35 Burst results for "Cassidy Hutchinson"
Mark Levin
Callers: Dems Need to Pay for Their January 6th Antics
"Yeah Larry just real quick The spirit of what you're saying about the Dems oh they're so kind that care so much but they can be evil And based on and you're asked question about what the Congress needs to do I think they need to make the Democrats pay for January 6th that whole lynching show trial they did All the televised crap where they had one sided no cross examination The Republicans need to make them pay for that What do you mean by make them pay You mean do it right back to the by the way Robert I don't know what show you listen to When did I ever say Democrats are so nice in their hearts are in the right place and they want to help people because I've never said oh no no I say they're not You were talking before about how Joe Biden hold on old joke I don't know he's not he's a terrible person Terrible person So how do you want to see them make Democrats pay for what they did in that kangaroo court of the committee Even be made to pay I want cash Patel I want them to show that with more police it would have never happened I want to show the ten minutes of video from breitbart where the Democrats are not accepting elections I want somebody refuting Cassidy Hutchinson and I just walked into destroy the arguments So you know what I am with you Robert In fact in fact listen I'm not usually a tit for tat guy but in this case it's time for revenge I want Kevin McCarthy to do exactly what Nancy Pelosi did And that is to do a televised hearing to show what you didn't see in the January 6 hearings And I don't want any Democrats on that panel I want the entire thing to be dominated by Republicans Well I was wrong when Democrats did it You're damn right it was wrong when they did it And now it's time for equal time
Opening Arguments
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on Opening Arguments
"At checkout. But this to me is classic 18 USC 1512 B witness intimidation. And that is whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatening, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct towards another person with intent to influence delay or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding. So break that down to its constituent parts, what you have to show is the folks in Trump are those would be the folks who get charged with this. Whether it came from Donald Trump or whether it came from a layer lower than Donald Trump, that somebody was using intimidation while you just read that, Liz. Or corruptly persuading another person and that was the first set of things that you read Liz. Or engaging in misleading conduct, which is everything you read. To influence the testimony of another person to wit Cassidy Hutchinson in an official proceeding to wit the January 6th committee's investigation. So those components do not seem that difficult to put together to me to say, this looks like, you know, when the mob boss says, yeah, you know, we'll get you squealy Pete over here is your lawyer. And you know, he's just gonna make sure everybody's all on the same page, cape. Why is his lawyer squealy Pete? That's a little weird. Maybe you're a banjo music. But if you like that, there's like infinity more where that came from. I've got another quote for you. So Cassidy Hutchinson is describing a conversation with passantino. He was like, did you overhear things? And I said, yes, and he said, were you in the meetings? I said not all of them, but I was in some of them. He was like, well, if you just overheard conversations that happened, you don't need to testify to that. So if I overheard it from a member, do I have to, and he said, it's circumstantial. We can talk about it. So I said, okay. I don't think that's what circumstantial means. Yeah, I was that kind of rule. I don't think that's how the rules of evidence work. I don't think that's how perjury works. I don't think any of that works like that. That's very clearly him trying to tell her, you know, you don't have to say the things that you did. And at various points, he said, well, it's not your Mark Meadows put you in this situation where you were in the room and it's Mark Meadows job to tell the committee about this. It's not, it's not your job to tell the committee about this or Tony ornato, the Secret Service agent who told her about this event which happened in the presidential limousine when the Secret Service agent told Trump that he wasn't going to drive him to the capitol to supervise the riot that it was Tony ornatos obligation to tell the committee and if Cassidy Hutchinson said she didn't remember it, that was fine. It wasn't perjury, even though she remembered it perfectly well. That is spectacularly terrible advice. This just really sounds to me like someone who knows the circumstances you already described. Someone who knows they have a 24 year old who maybe doesn't know much about the law, and it's just gonna bullshit them to get what it just manipulate them to get what they want. Here's another. He said, if you don't a 100% recall something, even if you don't recall a date or somebody who may or may not have been in the room, that's an entirely fine answer, he's saying, I don't recall. And we want you to use that response as much as you don't as you deem necessary. I said, but if I do recall something but not every little detail stuff on, can I still say I don't recall? And he said, yes, and I said, but if I do remember things but not every little detail, and I say I don't recall, wouldn't I be perjuring myself, and Stefan said something to the effect of the committee doesn't know what you can and can't recall. So we want to be able to use that as much as we can unless you really, really remember something very clearly. And that's when you give a short sweep response. The less you remember the better, I don't think you should be filling in calendars or anything. I don't like that, you know. So in a given testimony, if you know everything that happened, I saw Andrew with a knife, you know, commit the murder. But I don't remember what color shirt he was wearing. So I'll just say I don't remember. I don't remember if it was Tuesday or Thursday. So I do not recall. Perfectly fine. Did not happen. A follow-up because, I mean, this is, this is such a common aspect of this world. I mean, Liz put it best when she said there are infinity more examples of this. After testifying that she did not recall Tony ornato incident in the beast, she then describes meeting with passantino afterwards after having talked to the committee, and she says, quote, it's like this little fishbowl room adjacent to rinse priebus office. And once we close the door, the glass door I looked at Stefan and I said, Stefan, IMF, and he was like, don't freak out. You're fine. Should know. Stefan, I'm aft. I just lied. And he said, you didn't lie. And I said, no Stefan, do you know how many times they ask me that question? I just lied. And he said, they don't know what you know Cassidy.
Opening Arguments
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on Opening Arguments
"Would you mind letting me know where the funding for this is coming from? I want to thank them, want to thank whoever it is because I'm just trying to kind of figure things out. And he said, if you want to know at the end, we'll let you know, but we're not telling people where funding is coming from right now. Don't worry, we're taking care of you like you're never going to get a bill for this, so if that's what you're worried about, I was like, okay, that's what I was worried about. She says, adding wasn't the only thing I was worried about. And she knew. I mean, this is so sleazy. So I don't think that it's the run of the mill dirtbag lawyer stuff. I think this is like extra special dirtbag lawyer stuff. You get disbarred stuff. So what do you think, Andrew? Yeah, no, I agree with that a 100%. Yeah, I think it's the TV tropey stuff that I think a lot of us non lawyers have in the back of our minds. And another thing, which, you know, I guess probably a lot of your listeners have been following through all of the Mueller report stuff and we'll remember all of those joint defense agreements were basically everybody was in cahoots to make sure that anything that was asked and all testimony got shared among like 12 people. Here's another bit of her testimony where she's talking about realizing that Trump's attorney Justin Clark and also Alex cannon, a bunch of other people like Eric harshman, were going to get anything that she gave to Pasadena. She says, Stefan had told me that towards the end of the day that because he was involved with elections LLC and tangentially, I guess Trump's PACS, he had law partners, and unless I was extremely unwilling for him to share, he said it would be natural for him to have to share that information with the people that he works with that are his partners and are involved in Trump world. That's not cool, right? That's not like your typical lawyer stuff. Like, oh, please aggregate the attorney client privilege so that I can share anything you tell me or anything you tell the committee with everybody in Trump world, that's not normal. And you know, for him to say to not kind of let her understand the implications of that and whether it was good for her as the purported client, that's real hanky. What do you think, Andrew? Yeah, no, I think that leads into sort of item number 5 that is in the executive summary to the January 6th committee's final report in which they're talking about the referrals that they make out, right? And so the press has covered extensively the actual enumerated criminal referrals, one, two, three, and four. We've talked about them at length on this show. You've talked about them. The 5th category in which the committee says, we have evidence and we encourage the appropriate law enforcement officials to take notice of this fact of efforts to obstruct the committee itself to tamper with witnesses. And to me, this line of questioning and that testimony that they already have. When they say we have evidence, they mean they have Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony that she later goes on to say that there's essentially a representation made that's like, oh yeah, no. Trump goes through it and pays attention to these transcripts when they get back to him. And she was terrified. She was legitimately terrified because she had seen what Trump world would do to people that it perceived as disloyal. That was her main fear she was trying to game it out 6 ways from Sunday because she knew that if they put a target on her back, I mean, look, she had just watched them send a crowd of armed people to sack the capitol. She knew what they would do and she'd seen Trump's Twitter feed. Here's another great quote you're going to love. So she says, in the same conversation, passantino said, so if you have any conversations with any of them, especially Eric hirschman, we want to really work to protect Eric hirschman, and I remember saying sarcastically to him, Eric can handle himself Eric has his own resources. Why do I have to protect Eric? He said, no, no, no. Just to keep everything straight, like we want to protect Eric with all of this. Well, Eric wasn't the client or Eric wasn't supposedly the client and her job wasn't to protect Eric, her job was to give truthful testimony or to protect herself, but who is the client the client is the one who is getting protected here and clearly that wasn't her. Yeah, it's like the old if you look around the poker table and you don't see the person who's getting protected, then you're the Clinton. No. They're the client. That doesn't work. Never mind, scratch. Exactly how it goes. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by bombas. 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Opening Arguments
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on Opening Arguments
"All the way up in Trump world and she knew if she got in with him that she was never going to get out and that he was in some sense not going to be her lawyer. And she didn't have choice. Do you know how many money and the clock was ticking in? It was early February and she had to respond to the subpoena, so she accepted she accepted the services of services and stuff on past and she knew it was hanky from the job. Let me just jump in because you mentioned bar complaint and I want to be specific now with respect to rule of professional conduct 1.7 of the D.C. bar and OA listeners will understand the significance of this language. A lawyer shall not advance two or more adverse positions in the same matter. That's a point a sub point B is except if you clear the conflicts check a lawyer shall not represent a client with respect to a matter if the matter involves a specific part of your parties in a position to be taken by that client in that matter is adverse to a position to be taken later by another client in the same matter even though the client is unrepresented or represented by a different lawyer. So it is just I want to be clear for our non lawyer listeners as I interject here and I know you're going to get into some of the very, very gross specifics at the outset that representation in my view is at minimum sanctionable if not disbar able, right? Like this is you know you are getting ready to advance two contrary interests and in particular the underlying purpose of this rule, Donald Trump buying through his campaign is paying for the lawyer who will now be providing advice to a second client to take a position that is detrimental to that second client's interest in favor of the client who was footing the bills. This is not a close call. This is not at the edge. And I think that's why you led with passantino disbarment hearing. Sure. So she showed up and it was hinky from the jump. I also looked at the D.C. rules of professional conduct, and it doesn't appear that D.C. requires an engagement letter, some jurisdictions do. It doesn't appear that D.C. does. But she wanted to sign an engagement letter and he said, no, we're not doing that. And she said, who's paying for this? And he said, we're not discussing that right now, which is clearly not acceptable. It's totally unethical. And he had an obligation to disclose that to her. And he didn't. And he only disclosed it later and when he said, if you take a specific course of action, which we can get into in a minute, if you take a specific course of action, which you would like to take, the Trump will stop paying your legal bills. So, you know, you know who the real client is, the client is the one who gets to call the shots. She wasn't able to call the shots, she wasn't the real client, which is what she knew was going to happen from the beginning. So she shows up, she says, can I sign an engagement letter? He says no. She says who, who's paying, he says not telling. And then they go to sort. She wants to talk about being prepared for her deposition because one of the reasons that the other attorneys she'd interviewed it had wanted 6 figure retainers is that they anticipated spending a lot of time preparing her for this deposition. And he said, there's no need for that. We're not even we don't have to meet at all. And you don't print out your calendar because if you print out your calendar then you'll be able to answer questions with specificity. It's better for you not to know something. And if you don't know it, you can just say I don't recall, which is the goal here for everybody. And what do you think about that, Andrew? Do you have any, do you have some thoughts on that? And first, let me say, and this, I think, stands in kind of contrast to the plain language of 1.7 a D.C. rule 1.5 B does say while it doesn't say you must have an engagement letter like some jurisdictions. It says, when a lawyer has not regularly represented the client, which is the case here, the basis or the rate of the fee, the scope of the lawyer's representation and the expenses for which the client will be responsible shall be communicated to the client in writing before or within a reasonable time after commencing the representation. Those are the kind of things that you put into an engagement letter. So, you know, while that might not be a hard and fast rule, it certainly is, I do not know any lawyer who practices in the District of Columbia that does not follow the standard practice of an attorney for getting an engagement letter with your client. The second you hear the kind of I was going to say hanki Ness, but it's worse than that. Don't worry your pretty little head about who's paying for this. That's a sign to run. And then with respect to the substance of the advice, this situation's differ as to when you are required to educate yourself about a subject that may be within your knowledge. Sometimes that's up to the questioner to ask a follow-up question. So, you know, it's good practice in a deposition in an interview session. And certainly to tell a witness that I don't recall is not a gradient for a whole lot of reasons, even when it's not a lie because a good lawyer will ask you, well, is there something that might help you recall? And then you have to answer that. And you have to say, oh, yeah, well, I have a calendar. I have a diary. I have this. I have that. Oh, well, did you consult that at any time prior to coming in here? No. Okay. Yeah, right. And you say, why not? And then your lawyer says objection that would require revealing attorney client privilege and who boy were off to the races. Some of this stuff sounds to me or to a really cynical about lawyers person, which I think a lot of our population is. This sounds like run of the mill like being a dirtbag lawyer. What exactly ventures into the like, no, this is unacceptable, you know, disbarred, whatever kind of stuff. I don't think it is pretty run of the mill. I mean, I think it's run of the mill for like on TV and it's the way that you broadcast that you're a dirt bag. I don't think most attorneys conduct themselves this way. I mean, it leaves you open for all kinds of things. Like, look, look, I found the passage. So here's how she described in her testimony trying to figure out who was paying the bill, although I think she basically knew the whole time. So then I had asked him, all right, well, that's perfectly fine.
Opening Arguments
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on Opening Arguments
"Dot com slash OA. Zip recruiter, the smartest way to hire. They can not arrest a husband and wife. But the same crying. Yeah, I don't think that that's true, dad. Really? I got the worst. Attorneys. And we're joined by Liz dye so happy to have you on the show. I'm glad we squeezed you in, even though we were on the two show a week. The measly two show week format right now, but it's great to have you. I'm excited to talk about this Cassidy Hutchinson stuff. How are you doing? Okay, how are you? Great. Couldn't be better. Just fully rested and ready to record. I'm just excited that we have Liz back. We're going to talk. Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony was so significant that there was an entire release period that was just her transcripts, right? I think she spoke to the committee on four occasions. And as we talked about last week and kind of previewed, she is going to be one of the featured witnesses in any trial of Donald Trump on any of the charges that have been referred out by the January 6th committee or on anything else that Trump gets charged with other than the Nora Lago stuff. I don't think she knows anything about documents. A lot of good things going in her favor. She seems very trustworthy, believable. It's an easy story to tell. I'm like, you know, some of these other folks who we've talked about Richard Donahue, for example, Richard Donoghue was going to have to skirt the line between I'm surrounded by idiots sycophants and morons who were trying to destroy democracy as we know it. And what did you do? Well, I served it until January 20th. A good defense lawyer is going to probe those kinds of questions. Cassie Hutchinson has a really great story to tell, which is, you know, yeah, I was 12, and I was in a little over my head, and I was idealistic. And I thought that I was getting to be a part of something until I watched this sort of horror show deteriorating around me. And I didn't know what to do, and there will be contemporaneous conversations with other folks like Kayleigh McEnany, in which she said those things. So good things. Cassie had also was initially provided a lawyer paid for by the Trump campaign and Liz, this is where your expertise comes in. I mean, I don't know that I would call it expertise, maybe like indignation or horror. The things that they did to this person who was young and idealistic and financially dependent on them were just we were just appalling and gross. I mean, she really was a kid. This is a person who couldn't rent a car during most of this stuff I believe she's 26, so what was she 24 at the end of the Trump administration? She was a kid. She had no money. She had no job. These people constantly dangled jobs in front of her said they were going to take care of her and used her and did it in such a way as to bury the incriminating testimony which she had to give. She will be the first witness and she could be the only witness and it will probably work at Stefan pest and Tino's inevitable bar complaint. He is, he is a member of the D.C. bar. And the D.C. bar, as is shown with Rudy Giuliani in the past couple of weeks, is kind of done with this shit. So I am quite sure that someone's going to file a bar complaint against him and I am quite sure that she will be a witness. Is that all? In that complaint. Is that all you give us a bar complaint? Look, I mean, it depends what they say, right? There are things that are a little on the edge, and there are things that are grossly on the edge. I'm sure he'll deny it, and, you know, she's a pretty compelling witness, as she has proven, so we shall see. So let's delve into some of the specifics and then we can talk about the bar complaint and we can talk about sort of the larger potential criminal implications that this might have both for passantino and for sort of the larger Trump scheme. Yeah, okay. So I think it's probably best to go back to the beginning and talk about how she got in with these people. Cassidy Hutchinson learned in early 2022 that she was going to be subpoenaed by the committee. And she was freaked out and she needed to find a lawyer and what she wanted was to find somebody who is not in Trump land because she knew from having been in with these people that if she, if she took money from them, she was going to be beholden to them. And she tried very hard to try and not be with them. She was going to engage somebody from Evan the court corcoran's law firm Thompson slut can silver midwife. I believe I got those names out of order, but she wanted to engage from somebody from that firm and in the beginning they said they would represent her pro Bono, but when she finally got subpoenaed, they gave her some kind of story about Mark Meadows had stopped cooperating with the committee and so they were going to have to charge her a $150,000 retainer, which she did not have because she was a kid and she didn't have a job. I just want to say for the record that I do not have a $150,000 retainer. So right, I assume you have the resources to get that. She did not have the resources to get to get the retainer. So she knew she was going to be in trouble. So she went back to Trump world and she started working all of her connections in Trump world at which point it appears to have occurred to them that this kid had been in the room when all of this stuff went down and it would behoove them to find our lawyer to keep her on side, which is what they did. So she kind of, she was talking to Susie wiles, who is Trump's Florida guru. She's really big in Florida politics and Pam Bondi, the former attorney general of Florida. And attorneys like Eric hirschman, who said, oh, we didn't know you hadn't been taken care of, and this is such a bad position for you to be in and, you know, like, I have respect for that guy. I think he's really tough, but he's a snake. So he kind of promised that they would take care of her. And Alex cannon, who was also a Trump land lawyer, hooked her up with Stefan Pacino, who had been in The White House as an ethics lawyer, which is like a contradiction in terms, but there it is. He had also represented Ivanka Trump, he had represented Eric harshman. He had argued both for the Trump campaign and I believe for the Trump administration for many of Trump's more ridiculous positions on privilege that he had been immune from testimony and immune from being investigated when he was an office.
Opening Arguments
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on Opening Arguments
"Access to the transition funds so that we can get on with the business of having an adult takeover in the government. There we go. But this is good news. It's just very good news, and again, this is not executive order. This is a law. Yeah, quietly. Biden's having a really successful end to his first two years here. Economic data is looking better. It's weird. I'm not the optimist, but I don't know. There's a lot of signs that could make him stronger than I was thinking he would be. I don't want him to run. And do I know what you're for? But he's going to. I'm sure. And I don't know. It sort of reminds me of like Reagan's first two years were and this is obviously the bizarro evil universe example. But Reagan's first two years were terrible, and then things turned around and then we had reaganism for decades. So I don't know if it'll be that, but as bad as it has felt for the first two years of Biden in certain ways, I don't know, maybe there's maybe there's a bright side. There's a lot of legislative success in the lame duck and the toward the end of this. What do you think? I think that is exactly right. I think it is borne out by the numbers, which show a pretty consistent tightening in favor of Joe Biden. Certainly from the summer period, June, July, August. You know, when gasoline was 5 bucks a gallon, it's down under three bucks a gallon in most of the country. Not California. I drive an electric vehicle. How much is a gallon of electricity right now? Gallon electricity is four quasi watts. Those arguments seem kind of dumb now, right? And you are, I love the 82 comparison because Ronald Reagan's Republicans got wiped out in the 82 midterms. That was looking like a disaster and in two years they turned it around into the largest landslide in presence of history. Imagine an alternate history in which Reagan was a one term president boy. Better world. Much better world, but not the one in which we inhabit. So a bit of optimism. There you go. And that leads us into Liz die. So let's get on the line with Liz die and talk about the worst lawyer. Oh boy. This episode is brought to you by zip recruiter. Hey, if you're hiring for your company, this is a busy time of year because you've got new 2023 goals, which means finding the right people to accomplish them. Unfortunately, you also have new hiring challenges for 2023, like finding qualified candidates or adjusting to candidates work preferences, but thankfully there's a place you can go that can help you conquer these challenges and achieve your hiring goals. And I've always said, as someone who used to hire people, my old job, that is something that you need help with because the more time it takes to find the right person, the more work piles up and then you get behind and then you feel like you don't have time to keep looking for the right person. It's this cycle that can really leave you behind in your work. And so that's why I think if you are looking to hire somebody, try zip recruiter, go to zip recruiter dot com slash OA zip recruiter uses its powerful matching technology to find
AP News Radio
Jan. 6 witness recounts pressure campaign from Trump allies
"A January 6 witness told the congressional panel investigating the right she was urged by Trump allies to be less than forthcoming. I Norman hall, former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson told the experienced a wide ranging pressure campaign from Donald Trump's allies aimed at influencing her cooperation with Congress and stifling potentially damaging testimony about Trump, an extraordinary closed door testimony made public Hutchinson said those in the former president circle dangle job opportunities and financial assistance as she was cooperating with the committee investigating the capitol riot. She testified that her own lawyer former ethics council in the Trump White House told her the less you remember the better. Norman hall, Washington
The Officer Tatum Show
Star Jan. 6 Witness Cassidy Hutchinson Was Told to Lie to Committee
"All right, let me talk about this, the star January 6 witness Cassidy Hutchinson was told to lie to committee lied to committee by ex Trump lawyer reports states. You know, it's funny the titles of these articles are just completely ridiculous and stupid. I get so upset when I read titles or articles because sometimes they don't even have complete sentences. And I'm just like, what's the point even writing a title? But anyway, let me go on. It reports it says the Trump White House ethic ethics lawyer reportedly advised former White House aide Cassidy hutchison to give misleading testimony while appearing before the January 6th committee earlier this summer. I think it's Stephen Pastino. The top ethnic attorney in the Trump administration reportedly told Hutchinson to tell committee members she did not recall certain details that they were investigating even if she did remember. The lawyer had advised the witness that the witness could in certain circumstances tell the committee that she did not recall facts when she actually did recalled them.
Mark Levin
Kevin McCarthy Can’t Recall Talking to Cassidy Hutchinson on Jan. 6
"It'll get worse before it gets better Here's Kevin McCarthy to press conference today and Manu Raju of CNN There he is Blabbering on like a Democrat cut 9 go She testified under oath saying that she would be casually hutchison Cut 9 go She testified under oath saying that you called her after Donald Trump said that urges told her supporters that they were going to go to the capitol and you were concerned about those remarks and said don't come up here Figure it out don't come up here She said that I don't know Did you tell her that And why were you concerned about the prospects of Donald Trump coming to the capitol on January 6th I don't even call talking to her that day I recall talking to Dan scavino we were talking to Jared I read called talking to Trump That's what I talked to on television like that too If I talk to her I don't remember it If it was coming up here I don't think I wanted a lot of people coming up to the capitol But I don't remember the conversation Specifically about Trump coming to the capitol I don't remember that You don't remember being concerned about his comments No But because I didn't watch it This is what is so confusing I didn't watch the speech I was working So I didn't see what was said I didn't see what went on Till after the fact No I've never I've never communicated with about coming to capital I had no idea he would come to the capital I had no idea that he was even going to come to the capitol That's news to me Isn't this interesting She was under oath She was under oath but everybody wanted to believe her in the media
Mark Levin
Hutchinson Asked Sr. Trump Officials for Financial Help After Subpoena
"Cassidy hutchison The more we learn the more it's obvious What a pathetic witness this was at least three occasions She said things and things in her testimony that were not accurate Or that she couldn't possibly have known So you have to assume the committee spoon fed that information or perhaps dizzy Lizzy But here we have a piece from Henry Rogers senior congressional correspondent not junior senior So this is big time At the daily caller exclusive Cassidy Hutchinson begged senior Trump officials for quote financial assistance after being subpoenaed by J 6 committee I thought she got rid of those lawyers because those lawyers were kind of limiting what she would say and they got they got her new lawyers where she could just you know she was free to speak The January 6th committee's key witness Cassidy hutchison asked for senior asked former senior Trump officials for financial assistance In legal help in February after she was subpoenaed by the committee According to an email obtained exclusively by the daily mail Does Mick Mulvaney know this mister Medusa Somebody interviewed Mick Mulvaney right away and let him know I think mix in a bad place right now In an email sent to a former senior Trump official February 4 Hutchinson said she had trouble securing a legal team and asked the former senior Trump official for help We're getting in contact with fundraising organizations or attorneys that could help
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
Hutchinson Asked Trump Officials for Money Before Jan. 6 Testimony
"Now we now know is in dire financial straits. They bring her before the committee. And my question now is, did they coach her? Did they tell her what to say? What promises were made, what promises were given? Were any financial arrangements agreed to before she testified? Because as she testified, miss Hutchinson said at the moment she was horrified, she didn't know what to do on January the 6th. She was telling people in The White House that we had to distance themselves from all of these people and on and on and on and on. That's how she testified that she was horrified by president Trump. And now we know, thanks to the daily caller, they have an exclusive report out that the January 6th committee's key witness Cassidy Hutchinson was in such dire financial straits. She was in she had no attorney. She had no legal representation. That she reached out to the Trump campaign. She sent emails to Trump officials begging for help. She said that she was primarily seeking financial assistance she was in a bind financially. She said I've had difficulty securing a legal team was hoping you may be able to put me in contact with any fundraising organizations and attorneys that are evolved in the process. And again, I don't know how the daily caller got these emails, but they've got the exclusive. She goes on to say my aunt and uncle applied to refinance their house to loosen up some money since I don't have much immediate family, but they were not approved. Multiple senior Trump officials and a person with firsthand knowledge told the daily caller that White House chief of staff Mark Meadows would not answer Hutchinson's calls after she was
AP News Radio
Trump WH counsel Cipollone gives 1/6 testimony, new info
"Big congressional panel investigating the capital ride has heard from the former Trump White House council AP's Norman hall reports Former White House counsel pat cipollone had an 8 hour private interview with the January 6th committee Has been a sought after witness over his role trying to prevent then president Donald Trump from challenging the 2020 presidential election and joining the violent mob at the capitol so Bologna was subpoenaed for his testimony and stunning testimony last week the panel was told by former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson that cipollone warned that defeated president would be charged with every crime imaginable if he went to the capital on January 6th trying to stop the certification of Joe Biden's election Norman hall Washington
Mark Levin
The Jan. 6 Committee Wanted Cassidy Hutchinson's Testimony ASAP
"That the primary witness so far of this committee Got nothing right And couldn't possibly have known One way or the other And then she claims that a handwritten note is hers doesn't she know about her own handwriting When I rec hershman a lawyer for the president at the time says no I wrote it That's my handwriting Now it's my belief this woman was pressured for four interviews behind the scenes She switched out our lawyers and something funny happened So they called a hearing as fast as they could because they wanted her on the record as fast as they could because they couldn't get anything confirmed And they weren't going to waste their time going to the Secret Service They had this person willing to testify under oath To what they wanted her to say Now none of this would have happened If there had been Republicans on this committee who were not lap dogs for Nancy Pelosi after had been staff on this committee for those Republicans none of this could have possibly happened because out there in a public hearing the dispute that contrary testimony would have been revealed Would have been revealed
The Dinesh D'Souza Podcast
Julie Kelly Responds to January 6 Committee in New Article
"The one and only Julie Kelly has a new article on January 6th. She's responding to a lot of this commentary that's coming from the January 6th committee. By the way, backed trip alone, the former lawyer for Trump in The White House is evidently going to testify tomorrow Friday. Now I don't know if he's giving public testimony. It says he's giving transcribed testimony. I don't know if that means he's going to be interviewed remotely and they're going to transcribe the interview. He's not going to be doing it on video. But evidently, this is going to go into a car tomorrow. So we'll see what comes of all that. But there's been a lot of talk to the effect that you had a kind of armory of ammunition in Washington, D.C.. Brought by all kinds of militia groups and we're getting this narrative from we got some of it from Cassidy Hutchinson, who testified. She kept talking about quote armed supporters of Trump. Now again, she had no evidence of any of this. She's referring to other people who told her about these things. And then she begins to say, quote, I remember Tony mentioning knives, guns in the form of pistols and rifles, bear spray, body armor, spears, and flag balls. Right there, you gotta be a little cautious. If someone is bringing a flag bowl as a weapon, this is not exactly a weapon of insurrection. Hey, I'm gonna take over the government. I'm gonna bring my flagpole with
AP News Radio
Trump White House counsel Cipollone to testify to 1/6 panel
"The Trump White House's former top lawyer is said to testify this week before the House panel investigating the capitol riot A person briefed on the matter says pat cipollone has agreed to appear Friday for a private transcribed interview The committee last week issued a subpoena for cipollone who is said to have repeatedly warned Donald Trump and allies against efforts to challenge the 2020 election loss Former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson testified last week that cipollone strongly urged that the president not go to the capitol on January 6th as Congress prepared to certify Joe Biden's win We're going to get charges every crime imaginable But while cipollone's panel appearance could be a breakthrough it's unclear whether he'll try to limit what he says He could argue that as the administration's top lawyer some or all of his talks with Trump are privileged Sagar Meghani at The White House
The Officer Tatum Show
Making Sense of the Cassidy Hutchinson Testimony
"She just said at the beginning of her testimony that they were in the beast. Last time I checked the beast is the limousine. And I think it's a 22 foot long vehicle. He just reached up in the front of the, listen, he sits in the back. Next to the window so everybody can see him. Same place that he, you know, he's a designated place he sit there. There's a designated place that he's sitting in Air Force One. There's a designated place where he sits in marine one. Having a president going to go from a back of a 22 foot vehicle, somehow fly through the air with a Superman cape on, and put his arm through, I'm assuming there's a partition there that they must have opened to let the president put his arm through. And the president is a big dude. He ain't reaching his arm all the way through a partition to the steering wheel.
The Officer Tatum Show
Cassidy Hutchinson: A Product of 'Pretty Privilege'
"We got another blase for people. Cassidy hutchison. They put a pretty woman in front of Congress and let her say whatever she want to say. And they expect you to be dumb enough to believe her. Let me tell you this, there's a such thing called pretty privilege. If you're a good-looking woman, people will tend to believe you, even if you're lying to their face. And I believe this is why they chose Cassidy Hutchinson to tell what I believe is a bar face lie. If you have not seen the testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson at the Janie 6th hearing, which I think is a good pre fraud in the scam and most American people couldn't care less about January 6th at this point when your gas prices out of control. Inflation is out of control. The house of market is out of control. I think you can buy a house now in Arizona to Houston going out of here. The housing market is exploded. You ain't gonna be able to buy a house now. All of those things are going on and they want you to focus on January 6th.
WTOP
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on WTOP
"Now to the top stories we're following for you on WTO. A July 4th parade in the Chicago suburbs appears to have left people heard. While there is no official report on the injured, witnesses describe seeing bloodied bodies that seem to be covered with blankets. The Chicago Sun-Times reports the parade started about ten, but suddenly stopped ten minutes later after the shots were fired. Taking metro to the mall to catch the fireworks could be challenging. It will be crowded. You can blame fewer trains that are typically than are typically running July 4th. There will be a lot of people too, station entry could be restricted by transit police to prevent unsafe crowding on the platforms, wait times after the show could be over an hour. More witnesses are coming forward with new details on the capital insurrection. A member of the House January 6th committee says they've apparently been inspired by testimony from former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson. She leveled withering accusations against former president Trump, Illinois Republican, Adam kinzinger, says there will be way more information coming in two public hearings this month. Keep it here on WTO for more on these stories in just minutes. For years now, Florida's Republican governor has targeted California over jobs in politics. California's democratic governor is now fighting back. Florida Republican Ron DeSantis has long told Californians to come here. If they disagree with the state's politics, now California Democrat Gavin Newsom has taken aim at the Sanders and GOP lawmakers. The
WTOP
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on WTOP
"Memorable and definitely historic. Cassidy Hutchinson, she really did deliver some of the most damning accusations against former president Trump. Of course, we all remember as he watched that hearing that she accused him and said that she heard that he had grabbed Secret Service, agent by the neck that he was also trying to grab at the steering wheel of his presidential vehicle because he was so intent on trying to get to the capitol on January 6th after he had told the crowd to go there. This, of course, was after people are already breaking into the capitol. So that was pretty damning. She also said that she overheard and was told that former president Trump said that Mike Pence deserved to be hanged. She also said that president Trump wanted people even with weapons to be admitted into the rally saying that she didn't believe that they would hurt him. And she also said one other thing, which was that she found it to be un American and unpatriotic at two 24. He tweeted condemnation of former vice president Mike Pence as Mike Tyson was literally being evacuated from the building. So there were a lot of accusations there. There have been anonymous sources who have been pushing back on her testimonies and through NBC News and through CBS News. No one with their name so far has done that, but there have been a number of people who have also called out Tony arnett and he is someone who was a deputy chief of staff at The White House at the time saying that he has lied about them in different times. The Secret Service is that they will be cooperative with the committee if they want people to testify. So I think it's kind of money and definitely tense, but definitely explosive allegations. Absolutely. And such a huge story we could ask you a million more questions about just that, but we need to touch upon the continued effect of roe V wade being struck down yamiche. There is more discussion than ever, especially from former senator Joe Biden about the filibuster going away to try to restore some of these rights. What are you hearing? Well, this is really a new political landscape taking shape in the aftermath of the Supreme Court overturning roe V wade. Democrats are arguing that reproductive rights are on the ballot. We heard President Biden this week come out and say that he supports lifting the filibuster rule in the Senate to try to codify roe V wade, even though he said Democrats do not have the votes to do so. So his new strategy is pushing to say that they need two more votes in the Senate because at least two Democrats in the Senate Joe Manchin and others refuse to lift the filibuster for abortion rights or for voting rights. So you really see it on that side. The Democrats really scrambling to get a strategy together that is focused on making the case to voters ahead of the midterms. And of course on the Republican side, you see celebrations, you see now bands going into effect. And you also see Republicans saying this week that Democrats want to talk more about abortion than about rising costs of the gas pump at the grocery store and inflation. So Republicans are really trying to turn the nation's attention back to inflation and really wanting to move past the abortion decisions, but it's going to be a tough
The Officer Tatum Show
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on The Officer Tatum Show
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The Officer Tatum Show
Will Candace Owens Run for Office in 2024?
"Just wanted to call in. Ask you a quick question. How often do you speak with Candace Owens and is she planning on running in 2024? Is she going to be one of these guys vice president? Well, I talked to Ken and zones often. I just talked to it like two days ago, but it's not one time that she says she's going to run for president. So I mean, rough of president or vice president. So, but I mean, I don't know, man. You know, I think that to be honest, you know, I think that Candace being a vice president would be crazy. You know, I mean, crazy and the fact that they're not going to be able to handle her. You know, I'm not on the train of go ahead and they think go ahead. I love watching her debate and I love watching her debate. I love watching her wreck these liberal retard and I don't know. I think it should be at least campaign manager or something she needs to be on one of their teams because she not only does she destroy the stereotype or whatever, but she also is just like one of the smartest people, let alone a woman. She's one of the smartest people I've ever
The Officer Tatum Show
The Economy Is What's Driving Voters to the Polls
"Right now as it stands, Donald Trump is the FrontRunner in my mind. He's the front ready for president. I'm sick of the drama that surrounds Donald Trump because of these leftist dickies. He can't stand them. I'm sick of them crying every day about him. But at the end of the day, I still want him to be the president. Now I will say that there's people that I've talked to in the lounge and people that are Democrats and never trumpers and they said that they'll vote for desantis and they wouldn't vote for Donald Trump. I want to know what you guys think about that. We posed this question on the show before, but I really want to know what you guys think if you want to call in and give some insight. We did a poll on my YouTube channel. And I'm going to look it up so I can get the accurate and accurate number of how many people actually participated in the poll, let me see community tab, look at the poll. We did a poll, it says, who do you want? To be the chosen Republican candidate to run for president in 2024. We had a 127,000 people participate in the poll. Obviously, 100%, maybe 99% of these people are conservative. But 55% of people said they wanted Donald Trump. 40% said they wanted Ron DeSantis. We did another. We did a few other polls on here. Just so you guys could be aware of what the people are thinking, especially on the YouTube channel. And these are significant amount of people on a poll. I mean, all of these are over 100,000 people polled. One of the things was, and I know some of you guys may have comments about this. What issue do you think would drive voters to the poll most in this year's midterm election? Gun laws, apportioned economy, social issues, other. 90% of people said that the economy, inflation gas prices and stocks. 90% out of a 153,000 people, they voted that the biggest thing that's going to make them turn out in the midterms is the economy.
The Officer Tatum Show
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on The Officer Tatum Show
"They come into office worth 35 cent and then they leave worth 35 million. That math ain't adding up. 70% Antonio, you're welcome to the outside show. Officer Tatum, what a pleasure to speak with you. Prior to you taking over, I spoke with Larry elder a few times, and I wish him all the best. Can you too? After I just wanted to bring the line to your attention. And I think everybody needs to get their pen out write it down. And it's a quote that needs to be said, just like this. Evil, never retreats on its own. I think it speaks for itself. It tells you it puts it in perspective as to the battle that we're in and that's why Trump doesn't give up because he's been fighting the evil force since a day he came down that escalator. And he's going to be fighting it probably till he's 6 foot under with this leftist kami group that we have and we're fighting it too. But you're doing a great job officer Tatum. Keep it up. San Anton's turning into a war zone. I'm scared to death. Day and night in this city. And we have a bunch of morons in city hall that are given us a stamp of approval with all the border, the trucks and everything in our pork governors, Boston is but in a wheelchair trying to keep us safe. So God bless you, God bless America and remember, evil never retreats on its own. Keep up the good work. Thanks for listening. Thank you, Cindy. I really appreciate it. I think that's an incredible quote. Evil never retreats on its own. You gotta beat it into submission and kick it out of your house. And I hope that we understand this as conservatives as conservatives as Republicans is that we have to keep our foot on the gas. Anybody that's a sports fan, it is the most annoying thing you understand what I'm saying. It is the most annoying thing in whatsoever. When your team lets off the gas, it has time because they're up 35 to 6. And they let out the gas and they start playing not to lose instead of playing the wind and the other team come back and win..
The Officer Tatum Show
Caller John: Why the Left REALLY Supports Planned Parenthood
"John. Welcome to the outside of the show. Hey, Brandon. First time caller. Then listen to your show ever since it came on sale and I love your show. One of the things that nobody seemed to talk about is the Democrat party, why they're supporting Planned Parenthood. So strongly. And it's because they're taking tax dollars and they're funding Planned Parenthood and then Planned Parenthood in return is then sending money back to the DNC and all these people that are Democrats. So all these Democrats are getting funded through our tax dollars, whether we like it or not. And this is a big problem. And then what ends up happening is once these people decide that they're going to go out and retire because we've got a bunch of Democrats and even some Republicans that have decided to pull the plug and leave, they get to keep all those tax donations. Those donations that people have sent into them. And they get to keep that free and clear as if it was just money earned. We've got a problem in this country. And some of these laws that these politicians have created to benefit themselves personally is what's destroying this country. John, thank you so much for the call and I couldn't agree with you more. These people are crooked. I think that Donald Trump exposed that. If Donald Trump didn't do anything else, he exposed how crooked these people
The Officer Tatum Show
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on The Officer Tatum Show
"I'm just convinced that this is going to be a deal breaker for many conservatives. That are running for office. We have already seen Carrie Lake has come out and made a unequivocal statement. She's running for governor state of Arizona, which is where I live. That's why I care about it so much. She's made an unequivocal statement that the election was stolen. Other candidates, well, I could say Karen Roberson wouldn't raise her hand when the question was asking the debate if the election was stolen. Ladies and gentlemen, I mean, I don't know what to tell you. If you look at what happened in the election, never in the history and I'm a rehash this until I'm blue in the face. There may be somebody that's liberal that's listening to this that need to hear it. Never in the history of our country have they stopped the vote like they did in the 2020 election. There is never occurred in the history of our country that a president won the bear with all but one bill with a county and didn't win the presidency. There is never in history have a president warned the states that Donald Trump won in 2020 and did win the presidency. There has never been a time in history where president has gotten as many votes as Donald Trump did in the increase in votes from 2016 to 2020 and did not win the presidency. These are unprecedented historic markers that have never happened in the history of our country. And you can not tell me that somehow Joe Biden has garnished that much hatred. Think about this. If Biden was that good and delivered that well, why did president and in president Trump did so bad, right? People are saying he handled COVID poorly. He did all this. He got like 10 million more views. I mean, I've used more votes. I could be wrong on that number. But he got millions upon millions more people voting for him in 2020 than in 2016. How do you fail as a president? Meaning you didn't do as well, and you still get millions and millions of more people voting for you. And then you turn around and look at Barack Obama. Nobody on Planet Earth can tell me that Joe Biden was more popular than Barack Obama when he became president in 2008..
The Officer Tatum Show
The Dealbreaker for Many Conservatives Running for Office
"Continuing on with the foolery of Janie 6th. I'm just convinced that this is going to be a deal breaker for many conservatives. That are running for office. We have already seen Carrie Lake has come out and made a unequivocal statement. She's running for governor state of Arizona, which is where I live. That's why I care about it so much. She's made an unequivocal statement that the election was stolen. Other candidates, well, I could say Karen Roberson wouldn't raise her hand when the question was asking the debate if the election was stolen. Ladies and gentlemen, I mean, I don't know what to tell you. If you look at what happened in the election, never in the history and I'm a rehash this until I'm blue in the face. There may be somebody that's liberal that's listening to this that need to hear it. Never in the history of our country have they stopped the vote like they did in the 2020 election. There is never occurred in the history of our country that a president won the bear with all but one bill with a county and didn't win the presidency. There is never in history have a president warned the states that Donald Trump won in 2020 and did win the presidency. There has never been a time in history where president has gotten as many votes as Donald Trump did in the increase in votes from 2016 to 2020 and did not win the presidency. These are unprecedented historic markers that have never happened in the history of our country. And you can not tell me that somehow Joe Biden has garnished that much hatred. Think about this. If Biden was that good and delivered that well, why did president and in president Trump did so bad, right? People are saying he handled COVID poorly. He did all this. He got like 10 million more views. I mean, I've used more votes. I could be wrong on that number. But he got millions upon millions more people voting for him in 2020 than in 2016.
The Officer Tatum Show
Cheney to Secret Service: 'We Welcome Additional Testimony Under Oath'
"Listen to what Liz Cheney said, we're gonna roll clip 9. Listen to what Liz Cheney said in her response to Jenny or 6. Corroboration of Hutchinson's testimony. Did you seek testimony from Tony ornato or Robert engel to corroborate or to refute what she said? I don't want to get into too many details, the committee has spoken to both mister ornato and mister engel, and we welcome additional testimony under oath from both of them and from anybody else in the Secret Service who has information about any of these issues. Do you expect that that testimony will be live testimony under oath like her testimony and for the world to see? How is that going to happen? Look, we have been working with the Secret Service. We've interviewed, as I said, a number of individuals in the Secret Service. We will continue to do so. And I think it is important that their testimony be under oath. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we've seen this party before we been to this event before. One thing I don't understand is that you're claiming that you spoke to these people, not under oath, you have no testimony from anybody, ingles, anybody else, which is the head of the Secret Service. You have no testimony written down. You have disclosed the testimony and I don't know if they're supposed to bring these people up to testify or not, but why would you bring a person on to produce hearsay when you supposedly have people that have firsthand information?
The Officer Tatum Show
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on The Officer Tatum Show
"To the off to Tatum show ladies and gentlemen. I'm your host brand and Tatum follow me on social media at the office of Tatum. Also, a lot of people may not know this, but all the articles that I talk about, all the information I have, I actually have writers that write about it at the Tatum report. That's all on my website at the Asuka Tatum dot com. Who is right and who is wrong when it comes to miss Hutchinson. I'm going to talk about her a little bit more today, Cassidy hutchison, the young lady who gave testimony and many believe is a fraudulent testimony regarding Donald Trump being, I don't know Gumby. I don't know what super stretch Armstrong. Reaching through the beast, which is a limousine, it's like 22 feet long, and somehow slapping people and choking people and grabbing the steering wheel and all kind of amazing theories that came from Cassidy Hutchinson and many of them have not been proven to be fact. One thing that troubles me for a, you know, it troubles me dearly. Is that how in the world can you legitimize what you would consider to be witness testimony and the testimony is hearsay? Which means that this is a testimony from a person that does not have direct knowledge or didn't visibly see what she's talking about. How is this anything she say? Make any sense whatsoever when the girl didn't witness anything. This is why in a typical court of law, you can not introduce hearsay. Because if just say my God, Nick over here, if I testify that Nick told me XYZ. And then to verify that, someone goes to Nick and they ask Nick did you tell Brandon Tatum this? And Nick may say, no, I didn't tell him that. If there's no unequivocal evidence or impartial evidence that either one of us is telling a lie, then how do we know who's telling the truth? He may in fact told me that in our lied on the stand, he may in fact told me something different and, you know, now I'm making up something different than what he told me. All of the above is not immiscible in the court of law in any reasonable sense. Because it's not verifiable. It is funny to me that the Democrats have taken his heel and have set up shop to die on it. No one with common sense would think that this would be the appropriate time to talk about January 6th. And then in miss Hutchinson's testimony, she also mentioned that there were people who were writers at the capitol building with AR-15s..
The Officer Tatum Show
Cassidy Hutchinson's Hearsay Testimony Is Full of Holes
"Who is right and who is wrong when it comes to miss Hutchinson. I'm going to talk about her a little bit more today, Cassidy hutchison, the young lady who gave testimony and many believe is a fraudulent testimony regarding Donald Trump being, I don't know Gumby. I don't know what super stretch Armstrong. Reaching through the beast, which is a limousine, it's like 22 feet long, and somehow slapping people and choking people and grabbing the steering wheel and all kind of amazing theories that came from Cassidy Hutchinson and many of them have not been proven to be fact. One thing that troubles me for a, you know, it troubles me dearly. Is that how in the world can you legitimize what you would consider to be witness testimony and the testimony is hearsay? Which means that this is a testimony from a person that does not have direct knowledge or didn't visibly see what she's talking about. How is this anything she say? Make any sense whatsoever when the girl didn't witness anything.
The Argument
"cassidy hutchinson" Discussed on The Argument
"I want to talk a little bit about how the testimony changes the tenor of the hearings going forward. The committee is laying out a pretty solid case that Trump committed crimes. We talked a little bit about witness tampering. We've talked about some of the other ones. But of course, they can't bring charges. And that's up to the Department of Justice. It's a choice to not bring charges. And I think it's a choice that is seeming harder and harder to justify. Even with all the complications of what that might mean, that we've talked about. At what point do you think Michelle does the decision to not bring charges begin to actively hurt the DoJ's credibility? Well, I think as far as public opinion goes, if they do come up with the witness tampering charges and nothing happens or we have already put together a very strong case, there's already been grumbling in certain circles that Merrick Garland is weak or should be doing more than he is. I do think that at this point, they're already running the risk of having their reputation damaged among people who already, really wanted to see Trump go down. Now, as far as Republicans go, it would take a lot for them to be swayed enough to think that this is necessary. But I will go back to the witness tampering thing. This is something that resonates in political circles and is actually a kind of often an easier case to make than some of these other things. If they've got the goods on that and justice doesn't think that they need to indict, there will be questions that have to be answered. On the one hand, I think that there's an idea that these hearings, how many people are actually paying attention to them. What do people actually want to hear? People want to talk about inflation. But on the other hand, if you have the former president of the United States committing crimes and you do not go after the person who committed the crimes, what does that say? So if you're in democratic leadership, what do you think that the response should be from the Democratic Party? So if you're going into the midterms, there is just so much going on already. I mean, the roe versus wade stuff, the gun stuff, the inflation stuff, gas prices. I'm not sure that focusing on Trump, who's not on the ballot, and whoever enabled him in the Republican Party is actually a very good message, going into the midterms. I mean, obviously the report from the committee will not come out for a little while, who knows what the situation will be, who knows what the DoJ will do. But for now, going forward during the heat of all this campaigning, you know, you've got the primaries are wrapping up over the summer and you're going to roll into the fall with all of these kitchen table issues plus the culture war issues that I do think are just going to dominate for Democrats going forward. And I don't think that's necessarily the wrong approach based on what we kind of already know now from the hearings. And I think going into 2024, that will be a bigger issue. I just think the timing on the midterms is tricky for this. Plus, as noted, there is so much crazy going on right now that his motivating voters on both sides. So Brett, there was so much that happened yesterday that I think we've only scratched the surface in our time. Is there anything else that stood out to you that you want to mention? You know, it's so funny. I had written an entirely different column yesterday is my column writing day. And then I filed my column and started watching the testimony, and I remember thinking, oh my God. And I called up my editor and I said, I think I got a I think I got to write about this. What has been surprising and gratifying to me just in the immediate response to my column is how many conservatives I know who shall remain nameless and who have been chiding me for my anti Trump stances over the years. Sent me slightly sheepish notes of ascent and agreement. Now, this is purely anecdotal, but people who I knew had been on Trump's side for a very long time and who were prepared to overlook January 6th at the event that Trump decided to run again seemed to be changing their minds. And again, you know, sample size is small. But I took it as very encouraging. Okay. Well, Brett Michelle, thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it. Thanks, Jane. Thank you. Brett Stevens is an opinion columnist for The New York Times. Michelle coddle is a writer for The New York Times editorial board. The argument is the production of New York Times opinion. It's produced by Phoebe, at least Guterres and Pasha jarva. Edited by Alison burjak and Annabel bacon. With original music by Isaac Jones and pat mccusker. Mixing by pat mccusker. Fact checking by Kate Sinclair, Mary march locker and Michelle Harris. Audience strategy by Shannon busta with editorial support from Christina Samuels. Our executive producer is Irene Noguchi..
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"And I suspect it's going to succeed. Yeah, somebody's going to have to provide him an off ramp, because he's never going to have the self awareness, plus the willingness to leave the stage. I mean, there's a question of whether he'll ever acknowledge that his moment is over. Somebody is going to have to provide him a soft landing that really flatters his ego in just the way that Brett's talking about. I think Trump aside because as I said before, I think Trump believes that it's January 5th, 2021, will continue to believe that for the rest of his life. So he's not going to get to a red line, but Brett, how does the Republican Party come out of this? Do you think after what we've heard? Is there still a world in which they'd nominate Trump for president? I think there is. Yeah, of course. And you know, I have so underestimated Trump for so long that I have to draw the lesson that moments to me that seem like tipping points. I mean, I thought his slur against John McCain was a tipping point back in 2015 and shows you what I know about politics or at least about this particular movement. Difference here is that Trump previously always communicated at some visceral level the message that he was a winner. That's not the case anymore. The committee made sure to point out Hutchinson's other connections on the hill. As you mentioned, she interned for Ted Cruz and Steve scalise. This is someone who's known to Republicans in Congress and trusted. Does her credibility move the needle for them and for other GOP members? Yeah, I think it's essential. I mean, look, she's quite young. She was an intern. She wasn't a staff member for scalise and for cruise, but she was at Meadows right hand. She was never someone who walked away from team Trump until now. She wasn't really well known by anyone until now, but I think they're going to have a very hard time attacking her credibility unless she has said something that is easily disproved. I mean, that's a possibility that has to be taken into account, but assuming that that's not the case. Her testimony is going to stand. It's going to weigh very heavily on other Republicans. Now, it's funny to say this, but it wasn't just Trump who came off poorly. We saw that Roger Stone and Mike Flynn did as well. The committee played some truly weird deposition footage of Flynn pleading the 5th when asked if he thought the violence of the capitol was justified. And Hutchinson testified that her boss, Mark Meadows, knew that the threat of violence existed a few days before the capitol riots, but still did nothing. According to her, he said things might get real real bad on January 6th. He's refused to cooperate with the committee. Do you think that there's a possibility of more indictments or the possibility of hearing testimony from them? I mean, at this point, it looks like they're so complicit or so deeply dug in to what happened, that it's hard to imagine that they would come forward. Unless somebody finds a leverage point. I mean, I've been dealing with Mark Meadows for a hundred years, it feels like since right around the time he took over the freedom caucus back when he was threatening John Boehner's speaker, those sorts of things. Even now, I find it breathtaking how far he has fallen, that he has become so sucked into this cult that he would sit around as people are talking about that Mike Pence was in real physical danger on January 6th and just be like, eh, you know, a president thinks he deserves it. I mean, that's kind of nuts. So I don't know that minus some kind of serious leverage point that the committee has, that they're going to get him to step forward at this point. I would love to be wrong. But at some point they broke him and others like him. Hutchinson has called Meadows veracity into questions. So he has, if he continues to refuse to testify, he validates her testimony. Of course, if he does testify, he's doing so under oath and that runs the risk of perjury. So it'll be interesting to see what he chooses to do. And these are people who sought pardons. They already knew that what they had done would not reflect well on them. They were nervous enough to really promptly ask for some pardons. So it's hard to imagine that under oath there's anything they could say. That would make them look better or put them in less legal jeopardy unless somebody's cutting a serious deal with the Justice Department. Yeah, this whole thing is like a Shakespearean tragedy written about noxious morons. Although podcast listeners, this is Ira Glass, the host of this American life. Maybe you know our show. Maybe you don't. 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WTOP
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"The latest witness call by the January 6th committee was Cassidy Hutchinson and aid or former aide to Mark Meadows, who was the chief of staff under Trump. And Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony was immediately hailed by the media. And in fact, even by some on the right, I mean, I'm thinking of Andy McCarthy at national review, very compelling Brett bear, of course, yes, he was completely convinced completely on board. Crushing testimony and so on in the media, of course, was hailing this. She's sort of the latest savior. On the supposedly with the Republican tag. This was part of the game. You bring in people who are nominally Republican, you say, look, even a Republican says. And she put out a whole bunch of stuff. I mean, a good bit of it was just hearsay things that she had heard of things that she had been told. But it was sufficiently salacious, sufficiently bombshell ish that the media glommed right onto them, specifically two things. One is it supposedly at one point Trump got so upset, upset when Barr told him that he had lost the election that he flung his food, presumably a hamburger, Trump's favorite, up against the wall, leaving some ketchup on the wall and Cassidy Hutchinson, I had to clean it up. Now, when I first heard this, I literally chuckled because first of all, it's hard for me to see Trump doing that, but you know what, to be honest, if an election was stolen from me under my nose, I would be a little irate. I don't think I'd have thrown a burger against the wall. I think I like burgers too much, but my comment on Twitter was, do we have the full story on this if Trump really threw the burger and fell on the ground? Did Bill Barr like reach down and eat it? Hard for me to see Bill Barr turning down a burger. And but in any event, Trump, of course, was extremely scornful and Trump makes the comment on truth social. He goes, why would she have to clean it up? First of all, she does she was not a member of my staff. He goes, I don't even know who she was. And then the supposedly the big bombshell was an anecdote and incident about Trump who wanted to go to the capitol. On January 6th and was so apparently enraged that the Secret Service was reluctant to take him that he reached over and tried to grab the steering wheel of the car. Now at first people were like, I think Cassidy Hutchinson may even have said it. This was actually the so called the beast, the big limousine, the Trump limousine. And if that was the case, this would be flat out impossible. Apparently, Trump was not in that car. He was in an SUV, but again, he's in the back seat. So the idea that he's able to somehow lunge forward, I want to grab the steering wheel and drive the car from the back seat. No, no, this is preposterous. This is absurd. And it's so absurd that it couldn't have happened, and when something couldn't have happened, you can be safe and concluding that it didn't happen. And sure enough, the driver of the vehicle and the Secret Service agent in charge have now contacted ABC and NBC and CBS and CNN and said the same thing. This did not happen. We are, in fact, happy to testify under oath that this did not occur. Now, frankly, to Cassidy Hutchinson's in her defense, she didn't say she knew for a fact she didn't say she was there. She said she was told. But you would think the January 6th committee that's putting this kind of bombshell evidence on national TV for the country would have checked it out. Who told you? Let's go talk to that guy to see if he was there. And if it happened, evidently the January 6th commission was so impressed, it was so enraptured, so taken by what she said. They didn't even bother to check. They're like, we better just put this out because we know the media is going to run with it. In fact, they did. And now it turns out that and this happens in any situation where you give a long testimony and you tell one brazen lie. And the lie is destroyed it. Well, it calls into question everything you said. And so not only is Cassidy's Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony now discredited, but to some degree, so is the January 6th committee, which was really responsible for promulgating this big lie. Some of us wish we could rewind the clock when it comes to our health exercising climbing stairs all the stuff young people take for granted, these are things that have to stop just because you age need that you have to just endure patiently the normal aging aches and pains. Now there's a 100% drug free solution. It's called relief factor. Relief act of supports your body's fight against inflammation that's a source of aches and pains. The vast majority of people who try relief actor love it, they order more because it works for them. W is excited. She finally gets to do her bar exercise class. Now that she's alleviated her frozen shoulder, thanks to relief factors. She knows if she stops taking it, well, the pain could come right back, so she's like, I don't want to be without this again..
WTOP
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"The top stories we're following for you on WTO P, the Secret Service plans to respond to the January 6th committee after testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson yesterday. The former White House aide told the panel that the agent that an agent told her that former president Trump became irate in his vehicle when he was told that he couldn't go to the U.S. capitol during the insurrection. But a source tells CBS News that Trump never assaulted an agent and never lunged for the steering wheel as Hutchinson testified. It's been a blockbuster session for the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court so far, and it isn't over yet. Four more decisions remain for this term, and they could be announced this morning. They include the Biden administration. This is desire to terminate the Trump era border policy known as remain in Mexico. Stay with WTO for more on these stories and just minutes. 9 17 here in two prominent Republicans who are also 2020 election deniers lost their bids for public office in Colorado, those losses in yesterday's primary elections as a setback for the movement to install backers of former president Trump's false claim of election fraud. In Utah, senator Mike Lee though won his bid for the Republican nomination for Senate, fending off a tax from two challengers who had criticized him for his loyalty to the former president. In New York incumbent Kathy hochul won the democratic nomination for governor, Lee zeldin, won the Republican nomination defeating Andrew Giuliani, the son of Rudy Giuliani. Coming up in money news. Looks like a quiet start to trading this morning. Some weekend flyers will get a break on a canceled flight. I'm Jeff cable. It's 9 18. And back to Jack Taylor now on the traffic