15 Episode results for "Cca."
Can you use old railroad ties around the garden?
"Hi, this is Mark news from plant talk radio. Thanks for subscribing and listening to our podcast your gardening questions from plan. Talk radio to help keep this podcast free for you were partnering with stoke seeds preplanned your indoor seeds starting program with the help of the all new Stokes website, now mobile and tablet friendly. The new website is a brand new gardening experience. It offers better interactivity and higher quality imagery. But what hasn't changed is the Stokes website is still the complete resource center with valuable information on seed starting planting and harvesting all the gardening accessories and a free catalog, whether you're adding texture a new variety for a splash of color developing an existing garden or starting from scratch stoke seeds has some great resources to help you. Plus, all the gardening accessories. You need to make your garden the envy of the neighborhood get growing with Stokes. Now. Today's question as wondering what you thought about using treated lumber old railroad ties or telephone poles for rage. Beds or landscaping would the chemicals in those Leach out and harm like flowers or vegetables for humans or pollinators. These is. Yes. But now the yes part I know that that that the CCA treated lumber and the old railroad ties do have toxic qualities that is part of what keeps the fungi from eating them up. So I know also that both have been used for a very long time. I would make the bed wide Nuff that the first plant from the inner edge of tie would be at least a foot in from the railroad. Tie it self. Okay, now, there will be some some leaching out into the soil. How much depends on how fresh they are at cetera a well-treated old timber. Well, I don't know how long it lasts under the railroad track. But it can last a long time in the garden. This is good. If you can find some that have gotten old enough to what I'm simply going to call mellowed out been less toxic on the surface. So that you don't get burned by by on your on your oh that just reminds me when we used to use those the guys would wear sweat shirt leaves, and I sweat shirt sleeves on their bear arms. They weren't touching it. Because on a warm day will burn your skin literally. Now, the newer CCA type things I've been given different stories on. I've seen them used. I've seen plants let's call it near the wood edge and with within that I foot and no problem. And then I've never heard of anybody going to the hospital with toxic problems. And then I don't know. I don't know about the bees. I I'm not sure about that. But I think if the plant is otherwise healthy, I don't think it would be ingesting enough of any toxin that wouldn't kill the plant that would therefore not get up into the flower part. So I I don't know how to answer you for sure on that. There's probably some information again on gardening dot com or the information we just listed at OSU EDU at cetera. Thanks again. For listening to the podcast. Remember preplanned your indoor seed starting program with the help of Stokes gardening guide and their online articles on their brand new website now mobile and tablet friendly and request your free catalog while you're online for the best selection of vegetable flower and herb seeds available go to stoke seeds dot com. Call waiting successful growers for generations.
Podcast: UBoss automates the back office, enables improved margins, customized solutions
"This is the green on the publisher of Telecom Reseller, and this is a special podcasts for the cloud communications alliance and TR publications and I have with me today in Senate is the vice president of sales for Dart Communications he and thank you for joining me today. Hey. Doug delighted to join you you lucky. Catch me in normally I know I'm not. I haven't been after five months. Well I think as one of the things we'll be talking about today and our podcast is maybe even the definition of being in and out and being in the office concern. Maybe that's all about to change. But WE'RE GONNA dive into that. So Dean Dear de Communications, actually kind of a diversified companies that right? And yes. But we're we're we're we're a good choice nick great working in the same space. But we have three trading styles and essentially with the F. Christ comes alliance we have brand you go. Evokes. multi. Multi level type management platform and WE BASE IT around provisioning and management of protest. but we. Also manage lots of other applications and services. From the brutal community sit around the protest by itself. And in home to service, is that the Pothole is can take market. So you say it's all principal international play. We'd go From North America. Dan. To Australian and and We're a nice community of people who are trying to deliver real cloud solutions to customer bases across the globe. But within dod we also have our UK Pro Platform Business been it'll roy pay and. Pay Is providing a white label, wholesale proposition two you distributors and resellers, and again all based around the power of the. Cloud Management Platform and. That ratings to the product creation, pro management, and all the way through two zero touch billing. Now I think You bosses face that you show to the CCA community is that right? Yeah, absolutely, and and you know again with all work in in the US, going to the broad scope shows and meeting with some of the guys from the CCA we saw to to get to know the CPA and and get involved in the conversation and I have to say one of the. Important things we get back from that community that we we learned so much about what's happening in the real world and happening in the delivery of services for channel and what's happening in the different marketplaces, and it's such a place to sort of care. experiences an and knowledge about the customers themselves and what we're trying to do support them. To Washington lost year which The ben this year it's virtual with Austria think it's one of the biggest learning experiences I've had in wattage quite alone communications career So yeah, it's a great environment for us to be involved in and this has helped us. You know you go development and what we try to take to marketplace. and I think pinch lost. Yeah We have developed. The management capabilities for at least four. Applications. To. Add to the the portal have we already have protests in? Calcutta But go into greater from Dogu Kick See Tango Chairman, and when just completing a whole load of work on the Webex products. So the key into the bro sex of the Webex for roadworks Sweet. I'm not really powered up what is a great coke switch embroiled soft but ally. at ewbal. Transformed the automation into a into a much more widespread, finally clever applications themselves. So. If I'm coming to the cloud of I'm in the CCA via that Webex Platform, which I think about if people are why do I need you boss? Well you don't automating the backoffice it's about reducing the cost and affecting the margin by managing the business behind the scenes really well, the the pressure on client communications companies to know deliver real time on demand services the grubbing pressure or the growing faction to move towards self service and comas main the the automation tools have to link up various if not jeff's the provisioning over core platform, but the management of billing events, the the management of contract terms. the access, the secure access at multiple levels, and that includes distributors and resellers as well as customers themselves. They've gotta be reporting. There's gotta be diligent. We go to support compliance to various things that cold recording and customer data management. So a lot of what we deliver to a customer, it's the ability to take their product to market to layer on their revenues or selling a core product, and then cross selling and up selling customer data the time but to do with a limited a human touch and human cost of can be achieved. And and so. You know the marketplaces evolved off focus on missile mation pizza central automation. Make. Peaches really all. Is that automation so important Well, a lot of the services that we deliver a targeted the productivity but individual. So you know as a platform as of platform and have been. In the UK. We are talking down to the green working from home and have the grade working from hung blocks to work so. cellphones, meeting rooms, visit, Mike Yourself Change Webex, and did something else that you want to integrate in using coal recording and you've got to do you need a GM Sam that works. A, native all of your brought off so that you can go run up the hills and still be in touch. You'll supply needs to articulate the right solution for you, and that means a lot of products and a lot of products than cost very much. So, if you've got a thirty day contract on low-yield product, you king three, four, five dollars. You can't really involves human touch it and not still to make profit. well, it's customers especially now are in the flux and maybe trying and changing few products here and so forth to mention. The importance of automation has increased many fold in the last couple of years but in the last five months, it's just being. rocketed up the must have. tables. Now, in terms of the customers you deal directly with them or do you deal through agents and channels? Well in, you know you both slant with dealing directly with brought of Clapham. So as I said from North America Australia anybody WHO's GonNa throw platform you both mostly language multi-currency see and we can hostal things like coal recording, service, even country but we do directly was brought to Plattsburgh Leonard where the main APR SEC would I developed, and as I said, these additional applications really different, we're catering for much wider. Sweet. in the UK we deal through. the reseller community We're turning them into virtual platform owners and we're giving them the same sort of tools and capabilities to go to market. But these guys without losing control rugby shifts of the the The customer can focus on their sales marketing efforts and have a small lean effective first line support eighty managing the customer experience. You know what we've been talking. In this podcast has another's about the sort of very sped up evolution have the landscape, and it comes to mind that the landscape is now filled with some giants We have Google looming around and apple looming around but most importantly we have Microsoft teams. and I know that a lot of the members of the CCA are in some ways responding to that. So how does teams in what you're doing, Linka Think you're absolutely right and you can probably add Amazon a couple of others to the sort of growing John you expect to see in your space. But what is interesting and separates Microsoft's teams to the rest is the ability of Microsoft to reach straight through to the customer level. So I think they represent coitus right? They've got a really great product and we've been able to evolve with companies like unify the ability to Lincoln to Microsoft teams and create some voice services against Microsoft teams proposition. What that way to a degree but he's important for us I I think important for the whole roadworks community. To be able to bring through an articulated this Webex. Because it offers a very similar kind of service and experiencing collaboration teamwork and flexibility, and all that sort of thing. But through a an environmental, which we can more closely control the cups to marrone the ship. and. The partner who is less likely let's face. It just left capable of reaching straight into the business community and the way Microsoft teams can take. So I think for all you both partners and seventy for UK business. This is as much about long-term defense attack, but it is with you. Both productivity comes in allowing people to bring together a blamed services to create differentiation choice and as we said at the. Meeting lost year when we were examining the threat of protest and broad climate and things like that. If you look much like your supplier you are. Making it more difficult to defend your value in the marketplace. But. When you start to blame things up when you start to offer a breadth of choice that the giants really just can't get. then you then you produce a secure revenue stream. So I think this whole conversation client giants, He's something that we should. Be Mindful of because if we're not off, we can get numbers giant but we've been in the marketplace for a long time. We've been very good at it. We'll good entrepreneurs. So I think we can stay nimble. We can stay schoff and we can blend stuff together and we can deliver real value to the customer long term. You know I'm kind of fascinated by this dinosaur analogy because it the way you're describing the giants is sort of that You know stereotypical crumbs be slow moving not very precise delivery of services. versus kind of Nimble and very exacting kind of thing. I think they won't people to do is to just fall into line with the providence steam that they can produce and to a certain degree unless CEOS people unless marketing message disturbed people enough don't try something else. That can easily all you know. You just follow. You know these guys do a lot of good stuff for you. So it is up to us to make sure the people try and experienced stuff, and again if you go to the importance of an automated back office. the Freeman product the puppy dog close the try it can't. Go with it Mr Costa. He's going to be important if you're going to stop them having a linear attitude to the products that they don't. Come back nineteen made everybody change made ever go to tests and stuff I we're we're not gonNA have that experience backing yourself every time we get stuck in Iraq. We're GONNA need to be able to get. Customers in the mindset to chase productivity but not chase it through one supply chain. Treat some Innov- IF LITTLE BRANDY IT INEVITABLY APPLICATIONS But in order to do that cost effectively and retain margin. It's gotta be able to my. Is a close up our podcast and we're talking about today the very important of you bosses products. At Vail ability to the CCA we come back again and again to automation and I think I'm hearing you know without automation you're not going to be profitable. Yeah I think the very real worry for people that they can deliver a great service to the customer and end up not making a profit and all of entrepreneurial businesses want to achieve that. and. In order to retain a differentiation in order to grow molecule. These small products. To play and we're having small increments. But as we said, a couple of times, you can't add moving with a high human cost and. Profit, so To, mention automation automation and I think with the knowledge crisis going on in the little in the wall and and the change in focus from traditional telephony they choose meeting spaces and and and virtualization etc. I think we'll see the adoption of. ECOMMERCE. The. Tenure and below marketplace. Really take off in the next. Twelve months I. Think we'll see. A much greater growth in sort of self adoption going through. So I think the. The customer's ability and the easily should've of our clients ability to deliver automation You know very compatible. So I think it's all about that, but it's not just for us. It's For the customer as well. So we need it to make profit. The customer will expect it in order to be delivering and Testing and trying their own application services I think last time we. I said my favorite line. If you go to mobile phone, you don't go to the mobile phone shop to get an you don't just put an APP on it from the APP, store US put it out right? That's where we're heading. It's it's it's it's not new I it's being done by the mobile guys before but I think we're all in a good line. Here we go to good. You books if we've got a good automation platform and we've got a broad selection of really productive applications, then we retain all value and for value customers will pace. Now. And that not and I think we'll wrap up today's podcast but I think it's been very interesting and insightful the importance of automation and the importance of having sort of a tool to basically counter the the giants in cloud space. That's a a bit of a headline. And we're we're happy to be working with real professional innovators and I think I'm delighted to see the response we're getting for the the work. We I mean we a hundred people in our development team. So they're the heroes of the product that have producing I. Think they're responding well to the feedback that environments like the CCA give us. An and that helps develop the tools that the marketplace needs not. To we dream up over a glass of red. Wine. Well I look forward to having a glass of red wine with you and the other members in person in the future. But for now, we're GONNA have to continue to do this virtually. Where can we learn more about Dr, De Communications and you bought? At well, about for sure we've got a a virtual and halter virtual whatever you call it when you. Presenting Standard Virtual show, we got one of those at the CPA meeting in the Kvant in September? So signed up to the cavalier can. September. Sixteenth and seventeenth coming to see then otherwise to. through Yuval don't come and all three link tin look me up Lincoln and. Let's have a conversation. The best relationship come from conversation about where we all want to head Option. Be sure do and I hooked to keep the conversation going. We'll look forward to doing the next cast soon. But for now. Take care. You too.
Podcast: CCA member TeleDynamics supplies the cloud with gear
"This is green and the publisher telecom reseller and this is a special podcast for the cloud. Communications wants into your publications. And I have with me today. Daniel on your ski chief Technology Officer Telling Them AMEX DANIEL. Thank you for joining me. Thanks for this is I said a podcast in. We're we'RE GONNA be talking about telling telling dynamics and they are the sponsors of a special online virtual meaning that will be happening on. Wednesday may twenty seventh twelve o'clock eastern time for the cloud communications point. Cca The event is called talking to your customer security. You Technologies and new opportunities so Daniel I on behalf of a and everybody who will be ending the virtual conference thing for being a sponsor. You're very welcome our privilege and honor to the purpose of this cast as we'd like to learn more about television. Amex so first of all what is tell a dynamic. Amex is a premier wholesale telecom distributor. And we've been in business since nineteen eighty one. And we specialize in SIP phones fulfillment and distribution of popular brands. Like hailing polycom grand streams. Go Vice Know Panasonic and many more and we also distribute anything that goes along with the phone system. Install like headset switches. Routers gateways the conferencing. Ip paging equipment and we currently distribute three hundred underlines. You know it's very interesting that your company decided to join Cloud Communications Alliance. Why did a company that basically focuses on hardware decide to join the CPA a great question? you know. They makes history has been in telecommunications and so we have a strong history and understanding what systems and legacy integration and so with our specializing in telecommunications tedium and IPM point devices including headsets and phones and conferencing equipment. Like I said earlier it makes sense as legacy has moved into the cloud that the hardware should also be able to transition and so our our stance on being a hardware distribution partner with ca is to help those cloud partners have the hardware equipment that they need to help finish those installations. Let's take a closer look at that if your CCA if you're out there basically offering virtually service cloud working so on. Why should we choose a dynamic? We look at tallaght dynamics. A that's a great question. You know some of the key things that we look at just to give our our customers. Some value added features. We really do believe that the ease of ordering has made ourselves stand out from from our competitors and we feel. We have the best website in the industry that you can check pricing stock on hand place. Orders print invoices paying voices. Everything is at the customer fingertips And from that online website. There's a couple of other. Api integrations and blind drop shipping's that customers can take advantage of to to make sure that they can get that hardware needs to that end user to fulfill that telecom installation so in the first place you've made it real easy to do To do business to place orders and so on and then what I also heard is your company out of experience in the market. Yeah so like I said. We'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS. Nineteen eighty-one So the history this come with that Has Allowed us to not only know the products inside and out on the sales side but it also has a lot of over the years have a dedicated technical support group that gives first level and second level support on many of the top rents of product. We distribute now. When does that experience really come in Handy? And then that's what I want to understand. Is You know why is it? Different one company from another when someone's basically shipping a piece of artwork. Well of the ways that it can come in handy is is not just a pre sales and post sales support which we do have an offer but we also offer pre provisioning services for many of the IP phones and so if you're a CCA partner and you're deploying some in points to attach onto you hosted we could have those spun up and registered before the phones even leave our distribution warehouse so that you know when they arrive at your customers location. They come up ready to go. Registered configured labeled so the customer can easily take out of the packaging box. And they'll hey. This phone belongs to Maria extension one fourteen. So what I'm hearing. There is a real cost. Not just the cost of the unit is. There's also cost of labor if I can get really plug and play ready. The customer can maybe even plug it in on foreign south. That's gotTa save a lot of money for your partner. It does not just the money saved in labor but also the money saved in shipping. Most customers it previously would buy the equipment through distribution. They'd ship it to their office. They can figure it and they shift at a second time to that customer location. So we're we're essentially saving one direction of shipping and many times with your dedicated. Sales Rep at Tottenham Mix. You can get some free shipping programs that are tailored to you the individual customer so Daniel. You know Other options for shipping there are telling him ebonics. Warehouse is located in Austin Texas. So we're essentially located in the United States. We SHIFT SHAME. Day of five o'clock central. So if you place your orders that day it will ship that day until five o'clock central and Shipping options going from coast to coast. You can have it delivered next day. all the way to ground shipping which is usually three or four days transit From Austin Texas the remote corners of the United States. And if you are in the Austin area you can Pick up directly from our warehouse. Same Day there is even seemed options for some people. Lucky enough to be near. You know I was. You talked earlier in the podcast about the self serve options the efficiency of your online program in leading people Execute orders very quickly. But it's also a full search there is there's a an API integration. I might have mentioned earlier. In if you're interested in the API documentation we can set up your customer portal test credentials and your developers contest down. We have developers on staff that are ready to answer questions that you may have but in an show that allows you to receive orders from your portal and they directly import into our ERP portal. So that those can be facilitated quickly and efficiently without you having to lock into the website. Understand that you guys contain a blog beyond just understanding products but exploring maitree issues regarding quite communications. That's correct. We published a blog every Wednesday and the blog website is INFO dot dynamics dot com ford slash blah. We call it our told her name extinct tank and we. We have new articles every week. Some of them are from manufacturers. Some of them are from Service providers and a lot of them are just good information on how to type email. Excuse me how to type logs that allow you to look. At the industry's information. We're committed to delivering best customer service in the industry as far as elaborating on specific topics that are needs in the industry. So we really have enjoyed putting together this blog over the last couple of years and I think you learn a lot by stopping by taking a read. I noticed her website. There's a lot of different resources As I said you can go and play an order. You can sort of start a conversation or you can learn something. That's right there. There's a lot of information right at your fingertips You can quickly clip to download different user guide SPEC sheet or even detailed instructions on how to guides with VOIP issues troubleshooting. So there's quite a bit right there at your fingertips from the website. And that's why we really do feel. We have one of the best website in the industry as far as distributions concerned Daniel. You I wanNA thank you today for. I want to thank you for joining me today. And the spending some time with US create learning a little bit more about your company and I WanNa thank you for putting the CA and supporting CCA events. Where can we learn more absolutely? Thanks back you can visit us at. Www DOT dynamics dot com and find all the links to the different blogs and Contact Information for support or pre sales questions Or you can call us at eight hundred eight four seven five six two nine Daniel again. Thank you know. We'RE GONNA be talking to you guys in in the future probably doing it other. Podcast look forward to reading those blogs and again thank you for the upcoming event. Doug we'll talk to you soon.
Podcast: Cloud Enabled vs. Cloud Native: Why It Matters
"This is green on the publisher telecom reseller. This is a special podcast with Kierra publications and the Cloud Communications Alliance. Like to welcome you to telecom resorted podcast series today. And I'm with Bob Norberg. The CMO of cloud age solutions. Thank you for joining me today. Thank you. Doug a appreciate your time today. So we've been talking along here. But why don't you I? Give us a little bit about background about quite. Sure, sure so cloudy Solutions is a company that really has been in telecom and helping manage expenses and cost information for many years in a variety of forms. by background is. I've been in and out of telecom for many years You know I've been in everything from telecom cast equipment. in my early days as a product manager I've worked in at a start up in the frame, relay and ATM market. You know something I'll be dating myself. You know if I start talking about frame relay. worked at a provider cable and wireless. But also worked in a lot of other technology areas, and so I've really been kind of a product guy in a variety of different technical areas and I think two things that are Kinda I think that are somewhat unique about my background is. I've worked in a lot of different areas I've worked for software companies I worked for hardware companies and service companies, and so I've got a lot of different perspectives on how those different things are run. And I've also worked traditionally at smaller companies and so I've you know Kinda? You know work at a small company? You have to get your hands dirty and really roll your sleeves up and so I've got a lot of experience companies that are small emerging in the how they tackle things after that so so I've been I think. I've been very blessed my career to be able to kind of parts of those things and see the ups and downs, and start to see some of the nuances and I learn a little something from every market to Kinda applies to the next market. So, you know the term I'm in the cloud. seems to be used very casually wouldn't stop for vendors. Talk about their offerings. But there is not a one-size-fits-all approach to the cloud or is there. Yeah. It's It really isn't and you know. It's one of those these days you know it's you can say. It's the marketing thing right? You have to say that you're in the cloud and it and it is it does it is like us very casually today You Know Sa L. D.. Reminds me back in the days when you know and I was in the network management market right and you had all these different vendors. Talking about network management or for a while I did I was at a company? We did service level management, and you have to kind of in your those markets, but it really took time. You have to peel back and find out what you really do in that market. To really understand it. And so while it's not untrue that you're in those markets, but there's more nuance to it. I remember back. I was working at a security company when Sarbanes Oxley was really big. And, so everybody had to message towards Sarbanes Oxley and so you'd say we're the top Sarbanes Oxley compliance software well like sharpies Oxley was a a beast right so there's all these different aspects to it, and so there wasn't a single solution. That really address it so. You see those kinds of things I think with the in the cloud today You know if really simplifying it right, you can say. There's. There's two varieties. There's one is that I operate in the cloud, which is I run my infrastructure in the cloud. So you know that's lift and shift. Take applications that I used to run on my own servers I used to manage all my own servers and do all those things now I go. Run it in Amazon or Microsoft Azure or something like that. But the other is whether it was designed for the cloud, and that's a very different animal cloud native. Is, really about how the software applications are created how they're deployed, not not necessarily where they're run, but how they're designing what they're done. when you say it's cloud native. It means that they they're designed to live in the cloud. And You know it's interesting I. You know when when we talk about this, there's. Really a famous strong return, but very well-known analogy in the devops world. and it's called pets versus cattle, and I think it's a really unique way to kind of think about. Cloud enabled versus cloud data. and. You know if if you think of a traditional data center like a pet like how you think about a pet, right your data center You give names to your servers you manage of you. Take very specific Caribia servers. Really goes through and do very specific. For it much like you do with a pet, right? You keep your pets. You very specific about them. You take care of them. You Love Them If it becomes sick, right, you try to get it back healthy. Try to fix it. and that's kind of the old school. Traditional data center way. But if you think about the Cadillac example right people think of cattle herds right a lot, so you know you don't necessarily think of a very specific how you think about the herd of cows. And, that's really what a cloud native system is the. You know in a weird way. The servers servers are disposable. Right I don't go into Amazon. When we run our stuff in the cloud and go, Hey, is this server upper down? I just know whether EC. Two is up or down right I. You know I. Don't worry about that necessarily, and so everything in the cloud is more homogeneous. It's automated load balanced. It's designed to fail, and so you get out of this mode of kind of I need to worry about a specific bare metal server. Rather you know of working within the cloud I know it's a computer resource that should be available and I kind of treat it that way. you know and it's at the bigger picture. Is You know you you worry less about the infrastructure that is running on your worried more about your application and kind of how it's designed? So. Why is there such a distinction? And where does the customer see these differences? So it. Is You know it's And that's a really good question because I. do think a lot of people go to the cloud. It must be good and cheap and. And for people moving to cloud enable. They're actually a lot of really good benefits to it right? You're centralizing infrastructure you know even moving from your own say blade servers, and moving into Amazon has its benefits. You're saving money. You're centralizing management. You're making it easier to scale up and scale down But really you're still kinda manually doing things. Even those manual things, maybe easier You're still doing things manually. You're still treating them like individual instances. The real benefit from cloud native becomes you know it's centralized infrastructure and you. The customers really get the benefit of all that automation and I think there's three clear ways that you can do. There's actually many. But I think the first is scale ability right? A lot of these cloud services are designed. You know their offerings. You can automatically scale up and down so your workloads are automatically going up and down so you don't need to worry about saying. Hey, you know at the very least. This is a busy time of year. Therefore I have to provisional these services to add more computing, power or storage right. A lot of the newer cloud services take care of that automatically. and so that you know that scale ability is one less than you have to worry about you don't have to you know even though in a cloud enabled area. You can't change it, you know the the scale ability in the cloud. Native environment happens automatically. More seamless? You also get the benefits of availability. You know If you run your own data center, you know things. Go Up and down all the time and you know places like Amazon and Azure. They're up. You know they're up much more often. They're up all the time. You really have no downtime. They're designed for resiliency right. They're designed to stay up. There's lots of failed over so all the things that if you're running your own infrastructure, take a lot of time and design effort. You know the compromise. Really take care of for you so I think the availability perspective is going to be awesome. Then the last. Is You know this is a? It's maintainability, right? It's you know when you run things in the cloud. It's much easier to deploy software you know because all the processes are automated, it's easier to upgrade you know, and so, and with that with the upgrades. They also take less time because it's all automated, so you know. They're they're real benefits for the enterprise and if you think about? You know take a really simple example of like you. SIGN UP FOR SALESFORCE DOT COM which is in the cloud, and it's a SAS base offering. Right, you're not deploying servers anywhere. You don't have to worry about all that effort, right? You're just turning on in your users into it. and that's the same kind of thing with clouds native. All that planning upfront of having to buy servers, and put them in place and make sure their size properly make sure their size for growth and performance, and all that you design is for the cloud with all these available services. That's a much easier way to deploy. Ultimately, the enterprise really gets the benefit of you could argue no surprises right? You know so things work. They scale the performance of what you're running on. There are no more surprises. So what is the trend with cloud natives? Assume it's finger. Yeah, it really is, and that's The very well established and Microsoft and Google and Are All. Really going that way so just the fact that. These providers are investing not just any infrastructure to run in the cloud. But also the ecosystem around it right? Amazon doesn't amazing job. KINDA building an ecosystem of consultants and services all around that to help people use their infrastructure. And so. Really companies going forward. You know that's going to be the way that after going to be deployed you know it's really where virtually all the bigger names have kinda gone, and where everybody should be going forward I read a study by IDC that estimates by twenty, twenty two, which is very close. That ninety percent of all new software applications will be developed from the ground up. As cloud native software And, that's where like we were at aws. Reinvent last November and It was amazing to see. The ecosystem efforts that Amazon is putting in place. Yeah, they have you know SAS programs to help SAS or start from the bottom up. Kind of get their software to start that way so that you're not. Developing traditional software, then converting later, you're kinda starting from the ground up that way. And so. You know. When I and I think it's one of the things that more software companies should really highlight. You know a lot of times they focus on features, but these benefits are really really important I think to the enterprise because it takes some of the guesswork out. and I think it's a question. Enterprises should ask as they're investigating software. You know how how is it being run now? You know obviously it's not gonna be necessarily the. A one deciding factor that you make, but it should be an important one because you wanNA know. That the software is being run on kind of where software developments going, and where software products are going so that you're you're kind of buying for the future as well and so you know always say they should be banned it but I know that's not a realistic thing, but enterprise. Is You really start taking that seriously and start to understand whether? The software is cloud native, and they're using the capabilities that are available to them as as the vendors are are building software. So are you guys at the h working to address this? So that's so we you know. We've been cloud data from the very beginning so Even though we've been in the you know working with telecom expense management in a variety different forums over the last ten years we developed our latest software offering GPS cloud from the ground up as cloud native, and so whether the founders. decided to build off where. They looked around, and they decided that this was the future. This was really going to be what we wanted to back on, so we? We're where we built it on aws, and so where we use aws infrastructure. We use all their technology And it really is the the right way. It's amazing you know I. It's a little different way to think about designing the software, but we'd made that choice and so gps cloud which targets software space telecom expense management that's been around for a long time, but has new technology being cloud native fast paced. That were really help things in the way that's managed you know at a high level. We do cost analysis, so we're processing invoices where hauling invoices and inventory where doing geo code processing the invoices come in. we automate audits. And you know so by doing all that stuff and realized you're processing invoices at a lot of computing power and a lot of different volume you want your infrastructure to be reliable and available as you're doing all that, and so you know we look at it, and with the amount voicing that we invoices that we have to process and what we do to it to make it easier, you know we think some of the automation. have. Really Bay. They made possible by the fact that we're doing in the cloud. It makes it that much easier, so you know. We really see that as one of our differentiator 's in that market. It sets us up to you. Know have an easy to use tool that is well automated that does all the things that enterprises and service providers, and even channel partners want out of an expense management solution. Thanks for joining me today on the T. R. MCC podcast series. We're listeners learn more about cloud solutions and also cheap PX club solution? Sure so thanks, you can go to our website. Which is www dot? CLOUDY SOLUTIONS DOT COM? you could also send an email to info at cloud solutions. SOLUTIONS DOT COM. If you want more information about products. We've got a couple of things coming up here with telecom reseller at CCA. We've just finished up a two part series on different topic voice toll fraud We had the first part of the series in May and we just had the second part of the series issued on the issue of the magazine, so you go onto the website. Check that out. and we are actually doing. A virtual meeting with the cloud communications, Alliance On that toll fraud topic, so cloudy Solutions and another partner of ours e g are going to have a hour long virtual meeting on what you can do to especially limit your risk. And how do you manage your cost expectations on a voice whole fraud, and so that's coming up on June tenth If you go to our website or the CCA website, they'll the information there on how you register for it. Began, thank you very much indeed, and we look forward to our next coversation. Great thanks a lot. You have a great day, Youtube. A.
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"This is green and I'm the publisher Telecom Reseller, and this is a special podcast where the cloud communications alliance NTR publications and I have with me Alex monks who is the CO founder and CEO Dash Base Alex. thank you for joining me today. We have Jordan Phillips WHO'S THE HEAD OF SALES AT DASH base. It makes me. And we also have with is Myron. Wallace is a technical advisor to dash base pirate. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, Doug. It's always great to. Participate in these. PODCASTS. With. You. So, we're going to be reporting on some very interesting things. Today we're GONNA be talking about why dash basis. So important to the cloud community why dash basis joined now actively involved the cloud communications. Once you're not coming involving on an important panel at a summit and more news on dash basis. Well but for now, Alex, did you tell what is Dash Base? Yeah you bet. Definitely, is a tool for unification service providers than greatly simplifies the process of understanding what issues are in their communications platform and pinpointing the actual route costs. So with aspects, you take all the data from your platform you put it into dash basis is laws and data and ask something visualized calls media. Search for calls and be able to big all the way the whole resolution data that you need in order to understand every single piece of that call who needs base. That run communications services and so every single platform out there that delivers voiceover ip or videoconferencing under the covers will have many different types of servers from free switch Porta one, eighty and Kinda Elio etcetera etcetera everybody knows that list is really long. So anybody who tries to deliver awesome community services over the Internet needed ashtrays to collect. Data and visualize all of that data in a way that level one level two and level three support teams can really understand and utilize. And I understand that this summer and the in these past few months you guys have had some very big wings with regard to these services. Yeah. So earlier this year we launched our product and are really excited that in the past couple of months that has been pretty pretty big names like sky switch I come come onto our platform and start to get value from it. So we're excited that we're able to go to market this year and take on new parks like that. So Jordan in addition to these major wins and especially the company you guys decided to join the cloud communications alliance. Why see see? Yeah thanks Doug So for those who don't know the see as a really awesome community where like minded folks in the communication space can collaborate and work together to bring the latest and greatest tools to the end users into space. So tied to begin with reason like Alex mentioned. There are a number of folks that are already a part of the see that our current customers of ours. So. mentioned Dow pat and Sky Switch but there's also eight by our flagship customer that it's help bring this tool to the community and opened our eyes to what is exactly needed for folks not just in that little circle. But also people across support and operations and engineering helping them find issues and then more quickly respond to customer inquiries before they become escalations. So like outs mentioned on top of that, we're working with the way to bring a lot of the market leading platforms likes Brie switch and Camilio brought Broadway's to the larger market in hopes that we can enable more folks to do more things with these indication providers. And I understand as a friend WHO member you're jumping right in, you're going to be involved in a panel. Yeah Yeah. Absolutely you know this is a fast acting community and it's and it's been seen so of the cloud communications summit, which is coming out shortly on September sixteenth and seventeen. Also actually be on one of the panels there. So there will be some more information. Coming out soon at least one if not two. So you'll see our name somewhere shining up during during the schedule there we're very excited to discuss it more large community I'll be at the summit. Now Myron, you joined the company. You're a technical adviser to Dash what do you do as a technical advisor? What does that mean? Well, I get involved with the company been in the calms landscape for many years, and when originally dash based approach, me as back earlier this year. they presented the tool and what the capabilities were. It really resonated with me as a former operations engineer focused professional that you have all these systems as Alex and Jordan have talked about. But on the delivery side, you spend countless hours looking through logs and combing through trying to find the root cause analysis, and when you have a customer banging on the door looking for a reason why a systematic issue occurred that degradate is performing for dropped calls or what have you becomes a real challenge and overall The solution really fills that void and it gives that Nice. Single Pane of glass for the operators and the engineering teams to utilize to get to the root cause analysis quicker So I got involved with the team and and sort of working with him about different enhancements to the product and different things with the market and talking about platforms and experiences as an engineer to help guide and and focus the price in different areas and whatnot. I understand there's a bit of a product pro pipeline at Dash Base. There is I'll defer back to Alex to talk about some of the great features and enhancements that are coming in the next several. Really. Yeah. So lots of things going on fourth as start up where we got a really aggressive row. Now, one thing that we WANNA do is solidify or for all the popular servers in the world. So from free switch, as I said before net, Sabians Puerto One, we WANNA make sure that it's plug and play onboard any of those systems and so we're always going to be improving. That side of Dash Base yelping more visionary for us is we want we had I want to provide access to and visualization of any call that happened inside of providers platform but we want also go toward proactive monitoring and we WANNA be helping communications providers understand when there are issues when there are issues and find them I in dash face before they become bigger issues for customers. So you know in the cloud communications alliance, there's a large number of members who rely and use Cisco broad soft and I'm wondering whether Dash Bay says story for them. We do You know the Cisco Rozov community is entered a you know an interesting state because of the consolidation continues not only enact community but communities such as Microsoft, acquiring medicine edge, and what that's driving as these carrier providers are doing a hybrid approach they enter that that hybrid approach they are. Dealing with multiple systems, generating several log files, and that becomes yet another challenge. So Dash Base is you know able to bridge all those logs across all those systems together painting at. Single Pane of glass to help root cause analysis be determined very fairly quickly with the the solution. It also sounds like there might be a telehealth story here too. Yeah you know the market is trending in that direction obviously with the the Cova da pandemic and. Telehealth is a big initiative that's ongoing as well as other remote collaboration technologies you using leveraging web RTC technologies and that's one of the areas of focus for the organization as we enter this next chapter of a remote collision technologies. Alex I. Did I did I miss anything there on that? Yeah, I think he I think he hit a spot on I mean the one thing that reminds me of is the all of the interests were getting around Web RTC because gas is focused on building tools specifically for cloud communications. Our customers have very allies, desires the needs and what we're seeing from. Them is strong desire for tools around troubleshooting of Web, RTC as an emerging technology is driving a lot of products that are coming out. So that's really where the market's going, and that's based has a strong roadmap there that we were working hand in hand with our customers on, he tried to have the best tools in the industry that can that can troubles who monitor root cause analysis web RTC calls at tremendous scale. So Jordan is we start to the final portion of the year what's ahead for Dash Base Yeah. So as I mentioned, we have something coming up were out to be at least on one. Again that's September sixteenth and seventeenth. So depending on where the podcast gets released, it's coming up in the next couple of weeks right now we're also in the process of planning a Webinar, which will be a collaborative effort between Dash Space. One of the customers that we just mentioned in that will include in one of the head of operations or support over there to discuss what was life like before ash base. What did ask basically do for them was life look like now I'll see you get kind of real customer reviews case story, and then other than that like I. mentioned with CCA were the. News member and we're working actively with the team over there to provide a unique partnership discount through the year. So folks who are members of the CCA that are interested in learning more about dash based essentially using it internally we're providing especially this out for those folks. So there's a lot of opportunities get in touch with us. You can always learn a little bit more about our website at Dash Base, which is the S. H. B., A. S. E. Dot O. There's an about section there a product section there there's an area to contact US likely get a note from me so free to address me directly. Well it's been a pleasure meeting up with Jordan today Alex. Myron. Thank you for joining us. An interesting learning about dash base learning about some of the interesting products and. Solutions, you're bringing to the clock community communications lines I know doing podcast soon as we move forward is maybe right after the summit but for now, gentlemen thank you very much. They give. Thank you, sir.
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I went out in my scary unmasked human costume yesterday. People were fleeing. I did attend a thing. And i went as a free talk. Live co host asked him. I dress convincing pretty much exactly the way. I'm dressed right now except for different shirt. So at any rate our toll free number is eight five five four five zero three seven three three. You can take control airwaves. Carleen talk about whatever's on your mind that's eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom in the studio tonight. It's myself the reverend captain. Kick ass in somebody. I don't remember. I don't remember who i am. Noah noah body know about that's it and we are here to talk about all sorts of fun things last night. I was in the studio as a special guest. Thanks for having. That was fun to do a sunday. Night with richie. Rich and the peak louis mountaineer. Those guys were great But we talked a little bit about a subject of the elderly who are dying in isolation because he of the covid lockdowns and it. You know we talked a bit about how that occurs. And what the effect of the lockdown our and the elderly they some of them just seem to be giving up they're actually listing like isolation and lack of thriving due to the covid nineteen on there as the cause of death in these hospital. I don't know amazing honesty. I don future litigation is gonna come from that or not. But i doubt it i mean. They're the thing is you can't really be sued for doing what the government told you to accept under extremely rare circumstances when it if they just like if nursing homes had put these protocols into place on their own without government instructions. Yeah they'd be getting sued left and right right and it wouldn't be a uniform you know it'd be a few idiots doing and people could like move out of those homes and move into better places where the idiots were doing that. So it turns out that people are dying as a result of the government mandates and lockdowns. And it's affecting more than just the elderly. So i spent a little bit of time after the show last night and then again today looking at some other stuff and the first thing that i want to bring up. Tonight is the great barrington declaration. And if you guys are familiar with this this is a whole bunch thousand. So i read that it was great. Okay over ten thousand hell scientists thirty thousand medical practitioners and six hundred thousand members of the general public all calling for an end to the lockdowns as the primary tool for mitigating covid nineteen. So how did they come up with that name. I don't know i think was it. A guy named the great barrington. Who started it like the great santini. I'm always apprehensive about anything named great. Like great britain. Yeah alexander the great people. I don't know so great about but at any rate either call them nat- or kill you to. Oh that makes sense. Although i will say he he managed. People are afraid now of whether teenagers can tie their shoes when he took over the macedonian island army and went over and went out to conquer the world. Do you know how old he was fifteen. I was going to say it wasn't even like sixteen or eighteen. Wow crazy so at any rate lockdowns have imposed immense social and economic arms over the last eight months. Meanwhile surprisingly little evidence exists to support the effectiveness of the lockdown approach this from the a are the american institute for economic research the response from previous defenders of such policies both in epidemiology and journalism sought to vilify the signers of the declaration and deny that lockdowns are even on the table as a future policy option. Hasn't it been censored by both facebook and twitter. Also i believe it. Has i think it was i too. I don't know if it is now. I'm not gonna read them all but they give a several people have rebutted. The great barrington declaration saying essentially. They all say the same thing that it straw man arguments. The great barrington declaration is saying that the measures that we. I took within the first several weeks of lockdowns or against him. Well we're not doing that anymore. We're doing a lighter version of that. I'm that's the rebuttal. So they're locking down once again in multiple countries and in the united states. Yes they are that is correct but prior to the announcement of these new lockdowns. This is what these people said. Ichi pointed out everything. The government says is a lie and everything that has stolen greg gun. Salt gonsalves an epidemiologist at yale. University says thank you first. Let's knock down the straw man up front knowing supporting massive across the board lockdowns anywhere all the time. I thought that's exactly what they were doing. It is whether doing it again. William hana's epidemiologist at harvard. University reacted to the great barrington declaration. This is a dangerous falsehood. This is a very narrow sample of top scientists and certainly not representative of the world and lockdown is not the alternative matt reynolds. A science reporter for wired. Uk the kind of lockdown that. The great barrington declaration seems to be railing against hasn't been in place in the uk since mid june. Which was true at the time lockdown until christmas. Dave just relaxed down as you as you said. Yeah so all of the and there's a bunch of response you're not gonna read them all but these are all otherwise you don we'll call them authorities right whether there You know scientists call them that kind of the otherwise respected people in their fields giving these quotes about well. That's not exactly what's happening and so as of the writing of this article which is dated november second so earlier this morning is when i picked this up as of this writing. New national lockdowns have been imposed or announced for the following countries. Ireland the czech republic wales france germany belgium greece austria and the united kingdom. Don't forget new york city you've got now massachusetts which according to the news today also is doing a Tighter lockdown including a tightening. The mask mandate reducing gathering limits and ordering a curfew for businesses and gathering. Well if somebody wants to escape from massachusetts i got. I got room for a pretty girl around here somewhere. Similar returns to lockdown are being actively discussed at the national level across europe and regionally in the united states as well including the ones that ian has just mentioned the much derided strowman of renewed lockdowns. It would appear has already sprung to life so obviously. The great barrington declaration is not a straw argument in any way shape or form just based on what it had to say the content of the declaration itself and then the rebuttals from these people. And that's all. I'm gonna say about them because i i feel pretty pretty mean right. Now i might say some mean things But those people who say bottles from butt heads definitely they are Particularly in the light of the re- lockdown I don't know how many waves of lockdown it's ben but since it's it seems to be going on again so that's part one of what i wanted to bring up tonight Just the fact that a whole bunch of scientists and other medical professionals and a whole bunch of citizens got together and said hey look. There's little evidence that the lockdowns are the way to go. You don't can you please stop. And then a bunch of people rebutted that and said oh well. You're just talking about what we did. You know the harshness of the first few weeks. Not you know what. We're doing currently harsh. And then they've gone ahead and resurrected the are now. I don't even remember where did we. We miss the whole. Summer didn't wait. It was march. Thirteenth is the day that i've marked on my calendar. 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That's patriae on that got them. Welcome back everybody. This is free talk. Live call in talk. Show radio program and online stream where you can take control of the airwaves by dialing eight five five four five zero three seven three three. That's eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. You can take control of the airwaves. Talk about whatever you like. Talk about what we're talking about tonight. or anything we've talked about. Previously the choice is yours in the studio tonight. It's myself ian and nobody and we began this hour. Talking about the great barrington declaration and its rebuttals and how all of the rebuttals are essentially false. Because of the resurgence in all of the extreme lockdown measures and that is just a lead up into what. I wanted to bring in. Talk about tonight. Which is an additional article from the american institute of economic research written by. Jeffrey tucker called death by lockdown on march. Twenty eighth very early in the pandemic. Ai published an article. That i felt at the time received far too little attention drugs suicide and crime empirical estimates of the human toll of the shutdown by economists. Audrey and thomas duncan cited empirical literature on the human toll of economic devastation. So the empires even coming out of this empirical right. Oh empirical this article forecast more than one hundred thousand excess deaths due to drug overdoses suicide. Alcoholism homicide and untreated depression. All a result not of the virus but of policies of mandatory human separation economic downturn business in school closures closed medical services and general depression. That comes with a loss of freedom and choice now. I had to say we told you. So but this is something. We also predicted. Very early on and just as a natural outcome. I think we had any idea of how many people would be they. They made a prediction of one hundred. Thousand i wonder. Is it even possible to measure these things accurate. But isn't the occasional human sacrifice just the cost of keeping the sun coming up if we sacrifice only one life. Nobody doesn't that make it. All worthwhile jess wait. No that doesn't make sense. What did they say they. Oh it saves just one night lockdowns totally fine so these two economist demonstrated that as bad as virus is policies that wreck normal social functioning will cause massive and completely unnecessary suffering and death because the article was so well sited with references to all the available literature. I thought it would make a difference but after it appeared it was crickets. I was amazed here. You have a beautiful piece of research. That perfectly forecasted. The nightmare being created by politicians and their advisors and it made no dent in the national narrative. Here we are seven months later and the worst has come true. These two economists should seven months the fight. And i don't know you've been here pretty much every monday. So at least you've got that going for you okay. Good black and i can account for myself at least part of this time all right. Otherwise you're schrodinger. Is nobody if you're not here if you exist or not which is kind of funny. Because i'm nobody's sugar schrodinger. These two economists should be considered prophets. Sure enough. The centers for disease control has documented a shocking number of excess deaths not from cova scott atlas summarizes hispanic forty percent excess deaths not covert related black forty-six percent. Not covid related white. Thirty eight percents not covid related. Twenty eight twenty five to forty four. Seventy seven percent excess deaths wow not covert related and sixty five plus coming in at thirty nine percent. Not covert related. Those are startling statistics. The most startling data concerns the age group. Twenty five to forty four. This is a group with covid related infection fatality rate of point zero zero nine two percent which is to say barely a disease at all for nearly everyone in this group and yet they are dying at a rate far above what is expected and mostly from issues not related to cove it and what percentage of the men. I do not know. Because i don't know like ninety two percent of the suicides most of the time There should not be any access deaths says tucker instead we find people dropping dead in ways that are shocking. Now they show some charts here. That are obviously difficult to describe on the radio. I'll make sure that we post the link to this article. You can see the charts. They do say these excess deaths have profoundly and disproportionately affected minority communities ota the charge generally showing. Is it possible like give us some sort of idea. What what you're looking at you know. I looked at them and they give you a percentage change in the weekly number of deaths in twenty twenty relative to the average in the same weeks during twenty fifteen through twenty nineteen by age group. this these are numbers from the cdc itself. So i thought. Fewer people were dying over all during this epidemic. This is the first. I've i've heard of excess deaths. Yeah and that. That's kind of funny. That the not from the epidemic there from the government the relevant parring sunny in six certif- way they show one graph that says percentage change in the weekly numbers of deaths and twenty twenty relative to the average numbers during twenty fifteen to twenty nineteen By race and ethnicity and it says the relevant part of this. Cdc graph which marks above expected deaths this year are the dark blue and black proportions of the graph which indicate the non cova deaths. Okay but can you tell us what you're looking at. I don't know what we're offering numbers. I understand that but like you know what are so. It's number of deaths of access deaths the left column. It's the dates on the right column. They've got total number above average all causes total number upper bound threshold. All kinds is total number above average. All cause that's i. I'm sorry. I asked if i was just kind of asking you what we're seeing now. I can see the little black humps early that i wanted to skip. These are very good. But that's okay. So i don't think the captain's guide to explain math schrafft's on radio and it's hard to describe these charts and what they're actually saying without you actually visually seeing them yourself. So a picture is worth a thousand words so now consider the. Cdc's attempt to mask what's really going on here trying not to use the word lockdown. This is a quote from the cdc overall an estimated two hundred ninety nine thousand and twenty eight accessed deaths have occurred in the united states from late january through october. 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The lockdown policies of governments around the globe are killing people but they also provide data to back up their claims This includes the scientists and medical personnel in the Great barrington declaration as well as the writer of this particular article. Jeffrey tucker who does site his services very well and also links to an an an additional article. That will jump to here in a minute so before we went away there. Nobody i think misunderstood what was being said in this paragraph and he had thought that the two thirds number that they were referring to the the roughly two thirds of the three hundred thousand or so excess deaths. This year had come from cove. He thought it was that they come from something besides kobe. But they're saying it came from covid that means that one third of those came from something besides covert which they're suggesting good be suicide. it would be Drug overdoses thirds included both cova deaths and deaths due to Due to the lack downs that were supposedly indirectly dacoven. I still don't know anybody is sick interesting. So the very last part of this as these results provide information about the degree to which ovid nineteen deaths might be under entertained and informed efforts to prevent mortality directly or indirectly associated with the covid nineteen pandemic such as efforts to minhas my efforts to minimize disruption to healthcare. Okay so what. They're suggesting there seems to be that they want you to think that the other third could be related to covid. But they're saying they can't say that for sure so they're just claiming they might be under ascertains. They're suggesting that they think that it could be more than two thirds that are attributed to cope it. But they don't know tucker says that's the cdc's way of saying these policies are killing people so he attributes that we'll call it a one hundred thousand to the policies. Just wait until the wave of homelessness hits I mean that's going to be a huge wave of death because a lot of these people around here don't have any idea how to be homeless and survive in did as for minimizing disruptions to health. Care a major factor. Here is that people have been completely avoid getting healthcare this year for fear of covid for fear of contact tracing and also because many medical services have been forcibly reserved for people with cova right. Somebody was just telling everybody else right. Yes somebody was just telling me the other day that they couldn't get in elective surgery done because it wasn't cove it related and so therefore sorry. You can't do that. It was actually a sesame wind. Somebody to give them a. Wow yeah. I've got this facial infection which actually it they matter because if you've got an infection on your face it did can easily Get into the brain which can cause real trouble and you know. There's there's no. I'm going to get anything done about it. You know it's not because i'm scared of the of the cove it is because i'm scared they're gonna you know i'm gonna go in there and they give me a test and throw me in a concentration camp. Ain't nobody got time for that you. You certainly don't this report. Avoid speculation about the causes of these mysterious deaths but does offer this one hint specifically deaths from circulatory diseases alzheimer's disease and dementia and respiratory diseases have increased in two thousand twenty relative to past years and it is unclear to what extent these represent miss classified covert nineteen deaths or deaths directly related to the pandemic edgy because of the disruptions in healthcare or access or utilization. Or maybe the fact that being miserable is really bad for your system tucker says that's a rather cold way of saying that the lockdowns have failed completely to protect the most vulnerable and instead increased deaths amongst the oldest population to a. Let's go ahead and go to your calls and your thoughts because we have the christian anarchist with us who does have some medical expertise here gene. You're on free talk live. Hey didn't really call about medical stuff. But i can. If you haven't had something that. I would like that you would like me to address. I can. I called about the army of professional trolls trolls by the chinese communist party. But let's let's talk about that. Means it is after all. I didn't know that china. Yeah they do and they are Probably at least a half a million to a million Professional troll army that attacks are internet and comments on things. So trolls can cause a lot of problems. And they've always been an issue I don't really mind trolls self. Because i know how to deal with them. And but when. You have an army of trolls where there's one of you and ten thousand of them all of us hadn't things get totally out of hand you don't have a chance to To address them. But i have this issue on youtube where there'll be some youtube videos that are pro china and they're obviously propaganda by the The communist party. And i don't even like to use the word pro china because it's pro communist chinese because there are china there's a china that's not communist. It's called taiwan. And so you can't really say china. And i'm i'm trying not to say that but the ccp. Let's use it use that term. But this ep has An army and they just have rooms full of people in china that do nothing but get online and make comments under these videos and they're easy to find because anytime you click on one of those people who's making a comment and you look at their their profile. You'll you'll see number one that they that they're relatively new. They have no videos. They have no views. They have no anything they. They're there for one purpose and that's to make pro-chinese comments under all these things and they bury anybody who tries to talk about liberty or freedom. And i see it as a personal threat to our internet and interesting is is there I always like to compare the digital version to the analogue version. So you know gene i. I'm an older dude. I'm about forty eight years old. And what was your young kid. Okay but what was the analogue version of trolls before the internet. Well the analogue version would have just been somebody you know Dissing you on a street corner. That kind of thing so the before the internet And i go back to newsgroup. And i used to post a lot on newsgroups and i've really enjoyed newsgroups because there was literally that was literally the wild west everything went on a newsgroup so there was no censorship. No nothing. And i i actually thrived there. I loved it but unfortunately we don't have anything like that. Currently you know if these trolls. I miss i miss the internet from before. If these troll places are hiring. Because i bet you could be a pretty good internet troll. Yeah but i don't know. I don't know if you'd feel too well. Good about yourself at the end of the day. Praising this over and over at natural them yeah. I don't know that i'd take the job. I was being facetious but Yeah it is. And it's unfortunate. Because i see it as damaging to the internet and they don't even live here i mean it's not like they have any vested interest in what goes on on our internet yet. They feel that they have a have a duty to go online and destroy a you know people's comments and you know it's it's one thing where somebody makes a comment and then you make a reference to it and a rebutted and then you come back and you read about that but it's one thing when you make a comment and fifteen to a thirty comments come flying at you. There's no way you don't have the time you. You cannot possibly spend the time to respond to all these trolls and it does. I think influence people there are people being influenced by this. This daily comments yet are pro. Ccp i have seen the trolls myself. And thanks for the call tonight. Jean we do appreciate it They are out and in full force. eight five five four five zero three seven. Three three is our toll free number. If you'd like to comment this is free. 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So jeffrey tucker continues with this article from the institute for economic research over at a yard dot org so far as i know this is the first full accounting of what's been going on beneath the covid covered service a topic on which the media has shown almost no interest at all surprise. I'm not surprised. I remember when the media used to have a little spunk thursdays completely subsumed by mostly the democratic the democratic and republican parties both well and even the like if there is a journalist that might have some balls in like you know sort of go rogue and somehow get an article published that you know is in disagreement with his superiors to get fired and blacklisted. And they can never get a job again so well in the case of glenn greenwald as we talked about last week. He walked away from the website that he found that he founded. Yeah how ridiculous that. His own creation. he's. I don't see any other choice but the resigned. Yeah and he understands that he's not going to get a job at this point that every job he's had i mean for the most part has had put some sort of restrictions on him and so he's kind of striking out doing his own thing which is ultimately hopefully what we'll see real journalists like him do and john docile of course has been doing it for years. Yeah what he's doing on independent level. If i am not mistaken yes i think. John's docile is as well. That's what i meant was done independently right. Yeah yes as is. Glenn greenwald okay Tucker says you can read at the american medical association about overdoses or a full round up from. Abc news and we will go. Take a look at article momentarily but he continues. People are dying across all demographics due to the radical transformation of life itself in addition new research is showing that there has been a huge increase in excess deaths in elder care homes probably due to despair and loneliness from the prevention of family visits. And we talked about that last night on this show which you can find it. Archived freetalklive dot com. That's all those people have. I mean when you're eighty ninety years old or however old you might be inside a nursing home You know your family visits are pretty much all you got besides sitting around the day room and Watching tv with the other people who are on. Death's door will and think about those who didn't even don't even have family and they're only interaction was like at mealtime in the cafeteria in that kind of thing covered a bit of this last night but That's all been restricted due to covid so even that little tiny amount of human interaction they'd get from just. The employees really has been restricted feeding him in their room. Now or something yes indeed. So anyway tucker continues the whole patterns year cage. Here's where you're going to die indeed. The whole pattern is extraordinarily and deeply tragic. It was also entirely predictable. And and you brought up that we did and then predict this here on free talk live. I think several hosts yeah their own version of. Oh my gosh. this is what's going to happen and sure enough. It is happening instead of dealing rationally with a textbook virus as we had done. During the whole of the twentieth century we embarked on a new social political experiment in lockdowns. We attempted to intimidate a virus with phd's and political power hoping that it would shrivel and die and in so doing dramatically disabled human freedom and social functioning. What do we have to show for it. Massive carnage and a virus. That is still with us and a relatively immobile libertarian population that still has not yet seen the wisdom in migrating together To the same place. I don't know what it's going to take. I i really don't i mean how much more failure do they need. Do they need to see another presidential campaign fail. Because that'll happen that's happening. And how many lockdowns do they need. How many businesses need to be destroyed before they finally pick up. How many people need to die and migrate here to new hampshire load a lot of cases you know businesses are what are are one of the reasons that people don't want to leave. That's true where they are so it may well be that a lot of people will be freed of the obligation well freed of the obligation and freed of sadly the good life they built for themselves somewhere else. And we'll hopefully come here. It's better than suicide. it's a lot better than suicide. If you're a fear of libertarian. You're not happy where you are. Come to new hampshire. See if that might change. Yeah i mean just being around like minded people should be a boon to your mood your self esteem etcetera and so on I know that it has been for mine. So thank you well. You guys of course and everybody that i've met since i moved here We've been having fun. I've been having so it's it's really sad in ways because the world has turned upside down on its head and gone in directions that i didn't think would happen this quickly and it has and yet on some levels. I am living the best life. I have yet to have lived in the time that i've spent on this planet. I'm having a good time. I'm doing well. I'm thriving here at least by my own personal assessment so it is a five five that thing he does and he has ever done but i do. I do give a whole bunch of credit to like minded folks other liberty minded freedom minded people. That are here whether you're libertarian with a capital l. and a party supporter or an anarchist. And you don't vote. You know to me your friends of the captain. You're the ones who want freedom for everybody and you are welcome here in my book. And especially if. You're a libertarian If you're a an anarchist to does vote because voters anarchists are not a disjointed group. And we've actually got twelve anarchists in our state house. I mean you're probably not there now. Yeah so we will go talk about this. Abc news article titled predictions of more suicides. Overdoses and domestic abuse during covert are coming true in just a little bit. But first let's go to the phones with larry in indiana larry. You're on free talk. Live another thing that i predicted. What happened now because you know. Human nature have not changed one bit now. They want the tracking so that they can track you when you go into a restaurant and also have laws that make you. Quarantine are actually way without notice on a director from the health department now. Is this happening. in In indiana mandating. The restaurant stuff amanda. You're sober to get your name your pertinent information so they can say that There was somebody in your restaurant that i go. But we're gonna track down. Everybody and he came in contact with in quarantine them for fourteen days. The who can take fourteen days off of work because of some Virus either real or imagined the qualities out this and the people that are doing this. Don't know anything about the values. If they did they would have a killer. There should be some kind of a revolt against those shipping. You're you're right and in fact. I had another article here for show. Prep today From it's actually msn news. But it's a new york times article. It's crystal watching a senior scholar at the center for health security at the john hopkins bloomberg school of public health. Who estimated that tracing this is contact. Tracing corona virus cases becomes difficult if not impossible once the virus spreads more than ten cases per one hundred thousand people so they can use it opera charlie to get individual and the language goes also groups of individuals that they wanna call and team. I think this is something polical. I think that have been well. Well planned out. And it's just about the money transfer of wealth from a poor people on the lineup. And i think you nailed it. There leering people balked at it. They are. They know what i mean. You go on a doctor's director nail on the head larry. We do appreciate the call. Thank you very much. Eight five five four five zero three seven. Three three is our toll. free number. If you'd like to weigh in this is free talk. Live the monday night edition. Our number two is coming up. Remember when you heard about bitcoin. How long did it take to realize this little project with film. Change the world. You kind of wish you had got involved sooner. Well now is your chance to be part of the next revolution. Revolutionary inter coin is working to finally make clicks go mainstream. It's designed to be scalable enough to support everyday payments and even elections without the state. It was originally supposed to be a peer to peer cash. The way would all pay one another without happy to trust any third party. 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That's eight fifty five four hundred fifty free as in freedom and we will get to your calls and thoughts momentarily. I just wanted to kick this. Abc news article off. The title is predictions of more suicides. Overdoses and domestic abuse during covid and this was part of freetalklive predictions when the lockdown i started occurring when you essentially put people in prison in their own homes. You're going to see an increase in this. It just seems to me to be human nature. I don't know about the rest of you but it was rather easy to predict. It was depressing. You know even for me. And i'm relatively optimistic person about the future and man in the beginning of this and to even still to some extent now it looks pretty bleak and so i totally understand why somebody who i mean. My lifestyle didn't really change much right. Like i work from home right so i didn't have to go home or anything like that. This is our studio. I live here right Do bitcoin sales mostly on the internet. I run a couple of bitcoin. Vending machines Here in town so you know. There really wasn't much as far as my lifestyle change. But i could definitely feel tangibly that things were worse than they had ever been and just seeing of course no cars out on the road because i still say i work from home. I still do a lot of driving. Still going out and about and going to restaurants constantly and and we were throwing parties still are Social events doing like civil disobedience and things like that but just knowing how Obedient people were being in still are. It's really pretty depressing. So i can totally understand why somebody would say. I don't wanna live here anymore. Well nine months later. Those grim predictions look like they're coming true. According to this article from abc news there is a mental health. Wave to this pandemic dr. Ken duckworth chief. Medical officer of the national alliance for mental illness told abc news. We as a species don't do very well with uncertainty. The pandemic for many americans exacerbated already stressful scenario deaths of loved ones illnesses loss of income. According to psychiatrists. Thomas holmes and richard riley. We also as a species. Don't do real well with lockdowns and being in what is essentially solitary state of solitary confinement that that just doesn't fly with mental health willing. I m a self proclaimed luther maniac for those of you don't know the definition that eleuthra maniac is just a person who has an un does earn unstoppable desire or zeal for freedom and if this applies to well perhaps you are in a lutheran maniac as well and so yeah it. It definitely has an impact on me but this article says additionally stay at home orders and school closures comporting action to prevent the fire. Spread have created downstream consequences such as social isolation eroding support networks and additional financial strain. All these factors are contributing to more suicides. More doses more violence according to the centers for disease control and prevention and specialists warned that this mental health pandemic within the pandemic also will disproportionately affect blacks hispanics and elderly people of lower socioeconomic statuses of all races and healthcare workers. They specifically call out healthcare workers the most affected in including the lower socioeconomic a category. So we'll continue to talk about this a little bit But first let's go to your calls and your thoughts. We have logan calling from blackstone virginia. Logan you're on free talk. Live ella logan logan going ons put them back on. Hold logan going twice. No logan right. Let's go to representative. Max abramson in seabrook new hampshire maxine. You're on free talk live. Hey how are you guys doing tonight. exhausting it's all been campaigning. My butt off on the coast Trying to help Some of the other liberty republicans. I do a lot of recruiting to get Preliminary people running for Legislature especially statehouse. And we have. We have in new hampshire pretty good team but Were looking at like voting records. on obviously gun issues tax issues business issues property rights school choice And i think new hampshire liberty alliance which looks at new hampshire They found that Average democrats only preliminary about twenty three percent of the time on average the average republican votes preliminary about five percent of the time interesting. You've got well. I mean it's it's pretty bahrain. For republicans your average generic republican Is not that fantastic. Their scores ranged from like forty one percent to one hundred percent so there were a few who are just like you know i just i. I would say kind of generic placeholder But you have a lot of libertarians. Who are going to show up to vote tomorrow and there might only be you know two or three. Libertarians on their ballot. But then you look at all these other down ticket races you know. State senate state house Some of the county races and some of the local races and if they're partisan and they don't know a lot about the races. Liberty valid dot com usually usually not always recommend the republican because they consistently have You know fifty fifty five percent better Liberty scores. I'm curious max real quick. If this takes into account some of the candidates that may not be running as libertarian for example domestic or co host. Here freetalklive is running as a republican for cheshire county. Sheriff and so that will show up as a libertarian. So does your research conclude that well they. They looked at Incumbents who are in there we've only had a couple of served as a libertarian Two terms and obviously Kayla dire granted finney and a few others who are serving Joseph stock up We've had a few libertarians serving as libertarians. But i mean when you when you get down to you. Know maybe ninety percent of your ballot There's no big l libertarian candidate on your ballot there's no constitution party Pirate party none of the pro. Liberty parties are represented. and all. you've all you've got is basically a democrat versus republican And but what we found is even your generic. Pretty valid is an embarrassment honestly. I mean it's basically a pro republican Piece that is i mean. I'm looking here. Just as an example at the keen liberty balance a for listeners aren't familiar it's a. It's a website that supposedly some debris sater's dorthe new. Well that's the thing. They didn't actually endorsing nuno's surprisingly but they also didn't endorse. Darryl w perry the obvious liberty choice. The gubernatorial race. But if that wasn't bad enough they also completely ignored a matt. Roach who is Is one of the liver libertarians. Who's running as a republican here in keene. I state representative and they also did not endorse aria. Di mezzo who is obviously the liberty choice in in cheshire county sheriff here so You know the go ahead. Ballot dot com would always work preliminary candidate but even a lot of second amendment groups and taxpayers groups Just randomly. they'll just leave something blank. I i had my first year. The there was a second amendment group. That didn't endorse me. And i have a one hundred percent score on second amendment issues and and i never found out why and ever since then all the gun groups all the second amendment groups now endorsed me every time i run. I'm actually glad. You called tonight. Max because i had a question. I saw a news piece from reopen an today where they said there. They submitted an amicus brief to a supreme court case. Here in new hampshire apparently the democrats in the legislature are trying to move the public hearings that they're supposed to have for every bill In the state legislature. They're trying to make those online only to hear about that. Yeah all of our committee hearings among housing this county They've been doing all of our committee hearings online ever since The lockdown obviously. I'm against the lockdown at counterproductive No matter how dangerous you think. The corona virus is the lockdown and math or actually working against public safety reopen. Hampshire's argument was that this is actually straight up unconstitutional to take these out of public view and going online. Only hey max do you want to hang on. We'll bring you back after the break. Thanks our toll. Free number here is eight five five four five zero three seven three three. This is free talk live. We've got a more coming up. Divvy a pretty good investment for free talk live their ad campaign started in september two thousand nineteen from mid march to mid july. The values soared by ten times. It's not too late vishnu. Wallet hasn't even released yet and other things are happening. 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Org let's go back to max. Max thanks for holding and wanted to give you a minute to rebut what he had said. It wasn't a rebuttal that i was asking for either. Yeah i i was enquiring. I saw the news today. Max is a state representative. Here in new hampshire is a mover. I believe the free state project. And so i figured you would know about what happened. I'd heard that it was all democrats in the state house who voted to move The public hearings new hampshire for listeners. That don't know we supposed to have a public hearing on every bill. Meaning that anybody anybody who wants to show up at a public hearing for whichever bill they want to talk about and talk directly to the state representatives on the committee that are hearing that legislation. And now they're doing this online. Only which well one could argue increases. The number of people who in theory could attend one of these hearings because now they're online Also means if you don't have online access you are shut out from From these hearings. And i just wanted to know what you thought and even if you do your silenced right. Yeah so it. I've done a number of these now executive session on bills. Which is what we kind of. Build up or down or amended or changing. Those are also public hearings. But the public doesn't on those so i'm not objecting to having executive sessions on bills. Be done that way. But even there. I'd rather have in concord be done in in in public view with the public at least being able to raise their hand ask question may come But committee hearings on bills bills are actually introduced. The state constitution says that that has to be done in concord. It has to be in public in. The public has a constitutional right or at least a right under the rules to speak on every single bill. That comes up one of the great things about the new hampshire legislature. So but as something else being done about this. I mean i i understand. There's some sort of a court case. Do you know who's involved in in this case or are you familiar with it. So what we did is we basically requested that. The new hampshire supreme court look at the issue. And the issue of contention was whether or not the new hampshire supreme court should look at the whole state constitution for just one small provision. The democrats only wanted to narrow it down to one really small provisions Which which favor them. And we wanted the new hampshire in court to look at the entire state constitution which is pretty explicit that everything has to be done in concord. Either the or the state house You have to have public hearings. Public has to be able to have the right to have a say on bills and so forth And so that was another yet. Another partisan issue all the republicans fever transparency But the democrats outnumber us to thirty three to one sixty six. I think so. Are you able to request the state supreme court review something even though you're in the minority no it has to be a majority and the one where the democrats with their members whip doesn't mean like taking an actual you know bullet and cracking the whip but effectively. That's what it means. On their side the There's a state primary and the democrat state primaries now so rigidly controlled that anyone who doesn't vote the way they're told Every single time or ninety seven percent of the time gets tossed they get primary they bring out some activists they move a whole bunch of voters they tell them. Hey you got to vote for this other candidate and if a maverick democrat wins their primary and this isn't just new hampshire. There's all over the country now Or most of the country certainly the west coast And certainly north You know new hampshire where i am Is they'll actually get all their democrat. Establishment democrat voting blocks and turn them out to vote for the republican to get rid of a maverick democrat. They really control if you vote for someone who runs as a democrat We had a few pro freedom. People who ran as democrats and they had to vote for obamacare and rail systems. And all these kind of you know tax increases and big government stuff coming or allama care and so forth that They didn't want us to support. And you get very little actual leeway run as a republican. You have a lot more flexibility. So if someone's a right libertarian. You can pretty much run run for the legislature as a republican. And that's how we've gotten you know. Thousands and thousands of libertarian. Small l. libertarian off. It sounds like a horrible way to go about selecting people to supposedly lead with that everything you just described. Well saying on voter so he's not going to be persuaded into this. But i i definitely see what you're saying max. And we've had some. I would say success with libertarians. Running as republicans here and as you mentioned. They're having some run as democrats but you're saying they'd been controlled by the democratic party which is said controlled or just or stout out right Or the only two or three terms in and they finally had dick pat and who is an actual democrat Not libertarian. At all or chris roberts again actual democratic primary them is spent fifty. Two thousand dollars Mostly out of state money to to get rid of him. He wanted to run for state senate and they poured money into primary them and they got somebody that could control for state senator. So thanks for the state house. Appreciate the call tonight. Max that it's just. It's so many hoops to get a thing. Done it sucks it. It's it's a horrible horrible thing. It's a horrifying. And then the of i don't know what the right word is. The amount of shadiness or shifting that is required to do something that max is just described seems like a whole bunch of effort for very little in return outside of that you wanted to railroad some guy out. I agree. I totally agree. I mean if it if it was unfortunately we can actually have an effect on it from what i can tell and so i still think it's worth the effort. I mean for those who are willing to to put up with that crap to put up with that system and how frustrating it can be because it is frustrating. I mean some of these state reps. Don't even last more than one term because the just it sucks so bad. Politics is awful it it. Just i mean what he was describing sounded ugly and what bothers me. The most is that it sounds like you have to be a very ugly person to do those things to carry those out. 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Forty thousand dollars worth of inter-clan tokens from inter coin inc. in exchange for advertising. If you think freedom is important to checkout enter coin at inter coin dot org you can invest in this project and potentially make big gains or just be involved and perhaps shape its future inter coin dot org circling back to what we've been talking about During the first several segments of tonight's show we started off talking about the great barrington declaration. And how it was rebutted. But then proven true by the increase in lockdowns and then we also spoke a bit about The yet to be fully counted deaths as a result of governments cracking down locking down And many of the policies that have been implemented on citizenry since the events of covid have occurred and how these mandates these lockdowns are causing people to die and not just the elderly. We talked a bit about it. On last night's episode of free talk live about the elderly specifically. But we've been talking now about not just the elderly but the rates of suicide overdoses domestic abuse and other forms of violence. Stay at home orders. School closures important actions which prevent the virus sped have created downstream consequences such as social isolation eroding support networks and additional financial strain if only saves one life though. It's all totally worth it. I don't know that doesn't have to save one life unbalanced. Many of these accelerating public health crisis. Crises have already or were already worsening before covid nineteen in two thousand eighteen. The us had the highest age adjusted suicide rates since nineteen forty one really by june cdc survey of five thousand four hundred and seventy s adults found that one third reported anxiety or depression symptoms about ten percent. They had considered suicide in the last month. And the rate of suicidal thoughts was highest amongst unpaid caregivers essential workers hispanic or black respondents and young adults from people age. Eighteen to twenty five may be the most effective group. Duckworth explained affected We need to take a look at the age. Impact worth at in age where identity in the age where identity is developed. Young adults are missing. College is not the reason why they're killing themselves. Say yes. i think you'd be more likely to kill yourself if you went through college. And you ended up with one hundred thousand dollars in debt and then you go into this job market. Now keep in mind. This article wasn't written this. Abc news article was not written from the perspective. That the jeffrey tucker article this is just. He pointed us to this article to say here's sort of a broader perspective of what's happening in the world that abc news actually put together. Yeah here's a mainstream media source actually acknowledging this as a problem right whether they will understand the reasons for it is another question right. The opioid epidemic previously considered the greatest public health threat in the us has also worsened since the virus. You don't hear anything about it. Of course you don't hear anything about that. In fact somebody else made a good point the other night that you never even hear about the nicotine vapor remember. A year ago somebody pointed out a year ago. It was every headline everywhere. I'm gonna make vape illegally. Had a they had a death count remember every day it was like. Here's how many people died from the nicotine. And we've been speculated that the because there were reports of covid servicing earlier than this year right on late last year That it could have possibly been cova covid. Not the vaping then killed the kill news people because it was like a lung respiratory illness or they could have been warming up for cova with another fake disease. Didn't work out for them. Well in that case they did get some political points right like all the fear around that allowed them to raise the smoking age. I believe nationally to twenty. Twenty-one did they not i don't recall lengthy. Did i recall the talking about. I don't know if it actually they did through. But i'm pretty sure that happened and And then they went in and they banned like flavored was it flavored cigarettes or flavored. Vapes flavored. I don't know if that was national or lake if there was just some states but they definitely had some You know made some real political hay out of that. Everybody stopped talking about whereas all the deaths. I mean because pro. 'cause we were told that it was the black market. Actually it wasn't the nicotine that it was when people looked in. They researched it. They found out that it was allegedly black-market. Thc vapes or cannabis. Faith right That had supposedly like a vitamin e. Acetate in it as some sort of a filler ingredient and that was what was allegedly causing the deaths. While are we supposed to believe that. No one is buying those anymore because some of course they're still buying those the. Thc cannabis products are still illegal in most states for recreational purposes. So anybody with the thc vape outside of the legal states. That isn't traveling to the states. The legal places to get them. They don't know where those things are coming from. And why would the chinese manufacturers who are making these things with the vitamin e acetate or whoever it is why would they change their formula. Just because a few people atrocious. It right right. Well regarding the opioids the opioid epidemic. after overdose deaths overdose deaths briefly plateaued in two thousand seventeen stricter regulations of prescription drugs were enacted and guess what happened. Deaths began creeping upward again because of illegal synthetic substitutes Like fenton hill. So yeah go figure. The government bans something or otherwise makes it more difficult to do business or get in some way shape or form. People turned to the black market. Well one thing we're definitely going to be keeping an eye on tomorrow. Night is You know whether you whether you agree with voting or not captain. You're having a voting special. After having it vincent is but he's invited me to be a part of it so i also here on the Soda after free. Talk live tomorrow after ten pm. Whenever i think maybe right away actually right at like ten six will kick off a special episode of questioning authority. Which vincent show We did the same thing on in two thousand sixteen. And so we're gonna kinda you know. Watched some of the returns and comment on it. But the most interesting thing for me isn't going to be who wins the presidency but whether or not the people of oregon vote for decriminalization of hard drug. We mentioned that saturday. Yeah right so. That is a first for the united states and could be very important if it passes because then you'll see other states follow. I think go oregon. I mean it's tempting visit. I think on their. I've got some friends. I could probably pay visit. Probably got account take a crash on somewhere. I'm not driving across the country. No i would have to fly on. And i guess i'm not going to get well. Yeah at any rate. The article continues We were making some improvement in terms of treatment options for opioid addiction prior to the pandemic dr harsh terrain medical director of well bridge addiction treatment and research told. Abc news. however there were still major treatment gaps that have worsened now that we have a superimposed pandemic. it's a strange term to use super pandemic. so they're they're admitting not. The pandemic was imposed superimpose superimposed imposed super info. I don't know what that means. i don't know either. It doesn't seem superimposing. Wouldn't supra imposed one level even further. Hire yeah more than forty states have reported increases in opioid related deaths since the pandemic struck according to the american medical association. Eight five five four five zero three seven three three more free talk live coming your way. Do you have health or energy challenges. Would you like to support your health and energy from a product that people consistently feel the uplifting and health billion effects from the first day they consume it. I introduce you to green meadow away. 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That's eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom if you wanna call in and weigh in on anything we've been talking about or bring up whatever's on your mind. You're welcome to do so. We've been talking about this article from abc news talking about the different statistics of things. Since the lockdowns things that affect human beings negatively as a result of the government mandates. The title of this article is predictions of more suicides. Overdoses and domestic abuse during covid are coming true. We've talked a little bit about the opioid pandemic but over doses. Both fatal and non-fatal have also increased twenty percent compared with the same time period in two thousand nineteen according to the overdose. Detection mapping program the incidence of first time users also on the rise korean added isolation economic pressure and family conflict during quarantine are all factors for that said they said overdoses. This year are up. Twenty percent is that what you just said overdoses. Both fatal and non-fatal have increased twenty percent pretty significant paired with the same time period. Two thousand nineteen. Yeah that's that's significant. It's one in five right. So on the increases twenty percent so we don't percent more right. Reports of domestic violence are also rising. Surprise did anybody didn't we not. You know well duh. I mean you're at home now with the person who you're supposed to be with on a you know a relationship basis but most the time you're out working so you don't actually have to stay with that person constantly and now you get to know they're really like you know or for the full day twenty four hours a day seven days. A week and many experts are worried that the cases reported are but a small fraction of those happening because we already know how under reported domestic violence again. I'm not excusing it. I'm just explaining why you're likely to see more of that. You know if If somebody knew their partner was violent but they're being abused and you know there's sort of that abuse mentality of no he loves me you know like they'll make these excuses to to stay with the abuser. Well now. they're actually with the abuser more often. So of course the instances of the actual abuse are going to go up and they can't get away from each other easily and she can't meet anybody else's you can't go to a bar and meets somebody nothing. That's the best way to do it. But like even the The online dating sites are discouraging. People actually meeting. Yeah so weird. It's name your prices and kelly owens. The executive director of the new york state office for the prevention of domestic violence says the calls to domestic violence hotlines dropped in the first few weeks of the pandemic but then increased by thirty percent in april and increased by seventy six percent by august. This is just in new york city. Wow right so. They remained elevated into september. She added so it dropped a little bit in the first few weeks when everybody was like okay. Well we'll just get through a couple of weeks right in But then by april thirty percent increase and then by august seventy six percent. I hadn't heard the august numbers because we initially reported on this. And we're you know. I think we covered it in april. But i don't think we've really seen anything. Since then for number. So the united nations warns that the pandemic is likely to undermine efforts to end gender based violence globally while stay at home and social distancing orders may effectively trapped the abused with their abusers. Wow does that mean that. The united nations is going to stop propping up governments. We can only wish given that. They're made by governments. I don't think so through the. Cdc recognized that violence is a serious public health. Problem did they. when did they recognize it. it affects all people in all stages of life and many violent survivors suffer from long-term physical mental and emotional health problems. It's important to keep in mind. The domestic violence is usually under reported. Owen added public health. Specialists policymakers are taking steps to try and address. These arming trans no. They're not now if they were they would just go ahead and lift all the restrictions and let everybody move about freely and go on with their lives. You're now free to move about the country. Unfortunately that is definitely not happening. Restrictions are getting worse he says for example many states have eased restrictions for telehealth easier for you to zoom a medical provider during a crisis. Thanks wow some are making making it. Easier to prescribe medication for opioid use disorder. Without an in person visit. You can get your drugs. Yeah that's how it that's what you do that's what you do. Just start taking different drug. See that's that's actually one of the great ways that the government is as demonstrated their utter disregard for human life is that they They they say oh well if you get off heroin and you takes the boxing instead or you take methadone instead then. We won't put you in prison right. Well the thing about it is. Methadone has worse withdrawal. And this is. I've heard this uniform montana's addicts that i've worked with I've never. I've never been an opiate person but it and suboxone to newer one is even worse. They say it sounds like it feels like you're a fleshes being pulled away from your bones when you're when you're drawing from that. So so what is the ben and they'll keep you on that for the rest of your life. So what's the real benefit of these programs. Were what it does is. It means that instead of the money going to some south american cartel old american drug cartel called a farm right. That's the only change. It me spun to prison which is a problem. The government created in the first place. So they're basically hijacking the black market customers. Yeah yeah well. What is is big. Pharma sells drugs and like any good Well like any bad and he drug cartel. They need muscle to protect their kirk right so when they need a hitman when they need a murderer they call the government and they get people murdered over the summer. The cdc released guidance for people experiencing abuse and for those coping with extreme stress during the pandemic cdc recommends making a plan. If you live in an unsafe own practicing self care as much as possible and trying to maintain virtual social connections with people outside your immediate home the word virtual means not real yes so none of that stats could containing plan. What kind of plan. Cdc community level solutions should prioritize young adults. Racial and ethnic minorities essential workers adult caregivers. According to the cdc which said these efforts should include economic support efforts to reduce stresses related to racial discrimination promoting community social connections and care for those at risk of suicide. The pandemic is going anywhere. Duckworth said no kidding. It's the new normal working on a new abnormally narrow ought to be fun. We predicted this. I know i did as soon as it happened as soon as lockdowns happened. And everybody's like it's only gonna be two weeks. I said you know it's not going to be two weeks. Two weeks flat curve can be away longer and like why do you say that. It's like well. Whenever government takes control of thing. They rarely they rarely give it back and if they do give it back they only half give it back. Well i mean what's the point of being in government if you don't have the power to ruin the lives of others. Yeah so at any rate it's bad it's gonna get worse if it is getting worse. Would you like to hear about what's happening in massachusetts. What's happening in massachusetts in. They announced today. A new series of corona virus restrictions for massachusetts including a curfew for businesses reduction of the indoor gathering limit and a tighter face mask mandate massachusetts already had mandatory face. Masks in place is now even worse. A stay at home quote advisory. We'll be put into place is like a tornado. Watch be at home. Advisory has been issued for native as a kid. I mean that is a good question of like the political. Wording here what does it really mean is an advisory the same thing as a curfew They say it'll be ten pm to five am beginning at twelve. O one on friday between those hours residents should stay with Stay home with exceptions. Like going to work or the grocery store baker That's the governor. Charlie baker signed an executive order that requires indoor recreation facility. 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Tonight's myself the captain and ian and nobody in you were telling us about Some horrible developments in massachusetts. Well and it's not just massachusetts where we're seeing some restrictions being re increased tightened up. You know it's happening. In france and the uk and other countries there's other states new york state also telling people that they have to quarantine if they come in from another state or they have to be at the various tested for covid nineteen within three days of arrival but in massachusetts just to give you an example of some of the restrictions are putting into place. It is governor. Charlie baker who says our message here is very simple this by the way according to cbs in boston. We can't afford to continue what we're doing. We wanted to do everything in our power to avoid reverting back to phase one or phase two of reopening plan but that requires us all to step up and make some changes unquote. The limit for indoor gatherings now at private homes has been reduced to just ten people. The outdoor gathering limit is now set at twenty five indoor and outdoor events at homes or event. Venues must end by nine thirty pm. Also they're closing restaurants and all entertainment venues facilities do think this stuff spreads it night. Don't die outside of outside of you know there's no like tanks and military clad dudes with guns running through the streets. What about this isn't martial law. Well martial law enforced by the military so the fact that it's not law enforced by the military means that it's not marshall marshall means is just a police state look is also updating. Its face covering order to require everyone above the age of five years old to wear a face covering in public. Even if social distancing can be maintained so the old rule was on that you could you. Could you know like go for a walk without using a mask as long as you are walking at least six feet away from everybody else now. They're just saying nope. Now you gotta wear a mask no matter where you are outdoors indoors public private. You know maybe you could take the mask off in your home. My days is staying out of massachusetts. They're definitely coming to a middle. We can talk more about that in just a bit but first let's go to joe in grand rapids joe. You're on free talk. Live hello jill. Yeah hey there are My my governor in michigan just In a roundabout way even though she was slapped down a couple of weeks ago. at it's new prescriptions. Really with the health department was on with gretchen. Well now if you're gonna go into a restaurant you have to show. Id your name. You have to show id. Yeah they're wanting. Id name phone number address. All this crap. I'm not sure how this is not a violation before man but Oh because the it's the restaurants who are violating your right to privacy. See it so the government is doing it. They're violating the restaurants right not to violate yours. Yeah they're foreigner blackmailing restaurants. They're gonna you know we'll pull your business licenses this kind of stuff and You know it's not a single one of them. Almost none of them will have the balls to actually refuse it almost none of them. Well you know it's like i feel sorry for the businesses. You know my. I work out at home my gym. You know we have to ask where. I'm not wearing a mask on trying to work out. No dari you know. Cancel my membership. And i'll just do it at home. You know i'll walk around the block. Whatever but I'm not doing it and people are not gonna you know here's my license. Take all my personal info down. Just so i can eat a meal for Oh it's it's you know we're one step away. I mean seriously. It's it seems like we're one step away from you. Know nineteen thirties. You know germany. You gotta walk around papers you know. It'll probably get that way. I had to walk around with papers. Eight called driver's licenses or id and all that. Yeah but yeah. Now it's now it's worse than than it's ever been and i definitely share your concerns and in these restaurants now it's just more work. It's more busy work for these people like you if it were actually busy and it's not because numbers are down but You know the more work these people have to do now. They got to collect now. They've got a phone numbers now with every customer that walks through the door. They have more hoops to jump through here. In in new hampshire. They're telling business owners that run convenience stores that they're not even allowed to let their customers take their own coffee cups anymore so now the the clerk has to do more work because if you want a cup of coffee you then have to wait in line to get to the clerk and then ask for a cup then you could go and pour your own cup of coffee but it takes extra time but the real question is. Are you ready to fight back yet. I mean i'm. I've been waiting for somebody to start to bugaboo because it's about bleeding time here in l. That way i mean we don't have that many rights left last the next thing i mean if they're going to take any more rights all they all they can do is come and take our take. Our guns already got the rest of our rights. They've already got got rid taking our speech away from us. Post you post posted. A video This morning on the facebook From a journalist. I follow on youtube. And she's not. She's not extremes. English used to work for the bbc interviewing a doctor and he had some minor disagreements with what's going on in the uk with their government immediately. After i hit share you know you got flag by their. You know whatever fact. Checkers police right. Yeah yeah if you got an opinion. They're going to have what it is. The government has this is a story. Big business is going to get in line with them and anybody doesn't fall in line. They're gonna shut you down you know it's over. So would you support secession if your state was talking about seceding yeah One hundred percent man. I was just talking about this. The other day The free states would have to build a wall to keep the because the commie states would they'd start cannibalize each other within a few months but I don't know michigan swing states where you never know which way it's going to blow but I would definitely move somewhere. You know if it came to that point where you may come to considered new hampshire because there is a secession moving movement afoot here. That's one of the reasons i'm here needs work. We need help. Well yeah we do need. Help need numbers you know. I mean there aren't enough libertarians. In america to make an all of america free by any stretch of the imagination but there are enough. Libertarians in america to make new hampshire free. There's only a million and a half people here that makes million voters not even not even a million voters not not certainly not a million votes. I think there might be a million potential voters. When you say. Joe i think too. Many americans are caught up in this. Like tribalism you know. I'm vote for my guy. Even though he's he's his policies are garbage. And you know it hurt. It actually hurts me. You know if if you're the economy's in the toilet and you can't do all the little fancy programs he's politicians promised. You gotta get the economy right and everything else will fall in line and right now. It seems like they're trying to crush us. They're trying to crush the economy's along the nail on the head. I think they literally are. And i think there's a number of reasons for but they have more power when people are poor is the long and short of it when people have money. They don't they don't feel like they need the government and we appreciate the call. Joe thanks a lot by the way. New hampshire vote totals in twenty-six teen the presidential election. You look at a roughly seven. Hundred thousand votes cast interesting so about half the population. I would like to point out this other article via the new york times says. How are americans catching the virus increasingly quote. They have no idea so they don't even know if actually airborne or not so this whole like how would you wear. You caught it from anyway that circumstance. Yeah they joe yeah. He caught it at this restaurant. 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They're they're restricting. Indoor gatherings down to ten people outdoor gathering limit twenty five All restaurants casinos entertainment venues facilities theaters all have to close by nine thirty pm. And the governor had this show and the face covering requirement that they already had is now becoming more stringent. Where can you do more than require a face mask. Well it was there was an exemption previously. If so called social distancing could be maintained meaning. You're in a park you know. And you're more than six feet away from other people. They say you could take the mask off now. No more of that in massachusetts. Now you have to have a mask on at all times anytime. You are in so-called public so in a business that's up to the public on a public sidewalk in a public park basically anywhere saying camping anywhere. They're saying out in public. You'll need to have a mask on in massachusetts. Here's what the governor had to the story. I believe it's now pronounced massachusetts was it is The governor baker said this. Now see if you can make heads or tails of this legal sounding statement quote the mask requirement remains what i would describe as guidance. Yeah that doesn't mean anything if it's a requirement it's not guidance but the difference here is we're eliminating the six foot spread. We're basically saying if you go out in public where ask said baker. And that's how i felt about it. The word requirement. I generally don't associate with the word guidance. However in all of the government these orders that are being issued by governors. They almost always talk about guidance. They're always couching. These so-called requirements in terms of this is the guidance on covert. Here's the guidance on how you open a restaurant. I was in grade school. I didn't go see the requirements counselor and the guidance counselor. Yeah well right and Another good example of guidance is like you know if you're climbing a mountain irs rocky trail. There may be like a a line that you could hold onto right if you need a guiding line runs you to where you're going to or you could try to do without the line and you do. It's up to you whether you need that guidance or not but in the legal spectrum that we've seen so far this year the term is used interchangeably with orders and requirements. And i think it's all very confusing. I think it's purposely confusing. And i think most people they just go ahead and presume that these are requirements. Because that's the way they're talked about if you're lost in the woods and you need guidance usually turn to your compass or some other form of director because humans will actually travel in a circle by by nature of humans. Like if you're lost in the forest or whatever and you don't know which way to go because you've never been there before and you can't find the trail or whatever right so you need guy that's a whole different terminology than the word requirement. It is whole different. I mean whole different. Meaning they're not even in the same ballpark. Has anyone actually challenged this though. Has anyone gone out there and sure and you know gotten a ticket for not wearing a mask when going your masters from up on high. Speak to you bay. That's not giving any tickets. I mean i. I've never put on. I've i've put on a mask. I can go to the bank. They're not giving them here. There are there definitely giving tickets and other places guy named cadman who we both know received a ticket out in california. Rea- fights that because i'm trying to find it uninformed. Here's what happened according to cap man. He called me when he tried to fight it. Nobody and here's what they told him. They called him the day before. The trial was scheduled and said. We're cancelling your trial. We found you guilty of What you did and you owe twice the fine claimed happen. I don't have proof that that's what happened. But that's that's what he told. While i do that side that could work out for them well and could because that's not how any of this work off. How's he going to go to court. He needs to hire an attorney now if he wants to force them back in court off topic just because of the dude's name. I have to wonder if catman has ever been to katmandu spill differently. Either way it'd be even funnier katmandu. They've been giving out tickets. We do in miami as well. There's a special squad of cops that are designated to go around. And give people social distancing tickets and mask tickets so yes they are definitely writing tickets in some jurisdictions but here cops yes Here new hampshire. There has been one ticketing but not for masks that we know of and that was a karaoke lounge that was ticket or a bar. That has karaoke. Was ticketed for two thousand dollar fine for breaking the so-called guidance on how to run a restaurant. Wow it's y here's one more for you from From the big baker guy from massachusetts quote baker says however despite all these restrictions that they're talking about businesses to close nine thirty all these other sections he says it's critical not to shut down the economy or schools. Quote what we should not do to deal with. These trends is shut down our economy or close our schools to deal with this. Schools are not spreaders here or anywhere or will call that doublespeak yet. It's been proven now over and over and over again by real life experience and longitudinal studies. So what he's saying on one hand. Is that business too dangerous. We can't have people doing business. But you can send your kids to the government school. Everything's fine there and we're shut down the economy. Just shut down businesses. Which makes me wonder if he knows what the economy is made out of what the word even means it doesn't it. It wouldn't surprise me if politicians had no idea what half of the definitions of the words that use our We know just from watching things. Like presidential speeches that they've gone from off the cuff to highly produced. And this is one of my beefs about politicians in general is that when they do give speeches particularly presidents and things of that nature. Look for the teleprompter. Because it's right there right. Somebody has written speech for him. It's not him giving the speech. It's all right there on the teleprompter he's been put into makeup and wardrobe and he's appearing on stage for that very reason as if he were a television production yep eight five five produce four five zero three seven three three more. Free talk live is coming up news from news dot. 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Twenty twenty one and we'll see you at fork fast dot party so we were talking about nasa -chusetts or massachusetts i guess should be called now and There's some other news coming out of new york. I mean there's plenty of news coming out at a lot of places also in other news from massachusetts they They there have been something like three dozen towns that have gone all the way back to what they call level one or tier as one initial. Crackdown where so-called non essential businesses have to close. And all that it puts them as skin or else it gets phase one again. It's coming right back New york post reporting about new york the state so this is not new york city but the state of new york According to the governor there most people who visit new york we'll have to quarantine for three days and then prove they are negative for covid. Nineteen before they are quote free to go about their business just visiting just visiting new york. The strict new mandate which exempts new jersey connecticut and pennsylvania resident so the three states that glittering directly To new york are the only ones that are exempt and It eliminates the governor's quarantine advisory list which restricted travel over forty coronavirus hot spots across the country. Now they're just restricting from everywhere except for new jersey connecticut and pennsylvania now travelers must show proof of a negative test taken within three days of arriving in the empire state and must also quarantine for three more days and get a new covid nineteen tests on the fourth. So that chance buddy. Well they're going to try to find you if if you let's say are going i'm just gonna guess here right because they need to be stopping people not gonna find me in new york saying if you're going to new york then they're going to to find you right so they're not yet going to be setting up checkpoints. I don't think at the like the the state roads or whatever that are coming into the state but that's probably coming. I mean that's not happening now but there's no reason why that won't be happening in a month from now. If you got a license plates from anywhere outside commuted states that could be something. That's going to happen. That could give them probable cause in their mind to stop you. But also i guarantee you if you're checking in at a hotel. That's going to be the crux of where they are going to. Focus their efforts to crack down truckers truckers. Come from out of state from all over the now. that's a good question. Is it considered visiting new york. If you're just passing through yeah right leaving. I came in. And i'm instantly leaving. I'm not visiting. I wanna go. Don't get out of the truck. Yeah i'll tell you. Don't mind me of some great words. By frederick douglass escaped slave oritur. He said power concedes nothing without a demand never did and it never will find out. Just what people will quietly submit to. And you have found out the exact nature of injustice and wrong which will be heaped which will be imposed upon them and this will continue until they are resisted. Either with words with blows or with both frederick douglass great quote So if you test positive for covid nineteen you must isolate for two weeks. According to the governor at his press briefing quote four days plus three days seven days. And that's basically by all probability the incubation period said cuomo as he announced twenty or. Excuse me two thousand and forty nine. New cases across the state and eight deaths reported yesterday quote. There will be no metrics. There will be one rule that applies across the country. Anyone who refuses to be tested must quarantine for fourteen days. Wait wait repeat them across the country everyone except for new jersey connecticut and pennsylvania residents across the country. It'd be he intends to imply it. Apply it in new york anybody from from across the country. Right new yorkers who return home within a day of leaving must take a test within four days of their arrival. So if you go away for less than a day basically you walk go to somewhere else. Besides new jersey. I guess yeah and you come back then. You have to take a test within four days if you're gone for longer than twenty four hours then the new rules apply which means you have to take a test within three days. What happens at the airport. I suspect they are going to get your information. I mean new york city has a very large airport. Does it not. I think they have more than one. So gloria and kennedy. Yeah okay so you know. People fly all over the place for all sorts of things including international travel. That's got to be a hot spot for connecting flights. I suspect connecting. Flights will probably be left alone. I think their intention is only if you intend to stay in within the bounds then You know the you're connecting flight. You missed your connecting flight or the flight. is otherwise canceled for weather or something like that sticky. And now you have to stay in new york for a couple of days yeah again. You've got three days to take the test. So if you refuse to test they're going to quarantine you for fourteen days a presumably. That may be against your will. It's not real clear. What if you're connecting flight leaves in two days. You probably are okay. But that's not legal advice. That's just me speculating. Based on what Whatever i it's gonna get ugly. This is bad. This is very bad and we know that monkey see monkey do applies in the united states of america at least traditionally when they're that where for politicians politicians he politician. Did i repeat myself and i do too to some idiot imagined that i'm a member of congress but i repeat myself. Imagine half the people you know and realize that half of them are below average yup. So how'd you like to hear about thanksgiving which year this year. There's restrictions you can. You can see into the future. California has a plan for you. I've heard something about this. And in fact. I've heard that the restrictions for thanksgiving are more restrictive than the restrictions for having a funeral and so people have said this. I'm not having giving. I'm just having a funeral for the turkey. Everybody come on and pay pay respects funeral but yes. Let's let's hear about the draconian thanksgiving being imposed upon californians this year. Yeah in case you think this is a joke. It's from newsweek. Dot com is not the onions babylon be. But here's what the governor there. California gavin Governor gavin newsom said quote gatherings are defined as social situations that bring together people from different households at the same time in a single space or place when people from different households mix this increases the risk of transmission of covid nineteen according to the california department of public health therefore all gatherings must include no more than three households including hosts and guests and must be held outdoors lasting for two hours or less. I really wish. I knew what these idiots were really trying to accomplish by this the longer. The duration of the gathering the risk of transmission increases said the statement gatherings that outdoors are significantly safer than indoor gatherings. All gatherings supposed to be held outside. Attorneys may go inside to use restrooms as long as the restrooms are frequently seven. Pm on how. Nice well they also want to make sure you go in and frequently sanitize there needs to be somebody working the thanksgiving restroom attendant aja. I'm gonna call us something. I'm going to call it. The no thanksgiving sorry more coming up they A little bit late there with the music not sure what's going on at our choices to get fast relief without taking another pill because now sunny bay heating wraps pillows are available at both amazon and walmart yes see sunny base four and a half to five star customer reviews on amazon dot com or walmart dot com our made in the usa microwaveable heat wraps eatable neck pillows and extra large body. Wraps are designed better for perfect support. 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Our toll free number is eight five five four five zero three seven three three. We might have enough time to get you on if you would like to call. This is free talk live. i'm your host tonight. It's the reverend captain. Kick ass joining me. It's it's in nobody. We were talking about what. I'm calling no thanksgiving because no thanks. I don't want any part of your klis giving your your restrictions over my celebration now. I mean i'm not. I'm not a thanksgiving can guy i mean i like eating up instantly but like yeah. Thanksgiving is a holiday whatever. It's fine if you want to the better holidays on us. It really is because there's like not a lot of folks like either trying to shove politics religion down your throat. It's just about eating thanking then getting table for things. yeah so with that regard. It's it's fine but apparently no more. Yeah no thanks to the government gang here. California has come out with their recommendations guidelines mandates. Whatever county for new rules that they're saying here so this is from the california department of public health. They're calling them safety guidelines for all private gatherings at being referred to as strict restrictions. Here so presumably. It will be a misdemeanor crime. If you're caught violating these restrictions. Okay hold that thought for just a minute. Because i have to say thank you to liberty is life. They are amplifier today. They are a silver level amplifier. If you would like to be an amplifier of this program that stands for advertise market and promote you can go to amp dot freetalklive dot com and sign up over there. We only ask for five bucks. A month you can give more obviously. There's some little perks for that. If you sign up and what the money goes to is getting us on more radio stations where currently on around one hundred and nine hundred stations nationwide. We could be on more. We could be on two hundred two hundred fifty three even three hundred. It's all up to you. Go visit amp dot freetalklive dot com. Thank you to liberty is life we appreciate your contribution so in addition to saying that all these thanksgiving gathering must include no more than three households and must be held outdoors lasting for two hours or less. So telling you how long you can hang out with the limited number of friends. They might allow you to see. You might think for a moment that okay. Well at least we can hang out with these three households. Okay well there's a few restrictions on how you can hang out with them according to this So in addition to being forced to be held outside you are allowed. Only to go inside to use the restroom as long as it's frequently sanitized so there are parts of northern california. This is statewide. Why parts of northern california. It's going to be cold. You gotta have a cold ask thanksgiving you rant one of those party tents too so you can make sure that if it gets rained on that your thanksgiving won't get rained on so like you know. It's not a nice day for the weather. Northern cal my you know has the same type of weather. Is the pacific northwest right thereabouts. At least in parts of it you can get one of those party tense for like what fifteen hundred bucks. That's what everybody wants to spend on thanksgiving. The new rules state that those are the gathering quote may remove their face coverings briefly to eat or drink as long as they stay at least six feet away from everyone outside their own household and put their face covering back on as soon as they are done with the activity. Now we know that they were also telling people in california. They had to while eating just generally at a restaurant. They had to like the face covering while they're by put it back on. The latest guidelines reminds me of the handmaid's tale. You have to keep your face covered the guidelines add quote face coverings can also be removed to meet urgent medical needs for example using asthma. Inhaler take medication or if feeling lightheaded. Because you haven't had enough oxygen for example The existing face covering will set out by the cdph the health department. They're also apply which state everyone must wear face coverings quote high risk situations including an outdoor public spaces when maintaining a six foot distance from. Those outside of your household is not.
The Hedge Podcast 44: Pete Lumbis and Open Source
"Join us as we gather around the hedge where we dig into technology business and culture with the finest minds in computer networking. Tom Did the see you back with us here on the head I see that you're at home as always with your box. KRILL is in the back corner those are what you do network diagrams. Yes. Added Tom's networking diagram. He gets forty different colors in the big pack. That's. Important thing. But those diagrams are only for the executives the ones that. For the for the for the little people to use pencils or even thinner crayons or do use permanent markers, let's well for the other people I use Omni graph and lucid. Okay. All right. So even open source in your tools I see. So, Pete is with us today beat lumber sour you today beat all the way from California and doing well, thanks for us. That's a that's a big way away from me for for a little while I? Am I am heading back. East. Here a few months. Oh, really. Okay. Cool. Are You bring your metal lockers with you? Probably, these things he thinks you're not really useful. Stuff mainly, just cables. In there and disclose it just like back in high school. So then everybody can see it. That's. That's it. That's cool. So. Great. All right. So today we are talking about open source and Tom has apparently a long list of topics to talk about for open source. So Tom Hoping Intel. Talk. About Well, just A. Open source is a big part of my day to day and. Consuming head and working with it and. Helping engineers work with it and stuff and I think it's an important topic. So. I don't know I guess some of the things I'm interested in or you know what? How does how do enterprises interact with open source and how's that going to change in the future? I. Think That's a pretty interesting topic and you know what are what are engineers doing network and specifically network engineers? How are they evolving in regards to open source and and stuff like that. Okay. Well, let's start with the first question how do enterprise interact with with open source and actually people? I have a better I mean I I have experienced from being in a quote unquote enterprise and ugly an enterprise hyperscale and dealing with open source. So what's your impression? Pete is changing over time or people are getting more open to it more open to open source or is it still pretty much what it's always been? In a garlic and. You know I think that's interesting. Anything there's to to take on it that I see anything the first one is. Kind, of your classic view of like freeze and Freedom I. WanNa. Change it I want to do something with it. I want to write my own bug fix finding in the enterprise. It's a very, very small minority of folks They're very vocal but I think it's a small minority I think we'll what people want. Is that open source creates business flexibility a lot of times you can find multiple similar implementations or multiple avenues has support You know for from specifically at Cumulus A, we are not an entirely open source product, but a lot of our components are open source and those things allow you to do things like, oh, it can create routing with open source effort are on Cumulus or on sonic, or it can run cumulus software on melanoma or on edge core You know I can replace one open source product like for routing with another open source product like go DP depending on my needs and I think it's that ability to have some more control that a see a lot more in enterprise other than the desire to go right coat. But again, I I'm casting a wide net on say enterprise there. So what does but the flexibility that you're talking about there does have a set of trade offs and problems right. For, even even for e especially actually for smaller implementations or smaller deployments am switching from four routers running effort to for about his running go BJP can actually be pretty darned traumatic switching between the thousand running hundred to the other can actually be less traumatic. If you're running two thousand dollars. I'm assuming you have a tool set and you have people who build tools reveal for people or for routers than switching like that means a lot of staff, right? It means switching telemetry toolset means switching configuration tools. Switching now you understand how to troubleshoot. So you've seen people deal with that as well in terms of their flexibility or do you think people not think about that when they're just like Johnny thing run Yes to both. Zoe think we actually have one customer that's using Gobi DP that I know of off my head specifically because they saw greater stability at multimillion routes and software. You know, and so that's great for them and they have the capability to do that, and the problem they have though is that they don't have anybody to call support and they don't have development engineers on staff. And so their support avenues get up that's been kind of a challenge for them but I think more broadly speaking about tooling. I. Think one of the things you have to think about when you did about open source is the quality and the value of that open source project and what that's going to attract from a community perspective just something existing on get help doesn't mean anybody's GonNa Build tooling or. Best Practices operational practices around it. You need something that you can actually learn from leverage even if you're not gonNA write code for it, you know how should I automate this? How should I be monitoring it? How do I pull data out of it? You know I think the implementation is one thing the where the rubber meets the road and what it actually looks like in that network is another thing. That would be curious to hear Tom stay on some of the stuff he's seen. You know how much does that implementation or the concept of like a reference architecture on some level matter to you in work you do I think a couple of things I think the the support piece, we kind of the natural thing that people talk about. Well, if I use an open source project, I don't have someone to call totally valid, but it's definitely not the only aspect of. The. Learning, how to engage with the community I think is is I would call it almost a prerequisite to to working in this area just things like how do you know a project is even viable? There's actually you know there's a way to evaluate that and a lot of it has to do with your connection to the community and stuff like that, and just because they're viable today doesn't mean they'll be Bible tomorrow. So it's You know there's a lot of trade offs, but the the bigger thing is probably scale comes into this a little bit but I think the bigger thing is. is is your willingness in your desire to take care of this thing and and control your own destiny? There's a of places, a lot of businesses where it just does not make sense. For you to take that level of control but I think we're it does make sense a know the operational aspects are you know flexibility is is amazing. You can. You can respond to changes in the environment. You can do all sorts of things you cannot do commercial software or a vendor provided solution I don't know I. I think the to me the the biggest thing is learning how to interact with the community and learning how to evaluate is a software project something that you can use right now and when it becomes unusable. I think even more importantly when at some point in its life cycle, it is not what you thought it was or it's not meeting your needs. Can you swap it out? Have you built this in a way that is modular that you can take that open source project and push it to the side and put a new one in. Architecture that's like that. Then you're, I, think much greater risk when you're using open source. I. Think. It's it's important for us to to kind of acknowledged you know the traditional use of the word free when you talk about open source, right? There's freezing freedom. So is it a license that allows you to be flexible and make modifications? What does that do for you? There's a where they say free as in beer right meaning just doesn't cost any money in those two things might be the same as they might be different right I might give this away but not allow you to make modifications. I might allow you to make all the modifications, but you have to pay for source or you have to pay for. Support. and. Then there's always my favorite which is free as a puppy in which it's great and you get this thing. Yeah and then it pees on the rug and you're like, Oh my God, I regret that I ever took the set. And I think that it's important to said that contacts when we talk about open source and talk about that framework because again I work for a pseudo open source company that has that only sells things right we have commercial offering that's one freezing freedom But then there's free range routing which contribute to which is free as in beer and freeze and freedom right anybody can go in contribute. Expand our you know I believe it's under GPL so you have to give back if you're going to sell what you're changed but you know your private enterprise could go and take it to make modifications if you wanted to But the main reason I make that distinction as I think a lot of folks when they think open source in I think enterprise, they immediately think software development. And that's not necessarily the case, right? I. Think it's a lot more to do with what can be built around this. What kind of what community what flowers what are tooling can kind of grow out of this even if none of us are going to be suffering helpers I think things are much more accessible in that that people sometimes think they are you don't have to be a developer to use free-range routing. You just don't. You can download it, put it on a Lennox Bach and you can actually accomplish a lot just with that without writing a single line of code. I think that's an important message. So, D-. Do you think that is a big change in the way that network engineers are interacting with the free with the open source community is they're becoming more consumers rather than participants that we've moving in the open source world from a where only those who participate participate or users right. In other words, you'll have people using the software user or people who participate in developing it, versus what we seem to be saying now is we do seem to see a consumption model where people are consuming the software and they're doing nothing but consuming I, think that's true across the board or do you think that's Still. Not, really out there I think it's definitely easier obviously to use the consumption model. But the evolution I see happening I. Don't Pete. I would love to hear your take on this I. Think as you start to use it, you start to see the possibilities you start to see that you can really do these things and you can contribute and I think what will happen is the consumption model will will eventually translate into more participation for people who weren't participating before because there's lots a waste participate, right? You don't have to write code, you can file bugs, you can write documentation. You can and your smile there as. The really sexy topics, but it's fine. It's fine. But I I see that happening. So as more enterprises start to use this or any starts to US consumer start with the consumption model then it's like Oh i WanNa make better. This thing is going to make life better for me is going to make life better for others to. and when you get connected to the community and you start to see especially the F., our community I mean we've talked about them they're only one example but. My interaction with them has been outstanding. If I had a question or there some thing that I think is a bug or or just just asking for general help go go on the F. R. Slack. There's a bunch of people there. That will spend some time with you I mean, how could you not want to participate in a community like that? And think that it is there will always be a minority of people contributing back versus just consuming but I think there is a huge value in consumption one that consumption is gonNA find new corner cases. It's going to create greater quality from just reporting bugs engaging support but also you find new avenues for employment that you might not have thought of I think you're gonNA find new feature requests he hadn't thought of you know. Developers you know vendors in non-development roles like myself and in customers like Tom, all have very different kind of visions of the world I don't mean that philosophically I mean like what are we encounter every day? What does that cause us to think about and that drastically changes the kinds of features and functionality executive bill and you know I don't write any see at all I. Barely wrote any even when I was in college and I can I would consider myself contributor to free-range routing just because I've helped ideas talking to donald one of the one of the leads they're. About Hey, you know a thing we used to do in tackle lot was a big BJP output and WanNa know who like why did this past get chosen as best? Right and you sit there and you do the long division of the whole like I never understood why the program this doesn't tell me like you know just tell me why you picked it. He's like Oh. That's really good idea. And he put it in there and it's NFL are now and its upstream, and so now when you run show BJP, it'll be picked as best for weight or picked. US. Beth for shortest path and you're like, oh, great. You know the developers not thinking about that. That's purely an operator point of view and I think those are the things that consumption increases although you might not see this dramatic increase and getting back from a code perspective or from pull requests I, think there's a lot of giving back from from an implementation usability perspective. And that I think is really valuable. Okay. That's interesting because that you know we start off talking about how this changes. The interaction between overtime how the change between interaction between engineer network engineers particular knee open source community is changing. So you would you say one thing is that we are seeing people start to realize that they can participate without having to feel like they are. Coating necessarily absolutely and I see that you know whether it. Again, we're going to keep coming back prearranged routing just because I think that's a common platform for the three of us here I think you see it there but we see it a cumulus just within our slack channel where we see customers helping customers. I think part of it's just accessibility for that form form of communication in its accessibility of the ability to get the software test with it and play with it. You know like, Oh, I'm user and I can actually tinker with this and I'm another user with us when we can kind of brainstorm together as opposed to needing some big. Specialized piece of equipment to do that testing in think again it's. It's an evolution mindset of like Thomson earlier like engaging in that community in the value of that community and I think people want to get help from the community by asking for help they become part of the community and I think it becomes self-reinforcing in a very positive way part of this, the that we haven't talked about too much in the open source community is that a lot of what a lot of what helps drive this type of stuff now is that you can do a lab without having a lot of equipment I remember when I wasn't Sisk TAC and I had a huge lab. Just. Two or three racks with that were dedicated to nothing. But me twenty, six, hundred, seventy, two, hundred, forty, five hundreds and stuff like that. You know, I have my own terminal server and I would have you know fifteen twenty routers up at any time I could demonstrate things or do things. We don't have that anymore like you don't even need that anymore. and. Part of that is because of open source, right? That's not just. It's not just a cause of open source that is A. kind of that is because of sources there that happens. And I actually have strong feelings about the fact that open source in what has happened in the last couple of years especially in networking whether it's what Cumulus has don whether it's the sonic project whether it's open network Lennox. But the tooling is out there and it's now all good enough that that needs to extend education. You know I I definitely remember using Minett something in that thing is a pilot trash if you WANNA learn networking or or you've got like some really fancy program that got Cisco sponsorship in your class of thirty students is sharing five, twenty, six hundreds. And I. mean. Like the old twenty six hundreds right right. cable back tobacco serial connections and you like take turns or each one of you gets to take a turn on one of the six routers because the place doesn't have the money for. Their open source tooling where you can build a ten ten note apology with you know Gig. Have Haram I. Mean that that's a total untapped potential my opinion within the education space I've seen some junior engineers lately really taking off with that like you sit down and teach them how to use vagrant for like half an hour or something whatever it takes to get them understanding it, and then you say, okay, you drop on. The whiteboard and sake a you'll make this and do these things and they could be self sufficient. So fast and for a lot of I mean I'm thinking of a couple of examples like they. They learn way faster than I ever did it took me probably two or three times as long as it's taking them to learn the same subject matter and it's because they can. They can stand up this virtual worlds so fast. That's interesting too. That is making a change right there in the interaction between that's a major changes happening in the emir and direction between network engineers and open source like we never would have thought of that ten years ago, fifteen years ago. So I think that's a that's a huge thing that's coming out of it and I think you're touching on something Ross, which is you know we are going through which I think is a mental shift within network engineering that ten years ago open source was not something that was in the land of Network Engineers Right? Like you might have heard of somewhere like you you've built a crummy EPA over with. In the past but you know it never really worked, but you never had the budget to to build the real server behind appliance and the industry has just moved so fast in the space from quality from A. Portfolio that I think it's now really starting to change the fact that we're continuing are like, Oh, I can open source as a domain that I can connect with. Now it's not Lennox kernel drivers anymore, but it's you know projects lake, Napalm. Monitoring tooling that I can run as an agent on my on my switch in other people allow me to run those those agents I mean it's really starting a pull back the curtain on what is possible and I don't think it's it's because for longtime it was oh. Yeah. We can use open source for are sort of the the support systems right mighty and can be open source or or my file server for storing my convicts can be open source it's completely an peace ever rancid. Yeah Yeah. That stuff people you know doing that for a long long time the think. So now we're starting to see packet forwarding boxes and that is totally doable like it's it's not just a support staff anymore it can be the whole thing and I think that even looking back in times we talk about the Community Multiple Times here in the value of the community if you look at a tool like rancid. Or oxidized almost every engineer network engineer, the planet has used one of these tools. And where did they get help? CISCO SP mailer mailer. Something like that has always been gone to. That is the community. The thing is is when it's only one or two tools, your community is not going to grow very fast but I think what we've seen with the blossoming of tools is you can now go into something like the Network Code Slack new see a couple of questions about answerable a couple of questions about rancid a couple of questions about some vpn software I think now all of a sudden, you have a community growing. Because you have all of these kind of overlapping circles of technologies and interests of each individual in a really again at a blossoms. What happens at a at a pretty fast rate so I'm curious Pete what what has been I think you probably have a pretty good view on this wet has what's been the effect in terms of you mentioned business flexibility. So what our customers, what are they buying differently now because of all these things we've been talking about versus maybe like five years ago I think that the there there's two ways to look at the setting. I kind of at a high level from the business perspective in the true purchasing. Is the the shift in mindset is creating a reduction in fear I think these things are becoming more normalized, and so the idea of doing something that is more open source or open source he and paying money for that, and whether that money means a commercial offering whether that money means being willing to like hire a contractor to fix bugs or something like that. I, think that's becoming. More common. I'm not going to say that like everybody's doing it and it's super prevalent but I think that five years ago it was a handful and now we're getting into single digit percentages. You know it's slow growing. It's very. It just. You know again, it's not everybody people are figuring it out, but I see the fear factor going way down but I, think the other thing is just customers have. Started to better understand across the stack. I don't mean just in our he only just but kind of everywhere that. Throughout the Buzzword but lock in is thing. And it's not that lock in as bad. But being locked in an area that you do not find valuable is bad. And I mean that like a lot of people are like well yeah. But we use VM ware and we're locked in a VM ware and I'm like, yeah, and you have a whole bunch of operations and it provides you this value at it's all things for you. That might be fine. But you can replace the server underneath it. Right the eighty six box in sheet metal doesn't matter to you. You're not locked into that component. Anything customers are starting to understand that more broadly across application across compute across network across storage and I think you know part of that is the. Composer Systems. You know you look at things like hyper converged systems right. I can replace many storage with My v San with something else because it's all eighth atoll storage uses the same kind of Oracle's technologies and again I think Joe, like what's happened the last five years that is growing the network space where they're saying alive a great relationship with network hardware vendor I want to. Continue to deal with them but I want the ability to replace them or we see a lot of time. We will win deals against Arista because they say look Orr's gray. We've been a customer of theirs for a long time, but we just need to have an out we want to be able to have more control over our vendors as opposed to having the vendor have the control. Because, the thing we see is If you're a big shop of a single vendor. Who the vendor is, but if everything is that vendor and you have a whole operational team hold training regimen. Everything is built around that vendor. When it comes time for renewal expansion or whatever. The vendor can call your bluff. The amount of time and energy in pain to walk away from that vendor change operations is almost always greater than you're willing to invest unless you were you know, AH, ten out of ten on the pain scale with offender right? If you're just marginally annoyed by like little bug after a little bug. Knock Knock GonNa feel that but the counter to that would be that you can get the same effect with multi. Right and open standards. So how does how does open source just playing the devil's advocate for a second? How does open source actually change that at all like how does that beyond just joining by two different vendors I think it's about the speed and the capability to do those open standard implementations Again, just keeping it to our tomatoes networking ATF has been the thing that is produced great phenomenal common languages in standards. It's also been great place for a mediocre ideas to go and die while people use their draft to get a promotion. You know there's there's no correlation between it draft and working implementation per se or limited refers at working implementations plural. And I think now you have open sewers it creates a check and balance or at least I hope it starting to create a check and balance where look you can build all the drafts you want. But like you know rough consensus working code and we've lost the working code piece and I think open source brings a lot of that back. Right, and again, we think at least I think comedy about. A ATF. rouding, but it covers the whole gamut of things. Right there's probably an open source project that can attached any ats domain or space. And I think that that provides more feedback from those operators. More real world experience creates kind of less than an academia approach. I think one place you've seen that has been. Like the net copying stuff and comparing that like some of those model ninetieth models against something like open configured, and where there's been friction and challenges there, and again, that's that's almost entirely driven by open source. There's another another thing to rest that I was just thinking about if you. So if we're thinking of a network and like maybe maybe even even built it as a left side right side sort of thing right you have a multi vendor strategy and you're going to have vendor see over here and vendor whatever else over here if one of those sides was open source, there's there's some opportunities that you admit if you didn't us open source, you could potentially miss. Your of necessity you're going to have to look deeper into the internals of the open source solution to make it work a you know I think that I would be comfortable saying that almost as a blanket statement. So you're going to have to know how it works pretty well, and you'll learn more about your implementation and your platform as you implement open source next to like whatever vendor if you're if you're doing a left hand, right hand sort of thing. and. That is value that you cannot get out of having just two different vendors because you're all you're gonNA end up with his double the work. But here at least you get double the work and and more learning and more understanding of your own platform and I think that's pretty valuable and think that you know the simple way to think about that as if it's just two vendors, all you're doing is creating a pair of others for each vendor. As the Aristo box sends a packet to Cisco Box. The arrest of box might pass it on. It triggers something Cisco box and vice versa I think Tom's point you understand your stack a little bit more say like is this actually a bug or is this just you know a misaligned suction within their implementation that we don't actually care about right and that actually to me is one of the values of the way network engineers interact with the network with open source is that because you have the source Code, which you know I'm one of those crazy people have outing I have a get hub clone of the routing repository my local drive and I carry it with me everywhere I go and when somebody says to me well, how does BJP this? Well, I, can go look at the drafts or the are season figure it out but it's almost as easy for me to look at him because NFC just find out just how does it implement it right? So I think that we gain a lot more understanding about what we're doing when we do this when we actually deal with open source and I think that's a big value point. Now, of course, you've got to have the attitude. And the want to go do that right and that's a danger. Right right. You know what you know. What I wonder about is you're going to put your money somewhere as a business to in order to make to make these platforms work I just wonder what goes on in the minds of other decision makers whom I haven't met I know some of these but. What goes on in the minds of a decision maker when? You have to decide okay and I'm not talking necessarily about the smart people in boxes thing because I think that's kind of an interesting argument. But like you got to spend your money on something in theory, you could you could invest in your people and and US Open source to do some of the things you do with the vendor and move those costs around a little bit What do you think of that? What's the? What's there? I have an extremely cynical take on this I want to go first. So so my take is, is that. The difference for companies is between hiring people who actually know how to do the open source work who actually no networks versus just hiring people who know. You know basic configuration type stuff and it's much harder to interview for to manage and to keep. And to train and keep trained people who actually understand networking than it is to keep in train people not to configure network devices. There's that here cynical takes wealthy but maybe I'm a bit cynical about it but that's as well. But that's kind of my take is that I don't know many network engineers who know even how to interview people for network skills. and. So how? How do you hire them? How do you build a critical mass of these people and if you're a small company and you only have three network engineers for network engineers in your company? How are you building a critical mass? Anyway. Of Out of three people out of four people, I have a very similar take credit I think hiring is just ridiculously hard. You know used to joke that there were times and where it. We would have we tried a bunch of different things we would try like the do the configuration. We would do the Lake take-home asa you'll do like the whiteboard you would keep it simple and having described trace route. I'm like you know sometimes you feel like your interview processes like one of these is a picture of your backside and they're the ones that picture of a hole in the ground choose wisely. And that's the whole process. You know it's it's hard and you know. There are people interview well and are terrible employees, and so I think I'll think a lot of it comes down to management risk tolerance the manager you know our I'm the director, the EP, and I'm going to pick this strategic direction and we're GONNA get a team and we're going to execute on the strategy and it's you know definitely outside the status quo. If I if on that execution I'm gone. Is the leader who made that choice? I'm the one at risk there. If I just hire a bunch of mediocre folks and do what everybody else is doing and it doesn't work. I'm just following best practices. That's right. Nobody gets married for the big vendor I mean look. Bloodletting has never been a really good idea medicine and nobody lost their medical license in the eighteen hundreds for bloodletting right? and. So yeah but I also think there's an attitude difference or. A. Really Big difference between an open organization or an organization that deals a lot with open source an organization that doesn't if. Journal Organization that deals. You must be involved in the community you don't have A. Because you're again, you're not gonNA have enough people to have critical mass around any particular product or project. So you're going to have to be involved in that community so that you have people who know what they're doing whereas with a closed organization you can pick up the phone and call your vendor. The whole thing about tech support, which you've got a earlier time is kind of a a double edged sword. Isn't it? It's kind of like, yeah, it's nice to have it but. In some ways. It's better to fail and learn. Right, right. Sometimes, this conversation goes to scale to I think sometimes the. I've been conversations where it's like well I just don't I don't have scale so I can't I can't really do that and think scale makes the conversation easier but I think. It also what it does get. What scale does is is sort of reveals the business logic. Better. Large scale reveals the business logic better because you can see the returns and shorter timeframe than if you're at small-scale but I guess the reason I'm saying is that I think if you examine the business logic behind using open source to run your platform I, think you'll find flexibility but I think I feel like there's untapped potential in there. There's things that your business could be getting from the platform that it is not because the platform is closed like I. Think there's business value that is just waiting to be unlocked even for a small team of two or three network engineers that that we can't see it right now because it's behind the vendor seal and I think this comes back to the concept of an attitude shift that has to happen in witch. When you were living in the world of that vendor seal like you say, your brain doesn't even begin to imagine possibilities because you know they're not possibilities. I had a conversation with a customer while back now, like look we're thinking about putting routers on oil platforms and they have a satellite link that's really slow and highlights and terrible and microwave link. But we caught we pay way more per bid on the microwave link, and basically there is a a loss of financial loss of use the microwave link when oil is below fifty dollars a barrel. and. So we come in every week or every couple of days depending on the price of oil and we go and we manually shut off the satellite links so that people aren't streaming spotify over this thing that's that's costing us. Money. And it's really good idea in like twenty minutes. I built like a PBR policy that hit a Yahoo Stock Api to pull the price of oil and change route weights. And I was like, okay. Well, if it's greater than fifty dollars like use the microwave and if it's less than fifty dollars like deep reference the microwave link. And I turn that around I don't know our to most of that time with me figuring out how to use the API for this. The stock and point. And the customer couldn't like this. Isn't like I feel like you're lying or doing something with static routes here it's not That easy like I'm not writing it in the M.. It's not hard when it's not em. Let's would go on a t shirt I feel. tickle tickle is not your friend. Not even tickle me elmo. There is I think there's a creativity that is lacking because we've never been allowed to be creative right if all you ever doing painting by numbers, you understand the concept of a blank canvas and I think that I think you're exactly right anything again as the open source community grows as more tooling comes out I, think it starts to give people peeks into what is possible and you take the next step. Up, and you're like Oh there's a little bit more. I can do when you take the next up go more it can do and then I think you start to reach that kind of the pinnacle place where you're at Tomor you've you've kind of dabbled in a bunch of different things in you're like Whoa I can do some real damage now like I can build a product that would otherwise have cost us. Tens of thousands of dollars per node. By. Applying duct tape to open source projects and I'm not saying you're writing it from scratch like they're. They're mostly implementation details I'm guessing. that it wasn't like this you know even five years ago it wasn't you. You would have to get dirty with the code to do some of these things I while you were talking the thing I was thinking about i. At a pass job I I was involved in a in some business logic to figure out whether to run a particular service and sell it to customers. and. So it went through the whole thing did all the spreadsheets and all of the analysis of what's IT GONNA cost to build the service how much? How much of the customer's going to pay on an Mr see basis, and then when does this wind? Is it all come back in Windy? We'd actually start making money you know pretty standard you know sort of exercise for that and and I, and I had to throw obviously all the costs, all the PECs, all the people costs, and it was amazing to me. So as we looked at how what it costs to have engineers. On. Staff to support the solution and they were going to have to be net new headcount looking at the spreadsheet site I built us all out and tour I could just plug the numbers and I figured out that if we hired one additional engineer it would you know we would start to make money on this product some number months I don't remember like a year or something but if we added to which we really needed, it pushed that out that calendar out for. Eight or nine maybe even a year longer. Sienna wait a year longer by bringing another person and that's all that stuff is really obvious but it just hit me like a ton of bricks like holy cow, the licenses, the boxes that stuff it everybody has access to that. What everybody doesn't have access to the human potential and that person that you're hiring, you have to wait a whole `nother year to be profitable because you hired that person why in the world would you sit them down in front of a terminal and say type these three commands over and over and don't think about anything that don't create anything as absolutely bonkers to think of of engineers like that and. When Your Business has to wait to to realize revenue because you you spent so much money on them. How do we convince people I? Mean I don't know maybe this is too hard of question for short podcast have. Another ten minutes or something. But how do we convince people at the value is there and how do we teach people how to interview like you're saying and how to build how to get involved in the community I mean, I think a lot of people are just afraid of heights. You said Pete that they get to this pinnacle. Well, I don't know used. To be was that when I was in high school and when I was in the Air Force I used to climb ninety towers without safety rigs. Now I didn't really care right. I was just like, yeah, it's ninety tower whatever I'll drag this multi meter with me and I'll just go up the side of the tower is all this conversation's making me so sweaty. And nowadays you down the rock on the top of the Rockefeller Center and I looked down and like I can't believe I'm looking down this number stories twenty years ago wouldn't bother me. So I just think you know we have a fear of heights to some degree in our because of the culture of what we built, how do we turn that around a little bit or is there my wrong is that? People are eager and dying to go do this stuff. I think the biggest thing is just acceptability right I think. Is always the great example you know everybody's like look I can buy the book and get my C. C. A.. P., but it's a new certification I and try try but it's not even the certification. It's just like access to resources to learn yet right it's a combination of resourcing and structured learning. You know I am a H- you still a believer in the value of something like this ECI because it gives you a road map, you know a blueprint of roadmap. There are structured learning in labs that people have built. And there is collateral out there to learn it. You turn that around and say go learn open networking. What is okay okay. Downloaded I downloaded the source code free-range dragging. Did it get clone now? Like, we have problems where we have these virtual labs customers can use and anybody can go and get one and they log in like console alright. I'll. Be. There's no the you have to provide some structure behind it. You have to like give me you know it doesn't need to be training wheels but give me some signposts I think that is a huge thing that is missing I think it is mainly missing because of what we mentioned earlier like there have been no resources right the CCA house, a financial component to it that has driven people to seek out those resources. But trying to learn how to do network automation, for example, where I have to have physical routers to use answerable. To. Maybe put a couple of items on my resume. That's a at a very low Roi for a lot. Of folks. But if I can give you virtual networks four or five nodes of. Open network clinics, plus for you're drowning, you can help learn BJP can go learn VPN. You can really start to understand these technologies, but you know that's the you have to have both sides of that equation balanced. You have to have the resources to learn and you have to have some structure behind that learning I, really truly believe that's the biggest thing, the skillset of the engineers obviously, you cannot operate without it and it is a premier responsibility. But the if you if you just do that though you'll still will fall short of the mark because you eventually get to a place where management middle management people who are leading. These infrastructure teams. have to be willing to. Take a risk on their people, and on the idea they have to be willing to bet the whole farm or anything like that. But they have to be willing to say we're GONNA. We're GONNA try and do something a little differently and and walk away from the comforts on little bit and and probably what has to happen there is somebody has to either either show them the business logic behind it because you can't you cannot make a business case out of my engineers will be smarter if we do it this way, it's just it's just not gonNA convince any business. All by itself, somebody has to be there to talk economics and to talk. Business logic with business leaders and say look because of these dollar figures, it's actually worth taking a risk. You're not taking a risk for no gain you're taking a measured risk. For these potential benefits and then the thing that I would communicate to them. As if you start here, if you get this little win, I guarantee you on the other side of this. There are bigger risks to be taken with with greater gains to be made for business value but you but you have to start you have to do something and I think the Leadership of business of the businesses that are doing this sort of thing have to be willing to do their part to they can't just say our engineers were smart now, and so now we're good where can people find you if they want to get in touch with you and talk about open source the best places probably twitter you can find me at Pete CCD. Okay at ABCD I'm GonNa get you to change that to the new certification or nonce anti-certification if I ever get done striving we nuts do you have a blog or anything just right over a cumulus every now and then right? Yeah I spend all my time reading and writing for my paycheck and so it makes it really hard to have the brain cells left to do for fun. Okay that's cool and Tom where can people get in touch with you as always I'm on twitter at Thomas and also on linked in at the same. Okay. Cool and I'm rest white. Rule eleven tech, you can find me. I don't know wherever else linked in who cares and thanks for joining us for this episode of the head. Subscribe to the hedge on your favorite podcast service or follow along at rule eleven dot tack.
Podcast: With EMA, BroadSource seeks to place cloud communications at the center of a mobility revolution
"This is the green and I'm the publisher of Telecom Reseller, and this is a special podcast on behalf of the cloud communications alliance and Tier Publications. And with Hayden Salt. WHO's the CEO abroad source? He'd been. Thank you for joining me today. Okay. Good to talk again. Well, day beings were were going to be having a really interesting podcast today because we're GONNA be talking about brought sources announcement recently, sources EMA mobile assistant puts power of cloud collaboration in the hands of the end customer a very interesting line we need to sort of define if you terms before we got there. So first of all, what is brought source? Can't thanks ducks I brought source is global. Integration and Software Development Company we've been specializing in cloud collaboration platforms since about two thousand and two when we were lucky enough to be deploying platforms like the world soft Broadway platforms into major service providers All around the world and my team and I busy still building. Platforms for service providers but more importantly developing applications like amy. We can talk about in a few minutes to help the people operating those platforms do a better job of looking after the customer subscribing. So it's so think of us as being a company that understands the mechanics of collaboration service providers and how they feel been works, and then for us, we look at opportunities to improve the way they manage and operate that platform, and we do that by developing product and and today we'd like to share a couple of conversations about about how the being used by service providers around the world. And give people an appreciation of just how. Central you guys were and are. To the development of communications I, think in a sense when CCA began, you're the engine that basically the initial members were sharing. Yes. We were lucky enough to have participate equality early on in the in the evolution of some of the early soft switching technology and. And a lot of the membership we're consuming foams they were trying to. Generate products and bring you services to mock it all day networks using this view. Of Switching, architecture based on voice over Internet Protocol and. And it was an engineering themes that were sort of lashing out all flocking testing. And making sure that it was able to be styled consumed by. By by customers in the business. And Enterprise market has been a it's been about seventeen journey for us and. And about six years ago, seven years ago we started to look at what applications, what product wanting to lecture property. Could we develop the that we were? Fundamentally spending a lot of time on as system integrators, engineers, but. Could we what could we co defy? And what could we automate and what which could be orchestrate in code? I given a Lotta these platforms. We're starting to open up with allies. He's an opportunity for us to start to look at. CODA fine all that hard work that we'd want putting as engineers, and now we can do that as as a as a proxy platform. And that brought to you the mobility. And that brought you to 'em you mobile assistant. Emma. Yeah. So This is about us. This is about helping service providers make it easy to interact with their cloud platforms? and. EMU IS AL platform that a lot of back. Using today to manage the. Environment there are soft switches there on subscriber databases to be able to migrate customers around their environment to be able to back up and restore and all those really difficult and complex operational toss inside the service provider. But the EMU my boss suspend is. Way To to bring that capability out into the hands of service providers, end customer themselves, and the way we do that is to use the mobile sign and the mobile signs real estate. As the window into the forties environment to manage that clinic collaboration platform, and so EMU our platform, and he's being now deleted as mobile assistant out to their end customers who can consume it on my device. Now. In your release, it said Hemmitt provides the opportunity for end users to move to the cloud. Simply and quickly, which means they get to enjoy the benefits faster without the need for complex technical and administrative. Intervention. So what does that mean? Yeah. So we say with all that customers of different sophistications and and different capabilities around the world in different journeys about how they treat their custom as they on onboard their customers and how they. I'll say customers to participate when when receiving. So the first time, a clad cub collaboration, sympathetic class PBX, cloud phone system you know like a cloud. Collaboration Platform. And that's all the way from a very simple spreadsheet being passed between the service provider and customer asking questions. Question is feel that these forms plays these tables plays all the way through to very very sophisticated and complex portals, which service providers investing to make available to to their customers to help with the on boarding journeys, who I you, what do you want? How would you like? You'll collaboration service configured. and and we see that as A. As a barrier to success, we see the little of questions, the amount of dialogue manatad that it's taking the ability to extract information out of a customer you might not not what it is and how they want this service to built, and so we decided to sleep the whole problem on a tape and try and simplify the direction dancer something in its. Simplest form and we know that every single person now he's very familiar with smartphone technology the way to navigate an application on a mobile side, the ability to scroll and. Click and tobacco to enter kick them base or maybe even speak at your my ball sign to enter tonight who we thought. Let's think of all of that to build a new experience to acquire the information needed for. Seventy provided to activate that customer service and so for US EMU amy, my boss. Is exactly that it's a little wizard. It's a an assistant that runs on the end uses my ball fine and they very simply swiping. Through. Days. Zero. On boating activities and so by the end of that journey via an activated subscribe on the Cloud Collaboration Sense provides network. Now one of the examples say your announcement to recent announcement gave was Vodafone Germany. Correct. So we were very lucky to have been asked by Vodafone. Germany could take that concept into the the new product launch called one that business experts. It's a cloud collaboration says they offer to small to medium businesses across the gym and marketplace. And what I wanted was a brand new way to onboard the end use customers the not technically sophisticated people running small businesses and they wanted to speed up the prices and the wanted to remove the amount of dialogue that this interacting the twain as to find themselves and the customer they want us to stop a truck roll they wanted to stop engineers having to go on thought they wanted to spell spreadsheets moving around the environment to be able to provision customer. and. So using amy extended its capability out. What we call a progressive web application, which we can talk about in a minute the very pasol architecture that removes a lot of the friction involved in people participating, and we can talk about that in a minute. But what we've launched is the my one. Application, which is given to end users. To be off the series of questions to very simply on themselves, they devices they configuration Andy No matter of a few minutes in fact up and running on Vodafone's One business express platform, and one of the main is for Vodafone significantly reduced. The amount of time it's taking to supervision activate uses on the network. It's removed significant amount of areas that have could through Through these spreadsheets that move around the place to act customers and to be honest we've moved to a world now that customers are familiar with, which is that of a mobile application night different to the way you might be doing something very simple like incident banking, for example, which is a very smiliar mode of operation now to us and to my that very consistent feeling you feel like about them activating themselves on on the. Business Business Business Platform. You you throat your announcement you keep on coming back to the idea of the customer being in the driver's seat. So is it is it because of this familiarity or is there more to it? It's all about familiarity. So for them, for example, traditionally them, I've been asked to when given a brand new physical Hansen on it is a brand new shawny. Pants it I'm entering a Mac address or something like that. They had to entity summation in your what what telephone have you been given what the talk is that what it's Mac address? Well, the only people understand things like Mac addresses a people like you and I don and that that doesn't make sense for example. Emma now in the hands of the customer uses the my ball finds camera. To Take Soda of the Mac address and automatically barcode scanner. It's all they need to used to physically hold them ball sign up to the to the box that they've been given the pack of a handset that's been allocated to them. And Emma do the rest it'll szekely code scandal the device, and then configure the service being real time. In the cloud, and so they end use a has been given the power of things as simple as the my finds camera. Well, the my boss finds votes recognition type. To speak they nine as opposed to talk. For the things that people are familiar with in the last few years. We've taken as a sort of a consumer by spirit as well. How would he met that? To a better on boarding experience that removes frustration removes eras. How many times a? Service providers have to unwind an incorrect Mac address when when provision network happens everyday still and so we look to find ways using mobile ball technology to remove all of those those those blocking to success. So can Vodafone success with them and be duplicated by other companies inside the CCA. Correct for us this is about. Creating improved. workwise and we consistently say many customers and members of the CI always looking for that next. That next level of efficiency. Next. Literally improvement, it could be either of those things that are very material to the service provider lock cost to deploy. Time to deploy the time to revenue. Lessons very easy things to measure. But it's also about customer satisfaction and getting positive. Feedback and increasing it promote a school so that they can differentiate the offering. So there are many touch points that we think efficiency can be driven into the activity of accepting brand new onto your onto your network and giving them an experience that they're already familiar with And applying it to streamlining processes but my will be using using years of evolution thought of service provided fit but let's look for ways to. Harness the power of mobile technology. Into a thick what he's now a very highly. Programmable, clad collaboration platforms will on ask him the leading vendors and let's bring us to wilt together. And that's the that's the principle. That's the essence of Emma. and. We're looking for also different workflows. Now, that can that can be it can be automated whether it be from. The wine which hands it's a shift out of warehouses to which way activating soft clients on this pulps and mobile find a cold can be done now. Through very, very simple wizards. On a my boss Hein that drives high levels of automation. But in a way which subscribe aimed uses a very familiar with. So you know, we started our podcast with a discussion a little bit about. Broad. Orson, it's relationship with the early. Days the early days of quite communications. Does this sort of take everybody into the next generation into mobility into being very central to the end user story. We we think. So we think. We think the people like Vodafone now deploying applications into the hands of everyone is the end users. It's given us a guy to innovate the actual, not just the days zero experience but the day one plus experience, and then three, hundred, sixty, five days or at least for the next three years of contract. For that for that, for that C. C. I member and the customer. And what we're looking to do is to now from this footprint of Emma, being in the hands of the cups to my now two drives, the consumption of the service today one plus and that goes to the concept that we've developed and deployed a number of providers of adaptive unified communications. So now that we have them application in the hands of the US, we can have drive consumption of injuries faces that make the cloud clever. And Mike, it adapted and Mike Respond to the language names you using. And using the service every day. And we can continue to talk about adaptive unified communications principal and a topic which. Is, aimed at creating habits on. The network serve as you go bachelor day, you'll find physically connected to you now is is able to generate contextual awareness to draw clouds. By given the all connected Internet given the cloud collaboration platforms are connected to the Internet we can drive these real time interaction now. So people can they die the network is adapting its behavior to to respond to a US based. Needs a particular time. You know one of the things that usually true about these podcast we do for the CCA. is usually still the feeling of newness even though five communications and the as an. That goes back over a decade. It's still has the feeling of the future. The feeling of you know this is what's next and so on. and. Yet I think I'm hearing you say that eat you feel. Especially as a company that in a way helped found communication by communications. Now. You're introducing almost a new technological culture. Technological. Way To think. About Communications, that may make quite communications again, very central to what's next. Yeah. So it's about a relevance. We thinking about continuing to look to be relevant in the headwinds of. As as environments that that's a challenging the membership and I think for us, we always look for opportunities clearly to develop product and and and you direct. Customer base by promoting products but but clearly, it's about competing creating experiences which are relevant, and we think that that is a batum mobile centric experience and about the ability to rain the the cloud collaborations, intellectual property and capability you know my ball footprint in mobile real estate and that's really driven the in which Emma as an assistant. Has Been Built interact with with end-uses in a relevant my ball century way that that that that consumer experience my well have have reigned it in the minds of. Of of of scribes so that we can bring that association connection between the Khyber Icees provided but those things that are very To media. Very. My ball century or the scribe themselves, and so for us that about about progressive web applications as a as an approach is technology. To create new ways full service providers to be relevant through through the Wayne which they bring applications today subscribe it's. One of the breakthrough things about quite communications was and is. That it will radically reduces the cost or overhead per customer per user especially at the beginning of certainly has historically been a much more efficient way. To, basically up customer versus the old on Prem Y. And yet it seems to me with with what you're doing here. That revolution may have occurred again that you may have actually increased significantly. The on boarding process the time it takes to make that shorter and less expensive versus traditional quite communications. Yeah. Am I represent a wife says providers now to remove truck rolls. To reduce the cost. To them of of. Activating customer on the network. Significantly reduces the time. It takes to gather the information needed to activate a customer. So we saying some pretty important improvements in in the KPI's and the metric that. The service providers walk out if I'm as themselves against on on product performance and included collaboration and so significant reduction in. Cost per customer we're saying. We're also seeing a significant improvement and time to revenue. through customer being able to very simply interact with the network Vara my ball fight in a wizard stall approach of question. Three just swiping through a very simple process of activating signs intending on voice almost most things which. has traditionally main interaction with with a call center with the help day school or something like that, and so we're just seeing significant improvement. In what we know some of these magical add clever I she'd service providers I'm majoring themselves again. Intends. Part. Of Performance. This is really significant because you know sometimes, we ended up talking about technologies, new technologies and how exciting the are, and it's easy to forget the basic dollars and cents the basic bread and butter. Of you know controlling costs. And making a transaction were profitable. We see we say a significant investment continues in in the development of of Customer Care Portals of very complicated, very beautiful looking by implication portals that service providers from a technology perspective continued to to ask their customers to to participating, and we think that's a flawed strategy we develop. A portal that takes the size of a big screen and has every single can function it. strategies bane to do exactly the opposite, and that is to create these lethal assistance which rum on a browser, a little progressive web application on my ball signed for administrator orange juice of to us just might be resetting possibly. China why something works getting yourself a brand new time I always things happening every day and that doesn't need to be complicated. We need significant hopefuls and investments from service providers the development he's Puerto. When all those tools are available to us today a very passable by ball science with browsers instinct into kin- devices to be able to do these things. That's a really significant thing you were talking about before that this porno structure that we've starkly looked at goes away with this. This approach. Correct there are technologies and techniques now to get the job done but do it on. My boss fine and restrict yourself and restrict the complexity of what you'll creating to just the real estate of a my ball signed and. And for us that's unlocked Significant uptakes in adoption, which is clearly you probably them. A one goal of the service provider is to have people interact with it, work and and so for us. Postal Strategies have been varied and complicated have have always. have. Always feilding INAM on in Kansas, the level of customer adoption, and hike up all these. All of these portal strategies and for us, we're GONNA continue just to look at developing. Using amy was the platform creating little my ball assistance knockoff h he's really difficult problematic use cases. That we now every single provider end customers are experiencing every every other day. So as we as we walk into the final months of the year, what's prod sources message to the CCA? What's next? Well for us. We are looking forward to continuing to deploy new AMAS. NEW IMMI my. Every couple of months as we walked through edge all. All the functionality and capability and right math. Ross is an important juncture point in bringing together day zero experiences of on voting assistance coupled with one plus. Support in terms of adaptive unified communication. So it's not. Not just important to get people onto your network and to be consuming you'll see you'll save us from BAE zero but then from day wanted beyond bringing what we call a deputy unified communications experiences into that environment as well. So, for us, we wyking famously could bring together those two concepts onto a single my Bali experience. So that I'LL CCA membership number, which customers can continue through Mike, Their Service relevant, and differentiated, and interest being and mobile century and and that's kind of what. He's going to pick up one hundred and sixty percent of between now and Christmas, and we expect for the for the used to come. Well. He wanted to thank you for giving us an interesting overview of him. And very importantly a significant shift possibly in the way, we can approach customers in the way. Communications how can develop and in the way see is MCC members can continue to involve themselves especially as we move towards a more mobile future. Where can we learn more about brought? Thanks thanks for the opportunity and we think it's important topics. Well, for SCCM membership, I'm looking forward to meeting with the CCA membership beginning in as a upcoming if not already in destroying wake. The event. So we're sponsoring again, membership and participation the CCA events looking forward to being with with the guys name We have a website at brazos dot com. Which described some of these these concepts and distraught described trauma concept the product that we've been developing against Some of the world's largest and my sophisticated Clyde collaboration service providers. So please don't hesitate to reach out to a marketing team Var Way more than happy to explore these concepts and then had way driving from these concepts into the development of these. Assistance, to improve the way. The provider sizes off we say customer by some to to bring better outcomes for both parties in New Orleans. Thanks I really appreciated. Where can we learn more about browsers? brazos is a gun could be active within many of the events that are coming out from the major collaborations vendors. So please look out for the sponsors of of upcoming events from from Cisco and and from Microsoft from ribbon as partners. Brooksville has way plot, which is at broad sauce, DOT, com dot EU, and In Day, you'll be able to contact US and contact us to be more than happy to give you a call and talk to you about some of these applications and concepts that we're deploying for the membership and others around the world at the moment. Hayden, always very interesting. Very quotable. Always, very cutting edge look forward to the next time we get to talk to service. Thanks. I. Sincerely. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir.
bOnline focusses on the micro-business market, Podcast
"This is the green and on the publisher of Telecom reseller. And today I'm with Anthony Caribbean. Who is the founder of be online Anthony. Thank you for joining me today month. Hi Douglas. Thanks for inviting me. So this is a special podcast and on behalf of the pipe Communications Wyant NTR Publications, and we're marking the entrance of be online in dog c c a and we're going to be exploring what this new company is all about and some of the new offerings that exciting things that they're bringing on board. So first of all Anthony what is be online? So be online is a VoIP provider focused on the micro-business space and that's the 125 users. We bought specifically chose to remain very focused on on the 125 users because those are the micro businesses the sole Proprietors the The corner shops accountants lawyers that have you know one to a few employees because we feel that their needs are very different than the the consumer or the uh, you know, small medium or Enterprise customers and we provide also some add-on Products off the just makes life easier for these micro businesses. So we also bundle fiber ftt. Cat domains email just allows Young Features of services that help micro-businesses digitize their businesses. Now, I understand that you have recently come out with a new platform. Yes, very exciting. We had we've we've spent eighteen months. We we initially launched about years ago. We launched with you know, uh, as a reseller we were using broad Cloud platform that gave us about you know, two years to really go through a very fast learning curve of what our customers wanted and we spent the last eighteen months looking at what's out there. We didn't find anything that was designed specifically for for micro-businesses. So so we built our own platform with a partner that wage That provided the the desktop and and and mobile apps and we've come up with we just launched, uh January and um, we've gone from you know, signing up six hundred users, uh a month to 812 and and this month 1500 users and that's about twelve hundred businesses for us and we're seeing we expect that growth to to accelerate now with with our new platform. It's a hundred percent automated on Thursday evening. So if you sign up today at 5:00 or you sign up but whenever within 30 seconds, you will have a fishing line activated and another minute and a half you'll be able to make and receive calls and that compares to 2 weeks for fix line, and I think most voice Providers, uh take far longer and that's all zero touch so fully automated and very easy to set up a page and within you know within minutes you get your onboarding call. You have 15 minutes. We train you we make sure everything's working and you're off so so we think yeah that that's been a a s giving us a a huge advantage in in this small micro business space where customers just want. They just want a good service that work if it's activated quickly and it's and it's cheap. It's achieved. It's very affordable. And so I think we've got we've got we we finally have the the perfect proposition for for for these micro businesses. And why is this attractive to the partner communities? Especially your own Partners right now? Well, the the speed at which in the East that they can sign up a customer and it works, you know, if everything's plug-and-play they get if they have harmed where if they buy Hardware from us. They just plug and play. That's it. It's it's if it works and you can go on our dashboard very easy to use dashboard and uh, you can choose your hours very important for again for for a micro-business. They they can change their hours. They can choose holidays. We're adding templates where you just add a holiday tap, it automatically goes to out of business hour greetings. You can type your greeting in text ugh listened to it in voice changes converts the choice and then you upload within two or three clicks. You can choose your call Flow. There's four or five very popular templates and um wage, And you're dumb it's if you want to you know, you call flows your call menus. Everything's very very easy to set up and to use and you have that you're really nice reports that uh, you know, any any any information you need as a uh business owner to manage your business office and that's why we think it's so important to focus on a vertical like like micro business because their needs a very different from a business that has 10 or 20,000 users. Now how has it been received so far by your partners? We we don't we don't have too many partners yet. We we go direct most of our business is direct but the the Strategic Partners we have I have have asked to double or triple the the the number of referrals that they bring to us and that's because they see we've got some great deals in 3 months free unlimited calls nobody's doing that in in in the industry and um, you know, the the features which features everything from call recording app on demand to uh, you know, video calls everything's included free in in in the very basic package for nine pounds unlimited calls, you get everything that normally you pay 20 30 40 lbs per month with with anyone else. So for partners, that's very attractive because it off Helps them convert their own business, you know, if they're selling another product it's a it's a great way to entice their own customers to buy their own goods and then get these get the benefit of three months free. So we are looking for more Partners in in the you know, Financial big financial institutions that have large micro-business basis, but at the moment we're just working with three or four big big partners. Well, I guess it says a lot that the your your platform at the point of use is so easy to use that you you don't really need it can be done directly. I thought well it's the idea is to get every every business to use the self-service but at the same time provide a high-touch service because because of business owners want to be able to call even if you give them everything in a dashboard they want to speak to someone especially if things go wrong if there's you know, the internet goes down and that's also why we provide both internet and voice because they don't want to have to chase different suppliers and then everyone's blaming each other and so we do everything everything's on the dashboard. You can see everything you can chat to us. You can get our entire knowledge base. Which our our rep Use is available in a very nice graphical way for our customers so they can find just about any question that even if they don't find an answer this month what reachable we've got a big service team and we're constantly looking at data the data the answer for everything really we can see who's not using our phones with a you know, that they haven't had a proper setup. We can call them were very proactive. You know, you haven't used your phone for since you went live clearly. They haven't had on boarding or they've had on boarding and they still do not know how to use the phones and this is micro-business face is very high touch. You really have to hand there's a lot of hand-holding and uh, hi support the exact hi support and um, you know, of course they also expect a low prices. So that's a combination of you know, low price High touch high cost to serve God. Is something that makes it less attractive for many companies avoid providers and and so, you know, we were in a niche that's for us to attractive because our entire organization is designed to serve this kind of customer high-volume ugh businesses with very few lines each month. I was just going to ask you what type of businesses are, you know, is this best for all you know, we get with all kinds of businesses recently bought a uh, we're seeing many businesses that use mobile. This is something that we never expected about 30% of our customers in the last three or four weeks. They say they use mobiles for the businesses and we all know the disadvantage of using mobile. They get business calls late in the evenings off. There's no proper greasing. It says, you know, they're closed call us in the morning. They they loose, you know, Google doesn't like, um mobile numbers on websites your conversions much lower customers. Don't call you. If you have a mobile number. They think you're you're a bedroom want running your business. So I thought all these reasons and that's why we are very excited to to be able to offer something a much much better alternative to using mobiles, you know in this could be anyone from you know could be a builder. It could be a tax accountant. Um, you'd be surprised how many people use mobiles and it's expensive, you know the month in addition to, you know, not sounding professionals at all. So turning to the cloud Communications lines to CCA. Why the CCA? Why join the CCA? Well, interesting that both the first the first event I went to CCA. It was actually one of our board members Choice Simon Burkhart who who used to run Vonage in the UK? Uh, he he he had mentioned it to me, but you know, I should I should go to the app pens and that that want dinner is where we met. We finally the partner that we have that provides the the mobile app and desktop app. I met Markie very important partner at that dinner. So, uh, there's no question. His has been CCA has been very very helpful wage. Business we probably wouldn't have I wouldn't have had that conversation probably would have chosen someone else and gone down a very different paths. Oh, yeah. Oh we oh, uhh a lot to the CCA. I think these networking and just meeting, uh, you know, the right people in within the industry wage is is so valuable and you know, if if I could spend more time doing this and and less, you know, running the business day today. I think that's what I should be doing. Probably as a Company Seal. So certainly it's we see a lot a great deal of value in life. Once the mean what's next for be online. Good question. It's it's something that the senior management team. So long on this platform and you know, we we had our MVP we're past the MVP minimum viable product. We've were now in the second page. We've almost implemented our entire initial plan and and the next phase is really to speak a bit of time and get feedback from our customers. We really need to understand how they're using our platform where the pinpoints we can see the pain points already, but we need to spend three or four months just fine-tuning the platform. So just fits like a glove it needs to be everything needs to be seamless plug and play and and very natural the box is a big big Focus also, but we're also working with our partner companies to improve the acts of the apps so that we have again we need we need a job. Make everything very very seamless something that us companies do very well that the focus on u x you don't see that much in in in as much in the UK and and Europe but once we have that down the next phase is really um, it's it's accelerating growth and then adding more features that we know our customers want which would be very different than the Enterprise, uh for a player's. Uh, it'll it looks something very different. It could be we're looking at this point is some there are some ideas out there that that we're evaluating but it's going to take a lot of you know, going back to the same point forward and um, really understanding what our customers need it might be something that we've never thought of that. We're very keen to to to to to age. You know to stay within this vertical it's very tempting to go into the ten twenty Thirty seats Market, but uh, we need to stay clear of the that's just very different Market different ways to sell different way to service those customers. And so we just need to be more vertical home and accelerate growth. It's we're looking forward to the the the digitization this whole shutdown BT shutting down the Legacy at work. I think that's a a massive opportunity and it's the same opportunities in France Germany and most of Europe. So I think there's lots of room for growth You know, it's always a challenge for startup companies to get funding and financing and I was wondering about how you were able to do that. Well, I was lucky that I exited excellent Telecom where I grew that 230,000 micro-businesses, but this is a legacy Telecom company sold that company and was able to finance be online and I have a few private investors that bring you know, they've had major exits. So but but now we're at the point where we need to go to institutional, uh, you know, bring bring an external third party instead. We will be raising a big fund some some some growth growth funding, um in the next six to nine months. And that's really to accelerate the growth and and we think there's this again there's a massive opportunity ahead of us. So once we have the platform is is is stable. It's locked down and we've got all our growth channels working will be raising funds around July 6th September this year, but interestingly, you know having funds having this is the first time I've had the funds I've had experience and it's not necessarily down here. I tell this too many people you really have to unlearn what you've learned in your previous to my previous two startups, uh, what work then doesn't work today. So, it's it's uh, you know, put a big effort in unlearning everything that's worth ten fifteen years ago because we're really living in a in a in a very different world. That's interesting it as experienced in whether it is you are you're you're really learning and new learning new things. It's almost a handicapped and and luckily we have lots of young fresh Minds in the company and um, it's it's uh in lots of good good great ideas. But yes, it's it's off. It's important to unlearn and start, you know from a blank sheet because otherwise you're you've got yeah, you don't make the right decisions. Wednesday I want to thank you for joining me today and let me be the first to congratulate you on the success of of lunch would be online the launch of your new platform and off on your entrance into membership in the cloud Communications Alliance. Where can we learn more about the online a website lots of information on there and blocks we've we've like plugs every week. Um, and this this lots of information online also you'll find Control people listening and not not looking at the right up. What is your website address? Its be online at w w w. I feed Bravo online or one word. Thursday and learning. What what what's going on next in the next few months and so on as your company progresses, very exciting, but for now Anthony, thank you very much. Thank you, Douglas, Georgia.
Podcast: Univonix offers automated path to migration
"This is our green and on the publisher Telecom reseller and this is a special podcast for Tier Publications and the cloud communications? Alliance. And today I'm with your see showroom. Thank you that to meet you. So this is by way of an introductory podcast, UNIX as a new member of the CCA and also we're GONNA be talking to our readers. So first of all, what is UNIX? Okay on the process automation fast on from that the nameless enables fitness automation migration from legacy. TV about the news. Only facilitates full visibility analysis and reporting of the customers legacy. And provide the complete set of planning and provisioning tool to assure accessible and Robert Rapid migration project. So basically, we are migration experts. So. Who you who needs and who uses eunuchs. Well if you are a customer that would like to move from a legacy system to a cloud or a system integrator service provider and customer that needs or wants to move from a legacy system to allow them, you would probably meanness. Now, you've joined the CCA. So I have a feeling that there's a specific message that you're. You're looking to to extend the membership because you know that sort of a daily activity for a lot of those companies, you're always sort of moving people from on Prem to cloud. Totally agree with you and I think that the message message we wanted to a is a task that has been done today mostly manually envy automatic. Okay we'll have a lot of features and the very deep system that allows you to take care of all the issues that are part of doing migration project from for the out, we want to take out the fear factor of such a project we want to make sure migration process would be seen as possible and we think as possible. So my message to the members and and and. all -nology people, one I, and the business people that wants this is that it is possible to do it in a very fast sexy way airless way and to minimize issues for day to in terms of manual errors can happen and It is possible and he's been Donna since the festival and we are already after several projects in the past that'd be proven that. So you see let me Let's talk about this a little bit because maybe you can help me understand what we're talking about a little bit better. You're saying right now a lot of people on the sounds like they have a handmade process, a very slow process of doing some of the work that needs to be done in a migration. How how does the process that many people use now compare with what you bring? Okay and I think that the first thing we need to understand when we're looking such a project from the customer perspective will do it only once. And you need people that needs to understand and very, very, very deep into very deepest way I'll let us system looks like on the other hand, you have the Stargate, which is a cloud system. So you need people need to understand exactly how things that works in the legacy will work the same way in the past. So the way we are approaching this is it's not just. Followed by full methodology that we can guide you from from looking at the the the smallest field inside the. Extract today's in the most accurate way and bring it to our system to the point where we provisions the same user the same extension to the in target we do the whole process. Do a lot of allegations. The way do a lot of the Finnish including budget management to make sure that the process is followed up. Properly and not not not any errors in the way because it is a complicated top and we need you to know how to use our to, and it's not how kate it was a very short a couple of hours training, and then you're on your own instead of being a master and mastering the legacy in one side and targets on the other side. So the way we suggest just doing it in the middle in a very user friendly way that in a very user friendly system that's in allows you guys you how to do the migration with. Without trying to invent your own wheel and working and offline files of or excels maybe or any other way that each of innovation was is utilizing or building their own power shells for example, but we are suggesting swan founded way that you can do it and you're a system integrator or service provider, and you have several projects the practice that you do doing one project and the copy to others. So you'll be actually doing the same kind of. The same time, and you can practice that more the project will become much more efficient, much faster and a lot. And less costly and more accurate. Now how is the process that you're talking about from Nevada ix? Unique. Okay. First of all unique in the sense that I'm not do at least with a lot of companies that have suggesting that I am alarm mastering in. This is profession. This is what we do. We are not gration company is a bit all my people are people that know sources knows the targets and knows how knows how the word working between everything works in things so this is our professional. This is one thing. The second thing I, would say that we bill this in years the company is around for five years. This has been a process of. Learning Process thought process that'd be grown together with the cloud infrastructure and we know and we are aware of all the advantages and disadvantages feature Barra gaps and we understand we know how reading we understand the complexity of such projects in one hand, and we know how to build a bridge between the old and on the other. So I think that the way the fact that is able to look at both ways and understand both sides and eliminate the need from partner the customer, just an integrator service provider from undestanding both sides I is is very the. Now my understanding is you don't sell directly to the end user set correct. it depends we have We have and users and customers that they have their own it system and not people in their own it that we'll. To directly through US I have to say that it is an option, but it's not it's definitely not my preferred option. My preferred option is to work with system integrators, partners, service providers, vendors we need, and we believe that project like this is mostly it's not just that the challenged it's mostly logistic challenge and and the logistics behind such project is. In way in some ways is much more important than providing the technology. I don't have capacity limits in in terms of my tool and the tool can run very fucking literally might be thousands of people day. The question is all those people. Who they have the device is have you some place? have. The supporting infrastructure number fourteen and so forth. So because we see that there's a lot of logistics around the which need. But we need a partner me preferred to work with the park that will take care of other logistics that that have people in the ground and to do. So if we're talking for example and we are addressing large customers, large enterprises because of customer is the most value we have associate having A. Customer with tens of thousands of extensions, spread, worldwide hunting dozens, locations, and sometimes even dozens of PBS is different and we don't have the support that we have built for that but the logistics behind this. And I is is at least the same challenges -nology. So we will provide the solution to do that do the migration itself automatically, you will be able to system integrator. The positive will be able to build all supporting logistics behind on top of it. From the standpoint of the companies that are selling services and helping large enterprises to the task of migration how does your product give them an edge? Okay first of all. I love this question because this is one of the main. The key points about our story was given a big edge because if three as an example compete in one customer. For the same situation budget I can. I can be rest assured that my customer though the will be working with me we'll be able to be much more competitive in terms of time and cost is one thing. That by only means otherwise there's no reason for us to this. This is what we do. The second thing I would like to add to that. Is that once you are more familiar, the more familiar you are with my system and the more familiar you are with how to provide different type of speech. So their customer base on automation. Selling Cycle, you'll see you're. Going to be much shorter as an example, one of the basic tools we have is a pediatric specimens. PDF's assessment of kind of equivalent doing discovery phase that accustom a- discovery phase of a customer with ten thousand and up extensions or sometimes four, thousand, three thousand and up can take weeks. To weeks, we can do this assessment. In one day, we can fulfill the full discovery faith in one day a process of can date AH, several people a couple of weeks we can do it in one day. All we need is a copy of the configuration data specific. Specific eds. Yet. So try to wait up couple the weeks to price quotes. Project. Based on something you've done manually and take some guestimations rather than taking pediatrics approach, which is part of the basic essence of our tool. We also save part of the Presale, not even a project. We don't need any commitment from the customer, all the boxes for that and having reported a full report of what they have inside the after twenty four hours, and then you can call it much. Less risk with with knocked a lot of things we will. We will pinpoint issues and areas you need to focus on going to cost you more while tell you what else You can do automatic. So this is a very unique approach we have that I think would give is a lot of big actual So. You'll see let's talk about at the other end of the spectrum you've been talking about the impact on the company selling the service and and doing migration work and how how this is sped up and and because more accurate. On the other side, what's the impact on the final user and I'm I'm talking about the actual person that just works at a company where the migration is actually occurring? Okay. I must say I that we know that phone systems in many many organizations large ones can is a mission critical system. And you and you try and you want to do is want to do such migration checked. You wants to make sure that you don't interfere with the daily work so people won't have to pay any toll while you're doing the migration. System is building a way that everything is done of the company can work as usual until they provision the new system and the end user will wake up one day. Haven't you phone on his desk and everything will be working as close as possible depends on the process that the company decided in terms of the business decision, the name but the end result is a the you wake up one day and have a new phone. Now, let's assume the project with takes six eight months one years sometimes even two years while having that the customer doesn't feel anything we. Have Mechanism of dealing with Dell has we don't need to stop freeze the customer systems you can work in update everything. Really we know how to get those Delta than those changes during the project and we also know to create what we call coexist and coexist keys. So when one is migrated, because cannot migrate the whole of Innovation One day. That's not a good way to migration project. You have to migrate people in batches in groups, and you need to make sure all together under backers are are together and the boss, Secretary Moose together and migrated it and when we. I mean provisioned. One rule we can describe can still talk as usual from your phone to those who are working the legacy system. So the impact on the cardinals. And and and the end user is brilliant in the fact that he doesn't have known back. Waking up one day and he has a new phone and you can still call is all his colleagues even using the the legacy system we know how to provide the service to the full extent to the last extension that migrated to the cloud. You know you'll see I. Think this is a huge point and maybe not always well-considered because from what I've heard. Sometimes some of the biggest losses some of the companies out there have his because of a very disappointing migration where the. The organization question gets very frustrated because there's been so much disruption. We. We see that Iraq and we we got a lot of situations where we got in the middle of the in the middle of project and we were asked to help in the middle of the project. We do that from time, but it's a little bit more complicated because we it hasn't been plan from the beginning that's what I said before. We've been to rescue mission, but I have to admit I. Don't like it and I don't think it's it's it's a it's the best way is the best approach and if you are in the middle I'm not sure I wanNA be on a rescue mission I be fair and I think it's much healthier for the invasion for the Parker to out doing it from action planning gets properly and understanding capabilities because it's completely different approach project manually and approaches automatically. So. You'll see I wanNA thank you today for giving us an overview of UNIX and unique play your company and your tool impact this market help people do migration and help help them do the migration and a lot more efficient way we're. Can we learn more? Please check. Check out website novonordisk DOT COM. You can see a lot of material have a lot of material there and more. So I'll appreciate your contact us directly. My vision is a complicated world and this is what we do. This is what we're professional. APP, will be happy to share experience with everybody and Make sure we help you do the best possible migration. Again, very much indeed I know we're going to be doing some additional podcasts. We're going to be drilling down in the near future on on how your product works, and also how specifically works with some of the platforms that need to be migrated out there. But for now. Thanks very much. Thank you very much.
March 27, 2019: Marshal Younger returns to the studio for the first time in over a decade
"The. It's time for wonder excitement and discovery odyssey fans. I'm Bob producer of the adventures in odyssey club. And I'm Jesse editor focus on the family clubhouse magazine. Welcome to the official adventures odyssey podcast later on the podcast. We'll be talking to Marshall younger writer and director of this club adventure between camp and a hard place at first. Here's the latest news. Easter twenty nineteen is less than one month away. Easter's my favorite holiday because of what it means. But I always have a hard time figuring out when it is. Because it changes every year trivia point Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the first day of spring, which occurs on or around March twenty first so depending on the year Easter be celebrated anywhere between March twenty second and April twenty fifth. Okay. Well this year it's on April twenty first and I determined that based on my detailed knowledge of the cycles of the moon. My uncanny understanding of the calendar and my abilities my phone search feature silently while you were talking. Oh, well, if you're looking for some new Easter activities this year, we've got devotion from your favorite odyssey characters some fun journal pages and cards to help you share the love of Jesus with family and friends checkout wit's end dot org slash podcast for links to these free activities and other news. The latest imagine. Nations station book tear in the tunnel is available. Now, this installment finds Beth and Patrick on a train with ABRAHAM LINCOLN heading to his inauguration. But a band of Sassus plans to meet Lincoln in Baltimore and end his presidency before it starts follow all of the adventures in the imagination station Twenty-three tear in the tunnel links to order it are on our website. And now, let's talk to writer director Marshall younger about between camp into hard place to determine where he got his ideas for camp stories and whether he was ever in a hard place during production. I don't think I've anything to add to that. Let's chat. Marshall. It's always good to have you on the program. Well, listen between capita heart place. That's an episode that was inspired by the work of Christian camp and conference association. Some of our ministry alliances provide lots of real life stories the fuel the writers imaginations, others, Billy gives more general thoughts about the tone, the setting so how much direction did you have here? Well, they were great CCC was say sent me a whole bunch of right up on kids come to camp how they approached camp. And then how they left camp. And I was amazed at the differences kids that Canaan that were so shy that nobody Montauk. Anybody do anything now in kids who came in with kind of negative attitude and didn't really really wanna be there because they didn't know anybody or whatever. And then they left, and they were the life of the party, and they had they are the popular and they were having fun that couldn't wait until the next year. They could go to camp again. I was really inspired by the stuff that they sent me. Yeah. There was some of the. Stories made it into our web quest in the club, especially because three C a offer scholarships. As one of the things that they do is to help kids get there who would ordinary be able to go, and they were very inspirational stories and speaking of stories in this episode, there are at least three distinct storylines, so Marshall I know as a writer of fiction that a lot of time these are based on real life. So which of these stories are scenes are based on real life weather things at three CA, Saint you or maybe your own real life experiences. A camp. Well, some of the stories the characters came from things that I'd read from CCA scarlet was not specifically scarlet but kids that were sort of like scarlet that wasn't really that excited about being there. And then they ended up kind of opening opening up that kind of stuff was was based on true life. Really nothing else. It was based on those stories from my life, or from those what I what I really wanted to do was to look at camp kinda from a different angle because you see all the movies and camp stores, even even in odyssey, and what I wanted to do is look at it from the angle of just this one aspect of camp, and that was his competition, then they were all in and out characters react and this competition, and how it changed them. Just being a part of it will your outline didn't have Wyatt as the one who kept rooting up at night. It was a different character named Sean who Sean in what would have. Happened in that storyline. Sean was one of these kids who came in for the first time, it was it was able to go 'cause it's a scholarship that he received and and I set up and just being a kid who has a lot of problems at home. And he does exactly what why it ends up doing. And that is you confide in Wootton. And it keeps them up late at night. What happened was is that the team encouraged me to use our own characters the characters that they on ready. Do it. We always try to do that. It's easier to write for characters. And and we think if the audience likes hearing the same characters because they know them already. So we came to whi- which was perfect switch because why already has these difficulties at home because his his his dad is just a point him. Mrs them, you know, back in the outline why it was dealing with the fear of heights and Wootton use his obsession with ecology to coax him up a climbing wall. So tell us about that early version of that story line, and why it change to the one we have in the final show. Well, the thing for the show is in dealing with hard things and not shying away from hard things challenging things. And so that was going to be why it's thing is that he was dealing with his fear of heights, and he had to do this climbing wall to win when this first team. And so and so he overcomes his fear. Well, we decided cited to change that up to make the hard thing actually wouldn't challenge because he ends up having to stay up late at night with with white because he thinks that there's something wrong which will find out there in part to even though he is tired in the next day. He pays for it. The next day. He still stays with him until two o'clock in the morning. And so it's hard thing. Well, we've got the same thing with with scarlet and and Libya where Livia has to kind of get out of her comfort zone. She used to hanging out with zoey. All week at camp every year. She does that well Connie mix things up and then. And changes their partners. And so they end up having to talk to other people in relate to other people. And so I I like the idea that the people that were changed in. This were the ones who we already knew the odyssey characters not necessarily the ones that come to camp for the first time is that our our characters changed, you know, in a certain way, civil characters in this episode Marshall where your own creations, including Wyatt and Scarlett and alise tell us about the process of creating a character you start with a story, I fit in the characters or do you create the characters and then figure out how to weave a story around them. Well, it varies as a matter of fact, two of these Wyatt and lease they're based on people that I know. And so I had to character. First and Scarlett is actually I came up with with the situation. I thought it'd be twenty to have somebody who comes to campus nothing about it and thinks it's like if games. Yeah. That's that would be funny. But as far as I in at least they're concerned why is based on. And I hope he does listen to this. Why does based on my son? Because my my son he is so funny because he speaks with just the utmost thority about things that he has no idea about he is just so convincing you so sure of himself and yet he has no idea what he's talking about. What I think is is is kinda funny, and I laugh sometimes he gets so that that's why is based on the lease was was based on a girl menu in high school who who had a brother who was testing. I think it was. And and she was just the most compassionate and optimistic in optimistic because she looks at of other. And she said if he can be optimistic I should be optimistic, you know, about about her life, and it was also a little bit of autobiographical because my family did trust your care for a few years. And we did exactly what at least family did. We took a medically fragile. Little children. My wife is a nurse. She's very very good with that stuff. And and so she we bought kids in come at feeding tubes in that kind of stuff, and I ended up having to learn that stuff, and I just it was up as our turn. But but it was just part of what we're doing. That was a very inspirational time. Oh, yeah. It's really cool. How your experiences shape these characters and how you really get to know who they are as you're writing them. And with this episode. You also got to cast these characters. So what specifically do you look for in an actress audition? When it's kids. I look for the delivery more than the voice just because it's so hard to find a really good kids that can act and had a natural delivery. Sometimes that the problem because we need unique voices if we can get a kid who can act who has a unique voice while we have hit the jackpot because even in this show. You can listen and any sometimes the voice of sound kind of the same. And and so to find a unique voice, we we got we gotta look at that. But I always look at delivery and how good they are at reading will for our Spiring writers out there described the three act structure, the first act is is setting up the problem, and and it. You know, the first few pages. And then there gets a point where the climactic moving, and the the story line is changed in a very significant way, which leads you to act to act two bills bills bills to a point where there's a climactic moment at the end of two where everything changes, and then there's act three which is kind of the resolution and also 'climactic moment where the main character has to make decision or something happens to the main character that leads him to decision or whatever I love structure. I I have to have structure to write my shows. And you know, what what helps a lot with honesty is that there are two commercial breaks. We got used to this because we wrote exclusively for radio which had commercial breaks. Well, now, they're on on on the web. And and so two brakes don't seem to make sense. But they do make sense in terms of writing because you have to have a climactic moment right before a commercial break. And so you. And forces you to then come up with a dramatic moment. Give me an example from this show at the end of part one. We have that moment where scarlet falls off the air conditioner in breaks in the window breaks. I didn't have that in the original outline. And so I thought to myself, well, this is gonna be a two parter we've got to have heart one in a connected moment. And so so I added that and I think it was a great addition. 'cause it makes you wanna come back and see what happens we've some people wondering whether scarlet is still with us, actually. Yes. Diners must've done a really great job. Yes. She makes an appearance what she has a little bit difference. All right. Marsha you do a lot of writing. I mean writing just about everything you do see scripts movies videos books short stories, so how long do you write per day and doing for like a certain number of hours a page count. Something else. I'm not that structured and organized. Okay. If I have an empty day where I don't have anything else going on in my life. I will just right. And I'll I'll try to get on a roll if I get momentum. I I can ride all day. And all right. Well into the night gotten to the point now where if I can get on a good roll like that I can finish full script in a day. Most of the time it takes longer than that. But yeah, I I don't bother with page counter anything like that. I just right until my fingers fall off. Ideas. We'll tell you what one of the disadvantages may be of being behind the scenes and being able to see rough drafts is that we'll see something in a rough draft actually doesn't make it all the way to the end of the show when we think, wow, I wonder what that would have been like if the sound designers done their thing one of those in between camping a hard place was an improv contest at camp, featuring Wooten and Connie is judges tell us what would have happened in those scenes and why they didn't make the cut. Well, the thing about doing a camp competition is that everything is so visual the volleyball game, the swimming competition, the balloons, they're very visual, and they had to be described in that kind of stuff. So I wanted one of the competitions to be an improv competition where two people are up on stage. And they're given a Canario by the judges and say, okay act it out, and so that this was going to be part of the of the competition and a lease was going to be paired with with Zoe on stage. And then it was intercut with scenes from with scarlet. And Libya working together. And I thought it was pretty funny because at least was taking it way too far too excited, and she was dominating the scene. Zoe wasn't getting a word edgewise and Scarlett on the other hand was didn't care at all. And she was like, I think her I think her scenario was a mystery and she likes all right away just to get it over with. And I thought it was funny, but it ended up being too long. And so we had to cut it. We ended up needing a third part. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I don't know if they would have been worth that. You know, you directed these episodes to and I think it was the first time you back in the studio for adventures not a c in over ten years. So what was it like coming back in the studio there in California? I cannot tell you how excited I was about getting back into the studio after ten years, I've moved to to Nashville Tennessee, valid I don't live in Colorado or California. And so it was just very very generous of Dave Arnold to say to ask me to to direct three shows that week try me out to California. And I just I loved it. I mean, just getting all the actors again that I hadn't seen some of them for ten years and then getting back in the studio and doing something that I really really love. It was fantastic. And I over prepared always prepare, but I really over prepared for this one. And I write down stuff on every page about how how would like to hear certain lines and ninety five percent of it. I will never verbalize because the actors will get it on their own or I'll decide in the studio that what they're doing is better than what I written down. But I gotta habit to over prepare it just because I'm not a quick thinker on the fly. So I have to make sure I've got a written down in front of me. Well, it's inevitable. But sometimes the sequencer align is funnier on paper than it is when it's actually performed in the studio as good as our actors are as director, how do you decide when to kind of keep trying to make that original idea work, and when you kinda need to change gears and going to different direction. Yeah. You can't come in thinking that every single word is going to be has got to be there. And you can't you can't fall in love with your own words because some of the work, and you never know when that's going to be and sometimes even better is when the actors bring something to it, and they'll add things that make it better. I tell you what I can't tell you. How many times just did that in this show? I think he really enjoyed the whole acting tire thing. Because he really has a mad lives. That were hilarious. We love just in the studio, and that actually brings up this episode's T R q. Totally random question. And this one comes from less theme. So Marshall if you could live the life of Wootton, Connie or wit for one day whose life would you choose do I get to have their brains. I guess you get to be one of them for days at the way that it has Tesla's team. But I think that's the way she meant. I think you're I think it's you living their life. Okay. I would not want to be Connie Laterna Roddick from okay, I love his optimism and his playfulness and stuff, but I think just to be as wise as witness would be nice in for people to kind of come to me with their problems. And know that they're going to get good advice that would be nice because you have chosen wisdom muscial. You will be able to live all three. Just to be loved and accepted in at mired. Like what that would be nice. That's a good answer. Yeah. All right. So here's our final question. Marshall, what is harder about directing is dealing with kind of that crunch of finishing in the window of time that you have or is it getting just the right performance from the actors, or maybe there's another part, that's even more difficult than that. I'm with time. I tried to make best use of the time. When we're in the studio four hours is the time that we're a lot. And that's usually pretty easy to get in there in four hours pulled them, a quick director that keep things moving. And I'm told that actors like that this hardest thing about directing. At least odyssey is concerned if keeping them focused because after having such a good time and they're talking to each other. And and sometimes they have musical instruments. Thinking, and and sometimes it's just say, okay. Can we get back to the scene? Now, you know, and and try not to see me about it. But you say, okay, we need to move along with long and they're good about it. But, but really, it's a constant herding cats time, you have a especially with, you know, Katie just and will those guys they really are great. You know Marshall, we always appreciate having you on the podcast and also getting those little behind the scenes insights from you. So thanks for joining us today. Thank you very much. You can hear between camp into heart place part one in the club right now. Partout debuts April, I know food, no full. And and that's not all that's going on in odyssey this weekend. The new adventures continue if you've wanted to hear more about Jillian jewels. But Connie Wooten or penny you won't want to miss our latest episode because it stars all of them. Let's you're a preview now on the next adventure. Not Assi friendships are strained if buffer true friend. He wouldn't go to that party. Maybe you don't need to be jealous. Silly does a new friend had the answers about being second choice and choose to be happy. Instead, or is she the problem is kind of like me, but I can't force jewels to look up to me instead of Jillian that's next time on adventures odyssey. Much ado about jealousy airs this weekend on the radio and online or you can hear it along with all of album, sixty six in the club on CD and via download check out the links on our website, and that's all for this edition of the official adventures Nazi podcast a presentation of focus on the family. You can join the club at a club dot org. You can check out links to that Easter fund the imagination station books and more at wit's end dot org slash podcast, or you can call us at one eight hundred a family, I'm bomb, and I'm Jesse reminding you that with gun your life every days in adventure.
Craft for a Cause: Saltwater Brewery's Dustin Jeffers
"Hey, guys. My name is Amy Kuhnen and I'm your host for the town hall Rubicon first and only podcast where we share advice for techies for lovers and for penny pinchers as much as I love the sound of my own voice. This broadcast was gonna rely heavily on guests were subject matter experts on everything, ranging from how to get your small business up and running interviews with some of the brains behind your favorite apps and even had a remove garbage from outer space. You never know who's gonna pop up and join me next in studio. So make sure to subscribe to the town hall on I tunes to get our episodes downloaded directly. And if your bosses making you work through launch your commute, it's just too short. You miss something. Awesome. Don't worry. We've got your back. You can check out our blog for recaps reviews in all things townhall. Hey, everybody welcome to a very, I'm gonna, say trendy episode of the town hall. And why is it going to be trendy will because my guest today is. Destined jet verse us ahead of operations for saltwater brewery in he and his team are pairing up sustainability in craft beer just as expertly as they pair their wide range of flavors, and I'm really excited to be joined, be a Skype by true brew master. So Dustin, thank you so much for being here this early morning me so summers beginning obviously to die down. We're transitioning to the end of the year, but you know the beauty of beer is that it's a year round kind of thing. Did you know that September twenty as is national, drink a beer day twenty seven is crush Candan. So we're doing a little Instagram competition on whoever can crush fans in recycle all that win a free case that I love that in that spirit, let's get started. Let's talk obviously a lot out beer a lot about sustainability in a lot about you. So let's figure from the top end, let's get to know each other. Just a little bit better. Doesn't walk me through your. Professional personal time line. And I mean, how did you get to brewing beer with? You know, purpose. So I'm a regionally from south jersey moved to south Florida around seven years ago. So in south jersey, it's really close to Philadelphia, which is one of the year capitals of the world. We have awesome beer ours, a lot of res distribute there because they're such a good beer culture. So from young age instead of jerk thing like bud, w-we, all that stuff I got into crappier earlier private. Most people also along my uncle's home-brewed audibles really into craft beer and couple of cousins home-brewed. So I started hungering. So during undergrad, I went to university of Connecticut as my senior year. I lived right down the street from the group of their will magic group, so got into craft beer more, got my roommate into it. He's actually now opening up Bree in Connecticut. Both of us now has theories, so I went to undergrad. I each language pathology and audiology. So nothing that had to do with fear. I moved down to move down to south Florida around, yes, seven years ago for grad school for speech pathology ends. My cousin had art studio and we were hovering in the art studio and Lee who owns the barn that the Burris in Canaan for him to do a big for lease sign on the side of the bird because they were leasing the building. It used to be antique furniture store. They we and his family are tying start talking about doing something interesting in the barn and his son, Chris, who's our president us in San Diego right during the big boom of temporaries out there. So it all kinds of cells place at the right time. I wrote a business plan leave back to south Florida. I graduated do my master's, but didn't really do anything speech. I started as assistant burder heated all our artwork, the front bow. He worked for. Distributor. So he had the distribution aspect and he started, we got a brew master has Bary for sixteen years, and we started very everyone kind of dropped everything and started it up. And that was almost five years ago now and December. We have our five year anniversary. I think Fanta Bill before we tackle Alabi. Awesome strides that you guys are making also in the fight for conservation. I do wanna stay in the same lane in. I still wanna talk a little bit about beer because I've always been super curious in there such a large surgeon, you know, crap raise up all over the country. So like coming up with a recipe coming up with a flavor name, cannon, bottle design. How do you guys like embrace the creative process around craft beer? Because it really is like a true eight z art form yet. So when we were discussing the very most of the guys are like second third generation Floridians so they grow up. By the ocean need being south jersey rear the house CIO used to LBL time. So I also refined the Shen love boats fishing. They were all surfers so coming up with burry. We are also very passionate about the ocean, and he KO's we did spend time at the beach on boobs surfing, fishing. We saw the problem kind of the destruction as happening to the ocean, so call. So saltwater was kind of basis in the whole entire business, which then led to our beer names and what we wanted to. So we minded do something to give back to the ocean and a good way to kind of spread the message help with charities plus educate is we thought would be revere. So when you give people beer, there are more likely to listen to you or come to an event if they're gonna get your. So that was kind of a whole concepts of theirs. Work with charities work with organizations, try to educate people on the other shin and Holden into our education and territories. VM view. So all are your names, all the artwork has to do with the ocean. So our number one brand is from unreal zyppah. So he did a painting of a Monte hitting Lor. We came up with the beer netting, and the painting turned into the candidate turned into the t shirts that correspond to the beer turned into taxes, advertising, all that stuff. So it starts with a ocean themes. Ear name goes to painting and then does to everything else. What's your favorite? My favorite year, I love barley wines. There's a whole movement, but barley wines, life on the craft beer, world's Alec my gear solid started with their like big doozie, high alcohol beers, better more multi side. We finally made one ear and it's called near law, Seattle. So mayor Saunders dais grain. Ends sticking with the whole ocean theme. It's a English brain. So Bossier autre ended up in Safra. That's my favorite, but our core beer whereabouts come out with our third Corbiere called passionate. So like golden ale, four point, two percent that we permit with real passion food. So I've been drinking allow that lately. You can drink a couple. It's only four point, two percent, so it will hurt too bad guy. Listeners are probably wondering, you know what saltwater brewery in Rubicon really having common and our connection is obviously made through the share passion of environmental sustainability. Numerous it saltwater much get Rubicon are implementing a pretty innovative solution help with, you know the fight against those pollution. So walk me through the marquee thing. Revise the EKO six pack, rain thing that picked up all the press all the stuff that's led to the community outreach. A lot of it is around the Ekos. Six pack writing. So what does that mean? Yeah. So that we got to that point by are sticking to our mission statement. So working with the charities we start off working CCA surfrider an ocean foundation. And if they had vents, we donate beer person Thursday at every month that the burry we have charity night. So we'll do raffles. And then Percy's of our tops go-slow charity size. We were doing those kind of more challenges. Organizations reached out to us in our fire reach spread further and further, and we start getting more notoriety as where the Burri that helps with Jared Senate song has any idea about that too. We can help out as much as we can. So we partnered with nother agency called we believers and co design the bodyg- rateable Sixpack grin. So early on in brewery, we decided that we wanted to package in cans since. We are in south Florida, and with our brands, we sponsor fishing tournaments. We beach cleanups. There's a lot of pools out here. We also do fish, so our beers on boats, so grass bottles wasn't the best option for us. So we wanna use aluminum. So wherever we were, we have to worry about the Knicks you with hands is a must you doing a cardboard like twelve pack fifteen pack box, mostly every can was packaged in plastic. So when we first started us pack tech, which is a great company, they do ninety percent recycled plastic as their it. That was the best thing we had out there at that time with this could vulne of six packing. We needed something fibrous to hold together the beers. So every time we brew we have hundreds of pounds of spank grain that's left to right now. We spend send all that grain to cows as feed. So farmer. Fix it up pushes now and the cows eat it up. They love it. It's kind of like a great snack them. So green is fibrous. So we use the spent grain and that's the basis of the grade while Sixpack. So it's all spent grain from the green process views for six pack older. So what would happen to the ring when it would inevitably end up in the ocean, it would fire degrade dissolve or you know, the fish journals. So we don't want people to just throw these in the ocean, throw it on the grounds like you can throw them out as normal and they would biodegrade Zona spent grain, so stuff will eat down, like all microorganisms will break it down and it will be used as food if it does end up in the ocean. After about ninety two hundred twenty days, it's gonna be fully dissolved in two tiny little ring particles. If something eats before then is not gonna harm them. We kind of like saying it's like. Giving your kids sour patch. Kids started Legos is not necessarily healthy or Tristesse for whatever's eating it, but also isn't partial to that. It's grain. There's not law sugar left in because most reporting during the process, a lot of proteins we pull out. So it's kind of just like really Bland's oatmeal. Yes. So it's not harmful. Yeah, we don't. Aren't you? Like we don't think people are go out our way to try. Easy sense tastes great, but there's no plastic where hundred percent plastic free as of July and it's a much better alternatives that also holds up. We did a lot of testing with this. So I think it's been about two years since that first Byrol video came out and since getting TV elite explain it a little bit. Yeah. So the video was the private mose visualize like the scene that brings up is turtle going in eating the ring, which was real. That wasn't Photoshop, took a bite out of it wasn't harms. So the video was released on Facebook. We just kind of put it out there because we thought it was cool to show people what we're trying to work on and at blew up on us. The had notions of phone calls. I think. It was something like five million views on the first day or I two days right now we just got new numbers in. I think it's twenty eight point, three billion global impressions since that video has been released. It was crazy. We felt people thought it'd be cool and about it. It definitely raised more wariness than we thought and really happy about it. But if you do go solider, Sixpack grin, it's the first thing that pops up. Check out the video. How would be remixed as Representative of you know Rubicon if I didn't take the opportunity to ask you about some waste prevention and conservation efforts in the community. How do you guys educate that community about what you're doing in the round of conservation recycling, all that? How do you get the word out too? So it's really with that base. So we don't spend a lot of money on marketing which allow agrees. With stew advertisements, stuff like that, all that money that we would use that used to events in charities in organizations. So I third Thursday night at the brewery is one way we'll have different organizations come in. They can talk to people about what they're working on, educate them on different environmental issues. We try to go out to events. So any event fat is also will donate beer to the charities in can raise money that like it also brings more people in figure like I, I go to the stock, there's a free beer in it for me. I kind of draws people in their drinking, a beer in the learn something as well. Different beach cleanups. We try support anyone doing beach. Cleanup will advertise on our Facebook. Instagram will go out as much as we can do doing talks since the six pack ring as. Will not be gone by to do talk at different occasions in just kind of spreading the word that when this came out, we are small brewery were about two thousand three thousand barrels, so small company like us and try to innovate something, and it made a big impact than really anyone can. It's really about sticking to the values of your company, what you set out to do. I think also another located downright connects a community that's embracing sustainability in his kind of leading the charge on a lot of the beach stuff as well. But if you're beer isn't available in someone's area, what do you think through your experience through some of the education, what something that someone can do locally and easily to, you know, hop on board in fight the good fight to help preserve our ocean? Yeah, I think one of the things is trying to do something small at first. So my wife and I v is gone on the bandwagon of plastic bag. So we have a bunching those reasonable took bags. So going to grocery store, we have some in our car, some both of our cars events, some in the house in case we forget some. We always on backups and we started with that and is us not accepting plastic bags, mortga cure everything, of course not, but it's a start. And when you do something like that, it's pretty like noticeable when I'm at the grocery store, we're using the bags like the cashier sees it. The bag sees it the person in back of the line Caesar. And if you get one of those guys to hop on board and do the same thing than that kind of spreads it out. And then maybe when they use it, they'll get one person to do, and it's a small, easy thing. If you go CBS and you have to get medicine, it's one row bottle by tell them you don't need a plastic bag. You can carry that yourself. If you go to get a drink somewhere like don't put it in plastic bag or. Or use the reasonable bags to starting off small. We started since then we now have the new. We're trying to not use any plastics Giles. When we go out, we astronaut straw. We have be reusable straws like they're in her purse in my car, say, start small and an add something. Once you have one thing kind of going on and it's part of your routine at something else too. And if you get a plastic straw, like don't freak out on the server, but it's not gonna be the world, but kinda educate them, say like I want a straw and your next refill. She won't bring the straw or won't thing straw, so start small, do what you don't freak out. It's straight your usable bag at the grocery store, like kind make it just part of your life. And as you keep doing more and more things. Yeah. We'll help out. You'll notice other things in your life. Like when I buy apples now I don't use those plastic bags, but all through, I put the apples into my cart and then within in the reusable bag, bring him home. So that's another plastic. I'm trying to get out one by one just knows more things as you're getting more and more plastic out. You'll notice more things using metal bottles faucet bottles. He also save yourself around on buying cases of classic bottles. If you have a reusable medal one, bring everywhere. Now, I think you're absolutely right night listening to you even kind of quaint it to like like weight loss journey. You know, these little Jays will obviously ten acres show your I know we had a record early this morning because you're going somewhere pretty cool today. Right? Aren't you? Isn't there festival this weekend? Yes, we couple. Fessel. So I just came from fear fest during that week is like Thursday through Saturday. So being down the keys, there are a lot of places that are starting to jump on the plastic bandwagon or the plastic banning. So stone crabs are great accounts their now classic straw free. So they've moved to paper straws metal stars. If you do to go bags, they have like the plant based bags and a bunch more accounts are starring q. do that down the keys there on Lind's. So they're surrounded by water. So it's cool seeing that those two weeks ago last week ends your fess neuro Landau, even Orlando's in the middle of the state. There's a couple restaurants center. Doing that same thing, banning plastic bags. 'cause all the drains, the water ends up in the ocean eventually. So just because that giant plastic bag may not be there if that's broken down and then there's all these micro plastic that will eventually lead to the ocean, and they're almost even harder to get rid of a giant plastic baller plastic bag hundred percent, simple foreign let you down. I let you get back to brewing. I wanted to play a quick little game with you. I wanted to ask you a couple of questions. You know. I think it's really cool after we toss the scene ability story to kind of focus more on you and get to know you better. Someone ask you ten really random kinda wear questions. Just hit me with the first thing that comes to mind. So if you're not drinking beer, what's in your Cup? Alcohol lies that usually rum Kershaw used to be a pirate, which even more the reason on this whole ocean conservation thing. And it's not a rump drink than it's actually border a lot of water out from south jersey star, say water, Philadelphia. What was your very first concert? I concert was Chicago in Holland. It's. The the used to be tweeter center vanden. So all notes, right outside Phillies. Awesome says whether from if you could be any sea creature, what would you be NY probably see turtle. I think they're also we have Gumbo limbo nature center right down the road in Boca, bring my some air, try to once a week and they rehabilitate giant sea turtles. I think they're very, who they're relaxed. They live very long life and only I think is Ross one thousand live to adulthood just because of the mission, like the journey they have to go through when they hatch. The go out into the sea swim couple three or four miles offshore it onto the seaweed hatch. They chill there for two, three years. Hopefully don't get eaten by fish, and then they just along the rest of their lives of their pretty cool or sharp. Just a. Tough messes within. Probably will last person that you texted my was what song is on Pete for you right now from ably buffet songs as corneas. It sounds. I definitely sit into that whole parrot head h. e. music sandwich, Brian, south, Florida, cooling, all that stuff. I've been paranoid since before is even moved down here. I think I've been to twelve Buffa concerts and still have never been inside one just hardy on the outside listens. When you were little, what did you wanna be when you grow up? I wanna be a teacher, so has the fat, and that's all I did. My masters in speech pathology. I wanna be each therapist schools teacher. If you were to name a beer after your life, what would you call it? A whole a good one. We call. It's the, I don't know. That's a really question and parenting. One. One. Our heads not to be sliver parenthood. I like dear. I should like free. So what is a must order at your favorite food truck? And I ask you this because I know you guys partner with them all bunch. Yes, we can't. Where we're at zoning wise, we'll stay manufacturing. So we have trucks here every night and wonder, trucks has this convert a Rafer sort of thing. That's avocado. Shredded chicken mayo. It's like that chicken salad in the slight baked tortilla. It's awesome. So I get every time. What is one thing on your bucket list go to Belgium. You all had Trappist breweries out there in Lambeth bruise, just two full on Belgium, your trip and lafley, what is success mean to you? So success knee is being comfortable providing for your family. So they'll have to worry too much. Leaving the world better than where you left, especially. I'm definitely in that now. My son's a year and a half an end. We just announced that my wife and I are pregnant again. So with another baby boy. So very family oriented right now leaving everything that is my kids and we're trying to that with environmental reasons and then, yeah, just being comfortable not, but then worry about stuff that's you need the big mansion or anything. Just softball. Rice percent agree before we end, what is next for salt water? You know, how do you guys see yourselves continuing to reach exceed the goal of, you know, I think it's on your website. Maintaining the world's greatest wonder is the mission, and where can everybody find you find more information. Let's plug saltwater in some of the cool stuff you guys have going on. Yeah, we're working on a couple of things, so we just got a brand new tank. For outside, we built as much as we can inside the barn. Then we've reached our capacity of how much beer we can produce you. So we're adding war from tation tanks outside. I won gone stalled last week, fully ready were tested out next week, and we're going to add some more. So we'll hopefully increase our production by about one hundred fifty, three percent. So with that, we can spread our beer more places, try to help out more areas with Benson organizations of different charities. So that's the person redoing. The second is hopefully by January this year will come out with passion pit in cans for distribution, and with the extra tanks face will be able to finally at another beer where on yet, we're kind on a really great upslope Vos production so we can produce a lot more beer rash year ninety. Two percent of our production was our PA. So it's away from some other more fun ears could produce. So, yeah, new tanks, more beers were gonna start working on working with restaurants, bars in different areas, and try to really push this plastic straw ban try to get them to use different bowed agreeable boxes for to go instead of doing to go back to the plant base bags. So I've couple ideas hepler organizations at work with and kind of more restaurant managers in with like a free pint of beer and have many trade shows, different vendors. They can buy stuff from that would be a plastic alternative sets my goals for next shoes. Try those going in our hometown first and then different areas we should be to partnering with a restaurant and also charity in those going hospital. Second rotation in the seizure, we're working on that right now that we could have a fumble height system. Do some more. Terminal beers on amazing. You guys have so much going on right now and it's all tied back to, you know, the mission just like our tub end ways to save the ocean in, like you said to leave the planet just a little bit better than when you got your Dustin. Thank you so much coming on this morning. Awesome. Cheers. 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Podcast: Automation Can Deliver Huge Value Managing Telecom Expenses
"This is green and on the publisher. Telecom reseller and thank you for joining us on the continuing telecom. Reseller podcast series with cloud age solutions today I'm with God Norberg Cmo out cloud age solutions. Thanks for joining me today. Thanks luck. Doug I appreciate you having me on your podcast. So for those who haven't heard about cloudy twitter's clinic solutions. Your cloud solutions is a SAS platform provider that basically he's focuses on kind of automating and taking the chaos Outta. Telecom expenses We helped manage those cloudy eight obsessed platform. I've run marketing cloud solutions. I've got a broad background in the telecom space, and a bunch of other verticals largely, it's small companies, and so you know I've been I've been a product guy, most of my career and so I've always found like one of the benefits of working mostly small and Kinda. Growing companies is that you get to learn a lot about a lot of different industries and a lot of different roles. I think it's really helped. grow my career and also companies I've been at you. Know 'cause. I bring different perspectives So, there's always something a little bit different. I I I've over my career. It's actually been. I've enjoyed being different markets so that you kind of learn something different it helps you grow and I think you do pay things from those markets out, and it's helped me. Develop! So did they? Is is very accessible and fairly easy to provide on a wide scale. Well, having data's good, it seems like it is easy to become overwhelmed. It can become overwhelming. Yeah that's and it's it's funny. It's you know I. Think over the course of my career. You know a lot of times. It was really hard to get data. Now it's so easy to get data. Would, argue that like having no data's that having data. But I think the reality of it is that we get so much data. We forget what we're really looking for is information. and. I think about things today. You know if I kind of tie it back to bills, right You know you look at something like your health insurance e be. You know how crazy hard it is to figure out like if you're paying the right amount, I I recently had a quick trip to the emergency room. And you know I had like three different bills for something seemingly minor. You know and I couldn't remember like. Why was getting bill? What the charges were! The charges really describe what was going on. And so like you know you think about that, you go. Yes, I had locked of data right? I had three different filled at different lineup numbers. But like trying to figure out what was the information I needed? And so, you know some of them. Over the course of my career, certainly in the telecom space, some of the more troublesome bills have been telecom bills particularly. You know certainly in your home bill. That's hard enough to determine, but if you're a big enterprise and you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a month on telecom. The. Telecom, bills can take very simple things and kind of turned it into chaos, right? It's either you find in one case. You may have some companies that provide so much data that you can't figure out what it is. And you, get some of the newer people telecom, and that there's almost too little data, and so you have to make kinda heads or tails of that. you know they just take the inherent. Aspect of it especially in the B. Two B. Market. If you're a company, you're buying services whether it's from. Von Deger at and T. or eight by eight or ringcentral right. They all have different names for the things. They all different ways to organize their data. They all come in slightly different formats, and so like it's really easy to get overwhelmed with data you know and. Try You. Know figure out what you're trying to do with it. You know I think everyone who's listening can relate to especially the telecom dole whether you're the person at the company who actually receives those invoices, and of course on a personal level I've always said you need a degree in philosophy ended engineering discern. What's on your eighteen bill So you know? Why do you think? They make it so hard. I have a feeling a lot of people feel it's. It's a conspiracy to make me pay more, but is that really true? That's that's a great question. It's You you. You hope that they're not making it so hard. But I. Think you know especially in telecom right? There's a Lotta legacy billing systems right and if you've been around long enough like I have like you remember the old days of the Arbox ilects long distance providers. and they all have their old. You know they're all individual billing systems, and then as they've merged up through the years to become part of whether it's att or Verizon. A lot of those legacy systems are either still in place for have migrated over. You know those some of those billing systems were built years and years years ago, so I think there's this there is element of there are legacy billing systems that really work designed. You know kind of one right, and that's the running one of the ring. People say hey, do you support you know translating at and T. bills well. They're no one at and T. Bill. There's you know there's many of because of all the different billing systems that they have I think the other thing that you see. Is that the data on the invoices? Is. It can be used for analysis, but it wasn't designed for analysis, and so what you may find is that there's unclear data or missing data you know. The billing system was designed to kind of list. The items out and say here's what you pay. But it may not be put in such a way that you could analyze it later. Because a lot of those buildings systems were designed when people were probably analyzing it not as often so you know I. It's funny, because like at the end of the day you just WanNa look at your bill. Verify that it's what's on. It is what you've actually ordered. And then you want to pay for it right and you've got all the data right? How hard can it be but as it turns out in Telecom? Space. It is. It's hard. You know and I think we're. You know we're getting better at it. That's really interesting, because it seems like there's a gap between. What you're describing into the data that's available and there's a lot of data and you know in these bills. They sure don't hold back. There seems to be almost more data than you need. But that's the problem right? What is the data that I need so? Is there any movement to close? This gap. That I think we can see. Yeah there there definitely is a gap and I think because. People are spending more on telecom you know over the last x number of years, and and it's only increasing with covid nineteen, and you know people working from home, and there's lots of additional services almost a bigger. Focus on understanding all that data. Because, you know so I think. Would it be great like you know if you're working today and you're into building department. You're in finance. It'd be awesome if you just got your telecom bill. And it came in, and it just had a big checkmark that said it was good, or there was a big x mark that was poor. You know I think the analogy I always I always find this an interesting analogy. Is that in the movie gladiator? When Cova you know he's out in the ring and he has his thumb. You know the thumb up or thumbs down, like I, kind of picture you know, the bill comes into the. You know the bill, or is it a bad bill? But that's you know it'd be better to like not just if it was good bad bill, but you. You had a roadmap as to. Why like if flag things that? I think are not there. It's like you don't have to do research right? 'cause like at some level like. You almost have to really understand a lot more about the telecom space to pay the bill then like just even your local cable bill right So you don't WanNa have to think about it and spent all this extra time and I think there are a lot of times enterprises. Feel like they're playing. Where's Waldo when they're trying to audit their invoices right? They're looking through pages trying to find things you're trying to sink things up. You know within one place on one build versus and other. And I think we're we're starting to see the movement is in. You know a lot of evolving on technology whether it's machine learning like M., l., or artificial intelligence, a I I think are now starting to evolve to the point where that could be used automate a lot of the data. That's there and I. think that's a really encouraging sign. in the is that this automation could be used to take things and kind of automated, so that makes it easier to start. Turning data into information and also started use checks to to verify that things right or wrong, so you know the the problem, you're describing an especially in in the world. A lot of our readers live in if you're an end user. An it manager UC manager large enterprise, so someone see a lot of a division of Labor in the company and you know there's the sort of so-called routine billing from routine vendors, so it never red flags, and we've probably all experienced in all sorts of businesses, all of a sudden discovering after months or maybe even years. You know there's some product or service like no one's using it. No one knows it's there. We're paying for it and the folks in accounting. It never gets flag because they've always seen it and it's like we've all gone to sleep, so my question is what's the difference between automation and the sort of automatic pilot that you know sometimes occurs and companies. that's a good. That's a great question and You know it's funny. I was I. was I actually the or something? Even be before I start to answer is i. was thinking the Other Day i? Pay My own home bills online right and every time. I pay my bills online, right? They always asked me they go. Hey, you wanna do an automatic reaction every month. Let you can do that. And you know and I. It's Yes, it'd be a convenience, because in most cases it's retained. But like I recently had an issue with one of my American Express bills, and then I had another one with my Verizon Bill. And so like if I had done that. I, almost I get lazy about. Checking the bills I just because it is, it's routine bill. And so I think you do see that in the enterprise in the sense that. you know the person who's paying the bill and finance? isn't a telecom expert. They like you say it becomes a routine bill they paid. It looks about right, so they kind of out of habit will do that especially if it's been in certain parameters. And I think that's. The the same with automation is and I. Think this is one of the reasons why people have hesitated to go to automation is they're afraid they lose control. And they don't WanNa, take something that is already prone to being overlooked. And then making even be overlooked even more and so. As, companies start to look at automation I think. This is a broader question. Even outside of you know paying invoices. Is. You WanNa have things automated, but you still need to have some semblance of interaction with alcohol. Call it a subject matter, expert or someone who's looking at it, so you almost want to err on the side. Of alerting rather than automatically doing something, and so it's it's really understanding your process and so I know like say in the the the invoice space. You may want to have something that says hey. You know within ten percent the previous bill. Maybe you alerted rather than pay it. You know, and you queue it all up so that you can look at it and go. Okay, you know even though that's under ten percents. It's nine percent, but still should because it's never been different, right. So you WanNa have that interaction a little bit. And what we're, the automation can help is getting it to that point right, so if gathering the proper data and doing the proper checks and you still want final set of is because it's still save an enormous amount of time. And and but you're right. I think the. I think you truly autonomous legs. Zero touches is really I think not a reality, but it's also not practical because you almost. Have potentially just as many mistakes the other way if things are built properly so I, you know I. do think that of it of thinking about it balancing off trade-offs. Cure! You still have some interaction to do this. But focus the automation on a lot of heavy lifting to get it to the decision point. All right so if we can overcome the issues and and objections to automation. How do you start nation and isn't that a daunting task for the state of Heart? Yeah I. It's you know it is one of the things it's funny, because like you think about the terms, and it's called machine, learning and artificial intelligence, and you know that ended up itself like. To a nontechnical person would be kinda daunting. You're like what am I getting myself into is some sort of science experiment. But it really isn't you know. The technology certainly has evolved to a point where it can. Well I. Think it's daunting. I think a lot of these things and I think sometimes. This is a human nature thing, but like you gotta think of. It is a journey right? You need to sit and go I'm going to solve this entire thing. And I'm not going to be happy unless I do the whole thing, but like you gotta think of it is in manageable steps and phases like you know you have to start somewhere and start chipping away at it and know that you're going to be on this journey for a while. And so like I think about it and this is. True of a lot of things, but I think specifically space. Right the first step is you gotta get good data and I think that's one of the issues. A lot of the automation kind of assumes that you have good data, you know or you know there's automation that will help you. Get your data, but I think they're people think the automation should have data, and sometimes they overlook the fact that their data may be kinda dirty. It may be incomplete. It may not be standardized right, so you need to Kinda make heads or tails of the data base clean. You want to normalize it so that you get the data that could be analyzed Kinda, going forward. like all you know an example. What a one of my one of my previous jobs! I worked in the trucking space. And we had service repair software for long distance. Heavy duty trucks right, and so we have this system which helped them kind of manage that workflow and they. You know all in a lot of dealerships what they would have was. They'd have this catalogue of pre-programme repair steps that said okay. I'm going to repair the front brakes of this particular although truck. But the guy at the counter would just type in a random one and just say repair breaks. Right, so you lost all that detail than the next guy in the counter type differently. So now as you're rolling all that data up the data's inconsistent, you can't you have to do some cleansing of it to get it done? And you see this across lots of different parts of data so I think the first step is to make sure you know that you're getting your data, and you have a way to kind of automatically. Make sure it's good clean. And I think the next step you can take is. The basic checking right again. Not Everything has to be so complex right so if I think about A. Telecom Bill. I, just take the first step is go you know. Are All the details charges when you add them up because it. Add Up to the total charges on the page and it's crazy like there are times like it doesn't match you know we. We find those things in the business that we're in all the time. So it's crazy. you know it's. Different, my Amex I was talking about previously the other day. I had a credit and talking to the American Express Guy, and he says hey I see the credit. It was posted on this date. He goes when you go onto the portal. Can't you see it? I said no, I can't. Credit there and he says well. Let me share your screen and I'll look at it, and he looked out and he goes. It's not there. He goes, but it's on my screen. Why is that well you know? Why can that be? And that's you know so those types of things that you you WANNA. Make sure that you catch. that. If something doesn't quite add up, you know you, you Kinda. Catch those and those kind of easy, you know. Call them singles. You know just knocked those out. And, then I think you can then evolve into. Automating the things that are very specific to your situation, and and that may take time to do. you know again in the telecom space? Am I getting charged. You know if I have on a contract on buying a MP circuit or Gigi Ethernet circuit you know is the rate on being charged on the bill. What have in my contract, right? That's a very easy thing to automate because you can have a pull the rate from the bill. You have a table. That has all your rates from your contracts. You compare you highlight things that are different right so you then you can kind of build those for all your different services. Be Able to look at locations, and so you can start to build those rules out. And I think over time what you find is. The automation takes care of a lot of just the ugly time. Consuming work, right? You still want to like. I mentioned earlier. You still want to have that. Interaction that intelligence that kind of really look at it and understand why you want to get all the heavy lifting done ahead of time. You know. Is it possible to 'cause you're you're talking about your American Express statement I bet everyone was thing is had this experience. The you know latent re AOL church. That keeps on showing up on your statement that you sort of ignore and you're another went to service a recurring charge on an invoice. It automatically gets paid. That is so smaller subtle. It's sort of. Gets North, can you? Isn't this fence train or rule the automation to start swaggie stuff that's routine or sort of challenge should and then kind of make it come to someone's attention. Yeah. Actually that's A. that's a great question. so one way you can do it. Is and that one way just what you said is hey, you know this this bill you know. This charge hasn't changed in over a year. Right and we know that right. You just sent a rule that says hey. We should check our rates every year right? Sure that you know you know. Everything goes on a year or two year schedule So you have that the other thing you can do. And, this is the best practice thing is separately. You should have inventory of what what you what you have you know. I know I have ordered these services for these locations I know of ordered the Circus I! Know ordered these routers whatever it is and so Another check you can do is say are all the things coming in my envoys? Can I match them to something in my inventory? And, so we do that in our software where we say hey, here comes the circuit. It's on this bill for this account number do I have a matching item and inventory and if I don't I flag that and say hey, here's a charge on a bill I. Don't have it inventory. Go. Check this out like. Did you forget to add it? did it get disconnected? And you and the building is still showing up right? Everybody is kind of happy before you know you're disconnected. A service and the service is never stops billing, and it takes. You know multiple phone calls. So. So I think you're right and that's where it is I, think you? You start to set rules like that to catch and I think you you put. It really well was like the catch the. the autopilot type errors like make sure that you automatically check something consistently enough so that you don't get caught in that, you know of just paying bills because there are comments. Do you know the. Automation of cool it sounds good. You know you're starting to tell us a little bit. How could be implemented implemented? How else is automation important of this process? Yeah, you know it's. It's you know the one thing that we're seeing, and it's you know. It is cool I actually if you, if you tell the you know your it team that you're going to start doing some machine learning their bill. They're probably really excited to do because they can start to see things. But I think really what ends up happening is like you really refocusing your resources right and I see this quote and it was for a different industry. But the guy I think hit right on, and he says you know when you automate, you can use your staff more creativity. You know so if you take someone and they're spending three hours a day, binding through data just getting to the point. where, they can start using it right. That's three eight to their day that they're not really being truly productive, and so a lot of companies are starting to look at this and say. You know. You know I'd much rather have everything. Get prepared for my team. Especially in the knowledge worker space I want my knowledge workers not grinding through data I want them applying their knowledge to the data to support our customers or do something else and so. You know we see that in our business, you know part of our business is. Receiving and translating telecom voices, and standardizing all that data and a lot of our customers say that they go. We don't want to spend the manual effort. We get a standard data feed from you guys so bye. Guys can focus on truly analyzing the bills in trying to find mistakes and doing the things that add value to their customers. So I think that's the real thing, and that's you know and I think a business perspective, especially, just things like m. l. and a are being sold kinda through business cases within a company. That's really kind of what it comes down to is to say. Hey, we've got a set amount of resources. There's this tax of kind of manual work that we can automate. And you don't just save time, but you actually improve the quality right, because now you. You're doing things very programmatic basis, and you don't have human error. You know if you're a human person and you're sitting in front of a bill and you're translating. Paper bills into a spreadsheet and copying data over you get copy and paste errors. You just get inconsistencies and so. You're not only say prime, but you get better quality. And, so that's kind of where you know so I 'cause I think of the enterprises I think you're able to focus people better serving business by getting rid of manual tasks. I think that same thing is true. You know if you're a consultant or if you're a channel partner. Right you can automate a lot of these things so that you're not spending time watching extratime. Questions Right. You have the date at your fingertips. You can solve those problems quicker, and you're able to service your customers quicker the rather than solving billing problems and all those other things. You're being more proactive. Your being a consultant to them, saying Hey I think you can do things better, you know, and so I think they serve their customers general everybody serves their customers better and more creatively if they can get rid of some of this taxing overhead work. So what's your approach on? What does crowd age? Age View on this. And how are you tackling this? So yeah, so. Know Cloud ages been doing this for fifteen plus years in some form or another specifically the telecom invoice base. You. Know and you really. Our business is unraveling the chaos of telecom bills through automation right? We've been building automation you a Lotta this over loud these hurdles for many years. And the first step and I of mentioned it. The previous question is. The first thing we did was we all made many of the tasks. In terms of receiving invoices and translating invoices right, so the key is you want to get good data right, and so we have an engine that essentially goes out and and collects free for our customers. The telecom invoices in all kinds of formats whether it's an. Eight eleven format or PDF format or even paper we take care of all that collection, and then we run it through our engine, which essentially standardizes that into a single format, so we take all those discrepancies between the bills and the way the providers do it across providers by naming and all that other stuff, and we make it one set of data, and it's called our union bill forbath, so you know so that first step. That's a big step you know, so. You got good data, so check Craig. We can move on to the next step. Then, we have tools built that kind of automate checking this data. Right, and today we automate running it through a variety of basic checks and I mentioned earlier. You know making sure the. Face pages show up. You know as as some as the same as all the details. is it. Is it any more or less than what it was the previous month and you can program those things in. we compare inventory. So. We do an inventory. Check for every bill as it's loaded to kind of do that. We do those basic checks. And then we can do Geo Coding so we've automated the ability to set of rules, so the accounting department doesn't have to look at you. Know X number of line items on bill and do all their specific Geo coding, so we automate that aspect of it. And that's really key. You know if you're getting the same bill every month, and you have the same circuits on it. That's repetitive tasks that could clearly be automated, so we've taken a lot of that kind of basic blocking and tackling an automated that. So everything runs through very smoothly. But still providing kind of the alerting to things, and so if there are discrepancies, we alert so that you can kind of take care of it. And then something new. We have coming up. We've advanced that a little further. Is We've added some automation for and for. Right now we're calling configure, Bill Rate Audit, and so for example you may WanNa. Go ahead, look and say. I want to do a rate audit on all my MP L. S. circuits and so I write A. That, says. Hey, you know here on my verizon MP. L. S. circuits, I'M GONNA. Look for this description. I'm going to compare it to the contract rate and NFL. Here's the at and T.. Here's how they describe it. I'm GONNA contrary to the contract rate. You create this rule and every time that employees comes in. That rule and I can basically verify with the touch of a button or automatically whether all my empty last circuits are coming in counted for and I'm being charged the right amount. It's like do that across any number of services that we built the flexibility so that you can create custom rules to be able to look for certain things as you WANNA. Do it based on your your business and so. We kinda see this automation as being one of the more important things. We've done kind the the first two steps that Kinda. Get to you know a good level, and now we're starting to add in some of that customization that allows customers based on their service mix. You know where their business where things are looking for. They can start to do those things on their own. Well, I, WanNa, thank you for joining me today. And giving us an interesting overview of any really important issue, billing the problems with filling the problems with falling asleep about billing, and then how automation can tackle this and you guys are looking at this is well. We're more about cloudy solutions. Sure thanks Doug, it was awesome. Being on the podcast is always listeners can go to our website. WWW cloud solutions dot com where they can send an email to info at cloudy. SOLUTIONS DOT COM and they can learn more about cloud solutions and our GPS cloud, sast platform offering. just a little bit of promotion as well we had two different items through the cloud communications alliance, which has a partnership with telecom reseller We did a virtual meeting on June tenth. and that's listed on the CCA website for replay that was on fraud and we actually just did one yesterday. with cloud communications alliance on voice optimization on how you can optimize voice costs in the voice network We recorded that yesterday that should being posted up to the CCA website of well. Well I hope everyone goes and looks and takes care. Takes advantages, those resources, and for now. Thanks again for joining me today. Thanks to have a great day.
Podcasting in Bengaluru (Bangalore), India with Vishnu from the Writer and Geek Podcast
"What I'm seeing a lot happening these days is just imitating these DOPP podcasters. So we have done a lot of topics which are not particularly not specific to our country and our culture. But in between when we realized we were like you know what we keep talking about these things everybody knows it. But what what are we talking about our culture in our country and what is the history and all that stuff, right? Hey, this is Stephanie from Steph. PUCCIO DOT COM with another episode of Japan's podcasting where we hope to shake up our own podcast creation process by hearing about how others around the world use the medium. Today we are headed to India to talk to Vishnu from the writer Anki podcast. He has a podcast by night literally and an engineer by day but admits that photography would be his alternate career if possible if you're a fan. Of the GOP, coffee podcast then you're familiar with Vishnu News Co host and brother Shankar Vishnu, and I covered everything that you can podcasting. No. Really this includes their podcast setup for writer in Geek how they divide up the tasks with the two of them the podcasting scene in India, editing, tech n tips, audience, outsourcing, podcast hosts kidding we covered a lot. We also talked about podcasting communities in India and advice for new podcasters also. This interview was recorded pre Covid, and at that time I was in an apartment with extremely bad internet and part of the delay in publishing. This episode is dealing with the sound issues that came with that the podcast host we had at the time pod being and they were testing out a new audio life -eacher, and so we we used that and you'll hear about halfway through the episode, we have a live caller, the sound. On that part is especially not great but definitely audible I did clean it up. So if you are a sound sensitive person when you hit that part about halfway through, feel free to skip ahead about eight minutes. All right. The full show notes with all of the links and everything that we talk about in this episode available at Steph Fujio. S. T. P. H. FU CCA. Oh, dot com forward slash go pats podcasting forward slash fourteen. Oh. Okay. So thank you so much for joining us musing I feel awesome. This is like a privilege. Oh my gosh you're way to kind I absolutely love that energy that you bring your always positive I keep watching your logs on twitter. It's all amazing. So it's really you know it feels great to be. Thank you. That's very, very cool and I left hysterically when I listened to your podcast of you UN Shankar, you're just hilarious together and I just I. Just such a good project. So let's start with your basic geography. Where are you right now right now I'm in a city called Bangalore now they call it Ben Glued. They've changed the name recently, which is known as the Silicon Valley of India and I'm an engineer. So naturally, I got gravitated towards Bangor. So right now I'm talking to you from Bangalore when did they change the name? That happened I think it's close to about Eight years now, but people still call it. Bangalore because we are pretty much goes to that name. So No really calls it Lulu. But it's in the transition phase right now. So let's let's dive into the podcasting bit because I'm very, very curious I've been following. You, your brother and a bunch of other Indian podcasters on twitter. But I don't. We don't really get into the nitty gritty of podcasting setup and the technicalities of the community and all that. So I have so many questions for you. Are you ready? I'm ready So let's talk about your basic set up for the podcast. So. What makes guys us what software to use just just the basics? Absolutely. So I wish I could say that my setup is a basic set of the thing is that before you when we started podcasting right I went beserk and I thought you know you need all these amazing you know mixers and of starting about guard which was a big I wouldn't say it's a mistake but then you really don't need that much. So the Mike that basic views basically is called Knox. Dual Mike, you can protect Salah and USB. So it works both ways right now I'm connected directly to the computer why USB but you can connect this to Sir Carter data. Excellent. Will it is pretty much similar to the two zero, which is very popular in the podcasting between podcasters big number of especially. Along with that, we have a mixer board, which in my my brother and my channel together and mixes everything, and we do a little bit of preprocessing on the mixer because it has all the you know based control and. Triple control and stuff like that. So even before we get the raw audio, some bit of processing happens there itself on the on the mixer it. So that kind of helps in the preprocessing stage a, but you can absolutely get rid of that and just the Mike Asset we just start. We'll go a little bit further and get stuff. So that's basically it and we have couple of headphones and headphone amplifiers and stuff like that that that's it's not a very complicated setup but. For. The purpose for whom studio I think that is a little bit of an. Okay. So let's back up a second because I. Know About Post Processing Years when you do some like leveling and some things to the audio after the recording but are you saying that preprocessing? So is that just like testing out the sound and seeing how it sounds together? Yes. So that is not a process that you need to repeat for all of your podcast. What we basically divorce will record sample. We'll try to adjust the different KNOBS and sliders which are their on. Mixer tried to find a good song because Budapest, we have different songs, minds more basie, and he has motably sound. So we kind of balance that out on mixer itself. So there before even you get off filed right when you record the raw file itself, some of the balancing and equalization amplification and all list stuff serology taken care. What we do basically after that, once you get the raw file as opposed processing, just remove the noise and do a little bit of you know amplification and all that kind of stuff. So it becomes a little easier. You don't have to do a whole lot of things Once you get the file because most of the things are taken care by that make sure it's because there's two of you do divide. Up who does what within the podcast? So if you look at the kind of topics that we covered right vk over a wide variety of stuff, some of the things like serial killers and some of them are like regular stuff lake to origins of toothbrush of like that. So these are different topics that come from either of us. So Shankar is more of a little darker than me. He likes all discrepancy stories about. Serial killers and all that I'm more of a science and space in kind of a guy. So that's why Asian. So once one person decides the topic usually at least till date that person does most of the research other person doesn't do much. So the conversation when we have the conversation live on podcast, right it feels more natural because then he's talking about a subject I'm practically I don't know much about it. It's pretty much unscripted. So that's why we are able to maintain the conversations. and. It sounds unscripted. It sounds very natural and it sounds like you're just sitting around having entering and chatting about this topic that just came to your mind. So well done in the not planning planning. Most of the times we do have drink, but it would mostly be a coffee or something like that nothing more than that, and then it comes to production of the episode of the person who decides the topic normally does the post processing I'm getting the final MP. Three file in writing nodoze show notes and stuff like that. So that's how we divided have skipped over it the. Description of the podcast, can you tell the listeners a little bit about what what your podcast is the name where we can find you and what it's about so those three things absolutely I, think description part of the most difficult thing is to I'm still trying to find out how to describe podcast but then let me put it very simple Soviet called the writer in Geek Show. A right Ren Geek everywhere twitter or instagram wherever and we are is that writer and Geek Dot Com. That is where we host our podcast and you can find almost all of the podcasting APPS spotify apple. Might. Younes. I'd intention is to get our listeners excited about topics right and not to be experts them but just to get their excitement and a excitement you know stood up so that they can go and do the rest of the research if they want, and it's more lake imparting a little bit of wisdom here and there. So that next time they go to a party, they have a lot of things to talk about. Something like that. But. Okay. So in India. How popular podcast for. Listeners. So. Let me give you a little backstory about mice Melissa, how did I start listening right So I I've been engineer since a time I've been working for a nineteen mystery. So in trying to find a solution to a problem which was more of a programming problem, I came across a podcast which was hosted by two programmers, right? So they were just rambling about talking about really interesting stuff in programming. Then, what is this medium Lake I've never heard of anything like this. This sounds interesting. It's like a radio, but you can play it anytime right and there's a lot of information that's coming in and this was back I think in two thousand, Thirteen, twelve, fourteen somewhere that time right and I've not heard anyone else talking about podcasts to me, right? That's what the state was in India back during those that's not to say that there was no-one there were a lot of people but I was just You know either of those people at all in the past couple of years or maybe in past three years there have been a huge. Number of people listening to podcast. Okay at least my colleagues and my friends have all started listening somewhere around two thousand, seventeen to twenty and eighteen Most of them listen doing their commute towards office of the women get introduced to this new medium they get. They're like Oh. This is awesome. Because most of the times we are stuck in traffic if you ban is the most congested city in the world. So we get a lot of time. Traveling to and four from office sitting in our car getting frustrated. So instead of getting frustrated you gain knowledge, you listen to the topics that you like, and that's how there's been a huge surge in the listenership. To three years that's where we are at right now. When, you say I have a podcast to people ever say what's that they generally know what it is. They used to say that I think we started in two thousand seventeen may June and those days whenever we used. So someone comes up and nausea what is your hobby what you do other you know? When you have free time and stuff. So I used to say that we are we podcast and stuff. So most of the Times it was difficult because you have to explain them more podcasters and based on whether they're interested you how to download an APP and show them. This is how it is done and all that. But now if you go and tell them that I do about because they knew exactly. What it is at least most of the crowd and Bangor being an hundred right? There's lot of these. Most of the crowd is exposed to these different social media, all these different medium of consumption like youtube and all those kind of stuff. So podcasters, I think naturally people end up watching podcast on youtube that's how they get to do. So most of them Noida Right now they're aware of what podcasting us. Now you started podcasting in two thousand seventeen, which is the year of podcasts as far as I'm concerned. I know so many people who have started that year including myself what do you think it was about two thousand, seventeen, that kind of thrust. So many of us into the space in fact what you said is I because most of the guys we know here in. Bengal who started podcast who who are still doing it have started in two thousand seventeen as well. So I don't know I don't know what influenced. It might be that that was year when there was so much of these big media companies coming out with podcasts like I don't know if serial started that year, some of those stuff's very popular in the media as well. It could be that but in my case I think it was just a random decision to do it because I tried to start a podcast back in two thousand fifteen fail miserably because I found out that I didn't have enough stuff to talk about I've been pushing this idea across to my brother many times saying that we should do something like this but he was never interested and he wasn't ever interested until I think we'd have to anti eighteen. I one near of podcasting was just because I was interested. He was like, okay fine. You WanNa do this. I'll be there for you. You know it was like an obligation later is when he got into. So I think twenty seventeen is a time when podcasting became mainstream I've seen many many podcast which started in twenty seventeen is included I. Think we need an organization just for us just for the two thousand seventeen irs exactly. Exactly. Man. Been Hounding that. Hey there. This is Steph from Steph Yukio. Dot Com have you been podcasting for less than a year? Do you feel like you have the hang of what to do to make your podcast interesting and put episodes out on a consistent basis in a way that engages your audience but you don't really have the time to sit down and reflect on different things that you could do to improve and change experiment with your podcast. It's easy to get caught up in the publishing process. And not reflect back on what you'd actually like to change and how you'd actually like to grow in your podcasting on. That's exactly why I've created this workshop called pod back pod forward reflective podcast. What we're going to do in this workshop is exactly how it sounds. We're going to look back at your previous episodes and figure out things that you liked and maybe not so much like about what you've done with the episodes, possibly your promotions of them and those kinds of things. Make a strategic plan about what you can do to make your podcast episodes stronger more interesting, more fun for you and probably more fun for your guest to listen to moving forward. So we're going to spend the time intentionally reflecting and es listening back on your old episodes. We'll have the link in the show notes for you, but you can also go to Steph Fujio. Dot Com forward slash workshops, and that's S. T.. E., p.. H.. O. All right. Let's get back to the conversation. With. Main. Nothing. Do. What was your audio background before you started podcasting? Did you do any radio or anything? Audio Technical Wise Right so In short nothing as a kid I was always interested in radio. So my mom is a she. Needs Radio playing all the time in my house right so I used to feel that these you know the way these obvious target was all fun ride. So I used to listen to radio is to think how award having radio setup but then I realized that even if you're doing a ham radio or something like that, you need to have license and all it was all very tedious process straight I had this dream in mind but I knew that. It's never gonNA work out. So as such, there was only a dream there was no audio bag no such everything I had. No right now I learned after I started my podcasting including editing and all those things. So I knew how to do things in our city because I used to practice a little music back in my college days. So we used to record some stuff demo tracks and all those kinds of I learned a little bit that time that came. That was useful because when we started recording I was able to you know manage audio production and all those kind of things other than that nothing much. No radio nothing nothing is wants to start editing is when you try to go on Internet and find out what else can you do because it was a free software right? We didn't want to invest too much money into buying and OBI audition and all those kind of stuff. Yeah. So we started with our city and we still using a recipe and I think that that is one of the best software. Are you tempted at all to move into other software, other other editing, software some point, or do you want to stay with audacity we I think one or two episodes regarded in addition I just wanted to try it out but the thing is that I honestly audition is amazing. There are a lot of things that you can do. It's really cool. But the thing is that I don't see a need for additional investment because. I need to get done I think audacity can handle it. So we never thought of making that switch. All right. Do you use a lot of shortcut keys when you're editing and I'm more for most guy? Yeah I I do use. The the general cut copy, those kind of stuff I try to memorize them. But the thing is that I end up using the most attracted more than. One but then I so I told you know what it's working. Fine. So that's it. I'd never put any into learning the shortcut keys and stuff. So I know like three or four and I use them again and again and again and again but there's a whole list of the my don't use ever good as You can not cheat from Internet, which is a paedophile, which has all these things to just curious. So you finders those a change in Let's say do find it productivity like you're raising the production time and stuff like that using the shortcuts if yes, I'm going to do it as well. I do but I also had wrist issues that are that are getting better. So for me, it was partially because I didn't want exacerbate my wrist, but then I also found that it. Got Faster like I have a let's see like all highlight press delete no eight a high see. I. Can't even do it. I can't even say it. I'm so used to just doing like one two three and I've deleted a part of it one, two three. So it kind of turns into almost like a drum drumming experience as I'm doing it I think it's more than you must remember you're right probably if I ask you could you might not be able to say forgive you. To it is it I would dis a or windows sorry pc or apple Mac. Okay. So for me, it's control see but for you, I think it's all TSE or function notes command command command okay. So Command C command is to cut command via's paste command. L.. Is My favorite for multiple tracks because you can silence one of the tracks. That is a useful because I use control we see commands whatever command command we and stuff, but I was not aware of this. Silence stuff I've other windows guy until recently I you know Motorola the Mac. Maybe two years two and a half years ago. So so at work used a windows. PC. So my brain is like, okay do I use this or that? So it gets confused at times. Oh. Yeah. Yeah Yeah. I had jobs where I had to use a MAC and I was wreck the first week week of work because I knew how to do it on a PC. But I look like an idiot to my co workers like no just do this and they're like waiting for me and like I can't hold on. To switch over her my brain. Misleading thing is Mac also has a control key doesn't do much. That's the problem. So you think that if it works in windows, it works here as well, but it has a separate control key but everything that control does in a windows environment is taken care by command and control is sitting there. Doing some other stuff that's a confusion part. That is confusing they should just come come over to the window side and make everybody. Happy. But. He had no control. L. IS BEAUTIFUL I learned about out of a painful experience where one of the two people on the tracks. Had just the weirdest sounds between talking and I had to just silence every every bit of them. So I learned that one the hard way. What do you know about your audience at this point? So we know that we have audience from. Six continents in the world except for Monteverdi don't know if someone listens to a podcast and entirety will because it does never shows up in our analytics. But. Because I know that it's just scientists and they're always busy and stuff like that. But yeah. Although, we have listeners all around. I think are kind of listeners might be these people are really curious about all who general knowledge the kind of people and we have got an expedited responses from places far away like you know some being Louis over Lincoln I'm seeing some guy but tankful Tancu whoever it was I, don't remember his name now. So heaping does. said that you know we really enjoyed your part I. Think he was from us He said, you know you put this friends. So we a lot of friends we watched from friends are kind of you know it always keeps playing in our television. So, we put friends references and they're in our podcast episode. So he was very fascinated with that. It's he's like man, this is awesome. That way sitting in India talking what friends and American culture and stuff like that. So we do get those kind of responses You know someone brings us from Australia and around the world. So that is kind of. Then we visit and we elect. So people do listen to us from all these different countries. That's awesome. So yeah, that's our our audience. I don't think we can put them in a box because we most of them see because our episodes are different right? It always touches upon different. V. Fine. People who liked that particular topic as well. So not everybody listens to everything some people say, Oh, you know what? This episode was little boring because it's not something that I'm interested and for the same episode we get feedback. This was amazing because we I was always curious about this kind of stuff and that kind of stuff and mostly plays in our favor because since we cover a lot of things, we get a wide variety of forty INS- right So that's that's kind of fun. So that's what it is. We have people listening over from all over the world who are interested in different topics. So there's a big variation from one person to the other. To admit that I'm sitting here thinking of the episodes that I've listened to viewers and I do lean more towards I. Think the food ones because I remember the beer won the ice cream one and the pizza one, those the ice cream what especially I really liked. I think did one on coffee as. Yes of course you did yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, and the coffee one for some reason, the ice cream on sticking out to me and I don't remember the serial killer one but I think it's that you said that is one of the first examples. Yet because serial killer ones are the ones of where we get most of your I think people like spooky stuff. Maybe that's why it is true crime and all those kind of John They are very popular in podcast right? So when we do such episodes, people really like it, do I, enjoy them probably not as much as my brother, but he really enjoys it. So we can kind of mix and match little bit. So you guys do all of pre impressed deduction stuff. You don't outsource anything and the podcast right nothing at all I. So we do the production of audio remain in the website ourselves everything is in house if if if if there was a ton of. Funding that came into the podcast tomorrow would you want to outsource anything? Let's say there's a big funding coming right so we always have a so this dream in fact. So we wanted to do a more of a documentary style episode, right where there's a lot of voice over we go to different places and talk to people and you know those kind of stuff because that would take a lot of time to research such an episode and put it in, put it as a series and stuff like that. In that case, definitely, we would like to outsource most of the audio work but I think that there needs to be intervention you know we need to be there. As a part of the post production because. Since you are the creators right? You are the best who knows what should come there and all that kind of stuff but I would prefer to have a someone who can help us with editing part once we have a first draft and stuff like that. Yeah. If funding comes in a yeah. Definitely, we would probably invest in little more gear and stuff like that when I was in China I headed to. Enter for maybe three or four episodes and it was very bizarre to have somebody else do it because I didn't realize how much of the shaping of the narrative that I did accidentally during the editing. So when he gave it back to me, I ended up doing my own editing anyway. So I ended up stopping doing that. So yeah, I I agree with you. There needs to be communication during the editing process. The thing is if you're nardo seeing right, it doesn't. It's no longer your content is what I feel although you might have all the recording and stuff putting it together as a story as a narrative is always up to you. So I enjoy that creative process. See I don't believe that research and just talking about something is where it ends you editing is also part of it because you are removing all this stuff that is not required you are you know putting the right audio clips in the right places I believe as custer you should be responsible for that as well. If you're outsourcing that I, think that becomes a half enough right he does half of the. Things you're doing half the things it's half his podcast. So I believe that it is a part of the creative process. So I think you should own that and do it yourself. Yeah. I wouldn't mind if somebody did the editing while we're in the same room together stopped takeout that bit that would be nice. Yeah. I don't want to go through the entire audio cutting pasting and all that stuff, but I'll just tell you tell them that you know what that is where you are to remove that particularly for this are an men are take that earlier clipping here all those but I need to be in the room to do that do hear about some of the the big networks. In the US and how many up to one hundred people on a team and I can't fathom how they would divide the task for one podcast one hundred ways can you I have also taught about this because I listen to this new daily and? Today explain and even heathen brain and all those kind of stuff right? So these are more complicated because because. The moment you listen to them, you know that it's not just one guy doing it right and at the end of the PA episode day call out the names of the members and I'm like, how do they even coordinate this thing? Right? How how vital we first thing is that Vera, these people fitting into this whole production rate a you are taking. So many names one might be in ended one might be doing some research. So I cannot imagine that even if I get a lot of funding tomorrow I don't know how I'm going to manage it probably only to call them and Figuring out. If there was enough funding, I would sit down and I would have a serious conversation with myself about it but I would work it out. We do have a question from the chat room going back to your content Alice car is asking how do you find the topics for your podcast? All right. So we don't bring and sit and think about what we should be doing next. So as life happens right when you're leaving your daily life, let's say, Maan morning I wake up and I'm like, okay it's time to brush my Pete then Sarah in leads. Okay. What is the history of? Toothbrush I've never thought about it. So that becomes a topic. So we have an excel sheet. Odd, we use Google keep or whatever it is. Handy See we don't have A. Process to be very honest like most of the broadcasters they have this shit you'll, and they have this brainstorming sessions and stuff like that. We don't have that. So as we leave our days let's morning you get into a car then you're thinking, okay. What was the history of car? Then you go into that topic newsom research maybe one of US likes sports. So I am a big fan of Formula One racing. So I, wanted to do an episode on that. So it it's just as life moves on new end finding topics. So we don't see painting too much about it. We just comes to us it might sound a little leash, but that's how we do it. Now that sounds great I think because it sounds like it's curiosity driven and it's part of your daily life. So I think that fuels the naturalness of. Themselves exactly. So so we don't if you look at it, right we don't do this extremely popular kind of stuff although here and there you might find such things at all but we liked to explore a little curiosities of life right So you go to a pizzeria with your friends you eat a pizza have you ever thought about how we document to this? A party tonight you're drinking beer how do you know what is origin of beer and what are the different kinds of beers? So these these are the things as in you know as we live our lives, we come across these simple questions and we want so them. Do you mind if we bring in a caller there somebody actually calling in. Norway's awesome. Hello. Hello. Hi what's your name. My name is Alexander badly listening to our conversation Vishnu also broadcaster medically. Hailing. What. my show just for those. Things that you don't usually give a second thoughts about. on-ice. So I mean I'm sorry that I'm asking the question. Hold on. Actually a wait. Here's here's another. Hey Can. You just immediately join us. Much. How my goodness here he comes Oh. Wow. Okay. Let's see how many people this can hold. On An. Alley. Right now running channel that. Arden and. how long would asking so it's been distill weeks maybe. We have already. Episodes partly. Because we all the time see if you look at our episodes in the last one published was was in. Vehicle planning to come back in January but I think the need. But. That that's fine. That that's okay. You can. You can be. It's OK. Tags and our. Hope Alleviate. It's Exactly look. Very, personality driven, and if the listeners like you, they'll wait for your next episode. So don't worry about that. So. I used to believe that you have to publish a win. That kind of stuff. Most of the time we used to get burned out and you know what? I'm not doing this. So we decided you know what stick test. If you are not your show that you expect anyone to do it. Maybe some there might be some on medium. You know awesome broadcasters will do it three days a week, but we are not like to we take our own time. Now we're working on you know indepth CDs and such kind of stuff. So it even more time to in our children. You Know How many times a month via. But. As. As as you say, if people really like you going to come back. So that turnip on. CUSS names it's. Ordinance. Gotcha. Okay. I'M GONNA look leader GRANDPA. Grandma do you have any more questions clear? This is so interesting event Leeann decided that we finally we need to start the podcasting. It was such. It was nice expedience because of V both nobody nobody wishes to see are faces. So Youtube was already out of. Norway. A new. Works we just did. A and the end of like we both know that we are not good at writing multiple pages of content. So our writing also. So. Glad, we left with podcasts. Exactly yeah. I did Youtube and podcasting for a couple of years and the editing on podcasting was so much easier and more rewarding video editing as a nightmare for me so I was like podcasting wins Yeah for sure for sure. Going off on the passionate another rural the so you're Duke General in Hindi. So Stephanie, you might not be able to understand it Ville. But Ville I I also do a lot of video editing and all, but he's still Running another youtube channel is still a very difficult thing for us. You must will for podcasting. Always. Off custos mostly that they bring bring on, bring to the table and everything. So Nice. Well, okay. You said that because I find the podcasting community globally to be amazing. So while I have you all on the line, can you tell me like what kind of network and podcasting community you have in real life in India or even online with Indian podcasters? If you ask me personally. I haven't met anyone around me who listens to podcast. Like. who suggested Ali that Bro you must listen to these kinds of stuff. This is very interesting, very amusing, and then he started listening the apparently the place where I live in, it is very difficult to find podcasters. Moment. podcast moment. Where are you from? I'm I live in butch that doesn't Koch, which is in Gujarat. So next one thing we have. Your events definitely the basically if just just for the context, this is very of any. News compared to Indian living. Near any means or something so. People who live here they are not that modern per se. You won't find a lot of people who were do much into the train meetings and this, and that the moment we start to put on cusps realized that a lot of people are slowly and gradually leaning towards. Used Orcas to this community. Right right right right. Right. Well, it sounds like I I would like to invite the two of you on the podcast in a few months. You've had a little more time with the podcast and we can talk about what you found your experiences, your struggles, that kind of thing. What do you think? Would love to. Be a great honor for us. But right now even if you offered us right now, I won't myself eligible enough to do that because I just don't know what it feels often. So. That's what I said in a few months absolutely hop on output my website down here hop on their contract me however you want and and we'll get you scheduled for later in the year. Let me go back to Vishnu because there's a few more things I wanna I, WanNa ask him before we finish out episode. Thank you so much for hopping in. It's been so much talk to you. Before you leave, we do have these meet ups with three conduct in. Hundred. And we have a meeting podcasting community here the had last. I think nobody very people all over India, coming in there. So keep in touch of vehicles those even so that you can fight on united one of the. Ever Mangla. Apparently. It will. Just for you a Bangalore's might dream city like I had been there a couple of times I stand there for days like, but I want to be forever. It's nice. Officer. WHO also keeping? The youth comes up. We'll let you. Sure. Thank you so much. Thanks for writing the. That was so cool. That's the first time I've ever had a call. Who is your podcast host? Then we started I I did some experiment I was like Okay Avi committed enough to go and get a you know. Lipson. Are Simple Casa I not sure because we'd never had a we were not sure whether we'll go beyond two or three episodes. So what I did initially was that I'm being a fairly good in tech so I rented out. So what of my own I put the files? After five episodes they realized that we want to do it for a long period of time. So I think we went, we went with lipson eight, hundred a plan for five dollars or something based plan which allowed you to upload up to fifty M of MP three per month. So what we used to do was to save money to companies are petri files, make their Nimby but episode, and so that means you lose to forty mb per month because we were publishing weekly right soon we found out that that's not gonna work anymore because our episodes became longer and we wanted good quality audio. And stuff like that so we moved to simple cast. We Love them for fairly long time about two years but the problem is I was maintaining websites separately and then maintaining this hosting separately and all that. So recently, we moved into squarespace although I'm sure that not many podcasters really used quite squash visit as a horse, but they have a plan. If you buy their website, right, they are unlimited broadcast plan can applaud unlimited MP3 and bandwidth is also unlimited. So that is where we are right now. I know some podcasters that do have their stuff on squarespace but I didn't realize that there's a an unlimited. Most of them even though the even though they're on squarespace usually host them and petrified somewhere else. But we we founded that's probably unnecessary because they're providing their own hosting. You know twenty seven, bus, seven, twenty, seven support very good website. You can customize it very well you can have a blog and podcast on the same site and all that and uploading is very simple. It hasn't been panel. You just need your stuff, upload your audio, give the description and manage it publishes it you know to all the channels. So that kind of reduces a lot of friction. So that's why we moved to squarespace recently but I don't think there is any company yet in India. We started a podcast hosting get. That is slightly surprising considering how boisterous the Indian podcasting community. Of Networks podcast networks. But I, think most of them leverage something like audio boom. You Know Barbie no lips in or something like that I. Don't I don't think anyone does the hosting themselves that brings to my mind I think hub hopper is a company that provides hosting. I've never tried the hosting I've never tried it so I cannot vouch for it. Let's off the communities that you're in again because I think people in India or outside of India, would like to know what kind of podcast and communities there are. So where are you involved? So as I said, right in the past two years, there'd been a soldier gusts listeners as well as podcast as well. So India has a lot of podcasts which are coming from India. Especially in the city where I'm from in Bangalore, we have formed small community We call US autopart collective so I says and then passionate people cousin Mustafa Stories. These are the broadcasters were started as weeded into. Two, thousand seventeen and they've been in the forefront of podcasting seat in India. So we have created this community we have been having meet UPS every quarter in Bangalore, the organizes, meet ups, and we have podcasters and listeners and fans and everyone coming in, and we'll have a nice evening. We'll give some talks in answer, their questions and stuff like that has been growing. We started with their own I think twelve fifteen people now last time. We had around fifty to sixty people attending this event from all over India. This is just an once it is. We have in other metro cities like Mumbai and and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, it's growing pretty fast even online. We have had online meet ups and stuff like that. Yeah, and in addition to that, we don't Shankar and I we have also given seminars in colleges here because we believe that students are. You know a bunch who can gain a lot from Boston right because they before they start their career you know if you get into podcasting, they can build a good portfolio for themselves on the topics that they're interested. So yesterday, I think day before yesterday Shankar gave talking his college. Gusting gave a little bit demo and they recorded an episode with the students and stuff like that. So that's also happening on the side. So intention is to the next generation of Oliver Podcasting, which we never knew we founded on our own rates we guide them and. had them start their issues when you guys do these outreach moments? What is one piece of advice that you always think I have to tell them this if I tell them nothing else I have to tell them this one thing about the beginning of their podcasting jurors to what I always keep saying is I don't overcomplicate things don't over think yourself if all you have is your phone and recording APP, start it with that don't over think your gear don't over think Yo content, right? Choice new. If you have a message, you will find at least some people who would listen to you. Right it might be ten or it might be hundred people, but you will find your tribe don't think on anything else. So what happens most of the Times you are listening, go I need a proper studio setup I need soundproofing in my room I, need this Mike, I need that which I had gone through initially right? So I took a long time to decide what Mike to. Poachers and stuff like that. Instead, I could have put about ten fifteen episodes by an NBA become an expert but I would say North Dakota. All modern gathered phones have very good recording quality. There are a lot of amazing software as like things like anchor right you can post your eyes for free. You can use your phone itself to do the editing and mixing and stuff like that. Don't over think find out simple solutions for your problems and just go ahead and just get started. That is sound sound advice. So I'm interviewing people from all over the globe on podcasting in their specific space area city, whatever that location is, what would you like to know about podcasting other places? What should I ask them? I would like for the podcasters to talk a little bit about their culture as well. Right what I'm seeing a lot happening these days is just imitating these top podcasters lake. Let your organism inevitable saw everybody starts a podcasting on you know motivation and inspiration and stuff like that. We have a lot of people doing their job really well, why don't you go back took? This is one of the things that we have. Learned as well. So we have done a lot of topics which are not which are particularly not specific to our country and our culture. But in between when we realize this, we will let you know what we keep talking about these things everybody knows it. But what what are we talking about our culture and our country and what the street and all that kind of stuff right? So India is land of lot of languages straight I. myself can't speak about languages. We started an episode about the history of languages. How did this language? How old is this language and what does it cross cultural influence like one of the languages which is from? The language of the state where I'm staying right call Canada it has an influence on the Greek Greek history, and all those kind of literature and all those kind of things which many people know about. So we'd started looking into those kind of topics and the reason that we are on a here are you on a break right is because we are doing roughly search into Indian history and some of the stories that no one knows. About India right. So does need to be told if you're into this podcasters busters, I would like to know more about what do they have to talk about their culture right the that wouldn't let me know more about them who they are as a person and you know what culture is and what are these interesting things I I love you know different aspects of culture beat food or beat places be different. You know ceremonies and stuff like that. So that's what I would love to see and not go any mediate all these pablo broadcast all around. So I'd say I'm not saying you should not do it but I think there is an untapped market where people are really not. getting back to their roots and talking more about that your podcast would be a right place because you speak to people from different culture straight now you're talking to a person from India tomorrow you might talk to someone else venom listening to those conversations. It gives me an idea of how their life is. You know let's say if you're sitting in Germany how how, what does what do these jared? These life even mean for someone who is German for India in India I do things this way how is it different words cultural difference. So tomorrow from visiting the country I know a little bit about them I know what other things to do and what are the things not to do. Those kinds of things need not specific but I would love if you know it was aspects of cultural differences and all that you see you can be local, but you can go global because English is a language which which is connecting everyone, right so even if you want passing leash, you don't necessarily need to talk about Western culture and stuff like that. You can talk about everything that is relevant to us. But if you want everybody to access it, speaking English because I feel that everybody knows English everybody understands English and if you want a worldwide audience that is the best way to. There are a few podcasters that are doing and I my hat goes off to them. They're doing their their podcast bilingual's they'll do it in the language that the cultures in and then they'll do it in English and I am so in all of that, it's unbelievable and I hope someday I can do something like that. But I just think it's amazing because then you're you're you're talking to the people in that culture right and then you're talking to everybody else helping them understand that culture and I think that is the most beautiful thing. I am a big believer that you know you need to you know preserve languages and Stuff like that because they are very, they're such beautiful things that people use to communicate I don't want one language to take over the entire world I want them to preserve that. So if someone is doing that it's amazing I cannot even imagine if you know doing a bilingual show and stuff like that we at times you know use our native language Parkas but that is for a small audience and all that. But we understand the difficulty behind if someone is doing that hats off to but I do believe that you need to preserve that as relief feel like doing a podcast in your native language by all means do it. Right. That would make appreciate your their own language as well because we are seeing a lot of stairs in India doing the same thing starting in their regional languages there is a very good audience for that as well because people like to listen stuff in their own language easy to process you don't have to convert from English to their own language and stuff like that right so yeah, I. Think you should try that as I don't if we might do it. But yeah as you said, if you get a lot of funding probably, yes, in India, there's is no lack of language just so yeah it. It's it comes easy for us. Well okay. Here's what I've interpreted and let me know if this is wrong but I've turned your question into this and I can change it still but I put what podcasts and your culture are available in English but telling the world about your local culture. That I think that sums up pretty well. I really appreciate you taking all of this time and being so flexible with all the call ins and all of the technical issues this has been so much fun chatting with you about all this. Absolute one, and thank you so much for inviting me. This has been one I think. We have done You know episodes in the past we have been guessing, but this was relief fund. This was amazing I think because most of it because of the energy that you bring into this your podcast and way you. You're always excited about stuff i. feel that is the thing. And that's good place to be in as well. That makes it very easy for anyone to listen to what you have to say. Well I, tell you what because all of these things that I'm creating as I'm sure for yourself to their things that I'm interested in talking about and there are people I'm interested in talking to. So it's super easy to be excited because it's these are conversations that I was having before the podcast, but I didn't record them and now I am. 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Two big commitments Wednesday: Moussa Cisse is going to Memphis and Jonathan Kuminga is going to the G League (College Basketball 07/15)
"Tiger Woods is back big cats. Making his first PGA tour starts since February. He's doing it this weekend at the memorial tournament, so the first cut golf podcasts. has you covered to stack preview PAS? Those are already in the feed, and then there's going to be of course round by round recap. podcasts as tiger searches for career win number eighty three. You can find the first cut on apple podcast, spotify or wherever you like to enjoy your podcasts. Hey there. It's scary perish. It's Wednesday. July Fifteenth Two thousand twenty. Welcome back to the CBS. Sports eye on college basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss Campbell fighting leaky Black Matt. Norlander is here with them. We have relevant recruiting news in the sport of College Basketball Mussa. See say five star prospect originally in the class two thousand twenty one, but now I'm class. Two Thousand Twenty announced this afternoon that he is committed to the University of Memphis. Pippen Hardaway's Tigers over offers from Georgetown Georgia. Florida State Lsu and Kentucky for those unfamiliar. I guess you can on some level. Call him a quote local product because he did spend the past year at Lausanne collegiate school, which is seven miles from the Memphis. MEMPHIS campus, but he's not really a local product. He was born in West. Africa moved to New York, in two thousand, fifteen played at Saint Benedict's prep in New Jersey played at Christ King in New York, then relocated a Memphis, the plate laws and this past season led the links to a state title, one Mr Basketball and the state of Tennessee average eighteen point, four points, fifteen point, three rebounds, and a ridiculous nine point two blocks per game, and now we have college basketball season. He says he'll play for the Memphis Tigers. norlander break it down. What do you make a penny? Hardaway lending a five star center in two straight recruiting classes last time. It was James Wiseman this time Mussa. Break it down Oh. Yeah, here's what I got a question for you I. Mean Here's here's was Gary Perez? Is tweet on Wednesday afternoon breaking all caps course. This was an all caps breaking the way I don't i. You know what expected to go to Memphis. I. Don't know if all caps was warranted there. Can you take me inside the thought process versus not in a? Regular grammar versus going all caps in that moment, please. Young Mussa say follows exactly ten people on twitter. I am one of them, and so I wanted to make sure he he saw how much emphasis I put on his commitment. How do I just know that two four six years from now if and when Lucy say is? Able to earn a consistent NBA paycheck, and perhaps it's even a player of of importance in the NBA. Gary Parrish will never ever ever forget or forget to remind people that there was one point in time and Mussa CCA followed ten people on twitter. And he was one of them. I honestly don't even understand it. Because like he used to follow a lot of people on twitter, I noticed and. One of them was not me, and then suddenly he cut almost everybody, but added me I don't really even know the connection there, but. I want I knew he'd see the tweet. And once I knew each the tweet I wanted to I wanted him to experience in all. Caps tweet obviously as as faithful podcast, listeners will know. Also one Moussa, see say. was tutored by your own son so I think. That might also be an influence. Parish working behind the scenes to get it done for Memphis. You've gotta admire actually ironically enough this happening in a week where parish is not on his local radio show. The conspiracy only strengthens. Okay, so here's what here's my question for you. you say the six eleven likely one and done talent averaged. Eighteen point four points, fifteen point, three rebounds and nine point two blocks last season pick memphis over Georgetown. Tom Kriens Georgia bulldogs Kentucky and Lsu. My question is. Who the hell is this guy planning? Nine point two blocks a game what? I have not I have. It's private school basketball in the state of Tennessee so? Took it over people who look like my oldest son in some cases like the blogging. What after another like I don't know I never been to a laws and basketball game and I've never even actually met. Say although it is true, my son and Mussa. Were classmates in my son to tutor him in in certain classes I. I don't even know if say knows that. My son is his classmate. He might, but I don't know that I've never I've never even had a real conversation about Mussa with my son. Other than so, what kind of young man is he and was like really nice? Really Really Nice guy like you know doesn't walk around like some big time. Basketball player I the only other times. I would talk to myself about Moses. Like Hey, did you see that dunk? That was on instagram last night or something like that? Because like fans are crazy, and at one point, the two schools involved in the Memphis in. RECRUITMENT MOST HEAVILY WE'RE MEMPHIS IN KENTUCKY and I'm like it doesn't matter what happens I. will somebody connected to one of those fan? Bases will blame me for it if HE GOES TO MEMPHIS, Kentucky fans it'd be because I pushed into Memphis somehow through my son, and if he goes to Kentucky Memphis fans, it'd be like see parish eight says all the modern salads like I'm not even getting involved. The only time my son had ever been asked about Mussa as recruitment. That I witnessed was one of my friends recently asked him when they were over at the house, and my son's answer was he always talked about? Georgetown but I don't think he's going to go to Georgetown and that was the extent of it. So he was right. Maybe my son's got a future and being a recruiting analyst, right? Information there. A and this comes on the by the way, a little double dose of Memphis basketball. Related News here. I mean also Mike Miller. Former Tigers assistant up and taken a Varsity head coaching job at Houston High School, which is. I got him. It I wasn't tapped into that situation, but but good for him and that's that's pretty awesome. for Mike Miller to do that. He left the program earlier in the spring and now Memphis As a player for next season losing an assistant from last season there real quick on say I haven't seen a ton of them. I have watched. Some film and I have talked to a film is actually putting it way too heavily there because? What. Mattress on Youtube exactly you know. Let's let's let's come on. Let's keep ourselves grounded. I haven't studied film on Lucy Athletic Long. Definitely I'll say this. He looks like he has the potential to step into college basketball. Mandatory if we ever season, but he looks like he can step into the sport and be a top ten defensive player next season like I know nine point. Two blocks is just a ridiculous number against highly inferior competition, but even if that translates to a third of the productivity that still be the case there so fantastic defender. Looks to be a pretty solid rim runner from what I gather. He still offensively right in fact I would. I would push back. This is just a couple like sniffing around in terms of his skill, and how it translates, not a surefire one in doner offensively has a lot of room to grow and go with all that, but he's got a little bit of a jump shot. They're certainly a great offensive rebound and has a good motor to them I will be interested to see. If he next season here real quick, and then I'll throw it back to you James why comes in. You've got the whole disaster. Right? wiedeman awesome three games. He's gone. Who knows like how much better he would have been or if who knows but precious shoe. Was a five star prospect, who went to Memphis was going to be. Second Banana instead wiseman leaves a chewy steps up his game and becomes. Verifiable top freshmen in America last season now he's not the same kind of player, but I will be interested to see if for a second straight season Penny Hardaway and his staff can get a projected potential one and done like a Chuo wasn't for sure one and done kind of kid, and then he becomes that if he can be that next season, but I have to emphasize that the two. Two players are very different in terms of their skill sets styles. Nonetheless, the headline Memphis lands in a big time prospect, bigm for the second straight season, and in doing so keeps the Tigers relevant. Because now you can make a case and I think that you did this. You can make a case. That Memphis actually has a top twenty five caliber roster with him in the fold for next season. I did put them twenty fifth in the top twenty five and one I would me I would have them projected to finish second behind Kelvin Sampson's Houston cougars, but obviously talented enough to compete at the top of the AFC. When you add see, say to a roster with Sophomores, which is so much. So important you know to having softwares instead of freshmen that you are heavily relying on especially when they're not one and done freshman like Duke has one and done freshman. Multiple of them every year. Same thing at Kentucky those are the freshman you win. Big Wit wants James Wiseman. quit the team and DJ Jeffrey suffered a season ending knee injury. Like Memphis was really relying on. You know top sixty freshman to to stay in contention for the NCAA tournament. That's just hard to do. As I pointed out last season in real time. If you can find me a college basketball team that lost two of its top. Top three scores from its opening night roster before February first and stay good like me semi-linked to that I could not find one and so memphis season went the other direction, but now boogie Elyssa Sophomore Lester can yoenis is a sophomore Dj Jeffries is a sophomore. Those three guys are now former top sixty high school prospects, four star recruits who are non freshman, and you put a possible one and done talent next to him in the middle. I think you've got yeah. Borderline top twenty five team like if somebody doesn't have them ranked I'm not gonNA. Scream that they should, but I think it's totally reasonable to have them in the top twenty five and your breakdown, a game is is accurate he is. Incredible presence on the defensive end of the court, which might be scary for the because you know Memphis was this got a little lost all the other stuff. They finished fifth in adjusted defensive efficiency. Last season they were a really good defensive team. And basically all of those players are back except for precious Choo, who was good defensively, but not necessarily the reason they were top, five and Tyler Harris transferred, but like he was a defensive liability because he's so small, you add maybe. The Best Rim protector in College Basketball Team, and that is what you know Jonathan Cavani for whatever it's worth told me. Say. We'll be in college basketball next season. You've got a team that. I, think can compete to make the instability tournament for the first time since two thousand fourteen, which is kind of. Impossible to believe that. MEMPHIS hasn't been to the tournament since two thousand fourteen I'll be. The other big aspect of this, and there's no reason to dance around. It is that you mentioned the James Wiseman thing becoming a disaster, there have been people who have compared this situation to the James Wiseman situation because it is similar in some ways. This is the way. Light. James Wiseman Masih say randomly. And surprisingly moved from outside of the Memphis market to the Memphis market before he. Committed to the University of Memphis with WISEMAN FROM NASHVILLE MEMPHIS with say it's from new. York City to Memphis and. The wiseman thing did become a big issue because it was. Discovered that penny. Hardaway paid the moving expenses for the family There's no indication that's happened here, but I guess I'd say this. The NCAA, going to ask a lot of questions as long as Moussa, and the people around him had good answers to these questions should be fine and you would think. You know like I if I could tell you. The people around him are pretty smart people and I can get more into those people here in a minute, but like they are the gotTa be smart enough to know that if you become the next five star center to move to Memphis and then enrolled at Memphis. They're gonNA ask you, are you? You are draping yourself a red flag. You just wouldn't do it if you didn't have all these questions answered. I don't think so. The people I talked to around the program think it'll be a non issue that he will ultimately be cleared for freshman eligibility, but if I'm being honest, I understand why other fans of other schools in and even some coaches would raise their eyebrows at this because again in that specific way, it is similar to the Weisman situation. What were you going to mention about the people around him? What were you teasing there? Well his. This is the part that I would. Think if I were the NC double A. I would I would be interested in. His Mississippi says legal guardian. Is A man, William Anderson, who I've known for twenty years maybe. Longer So. That immediate first of all how? How have you known Mussa? CICI's legal guardian? First of all? You're all over this recruitment. Okay? You got your son helping him with the coursework. Now you've known as legal guardian since you were practically out of college. Explain yourself okay, so William. Anderson is the head coach at Lemoyne Owen allege which is a division two school. Located six miles from the Memphis campus, and so William has been in basketball circles in Memphis for a long time, and for people who aren't from here or don't like understand the inner workings of of Memphis basketball. IT IS A. IT IS A. Very big small town. That's the way I would describe Memphis I. Mean it's a big enough city to have an NBA franchise but like. It's one of those cities where all the rich people know each other like. If you know somebody who's wealthy in emphasis, they know everybody else who's wealthy in Memphis. And basketball is the same way like all of the AAU coaches. No, all of the boosters. No like everybody is connected one way or another, and so like William Anderson was a figure in basketball in Memphis so I've been covering basketball in Memphis for twenty years. So I've know William Forever. He is. Days Legal Guardian. Now the question the NCAA will. WanNa know the obvious ones are okay. Why did YOU MOVE TO MEMPHIS? And the reason stated publicly is to get academics in order. That's why the enrollment one of the best private schools in Tennessee the best private school in Memphis. Okay, that passes the smell test. I guess but like who who paid for the move. How'd you get here? Who Your tuition like? These are things that are going to have to be able to show were done within incident rule. The interesting thing I don't know. I don't know how you break this stuff down but William. Anderson Penny Hardaway like if I've known William Anderson for twenty years so. Has Penny Hardaway now? William Anderson has known. Since, he was an eighth grade, so that might be a quote. UNQUOTE PRE existing relationship. That's fine maybe. But here here's the one that just sort of jumped, I. Haven't seen anybody else. Make this point. MEMPHIS PLAYS LEMOYNE OWEN annually in an exhibition game. Every October November inside Fedex forum now they pay one to come play that game. Now Lemoyne Owens head coach is the legal guardian of prospect who just committed to the Universe St Memphis so is the leg to come in and say. How Much Do you pay? Lemoyne Owen like. Threaten to play that game if this didn't get done, is loins contract to get doubled because this did get done like I'm not suggesting any of that, I just know that these are the types of things that the NC ablaze, going to ask about and again I cannot stress this enough. The the people around Moses say understand. They understand the scrutiny that would come with him. Enrolling at that's under these circumstances, and my understanding is, they are prepared to answer all of these questions, and they feel confident won't be an issue, but as always we'll see I. don't pretend to know only other thought I have on the whole thing. Was You know see say I guess was initially expected to announce. She's more than a month ago and then I believe he came out and said listen you know with where our country is at right now. I'm just not comfortable. Doing this isn't the most important. Important thing I'm going to wait in this was really in the first couple of weeks after the murder of George Floyd, and at that time my radar scans as those people were leaning that he was going to go to Lsu, and then in the past couple of weeks that perception changed whether or not Moussa say ever was leaning more to play for will way than Penny Hardaway I cannot give you an answer on that people that are closer to the recruitment like the coast. This podcast certainly could give an answer, maybe but but that is one other element as you're talking about all this GP. And you consider what is still awaiting Lsu. Something else and we're not here to you. Know I'm by no means here to to throw a wet blanket on a fantastic commitment for Memphis, but it will be interesting in the coming weeks and months to see if everything can be proven to be on the up and up with all of this, and that Memphis essentially dodge any kind of issue here, because what would what would really create something of a stain on a fledgling head. Head coaching career for Penny. Hardaway is if in consecutive years he had prized recruits run into eligibility issues. It's just not the it's the kind of thing where even if you get into the nitty gritty of some of you can understand why it can be a nuisance, but a reasonable nuisance. It's still the kind of thing that can affect you recruiting down the road inevitably as you can understand why negative recruiting so I actually think that. Having. A Fairly seamless transition, to get into, MEMPHIS, reclassification into get cleared is important to penny. Hardaway in the near term for the next one or two recruiting classes. There's no question because if say has eligibility, problems are instable issues, suddenly other coaches. We're going to be like. Oh, you can't go to Memphis every time. They enroll a five star center. It becomes a problem like you just need to say. The instability is waiting on them to get somebody like you, and then you're going to be dealing with a lot of. Of stuff, you don't want to deal with I. Agree it's important that this this one goes smoothly for whatever it's worth. Brian Snow who obviously is recruiting analysts longtime on my radio show maybe last week week before and I asked him to your point everybody seemed to think that he moves to seize. It was headed to Lsu. Do you believe that he was leaning toward Lsu two weeks ago and Brian said yes, and I said okay, what changed and he said I don't ask those types of questions. That I? Don't ask why something changed I just asked. Where is the player going? That's all I need to know for my for my job and I said point taken, but. Listen I'm never going to be naive about this stuff, so I won't even pretend to know exactly what happened, but I do think that Memphis benefited from two things. The pandemic. And and local pickup games. If that makes any sense because the pandemic obviously has everybody, nobody can travel like. Never been to Lsu, campus couldn't go there. To visit couldn't be around that coaching staff. Meantime you know what he could do. He could play pick up in a local gym every day with Dj Jeffries with Malcolm Dandridge with Alex Lomax with Damian Baugh. Meantime guess who else is in those games future rookie of the year Mara. So what must be like for a young person when you are hoop every day with Memphis? Players you're surrounded by almost nothing but Memphis fans who are telling you every day to go to Memphis Jaama rant is both privately and publicly encouraging to go to Memphis and things like I'm gonNA run Fedex forum at the NBA level. You're going to run form. Form at the college level and a meantime. You can't go to Lsu and visit. You can't go to anywhere else in visit I really do think it just becomes much easier to stay where you're at so again. I'm not saying that's the only thing that happened but I. do think that that those circumstances had to have helped memphis in the recruitment moose. Understood all right well. We'll keep tabs on the story, but if anything, winds up happening down the road. This podcast I meantime and other five Star Prospect News Jonathan. Is reportedly skipping college. Joining the G. League program. We'll get into that next, but first. Check this out. I know we all have been craving. 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Yes, you have see back during these unprecedented times and we got your back with that performance enhancing audio, the State of combat available on Apple podcasts modified stitcher, and wherever podcasts are found. So in other five star prospect. News John is reportedly skipping college joining the G. League program that is according to a report from our buddy. Adam. The GORIA so norlander I think most people have assumed this is the direction. This was headed. For A little while now, but at least according to Zags, it's now Dun Dun Dun commingle skipping college. Just the latest elite recruit to choose to do that. What are your thoughts on it? Not surprised I mean I went on. HQ CBS. Sports HQ on Wednesday morning and talked about or thought Mississippi say woodland, said Memphis and I got asked about worth Jonathan, commingle woodland, and I did say the G., League pathway program was my expected outcome there and gorgeous report recording Wednesday night by the way well past the dinner hour, and coming scheduled to make his announcement on Thursday at two PM Eastern. After that, this is what we were going on the report. There and goodness I hope that sticks to what this report is here. For Adam Sake. If nothing else, but yeah, this has been. Certainly the scuttle, but for a while and in doing so, if in fact, this is what coming doing this means the pathway program can actually feel the starting five GP Trivia time. Can you name the other four? Where okay this is a new thing, so can you name the other four and inform our listenership? Remind them in the process. It will be if Zags is correct and I have no reason to about to doubt giant coming up. Jalen Green. Day should. Knicks. ISIAH tied Yep. Oh is it, is it? Six, Kenyon Martin, junior or something. Yes. I believe that's the fifth. If there's someone else that, I miss it, but my understanding and I don't have it up in front of me, but when I was. Going over to earlier, that was the Ford that I had yes. I believe that's. How about that? I got a Trivia Tom and I didn't cheat it off there. We well. That's perhaps saying that. Perhaps you've done so in the past, no cheating. But I will call things up to like. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah right so but I didn't do that at call anything. I'm just looking at your face here. We go so by the way little teaser like this podcast is eventually going to video eventually and we could not. I'm going to get a haircut long before. Then I'm going. I have a more than four months a haircut. You couldn't be bolder. I couldn't be shaggy or it's total dichotomy situation going on here. I if I would've known. The advantages of being bald like listen I think I'm ugly, so I wish I could fix that, I would, but I think I've reached the point where I'm ugly, even with hair like it doesn't matter anymore. I'm just a disaster anyway and and so. You'll get that text message. Hey, can you jump on CBS? Sports HQ in a different life I'd have to say. Well I've got to take a shower. Fix My hair now. It's just like yeah, I'm ready to go. This is the way I look all. I got I got a while. There are some. I might even have an old photo. You know what I think I do. It's in our tax chain for sure of you. Oh my goodness the phone. The video of you eaten at a barbecue joint with Derrick Rose I. Think this the summer before he got to Memphis is just the side by side would be just incredible. I might have to find that for the teaser. Please ovine. offered. First off. It's amazing. It's amazing food. Listen. Derrick rose is a NY was was a nice young man. Had nothing to say, and it's not because he's trying to be a jerk. Just quiet they he's. He's not as quiet anymore, but like at eighteen years old, he had nothing to say, and I'm sitting in a restaurant with other customers. We've got a whole camera crew. It's like we're doing. A, red table talk in the middle of a barbecue joint, and you ask a question and he's got nothing to say, and then you ask another because he's got nothing to say and keep your mind, I was also like not used to. Being can't things that? The hair, the hair, the hair situation man amazing. What commingle listen in doing this by the way comes the long anticipated reclassification say, did it? Jumped up to two thousand twenty, coming as well so he is eligible to be drafted in two thousand and twenty one and listen by not going to college that means most likely Texas tech misses out, and because of that Texas Tech. With him would have been in the national title conversation I don't think you can fairly put the raiders there now. But it is another highly talented player coming. I like Jalen green more, but you can make the argument that coming is now the most talented player to do this and go to the pathway program so in getting a fifth player. You can certainly say there is traction on that idea. There have been plenty of others who have still said. No. It's not for me, but. Again. Still so much to learn from all of this with the pathway program, and whether or not like there's going to be a season. How the how that whole operations even GonNa work. Having a particularly brutal fall and winter in general. But you know what if you're Kamenga? You're highly rated, you will. See, you will probably be in the conversation for the number one pick and kind of on this because we'll talk about coming up. Plenty I'm sure going forward in the months to come. But If you're coming to slash jalen green and we don't have a college season. We have a highly reduced one, and then you just wind up going and training, and you're completely off the map. Yes, you can make the argument I don't know if it's ultimately beneficial to your first or second or third year in the NBA, but if you're looking to get drafted for second or Or third, and you're just off the map and you think that's going to be enough where you can just thrive in a workout situation and keep your stock high. Then obviously I can understand why if you're Jonathan coming this why you WanNa do this. You eliminate risk. Some general managers and scouts actually find potentially less appealing if you're not willing to take that challenge, but some. Don't and so that might be an ultimate destination for coming guy if you told me that he was a top three pick and twenty twenty one I would believe you particularly if you said that we had a highly producer, no college basketball season all actually think that works in his favor. Yeah like I. Don't have much new to say on this type of situation because it's really no different than the Jalen. Green situation like whatever I said about Jalen Green joined the G. League program. Just go listen to that I cast I. Think the exact same things. About, Jonathan, I do believe though that the that it becoming increasingly unlikely that we have a normal college basketball season and Maybe. No College basketball season, although wouldn't bet that way, but it's certainly possible. That makes this even more sensible like if you're not going to be able to play college basketball anyway. Like. Why not just go take the money train like you? As opposed to enroll in school, take an English class. You've probably never going to use toward a graduation like Yo. Like I'm to do college if I could play college basketball, but if we don't even know, we're GonNa Play College Basketball I'll just take four hundred five hundred thousand dollars go to southern California train all day every day, and be ready for the two thousand twenty one. NBA draft so. I? Don't know if this is sensible for everybody. Under these circumstances, it seems totally since. Agreed Okay so on that on that note. Let's! Let's discuss. Where we are right now because I've you? You've talked to people I've had a story. You had a column. That we're in the middle of July perish and actually I meant to mention this on last week's podcast. It's almost it's a bizarre experience in that like we should have just been coming home and finishing up our touches on like peace GM stuff, but it doesn't feel like. Sham should be here I. Guess that's just the effects of the pandemic. So we're about. By the way I had. In my calendar, it was last Wednesday yes, and had peach jam. Did you really? Yeah, so it popped up on like last ones I woke up and I had a like a notification. It was like. Fly Into Augusta. It's like I'm not not flying to Augusta. It's I'm I'm not flying anywhere ever again, probably I. I won't. Slip too far down this alleyway, but if we get to next week and we're kind of. Dry on things to talk about. Maybe we talk about a few good stuff from from July recruiting stuff in years past list or something like that, but we'll see if the news dictates otherwise anyway. What I was going way too slow, and making point was. We're only halfway through the offseason here. I get all that the scheduled off season, but because you have had the situation with the Ivy League now the big ten and now other conferences saying we're GONNA conference. Only we're going to wait to the end of the month was. Crazy was on last week's pod. I made the declaration. My prediction is you're gonNA. Have all these conferences conference? Only we're going to hear about the engines ally, and then within an hour of the pod, going to the feed, the big ten, actually that news came out with wild here so because of all of that there's now been more with the college season. What are your thoughts in this? What our coaches saying late on me? Okay so I wrote a column. I guess it was Monday night. And because. The Patriot League had already an obviously the Ivy. League announced they're not having. Sports in the fall semester, so ivy league. Basketball is not going to be played in in November and at least in December. Until the fall semester done Patriot League announced the same thing, and then on Monday night. The National Junior College Athletic Association. Monday afternoon announced the same thing. They were even more specific though they said they will push basketball January. Push football to March if they can play it at all so really I just use that news hook to write a column to make some of the points that I wanted to make based on conversations conversations. I've been having with people who work in conference offices, and you know college, basketball, coaches and. The point the main point I made is that it's becoming increasingly unlikely that we're going to have a season that starts on time. And it features a full schedule of gangs. And the reasons are reasons that have made in the podcast so him again, but like I'll keep it shorter. I'll try at least. The main reason is. These most power conference schools nonleague schedules are by game. Things like Louisville played eleven games last season. Seven of them were by games. Well, the reason you create those games is because you can pay somebody a hundred thousand dollars to compare you, and then you make that part of your season ticket packet so a Louisville. Game Against Eastern. Kentucky at the Center is one game and your season-ticket packet. Just like a duke game is and a fragility game is in north. Carolina game is and they all cost saying if you're a Louisville Fan, you want to buy season tickets that ticket to the Eastern Kentucky game. Cost you just as much as the ticket to the game. At face value so it's an easy way to spend. Say I don't anywhere from sixty five, thousand, one hundred thirty thousand dollars. Let's just call it one hundred thousand dollars easy way to spend a hundred thousand dollars to make millions in return. When you take into account, season ticket sales, a parking concessions everything else well if you can't have fans at Games. That, still longer a money maker. It's a money loser. So why do these schools would play games that are money losers? Why do you want to pay one hundred thousand dollars to not get any revenue back from ticket, sales or concessions or parking? So you're not gonNA play beyond that. I've had many coaches bringing this up to me like. A SEC school is going to have the resources to test test test, test, test, test test, but A. Summit League school won't. I talked to a low major coach this morning. He said GP. There's just no scenario where we can test as much as the power. Conferences are GONNA test. We don't have that money. So power multiple power conference coaches have told me is why would we test test test test test and all of that money trying to do this as safe as we can do it, and then bring a team in from a slow major conference from from from low from low for a lower conference. Right with less resources. We don't know when the last time those players were tested. We don't know how often they been tested like. Why would we do this our way and then put our kids on the court with those with those teams and the answer is we wouldn't. It was rhetorical question? We're not going to do it, so for those reasons it is looking. Increasingly unlikely that we're going to have a season starts some time or nine League Basketball Games what I am hearing. As, the most likely scenario. Is Conference only schedules across the board? And that way every conference can implement. Testing protocols and enforce them because the NC double A. Doesn't have the power to do that the. CanNot say this is the way we're going to test and what? We're GONNA. Do if somebody test positive so? You need to do the same thing. They can't tell each other what to do. Like Major League Baseball the Commissioner in after reach agreement with the Union can tell everybody what to do same thing in the NBA same thing in the NFL. College athletics is not set up like that, but the big ten is set up like that and the big twelve. Set up like that. So what I heard is A. While recognizing it's Middle July. Things could change, but at this moment if you're an honest with the reality of the situation, confidently schedules that start late that way. If you're the big ten or the SEC or the PAC twelve, you can put in your testing protocols, and then applied them consistently across the board. Everybody's held to the same standard, and you can feel confident when you stepped on a court. Exactly how often your opponents been tested, and how recently they've been tested, and at the question becomes. Can you still do it outside of a bubble and I don't know the answer to that I. Don't think anybody knows the answer to that, but in a perfect world that is what the power conferences would probably try to do honestly exactly what they're trying to do in football. Let's let's play power. Let's play conference only schedules while travelling to each other's campuses. Will they be able to do it? I, don't know, but that's the plan right now, and it seems like that will also be the plan for basketball listen. We don't love talking about this, but we are. It is an inevitability that. We're going to wanted to talking about this as we get into August and September because this is the only way that football can even be a pipe dream at this point, and for the very same reasons with largely the same people making these decisions. It's why basketball's probably headed that way. But as of right now I mean I, spoke with Dan Gavitt VP basketball for the way he's in charge of running. The absolute tournament oversees the selection committee process all that stuff I spoke to him. Five days ago now I guess, and I ask I said listen, you are in a position where you have not just access to, but you were engaged in practically daily conversations with some of the most important people in the college athletics from. Be Mark Martin. Anyone else high up. At the VP level within the subway to conference commissioners, athletic directors high-ranking high-profile wants that literally sit on the selection committee. His his words to me were right now. You know we are in the middle of July and Conference Commissioners. Athletic directors are in no way positioning themselves and. I don't know if this is wrong. GP, but the the fact is they are they are they are saying we're dealing with all the false stuff right now. We're not even getting to winter sports and most predominantly men's and women's basketball the two. Sports, that can make any sort of money that our winter sports at the instability level. That's just not something that we're going to play it because we don't know what the situation this country is. GonNa look like in the middle of August, let alone when we're you know trick or treating. If that's even something that people can do so so that's where we are right now. Obviously I expect that to change and once that does. We can have more conversations about what it means for college basketball next season, and how teams programs Hell, the tournament selection committee. There's a lot of stuff to get to, but that's that's weeks, not months away. But I. Do tend to lean even on July fifteenth and again. This is not what we want Bryan Curtis. who writes for the ringer had a really good story that went up Wednesday about just. The. Sense of sports coming back. Some leagues are some leagues aren't and ends some of the public thinking that sports writers like rooting against that Oh. My God he could not be in most of our listenership like this, but you could not be more off the mark with this like we need. We are lively. We need sports to return. It has to happen here. Colleges the trickiest one because it's also a matter of public health I mean you had the director of the CDC. Say in the past twenty four hours pairs. Robert, Redfield, he said I'm going to here because I. Don't have the direct quote up in front of me. But he's legitimately worried that this fall and winter will be the most drastic against the greater good of the American public health in the history of this country. If we don't get this situation together and if those. Ominous words wind up becoming true within yeah from professional football than easily down to the college ranks. Playing games just is a very daunting task here. You got kids on campus with universities and all of that stuff, so always keep that in mind when we discuss these things I do think the conference only method is probably in inevitability most specifically because the incident overlay lacks the ability to have uniform universal guidelines on testing for many. Pragmatic and practical reasons, so if you silo it to the conferences. At least you can triangle about it that way. But before we earning before, we could even get to that point parish, having those we will know weeks if not months before whether we can have a season in general real quick you had. I don't know if you referenced this or not. We talked about it offline. You had a low major coach that he present to you. Okay, so I talked to a low major coach this morning. Because we were texting late last night and then and then the text. Continued this morning, and then he just hit me with the phone call, so we're talking through all of this and the point he made is that and I should say this is a low major coach who has by Games with power conference schools multiple like he needs the pay checks that come with these games and he said listen. We're not playing those games. It's July fifteenth. How different are we? Didn't we were on March Fifteenth? Like maybe worse is like, so we need to. I thought this was interesting. Coming from him, he said we need somebody to just go ahead and stand up in state and put it into. The nonsense were not playing those games now to your point. Commerce. Commissions are dealing with football right now. They'll get the basketball later, but his point is like listen. We already know that. US Low major major coaches, we talk. We already know we're not playing these games. Against these high major programs, he said, listen to high major program is might be able to do this outside of a bubble. Because they've got the resources to test test test test test seems complicated, but if anybody can do it, they can do it. He said we can't do it. Outside of a bubble at the low major level, we don't have the money to test as often as they would want us to test and it just it just won't work, but the point he made is the basketball tournament just worked in a bubble now not without issues, but they started it, and they completed it, and of course ended with a Travis Diener, three pointer Shasta Travis Diener, former conference USA star, anyway so low major coaches like listen. They play a bubble. So why can't we also try to play in a bubble? So here was his idea, he said. All of our campuses are sending students home at Thanksgiving because. University presidents have decided you don't want students going home for Thanksgiving to all over the country. You know the virus bringing it back to campus now. You've got a problem so once you leave for Thanksgiving break. We'll see January so he says okay so going to be empty. He said we played through the Christmas holiday anyway every year, so it's not like we can't play in the middle. In between semesters do college basketball is played in between semesters. He said so. Here's my idea. Let's start on time. We're GONNA play no league, Non League Games and then we're going to send everybody to one of our campuses the day after Thanksgiving. Because students will be gone, the camp should be mostly empty. That will that will be our Suto bubble. All of our teams go to one campus. We quarantine for like seven days ten days test test test. Start playing games play every other day. He said. Maybe we get in nine games or something, then we. Then, we go back to our own campuses and we go back into a bubble situation in late February. Maybe play. His number was five more games. We got fourteen league games in. That is set our league standing. Somebody's conference champion. Then we while in that bubble play our conference tournament, and now we establish who's going to be our auto bid to the NCAA tournament. I don't hate it. I'd. Like our administrators were going for would go forward, but his put was. We need to start thinking along these lines in stop pretending all I'm sure it'll be fine because it's not going to be fine if you don't get creative, you're not playing maybe at any level, but especially that low major up. All, right, so I hadn't heard that plan till you just laid it on me now I'm sure there's a relatively significant flaw in it. A logistical one that's identifiable now in addition to one that could surface down the road that it makes it near impossible to do, but I don't hate it on its surface. Initially one thought that came to mind is okay. WHO GETS THE CAMPUS? There's a couple of ways you can do it one. Is You pick the campus? That is obviously one that might be best suited to host, and how something like this another could be. We never had an NCAA tournament. This is the way you reward your regular season champion from last season since they never had to play in the tournament. Another one is you might want to try and pick someone some campus that is the most geographically central insensible to everyone in the league's. Those few questions pop to mind. How about this one? This just? Take the campus that is in a community that has the best numbers at the time. Another, obviously, yes, another extremely smart idea to put on the table there. You'd have to get everyone in the league willing to do so and then. You'd have to figure out. It's probably. Because his fear was, he said GP. They don't want us in this thing anyway. He said so the second day play and we don't. Worry we're done. We're not getting our auto bits back. He said he said they're going to A. WE got up. I don't know if he's about he's not. He's not because and I'll just interject this because actually this part never. Had A story up in terms of what I talked about was Gavin last week and then had a column. Go up on Wednesday about how the committee's got to change some of its please go read it. because I think it's going to be relevant later in the year, but the one thing that I got from Gavin that including those pieces is that the selection committee met virtually as it does every single year. Usually in person in early, July and one of the things they did determine. To a certain extent, is we if we do have a tournament, every conference will be represented, and it's going to be up to the conferences to determine how they do it, but one thing we took away as a committee is no matter what way any league decides, it wants to provide at least one representative from its league. If we have a tournament every conference, no matter what is going to be represented so I understand the coach that you spoke to I, understand his cynicism, but I have an on the record. Response to that, which is, that's not going to be the case. If we have a tournament, all thirty two leagues will play in that tournament barring. UTTER CATASTROPHE! I think his was if they are able to play at the high major level because they have the resources to test test test, and and maybe pull it off and we just concede that we can't so we don't even try to play a season, so we're just not. We're not we don't. We don't have teams like we don't have anybody to put the. He's at once we. Once they have it instantly tournament without us. They going to be ready to have a whole bunch returned battles again i. don't know if he's right I know that's in his head. Okay, so so his point was. Let's figure out a way to have some sort of conference season. Even if it's short and let's figure out a way to have a conference tournament, even if it's unusual, let's make sure we have somebody who will represent our league in the incident tournament because this is another interesting point I thought he made. He said he had talked to just say people who. Are Higher up the ladder than him because he's really somebody who's trying to think and and figure out if this is gonNA happen, and how it how it will happen, and he said and I'd be interested to see if you got this impression from Dan gap when you talk to him because what this coach said is. They're going to have a two thousand twenty one NCAA tournament, one way or another like they they cannot afford to not do it, and so he said he was told by somebody in a position of power. Listen if we have to actually create a bubble for the NCAA tournament. Like if we have to go to an island and I know this is extreme and hyperbole. I the the point that. They'll do whatever they got to get this thing on TV and so. What impression that coach was left with was. If, they have to if they figure out trying to play a sixty eight team tournament without a bubble is just not practical. They will create a bubble for the NC Double A. Tournament and We all understand how the tournament works the. The point the coach May was listen after after four days. You get rid of. All but sixteen teams, so you cut the numbers really drastically really quickly. And? Again in a perfect world we'll have a vaccine by then and we'll. We'll play into tournament and a dome with eight thousand people, but short of that if they have to do it in a bubble, this coach was left with the impression that they will do it. They will build a bubble for a tournament before they don't have a tournament and given that. We know that the basketball tournament just happened in a bubble. is currently happening in a bubble. The NBA is presumably going to happen in a bubble. They think they could pull that off as a worst case scenario and they're willing to do it a few things. One obviously, ask Dan Gavitt if he is in relatively frequent communication with high ranking NBA personnel. And he said not on an everyday basis. Obviously he and so many others. Are following what the NBA's doing on a daily basis, and he is in communication and if the. Scenario that this coach has posed to you. In terms of an instability tournament bubble is something of a distant realistic possibility, obviously with the NBA and can't do is going to dictate a lot of the optimism about whether the installation do it. There are issues beyond that. That we shouldn't even really get into at this point because the just way way way too thorny. I did talk to Gavitt about the tournament and hopes that it can be held and contingencies and one of his. You know primary talking points. was I promise you this? If basketball is safely being played anywhere in this country in the year two thousand, twenty one, we will have an instability tournament, so I think that's as aggressive as an on the record statement in the middle of July, as you could possibly expect to get out of Dan, Gavitt, that might lean in on what you're referencing there, but there's. There are so many bridges to cross before we can get to that kind of points. What can't be overstated. Is How critical holding a men's Division One AA tournament is to the welfare and wellbeing of college programs across the Country College football obviously means a ton. We wait and see on how many games can be done there, but from a television package standpoint. When you look at the size of of what the receives to have, its tournament aired on CBS and Turner's networks. It is humongous so I do believe that A. If, it is if they can do it, and it is safe in a bubble situation I. do believe they were trying to pull it off, but there's a lot of stuff that you know. We'll get future podcasts, but that is an interesting concept, and if we were to get to that point, the questions that pop to mind is okay. WOULD THEY HAVE GO TO THIRTY TWO TO BE SAFER? Get all leagues in. In because I do believe that the committee would prefer I believe this and a lot of people might disagree, but having spoken to people on the committee years past I believe that if you gave the committee to options, and they won't just have two options, but to get to what the coaches, maybe cynical about thirty two teams in it's every one representative from every league, or if it's twenty four teams, and it's. and. They're basically all power conference programs. The instantly would absolutely prefer the thirty two team option because those members still carry a lot of collective influence, and so if you're a fan of a small score, coaches a small school. If we got to that point, I tend to believe that the smaller leagues would still be represented in the tournament. That's also based on conversation with Gavitt last week last. Question for you, yes, or no. You will cover a college basketball game before two thousand twenty one. As in go to gain a person. How about this? You'll write about one. You write about something that happened in a college basketball game before January, first, two, thousand, twenty one. You know what I'm GonNa say yes right now. I really want it because I really wanted to happen. July two on July fifteenth. Allow me to say yes. Okay like asked me again in a month and we'll see where we're at but I. I think there is still a possibility. Particularly win. When you've got I, don't know where we're going this. But when you got a lot of schools that are so geographically close, that might be able to theoretically pull something off if they can get testing done if and do something kind of in the eleventh hour, so yes, I will say yes, right now I have a feeling you're going to say no, though I I'm not optimistic. I'll put it that way, and you touched on this earlier and I'll add to it, and then we'll get outta here. It does get frustrating when I hear people because I get these tweets. Say I'm rooting for the virus or rooting against sports like are you out of your mind like I make a nice living? Completely tied to sports like. If you're a carpet salesman right now. You don't really need sports back to to sell carpet. People need carpet whether there's a basketball game or not, and if you're an attorney, you don't need sports back to have cases to take like people still going to be breaking the law every day. We need sports like our jobs careers likelihood. Are directly tied to Sports I. DON'T WANNA see nobody's routing harder for sports than I am, but like I gotta be up there pretty good, because my my life in some ways in lots of ways depend on sports being. A sports happening as soon as possible. I also not gonNA. Be Dumb. This I'm not GONNA lie. And I guess I could jump twitter every day and say. Really looking forward to that the champions classic, but like I don't think actually I want you to do that, can you? Can You? Pull from Rothstein and starting tomorrow whenever you get up whatever moment it is and just. Say you know I. Don't know how long it is at this point. Hundred three days until champions prospects passed down. Can we get that from you? Can we actually sincerely? Can you just tweet at once? Tomorrow came? Out Nowhere. I promised myself a long time ago I. Will I know the answers, NASDAQ? just just keep it simple. The answer's No. I! Don't think the champions classic is going to be played and so. I'm certainly not ruling out I. Don't speak in absolutes about unknowns in the future, but I think it's unlikely at this point. So I got I'd love to be at the champions. Classic I'd love to just watch it on TV if I couldn't be there, but I'm not optimistic, because like the numbers are spiking all over this country in more than half of our states you. People aren't wearing masks as much as they should. Doing the other things that doctors have told us is necessary to try to get this virus under control so You know there's not a lot of good news out there right now. Other than earlier this week Dr Faculty did say. A vaccine here in the united. States is going well. We're not there yet, but it's going well so far, so that's encouraging, but going well so far doesn't mean it's going to be here in time for the champions classic so. Obviously pessimistic for obvious reasons, but. Don't ever confuse that with I. Don't want sports or don't want basketball, or I'm rooting for the virus. That's just absolutely insane to think. It just. Anything I say about this is just it's. It's because it's what I believed to be the truth. When I say I. Don't think there's going to be non league basketball games tonight because I don't want them. It's because I actually. On the data, available and conversations. I'm having with people in the sport. It's because I don't believe it's going to happen but I promise you. I'd love to be wrong and I am somebody who loves to be right all the time, but on this I would pay a significant amount of money to actually be wrong. I. Listen I. Know You want WanNa rap here. I refuse to let this podcast conclude without including one more other small piece of good news we had this actually saw small. It's humongous and also ties into how badly needed season next season. You know what I'm referring to of course. I, do I mean we have reached a point. It's taken billions of years to get here but depal. Player named Pauli Pauli. Cap Is GonNa play Paul well. He's going to. Enroll at Depaul we need. I can't tell you how badly we need to season. I need a season. I need Pauli Pauli cap in Paul uniform and I need to Paul in the twenty, twenty, one final four. Okay, the the only thing that would be better than that. Is If. John Calipari ever coach cal. Wouldn't that be great? He would be coach Calico cow. Go that'd be. That's good. How many coaches that apply to anyone else that would work for. Is there a there's got to see. Is there a coach? Is Their head coach with the last name Washington? Down I, don't think there is. There's gotta be a Butler somebody in coaching, nobody or That's a good good question there, but regardless Bali, Pali Cap Adamant Hatton ten point four boards six ten point four point six point six bores season negotia forty nine point four percent from the field. I I. Don't know if to Paul was the best fit for this for this young man or not I don't care. He self aware enough to know that he was born Pauli Pauli Cap and hell. Yeah, he's a Grad transfer. He's going to Paul immediately eligible huge news. This week can't shout this guy out I. don't care if there's a Caesar, not he's getting shouted out at random without any sort of advance. Warning on this podcast for the next lunch shots that you Paulie, Politika, it's not like we've never spent a November or December podcasts opening on the Depaul Blue Demons. You're absolutely right. We could be going for that to straight November's in a row. Here. Pauli Pauli cap come into shy town. Love it and I would I would kill for that right now so. Let's all keep our fingers crossed, fingers crossed, and our mask on keep your fingers crossed and keep your mass on Chelsea Davin downey shells to chest it. South Carolina just to Terry M. F. Petillo. To learn now, please go subscribe to the island. College Basketball podcast wherever you subscribe to the podcast I'd appreciate it. norlander would appreciate it. Do that. We will talk to you real soon till them. Pay Friends. I met Alfred I'm Chris Hainer together were the Russell Buddies, a podcast going into the fun parts of professional wrestling. It's a celebration of pro wrestling for fans of all ages. 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