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Fresh update on "casey" discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ 24 Hour News
"It is time for sports. There's no place like home. That's what Dorothy said. But for the Detroit Tigers, there's been no place like the road. After days away from playing at all. The Tigers go into Pittsburgh and sweep aside the Pirates after three straight games, winning Sunday's contest to tow one behind terrific pitching and just enough offense. The victory improves Detroit baseball to eight and five. Now Manager Ron Gardenhire discussed what it means at this point in the season. Think we're fixing to run into a White Sox team? That's a really good baseball team. You know, you started kind of judging where you're at. When you face a team like the whiteys and older. They're pretty good baseball team, So we'll see where we're at against those guys. But I like what we have. I like the attitude. I like the way it fills in the dugout. And we'll see. We'll see where we go from there. This next series that guard he mentioned. We'll see Michael former finally back on the mound and will take on Dallas Chi Kel at Comerica Park Monday night. The impressive record of the Tigers has them second in the division in just 1/2 game behind the 10 and six Twins by win percentage. Detroit also has the best road record in the American League at 5 to 1. And yes, if he expanded playoff began today, the Tigers would be in Chris Volare. W W J NEWS RADIO 9 50 Kevin Harvick completed a doubleheader sweep it Michigan International Speedway, holding off Denny Hamlin today in the NASCAR Cup series race in Brooklyn after bread Keselowski crashed early in the final stage. Does allows keeping his second yesterday's race. No native born Michigan driver has ever won at M S Kozlovsky from Rochester Hills. When the PGA Championship leaderboard packed with household names like Dustin Johnson and Brooks kept it felt like another superstar would add to their major championship collection. But The winner of the PGA Championship. TPC Harding Park, 23 year old Colin Morikawa, 23 year old had one previously just twice on tour Englishman Paul Casey, finishing seconds and 11 under. We checked sports at 15 and 45 past each hour to the streets and skies, traffic and weather together in 75 seconds. Let's say you just bought a house. Bad news is you're one step closer.
DJ takes third-round lead at PGA Championship
"Will have a major championship awarded here's Dan Reardon for the third day in a row, the overnight leader with 102nd PGA Championship. Is a new name heading into today's final round of Harding Park in San Francisco. Former U. S Open champion Dustin Johnson holds the lead at nine under Poor Johnson found success on the Greens on Saturday and posted a 565 toe lied to rookie study. Scheffler by one shot. Scheffler, who also turned in a 65 on Saturday, would be the first player since Sean McKeel to make the PGA their first tour win and the first since John Daly in 1992 to do it as a rookie, Cameron champ and Colon Marika will be the second to last group out champ, also a stroke back at minus eight. Morikawa at minus seven, Along with Paul Casey and two time PGA Champion Brooks kept Tiger Woods will have to wait if he has to add to his major wins. Total Woods with the 72 on Saturday is plus two for the tournament, one stroke better than ST Louis and Adam Long covering the PGA
Fresh update on "casey" discussed on CBS Sports Radio
"Sports flash. Gresh 23 year old Colin Morikawa when his first career PGA Championship, winning it Harding Park, TPC in San Francisco. He finished 13 under two shots Better And Paul Casey from work. How is third Career PGA Tour victory in 27 pro starts, He shot a final round six under 64 including a big ego. On 16 or there continues to be a feeling there might not be a college football season this fall. And now comes word there was an emergency meeting of the commissioners of the Power Five conferences. About that today, According to multiple reports,.
China sentences fourth Canadian to death on drug charges
"Gonna be a great show on Sunday. Don't looking forward to it. NBC NEWS Capitol Hill correspondent Casey Hunt with US 7 53 now China has sentenced to fourth Canadian citizen to death on drug charges in less than two years after a sharp
Fresh "Casey" from KNX Programming
"New brief seven California is only 24 hour local losing traffic station. Can IX INSEVENTY News radio? Good evening. I'm Jan Stevens. Can IX in depth continues in just a couple minutes. First, Let's take a look at our top local stories of Inter County Church was not cited today for define a judge's order and holding three large indoor church services. Godspeed, Calvary Chapel in Newbury Park was packed. Hugs were plenty face masks were few and social distancing was non existent. Hello? Absolutely safe. Incidentally, we've had people come as Faras, Tennessee today from Texas has to Rob McCoy was ordered by a court to stop holding indoor services, which he's done since May in defiance of public health orders. McCoy told Kay and exits their constitutional right to worship how they want. They're violating our desire to worship God and really are command and we haven't had one case reported by any congregant of a covert case in our church. Not one and we've been open since May. There were some protesters here earlier in the day, but they cleared out by mid afternoon. There was no police within sight in Newbury Park, Emily Valdas K next 10 70 news radio L. A Native column or Kali emerged from across. Outted leaderboard to take his first major championship at Harding Park in San Francisco, The 23 year old who went toe La Kenyatta High School shot a final round six under par 64 to win the PGA Championship by two shots over Dustin Johnson and Paul Casey. He spoke afterwards with CBS Sports. It's been a life goal obviously is a little kid. Watching everyone grow up all these professionals and this is what I've always wanted. Teo, Um I felt very comfortable from the start. You know, as an amateur Junior golfer turning.
Pikmin 3 Deluxe and Our Nintendo Backlogs
"My Name Is Casey Fritos I'm your host, and this week I am joined by Brian Tahoe. Hi Everyone Seth macy. And Logan. Plants. And I just wanted to mention that Logan Plant has now been working as production assistant for the last year. So thank you so much for everything that you've done for us. We super appreciate it and we welcome you on the show this week. It's been an awesome year of NBC. Got This GIG last August starting my senior year of College McMahon. Twenty. It's GONNA be year. It's going to be the best year for me. At prediction was was very untrue, but I've loved working on NBC. Well, we did get to do a thing that we do everybody who's worked with gene for year, which is broken your house in spray painted the logo on your shirt. So yeah. Yeah, got. Bad. It's still drying right here. Comfortable. I Apologize. But Hey guys so much for joining me this week. Let's start off by talking about the big news, which actually Nintendo finally decided to reveal something before recorded. So I'm very grateful for that thanking Intendo, but we finally known antennas next scheduled release. It will be picked three deluxe out on Astra with. For Fifty, nine, ninety, nine. No. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So You Brian, we're your pigment fan I look pick. Yeah, you. excited. Yeah, yes. Yes. Yes. I, am I'm all for. Every last great. We you exclusive game to no longer be that and to be brought to a platform where millions more people can enjoy it. And I've picked threes really fun. It's really good game. What I'm a little annoyed about with this is that. They. D listed the version. Basically, the exact moment that they announced this version and the version was on was selling for twenty dollars. So. That's kind of A. Weird situation. 'cause like. They're. They're basically telling their fans like if. If you have access to switch, this is where you'll have to play this game because you won't be able to get this anywhere else for cheaper. And also that the it's it's three times the price. Now, they're adding stuff to it, which obviously, we'll get into a, but yet my gut reaction was gay pigment three, and then also boo to the price of then also, you're totally going to pay that price, get pigment three under switch. So yeah, you're totally right. The an I also wanted to mention that we're bringing up the kind of skis tactic of taking it off the we shop. You. Guys noticed that all of the the vouchers that people bought I think it was, it was one hundred dollars for for two vouchers, one voucher per game, and they expired on July thirty first, which is right. Before they made this announcement I know at least one person in our podcast forums on facebook mentioned that they actually called Nintendo customer service and asked for the. Vouchers to get an extension and they granted him the extension by another year. It is now too late to do that. Ari. Or maybe not maybe if you have expired vouchers sitting around, you can call customer service and have them I'm so sorry, Nintendo customer service workers. You guys get a flux of collars because of this, but hey, it's worth a shot right especially if you haven't used them yet. But that was kind of embarrassed about this whole thing to like you mentioned, the vouchers are to one hundred bucks, which means if you buy, you know sixty bucks a sixty dollar game you're saving. Ten Bucks per game, which is a great deal. But you. They stopped selling them like a year ago. Yesterday, basically, two days ago, and with the expiration, you could put them towards stuff that was available for preorder. But because Pittman three wasn't available for preorder. You couldn't put it towards that Nintendo has been pretty quiet about. Announcing Twenty Twenty lineup arrested twenty twenty WANNA and so. You didn't really have anywhere to put that money and then. They retire those vouchers in three days. Later, there were like Pittman three and so A. Libertarian Carriers I. Wish I'd have panned out a little bit better. Yeah not crazy about I will. I would have been more forgiving if they announced it like the day, the vouchers expired because then at least people would be like I, have to spend it on this. Now, I mean, it still would have been a little bit questionable, but not nearly as various as this was i. don't Know Logan Seth? Did you guys by those doctors? No, I. Didn't I thought. It was I would just spend the extra ten bucks. I'm not really a digital player I mostly get physical stuff, but I thought another weird thing about it is like a third of the Games. You could get with voucher dollars. You weren't even saving anything on a bunch of the options. So that was another kind of weird part about the voucher system. I was just never onboard with the whole thing. You. No I didn't buy the batches. I. Actually Forgot
Fresh update on "casey" discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ 24 Hour News
"This season, but it's we're from WW Chris Volare great weekend out in Pittsburgh coming into Sunday with two straight victories in hand, the Tigers that just enough to break out the brooms in Pittsburgh, one ball two strikes, bases empty. Two outs, the pitch swing and a miss. He got him on strikes and the Tigers sweep the Pirates in Pittsburgh. Joey men is works a 12 3/9 with two strikeouts. A big clutch it from Miguel Cabrera in the eighth inning breaks the 11 time After two slugfest. The pitcher's duel led by Spencer Turnbull's seven strong innings are final score in Pittsburgh. Detroit Tigers sweep the Pirates. We're the 21 win Dan Dickerson's final call on 97 1 the ticket via the Tigers radio network Turnbull terrific Miguel Cabrera with a game winning R B I single with two outs in the eighth. And now 18 and five record for Detroit as they prepare for a Siri's against the White Sox back at Comerica Park Afterwards. Manager Ron Gardenhire did say that Jacoby Jones is now day today after dealing with an abdominal injury for days. Michael Fulmer will be the next up in the rotation to take on the socks on Monday night. Chris Volare W W. J NEWS Radio 9 50 Kevin Harvick completed a doubleheader sweep it Michigan International Speedway today, holding off Denny Hamlin. This comes after Penske teammates bread Keselowski from Rochester Hills and Ryan Blaney crashed early in the final stage. Does allows keeping his second yesterday's race. No native born Michigan driver has ever won at M S Colin Mori Cow or the 23 year old hitting this shot in his life on number 16 avoiding disaster in route to a six under final round at TPC Harding Park in San Francisco, winning his first ever major claiming the PGA Championship title. 23 year old had previously won twice on tour to go along with a pair of runner up finishes. Speaking of runner up Englishman Paul Casey finished second at 11 under Sports at 15 and 45 past each hour to the streets and skies, Traffic and weather together is next. Let's say you just bought a house. Bad news is you're one step.
French President Emmanuel Macron has arrived in Lebanon to offer support after massive explosion
"There is still a search for the missing in Lebanon two days after the massive explosion, which killed at least 135 people and injured more than 5000 French president Emmanuel Macron arriving in Beirut with a message of solidarity, although he's also calling for urgent changes to the way Lebanon is run. Saying if reforms are not made, the country will continue to suffer. Lebanon is a former French colony. Lebanese officials of blaming the disaster on a huge stockpile of explosive material at Beirut's
Fresh update on "casey" discussed on WBBM Programming
"And is missing from his home in the 1400 block of West Greenleaf Avenue. And Israeli jewelry company is making what it says is the world's most expensive Corona virus. Facemask $1.5 million. It's gold face covering and crusted with 3600 diamonds. The custom ordered mask will be fitted with an and 99 filter and will weigh nearly 100 times a typical surgical mask. The jewelry firm says that the mask was ordered by AH, wealthy Chinese businessman living in the U. S. Nobody. BBM news time, 8 46 Say it's time for sports here with that Dave Corner, a storybook ending to the PGA Championship at Harding Park in San Francisco, California and Colin Moore, a cow wins the event, 13 under par two shots better than Paul Casey and Dustin Johnson. Three better than a number of golfers, including Tony Fee Now and Jason Day. Morikawa, in just his second major gets his first major victory to huge shots for more a cow. Help get it done for him. There was a tee shot on the par for 16 that went to seven feet from the hole. He made the putt for an eagle to and at that point, had moved to 13 under par a couple of holes earlier at 14. He chips in for a birdie that put him at minus 11 and he emerged the leader there after a number of golfers, including more a cowl were 10 under. So Colin Moore a cow. A 23 years old, attended the University of California. He wins the first of golf's majors in 2020 onto baseball. First White Sox player moves Pitcher Drew Anderson, who got hit hard in his relief outing on Saturday, designated for assignment in pitcher Jose Ruiz called up from the Schomburg Training facility, and outfielder Luis Posada, who was Designated for assignment by the White Sox earlier in the week, picked up by the Giants for cash considerations with sports on your home of the Bears. Dave current Ernie's Radio, 7 81 5.9 FM on the White Sox are tied with Cleveland 33 in the eighth. W BBM NEWS time. 8 48 traffic.
Anthony Davis Has Room to Grow
"GonNa Focus on the Lakers, which as an editor is near and dear to my heart because sharks picked the biggest red meat team on on on the table here. But they've been really impressive with us are there to one and Anthony Davis looks like probably the best player in the bubble thus far chunks. Why don't you leaders us through some of the things that have been happening with Lakers why think for the record this is called the impossibly good-looking persons corner just clarify. For. Their how dare sir? Okay so we're looking at the Lakers thing to me that's jumped out in the first three games is how they're playing when Anthony Davis playing without Lebron on. So that was been their biggest problem. All season is those non Lebron ad minutes because he idea was. Okay. If you have a D- then Lebron can rest he can get. His breaking it as time off, and they'll still be fine. But before the restart when eighty was out of the Ron, he was minus three and five, hundred, six, hundred minutes as those are important minutes Lakers have to win in the restart I mean obviously is a very small sample size but who cares where we're doing podcasts in the restart their plus night. Eighties playing without Lebron. That's just a massive flip on their whole situation and to me watching those minutes was set out to me I think number one. Not Having region Rondo. I think that really kind of low key killed their team because when rondos playing he has to have the ball right like Rondo can't play off the ball Swiss hole in the ball he's not really a threat to score someone's really guarding him and then on defense that giving you much either so like Alex the numbers when ad and Rondo without Lebron it was minus five and without Rondo they're playing Caruso and waiters with a d the floor is spread and the thing. Anthony. Davis. You don't need a traditional point guard Anthony, Davis give eighty the ball in the mid postals kill people right? He gets the ball then it kicks shooter instead of the Rondo. So it's like ADP without Rondo back great and the other thing too is eighty at the five. So they're going eighty Kuzma than like Greener Casey Caruso waiters whatever. Eighty s numbers at the five the year are insane. They're absolutely ridiculous. So cab. Looking at that with no Devellano Dwight Eighty has a usage of twenty eight shooting of Sixty six point six. Now base that means in English as eighties in the ball, like he's hardener Jaanus and he's been the most efficient player in the league. So if looking at those two numbers, there's only been one player in NBA history that had to be that efficient at that. High usage not staff like five years ago. So basically, when eighties at the five, he does a established about shooting threes he's basically scoring at will every single time I think long story short eighty more room to grow I. Think we're seeing that right now like leading a d. plan space given him the ball he's got levels still the go to get into them right now. Yeah I. So the biggest thing off of that, which was great I just wonder if their margin for error is too thin right now obviously the Lakers have been incredible. So let's get that caveat out of the way I think probably favorite if not among the favorites for the title. People like to remind us on the group Chat specifically Chris Because I don't think sharks was. One I remember that yeah. Where we pretty much we troll the Lakers after their first loss of the season and. Venture like the succeed but clearly, they've they've far exceeded those expectations. Great. Please don't ask me. But I do wonder as bad as Rondo has been at times. As much as Bradley is the fifth most important guy on that starting lineup at times I do wonder if the margin for error is a little bit more thin and you are relying on the cruise of the world on the Casey Visa, the world more than you would like to my wrong rob now I mean I'm I'm pretty compelled by this whole situation that sharks laid out like the idea of shifting some of those pieces around and unlocking ad in a different way like makes logical sense to me given his skill set this is. The Guy, who can you know Kevin O'Connor talked in in the restart this week about how? Bam. Out of Bio Converts Defenses Ad in the mid post has a similar effect where if you clear out, you give him space and a straight line drive past almost any big in the league like that's such a powerful thing that there should be a way to orient pieces around that. Make Sense I. Think I get skeptical is in that margin for error and it's in, you know if you look at kind of the core of these lineups. AD and CAL Kuzma, and Alice Caruso or kind of the three man anchor of it and in around that, there's a revolving door of guards. You got some Danny Green minutes you get some dion waiters minutes he gets JR Smith gets in Casey ep you got whoever they cobbled together in that minute in the rotation at those guys scare the hell out of me a little bit and I think you know when you flashback to eighty as a Pelican and where he was some of where they fell apart without drew. Holiday on the floor without kind of more traditional point guards on the floor which just not having competent entry passers not having guys who could get a d. the ball in positions to score, which is it seems like such an easy thing. But the thing I don't trust dion waiters to do but it is a thing. Maybe I do trust Danny Green to do it. You know like some of these more professional veteran level guys like that distinction I think is an important one and probably the difference between bubble seating. Games bubble playoff games, right where you're getting Jr's and the demons at least lower in the pecking order if not out of the rotation on a regular basis entirely, and then you're looking at these minutes where it's you know, Danny Green Casey P. and those guys and cannot work I. Think I. Think there's a chance that it does but I do get a little bit suspect just in the sense that once playoff defenses are really keying in on what this lineup look like and how it works what does that? Mean deep because you know Jaanus has had that scrutiny in terms of a big who handles the ball who's creating for space lineups like we know what that looks like in defense is know what that looks like defensive kind of just been dealing with these Lakers lineups without Lebron floor all year haven't had a lot of trouble with them, but they haven't hammered them either in terms of the the mechanics of how they work. If this starts working, then you invite that level of
MLB Teams deal with staying sharp during virus-induced layoffs
"Miami Marlins four to Nothing last night. Back from an eight day Corona virus induced hiatus. The Miami Marlins found enough power and pitching within their vastly overhauled roster to beat the birds. Miami put up a whopping 18 players on the injured list and showed up with an equal number of replacements. Both teams meet again today. First Pitch 505 Doing right
Democrats and Republicans remain divided on enhanced unemployment benefits
"In Washington, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin telling Senate Republicans that negotiations are no closer to a Corona virus relief deal than they were last week. He's putting the blame on congressional Democrats Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer. They're leading the talks last Friday. Of course, that's $600 a week federal enhancement to state unemployment benefits it expired. Other Republicans emerging from today's briefing with the Treasury secretary and White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, saying it appears the bipartisan negotiations are now at a stalemate. CBS NEWS Congressional correspondent Nancy Court is with this question to Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell. In a variety of proposals. But at this point what do you believe the consensus Senate Republican view is on how large the federal unemployment insurance benefits should be per week and how long it should last. Well, I think I've made it very clear for some time. Now. If you're looking for total consensus among Republican senators, you're not going to find it, so we do have divisions about what to do. What we're hoping for. Here is a bipartisan proposal negotiated by the president of the stage and his team who can sign a bill into law and Democratic majority in the House that can appeal to a significant percentage of Republicans in the House and Senate. That's where we are on the unemployment issue. We all know it needs to be solved. We don't want the exploration to continue what we've suggested that Short term fixes. Others have indicated they've objected to that a better outcome would be to get to a total solution sooner rather than later. And that's what I am encouraging everyone to do on both sides. Part of the challenge with this negotiation that Negotiators know what the Democratic negotiating position is, but it's unclear what the Republican position is. It's no, that's not a big challenge at all. I'm not anticipating 100 nothing vote in the Senate. This time. I said that in the very beginning, I said it when we laid down our trillion dollar heels. I don't think we're gonna have A total consensus in this round. The atmosphere is much more partisan than it was back in March and April that much closer to the election. So I don't think the definition of success here is whether we have a unanimous vote. I think the definition successes is the product. Something that will actually make a difference. And yet part of the problem is we hear from other Senate Republicans, including Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Rand Paul of Kentucky, saying that they do not support the price tag for the Koven 19 2nd round of relief package is more from today's briefing with reporters, NBC's Casey Hunt and Senator Mitch McConnell. Nancy Pelosi, that House speaker seems to have suggested that $600 per week for federal benefits is for red Line. Do you think a bill with that amount of money for unemployment could pass the Senate if the president were to say he wants that, too? I think I'm pretty safe to say that there are plenty of Republicans in the Senate who may not vote for a package if that's where it ends up, But we know this is going to be a negotiated settlement. I just said it's not going Produce a Kumbaya moment like we had in March or April where everybody voted. Aye, but the American people in the end I need help. And wherever this thing settles between President United States and his team have to sign it into law and the Democrat not insignificant minority in the Senate and majority in the house is something I'm prepared to support even if I have some problems. With certain
4 People Shot in Baltimore Overnight
"Shot in the early hours of yesterday in Baltimore, 19 year old hospitalized shortly before midnight has to be shot on East Eager Street after midnight to victim's age 22 23. Injuries from a double shooting in southwest Baltimore, 22 year old Shawn the bag, 23 year old leg, lastly, a 21 year old and shot in the leg, around 1:30 a.m. On York Road, None of the Victimsnames were released. Sports in your
Marijuana in California: How the state's legalization of weed has not destroyed the black market
"For decades, pot farmers have hauled their weed on this winding, remote road. A lot of it grown on family farms like Casey O'Neil's. They've been here since the seventies. He's he has just 45 marijuana plants. He calls them his ladies and their tucked between his rose of vegetables all the canvas in this row Strawberry Valley. Good show. O'Neill, who spent time in jail for cultivating marijuana before it was legal, was one of the first to get a license after Prop 64 past. I grow cannabis because I really love it. I like to consume it. I like to be around it. It's something that Provides my being and consciousness with tremendous love and support. But his being in consciousness is getting strangled by red tape and a laundry list of requirements that don't make sense to growers like weighing marijuana leaves. Which is the part of the plan. You don't smoke and can't get you high. I must take all of the leaf that comes off the plant. I must weigh it. I must record the weight and I must put it in a locked compost facility, so it's just side. Big brother. The worry with believes that it's his hand smoke, believe. Why does it matter? Exactly Then there's the cost of operating legally a major reason, O'Neill says. Farmers he knows have decided to keep growing and selling marijuana illegally. For most people out here, the opportunity to participate does not exist the barriers to entry or too high. Costs are too high. The skill sets are too low. The flip side of it is, people are not going to jail for cannabis. And what's the cost to you? So when you factor in consulting fees You know, I just did a back of the napkin calculation. And over the last 34 years, I'm well over 50,000 into it $50,000 for white permits for permits for consulting $2500 a year for the Waterboard discharge permit. It's $750 a year for the pond permit. It's 1350 application fee to the county, plus another 6 75 when they actually give you the permit annually. Farm, this tiny for the smallest farm that there is, and that's one of the problems. Is that what does that do Your profits? What profits you not make any money right now? So where's the money being made in California? Turns out in the very place legalization was supposed to destroy the black market, which often operates out of storefronts like this in strip malls around the state. Susan listen, shops don't have to pay for state and local permits and conceal marijuana much cheaper because they don't charge customers marijuana taxes, which could reach as high as 45%. So it's cheaper and easier to buy pot on the black market, which is three times larger than the legal one. Unlike other industries, we have this kind of in the shadows unspoken about competitors, right and So it's like it's not like California's fully raging, fully legal really were building to fully regulated state, but we're not. We're certainly not there yet
Big tech CEOs testify before Congress
"So, this hearing just going to say it, it was six hours of chaos. So. So many things like individual moments of pure chaos happened this hearing. But because every member of Congress was only given five minutes to ask the questions in and they moved on, no one could process the moments of cash. So here are some things that happened during this hearing. Jeff. bezos just started eating nuts on his call. That was just a thing that you started snacking for the first ninety minutes. It appears that basis had tech issues was operating in some kind of delay. So we didn't hear from him. They just answer any questions and they'd take a ten minute break Jeff. bezos could fix his computer. Amazing. Jim Jordan, who McKenna pointed out. On the show last week is always sort of chaos element. Try to talk over several members of Congress got yelled to put his mass back on floated. Just elaborate conspiracy theories. was when I say was chaos I. Don't know if there's any other way to describe it. I. Think that led a lot of people to think the hearing itself didn't accomplish its goals, but I think in many ways it did. But Kennedy you WanNa Kinda go through what the committee was trying to accomplish the themes they were pointed at in. How hearing played out, right. So okay. First off. Harkening back to last week I mentioned Jim. Jordan's mountain dew obsession. Definitely drink a handful those throughout the hearing I took notes in screen shots. So, I, called it. But regardless of their pores soda choices, there were a lot of lawmakers who definitely did their homework and I think that was really apparent throughout the entire hearing and when I look at. The picture that they tried to paint I think that became really clear in chairman Sicily's opening statements. So this is the guy who liked. And spearheaded the entire investigation from the beginning, and in those opening statements, he pointed out that yeah Apple Amazon Google facebook. There are different in a lot of ways and they exhibit anticompetitive behaviors potentially allegedly and a lot of different ways. But what they tried to pull together and was a story, and it's really hard to tell a story and five minute fragments. But what happened yesterday was Sicily. Ni, and a lot of the Democrats on the Committee wanted to point out that these companies they become bottlenecks for distribution whether that's information or just like APP stores marketplace's they control what gets distributed in how what was really key to the investigation was how? How they survey competitors. If you have so much control dominance over a market or a specific part of the tech industry, you have a lot of insight into your competitors and you can do a lot of dangerous things with that, and then lastly, after that dominance has gained, it's how they abuse it. Right? How they abuse it to make harder for small businesses in competitors and I think that's exactly what Cellini pointed out in the beginning and I think they did a poor job that storytelling throughout the process. But I think that's also our job. Right is to pull that evidence together and tell that story for them in a way that isn't like. Yes, no yelling at CEOS and like stopping them and I think by getting that in the evidentiary record doing all this questioning, I think they really did achieve their goal in the end. Yeah. I mean, I think the thing that happened sort of next to the hearing was that they released a bunch of documents from these one point, three, million documents of clutch. Over the past year, they released pretty targeted selection documents for every company showing some of this stuff, Casey, I wrote a story about. facebook. INSTAGRAM. My I'm going to frame this email or mark Zuckerberg. Literally one sentence, no period. The Andrew says I need to figure out. I'M GONNA buy instagram like I would love to just be in a place were sending that email like super casually like I got this thing to figure out and it's not like am I gonNa buy the model of the car. It's like instagram. I've been thinking of the text messages where so and so says that Mark Zuckerberg's didn't go destroy mode on instagram ever since they got that up. Case she this to Kevin and right that text was. Yes. Well, it was Kevin. System was talking to an investor and Kevin said to the investor. If we don't sell well, mark, go into destroy mode on us and the investor side probably. Of course, stray casual. So there's just a lot of documents and I think one of the functions of hearing was to get those documents into the official congressional record to make the CEO's account for them. That did not seem very successful to me. Is like a takeaway people should have from this hearing, right? No. I think a lot of people that go into these hearings are expecting like these big Gotcha moments and expecting like a lot of news and all this stuff. But it really, it wasn't oversight hearing. You know it wasn't. They didn't come. They came at this like in a report last earlier this week that they came out at as investigators. They didn't come at it to make a big show horse and pony show out of it, and yet I think the CEO's didn't. The record well enough to the extent that they could have. But there was definitely, I was expecting them to do a lot less evasion and I expected a lot less room probation with the documents, but it's just the process of a Congressional hearing. It's. It's hard to do that in a congressional hearing. But if you put those documents out there, you get the CEO's on the record a little bit who does excite this excites the FTC. J, and that's who can take this next and then it's also congress. You know they can't break up a tech company, but they can regulate going forward and it's those three key themes that I pointed out earlier that they could regulate. You know what I mean. They could legislate to forbid companies from surveying competitors and things like that, and that's where this goes. So the format of the hearing, every member and five minute chunks, it seemed very clear that the Democrats had some sort of coordinated evidentiary strategy, they would start and. And they would say, I, want to read this email to you. What did you mean by this email and then Jeff bezos would say something like I have. No idea is on works. I. Was real pattern that developed was basis really not doing or claiming he definitely knows claiming not really no way Wayne is under the thing they did or they would ask sooner Pichai about the very granular add deal google made by an ad product, and soon I, would say I'll get back to you, which is basically all responses. So the Democrats seemed like they were coordinated to move through their documents. The Republicans seem to be doing something else that also seem coordinated intentional, but what was their focus because that seemed clear split my takeaway from Jim Jordan who? We got into earlier, he he was interviewing. As if they were all Jack Dorsey. And as we talked about like, yeah, he invited Jack Dorsey to testify, but he doesn't sit on the antidote subcommittees. Anything. He says, it just doesn't matter. So it sounded to me as if he prepared questions Jack Dorsey and then it was like, oh, he's not coming I'll ask Tim Cook the same questions. Another completely crazy moment that happened just seen by and five minute chunks is that. Represented Sensenbrenner from Wisconsin Dear Sweet Wisconsin. Definitely. Asked Mark Zuckerberg why the Donald Junior was banned from twitter and mark. Zuckerberg was happening on twitter facebook and there was just like a moment of confused silence, and then he tried to move on and that just sort of floated by in the river of chaos to tell you how much chaos there was kneeling. When you started to tell that story, I thought you were going to tell the story about when Jim Jordan asked him cook if the famous one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, Apple Super Bowl, AD was actually about twenty twenty cancel culture, which is another thing that really happened. I think that's out of context. He didn't ask him. He said clearly, this is. That's definitely what Steve Jobs was thinking IBM is canceled culture and Apple's going to break it with hammer and Jeff. Bezos said that social media is a nuance destruction machine and all this crazy stuff from that. It was a wild will that that particular question when Jim Jordan asked, do you support the cancel culture mov, you could see the CEOS like. 'cause they went in order. He asks them all in order. So First Tim Cook just like basically muttered nothing. Here's like I don't. I support speech whatever. The iphone a keyboard like that was his answer. Sooner per child also, just like muttered, right? He's like Google has always supported free expression Zuckerberg like saw the opportunity and took it and the forces of liberalism I rising I, and then basis was like I cannot. I cannot do in like went for it, and that was just totally insane moment. But it also seems like the Republicans were intentional to try to create their own moments where they were yelling at CEOS about bias on platforms is obviously something cover a. At. You were paying a lot of attention that case you're paying a lot of attention to it. Do you think that was effective in creating because you know there's like a parallel conservative Universe Jim? Jordan was on Tucker. Carlson. Last night like was that effective or d think that the CEO's were able to sort of tamp down on interesting the Tucker Carlson pointed out that Google and other companies are all big donors to Jim Jordan another folks. So that is a weird side, but I think it was actually besides the moment where they mixed up twitter with facebook I. Think this was much more effective off. Off Topic yelling about technology than we usually see like are genuinely issues that like they are upset about that, they could point to largely around like cove nineteen misinformation and they could at least like pick those topics and stick to them rather than kind of asking vague questions about like, why is my phone listening to me? Well, they're definitely asked questions about why are my campaign emails getting filtered by G mail? Yes. I should. I should mention that they have really and they have all of these cases where they ask about extremely specific one off incidents that anyone who has used social media knows happens constantly. And, then turn them into a sinister pattern. But I think they managed to come off as sounding more like they understood what they were talking about the unusual. I think that was a real theme of the hearing, Casey. What did you think of this sort of bias side show that occurred? Well, I mean the the idea that conservative voices are being suppressed is foundational to the conservative movement and is behind the rise of conservative talk radio. It was behind the rise of Fox News. Now that social media exists, we have seen it in this new form, but it is sort of being presented as extra, sinister and worthy of. Some sort of legislative intervention what frustrates me about it is that much more than newspapers or or cable news like Mark Zuckerberg Dorsey. These people benefit hugely from having all possible voices on their platform. None of them is incentivized to drive conservatives off their platform. What they are incentivized to do is have rules that make the place safe and welcoming. So that people want to hang out there and so to the extent that there are issues on the platform, they've largely come because these platforms have rules. And you know you would think that a bunch of free marketeers would realize that the alternative to the system that they're so mad about would be creating a new system, but they don't seem at all interested in doing that. So I just sort of dismissed all of them as charlatans I actually thought it was interesting that the opposite track came up, which was the Stop Hey for profit campaign I kind of wasn't expecting that. The representative Raskin I believe asked facebook. Basically, why aren't you kicking more hate speech off. I forget who else asked like look is the point that you're so big. You don't care about advertiser boycotts I. Mean, you know it will here. Here is a fact that the number one complaint that facebook gets from its users, the thing that users. About. FACEBOOK is that it removes too much content and so if you're running the place, you do have to take these complaints seriously in a way. Right? It might not be you know that you shadow band conservative whatever that even means on social network in twenty twenty. But the fact that you're removing content is really upsetting people. So you can't dismiss that idea entirely, but I still don't feel like we're having that intellectually honest conversation about it. So this was definitely I feel like you can connect the you control distribution. We're GONNA show the abuses of power narrative. We got other. Democrats. With the you control distribution. You're banning conservatives right like I. Think what's Sensenbrenner Again, cups and conservatives are consumers to is that people don't realize that like fifty percent of the population in many ways. But facebook has like famous conservatives working its highest levels Kevin. We last week, we're talking about Kevin Roose keeps sharing the list. List of the most engaged content from crowd tangle. It's all conservative content, and that's so problematic for facebook that they're. They're pushing back with other metrics and graphs of their own, making the facts just aren't there, but it doesn't seem to be convincing. Brett Kevin is being asked to recuse himself from facebook case because he's like best friends with facebook I, AP I wrote a column almost two years ago. Now, arguing that conservatives were trying to redefine. Any conservative identified person having any unwanted outcome on a social network, right? So bias is your name was higher than mine in search results. Bias is used suggested that I follow a Democrat and not a Republican right, and if you take action on your policies that apply to everyone against me a conservative that is biased against conservatives, right. So and by the way I have to say this has been hugely successful because we've talked about it. How many minutes now and the longer that these discussions. Discussions. Go on. They just sort of refi people's minds. The idea that there really is a vast conspiracy to silence conservative speech because he's networks are so big millions of conservatives are having experiences like this every day, and now there is an ideology that is basically a religion for them to attach to, which is although Silicon Valley liberals are out to get. Reason I wanted to talk about the conservative side show, which in many ways was a circus is it feels like the notion that we should be punitive to the companies or mad at the company's. Bipartisan, right we were. We were not looking at a hearing where the Democrats were on the attack. Republicans are saying we love. Apple. We're looking at hearing where they were. Everyone was mad. There are a couple of exceptions to that. There were a couple of I think sensenbrenner and a few other folks were like look we want to be clear. Big is not bad. We just WANNA make sure we're not punishing you for your success, but you were like almost entirely, right? Yeah. I. Mean I. think that's it's important to. To capture that mood like Jeff Bezos Mark Zuckerberg, Tim, Cook soon. Darpa, try they usually get to finish whatever sentence they start saying. Right. They're not used to being interrupted. Their thoughts are usually like you know they get to live in complete sentences and people take them seriously here in five in intervals, they were interrupted almost every time they started speaking to be told that they were wrong that they were filibuster at one point Sicily said stop thinking is for the questions. We can just assume they're all good questions. They. Were getting yelled at and they're going yell that about a variety of things that were pretty specific. So you kind of in your kind of structure here. The first one was controlling distribution. What did you hear as a hearing went on the indicated to that? The committee had a case here? I think the apple's APP store is one thing you know charging thirty percent cuts on certain things is just controlling an APP store. It's the same thing with Amazon's marketplace. They can inherently in control what gets placed and what gets sold and you know if they want to play with search results on Amazon, they can do that, and then on facebook and Google, it's not just like products and software that's information. And it could be information when it's like Google. Google. Stealing yelps, texture views right in putting those in its little info boxes in search queries in facebook if facebook is just like an. Mation, distribution platform and. It can decide Algorithm Mickley. Knowingly. What people get to see this bution was very keen to the committee's hearing yesterday and they pointed out different aspects in which you know each company exhibited that kind of behavior. So the one that will you bring up apple? We wrote about this, say there's much emails. Apples document production is just one hundred and thirty pages of unrelated emails and whatever order see it's like scan through it. So there's a lot of little stories in there. There's one about right to repair and apple realizing it needed to repair. By watching PR people operate by reading their emails journalists. Very entertaining. They're like we had a break like here's our strategy. Here's we're GONNA. That's all in there. You can look at it, but there's a lot about the APP store itself and how they're going to use the mechanics of the APP store to control their platform, and it started at the beginning like the first emails in this production from twenty, ten there. From Phil, Schiller Steve Jobs saying, are we GONNA? Let Amazon Sell Books in the kindle store. Store, it felt like I saw an Amazon ad was hard to watch this hard to watch this ad where a person's reading a book on an iphone in the kindle APP in the pick up an android phone keep reading. He's like literally like it was hard to watch like Schiller's at home like pain what a customer is having an experience that good it really just. Heart and so he's like it was hard to watch. You fours Steve Jobs. They're like we gotta shut it down jobs is the bookstore will be the only bookstore on the APP. Store. That's the way it's going to be everyone's gotta used to it. We know that restricting payments will hurt other things, but that's what we're doing and they started there in two thousand ten and they pulled it out, and then that ladders up into everything that we've seen with, hey, ladders up into the analysis group showing up to. Apple, can pay them to say that there's independent study has revealed. Everybody has a thirty percent cut. It has landed up into Tim Cook, forwarding. He gets a letters from developers that are in this direction. It's like apples breaking my heart and he just like Ford's it. Tim, Cook forwards that email to filter credit eighty, just as thoughts like amazing like they are constantly thinking about the APP store as a mechanism of control for the platform in the leverage and other deals. So the other one was apple is this Amazon one which I have very mixed feelings on saying that this is bad or legal I'm curious for all of your thoughts famously. Did, not have the prime video APP on the Apple TV and all these other places apple, Amazon came to a deal. There's an entire presentation in this production like the slide deck of how the deal is going to work. Apple got to be the preferred seller of its own product. So third parties cancel. Apple. Products, Amazon pages, they got. They have a custom by flow. They've custom product pages, all the stuff in return. Amazon got a lower commission on the APP store and gets to Selatan products which no. No like you can rent a movie from the Amazon APP on the Apple TV, no one else gets to it in one world. This is just pure platform collision, right? Apple cut VIP deal for big companies because it wanted something and you could say this is legal in another world. It's like this is how deals work apple something valuable. Amazon s something valuable and they came to a conclusion wherever made more money and quite frankly the consumer experience platform has got better. How do you read that? Casey? That is good and fair analysis of it. I. Think I did read slightly more scandalous. Tones into it in part because apple would never acknowledge that some developers are more important to it than others even though if you assume that that's true, I think maybe one of the things that's frustrating about it is there is no transparency accountability around which developers get sweetheart deals is that once you hit a certain threshold of revenue will cut your price. Why couldn't they extend that deal to everyone right? Or is it just if we withhold something that seems particularly valuable, we can eventually drag you to the table. Table, which is sort of what seems like happened here. I think in all cases, what I'm always looking for is the accountability, right like and some sense of of equitable treatment of developers and I understand the guys are always going to get the best treatment, but it can that be publicly visible. Can it be acknowledged and there'd be routes for others to achieve that same level of success and treatment, and that I'll just seems missing here. Did you buy Tim Co? He said it twice. It was obviously A. Glimmer, of sympathy for all four CEOS. There is a lot of reporting that they had spent months preparing for this hearing like being grilled there, they'd hire outside law firms. They. Practiced they all clearly had soundbites memorized in none of them. Got To say him because it kept getting interrupted. Tim Cook had this one where he is like if we're the gatekeepers, the gates are open wider than ever. We've gone from five hundred. APPS to one point seven, he said like. A whole speech. and. The thing is there's fierce competition for developers. They don't like our store can do for android the windows. For xbox and PS. Four. Which I was like the idea that adobe is going to be like we don't want to be on the IPAD. Here's PS. Four Photoshop is insanity to me. I'm going to build a spreadsheet. APP. For the five. That's how frustrated with Tim Cook. To that ring. True to you I. Mean, there's no, it does not ring true. There is a, there is a duopoly. In the United States when it comes to smartphones, iphones have majority share in the United States and you can't say, well, you know there's there's a rogue fork of android in Malaysia that you could go develop for if you really wanted to and have that come across as a credible argument to Americans. Right it is. Natural for any monopolist to spend most of its time, arguing that it is much smaller and much less consequential as as you think it is and they're essentially always asking you to ignore what is in front of your face, which is that they are the giant. They are in control. What they say goes, and it doesn't matter which small businesses get hurt along the. The. Way I would point out that the contact and we're gonNA talk about earnings eventually. But the context for that is apple had its biggest third quarter ever this month, their revenues went up eleven percent year over year, they're making obviously making billions of dollars in their services revenue, which is a lot of the narrative around the APP stores increasing that services line. Also went up. I think it was thirteen billion. So you're right. They're very big in their earnings the day after the hearing did nothing. To reduce that impression. I want to switch to Amazon a little bit McKenna. You really focused Amazon was basis first time up there. They came at him a lot about marketplace. How did you think that went I think it went pretty good. I. Think. John Paul specifically was just like killer her questions with breakout star. Yeah. She was just like killer and she's the representative for. SEATTLE. So this is where Amazon is right. So she just like killed it and. And I think there were a couple of instances in the documents and in questioning yesterday that really pulled important things out there was like testimony from one bookseller who was like, yeah. We just can't sell a category of books and we don't know why Amazon doesn't let us do that just like testimony like that or even when it comes to like acquisitions, the ring acquisition especially, I wrote about that today through the documents and how. They said, this is for market position. This is a for technology, your talent or anything. We just bought this and that's something that base said again, yesterday he was just very clear. It's like, yeah, we do buy things market position, which is like so insane just here like the richest person in the world. But like, yeah, we're buying market position. It's just what happens. That's another one I have mixed feelings right, and by the way, people should read McKenna story because those documents have just a very funny breakdown like the pros and cons of buying. Buying ring in many of the cons like what if this turns into nest, which if you're just the verge cast listeners like it's just like the Keyword Bingo, but it's fine to say, we're buying market position like this isn't the best product out there, but it's the category of video. doorbells is not huge, right? So to by the the market leader in video doorbells is maybe the most rational use of the money. What is the problem that you think the committee was trying to show an address sense of we're just going to market position. Pointing out, they can just do whatever they want and how casual it is, and there really isn't. It's really funny to read an email like that, and we could buy it or we could just copy it or are. We could just watch. You know that was one of the emails that base from someone. Those are just three options you know and it's like just pick and choose you know. Pointed out like a lot. Just that email itself really pointed out just how easy it is for them. They used a lot of that time history to talk about copycat behaviors and to talk about just like you know buying up competitors and it just seeing that all in one little e mail having to do with the ring was like really i. think it was really kind of I opening and especially like useful for the committee. So Amazon got hit a lot for the data collection side of it of copying competitors. bezos did not seem to have great answers there. Right. So that's the. The thing they got in trouble with this. There is that Wall Street. Journal article from like April where employees were literally like, yeah. We dip into data and we use that to guide our own private label products and everybody was like Whoa and Amazon basins. Yesterday said, well, we do have a policy that bans that but giant pointed out yesterday. It's like, okay. So what's your enforcement look like you can have the policy, but like if you don't enforce it, then it's like meaningless. And then yesterday I. Think Paul was like, can you give me a yes or no answer? Do you dip into data and he's like I can't I can't give you. Yes or no, and we're just like we're looking into it. The story had anonymous sources. So that isn't very helpful to us. You know what I mean. So that was one of the main things and that Wall Street Journal article and I think it's the same kind of examples in the committee's documents. They point out specific examples like car trunk, organizers of all things. It's like weird little products like Amazon's like this is a little hot. Maybe we should do that. So I, I think. I, think they made a good case yesterday. Yesterday on that. Yeah. I mean bezos brought up that Wall Street Journal, Article himself twice, and he was like, well, your policy against it. But I can't guarantee never happened. Then there is a strange just didn't come across clear I. Think I know what the committee was trying to get at their like US aggregate seller data when there's only three sellers and then only to sellers? Yes, I. Think what they're getting at is when you're down to the aggregate data of two companies, you heard effectively looking at individual data. What is the problem? They're like the I get what you're doing. You're just reducing the denominator to get to one, but like it, why is that particular problem? Right? Well, none of these. Dipping into individual seller data and looking at aggregate data. That's not a legal. There is no law. This is all voluntary of Amazon. So they have a voluntary policy where like we can't do individual seller data, but they say nothing against aggregate and aggregate what you're getting at eight. Here you is. Does the same thing if it's just like some goofy little product they. They bring up pop stock. It's all the time before pop tops in a moment. Right? There's only like one pop. So company like you know pop soggy, it was kind of an innovative product. It's like well, if there's only two of them and use the aggregate data, you you you have everything you need to know you know about that product line looking aggregate. If that's what you decide to qualify as do you as you're looking through the other Amazon documents and other stuff. So anything jump out at you is something the committee was trying to prove or get at. The questioning seemed very focused on. Like are you using the state at a copy products? Are you buying things? You shouldn't buy. There's one question which I did not understand why came up about DMC. Take downs on twitch and Jeff as just had this look of panic in his eyes. He's like I don't know man I bought Wedge because my kids want to. Do something like that was like the side show stuff, but the real focus here, it just seemed like it was definitely in the marketplace, right? Amazon, everyone came at Amazon for the marketplace. That's what everybody knows him as like they have all these little sides. They got rain. They got Alexa Alexa was one thing too. That was kind of interesting. It's like. Are you buying things like ring to put Alexa into and dislike expand your like Titan Ism as like an Internet Internet connected home. Thing and make that more closed off and walled gardening. That was one thing. But no, it was just focusing on how much power they have to kind of change. What happens in the marketplace to kind of decide what companies in what products are able to come up on the first page of results. You know that's also something that they dug into Google and in something that one of those like themes that kind of ties everything together. We should say they all spend a lot of time talking about counterfeit goods, and why is it Amazon removed? Fake stuff from the platform and how much is it profiting off of you know selling pick rolexes? Is it surprising? The whole foods didn't show up at all they're. Like that is a really massive thing. Amazon owns that. Is it moving into a huge new product category? I think whole foods is not an online marketplace, which was the title of the hearing, not that that restricted anybody from doing anything except that, one of the things Amazon says is we have lots of competition from offline marketplaces, right? Brought up kroger a lot I mean, this is the case he's point. They all made. It seem like they were beset at any moment. They could be crushed by the likes of stop and Shop Right? Like I think the point though was really on the. Digital. Experience Consumers have and like I, don't know Ho-. Foods fits. Into that narrative, especially, because it is itself not dominant like they bought it because you needed to grow in their. Good at that at my question for you on the Amazon stuff was when you think about, we talk about two thirty a lot right like you and I in particular spent a lot time to thirty, which regulates with the platform can do with content. There's not really an equivalent of two thirty for goods on store. Right like there's some case is out there saying like you're liable for what what happens on your online store page, but Amazon doesn't have that like second order of like Messi nece around it that twitter and facebook to with two thirty, I. Mean, it gets invoked a lot for marketplace's, but it's way messier. Well, I just wanted to like this question at counterfeits question about ranking the store like they are even more free than any twitter is to to sort tweets algorithm. Algorithm clear to modern like it just their store. Do you think that they're like that Algorithm transparency? Your wire things ranked. Did you catch a sense that that's where the regulation is GonNa go. So much of the conversation around Amazon really felt like it was individuals sellers being wronged for reasons of Amazon being unresponsive or stealing. It's data. So I don't know it didn't. It didn't seem like a really big focus of the hearing, but it is a huge deal. Yeah. The, digital marketplace frame of this, which is where we have talked to. Cellini. That's where he's going right like facebook and Google very digital. They have like they don't do physical goods. Really. Apple is the APP store. It's all digital goods. Amazon is the one where it's. Front to a lot of physical things, and that is the only place where I can see this regulation needing to make some sort of like major meaningful distinction in I. Didn't see it in the hearing, but I was curious of you caught a glimmer of it. I'm not positive that they have to make a huge distinction there like depending on what they come up with because. So much of this is about their companies and whatever product they produced. The issue is more or less whether or not they're being surveilled and unfairly by targeted and crushed by that data surveillance. All right. We have gone for forty minutes. We should take a quick break. I said I wasn't going to go by company and it happens. So we should come back and talk with facebook Ango. We'll be right back. This is advertiser content. When I say utopia what comes to mind. Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the perfect social body. Every Body Matt Place. Everybody happy now while the peacock original series, brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. A concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. I introduced the theory five hundred years ago. 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Yeah. But you said something to me yesterday was interesting, which is everyone else's problems are forward looking and it feels like facebook's problems are actually in the past break for people explain what you mean. Yeah. So when Congress is looking at any trust with respect to these four companies for three of them, it's It's sort of about the marketplaces that their operating right now with facebook, the question is much more about should we have allowed it to buy serum? Should we have allowed it to buy WHATSAPP and most of the antitrust conversation that was around facebook yesterday was all about that. What did Mark Zuckerberg know about Instagram, and when did he know it? We wrote a story based on some documents that the house released yesterday. In which facebook has clearly identified instagram as a competitor. In at least some ways and wants to go after it and knock it off the table, and so that's kind of where the focuses their facebook and Burke did get a lot of other questions yesterday, but it tended to be much more about content moderation and things that don't have a lot to do with antitrust. So there was weird section where they asked the face. Face Research APP in the novel, Vpn? Any kind of got lost well, explain what happened and I'm curious reactions. Yeah. So facebook has a bunch of nifty tech tools to figure out what's trending which APPs or the kids using, and so that can essentially have an early warning system if it needs to consider acquiring something or more likely in these days, go out clone it. and. So Zuckerberg was asked about the way that the company uses these systems and if they are anti competitive I, think you know traditional antitrust law probably would not say copying an APP feature is anti competitive, but could lobby written in the future about it shirt I. Think the one that caught me was I mean, this is what I'm. McKenna's points from earlier is like one of the themes here is, are you so dominant that you can collect data that's unfair and then use that to crush or killer competitors, and definitely bought the Inaba VPN to do it. That's true. Now, when I've asked executives at facebook about this, what they'll say is they don't get surprised anymore. When you have three point, one billion people using your apps around the world. You know what links they're sharing, you know what they're talking about. And so you're not going to need some kind of specialized tool to know that WHATSAPP is really taking off. Right. So they would argue that, yes, these tools were useful to them, but you know at their scale, they know what's popular now, which doesn't really seem like addresses, the problem is reached. The fact that we're so big that we're all knowing is maybe not the defense that they sometimes presented as so here's what I didn't get. I thought, Zuckerberg I want to the instagram. What's about who's issues, but on the facebook research front, the data front, they him about this APP facebook research, which you were giving to teens. They were deploying with an enterprise certificate that story broke apple revoke the certificate, and all of facebook's internal APPs went dark, and this is a scandal story after story about it, they went on for two days. So I can I, don't recall that APP? Just how he you know, he remembers the day that all facebook's internal APPS went down and people couldn't go to the cafeteria. I would agree I found that answer. Extremely, ed? Persuasive. that. Do you think that was like actually strategic for him to be like, I, don't know and then come back later and correct the record I do remember when that happened I. Mean. I really don't know I mean also you know during a six hour hearing, it's also possible that you just you get flustered or you miss here something or or something because. Yeah. As as you say, I'm sure he remembers the day that apple turned off their internal APPS I mean. Honestly. Seems like an opportunity to talk about apple's market power, and the fact that you know a day of work canceled at facebook because apple got mad. But I think most of the CEO's didn't go into yesterday a wanted to pick fights with each other. It was kind of sad that they didn't. I was Kinda hoping that Tim Cook take a shot at soccer burger. Point that the other two APP platforms I was expecting it. It was there. It was. There was all there. So cellini ended and he ended the whole meeting with closing statement. He said, some of these companies didn't get broken out. They all need to get regulated in the off too much power that some of them I. don't these breaking up apple. What sort of break. Right like. The division get sent into the corner thing about what it's done. Right. Does should spin out the finder team I've always wanted to. A clean is always that they want to. They want the APP store to be separate from the IPHONE. Basically, that's the thing I always hear. Can't break I. Think you can write some strong regulations but not playing you're on store, right. But like Elizabeth Warren's point was it's cleaner if it's two companies, but it's still a gigantic remedy that I don't think there's a lot of like like consumer or public opinion is going to walk into an Apple Cup I think you'll radio at marketplace. It seems very clear that we says some of them she broken up he is talking about facebook. I have a twenty percent conference level. He might be talking with Google and Youtube as well. But if he's going to say some of the need to get broken up like it's facebook, did you hear anything yesterday that supported that conclusion or Saudi stocks I? MEAN HE I don't remember which Republican it was, but he was like the Obama FTC looked at this and they said it was minding love. Obama. Right. Like. Why would we go back in time to relook at I? Mean, there is a belief and I mean. Somebody who thinks there could be a lot of benefit in instagram and WHATSAPP being different companies from facebook. And the reason you ask. So many questions about that acquisition as you're making the case that it never should have been approved in the first place, and so now you need to remedy it. So that was actually like the entire thrust of the argument against facebook yesterday. I think, you could probably make just as good a case that Amazon after spin out aws, but lawmakers chose not to make that case. Yeah. I think that also gets into. Politics of the acquisition of the time. To his credit is like nobody knew instagram would actually be a success like we made it a success. It didn't happen by itself. I, don't know if the lawmakers. By award, these guys said, but I don't know that he actually made that case very persuasively. and. Who knows I mean? That's like anything could have happened. Right? Cram could've stayed independent and rapidly grown and overtaken facebook like that's something that could have happened. It could have kind settled into a middle zone like snapchat or twitter seems more likely to me although I think probably would have been bigger than those two but. You're never going to know I mean it is true that facebook gave Mike and Kevin it instagram enormous resources. A lot of the reasons why Mike and Kevin sold was because running tiny startup that's blowing up is absolutely exhausting Mike. Krieger. was dragging his laptop all around San. Francisco. Because the servers were melting at all times of the day whenever Justin Bieber. Posted like the site stopped working and they really we need help. Finding a person who can quickly fix this? So we don't have to like that is the reason that they were entertaining these offers and wanted to sell it. So that is also thing that happened. Do you think that that same kind of argument or approach can apply to what's up? What's up basically did not come up yesterday and all the focus on Instagram, but that's the other one, right? Yeah, and we know weirdly a lot less about that acquisition I. Think it's because people in America just have so much less love for what's APP generally. That, it's never seemed as important. What happened to WHATSAPP as what happens to instagram even though WHATSAPP, is used, you know way more, it probably has way more engagement even than instagram does so I don't know why that didn't come up as often. We know there was a competitive bidding war for that as well. Goule. Wanted it as well. You know Mark Zuckerberg made them an offer, they can't refuse. Do you think everyday Google's we should've spent more money on what's whatsapp like this could have been solved. Should have, but Google has been placed under an ancient curse that prevents them from ever making the right decision about any social product. So it was doomed never to happen. It's fun looking through the documents and watching them casually say they should buy facebook dot com. Yeah, that. Point. That is how they talk like the window into these executives just casually being like we should just this thing or maybe not, or we should just copied ourselves and kill it before it gets any traction like it's repeated over and over again last facebook question. This one is like harder to parse because I. There's a chance, it's October is just joking around but. But. He's in many of these emails. He's like the thing about startups, as you can always buy them, which I think the committee thinks is a smoking gun, right? Like facebook's entire plan is to buy the competition to get the data from wherever they get it to say, oh, man, this apps popping, we just buy it and kill it before it competes with us. I. Think he actually said at one point. That's a joke. Yes, he did and I believe that you know it was two thousand, twelve, right? He was probably still in his mid twenties. At that point, the company was a lot smaller like people were joking around like there's more loose talk when companies are younger and I do think. It was it was part of that. I think the more interesting question becomes. Let's say facebook is telling the truth about everything. Let's say they thought it was going to be a successful acquisition, but they never knew it was gonna big as it became today and they invested in it and it got super big. Okay. Well, now, it's as big as it is. Should they be allowed to keep? Keep it or should they be forced to spend it out and if you're GONNA force them to spin it out. What's the argument that you'RE GONNA. Make about why one question that I have a lot is clearly the referral they're gonNa make, and it seems like if you don't have some other reason, we've heard hints that there's some other reason, the FTC scrutinize this that will eventually be revealed. But what you're saying is the antitrust standard at the time, the Consumer Hartman stand, which is still our standard. Says, you have to prove prices will go up both products for free. You're screwed. Right? There's nothing to review because you're not gonNA prove prove that free products are gonNA get more expensive. I think it's pretty unfair if you change the standard and you go back in time and say you missed that standard. So I think there has to be something else there. Well, what was the standard by which at and T. was broken up? Right? Like presumably at and T. didn't used to be that big, and then it just got really big and then they broke it up at least. That's the thumbnail understanding I have of that break-up. Well, yeah. But then reformed itself. Right. But because of lax antitrust regulation, right? Like it wasn't a naturally occurring phenomenon that all those APPS got back to the other or was that just sort of like inattention to capitalism It's like in the seventies and eighties. This is Tim moves book the cursive bigness in the seventies and eighties Robert Bork I can't talk about Robert on this podcast. Are we doing this right now. Robert was very influential judge Appellate Judge Federal Appellate? Judge. And basically moved the antitrust law to the consumer harm standard as part of a movement called and economics. A whole thing Robert. Bork. Mostly famous because he was not appointed. He was nominated Supreme Court by Reagan but they leaked video tape rental history, and then he didn't get nominated and that is where the expression getting bork's comes from. This is all true Netflix's still has to abide by videotape data privacy act is a whole. This is all true when facebook and Netflix had some partners, Nansen? Partnership. To. Automatically share your net flicks, watch history to facebook. They're like pending the change of this law which we are working on Robert Bork. He haunts us all. I'm sorry, I can't believe this much. Yeah I. think that's just like the law changed in the in the seventies and eighties, the standard change. The conversation right now is a very much about changing it back months and months ago, pre pandemic, we had an economist from I. Think it was Nyu Thomas Philippon came on the show, and he was like look you have this natural ab test going on in the world where the European Union when it formed was like, how do we get an economy like America's? So, we'll just take their competition policies pretty good, and at the same time we changed consumer harm standard. So everything you're seeing the EU is basically our old competition antitrust standard in. You can see how active they are in everything. Here's a new consumer welfare standard. Whether you believe, this is actually a functional Ab test given. The state of both governments is up for debate, but that was his point I thought. It was spare can say.
Washington, DC Public School Students Will Start School Year Online
"The top of a local story we're following this hour beyond the weather, of course, involves the challenges of parenting in in a a pandemic. pandemic. D. D. C C is is now now out out with with its its planned planned for for opening opening schools schools this this fall, fall, and and the the continuous continuous rise rise in in Corona Corona virus virus cases cases has has prompted prompted school school leaders leaders to to stay stay with with all all virtual virtual learning for at least the first semester. DC Charter and independent schools are expected to make a similar announcement this week. W T O PEACE Meghan Clarity starts are covered Casey Public schools made the decision after hearing from more than 17,000 parents. Getting teacher and staff preferences and watching the health metrics. And with that in mind, we're moving forward with an all virtual start to the school year for students. Deputy Mayor for Education Paul Kind, says D. C P s will reassess if it could make a change to partial or in person learning for the second term, and over 200 teachers help prepare our curriculum to ensure that or user friendly, efficient organized to support a virtual learning experience. Chancellor Lewis Farabee says attendance will be taken on the streamlined Platforms and wellness and emotional support programs are built into the school day, which varies by age group Meghan Cloherty. W T O Penis. If
Coronavirus in Melbourne: Victoria's case number rollercoaster
"I'm going to start by talking about numbers in. Victoria again. But before you run away because we talk about this, every day I just want to talk about how much of a roller coaster it as we went from the three hundreds to the seven hundreds in die again, how do we make sense of the kind of fluctuations it was saying out of Eke? Well, there's one explanation for part of them, which is that you might get a run of a batch of tests that come through in one hit. which were a backlog served? Let's say it takes up to three days to get the results. You may just have a backlog. But it's hard to imagine that you've gone to a backlog of something four hundred or so from yesterday, it's. Thirty, it's more like seven hundred, absolutely new cases you. have been reclassified. So you can get a surge like that. But this is you know it's almost double. In fact, it's more than double what it was yesterday. So it's hard to explain by suddenly several batches of tests coming through, but that's always possible. What you should look at the rolling average. So each day you update the rolling average for seven or fourteen days, and when you look at the graph of that, it's going up. So it's not. It's not stabilized yet. It's still going up. At, least according to the evidence that we've got and I think one of the problems Victoria is that it looks transparent, but it's not. The issue here is, do they really know what's going on and I'm not? I'm not alleging incompetence here is working incredibly hard not getting a lot of sleep. People are doing their best. You'll critcism doesn't help, but the issue is that there according to Casey Briggs who is the font of knowledge when you? Analyzing numbers. Are over three thousand, least yesterday, the war's over three thousand. Cases still under investigation. So how do you say with any degree of confidence? What's happening when three thousand cases are under investigation and again according to Casey, some of those of been over a fortnight long and remember what you see today is what happened five or ten days ago in Victoria, it's not what happened yesterday in Victoria. It's these people have been infected and found because of stuff that happened some time ago, and there's this constant delay in the system. System. And what you hope was that the lockdown that occurred the isolation of the suburbs, the lockdown occurred masks would start to see a significant bend of the curve. It hasn't happened, yet it will. It will happen. But when will it happen and if you're in Victoria it becomes very dispiriting as you're just hanging out and hoping that the lockdown only last six weeks, and here we are three weeks passed on Wednesday Friday and the numbers keep on going up. And again, if you look at the numbers, the majority are not this time in aged care according to what I understand from the figures. Yesterday, we can only say that one hundred of seven, hundred km from each care, six, hundred didn't. So what's going on here and you've got all the investigation presumably, you don't know where they came from. The at risk of losing its handle on the outbreak, well, you're not seeing seven thousand, but you are seeing seven hundred. And you are seeing this roller coaster where it goes down then goes up, but the rolling average keeps on going up, and if it keeps on going played this, they haven't got a a strong handle on. They've got a bit of a handle on it because it's not exponential growth, which is what it would be. If you had no hand. Lona at all, but it is slow and steady growth, it's not. In the say, well, Luke Kuechly effective reproduction numbers coming down to one or below one. Is it. Do they really know that if they've got so many under investigation, it's hard to know how they're generating their numbers because it's not absolutely transparent. We have to trust that they're doing that. And I. Think there's a bit of what I call viral volume going on, which is don't you worry about it? We're. We're. We've got this under control comes from the Komo through age care. Well, how do you have so many age care homes affected if there isn't a fundamental problem with each care and how it's run at least in the private sector in Australia? No matter where you are in Australia listening to Corona cast, you've got the same problem with. With private care in your state, this is not a Victorian problem. This is a national problem, the responsibility of the Commonwealth government, not you're not the individual state government. We've got an H. K. Royal Commission going on at the moment for other problems, each care, this is a sector that's under stress and we haven't proactively parachuted into age care. The sorts of support that they need to prevent an outbreak in each care, you go problem inside the moment for. Complete nightmare and guarantee it.
Kyrie Irving commits $1.5 million for WNBA players who opt out
"And Brooklyn Nets guard Kyrie Irving is committing $1.5 million. To WN BA players were choosing to opt out of the season. Irving wants to help supplement the income of those players. He will not play with the Nets in Orlando bubble azi nurses a shore a sore shoulder.
The US government is considering a TikTok ban
"TIKTOK has a history in Congress now. Josh Holly has basically been the main guy out to get to talk, but okay, so for the past year year and a half Josh Holly has had some hearings. He's invited to talk to testify, and then he's done these like wrestling style like hyper wheels on twitter, where he just like shows like an empty tick tock chair and he's like. Where are they and it's like we're guitar music album. Is Our personal information being made less secure by big tech, because of their partnerships with some of these questionable receive. At least. This has happened. We've been waiting all this kind of happened when Mike pompeo like randomly one night on Fox, news. It's like yeah. We're thinking about banning TIKTOK. And that's basically all he said, and then, of course, everyone's like what is happening, so the government can't really do a want to ban tiktok addy. Our colleague here on the policy dusted a wonderful story talking about all the ways that they could kind of get around. Banning them, but the one thing the government can do is banned other people in government from using. On their devices so. This week the House of A Josh Holly Bill that would ban federal employees from using Tiktok on their devices, and then just yesterday earlier this week. It made it through the Senate committee, so all it needs now is vote on the Senate floor to be approved signature and Tiktok. His banned from Federal Devices Military Tiktok is not a small community. No, it's huge. It's huge. It's huge I watch a lot of fighter jets land on aircraft carriers. Somebody took a very bad dad. TIKTOK I'll go. Is Very different from mine, so federal employees banned from using it. Is there any further motion like? Their moves right. You could like you can say it's a Chinese company. We don't want them like. We did it to Weiwei right, but we. We basically banned companies from buying equipment. How would you? How would you do that with Tiktok? We have this problem all the time. With like what regulator deals with tech, no one has any idea or they want a piece of it, and then they fight over it, and it's a nightmare, so that's part of the problem. We don't have in federal agency that really organizes around Blake Tech Regulation at all, so it's not like you can just go knocking on the. The door. It'd be like excuse me. Chairman Simon's please ban. Tiktok you can't do that so in the same way that the FCC jeep pie can be like no money goes to while away and then here's some money to dig it up and get it out of your system like we don't have the infrastructure for that and I think that's primarily the biggest problem here I mean. There's a couple of things that you could do with like foreign, Investment Sifi's. Sifi's stuff. It's all incredibly Wonky, but it's an incredibly difficult, if not impossible to just ban an APP, and that would have to do with like talking to apple and Google and APP stores and having you know what I mean having to com- completely direct what how they operate in some way. We just got done with a huge discussion about how apple has monopoly on after being on the iphone Google doesn't on Android, but they might may as well for. For most intensive purposes, especially here in the US, so if they can strong-arm apple and Google just pulling them off the APP store. That like it's pretty close I mean they're like Donald. Trump is like one iphone tariffs right away right? I mean but like I. Don't know if anyone is gonNA. Pull it off now, Casey. One thing that strikes me is even on my extremely lame Dad Tiktok I see so many creator saying is getting banned following instagram. It's a trend all over the place, and obviously trump and sort of the republican side of the the world are like Tiktok Chinese. We hate it. trumpet is I, think particularly pissed because of the rally narrative run TIKTOK that's Russell singles last week. Also delivers a lot of information to people in young voters in particular in Opaque Algorithm feed like that. It feels like yours zone has bubbled up beyond just a bunch of noise for you. Yeah, I mean like this is a Ben Thompson. Point which is that China has been in an information war with the United States for twenty years, and Americans have just pretended. It doesn't exist right like the point makes over, and over again is China started this fight? A social networks are not allowed to operate in China, and so the fact that. Albert Mickley based feed that is totally opaque. That is operating insider. Reporters should raise at least some national security concerns right like the kind of. Threat you worry about. Is You know what if the Communist Party decides that? It just wants to push a lot of pro-trump propaganda in the run-up to the election. You know it just because it would. It would so some chaos, and it would benefit them regardless of how likely you think that is to happen. The fact is that it could happen and. Should the the country have some sort of response to that? How should think about that? And you can take different views on it but I do think the thinking about what Tiktok is and how it could be used has been unsophisticated because as with every social product when it first got started. We all look at it and we think this is fun. This is a toy. Nothing bad could ever come from teenagers doing dances. And fast forward to the two thousand sixteen election has no one ever watched footloose I mean come on yeah. Look what happened. What state will allow dancing in that town? Lot of people think happy story I. Don't think that that is a movie about how town was ruined through dancing.
Researchers Throw Cold Water on the Panic Around COVID-19’s Alleged Short-Lived Immunity
"There was a study put out by King's College in London a few weeks ago, which found that covid nineteen antibodies in people who had been infected largely disappeared after two months. The headlines about covid nineteen immunity being temporary were all over the place with more than a few implying that this means will never have a truly effective vaccine and never truly defeat the coronavirus. It's all terrifying so I wanted to share some insight from Derek. Thompson over at the Atlantic spoke with a number of experts to get a deeper understanding of the study and inject some good news into all of the headline fearmongering. Now I'm not going to tell you that. The study was totally wrong and that we're all going to be completely fine nothing about covid nineteen is completely good news, but as Shane Crotty of urologist at the La Hoya Institute for -Nology told the Atlantic actually looking at the data. I feel okay about it. Quoting further from the Atlantic acquired immunity is. Memory when our bodies fight off infection, we want our immune systems to remember how to defeat it again like a person who, after solving a big jigsaw puzzle recognizes and remembers how to set the pieces the next time. The whole point of vaccination is to teach the immune system those same puzzle solving lessons without exposing it to the full virus. This is why Casey L. study initially seemed so dreadful it. It found that the number of certain active antibodies called neutralizing antibodies declined significantly between tests especially in patients with mild or no symptoms. Antibody levels are one proxy for the Immune System's memory. If they plunged quickly, that might mean that our immune system can't remember how to solve covid nineteen for more than a few months at a time do minus to start from square one with each new exposure end quotes. Now while those findings from the King's college study are definitely concerning, there are three main reasons to be skeptical about the study and therefore hopeful for futures. I, the study only looked at one part of our immune system, our vast mysterious immune system about which there remain many unknowns quoting again when a new pathogen enters, the body are adaptive immune system calls up a team of BCL's with produce antibodies and t cells to over simplify the B. Cells antibodies intercept and bind to invading molecules and the killer t cells seek and destroy infected cells, Evaluating Immune Response Without A. T cells is like inventory, national air force, but leaving out the bomber jets, and in the case of covid nineteen, those bomber jets could make the biggest difference. A growing collection of evidence suggests that t cells provide the strongest and longest lasting immunity cove in nineteen, but this study didn't measure them at all end quote, further study and a Francis Strasbourg university hospital found that patients recovering from covid nineteen had strong t cell responses, despite not having any detectable antibodies. Now second decline in antibodies that unusual Shane Crotty the Varela gist from the Loy. Institute for Immunology. said quote it unusual to have feeding antibody response after several months the off. Isn't that surprising when you look at something like the smallpox vaccine easy the antibody responses down about seventy five percent after six months, but that's a vaccine that works for decades. We need a study like this to look at Cova patients six months after infection to really know what we're dealing with and quote. And third, and finally it's possible that even these low levels of antibodies could trigger a larger immune response in the future like if the individual is exposed to SARS Cov to again, this goes back to the immunological memory. It's like the memories and that strong when it's not confronted, but win the trigger of the virus returns, so does the memory. Even beyond the critiques of this one study that caused so much panic in the news, there remain many other reasons to be hopeful. Vaccine Research continues to steamroll along at an unprecedented pace. Several studies on monkeys have shown strong long lasting immune response and a new study shows that patients who recovered from SARS East Asia indeed have long lasting t cell immunity. Plus Journalists Noah. Smith shared on twitter, pointing to research from immunologist professor. Akiko, it was sake. This news about antibodies doesn't necessarily mean the vaccine would be ineffective because quoting Sake, vaccines can elicit stronger immune response than natural. Those covid nineteen vaccines can and should induce more robust and durable protection than natural infection end quote. As no Smith sums it all up quote. One antimony bunnies aren't the only thing that can give you. Immunity to your body can probably remember how to make new antibodies and three vaccines can potentially give you longer lasting immunity than you'd get from actually getting covid end quote.
New York City To Enter Phase 4 Of Reopening Monday – But No Indoor Dining, Malls, Museums
"Once the pandemics epicentre, New York City is now poised to enter Phase four of reopening next week. Museums, malls and indoor dining will remain shut down 40 additional blocks of outdoor dining options will reopen in the city three days a week. Other outdoor activities like zoos and botanical gardens can open at 33% capacity. Fox's Casey
Apple Wins Major Tax Battle Against EU
"Are getting a boost from a ruling in its favour in Europe, second highest court They're ruled that Apple's tax deal with Ireland doesn't appear to be a legal. The European Commission has been seeking 15 billion and back taxes from Apple. Can
Kansas City Chiefs, Pro Bowler Chris Jones agree to four-year extension ahead of franchise-tag deadline
"Kansas City Chiefs have reached a four year contract with defensive tackle Chris Jones worth an estimated $80 million. Casey had just extended quarterback Patrick Mahomes, 10 years at 500 million. Sports updates a 10 and 40 after the hour Bill Schwarz come own is
"casey" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM
"Casey. Time for Politico is reporting that some states have announced cuts to their Medicaid budgets. Because of the loss of tax revenue, which, of course, is due to the closing down the economy. Now it's not the first time that states have cut Medicaid spending. It happened during the last economic slowdown, but experts warn this time it's going to be worse because under Obamacare, the number of people using Medicaid skyrocketed by millions. That's not bad enough. There are millions of people newly out of work. A bunch of them are going to seek help for Medicaid. Just as the money is running out now in the first Corona virus veil out legislation Congress gave states a temporary 6% increase to cover Medicaid. That some states are crying and moaning. It's not enough. They need more money, and they don't want chump change. They want billions and billions more. They want hundreds of billions, and they want it now. And the Democrats in Congress, of course, want himto have it now. So you might be asking why don't the states cut their budgets in other areas? If Medicaid such a priority, or you might ask, Where are these billions of dollars supposed to come from? Well, you can ask all you want. There never will be an answer. States want more money and were supposed to come up with it. In the story. Just apparently how it works now, Except for you. You want more money? Screw you. You can't even go backto work yet. Chump. Russian..
"casey" Discussed on Reality Life with Kate Casey
"Welcome back to another episode of Reality Life with. Casey hope that you're having a great week that you've got some great plans for the weekend. I am going to Utah with my family for what I like to call the shining inspired weekend in park city I will be freezing in cold. I do not like snow. I don't like being cold but I am going to rough it for the sake of my family so think of me. Good news is I've I have made contact with an actual real housewife of Salt Lake City. And we'll be meeting up with them and I hope to report some details and the next episode food so tune back in just you can hear what I found out. I watched the season premiere of Summer House. I don't know guys. It feels a little bit. It like Carl and Lindsey our third year seniors and Jules as a freshman. I don't know I I feel like a lot of the shows you've got the OH. Jeez and then. They're such an age age disparity. You're like I don't think these people would ever hang on real life so I don't know how long I can hang on but I'm going to try to try to make it through through the season is so don't love the House that they're staying in. I feel like it's like a prison. I don't feel like they don't like it either. It has to be some sort of SPEC backhaus that they can't sell them the Hamptons. I'd love to know where it's located though severe hamptons expert. Please let me know. especially if they're filming the summer and you're somebody any who loves to spend time in the HAMPTONS report back. I'd also love to know about Jackie on real housewives of New Jersey's house in the Hamptons in in other words. If you'RE A hamptons real estate expert if you could maybe report into the show and give us some sort of tutorial on where all these houses are located also also aren't we pretty positive kyle and Amanda will never get married. I don't know why they're engaged. It's a total buzzkill to this house for engaged couple to be there so so I don't know if I'm the only one here but I just feel like it's a total buzzkill because when I was growing up in Philadelphia the whole thing about the summer house thing is that it's a bunch of young professionals living together so you don't know who's GonNa be hooking up with whom friends are going to be coming into the house. No no one would be engaged staying in the summer house. No because you all pay like a couple of hundred dollars a month or whatever to stay in the house together and everyone comes with the expectation that they're gonNA stay on cots. They're gonNA sleep on the floor knowing gauge couple would withstand stand a situation like that so it makes zero sense now in other news this episode. I'm thrilled about because I like a good walk down memory lane. I love nostalgic interviews. Because I've been watching reality TV forever and like you guys all no no. I've just encyclopedia knowledge. Almost every reality show. I've ever watched so I've always wondered about people that were on Laguna beach because really l. e. aired before social media really became so prevalent so I'm interested to know what people on that show experienced reinstall because it was right before that wave. Do they feel like they kind of escaped much of the criticism that comes with being on the show today so it happens that I have run into a couple of times into Casey Reinhardt. Now Casey Brown in town because she has toddlers just like might my kids age so I ran into a couple of times. Said you've got to come on the show so I finally got a chance this week to go over to her house now. Casey was was on the beach but she also won cupcake wars and went on to start a cupcake business though what you should know. His background is that her stepfather is the person and who created the frozen Burrito. They live a life that is like they need to be on a reality show but they don't want to be on a reality show their lifestyle is like lifestyles of the rich of the rich and famous. Were there the personification of lifestyles of the rich and famous. If you look at their instagram she'll just go on a trip on like a huge yacht like it's insane so I go over to her house Monday and Dan. The House is beautiful and I walk in. Of course she's like in head to toe Chanel and I meant like jeans right and she offers me a donut donut. It's on a Hermes plate there. The staircase is like out of MTV cribs. And there's a fire on and I just kept laughing. Fina myself thinking thank God. The interview is not done at my house because she'd be like who. When can I get the hell out of here on at the end of the interview? Her her kids show up because they had been Like a tutoring class. We both share the same teacher. And she's like a fairytale she's like Mary poppins where she's greeting the kids and she squatting down. She's hugging them. And I just felt like men. My kids really missed out because my kids come home and I'm like hey what the hell is wrong with you. Pick up your shoes. Did you do your homework. And I swear to God if I find another ping pong ball on the floor for someone will never live to see another day like I am so mean. Compared to her. She's like mother goose so I wanted to catch up with her but I also wanted to ask her about what she thought about. Ever been on real housewives of Orange County because everybody in this county is is in confusion why she would not be on the show because she epitomizes to me a Newport coast woman who lives in a very beautiful over the top house and has a great lifestyle like she and her friends are the kind of women who are in like head to toe luxury items and have these over the top vacations and my friends are like in running close incomplete complaining about having to drop off at soccer practice so it was interesting to just catch up with her but I have to say. She's the nicest person that walked her. You know those people that you meet and you think this can't be real like she cannot be this nice. She actually really. Is that Nice. So it's really nice that someone who has had such privilege is so charitable and so kind and I think you're GonNa Fall in love with her because she is the real deal she's so sweet and very happily married and has made a great life for herself and has so much going on. So Oh a great walk down Memory Lane if you love nostalgic interviews but then I also got a chance to talk to reality Steve because he is the guy who knows absolutely absolutely everything about about the bachelor now. I made sure not to get a spoiler because I know that there's some of you that if I were to ask him about the winter. You'd Chopin my house with a pitchfork and murdered. But I assure you I am not spoiling the show. You can still listen to this and still. I don't know smoke a cigarette in your car. You will be very very happy so I wanted to catch up with him. Ask Him about the season but actually also ask them about what's going on behind the scenes of the show. which is you know that that kind of stuff right up my alley? So Casey Brown and Reality Steve This episode so here we go the reality. Steve has a huge website. He has been spoiling the bachelor for several seasons. Giving US major scoop into every season we will not not spoil the ending for you. But I'm thrilled to talk to him. He's my old podcast team pal to ask him about the season Steve. Welcome back to the show. Hey Kate how are you great first question out of the Gate Peter. The pilot is this guy here for love or as I suspect. Is he here because he wants is to become a host on the CMT. I'm really just kinda thrown off by Peter's whole thing because of all the bachelors we've had recently all of them have gone on to do some sort of I want to get into hosting. I WANNA get into you know influencing stuff. I want to improve improve my brand. Peter has made it pretty clear and since season the seasons stopped filming. He's going back to his job. You just he's a pilot for Delta and he has made no bones owns about the fact that he's not quitting being a pilot. I'm thinking you know. I just think the bachelor guys do it. Because it's a great perk. It's like wow I get to be the star of a network reality show for two and a half months all the things that are gonNA come along with it if I find somebody great. If I don't so many more women now I know want me and I have way more pick of the litter. What are some of the perks that the bachelor gets are you? Do you know of any like do you get a personal. So trainers you get a nutritionist. You get a stylist do you. Get a publicist manager or are you a short management for a period of time after the bachelor ends what do you what do they they get out of it on the back end on the back end. It's more about just your your your name and your visibility is out there and that's why with eater. It's different like nothing that Peter Does on the bachelor is going to help his piloting career. You know he's just GonNa go back and the pilot for Delta Post show. You're not giving any sort of like I duNno trainer or most of them end up getting agents or publicists to due to help them navigate their career because these people can do it on their own. So it's just more of your your now visible figure in quote Unquote Report Hollywood. And while you might be on the C. or D. or even illest you're on the list as opposed to if you never one on this show before the only people who know your name our family and friends so it certainly helps very popular show. It's very it's part of the pop culture lexicon It's it's been around longer than almost any reality show outside of survivor. It's just it's a staple in in this community and in the reality allergy community and and it's not going away anytime soon. In fact they're adding more shows to the bachelor franchise not taking away stuff. We're only going down to one after one season pro talented year like they're adding shows we've got the bachelor listen to your heart which is now going to start in April just currently in filming. Which is Chris? Harrison is the host twenty people live in a mansion. They all have music backgrounds. It's star is born meets bachelor. In paradise they go on dates. That are all musically themed there's going to be eliminations and there's going to be one couple at the end but it's going to be under the bachelor umbrella. Do you think that they brought him back because the.
"casey" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"Help you help you help you help me work me through me and because Travis, we had those breakup. I think that it is very mature thing to say and it's only early. I can only say in retrospect. Now, looking back, it's just because of those breakup. I think our relationship is so strong because when you're at a place of frustration relationship, especially when you're young, you're like, fuck this. I can do better. I can do better. The grass is greener elsewhere. You're like I'm out and especially like when you're in your twenties, you don't care or in Kansas sake, you're like an absolute bad that every guy wants to be near. I can do better to put up with this Bs and you break up and what happened to us for eight straight years is like we would do better. Candace had some dopey boyfriend who is really handsome. So I went and dated some model to be like, look, you do too. Just totally miserable. Come on. I don't wanna be mean to mex- boyfriends. That plural. I thought you only ever dated one other guy besides another one that was in between that I wasn't keeping tracks. I was just on a mission to sabotage sweetheart and everything was great about him. It's just one thing that was wrong with him. The same thing that was wrong with all the girls, you dated weren't Candice and they weren't. He wasn't Casey, poor pe-. I mean, I just feel bad like they didn't stand a chance. They were just there were just fodder for now. To make someone else really happy, and that's that's what it was Travis. So it's like really mature thing to say because it required us being totally adults. No, we're now looking back at the time. We were petty petulant children, bickering and fighting and just trying to make one another jail. I feel bad about our friends and family that had to listen to us do this over and over and over again. I'd Kansas City like ten times. I'm not doing this again. I am not doing this again. The only one who was ever on our side was my sister. No, in that one friend of your mom's who liked me lira. Awesome. So, yeah, of course we're soulmates, but it's very easy to do now that we're stuck together forever hard-fought. This question might be a little on the heavy side. Let's see. This isn't the divorce question. It's something else. Hey, guys, many Dana coming from a suburb of Houston, Texas. I, I'd like to say that I never want your podcast end when I'm listening, I'm like, oh, it's over crap. But you brought up a situation that I wanted to know what your thoughts were. You'd mentioned about, you know your parents cheating and having to deal with that. And so as a child or as an adult like, hell, do you forgive your parents for the things that end up like scoping the person that you are later in life? My dad cheated on my mom when she was dying of cancer into believing us instead of didn't tenant for that. And now he is dying of cancer as well. And he is still with the lady left my mom for. So how do I forgive for that? I'm running out of time and I'm dealing with that being a parent. You know, I would wish my kid would forgive me for the things that I do wrong. But how do I forgive my dad for his wrongdoings? I have a sort of simple answer for that, and I don't know how old you. Are, but said, shed kids, it sounds like she's, she's. Did you say like as a kid. Anyway, the point is the older you get. It never stops because I'm still learning how vulnerable my parents are even like on a weekly basis now. But when you're a kid, you think your parents are heroes and they're meant to stay married forever and they're never meant to do any wrong, not make any mistakes. And then as you get older and older, you start, you become aware of their mistakes. Maybe they drink too many glasses of wine at dinner. Maybe they didn't shower everyday, like whatever the weird thing is, but if you don't forgive him for being a human, I mean, it sounds like it, no, it's pretty inhumane to like cheat on your wife who's dying of cancer, but he's, he is just human and you don't want him to pass away without closure in that regard..
"casey" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"Say it like learned that there were that that I was like very. Do you didn't come to any sort of understanding about why? So I've had that understanding, but I It wasn't. wasn't to this one. This one, the same thing comes up again. It's something that sensitive to me that we're, we're talking about that I'm not gonna get into because you don't need to know the details of our dirty laundry. It's something that I was said about a few months ago and then I sort of worked through it, but I think everything that's happening now is making me more anxious and this this topic came up again in that hasn't come up for a while and I got really upset about it. But did you learn from Dr p that like this might come up again and again, and each time something like this comes up, you're going to have to handle it, put I understood that going into it lie when I was upset about it the other day at home. Did you not just pull me aside and say what exactly what doctor said to do, which was like, just I just need affirmation like there's understand. But the thing is, I don't need gifts. I need affirmation a new. I know that there's no reasoning with you in that. Situation requires an intermediary like the doctor to say, Candace. Casey does understand and you're like, okay, I said I said, you said why? We're even talk me about it. And I said, I will. And then it went to straight to a dead end. I didn't fight. I just listened. And I said, I understand. He's absolutely not what happened. Casey. It's like you remember things completely differently. Have you ever read nineteen Eighty-four stump? Deflecting Turner? I am telling you. That moment in the kitchen. And I said, do not even want to talk about it. New said, no, I can't talk about it with you. We'll talk about it with Dr p and that also made me feel just like, well, fine then don't give shit is not that don't give a shit, it's because we have beaten that horse. What you know, don't even try to fix it. Just just be there splayed. This is so hard for you. I know that's it. That's all you have to say. You don't have to say, what can I do? Let's do something else. Liquor said this. It's so easy for it's so easy like now you're at a totally. We are totally that come rush no place in this conversation. It's like a very healthy dialogue. We're having right now. But in that moment, you're so raged out at me and there's so much like in the level of emotion is off the charts. But why does that scare you so bad? Why it's not that it scares me. It's It's it's. I have known you long enough and well enough to know that in those situations, there is no grabbing your hands saying, understanding that you shell out. I've tried that. I've done that. I do that. So often it just has when you're in at that place, there is no penetrating that right now. I'm feeling like that when we have those arguments where I just can't say anything because he's your market and. Put. This is what we talked about this morning, what this exact thing, what which is like in those situations, it's very hard to communicate with you. And now that we've worked through it, it's very easy for you to sort of characterize the solution as being like me, demonstrating empathy, which you nominee pathetic person. I do understand and that's all you need. But in those moments you need so much more than just like a demonstration of empathy. In those moments, you need. There's like a cool down that has to happen in that cool down requires a voice that can't be mine because my voice is is bias in those situation. Right? So basically, we always solve his faults fights because I'm the one that has to go and listen to a psychiatrist. Tommy that I'm wrong. That's fair. That's fair..
"casey" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"Where to begin. This is like this is like pulling a bandaid off of a wound, and then seeing the wound before it heals over because Candace had proper proper therapy this morning with the formal, the PHD to give US Vice. So we have some really, we had some really salacious content for you today has your diet Honey. Well, should I just should I just talk about all the stuff that leading up to this breakdown breakdown extreme? Aren't you glad that my breakdowns are that tiny now. Yeah, that'd be great. Wait, what? Yes. Yes. I don't know. There's just a lot going on, and my hormones are crazy, and my meds are off because of all the extra blood in my body from the fetus. This is hidden. So by talk over me and he's interested. Which part fetus and blood good Lord Casey for someone who picks his scabs don't do that. No. When you have a baby inside you you, your body can. This is so pre, okay, keep it on. She's huge anyway when your body when your body's carrying another a human, your blood volume goes up by fifty percent. So you all these weird things happens like your vein, start to pop out. You get like you see that little pink spider on my cheek thing a little like blood pop there. Yep, that's from that. And then if you're on medication that. They're the purity of it is diluted when you have more blood. So you have to take Tylenol that have one sorta that that's the idea. So one of the drugs I'm on. Has been low because of my blood level, my blood, how much blood I have. And then just really it's like, got to the point where it's Zaphon is if I'm taking nothing. So that's going to go up tonight which should come. I like anxieties freaking out freaking out. There's a lot to freak out or maybe not, or maybe it's just everything's normal. Everything's totally fine. Yeah. Well, even great weather today. Thank you there that should solve all my roblems. The fact that it's sunny active to the weather. I just want to talk about. I always say that you're huge. And when I say everybody like reels back in cringes. But what I mean by that is that comparatively to the last time since exact same thing. Okay. Good. I don't want people like picking on you. Say it differently? How can this is Kansas. Bali is enormous. His belly is enormous us. Why wouldn't say that? It's like Kardashian, but now it's like these skinny little legs asked that sticks out like a foot to total kill us. What pets? Yeah. Those used to be too big to even. Forty year old sweatpants. People know not free people free city that she's been sleeping in his lungs. I've known her Honey. You cannot eat cherries while we were contest. And they're like big, baggy comfy, sleepy, pajamas. What pants and she had them under the right and they were just stretch. This sounds horrible. Just stretched taut across the backside, and I think it was really illustrative of just how impactful this pregnancy has been on you. Okay. But the stuff you can't see the stuff that's making me go bonkers like the pain in my hip, that every time I shift my body and a seat or stand up from sitting too long or like sleep on my side for too long is like like nine out of ten sharp pain like someone jabbing an ice pick right in my hip socket that can throw me off that can make me feel like I can really empathize because I'm a runner. So I often get pains in my knees and hips. And so from that running the same exact thing as being pregnant. Yeah, but you can stop. I have to keep going for a few more months. And then finding out that I had just asional diabetes. That was like a real fucking. Kenneth. Now until the child is born has diabetes. She has that little thing that what's medical term may import depend the poker. No, no, the picker the thing that needle that makes you know what it's called. It looks like a ballpoint pen, but you push the button jabs your finger the needle with one purpose which is to make you bleed so that you can test your who host level in your blood and people have.
"casey" Discussed on Converge with Casey Newton
"If you like today's show it would mean so much to me if you through it a rating on apple podcast that helps people find us and if you didn't like today show my name is ashley carmen and this was wide you push that button hey how's this show going so far i want to hear from you the controversy over the laugh track continues you know it was such a trending topic on social media that facebook actually killed trending topics last week that's how split this thing is getting so anyway email me i'm casey at the verge dot com i'm at casey newton on twitter and you can tweet about the show using the hashtag benghazi if you want even more of me in your life i write a daily newsletter about social networks and democracy called the interface you can find the link at my twitter bio and until next time the convergence ron five thousand is closed game over this episode is brought to you by starbucks new chicken bacon ranch frappuccino layers of fresh brewed cappuccino flavor combined with savory hand batch flavor infused chicken ranch seasoning and two slices of crispy apple wood smoked bacon that over twelve hundred calories the bacon ranch frappuccino makes for a great lunch on the go starbucks it's mostly sugar all right that was another fake ad we still don't have a sponsor for the show kind of doing it for freezes right now so if you've got i don't know a million dollars in liquid currency and want me to say words out loud on the show dm me.
"casey" Discussed on Converge with Casey Newton
"It's spam that is a real spanishlanguage spam i don't know why spammers are emailing me in spanish maybe they know that my accent is that good but what can i tell you so with that is now your turn to give me an email subject line suspicious activity in your account the body the message hi mark we've detected suspicious activity in your account comma and that it has the account someone else might be using your account click here to secure your accounts i mean that's very very authentic i guess the question is is it so pedestrian that you assumed i would just believe it was spam even though it was just easy fake spam for you to create but i'm gonna go with span this is no ma'am but sort of a trick question because how would you know and the point is on these messages were no longer seeing all of these ridiculous examples in high volume what we're seeing instead is things that boost the exact template from legitimate message just changing the destination of the link all right we'll fair enough while i can't believe it but we're still tied at one this game has proven to be one of the most difficult we've played in the history of converge and that brings us now to message number four free mark subject line going out of business scarves dot net the message scarves dot net is going out of business we're liquidating our entire inventory of scarves at a ridiculous clothes out price just five dollars per scarf that is up to eighty eight percent off this is no joke will judging by people on the radio can't tell but the infinity scarf you've been wearing for this interview i have to seem you are an aficionado of many types of scarves and probably a skype dot com frequent shopper.
"casey" Discussed on Converge with Casey Newton
"Compensation for your past efforts here in benin republic i do know that united states dollars are one of the most popular currencies around the world and so intend to say that that's a legitimate offer but something about it just didn't sound quite right so i'll go the span the answer was no ma'am and the reason the spam was real but it did not actually have a subject line so i'd say an easy mistake to make i can see how you made it but nonetheless you've lost the round and now we go back to you all right i better up my game there's one here where i really only have the subject line duda data privacy restrictions i did not feel it was appropriate to bring the rest of the message understandable that subject line though is stephen hawking predicts this pill will change humanity well i know that stephen hawking regrettably recently passed away and so the idea that he's still making predictions here this late day in two thousand eighteen strikes me as unlikely so i'm going to say no ma'am that's incorrect this was legitimate spam message extracted from plumber a bulk filters people are still dishonoring the memory of stephen hawking in this way not only that but they spelled the word pill with the number one instead of a letter l i don't know what is more of setting it's probably dishonoring the memory of stephen hawking probably that all right well i think we're all tied up then now here is another one subject line good not the phillies the aluminum precio incredibly and from the message v deo de most of us own it's would've bdo click aqui to navigate no supporter lv dale html five it is important to lick when you want to hp mel five video so i'm going to say that's a no man.
"casey" Discussed on Converge with Casey Newton
"This one's going to be tough because i don't know so much about your emailing history i'll go with spam correct that is actual spam and it made me happy when i read it in my spam folder the other day all right it is now your move subject i need your urgent reply message as good day i let me start by introducing myself as mrs susan chaban gu a mother of three children and the minister of women in the presence presidency of the republic of south africa since may two thousand fourteen you know it sounds like it could be from a a novel that you're working on but i'm gonna guess spam correct one for one they'll funny story when i was working at a yahu mail on spam i received a lincoln request from the it manager of a bank based in lagos nigeria who said what can i do i have no way to write to any of everything i said gets immediately bounced back to me or put into the junk folder if that's very closely with them trying to figure out how his legitimate messages could get through what was the answer we solved it for you all right well that was nice but learning machine learning machine learning is the answer alright spam number two subject line good evening and from the email breaking news this is doing form you that the higher authorities that is in charge of international transaction has this morning declared that you will receive one million five hundred thousand united states dollars through western union money transfer government office only as.
"casey" Discussed on Converge with Casey Newton
"Oh i'm reading earth see right now by ursula laghouat i've heard good things about that how about westworld your watching westworld i missed the second season all right do you have a goto spotify or youtube music playlist there's one on spotify called the daily mix well unfortunately that answer came in after time had already expired so they answered is not count that was a score of eleven for the lightning round which is a high score now we come to the wildcard round in the wildcard we reach into the converged tron five thousand and play a game generated by some of the world's most sophisticated rhythms we selected spam or no ma'am now in spam or no ma'am we will present one another with five pieces of spam some will be taken from our actual g mail spam filters others will be fixed that we created to try to fool one another and create an atmosphere of mutual distrust i will read you the subject line and a few sentences from the email in question it's real yell spam of it's fake yell no ma'am then the tables will turn you'll read me an email and forced me to guess whether it's real or fake we will continue this process until we have reached inbox zero do you have any questions no ma'am very well i will now read you the first email subject line feisty minded girl feisty misspelt with the eye coming for the me i'm all about meeting new men and just enjoying the moment you might be my type of man but i still have to see for myself l o l anyway how would you like to meet up at my place at two is a number two.
"casey" Discussed on Converge with Casey Newton
"Different places in the communications space that i wouldn't classify strictly a spam it's much more in the the fishing or other cases like business email compromise with more targeted attack what's happening in these cases is when i mentioned fishing with people often think of is dear sir or madam i am oil minister with thirty five million dollars that i would like you to help me unload and that doesn't work what does work is taking your name out of a hat wherever i find it going to your lincoln page and finding a few facts about you maybe doing a little search and getting some other information and then saying dear casey you may remember we met a few weeks ago at vox media and at the time you would promise to tell me your social security number and then it just slipped your mind could you please remind me i take it to the absurd but you can imagine how you could do something that's much closer like hey i'm going to meet up with you remind me your mother's maiden name like you know i don't know what the questions are but these social engineering attacks that they spend a few more minutes personally using can then yield much much more outsized rewards that's that's their version of human in the loop every human in the loop yeah and business email compromise is particularly scary this is a problem where recipients get a message that maybe pretends to be from an executive at their company or from the finance team saying in famous examples you know send me those tax forms and it's a near duplicate it's not cease y it's s y and i just don't see it or it's got maybe even sorolla letter e instead of the latin letter e and so i wouldn't even recognize that that's different in gino we've built a bunch of features in both our web client and our is and android apps that identify when you're getting messages from d'appel gang or something that looks close but isn't but that's just one of the many dimensions where we've been quite concerned about this impersonation of pretending to be someone else and asking for sensitive information which is much much more rewarding if i send out ten million offers for generic viagra i might get a ten.
"casey" Discussed on Converge with Casey Newton
"Learning is pattern recognition so you're you're able to spot a lot of patterns that other people can't see just because you're sort of seeing so much yes except that's what they were doing ten years ago and we got hip to if you're sending the same message millions and millions of times it's not that hard to stop that so now what we see is bespoke customized messages a million variations sent to a million people each one getting it fairly actually truly unique to each person and that's a different type of problem where you're then looking across this very vast samples base yeah so you've been fighting spam for a long time some might even say you have a single minded obsession so how did this come about how did you get into this line of work it was by swinging the pendulum so i had a small startup company based in minneapolis actually and we were working in digital photography space nothing to do with this sold it off and we're look i was looking for the next challenge and called a friend in the bay area saying i hear that places cool what do you got going on and she said instead of trying something small why don't you look at the other extreme i've recently joined yahoo mail we've got some great success we actually have been the the best in this area for a long time and you could try to project where you make a small change in help two hundred fifty million three hundred million people so it was really that chance of going from running my own retail store as part of the proof of concept for the startup to making changes that a quarter of a billion people would see the results of right and so from there all all the way to google where i know jimoh has more than a billion users numbers keep going up so when i look at my spam inbox the kinds of spam seem mostly the same to me that they always have banned but i've been wondering about how they might be evolving in ways that i can't.
"casey" Discussed on Converge with Casey Newton
"She ate you haven't engineers mind and you're able to explain things in a very rigorously logical and systematic way that i appreciate as journalist who frequently to take notes and often gets lost with people who are maybe a bit more discursive so i'm giving you a nine now come to profit potential everything you just said sounds like it's been very expensive for google so while i'm sure it is lead to more g mail sign ups over time i'm not sure that i can say this is exactly going to be gangbusters in terms of pure revenue so i'm giving you a six that brings us to the final score would is do i personally grew it and i have say you convince me so i'm giving it a ten oh a rare occurrence here on converge let's add it up thirty two points in the first round for mark risher a solid score to carry with us into the interview round the round where you attempt to char listeners in a way that burnishes your personal brand and improve your standing as a thought leader mark your job is oversee spam fighting efforts at google but you do security things as well but but when on this subject specifically of spam tell us how you go about sort of improving what google does on that front daytoday to improve upon we'll be doing spam it's a lot it's a lot of data gathering and it's trying to find tools that gives us the leverage their this is actually one of the areas where we've invested considerably and for a really long time in machine learning which is the topic that everyone's talking about and not everyone's doing or do incorrectly and it's something that we've really matured to to quite a level because because the stakes are so high and because the numbers and the volumes are so profound and pronounce that you couldn't deal with it by writing rules right and spam is a game where these bad actors are sending the same message to millions and millions of people and you see it millions and millions of time and you know.
"casey" Discussed on Converge with Casey Newton
"It's time for other game of converge the show that is easy to win but not impossible to lose each week we bring on some of silicon valley's most fascinating personalities and then compete to see how high they can go on the alltime converge leaderboard my guest today is mark risher a director of product management at google and the person who leads the company's efforts to fight spam from getting to your inbox before joining google and twenty fourteen mark co founded the spam fighting company impermeable and before that he was a spams are at yahoo mark do you plan to mail in your performance here today on converge absolutely not at all that's what i like to hear converge of course consists of three rounds the big idea the interview round and the wild card round and it's time to get started i game we play on every episode of convert is the big idea i asked you ahead of time to bring in your biggest and best idea of a non self promotional nature and we'll pick it apart to see what's inside points will be awarded on the basis of originality presentation profit potential and whether i personally agree with it so mark what is your big idea well casey my big idea is that everything you know about passwords is wrong that is indeed a big idea at somewhat scary idea i have to say because i feel like i've spent a lot of time over the past few years trying to learn things about making my passers better you've learned probably that you need more capital letters more numbers fewer numbers some symbols and punctuation all of that all wrong doesn't matter why is that wrong not that it doesn't matter what most people are really dealing with the real threat that they face comes from two things one is fishing and the other one is.
"casey" Discussed on Converge with Casey Newton
"Hello and welcome to converge the number six tech podcast in the world at least according to podcasts who i'm inclined to trust i'm casey newton silicon valley editor of the verge and episode three is here it can i tell you how much fun i am having so far on converge convertibles feature last week as both new and noteworthy on apple podcasts were top ten on google podcasts and most importantly we have been featured in your tweets thanks to everyone who shared the podcast last week featuring the official hashtag which is of course benghazi it is hard to get a podcast off the ground in twenty eighteen and y'all are doing so much work on our behalf and i appreciate you look this is a big week in tech if you've been re laverdure you know apple's worldwide developer conference is this week it's the annual event where developers come from around the world so apple's top executives can tell them which new features are coming to these years iphone and many years later to the max well one of this year's big announcements i don't know if you saw this but it was group facetime term painful three people actually up to thirty two simultaneous participants or more likely one other person and thirty grade out square saying you have a bad internet connection but i thought about group video chat because on episode one of convert with seamus donnie we talked about group video chat because that's what her app house party does group video chat in and of itself isn't unique but presence is an in fact on monday house party which i don't have insider information but it must have gotten word of what apple is going to do house party announced it was going to bring group video chat to the map so house party which is a mobile app is now going to have a desktop app as well so few months from now you're going to have your pick of group video chat apps one will have an emoji the other will have a red solo cup that lives in your menu bar that will be up to you to choose which you prefer what what does it mean.
"casey" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"In one direction was casey in one direction was candice right but you know how when in like sitcoms or whatever and the wife's pregnant it's like oh honey what do you need honey what are you gonna need for that and honeywood and i felt like that was the time where i needed just to be as selfish as i could possibly be not just to be selfish but like if there's a time that's forgivable if i were pregnant right now and you are traveling let's say this this whole situation was right now and i are pregnant with our second kid and you are a forty five minute flight away on boston comfortable was hysterically crying because i had it's not scabies what the fuck is it called shingle shingles and was noxious and i do anything that the whole time by the way i just uncomfortable with that word let's just say we've come a long way in our relationship right now and i called you and i said casey please i need you you would without a doubt and this is how far we've come shouldn't keep saying far become because it sounds repetitive but you would no doubt my mind that casey nice out right now with get on a plane it'd be like guys i'm so sorry i have to go to my wife she needs me back then there was no way we had an data too far we've we've both come yeah agreed because right now you wouldn't right now if you crazy russian everything hurt or you were sick you wouldn't be like screw you you monster how dare you i hate you know you'd be like casey helped me yeah and that's what you were like back then it was like.
"casey" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"But you did like everything was my fault and i had to be screened at and all of your lashing out was on me and i think that in retrospect or what we learned in therapy since then was that it's okay for you to have expressed your frustrations but they shouldn't have been directed at me and i should have been far more understanding of how shitty you had it instead of like internalizing all of that all of that like negativity that you were just throwing on yeah you aren't a very good sounding board he were like i'm like but you are now but but back then and this is the thing is that's where i'm saying is like it was at the although we'd been dating for so long on and off holy so selfish strangers almost like we were best friends but you know the minute somebody becomes your roommate you start learning all these things about them and we we never lived together prior to being engaged you know we never dated as a cohabitating couple so throw in being pregnant and the physical shit that comes along with it i mean i didn't have a rash among elbow i had what was it called don't get too graphic two chickens for adult what's it called shit it was gross like sending me pictures it was glossed gross it was painful casey no i understand somebody to blow on my back just blow on it and there was nobody around it was me and my fucking dog and i and then whatever it's fine i'm not mad at him not like actually mad at you know we've come a long way as now even now the way that you're describing it in the way that i think you're seeing your head is that i was this epithet i don't care kind of monster didn't can't it all you care about was yourself in mit it wasn't that i didn't care it was that it was impossible to it was impossible for me right a really hard time being empathetic when everything was taken out on me for example it wasn't it wasn't my back hurts it was like fuck you you monster for not being here to blow on my back yes totally and everything was like the selfishness was not a one way street named casey nice debt the selfishness was a two lane highway.