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Byte The Art Of Cinematic Sound

Sci-Fi Talk Byte

02:37 min | Last week

Byte The Art Of Cinematic Sound

"Hi welcome to season two of bite. This is tony auto parenting an apocalypse. It's it's not the same way you you know how it works. Any views usually two to four minutes long but sometimes they can be a little longer. When you when you live long enough. All kinds of strange things happen very right in saying that. The greek heroes the original superheroes in part because of the whole nature of genes vision but also because of its message of diversity and inclusion making waves. The art of cinematic sound is a documentary. That showcases those talented men and women that create sound for film. It could be any kind of sound effect. You here it's usually created for that film. Here is the director midge. Causton glad that you do their film on an area that's really overlooked so sounds like a labor of love. How did this all come together. Well it's like. I was hollywood sound editor for many years. But i'm kind of born again one. Because i started out a picture i was at film school. I didn't understand. I thought sound was all technical and then it came out and i realized i'm like oh you can do so much with like reflecting character. give it motion just even like an ambiance can change us feels about plays or person and also what dog sound like. What is your house. Sound like what outside of their house. Sound like this so many things to do. So i became so passionate about town and then they started to then i was asked to teach. I love teaching. And i went back to teaching and Because i really wanted to give them a leg up students so they wouldn't be in the dark like i was feeling like ooh sound is so scary. I would have panic attacks. So it's so great that You know to have this and that now have in film form and that people can see it and the tribeca took it took it on and then and then we just out. we're gonna can won't had. What was the process like to get some of these legends like mystery. I know i knew. Gary i know i was in. The industry. had new people. Sherman also why it was their sound and they respect them so much did the film. And that's how. I got the big people i got through to the sound people and you know it's like more by art. You know because they really care about and they did it for their sound. Sound designers for congratulations for bite. This is tony tamalada.

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Passion Business Podcast  Episode 0: Welcome & What its all about

Passion Business Podcast

06:53 min | 2 years ago

Passion Business Podcast Episode 0: Welcome & What its all about

"I should business podcast the put Causton spire pollen. Support creatives coaches and other free spirits out to turn a passion into business shooting into hear about way to boot your business. That's fun creative and way fostered wore fictive than following somebody else's proven successful listened to ordinary people in me share the story of creating their passion business and you'll see as possible future. I'm common business coaching into lifelock creator and only take living. Geek, and I'm host join the podcast, please subscriber leave a review Nigerians and chain. So that more people can find it. Welcome to the very first episode exit zero. If you like today, I wanna share what would by this podcast who it's for. And why it might be worth? You listening. I can two thousand seventeen I was invited to speak at the short talks conference in Devon in the UK over NAS by the amazing list. God and junior Brey talked about her story of how image to turn out my sewing business off to suffering from severe burn out back in two thousand twelve. So there was sharing how a lifting pro in the UK with the somewhat crazy idea of moving to Spain to start my own. So in business, I talked about how when old good goal in people. Please himself struggled with the demands of pushy clients, and how one inside turned vowed literally moment now that personal transformation lit to become coach. So I could help others. Make this enterpreneurship thing is you, but you the brakes people cannot to me and basically all. Ask the same question. Well, wait a minute. You just quit. You job moved to different country and started the sewing business union about. Oh, I'd love to be able to do that. And we'll be I'd love to but really mazing will places people would love to live in business aren't years. They would love to pursue dreams to fall. But immediately after they were the bus unloved to all I don't have the courage that. This would say I have an idea. I know what I want to break it down into smaller steps to take action obvious would sell love to. But I it overwhelmed by the take all the conflict in advice out. They and was the classic. I'd love to. But it didn't have time. The things when it comes down to it. None of these reasons and hope people back will hold up when some point of bucket alive and awesome sauce, but a really made most of it. One ago. I listened to before you you don't follow her to recommend date. I watched I listened to refer interview brawny where and they were talking about her book. That's cool top five regrets of the dying. Because only way had spent many years working in hospitals and working with patients with terminal illnesses. And it turns out that not falling dreams is number one top of list of people who grant when they come to inveighs, and I'm on a mission to change that. And that mission is personal me. Because I on my heard about the top regret. I'm meet vote. My grandma who was this beautiful outgoing Bobby personality with lots of things she would have loved to do. Somehow never felt she could. So in the end, cheap pasta way as they say with her music inside. Now, I'm here to crush a few moves for anybody who would love to or has already gone out to turn their passion into business, but finds a challenge in. For most episodes all having guest share his her journey, and what a fabulous mix of people lined up looked famous internet Marcus or otherwise famous people, but north people just like you may so that you can see it. No. It's not too early to late. No, mental age your, and yes, it will take longer than you probably thought. But that doesn't mean that s something wrong with you all the way into things, and I want you to really understand that business. Building business is no a straight line from a to b and following a proven successful Mula doesn't get you to any foster despite this by would clipper market internet lightest trying to convince you of now chasing shortcuts, isn't what gets you where you wanna go. The thing is you have to takes to turn your passion into business when you tap into your creative potential when you remember that it's not always the journey is just as important as this nation. Yes. Yup. You will need to stop. Yes. Some days even feel like getting anywhere. And yes, some should just what out the way you. But it's about success successful failure. It's about heading in the direction of nutrient with note been wind and then take one step at a time. And is everything in life. This is an experiment and a co creation is a topic. You love it took about or if you know, somebody would be great guest. We've if you'd love to be is to sell just get in touch by Email social media, but the links in the show notes so that I'm easy to find a new love to hear from you. So let's get this party started. And I'll see you in the next episode. Thanks for listening to the business podcasts. If you enjoy this episode don't forget to see the next one.

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E104: Tensegrity - Carlos Castaneda

Cults

51:20 min | 1 year ago

E104: Tensegrity - Carlos Castaneda

"Due to the graphic nature of this cult crimes listener discretion is advised this episode includes discussions of coercion drug use and suicide that that some people may find offensive we advise extreme caution for children under the age of thirteen. Carlos Cost Anita stood at the top of a massive cliff his teachers a pair of sorcerers named Don on one end on Harrow stood at asides whispering secrets in his ears as he listened Kosten. Yada stared there'd at the chasm before him. It held terrible danger. The drop wasn't even the worst of it custom. Yada knew that the Gorge Gorge housed a powerful spirit a no wall that could destroy him with a thought but forty eight year old cost Anita had spent five years preparing for this moment he was supposed to face the deadly drop and the now wall and prove his worth as a sorcerer. The moment came for customer data to jump but he held back. The fall frightened him too much as did the vicious things. Eh waited at the bottom. He wasn't ready for the test without warning. Dongwon stopped whispering his instructions. Don Anwar seized coordinator and gave him a hard push as he stumbled forward cost. Anita felt his fear melt melt away after all this was his destiny he let gravity take him as he toppled over the edge adage Hi I'm Greg Olsen and I'm Vanessa Richardson and this is called Apar- cast original every Tuesday. We take take a look at it. Cults practices their leader and their followers you can find all episodes of cults and all other park has originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream colts for free on spotify just open the APP and type cults in the search bar at par cast. Were grateful grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network and if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a Five-star review wherever you're listening it really does help today. Eh were taking a deep dive into ten segments a yoga style program that combines physical motion with new age philosophy it was designed designed by author and self proclaimed sorcerer Carlos Causton Yada this week will tell the story of custom NATO's first forays into a cult philosophy awesome and how his career as a writer set the stage for him to later found ten next week. We'll explore the way he used manipulation. It'd be Latian sexual coercion and isolation to keep his adherents and lie. We'll also explore. The lives of his most devoted disciples a group of women in cost Anita referred to as witches before we get too foreign to our story we should clarify that customer data wrote extensively about his life in his books which were largely fabrications will be sharing his this version of the narrative while trying to maintain a certain amount of skepticism according to Kostunica he was born in Sao Paulo Brazil on December twenty fifth one thousand nine hundred forty one his parents were wealthy and well educated and he received the best education money could buy but official records records show that instead he was born in Markelle Peru on December Twenty Fifth Nineteen Twenty Five. His father was a manual labor and his mother was only sixteen when she gave birth Vanessa's going to take over the psychology from here. Please note Vanessa is not a licensed psychologist psychiatrist tryst but she has done a lot of research for the show. Thanks Greg lying about one's background is a common tactic used by by manipulating to seem more exciting or exotic than they really are Joe Navarro of the FBI's National Security Divisions Behavioral Analysis Assist Program sites lying or concealing one's background as one of the common traits shared among dangerous cult leaders. We can already see how customer data fits this bill by the fact that he lied about basic details such as how old he was and who his parents were we don't know much about Kostunica's childhood but we do know that from early on Kosta Neda struggled with two competing and contradictory feelings he suffered from low self esteem and he overcompensated by demanding love respect and praise from everyone around him. psychoanalyst Alfred Adler are noted that insecure people often spend their lives striving for superiority and sometimes those people become so good at acting confident president. They managed to even convince themselves that they're posturing is real so Kostunica fluctuated fluctuated between crippling south out and periods of grandiosity during his self-assured periods. He loved to be the center of attention. Although ironically from a young age he disliked having his picture taken this means. We have very few images of him today. Veronica Soko of Penn State observed that this common people with a heightened sense of self worth in order to maintain their inflated self image. These individuals must avoid scrutiny at all costs any record of cost anita's thoughts or behavior even something as seemingly innocent as a photograph was the threat to his own self aggrandizement Carlos Cost Anita convinced himself that his greatness lay in his artistic ability Andy Group passionate what about visual art and sculpture he was especially interested in native South American art styles and worked with traditional media like terra cotta and soapstone stone after studying at the School of fine arts in Lima he resolved to dedicate life sculpting in nineteen fifty one when Castenada was twenty six years old he immigrated to the United States to further his studies and shape his career but he discovered that opportunities for young sculptors altars were limited instead of renown Kost Anita Fund himself working minimum wage jobs like taxi driving and retail work. Dr Susan Krauss Whitbourne of the University of Massachusetts Amherst noted that people with an inflated did sense of self worth or especially averse to acknowledging their own failure. If such a person tries to do something but doesn't achieve their goal. They'll often blame. External factors rather than learning are growing from the experience in Kostunica's case. He couldn't accept that as artistic skills were lacking when put in a position where he had to admit his faults or blame the world he chose the latter Kosta Nita rejected the life of a sculpture he began drifting through jobs and friendships as he sought out his destiny he finally got a jolt of confidence when he found someone who validated his ego in Nineteen fifty-five custom NATO was accompanying a friend who was delivering a couple of dresses to one of her mother's clients customer data thirty years sold the time met the packages recipient thirty four year old Margaret Runyon although she didn't initially make much of an impression on him Castenada Donde stunned Margaret Margaret Sense some indefinable mystical quality custom nita she wrote down her phone number and slid the paper into a book about the metaphysics of dreams which she gave him soon the couple began dating like many aspects of cost Anita's life life. It becomes difficult to save for sure exactly what happened from there. Margaret claimed that they were wed in Mexico in January nineteen sixty but but for most of customers life. He denied that he was ever married again. Custom gated deeply wanted to control his own narrative. Jeff and shaping the truth was one way that he asserted dominance married or not Margaret and Costin Ada explored the world of new age philosophy few together they had invigorating debates about great religious thinkers and figures the couple discussed the fact that Jesus and the Buddha never wrote down their own teachings teachings and that their disciples could have corrupted their messages but cost Anita's philosophical musings were accompanied with doses of manipulation and lies. He's Margaret often suspected the Kosta NATO was cheating on her and he'd played her suspicions claiming that different attractive young women had thrown on themselves at him on one occasion constantly told Margaret but a woman named sue childress was romantically obsessed with him fearful that she lose her husband. Margaret scoured phone books in search of the threatening woman when Kostunica's saw how troubled Margaret was he told his wife that childress childress didn't exist at all or at least she hadn't existed until Margaret had psychically manifested the competitor through her jealousy driven ribbon magical energies he concluded the revelation by explaining to Margaret that she was to blame for any infidelity he might engage in with another woman author. Preston need defines this kind of manipulation as gas lighting a form of psychological control in which an abuser lies as to make the abused doubt their own mental faculties people who engage and gas lighting do so to assert dominance of people they see as less Sir because they see control rather than connection Causton Yeah saw Margaret as the perfect partner she always seemed impressed by his philosophical optical musings and believed everything he told her he asserted his greatness to her and she reflected devotion back to him with Margaret Support Art. He began exploring other avenues to flutter himself he found that he was a good student and flourished at local colleges in Nineteen fifty-nine rain the thirty-three-year-old enrolled at Ucla to study archaeology and anthropology in his first semester. Castenada was instructed to conduct did interview with a native American and write a report on it for his archaeology class to complete the assignment he connected with an anonymous native individual and and interviewed him about Jemson Weed Smoking the paper earned an A. The project only whetted cost to nate his appetite to learn more about out native American hallucinogenic practices in the late nineteen fifties hippie culture was already flourishing in San Francisco and and other parts of California young people rejected the conservativism of the fifties by wearing ragged clothing refusing to work traditional jobs and and freely exploring their sexuality hippies also experimented with psychedelic drugs particularly cannabis and LSD liberal intellectuals published published books about drug use such as Aldous Huxley's pro mescaline doors of perception which Margaret Causton Eva Red with relish author and and psychologists Craig Malkin observed that individuals with a high overestimation of their own value are more inclined to dabble with drugs. These substances provide pleasure that the individual may not find in relationships with people they consider their lectures even a manipulator like cost Anita could find Kline pleasure and hallucinogenic use he read books by Aldous Huxley who claim that drugs could unlock unknown human potential after lifetime grappling appaling with low self esteem and self aggrandizement cost the NATO was intrigued by the idea that mushrooms acid and peyote could transform him. I'm into something greater than human and when it came time for cost a native to begin work on his thesis project he ventured into the desert to chase ace after Jaki peyote traditions the Yawkey were originally native to the Sonoran region of Mexico but after the violence of the Mexican civil war an an offshoot of the tribe immigrated to the relative safety of the American southwest as a South American immigrant Causton Yada saw personal connection in the away their culture blended their current American home with their roots that stretched south of the border in nineteen sixty thirty four year old CAUSTON Anita boarded a bus to Arizona with no clear idea of what he do upon his arrival the discoveries he'd make on this journey Ernie would catapulted him to fame and provide him with the means to manipulate and torture his first disciples next costume. Yada learns the true nature of the world and receives the acclaim. He believes that he deserves hi. It's been essay Greg and we have great news for all of our incredible cults listeners to thank Hugh for your unwavering dedication and support. We've released our entire back catalogue of shows and they're already in your feet that seventy four intriguing episodes of cults that that are available to listen to right now. Do you have a favorite from these episodes. I liked are terrifying look into the Manson family as well as our investigation into one of the most enigmatic organizations -tations in history and Todd Avai in the Church of Satan those are definitely great episodes. I enjoyed our deep dive into the disturbing beliefs of the branch Davidians and and are looking to the mass suicide by members of the UFO Cult Heaven's gate whether you're reliving some of your favorite episodes or hearing these fantastic stories for the first time the seventy four episodes are available right now plus. We'll still be releasing new episodes of cults every Tuesday get caught up on colts for free on spotify and and anywhere you listen to podcasts fame money obsession these things can and make athletes seem superhuman but what happens when those in professional sports reveal the darker side of their humanity every week the podcast original all sports criminals investigate some of the most significant sports crimes throughout the world. They'll explore the dramatic collision course of our most revered athletes and the underbelly of society you learn about these athletes rise through competitive sports and how the discipline and motivation that brought them to the top serve to push them into either downfall. Whether you're a rabid fan or a passive observer their stories carry significance for us all listen and subscribe to sports. It's criminals for free on spotify and anywhere you listen to podcasts or visit podcast dot com slash sports criminals to listen now now back to the story in nineteen sixty thirty four year old anthropoid student Carlos Castaneda wandered into the Arizona desert with a nebulous goal to learn Yawkey peyote traditions and achieve enlightenment when Castagna stepped off a bus in Nogales Arizona. He didn't have a specific destination sean and mind all he knew that he wanted to connect with something larger than himself something spiritual before he even left the bus stop. Kosten Yida met it old Yawkey man who introduced himself as Don Juan on while the old man waited for his boss. He explained that he was originally from Sonora Mexico but he'd lived in Arizona. Long enough to become an expert on the the local plant life within minutes of meeting customer asked him to teach him Yawkey Peyote Practices Don Juan refused he boarded his bus and rode away to destinations unknown but Kostunica was relentless. He learned on wants address and and pay the old man of visit at his home when he arrived. Don Juan remained resolute that he would not teach cost to NATO about peyote instead had he served him drinks and told him stories about his culture and his people's mythology because he traveled so far custody. Ada Spent the night at Don Juan's house the next morning when it was time to leave. Don Juan invited customers to return whenever he was available cost. Anita took the offer to heart for months the elder taunt Causton Yada his people stories and traditions they became close friends and Don and one soon shifted from telling stories to explaining his mystical philosophy. It was difficult for Costin Ada to understand the esoteric. Principles has gone want tot but he strove to understand them. Customer data was so caught up in his new spiritual journey. He began to neglect his wife Margaret. She didn't know why he was disappearing into the desert and he would never tell her in advance when he was going to leave frequently. She'd simply awake in the morning to see her husband was gone at some point in one thousand nine hundred sixty thirty eight year old Margaret Attempted to leave Kostunica according to her. She filed for divorce in Mexico. Although there was no record of this soon after the couple split up Margaret discovered that she who was pregnant according to Margaret the child was conceived after the separation and customer data was not the biological father but cost hoste Neda announced to her that the pregnancy was a sign that they should remain together. He also claimed that the divorce was invalid because he'd arranged an elaborate. Britt hoax to trick her into only believing sheet filed initially. Margaret didn't want to even consider cost Anita's arguments she was content is to have him out of her life forever but he began visiting her apartment regularly explaining that they were faded to be together by the the time. The baby was born custom. NATO was once more an active part of Margaret's life. Margaret also noticed the love and care that cost Anita showed showed for her son the baby delighted and cost Anita's presence as though they shared a spiritual bond when Causton Yada explained that he was the boy's real. You'll biological father through the power of magic. She believed him persuaded Margaret Reunited with her axe and so cost engages manipulations of Margaret continued Dr Margulis Feel Stod who specializes in family therapy with narcissistic and borderline individuals noted that successful manipulators succeed not only because their skilled at playing to others sympathies but because they're experts at identifying vulnerable people when Margaret Son was born in nineteen sixty one Carlos Castaneda insisted on being listed on the birth certificate as the father he relished the idea of having a child of his own and began to tell his friends that the baby really was his biological son of course this claim mm-hmm also gave customer data leverage over Margaret Anytime she began to have doubts about the relationship cost NATO would point to the child did did she really want her son to grow up without a father unable to argue with that logic. Margaret remain loyal but the birth of his wife son wasn't enough to deter cost Anita from his search for spiritual truths and he finally had a breakthrough on August August seventh nineteen sixty one a little over a year after he first met Don Juan by that point. Don Juan decided sided that Kostunica had demonstrated his devotion to his teachings so don Juan drove Kosten Yada to acquire a house in the middle of the desert and supplied him with a jar containing clumps of round Brown plant matter when cost Anita didn't recognize material. Don Juan explained that it was was peyote customer didn't even know where to start so don. Juan instructed him to chew the pieces. The student did as he he was told while he waited to feel the drug's effects Don. Juan walked customer outside so they could watch the stars is an drink. Tequila of course all we know about cost. Nita's drug induced visions comprom- his own. I'm first hand testimony and his veracity as a witness is dubious at best cost. Anita claimed that he saw the world around around him shift and change he felt as though he could see the entire landscape without needing to move his head or his eyes when he reached for a drink of water custom-made noted that the liquid seemed shiny and thick astonished by the visions cost. Anita wandered away from the hut and into the desert there a dog approached him the canine had black fur but was also translucent a great gleaming main like that of alliance encircled its neck somehow customer data understood that he was supposed to follow the dog so he let it lead him into a location that custody. Ada described as a sort of yellow warmth that came from some indefinite place. They're overcome with a sense of euphoria costume. Yada played with the pop once he sobered custody. Ada spoke with Don Juan about what he witnessed. Don Juan seemed especially stricken with the appearance of the black dog and told customer data that the being was named Mask Alito. Oh he was a powerful figure in yawkey mythology. Few people ever glimpsed Mescalero. Let alone played with him. In fact the dog's appearance could only mean one thing cost. Anita was chosen what and a great destiny lay before him. Don Juan soon revealed that he was a shaman or a magic practitioner for the Yawkey tribe he took us to Neda as a pupil bull lecturing and debating him on the true nature of reality to help Kostunica let go of his reliance on reason and Science Don Juan continued Tinubu supply cost to NATO with Peyote he also incorporated Hallucinogenic Jemson. We'd and mushrooms into his license. These practices probably probably served a sever cost Anita's already tenuous connection to reality. Each time customer took a hallucinogen. He learned something new about the true nature of reality he met wild animals and learned the wisdom of coyotes lizards and spirits. He glimpsed other worlds where the nature of reality itself could be bent or altered even humanity as a concept was ally cost. Anita Eighty learned a truly enlightened being became something greater than human and by truly accepting those teachings cost Anita proved himself to be an allocated superhuman creature psychologist. Art Markman noted that it's common for people to sometimes overestimate their own skills and abilities. He's but a small number of people will continually overestimate their influence on the world and their place in society especially when compared to other other people there unearned arrogance drives their behavior and colors every relationship they have in cost Anita's case his experience in the desert provided him with everything he thought he wanted don. Juan assured him that he was special was powerful better than everyone else all of cost Anita's earlier fantasies about his greatness were legitimized but what cost to NATO wanted wasn't the same thing as what he needed and is growing. LIGO led him to lose perspective. He became disconnected from reality for the next five years years. He continued to study in the desert with Don. Juan Don Juan taught many magic spells initiating Kostunica into the Sacred Order Abreu hosts or native American Mexican sorcerers while Don Juan Guided Kostunica through his traditions. The true instructor was mask. Ask Alito the mystical dog regularly appeared to cost Anita during his peyote trips pushing the student to connect with his shamanistic potential intial another teacher Don Juan's friend Don Hanaro joined the Instruction Kostunica eventually came to learn that Don Hanaro was also so in human. He was a powerful spirit together. Don Juan in Don Hanaro would regularly teleport Costin data to a high cliff in the desert and magically snap costume Neda up and down the cliff face like a Yo-yo one day in nineteen sixty five five years after his training earning began don Juan announced that Kosten Yada was ready for a test he couldn't advance any further in his training as a sorcerer without proving proving his faith. Don Juan teleported Kosten Yada to the top of a very high cliff much like the one he'd fallen. I'm from with Donna Naro many times then the source were ordered cost in Asia to jump custom needed knew that this test was different from his earlier leaps. Don Hanaro wasn't there to Yank. Him Back and Don Juan wouldn't protect him. It was up to custom Yada to save himself self from the fall and ordinary mortal may have felt fear of the trial but Kostunica was already beyond such human concerns with the deep breath. He sprinted forward throwing himself over the Ledge Carlos Carlos Customer Jada spread his arms and flew over the Golden Desert by passing the test he was finally of fully trained sorcerer in Don Juan's Yawkey tradition in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven the newly enlightened Shimada Carlos Kostunica typed up at thesis summarizing his experiences and turned it into his Ucla Archaeology Professor Clement. Men Men read the apiece but said that while it was beautifully written it had no place in academia he suggested the customer data publish it as a novel instead had the dismissal cut deeply cost Anita long to be taken seriously by the academic establishment and with a single conversation. The professor dashed his dreams cal state Los Angeles's Romney Vaseline noted that people who seek external validation from others crave recognition recognition and acceptance for every accomplishment they cannot accept rejection without great emotional distress however Kosta native found Solace Solace in his professors assurance that the writing was strong and engaging so with me and support custody Ada instead submitted the first third of of his lengthy manuscript to the University of California press cast a Nita's account included many details of his revelation the true nature of the subjective genitive World Don Juan's magic powers and his ability to shape shift into a crow when he submitted the manuscript he described it it as nonfiction surprisingly the University of California press accepted it. Perhaps they figured that cost. Anita was writing metaphorically Louis. Whatever their reasoning publishers at the University of California press fought that Kostunica's esoteric desert pilgrimage would resonate with the Hippie community. The University of California press was right custom. NASA's first book the teachings of Don Juan John which covered about the first third of his journey to spiritual awakening sold several thousand copies the book success only fed cost Anita's ego ago the seemed to believe his own stories and saw his impressive sales says validation. His self-deception only grew worse when international publisher publisher. Simon and Schuster bought the rights from there his book shot to the top of the bestseller charts in the US the teachings of Don Juan John was such a runaway success. Simon and Schuster encouraged custom data to produce more follow books with the remainder of his thesis taxed. He released a separate reality further conversations with Don Juan in nineteen seventy one and journey to east lawn in nineteen. The seventy two day were once again released as nonfiction in a matter of years Kosten. Yada was a massive success freethinking young people gravitated gravitated toward his philosophy eager for an alternative paradigm to traditional mainstream Western values as for the books non fiction status it was hotly debated in literary circles from the start some customers most devoted fans genuinely they believed that he'd unlocked the secrets of the universe and had magic powers the much more common consensus was that costumes discussion of magic magic and shape shifting were metaphors for his larger points about subjective experience and new age believes that didn't spare Costin. NASA's writings readings from controversy in his book. He claimed that he visited a particular waterfall with Don Juan. They're done once spoke of the waterfalls cultural importance and performed magic for Costacurta but that waterfall was nowhere near traditional Yawkey lands and was unlikely to play any role all in their culture in addition Kosta native recounted several so called traditional stories of the Yawkey people which other anthropologists recognized as coming from other unrelated tribes his descriptions of Yucky attitudes towards sex and monogamy were contradictory to findings in other anthropologists GIS studies in short. Many academics suspected that customer data so called Yawkey Guide and the subsequent divine revelation were were falsified but dude accustomed his popularity few were willing to publicly criticize him at the start of nineteen seventy-two new cost Anita began teaching courses at the University of California Irvine his class titled the -Nology of Shamanism was enrolled to capacity acidy and additional students regularly stood at the back of the room or sat on the floor to listen to his lectures. Kosta natives classes gave him the opportunity ready to regularly interact with his most devoted fans around this time he began to informally collect disciples who were particularly committed committed to his ideology. No one knew it yet but those students would be the first followers in Causton Yada. 's cult coming up next. Kostunica's lies are exposed and he responds by tightening his control troll on his followers. Now back to the story Carlos Custom NATO claimed that he studied under a Yawkey Lucky Shaman named Don Juan publishing his revelations in a bestselling book although his critics saw several logical inconsistencies in his memoir. Mr forty-seven-year-old Causton Yada still taught fully booked classes at UC Irvine there. He gathered his students and the disciples Kosta NASA's followers included several attractive young women and the source of our had multiple affairs for Years Custom Nita had found emotional support in his wife Margaret. He loved the way she respected him listened to him and learned from him he especially enjoyed the thrill that he felt when he lied to and manipulated her but as the years went on Margaret Group resistant to his manipulations meanwhile his female students is treated him with the same admiration Margaret once had when he determined that his wife couldn't meet his need for a submissive devotion he founded elsewhere for Margaret Cost. Engages Affairs. were a blessing in disguise. He disappear for weeks or months at a time to be with his lovers while he was gone. She could get a handle on the real world again. She came to understand that she couldn't live any longer as cost Anita's wife in nineteen seventy-three. They traveled to New York together. They fought viciously after which cost Jada talked of his plans to take her son on on a visit to South America with him. This was the last straw to ensure her safety and that of the Child Margaret filed for divorce the next day and she didn't tell Kosta Nato what she done. She just waited for him to see the legal paperwork for himself but to Margaret Surprise Causton. Yada didn't didn't immediately respond the forty seven year old had once more disappeared into the desert to resume his studies with Don Juan you although he'd already completed his first initiation into the sourcres world custody eight understood that he had to constantly be open open to learning. There's no record of the session only cost Anita's later reports. He claimed these studies allowed him to finally shed his last scraps of humanity humanity. He gained powers that he'd earlier only dreamed of at the conclusion of the new training Don. Juan explained that the most powerful brew host host could even escape death elevating themselves to a different unbounded form of course. He'd earlier claimed that no man escaped mortality. Tallahassee with customer data accepted the new teaching without question once he imparted his final lesson. Don Juan disappeared in a blinding ending bursts of magical fire. This was strangely convenient for cost Anita. Several academics had begun openly musing that Don Juan didn't exist with the broncos magical disappearance cost. Anita could now explain why Don Juan was nowhere to be found when Carlos customer data returned to California in late nineteen seventy three he claimed that he'd achieved a yet higher level of enlightenment and luckily he had plenty of new material for his fourth book with his new found power cost Anita announced to his fans and friends that his magic required seclusion didn't from the impure human world he also emphasized that a wizard could never be photographed or recorded although customer data had always disliked photography for the first time he taught that avoiding pictures was a spiritual requirement he bought a home in Westwood Los Angeles and banned the cameras and other recording equipment but he didn't tied away alone. He brought with him three of his most devoted students. All young women who were current or or former lovers he seem to need all the support and devotion he could get. It's hard to say for sure what exactly happened. During the years cost in Yada and his followers followers spent in seclusion many believe that this period marked the formation of the cult cost Anita severely restricted his followers just movements they rarely left their home and never gave statements to the Press Kostunica's firm ban on photography and recording equipment meant that there there were no records that their activities Causton Yada ordered each woman to release her old life and old connections they were required required to quit their jobs and break off contact with friends and family outside of Kostunica's control to symbolize her rebirth. Costa Mesa gave each woman a new name. Maryann Simko was dubbed Tisha Abattoir Kathleen polman received the name Carrollton Darrelle ticks finally Ray geena tall became fluorine donner grau widely considered cost Anita's favourite. He also also nicknamed her the Hummingbird. He claimed this was due to her tendency to throw them with potential costume. Neda referred to these women as switches and told them they had great magical power. He claimed that his harsh restrictions were only to ensure that they didn't dilute their spiritual essence social social psychologist and escaped former cult member. Alexandra Stein explained that often the ability to exert control over other people's lives is is the primary goal for cult leaders and others who run fringe organizations she wrote not all leaders want to get rich gained sexual favors. There's or grab political power but all want utter control over others customer data required as witches to dye their hair blond and cut it in the exact same short style like Costume Nita. They were forbidden from being photographed or corded. Wall Kosten Yada operated in the shadows. The public continued to flock to his writings his fourth book nineteen seventy four's tales of power for recounted his experiences in his most recent and final desert sojourn but psychologist. Richard de Mille wasn't so willing ailing to take Kostunica's claims face value he was a social anthropologist who earned a PhD in psychology from USC a rival school to cost Austin NATO's own ucla during his career demille grew increasingly critical of the growing trend in the nineteen sixties anthropology world to blend anthropology with transcendental or magical thinking he remained a staunch advocate for the scientific method and proper documentation tation that more and more anthropologists as shooed and no offender was worse than Carlos Cost Neda after years of digging beginning in fact checking Duma learn that the magical passages weren't the only factually inaccurate portions in constant natives books. I D- milk confirmed that customer data had lied about his birth date and home country. Demille also found that some of Don Juan's pithy teachings seemed seemed bit familiar in fact many passages and Kostunica's memoirs were flagrantly plagiarized from Cs Lewis and other anthropologists the mill began to list Castenada stolen quotes and their original sources that document soon grew to be forty seven pages as long in nineteen seventy six Richard Demille published a critique detailing the numerous lies and factual errors is in the teachings of Don Juan and cost Anita's other books dim alleged that Don Juan didn't even exist and cost Anita had never gone on into the desert at all saying Collis's adventures originated not in the Sonoran desert but in the library at Ucla initially the literary world was uncertain how to respond to these claims they had already accepted the books nonfiction status was dubious at best a few other investigators however followed up onto mills claims and found even more inconsistencies in costume. NASA's accounts most damning of all when an independent researchers examined the documented religious practices of the Yawkey people they found that they had no tradition of peyote smoking whatsoever cost Anita's harshest critics soon found supporters in the Yawkey and we sold communities CAUSTON data's fans had been swarming over Yawkey lands seeking spiritual truths and disrupting private native communities when some of those fans had learned that the Yawkey keep people had no peyote culture they turn their attention to the nearby peyote using which all hippies stripped fields of mushrooms and other plants the native people used for medicine or traditional ceremonies at least one we shall man was killed by white spiritual seeker anthropology organizations and major news outlets published their own exposes on Castenada and his lies. The press indicted indited not only customer data but all of the intellectual elites who'd allowed themselves to buy into his claims without properly fact checking them as Yale Anthropologist William K Kelly explained. I doubt you'll find an anthropologist of my generation who regards Kosten Yada as anything but a clever lever con man perhaps too many his scam is an amusing footnote to the gullibility of naive scholars although to me it remains a disturbing an unforgivable forgivable breach of ethics as his followers turned on him. Carlos customer data never issued any kind of public denial privately however he complained to his followers that the press was lying about him although she'd left him his ex wife Margaret remained in contact with Causton Johny Ada. He wind to her that critic simply misunderstood the spiritual principles he tried to establish he tried to teach the world that reality was subjective breath and the world turned around and held him to its so called objective stature. It's the whole narrative was unfair to him by this point. Margaret had wriggled out from under custody thumb enough to see through his lies. She knew that Don Juan and his magical teachings weren't real but during her conversations with customer data she was astonished to learn that he spoke as though these teachings were true he becomes such such a good liar customer data had even convinced himself his self imposed seclusion only became more severe as did his his control over the dozen or so fans who continued to study under him and although Kostunica's book sales took a sharp dip he still managed to sell a few thousand copies every year his career was far from over but he'd still been humbled and Kost Anita was desperate to reclaim his reputation and his claim in the early nineteen nineties after more than a decade out of the public like I customize issued a new revelation dictating what he and the witches should do with their powers they were to help ordinary humans to rise above their limitations with the witches custom gated developed a spiritual movement program called ten segue ten segregate referred to a series of holy motions stretches that were designed to strengthen and I'm channel Psychic Energy. It also incidentally could only be taught during in person workshop sessions custody. Ada sold tickets at over one thousand dollars a piece cost. Anita was careful to emphasize that ten segregate was completely distinct from Tai Chi and yoga although they a bore many similarities when asked to describe what makes ten segregate unique customer said to compare ten segregated with Yoga or title is not possible in Nineteen ninety-three sixty seven year old Carlos Costa Neda began secretly giving ten segregated workshops. He didn't advertise them publicly but allowed word of mouth to spread the news through the new age community in in spite of his public shaming custom gators reputation in hippie circles was still stellar and ten segregate seemed like something new and exciting his events soon began to sell out. This was exactly the response cost. Anita longed for in order to manage the money and offset personal liability in nineteen ninety-five he founded a company called clear green which he owned ran with switches at workshops customer. Hustle Neda made careful note of his attendees who was a repeat customer who responded most strongly to his criticism and feedback and who seemed named most spiritually open those that cost anita determined were the most susceptible to his teachings were invited to study at his compound along with him and the witches and a few of his most devoted followers or even granted the opportunity to live with him under his increasingly controlling leadership cost. Anita's followers were promised that they could learn to be shamans and brew. Ho's all they had to do in return was grand. CASTENADA complete control over every aspect of their lives for some of this also Mantica would choose aw how they died next week we'll discuss the rise and fall of ten secretary and the tragic and that befell Castenada and his witches thanks thanks again for tuning into colts will be back with part two on ten segue next Tuesday for more information on ten segregation and Carlos Custody Ada amongst the many sources we used found the salon piece the dark legacy of Carlos Castaneda and customers the teachings of Don Juan on extremely helpful to our research. 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Byte The Art Of Cinematic Sound

Sci-Fi Talk

02:37 min | 7 months ago

Byte The Art Of Cinematic Sound

"Hi welcome to season two of bite. This is tony tiller parenting an apocalypse. It's it's not the same way that you you know how it works. Any views usually two to four minutes long but sometimes they can be a little longer. Only when you when you live long enough. All kinds of strange things happen very right in saying that the greek heroes the original superheroes in part because of the hopeful nature of genes vision but also because of its message of diversity and inclusion making waves. The art of cinematic sound is documentary. That showcases those talented men and women that create sound for film. It could be any kind of sound effect you here. It's usually created for that film. Here is director midge. Causton glad that you did a film on an area that's really overlooked so sounds like a labor of love. How did this all come together. Well i was so hollywood sound editor for many years. But i'm kind of born again one because i started out a picture i was at film school. I didn't understand. I thought sound was all technical and then it came out and i realized oh you can do so much with like reflecting character Given motion just even like an ambiance can change on somebody feels about place or person and also like what is our dog sound like. What is your house. sound like. What outside of their house sound like this so many things to do so i became so passionate about town and then they started to Then i was asked to teach i love teaching and i went back to teaching and Because i really wanted to give them a leg up students so they wouldn't be in the dark like i was feeling like oh sounds so scary. I would have panic attacks. So it's so great that You know to have this and that now have in film form and that people can see it and tribeca took it took it on and then and then we find out we're going to can won't had what was the process like to get some of these legends. Like i know. I knew gary i know i was in. The industry had new people. Also why the it was their sound and they respect them so much did the film and that's how it got promoted to the the big people i got through Through the sound people. How and you know. It's like more by heart because they really care about and they did it for their sound paul. Congratulations for bite. This is tony talada.

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EU Imposes Sanctions Over Libya Arms Embargo

Newscast - Africa

01:37 min | 9 months ago

EU Imposes Sanctions Over Libya Arms Embargo

"The affiliate podcast shares, the stories of multifaceted Africans, one episode at a time, the podcast aims to uncover the untold stories of modern and millennial applicants based in various parts of the world. Each episode gives listeners an opportunity to learn and experience conversations that showcase who they are and global perspectives in our ever changing world fish also listen and subscribe to the Athlete podcast on spotify or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. You can also follow at athletes podcast on all social media platforms. All listening to the news office our on Africa Business Radio. The European Union has imposed sanctions on three companies for violating the UN arms embargo on Libya a meeting of foreign ministers and Brazil's resolved that the sanctions imposed include an asset freeze for the three companies. Individuals were also sanctioned for human rights abuses in Libya. The statement said, the new lessons showed e used to teach us. Off The sanctions regime and ability to react the development on the ground in support of the political process and to the past and present perpetrators. fa-father violators the ESPN news agency reported three companies off from ticky Causton and Jordan respectively, and that was the niece at this time. When Africa Business Radio, you can continue to listen live online at www dot, Africa business radio, DOT COM or. I'm -able APP. I am Rachel chih-jen do thank you for listening.

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April 23: A process of un-elimination

As It Happens from CBC Radio

48:51 min | 2 months ago

April 23: A process of un-elimination

"Hi i'm josh. Block host of uncover escaping nexium from. Cbc podcasts. I pull back the curtain on the secret of self help group that experts call a cult and follow one woman's heroic journey to get out. The podcast was featured in rolling stone magazine and named one of the best podcasts of two thousand and eighteen in the atlantic. Listen to uncover escaping nexium on. Cbc listen or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a cbc podcast. Hello i'm needs to excel. And i'm chris bowden. This is as it happens. The podcast edition tonight. A process of unim- nation. The supreme court of canada recognizes the indigenous rights of the nation. Even though the canadian government had declared that nation extinct with breathtaking speed in india where covid nineteen is spreading like wildfire healthcare workers are comparing hospitals to war zones and themselves too poorly armed soldiers giving it their best shot yet. The lead investigator behind a breakthrough. Malaria vaccine tells us he's hopeful it could end up saving the lives of countless children in sub saharan africa. Because them as he sees them in an american. Baseball announcer is lucky. He saw one ball in particular because he didn't just save himself from injury. He made an amazing catch as well. Get your kicks on fruit. Sixty six and then move onto the dozens of other astonishing artworks created by a london woman who's thrown us all a series of curves by drawing on bananas breath and without a moment for spares over a lifetime of bowling. John hinkle senior. Never hit three hundred and now in a moving tribute. His son has bowled a perfect game using a ball filled with his late father's ashes as it happens. The friday edition radio that suggests the ball and the player inside it had something in common. Both were impressively bold. The supreme court of canada has ruled that the snakes nation exists and that its members have rights on canadian land. The reason that's remarkable. Is that the snakes. Reservation is in washington state and the canadian government had declared the nation under canadian law but in two thousand ten the snakes leadership sent one of their members to kill an elk in their traditional territory in southeastern british columbia. The hunter was rick day. So tell mr days. Hotel was charged for violating canadian conservation law which began the case. That led to today's precedent setting decision from the top court. We reached rick day. So tell and rodney causton. The chairman of the confederated tribes of the colville reservation and the snakes confederacy on the reservation in washington state. Mr desert I'll start with you because this started with you in twenty ten when you took down and elk here in canada then called up conservation authorities to make sure you would be charged. So what is it like today. i'm feeling great and there was. There was a number of where. I was cited for hunting in canada as a nonresident in nineteen without a license that was just the middle one to two thousand candidacy decided to take me to court on so good feeling for you chairman. Causton what is it like to hear from a court in ottawa. they your nation is is not extinct. You know it's hard to describe. I think we always do that. Were here that we were not extinct. it has been a long road and i also wanted to recognize that we are not the only i we know that there's about three thousand nyc. The sentence on the reservation today but Because of those legal and political history many of the people in canada also exists in Are enrolled on other reserve in canada. But today is it was totally awesome and indescribable. I are traditional homelands. Where in canada as well as in the northern part of washington state that i came all the way down to kettle falls which was one of our ancient fishing side. We gathered there at six o'clock this morning. Many of our members have opened the day with those with prayers and songs and until we waited to hear the decision when our attorney did call us and gave us that it was a positive decision and it was just a huge elation from everyone there well what the ruling means. This snakes will be able to exercise once again. Their rights on traditional lands on the side on the canadian side of the border. So what specifically will that mean for people in your community. And i can. I can ask this of both of you. Well you know for us. I think that our people can now go back up into our ancestral homeland. And have that respect that our people exist and that that we have that identity and like i said even though we may never felt that we were extinct. It's really important to us that the canadian government and at that high level of court you know had recognized now and change their determination that we are no longer think we'd do exist that we can build that future with our future generations. Have that strong identity. So they can go back to those places. Where are people once existed before. They were forcibly removed from our traditional homeland. Rick what is it going to be like for you to go. Hunting up the columbia columbia river and into canada. The next time you can go oh hunting in my ancestral territory up there even on the lower half down here on the reservation Hunting were my father. I know hunting up in the lynx creek hall creek and stuff. I have to With the passing of his information on to me about different hunting areas and stuff like that there for me to come back up into the area and my great great great ancestors one hundred distance metrics to walk in there footsteps a hunting there i slip through the country to my eyes and see what they saw and two part of that hunting. Earn what you call it but Thing that comes along with hunting and i wanna found word for it yet but It's so moving. How how you describe the importance of it and chairman. I want to point out a quote for our listeners that you put in the statement you released today because it's quite powerful you wrote. Dispossession is not over and it is not history. Can you elaborate on that listeners. Yes you know. There's still a lot of work at be done. You know our people were dispossessed in. You know they're still the international border that separates us legally and politically. So there's a lot of work to do going forward and you know there's so much unknown to us as a tribe as well and also working with many of our relatives. Like i said in canada and i know we're going to still probably encounter many obstacles not only from the united states but maybe even from canada as well as we do move forward but this is a huge first step for us to be able to regain our recognition. And you know. I can't tell you how much i appreciate that of the legislation of reconciliation in canada. And i think this is very evident that the supreme court to uphold this decision recognizing our people and also It allows us opens that door for us to work together to build better relations and to really address many of the injustices and historical wrong. That happened to many of our people. What would you say to canadians. Who maybe are still trying to wrap their minds around the idea that for the first time now. The members of a us based first nation have rights to use your traditional lands. North of the border right. You know we're gonna you know that borders would meaningless to our ancestors that was not our border. Our people the trumpet the ancestral homelands. This extended down into northern washington up into british columbia and so these lands historically have always been our traditional homeland and for us. I really hope to make it. We want to be a good neighbor. We want to make this positive as possible for everybody. You know we have is a tribe a lot of experience you know with our state and federal relationship and we also have Many of our own scientists and others on board. I think that we can really do a lot of really good work together but for us. This has always been our homeland. My father. his father was Okinawan but he's mother was an ice and he always used to tell us when we were growing up. We're from canada. You know. I guess if you wanna think of that way but we were. You know. Played here on in united states. You know going back up there myself. I remember my aunts and other telling me that this country is gonna know your that through your ancestors. And that's the way. I felt going back into those those places i felt like. You know after you've been on the road and traveling for a long time and you finally get home and how you feel at home. That's the way. I felt being back up in that country being home again being comfortable again and being you know knowing that this is where you know my grant some of these places. My grandmother used to talk about and so a although you may look at us as being united states citizens or canadian oil. That wasn't our border. It's seven people and it's severed our families and it's excited for us to be reunited again and having that for us to be able to go back to the land where our elders ancestors where they came from chairman. Causton mr desert. Tell thank you so much for this conversation. You're very well. Thank you very much for reaching out. Rick diesel tell as a member of the snakes nation and rodney cost and is the chairman of the snakes confederacy. We reach them on the colville reservation in washington state. A new vaccine could be an extremely valuable new weapon in the fight against malaria to researchers from burkina faso and the team behind the oxford astrazeneca kovachev announced that a malaria vaccine has seventy seven percent efficacy in early trials. That is leaps and bounds ahead of previous vaccines for malaria. A disease that mostly kills children and although it still needs more testing researchers are optimistic. How do tinto is a professor in parasitology at the clinical research unit of neuro in the lead investigator on the vaccine trials. We reached him. In ouagadougou. burkina faso professor. Tinto efficacy rate has been elusive for malaria. Vaccine for so long. What was it like for you to see this result it's Really amazing because we have been working in the field of vaccine for many years now and if you go back five years you Vaccine where we have got to fifty six percent of if he gets it over one year and for specifically our our so we have got forty percent off so These seventy seven percent of because he is a Incredible very very high. If we know that more than one hundred axiom trusted to over world and this is the first time we were able to release so high level of after more than a hundred of these kinds of vaccines have been tested. We're now at this point. What specifically does seventy-seven percent efficacy mean for. Those of us. Who aren't scientists are a. it means that if you of vaccinate hundred kids You can have malaria in seventy seven keats so to give you a sample figure of what does it mean what happened with the children who were in this trial. Aren't the children out of find because they try to steal ongoing We follow them for one year from which we reports are desires to. You'll you'll see it today about still continuing the flopper for these kids are one action on air that will end in july twenty twenty one understood how many children were in this initial trial We recruited into our for fifty students of four hundred fifty. They were divided into three groups. One group perceived a higher dose of the vaccine The second group received the lord of the vaccine and they detect group was controlled. Where we we didn't give the vaccine so at the end when you follow dated three groups at the end you compare the two groups where we admits that the vaccine we against the group where did not receive the vaccine. And it's from these companies that we get at this Efficacy liberal were there. Any worrisome side effects professor Yeah we we saw some side effect but What nasty we didn't report any serious adverse events left to the vaccine because like abbott seen. We've any boxing you can. You can get fever Some some Some some some clinical signs or symptoms related to axon but the most important is to not report a And the good news. This seen is that we didn't report any atavistic. And that is relative to the vaccine. Certainly not not deadly like malaria. Just give people a sense Who may not know how severe it is. How deadly is malaria in your country. But also in sub saharan africa's hall thanks to the investment made by the government and international partners. These last years. We clearly see that the decrees in tim format mortality by an fortunately the clinical case still high of for instance in bukidnon fossil web. I'm living last year. We reported over ten million of malik's photo population of twenty million inhabitants. Ten million out of twenty million in which she's still very very high and we We hope that this vaccine we'd work because we are currently working in his two and the plan is to move on in phase three from next month and for this phase three will go across four countries in addition to bouquet. You'll have money kenya. And tanzania why we have to do that simply because as you may know meta epidemiology is not the same across africa in bukina democrat is seasonal somalia accumulate during the season when as in some parts of africa. You have over there. Or they're so pitting out so he sent them to see how the vaccine will work In in these countries where Is different from patina. And we think that's we hope that in these three will confirm the a nicer to have got indefens- to and of course if we are able to confirm that this will be to make a big impact and make a big difference we we we have seen so far. Impact for thousands of children potentially yup. Yeah of course of us. You know the time we're in right now the pandemic the emergency approval for covid nineteen vaccines as you watched that unfold. It was necessary certainly. But do you feel that. There should be the same level of urgency for this malaria. Vaccine as well I i would. I would say. I would say no simply because with the covid we do not have any treatments and if you get the covid you had not like you die for malaria forty. We have good treatments but of course we need if vaccine because so far the vaccine is the only tool that wherever orig- to educate the And in the world and if you know the impact of mother in young children we absolutely need a matter of but we cannot arash we have to take the time to go through appropriately phase three trial Because it's a disease. The disease is quick. Nineteen so four. Hundred thousand deaths are so here correct. Yeah this is unfortunate and That deserve our demobilization. We have seen with the covid nineteen and we hope that day into international committee and found us. We'll put a morris to really move on very fast to propose to our children altruism very a cool marrow vaccine to coming yes professor. Tim thank you so much for your time. We'll certainly be watching to see how phase two continues and as face three unfolds. Thank you thank you very much. Tinto is the lead investigator on the new malaria vaccine. We reached him in. Ouagadougou burkina faso when an ahoy needs go completes and other of her breathtaking works of art. She posts it for an appreciative and growing audience on instagram. Then she reflects on where that particular artwork fits in her thematically aesthetically. Then she probably eats it. I guess or puts it in a smoothie during the pandemic ms who needs has taken up drawing not on paper though she creates surprisingly rich sometimes cartoony sometimes photo realistic art on bananas. We reached needs in london. So anna how did you become a banana artist. Well something. I definitely didn't plan on becoming It all started at the beginning of the first phase of the lockdown. Much twenty twenty I was sick actually with suspect corona virus. So i was trying to be very conscientious about staying in my bedroom. You know self-isolation and then for week one. I was pretty sick. So i was just in bed trying to get better and then for the second week i was feeling much better but i had to stay in my bedroom so i was beginning to go a little bit. Stir crazy and the result was but none. So i was. I took a quick search through your grid. And i think the october nana pacman butterfly are just a couple of my favorites. But what other kinds of things have you. Have you drawn these bananas. It's been quite a range. So i take inspiration from different things sometimes. It might be a social kohl's that's important to me So for example. I've done several bananas in a celebration or to show support for a dominate. The opium i used to live in ethiopia. So it's causing it to my heart which will A big infrastructure project that can lift people out of poverty. Or i've done bananas in the past to show support for health workers who are supporting us through the pandemic and for the scientists who discovered the vaccine. I tend to celebrate different cultural festivals. Happening around the world. It might also be something that happened to me that day that feels like in worth capturing or somebody His inspired me. Or i'll do like a birthday banana for a family member so it really varies. I said draw but we have to make sure people know that you say the banana is no ink his us. So what exactly. Are you doing to these bananas. How does it work yes. I don't use any incumbent panel paint or anything. It's purely by bruising. Appeal of the banana. So i use a seam ripper but you can use any blunt point to do this. Just press into the peel. The banana quite lightly. And then it gradually gets dhaka's so like the the mach that i make by doing that over time becomes darker daca until it almost becomes black after few hours so by using timing e- can create different gradients of shading. So i don't like Press hot it's creates a jockey liner anything. It's all done in timing so you start with the parts that you want to be the dacas first and then you you wait for that to get doctrine than you do. The the slightly lighter pots next and then all the way back to To the lightest. Bits that you want at the end. Are you sketching them. Out on paper i or is it. Free straight onto the banana. These days. I've been doing chris single day. Yeah it's now being Almost four hundred bananas. Because i've been doing this for over year. So i feel like the stage. It just has to go straight onto the banana. Are you sick of eating bananas though. Because as i understand. You're eating the bananas that you that you make your art on. Yeah no actually i mean. I think people have the idea that i'm chugging bananas by the side closed. Actually i have one a day or even one every two days. Because sometimes i'll do to images on on either side of the on. So it's it's pretty manageable. Or i'll get my housemates eat one every now and then but this has turned into something a lot bigger. Not just that you and i are speaking. But it's connecting you to your community in a different way. Yeah it's Definitely built into something much bigger than i had imagined in a way. That's been really beautiful very positive for me quite early on in the process when it started to gather a bit more attention. I thought maybe there's an opportunity to do some good with us. So i started to raise money for a charity. Here in the uk called fish which distributes food to people in need and in particularly at the beginning of the pandemic big needful and they're also focusing on Reduction of food waste. So i i raise some money by challenging myself to do it but on every day. Obviously i didn't realize at that point that i'd be continuing over a year later but otherwise i've been running workshops for different charities I did one recently. That was about winning or supporting. Elderly people in east london in the uk where i'm based so community members who were isolated and suffering from loneliness and enduring some banana breezing workshops with them and it was really about like socializing and finding espace to chat but also to build creativity and and mindfulness. And it's quite therapeutic and calming as well so it's connected me to in different ways that's been really wonderful. So you're going potassium human connection and a creative outlet. It sounds like a win win win. Do you think you'll do four hundred more. Are you doing along these going on for. Yeah we'll see it's hard to say at this stage. But i'm interested in exploring where else it can go Soon i'll be launching a website. And i'm going to be doing a limited edition of posters and that's a new venture for me And i think the nice thing about this being an online is that i can kind of gain a lot of international connection and exciting for me to be on. Cbc tonight. because i i used to live in ontario and able to being able to connect Canadians through. This is a real joy because canada has a very special place in my. Oh that's lovely. That's lovely to hear. We're glad we could chat as well any tips for someone who may want to start making their own art in terms of you know. What's the perfect banana to to start with when they're shopping. Oh good good. Good questions is very implicit. I mean the first thing is is tried to get a banana with quite a wide face or that you have more surface area to work on. Try and get one. That doesn't already have too many bruises because otherwise You've got to try and connect those somehow into your image which can be tricky. And then the riper the banana the kind of software and so it goes dark a bit more quickly which can what really well for some images if you're trying to like create almost a blended Shape or if you go for harder banana that can help with more intricate designs where you want like a really fine line to be focused. The bunch of bananas in my In my kitchen is looking a lot more interesting. Now thank you so much. And i'm so glad we could get me. Thank you so much for having me to care. Thank you anna. Who needs has been creating. Bruce banana are during the pandemic posting her creations to social media. We've linked to some of those photos on our website. Cbc dot ca slash. Ah and if you decide to attempt to your own banana art you can share images with us on twitter at cbc as it happens this week nc double a baseball listed. It's plays of the week on twitter. And jeff paxton made the cut. Mr heston is not a college baseball player. He's a play by play baseball announcer for texas tech. Who made a seriously impressive catch. He was calling. The red raiders game against west virginia university. When suddenly a ball was heading straight at him. Here's what that moment sounded like veg coming right back out. They there were plenty tip. My hand hurts so bad right now. Man you on my hero would play. Hank's saying goes one lucky. Fan just cut a souvenir that was texas baseball announcer. Jeff paxton catching a foul ball barehanded in the booth. That's our sound of the day. Epoch town i'm am speaking to you at a moment of grave crisis i'm jeff turner and this is recall. It's a series about history not the ancient past history. That still hot to the touch. In this first season i explore a revolutionary political movement that brought a modern democracy to the brink. You can find recall how to start a revolution on the cbc. Listen app or wherever you get your podcast in one. Nine hundred ninety five. A college student disappeared on a trip across. The usa. Reported him missing right away but they went. Take it so. His mother started investigating the case file. I started going through and people that wasn't interviewed. I joined this mother. Search for justice or you recording us i am. Someone knows something season six available now. Hospitals in india are running out of beds and running out of oxygen a deadly second wave of covid nineteen aggressively sweeping through india. Yesterday and today the country recorded the world's highest daily infection count to date more than three hundred thousand new cases both days. Meanwhile hospitals are being flooded with critically. Ill patients healthcare. Workers have compared scenes there to a war zone. Dr srinath reddy is the president of the public health foundation india. We reached him on the outskirts of new delhi. Dr ready paint a picture for us if you can. What is it like for covid patients in india's hospitals right now. It's terrible at the moment. The southern states are doing quite well that coping quake well because they've always had strong a health systems but the states in northern india but clearly daily and the surrounding region would produce for example. They're all having a terrible time. And maharashtra has been one of the worst states and that and gujarat also having a retarded time if we were to walk into one. What would we see in many of these places. That is a great rush for beds which are not available in the hospital but clearly intensive care beds but even getting a hospital. Admission is becoming extremely difficult. And unfortunately this has been compounded by shortage of oxygen and particularly in delhi and that's created a crisis and now the emergency mentions being taken to ensure that axiom states reaches delhi and the government of india is even ordered twenty-three oxygen generation plants to be ed lifted from germany for the emphasis hospitals in india. And i'm for hospitals now are also opening up for non military personnel for treatment. And so a lot of efforts are going in to try and correct toxin supply situation but at the moment there is a quite a challenge. There many people have those suffering the consequences of not getting admitted not getting the right kind of treatment. people are sleeping outside the hospitals. I've heard yes. People are desperately trying to get admission. Hospital facilities are being opened up. Temporary facilities are being opened up in. Deadliest will which were organiz last year but they were all closed in january under the impression that the pandemic had completely abated issue of oxygen. One member of parliament tweeted out. A plea will die just like fish. Die in the absence of water. How is it that hospitals don't have enough oxygen tanks. The someplace iran shot partly because they never expected so many patients to wedding oxygen and the place from the other states which would have been generating oxygen producing it. And then you should. He would have been transporting to other states. This started retaining thinking that they're coming into pressure themselves. A deli for example was dependent on oxygen supply from other states and when they shut off the transport of dead bodies daily started suffering intensely but now the central government stepped in in working the disaster management act and said that all interstate transport will be unhindered and will be protected. You know the pandemic has been serious and severe for quite some time now. So how did india get to this point. Unfortunately in january there was a sense of false comfort because from september end onwards the case on a daily case. Count basis the daily debts. As well as the test. Positivity rates all started declining and by january reached a very low point each one of them and then the feeling game not only that the first wave had ended but the pandemic had completely passed in bite for the second wave they were all kinds of estimates made that herd immunity had arrived in india would not actually see the pandemic again that led the public to feel that they could go out with the full flow of normal life so the complete of caution and allowing super spreader events large gatherings strategic place. But the for political reasons of religious reasons and the emergence of variants in different parts of the country now had a highway but their passage little bit all vaccines though. India has been producing. Why are those helping well actually engaged was purchasing vaccines and it just taught that the production would be adequate in a relatively graded manner because the second we've was not supported so essential workers where i vaccinated starting with the health workers then going to other essential workers and then people are sixtee- than people abo- forty-five with health conditions than all people have forty forty-five so all this with sequenced thinking that there was no rush in order to protect everybody at once because It just talked that we are not going to have a second bill again. and that's why. India started exporting to eighty countries. But then with the surge that has happened now that the sense of urgency that we need to vaccinate and and therefore firstly exports have been stopped now. We are beginning to import some of the axes which have been approved by flooding regulators white stepping up the domestic production of those vaccines which have already been approved in india plus also being produced in india under licence and actually ramp at last count. India has close to sixteen million confirmed infections. What is the way forward for india. Here how how does india overcome this to the video grim situation. It's a challenge but obviously the soldiers since very clear everybody has to wear musk when moving out of the house and ensure that they are protected against any potential transmission but not participating any cloudy rent indoor or outdoor it is also important that the administration to everywhere in india and shorts that super spreader events with large gatherings do not take place third we must try and provide home gear and efficient manner because eighty percent of the people do not need speculation and now did the rushed to hospitals. Because nobody's sure what will happen to them if they stay back home. And finally we need to speed up vaccination efforts if we do all of this fall things properly then we'll be able to tide over though we have actually landed ourselves in the crisis. Throw complaints after ready. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you dr. Srinath reddy is the president of the public health foundation of india. We reached him on the outskirts of new delhi. You can find more on this story on our web. Page at cbc dot ca aih yesterday. Canada announced that it was banning direct passenger flights from india and pakistan for thirty days but mike saws wife is in india right now. She left their home in edmonton two weeks ago and in an interview with the cbc. This morning mr saw explained why his wife had to take the trip. She lost her father. back in february and then a couple of weeks after she. Her mom was diagnosed with Something very terminal so she had to go to see her ailing mother. She couldn't see her father. But this was a crept. She needed to take. What was your reaction. When you found out the government's thirty day ban on flights from india and pakistan. Honestly mark. I was i was shocked. I knew it's come in but you know when you face it right in your face then it starts to hit you. That means my kids than me. We'll be. I don't know as of now with the thirty day ban. Just be you know without kerr for extended period of time. I have a five year old. Who hasn't been without his mom for that long so that can be challenging and then me on a fulltime job and juggling the other fronts as well you know wearing many hats gives me a bit of exciting and of course You know concern about my wife back there. Like house gonna pan out for her All that situation right the the number star just Spiraling no cool. And meanwhile she's dealing with your mom with a terminal illness. It's you know there's lots of things going on there for absolutely and that's that's really That's kinda hard even with her mom getting the right treatment which she should be getting but they're trying to do the best with all the resources they have but right now the all hospitals and health facilities have been kind of overwhelmed with just go away and everything else being super stretched in all fronts now originally rumours she supposed to come home and then how are you trying to juggle that She is supposed to be here like second week of may now. We're just trying to figure out like we're waiting for the next updates to happen so that we can you know. Make sure if we do a re booking that's You know we don't have to book again and then at this point what. I'm trying to avoid as her coming to europe because that would be an extra layer of exposure a and then she would need to take another kobe. Test rate so yeah that's That's a lot of things. I in the big question. Mark there by was. Mike saw speaking with marquan Host of badminton. Am today. think all his life. John ingle senior tried to bowl a perfect game but it was only in death that he finally managed to pull it off john senior died in two thousand sixteen the illinois man son john junior recently filled a bowling ball with his beloved father's ashes and it was with that ball that earlier this month john junior landed a perfect three hundred game. We reached john henkel junior peoria illinois. John do you think your dad deserves some credit for this perfect bowling game. You scored. I would say so. He's the one that got me and my twin brother into bowling. Look for years old. So he's the one that you know with. My mom would take his bowling every weekend. Growing up watching them bowl the beach. It's like our parents. Obviously when you realized you you actually scored three hundred points with that bowling ball filled with your late father's ashes. What was that moment like. So i had you know clarity. Three hundred so this one was you know. Want you to your first one. Your nerves calmed down but this one This was a little harder about the seventh eighth frame. I was getting really emotional Trying brother was talking to me trying to keep my mind off stuff off the bowling and About the eleventh frame of because it's twelve strikes. You know it's perfect game eleventh frame. I i mean it was hard given focus on throwing because i tears in my eyes already in that last ball i through the twelve ball. I could not tell you where it went through it. I mean i was just so much emotion going on. But once i saw it hit i kind went down to the ground and it was It was definitely emotional night. And if you watch you watch the video. The personnel hugs. Me is my twin brother on so it was amazing that you know he was there and we shared together. You felt your dad with He was my dad was definitely there. 'cause like i said there is. There's probably one or two strikes that i was like. Oh that's not going to strike and somehow a good guiding at all. Maybe he was he was president. He was definitely there with me and my brother. Where did the idea come from to put your dad's ashes in a bowling ball so why debt passed away in two thousand sixteen and I was in charge of a lot of my dad's stuff. So i wanted to give my my brothers some ashes and I was talking with my brother one day and i said do leg lifts. I'm going to get a bowling ball. Like and just try to get dads ashes in in debt will always be there with his dad. Grew up watching us and it was hard to keep bowling without our parents. There is my mom passed away in two thousand fourteen. So we i was like joe like i'm doing it. I gotta find somebody to do it for me. And i talked to a couple of people and they were like they didn't know if they could do it and they didn't want to ruin anything so they wouldn't do it. And then one of my childhood friends. opened up a pro shop in washington illinois and She said let's try. And i said i don't care wives abobo like i have to try. Let's try to make this work. So we got a small capsule and we have my dad's ashes and we dropped it in kind of sealed it So as to that bowler The new rule as of last year as you cannot have a bum hole. So i had a ball that had a thumb hole so i had to get it filled anyway. So that's how that's how it came across using that ball for. There's no holes in this ball. There's too so in bullying. You know us through youtube fingers and a thumb will to fingers throw two handed. So it's illegal to have a thumb on your ball anymore if you throw it just two fingers so i get the thump hall filled in and so you put the ashes inside a capsule and then you put that inside the hole where your thumb would normally go right correct. How close did your dad get to the perfect score. It was something that nagged at him all the time. I think my dad was you know humble with everything. I mean he. He both thirty five forty years in We talked about it. A few times. his high gangs and i watched a couple of star games in two nine eight to ninety nine and he never to get over the hump and As a bowler bowl to and you're mostly your first games that you issue high scores will be two thousand nine because there's so much nerves and excitement going on like you might not get that last strike so you know he always had the two thousand nine hundred ninety eight and he just never could get the perfect game and i wanted to do that form and it happened. You did it. You didn't for both of us. We should tell people you you went on to become a pro. You're not an amateur your two-time time. Ncaa champion how did your dad feel about your success. He's he's been me since day one and he was never afraid to tell people about me. He was always the debt that nonstop talk about his his children. He loved very much. What do you remember about those days that you mentioned that you would go all the time. The whole family crew bowling. I remember get in trouble that the bowling alleys me and my brother you know. I don't want to say with the annoying kids. But you know when you live in a bowling alley and you know you're always there you know we gotta find something to half fun so we got in trouble a few times by no just running around lots of places to to be mischievous in a bowling alley when you're little right. Lots of places to get up to found some crazy places to hire. Yes definitely what do you think your dad would have said about this idea of yours to take him with. You would walk in the first one down there. He would definitely be the first one and he said that's my boy. I mean that's something he always said to me. You'd always hug me as my boy and Yeah do you think you're going to keep bowling with this ball. So there's a big tournament that's every may after the bullying season has called the tournament of champions and it's actually it's all the first place teams throughout the surrounding area of pure illinois. So it's a eighty four team tournament like march madness and it's a monthlong tournament actually the last tournament golden with my dad. So i think. I'm gonna use it for the tournament of champions and then yes at the end of may i will retire the ball down. Thank you so much for sharing your dad's the story with us and congratulations. I appreciate it. Thank you john. Hinkle is a two-time. Ncwa bowling champion. He recently used a bowling ball containing his dad's ashes to bowl a perfect game. We reached him in peoria illinois There's a long history in hip hop of artists. Adopting aliases and aka as to showcase their range but when it came to creating and maintaining persona shock g was in a league of his own. The west coast rapper and front man for digital underground has died. He was fifty seven in the early nineties. Digital underground records were a must have for any dj looking to rock a party. Fans loves chachi smooth delivery but they also loved humpty hump who's nasal voice and goofy lyrics complimented chachi perfectly and when the group's music videos dropped rumors started going around at the two rappers might be the same person it wasn't much of a disguise humpty hump like shock g wearing a fake nose and glasses and humphries backstory was pretty fishy. It claimed edward ellington humphrey. The third former lead singer of smooth. Eddie and the hump irs became a rapper after burning his nose in a deep fryer but schalke's contributions to hip hop were very real. His group helped introduce the world to a little known. Artists named to pox occur. And when songs like the humpty dance. Do you like came on. No one cared. Which persona was on the mike. You've been listening to the as it happens. Podcast show can be heard monday to friday on. Cbc radio one following the world at six you can also listen to the show on the web at cbc dot ca slash a. h. thanks for listening. I'm nico and i'm chris. How for more. Cbc podcasts go to cbc dot ca slash podcasts.

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Your Note Taking is Weak E511

Topgold Audio Clips

05:11 min | 1 year ago

Your Note Taking is Weak E511

"I. It's Bernie Goldbach. The American in Clonmel tipperary Ireland. Gold audio clip. I'm on Lemur. Speaker. I? Don't audio Mo.. Hashtag conclave of people talking about stuff. They WanNA, talk about my slip box. In German. It's pronounced, dental CAUSTON. And the sociology sociologist, Nicklaus lumine who wrote seventeen books and five hundred articles. Had this. Wooden cabinet. With nine thousand notes in it. Can you imagine? It looks like a card catalogue to me. If you're old enough to know what a card catalogue is. Then you'd recognize that'll custom and its original environment. lumine would read things. Take notes about those things. And then put them on note cards index. Cards record cards. It's like now. I listen to things and rethinks. I take notes using Trello. Share links to Trello for example. Then I. Review Them, and then I write about them, but I fall over because my writing phase of this is week because. Because consuming too much information I'm reading too much or listening to too much. I've got decades of mole skin journals. Pages of information written. Ideas scattered in different boxes. Some my attic, some of my garage. I some digital notes as well as the digital wonder normally coming from. The, handwritten ones. Know digital stuff can be mind the data. Mining is a lot easier. As you probably also would agree. If you hear something that's interesting to see something. That's compelling. Read something. That's useful. It's because you can see the context of it. You can see how it can be reimagined in and used and the context of what you see. It is the relationship that you make. What you hear with what you consume, what your view! In the case of audio myself in a student using air. Table, To record the Yale's of all the audio. Clips And annotating the name of the author title of the Clip and a some of the idea. Quick Summation And Air Temple will give us a really quick searchable contextual. Alignment. Of A lot of topics for example, the black lives matter concept bubbled up. In audio and really quick when you see presented nature, tml friendly table of information how the context how the idea? mm-hmm. Transverse transported across time zones, genders and nationalities. I also use a system called read wise listens to my Insta-, paper medium tweets. Kindle books. where, I've highlighted certain things was picking up. Context cues contextual cues. What highlighted? I'm also Diving into Rome research on new tickers. workflow friend. But. It alone won't help me. Right unless I have the discipline to actually read the contextual relationship, and then view the the beautiful visualization. Of how these things connect together for you Paul, Amani. A man who's hot on hyperlink are hot on tax. That'll costume. Rome research. Read Wise? Pinball, these are all. These are all systems that take the concept of Hashtag so much higher contextual. So off I go out actually. What I'd recommend before you leave is look at the link. Though leave I'm putting in the show notes. It goes to me's video about settled costume. And you can see the visually what the heck I'm talking about. And hopefully. You'll see coming through your twitter. Stream or news feeds more. Than I've written. Because this summer I gotTA. Make that a routine. You gotTA, stop. Consuming so much. Curate, mound contents. Before I die. I'm sitting on so much of it, and it's not nicely packaged as ninety thousand cards in the wooden cabinet. Of Nicholas, Luma. Bernie. Top, golden good social networks. Thanks for listening to my topcoat audio clip. Audio bye for now.

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Generation lockdown

Correspondents Report

06:35 min | 2 years ago

Generation lockdown

"In the United States have video of a schoolgirl training adults on how to respond to a mass shooting as become an unexpected hit, racking up fifty million views the video was put together by two young straits who moved to New York a couple of years ago they were shocked at the normalization of school shootings. So they decided to weigh into the debate and Northop our North American correspondent Zoe Daniel has the story. Welcome to foods to Melinda today. We're going to be learning what to do in the event of an active shooter. It's a quantum after nine somewhere in America and a group of unsuspecting employee's again for a training session, we're going to bring in a special gosh. She's actually an expert on this. And she is going to be leading our team building events. Oh. A gasps from the group reflect this shock when eleven-year-old Caliente is the room to lead the listen. There is an active share you'd all be dead. When you talk out the shoe can tell where you are, and where you're hiding. Sometimes we play the game who can stay quiet is the longest. So we all, remember, you could hear a pin drop as Kylie drools the staff on what to do. If a gunman enters the workplace, you're going to try and protect her friends by pushing the tables and chairs against the doors. You also have to put a piece of paper over the door window, so they can't see in you can't cry the ad was my pro Bono. As part of the student-led much for our lives campaign that began after the deadly Han school shooting in parkland Florida last year. It was released exclusively on social media a couple of weeks ago so far. It's head about fifty million views and rising home Causton. I'm Alex and where the creators of the campaign generation looked down cost in Yorkshire and Alex little moved to New York for millburn about eighteen months. Ago to work at the McCann at agencies. They were immediately shocked by the normalization of gun violence school, shootings and the active shooter drills that children experience at school. We came across a tweet from a mum somewhere in America. And she was describing the moment kid came home from school, and this kid was excited because today he'd land had a survive an active shooter, forty two states mandate safety drills in schools. Research shows that millions of students participating lockdown drills h year, it was a drill at their own office that triggered the idea for the Ed. We're actually at work, and we had our own fire drill taking through the steps involved in a fire, and obviously an active shooter as well. We kind of said to ourselves what if a kid was running this thing, pulling the ad together? Wasn't easy somewhat places. Feared retribution from the pro gun lobby it took a year to make it happen. I think we had about four. Forty fifty knows before we gotta, yes. From a workplace. And then once we got that we needed to find L student, and she did a very quick kind of addition in the middle of a supermarket in the middle of an I'll send it to us. And we knew straight away, how special she was because although there was no set up there's no hidden cameras. The words she was saying with song credibly, powerful. Yes. Stand on the twin. See encouraged down. So they can't see your feet and they can't see your head. So they don't know that you're in the Eto trainees would warned so this shock and surprise was captured in the video, which was coincidentally released about the time that to mass shootings took place one on a university campus in North Carolina. The other at a school in Colorado gunfire erupted just before two pm Tuesday. Information on shooting officers responded, within minutes, both still students killed as they tried to protect the classmates this young boy told CNN how he sheltered in a cupboard with a baseball bat while the shooter was outside. I had my hand on the metal baseball bat. Just in case. I was going to go down fighting if I was going to go down. You were going to go down fighting with a baseball bat Nate. And again, how old are you? I'm twelve and I'm twelve. Twelve the timing may have helped video to go viral. There wasn't a lot of kind of gift wrapping packaging around this, this commercial, if you'd even call it that it's what kids in America at school. And it's putting it in an interesting environment, which is an adult situation. I listen for things that can help the police for temple. If you hear a lot of banks, like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang? The shooter might be down the hall or if you louder ones like. He could be right outside your door. If the shooter comes in the room screaming won't do anything you have to try and fight back. Interesting. When you come into the country, you see everything for the first time with fresh us, so things other people take for granted and consider normal. You're quite shocked by and his lots of areas and culture without occurs. But this was one way cost tonight had to kind of pull up and Sakon. What and we were asking colleagues, you like is this really what you learn? And we're talking to principals and teachers and kids in the more found out about this thing, the more minds would blow on about the insanity of it. That children go to school and lend about that time, stables and maths at the same time had a survive guy with a gun. I had a teacher used to sing a song to make it easy to remember. Log down DEM lead, Saul hide. Look, though, doors in stay inside crowd, John down. Don't make assailed and don't cry. Or you'll be found at the end of the session the adults stood speechless, and Kylie also stood silent before answering the questions. What a report Zoe Daniel in New York.

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The Four Remembrances (2019-03-27)

Tara Brach

50:43 min | 2 years ago

The Four Remembrances (2019-03-27)

"Greetings. We offer these podcasts freely and your support really makes a difference to make a donation, please. Visit tar Brock dot com. Mistake in welcome. When I was in college, many, many, many many decades ago, I read the series of books that were written by Carlos Causton yada about the shaman Don Juan, and I know many of you have are familiar with them and had many takeaways, but perhaps the most memorable was built into this little quote right here. The shaman Don Juan teaching how can anyone feel so important? We know that death is stocking us the thing to do when your patient is to turn to your left and ask advice from your death and immense amount of pettiness dropped if your death makes a gesture to or if you catch a glimpse of it are few just have the feeling that your companion. Is there watching you and Mentz amount of pettiness is dropped if your death makes a gesture to you. So this notion of death as an adviser is one that really actually goes through many, many spiritual traditions. It's the wisdom of permanence. And when we open to remembering the truth that the slices life is a flash it's coming ongoing, our perspective shifts in a very dramatic, and usually very very wholesome way. All pettiness false away. And I was reminded of this recently. I was Jonathan lower having dinner with a couple and one and one of them the man said that he asks himself most days how would today different if I asked advice for my dad? What would I remember what would be important today just use that as one of his daily practices, and I think it's a really powerful one. If we say, well, how would the rest of this day, if we really were paying attention to the reality that this life is coming and going, and we don't know when. So typically, we don't remember to tap into that wisdom, we get into what I often call that that daily transfer. Our concerns are way way narrow way small some years ago. I saw this cartoon, and it's got a graveyard and the bubble that you're reading is coming up from under the ground. And it says, hey, I think I finally decide what to do with my life. This is the caption. Ed pushes the late bloomer envelope. Took citing new level. Remembering what matters. So it's an all wisdom traditions. But I know that since since college, and it's deepened from in growing up that the more that I am intimately radically sensing. Okay. This body mind is here now, and it's going really the more. I open to love there's a there's a direct correlation to remember in death and opening to love, and it came clear in a certain way when I was at a bitter taste retreat with tick, not HAMAs, and I went with a very dear friend, and we had both been quite busy in our lives. And we're thrilled that we're going to be able to take off a weekend and go to this retreat that was only a few hours away in Virginia. And it was a love. Live retreat, and at the end of it, take not HANA, everybody get into pairs. So I, but it up with my friend Louisa who's happens to be a teacher in our community here. And he said, okay now, what the first thing to do is to bowel and say NAMA, stay NAMA stays means. I see the the divine or the later the sacred in you. So we did that then he said hug each other. So we're hugging each other. And he said now on the first breath as you're breathing reflect on going to die. I'm gonna die in the second breath. You're gonna die. And then on the third, and we have just these precious moments together. So we did that then we looked at each other. And there was a level of presence and intimacy and love that was so fresh. It was so fresh. It was not an idea about loving. There were no barriers there. It was just in the face of. Hey, we've got these moments. The the loving that was always there just manifest in its full flesh. So love and presence in death. And I don't think of it at all as grim into the slightest are at all as you know, morose, it's it's really. The whole spiritual path is one of remembering and forgetting you've probably noticed that. We we get inspired. We get in touch with something. We quiet down. We sent some wonders and beauty or some tenderness. Oh, yeah. This is why I do this stuff. And then we get small minded, and we get Graham, and we get petty and all that stuff. And there's forgetting and one of the great tricks is to learn not to blame yourself for forgetting because it just it just happens. It happens to all of us. So what I'd like to reflect on together in this class. Are what are for very our tipple and beautiful pathways to remembering given the tendency to go into trance had these are ways to really let death being adviser and to really wake up to our life. And I thought what I do is begin with roomy because roomy sets us up quite well. Okay. So in one of his poems roomy describes three fish in a lake. And what is describing how they respond when a fisherman comes to the leg to with the net, and what they want dinner. And so what they do is the intelligent fish right away says I know my true home and immediately resolves, I'm going to the ocean. I'm not staying here. It's like why stay in a little lake when you know, you belong in an ocean, and you're going to die. So the other two rather than following them. Unwisely choose to stay in the lake stay comfortable stay where we are. Staying are familiar patterns? So now, I'm going to read Rumi who says that a lot more eloquently than me. What can I do to save myself from these men and their net asked the second described as half intelligent, perhaps if I pretend to be already dead, he bobbed up and down helpless within arm's reach of the fishermen look at this the best and biggest fishes dead. One of the men lifted him by the tail spat on him and threw him on the ground. He rolled over and over and slid secretly near the water and then back in meanwhile, the third fish, the dumb one was agitatedly jumping around trying to escape with his agility cleverness the net, of course, finally closed around him, and as you lay in the terrible frying pan bed. He thought if I get out of this on never live again in the limits of lake next time the ocean, I'll make the infinite my home. I'll make the infinite my home. So this is our situation as with these fish are mortal forms will die and if we don't find true refuge. If we don't recognize some sense of something formless, something larger deeper more filled with awareness and love than our day to day. Mine state. We will suffer through it that staying in the lake or staying in our small-mindedness, and we do it in different ways. We can see ourselves playing out as the fish did. Sometimes we're like the dumbest fish that's trying to escape with Jillette cleverness to outwit death than we we do it in all sorts of ways and endlessly trying to manage our life, and worry and arranged things and proof ourselves and get approval. And and that all reinforces the prison of the small mortal self are else. We do it like the other fish that kind of plays dead. We leave ourselves. We don't live true to ourselves. And we try to meet other people's expectation. We dumber selves down by numbing ourselves out in some ways. In other words, we played dead to our true nature. So the freedom. That's modeled by by the first fish is the freedom of remembering who we are. Really not stopping short of sensing the the mystery that's really living through us. And that's when we call my talk about true refuge, that's true refuge. So if we're suffering in daily life were playing out the two other fish and often the first part of waking up is just seeing our transparence and seeing how we do it and the big signs that we feel separate and the other size. We don't feel at home with ourselves when we're living in a smaller, small minded place were typically not at home in our bodies or just not awake and inhabiting at home in these life forms, and we're not at home in our hearts. We're not connected with our hearts, and we're typically at odds with others. And in the deepest way we don't like ourselves. Those are the signs of living in the lake or we're kind of at odds often, we can be in conflict and a number of places and think others are wrong. But we start catching the common denominator is more. You know, in some way. Little story of a man driving home from work and have been a tough daynuss wife calls him on the cellphone. She's struck. She heard on the radio that someone's driving the wrong way on the capitol beltway, heck, he replies. There's hundreds of them doing that. So this is a sign of trance. We're not at home where at odds. So we're going to explore the four remembrances whatever our version whichever way we're playing out the fish that are kind of hanging out in the lake. We're gonna talk about four remembrances that can wake us out that can remind us of our true refuge, and on the just to start right off what they are the first refuge the first way that we remember is to pause, and it really can become a practice where you're in the midst of stuff, and you go. Yeah. That's right. Pause. I call the sacred art of pausing the second one saying yes to what's here. And those of you listening live just did some practice with that in our meditation tonight saying yes to what's here. The third is turned towards love and the fourth is rest in awareness. We're gonna do them one by one the first pause directly de conditions a fundamental piece of the trance, which is I'm on my way somewhere. When we're in our daily trance, we think we're kind of tumbling forward towards something. It's rare. There's a sense of oh here just these moments. We're usually have in our mind map of time. And there's like a vector, and we're and back. There's where we were. And we're on our way. Does this make sense the transit time and on our way? Okay. So part of what keeps moving us is that we're reacting to things we're trying to get away from what's on pleasant, and we're trying to move towards what is more pleasant. And so there's a kind of unwillingness to simply be right in the moment. We feel like we need to be on our way somewhere else. In this little part. Tune here there to bears talking and they've got strong up in a tree this guy that looks pretty pathetic. And here's what they're saying. To each other. His name's Bradshaw. He says he understands I came from a single parent Dan with inadequate role models. He senses that my dysfunctional behavior. Shame based and code abandoning urges me to let my inner cub. He'll I say we eat them. So women reactive, and we were on our way, we're not in a place in that kind of pause where we can actually listen to what's going on. We can't take in them for mation really in a deep way. It's very much part of our cyber brain. Now that were so busy skimming the surface on our way to the next piece of information that we don't absorb deeply miss been more and more research on how deeply we take in things. We don't have as much capacity to pay attention. Pausing doesn't come easily. And yet think of the word understanding you have to stand under you have to be here for life. Pausing is really the the gateway to being intimate with anything that's going on. And some speaking you might scan today. And I wonder as you scan if you just think of today was there any conscious pausing? One great composer said when he was told he was a genius said in in terms of the music erode he says, not the music or the notes it's the pauses between. That's where the magic is. Everything we cherish. We have to arrive here for and yet. We're usually on our way. In. This story from tattoos on the heart. This is. Beautiful book on a bike artery boil and in one story, he tells he describes a doing Matt doing masses at probation camps on Saturday mornings and all of his stories about working with gangs and in Los Angeles. And he did a beautiful job creating businesses for those in the gangs, and so on and he's deep relationship with with those in the hood. And he tells the story about one morning, he's he's got a real lineup whereas doing mass in the morning, and then he's got an afternoon of baptisms and weddings. And so on. And he is just has a few moments where he's going into his office to get his mail. And so on he's not there for fifteen minutes when this woman in our thirties walks in the door, and he's checks clock realizes he's got very little time before the baptism, and is lamenting that he's not going to get all male. He says has her name's Carmen. She's recognizable figure on first street, sir. I visit though to his to this place where he has his businesses called homeboy, sir. She's a heroin addict a game and Bor a street person and occasional prostitute. And she's often defiantly storming down the street usually shouting at someone. So he says he's got seven minutes until the baptism and she she walks in. And she says I need help she launches right in brash and somewhat of a notion sister, oh, she says I've been to like fifty rehabs I'm known all over nationwide. She smiles her eyes wander around my office. And she studies all the photographs hanging there. She multitask, and earn spectrum of the place doesn't derail her stream of consciousness rambling. The family will be arriving for the baptism now. In five minutes. I went to Catholic school all my life. Fact, I graduated from high school even fact right after graduation when I started to use heroin Kerman under some kind of trance at this point in her speech slows the Liberte and halting, and I have been trying to stop since the moment I began then I watch as Carmen tells her head back until it meets the wall. She stares at the. The ceiling and in an instant her is become these two palms water rising to meet their edges swollen banks spilling over then for first time. Really? She looks at me and straightens. I am a disgrace. Suddenly her shame meets mind for when Carmen walk through the door. I had mistaken her for an interruption. Whenever I share that it that story really goes deep into me because I can think of all the times in my life when with somebody and on some level, I'm trying to get onto the next thing. And. The sadness at not really showing up the habit of being on our way and relegating people into this hole of oh, you know, you're you're before this. And after that that kind of feeling. It's sad. And yet, it's one of the universal ways that we are in our contemporary society in a trance, and I very often I share about the study, I think one of the brilliant. Most brilliant studies done in social sciences, the good Samaritan study, which I know many of you know, just to bring it into the atmosphere. The the setup was this that the cement seminarians at Princeton were given a practice sermon and half were signed the story of the good Samaritan half were assigned random bible story. And the seminary ans were supposed to go to another building the sermon and then be evaluated on it. Okay. So they're they have these stores are supposed to go to another building and do that. But on their way between the buildings. There's a person who's been actually placed there in a doorway was moaning in distress. So the questions. For the study is will the seminarian stop to help. And you know, we'll doesn't make a difference at some of them are about to give the good Samaritan sermon. K, and what actually happened was it was determined by how much time they thought they had before they had to give their sermon if they believe they'd be late. They didn't stop to help. And it didn't matter which sermon they were giving. That's think about that. Here. You are Summoner in intriguing for the seminary in about to give a sermon on the good Samaritan, and you don't stop to help somebody 'cause you're going to be laid and giving your sermon. And yet, this is the way we're designed in our transit is this is my, you know, the self-importance that Carlos cost yada talks about I'm important. I'm on my way somewhere. Check check check off the list and everything else becomes a background. As one person said, I think it was John Lim Lennon life is what's happening while you're on your way somewhere else. So our first practice together is just take a moment to explore pausing. And I invite you to close your eyes. And you might bring to mind a situation that comes up very regularly that you know, you rush through might be something that comes up with yourself or with others. You know, you're speeding around. Maybe with children. Partner at work. Someplace where you might want to experiment. Pausing and pausing can be for five seconds. Pause is simply a way to reconnect with yourself in your life. Choosing a situation where you think you'd benefit from portion. Lars to imagine it bring it close in visually. Sue where you are. The setting the Ramiro end who else might be there. Set your intention sons that your intention as depaz even if it's short. Posses away to come back home again. To begin to reconnect with the real dimensions of who we are beyond living in that trance of being in that lake. Frantically cleverly trying to get by reconnecting with our real being. Imagine situation. Imagine yourself pausing. Arriving breathing. Remembering your intention, remembering what matters and then going on to the next thing. A little more present. With more heart more awareness. Taking a few full brass. That's remembrance pathway number one. Pausing second one is saying yes. You might remember the story of the wise. Sage people bring their great troubles and they travel long distance to see him. And he would I make them sit and meditate. And then he say one question for you not question as what are you unwilling to feel? Most of us when we're stressed. Get very very busy pushing away the vulnerability that's inside s where we're bicycling away from the present moment and from the discomfort and the more stress, we are typically the more we're saying, no to the moment, and in some form of reactivity and the way we resist the moment. Will we judge others? We judge ourselves. We obsessed. We worry we numb our selves. These are ways we say, no. So a very basic part of coming back home again is sometimes described as developing equanimity or this window of tolerance where we actually tolerate the uncomfortableness of presence, the fuelling of older ability or quickey nece unsettled Nassar inbetween this where we not just paused actually say, yes the life. That's right here. Our motivation is that an till we learned to contact the life of the moment, we can't actually feel fully alive. We're always somewhere leaning forward were not balanced or not open. We can't feel a real sense of loving. We don't have access to all of our being. So for me. I started meditating when I was in college. And I remember one of the places that I was most aware where I was saying no was that. I'd be doing work in the evening, and it was nearly impossible for me to be writing papers or doing work and not also eating, and I just I just find myself. It's like I would swear the next morning when I wake up I wasn't going to do it again 'cause I'd feel wretched. But every night I'd start working I'd go, and I'd get whatever it was. I was into eating at that point. It was more on the sweet side. You know is week. Sweet would spike me because I was feeling dull. But then I really crashed. It was bad. You know, so. So meditation was starting to teach meditation teaches us to Amarger window of tolerance, meditation, basically says come back and be with what's here. So I was getting used to saying yes to was here, and I start that's what I targeted was could I sit there and really want to not feel what I was feeling and in some way say yes, some way say, okay. These feelings belong here. They're part of their waves in my ocean. They're gonna come and go, and it's okay. And at first it would be like I could extend for maybe five minutes. And then then I would go to refrigerator. And I would even know I was going to refrigerator until I was back with big bowl of something, but gradually enlarged. So I could wait longer and the urge would come and it would go, and so some days I just didn't get anything in that started increasing until I started feeling. A lot more like my evenings were creative and healthy. And then I started extending it to other things in my life. But that was a really really big one because food was an issue through college for me. And that was the place. I was most addictive we do it though in all sorts of domains that we're not aware of where something uncomfortable in us has us leave. We do it in relationships when we're uncomfortable with other people we over talk are else when we're uncomfortable. We freeze out are we might present. Just the self. We think's going to get the approval we want another words how we are. With each other is the way we think we need to be to have them feel certain thing towards us. That's because we're just uncomfortable. Just being who we are most of us have fears that the who I. I am is not good enough to be loved. So that vulnerability makes it hard to just be natural. We put on something. Does this make sense? What I'm saying right now. Okay. So it's an amazing training to begin to say, okay, rather than say, no, and do those exit strategies, I'm gonna just go ahead and feel uncomfortable. And yet when we do, and we learned to stay we start finding a presence. It's there that's actually quite creative and alive. Example, I'm remembering as as I was writing this talk that I thought I'd share was of a man in his father's father got older, the always had different political views, but it became really really distant as father was far more conservative than he was. And there's a lot of conflict and tension in the relationship because in a way is father would go with outrageous things, and he news being a little outrageous. But this guy could not resist. He was just went for the bait. Every time, it's got more and more entrenched. So this man decided he was going to explore what it's like to have his father make statements that he thought were really out there, and actually, you know, indicated misinformation and harm and so on. But he was going to let his because it didn't help to argue that wasn't certainly he wasn't like waking father up to Trues. It was just an argument. So so he decided to practice saying yes to his discomfort. So father would do something and somewhere in a make okay. This feels really yucky. You know, our -able, and yes, just let it be here. And it was a bit of a game. So he actually started doing it in a very concerted way it through his father off balance because you know, he had nobody to push against and eventually is father seemed to get bored with goading and because he just didn't really react back. And but what he was finding in. That presence was that he started to see his father a few different things. He would see that as his father's insecurity that as it got older got more ridge. Because he was anxious about as aging and as relevance, and he just got tighter. But he also was just in that space city arrived in he also helped it helped him. Remember, what he admired about us father who had always been utterly dedicated to his family, and who was very smart business guy, and it was a fabulous photographer. And so on. So he was able to rather than talking about politics. He could in a way respond to his father in areas that made us father feel better about himself. I share the story because when we start saying yes to what's in the moment, we start accessing a whole lot, more, choices and creativity. Gives us a lot more freedom. And when it comes to the really big deep challenging situations. Where death is an adviser learning to say, yes to the moment gives us our life in the moment, and here are share friend in our in this community here. And this probably was about fifteen years ago found out she had cancer that metastasized and she didn't ever long to live. And and she and I were very close. And she was telling me, we would meet and talk every week in those last few months, how her relationship with her body and mind was changing. And she said most of my old ways of trying to make myself feel better and thoughts about a better future useless, and so are and fact any thought about the future just calls up fear grief. And of course, memories are squandering little time have left those roll her old ways of saying no to reality. Think about the future go into memory. So she said this here right now is all that matters leading this be all that it is when I do that. I get to fully be here. I remember the day. She said that because she said, this is all I've got this. And she looked and smiled, and it was like she transported me into this timeless place of love. In the moment of saying, yes, we become like that fish that said, the infinite is my home. No keeps us organized around a small south. Yes, opens us to the formless. It opens us to presence and the formless. So it's practice a little with. Yes right now. Okay. As you. Let yourself arrive right here. You might bring to mind some situation going on in your life where you know, you get reactive. And not something that's traumatic. But something where you get annoyed anxious. When you have it in mind. Magin that you could go right to the. Part of that situation where you get triggered. And freeze the frame and sense. What's the worst part of it? What's really triggering you? Your frayed of what you're not liking. Just sent you could make that you turn. And just bring your tension within yourself, and that you can choose to pause and say yes to what's going on inside. You just whatever the feelings are just letting them be there. It's like you're saying, okay. This is the reality of what is coming up in me right now. I don't have to react. I can just be with this. You're saying yes and breathing with whatever's going on in your belly your throat your chest. Bring some kindness to the ash. Again, it's like these are waves in your ocean. And then you can let them be here. It's okay. And you might sense how just by saying. Yes. And letting what's here be here. You can sense that situation, and perhaps there's some choices on how else you might respond that might better serve you and others. Saying yes is the beginning of deepening presence and reconnecting with more of our intelligence and our heart. So this far we've explored remembering by pausing member by saying, yes, the third remembrances turn towards love when we're stressed when we're in a trance when we're living in the lake. We are in what's often negativity bias were fixated on what's wrong, and we're forgetting the presence of love we're forgetting love. So one of the key remembrances is there is a way to feel connection in this life, and we can start to find it at any moment. I love this cartoon where you have to women having tea together coffee and one of them has a child on a step ladder with goggles, and a blow torch, these blow torching into the wall. The words I need love and one mother saying to the other. He's just doing that to get attention. So we know from attachment psychology that cicis the whole evolution of the human psyche that what a newborn or infant most needs is good attachment. We know that that that's what allows the Norani's to make all their connections and healthy development and good relationships with others. And we're on a spectrum of how how well we were met by our parents, but it makes all the difference. One story describes in the first week of life. The set of twins who are each in their incubators they're born prematurely. I wasn't expected to live and the hospital nurse when against the hospital rules and place the babies in one incubator, and when they were placed together, the healthier of the two through an arm over her sister in an enduring embrace, and whatever we make of this. The smaller baby's heart rate stabilized, and our temperature rose to normal. There are countless stories. I I have many many stories of infants and how nurturing is what made it possible for them to live. It's essential. So there are many ways that when we explore turning towards love. There are many many ways. And each one of us needs to experiment. What is the easiest are quickest or most most nourishing way for you to remember love sometimes we can offer Lovin or sometimes we can call on. And and imagine ourselves being loved by others. Sometimes we extend love somebody sent me this card. It's got a chicken saying get well soon and open it up. If I can open it up. Let's see. Okay. Get well soon, and then the chicken sang, and no matter what don't let anyone tell you soup will help. To get my little vegan things in here on there. I know from my shelf, even just remembering myself. Oh, please. Can I be kind? You know, just be a little kinder. Just even the words. Even when I'm not fuelling kind words myself just the idea of kindness, something softens, so just to get a taste again. I invite you to closure is. What we've been doing is. I've been inviting you to scan. I'm bring up situations where you know, you're in trance when you're either rushing or it's your triggered. And again, just to invite you to bring deminers a difficult situation where you're having a hard time right now something in your life where you feel like you're having a hard time. When you bring it to mind just knows how you've been relating. Have you been on has been the mentality of trying to solve the problem and try to fix things? Have you been hard on yourself or hard on somebody else? And in these moments, just in a simple way sense the place in you. That's having a hard time. The part of you that either overwhelmed. Afraid or heard. Confused, whatever it is. And just in these moments have the intention towards kindness. You might as we often do put your hand on your heart. And just sense that you're sending care. Some well wishing now be happy. Man, be free from fear. Mad touch piece. I feel okay. And let your sincerity. Really, be communicated. If it helps just to imagine kindness comment from someone you trust letting that move through your hand to your heart. Notice how even just a few moments of intending towards kindness. Can shift the quality of presence. That's here. This again is coming home more to the truth. The for you are leaving the lake. And inhabiting the ocean of your being that formless tender presidents. So as we've done thus far, these are the we've explored the three of the remembrances pausing saying yes to what's here turning towards love the last of the remembrances just arrest in awareness censure being this and most moments like the two struggling fish where we're not resting in are being where the problem solver were the ones trying to get things done, that's navigating difficulty. And if you look at your life a lot of moments were trying to figure something out we're protein life like there is really trouble that needs to be dealt with. And what's interesting. And here's where the seduction is. There's a lot of levels we can control things, and they're the levels that are rather small where we can decide what we want to wear. Where we can decide maybe what we're gonna. We're gonna do this piece of work versus that piece of work. And we can in some ways decide what we're going to say to people and so on but the big thing like agent like sickness like death like everybody else's behavior. Like, the weather like our own emotional weather. We can't control. And so when we begin to wake up to that again, this is again, the wisdom of impermanent the wisdom of the fact that we can't control this. There is a sense of that that identity of the door begins to calm down. And there's a little more capacity. To rest in being. You might ask yourself right in this moment, if there's no problem to solve them. What is here? You might close your eyes and ask yourself that. If there's no problem to solve right now, truly no problem to solve them. What is here? We let death Dan advisor. We can sense is really nothing. I had that we have to solve. And doesn't have to be just big deaths. It could be just sensing these moments are flowing by weaken rash. Some this flow will continue for a moment just exploring this resting in awareness. You might sense. What's around you the sound sensations? The movement of the breath. The sensing in the background this alert inner stillness. That's always here. Relaxing back. The habit is to reconfigure and get busy and think we're on our way somewhere. But when we start noticing that more and more. We can ask ourselves we can inquire. Well, if there's no problem to solve. What's here? When death makes the slightest gesture all pettiness falls away. The heart mind opens the ocean is my home. Keep your eyes closed and just sense into sin, this fleeting life. If we. Value b. Remember life is what's happening when we're on our way somewhere else thinking about something else. But if we want to dedicate ourselves to remember, even this moment, you can pause again. You can say yes to what's right here. You can turn towards love. And then you can just rest and the the love and the awareness that your true home. We close with a shared prayer. May death being advisor may the wisdom of impermanent. Help us remember to live this moment this day from loving presence. May we all awake and deuce hearts and minds may all beings everywhere. Be free. I'm a stay think you fear attention. For more talks meditations and to learn about my schedule or join my Email list, please. Visit Tara Brock dot com.

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Say one of the best of the best lines of somebody arriving in a film. And it's a bit when he arose when he arrived in avengers assemble and he says i'm lucky and i am burdened with glorious. Say i've ever say to mrs in it. So that took about loki now. Because i remember coming back because my mrs gets very nervous about when anything happens like with the kneeling and what people are going to say. She no one's gonna she no. I'm going to say something and she feels nervous about what's going to come back. You know when you do say what you say list. I remember when i came back from doing the doing the game. The other day to romania game. Because we're talking about it before because speech him my my wife says she's a white lady and like so she's she's worried about what comes back now is so i remember when i came back to us. We got to a was dolon. I mean right and i am burdened with north figures. Is that kind of killed. It kind of took the energy out of anxious it. Don't worry grab a little bit of a little bit disappointed you say i'm am riot burdened with glorious accessories figures. I love the character of lok is love the face god of mischief love. Yes they could not have cost obama right. There were football. It's like got actually say who's who football in locate. Because if you think about low keys outcry is like is he a villain is he not is definitely no. He's not was in. who was. Who was the buddha. Because the low-key the real loki Messes up your own tactical schemes but also the other teams that tactical schemes run on basically. He's the kind of like all time. Low key era moving does not run with dina. 'cause he was like he was the joker a psg then he became a kind of a serious responsible player at then he started to like kind of corrupt little bits. We got bent on and off. The field is located. He's always energy noticing with loki while of watching with with young with young kids. Watch it with macgill's much older than with my cows. And when i've watched my girls and low key a see how they really dislike locate and then they really love loki. It's an unbelievable like hills in the acting that are is perfect perfect look the costing costing vat is perfect causing just like just like Tim robbins in. I mean fasting causton ryan like like i say this time low key by even when when fan or i'm not going to give stuff away but when when started at film when you know you have cool and give stuff away but i like the way with with this new low key how it has to go back to a place because something happened to low key what we've seen in avengers and have called those given away but i just cannot wait to watch it to watch here. My love loki. Mom relationship with with low key reminds very much my relationship with diego diego. Costa diego costa is low key. This guy's funny seinfeld shows like hey this guy and he left the winter latinos. Look this. i love this guy. But like i hate this song. I love this song. I know this song to song is watching pitch. Perfect to free with my girls. Have you seen pitch perfect now. No no no. Not yet not yet. Why you watching that film on my goodness because because sing acapella singing and everything. It's it's just. It's a beautiful film. It's just beautiful. In the way is the way to sing in the stories in the older girls together is on current in a bit of a wormhole. So basically i'm doing. I'm trying to like get healthy emphasis. Hoppy my excise bark. And i'm watching movies to rely cycle because then you can cycle huge distances without thinking about it Someone massive like ryan gosling tear at the moment just watched later on attorney forty-nine okay now. I'm watching dr while cycling i. It's wild like watching driving. He while cycling is such a head rush saw now. My rotation is basically causing rotation get round to pitch perfect asleep before we before we get to the euro. Forget very quickly. There's one localized line. I think about. I think about doing taking me go on like vegetarian radiology. Because they can't go fight locally themselves. I think this bring five. Just let them host local delivery and everything is just. It's beautiful. Can i talk about this anywhere. Tolleson basie plays key straight like a public school villain he does. That's the thing he basie plays like a private school villain is this. I'm watching during and i called him. It's like dude like playing like one of those dudes didn't like school. He's just really exercising the power he has to drink whom this is very conduct. Villainous politician got like a secret budget for like some contract. You don't know how it's very much energy. Yeah yeah yeah love it. I love it. Let's talk about the match last night. Huge implications league standings. It was a win thanks to those plays substitutions wall was the biggest ten the game for you. the best. some of that game was in my game time. Drink low there which played you go with tossed in some is like a show hitting the crossbar and then captain morgan delicious and finally ginger ale underwent under the exact site with talent. You need for d. roster and in this case a flavorful drink something. The captain visit kempton moveon dot com to find captain you drink responsibly. Captain morgan original spice drama premium caribbean run with spice of natural flavors. Thirty-five percent alcohol by volume kept moving company in new york. But the euro's because i remember right we we finished off a couple of messages from people who said they love when we finish one of the finished one. I lost Right he's house. Live with lee and now is so excited about euros. Because i am the one thing. I'm disappointed about with the euros. An plea and i'm pleased about is that england may i've older games at wembley some getting euro ninety six five which i think we're going to need and hopefully we can get fans the more funds in obviously the better but i'm just excited about it because i love about the world cup euros is that you have to go somewhere. Pull down then you have to find little baas and little cool and then you do when you go to that bar to me up and then you kind of get into little infrastructure. Everything was guy in in that place where you are in a kind of miss that i miss that often. I am so excited about the at the tournament. you know. We're coming up with the premier league in order to do the way we consume. It was quite was for me fucking of got too much most move. But now we're gonna see different stuff. I'm so excited. Who's the dog holes his man because like i love unfeeling italy. So yeah they adult cost star. You know what ryan weekend. We had a massive kind of like with roy keane decode faced with old behind the scenes. It of a dam was talking about your euros in tournaments and winning and winning built from the back. You know winning. Built from the back of england for me if england at a kill. Leany antonucci for six four respectively and they built from there. And we've got we've got up front. i'm fucking grow. I'm comforted from the back. Because i know that them to solidness. What's going to is is what's going to help to win the tony for somebody that defensive stability in the defensive strip. That's actually a really good point. Because i think that's probably what we've seen with england now is we've gone from kind of looking rather lovingly continental europe and playmakers. They've gone look all these ready. Technically gifted players lows of radio amazingly talented take technically gifted players mash. We just want a couple of boston's fuck us. Why change james will price ryan only james ward prowse's and then telling you haven't got that we haven't got that plane everybody else and you know even when you look at defense and our defenders is no one is go a gnarly surra about them. General prowse had it. He's got to kind of nod kind of vibe about him where he will upset somebody from the other team in the way in ways writing around people like you seen do wilfred saja like a place you know you can tell the janesville processed quite knowledge is this is facial hair facial man no one is that cut facial hair. It looks like a guy that jason stay would call up for a job. In one of those fucking babies was the ones that money. No one rucks facial hair like that under the age where we where we rise england played at wembley but can i just say that for me is massive and this is why when you look at england i start tournaments not great not great even games. We've got croatia and you say we'll talk about how creativity and defense which is always going to be a water for me but the creativity and who is going to put in what they're gonna do because why saudi of a day was again. Jack greenish come into the full in a game where it just looked like rash would looked like he was gonna do for to a bit for jason sancho. Look like he's doing a bit for doing something for a bit but by it wasn't quite happening and then jack greenish is the person that goes into that place where people are now afraid of him on working because the pedal even panel ego is searching for his leg so closing xactly search. And you know you're up here but you know it's down here somewhere you're searching egos that apparently i think en- games like this especially at home especially when it's tight. You need that player especially tournament football. How many times have england been. Well not just england. How many times do england fans fill like. They've been done by decision in another house and people say things but we don't do that. No i mean the england moral superiority e thing if i if is even a thing anymore than people need to radio shack themselves but obviously no one wants to see people diving all over the place. the thing about jack which i think is amazing is that a lot of england's key players will only fully thrive if they op-ed with people that complement greeley. She's one of the one of the few who i think. I think judy will be if he plays think jude. Bellingham will be one of those people who's just like we always say it's like a analogy is just like give me the ball and gout the way and that's what greece is so good is. Is that jack. Greatest doesn't need anyone. Obviously he he is when he has a team around him but he's very much like game. The bowl you have ryan drive. Yeah and that's going. Roy whipple loza problems. Like we said if he comes on. Lightning games against defenses. That's gonna cost so when you look at the the The dynamics over dude bellingham agreement an essential right that you've got the capability of calling on those three players right and the Phospholipid and they're having a brilliant game right there ripping. Can you imagine the riffing them free doing of each other. What they can do to the opposing team. Kinda take what miles davison. Exactly like that right because when you look at what and then what we're capable of what we can bring up the bench. What we could do but then free without thinking of anybody else having the tournament of their lives in this team. It's exciting did. I saw the other day i was watching Very jet greeters highlights and what blew me where he was. How slighty was how skinny he was there were no carbs told by the no carbs. The garbage skinny. They want thing a now. His carbs the most famous par. His kind of allows zeke. And i was like goodness agreed to obviously realized manetti age. I'm getting kicked two pieces right. And what's the thing about line from tended. There's some people that run towards the burning building. Greet us. I'm going to need bigger caused because i'm going to be running into burning buildings my career and he basically went in boca because he was like. I'm going to get kicked. They've got bounce off me and he made that choice. And there's a lot of wings you see unwind forwards midfielders whichever position. Who don't meet that choice. But this is what i think is so impressive about him like i said this before. His bravery is absolutely incredible and then the tournament situation where people are going to be afraid. Because you know in big tournaments and this is not to call out. It's a thing that happens to anyone in a stressful situation. It's not an exam room in an exam room. We've done your vision and you already difficult question. The people to get the radio high marks wants to take the risks and the ones that have the reasonable mocks. Don't take risks exam room. Of course you'll think you're gonna freeze gonna go for green lush and exam situation. Footballing situation is the one that reaches for. The risk is not a judgment on the players that don't because it's terrifying to do that but that's why he is so exciting. Destroy goes to the next level. That's why he exciting. Yeah yeah that's my players to watch. We'll get those talks guessing. Small cell stop at south australia sabina midfield yet because he's got such a big work he always manages to be creative. Despite having the a big load. I would go for parrella. It's e because the way that his trajectories goings would impressive. Barack gilmaz pataki. Yes just because. I think that he's going to be spearheading. Something really exciting. And he's showing so much braver in this title. Run-in and then petrie spain. 'cause i think i think. Spain and top challenges that they haven't quite anticipated petra nowadays are dying. But i think he'll be one to watch. I think you'll have a row. I mean always watch my son exotic. I think he'll start. So i picked players who some of some not so spoke so i think we'll be decisive when it really gets to the business watching the other day because just seemed flash of stuff goes as you mentioned mesa Watch out for them even more about superbeets but he didn't see too much of him against england the other day but i like golovin of Of rush russia e for is really good in the world cup. Really good especially the pressure on the. But i don't think he gets a he's as well. Yeah yeah yes man yeah. He's one of those sneaky sneaky for the oldest sudden. Our shopping came out of nowhere. Yes and we've got what foxy being an suddenly not in euros. Our shopping was just like oh my god. He's going to sign for anyone who wants to. I'm not saying golovin with duda but it's the way he's just slid tin easy and it just just everything was seen as the week goes support. Some zuber who familiar bring you know when you when you watch do. I don't know if i'm just drawn towards not saying that russia gonna win anything or do anything. But just like the way that he plays golovin of zuber and even curry christian. Vieri exactly when it goes in there. Seventy six foot six days there and then it's up to the people to be in and around. That can be done. That can be very dangerous. I'm actually for spain. I'm looking forward to watching job marina. Ghia i considered him a little bit for golden boom. He's gonna score goals. Especially if spain go deep. I'm actually really interested to see kareem ben. Zima gosh yeah yes. I mean i'm not one hundred percent sure whether he should have been included in the squad from being honest because if the trial that's coming up for the reasons he was excluded the first place. I'm really looking forward to seeing frankie down playing tournament again and kind of freight train. Unc how thought goes other than that. I'm just kind of really interested to see how italy do I know you mentioned him. As a potential dot calls before. But like i think people who've been keeping an eye on italy quite light the fact that the unto hyped when the ruined while they unlike a twenty five game unbeaten cost. There were horse. Italy italy the major tournaments. Just a good choice to think because of the fact that the scoring the smo- about the defense. Everybody's talking about defensive not concede in an. That's italy from from one from from me as a youngster. I've never in all the times of what italy in world cups We of never been. I think the most exciting. I've seen italy would probably save baio. Ninety four yes You know there were talking also foot amazing. If they've one wouldn't no one could say. Oh my god they did. 'cause baio at a world class like like we knew visuals world class anyway but that was him stampings authority on a tournament when he went in the tournament as somebody. That should be doing that but italy don't they defend an somebody comes out and blue what we saw with scarlatti. It's not like italy like the blast. Teams of bay fucking get it done they. They're very very astute. Doing and germany are petrified of them. So italy like real madrid. Basically always dangerous down always dangerous italy and in knockout. It's not a single managing national football. Who has got italy in the knockout stages and thought oh great. We're playing italy That has never happened. And i am not a mind reader by can pretty much tell you that has never up money. That's never happened someone else's money but no mine. This is what's so funny about them. You know when wral get the knockouts they have any tournament right. They send you remember who they are and they sent him all. The trophies is a think. Switch that activates when italy get to certain stage of a tournament like hang on a minute. Some comes address him. Do you realize from the world cup three times that was. They're like oh my god. Is this kind of glazed. Comes over. There is please rebel center the manager. Listen man just coming war because they put that baby in the woods that become the blue walkers the become the dressing room and the rise of blue. What happens this some tracy cabinets and what about what about germany. Right because like. There's an alert. Because i'm looking forward to seeing some light surge navarine this tournament you know. Obviously i think that One of the key players. And i remember watching from a last Last minute is is kimmage bro kimmage. When i watched that philip law and you hear pep guardiola took about. He's the best player he's ever coached. Also something to that effect and then you look at kimmage us kind of like woke class right here and now he's playing in six row and still doing unbelievable things. Yeah you know so. I'm looking at someone like converted to do in this tony. Would he be something different when he plays for germany when he's got that kind of caliber of player behind him. I think it just depends. Because i actually think that i think cash may play right back. Yeah is the best right back in the squad. That's the thing about But he's also one of the best sentiment failures is there. But i think in terms of what germany have way best act in central midfield than they are right back. Nothing that you look for example they could have tony gross. They've got elk doin longer at. They've go flurry annoy house. But the thing for me it really depends on whether they play a three or four. I don't personalize this free at the back for germany. I think they should go full. And if they go for play kimmy show right back actually frees up front six way meta an allows them to experiment a little bit more and basically kind of recreate that by lineup and vibe for example i think you could have like and harvard behind vanna and i think that works really well also and i'd play him in the middle with doina across for example or you can play them as a three like one of the may have to lose out who loses out. I think a rescue loses out. Love is ultimately a little bit conservative on the bad way like he backs his established players. Place donovan before now. I thought germany be disappointing this tournament because i saw their early like they're already friendly's but then lost washing his latvia. I'm sorry to say my prediction mayo. Date because he played kemmish why he played alongside goossens the to The wingbacks cross and gunderman through the middle and harvests upfront. Along with miller then came on in the second half and germany looked brilliant. Some was only latvia. Dot is how you beat if you're a team that's how you be a team that is maybe second tier second tier stream oppressive and moving the ball around. I think cross one will likely be one that he goes with an eye in the back. Three is not ideal ron. You're right or if they were gonna play about three. I would like a different configuration. About three bob star sean. For example on his tony ruediger plays right rudy. Definitely can they do. What can they do. What mussa said about italy and just all of a sudden they get their eyes turn blue when they got not enough talent in that squad to be any team in the tournament. The problem is they've looked very much like a number of times in the last year or so when they fight example even going back to light bid a nations league stuff against the netherlands. They've looked very much like eleven players on the football pitch team sometime. I mean this goes back to the last world cup as well so honestly this germany squad. They could win the whole thing and they could go out in the group stages. Well what about france because embarked already for me I think is already is it is everything is just nice for him to be Some awesome benghazi of a day about the different stages of a player of ease elite nature. And how you go from twenty to twenty three and then when you get to go to another place in the way you develop the way you play. He says the e. believes that is is that one is just going to is just gonna go again because you look at what of got in now is just back. Ben zimmer grease mun. Vincent can do that. Link up your holiday play grease just drop off in ican to can anything you want's. Can you see boss fronts. Rose can you see poss- fronts. i can't only be. I'm not saying they won't do. It is the players that go for franz national team. Love playing for france they lost in the learning and effects absolutely loving it. They love it. They love some seem to love it more than playing for their clubs which is unusual. I'm not criticizing people. I'm not saying it's a criticism. It's like they loved that bond is the squad and the connection is incredible right and the way the pay elevators game for franz pacific. He hasn't had the best season. Which sounds strange starts. Been bumpy. hasn't had by his standards. The the very best season because he gets more excited when he goes to france because of us there and knows that he loves. I would love that notice. Like watching mbappe. Pay is is watching early. Michael jackson at the motown twenty fifth anniversary. Billie jean were when i was rewatching the france argentina. My favorite game about two thousand eighteen world cup. And there's a moment and back pages decides he decides to just go when he decided to go and take control of a game those no stopping him and you see the argentina defenders who playing out their minds and he has to shreds and you see in the semi against them belgium where he puts fellini had a good tournament on absolutely skates. And it looks like he's entering warp drive in it's like he is the most thrilling player in world football when he's on and he seems to love for france and the scary thing was watching them against wales and again. We'll say well. It was a up the way. That ben simmons pogba grease men and bobby combines. Wales was was frightening. It was because it was light work for them. It was light work for them. i think france games might be really fun to watch as well because i think that the one area for me which concerns me with france by still think that if you're looking around the teams i love. What similar issues is Centers defensively yep the amount of options. They've got in an it's hopkinson just as kong scary new looking at people like kings. The coleman who was the champions league final man-of-the-match last year molested the euro. And he's probably getting that starting eleven. Now maybe denier thomas who's had kind of revival this season. You've obviously korean. Bends him up in yugoslavia. Jerus- who's been amazing france and you haven't even mentioned above bank one on grayson and he's belly. I don't know. I just think to from midfield. Forward that more stocks than anyone because they've already one well cup and they. It seems to me now that they wanna do. Spain euros world cup to sparking. Do they want to do that. Because you can't tell me that when you look franz lineup from goalkeeper straight all way free. That's not a international team. That should be doing that. They should be. And i heard publicity over data. Yes you look at team. And it looks like a fee for a fee for game. He says but we get together and pogba to be saying that saying publicly. That's a massive thing to a massive statement because he's really pointing a finger everybody's saying yes when amazing amazing individuals which they are in but if we don't get it together an yes they won the woke up. They've got to continue to win. Because i think they've got age on their side is wrong. Yeah i love lie on Yeah you can feel him in that dressing and you can feel like you can see you know when you look at the energy of the franz team and like not just because there's a lot of black plus a got a energy and vibe that you feel like it just seemed to having so much fun and enjoying being elite but this is funny. The only thing that will really start. Francois you're right is is perhaps themselves so side. Actually just were similar. T who were not injured would've been one of the great defenders of his generation without question and so sad because ntt and veran is this. Po cost is like ten minutes long. I think i think and teaching verandas basic night. But the problem without t to you. Don't have that defender who you know. Iran is a superb defender. But one thing we've learned about him retirements you do need. Maybe that sort of that stewart. Indefens- remorse is a steward. Steve bruce in those kind of garden yet guy. You know the as at some stage. He's going to do something that you just have to say. Well you need you. Need a lighthouse. Not just what you need. This episode is brought to you by travel oklahoma. You could win a free. Oklahoma vacation techs travel. Okay to the number five seven seven eight zero to enter to win an all inclusive oklahoma getaway. It includes a gas card delicious local food and a stay at us donning. Oklahoma state park whether it's hiking through ancient mountain ranges visiting a serene stream cruising route sixty six the longest driveable stretch in the nation for touring world glass museums. 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You'll get shows that pop with color and look larger than life. See for yourself at high sense. Dot com first game is Is belgium russia of doing it. With patrick vieira and roy keane but the thing is he's always say because that's the first thing people say you sitting between them but they let me show it at loggerheads reluctant because the respect the respect levels go food roof and i don t you must have seen the keenum. Oh yeah cool. It was like i injected watching and it's really strange because when you listen to them out spoke about it and the obvious respect and free checkers. Crazy is so good. Because i remember the weeks leading into when we're gonna play unite. Patrick whole demeanor change from the monday to saturday. Everything in training change of patrick is our shop. He was al our intense he was allie was because when you listen to them both speak about it. The both of them said didn't wanna give him an inch. Because patrick said the same thing. Saudi roy keane said if i play anywhere below what i'm capable of playing. We'd probably lose the game because it was it was on such a bad sub so balanced ever got the better of that particular. Confrontation probably wins the game so true yes so then when when i remember patrick training his demeanor change because he was now in up against roy. Keane onset roy keane aside and win for losing. How did in training what. What sort of things did he do. What was the tackles with the tackles a fiercer. Yeah the when he tackled. Yup the the tax fiercer winning it really properly winning mean he's He's intensity in respect of keeping the ball and if you if you miss controller is on you bomb when took member. Tony adams is still captain titan but like e already is getting yourself in. I'm praying against roy keane mode and he was playing in training. Like you knew you had to play on saturday and it was something to behold because normally patrick when he's training training these really cody smoothies nights in in but like when it really gets intense obviously goes to that level which we've seen in get to but like it was so evident to see that when we're playing man united you know and then all at does it kinda like raises the older ships. Then 'cause everybody's thoughts the ride because we're playing united don't care what anyone says when you know you're playing united you after be ready because like roy. Keane said they would fight with you because they had they had players Play players in. Could it could dig in. You know economics like keenan. Skulls keenan's on the qianlong beckham on the wing. Gigs on the other wing. You know it was like colon colon york upfront They were it was the benchmark. You knew you're coming up against the best. The very very best and it was. I envied them. And hey demon. Roy keane says the same all of us as a team hated them because they were so good they were so there was so good. They're so good it was. It was annoying. Yeah those games with fraud. I remember like back then face to that used to make me feel physically ill. The morning of it appears to feel sick. The days of the of monday night osmo games by then. But i've ever threat last week. Twitter about eric because there was a seems to be quite very chop up and up and my time line and i was like what she's mode highlights and just got me thinking about how like i just don't think you've ever seen midfielder like him before since it was such a unicorn play like never before sincere. Hybrid hybrid persson. Yeah i was just as two because with that skill set and i think this is the thing that with all of the kind of hostile never replaced vieira yukon place recuse awesome on also never replaced joe berto because it was a player as good as job erta was that were play out. There could replace what he brought to the awesome team right when he got that. We all remember he walks into dressing. Remember we had to play borussia moenchengladbach in the uefa cup. Whatever it was a time and and Imon venga came together when they when they came to start game in germany. And i think we oughta is when we played blackburn but like patrick came in and he sat down introduce everybody when he came. We saw we sent center off Sent an even when he came out for training think well is the center off and he went into midfield and even then eased. It was all to watch him in names of is it was like a bambi. S but without the fully new over the place. He was beautiful. The blackburn goal off just was so like ryan e pasta the outside of these like the referee blew up for a foul from any time zone. He was just he was just kicking it. They're honestly moves pass just once. She's how he's voted outside of his right. Foot is just one to mercy is a defendant right up in trying to slide in. Maybe jason wilcox is and he hits the ball with outside of his right foot with a defender on my inside and benz into my path the outside of his right foot as if they've thought played referees blown whistle and you know when refugees boneless when you're not expecting and then you just do something that's how he passed that bulls yes yes to unreal vieira For me vr is most impressive performances of avalos. Vieira right everyone loves football. Loves football loves vr. In my opinion away from home was the one that blew me away always. I always thought the arrogance leads but the one that really got me. Fiero an anfield. The very few footballers who treated unfilled like a red carpet very you can maybe five. She turned them also players he unreal. Stephen girard mentions that he got schooled by fear. This man pitch and like a red carpet. The way that this man counterattack. The way he broke the way he owned possession. And the way that thing was you know because they say when it. When it's that loud you can't hear your players and this and his other was playing in his own head. That was easy. Listened to this the classical honest when you see when you see vieira playing certain points. While i felt when i saw him was his serenity. Actually and you watch him like there's nothing we can do to put that person off their game. All we can do is play our game and hope that what we put together in our configuration matches. What he's doing but uconn actually went when he's on is strange because you talk about feeding l. before games ryan those historians anthony with me. Football fan is the. I was somehow able to suspend that when the play against me so beautiful i'd be like i have to just acknowledge that islam is up in boston. We destroying us twenty seven. You know when when when there was on against united a certain level was just like. Yeah this is what it is but the same thing as well move when he lost when he because member. Patrick sent off a few times when he gave twice twice in five games twice and took asia. Went and this is what i'm saying about when you see him in training when he goes to that person that real spiking nadi like he's not happy person. The only seen i i would argue. Like vera is retailers in relation to what he did in the middle of the pitch and rude Obviously could play as a sweeper. The only plastic considered because in would run. He would skip almost see the way that he would run. He was having like he would float with his high shoulders. You know the only one. I've come to fear but yet see like with with it And when you see the fee for games that the every single team has really every single team. The top boys plane like israel's every single team as route it. I think you know when when i watched him so obviously really came to the fore for me in. Ha when he went to milan. And all that stuff. In you know eighty-eight it was just looking at somebody that looked because when we were younger dreadlocks and stuff was something of scorned by the parents. You weren't allowed to have that hair in their house moose. You weren't allowed so rosters and dreadlocks. Were scolded let people didn't like it. Parents didn't like it fully. You alike weed smoking. No good just lazy people. Just come until to see somebody like rude. Hulu with his dreadlocks is stature. Running the game and then the header when he scored that in the final when he just saw all the locks to sculpt flash because he's had just want and you see the locks flash in the heads of the bull just flew into the goal it was it was like for me it was like man this is this is amazing is amazing so nobody torture aquinas. Well before we found spy wanted to say this on route who the player if you look at the last thirty as a football who could play in every single position to walk loss level every single position. I think a team of ten retailers wins everything. Ten minutes wins. Everything are just conceded. we've never played. Yeah you could probably play everywhere because he plays sweep if against italy like twenty one. And he's mind-blowing. He plays the second strike at milan in the cia in the european cup final and schools to us ambassador lying. He plays anywhere smithfield. Places a winger. He's the guy mazen so yeah he's the only one i would say. Pay tv erin. Terms of what he did his dominance of midfield on had a different type of dominance which was like just astonishing passing into fee. And i mean. He's my favorite player. Would say at this point just because of the intensity working brought you can drop. How some of these other players and we win those titles without them. Yeah but you don't win any of them without key. Imagine those tournament field together. It's like that is it. Sorry did cross riley just dropped on us. You can't you can't do that just before we go. Reckon i reckon if you i reckon if you watch the studio if you actually get the footage of the when they first will continue studio table arcadia become a camera the producers going like. Yeah mussa there is an energy when and you see that little cheek the both of that kind of smile which is just. It's beautiful to see because we're talking about to the s competitor is king. Hey eighty eight some the smile at both of them had. There's a. there's a little bit where it's really uncomfortable for because when you see the tried to get the cameras ready should watch getting the cameras ready voice and then you see them kind of like not look each other in the. I was so great to what i've said you know. Tony adams was Are couldn't have asked for a great captain in respect leadership and now he was what he went through. And what what he led also to but not. If those a captain. Roy keane does another captain. Arthur brown one keane mon. You never ever get a day off with him. You don't get a day off with him and he thought and you shouldn't plane at the levels the playing for the club's your plainer roy. Keane is perfect. Man on the pitch to emulate everything your manager once evergreen man united to at that time is unbelievable. Sounds that never dale. It'll be on your toes time. Line guys. I'm gonna have to go because i've got to do my preparation for the euro's you know like i said very excited about it. Guys them go ask you quickly though just before we go this i i. I'm gonna ask you in the last time when you don't like us winning fronts. i say frontal Under it's gonna go. England france to have a bad day england gettman of final calls. We've got all our games at wembley fingers crossed might have wanted roamed core finals and then we'll have fronts into finals it will go tight baptist. Score then greenish come on and score and then it goes to penalties scarlet penalties than the jerusalem mris eat and then join henderson comes on protects the fifth panel and we win the euro's jordan henderson runs off and everything. Every everything's okay. Tim calvert lou and the first person. So that's how i see. So facts guys. Seen murphy gets marquess. Ryan han and mussa kouanga. We'll see you again next week for more euros chat. What can what can i say of come on england.

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The Nintendo Gazette launch

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The Nintendo Gazette launch

"Welcome one and all to Intendo Gazette. Yes My name is Richard and this was the show that was previously cooled. Skip frames and I'll explain all of that shortly coming up this and give you the rundown on how this show goes and what content to expect to see coming out of the show so without further ado as I said my name is Richard. And this is this week's podcast Were so apologized patriots over. Skip frames for the delay in releasing his show. I completely understand if people are annoyed. Baio apologized carly many people know. The world is gripped in a global pandemic. And we've been basically getting our absolute ship together ahead to my children. The house everything is all sorts place Intel. That things are going to be. Okay we think financial so that's enough dwelling on the current situation. Let's explain what's going on with this show so I sat one. Nine wasn't very happy with how skip frames was doing and realize that it's much more of a broader show. It's kind of general in terms of gaming and it never really had any direction and I'm useless to be fair without direction asked my wife so essentially I wanted to change and I looked at the stuff I've got going on around me. Why in joy? Why don't enjoy? I was just sitting. I'm playing my switch a lot and I love a falling in love in the last couple of years of Nintendo again so I thought one I changes to an actual intended podcast with a slight twist pointing to my camera feed me and essentially the twist is this. I'm going to look to write. A paper. Form is well. I released once a week with three page. Frederick spread if you like asking guests to come on and brought column for me also features page which you guys and Gals at home. Listening can get involved in by sending your animal crossing screen shots. Yo Yo Mariam Michael levels those kind of things and all of this will be explained in due course when we start building lil elements to the show four now. What I want to do is just build the show. I knew show for Nintendo News with a little extra now. I've got into East sports recently and I maybe adding the odd eastbound article into the show from time to time rock league is on the switch. I enjoy it. I'm enjoying my sim racing as well so all of that could come into play in this podcast. And that's where I WANNA go. I want to talk about Nintendo's products by also want to still add a little bit flare that makes it a little bit extra and all announced before we do. The Sim Racing Sports Star for the other. A sports stuff that this is an east sports section. And I KINDA WANNA make it more newsy if you like without throwing the weather in to really give you someone else now. I know there are many of unintended. Podcasts out there and one of my good friends build. Nintendo switch crafts and there are into Nepal Causton. Essentially I like what they I like what those guys do so I want to kind of not copy. Not Reno none of that. But it's bring my own sake my own spin on Nintendo's going on and if I'm honest is the most exciting thing of console wise I can really get behind. The new xbox playstation isn't Radi setting the world on fire for me. I have a strong enough to play games that will be out on the peace five in the xbox one you know and the xbox game pass on. Pc is enough for me. So that's Ridi enough babbling about this podcast. How it's going to work. It's Nintendo news through and through is talking about the Nintendo stuff. That's out there looking at small East sports. You Got Killer Queen Black Boston looking at Sim racing. You know those kind of things but the bulkhead this is all about. Nintendo Nintendo switch retro. We're going to be looking at gains gangs. I haven't played those should applied from the FAMICOM ripe fruit snacks right through to the Gamecube sixty four. We'll be looking at all those things and everything in between first impressions reviews but based on Nintendo switch. The bulk of this show will be based on Nintendo Nintendo's products wave a little bit added flair for good measure. So that's this podcast. I have changed names. It's got a new branding patron patrons been done yet but patron we'll be done so you can support the show and patriots will go on to once we start doing the right up. We'll get the right up early. I always get this podcast early or released to the public on. I'm going for either a Monday or Wednesday. I'M GONNA record at the weekends and then it'd be released a patient and patriots will get it fuss. Oh and you can get this showed the show here for as little as a dollar And the writing call. We may put into a separate page patient. Because it's GonNa take a little bit more time to everything in place and you know it's a it's a computer calls that communist often on a choice on a bit different to see if I push myself to produce content in a different format as well. So that's the Nintendo Gazette please if you are listening. Don't don't turn off and go for Christ. Another just gives a chance. It's GONNA BE ON ANCHOR ANCHOR DOT FM Slash Nintendo Gazette I will confirm all of these By believe is there is a twitter. Handle the neen gazette look for the Nintendo Gazette on twitter and we have an email which is the nintendo gazette at G. DOT com. And you can't get in touch with the show in many different formats. You can on twitter instagram and email as well so without further ado which seems to be my favorite. Saying when crack with Nintendo's latest news and today we're going to be discussing direct which was a couple of days ago. The mini stealth direct. We're GONNA be talking about animal crossing at the fact that the real the real latest pandemic that's striking the globe could have caused the sales of the switch to spike in the UK. And a few more news stories as well here. So yes I gonNA start with the biggest news of recent nintendo stuff is the direct gonNA thank gains radar here for having a ride out because I forgot to write games down that were coming out from this direct we had all been hankering and pondering when the next direct would be and obviously as. I've said couplets arms we've had this global pandemic you kind of fill yourself going Roy. Okay let's take a step back. It's probably not going to be happening very soon. Butts two days ago on the twenty six of we got a stealth direct. I like to call it a stealth direct because no one saw this coming just literally a paid of nowhere which is great you know. And that's It's an incredible thing to get surprises. So they had this as a direct many. It was a direct mini. There wasn't any major stuff that we knew wasn't coming at the same time. There wasn't any big stealth drops all year. There wasn't any like legend. Zelda breath the wall to aiding all that we didn't get any of those kinds of things in direct but what we did get was some really good stuff opens with Zeno Blade chronicles definitive edition. Sorry I couldn't catch my breath probably somewhere is in anyway as I said the direct starred with chronicles definitive edition. This is a remastered but it looks almost like a remake. It looks really really smart. They showed a radio link. The cut scene of in game footage and also Had A new epilogue chapter dubbed Future Connect Connected Future connected to Fiji connected? It looks really good. I mean you can tell that they've really using the switches processing power. It's really favor this Kinda game. My biggest like shame if you like as in finishing Zeno Blade chronicles two. I'm probably sixty hours in need to go back to it. That game is once I got my head around the combat and stuff. That game is fantastic is is one of the best. Gop paid for a long time and this looks to be incredible. I never had a we used never played this. I never had a new three D. S. the one with the bigger processing power. So I've never had that. This just looks amazing and it releases on May twenty nine. According to this direct we are going to be broke in May It's exceeded blades is definitely more. Gop goodness it looks action based combat. Now if you have played the original one on the way let me know I. I haven't played the original one of the you. Sorry so I would love to know your faults and failings. How does it compare to buy chronicles to all those findings on the buccaneers? I'm definitely going to sit down and try and get fruit at least the main story of Zeno Blake Chronicles to. I've got all the DLC everything there to actually try and complete like game is huge. I've never known anything. Like H poverty. The witch a three the game was ridiculous so chronicles and future connect. Which is the epilogue chapter comes out may twenty ninth and then our of nowhere to. K- dropped three game announcements. I was a lot of us had anchored for especially to the series. And I've always said I ever since flying like wasteland two mutant zero zero or whatever it's called all phantom doctrine the ex con would be incredible title on the switch and long beholds bioshock borderlands. Next are heading to the switch so we got bow shock author even from the first second third and they're amazing gained if you never played by shock and you're looking for system. The player is a great. I call to see how they translate. Imbo shock all three of them released on previous generations console so they released on the PS three the xbox three sixty and that was for boscq quantum two and three a three released all previous generation consoles And then you've got the remarks and stuff they released onto. Pc another missile bugs and stuff with a PC version. But those games are some of the best to K- published games for a long time. Their incredible you know ignore the micro transaction bullcrap that you get with like two. Ks MBA series. These games are incredible. A name we saw borderlands you're GONNA get Borland's won the prix sequel and Portland's to not borderlands three. I suspect those three is in a more powerful engine that would require some serious horse path from the switch. So there's no bullets may be wrong. We may say it's a shell stay. Shaded style graphical game if you love Lou issue is you love teaming up with four buddies diving in. I believe you're GonNa get all the contents of your hard stuff as well really as I mean. That's a lot of content. They're out those just those two games. He six games already from From Two K. And then you've ex. Commonwealth ex come to is coming and it's got the war of chosen expansion and the four. Dlc Pack so as a lot of content now we didn't get any prices. These are releasing on May twenty ninth. There was no prices with these butts at the same time. I'm hoping that they do don't do a dirty and Lacey's at full price you know. Thirty thirty five. Forty pound is incredible price. It's probably going to be near fifty whether I pick these up or not. I don't know ex- probably three the x club. Probably GonNa be the one that I want to grab because X. Two is game I've got not played but love I love I. Just don't sit down long enough and tactical games though. Thanks for friend. I'm starting into more tactical base games next we had DLC shadow doomed from all marvel ultimate lines three unfortunate. My son had this and he tried to in Is Out now so for everyone who still plying that you'll see. I'm glad that they are supporting this. When it goes it goes on all our from pick up. I love the Marvel Lines Games that wanted to just never had a chance to play this and then we had a new capcom game which is described as a deep sea side scrolling adventure. Lets you explore strange well. Under the waves its previous available. O'clock late exclusive and has now come to the depths of the switch so this is Called a shouldn't ck into depths. This looked gorgeous like it really. Did I sat there with George? The Ground Radi. I how beautiful this game looked didn't realize it was on. I was apple. Arcade exclusive butts. This looks genuinely wonderful. Look kind of Metro Advani. Terrarium style game. I don't know how much content is. Hey for for your for your buck if you like but I think this is about sixteen seventeen pound. It's under twenty quid. And it just looks bloody fantastic honestly. It's a really good-looking game. All we haven't gone up apple arcade anymore. If I we still had I would test on a block. It just looks really really really really really pretty. So that's a that was dropping. We're GONNA get onto animal crossing shortly but there was some animal cruelty. News Update is coming butts. I want to discuss animal. Crossing in its own segments will get that then. We had good job. Good job looks hilarious. You solve environmental puzzles before but have you ever launched a project for the five of schools to get meeting back in order you will once you've played good job. Yes there is a tagline. No word of a lie and this reminds me of human for flat but less Karna slapstick. Essentially you start as a A worker in your dad's business and the idea is to work your way up to CEO. And honestly I think it's just it's just a fun puzzle game honestly it really does look really fun and yet there is literally cut saying where he gets the the project any Ping Zip through the office. Walls look solid honestly. Looks good fun again. I think this is under twenty quid. I think for me might be. It'll be on the pricey side. I don't know I'm I'm I'll be wrong. Don't judge a book box cover. I'll have to wait to see some of the of a series reviews out that I like the look of it I I suppose. The best way describing. If you'd like to look of it then Reeche by then we got Catherine full-body I never played this game. Developers have persona made an odd ball psychological puzzle about infidelity which is always great and now you can finally play. It's expanded version. Switch get ready to push Symbolic blocks this has got a serious cult following. I've never played this of city and I've always gone a quite fancy playing it but it just looks completely messed up and I suppose that is the idea So yet so catherine as comes out. Sorry it's not out now. Is July news update for ring fitchet adventure? I don't have this product would love to get it but you know haven't got and it got new rhythm mode which that you work out. Two songs from marijuana cease between two breath of the wilds and more female option voice. Now apparently today go. If you'll you'll ring eventually you get an update and as a free update. Then we had announcement for King's bounty this comes out in twenty twenty King's bounty to sorry a the one thousand nine hundred tactical. Pj inspired games. Like here's of my magic gets own modern followup you'll lead armies through massive battles and while interacting with friends Rowell's whose personnel is shaped by your choices so I don't know much about this series at all. This looks very much like a hex based tactical game very fine lines of sieve aspect. This is Kinda games that spy series where it's gone those kind of things. It looks good on the switch. It really does say I've never played these games. So I'd love to know thoughts and feelings about this looks good. I said I've got into the tactical series now. So this could be a pick was out at some point this year next Super Smash Bros ultimate We had a release for new Pfizer which came from arms. So I was slightly shocked by this. Nintendo's long forgotten fire Burlingame has now got a fire in smash they got. I wonder if they're going to be doing something with arms this year. It'd be incredible. I know people who plan and they love it and then they kind of cut the service quite quickly so maybe arms on the way back. I don't know maybe Nintendo with looking through the catalog of games that they've gotten home. We had a game here. It was called arms. So That's release on June twenty in. That's hasn't really been said too much Yet don't know but it was also a note that says switch online members can also play for Free On march twenty six to April sixth. That's what makes me think which is now she saw downloaded and go. Which tells me that might be doing something with arms. I don't know the next one is probably one Wa- second game that I'm really excited for bravely default to download the demo and next week show. I'll be discussing the demo in more depth. I've just start playing. The Demo. Apparently Demos like a complete site to the actual game this releases in twenty twenty and it's the next show in the Assyrians inspired by classic. Gop telling your story with four fresh-faced heroes while you only white to four to play the full game you can pick up free demo shop now. I believe as I said the data was kind of a separate entity to the game. Econo- gives you the public bill to show you the mechanics than you on that. So I never got to play privately. Bravely default on the free. Yes and really wish I had done such a proper. Gop J. Fan this is again that slipped underneath my right up. I look forward to give it a go so demo is out now and I will be next week. I said to give you my rundown of what I feel about. The Demo next was clubhouse games fifty-one worldwide classics. Hoping they got online. It has online. I should say you get like backgammon. Chess you get a hockey clubhouse loads of different games. So there's that again was a bit surprised which is an Ninja as a free supply. Looks Very Split. Tune like and the blurb here from Games right if you love spoon for individuals action you should give Ninja a look as well. It's no longer combat game with that. Supplies plays against each other using off the wall. Ninja weaponry and gunpowder. The bill is and you don't have much to lose because it's free to play and that's very true it looks like very split tune style. You this gum that gives you a powder power and you can run up walls and looks really really cool. I think it's going to be one of those games. That essentially takes the world by storm a little bit because it's free as Berry Migra transient. That's all I'm hoping that they don't do because we want gains full of. Don't get me wrong. They're making gain. It's free if they're going to add cosmetics. Yeah Okay I'm okay with that but do it in the war frame or the path of exile sense where you don't just hammer people with these micro transaction bollocks but you allow people to purchase those things to support the game because they want to not because they need to next we got some star wars update. Is We got Jeddah Academy? I think these leaked and we got episode racer. That's code that coming soon. No idea web. The Panzer Dragoon Remake never played it. But that's out now and then got trials of manner which is April twenty. Four demo is on the switch. Haven't got rounds applying the Democrat. If I get chance this week I'll do bravely default and Charles Amount Demo give my feelings and then we were left with the switch. Switch no sword and shield expansion pass revealed a new pogrom which was a fighting style. Pok Mon that comes into the all of Ama- and it's the fighting Type Legendary Cover Food Foo and you can play one of two towers. You can't clear both unclear one or two hours and it will. I think it's dark and water an give a different guy. Evolution stall to that pokemon unaccounted rounded out the direct. We did get news of future which is coming. Out in Autumn Two thousand twenty out of Schools Blades. If you don't want price scarring you can download the free to play version of blades. Because yeah that comes out in Spring Two Thousand Twenty Four Thousand Mec Kiss May twenty twenty which I think is a like Diablo Star. We'll have a game played. It looks good. Vega closed Beta happens on April nine hundred vigorous actually but out paradise. Getting up part is remastered. Which is co twenty twenty saints row? Four free elected is out as recording now. The legendary alleged of heroes of cold steel comes out in June thirty. If this is a game I am quite successful. Missed a drill and drill land which sounds really wrong a comes out in June twentieth and a Monograph Dungeons Spring Two thousand twenty s another game four as well so that was this week's direct wide love to know from you guys as what gains are you excited for from the direct. That came out of nowhere. Let me know your thoughts if he taught me an email at internal Gaza Agena dot com. Hit me up on twitter at or the Nintendo Gazette on twitter have looked for. Let Me Know Games. You're GONNA be playing what Games you're currently playing and all those good things from Nintendo. So we roll from the direct and as you know. I did skip from the animal crossing news because I want to sit here for the next three hundred twenty six thousand hours and discuss animal crossing yes. Tom Nooks capitalize capitalism simulator. Where you are in debt to. He's a raccoon but he some animal. He's also greedy. Bow Stewards after all of your bells. Yes that is the world of animal causing new horizon. It launched on March twentieth and I was very grateful to one of our listeners and viewers that donated need the money to purchase this game and experienced this game first hand and one experiences been. It's kind of a strange strange game to really be involved him in the best possible way. The reason being is I've never played animal game. I know there's been a few beforehand and this has been seven years in the making four on. I know it was review bombs on metacritic because people don't like how Nintendo of implemented the islands is. I'M GONNA get that Admi- thoughts and opinions of that shortly but let's discuss the core gameplay you well you go to an island and basically you fly out there and Tom Nook set you up in a tent and the day from there is to pay Tom. Book Tom Book Tom Nook back. And the first thing you have to pay back is your nook miles and he makes up. This thing of you. Travel cost miles. And he's going to give you these Mars. And the idea is to payback your nook miles and then all of a sudden I've nowhere. He slaps I massive foreign on your backside for wanting a house. Yes you've upgraded your tent or House. And now you've got to find ninety eight thousand bells to payback and essentially. That is the premise of this. Game you are there in debt to this person or animal for the rest of your days to come. So what can you do in animal crossing to payback this much money or do you have to essentially pay the money back? Well there are a few things that you can sit down and do well whittling your life away paying. Not Tom Nook back and essentially. Let's look at the museum. You can catch bugs fish and different criticize fossils and you can open up a museum for Bows Botha's Botha's Botha's I'm GonNa say Botha's Messiah bows the owl and you can basically give him items of like say fossils criticize bugs fish to open up and store them in a museum for you and your visitors to go and have a look and it's kind of a nice way of progression of you going around and seeing essentially what you've collected and what you still need to collect you then have your everyday animal crossing life thing from planting trees planting flowers. Sal You know and just genuinely Woodley apparently con speak doing things you do things like. Stodgy valley you can. You can make you bug garden. She can pick oranges. Build furniture and so on top nook does give you objectives. You can Where I am currently in the game is. I'm just chosen the three pots for houses and essentially animal. Causing does do you. It does give you an anxiety if you're behind our people but the best way to describe animal crossing is actually. It's a game to take it at your own pace. There's no need to worry about what everyone else is doing. Because the game is designed few. Take you at your own pace. And that's essentially animal crossing in a nutshell now. The reasons being reviewed bomb is because you can only have one ORLAND per switch. You can have if you've got like six or seven profiles on your switch. They can all play animal crossing butts. They have to go on to your island and progress can't be moved forward and they said done by the the the the landowner if you like there was a special name animal crossing gate the person but can't quite remember what was the land. Only if you like the game owner can progress the Taw of the the story and those things but the other people can visit your island and do stuff but it will always play on your island and this people angry and tolerant of annoyed the sense that Nintendo being greedy or they're being you know sadistic how they do things and quite frankly. I think it's stupid. My opinion is you know if you've got one once which multiple people wanNA play on an island or that more plannable crossing how I see the island as kind of a backdrop. It's a platform for you to enjoy the space and do as you please you know and I think for this tile. It's kind of a nice way of doing things that keeps things in one place and if you'd say you've got children they want to do something on animal crossing you can help them and you can guide them in in a sense that you can add it to your island. I do get people's upset and people think Nintendo just being greedy and they want you to go out and buy multiple switches to have multiple copies of animal crossing. But I mean is it really that much of a problem. Let's be honest. Let's is it worthy of being rude. Route bombed review bombed on metacritic because ultimately. What does that solve not lot because you draw more attention to the game because news outlets like myself talk about it which then drive up sales because people want to be involved in this kind of and it just doesn't make any sense and it's just as vicious cycle of this you know. Review Ball Will drive up the phone. I don't get it. I don't think it's a problem. I haven't come across that by the time. I am the only one in my household playing animal crossing and my son. If he wants to have a go at it he just joined on. My Island. Doesn't bother me read it doesn't I don't get it. So that's Kinda my thoughts and feelings about the review bomb. I think silly I think any review bomb pop from the Star Wars Battlefront two. That was totally totally justified. But mainly any review bomb. Just doesn't Mike a lot of sets they got that's modulations and people may disagree with me. People may completely think I'm talking gibberish. An out of my backside by a genuinely failed like there is no need to review bomb. This unfortunately I don't really have too much more silent. They go and you can. You can tell me I'm an idiot. You can tell me or you like that's my fault. But my thoughts on animal crossing is again for a first time. Playa. It's a fun experience. It really and carly in the current state of the world's where all always being covered by the news and and this pandemic that's gripping the globe is kind of Nice to have something that's a bit brightly colored and a little bit daft. Ima Hands that simple as that. That's my attitude. It's just a bit daft a bit silly and it's nice to China or go to an island do some bits and pieces and you can turn off again and you come back to it later. That's animal crossing a nutshell. It's just a good time You know it's not much more to say about it. I don't know how many hours I've now put in animal crossing butts. I've done a fair bit. I'm happy I'm doing so far. I'm down to just as I point eight days ago. A much switch start giving you an actual timeframe of how long you've put into it. They got that's my thoughts and feelings on animal crossing and his review bomb state. I will say before go. What was announced that the direct was an Easter Bunny update during April from April? First which is as of recording about four days time. We're going to say They gave us a teaser of egg gathering. Diy crofting and so you essentially get the Easter Bunny and you get some will say Some different things that come from these two bunny you can make crossing things alleged. Say I just have to say this? Actually the pole vaulting is the most is just a really fantastic experience in this game. I love the Paul Action Great. So that's my thoughts and feelings on animal crossing of trying to wrap this up to three times but I keep forgetting it was always else ad. I want to see your creations. Your hands and stuff and once we get the written feature up and running will then feature y'all islands and your creations in on the paper version of this podcast. So get them. Send in and I'll tell you more about it shortly and I just wanted to quickly briefly. Say That we've got apparently then tennis which is sold everywhere now. This could be the with the current global pandemic and UK in us. Anyway this comes from Mattru this dangerous which is basically sold out everywhere with only one viable being sold at high prices opera couple of high profile games and looking to suffer some minor delays because of covy nineteen now we are seeing the effects of hot westbound specifically intendo switch with so many people were forced to stay at home. There is a natural growing desire to be entertained by some bowl games. So it's not surprising. To see the switch poison ballgame says the guy who doesn't intend to podcast. Switch CEOS SHOOT UP. What kind of surprise? What is it kind of is price though? Is that the console. Handheld hybrid pays to be almost completely sold out here in the UK both game and shop to have no switches on offer at all while Amazon Amazon does apparently still have a few at the time of writing the only former third party sellers and quite frankly being sold ridiculous prices with US ones being offered roughly seven hundred fifty quit. That's absolutely stupid and you should not making a profit off people's misfortune your bad person. Whoever's doing that so at Forbes's reports during the same in America game stop who was forced to close down and no surprises. Then long pause was for you. I think right now what he second. I'm going to give the dumb award to game stuff. Best buy a completely drawing so they go just seems to be. You know with everything that's going on. We are forced to stay indoors currently in the UK as of last Monday. It's a three week. lock down where you can only go out for a consensual supplies medicine and one exercise a day to hopefully curb and combat the virus outbreak. That is going on. But they go incentives which is sorta everywhere if you are selling a secondhand one. Don't put your price up. Don't be one of those people trying to make a quick buck off other people's misfortune. That's not fair that's wrong. That's disgusting and dirty. I get you know people are doing it because they think they can stop it. Sell IT FOR THE PRICE. That should be sold secondhand. Don't quick buck you. Bunch of holes and lastly pinball wizard Zen studio bring tactical RPG dread nautical to switch this April another game announcement and this was on apple arcade then studios best known for its recent years for games like a pimple ethics. Three has announced dread nautical a horror theme strategy. Pg that's arriving on Nintendo on April twenty ninth so hopefully buds on all this stuff can play a hurricane. Even better is describes a full eight described in full tactical turn based RPG featuring rogue elements and has a charming captivating eerie atmosphere. Who the promises to be one of the most unique video games released in two thousand twenty. Here's a four run down and this is courtesy of intended life. I got a traitor of it. Looks Pretty Cool? The Art Style is pretty funky. And there's nothing wrong with a good tactic lobby. I'll tell you that now this is getting that would run very well on the switch by the art style. It's kind of a again. That shell slated Kansai shaded style of up Vice President of Publishing Mel Cooke Sense. Yours wanted to branch out and prove it was more than just a pin so I had. It's also looking forward to relying its development of freedom and Craig gangs. They WANNA play. Well that's lovely to hear so let's coming out on Nintendo twenty-ninth notes coming out on April twenty nine th not Nintendo to. I don't actually know what that set them. But yet that's that's coming up that's cool also just want to bring your attention to if you have an and if you're listening to this show quite lights. You'd misses that. Intend to shop on the square. Which has ooh ship sail on right now yes? There are some incredible games at a good price. And by just looking at your switch waving switch on my camera cameras even on currently but you've got final fantasy nine eight pounds. Four nine octopus travel if that thing half price twenty four ninety nine for the fancy the best final fantasy and nine hundred thousand nine hundred ten the second best. One fancy at twenty to forty nine. You've got a lot of good prices of gains. Fancy twelve is another good fancy at twenty to forty nine fifty percent of the collection of Mana series as fifty percents off. I think it was like a square inex- star sale everywhere at the minute Hot West is on off. I don't know how much that is on offer for because I've already bought it but it's offer the flame floods four four nine just going to literally off some Games Dragon Quest also offer North Guard thirty percent off and as much more so if you are sitting indoors like myself currently and you're looking for some gains there are some piney good gains on the east shop to get your teeth sunken to for a good price and that is all. I have time for this week. Thank you everyone for joining me. 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Creating Community in Counterculture With Eric Koston | The Dave Chang Show

The Dave Chang Show

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Creating Community in Counterculture With Eric Koston | The Dave Chang Show

"Hey, it's lists Kelly and welcome to the ringer podcast network season. Eight of game of thrones begins this Sunday, which means bench mode game of thrones makes its long awaited return with your resident experts. Mallory Ruben, and Jason Concepcion guiding you through Egypt sewed and get your fix every Sunday night. Chris Ryan joins Mallory and Jason on talk. The thrones Twitter after show recapping each episode throughout the season. So make sure you check out the benchmark podcast on apple or Spotify talk. The thrones on Twitter, and for even more thrones coverage you can head to the rare dot com. Jiang show part of the ringer podcast network. Presented by major Domo media. Today's guest is the great skateboarder. Eric Causton we recorded this during south by south west. This is the last part of the trilogy with ubereats with Tani of outdoor voices Aaron Franklin of Franklin barbecue. And now the great skateboarder Eric Causton. I've known Eric for awhile. Now we were introduced by. Jesse lavar who was running Nike SP Nike skateboarding, and you're going to hear jesse's name a bunch. So if we dropped the name Jesse it's in regards to Jesse who's now started his own business and firm, and he was with Nike for twenty years, and one of the most iconic most important people in sneaker head culture, if you are into such things Eric is widely considered one of the greatest best gape, whereas all time, specifically one of the top streets Gators street skating as I understand is more informal and improvise eight. Versus the Vert ramps. Skater who are more high flying and all about doing the biggest tricks think about Tony hawk versus what air Costin does. Maybe there's some equivalent in food where streets getting is more like this pure, kind of delicious base cooking and Vert skating is like old school fine. Dining or whatever. I I don't really know. Because the funny thing is I don't skateboard not a surprise. I tried it once almost cracked my head open. But I'm not here to talk about actual skating. I'm here because not only in my friends with Eric. And he's a great sort of dining companion. I wanted him to come to south by southwest because I wanted to get some insight into how skateboard culture can give us some insights to the culinary profession. I can imagine whoever listening like, okay, Dave. It was a stretch to talk about football and the run pass offense basketball and efficiency rating in three point shots. And maybe even art with Jerry salt. This is a stretch, and I can totally empathize and understand that this is a total stretch. But I'm going to get a little bit as tier cure because it's something I learned in college that I continue to apply almost everything in life. So I was religion major and one of the things I learned from Howard along. So I did a lot of comparative religion. But really about the philosophy religion. Why people are religious and Howard along was someone that is really important my life, and he took logic classes and a bunch of other things I'm not going to go down this rabbit hole about professor that. None of you guys will ever know a read about, but he impressed upon me. The idea when studying religion don't study, the ancient ones, I you should really deep dive into the modern religions this religions over the past one hundred years where you can see the birth and sort of follow in trace to present day and the human condition the human nature of things. Not really change. So you if you can understand how religion evolved over time within modern time, and we have definitive evidence and documents and TV and tape recordings of how these things happen in my give you not just might. I think it definitely gives you better insight. If you're trying to understand the Dead Sea scrolls or Buddhism or Hinduism or how religion spread couple millennia ago where you don't have access to information to verify certain things. So if you can find that pattern I found it to being credibly helpful in cooking, believe it or not. And as this podcast, particularly in twenty nine thousand nine we've gone down this rabbit hole of trying to find more and more analogies. Metaphors and parallels that are outside the culinary industry. I've always long admired the skateboard industry because I think that the culture skateboarding, and those that have made it into this sort of not just a great business. But quite frankly, a sport and art form that is beauty. And you seen it in mind the gap in the that was nominated for best documentary Jona hill created a great movie called the mid nineties highly recommend you guys to check those out. If you haven't gives you an insight in terms of suburban life, and what it means to express yourself on a skateboard and to be an outsider and for longtime while skateboarding may seem to be sort of mainstream almost these days because of the X games and the commercialization of it. It's still full of people that were iconic not just in scape or culture. But I think that they were instrumental in changing how we view things right? It's sort of trickled down so much fashion. So much of how we market so much of how we think about changing sport in terms of the tricks and all of that, right? Like, that's the stuff that really fascinates me. And history skateboarding is probably what fifty years old tops. Right. I I don't know. Maybe maybe a little bit longer, but it becoming. A relatively significant part of American culture is relatively young and you can go back pretty like nineteen fifties. Or so and accurately sketch out and see the Evelyn of where we are today, which is again, a big business, and it's had ebbs and flows where it's been very popular. And it's been very unpopular and skateboarding to me has always embraced the outsider culture. Right. Sort of the alternative to whatever's mainstream yet they continue to have a rabid fan base. And they're able to communicate with their fans now with social media. But the funny thing is is skateboarding the messaging in the culture of it cross pollinated in ways that I still don't quite understand because there war no websites and social media was through like, skateboarding magazines and just word of mouth, and it's always maintained that in my opinion. I could be wrong, but I wanted to talk to her cost. And so I've known them for awhile again through Jesse. He's a great. Hang and besides trying to make some parallels to food and skateboarding. I think that as a skateboarder itself there's a lot of things that we shifts and cooks in culinary arts can learn from because historically skateboarding was for the young you peaked at a young age. And who knew what happened right? If you washed out at the mid twenties. I don't know if you continue to skateboard, how do you maintain a career if you're supposed to be over at age twenty five or so and what's fascinating about Eric is now that he's in his forties. He's maintained excellence, and he's gotten older, and he's more mature, he's the wily veteran. But along the way outside of skateboarding. He's created several businesses. He's an entrepreneur, he's got a great sense of fashion and style, and he's evolved, and he's become this iconic figure in skateboarding, and I find that to being credibly admirable and something that I want to get to know better. And how it will happen. Because in the Kohner world for America, at least the popularity of it is probably waste shorter. Right. Like only recently in twenty nineteen. Do I feel like cooking is widely accepted and people are younger no more about food than ever before. But as cooks, I'm forty-one, turning forty two and August. And again, I'm feeling my age. I don't think that I'm old. But again, I used to think that this is too old. And it's something I've wrestled with the longtime about your relevance in this profession because we don't know still what happens when your body is sort of completely broken, and you are later in life, and you can't work the line anymore and not everyone is going to be successful. Not everyone is going to be able to have their own restaurant. What do you do? And how do you carve out your life in the culinary arts? And I think we need to be more honest about what's available to better serve the problems in this profession, and when I find. Someone like Eric Costin or Tony hawk in a professional sporting, and they're still relevant and they're still at the top of their field. That's something we need to look at. That's something we need to learn more about because if we can apply some of those things that they've learned into our profession, not only we lengthen our careers. We might be able to better financially prepare for when we can't cook anymore so on and so forth. And that's all is our industries still too young. And I continue to try to look at what else is out there. So that was my big speech. Did it mean to go on such a rant? But I hope you listen to this. Let me just give you another warning the audio again, it was sort of wonky. We were recording ubereats house so Isaac -ly our producer at the ringer is not happy because it's not ideal so apologies because we had some not perfect environment to have crystal clear audio on the recording. We had outsourced did with someone locally in Austin just wound up not being perfect. So apologies. I know how much opinion the ask that can be for people listening in. Secondly, Eric, and I just didn't go to bed the night before I just arrived the night before I hadn't been sleeping at all. Because of the birth of my son, and I had sort of the the day to get to Austin and do this podcast the third one. And when I landed I chose not to go out to meet up with Jesse and Eric and chose to be maybe the best decision I've ever made because they went out they stayed out till I crazy. Late and they wound up just having fun. And we were trying to like catch our breath, quite frankly when the podcast started. So if you really don't wanna hear rambling on about going out and incoherent night out with Eric Causton. Sean Balto great skateboarder, Blake Anderson, the comedian from workaholics and a few other things and the blackouts the DJ's that played music for us that night, and they're they're amazing. They went out I chose now to if you don't wanna hear that you should just skip thirty minutes 'cause there's almost no need. But I found it to be funny. So here Eric go on and on and on about what was essentially a random out in south by southwest. And if you haven't been south by south west, it's essentially like the craziest party for like two weeks. And you know, I've always been curious to what the fuck does escape were actually do when they're not skating. I know they're eating because they're. Great at picking out eating spots wherever they are in the world. So that's a big tip. Followed wear the skateboards go because they know where things are delicious and affordable. So if you don't wanna hear about any of that stuff just skip through the first thirty minutes, and then we can get into sort of the meat of his career. How he got to worry is. And again, I'm not talking about tricks. I'm not talking about skateboard philosophy per se like there's enough of that shit out there. I think I really wanted to know like is thought process and survival in what's next for Eric Causton have talked way too much. I will shut the fuck up. Here is Eric roster. So what happened last night? So you got in yesterday yesterday dot in pretty much came here to this ubereats event space, ROY ROY Choi was doing something with airtran plan. And yeah, had tacos really good. And then and then I think this is fascinating because day in the life of Eric Constan who travels the world over and and experiences the world. I did. That's true. I mean. Yeah. This is one of those things were exciting. You know, what the hell am I doing? Yeah. You're in south by southwest aside from my DIGI Alan cover band performing a hole in the wall venue. Really, no. That would be amazing. No, no here this and. Yeah. But I've never I've never gone to south by southwest Austin, plenty of times, but not for this plenty times for skateboarding tournament, not even tournaments older was one it was actually one one competition here back in the day that MTV did that was it was sky kind of on the heels of like, the the popularity X games. It's only a few years after it started. But then MTV wanted to deal with the called MTV sports and music festival in sporting event. And they had a contest. Yeah. Contest. They really they wanted to like for the street contests, revert avert contests dentistry, contests or those you've heard is the U pipe shape ramp. And then street was you know, simulated Tim United St. spots. But they actually had like a kind of universal studio back lot type setting to like a real. This sort of city, and it kinda try to make it very real meal to the streets. I guess, you know, I I guess the effort was there. You know, the the execution was really poor. But they actually tried which was kinda cool. Okay. But Austin as a city is a good skateboarding sitting. Yeah, why there's good street spots. I mean, it's a good skate parked right here. Much downtown use keyboarding today. I did yesterday sort of skated for like five minutes 'cause I counsel accounts. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly back to what. So like, I got a text message from Jesse. And I saw you across a photo of you across the street talking to some dudes, and they're like, hey, meet us to an par empire pyre. And I just like I'd like to thank Yeager Meister USA for I can't modem. You can't I. I. Yeah. So it was like a man. Clock. And then I I was like, yeah. I gotta catch up with hostile and see Jesse see all these people. And then I was like fuck I haven't seen anything. And I got it bites e took a shower ready to go. And then I thought twice. Yeah. Because then I Don on me. I was like, oh, I have a huge day to day. Yeah. He thought right. Something's going to happen. I should've been thinking what you were thinking in. So what happened post eleven thirty? We just. Yeah. We just stayed there. There was just a lot of drink tickets. Because my friend Tiba who will be who's one half of the blackouts his twin brother they'll be teaching here tonight. I'd like to sank two blackouts off to the bladder other blackouts gonna Tiba Tiba was he was actually doing the takeover for Yeager on their their Instagram. And so that's what he was over there. We met him over there. We just kinda had plenty of drink tickets. And that's kind of how it started then ended and we're trying on marketing Yeager shots and beer highly did a coupla ager shots. 'cause I know where that really goes trying to keep it together. Actually, because I miss will come here in do this, and I didn't want to be a complete pilot shit and that backfired, but I did a couple. But then we went we left that event event closed down. We just went down sixth street, and we found a bar that was like a Jack elope. Like just a pretty much a tourist trap. You know of a bar, and we go in and a bartender recognizes myself almost with Sean Malta, another special skateboarder saw him. Some Blake Anderson workaholics kind of tripping out what he is doing what, you know. Why does he walk in here? So he just starts fees like El Nino happening in those bar. Yeah. 'cause it was kind of like, it's really loud music. But there's like at that point. It was really about a dozen people there. Everyone was probably finished by then, you know, and it was getting to that point where around two o'clock where it's closing. So, but he starts like I'm making you guys shots, and he starts making this like sake on he calls it made with sake. Something else is pretty like pretty light. You know, wasn't super Swede. It was actually a really good shot. But it was a shot. That led him to beers. I've gone out drinking with you drinking beer with. You is excellent. Yeah. Fiercer Modell with Dell's Loma del like saying Medalla. No. Nobody else. I loaned it else. Yes. There are no Modell is what are you drinking Lone Star star? Yeah. The Texas the beard, an Talboys, we can we can we have a conversation about Tallboy Talboys divergent conversation about day in the life. The night at the lives, lyric constant. What is the point of tomboy? I love it like eight ounce cans. Yeah. One and Kony's I wanna cold. Yeah. What's the point with? I don't know who likes to tall. But I guess it's it's more bang for your buck. And some will say, you know, if it's getting warm, which that's my problem. That's the flaw on Tallboy by like the last quarter of it is all warm in their own Kuzin asked. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta you gotta bring a Cousy. But that's I mean realities like if it's getting warm, you're not drinking it fast enough, really. Again, I want to know if anyone has information about the creator of the Tallboy I wanna fuck because it's not like getting a extra French fries at like, Donald or something. This is like, yeah, I'm ponies to me should be the bottle size of choice. Eight six to eight ounces. Yeah. Exactly. It's cold and good. I don't know. Do you think other people have the same problem with boy, I wanna know if somewhat this is one of those things is someone actually likes Tallboy? That's an interesting conversation. I wanna know what that a few weeks. I'm sure because they make a lot of them. Yeah. I mean. Yeah, we'll bang for your buck. It's more drunk in a lot of tomboys my life one hundred percents. But I the worst part of the beer is the warm. Yeah. The bona feel like, oh, maybe a wimp because like someone's drinking fascinating true. True. Okay. Anyway, the reason back to the tall boys in this bar. You were leaving you said something. Relenting it relieving we're leaving and going back to the hotel and the bar, but you're leaving bars. You're drinking a lot of tomboys. But you're leaving them like how fully at see exactly the most fascinating bit of information. I gleaned all day, especially when they're free drink tickets. It's like, okay. Well, I'll just drink the altering the twelve ounces. And then when you hit that seem wears are. But if you are a beer drinker. Yeah. Was a smart move. Yeah. Exactly. I was enjoying it more about savoring it, right? And then you leave the bar leave the bar then go where hotel. Hotel. You're saying his hotel. But when we leave the bar, the mighty VAR tender friend from the Jack lope was a Jack lope. Yeah. Total doesn't matter. It's just what they call the thing. Yeah. Jacqueline he shelves like a giant bottle of sake in to my hoodie pocket. Pouch pocket front. It could be the junk low, but could be another bar could be somewhere. It'd be somewhere. His memories foggy here. We don't really know if it was the jock elope it could be a number of bars in the Austin area on six street. That's for sure. So. Yeah, talk about. Yeah. And so then how many beers? Now. Do you think you consume? I I think the world of air fans wanna know, really. I think y'all know I they wanna including so two two numbers here. One of the number of total cans versus actual amount yet total Kansas the actual kiss. That's the thing. None of them. I finished. I was that day. So how many soldiers all over the place north of twelve? I had one. No, not twelve. I don't think about I think maybe rounds close to that. Maybe. Cantwell. Ten ghettoish name probably drink half of each one. So yeah. Yeah. Six years. Yeah. And then you had a couple of shots. Yeah. And now you have a ball of soccer headed back to the hotel with Tiba multo in than Blake Anderson. Then when you use we go back to Tebas room. And then we start way drinking sake passing around a bottle sake. Why really terrible idea? But that's the point. That's that point where you're like. It's just whatever hotel in the morning, it's too because it was bars close says after two and then but Blake was pretty good is real good. And so he was he was just wrestling with us. We'd had like thrust the wanted to wrestle was pretty sweet Dede's wrestling in hotel room. It's dot was but night it ended with wrestling. Yeah. Like will try to keep him down flakes pretty these pretty ripped. Actually, he's like works out shit. Guys, like he's like fucking buff, and Mike we, but you guys are professional athletes. Yeah. We we took them down. We got him. But what kind of is this a like grabbing just brat bling? I don't know. It makes martial artists. I guess who is the best wrestler of the bunch bike. No, no. I mean, I spent most of it laughing at a Tiba because he kept going after a Tiba Tiba actually put them down. But you guys huffing and puffing. You're pretty tired rest our tired wrestling. And then. Yeah, that was an end might also which kicked in your in bed. And then this morning Jesse was like we ought to get Veracruz tacos, and we were supposed to meet up, but you're still in bed. And then you finally met us after we order way to goes around eleven o'clock. Did you order twenty six talking? We were twenty four talk on floor eighteen egg potato Theresa talk. Goes to more of those with cheese four MIA'S. So those twenty four in one case a DEA with not had the past door. Yeah. Of all the delicious things. And by the way, they must have sent at least twenty more tacos, I think so because we only order twenty four tacos that pastor case. It was really good. And I heard a terrible news that they are forced to move. Did. You know, this fair has to move because of the rent or something on the land L the land LAN excel, but they can move. They can move. They are in a bus the most important thing. I learned today was the fact that the pastor case DEA is maybe the secret jewel of the whole menu. Yeah. I mean, I know the Migas is like the Soviet, but it was really good very odd that that that case a DEA it was sitting in its own Greece to perfect perfect that base coat that kinda help. I thought that was going to be very very powerful and like medicinal for you. It helped. So it's like book, it's almost six o'clock. I gotta help cook this dinner, right? And you're here, and I'm still full for meeting this and that gives us to present deck where we're at. So if he sounding a little under the weather, it's because he had a fun night. This is a typical night of a professional skateboarder on fat. Is it typical now? I mean, we'll I honestly NB what people are considering. It was like what the fuck do. You guys do of an escape because it seems to me that the whole life of the escaping order is maybe just joined turning. Yeah. I mean, it can be for some guys or sure it was for you for a while. Yeah. Definitely. I mean, I I have a family. I have a wife and two kids said, you know. Seven and a nine year old. So it can't be like that. I mean, I'm here at south by southwest. Yeah. Let's friends really quickly out tomorrow morning, seven AM. But like see I'm gonna have some fun. But yes, I can't do that. I don't do that at home. Split. Yes. A skateboarder can do that. But what do they do? What do you? What do you first of all let's have all that stuff family and the? A a single dude going town to town. This is what I would imagine is normal. Mutt? Right. Yeah. Kinda was. Yeah. For the most part not it wouldn't be every night. But the younger you are the easier. It is bounce back in the morning. You know, go skate skate a contest, I've done it. Have you one contrast one an execution of nuclear hangover, Hugh, these these ran David Wells being walked out drunk and throwing a perfect game. Yeah. My friend Aaron his wedding. It was up in which was on a Saturday. And then the next day was the next games in L A. So it is wedding the wedding party hanging with his dad and his dad's like best friend who were drinking like a really a really nice to Keila. I don't even remember the name of it. Three of us. Just drinking out of the bottle at this moment, or you're like I have a competition a cat to get up like six AM fly back down Ella? It's our flight. But back till a like get some breakfast, pull my shit together. And go skate a contest escape next games. Can we what year so we can go to? This footage. I don't know like two thousand maybe three or four, and you feel total ass. Yeah. Shot that you wanted. Yeah. Yeah. I was surprised I could like skate. I was really is really surprise. I could actually do tricks in land them consistently which again, but sometimes they just. Yeah. It happens. You know? But I don't recommend that by any means. But yes, but you have been in the industry long enough where you've seen multiple generations flows in the interests in popularity escape boarding. Yeah. From the very high of the high to the low the lows. Yes. I'm mostly fascinated about the lifestyle. You guys live on skateboarder. Right. But I appreciate the lifestyle in the in the way, you guys look at culture in can mix and match and take from whatever and call it your own because it's always been on the outside looking in. Yeah. A little bit, and it's your own counterculture. And I love that ship. Yeah. And I'm one I would just was like man like, I bet you other people would want to know what that lifestyle is like because you've told me a couple of times when did you turn pro in nineteen Ninety-one you are howled sixteen. When did, you know, you're better than everyone else pretty early on in Halloween anymore tonight? Oh, I didn't wanna turn fro when I turned fro. Why does she just kind of an interesting situation? The sponsor that I was with a company called h street. That was my first sports sponsor in h street. There was it was a huge team. And one of the guys that ran the company. This guy might turn Ascii cherry picked like the cream of the crop from them from eight street start his own company called plan b in. He I was at this contest. Also with my friend at Garrett who is the one who helped me get sponsored by St. he skated freight's shoot as well. We were at this contest in San Francisco, which was a pro contest, but I had been skating these amateur conscious back in the day. If you did well amateur contest, you're kinda ready to make that next. It was actually competition that which sent you to the sort of next level. And how did you find out about these competitions like what other internet will? They were. It's just known. Yeah. I guess how is. Is known there'd be a schedule because like a people that sanctioned the events would have, you know, full year schedule like what's contests are where I guess how do we know? Yeah. Mail magazines phone calls. And then you'd been skateboarding for how many years, then we started. However, we. Eighty six. So you're what? Yeah. Been skating for five years. Yes. Yeah. Who introduced you to skateboard? My my brother, my older, brother. He him and his friends you immediately better than though I wanted she. I just wanted to do what they're doing because it looks like fun. It took a minute delay get things figured out and get sort of comfortable, but and then I started then he kinda got out skating. And so I started skating with like older friends guys that were like fifteen sixteen when I was like eleven twelve issue. No, like older dudes, do the hat could drive in had cars and were better side think escaped with older guys that were good in like to me, you know, in my eyes, and I think that may be helped me sort of or stern grow and keep up ahead to like keep up in in around the late eighties or so whereas skating in in national popularity global pop. Is at a peak. Or is it a on one of the downturns when I started. Yeah. Oh, it was huge the mid eighties is pretty big. 'cause you this is the power Peralta out for all to vision. All the guys from that time, our they're huge. They're like they were like superstars. And there weren't as many pros like nowadays. Hundreds hundreds thousands back then there was the top elite guys are like was like thirty or something. It was huge you flew back. The sort of the forefathers of your profession as like they could have done. What you what's current day? Like tricks and stuff like that. Or is it just is it like watching football or basketball? You're like, that's cool. But man like, yeah. No. I mean, they're still our guys that that I did look like Marken Zola's. He's one who still can do things that are really unique in he's in my eyes is like the guy who really like took street skating to this, you know, completely other level just because how creative he was. And he's still around, you know, Tony hawk another guy still ripping so it I mean, yes, they're older. I'm older. You know, it's it is I guess in some ways not quite like washing like old school basketball, but I guess to some degree. Yeah. Similar to that. But it's still it's weird. Because they're you know, they're still doing it. Right. Or really well. And he didn't think we didn't think we're younger seek those guys. Also didn't think when they're younger they thought, you know, like their mid twenties or done I used to be the same. It was why wasn't always the mid twenties in your done will because you would see guys at work really good prose, kind of disappear kinda just thought that like, you know, they see somebody else. Is it like a little bit better? And they felt like all that's it. I'm gonna I'm done so back then was sort of like being a gymnast link gymnasts like the cruise over like twenty five. Yeah. It was exactly like that. So you started in the Pecos skateboarding. And if you're gonna look at skateboarding eras that is one of the most important times for skateboarding. Right. That's one guy critical mass, right? Yeah. And skateboarders are starting their own companies yell a lot of lot of those guys. They were all with these huge brands in late eighties early nineties is right when it bottomed out pretty hard and those guys they left their sponsors. They started their own companies like or they were just they just left got a job doing something out. You know outside a skateboard. They just left maybe they still skated. But there were like, I I can't do this as a job in this is not a career anymore too old. So then yeah. A lot of those guys started breaking off. Off pal thrall to started to crumble that was a huge thing, you know, huge huge brand. And it's like all these guys left started their own companies, so creation destruction creation destruction. Yeah. So the mid nineties era the nineties is considered what in skateboarding them. Back. Now, very back. A lot happened in the nineties, but in popularity was it was super low. It went from really bad. You know, like nobody we so you'd be crazy this year. Like, we looked like ravers, you know, in like at the peak is like the rave era day pro at the like the lowest low in it started to get real low, very low. That's cool. Yeah. No one can say that. No, no money, but you know, like making some money. So I was like great care in in some when you throw it sixteen then in the in the nineties what's your lifestyle? Like are you living at home or you on the road? All ended up moving into eighth street had this house where like a lot of the riders. They all lived at. There was a room there in moved into that place interest because I wanted to skate in film doing a video that's a lot. You know, skaters do they do the film video parts too? That's another way to sort of moat yourself more like a highlight reel in its competition to end there's competition, but the video itself is competition. Right because you're trying to it's. Yeah. It's a personal one. Usually because you're always trying to do stuff that you have done before you're going to find on your own use trial now right around this time when you're let eighteen nineteen twenty or a you like this is how I'm gonna do it. Yeah. Also the types of tricks. It went through different areas and stuff is like now, it's not like that. Now, you can people can go back in pull from sort of this catalogue of the past and skate a specific way it you'll see the influence of somebody from some certain era, but I went through it all it warrior. Yeah. Like skating, slow small wheels, really technical horrible looking tricks. That was just us. Just trying to do the hardest trick possibly to care. It looked. To the like that started at one started to scale a little bit faster in those tricks started to clean themselves up, and you wanna do higher smoother catch them in in the most technical thing wasn't the most doesn't mean. It's the best thing because it could look like shit. That's fascinated. Yeah. It's like, oh, that's an amazing trick. But if a guy's like does it horribly it. He knows very subjective. But you have your own tastes. And if you see something, that's gross. If you like you, I you I it's cool trick. We'll be right back after word from our sponsors. Brilliant earth is the global leader in ethically source fine, jewelry, create your own customer engagement ring right on the website. But picking from a variety of F source. Diamonds gemstones metal type in settings brilliant earth. Also offers wedding rings, vintage pieces and many other handcrafted jewelry items with exclusive unique designs you can't find anywhere else. 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So tricks were still being discovered. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Everything's impossible yet. You're good at an early nineties URS tricks to like getting invented, you know, like or combinations to a lot of it was more or less combinations. At that point. So you'll like technical tricks mix, you know, fly in grinds in not same with on on Vert guys flipping their boards more. They took street to ver-. So as a skater, do you have to choose between trade in Vert around the now, I mean, you kind of do just based on what's acceptable to you? When I grew up skating like in the eighties did everything. So you just skated, and he didn't really like kind of on the street skater, I'm Vert skater. But eventually, you guys people started who's their path of what they're, you know, they they're they're Forte's. I grew up in a time where. Yeah, you did. It all is that like, I you know, I used to skate Vert a lot. But then street skating just. Became more of the the thing. I just didn't you don't have avert rant nearby. How you gonna gave her is this sort of like how today when we played sports as kids he played everything. Right. And now when I see like my niece or nephew. They only play one sport. Yeah. Idiot so focused pretty early on. I don't know if that's fucking applicable, but now now in the late nineties skating gets popular yet. Right. And you're not names starts they jump in at sort of what you think of what you think of the first X games when it happened. I didn't actually go to the first one. I I I remember hearing about it on like what the fuck is this. I now I'm not gonna that. And then I saw, you know, photos and footage from it. Like holy shit that looked pretty harsh. And so I'm like, but fuck it. I'm going to go to the next one. And I went to the next one and like. It is usually like, whoa. Could you just mixing it all together? Here's action sports. And we're all this, you know, and it's just big Chituwo. Like like, a kind of you know, it's like a music festival. But it's instead of it's all these extreme sports. Right. So I guess as a skater like we're not like those other dudes that are gonna whatever else it is over like, we're skater see. So we I guess there was some skepticism of like, yeah. And it's ESPN straight. Yeah. It it felt so loutish you. Yeah. All sorts of things. Yeah. You're doing something for ESPN. They never did anything for skating us skaters were always like protective. When did it switch when be like, this is good for our industry? When did switch when people that didn't skate were were buying into the lifestyle. Just like surfing that was supporting us. You know, we're making money from people that don't skate, and it's like the cap is only so much with your core skate customer. Guys, like make a living off the skateboard, Amy. We need people that wanted to commute along longer market, man, whom are are shit. Yeah. Exactly. And so that brought it to the average Joe on his couch. You know, prime time like sports television time, you know, when people are sitting on the couch and then also Tony Hawkes game area. Fucking awesome. That also those two things isn't good at point really than anybody could skate their hands in a learned. They learned all the tricks. They knew the vocabulary in skated all did you play the game. Yeah. I played it. The second one was definitely like my favorite, but I wasn't super video games. So the year two thousand how old are you? Now. Yeah. The pink of your powers that you developed your style and tricks that you've done and you have a ton of videos out and people are like you're the fuck man by then. Yeah, chi. Yes hiding that was in the game to that help. Hell that's the L is like all that together. Yeah. A being Tony's game like waiting some X games out this video hard as it with kinda peer group, though. That's what was what was interesting to Maui was like, the how do you remain friends in? What is ultimately like a haven't have not business? Yeah. You know, some people are competitive something like a lot of skaters aren't like that jealous or they hide it, really. Well, I've always been I want everybody to succeed if I'm getting any sort of success. I want to you know, bring the crew, and that's what Donald smarter general. Yeah. And that is in general, obviously, there's people that are selfish. But a lot of them are not that's one of the. Things about skateboard. He's like you do it with a crew friends. And that's a lot is a lot of time spent together all the stuff not skating too. You know, you these your broS ins you wanna you want them to have success just like travelling around eating drinking going out to the bars the whole nine. Yeah. Ending. How you guys you're your getting is gaining. How you guys keeping your heads on straight 'cause I've seen a law. Yeah. We we lost some dudes, man. I guys getting the drugs. They get taught me how to train and the train for that shit like helpful. If you have friends around you that help in you get you through it. Then guys can get I feel like, yeah, they have a right sport group. You can get through it. You know, you gotta know when to like, you can have fun. But you you got to also realize that's like that doesn't last forever. I guess I always if you had that in the back of minor always looking at waiting to because I like. That's how I've always approached. Unlike this kid, go this could go this could be done. You know, I'm gonna get to gotta get ready for what it's like life after. But it just keeps going so when you're in the United twenties, and you're reaching the age where you thought in the like ten years before this is when you're out of the business, you're still in it. Are you like what the fuck is happening? Yeah. This is real. No. You're just like, oh, well, I'm gonna I need to create some opportunities. That'll that'll keep me in this for when I can't skate or when I'm not going be, you know, like I love what I do. So I wanna be a part of this industry for forever. Silly. You just start juggling shit. Figuring out opportunities to keep you in in on. That's word went. 'cause you always gotta be ready cause I gotta remember like that early nineties and. Yeah. Made three hundred dollars a month. But I mean, I could live through that month. But that I made that work now you have a family just for. Yeah. I got I got private school and shit. Tuition and the skating still like rising in popularity from the beginning of names. I think it's still it's you know, it's it's Olympic four. Now. It's an Olympic sport. You know? It's like, you know, some guys may hate it. Some people may love it. It's going to the Olympics. Which is crazy. It's pretty funny. Right. I think it's great though. I don't, you know, some people think it's gonna get it's just gonna be more commercial lovable. But it is. But that's the thing. It's well, at least it's growing in guys at don't wanna be a part of that. At least they can helpfully survive in navy. You know, some peripheral kickback from it that popularity can let them keep it in their core way, they could survive it can help them. Even the guy. That's hates it. Now. So with business changing to orange aging and continuing to grow, and you figured out now how to build your own brand and business mentors. We don't have to get all that shit. But like as you got older are are you like, wait. I'm worried about the younger competition. There are these trying to always find relevance is like in my profession. I'm always looking at the younger generation being like, our I can still do this. They can do that. I can do this. Yeah. A little bit wiser. Yeah. I'm definitely aware of the younger generation better than ever before. Yeah. Loss because they've seen it all the different, you know, time as being born. When I like I landed a trick that they're like, you know, they seem years later. They're like born that year. You know, like I see now that are pro you're like, Dirk Nowitzki. Choline just just. Yeah. Exactly. Like, derek. Yeah. I'm Derek just lumbering up the court still got three pointer my back pocket, but. Yeah. Do you think you're a better skater now than you are in your late twenties physically? Can you do things? They definitely know what changed sides getting older like just getting older like in your late twenties. That's what I see a lot of guys like the guys that have been around for a while to where they sort of peak. It wasn't you know, like these guys with the pros when I looked up to in their in their like early twenties or something, you know, it's like now guys in their late twenties, even thirty you know, like I see what they actually really have their their maximum potential and power and skill. So sorta like them be like most rookies the at four year. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's guys that are good in the like even a now that are super young. But unlike they're still going to grow into like, they can keep it up. They stay healthy by Dangelo. Russell. Yeah. Not right. I mean, he was a Laker. I didn't think I I honestly didn't really see that. He would you could see that he could. But I didn't see it coming that fast. But I think going Brooklyn really hit a jump into that driver's seat real quick and got the same way with getting that there is a cause I talk about this. Because I as a cook, I'm always infatuated to my own arose about when are you at the peak of your powers, not saying like your most creative per se. But like there seems to be in many professions that are creative a moment when you don't know enough, but you believe you can do anything, and that's a fucking magical combination to try new shit out. Yeah. But now as a Wiesel veteran like, you know, too much shit. So it's hard to just do stupid shit all the time. Yeah. It's it's true. Yeah. And so the United States I have the mentality is like, yeah. Already did that I want to try to do something else. So you really want to try something? Like, I want to challenge myself. In. How are you telling yourself now in ways because now you're not inventing new tricks all the time? Now, are you? Are you trying to? With their new to invent yet. They're still there is still. Yes, he can't say there is not there's there's always a percentage wise, it's going to be far far less because so many things have been none. Yes. It's more of just like I said the combinations of stuff now that things are getting done just bigger longer higher. So you're crafty veteran, you're more Chris Paul day thing Chris Paul on New Orleans. Yeah. Yeah. I guess so I would say, yeah. But I q and you've seen every fucking angle and yeeha. Exactly. Yeah. I've seen a lot now. Now, though. What what am living just all the experience giving you the long jeopardy because you you're still contributing to the skateboarding profession and culture in ways that many of your peers haven't right like what gives you the advantage out. Yeah. May. Because of also what I've lived in all the experience is because of paranoia to. I'll probably yeah. What's around the corner is not good? Yeah. I guess keep working just in case, you should it doesn't work out. Okay. I to talk to you forever. If I sort of conversation like this over beers. But I'm fascinated by this because weirdly enough enough talk to Jesse not this the two very different things as I trying to compare everything food anything how the counterculture skating has evolved in the flow of it over the years. There's gotta be some the learn from from the culinary perspective. Because for a long time cooking was the least cool profession. It was like Dan someone like on joining the army. You know, when people are what like what are you doing? That's the dumbest thing I could possibly here. And then it's become cool and very few people making the top very few people are able to make a good living out of it. You've had a lot of people that say I won't do that. That's a sell out. You know on one hundred percent people are Dave. You're fucker sell it. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah. I I understand your point of view. I'd probably would have said the same thing. Yeah. At a similar point of view. And I. Have studied what's been going on in your profession because that's gotta be. That's very similar to me. Yeah. All I wanna do is. I love the industry. I also hate it. But I also worried about what's going to happen. And I just wanna when the music stops. I always want to make sure that I have a chair. Yeah. Totally. I think that's I think that's what kept me going, and how many it is. So similar yelling you more. Because it's a it's a personal thing. But how you probably trying to figure out how to create some tastes better. You know, what you're thinking of something new different. How do we make this better? But the way you guys when I say, you guys skating culture in parts, particularly professionals, keyboard culture, because you've been able to travel the fucking world and you see shit, but no one scene at a really young age. And it's not like you're sitting at a desk working for the man, you're doing something amazing in it's fun. You're getting paid to do it. You're expressing yourself. You're creating you're having fun. You're learning like that's a crazy way to view the world. And I think that all adds up to how you guys are able to market how you guys are able to create a culture that's always like three or four steps ahead of the rest of the fucking world. And how you seek things. Like when you guys were hosting that party last year. And you guys showed me that that crazy DeLorean video. I don't remember rural at like, you guys hosted some party, and there was no fucking advertising about it whatsoever. But you knew it was going to be completely sold out in his all text message. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes. That and your Tony this, and I'm like fucking genius of how you're explain this because you're not trying to promote to everyone. You're trying to promote directly to the people that care. Yeah. And I was like that's a difficult thing for a lot of people understand. I feel like as a cook. Someone that's in this profession. I think that's a lot. We can learn from because we're sometimes cooking for too many kinds of people. We just need to be cooking for the people that fucking care. Yeah. Like everyone in the app fucked. Hopefully, everybody else falls, you know, they don't they don't have shit. Yeah. Exactly. Because like it's going to be cool again and won't be cool. Again. I gotta take care of my own. Yeah. I don't want to do the things I wanna do. You do stuff for other people that you're not happy about doing it you. Yeah. You you feel it. Right. They look at yourself in the mirror like 'em now should know road for that company for that money. But I did it. I feel dirty. Yeah. I've done it. You know, and it's often stupid pitches for katie's in. It's like you can't lie to yourself. But if you live and learn, and I anything that we can learn from, you know, it's very rare that you can see something in the world today, in my opinion that you can see the beginning. Genesis of it and to current day and see the whole arc much like skaters today that are starting out can look at the whole vast array of tricks in pick and choose even if you're not a cook. It's I think skating culture should be understood a little bit better because you guys have been so far ahead of the fucking car. It's weird. Yeah. I I don't know if people will, you know, ever grasp that, but I don't I don't I think we. Just learn how to be self sustainable. I guess, you know, that's all that matters. That's what we've especially the guys from that have gone through that have been around a while in con- gone through the different eras of skating. It seen it, you know, it makes us more resilient also. Because we're yeah, we're stubborn too. We're going to like punish ourselves until we get that satisfaction landing trick. But you're not beat our bodies thinking about how to promote something. So one hundred percent of the population's gonna like. Yeah. And it's weird because I think a lot of sometimes I feel like guilty of this. But a lot of chefs cooks that are opening up concepts the trying to make it for everyone. Yeah. I cannot get over the fact that like skateboarding has remained very vibrant because you're just trying to make a certain group of people happy. Can't fuck everyone else. Yeah. That's pretty much it. They were. Yeah. It is. It is pretty much it. Yeah. I mean, we that's what you're saying that travel stuff young age, you know, it's like the best education travelling in learning different cultures in understanding, what people think in different places in lie in what trying different like just being out of your element. That's what you guys are like you. Learn so much in. Yeah. You become much more. You guys are the best designers out there. You know, you guys nowhere the foods out to the elderly would. That's people don't realize I learned him might older age. Yeah. Oh way. We we gotta they gotta tell us. We got to end this. But I always started off with the the drinking. But I want that full circle. It's not just like random nights of having fun. Like accumulation of nights. Like that. Teach. You fuck a lot of shit that to learn not not act up. I acted up that night. I got my ass kicked or something. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that again or. That's just a night out. That's random and dumb. You wasted time. Like, I actually don't believe that at all. No now, if you look at it one night, maybe, but if we're still time like it's going to be a good memory, something, you know, is fun to authors. I mean, you know, what? I'm not a skater. But like when I've been around with you, and there people that they're like, oh my God. You're hanging out with air kosten. Holy fucking shit. He's like the fucking ground skateboarding. It's it's like it's amazing to see that. And how people can feel and how you've been able to be relevant over all these years. Ultimately, just being you to right like that's fucking RAD. Yeah. Good. Can't complain. Good. Good job to have or sure, you know, good job. Let your children become skateboarders. Well, that was my conversation with Eric Causton started out rambling. I think we finished strong. Thank you to ubereats for allowing us to great podcasts. Thank you listeners for supporting us. Give us five stars. However, you rate this podcast Stitcher Spotify. Apple you name it. I'm back in New York. I just got back from the masters. You should be able to see something the next couple of days that we we worked on and I'm going to get back to the masters so actually see the round on Friday and Saturday, I got a hall pass to do this for work. So thank you to my wife, or let me do something that was technically work, but also incredible. And I was down in Augusta Georgia at the masters. I don't even know how it happened, quite frankly. But I was there for a Sunday Monday. I didn't get to see the women's Amador. Round which I've been told is one of the great rounds of golf that's ever been played. And it was something that everyone on the grounds were still talking about. But I had sort of insider access and excited for you guys to see the footage when we release it. I'm not sure when but it should happen during the the actual tournament itself with begins tomorrow today, which is going to air so Thursday, but I so much to say about the masters, but the one thing I will talk about besides the food and besides the greens, and the beauty of it all in the pageantry and the tradition. Wow. The it's just something that I never anticipated to be as awesome as it was is really one of the great sporting events. If not the best sporting event, you could go to and I'm not even sure why. But I have to unpack it all. But the one thing I wanted to talk about at the masters is the fact that there's no cellphones is very strict if you whip out a cellphone you will be removed from. The properties, and you will be banned forever. And it's amazing. How Augusta National has been able to become iconoclastic by sort of listening to their own rules and doing what they do. And one of the things that they've learned is to not allow modern technology on the golf course from fans. It is the best behaved fans I've ever seen the best dressed fans I've ever seen and amazingly with two dollar beers. They're just not my crazy drunk, and it's about getting the experience. Right. Not everyone gets the go. The the tickets are expensive, and you can't just get them because it's a lottery system, and there's a lot of sort of barriers of entry to begin with. But I'm never seen like thirty thousand people on their best behavior. It's like we were all going to church with grandma, and we're gonna get dinner right after service. It was that kind of can't screw this up. God, I gotta be on my best behaviour, no running. No. No, no doing it. Anything out of the norm. And again like part of the charm about Augusta is maintaining this tradition. That's gone all the way back to the beginnings with Bobby Locke who was an amateur and help to design Augusta National so without talking too much about golf, and how this might relate to actual food and cooking is the fact that they re refuse cell phones. There's no photos nothing you can take photos on real cameras, but they have to be like a real camera not on a cell phone. So they're forbidden, and I gotta tell you. I know Bill Simmons talked about this last year when he went down with his father, the lack of communication. It's it's really hard to get around to meet people. You know, that's one thing that I forgot about like this. How used to grow up like, hey, meet next that hill next to the tree in and so on and so forth at three o'clock. And you just did it and you found that getting around and meeting with people was almost impossible. But you know, what I wonder what it must have been my. Where we this impatient. Like, pre cell phone technology. Like, I I don't think so we just made it happen, especially if you're gonna meet your friends like you just made it happen. And the other thing that relates to two restaurants is more and more people are trying to have the discussion. Do we have a discussion with the guests to encourage them to remove their cell phones from the tables, you know, like, I know some comedy shows or if you go to move for near and they want to like, protect the content. They make you put your phone into a pouch, and you can pick it up when you leave. And again like it was so refreshing. I would say like seventy percent of the people must have loved. I think loved not having a phone. I did and in almost caused you to be in the moment in Meiji, like smell, the flowers and appreciate the beauty of the course, and the deliciousness of parental cheese sandwich and the beer that you're sharing with your friend and to be in the MoMA. To have this intimacy with your friends or or yourself or just to be in like a manicured part of nature. Right. Like for one. Obviously, I think there's too many golf course in the world. But like, this is the one exception, right? Like it's stunning. And I think we need more of that. I do and I wonder how we can do that in restaurants. I was a big proponent of not having cameras when we opened up Momofuku co in two thousand eight because then we still didn't have cell phone technology that allowed you to have cameras people were still setting up giant cameras in interrupting the dining experience by flashes. And it was almost like a photo shoot with food, and it was a restaurant. So we just banned it because like it was annoying. And I am one that takes photos of everything. Now. Right. Like, I do it to sort of remember not to like show anyone, and what does not sure I I show it on Instagram or something like that. But how do you? You get back to a dining experience where you are enjoying the food and having conversation with your friends, I'm not doing a good job of explaining what it feels like to be an Augusta National without a cell phone it forces you to be present. And I love that. And you know, I'm really debating like how do you? How do you do that? How do you bring that back to a restaurant without feeling like you're prohibiting or you're you're taking away sort of civil liberties or someone or sounding like this restaurant is too self important. Right. Like, that's that's really the risk. You you have to way of trying to ensure great customer experience. First of all you have to deliver on it. But Secondly, like the customer may not want them the customer might have joy taken photos. So like, I don't have an answer to that. All I want to start to have a better discussion on his how do we go back to a dining experience? Where there's no photos of the food and no one's whipping out their phone to check an Email and nostalgia a funny fucking thing. 'cause I'm wondering was dining better back. Then even if the food wasn't better because I think eating today's better than ever before. But like, we're dining experiences better. Because you're in the moment with another person, right? And you at to sort of create everything that was there. There was no way out. So that's my two cents. That's it. I I've talked away too much. Give us five stars on. However, you rate this apple itunes, Spotify, Stitcher. Thank you again for your support. And stay tuned next week. Appreciate a guys these.

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June 14, 2019: Bill Gates On Tech And Privacy; Trump Blames Iran For Tanker Attack

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June 14, 2019: Bill Gates On Tech And Privacy; Trump Blames Iran For Tanker Attack

"This message comes from here and now sponsor indeed. If you're hiring with indeed, you can post a job in minutes. Set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard. Get started at indeed dot com slash NPR podcast. President Trump says Iran did it. He says, Iran carried out the attack onto oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman, yesterday. The president made the statement during a nearly fifty minute interview on FOX and friends this morning. You're no they did it because you saw the boat. I guess one of the mines didn't explode, and it's probably got essentially Iran written all over it. And you saw the boat at night, trying to take to mine off, and successfully took the mind off the vote, and that was exposed. And that was that was Dan, President Trump is referring to rather grainy video released by the US military that purportedly shows Iranian special forces, removing and unexploded mind from the side of one of the damaged oil, tankers, Assan Ruhani, Iran's president denied that Tehran had anything to do with the attacks Jim Walsh is here now security analyst. He's with us acuity studies program at MIT. Hello, jim. You're gonna be with you. So set this up for us, what exactly happened between these two tankers? In the Gulf, and what led up to it. Well, what happened is we've had two attackers from two different countries. That were disabled by mines now there's still some dispute about that. The Japanese owner of one of the tankers said that he believed based on, I witness testimony from his staff, that a shell or projectile of some kind had a hit his ship, and there's a debate, you know, could it be torpedo was it a floating? Mine was an attach mine. I mean, the video sort of suggests that if the video was real that it's an attachment. So we've had two tankers disabled, no one killed no one injured the but this isn't a broader context, you'll remember few weeks ago, another couple of tankers were attacked. And then really the starting point for all this, if we really are trying to get to the origins, is it the US adopted a policy. President Trump's policy of maximum pressure, including trying to drive Iran's oil exports to zero the president's trying to strangle, Iran economically destroy its economy and surprise. Prize rather than simply lying on the ground in saying, kick me, again, you know, it may be that Iran is pushing back now it may be that, there are others who are responsible for this is a so called false flag operation. But I just don't think you know, we have enough information to be able to assess that at this point. But if these two tankers neither of these tankers were flagged to the United States. So why would Iran want to attack to d- had nothing to do with Donald Trump presumably, of course? So the, the reason is that Iran has said for again, if it is Iran, Iran set for some time that if it's denied the ability to export oil on the Persian Gulf, then no one is going to be able to export. These are their words not mine. And it's a way for them to sort of raise the cost of this maximum pressure policy, that's being enforced upon them by trying to basically scuttle or at least interrupted any kind of oil flow. I mean in some ways this is like a fight, you know, at a sporting event, some guy throws a punch the other guy retaliates the recipes sees the guy retaliating and calls the foul. Now, of course, no one should be punching anyone and no one should be killed, you know, hurting tankers in the Gulf. But the reason why we are here in the first place is that we're trying to deny Iran, any ability to export its main the backbone of its economy, which is oil. Well, in the case of sports is usually a pretty good quality video in this case, there is a rather grainy video, which you have seen does tell us anything, you know, I don't think it tells you that much. It is grainy. You can't really tell the density of the people I mean you know if it was a false flag. Again, I've some doubts about this. You know, people would be in a boat in uniform that were of the country. They were trying to implicate. It's weirdly cropped. It's sort of starts way you know, we don't see the bona coming. We only see the video of someone trying to remove something. And then we don't see where the boat goes afterwards. So hardly conclusive, but I. I would urge our listeners to to not focus on this. This is sort of the equivalent of a horse race coverage for politics who's ahead who's behind in this case, it's the who done it who, who is responsible for this. And we have this exciting grainy video, this is a distraction. The question is not who the question is, why, why is this happening and it's happening because we're pursuing a policy that's intended to strangle, Iran. Iran is pushing back and if we continue down this path, we're going to end up in yet another war in the Middle East. That's the big question. Why are we doing this? So I wonder if you can answer that, because at the same time that the president is blaming Iran. He's also talking about negotiating with Iran. So he's gone back and forth on this. Right. I when he announced these pointing out of the deal where we wanted to go ship. We're, we're not ready to do it then a couple of weeks ago when we had a couple of incidents. He said, call me, you know, he gave out his phone numbers at call me imagine you're in a relationship a business relationship, a family relationship. Integration ship, and you have a commitment with someone. And that's the person walks out on the commitment and not only walks out insults. You threatens you hurt. You threatens your allies and tries to steal all the money out of your Bank account, and then they say, call me come for dinner. Yeah. I mean, do you think the United States, the President Trump wants a military confrontation with the rum? I don't think the president has a strategic bone in his body. And so I think they're days when he said, no, I don't wanna get tangled up in a war in the Middle East, and then they're going to be other days when he says, I need to hit back. I just, I there's nothing in this presidencies that suggested me through curvier that suggests strategy. I think he's all season himself a counterpuncher it goes with the gut. I don't think he has a plan. I think there are other people in the administration who have a plan, you know, the national security adviser, and the secretary of state have called for regime change in the past. So I think you know. Anything could happen on any given day. And, but the general trend is towards accidental or intentional war in, you know this part of the world, very well on the chances of this happening happening accidentally some kind of confrontation. Well, what happens is something happens. And then each side feels compelled to respond to save face or each side feels well if I take it up a notch the other side will back down and some ways President Trump sort of encourage the Iranians to have that view because when this whole thing went down again two weeks ago, he sort of caved, sorta rushed to say, oh, I want to talk. I wanna talk well what did the how do they think about that? They probably thought any of this guy's a softy, and then they do something, and then you're off to the races. So that's why it's so dangerous Jamal's here. Now security analysts with the security studies program at MIT. Nice to have you here. Good to be with you to Europe now where the rise of populism is changing the political landscape across the continent, most far right? Parties are still minor player. In policymaking, but that is not the case in Austria, the far right freedom. Party shared power with conservatives until a scandal brought down the government last month as Joanna kakissis reports. The party is still popular and could make a comeback. When the government smell last month some of the loudest cheers at a celebration in Vienna. Came from Carlita coats on who's part of a group called granny's against the right. We are all older women, and we all experienced different time, an open society. She says that open society changed in late twenty seventeen. When the conservatives invited the far right Freedom Party into government. This gave licensed hateful values radicalism, and antisemitism and racist society in general. It's all moved more to the right and even more to the extreme rides. She leads the crowd in a song about granny's fighting wolves the war is not won. She worries the far right will return after elections. This September despite a recent scandal involving former Freedom Party leader Heinz, Christian Straka. He was forced to resign vice chancellor last month after a twenty seventeen video of him on a Spanish island surfaced. In the video, he seems to be making Lucy deals with a Russian woman, hosing is the niece of an oligarch close to the Kremlin. The tape was a trap and it brought down the government, the scandal shook up the Freedom Party's leadership, but not its affinity for Russia at the nineteen th century era imperial cafe longtime party member Johan is Hubner explains. The worldview, who's an interest to have a balanced worldwide network of allies to be a US colony. The thing is in Europe. There is overwhelming US influence through NATO through the control of the financial system through the media's sued entertainment industry, other far-right parties in Europe, share this pro Russia stance Reinhard Heinisch a political scientist at the university of Salzburg lists other traits in common. They're also an anti-immigration party there an anti foreign. The party. So they are nativist their unabashedly, nationalist. And this means something in Austria, the birthplace of Adolf Hitler. When he comes to interpreting Austin history, there's certainly many in the Freedom Party who see the defeat of Nazi Germany, not as a victory for the Marcus. But see it as the defeat of for their cause many Austrians played a role in the holocaust after Hitler annexed, their country in nineteen thirty eight Austria, though, did not go through the same process of education is Germany. I mean, it wasn't anti-nazi political consensus in the years of the nineteen forty five, but that was never a consensus that you cannot call rate, politically with the far-right that's Bernard vitamin or at the documentation centre for the Austrian resistance in Vienna. So the two big parties, they've always been flirting with the far-right, and that, of course, contributed massively to normalize policies of this. Nutty. So today, the Freedom Party enjoys the support of nearly one in five Austrians. Like lead. He's a retired IT administrator who runs a monthly meeting of party faithful at a beer and schnitzel restaurant in the NF Miki that side, we may not have as many members the other parties, yet, he says, but each month we grow for NPR news. I'm Joanna kakissis in VM. Support for here. And now and the following message come from Imber wave the revolutionary new personal thermostat. That's designed to help you find thermal wellness in any situation. Amber wave can put you in control of your comfort in places like you're freezing office uncomfortable airplanes in restaurants, or feeators, after a workout at home and more. Learn more at ember wave dot com and use code NPR to say fifty dollars at checkout, amber. Wave own your temperature. There was an underground culture in New York City during the nineteen eighties. And among its hallmarks were gay and transgendered drag bulls, the FX TV series called pose follows members of New York's drank bowl seen the first season of pose was set in late nineteen eighties and the second season fast forwards to nineteen ninety both cracked the lives of the shows characters during the heat of the aids crisis. NPR's Eric Duggan's has been watching the new season higher. Right. Could you first reintroduce us to the drag ball seen in New York, and who was part of it? Sure. So anybody who knows the Madonna song, vogue, and that video will get a sense of what the drag ball scene was like it was contests where different groups of folks would dress up in these costumes, and it was a way to have chosen family for people who were often rejected by their biological family when they would. Come out as transgender come out as gay posed as a great job of sort of recreating that whole scene giving you a sense of what it felt like to be in the middle weather say that in terms of season one during drag shows that were quote, so fabulous. It'll make your eyes hurt, but that was contrasted with a lot of grit and hardship. And you just alluded to some of that what happens in, in season, two well season sort fast forwards to nineteen ninety and we're in the heart of the aids crisis. The league character impose played by Jay Rodriguez Blanca is HIV positive and in the first episode of the new season, she's talking to her medical professional about the progression of disease, and we get a sense of what people knew what they didn't know about how HIV and aids worked, and her medical professional is played by Sandra Bernhardt. So let's check it out. We've got a clue, so. But it's, it's just a number. It's a way of flagging how much care patient needs. Not I'm feeling fine. I've been amazing actually last winter. When my kids got sick. I didn't have a sniffle at all. I mean, sometimes you can't tell what is doing to your immune system. So I'm dying. No, you're not dying. You still plenty of t cells to fight with. But we can't let those numbers drop any lower and back then there weren't medications available debt could help rebuild your immune system like we have now so it really wasn't death sentence. Yes, it really was a horrific thing that happened to people, and it took longer to figure out what was going on in part, because it was such a stigma attached to getting the disease in the first place, then some official outlets, including the US government were dragging their feet in terms of providing resources for research for treatment. Eric, I to ask you about some of the other actors in, in this series. The show made an icon out of one of its lead actors. Reporter let's listen to a clip of his character, the announcer Pretell, who's getting in the face of a trans woman who didn't show up for a protest concern about winning trophy, then you are about our government spreading lies about us and an effort that. And we're and we're queer. They don't give. So we better start caring about ourselves. So Billy porter has also gained fame for peering on red carpets in tuxedos that then morph into evening, gowns, as I think he did on the Tony awards the other night, I witnessed his finery in person at the Peabody awards, just just last month. The brother bring it. Yeah. Well, I mean, what's amazing what's great about Billy is that he is a bridge between that seen being a person who was there when it was actually happening, and now playing a character in the show. But yeah, there are a lot of great new performers. I mean pose makes history by featuring the most transgender actors and most gay series regular characters in scripted series in mainstream television. So I talked about in Jay Rodriguez who plays block the main character. And there's this powerful scene where Billy Porter's character, and Blanca, go to a place where they are interring unclaimed bodies, you know, the people who died from. Aides or sort of placed in these unmarked graves, just boxes and boxes stacked up in these large holes in the ground in this, the flip side of this joyous celebration that the drag ball, competitions are, and it perfectly sort of encapsulates, the two worlds that the series is negotiating. It's, it's really an amazing thing to see it in mazing thing to see recreated. If you're old enough to remember what it was, like when it was happening the series is called pose. It's entering its second season on FX before we let you go, where the weekend is upon us. Do you have any picks for good viewing over the weekend? There's an interesting series called city on a hill that starts on Showtime, featuring Kevin bacon as this corrupt FBI cop in Boston. And if you have extra time you can always go back and see when they see us on net flex people are still talking about it. You know, some people are losing jobs, and resigning from positions over the impact from the series which retails the story, the central park five from their perspect-. Tive. There's a lot of great stuff out there. That's come to television, the last couple of weeks. So it's, it's good time to catch up NPR critic, Eric Diggins. We have our assignment, thank you very much. I've always of leisure, and here's a taste of what it sounded like last night in Toronto. Toronto Raptors fans going wild as their team beat the Golden State Warriors one fourteen to one ten to win the NBA championship. This is the first time a team from outside the US has won the NBA title. And in fact, it's the first major sports title for a Canadian team in a quarter century, the CBC's David common joins us now from Toronto, David, I hear you were out on the streets last night with people celebrating this victory did Candida like wake up with one big hangover today. Yeah. I think absolutely. And I would say it's not just the city of Toronto. This really was across country thing that reviewing parties in stadiums and arenas and homes in bars and restaurants from coast to coast to coast, like even into a are Arctic region that when people up and loud and excited, but certainly on the streets, hundreds of thousands of people who'd either been in Jurassic Park outside the arena, where the raptors normally play or had themselves been at home or or wherever, and we're just overjoyed. Yeah, I bet know I was going to say in the United States when a team wins the championship it's it's a victory for the city or the state where that team plays. But as you say, this is a a, a win for the entire country. Can you talk more about just how captivated all of Canada was, you know, I think there's a lot of bandwagon people. I'm certainly a bandwagon person. I do go to raptors game. But like one season and I don't know all the stats and all the players and everything about them. I certainly know a lot more now. And I would I would suggest there's a lot of people right across the country who are like that. But at the same time in the Toronto area itself, I kind of look back to nineteen ninety two when the Toronto Blue Jays won the World Series for the first time in many ways that was the moment where we said, you know, Toronto were we could be a world, class city Canada. We can actually compete here. It was this sort of an inferiority complex thing going on. And there was a little bit of that, as well with the raptors but the city has changed so much since the Jays one that. World series. It's grown by two million people and the kinds of people are different. It's much more diverse. You know much richer as a result. And so to look at, on the street compared to when I was in, like early high school back in nineteen Ninety-two to today. It just looks different. Same kind of energy much bigger crowd, but a total togetherness, and in a world where we are so divided. It's just nice for people of all backgrounds can be together and hugging each other. And there was that I was on, on the air last night, people were coming up and just hugging. Well, this was a very close game came down to the final seconds. The raptors were playing a team in the warriors that had been to the NBA finals for five straight years did fans feel confident that they could pull this out and win the series. Do you know I think there was a lot greater confidence on Monday for game five? I think there was a feeling of certainty that, of course they had to win at that point, ultimately. They didn't they lost by one point. And so last night, people came into Jurassic Park and other places perhaps, with a lot of hope but with less absolute certainty that this was going to happen. And then as the game, progressed, like it was it was tight through most of the game, even into that final minute a complete nail biter. So where I was in Jurassic Park this, you know, this area, right outside the, the arena. It was, it was tense like it went from really excited to really, really call them to give you an idea Drake. The rim of the rapper whose from Toronto and is this icon for the raptors in his at so many of the games and has been to so many of the games, whether it's in Oakland or here in Toronto through this final series. He was sitting on this stage into route Jurassic Park with his entourage, and he was sitting for most of the game in that final minute. He. He was up. He was up the entire time and dot kind of energy, you felt not just in Jurassic Park, but on an all the surrounding streets, where people had gathered in front of big TV's, hundreds of thousands of people. So the raptors big star quiet Leonard. He was the most valuable player for this series. But he's also a now a free agent. What's the sense? There is, is Leonard staying. We don't want to talk about. We got to talk. Should we just go onto the next? I think the only the only question to co I Leonard here during during the play offs seems to have been if you bought a house in Toronto you bought a house in Toronto yet. In fact, there's a condo developer whose offered in the penthouse suite for free. Come on long as he stays. No. He doesn't need that, but, you know, it gives you the sense of the desire to have this guy, staying not see this team broken up. I don't know what happens. And there'll be lots of talking about that, but it probably won't be till after Monday the victory parade. Yeah. Let the party go on. That's the CBS's David come and speaking with us from Toronto, where I guess, now the question across Canada is when will your NHL teams win a championship. David, thanks so much. No problem. And it doesn't matter as much the country, shifting the country's shifting terms of what it likes. Bow sling season for retailers in the US. The Commerce Department today reported strong gains and sales in may. And this morning's report also revised the March and April numbers upward. That's a good sign for the economy, but experts say there are clouds gathering on the horizon. Mike, Regan is senior editor at Bloomberg news. I Mike, so tell us about the retail numbers. What is driving Americans to shop? More this spring, that consumer element of the economy, which is supremely important is still pretty strong. If you look at unemployment, it remains at an almost fifty year, low consumer confidence was another report that came out today, and those readings remain near some of the highest levels of this century. And also, you have gasoline prices remained pretty tame down a little bit compared to this time last year. So all in all the consumer is a holding firm at this point, despite like you said some uncertainty about other. Elements of the economy. Yeah. So it appears that the higher prices because of tariffs on China are not yet having a fact on consumer behavior. But despite the good news that hasn't stopped Wall Street for mooring Morgan Stanley's, saying, business conditions are on par with two thousand eight the year of the financial crisis that you're at first began tell us more about what they're seeing. So what we're gonna Stanley does is it creates an index. That's basically aggregation of a bunch of different economic signals from the services, part of the economy, the manufacturing part of the economy, and that ever in putting job market and all of them did cool recently. So there gauge of sort of the big picture, did take a big dip. It was actually the, the biggest drop on record. I believe in as you said to the lowest level since two thousand eight so as you pointed out, despite this consumer remaining point there are, what appears to be softening patches in the rest of the economy. A lot of investors are thinking the Federal Reserve would cut interest rates in July to keep the economy. Coming along is still likely it's still appears to be the base case for, for traders, you can sort of suss out the probability of a rate increase, or a rate cut based on what the market for short term interest rates show. And right now it's about an eighty five or eighty six percent probability priced into those markets of a interest rate cut in July. Now that said, not everyone is convinced we just had David Causton of Goldman Sachs on Bloomberg television this week's and he he's not convinced. He's not sure that the fed actually will cut rates between now at the July meeting, and they're really there's a lot that can happen between now and July, so we'll have to sort of stand by and watch wonder what's happening in China because things they're slowing down industrial outgrowth OPEC growth, slowed to its weakest point since two thousand two but it still grew about five percent. How long can China keep growth at a level like that? Right. So obviously, they are feeling some of the facts of the trade tensions with US. Bath remember, China has a lot more flexibility as far as the government responding. And introducing stimulus into the economy just because the way the government is set up there. The, the head of China can can sort of pull a lot of different levers to boost demand in the economy. That would take a lot of political wrangling in the US to, to pull off. So I suspect, China will continue to respond and have the government and of things boost the demand that is, is waning in the private sector could to talk to you, as always Mike. Regan senior editor at Bloomberg news. Thank you, Mike. Thank you. There were some dire predictions yesterday on Capitol Hill about the future of technology. Former FBI special agent Clint wants went before the house intelligence committee to explain the risk of deep fakes or doctored videos on the internet. That appear to be real over the long term delivered development of false. Thank media will target USA officials institutions, democratic processes within enduring goal of earning democracy and demoralized the American constituency in the near in short term circulation of fakes may incite physical mobilizations under false. Pretenses initiating public safety crises, and sparking the outbreak of violence, that he's one of many issues facing tech companies today that have led to calls for more government regulation, and that is why congress is now holding a series of high profile hearings to how does all this look to the man behind one of the original tech giant's Bill Gates is co founder of Mike. Christoph. He's also a philanthropist with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is an NPR funder, Mr. gates welcome to here now. Thank you. Let's start with the hearings on Capitol Hill this week looking into the power of tech giants like Google Facebook, an Amazon. Do you think these companies are monopolies? Well, there's certainly have high market shares. Some of those they work in and they have impacts on a lot of sectors of the Konami. And then become, you know, key tools for communication and even getting news. So they're important companies so important companies, but how much regulation should the federal government have over these companies is there not enough? Well certainly areas where people are using social media for bullying in where you have of foreign actors doing election related activities in even the companies involved say that given the mainstream role there is room for election related or child protection or privacy, type rules and what is good regulation look like to you. Well, each of those areas complex, you have examples coming out of Europe that you can look at on the privacy front. And some of these areas. It's new ground number of twenty twenty candidates on the democratic side who are running. President of called for breaking up these tech companies. I want to listen to a little bit from, Elizabeth Warren who speaking here in New York City in March, they think they can still up all of our personal data and sell it to whoever they want for whatever purposes, they think they can run their business to just roll right over every small business every entrepreneur, every startup that might threaten their position. And what does our government in Washington? Do nothing. So do you agree with Elizabeth Warren, the some of these companies should be broken up, the generally got laws in the country and you ask companies to adhere to those laws? I'm not aware people are saying that they broken laws in such a way that the remedy would be to do that. It doesn't seem like just going around break companies solves privacy issues. I wanna ask you something else that I heard today. Facebook engineers have created in artificial intelligence system that clones, the voices of famous people, including you. So I wanna play this recording of the Bill Gates AI impersonator. He's reading a phrase that says a cramp is no small danger on a swim. It's, it's, it's a phrase, as you probably know that engineers use to test AI program. So let's listen to that a cramp is no small being jour- on a swim. Okay. So there it is Bill Gates. What do you think about that? Pretty good. Yeah. No, there's no doubt that technology can synthesize speech now. And you have to think we're is that helpful Moore of inappropriate, right? What do you think are you are you concerned with the direction that some technology is taking? Is that is something that, like, what we just heard a, a risk that worries you, if it's used in the wrong way, certainly? The distrust in news media is got to be concerned for everyone in the so-called, the Vache capability could make that worse. These these fake videos, deep fake, they're called you're referring to there. Yeah. Either video video or audio. Yes, listen. I want to ask you about another issue that I know is very important to you. You're headed to Capitol Hill later this month to talk to lawmakers about the Trump administration's proposed cuts to the State Department. What is your concern and have you spoken to the president about this? Well, I think the United States should be incredibly proud, how on a bipartisan basis, the support for health. Aide including pep far which went after HIV in global fund in they've kept over ten million people alive. That would be dead today. They allowed these African countries chance to get their health systems organized to make it less likely that epidemic start in those countries. And so, I think given the strength of the economy, I think the US should at least maintain if not increase these budget items in, I think the congress will override the proposed budget cut. But I'm going there to talk about this because I get to see this work in the field I get to see that. The money is very well spent. And so, I think it'd be a tragedy, if there were were cuts, but in cuts secretary of state, Mike Pompeo has said that cutting back on the aid will allow other countries to be more self reliant. What? What do you think about that? I mean, why should the United States taxpayer be be investing in those sorts of issues? You're saving lives, very small amounts of money, and certainly the global fund is fantastic. Requiring countries to finance, along with the United States as much as they can. But this is government at its best saving lives lifting countries avoiding instability in pedantic would threaten you as citizens. It this was done on a bipartisan basis starting under President Bush, boy, if you, you know, if you can't support this, it's hard to know what you can support, and you've spent something like ten billion dollars on global health initiatives, and I know you spend a lot of money investing on issues in the United States as well. But people ever ask you, you know, why is it that you spend so much time and effort on foreign countries as opposed to some of the issues here in the United States, like are you doing enough? For instance to solve poverty here. Well, I don't think even the us government has solved poverty. We're very involved in US -education, and trying to make sure that no matter what your background is that you get a great education at the same time. You know, we believe that the deaths of children that in a we're up over twelve million a year back in nineteen ninety the fact that that's been cut in half. Now is giving countries in places like Africa chance to grow their economy, and become self sufficient, and so in a we've stepped in and global health is gigantic program for us because we do think those human lives have value. Some Democrats who are running for president have said that there should be a wealth tax tax on the richest Americans is that something you'd be willing to pay. Well, I think taxes can be more progressive. You know if the government's going to take on the increases in. Ical costs and eventually not let the deficit get too big. There are you know, there's a need to find revenue. And I think that can be done in a progressive way a wealth tax particulars is complicated implement, but, you know, if that's part of a progressive tax plan that the country wants then, you know, that's great. Well, what do you think would that impact philanthropy all if, if the richest Americans were paying more money in taxes, they'd be giving more less of their money away to charity? Well, the first thing is to make sure the state, which provides education and health and roads and Justice that it's properly financed to do the things that the voters want it to do whether that leaves room for deductions for philanthropy, people are going to give money no matter what the tax treatment of plant is under certain tax structures, they'd give less, you know, I do think the estate taxes a good tax, you know, could be. Hired that as lead to some in a very good philanthropic giving. But I you got your taxes, and then in the philanthropic impact is comes after that. How closely are you watching of the race for president is in is there somebody that you like so far? I don't follow the speeches of all twenty four candidates, you know, I'm, I'm fairly private about in my political approach because our foundation really. Has engaged in willing, gauge with all all administrations Bill Gates. Thanks for speaking with us. Thank you. That was story that highlights the concerns that many Muslims have about their safety here in the US in may. There was an arson attack on a mosque in New Haven, Connecticut. It came as Muslims were observing the holy month of Ramadan, that arson attack in the recent mass shootings at houses of worship is prompting some leaders to take action officials at another mosque in Connecticut of hired more guards to patrol at Sunday school. And as a Connecticut public radio's of an Esa dilatory reports students there aren't just learning about Islam they're being taught how to respond to misconceptions about their faith. When I make a mistake. Bear with me who's next at the Muslim Sunday school in Berlin, Connecticut. Dr raisin on Soroush coaching a class of mostly teenagers, and how to be what he calls modern voices of Islam, by the way, somebody. If you use an Arabic term, and you don't translate dinged, one point. Okay. So that's Lamar commits God's peace be with you. All on sore is president of the schools, musk. The Islamic association of Greater Hartford, and he's big on translating, Slavic phrases and words take the word jihad. For instance, it means a struggle, usually a personal spiritual one. But when you hear the word jihad in the media, he says, it's almost always associated with extremists commit violence in the name of Islam. And when Islam is viewed as a threat that makes Muslims target just measured. Someone call you terrorist until you to go home ISA and solemn seventeen he's in the Sunday school class. I had one of my friends say that they were scared to come to the measured because they were fade that they were going to be shot on recently. They're mosque had an active shooter training with the local police department. It's one of the security measures, they've taken since the attacks at the tree of life, synagogue, and Pittsburgh in the two months. In Christchurch New Zealand? But when meant sore talks about security, he also talks, a lot about changing the narrative, he tells us students Slama phobia is driven in part by false information. So he wants them to correct. Those misconceptions than Muslims are anti-american the next generation of Muslims to be able to show that somac- values and American values completely compatible after nine eleven months, sore founded the Muslim coalition. Connecticut group e started to counter, the anti Muslim rhetoric that he says is perpetuated in the media, the teenage students in the Sunday, school grew up after nine eleven and soon they'll be heading off to college. So today, they're practicing being modern voices of Islam by having a debate. The topic is whether America is the best place to practice is not, and you can bring Slama phobia rhetoric media all of that into it. They split into groups when team leans heavily on the constitutional protections for religious freedom. I usually pashas says that's nice and all but government, that's going into moss or synagogues and holy mass shooting. The people that believe in you. Idea. Students also bring up the so-called Muslim travel ban by President Trump, despite that much source says he still thinks America is a great place to practice Islam that remains a safe haven for immigrants like himself on sore came from Sri Lanka almost thirty years ago after his medical school. There was bombed. He's now cardiologists we don't want the Muslim ban on these Lomb hates Americans stuff to change this nation that welcomes immigrants, and that has made a mad cow, such beautiful country. All right. Good. Job guys time for pizza. Outside a security guard is seen patrolling the property student missing Muhammed says she feels safe at her mosque. But as a high schooler in Connecticut, who wears a headscarf. She says she's had a deal with people calling her terrorist my friend, and I also wears a scarf. We took our time to explain to them that our religion, does not motivate our like promote violent in that were religion of peace like Muhammad Ameen parks is one of the only Muslims at his high school. He says he tries to be a good embassador for his faith just like he's been taught Sunday school. But when an incident involving Muslims happens out, in the world harks is expected to answer for it, stereotype that go along with as well racist, jokes, and things like that. So I mean I tried to clear things up, but a lot of people you just can't change there really stubborn. So park says he tries to change minds by just being himself. It's best just to show people who you really are stuff like that. And if they take it they'll take it. But if not just. Try not to feel the fire sore. 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#66 - Maximum Value - In Conversation with Max Bazzuccini

Dental Leaders Podcast

1:14:46 hr | 5 months ago

#66 - Maximum Value - In Conversation with Max Bazzuccini

"And in a good deal is always on a wing wing bases. You know you wanna maximize the price on the sellers and you wanna miss you. That the buys the pain the right price. We chased sometimes over the asking price model from the north east of the asking price. But not crazy as independence independence by it which you would never recover the money that you would pay so the biggest mistake of a pain. The pulse cost way. You get to go one on one. With emerging leaders in dentistry your haste payment language amp raft salon matt. Welcome to the dent elitist podcasts. We've had numerous conversations regarding just the marketplace of buying and selling dental practices. You've educated me a during our conversations. And on i'd like you to not only shout knowledge with our community. Also tell us a little bit about yourself as well. So welcome to the podcast. Max and just kickoff by telling a little bit about your backstory where you grew up and your upbringing. Thank you thank you pay absolute pleasure to talk to you on this podcast. Yes i'm a trae italian It was born in nevada Village in the center of italy on board with tasking. Umbra the in hell's lacking after my my family strong family together grew build a growing up in the same so the house My dad actually built so he's the various give full and chami men give will be and I'm the ted number three of three boys and they send in big shopping between me and my brothers which is just defined by the fact that my dot was kind of a nice changing jobs unity. He went from being a beta kind of enough on every month to to have enough food than enough comfortable life to as you know i needed the mountains so there is a need that necessity for panels in route. So you actually was for the job to be we this friend. An engineer from avalanche to be consistent that actual end they started building panels so then in this gap between heavy my brother than myself it makes enough money and then i was born so i would say that was boaty in at complete different situation from my brothers inevitably estate as an to go through before ending said i might not never gave me anything fulfilling. I made me more. You gave me providing me for provocations and Comfortable but it made me won't labs Holidays fast-melt by fez car which is great. I appreciate because he gave me an understanding of walking do sanding of santic's and i guess you know when he was building ouds one of them was needed to house. The advantage of that is that i was leading dry when i was very young so when my driving excess exam i passed leading by three tests to a three of lessons because i i was driving back to the time inaccurately so i then went to university in peru john at the age of eighteen nearly nineteen i left. My house are into studies. Sports therapies which i was kind of From playing basketball. i like these Anatomy physiology of the what are waiting to stand it up. And i used to leave in the central the city but it was beautiful medieval town then. I used to go to a gym near to my flag near tomorrow. Parliament And became a very good friend with the owner. Hope at geiko angela. I went the first month a paid membership the second month. Obey the membership. And the i remember the man's going to the gym and say to. I'm i'm not gonna pay you this month. I'm gonna make sure enough. I want buy half of your james. The reason why i said this to him is because i noticed that the was never really fooled to show. that was a lot of people live in the nominee. Do a going there. So i spotted an opportunity as we divided invited guests. There was my best experience in valuation of a business really on a business. I wanted to buy us. How old were you then on. Nineteen oh you buy off with this gym at nineteen. I dig jess. We had violated any was two hundred million wage in today's debate. Just saw the handed thousand euros. So i went to My dad any lend me the money. He gave me fifty just fifty thousand euros. I both have the arena I the magic body until the delaval english language hannah was phoning that already and the first few months. I did nothing. Because i'd take business grow through evolution. You don't want to go and may change his straightaways. The festival three months. I wanted to understand completely out of business. Will strong ralston were studying mice. Sports -cation. Then we start to implement changes and some of the changes were for example. I contacted my good friend. Alejandro a coupon walk class dancer and then started doing latin american classes. That my friend dmitri in doing martial-arts my friend lanny from grace. Who was doing some modeling. She was studying international low and she went to yoga. So the the business went from we basically quadrupled the number of members when we started to commend exchanges way. Minimal investment costs might advise was investing marketing and expanded level of services will be provided this service for free providing that you are a member of the game so we kinda plottable the number of members so my dad when he gave me said i wanted the money back within four years interest rate and two years and a half later we had the valued again and he was will over double a. We And i go very involved in that process of questioned. The business and this kind of wet. I started to love. Businesses valuations in growing business. And i thought this is way to much fun and make money rather than walking every day on mice boss these taffy side to do a loss of treatments to make to to make the same money i just made by by and growing a business so i got the money back are given to ago enough money then to buy an apartment which is still today in today's After fourteen years. I lived in the amish for awhile than after so jay might decided there. I'll be more convey hot. That was supposed to go now blasting. Because i think i feel you can have. It all is not like if you start it. You can't do this. I think you can have the same in connecticut. You can have a family issue in the moments in present moment and very hard usually this moment anyway so then i sold the jayme about myself a nice little carswell which she used to belong to a food. The player of fiorentina and nearby from fiorenza was it. Were a beautiful black fiat. Coupet geico loved. It absolutely loved it. I was about twenty to twenty one twenty two and going with this long hat feet coupet and i paid. I remember ten thousand you as a six months old car brand new with it costs. Twenty four is thirty five brand-new ca end by then. I decided that after that. I wanted to travel because i really love travel at ninety paternity to a times A made the loss of france. Which was the benefit of being which state had lots of good friends in that. I the chance to travel. So i wanted to work and travel so i decided then to go which prompts this time that me full math italian prime minister battles have in common which is not in. He's not depositing You might team bop. We both started working on a cruise ship a pianist on crochet and i decided to be as manager so we traveled travel yet and half two contracts defense contract was in Europe south europe. Baying go to go grease italy and then we went to the north view rope northeast. See some his bag not way absolutely stunning place. The second contract was in nam in kind of being an sensormatic dura so we traveled a lot and Was walking so much what. what was your climate stage. Because you you don't you physiotherapy you've got you got your qualifications from human learnt you craft you bought and sold the business. Was there master plan hero. Did you just think you know what. I'm just going to take a few years out. Go and travel the world and enjoy myself in a bit of money. What to to to keep myself alive while i'm doing this and then so of rollout. The master plan what was going on in your head at this time. I needed ashley plan. I just wanted to to a lack. I graduated. I finished my invested in the net of debts free. So i had enough money and i have an apartment which when i was starting giving me some sort of income rituals not many of my friends. My situation's really in in in what i was. I was quite comfortable side planet when working on a cruise ship. You don't trust me the last thing you're thinking about getting manage right so you are twenty four. You got working on xtra shape you just want to go and enjoy life and literally. I remember i embarked in may beginning i and at the end of may we have absolutely fantastic night. In the middle of the sea. I've crew party the vistas beautiful beautiful time and i was sitting drinking something we. My friend fitness instructor yawn the from romania. And i see these guys. And i'm thinking well. She's absolutely beautiful. I you know i know. He sounds cliche stadium into their while she was writing and out of cannot so tend around to my friend and i say yarn. I liked this guy. You know the. I'm gonna marry her was that he hayride as crazy so then i started to get nardi scab. She she was a dancer on the shape. And we stopped to get to get out of the mall than we went together on my second contracting the caribbean i then decided. Actually i do want to marry because as he sounds. I think she's the loan my life. I think founder and slowly she does go vestige where she eventually got those. But i to quantify range and i had a ring made in someone butchery i adding mak- in appleby's cottage platinum rain about the dining key west diamond mate. I drink mate then in Antigua we writing san those on a day that a day nine from the shape we went in the c. i. admiring and i propose to act and she said yes and so after that we came back to europe and back then we didn't have a mobile phone or anything communications. We find that he was quite cops right. So we get to ten days after crossing the atlantic and we we had an aq- waiting to make a call back to the family. So i sent to you go fast. And she called f patents mom and dad and i call mine after we coming back by the way we guess he married as a mighty too so my parents are now go. Kids is absolutely crazy but my parents while if you show. She lover gopher The say. I've my parents law that the same say and rusty married they beautiful family to case fifteen years later So i'm like that unite funding sending dry. I go for it. And this is how you ended up in england because after we got married we got married deny in england in a beautiful village in the south of england intent and then we also more easily for the people that are not as you probably either. This angry young weddings and uniquely for while for by year. My wife at the time was a professional dancer and she was predominantly working in england. And most of that work force in england and the west end. She she she did one contract in rome even full-back contracts yet go shooting in in london taina and she was spending most of the time in england and in that year i spent a lot of time doing business that is the equivalent. Acc valuation coast landing by sent them at the methodology valuations of businesses. So i decided. I don't really want to spend time apart you to get you wanna be physically to guetta so we decided okay. Let's go to england. Let's go and see our day. So i then down my my apartment and i went wrong. Many moving to england moved to london. And i went from the fast few few days. Quite hot was quite challenging. The there wasn't one hotting you kind of a combination of several factors. Obviously i my father's that. I not to walk a wanted to to make success of staining and most of oh i want to make a success of my relationship and build a family so this was my my time my main blind. I want to have a family. I want to say we we my wife and sounding good. We've come out to the also days and and and and eventually date so we moved to putney enough fashioned way. You are beautiful. So i max max. Just i'll i'll i'll kick you off so from that you know you'll plan walls you move to the uk and a number one plan was you wanted to make a go of your relationship. An what about. What about your career plan. Max did you. Did you have an idea of you told about you start doing these qualifications about valuing businesses etc etc right but what what was what was the career plan at that point and then fast forwarding. How did you get into dentistry was re transition. Did you do something else before you went into dentistry. Yes i did. And day day. Whilst i was studying english so the first thing i want to do is to improve my english which was not very good at a time. Assault went into studying which wiles hours applying for a job. I want to work for stealing combined. Setting should by phone working with some friday. Might english wasn't grey. So that's what kind of of my weakness at the time. So i i need to focus on improving my english which date and they walk. I was doing at the time. I was working as many sales rep for a pharmaceutical company. And you know you have the base. Saturday basic saturday and unlimited commission level. So i really went for it. And i was making know money consistently of the top three in the county for my company. Company nutri shop after the venom group. And did it again. While i was studying english which i studied in i was going in college. And then working for this company Meeting and going to walk in hospitals and then studied during the day walking in the evening. So long day longhouse You've got to do when you got a couple of things to do at the same time. Really max what was the first time when you go into something to do with them to what was. What was the first time you something student. The summer of two thousand eight. And i am kopar. In saint george's hospital just finished meeting that closed the good contracts on The staff who are sending them. And i have a cold from this guy talking to me with a very low deploys in american accent tonight up. Vito corleone from the godfather so much no voice having this really loud deep voiced opposition. And this guy says i'm working I'm calling from a product Moon we just call a group of financial practices Until after the icelandic. I'm company collapse into the night. And we are looking for someone who can help us to grow through acquisitions dental practices. Another time i didn't even know you i-instead dental practice so i went to the interview and i remember going to this office and it was fooled of all of this senior senior people. Read the suit and tie in that offices and that was me than anything. We might ping transferred in blue jackets sunglasses on my head. The probably told the pizza delivery guys end up and our interview. And i remember talking to this really tall guy and he's talking to me with so much passion about what they're doing and the vision of what they want to do which i bought into his passion without actually fully knowing or they wanted me to. Andy's name was growth which then became my business. Godfather meant of my friends and now my partner in improves bottomless. So that was back into this in an eight. I spend the situation who's a situation with. Adp at that point. How do they continue to buy data about fifty and I spent about five six months old my facetime that learning about the business of van district. I'd be the normal. Uda's ross anything like that so. They told me everything and i say schools. They plan. Did they say she. We want to expand to one hundred. Or what were they saying. Yeah they want to grow to enlist one hundred by having organic consistent growth through opposition the quantity practices not just the quantity not getting anything and saying at the time they wanted to throw through acquisitions of single sides maybes mall not much tendering because the thing that was signed providing low. Uta body which from from a group affect you was not really a possible. You know you needed the baffoni. Five six hundred eighty in order to make it profitable. So i then does it. What does it feel like you like a kid in a candy store. No way because like he's a private equity th it almost feels like you're spending other people's money was eludes of money was money. Money was not problem but there were a street comments criteria for the type of practices that i needed to buy so i needed to make good deals and in my mind my mind was. I was kinda conflict between the practice. Saleh's end and embiid invest always the middleman trying to get a good deal for everybody was involved cheap because otherwise south to to the group equally than waste someone else's money and You know even if it wasn't my money. I never really trone away anyway so i always valued that nice to be both and there i at the right price because you made money when you buy you. Don't make money and you said say to buy right. He know the dental sal at enhance multiple. So then we grew into run under the thatch to practices through combination of single size of positions and groups. I remember my very fast deal. And as many brokers will tell you all operations manager a full mac wishes manager will tell you the fast Your last year and my first deal was a group of practices in. Wait a bank account. And i'll thinking that's great. I'm gonna go back and the lowest. I know you know this guy walks. I was being naive anyway. And that was a good deal for everyone and an that member now. My steel s advised as plus to by which was done just before christmas so going back anywhere to eighty day than we dense sold. Or should i say. I investors parliament together. Wade's hotline while the for the biggest investors owning the age group to put together this kind of super group which was the biggest group in a mural at the time and they're ending february twenty eleven. So i went through leading and understanding and Loss maury tremendously mentally ill. I was working shattering him at lebanon's ending a exit at the high level. And so we then wore for ideas for the time by a house continuing buying practices for them in grow and deonna owner. The age david highly exited the company a couple years later and he decided to invest in another project consideration of gdp practices and then he asked me to go war for him which date for a couple of years. So i did some expedience high summit students in a in the healthcare sector which is now empty me to understand and bring stanton out some different. The table basis dentistry is that is that what happened with that. Business will happen to david the delhi. So we'd as you know. Gp's done now that a commodities because you've contradict sal gb practice by you can do to a main partnerships anyway. So is not that you are quoting. Thank than they know. They can set a dental practice which aesthetically easy at the gp practice so that deals on a one to one basis. We're kind of taking that long. That then that time that the danger deal so you're look in about twelve months and to end for for the deal competition. So we decided to approach a group and we. We both group or baffles five. Gb practices the morning health. And at the time. I'm thinking the biden selling is wide high to do. I don't really lightning digression into the group that mehan cross seen settling detaille. We always wanted to to setup advisory fab and in advising groups and kind of large practices on that exit planning maximizing value. A when he was ready. I wasn't ready As a when i was ready he was working wish. He bled on on beaks fun project. Danny went Bent thanks as chief operating officer daniels. Ready and i was ready and then we are back in twenty lead at twenty eight now so we start putting together the plan to setup luta partners and one of the things. I wanted to make us different. I guess from anyone as out there. i want to have a dentist as a greenie. Co-partner clinical advisor because we are advising than his son have to maximize the value and nobody. Nobody better than advantages can understand how to rhyme and how So we have a dentist practicing dentists with experience in buying his own practices advising knock on every deal that we take on the table so if someone wants to sell their practices how long before they sell their practice. They stop what reading on an a growing growing turnover or reducing the costs. How long did that process take. I is difficult to say specific time but the longer process. He takes the bank today. The mall so the timing advance you stop planning the straight days i was. If you're thinking about settling in five years time then stopped now. I think he also depend on the type of practices that you have food associated factors in your ending. You said to monterey if you already that. I always things that you can maximize the folks reducing lap costs and imagine sure that the income is equally spread amongst associate hops rather than or one associated by view demand before making the practice than we advise. Trying to make yourself lessons dispensable because it's not the content. You can stay at south back. A group buying practices in corporate binded practice. Probably ask you to stay for the time to minimize the risk investment. In if you want to set a then you need to try to make seth lesson dispensable. I would say trying to line two or three years before. And how much do you think. Quote of percentage change. Can you make. Let's not gonna friend. Yeah he he's thinking of selling his practice and it's a nice practice. It's a nice practice. I think the the turns. I have a million pounds and he. He says he's not going to do any of that. He's just going to sell his practice. What percentage changed you. Can you could make to the to the selling price. If he spends a couple of years cutting causton trying to push up revenue. And all the tricks that i i mean drink. It's just the way it is right. Yeah of course. I could make while the key pay as in making the changes in advance. Not doing last changes I mean for example. What we know this recently not just inventors by everybody's how have digital technology has become a lifeline for sony or the last few months right and why see practices saudi blending digital dentistry for example that become more profitable as eastern through using that lobbied cost right so if he could appliance is they have an eight percent lower coast after that investment if they invest maybe on a saturday machine for example bank can reduce cost by two percent in the first year and on a million pound revenue practices. You mentioned two percent. twenty thousand. Hanson posted effect the profit margin and instantly can improve the valuation by Times more talk than he's handled infused thousand pounds. I the value to do your business so obviously certain things that you can. Each pound pound you save is worth seven pounds on the sale. If it's seven times all every only Pounds divided to your business providing sustainable change if you if you make a change and you go below the average so if you go ranan so let's say for example support staff cough average for practices. Look in about seventy percent right now and shoot it. Used must be because you won't set out to attempt basenji named percents. They is not going to be sustainable from new biased perspective. So always you may change is going to be sustainable going forward. And the lab bid cost for example is one of them as well of course improving the reviews for example the shadow time that you can reduce all Improvements you can't make reading preventing digital digital transformation. Max would you mind just in in real simple terms and summarizing for us how a practice is valued on another new ways of doing this right but on the whole hour practices valued but also what the salt deals the present themselves on the table the practice owners may or may not be aware of in an and the things i'm thinking about is retention period. You know how long required to stay on. What does that deal look like for them while the consequences for them if they hit certain targets well you know what what will use your pitfalls. They need to look out for when when when looking at the deal of how a prances value down on the face value. They may think okay. They're gonna get x for that practice but in reality that getting sixty percent from forty percent deferred over five years and hitting not deferral target may be more challenging than than they anticipate and and so he would you mind just summarizing those those few points. Yes aw Fast we talk about how we value intense that the direction so the path of the do prize. They paid over a period of time. Provided certain targets are met and different groups usually this done by cobra patches not much from from soviet independent buyers so certain groups will apply different types of criteria and fullness we as fighting has done advisors. We always advise to oxides to make sure that the targets achievable but riyadh issue crop While you get the payment on completion there s. I consider ebanon so the higher the payment on completion and the veterans day so we always tried to negotiate on behalf of clients equally bias. Warm to make sure that that investment is investment minimize anyway so setting groups of the targets of baby talk growth which to me is is difficult trated because the giving vibe to business based on growth. He's the difficult concept. For for sadler and evan top as target also can potentially create some arguments. So i would say having dragging younes that as the target Black wide might seem pro concept for what is bitar was just in very simple to practice. Only the i spoke to low to don't even know what that means an. Why should i write if in the process of selling or buying practices tied the actual many monetize than akron. Which is the Is made out from a different voice. And he's the adding before interest tax depreciation amortization injury in in simple times is the through operating profit of the practice and after costs essentially. And if you oughtta practice zona and we haven't associate led by Cobra model thing. Obviously they need to include costs of y'all clinical income at the back to the valuations. And then you will live. usually fifteen. Dragging percent of the prophet match in on a million pound practices would be any top and the more bowl the applied at the moment as around seven times. Another obviously dead. The highest the the title. The the high would be demoted. And we see max max. Oh interrupt bags. How does that compare with other industries. I mean let's look at other professions with our lawyers architects in the council all of just real companies software companies or whatever you in devaluations world a dentist in over a a. We are we in a bubble over. We got further to go as far as it batali multiple. Yeah he's funny mentioned bible because this is the world has been mentioned many many kinds. I will never really passed. That was kind of people. Were expecting this to us. The time to go compact rod industries the to dentistry is really high pat event. And we see this Exercise quite lot compared to the same ing this drinking other countries east to betty. hi in england the average is at the moment on transactional batali tolerable six point. Seven across all type of practices on socio lead margot you need to look in about four times in a usa looking at times the baton so he can ghani survey. Hi ed b. Thomas people pharmacies that match less it'd be tied for five soot dentistry. Profitable business from you got time you go hi multiple dentistry in in the uk. I guess driven also by By the end of chess rather than a factory you go got on teed unimaginative than investors. Relying no one as you know. He needs to ninety six percent of businesses private and you get high quality treatments us to get very low quality because of the lack of relations and the standardization and there is no so government income given to practice on a monthly basis. Like like in england on on the on the nfl I guess one of the points to stop and we seen it now during the pandemic jury last year prices really and we did say this men nate black imaginative last year. We expecting prizes not to change. in fact prices didn't really change. the motorboats remained the same. Obviously changing voice change is the multiply. It might be changed by the multiple applied to be top that has not changed and banks are steep providing valuations based on a recovery level. And is what we do so address. Your question proud Other banks lending the lending inning lending is happening there. Are you know fourteen. Fifteen forty major banks st landing democratic change and the so you would need a high amount to buy the confidence in the sector. Stay that the demand is that and the confidence is in that. So we'll be looking at the looking at uber luke. Twenty percent as opposed to find them to send pre covid at the moment so yes fifteen to secure level so then when you look at the market now compared to i'm leaving them to go pre covid. I'm going to go six months ago. What are the differences. I mean i. I remember we. Well we had the accident on from From taylor and he said there was a bunch of associates who wanted to buy their own practice now because of you know the the nightmare of being associated during this pandemic period. That if they were if they were thinking of buying your practice that's accelerated than wanting to buy practices. Have you seen that too We did seen this. yes we we. We experienced a seventeen percent increase in the number of associate registering with us to want to buy their own dental practice. So we now have a bow just undefined. Thousand registered buyers probably active twenty five percent flow. There are seven nine. Seven hundred fifty practices come into market on a on a on a yearly basis. Probably be more now associates. That's the biggest change related that we see during the last six months of last year. Crises of change our walk. Changing the market is the changes affected associates. Most in two ways. I would say the fast way is that principals are working mom in that practice that for they're using the level of income to does it and also the associated they are work most of the time they To accent do at adoption in the in the pay so they sent is run down from fourteen forty five to thirty five for example so they had the reduced level of income jacomb to buy into the security of job for the future. So binding going Jeff thing i noticed is is. I don't know how you would define because something quite new mother on new associate that instead of binding properties they are building and developing their own brand with index is in practice as we call from super associates on this show. Certain i mean super associate might means that the dow better than other so that properly say brand associate. Yes sir they do it. They are their own brand within existing brands. I think he's great shorthand for the practice owner in the longtime invited to the business. I don't know he's questionable. They would be a strong relationship and a strong contracting place mall for example idiotic practice owner to three different brand associate or as you it a super associate over the over the coastal three years. And you can just define to a by then. You had three different types of these associates. So they can have the same by the want them and and they may be responsible for Income they can leave the day off. The you've said your practice biased. Non naive so i guess From a practice vibe perspective is difficult to to get to that. In the short tab sadly can improve revenues base shankly. Do you ever work on behalf of the buyer or you always on behalf of the seller. We do we walk for the deal and we worked for the good deal and we. I wore combat the by it all on behalf descended but is not. We never get paid from you. Know is so we have any concerns. And i've thrown when we were combined with the diet usually we walked free of large groups and we advise them on on several deals and a couple of years ago. We asked advice. One of the largest group wrote weeks on that positions of a group in a nineteen hundred and nine south wales and which was at the time that peace deal and we broken. And i guess the deal dining in twenty nineteen we define you and the number of patsy so we advised bias in terms of large groups as advice but we predominance you walk we. We satisfy spinal the other. You can't you woke me off about so we gotta get blizzard as an individual individual coming to you and saying. I want to buy practices and i wanna pay you fly me. The right practice We we gave a lot of advice. We don't go and searching for the practice facility for individual We advise than what to look for. And we we sometimes have on the negotiation process. We don't go out and find him a practice. I want to sell my practice and go directly to one of the coal production department for example deal directly with them higher. Lawyer undo the deal myself. Why should i pay somebody like you to take a co- the deal. If i can just keep the full slice of the cake of the deal with this is the one percent. How much is it. Max is a one percent one hundred percent. What does it every running off consent. The way i would think of it is. He's going to get to send more expensive questions so so in that in mind. Can you illustrate any deals where you've actually acted on behalf of somebody selling it on to what extent you've increased the The sale deal. Yeah i mean. I say i have a good relationship. Rates with most of the groups ended up positions team and yemen. A guys ladies working in a in the groups a when they see may involving involvement mind moments. You know that easily. Become aware that it's going to be tough. negotiations is not always the case. If you go an approach them direct in most of the time at practice we do this once in a lifetime that we said the practice and they would have already have one soon if they get an offer and then may be thing is the best and final. And maybe they don't you know they might be great initiative other no great negotiating. The bathrooms to push the mice. Betas in my background. Obviously buying practices. So i know what buttons to push you know the to increase the value. You know what no can improve valuations negotiation. Now we know what we can we can achieve so sometimes we see a initial factor. And he's not just about the price of the times the amount of the coun- abbas in impact solve example. I can give you an example which is quite an exceptionally. That was the practice in biking share. Who came to us. We offer on the table for one. Point eight million. Won't one point eight million for my practice. No they said we have an office for one point. Eight and i think is good and you wanted to groups so malays the and then of course we can talk about value and price in a minute and then i thought he said could off. I think we can improve on that offer. A one point eight and the way that you can improve is by creating nice competitive tension not just with back group by introduce to three potential bias that you team that good match and we did so so the consequently we started to get off us and the same group who offer one point eight and it was the best in final couple of months later they offer two point four so obviously wasn't the best and final but then eventually the deal closed at two point seven which i was surprised by i place. We what we did that. And the winds will place he sold ultimately ended up selling to another group not the same group running half percent save. I would say is more than justified by involving some annika's can introduce him bring to the table different groups and sometimes also trying to maximize That you might have from from the same group. So even if you're mitt deal with With with a Culprit or or. Is it still all too late to engage a professional yourself You know obviously unit trying to find the balancing not to upset The by about easy The unique to maximize your chances Today and he's probably once in a lifetime opportunity and he's an exciting time sanyo business. You want to miss. Show that you especially. If you ended up working with the group that is not a sentiment in the time in the way that you you you go so you need to make sure that you get the right value before you said not realizing after by talking to your friend since they actually active set for tomorrow might conditions could have been better so you act to explore avenues and michaud you get good deal then value and in terms. What's the right one. The things one of the conversations. I have with practices will. When is the right time to sell you know. Can you time the market when a pro is about to exit. C can get higher multiple value at that. Point is is there a right time to sell. Are we a point where the dow mole to police. This such a peak of the moment now is a good time to be having these conversations and if if we left a few years that may drop is ready to any insight. You can give us on that. That did the right time. He's always strive for you as asylum. And he's always about approaching a abaya at derise stage of the cycle. You will have groups if you're talking about Right now you will have group that we go through different cycles. strategy saw at the beginning of that acquisition strategy after that initial investments. They want growing avai aggressive way so then moved to go back to be quite competitive competitive either groups. Equally was the end of this cycle when they have an offer from a product with the old or different groups or big group perhaps than there would be thinking a state by at practice the by one hundred grand lady. Top seven times for example immediate These relied ten games body you to that existing group so the end of the cycle in the beginning of the cycle for the group is always when you want to approach them sometimes like we dates in nevada biggest is also for groups. They up with interesting kind of a neat life cycle but they are behind them that vision strategy so they really want to push up that oppositions by making one group bashes or binds subtle practices and just boost that pipeline and it is just about always been in touch with groups and understanding where they are at the moment so there's no point approaching someone sample now like for example the exit democracy and i say nobody ever exit the mind. If you thrive thirty comes to the table there my considerate other not actively away twist so you always had to try to approach. Everyone wait specific emphasis on on on. Who is more active Cycle and you do you have insight into where various coal Invest life as a practice owner. Either i have no idea where corporate is any cycles of the speak. How'd you find this information out. Is that something you've got inside to for any of the culprits or yeah we don't do a partner incredible experience in the world of equity and they've lost the connection so they know what's happening in that can refer back to me so we have to. This is full partners. Essentially i'm i'm representing twenty five percent of the partnership and how the phasing business. I'm also going out. We always the mentioned. The damnedest Is beginning club is with the other two partners have got incredible experience and transactional knowledge so they know exactly. What's going on in the product. Do what we do know. There's gonna be some changes in in in groups coming fatty vice zone in this year and there are folks about what's happening mostly twenty two. Which are group's aggravating. To have that for there would boost that acquisitions companion in order to prepare for the twenty twenty two exit providing a no big changes on up taking place. And if you look at it. Most groups with discounts is exceptional so almost in considering like nothing never happened. Really because in the life cycle of group Six months a year is not incompatible ten. Fifteen years kind of disruption so that this voice happening again. He's voiced driving your actions at the moment so we see figures after february march twenty twenty and then we walk backwards and last people's for the last three years of the account. Of course we want to see while softening since the reopening winners and losers rob. Typically there are now businesses picking up new patients from from other businesses in dentistry in business. That eventually paseo opened. And now we see tian's and private practices especially they The revenues increased since the opening back in june and july. And most of them. Actually and i feel that the new patients eventually we stay within your practice because they're gonna show the loyalty that perhaps it wasn't shown by that existing practice but not not to that folk because the might not be able to operate full. Pasha open what we see happening. Covid seems to accelerate it a few things like you know a online shopping or whatever but definitely that one was a bunch of people who were on the brink of becoming private patients had enough money to be private patients but was still being seen at aaron h place and then when they couldn't be seen there anymore looks like that's help the private sector. Carlo what are you predictions going forward. What do you think would. What would you think will happen with prices you know. Let's maybe we'll get you back in a year's time if your predictions come true. What what is your prediction prices of multiple on corporates. Gimme gimme some of your like if you had to make a bet or would you say prices will stay the same and slightly in prove providing than depending on a couple of groups exit multiple shave so what we see what we saw in twenty fifteen went away season. Buca deal happened really boost prices for private practices. Which at the time. The movie was about one to one and a half below and prices and after Deal private practices were selling on the same level of has pets. Is that if we see large groups sending for move deposed below ten then of course that could potentially negatively impact valuations of single size because the single side aachen you ause higher multiple than group. Eventually that will be anonymous from the bias I don't think he's gonna be the case. Anyway i think the groups always says all that will digit and more on events multiple at include c. Couple deals happening this year. I think one is going to be is not too far from happening In few weeks away which is going to change life. The way to practicies rubik ashes and the multiple paid. I feel prices will stay the same slightly increase over. Get this yet. Can you expand on that one. No you're not in a position to delve into the the points. I would like to make pop days. That's another factor. Driving prices demand. Demand is still there. And then of course he'd thirties. Demand which is the last. You've been supply the factor that can also dry prices. You know i mean this deal you were talking about. Can you talk anymore about deal on next year. Nicer adding confidential our business about confidentiality up. I'm certain the the thing that we've been talking about is On the selling side. But it's interesting you'll your business you've got these two totally different types of people that you talk to you right. The young guy who's just getting in and then you've potentially the older guy who's just getting out but what i'm quite interested in. Its you cats who are sort of different to that model in the people who are not have stories right people who buy a practice senate two years later a profit or a loss as those stories. I do plant your stories. Day i have not sell is like flippers of dental practices. Do they exist. That's what they're up to buy and sell like houses like how's it. Whatever you know like like like shares. Yeah there are always lay. It takes time to improve on business and i also has clients who by practice. Who think they that. Just because that france practice And maybe that is not that passion and a profitable practice completely changed their life and pretty much ruin that relationship as so they come to me. Six months Said as the great practice. I don't want a divorce from my wife or my husband so you to save your relationship. What about what about them. Sort of groups like how. How far have you seen people grow in groups. Have what kind of stores that. I mean i remember guy nottingham tonight guys. Come across in dr shake. Do you ever come across guy fantastic. He had one practice prove to not come across question pro and one practice there was. It was the size of a sainsbury's it was a gigantic place. Everyone and not will know this guy. Is he still around. Does he told his group will see them. The others like us contact by a couple of years ago man by still around so other groups. Other groups. People who've grown groups insult to culprits. Would what kind of deals if you see. I think boise this accessible groups at the groups through emphases naveh on the prophet at the group that put emphasis on the dentists fast than the nation and then to profit kosta and we saw that way we they pay and a though we obviously bind for for profit by there would always tweaking is fattening because there's nothing worse than going to a group practice of co pratt and then you always seem by different. Dentist you want consistency. In and then ultimately what else agree on performance so the group that most successful they wanted to the as web and they don't focus in memphis on just the prophet and the cost savings. Because you will have this before your business and your profit and practices Just go down. And as i said before you make your money when you buy no when yourself. So there's no point in buying full A twenty practices than paying ten times multiple. If you don't have your exit for multiple mind and if you're exit in mind is always a ten. You essentially make less money with twenty practice in your group than if you just one practice in your running web. So he's about doing ride and they say that find him and profitability signing. He's got to focus on the prophets. And you gotta focus on what you pay when you buy your practice as intense of the group and by the right price really because then you we you to to accident and make some. It makes the money. Have you seen what. What are the most common mistakes people make when selling when buying of the things you wish people knew that one that you just mentioned dimovska mistakes when it's just accepting the festival and just go for it without negotiating with without involving other groups and other buyers because you might think the one upset is by because she might think is a good off but as you got one chance you might want to make sure that you do it right so he just involved. You can do that confidentiality which we do sometimes because we got enough connection unbiased do to bring the table just do enough to market and conversation you phase of the senate of our clients by you need to involve six or seven goodbyes. Because obviously you got priced as driven by your financial figures and then you go and price is driven by is prepared to pay and that you never know that don't involve more than one by today's the biggest mistake from a status perspective from the buyer's perspective this is just buying on emotion and just all the all the paying for business that you might end up working for free for the next seven to eight years in any just end up sending on loss so it's about finding the right balance really an a good deal is always on a wing wing bases you want to maximize the price on the salads. And you wanna miss you. That the buys the pain the right price. We chased sometimes the asking price more often than not east of the asking price but not crazy as an independent especially independent by. We should never call that the money that you would pay so the biggest mistakes were bias over pain. Being in the uk for the loss won't fourteen years. Yeah i arrived on the fifth of november two thousand and five and the fireworks. You doing every year thank you. What are the things you miss. Most about italy when you hear not i think i can guess but what about the other way round. Would you miss about the uk. When you're dead that's true. You know what that is absolutely true. I the thing i missed about. He something called pasta johnstown. Which as you go out for a walk and it doesn't really matter about the destination. You just go for a walk and you meet someone that you say to them. Let's go for the ostrich which is just go for a walk and you just relax and you have a nice working osama that islam. Because if i go out but as i'm lucky to me fox reported by don's really people in kid yam the countryside or by not you know you see someone outside Account for woke we met at broadway. Dinky this guy's crazy hind alignments when mainland. Sorry when i mean easily. I after a few days i miss the bazan. The things happening much faster than quicker than in england so amazed the things that happened much bleaker which is enough thinning and allow a lot bainian. Because you can make if you do the same thing if you're good enough you don't stay behind. You can make a carry out of sunday. Any delays more about. Who you know any. We'd take long time and you might never get back in. England should good and you will. You can be anything. So that's why not. Why not about my ago county like you're saying it's kind of like more of a meritocracy is less about who you know and more about what you know. That's correct. yeah. I can see. I can see that into as well. I coming coming from where i come from. There's a lot of about there's a lot of the of course by the way it d- who you know is very important to isn't it indus-. We mustn't pay hike. Rover that just for an eye on that you had to work and you you is. You got to offer ends a you can see some time. In positions of power none of society people to dissect being. And that's because who is just about who you know it kind of not. Just be about that. It was a Into something good dribbling. How did you feel about brexit when it was all going down i mean i know it all superseded with covid but in that period how are you feeling about it. I never really got the point that people talking about races millennia denied. I'm the thing is that. I hope that he won't change for people like me. Who able to come. And and have a i like to say successful carryanne and life and established myself in in england. I hope that people will have the same percentage that head in the future. So that's the thing. I really hope in of in brussels i mean Italians italians will they. So that's an. If i'm an italian wants to come to the uk. Now say say same. Chances of a boon from nigeria was to come to the uk. Now that has changed isn't it. Yeah so hopefully want detached people come in because there are many opportunities in this counter them marginal being in the county. If you lie this sort of so lifestyle. So i hope the future one change to match. I know it's changed a little bit so related to just wait in syria. So that's my only my my only thing really any time self being your mastery around then Things like died. Three hundred fifty million boggled janet chase and that'll I'd already want to guy into politics. Do match. I just hope that people will have the same opportunity that i had In the future. Because we all really if you wanna go fra. I don't see why we need to have an opportunity and she won to that. You think you're going to carry on. I mean i'm sure you offer the meantime you're going to do this. But do you think you're gonna make move back into corporate dentistry at any point. You're going to be with a friend of russian billionaire opening your own corp- chanal you. You'll perfectly positioned to right i. Several office will keenan and going back in days annonay acquisitions to level off level. I have a massive degree of loyalty and respect and trust to my partners. I want to baden at the succeed. I know we will. I know we have bringing competition into the marketplace which is a great thing right because competition as the makes people less complacent lacy and that's what we live two. I run and i wear. You may excess. And that's my only focused right now but we'll pluto potent as itself. Change other than practice broking. Do you think that going forward. You guys gonna do other activities. That he's the the plan They longtime plant so if you if you just think about who's oh instead of being a planet or rock think about to as the sun we understand stab is opening round so we having the pipeline in twenty twenty one and twenty to twenty two kind of subsidiary businesses communist tobacco devoutness all lanes and related to not just dentistry hell so we are in the process of expanding so we. We grew year on year since we started off years ago. We have hotline. Now is stronger than ever in vague leasing. Great cold days and we'd just growing by adding additional services to dentistry fast and then to have cat after. Goes mike speed again again. He's not just dentistry also. Gp practices need In fantasies in fact so at the moment we are taconite students to to provide a different savage dentistry. Are we then wanted then. Expanded and then going back to the cassava. So the plan going forward downs. Great sounds great. If has the main thing really. If i sell my practice and get two million pounds for whenever Would you would you guys help me. Spend invest my money as well do you. Have you got that side of it. So the wealth one of our partner wanted the full company providing that a wealth management savage is gone last davis in society that we went management advising on freehold disposal in the accountancy. Possibly yet. we do it. we can't have On non meat passionately by we got experts. They can have on how to best investments and money so other if you've listened to this because before but to end his final question so noxious i. It's been great speaking an You know i. I know for personally having conversations with us the business aside you know family in health the incredibly important to you and i see that on your social posts is as well as the conversations. We've had so. I've got a final question. I usually ask at the end of the podcast. A couple of questions and then i've got a new question for twenty twenty one run a it sense yuban first testing this owl knox. So there's question comes back to imagine is your last day on the planet and you've got your loved ones around you and you need to leave them with three pieces of advice. What would those pieces of advice bay. Secondly the second question is how would you like to be remembered. And then the third question. I'm going to let you know after the events that those first to travel the won't leave your with passion and becoming the fear beautiful and so olot revolves around enjoying. You'll live neom. payment discussion about this. Today didn't late and if someone wants to summarize your legacy how would you like to be remembered. Max oh while not like what would be written on sunday. Night of maxwell's sunday night up your maxwell's finish the sentence Maxwell's ali one hundred years. Old question martin. Posted to me max. Yeah a good father so that would be the best achievements. ray i i kind of. I didn't know out from the conversations we've had in the passionate everything involves around family and so my final final question is this. You've got twelve months left on this planet. You know that is the fact yeah. How's your life going to change over the next twelve months where you're gonna do. I actually continued to wind going because a couple of days ago was my best day and i started the day to day and i absolutely did i as a special day but you know. He was like day before the day after so mike is coming. Anakin may my wash next to me which i love and adult. I have everything i need and i'm doing. Something really loved doing i. I found my passion. And i kind of developed it. So i gotta undoing. What if you've only had the twelve days left to go to work for those twelve hundred and probably probably run more than anything and maybe there was some staff more staff in my family really intense walk. I don't look for twelve hours left. Would you go to wickford. Nine of those. I know of payment was wrong secrets. My grave question is the question so we could go over you say and we doing something together. That doesn't really matter. I'm probably going to ship actually gone and cruise announced. Nice nice. nice you to this question man. Twelve months a long time. It just feels like a long time. You can get that from a lot of people you if you say one month month no here you go one month i take my family. My mom and dad's my kids my wife and we're gonna walk throughs lovely beautiful proud We've got to close it but might consist been just really lovely having you on. I'm hearing your back. Story is being wonderful and then diving heavily into what's going on right now you've been very open with it so it's been it's been an education. Thank you so much my absolute pleasure. Thank you thank you. Max thank you. This is dental leaders. The podcast way you get to go one on one with emerging leaders in dentistry. You'll heyman landry. I'm proud solanki. Thanks soliciting guys. If you got this volume must listen to the whole thing and just a huge. Thank you both from me and pay their actually sticking through and listening to what we had to say in august has had to say. Because i'm assuming you've got some value out of it if you did get some value out of it think about subscribing and if you would share this with a friend you think might get some value out of it to thank you so so so much for listening. Thanks don't forget a six star rating.

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Oedipus Rex his mother

Greek Gods and Human Mythtakes

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Oedipus Rex his mother

"Yeah Hey guys welcome back. I'm Neil on student visas. Greek guys human mistakes. Our last we left you off with the happily ever after perseus. Who had just ridden away on the Pegasus? Endo no no and what we always do on the show. We leave you with a happy episode. Every ten or fifteen and then we hit you with some facts so here we're coming back with the real tragedy. Oedipus the real tragedies pegasus thrown him with Percy's and Bellerophon will not be here to rescue him today and that is unfortunate unfortunate indeed all right so the last episode. I started off with giving you guys just a little bit of details on the the world of Athens and their social structure that was going on the fifth century or sixth century BC. I'm GonNa give you just a little bit of details for kind of how the tragedies were functioning and how they they operated to give you some more details than dozens gonNA take it away with the truly haunting episode year of oedipus. He's way excited about this. And I don't really know why okay. So couple things on it when we say Greek tragedy. That doesn't necessarily mean that the story is going to be sad or upsetting or anything like that. It didn't have the same meaning for them as it did to us. So the the origins of the word either means goat song or it could be a song forum goat so they're not sure it could have been a competition for goat or just a song exactly no goat like thank you for the and originally so the tragedies they started to they were held at festivals for diagnosis and they were held at a most. Most of them were held at a very important festival at the city of which was part of Athens. And what would happen was they would have three contestants that would enter. They were What all throughout the year a plight would enter his three plays that he was gonNA do. They would all do three at a time. Most of them were a trilogy. Where they all related sophocles? Who wrote oedipus his did not his were stand standalone so for oedipus he would do three just standalone Different plays and what they would do. Is THEY ENTER? It and an arcand would decide what three plays out of the probably hundreds or thousands that got entered would be selected in those three would be given to a high end high and citizen of Athens. Who would then pay to have this? This play funded. So the the Athenians required that all of their their their rich citizens find do at least one funding event for their festivals. And this was one way of doing it and some way came the word for liturgy. I can't remember the exact name for it so they would go there. Then at this festival the three different playwrights would compete against each other so at one point in time Sophocles Euripides. `scuse all competed against each other with different playwrights. We'll just some fun facts for you. Some heavy hitters. Oh Yeah and then so a couple of things I want WANNA point out to you at the the biggest and most important tragedies that come through throughout Greece happen in the sixth century BC. So that's about five hundred so that century there and some huge things happen during this timeframe which would have helped it. So you're going to be between the the Persian wars where Persia tried to invade Greece both times so that's going to be from anywhere from four ninety two four eight. Abc All the way down to pass the Peloponnesian more which ended at about four four. So you've got got some pretty important stuff and you're going to see that in the actual events that happen so for instance there's play there's going to be a big play. And they believe that that play or the plague that was written about birth thieves actually correlates with the famous. Athenian played which ended up killing pericles. Peloponnesian war. So these things that we're like. Wow that I mean that is kind of catastrophic but the the playwrights had a way of making these things important to them to in you would just kind of see themselves. A couple of things that go line with the plays is out of the thousand plus plays that they know happened in that timeframe of the fifth century. We have only thirty two that have survived so approximately three percent. So you're GONNA see a lot of different people like Freud. Perhaps we'll try to say that certain things mean this or that because obviously that's what is an all of these plays but it'd be like saying that if let's say part of part of King Lear like act three of King Lear existed and then act one of Romeo and Juliet existed. And they're able to make that correlate that doesn't mean anything because they don't have the whole amount of things so just be careful when you read about things that people are saying mean certain different aspects to it and with that Destin was headed off with some tragedy. Oedipus strategy yes already will order start. Oedipus you gotta start with lies now. Lila's was the king thebes and he visited the Oracle and Oracle warned him that one day his own son would slay him and then Mary his wife so the Sun would kill his father and then Mary his mother. It's pretty chilling right already. Starting off wild so after this after this prophecy was foretold to him when his wife Ju bore son he had the baby exposed. Because he's like you know what I'm not dealing with that we're just gonNA take the baby we're GONNA bound it. I'M GONNA leave it In the Wilderness of Mount Saharan. And we'll just let nature take. Its course I'm gonNA bind his feet. Yep Up van for some holes in those angles. You and leave him out. They're just leaving them. Altered die pretty sad but luckily ashore unluckily yeah or unluckily in this case a shepherd took pity on the infant and brought him back. Brought him back home with him. Once he returned home to Corinth the baby was then adopted by King Paulo abyss of Corinth and his wife. Actually so partially. So what happened was he took him in and then realized that because the other one the one in corinth is a different ones. There are two different shepherds. And you'll see I know but I was referring to. I wasn't getting to that point yet. I'm leaving that part of secret. Okay Yeah I was sitting at a certain way but a so the show from Corinth takes him back home. And that's when he's adopted by King Politics of Corinth in his wife just couldn't have can they just They couldn't do it. One of the scores in favour is like I've got a kid doesn't look like maybe you can have got want him. Yeah I promise. He's not a slave me all right as I only. Then will this Child a name oedipus and when he reaches early manhood he. Here's kind of whispers of false patronage and stuff like that so out of curiosity he goes to the Oracle Delfi while the Oracle tells him that he is bound by fate to murder his father and Mary his mother. So He's like well. I don't want that to happen at any cost. So what I'M GONNA do is. I'm GonNa stay as far away from Corinth as possible. I'm going to hit the road. I'm going to go abroad and leave all this behind me that way. The prophecy can be fulfilled. You know I'm not banging. My mom signed sealed delivered and going to happen now so he begins travelling towards the city of thebes now on his way there he encounters lioness who is the king of thieves and his goons and they kind of provoke a fight. Yeah 'cause they try to push him out of the way with their wagon and one thing leads to another and oedipus ends up killing four of the five members of that group and the fifth one was managed to escape dallies. Now yeah he he was like I saw Neil for. I'm I'm just a lowly. So we so we. Sally takes over on it. So after this encounter oedipus makes his way towards Thebes. Now when he's near the area he finds that the areas plagued by Sphinx. Nam sure all you guys have heard of Phoenix. It's you know Egypt predominantly known for it but in You know the Egyptian one has got the body of a lion. The head of human will in this tale both of those apply. It's got the body of a lion the head of a woman actually but to throw in a little mix also had wings now. It's terrorizing thieves in the way it's doing it. Is it asks or riddle that had heard that heard from the muses and whenever someone doesn't answer the riddle right the fingers eats them just vowers them so he's just going around a or she. I'm sorry goes around and his asking everyone this riddle and when they don't get it they get eating well. Our boy oedipus shows up and she tells the riddle to him in. The riddle is as such what it that has one voice and yet becomes four footed two-footed and three footed pretty tricky. Well are follower Adelphia. I hope I said that right. Posted a mean says it could have been a poke him on and they can't know all the names for that and that one was a pretty good name. I was pretty spectacular. It was pretty good team but that wasn't the answer to this. One what is it? Oedipus gave the proper answer and the answer is man now. You might be a little confused by that so I will go into his explanation. A man crawls on all fours and infancy then once it's an adult. It walks onto and then leans on a staff when old equaling three appendages. The stand on and it also has one voice. This being the correct answer calls the Sphinx to then kill herself because apparently that was just the end of her world that someone could guess that right. I mean once it gets out it gets out. Yeah everyone's going to her meal ticket. Yes she was like. Whoa now. The news is deal with the first stab boone. They gave me. I don't know what they're gonNA do now so I guess I guess I'm Lou for them out at least eaten them forgetting to right. I mean yeah but then we don't have an people talk so much smack about the things like I mean she's GonNa stor. I'm just GONNA kill myself regardless you never know. Also I haven't never answer to that. I riddle off be on. It's not below for feet Pegasus. Two Legs Blair Ifan. Three same answer is good schizophrenia. Hate you Vaughn twos not Bellerophon so after this things is killed as reward for ridding thieves of the Sphinx. Oedipus is actually given the throne of thieves and the widowed Queen Giacosa together. They had four children for wonderfully is too close children. Some wrong turns Julian six fingers now. The children were a talk. Lists Polices Attiyah glaze typically Polynesia's Antigone and is mini ice. Yes in taken it. You got it in your practice on that one I did. I did practice on that one because I thought of antiquity. Just antigone at it. You WanNa say you WANNA say Anti-gun or an Iguana but it's it's antigone now now that the groundwork is laid let's get into Sophocles play titled Oedipus Rex. Yes now. I know I know that sounds funny to us. You gotta remember. Rex Means King. So it's Oedipus the king it is what it actually means in Greek but it does sound funny just like I'm GonNa read oedipus. Rex at a the tyrannosaurus rex. All right so let's kick this playoff with where it takes place now. The play takes place in front of the Royal Palace of thieves and at the start The city is in turmoil. An oedipus cryonic who's his brother-in-law he is the brother of Queens Kosta to go to the Oracle in order to figure out why they're city is plagued with such. You know drama. I guess you can put so. There's so much stuff going on. It's just it's it's not going Gomo. Yeah so creole. Creole arrives any ASS. Oedipus if he wants to hear the news privately or publicly well oedipus being being the king insists he wishes all to here. So Korean describes the oracles order to expel a pollution. That is in Thebes in this pollution is what's causing all the negative things to happen so this this makes oedipus curious he's I will. How do we expel this pollution and Crayon answers with well you can either exile pollution or kill in return for killing so I for an eye pretty much either exile or or kill them? Those are two options. Well oedipus demands know whose blood needs to be or whose blood was shed that this needs to happen will create. That's when Koran tells of Elias. And how he was killed with his group but only there was only one member of the party that actually survived and that they were the that one member of the party came back and said that they were attacked by bandits. Now we'll get to that later. Keep that in mind. Oedipus says he'll dispel the pollution. And then he orders the citizens of thieves to tell him who killed lioness if they know he also demands that if someone does know that culprit that culprit be shunned. Like don't pray with him. Don't eat with him. Nothing he is nothing act like he doesn't exist. Meanwhile there's a group of I guess you could say noblemen of the city. I guess the they're called the chorus. They're like they're talking for the People. They've met with oedipus as well. Yeah the the chorus in these plays. They typically ended up being just the role of the citizens so these players typically they. They have three people who are playing all these rules. That's why you won't see too many people at once. It's three actors granted. There's obviously more people in the scenes but sophocles. I believe it was the first one. The introduce the reactors before then it was too so before they were very limited but the the way that they're able to do the the chorus the person who is the the prison who find it he gets to lead them in the song and then they represent someone in the episode with With agamemnon death He they are representative of the the older wise people that waited for him to come back to war. This one is just like the the actual citizens now. You are correct. Thank you all right. Back to the play Now the chorus the leader of this course that we spoke about suggests a man named Teresi can help due to being able to see with the is a focus so he is Kinda blessed as a seer you know. He didn't so you yeah. This is an epithet for Paulo. Yeah so so. They believe that he can see all and we'll have knowledge on the situation. Which if you guys remember. He's the one that Hera cursed with blindness. He said women enjoy sex more format he gets thrown another kind of situation where he doesn't WanNa answer. He's not lived a good life. No he always gets put in a pickle and it's not very fun. Yeah well once. Once the course leader suggests this oedipus oedipus kind of let's know like Yeah I've already sent escorts for him twice to bring him back. Dot Com. Yeah and he will come. We'll finally Tiresias does arrive. And oedipus asks vers knowledge and Teresi is he's reluctant he's like you know what? I don't have a dog in this fight just kind of leaving home kind of lead me out. Just send me home. I don't WanNa do semi home like five times. He does he calls says me home. Well oedipus isn't too happy with this and he actually tries to like poke and prod and you know get him upset kind of go to give him the answer by claiming that he betrays his homeland by not speaking. This doesn't work. This proves to be fruitless. So then oedipus starts the bag like dude please. For the love of Eve's tell me what you know now the to begin kind of making each other angry and they're kind of hurling insults at each other a one point. Oedipus tells Theresa's that he could even drive a stone to rage because he won't give him what he wants so the more oedipus insists the anger. The angry retiree skids and the more. I research refuses to angrier. Oedipus kids so it's just a vicious circle right now. They're just pissing each other offering because they won't give each other what they want. So when oedipus finally accuses tiresias of having schemed this whole deed. That's one Teresi is finally reveals. Oedipus is the killer that he is seeking. Oedipus is looking for himself. Well obviously oedipus does not believe this so he denies it and the to kind of bicker and hurled insults at each other some more entire EC starts telling them things. He's Kinda of talking riddles yet. And this this upsets. Oedipus and oedipus lets them know it's like in that scene of Hercules hades is trying to get the the fate and he's like only verse because they're rhyming. It's a good reference so et so oedipus. Let's Teresi know that. He is upset with him. Talking to riddles like dude to speak English. I don't know what you're saying. And then Theresa's delivers a really really awesome. Yeah Yeah kind of smart ass response. And he's like are. You are champion. Riddle solver is because that's what we'd say and do each other well Address this oedipus like Oh yeah mock me for what? I'm known to be grateful for and this and that save the city from villa. He actually hits some back with some some good points to because he's like well you plan to be speak for feebis own and yet even though he came to you couldn't solve the riddle yet. I just they know nothing can solve a riddle that was so perplexing to the Great Seretide. Tell me what you now. You know it like Dan okay. Yeah they were going at it man. There they were on. It brought the heat and they weren't holding bag. They were going at each other's throats so after their heated exchange tiresias. He ends up leaving in a huff. But not before declaring that the man who killed lioness was there as a guest from abroad but soon to emerge as a native even though he will take no pleasure in that discovery is how it works you also another quote from his as blind instead of seeing beggar instead of rich will make his way to a foreign land feeling the ground with a steak yet. He hit some hard. Yeah so that's foreboding foreshadow and so oposite there because there's a couple of things that a lot of people with the dramatic irony of it thank you know. Why doesn't oedipus realize that Harris's speaking the truth there's a couple of things so first off why are why is he so mad at wool for one day receives is literally the only person who can save themes and yet all he wants to do is say send me home so automatically? That's going to enrage a king who's trying to save his people within the more. He presses them the angry he gets and keeps trying to get him to be sent home and then he goes on and he says you're the person you're the murderer that you seek and that that doesn't make any sense. There's no way that he could be burder of lies. Because it was reported that lasts was killed by. Oedipus knows I've I've never been in a group of mandate so that can't be me so I obviously could not kill Liasson. Speaking speaking out of turn and you're not making any sense so then going along with it he starts to wonder why on. Earth would you be trying to cover for the person who tried to murder because he even says at one point? If you're not blind I would say that you were in fact the person who had struck down lies and then he goes back and forth with them again and then finally he starts to wonder you have to realize the only reason why he is the king of thieves is because he's the Ruutel solved the riddle and he married a Kosta. Takata is only way of getting to the throne. There's also her brother who's his best friend who is on. Who is the actual has a better case to make it to the throne. Because in Greek Greek city states. They didn't actually allow the kings to pass down to the wife. It would be the closest relation if they didn't have a child so with this. It should technically by Greek. Athenian Law be Crayon. So he's always going to be watching his back and every single time that something like this happens back then there were always worried about someone throwing someone overthrowing a king and I talked about this a little bit in the last episode. We I said you have to realize this is a double time stamp so the first time stamp is this is obviously around the homeric age before fifth century. Fifth or Sixth Century Ancient Greece. But then on top of that he sophocles is writing this around four eighty and trying to make sure that you are his try making it for his audience who are in that timeframe and obviously the tyrant is always going to be flawed. Missed that all these plays are going to have an actual king. There's no democracies because they didn't exist yet but they're going to show the Athenian democracy is the better course so Just a little snapshot for what goes on it. And that's the main reason why he doesn't believe in it though. Exactly we'll said take it back so after therese leaves this now. This one place are spicer and us. Oedipus Crayon the chorus leader kind of joy each other for a bit and oedipus ends up accusing Crayon of being the culprit because he was the one that went to the Oracle. And then do you know didn't really give him too much information so we think he thinks he's hiding while round this time. Joe Kosta. Who's at his wife. Now approaches out. Giacosa what's going on and she and the course leader plead to let cooler you know. Look Cooler Heads Prevail. And you know convince them that it wasn't creepy on like Crayon. Could not have done you guys. Friends come on light note also. Giacosa takes his time to try to Kinda put oedipus at ease telling him of the Prophecy. That lies was told of which is that lies is on will kill him. But the infant was bound and exposed therefore therefore that the prophecy that prophecies don't always come true was the point she's trying to make you know allows died many years later after the baby was exposed near Near where three roads meet. Therefore the gods prophecies aren't always accurate like I said she's trying to put them at ease like a couldn't know and no matter what promises don't happen you know accurately because of this is my husband. Well she said something that. The interest of oedipus and that is that he was killed near a road that connects to three and actually i. I wanted to go ahead and quote that because it's such a powerful line it so she says this Giacosa speaking right here. She says approval to you. Know great length and Oracle came the last ones. I won't say that it was feebis himself. So she's saying that she won't say that the Oracle was speaking through Paulo just set. The oracle was of Apollo but from his underlings that his fate was to be killed by his own child. The son that would be born to him and me now is for lice. The rumor is that the stranger strangers bandits strangers or bandits killed him one day our three rows me as for the child not three days past his birth why is bound together and had them thrown into the path Lewis Mountainside and so it didn't cause the child to be his father's killer or make lies meet the fate. He feared that the child's hand such where the prophecies always down clearly. No need to trouble. You for what God desires reveal to. You are to us so she saying. Don't there's no reason to worry about an oracle says because obviously the oracles can't always speak the truth because this is an instance but it doesn't help make things worse? He's like ooh. Yeah Yeah exactly getting back to that kind of pump. The brakes moment. Oedipus is like hey so you said he died near a road that leads to three that you know leads. The three city is three roads. Yeah that's what I said. He's like all right. Well this troubles oedipus and he asked where that location is she tells him it's in focus and that it also leads to Delfi and Dallas while this makes oedipus even more worried and he's like okay. That's where I was quite troubling. That is where I was when those guys provoked. Okay agree so okay. I need some more information. So then he asked when it happened and she told him that the message was received when he had arrived in Thebes. So that the timing adds a to win. He was passing through that area and encountered those men that provoked him they. I might have ice this guy. Yes so now. It's now the fear starting to build up even more and he's kind of starting to sense the truth here so then he asked what Elias Look like. She responded with while he had dark-haired that was just breaking into gray in looks he didn't differ much from from you. Oedipus okay so he's like all right. Okay I'm I'm I gotTa tell you something. Yeah I got asked one more thing just to make sure I'm pretty sure let's be real sure. He then asked if lying had traveled alone or with a group she tells them there was five total evidence becomes clear now that he was the culprit so he who the Messenger was she says the Messenger that told him of license. Death was the sole survivor of that group. So then oedipus immediately asked is he in the house. Is he year. She said no when he saw you the throne he begged I send him off which is unusual because she she kind of makes a pretty open comment here. She's like he was a nice guy. I leave and it's like well. Yeah that's real. It was the least I could do for a slave. I delivered the news of my father and my husband's death. Yeah at least you showed up and show me what real man was so. It's funny because it's his son so with knowledge he's like okay. I need to talk to this guy. So he's like get him back ASEP and joke also pretty much like why why I can. I can get him here. But why do you want him here? What's the big deal that's one? Oedipus explains his upbringing. In Corinth and how rumors of a rumors around the city made him question as patterns. Like hey you know you. Don't you're not really they're capable Blah Blah this and that so he went to his parents and Told him about it and the rumors of said them as much as it did him and they told him. Don't worry about it. It's nonsense just rumours. We'll still eaten Adam. So he took it upon himself to go to the Oracle Delfi and find out for himself won't when he gets there you her hair lease you know as before where they just. Kinda they don't answer your question they just tell you something else and you're like what we'll good Aria. So oedipus goes there and he asked the Oracle and Oracle. The lower tells him is that he his fate is to murder his father and kill his mother. So that's why he left Corinth because he did not want that prophecy to be fulfilled. Ray and it's important to also note to with what you're saying like where they don't answer the fact that they didn't answer yes or no. He actually took that as affirmation that those are his parents. So you're probably thinking well if he's worried that he's going to be having sex with his mother. Why would he leave? If he's not sure well he took that Apollo giving that answer. May that's your mom. Yes set your dad but you probably should book it because you're about the banger and he's like ooh. I WANNA do that. So that explains also why he in Jakarta don't have this Eureka moment right now and instead have to take a little bit longer. The play is because it's already been confirmed to him even when he's fighting with them Terry says. Do you know who your mother is? Yes that's I mean. That's kind of a strange thing to ask me. Yes I do. My Mom and dad are okay so move on e yeah. Can't you see oh way mic? Drop yeah so it's easy for us. Because we know the ending and it was easy for the Greeks because they knew the ending. But for you gotta give the benefit of the doubt because he feels like a Powell has spoken Apollo told him yes he should not be near. police are police and our poll. Paulo bus and Morobi because otherwise kill him and then have sex with his mom so he dipped and just because two people had the same prophecy. I'm sure numerous people at the same prophecies doesn't mean anything probably so after after he tells Giacosa of bringing he then tells of the strangers who provoked a fight on this road the first instance of road rage. Right here perhaps. Yeah so walking here. I'm walking thank you. I get so. He's walking down the road and these guys kind of like. Try to bully out of the road and this wagging and he tells her that and he's like you know one hit me so I killed him and the other one hit me so I killed and just killing him. Pretty much with other people touching me. Yeah I'll just domino fair. I'll kill an album but then one ran away and got away and so he's like that adds up. It's in the same spot. I killed four of them out of the five. I had to be the one to do it so he wants to confront that sole survivor to be. Sure like yeah. He said it was banned but he might have been lying when he saw me. So as king now so I just WanNa know. So that's what he explains. Causton GIACOSA explains back to him that even so it wouldn't make the prophecy of licenses are license fate square because Lila's was meant to be killed by his son but that wasn't possible. They were thinking because his son was left to be exposed and he was killed by bandits. Allegedly any and if it wasn't killed by bandits if he was killed by oedipus then the prophecy will still wrong. Yeah according to them. Oedipus agrees with that point like. Yeah Yeah you're right but I just need to be sure. Kosta then praised. She goes off and she prays to Apollo. On behalf of oedipus like you know he's losing it right now he's super worried and anxious about this. Please do something to make this. Go away virtually what she's asking. I don't think she realizes that. He cursed himself at the very beginning of the play because he let no man allow this man near his hardest. Let no man allow him in his all right to share their bed so sure bit. Pray eat together well Sean. That plague will continue until this man is either exiled or killed and He might be the person and she got. Stop worrying about it. Honey no big deal. You don't even know the life I've had thank you. Were throwing that in there. Around this time the Messenger arrives any asked to see oedipus. So while he's brought to the Palace Joe cost greets him I and they messenger explains to her. That abyss king of Corinth has died. That is the man that oedipus believes to be his father and she's like Oh splendid. Went great news like okay. I guess that is good news. Yeah he's a he's a bit befuddled because she's like. Oh my God that's awesome. Yeah he's going to be so so pleased is going to be so hype it he's Oh. So oedipus oedipus comes in and he wants to know what's going on so they deliver him the news and he how he died if he was if he was killed by treachery or feels illness and the Guy. Pretty much tells him. It was old age when naturally well since oedipus did not kill him he kinda feels. The prophecy was incorrect. However he still fearful to return home because then he'll afraid he'll mary his mom. Yeah because he even says and at one point he's like Oh that's exciting and then he's like wait. What if you were yeah? Yeah you're right when he died from a broken heart. Yeah what if he died because I left and directly killed him loops than if I go back home? I'll marry my mom. I'm GonNa have to take her and have fun yes. He's apparently how oedipus thinks the world works. She's to go home and you won't be able to resist. It's going to have is way back. I mean master riddle sober brutal care how to resist his own mother right so over but well after hearing this the Messenger explains that he's like. Hey man you got nothing to fear worry about it. And oedipus is like what do you mean the Messenger tells them. Hey Paul. Wasn't your father episode like what? What wasn't he he was my dad and the Messenger like he was no more your dad than I am. And he's like what do you mean and the Messenger tells them neither he nor I produced you and then the messenger goes on to explain what he means. He's like I was a shepherd and found you. In the wild mouse with Erin is approximately halfway between thieves and Corinth by the way. Is it interesting? He's like yeah. Yeah I found you there. Another shepherd actually gave you to me and it was It was found out to be one of alliances man was the shepherd that gave him to this other shepherd. So then oedipus was like. Who does this man who knows who the shepherd is twice? I must speak with him. Yeah who knows this man? He worked for worked for lies. If you know who is telling me so the chorus leaders actually was like A. I believe he's the guy you're looking for already. He's the sole survivor that you requested. And he's like Oh that's convenient. Actually it sets up. Probably the the biggest event that I've ever read in Just literature history so this is GonNa be the coolest aspect of it because we've got two men to sleeves ended up witnessing every major faucet of his life he's the one that witnessed him being left in the wild he hands a mob. He witnessed his father dying. This other one was one that picked him up and then he also witnesses other father die so these two people are just the forces that are just GonNa make climax hit home and was like. Please don't do this though. Yeah I was just about to say Giacosa Johnson and she tries to her husband. Just ignore all this like hey stop worrying about it get it out of your head. You're you're you're you're program places. You don't WanNa go. He was he was earlier. Yes in more ways than many times four times four times. At least at least we'll oedipus refuses her request so this Causes Jakarta Cossutta. Beg like please. I'm begging you stop at a business. Oedipus thanks this is a status thing. So he's like look look honey talks down. I assure I assure you that if I'm a slave you will not be found Loeb born quote unquote so if turns out I'm a slave and you're married to me. No one's going to look down on you and that you are a you know lower born and she she begs even more. She's like you know what knows what I'm talking about. Please stop just stop. Leave a be. But oedipus won't hear it. He has to get to the bottom of this. Let's call Giacosa storm off like whatever I can't deal with this shortly. After that the shepherd arrives and oedipus explains the Shepper or no The shepherd Wants to shepherd arrives. He explains the oedipus that he was a slave reared in the house. You know he wasn't bought. He was grew up in the house and that he spent most of his life tending flocks the air and lands. So oedipus is like. Do you recall this man and he points out the best singer that said that he picked him up. Never seen him before my life. Yeah he's like. Oh Yeah. I've seen many men I don't. I don't think I know this guy. He's like. No no remember me. Yeah exactly what head? He's like. Oedipus hold on. I'll I'll I'll refresh his memory. I got this so worn out. So he's like hey remember. We spent like a spring summer winter together. I had one flock you had to. We're opens their mountains. Bob Law this and that and the guy's like Oh. Yeah Yeah I remember that. Yeah I remember you. And then the messengers like you remember giving me a baby remember. Hand me a baby. The guys like Whoa. What's the meaning of this like what's happening? Yeah oh I didn't think I was GONNA GET GRILLED. What's third degree? What do you want? What does this about? And he's like well this guy right here. That's the baby maybe game. He's right here and the the messengers like he puts a curse. Oh He's like a put a curse on you learn how to hold your tone and it was like Whoa okay edifice. Hey calm down man we chastising him for your the one that needs to be chastised because you're not telling US everything so he Kinda Prod Z. Moore's has guy like aid. Why don't you tell me what what each is in this guy for telling me what's going on so he? The the shepherd is reluctant. He's like you know what I'm not telling you. I'm not telling you anything. I won't undo this. I want to come here to begin with. I'm out and that's when oedipus gets mad and he's like look you're gonNa tell me what's happening or I'm going to torture you symbols at and the guys like come on you're not going torture an old man. Just let me go and that abyss like our guards but his bond is back guards and he's like okay. Okay Okay I'll tell you just don't torture me. So he tells him that. The child came from the House of Lioness. That's all he says I and this doesn't satisfy oedipus he's like. Yeah but who did the child come from in the House of lies and the the the shepherd doesn't want to give that information up and he's like please don't make me say he's like I'm so close to tell him you would. I don't want to say and that was like yeah. Well I'm close to here in it. I'm close to putting your foot off. Yes so tell me. And it takes. Oedipus threatening death upon him for him to finally spill the beans and he's like this. The child was licenses. He was the son of Lila's in Kosta. And then he's like that's when the light bulb hits like Omar God everything. All these prophecies came true. I did everything I could to avoid it and it still happened all those bad things that he did yup flashbacks so like the world's longest run back to Dacosta because Had to make many breaks of throwing out. Yeah so it doesn't say it in the play but we know it. Yeah we know it happened. So he wants to know why the child was exposed and he says he was exposed and fear of evil prophecies. But I couldn't leave him there. I gave him away out of pity. I thought he would be taken far away. And wouldn't you know not have to deal with any of this is life will be spared and everything would be gravy. Well like I said. Oedipus realizes everything and he kind of goes into a state of madness. He puts every all the puzzle pieces together. The master riddle solve solver is finally solve this riddle and it is not pretty. It's soul crushingly devastating. He is at his wits end. Well not only him but you costo has figured it all out to and she kind of goes crazy as well. She is screaming pulling out her hair. Just you know going crazy. And she locks herself in the bedchamber. And when they finally breakthrough oedipus breakthrough. She is hung herself. She's dead obviously. This is just pilot more wood on the fire for oedipus and in just like a moment of rage and self just degradation. He grabs her gold broaches and gouges out his eyes and people like. Why did you do that? He's like I I? I could see couldn't see anything good my whole life. So why should I have is? Yeah there there's kind of two fold part of that so obviously sabotage is that goes hand in hand with Theresa episode where I talked about how clear sight and blindness the whole whole play. There's this little thing where Sophocles is hammering home. Clear sight so clear say I. It's so overused in Greek Stuff that it's hard for me to even call it a metaphor even in my notes I put quotations around metaphor a metaphor for insight and knowledge so every time they meet at like. Oh the clear-sighted the the intelligence so the only person that could see this entire time was tire. Easiest MILWAUKEE has no is the entire play is about how I received with being blind could see but then by blinding himself with her broaches he becomes able to finally see so go into that a little bit what he meant when he said I've had vision my whole life but haven't been able to see anything worthwhile because even though he can see he couldn't see all the stuff happening around him and yeah that's what he meant by and there's also something very important that that goes on with this to the the women's broaches they hold up the Togo your little. It made her bare breasted. So it takes him back to becoming almost child essence. Specter's adolescence. The press that fed him fed his children which is really weird to think about children slush. Anytime you see blinding. There is arguments that binding is a metaphorical castration. In this instance. It's hard to deny it. I don't agree with Freud on most anything which I'll probably go into at the end of this episode. But this time it's a little bit tougher can definitely agree. I can't stand Freud and I'm going to try to destroy his argument at the end but that's about it. You have multiple anyway. So after. He got out his eyes. And all that happens. Oedipus has crayon exile him because that will remove the pollution from thebes and you know so so that curse will be rectified. But before he gets exiled he wants to say goodbye to his children slash siblings so Cryan agrees he brings them and oedipus Ghana shares one little goodbye and then create like. Are you gotta go get an ETA? This is I. Don't take him away from come on. Come on go me and you don't look at them you don't look at it. Wouldn't even look at them. Get them out of here. He can't see you anyway. Here's here's a couple of slave children. They'll be kids for now. Yeah and that is. That is how the play concludes with his children. Being pulled away from them and him being exiled. Kinda bomer Google would use. What did you say they'll be one of the first Written accounts of a twist it. Yeah I mean because it is a twist to the I mean even if you know the story you don't know if you need to know the ending you don't know how it gets there. The middle I think Sophocles is the one that invents the blindings. I'm sure that part was. Yeah but did not see that coming. I'm GONNA go ahead. I'm going to go ahead and chocolate up. First twists in human history and storytelling written storytelling. I guess to Casa was like now. I am your mother. I see what you did there. He gets it I give him here for. Yeah it's what you're here for just that interest else just a little funny things it just makes you wonder though we're was Blair on where was he could rectify the situation. Yup. Ww on Pegasus and everything would be like a while. I'm taking you by the way that was your mom. Let me get you knowledge real quick well just to kind of put a conclusion to oedipus is story there's still more to the lineage of oedipus that we're going to get into before oedipus after his exile. He was accompanied by his daughter. His daughters antigone and Is many this is a different persons play but yeah yeah. It's a different. That's why the present and Sophocles in that way but yeah the the. Yeah yeah someone added to it and the and and there's Oedipus actually ends up dying near Athens when he is swallowed into the earth and actually becomes a sort of Guardian hero of that land which worst gardening ever imagine praying for a hero. And then oedipus here and it's just like oh great daredevil awesome swollen ankles no is in a bunch of incense great. That's my here praying for her hair cleese and I got oedipus de out all of the heroes almost like they didn't send someone. Yeah I mean who knows? He answered riddles for I. Guess if you're in a pickle that shows up definitely doesn't have the site down ridler over here oedipus anyway. That concludes oedipus story but his children. Kinda continue on with a few things. his His sons are the main characters in the seven against Thebes. Play or story. Yeah. That's a good one. It is a good one. We kind of did a brief summary on that. Just just to give you a quick gist of what that's about. Now after oedipus exile his sons Paula. Nieces and how did you say the other brothers name a talk lous at at Attiyah cleese Attiyah cleese? The typically agreed to rule the kingdom together like kind of like joint custody. And I got this this amount of time. You got it this time so on so forth because what could go wrong. Yeah Yeah because that always works out so wooded becomes Polynesia's stern rule Eddie alkalies right that you said it works refused and had him exiled. Polynesia's gathered an army afterwards. Like you know what you ain't GonNa Kazmi me. I like that. So he gathered an army in Argos with the help of seven leaders in those seven leaders were Tedious Cope Aeneas address this accommodation Parthenon Partha Pius amphibious and of course Paul himself so they got this group of seven going on now during the battle they were confronted at seven gates of Thebes by an equal number of defenders that were in a a tall. Say His name again. I can't A. TI NOW. Typically had six leaders as well with him to make seven and those other leaders were Melanin Pontus mcgarry. I pro- high pervious actor and last India's a lot of es's and then they throw an actor actor. He's out of that team he doesn't fit it doesn't now maybe it's for have changed. Name is added is that the story is now just before the just before. The brothers confronted each other at the seventh gate They remembered their fathers curse that the two brothers would divide the kingdom by the sword and remembering that curse there like all right might as well. Just go with an means. Let's do this. They so with that in mind They go into battle and they confront each other now. This actually gets continued upon with any antigone antigone had earlier. I know I know I was looking at after at and just put them all together antigone. After both brothers died crayon finally takes over even though he was probably the rightful heir. Anyway this whole time well. He finally takes over antigone he goes. She goes to Crayon and asked Berry. Paul Nieces because The other brother Berry Polynesia's Dean didn't well Crayon doesn't allow it because he labeled Polynesia's trader. Just kinda messed up. Because Polynesia's really didn't betray anything. He was just he got he got robbed out of his turn so he was. I will. That's all it's going to be will fight for it well. After doesn't allow it. Antigone takes it upon herself to bury her brother and that leads to her arrest. And it's not just your typical arrest. She actually gets incarcerated in a tomb bit excessive but oh well however later. Crayon has a change of heart and he Probably had a lot to do with a song because a son was in love with antigone so he goes sounded releaser but when he does he finds that she had home herself. She killed herself. While news spreads decree on Sun and as I said earlier. He was in love with antigone so he he also commits suicide after learning of the news. Now that's double trouble. Wait it gets better but wait. There's more Queen Eurydice see who was Crianza wife. She actually ends up killing herself as well. Not being able to bear to see your husband allow such acts. So that's just a lot of crap piled on to this dome remember. I said everything bad happens thieves. Even it's even like the first place that Hercules in the movie and Disney goes to because everything bad happens in Thebes. Those so the main premise of this myth with that is it's the age old question. What supersedes way is it. The the Greek gods does their law supersede the law of man. 'cause cryonics going against the very nature of when we talked about that episode where all the citizens are required to bury their family members are doomed fraternity so by telling antigone that she cannot bury even though he is a traitor. That is telling her that she has to allow her brother to be doomed for eternity. Even though the law of the God says not to so she has this deep struggle. The whole time trying to decide. Do I go against the law and accept the repercussions or do I push against it? And that's something that was going on buried deep it was embedded in the Athenian Psyche. You'll see it with the The trial for Socrates and three ninety nine hundred ninety four. I can't remember the exact date and that day. He knows that the the jury was stacked against him. He was even Plato Pushes for him to get a to escape because it was a a sham of a trial. But he says I can't because I've taken an oath. I know that this trial is a sham. I know that it was against me however I have sworn to uphold the laws. I cannot just leave knowing that I have promised so. This was something that was huge. So antigone going and burying him Yes. It's a big deal for them and yes crayon deserves. Everything that he gets in there is but she also broke the law and she deserves punishment. She's not free. She's not the tragic hero. Tragic hero of that entire plate is Crayon. He re he realizes too late what he's done. He pushed everyone into having this issue. So He's like Oh crap this whole family. I'm so tired of dealing with Ed. And his family. This one guy and they kind of do and they did boy. Did they ever but at the same time is that did they get it better because they all killed themselves and now? Crianza left by himself to carry everything on the shoulders. Well it depends because it depends on which part of the afterlife you accept because there is the and the Odyssey of homer where it says that you relive your death every day so if you hang yourself you're gonNa love that torment single day for eternity. So I don't know depends because Ajax is still very angry that Odysseus Got Achilles armor which cracks me up. Ajax checks killed himself not because he got mad and he tried to kill a bunch of goats and stuff. You Got Mad because he failed because he thought he thought the goats were deceased. Who's mad that he failed to kill Odysseus? Ajax all right so just a couple of things I wanted to go into. I'm going to go into the actual aspect of Freud I do so turmoil brew so this is obviously a very important story for Freud. Four decided that this myth is proof that all men at some point or another have issues and suppress those issues with wanting to kill her father. The first person the first feelings that they get is the the feeling of anger against their fathers and then they also the for sexual desire they feel is with their mother and the rest of their lives is trying to repress this and this happens throughout all civilizations throughout all of time so the problem with. Freud's argument is one. Freud is assuming that all civilizations are the same so every civilization he saying is has the same issues where they all have the same values in the same problem. So he's saying that every single one of these civilizations have had issues with like it's taboo to have relations with your mother knows whatever we'll take it for their grain of salt will take a further then he also says that this play is proof but the main problem with that is the play. Oedipus never knows that he's having sex with his mother. He has sexual desires for Kosta because he thinks that. That's not his mother Meropi. If he was to have the actual issue that they were trying to say that it would be Meropi not to Kosta now forty and say that this is the ability. Our this is our subconscious trying to push that down and trying to repress it K- we'll take it a little bit further so he's trying to say then that if we went back to ancient Greece because the the main line that they use it's Giacosa when she's trying to make oedipus feel better about himself. She says something along the lines of you know you're not the first that has ever fell. I will ever fantasize about your mother and you won't be the last. There's no harm in that. So he says we'll see that happens. It happened all the time in ancient Greece. Okay so we'll take it a little bit further. There are. Numerous efforts are references even in Herodotus that shows that yes the Greeks did have sexual relations or sexual dreams about their mothers one person who was a tyrant of Athens trying to invade Athens and the night before he has a dream about having sex with his mom and before our when he wakes up he doesn't think in horror that he tried to have sex with his mom. He realized that it was a a dream. Sent by the Gods. He's like I am going to conquer Athens. So then as he's reading the invasion he gets off his boat and he steps onto the beach a tooth falls out and he steps on the tooth accent. Embarrassing and goes Oh. I guess I'm not going to take over Athens. I was just going to bury my tooth in my homeland and then he went home so it doesn't make a whole lot of sense so that right there just proves to you that even in Herodotus Herodotus time which is around for eighty BC that they did not have this problem so his whole theory and argument is debunked on one thing. The problem with Freud is. He went looking for answers on a theory that he was already trying to prove. He assumes that you will agree with him. He assumes that his argument is true and then it doesn't need further contribution just examples but those examples do not create a situation where you can say yes every culture across the world the exact same and has the same internal battles. It just doesn't make sense. No doesn't I'm glad you brought that man boys look he's gone with at three. Pm Wing Bro. We have he's wishing he could be retired again right. So there's one thing that a lot of people point out in the actual the myth itself you now. Why why does oedipus seem like he is he? He's so so hungry for the knowledge that he can't see pass what what is issues are so the main thing that comes with. The Myth itself is the the aspect of fate so sophocles himself was going through an era where he was battling with sophists. Which were this group of people if you look them up. They had issues where they were trying to to question things the very similar to socrates but they made a lot of. Athenians very nervous they like. Well why should we as humans believe in the gods fate things like fate themselves are already predestined? Were just were just weeds in the wind too their their disposal so this whole play is talking about how it was not the fact that it was the Greek gods fate that caused it was the fact that he didn't trust in the oracles he and his family interest in the oracles and they try to fix it. If oedipus had been raised with Kosta and less he would have never left Corinth because he would have left thieves instead and then avoided it entirely. Who wouldn't have had sex with his mother. He might've ran into. Police are and standing killed him and then married Morobi an Israel mother so the whole play is discussing the that the aspect of way what it is to believe because there's even one point in there where the chorus mentions like if if we don't believe because he lost our bashing at that moment where we talked about where they're bashing the the oracles the chorus who are they typically dancer. Assay danced and they sang so said if there's no one to believe in the gods and why do we dance and what they mean by that is. Why do we do anything if we don't believe in the Gods? What is the point in our living? So Sophocles is hitting you with some knowledge there. Yeah I mean great if if it is or Dane then yeah that that does suck however even homer says at one. Point was Zeus and the Odyssey that humans are always quick to blame the gods for their feet not realizing that they have a higher hand in it than I and Sophocles just wants to make sure you know that Sophocles Israel brew and then what is Sophocles. What is episodes? Biggest flaw is the fact that he doesn't listen when the answers are there. So you fights to nail whatever everything that's told to fight Susan now and then also one of the biggest elements of the Sophocles. Play is the main character is typically so escalates. You'll have it's a large character just going through the motions and having other people there. This is a large character whose an individual by individual I mean. He's on literally this entire play. He's by himself in his thoughts and all these other things like he's searching for the problems but he's not allowing to be a part of it. He Jakarta's begging him to tell her what's wrong he doesn't want to let her in. He finally does but only to a small extent so take it a little bit deeper with that. He's a man struggling within himself. You mentioned it with the blinding himself. It seeing within himself. He's the only protagonists in this play. He has no antagonised. So it's strictly his growth. He's older he's he's in. He's almost in a room of mirrors. So he's the hero in the village. That's actually I have so he? He becomes the polluter of thieves yet by leaving he becomes the healer. He's the problem solver yet. The problem the cursor and the cursed the the intelligent and the all seeing yet the blind. So he's just everything about him is showing you that the Hubris of man remember know thyself. It's put on the Delfi. Oracle of the Delfi know thyself which means do not stray try to stray further than the gods. Do not think you know. More than the gods the fact that he the Oracle with that. That's not where he went wrong the fact that he decided that because the Oracle said something that he didn't like and he's so smart that he solved the riddle of the speaks that is where his demise went. It was his Hubris. And that is the downfall of oedipus don't follow moon downfall man and man to keep things going with the last episode. I've got some awesome jokes for his with improve. Why was oedipus so against profanity do till because he kisses his mother with that mouth? Indeed he does. What did oedipus say whenever he tasted something savory do mommy all right and then there's this is the one that made me last before I started? Okay what do you call it when the king of Thebes takes a leak I don't know an amicus so hard left bs we'll yet and that's my friends is the end of the episode yes it is unfortunately nobler ifan sightings this time maybe next episode. We'll see we'll you try to throw him in? There is a lot the next episode. We're going to be doing is Jason and the argonauts. We're going to follow it with the play of Medina by itself so but to use dove Medina's dope and doesn't had such fun time with this one. I think we might be able to sneak some more plays in there so thanks again and I wanNA give a shout out to you both Brandon. Who made that awesome? Meme on our facebook page. That was also. It's pretty dope. Exactly what I what I had in mind when I made destined man and and also a Delia. Thank you so much for your awesome memes especially the ones attacking my co host. Dustin who is the epitome of art to work with? That's that's not true. It is true but thank you again so much for your participation means so much to us all of you guys. Thank you for everything. You've done your post your requests for your episodes a little bit quicker. We're trying our best for you guys but it really means so much to us to have you guys. They're just does and I'm not hard to work with them. Easy to work with. 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"Talk long. It must be day that ends in. Why that's right i'm back. You can't get rid of me. Thanks for tuning in everybody. Thanks for joining the show. It is free talk. Live the sunday night edition. Our telephone number. Here is six zero three two eight three six one six zero six three two eight three six one six zero if you'd like to join the conversation in the studio tonight. It's myself the reverend captain. Kick ass joining me. Peaked out near and melanie. And we're here to do all sorts of fun things and talk about all sorts of fun stuff as well as take your calls and remember. We're here seven nights a week from seven pm until ten pm eastern time. So if you don't get on the air for some reason or you heard something on previous show that you wanted to talk about feel free. Give us a call. We're here to talk about that stuff. I wanted to talk about well because lee was here last night with me. We talked about some stuff that we want to talk about tonight. And i sort of superseded that. Because i'm in this chair and i can And by that. I just mean that the lead story tonight is something that we didn't talk about. And that is. I've been monitoring a whole bunch of stuff about this. The wall street bats in the whole hedge fund bit and what happened with gm ear the game stock relation. Fun fact about Betting that they had to do a special qualification for The new york gaming commission to exempt the stock market because it was far too much gambling. I mean that's that's not really a a fair complaint. You could say the same thing about insurance or driving to work. We have an idea of like okay. Slot machines are gambling and going to work for a salary isn't but there's not really a if you start picking apart. There's not really a clear defined line like okay. These these activities have no risk. Because that's not true. Any and these activities are just risk. Yeah it's it's a lot more like what did you notice was like gambling. The long the short of it to me is that you know. When bankers and high falutin corporate investors manipulate the stop market stock markets to their advantage. That's fine urge a bunch of equally protected. Yeah we'll call them regular folk. Who are internet savvy. I decided to do it then. Oh my gosh it's gotta be a crime and buying stock which is what the internet did is a lot less manipulation than buying futures. So let me be clear wall street. Did you let me be clear. What happened with what they call a short squeeze what happened with this is completely legal. Completely above board legal stuttered brought. The raiders did is completely one hundred percent legal. What they did what they managed to accomplish was interfering in some of these other. You know bankers in high falutin hedge fund managers and that kind of thing their game. There's a hey new players in town and it's us here. We are to void that problem by not selling things you don't have. Which is what is short. Sale is essentially the way. I understand it. The short squeeze is somebody borrows a stock one stock right just to keep the numbers simple. They borrow it and the idea is that they'll pay it back right. So they buy it and then they hold onto it and they sell it you know when the price goes up and then they return that one stock and then they keep the difference right so if i buy that one stock for ten bucks when it's low they sell it when it's fifteen dollars and then they keep the five bucks and then return the one stock backward. Yeah that's backwards. So they don't actually buy the stock. You're right when you borrow it right so you borrow it at Fifteen dollars a expecting that will go down to ten. Sell it at fifteen dollars and then when it goes down to ten and you buy that stock and give it back. Oh okay all right. So at any rate this has created a whole bunch of commotion obviously in the financial world. I've been paying attention to a specific writer over at bitcoin. dot com. dame's jamie redman. He's a fantastic writer. As far as i'm concerned. And he has penned an article titled goldman and interactive brokers executives claim that the wall street bets trend could take down the entire system. Now during last night's show in between where the brakes. Li you and i had a discussion about the events that occurred to make this happen are indeed a repeatable model. Any group of people can get together and go see. Ooh i wonder what stock is going to be. Shorted or stock as well. If they're buying short today. That might be true. Today they can just make it criminal if they don't ex post facto it which is not uncommon completely right but in order to do that they also have to make it illegal for the hedge funds. And what not to do it. You say right in some caveat that says only if you're like a licensed entity can you engage in this particular form of gambling. Yeah well. I mean we already have qualified investors and stuff like that now just a quick correction on On terms so what we were driving was a short sell Selling short a stock. Now a short squeeze is what can happen when When the price goes up all of a sudden right which is what happened to games right and it was on purpose. They bought this stock specifically to force it to go up in value. So as to make it so these hedge fund people who bought the stock at a lower price would have to pay it back at a higher price. And that's the thing about Any kind of selling short so that normal people don't usually do that it's It's very much an inside thing. Don't ever do that. How would you well. I mean you can actually sell stock short through your broker but Most people don't because the loss is potentially infinite. Yes and the gain is finite whatever the price is that's your maximum gain so this article says the heavy hitters in traditional finance have been concerned about the recent stock market action fueled by renters and a colossal number of retail investors. This week a goldman sachs executive warned that if these short-squeezes continue it could quote snowball through the entire market unquote moreover interactive brokers founder. Thomas petofi made similar comments this week saying these types of systemic risk can quote. Take down the entire system theoretically unquote now and the system is based on things. That shouldn't that shouldn't be conceptually possible. But that shouldn't be possible in practice there. It should not be practical to sell securities that you don't have because then what does that do to the demand for that security. No people know you need it and it's not a tangible item. It's not like somebody has to produce it to give it to you. That should if we had a market do it. This time exponentially increase the price. It should not be. I'm not saying it should be banned then kept saying i don't think but it shouldn't be a thing that you can plausibly do right because it doesn't obey standard market practices which is supply and demand right and the only reason it works is because they can shut down the stock market right whenever they're losing which is what they did last week and they also put a halt on the particular avenues. Folks were using the the robin hood. App robinhood robinhood app itself. Put the kibosh on on actually using it to buy more of these stocks. I would not be surprised if they got a phone call from on high alert. I'm sure they did but nasdaq closed. Which i think the last time there is i think the last time there was an unscheduled stock market stock exchange. Closing was nine eleven. I'd like to refer to nasdaq as nad sack. Because it just sounds better you just flip a couple of letters around. It is pretty gross. The article continues twenty. Twenty one has been an interesting year so far and this week i read it forum called our slash wall. Street bets sparked a whole new hot topic for days ago. News dot bitcoin dot com reported on the stock market fiasco that started with short-squeezing game stop shares but gm shares. Were not the only stocks that felt the push as wall street bets trends started leaking into a number of other types of shares for instance stocks from the russell three thousand index we're targeted including tickers. Like an okay go. Amc and fears the social media craze even leaked into the crypto currency world. Pushing coins like doj coin an x. p. has well estimates assume that the short seller's lost seventy point eight seven billion dollars for short according to statistics six three two three six one six zero. Thanks for tuning in. thanks realistically. everybody it is free. Talk live the live sunday edition. Yes we are the live call in talk radio program where you can take control. The airwaves talk about anything. That's on your mind. You can do that by dialing six zero three two eight three six one six zero that six zero three two eight three six one six l. in the studio tonight it's myself. The captain piglets mountaineer and ninety. Been talking about this article. from bitcoin. dot com wear apparently some high falutin executives over at goldman sachs goldman sachs and interactive brokers Claim that wall street bats. That's the read it group responsible for a short squeezing the What is it game. Stop stocks They claimed these executive claim that that sort of trend could take down the entire system. Now i personally a big fan of stuff like that an article that says take down the entire system. Why yes. let's feature that on free. Talk live tonight. So the article continue The analysis says that. Melvin capital lost a whopping seven billion dollars during two thousand twenty one. Seventy seventy billion. Yeah not seven. Oh seventy it must be a typo hold on. Now this is. This is just melvin capitalist threat. We had talked to off air about how The hedge funds sometimes have hedge funds. That are parts of hedge funds. And so it's like a mecca hedge fund. Yeah the the hedge. Funds are frequently backed by other hedge fund which are backed by other hedge funds. And i believe that. Melvin capital just one of the hedge funds involved. Do we know how much they lost. Let yet have these shorts. come do yet. We don't know the final figure but This article says estimates assume that short sellers have lost seventy point. Eight seven billion billion billion. Seven the point like seventy one billion if you round up other financial news desk has also been reporting on another. Wsb trend taking place last week as short-squeezes want to squeeze the silver market and That's more difficult to do. It is talking about actual silver and not volt silver which probably doesn't exist. We're talking about the paper that says you've bought silver. Yeah the silver. The actual silver market parents a little bit difficult. Apparently as of tonight. It's already in play There was a social media post from Some folks that claim that you cannot buy a silver round at least on paper at this point everybody sold out right now because the squeezes on it started well. Silver had become scarce is not a. There's no such thing as scare split for lack of a better term silver had become scarce awhile ago selling volt silver. Because they don't have to actually have it to sell it to you know that would be illegal and stuff but you'd never know but yeah it was pretty hard to come by for for a while now. Actual silver with is another thing indicates to me that volts over isn't real because of your sold out of the real stuff. But you're like this sewer though like yeah well almost like same kind of fractional reserve that you're selling more than you actually have in the volt weird And the price. Differential is oh. Yeah that's that's one of the great things about this is that might actually bring the the price of silver to the price of silver because as you pointed out i mean there is a difference between what silver is supposedly selling at the so-called spot price right and what you can get actual silver four one threat over on the are slash wall street. Bits suggested that the power of the masses could squeeze the price of silver from twenty five dollars to one thousand dollars. Zero had just been reporting on trends that show editors and social media users have managed to invoke demand for silver well but then at that point they would if they need silver for some reason. They'd probably just go by actual silver. But we're from places that are selling actual over. I mean you can still get it. It's just you're gonna pay a high price. Yeah play thousand. I want you to pay thirty. An ounce pay a thousand. Maybe if well if what they do succeed reading the price of the fictitious asset doesn't affect the price of the actual asset It can actually. So i mean In your theory like you you buy an actual piece of silver for thirty bucks and the price on the page is for a thousand bucks. I mean you can get the papers to sell that. Like you can get it documented and then sell it and if you're selling it in two thousand dollars like that's quite appropriate for if i bought my silver round at say twenty five dollars last week and you know tomorrow. The price of silver on paper is a thousand dollars and somebody comes to me and says hey captain i know you got around to silver. You wanna sell to mango. How nine hundred bucks. I don't think that would work because People i think people who are dealing and actual silver know that volts. Silver isn't real and i'm like okay. Well it costs thousand dollars. And you're like but they have unicorn cars for a million. I'm like well. It doesn't matter because they're not real and i can't drive it and that's that's the difference there though is that you can't turn into can't turn a real car indeed whereas you can actually You can actually turn your real silver. You can get it documented. You can turn it into paper silver. Yes can sell volt silver you can. I'm sure you can transfer your silver into The vault silver. Yeah in the twenty four hours preceding. I'm sure you'd have to pay for the paperwork to get done in the twenty four hours preceding the friday market close. Sd billions sold nearly ten times. The number of silver ounces that we normally would sell in an entire weekend leading to sunday market open the finance reporter disclosed in normal market. We can normally find at least one supplier or source willing to sell some ounces over the weekend if we exceeded our long position. Additionally polygon dot com contributor good reported this week on how the meam driven stock rally rescued. Amc theaters from six hundred million dollars in debt. Meam lords saved this business not the us federal government not the bankers. Those groups were actively shorting. Amc down the toilet. The theater chain gets an unexpected lifeline when private equity trades a corporate. Iou for stop. The authors report explains it was the one attacking. Amc in the first place. I i don't know that they were doing great before. I'm sure they had someone from digital stuff but there still value in theater at least as some people will the making it illegal or but half capacity was what hurt it exactly. That's the it's the government itself that hurt the theaters by these ridiculous clampdowns. On you know social distancing and all that kind of stuff or no you can't open without our permission and oh no you can only open at like you say half capacity or quarter capacity. I think this is people defending their actual culture as it's under assault from the government. Well i love the fact that its members doing this. Not the government right. Yeah i mean if you wanna see a real bailout this is what it looks like zits. Six zero three two eight three six one. six zero. who says maiming doesn't accomplish anything more. Free talk live coming up. Bitcoin dot com is the best source for learning about crypto currency. Go there now. Click on get started at the top of the page. Once you do that. You'll find a cornucopia of information neatly organized for your needs if you're a knowledgeable crypto user checkout news dot bitcoin dot com where you can get the latest headlines. Bitcoin dot com is your source for buying ripple currency getting a wallet app mining trading. And all the latest crypto currency. News all in slick and easy to use website all put together by the best minds in the business to teach you about cryptocurrency. Bitcoin dot com. 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You mean like a real market with any merge instead of this fake market that we have and i think the the best thing about this like this has set a precedent so from now on every hedge fund every one of these traders is going to have to actually consider. Hey is this going to upset normal people right because if we do something. That upsets them. They could clamp down on us right. They actually have to respond to the the actual market. I tell people all the time and they're like oh. I don't understand finance like the market and all that and i'm like you actually do. It's really easy. It's supply and demand. The market is just interactions between human beings. Probably don't understand the regulations in any depth correct. That's entirely different thing right getting them to understand that his where by by putting it in such simple terms They they begin to sort of separate that from like what the actual market should be and they can look at it and those and it's it's it's a great ploy to get people to think that they don't understand these things so that they don't comply them. I'm not smart enough to understand. What a short squeeze. Yes you are just read up about it. Pay attention to the articles. Keep reading even if you don't understand. Keep breeding eventually. It's going to kick in your brain will think your brain will start out everything and be like. Oh right because that's how they did that and now they're doing it all right. I get it now. The the intimidating complications that are completely. Unnecessary is a really effective way of controlling people in a lot of different ways whether it's Law finance religion. The most heavily shorted stocks have risen by ninety eight percent in the past three months. Outstripping major short-squeezes in two thousand and two thousand nine percent. That's all that's high Costa studied details. This week demonstrated that unsustainable excess in one small part of the market has the potential to tip a row of dominoes in create broader turmoil. The golden analyst added according to durden from zero hedge goldman's hedge fund. Vip list declined by four percent this week during the wsb in recent years elevated crowding low turnover and high concentration have been consistent patterns boosting the risk that one funds unwind could snowball through the entire market goldens. David constant concluded and dirt interpreted costumes final conclusion. In a different way the author writes translation if wsb can use to push the most shorted stocks higher the entire market could crash serves them right. I mean that's the thing Business as usual is being way out on a limb on all of this stuff all of the time just to keep up with everyone else. Well and since The government decided to screw with everybody over the covid. Bit telling people you know what businesses couldn't and couldn't be open and who's essential and who's not who can can't go to work all except for everybody employed by government of course not one of them. Bastards lost a dime during any of this. We've seen unemployment rise to almost historical highs right and yet somehow the stock market is doing. Great tells you something. Something's rotten over at the circle. K strange things are afoot so this seems to me to be a natural market correction it is. It's just that we're not used to seeing those well and or some of these well. The federal research does their damnedest to keep them from happening. Of course which is why. They're bigger when they do happen. Well and that's why the the very idea of too big to fail. I mean that's the opposite of how would work in a in an actual market in a real market. You get too big to function and then you have to break down into smaller pieces. Yep yeah too. Big to fail is A bunch of jumbled up words that they made up to say we're giving these guys to your money Goldman sachs executives are not the only financial heavyweights weighing in on the stock market craziness in the in possible aftermath the founder and chairman of interactive brokers group. Inc thomas petofi or peter. It's p. e. t. e. r. f. f. y. I don't know how you pronounce it. I'm going petty discussed his thoughts about the stock market and add this. In an interview with marketwatch financial author mark dicamba on thursday said that explained that the short squeeze action could go on for a very long time unless it was stopped he also wrote. That fee was worried about the systemic risk and quote the potential for this trend to ripple throughout the market. I hope it does. And i hope it does because you know i was around in two thousand eight when the market crashed. And that's where the phrase too big to fail came about Like oh these companies are to be. We can't let them fail. And so they give them a bunch of money and during that entire will call it fiasco. There was a whole bunch of illegal things that happened even by the government's own standard right. Nobody got arrested. Nobody went to jail not one. Nobody no person individual right They squeezed what Who's the one guy you know. And he was doing some dirty deals with. Here's a guy we don't like is that enough. Right scapegoat oh oh you mean the ceo. Now know that so you and you're right. Peak mountaineer when a business becomes so big that it could no longer manage itself. Either dies or you're right. It breaks up or gets bought by another company right right absorbed in some way right bought and turned into something else or whatever those businesses those specifically that were bailed out in two thousand eight should have been allowed to die. Yes because that's what happens if you over extend yourself if you borrow too much if you somehow you know lend money that you don't have and can't pay back and you know then your business should die. You're a bad businessperson. And everyone's concerned about okay. Well who's going to do these jobs that we need done in order to keep everything running. It's like well if you had let other competitors entered the market instead of making it completely impossible to become a bank then we would already have their replacements ready to go but instead you made all of these regulations that make it just shy of completely impossible to be a bank. Well and i mean we don't need replacement banks we can just let all the banks go away and you know because well. We know that eventually banking will be replaced with software absolutely. I mean a lot of the reasons that you need this stuff to go on in the first place are already being replaced by cryptocurrency equivalents. That don't overcharge everything and have so much red tape and all of that. Furthermore on january twenty ninth the cryptocurrency trading platform beatrix global revealed that it was listing token is stocks for a number of the shares. The wsb trend has been affecting exchange detailed that it made this decision because beatrix wanted to ensure that retail investors that the little guy have exposure to stocks. They may wish to trade any time during any day of the week like they should have toyota six zero three two three six one six zero. Is it time for the banking system to collapse or freetalklive. Come up welcome back to the live. Call in talk radio program where you can take control of the airwaves. Talk about anything you'd like. It is free talk. Live the live sunday night edition our telephone number. If you'd like to join the conversation at six zero three two eight three six one six zero again six. Oh three two eight three six one six. Oh in the studio to myself. The captain piglets mountaineer. Ninety we were talking a bit before the show about people who don't understand finance and why they don't talk a bit during the show as well about that. Could it be that more. People don't understand basic things like finance and the economy and how money works in fractional reserve banking because americans are suffering from mass delusional psychosis. It's a bit of a jump. And it's the best segway. I got pal. We're segue into a different article is what i'm trying to say this from. Where is it from. Even ev magazine dot com. I don't even know how i stumbled upon this. But i did. It's been in show prep for lyle. Peak less you noticed it and like can we do that can we. You know best an article ever so here. We are evening magazine. Dot com psychiatrist. Americans are suffering from delusional psychosis because of covid nineteen. Now that might make you think of thing. It's not because of covid. Nineteen whenever somebody says because of covid nineteen generally speaking. What they mean is because the government did some things and is now forcing you to do things you don't wanna do didn't want to do in the first place. Yeah conflicting a virus with the response that we've done to. The virus is almost ubiquitous. United states congress is not a literal virus although they are parasites the entire government is a parasitical organism and they certainly caused disease. They do not to mention a whole lot of death. The article starts something. Sinister is brewing around the current atmosphere of mass panic. And the fear stemming from the covid nineteen hysteria people seem to be losing their minds when it comes to dealing with the pandemic perhaps. That's basically what's happening dr mark. Donald is board certified in both child and adolescent psychiatry with extensive additional training in adult. Psycho analysts psychoanalysis. He specializes in the evaluation and treatment of young people with mental illness and his practice also serves adults couples and families. His opinions have been ugly. Published in local and national news including the wall street journal and the federalist the true public health crisis is psychological in nature among some of these opinions. Dr mark mcdonnell believes that the crisis is not medical in nature. The country has always had enough resources to deal with the pandemic for example. The navy hospital ships into new york city to help deal with a surgeon. Hospitalization was turned back. Due to a lack of patience the same thing happened on the west coast so the question becomes what is the actual public health crisis. That people are really suffering from now before we go on Not only was that medical ship turned away from new york and the same thing happened on the west coast. But here in keene new hampshire. They sent a team of folks. I don't know if they were fema our team of folks to literally take over the university here into and turn that into a makeshift hospital because they were anticipating a far higher number bed count than actually happen and so they did so they said it and then nothing happened in. They had to take down. Leave like a carnival right up. Nobody's coming to the car. Well i guess we better try some bells right so imagine if that happened here in. What's keeping twenty five thousand thirty thousand people right. Where else did it happen right across the globe. Everybody like oh panic. Let's set up all these. Oh oh you're not overwhelmed. Oh there's not dead bodies in the streets. Oh my gosh you mean. We're not just stepping over dead bodies. Cova patients astonishing. Dr mcdonald believes the true public. Health crisis lies in the widespread fear which morphed involved into a form of mass delusional psychosis in simpler words. The public is suffering from mass insanity due to their delusional fear of covid nineteen even when the statistics point to the extremely low fatality rate among children and young adults the young and the healthy are still terrorized by the cold of irrational fear when faced with the corona virus. Young here is defined by under fifty or under fifty five or something like that. It's not like just nineteen year olds right right. A colorado family was recently kicked off an airplane because there are two year old daughter would not leave her mask on. Her parents weren't even against masking. The toddler just didn't want to have a piece of cloth smothering her face. Well i mean nor do most people right. I don't it isn't even enough that her parents were forcing her with the mask on as they covered her face against her will they were still made to exit the flight. So these parents wearing their masks have a two year old. Who didn't want to wear the mask and they went ahead. Enforce this two year old to wear the mask and they still kicked him off the flight. Yeah it's a heartbreaking video. I mean you you see the parent like you know sue. They're like pedder head while he's holding this mask over her face where she doesn't want and even when he's doing that that's when the attendant comes up and says you're going to have to leave the plane. Now i mean i have flown pre covid. Where you know. There was some sort of a fussy baby on the flight and it annoyed everybody during the whole friggin flight and not once did they pull a plane over. Make somebody get off before. The plane took off because they had a fussy baby. I can't see taking my kids on a plane either. Like i can make that decision to go through. Just a ridiculous whatever you won't be because i can't leave my kids at home while i fly around the country. Either but you get the point. I can't see taking my kid on a plane even before the lockdown before the like how were you able to i. I don't wanna know but how are you able to do that. Just in general. I saw a. I guess i'll call it a read option pass so there was a couple and they had to sit like you know the one person was in the row in front of in person was in the row and back and they would like hold the baby up like a signal. Hey will you grab the baby. So i can like get into my bag like get a thing or not just because it's annoying. Although i imagine it would be annoying to everyone to have a toddler on a plane. But okay so. I'm not about to put a mask on my kid and you have to go through. Tsa to get on a plane. So i'm not about to do that either if i decided. There's a really good reason for me to get on a plane. I can make that decision. I don't even feel entitled to make that decision. On behalf of someone else knew they. Okay you're going to get growth by. Tsa today deal with it like no or putting a microwave. Yeah the worst part of this unfortunate situation is the fact that no one else on the plane dared to stand up and back up the toddler parents against the insanity of forcing child to cover her face against her will. Well you know not. A lot of people are standing up for adults. Either this point but yes it is. It is particularly upsetting time and time again. We hear studies about how children are not a vector for infection. Y- everyone on. The plane was deluded into thinking that a two year old. Who refuses to put on a mask will kill everyone. Okay well objection evidence not in facts not in evidence we have. Why would that's a jump. They have just thought i best with the flight attendants. I'm going to have problems. They could just thought. I don't want to mess with what they called. The air marshal people like that doesn't follow from what happens. Objection noted in the midst of mandatory. Masking have you also noticed a glaring problem about people who get hysterical and those who refuse to wear masks. Why well yes i have. That's a matter of fact. The scientific fact is that if someone doesn't want to assume the risk of infection that person should be wearing a mask and they note the ninety five or ninety five well and as far as the evidence suggests it certainly shows that what they saw happening. They didn't consider worthy of stopping which means that they didn't think it was that unjust. No that's not true either. There's plenty of really. I been to boston. I haven't pulled over and opened fire on the federal reserve building. Because it's not gonna accomplish anything that's not a judgment of how unjust it is now but you do say you do say something about the federal reserve and no one no one says anything about it right walked in and told them off like you don't mind you haven't driven by flipped off like as you pass by the while it was okay. I think that you have Done everything in your ability to express your feelings regarding the federal reserve. It doesn't mean that. If i mean i say i say things about what i wouldn't do if i ever met this individual but that does not mean that if i was on a plane run by the federal reserve that i would try to stop what they were doing to my own detriment into no one's benefits. If if i happen to be in this situation i would. At least tern say seriously six zero three two eight three six one six zero. Are you suffering from mass delusion. As a result of the government's reaction to cove it more free talk live on the way. 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You are in the right place for the sunday night edition in the studio tonight. it's myself. The captain piglets mountaineer and ninety. We've been talking about this article from ev magazine claiming that folks might be suffering from mass psychosis. Mass delusional psychosis because of well. This is because of covid. Nineteen what they really mean is because of well all the overreaction by governments and forcing people to do things they don't want it well and a lot of it comes down the fearmongering. Oh of course it does well and and belief right people get their information from the glowing box right. That's the television for those of you. Who aren't familiar with my woody. Retorts they get their information from the glowing box and they go. Oh i've seen it on. Tv it must be true. Must be and these. Same people will say things like well. You can't believe everything you read on the internet. Yeah you can't believe everything you see on television either pal. Where'd you get that information from the internet but before we go on talking about that. Let's go to. We have scott in florida calling scott. You're on free talk. Live good a good evening everyone. I hope you're alright I america's that all right and You know. I wanted just to follow up the other night when i called you about how. I was so pleased that read it Day traders short of game stop and. Amc what i people did. Not short game. Stop wall street game. Stop the hedge. Fund shorter game stop. People bought game. Stop right. yeah they what is called a long They they owned. They actually had the thing. It's not a short happy. That wall street got beaten at its own game. Detained managers deserve to They deserve to be swindled. Just like paper. Swindling the american people for generations. But what it out to the conversation. The other night It hits home to me because remember when lehman brothers went bankrupt. Do those do you remember that. I remember two thousand eight very well. Yeah september fifteenth twenty away. It hit home for me because that was the day. I got a call from my broker. Morgan stanley and he said scott. Turn on the tv. And i said why even brought this If they're going bankrupt so says what are you saying he said you know the hundred ninety thousand dollars and you are not in common stock. I said yeah. He said it's gone from. What did he advise you against doing that. Did he tell you. It was a to put a hundred and ninety thousand dollars in one stock and not only. This was before i had helped. It was my father. My father we had it for years and Whatever that lehman brothers would go out of business. It's like if bank of america was going to go out of business or citibank was gonna but you still. I mean he should have advised you against having everything in one stock putting all you lose everything lose one hundred ninety grand from lehman brothers and how long hang on scott. How long did you have the money in there before you lost. Approximately was it five years ten years. Oh they at least at least a decade okay. So it was a long time that you had you were probably part of your retirement plan in your overall financial strategy right. Yes okay yes. Go ahead and Anyway to make a long search everyone knows lehman brothers went bankrupt. But you know it gives have to and it was deliberate by the greed and incompetence of one disgrace. Ceo by the name of richard fold. Does that name ring a bell to you. Which i believe i heard it during the two thousand eight fianc skill. But i could be mistaken. He lives in a mansion in greenwich connecticut. The point i'm making is key. Never went to jail He needs to go to prison. Like bernie madoff He's a multimillionaire. He never he never had had to go into jail. He never was given signs and he never went bankrupt in a regular system and a free market system. If you're driving all these companies into the ground you don't get to go home to your mansion you don't get to keep your bonuses right. Well he. I was reading an article a few years ago. as far as optics are he's he's living very well goodson abacha he is. I'm just saying if this was a system. That wasn't rigs you. You can run a company into the ground but then you lose everything right. You can't bankrupt five companies and then go home to your mansion in your maids and your lamborghinis right so like four. The government got involved in the financial markets and banking in particular. There was something called responsibility that everybody had to have right so if it was you know scott and sons bank. You open a bank. You had to be very responsible with everybody's money you had to only lend out you know a fraction of what you had on hand because that was all the risks that you could afford to take with other people's money because guess what if you lent out too much and you'd lost on your bet. The people whose money you lost they would come for you right. So the government of course has put in protections right in the form of corporatism and a sorted other banking rules. And and since you mentioned corporatism like that fundamentally is the difference here so the individual human being actually making. This decision doesn't suffer for the the the liability goes to the corporation whereas all of the potential profit goes to the individual and that's the nature of the the scam that is a corporation and scott. That's why you're This guy. Mr fogo is still living quite well in his mansion. Mr falls and He he's he's not the only one. I mean the other night your listeners. Don't remember jamie diamond. It's another philip. J people are suppressed the price of precious metals Let's not who can forget bernie madoff five billion not million billion. He writes out. Does fouts awesome suicide twenty when they are these one hundred fifty years. Yeah isn't these people need to jail. Time all of them. You know what you thought if you rob a bank and you pass a keller note and you say ten dollars are gonna go to jail. Even if you don't even use a firearm you'll go to jail really easy around there pretty much elected if you if you go in and say this is a robbery. You mean money that you know. I i can't i can't be that opposed to robbing banks but your point is taken. But there's no there's no recourse for these scoundrels and they are scum and they are even. I don't want you to be annoyed or daughter will be. I agree with you. They're not all but richest folk was typically jewish and jamie diamond is that unfortunately when they when they cry about antisemitism maybe what they really should cry about is why are they committing way tracks from the issue though so. The issue is banking and ponzi schemes and scams and regulations. And whatever happened to these people for that. It's too good for him and something were should happen. But i don't care about what ethnicity is doing it. Whoever's doing it should face really hard consequences and not be allowed back in any society ever. I mean number one. You really shouldn't be looking at. You shouldn't be looking at group membership. You should be looking at individuals performing actions number two if you insist on looking at a group membership look at the group. That is these. Ceo's these managers not some kind of Of racial or religious identity. You joanne you joined chase bank. Didn't join whatever bloodline will and let's not forget the between these bankers and the government these people jump back and forth between government banking the bank and government different entities. Okay but i'm saying before a close to settle with the federal reserve when just a fast remark subtler so reserve service not federal reserve. It stopped part of the united states. Government is a private institution and it is an evil evil evil back at it needs to be shut out or we need to go back to southbound for gold sober but i unfortunately that's talk to be the case it's the most evil institution ever has or will be. I hope we'll be ever has there is existed and it's worth mentioning that a sound form of money exists in crypto-currency matt taibbi wrote a great article that details all the people who should be in jail as a result of the two thousand eight financial fiasco. Go google data. He wrote for rolling stone magazine. It's a great article that details everything. 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I rewrote some carols in the key of covid and i recorded one of them. It's the little lockdown over at lourdes kick ass dot com. So if anybody's out there listening and you didn't know that i do parody. Music go visit lord kick ass dot com. Please and thank you so anyway. We were talking about this article from ev magazine. That says that a psychiatrist actually says americans are suffering from mass delusional psychosis because of covid nineteen. Now you might be like. What's how's that possible well. It is in the midst of mandatory masking. Have you also noticed the glaring problem about people who get hysterical at those who refuse to wear a mask i do. The scientific fact. Is that if someone doesn't want to assume the risk of infection. That person should be wearing a mask at all times when they venture outside specifically in n ninety five or k n ninety five mask correct or something even better than that i mean. I've seen the actual masks that folks in cleanroom environments have to wear for folks in other medical environments have to wear. It's something out of like nasa pipe. Sticking out the sides and like it's completely vacuums do miller systems that will protect you from the elements. Whatever those elements happen to be. And if you're only going out when you have to because you thought this was actually the plague you'd only be going to the grocery store and whatever government agencies are requiring your presence so you wouldn't be going out that much so you wouldn't be buying filters like every day or anything like that yet in almost every encounter we've observed who tend to chastise others for not wearing a mask they themselves have worn and ineffective paper or cloth mask. Why would these people act rationally. The answer it's probably delusional psychosis as mentioned by dr mcdonald. If someone were serious about minimizing all risk of contracting the corona virus the correct way of achieving that would be to properly wearing and ninety five masks as well as frequently wash. Disinfect their hands. But those who are just putting on a cloth or paper mask as they also constantly touch their face while they adjust their mask are they are in reality doing practically nothing to minimize the risk of infection. There's some neat graphics here. It shows the difference between your cloth. Mask your paper mask. And and ninety five mask known. They are pretty stark to You know we've been talking about memes a little bit here. There's a great name that says. Why can you wear anything for a mask. Because it's about obedience. It's not about your health when richie rich went to the apple store with a much better mask and they said you need to wear this one because it's not about being effective. It's about optics. Wow i didn't know that. oh yeah. That's amazing yeah. Don't wear the far superior mask where this crappy one it because all the old folks doing it used be silly blue one. yes yes. They handed him the the silly little disposable mask said this asset geniuses my ass. Well that's exactly what it's about optics you need to be seen complying yet more often than not so we witnessed people who are more concerned with masking. I'm sorry making sure there's assume the responsibility for every one else. If you don't wear a mask you effectively killing grandma scream the pro mask nazis instead of sourcing and donating in ninety five masks to the elderly to ensure that grandma will be able to properly minimize the risk of getting infected. They'd rather yellen threaten others. Who dare question the effectiveness of even wearing a mask. All instead of facing reality the delusional person would rather live in their world of make believe but in order to keep faking reality. They'll have to make sure that everyone else around them. Also pretends to live in their imaginary world in simpler words. The delusional person rejects reality and this rejection of reality others have to play along with how they view the world otherwise their world will not make sense to them. It's why the delusional person will get angry when they face someone who doesn't conform to their world view. And you do see that behavior in a lot of different world worldviews. Well i see it in religion And not all religions. But i expect that it probably has occurred and all religion at one point or another. Somebody says no. My way is the correct way to believe. You don't believe that way why you're going to hell or whatever it is right and i mean why would someone get angry for you disagreeing with them. Well one very specific reason is because you are calling into question their worldview and that is something that people find incredibly uncomfortable because frankly they're not totally certain about their worldview being correct and you're putting a demand on their ability to process and be comfortable then right at the end of the day because if that wasn't the case it'd be like will allow somebody not wearing a mask doesn't really prove you wrong here. Well hey here's a new allegation or new evidence. Let me look at this. Because maybe i'm wrong about something and if i find out i'm wrong about something i can quit being wrong. Thank you for telling me. I was wrong so i can stop stop it. We experienced something like this in the freedom communities With folks who not be exposed to our philosophies and we start talking about things like maybe there shouldn't really government and they go who will build the roads ripe. We've made them uncomfortable with their belief system. They believe that for whatever reason they believe that without government roads would not exist a more of a fan of just sitting down with him and explaining the various ways. You could get roads without a state right and that's great when people are actually trying to find new information. But i'm sure. Hey that's new information. It makes them a little bit curious but when they when they respond not with curiosity not even with dismissal. But with anger right. And i've had this happen when trying to explain how roads might be possible. The person gets angry. Visibly like spitting angry. No longer engaging. Then you're wasting your time. You can't convert somebody who doesn't want to be converted and you can't help somebody who doesn't want to be helped but i'm just saying that mass delusion exists far more frequently in this role than the average person is willing to accept a state status as the world's largest religion and it's truly humiliating when you realize that you have been participating in mass delusion so that's part of why people respond as if you are attacking their very essence if you disagree with them indeed Six zero three two eight three six one six zero. Have you experienced somebody suffering from mass psychological delusion regarding the covid where free talk live is on the way six zero three two eight three six one six zero having taken her father's throne. Sarah calhoun has fallen out with one of our best allies. And her brother nathaniel heads into imperial philadelphia with a reckless plan. An article thomas armed with new powers. 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It's myself the reverend captain kick ass because mountaineer and melanie. We've been discussing this article from ev magazine claiming that americans are suffering from. Ask delusional psychosis and this. This one says it's just because of covid nineteen and of course we know that when they say covid. Nineteen what you mean. The government's overreach and all of their mandates surrounding covid nineteen not the actual disease itself including in case. There are people out there that think they're different. The mass media's approach to it. Oh yes indeed. Continuing on because objective reality threatens to unravel their carefully crafted imaginary world the delusional person as out at others who dare act in contradiction to their delusions wearing a mask becomes more about social solidarity than it is about following the science thao. She actually suggested that a little while ago. Didn't he also suggest wearing more than one mask. I haven't looked at up to see with. That was accurate yet. But i know he said the thing about well first of all. He lied but he said while it's more for you know a signal. It's more for signaling. Basically wow i yes virtuous signaling is. What is i read somewhere. That faucher is the highest. Paid government employees That makes it sound. Like he makes millions of dollars. It was like two fifty or three seventy five. But that's his right. We know that when people get into government positions that use their positions to benefit financially in other ways i e chumming up with people to you know. Make sure that their business gets favored over some other business later on down the line. You know they'll give a a donation of their campaign or otherwise you know benefit them financially in some way shape or form yeah the most straightforward way was Said to me is why would summon spend millions of dollars to get a job that pays one hundred thousand right. There is a reason. There's there's many of them at any rate wearing a mask becomes more about social solidarity than it is about following science. Instead of rethinking their worldview they have to compel others to fit into the reality of their own making take a look at the example of how this physician in ontario has account suspended for daring. To point out the truth. This is gil name knee. Md looks like a twitter. I can't help but shake my head tonight. I just finished my shift at the covid. Nineteen assessment center at my hospital. I decided to walk through my er on my way to the change room. Empty in all caps. Says i shake my head at my colleagues who go on twitter and tv ranting about how our er is crazy. That wasn't even make sense because you don't stay in the er something that if you weren't sick to that degree you wouldn't stay in the er in south er's for the for stabilization true. But you do see the same thing with people are talking about. Oh no they're all full up and now there's no one in the intensive care unit. That's not anymore full than they have been historically during flu season. It's the same kind of delusion that drives religious. Oh i pointed the sounders guard nice. It's the same kind of delusion that drives religious fanatics who would kill their daughters because she dared to dishonor family in those societies not only are the honor killings acceptable but the killers are normally protected by their own family members in our society today fueled by the covert induced delusion. It's acceptable to kick a toddler off plan for not wearing a mask. When there's evidence that toddlers rarely spread the virus it's acceptable for tech companies to suspend a physician social media account because he dared contradict the message. That's being fed to the public about covid. Nineteen those who are authoritarian in nature. Don't care about seeking out the truth. Rather they prefer to seek out authority. It's one of the reasons why you are seeing so many people who'd happily approve the silencing of any medical experts who views whose views contradict the. Who or the cdc guidelines obey the rules becomes the more important item rather than questioning if the rules were legitimate to begin with. And we've seen that. The gray banked declaration signed by tens twenty thirty forty thousand medical professionals and hundreds of thousands of other people And it's barely gotten a we've ventured here repeatedly on free talk live But of course the science settled and nobody will have any of it. But there've been brave. Souls dared to divide authority when they knew that the truth was on their side. A classic example is galileo galilee. That's an interesting name. Galileo galilei galileo galilei. Yes who dared question. The ruling powers claim that the sun revolves around. The earth does seem rather tragic that just like galileo who was sentenced to life under house arrest for daring the question the ruling authorities narrative during the renaissance. Those of us today who are also questioning the mainstream authority science on kobe. Nineteen pandemic will end up like galileo as we too are placed under complete house arrest. If this sounds like an exaggeration keep in mind how there have already been talks about banning access to facilities for those who refuse to receive the vaccine ticket. Bastard i'm sorry. Ticketmaster for example is requiring a person's proof of vaccination before they could attend public events. Even andrew yang the former democratic presidential candidate is asking if it's possible to deploy proof of vaccination barcodes so that we can track those who refuse to be vaccinated. And you definitely see ramping up for that. Even here in new hampshire. Where they they had in place a vaccine registry but it was optional You could opt out of it. You had to opt in to it. And if you had religious objections they wouldn't impose it and then his so-called excellency decided that He is the entire legislative branches. Well and Repealed those that those parts of that law so that it's now mandatory for every vaccination that is done in the state to be recorded in the same place and that is obviously a first step to refusing services to those that don't have whatever vaccines they decide are necessary. Perhaps the most important point mentioned by dr mcdonald is lasting negative effect. This mass paranoia will have on future generations. Dr macdonald has witnessed the highest increase of psychiatric issues among his young patients. Ever since the lockdowns in their closure started they've suffered more than i've ever seen in my nine years of private practice. He said in a panel discussing the reopening of of schools. He gave an example of a local homeowners association deciding to close their private park because they noticed that children are playing on the grass. Without wearing a mask. I think we cover that surround. Free talk live. This was dangerous because well children were rolling around on the grass. they're also touching it and therefore could potentially spread or pick up. The virus from the grass is way worse things that are normally in the ground then a cold they could potentially spread pick up the virus from the grass and kill their grandparents. Go home with the virus. Like just sign a. I won't go around old people waiver. Actually the problem. And i'm gonna kill this guy is grandparent's badges like promise not to go around them and a quick mentioned on the playing in the grass thing to like. Okay yes it does Potentially contain some pathogens however it also contains the bacteria that are necessary for your microbiome children's specifically do not get that stuff in their mouths and in their digestive tracts they won't be able to digest their food it will cause them all sorts of of medical problems throughout their life including allergies. If you take children and put them in a bubble where nothing ever bad gets into right. They're not gonna build your immune system and they're going to be malfunctioning adults. Every time they're out of that bubble and not just not just won't build their immune system but human beings cannot on our own digest. Our food we rely on bacteria to do the lion's share of the work. And if we don't get that helpful bacteria into our system then it's going to kill us to your point about the elderly kovic had a nickname early on. Do you remember what it was. Yeah what does it say that the boomer boomer boomer boomer all the baby boomers are getting old down six zero three two eight three six one. Six zero is our phone number. If you'd like to comment on the mass psychosis surrounding covid nineteen more free. Talk live on the way. Welcome back everybody. Thank you for tuning in to free talk live. we're here. Seven nights a seven pm to ten pm eastern time. Our telephone number is six zero three two eight three six one six zero again six. Oh three two eight three six one six zero in the studio. It's myself peak mountaineer. And melanie tonight. And we've been talking about this article from ev magazine. That claims that folks are suffering from mass delusional psychosis of well. This says covid nineteen but we all know that. It's a result of the government. Mandates lockdowns and media hysteria and media hysteria. And just people get uncomfortable when their beliefs are challenged and some of these people have their beliefs so deeply rooted in their favorite media. Program fox or cnn or you know You name it whatever television program. They're launching that they can't get over it can't get by it and so of course this makes them angry when confronted with new information that might challenge their belief well and there is a natural anxiety that people feel when you point out that where they are what they are trusting is not worthy of the trust they give it because that puts the the impetus on them to okay. Well if i stop trusting this that means that. I have to put forth the effort to do something. I don't know how to do which is find a worthwhile source of information. Right now We run into this in the freedom community. Anyway when we talk to folks about you know our belief that governments should not exist because it violates consent interesting in its existence and people will of course get angry at us suggesting such a thing And i equate that to people's reaction the getting mad part. I equate that to not equate I i think it's happens in part because people lie to children all the time specifically. I'm thinking about santa claus in this particular instance. Right people lied children about santa claus right and these are their parents right. The people that they're supposed to trust most people who feed them clothe them and take care of them right because kids aren't able to take care of themselves and then these people for whatever reason decide. Hey you know there's a jolly fatman you know who's gonna come down a chimney and leave you some presence once a year right. It's a lie If you're a kid and you're listening. Santa claus is not real. And that's got to be absolutely heartbreaking. Not only to realize that. There is no santa claus but to realize that you've been lied to about the physical existence of this person by the most authoritative people in your life. The ones that are ordinarily the ones you can be most certain actually have your best interests at heart right so basically. They've ripped away your reality right. You've believed them all up until this point in your life until you discover or otherwise told that santa claus does not exist in. It's the same reaction right. you rip out. Somebody's it takes a kid a while to recover from that if they you know if they're not told in the right way or if they they get angry at their parents you said santa claus was real. They get angry in the same way that people do when you start talking about how government exists in violation of consent right. They get angry at you because they believe government is necessary. And it's real. What do you have evidence. And the same thing applies here to people who question the narrative about covid. Nineteen in the government overreaction. People believe what television has told them. And when you dare to question that at present them with do information they also get angry in the same way. The children getting angry when they find out. Santa claus couldn't put it on tv so speaking of children. This generation of children is basically not only being traumatized but also being taught to accept the feeling of unjustified guilt about themselves just for being children. Imagine a kid who's told because everyone's freaking out that they're playing the grass. They're being told that they can't play outside because it might kill grandpa if they did right and these comments are not an exaggeration as the comments on youtube showed countless adults calling the toddler who refused to put on a mask a brat for acting like a normal toddler. Normal person really at that point. Yeah it's not normal for children to grow up thinking that everyone is danger to everyone else. We can think the adults who are perpetuating this trauma due to their mass delusions in closing as dr mcdonald's stated in one of his talks he is concerned about the ultimate end of societies delusional psychosis. It's not unthinkable that the final outcome would be total societal control on every aspect of your life. Consider this the end point of a mentally ill. Person is for them to be put under a controlled environment. That's an institution like an asylum for example where all of their freedoms are restricted. And it's looking more and more like that's the end point of where this mass psychosis is heading. So i can't disagree with this Second interest after mcdonald's spot on and what's terrible right now. Is that the people at the moment who are most in in risk of being put in some kind of Of institution of asylum are actually the ones that are going bull wait. Let's look at the evidence right. And that's we hear a free talk live have continue to espouse. Hey look at the evidence when the evidence say can you point to the facts. Can you point to you. Know real tangible items that show that this is indeed the case and over and over again the yes covert is a disease. People are gonna get it. I think we're all probably going to get it eventually. I probably had it but it certainly not the boomer boomer that they let everybody to believe it was when it first came out with their faulty models about contagion and all that kind of thing. There is one more bit here at the end of this article. It looks like tweet from. I don't know who this person is. Candace owens but the tweet says it's pretty incredible to consider that right now. Governments are like in order to keep you safe we need to impoverish. You imprison you force mask and vaccinate you plus separate you from your family and there are millions of people out there. That are just like okay. That's the part that gets like. They should not have been able to do this no if even if they did the replace your income thing that some other countries like that would be really bad but at least it would make sense but the government just walked up to people one day a year ago was like hey how about you. Just be unemployed indefinitely. And they're like i and that was it and you look at like each. Each level of this is a tip of the iceberg on something enormous One of the things that were having a big societal argument about is Is free speech whether hate speech laws should exist in all of that. I mean these the most automatic. I mean literally unstoppable form of self expression is your face like if you feel an emotion your face will show it for only a fraction of a second and that is absolutely stopped and people are okay with that. i mean. This isn't safe in places that have large amounts of valuables that are able to be carried hands right away like you need to look be have situational awareness and look at me like that guy. Looks like he's about throughout the place. That guy is looking for the bathroom. And that guy looks like he's stoned but you can't so another level of it is okay. Well we're just gonna stop the economy. I mean there was a time where people were suspicious that the government might take over the economy and that that would be a problem surprise. And now we're we're cool with it. Well how about we just arbitrarily tell you that you are now imprisoned not for doing anything. Just for existing. Well in your house there was A bit of commotion around the prison industrial complex for People questioning how come there's so many prisons being built and why are most of them being built by private companies. You know instead of being built by the government for. I mean they were being built in cooperate but you know whatever but now it's just like disguise prison right now. Yeah the dave f smith prisoner whatever it is and so that kind of went away right. We didn't hear much more about that. For i didn't anyway my start paying attention to it closely but it seemed to have fallen off the radar as far as the mainstream media is concerned and then i realized when this all kicked in. What was the terminology that they used lockdown We're going to put everybody into lockdown. What is that. that's a prison term. Why did they stop building the prisons wealth because they decided to use your house instead then they they were just like oh. We don't need to build anything when people already have a place to stay. We'll just make sure they stay there. The prison is your mind off. You have the ability to take off the mask until outside and go wherever you want to right now. This will only end when you do. 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Our telephone number is six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty that six three two eight three six one six zero in the studio tonight. It's myself the reverend captain. Kick ass pick mutineer and we were talking about this article from evi actually written by psychiatrist. Who says that people are suffering. Americans specifically are suffering from mass delusional psychosis because of the overreach and covid. That is the government over. Reach the government's reaction. The government lockdowns the mask mandates The curfews the all of the elements. Of what i refer to as martial law except for the tanks in the streets and you know soldiers at every corner outside of that. I mean if you consider how militarized the police are might as well be marshall. I can't see any real difference between this and martial law. It's a good question on places. Where does that line get crossed exactly. Let's go to your calls and thoughts. We've got robert calling from michigan robert. You're on free. Talk live guys. Thanks for taking my call. Listen every sunday night. When i'm working and i gotta tell you You guys are always entertaining and full of A lot of information. And i love all the subject to talk about. It's very eclectic. And i appreciate that. What's on your mind tonight. I consider myself. I consider myself to be kind of an information junkie. Not necessarily smarter than anyone. But i'm always looking at information and facts and trivia and. I'm kinda pretty good. Regaining that kind of stuff. And you're talking about this kovic situation and it's one of my favorite subjects and one of the few people that regularly doesn't wear a mask if i don't have to I have a kid. So i kind of do that to be a good example for him but otherwise i i is real but i think it's way overblown and i think if the government really cared about our health and about our safety they wouldn't just tell us to wear masks I think there was so much misinformation misinformation early on now. It's all this information But i think that the wearing the mask saying is absolutely joke. They should be touting everyone wearing an end ninety five or better rather than just a mask and to make sure they work properly and they don't do that because i like you guys said earlier. It's about compliance. it's about obedience. So how co. I got covered myself and it was nothing more than a bad cold. I've had way worse in to pass so robert. Let me ask you a question. How is wearing the mask around your kid. An example a good example for your kid. Well i'm more of a rebel. Probably than i should be so i don't wanna have him be taking that as an example to misbehave in other areas he kind of knows what i feel about wearing the mask and i just wanna make sure that he doesn't take that and say well if i don't have to wear if dad doesn't have to ask. I don't have to wear a mask. And you know if dad wants to be independent and i could do what i want. And other areas saw panelist with regard to him. I mean rebelling against insanity is good. I don't understand how any of that is bad. I mean you are rebelling. You have a you know. obviously you're you have. An opinion differs from well. Say the mass amount of people that are in the world. But you know teaching that to. Your son isn't necessarily a bad thing. Don't accept what everybody tells you to just because they tell you to do your own research do your own you know. Feel it out. You know. Figure it out for yourself. That's what is important. I think to teach your kid and and we are teaching them that. I mean for example. I'm not exactly a global warming advocate. He knows that as well and there are a few other things that that are out there that the sheep all of this world go along with that he knows that i believe is misinformation. Or it's information or i. There are things that are out there that are basically just used to control us in one way or another so but at nine years old. They're little more impressionable as far as taking it. A step or two to fire precocious and it got to be careful with just a little bit would would you consider. Possibly you know sitting down and explaining what you're about to do and then going out unmasked with him somewhere in public. And i have done that but at the same time Don't want to necessarily cause any problems. Because again i'm a little bit more independent and i get a little bit Defensive shall we say when it comes to Position and i don't want that to be something where he sees that. I'm being confrontational and that's acceptable either. Because i don't take any crap from anybody i see. Why don't want him to be a little. I don't wanna be. I don't want him to be quite as bad is i am i mean how is he going to take not wearing a mask too far. I'm sorry what was that. How is your son going to take not wearing a mask too far. Is he going to have to faces. I mean well. For example they have to wear it at school and he's he does go to school in in our school district. They do attend class so if he were to rebel as a nine year old in that environment he would have repercussions and that would fall on that deal with and that's not a battle that i'm willing to fight. Well i have to ask for for someone who is is willing to think for himself. Why are you putting your child in public. School can't afford a christian school badly. And we watch what he's being taught and We're careful about that. And when we do see that he's being taught some things that we don't believe is is right or is the truth for example warming. I i believe that that global warming or climate change is real. But i don't believe that it's manmade so and those kinds of instances does know how we think and i'm not trying to brainwash them either. I mean he's gotta be independent on his own as well. I mean i don't. I don't know that a private school would be much better on anything like that. They're still going to teach. The i mean the christian private schools are still going to teach a mainstream views on. I mean pretty much. Every you're old he's in. You can pick schools that he's in on a private level or a christian school level that yeah well are not perfect. I know that better than the public schools and he's done in a bad one for public schools. That are way worse. Ones out there as well too school. Can't fight all the battles so does your household need a dual income to get by know. Why aren't you homeschooling because not qualified for it. I did try to do that when he first. When when this whole thing in the spring of last year He's got some. Add issues adhd issues. And he's also got some Other things going on in your not qualified to homeschool like you're not qualified compared to do you think the public school is doing a better job than you because that would be sounding lee ski. I don't think that's actually the case. That's been disproven repeatedly that these so-called educational professionals end up with much much worse results than people who aren't trained to do it but home school their kid anyway. If you want to send me your city. I will hook you up with local resources. Wherever you are that will walk you through that. I would appreciate that if you have some information. So i know that when i tried this home schooling for the few months that he had when he was when everybody was on his own it was. I wouldn't do the remote learning learning because those are two different things that again homeschool remote learning because those are two different things. We hold him over. Can you on robert. We're going to bring you back after this. okay standby. we're we'll bring you back six three two eight three six one six zero if you'd like to join the conversation. We'll hear more from robert in michigan and his adventures in home schooling coming up And yes it's free talk live. You're in the right spot. Our telephone number. It is six zero three two eight three six one six zero six zero three two eight three six one six out. If you'd like to join the conversation in the studio tonight it's myself. The captain big mountaineer and ninety. And we have been talking to roberts in michigan About the delusions. That people have Because of an article that we were talking about from ev magazine regarding the cove. Nineteen and roberts Has said that. He attempted to either homeschool or remote learn with his child. So we wanted to get some clarification from him robert. You're back on the air. Can you hear us. i'm here okay. Great melanie go ahead. Yes so. I guess i i wanna clarify. What were you trying to home school or were you trying to do remote learning because well they shut the schools down in early spring of last year because of covid and they were as prepared for that as they should have been which i understand because nobody was prepared for back then and so. They gave us some curriculum to teach him teacher. The students at home and it wasn't in. They didn't involve any remote learning at that time. Okay and that's that's that was. Yeah that was a little that was i am not qualified for. I'm not prepared for it. I don't have the mentality for it. I don't think i would be a good teacher to my son in that regard overall. You're basing this a couple of months of unplanned chaotic curriculum. That you're given by public school that you kind of chaotically inserted into your life and your son knew that this was when an end. That's kind of hitting every worst scenario all at once you might have. You might indeed have some trouble following their curriculum which their curriculum is not designed to educate freethinking individuals. That's not what it's there for. So yeah i mean you. The fact that you haven't been trained to follow their curriculum is going to make it difficult to follow their curriculum. That doesn't mean that you can't actually teach them useful things that doesn't mean that you can't actually educate them and help to bring out their natural curiosity but there are groups and homeschooling is legal in michigan. Because i like you don't have to do much. I just looked it up right era groups that will support homeschooling families in home schooling. Parents not remote learning. Because that's not what they're four they've been around for years and years and some people have already raised their kids and they're grown and their kids are now doing this. There is people you can go to for support. Some people write their entire curriculum. Some people use there's christian curriculum you can buy and then some people will just use that some people will use that and then tweak to what they want or what is appropriate for their kid where their kids at and the the curriculum that you were handed the the little piece of Here's what you're supposed to do. I mean number one. That was not designed for you to do like Number two you said yourself. They weren't prepared for this like they didn't have the the resources to say. Okay here's what you need to do. They kind of slapdash together. So i mean it's no wonder you're having trouble following a something that wasn't designed to actually help them and be something that wasn't done well and if your kid knows okay Homeschooling now i'm gonna get a group of home schoolers that we go to their events. Y you i'm going to have friends there. He's going to do a lot better with that because he's a person then well now you're going to be isolated at home. And here's some books. Like those are two different things. And i and i and i agree with that. And that's the other aspect that is missing from the home schooling equation. I mean we we stay on top of what he's being taught and what he's learning and and and that kind of thing and the curriculum that they're teaching but he does. I mean he's proved to do much better in a social environment regarding schooling. He did terrible by himself. Table in a chaotic unplanned environment. But even if that's the case they have homeschooling co ops that you can use my email on the show is melanie at freetalklive dot com also on facebook. Melanie neighbors. There's a you extra you the oh you are. S if you actually know your city. But i don't know if that was supposed to be public i i will email you coops and home schooling groups that will there are people who have our veterans at this and they will. 'cause i'm not in michigan and i can't tell them how to work through the system and that's a big misconception. People think that they have to do all of this on their own. They think that they they can't have their kids socialized because they're they're home schooling them and while that might have been challenges in the past. That's increasingly just not the way. It goes particularly where you're at in michigan. There's some christian curriculums. I can send you a look. What groups are actually homeschool groups as opposed to private schools or remote learning support groups. And send you those And i know a bunch of people here who do this. I'm going to do it when my kids are old enough. And i was home schooled. So feel free to ask me whatever Your state the city that you get when you call. Is that your real city. It's not my exact city but it's close enough. Okay well obviously you gotta stay a little bit on the discrete site here. But you've given your email address. And i will contact that at some point this week and we can connect that way if you're okay so then that's what city i'll look in and then yeah email me for both you and listeners out there who are concerned with this topic i mean very recently we have had the number of home schoolers double so while there was a certain amount of support network to help each other out with this and to make sure that they get the social interaction that they need. It is twice as much as it has been before. I mean this isn't necessarily need to do on your own. If there resources that would help me regarding is Add or adhd that that. That's another little twist to this. And i wanna make sure that we do pursue this in the near future that that's handled as well. He does need a little tutoring and a couple of subjects. Because he's a little bit behind due to circumstances beyond anybody's control And one thing that i can tell you is that it's going to be a lot harder to do the traditional sort of prussian industrial style of schooling if have add because they're not naturally inclined to sit still and be quiet. And i know that new hampshire has resources for that. But that doesn't really like speak michigan. But i haven't looked into it. I'm sure that there are people in michigan. Who have dealt with that. You're not the only parents on planet earth that has a son with those types of needs much less one. That you know is considering possibly the homeschool advantage so Do wait wait wait wait. I'm not the only one that's right did you have any of. This is all right. Have a good night. thanks mike good. Good luck robert and for the rest of our listeners. Out there to you know you should consider this if you have children get your children. In my opinion the f out of government schools. Yeah the last poll. I saw said that ten percent of people are now doing homeschooling. that's a lot. Yeah percent of people are doing schooling so some people are saying. They're home schooling right now. Who are not well that as it may still twice as many as before and that's a lot of people that can help you out with this difficult. I'll take the net gain six three two eight three six one six zero more. Free talk live is on the way. What if the united states and the soviet union had fallen land sea air and the astral plane struggled for dominion across parallel dimensions on the surface of the moon. 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Let's just go ahead with your calls and your thoughts. We've got david new mexico david. You're on free talk live. Hey so this is your second night. Back on the air. In the albuquerque metro area which albuquerque itself is five hundred and sixty thousand people in the metro. Area is just sort of a million and then and this is sunday night. So you heard in the central albuquerque area and you heard in northern new mexico. So that's about a million to a million One and a quarter million people that if the if they wanted to could hear you on broadcast radio you know without having to go to the internet. They could you over the air albuquerque. Here yeah and on saturdays. You get another quarter million for because the southern sedation. I n. n. is on the air and Let's see we're in the united states where a government Of the people by the people for the people right. Yeah so so. That's so that's uh three now. So i'm gonna open session of government right now and And we're now officially in session Government session here of the people by people for the people and first of all i would like The the anybody in new mexico to use this government forum to call in tonight or other nights and Express your concerns about The professional government The ones that are getting paid here in new mexico or elsewhere and especially if you have some complaints about corruption I'd like to hear that and until we hear from let me. I want to drop one more little bit about what i know about new mexico. Corruption and concerns otherwise and that is So so i just defeated raul torres and his wife nasha torres who are both a one hundred thousand dollars. Plus salary State employees are state. Employees county employees judas judicial district employees. I guess however that works with the. Da rowell's was the district attorney in burlington county and he tried to put me in prison for a total of three years with four different charges for calling his wife's university nasha tourism his wife and at the university of new mexico. She's the dean of students there. Which means that like raul de as the chief disciplinarian for the county of The second judicial district in bernallio county. His wife noshir door is the chief disciplinarian for the entire university of new mexico. And there's kind of a conflict of interest there that's one concern Because they're in and actually as proof of it. They had to transfer one of the there was a basketball player that was charged with some stuff and they had the transfer that out of roles jurisdiction to another jurisdiction in new mexico because of that very complaint that i just voiced and so that should be addressed but and and there's a million things could be addressed but to to narrow it down so that's one thing. Let me give you a second one. I just defeated relatives. He was trying to put me in prison for three years for insisting that i had a right to call in to his wife's radio station once again is right. Wife is nasha torres and her radio station is a key. Unm the university of new mexico station entirely entirely funded with taxpayer dollars. Just like her salary. Salary of her husband and They told me not to call their station anymore. Because they didn't like to hear me You know nobody likes to hear it but They didn't wanna hear me anymore and they claimed that they didn't have to hear it and nine said that. Hey you're entirely owner paid for by taxpayers. So i got the same rights as everybody else under the fourteenth amendment and other law and they called their private police force university of new mexico police force me charged with four different charges. And and and i ended up getting thrown in jail for three days for five years. Wow when did you win this I realize it's recent but like has been days weeks. it's been days weeks and months. I won the first of the four months ago. One most recent of before Couple weeks ago. Yeah they have no more. That was the end of them. And here's here's the in addition to the the the concerns that i presented. Here's the one. I wanted to focus on tonight. And that is that so they. The the prosecutor filed their Late prosecution you know they're they're they're no prosecution. They're not gonna pursue the charges but when they you know so you know When that happens people generally defendants like myself. Generally go well good. It's over but as melanie may already figure where i'm going with this when they dismiss it and i asked this in court of Assistant da Kaminsky tyler kaminsky in the presence of joe victor valdez And it's on the court record. I asked him Assistant da kaminsky. Are you just. are you When you file this motion to dismiss Is this a dismissal without and nobody knows what that means and i always get it confused. Melania knows what it means in a nutshell. what it means is Can you refile the charge. If you if you decide tomorrow you wake up You know you didn't get any from your wife the night before. Then you wake up and you're pissed off and you decide i'm gonna i'm gonna take it out on david olson. I'm going to refile the charges that dismissed yesterday And that's that's the case they can. They can have if it is with prejudice. Is that right you any question. If it's without prejudice you can bring it back up. Yeah okay thanks yeah so so they. They dismissed without prejudice which means that they can bring it back up again so my question one to raul torres and everybody else is you know what if you dismiss them thing. Why don't you dismiss it with prejudice. Why are you holding that last little. Bit of control Until the time clock out which doesn't another couple of weeks or month or two or whatever it does. Why do you do that. Why do why don't you dismiss it so that It's it's a done deal rather than that. You have the option to to refile it. That's rather abusive. Raul torres and national torres isn't isn't it well. It sounds like the whole thing that you've been through has been rather abusive. You know. I realize that You're a frequent caller. The free talk live and we have fun with you. I would hope that another radio say she would have just as much fun with you as we do here on free. Talk live and we thank you for the call tonight david. He's been an interesting battle. That's for sure. Would you care to clarify the non-prejudiced versus if you're you're dismissing with prejudice are with without prejudice. The complaints are it's usually whatever they call it in that jurisdiction. Is there like an expiration date that he alluded to if there's a statute of limitations on the crime is and so that that applies to the dismissal. Well it applies to. They can't prosecute you once so whatever. It was alleged to be committed. So if it's a week away from being two years in the statue of limitations is two years it doesn't matter how many times filed it and then dismissed it before once that two years is the trial hasn't started. You're done okay. Thank you continuing on. Let's go to lee calling from planet earth lee. You're on free talk. Want everybody speak to the people that are stuck. Were thinking about homeschooling. I apologize can can you hold on. Can you stay stay with us. All right thanks. I just hear the music coming on. And so we'll we'll bring you back shortly to stand by. Because i want to talk to this human being or potential alien who's calling for planet earth. We thank you well. 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We could be on two hundred and fifty radio stations. It's all up to you if you like our programming. You like the content that we bring you like the personalities that we have please consider becoming an amplifier and helping us get on more radio stations over at amp dot freetalklive dot com. There are some perks. If you do become an amplifier he get some special benefits and that kind of thing and then cam thank you for being a platinum level which is at least twenty five dollars a month. Twenty five bucks. Thank you then kim. so Let's go back to. I presume you are a human being lee calling from planet earth somewhere. But i didn't actually ask you that. When i screamed your call so lee. You are on free talk live. What's on your mind all of those. I'm just. I'm underneath the milky way. Just south big dipper compared to the milky way and chess. A little bit south of the big dipper subdivision. They called planet or asked. I wanted to speak into the home school and Anybody that's struggling. You're thinking about homeschooling at like robert thicket. He's not qualified. Let me tell you me and You know back in the nineties Couldn't read write spell Just couldn't do it you know. And it's somewhere in the nineties. I started reading the bible. And once i got the scriptures and i started green. I can read my spilling horrible but Before that I had my daughter I ended up home schooling her until she was nine years old and it was simply through. I guess it was a backup but it was something dealing just going through a book open it up helper work through the the reading process and By turn she was nine years old. She was passed me with reading writing and spelling So you know if anybody else. And i'm telling you i call to be ditch digger me with a shovel every once in a while they might let me use a pick but You know anybody could do it. And you know. There's nobody on this planet that loves that child more than the parents so if think that you know they're struggling with adhd any any label. You wanna put on it. You just gotta expect them to To have struggles with it and just love 'em through it walk them through it and be patient and diligent any melissa's ernie but you know she. She can speak more than anybody because she's been through it but When my daughter find a yellow when she was ten years old she wanted to go to To public school. And one of the stupidest thing. I did but I let her go well that next year and the year after that she was already now with her homeschooling. She sure he knew everything that the kids were learning at that You know so it was like she was doing nothing for the next two years what they were going through. She'll dirty that frequently. The home school actually like i hear it all the time about how they are academically. You know in front of ahead of the game compared to their public school counterparts. Yeah she's right now. She's got her own a horse thing going over. She's a it question writer and teaching other people to right so you know she did the laughing any type of social skills and take her to work with me and Shit hang out you know. Meet people that. That i was with so she was a she was with me over just for any. Don't be bashful. don't think that anybody else could do a better job than you. Just because they got a degree you know you love that kid more than anybody on this planet for everybody listening. The public school are really in private schools. To are kind of necessarily or behind because you have twenty to thirty different kids in the same classroom and they don't really out for subjects until high school. I think one person might be really good at math and a little behind an english. One person might be really good at english and a little behind in science so they have to teach to the the person who's the most behind in every subject whereas if it's just your kid and you'd have more than one kid and teach them separately because you don't have twenty kids if your kids a little bit behind an english will. Maybe you do some more remedial stuff in that but then they can still progress and everything else whereas if they were in a public school or private school there would be held back in everything until everybody catches up. So that's kind of necessarily the case in a group setting like and doubly true now that there's the no child left behind thing and and as far as the outcomes on this i mean the information is just crystal clear home schoolers average out at like eighty percent higher test scores withdrew so i mean that that is what an unprofessional doing this gets. You any other thoughts. Louis thank you. Thanks for listening. Appreciate the thank you Yeah you know. The scientists settled home schooling rules. I mean i'm being funny. But there is a whole boatload of data that suggests that home schooling is a far more effective method for children to lynn. And this kind of ties back into our earlier. Talk about mass delusions. Yes because if it bothers you that you might you know not be doing the best thing for your child by sending them to a public school. You might really want to look into that idea. Why does it bother you. Why does it 'cause you anxiety to think that okay well. Maybe you're not because a lot of the parents like. They actually take a look when they're allowed to do so because plenty of schools. Don't do this When when they're doing this remote learning stuff when they actually take a look in. They're like wait. That's it that's all you're learning you at a looted to the prussian. School system Earlier in our conversation tonight. And i just want to reiterate that to our listeners. Who may not have heard that. The prussian school system was developed to create obedient factory workers and soldiers and soldiers. This is where the rows of desks come from. What they wanted to do is be able to train these people to you know. Pull the levers hit the switches. You know that kind of thing. It was never designed to be a a daycare if you will where it was responsible for teaching children how to grow up and be a part of society. It was never designed for any of that. It was designed specifically to train people on menial tasks and to make them incredibly obedient. Now if you look at the united states public school system you will realize that that is the outcome that you're getting you are getting bay again to your point. Many people having been taught to the rooms lowest lerner right but then also a high level of obedience specifically to the state and so they are very successful at those two things. What they're not successful at is the delusion that everybody else believes. They're getting that. Their kids are getting when they send them to public school. I if you want your children to be obedient gullible naive than send them to send them to school if you want them to be capable than raise them yourself. I mean if you're gonna put up if you're going to put so much so much resources into these human beings why on earth would you not want to you know. Give them the the the benefit of your learned experience. Yeah and if you are a person who values freedom what can be more freeing than showing your children that it can be done by leading by example for them yourself and helping to bring about some change by doing a more free version of education that statistically shows is a better form of education. I can't think of a better way. And i mean part of the reason that that you end up having to go to trade schools and so on and so forth that they spent over a decade filling your head with status propaganda and not bothering to make you capable of doing anything at all. I mean can you. Can you balance a checkbook. Do you have a trade skill after they've spent a how many hours of every single weekday for over a decade supposedly educating. You know you're you're good for approximately nothing because it is a and it's a dark secret. It is day care. That's all it is. It's an it's modeled in the same way that prisons are modeled. Yeah the the bells landon school. That's all pavlovian response stuff you know when you hear them all the time to stop this subject when that's not how learning occurs learning doesn't occur for forty five minutes and then about an increasingly even the architecture of public schools is designed by the people that design presence. We are out of time. Thanks everybody for listening. 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Chicken farms and the antibiotic apocalypse

The Men's Room

33:15 min | 11 months ago

Chicken farms and the antibiotic apocalypse

"Before, we get started curious about entrepreneurship and success stories in the Middle East answer questions on the my stay APP about tech startups and influencers and share your opinions with other people. GO TO HAKAWATI DOT FM slash my say or use the league in the episode description. Hey, this is a heck. Oh, eddy production! Hey, welcome to the podcast I hope you're having a great day and are in good health. Because of covid nineteen has scared the Gebes out of you. Wait till you hear about this. Imagine a world where a paper cuts could kill you and as simple as td would leave, you permanently disfigured. Well until nineteen, twenty, eight, when Alexander Fleming invented the first antibiotic, that's how it was, and now the World Health Organization is warning that antimicrobial resistance is the major public health concern facing humanity this century. My guest today has released a report on a new gene that is spreading globally. That is causing resistance to co listen one of the strongest antibiotics available when that's referred to as the last line of defense. He's calling it a global crisis that threatens medicine as we know it. He's an assistant professor of food. Microbiology Safety at the university. Of Georgia among many other important and serious titles, please welcome to the show Dr, a smuts. High, smart is a smart okay, or should I call you Dr. S Month as okay. So many doctors out. There is okay that's right. There's only one doctor smart though. It's an unusual name. Actually we were just discussing. That is Lebanese name liberties, but I think it's originated in Egypt or Turkey but I'm not sure you know it's It's my dad's decision decision to give me this name and I didn't question him. I was too young. Well, it's it's very unique. Okay so. So we've been hearing about superbugs and antibiotics, becoming less effective for a while now, but what have you found in your research? That's cause for real concern. What's happening right now? Okay, so let let me start with saying that we are witnessing. Something called a crisis when it comes to antibiotic resistance. This is not something that I'm saying something that the W. H., o. and the United. Nations are saying so. It's not a situation that's limited to one country. It's global and the reason why we are saying. It's a global crisis because we rely a lot on antibiotics to treat infectious diseases prior to the Nineteen Thirties nineteen twenties infectious diseases. You know infections with Beccaria they used to claim lives. Lives you know our life. Expectancy was low because of infectious diseases with the discovery of antibiotics. Basically medicine has changed. You know these simple infections or complicated infections later on that used to claim lives now can be treated easily with a simple and effective and relatively cheap intervention, which is antibiotic and this actually this being effective and cheap is the demise of antibiotics because we started relying on them heavily. And, we knew even when when. Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin in his paper that he He wrote his. Very famous paper. He said that the resistance is going to happen. Because antibiotics are found in nature, which means that mechanisms that are going to resist antibiotic are also going to be found in nature, so the over use and abuse of antibiotics will increase and enhance the spread of resistance meaning that simple infections that used to read with penicillin, Ampicillin, or These antibiotics are no longer. treatable because the bacteria evolved. They became resistant. Now the second problem is that because they are relatively cheap, big Pharma stopped investing in new antibiotics, so we are running out a new options to treat infections so previously there was something called. The golden age of antibiotics were every five or six years they come came up with one or two or three new antibiotics. So if resistance happened, you had an alternative antibody to us now. We don't have alternatives, so we need to. To really preserve what we have. Otherwise we are going to be facing a major problem. Some of the forecasts they predict that in twenty fifteen up to ten million people will be affected by antibiotic Resistant Infections. This is more than cancer and more than non communicable diseases in many some of the noncommunicable diseases, so it's a major major problem. Now the other thing that I want to mention here. Is that antibiotics they? are involved in almost every aspect of modern medicine, so it's not only about treating infections is also about making sure that immuno-compromised people can stay healthier for a longer time if you have an organ transplant, antibiotics involved If you have simple operations in the hospital, antibiotics involved so you losing them. Is a big big problem losing their effectiveness, a big problem and we are not talking about something that's going to happen in the future is actually started happening now as you said super bunks. superbug by finishing is a bacterium that. Does Not respond to an antibiotic before so at acquires resistance to it an example of very famous example up pneumonia only two summers ago here in the states, a lady in Nevada died because of in ECLAMPSIA infection that causes pneumonia. That couldn't be treated by antibiotics used. So, what was her prognosis? Help from nurses was we cannot do anything for her and she died. And this is becoming more and more frequent, and it's predicted that if we don't take measures effective measures right now. Then, we are having to a very problematic medical crisis. Yeah, that's that's super scary Maybe so according to a pew report seventy five to eighty percent of all antibiotics globally, and we use a lot of antibiotics. I was reading about it today, and it's growing market. They're just producing more and more, and they're so cheap and people are using them for everything. So seventy five to eighty percent are given to animals raised for food. So how are these antibiotics making their way into humans as it from eating the meat? It's not only if via eating. The meat is three different routes. You're exactly right so almost eighty percent of all antibiotics produced globally go into animal farming, and when we talk about animal farming, we are talking on all kinds of animals, meaning poultry cattle, fish aquaculture, so eighty percent, and this is a huge number now. This is an estimate, right? And they are used actually for three reasons. antibiotics in animal farming there are used for to treat infections because animals like humans, they get infections, and they sometimes get. Infections was with similar bacteria like humans for example Salmonella San. Juan affects humans and it affects animals, so they are treated for infectious diseases of there's an animal sick use antibiotics they are used for something called prophylaxis meaning. If that is something that's going to be stressful for the animal like let us say an animal like a cow broke its its foot. Soup and it needed an intervention a medical intervention. They give prophylaxis so that it doesn't antibiotics via prophylaxis, so it doesn't develop an infection. These two. Are Humane practices. These two are necessity practices. The controversy is the third application which is the use of antibiotics for growth promotion meaning. We give the animals antibiotics in their feed over a certain period of time to make them fatter and shorter period of time. So the amount, a huge amount of antibiotics in the feed is given at something sub belief in level, so it's not enough to kill the bacteria, but enough to trust the bacteria it to gain resistance, and because the antibiotics are given over a longer period of time, and only for an economic purpose which is to fatten the animal. That is controversial. This is why in Europe. This practice in many European countries has been bat has they banned it so you're not allowed to do growth promotion with antibiotics in certain European countries in the states in two thousand seventeen. There's a directive that mandates by the FDA that to stop using antibiotics in feed. A farm animal feed, but in other countries like in the Middle East in Africa in the Far East. They still practiced growth promotion now one of the main problems of US doing this is the type of antibiotics that. Might be used for example if we take the situation in Lebanon Collison is an antibiotic this Coniston is it called the last resort antibiotic? And then he's reason why it's called. Last resort is because it's used after all other antibiotics failed, so let us say. A patient gets an infection. They used ampicillin. It didn't work they use the sporting in didn't work and these antibiotics. They finally resort using collison, and this is the last resort. If this fails one of the last resort. If this fails, then the patient is in big trouble. That doesn't mean there are no solutions, but that means that solutions might be difficult. You know you might get to a point where you have amputations, or you might get to a point where you cannot do anything for the patient. So call it. Is Used in agriculture, and in two thousand sixteen in China, they discovered for the very first time a gene called MC are that confers resistance to causton in bacteria. Now this MC are was unique because it could transmit distress instance between bacteria, so it can jump from one bacteria species to another. That was in two thousand sixteen four years ago. Now am CR. It can be found on five continents in different countries and the problem is. Is Very severe in countries where they still practice using causton animal farming in Lebanon for example. We found We did research on animal farm, specifically poultry farms, and we collected chicken droppings, and we've tested them to find. That gene MC are there. We found that up to ninety five percent of all samples. Had the UNSEE our gene in them and that MC our gene was transmissible. This is an extremely extremely high number. And okay. So, what does this mean this mean you know one you find something some word especially when it's a bacterium or a gene. They don't stay in the same place. When we did more investigation, we actually found that gene irrigation water when we did even more investigation, we find that gene in seawater because they are all linked right because of waste that waste with farm waste will pollute nearby water bodies, nearby water bodies will eventually find their way to the sea cetera. System problem it's it's a complicated problem. And not only we found this in water, and in on farms. We founded in a toddler in a community, so it was like he was less than. Two years old and in a community, which means no prior exposure to hospital settings. How how did that child get gene is how is it by ingesting it? You I know you're posting a lot on on your twitter. You posted some reports about the Mediterranean. Water on beaches. Having this resistant e-coli bacteria is going in through a cuts and stuff like that. How do Do People. How does it get transmitted to people will there are several different ways of course. Ingestion is one of them so if you eat contaminated food that has bacteria that has this gene in them You will end up with coniston resistant infection for example. watered If you drink contaminated water, you will end up with this gene in the body environmental exposure. If. You're swimming. You will end up with this resistant bacterium and the resistant gene in the body, so it can be via food via environment via water. these are the different ways of exposure now the danger of it is that this gene is transmissible. Remember that's the key point here so it can jump between bacteria. And what we have found is that for example very this enfranchised populations like for example refugees. We found that gene and bacteria and in drinking water even right, and these are populations that are susceptible to disease now when we ingest this gene and this bacteria, and if they are able to colonize to get hold of our digestive system or to to find a place in our digestive system remain. What happened is that they are going to divide and one way they divide. They get excreted in bigger numbers, so there's a cycle there. That needs to be stopped. Why it needs to be stopped. Also, based on our research, I measured the use of Khalistan for human infections in hospitals I found that between two thousand, ten and two thousand seventeen, the use of Holliston to treat infections in hospitals increased by five times. What does this mean that means? We rely on Khalistan to treat a complicated infections and our hospitals okay. It also means that and did some calculations. These are all assumptions. This odd mathematical projections I found that in two thousand seventeen, we important enough Khalistan, and we imported only to use it for human use. I mean not I'm not talking about animals. That was enough. The amount was enough to treat three thousand patients. I mean if CONISTON will fail. Due to the emergence of resistance in in the environment in water and food, it would be catastrophic. And I'm not mincing my words. He had yes. It would be catastrophic because we rely on it now why? Colston. You can stay in hospitals for example is tightly regulated or should be. Thank you elected. It's used in agriculture is not so I can go to any a vet store or drugstore that Cato's for farmers and I come by Causton and I can give it to my animals, so it's not regulated. I believe in Lebanon because of all of the issues in that country that we should do like, but the Chinese has have done like what they have done in the Philippine and in other countries we should ban use of CONISTON and agriculture. Is it the same problem for example in Saudi Arabia the UAE it's it's a problem where where they produce their own food. Right like for example, many of the countries that you have. Have mentioned. They don't necessarily have farms, but yes, for example in Qatar they did. Detect are in poultry, so yes, and we actually I did a mapping of the region which is North Africa and and the Middle East and the gene was detected in in Saudi Arabia. It was detected in Egypt it was detected in Morocco Algeria and other countries, not necessarily an animals, though some of them were in animals. Some of them were. Very very interestingly. You know since we carry this gene as humans not only buy food, we can move it around meaning. Let us say you know that is. The Middle East is known for its for hosting like some of the biggest human gatherings in the world, whether it's in Hangzhou or in pilgrimage to Jerusalem right, so imagine that you have people there. That are getting exposed to that gene, and then they are carrying it to other places I, actually a paper about that, and it's been documented. How would you transmit that like at a big event because you were saying that it's like through the stool? Right Divide, and then you exist. Is that what you're talking about? Yes, that's one way that I say. You're an pilgrimage and You'd ingested food. That's contaminated with MCI in. With that gene in a country where that gene is prevalent them than you are going to be colonized, and then you're going to transmit it to your country, and then in your you don't. FECAL pollution happens, so it can be executed in that country, and then it can contaminate something else. Sewage treatment is also important most definitely now the thing that you should. Should also keep in mind since we're talking about food, water, humans and environment right so there should be an intervention that inner should be a bottleneck and the bottleneck here. Is that using this antibiotic in farming? You cannot withdraw the use of Coniston from hospitals. You can regulate it tightly and I believe it is regulated. I'm talking about Lebanon. I believe is. Is regulated to a point in hospitals because it's only used under certain conditions, it's really strong right? I was reading that it was banned for many years, and then they kind of reemerged in two thousand sixteen, because it was a damaging to some organs, so in medical use Khalistan was banned in seventies while not bad, but it was removed in the seventies because. because. It has different talk society. It can damage the kidneys right so they. They decided okay. Let's move away from it. But then when these all these antibiotic resistance emerged, they needed to resort to something that still still effective and cost was of them, so they re introduced to human medicine, but keep in mind that it was never withdrawn from animal practices. Right, so it's widely believed. It's you to the use of this antibiotic and Animal Farming Practices that this MC. Are Gene the gene that causes? And jumps between bacteria emerged. Let me. Put put this scenario. Okay so. Let's take Salmonella for example. Let's take that. This Salmonella is already multi-drug-resistant. multi-resistant means is already resistant to at least three classes of antibiotics. Then, it's evolving to acquire resistance to Carbon Penance, which are considered to be one of them interventions in hospitals which are these antibiotics, so you have this bacterium, Salmonella or E-coli or club sealer that is resistant to all of these antibiotics, and now it acquired MC yard. So the antibiotic that you should resort to is no longer effective right, so that would be a scenario that should be stopped basically so that I don't want to scare anybody, but it should be stopped now. That paper that I. One of the papers that I wrote I titled It as audacious hitchhikers because they do they hitchhike. You know even if you say I traveled to a country that has a lot of art. And it's reported in the literature for example travelers from another land who visited places in Asia only for a short period of time whether they were young or old, they carried this gene back to the Netherlands so important to intervene in those countries to control the problem in those countries, so the the issue of people for example taking too many antibiotics, which is also another problem, right? People take antibiotics for everything these days, especially in the Middle East have a fever. Take antibiotics, but that's not where the problem lies right because they're taking bigger doses, so you're not developing that gene. Is that what I'm understanding new? New No, misuse and abuse the access without prescription and using them for things like flu, because antibiotics shouldn't be us with the flu, right because fluids, viral or using them for headaches is a big, no bad because what you're doing here first of all, you're killing the normal flora, the normal bacteria in your body, which allows for pathogens to take hold of your body, so you're eliminating the bacteria that are not resistant, and we use the term selecting for the that are resistant, so you are providing an environment for resistant bacteria to evolve and for resistant bacteria to persist in the body and in the environment. Remember something else also certain classes of antibiotics up to sixty percent, or even eighty percent of the antibiotic is not metabolized in the body is excreted, so it ends up in the sewage and water ways more resistance is going so when you have an antibiotic, what wherever you are in a hospital and outside the hospital on a farm you are basically selecting for antibiotic resistant bacteria I focused on Khalistan because of relation to agricultural right. That doesn't mean that Colston is on the only problem. No take that recycling for example A. Last resort. That's why I am I'm like sort of please ban it. You don't want to ban. All antibiotics at least ban the last resort. Focus on, but that doesn't mean that the other antibiotics are not problematic. Use of antibiotics in for all purposes in animals, whether it's treatment or prophylaxis as I mentioned previously in Europe and the US, is really really tacky regulated, even humans here in the U S. if you don't. If you want Ampicillin, you cannot go to a pharmacy and get ampicillin. You have to go to your doctor. He has to prescribe it for you without a prescription. You cannot get it in the Middle East. It seems like it's pretty much a free for all you just go to the pharmacist for whatever you want in the Middle East and in in Africa and in. And in Asia in many countries in Asia, that's really really big problem. That's why the predictions at that I mentioned previously about millions of people dying that most of the projections. The highest numbers are in Asia and Africa. Because of these issues, so it's a really complicated multilevel issue. There's the issue of people using antibiotics on their own. There's a issue of hospital use of the antibiotic, and there's the issue of using them in agricultural practices. Now also I have to mention that those antibiotics are not different so the antibiotics that you're using with your animals. Most of them are the same that you're using with with the humans. there are certain months that are specific for human at for animals but. The majority like for take for example in the US the FDA has. Finding member correctly forty one different antibiotics for animal us. Out of those forty, one, thirty, one or thirty, two are also used in humans. Right so this overlap. Let me simplify it I. Know that the issue is is not very direct forward, so if I'm taking insulin and I'm taking ampicillin own without prescription, and not the correct way than the bacteria mind body, they are going because the bacteria divide and mutations happen, I will be selecting for antibody emphasis resistant. Bacteria in my body or a pathogen, so if I keep doing this over time I'm won't be able to work on those bacteria same thing in agricultural same thing in hospitals. Last thing. I want to mention about agricultural I. Know I'm jumping between topics, but because it's really complicated, you told me that it's an issue of selecting for bacteria, resistant and selecting for jeans. It's not only that Causton is that it works like that, but other antibiotics. If they are not used properly in food animals, they can be absorbed by the muscles by the meat, and then if you are eating a chicken, or you're eating beef, you are actually ingesting antibiotics right so like take for example ampicillin because everybody knows ampicillin, right or tetracycline, those can be the word that we use accumulate. So if you are using them, wrongly in chicken or beef, they can end up in the muscle in the meat than when you ingest the meat, you are actually ingesting the antibiotic at low dosage, and as I mentioned previously when you use them at low dosage and bacteria highly likely to respond by by becoming my resistance by this. Whole other issue and I know that in the states you know they have these labels on on meet that santee biotic free, but it's not really well regulated and I know that there's a private industry that's responding to this. There are start ups. There's this company called food I D I don't know if you heard about it where they're testing the meath wallets as soon as you know at the slaughterhouse as soon as possible and takes ten minutes to see if it has any so there, there's like a private industry that's kind of. Of Emerging to help regulate in the US at least I think it's GonNa be a while before that happens here but I wanted to. You know I was reading reading into this today, and I read that the risk of a woman dying in England during Labor is today forty to fifty times lower than sixteen years ago because we have antibiotics, so that means that we could be going back to a world where giving birth is like playing Russian Roulette, right? Do People realize like serious? This is looked in the Middle East North Africa know. Quite frankly I'm being frank. they they they. Some people do but no. They don't realize. going back to the discovery of penicillin, when when person in was discovered, of course, it was found in a mold, and they needed to extract penicillin, and they had to do lots of things to extract to extract it, and it was around we will. Were to Cetera, so they were able to extract advice more doors, and they wanted to test it so happened that there was a police officer, a very long story that was actually that had a small engineer on on his face that got a bacterial infection. and. That police officer was going to die, so they tested. That does on him, and he got better, but unfortunately they didn't have enough to continue the treatment, so he died, so it's like a simple scratch on his face that was infected by bacteria led to his death crazy. It's not only you know. It's woman in Labor. Organ Transplant Immuno compromised individuals. if you're immuno compromised if you have an a a problem in your immunity, you susceptible to any kind of infection. So. You take antibiotics as a precaution This is why this is a global crisis. This is why we we are sounding. The alarm and we've been doing so this is. We've been doing so for many years. And I thought in my mind in when I first started this work in because I do i. am I researched this the US I research. In Africa and In Lebanon in the Middle East when I started that in Lebanon. I didn't expect honesty. I know there was the there is a problem, but I didn't expect to find. The resistance to MCI our and other antibiotics by the way I didn't only test. causton tested CONISTON and other a Antibi- I didn't expect to find. This high fisticuffs. I didn't find a expect to find this prevalence of this gene there It's a real problem. It's a problem that requires us to intervene and to intervene now, because the longer we wait. the more problematic it becomes especially that you said it multiplies splits, so you mentioned that countries should at least be banning Colin Kohistan If not other antibiotics in that third use that you mentioned for for agriculture. Should we also be investing in developing new antibiotics? Hundred percent hundred percent, because big Pharma is not or stopped investing in producing new antibiotics for a couple of reasons, because it takes a lot of investment to produce a drug as you know, and then if this drug bacteria will develop resistance to it, or it's going to be cheap, then it's not worth investing in Rather invest in things like cancer, therapy, diabetes and whatnot. So what the Europe and the states and other countries they are moving towards giving incentives to small companies to reinvest in in finding antibiotics, so they are giving the money, yes. Ideally in an ideal world, we want to find an alternative to antibiotics, but for now I think it's essential to seek new antibiotics because you know what I'm saying an alternative. Because every time you're going to find an antibiotic resistance is going to happen to this eventually. It's going to happen to that antibiotic unless it's used prudently and these these investments are crucial. These investments are. Now Attorney to antibiotics are there but You know they they should work more on like vaccines for example would be awesome. There is a technology that's called small molecules at these. Are they work a little bit differently than antibiotics? For example they use of probiotic bacteria can be an alternative to antibiotics so there are alternatives phages are alternatives, but we need to invest in in them. Now I need to point out something so. It's normally forgotten. Antibiotics remain especially important for people in countries that have economic problems like basically developing countries access to antibiotics. There is a must, but it has to be regulated of course meaning like you know how many infections you can control with a cheap antibiotic in Africa or the Middle East. It's a lot. We cannot stop using them for that purposes. However, we have to invest in new ones invest in different technologies regulated tightly where we can and banished where we can so that we can keep treating people because ultimately that's that's the purpose right. Yeah, and people forget that people think oh well. It's just in developing countries but. Obviously the problem may kind of explode there, but then it spreads to the rest of us so I'm so glad that you're doing this great work and keep it up. I hope I hope people heed your warning before it worse, and it's been great talking to you. Thanks for taking time out of your deep research like you. 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The Coffee Man Podcast #9 Think & Support Local

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The Coffee Man Podcast #9 Think & Support Local

"It's not easy to deal with. And it wasn't really applicable for So that's how we communicated very quickly and very we since checked how we can help ya. We owe saddle the horses. I guess guess and then going to be proactive. Which was the nice eleonora through these how to help h. nights way and i think we we unlock opportunities around trying out of cafes and selling milk using them as a wholesale pantry shining of bring the noise of supporting lung. I think that's what really came life and cafes excellent so many people across the country. The local cafe wasn't personifies niagara as much as you like. Fip swing austin. It's deeper dive. It's in contact points as a lot of the a lot of your friends alert night. Welcome to the coffee man. Podcast with world renowned barista olympian and successful businessman. Sasha which i'm craig jones high-performance leadership expert and host of the coffee man. Podcast sasha delve into a world of coffee and a will be on coffee as we the inner workings of ana coffee and share with you. The secrets behind making the perfect blend we explore the depths of what denies required to lead high performing teams analyze innovation and nurture talent so you can successfully shake businesses in teams of the future. It's now time for you to grab a cup of your favorite blend. Sit back relax and enjoy conversation with us on. The coffee man podcast. Hi and welcome to episode nine of the coffee man. Podcast think and support local with special guests rob collier from riverina milk in the previous episode. We spoke with special guests. Oh india's and sam cawthorn about qantas bringing people harm connecting communities through coffee and planes the value of giving back to those less fortunate twenty twenty making us more human and proximity is power in today's episode number nine. We speak about think and support local with special guest. Rob colleague from river in the milk about connecting coffee milk and great friendships. Resilience of the farming community connectivity and come robbery of the specialty coffee industry and supporting the local dairy and coffee ecosystem. We also delve into connecting people through local cafes sharing strategies to get people to gather the house and safety of people being calm leader and upgrading out communication. Take a leinen and join us for a great compasses Welcome back to the kaufman. Paul kostin here was sasha assisted today. Sasha i you know we we hit. It's christmas time years is happening. There's a lot going on in the world but you know we've got a great show coming up today. We were out sick and pot about mini series iran. How we are connecting communities and some wonderful stories from things that people who have been able to do throughout card with this supporting people and just really innovative ways to with the business ensure they can not only survive but thrive in twenty twenty. Twenty twenty one. Yeah absolutely has been a lot of fun. Actually having lost podcast. We've discussed beyond coffee and talking about a house and flying around and how of actually even has an impact to to what we do the coffee as well and how connected we are. I'm really looking forward to be discussing another. Possibly you know coffees to make off. You need water. You need coffee and you also need milk. And i'm so excited to actually touch base on the story about the milk and how not. We're not going to be discussing. How we taste like the stories and have milk impacts the people and how we can actually work together by connecting coffee milk and create some great opportunities and And also great friendships. So i'm excited about today's show ever really good and you know one of the the person we have on the show today is someone you've been working with long time and are now you have a great connection with them as well. So do you wanna introduce our guest today. absolutely well. i guess today's rob From remained a male ceo of the company. And i have known rob now for more than five years. We we know each other for longer throughout the shows and everything but we've started building a very fast very close relationship and what i believe was brought us together values more importantly and the divide. The rub looks at his business and he you know spoken to me about what's important for him and what he wants to do and achieve i was i was hearing his stories about a male can. How few looks out looks after the farmers and it kind of took me back to what i have already been doing for so many years with our farmers third turbo countries and origin. But i'm gonna leave. Yeah i'm going to strobe. And i would also love to welcome you Ratio show and in the same time. Maybe you can share the story how the met and a little bit about you and your company and let me grab some has been five years. I think since we started working together but it sounds foster. I on you Who sachet was before. The we run into each other competitions but probably didn't have a strong connection to be honest. Fashion is his sasser. Was you know very much someone in the industry and we were. We were finding out why little we had. We had good connect committee. And and i think generally reputation but it was still trying to work with some of the latest industry very fortunate. Saturation out Nearly two thousand sixteen sign. You wanted to come. And a two percent milk and developing a really suited. Some of his blends sifi society. Jump at the chance. That was a real opportunity. And it's worth that we've been trying to do for a law with without a rices and try to understand how did my out milk all relevant complimentary dispensary coffee We knew we appreciate our we get to that next level and really dive in with a guys we. Now we'll getting yesterday info. We where we saturate the team because dive in Doesn't do that justice. What we thought was probably going to be a month to work. I think was idle ten mounts really developing a milk. Bicycle suited ryan of sashes blends primarily raspberry candy. But the rest of the ryan. Just will we thought we had a pretty good. No decide if we didn't sashes against gripe but now these are the fly who's in these challenges. That i wanna make to really really bring this out and inside. That was fantastic. It was a brilliant. I am from a and the team to jask say okay. This is how these links at least guys guy to to get in on as best combination of of coffee is coffee is like a get saddam hussein the info and the intro ended up into. I think we use around rabbit halls and we've been down the hall. Seats of with a log comes through. Fortunately along no is not. it's hot work salts. It's been fascinating and so recovering. The milk is dealing with premium milk. Is that ride. And and we're as riverina milk with the milk. Come from obviously from cow but which part of australia so people get an understanding of of the background showy river fresh is is a small medium Fresh dairy produce in the riverina and offered us in factory. In ouagadougou Mine around some ninety. So it's one of these School madiun regional produces with a phenomenal history I got involved with business. In two thousand eight hundred. I forgot running it It always produces premium products. Probably tolerance story or connected with some of its market as well in some of its latin history and we knew we had a really positive reputation for quality and consistency and specialty coffee. And that's what we really wanted to sort of trying to live from work on in the last seek seven years So that's continent heritage. We've got a small group of about twenty five minutes in and around out the riverina so there are over a local. A lot of the second and third-generation longstanding histories of association with business inside with cry connect with the local farmers and the local community. And we really sorta just tell that story and bring that to law in the last few years. I'd love the specialty coffee journey. I can tell you adding title lot. But when i first got involved with the business and in front of foulness and say low fuchsias of these these lists of big part of the. This is going to on specialty. Coffee backed united six seven years ago. urine wilga specialty. Coffee seeing that melburnians orison cam variants. Drink perhaps not not enron and logan on. He's guys thanks value. What we bring to the table. They that they want consistency. That won't premium quality. They've got something. That and frankly in the impulsivity why they're willing to recognize and whereas justified Chromium full ringing attributes to a title So they come on an interesting journey i think. Originally there was i rolling and went on show on view. Is you sell you sell milk in a supermarket. That's the my apply. She's a senile is phenomenal coffee industry. That's than we can be than an in las nice of him visiting them on farm laura farmers of the rice trees in the industry and to honor as well analogy get. It's fantastic you've got. These are really focused on coffee. Telling alfalfa's mice difference on value. I can notice the difference. I understand it's attribute some interesting what i'm interested in working with you and i for a dairy industry that we all nod agricultural. Dairy industry has been a really tough ride the last ten days. It's a hot industry out with a lot of bright as a general comment that has engineers with sign. I'm really interested in what you do. Help me understand it. Let me work with you. Don't we take you on the journey. And he gives you an insight into what i do. I'd come back and it's like innocent and we wanna feel like being doing something for a reason. Let's give a real really on connect i feel. Griped recognize the. I can do something a little different. I recognized connecting with this riverina. Fresh brand and i love in our now. Mating also specialty coffee in australia saying no guard says the houston international in lanka australian burston championships and so a pretty important thing. Sorry it sucks giving them a real spring. I love it now. Every year we When gives them coffee for christmas. Presents thanked them on on. What's going on the industry. Your really and of course is play dates and cafes in and around the on some of these lawsuits of specialty coffee tree now at fights earth and around and cavalry veins from the russians that That we supply vice apply. Thanks throw the. I'd love to add to that. We really appreciate all the efforts you know been doing for us and not only for us as brian but also individual competitors in company i remember denny competed in world coffee in good spirits. Was you know you've only phone call away. And then he wanted to create this special cream for his irish coffee and the and you know him going to war guy and having your team to actually leave a different versions of cream and different fed contact and everything else. It's been incredible. And obviously then he ended up finishing between the world serving the best irish coffee in the world as well It's a big team effort. And and that's one thing what i feel. We have been doing successfully world. We keep pushing flavor forwards in a coffee. And you you know and you use your own expertise in milk with your amazing team to help us get to that perfection. But i feel now more importantly the reason we do that is you. You really leaving something behind the milk industry you you adding a greater value to the milk as opposed to just sell it to local shops at the bottom haji bottom price and sometimes then your production goes up possibly not even making not even a breaking even to the point that you found a marketing specialty. Coffee and equality is awarded. And i feel that you know what has been happening. Dates the milk industry. It's it's brought brought us closer together. And which kind of brings it up. That i'd love to touch base a little bit twenty twenty Because we the crisis We've learned the previous episode's as well that menu walk to get on amazing things can happen. And i'd love to understand a little bit more. About how the twenty twenty start for river with all of this crisis well we all we all across exactly the same time. Exactly this is why. And i think in this crisis hit. We also wear an industry that it was relatively recession proof. Pay happy to buy decent coffee in my circumstances on any of this quad four soul this circumstance where in the initial sort of feud is in a weight when things hit no shoe shutdowns and there was a huge amount of uncertainty We had a lot of issues all on us. You know we. We had cafes with reduce riding on riding a lotta shutdown since we were all. I think initially really and then very quickly you get back to basics. The communication was really important. I think we very quickly reached out to each other to send shape. I you know what we were saying in feeling was the simon and then how we roll going and that. I've been awesome great dialogue and i think against back to. I think the specialty coffee industry. And what i love to bag into it was it was. It was actually a very welcoming industry. If you into a fairly called thinking all river appreciates blocked off percents of of the khanate siri. The camaraderie yes. It's tough competition. There's lots of lies in the industry. It's all is in was an industry. I think that supported each other. And then i studied mine. Just coffee. old applies equipments on the ingredients supplies components. And i think that's we very quickly saw covid. The industry tried to step back on. How can we help each other halfway around each other because you know i think personally and from a business perspective. I'd certainly never gone through anything quite a challenging. We've the level of uncertainty. I mean we. We saw shoe drop in consumption and that through some very real challenges ally and did for all l. i. Coffee partners you know. There was a potentially down materially impact on trading levels which is not easy to deal with and there wasn't really apply book for so i think that's how we communicated very quickly and very we since we can help up. We all saddle the horses. I guess guess and then going to be proactive. Which was nice eliana. Words for these gonna help each other. And that's when i think we we unlocked opportunities around training out of cafes and selling milk using them as a whole south pantry challenging at wide paying. You know the noise of supporting local. I think that's what it really came to life and cafes excellent sign many people across the country local cafe. Nothing personifies lago as much as you local. Half way swing causton. i talked to you reached. It's contact points ways of the locals a lot of your friends alert united's and so despite having the very quickly is tight. Environment became a hub of local activity. Because sally melvin And all the pods me melvin. Paper were really allowed to do. They couldn't really do hell of a lot else other than go out and grab a tank right coffee it kind of a medium. I think it was a lot of media. I think from a single plate will add the industry. He said like my uncle cafe and my local barista's become horrid as without applying but it was supposed to ours from frankly. That's the where john silvia. My coffee at sewer. I can have a chat sewer. I can communicate in our national tokyo. Each other and energy to to get through this thing in and out blasting a long time. And i think that's where the industry in sit on candidates and say we can work together and bring this to live on this. This very answered. Jenny win sasha Spiked to me. Just around wind covid was hitting sicher. And and knowing that reverend use apply to the coffee the cafes etc rather than the big supermarkets and winnie mentioned that and it was like whoa. That's a big shift ri- where we have people inside the store. And i just found a really fascinating for me. That straight away for both of you just thought local you. How do we connect their communities together. How do we ensure that. We provide that that that place of comfort for people to come together as well as the businesses to continue to to actually survive during that spice. And i just kind of reminded me of going back into like a pre nineteen nineties s. Where the log who story. That was where you found out a little gossip. That was where you your. I think the person it was kind of like the mayor in a way was that person at the general store because the head volvo conversation with everyone it was with world's problems being solved so you know why both of you ever connect that. Yeah absolutely i do remember still received the email from rob asking. Hey can you please favor. Can you try to sell some meal to your customers. Obviously come to shove just to buy coffee but maybe up selling self you mill bottles as well in the same time. Which of course. During that night i thought about it and at that time i was not sleeping much nighttime. They a lot of thinking sessions so but at time morning came. had this really cool plan developed. Of course we done a team as well to start selling not only male but also other projects from my local supplies eggs small goods fruit and veggie because everyone in his is in the same. I guess tame field lotta five suppliers that are selling us. you know. Small goods eggs fruits veggies. They only work for the coffee shops and because at a time he could only just do takeaway coffee many coffee. Vigneault having any food So so the following day. The called bennett said. Hey can we have some fridges. Nine shops that to use them as display and go spend. You need them. And i think said today tomorrow like it was just something mission impossible like. Can you organize a frigid for so many shops within such period of time somehow rob said yes you can have them in. Was it couple of day strobe. I don't remember any more. Necessity of invention is just you. Just get busy. And whatever the circumstance he's and then the reaction was great aunt. I think it was. It was an opportunity it was less. i mean. of course we wanted to sell single about. Okay this is an opportunity. People were known to be of. The market's doing shops. And all this and the one place that everyone continue going to twist fa our these. How do yo- point of just getting the this title. Slide side with the bread. The eggs the by seeks as an opportunity to that how cape everyone connected with their local cafe from buys perspectives. Yes you wanna do it from commercial sense of just on keeping the business going hanging in there because what tough but it also became really splice and the logic applies. If you sit back let it. People could come khanates. I think the barista's saw and i think i think that'd be psychologists for a lot of us Sport i really. I think we did for them. Because our on the rollercoaster you know a lot of the local cafe has bris ambulances at least that connect to many allowed everyone together hanging there when we were up and down and knock right this week and you get picked over us earn. Just we have been flight on that. It was largely a role. The role of these delays. Frankly with sky on cd. Yeah exactly and as you mentioned. Robbie was not necessarily. Hey this is going to be commercially. Good decision that you're going to sell certain number of milk eggs was more to keep us connected. You know. we'll have a chat from week to week as last week. Was you know we've dropped down eighty percent but at least the here to get out of the shed the paint to get off. You'll go through. It will cheech her up share strategies. Or how can get better as well but in many ways the manage to keep staff busy as well because they they've excited to do this. Little changes exhauted adding value to. Hey i'm i'm going to sell this milk and it's not about where they're going to sell it. How many bottles. We we know that the we doing little step to have people in the cafe employed for longer insane have close partners to you. Know have their jobs for as well You know it was that you're not gonna give up. Bill vivo together. You've got closed down. We'll do anything we can Which kind of makes me think that after it's not over yet of course but when thinks come back to us. We we know what the niger we would love to do. Like me to get closer together. you know open up share ideas and only throughout that tomorrow we can sort of survive and and see some new exciting opportunity opportunities after. It's it's interesting comes to near. I grew up on a farm in new zealand where we don't really have too many issues. Rods very ready to get a drought whereas in australia. You know the farmers who not only milk but you also looking exhuming Connor projects that comes out that we eat on a daily basis. You ride this massive roller coaster of resilience. And i suppose this is the first one of the first times was seen in in in living memory of where it's it's gone beyond that and now it's so important that we stay connected to. How have you found the families you know if you go back to. The original with the project comes from how the farmers coping with the challenges at twenty twenty for them. Was it just as just another year of resilience that we've got to deal with interesting The headline is directly affected in in regional locations. Trauma from upset of lost spectacle. Like we have you know they. They went into lockdown restrictions. Anywhere near as much so. There's a little bit not as much from that. He's been slowly removed initially when encountered. And we'd wake even ima saints bicycle at three months earlier. That were nervous about these kinds of off shore. We'd written to them and say look it is gonna have to keep an eye on these not only way about sorta it was gonna play out at least at the frankly but so it has since Initially that will our concern. Fortunately on this is way is back to you. I guess your lawn values that you mentioned early on sacha and when you've got good relationships that's all in place when they hit you. Father place to navigate them so we were fortunate that we had colors. Area law and group that had vice. I guess so. Initially i said hang on you guys. A big coffee cafe is an oil rating in the news at how that sectors by hit a. We're going to be out and once settled the whole citizens again. We are working through a lot of uncertainty working with our partners china's to what we do as well. We pivoted abedian aspects of business. Our secrets it's really made a match occasion and just signed close to and the journeys i it's been our k. I come to your point there to very tough years drought. Fortunately through a lot of back end of carbon. I've had pretty good season. And i really spend fantastic distraction for them. I've had to get back to grind crops. Kind crops inside. They watching with a case law. But it's allow them to focus on. I guess when. I did this focus on eating. Fa stores out and getting out the door and side and this side are pretty good of so my saddam in the last three weeks and i think it very resilient and through a couple of drought and so now they are well. Things have been from a climate on farm that she. So that's the focus. And we trust you to maverick. I guess the market dynamics franklin the minute were navigating nizar cayenne feeling comfortable and encourage the. This is green shoots of opportunity. I guess and that's our view will say okay. It helps when relationships your had to navigate stuff previously. And i kind. This is the next curve guys. Let's let's nighthawks and we'll get through. This is the world is kind of experiencing adversity at a at a high level. You're more than what they've never seen. Before you know. Most people can generally liver feely consistent live. You know the year year by a doesn't change too much but for pharma it does. What is some of the strategies. You've seen the farmers put in place that you're people when the rest of the world who have gone through this adversity and uncertainty right now could learn from pharmacies are really good at risk management by the side of the nicer their business idea with fly. You know we've had fly. She's and we've had drought issues. And then you've got market challenges commodity across movements. The dynamics the reality is farmers dealing with risk management. All the time and so actually that pretty well feisty with the likes of a of a covid. Ab they're always seeking to make as much as i can advance of like ideally shopper giants to fade supply or the conditions. Costareports guy tight. We have long term agreements with all of them and so that gives them certainty so that for the milken and visibility like visually allows them to plan. So that's a very good app ananad's it's constantly saint's shaking. What i do inside is a lot of resilience there. And there's a lot of risk mitigation. Which which i think santa in good stead for these sorts of circumstances. Side while his new curveball. They used to. You're not getting curve balls. I think and take a long soon view. So that's the thing. Most farmers are in it for the laws. Frankly it's created it. Site in hacker is sometimes. You can chop and change what you do in your working. Life marched famous typically A taking a long-term view and so that allows adults. I step back. I think from the bounce inside tabby sees a bounce. Let's get a dui literal run this easy to say a little on gossamer on a nice ashes long term aspirations but y since he's the sashes in coffee from long like on This is a big change direction about work. Exactly it's it's what we do. It's not my hand meter sprint right. It's a long marathon sunday when we have opportunity we can pick up the pace and make this things. But when there's a bumps or really steep ahead of us will bill slow down. We'll get together. We'll get close out. You know we'll improvise. Innovate because know what we working for. You know we wanna leave something better at the end you know leave. I industry in a better place on what we found it. And and i guess when you have the sort of long vision and clarity. What you're doing then. It's just a bump. I'm always river in refreshes a ninety eight year old business insider. I'll be really honest about the off. And then i'll hang on here for ninety days it's it's here. Upsilon ally remember using law with some of alpine infamous country. Ninety eight years. If you street. We'll get through these and does actually just remind yourself. ns unique to rain doesn't matter if we'd only had two five the as three but It does lynch you step back and type snake. I some which perspective it's gonna be a real talent to sashes example. I think we use that. We did a lot of sprinting for a long time. Which is not easy when you're running a marathon Was just the length that we had to put the foot down. But we'll get there. It's a marathon waves. And when you put it in language think you're automatically a little more comfortable doesn't shine some of the realities of what you're dealing but you you just get it. In perspective. neuron works released as the first thing. You know the industry around each other. You realize you know the only one you realize you're together and that usual saints of we'll find a way through these to give always helps asked you. I think he everett body community and across just society. That was one of the really positive out. Tixx was. I think a lot of storage the app tron to look out for each other since deng you know. It will bring people's well-being and mental health how tracking you know. There's a silver lining so it has allowed us to once you make sure that everybody's guy and they will deal with the reality stuff afterwards so maybe to ask your of what's been the biggest bean for riverina milking twenty twenty in your opinion these win. Look i think the biggest win. I think we've touched on degrade. Well well first and foremost if i step back and i think this is a number. One priority is the health and safety tate and making sure that our by that on may dis. There was significant questions. I think for a lot of us we hang onto staff can we. Everyone employed and we had to ring fence outlet. We've got science melbourne and obviously we had to make sure that rawls that everyone was silent healthy tonight. We've can't everybody on board. We've avoided any sort of positive to -tations of material health impacts may ability. Patrick extract saves. So that's that's a wing in the context at always al non-negotiables but in the context of what we will just pray through. Its biggest weakness is well seismically that we have yet. But we're willing to these with a fob state. The event and fall comfortably work allies through it. So that's i'd sign answer the biggest win and most important. I think we've touched on used. Win is feeling part of this community and bang out the specialty coffee community. I think and being out apps help a little bit low. No i connect with gain. It's funny tons of crosses that you can into even more closely with partners in the industry and things are flying you getting on with it and touching base. It's winning now. Your relationships a strong when when things inaugural well and i think probably know be part of that is a guess realizing that like these podcasts. In the khanate timothy there was a lot of positive goodwill came out. Why and we try to generate his flashes. We coon out onto partners in the industry as well. And i'm feel really good at different times. Los estimates in that through the through the challenging periods that we were gonna work together saw without apply. None of that was happy. Reenact same still raise shy and we feel more connected and supported than with with an industry that we we want to and we designed be pot of and we think we ought. So that's that's been really hot stricly. Dc shift in the way that riverina milk will operate in the future. Like some things that come out of this year. Do you think they're going to continue to evolve into next year. A high level some of the high level themes out of the industry in it's pretty beneficial for us. I think because there's by not support local Were hundred percent. Australian irons No i think a lot of those same staples atkinson manufacturing in australia. Sovereign manufactured is themes of becoming so we as something there is reminding us that assets valued more than ever and that's automatic and story that we we should tell so that's nice and even the local riverina community frankly by rallied round out business and local businesses in the river for carpet and that and that was noticeable Things i think we have the same so we want to continue. I guess and to remind people stay really connected with local communities because is it helps you in bad times. Frankly it's going to be recruiting croissants as well. i'm certainly that is purely risk. Mitigation and risk aversion. We've learned a lot through these prices and we've also learned a lot about resilience and support about people you go into these things knowing. Your teams are really important washing them. Step out al teams reacted really quickly to to carve it everything we asked of them in terms of we had some very greasy significant changes to how we operate created in the pace of social distancing hygiene protocols no splitting shifts structures for manufacturing and distribution businesses collected from wise up writing as well. It seems really stepped up big time and there was never a these. What are we doing this for was yet again and agriculture and again it just reminds you if you bring people into the low cost them you take the long journey ninety nine point nine in a time a christian for europe. This is not necessarily to not necessarily to do that much deep into your team because you think you're greatly because you always put team had a few and you talk about them but this one is more for you as ceo of the company. How did this crisis change you or did it. Did they change you the way you run the company differently. Do you think that this year has made an impact for you. Have you sort of behave. And maybe if there's any of these changes if you can share them with us that'd be nice looking figure has astronaut. Suspect you've had some learnings as well it kind of forces you. When when this genuine crosses an uncertainty people look too late as for direction and certainty off got a very supportive board ladyship team. I think we had some very useful compensations variably all that it was important to be calm when it's really important to communicate a lot the way we communicate pretty well i think generally across sam visas snap films customers but we ran that up shoes and so that was a big learning for me to keep everybody informed as possible and to basically up to communication as possible because everybody reacts differently in these environments and when this genuine anxiety around personal lives plumbing outlooks since outlooks around around everybody. Big learning may was getting as close as possible and communicating as often as possible and also getting feedback as much as possible and inevitably that students in good stead on again off their worst. Well and across this imagine how it works More it'll be So that was a huge learning resilience. This was a marathon with a lot. Sprints that saints environments in it. You you you encourage by. I guess what you people do. And how they reacted. I'm reacting group play back through the process and it also i think in my mind it reminds you to just step back. What's important because a lot of the smallest south starts to lose a lot of relevance when they be coming to lie and that's always a good lesson in business the smallest office really small for raising and it's not that important things like you. Team partners irradiation ships with the apartments and your communication and your honorable duration role. That is a lead. remind you to get. Yeah that's that's the stuff that matters and then everybody else will walk out. Offense minyard's fear. Sarah somebody'll communication and your say but yeah absolutely. I mean i love to add to that. Probably look less micromanagement than ever before and i'm excited for the next year to actually do less of what's urgent and important. I rather just deal with what's important but long-term vision why we do what we do. Focus more now on the rise rather than how Which you know as you said in order to do that. More communication more clarity continue being close to be the team's leadership and and obviously not only focus on war co job performance. But you know supporting a team to be to go to. This challenge is be there for them. Make sure the day mind is healthy. And they're happy and You know often. I'm sure that during the the did not have only conversation just about work but more. Hey how are you are you okay. And this is important and definitely looking into next the our kind of personally. When i'll do more that i'm more being you know being human being caring about not only the work but you know what goes around the work because when people are happy the healthy they feel good they of course they'll have a better performance of the work as well so it's all in a way connected so my my vision on that has of brought up a little bit more than Than before so yeah. I think look. It's i think what we're really noticed over the last year Is that is that the people that are already good leaders stepped up again like it is situated that those who answer good leaders it showcase that as well so situated that so you seem quite a big divide between the great leaders and the not so good leaders this year because when things are going well anyone can can get away with the way the lead. But i think that's been really interesting to see that happen and to me is just the importance of really connecting the communities. Which by you've done soy so well the important think partnerships again to be A big priority for companies moving forward in how can you collaborate through partnerships. I think that's the way the business future in the next sort of five years of sarin maybe even longer so talking about a future. What does the huge future hold for river milk. That's christian There's lots of unity in this louis. Lots of things that we sort of looked at. But we're bast little on hold true and the minute i saw. I guess sounded the begin. Alaska monthly accent. There's a limit of applause again with the recent challenges in sydney. So some parking some of that. I guess I wouldn't sign these as usual. But i think we've got a lot of ron y in doing what we do better and well and more extensively so we we fish coffee. We think this loss of opportunity to to do that. More extensively to partner develop new products. New markets nice sorts of things. We've got distribution businesses. Now that we aren't in melbourne sydney and aspirations growth is We see that as a really important part of our business now where we can extend from the supply law and all the way from farm all way to to specialty coffee partners or other partners. So that's a opponent difference and we love to shrine. Innovate along dog law. Including how he got how. We distributed how we manage sized businesses people writing nice visas assigned some be advocates for the next twelve months shooting in the world sales down a little bit. That's not quite the was quite nice to be caught at what we ought to be trying to so it's It's impressive me to sit here today. And listen to both view in see your connection and see such A lot of synchrony between as you say your values and the why you lead. It's quite impressive. And i think know your staff and the people that you work with a very privileged to have two great leaders. Let yourselves working with them And look your rob congratulations and what you've been able to achieve this year with the team. I'm pulling together. You know what is a crucial aspect of people's lives you know the the milk industry Your data fix the whole world. Right here on this jelly. Iran's involve with milk and to see how you're connecting that with coffee and making sure that their place for both of you that place where people connect in a meet up in society was a place that they can feel comfortable this year. And so thank you so much for making a difference. Rob an innocent beautiful to see what you've pulled together is a a great collaboration and working to say yeah well done. Thanks robe. yeah it's been pleasure talking to you and thank you for being part of this podcast. Youtube is pleasure. Thank you for having me on. Its loss as you. When you're dealing with the team and industry generally it's it's pretty collaborative. It's it's unusual. It's you can see any out why this is why we latest in specialty coffee globally. It's it's a unique and talented. Industries are very happy to be out in i. It's redrafted to this guys. On the next episode we speak about belief unlocking your talent focusing on what you can control funding clarity your strengths and what valley you bring in having disciplined mindset. Thank you very much for joining a conversation today. On the coffee man podcast. We would love to hear you thought stories and questions so please leave a comment on social media posts and continue the conversation. If you'd like to connect with sash and craig on a deeper level. Then please go to sasha cystic dot com to a u. haul craig johnson dot com. Remember to subscribe so you don't miss an episode would really appreciate it if you can leave a review on chiens. 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Risky Biz Soap Box: VMRay CEO Carsten Willems talks sandbox tech

Risky Business

33:31 min | 2 years ago

Risky Biz Soap Box: VMRay CEO Carsten Willems talks sandbox tech

"Everyone and welcome to another addition of the risky business. Soapbox podcast series. I'm Patrick Ray. This is not the regular risky business weekly show, the soapbox series of podcast, that round here on risky dot biz are wholly sponsored everyone you here in a soapbox. Dishing paid to be here. Now with that disclaimer out of the way, this is actually a really interesting conversation. Causton Willems is the co founder of VM Ray accompany. That makes well I don't know really what you'd say there isn't an incident response tool. Is it a detection, tool, or is it just a good, hyper visor by sandbox that you can use to do both of those things. And I'm going to say that, it's, it's the third VM. Ray is a company that makes a great hype vice based sandbox, and they replied that technology to both response and detection on the response side, you can throw samples at the cloud service, and it's not as. Manual reversing, but you're going to get a pretty good breakdown of, of what happens when that file does its thing now in an ideal world, you would have a team of malware reverses on stuff, pulling apart every single thing that looks shady, but this is not a perfect world. So that will never happen. So the original use case that cost in these team set out to solve was around automating Mel, wear reversing, they built a hype visor base and box. That's very hard to bypass, and you can run your standard build on that hyper visor throw Bhandari's documents at it, and see what blows up that's really the primary use case, he, but there is a second use case, which is detection, VM. Ray can give you pretty decent risk scoring on samples and they've entered into a few arrangements with other vendors to provide that extra level of detection, I'd never met kosten before we prepared this podcast. But again, as you hear it's safe to say we hit it off this podcast, basically turned into kosten telling his story, the story of wavy Emory came. I'm from and where he wants it to go and funnily enough, we both wound up, throwing like a Fabisch shied at FireEye for its old sandbox tech. And I just want to say like FireEye isn't just a sandbox detection company anymore. So it is slightly outdated shade. They're not a sponsor anything but I know some of the people who work there and they're super smart. They're doing super useful stuff. And I just don't wanna leave the impression that we think that title rubbish than not. But yet their original sandbox product that, powered the early period, I hype train. Yeah, that sandbox in my view didn't live up to its marketing, so you'll hear cast an eye joking around about that in this podcast. Anyway, I suppose drop you into the interview here. We're constant talks about research and development. He was doing as a university student about fifteen years ago. VM Ray evolved from academic word he and others did back in the day. Oh, I'll mention now too. If you want to trial, VM Ray, you can it's free to trial. There's a link in the post of this podcast, or just Google VM right, free. Trial. But yeah, his Causton talking about one of his early unique projects, which was sandbox. I think it was one of the first cent box at all, though, in two thousand five or two thousand six as part of my diploma. These I was working on some new approaches how we could counter the problem that we had at that time was Melvin which today are still the same. So Mel actors the meat of the thousands used a lot of defensive measures to, to evade antivirus products. So they use a lot of obvious -cation, and corruption and so many tricks to, to counter static analysis to make it very hard, at least to make it very time consuming to analyze new male air, so that took more time onto the signature comes up and on the for. So we're working on some automative to or made it tools, which can detect Melba without the signature. And I think the term sandbox was not not existent at that. Point in time. There was one economic sandbox called noobs analyzer, and it was also one commercial product named Norman normalize or something. But they were both based on an emulation technology, which is super slow and only works to some extent in modern world. So I, I built so-called hooking based sandbox project named CW sandbox, which are actually, my initials like casting victims and during during that work. I got in contact with some researchers in the United States, and Florida namely, Eric sites from from sunbed software, and he helped me with some very nasty male, Colonel route kids because I had not much experienced was gonna Northcott's at that point in time and you helped me with that. And when I finished, my beezus heat invited me to come to, to Las Vegas to Defcon and present my academic tool, and this is where my, my. Professional cyber-security, cure, really started, but it was a very early early pre predescessor. We said that of what we read us today, that makes a lot of sense. Right. So I guess from there. I mean this is the thing. Right. The fundamental premise of what you doing. Hasn't really changed. It just sounds like it's been a constant constant development, work to refine it and make it work better and give it more and get more meaningful output from the automation around the analysis. I mean is that is that a fair assessment obsolete? Absolutely. So it's more or less like an evolution so building better technologies. But to be fair. I mean, twelve years ago when when everybody was using this hooking based sandbox that was good technology at that point in time, because the attackers were not aware of, of this technology and the attackers were not prepared for this technology nowadays. Where everybody uses some form of, of sandbox ING you need other things other approaches because nearly. Every everything where file see nowadays tries to, to identify. Hey running inside some security solution running somewhere in a research lab somewhere in the lap of an antivirus company, and they actively try to detect security, products and detected. They just don't do anything or do some destructive work or whatever. So. Remember cost circa, I don't know. Maybe ten years ago, like maybe a little bit less than that. Fire is came out this amazing thing. Right. Because if you using it could catch all sorts of stuff, because it was near real time sandbox on the gateway a mile proxy falls, whatever. Right. You could plummet through just to do all sorts of detections, and it was fantastic. When only fifty people using it, right? People didn't bypass it. And I think, you know, I saw a bunch of researches came up and basically, came along and kick the crap out of it, and very soon it wasn't the panacea that it was prior not to say that fire eye out doing some pretty useful stuff these days. But that really was how this worked out wasn't it's like, hey, we'll do this basic sandbox analysis, and we're gonna find all this stuff that other tools. Don't find and that was on the useful until people started evading, absolutely absolutely. So there's a funny story about a fire I because when I did my thesis and I was working on that sandbox project. I think FireEye already existed. But they didn't have that sandbox commercial product and the founders visited us at the university. I think it was Manheim and unfortunately, I was not there at this particular day, but some of my colleagues, and we were brainstorming after that and fire at the guys told us, well, let's put a sandbox into an appliance and skin every incoming Email. And I said, well, this stupid idea that won't work. Of course, it worked very, very well and fire. I, I mean, they actually developed the the whole market and ten years or twelve years ago when when we wanted to sell products. It was the first step was always to explain. What is boxing? Why do we do that? Why does it help nowadays? Everybody. I'm talking to understand it. So I usually start my pitches. Well, we're like fire. Right. But just the better technology or just something that works today and no longer in the past. I mean that's. A lot of the far-right people. Listen to this. Kicking the gone on, it's absolutely exit. Of course, FireEye as awesome products, and what fire is, is more and more is not focusing on the sandbox, but they have all these services. I mean, that's what I that's what I meant earlier. Which is like, but that was, what got them Narin, right? Like without that product, they never really would have got where they are today, and they've had their time in the wilderness, and they seem to have found their backs down. They back sir weld on cost. But just thinking about this, right. Like an I'm glad I'm glad you're telling some anecdotes about IRA because they were the one big really big commercial sandbox play, but your approach is always kind of been different. Now I know you are EM your tack kinda, right? And that's a part of your business. But really the primary use case for VM Ray is much more for incident, responders Samal, where analysts for people who work at IV vendors even to actually use this as an analysis tool. That's quite polished. I mean that's always been the play. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. So we started at the started as point product just as a standalone solution, somewhere being used somewhere in the lab by an antivirus winder by some, some law enforcement agency, which really have to have the time to invest into specific cases into specific threats and today, I mean, the sets shifted a bit because since we had been so effective, and detecting zero day or targeted male. That, that can't be detected with some outdated boxing technologies. We have been pulled into into other use cases. So we started point product when a nowadays, a lot of our customers are using as part of the Email security web security just on top of their existing other security suite. Because we Ray can come on can or comment. We do not replace an Email security solution. We don't replace execute solution, but, but augment existing products. I'm curious about that is that just like you can turn it into a dumb like I'm. Shadiness scoring box just some blackbox Heathrow file at it, and it spits out risk rating. Is that is that how? Absolutely. So we don't do, for example, don't do anti spam, and we don't do social engineering, phishing attacks and stuff like that. So this is not what, what would be Emory can protect you against, but one, one thing, and this is Mel VERA that very, very well. And usually replace that, that I mean, every security solution somehow comes with advanced threat detection, which is a fancy name for sandbox seeing. But all of them are nearly all of them just do the same kind of tech as, as we have been doing ten years ago. So for them it's just one Peter out of many, but for us, it's what we have where we have the expertise at focused on. And usually just replaced that advanced threat detection feature of the other solutions and don't replace the whole product. Now, we should probably start talking right now about your actual sandbox because as your pines to point out your tech, you can say the debate far more advanced than others on the market. Fact, you make some pretty bold claims. One of them is that it's impossible to evade where and it's funny, right? Because I can see is like the marketing blog posts on your website, that say it's impossible to evade, and then I can see the blog posts that like the engineers have written, which which say that it's very difficult to evade. But just talk about the tech anyway, like, because it does sound like it. He's a cut above the typical crap you're gonna find in the run of the mill security appliance on your on your gateway. I address this, this marketing versus reality. I mean I have been academe of for, for solar cells, so many years and usually it's, it's stupid to claim one hundred percent detection rate zero percents false positives, impossibly stupid. But unfortunately everybody's doing that. So. I'm not criticizing you like I'm not really -culing you on the podcast for doing this. I'm just having a polite chuckle with year because you're technically minded founder, who gets the gag but tell me tell me about this and box, like, what, what is it? That makes it different. Is it a hyper visor by Sam box. Is it a micro virtual is amber? Like what, what makes it different? Yeah. So I would like to go once that back because when we started working on the technology of with we I mean my co-founder food and myself, it wasn't the last years of at the university, and we were playing around with, with hyper wiser because we just laugh this tack we love to assemble coating and very low level stuff. Kidding go on. Sorry. So we'll play with visors. And then we said, okay, let's, let's do something meaningful. Let's do something where we have both expertise on that this fun. And that maybe some some good starting point for commercial product after after our time. So we took a look at the sandbox landscape because this is what we had been doing most of most of our time before. So I built present box and one other sandbox my co-founder. He created a mobile sandbox for, for windows mobile, which, unfortunately, died out, somehow as an operating system and contributed. Lots to some other academic sandbox. We been doing that for so many years, and the two main issues of the two main weaknesses of sandbox in, in the middle of two thousand eight the to slow. Yeah. They can't cope with that massive amount of emails data on with awe. So for that reason sent boxing is used. But usually you try everything to avoid using your sandbox. It takes two minutes of three minutes or five minutes or sometimes even ten minutes just to analyze one particular file. So what Wenders usually do is they have a filter triaging process where I use antivirus, then they used some heuristic, and they use magic and only if they are incapable of the acting or identifying a male with in seconds, they put it into the very, very slow sandbox, so performance and speed was one issue. And the other issue is just what, what you what you mentioned earlier, so Melvin more and more is able to detect and identify sandbox ING at the sandbox. So we tried to address these two things I create an invisible sandbox and second create something really fast and to that end we build our own hyper provider, which enabled us to, to debate a male wear in arbitrary systems. Actually, our customers can use their own systems, their own golden images and debate mail where inside. So it really looks like. So you can you can just spin this up spin up, SA build on top of this. Usually it's always dedicated. Dedicated server indicated hardware, but you can load your images your your system in women's into it. Yeah. That's just the image that you would be pushing out to a regular workstation you spin that up on some dedicated hardware. Correct. Correct. Absolutely. So it's. Identical to the systems that you want to protect, and we are, then we can scan from the hyper weather. We do some virtual memory, introspection BMI, which is nothing new, but we do. It's completely from the hyper wider, so we don't have to change anything. We don't have to install any software in the donation environment. And that is, usually how it's done ASO every other sandbox uses easer emulator, which is awesome in in theory on academics. But in practice it's way way way too slow. So you have to do a lot of shortcuts and a lot of things to improve performance, which on the other hand, makes you losing his ability into what the Malveaux is doing, or, and that is what most sandboxes make take a real computer. But you have to patch that computer in order to become able to see what the Melva is doing now. So you have to install your own software in the same system where the Melva has running, and that makes it very easy to fingerprint, very easy to detect and our. Approach is completely working on the outside of a better machine. So we can from the hyper weather, and we not only scan we can also automate everything from the outside. So from the hyper weather, we are able to, to click on buttons to report the system too fast for what time to everything to do everything that usually trying to be somehow automated with, with every sandbox, but we can do it from the outside. So it really looks like there is someone using the computer and there's no, there's no evidence for, for that you're running inside monitored environment. Yeah. Yeah. I mean this this, this is an approach that makes an awful lot of sense. And what I find interesting about what you've done, and I kind of luted to this earlier is that the whole business that you built, Khanna hinges on this sandbox this virtual is environment and really users can use this for doing something like hi. We got a sample here. We're pretty sure it suspect maybe it's just throw at something before. We fully are it to see exactly what it's trying to do. So you can get like that verbose output from the or you can just put it in like, you know, give me a risk score between zero Tatan and automate that into your, you know, your mouth guy way or whatever, like, that's it, it's just funny that you've applied this to both ends of the spectrum instead of trying to do what fire I did back in the day and just turning this into a blinky lot box. That would just sit there. Block or allow. Right. Why is it that you didn't try to go for that market because it is a lucrative one? So I think from from an aspect of auto commercial compare Commissioner base, always the detection, use case is much more important, because this is really can create revenue, and we can contract more and smaller customers and grow your company. But on the other hand, I'm we're not we're not doing VM Ray just just just to commercial successful but we doing it because we, we have to do it, right. So we are really into that tack, and it's fascinating. And it makes our day if we if we can analyze Mel there, if we can attack the mail, which, which is which is effect of that analysis that, that no one else can. So we really love going into we laugh, providing tools that can be used by, by very skilled security experts as well as junior people, very doesn't it like if you're in this position where you're creating. A tool. It's very good at doing analysis like by proving that tool. You're going to improve detection technology is just as a result of that I it makes sense, and I guess, having a community around the product as well. That's always helpful absolutely, though. So, and that is the first part detections the second part, but as you said it, I don't know very much the current fire out put, but. I know some other sandbox as well. And, and very often they abstract away all the details, which is good. Which is good for some use cases, which is good for some people. But we went the different roads. So we try to provide the analysis results at various different layers. So we just for some people who just provide the verdict. It's bad. It's not bad for some people. We provide a very high level report for the managers of for the for the junior people. But if you are an expert if you have the need, or actually time to go deep dive into Melva you can click into a report, you can go deeper and deeper and deeper. And just just as an example, you can click on a button and the, the memory dump from, from, from the mail itself is exported, and we provide several memory dumps and one memory dump usually is the unpacked, the decrypted version of the mail there. So he can export it and loaded into either your this assembler, and then we have a plot in which, entertains the whole Ida database at means for. For every single up few skates call. We give you okay at this point in time, the Melva called this, it was using this permits. So it's really safes. You so much time in when, when you want to do reverse engineer, so forth. So. Yeah. I think the analysis part of commercial commercial base. It's, it's a pretty small and narrow market. The incident response market. However, it's it helps us improving. Our technology and it all helps also telling people about about our technology and very often we start with the incident response team. And then later on actually it's that we push, but they the customers pulling us telling us give us more solution gives us a solution that we can use for emails accuser solution canoes for web security, but usually it starts with incident response. Now, look at it makes a lot of sense, right? It's just I'm not I'm not used to seeing companies. Wind up into text through a circuitous route through an analysis tool used by people but I love it. This is cool. But I guess, I guess one question I have is, who are you actual customers on the detection side at I because I know you were doing REM deals, OEM deals with other vendors, we wanna bought your tech to their tech or you selling direct to enterprises. Well, it's all of it. So we have a new vendors, we have a Caspi vendor. We have an Email account Email security vendor, who you using our tech inside. We have also some, some vendors with also sophisticated analysis tools, which use our tech internally. Right. So for generating intelligence, for example, which they sell or use with their own products. On the other hand since a few weeks, we also have released our, our Email Email integration tool. So it's actually an MTA that you can run a side of your existing image security solution, and it's cans, every incoming image, and we have a few customers for that already. But it's just a new. Product has just been released heading this set. The point that, you know, your analysis software was available like I mean, I think that was only as a cloud service wasn't. I mean, is this are you doing this all in cloud infrastructure? Or is it a mix of on Prem and cloud? It's always a mix mixture. So I would say that the world for of Yemenis is pretty simple. So every US customers using cloud and non US customer is using or a non cloud. So that's an interesting, interesting. Isn't that right? I mean, there is some of course, there are some exceptions like law enforcement and so on the forest where even your customers and use the on Prem solution. And there are some exceptions in the your Europe and Asia as well. Where customers use our cloud services. But, but still, I think Europe is very, very conservative in terms of cloud adoption for security products, compared to the US, and we recently start going into Middle East market and their situation. It's even worse. In terms of adopting cloud services, so well, especially when the underlying infrastructure is controlled by American companies like I kind of understand that one which helps us at the German company. So usually when we talked to American customers, we position ourselves as American company, and we talked to non-american put US German company. That's true. Bag. I get it. That makes sense. Look, what's the plan here? Right. Because you've been gone. You're not this for awhile. I understand, you know, you raised some money doing that proper startup trajectory. And there's you know what's the objective here is to become a, a huge provider of our EM highly accurate malware detection, to companies that have huge enterprise us bases. Is your idea to try to elbow you into that market yourselves? Like, what what's the what's the plan? What's the end game for them, right? Where do you want it to be in another fees? Yeah. I mean we always have to have to trade off we have to balance this out that we on the one hand wants to focus on where we are very good ads, and where do the work that really enjoy. But on the other hand, of course, grow the company and provides value to customers and generate revenues, which helps us growing the company and building, cool, new technology. So we have OEM customers, we have enterprise customers, and I like that mix. Yeah, I like talking to people, which really know reverse engineering, which really know about threats which no more about current Melvin. We do of course because we're building tools. Right. We're not we're not really working on sitting there like trying to pop sater's in like. Earn the earn operators workstations and get this Oskar. No. We will be laughed building technology. We love if people get protected biotechnology. So definitely we won't become a security suite vendor. So we do not want to build out or product horizontally, by, by adding all these features that everybody else has, yeah, they don't eat any rocket science to anti-spam. I mean things can be done in a smart way. Some things can be done in an easy way, which are very often good enough. And that is not our. We don't want to be good enough. We want to be very good in what we do. And so we restrict to where we have the expertise where we have the skills where we have the people and what we actually enjoy. And this is the tactic mail. They're analyzing there, who your typical end-uses when I signed the end of the people, the organizations that this technology is protecting on the detection. I'd like what categories did I tend to fall into 'cause I imagine VM, a tick, the box option for some your OEM's like who's taking? The box. The is the paranoids out there people in very heavy security environments. Or is it just people who realize, hi this? This thing is actually finding stuff that other things missing and we've done the cost benefit analysis, and we want to use this 'cause I mean really like this stuff is pretty good at against buy stuff. Right. So I would think like the defense industrial base would be applies where you do really. Well, that's just my gut feeling. So actually, we are more or less vertical gnostic. So if the company is big enough to have their own cert- Ceasar, or if they are big enough to, to, to buy, multiple security solutions for one purpose than this didn't let someone who uses art technologies folks in the banking sector and the finance sector, very often our customers, at least in the incident response team that use multiple sandbox products. So they are very often using open-source sandbox cuckoo. And then they have one commercial sandbox. And then they often have a second commercials on FOX. So sometimes it's for legacy reasons. Sometimes it's because they don't trust just putting their accent one basket different reasons. Another time, it's just going to be that someone who works. There is used to using tool. I right. And then the other team other part of the team over there. Selling giant wanna use VM? Rick. Yeah, we'll have one German customer one very, very, very, very large germ customer. And it took me four years forty eight months between pitching them and they bought solutions. Guy, there was a guy who invested so much time into their former sandbox project by customizing and integrating it. And so the and everybody knew it's doesn't didn't provide the detection detection rate that the looking for, but the invested so much time and that guy was so hooked on this product and eventually, he left the company's nobody wants to, to, to deal with the Massey. Leftover alive. Live nation. Basically audacity, I used to use the open source, crappy, or acidy audio editor, and then there was some updates to, like, Apple's core audio drivers that meant that. I couldn't use some like apple libraries through acidy anymore. So I had to change tools to audition, which, of course I bitched and moaned about it. But after about two weeks, I'd sliced about an hour out of my work week because much better tolls. Yeah. It's funny how that how that works, but I guess I was just wondering, more on the detection side. I mean on the incident respond and forensic side like it's pretty clear. The buyers if this got Bay, I just wanted to who the people are who are using this to augment detection. So I don't know if this is a general definition, or just one by Gartner. But there are these type a organizations Gutna says it's twenty around twenty percent of all the large enterprises. And these type a organizations we care about security because cuties mission critical for them like the finance sector could. Infrastructure military, for example, and those are companies are willing to spend some additional money for getting the best security, they can get on the market. And this at least for our direct business. These other customers that we, we addressing in terms of OEM, and some other forms of technology integrations into other security products, of course, are also addressing the regular enterprise, or even the small and medium businesses, but for direct sales and where we have direct contact, and where we, we also as a company and as people working company benefit, a lot from this interaction, this very close into action with these, these organizations which really care about security need the best product that can get no matter if additional money, I have this feeling that the market is going to be really interesting in the next decade. Right. Because we're already seeing this sort of hyper specialization like companies like yours companies that. Spring up just doing really really specific things quite well. And I do sit a one day, if you know, in the future, it really is going to be you're going to tick tick, the box. I mean we've already seen it right. Like in the IV market. You used to run multiple engines on your service back in the day. Right. That was how you handle the problem, you tick, which engines, you wanted to run and I can kind of see as moving back to that. But more on a distributed sort of cloud model. I mean, what, what do you think of that idea? Yes, I totally agree. If I were seasonal. I would hate I would hate this ecosystem of so when I go to the conference for some seven hundred fifty security vendors so how can we pick? How can we decide how can we really find out what is the right thing for us? Yes. If, if we need or if we want to use best of breed, we will have to install twenty thirty different security products. How can you manage that right? So what they usually do is trading off efficiency versus manageability or something like this, and having a model like you just indicate it just I by the platform for one campany, and then I can choose between different technologies and just very, very easy to just activate them. So I don't have to deal with them on a commercial based on a legal base employment base. I think that will be awesome. I, I don't know if that will work. I'm not very good at predicting the future as I indicated. That would be very good. Okay. Well cost him Williams is been a real pleasure to talk about Vam Ryan talk tech with you about all of this. It's been a real. It's been really interesting. Actually watching your company grow, and develop Arvid loss few years, and I'll, I'll certainly keeping an eye on what you're doing next. It's been a lot of fun. Thanks again. Thanks, patrick. Very good as well. And I really love your show and oriental you earlier. That's it has a big impact because so many people come to me and say, well, I heard you on risky business and beginning. I said what where? Yeah. Actually, my best friend, I had no clue when I was talking about risk businesses that, yes, I've listened to the week for the really cool. Thanks. That was caused him. Willems VM, right there. And if you wanna see how VM right works how well it works. I just registered for a free account. Now, throw some curly samples. You've got at it. They cite very good at this stuff. But the proof is always in the pudding. So why not give it a guy yourself and make up your own mind that is it for this edition of the soapbox podcast? And yeah we've posted to these in the last couple of weeks. That's just how the shed your workout none for few weeks now. It's, it's going to slow down a little bit on the sponsored content front. So. Yeah, that's it for this one and all be back in the regular weekly show next week. But until then I've been Patrick right? Thanks for listening.

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How Can A Life Coach Help in Traumatic Brain Injury Recovery?

The Recovering Brain

22:56 min | 2 years ago

How Can A Life Coach Help in Traumatic Brain Injury Recovery?

"Hi, I'm Dr Dan Gardner. And I talk about traumatic brain injury recovery today. I'm pleased to be talking with certified life coach. Brianna Causton, welcome brianna, traumatic brain injury recovery. Thanks for having me. What is a life coach and tell me a little about your background? So my role as a life, coach is to help optimize, positively, helping individuals made their personals system, does when using cognitive strategies habits that they to change. No, we kind of create a format to do that together have limited my work to strictly TV ice. Reviver 's I find great joy in that in its county my area. I've been in this field for twelve years, and I've learned that there aren't a lot of TV. I live coaches out there. So being in this field, it's really unique and privileged because it's so limited though, at what stage of recovery do step in and start working with a brain injury survivor, and his or her family. Most of the time when I see he will they've already gone through a rehab facility, some of them have been done in Hong through lake cassock, Alina, or even hidden valley ranch. Right. Come in usually, it's years after that, and failing members are struggling or some of the strategies and tools. They initially learned, they're not utilizing anymore, and it's almost. It's like a last hope will are usually not working at this point. They're just kind of around their home. I looking at getting them out in the community and rookie on Lamont here placement, but the majority of the people, I see don't have the insurance benefits for an inpatient treatment or something. Mark complex. Qualified these people have gone through more intensive rehab, and we have programs. They've gone back home, they've either stalled or they've gone backwards. So you'll step into somebody's. Let's say flounder or their stock. They're not doing productive activities. They're not functioning, well, so you come in and wanna tell me a little about a case or two of how you intervene. When I threw seat so mine peak over on purpose plan of things that they really like in and working on how to get them into with app. So, for example, one individual, I work with was actually in the military. He has been since discharged, but he was not diagnosed with a brain injury until last year. But he'd had the effects of the brain injury for the last four. So when I met him I met him through a friend of mine, we did an assessment to kind of look at the areas that he wanted to improve and create a special plan. So we actually start our sessions together. We just take off running, and we just kind of worked ropunds. So in this particular case, what sort of goals, did you have for this survivor for it was more about socialization, you know, with PTSD, he had a lot of different triggers. There are also plenty of different environments that created stimuli for him. That was really. Scary and uncomfortable. So we worked on going on outings, just to be comfortable around ki. We would kind of position herself where he felt like there was an accident near the door or toward the back if he needed a minute, just kinda feel more comfortable, and then gradually we started to go into Marcotte at places that he is using strategies like using ear plugs for the noise and sunglasses for the light. It was really important for him because he also has children. He has two children in when you're with your family, and they want to interact in how time it was situation where dad can't come soon. Look to the night where he was able to actually go to an amusement park with his daughter, and that was really special. Oh, he must have felt so good about that accomplishment in it was nice to know that he was able to enjoy something with his family. He took some breaks while he was there. But there was a time where he wouldn't have been able to go your goal was to help him accomplish being public places where there was a crowd or noisy were in the past. He became so anxious. Wanted to avoid the most places were advocating for himself. A lot of times, what happens is when you're at rain. Andrew survivor, people seek for you, and they assumed that they now let you lead, even when it comes from the best place of being a spouse, or a girlfriend or a failing onward, but he had waves. And I think he found his voice through that experience as well. Let's only good. So how did you help can become more assertive? We did a lot of real plank. And then, because the life coaching relationship established his accountability is why there were situations that would put him in purposefully to save. He initiated a conversation would have homework assignments where he would have to initiate following up on something that he needed, whether it was medication or following up on a hobby. He really liked build model planes, so you can call stored see if your parts in stock here, initiating looking up that item you're not just waiting for someone to say pick this up for you in a while equal together to things that reduce as first of all you practice your role play different scenarios that he might encounter in real life. And also can give them assignments to take initiative to accomplish tasks. So how long did you work with this particular person? Privilege together for about six months with live coaching the way that I've designed by program is that I offer my sessions in packages, because here's to the consistency in follow through in order to implement what you're learning. If you have a life coach, they're not necessarily keeping, you and Feis that they're helping you find solutions. It's okay if you don't have a specific direction because your life coach or my job is alive coaches to help you find what area you want to improve your will help him. Discover or come up with some goals that are mutually agreed upon and help help them reach those goals and overcome obstacles of might be in the way. Yes. His a lot of times the goals aren't coming from the individual. It's a collaboration with their family as well on their immediate sport on a times with brain injury. People don't see the deficit, but the people around them do. So he may have some personal goals meant he wants to -ccomplish. But working with the failing to create the largest coal of everything they to look on. We were on together. No, I suppose it's quite a challenge when the family has goal in the patient is not aware of that particular deficit it, if the motivation doesn't come from inside it must be very hard to work on that goal. And a lot of times, there's a little give and take it would be unethical to just work on something without their permission, Ecorse, down of specifies names. There's more of the mutual understanding that we're going to try it and see how it goes, if he still feels that it's not for him or not really not for you. Because you know right away. The we're gonna move onto something else. That's just isn't the time brianna that's been my experience as well. If a person doesn't have an internal motivation is nothing. I can say or do persuade or nag or push to make them. Do they have to be ready? The two areas that you worked on with this particular person for helping him be more comfortable in public settings and also helping them speak up. They more certain and take more initiative, and it took about six months to get to the place where you and he both wanted to be. Yes. Did he make the decision to stop? Or did you was a mutual decision? How did that work? What I've learned with five coaching is that it's not long term life coaching kind of the dresses that you'd like to work on with some follow up. It's not like a month's law. But I worked the center for neuro skills in how individuals were there for years, and, and that was where they were. But with my genius really kind of coming in there addressing the deficits and then letting you resume your normal activities. Good. Well, so is there a range of time that usually work with seventy you mentioned this case, six months, is it, what's the least of what's the most work with patients? One individualism aren't such incident, mindful happen. I've seen some lime is three months, which is just decided to bring him, they added more sessions because they felt like he wanted some more support. How do you determine the that the patients made sufficient gains are going to be maintained after you stop treating the patient monitor consistency, also progress together? I do a lot of graphing, and I tried a lot of like data feel like doing something that they've already mastered starting to want it. That's only look at what other areas we could. Explore his time is valuable in knowing that they only have a limited amount of sessions. You really just want to make sure that you could address all of their concerns without falling into like that comfortable. I it's not really a rut, but it's that comfortable place where you're not moving forward and your. Just kind of in the same area. And one of my job is to get you out of your comfort zone and to address things that are uncomfortable in a comfortable way, women. But after you stop working with somebody, and they encounter a challenge in life, or roadblock. And there's some regression to the ever come back and call you for a tune up or how does that work? Experienced that yet. The Whitney leave it after session has ended down. They have my contact information that he all of their strategies all the materials that formulated come together in. It's in a binder so anything that they want to refer to they're more than welcome to. But then, you know always happy to hear from people and see how they're doing in this particular instance, because I am friends with the family through another friend. I hear about his progress, even though I don't see he's doing Irit lump. I'm glad to hear that. No. Do you always meet face to face or do video conferencing, or telephone call? Because I am. So I will travel. Wait are county to provide services to someone whether it's their home were via Skype your, the cases, who wanted to describe to me, just thinking of an another one this individuals younger, he was actually injured from birth and he was born there were some technical problems. So the monitors in nice you key, y. And that created a long lasting injury. So even though he's in his thirties, he appears as hell, he hasn't aged asked navy like an adolescent, so there's more there are some different behaviors and different mannerisms that you would see that you wouldn't Armley seem someone his age to what sorta problems, did you focus on your work together. Tantamount. Really big one. He had a really difficult time earning. No. When the family would let no he couldn't have something where if he was out in the community, and he wanted something very impulsive. And that almost deterred further outings, with the family, they decided they couldn't handle that the heave. They just didn't want it to company or so we started shopping and doing little outings, just kind of one on one. There was the goal for a timeframe to stay out. I'm so the first Goebbels-like half-hour zip. Go ahead power. Let's try to you just kinda gradually built, but there is also a behavior modification program that we put in place where there was a reward system that he earned something. He enjoyed from his family for participating in a positive way these other activities really seem to. So he was rewarded for good behavior yesterday. Now, let's say you're out with many started to have a temper tantrum. How did you intervene? We have phrase there is a word and they'll even limited that to a gesture, because he felt Lenk, you know, for out of the community, people are gonna catch onto the facts, you know, there was never any. Labeling or any badges. You know, I just think anyone else would look 'cause I don't wanna fitted minute session where I'm drawing attention to him where his meets you're trying to avoid publicly shaming absolutely differ. Trying to make someone feel better cleaning off their philosophy with people as not deleted doing right with him. We've a take a few minutes. And we would go back to the car. We find someplace off to the side just to kind of gather. And when I noticed with him is that when he would get really frustrated he would want water. And so we started bringing a lot of water. And when he felt nervous or he felt anxious he would take a sip water and that seemed to help him better good. So he considering grew reconstitute and then get back on track. So there was a gesture that said any let's, let's take a break in regroup here. Great. And how did you know where you were done, working with him was that are jecklin vindicator, like the frequency of outbursts, temper tantrums was below a certain level or hundred determine the end point? History things they were trying to decrease harmful behaviors because he was physically aggressive. So once they started to see some of those physical behaviors diminish, we also started to look at the thinly outcome goal was, this was a family atmosphere, naturally limited. So we knew coming into it that we didn't have a lot of time in have to work, a little faster, sometimes when I meet a client, they don't know how they're going to respond to it or the family kind of has been survey. Shins Wednesday start seeing the progress. They wanna keep going. But there are others where we know, Brian away coming in that we only have them for eight sessions and freely have to look at how you schedule those in how you spread out their time to make sure that they're getting the most of the can thing. The real challenge you ever doing videotaping, you talk about role playing, so I'm wondering how they remember what to say and how to deliver the message. Tapes. I really liked. That's gestion. I have taken photos, some for individuals who were working on Hatami say, like grip and pinch or any other home exercise program have missed of worksheets for me with detailed instructions. But then as they do the exercise. I take a photo of them doing it. So it's something something's dawning NAFO or some kind of hand modality for splitting. There's a photo of now with it on their hands. So they could connect that this is something they did do. And it's also referencing they're unsure pliant road, so they can have a manual or notebook with these documents to remind them out to do the particular activity. Yes. Every value a lot of those apps out there for communist training, any app that we're using it's also. Something that we install on their phone talent. So it's something that they can continue to work on to their again, Mabel to progress in how they did. We're ups in particular do find useful. So I'm really low narrow nation and I also really love you mustn't. They're great. They have a really fun way of doing challenging things, and I really just appreciate the feedback and the data that you can come at each little section of the test is only a few minutes, and it's monitored with a checker and access the answers, correct or incorrect. But it's playful enough read, on feel like it's work, and it's just short enough for if you're getting frustrated, we can try it again. We can come up with another. And activity that kind of reaches single brianna looking back on your work with brain injury survivors, tell me what some of the biggest challenges have been. I'd have to say through the individuals I mean who don't have a lot of resources in their area. Not just I have a, a social media page, where I promote my company and I just feel snacks about brain, and I received a call from an individual not in California, who really was kind of in a situation where there was nothing immediately around her related to bring injury or. Therapy. It was over a two hour drive to the nearest place because she is also the caregiver. Very about. There is no way for her to get there. And there is no one to come to her. So you kind of reached that point where. You wonder how much help you could give without resources in the nearby stranding eateries, it really increases the challenge. But is there something you could do remotely even by phone to coach a family member? Doing a little bit of coaching just come. She was at the plant because she had been struggling to find a system for so long. And then as a caregiver you do, get fatigued din. It is a lot of work, and it was more for her peace of mind to stop later on unleash into bent now. Now I think we've put a hot on cure providers. We often forget that they're neglected to refer do, so you're saying that, that, even if you're not physically able to meet with the patient, the family, you might be able to offer some assistance by phone. Yes. Yes, the actually emailed the surrounding areas for other resources in, they sound one in wanna say it was, like forty five minutes away. His she just happened to be an Oklahoma. It wasn't the brain injury day sociation, but it was a surrounding area where people would come together and do activities and sometimes even have special evidence, you know, like once or twice a week there, some type of social activities social support. You know, I think that's one of the hardest things you feel like you're alone. And then you can't find resources in it even harder. Let me you're able to establish support Stemple, even someone to talk to more than you. So what advice do you have for brain, injury, survivors and their families? How so for brain injury survivors, I would definitely advise looking up local resources, but also asking questions. There is a time where there's a lot of information coming at you and you're just kind of taking it all in, and it can be overwhelming. And then before you know it, it's confusing. The he didn't ask your question. We want to hear what you have to say. Medical professionals were going with your loved ones money here. Half to say, why are the expert on that person as the brain interesting? My bring you are the expert on yourself in the field. You have to hold anything back that your, your words matter. You're not being heard. We wanna hear from you who better than to tell us how to work with you. But what about any advice for, for healthcare traders work when brain injury survivors for healthcare trainers? I'd say. Really value your team, everybody that works with you has the same in regards to that individual or population. And it's, it's really to help them get manner. So if, if you have an idea about how to do something, you're not sure on it implemented, or maybe on, you're not sure how to implement some thinking you need that kind of constructive feedback. Definitely utilize your peers. That's it's amazing. How many ideas come to you when you're collaborating group versus when you're stuck on your home, and then you can't afford, neither tenure patient to school to, to take advantage of, of support and advice from others who've been through it as well as anything else, you want to add, I just wanted to say that? Doing this job past several so fulfilling. You don't realize how much it affects you personally hear stories about individuals who they got the call, then something happened to their month line, and then next month searches hospital visits medical appointments outpatient, therapies or other places like that. And it just seems like until it happens to you, you kind of miss the significance. And so for me, I didn't know that working in this population would prepare me for my own experience. My father had it is TV of team. And so then, you know, the tables were kind of turned because of hearing about someone story when they found out there other stroke. It's my father, my mom was literally sleeping the hospital around the clock. She had her notebook of everything. She wrote down from what the doctors would say to try to make it make sense later because you're exhausted, two new blew through this yourself, personally. I want to thank you for spending the time and effort to talk with me today. Please like subscribe and comment.

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