't have to go to school. I'm just saying just because the measles doesn't seem like a big deal to you all that means is that you're lucky that you're not one of the people who is dying from it. So listen to scientists vaccinate your kids like in that up. They all get the measles. They say home, and it's just like a fun. Rob about like, women better doctors or men it's very weird that episode turns into that. But the shit that they did on that show is not realistic. Like, they went to a ghost town and got locked in a cell by some guy named Zachariah who was a or who was a frayed. They were going to steal his gold, and they had to go on a rescue in the Grand Canyon. And it was a three episode arc. I'm just saying. They're not good at parenting. That's been it again. It has landed on sonic, the hedgehog. I'm glad to did. Because it's a glimmer of hope a grim time. I'll tell you why in the sonic, the hedgehog trailer, we meet sonic, the hedgehog. Now, I had a second. Genesis. It was aimed at me. I love that. Little rascal. Well, we could spin around collect rings seem in a pinball machine. I like going underwater I liked finding little bubbles of air debris to maintain my survival underwater. I liked facing off against doctor robotic in a giant casino thing. It was cool. So I'm somebody. I assume this movie is aimed at thirty six year olds who don't act like it. And then I see sonic the hedgehog and he's gained some kind of lightning ability. I don't get that. I'm trying to make sense of it. Did I forget was the spinning lightning related, then it turns out in the movie in the trailer. He sets off some kind of an EMP that shuts out the lights to have the western seaboard. And then some very smart registers did the mouth and figure out how many children on life support died because of it. Go check that out. It's. Maybe we should catch them and kill him. Maybe Jim Carrey's the hero. But still. The bigger problem is crazy. Human teeth weird is everybody uncomfortable. Now normally that would be where the story ends a misfire from our friends at Sega. However, ten night moments before the beginning of this very taping. It was announced that they're going to read the sign sonic. We're never heard before. I did not know that Twitter hates trailer enough, they'll make different movie that is power. We should bucking. We know that collectively Twitter maybe a cesspool of hate and misogyny in power. Some of the worst abusers in our culture from the white supremacists. In our basements to the president's in our White House. But if we speak with one voice, we could get a studio to reanimate, sonic. So that he's cool and not weird. And I want to see how far we can take this. All right because if we can change the way sonic looks at a movie that was already scheduled to be released and look pretty good done. And I bet Sonics in a lot of scenes in sonic. So they can just get away with a couple of days reshoot s-. We can change the world. And until then I'm gonna just eat my way across the state of fucking, Texas. I wanna thank our tastic overseas area. Emily. University of all coming out. People always great night.

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"Uh-huh. From pacifica. This is democracy. Now, an economic miracle is taking place in the United States. And the only thing that can stop. It are foolish wars politics or ridiculous partisan investigations. -cation? In the state of the union address, President Trump attacks Democrats on the Mueller investigation, even as he calls for bipartisan unity. Trump also threatened new nuclear arms race in vowed to build a wall along the southern border. This is a moral issue. Kalala state of our southern border is a threat to the safety security and financial well being of all American. In US history. Trump did not mention the longest government shutdown in US history, which even delayed his speech by a week. But former gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams did she made history as the first African American woman to give the democratic response, the shutdown was a stunt engineered by the president of the United States one that defied every Tenet of fairness and abandoned not just our people, but our values. Will air highlights from the speeches of President Trump and Stacey Abrams, plus speak to democratic congresswoman Ilhan Omar of Minnesota. She recently became one of the first to lissome congresswoman a Somali American refugee sheet also became the first member of congress to where hejab will also be joined by Anna Maria are Chila who protested the confirmation of supreme court Justice Brett Cavanaugh, she attended the state of the union address as a guest of congresswoman, Alexandra Cossio Cortez all that and more coming up. Welcome to democracy now democracy now dot org. The war and peace report. I mean, he Goodman, President Trump deliver the state of the union address from the house chamber Tuesday night in his speech repeated his calls for a border wall and referred to a quote, tremendous onslaught unquote of migrants allegedly trying to get into the country in the past most of the people in this room voted for a wall, but the proper wall never got built. I will get it built. However, did not declare a national emergency over the border wall. As some had speculated he addressed the situation in Venezuela where the US has been accused of orchestrating the overthrow of the sitting President Nicolas Maduro two weeks ago, the United States officially recognized the legitimate government of inas Waila and its new president. In his address that lasted nearly an hour and a half. President Trump also warned Democrats against what he turned ridiculous partisan investigations, which he said could hinder American prosperity and attacked abortion protections recently passed in New York and proposed in Virginia. Trump said he'll call for a federal ban unquote, late term abortions. Former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, Dillard delivered the democratic response Abrahams slam the recent government shutdown and spoke out against voter suppression. She also addressed gun control climate, change and immigration reform. We know bipartisanship could craft the twenty first century immigration plan, but this administration chooses to cage children and tear families apart compassionate treatment. At the border is not the same as open borders in Virginia. The president of eastern Virginia medical school responded to the ongoing. Scandal around the nineteen Eighty-four yearbook photo, which reportedly shows democratic governor Ralph north them either in black face or klu Klux Klan outfit, or at least a peered on his Facebook on his yearbook page, we're home and apologize for the pain inflicted by racist yearbook photos over the years and announced the school would investigate how such photos made it into the yearbook for decades govern governor north them. Who so far has resisted mounting calls to resign. Initially apologize for the photo. But the next day walked back. His statements at a news conference claiming neither of the men in the photo was him. Although he did admit to using black face on another occasion. The same year dressing. Michael Jackson, north MS reportedly hiring a private investigator to look into the photos. Pope Francis acknowledged for the first time that priests and bishops are guilty of sexually abusing nuns. They don't mistreatment of women is a problem. I would dare to say that humanity has not yet. Matured women are second class citizens and it starts from their. No, it is a cultural problem. Hope Francis has called a summit later this month on the ongoing sexual abuse crisis in the Catholic church an anti nuclear activists has accused former Costa Rican president and Nobel peace prize laureate, Oscar r s hunches of sexual abuse Alexandra are Savan herald psychiatrist and nuclear disarmament advocate who frequently worked with audience said he approached her from behind fondled her and forcefully digitally, penetrated her while at his home in two thousand fourteen are Sofala to criminal complaint Monday against audience. The death toll from shipwreck off the coast of Bahamas over the weekend has risen to twenty nine. Search and rescue teams continue to look for bodies. The ship was carrying Haitian migrants. Eighteen survivors of the shipwreck have been rescued in Afghanistan. Taliban fighters killed nearly fifty people in series of attacks in the north of the country, Tuesday, the largest death-toll came into raid on an army base and conducive province where at least twenty-six soldiers and police officers were killed the attacks. Come the week after US Taliban officials agree to a framework for a peace deal enough ghanistan during his state of the union, Trump touted US involvement in the peace negotiations with the Taliban. A new report by CNN finds Saudi Arabia gave US made weapons to kite linked fighters and other militant factions in Yemen in violation of a US Saudi arms deal. Some arms may have also made their way into the hands of Iranian and back Luthier rebels. Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates are using the weapons to buy the loyalties of various militias are tribes and gain influence in Yemen's political. Landscape. According to the CNN report, a US defense official confirmed to CNN there's an ongoing investigation into the matter. General Joseph voter the head of the US central. Command told the Senate Armed Services committee, Tuesday, he's not he was not told about Trump's withdrawal of US troops from Syria before Trump made his public announcement in December Patel also told the committee that quote, the fight against ISIS is not over a federal judge dismissed a lawsuit against Stephen saliva. The American studies association are ASA and other defendants who are sued after endorsing boycott divestment and sanctions or beady s movement. Professor saliva joined the board of ASA two years after the organization passed a boycott resolution, but was still named as a defendant the center for constitutional rights, which represented saliva said. In a statement these desperate lawsuits brought to silence advocates of Palestinian. Estonian rights are not only losers hoping to grow the movement by making even clearer who's on the wrong side of history. And who is the aggressor who is unreasonable and who wants to silence debate, unquote. The lawsuit is not the first time saliva has been targeted in a case related to Israel and Palestine in two thousand fourteen the university of Illinois or banish champagne withdrew a job offer for a tenured position for saliva after he posted tweets critical of the two thousand fourteen Israeli assault on Gaza. Meanwhile, on Capitol Hill senators passed a Bill that included the controversial antibeach provisions aimed at preventing position to the Isreaeli government by allowing state and local governments to sanction US companies boycotting Israel, the Bill also includes an amendment posing an immediate withdrawal of troops from Syria. Senators held a confirmation hearing Tuesday for Naomi row, President Trump's nominee. Replace Precourt Justice spread Cavanaugh on the DC circuit court of appeals, Tuesday, California, Senator Harris asked Rao about article she wrote while in college in the mid nineties, including a piece in which she blamed women for putting themselves at risk for sexual assault by drinking too much rouse said she regrets pass views on sexual assault. This is Senator Harris questioning row. You said quote women should take certain steps to avoid becoming a victim. What steps do you have in mind that women should take to avoid becoming a victim of sexual assault. Senator it's just sort of common sense idea about for instance, excessive drinking, you know, that was advice that was given to me by my mother. That's one step. You believe women should take to avoid becoming a victim of sexual. It is just a way to make it less likely. Now me row who has never tried a case in court also wrote in past articles that affirmative action is the quote anointed dragon of liberal excess unquote and welfare was quote for the indigent and lazy unquote and called LGBT issues trendy political movement, a former coke industries officials overseeing research in the Environmental Protection Agency that'll inform the regulation of certain toxic chemicals found in drinking water causing some to raise concerns over possible. Conflict of interest. David Dunlop was hired to the EPA in October. And did not require Senate confirmation for his position regulations on the toxic chemicals will determine whether companies that produce them such as coke industries can be held liable for cleanup costs the intercepts reporting. Top aide to house speaker Nancy Pelosi told health insurance executives from Blue Cross Blue shield that democratic leadership had major objections to Medicare for all. And we continue to try to block single payer healthcare. In December presentation Pelosi advisor Wendo premise said that strengthening the Affordable Care Act and lowering drug prices were instead the priorities for the party polls have found that a majority of American support the idea of Medicare for all many high profile democratic lawmakers also come out in favor of single payer healthcare, including twenty twenty presidential hopeful senators, comma, Harris, Cory Booker care Kerstin, Jill. Brand Elizabeth Warren and congressman tolsey Gabbard. A federal judge approved a plan for Puerto Rico to restructure a portion of its debt Monday, which would require Puerto Rico to pay thirty two billion dollars over forty years. Critics say the deal will allow volts your funds to make huge profits by buying up those debts. Several of those volts are funds include public employees, pension funds and the investment funds of Harvard. Princeton and yell judge. Laura Taylor Swain who held a hearing on the proposed deal last month echoed critics concerns about Puerto Rico's ability to make the payments and the likely affects on public services. However, she said in her decision, quote, the court is not free to impose its own view of what the optimal resolution of the dispute could have been will have more on Puerto Rico later in the broadcast in Alabama. The attorney general cleared the officer who shot and killed twenty one year old. African American EJ Bradford junior at Birmingham area mall on Thanksgiving Day after responding to an unrelated shooting, the ACO you of Alabama said in a statement, the characterization of EJ Bradford is a threat that needed eliminating reveals how little regard the attorney general has for the life of the splash man, we won't stay quiet while law enforcement continues to inflict lethal violence against black people and attempt to justify it. They said Bradford's family say they will sue in New York City, staff members and current and former prisoners Brooklyn's metropolitan detention center, testified Tuesday that the heat at the detention facility started to fail as early as mid January. The hearing came following reports that quickly spread over social media during the weekend that over sixteen hundred prisoners were being held without heat hot meals or electricity, including during last week's polar vortex. After the hearing judge on Lisa Torres. Visited the MDC herself to inspect conditions at the jail. You can go to democracy now dot org for our two reports at MDC and celebrities and fans are sending messages of support to Grammy nominated rapper Twenty-one savage who was detained by agents from immigration and customs enforcement on Sunday. I says British born shy of Abraham Joseph better known by stage. Name Twenty-one savage overstayed his visa after coming to the US at the age of twelve and two thousand five a free Twenty-one savage petition created by black lives matter. Co-founder Patrisse Cullors has so far gathered over two hundred thousand signatures lawyers for the rapper say he's being wrongfully detained in that. His new these application is currently pending, and those are some of the headlines, this is democracy. Now democracy now dot or the Warren peace report, I made me Goodman than solace. Welcome to all of our viewers and listeners across the country and around the world. In this state of the union address on Tuesday night, President Trump called for bipartisan unity, while he attacked Democrats and the Robert Muller investigation. Economic miracle is taking place in the United States. And the only thing that can stop. It are foolish wars politics or ridiculous partisan investigations. There is going to be peace and legislation. There cannot be war and investigation. It just doesn't work that way, the president spent much of his speech focused on the southern border repeated his vow to build a border wall as we speak large organized caravans are on the March to the United States. We have just heard that Mexican cities in order to remove the illegal immigrants from their communities are getting trucks and buses to bring them to our country in areas where there is little border protection. I have ordered another three thousand seven hundred fifty troops to our southern border to prepare for this tremendous onslaught. This is a moral issue to lawless state of our southern border is a threat to the safety security and financial well being of all America on the international front. President Trump announced plans to hold another summit with North Korean leader, Kim Jong on Vietnam. This is democracy. Now democracy now dot org. When we come back will be speaking with congress member ill hun, Omar stay with us. Mendocino very Ganic seat in this. Conversation that search. Safety. What is? Followed a move. Shoes. Ex school want to join the troops. You can't in my country. You brought the Sega gave him money and sort of data so tasted. Tomato tomato. Whatever students sport in on thinking about. Fine. Fi white for Nick, I'm an alien by rebel Diaz. This is democracy. Now democracy now dot org. The warrant piece report made me Goodman with Juan Gonzalez says we continue to look at President Trump state of the union address on the international front. He announced plans to hold another summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un in Vietnam, beginning February twenty seventh. He also defended his decision to pull out of the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty a landmark nuclear arms deal with Russia. Trump went on to threaten a new nuclear arms race, perhaps we can negotiate a different agreement ebbing, China and others or perhaps we can't in which case we will outspend and out innovate all of theirs by far in other international news, President Trump warned against endless wars in the Middle East while boasting about recent US. Backed efforts to topple diminish wait and government on the domestic front. He criticized the state of New York for passing a law code fine, women's right to an abortion to defend the dignity of every person, I'm asking congress to pass legislation to prohibit the late term abortion of children. New York governor Anju Cuomo responded on Twitter by writing quote, breaking real Donald Trump. Just proposed rolling back row. The law of our nation for forty six years of firmed, and reaffirmed by numerous supreme court's. Never New York has a message to those who spread lies and fear to control women's reproductive health. Not gonna happen. Not now not ever. Cuomo tweeted, Trump did not mention the longest government shutdown and US history, which even delayed his speech by a week. But former Georgia gubernatorial candidate state Stacey Abrams did she made history. As the first African American woman to give the democratic response just a few weeks ago, I joined volunteers to distribute meals to furloughed federal workers, they waited in line for bucks of food and the sliver of hope since they had received paychecks in weeks. Making livelihood of our federal workers. Upon for political games is a disgrace, the shutdown was a stunt engineered by the president of the United States. One that defied every tenant of fairness and abandoned not just our people, but our values we're joined right now by another history-making woman Democratic Congress member Ilhan, Omar of Minnesota, she's the first Ssemaala American elected to the US house of representatives one of two Muslim women elected to congress and the I had job wearing congress member. She is similarly American refugee, we welcome you to democracy now and want to start off by asking you as you sat there wearing red white and blue last night your job blue. What was your response to President Trump's state of the union address? Thank you Amy for for having me. It was. A Ruthie bizarre state of the union address that kind of went along with the bizarrely scripted house of cards seen that we just recently witnessed with the longest shutdown of our nation's history of thirty five days. You know, I expected there to be presidential address. I expected there to be an acknowledgement of the workers that he just used as a political football. I expected there to be some imagination plan really felt like a strean address. And I was taken aback by the lack of planning vision and interest really went into bringing a unified message. Also, I would say for for this. This particular address. There seemed to be lots of hypocrisies. You know, he talked about welcoming legal immigration as much as possible. But we know that he limited the number of refugees that could enter this country one of my guests. This was a legal immigrant from Liberia who has a DVD status that he signed. To end in in March. He talked about ending endless wars in the Middle East. While he seemed to be excited about showing our military might he talked about working with us in in regards to reducing pharmaceutical prices, you know, getting an infrastructure Bill while at the same time. I he he talked about the Democrats and the constitutionally called for check and balance that we have in in continuing the investigation to his administration. So it just did not feel very well thought out. It didn't feel like you know, that that this was the address. That the people were waiting for. And I would say my sister Stacy and Bruni delivered more of state of the union address than the occupant of the White House. I wanted to ask you congress member. There were many obviously, many of the democratic women were wearing white into striking visual at one point. The president remarked about the progress of women in in the workforce in America and all of the of the democratic women stood up and cheered at exceed to observe him a little bit. I'm wondering if you could comment on the impact of that of the solidarity among especially all the new women like yourself when members of congress. I think when he made that point. I don't think he was clued in to the fact that he was celebrating this. This this wave of women who have now been elected to congress. So we took that opportunity to release. Celebrate ourselves. Most of us are in congress, also replacing male members. So the the fact that congress now looks more Representative was one that we wanted to celebrate. And I don't know if he actually understood that let let's cover that clip. This is President Trump talking about what one just described the women in congress. All Americans can be proud. That we have more women in the workforce than ever before. Exactly one century after congress passed the constitutional amendment giving women the right to vote. We also have more women serving in congress than at any time before. Right. Great. And congratulations. That's great. We also wanted to get your response. Congress member Omar to to what's happening in Venezuela two weeks ago. You tweeted a US-backed coup in Venezuela's, not a solution to the dire issues they face Trump's efforts to install a far right opposition will only incite violence and further destabilize the region, we must support Mexico or a Kuun the Vatican's efforts to facilitate a peaceful dialogue. Let's go to President Trump's comments on Venezuela. The legitimate government event is Walea and it's new press. We stand with the Venezuelan people and their noble quest for freedom, and we condemn the brutality of the Madero regime who socialist policies have turned that nation from being the wealthiest in South America into a state of abject, poverty, and despair. The United States. We are alarmed by the new calls to adopt socialism in our country. America was founded on liberty and independence and not government coercion, domination and control. We are born free. Stay. Tonight, we renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country. That's President Trump speaking at his state of the union address, the camera focusing in on Bernie Sanders, as he spoke congress member Ilhan, Omar if you could respond on both of those issues Venezuelan socialism, the president seems to be divorced from from reality. We saw that when he made the comment in celebrating the the the wave of new members of congress who are women. He didn't seem to recognize that most of us got elected in SIS thing his disastrous policies and doing our country into the right direction. He also seems to be divorced from reality. When we're talking about the situation that's unfolding. In venezuela. You know, we understand that there is a crisis, and we believe in furthering democracy. But it is really important that we cautioned ourselves from getting involved and further furthering suffering in in in countries like Venezuela when he talks about the humanitarian crisis when he talks about the need for for the people of Venezuela have self determination. I think back to what's happening in Saudi Arabia. More in Yemen. The United States is assisting that is the worst humanitarian crisis over eight hundred thousand people have faced starvation. And so when we see this president make remarks it really becomes. Easily visible to to see how divorced he truly is from from reality. I I remember that most of us were were laughing when he made the comments around socialism what we advocate for what Bernie myself. Alexandria rashida. What we advocate for is in America that is prosperous and America that that makes sure that everybody has access to jobs. Everybody has access to housing. Everybody has access to healthcare that we don't have an America where people are dying because they can't afford insulin. That we don't have an America where people are dying because they don't have a home and they're freezing outside and an America where we deal with are homeless crisis crises. And so when when I hear him speak. There is. There's a reality that he seems to be clearly, divorced. I don't know if he knows how popular Medicare for all is. I don't know he understands how popular freeing students from the shackles of debt is. I don't know understands how it is for us to to critically address climate climate change. So. Clearly, clearly, we he lacks leadership, and it's going to be really important for the next year for us to to find some someone who can lead our nation into prosperity. And who is not going to be a liar in chief in the White House. You'll hear no mar do you consider yourself, a democratic socialist? I consider myself a democrat. Congresswoman I'd like to ask you about another portion of the president's speech in his address, criticized Iran, call in the country, quote, the world's leading state sponsor of terror. This is what he said. Administration has acted decisively to confront the world's leading state sponsor of terror the radical regime in Iran. It is a radical GM. They do bad bad things to ensure this corrupt. Dictatorship never acquires nuclear weapons, I withdrew the United States from the disastrous Iran nuclear deal. We put in place the toughest sanctions ever imposed by us on a country. We will not avert our eyes from a regime that chance death to America and threatens genocide against the Jewish people. That was President Trump less night. Europe response. Not only to the confrontational. Extremely confrontational attitude of the of the United States administration of President Trump via Iran, and and of course, most of the other European countries have participated in in the Goshi ations of the accords with Iran. Don't agree with the United States. Again, another example of how he's clearly divorced from reality. This is the president who has Cousy up to Saudi Arabia to make a statement like that with the street face. Really showed how this allusion he is with with reality. And I think, you know, the the kind of hypocrisy that goes with saying that we can't continue to fight and this wars, but he stands there. And also speaks of. Aggressions that that he wants to be part of in in again that part of the world. To me just shows how this president is a liar in chief. How this president is really rooted in any reality. How this president can no longer lead this this country and the work that we need to do to make sure that we have a leader that understands that there's a difference between diplomacy and there's a difference between starting or eating wars. Let me ask you about Trump's applauding the decision his own to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. This is what he said. One of the most complex set of challenges we face and have for many years is in the Middle East. Our approach is based on principle. Realism not discredited theories that have failed for decades to yield progress. For this reason. My administration recognized the true capital of Israel and proudly opened the American embassy into. Member Omar I wanted to get your response to that. And also just before the state of the union address yesterday senators passed a Bill that included the controversial anti provisions aimed at preventing opposition to the Isreaeli government here in the United States by allowing state and local governments to sanction US companies who boycott Israel. The Bill also includes an amendment opposing an immediate withdrawal of troops from Syria. If you could respond to all of these things. The move of the embassy was one that was Whiteley, criticized. It's not. I think a move that lends itself to creating positive environment peaceful environment in in that region. I have you know, for for a long time spoken about the the kind of policies that we need to have in that part of the region. What it means for for there to be peace, and how we can't divorce Justice from peace, and it's going to be really important that that we have people not only in congress. But in the White House who truly understand that. And the Bill that passed was one that is similar to one that I voted against in the Minnesota house. It's one that has been making the rounds around the country in in in different state houses, it's one that that exists is really to drive a wedge between Democrats and score political points for for Republicans. And I and I just urge my colleagues to to not not take the bait. It's really important for us to focus on protecting the constitutional rights of people and making sure that there there is an opportunity for people in this country to fully utilize their first amendment. I also wanted to ask you about the interceptor port that at top aide to house speaker Nancy Pelosi told health insurance executives from Blue Cross Blue shield that democratic leadership had major objections to Medicare for all we continue to try to block single payer healthcare. And December presentation Pelosi advisor Wendo Preakness said strengthening the Affordable Care Act lowering drug prices were instead the priorities for the party. Can you respond to this congress member? We have a that the Bill will have a hearing. So I'm looking forward to finally having that that scheduled. I know that congresswoman Chhaya ball has been working really hard and there as the whip for the congressional progressive caucus. I look forward to not only having conversations with our caucus members. But with democratic caucus, and maybe even getting some some Republicans on board. This. This is this is a policy that is supported by the majority of Americans. I know that when we are talking about policies like that. We can't just talk about them as as. Pipe partisan policy here in congress. But we have to look at it as pipe partisan issue with the American people, and it's in the interest of all members of congress to. Legislate on behalf of the people who elected. Congress member I'd like to ask you about the portion of the president's speech that he spent the most time on which is on the issue of immigration and the wall that he insists needs to be built. Although he's changing the definition of the wall of the concept of the wall with every day. I wanted to ask you about his continued urging that congress must pass legislation that includes money for his wall. If you could respond. For that. Really? That part of the speech was. Very difficult to be present for you know, I'm someone who fully understands. The struggles that people go through the get here to look for an opportunity in the United States. There's there's a there's a foam famous poem that says no one leaves for the mouth of the shark unless them off the shark is safer than home. And to have a president that continues to demonize immigrants and to speak of humans as aliens. And to to not recognize that seeking Silom isn't illegal is really stating. I brought a recipient of the which is. Delayed enforced departure from Liberia who arrived in this country in two thousand because of the civil war that was happening in in in Liberia, and for it's it's someone I fully connect with I left my home country of Somalia because of the civil war. I'm the few fortunate ones who come here with a refugee status who Matic -ly have a permanent status in this country. Hers was a temporary one and because of our immigration system. She is now living with with the challenges of not being able to permanently start a life here for eighteen years. She's lived through this broken immigration system. Trying her best to go to school to work to become a taxpayer to contribute to her society to become a member of her church to give back in every way that she can she left to you old son that she has seen and for over a decade. She has been applying for permanent status. Her brother who is a citizen of the United States has has filed Capers for her. But because the system is so broken people don't have the path to permanency. And so what we wanted to hear from the president was a plan a plan on how we give people a piece of mine permanent status to be here to continue their lives being in this country for eighteen years for twenty for thirty years means that, you know, longer have a home elsewhere. This is home. This is where your free. Are this is where the members of your church, the members of your mask, the members of synagogue, whatever the case may be this is home. And so for for the president not to recognize that that these are humans are humans behind the policies that we debate is is really dangerous because he continues to fan the flames of hate, and he continues to use the issues around immigration as as one that is and one that continues to instill fear in in in in our communities. Congressman very thank you for being with us for today's response to the state of the union address congressman member Omar represents the fifth congressional district in Minnesota. I Mali American elected to the US house representatives one of two Muslim women first elected to the house of representatives and the first job wearing member. Of the house of representatives says democracy. Now, we come back, we speak with an activist who is invited to the state of the union address by New York. Congress member Alexandra Cossio Cortez. Stay with us. Stop. The back opening thanks to create living. Down with your. So what kids Qassim way we came? From the calli what? Department of beasts guns by crags budget cuts over kickbacks. President trump. Generational trauma. Potty. With. You do. It was cute. Lima bed on. Seventeen. Here onto micro now in the democracy now studios, you can see the whole interview with them at proce-. Now, I made me Goodman with one gun solace. We continue to gust person and Trump state of the union, we're joined by Keila co executive director of the center for popular democracy. She attended the address as a guest of New York congresswoman Alexandria, oh Cossio in September Chila made headlines when Sheila with another woman Maria Gallagher, confronted Republican Senator Jeff flake of Arizona in an elevator after him nounce to support of judge Brett Kavanagh's nomination confirmation to the supreme court shortly after the confrontation Senator flake called for a delay of the Senate vote pending limited FBI investigation una Mary are chill. How did they how did it feel to be in the chamber in house of representatives? What many were calling Pelosi's house? To hear President Trump. And they're of course, where the supreme court Justice is not all of them Justice Alito wasn't there. Justice thomas. Wasn't there? Justice Ruth, Bader Ginsburg, wasn't there. Justice Sonia to my or wasn't there? But the man you were protesting Justice Cavanaugh was along with chief Justice Roberts, Gorsuch and Elena Kagan. Good morning out. It was really a night of contrast. It was both incredible. To see the see of white of women wearing white representing both the history of our country. The history of women who have struggled to win the right to vote and to win the right to represent all of us. And and who are actually the ones that are carrying the vision of a new country a country that is possible where all of us can live with dignity like what Representative Omar just talked about. And on the other hand. There was. Cavanaugh sitting there representing the failure of democracy in ability of politicians, especially men in power to really allow themselves to listen to the stories of the women. They represent to allow themselves to govern by listening to imagine that their role is actually to bring the voices of the people they represent maybe people whose lives, they don't who's live experiences. They don't share and but who whose aspirations they can actually try to understand. So I I saw the presence of Justice Cavanaugh have reminder of how much we how much work we have to do to make sure that these the that our democracy really works for us. But I was also sitting there fewing so much gratitude for the wave of women for the boldness of the leadership of the new especially venue freshman class. That includes Representative Omar my own. Congresswoman Alexander Cortez Rashida to leave. And so many other women who are really speaking to these idea that we can be a country that includes all of us that we actually have a future that includes all of us in the future that like recognizes the abundance of these country and says in these abundance, we should be able to have healthcare. We should all be able to have dignified jobs. We should all be able to have time to rest time for our families planet that where we have clean air and water. So I feel I felt moved by by. I was very. Aware of how mementos advising how much the moment was pregnant and some ways with pas ability. And then Trump was Trump. He was still scapegoating immigrants. He was still telling lies. He was still. Speaking from both sides of his mouth both talking about you. And immediately after that saying, well, we can only be unified. If you don't investigate me. So. I was. Just very aware of how much of a countries we have in these moment, if you'd be a brief response to his his claim once again that the country is being invaded by caravans of migrants and his call for more troops his direction to have more troops sent to the border. President Trump has been using emigrants Cape goad from the beginning of his campaign from day one. It is a playbook that has worked for him. Because he knows that in the psyche of this country, you can appeal to fear and to a sense of lack of safety to justify the most horrible policies. Whether was slavery Jim crow and now his anti-immigrant policies. There is a through line, and there has always the use of the threat of criminal behavior. And especially the use of the threat of. Danger to the women has been has has been. Central to kind of racist policy making and these country, and he's appealing to that. I was not at all surprised that he that he spent so much time talking about the caravan again spewing lies when in reality there is in fact a crisis. There's a crisis that he has created. There's a crisis of refugees that are coming to our ports of entry, which is exactly what refugees are supposed to do. It's exactly the legal way, and they are being turned around and sent back into violence and death. There's a crisis because families are being separated and thousands of children are in cages and thousands of parents are looking for them without knowing how to find them and reconnect with them. There's a crisis because people who have been in these countries for decades. People with TPS people with other immigration status is that Trump has has put in danger and has ended as intially are now having to imagine. Having to confront the possibility that they went on at sense back to a country that is no longer their home. And so there is a real crisis. Even the latest news is believed Faouzi more the government is emitting children. They don't even know where they are that they separated. Finally, we just have twenty seconds. But both you and congress member custody Cortez, we're wearing pin showing jecklin. Cow McCain seven-year-old migrant girl who died while in US customs, seep cbp custody in New Mexico. Yes. Both of us were wearing the face of Jack clean on our hearts because we want to remind people of the danger of giving Donald Trump a single dollar for his wall, and for his anti emigrant policies every dollar that goes to is and border patrol is a dollar that will result in more deaths at the border that will result in more families separated it will result in more children in cages and more deportations. These not who we are. Chill. I want. Thank you for being with us whose foot in the door and the elevator door of Jeff flake when he was going to vote for Justice cavenaugh supreme court Justice led to her invitation to the house of representatives. And of course, our years of activism before Maria Chila co executive director of the center for popular democracy, as we end today's broadcast on the latest news one well federal judge approved a plan for the vehicle yesterday to restructure a portion of its debt, which would require Puerto Rico to pay thirty two billion dollars over forty years. Critics say the deal will allow vulture funds to make huge profits by buying up. Those debts several of those vulture funds include public employees, pension funds and investment funds of Harvard. Princeton and Yale Laura Taylor Swain who held a hearing on the proposed deal last month echoed critics concerns about Puerto Rico's ability to make the payments on the likely effects on. Public services, but she said in her decision the court is not free to impose its own view of what the optimal resolution to the dispute could have been on you've been following these developments closely. Explain the significance of this decision. Well, this is the first legally approved settlement of the Puerto Rico Puerto seventy four billion dollars and this only involves about seventeen billions, but it's the largest portion of the debt the co FINA or the dead back by sales tax vehicle. It's a terrible decision. Most most observers know for the people of though because even though it allows a haircut for these bondholders of about thirty two percent. The basically kicks the can down the road and extends the length of the new bonds will be issued for forty years, and then the senior bondholders which to big players and many of them heads funds will only have a reduction of their principle of about seven percent. Cents while the junior bondholders, which are basically investors small investors from Hickel have about half of their principal wiped out and the important thing to understand about this is who is benefiting. It's the vulture funds. Once again, there was a report by the committee for the abolition of illegitimate debt that analyze some of the debt holders, for instance, Bhopal group in Boston a hedge fund run by Seth Clark who that has nine hundred million dollars of this co FINA debt, that's got this settlement their big investors. Several big investors are the investment funds of Harvard Yale and Princeton. Then there's golden tree asset management, which has two billion dollars of this co FINA debt of four hundred million of which they acquired after hurricane muddy when Puerto Rico debt was you could get it for pennies on the dollar. And now they're going to make a huge killing. The fact they're getting ninety three cents on the dollar. For this for this co FINA debt, then there's Tilden park capital, which is run by Josh Birnbaum who used to be managing director, Goldman Sachs. They have nine hundred fifty million dollars co Fien that they're gonna make killing these last too. Many of them have investments from a public employee, pension funds and New York and Illinois, retirement funds, Texas, Los Angeles, County funds. These these the pension funds that are providing the money for the vulture of funds now that are reaping the benefits even Tonia wife who was President Obama's point man who developed and basically pushed through the promise. Bill crow has criticized this deal. He was he said in an article in Bloomberg news a couple of months ago. It will just be a question of time. If the Commonwealth is forced to default yet again or or or cartel pension payments of two more than three hundred and twenty. Five thousand workers. So it has unfortunately, judge Swain felt that legally she did not have the authority to override this. But it does mean that this this is to signal of where the rest of the settlement of the Puerto Rico debt is going is going toward the vulture funds. And the hedge funds are going to walk away with killings, and the people are going to be left once again with increased austerity, and again, explain what co- FINA means FINA is to sales tax authority that Puerto Rico created basically when it could not legally issue. More debt created a separate authority and siphoned off the sales taxes Puerto Rico to guarantee the debt bondholders, which is why what Hickel has perhaps the highest sales tax in the United States eleven and a half percent right now. Well, we will continue to follow this and this all happening after hurricane Maria, right? Using the money that the federal government is giving to put Higl for reconstruction to help pay portion of this on doubtedly vulture funds in that well to see all our coverage on Puerto Rico. You can go to democracy now dot org. A belated happy birthday to Hugh. Grant democracy now is currently accepting applications for full time one year paid news production fellowship. Details at democracy now dot org democracy now produced by birth. And every shape of wells timing upset how cop John Hamilton Ravi. Karen entertainment of studio special Becca Stally Julie Crosby, I made me Goodman with Gonzales. Thanks for joining.

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COVID without papers

"Cova nineteen has found. Its way into the White House. Three members of a White House task force are in some form of warranty by Monday. All but three states will have at least partially reopened. This is America dissected. And I'm your host Dr Abdul El-Sayed. I've spent most of my career somewhere between public health and politics up until about March of this year. It was a pretty lonely place after all. Most folks don't really want to pay attention to the place where politics and public health meet public health. People don't like to have to think about politics for most of us we'd rather the world data driven and universally oriented to improving people's health and most politicians for their part don't tend to care much for public health. It's usually just an afterthought plugging away in the background. It's not flashy more annoying like that. Aunt uncle who seems to always prion your habits trying to get you to drink less pop or stop vaping and then this happened. I announced today that the New York City public schools will remain closed. We know that the effects of this pandemic will not subside anytime soon. Microsoft cofounder and billionaire philanthropist. Bill Gates is urging the federal government to shut down the entire country to save lives. Michigan Governor Gretchen. Whitmer is listening making our daily check in call with doctors and nurses on the frontlines of the fight against corona virus. Just outside our office window the frontlines of another fight protesters surrounding the capital in a drive by demonstration. But not people care to admit it. Public Health has always been political in. Politics has always at its core. Been about people's well being that's why I always stop and scratch my head when I hear people respond to honest criticism of the way. Politicians are handling this pandemic things like you're politicizing. The pandemic politics at its most basic level is the way we decide how to allocate scarce resources and as we've explored throughout this podcast. Health is a scarce resource. Think about it. Not everyone gets to have a long healthy life. And the folks who don't tend to be the people who lack resources whether income or wealth or education or social capital or prestige or networks in the first place think about who in nineteen has affected worst. Stay at home orders across the country. Of course a lot of businesses to close but grocery stores gas stations and restaurants are still considered essential. Some employees in those particular fields are worried about their health too. We just have gloves Donald. We don't wear face masks at I. We didn't have nothing to shield the employers for in front of the camera counter as many combat betty. So I'm at high us into this from anyone that comes in contact with me as porn look like unemployment food stamps of whatever. I can get to help me survive right now. If we really believed that everyone should have a long healthy life than we should be willing to reallocate those resources that shape people's health and that's why to have public health is itself a political choice. But here's the thing if public health is choice. What does that politics look like? Well we WANNA politics that values people's health recognizes that promoting health requires us to put science first and be committed to reallocating the resources that shape their health. Anything short of that is a politics. That just doesn't value public health. It's that simple. Which brings us back to what it means to quote. Unquote politicized a pandemic politicizing. This pandemic doesn't mean acknowledging the role that politics is played in every single choice that has been made about how our society should respond rather instead politicizing. This would mean giving pasta politicians who don't value public health purposely ignoring how their choices are harming the public's health in this pandemic and here are the facts over the past three months cove in one thousand. Nine hundred fundamentally changed the experience of American life for every single one of us. Some of US more profoundly than others and rather than leadership to put science and health. I we've gotten this now. The Democrats are politicizing. The Corona virus. And this is new hoax. Now the virus that we're talking about having to do a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat because of all we've done the risk to the American people remains very low. It's going to disappear one day. It's like a miracle it will disappear. You did disband the White House. Pandemic office in the officials that were working in that office left this administration abruptly. So what responsibility do you take that? In the officials that worked in that office said that the White House lost valuable time. Because that office wasn't disbanded. What do you make of that? Well I just think it's a nasty question that is what it looks like to politicize this. Pandemic. Meanwhile nearly eighty thousand Americans have. That's the equivalent of almost three seven. Forty sevens crashing every single day. Since the first death we knew about in late February. That's twenty seven nine eleven's that's to Iraq. War's worth of American lives lost. So yeah I'm never going to miss the chance to dissect the full scope of public health and that includes the politics that are ravaging it right now and we could have seen this coming. The president's failure here was written in his political decisions. Well before cove. It was word. There is no issue that best demonstrates that than immigration from his decision to end the DACA program to his Muslim ban to activate public charge rule to his concentration camps at the southern border to the way he is deployed is to round up into poor people. He has weaponized immigration for his political purposes and beneath at all are immigrants actual people with hopes and dreams and fears and lives people who have come here for nothing more than the notion that they could build a better life here my parents and unless you're native American or black your parents or grandparents or great grandparents came here for the exact same reasons. Undocumented people are among the most vulnerable in our society particularly during this pandemic we have deemed their labor quote unquote essential while deeming their existence. Illegal in. This pandemic has hit undocumented. Americans hard I speak about this with China. An immigrant rights activist after the break. For All our sakes. 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I'm so happy to be able to have this conversation with you today. So tell me a little bit about some of the obstacles that are undocumented decision brothers face in this moment as all of us are bearing down under the pain and challenge of a global pandemic. One particular are some of the challenges that undocumented folks face in this moment well undocumented workers documented families. are for the most part excluded from any safety net in normal times And in these moments of a global pandemic Undocumented people are feeling these exclusion more acutely because every Package of relief that has come out of the federal government has made a point of excluding mccain-graham families even families that have some people who were documented in their mid so for example. A citizen who is married to an undocumented person was excluded from cash assistance as it was design in the previous relief packages but Undocumented families in New York where I live Have been both the epicenter of the healthcare crisis The the numbers of both confirmed covert cases and the numbers of deaths have been disproportionately high because people have lived years and lives of not being able to access healthcare and lifetimes of poverty which take takes a toll on people's bodies And so they have arrived to this crisis with Being more vulnerable to with chronic conditions and and difficult and of health situations and then have Found themselves not being able to access care or being afraid of accessing care. So I've heard of stories of people waiting until the very last minute to go to the hospital both because of fear of what is happening inside the hospitals and because of fear of the bills because they do not have health insurance and And fear of public charge Which is you know. Essentially being forced to repay whatever assistance they seek from government When it comes to when they have an opportunity to change their immigration status so fear has actually defined people's experiences with the healthcare system prevented them from accessing it in the first place. Can you speak a little bit more to public charge? I think this is something that a lot of folks don't understand 'cause you think about public charges or two words that can mean a lot of different things. What is the the the public charge rule? And why is it so devastating particular right now so when people become legal permanent residence or adjust their status They are asked to prove that they will not become charge to the public. Meaning that they will not access Different levels of government support. They have to prove that they are going to be sold and be able to pay for their own expenses. Essentially so the idea. Basically we're going to discriminate against you. If you're low income in any way and ineffective we're gonNA use this old sense of being a a quote public charge to bar you from getting all of the basic things that we offer a lot of folks and by the way you know. One thing that I think is really important to that is entirely correct on. Is it like the implicit issue here? Is that we have this assumption. That public support only goes to people who are low income or poor and the problem with it. Is that like in this country? You look at tax subsidies for homeownership for example and the vast the vast majority of it goes to folks who earn more than one hundred thousand dollars a year. But of course we don't think about that the same way right. And so you know your your discriminate against people who are on snap or on wick or on Medicaid but not necessarily on people who are getting these huge tax subsidies to buy a house because they can afford a house right And so it's just it's used as a way of discriminating against that like confidence between poverty and And differential nation of origin. That's right and it is. We have so many roles in our country that punish poverty. And that perpetuate poverty the way that you know the welfare system is designed in some way is punitive in its design and the public charter. Rules are used to discriminate against immigrants. Who are low income and scare people from seeking supports that allow them to survive and in these moments of a pandemic? We need to make sure that people do not have fear about seeking medical assistance because it's essential for them for their own survival but also for the public's health and the public charge rules that the trump administration has tried to advance have really harmed Public Health because there there are millions of people who are simply afraid of Going to the hospital because they are afraid that they will have to pay consequences later on in their lives if they try to adjust their status or their families tried to adjust their status at some point so the combination of You know an anti immigrant persistent policy and rhetoric from the trump administration and the barriers that undocumented people have to access healthcare in the first place have really been a very dangerous brew envy's moment and undocumented families are bearing the brunt of the deaths in many cities we are hearing of the Also the role that undocumented workers are playing in our economy and at the same time that they are excluded from any kind of support coming from the federal government. So I WANNA I WANNA zero in on two aspects here so. The first is the healthcare aspect. And you're right you know this. This pandemic is showing us that we are all as vulnerable as a society as the most vulnerable person and what we have is federal policies on the books that make some of the most vulnerable people in our society. People who aren't protected by paperwork even more vulnerable right because it basically says that there will be a cost to pay if you were to do the basic thing that all of us are told to do that. If if we're really sick we should seek medical care. Yes These these pandemic is showing that our lives are deeply interconnected first of all in our country and our Globe and that the structural inequality that we have The ways in which our societies is constructed to have so many bolt so vulnerable either because they are undocumented and afraid to seek health care or because they are living paycheck to paycheck and catastrophe is just around the corner or because their jobs their healthcare is tied to their jobs and when they lose their job they lose their health care every single one of those components of how we are structured as as was Eddie has made as so much more vulnerable as a country and is showing How The like we are as what you were saying. As strong as the most vulnerable emigrants are among most vulnerable in our in our society because they are exposed to tremendous exploitation at work because they don't qualify for unemployment insurance so when So they have to toil and a way to make a buck every day because there is no check waiting No unemployment check no cash assistance. Check waiting for them and because they are also in trump like living in most places in tremendous poverty in overcrowded housing in really dangerous working conditions before the crisis those conditions have made them both more vulnerable during the crisis and more exposed to kind of the they're both the economic fallout of of these of the covert nineteen crisis and the public health fallout. I want to speak to the economic fallout. Because one of the things that we've been seeing are You know America does meat. Supply is getting extremely thin and part of that is because meat. Packing plants have become Centers for for disease and part of that is because of who works in them and we know that a lot of times These are places where a lot of folks don't WanNa work and so the folks who are willing to work Those kinds of ours and those kinds of circumstances under that kind of pressure tend to be undocumented folks and they're getting extremely sick and so it talks to the the healthcare exploitation right that you have to work and that puts you in a place where your body is at risk of contracting the disease but it speaks to the what happens when our economy can no longer rely on the supply of undocumented Labor that we on the one hand rely upon and on the other hand demonize can you. You speak to the the role that the we'll just say the undocumented economy plays in upholding and under girding our economy in general. Yeah people think that undocumented workers are working in these like underground economy these parallel to stem. But that is not the case. Undocumented Labor is central to the formal economy of this country. It is central to The food chain whether we are talking about Vegetables or meat It is central to the care economy. Undocumented workers are are vast majority of the of those who provide child care and elder care in our society it is central to the like restaurant industry essential to the hospitality industry. People are not toiling in light red dark corners of our economy. Their Labor is essential to major pieces of our economy and their their labor in these momentum covered nineteen has actually been called essential while their lives are disposable. They are both asked to come back to work every day to cook. And the restaurants that remain open and are delivering food. They're asked to work in the meatpacking industry so that people can continue to find need and the in the grocery stores they are asked to come and stock. The shelves of those grocery stores transported the food that we are ordering online and they are at the same time standing in food lines at the end of the work day to try to get food for themselves and their families so they're both at the same time. Essential and expendable essential expendable Essential and excluded from any form of relief that is being discussed by the federal government and BC's extremely dangerous. I do not know how we as a country recovered from this crisis if we are not able to allow people to shelter in place until it is safe to not do that. And we're not able to allow workers to have not just the protections at work but the food that their families need to survive. I very connected to An immigrant organization in New York City New York and it's an organization of primarily Latino immigrants to these day make the road has lost thirty eight members to combat nineteen because they're living in the most Kind of the Hudson's of the of the covert crisis in year city but in addition to the deaths. What I am hearing is a level of despair that I had not heard ever before and immigrants are used to living in fear in this country. People are used to living with a level of uncertainty that that is not familiar to most Americans but You know because deportation is always a possibility because families operation is always a possibility but I have never heard the level of despair and sadness in people's voices that I hear rain now because they say I have nothing in my fridge and I know I'm supposed to stay at home but I do not know how I'm GonNa feed my family today. I have to go out and find some way to make twenty dollars so that I can feed my children and myself and how am I not idle contemplated in the recovery of what is a public crisis? That doesn't the virus doesn't discriminate but the policies people do have in our country too. Yeah I am at is As devastating to hear what is it that we need to do to respond right now. What are the things that we can be pushing for to make sure that our immigrant neighbors and community members are cared for and to make sure that you know also from the public health standpoint that we are not ignoring a community that That needs to be taken care of. But also because you know we're all connected here Is is leading to just more death and disease in our society so I think I want to start with the healthcare question. These crisis has demonstrated how broken our healthcare system is that as long as people's healthcare is attached to their jobs. They are incredibly vulnerable. We are all incredibly vulnerable as long as we have a for profit model driving the decisions of hospitals of how many hospital beds they have or how they stabbed their hospitals. We are all very vulnerable so these is a moment to demand what we need. It is a moment that has proven the Cecil and the urgency of implementing Mitt like a Medicare for all system single payer system that makes health care available to everyone and guarantees. Healthcare's human right. There are policies promoted right now in Congress associated with the healthcare with the cove nineteen crisis both by Bernie Sanders of course and by congresswoman. Pramilla I about and the House that offer as part of the response to cove it a medicare for all system For the duration of the crisis. That seems like an profoundly urgent demands when we have twenty six million people who have lost their jobs millions of them probably lost their healthcare or are being told that they can you know stay on their health insurance if they cover cobra payments which are astronomically expensive and do not include families. That is not a solution that works for people who just lost their income and it. It is not a solution for a country that has such a broken healthcare system so we should all be demanding forcefully a medicare for all system at the very least for the duration of the corporate crisis and we should be really demanding from Democrats and Republicans to advance relief. Solutions that include everybody that both address. The realities of essential workers that defined essential workers broadly not just as firefighters and police officers and nurses and doctors but as far more occurs childcare workers grocery workers restaurant workers. All these folks are actually allowing people to shelter in place and so their labor regardless of their immigration status should be compensated appropriately and they should be they should have the protections that they need in order to do their job safely and they should have the support that they need in order to be able to work because when we ask a nurse to shop to work but her children are not in school and she doesn't have anyone to take care of their children. That is putting her in an impossible situation to we need care for their children and their elders in their family To enable them to do that right now. Congress is negotiating the next relief package and Democrats have incredible leverage especially in the house because they have both they control the majority and they will be negotiating with trump directly on what the next relief package is. They should be demanding. Not What is possible? But what is necessary They should go big and bold and really meet may demand that meets the magnitude of the crisis. That people are facing. I cannot believe that when I look at the pictures of you know cars lined up for miles in Texas for people to pick up bags of food that those pictures are pictures of the United States of America. It is a boggled Mind to know that in a country as rich as ours in a state as rich as Texas people. Are you know having to stand in line to get food? Because they have no other way to feed themselves and their families so this is a moment to demand a lot. These is a moment to demand all of us to be included And that means we have to force Democrats to fight for immigrants. They cannot really be afraid in these moment because the Labor of immigrants is actually keeping us all fed right now to central. Yeah I really appreciate that. We always ended up on a China under. Not just a personal. How are you spending these days right now? So I am spending these days Juggling the care for my children who are my two kids for out of school and have their own homeworks and seven hours of work that they're supposed to do and they're small so they need help navigating every email and every zoom call I'm spending time cooking for them and caring for them and I'm spending time Talking to Organizers and activists across the country who are. I'm trying to ban together to Fours elected officials to really meet these with a level of urgency and forceful like visionary demanded that it requires grateful for you in your work and And taking some time out of what I know is a really busy scheduled to chat with us and to share those stories and in that perspective. So thank you for your work and your leadership and in your voice and we we connect when when we're all out of out of our own homes and back out in the world and stay safe. Okay thank you so much for your leadership by your incredibly powerful moral voice. 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Biden VP Pick: What To Know About Kamala Harris

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Biden VP Pick: What To Know About Kamala Harris

"From NPR and Wvu are Boston Jane Clayson, and this is on point the electing Joe. Biden is just the start of the work ahead of us and I couldn't be prouder to be by his side running to represent you. The people. That's California Senator Kamala Harris yesterday in Delaware in her first official speech as the Democratic candidate for vice president this hour on point the significance of the Biden Harris ticket. Let's begin this hour in Gainesville Florida with Sheeran Right Austin. She's a political science professor at the University of Florida. Her research focuses on American government and African American politics. Sharon. Welcome to one point how nice to have you. Hi Nice to meet you and from Washington Democratic Strategist Joe Pain. He's also CBS News political analyst and the host of here comes the pain podcast. Joel. Welcome. Back to a point great to have you as well. So, Joe Biden Commonly Harris making their first official appearance as running mates yesterday. This was a barrier breaking moment with Senator Harris, a woman of color the daughter of immigrants Sharon I'll begin with you what were your thoughts seeing this ticket together I was very happy to see that he had selected her I expected him select Senator Harris it was just a very good feeling I couldn't help but to think of my mother who is now deceased and my father as well. They were born in the nineteen thirties and nineteen forties in Mississippi and live lived in a segregated society and they would have been so so happy to have lived to have see this moment happen. Joel Pain Vice President Biden interviewed eleven, women, leaders as he called them for the vice president. John What do you think gave Kamala Harris the edge. Well, it's interesting. You know comal Harrison such a historic nominee for this position but she really was the most conventional choice from the get go. I think because she has a national profile, she ran a major presidential campaign. She's run statewide state like California twice successfully She's got a great personal narrative. She is a dynamic speaker somebody who can use her. Oratory skills to really help execute the Biden message across the country I. Think all of those things gave her an advantage but also the personal chemistry I I noted that in the speech yesterday that both the vice president and also served Harris talked about her relationship with Biden and how that bind them together. So I think it really was the perfect storm. Indeed, Harris checks allowed the right boxes. She's already been through a vetting process as you referred to of course, she ran in the twenty twenty Democratic primary. She's not as progressive as Elizabeth Warren, not as moderate as a Susan Rice, which we'll talk about a little bit later in the hour. Let's hear from her first. Here's Comma Harris speaking about her parents and their commitment to justice yesterday in her speech in Delaware here she talks about her mother, my mother Shammala raised my sister Mayan me. To believe that it was up to us. And every generation of Americans to keep on. She tell us don't sit around and complain about things do something. So I did something. I devoted my life to making real the words. Carved in the United States Supreme Court. Equal. Justice under law. Sharon Reid. Austin how his harasses backgrounds shaped her as a person and as a candidate for this particular moment. She has a very interesting background as you pointed out with her being the daughter of immigrants she grew up in an attended mostly predominantly white schools. She then went to Howard University, which is a historically black college choose very much involved in campus life. She was an activist even in college, and so this was a moment that if you know anything about her background, you shouldn't have been surprised to see that she is on the ticket to be vice president and possibly might be the first black female black president. because. If you look back at her background, she has been involved in leadership activities throughout her life. Then later she attended law school, she had a very successful career and as the other panelists Mitch and she'll statewide officed one twice, which is very uncommon for minorities and women because it's very difficult for them to win statewide elections she ran for president at first she was doing well but she. Ran into funding problems. So she has the type of she's pretty much just a complete package. She has the ideology she has the background, she has the experience So this is something that's very exciting. We'll get to her senatorial and her prosecutor prosecutorial record later on in the broadcast, but I want to hear from Joe Biden I. Hear He is yesterday speaking about his running mate Kamala Harris. This morning. All across the nation. Little girls woke up especially little black and brown girls who so often feel overlooked and undervalued in their communities. But today today just maybe they're seeing themselves for the first time in a new way. As the stuff of president and vice presence. Joel Pain what does Kamala Harris bring to Joe Biden and what does she bring to this ticket to your mindful? Well she brings energy She also brings an appeal to really the all the disparate parts of the Democratic Coalition. Progressive you can look Comma Harrison see someone that you know maybe she doesn't wrote or or say everything that you agree with all the time, but she's progressive enough. If you're a moderate, you can see somebody who can appeal to you. You're an African American woman a college educated woman in the suburbs a woman in the city who's raising a young family, her personal narrative and her career, and her life intersect through all of those different situation within the Democratic Party. I'd also say to she demonstrated yesterday that she can do the most important job that vice presidential nominee has to do deliver a message against the administration she delivered a fiery and on point. Of the trump administration, particularly their response, the rotavirus. Beyond all the pomp and circumstance and the excitement of the last forty, eight hours that might be the thing that the Biden folks are most excited about. Well, let's talk about that for a moment here is president trump reacting to the announcement that Comma Harris is the Democratic vice presidential nominee. I. Was more surprised. Anything else because. She did so poorly many people that much better than her in the primary she did very poorly in the primaries and that's like a poll. Sharon Reid Austin President Trump besides what he said there he called Senator Harris a risky pick this week he referred to quote horrible things. She's said about Joe Biden the president also called Senator. Harris Nasty a word he has used previously to describe women who challenge him Sharon. I'm it seems that the Biden camp understands that on some level Senator Harris really gets under the president's skin. I think. So but I think that it isn't so much senator. Harris I think that president trump has had a confrontations with several women I think that if he if Joe Biden had chosen anyone. Other than senator, Harris he would have had the same type of conflict I think when I listened to his speech. I thought about the fact he mostly is just already campaigning and he's trying to say the things that he needs to say try to discredit her because the polls are showing that he's behind. So I wasn't really surprised at all to hear the comments that he may I wasn't. It wasn't shocking at all chill pain. Here's came ran out of the gates swinging hard donald trump. What did you make of the president's response so far? Just Day to hear. I mean I think what we've seen a lot of reporting of is that the president team appeared to be taken a backer or almost off-balance, which is surprising. Considering the fact that Senator Harris with somebody was thought to be a front runner from the beginning she is not easily caricatured both because were personal narrative impressive career. But also politically, you can't musician Kamala. Harris is some while progressive. That's way to the left of. The of the mainstream She's right in the middle of the Democratic Party just like Joe Biden and I think that's probably why the president team struggling. Of course, he's going to result to some of the nasty insults that we heard him using until. Clinton. Who I worked for four years ago he's been a reprise that playbook and probably try to do the same thing I also think beyond just the Biden Harris ticket you. Look at some of the president other tactics you know brought up the whole issue of the the suburbs and you know suburban housewives and was pretty direct about making racial issue and some of his media appearances around that. So it's it's pretty clear that the president has team have not settled on a message and I think they're gonNA throw the whole kitchen sink and it's going to be ugly and it's frankly it's gotta be. Painful particularly for a lot of Americans and a lot of a lot of groups of Americans have felt ostracized by this White House get to that point you you mentioned working on the Clinton campaign and it's interesting to note that the Harris announcement comes one month later than the Tim Kaine announcement came with Hillary. Clinton four years ago certainly shortens the window of attack time on on the candidate I would guess you would say Joel. That such, a good point, and I actually think Joe Biden has really benefited from time this time around I think you know nobody's happy about what's going on with Corona virus but I think the unintended benefit for the Biden campaign it really has shortened the campaign season It's shorten the need for him to be doing rope lines and doing these long speeches and getting in front of rallies of twenty thousand people this moment and and you know this election cycle that we're in. I'm really actually does play to Joe Biden's benefit I'm and I think that being able to name VP candidate a month. Later you're right it does shorten the attack window. We know they're gonNA turn anybody that Joe Biden would have picked into a boogeyman and I. Think they're going to try to do the same thing Comma Harris. But as I said before I think she's a little bit harder to box. So to that point Sharon Reid Austin, just watching them yesterday. Typically when a VP candidate is announced, there's a big rally hundreds of supporters. There's Confetti and balloons. It was such a different scene yesterday when Harrison Biden appeared together for the first time in an empty high school gymnasiums. Sharon it's such a sign of the Times in history making in it's in his own way Sharon. Exactly. Because of the pandemic, it's changed a lot of things during this campaign season, and as you mentioned in previous years, it would have been the announcer would have been made in front of a very large audience thousands of cheering supporters. But unfortunately, because of the pandemic things have to be different this year but I do find that social media has been very active and so even though people are not able to really come together and rallies both of the candidates are doing a lot of campaigning through social media. Well, a lot of campaigning and a lot of fundraising Joel Pain of the Biden campaign raised twenty, six, million dollars in the first twenty, four hours after the VP, announcement of of Harris that's of that's a single day fundraising record with one hundred, fifty, thousand first time contributors. Does that indicate to you? Joel? Significant number you know money is so interesting politics. I think we're at a point now where both sides are going to raise enough money to be competitive. But what it really is an indicator of energy and I think that shows you is that providing campaign has a lot of energy. It'd fat Senator Harris help support. cussing comma, Harris's historic candidacy for vice president this hour up next, we'll look at her record and more with Sharon Reid Austin Professor Political Science at the University of Florida and Joel Pain Democratic Strategist. CBS News political analyst much more to come listener stick with us. I'm Jane Clayson. This is on point we'll be right back. This is on point I'm Jane. Clayson. We're talking about the historic selection of Senator Kamala Harris joining Joe Biden on the Democratic presidential ticket with me this hour Sharon Austin political science professor at the University of Florida and Democratic Strategist Joel Pain I want to bring in another voice to the conversation now Angela People's is a progressive organizer activist and strategist she's the director of the Collective Black Women Four Angela welcome to appoint great to have you. Hygiene having me so the BP stakes started with Comma Harris pretty much being the favourite I would say ended with her being the pick what's your reaction to this announcement? I. think that Yeah I. Agree with the other panelists that. Made a lot of sense pick for for Joe Biden I'm not I'm certainly not surprised and I think that Senator Harris definitely adds to the ticket and it was a good choice for him I do think that there the the question, my my question to the Biden team and the Biden Harris Ticket is what is their strategy to engage parts of the base that won't be excited parts of the Democrat base that's going to be necessary to turn out in November. We saw throughout last year and even the beginning of this year of very active progressive segment of the party really turning out for candidates like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders and this pick Senator Harris well I'm it does speak to some of the the black voters that chose Joe Biden and black voters who are very much at the core of this base. There's a broader aspect of the black community and the democratic community that. I don't think We'll be as energized by this choice, and so I think it's on the Biden and the hairs ticket really show that community that aspect of the party is going to be welcome in on their ticket. So it's a really important point than this very real tension between the moderate and the progressive wings of the of the Democratic Party. So answer your own question, how do you engage and appeal to the more Progressive Democrats out there? Well I. Think one very important step is to be very active and engaged on the this effort around police brutality defunding the police was cry a call to action that we heard echoed by thousands in the streets this summer and given Joe Biden sucker being the architect of the ninety four crime bill that really entrenched math incarceration system that is devastating black communities and Brown communities across the country and Senator Harris record as a prosecutor It's GonNa be very important that they take very active steps to reach. Out to two liter have been fighting for not just reforming the criminal justice system but completely really a dismantling in a way that actually puts resources into the communities that that can stop gun violence, and that can actually make our communities safer and not just double down on on failed you know police reforming tactic that we know don't work and I think that the there are there's a lot of activity. There's a lot of engagement. There's a lot of movements and leaders that the vitamin Harris ticket can can be Working with to not just show in speeches or in rhetoric but actually policies that they adopt into their into their platform that will really be an indication that they're prepared to make that shift and really write some of the wrongs that frankly particularly Joe Biden I think are at his footsteps comes to the the experience of mass incarceration and criminalization of. Country there's a lot for them to do and I know myself and other activists are are are really looking to them to take leadership in reaching out to those communities to make sure that that effort is is lifted on and that momentum doesn't just show up with the black woman at the top of the ticket but that it actually shows as significant transformation policy. transformative policies that are going to be necessary. So beyond that engagement, what what challenges do you see Kamala? Harris facing within the party outside of the party. Can she appeal to independent voters? Do you think for example? I think you know we the we've seen what some of the challenge. coming from other Democrat reports of other. Democrats. Joe Biden making his decision. You know relying on you know sort of racist and sexist jokes talking about how a an ambitious woman of someone being ambitious and like how many are being ambitious. Angeleri there. I. Think we lost. You're on a cell phone Angela. People's Thank you very much for your time. I'm so sorry we couldn't finish the conversation with you but you make some good points in I. Appreciate You be part by being part of the broadcast today Angela People's director of the progressive organizing. Collective Black Women Four. Let me go back to Joel Pain and Sharon. Reid Austin here. To Angeles Point Joel. Let's start with you. What do you make of of of Kamala? Harris need to sort of engage you know one wing this sort of progressive wing of the Democratic Party. I think what you heard. There is tension point in the party and it's really what we saw tease now over the fall and last summer over the Democratic presidential choice, primary and I think a lot of that was litigated and despite the fact that there's a lot of energy from the Progressive Wing of the Democratic Party so far it what is born out is that the winning coalition the Democratic Party's tend to come from the middle from the center that said I think the campaign has been very smart strategic They've pulled in folks that have Bona Fides in that community you know folks like the chief of staff or come Harris writes that. Up, here, former colleague of mine who will be chief of staff who was an Obama veteran is somebody who's worked with move on DOT ORG APP right? They brought in those people they also with their economic plan just released last month they consulted very closely with Senator Elizabeth Warren and her staff that Senator Warren and Vice President Biden to become very close in. The previous for six months though I think they're doing the things that you need to do at the grassroots level to build trust and to earn trust. But there's clearly a lot more work than needs to be done and they bring now into the conversation Anthony. Brooks is on points two thousand, twenty political correspondent Anthony Great to have you thanks for being with us. Oh my pleasure Jim good to be with you. So to that point, let me ask you about this notion of engaging the left flank of the party. The trump campaign wants to say that Joe Biden is sort of a puppet of the radical left that Comma Harris is a is a radical lefty and in campaign ads already, the trump team is referring to biden harasses quote two of the most radical the nation's most radical Democrats. But isn't it true? Anthony of Kamala Harris really has had to defend her own record as a prosecutor during the campaign the Bernie Sanders Wing, the part of the Progressive Democrats have been very critical. Of Harris, they have not embraced her anthony. Yeah, I mean it's true and I think what's going to be I. Mean what I'm most interested in watching the weeks ahead here. I don't think comma. Harris did a great job during the presidential campaign and sort of sorting through her record as a prosecutor and California's top cop. And there are progressive who who fought faulted her on a number of things I mean, for example, For, example, her being unwilling to prosecute police misconduct California and being too timid proposals around. Reform police reform. Now that said since the killing of George. Floyd, the police killing of George. Floyd. She's emerged as a key advocate for change and reform. She marched with protesters she pushed for making lynching a federal crime and and she's called for other kinds of reform but it will be interesting to see to what extent she can sort of sort through the complicated record. She has California's top cop. So in terms of yeah. Go ahead you're. Sharing Austin into this on that point Anthony because Sharon. Is, Anthony said Harris has spent months defending her record as a prosecutor in San Francisco specifically on this criminal justice reform platform ship posed a bill in California to ensure independent investigations of police using fatal force among other things. Sharon is this an issue for her now especially in this moment of racial reckoning in this country. This is an issue for her within the Democratic Party especially with progressive voters. One of the things that the Biden Harris sticky has to benefit is the fact that they've been endorsed by other progressive candidates like Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren. But this is something that she is going to have to account for but the good thing also for her is that she already Has Run in the Democratic primary during that time she was questioned during debates about her record and she talked about the way her views have evolved and another thing that she has to her benefit is her progressive record as a US senator she has voted in sort of a progressive type of way. So that's something that she can use her advantage but unfortunately for. Especially for those who've been in office for a longer period of time, which isn't really the case with her but they have in their record that they have to answer for, and sometimes it's much better to have less experienced political candidate running for office and someone who's been in office for a long time. Because if you've been in office for long time, you're bound to have done several things. I'm taking several positions that have been popular and so to. Answer your question yes that he is going to be something that some of the more progressive members of the Democratic Party are not going to accept her explanations because during her career as California attorney. General enduring the time that she was there she did come up with she did have some positions that some people are very troubled by Joel Pain speak to that point. How do you city implications of of Harris's prosecutorial record specifically with regard to criminal justice reform? They are undoubtedly a challenge I. Think I'll Tammy's point but she did have some some trouble with that on the campaign trail explaining baton and coming to grips with that, I think Sharon's point. One of the advantages of senator, Harris, record is that it's not quite as deep at the federal level and she at least in my view took pretty market effort in the last six months particularly said she dropped out of the presidential campaign to really. Try to firm up some of relationships. To signal and to do the things, you need to do to appeal to those folks but really, and truly what's interesting to me is the reason why she was chosen is the very reason that we're talking here and it's because she's not a progressive she's not a left. The whole issue of the trump campaign having a hard time boxing or in like that is the yes it's a challenge for her in the left wing of the Democratic Party. It is also what makes her what made her the most attractive candidate for the binding teams and Admiral? The Beth attention. Yeah. No I appreciate it. Anthony Brooks back to you just on one other point about her record. Harris has been wobbly right on some policy issues like Medicare. At first, she backed Medicare for all and then she distanced herself from it help us understand some of those positions. Yeah I mean that's absolutely true. I mean. If you recall during the camp during her campaign, she was first four Medicare for all and then sort of backed off she made a statement about wanting to do away with all private health insurance that. Got Into. A little bit of trouble. So yeah. I. Think Wobbly a good word but to follow up when Jules Point I mean what I find really interesting about Biden selecting Kamla harasses it makes a Lotta sense for the campaign right now because in a way she amplifies in a positive way for Joe Biden who Joe Biden is. Politically I mean centrist pragmatic. And you know giving trump kind of difficult challenge in pinning her down. He can't credibly claim that she's a radical lefty but I think what this does is if Joe Biden wins in November it's sort of postponed reckoning within the Democratic Party that sort of intramural fight that is inevitably going to happen between the Progressive Wing of the party it's probably better for Joe Biden that it happened while he's running for president but if he becomes president there's going to be this reckoning Between the Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren Wing of the Party and Joe Biden I mean right now, Biden and people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie. Sanders are doing a lot to help Joe. Biden. But if Elizabeth Warren stays in the Senate, for example, and that's another part of the discussion we can have she'll be in this interesting position of not only supporting. Biden. But also holding his feet to the fire on progressive issues and that's going to be a really interesting. Reckoning within the Democratic Party and to be go ahead John, I was just GonNa, say, Jane, I think that's such a great point by Anthony this pick was as much about twenty, twenty, four and twenty, twenty eight was about twenty twenty. It really does set the trend lines for the democratic. Party and the next day that said I wouldn't be surprised if Joe Biden Listen Joe Biden one and maybe he was a one term president if Comma Harris faced a primary. Running. For the presidency and twenty, twenty four, there is some I mean, Angela. Really gave voice to a lot of that energy on the Progressive Wing of the Democratic Party. But progressives are kind of tired of waiting. Being told to wait one election cycle I I. I actually make that Anthony is absolutely right that this temporarily delays a real fight within a Democratic Party for the soul apart Sharon Austin, do you agree with that? I agree with the completely I think that a for one thing I think that the party is going to come together simply because of their disliking for president trump and their disapproval of him but nevertheless the. She's going to have to really clarify her views and she really is going to have to appeal to all of the members of the Democratic Party. And to add to that team Biden and Democrats can talk a lot about these issues and the differences and the progressives in the moderates. But at the end of the day, Anthony Brooks, they want to keep this election squarely as a referendum on Donald Trump do they not? Absolutely, and you know I think and I think at this point was made earlier in the hour. But by Joel I mean, I, think what? They did yesterday really effectively it's early times right? They've had one appearance on speech together but I thought Kamala Harris sort of presented herself yesterday as that sort of prosecuting voice for the open and shut case against the trump administration, and that's clearly where they want to. Keep the focus and and You saw them signal that and sort of because that that case yesterday so far pretty effectively I think here's a clip from the democratic debate last summer where Senator Kamala Harris targeted Joe Biden record against federally mandated efforts to integrate public schools in the nineteen seventies. Here's that part of that exchange. Do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose busing in America down? Do you agree I did not oppose busing in America what I opposed is blessing ordered by the Department of Education that's what I opposed. Why did not a failure of states to into knowing schools in America? I was part of the second class to integrate Berkeley California public schools almost two decades after Brown v Board of Education Because Your City Council made that decision it was. have. Joe Such an interesting interaction on so many levels. Are there issues that these two don't see eye to eye on by a Biden Harris? Oh absolutely but that's that's nothing new for national for tickets. I mean George H W Bush and Ronald Reagan were barely talking when Ronald Reagan tapped him as the vice president nineteen eighty I think that Clinton-gore nobody thought they were best friends than ninety. Do I think really you look at Obama Biden, they were rivals in two, thousand eight. So this is historically something that has happened I. Think What's interesting about the change to me is the fact that while They were clearly a lot of Biden allies within the campaign that were bothered by that. I actually think the former vice president himself appreciated that Alma Harris went after him and demonstrated the thing that you need to do with the number or two hundred fifty, which is to be able to effectively deliver our puch which she did and I actually think that that was probably art of the reason why the former vice president jokes are as opposed to working against her anthony. degree. Yeah I mean it's interesting. I'm not sure I. Mean I appreciate what Joel says I mean I'm also aware that. Jill Biden for example, described that as a gut punch I, mean I know that there were people close to Biden including his wife who were really upset by that and it did seem like a sort of. You know obviously straighted kind of. Moments. Sneak attack on him. So I don't know how I feel about that but I think it shows that Biden understands the rough and tumble nature of politics He's certainly a seasoned veteran and that in that regard we are discussing Senator Kamala Harris in the way forward for Democrats in two thousand, twenty presidential race with Anthony Brooks Joe Pain Sharon Right Austin more to come after this break I'm Jane Clayson this is on point we'll be right back. This is on Point Jane? Clayson? Tomorrow is our weekly News Roundtable and we WANNA know what's on your mind how is the hold up on the new stimulus package impacted your life? How does Joe Biden's choice of Senator Kamala Harris for his running mate? Make you feel do you live in a state that had a primary? This week had voting gopher you tell us your stories and send us your questions for our panelists six, one, seven, three, five, three, zero, six, eight, three. I'm here today with a great political panel to God is through the significance of the Comma Harris Candidacy for Vice President Sharon Austin is a political science professor at the University of Florida. Joe. Pain is a Democratic Strategist Anthony Brooks on twenty twenty political correspondent. I mentioned earlier in in the broadcast trump donald trump president trump's response to Kamala. Harris. and this pick this week he he called her many things including nasty and mean and horrible and disrespectful. To play this clip from Susan Rice the former UN ambassador and national security adviser who was also on Joe Biden's vice presidential shortlist. She congratulated Senator Harris on Tuesday and had this warning about attacks that are to come there will be those that employ racism and sexism look at Donald Trump yesterday. Calling her nasty. He would have done that to any person that Joe Biden selected. On the ticket and in that's the undertone those who will not retreat from that kind of divisiveness and hatred Donald Trump exemplifies. Anthony Brooks speak to this point to Susan Rice's sort of warning about what's to come. Well yeah I mean I. Think I mean what we've seen is is so far the White House sort of struggling in a way to come up with. An attack against Kamla Harris I mean as we've discussed, it's kind of difficult to cast her as radical left. Person WHO's coopting Joe Biden and sort of drag them back to Cuba or Russia wherever it is. I mean it just doesn't wash your record. But clearly, it's going to get really nasty and I think as we've already pointed out there, there've been attacks already on her. And on the Biden Harris ticket that this is bad for the suburbs. Because you know they're going to. Do. God knows what to the suburbs and that's an obvious appeal with racist. Undertones. About sort of white suburban fears of a changing America. So I think all of that is going to is GonNa, come and more, and so I think Susan Rice is correct and I think it would've come no matter who Joe Biden picked joe pain as to the suburbs strategy a lot of analysts talking about the Biden campaigns sort of suburbs strategy and certainly trump tweeting yesterday the suburban housewife will be voting for me. your thoughts on the president's twitter feed in seeming to confirm that assumption. Well, it's problematic on a couple levels I mean morally obviously I don't spend much time on how problematic it is strategically I think it's off for starters Reno that college educated women have been really turned off by Donald Trump and I think a lot of those suburban women. There's a crossover there with that ovulation also were in a moment in time in American history in recent American history where I actually think that the allegiances are getting mixed up in a way that the president and his team might be a cycler to behind on a if you go around suburbs around the country many of those houses. Yeah. They have American flags. They also have black lives matter. Flags or posters their window and I don't know if the kind of you know rank frankly bigoted approaches that maybe the president has been able to rely on in the past I. Don't think that they're going to have the same a pet also, that's pretty Pete to come to come to this early in the cycle. That's a really high level of rhetoric to get to in August I don't know where else you can go if you're basically accusing the other side of of some of these kinds of various things. So I don't I don't I don't know where the president's team can go I'm sure they can you know reach beeper into their arsenal? Of Tactics but he does it feels like the president is the emerges reaching right now and I think we're seeing that reflected in his polling numbers here in Boston. What are you seeing down in Florida where you are? I'm saying that. He referred to suburban housewives and the fact that they will vote for him while I'm a suburban not housewife but a suburban wife who lives in a racially mixed community and I'm saying sort of a mixture of things to me. Some of my neighbors are trump supporters some of my neighbors abide supporters and so when he uses language like suburban housewives, he's talking about conservative white women and the women will go for him and it's been proven that that is a they are among. The strongest members of the space but there are other suburban wives who are women, of color in also suburban wise. Even who are white women who aren't going to support him because they don't really agree with his positions and then another thing that I hope we get a chance to talk to but I wanna Mitch and a little bit about the the Typo campaigning I think we all kind of bracing ourselves for really ugly campaign season and we know that it's going to be very. Very outspoken president who says things a publicly that other presidents would never have said but I think the the the thing is this election is going to give a lot of implications for future presidential elections. If president trump wins, then it'll send a clear message that that type of campaigning style Kinda works. But if he loses, it'll send a message also that people are tired of seeing that type of politics. This is going to be a very important election considering the changing demographics in our country. And it's going to really set the stage for future elections in terms of the way that people were president. Well, it's hard to replicate to that point the kind of density that historically comes in these moments. Anthony how can you gin up the excitement in the days after a big announcement like this? I mean commonly hair. She's an exuberant campaigner. She's also pretty good social media candidate. Kinda hip and cool right? I. Mean How do you get creative to to sort of run a campaign in this environment? Boy. It's a great question and I don't think anyone really knows the answer to that. But I mean, I, think one of the big questions for the the Biden. Ticket is to what extent they can really harnessed the kind of explosive energy. We've seen in the demonstrations following the killing. Of George, Floyd, I mean I was struck today that too liberal groups of the Working Families Party in the Center for Popular Democracy Action these are groups that supported Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and They've said that they're supporting the the Biden Harris ticket, but it was tempered. It was a tempered endorsement saying that they see this is the best way to beat Donald Trump, and of course, that's what they WANNA do. But here's a quote I wanna read. From. From Joel EPS at sorry Jennifer. She's the president of the Center for Popular Democracy. She says, it's not a given that all of those millions of people who have taken to the streets for transforming our criminal justice system will turn around and go vote for Joe. Biden that to US represents a real threat. So in terms of getting up the excitement and the support for this for this ticket that represents A. Big Challenge is something that'll be really interesting to watch and Joel pain to Anthony's earlier point about progressive like senator. Elizabeth. Warren. If she stays in the Senate sort of keeping Joe Biden's feet to the fire if he were to be elected on progressive issues, I, mean there's going to be a real pole, a real pushing poll on Joe Biden on these on these platforms. Will be you know I worked in the last Senate that the Democrats had sixty votes I I was The for Senator Harry Reid's that when he was majority leader back in those first two years of the Obama term and I can tell you that is exciting as that is to kind of have that kind of governing mandate. It's also tough to keep your caucus together and I can tell you Joe Biden successful this November He will have a short time where you can be very excited about being president and then he will realize that now. Instead of the of the the fire coming from the other side of the political field, there's to come from within the party. It's really hard to keep order When you have a big tent party like that. By definition if you have a big pet, you're GONNA have a lot of competing interests and a lot of competing voices what they really quickly on what Sharon said earlier, which I think is absolutely, right? Yes. The president is playing good politics to excite his base, but we've never seen a president running for reelection that cares nothing about expanding and. Donald Trump has done nothing to add new votes. Yes. I'm sure people who voted for Donald Trump last time might feel good about what he's done but really election that this point in time when you're trying to win reelection are about addition not subtraction and I don't think the president has really built addition into the equation I don't I don't see where he's reached out even Barack Obama in two thousand twelve tried to add moderate Republican talking about the deficit and things like that. Ronald. Reagan tried to add people many four donald trump has no interest in doing. Sharon Reid really interesting. Yeah. Go ahead. If I can just add to that because you know talk about Joe Biden, it's just the opposite I mean he's done something really interesting bringing in Bernie Sanders. Setting up these task forces to put together policy proposals. He's worked really closely with Elizabeth Warren actually adopted some of her policy proposals on student debt forgiveness, for example. And and an increase of social security payments among some other stuff. So while Joel's talking about, Donald Trump doing nothing to expand his base of report, a support Joe Biden is at least made a credible effort to to do that and I find that really really interesting. It's also an interesting contrast to how effective Hillary Clinton was. For years ago in terms of reaching out to Bernie Sanders supporters and I would argue that that that Biden's doing a much better job at trying to expand that base of support that he wants to rely on the agree with Sharon. Agree. That completely even the selection of Senator Harris as a running mate is an attempt to try to show that he is trying to reach out to independence. He's trying to reach out to moderate voters in both moderate Republicans and also moderate Democrats and I agree completely that. Senator Biden is really doing a lot to try to expand his face. He wants to try to keep the core democratic base together, but he also is trying to attract support from independence and also from Republicans who may have voted for president trump last time but are no longer satisfied with him and are looking for an alternative So I think that he really has done the lodge tried to expand his face. Let me turn for a moment to the upcoming vice presidential debate between Comma Harrison Mike Pence, what looking for Joe Payne will start with you. We've seen Harris's Senator Harris's prosecutorial skills on display many times including during the cavenaugh hearings for the Supreme Court. What are you looking for? Joel? Contrast and really when you're talking about these veith opportunities to so show contrast actually think we really kind of hand back. We look at most recent debates. There are a ton of memorable moments you know remember Donald Trump kind of leering behind Hillary Clinton we remember Joe Biden and Sarah Palin kind of have an awkward Jane just in their debates but really most people thinking about that voting booth I suggest I think what they are for sporting a narrative and I think with the Biden campaign has been really trying to do this for this narrative of Miss didn't have to be this way. You Know Pamela Harris talked about it yesterday. She's GonNa talk about the contrast and how she would govern. Joe. Biden would cover versus how Mike Pence and Donald trump have covered and I. think she's going to be a very effective salesperson partnered vernacular but she's going to be very good at making that case to the American people and I think Mike Pence, has probably double down on appealing to those conservatives and those you Banjul or Republicans that have been sold to the trump based over the four years that they've been in office Sharon Reid Austin, how do you? How are you looking at it? I think that one of her greatest strengths is her ability as a debater and she showed that when she was running for president but I think the most important debates are going to be among a president trump and Joe Biden because the trump campaign has already put information out there and try to make voters think that Joe Biden. Doesn't have the medical passed into serve or that maybe that physically he Is Not capable of serving a lot of people focused on his advanced age and so I think that the debates between Biden and trump is going to be a lot more important than debates among Harrison pence in the sense that Joe Biden is going to be able to prove that he can't debate that he doesn't just have to read from a teleprompter, which is what he's been accused of Anthony Brooks? Yeah. I. Mean I agree with that and I think the debate that matters is going to be the presidential debate that said I think a caution for the Democrats Comma Harris has already there's just a lot of anticipation that because she's such a good debater in such a tough sort of interrogator and prosecutor that she's GonNa mop the floor with Mike Panton and I think by raising expectations like that. Democrats, could end up being disappointed and it's also true that historically vice presidential debates aren't remembered for very much I mean I'm thinking of Lloyd Bentson taking on Dan Quayle and sort of that great line. You know you're no Jack Kennedy and it just it was sensational but there aren't very many of those moments that I can think of beyond that debate. So we might be giving at this point too much attention to the prospect of a vice presidential debate, but it'll be interesting to watch no matter what and so next week, the Democratic nominations will happen in a virtual convention what what can we expect with that Joe? Pain. Give us a preview. Well I think we're going to hear. What we actually start to hear yesterday is really Democrat starts to lay out the case against Donald Trump a very organized. Fashion, but also image straight their version of America. Now I've heard a lot of Democrats talk about what you should roll out his cabinet and things of that nature I don't agree with that but I do think what Joe Biden wants to do and I think that convention next week he's going to do this show. This is how I see America I see Kamla Harrison part of my America see people Tammy Duckworth I people who are of different races and ethnic apart of my And I think you're GonNa see that theme of beaten into the ground with the Democratic convention and I imagine you'll see a slightly different message the following week at the Republicans Let me circle back in our final minute here to this historic choice of Kamala Harris it. It cannot be overstated I remember twelve years ago. We all do Sarah Palin introduced on the Republican ticket with John McCain, generation back in nineteen eighty four when it was Geraldine Ferraro with Walter Mondale Kamala Harris is only the third woman on a major party vice presidential tickets, Sharon Austin. This is a barrier that hasn't been broken yet and I still say given what we know about sexism and racism in this country in some ways, it is a risky choice. Do you think America's ready? I think America has been ready for a very long time. The United States is as far behind other countries that have already elected female presidents and feet in women and other positions of leadership, and even though we have women in positions of leadership in this country is not on the same level as countries that are thought to be not as progressive aboard vans as advanced as we are. So I think. That America. Is Definitely ready and I think that in this case, we should focus on the historical significance of this with her being a woman of color and her having her immigrant background. But also I think the main thing is that she is qualified and so I wanNA make sure that when we have all these discussions about her race gender that we don't forget that because that's the most important fact. Anthony Brooks will give you the last word. How will we remember this historical moment? It's GonNa. Be Really interesting than what I'm looking forward to seeing is to what extent Kamala Harris can really create the kind of excitement that she was able to do when she launched her own vice. Presidential Campaign Twenty, thousand people showed up. She's good at that. We'll see be able to sort of encourage that kind of passion and power in the in the weeks ahead will be interesting to watch Anthony Brooks. Thanks so much as always. Mark Jill Pain Democratic strategist. Host of the here comes the pain podcast. You'll thank you. And Sharon Reid Austin from the University of Florida Sharon always great to have you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you for inviting. Think you. Thank you listeners, I'm Jane Clayson. This is on point.

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What Gives Us Hope

Swing Left - How We Win

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What Gives Us Hope

"Happy Holidays everybody is episode eighteen of how we win all over the country ordinary people doing extraordinary things even during the holidays. We're giving you the tools that you need to jump in and make a difference right now. The Best Antidote to anxiety is action. Twenty twenty is almost here here. Countdown has started. And we want you to join the party. Oh you've got a special holiday episode today with all of the turmoil and uncertainty in the news. Today we're going to focus on what's giving us hope it's a look back at what we learned from some of our inspiring interviews that you may have missed. Then we're going to hear some special messages passages from the swing left leadership team and a special impeachment soft seghal. Listen to the whole episode to get that special impeachments on what's going to help you ring in the New Year I'm Steve Pearson and Mariah Craven and this is how we went Happy Holidays Mariah. Oh thanks happy holidays. I love this time of year. I do too. It's a very hopeful time. It's been quite the week news wise. And we're just got a little bit has been some stuff going on Donald Trump is officially actually impeached by the House of Representatives. We think no oh definitely voted. He's impeached by the House of Representatives. I don't buy into that Republican narrative that there's a debate on whether or not he's actually impeach just because Pelosi hasn't sent it to the Senate yet. Well I I think that's the fascinating thing about this is that it happens so rarely that no one knows what the hell is going on and they think macari sellers you said it best when he said a lot of people need to hand in their high school graduation certificates and go back to civics right and reeler reeler impeachment is. He's been impeached denies. The trials headed over to the Eventually Yup and we're GONNA go ahead and trust that sense sense. It was broadcast live on every network. And it's been around that everyone's pretty much up to speed with what's going on with impeachment and since it's the holidays and and we're looking forward to taking a much needed break before we slam into all the important work we had to do in two thousand twenty right. We're going to talk about some other stuff we're gonNA work on some top three lists that that you really maybe haven't heard about on. MSNBC OR CNN. I love top three. I love the end of of year. Lists It's my favorite. Yeah so let's start with our top three holiday songs. Okay starting writing with you Mariah. What what number three on your list of holiday songs? My number three song is the Earth a kit version of Santa Baby. Oh Wow Santa's only job is to bring presents on Christmas and sadly the singer of that song seems to think that she. He has to sleep with Santa in order to get those presents. She doesn't that's his only he's GonNa do it anyway. Well it does come off as very gold degree. But I don't think fishy ever said that she's going to sleep with. I'm listing the things that she wants. I guess and it's very reasonable list. I guess I hear what I WANNA hear. Yeah maybe you should examine your yourself. Yes before all right. That's good my number three is gonNa be classic Blue Blue Christmas from Elvis. That's a good one right because we need elvis around Christmas time. I feel like and it's just such a a classic evocative song and there's so many so hard. This is a hard list top three. There's a lot of holiday songs. Go and blue Christmas by Elvis. I I like that one. My second one is Last Christmas I gave you the George Michael Goal now a popular movie in collegiate. I have not seen the movie. Yeah I know the movies based on the song which should excite me but also oh I feel like that's an opportunity to ruin things but it's I love it because it's an earworm once you start singing it as I just did for all the people listening. You can't can't get out of your head further as whether it's number two on your list or in the bottom two of your list it's in your brain now number two Okay I'm GonNa go with Ray Charles's version of Rudolph the red nose rain. Oh that's a good one is really good Rudolph the red nosed reindeer Rudolph but Rachel saying that's a good one and and I liked. Thanks very accurate. Yeah Ray Charles makes everything cool and better and you you like classic artists. I I mean Elvis and Ray Charles is good Okay my top. One I gotta go with Mariah Carey. All I wanNA bring is number one on the charts for the first time instances. I think it came out twenty five years ago or something like that. It hit number one. This ear congratulations Mimi. My Namesake Mariah had the perfect holiday song and I will argue the last past good original holiday song. That's that's fair that's probably debatable. But I can't think of anything that POPs in migraine and and Yeah I was just thinking about that song yesterday and wondering how much darn dough she made off of that one song A lot and as as you as many people. I'm sure we'll recall it. It gained popularity in the horrible Christmas movie. Love love actually which I watch every year and absolutely hate and then since then she's you know really rebranded herself as the Queen of Christmas and and I think this it's a nice message. It's skewing materialism and capitalism and saying that all she wants Christmases Hugh Yeah. Ah Okay. What's your number number one? All right I really should have thought about this beforehand. It's hard for me to pick a top three songs of anything because I love so much music music. I'm going to go with the number with is going to be controversial. Pick for a lot of people out there than a number one Christmas song of all time Stevie. DV wonders what. Christmas means to me. Oh yes come on. It's so funky funky thing. I love about a good of really good strong. Christmas song is that they're strong songs. New Matter of what time of year it is whether it's a holiday a day or not you can just write a really great song and throw sleigh bells over it and all of a sudden you've got a hit Christmas on even even without this leap bells I mean I like it starts off strong bone bone data baseline right. Yeah I think your choices were really really saw in yours is yours or solid. Well you already mentioned a Christmas movie that you love if to hate love actually garbage garbage that you can't look away from right. Let's go top three holiday movies Steve. I'm glad you asked about this My off into this. My number three is home alone. Two could you guess why. Why don't tell me because you're huge? Donald Trump fan and he's in the movie only home alone movie where one of the cast members has been impeached life which showed up on the description of the movie somewhere for like a minute. What yeah someone has done like a screen grab above it in like the IMDB description of the movie said the only movie with a cast member? That's been impeached. Well it for those of you. Who probably don't remember the plot of home alone? Two is this kid gets lost in New York and he stays at a trump hotel and Dan apparently at the time. If filmmakers television producers wanted to shoot honor trump property they had to include Donald Trump in in the script that was one of the requirements for shooting on trump property can be cut out later but they left him in home alone two so every in the eighties and nineties every film or TV. Show that you saw on your trump property included donald trump walking by. And somebody going. How you doing Mr Trump? I did not know the backstory. That's fascinating thank you for sharing that. What's yours so my number three is bill Murray's scrooge scrooge? Oh always loved that movie. And I'm a big Bill Murray Fan. Yeah so eight never seen what. I'm like Oh yeah I've never seen screeched. It's based on the Christmas Carol. Yeah that thing. It's a modern take on the Christmas. Carol starring Bill Bill Murray. There's so much wrong. They come out with one of those Christmas Carol Movies every year. So how many like this. This is good big time television executive you know making everyone do a live Christmas special on Christmas taking them away from their family and he's visited by three ghosts. It's really good. Okay all right. I'll put it on my list to watch your number two. My number two is a documentary called twenty feet from stardom Which Che's about the backup singers? Yes make songs great and it features Darlene love right. She has a Christmas Song that you know in love love. She was toiling away in obscurity when David Letterman and that Christmas song brought her back and changed her life. And you should see it all right. So it's a fantastic documentary. I love that you included that in holiday movies because that song in that story he wants to tell people what the song is. The SAGAS called Christmas parentheses baby. Please come home. She had had her shot at stardom. didn't make it. Cut this song years later. She's cleaning people's bathrooms and gets the call that Letterman once loves. The song wants her to come perform it it on his show it was a classic example of artists being taking advantage of not being given any royalties Zahn songs bright being hired and and yes in the documentary. She talks about cleaning rich people's houses and hearing that song playing on the radio while she's like cleaning bathrooms right. I mean that must have been so. Surreal an awful and then finally was recognized sized for her contribution and work for that because of Letterman and yeah and I think she sang it on Christmas Eve on his show every year for years. And it's an incredible song. She's got an amazing voice. And just a feel good. Great Documentary thank you for highlighting that story in that documentary. My number or two is the classic a Christmas story. Don't tell me you haven't seen that one that one. Oh my goodness Oh yeah. Yeah the one that they play over and over. Yeah Ralphie Christmas story Christmas or yeah all the names of these songs songs and movies are so jared Blur Christmas. A Christmas story does that Ridge is. It reminds you of your childhood. Not that old. It takes place in the fifties eighties. No well maybe yeah maybe came. Came out in the eighties is just silly little Christmas yarn. It's a weird one but really what's your your number one number one holiday movie. My Number One holiday movie is so embarrassing national. Lampoon's Christmas vacation that you're number one. It's my number one. It reminds me of and it's one of those things where it just reminds me of people who aren't around anymore or who aren't close close physically anymore and it was a tradition to watch that movie and you know I think everybody struggles without during the holidays with you know not being with loved ones and missing somebody and that makes me miss people but also makes me Ed laugh and I really appreciate the sort of juxtaposition there. It balances out. I don't get too weepy. Yeah No it's a fun movie. We just watched it a couple apple nights ago actually and nineteen eighty nine. Yeah John Hughes Wrote and produced it didn't direct it There's a lot of fun. slapsticky sticky stuff in vintage Chevy Chase and Julia. Louis Dreyfuss Giulio Eastern Yuppie. Yes you gotTa love it which your number one. My number one right now is Elf Classic. We watch it every single year. Yeah it's always always fun and My daughter's favorite holiday movie and it's just a family tradition. We watched it last weekend. I love it I love Will Ferrell so funny and it makes you feel good at the end it does I got I cried everybody. Will they start singing. And then the a Santa like meter POPs up six citing Chris this Christmas spirit again. You need that right now. We do need a little extra juice juice on our San Tommaso or whatever right this year. That's a great choice Make sure you stay tuned till the very end because we have a special impeachment song that actually features my my wife. Melinda McGraw's beautiful vocals song. He won't WanNa miss that. We have a special episode. We're going to do a bunch of clips from our our previous interviews that you may or may not have heard the clip show. It's a clip show. It's a look back. Yeah but it's going to help you remember all the amazing things things that you've heard over the last eighteen weeks. It was so hard going back through these because I've learned so much from every single person we've had the pleasure to sit down with and he had some awesome guests some amazing guests. It's been really really inspiring to me and so I'm excited added for people to catch up on on these interviews. They haven't heard them already. Yeah we always envisioned. This is a very hopeful PODCAST and we do complain reign as everyone is want to do. Sometimes but we always end on a note of inspiration and so hopefully That's what people feel listening to S. and this is an important reminder and hopefully people will let us know what's giving them hope as they're going into twenty twenty as well. Yep We want to end this year. You're on a note of hope and inspiration all right so we talked to Cecile Richards in Las Vegas at the end of a a month. Long Bus tour that she was on the supermajority bus tour right and so she had been very reflective mood and so I'm excited for people to hear sure about what gives her hope which definitely gave me hope intern. Final question that we ask all of our guests is what gives you the most hope for the future future definitely young people and it was like she we were. We were in Denver a couple of days ago for one of the stops on the bus tour and we had the bench of young women there from Girls Inc and there was one young woman who was ten years old and she was explaining to me. I said well what do you do. And she said Oh i. I'm learning how to program brains of robots and went into this long explanation of exactly. I felt like okay uh-huh and but she she's just one example of this extraordinary new generation of young people and particularly young women. They just don't see the barriers and I hope that we can be here to support them and I always say to people if you're if you haven't organization and look around the table and if there aren't young people at the table you're not doing your job Because they are looking for voice. They're looking for opportunity. And there are best. Hope for change. And I'll close with this last. What my favorite statistics? There's about four million. Young people turn eighteen every year on average. And so if you think back in two thousand sixteen and just do the math by twenty twenty. There'll be about sixteen million young people who couldn't vote then an and can vote in two thousand twenty and as we know that was a presidential election decided by seventy seven thousand votes in three states so Investing young people. I had the pleasure of going to D. C. for a really cool event that swing left put on with Speaker Occur Pelosi and Billy Eichner and we got to announce at that event that billy eichner is joining the swing left team as a senior consultant. Yeah lack welcome to the team exactly and had a really fun interview with him and we get to hear what brings him. Hope what gives me. Hope is the idea that we will wake up. And trump will be president and think of the black cloud that will be lifted on that day which is not to say that problems will go away or all the stem although systemic issues and economic issues we deal with will magically disappear. Of course they want but I feel like with trump. There's just this ugly violent black dark cloud that hovers over everything since he won. You know what he does and and says really does have a really horrible impact and I really do feel if he gets a second term it could genuinely be catastrophic because thinking talking about what trump and his administration can do and they're not even worried about reelection is really frightening and that's enough to inspire people to get get involved and if you're just sitting back listening to this podcast. I listen to podcasts. You're in your car. You're getting dressed. You're going to bed and you're like Oh that was a nice podcast now. I'm GonNa go do my other things I have to do. That's not enough right. Like don't just listened to the PODCAST. Go to swing left. Go to the website. Get your friends together and and go canvassing get involved in whatever way you feel comfortable with but get involved because if you're not going to get involved now to try to defeat this guy then and you need to have a conversation with yourself about what your priorities are so That's my message. You talked to Harley Rueda in Orange County where he represents those folks in Congress and where he is in the fight of his bourgeoning congressional career to hang onto his seat so he really needs to be hopeful. It's got a lot of people rooting for for him so it was really helpful to hear him talk about what brought him. Hope when breeze me the most hope is the two thousand twenty election and the massive passive grassroots support that we have across the United States to make realistic change happen. I think America just wants to get back to regular order and unfortunately we don't have that with this president and if we hold the house pick up some seats Get at the White House and with a little luck the Senate it will be a good opportunity for our country to get back on track both for our citizens here as well as our allies around the world while we were in Las Vegas we had the opportunity to go to the presidential gun forum Mhm We got to sit down with some amazing people at the gun. Form including Senator Chris Murphy what an inspiring inspiring day. I learned so much about what's happened in the last seven years around this issue of gun violence and it really brought me a lot of hope. Yeah I mean these kids. Give me hope You know spending this week here in Las Vegas with these high school and college students who have woken up. I mean I'm just woken up on guns. They've woken up on climate change as well. It shouldn't be their responsibility right. I mean a twenty year. Old Kids shouldn't have to carry the weight of the world on their shoulders shoulders. But you know I'm a history buff and I know that there's no great successful social change movement in this country's history that wasn't lead in some way shape or form by young people and so now that young people are at the forefront of the climate movement and the Anti Gun violence movement. I feel more confident than ever before that. We're GONNA get this right. I wish they didn't have to but I know from reading the history books. This is ultimately how you get things done and I'm optimistic. Because I've seen the anti-gun bounce movement get stronger and stronger. I've seen Republicans get more more and more scared of us. I've seen the political process begin to work with the passage of the bill in the House of Representatives. I frankly wake up every single day. Super Optimistic about our ability to get not just. Is the background checks. Bill done but other comprehensive measures enacted so Lots of reasons to be optimistic about the future on this issue of saving bring lives inside his epidemic of Bounds Jennifer fs. Addison is the executive director of the Center for Popular Democracy and she came in I and spoke with us and the way that she was able to articulate things was very accessible and really smart and she gave me a lot of hope knowing knowing these people like her out there working in these communities that need it the most right. I think the thing that gives me the most hope is the bravery. Sorry that people have the power in their stories and just watching people kind of step out of the shadows right because when life is hard and you're struggling ogling nobody's a tougher critic on yourself than you are all right and people feel like. They made a bad choice or they may back decisions. That's why these things are happening. And so when they step out of that and they realize I'm not the only one is it's not my fault and I can change it. I can do something about it. Not just for me but for people oh like me everywhere that is just. There's nothing there the magic in that. There's like nothing else to describe it. So that's why I say to people don't just vote. Don't just donate money. Don't just even send text messages. Find a way to get into community what people find a way to be in relationship with the people who are putting it all on lineup changes country because you will be transformed and you will be the best advocate the best ally the Best Co conspirator in a Communist. Whatever you WANNA call it If you're actually in relationship with folks to mazing your Magic Jen. Congress member Karen Bass represents a big chunk of Los Angeles and it is the chair of the Congressional Black Caucus and she's really been an elected D- leader in the resistance movement from the beginning so I've learned a lot from her over the past few years and talking to her about the future was really exciting. You know. Ironically this guy I believe has been a catalyst for activism like. I haven't seen in a really long time right now. Ironically is that the worst thing that could have possibly happened after the last election but again when something like that happens you have to see what you can pull from it and I think that he has in inspired activists all down the line. Now it's our job to make sure that that gets sustained. So that's that's what gives me hope. Two thousand eighteen gives me hope twenty seventeen with all of the you know involvement yesterday's environmental march the young people people that are activating on on on guns. But it's our responsibility to make sure that that goes somewhere and are saying that as an elected official but it's all of our responsibilities you know we can't view changes will. I'm GonNa do this for a few years. The number to go back and you know it should be. It's a lot of countries around the world where they're much more political than we are. They know what's going on in our country and on their country and politics is just a part of their life. You don't have to do it full time in but you do have a responsibility to know. Your Congressperson is what your congressperson does. And let them know. You know what you like. And don't like in in propose ideas so so that's my hope that's my hope and for our last what gave us hope segment. We're ending with Jess Morales. Morales roof. Keto who recently named one of Time Magazine's one hundred most influential people. She is also one one of the directors of supermajority caught up with her in Vegas. It was actually I honestly. I didn't really know much about her and She was available for the interview. You and just blew us away. She has an incredible person. Go back and listen to this episode. y'All to me organising Israeli secret work. It's so incredible to be. I'm talking about this. It's so incredible to be able to feel so passionately about making a better place and then wake up every morning and know that you have a tools and skills community to make the world a better place I feel like that is such an incredible privilege And and it's very very exciting to then be able to share that with other other people. I think of organizing. It's motivating people into their purpose all day long. Just gotTa tell people about this awesome profession that they feel so lucky Guillermo and then get them excited to then they get people excited and so that is like the most hopeful thing especially these really work on theory difficult issues like family. Separation detention sexual assault worker's rights issues where we hear about women who have been sleeping on a cot in the Porch in Boston for twenty years and no one's and they will be able to be exploited because they were immigrants and you can look around I think right now and be angry and that anger kitten Like almost hold you back because it can feel like that anger can be righteous and helpful or and motivating or it can feel like I can put you into despair. It can be. There's nothing that we can do but what we've seen over the last couple of years also always is when people people got anger and put it into something that helps people notice and get people excited. Then you're creating like this regenerating any reading organism of hope and optimism encourage and that is like. Wow it's incredible that we are able to do. I feel so talk every single day and when you're like that get out of bed every morning ready to go So that was just like a smattering of hopeful. Messages from these amazing guests. We've had I've learned so much from from these folks like we. We've really put together. A Library of people who combined have just just amazing experience and ideas and advice at just so valuable. I hope people really do Go back and listen to some of those. I hope up. Everyone looks at it as a resource and And shares the interviews. That made the biggest impact on you. Share them with other people too and I'm excited about what's coming up in twenty twenty because we have a lot of really you know more great people coming on. We're also going to dive into some campaign skills. We're GONNA do some deeper dive into some of these super states and do some state specific stuff. there's going to be all kinds of great information about how you can get a vault involved. Be Effective and make a difference on the most important election of our lives. It's going to be a big year and it's going to be a lot of fun and it's going to be a lot of hard work. 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Politics with Amy Walter: Iran, Impeachment, and Iowa

The Takeaway

31:16 min | 9 months ago

Politics with Amy Walter: Iran, Impeachment, and Iowa

"Politics with Amy Walter from the takeaway. We have Birdie and Nancy Pelosi. We have them all. They're all trying to say. How dare you take him out? That way. You should get permission from Congress you as you come in and tell us what you wanted to justice we will lead into Vietnam and Iraq by lies. The trump administration is misleading us on Iran if there was an imminent threat required this extraordinary action. We're owed an explanation. And when one American Life was lost at at the hands of Iranian backed militias. Just a few short weeks ago. President trump launched the first air strikes. What are the messages we received from? The briefers was do not debate. Do not discuss the issue of the appropriateness of further military intervention against Iran. But if you do you'll be emboldening. Aranda play this game with Wolf. Bowers Magenta designed constitutional is really mean to or not empowering I find find this insulting and demeaning. I had calls from numerous senators. Numerous Congressmen and Women Sang. It was the greatest presentation they've ever had. They produced adduced no evidence that were justified. His claim not even any classified the radical Democrats have never been more extreme than they are right now they are stone cold crazy. It's stunning and the president to say. Oh I am for me by reading my tweets. No that's not the relationship that our founders had in mind. What is the response that the president of the United States should make and what advances the United States of America more and more chaos more and more instability? We live in a diverse world. So yes a house. Majority can create at this temporary cloud over commander in chief if they choose but they do not get to clout in place for holding definitely upsetting some of it back and that will probably be who stick together and their vicious vicious horrible. They don't dressing as I'm saying this. You know they want crime they want some say all this stuff then I say gee now I sort of understand why they hate me the week that was about ninety seconds there backdrop for everything else happening in politics including the Democratic primary of of course tensions with Iran and the impeding impeachment trial in the Senate are coming at a time when Democratic candidates for president are racing the clock in an effort to sell themselves to primary voters after all. We're just about three weeks away from the Iowa caucuses and from there it's an all out sprint until March third Super Tuesday joining me discuss all things things in the race for the White House are stent herndon national political reporter for the New York Times. I often how are you. Good and clear Malone senior political writer at five thirty eight. Pay Great to be here. All right Claire. Let's start with you. Politics of course is about responding to the moment and the moment seems to be focused right now on run Ron. Yes so what does this mean for the Democratic Primary Cirilli interesting shakeup. I mean in some ways I think the conventional wisdom that this is good for her Joe Biden is true right. It's the idea that You Know Joe Biden is making making the pitch. Since he got into the race. That the reason why you would want put him in as his wife. Jill said you might like someone better. But he's the best guy for the job and for the time and so the fact that he has tons of foreign policy experience that that's the reason why Barack Obama chose him to be his vice president. He can Paul that up now and say look at me. I'd be a steady hand the till and you see other people. You know Buddha judge kind of struggling a little bit to say well I served in the military. That's something right. I was part of these. I was the literally the troops on the ground during this too long war. I kind of understand the ethos working through the country of we don't want another foreign entanglement but I I do think it's pretty good for Biden but it also puts sanders in an interesting position as A. I never voted for the Iraq war. Well that's what I wanted. I said if you can talk to that because it it does seem like now we have. We're back to where we kind of have been since two thousand and eight with one side of the Democratic Party whose was supportive of the Iraq war war and the other side whether it was barack. Obama now Bernie Sanders saying I was the one who stood up against this terrible decision in Iraq. This kind of a bringing back right. All old is new again and it's bringing back the primary to the place in which started in which it was the thought that Joe Biden the person with the most name recognition. The person at the top of the national polls would go up against Bernie Sanders who was leading the kind of progressive insurgent weighing. And obviously coming out of a race in two thousand sixteen in which he impressed and Bernie Sanders tried to use this moment to nationalized primary to make it about him versus Joe Biden once again. You have Warren. You have Buddha judge who look good in Iowa and early states and and could really complicate those twos path but what they are both trying to do right now is look at each other and then a chance to bring it past. Asked Iowa New Hampshire because they know once it gets to Nevada once it gets to South Carolina once it gets to California those are places they feel a little better about and they kind of want to make this about. After two ideologically rigid polls Bernie Sanders is doing that with Iran through his kind of antiwar vision laying out kind of rigid framework that Not only is this about this moment. But it's about the United States willingness for intervention and that The future presidents have just a bigger posture towards a no-holds-barred. Oh holds barred now never going imposter. Non Interventionist posture that he is kind of alone and articulating that clearly. We've Seen Elizabeth Warren tried to move a little. Oh closer to that after the death of Sola Mani but he he's been the one who's been articulating that vision for for decades. Well let's talk about that. That for a moment. Claire this the the Bernie Biden piece of this. I mean you look at the Democratic Party and you say this is a party that is built on a base of women voters voters of color and young people and too old white dudes are leading in the polls in the primary how How did we get to this place? I mean the the shorthand term has become electability right which is a euphemism for people want a candidate or Democratic primary voters have sort of since the beginning said we KINDA WANNA candidate that can win over those frankly white Obama trump voters basically like six swing states so people are being have been pretty frank since the beginning of the primary season when they're saying it's not the time to as Elizabeth Warren would say you know undergo a wholesale structural change. We just want someone who's kind of a transition figure who gets us back to A steady place and and I think it's. It's an interesting time in the party because there are you know to go back to the the Sanders Biden split over foreign policy. I mean a lot of people have said look at Sanders position on Israel. Look at. It's very there's maybe within the Democratic Party almost two who different parties right so the idea of ASEAN Sanders articulating vastly different policy views on foreign policy and domestic policy. And then you've got you know the Biden Pelosi camp where where it's progressive on police part but more establishment leaning and so I think that establishment leaning sentiment is winning out among Democratic primary voters In part because you know there are a little bit. I think freaked out by electing by nominating a woman Elizabeth Warren or nominating someone. WHO's gay and WHO's inexperienced in? Buda judge people just aren't sure about how the identity politics of those candidates are going to play out in those six swing states where white voters are very important. I said you wrote a about out this with in reflection to Bernie Sanders and why no other candidate Elizabeth. Warren early was seen as that candidate who may be could undercut hot Bernie's hold with more progressive voters more liberal voters with young voters or maybe people to judge somebody else who is new Shinier are different and yet he still held on including winning over the sunrise movement this week which has young climate activists. How did that Ed? How did that happen? We've seen in the last five months the left wing of the party. Really coalesce around Bernie Sanders. I think that was not inevitable. At the beginning of the race you had a a pretty open mind from these groups who were trying to push on their issues more frankly and weren't sure they were gonNA get in behind the specific candidate. It started to change one's Working Families Party endorsed Elizabeth Warren that kind of shook up the left wing universe and then you had a really critical month and a half now Warren. Who was riding high at that point it comes under increased scrutiny? Around Medicare for all Bernie. Sanders gets the endorsement of Alexandra Cossio Cortez. Ilhan Omar Rashid to leave As he's bouncing back from that heart heart attack and then he starts doing little things. He embraces decriminalization a at the border and And back a temporary moratorium on deportations activist the risk groups love that he goes He starts talking more about his rigid kind of safe. One Medicare For all vision. He started doing the things that made them love him in twenty twenty sixteen and doing it so explicitly that it kind of brought them back and so you had a center for Popular Democracy People's action and now sunrise the big kind love a grassroots groups. Decide that okay. We're GONNA take what working family says and get in this primary. We're just GONNA do it for Bernie Over Elizabeth Warren. I think that's really true with young people the polls tell us that young voters are with Bernie at like fifty percent margin. That's that is incredible seeing that there is millennials in the race. There's another progressive in the race. And they're still backing Bernie. I think it speaks to name recognition that the ass from the twenty sixteen race holdover but also speaks to just the the ideology of young folks. It wasn't about just coolness it wasn't about viral illness. It was about real progressive ideals and wanting big disruption and. He's still the candidate. Are they. Promises the most of that Bernie's. Og Liberal exactly yeah. There's no-one can compare clear. Another thing that's happened this week on. The Democratic Front is is candidates rolling out their big endorsements so we talked about Bernie Sanders with the Sun Rise Movement Who in Castro coming in endorsing Elizabeth Warren in came to New York? Yeah I think you were there at that event and then Eric Garcetti. The Los Angeles Mayor Endorsing Joe Biden. Do these mean anything thing and why do why do campaigns roll them out. What do they think they're going to get from some of these endorsements I mean? I think Castro endorsing Warren is the most interesting one in part. Because because it's another candidate coming out and saying you know what I talked to a lot of voters in all these states and they would say I like Elizabeth Better. She's my number one choice so some of it is just another another candidate endorsing you. That's a big big deal. I think with Warren the Castro endorsement comes at an interesting time for her. She's a little bit flat lining in some of the polls people are saying Yikes I don't know if she's sort of shot herself in the foot with her healthcare flip flop and bring on Castro as surrogate a pretty high profile surrogate. I mean you know out there at that rally in in in Brooklyn which is a very very friendly crowd for Warren Brooklyn has the kind of demographics tend to like Elizabeth Warren. That area of Brooklyn You know the Northern Area of Brooklyn is a lot of white college educated voters so they were out in force you know. Let's go back to Ted Cruz. In the 2016 Republican primary. He was kind of of struggling a bit in the primary and he decided you know he didn't expect trump to come out of anywhere and so he said you know what I'm GonNa shake things up I'm GonNa Make Carly Fiorina my VP nominee Omni. And you're gonNA know who the ticket is before we get to the convention you know it's not out of the realm of possibility for Elizabeth Warren to say hey you know who could who could would round out my ticket. Pretty well A younger man. Who is Latino who put some states in the south west of the United States on the electoral map map kind of increases my ability You know I have a great surrogate out there in Nevada who can UPS votes so I think for for war and I'm more interested in in it as a is this her way to kind of jump. Start the last month before voting starts right well. We have a long way to go. I can't wait to continue tenue to talk to you. Guys about it had heard from the New York Times Claire Malone from fivethirtyeight. Thank you guys both for coming in today appreciate it. Thank you and we now move onto. Iran and to what the killing of General Qassam Soleimani means for domestic politics in in Iran as well as for the United States with tensions now seemingly cooled. I asked the Nasi combativeness senior fellow at the century foundation to give us a lay the land from the Iranian perspective. These are relatively long and slow moving process. He's not responding to public opinion. The way we might imagine our the government does in the United States in a lot of ways they steer and control public opinion and and they have their own internal debates even within the hardliner community of Iran Ron about how how forward to lean in and how much intervention to be doing in the region. And that's something that's GonNa be litigated in in in the coming months and for Iran the big crisis predates the assassination is the sanctions and the US is among other things has listed the central Central Bank of Iran as a terrorist entity. Which makes it nearly impossible for a rod operate in the international economy That is a major ongoing crisis assists internally for the country that's part of what led to the protests A few months ago that we're the biggest news from around until this the biggest news And and that's something that There what they want is to either normalize or at least find a way to regain regain access to international financial systems global markets to be able to sell their oil to be able to function as state With nearly a hundred million population relation and a lot of their own domestic political economic and social needs. So can this though if if you are thinking about this from the perspective active of the trump administration or US interests. Can this actually bring the Iranians to the table to renegotiate. The Iran nuclear clear deal does the killing of Solomon and the the sanctions more pressure on sanctions. Do much for that in my read I I think no. There's there's been we've had several years now of testing of of trump's hypothesis to the extent that this was a a conscious strategy in the the sort of maximum pressure strategy evacuate Iran into a corner It has in some ways weakened Iran's technical ability to do certain things but it hasn't affected even it hasn't even minimally affected their disruptive USA proxies to destabilize the region it has has not changed their position on any of the issues that the United States had in negotiations with them from the nuclear file to the use of missiles to our involvement in Yemen. Enough and other places in fact what has happened. Decisively is We we've broken out into a much more alarming being a state of confrontation and if the goal was deterrence it has achieved the exact opposite. I mean until a week ago. Go through all the cycles of conduct in the US and Iran one of the red lines that everyone had observed is the two nations had never directly attacked each other even over more more than a decade of Of indirect conflict on the battlefields of Iraq. As of this week we have a shocking Shift to a new space in which the United States is able and willing to to directly kill senior Iranian government officials in which Iran is firing openly from Iran on missiles at American targets. So this is the opposite of deterrence. help us understand where Iraq fits into all of this and the call this week from the Iraqi Iraqi Prime Minister to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to talk about withdrawing. US troops so Iraq is This is one of the most tragic consequences of this of this. US policy in this sort of needless escalation Iraq was for the first time since the US invasion in two thousand the three heading in a positive direction The government was was sort of a weak government but was trying to find Find a way forward after finally only overcoming Isis and there's this really inspiring protest movement. That has been going on for months. That was among other things calling for Iraq to you operate as a real sovereign nation without taking orders from either Iran or the United States. So these were in my view very positive the developments for Iraq and then there as recently as as the fall and saw the country really poised to enter a new and healthier stage H. Now what's happened is all all that Potential has been sacrificed on the altar of an American confrontation policy with with Iran. The United States is now in a position where even those Iraqis who would like the United States to stay there and help them fight. Isis and otherwise offer. Security are unable unable find themselves unable to defend the US presence So half the country is electrified against the US and the half that would like the US to stay if anything is just a balancing hedge against Iranian interference are politically unable to do it because they would look like traders so in all likelihood that US either gonNA leave entirely or find its presence there Very very minimal And that's going to be great for Isis. which is in the process process of trying to make a comeback and it's going to be great for Iran which throughout this time has been using? It's quite malign proxies and allied militias in Iraq To do all kinds of various things including two to kill unarmed protesters who were calling for reform. Let's talk about what we're honey has to be thinking about going forward when we're thinking about the disruption internally to the R. Z.. As well as his own sort sort of internal the internal political domestic concerns. It's really important to understand that there will be very little practical will impact of this killing on rounds capacity as as a state it is a international military actor. There's of course a great symbolic importance. The Iran feels that sovereignty has been has been Peterson Trespass. This famous well loved figure was killed But there's no operational capacity capacity of Iran's that's going to be compromised or lost because of this killing and terms of around sort of political momentum I think the assassination helps The hardest line factions the leadership the parts of the I. R. G. C. N. Supreme Leader's constituency that we're facing criticism for Iran's adventurism adventurism abroad for people in around asking. Why are we spending money and time and treasure intervening in Yemen and Lebanon and Syria Iraq? When we can't afford fruit it home and gas prices are going up? All those constituencies inside Iran are today going to be either rallying around the flag or at at a minimum. We're GONNA feel politically pressured to silence their criticism Asi combined. Thank you so much for coming in. Take you the Nasi combat. This is the senior fellow at the Century Foundation. It's politics with Amy Walter on the takeaway. We move now from the dynamic within Iran in the Middle East. The one here at home president trump's decision to go ahead with the air strike that killed Soleimani has reignited debate in Congress about war powers a declaration of war or an MFA is what the Constitution requires and drive by notification. Lame briefings like the one we received aren't adequate. It's stunning and the president to say. Oh I am for me by reading my tweets. Now that's not the relationship that our founders had in mind play this game with a port war powers at which I think is unconstitutional. Is that what you mean to or not. You're empowering denim non Thursday Eh. House voted in favor of the war powers resolution to limit the president's ability to take further military action against Iran. I sat down with Andrew Clovinger a staff writer et seq.. You roll call to find out what exactly the House resolution says and where we go from here. The resolution would require the White House to get congressional final approval before it could initiate a major conflict with Iran so essentially ask permission from Congress before declaring war and entering into a kind of a third major major conflict in the Middle East but it was done via a concurrent resolution and that measure does not have the force of law so even if it does is passed the Senate which is as yet undetermined. It is not legally binding on the president right. So why do this at all. Why if you're passing something that has no legal binding on the president? I take it up. Well the the messaging is very important and I think what what Congress is trying to say to the president is look you do not have a blank. Check to start a new war in the Middle East and think very carefully before you allow things thanks to escalate to the point where we're committing a lot of troops and treasure to a new conflict. Is this also a way for Democrats to be able to say we. You put a check on the president. But we're not totally tying his hands in other words if especially for Democrats may be who are in more conservative districts that they don't look as if they are saying we are trying to to limit the ability of a president to protect the country. I think that's part of it Part of it is also very Complicated parliamentary procedure and and what can get transmitted directly to the Senate versus versus what is open to a motion to recommit which complicates things a lot on the house side on the Senate side. We know that there have been at least a couple of Republican. Republican senators who've been critical of the president's decision in Iran but it seems as if any resolution in the Senate is not going to get a majority support. Well it doesn't take much to get a majority support When you have forty seven Democrats and plus the two Republican Girardi at forty nine so you really only need to Republicans to join them? In that measure and last year resolutions that would limit the presence since War Power Abilities in Iran and Yemen Passed Senate but they didn't do so with a enough of a majority authority to override. The veto and the president vetoed the Yemen provision which passed both chambers and the vote on Iran was an amendment to the annual defense policy bill and it didn't meet the sixty vote threshold to be adopted in attached to that bill. Is there anything whether in the house or the Senate that could conceivably tie the president's hands in dealing with Iran going forward it. It doesn't look like there's that kind of force of will or political will attached to these efforts right now because to really check the president. In in a practical sense you would need veto proof majorities and these measures. Just don't have that at this point. Congress is trying to communicate the sense of. It's it's will. It's trying to claw back a little bit of authority when it comes to declaring war and having the say over who can declare war in this country but in practical terms these measures aren't really going to change the state of play. Talk to us a little bit about the role that Congress is supposed to to play in authority to declare war and Congress has in the not so distant past reasserted its authority in Nineteen seventy-three seventy-three passed the war powers resolution and yet it doesn't seem as if at least in recent years Congress had much say at all in what let the White House with the president has decided to do militarily it's pretty straightforward as laid out in the constitution right so the president the commander-in-chief and he makes the decisions about what what the military should do but the Congress has the authority to raise an army and to fund it and to declare war against other nations that model suited us. Pretty well in the When the the country was new and for many years afterwards but but now we're lining up against a another nation and formally declaring war and shooting at each other at the same time the way that we used to in the revolutionary war? In those those days there are a lot of grey areas. I mean if you do a drone strike is that a declaration of war If you if you do a covert action. That's counter-terrorism is that a declaration of war were not necessarily engaged in direct conflict nation to nation. This does way we we traditionally were back in in olden days. So so that's why the constitution isn't as clear as it might be in nineteen seventy-three in Congress said look you really need Our permission to declare war. We're clawing back this authority We WanNa make this this clear that it declaration of war and initiating these kind of conflicts should come from US further. Complicating things is Supreme Court case that followed In in the eighties. That said well. Congress shouldn't really have veto powers and act in the negative contacts in the affirmative. By saying. Here's what you can do do. It doesn't really say you know you can't do this unless you come to us. So there's a supreme court case that says that and there's an argument over over whether you can't declare war unless you come to us as described in the war powers resolution of nineteen seventy-three is even constitutional. Then we have this thing called the a. m. f. which this was it response to the attack on nine eleven. Explain what that is so this is what the war powers resolution envisioned is. If there's an attack on America as there was on nine eleven Congress comes together and and says okay. Let's act And that's via vehicle known as an authorization for use of military force or a UMF in two thousand one. Congress passed one authorizing the Bush administration to go after The perpetrators of nine eleven and and in Afghanistan in two thousand and two they. They passed another resolution authorizing the Bush administration to go after Saddam Hussein in Iraq so that is fairly straightforward but what Congress did not do is put a time limit. On those so those are sort of open ended authorizations that the Bush administration and and and frankly every administration since have used to justify military actions all over the place so at the end of the day Andrew do you. I think that there will actually be vote in the house on either a new. UMF or getting rid of it altogether. I think there will be a vote. On what an A. M. F. for Iran should look like and whether they want to require the administration nation to seek one before for Esscalation I think there will be a vote on possibly repealing the two thousand and two F. in the near future but again the the way forward for those is pretty murky and complicated by the fact that the Senate is unlikely to Support support either those those steps in the same way that houses. It's further complicated by the political moment. We're in and that's with impeachment hanging over The president in terms of getting something through the Senate that the the fact that a trial is pending further complicates things and makes it harder to get something. Something passed because the second. The articles of impeachment are transmitted that takes priority for the Senate's time. So that's what the Senate will be doing for the foreseeable future until the trial is resolved. Andrew Klavan jurors thank you so much for coming in and speaking with me today. My pleasure for being here in Iran Impeachment Peach Mint Iowa all three are dominating the political agenda at this moment but we also know we live in a time where new cycles have gotten shorter and shorter be groundbreaking groundbreaking events are replaced sometimes instantly by other ones so none of us really know what is or isn't breaking through with voters and interestingly enough the more overwhelmed we get with information the more likely it's simply reinforces views. We already hold rather than change opinions but while it seems as if the Democratic Primary Moore has been going on for ever been about eight months many Democratic primary voters are just starting to really pay attention so impressions they get in these. The next couple of weeks are big deal and can determine who wins and who loses in these early contests. The show is produced by Amber Hall. Patricia Gabe job and Priscilla ally. Our Board operator and engineer is Debbie Daughtry J. cow it is our sound designer and director polly Iruma was digital editor. David Gable well is our executive assistant and special. Thanks LE- Hill. Thanks for listening. This is politics with Amy Walter from the takeaway. We'll see next week

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The Culture of Wealth

Slate's The Gist

24:17 min | 1 year ago

The Culture of Wealth

"The following recording. May contain explicit language. I can't get more explicit than may let you say it may. It's Tuesday February fifth two thousand nineteen from slate. It's the gist. I'm Mike Pasqua. It has been widely inaccurately reported that Donald Trump does not know how a dog works some examples. Eric Erickson got fired like dogs read statement Romney had his chance to meet a failed president. But he choked dog Gregory fired like dog Lynn backfire dog Reverend Wright dumped like dog by Barack Obama. But there is another holder of high office. Oh, not as high who has he fundamental misunderstanding of how a fairly simple thing works. He's the governor of my state New York, a fellow by the name of Cuomo Andrew Cuomo and the thing he does not understand is upon a few months ago. We on the gist collected some of his utterances, which he said, we're puns, but clearly were not puns to wit, which is a toast that I would not use for Andrew Cuomo. But back then I highlighted this statement as read by former gist producer who was. Since poached by what next excellence late show, still smarts to loser. Mary wilson. Anyway, here's Mary reading a direct quote that Andrew Cuomo gave this is an important topic. It's a hotly debated topic. Pardon the pun, and it'd be nice to have some facts in the middle of the debate. Once in a while. No Bonn now today. Andrew Cuomo was on radio station WNYC with Brian Lehrer and said this Donald Trump's divisive tax reform plan that he put into effect, and I've been talking about this until I'm blue in the face board and upon not upon not a just not upon. And I wanna thank Alertus listener Mark door for tweeting that to me. So now, I know thank you Mark door for alerting us to that open and shut case which is upon upon that hinged on Mark doors last name door, which is also upon but while Cuomo said is not upon now. I want to make an offer to Andrew. Cuomo. If he does ever get a pun, right? I will pay him one pound British sterling, let us call it a quid pro quo, which is also technically not upon but an extremely clever play on words on the show today. I should feel about the state of the union guests, but I Lauren greenfield is a photographer and documentarian who has been chronicling the ultra wealthy in Los Angeles. And they're discontents. She's been added so long. She has pictures of a twelve year old Kim Kardashian when strength of the Kardashian brand was that the dad was slightly infamous in Lauren Greenfield's new documentary generation wealth. She looks back at decades of work, and finds that the rich do get richer, but not anymore content. From sleep a show about philosophy that turns stories into ideas modern manager foam of deception the best description of what gender is is. That is a cage. Maybe we should just outsource this entire war after two seasons. Hi fi nation is coming to slate for season three with all new episodes starting on January thirty first that's H I P H I nation. You can find it wherever you get your podcasts. Asian philosophy in story form. Lauren. Greenfield is a photographer filmmaker. And yeah, a sociologist she made the documentary about the largest privately owned single family dwelling in America, the Queen of Versailles. Her other films include thin kids in money, hashtag like a girl, and she has a new book and new movie that's out on Amazon prime called generation wealth. She has been chronicling the rich and the ultra rich and the nouveau rich and the wanna be rich. But don't know how to get there since she grew up amongst them. Hello, lauren. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for having me. So I we haven't met before this moment. But I looked back at your career. And I've seen a few of your documentaries before tell me from wrong at some point you set yourself. It will be nice to have a trilogy of documentaries called thin rich and pretty yesterday. You're much good idea. A good idea. It's kind of an on the nose idea. So I think you can never be too rich or too thin. That's cpa. This thing about that. Is you can never be too rich or too thin? No one believes the too thin thing. Now. I mean, I mean, the people you chronicled who have anerexia, but even they wouldn't consciously believe it right to my wife. My wife that you can definitely see that. You can be too thin, and you can be too rich and too much of anything is probably not a good idea. Let's talk about that. I think that you can be too thin because obviously you'll starve to death. But can you be too rich you deal with a lot of people who can't handle their richness or can't handle the quest for richness or think they can? But you may be show they can't. But what about the people who seem to be using it? Well, what about the people who don't talk to you because they're they're well adjusted? They don't need what you're bringing to them, which is some sort of outlet. I mean Ginny Bloomberg or Jordan Schultz. Right. The Cyons of these great billionaires seem well adjusted. I mean, I can't speak for the people that I didn't interview are photograph or film, but I can say that as a culture, and as a society when there's this much any quality has a negative effect. Also on the economy. Yes. But I think one of the categories you mentioned the. Wannabes? But in a way, that's what this whole series. And film is about is the wannabes that they're one percent are represented in the work because they have a huge huge influence on the culture. But most of the people in the film, the book are not from the one percent. And what I really chronicled is this aspirational kind of cycle of addiction that crosses class crosses race crosses age crosses border and ended up going to seventeen countries. And how kind of all in the cycle of wanting more and never having enough. Don't some people get it. Right. Like wouldn't have gone to those. It's not as if every hedge fund billionaire goes to those excesses, and therefore not every head front billionaire or disgraced hedge fund billionaire gets disgraced and has to have the come to Jesus moment. Of course, it's much more interesting to capture them on film in the movie the ones that do. Well, of course, I mean and the movie and the book is not about money being bad. I'm not saying. Rich pollute on advertisement for money being good. It's more about how where it comes from that. There's a kind of what you see with all the characters is it's not just about money. It's also about beauty or image or sexuality or fake it till you make it or youth. Everybody's trying to have something. They can't have and trying to be something that can't be. And the thing about that game. Is you're never satisfied no for flooring in its money. But for Kathy at surgery, an as right? And as you say about a lot of your character. I think you used the word currency youth could be currency beauty can be currency. And it's a commodity what's currency, but a commodification of what should be. I mean, you're not as heavy handed it with your message as I am being now, but it should be more of a human, and you may in values, and when you see the rest of the world, so you've got to China and Manila, there, aping American culture, the excesses of American capitalism, and that was really the motivation for this project is kind of. Looking back over the twenty five years and seeing in the pictures evidence of a kind of fundamental shift in the culture where the American dream had gone from something that valued hard work, and maybe giving her kids a better life. Also connected to stability and community to something that was more about bullying and celebrity and narcissism. Yes. Although I wonder if we really were meticulous about it. Was there ever a time? When it wasn't thus. I mean, it seems to me that the you could write this about the gilded age, and there was no documentarian there. But there was Trollop. Right. You could write this about or Edith Wharton. You great this out every age that there seems to be this, you know, Gatsby in the green light. It's the same themes over. I think that there are similarities between this in the gilded age. And I tried to reference that in the movie and the book, there's a heavy use of gold. There's in their lives. There is not one guy's thirty four pounds of gold on his chest. Exactly. There's a CNN. Of lake dancing on gold glitter. But I think the thing that's different now. And what I saw happen over the twenty five years is it's like everything amplified on steroids that one of the things started when I began this journey was the beginning MTV in that kind of homogenization of youth culture and ubiquity of materialistic values across class across race. And that has blown up with the media blowing up, and then was social media. So well, I guess an anthropologist needs to be an outsider who ingratiates herself as an insider. So you weren't strictly doing anthropology. How did your entree or how did your knowledge of this subculture understand that it it got you access? But did it anyway, hurt or obscure what you were looking at the thing? Well, first of all, I would say, and and my mom definitely agree that I'm not an anthropologist like I would be ending without a license. I work in a way more. Like part journalism part are part. Anthropology influence. We'll here's my question is, but knowing what you know about them and probably saying, oh, this is normal were there times where you had you realize had to force yourself to say this isn't normal. This is something to take or this would be perhaps noticed notable by someone without my associations. And assumptions I mean, I think what I leaned into was actually my knowledge of the world. And I think that actually made me a better documentarian Uva, and I had always been kind of an insider at an outsider and not I tried to explain that. Also in the film that when I was little and I went to a very fancy private school. My parents were they didn't let me have all that stuff and they couldn't afford it anyway. And so I kind of fit in but dint and had one of the things that the other kids had and at the same time new not only should they not be important. But that I had everything I needed like there was no less than and yet. I felt that. And I think. That is the kind of trick of capitalism in marketing that I tried to relate explore that work is it better. I would think I mean, you know, there's just my priors to be a little more subtle. But maybe you could make the argument that it's better not to be repressed or you have these scenes in the strip club. Maybe. Well, what's the opposite of that? Like keeping all of our base instincts. Under wraps. You know, Saudi Arabia. Does that it's not like it's not like they don't have extreme wealth and the excesses of extreme wealth in Saudi Arabia. But they also don't have the conspicuous public in sumptious. So maybe I don't know what the lesson there is. But if in one of your one of the theories or one of the feces in the movie as you study, the extremes to tell you about the culture there other cultures which don't have those extremes. And yet the culture seems to have something going on at its core. That's pretty interesting. I mean, I think what we I think that in a way we've kind of lost sight of our values in this that in a. Away success and even material wealth used to be an expression of your contribution in some way. And now, it's like, however, you get there as long as you have it. It's like it's like the Kardashian affect like as long as you have this incr- and the porn star avenue talks about this as long as you have this lifestyle of fame and wealth. It doesn't matter how you got there. And if you don't have it fake, it till you make it, and it's so important that you see, you know, somebody like future or a little magic talks about it with magic city in in the film about you spend the money, even if you don't have it because it's just all about the image. And in a way that kind of ideology is kind of what got us to the financial crash, which is where I started. Right. I guess it's all an overcrowded into something that was probably wrong in the beginning. Which is what is it the one hundred and lady Astor and the idea that the? These were the money to families of New York we've made a list of them. And then it doesn't matter how you've made your money. Even if it's by inventing, something genius. You're never going to be able to go into high society. So there was this over correction to that. And now we're witnessing in a way. That's why this project comes from. Because when I grew up in LA by first project was about the French aristocracy that's in the book, and I went there, and I was so surprised to learn about a class where there were elite without money having grown up in LA money was the only class differentiation. I think the tragedy now, and what the charge in the movie is an and in what the work shows is that we've never had so little social, mobility and so much inequality. So the idea of this fantasy is really just that the it's a fantasy. And so in a way this fictional, social, mobility, like Blang is the only social mobile. That is in fails within reach. But don't you think because this how I think that I don't have the money. But don't you think that there is a way to get cultural cachet without the money and spy, do it's by engaging in interesting work. I don't even mean just for us. But look at what you do. And you and your husband have started, you know, this girl culture films, which is developing films and TV products from female directors. Okay. I don't know if you're making millions or billions, and you're definitely making less than a lot of the people in your movie, but don't you have cultural cachet in the world that you care about not about a world that you don't care. I mean, I think the important thing is that you see in the movie that these chasing of these goals like money, actually doesn't bring happiness and satisfaction. And what really does bring those things are connection with family and friends and love and also work meaningful work, so in the movie explore how even with that you might need balance. But for me doing. Meaningful work, and kind of focusing on that does give me a little bit of an antidote to feeling that Paul of generation wealth, and I made a viral spot that was on at the Super Bowl a few years ago called like a girl, and it was a three minutes spot that kind of changed the meaning of those words, it ended up being seen by over two hundred million people, and it was really exciting to see what kind of social impact that could have. And so that's that was kind of the beginning of thinking about this girl culture films company, which we just launched today, which is representing a roster of female directors for commercials and branded content. You ask your mom, some pretty tough but open ended in fair questions in this. If one day Noah, and what your other son's name abriel grow up to do essentially what you do and ask you the same questions. Would you be okay with it? And be what would you say? Well, in a way, this movie was turnabout about fair play for me because I want. Yes. I realized that I needed to be in it because I was going through things that in a way had commonalities with my subjects. I went in thinking. My work depends on this very intimate. Sharing of my subjects. Not always looking their best, and I had to be willing to be in that same position. And so I do have tough conversation with my mom, but no also has have conversations with me. And know at one point says that I wasn't around enough when he was young. And and that the damage was done. But yeah, perfect ACT score. What is one with the other? I don't know this. He didn't shake her. I was really sad because I haven't Cronin's kid. Get a perfect ACT score. You didn't know when he got that score didn't even call me. And so I mean, I think that was what I was kind of interested in is like showing in a away what we pass on not even. Consciously and also how we can wake up from like that movie. Does have hope Noah says now, our relationship has improved as a result of the movie, and these conversations generation wealth is the name of the film and the book the filmmaker is Lauren greenfield she and her partner. Frank Evers have also launched the girl culture films, which is a production company that reps a list directors for commercial projects and films. And and the last thing I'm going to say if you want to watch a film that contains the quote, I'd like to keep on Jane. But I also love lizards. This is the film for you. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you. Now, the spiel the state of the union is a chance for the president to lay out his agenda to use the apparatus of state in the trappings of the setting to make an affirmative case for where he wants to go and buy implicate to give props to democracy itself. Here's how the White House understands that props human props. Oh, it's not just the White House. Nancy Pelosi is bringing four union heads five anti-gun activists celebrity chef Jose Andreas who celebrity is refusing to feed the beast as her guests an undocumented worker recently fired by Trump golf club will be the guest of Representative Bonnie Watson Coleman is that really smart. The one thing we know about this woman is that she's in this country illegally, and you're putting her in the same room as Donald Trump and Stephen Miller three think that Alexandria. Oh, Cossio Cortez is inviting Anna Maria are Chila. The woman who got Jeff flake to change his mind on the elevator. The only thing is is that how it happened. According to this American life Zoe chase the first thing I want to talk about is the elevator. Okay. It's a big story. How Jeff flake changed his mind because two women accosted him on an elevator. I'm here to tell you. That's not a true story. That's not what changed his mind. I was there right behind the women yelling. That woman was our Chila. And she may have achieved some form of heroism for an act that actually didn't have the impact. Some people think it did but calls her a Shiro for her. Life's work in general, which is that she's a community organizer and the co executive director of the center for popular democracy action. This brings us to the White House in announcing their guests. They put out a press release calling these people who've they've invited quote, the very best of America. They represent the very best of America. That is the full quote here. The first three people on the list listed as the very best of America. Among the special guests invited by the president. And first lady are three family members of Jerry and Sherry David. That's the Reno couple who was murdered in their south Truckee meadows home last month, the accused suspect Wilbur or Nesta Martinez. Gu's men were told is an illegal. Migrant the daughter granddaughter and great granddaughter of murder victims that is what makes them the very best of America. Now, look their story is sad. I don't question their grief. I don't question their anger, or if their grief and anger convince them to serve as human props, of course, the policy that their presence supports is the mass deportation of millions of people, which would of course, 'cause a lot of grief and anger. But I literally am not being snide. I don't blame these people at all. But what I will say to you hear what no one else will say is that being related to people who are murdered and being particularly vengeful against the class of person. Who is the accused murderer does not make you the very best. It makes you human. It is understandable. It is not laudable. It is not the most laudable when all the serious in toners who cover the state of the union show, these people or if they are mentioned in the. Speech itself atone of solemnity will attend to their circumstance, you will know that this is all nonsense. I bet most of the series in toners will know that it's nonsense. But no one will feel emboldened to call out the nonsense as nonsense or to call out Trump's use of these human props as fundamentally in you main. Perhaps some observers will know to dry, but true statistic about how immigrants time and time again in study after study or shown to be less inclined to crime than the native born population. And maybe they will dare to say that. But they will not dare to say what I am going to say next, which is this in this context in the service of Trump's agenda. These three generations of burder victim offspring are not sympathetic. They are propaganda. Then we get to this little guy. Joshua's father says the eleven year olds last name is causing problems. He was getting ridiculed and bullied for the fact that his last name was Trump. Yes, Joshua's last name is Trump again. Sorry. Joshua Trump sorry for the bullying, you shouldn't have to put up with that. Guess what your ten year old classmates are jerks? It is a shame that you share the last name of a man who is so against bullying that he call some of the people who are right there in that room. I'm with you crying. Chuck lying. Ted Adam shit low. I q Maxine lamb the sham m thirteen lover Nancy, Lil Marco crazy, Bernie, wacky congresswoman Wilson and polka haunt. And don't let me start on what he calls the non elected officials if he thinks they're an ugly lady. You don't deserve a kid. You really don't. But you also don't deserve to get lied to because some other jerk wad ten year old, and yeah, you could tell Connor I call them a jerk wad because some other ten-year-old call Jim name, it doesn't mean you're the very best of us. You are a ten year old who may one day look back on this experience and realized your used as a human prop by a man who does not care about humans, godspeed Lil Trump, may you grow up to be nothing like your last name sake. And that's it for today show here in town. You'll straighter thought we should cut an ad to tout the top of the show in other just podcast. We put it there. And then listeners would say, wow, missing out on something. If I'm missing out on the gist, but I told them that Cuomo promo foam, oh is not a punt. But it's clever. It's very clever teacher Rafael senior producer of sleep podcasts, wishing tends to go on and on about the dangers of hypothermia until she's blue in the face, which is on the gist five one person to invite to the state of union. It'd be a little guy by the name of Joshua, low IQ, no talent Little Rock, and man, but you know, what happened to him. He changed his name. So now, he's known as Stephen low. I q not little rocket, man. God bless him who protect for Peru. And thanks for listening.

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Ep. 953 - The Bernie Sanders Administration

The Ben Shapiro Show

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Ep. 953 - The Bernie Sanders Administration

"The media interest state of denial after Bernie seizes control of the Democratic primary lead. Aoc and Bernie are at odds and we examined Bernie's platform in detail. I'm Ben Shapiro. This is the Ben Shapiro show. Today's show is sponsored by express. Vpn Let others trapped what you do keep yourself safe at expressive VPN DOT com slash. Ben We're GONNA get everything Bernie related in a moment and there will be a lot to talk about with regard to Bernie Sanders. I have to note. The president from now seems to see Michael Bloomberg as his chief rival for the presidency. The reason I say this is because trump is focusing a lot on Michael Bloomberg on his twitter now maybe that's because Bloomberg is under trump's skin and trump is under Bloomberg's skin the way that trump is going after Michael Bloomberg is by calling him short. Somebody who is familiar with this particular tactic I will say I do find it kind of obnoxious because honestly like so what like Siri so this is president trumps favorite thing to do. Apparently it does get under Michael Bloomberg Skin. Maggie Haberman of the New York. Times reported that actually Michael Bloomberg believe it or not lied on his driver's license at one point about his own height which is never a particularly good luck but president trump yesterday. He tweeted out. Mini Mag Bloomberg's loser. Who has money but can't debate and has zero presence. You'll see here reminds me of a tiny version of JEB low energy. Bursch love the job that you're standing over here in the corner. Like what did I do man and just get completely side swiped Jeb. Bush is just the guy who's jogging along the street in from just opens that that passenger side doors. He's driving along this eaten along the street and Bam just smacks JEB for. No reason here reminds me of a tiny version of JEB lower energy Bush but JEB has more political skeletons treated the black community much better than many which is his new name for Michael Bloomberg. He calls him many. This prompted Michael Bloomberg to come back at at at President trashy president from had a follow up to that go back runs and President. Trump did a follow up tweet. Said mini make is a five for mass of dead energy. Ever these stupid man. It's so stupid many Mike. Is it five four? Massive debt energy. Who DOES NOT WANT TO BAY on the debate stage with these professional politicians? No boxes plays that of course reference the fact that Michael Bloomberg had at least one press conference had an apple box at eastern on he hates crazy Bernie and will with enough money possibly stop him. Bernie's people will go nuts so trump obviously is is trying to gin up a lot of conflict between the Bernie people and the Bloomberg people. Believe me that doesn't need any joining up. That's going to emerge on its own Bloomberg for his part then responded to trump saying president trump. We know many of the same people in New York behind your back. They laugh at you and call you a carnival barking clown. They know you inherited a fortune. And squandered it with stupid deals and incompetence I have the record and the resources to defeat you and I will and this of course has got the Democrats all hot and bothered him in his wall. Michael Bloomberg saying that he's a con man wire are all of this is childish crap obviously but from does he bloomberg sort of his lead rival at the moment and the fact that he is And the fact that that Bloomberg is willing to spend as much money as it takes in order to do some damage is is something that has the trump team at least a week nights again. A second we're going to get to everything Bernie Sanders relate because there is some Bernie Sanders News. We'll get to that just once I can i. Let's talk about the earphones. 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Which would make a lot of sense but there was a major union the the Culinary Union yesterday that came out and Bash Bernie. Amy Klobuchar is now spending some money in the state. A surprise win by Amy Klobuchar could really throw a wrench into things for example. Because now you would have a real split in the moderate lane if he blew judge to win Nevada than he would presumably be seen as sort of the front runner outside of Bloomberg for that moderate leadership in the national polling average however Bernie Sanders has now pulled ahead so Bernie is about in the betting odds of forty one percent favor in the betting. Odds Michael Bloomberg is standing at at second at twenty eight point. Six Buddha judge at fifteen point one and Biden has fallen all the way down to single digits in the betting markets at nine point two percent over at five thirty eight to give you the update over there on their estimates for who is going to take the nomination right now. Bernie has about a one in three shot of winning the nomination. I guess they they just updated this to invite shy about thirty eight percent chance of winning the nomination second. No one seconds is that they go into the convention without anyone having won a majority of the delegates again that is a significant possibility. Given the fact that most of the Democratic primaries if not all of them are split by proportional representations that means that Bernie could win estate and he doesn't take all the delegates like for example. Right now people were generally the delegate lead on Bernie because he won won more delegates than Bernie did in Iowa and they tied in New Hampshire in terms of the delegates Joe Biden in that fivethirtyeight estimates still has about one in six shot of winning majority of delegates. Bloomberg is down at one in thirty. But he's the one who's been rising fast. The reason that he's not higher is because he is skipping so many of the early primaries. Okay so Bernie right now. He is the front runner and the media. Just refused to accept this. They refuse to accept this. Even Joe Biden is basically admitting this at this point right Joe Biden is now having campaign on guys over here not bad not bad guys like I'm not dead. Please please. Don't leave me here please. Guys please don't leave me. Here's Joe Biden's new AD. No-one said the road would be easy. Well actually you. Kinda said the road would be easy like those sort of the widespread impression is that the road would be easy and as it turns out People realize that you're not in a live human tremendous opportunity to tech the next step forward. We don't feel no ways tired. We've come too far from where we started. Nobody told me the Road Visi and I don't believe he brought me this far to stop it out. You don't like what's going on in this country. Only one thing to do work together. We can and will win Saturday back this country now. There's nothing better than than Democrats who dropped the. I'm not no ways tired. Glad you're Hillary. Clinton did this back when she was in the Senate in New York and she was running for the presidency. She went to a southern Black Church and she started dropping into a inflected accent in order to draw particular support from the black community. It's always weird when people Joe Biden do that. It's very odd. Thing but Biden is fading fast and that means the Bernie. Who's the only other person in the race with significant name recognition except for Bloomberg again is not getting in until March third right? I mean the Super Tuesday states in which Bloomberg's actually competing oncoming for another three weeks with all of that said this means that Bernie is the front runner in the media. Just refuse to accept it. So they they they. They cannot handle the idea that this octogenarian socialist is actually the leader of the Democratic Party so Chuck. Todd last night is talking about New Hampshire winners and and he and the national poll leadership and he said. I don't see Bernie as the front runner. Is there any front runner right now? Like sure he's one of the first two states and sure. He is favored to win Nevada. And sure he's pulling second in South Carolina and has the most money and sure he has the national poll lead. But is he really the front runner or do we just have no front runner? Some wishful thinking here from Chuck. Todd I don't know why some people feel like the only people that are going out on a limb and calling Bernie Sanders is a front runner. They have other reasons to call them. Front runner feels like there's no front runner right now. One person leads delegates. One person has a lock on a chunk of the party. But we don't know where this goes. Is He the front runner? He doesn't get the president from her and the problem is the. I don't understand how birdie considered a front rudder. This is a guy that had more more people showed up to the polls highest turnout ever. And his percentage went down that up okay. But he's still the front runner. I mean what are you gonNA call him? He's won the only two primaries that have taken place so far. He's going to win the third he may win the fourth and he is going to have the delegate lead he already has the popular vote lead. Of course he's the front runner just because TAT doesn't like it doesn't mean that he's not the front runner he clearly is. Jim Messina a former Obama campaign guy. Jim Messina did the same thing as you know. It's so funny to watch the Left Scurry for. Who's the big winner from New Hampshire? Obviously Bernie is the big winner from New Hampshire. Right there are other people are making moves club moved up. Buddha judge. Got a bump from Iowa but the big winner is they who won I mean? Can we be real about this for a second? The Guy who one would be the big winner. But here's Jim Messina. Saying well maybe the big winner is Michael Bloomberg. Maybe we go okay. Michael Bloomberg did have a good night in New Hampshire because more confused the race is the more the guy with all the cash standing in the background matters a lot. He again is rising the national polling data. But with that said. It's pretty obvious that the big winner from Iowa New Hampshire would be the guy who actually won the caucuses and then won the primary. Here's Jim Messina. Deny reality the second number that I think people need to watch his you know over. Fifty percent of voters voted for a moderate candidate. They said the most important issue is who can beat Donald Trump. And that I. If you're looking at that number of the big number the big winner last night could be mayor Bloomberg as he gets ready for battleship Bloomberg and this unbelievable spending. That's about to come our way. 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Let's say for example that Michael Bloomberg now the national polling lead over Bernie Sanders and that he is pulling better in national head to head matchups against president trump and let's say that he very narrowly trails Bernie Sanders in terms of plurality of delegates. Now the problem is that because Bernie is a radical and because Bernie's people don't care about the Democratic Party right him he brought in a bunch. People who really are not typical Democrats and they've taken over the party he's got the same. Systemic advantage to the trump hadn't twenty sixteen which is to say if they had tried to take the nomination away from trump allowed trump's voters would have just walked from the Republican Party. Burning could do exactly the same thing. And then the Democrats lose so if burning walks in with the delegate lead there is very little shot that he walked out without the delegate lead but what Bernie finishes a close second. What if Bernie finishes close second in the delegates and nobody actually has majority burning? Play the same card by Bernie could say listen. I was job by the Democratic Party again. They keep trying to screw us. And so I'm just not going to back. Whoever this is or oh my support will be soft. But I'm not going to go further than that. It's a Bernie does have a lot of weight simply because number one. He's doing well but number two because he and his supporters are indeed so radical so this is a disaster area for the Democratic Party because even competitive Bernie means a real problem for the Democratic Party. What they really need is for someone to blow Bernie out or at least if he Bernie so solidly at least solidly this. Hillary Clinton did so that he can't complain that he was jobbed out of the nomination. Now there is some. There is some conflict in Bernie land according to Anthony Leonardi reporting for the Washington Examiner Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders and the leader of the squad are reportedly not seeing eye to eye on the campaign trail. New York representative AOC's reportedly frustrating the sanders campaign appearances at the socialist campaign rallies well sanders was occupied in the Senate during the impeachment trial trump. Afc subbed in for him however she did not mention the candidate by name during a January. Rally the SH- indoor some last October. So she's going around doing the I'm AFC and I'm special routine. And she completely forgets. That Bernie is is apparently part of this whole thing sponsoring her to be on the campaign trail Vanity Fair reported that Sanders is campaign manager. If I eat. Shaquille expressed his frustration to campaign manager over texts saying her immigration. Stances were too extreme in fact. Afc is making him look bad why because she's going out there and saying we should just have wildly open borders even for Bernie. She sang the quiet part outlawed. There's not a lot of the quiet part with Bernie Bernie tenths to say the quiet part out loud but he goes out there and spills it ray. So burning will say. We need a more tolerant than fame system. And then you'll be like that means. Open borders guys like well? Why would you say that? That is not a good campaign tactic and that that that so so this sort of split is now moving out into the open. I will rally organizers about tipping off if you start to see that ice and CPR in communities to try and keep people safe that is overtly violating right calling calling on people to run away from the cops you're now complicit in a criminal act. She's not here to reform some of these systems. When we talk about immigration. I'm here because Senator Sanders is actually committed to breaking up ice and see BP. That's why I'm here by the way. If you think that that doesn't end up in an ad you are absolutely wrong right. President trump runs that ad from now until the election. Afc saying that she wants. That's the reason she's endorsing. Sanders is because she wants people to avoid law enforcement and because she wants to completely break up both ice. Ncb which means effectively no law enforcement on the border some of the Sanders campaign according to the Washington examiner were reportedly frustrated by ABC's comments discouraging cooperation with federal authorities saying they're off track of Bernie stance which opposes open borders meanwhile. Abc's team was upset because sanders accepted. Comedian Joe Rogan's endorsement. Following blowback sanders a spokeswoman distance the campaign from Rogan but noted. The campaign will need a big ten supporters to defeat president trump in addition to ABC's endorsement of course sanders is supported by L. Hen Omar and Shedli so. There's a little bit of trouble trouble in socialist paradise the bigger trouble and socialist paradise. Is that eventually eventually? Somebody is actually going to look at Bernie. Sanders is plans. And that's the part where it's GonNa get real awkward. Because so far he's been shielded from that the the media making this mistake with Democratic candidates. They did it with Hillary Clinton they did it with Joe Biden and other dealing with Bernie and that is they shield the Democrats from criticism. They don't do investigative the basic investigative tactics. They don't ask basic investigative questions of these candidates. They go after Republicans hammering but when it comes to Democrats when it comes to Hillary. Hillary was off limits and then went from the kitchen sink. It's like Oh my God. Where did that come from? And the American public are made aware of new information say when it comes to the economy believers George Gilder who use like into the economy to a to a phone line that the the economy works best when the phone line clear meaning that the rules are predictable. They don't change. There's not a lot of static online. There's not a lot of new information. That's being added to the static on the line. Okay well the same thing holds true in a political campaign the best thing in a political campaign is when there's no new information that is added right is why trump has sort of systemic advantage here because trump is a mud monster. The more information he adolescent manners it. Everybody knows everything about trump. There's not much you can say about trump. That hurts him okay. But if you're Hillary Clinton and the media have been trying to portray you as clean as the driven snow pure-as-the-driven-snow and then it turns out. You're not gonNA hurt you. The same thing happened with Joe Biden. I think this hundred Biden hurt Joe specifically because the media even as they even as they reported the Hunter Biden stuff is originally reported in the New Yorker tried to cover for is not that big a deal and then trump hidden with the kitchen sink. Well they've done the same thing with burning that they shield him to now and now they're looking around. One hoops will get into Bernie. Sanders is plans his record the people he associates with in just one second. I let us talk about how you make your employment base better. So let's say that. Once upon a time a long time ago you had a producer mathis and you just terrific on your favorite people mathis. He's just great and everyday he'd come in to an excellent job on the show and let's say that he works really hard work weekends worked nights. It's really hard to the point where he became. 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Yeah it's a little late now guys because now the only person who's GonNa talk about it is Donald Trump in the general election and it's going to hurt his. Let's talk for a second. Just about the cost some Bernie. Sanders is proposal. So stand for America now dot COM. They've done a good job of adding up. Sanders is expensive proposals. They're basing this on Brian. Riedel of the Manhattan Institute Riedel found that in total Bernie Sanders is proposing ninety seven point five trillion dollars of new spending in the next ten years alone in the next ten years alone. So let's think about this in the next ten years we've been spending about four trillion dollars a year. United States government will spend probably on the order of forty trillion dollars Bernie. Sanders is talking about tripling. The budget not doubling the budget. Tripling the budget. He's talking about adding another hundred trillion dollars to that spend okay. That's not incorporating the current spend. It's an additional ninety seven point five trillion dollars. I mean two hundred and thirty seven point five trillion dollars spent by the federal government as opposed to forty trillion dollars spent by the federal government whereas all this come from according to Brian Riedel his Medicare for all plan people. Keep ballpark in this thing. At thirty two trillion dollars first of all that has never yet been a government program. That has come anywhere. Close to the ballpark figure. Originally put out for it. And when you hear people on the left savings let's money over the long haul because people are spending more in the private sector. Then the spending in the public sector that's like saying that if you nationalize all of the food distribution in the United States that you could save money over private food over over how much Americans Benham private food. You're comparing apples and oranges. What Americans spend in the private sector compared to the public spending money on behalf of Americans is a very different thing because the quality is different? Because the choice is different. If the government were to give rations to the American people could save all sorts of money on the kinds of things that we are spending money on in terms of food in the United States. A lot of restaurants would go out of business. Sure he wouldn't have a lot of choices between Indian food and Thai food tonight. Sure you basically just get like a ration kit but we could save all sorts of money right and then you could. You could classify it as money saving monitoring. That's what Bernie does right. He says well we're going to. We're going to take all the private funding people doin' Healthca and that includes you paying out of pocket to a surgery that you need quickly. So you're not waiting six months and I'm like you in Canada. That means being able to Dr Fast. It means being able to get drugs. On-demand it means being able to develop new drugs. Bernie's like it will be cheaper if we just nationalize it and spend less money on it literally. True of every single commodity in the American private market seriously true of all of these things nine other communists who Benz finally getting the point. I'm making the point. If you notice that equality of government run things is garbagey. Generally if the government decided that the government was simply going to provide everybody with nineteen eighty-nine Apple Computer. Okay that we don't save tons of money on tech wouldn't we wouldn't be showing for that brand new computer. Everybody would have an I mac from nineteen ninety nine hundred ninety seven when bunch like who has like a blue case back. It's beautiful they did. This is what Burns proposing. Then he's calling and saving money first of all. The chances are that over time. You're not going to end up all that much money because either what ends up happening is rationing or you have to increase the amount of the of the reimbursements that are coming from the government is. Why when Bernie says that? You're going to have exactly the same level of care. Exactly the same doctor. Through Medicare have not Medicare that is not true which Medicare advantage is thing. Many many seniors seniors take advantage of they buy additional coverage through Medicare advantage may so medicare for all when he says it's GONNA cost thirty two trillion dollars over the next ten years. It is going to cost forty says Brian Riddle. His climate plan sixteen point three trillion dollars guarantee a fulltime government job right. This is one of the things that have been glossed over. He wants a full time. Federal jobs program a fulltime federal jobs program. Because if you lose your job the government will just hire you straight out that would cost about thirty trillion dollars. He wants to cancel all student debt and Free College for everyone in the country. Which of course is in idiotic idea when we don't actually track people like if you were GonNa make the case that you're going to have free college. But that everybody when they are sixteen years old tests into a particular sector. And then you go into the most economically efficient sector. At least you can make a case that at that point people aren't going to useless schooling for no reason right. They have this sort of system in many countries in Europe. They have it in Israel. If you're making the case that people are going to be able to choose what to major in and that we are supposed to subsidize some middle upper class white girl to major in lesbian dance theory. We're supposed to cover the cost of that. That's an idiotic idea it's actually a regressive tax and that's GONNA cost three trillion dollars. He wants to expand social security which again social security bankrupt guys. We are putting out more money. You're on your than we're taking in in social security and he wants federal housing guarantee which he says is only gonNA cost you point five trillion dollars. But it's a it's going to cost more than that and then there are a bunch of other new programs. There's paid family leave. You won't spend a trillion bucks on infrastructure which. He says that he wants four hundred billion dollars for public school teachers salaries that is low. He wants eight Hundred Billion Dollars for K through twelve education. That is look okay. Every statistic that has put out here is going to be blown out. There is yet to be a government program that comes in under budget it does not exist it does not exist as President Reagan. One set their own. The only government programs are the only guarantee of everlasting life. They do not die they only grow. They never shrink. So the total result is ninety seven point five trillion dollars in new spending according Bryan reto seventy percent of the US economy on a year-on-year basis spent on government programs seventy percent of the entire GDP of the United States every year ninety million bucks added to the national that and fifty percents of the entire workforce employed by the government. That sounds perfectly sustainable to me is a sound sustainable to you. I mean I don't see the problem after all bread line of bread. What does the problem? We cannot subsist on dreams. Haven't seen Hook. Who's a great movie? December seem with the leading edge. But they use the imaginations and then to have a food fight with their imaginations Peter. You're doing it Peter. Remember that we could all do that. You don't have to have actual food. You could have immagination food. Sure the pie is fixed and is not an apply for everybody but the magic pie that is larger than simply exist in your imagination is a. Here's the problem with all this. It's all crap. Okay so how do we know how radical brings it because again? The media refuses to talk about this they simply gloss right over it. So let's talk about the groups that he is using in order to push forward the prospective Bernie Sanders Administration so the Washington. Post has an article today that we are going to get you momentarily. We'll get to that in just one second. I let us talk about something awkward. A what is that awkward thing. That awkward thing is tile dysfunction. Yeah there's something awkward to talk about but if you are going to get it taken care of and you should the people you need to go to. Are The people over at Roman? In many cases people have to wait around one thousand nine days to see a doctor in major. Us cities basically a month. 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Many of them spoke on the condition of anonymity because the process remains so fluid and many decisions have not been made some parts of sanders policy agenda remain unchanged from two thousand sixteen advisors say his Medicare for all in fifteen dollars an hour. Minimum wage would probably top his list of first priorities. His expanded his two thousand sixteen agenda by adding policies. Such as a green new deal. A housing guarantee for all Americans the elimination of all student that held in the country and an aggressive wealth tax on multimillionaires and billionaires critics. Say It's unclear whether Sanders is team is up to the daunting legislative and policy challenges ahead while supporters a major asset in their rejection of traditional democratic channels and policy priorities. Sanders has hired three four. H. Harry Reid. What an for holding the line during public debates will also cutting deals with Republicans at Opportune Times but Sanders has retained longtime advisors in key roles. Some of those advisers by the way include Jane Sanders. His wife who has helped craft the twenty twenty campaigns climate and housing policies which is great after she around a university directly into the ground. I mean like a plane from twenty thousand feet directly into the ground tissue around university in Vermont. What's definitely put her in charge of climate and housing policy in the United States so his advisors apparently are clashing with major democratic think-tanks. His policy team working with National Political Director on the Lilia Majia has instead consulted with environmental in immigration activist organizations such as sunrise movement and the central for popular democracy and has also worked with Labor funded groups such as the Economic Policy Institute and the Democracy Collaborative in international organization connected to leftist German Corbin's Labor Party in Britain and new tanks like the People's policy project founded in twenty seventeen and funded by small dollar donations. These groups regarded as marginal players. Among Washington insiders could gain new prominence should sanders. Run the table in the election. Okay so let's talk about who some of these people are. Let's talk about some of these groups because we just ran through a list of groups and when you group altogether transcending all people are sort of outside bucks. Let's talk about who these groups are so let us begin with the sunrise movement. Right is mentioned here that he's consulting with environmental activist organizations like the sunrise movements. Who exactly are the sunrise movement. The Sunrise Movement is this environmentalist group. And here's what it says. On their website they stumped for what they call the Green New Deal K. and they have they. They overtly link to ails these ridiculous videos on the on the green new deal in which she claims that she is going to make America basically run entirely carbon free while she becomes a senator and he really. This is a video. We played this on the show. Sunrise movement post this video on their website. Jurors that ridiculous video. I think there was something similar with the green new deal. We knew that we needed to save the planet and that we had all the technology to do it but people were scared they said it was too big too fast not practical. I think that's because they just couldn't picture yet anyways. I'm getting ahead of myself. By committing to universal rights like healthcare and meaningful work for all. We stop being so scared of the future. We stop being scared of each other and we found our shared purpose. I mean this is insanity right. The her green new deal is basically free crap for everyone up to including health free healthcare for everybody free college tuition for everybody. Free housing for everybody. It's because we're scared guys. You're doing it Peter. Imagine we were just so scared. It was fear it wasn't like the realities of reality. It was fear that stopped at the south. So the Sunrise Movement Post this and they post this. And here's what they say. The Greenland deal is a ten year plan to mobilize every aspect of American society to one hundred percent clean and renewable energy by twenty thirty a guarantee living wage job for anyone who needs one and adjust transition for both workers in front line communities so government full government employment program and we are going to be completely carbon-free by twenty thirty. If you believe this boy do I have a bridge to sell you? I mean my goodness entirely carbon free in ten years. Good luck with that gang by the way. Who are the core of the sunrise movement? They're the same people who are taking children and put them in Diane Feinstein's office even Dianne Feinstein. Who is very far to the left? She's been my senator nearly my entire life here in California not a fan. But the one time I became a fan of Dianne Feinstein was during this little exchange. Where Sunrise Movement these obnoxious human beings broaden a bunch of children and had the children try to school? Dianne Feinstein which resulted in Dianne. Feinstein being like you can't vote. Shut up kid government when people five people and knowing. What's interesting about this group is? I've been doing this thirty years. I know what I'm doing. You come in here and you say it has to be my way or the highway. I don't respond to that. I've gotten elected. I just ran. I was elected by almost two million vote rally and I know what I'm doing so you know maybe people should listen a little bit. Sunrise movement is so ridiculous. That even Dianne Feinstein. Who's as far to the left as it's possible to be in Congress even find centers like you guys are. You guys are joke. Because that's one of the groups that Bernie Sanders is counting on another of groups that Bernie Sanders is counting on is the so called Center for Popular Democracy so if you look at their website they have a list of their values. Some of their values include quote. We will only be free when we dismantle the criminal justice system that Steele's childhood Moore's black and Brown people and locks up people for being poor. That's another one of the advisory Groups Bernie Sanders. They believe that the criminal justice system in the United States simply locking people up for being impoverished. Moore's black and Brown people and steals childhoods and they want to completely dismantle the criminal justice system. They want every person who was formerly incarcerated to vote they want a nation that quote unquote promotes peace and harmony around the world and we will only be free when the US government ceases to instigate violence in other countries right to the issue. They want they believe that the United States is a great instigator violence. They they say together. We will dream together. We will resist together. We will rise okay. Another radical group. And then the turns out that these the center for popular democracy. The Center for Popular Democracy is is also associated pretty closely with this guy named Ghar Al per wits so Gar Alperovitz. I'm frank remember which of these groups is associated with. Karl Hurwitz has become sort of misses the post capitalist guy he was one of the founders of one of the groups that that dumb the the democracy collaborative that's correct you with the democracy collaborative and that's another one of these groups that gets named in this Bernie Sanders article gets name checked. The Democracy Collaborative galloper which is like a post capitalist thinkers meaning that he is openly in favour of socialism and by socialism. Really means nationalization right He? He's pretty clear about this. He says that it's kind of unpalatable to talk about nationalization resources but effectively we should municipal municipal is resources we should just have the government takeover industries. He had an article in the in the nation called. Socialism is closer than you think. And here's what he writes at. The core of the traditional socialist argument has always been the judgment that democratic ownership of the nation's wealth and especially low marks called the means of production is essential the question of ownership however has rarely been mentioned in conventional political debate the traditional socialist idea of nationalize industries beyond the Pale and the vast majority of progressives have so far avoid discussing alternatives to the status socialist model. So he doesn't actually reject the idea of nationalizing the means of production of government ownership of the means of production instead he actually chastises Bernie Sanders for not being socialist enough in the nation. This guy or this galloper. What's fellow. Who by the way also is the leader of the democracy collaborative which is one of the groups that Bernie's consulting in this article for the nation written just a couple of years ago upper what says despite his self definition as the Democratic Socialist Sanders has offered what essentially a strong liberal liberal or Social Democratic Program of Progressive Taxation Financial Regulation single payer healthcare increased social security and income support programs and environmental regulations? Sanders explicitly disavowed government ownership of businesses in his major themes heading speech at Georgetown University last November at the same time says help her wits. New Resources have become available to support the construction of a serious alternative system when that socialist in content and vision but also highly democratic and accountable in structure okay. Now here's the problem. Once you suggest that people get to vote on how industry is run. It is not actually being run along the lines of the free market. Now you're talking about the government cramming down its own vision of Hell. Businesses should be run on business. So you don't actually end up with free market so in fact it's not democratic because the basis of democracy is rights and you're saying there are no rights. There's just what the what the what the majority wants. So alperovitz recommends as a as an alternative to state run systems because worker cooperatives neighborhood land trump's and municipal corporate corporations all democratizing ownership in one way or another doing so in decentralized rather than status fashion. But if it's done without the help of government than that is not socialism that is just a bunch of people getting together and founding company together right when facebook was founded. Everybody who started facebook got a share of the stock that amounted to like twenty three billion dollars when facebook went public for people who started the company. Is there anybody on? The Socialist left to calls facebook cooperative or would've called facebook a cooperative. If you're operating in a free market situation through sheer power of consent that is no longer communism or socialism. Socialism has to involve a state compelled or state-sponsored components. Otherwise it is not the workers in charge of the means of production. It is their capitalist. Now if you're an owner if you own stock Socialists will call you a capitalist if you own stock in a company where you work. Are you a socialist or Yoko? Are you a worker Labor or are you capital in fact the that that sort of division doesn't make any sense in that context right? I work for daily wire. Also stock owner in daily wire. Does that mean that I may work or that means that I am a capitalist. The only way to tell presumably is if not everybody owns stock in the company and then you can make a stark division at that point but that is an artificial division even then because not everybody own stock even working for worker cooperatives. I'll give you an example so and this has become one of the talking points you hear. Anc say things like this routinely with regard to work acropora. She has a worker. If Jeff visas were great he would just make Amazon into a worker. Cooperative Amazon is a publicly traded company. If you want to own a piece of Amazon you can do so right now right now you can go over to to the Stock Exchange and you can buy a piece of Amazon. But just because he didn't go over and do that does not mean that Amazon is solely for the benefit of the of the capitalist at the top everybody who own stock is presumably a capitalist and all the workers who by the way earn a salary which means they're making more money off off of working at Amazon presumably then most stockholders Amazon. Those people are earning money to a salary is a piece of the money you earned from the company. That is what it is in. Any case will get into this in a second. The point that I'm making is that without government subsidies. You're not talking actually about socialism. What you're actually talking that it's just a bunch of people get together and form a company in many cases. You just call this. Llc You'll get that in one second verse last week. I told you about this awesome. Podcast the Cold War what we saw over the weekend. This podcast reach number one in history. Podcast number five on apple podcasts. 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App also subscribed today over daily wire dot com where largest fast-growing conservative podcast and radio show in the nation in the world is what we're seeing right now with people like Gallo. Hurwitz is that a regar- approach rather is the is the attempt to paint socialist free market activity in which people own stock in the company. Okay that is. That's a free market activity. I have a very stark division between socialism and not socialism. Socialism is where the state's collectivize is the means of production state. Ownership of the means of production is the core of socialism. Hey if a bunch of us at the company together and found a company today and we share the stock evenly. That's not a socialist cooperative. Okay that it isn't that is just US deciding to cooperate. Socialism requires a state inspired elements. Otherwise you're just talking about a free market arrangement. It is the violation of consent that socialism stands for if violation content. We're not required. I have no problem with any of this. Nobody you can't find a capitalist would have a problem with a joint stock ownership company. Nobody has a problem with that on the right. So if you're if you're declaring socialism in opposition to acts that you have to find what the X. is if I don't oppose it I can promise you this if I don't oppose it. It's very difficult to call it a form of socialism. Okay in any case the reason that I point this out is because these people's L. worker cooperatives. These are true socialism. Also true socialism has to be is worker cooperatives. Okay let's take an example. Mondragon is the biggest worker co op on planet Earth Rate Exists in Spain and has like eighty thousand employees and everybody in the company owned stock and then the vote on decisions together. There's only one problem. According to The Guardian two thousand thirteen Mondragon is exposed a fierce competition from developing world competitors with lower labour costs. It's response has been set up factories or by companies in other parts of the world. They're now ninety. Four subsidiaries producing goods from Vietnam to Chile Morocco and Russia workers at these are not co OP members fewer than half of Mandra. Guns Workforce Are Members. Meaning there also rob blooded capitalist living off the Labour of others so in other words the rules of the market do not cease to apply when more people own stock publicly traded companies. Lots of people own stock hit has been true from Andre. Gone for years it operates basically like a free market corporation. It's just a bunch of people who own stock and they vote in the board elections effectively. Speaking and here's the problem with the idea of forcing down worker owned businesses if you force down worker on businesses then why would I invest my own capital a company where I don't have control over the decisions that are made about the use of that capital? Why would I do that if you presented me a good business plan then? I will invest in business plan regardless of who owns the means of production. But if you present me a bad business plan and this is really what Bernie wants. This is what people on the left one. They want any bad business plans. He Green Lit by the government sponsored by tax payers and then subsidized by taxpayers. If the thing starts to go south or restrictions placed on other companies when they talk about. Worker Co ops. They really mean is government subsidized sponsored or mandated. Worker Co ops they do not mean through pure voluntarism get one final group in which the with the burning has been calling upon is the People's policy project they talk extensively about various things that want including that the US should make a suite of reforms aimed at increasing leisure time. They talk about a global green new deal openly arguing the US should send hundreds of billions of dollars annually to the UN Green Climate Fund hundreds of billions of dollars annually to the UN Green Climate Fund. To help developing countries make clean energy transitions and the policy of the United States would publicly fund early stage green at technologies and also would manage the government's equity stakes in all of these green technologies and they argue for eight tax two hundred thirty bucks per tonne of carbon pollution at good good luck with not destroying the economy of the United States. Without all of this is just the groups that burns associated with. Then you actually go to his website. And you look at his actual agenda and it's absolute lunacy. I mean absolute full-scale Lunacy so take that workplace democracy plan right so so he calls it a workplace democracy plan. His goal is to double union membership within his first term. How's it going to do that? He's going to mandate that companies. Have to deal with unions. So you don't have a free market transaction anymore. violation of content. You're now mandating that a company deal with the Union. Even if the company can hire people from outside the Union in order to work which is a violation of basic free market principles and puts a bunch of people who are not in charge of the profitability of the company in charge of the company. It deny federal contracts to companies that pay quote unquote poverty. Wages outsource jobs overseas engage in union. Busting tonight good benefits and pay outrageous compensation packages in other words federal contracts will only go to friends of Bernie eliminate right to work for less laws right. So that's just right to work laws it would guarantee the right to unionize. Workers historically excluded from Labor Protections. They want domestic workers to be crammed. Down as a unionized workforce. So that means that if you hire a domestic worker to take care of your ailing father that you will have to deal with a union now in order to do that. And so so he's pushing unionization force down by the by the federal government his pushing what he calls corporate accountability and democracy. We will give workers ownership company in ownership stake in the companies. They work for US talking about overtly seizing companies or at least redistributing the ownership stakes in companies. Despite the fact that workers presumably signed up with the company with the understanding that they weren't Guinea stock in the company. He is talking about completely reorganising. Every facet of America's business life he says while the corporate profits that presently go to a small number of ultra wealthy families are at or near all time high wages as a percentage of economy are at an all time low and so he says establishment tells us. There's no alternative. The truth is we must develop new economic models to create jobs and increase wages and productivity across America. He says workers basically companies should be forced to give ownership stakes in their companies and equal say on corporate boards. Okay let's daily wire again. I am a stock owner in daily wire. I'm one of the founders of the daily wire. Hey now Bernie comes along and says you have over one hundred employees. This means that fifty percent of your board has to be comprised of people you employ and you can't fire those people presumably. Do you think that anyone's going invest in a new business ever. Why would I do that? I am handing over control of the business to people whose chief interest is in maximizing not the profitability accountability and competitiveness of the company but in ensuring that the company spends most of its most of its energy on on the wage base. Okay that that kills entrepreneurship. Why would I invest in a company that I don't control? Where if the workers decide to make a decision that let's say that we have a choice. The choice now is to invest a million dollars in a new innovative concept in which the workers may share or they may not share or we can spend that million dollars raises for everybody. The workers very often. I'm GonNa vote for the for the ways the raises because don't know they're going to be working at this company and five or ten years. So why wouldn't they vote for the reasons okay? We don't have to? We don't have to speculate about this. This is exactly what happened in Detroit in the nineteen fifties and sixties when unions were largely running the major auto companies. And then the minute. The competition was available and the tariffs were lowered in the nineteen sixties and seventies the auto industry in the United States plummeted cliff. You know when you place workers in opposition to capital and then suggest that the worker should control the capital. Do you think anybody's ever going to invest in a company again in the United States. This is not investment. Worth is not economics works. It violates basic forms of consent again if workers want to get together and formed company. They're perfectly free to do so. It is a free country. Killa Bernie is talking about is complete reorganization crammed down by the Federal Government on nearly every business in America or at least on any business that is sufficiently successful to have a given number of employees. And then there's Bernie's foreign policy at Bernie's foreign policy is utter madness so he suggests that we are going to we are going to give over authorities the International Criminal Court so that we can have foreign countries judge American soldiers in war zones. American soldiers no longer be subject to American law. They'll be subject to the vagaries of international run from Brussels. He wants us to of course rejoined the Iran nuclear agreement and he and I mean his his his foreign policy by the way I will say his foreign policy pages incredibly short. Why because of foreign policy is basically he just wants America's military to be incredibly weak and that's all it says. Then you have his his plan with Churches Okay. So he has what he calls his. Lgbtq part of this and he explicitly says he wants to strongly oppose any legislation that purports to protect religious liberty at the expense of others rights. So in other words he wants your church to be able to be sued into the ground for not accepting same sex marriages or transgender geology. That's what he would like. It is on his website Bernie a radical. His full jobs plan. We'll enact a federal jobs guarantee create twenty million jobs part of the green new deal which effectively means we're just GONNA pay people to dig holes and then fill them in again. Brock Obama tried to do the same obstacle shovel. Ready jobs giant fail. All of this is pie in the sky nonsense. They can only be accomplished. Presumably through massive debt and also through the seizure of the means of production. It's the is the feature not the bug. He's not hiding the ball here. If you think this isn't plenty for Donald Trump to attack. It is plenty for Donald Trump to attack already time for some things I like and then some things that I hate so things that I like today. You know what? I don't have any things I'd like to do some things I hate. What is sort of fascinating when mask comes off at universities and the push for racial tolerance as it turns out is merely just a push for racial quotas. Good example this happened yesterday. Apparently there is some public space at the University of Virginia and University of Virginia walked in and give a public service announcement that EV- in this public space. There were just too many white people which is certainly one hell of a statement. The this is definitely accomplishing Martin. Luther King's vision of a society in which we are judged by the by the quality of character rather than the color of our skin is people walking in and saying too many white people in here. This is working out beautifully for everybody. Public Service announcement. Excuse me if you already know this is the NFC and frankly there's just too many white people in here in this little space for people of Color. So let's be really cognizant of the space that you're taking up because it does make some of us. Poc uncomfortable let me see too many white people in here. It's only been open for four days and frankly there's the whole university for Lauda the at and there's very few spaces for us so keep that in mind thinking okay. This is insane multicultural center but only for not white people and if they're too many white people in here get out. Obviously it goes without saying reverse the races and this would be a national scandal but of course raw. Supposed to pretend that this sort of stuff doesn't happen and that racism is is one of the fascinating things when people say things like. Racism is not just racism. It's racism combined with power. Therefore because the structural hierarchies in the United States are such the white people are more powerful than black people than that means that nobody who is of color can never be a racist okay. Well what about when? It's the university and a representative of the university who is stepping into a position of power and explicitly saying white people out like wouldn't that be racism combined with power or no or no can meanwhile speaking of of people saying idiotic things on the basis of intersectional identity. Ianna Presley got up yesterday and she suggested that women are not equal to men in the eyes of the government which is very weird. Considering the women constitute the majority of college attendees the majority of college graduates that they are in prison far less than men that they are that they are actually the majority of the workforce at this point but according to Ion Presley who is sitting in Congress. Apparently women are not equal to men in the eyes of the government. Which again I'm GonNa need some evidence of this one. The American constitution is sexist. Bites vary designed. This country's laws have historically treated US like second class citizens. Depriving us of the right to vote inter most jobs and to own property while some of these injustices may cease to exist. We still face tremendous barriers to our full participation in society with tomorrow's vote. We have an opportunity to write this country's wrong and to take a stand in the name of equality. I like that. She is now linking bars female property ownership which so far as I'm aware have not existed for well over a century and a half in the United States. I'm really confused. As to how she is linking that with anything that has to do with today but this is what by the way so much of leftist thought is this so much of leftist thoughts. Here's a bad thing that happened two years ago. Jim Fast forward. It's the same today except without that thing but it's the same today this every time. He coach essay every time he quotes essay is very passionate writing about something that happened in eighteen twenty three and then just fast forward to today and he's like and now the current equivalent is x. And it's super dishonest. A really if you think that women are put upon as a general as a general matter in American society. I would suggest that you have blinders on yes. Of course. Sexism exists in American society. Yes of course. Racism exists in American society. But if the general idea is that women are victims in American Society Today. No just no. I'm sorry that's not correct. That is not right. And especially if you're claiming their legal barriers to women in American Society. That is certainly not correct. So this is obviously sheer and undiluted nonsense but unfortunately it is the way the Democratic Party is is run these days and it's really ugly and it's on the basis of the sort of crafted resentments. That you're able to pitch a Bernie Sanders Agenda Right. If you declare that America is unfixable if he declared that America is in essence. A land victimization then. Of course you can argue on a moral level for the uprooting of that system. See the thing. That Bernie and a lot of the West have to contend with is the fact that America is incredibly free and prosperous that most people in America are doing incredibly well that even the poor in America are rich by May by by global standards now by American standards by global standards. They're middle class. Or Rich by global standards. The poor people live in the United States and so the Socialists have an uphill climb to explain why we ought to upper a system that has created more prosperity for more human beings than any system in the history of humanity and more freedom for more human beings than any system in the history of humanity as a heavy lift so instead what you see from people like on a Presley and presumably from the University of Virginia Rep to is they will say sure all the stuff is pretty good but it is morally unjustifiable because of all the suffering that went before therefore we have to put the system. Everything that is good. Is the fruit of the poisonous tree. If we cut down the tree and we up route the roots men. Sure we're GONNA lose some. That could step. We'll have built a better moral foundation. This is why in the end. The Bernie Sanders. Pitch has very little to do with his policy and it has much more to do with his ideals. Right is it. This is the reality of the situation. I can talk all day long to Bernie Sanders supporters about the fact that his plans are utterly unsustainable that they are going to tank the economy that they are in my view immoral violet of individual rights but according to people on the left. This is a question not of individual rights. It's a question of the morality of the system in place and this is the beauty of the counterfactual for people who are on the far left. The beauty of the counterfactual is the gets live off the riches of capitalism off the richest of individual liberty off the basis of enlightenment thinking and then it's a bitch about how things would be better if we'd never done any of those things it really is. It really is beautiful as college. Campus fairly recently and. Somebody handed me a pamphlet that talked about it quote various people including I believe Martin Luther King talking about some of the wonders socialism. And all this stuff and they said well look at all these great people who had great things say about socialism and I said all common. None of them lived under it they really. It is very very easy to talk about. The Wonders of socialism particularly government ownership of the means of production and never have to live under it and then suggest while if we did live under it then the prospective fantasy is so much better than any reality that could possibly exist. The dream of Utopia is always better than the reality. The thing is the dream of Utopia ain't gonNA materialize so when when you hear politicians tell you to dream big to dream big. We should say is okay. And now let's verify. Now it's verify because your dreams I keep going back to this whole quote but this this this this hooks but that really is what it is. If you just dream hard enough it will. You can will the dream to reality. You know. Sometimes you cannot and sometimes the dream itself is immoral. If what if what? Mandates is means that you wish not to specify the hiding of the ball when it comes to socialism the attempted basically suggests that it's just GonNa be a higher tax system or the that that Pitch Bernie Sanders is making it obscures. The reality of true government ownership of the means of production which does suggest compulsion. It does suggest tyranny. It does suggest violation of individual rights. And the only basis that that people can push for on that basis is to suggest that the regime of individual rights is inherently racist sexist bigoted homophobic and Rudin historic injustice. Which is why the New York Times pushes the sixteen nineteen project? It's why the study of history is really really important. 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Bernies Fight Against Trump, the GOP, the Democratic Establishment, and Corporate Media

Intercepted with Jeremy Scahill

1:01:13 hr | 7 months ago

Bernies Fight Against Trump, the GOP, the Democratic Establishment, and Corporate Media

"Pretty STANDARD LEADS THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD. The national polls. He's the front runner. You're making a lot of people nervous. Is that a bad thing free. Sanders has been arguing that everyone can have health care education and a decent paying job. Let's use the federal government to protect. The interests of working. Families is in that a dangerous message for Democrats Blah Blah Blah Blah and. That's just one Bernie Sanders many proposals. There's also free public college cancellation of all student. Debt or federal jobs guarantee and a green new deal to rapidly reduce carbon emissions. How you'RE GONNA pay for this through a modest tax on Wall Street speculation without even or we have a tax on wealth as you. Well know listen to you. Know how? How much though do you have a price tag? Oh boy are you gonNA pay how you GONNA pay a seven hundred billion dollars dollars impacts breaks to the one present in large corporations. Which would what is intercepted? I'm Jeremy Scahill coming from the offices of the intercept in New York City. This is episode one. Eighteen of intercepted. Can Americans trust that? A democratic socialist president will not give Authoritarians a free pass have opposed authoritarianism. All over the world and I was really amazed at what Mayor Bloomberg just said a moment ago. He said that the Chinese government is responsive to the Politburo but who the hell is the polit bureau responsible to who elects the politburo Uganda real dictatorship of course a dictatorship in Cuba? What is said is what Barack Obama said in terms of Cuba. Cuba made progress on education. Yes I think really really bad. To Barack Obama. Certain they made progress on. Education is making healthcare that was Barack Obama Tiger Balm occasionally. It might be a good idea to be honest about American foreign policy. And that includes the fact that America's overthrown governments all over the world in Chile Guatemala in Iran and dictatorships whether it's the Chinese or the Cubans. Do something good. You acknowledge that. But you don't have trade loveless funny living the cold. There are a few patterns in the media and political discourse in this country that I wanNA take a few moments to address and they had to do with the way that the Bernie Sanders campaign is discussed on the airwaves of corporate media outlets and publications as well as among the elite class of the Democratic Party establishment and also among some of the so-called never trump republicans who have made an alliance with these democratic elites in short what we are. Witnessing is the beginnings of the cataclysmic meltdown that will occur in various sectors of the US political class elite class in the United States. If Bernie Sanders wins the majority of delegates in the Democratic primary reading last night about the fall of France in the summer of nineteen forty and the general Renault Calls Churchill and says it's overt and Charleston. How can it be? You got the greatest army in Europe. How can it be over? He said it's over so I had that suppressed feeling. I can't be as wild as CARVILLE. But he is damned smart and I think he's damn right on this one now it has unfortunately become very low hanging fruit to look at. Msnbc's coverage of this primary for a sense of how out of touch delusional and frankly demoralized the democratic establishment. And it's pundits are but it really is something to behold. It's obviously these other. Candidates have not officially talked about it. It's obvious that he's never been vetted crash. I I've not seen the Party Region York Times or The Washington Post. Nbc News or anything else. Then you have this shameless class of neo cons. Lifelong right win. Republicans so-called conservative pundits who call themselves the never trumpers they have been in this weird alliance with the MSNBC DNC crowd in the three years of Donald Trump. And now they are all offering. They're unsolicited and unwanted panic. Adult advice for what Democratic voters should do and how urgent it is that they stop Bernie Sanders this tweet from never-trumper in chief Bill Kristol calling democratic members of Congress governors and other leaders. Could you perhaps say in public? What you say. In private that a sanders nomination would be a disaster for the party and that we're happen to win. His presidency would be bad for the country. I'm sorry but William Kristol Max boot David from all of these other neo cons have no standing whatsoever to pretend to tell working. People people struggling for Economic Justice Racial Justice Gender Justice against wars of aggression. They have no standing whatsoever to tell any of those people who they should be supporting in the race for the Democratic nomination. In fact I would say that these people should not be able to go out in public without being asked repeatedly about their support for all of the civilian lives across the globe that have been lost because of the wars that they promoted and enabled. These people are dangerous. Charlatans and it is shameful that some Democrats and media establishment figure so willingly ignored the atrocious careers of these people and embraced them as allies. These are for the most part Cold War armchair cowboys who do not have the best interest of the vast majority of Americans or the world at heart. They have spent their entire public lives on the wrong side of history as the United States. Senate up I do understand the power of the corporate elite and the one percent they have. They have literally on limited amounts of money. They have significant control over the media over our economy and over the political life of this country bought at the end of the day. One percent is one Bernie. Sanders has been in opposition his entire political career. He has run for election repeatedly taken on major corporate and political forces. He has been vetted. The campaign of Hillary Clinton spent substantial resources on so-called opposition. Research Against Bernie Sanders and produce absolutely nothing that could effectively tar sanders. One of the wealthiest people on Earth. Michael Bloomberg is right. Now spending mega millions trying to smear Bernie Sanders and it's a bit ironic and frankly nuts that bloomberg with all of his heinous well documented skeletons. That are not in the closet but are literally walking around in public for him to pretend to be the veteran chief of Bernie Sanders. Here's the fact if there was any real dirt I mean consequential facts about Bernie Sanders. They would have already been reported on leaked weaponized. And so what do we have now? Red Baiting this was predictable and it was definitely part of the Clinton attack on Sanders back in the two thousand sixteen campaign asking Senator Sanders. I think in that same interview. He praised what he called the revolution values in Cuba and talked about how people were working for the common good not for themselves. I couldn't disagree more. You know if the values are that you oppress people you disappear. People you imprisoned people even kill people for expressing their opinions for expressing freedom of speech that is not the Kinda revolution of values that I ever WanNa see now once again. This Red Baiting is emerging as a central tactic that is being used by Democratic Party elites and by Bloomberg Joe Biden yes people to judge and by Republicans and Donald Trump to attack him there. Is this alliance now between the GOP and the democratic establishment to use red scare tactics against Bernie Sanders? This is the central strategy of the bipartisan. Coalition opposing Bernie Sanders McCarthyism. But the problem is the real winner. Last night I believe was Putin I. We're going to have the most divisive election. If Bernie's the nominee we are going to see two very very angry people representing two very different extremes of their parties and I think that helps make America more chaotic. It makes us more divisive and I think the one that gets advantaged by that is Russia. You may not know it by watching major television networks these days but Bernie Sanders does not go around the country. Campaigning against the murderous. Us foreign policy of the nineteen sixties seventies or eighties or discussing Cuba's literacy program from the early nineteen sixties. He's not wearing a check of our T. shirt at his rallies. No it's the corporate media. Some of Standards Democratic opponents an elite democratic establishment figures the Republicans and journalists who are harping on these issues. Why are we talking about Cuba? And it's literacy program is it because Bernie Sanders is always referencing it in his campaign speeches and rallies no. We're discussing it. Because that is what mccarthyite corporate power wants to discuss in a dishonest out of context effort to smear Bernie Sanders. And by the way. Isn't it interesting? How these political forces are intensifying. These attacks after sanders historic win in Nevada which was propelled by the Latin x vote. Part of what is happening right now is most definitely an effort to weaponize cuban-americans for partisan political smear purposes ahead of Super Tuesday where large numbers of Latin x people will be voting and by the way the Cuban American community of today including in Florida is not the monolithic right wing. Constituency that these attacks seem to assume it is. The truth is that the attacks on Sanders on Cuba Nicaragua. Latin America Sandra statements in the seventies suggesting the CIA should be abolished. These are meant to distract and they are pathetic attacks. But if that's the debate they insist on having. Then let's have a real honest debate on the murderous. Us policies that sanders was opposing. I'm not saying that this would be a wise strategy for Bernie Sanders to engage in to proactively. Raise these issues on the campaign but if he's confronted with this intense fact free a historical red baiting. Yes he should talk about the actual history. There are much more urgent issues to address and Sanders always pivots to those as he should but for those of us who are not running for president right now or working for political campaigns for those of us for whom facts context in history matter. We should set the record straight in the face of these smears of this attempt to revise history. Let's talk about Fulgencio. Batista's vicious dictatorship in Cuba. That was backed by the wealthy power elite inside the US government and the private sector. That was the government that Fidel Castro overthrew and. It is indisputable that the Cuban Revolution brought healthcare housing literacy education to a country that had for decades been a US plantation with a bunch of casinos on it. Let's talk about the Vile us-backed Contra death squads in Nicaragua and its campaign of terror. Rape pillage murder all by the Reagan administration. Let's talk about the coups and assassinations and support for dictators and brutal thugs orchestrated by the US government for decades. If you trace the history of the United States vis-a-vis Latin America and Central America has never been a time when a country made a revolution for the poor people where it was not overthrown by the CIA. With the United States. Government for the Marines Salvador Allende was democratically elected by the people of Chile. He made the mistake of believing that his job as president of that country was to represent the people of Chile and he did his best and he was overthrown by the CIA thought. The interesting question is why does the United States government think whether it's Nicaragua or any other country in Latin a Central America that it has the right to overthrow those Bernie? Sanders came of age in an era where the CIA was being revealed publicly as a criminal. Enterprise overthrowing governments backing death squads actively spying on American citizens assassinating people. And you know what Bernie Sanders had the courage in real time to oppose it when it mattered. You see these cherry. Picking a historical red baiting attacks on sanders that we are seeing from Bloomberg. Buddha judge Biden never trumpers democratic elites media figures. It's propaganda it's rooted in lies and it is banking on ignorance of history. It's aimed at making voters scared of the read menace and it's an effort to try to prosecute sanders in front of their modern day house. Unamerican activities committee a member of the Communist Party or have you been a member of the Communist Party unfortunate and tragic but I have to teach committee that question. The question is have you ever been a member of the Communist Party? Many of the dishonest scaremongering attacks are being made by people who never say a word against us-backed dictators despots or death squads for the most part. These forces are happy to get in bed with dictators and human rights abusers if fits their political or in the case of Mike Bloomberg Business Interests Bloomberg not too long ago was Yukking it up with Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia enjoying a Venti starbucks as he stood next to a man who oversees one of the most brutal dictatorships in the world and murders journalists. Boomberg makes a ton of money doing business with the Chinese Communist Party and its leaders. Joe Biden was a key player in the start of the genocidal Saudi bombing campaign in Yemen. Let's not even talk about any of their positions on Israel and the Palestinians. Here's the major difference between those attacking Sanders and Bernie Sanders himself. Sanders has consistently opposed. Us Gemini that's why they attack him. These people don't care about human rights unless it fits their agenda if you actually listen to what sanders has said about left wing governments. He constantly offers nuance. He calls out authoritarianism and anti-democratic policies. Just compare Bernie Sanders analysis of China that of Mike Bloomberg who makes tremendous money off of China. Here's Bloomberg shaping not a dictator. He has to satisfy his constituents. Or He's not gonNA survive. Here's a constituency to to to to Answer to vote. He doesn't have a democracy. And now here's Bernie Sanders. I happen to believe in democracy not car carrying China's and other all right. China is an authoritarian country. Becoming more and more authoritarian. But can anyone deny I mean? The facts are clear that they've taken more people out of extreme poverty than any country in history criticized. Because I'd say that that's the truth. Bernie Sanders Crime. That is inspiring. These attacks against him is that he the audacity to acknowledge the good that has come from popular revolutions. That happened to be opposed to the politics of US. Empire and none. I mean none of the people attacking him ever want to discuss context or the bloody role of the US. In these countries that's the trip wire that sanders crossed throughout his career. That makes them hate him so much. Today is this one right here on economy. There's this there's no way around that. This is bad as as you know who saying they were good people on both sides. It's the same. It's the same thing. There's no way to get. I don't agree. Oh I do once you start saying well you know you know. It wasn't so bad because he say that but no. He didn't say that but to Cuban person is just as bad I agree. I don't endorse political candidates and I do not think that Bernie Sanders is some sort of political savior. I have my disagreements with some sanders policy and record. We've discussed some of those on this show and by the way there are a lot of leftists in this country who believe that sanders is being too harsh condemnations of Cuba or are opposed to sanders positions on for instance strikes and some US Wars Bernie. Sanders is not a revolutionary socialist. He's a democratic socialist. And with all that said Bernie Sanders has proven himself since two thousand sixteen to be a great vehicle for change certainly within the constraints and corruption of the US electoral system but both within and outside the electoral process Bernie Sanders has made possible. The building of an incredibly diverse horizontal movement that could radically transform this country and the world for the better. And he's done it by lifting up the movements and people and Communities. Who have been doing this work far longer than sanders has been running for president. And that's the key this campaign who is the only candidates to break up ice and Bernie Sanders. That matters all of this matters. And when it comes to politics you get what you pay for and when you have candidates bankrolled by billionaires who are they going to work for what do you think they're going to work for Bernie Sanders is an imperfect messenger for sure but he has done? The work kept focus and inspired so many people across racial economic gender and ethnic lines to fight for something bigger than themselves. Remember that when you watch the desperate smears against him remember that what they are really trying to stop has nothing to do with Fidel Castro or the Sandinistas or Bernie Sanders honeymoon. This is about stopping the masses of people who are sick and tired of a system that is based on oppression and rooted in defense of a system where the rich and powerful rule. All of our lives the Bernie Sanders Campaign for president is without question the best chance that people have had in this country to nominate someone in our limited electoral system that would truly represent a historic break the best chance since the campaign of Jesse Jackson for the Democratic nomination in nineteen eighty eight the Democratic presidential race has come alive but not the way most people expected Jesse Jackson's big victory in the Michigan caucuses. Last night was almost two over. Michael Dukakis who has been the leader in the Democratic race. We the people can win. This is who are the people who is the people. With Jesse. Jackson ran an insurgent campaign where he had to not only fight for votes across the country but also fight the Democratic Party establishment systematic white supremacy and both race and red baiting and Jackson came close to winning the nomination pulling in more than twelve hundred. Delegates profits go up which is down in jobs. Let's change that situation Dukakis but three to five million dollars three million dollars plus the old thousand dollars which is message instead the party back the more establishment white candidate and the exact same lines that are currently being used to attack Bernie Sanders saying he won't be viable candidate in the general election against trump. Those were used against Jesse Jackson going up against George. H W Bush vice president to Ronald Reagan. Michael Dukakis who was the Democratic nominee in nineteen eighty eight would go on to lose that election to Bush who won forty states in the electoral college and the popular vote. Every one of these funded label they put on you though. Will this broadcast tonight in the projects on the corners? I understand call. Ya Cast lowdown came. Make your nothing from nobody class on the class. When you see Jesse Jackson with my name in nomination your name goes in nomination. I was born in the slum for this law was not born in me and the one going in you and you can make you can make stick your chest out. You could make. It gets doc sometimes but the morning poems don't you surrender suffering breeze kind of Charles. The breeze fade in the end paid to support. You must not surrender. You may or may not get back projects qualified and you hold on hold out. We must never surrender a medical get better and better keep hope alive. We will never know what would have happened. If Jesse Jackson had been the Democratic nominee in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight or if he had been the vice presidential candidate instead of Texas. Senator Lloyd Bentsen. But what we do know is that throughout modern history. The favored candidates of the democratic establishment during the primaries. Do not exactly have a stellar record in the general election. Jesse Jackson is still fighting the fights he always has. He's campaigning for economic and racial justice. Even as he battles the affliction of Parkinson's Disease Jackson is currently on the ground in South Carolina. Where he says he's not endorsing any candidate at this point in the race his focus he says is to register people to vote in the state of his birth. This Week Jackson has a new column in the Chicago. Sun-times confronting the scaremongering surrounding the term Democratic Socialism. It's titled The important word. Democratic Socialism is democratic joining me now from Columbia. South Carolina is the legendary civil rights activist former presidential candidate. The Reverend Jesse Jackson he won the South Carolina Democratic primary in both one thousand nine hundred eighty four and nineteen eighty eight Reverend Jackson. Thank you so much for being with us on intercepted before we talk about the specifics of Democratic Socialism. What's your response to these? Red baiting attacks against Senator Bernie Sanders seems to me if Bloomberg wonder feet trump run against trump and republican primary. This race began a year ago. He said the first ten rounds of the fight. The U on the fighting you live with around. He's I people tied and broke it. Kind of runs. Rochon them GRANDPA's rule. Do not make sense to me and have a white primary voters. And then you have New Hampshire. You Have Nevada and soft. Lana you the bother South Carolina Michigan Illinois on the Front side as a New Hampshire number. One number two. I think that you also have a situation. Where different parts of Super Tuesday? We knew it to be from California one beverage in America's California warrant that Rhode Island in one day. Is that against people who have no have much money. If you had. South Carolina Nevada Michigan Illinois come Harrison Buca was seven chance in Castro. They got wiped out in white bread. Moore's exhausting this time in the Monday Super Tuesday. We run from California to Rhode Island in the same day. Rational person has adopted from coast to coast. Was that kind of money. Burned sentences shown where he can compete. He does well. What is going to be difficult? Tuition competing vote in fifteen states on the same day while and he's going to be facing this onslaught of negative attack ads from Mike Bloomberg. Who's worth sixty billion dollars tech and burn about ten some Nice about Castro mentioned Batista? Things have people in context. I mean Batista. Cuban scene rollins for the rich and the gangsters because we merges in that situation and the people he was authoritarian but extremely began extremes. So I'm concerned that even the capsule thing is seen as Democrat in the same season from Nineteen Fifty. Five thousand blast been lynched. Almost new president the thing about the the thing about it. You Know Reverend Jackson at the same time that we have these attack ads running against Bernie Sanders and this relation of Bernie Sanders comments during the period of the US dirty wars in central and Latin America you have this demonization of Sanders going on. Because he calls himself a democratic socialist. If I know my history correctly the late Dr Martin Luther King and of course you were with Dr Martin Luther King at the Lorraine Motel. You were there in the trenches everyday organizing in civil rights movement. Dr King also was red baited. Dr King also spoke of a democratic socialism and against savage capitalism. The operative word is democracy of one by the people we had democracy. And listen you. Cou exists democracy in women's right the boot coexist in democracy has denied the right to vote. So there's the socialize. The process helps here and job wages. I think they could choose. Those doesn't say Venezuela Cuba China in Bertha Cattle Roosevelt socialis rodent to polls the social security will almost the country subscriptions distance from rugged individualism Pool and substitute for the wealthy even today the socialism the rich true the have the tax cut deliveries and pay. No taxes does socialism in State Highway Socialism the military a social institution universities. The bridges supports ferruginous. Ruth Resistance Does always say now. Reverend Jackson it seems that on the one hand you have Bernie Sanders running against Donald trump you have Bernie sanders running against his competitors in the Democratic primary but I would also assert that in a clear sense Bernie Sanders is also running against the DNC. The elite of the Democratic Party's leadership and really arcane rules that you also faced when you ran for president particularly in nineteen eighty-eight that seem to want to give the power brokers the shadow brokers of the Democratic Party. The final word on who the nominee is going to be. What is your assessment of the way that the Democratic Party governs itself during these primaries and specifically regarding the Sanders campaign that will emission do rent puzzlement to the action? Mold stops all campaign. Burning represents a vast by people and destroy him to some unjust situation. Deportable will not be reconciled. They burn the inland war on on the same history in terms of sense of humanity and a sense of the projection legal protection protection there. Those who've been lockout talk a little bit about the campaign that was waged against you by powerful people in the Democrat Party when you ran your incredibly inspiring run for president in the nineteen eighties. Both eighty four and eighty eight will the notion that could not win was the UH buildings. All we got double digits without a budget. We've got four hundred plus in eighty four with less than ten million dollars budget and they'd be making but we've got twelve hundred delegates. What happened was ended. Willett all but proportionality so if Hillary Wins California Ohio Pennsylvania and Texas in away if you plan about it eight four rules. She's the winner Hillerman bedroom million votes and loses in eighteen. We win by lamb. Eagles lose ascendancy. So this is a fair rules become critical to making them work right now. Of course we're on the eve of the first primary of the Democratic campaign where a sizeable number of African Americans are going to be voting of course in South Carolina. Joe Biden has referred to African American voters in South Carolina as his firewall. And at the same time we have Joe Biden on the campaign trail. Sorry to say it. But it has to be blunt flagrantly lying about his record in the civil rights movement. And I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the way that Joe Biden talks about black voters and the way that he has invented details from his biography in an effort to try to get African Americans to vote for him. Blacks himself a million voters as the big deal. Here in South Carolina is seen as a connected to barack nude ticket to balance the ticket not enhance it. Rose against the Iraq war. He was funny. Right War rousing the Crime Bill. Graham bill a rock was supposedly to heal and the Madden Niclas where the Supreme Court as a monument his leadership in committee so his proximity to Munroe impression he is average civilized clearer than it is and even Bloomberg Money Bloomberg's ads him in Morocco. So clear under this confusing you they'd be will in the same room all of them me but Barack has not objected all the Bloomberg commercials. If you're at all even Cheney's commercial or apparatus he's salads mission to the Bloomberg do that is a factor in this equation. You know on that same question. Regarding Barack Obama he now is producing films for net flicks. And he's been largely silent throughout these three years of Donald Trump. And some would say well that's presidential decorum and he's a former president. He needs to be careful but if there was a moment in history of this country that screamed out for a former president to speak out against the current president. Wouldn't it have been this moment? Reverend Jackson with Donald Trump in the White House Barack Obama to actually speak out consistently against what he is doing in silent in the face of trump on all of us have rising social justice agenda items that censure when this baby is down the boarder trumping the central bog. Five has more should be killed. Even after they found the Charlottesville Rennes record. And I wish president in willing to speak out against but it is his right to be silent but I wish he will use his voice direction. Dispirit Reverend Jackson. Do you have hope that if Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic nomination that it will fundamentally change the nature of the Democratic Party because I think in in a heads up mass with with trump we would be different choices. Between trump's extreme right wing accident rhetoric and our call the moral center in other words would send. The ribbon is not the left wing. Is Tomorrow's healthy ever by is moral pool without Salone is the moral center? Milley's policy recognizes Bella status the most center when you launched your bid for the presidency in nineteen eighty eight one of the only publicly elected officials in the country to endorse you was Bernie Sanders and sanders when he announced his campaign for the US Congress spent much of his time in that announcement. Actually talking about you and your campaign for president. I'm wondering if you can put Bernie Sanders in a historical context when we talk about the whole arc of American history and what this campaign represents today will really resist direction that complexion you should have a and We want Vermont of why the state in the country. I recognize that. I've not go against Bernie but I'm not made decision indoors. Anybody we talk. I showed him observations in the one vicious about another at this point. I think that somehow biting that lousy air balloons is not sound judgment. We were saying no the class. He said Yes it can summers. The cranberry said yes. Sir Granville Mill direct ways that yes the right war difference is right to be there. But he member owned his history. What is your analysis of why so many members of the Congressional Black Caucus have lined up behind? Joe Biden eluded. He couldn't lose machinery in lineup. Follow by but he's Mrs just paint about people. I'm sure what modern means. People don't have affordable healthcare model of moderate means to us to us. Are there any ways in which you think that a Bloomberg presidency would be fundamentally better than a trump presidency again? Answer the two of them it would be. This style is the same. I thought Jaren leadership but Bloomberg has these different than trump's game but while trump to gain favor extreme redway do you think that a ticket of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth? Warren Beats Donald Trump and Mike pence as they can Virginia like. I'm sure I'm not sure it would be broadened up. I believe it takes two ways of Latte liberal right wing and there's narrow biden wash rush right wing with barack out midnight but the right way Reverend Jackson. Is there any other message that you want to give people? You are a native son of South Carolina. I know and I'm wondering what your messages here. On the eve of the South Carolina primary and then after that Super Tuesday I was born here. I was bliss. One distinct twice led the both burn their handy little poem get Mel Pinon about what I see in the state. I'm excited about the fact that there are not a million plus blacks in the state registered to vote so they will not eighteen year old voting and then the colors voters verse. Difficult in the campaign was Bernie. Sanders has done. Bruce run a rainbow coalition type campaign is often in these bill will fund them women loyal or for this is a difficult for them to beat. Brennan Lizard to something. That is so ugly until it will embarrass me and disgusts me the most that we mesa metropolis left with years we made so much progress. We must not go back. We're not going back. That's what this on. The trump isn't it's another back enormous campaign. Why it's been big benefits about seventy in South Carolina. Jay Black? He's may be black and white was together on that note. Thank you very much. Reverend Jackson for being with us. The Reverend Jesse Jackson is a legendary civil and human rights leader and founder of the Rainbow. Push Coalition. He's also a former Democratic presidential candidate. His latest column at rainbow-push Dot Org is titled the Important Word and Democratic Socialism is democratic. What with the South Carolina primary coming up this Saturday Joe Biden is basically in a statistical dead heat with Bernie Sanders if the polls are to be believed as Biden suffered defeats in Iowa and New Hampshire. He has spent weeks piling all of his eggs into the South Carolina basket and referring to the state with two thirds of Democratic voters African American as his quote firewall of support. And I think I have a firewall in South Carolina. I been calling a firewall. You'll have in an interview. This week with intercepted sanders senior campaign surrogate. Nina Turner said she found Biden's use of the term firewall offensive to African American voters. It is incredibly insulting to the African American community that any elected official consider US their firewall and it is shameful United States of America. Because this is not just about. Vice President Biden. It really is about the how people navigate politics in this country when it comes to the African American Voting Block. That somehow we're thought of somebody's fire while we the only ethnic group only ratio group in this country where. Democrats already lay out weird firewall for this party and needs to come to a stop on Saturday. As voters head to the polls in South Carolina we shall see if Joe Biden is able to break Bernie Sanders. Winning streak a streak. That has been grounded in months and in fact years of grassroots organizing across the country. It's important to keep in mind. How quickly narratives shift particularly in political primary campaign season? If we rewind the clock to media coverage from months or even weeks ago the mainstream consensus was that Bernie Sanders was winning states because they were mainly white voters and that the real test would be one. Sanders hit the more diverse states of Nevada and South Carolina and Super Tuesday particularly with Bernie Sanders and Pete Buddha. Jack booted is a rent registered. Almost no support among black voters. And I think that's very problematic. And it's their job to reach black voter in the Nevada caucus. It was the broad coalition of support from the Latin next community and from union workers that propelled sanders to a decisive victory and it was particularly because of that support from the Latin x community that he was able to win the Latin x vote in a landslide. Three networks of the we have now one Nevada caucus intercepted producer. Laura Flynn was on the ground in Nevada during the caucuses with Aida Chavez reporter for the intercept aidas piece which I recommend everyone read is called. How Young Latinos delivered Nevada to Te'o Bernie that's at the intercept dot com? Here is Laura Flynn's report from Las Vegas on how Bernie one Nevada with Toyota though. Unleash Bernie Sanders. So that's the Pizza Riola speaking interceptor. Porter Aida Alvarez about why she supports Bernie Sanders. It's Thursday night just a few days before the Nevada Caucus. We're in a strip mall in East Las Vegas at a Spanish language caucus training hosted by the sanders campaign. Balenciaga the Latino Press Secretary for Bernie Twenty Twenty explains so what is going to happen at this caucus. Training is that we are going to explain what a caucus is How you participate in it and why. It's important for people to go on Saturday. And so this training is taking place at the offices of make the road action which is an organization mobilizing immigrant in working class communities on issues like economic justice immigration and housing among others colorful posters lined. The walls with slogans reading families belong together and the school to prison pipeline housing justice for Nevada and Medicare for all the organization actually officially endorsed Sanders last month. Just before the training get started. I eat an I meet Christopher Santo. He began volunteering for Bernie Sanders in two thousand fifteen when he was only fifteen years old. Now that he's old enough to vote he's ready to caucus for him. I think it's huge difference. When you talk about Bernie Sanders Angel binding. 'cause when Alec Burney thing of change like Joe Biden thing there is no fundamental change. Our occur and he's convinced his parents and other family members to support sanders as well. These ideas are so radical them like free college agreement. Deal Medicare for all and then when you actually have a serious conversation senior from our lands. They really start to change that like what he wanted occasion for. Odds GONNA ruin the system. Make people motivated. And they're like why not you know my whole generation. My friend my family. There are drowning in student. Loan debt. Why do you think Bernie has such overwhelming support from Latinos? I think a lot of as do education for our because specifically my family my parents. They really wanted me to go to college. I did at one point and go to college. I had to leave because it started getting very expensive education very important and Latino families and when you can go to college because of money. It's it's really difficult. I think Medicare for all as well. I think when I grew up my family was they were immigrants. Now they're citizens thank God and I remember sick and my mom's like oh no we can't go to a hospital. It's cost too much. And just those two policies in itself Medicare Fraud Education for all makes Latino Support Bernie this caucus training conducted completely in Spanish is just one of many examples of the sanders campaign efforts to reach. Latino voters in Nevada on Monday. Actually eat it was out covering campaign organized soccer tournament also on the east side of the city at the end of the day. They're all these areas in communities. Where Bernie is only one showing up. Tom Star can drop however many millions that he wants on ads by. You can only manufacturer like a sern surge like there's a ceiling on that to get above are in any way you're going to need actual human beings who care about your message enough to campaign for you east. Las Vegas is one of the communities. The Sanders campaign is invested a lot of organizing efforts in. Its where they opened their first field office in the state. It's one of the most populated parts of Las Vegas and we're Latinos make up more than sixty percent of residents. Good morning runaway at Desert Pines High School Has a pretty big Latino population or they're in that precinct until we're GONNA check it out it's caucus day where at desert pines high school just down the street from the training in soccer tournament the downpour rain has just led up. We cross the parking lot skipping over puddles in find supporters passing out buttons and signs for Tom. Steyer Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. Were you sign in as well for me? Yeah how many precincts are I would have to go. Look at the list. They're twelve precincts caucusing here today. One of the first people we talked to is Pablo Montoya. I'm a first generation Mexican American. My parents are Mexico. My mom is from while how school my dad is from So basically I'm the first of my family here to actually be able to vote. Who Do you support Bernie Sanders? I used to wear them. I really think America's ready for change. Now I really think that the young people right now have gotten the raw end of the deal right now. Nobody has listened to us for a really long time while he's here to caucus for Sanders. His second choice is Elizabeth Warren. Because he believes both are trying to build a new Democratic Party and are pushing policies that will directly impact. The lives of millennials like him. I think we're actually ready to take on. The older generation. Actually make change happen right now for generation for something better for we knew deal for everything that's going on for affordable college for something that actually benefits not only the rich and the and the billionaires and all of them in the precinct next. Pablo's I spot someone from the Caucus Trini you. My name is jellicoe medal. She's wearing a new knee. Those Bernie sure. Why do you support Bernie? Why because he's We all my morale for men. They finally these descent lines is why because this metaphor and college free call us for everybody to. I'm I I'm border too so I am really privileged for do this turns out. She's also part of the Culinary Union where she works as a housekeeper on the Strip in the lead up to the election the powerful union pass out scorecards saying Sanders Medicare for all would quote end culinary healthcare. Okay that Culinary Union Grade Union but I need to think with my Har- saw and what I think is we. Everybody need health insurance. Everybody from the calculator. I did this. Math rate eight point eight five seven wind for Bernie as a caucus began voters. Start to split into their preferred candidate groups in each saint became increasingly evident that sanders is leading to encourage voters to support sanders anonymity. Archie LA CO Executive Director of the Center for popular. Democracy starts to cry. I eat a records her with her phone by tearing up I think a vast majority of people sitting in the Bernie side of Caucus Brown People Moseley who believe that the world is possible that it is entirely within reach to have health care and free college and to end deportations. And I'm so moved by the hopefulness of people in a moment of so much as a Caucasus. Wrap up Annamaria sits down with me in the Desert Pines High School courtyard leaving her home in New York to join the campaign in Nevada and help get out the vote. Her job today is to speak to. Voters who's candidates aren't viable in convince them to vote for Sanders. I asked people to imagine what it would feel like to live in a country where we don't have to worry about losing healthcare if we change jobs if we move to another state I asked him to imagine what it would be like for our kids to go to college without being saddled by massive debt. I asked them to imagine what it would be like to live in a country where we're not constantly worried about deportations and I said if you like that vision that enjoying the Verney campaign. It's her first time campaigning. In presidential primary but she understands that Tinos are playing an important role in the elections and that Sanders is taking it. Seriously what do you think about? Sanders efforts to reach out and Organiz the Latino community throughout the country. His campaign has done such a good job. They I really engaged community organizations to shape their platform I know that they asked us what what should go into the immigration platform. What should go into the housing platform and then he has been so courageous at talking? You know by saying that he will include immigrants in healthcare that yes he will include immigrants in his promise of Free College And he will do a moratorium on deportation so I think the way that he has been bold and courageous on his issues has really Allowed people to kind of build deep trust and then on the ground like be. His campaign is amazing. Yesterday I spent some time Volunteering knocking on doors and the gathering the training happen in someone's living room. It was like twenty people high school students. A couple of teachers from the High School Some parents With you know. Blantyre's playing in the background and all of getting ready to knock on doors. So it's it feels compelled feels like that gathering felt like a gathering at my House. You know And it felt very familiar and very much like this campaign was mine. I think another thing that has been really important. Ny Bernie's coalition looks different today than it did in two thousand sixteen is because He has really his campaign has really made a very big effort to connect with organizations people's Organizations Movement Organization so Myron station the Center for Popular Democracy. Action is a network of community organizations. We endorse him after a long process of evaluating his platform and meeting with him and meeting with other candidates His campaign Was able to attract the endorsement of the sunrise movement of People's Action of Michigan Network of letting x people across the country. And I think they are. They know by the way that they courted These endorsement that they cannot do it alone that they cannot build a movement just from a political campaign And that they cannot win alone and they respect and value people who are organized and it showed up here in Las Vegas. They worked very closely with make the road action and Organisation of Immigrants Who actually had a huge rally just a week ago here in these high school in Desert Pines high school. Almost two thousand Dino's came and then marched with Bernie to an early voting site So that has been a really important different thing and many of the unions have sat out usually in presidential elections. The People's organizations that have like power are the unions but many of them have chosen to just sit back and watch the process play out which created a huge vacuum that community organization stepped And community organizations are connected with people in the neighborhoods in a way that you know no one can match so that has been part of the secret sauce of the Verney campaign. Unlike the days it took for the Iowa results to finalize in Nevada within a matter of hours of the Caucasus closing Bernie Sanders was the projected winner sanders. Actually one. More than seventy percent of the Latino vote in Nevada according to the UCLA Latino politics and Policy Initiative giving his victory speech from San Antonio Texas Sanders gratitude went out to the people in organizations. Who helped him get there? Let me thank the People. Nevada battle for their support in Nevada. We have put together a multi generational multi reg racial coalition which is going to not only win in Nevada. It's GONNA sweep this country in Nevada and in New Hampshire and Iowa what we showed. Is that our. Volunteers are prepared to knock on hundreds and hundreds of thousands of doors. No campaign has a grassroots movement. Like we do. Which is another reason why we're GonNa win this election in Nevada? I WANNA thank our rank and file union members. I WANNA thank make the road and all of the grassroots organizations. That helped us win there Monday. I call senior advisor to the Sanders. Campaign Chuck Rocha to find out how strategy in Nevada compared to efforts in other states. Much like we've done with our Latino Strategies are African American outreaches reflective of the same values. Where in South Carolina for example over eighty percent of our staff are people of Color and predominantly African? American and over eighty percent of that staff is from South Carolina so again Li organizing in those communities where that staff has been on the ground. Well over seven. Months is the key to securing that people of Color Black and Brown voters are used to Democrats coming into their neighborhoods two weeks before the election asking for their boats lack. All of these candidates are doing right now. But we've been in those these working over seven months similarly in Texas and California Major Super Tuesday states. They set up offices months ago. Launching robots on the ground organizing efforts the Keita Bernie Sanders. Success is not just the issues which are super important but it's actually taking time especially in black inbound communities to spend the time in the communities even asking them for their vote. People WANNA know. What are these grandiose policy positions and nuances that really move people to vote the way you get people to go to their neighborhood and you ask them to vote and you give them a reason? That's what Bernie Sanders has done. When you've got community organizers behind you it's not so shocking to realize how the sanders campaign one three states more than anyone. They understand what it takes to build a movement That report from intercepted producer. Laura Flynn make sure to also check out my colleague. Aida Vez is peace. How Young Latinos delivered Nevada to Te'o Bernie it's at the intercept dot com. And that does it for this week show. You can follow us on twitter at intercepted an instagram at intercepted podcast. If you missed it this week we put up a bonus episode on Tuesday featuring Nina Turner as as Brianna Joy. Gray the national campaign press secretary for Bernie Sanders. If you like what we do on this program you can support our show by going to the intercept dot com slash join to become a sustaining member intercepted his production of first look media and the intercept or lead producer is jacked as Dorrell. Our producer is Laura Flynn Elise Swain. Our associate producer and graphic designer. That's he read is editor in Chief of the intercept Rick Quan mixed the show transcription for this program is done by Nudie America's Martinez Our music as always was composed by Dj Spooky until next week. I'm Jeremy Scahill.

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