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"That were what what they told them to walk in a random path inside this big like open hall building without communicating with other people. So they I think there was two hundred people and they just asked them to walk randomly inside this big room and then they told a couple of the people exactly where to walk where they wanted them to go and then they just observed and in what they saw. was that the people that were told exactly where to walk. We're starting to be followed by the other. People that were just told the Rock randomly and in the end and they found that if only five percent of the people were walking confidently and looked like they knew where they were going. Ninety five percent of the rest of them would follow. I totally hardly believe it. It's you've seen this kind of a prank. Well I don't know if pranks the right word but like Oh if you just go out and shoot you know the mall or crowded crowded school or whatever and use like point at something and start looking like other people will start looking to you know everybody will keep looking Yup. Yeah yeah and I mean. I've I have done this on purpose before because like we parked in a parking garage for a concert a couple of weeks ago and we weren't exactly sure which direction we needed to go to get to where we we're going and I was like I was just following people like probably the same place. You know right definitely have done that before you can sure I used to teach this. This is not this exact thing but when I would do like social psychology units I remember showing this video. That was a really fun. Little Clip is. There's an old candid camera clip original candid camera black and white. It's one of their classic ones that they did where they'd have. They had this elevator. Set up right. They have the actor. The candid camera actor who goes in but nobody else on the elevator knows. It's an actor and this is back in the times where all men like men would wear hats. They suits in their hats on probably in the fifties or whatever and so this actor gets on and he stands the elevator or no sorry all of the other men in the elevator vader actors but just the one man who there's one man getting on the elevator. WHO's not an actor along hats on? So he gets in the elevator you know they got the cameras on them and all the other men like like take off their hats and you see the guy kind of look around. And he's like Ooh like questions and he takes his hat off and then they put their hats back on and then he kinda puts his hat back on and they do this like with several different people several different times and like and without fail people just know that the person was clearly like I don't understand what's happening here they would follow along. Yeah so some classic examples of herd mentality people that like rush to buy a certain stock doc because someone said it was like the two by. Do you remember the tickle me. ELMO CRAYOLA yes yeah right. Everyone's eating to get it and doot right right like fist for this wedding toy. Yeah and like fidget spinners how those are just saying so. You know it's totally I think. FIDGET spinners are kind of over now. Like well yeah. There's there's a million things especially when you talk about like things to buy I that we're totally influenced by everyone else thing of all of the Trinh's when we were kind of kids all these nineties fads they were really stupid like pogs. I remember pogs I totally. I had a whole collection of pot like this stupidest thing just like little cardboard plastic discs discs yup but like any collect them right cabbage patch. Dolls right yeah just recently. There was the hatch animals. Yeah Yeah Yeah ridiculous I mean black. Friday is a total total literally. A herd of people like cows being funneled into shoot dude absolutely. Yes so we clearly know what that is bystander apathy. Are you going to tell us why we do that. Yup later they WanNa know oh later yet. He's in me okay. So bystander apathy. That is when people in a crowd are less likely to help someone that needs help because other people are there and so I read this called the bystander effect. Yes yeah same thing and so the more people are more by. I standards are the less likely it is that one of them's going to help which you would think it would be the exact opposite so you think you feel safe when there's more people around there's more people to potentially help you know they're not gonNA help you so I remember the sort of a side story but whenever I live sort of in a house completely on its own I feel less like comfortable being alone but when I lived I had for a period of time. I had this tiny studio apartment in Chicago. You know in the midst of a whole bunch entre other fucking people in all these apartments and I even though I was in Chicago I was in a decent neighborhood. But you know not the best of the best neighborhoods Abra Hoods. I would like leave my windows open when I slept it not like and I didn't ever feel insecure there whatsoever because in my mind I was like. Oh there's so many people around yeah right like my neighbors would hear something or there's always people walking by like so nobody's he's GonNa try anything. Tell you the story that I've got coming up then is it about Kitty Genovese. It surely is. I realized that that so the opposite of what is true but I couldn't help but feel that way. That's how it makes you feel so the idea behind this as they believe that once and somebody has noticed that there's a situation right whatever. The situation is that they look to other people to determine if it's an emergency or not and so with other people are not reacting than the individuals not gonNa react because they think well must have emergency no one else sandy. So people feed off of each other and everyone's looking to the other person to see if if it's an emergency and no one's reacting. It's an emergency because they're all waiting for someone else to react right and so even if people recognize that what they're witnessing right there in that moment is an emergency or like they're witnessing a crime. They don't intervene because there's so many other people that they don't feel it's their personal responsibility to hell right. There's just there's plenty of other people there who could intervene so exactly so they were saying like if you're the only person present when something's happening you feel one hundred percent responsible for helping but if there are five other people there are you only only feel twenty percent responsible for helping and so then just nobody. Yeah it's called the diffusion of responsibility. Yeah so like the more people. There are the less US personally responsible. You feel right and I like I've I experienced this myself in. It might be something really stupid like you know seeing a piece of trash on the ground. It's been like if I'm been working in a restaurant if I'm the only person on that shift and I see a piece of trash on the ground I'm like Oh crap I got to pick that up. You know like that's on me. I gotta do that. They'll know I didn't do it or whatever but if there's like ten other servers on that night right it's so much easier to walk by it. Think about it when you're driving along along the highway and you see somebody pulled over trying to change a tire something now. I don't know that I'm always the best person to help out with that but I I've changed my own tire and know how to so so I know I do know how to do it for you. Totally drive by your like somebody. Somebody will help them. If I was driving on a small state like two lane highway that nobody you know there's hardly Carlini traffic and nobody else is gonNA come by. I Bet I would feel much more likely to stop and like just check and make sure like. Hey do you have what you need. Can I help. Do you need to make make a phone call versus if I'm on a big interstate and there's a ton of traffic you think like and well if they really need something somebody else's around I don't it's not on me so oh for people that like the labels and like what things are called the first thing that I talked about where you look to other people to see if it's an emergency is called pluralistic ignorance pluralistic ignorance like that clearly. Id Likely both my next Dan name and then the second one that we were talking about is the diffusion of responsibility where you just feel like somebody else to take care of that show. That's not nearly as fun as well so a good example of this bystander. Apathy is the story of Kitty Genovese. Oh poor kitty yeah so her. My name is Catherine Genovese. But she went back Kitty. She was a twenty eight year old woman who was murdered outside of her apartment in Queens New York in nineteen sixty four. She was followed owed from her vehicle. I believe or not I think she was just walking home. Yes coming home from a bar at two thirty in the morning because she had been bartending and working and shit closed and so it's two thirty in the morning. She was walking home and this guy followed her and she was trying to Hurry to get her door and he attacked her right. Outside of her apartment stabbed her fourteen times and the whole incident lasted around thirty minutes. So Oh it was originally reported that there were thirty eight people who were standing there ignoring her cries That was I think the Washington Post or somebody reported that and then they went back actually looked and there was only two. I says that they could really find. It was two thirty in the morning show on people like standing around but point is there were people that saw. Aw and heard that this was going on and chose not to respond so there was there was a neighbor who heard the attack and he yelled out of his window. Leave leave that girl alone and so the attacker left. Because he's scared him off right but then the the neighbor did not come out to see if she was okay. She crawled to the back of her apartment building to try to get in her back door or something and ten minutes later the attacker returned stabbed her some more raped her and I'm just robbed her. Oh my God yeah could you imagine like you're like Shirley somebody is going to hear me person yelled out. He's GonNa come chair on me and everything being. He has called the police for sure right so finally a neighbor eventually Screamed for help for someone to call. The police and the police came but she died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital too late. She got stabbed fourteen times and then stabbed more and then raped and then stabbed more exactly so really great the example and so it was around three fifty in the morning before the police were called. Oh my gosh. Yeah so so if the attack lasted thirty minutes and it started around two two thirty in the morning then we know she laid there for another almost hour before somebody finally saw and called. So it's not that somebody hadn't seen but saw in called right because people did see right they were just like somebody else will call right exactly. There's lots of people around. I don't have to do who it. Yeah so they. The police questioned the neighbors and everyone around and everyone said they thought it was just a domestic dispute and they wanted to stay out of of it or that there was drunk people fighting And so totally just apathetic to whatever it was that was going on. So that's kind of both of those keyed. You were happening right exactly. What was the ignorance one pluralistic ignorance pluralistic ignorance? Because they're all like nobody else is making a big deal out of every bar fight. Yeah and then diffusion responsibility because they're like somebody else somebody else to take your so the interesting thing about this is that the nine wouldn't want emergency call system and good Samaritan laws came out of this incident. I did not know that. Yeah so bovine one run. There wasn't nine one one before this. I know so before. This happened the only way to call. The police was to dial zero and get an operator operator would transfer. Yeah Yeah so And it was interesting the guy who killed her just to go on a tangent. Oh yeah there's a fascinating stuff with this guy. He had no remorse. Yeah like when a reporter asked him about it. He said his only regret was that he got caught and he actually was married. And had it had a job and was seemingly an upstanding guy but they estimate that he had killed. Three women raped eight and committed another thirties. Serial killer and racist yes. I don't remember the specifics. But there's this whole he had just recently died. I think and there was this he had been in jail. He died yeah he had just died. I think when I was teaching this topic..