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#07 Cannabidiol (CBD): Hype or Hero?
"You're listening to the curious about cannabis podcast before we get started here. Let me just share a little disclaimer in this episode? We're going to be discussing. The medical uses of cannabis. Now all the information I present to you in this podcast in general is for education and entertainment purposes only and should definitely not be considered medical advice. Please never make decisions about your health based on anything. You hear me or any other podcast host talk about. I'm simply sharing information that I've collected from talking with professionals with relevant experience or from research studies that are available out there that have been published. But I'm not a doctor. You should always get your medical advice from a licensed healthcare professional now with that out of the way. Let's move on these days. Cd's all the hype ladies how everybody is talking about. Cb oil now comes to the cannabis plan and many believe that can help with everything from Zaidi and chronic pain diabetes even cancer. We're in the midst of a CBD oil boom the two thousand eighteen farm bill paved the way for legal hemp production in the United States seeming to open up a multi-billion dollar him market. That was now up for grabs of all the potential surrounding legal hemp. There was one section of the market the head. Everyone's attention and that's the CBD market. It's estimated that over a thousand. Cbd brands came onto the market in two thousand nineteen and it's estimated that approximately a quarter of the US population has tried CBD. Health claims have been boasted and promoted by CD Companies Doctors Entertainers and social media influencers. So what's the deal is C. D? Legit or is it just another snake oil? And what does she actually do to your body in this episode? We explore the history and the science of the canal annoyed. That's currently all the craze nabbed. I'll or as you probably know it. Cbd Hey everybody. This is Jason Wilson with the curious about cannabis podcast. Thanks much for tuning in once again in this episode. We're going to be taking a close look. At one of the most popular tabloid produced by the Cannabis Plant and that's NAPA. Dial or as it's better known. Cbd INTO GUIDE OUR CURIOUS QUEST. We're going to be exploring several primary questions one two how does CBD affects the body and the three what are CBD's potential therapeutic applications as well as some of its limitations risks so without further ado? Let's get started for the past. Few years has been big business. The price of a single one ounce bottle of CBD. Tincture can range anywhere from fifty dollars to two hundred dollars or more. Compare that to the average cost of a one. Ounce bottle of a different herbal extract. Tincture like ECHINACEA or elderberry though typically costs somewhere between ten dollars and twenty dollars but what is CB CB is an oily compound produced in the resins of cannabis plant now whether the canvas plants considered him or marijuana they both producing CD. Typically outside of some uncommon exceptions in the United States. Hemp is classified as canvas plants that contain less than zero point three percent. Thc In other countries limit can be even lower sometimes as low as zero point two percent THC instead of THC which is the primary intoxicating compound found campus varieties. They're often called marijuana. The primary Varieties of cannabis tend to produce is connect dial. Cbd THANKS TO INTENTIONAL. Breeding efforts CB can now be found in concentrations as high as twenty or twenty percent and hip plants intended for CBD rich resin production now CBD's markedly different than thc to start cd doesn't really cause any intoxicating or you work effects like THC. Does this features gotten the attention of a lot of people ranging for medical researchers that want to unlock the potential therapeutic effects of cannabis without the risk of abuse and all the way to consumers that. Just WANT TO CHECK OUT CANNABIS. But they're not looking to get high although CBD is not intoxicating it is psychoactive meaning that it does elicit effects from your neurons in your brain this is a common misunderstanding about CBD. It is psychoactive but it is not intoxicating the story of CBD goes back. Thousands of years as cultures across time have used non psychoactive McGregor. Myself Non intoxicating varieties of cannabis for different uses but the most relevant part of our story really starts in nineteen forty when researchers Roger Adams. Madison Hunt and J. H. Clarke published a report indicating the structure of a compound that they had extracted an isolated from wild hemp and Minnesota shout out to listeners and Minnesota your apart. Cbd History these researchers name this compound cabot dial or CBD as it would become commonly known CD was only the second cannabinoid found cannabis at the time with the first being canaveral or CBN a degradation product of THC in nineteen forty four. It was discovered that the effects of barbiturates could be extended if administered with CD but not with C. B. N. or. Thc researchers didn't understand why this effect was happening and they wouldn't get their answer to almost thirty years later for a moment in nineteen sixty three scientists in Israel would shine light on CBD once again until a year later in nineteen sixty four when they announced the discovery of THC as the intoxicating component of campus after that CD would become a bit more ignored once again until round the seventies and eighties when research into CBD really began to pick up steam in nineteen seventy to be discovered that CBD actually inhibits certain enzymes in the body which affects how the body metabolize certain foods and drugs. This helped begin to complete the puzzle that stemmed from the barbiturates study that was performed in nineteen forty four. Nearly three decades prior that we talked about previously in Nineteen eighty-one researchers were able to demonstrate anti-convulsant effects of CBD and humans indicating that it might be an effective treatment for certain forms of epilepsy and specificity in one thousand nine hundred eighty two year later. Cbd was found Exhibit Anti Anxiety Effects. Which would later be reconfirmed in Nineteen ninety-three in one thousand nine hundred five. It was discovered that CBD improves symptoms of psychosis ended. Nineteen Ninety Eight. The United States government actually filed a patent on the antioxidant neuro protective effects of CBD as well as Thc the two thousands would become the decade of elucidating the activity of CBD in two thousand and one researchers begin to finally understand more about how CBD actually works in the body by revealing that CBD targets non-cabinet receptors in the body that it stimulates the production of at least one. Indo cannabinoid an and denied and it inhibits and enzyme responsible for breaking down and might effectively allowing an to linger in the body longer in two thousand and two researchers would then confirm that CD exhibits anti nausea effects which had already been reported as far back as the eighteen hundreds when systematic cannabis research really began to take shape in two thousand and four. It was discovered that certain dosages. Cbd can increase wakefulness and counteract THC and do sedation. So if you're feeling a little sleepy after using THC cannabis a little bit of CBD Might Wake. You backup however be careful because CBD exhibits. What is known as by Faiza Activity? Meaning it acts differently in low doses versus high doses at high doses. Cbd CAN ACTUALLY BE SEDATING. In two thousand and five it was discovered that CD interacts with certain serotonin receptors in the body and in two thousand six researchers will go on to discover that CD also enhances a denizen receptor signaling which is associated with heart health blood pressure and body temperature regulation was also in two thousand six that researchers discovered that. Cbd Can kill breast cancer cells bringing significant attention to the compound as a potential anticancer drug into thousand seven researchers began to understand why CBD reduced the effects of THC in some of their prior research. It turns out that. Cbd CHANGES THE SHAPE and activity of CB one receptors even though it doesn't really exhibit much affinity for CB wonder sceptres directly in this way. It changes the way that teach actually binds to the CBO interceptor modulating. Its activity this. Kind of activity is called. Alistair modulation this why. Cd's able to reduce the high associated with THC It essentially deforms the CB wonder sceptre so that THC can't elicit same reaction from the receptor when it binds to it in two thousand and eight. It was discovered that. Cbd was a potent antibiotic against Mersa a powerful infection that's commonly picked up in hospitals and often resist treatment in two thousand twelve researchers discovered that. Cbd May be as effective as standard anti psychotics and in two thousand fourteen it was discovered the CD might be able to effectively treat acne in the skin by reducing inflammation fighting bacteria on the skin and changing the way that the skin produces oil in two thousand eighteen in the United States the Agricultural Improvement. Act of two thousand eighteen also known as the two thousand eighteen farm bill was passed which effectively legalised temp across the United States including all of the AIDS and other chemical constituents of all varieties of cannabis had thc concentrations the low zero point three percent and with that CBD was removed from the controlled substances list as long as the CD was him derived. Some may say that the CD market began at this time but really see beauty. Products had already been available in foods cosmetics and dietary supplements widely for years prior to the legalisation of him operating in somewhat of a regulatory gray area and then in twenty nineteen EPA dialects would officially become an FDA approved pharmaceutical for the treatment of certain forms of epilepsy in children the status of CBD as a pharmaceutical drug presents a real problem for the CD industry as a whole the FDA does not allow drugs to be added to foods or supplements unless they've been marketed as foods or supplements previously this is due to a set of laws in the food drugs and Cosmetics Act. Of course the irony is that the CBD industry's been around for quite some time not considering the exposure that humans have had to CD throughout history just from their interactions with cannabis cannabis in all its forms have been prohibited in the US for almost ninety years. So of course cannabis derived products have not been openly marketed and sold in the food drug and cosmetics act was enacted in nineteen. Thirty eight. Right around the exact same time that cannabis prohibition began considering that cannabis was included in the States Pharmacopoeia? For many years. All the way up until prohibition began. It's clear that cannabis derived products had been a part of society well into the Nineteen Thirties. And would have persisted. Had It not been for cannabis prohibition so in the nineteen thirties the opportunity for canvas to mature alongside the food supplement? Industries was effectively eliminated and the only pathway to get federally legal cannabis. Drive products to the public was through pharmaceuticals and now that him derive. Cbd AND OTHER AVENUES ARE FEDERALLY LEGAL. Ninety years later the government argues that it can't be put into food or supplements because it's a drug just seems like an awkward argument when you take the full history into account another argument that the FDA argues for resisting making any exceptions for CD in him derives cannabinoid in foods or supplements that there's not adequate data available to show that CBD is safe. They've argued that CBD could cause liver damage and interact with other drugs and thus it should be researched longer before it's allowed to be widely available to be consumed. The study they cite for this concern is a recent rodent study that looked at dosages that were orders of magnitude higher than the highest dosages used incomparable clinical trials for EPA dialects. I should point out that in this study dosages of fifteen milligrams per kilogram of body weight or less or not found exhibit these toxic effects and that's approximately nine hundred thirty milligrams or just round up to a gram of pure. Cbd for an average sized person. I spoke with Dr Ethan Russo about his thoughts on the idea of CBD causing liver damage. There's some concern lately too. And there's controversy of controversy over some of it but about the liver toxicity of high doses of CBD as well. Well I I think that's a blind alley it'd be truthful obviously Lower dose would be better but The liver issues mainly related to elevations of liver function tests and this is in Generally children Who are in Poly Pharmacy with a number drugs? Particularly of perk acid which is all known for being a bad actor in terms of Ltl avation arm so my strong suspicion is that's related to Poly Pharmacy Multiple Drugs rather than than a specific effect of Canal. Dial should also be noted that the World Health Organization issued a report on CD very recently attesting to CBD's remarkable safety profile at the time of this recording the future of the CBD industries very uncertain as him farmers CD product manufacturers and legislators plead their cases for changes to allow the CD industry to continue operating as it has with CBD foods dietary supplements and cosmetics readily available to consumers and now states are taking matters into their own hands just as they had to do with anything related to cannabis and they're setting their own laws for CD and now there's a patchwork of state legislation across the United States in regards to cbd any State Law protects a marijuana byproduct. That doesn't have mind altering properly inspected. Cbc products are now completely legal in the state and that's good news for farmers and companies who make those products as it essentially creates a new industry here in Ohio the crater question lingering around the FDA's involvement in the industry is whether the FDA will actually take action against these CBD companies today. They primarily seem concerned with going after companies making medical or health claims about CD but that could change in the future but the FDA is always going to go after companies making unapproved medical claims because that's in violation of the dietary supplement health and Education Act of Nineteen ninety-four which made it illegal to make such claims without FDA approval may also hear this rule referred to as DJ. Now this is why you see an FDA statement on every dietary supplement label which says something to the effect of these claims have not been evaluated by the FDA and are not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease and yet we see plenty of medical claims being made about CBD products. It really seems as though the only pathway forward to booming legal. Cbd industry across the country through changes to federal law to allow an exception for CD and other hemp derived natural products. Put any law. Changes that are proposed. Should be carefully worded. Even if CD is allowed in foods and supplements if a law change does not also determine. That CD is generally recognized as safe or grass than there could be another set of problems for the CD industry to tackle food additives like plant extracts and essential oils after have grasped status to be freely added to foods or formulated into supplements until the FDA takes on the role of doing this research and granting grass status to CPA and other cabinet itself. It's going to be up to private companies to do their own extensive research to achieve. What's called self affirmed grass status which only applies to their specific products and not their competitors even if their competitors using essentially the exact same ingredients as essentially makes a playing field. Where only the most well-funded CD companies can survive long term to put this into perspective gathering all the data needed to successfully achieve self affirmed grass status can cost as much is a million dollars or more at a time when the value. Cds A commodity is rapidly shrinking along with CD product margins. This is a difficult task for small or medium sized him companies to pull off without coming together and pooling their resources so okay these Cebu products there on the market. We know people are using them. Despite you know the feedback that the FDA's given so what are people actually experiencing with CBD? Since the two thousand eighteen farm bill was passed. Cbd shops have popped up across the country and even large retail chains. Like Kroger Fred Meyer. Cvs and walgreens starting to carry CBD products additionally specialized him in CD focused wellness. Stores have made their way into neighborhoods in cities across the United States. I spoke with Wendy win. An owner of a premiere CD shop in New York City about her experience operating. Cbd's store in a sense. I think the neighborhood felt like they were on the joining with US versus versus having huge the award redone so they knew they knew all that and they embraced with open arms. You know so. That's something that we are very lucky to have so. In the end I think for Artemis we get clients who are very curious about CBD. With I saw so they want the side. You WanNa know everything or we usually get there. Were there last thought. Would they meet with? Tried everything Detroit going on pain medications. Try going all that it wanted approaching much more of a natural plant based approach and we do get some kinds are in the middle with the China ended. Were coming back for another offer that most likely issue ships at the end that we get you know. And since we've been around now for few months would get off the middle which is try their CD other stores in other for second opinion. And they're coming to US without I opened. It wasn't like that op. Ed We have people who are so supportive and like we lost. Cbd WanNa try it you can see. My mother tried it or my dog right. Yeah anything that the other end of the spectrum where they came to challenge. Which was you know what what are you guys doing the sny. Fda approved at all so we saw the breath of clients that we were getting and you know and we really honestly appreciated the support off so the criticism because helped us grow as brand. That just meant that. We had to read a lot more books. That just meant that. We had to provide a lot more educational tools in the store and we designed the store actually twice to meet those demands right before I Open. Our Education Board was limited mainly because we didn't know what we needed to say as in what was helpful for clients But we did that. Education Board up probably a month after we quit because we realize this was a need that the thing will happen. And also we designed it to have a section where there's books available and as we were developing We started really working closely with Dr Chin. Slow the education side key much more up I think. Full breath a later on at war. Spawning for clients needs and with that being said to will. We redesigned the wall. Titrate was something that people don't understand. There's something I didn't understand when I first started down now and we realize that reading milligrams chew volumes to very very confusing and a Lotta time clients. Come in like I'm taking CD and it's not working and it will go. Kay how how much you taking a whole? What does that mean France? We don't know what was the bottle we don't know so. We realized that the map is fear that there there needed to be a little bit more guidelines on on intake and all that so we designed a section of the shop to be focused tight tradition. Which is that. You know exactly what you're taking with formulation Ran You're taking. And then we started designing a little Serving guides for clients so every time when a client walks away. They're walking away with a serving guy to to to couple with whatever off a so. All of that was really feedback. We've talked all the clients interaction that we had at the beginning of arts. One question that was on my mind when I was speaking with people about cbd was what dosages are needed to actually get an effect CBD products on the market. Have potencies of anywhere from one hundred thousands of milligram per one ounce bottle of oil when I reviewed the available scientific literature found that there wasn't a lot of information. Available EPA dialects clinical trials utilized. Essages a five milligrams per kilogram of body weight up to twenty milligrams per kilogram of body weight or around three hundred ten milligrams to nearly fifteen hundred milligrams for an average sized person in two thousand nineteen. There was a review of dosages that were utilized in published. Cbd Studies and it was found that dosages below around two and a half milligrams per kilogram of body weight were largely ineffective at treating most of the conditions that were being measured except for things like sleep disorders anxiety now that would be around one hundred fifty milligrams of CBD for an average person however the research on CD dosing complicated by the fact that CBD exhibits unique efficacy when it's administered isolation versus when it's administered in the presence of other cannabinoid peens and other fighter chemistry from the cannabis plant many clinicians that. I spoke with commented that they were seeing much better results at lower dosages with broad or full spectrum. Cbd versus isolate. It was interesting when we first started out. We thought half of our patients didn't want THC in their product. This is Dr James Taylor. A pain physician working in. North Carolina ever since hemp became federally legal in the United States. He's been working with his patients to understand how him extracts and CBD particularly might be a tool to help treat chronic pain so we gave him just CBD in the others did one a little. Thc In what we found is are once again in the waiting room the people who were trying the CBD products the ones that had a little bit of THC and had a full spectrum for having profound results. Those that were on the isolate weren't having such profound results so it was in the waiting room that the patients were talking so when they came back to the office visit they said. Hey I don't WanNa take the damn taken. I want to think it was the patients that were coming back telling us that the full spectrum was superior over an isolate so I'm assuming these large doses that folks need with the the deal oxen the CBD isolate is because a inferior product. And you can take much less. If you're taking a full spectrum product I asked Dr Taylor what dosages. He was noticing that his patients were finding relief with and this is what he had to say. My patients tend to be the poor and the elderly. They don't have a lot of money. Sure so we always recommend them to to start low. Go slow riots kind of in the industry. Everybody says that well our patients have to because they can't afford a thousand milligrams model and they've got they can. Were the two hundred fifty milligram bottle in so a lot of our patients tend to find relief in the eight to fifteen milligram A day range and I feel like a lot of that is is financial pressure. That can help. Keep them there Those that seem to be a little bit more successful Typically get up to thirty to forty milligrams a day and I am seeing in very general terms because we have patients with all kinds of different pain problems whether it's a inflammatory component or it's a it's a bone on bone type of pain or a neuropathic type of pain They're all different some generalizations but we have books that are taking two milligrams a day And some that are taking two hundred milligrams a day. So it's very hard for me to say what Milligram Works for folks So I do like to go start. Low go slow in. Just find a really where you're going to settle in but for me that's also we found that also doesn't make sense either because it's the cannabinoid profile That really makes a difference and we started seeing this in our practice. In the we were obtaining a product from a one extractor and then we started obtaining products from another extractor and our patients were having completely different effects. Right used to make me sleep now. It makes me awake and we were Lincoln cash. It's it's the same. No we looked under the hood and looked at the cannabinoid profile and it was a completely different ratio are there was hardly any. Thc In this product and there was nearly point three percent. Thc In this so we started realizing white. Cbd is kind of a In this industry while we've been talking about CBD other minutes easy for the consumer to think like that but it's really cannabinoid bright and it's these ratios cannabinoid. They're important and I think that's what really stimulated us to say. Gosh we have to start looking at this a little differently in but little more scientifically in. It's so much more complex than we realized. Reynosa we did a lot of retrospective data looking at these thousands of patients. We have taken this over the last two years in when we plotted out. It was not anything that we expected. And I wish I could show you an example where we put a positive responders in shades of green and a negative responders to a particular Whether we're talking about sleep or pain or anxiety In shades of red and it was just a mixture of green and red so. Cd's now this wonderful thing. That's going to turn everybody green and it works for everybody. Know it half the people working positively for in the other half. It's working negatively for all different things done. That's when we realized this is very complex Very individualized and I think that's what we started really paying attention To we need to start looking at people's genetics and epigenetics so we understand what they're bringing to the table And then I think eventually at the end of the day it's matching those up a genetics with certain cannabinoid profiles in order to modulate the system to a desired effect. I also asked Wendy would dosages. She was using to manage some of her pain and anxiety symptoms. So I remember I read all the books I said Micra Dunes and so I started with five milligrams. I didn't really feel much on five. Hogan's to newly I had an episode. A really really bad and I so can not working so I just took fifty. I said Yeah fifty which was not a good idea it. It worked wonders. Shifty was incredible. It really helped with my pain I also had a patch onto as well so I was kicking milligrams twice a day as documented and then I realized that after three or four days it stopped working like it perfect then it stopped working out back to Dr Juno Latte and I said what's happening like fifty was gray and the now's not working and she said potentially you might have kept on your tolerance you went. You went up to high now. Your body's just not passing it correctly in that sense and so we're to another formulation from me and that one had empty to L. which I didn't know So my own journey would see. Vdi recorded everything. And I've realized someone needs to. At least give me much more of a helping hand when I first started. And that's why we're so much more careful when it comes to our clients of artists that we really wanted to with the whole time but now. I know what my therapeutic doses whenever episode. I know what that is I would. Just go back to my. You know my microdosing periods after that was perfect and then would I don't need I just don't want to go that high. The frequency of dosing is very important because CBD liked THC lingers in the body and can accumulate over time with repeated dosing so it may be that low dosages of CBD might be effective when taken regularly but when acute relief is required in the moment higher. Dosages may be needed. Some people have a very profound effect after taking it initially and within the first couple days but the majority of my patients don't feel anything For weeks sometimes takes up two months for them to eventually things to start change so it's very subtle in so medicines typically have a very profound effect of It will lower your blood pressure. Your blood sugar do something you know very predictable at a predictable dose and CBD in Cannabinoid Medicine. Right now is kind of the opposite. There is no does we. Don't the the the effects that you're going to get taking? This are not predictable. So I think educating My patients in the community. That don't think of this as a medicine. You know really think it's closer to a nutritional supplement. Then I feel that it is a medicine at this point because we don't understand it we know it's modulating and changing your cabinet system but modulating and changing and in what ways rain-soaked bus yet. So a lot of this is just hit or miss in for me It being a position that's dealing with the OPIOID crisis. I don't have a lot to lose right. Sixty THOUSAND AMERICANS ARE DYING EVERY YEAR. And how we need a Hail. Mary In order for this to you know for our country to change in so for me. It felt good bringing something like this into the practice of medicine because we had nothing to lose It is positively affecting our patients. We are able to reduce their dependency on narcotics. And you know we are slowly getting there. But that's only because my organization is set up like that but for a patient who's on narcotic that just think they're gonNa buy this off the shelf and it's GonNa miraculously work very hard to make this work without having a healthcare professional or nurse that you could call or someone to help guide you through this process. You're going to be lost so clearly. People are having some sometimes profound experiences CD. But how does he did? He actually affect the body like all other cannabinoid. Cbd has not incredibly by available in the body most of the CBD that anyone ingest is simply excreted either unmet metabolize or as what's called a conjugated sugar meaning that a glucose molecule adhere to the CBD molecule as it passed through the body now some of the CD that's ingested sticks to other life affiliated or oil loving tissues in the body like fat which keeps from circulating in the body and reaching sites of action but for those molecules CBD that do make it into the bloodstream and get circulated throughout the body. An interesting series of events begins to take place first of all. It's important to know that. Cbd has a very very low affinity for either CB one or C two receptor. Which as you may remember from episode six of the podcast these are the two primary chemical receptors that make up into Connecticut System. Instead of directly affecting tabloid receptors CD tints to stimulate these receptors indirectly by affecting the production breakdown of Indo cabinets that the body produces on. Its own as mentioned before. Cbd's stimulates the production of Ananta Mine. Which is a partial agonists or stimulator of CB ONE NC two receptors much like thc additionally CD inhibits enzyme called fatty acid. A my hydro lease also known as far or F. A. H. Which would typically break down in the end mine as well as a lot of other things in the body. This allows the anatomy that the body produces to linger in the body longer the stimulating canaveral interceptors for a long time. At least theoretically you could think of this as CD nudging the Indo cabinet system to do its own thing rather than completely hijacking. The system altogether which is kind of what? Thc does that's not to say that the activity of THC is bad or undesirable. It's just very different now. Cbd also interacts with a putative cannabinoid receptor called GP are fifty five the GP are stands for g protein coupled receptor which is the type of chemical receptor. That canaveral interceptors are a little technical vocabulary now G. PR fifty five is thought to be responsible for some. Cd's anti epileptic activity among other things. In addition to these effects on into AIDS and cabinet receptors CD interacts with a lot of other chemical receptors including Vanna later sceptres like tr PV. One Trip v one which are also referred to as kept sason receptors because kept saying the chemical responsible for the spiciness and peppers. Also stimulates van alert receptors. Cbd also interacts with Serotonin receptors commonly associated with mood. Sleep and blood pressure. It also influences the activity of denizen receptors commonly associated with heart health and it also interact with p. p. a. r. Gamma receptors which are linked to insulin resistance and diabetes among other things. In addition to inhibiting enzymes that break down to mine. Cbd also has potent inhibitory effects on a group of liver enzymes called the site of Chrome P for fifty signs which are responsible for metabolising. Many common drugs this inhibitory effect is commonly referred to as the grapefruit effect because grapefruits are well known to cause the same enzyme inhibition. In fact you may have once been prescribed a medication that featured a label on the bottle that cautioned against taking with grapefruit one of the most well known drug interactions with CBD is with a blood thinning drug called warfare. Yes so as an anesthesiologist and pain position as a very heavy into interventional procedures. I'm always concerned about Kundun. To interject for just a second in case you don't know commit in. Is War friend Anna up in? We know that it's metabolism in delivered by the side of the people were the system in. That's with CBD consumers. You should be thinking about that as well And there were some studies out there to say that it could affect some bleeding times but we had not seen that clinically so our patients who were taking this were honor Kundun. Into we got laboratory tests we could not see their bleeding times change so I think theoretically it is possible but I'm not seeing clinically. What we do see clinically. Which could be worrisome. Is that when you are taking a CD product in your stimulating your system which I like to refer to as your inner physician. It's kind of nature's way of keeping balance in healing yourself is. Your Body is starting to heal end. Maybe it is competing with the site across four fifty system for certain drugs plasma levels of these anti hypertensive czar diabetic medications could theoretically be bolstered. A little in with your health becoming Improved we're finding patients needing to get off these medications So a patient Who sticking a blood pressure medicine? We don't recommend them taking her. Cbd At the same time they take their blood pressure. We make we ask them to take that two hours after that So we'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT DIZZINESS. Or dropping one rusher in we really encourage them every patient That gets on. Cd Go to your primary care doctor. First and let them know you're taking this and have them start to monitor your blood pressure diabetics and so you can reduce these medications if you're able to Under their care for consumers to go out and try to do that on their own. I feel is is very risky. So you know that that. We haven't seen any problems in patients. But I feel like problems are just right around the corner if we as physicians aren't monitoring these patients as diligent as you need to. Cbd also has been demonstrated exacerbate the negative side effects of some epilepsy. Drugs like Valpo Acid because of these kinds of interactions. It's important that anyone taking CD with other medications do so under the supervision of a healthcare provider to stay safe one thing. That should be mentioned here. Is that so far? We've been talking about how. Cbd By itself and isolation interacts with the body when CBD is present in a complex mixture like cannabis extract with dozens or hundreds of other compounds or when it's formulated in. A food or topical product with other ingredients effects can be very different. A hint extract product should be judged by the total formulation not just the quality of the hemp extract used as a single ingredient in the product. It's also possible to manipulate the. Absorption and bioavailability of CBD using technologies like Nanno Mulsim was a process of breaking up a CD extract into the tiny tiny droplets the size of nanometer. Which is one billionth of a meter. And then these tiny droplets are surrounded by a little water friendly casing. What this does is it. Allows the oil droplets to remain suspended in an aqueous solution keeps the oil droplets from coming back together to one another. And this is how you make. What's often termed water soluble? Cbd But it's kind of a misnomer. There's really no such thing as water. Soluble CBD really. What's being made is kind of what would be referred to as a call away at something that remains suspended in solution that doesn't settle or rejoin It's not really soluble in water. But I digress. So far we've mostly been talking about how. Cd affects the body when it's ingested or inhaled. But what about the effects of CBD? On the skin there are all sorts of chemical receptors in the skin including cannabinoid receptors. Just like you have in other parts of your body in general when CD's applied to the skin or topically it only affects the area where it's applied exception is when CBD is Applied Trans Termoli usually with a patch these are similar like kept saying in patches or even nicotine patches in their specially formulated with ingredients. That will help carry things through the skin. That normally would have a hard time penetrating if can avenue. It's like CPA can soak through the outer layer of the skin the epidermis and reached the lower layer of the skin the durmus than it could end up reaching blood vessels and then getting into the blood and being distributed throughout the body. But we'll see B D actually help keep your skin healthy right now. Currently in the market. There's much there's a seavy. Beauty focused product star. Willoughby's does usually between oil or a beauty. Serra whatever it is right not necessarily like a clean base like like the treatment Roger that sense so I think a lot of times clients when they have asked me. They are association. Oil means more oil. Right right it's gonNA produce more oil right so right accusations so to break down that association to treat with oil is it takes some time for people to get used to you know if your if your skin issue. I think with fires much more intensive care we do suggest you to internally to take it as a tincture also a method to us. Well Abby. A- I find that to be romy percent the best approach as much as we advocate taking it for time and then stopped me. I did that myself. I took it for eight months straight and then I stopped taking two months to see what were wise and all that and the first thing. That was my skin by really. Oh yeah very like that was the first thing I noticed my skin wasn't as Halsey was as a internally glowing not like internally glowing As it was when I was on it that was my outside of the pain. Management course at that was my biggest motivator nowadays whenever meet people that was the first thing they say that your skin looks naturally low in honestly nothing's changed but my just the incorporation of CD my life to with you so you can see that. Cbs activity in the body is diverse and complex. We still don't understand the whole picture yet. And don't let anybody tell you otherwise yet despite our lack of knowledge about CBD evidence does seem to indicate that it's a pretty safe compound even if some regulatory agencies disagree. I've seen a lot of people. Conflate even an presentations at conferences can flay the side effect profile of pure. Cbd At high dosage to see bb in general. And that's not a fair comparison. I would save a Connecticut. Dial despite its many complex mechanisms of action is an extremely safe drug with very few adverse events the most common adverse effects associated with CBD or things like lethargy appetite disruptions and gastro intestinal distress. But everyone reacts to things differently and an uncommon cases. Some people may react unfavourably. Cbd just like they might anything else but like THC. It's incredibly difficult if not impossible to overdose or die from using CBD at extremely high dosages of fifteen milligrams per kilogram of body weight or higher. It is possible to cause liver damage with CBD but it's also very uncommon for anyone to ever take dosages that high to put this into perspective that equates to a dose of around one gram of pure cbd for someone that weighs around one hundred and forty pounds or sixty two kilograms for someone like myself that weighs closer to two hundred pounds that does have be closer to grandma and a half or fifteen hundred milligrams of CBD to put this issue into better perspective. Consider THAT MOST CD. Products readily available in the market have serving sizes feature doses of between five and fifty milligrams of CBD According to the Safety Data Sheet for EPA DIALECTS CBD is tolerated well in humans orally at dosages up to fifteen hundred milligrams per day based on the history of research that exists. It's clear that. Cbd has a lot of potential as a medicine. Research indicates it may be effective at treating things like anxiety. Depression sleep various forms of specificity pain. Bacterial Infections and inflammation. When it comes to skin treatment it might be effective in battling acne and regulating inflammation of the skin. It is true a lot more research is still needed to understand how to best unlocked therapeutic potential CD but it's clear that CD is certainly not another snake oil but like many things there's a lot of nuance around the topic. One of the big issues that needs to be understood as what dosages are needed to elicit therapeutic effects while we have a pretty good understanding of what dosages not to exceed to stay safe. We don't have a clear picture of what dosages to shoot forward to achieve targeted therapeutic effects under different conditions this is why many consumers of CBD are leaving it up to trial and error to find the dose that works best for them and then of course the other sneaky problem is at would dosages CBD actually active and which dosages are people mostly just experiencing placebo effects. This is a problem that plagues cannabis research. Broadly and we need to understand these issues. Better course another side to the puzzle is if people are experiencing placebo effects than is that necessarily a bad thing considering the safety profile of CBD. My personal opinion is Maybe it's not such a bad thing as long as you're not breaking the bank to get CD in the first place and this brings us back around to where we started in that CD products currently. You're heavily inflated in value although the CB market is rapidly devaluing and we should see the prices of a lot of CD products. Come much more in line with traditional herbal supplements in years to come. I think it's also critical to acknowledge that. Cd is not a wonder drug. It provides relief for some people facing certain conditions. But it doesn't help everyone in fact in some research. Trials CD actually exacerbated symptoms like seizures. Specificity in some people as we've discussed before on this podcast. There's no such thing as a magic bullet drug natural product or plant. That's going to provide nothing but positive benefits to all people all of the time. That's just not the way things work however clearly. Cbd HOLD SOME SERIOUS POTENTIAL. So let's briefly review. We've learned we've learned that. Cd is a common can have found hemp varieties of cannabis. But it's found in most varieties of cannabis in general varying concentrations. Cbd's not intoxicating THC is however it is psychoactive because it does affect neurons research into CBD really took off in the nineteen seventies and eighties but researchers didn't really begin to understand how CD affected the body until the early two thousands see but he doesn't interact with cannabinoid receptors very much directly but see but he does interact with cadaver interceptors indirectly by stimulating. The production. Of Mine in inhibiting the INS. I'm far or F. A. H. That would typically break into my down. Cbd Interacts with a host of other chemical receptors. In the body including miscellaneous g protein coupled receptors Fanta Lloyd receptors serotonin receptors denison receptors and gamma receptors and there are others interacts with as well. Cd inhibits enzymes in the liver that are responsible for breaking down many common drugs which can lead to elevated concentrations of those drugs in the body because of this. It's important to communicate with your healthcare provider if you're taking. Cd ALONG WITH OTHER MEDICATIONS. That may be affected. By the grapefruit effect is generally well tolerated by most people at dosages as high as one thousand five hundred milligrams per day common side effects include lethargy gastrointestinal distress and appetite changes at dosages above fifteen milligrams per kilogram of bodyweight liver. Damage could begin to take place the L. D. Fifty of CBD is thought to be somewhere about two hundred milligrams per kilogram of body weight or over twelve grams of pure cd for an average size person. Cbd's exhibited promises a medicine to treat things like epilepsy anxiety. Depression material infections pain inflammation and ACSI among other things but more research is needed to properly understand exactly what CDs effective at treating and at what doses currently the only CD pharmaceutical approved in the United States is drug called EPA dialects for the treatment of certain forms of epilepsy in children. In other countries you could also find. Tvd in the cannabis dried pharmaceuticals which features a standardized cannabis extract with equal parts CBD and THC CD's seems to be most effective at dosages above two and a half milligrams per kilogram of body weight or above around one hundred fifty milligrams for an average person. Though there is evidence that some people may find relief at much lower dosages the form of C B D can affect its efficacy and every clinician. I spoke to recommended broader full spectrum. Cbd Extracts over isolates and that it's best to start at a very very low sub clinical dose and slowly. Titrate your way up until you find your minimum effective dose so is CBD Hero. Her just hype. Well it certainly seems that for some CD is very much a welcome hero. There's no question that it's an effective treatment for some conditions for some people it can be quite safe and it could help treat a wide variety of conditions without getting people high however. I must point out that research has indicated that. Cbd tends to be much more effective in the presence of Thc so as TAC FREE CD products at the market. Keep in mind that those products might not be as effective as a product that contains at least a little bit of THC but for all of the promise of CBD. There's still a lot of unfounded hype for consumers to Wade through. It's critical that consumers pay attention to the quality of CBD products as well as the dosages many CBD products feature incredibly low concentrations a CD that are likely sub therapeutic in addition CB products can be quite expensive leaving consumers paying out fortunes for low potency sub therapeutic products and this trend is unlikely to go away anytime soon. Knew HIM HBEXTRACT products featuring other lesser known contaminates like CBGB'S CBC and CBN are already quickly gaining market buzz. And it won't be long before CD passes the hype torch onto these other tabloids. And with that. I'm your host Jason Wilson. Thanks so much for listening. Stay curious and take it easy. Thanks to our guests that were so gracious and spending time with me for interviews. That helped construct not just this episode but other episodes throughout the season to check out the citations for this episode. And there are plenty. 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94 | Is CBD legal & finding a high quality CBD with Meg Kramer
"Welcome back to the real talk with Dana podcast where we talk all things. Nutrition health fitness and mindset with a healthy side of sarcasm. I'm your host Dana Montes sees of real food with Sina nutritionists and body image coach teaching women how to heal their relationship with food and their bodies ditch the Diet cycle for good and truly thrive thrive with real food one delicious meal at a time. Hey It's me and we're back again in for another episode again all about CBD on the real talk with Dana podcast. This is episode number ninety. Four I'm your host Dana of Veasley and we are going to be talking about the second part of CBD Today we're GonNa be talking about the legality of CBD and drug testing and all that good stuff but before we get it there today a couple of updates for you guys of fun. Things that have either just happened in the last week or that are coming your way so I finally after a month. Hay only took me. That long. took up this post but hey it's here. I finally got up the first part of my Bali travel guide so in this part. I'm talking about all of the restaurants. Mr Aunts and delicious eats that we had while we were having around the island in the islands next to Bali. So if you want to check that out. It's on real food with DANA DOT com. I'm pretty sure I included about forty restaurants that we ate at while. We were in Bali and long story short. It was not hard at all to find gluten free and delicious Michigan Food in Bali. So make sure you check that out and then a lot of you have been asking yes. I am taking new clients so if you are interested in working together on some digestion then got or homeowner issues without slipping back into the kind of Yo-yo dieting cycle or just feeling like you're on and off the wagon constantly while trying to figure this stuff out because unfortunately even when you're trying to work with therapeutic elimination diets to deal with some of these conditions. That is kind of what happens if you do it on your own without support and you have a history of Yo Yo. Dieting like most of us do so. If you're interested in learning more about working together just shoot me an email. It's real food with Dana at G MAIL DOT COM And I will be sure to get back to you other thing to look forward to in terms of fun things coming on the blog is I am working on some fun giveaways coming up for the holidays with you guys and I'm also going to be working on a holiday gift guide that I do each year with a bunch of like sales and discounts on all of my while not all of them a lot of favourite products products and services. That I've been able to snag for you guys so a lot of fun things coming. Look for all of that over on the blog at real food with Dana Dot com again. And and now let's talk about some CBD if you guys have any questions on last week's episode or if you still have more questions about CBD after this part or to episode because again this is part two so make sure you listen to last week's episode episode ninety three where we really talked about like the basics of CBD WANNA one. If you have more questions send them through the podcast question submission on my website or you can send me an email. Send Medina on instagram. Whatever you want to do to get in contact with me because if you guys have more questions I wanna get someone on the podcast? Who is an expert like meg to answer them still? Please let me know the last time we were mostly talking about like the basics of cbd one a one and what seaweed beady even is the most common uses of it The different forms that it comes in and then we talked very specifically about labelling and CD and what to kind of avoid on labels for CD if you're looking for a high quality product so say a consumer like your eye or any of the listeners is going out to to search out a high-quality CBD product. What are some things that you look for to tell if a product out there is actually of high-quality quality so there are several things that I tell people to look for and these are recommendations that are especially geared towards first-time CD shoppers? But I think this is good advice for anyone. If you're you know maybe you've been using a brands but you're thinking of changing it up So the first thing I'd say is if you're looking at a new brand look for their return policy or some kind of satisfaction guaranteed because even a very high quality leap brand may not work for everyone so most of the really Reputable companies out there do do offer a pretty reasonable return policy especially for first time buyers. So I'm usually look for at least thirty day satisfaction guarantee If if they say thirty days but only for unopened products. That doesn't really help you or give you a chance to try it so I look for that return policy look carefully make sure or that. They have a no questions asked you know thirty day at least guaranteed the second thing that I look for. Is there a two points. It's really three points of transparency. They look for one is looking for a certificate analysis certificate of analysis for the finished which products a lot of companies will show a certificate for the CBD ingredient that they use but most CD oil products. That you're going to be shopping for are made of. CBD BLENDED WITH A carrier oil for a tincture or blended with You know a different ingredients to make a gummy or difference Other ingredients to fill a capsule or you know so on and so forth so you WanNa make sure that the certificate of analysis is for the specific product that you're looking for as much as possible. I like to look for the most complete certificates of analysis possible. Also that'll include not only cabinet potency testing which can be hard for people to interpret if they're not used to looking at this kind of information but at least least having it there is a show of good faith so look for the date to make sure it's recent I if it's more than a year old that's a little bit of a warning consign. You might be able to reach out directly to the company and get something more recent but if they're keeping those things updated on their website. That's a really good sign You might also see testing for the pesticides for turbines for heavy metals. The more complete. They're testing the more that shows that they're really committed to transparency I also looked to see if they are open about where their hemp comes from and how it's grown so so if they're talking about you know we source our hemp from from Colorado from Kentucky. Those are really promising things if they're specific about about the source if they're Specific about how it's grown you know. Either we source our hemp from. USDA certified vite organic farms or we use we work with local farmers who are very transparent about their growing practices. Just the more information the better And as a general rule the companies that are using really high quality hemp. That's a selling point. So it's not something they want to keep the secret I I also like to look to make sure that the brand is transparent about where they're located like. Is there a physical address address anywhere on the website. If you can't find one that is a bad sign I actually was going back and looking at some of our attesting in data from last year and I noticed that there is a really strong correlation between brands. That don't tell you where they're located and poor test results so it makes sense when you think about it but that's also not necessarily something that a consumer is going to think to look for So those are the things as far as accusing a reputable brand you also can look for online reviews and see what other other consumers have had to say about the brands And and then the other two things that I tell people to look for and we spoke about this a little bit before in our previous conversation is comparing the potency of the product and into the price per milligram. CB So You know if if a bottle is one ounce but it only contains two hundred hundred and fifty three hundred milligrams of CD. That's not a very potent product. So every if it's a tincture every dropper full is going to be fewer than ten milligrams of CB that might be exactly what you want. You might want to be doing a micro saying regimen but if you look for more potent product you're going to be able to use fewer drops. Make It last longer over time. Spend a lot less money In the final thing is to look at whether the product contains THC eat and we spoke before about differences between CD isolate that full spectrum and broad spectrum. So it's really a question of whether whether you want to have that small amount of THC to take advantage of the entourage fact fact or if you want to UCD isolate to avoid having thc for whatever reason like maybe maybe you're very sensitive to teach huge. See maybe you're concerned about drug testing and I. I know we're going to talk about that a little bit. More but That's something that is I think. Important for people look for and that should be something that you can find in the certificate of analysis awesome. Well I feel like we have armed people with a lot of do things that they can both look for and that they can go positively towards or try to avoid so what I really WanNa talk about on this. This episode is all of the legality around. CBD Because now that we've talked about what CD is what teach. Is You know all of the different things that I've mentioned and and we've talked about what to look for what to kind of avoid if you're looking for a high quality product. None of this matters if it's not legal right and you don't want to get in trouble or say you get drug tested for your job. And we're we like you said we are GonNa talk about that after this first part of talking about. CBD So what about the law when all of this comes into consideration like is CBD legal CBD is legal at the the federal level in the United States. The two thousand eighteen farm bill contains several provisions that dealt specifically with him it changed the federal definite definition of hemp to specifically say that it's defined by the quantity of if thc by weight so any any cannabis plant that contains less than point three percent sent teach see is considered him In the past the definition was kind of complicated and a little bit convoluted it had to do with stocks and stems and seeds and flowers and so like in one plant some parts of it could be considered him and some parts of it were considered marijuana so it was it. It was very complicated before and so the farm bill really clarified that it also specifically included derivatives of of the plants in the definition of hemp so an extract like CBD as long as. It doesn't go over. The legal amounts of THC is considered hemp hemp and it is legal so the farm bill changed the definition of hemp and it amended the controlled Substances Act to say that hemp as defined here is not a controlled substance it's not included on in the controlled substance scheduling at all so That meant meant that in the past the DA had determined that hemp was under their purview. Even though that was very hotly contested contested this was this was the stance that the. Da took so now the DA clearly is not what's in charge of him. Hemp is under the authority of the FDA and the USDA so other federal level hemp and CBD. Our legal as long as they don't go over the limit of THC the issue right now. Is that On a state by state basis the states I do have the option to create their own regulations for hemp for CBD and The the USDA is has also been charged with developing its own rules and regulations which will apply if the state doesn't create their your own the USDA hasn't done that yet so there is some states like I believe it's Utah has seized seized. Kemp shipments have flour coming through their state. Just you know going from I believe Colorado to Oregon or three something like that passing through Utah. The truck gets pulled over. Everything is confiscated. The arguments is that let's USDA hasn't released its regulations so for now Utah State laws. Stand so you do have to be a little bit careful right now that you're are in a state that is friendly to cbd so there are really only a few at this point that have These sort of rigorous laws concerning CBD the trend in the past. Really since the passage of the farm bill has been that one st after another is creating its own agricultural him program and specifically saying that. CBD is legal and is not considered considered substance in the states But it is important to know what the laws are in your state because mm depending on where you live. Even from locality to locality from county to county the way that law enforcement interprets the existing laws can vary very quite a bit and so there is a little bit of risk if you're in a location that is not it's friendly to cbd and then where can people go to find out out what the laws by state are We have an interactive map on our website that we keep pretty updated. I actually actually just updated it last week. With a lot of the new laws that have passed this year And there are there are a number of resources is There are more resources available concerning medical marijuana laws. There aren't a lot that specifically look at him. But I mean you can really just google all. Is hemp legal in Kansas hemp. Illegal in New York and is CBD legal here and you'll be able to find a pretty you robust body of commentary on the subject And I would say just if you're if you're googling just make sure that you're looking at content of his dated as recently as possible because these things are changing every day so I I I live in Maryland and I was looking on the CD hacker like state by state thing. And so even though I've now done the research to find out. Is it legal in Maryland. I don't really understand what the terms mean. So if you could help me and the listeners understand that would be great. So it says Maryland has medical cannabis. Okay understand that and an industrial hemp pilot program. What does that mean the industrial hemp pilot program? It is is terminology. That's left over from the two thousand fourteen farm bell when the the that law created the possibility Haas ability for states to create an industrial hemp pilot program to investigate the feasibility of hemp agriculture. In their state so the the terms were kind of loose and not extremely clearly defined but basically it created the opportunity for states to create the agriculture programs and usually although not always that has included some kind of provision for extracts flakes. CBD Just in general. And I don't know if this is a federal or if it's different state by state but is there a difference in the legality of CBD if it's like a tincture or oil versus topical 's versus like food or drink products but CBD the FDA hey is charged with regulating things like food beverages beauty products the FDA has not released like the USDA with the agricultural guidelines the FDA is working on their guidelines for a four CD and other cabinets they have have not updated their stance their current stance is that CD as a as a drug As an ingredient is not legal with the exception of EPA dialects. which is the seizure medication that has FDA the approval so there is yes? There is kind of a gray area. It's more on the manufacturer's side or the restaurant side the cafes side. It's you know if you put a few drops. CBD tincture in your coffee. The FDA isn't gonNA come knocking on your door because you're not distributing it to the world but Yeah manufacturers that are reporting a CD chocolate for example are waiting eagerly to see what the FDA ends up saying about the legality of using CBD as an ingredient. Okay 'cause I was just in an. I'm sure it's legal there but I was just in Colorado for a wedding last month and they are these like dispensaries which I don't really understand them but I know there's room for medical marijuana and there's also a room for CBD and like products And there was also another room for THC products so assuming a place like Colorado or Oregon Dan or Vermont or something like this. It's definitely legal. But there's probably than a reason why those kinds of places don't also exist in say like Maryland or New York arkwright well specifically regarding food and beverages. It's sometimes surprising What the state regulators have to say okay For example in California that California health department. I believe it was late last year. Released an opinion that CBD was not legal to add foods at food and beverages. So even though You know there's a robust recreational cannabis industry three in California. The health department has its own Obligations to the public and so they were looking gain at this new ingredients that has become available and was becoming very popular. And they're saying like Whoa the FDA did not approve this. You can't put this in food in your restaurant So there are issues like that. I believe it was a Massachusetts has had a similar issue. And what's happening. Is that in some states. The state legislatures are deciding to take it into their own hands and specifically say that. CD is legal as an ingredient in that state Which means that manufacturers or restaurants in that state could sell it? But you couldn't ship it to a different state because then it's under the. FDA's purview again. And they still still haven't approved CBD as ingredient so if if any of your listeners are looking at you know small business owners who want to incorporate CBD as an ingredient radiant. I would say definitely talk to an attorney. WHO DEALS CANNABIS LAW? Yeah because you don't want to invest in something And then have all of your product confiscated so just be careful know your laws know what the risks are and there are certainly the companies that seem to be thriving with CD infused food and beverages. So talk to your lawyer. Yeah definitely and then I. I guess this is more of a medical question. But is there like I. I've gotten this question on instagram. So is there an over the counter versus prescription. CBD While yes there is epilepsy. which is a Prescription medication occasion That is prescribed for the on label. Use is for rare childhood seizure disorders. That are very hard to treat. It is possible for doctors to prescribe it for off. Label uses as well So yes that's the prescription. CBD that's available right now Every other CBD product that you can just buy on the Internet is over the counter by defaults so so yeah you do see companies. He's saying that they use pharmaceutical grade. CBD I say that with air quotes of and I don't know if that you know that sounds like marketing to me. I don't know if there are rigorous standards that they are observing in their remanufacturing that make it pharmaceutical grade. I would you know if you're curious. Just ask the company's representatives to clarify what they mean by pharmaceutical grade right and and then I guess your answer will be this varies state by state. But I'M GONNA ask it anyways. can practitioners recommend CBD legally like other practitioners. Oh so can I in Titians or I'm sure people get it from like chiropractors and stuff like that. Well it's not a controlled substance federally. So I I don't think there would be illegal issue with that. That's not something I've looked into to be honest I. I know that it's definitely become popular with breath massage therapists with you know people in a lot of different wellness industries I have not heard of anyone having legal issues from recommending. CBD TO CLIENT. But I can't tell you that there would never be any the issue does yes no. That was good. Well I mean it's one of those things where we just. It's such a new industry that we don't know. Oh all of the answers so I think it's fine to have an answer of like well. We haven't had any issues yet or I haven't heard of any issues yet but that doesn't mean that they haven't occurred right. I mean I'm sure if there are practitioners that are in Utah Right. They're probably GONNA get cracked down on. And this is something that I wanted to bring up. That people need to be careful about as well because there are all of these people all over the Internet that are promoting you know. CD for everyone. Whatever but then as a consumer humor you need to be really careful to look at? What are the laws of your state because say you're following someone or you know whoever they are it lives in California Colorado Oregon any of these places is and they're recommending? CBD that's fine for them to recommend in their state but they might not know they don't know where you live and you might live in red red state or somewhere that CD's not allowed so you kind of have to take the responsibility back into your own hands and do your own research before. You're like well this person said that I can have CBD so again this is just me ranting again about paying attention to where you're getting your health information from absolutely and You you know see media is really a tricky subject because there is a lot of misinformation there. There are a lot of people who I think have very very good intentions but get very excited about Something that they read. And maybe haven't researched very early. Ron So you see people who are like who are out there like You know giving advice in in groups to people about how to use CBD to cure cancer and that is not a proven application of CBD. There is research going on right now into using DVD in various cancer treatments. But I don't think those researchers are just buying random over the counter. CBD products and telling patients to take a few drops and see what happens these are processes that are researching very specific technologies and delivery Greece systems. That aren't available to general consumers so definitely watch out for over the top health claims anecdotally totally for most people. CD is not magic. It doesn't make a huge dramatic difference some some people for some people. It really seems to most people don't seem like they're not even sure whether it's really working until they stop taking it and and symptoms return and you know that like maybe the anxiety just kind of gradually decreases as more manageable all or the pain gradually decreases and is more manageable and then when they stop taking the CBD it comes back and that's when they see the difference but it's not for most people it doesn't solve everything. It's more of a kind of support while you work on other issues. One really big question that I know we wanted to touch on. Is I know there are a lot of people that get drug tested for either their job or they work in the government vermin or they work for the military for those people is CBD safety us do not use e if you are in the military there is no protection for you if you use CBD in here in the military the the the military has specifically said it is not okay. Okay for you to use CD. So I have seen it for people who work in law enforcement. For example some some specific locations have officially said we don't consider CBD to be a controlled substance. Our law enforcement agents are free to use it but that can vary a lot so Definitely know the policies of your employer And be aware that even CBD products that say that they're THC free may contain very teeny tiny traces of THC that build up in your body over time and can cause a person to fail a drug test. I would generally say personally personally because I'm sort of risk averse if if there is a possibility that you could lose your job for failing a drug test and if you I know you're subject to drug testing I would not a CB would not be the first thing. I would try different. You know different issues I i. I would be extremely extremely cautious to use under those circumstances. Yeah yeah probably a very safe advice. And there's been some debate about so drug testing actually looks for the for teach metabolite so these are the byproducts of your body processing. THC specifically drug tests. Do Not at this time look for CBD or any byproducts of CBD metabolism but there are even though drug tests aren't specifically typically looking for CBD. There are some. There's been some research that has suggested although not proven that it is possible for CBD as its digested to somehow go through a process where teach metabolites are created. And I do not really understand the chemistry of this and this is in an experimental environments environments that was meant to recreate the conditions of human digestive system. You know this isn't something that's been studied extensively in an actual human bodies but You know there is a possibility that even CD isolate pure CBD with not each C- could could produce the metabolites that would cause you to fail a drug test. Yikes make the. Maybe you know like this is based on one and study. So I don't want to say like yes. You will definitely fail a drug test if you take. CBD Lots of people take CD islip products and don't fail drug tests. But if it's your livelihood on the line I would be very very very careful and just because Your state has medical marijuana laws or your state has legalized CBD. That doesn't protect you as an employee and and I would also say if you're if you have the potential to be drug tested for other reasons like if you are in pain management program that it's might require you to take drug tests that you should definitely talk to your your provider or your you know your doctor or whoever is a helping you with that and talk to them about. CD Talk to them about what happens if you if you take a drug test if you fail if it finds to see if they can work with you because that's that's definitely a risk for some people who are dealing with with severe chronic pain. Yeah for sure. was there anything else that you wanted to touch on that. Maybe we forgot in the last episode. Yeah let me. I'm looking through my my notes. Oh I did want to come back to dosage. Oh yeah right so I I went back and I looked at my trustee reference. Books You you know I like to defer to actual healthcare practitioners when it comes to dosing recommendations so I can give you more specific like numbers. This is still a pretty broad range so a standard dose for most people would be somewhere in the at the low end end ten milligrams a day to at the high end one hundred milligrams a day of CBD and their conditions that the require higher doses and there are people who have anecdotally a lot of success with microdosing regimens where taking much smaller amounts or tiny amounts multiple times a day But generally it seems like That when win you are I starting to see and you're trying to figure out what your optimal doses starting around that unitaid milligrams a day giving it few days up two weeks seeing if you feel any difference and then increasing slowly as needed is a pretty accepted way to start. I think that's a little more precise than what I offered. Last time so And and then you know if you're getting up into much higher doses like at up into a hundred milligrams a day two hundred turned milligrams a day. The those doses are getting pretty high. So I would definitely say you know if you're getting into that range work with your doctor And just make sure that you're not going to be experiencing interactions with any other medications And make sure that that you're getting the care that you need and if there's anything else that you need to do due to deal with whatever issue you're trying to treat with. CBD that you know you're making whatever appropriate adjustments to your life that you need to be making right. Yeah I mean. CBD shouldn't be the only thing that you're trying say it's if we're taking CBD to help with sleep brings -iety or whatever it is or even pain management. It's not like you said before it's not the magic pill it's not like the golden ticket. It's not going to fix all your problems and it's also also I mean for some people. It's definitely just putting a band aid on the problem right. It's kind of like taking a seedbed fan or an aspirin or whatever. It is to just kind of mask the symptoms of what you're dealing with. It's not actually going to cure the problem that you're taking the CD four. So it can definitely be Lee be a Supplemental product that you can take in addition to trying to manage your anxiety and other ways trying to manage your sleep and other ways all all those kinds of things but it's not GonNa fix all your problems if you do it alone generally not. Yeah I mean if if you have a seizure disorder order and CBD is the thing that helps you with your seizures. Then absolutely I. I don't want to I don't want to go too far in saying that it making it sound like. CD doesn't really help people. Because for some people it really is a thing that makes a huge difference and we're still learning about how how it how it works in the body and how it can be used to address different conditions so it but the majority already people who use CBD use it for for sleep for anxiety for pain. And I think that these are all really complex issues news and things that generally speaking most most Physicians wouldn't say if you're having anxiety issues to only take medication they would say you know. Look at lifestyle modification You know look at therapy. Look at different ways to to deal with breath with anxiety so just like anything else. A complex problem will likely have a complex Approach approach to dealing with it. But you know there are other things where it like maybe your experiencing some kind of change in your life. That's throwing things a little bit out of whack like. I just started a much more intense workout program. CBD is helping me manage the pain like the things that I'm doing into my muscles that they haven't had to deal with in a while so I've I've upped my. CBS Take a little bit and added topical to manage that for myself. And that's you know I'm not planning to keep this hires. CBD Doshi dosage going forever. It's just helping me kind of adjust to to a change so I think is very very useful for things like that definitely. Well thank you again for coming. Please let people know where they can find you they can find. CBD Hacker all of things if they want more information about cd yet so you you can find CBD hacker it's CBD Hacker Dot Com. I'm on twitter the the underscore meg Kramer Summer M. E. G. M. Er And I'm I'm going to send you a few just a short list of some books and other resources resources would that be something you could share this. Yeah I could put that in the show notes. okay yes. Oh I'll I'll give you some recommendations for books if people want to get more indepth indepth and get information from You know doctors and nurses who work in medical cannabis and have much more specific recommendations about using cbd you for specific conditions. All right that is it for this week's episode again if you guys have any more questions about cbd let
Adita Lang on Self-Care SuperPowers | Selfie Episode 104
"Hey Everyone I'm Sarah James a beauty blogger and self help aficionado. And I'm Kristen. Howard Tan a writer and psychotherapist? And you're listening to Selfie a weekly podcast podcast about two women trying to tackle better care. We're both the opinion that self care is important and yet we find it elusive and while we may have all the Info we need. We don't always get there from the the silly to the serious. We are taking a vulnerable yet. Humorous look at body mind and spirit and maybe a touch of the random. All my looking at the distractions and defensive. Listen from caring for ourselves like shut you guys. Well today we're GONNA be chatting with a detailed Lang. She is a nutritionist. The health coach. And she's the author of a new book called Superpowers Busy Woman's Guide to health and happiness and we are going to be talking about what she calls are self healthcare superpowers which I could use right about now. Yeah I am here with Claire. And we're going to do a quick self-care check in Clare. Houser self-care going. You know every day is just a new day okay a new day. I'm actually kind of coming off of being sick. Yeah I We spent the weekend and in San Diego and say weekend. We spent an evening in San Diego and my husband was a little bit sick and I thought he was just being weak and then the next day I got sick. Oh so I'm like like returning to my normal self today but I'm also giving it the old college try. I am going to be quitting dairy. Oh since day one so it's going great tae-won you know what what made you decide that for a long time. I've known that dairy was probably something I needed to cut for my diet. I tend to just be more inflamed person. Yeah T to highly vascular. Yeah and even back in the day when I was in school for skin Fifteen twenty years ago. That was a hot topic just about how dairy affects. Our skin are digestion and even like at the cellular level is just not something we really should be. Yep Ingesting it as often as as we do That's right. Yeah not as much as we do and I'm really not a fan of like cutting things out completely. Having mounds is really important. That's where I failed before. Hi It's as the cut it off completely right and then I would been Dzhokhar. Live with all we did that. One time member. Yeah so I'm just I'm going to definitely still eat butter letter K.. I cook with a lot But as far as milk products and Sour cream ice cream things. I do eat often Agata. I eat sour cream like four days a week really. It's like one of my favorite condiments. How interesting so we'll see how it goes? I mean there's a lot of different things you can. I mean the is so hot right now especially if you were. We're so lucky that we go to grocery stores. There's so many options some just gonNa see kind of how it makes them feel. Yeah a lot of people that I know who stopped eating dairy rave about feeling about. Oh I agree I mean so. We'll we'll see. Maybe it's why maybe I'll just as the same. Well I'm excited to hear I've gone up dairy at different points in my life and it has definitely only make me feel better. I'm interested to in like I was. This is going to speak to your life right now but in the last like two weeks. I've been very like mucus. Yeah quite sick but there's something happening. I'm wondering if you will help that too. I think it does help with a sustained way into how are you feeling. Well one minute. Though on the non on dairy thing I have to say there are some really good like fake milk's out there. Yeah oat milk yet everybody. I never tried it. It's so good. I will say when Bummer but oh milk is it's not low calorie okay. But it's really delicious. Just sound so growth sound gross. But it's really good and then I don't minds soy milk or almond milk like I really. I like those I can do almond and I can do those ice creams so I mean as we're talking about this. I'm pretty low dairy person. Okay I don't do ice cream I I'll do all these Cheese as the one thing. I'll do because I feel like you can't. There's no fake cheese he's like you can fake. If I find email can fake you know a lot of staff but you put enough sugar in behind. PICCI's like fake yogurt. I I've had coconut. Yes I see. I'm bound yogurt. That was good. I think that's a really good are the coconut milk there by the company. Soy something which now is also coconut. Something yes you're now the yeah. Yeah the coconut. Milk is mini ice cream sandwiches. Really good really. Yeah Yeah Well I. I am presently on a steady diet of Halloween candy. Our kids got so much frigging studio much like. I'm meeting the Mars believable. Yes so clear and I live in the same neighborhood. We have one neighbor every much to say on this every year. It's been posted a video. Yeah I did was on my instagram. So we have these neighbors who every year they do at ten PM. They feed their snake alive mouse which is really cool. I I mean it's the kids frigging love it love it. You know it's just. It's a very neighborly. Sort of like tradition. I love traditions things that pull the neighbors together. It's very SCIENC- The way she explains she is an animal advocate. Yes she ends she She is not letting them leave until they've learned something about snakes and mice Ami lutely she is giving a lesson little pedantic but and then she has them say a prayer for the mouse at a circle of life and then they watched the snake is. It's it's really cute. But anyway they went hog wild for Halloween. I mean they decorated so much actually had on display her dead cat who she had raised driving stride not tax tax increase right so her dead cat was sitting out on top of a Cat like what do you call it like a cat. Giant action carpeted jungle. I didn't actually believe you or Chad when you told me that. That's what that was. Yeah that's okay yeah You know and I mean it's super sweet. It's so sweet what they did. But they had so many full-sized candy bars and then By the time like the end of the evening as the snake feeding is winding down. There like take them all so my kids came home with each of them about twenty full size candy ars in addition to bags and bags of the regular Halloween Candy. Yeah it's absurd and then my kids got really really the right word to describe this. They separated Burrito all their candy. Oh Yeah into sub category. Yes like I've never seen my kids be so frigging Organi occur and then they were trading they were trading cares put hers in Rainbow Order Loyd give order and then it's too so talk to us. I mean she was like in it to win it. She came home midway through the tonight and changed costumes song at the end up on houses. And you know I in the past. I am the mom who had been absolutely not. I don't know this year I'm just like Oh ever. I kind of used to be that way to this. Is like their frigging super bowl. It is and I'm also of the belief I do not ration their candy. I don't get involved in candy and it kind of clicked for me this year. I would just rather them binge on it for a week. Yeah in just be sick of it than have to like constantly talk about it with them right. It's just what has gone it's gone. This is the first year that I haven't rationed it. Well Okay let me take you back. I don't know if you remember this but for years I I lied to my children. That how Halloween worked was that everyone went collected candy. And then you took that candy and you put it in a bowl in front of your house for everyone else else so they would come back from trick or treating and I'd be like okay. Let's put it in the ball and we would set it out. Or How long did you do this. I mean for so long until like Jaffa to was I probably in second grade. It's like mom. This isn't how it works as everyone else is keeping their candy. So then what I would do is I would. I would take all all of it. I put it in a box and they can have two pieces after dinner. If they eat their vegetables and I would that would last for like a year you know and it was just like that was czar dessert every night but this year I haven't done anything in the even have it in their rooms. I'm in a very busy season right now. And and just kind of like I guess they're just just GONNA eat candy in bed in their room. I guess while they're Redo I enter scholars. I give my permission to just not care. Yeah are going to be fine. We when we were kids I mean really. How much control did our parents? I do not believe that I ever got this much of a candy hall. Might I mean in. My children came home with. It's like enough to fill a king size pillowcase. And they may I mean talk about sports. athleticism these kids railing two or three miles. They did I'll give him that but then and then it's like I wanNA ration it but they they really feel like they earned it. I worked for it like you. Don't take mine away. I spent spent the whole evening absolutely so I don't know I may one thing I may do is I may rationed some of it. I may create some bad news for when we go to the movies and when we go to the theater like likes on hard I know because that's the other thing like you know we go to the theater a lot. I actually bought like every subscription ever for the theater this year. I don't know everything. Yeah like I bought the subscription for a segregation Broadway searing. Oh Yeah Yeah. And then I bought South Coast Rep too so we have a play once or twice a month and and they always want to buy candy there and when you go to the theater like skittles are like ride Jolla so dom- Saddam like. I'm spending fifty dollars at the snack bar intermission so I'm like wow let's keep some for the plays let's set for the movie. Theater is tell them that. Yeah I will still GonNa bag snowing there yet. Angie happy but I don't know it's like I have all this free candy. And then there's all those situations where you're overpaying for candy ass trying to figure out a meet in the middle. Exactly maybe have them do that now. And then he warned that candy and then let them eat the rest Ya. That's true. India must been so excited she was she enhanced. Grace both are like there is sugar. Sugar Phen- in them. It's just like there is is just get so wide I am too. I love sugar but I don't generally like Halloween Candy. Lack prefer dark chocolate. Or you know think. It's time that you religious be honest about your dot addiction at Halloween time. I do love dots. Everyone who knows me knows that I am a freak about dots. I make kids. Give me the dawn's. Every neighborhood is like Battiston. Yeah because nobody actually likes dots. I'm the only one on there like enjoys like the fruity almond joy oats and they might pull out your frigging crown. They probably well. Oh and I should not be eating any of it right now but I well yeah I need to ration it really just for myself because their bags are in their rooms and they go off to school and I'm like ten. Am I feel like a twix. I've definitely eaten all darks. All their bags. Oh it could not find any look. That's the that's the one I would actually eat is because I went through your your kids backstage Author so good. They're really good on the small ones. Oh yeah you feel like it's fine now. I totally agree all right. I'm would he have for two thumbs up this week so two things one being a show while comedy series. I've been trying to watch comedy just because I feel like with the real life. Life News is so depressing. Dark dramas right now. That are like and they're probably really great. They are but they're like you like what am I watch is like I can't watch like election stuff off your and then watch a murderer. It just feels like there's no hope in the world totally so I've been trying to force myself to watch comedy. Networks has so many great comedy specials. Yeah UH and one of my favorites. Obviously Dave Chapelle was hilarious and there was a lot of other really funny ones but some of them I think kind of went under the radar. Her name's Catherine Ryan I've seen her over the years a couple of times but she finally got her own special Doing so many comedy special send-off flex she's hilarious. Really yes she. I was hard. Explain it definitely a feminist but jerry like classically very classic about her she. Does this bit about Hamilton about that part where you know he sleep with the young girl yes in about how he really should have shown some restraint Tony frustrated in the seats. US It's hilarious. Husband didn't love it as much as I did. What does I? I actually watched it twice as I wanted. It was that good that I wanted to laugh again. Oh my God highly recommend it and I think it's something you can watch like with your older kids. Yeah uh-huh maybe my son who's like ten. Maybe not but my girls for sure. So Yeah Catherine Ryan Watch out for her. I feel like she's going to be doing and probably a lot. More things in the future and then my next one is. I've been really getting into jewelry lately. I kind of go through phases where I love story three and then done yes right now. I mean I'm wearing so many I've been looking for the perfect huggy. The huggy Mikediamond during yes and and like a little like a little Maltese yet teeny tiny. And I've had my second hole pierced since I was about thirteen. Yeah but haven't really worn earrings in them. Yeah as an adult ever. Yeah and so had families regular airings my first of all that I really like and it was trying to find something small for the second one. That wasn't a stud. Yeah so I was looking around and and some of these huggy diamond earrings are really expensive. Yeah and until I knew what I really wanted. I wanted to get something really inexpensive. Yeah so these are very very petite. Little Dole Huggy hoops with like sees. Yeah on Amazon for twelve bucks. Twelve dollars a nice. I'm super cute. All Right Casey teachers. Here's our listening. Let's let's hope they're not listening. But it comes in silver and gold rose gold all three probably only wear the regular yellow L. Gold and they look like little infinity hoops. Yeah they do really really small and it is kind of collateral easy super easy and I feel like they look really expensive. I need those because you know what's funny about jewelry. I wore infinity hoops in my. I have a second and third hole so I wore infinity hoops in them. Which of those ones that likes? Sort of go all the way through the ones that we tried to have your daughter take off at a soccer game yet. Yeah they're very difficult. Kenya knock them. Yeah you need tweezers to get them out But the good part about it is they they just become a perfect circle and they're really easy to wear Learn you never lose them. I wore them never took them out for probably fifteen years ninety. I mean I think I got them in high school nights never took them out and then I had surgery and I had to remove them and then I've not output another single earring in them sense which allow weird but I have a massive nickel allergy. You do. I am so sensitive to earrings and so I kind of don't even wear them anymore. Do you find that it's just in your ear or if you are a necklace or other jam rings bother me Okay and so i. I used to wear rings all the time now. I don't wear any rings none at all because they start to make me edge. Yeah that's like in my first hole. I'm not sensitive novas line flip that am I I super-sensitive and my second hole. I'm not as sensitive so interesting and I never really realized it was a nickel allergy. I just knew it wasn't a real metal or metal. My Body liked to the point. where like they'll bleeding in crack after wearing them for short amount of time second? I don't have that problem. I will say that the huggy earrings talking about Article Free allegedly the twelve dollars and that's the truth allegedly because I have bought many nickel-free hearing and then being like why do I win Clair's nickel-free earrings young. My ears interesting interesting. So I feel like I almost have to just go to a piercer and by likes surgical the surgical Yale. Yeah exactly yeah but India's the same way in fact when she first got her ears pierced she did. The you know the Piercer in the surgical steel and then her first. Pair of non In Non piercer earrings as Mrs Cute pair that someone had sent me and her ears grew around. The earring off. Swale like swelled is so disgusting packs full of fluid right. Yeah Yeah and I had to take him out and we had to regrow them leave. Here's some like a year later. It was terrible. That's a really sensitive. Not Fun what are your two at this last week. Okay we'll one of mine is this it. Is this nice little bottle of sleet. Miss that you spray on your pillow. It's from gardeners garden and it smells like lavender and it's heavenly but it's not too strong and it's funny. My kids really love it too. So at night they'll be like worst spray whereas spray specific child. Who really he can't sleep without? Oh I know totally so she has. India has won by her bed but it comes in his cute little bottle that you. I don't know aluminum or something pillow bedsheets sheets or the air or you can spray it in a great gift. It is a great gift who doesn't like that bad with like a self pillowcase self-care package. Oh my gosh. That's so true. I I like the guy. Might that might be my teacher. Viggo sleep missed with the satin. PILLOWCASE but yeah so that's one and then my other one is Okay so I just got this. Have you heard of nutro picks no okay so our front Anna is into this. Nutro picks are just like I mean. It's just a fancy word for supplements that help with brain functioning. Okay so there's this sounds like so much right exactly so there's this brand called Doxa to me. They actually have a whole bunch of different types of supplements but I have just been using their brain nutro picks which is like a powder that you can pop into a smoothie or into a drink But but it is supposed to increase your focus concentration. Your memory and recall amplifier mental processing. Take all my money. Well I know because I feel like we've talked about this the law in the selfie group. It's like a lot of hitting peri menopause and finding that our memory is crap and just fog. Oh my gosh. I can't remember. I mean Sarah and I talked about this in a previous episode like I can sometimes not remember the names of people I know well Or recall word. What you know the Cabbie Larry knows this word right? You just can't grasp like Oh. I WanNa make an artichoke. But I can't remember the women artichoke and then I ended up like I'll google for five minutes that vegetable that's green. That has spiky things on Um uh-huh to remember artesia so anyway. I hope that speaks more to and I'm not there yet so I don't know what's going to happen to me when premodern PAS comes terrified tried but I think that speaks more to maybe MOMS to have our load is so heavy. It's all of the but like we don't have any more space space left in our brain. I don't I am holding. I have so many tabs open in memory. Now I've so many things going on and you know that once you add a new one. Yeah one of them's GonNa go away. Artichoke is gone and knowing I now totally yeah so anyway I am giving this the college try taking it every day. I think it's helping. I will say Anna as much as I hate to give all the credit anything. She's usually really really good knowledgeable about this stuff. She everything I've ever tried that she's told me to help. With my brain or community has made me feel really good totally totally and this thing has the I mean. 'cause you're wondering what are the supplements that help your brain Alpha GPC Coleen Lean L. Carnitine L.. CARNITINE L tyrosine EXTE- extend release caffeine in it Alfonsin and one threes breath trimethyl lags design lacks Athene. Anyway listen lots of fancy things guys interested in this slow release extended caffeine. Yeah supposedly you. Don't get any jitters. You don't get a crash it's great 'cause there's no. GMO's in it. It's gluten free. It's you know But the extended caffeine is supposed to sort of amplify the effectiveness of all the other supplements. Face Yeah I feel like as a person with the ADHD this would be really great for me how it probably would be and my child. Yes I'll probably would be We'll speaking. Add are you still doing. CBD MHM for Your Kid. Who has has going great except when he goes and tells people hey I do? CBD Of course says but no. It's it I see it helping him. I'm not only Just with like you know his mental performance. But I also think it's helping him physically in his recovery right. I played high level sports and so so. I think that it's been really helping him. Just like repair okay. Not only do I see a lot of great results. But it feels really good talking about being vascular yes an inflamed it helps me. Yes the thing with CBD to that. He's adjusting It's helping with inflammation. Oh awesome so yeah. We're happy with that. Well the reason I wanted to talk about. CD is actually we have a CD. CBD Company as our sponsor today fantastic and. It is one that I really like. It's called feels F. E. A. L. S.. I like that I know and I mean first of well I just want to talk about the packaging because it's really cute packaging. I'm a sucker for marketing. 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She is a certified fitness instructor of over thirty years. And she wrote a book called superpowers which I think is so relevant to all of us Anita. Thank you so much for joining us. Oh thank you for having me well first of all what is this word. Superpowers mean. Well I how do I say so I was. You Know Fuller's fancy free when I was single and then all of a sudden I became a wife and a mom and once I became a mom might energy and everything everything just kinda dwindled and I was like this is crazy because I used to be able to manage all sorts of things teach classes trained clients and I was fine and now I'm struggling with two kids. It's Sean so that's kind of like the whole superpower thing came into play where I started recognizing that I was taking care of everybody else and I was forgetting to take care of myself health. And so then my superpowers dwindling in a bad way. And so. That's where I was like. No no something's got to change and I really started to sit back. I can go okay. Where what is it that not doing for myself? Now that I used to do for myself and as I kind of put all the pieces together I just made some adjustments in my my schedule and how I dealt with people because self care became a priority. Because that's what would ignite my superpowers. And then I was happier. I could handle my kids better I could even do you know kindergarten homework without a problem. So that's what I really knew. I needed to work on me. I yeah but that is so oh hard for women how do you how do you think why is it such a difficulty for women to prioritize our own needs. Well I mean I think that just you know this generation Lee this has gone through the lineages. If everybody we have become the caregivers yeah and we have become the ones who you know oh manage the household and all this other stuff And and but because of that we have to we. Just we naturally take care of everybody everybody else I we do and one of the things I teach with my clients and I work with them all the time that we if we take care of ourselves first we are actually better at taking care of others. It's so true though so you know what are some steps women can take to make sure they're prioritizing their own needs. I think a lot lot of kind of have bought that you know where overwhelmed were exhausted. We need to prioritize. We don't know where to start well and again my superpowers book. That's really what this is all all about. It's about how you slip it in easily. First and foremost you've got to drink water getting down to the basics you gotta drink water throughout throughout the day. You cannot have on coffee alone because that is going to dwindle your superpowers. So you gotta load up on water and you've got to eat the right foods because our body is a machine and we gotta make sure that we're fueling the machine for everything that we have going on in our day so important and yet that is a hard one for me even in two. Because I feel like I'm making sure everyone else's fed making sure lunches are made and then you know comes time for me to eat lunch and it's like oh I got nothing for myself. Listen I I. I'm right there with you. I remember when my kids were young and I remember being in the car on a road trip and I had all of these great snacks for them and they're eating their snacks and all all of a sudden I look around going. Wait a minute. I'm hungry Oh my God I think for me totally. I every airplane trip so you have to start getting a little bit more creative making sure. Your purse always has something for yourself I'm I love. My go-to is always an apple with almond butter and now sell the almond in butter in individual packs. Yes so I have those individual packs in my purse. Oh so smart I love stains me because if you only eat an apple all alone That's GonNa really quick and you're going to be famished but if you have an apple with some kind of protein to it it's GonNa last in your system longer. So then you're satiated create a longer so the protein. The almond butter to me is a godsend. Oh that's so smart. The do you get the little is at Justin's Almond Almond better It's our tesions. The Justin's isn't always the justin some of the justices roasted. You've got to look at that. Okay on the Artesian. Inspire is all raw in Artesian comes in the single serving packets. They've got a almond butter walnut butter cashew butter I mean they all have as in and they're all wrong. Okay good to know. I'm going to have to check those out. One of the things you mentioned in your book is this idea of cleaning out your pantry As the great way to start a new season talked to me about that yes you know so I'll just go from my vantage point so here I am. I'm among I've got two kids and so the pantry becomes royal disaster. And you look at it and you're like Whoa. There's all the stuff in there but the reality is the pantry needs to be. Especially when were you know. I'm a type A multitasker and I need and go. Yeah so I designed my pantry is for grab and go. I Open Vinick the things that are at my hand level. Grab and go the things that my kids will is grab and go and is organized in that fashion. We don't buy a lot of like you know people tend to buy like all this extra stuff that sits in their pantry for years yet was telling clients. Listen I want you to use that money on organics and more fruits and more vegetables stop. Stop buying this stuff that is just sitting in your in your pantry doing nothing. Is this extra thing that we tend to buy your refrigerator. Basically should empty out by the end of the week and and then you're freezers backup and then your pantry is the little filler items for snacks seasonings. And things like that but you always need to keep it that it's just the stuff that you're actually a using and the things that you aren't using so I was at a client earlier today. And she had ships and all the stuff and of course the anytime. You find ships in a client's cabinet. They're like they're not mine. The blame it on the husband or they blame it on their aunt. Betty's when she comes over she likes those ships and I looked at my client. I said okay. That's fine within those chips. Need to be on the top shelf in the back back. For whatever am betty shows up because they don't need to be in your vision so true stuff in your vision has to be the stuff that you're using on a day to day basis the same thing is you no. I'm not. I'm a big tea drinker. Tease me too. So I have a t section on my counter because when I wake up at five. AM and when I walk into my kitchen. I need everything right there. I don't WanNa be looking for twelve different things. I want to be able to easily grab whatever I need to make. MITEE MITEE and move on from there. Yeah and so. That's what we got to look at too so you've got to set up all of your sections in your kitchen so that their functional. I went to another client's lions house and I was trying to help her with some cooking tips and some of the spices were on the right of the stove. Other spices run the right of the refrigerator. Something else was on the top shelf and I look Jersey. How do you do this I go? We've just spent twenty minutes looking for the ingredients. I go everything that you used to cook needs to be right here. Next year stove I started like emptying out cabinets. I'm like these tupperware containers. They don't need to be here. We're going to move those and so by the time we were sitting down. She looked at me she goes. You know what that was so simple and it's kind kind of so obvious and she goes but I've been living this for ten years you know it's so fun a- sometimes we get caught up on what I call the hamster wheel of life. We sometimes we have to take a split second to say you know. What is this really working for me your? If I've been complaining that my knife is not shark for more than in a day. Either I throw up a knife and buy a new one or sharpen my knife. But I've gotTA leave. Things are easy to do and then that way going into the kitchen and making a meal meal becomes much quicker and easier. You know. It's so interesting that we're talking about pantries right now because I just a little over a month ago had my pantry completely reorganized with by this company called Horley and they come in and kind of rehaul and they pulled every single item out of my pantry. And it's funny because as you said I want to say we threw away seventy percent because it was either not being used expired which is embarrassing Just it was irrelevant and then they really did what year kind of talking about which was optimized the things that I use more often putting things in clear containers. I know it sounds silly to say but I truly feel that it. It improved the quality of my life. Like I totally get it. I'd talk pantry now. Well it should. It should look pretty. It should be organized and it should be something that you can just automatically say. I need this and you go. Can you know exactly where it is. Yes I went to a client in two weeks ago. Three green garbage bags of stuff. Did I throw out of her pantry entry in her refrigerator yeah it was either expired. It was no good it was all and then the funny part about it. Is that her and her husband. Love going to Costco Go. So she'd go to Costco and she I don't know garlic or onion powder or something like that well. She kept buying new ones because she thought she didn't have any FIDO data. At the time I organize everything like there's four onion powders here totally Kunis four. That's what happens. It's so true true. Well you mentioned T. I'm also a t lever to and I know in your book. You talk about the benefits of a daily teatime. Talk to me about this well. There's two different benefits. There's the social benefit aspect of it because one of the things to in trying to reignite or night or superpowers is we have to have. We have to do something for ourselves every day so my goal is to have tea with a friend. Even if it's for fifteen minutes. Yeah it's it's something that I do. It resets my brain then when I go back to the chaos of whatever it is I'm doing I'm like a new person. That part of it is is a big part but then on the flip side T. has a lot of really great medicinal and nutritional benefits. Yeah so taking advantage of that to again boost your immune hyun systems strengthening yourself so that you are much clearer to be able to handle everything you're doing in your day absolutely all right because I'm talking to I fellow I have to ask what are some of your favorites. I'm obsessed with Chai's okay. I've gone as far as like making my own chime X.'s. And I use it. Do it my food processor. I love that spicy. Ns when you put in the clothes and the cinnamon and the Hepburn Hepburn all the different flavors in there that I love and then to get it with a nice like I do a frothy almond milk or milk. Oh yeah and that's probably my all time favorite then from there. I do a lot of the different macho type teas yet and so you know that has its own place And then I do. I'm kind of like the mad scientist so I have this wonderful organic raw farmers market. I live in Miami and so I go there and she's got all these different t you know beautiful ts in these little bags teas and many times. I'll just go like this crazy. Scientists insert make seeing combining until I find this great flavor that I've made and I'm like Oh there it is and I start drinking that so it always has green tea in an Type tease in there and then all sorts of different herbs and spices. Yeah so good. My favorite is. It's a macho toasted rice by new me. That's my very favorite yes. I've had that before as well. That is Yummy. Yeah as toasted rice and I have that in my book. You can easily do that yourself. Yeah right and add the toasted did rice into a tea. Flavors it and I have the instructions in my book. I'm fine my Gosh I love it. Yeah now since we're talking about drinks you also are a proponent of adding coconut oil to coffee yes why. So here's okay eh Caffeine and sugar. For that for that it gives you a false sense of energy so you get this spike in energy yep and then you fall and then when you fall you unconsciously crave something else so either another cup of coffee a Bagel cookie something to give view another jolt of Energy K now coconut oil in your coffee. You'RE NOT GONNA you're not gonNA taste the coconut oil. You're all you're GonNa do is see the greediness on the topic coffee. You Oil has a lot of great. Yeah Coconut Oil has a lot of great properties for your hormones so it's got a lot of nutritional initial benefits for your body which is one great wonderful thing but the fat is now not going to allow the caffeine to skyrocket your energy what it's going to do it's kind of like give you a bump in energy and then it's GonNa make you cruise for a longer period of time so you're actually GonNa feel energize for a longer period of time line with the fat in your coffee than if you had no fat. Does that make sense. Yeah it does make sense. But I never would've thought of that and it's just it's a neutral troll you don't really taste it. That's pretty brilliant. Yeah Yeah Yeah also talk about why salt is not a terrible thing why we shouldn't be afraid of salt salt. Well I mean they kind of screwed up salt. Unfortunately so your regular Warton's table. Salt has been basically stripped of all the original nutrients that were attached to that salt right. You're basically just left with the salt and that's not good. That houses all sorts of issues. Because what happens is your body than when you ingest ingest that kind of table salt it actually has to rob nutrients from other parts of your body in order to break down and digest that salt on the flip side side if you get salt in its natural state like a Celtic Sea salt or Himalayan see saw it comes with its own set of nutrients so that when you ingest it. It's already got its own team to help. Break Down and digest it and do and actually give you a little bit of extra in your body as is opposed to stripping stuff away from your body interesting and then what about sugar. Well sugar's a tough one because it's really not just sugar and so for all your listeners. Out there no longer just sugar. It's sugar flour dairy and alcohol. WOMP almost things connect digest as a sugar. I know I know but you know so. So here's here's really the ideal situation and I tell. This declines like literally on daily basis. You can have zero to one sugar per meal and snack and so it's about making choices right so a client the other day she she had coffee cream sugar toast jam and juice and I looked and I said okay. That's all sugar. Yeah something's gotTa give. Yeah sure. And so she looked at me he goes. You know what I'm not willing to give up my coffee cream and sugar and I'm fine. You can keep the coffee cream and sugar but then what else are we going to now. We need protein fat. Because now you've already got your sugar in there. So then she chose eggs exit avocado. And I'm like fantastic. And oddly enough. She sent me a text message the other day. Because she's like I can't tell you how much more energy I have every morning now that I've been doing this this she's been doing it for three weeks. It's so true if I the difference for me between eating a lot of carbs in the morning versus protein I feel completely different in the morning thing. Yeah so I always tell people that what you gotta do. You look at your proportions of your carbohydrates proteins fats. They're going to actually help. You Monitor your energy for your day so for example you can take me this morning this morning I had breakfast at five. Am and I'm I'm not gonNA I haven't eaten lunch yet so I'm gonNA eat lunch after I speak to you so that's a long day a- and so my breakfast was all protein fat right so right now as I'm speaking thank you. I'm not famished. I'm just getting close to being ready to eat but I'm not famished. But on the other hand if I would have had cereal milk this morning by now I would have been hanging. Yeah Yeah I would have been ready to eat off my arm. Yeah yeah so so you kind of use your proportions so that things will stay in your system longer. Carbohydrates usually ideally really comfort fruits vegetables and unrefined grains that is immediate energy. Your protein is what I call cruise control. How long do you want it to stay in your system for your and your fat? Is Your backup battery. Yeah so now you use. All three components should be in every single meal and snack. But it's the amount of each each proponent is going to be different depending on what your activity level is when your next meal is you know your energy level all that other kind of stuff in your book you talk about. We're talking about health a a little bit but you talk about the four pillars of our sort of super power. Strength talked does so. You have your food and nutrition you got your your our exercise and movement sleep and relaxation and happiness and together they create a really healthy individual me. Think of it this way you can have somebody who's got a great physique in the gym and you see them in the all the time. They have a phenomenal physique. But maybe they really bad foods and maybe they're cranky so ideally they're not got a healthy individual. It's the appearance but not truly healthy so really to be healthy through and through. You gotta combine those four pillars and everything is is intertwined. If you're not sleeping correctly you're not gonNA lose weight. It's going to be almost impossible for you to lose weight. If you don't sleep right I see that with clients all the time time. So you know again everything is intertwined and so you have to have some kind of a system for each one of those areas and that's again part of what I wanted to share in my book. Tuck is how do you do this in a really easy manner where it doesn't become like all consuming all of the health books you read out there they'll give you all sorts of research studies and science and all this kind of stuff But you know what that's not helping me. I need doable action. Things that I can do right now. That's going to actually impact me right so something when it comes to sleep you you know. Here's what you do and you have to measure. How deep asleep are you getting so if you wake up in the morning and you just need to hit the snooze button or need a crane to pull you out of bed you're not getting and good quality sleep? That's just all there. You're not getting good quality sleep so now. How do we fix that so your room should be pitch dark and I mean every single? Led light from like a computer. Something thing needs to be covered and the reason being we look at those tiny lights as meeting nothing but if you were to close your eyes flashed a flashlight onto your clothes eyelids. It's you'd see the light penetrate and so what happens is we're in a deep sleep and we roll over and one of those little lights beans us in the eye that now takes us out of deep sleep and now we have disrupted sleep yet and then we have to fall back. They call them sleep cycles. So sleep cycles is your deep sleep and if if you have like a fitbit or one of these watches you can actually chart I find those fascinating and I think it's important to look at because in a perfect world. You've got about six of the sleep cycles cycles. And there are about seventy five minutes each. That would be perfect right but if you notice that you have these little skinny sleep cycles. And then you have this Rut Restless sleep deep. And then you're awake then that's not a good thing. Then you've got to work on that the same as you root should be a little bit colder than usual because that helps with slobber as well interesting Stang I did not know that. That's yeah that's good information I Sleep is struggle for me and I you know I I firmly. Emily believed in that sleep. Wait connection I do know that. That is very true for me when I am not getting enough sleep my cortisol levels are shot and then my metabolism Kazeem is in a tank as well You got to remember too that your body physically recovers between ten and two and it mentally recovers between two and six so you know you have that physical component and then you have the mental component so mental clarity. They research study just came out that stated that if you hit the snooze button one or more times in the morning that actually hampers your mental clarity for up to four hours no kidding and so it's kind of a weird thing because if I gave you a pen and said Hey I can get you a better pen than that you have. It's a physical thing you're looking looking at it and I give you a better pan and you compare them and you like yes. This is a better plan but when it comes to your health if I say you know what I bet you I can make you feel better. It's a weird thing because some people will say well. Listen I just came back for my physical. My doctor says I'm perfect right. I feel great. I managed to do everything I need to do in the day. What do you mean I could feel better but we can always all feel better? Yeah just with little tiny tips and tricks and all of a sudden. We're like WHOA. I had no idea that I had this kind of energy at three o'clock in the after noon. You know things that my creativity was kicking in so much more radical changes it can happen but it's it's the things things that we need to do for self care that's going to happen. Yeah it's those little modifications in your book has really outlined. step-by-step how how to get there Will thank you so much. 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I'm not gonna take care. I don't know how to train them. Yeah it seems like training a dog. Sled dog is probably next to like porn. Fluffer is probably one of the most tedious jobs if not what Has your has your lockdown been productive. Gonna this is. Yeah as your lockdown bed productive first of all. Thanks for doing this. Big fan for ages. You you're imdb is Is filled with you. You've had the kind of career and not to get all katie couric on you but like you've really done something for everybody like there's you're you're like the rock level of like you've got something for everybody you got the romcom. She got the fun like drama network. Shows like you know now this movie that you wrote and directed right. Yeah yeah it. It's been an interesting career you know it's it's i do like to mix it up as much as i can. Yeah i guess from the beginning you try they try to put you in a box and you spend half your career just trying to find your way out of that box of grew. I'm not that i miss. I can do this too. And so that's that's that's been a lot what i've done but i love doing different things. This was so fun about being able to do movies for. I'm i mean to make movies man. I'm just so lucky to be and get a to make a movie about a kid who's dog speaks to him. If i get to make a movie but a guy. I just finished a movie in mexico about about done with it or three more days here in. La about a guy who gets in his car accident wakes up in. This hospital doesn't remember anything and realizes this mexican mafia is trying to get information from him because he stole a of money and it says battled to get out of this like to play. Make believe and i get to do all kinds of different stuff. And it's it's it's a very farm. Did you know that when you took second place to ashton kutcher in a. I think it was like a mike who's got the best balls or something. What was the contest. There's like it was a it was normal. Adam cooper took second to me. Adam cooter is that we just called them. I am adam. I might. I might name. I thought you just said wait grabbed on this day so if i slur my words wait i thought you said i think you said first of all atom comma kuchar right away. You came together. I thought you were calling me. Adam cooker which then also satellite some weird. You know that he was chris back down with chris. Cooper nine eight changed the aston But no i actually one that. It was the most ridiculous thing i've ever done. It did win. it took second to you. I won the thing that but the problem is i took second after that because he went on and did all kinds of stuff he went on and did like a seventy show and everything else so i struggled for several years. One the i m ta. I thought it was a big deal but it really wasn't but you know it was. It was a funny sort of can change of positions after after that actual zoo lander like experience. Was it really. I was just going to ask the right up. Yeah it was. We walked wrong. I mean there's video online with this. It's it's an. It's i'm not proud of it. I had some local thought. Didn't put some low cut like guccione thing on that was like down my belly. Button super tight with matching navy. Blue pants super tight in there. Like oh my god. You're going to be the bell of the ball. Australia north dakota all right. I'll put her and i look at it and i was like what the fuck was i think. Also i mean it's the whole modeling world to me is so bonkers like the closest thing i used to when i was fresh out of college or still playing wolverine at universal studios buck in scraping by had just quit a restaurant job that i was only for two days because the head chef gave me a panic attack because it wasn't cutting the butter squares right shape so i was like anything just truly in that. I need to do anything to make money. And i did something for a few months called fit modeling. We're basically it was like from my size downtown downtown and put on jeans for these guys and they turn around and around. I was like the certain size for whatever and they just want to see how their product with donny. And i think it was. I was with a company called rage models. Which definitely sounds like. They're trying to like like they've definitely molested. Get like this agency is. I don't know if they're still around but like it was. Just i remember i went office was like way deep in the valley and it was always tucked away behind like a cheesecake factory in like a best. Buy that. We've been shut down for months. And they was like seventy five bucks for five hours to wear jeans for like rich italian guys so you had a similar experience i did. I did exactly that. That's why. I cannot believe that you know i went out after i win this thing. I think i'm gonna go on and be a big big deal. And i wasn't took five years to get anything after that. How the milan. Which is like you know this word. They do all that fashion stuff. I went there thinking. I was going to be all this modeling stuff. I just was terrible. Terrible bad at how bad. How can you be bad like your lowest bad. I was never comfortable like in front of a camera taking photos. I just couldn't. I just never felt comfortable so as a side job while i was in milan. Not making any money doing what i went there to do. I took a job as a fit model for prada in the incident while. Yeah it sounds like a big deal but it was not. It was the most humiliating job. You're because you're not gonna all day waiting for buyers commend as i okay. So and so's coming in from whatever store come out. We got the clothes on. Walk out there. You just feel like a like a train chimp. Yeah and. That's really. What i felt like i was like wow. This is what i become. I was going to go to now. Rodriguez telling me that my thighs don't look good in some some cowan clydes. This is not how. 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You got what you kind of transitioned and really start to find success in acting. Did you having the amount of modeling experience under your belt. Did you happy. We'll be in like a like you know. My my son is getting into fit. Marlene do you have any tidbits them like. Did you have any of that. I mean yes. It's still you still get that. I mean i still get a lot of people who are who want to get into the business and you know they wanted to do it. Sincere kids and i'm never discouraged but at the same time like there's no there's no fast track you know there's a million different ways to get there but you gotta hit the streets. Man is you know you gotta hit the streets and you gotta grind it. And that's why. Because i've mostly had no other choice. I was going to be a. I got my degree in biology. I was gonna go on. And i told my mom. I was going to california to try to go to usc or ucsf of these dental schools. And the whole time. I knew that i wanted to try to do this but i didn't really know how. And you know. You just got like i would i. I mean i did. I could go on and on about the embarrassing moments of just trying to make it in this town all the rejection. I mean it's just rejection. I it's just you got to have very thick skin. You gotta be a do working. I just tell people you gotta you gotta get class. You gotta get up in front of a group of people and not be afraid. And i think a guy who does stand up you stand that. I don't know how you do that. I could never get up. And i've done some stuff where you know. I felt like i was fearless. But i could never do standup. I just terrified of that while that wasn't something that you never because even to me which is weird like standing like doing modeling or walking a catwalk or just having that many people taking pictures is i don't know did you walk. Walk a catwalk. You have to at some point right. Yeah did i think. I did one or two shows there but it was just it was just i was steph. Didn't i mean i grew up. I grew up in the suburbs of mine north dakota and there's no modeling industry there's no there's no training for anything like that so it was it was just. It was uncomfortable in the beginning. But i knew that that was not my means to getting to where i am now. It means to try to do something to make some. I thought it was i. You know you don't know until you know until you still you go through doing for. This is not what i want. Did you have anybody in north dakota 'cause if you're a guy north dakota i'm going to venture to assume you stand out a little bit. Yeah i don't know what the fellas look like in dakota are we get lots of lots of josh d'appel ganga's or is it like how many other. Jd's are walking around with the same type of swagger and john. You've got right now in north dakota. I'm sure there's plenty. But i haven't looked i've ever done recon. Bill is okay so you so you start getting to the modeling thing did you have like. I don't know any family members tied to the business or any one. You knew that even got you. How'd you get the bug for even hollywood. Was it like watching a show. Did you see some movie. And you like i just think it was is a really good question. I was moved to northern california. I was living in. This town called Rohnert park which is between petaluma and santa rosa. I don't know if you've been out for. Oh yeah I was working in a gap hosts They wouldn't let me out front in the front of the house to sell clothes. Because i didn't dress well enough. So i was in the back and i would i would unpacked boxes. The came the crates that came in. And yeah folds weapon up. Put him there so that when the they run out of sized steel thirty to thirty seven's they would. They would come back. And i would have mall rifle An important job. And i remember we were. It was right around the time I can't even believe admitting this. But it's the truth. And i love this dude. I've never met him. But but i love. It was right around the time. Legends and fall came out. I was like brad. Pitt is the coolest motherfucker i've ever seen. And that was our wanna be like that guy. And that's when i kinda got the bug. I mean i had to go out there to begin with. That's why i was in california in the first place. But that's what i was like. You know what. I'm gonna go for it and all this other stuff happened after that To seven years later. I'm getting my first audition for something which went terribly. But i think was what really sort of you know. I just always liked that dude style. Like the way he operates seems like a good dude allows work. That's kind of what in and also you know. Gaza bill murray guys like jack. Lemmon and guys like jack. Nicholson wow not to say that. I'm anything near that. But those are the guys that really. After i really started training and looking at it in working on it. That's what i try to emulate the fearlessness. That those guys have. that's awesome. Well those are all great guys to try to emulate and an aspire to be like. It'd be so did you have any You said that first audition seven years later after would just went terribly. What was the forty member so okay. so i'm now living in los angeles. I had a girlfriend in san francisco. We broke up that day. I packed my ford taurus up in droves to l. a. Add some buddies who were living there one of my buddies who actually i play in this movie. Believe it or not. Bob schwartz he You ju- jewish no. He's not jewish for real. Now see adam ray. I'm jew raise not a jewish last name. That was a joke. bob. Schwartz is not a jew. There were there. Were four different. Bob schwartz's at temple beth. I'm in seattle. Where i went as a as a child are you serious frees me. He might be a So i up on the couch for like am broke is a joke. I had nothing. I was depressed migraine out here. Man i don't you know i came out here to do something i just don't. I'm directionless. I don't know where i don't know i'm going to do. And one of the guys. It was lived at five of us living in a two bedroom apartment. Right off of franklin gower and jim bit lotto this kid who is working for us in working in the mail room at an agency don buckwald associates. At the time. I one yet calls me knows that. I'm like bro yet. Board calls me up and says hey So the guy the guy to work within this in this mailrooms sick today. You wanna come in cash as a so i go in and and I started distributing photos. For whatever show is you know casting for whatever part and one of the agents asked me. If i was an actor and i said yeah i hadn't ever taken a class. I didn't have any experience that even know and so they start. He's like well we're going to. I'd like to start sending you out. I was like okay and he was. But we're not going to represent you. Were just going to what we call hip hop you. They hip pocketed me and they started sending me out to see what happened so i had several auditions and i'll never forget. It was still dishes on a saturday and it was for ryan something year one. It was like back in nine would have been like ninety seven or eight and so i was. They hadn't gone well to that point but this one went exceptionally bad. It was supposed to be bench pressing something and doing the scene. I just had no idea how prep i. I didn't know anything. I hadn't had no training. No business even going to an audition. And so i go back to the house that day. Don't say anything. Jim goes back to work. Monday comes back after work on monday and said so how about addition on saturday. I go pretty good. He's apparently not If if if if you don't do well in his up coming up they're probably not gonna send you out anymore. They know and i knew at this point. I wanted to do it. But i hadn't really i hadn't really given the respect. It deserved ri- work. Because i do not know. And so what point. I winning and and i actually got a call back on that next one and then i started making a little bit of headway and i really started working at it and studying in and it's been something i've done ever since i don't take this business or this job for granted ever i take every single job very seriously and in that was kind of the tipping point for me is is felt like i couldn't i wanted to hide under the Fingers apparently not that. I can send you out anymore and it was. It was that moment to sort of clicked and i started having war. It was still baby steps for a long time. But that's when. I really started making some headway. That's awesome i. It's interesting how you kinda do unfortunately need a rock bottom if you will and i don't know if that's truly rock bottom moment but something where somebody and outs somebody that you are looking up to in some fashion of what you're trying to achieve that is just being so blunt with you and then it's thank goodness you had him to to be like fucking. Oh you thought it was great. Yeah were you doing it in the shower too. Nobody because there were people at the thing that you just did and they You know whatever it is. You need that outside voice to kind of like actually go. Oh wild because you know parents friends gonna be supportive to appoint right like. I'm sure they're like just book and you can't do no wrong and you're like man. I think i ate shit on that. Probably just in your head but you need that person that's going to break it down Will and you know not everyone or sure not everyone that and spins it into fuel the fire. So that's a good learning lesson for anyone trying to go out. I and she's just one of many examples. By the way this business. You might be able to relate to this but for me even now. It's it's it's mostly rejection. You have to have a thick skin. You got the development. You're just you'll fall by the wayside and you can also. I believe you don't. You can't have a plan. B you can't have a net because if you have that net we a plan b probably gonna take that at some point for me even now like i have to keep pushing i have to keep hustling or i don't know what else i'm gonna do because i have to. You know i. it's just for work or however you wanted to find yet it's you can't have a net unless you have a net benning in your back pocket and she wants to produce everything that you want to make with warren beatty and your plan b. is you and i had that. Actually you can't have never been in it. She will look. I actually work for an bending dot com and she's trying to push these t shirts hard during the pandemic that basically say you can't have a net dot dot dot unless it's banning and it's like i don't know i don't get it but i fuck in no her kids so i'm trying to help him. Now that's true but you think. Do you think that there's something to be. Said about. Coming from north dakota not having being a fish out of water and not having any true going in blind like ignorance is bliss in trying to get going this like i mean. I don't know if a genie in the bottle music video. That was one of your first. Gigs yeah yeah. Yeah i was one of my first aches. Yeah i mean. I don't know if that was like a cast off audition or if they you a starbucks and was like that guy be fucking atom culture like let's look in put them minis probably carry his own and a music video because by the way people need to understand that music video like the stories that are told some of these and the acting that is still required. Isn't just like stand there and look hot. Which is can be a part of it. But it's like you still have to show up and add to the to the whole to the whole video. You know if you're if you're you see these people that are in them. If it's bad it does take away. And ken maybe even the song but how did that happen right. How the how the how the genie bottle thing happen. Yeah so i was there to audition for. They said christina aguilera when she was first coming up. I think i hit actually. Fuck ya Grow christina aguilera. I think i'd heard of her at the time I remember the addition like like it was yesterday. So i went in. She came in. I was like well sir on guess they wanted us looking like do we had so. I tried to talk her up a little bit. She was just sort of aloof in and this isn't going well but it went well enough to become the guy's friend so i i didn't the guy but i got the guy's friend right so i was wasn't leaving i was the guy's friend in it and i was i if you watch the video i'm literally it's like i'm gone. I'm jumping over some kind of offense or something. But i remember the set aren't remember being. Oh my god this craft service here. What's all this free food. You know. I remember ron fair. Who became a friend afterwards. music producer this hat on. And he was the guy and he became a friend of mine because he was a friend of my my ex for her And so you're in this business long enough. It becomes a pretty small circle right but that particular job. Oh and by the way the guy that did get the job that i that i was there for fund out was like in my old girlfriend while we're dating so they go do. It really is a small circle. Yeah that's i was like. Wait wait is this guy that beat me in the christine aguilera. But that's the guy that you know those so yeah. I don't know if that's something. We delete from this edition but that that's another truce sport. Why remember this alice because it was fairly traumatic. At in retrospect yeah dude so for bringing that up. Do you wanna talk. Let's shift gears us. Let's let's let's talk about when the winds coming is. Do you think movies okay. So music video. I don't know how much do you have side jobs before you're really getting going to model thing. Obviously and then like did you have to like. I said i was working at universal studios in the restaurant for a little bit. Did you deliver groceries. Did you like you know Sell knives to door like. Did you ever have to do anything like that or was it like a couple of things got going. You found odd jobs in the business. And then you know i was i. I've worked so many terrible jobs coming through. I mean i was. I was before i moved to la. I was working in an ace hardware. Yes distribution plant. It was like an overnight job from six pm to ten pm to six. Am take the breaking down boxes and putting them into these container so that the shoppers could fill the orders for whatever hardware store in the region. Oh my god that was. Maybe the worst. I worked. Construction work for this company would go in. There was a mandate back in the late nineties for california any gas station that had tank that was in the ground for more than thirty years or something they all had to be pulled out and they had replaced with these double lined tanks that they weren't leaking fuel the ground so i had to go in and be the guy that would take these old tanks out and dig out all the soil that was soaked with old gasoline. It will probably the most unhealthy job. I ever had something. I did north. I worked in northern california up in napa for for years just construction. That's where i learned how to operate in a backhoes and excavators and stuff like that You know back room at the gap. Like i told you restaurants. You know i did what i had to do to just make some money do a true man's man. I mean you said construction. And i think you said backhoes. I don't know what the fuck that is. But that sounds psycho is tobacco. Is it like a abaco. Abaco like the detractors. They got the big wheels in the back and they got the big front loader on the backside they've got the scooper. yeah that's called the abaco. You're you're thinking it's one of those groupies that was backstage on your show. A we call those super fans. Yeah that's so funny did. Did you ever have a moment in the grind where you were just like you know. I think everyone is talking about some point. Lisa kudrow famously. Right was getting ready to quit and then got you know. I think it was after. She got fired from frazier. And then you know friends comes along like did you have a moment where it was like man if i get a call back for one more pizza hut commercial. I don't get it. i'm fucking outta here like. Did you have any sort of like ultimatum with yourself or did you have. You always been self-assured and been like dude. Just take a look into those sweet. Jd is no get some confidence and see what the world is going to see. Did you talk to yourself. How do i answer that. So the yes i mean. There's there were. There were a lot of like moments when i was like. What am i doing do you. How can you for me. The hardest part about. And i still hate it when i got to go audition for something. That's the hardest. Part of getting any job is actually getting the job. Doing it is the fun part. Because you're there on set you get to immerse yourself in whatever environment you're shooting at in you have to work actors in. It's that's the fun part. It's the getting the job. And i remember. The auditioning was just so. I could never if i knew if i could get past like that. That that racing heart be or the sweats or not being able to catch the real like panic attacks in allow these early auditions. Because i just couldn't get myself calm enough to give the performance that i needed to get and that was part of that was part of why i had so much empathy for these people who are coming in to audition for my mood Spot so i knew i was now the guy who was like casting but i remember there was one moment my very first job that i got as an actor was for this move. Please don't watch it because it's terrible. I'm terry the movies after. I'm terrible in it It was a student film based on oscar wilde the picture of dorian gray but a sort of a contemporary version of it and there was a moment when i had to lose it. I'd like i can lose my mind in a scene and i did. It was the first time ever done it. Not dish home and i could see the look in their eyes like he's the guy and i knew right there that i got the job and i just broke through some some fear that i've been having to this stuff because i had this thing. They're all going to think. I'm a joke back home. What am i doing an audition. I'm a fraud. Mma fake what am i doing. I'm not an actor. What am i. But i'd been working at it long enough to now that i needed to go really prep for these additions in bring my homework and all the things you gotta do and i find those able to relax enough to just let it go and that was the moment i got my first job and after that i got all my children because i got that job and after i got on my children i was. I was literally in after that one moment. I knew that. I had to whatever job. I had to be fearless and not be afraid of what looked like what people thought of me and i went onto my children and i brought that same idea with me. End up getting nominated for emmy my first year on this on all my children. Yeah one of my second year. And then i got thirty. People have unlike. I still felt like a total. I still feel like a fraud sometimes but Time i felt like what if something happened. Were and then i started to feel like maybe i can actually do this but it was at one moment that i just didn't care anymore. Maybe it was the moment. I i was ready to give up and i was like fuck it. Whatever happens happens. And i brought that with me at all my children. They're like whoa discuss a little nuts. But it and that was kind of the beginning. All my children in las vegas than i got a couple of movies like tamil didn't transformers sort of started to work but having said all that it's still every you know this job this this business you can. It can go as fast as it comes. And and that's why i don't take any of it for granted every job is. Is you know. My last job is being on a soap. I that was beautiful is being on a soap As it looks fun. I've had two buddies on soaps. They seemed like it was always spoke highly about it. Some of the story lines. You know one of them was on passions. And he's like yet today. I think i'm you know revive. I'm like a doctor who's reviving like a hermaphrodite which and then reuniting her with like her estranged son. Who's actually grandpa. Obviously fucking paraphrasing that storyline young and the restless eighty seven. They were ahead of their time with their with their story lines but i think for two soaps and the guy from seattle got that it was from new york and i was in. His office wasn't a casting couch situation but he was definitely definitely given off some interesting vibes and i was like maybe the second thing i'd been in on after my fit modeling career fucking i've and so i'm in this office and the guys like so. What part in new york you from. And i was like you know a the brooklyn side just lied and went along with it. And he's like to took part of brooklyn is like my like. I knew one area called boerum hill. Because i lived there for like three months with a girl in the summer before i moved back to l. a. and saw bore mail on the next to the dubbed the deli shop and he's like the delhi shop and i was like the one with the getting over. Everybody goes there sandwiches and people go in and they ask sandwiches and they have them. Because it's a deli and he named someplace and i was like yeah and i didn't get it but but but but it seemed seeing like all i don't know man like the sets in just being on the the the sound stages ford like sweet. I was isn't it like the hours are good to right like well. It's it's it's a different world. The whole soap world is a completely different world. First of all. It's the best possible thing that could happen to me. Because i needed that training and it was like gr- it was like the amount of words you gotta learn every day. You know you understand where your light is you understand media on a small scheduling is a little bit smaller scale but the the the workload is intense and i was willing to do the work. I was willing. Because i was all about just trying to prove myself. I just wanted to keep the job. And i would sit there every night working working working working and i asked. My first audition was Passions yes yeah. That's the one that my buddy was on. Yeah was on a so. I went in and auditioned for pasarin. Around your i went on there. If got a screen test and it was a big deal because close to my first acting job and i had to go like Stage to like cormac self this glass of whisky. Because i was part of the united with this girl and she was behind me and i was so sn irvine that i would go was trying to pour this glass whiskey in my hands were shaking and i was like oh god. I'm not going to get this because the shaking with again it wasn't ready. I wasn't i hadn't busted through right but then i got you know the all my children but the thing about the soap still is that it's i knew. My mom watched young. The rest is my whole life. Since i early back as i can in my grandparents farm in north dakota out near esmond north dakota and young and the restless was on and my mom still watches that to this day and so through the years. I watch these guys. Do this. And i knew the way they did it. That's part of why i went in going okay. I know what what they're expected for me. I need if i'm going to try to do this. And do well and make like megan influence. I'm going to do something different. So i would try stuff there. That was so against what was was conventional like well like a jamaican accent. Like how would you step out. Seizes i could just go on and on but i mean there was like i would come in. I would improvise. You just don't improvise on those shows because yeah that would try stuff. I'd start laughing at the scene. When when when i wasn't supposed to you just like just try stuff and again it was mostly out of fear of of of i was like i'm gonna either sink swim. Yeah and i'm gonna things i'm gonna be i'm gonna i'm gonna standout girl and and that's really what my thing was. You know i remember. I remember to be drunk in the scene. Walk into walking under the cetin. I hadn't had all the training i needed. I was still learning this thing. So i just started spinning around around around around like behind the door before i walked in on set and i walked in there like just hammered felt like i was hammered regiment. Why don't you just act like you're drunk and all but not act. Like i was drunk. I myself into a place where i really felt drunk and i still do that kind of stuff because i have to. I have to have to really truly feel it all through my body else. I just feel like taking it to. That's amazing those types of little tricks man or so cool to hear from actress like yourself because it's like people don't again it's like people just assume that you should if you are a great actor like yourself that you should just yeah you can just turn that on and just be and feel drunk and it's like like you said minute to absorb the full authenticity of that like it's obviously going to be better if you can get yourself to a point to where you're feeling it as much as you can without actually. Yeah unless like that. I've never been that guy. I have to and that's why i really. It's it's a physical sort of especially if it's a physical movie. If i'm in a like an altered state or something i gotta work myself into into that state. Who taught you. The spinning move was at a susan. Lucci tip or who. I just made it up on the. I made everything up on the fly. Man i was just trying to not fuck up is she. Was she all my children. Choose all my children. Yeah wow dude. Was that i mean. Let's be let's be honest. She didn't like me very well at first. Because i was not you know by the yeah. I take new just pissed off a lot. We'll do let's be honest. She she was kind of like you know. Let's say i don't know jerry west rick berry and you're coming in michael jordan doctor. Jay leno john stockton. You're doing some new things at that. The league hasn't seen you're improvising. You're spinning backstage. Maybe i might have been. But and i'm not saying she was she wasn't me she was always the she's the consummate professional. But but i. I can tell that i really annoyed her. Because was i was just i would. Did you see what's on a time in hollywood. Love it when dicaprio was doing that like for the scene. He kept forgetting his line. He or he was. He's working at the night before he was refracted. That's key i was like damn. He was making fun of actors. Do that. But i was like dude. That's me no way. that's awesome. Get so mad. Because i was so competitive growing up had this temporary when i was younger. I've been working on it. It's not nothing like it was and i. I wouldn't get mad at anybody. But i would just beat myself up so hard that if i forgot my lines would start getting in my head. Forget again i forget again. It'll be uncomfortable onset and it has happened a few times in my career and and in that scene in particular is like. Wow that is me several times amazing yokata dope to that. You said you want to follow. Brad pitt's footsteps and wasn't he also like a a sopa soak guy. I think he was for a minute. I was on there for three years. I think he did. Like little guest sponsor sponsor and there and then he just blew up but it would have been great if he came into the gap at one point into the back and he was like. Hey dude got a size thirty seven thirty five and you like mr pitt. And he's like that's right and he's like and just kidding about that size you know. I'm a twenty two twenty four and you're like yeah i know you by the way. I'm just kidding about the gap. I wouldn't buy shit. Yeah i just feel in this mall somewhere that somebody was fantasizing about following in my footsteps. So i thought. I'd come by check in. See how the dream was going. A did did your Your experience okay. Obviously you said this fascinates me meant the the soap world. Because i also know from buddies have done it that you can get stuck in it right and to actually break out and have a career like you've had after isn't guaranteed right now. No and i knew that. And also this. This part of what i knew watching for you know so young and the rest is for all those years. We mama always had an aunt. So i had no god. This guy's been on this show for ever and by the way it's not a bad gig. It's a pretty great gig. But i knew that i wanted to go off. I knew that. If i stayed longer than three years i was going to be there forever because they did offer me a nice contract to stay and i was like it is coming from a key to that nothing. I grew up without a lot of money. So there's a for. I'm living in new york city. I'm making money for the first time You know and it was nothing better than making money and probably good money and living in new york and you're young right. I mean that's kind of the only time you wanna be living there a solid sunrises. Put it that way. And it wasn't. Because i was unbelievable but yeah it was it was. It was one of those things where i knew that i needed to. I wanted a loved it. It was a great learning experience. But i had to had to go after those three years. Otherwise i would have been there. Which again wouldn't have been a bad thing. But it wasn't what i wanted did you did you feel like monitor pressure. Then coming out to la because then you what then moved from new york to la. Yeah to go gun awfully actually got the job in l. a. and move to new york for those three years. That's it back. you know. Beat the streets again for other year year and a half. now i got las vegas and then You guys shot that in vegas right. Shot that in la. Oh really. we just built a giant set of on sound stages in culver studio vince. That show ruled con to me is like one of those guys that people sleep on. And i can only imagine the stories the wisdom the puck and what is even like to look across when that guy in a scene i mean. Do you have any just j. C. j. d. buck entails from the strip. Shell god i've got so many. He was he was truly. He'll go down on his the guy that taught me more than anybody about not only acting but about you know the business and by the way not just what to do but what not to do and he would be the first one says. I don't fuck in follow in my footsteps here. Every time we do a scene and he didn't think i was doing it right he'd be like i always knew it. He's like josh. Come in for second among all shit. Aereo take me aside. It'd be like you need to let those due. Do that. And i was like okay. Okay okay but i took it because this is this is sonny corleone this is come on. This is this guy's done everything in this business and i still. I still keep in touch with that guy. And i love him. He's a he's one of those guys that just he lives. he lives is a purist. You know he. He acts before he thinks he doesn't eat nothing. You don't have to worry about him. Like mincing words about anything. And i love that about the bet about anybody who's got the balls to live their life that way. But yeah there's there's there's some gems man. I remember my first date with with my first date with ferdie back in two thousand four as jimmy. I'm gone david. This girl hiker auto. I do i do is i commit first of all. He does take her to this restaurant. But before you do that you got a jerk off first before you. It's only an olive garden. spank it. 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So i about last night and get ten percent off your first month. Promo code about last night and now back to the episode. It's cool to have people like that that you work with the do. Obviously you guys did five seasons six. We did five seasons do that. You know even. I mean now especially but i feel like even then i mean it's like man. I feel like you told me you. You've been on on more shows but like three sometimes feels like a win. Yeah so five is like. I feel like you did it. One hundred and five episodes one hundred five episodes of it and we. I mean it was a it was a struggle to do that because i think there were three heads of program at nbc during those five years so every time. A new head of programming comes in. They want to put their own stamp on the network. We became the red headed stepchild early but we had good enough numbers. They kind of had to keep us. But you know the first time we we slipped at all that was it. Wow would you have done. Do you get to a point where the show like that. We elect mike fifteen seasons. We might do simpson. Records must be to thirty-five like there's a do get into a flow of a show like that where you're like running. Yeah i mean. I think five was the sweet spot. Five was good after that you just start to phone in a again. It would have been a great gig to be able to have that because that's steady work and a never discount that i never got to the point where i was over it because i again. I've always had this mentality in this business where i appreciate every single job. I get because i know what. It's like to be dagan holes of you. Know in northern california from gas stations are soaked with gasoline. You know these. These jobs that i had because i didn't get into this later so i knew what the alternative was right and so against even to this day as i know lucky to be working what. What's more difficult acting with cars or dental school. Dental school with guards fun. Dallas have been tough. Why that's why. I chose acting with cars. Is there a is there like school of for the active transform. Like how when you get that gig first of all you've probably fucking just i mean you call up on. He's like did you. Jared goff yet. You like dude. It's been years later but but That those movies are fucking blockbuster. Iconic films in in time now and it also the cgi. If anything like that before where. It's i talked to. Chris pratt wants about just jurassic acting and he was just like kind of downplaying. It making fun of how. He's like velociraptor. You like. oh fuck you know. And he's like pretend there's a bubba he's like you know. Obviously i think he was just trying to take the piss out of it but it's seems easier said than done to truly make us believe that you're receiving end of that stuff. Yeah but it's not it's really it's With the with the base. That's probably a lot different than in addressing park because you don't have explosions going off. All around you in the base of the stuff. That i did i was at my stuff was always military others a few scenes that either deal where you to talk to you. They put a post On those long sticks that you sort of put up put a picture of optimus prime on it and you and you knew the height that he wasn't he would just talk to port wasn't so hard i mean You know i would imagine anybody who's worked with me would say that. It was very similar to working with a stick with a picture of from. That's amazing a did. That was that was post when in rome. Yeah when in rome was Yeah i think yeah yes. Is there a different mindset for an action blockbuster versus an obviously. I'm assuming the answer's yes but like rom coms. I feel like you. Could've you could've just. I mean hugh granted up right and probably like two year and truly just never left that john mara would you agree. I mean maybe. But i also knew that that was a that was Recipe for a quick quick career. Okay so that was a that was a cognizant moved to be like before the always trying to put you in a box. And i knew that i was getting put in that box Switch this up. And i got lucky. i've been very fortunate to be able to do things like transformer. That was a lot of fun. I mean not. Not as the truth is doing a romcom. It's much more difficult to do in transformers because i have to like deliver. A performance in transforming is not that you don't have to deliver phones but it's not. It's not the movie doesn't hinge on whether or not my chemistry works with you. Know the other guys in my on. My you know my ops team right now those are those are more. Those are more difficult to do and i like doing stuff like that. It's fun but i like doing all kinds of different stuff in. And i just did this movie in mexico About the movie in mexico. No so we just didn't so. We were quarantined in this hotel in mexico mexico city and they rent out the entire place we had the crew at the cast with staff. Nobody could leave all lockton spice for four weeks. It turned the seventh floor into a hospital. So the movies about this call blackout. It's about this guy who gets in a car accident. The beginning of the movie don't really know what's going on until the movie starts to unfold but is this car accident. Read the beginning ends up in this hospital bed and doesn't remember anything. He he took a shot to the head and doesn't remember shit and starts to realize that the people that are trying to help them actually trying to get information out of him because he starts to realize he was he was a da and but he also was working for the mafia mexican mafia and was doing some pretty dark dirty sideways and doesn't know if he was a if he's a good guy who am i. We basically tries to fight his way out of this this this hospital and that was so much fun to do. I love doing stuff like that too. Because it's like okay. Now i'm like shoot 'em up hard. Actually fights long fight scenes like that's a whole different world than a romantic comedy thing. But that's fun to be able to switch it up and do that and it's a challenge to be like okay. Am i any good at this. Can i do. I've tried it before And i didn't feel like. I was ready but i did feel like i was ready this time because i was. I didn't push his heart. Let it come to me. And i just sort of like let it play out rather than trying to force the force the issue. Yeah there's getting to obviously like you know again. You can attest to this more. Celebrate like getting into the this business and then being having opportunity to flex different muscles and things that you haven't gotten to do before it's probably you know makes a reinvigorates you for just the whole the whole process. Right guy just reaffirms. Why love. And i'm so grateful to get to do this for a living. So like kid to dismiss this job. I get to be this guy. He's gonna lose yourself in that. And i get obsessed with them with the whole script on the law is like okay this here. You gotta be able to keep track of where you're at because the whole thing happens in one day and so there's all kinds of everyone's different. Some movies happened over a lot of time. Some people sometimes they happen in a day and you gotta be like remember kissing shooting scene fifty seven. Yesterday we shot ninety seven Where was i than in. How do i make sure that i'd get. That's like mentally and emotionally so it's a puzzle but it's part of it's part of the fun. My buddy real quick told me i was just talking a little bit ago. He works at fox and said you did some Nfl pre game. I think i don't always a sketch of the third. The thursday night Sunday last sunday for the fox. Nfl sunday. yeah ya. You're a big sports fan. Yeah oh yeah. Who are your teams for For everything anything minnesota also. I'm also like the lakers. In alec the clippers. And i like the dodgers but i'm mostly minnesota vikings for sure it's tough to not jump on somewhat of a bandwagon to know if you've been there for a minute especially because like all the teams are pretty much always competitive right so it's like and you're going to do. I'm still praying that that bomber moves and backup to seattle. So i can have a team again but you know oh really think the clippers will go up there. It was talked about a one point because bomber was actually tried to help. Save the sonics and that didn't happen. He always wanted a team. That's why he got the clippers at worked out. So there's been rumblings. Bill simmons is always saying that he should take him up there because la thinks is Just a lakers town that the clippers are just now they have this new stadium coming so we'll see not a terrible idea to and i hope they go back to the super size. That's maybe the greatest name in the history of those the best. I mean it's like you know people ask me. They're like what's what's worse. Your parents splitting up with the sonics leaving a mike dude. It's like not even close. You know what i'm saying like bring back the sonics. I cried harder when we lost in ninety. Four to matombo in the nuggets. Then when my dad was like. I'm moving out. I was like dude by by shawn and gary right here. Those are the folks that i need But but Vichev hockey team to up there but we have one we have. It's coming. we just gotta prove that's right. It's cracking the what the can say. I like that name to the crack. The fans crackheads you to be playing in the crack house. They hit the leasing. Tweaker night. you know like twenty thousand fans get little pipes. There's there's so many promotional ideas so tell me this. Why doesn't wisconsin. Have a hockey team. Nashville does or tampa bay. Don't get me wrong. These teams are good. But there's not a real like north wisconsin. That's a hockey state. Yeah it'd be easy. Just call them like the green bay puckers. Yeah right really writes itself. You're not wrong. I mean trust me do. There's i mean. And i'm sure as a sports fan to like or the milwaukee bucks. That's that's the play right there. I mean would you ever be. Gm sports team. Is there a sport that you feel like you know the most about or would that. What's the sport when you watch it for your hometown team. I'm gonna assume it's vikings where you probably like. Dude guys leave the room on my break. The tv or throw a child through the window. What was the question if if i did what. If there's i guess. There was three questions in their first of all. What's the sport that you feel like. You could actually step into the front office and make some guys. They we should change the name of the from the from the green bay packers to the green bay packers. And they're like what josh nobody said you could be in this meaning Chill chill to drinking right. Is there a sport the you could step into the front office and the second part of that. What's the sport that you watch where you're like. I should probably by myself during this game. Because you know yeah a little out of out of the part of that is while let me ask you the second one i is that i don't get as wound up anymore as i used to. Because as a vikings fan learn to break my heart a different way every single year. Yo how about that game against my seahawks guys are hard several. I was at the game in minnesota. When walsh missed the twenty four yarder no you weren't allah game this year. When they did this. I mean they do it like once a year that russell wilson and he is. He is one of those quarterbacks that i absolutely love and despise at the same time because i know that if he's got a chance to win he's probably gonna win it yup and there's only a couple of guys that do that and that's roger's as brady. That's that's russell wilson Not part of the reason why. I don't trust team right now. I don't trust cousins. i think he's a decent quarterback. I think he's a good dude. I just don't think. I just. I think he's a good solid backup quarterback for somebody. Yeah i just having a hard time. Buying him is like the guy who's going gonna take us to championship A go ahead. Yeah go to answer the first part question to segue into that. Is that if i were going to pick a sport and pick something that i feel like. I could tune the front office. It's assess- quarterbacks have this knack for it. I know when a guy is gonna come out of. Because i watch them very closely college and i can tell when a c- a guy it'll be like that guy he's putting right situation could be really good And carson wentz is one of them i remember. He's a bad year this year. But the guy's a great also one of those guys by the way that you got two minutes left. He's probably gonna take you back and i promise us probably gonna take them and win the nfc. This year is bad of a season is happening. Wow do because he's he's that guy knows asandra do it all the way through college. I remembered as a sophomore causes like this guy is a pro quarterback at ndsu is a great football program. But they don't produce pro quarterbacks and this guy's like legit and sure enough junior year that was a senior year they start talking about like a new at the may jumps up and he's like number three. There's they got another one this year. By the way north dakota state this trae lance who declared for the draft and he could be another one can be another one. That could be really great. Do i love how into These guys at that stage you are next year. If things are loosen have loosened up. You should come down me. I used to do this. sports comedy. Podcast with mark sanchez. And we went down to jordan palmer's quarterback camp that he does in the oc with all the young guys. And so it was josh. Our down there and sam darnold and joe burrow and to and and and i stepped in to to take some comedic played sports but like hey man. It's been a minute since i've outs till i've some routes and kat fucking darts josh josh out on point for just like. I caught a couple of diving catches at the sidelines from borough in from from Mark and then josh ounce up marcos dude as hard as you fucking can and so i gotta go pro on. I'll send you the so clip. And so i'm running to the sideline and do this guy. Put it first of all. He's a fucking truck. Josh down throws they're so hard hits me right between the letters below the camera and just all add to do was put my hands around. It knocked the wind out of me. Knocked me to the ground. Then i stood up like a jackass and was just like. I'm ready for the league but i mean this dude and then i go. Please tell me through that as ours you could. He's like pretty much he's like that was like an nfl speed ball. And i was like others catching that. If it's not just knocking me into the sternum you know at dominant leading for sure. Yeah so it's rates special arm talent to be able to play in the nfl. And if you don't have that com- talent you're not gonna last long. Is this why you put in buddy games your director to'real and writing debut. Why looks fucking hilarious. The cast is bonkers. I'm assuming these are all homeys or they. Just everybody fucking loves you. Love the script. But kevin dillon. Olivia munn dax. Shepard schwarzen- back at all g. Yeah it's it's it was by the way we're number one number one moving the country right now. Are you serious Mazal tov do twenty twenty eight. So bad man. It was amazing. So we're watch 'cause you know. I knew a writing this that the critics. We're gonna come after me because it is hard. It's like a it's a it's a no-holds-barred comedy. I wanted to push the envelope. I wanted this thing to be like my favorite types of movies. Which are you know something about. Mary which is dumb and dumber. Which is anything todd phillips or dumb and dumber my favorite movie of all time like comedy or exactly. Meet to five for me for sure maybe top three. I love that. I love when they have the balls to go ahead and just like i'm going to do this. I'm gonna show this. The people are gonna go. I can't believe they just want their we do that a lot. This movie and i knew there so when it came out yesterday we start the morning at twenty three and i watched it throughout the day from twenty three to seventeen to fourteen to eleven. I'm like we're going to number one. We're going to go for the top. Ten seven five three and then by the end of the night rat to my god. This is because if you if i could. If i could tell you how much work it's taken to get this movement is. It amazes me that anything is made first of all and then the battles that you have to fight for everything just to get. It finished to get edited By elektra time to you know not trust augusta distributor ago. These guys in we know we need to go now. This needs to happen in twenty twenty. I don't want to push it out to twenty twenty. One is just like an and i just learned so much. I trusted this movie work. Because i've seen it play in theaters and people lose their shit so i knew that it was funny. And i'm also hearing these bashing my movie that works for years. I knew they were going to do it but it hurts and then to see it go to number one and i was like before that was like the people will decide the people watch the stuff. They want something like this. These are the kind of movies that people want to see. Especially right now is about a group of guys who gets together every single year. They haven't done it for five years because they one of the guys got injured in as an effort to pull one of the guys back up his mom comes to the leader of the group and says you need to help. My son gets the boys back together and has cut perfect for now because we can't together we can't have been have fucking thanksgiving together and we want to be naughty. We wanna have some fun wanna let loose. And that's exactly what this movie us and sure enough man. It was such a great as literally in the car this morning. I can't believe i'm gonna admit this to you. I was taking my board to mcdonald's because we wanna we wanna make muffins paxton. Whose idea was it was it. A joy probably mine. What i'm in the car in retreive and get text. I get just a picture of the list and it says that against number one and i just i literally started by tearing up because or years of battling for this thing and putting everything i have into it in you know all the naysayers all the people all the trust that i had in it. It was treated the people. Decide that people like this movie. And i'm just so you know did i'm so pumped for him in and we're watching it My fiance tonight. So i'm I'm fired up to You know people will give me an email or a number so i can. You know not only text. You You know pictures videos me working out but but also by my thoughts on the film because due to us laying out i mean i already know. I'm going to love it. Just based on what i've seen and you even just saying the movies the comedies that influenced you and just even chat with you and seeing are are similar sensibilities. I'm like yet. Do you mentioned this earlier about being on the receiving end for auditions and stuff. And having you know the actors helmet on when you're in the director's chair and and for casting and stuff. How much does that truly help for the making the film and and was it also tough to maybe be. I don't know giving comedy direction to sorts in and or did you or is it easier because you're like they know that you are one of them. Yeah they know that. I'm one of them and they know that i'm not going to try to tell them how to be funny. Because that's why cast them. All i needed to do was each scene. I just wanted each seem to push the story forward. I knew there was something that has to happen in each scene or for us to make the story work because there is you know it is outrageous and ruckus and extreme as the movie as it's also got real underlying themes as about friendship camaraderie and brotherhood. And it's about picking her brother up when he's down. It's it's about how valuable those francis become as we get older. And and so i'm doing that so my hope and i and i remember. I call todd fields before we started this because we had our kids went to the preschool of thoughts. And he's one of my all time. Favorite directors and. I was like a little bit intimidated by the dude. Because he's just he's so good. But i said you know what fuck. It is two days before we start the movie. I'm almost done with prep. I'm just going to call and see. If he's got anything that any advice that he can impart before we go. And i called him in the answers as i. Hey man it's jot. He's like josh From kids goes do is like about to shoot this movie. we got. He's first of all congratulations on that. That is impossible to do. And i told the who's in it is like well. That's an amazing cast. Those guys are so funny one. You gotta make sure it's don't let them out funny each other. Make sure that you keep grounded keeping between the rails and you'll be good and that was really what i try to do. I just i didn't want to. They know how to be funny. I just wanted to make sure that we count it grounded and it was gonna be funny no matter And that was he was so generous. Stephen you pick up the phone huge man four years that yet. You're so right about how tough it is to get things made. So i'm sure like in the past few days you're probably just getting flooded with memories and even moments to where you're like got things almost how tough that day. What just right trying to like. Give yourself extra rewarding feeling of like men got through that tough day. We got through that and now here. We getting to see the the fruits of your labor. Did you You learn a lot about yourself when you when you go through it you know. I love what i learned was that i was able to. A good sort of problems are or because i need because inevitably probably in every single scene. Something comes up whether we don't have. We can't get the location of money. We don't have the time Whatever there's always something you gotta be able to go case. We can't do that. How do we still do the same thing differently. How do we still get the same result. And after like completely reimagined and that's one thing that i did throughout all the way through writing it rewriting it casting it shooting it editing. It was just like one is a constant sort of horse-trading. Did you ever get so. You're in the editing bay for a lot of this too. Yeah did you have with the whole. I didn't edit it. But i was in there with the editor of the whole time. Fuck were there was just a. Did you have a good problem of having too much funny shit and having to chop things down or yes yes no. I mean we had we. We only had eighteen days to shoot it. We had very little money. So we didn't we had like shoot this thing quickly And so one. They learned about editing as you can. You can do a lot of stuff to sort of move things around to make it work and you. Can you know it's all about taking a few frames off your making this just for the comic timing of it or the you can change the way a story is told by the edit. A lot and i didn't know that until i went in there and also changed the way i act now because now i know what it's like to be in the editing room so i'm an actor i'm like oh this is what they're gonna want. They're going to want options. How and so that. I just learned so much throughout this whole process into c do well. I think it's going to do all over the weekend. Oh yeah suffolk todd. Who are you getting. Hit up from a were most of these people in the film buddies already like the juice. Straight up san like olivia schwartz in the script and go. Will you do this or yeah. I knew everybody. Except kevin dillon. I knew i knew. I've noticed watson forever big vikings fan and from the same area. I knew dax through when in rome back today now always made friends. I knew dan back at oxide. Worked with them on a show called battle creek. I knew james day because he directed me on on battle creek and a new libya. Just because i've actually new dating a guy. Biggest backer today remains friends. So i just called a lot of favors i needed. Guys would come and lay it down. 'cause i couldn't pay him. They all worked for scale Open now we can pay him because they got a nice back in and Yeah i just called in as many favorites. As i could not and they all showed up and they came in late it down there dan back He was in. I was in the heat with him. And that guy is a fucking scene stealer and us just like just a true just gets funny man and i don't i don't know what he is in the film from second city you know he's an he's he's like one of the second city so he comes from that improve improvisational world yup and and he's but he's also a gifted actor like he was the hardest act he was the last guy we cast. Because you'll see when you see. The movie that shelley has to be is a very specific thing asked to be a guidance believable in that he has gone down a dark dark hall after. You'll see what happens into being a movie. He goes down the spiral he goes from the top to the bottom. We're five years and it just and then but he also had to be fearless. I mean there's full-frontal. There's stuff that i asked him to do that. He that he's jeanie doesn't care. Didn't even fucking flinch fearless man. You gotta be comedy. We'll do ura. You're the man a benefactor For a long time. And it's you're just as cool as i thought you're going to be an A very pulp for this movie and can't wait to watch and your timing couldn't be more. Perfect as comedies are You know not only in the film world but like t people need comfort food programming right now and especially during the holidays Do you mind doing quick at a quick corentin question thing in the. We'll wrap this up jerk some quick quick easy softball get to know us Is there a reality show right now that you would go on or want to go on pre or post covid alone. What's that like naked. Afraid seen alone now you got to check it out it is. It is one of the coolest shows they they take ten people from They ten people who put them in a really inconvenient part of the world. Whether it's patagonia or nor lauren cooper the store the patagonia in southern no in southern southern southern south america southern argentine. What is a software get. That sounds more interesting. So they put him in these places and they get three ten things so they bring like hooks. They don't get bring fishing. Rob Bring fishing line bring hoax compare court and act some like flint starter and they have to make their own spot to live they gotta they gotta find their own food and wherever lacked the longest wins and these people are unbelievable. So that would be one. I mean i don't know if i'd want to actually do it. But it's it's my favorite reality show for sure. That sounds amazing. So it's got a little like amazing race meets naked afraid meets Not dog the bounty hunter. What's the guy the guy in the wild who's out there. grill. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yeah it is that but they don't bring to bear in mind they don't have any camera crews around. They teach them before they go out there. They have they set him up with like certain cameras battery packs to charge my guests or maybe once a week they come in and review stockham. But they're out there by themselves and they have to shoot it all themselves of. That's even cooler all right. That's jackie gotta check out a couple of episodes season. Three's great one. Two three and six can alert a fat blunt and watch probably all seasons in about a ten hour sitting role. But he and i of dude. This is if you think that wasn't happening. I'm glad you said that. Because like i've had people to that have That i've talked about things whether it's on the potter. Not when i'm like dude. I got so baked and watch this and watch your shit and there's like okay. It's not something meant for that. But i appreciate it and i was like oh still okay. Great a meal if you're stranded on a desert island A meal like you're not your last meal but a meal that could get you through. You can have it every day. You just had this one thing and you get the forces in it But a plate that you would have to survive on what's on leg. What is on the plate yet. My mom's meatballs mashed potatoes and gravy. Which i had let she made it shoes my boy when i was in mexico for a week and she made me a bunch of frozen one. Eight two of last night so that do balsa Literally my favorite food do god. My mom's are the best you lucky bastard to get diplomats potatoes it's a homerun esque greens in. Yeah yeah 'cause there's kids watching you got to deliver the healthy answer your favorite documentary. God is so many one. That's that Recently i just watched mc millions. The mcdonald's game The the is pretty good. I wouldn't be my favorite. I would say hoop dreams spellbound. Of course the jordan jordan was the jordan jordan documentary. Who's great this or amazing. But jeffrey epstein was pretty messed up. Allen made me feel icky god. There's so can think of which one would be. Let me think on. That will come back to it. Advice for a thirty eight year old comedian trying to break in modeling. Forget about it and do something else. their dreams dreams created and broken in the same sentence. If you woke up josh the song would start playing to be the soundtrack for your day. What would it be I'm gonna go with give you some choices if you can't think of one going to go with Something fogerty nice. Maybe what is it mystic into the mystic. Great call dude. I wrote down weirdest fan message. I thought for a second weirdest fan massage but so either one. If you if you wanna put your weirdest band massage that you gotta to know where they go all right. How about this more fun. Winning a daytime daytime emmy in two thousand three or hosting the kids choice awards in two thousand thirteen. I would say got. They were both pretty special. Because i got to go up in. My mom was there at the ami. She couldn't believe because he has the bait. Lifelong soap opera fan for sunday. Be winning was a big deal and then you know when when we were in and i did the kids choice awards. Furry was pregnant with my boy. And i was cool and my sister was there. So but i'm going to say the emmy and lastly an actor that you'd like to be in a movie with or direct an actor that i'd like to be movie with direct choices. I thanks adam ray halley. Actually i would say say somebody like will ferrell. He's seems like it'd be a lot of fun. I like guys who are just a lot of fun and fearless. it'd be fun he defunct. yeah well well when. I'm auditioning for your next movie. I'll just tell you. The story of how. I came in hung over to an olive garden commercial audition wearing reading rainbow t shirt and a sport coat and said for my opening dialogue when the guy said hey just bullshit before you guys get into the lines. I said hey anyone else. He just see jurassic park three. What a bunch of bullshit and the guy goes cut and he's like what are you doing. I was like. I'm making small talk at an olive garden table. He's like dude. This is not going to happen for you. So if you wanna talk a dude. Thanks for making time. I can't wait to watch movies very pump for your congrats. I shared that. It's number one. Which is a big time and And hope hope the rest of your your quarantine in pandemic Hopefully run in the corner here soon. So maybe you come out to the comedy store and see a show. We can get some cocktails at some point. Sounds good man. Thanks again josh. i appreciate me. Thank you adam. Peace plan you got. It's cold super cyber monday. Shop online and see with an extra ten dollars off fifty plus get fifteen dollars. Kohl's cash for every fifty dollars. Spent antic an extra twenty percents off fitbit versa to is one thousand nine hundred ninety nine save on airfare and get forty percents off lego plus free store pickup job super cyber monday today only kohls dot com select styles. Look deal remember thirty. Th only ten or fifty offer. Valid november thirtieth. I'm only from co jackpot. 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Dr. Drew After Dark | Translating Drew w/ Nadav Itzkowitz | Ep. 105
"Oh this is already starting. Well take up the bottom or the top or does it matter. I think he just pick whatever up to you. Because i have a theme song though. I feel like a match game music or something. Come on now. No no no. No no not you. dr drew. And this is dr drew after dark. These vise abduct grafton dark may contain sexual in content and behind the suitable young children. That's right welcome. Dr dark everybody that phone number eight one eight two five three one. Six nine three gives call with great voice messages. You always leave and of course. We got a stack of emails to get through. You can send those a dr direct jarkko gmail.com special guests and everybody dobbin the house in the house and sock souffle. My friend and we are. I gotta i gotta want everything and making sure that we get. Uvc late. i don't wanna get. I'm tired of being sick. i get sick. I was sick for ten weeks. I'm finally finally finally over. This bs are myself again. But i have not been glad to hear brain fog gone. I still have the ring my ear. But but the brain brain fog will come with. All the time fatigue is fatigue is gone. I'm just what do you mean your health. But i can do the things i couldn't do before you just do a work. You're gonna wanna work. Yeah and it's i. I'd forgotten my usual pace actually have been three months now. You're you're you're paces quite crazy. I like the fact that you could go for eight hours a single day of just straight talking wild to me. That's not eight hours of taking care of dying people. That's the more intense house about you. Radio warranty trust me being a doctor. I think is probably harder. But i as mike heated up speaking of talking for eight hours a came across a tweet that i wanted to share with y'all ended avi was and i am not transphobic. I've no i trans ally but this is funny so listen to this. Stop saying good boy. Good girl to your pets. This kind of gendered languages. Normalizing the myth of canine. Sexual die morphism in d. legitimizes. The lived experience of trans dogs. Yeah let me ask you drew. Is there other pictures. transit issued. A trans dog looks like there. Hormones that you could prescribe to your dog. If they're making it seem like oh. I love it. I love yeah. That's what they're talking about those kind of dogs because now that's starting to make sense to me. They're not though they're talking about saying good girl. Good boy you your canine animals. Now if you're talking about humans pretending to be dogs which is a whole road. We'd not gone down a long time but as long as we're there That's a word. I'm i'm in. I'm fully supportive of people into canine players. That we call the play but play the dog masks and everything. Yeah yeah player stuff that makes you said but play so come on. This is chris. Anyone play. I am fully supportive of not saying good wanker. Go fully on board with that. You know you could call me unprogressive. But i'm gonna keep on doing that even in the world. No no no. I'm gonna call my girl my dog boy or girl because look. I'm a biologist. That's feeling to me. Literally biologist and one of the i understand that there are mixed states of all types is genetic development creates all kinds of states but for purposes of biology things that create ova called a female and things that great spermatozoa called the male just for the experiment azoic convention convention already. We're going down and instinct pat. That obviously wrong. You're right see. I'm picking up on all your doctor stuff. Drew well to that point. We're going to do a game not yet. Not yet later on. We're going to do a game. Where i challenge with dr stuff that we've talked about on this show quite a bit and you are going to challenge me with made stuff that has been and they'll be videos to to support these things. Yeah buddy so before we get into things. I wanna talk to you a little bit. But i'm sort of preoccupied. Now yeah i. I love seeing the whimsey in your eyes. Emails are submitted interesting emails. I love these mom. Hey hitler i'm eighteen occurred boyfriend. Nineteen firmly believes that women. Give birth from the anus. Your boyfriend believes that a woman delivers through the nine. He believes that is where women are fertilized and his why he refuses to perform anal. This is not a gag refuses to perform anal. Because he thinks he's going to have a baby a baby period he. He's that's where it all happens. According to him so he thinks okay so he's raw dogging through the other one. Yeah he's young canal for okay. Let's keep reading how he could dodge that. All these years is beyond me. Trust me angie. It's beyond us to leave him. Because he gives phenomenal head. The mommies are very pragmatic. My question is eighteen and nineteen year olds right. What ridiculous medical beliefs practices. Have your patience. Acquaintance had over the years. You bet i'm coming up in may love you forever jeans weird stuff weird pre. I mean i've you know. I love line of stuff. I've heard very weird distortions and ideas. Yeah usually there's math involved in a lot of that though. No no and usually they're not this off bay about as op. Basically you feel like there's a lot of kind of leaning into a lot of it is fear of having anal because judges will drip down or fear of gives your oral sack because of some transmission of something. A lot of sort of. I would put more on these sort of phobia category careers that are close to realistic. Closer realistic was sort of unjustified. This is outer shit. Yeah okay i feel like just you know maybe. Show your boyfriend a diagram of the human body and be like these teams. Don't connect me fuck me. And my. But jesus christ oh boy what. We're five minutes fucked me. The but yeah i think this is going to get demonetized. That's fine we'll be fine we'll blank. Let's bleep guy. So i was having a girlfriend but i was not able to come which in turn gave me blue balls. After we finished. I went upstairs. Felt rumble my stomach like diarrhea feeling gambled decided to fart. It was incredible wet fart at that moment. I knew i'd shit myself though sick. Instead of usual brown it was a substance very similar to come the. yeah angie. Here comes another one you wonder. What misconceptions are i feel one coming brown and So my question is that. I fought my own calm because that's such blue balls. That's what question is did. Come build up so badly that it spilled. I don't even know what to do with this. Because you've got to understand that organs. Like the seminal vesicles and the colon do not communicate right. They're not connected tubes in any way like in anyway way. Now your bladder you can get divor- titular abscesses and they could road near bladder about that. But that's how you get septic right. Yes and you can start. You can start paying out shit by that but just a little bit of brown. So the tubes are connected. When there's an abscessed they get over to the several vesicles and stuff like that. They don't make you. Could you could wipe out. Brown and brown out. Is it possible that my body rejected the saliva swab. We continue my girlfriend's pussy you. Oh my god. So he thinks like the lake monetize so he thinks what he that giving oral sex magically sent the secretions from his girlfriend all the way down to his anus. five minutes. Aiding getting there be what you put your mouth takes about eight to twelve hours to get. Your is not even the way you i hear. You're you're trying to be more healthy. Yeah i wanted to bring this up with you. Yeah well let's do it. Because i hear that very soon. The a vaccinations for covid are going to be opened up to severely obese people Yes and i found out. I'm point one away. Po point one meaning. Bmi point wannabe by away from being extremely obese. So so you need to jack it up. You need to get on it. Overheats more to make sure you get the season. That's what i wanted to confirm with you. I'm glad you're on the same page. And so so. I i saw some tweets or some social media posts about christina making fun of you for being extremely obese. I'd say more encouraging. So she was like she went. Wants me to get healthy. I wanna get oh. I heard she was making fun of you. So i gotta talk to her about it. I don't know. I don't know if that's how i read it. I'm trying not to be enough. But but the question here. Is it a pragmatic how much i mean pounds. You have to gain to get to that. Bmi i think probably not a need maybe one or two chinese japanese meals with a lot of soy sauce. What if like beautiful. Congratulations what if you go into the vaccine right. I don't know how it works. I just know that. I'm like right on the you've got to look like you're obese and then give right down. Here's my body weight. And so you told me. How do i look extremely thank you. You look obese. Not that's great. You bring me up and then you bring me right back down but but you look like manageable obesity to me. Don't look like jesus christ again. Bring a crane to get dav his car. I'm not worried about your skin breaking down. I'm not worried about severe metabolic problems. function if you get sick that kind of thing i'm dense i'm dents however we do need to manage this is something we gotta do. We got after. I get the vaccine though it sure of course. So we're all pragmatists so let's be real so this is what i wanted to run by you before you do that though. I'm wondering tell me again your relationship status right now. I'm single but committed singling not not really wanting to get involved in not really like i'm not against to let me just say culturally speaking. Yeah yeah ladies. Don't like extremely obese. I got no. I'm not even going there because there's something for everybody. Oh if i want. If i want family i should know not even going there. What i'm discussing. What i'm going towards is males need females. I agree and without a female around. We lose our shit. And i have a feeling first of all. It should motivate you to lose weight to one but once you get one she will keep you straightened out. Yeah manner not good left to their own devices. I've boned in this state of boned and skinnier states. I'll tell you what boating and skinnier states is way more fun than boning in extremely obese. I understand however the audience audience needs to know why Let's see there's blood circulation right. There's that he can't get direction now. I could get it but by keep it some. I mean sometimes not blood circulation. That's estrogen the adipose tissue converts to saas to estrogen boehner definitely software. When i'm fat estrogen. Estrogen sick keep going so software boehner. I mean that's really the biggest thing i noticed. There's shifting away is. I've always definitely. There's less real estate to work with wendy imagining. That positioning is your. If you like different positions you sort of limited. You'd never i cut down. You can't just do everything you wanna do so built character. Congratulations on all this. I'm fully adopted. I'm not sure what i by the way. How gross the studio. I thought that was like fingernails. Don't we clean up after. That's why i brought my. Uvc one but okay. So you're you're going to lose some weight. How are you going to do that. See i usually just switch over to kito lose like twenty thirty pounds within a month. Okay just kinda like get healthy. After that you know you're like low carbs exercise then and stuff fuck exercise work smarter not harder baby. Boy i Y fuck because i could lose the weight without independent of weight loss. Why fuck well. It's like look. I'm i mean. I know you're a workaholic. So i feel like you probably understand some of this. But it's i like to either work and get things done at work. I understand that or complete opposite. Just have free time and fuck off to how however bites but it needs to be you. I'm gonna advocate that you have third category. You have a third category that you just routine the it could only be. You can only be thirty minutes. It says i need nappy. An hour and a half. We literally all you have to do is bring some running shorts here. You know some shoes and go go do it before you go. fuck off. Running is just something you know what i mean. Just go to go walk. Go do whatever but do for thirty minutes and do more everyday of it. That's all you gotta do it. Trust me look. i know. this isn't bad advice. can i boil. Because there's this whole thing that goes with diet extra address it in a second but but you will add your sense of wellbeing and it will add to your your productivity here at work and it will just everything will get better because i like a workout every day type of dude and like it was the happiest. I've ever been worth it back. It's important to know that you're the person that can do it. Yeah because some people can't do it not these sort of hated or they feel baron there anywhere you fall in the spectrum curious your your face came into my consciousness as i was saying this and i imagine you're a one after the other. Do you love working out. Yeah yeah. I mean i fucking hate it. It's too much work. you know. I look good as shit. I'm strong do what god gave you. Still be better with some working out of carbon copy of any minus minus the six pack. I tell you what man if If you could be me arm wrestling then i'll start working. I don't do it for that. I i i really. I really enjoy it so to me. I'm lucky lucky. Because i i miss it. If i don't do it. I really makes a difference in our feel i. I really like it feel any was at the other end and no judgment no judgment except that you you you're in the middle you'll benefit benefit but you're also somebody who can do it so i just choose not to now the so. There's a thing with diane exercise where you have to quitting smoking. You have to get to the having done that either. You haven't stopped smoking. Fuck yeah dude. We got some worked on the boxes. Them needs to be number one. He switched to vape. Fact that you don't want to smoke cotton candy can use which today know why because i hate it you can get stuff. That tastes just cigarettes. It's not the same. Try it. And see i'd rather. What did your parents do therapy. And i'm learning quite a lot because as a as a sort of authority figure who cares about trying to advise you productive ways. Yeah it's a wall you know what it was is that i worked I worked at a place that had like a doctor on staff and there was a big sales team and so like she always did like speeches to the sales team when we had like our week. How knowing that she was like. Hey look a lot of guys are over forty and as long as you quit smoking before thirty. Five all this is reversible. Because he's thirty two. Yeah so it's time or you want to get three more years in well. I wouldn't advise it. I was going to quit by by the way we used to think that. It's not and we think now. Now we think whatever you accumulate is what you accumulate and then just kind of keeps going from there. You know what. I say to that drew. Why wearing all right. So trust me. He'd get into one of these situations. Because i've had many many patients over the years that no no no no and then something happens. It's like why didn't you tell me is sorta like. Of course i would change your. Why didn't i change. Or i don't think i'm going to get blindsided by whatever lung disease. I get says all kinds of crazy shit. That can have been away. Okay so like cigarettes Diet exercise you have to get to a point where you decide. You're going to do it. We asked a real decision. You can't be like. I'm gonna. I'm gonna i'm thinking about it. You gotta get past contemplate ever go. It starts now or south on tuesday. It started text ride. Whenever i was on a track record to quit smoking where 'cause i remember i think maybe the doctor said thirty years old beforehand where you could reverse everything. Don't wait. she's wrong. I get your your way better off. That's for sure. But what i did was i was like. Oh you know hypnotism is the thing that kind of works. Yeah so i tried to do that. And then i was sola down by my hypnotists that she'd like i remember. She made me fill out a packet. That took me like three hours that made me realize like oh do i have a troublesome relationship with my family. I was like learning all sorts of things with like answering out this questionnaire that took me a long time to fill out like make. Sure you send this to me a week before so i could read everything and like be prepared for our session. Yeah and so. I show up and then she just like sorry. Hold on let me just catch up on this real quick and immediately a terrible mood. I'm like i found out. I'm not sure i like a lot of people in my life and what you're doing right now is you're telling me that that is kind of like not important i i. It's so immediately. I got real mad. It didn't work on me. And i was like this. I'm smoking for you. Might contemplate your own role in all of that and think about other ways you might have addressed that whole experience. Sure all right. I'll bring it up in therapy having Having said that you need to pick a date and it's not soon because you gotta get the vaccine. I right so let's let's get you gotta get healthy. Get the vaccine is not necessarily getting get like getting the vaccine. Six more meals kobe. You believe you don't want come. Don't you would not do well with one of the only people here. The hasn't gotten and by the way ashkenazi. Jews do not do greater in the cancer situation so sick. The smoking is bothering me quite a bit. I haven't done an ancestry thing. And i don't know what percentage ashkenazi i am but it's probably in the high ninety. I'm guessing it's high if you have as much as fifty year in the zone. Fuck yeah yeah sure. and so. there's this thing called color dot com. It's a cheek. Swab thing you can do. That will test you for the common real risk factors for cancers and things lynch stuff like that which i have from ashkenazi. But there's not a lot. There's not a lot of cancer in my family. All right good well. That's up so far so good. All right good So anyway but but anyway i wanna see you pick a date And do yeah. I really do because i think you'll do great. I think you'd do terrific for this. But i'm pretty good but but the key though is like it happened to me too. I was I was. I go all over the place with diet. Diet and exercise always the same. But died i go and i finally just gave up to that and i paid attention but it was not really diligent and i was doing a health and fitness podcast with mike catherwood. The guy has to do love line patrol. Yeah it's like. Oh my yeah second mike and He finally went. You need to do this. Need to try a car. Kito he would convince me. That would work for me. And i just interviewed the guy that does the carnivore diet. And he was an impressive dude and he's a he's a physician like his point of view and stuff and i was like you know what the aim to its carnivore to be pretty easy for me. I'm going to. I just decided. In that moment i was going to do it. That was three and a half years ago. And i've been doing still on now. That's what i was like with. Kito did that intermittent fasting and lost sixty pounds. But here's the deal A cova caused me to be a little looser with it. i sort of down sort of pandemic. wait. Yeah i will. I had to get some carbs. And i wasn't really eating that much and my point is if you commit to it. Don't think of it as hey. I'm going to dilute and this is how can eat for now on period and yeah ok well. 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But i have dealt with quite a bit okay. Is there really a difference in gambling and investing. Those words are interchangeable right. Well they are not interchangeable but some people think they are. Yeah so Investing is you know. It's a different discipline than gabby like my dear friend who is in a financial investment guy and he when when you when you take one step off of a discipline of assessing accompany and looking at its technical behavior and projecting its sales in investing in that company. If you step one inch off of that. He calls that gambling. Well what i do. Is i go to a casino. Assessed new york stock exchange. Now it's a. It's a company based in latvia. It's a website based so it's jesus it's you look at the roulette table assess. I've been to lafayette. It's we would also help somebody. Stony stony on their websites are great. Estonia's awesome unless gamble okay. okay. So i assess the roulette table and i were lettuce gambling rate. Ow game like i'm thinking. I should invest in relent. No no no. Roulette is gambling. Then why am i making so much money in it. Are you last. Night i did. Are you making money gambling. I mean overall not yet. But i'm really close. I'm on the road to break even right now. Baby just got to keep going look right now. I'm at unrealized losses. Right you know how you realize those losses you stop you got. That's right and you gotta keep on fucking going to you. Get those unrealized gains. And then. I don't know how to withdraw from this account. I've only been depositing into it for the last year and a half. So i'm trying to get to a point okay. So we'll be okay with withdrawing from it all right so there is such thing as healthy gambling. I think i'm doing it. I i would argue that. The difference is if you weeks if you start with him. Only going to invest axe right. Yeah i'm i only put in what i'm okay with not have time contingent quality to it. It's just got to be axed right. It doesn't okay in other words. I can't do. I'm never gonna stop do x. Plus one in three months right okay. It's just ex. Yeah it's just. When i get to ex- i'll do x in what you put in. Is your gambling money. No but the goalposts keeps change. That's what i'm saying. You can't do that now. You're now you're gambling if if if you can put in it's adult entertainment at that point. Yeah i'm doing that. He then it's entertainment expense. Yeah i'm definitely writing these off. Oh god you're thinking so fucked. Is that bad everything. Everything i say you come back with something. That is a distortion. Yeah i think. I thought about this a lot. I know which is which is in the world of addiction of all types. We call that assembling office skating thinking jibing stinking thinking. Should i be more worried about my gambling. I don't think he's gone bad yet. No one is not knowing that. I've owed money to is found me like every addiction. Jesus like every diction a you have to hit bottom. You have to have to get your attention that i i can't convince you but you should know that i'm worried. I know you're not worried not yet. I don't want everyone around me. He's worried because anybody who from the control room wanna to help me or ring in or give me some facts. Give me some truth. Oh and he's in there too. Yeah any. I'm not saying. I'm not saying to bust out him. I'm just saying i am. I missing anything. Is there information. I need now. The only thing that i would say is make sure you buy the dip man going man. You got this i need. I need to hear from everyone in the room. Next diamond hands baby next. Chris might be on your side chris. I'm just watching the show. I was gonna say no. No no i was gonna say. Chris is they say in person and he just proved it. He's staying out of trouble. He's not as drama. He's just letting it go but has tons of information that i could use by the way i mean. I think i've been pretty forthcoming guys. I have been pretty forthcoming right. Yeah but look. You should buy the dip gonna average out that cost. Maybe what does that mean by the dip in the wheel. Well it's hard to buy the dip at the roulette wheel losing a lot. Pull up a stock graph please. I understand what but has not talked about companies yet. Is there also a company version of your wheel. Well yeah that's the other side of my investing. I invested the casino. Sometimes i invest in my schwab account. Sometimes okay and how do you make choices there. Is it thoughtful. You evaluate these companies or sometimes it's thoughtful. Sometimes i just see like headline of an article. There's just like hey we'd stocks are cool and then i just kind of like google. We'd stock ticker symbols. And i'm like all right. This is the first one that came up and then i investment. I think you could do better. I think you'd be better but everyone everyone knows somebody that does that for real year for me. I i understand. And i and i wouldn't. I wouldn't say. Oh my god that's terrible. I would rough couple weeks though we'll talk. Let's talk about this because because Shit you're genuinely concerned concern. But but if you're gonna at least that piece if you're gonna do it you can do sane job with you. Look here's the thing you know. Sure am i invested in stocks absolutely. Yeah let's put it this way. I'd rather you be doing that than just numbers. Well because like when i invest in stocks like it's never it's not that much difference. I'm not trying never into pump and dump some never into like all yell. It's get to short squeeze and stuff. It's whatever i invest in on holding onto for years it's coming it's companies that i believe. Okay well let's good. That's that's getting toward towards investing. Yeah i wish you would. I do the same thing with me. Because i really invest in red fourteen black seventeen black twenty and twenty three. Those are the numbers number. Yeah well you can calculate the game stop blackberry. You can do if you if you if you're doing that. Why don't you go. Look at people that do statistical analysis on roulette and when we come up with a formula that you can kind of begin to approximate something like takes the fun out okay. Let's i usually give up. Let's i would love to hear some voice message. Yeah let's do that man you're really hey mommy's thirty something year old man interested in starting a family soon. They i have done is there. A medical reason together circumcision. Does it keep the child healthier Curious about your thoughts coming from a jewish gene who Father only time you pass out ever was during my grip. So that's where my quite. Oh i see his word that he's going to pass out during keep an eye all right. Yeah here's the forest has no influence on anything except except the world health organization has a campaign to get people to be circumcised because you have lower transmission of hp at hiv. If you've been circumcised h gets caught on the dick skin. Whatever reason i. I'm not sure they really know why. But but the fact yes. That's good way of saying the should be gets caught translate. Yeah you should use all the time. You should really member the member. The they used to do on saturday night. Live way back in the seventies the broadcast for the hard of hearing little before. Okay well more. Jim morris morris. What's his last morris. Marcin is the one black either. Original cast is really used to do that baseball. Anybody good tha that guy believe. Anyway this way. Before eddie murphy. And so he. They used to go in the news today and he would be down the corporate screaming in the news today. That was for the hard of hearing. Okay so. I want you to be my translator like that. I got you. I want you to be there. Translate everything you say drew so get the good you dig skin trimmed and you won't get the hip. Maybe go and people argue whether the thriller not but again they're just trying to on the margins do the best they can to reduce hiv and hp and this seemed in when you're dealing with tens and hundreds of millions of people. It has a measurable effect. Next message is i'm from canada. I'm a twenty five year old female trying to save you from another question about brown Long shorts My boyfriend and i don't really ever have sex. And i'm at the point now but if i try to do it myself kind of thing It actually hurts like just getting around. Search weird is normal. And is there anything i can do to help that to make myself more comfortable all maybe get the sex drive my boyfriend up tonight mine as no one likes to you know four plus unless it's from fun things right so anymore lube is what i would say for her. I think she's talking about vibrator he'd just being a rouse hurts. Her like a blue ball kind of thought any type of friction any type of action. No they're not having any sex no but she say when she you know i don't think she she would've said if i insert something she didn't say that if i rouse myself okay. So so. here's the deal women get blue balls and that's essentially what this is not quite the same thing but it's very similar. You're gonna blue over balu. i got you torres. Blue cars look. Okay that put that on t shirts okay An audit already. Don't worry i see him laughing back there. If you come up with another acronym for it. Please let me know who the bbc so she needs to take care of business for herself much more often for sure she should feel bad about that but let me say let me just say now no she is take care of business and she needs to be kinda easy with yourself to begin with the whole blue ball situation in yeah So having settled that let me let me a general position statement and this is not if you have a relationship that unconsummated or sexless. And it's working for you wonderful. This is not for you. When i'm about to say in general in general if there's no sexual relationship there's something going on the something going on And that's something right. It's a good gauge on the relationship or the or the male partner particularly now unless there is some sort of religious or moral something you know then all bets are off right if you guys are both committed to. We're not gonna do this because of our beliefs. Fine great but if it's just happening spontaneously that nothing's happening there in means something now. What could it mean. You're since you're my translator. What kinds of things do you think it could be You know they're just their love language. Maybe they're not reading each other log that yet. Okay thank you. Think bigger You just got too much those balls and bottleneck a. He's gay straight bi. He has a medical problem. And i just got feedback yesterday from somebody who i brought this up with on a. I don't think it was on one of these. It might have been on one of these voice messages. I told them that he had a proactive. Agree had low testosterone his doctors kim to sasha and i said find out why you can. You can have a project an owner. They're very common. He had a proactive noma. And they put him on pergola or something. And shrunk the tumor and it's to saas. Ron came back shocking. And those balls. He had no libido so when a when a young male has no libido you got to look into then you then you kind of dial back from there and go through. You have trauma or something. Something happened at him or then finally and it's actually physical trauma like like Well other medical problems for a tour but yet but childhood sexual trauma that i was going to be like. Oh you close the drawers. Then that will. I mean yeah but no But then the next thing would be sort of interpersonal relationship. That cheating is you know i mean. That's that's down the road as getting. That's a that's down the road a bit Don't women immediately think it's that that is down the road once you've dealt with the medical medical problems in sexual orientation stuff like somebody the it could be somebody who's struggling struggling to come out and try and you know. I don't think any of this i would say be kind with all of it. Be deep because it's something is up and we need to help him find a solution would also like to say for the lady that called in. This is not your fault. I was just going to say that. I think one of the reasons i'm zeroing in on the male particularly in this case is because she's got an engine she's ready to go and so i know she's good and she's attracted to him and everything's fine and of course women always make it. They're like they did. They caused it. He's not attracted me. No no no. So i would say i would say never on that one okay. Almost ever he wouldn't be with you. He didn't want to be with you even if he's even if he's struggling with his sexuality still attractive. Wants to be with you right. You still likes so so in in terms of easing back into not being hurt. When she's pledging herself she just needs to go slower goes for use your hand use your hand before the vibrator have okay. They don't aggressively bring technology. Yeah don't once you're once you're putting it into a one of those what are those compressor air compressors and things. Nowhere suck air compressors. Nothing like that to start with. Give me another one. He's a good. We have so much to get into your doctor. mommy. I am twenty seven. And i've always had a really low sex drive left to my own devices. I usually only create it. Maybe once a month and even longer so right now. I'm with the love of my life. I feel super comfortable with him and super attractive to them but obviously this is a problem. The question for you is is. Are there any supplements home balances. I can take tests. I need to have adjusted. Shut this off multiple times and it's super frustrating. I read up on testosterone and seems to be only for postmenopausal. Obviously i'm not she's right. Horny take forty. How do we make this chick worn. I'm going to bet. She's on a birth control pill. Oh yeah that does mess up with a lot of and the doctors blow it off constantly. Particularly the hyper justin pills. Some women shut them down completely. If you're on any sorta hormoner any sort of medication. Blame the medication. Okay because it's very common and physicians are notorious for blowing that off. So now if you're not on anything Usually you know you you usually. Then it becomes a psychological issue right then it it. Can i step it up. Can i make it. A priority can still be engaged with my boyfriend and then called mismatch sexual desire right And then you guys cut into go eight. You hit a middle ground. Where it's once a month for her twice a week for him. Guess what it's once a week and for you. It's he has to take themselves onto week and for you. You have to kind of figure out ways to do your part to get yourself engage so you're to do it once you need to ease into it without any robots until the robot might help her. You know what i mean. Who knows shove shove to in a new chef three in you and then dr drew says anything i was. I was so excited about having a on now. I'm not so sure. I not doing a good job. You've been doing a good new that you failed. You failed on that once. Wants pacific avenue. I'll take it can be with my gosh. These emails are so good. okay. I'm twenty three a male brain when having a conversation tend to struggle to remember some words speaking spanish but my english held la better. I just have brain farts. I guess In other words. Why i'm thinking to myself. But once it transitioned rained a tongue. I i sound tokes. Talked up his. Somebody beat me. thanks you know. These are very common things for people especially your bilingual. You know because you're thinking in one language and you're talking in another. It may be but i mean it to have brain farts as you get older a million different reasons to it if it's hard for what it's high due to alcohol pa alcohol. We'd medication can all contribute to sleep is sleep gambling. Anxiety is a very common laws. This is called blocking anxiety. Makes you block so the thinking that this could happen. Makes you makes it happen. That's me i've had that happen. I literally been sitting there and it gets really bad if i'm sleep deprived of thing. Sorry any no. You don't like sleep when i'm super gets bad. I i remember one time episode. When i got very anxious and i blocked terribly is was years goes on the today show and i was sitting this far away from matt lauer and i started having trouble. I blocked and i saw him. Look at me like leaning in liquor. You and i immediately kicked me into a alert as osha. I gotta take care of. I get my shit together. I got it together. Push through today. Show you gotta go take a shit and then you know i just i just got it together after the rocas and got my words out and but if there are any other neurological symptoms of course talk to your doctor about it they they can be an early sign of something. But i wouldn't worry too much will you've heard me talk about our friends. Better help a better. Help is an excellent resource. I upset patients their family there and had very excellent really all the reports. I get back for better. Help have been outstanding. You simply fill out a questionnaire to assess your knees better help with an match you with your own. Licensed professional therapist start communicating under forty eight. Hours it's not a crisis line is not self help. Secure online professional counseling better. Help counselors have a broad range of expertise which may not be available in your area. The services available for clients worldwide. 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Twenty five percent off your next order when you use the promo code drew at checkout once again that is cb d m d dot com promo code drew for twenty five percent off your purchase of superior cbd products from cbd md. Okay time for a game time for the game now this there's clips associated with this game too. I am told which is often because young babies although he is just an up and coming producer here at why made studio coming and he has completely put his game together. I don't know it's on these cards you don't know what's on your cards but essentially what's happening here. I mean zealot. Do you want to explain what's going on. Like houses game going to work win more importantly we have decided that yet. He has always go all right so basically. The premise of the game is you guys have both been doing the show for a long time. So we're testing to see drew. Do you now possess the knowledge that it takes to really call yourself a mommy and new'dove producer of the show. Can he now call himself a doctor. So you guys are going to test each other on. Why am h terms and medical terms and the person that can define more of those terms wins. So it's a keeping score we will be in solo keeps okay So if i win you have to give me your medical license. And i take over all of your practices all right. Good luck with that. My friend see how that goes down with a with the board medical quality assurance and be with my patients. Enjoy a really good talker enjoy enjoy. This is already starting. Well do i take up the bottom or the top or does it matter. I think he just pick whatever up to you. Oh good to song though. I feel like we need like a match game music or something. Come on now you know now you realize up above we need. Did you guys come up with something like that or it too much of an ask. It's maybe for a future episode of can't do it all right there will be. And what are we calling this. He's a name doctor. Mommy mommy or doctor. Mommy your doctor your your doctor. Okay okay you wanna start. Yes i do. Okay the dove. Let's do it like the password. Password is okay. Okay okay corporal. Ooh corpora corpora fajor. If i remember correctly discussed it many times. I can't remember a slowdown. Yeah lots of video. Yeah lots of video can be a lot nicer to i on lots of video. You we saw. Couple of actual cooper jacks but a lot of Oh i know. Corporal flatter corporal material house. I think i know this. Okay so this is. I was confused on whether or not this was a problem with your bathing suit area or problem with your brand. I think it's a problem with your brand well. Anyone that engage the phase. You're probably something wrong with their brain. So i think what this is is it's like can i can even more hands hold on. Let me do the. I guess i guess and then if that's completely off you give me more right. It's when you see someone eating plaster you see someone eating toilet paper. See someone eating all these weird things have not only. Is it on my strange addiction on tlc but they are also have something called core. Corporal asia very good. Guess guess that's called pica syndrome pika pachysandra very good. Guess very good yes close no eating eating parfait java eating And i'm gonna give you the great hint. Yeah eating come. Nope i've said no to that. And now i'm going to say here's here's my ucla. Just having all over this. Mike that corpro phages eating establish that the corporal piece and it's not eating come little longer and longer. The corporal piece is foundational to your mom's house like there's lots of corporal materials discussed boobs then spent time with lobs house now. I'm starting to think. Is this method. This method related. How much how many guests give him solo. I mean you could just say this one thing you should tell them all right. Yeah eating your own shit. Typically you're on. I suppose eating any show before pager eating any that's going to be hard to get check your check me out of that show. Is it eating your own shit exclusively or is it. He's gonna look it up. Oh shit looks like we're the same level of dr. All we know is just eating something right or good. You got the failure part. Oh there's a picture of a dog dogs do it all the time. Dogs do it all the time. Okay so i was close. I was. Let's say i was half. I got half of that. Let's give me half a point on that. So yeah i would give half point. Getting pica was pretty good. Yeah right almost neyland. yeah okay. Who's home here now. And what about it. What does that mean. If you're a mommy what does that mean to you. Well i think our rpc rpc was home here waiting for some Convict beat the shit out of so that it. It's very close. It's you nailed the rpd. I'd say you were. You were closer than. I was closer to corpus asia. It actually came from that right. I remember him saying no. Yeah i think actually the you doing. The house visit was no no. Maybe it was the potter. Yeah we called it home here now. Yeah so home here now was when we first talked to when we first found are we were confused on whether or not he was so excited and saying i'm here now come over or just like just saying something else and so what is it. What did we think he met with like. That was a big debate on why And and i and there was a consensus. I mean moment. now that i'm here now. Let's go right so we have a. We have a clip to To confirm that. I love it. I haven't seen this so long like old home day. It's been a minute with rpg. It's like having arraigned. We're bringing into tv on the cart into the big stuff to do. You have stuff for the medical stuff too or is it just the white stuff. Just the okay. Okay yeah i mean we could look at pictures of dicks if you. I mean we will right now about to do that so we go but guys love the fuck fuck. If you're a hot black guy you wanna fuck maniac twenty three and ninety five if you wanna move in you can move in but you gotta thought the anne i need to be fucked a lot man. Get free food free rent and everything else. Man's gilman combined men from jail homeless or Your thug wanna come within a franken. Chul-man free renchik. It'll fuck me this. You beat the home now. These seamy right come up with today man so the question was is he saying home here now or is he saying man out. I'm here now. I'm here very possible. But i will tell you what and watching that video is like watching movies or something right. It takes me back I've seen this in a while. And the first first introduction. Rpc three years and sort of early in the he made a debut episode four twenty. We're like really close to episode six hundred this point and we still kinda talk about it right and we have a relationship with him and i know him. He's a and seeing that is is. It gets extra super bizarre. It's really weird thing for him to be saying to note the end there was something and they're not when you see it now. They're not an accident that we became so enamored with. There's something magical crazy about it that it's sort of extraordinary. It's lightning in a bottle. Yeah by the way. My daughter wants to go with us to coney island when we do his show. I don't think so. Yeah you're getting it for you. Trust me okay. Now she She with me. I was talking about him at dinner brooklyn and she was like. I'm going to that. That i can't wait to see that dr drew's daughter. All i could really tell you. Be careful what you wish for it. That's right password is yeah hypospadias hypospadias. Slow speed was talking about it. A lot hypospadias. A lot after feeling has to do with dick bumps on the dick bumbling I will i hold on all right. There's some cavernous tunnels inside the penis. Let's you say penises right okay. You're the right organ system right extra again. Ca- can i. 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Any those holes can occur anywhere along anywhere there. Look at that i love that they put the butthole has probably covering love. They draw in a but because you could see that one of the places that can happen is in the Like a female. Jesus christ so you could during development you can have any many now. What what do we do with that from a transgenders tampa. We have to magically say. That's we should repair that. This is what people are advocates took. Don't repair record areas of development. Now you just repair can make bring out to the tip. Common procedure three stitches. No not operators real operate three states. You gotta bring it all the way to the tip right. If you're starting at the you know the right 'cause it's actually like tunnels that are going to different areas up more than just like. Oh let's just close the we've got it you gotta get sometimes. Some some of the excess. Sometimes there's nothing going to the tip or all. It can be have all kinds of the. Thank you for the coach. I'm just trying to translate for the people of my friend one. Okay all right. Because i got to half points have point. You have one full point man. Let's see okay. We're doing this one double pipe. Classic what is i class. I've heard of the double pipe. Classic i sh- is a bit of an og term. You know no no hold on. And i tell you what pops into my mind. Maybe they're right or wrong okay. I've heard you guys use this term. I'll give you a hint. Did i see it on the live. Show i don't think so like this might have been before your time is before my time double pipe class. I'll give you another hint. It's extremely rare and for the most part you will remember when it happened to you. I'm so glad i'm stumping classic. I may be no doctor. But i give it head. We don't have a clue for all right. Yeah it's more of an explanation so double pipe. Classic is when you burp and fart at the exact. Oh yes yes crazy equal. Yep that's very rare i understand. It's it's not that rare however under some voluntary controlled by the way. it's not. oh yes not not the way that this. Oh okay it's just you got to come in and you you you really time. It sure people can like berbon command. So here's my here now. That people on command. How's that work. You have to have one in chamber so you can't just be like i don't know i've seen but i've seen ladies que- on command you can draw aaron and push the howard stern guy that he's able to bring stuff in a back. There are those talented people which burp on-command you. You just blew cashew that as now. And here's why a double pipe classic adult pike. Classic could be if you have one in now if you have one of the chamber and then you swallow air you can now have some control could happen. Yeah that's inauthentic and that doesn't count out a classic pipe it's literally a fraud to it. Can't be brought into the hall of fame can't be remembered i understand. I'm not sure everyone would understand that. But i understand full zero so my suggestions. We watched some videos. And then we'll go. We'll clean the pallet or what's wrong with some more questions video cool guy. Oh jeez since since we already been off the rail in this show. Let's do cool guy stinky pussy. Yeah let's do it. Your giants stinks. Not your blood. Don't you know that your blood is not much stinking bitch. You're michele psycho. Don't take it out on the blood network really. You want to commit suicide already. 'cause you blamed blood excuse you. That is implicit a lady okay. Let's say what the verge of being and with there's a beer you acting like your blood is stinking. What blood is eating a. Pb and j. If a black to actually sting they will not even Transfer into people who actually need blood transferred okay. Pb and you're going to come from the trash but you don't want your pussy just smell. The dick be so leveled on compassionate compassionate really worth me. Love confession it. She's like sucking on the sandwich. I you wanna go crowd of people because you fucking stink and you got a fucking disease now that actually what i just heard in this actually brings up a question that i didn't know i had before you ask it though i let's call that person today because i think earth safe zone for us You know blood does get a little bit of a fun when it's old sure and you leave it in an anaerobic environment. Like vaginas tastes like pennies. It's it makes his with the bacteria and can add to the funk so they're right that it's generally the bacteria create the fog and that's a whole separate issue but blood is not a primary cause but contributes. It's variable it's variable an under. They're not quite on base but go ahead. What's your here's my question could use period blood transfusion. no okay. Because she was saying that there's no matter how dare you be cancelled. I'm dr. they said she yeah. Cancel that'll up. Oh my god fit smoker public hand job. What the hell. Let's just skip that one because we we can't show we can't show him guinness vikram again. Guys find that gets sent in. They just gets on his his whole. He's got like like fifty different youtube channels. Because i think what happened. Is that whenever he'd get a new device. You just started a youtube channel where he thought like the feds were on. I'll come off my trail. Get a new. Get a new channel. That's interesting though. But that's sort of the math methods methods about fragmented. Big symptom of math is just having fifty youtube channels no but but having lots of whatever fractured gangs. Look just look at his car. Talk all right. Let's show the second hand john at. I don't even have to handle figure out of a mass. Venus me raincoats. Ooh like that. they're to her boyfriend. Someone that's not cool with getting hand jobs to we need to do is find that woman. I think we're better off. Just she must have a youtube channel or something. It's like you're gonna if you had to so many scary questions again. Very scary answers. I don't think you want. I think whatever's going on there. We will be fascinated by it. She is she belongs your house. I'm just saying oh yeah and this brings me up to a would you rather that we had on. Why major earlier this week would you rather have sex with fed smoker or watch. Your parents come. Wow yeah got tom. Please use that for good. Oh that's christina's oh isn't it right christina. Come up with a lot of people. Think that tom is the psycho here. But for the most part everything that comes from. I know that that's another mind that these good. I've said that for a long time because he could go very bad. So i guess the question is what do you prefer physical scarring or emotional scart. Yeah i would I'd stay with fed smoker. You know what's funny. Everyone here except for tom. I think picked fed smoker. Oh is that right did interesting. And then everyone thinks that like like the entire staff is a psycho because they'd rather fuck fed smoker. Then see their parents come. But it's like too much the epitome of the answer. It's sorta suggested me that. Tom has an interesting relationship with his parents were. The barriers are down mom in front of him. Whatever you know so. That's good good for him. And i don't do not judge my friend to have such a healthy relationship with your parents that you'd be okay with watching them come. I didn't say healthy But interesting interesting not unhealthy. I wouldn't call it but it's like interesting. Unhealthy is the same things the difference between gambling in investing right. They're pretty much. The the word is worried. I i'm done with you i i. I haven't automatic. Because i talked to addicts for so many years. I have like a a point registered. Talkative cool you in less than an hour. Oh it's usually quite be quicker. Very charitable trust me. Dirty word is anna. Anna anna signals. Ya i will give you lots of hints. Offered this has to do with either. Smells or hearing neither but it is brain. So you're right on that right and i use it in relation to homelessness and serious mental illness. Oh it's people so a symptom of this is not wanting help not yes right yes. It's pizzas because they don't think there's a dr or rope taking patients. Now go ahead. slide the ends. I'll tell you what's wrong with you. Buddy imbredded that was a heart. You are very you are very nice to meet. You are giving me really still you had. That's a hard one that stuff over some people all right for some people all right go ahead anyway. We'll stay with. Let's see not to su- woop god. I know this one. And i can't figure out why i can't think of it. I'll give you a hint. Yeah because you're a hardcore. Gee we were talking about blood or no. I no hold on. I one of two guys. It's the it's the Eat pussy guy right. So it's the math guy. You're wrong on. But oh i don't know because guys came to mind you know you don't have talking about the the epilepsy guy. You're gonna have to be more specific. You guys come with the video on that. The guy talks on the streets. Say how he wants to each other. Yeah that was a different. And then the meth guy is the four stroke for stroke pants seat. It's like even though you don't have this reverence down specifically it's like you got all these other references in your head. Yeah yeah why did. Why did i go to sue with those guys. I'm not sure what is it. What is it so sue as we learned about a year or two ago from any is actually a gang members. Warcry is that yes right. Yes you say. Yes pete is there right. So here's a little you know. This is when we found out what sue in any. Is there a white person than me person than you look. When i came up with i came up with a four-stroke i I mean yeah my my mom would would be even less today. She she wanted and you got a little black public announcement goes out to all you bitch ass nigger claimed that i'm a false blood bitch. Call me out and see. If i'm all for the false blood hugh niggers. Don't work. Novak sue patasse nigga guys ready to fight. He's got his eyes. I remember when i heard that was good although hold actually you know what you want to see just how much black you got in you. Yeah listen to that one more time and tell me the last thing that he says before sue k. You play like this. This public announcement goes out to all you bitch ass nigger. Mother fell claimed that. I'm a false blood bitch. Call me out and see. If i'm all for the false blood. Hugh niggers. Don't work novak sue task nigga. I don't know that last word led the beer work. No wreck is heard you big words. Yeah don't blink. Blink blink i i don't know what he's at work. No rack is what i heard. What did he say. I mean there you go. I guess you are white. After all relations. 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Guy seemed like a uniquely american real. Cool guys real cool israelis. We seen them. I mean they're ninety. Nine percent of them are cool of the israelis ca. Okay but i probably have a bias guy. I mean he. He sees me on drugs. he seems to be. Yeah the question is what's the cocktail you know like. What's the what's the combo that he's got. Some booze boost math. That's sort of what i was thinking could be all booze be all boost the turkey jerky back and forth and sudden shifts into weird emotions. Meth thing. I was going to say that. He's cross fatos barbados. he's got a little bit of weed and a little bit of alcohol. He and he could be drowsy and it seemed like he's up and he could be a super cool guy. All that emotional shifting could be from being very cool thing. That's one thing that we're certain that he's cool. But i mean the question is how much drug and at how much is just being cool right. It's a little bit of give and take. Yeah and he looks something going on medically with him and it may maybe the alcohol like his abdomen. Doughy right. I did notice that his belly button did kind of look like a button. It's it has got that weird wrinkles on sorta someone so skinny. It's weird to see joey. Yeah we can. We bring up his belly button again. Doughy abdomen is sort of an alcohol thing so we abdomen right. Just full on bloat right. Look look at that. It's sort of like those wrinkles even like a kind of a ring around it. Yeah it's drew with my background in medicine wasting to this is copper poisoning. No no no no alcoholic liver disease. You get muscular. Wasting you get you give providence of the of the of the nipples we kinda got a little bit of that going on prominent sometimes with fluid because one of the nipples is kind of an any right. It's like on the on the side of his body. It looks like it's very kind of place but anyway on on to the next question we look into that. No leave him be. We've had enough about him. But i'd love to see more of him going forward because i don i kind of i mean he might be a one. There's so many of these guys that we i wish we keep tracking. Let's cleanse a little bit with the king looking into cuddle. I'm so excited being in the house. My kings and queens above eighteen time to go to bed on my tried to get a little bit of sleep and wake up at enjoy my day. Mike wayne's anybody in the fort worth area of texas you wanna come over and cuddle or watch a movie or get that you let me know. That means book. I know he's out of pizza but we could cuddle and watch a movie. I wonder who show you guys have a beautiful day. we'll fit smokers. I love my queens and kings above eighteen team. Oh i'll tell you what i'll tell you what's going to happen. It's what he's going to get is exactly what he's asking for somebody to cut it. Someone that wants beads and shows up and it's totally okay without pizza being there someone trying to fuck right yeah so hopefully also appeared eighteen. Which is it seems like. He's stressing that he really wants coins. Above yes i understand that. I sure as hell hope what it gets now question is. It's like if those are the only check boxes you're trying to check is that healthy. Is the kate healthy. Well first of all. I feel special kinship with king. Because he sent me that very special message. When i was sick he was categorically wrong. Do you wanna go pizza and show them. What are you asking. I do yes i want to meet him in person. No meaning like oh yeah. You'll go for pizza. Then when you show you just like there's no i don't want that. I want to meet the united stand fast. I wanna be the woman that was off. I wanna see who that is. Who are these people. I want to go deeper always mansi. I'm always so jealous and admire your your lack of fear my humanity with it because i am called humanity. Everybody i love humanity. And i want to see what the the cool aspects of humanity actually because composed of what is that. How did they happen as that happens. He wants first instinct. Is like you see these guys and then you run the other way because yeah because then that setting thais people people people coming and stigmatize you for being overweight extremely big. You're you're right. I want to dig in always. I wanted as we which is crazy instinct. But it's they're all sky because to me it's like if if it makes me uneasy on the surface i ask you know what maybe it is. Because that's that's a natural instinct and i acquainted here. We go i acquainted with something called the uncanny valley that we talked about this looking at robots and not knowing why it makes you feel where the exactly that i think. We're wired up evolutionary toot to get very repelled by humanoid characteristics that don't fit what we expect from human right so valley the uncanny valley is we like robots that look more and more and more humanoid until they get really close like. They're really humid and they were disgusted than we were repelled. We wanna move away. And i think that's serious mental illness and coolest people that makes them in. Because i've treated so many people. This is my point of getting into this. I treated so many cool guys so many people with serious mental illness. I get to see what's behind the curtain. I many many many many times and for the most part. It's delightful no but interesting. I wouldn't put it just look at. Rpc just look what we've learned. We all have. We all have an expanded relationship now with him. Right right. fascinating was rich territories on the surface. Like i was terrified of service. I was worried he was going to be killed. But he's a sweetheart he's a. 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If you get that one enlarge it see what they do they take that off so the dickhead comes out your gross out by that part. It's just on this. Show is just really the most amount of dick's i ever see in my day and you know it's interesting. When the dog gets disgusted he cannot hide it. It comes out on his face. Take a look at disgust. So i guess. I'm not a real doctor shit. I have three now. I know right away. So let's watch hold on. Yeah i really want go ahead. Give me a chance all right way behind. I really do all right okay. You know what. I'm gonna give you an opportunity to catch up all right. Give me one. The password is i see i. I know we're going to get an update on. I said this earlier. I know and i remember. I remember seeing it. I remember him saying it. You've got this. it's the pussy guy this. Yes let me play with your booed. He's one of my favorite. He's another guy want to go visit because he's actually really great. I honestly he's one of the few people that i think if we reached out to. I won't be afraid to talk to them. Because i feel like there's something in there that i could relate to. That's interesting. I didn't articulate that. Well no idea what you mean. Th that's interesting you have subcategories take. They're all interesting. Okay let's get an update on that note. That's great that's a great segue into doing. I'm philly nate. Lear your miss that ball. Well guess what. I'm coming at your face. It doesn't matter if you got a big buddha or flat booty. I'm coming to get that women victim growth. I e roars beautiful women. I don't give a damn where you from good for him. Put my tongue in yeas and let me play with the new new baby. And i want you to look. I want to dig in your budi. Yeah we know that. Oh that's some good schools whose yeah banana split. Well we go use you budi. I'm a hit the outer bridget. Inhale put some con chips. May yeah. I'm jay and put some some ga go leaking inside. Your eye does work. You're to put me like that. He's got a ballpoint pen with him. Never why is that Yeah well yeah. He's taking diligent notes. Yeah he's reading off a script to that data whole fucking writing session in a writing team to help them. Come up with this. No it's all his. It's all banana split. Something formosa's don't it. Oh no signs in love with ii than ever now bust. Go visit him. It'd be more okay with. I'd be more aware. no. I don't know we'll figure it out i think we just Yeah we'll figure it out louisiana but actually see. I'm glad that we're seeing these these cuts because these are bringing up medical questions for go ahead. He's lost teeth. I last saw him. I think he's not doing well in the high into the teeth. But but that's a cool guy side of coolest what. What are the medical benefits. What are the medical advantages or disadvantages of eating a sunday. Out of someone's ass the advantages. There's no medical advantage of bacteria. Will you execute strong. You're not actually putting in the anus. It's in the ask crack. And so it's i don't think the way he's describing you're not gonna put it in the ass. You can't force karamchand spoon. Yeah out of the ass crack. There's no bowl in that you need to go in the cavity to wanna do gradients. He just listed off. There's no way. That's all resting on the kate. Taking aim scope and open it up and pour it all in. I don't know what that tool is. But i'm sure i'll get. That is a problem. I don't dig that at all. Because as courtships ain't never coming out and so no corn trips were good and they'll and ice cream because you could introduce some some constable pecans be a problem to anything. Crunching hardly be going to stick irritating. Problematic courtship were good to eat that sunday budi. And if you're doing it in the ass crack whatever it's no big deal right well right. That's just outside fraud. Hit from his standpoint. Just the usual concerns about oral fecal transmission of disease. Which now you go to china. You have to do an anal swab for each for coronavirus. Say china right. well whatever. Whatever if your doctorate. I wanna do one more thing. Let's see we'll pronouns. I am interested in that sure. Yeah let's see Let's see what the update on some cool pronouns are those. I don't want to be anywhere. Do you have by any type of pronouns or something. dayton v them. Do you know in the open. So i go by neo pronounce nick like the name nick or like ge like you are pretty as they them and if you to me it would be back a lot of people. People actually forgive my pool now. Have this exercise. That i do. We basically repeat our pronouns. So for you gotta go. They them they them and then you go. That's uncool guy. Cool girl that's for sure. Well the funniest hell but the thing is is that you're so you're so cool with pronouns that you don't you know you're you're so close to you're not able to step back and really what it is. We're gonna sexism monet writing me. You're not seeing the lily. Pond will know what's what's interesting about it to me is. We're all so beaten into submission. We just ask people what we need to say. And then we just say it. You know what i mean. We're like okay. What do you want us to call. You wanna call you that okay. I'm gonna say it out loud. It's it's sort of weird. We're like what's what's your preferred. What is it were pronoun. Is that well. Let's let's go. I like the point. He's making right. Which is just like calm down a bit of contact with everybody i. There's so where did that. Come from that of tiktok. I think that's just the dude. That kind of trolls bids lowered we. There's some great tiktok on instagram. Do i noticed we had no tick talks this week. Is that just so much good stuff. You'll mean also talks kind of like the that's that's christina's land right over stuff you're right well the dob. I'll tell you what i'm going to What do you call when you give up in chess surrender surrender surrender three to well done my friend. Well you know. So how does this work with vice. You're gonna have to call the board of medical quality assurance your license for licenses. I may have risk on eight hundred. Just call toward medical quality assurance. Come straight up okay. Google call them. I'll be like talked to dr drew. He said no. No no i. I can't mention you. I will surrender. Myra license but you have to form your own. You have to have good luck. But if you're not using why can't i just take. It was no such thing as that exist when you call them. Okay set that up. that'd be. This has been exceeded my expectations in terms of the fun. I was expecting to apologize. I feel like. I really let you down no apologies. It's not about letting me down. Trust me i no no no no. That's that's where people get weird about me. I'm only interested in helping uh-huh and if you don't want the help we'll get there when you need the help i'll be around. That's all i don't get. I don't get like angry or resentful or down or anything like that did not happen to you. Just letting know you'll be here when i hit bottom. No hope you have fun in the meantime. Hope you enjoy yourself. But i yeah i just know where it goes and it does not go to good places and i was trying to save you from that. And that's okay when you're ready you'll tell me. Yeah sometimes i just gonna stick the fork in the outlet. I gotta know that. It's going to shock me you know. That's exactly the way it works And and sometimes you know. I can talk to somebody and they sort of move towards ready right or become ready while i'm talking to them but you're not ready and that's okay but i know i'm damaged right. I just don't want to see damaged would even use words like that. No no no. We know you're going to a place that will make you unhappy. And i'll be there when you get there but we're not there yet And we've signed off on all the plans for stopping things you get your vaccine rolling agreement about that. I'm going to start losing weight wants. We'll keep an eye on that saga right and In thank you for today. Thank you thank you for all the work you do on. The show page agreed audience in the background. The keep us motivated and happy here. I love this. And thank you to guys for the voice messages and the The emails and things we really do enjoy interacting so send them more Thank you to the cool guys and cool gals out there. You of Brought me great joy today. And i'm visiting you soon And it's good to be myself again like by the last few. I've been by an hour or so tired. I feel good today. So that's good some back. And his data. Anything could be enough to Again store dot wyoming studios dot com. Get all the merge store dot. 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Ep. 547 - Marriage Story + Uncut Gems
"The ghost hello everyone and welcome to the slash. I'm David Chen and with me are venture hardware and Jeff. Welcome to the show. Everyone what we're GonNa do here on today's as podcast. We got a lot to cover. Got Some what we've been watching to talk with you about. And then we're going to dive into too in depth reviews this week. We're going to review marriage story ORI which is out on Netflix. Right now and uncut gems now I know what people might be thinking All those of you who listen to the end of every week slash cast last week. We said that we will be reviewing uncut gems week but a lot of people pointed out that hey uncut gems actions only playing in theaters in the country. This week which I actually didn't know I actually so you had read that. He was playing wide so bad and Also that marriage story is something that is not feels like it's lived in entire Cycle media cycle last week. It's gone from a movie. That was not out to then it became available and that's likes to then it became like mean about and like a really really hot topic for a lot of people and now probably people are tired about talking about it. Which is why it's a great idea for us to review it today on the podcast? Yeah Yeah that's what we do we do that. No one can see yet. And then the movie that everyone's sick of talking about episode one episode right here on the slash phone sort would've relativistic algorithm of culture right. Now we're in the middle of that we are the edge bears in the Golden. It's we take the two edged seats. Yeah that's right Well anyway you can find more episodes of this podcast slash podcast dot com email us at slash film casts Edgy Mel Dot Com. All right so we have a lot to cover. Let's talk first about what we've been watching this week. This we got a chance to check out six underground the newest film by Michael Bay. Now I don't know what y'all had heard about this movie giving your apparently the trailer. I've seen the trailer I've heard of this movie movie I was really wondering why he was remaking a sneaker pimps song is that sneaker pimps at a deep nineties cut but yeah that that that that trailer looks like a mess. I'll probably watch eventually but I know you were. You were just ready Davis. ooh Yeah I mean. I watched this movie almost immediately. Absolutely after went live on net flicks and I was craving a low low budget. More personal tightly told the story in the vein of painting gain You know like I think that was Michael. Bay's last good film and opinion really good movie. Yeah Jeff cannot you have a European on pain and gain. I never saw it. Never got a chance to see. You'd love it actually appreciate it. It's like when Michael Bay took a step back from from like the kind of epic action movies and then he went. They may make painting game. Oh Wow the guy can still make a really well-directed kind of small thriller Esque Story As a movie starring Mark Wahlberg and the rox muscles right up Frozen your feelings but also also really like the rock doesn't really make many movies like that so that's fascinating so that movie came out in two thousand thirteen. And then he made transformers age of extinction the the Thirteen hours movie and then transforms the last night after that and I was thinking Oh man this is a return to form for. Michael Bay is going to go back to kind of the fetishes ation of law enforcement officers at that kind of helped define his career. But it's not GonNa be transformers movie really excited about that. I mean this guy way has been making transformers movies since two thousand seven. You know. It's a for better or worse has come to define his career and so I was really excited that hey maybe because of the fact that it stores mostly humans and because of the fact that it's you know Ryan Reynolds Very Charismatic Guy. It's the guy who the people who wrote Deadpool Writing the script for this. Like maybe this is going to be like like Michael Bay reigned in again. You know. Maybe it's going to be like him doing doing some exciting work on a smaller scale. Well can I wager a bet wager. Jeff I'm going to know. Well you know it just happens. You're absolutely correct. The movie cost one hundred fifty million dollars by the way Not so little bit wrong about the scale of it and I would say yeah for the most part it looks like a cost one hundred fifty million dollars. This movie is completely incomprehensible And you know I. I tweeted about it after I saw the movie. I said Michael Bay's six underground is a two hour long car commercial. Watch commercial army commercial discovery discovery channel travelogue and US propaganda video all mashed into one only a transformers movie only without the plot coherence and basic rules of filmmaking continuity continuity that that description might imply out And Yeah I mean it is amazing. How many rules of cinema that he breaks in in the course of making this film? Let's just cover the plot at six underground real quick The according to online is Six individuals from all around the globe each each the very best at what they do have been chosen not only for their skill but for unique desire to delete their pasts. Change the future right. So these guys make thanks for listening. These guys are like ghosts right and they have all been the underground refers affected their old old quote unquote dead like they've all like had funeral. They've all been horrible accidents quote unquote. They've all died and they've all had funerals L.. Their family thinks their dad. It's so they can live you know Off The grid and the only referred to each other by numbers because Ryan Reynolds masterminded the whole group and he does not want anyone to get too emotionally attached to each other You you can place bets on. How will that goes during the course of the movie as well? There's there's no one's ever fallen in love with a number right correct so then I'm wondering service on in love with a with a perfect ten. I'm pretty sure that is actually a line in the film by the way like no one's ever found the number and Ryan Reynolds and Reynolds plays. WHOA Derek begs to differ Ryan Reynolds plays one and he is a billionaire? Who made his fortune off of magnet technology and he recruits all these people and because she's a billionaire He is able to like Bil- these amazing guns and gadgets and vehicles of that I guess it doesn't make that much less essence in Batman. You know what I mean. Because it's like okay. How could a billionaire live off the grid? No one recognizes him and these massive transactions for all these weapons and it it really does show how dumb the idea of Batman a good job if one contribution to cinema six UNDERGRAD has made it is revealing. How stupid Batman's yeah? That's correct and I will say the first twenty minutes of this film is an extent. It's like an extremely extended car chase a sequence and it takes place with Just described the premise is like there's these two women in these amazing looking dresses in the backseat of the car. With one of them. Trying to dig a bullet out of the other the other one and then Ryan Reynolds is the front seat while David David Franko is driving And Ryan Reynolds is trying to scan guys eyeball into a phone to unlock Like always important information mation on this phone so he's using an eyeball because it's a the retinal scanner he's holding an a a an eyeball that's been ripped out of this guy's skull and they're driving around. I think Italy right like http high speed car chase scene in Italy and that lasts for a good twenty minutes at scene and I will say there are actually some pretty breathtaking visuals cels during the course that scene. I mean there's one of the guys also does Parker and He's doing it on the park. It's actually really good. Honestly whenever the guy. The Parkway Guy wasn't onscreen I was like when is. When are we gonNA see Pucci again when we're going to the park or guy because he's so cool and so that is the opening scene of the film and honestly you don't need to watch anything else if you just watch the first twenty minutes? You've seen what the movie has to offer pretty much. I I love that. This basically sounds like Michael Bay's Irishman. This is the power of Netflix. Just the unfettered you know ego ego Of A filmmaker. Just let them go. Be the genius or Michael Bay so I always thought that transformers was like Michael Bay unchained but it turns turns out that like this. Is Michael Bay. Even further unchained. He even have the constraints of Hasbro franchise to hold. I'm don anymore in this one. This is just pure Michael Bay aid. There is zero attention played to pay to the plot. what is amazing is like Film basic filmmaking. Continuity is violated a on a data you know on a moment to moment basis. And what what I mean by that that there was meetings with the Hasbro people where they're reining him in Virginia has like holding a toy going. Look Michael Look. It can't bend that we need you to have less sex and violence in films but Yeah that that's Basically what the. I think. It's clear from watching six underground. That was the moderating influence that they had and filmmaking continuity I mean mean Michael Bay's filmmaking continue has never been the strongest filming can continue for those who don't know he's like when you're shooting a scene it's important that when you cut back and forth from certain characters at if you're a you know if they're sitting at a table and there's like a cigarette that's burning or a glass ass full of water. You want that glass of water to stay roughly at the same level or you want that cigarette to stay roughly at the same. Because you don't want to be distracted by the fact that we're watching ching filmmaking people doing these shots at different times you want to be sucked into that illusion of what's going on right Michael Bay completely disregards yards any of those rules and instead makes up for it by sheer number of cuts and knishes raise like hoping you will not aren't mind the always answered you're always sort of like authority examples and I'm actually going to think about being a video at this. It's basically like you know there's a character who jumps into a pool to hide at one point literally the next time you see him. He's out of the pool climbing up the side of a building completely. Dry Right no explanation of style. That happened the one point. A character like is driving a car slams into another car then. His car suddenly starts flipping and they're on a completely different different street. Altogether basic things like that that it's like this family guy version of Michael Bay action seeing like the chicken fight basically just going on on except the chicken had like the chicken continuity though from like the basic rules are violated. Just doesn't an in and he doesn't he doesn't care he's just throwing all these shots at you. I think Basic rules are for lesser filmmakers. Michael Bay Yeah. You know what I'm saying. I mean I think that like what. We're really discovering. Is that the studio notes. Process has been. Actually it can be good sometimes because my guess is Netflix. Just handed him one hundred fifty million dollars and was like hey go to town. Michael Bay and Six hundred ground is the result. I can't say I didn't enjoy it. Entertain I mean yeah. There's some cool stuff with magnets that happen during the at the end. 'cause I mentioned that Ryan Reynolds is a magnet magnate magnate he's a magnet magnate and So what what. Things one hundred fifty million dollars could solve in the world it like. Yeah you could buy the whole state like education the college education or something like that education instead crisis we got basically the opposite ashort set basically we actually took away people's education by showing them six underground like they they got dumber after watching it Yeah I mean I mean I had some fun of the movie it makes absolutely no sense. They actually say the line magnet magnate in it because that's another big downside of the movie ooh come on. It's sitting right there. I don't know I might have faded in another consciousness during the course of A. Maybe they said it was passed out but like I I. I don't think they said anything. That clever in the course of movie and I mean yeah I mean just like it's it feels like the level filmmaking of like suicide squad if you remember that like for example like there's one moment in the movie where they're like introducing the characters and he's like hey survive rentals like recruits hoots them all right and the character says yeah. I remember the first time I met Ryan Reynolds character. He just shows up at the most weird times flashback to win this his character Matt Ryan Rentals for the first time. And you're thinking to yourself. Oh well then they're gonNA show the flashbacks and went all these other characters met him. Nope never have just like something that you so you think you understand about movies. Yeah they're subverting the recruiting team Monta. Yeah that's what they're doing. Yes yes it's it's like suicide squad what it's like A lot of people like Michael Bay Channeling Tony Scott which I think is a very charitable way of looking at it out there a movie about the people people who you think are dead but there are team so that they can go and do cool stuff is a little bit like the movie about the people who are dead but but there are team so they can go and do cool stuff. No I think. That's that's great you you're talking about suicide squadron. Aren't yeah at six underground in suicide. Squad are just two different ways of saying the same anything. It's true it's true when they're the bad guys to jeff and whatsoever so yeah yeah so the and they're both equally comprehensible. I would say so anyway. I don't know how much more I can talk about this movie with. You know like I think you guys understand what I'm saying. The movies six underground. It's on enough. Looks Right now. I think you're saying that it's going to be on your top. Ten years strongly considering it parents saw this movie and they called me like this movie is hopeless and my parents have very low standards for like sleeping entertainment. So I'm really looking forward to seeing this Sunday awesome. I also had a chance to watch. Waves this movie by trae Edward Scholtz. Have you heard of this. Yes yeah yeah unfortunately. Unfortunately it didn't do too well the box office weekend but I just want to say that I'll say also that I feel like the trailer for this movie reveals extremely little little about the film like I had no idea what the plot of this film was an just read like a quick snippet of the plot summary here it says. It is an epic pick emotional journey of a suburban African American family I'll leave it at that. I mean the I won't reveal what happens during the course of the film. I'll just say that this is very good. trae rituals is a filmmaker who makes movies that I feel are pretty uncommercial like the movies he's made. It comes at night which I think is a move. We all liked right. Do we all like it comes tonight. I think that was a little confusing because it was not what a lot of people expected but yeah it it was also I. I enjoyed it. Yeah I like to quite a bit and the news. This movie waves his third feature and without revealing anything about the plot. I'll say see that. What is great about? This movie is or the performances Specifically Calvin Harrison junior who plays one of the characters in. He's the son in it comes at night. He's great in both that movie and this movie but the the breakout star of this film is Taylor Russell. Who plays the daughter character in this family In the movie waves I mean I had no idea who this actor was before I saw waves. She was also one of the leads in Escape Room. Actually if have you seen that movie and this is like performances like a meteor that came out of nowhere and like destroyed my life. I mean she is ridiculously good it in this movie And I think it's one of the best ones of the year just because of the power of these performances. They're so good they're dealing with emotions that are so raw and it's a shame more people aren't seeing it but I think you should. It's out in limited release right now. The movie is waves. And it will devastate you. That's the other thing I I think that's been a running theme on the podcast weeks. RIGHT IS A. We've been talking about devastating movies every Oscar contender that we see the seasons. Basically like we'll rip Gerhard out so I've got honesty reminded me a little bit of requiem for a dream to be honest with you like Maybe that kind of destroyed me and But it's also like pretty slow paced movie recommend for dream. I feel like it's pretty deliberately paced and like the the levels of tragedy build upon each other and The record for very extreme and it deals with drug use. And there's very little that in waves but it's just like you kind of see where this train is going you kind of see that it's going to collide allied with something you don't know exactly where how it's going to happen But it does and when it when that happens it's It's pretty upsetting and You know you you need to have the right frame of mind to go into movie like this sounds like. I'm watching six underground in the movies waves and again big shadow to tailor Russell in Kelvin Harrison junior putting in two of the best performances of the year Taylor Russell she is is going to be a star. And I mean I think based on this movie She is incredible in this movie. And it is worth watching it just to see Taylor Russell in this film that is why I have to say about it. Okay and I just want to give a quick shout out to black man in San Francisco. That's a movie that shouted out last week on fingers recommendation I went to go see it uh streaming right now. I'm prime video It's I think it's very good. I think you're right Devendra. It's basically about the impacts of gentrification and in what we lose in that process and I think there's it's very kind of weird style of filmmaking. I haven't seen a fits various Michaeli. It's sort of like a modern spike. Lee thing yeah very spike Lee is portions of very surrealist and but overall I think it's unique in in worth is checking out and certainly very relevant in this day and age. That's the last man in San Francisco so I'm from right now All right Dhingra why don't we go to you. Real quick quick and get tour for sponsor. Sure just wanted to briefly mention the season finale. Agassi's entire season of watchmen on HBO and You just have to say they. They did it. They knocked it out of the park. Like Dame Lindelof in his writing staff and everybody like I think a lot of people were worried that he couldn't quite pull off this This sort of like crazy retailing will not retiring. But this crazy. Like direct sequel to the watchmen comic. 'cause this show goes places. It does some them wild things and I'm sitting here waiting until Jeff sees it and just start screaming over what happens. Because there's some major spoiler swimming around Jeff in either know how you're surviving by being here But it is. It's incredible it's incredibly well written I love that the medically he really brought home. What ah I guess? Some of the broader things from watchmen also like modernize them to something that's more relevant today. there's a lot of talk about like I dunno like people who have powers and the responsibility they have with those powers. I found that really interesting. Around the finale. The show can also be weird and wild like so much of the leftovers and even lost at times. I'm definitely tired of hearing people whine about The ending of lost or how lost treated them I was right there. I was along for that ride. I was frustrated. Okay bye lost I I like the finale in the last season but I think the leftovers proved You Know Damon Lindelof writing something and building a show. That's a little more focused at that. Isn't like twenty four episodes per season he can craft something a little more interesting left. Adverse is one of my favourite. TV shows ever made and right. Now watchmen is right up there so I'm just very glad this all you know he was able to pull it all off. We don't even know if there's going to be season two and honestly that's fine. It's fine if he just back away from this because it is a perfect bit of television. I really like watchmen as well. I finished the final episode last night. All nine episodes And Yeah it's very good. He stuck the landing stuck the landing wasn't it wasn't the perfect ending. There were still a bunch of like Glue Sensiti up I think and I think like there was like a thing where he's is introducing mysteries up until almost the end really PD PD reader. Dave no I wasn't I think like I feel like show should stand on their own without you need to do but the the. PDA was this weird thing where it was like the chronicles of the FBI when the FBI agents in the show just like The notes reports he would send back and it was just like little tidbits. I think that's A. It's a good accessory for the people who watch shows and want everything to be something like a fricking westworld like a puzzle to be solved. And all the pieces I think the medically medically and characterized his show Sans Zone. But if you're like what happened to that one dude who went into that one thing. Where where's that Guy I've it's an interesting way to like. Wrap up some of those loose ends I think so. I don't I don't mind that the people who want to dive into that stuff really can and people like me like I like it I I I will look at it occasionally but I'm not mine. Enjoyment of the show is not dependent on how I solve the puzzle or you know how enjoyable the puzzles basically yeah And I think the they showed that a great job of modernizing the themes of the original comic book. You know what what are the biggest menaces we're dealing with today. It's no longer the Cold War right. It's white supremacy and racism in many of our stations. At least that's one of our big challenges. Yeah Yeah and it goes straight at it and that is that is wild. It is just just like from the beginning. It just never lets up and got to give him credit for that and you know bringing in Writers of color to to kind of help plush up season because he was just Damon Lindelof doing that. I'm not sure if it would have been so textured so interesting so there's so much going on the show. I love it so much. I think one of my favorite things about hint talking about the writer's room is this is like a very like I'm going to be as vague as I can. But basically if you haven't seen so if you'd like one avoid it anything just skip forward by a few seconds but basically a watchman so that one of the characters. In the watchmen. TREMAIN comic is black rate and the explores the implications of what that means and why the character was black. And and you know like why one would think that character might be black and then why that turns out to be true and so on and I remember hearing an interview with him where he basically said that When he was doing this he wanted people in the writers room? Who maybe didn't agree with him he? He's like Hey I'm GonNa make the ex character a black character and there's a bunch of people like oh my gosh it's so oh cool. Yeah let's do that. And he did not hire those people you know like. He wanted people to be like. Maybe we shouldn't do that or maybe. There's a lot of problems with that and I just thought that was really really interesting. Way of going about it. Is that like you actually want people to like. Say why you're wrong and then see if you can come together to make something better Or more thoughtful than what you would have before I really admired that and you know people can have varying opinions about whether he actually did a good job this season. I personally think that he and all the people from the writers killed it but I think he tried to be awful as he could. And that may or may not be enough But in my book This was a really towering work of television and it deserves to be watched. So that's watchman on HBO. All right you guys. I had my earphones out through all that because I really far behind But while I was sitting there by myself alone the quiet I remembered something that I wanted to say at the very beginning of this episode. I'm real oh dumb And there's new and ongoing evidence of my my stupidity remember. Yes I'm glad addressing this so last week I made a big deal about talking about the morning show. Yeah because I had finished the this season and yeah yeah yeah I made a big deal about how It was odd that the last episode ended the way Dan departure very avant guard. Yeah and and Jeff let me tell you. Let me tell you when you said that okay. I'm not following the morning show but when you said hey it was weird that the morning show ended with a flashback episode. I David Chen thoughts on the air while we were recording. I thought to myself. Wow that is odd. I mean I've seen many TV shows and many many TV shows. I'm I'm thinking like the shield. I'm thinking escape from Dan Amora list all the TV shows you've seen TV show any users just have like a back door pilot in like episode eight or nine of a specific season right like second to last episode third to last episode. Village flashback and timing. Hi Michelle like. Oh here's all the stuff that happened before the main events for show and so as you were saying I'm like wow. That is so weird because I could understand if the morning show at a flashback aspect episode like right before the end but for it to be the final episode to end on a fightback. That's just extremely daring and be very weird but you no what it's Jeff Kanada. I trust him completely. Why Jeff Lie or be wrong about something extremely obvious like when a show it was going to end right right and you know Kudos to you for trusting me for the first time ever in the history of this show? Yeah it was It was a bad time it turns out it was it because I am profoundly dump person it turns out. Doesn't it wasn't the end. There's two more episodes this season. Oh Oh yeah okay you know if if I have but a tiny bit of defense in just speaking to my own defense just the tiniest. I'll have said several times now. How just real dumb I am? uh-huh this is literally the first show I've watched on a brand Dan new streaming channel. And so I I guess it just wasn't clear to me how their system works because it just didn't seem obvious that there was going to be more insist felt like it felt like that was the last one and and you know and and instead you know here we're going to transition you into a different show now and I know that they're releasing them not all in a bulk I mean I know that they're not so you know mea culpa but it's just as amazing because you were so sure about it you know no must see you're so sure you're like well it was eight episodes I figured hey why not take a chance on this I'm like Oh yes this man this sounds like a man who's researched how many episodes they're Show right yeah. You'd think you'd think I did think he wouldn't broadcast that kind of information to literally thousands of people I would actually saved in July. It's tens of thousands actually. Oh it's more than enough to Philly football stadium. People listening to this podcast right. In the words of David Chen it's dozens of thousands of people. Correct correct correct. Yeah no you'd think that I wouldn't want myself to look quite that dumb in front of quite that many people but you'd be wrong because I did it well. I hope you enjoy the last two episodes of of the morning show which are off flashback episodes. I assume so I assume that too but you know I'm never gonNA watch them. 'cause to the show's over. I'm just getting in your head and we'll probably watch speaking speaking of things that aren't offensively dumb. Let's talk about our first sponsor Jeff. Eight hours is our sponsor and it has never been A better time to be a lover of film we have access to the world of movies and TV like never before like why is the past. Several years have seen an explosion. 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I cried four times very competitive. What's this who owns Balsa government? He's very clear about what he wants. He's a great dresser never looks embarrassing just takes all of my mood. Steadily doesn't make me feel bad about them and he rarely gets defeated which I felt like I always do. We should talk okay. That was from on the trailer for marriage story. The newest film by writer. Director Noah Baumbach I'M GONNA re platforming from Noah Baumbach incisive and compassionate look at marriage breaking up in a family staying together. This is Shaun cast and I I think you know we were moved to review this because I think I saw that Jeff had seen the film at my recommendation. I assume Jeff on that you tweet about it and then I saw a flood of messages in these slack. Film cast. That's like film Dot Com on basically people saying Oh man I hope they're view marriage story note. There are uncut gems a movie that I cannot see so I was like you know what guys. Let's try to make it a double review. So that's what we're doing And I think probably more people will have seen marriage story this week than we'll have seen uncut gems but I hope people have a chance to enjoy both of them All all that being said Devendra. Why don't we start with you What has been your opinion on Obama movies in the past? And what did you think of marriage story. Oh I've I've enjoyed some of his work eric. There is. There are certainly some things. I'm not a big Trying to think what was he all of his movies kind of run together for me the win the Family Griffin the wheel excluding the wheel the wheel. I feel like something like squid. The whale felt really abrasive to me in hard to like really had a hard time like latching onto those those characters and I also feel like a lot of his films. Just come through a very lake. You know like white upper middle class perspective that I can't always jive with it's it's fine. It's his thing it's just not always for me I think some of his more recent movies have been more interesting. Certainly like Francis hot if if you like that's a great film so marriage story. I was regretting. I was avoiding this movie. I think for a while because looking at the trailer are looking where it's about looking who it's coming from. I know for certain it would make my heart basically. So congratulations movie make you slack. Film cast cast for putting us through this movie it is. It's an excellent movie but it It tore my heart apart. It's also it's especially hard to especially meaningful. Because we're seeing this movie starts with this family. Yeah Andrew Scarlett Johansson and their child living this great like Artistic Dick Almost Bahamian lifestyle in New York It is very much like the dream lifestyle. I think for a lot of people in Brooklyn In fact there's subway stop is not too far for me every all the opening scenes is just like. Oh I'm yeah I'm there. That's that's the tennis court. Pass every day So it's a lot of those. LSU The ends of that for all it okay. Hit close to home was like okay. I take this I find it really. It's full and really interesting. I there so many films about the process of divorce I think and this one goes about it and you really like humane empathetic way and Yeah both sides aren't always always right. I think there's like we can argue this spoilers I think there is certainly aside. That does not come down well. On an drivers character the ultimately but What's interesting is both perspectives? Perspectives are valid. Even if somebody is more of a jerk than another and the responses to this whole situation the way they go through it is also very humane. yeah. I love this thing. It hurt my heart. Thanks a lot. Jeff Cannata well. They've I guess you could say my thoughts on the marriage story. Our best summed up in the form of a limerick surprise because limit feels kind of lighthearted for a movie of this manner but put your surprises. So I guess we'll see we'll see we'll see we'll see after the next five lines you don't need to be wearing a ring for this film to be deeply moving it's exquisite and true and relatable to 'cause it's about the death of something Oh all right all right poignant Jeff. I'm covering the Netflix. Yeah don't don't judge the lyric by its foreign baby flexible. It's a flexible. Donate the money or hit the game. You Know I. So it's not a very popular thing to say these days but I was formed Phil Mattingly by falling in love with the films of Woody Allen. I Love Them. I still love them. I know it's you can't say these things anymore but I still love them I still I love the aesthetic of them because you said them but you know I said you know that most people won't But I I I loved. I loved the way his characters talk. Those movies are shot. I love how it's long takes and wide shots and they're like plays and and their showcases for actors and they're they're about New York and they're about this life that I never lived but I always fantasized about living this individuals saints Bohemian. Artistic I I'M A I love theatre I've I've done a lot of stage work Not Leave lately because I had kids. But but that's the life that I always fantasized about and I think Noah Baumbach for me is that also and I think Devendra rightly points out some sort of problematic things that go along with that but I I still love it I still fantasize about that world and that life and those things and I love his movies. I love his movies. I I talked when you know. We talked last year about the MEYROWITZ stories. And I love that movie. I think while we're young is probably one of my favorite films of the last five years review. That was great. I Love Them. I love that movie about getting old. And sort of not recognizing recognizing that you're not part of a young generation and this you know it's interesting I think Adam driver and Scarlett Johansson are amazing in this but I I kind of feel like they're both. Oh Th- too young for this subject matter. I kind of wish they had a little bit older actors playing these roles. But that's a minor quibble to what I think is just just a incredible movie and incredibly moving to what you're saying. Jeff I do feel like a lot of films about divorce are about those like forty something characters actors right or the kids are at Outta high school. The kids are at the House that gets a very. It's a very it's another stage of their life and now they're thinking of the end and it's like Oh we don't actually like each other. Let's split up to me the idea of this like thirty something family very vibrant very apparently successful from the outside and happy Sterling apart makes it even more impactful to me at least yeah I mean. I think it's interesting you know Dave. We talked about this movie last week. I think it was that that You really warned against watching it with my wife. You said it was not a movie. You know that you would recommend doing that for and I I took your advice and I started watching it and twenty minutes in. I paused it. I got up and went and got my wife and I said you gotta come in. Watch this with me because I think movie I understand that you would describe it of Indra as being brutal and I understand Dave you would describe it as being a hard thing to watch as a couple or you're seeing something that couples kind of don't WanNa think about played out in in really grim detail and the as especially when the movie gets into the process of divorce. It is very harsh but I think it's a movie about love. I think it's a movie about the beautiful things I mean. It's a movie that begins with a list of the things that they like about each other and just flashing the potential spoiler spoiler spoiler alert. Okay Fair enough but I yeah I agree with you that wrap up where the movie goes. Yeah no I don't mean to talk. I just mean that like that. I don't think that is ever lost like are people that love each other throughout the whole movie like how much they fight right like kind of. It's it's a movie it's kind of a movie about hope like the. It's a movie about making the decision that you can be happier apart but but still have a life together Yep And I found it moving and beautiful very hopeful way it. Yes it's dark yes. There are scenes. Ends of brutality verbal brutality and and these people clearly have done things things to each other that you wouldn't want to do in a in a in a marriage that you would want to last but they're also it's just feels very you true and very honest I mean there's a there's a specific sequence that maybe I should wait for spoilers for that I that I'd like to reference but I I let me talk just sort of general about this film. I love how all of this movie is expressed. I think this is the and it's funny. We just did the eight hours. Add in blocking was referenced. I think this is the best blocked movie I have seen all year when Scarlett Johansson seeing days just just like the art of blocking her. Yeah yeah she goes into the bathroom and she comes out but every sequences like that. There's the big argument and seen the place down the hall and into the room and he's folding clothes and then they come back like every scene is blocked like a play. It's blocked with movement and in business and there is the camera is just capturing life. It's not it's not staged like a movie. It staged like life life it messy and complicated and the way our brains work which is like I'm having this discussion but I'm also doing six other things because that's what we do is you. Don't just stand there and talk to each other. You're like especially in a marriage you're doing housework and crap and it is. It's so wonderful. Wonderful how that is captured in this movie and how people communicate and move and the dialogue is just so so rich and beautiful and all of the performances. I mean every single side character I think if I had to pick a list of my favorite actors of all time it'd be hard to find anybody not the goes above Alan alda I just think he's a genius and he's amazing in this like small rule but there's so many just great great Laura dern amazing. This movie It's I mean Scarlett. Johansson is delivers this model. Like it's a tour to force monologue analog Out of drivers amazing all. The interactions with the kids are amazing. I watched the first half an hour twice because I brought my wife and we started again from the beginning and I was picking things out. I mean I would love to watch this movie again. I was picking things out of the framing. That communicate wonderful little things especially in the opening. Montage where you don't really know who these people are yet but stuff is communicated in the backgrounds of shots and it's this is an amazing movie be that you don't get to see very often these kinds of like brutally honest raw examinations of people rubbing up against each other in all of the messy ways that we do in life and coming out of it. I found it very hopeful I found it. I mean I was weeping but but in a it didn't destroy me in the way like a requiem for a dream it really does it. It's it's about death the death of relationship but death can be very beautiful and and it's about appreciating what that thing that that was alive. That is no longer alive but what it was and I I love this movie for that to quote another Baranovsky movie. Death is the road to offer APPS UPS and Yeah I totally feel a lot of what you're saying there And let me just revise something I said you know. I said you shouldn't watch this with loved one That was too strong. That was too strong. I would say It's fine to want to have loved one. Just be prepared for it to create a lot of feelings and a lot of conversation afterwards and then and then. That's you know that's fine if you're ready for that you're screening of midsummer together did not go. Well maybe then it'd be asking is But yeah it's totally fine to watch with with a loved one in very thought provoking and there's a lot to discuss All right I mean I have a lot to say about it as well but I think we should move the spoilers before we get to it and before we do that when we talk about our next sponsor feels the vinegar. Sure so you know I have anxiety. I deal with a lot of stress in my life between babies and work and podcasting so much stuff so I have been using feels to help me chill out a bit and it's a CD product it can help you out with anxiety. Chronic pain trouble sleeping things like that It's premium premium CD. That's delivered directly to your doorstep and it helps to naturally reduce stress anxiety. All those things talking about like it is one of those things I enjoy using especially before before after do some work at night. I take a few drops under my tongue. It's a really nice thing. It's like an instinct camomile tea. 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I feel the set dressing is excellent. I mean the the the it really hit me hard. When you're in the lawyer's offices you compare like Laura dern office with Ray Liotta? It's like it's like minimalist Corner Office with Ray Liotta office where like everything is made of Oak and then Allen in office where it's like. He's basically using a plastic table folding table or whatever for an analogy basically yeah and it just like wow what a way to communicate you know character and who these people are with just the set I'm against the part was brilliant It's pretty obvious. It's like when am drivers carrot. It gets the LA apartment and it's just like this dead empty thing with like the furniture that came with the apartment it is it. Looks Terrible. Doesn't look like a home as it's like just as empty as his sole basically but it is. Yeah it's all conveyed their quance with the woman watching them and sells and just so aw brutal. It's it is like from comedy though you know. That's that's bleeding. And she's like are you going to take care of these. I'm totally fine. I'm twenty five and then like you know transitioning into into him you know trying to treat himself and trying to reach the paper towels on the other side while still running water on his hand. It's just it's very relatable but funny but also yeah. How did he get better from that? That seems like a pretty bad cuts. I'll say that Martha Kelly by the plays the woman who is his A social worker. And she's brilliant in the show baskets a with Zach Galifianakis. Oh just shut out to Martha Kelly always great to see her in something thing but Yeah love that sequence that you're talking about Jeff and it it's painful awkwardness is painful. And that's that's a lot of what drives much of the film. I want to talk a little bit about the sort of just to illustrate my point about blocking There's a scene and that you might not even think is very showy in this regard but to me it is the perfect example of why this movie is so special with regard to the to the blocking and that is there's a there's a scene where she is a is going to serve him his his paper serve him his divorce notice notice Yep and it is in. We're in a small kitchen in her mom's house and she's prepping. Everybody and the cameras are sort of perched urged there were watching her. The sisters coming in and out very nervous the cameras kind of swivelling around you catching the sister come in and out of that hallway. We don't know what's happening down there but we assume the kids. Are you know you know need to be tended. There's some urgency outside the room that adds to the sense of tension about what's GonNa Happen and then we get to see through the window out on driver come out. He's very casual coming in. And then all of the stuff that happens between Lean Adam driver coming in and giving him actually the divorce papers he gets a chicken and then it's like oh good man. It's so pedestrian in and every day. But it's also like there's this looming threat of him seeing the papers on the table and there's one moment where like glances right at it and then just doesn't see it and keeps is going and it's it's perfect it's perfect. It's like a thriller almost as many little thriller about what's going to happen when he sees this these divorce papers papers and then how it actually happens what he's sort of gobsmacked but like doesn't react in In the history way he doesn't go over the top he just sort of Goes O. Oh was and the way that all of that playing out the way that's all blocked and her coming in and out and all the characters moving through it. It's just I think master a class in in presenting that kind of moment in blogging. That kind of scene and that's just one tiny example. This movie is full of that. Yeah Eh feels like every scene is like the that's a great character moment to because it's like he throws in. This house is like his home. He jumps into the fridge. He's like Oh if if I if I were just visiting my in-laws House I probably wouldn't even go into the fridge. That'd be like start coming up rich history chicken because I'm hungry her mind. She does now she does. He's he's really at home there. He's really comfortable there okay. I'm sorry this chicken don't even play games. Get Out of this This rotisserie right. It's fine and then his realization when and he realizes that Oh he can't even stay there like it is now not your home within the moment. You stepped in that door to like you leaving it. Is it's devastating. Yeah you know it's interesting you talking about your take away from the movie as like this beautiful thing that these characters part of an I had a different take away I mean I mean. I don't think you're going to be an honorable. It's horrible but yeah I I don't think you're going to deny what my takeaway is. But like I think we left the movie with like pretty different Things that like Beta lasting impression on US right I would say the number one thing for me that made a lasting impression was that basically divorce is a a process that will completely grind up the people like it has a life of its own right like you you will like you know. Take take a dip your toe in and be like. Oh let's just toy with like using a lawyer and you know serving these papers and so on but once you were in it you you actually cannot extricate yourself because because You know this this process this. This monstrous machine That you have been caught up in will now reach its lodge like its Own conclusion completely independent of your desires. And you're you know what what you prefer to have this turn out and that's like like because you know it's one point in the movies. Well all the money I made from Macarthur Genius Award like I'm spending like I'm going broke because I'm paying for it. You know like he realizes he has to to do it in this way. It's like a prisoner's dilemma. You know like you have to like the first person defects and it's like okay. Well you got an lawyer now I need an ESA lawyer or else like I'm getting completely completely screwed and it's just like once you start engaging you cannot escape and that's like and it soon so great how he goes to radio I and he and we the the audience go like fuck this guy what is an actual who is completely right. Yes from the word go every thing he says. And when you get to Alan Alda who were like Oh cool he and we all say Oh goody found this sort of compassionate decent human and a decent human is on on the same page but just presents it in a different way you know. He's just he's just you know sugar coating the awfulness as well you know. And and that's that's almost worse. Because he's not approaching the process clear eyed. It's it is is a real yes. It is real harrowing in view into the American legal system. I don't think it's limited to just divorce but it is also yeah. I also came away with the fact of like you Never WanNa get divorced forest but we're GONNA get divorced. Don't do it in this way. I would say there's no right way. Yeah Yeah if if you try to do good like it all it all kind of I don't know if I agree with that because I think that like the way they were at the way they were gonNA approach. It was mediation that was originally led to the letter is being being written and this goes to like a big question that a lot of people have been talking about is like do we feel like the movie comes down on one character characters side or the other right and I. I don't have a firm answer for that. What I what I do see? Is that the person who is most monstrous. ONSCREEN is scarlet. Your Hanson's character right. I disagree one hundred percent interesting because I'm saying on screen during the course course of the of the events of the film itself. I'm not saying I'm not saying everything leading up to the film. By interpreting we have not seen the past. You're correct prayer and and like my interpretation is like Adam driver has been like the wrong one in everything that happened before the movie began. And that like okay okay. Once the movie begins though it is Scarlett Johansson who like escalates it by refusing to see the mediator and so on right That's just my own interpretation. But that like she's he's doing so in an extremely reasonable fashion because she feels that she has been wrong as she explained so ended up really monologue right and not only that. It's not only that she has been wronged up to that moment. I think the only way that you see her as monstrous is if you don't see that he. He is continuing to completely ignore her throughout. The whole process has decided how it's going to be and thinks that the a he decided it was going to be is the way it's going to be and doesn't you know. He decided that they live in New York right. And that's his decision and her her entire point is you. I want to live here with my son. Net right now and that you you have never heard me that that I want that you have never understood that I want that and you don't now so I I think that I don't know I came away. I mean he's a very. They're both very sympathetic. Doc I don't I don't find them. I think the word monstrous is a bridge too far for me but they both they and they both do things to each other. That are unkind to say the least An underhanded perhaps as well but man I come out really on her side I mean I think the movie has the most hope for her like this is it is it is true. What Laura dern tells her that this is is a an act of hope for her? It is her finally actualising. It's her finally being a person instead of just being an accessory serie to someone else yeah. That's pretty much I like she. She's the one who also they talk about winning a lot in a really like basic way in this movie and I guess to the divorce lawyers that is how they have to think But who gains the most in this situation and the split up it is. It is Nicole. It is like her finding her wrong-footing being somewhere where she really wants to be. And Life is going to be harder for Charlie but maybe you know life was very easy for him before that because because he was able to subjugate his wife into following everything he wanted so it is even even after even after they start the D- The divorce like it is not great that she didn't want to through the mediation but that whole mediation thing was like the mediator being very on board with Charlie. Like it's very like oh you're against me so now you two are teaming teaming up with me or against me in this whole process it you know I feel like these characters act emotionally very realistic ways. They don't act rationally all the time but no nobody nobody does. That's not how people operate. I think that that mediator just wanted them to write those lists going on Okay very nice you know. I feel I've tried to articulate myself. I'm GonNa Bring someone else into the mix. This is like from Tasha Robinson's his twitter account. WHO Like I? I completely agree with this assessment. She says their narrative around whose fault who's more villainous marriage stories interesting for my two cents worth. I felt. Nicole came across Ossis clearly less sympathetic and more at fault and I'm surprised that people who found the film even-handed marriage story does clearly care about Nicole concerns and emotions and finds a lot to critique and Charlie selfish an oblivious nece and the way he bins her needs around his own but she's the one who keeps escalating. It's an outsized punishment for what he did. The Coles the one who brings a cutthroat winning obsessed US lawyer into what was meant to be a painless loyalist separation. She's the one who repeatedly changes plans around childcare then access. Charlie's being a rational for expecting her to stick to stated plans. Nicole is repeatedly by their Bolivia's about the huge sacrifices Charlie's for making and trying to accommodate her a parallel to the sacrifices she made to accommodate him. But we see virtually none of those onscreen screen. We just hear about them. In retrospect unbalancing. Anyway she goes on but I the that's the assessment that I was like. Yeah when I read that it says when I'm like yes I completely agree. Charlie may have been the one that was more of an asshole before the movie began and he certainly was an asshole to some extent during the course of the film for sure. You're like I agree with you. Like during the course of movie that the moments of lack of self awareness Jeff moment when they're talking with a lawyer and it's like why is it that when like like when you mentioned we might go to L. A.. It's like a discussion but when she says it's a promise you know like and he's not even realizing what he's doing in the moment I found that those to be very revelatory so for sure he does not acquit himself. Well it's not like he's like you know White Knight during during the course of the movie or not but he also completely everything she says about him as a father is accurate and in the course of the film not just leading up to the film but in the course of the film we see him being very selfish and self absorbed in in the caring of his son and and you coming coming into L. A. and basically ignoring his kid while he's there because he's so obsessed with work but still wanting to get credit for it is I really couldn't disagree with Tasha. I respect her greatly but I couldn't disagree with that. That's just not the movie I felt like I saw. I think you know she certainly ramps things up but it is. She gives him a heads up almost just every time she can stores it. Yeah you know He. He's absent he doesn't he doesn't pay her any mind and it own. It is only when things become you know in smacked into his face that who actually realizes. Oh this is real and this is a thing like it's yeah. Yeah there's a certain level of privilege to the way he treats everything as being unreal like even after he gets served as like a full month goes by and you don't you don't do anything thing about that like beyond like seeing the Ray Liotta lawyer like it seemed like I know people like this. I know very smart creatives who you are so focused on their work like everything else kind of takes care of itself. Hopefully and a lot of that is dependent on their partner to kind of keep their life together I had to what Tasha Russia that statement like. I could see that point of view. I can certainly see why you guys feel that way but to me it's like first of all Laura dern character is not and she is not like just an asshole divorce lawyer like the way she she like weaves dispel around the coal. That is kind of fascinating like you can see in. Her office is that she's very. She's doing very well clearly very successful but she also like from the moment she sees. How like a wounded Nicole? is she kicks off her shoes. She sits down on the couch with her. It becomes like a very tender like girlfriend experience. Almost were she's actively listening to her. So I I think at the end of the day she is a bit of a shark like the whole that whole reveal fill that hole revealed by the way of like. We got one more day with Charlie. You want right. That is that to me. Is the core of her characters. Like she's very nice like she will speak very nice to you and listen and be empathetic but the end of the day. She is also as much of a shark as like really does character is yes I just go about it in different ways but I don't think I don't think like a character actor who had no power in her life going to somebody like that Who's actually listening to her? And who may actually have a plan for her to get her life back on track like I don't blame her for that Sleep well I I think you know. I mean suffice to say we don't need to get too much more into it but I disagree with one hundred percent of everything you're saying right now. I mean the part about the part about by her support her the part of her being like you know there's being a tender girlfriend experience agreed she certainly has a much better like a scarlet. Janssen's characters certainly is a much better experience. It's Larry's office. But I never lost the sense that this is just a person who's doing their job as viewer being extremely China manipulative. I'm talking about character. Motivation here in like a wounded character Lake Nicole like looking for some sort of like just to fix this situation so that she can move on with their life in a way that helps her like to me that made sense. That's all I'm not. I'm not saying it is the right thing to do but it it made sense on a human. I think if you're defining monstrous nece this wrong. Had Jeff wrong term. Okay well Ma mantra extreme but like yeah so what I'm saying I'm saying like I attract the term but I think she is clearly the aggressor she drops like a nuclear bomb into the situation chaotic sufficient. I mean that's just that's just my opinion I don't know what this World War Two right in her. At the only reason that you you you believe that is because you take the the data as given by him you take the data that I mean. She the entire premise for the divorce is I want to move to La. And I have a life I want to move to l. a. and have a life and I want to bring my kid with me and the entire beginning of divorce is going you're moving back to La right right. And she's like I told you one hundred times I'm not moving back to New York. I'm moving back to New York. I Want I. This is what I want to do and him going. Yeah but we live in New York and that is the I think that is the key. If you look at this prism of young agree with him that they they lived in New York then like yeah then she seems like A. She's using a bazooka if you if you accept the fact that she has every right to have a life in La to make that decision then he is the monstrous one because every step of the way he is is not listening not not a not doing the very basic things he would need to do to let that happen not you you know not taking care of his kid not paying attention to either of those people in his family like you know it may seem like a bazooka to his life. But it's because his his life she didn't have one she's trying to begin one. Jeff I mean I've I've already acknowledged point and I disagree. I think we're just. Ah We fundamentally see. It seems like we saw two different films. And that's okay you know like we've we often have different opinions on things. I'm just talking about what was onscreen green during the course of this movie. Not Talking about all the stuff that happened before. Then I'm also talking. I know but like hey maybe we other interesting things to talk about. I think let's say I'm not going to get upset this. I'm I'm not a the the I think for me. The thesis of this movie and the reason it is a movie about hope and I it is explicitly stated in the text is is about a woman finally finding herself finally becoming a person and it's like the end of this movie is happiness and him finally going and I'm GonNa move out here and support the fact that we can have a family out here for a while by the way by the way great great little character beat in that scene gene. Because she's like she blinks at the news is like oh I'm happy for you but also fuck you because I I wanted something like that. There is there's a sense of like competitiveness in how she receives that needs to It's not always took the moment at all it's fine it's fine it's okay to have different reputations. Go there I I. I actually think I'm taking it more extreme than you do finger but I'll share my point. Jeff I mean talk to you go ahead you can finish now. I'm finished okay. Okay well I was GonNa say give me a second like I. I do think like that moment. That moment between two creatives like she is. She is now working. She has a job. She's built a life of her own and he comes in is like first of all. It's good news that he's coming back to la but he's doing it in a way that I was like there is a level in terms of how well they're doing and now they're not in one relationship so he's success is now in some way takes away from her success like I just found that really interesting and it's a great beat to have in the movie because it's like a half a second look it is not even that much but to me. That was really fascinating way to portray these people who still care about each other but are now like competing in some respects too so I had a completely different take away from that scene. Which is actually? I'm going to spoil the movie Boyhood Hood I think we've all talked about that movie on urine so at the end the boyhood basically like in the movie Boyhood Ethan Hawke is like this deadbeat dad right and he kind of like doesn't show up for his son and whatever and then towards the end of the movie he says he gives his monologue about. I like so much about like he becomes a responsible person during the course of the movie. During the course of a decade in this person's life even hawks character becomes a you know. Oh better father. He gets married shrines out he liked becomes like a business person and he says his son like so much about timing. You know like take me for instance. I probably turned out roughly about the same like something like what your mom would have actually appreciated and liked but it didn't happen in the right a timeframe for that to to work out. And that's the moment. I was reminded of at the end of this film when he says like. Hey by the way I took a job in L. A. and and it wasn't like a competition of you're an artist so it was like this is the thing I have been wanting for the entire like last ten years. You know like the thing that you I think that too by the way Dave thing you're saying is that it is that but it is also like. Oh well that's nice. It would have been nice if we did this. You know twenty five years ago we could have avoided this entire horrifying process in our lives. If we had just done this thing and the only way you get to him doing that thing is by her forcing it to happen is by her actualising. And saying I'm I deserve to be a person and the only way he'll hear that to the whole movie he doesn't hear that ever the only way he hears it is when lawyers tell him and and that's I think that's the real tragedy is that it takes her like the mediation thing. There's no universe in which the mediation thing works for these people because he's so self absorbed and so closed to even hearing who she is and what she wants like the idea that she's blowing up the mediation because she's such a bitch and you know and and you know just doesn't want to read her letter to me. I I think Mrs with movies actually saying which is like that's the reason they're getting divorced. Because this Kinda Shit doesn't work all right well any other thoughts. It's on marriage story before we wrap it up gets an extra view. I just want to say that the moment at the very or not the very very end but the moment before the very end the the child reading the list while wildly improbable and contrived I found to be utterly beautiful and moved to tears. I mean the driver his Chin Quiver is like man and it's Kitchen kitchen I think all the rap scenes of this movie or also kind of fantastic do because it puts Nicole in place of like. Oh she is she's there. She surrounded rounded by all these people who love and support. Her things are going great. Charlie has a lot to work through. He is singing sad sondheim songs for Karaoke and it is It is you know it's it's rough. It's rough but it's understandable. He's going through and then he shows up and they do the Halloween thing and she has a new guy just feels like well. Life moves on it. Kinda reminds reminds me of Parenthood in that way but the show and the movie this is interesting year for Sondheim. This has been three hit movies. This year that At least three I think I think I'm thinking of Joker which is like the most implausible. One again is out and this movie lot of I have to say this is one of those things too that reminds me. I just have this huge. Like cultural black halted. I'll never feel because I don't I don't have any love for like I hear these things in there but I don't have many like nostalgia or love for Sondheim or a lot of the stage music so when people were flipping out over Karaoke scene because that was all over twitter I was like okay. I've I have never heard the song before but I guess it's Nice. This is a nice character moment. That's Nice I mean it's a it's beautifully performed and done in one take and it's like You know the fact that the cameras sits on him there and forces him to do it and like he almost quits at a amount and it comes back and it's it's yeah I don't know I there's there's nothing as awkward as sad karaoke man. It is everybody in that room especially the people who aren't his friends because that's like an open restaurant. I guess man so Dave did not care for this film no I thought it was brilliant. It's like one of my top ten movies of the year. I thought we we strongly disagree about one on key component of the movie. But I still think it's great and I recommended it when I When I talked on the podcast couple of weeks ago so I will say one of the thing about it? Actually you know one thing you know like how we all have like little things like a tickles. Your fancy or that you're like whenever you see it in the movie like Oh like that that surfing really kind of touches me The one thing that I like I am always a sucker for is like couples like knowing one person a couple of knowing like preferences of the other person you know what I mean. Yeah like in real life. That always gets me. I'm always like whenever I see that I'm always like Oh. That's so sweet that they have the he'll have this salad. Yeah I want to eat. And then she's like okay. He'll have the salad hold addressing and did it. Yeah and it just like it's just like such as such an amazing touch about how they show you how intimate that relationship was And like how you kind of you kind of like farm off components of your life to another person when you're married to them right you're the thing about ordering the food like this person's going to take that take control of that for me and that's completely fine and and I I would have never thought that up I it feels like something that must have happened in real life but I never thought that they're going to be in the lawyer's office arguing strenuously and then they're going to order lunch and through the lunch ordering that's when you learn how close they are. You know like I like that whole whole scene is great because it's the lawyers to their like fuck you fuck you my clan fuck you and my client and then like timeout. Yeah it's like family. Yeah you know it's it's very it's just a game for them. You Know I. It's also true. You see that also when Ray Liotta character and Lord Durance character like interact outside the courtroom for a little bit. Oh Yeah I saw your wife at the blood. It's like this is just a job for them. You know like yeah lives are being destroyed and like it. They just like going to work the day job. You know So I love those little touches that helped to make this movie. What it is And just wanted to call that up before wrapping up so the movies marriage story. It's brilliant. I think the fact that we had such different opinion. You know. Victor Di Giovanni Johny in chat rooms saying like it's Schrodinger marriage. I think different people watch this. They bring parts of themselves when you know to the viewing viewing of this film and they come away with. I think it's pretty clear they come up with pretty vastly different interpretations of like who is in the right. WHO's in the wrong? Even what the movies trying to say about it and and I would say that in general is a mark of a really brilliant piece of art so that's marriage stories on net flicks. Let's move onto the next review. We have to talk about. It's uncut gems remaining crazy risks. Gamble ah about to pay off the Celtics on gun points and rebounds no no well I'll tell you what I know. It's the dumbest fucking valet ever heard. I disagree I disagree. Gary Gilmore You're taking place in bed very serious serious serious right now I know. Where is the money right now? To lay it means nothing. Meant nothin' place community thous else from trailer for Uncut Gems and use film by the SAFDIE brothers. Benny Josh Safdie. I'M GONNA the plot summary from a charismatic New York City Jeweler always on the lookout for the next big score makes a series of high stakes bets that could lead to the windfall of a lifetime. Now Devendra you and I are big fans of the Safti brothers previous film. Good time which I will say. I become less of a fan that movie overtime but I did enjoy initially interesting. I thought he was brilliant at the time as not only a great thriller but Agreed Social Commentary about white privilege. And I think it's a brilliant brilliant film stars a has an amazing performance by parents but in any case I think you were really kind of the driving force your like. Let's I really want to review Egyptian. Curiously why why was your. What was your fascination with this movie and did this movie live up to your expectations? Well also because people wouldn't shut shut the hell up about this movie like yeah. This movie's getting so much buzz. I Love Sandler in dramatic mood like Sandler using that like nervous energy. He has like in a way like almost like Punchdrunk love but this is a totally different direction. So I loved this movie. I think it is I I think it's just more accomplished movie than even guitar time where I liked. Good time but it also felt like a light version of a very score says he s good thing whereas this feels very different right this takes into the world of like New York City. Jewelers the people you pass when you're walking through the diamond district and the sort of like crazy lives. They live like that what they're selling who they're selling into his energy Ambler is just infectious in this movie. And this energy is basically allowed New Yorkers shouting each other like most of this movie is just shouting. It is like a Robert Altman movie shouting in in a movie. Indiana nineteen it is the most out of it. Is Robert Altman done in the style of love everybody shouting at the same time and man it is it is yeah it is like anxiety and it's hard to watch. It's also like so New York like when I hang out with like my New York family and it's a very New York thing. I think like the way allow the expression is shouting all the time. Even if you're not talking about like gambling and sports arts and legal things I think this movie's just of a place in the character is self is fascinating Handlers characters clearly a gambling addict addict clearly like an adrenaline junkie. In a certain way like it is just wild seeing this guy go and clearly. He's smart and he makes some smart Moose but he he is so he's so self destructive he cannot he cannot let a win be a win like he will always try to play it further And ultimately make things worse so I love this movie it is. It is the nervous energy coming out of movies. Unlike anything I've seen this year. Jeff Nada thoughts on uncut gems. Well they've I guess you could say my thoughts on uncut gems are best summed up in the form of Olympic. This film own puts me in a state of greatly elevated heart rate. It's wild to witness. Someone live like this just constantly spending more plates. How many people are familiar with that old That'll chestnut that'll plate spinner. It's become a cliche cliche but it was based on an old act where A performer would take big long sticks and put plates on them and spin them in the in the sticks would be balanced and the plates would be balanced on the sticks and because of the centrifugal force of the plate. They would stay. As Long. As the plate kept spinning it would stay balanced on the end of the stick and the performer would have numerous sticks and the the thrill of the audience would be to watch a plate. START TO WOBBLE WOBBLE and lose. It's the momentum and the performance to run over and spin one of the plates. And then another one wobbling run back over and just try to keep all of them going as long as possible. That's this movie in a nutshell and it is an incredible ride. It is an incredible ride. I've never Chrissy Nathan quite like this. It is you're strapped to the back of this guy. While he gopro hasn't hasn't while he just goes through the kind of life that I find so unlivable. These is the antithesis. It this is of everything I want out of my life. It is and you're right Devendra. He's addicted to it in on every level That stealing from Peter to to pay Paul that every moment he'd get something he risks it for something else for something greater he's constantly bombarded larded on all sides of promises made to one person that he has to fulfil the somebody else. It is heralding and thrilling and fun on and a vicarious look at these people who I assume exists. I assume this a are people. These are people that there are like this Not just in the jewelry business but just like all over the planet that just can pay off one credit card with another one or you know the these these things that are just. I can't live like that. I would just melt into a puddle of anxiety But it is wildly fun to watch a movie about got it and Sandler is great. It's sort of proof that he can still be great when he when he has the material to do it with JV In the last last review. We did this episode. You brought up production design. I think this movie is a masterwork of production design. Nine so much just communicated without ever pointing at it just in the kinds of apartments we go into the kinds of houses the jewelry district itself the the offices of those places what stuff is working with stuff is not working when we walk into his son's room and he's got memorabilia wall-to-wall inside. Yeah it's just it's communicate so much with so little I I love this movie. I think Kevin Garnett gives a great performance. Like who knew who knew. But I assume Dave I assume based on your words last week about the Irishman that you are angry agree at this movie because of the lies it is telling about a real event in our history. I assume that you take your is that it is taking a real event with real people and tried to claim that there was some magic powers at play and yeah but see the mirror story reviews carrying over into this review. You Know Jeff that did bother me. In fact I thought it was actually quite brilliant how they integrated life event so it's possible L. D. something based on a history and not agonists. Okay but the protagonist is not a real person in okay. So whatever point the movies trying to make is made separate from the real life of sure the real life events factor into it but it is not the crux on which movie hangs in my opinion in at least so that being said point routes a little bit. We're going to be that court enough It's GonNa be rough so I really enjoyed this movie. I thought it was really well done and I think I think that the only thing that everything you said is true I agree under unlike with our merits. Were view agree. One hundred percent with everything. You're saying I think that like and also talking about the CETERA. I think one of the things that I really love about this after brothers movies is how they use lighting like this always so much like fluorescent lights in their movies and it always has this this amazing character to it partially I think due to the fact that I believe this movie was shot on film and they shoot their movies on film. And that's something that's rare and there's there is a character to the image that I think you wouldn't get if this is like pristine digital imagery with no grain or anything like that that And so I just love the look of it I love the feel of it. There's intensity to it. There's there's cross talk as you guys pointed out and there's this kind of propulsed nature of is this person going to be able to manage this extremely dangerous tightrope act you know. There's all this suspense so I really enjoyed it. I liked it a lot. It's one of my favorite films Vera. It's so crazy by the way that like in the first ten and a half months months of this year I saw six movies that I'd feel comfortable putting in my top ten and in the last you know two months six weeks thirty six weeks. I've seen like you know eight movies that I wear the case. Though right I mean it's like you know award season et Cetera et Cetera. Generally it's been it's has felt better pace to me though like in Indiana. Oh there's been like one movie on February that was amazing and one in in March I was in and so on but this year. It's just like a bunch of it's been fear for you dave interview now like some really amazing richest. I think the the only thing that I would and we really should be in spoilers to get really into this but I'll just hint at it right now. I think the only thing I really don't th. That's like like keeps this movie from being like best of all time or whatever for me scores. I don't feel like it. Has that much to say beyond being being like a really effective genre exercise. I think that that's how I felt about good time like after I started thinking about it because I feel like we made a good argument for what that movie could be about in the so you know in our review but I never every visit that movie. It just didn't leave me with as much of an impact whereas this wins like I I hear you. I don't think there's a greater later message here but this guy like seeing this guy do this thing we know so many people like him it feels like a singular story about an Adrenalin. Junky like this and I know the way we push ourselves in America capitalism capital late stage capitalism for sure AIDS capitalism Yeah you can throw a- anything so my my one thing that I did not change gears. We'll get I want to talk about that more but My one thing that I didn't like was the I felt the score was just too oppressive. It just it just it. It made itself known. You didn't need more shouting. Yeah Yeah exactly. It's just it's loud and and and I like like the music as music but it just felt like can we turn that down please. This is jeff in your in your old age now like I need I. Yeah I need a break from this movie. Yeah neither relaxed kind of related to that too like their everything feels oppressive in this movie and even there like camera movements even their style style like everything is just meant to like disarm you a little I do find one of the Edo this movie opens with Minors finding this through this chunk of like uncut Opal and the camera zooms in an end like oh man or finding something is or something meaningful about this transition to another her to another scene and I feel like what it transitions to is hilarious. And I don't I don't know if there's a deeper meaning to it but it feels like a big fuck you to the audience basically like A. You're you're just airing it. This guy's something. That is hilarious to me. Yeah well I before we get to suppose I do want to just say I think pretty much every performance in your is also Adam Sandler. Yeah is great as hard ratner. WHO's like he is is addicted to the adrenaline? And like not only see addicted to it. He has become inured to it like he no longer creates any feeling for him anymore. It's just his way of of Living Julia Fox. This first movie. Great influence her before she did this movie. She's awesome. You can totally understand. Why Howard this person much more difficult to understand why she would fall for Howard but whatever shape? What does she see she? It Demands L. playing the anti frozen you know. She's she's definitely wanted to go. She did not let go and Leaky stanfield like as a smooth operator as demonic loved him and Eric Bogosian playing the opposite of the character he plays in succession. I should say extremely cutthroat hyper-capitalist I every performance is awesome in this movie and Kevin Garnett. He's Kevin has. It has stuff to do in this movie. He's not just walk on NBA Cameo. It's not it's not. It's not just like Oh there's a real NBA player in this. He has dramatic scenes that he needs to play. He does it will. Oh Yeah I love. I love even the like tough guys that goes in surrounds themselves with like A. They look like they look like if I walk into a bar and those guys are like at the bar and they're the only ones air I do a GRANDPA Simpson and just go turn right around around. Because I don't I don't want to be part of this year. Yeah so great. Yeah I so curious about how you conceive of this movie like do do you I get your Nba Star and then worked backwards from there about Eb fees. They their family worked in the diamond district. Their father did so. There's a lot of these stories. The insanity of it. I think they piece together. A bunch of things. Nobody I mean I mean do you. I cast Kevin Garnett and then find the games that work for the weekend to be in a particularly not so great scene. I don't know but it's very is on the events events of real NBA history. Did you find out who you can get first. And then find out the games that would work best based on you know so. According to an interview with vulture they originally designed the film around Kobe Bryant Alison considered Stu Meyer and Joel embiid. It started with student. Meyer who is a Knicks player in two thousand ten. That's when we started the project. He's famously a black Jewish person so the theme of the movie presented themselves. I we Ethiopian. Jewish tribe Beta Beta Israelites. Black OPALS which are found by Jewish tribe in the Beta Israelites and willow minds. Amari is a very spiritual person. He calls himself the spiritual gangster but about Twenty fifteen twenty sixteen and we're having trouble getting financing finding the right person stars Howard and our agency suggested casting up and going with Kobe Bryant Kobe. They didn't understand the themes of the movie. He's a west coast person. Listen we needed East Coast Games because we have around the reality of the Games and this is very east coast energy movie like I think particularly jeff seeing you sit through this I would love to be in a theater with the dislike. There's nothing California about this movie. I loved it. I mean that one passing choice define so much in the movie because it's like we got adopted Philadelphia. We got we got. We got it sets the date. The date comes up on his movie only because it has to be these games. It's so interesting to me. How that all everything in the movie like the technology they're using phones and stuff? Yeah apparently our wouldn't shave his head to match games that we had to shoot around so then we're like okay. Who is left? And we looked and Kevin Garnett. Fate is a real thing. It was meant to be Kevin's role from the beginning. Even though we hated him as an expense end quote come on come on but then they write that in the movie where even characters Knicks Fan. All right let's get the spoilers uncut gems starting right now now looking for the secret Tennessee law. But you won't find it because of course they're not gonNA yes she this. You're not really looking have been possible over how it works. You don't really want to work it out talking diamond Elliott. I want to be so I think one of my favorite parts of this movie is when he hands him. That like you know. This character is the architect of his own undoing right and like at every step of the way every step he could do something that would lessen his s right. This movie could be titled a series of very stupid decisions yet increasingly stupid decisions. They're so bad but I think really when the movie starts to kind of unravel is when he gives the Baltic having Garnett. And you're just like oh he's he's not he's never never get this back or he's not getting it back and he wants doing. Yeah you do not let that out of your sight. But he does. And then and then there's later that brilliant seem when he's like the bidding scene and he asks his friend to bid for him and and it's just like incredible his father-in-law it's father-in-law. Ah Yes yes. And he's about to get a divorce. It's like so it's so great but no my favorite thing about that scene is like I'm going to give you this opal. That is completely stupid. It's okay I'll give you my ring as collateral. Okay cool immediately watched to the Panchayat immediately. Yeah it is that level of chaos is what is what is so vicariously fun for me about this movie. It's cannock there's no movement of just going. Okay everything's fine. It's always gotta be fucking myself and and I think there's peaks and valleys to the net. You're never not action. No not anxious when watching this movie but this peak valley so when he turns into the ring and he's like okay if you don't come here by blank day keeping this ring and like I'm extremely anxious and he really get the ring back. Then he gets the Kevin Garnett just shows up with the Opel. And I'm like Oh my gosh amazing you should be kissing the ground right now. And then uh shows up with the re and then he gets the ring. Where's the rain? Everything is going. According to like everything is looking up for Howard right and then this final sequence where he takes the money and bets it on Kevin Garnett and it was excruciating. And I just have to say that like Doc. I watched this movie on a screener disk and I had to like pause and like walk away and come back. I was so stressed out during the final sequence sense of like the were there watching the game and you have no idea what's going to happen right. Yeah Trapped in the room. Man That is their movies is where you can predict. What's the you know how things are going to end up and I feel like this movie ended in a way I predicted but I did not expect that whole that whole torture situation? Basically it was cool out. Ed Mohegan Sun. I've been to that place. I've been to Mohegan Sun Casino But that whole final sequence was super brilliant and like it. It kept me guessing until the last minute as to what was going to happen right I mean the moment when the rich guy who's hitting on Julia Fox like goes up and picks up the money. I'm like Oh my gosh. Did he subdue her. And like he's taking the money for himself and let me ask you this question in your head cannon like in your mind's version of events. Does she get away or is she captured by this. Extremely violent thug that murders Howard and his His brother-in-law hope she's the hero. I think she's the of this movie. Yeah I would hope like once. She realizes what happens because she will hear the news at some points. Like I should not go anywhere where you know. I don't never go back to that apartment like just go disappears this've yet van become a ghost vanish into the night. Yeah I love six underground interview magazine. By the way has has an interview with uncut gems. I have some older man. His name is Wayne Diamond. He is like an east coast character. He is this is who he is. That character he plays in the movie is who he is. It's amazing I mean go check check that out. Yeah I don't know how it couldn't be I I was much more. The the the roller coaster ride for me was the first time he does the bet bet on Garnett and he wins and then gets abducted by you know by Goes in and and then he finds out you didn't play the canceled. The bet to me that was like Angel Man. 'cause he's you know he's got everything I think he wanted in that situation. Like it's all perfectly lined up. He did it. He put his balls on the table. You did it. Guy Cancelled the back so I felt that excruciating shitting Jeff for sure when I watched it like. Oh my gosh. What a terrible loss? But then as the movie continues you realize man if he had gotten if he had gotten the money he just would have wasted it somehow. Anyway I I mean how would have kept going until his end. Yeah yeah at the moment that I did not. I was not surprised by the gunshot to the head. I really wasn't wasn't I just felt like if the movie didn't do that I would have been surprised because like you don't lock those dudes in that room for that long. They're not gonNA come like well. I guess she got the money. It's all good. You know I think honestly the I'm curious I wanna ask you what you think about this like. There are a couple of sections in the movie. Eh where characters stare intensely into the Opel and the zooms into his Opel and it becomes like Nebula went out like it then becomes comes like Howard's colon but I'm curious what you guys make like my interpretation of why the movie showing all this is that like it reminds me of love a movie I was involved with the primary instinct. And he says in the movies like what mankind is ours more than anything else is transcendence and That they will they will pursue transcendence through any means necessary in the case of Howard. It's through nonstop adrenaline. But like the Opel like represents somehow somehow like having the Opel being in control of the Opel represents like Transcending what humankind is typically capable. I don't know what it's it's GonNa chant impossible thing you know having holding something like that and being able to see inside it. You're seeing history itself so I can. I can understand that like to me. I enjoy enjoy visiting museums and staring at minerals for the same reason. Yeah I mean if if the movie is about anything I think it's about that monologue analog that Adam Sandler gives to Kevin Garnett where he explicitly says. This is me. This is my game seven decisions. This is what I do that you try to drop thirty on the opponent and get in the zone and feel alive. This is how I do it. I try to win this you know I try to manipulate this and this is my NBA finals. And I think if you talk about transcendence that's I think that's that character and I think this is the movies attempt those those shots on the movies attempt to talk to address exactly what you're saying David at the beginning of your review which is is trying to be about something right is trying to link this micro series of events to a sort of grander macro cosmic. smick thing of why are we all here. What are we doing how you know? We're just a speck of dust in an infinite cosmos You know this hustle. This hustle is so it's so micro it is so about all of these little hyper important details and ultimately leave. It doesn't matter that's kind of what I got out of it because a great interpretation And Yeah I think you're right that that could be about. I don't know like I've read this like Pretty Withering Review of the movie. That's like hey you watch the movie. It's about this guy. This dumb guy doing doing stupid things and shocker the stupid things lead to his demise you know like like we we kind of know where this is heading from the beginning and the movie does little to surprise you. It's just exceptionally well executed. But there's a ton of that's that's my favorite one of my favorite genres. I mean a simple plan comes to mind. Signed judgment. Night comes to mind. I bring those Coen brothers movies again. Thanks yeah that's one of my favorite genres sub-genre genres let me be clear. I don't I don't agree with that. I don't agree that what have you but I'm like a kind of when I read a connoisseur. You're talking about a still really loved the movie. So you know what that also is what Macbeth Oriole Amos and and Romeo and Juliet you know. That's that's you know that's a that's a lot of movies. There's a lot of great drama that's about people making increasingly stupid decisions that lead to their demise. Yeah but they're done so with with a plum and that's why we love them all right anyway. I think they should bring us the end of our review of uncut gems. It's out in limited release right now. Did Crazy on on the independent box office circuit did like a hundred thousand dollars per theater. I think we really really good I think think a record for a twenty four so check it out. I have to go see it. I had to drive. I can walk down the street. I had to drive but when I got there packed it's amazing same. Well see two will be discussing next week on the PODCAST. 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Cousin Sal, Ozzie Guillen, Lebron Vs Courtside Karen, And Billy's Fight Song
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He said he's never had the much time to prepare his mind and body before the more film. My watch the more understand that got in my. And i was like wait what he has how much time. He's never had this much time. Oh of started like the bucks. I don't like that takes him out of his rhythm. You aaron rodgers hasn't had his family and his house for years and look for that god last week so i five hundred dollars him but he i like i like the box but i love the chiefs so this is you from the past. Yes no i know. I know he he he. Then i'm sure the diet's going really well and we agree that it hasn't started out looking really nice and slim Full beard is looking great. You haven't shaved stash and i think that You should bet on the chiefs because don't be a fucking idiot. We bet on the remember with the bills. You said that if you bet on the chiefs again you have to on the chiefs if you don't on them. You're going to get smoked hookah. Feel like what about eric fisher. Andy reid andy. Reid is going to get a double cheeseburger if he wins. He said he's got double china. I saw that. That's a big carrot on the stick. I do love. I do love the The attack of the old for the super bowl. The the big story line is like. Hey you want the young shiny head. Coach will guess what bruce arians and andy reid. They can still get it done. Yup yeah And also because of really good players on both of their teams. I good coach. I wanna see bruce arians. Give a speech after winning the lombardi. I think that'd be great to have a cocktail in his hand. In before he got to state he would do an ice lose down lombardi trophy freezer for like five minutes after the game was over. Bring it back out with a bottle of some probably some cheap like like a sky vodka and by the way can i just go off the rails real quick about sky vodka and how much i hate sky vodka it's always marketed as being like a fancy fucking vodka. Isn't the cool blue bottle when you try to drink it. it tastes like piss anyway. That's probably what he knew. Only vodka would drink absolute. We are going to do all of our props on friday show and we will hopefully get some new props already know. We have one new property the sportsbook. It's going to be the score. Gami but i wonder if we get prop For the gatorade bath like plus a million Bruce arians gets dunked in. Yeah in like a gin and tonic yet or at least have like a couple lime wedges giant lime wedges on the side i could see it preserves. Listen boys if we win this game. I want just just dunk me. Just i'll do a keg stand. I'll i'll do a handstand into an enormous jack and coke. He'll be like landfill from beer fest. Except they're going to put them into the gatorade cooler filled with kamikaze. Yes he's just going to suck his way out of there. But i don't think this i know but i'm the only code. There's so much time over concerns me. Because they've got like i is it demarcus robinson and one other guy kilgore the center. That was that wasn't covert that was close contact. Which usually the guys are able to to still play a credit to the nfl for still pretending that they're doing cova test. That's that is more than i expected them to go straight to. Oh yeah. everyone's pas irreverence negative. Everyone's negative everyone's negative without testing anyone but apparently they're still testing. What do you think would happen. If mahomes and tom brady both covert this week. Nope nothing absolutely nothing. They they play the game they delay. They know they would play the game in. No we wouldn't find out they could both have it right now. We wouldn't get a single word about and tom. Brady's in a high risk group too. Yeah he's it's it's. It's such a weird super bowl week because it's i saw a picture of radio row. There's no one there There's some there's a few people who are down there but even tampa fifty degrees. Everyone was complaining about it. But you didn't get the full complaints so didn't feel because imagine if if it was a regular year you get forty degrees on a on a super bowl monday. People are pissed at adam. Schefter would be complaining on twitter about how there's a snowstorm in dallas. Prisco would be wearing like seven scarfs at a time. You can't even see the top of his head. We can't even complain about the weather. This is such bullshit. Yeah at the very least. could we. At least get some like soci- russia style complaining where there in tampa all by themselves and hotel like i want to see wolves walking honestly people complaining about the faucets not working correctly in the bathrooms. We're not getting full vibe. We did get a little bit of the vibe from the guy from the l. a. times sam farmer. He tweeted out yesterday last time. The super bowl was in tampa. We got the boss. This time it's in tampa and we get the weekend. He's complaining about it and it's like yes it's it's strange. How some things at sometimes are different from how we had. The boss we did weekend was like what fifteen years old last time. That was in tampa. Yeah damn we say hank are. You're going to bet the box. I'm a thousand percent building in my mind. I'm betting the chiefs. I want on the record. I'm betting chiefs. But i'm telling i'm being honest with our audience and telling them that throughout the week my brain is going to bounce back and forth and right now. I'm in a real bucks mood. I'm going to end up at the chiefs but right now i'm gonna real bucks moot on one hundred percent than chief. Some probably gonna put a a nuclear waste alarm box box box. Even hate doesn't know who the only thing that i've been wrestling with in my mind because we're we're we're traveling. We're going to be in philly ford. I'm sorry in a pack. And i was wondering i have a a lucky vest that i only wore the playoffs. The patriots playoffs into three super bowls. I wore the same best every time three championships. And i'm wondering does that can i. It's my lucky championship. it's a patriots fan. It is you who did you bet on in the nfc championship game. The box i been on the pack. No box interesting. Okay what did you wear glasses. Also the vest worn the best tuba. That's one more than but that's what i'm saying it's my. It's my when i need tom. Brady win i throw this vesta. but here's the process. Should i bring it like i do. Yeah but if you have if if the vest winds if the tom brady another super bowl. I think you've now erased all powers for the best for the patriots is now tom brady vest. Not a patriot. I might be okay with that frame. Just put it on the wall and be like all right. We got four championships outta the voice. You're gonna unload on the bucks. I guess you probably have to throw everything at. That's what i'm saying. It's like. I mean i have to wear something like there's vest literally sits in my closet. I don't bring out except for like when i need it. Here's what you need it. You bring the vest you obviously bring the vest but you don't put it on at the start of the game if the buck start to you. Leave the vest off. Yeah if you need to change up to vest mojo then boom you've got vested right. Don't waste the vest it because maybe the bucks win on their own right. You don't need it. What bill is about to bite his fist. We need those fists for friday night. I'll just wondering headphones. Is hank thing that it was bella. Check or brady. Oh is that applied to the discussion. That hasn't happened before both the whole team. What what do you land on it well. Where's hank lane. Who won the break-up. Billy tom brady. Of course why. He hasn't won anything. Did you guys see the report to the gronk. The most gronk thing. This is what sucks about. Not having super bowls we get the stupid stories. And we're not there for feels like some of the stupid stories are coming out because there's just not enough like media around digging for all right it's wednesday. What the fuck am i gonna right about now. Oh i'm gonna go visit hogan's house where he Got illegally taped by bubba. The love sponge do report from there but gronk had there was a report that gronk in the off season. The bucks wanted to make sure that you staying in shape and they would make him send videos of him sprinting and he would just changes shirt so he did all his workouts in day and then just kept on sending them on different days. I mean that is the genius. Rob gronkowski meta data. If no if i were a coach on the bucks and tom brady a crock. Sent me one of those first clue that it's fake is like. There's no chance of gronk as shirt all right so workout. Something's amiss now if you had gone shirtless and change the shorts. That would've fooled me. Yeah we'll like if. I'm if i'm watching rob gronkowski workout on a high school football field in the summertime. And he's wearing a shirt. Something's bogus he also definitely sent them a video like when it was raining all day and it was sunny. Yeah he didn't go that far. What do you think they announced the the uniform colors a yes. The boxer wearing red fight. No i think the. I don't like that triple check. I don't like that. What she last year white sheets they were arrested. They're wearing red. Chiefs are wearing the same color. I think that's correct. Yes i remember just the same. As last year he yeah books white. Okay that's good for tom is. It's yeah why they always win super bowl when the patriots are wearing white. Yeah did you see the stat. Tom brady is six and one against animals and owen to against her own to against non animals in the super bowl. Chiefs aren't an animal now giant machine. To what you know six one one loss one loss every once i once i read the quote earlier i already. I was already at peace with my pick. Just made me think it's going to be a blowout dot co in for tom. Brady is not like us. Like if i had twelve disrepair. I'd be preparing on day. Eleven and a half. And i would be like ooh sick. I got twelve days. I'm gonna sit in bed. Scroll on twitter for eleven of these twelve days and then i'm going to start focusing on the big game. Tom brady is actually probably like that scared me. That means that he's going to uncover something that he never saw. And it's gonna come out and like the fourth quarter. And then peter king gonna fucking masturbate onto a piece of paper being like tom. Brady found this in our seven hundred. Forty six of sitting in his tampa derek. Jeters house by himself. Yeah super bowl. Out and peter king except he intro with. Tom brady called me on my phone. fifteen minutes after the game was over and told me this has toss that in that same phone that was funded by illegally stolen hamburgers. Peter very true heat Yeah i'm staying. Gary still not going off the chiefs put it. Yes no not. You're right it's scary. It's scary to think about and the white uniform stat. That actually scares me a little more. My brain is flop twice in the last thirty seconds. Because i can't picture that she's winning super bowl not wearing red so if the bucks were going to be wearing red i was going to be more inclined to bet on them but now that here the tom brady stat about him. Always wearing white winning super bowls. That makes me wanna flop. I'm staying with the chiefs. I'm saying i am too i. Just i'm i'm being honest with ever. I even said this last week. When i said i'm going to bet chief sounds like listen. I'm gonna go back and forth Good thing is. I'm gonna take the over no matter what even though it looks like. There might be rain but who cares. That's fine. who cares. No one cares. I think it's supposed to clear out beforehand. So i love looking at forecasts seven days in advance being like i totally know what's going to be on sunday. I'm actually looking forward to the story. Line and i'm surprised. Nobody's talked about this yet. The iran matthew. Bruce arians connection about how bruce took the chance to draft iran because back. When bruce was in school he got kicked out a little bit too high. And then he's like this guy. This honey badger reminds me. Let me back in the day. I did see the story. Line of bruce arians. The greatest rushing quarterback to ever come out of virginia tech michael vick but i need more of that content of honey badger. I feel like the honey. Badger has been a little bit overlooked. This season yeah. And he's like my favorite. I think he's my favorite defensive player in the nfl. Yeah he's yeah. I mean he. The chiefs defense overall has been overlooked. I mean i know that the bucks defense is statistically better but the chiefs do have that vibe of like when they need it. They still have do like chris jones. You put up. Chris jones against pretty much any other defensive player in this game which is crazy to say. But it's like yeah. They might have the best defensive player in the game. We obviously it's up to debate. Christians is that fucking good so we'll do. The whole preview prop pets everything on friday. Friday we will have a hall of famer on the show and also jose canseco so that will be a great show. It's great we're going to be in west virginia. Billy's ready The other story. We've gotta talk about real quick. James verse courtside karen so Lebron james now. Billy i tasked you with this. I know you're busy. But lebron james How it went was he called. This guy who's sitting courtside was talking shit old steroid ass and then The the guy's wife started screaming at lebron and got kicked out and then afterwards was like. I'm defending my man I can just tell you i i. I did a deep dive on her instagram. Just so that. I would be prepared for the show I really like her. Why i think she might. She might have a little bit of the alley like him either. Carlo daddy was his instagram. Yes i don't think i like them. I'm a little terrified of her. Yeah i don't think. I layers me. And i'd also like to throw a flag on courtside karen. We can embrace debate on this. I think he's more of a becky than a. And i think if she if you tack like a extra twenty years on her and give her bangs. Well then she's a karen right now. This is textbook back. The difference is courtside. Becky yells lebron courtside. Karen tells the security that lebron was calling her husband a steroid yes. That's the big difference. I think so. Yeah i i agree with you there. yeah i just i don't know i i don't know if i'm down with like their whole vibe seem interesting So you know she's twenty five. He's whatever this isn't his first time going viral over. There was a picture of hollow daddy. Please get with a different woman. Who was his girlfriend at the time. It was the hawks cleavage post show cleavage out. Okay as he better than seeing boobs. Yeah on like courtside or front row. You like whoa. I didn't expect boobs their weight. I'm mixing sports website or usually go to huges for my porn. i'm just tuning in the game boob. Yeah balk yeah. That was a different era. The internet to when somebody could actually go viral just because there were big boobs et courtside. The headline is just massive. Cleavage on the sideline at the atlanta hawks. That's all you need. Lenny dykstra soups. I'm looking at it right now. I'm looking at the picture confirmed for everyone who's wondering boobs. So billy sent this to me Because when the story was breaking. Billy was like oh. I'm checking out the skies linked in right now sweet and i looked up carlo. Daddy's linked in here. It just lists all the different country clubs that he's a member of he's one of those guys as you don't wanna fuck with because he's richer than rich could be but no one really knows why or how there's there those guys floating out there and they'll cut a look alike. The spray tan the alleged steroids. That's by lebron not me. I didn't alleged. Did steroids The wife that's like forty years younger They all kind of have that five where you can say. He wouldn't need to do steroids. If it wasn't for the women he dates younger. Yeah you just trying to keep up with them he also has. I think he went private on instagram. But i looked looked at carlow daddy this morning and he had he actually rob gronkowski picture with his own son where he was. It was like a picture of him reading with his son and then like a week later. It was a picture of him reading with the. Somebody's wearing the same shirt. So i think it was going on completely or it was just taken the same session. But he had a bunch of fish that he caught Shirtless y'all credit to carlo daddy for that. This was the biggest mind. Fuck for me. When i looked at the couple i was like that's got to be a typo. This game was absolutely played in miami. This is a florida cobbles. Created a are if you if you see her instagram providing it's as atlanta miami atlanta airplane miami airplanes what steroids. Trt in a little bit of hgh bouncing. It's the good stuff. Oh he's loaded. But he's i don't think he's like jeff bezos load. We can get the real good stuff. So how how did you come to a conclusion with. Crt his subs- what was and what he has. His republic national distribution company has relations with a anti-asian clinic guys. Yeah that's aging asia clinic. I can't and asian aging okay ages right. We disavow anyone who's anti-asian of course and anti anti aging to we pro ages. No i'm actually zone anti-aging inside my own brain looking at my body. How many people out. There think that i'm actually twenty. Twenty twenty twenty two times. We've actually spoken that into existence. I got a lot of people be like man. You look like shit for twenty eight. Which yeah i do sorry. That's a tough life. Well it's better than whatever. Get whenever it's like dude. You're only thirty. Six watt fucking hurt. My feelings thanks a lot guys all right so trt in h. I think these are. This is alleged by lebron by the way not by us. Lebron called him an old steroid ass. Couple takes no one was going to say do you think. Lebron was projecting little methinks the lady doth protest too much. I owe interest whoever smelt it dealt it. What do you think that guy thought. When jeremy lin played on the hawks knowing his yeah stance probably boycott games. Did jeremy lin playful. Yeah try thanks. He gave played. Everywhere sleet ever was definitely on the hawkesbury year All right let's do hotseat cool thrown We're brought to you by our friends. 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Yes drew lock. Sold his fucking. Amc's morning yeah. David carr carr my my own is staten island chuck. Because everyone's favorite groundhog predicted that. We're going to have what just two more weeks of winter dos. So we're don. We're done winners over in the middle of the blizzard right now tropical storm or winter storm ursula whatever the fuck doses has. What's called get out. It's got a name. They just make up names to get ratings. Now that's how they get you. Fuck punxsutawney phil. That guy sucks. He does suck as such a piece of trash. Anybody that jeff low knew the name of the off brand punxsutawney phil staten island. Chuck chuck is a real one. I like him. I fox chuck Fuck with chuck. And i want to punt punxsutawney phil to the moon. Yeah right with my does bill de blasios. Go down to the tony. You take care of that. That was. The thing is probably dropped chuck. That's that's what he killed them. Die after that's way for new. That's why that's why we need down there. Winter storm orellana or laying. Yeah ursula leinna. Whatever what's the difference between a would shock and a groundhog by the way nothing. Nothing django billion. shame saying. It's like a cougar. Puma cougar is okay. Cougar and a a cougar. Puma cougar puma. An outline are all the same thing. Okay and panitan dunk. How are they different than a beaver. The beaver and the and the years are huge. What's dog and a cat beavers. No it's a stupid question beaver if you saw a beaver in real life. They're like way they're not like roadsides. They're like you know. They were big thought. They were was a size dude. Like people think oh beavers. Probably this big beavers are beavers like about as long as you're thinking. How big is a beaver. Bigger than a dog rather depends how old she is. thirty forty. yeah. That's that's what we all thought be no. I don't think it'd be was beaver. Ranges twenty four to seventy one pound. Seventy one pound beaver bro. I never thought a beaver was like a rat yet you. It was like maybe like bigger than a squirrel. This huge no. I thought it'd beaver was like yeah like a small dog. Seventy one pounds. That was pretty busy. Yeah that's that's about where. I thought it'd beaver landed okay. So you're looking at different briefers. Listen beavers bigger than you think. Oh nice billy nine hours and you like your beavers bigger. I saw shirt the other day. That was fuck. Was it or did you see that. A bigger tastier that chalupa. I liked that chris chris. The my hot see well. My hot seat was going to be punks tani. Fill fuck that bitch. My cool tyrone is ea sports and the return of and to video game the best. I haven't seen the internet universally loved something more than this game returning. It is so fucking great. It is going to take like two or three years which who cares. That's the most college football to schedule this three years in advance cares. We'll get here soon enough like you. You just set it and forget it. You know what i mean like this is. This was a monumental day. This is a great day. If felt great and then you just forget that it happened and then in like two years. Hey guess what next month we get the video yeah. I'm very excited about it. It's so much better than adding then stinks the new man. Good if was smart. They put doug's in the game puts some codes in there. And thanks to darren revell for that nice back into commerce which i'm not take any credit because it was it's the likeness rule but he tweeted. I hate to say it. But i'm like why did you have. What did he say he. He was drinking pussy cheerios today. Yeah say of big cat was like monumental and bringing this game back so what you have to say you hate to say. Yeah he's still bitter that What's her name left him leslie. He still hasn't track down. Your old lesbian. Is this going to be the same game. Because i saw some rumors out there that well the first thing that stuck out to me after being excited about it was it's not called. Nca football they called it college. Football work show are they. Are they still going to have like university of notre dame. Yes yes yes sure yes. That's yeah they're going to have not social. Yes or is it going to be like. Oh no it's alway back. It's always back in that respect. I hope it's not like madden because madden they've made it's too hard to like move. Everyone yeah game kinda suck i. They should just update whatever the two thousand and fourteen version. Just make it a little bit. Nice i'm worried that since they're changing the name it's not going to be the same. Oh i think the whole reason. Why coming back the likeness steal okay. Because they actually can can do this for real now. So i'm excited. I'm very excited. Great news it really was. I don't remember anything being Lake applauded unanimously on twitter. We gotta find the one guy like fuck that game. Probably some probably some dude. Who's yelling about game. Stop right now is like all. These millennials are going to just waste their life away playing video games and trading stop so the stock have gone up for game. Stop knowing that the most popular video was going to be coming old bastards at the hedge funds. Don't know entertainment billy. My hot seat is how they can take a skull fucking with my fists. Scott seat amazon's jeff bezos. Just step down which is kind of weird. Fuck what's the anyway. yeah My cool thrown is pranks boobs. A bunch of pranksters went to the hollywood sign and replaced it with holly boop. It's funny i love. That's awesome it again. Hollywood hollywood's holly boob. Did they put boob. That's w that's really. The julia rose flash at the at the world series check. Those why is why is stepping down. I don't know where people are there. Like business people were like. Yeah if you didn't see this coming you don't you're not falling business. Well guess what. I'm not going to focus full time on developing more dogs robot. Dogs that are gonna kill us. All it's gonna take over the world. Oh in would actually be a boss move respect that yeah jeff visas like i'm stepping down from amazon to take over the world. See you bitches in the third fiscal quarter. Just cool. Turn clinton news. He posted dunking which is sick at three hundred pounds. Okay nice nice Blue specks mass all right Did you have anything jake. yeah Hotseat france the olympic basketball schedule came out in. Us plays france. i long can we. Please put vince carter on that team. Just for that one game. He can teabag another seven definitely shape. Enough and then a cool thrown vince. Young returning the texas. he has. yeah. I saw that. Forget the exact role but not dude around. Yeah that's basically had that role at texas for like three of kirch and they brought him back. They always come up with a new title form. He's like Like quarterback i shall assistant athletic quarterback in amer emeritus. Yeah that works. That's like the best thing to do the best job to have. If you're a legend at a yeah you're always welcome right exactly Why would you say that about vince. Recurring guest route All right let's get you. Our interviews was due cousin. Sal first and then we'll have ozzy gin right after that before we get to cousins sal. I was thinking about healthy this year. That's a lie. No that's true you would think about. It helped me out. If you're trying to eat healthy. I highly recommend hellofresh. They actually make it super easy. The worst part about trying to eat healthy some days. 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And now here's cousin sal. Okay we now. Welcome on a very special guest. it is cousin sow. He has a book out the book is you can't lose them. All tales of a degenerate gambler is ridiculous friend's cousin's salads. Great to have you on. I want to thank you first and foremost for not sending us your book. So we don't have to pretend that we actually read it. It's just easier this way right. Yeah you're the first person i think we've ever had on. Who's pitching a book. That didn't even attempt like you didn't even ask like. Hey what's your address. Let me send a couple. No no no no. We're just going to pretend that we're gonna read it someday but you got me back by sending me the g- the zoom link through this interview forty five seconds before we started so. I guess it's tit for tat on your toes. You the king of pranks. Why don't you just want you described the cover force. Because that's all we were going to read anyways. Yeah the cover is me giving away my baby losing a blackjack hand but everyone is confused. They think the baby is being handed to me by the dealer and they don't not looking at the cards already. I can't get off on the right foot with the cover but yeah that's that's it that's all you need. I would almost be worse if if you lost a blackjack hand in your punishment was here. You have to raise this child yet. That's true that's a good point. Yeah we need to look into that their pictures in this book. Yeah i was thinking. I was kind of so many damn pictures. Don't people would rather people rather see pictures and read. Reading is terrible right socks. And i don't. I don't recommend anyone begin with my book. But yeah i had like four pages of pictures and there's like six on each page and i'm like why don't we do twenty pages of pictures like oh no. That's that's not cost efficient at all. So yes sorry you just get to see my my big fat grandmother Playing playing the slot machines. So that i also see that you have the forward by jimmy kimmel so credit to you for going outside your circle for that one. Huge my agent at him in Aspen and they hit it off. And i was like. Hey can you call in a favor. Yeah no it was one of those things where jimmy would have been very upset. If i didn't ask him but yes he did. He did a good job. Slamming me left and right and he had you on his show for the first time right. It's been like eight hours. And he finally invited you on. What's up with that. i've been doing pranks for him for ever and even on radio before them. But that was in fact the first time i sat out and got interviewed by him for for like six minutes. We ended up calling out like two and a half minutes worth of inside stuff. That made him cringe. But i think what was left was decent so speaking of the pranks do you walk around. The offices of jimmy kimmel live and everyone just flinches. Yeah it's it's pretty crazy. Be al over the years. I've had my certain you know now. With every everyone is very touchy. So i had about six or seven marks that i can continually go back to in fact i wanted to know pranked prank in which the cameras just following me around remember. People were flowing out because soon as they saw them and like. I have a piece of pizza just to give to my friend. Brad like kicked it out of my hand. Got nuts i imagine. It's like that at your office to just a lot of shenanigans. Yeah i heard that you're you're the sober guy so you don't drink you don't smoke but you hang around people who do and then at the end of the night they're easy marks for you. That's that's kind of bullshit that's kind of batting practice. Oh is it really. Yeah well i i i'm not it's not totally selfless to ices i eat like a slob and gamble and what if i drink i wanna i wanna stay alive another six or seven years at least so it's It's mostly because. I'm not fun. When i when i drink either but yeah i like to have my wits about. I'm told that at one point you you through piece of ham across the room and hid dave damage in the face dislike snipe them absolutely drilled them with it did you. Did you intentionally choose ham. Or did you think about going for like a harder meet like a salami why i did have an assortment of cold cuts and people were sleeping on a plane and i thought that was talking about rude and you know they. I think you've gotta be up got awaken waking. Wear and yeah. I went down. The rose through assorted salamis. If people and dave got the ham usually when we have guests on. I'll look up old tweets and mean things that are said about them. But i've gotta give you credit. Because i went to try to find it and all i had was from two thousand fourteen. I wrote how the hell did cousin. Sal end up on sportscenter. That guy has a dream. Life of just being guy i mean. Yeah right i actually you just said it. I mean i think that were We might be cousins because the way you described it as like i you know i don't really drink myself. My vices are eating like a slob and gambling as well Do you bet on all sports. Because i know you talk. Nfl all the time. But are you. Are you actually gambling on college basketball. Every night zad is the best slash worse sport to gamble on. It's terrible and i as nervous about like the next six weeks like we're we're in the dog days right before the ncaa tournament the super bowl. I mean i hate that. I hate that we have to do podcasts. On this for hours and fill time and pretend that i care about if lebron's going to mvp or not. but yeah. i i told eating contest. We're legitimate books now. That don't recognize award shows betting and hotdog eating contest. But yeah all over the place with that stuff. I when i was in the hotdog eating competition i cash the over for everyone for eleven and a half game in the in the. Nathan's i i love this time. I disagree with you so that. Actually i'm gonna. Maybe i'm gonna pull your gambling card there. I think february. When you're betting like providence first marquette and nineteen year olds are trying to make big decisions with thirty seconds left teams foul and then they stopped following and then there's no rhyme or reason. I love that stuff. That's my favorite. I you know what it is. I think i'm so depressed that football's over it takes me a couple of weeks to rejuvenate that it doesn't really start until march when you that which which hotdog eating contest with. How many years ago was it. I was in. Nathan's in two thousand fifteen sixteen pita attack me with fake blood covered fake. That's right. I remember that yeah. I think i wrote a terrible tweet about you. Then let me look it up. let me see. I bet that. I bet that hotdog eating contest and i've been at that exact one. I bet joey chestnut who obviously want right. I bet that the winner would have under seventy two and a half hot dogs consume on. Espn is showing sixty four after ten minutes. I'm celebrating. finally. I bet some something you have to bet baseball this summer. It sucks i went in the net carnival barker idiot interviews them afterwards. And he's like sixty four hotdogs. It was enough not your best. And he's like actually they forgot a plate. I eight seventy four seventy four a new record. I'm like whoa wait a minute. They're not going to check this really. That's it he wanted. You could just say whatever you want. Yeah you should have. I think you started following me a couple years ago. You might not have been falling back then. But i was so i was backstage with joey chestnut and i was like what's the deal today. Like how we feeling. And he said the humidity was perfect and they were fast bonds. He said that. Exact quote buns which i didn't know that was a real thing but apparently it is so. He kinda called his shot backstage. He's like yeah today's the day like it's not too hot not too cold fast bonds. I already see him. So yeah you got. I mean you should have just done research really. That's your flawed damn. It's so funny. Because i do research on stuff like that. For the anthem. The length of the anthem and the super bowl. It's gonna be overrun. There and i've actually had tips before from publicists who represent certain singers. And now let's go in way over the rehearsal. Six people in this rehearsal she went for it and it was. It ended up being bum advice. I don't even know what to do anymore. That was bullshit a couple years ago when the the singer saying the word brave twice and then they it after the first time she ended the word. Brave that the it is like. How do you appeal that. It's os controversial of all the super bowl. Because not only what you just said where the start and stop with brave but also you're depending on the network and the director because oftentimes they'll cut to the fighter jets overhead while the performer saying brave. And you're like all right was that four seconds was at eleven seconds. I have no idea so. Stay away out to generate you hear Cousin sal but like you. I mean this is pretty much my book. I should have written this book. But i actually date before. Barstool sports book I sing the rough and rowdy. We have a fight league. I sing the national anthem and they put out a line for it. And i made sure i held all the notes as long as possible so ever cash the over and they stopped doing that forever. They're like we can never do this again. That's good thinking at least Ury there's going to be. Fcs football so we're gonna people forgot about that. They delayed their season until until the end of The fbi and so. We're going to get like james madison. We're going to get like the all the new england schools and the small ones. So we're going to be able to at least have football on saturday afternoons to gamble on. It might not be what you'd want. It should tied your yeah. Yeah you're right. i'll take that. I do feel with This is different. Because it's college right. But i do feel like the the fringe leagues that. They tried to start up in the spring. I get excited and then like one two weeks in micoud hell even ruining for. There's not even a. He ate me to to latch onto. Yes yes. I'll try to get february on. So what's your what's your worst beat of all time. You know there was one. I had oklahoma state money. Line ridiculous money line. They remind us seventeen so it was on a par lay. It was like minus three thousand. But i needed them. The cash over central michigan and it doesn't get worse than this dummy mason. Rudolph has the ball up for with four seconds left in the fourth quarter. How do you lose that you hate through. He threw a pass that was deemed grounding somehow central michigan. Got the ball back and came down on crazy. Seventy five lateral play. And i lost. I dunno up. Can you beat up for with the ball. Fourth quarter and four seconds left. But that's action when you get max schools involved like not. That actually isn't even a bad. Because max schools will always have that random thing happened to him yet. Andrew those tuesday wednesday night games like you when you watch him. It's the unexpected. That's almost expect that to happen. You're right they should take those games off the board. It's almost unfair. All right so that one any other big ones. I mean the hotdog eating contest. I mentioned there are ones. i bet. Lala land i mean. The worst beets are the ones where you're told you won and you lost right about la la land. I had on a four legged parlay with best actress. Supporting actor director. I just needed lala. Land jimmy kimmel. My cousin was hosting the oscars on backstage and all of a sudden three producer. Ponytails man running around scared though like oh there's a problem here so while kimmel on the writers are celebrating a job. Well done on like putting my fist or wall. Because i got my lala. Land went away when they gave it to moonlight. So that's a bad one. Pass the fairness one and a lot on that saints rams game way. Make a rule for whenever they change a rule. Because you got screwed I think that's a bad veep on the on the pass interference and it became renew doable. Minute was and what are some of your guys. it's tough rick was was the oscars. Was that just jimmy kimmel prank. Was this like an elaborate. Rimas where he was just fucking with you. The realm aleve me. I looked around for the lipstick cameras and there didn't seem to be any yet to this day. I still wonder. Ma was the utah verse. Duke game in two thousand fifteen in the ncaa tournament and they They brought them back out to shoot free throws so it's kind of like what you're saying when it's over. I had utah plus six five or six if i go look it up. It's funny i'll look it up just to remind myself sometimes. And then all the stories that were written are my tweets embedded just bitching about the rafts and being like a travesty. I can't believe this happened. That's when you know you got a bad beat. When it's just you just relive yourself through the whole thing so think about now so now you could live bet events and games right. So what would the live bet. Line be on utah. After you basically want. You basically wouldn't have right. You wouldn't be able to live. Bet the other side so to me. Those are the one where zero percent. Chance the other way where i you could start kicking and screaming. Dad reminds me of the game that we play on this show every week. We call it. What's the spread So do you play some. What's the spread with us. Do subaru will do some prot. So you tell us we're gonna know cheating and he's pfc's it and then you're gonna say what's the spread okay. A safety to be wait. Wait hold on hold on. I don't think you understand the rules. Do you get the rules. I don't know if i get the rules. I've been doing this. Exact it for thirteen years are gone. What's this spread. What's the spread is a very much catchier title than guests the lines but yeah what's the spread is what are you talking. Would you ever call guessing what i read all about academy award right now the props you like. It's it's it's early for this. Have you figured out how you've done and tom brady super bowls. Because i think. I'm like i think i'm too in seven well. I had the over in the rams patriots super bowl that was minus moments. And i and i still porn. You know what i still. I remember watch while watching that game. I was like if they just get one touchdown. either side. this thing will break open and then it ended like thirteen to three or something. I definitely had. I the broncos against the seahawks in the super bowl. that was a tough one It but at least it was over. Yeah yeah. I don't know. I can't see betting on him or against them. I have trouble with brady. Like i said i think to add and i definitely had atlanta and it was worse than losing twenty three. I had three and a half. I bought the hook. So even if the patriots pull off the impossible and go to overtime i could still win if they kick a field goal but now right down the field and running plays well. There's always the thing too. I guess it's different this year because breeze on the box but there was a thing at the end with the with the patriots where it was a double loss because if you went against the patriots And you loss you would feel extra dumb because everyone would just reply and be like dude. How'd you go against brady and belichick. Like that's what. I bet on them against the titans when they you know. His last game is a patriot. 'cause i was thinking to myself sometimes. You'll bet things where you'll say. I just don't wanna look stupid. And then sometimes like sunday night. We both loved the bills and boyd. We look stupid like everyone. Just crashing us on twitter. That's a look stupid when you bet against patrick mahomes only giving three points. You look back and you're like what the fuck was i thinking right. But which is the look stupid side right bet against the better team which is obviously the chiefs or betting against brady like. Oh that's stupid. Why did you bet against bray in the super bowl. So i don't know i just don't think he'll embarrass himself if i get three and a half and they're down in the fourth we got a shot at a back door. Cover something right a on on the coin. Toss you've got to have to. Bitcoin saw i forget about the whatever. Your company you're affiliated. They now have heads are still. It's not hard to figure that out loud. I'm saying in general people. Forget about what you where you go but you can bet heads or tails or you could bet. Will the coin toss be picked correctly. Yeah and so now. I'm trying to figure out every variation of that. And so i lose thousands before the kickoff there we go i go ahead. I liked that. I like parlaying the coin toss. That's next level stuff right there so you can go really. Will the team picked correctly. What is the result going to be and will the team that wins the coin. Toss win the game you can do with three legged parlow jeff just on that. Yeah -at's at third level. I forgot about. You also seem to me like Another similarity between us is that you. You bet a lot of favorites like do you think that. The people are wired. Wake our producer hank. He loves betting big money line dogs and just rubbing in our face had Poor money line against mcgregor and he was the only one. We're all sportsbook. He's the only one who had it. Do you think something you're just born with either. You're like the big balls on the table. Money line you know plus four hundred guy or you're scaredy cat like me and you parlaying a million favorites hoping it hits now i parlay favorites and it's basically and i'm not gonna say i'm better than anyone else but i've been bitten. He asked. I feel like all through college. I would bet underdogs and and they wouldn't cover or they'll lose something. And i'm like you know what these teams play to win games right. So i'd rather have a good quarterback big money line parlay oklahoma state aside. But i'd rather like four or five together over saturday or sunday and try. They're all trying just to win. They're not trying to win by six or seven so i would do that otherwise. You're rooting for some shit head quarterback on inferior team in the fourth quarter to score a touchdown to bring it within four something. Do you ever get involved in the really stupid ones. Which i'm admittedly i like to do. Sometimes you bet that there won't be a safety. And i think that pays out like minus sixteen hundred or something along those lines absolutely. I mean i can't think of too many examples. That's an excellent one. The one. I'm thinking about the safety is they. Don't adjust that happened happened like twice in three years. That super bowl. You talked about outright. The dan right off the bat. The high snap and there was a safety. There was another one owned. Brady got called for intentional grounding. I was the only call ever against him. In the history of the sport against the giants. That was a safety and they didn't change it. I don't know what the odds are was like. That was prefers score those so. I think that was like thirty five to one. It has nothing to do with algorithm. They keep it at thirty five to one regardless if it has happens five times in a row or never so. Yeah but answer your question. I'm all over that. I mean that stuff is is is a fun things to like. Bet on especially the super and if it's happened so often recently it's not going to happen again. I know that's not at all. How probability works but at least in my brain. That's definitely how it is. It's like the the safest time to flies right after plane crash fact that's right. That's how i think. I think even even a smaller sample size. Oh the under dog covered in the nfc championship game the chiefs are going to dominate right. it's stupid to think that way i've zigzagged so many times before no they're all related it absolutely true. They're all related. They are the wild card round. This year was was a perfect example. I we have a friend who's big steelers fan. And and i was before the bears game started. I told them if the bears lose this game. The steelers are gonna lose because one of these favorites has to lose outright. So i was like. Oh this is going to happen so you better be rooting for the bears to win. Otherwise you have zero percent chance. I'd absolutely believe that stuff. That's ridiculous that it works out that way but if you look back in history that that is exactly how it plays out. What did you think about the nickelodeon game. That's one that. I bet on the bears when i was watching it. It's like insult to injury. When you're getting slammed end losing a bed at the same time. Yeah i'm with you. I was in the nickelodeon for like twenty minutes. And then i'm like. I want to hear romo. This is this is nice for kids. And i get what they would. You would want to hear writing. He named his son room. You you like romo. I'll this this interview is about to end abruptly. I'm friendly with tony romm. Oh great can you tell them to just fucking chill out once in a while. what's it why did he wrote against no. He didn't against anyone he's he's great at explaining the game. It's when he makes his sounds when he does get super super excited. That's when we're like. Hey just let it breathe a little tony and you going after someone for being excitable showing emotion in analyzing a game. This is really what you're doing. A little hick called leading the game speak for itself sounded. Yeah let it breathe. Let the joe buck. Let's see now. You know you can hear the crowd you you can feel the ambiance. Let's moments speak for itself. Sometimes tony romo will interrupt the moment. Well joe is play by play guy. He's the. I don't know i feel like the ten million dollar paycheck leads me to think that he might be doing some things right. I also think adele's doing a great job. Because he makes forty million that they do. Yeah yeah what about mike mccarthy or are you of the mindset like you're you're just lining up next coach already are if sean payton. We haven't had that rumor. Going into wild sean. Payton is going to move to dallas after the season. New orleans like. Are you all in on mccarthy like jerry jones or you get this guy out here you know. I'm going to tell them some slack. Because whenever the starting quarterback gets hurt although things didn't look promising You know those first few games when he was coaching wise but I'm such a jason garrett hitter that i need this guy can do crap for two years. I'd be fine. I really would but boy that you talk about. There's a lotta coaches who've been traveled for not going for it on fourth and one mccarthy's the only one that went forward this year got got crap for it was fourth and twelve. That thanksgiving play. Which i'm still sick and vomiting cranberries from but yeah. The game may have passed them by. But i'm willing to give another year. Yeah and i mean i was out on them and then he started smashing watermelons and then all of a sudden the entire season seemed to turn around. That was bullshit. Sal you know that. Like as a gambler. My two biggest bets. I probably lost this year. Were when the cowboys decided to smash watermelons before the game. And then they came out and look like fucking super bowl champs. That's shit's not fair from a gambler's perspective. I don't like it at all either. I don't know what the don't bet the cal. I have like twenty four teams. That i can't bet anymore the cowboys we had jeffrey. Ross on the show. A few months ago i might have been a year ago do you. Do you think that you went too far in the prank war. Now he's the roast master general all of a sudden. There's there's there's rules. There's some kind of cadillac brochure. We have to check for rules in terms of pranks and jokes and roasts. Now i think i think it was great. He had the lowest combined score ever for a dance. Why did he think why did he believe me. When i told them he was safe on that. That's that's what everyone should be focusing on. Yeah he was crushed like when we we brought it up to them. You could tell he he was still kind of her. It took a good six months that he tell you the whole story like tom cruise at bring us together. Yes kimmel's house and watching football and we did it basically like a trial and we both pled our case. And he's like why don't you just grow up already. And his mother was involved in everything. It was weird but yeah back then like kimmel on the heads up as to who was going to be kicked off a dancing with the stars because he then had an interview them an hour later it was like a prerequisite for a for abc. So that's why ross was reaching out to me. And that's why he believed them. When i said he was safe but like i said he was a terrible terrible dance. Or why why. He thought he had a chance beyond me. What's the setup like at. Jimmy's house on sunday. Do you guys still do that. Well we took a break this year. Actually we're at corollas warehouse now and we haven't in the last few weeks because of all the craziness with the virus but yeah he has a warehouse. Full of classic cars once owned by. Paul newman and outside of that area. He has a giant screen. Tv and we We split it into eight boxes and we watch. And he exists a rewind commercials and any analyzes commercials for forty three minutes and we end up behind watching the games that takes us some fourteen hours to watch six hours worth of games. But it's it's a lot of fun is it is there. Who's the biggest jinx there who's the guy who like will either be the biggest mush or the minute he starts talking about how his bets are doing everything reverses. It's probably my friend brad. Who was he's you know he's already like four and five years old but behaves like a twelve year old. He shows up with all kinds of candy from seven eleven and tiki punch. And he's yeah. He's basically got the same bets as us and rooting them on. And then he'll like crash at ten thirty eleven thirty in the morning because he's all hopped up on sugar and we don't hear from them and miraculously like you point out our team start doing well until he wakes up again. And then and then it's downhill but yeah he is. He is most bronx tale. I love that you guys have kinda just collected a bunch of guys out there. Like your group of friends is like the west coast Adam sandlers where it's like once you're in our group were just going to have you around because we like hanging out with you and you'll be involved on camera stuff off camera stuff. Who's the weirdest guy that you've collected god so tough you know. Probably probably my brad. There's probably there's my friend. Harry who i met in college and he really stepped up my gambling game You know we used to. We used to bet we got in bad with the local bookie but luckily the guy was also the rec league a thirteen year old basketball and and he liked us. So he's like you guys can basketball games if you will pay six dollars a game and great i. I would still be reading two games to try to pay off the hundreds of dollars. It could have been millions. It didn't matter. I didn't have the money. And so harry and i are effing and then harry. We got bored. And we started betting each other on the games that were roughing and so there would be like phantom travel calls and and everything and charges and And the parents were getting mad like oftentimes they would follow us out and we didn't have a car. They followed us as much as we want. They wanted to walk. Because we're walking home after the games and eventually the bookies like all right. We're not doing this anymore. We we got fired. What so the real question. Like you've had incredible career. You know working with your cousin. Jimmy you've been you've done smackdown you know you have. The podcast was simmons on mondays. What is it the. What's the key to you being successful. What you do and being the guy who. I read my tweet like just being a guy because i think there is something to it that even though you've had all the success you're very relatable guy. I think it's the same with you guys. And i walked you watching games. And you feed your. There's your nervous watching games. Like i try not to be in anything that i'm not you know like I don't win fifty percent of the time right. I'm not going to go out there. And tell people follow my picks when fifty nine percent of the time you'll clear fourteen units like that's nonsense like these stat heads and you put them on tv and it looks like they're shooting like a hostage video. There's no personality and it's just not real just like you know. I like what you guys do. I like what i do. I sit there. We'd be mon are losses. We talk about it on monday. Like oh we got crushed like yeah. I don't know. I also think people want to hear about losses more than they do wins. Says it's more it's right. It's more in their lane and it's a it rings. True for some reason also people just love feeling smarter than us and so we give them ample material to work with on that side. Like you don't wanna you don't wanna watch somebody on tv and feel inferior to that person if anything it you wanna do the exact opposite where you're like that guy's an idiot but i'm going to tune in to watch out dummies right. Exactly there's something that do and owning your losses as big too. There is a lot of people on tv. They'll try to call their shot and then they'll pivot and they'll be like well. I wasn't really wrong. It's i think it's funnier when you don't wanna be wrong. I don't want to lose. I lose a lot. But for instance back to the afc championship game. I mean we were. Pfc had mahomes in the hospital. And i had the bills winning by double digits so then when the game happens we could not have gotten it collectively more wrong. And i think people enjoy that a little bit even though i didn't enjoy losing the bet but it was kind of funny watching everything we predicted. Go the exact opposite way but you know what's great about that and i really i. I came to come to jesus moment about it just like last week. I mike for the most part you could be wrong. Seven weeks in a row and people will still listen to you. You could yell and scream about week. Eight about the you know about the chiefs in the super bowl. Even though he came off terrible prediction. It's like wow you're not gonna you're not gonna for the most part lose listeners viewers as a result and we're in a pretty good business in that regard. Yeah true you work with one of my favorite musicians. I guess you can call me a musician. Singer of all time dicky barrett from the boston does he. Can he turn the voice on and off 'cause easy announcer and when i hear him announcing the show. He doesn't have that he doesn't do the thing where he's gargling his entire throat while he's saying it does he just have like a switch that turns you know what's funny about that. In the beginning many years ago. When he started as the announcer he would is like a camel at our agent. James baby doll. Dixon said maybe you can't do that. It's late night. People were trying to fall asleep. Which is a weird advice to give someone who's starting up people trying to sleep during this talk show but Dickey was insulted but then realized that that was the right call and i think it saved his voice of may not actually lost his voice probably in nineteen ninety-three but it saved what was left of his voice for awhile but yeah he's a great guy a lot of fun so i haven't seen you tweet in support of the wringer union. What's up with that question. I got another gotcha question. For you. One of your. I guess you'd goma co worker constantly. I guess you could say. He appeals to the dumbest most ignorant people on the planet earth. And i'm just curious if you ever get sick of russillo talking about weightlifting so much love it. I love the misdirect. We've talked about rousseau. Who are who. Are you talking about who to shoot. Fox bet live. I really thought you were going another way. Rachel bananas we're we don't we don't talk for. He's a straight shooter. Russillo spied good enough guy. I talk about the. I would tell you that little couple things about the other one that you were alluding to who said. I don't know who you're matt. Damon got matt damon. Do you hang out with matt damon routinely you just like hanging out with now now routinely. I've gone to a couple concerts with him and he's been to jimmy's house and You know pro wrestling. It is that it's not true. They don't hate each other as much as They lied on television but Good guy matt damon. And i hate all the boston stuff. I believe me. I've had enough of all the boston people. But he's a good guy what What's the most star-studded like sunday afternoon at jimmy's house. Like was there ever a moment. We looked around as like what the hell there's this many people here like in their all a-listers at it was that day that tom cruise was there. I think afla and there was a super bowl whether it was affleck and damon and a few others. But the tom cruise thing was really really nuts. It was i mean. he's not. Everyone was showing off in front of them. Corolla has this touchdown dance. it's now since been replicated. But he does the thing where he's pretending to read a newspaper and and then drops a football from asia's kind of seen about i swear to you. Carl brought that into a psychic twenty five years ago and he This this for tom cruise and his mother. And i don't think they knew what the hell do about it. We tom cruise's mom. Tom brought his mom to this rule party she was there. Yeah there um man All right so. I know you gotta go in a minute so you can't lose them all is out now. Go buy the book. Ford by jimmy. Kimmel not not. That's unnamed dropped. Just who wrote the forward So give us this on the way out. One tip that you give in the book You didn't send to us that we're never going to read and then one super bowl prop at that. You've already got circled The tip is don't hedge hedging kills orders and for gardeners but i do like four steps of people. You know like if you if you were homeless man you find a ticket for ten thousand dollars on the chiefs to win the super bowl like maybe collect enough can so that you could hedge that way but otherwise don't ever do it. It's not worth it. It's just another extra that you're gonna lose Super bowl prop Kelsey first touchdown guys ridiculous. I mean he has over seven half receptions as eight with six minutes left in the second quarter so he's shovel pass. A bowling ball passes from the two yard line. I like that at seven to one seven fifty. I like that. Yes what about color. Gatorade do you lean one way or the other. You know it's funny. They don't have clear list at but Or orange and red which used to be one caller is now split into two because of the uniforms. But i go clear. People showing mercy on their coaches lately and they're pouring water instead of the instead of the sticky stuff so you can find clear go. I'm just gonna wait till there's some rumor that i feel like the gatorade every year. Come monday or tuesday a super bowl week. There's some rumor of some guy who knows some guy who's on the practice squad who's always use this and then just go opposite. Whatever that ends up being something will always like blue purple. Last year ended up being even money. It's like how is even a hot too makes no sense. Yeah right right. Oh no that was the prince year though right at prince's a colby imprint or something. I don't know why last year last year beat happened. Like every i had so many people hit me up. Be like hey heard. Purple purple purple. Actually think we had something to do with it. We spread that rumor. We got like enough. Dm's from people. And i think we asked to move the line on on nonsensical takes right. Watch the line bounce for clear. Keep an eye on the s well cousin sal. There's been a thrill man and now you come back on whenever we ask i would love to i. I enjoyed this a lot. Thanks fellas. I appreciate it all right. Thanks cousin sal was brought to you by our great friends at shady raise one of our favorite companies. They are the makers of the pmt grit sunglasses. They are the makers glasses. That i'm wearing right now. The glasses that i wear every single day are shady raised. They also came out with these new ski goggles. Which are sweet. I've never been skiing before my life. I'm gonna go. I'm going in like two weeks and you better believe bringing the shady race kit with me probably fall down a lot probably right on my but no. 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We're gonna talk a little baseball but we gotta really get down to why we have you on our intern. Billy football sitting in the middle of us right now is fighting. Jose canseco on friday night. You tweeted at us multiple times. Saying if billy wants to beat jose we better have you on so that you can help us. So is this real help. Are you teams air. You team billy way before. It was the first of all around but i know how you can beat them. You have to move around. You cannot find your to toes because you mugging but you arale. Obviously when you see all personal you will intimidate. You is the topic. I win then you but i see hosing but you to couple. Bdo's about fighting overseas other stuff. Just just hot. How maker you know we just don't i don't think he knows how to fight. Perry how you don't know how to survive who he's a fight or not a boxer. We'll billy's in really good shape right now. Have you ever be in good shape because not because you post on instagram or whatever is starting to intimidate you whatever but at the mentally have to be prepared to not exactly why they wanna do in me. Yeah halsey off for one thing. Just say you. Just he's saying that. I would knock him now and what not been naturally go to be added for princes one for the parts. Move around you. you know what to do. Just meant him run around you because he won't to target but then you you could come up with a lot of success in a mosaic. Believe me these guy when he put his mind. Something i see. I see a lotta Say movies Life disguise wouldn't be the best in anything dos. Obviously ninety eight percent fail. go for saying what we played. Baseball is what is supposed to be doing to wanted time While the best player in the game i went to couple side gateway to and i see people. Walk the ballpark this to see him. And that's why we'll say after. Die fighting you gotta grow with that you've got to grow with you. Know what it finds becoming moneo big man famous and jewelry. And you're still waiting for like i've been. You had a good chance to be. My man is wherever. I say i will take. The winner will pick the winner and just to see your house. Reaction also sought stupid by winning your say wing as like okay. This is not a. Can you couple of stroke. What a win closing down at least on the panel. I'll be there i will. I will hand. But i and seven years old man on how to shape so i wrote in three all the inaugural industry aerob- industry by throw project hopefully in his out. Oh so you're saying that. Billy might have the mental toughness to beat jose. I think so. I wanted to say yes i will the you care what you do all this. Also repealing bash man to that's to bring you meds anita because you see housi- sides you might i wild. But in the meanwhile bizet marlboro. I will say. I mean fi. Will you don't wanna kill you know my question. Is you say you know. Jose how the hell did jose lose all his money like he doesn't drink he doesn't use drugs he's apparently. So how did he lose all his money. That's the real question. Vianney miami liden adb. He's the author you play up late. Few played with hand in tampa and kinda follow him beat around hoses is a very smart man in might unravel the wrong people. Talk about row people bob mentally not on the street. I don't care but a One player a by the way is not a fighter man. So get his head. House is not a fighter. I see percival percival drill ram them and how was in the middle of the orbits around Dog ow plus is not a fighter. Yeah jose just wanted you to bet and laugh when he was playing. I don't know now see also hit a why would you would you. Would you consider him to be a bully. Like a guy who when you stand up to him he'll back down a little bit. Put gas me. I'm five eleven but when you stand up to him and say you know what i sure is right you back up. Yeah you know. I mean you guys can go forward. But when he's not right at least fifty five percent you up. Oh let me see what. I did wrong i did. I just think about it. They didn't come up with another another. Another way but I it's interesting. You going to be interesting on winning. A we'll see now and i don't even drink what size. My birthday allies. I've got permission to smoke in my house to get some cigars and enjoy awesome. It got to be so awesome. I wish i can be recycled to talk. Shit around watching. Fuck him up. No seriously like all things considered i'm going in there. I've been trained for the. I've done all the hard work. I've done all the hard work. I remember you tweet at me on a friday night being like. I hope you're not drinking beer. Anything i've been you know like go in. Turn my body into an absolute weapon for the past month and a half so on about the way i think halsey just wisdom wait. Yeah he he's yeah and show you. How big is our destroy. You buy a bunch of is not boxing shape. How big fan. How lucky hawking in looking best boxer ever mayweather tiny funded empowering. People hate him and these making the morning but very smart boxer. That's why i think when you given the rain is not how strong you can be his house. Meyer do indeed and happing to while the best heavy points. In in boxing mike tyson mike tyson. Just there may not be as down by just boxing winning. You don't know what to do. You just want to hold what. What should billy visualize. Like if you go into a boxing match wu. Who would you visualize. Would you visualize like i'm to go. Beat up joe west or Like who would get you angry to should really do something like that. Get that anger going up. Who's the guy that you would do. That with is budgeting joe west. I should be ashamed. Not the only way drove have been me just eating meals on. You can't kill west out though that neck. You like apple. But i think it'd be honest with you one year. I have a little problem with the media here in chicago. One guy by north. You're gonna say mike north american jobs. Mariotti you talk about barrack with north to be careful jays our senior icelandic up in my body my curse him out on his own show our lady show wrigley field. Like hey man you know how to. Yeah go frantically. Week pays off and jane. We're not so bad leg. Wait a minute what i ever do to you and you say. Stop up on me. I like wait a minute marines. Never here in the clouds white. They all that information. I as you write what you re. He's was personally with jay and me was easy. Cited for jew pig would on who do get the monitor charity. What is still on okay what to do that. I don't wanna do shirt inch. L. to roll we'll host it will hosted a referendum jay. Mariotti is a world-class douchebag so we will absolutely host it. We will pump you up. You'll be you'll be our champion. Why because guys into including. I'm no media in ladda big spore people beyond the washing it and people brains you will be on in washington and they'd rooting for me all this stuff. It did. But that's only really. Because i'd personal when you you manage your baseball you in the sport you whatever three a media figured nobody can say nice though by all the time but you say dope like a very personal stuff. One thing this idiot. Saying i think leeann was eating wife before he married Think you know right now. As soon as a first of all i was maybe one was in feedback on every wallace twinning. I was getting on my wife. Mom you about what he he knows. Lying around his wife is better. Look at the my wife. it'd be like that. Yeah you're correct. Yes you're absolutely right. I mean have you seen jay mariotti. I don't think that he's not being a class. Everybody see my wife and being personal when people say may you to mason compliment. I don't get upset. A duck that ladies grandma as hot as to why because eight is announcing man. I'm older looking at you. Know is a lot of a lot of google. But that's why i had to find somebody that's not about. I'm yeah for. I will put morality in the in. You just pay for that. I wanna see that fight so bad so ozzy. When i'm at the way in. I'm going face to face with jose. What should i do in your in your opinion just looking at his face and you look you want each. Wasn't you know. I had a metric. Cuban coffee out here to beat you ozzy. How how should we look at jose to determine whether or not it's actually him and not his twin ozzy because he's had his twin ozzy. Step inform at the last minute to box in years. So we wanna make sure this is actually jose. How can we tell for sure that it's him is. This was smaller than hey waste more more often. Okay always leaving us behind me is always ozzy's body like you know everywhere to go to. You can see i. I think i think as we go to have more air. Okay moheb eat. And jose is way more bigger house and you can see. The ring. goes measuring wrinkles. Wrinkle check posing of wrinkles to fix it so you. I should do to talk. Trash this ozzy because you look tiny looks like. Oh you. ozzy is tidy as wanting to ozzy wasn't on my son hitting coach Some of the league's. And i hear ozzy talked about teaching everybody the same way atomic ozzy osbourne be teaching the same way to everyone's white because one guy jury one guy is five seven hundred and ten pounds than other guy. Six eight three hundred fifty home run hitter. I need to everybody like that. Let was envied our my god. I wonder one kidwai heating one twenty. We'd so here's the only problem. Though is that i'm worried. The you are two good friends with jose. So you're giving us advice. That might be going. The might backfire. How can we. Are you routing for. Billy i need you say you're rooting for billy. Well yes hosing to fight twenty. I would like. I was thinking on on the radio guy. I like that you're going. You're famous everybody going to see just to see halsey been a share you be. That's for sure you know you know that type of guy be posting stop and this is the way i were cow and i work out these. This is my trainer brighter. Maybe straightening over botchy by feel like. Oh my god hundred ninety not to fight. You can learn how to fly in one week you mind. No how to kill people. Boxing and punch it in today's throws few bunches. Just just walk around with them just around and listen and listen to the corner so ozzy. Can we get you back in baseball. And you're gonna manage ever again. I wish other services so many crazy things happening last couple of years with the game. You just kind of shock and come embarrassing kinda sad situation now working on tv. I paused 'cause with are being fun doing it because the book has haven't been the podcast and people being always going to be right in mike. Pence is i want to step on throws and tony shalhoub. You're wrong and i will redo the central would essentially we hop on the saints all hair. Yeah when using what we're watching. Tv one one and also make conversation so we made this choice is a conversation show. We don't have anything to ask the union come up in Talking something about this. When i see the topics in other song we got something that we should talk about. It was. Some topic is a good friends of mine. We had thought about it. I talk about it. i really go into san. Where would would would the white sox. Nbc sport a lot of people want. They were some company. You have to be careful what you say when you say how you say unto me just going to be on his fact this. I don't give up Breaking breaking news. I'm not into the used to say when they ask me questions we will ask. That's my general. But i i wish i wish i wanna be much again. I i do i do. I wanna be down. What don't you like you. You just mentioned that you know the way. The game has shifted what. What don't you like about today's game and baseball. What is you know if you were managing again. What would you change versus how it's going right now. Well i could just say. I'm is now watching against some. Tv they were. I was a kid managing a team. Play change people in appropriate change a lot One thing about it into visual be equal thanking you've got to put everything in balance together It can be one is throwing another in both have to sit down together at least a you know what i think about his about this okay. Let's put it this thing and grow is overly insurance brokers of baseball a team just thinking about bigly team talk about organization to put it together when the numbers and all the computers with with the mentality about gut feeling not know that the background is so many different things because people were they will. They don't know anything about downstairs. They got effect. The people donald stare talk today about somebody at a prayer. But they don't know really those guys and it only know the number and dis and they always pick a superstar. We're going to borana okay. Not too many people like like the best pitch in the game we've go. He helix trout. I said not. Many people can do what they do and when they follow them i think everybody has his own style is own way is omen tidy. Get the best player. Be the best opportunity to hustle says. That's why the monitor does leader to mean lena's the guy. He helped everyone everyone to be good to compete. That's a leader guys at my. I will good my way. This is their way is going to be no or no way and let the leadership is when everybody surround together Were says paid. When you're leader joined to lead it because i got the money and the stats and then dinner because how the brain no at the leaders is one guy got all the stop and put it together and were to get this to me. Leadership in baseball like Like net president. You can be the best president by the people around you. Don't don't do it together you. You're going to be the worst president. In countries that way initiate be tried to put everything together and alabama's hard go then told you what to say what to do want to do because society change everything changed. Everything changed for ten vote for back. No it change. what if what. If as again was made commissioner baseball. We like to ask over baseball guests. This is like one change that you would make to the sport. I'm going back to normal long the down the camera. Go by the gluco undo back. Yeah i hate it. I gotta face three is eighty. Because you don't know the managers is good bad good monitoring the matchups. Let me go to gamble with that. I got to make this move and like that. That three dollars on a like it. I was on the guy not brain and not in the gaining more. I wish you all stop in the playoffs. I will see a lot of moving in the playoff goo goo for the team goofy baseball. Grow the game. Yeah general because people just want to be in the playoff nfl nba nba. You know who would it be the least everybody. Go gaba chess to be there. That's one thing about it. The dia to come up with the At the basketball is more phone with the h. I'm we forgot. The last couple of guys went to hall of fame there. What did you teaching. Frank hair all Martinez and his is another another to another position. Before it wasn't like okay. The guy wrong the less you got more power now be h to me is. Is the position. Do god to somebody need a day off or cutler bay off yukon guy in jiu lineup to rest do no need to be popping. Dia the frontal hero bank just the h. h. is formula to get one more guy in the roster and to respiratory more than the past. So one of your favorite one of my favorite ozzy lines that you would tell. Your team is play hard. Drink hard have sex hard. Do you think plays today if you were manager. That's the stuff that like. We need ozzie. Guillen the baseball back of baseball. Because i agree that you see a lot of managers now they do whatever the front office says that everything scripted. You're a gut go with your gut kinda guy. We need that back in baseball fan. Yes he's the front office. Day day they way is always say you play heart to heart and you are satire and you three five hundred seven. Nobody's yeah why because not day is the har- people say. Wow oh my god also no. It's not also been right. Say ball players. Don't drink anymore because all the stock media sarah forms why they must see to gay hookup for three days. Young wife upset before i remember. I remember my manager say names. I was a close the door day. Here have a drink and talk about the game tony. Yup yeah yes yeah okay. I think news no agro industry grow g leila like a beer and twenty one years old. I never in my life. Oh god just listen to the big boys the poor countries. Then don't see her. They hit obeys reach a dozen other. The big boys talk about baseball news. Nowadays that was monitoring about the rules. One i got upset. I said we're going to talk to the media. Nobody can lead the cloud. Come back to. This was why. Because i talk to the media when combat everybody nobody in the cloud. What a minute which again. Nobody talk about why we go now. Days wife waiting for For the halls bed now they got to a school and they don't have a chance opportunity to talk about the game. They talk about something our so immediate old. You see what is post you see what this say or the guy freaked the back then not talking about the debris gang how to through now. They know watching game on tv and then again they got their behind and looking at videos and west. Addison the bdo they just like. Hey how geigy then. Nobody talk about it like they used to so wait. Now days i look at it. Do not see leaders or leaders. The guy in the mall similar pictures on instagram. In be pedal with the media minute after they. Will you fucking ass leader. Tom seaver a grandma told me recipes man because i thought too stupid on the field german dying. We're not mature stubby. Do something on the wrong. The august guy. I will not play this game and now they know wanted. They know that there's no way to find. You know you see your teammates matter you because you know wrong heart. All lively omb ago. A hated him. Do you know what i mean. Because i'm not no and african american lung white before the magic and we got a kid that and that's a real leadership when you me our leader to my team i was heating one. Twenty two twenty two pretty. I wasn't needed win. Threat was a two rain on the rodman through tom fist. Those guys our blackjack. I want to lead on the team because you know why because i feared by everyone. We not uniform. I know cab guy. He didn't four forty mean friend to me what the same warning was not bechtol. Bertel out. I will care by everyone three everybody the same way. And that's what we missing the game Where do you wanna made the comment about. I was glad to turn a russa went bat. Managing the white sox people was me. Oh my god is he of people want me to be the managing for them this year. But when they hide twenty hour omega because tony i don't they tony will be the same guys who was in nineteen ninety five on respect that too but then tony how to bring the white sox. Y sucks need on behalf on the field. I don't care what they do on the field but all of stairs by. I've been tony as a guy he goes. Listen to rosa and wafted away. Tony go prepared to win at this ball ballclub in hotlanta success. So i'm a cubs fan. And i know that you were lying. When you talk about the rats at wrigley have you been to the new wrigley. Have you seen what you. What's your take on wrigley now after all the renovations. Beautiful rid rid. Reiterates admitted the previous show aside the original. With a lot yeah. I don't see any more. Because i know liked invite people when they're working to the filming. We one time. A couple of and mr reiki woken. Is it ozzie. Louima's humaneness pay dog me so much shit about this book as listed sir. I never say anything about by really feel outside wrigley field because wrigley field to me if you continue to follow the unity repeal. Unc shit in go to new york. Liberty Okay but the best around aside right now and the past was wrigley. Field wrigley field goal wasn't body awesome. It was the greatest place to be a what minute sooner walked the blouse a welcome. The field he wanted buried under. Rats is a fact guys as again komo with this mutt. Siamese suicide coach barking. I know remember his name right now. Poking my starbucks and to hit a yeah. Oh my god the rats in in in in in the case so big i said i never visit dell field. Never wanted my just. Because i ate rats iraq. Anything move around taganrog with them. Never saw right you just heard about rats and then decided to say that really had wrap problem. When did you ballpark all over. I mean there's rats always all over chicago. La home alive sober amnesty around the last seven month to leave with me. I just say he added was more more because reading the south stand evening i love it. I love to go. There is a fan. I not to go. There is a word. Yeah ozzy less last question for me. I was just wondering on that same vein. Does jose have any phobias. Rats snakes squash any animals. He's scared of. I was gonna ask before you. Jose scared to pitch and core ball. Yeah okay so we got a commitment alimony truth and try and giving one hundred percent without aid of steroid. Child support judges all those. This scare him. You know what i mean. That's what i say. I is smart. We have opportunity talk lot. I don't know how many you make so many mistakes in life. I think there's a chance he might not be as smart as you think he is. Maybe we hey buddy because talking about five hundred one day. Her baby his baby questioning. She's up inches matter. Right now. choosy josie follows. Her wife. hung with beautiful. Woman is and one day we come down with my kids and her soul her these bobby state non i honestly do their basic instinct me. She never did. I wish she never basically bumpy. Stay did go here up into big jesse. Pick it up on shore dress dress under got. I walked cloths and a megan funding. Hosie hosing englewood the hearts not the next. You see the pink dollar guy yesterday a winter while you why by me. Stay with the baby. I saw her energies and he would. You wanna kill our good. I said that's easy to pick my head. Who why are you so by day by. Not stupid while boxes. Wanted to head going in. No because i won't. I just wanted to be mad at me. I'm you know what i would think. That guy's jose was very smart. I think they will i. i ended. Don't want yeah no. You're you're smart. Hey do you still last last question me. Do you still hate nick swisher. I love that. Feud i've never i never hate me. Sutures is that human. Being was a guy i did it. I hate hanging as a player yet. Okay that counts. Yeah no. I mean. I hate him as a person. I is a player. Yes because they do so many things in your team. We never see that before. And then coming from me that coming from a lie guys in housing jenner module off. The this appeal was horrible. I mean but of the bill. Greg i got his own life care by anyone. You just only count on me about. I've made that comment it. Just because i care about what did on the field but other feel. I don't know you do whatever you want to feel feel. This was great was goofing. My son ozzy was mary old. Beta somebody in that particular. Time was spent a lot of chinese house. I know announcing in saudi house. You know drug testing. Didn't they named that then are not the person or lichen is national anthem. Really embalming by player when he played for the white stops. I don't feel when we played for cleveland. New york automated. What are we playing out better. Hopefully the how better view the meat next week. A baseball player. Yeah let me say this. You're biting nine. I got a buddy i. What is super monitor. What in you you buddy. Nine wasn't oakland. you buddy. Eight to two hundred. You'll need switcher. You'll see stemming ninety is gonna blame him now loop bigamous open. I will monitor do how this guy said biting anybody. Nice now you both. Why soft you bonding i. Well ozzy this has been awesome man. Play hard drink hard. Have sex hard. We're going to billy's get do it. On on friday night. Rough and rowdy. I do want to point out that billy hasn't been drinking or having sex so should he fight bill on thursday night off work yes raining after i honestly we have to get you laid on thursday after the fighter you really can no no marriage that game. He's married to the game. He's married to the fight game. Okay you know. Mary you can do whatever you want. But after the fight is to send a man play hard during heart. And that's probably going to play this can have sex. Yeah which added sure. Let's let's make. I don't have it with me right now. We my guy through the rooster rules now things. Now you're guam fire. Yeah maybe we can do the guy the guy. Oh gosh rooster guys work card with no hard play hard. They had six. Yes okay you know me through my career on the one pretty hard. The resume up nursery former white house. He take you so much man. We really appreciate this great tune in friday night. Excuse me today. How eight watching watching every fine. Everyone every everyone we go to watch it and is you may be where we would have wedging. My house is nicer. You know they can go through the air. But i now these that didn't talk about the fighting. You guys want to me. Because i i think it'd be great. I think we need more of this. Yes yes more might be according to what we should do this entertainment. Yes do more than that. Hopefully people copied from an hopefully. Hopefully you'll be because we'll pick the winner okay. Perfect i love it ozzie. Thank you so much. you're legend. Excise appreciate thank you so much. I see okay. Let's wrap up with guys on chicks by the way we got What jeff jesus is going to be doing post amazon. Life lenny. Dykstra just tweeted them. Jeff bezos now that you're stepping down as head of amazon. Let's meet up and discuss a potential joint venture unite can do together so there it is. I love that like that. Will day shipping on sex dolls. Cabinets gonna be. Listen you get those two minds in a room. We're really we've been talking about going to the moon a lot. This guys limit. Yeah hank guzzanti. I mean it's very clear that this is just an inch of his midlife crisis. Right probably he just got divorced. And he's like you know what more cargo pants being a. Ceo is taking time away from all the poon slaying again doing dinosaur bones. I'm buying hey. Pmt boys especially sig bat in t.f. Oh my boyfriend seems to be obsessed with the la buttons claims joke. But i think there's a good chance he's serious he calls. It is honey hole. He constantly reaches the put his finger in and sometimes we'll beg for length romantic nights. I'll put on lingerie and he's still go straight from my belly button so do guys joke about that kind of suffer from dating a maniac brett farve that all the time hours for just for convenience purposes are things fit together my honey hole. Oh my god. It's kind of weird isn't the belly. Button like a sacred place in certain spirituality. he's sure might be made. Is that where you're she is. Yes i do have a lot of linton minds deepest belly button in the world. Actually i johnson and tried to fuck mine so it can happen. We also asked people to send it. They have advice for bill. you know. get their advice. Good this person. Says i have some advice for billy head body head body. Yeah yeah billy. Who's going to be in that ring fighting me that not all you know what you what you know what you had when all of us billy if a nation i have so many people coming out over we know you had a guest list of one hundred fifty people wanted to come see me fight but can i get a text know that. Hey guys are just wondering Billy seems to be under the impression that he's bringing forty people with them Did you guys tell them to do that. It went and then i got another test taxed alleged. Billy invited his entire football team. There's one hundred people he wants you. Okay look i'm really bad so we can tell people reach you. There's no but tickets so hard very his advice world there's never been endemic. No but like think about like what i said. Well i was trying to like you know in negotiation shoot high. And then you see how many people can end up taking. So that's what's real quick. Hey billy this is. This is lance. We learned so. Let's troy hey. Can we get forty tickets for the fight. We won't be there to support you ever want to rage votes i. It's a pandemic you cannot come. Oh always pussy you. Will you think crowbars real. You've changed lib. Okay thanksgiving drake at my dad's house and we also have fifty more guys that we want to bring us plus fifties and our guns. Make sure there's room for our consumer person bringing a gun with you gotta try fighting saying no to people who are supporting you. You should be focused on the fight. Bill this is like super bowl. Yeah outsource all those outs where all the delusions to who. Hank jake i. Yeah there might have. I focused on the fight. Just be like jake. Jake's taking care of all that stuff for me no i didn't sound like you're about to throw some shade throw some shade. Hey pfc and big cat happy. Belated by the way. I was wondering if something my boyfriend does normal size. How i get him to stop. He is obsessed with peeing an empty water bottles around his room. Every time i go nothing wrong. He has a new set of p bottles one to three at a time. He says because he never knows what needs clean p. to get drug tested. Yup i don't think he's even being drug tested. He's also constantly smoking weed with his friends. Never clean to spite the. He's very organized and relatively well-kept guy. Is this normal guys. Pinballs bottles for fun. Or is he just fucking weird. Also how do i get him to stop. This guy definitely thinks that if he just like let's he thinks that if he pays and leaves it for a month then. It will be evaporates. It'd be good the we'd like you won't test we get. We can just leave it. Leave it in the sun for thirty days actually turns into vinegar man. I like nothing's wrong with nelson. You're you're you're the one who's wrong. Yeah sounds like a pretty normal guy. He definitely thinks that this is sterile. Yeah he's dating them like wine bottles and he's like. Oh this is my april batch this you could also just get like some some house plants and put them in the corner. I bet he'd be more likely to pee into those huh. Or whatever happened just putting something fun in the toilet to aim at. Yeah your cheerios. Yeah duckie the worst. The unions the axe and that pops back up the b aim the b the the the urinals they have the like the little screw yeah and so you aim for that but it just pops right back up so you've got the be law. That's all the ice truck. Is the goat Billy needs to knock it. Hit in the face while also hitting roy in the face okay. That's actually really conor. Mcgregor didn't follow that. I've been working on that okay. He's got a small face though doesn't it compared to his body. Got a pretty big target head to hit. Feel what's what's the tapering off here. Are you still sparring known. Iced might last sparring session was on saturday. Okay good because i just had to point that out because there definitely was a world that you would like spar on thursday. That was one that you needed to bring your sparring partner. You said that at one point like my sparring partner down there. So i can spark fourth ios to warm up these three minute fight times. Yeah well i was going to go before he was gonna. You don't always get hit in the face. Sometimes you're just working with the guy that would be so you to come out already bleeding. You'll used to do just like your heart rate up and get your adrenaline going. You should pay the guy with a gun to hunt you when you talk. Some people are very responsible gun. No i'm bringing heading put guys you tell him to. What know this. Good guys with guns Anyway so yeah. I'm very proud. I might just play video games all friday. Because i just want this fight. I just i wish you was like right now. Because i just want to get it over with because i'm done the hard part. The waiting now is just aggravating. What's this thing that you just say There's so there's two songs we're gonna end with one. Okay last advisors. Hey billy jones ailing should zag and vice versa. And then this person text us a a tune thought we could try and sing it together and then we'll have to wait. I think know the melody. What is there once was abandoned to fight jose. The name was billy no way shadow. He blues twitter. Billy the beserk. He blew beserk com to destroy. Jose an internet scum friday kids money sloughing desert calm story hotel internet fi day when the shriveled rest. Bill is money. Endo mean should be soon made the billy man come back either way better song. Ready someone out there. Edm remix it. look guys. Here's here's billy's real number thirty. Two elephants have religion eight. Maybe time eight ninety. Five kids have belief systems. All right here. It is will premiere. What was the style of magic dragons. Me enron singing punched ninety five line. He's brick ucok pal. Your is icing and talk. 'cause he put out a working you stood up by madonna. Because you act like the birkin into pudding by simply he's like oj under loose poges looking for pimple. He must be back on the juice. Bloated through play over. Think you're an awkward. You broke with your head your twin drug. Ruin your life but don't with carry cup. You're sharing your wife. Own deadline. bucket break yukon cow. You're running game going back to billy's donate he's bucket. Break your yukon. you're gonna pitch swing and this failed. Thank you pocket breath. Pardon my take presented by barstool sports.