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Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Early Steelers camp stars and those were waiting to see shine

Behind the Steel Curtain

40:46 min | 3 months ago

Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Early Steelers camp stars and those were waiting to see shine

"Support for this episode comes from t. Mobile we're a lot more than just baseball. Fans were baseball fanatics and thanks to t mobile. We can stay connected to the game. We love with five gene more places. T. mobile is your ticket to the game so whether your home or away. You're never far from your favorite team with america's largest and fastest five gene network. Don't get caught looking switch to t mobile the leader and five g. today fastest according to open single awards based on average speeds in usa. Five experience report april. Two thousand twenty one to five g. device coverage and access details at t. Mobile dot com. Welcome back to the steelers hangover from behind the curtain dot com. My name is brian. Anthony davis back from a brief hiatus where i took last week off to hang out with my scouts for my scout troop in the woods of pennsylvania and it was a definitely a great week. But i did miss. Bts's nation. thanks so much. Tony and shannon white for taken over for me taking good care of me and taking good care of the show. While i was gone. I had a chance to listen to it. topnotch guys. So thank you very much. The bad signal did not have to go up and at the bad signal. We've got we've got to come up with a bad signal so so let's get into this guys so much happened and before we get back into the mix of what we're doing a guy that we wanna see shine actually two guys that we wanna see shine actually three guys that we wanna see shine actually four guys that we wanna see shine all played for the los angeles chargers either last year or two years ago and that is derek. Watt trae turner. Keelan balaj and melvin ingram so we have become los angeles east. Now we always talk about arizona. West view pittsburgh west being on arizona's or we chargers east. Tony seems like it's just turning into that. Yeah four four. Big names that they've Acquired from from them over the last four big name to four names acquired a from them over the last two years. So yeah it's it's kind of interesting pipelines turning into out that way what's going on with that shannon white. I think we're philip rivers. Finally parted ways at. He'd been such a established later for that that team You know then. They started a similar to rebuild and some other More half half-price guys. They kind of moved allowed to move on. Say a your especially after an injury. Like say ingram. Because he looks like he's going to be a perfect fit pittsburgh with his versatility And then you have. 'cause they're kind of a lame duck franchise at the moment they playing in what looks like a glorified teaches high school stadium and So they're in the process of trying to be relevant again. Where of course they have. Herbert and Hey mermaid and those Allen and they have a lot of talent on offense and they're building back but Yeah i think that we've got some guys that they maybe didn't pan out for them but could very well. Flurry share bitch work. So let's let's go to the live chat. Hear some funny stuff on here and that's funny stuff to steal a nation for one to says ingram gotta stay healthy and it's a huge win. Yeah that is absolutely correct. And he is saying all the right things he looks good. Where number eight Now i've got a new favorite number eight because it was. It's tommy maddox. And he's always going to be a favourite but now i've got a co number eight. The funniest thing that i wanted to mention a awesome stuff. Eighty three says. I bet that was kiesel diesel. That scared you in the woods. Can you imagine keyser. My ten to two thirty in the morning caveat beard. Derek watt says steeler. Chick forty six hope. He is years better this year and a lot of people agree with that. I was a brook prior that Made a mention on. derek watt. How he caught a beautiful pass from ben rothlisberger cam. He did not catch now. They she was talking about. She didn't mention that he didn't catch it. She was saying she was excited. If they were will route because we never heard of the fullback but when the the was reported further he didn't catch did here. Here's an interesting question here. Brian brown asked. This has ingram ever played middle linebacker. I think he has He's been used mostly as an edge and the steelers have been moving around on the as an edge and moving them all around in different packages so far in the couple of days that he's been here guys. Do you know about if he ever played in the middle. Did you remember last year where they would have what. And how smith kinda float into the middle a little bit before the snap and I think that that's what they're doing with him at times. Because he has kind of slid inside the rush in on the internet You know he is always stayed on the edge for the charges. But i don't know if he's been that far off the land you know. He'd be if the middle linebacker is coming up point kosher pressure lime. He's done that before. I wanna bring up. We're talking about the chargers the former chargers garrett slinger linden. He's absolutely right. Derek wasn't bad. He just never got to play tony. You see the matt. Canada offense funding away to mix him in. I think they're going to try. I think he's going to try to utilize anything can and it's going to be interesting to see what they do with that position this year because it was basically phased out the last couple of years under a last years under haley and trick nurse. Oh yeah as as what can be a big part of the office because he kinda wasn't chargers far as catching the ball of the backfire right. Wasn't he a pretty decent at that. In addition to being a special teams guy. So i think. I think you know when you when you hear reports to camp that that they're using him on all routes even though it wasn't completed i think that's that's a you know it's evidence that they're gonna they're gonna. They're going to try to utilize a little bit more assurances He stays healthy. That's the key all right. We've got a super chat from my man snowman and it's to you shannon white. I'll let you read that my friend. Welcome mr shannon to youtube side of the beat. tse family. well thank you very much. I am so glad. I gosh shannon's been here. What what does this show number six now. Shannon it's five or six. I'm not sure we're just losing track. I'm so It's so great and part of it. I cannot wait to get into the season. Where we're shannon is going to be Shannon tony on the hangover. Going to be great together because Just the analysis of games. I paint more of a picture in these guys can analyze the game. A whole lot. Better than i do so i cannot wait to have those two together on this show. We've got a three pack speaking of three packs guys. Do you know what's happening this weekend. Speaking of three pack on the sc debut. new shah. And i'm going to bring up one of those fellas chris. Pugh chargers could be very underrated this year. With the return of derwin james on defense. I like the chargers. I really do now. What chris joe. Chris jo frost paul check. They are going to be the steelers power half hour meal. nadia show. That is going to be on saturdays on a time slot. You know well tony. You used to be saturdays at noon. So so we are going to have the power half hour in the show and if you did not get a chance to check out the curtain call with jeffrey benedict and michael beck. Last week. Where they had guest. Chris carter on the show from decay. Chris was absolutely fantastic on show. Second half they had these three fellas. The steelers power half hour chris. Paul and joe on the show talking about their upcoming show. We have new shows that we're going to debut as well and they were all going to be on the audio sides definitely check them out of the new shows. We also talked about another. Show the jeffrey the new jeffrey benedict show. That's going to be popping up in a few weeks on the audio side only so it will be great to check that out We saw. I saw chris in the live chat. I wanted to bring him up as well as going to do that. At the end the show. Figured let's do it now so check. Oh that stuff new stuff as we get ready for our new fall season. It's coming up. We're in training camp to my friends training camp so shannon this is this is your two a days and so we've been to have the your day so you need to be in shape for the season and i'm going to be i'm going to be it's gonna be like casey hampton. I'm gonna wanna make sure that you're in good shape. He'll be like casey hampton yet. Five to five to sit you down because you're not condition for the for the whole week by run time around that mile. Run dorey walking in the middle. Tony as tony is a runner. So we don't. We don't even have to worry about that theory so they're your runner. Yeah the group that. I was always dead last. I mean soak so far behind. I don't even see anybody anymore. So low i am. Yeah as long as you're finishing my man so check that out chris. This week they're going to be talking about the five most crucial guys for the steelers this season. And what they're going to be doing. When we say power half hour they're gonna do their own power rankings. Each and every week it's going to be steeler oriented and they're going to be counting down so that'll be great. And you know me with casey kasem. I always love a good countdown so this is going to get power half hour. Check that out and check out all of the. Bts's shows as well. Let's get back into this now guys. Let's bring up some players. I that have shined. We're going to go around the room. Well just a with the two of you and tony. You made a mention to a guy earlier. And i'm pretty sure that you wanna talk about antoine barracks. So what are your thoughts. So far is and one brooks a starter for the pittsburgh steelers based on what he's been doing so far or is this just getting the man some extra work i think right now. It's just. It's just getting him some extra work. They're they're trying to see what they have in him. If i remember correctly from last year his draft profile he seemed to be A player without a real position as kind of how he described them from. I remember correctly so you know there's somebody that can can find a home. He's versatile obviously if he's a man with a position that means he's he could play hopefully several maybe not well but if he's a you know if he can find a way to find a niche is a slot corner for them. That's that's solves a huge problem. I mean he might not be my felton but if he can if he can play that role and you can slide cam sutton to the outside and leave him out there. I mean i think that's that could be huge. It's it's obviously too early to tell yet. I mean it's it's as shannon. It's football without pads. So but i'm gonna be really interested to see what he does Once the pastor popping and of course wants the preseason starts so care and brooms e says a brooks can hit but coverages suspect shannon. Do you think brooks is a legitimate candidate and can help push cameron sentenced to the outside like tony just said. Do you feel that. This makes that defensive backfield so much stronger and do you feel that. We were discounting antoine brooks before this preseason started when i had to write the draft article about his selection he was one of the highest rated tacklers You know college football. He's a sure tackler Excellent fundamentals that technique He's very aggressive through the ball. Big weakness is coverage and I think you run like a four six four but you guys can overcome that The way the steelers used elton. I think they would like to have brooks because he could be similar. Hilton thought was weaker coverage and he was better on everything else but he got better coverage his time went on I like arthur millette at At slot. And i think he's going to have a real shot at taking that position because he's very physical. He looks like greg. Lloyd like a smaller version of greg lloyd And he plays very aggressive. He's good blitzer. And i think you'll be end up veteran coverage and brooks so i think ended up using canada. Committee approach Especially packages you know in certain situations because works would be really good against heavy run teams like the titans or the ravens because rooks can really come up in pound that run defense but I think brooks's got a real shot to to make any impact this year. I just don't miss the full-time start. Now you brought up. Arthur millette and mike tomlin's already say an art saint him a lot. What have you noticed from. Alette the other jets defensive back that everybody wanted brian. Poole who looks like it's going to the saints now as of as of today. Possibly everybody wanted brian poole. But everybody wouldn't melik hooker in that defensive backfield as well but when you have guys like brooks and you have a guy like arthur millette. Maybe that's why they didn't go look their way because they knew what they had shannon. Yeah millette. Actually the way they fight that slot in the past without malaysia is a better than pores And he's he can actually play the or safety say gives them that position versatility and I just think that that that's why he was brought in And you know you. The people were talking about hooker but his injury tendencies You know i just. You can't count on that you know it'd be great to work that but there was a big gamble so i'm really happy with me. You know what. Tony defa was so excited when the steelers signed arthur malek because he thought his name was mullet and he had a great one of the eighties days i need. I need to see pictures of both tony. Shannon white in highschool. I need high school pictures of you guys change that much. I just had the mullet and my face was thinner. And that's about it. But i didn't change. I looked exactly like this and just a lot of hair. Well back in the eighties. I looked like the guy that people say. I am When they when a trashy online. That's what i was in my teen years with the the hair and the clothes that i wore. I don't get that. Why are they trash in your mind. Tony i find you delightful. Well thank you thank you. I don't know. I just. I try to keep it down the middle when i talk about sports so i don't know what it is probably off wanted. Gosh what you're in west. Virginia you have boots for that stuff. It's vlad any waiters. Yeah it's like the the loan sharks Limousine driver in rocky just hated rocky for no reason to rocky reference to love it. Hey let's let's talk about other guys that are shining here. Were that we need to see something of. And i'm going to bring up. I think it's jan or it could be on. It could be jenner yawn. I'm not sure if i could get it up. Why can i get it up the kebe for laughing at that. It looks like i would say jan. What do you think cassius marsh have. We every heard anything about cassius marsh in the first four days so far or has he been anonymous. Let's start with tony. I haven't heard anything Who is the guy's name it. They had a couple of years. He was kind of a veteran late twenties. He he was. He was a backup. Linebacker amy amy curl gigolo. No not him he was i kept signing him and jay. Rohn elliott elliott. That's kind of the like yeah there. Yeah like if you if you wanna glued tikolo in too. I think that's abc comparison. Because i guess you're dependent they're capable but they're not really capable of doing a whole heck of a lot. I just like you know filling in occasionally but they're not gonna make a lot of big plays that's kind of marsh reminds me of all right. We gotta do this because this is what kind of show this is. I gotta bring up port and a hear hucker. We're still talking about the shawn watson a blue massage people. I cannot confirm nor deny. I don't know all's i know is if that's the truth than Mr craft in new. England is is hoping assigned dish on Gosh woo you stop that a. Here's a guy to bring up. So let me finish up with cassius marsh. I think marsh makes this team. And i think he is your guy on special teams and he reminds me a little bit now. He's bounced around a lot but remember. Nobody was counting on. Roberts poulain much at all and now robert spelane who had a great interception a one handed interception on a on coverage on ben rothlisberger the other day. So you know that was. That was just a situation where now he's a guy that you're starting and you're not upset that you're starting the guy right. Although he is younger yeah whereas and he last year was the first real opportunity to show anything mar. Claes been around for for a while. So do oh gosh now. We got the first sapphire joke. If i knew that had happened standards. God bless sapphire Man it's it's going off the rails. It's oh yeah. I am marcus he is a. I'm being corrected here. And i think he's right and i might have made a mistake. Was that interception mason rudolph now. I'm not quite sure. Which the splaine's interception yeah. It was on rudolf. Rooks picked off being four. Yes and ben congratulated bronx. em markets. Thirty nine thank you so much for that. Correction i appreciate it man sometimes Sometimes it gets all up in that. Noggin the cranium. And your your mic. Some things up a little bit so there you go but yeah i. Now we got awesome stuff says five outside linebackers more. I think you keep a special teams guy. Yeah and that's like if you're talking about some of the young guys that you wanna see something out of something that somebody might be intriguing. It's rochet because he was so productive temple and he showed promise last year at miami. And you've got a six round picky. He's pretty decorated in college. So there's somebody that. I mean if he really dominates the competition in preseason i mean he can make he can make a big name for himself and make this roster and who knows maybe push out a guy like like clay but like you said it might keep five win and clay might be the special teams guy so the lia the top three of course. Tj melvin highsmith highsmith. Let me put him second conversation. Because those your starters than melvin melons gonna see a lot of action and remember remember how often you see you see tj with oxygen in towards the end of the day named his he he and that's not a rip on him. He needs a break. I mean they're not designed to their designed to get a break. The really are rochet. We're saying rochet number four and then number five. I mean i think they kind of look at that special teams guy as they just him on because jordan dangerfield was there. He was marked as a safety but he was not considered a safety. He played safety right now. I mean he was special teams. Only so that's kind of kind of the way you look at it. They're now guys. We've talked about guys that have shown up some guys we weren't expecting to show up. Who would be your most important guys. That really need to show up. And i'm thinking of two guys on offense right now than they were not on this team last year tony will start with shannon. Well the way the land is set up would have to say trade. Her is a trailer. It is trey. Right free t. r. a. in novo saner. Yeah trey turner and i again. I'm i'm just hoping that grain ends up winning the starting senators asian Because you know farm. Youth is a star of camp so far and he looks like he could be a complete well rounded number one tiny in For the steelers going under right but the line is even more important at the moment. And that's why. The turner needs to have a rebound season and grain needs to really shine his at star center. And i'll for a whole lot better about the the rest of the line. If those two guys can come through. Tony i disagree. That's exactly what i was thinking there. But i'm thinking of another guy and he's been in the news a lot lately for us. Something happened less personal life. Haskins dwayne haskins needs to show up to keep his job and he shows that first run pedigree in preseason and it might be something to keep in mind for next year. The interesting thing about dwayne haskins is the steelers. Don't need him to show up as much as dwayne haskins needs. Dwayne haskins to show up right so they they're in that position. The steelers are in the position that if anything's gravy you know they can get a fine. I mean this. This is no risk or reward. So that's i mean if he shows up it's going to be fantastic. Nothing going to be great but for him. He's got everything riding on this. So another guy to go ahead and look at on defense. Somebody that i'm thinking of an anthony perkins brought it up and i. He's asking questions about a certain safety trail admits. What are your thoughts. Have we heard anything about terrell. And how crucial was this for Number thirty four. Let's start with tony. I haven't heard anything yet. But i think obviously it's a big year for him because they didn't pick up his fifth year option so he's obviously has a lot to prove he's going to be motivated. You would think. But i mean he's gotten steadily better every year since his rookie year and and the thing that i love about the most. They can't get him out of out of the lineup. he's played he's been durable and and they haven't had the bench. You remember already burns. He was he was eventually benched. By is i mean i. I love god. I really excited about after his rookie year. And then he just kinda he just kind of went downhill. Whereas you haven't seen it with troas. And i think What's that saying. Wider meets its own level or something like that a crisis the top. Whatever i'm trying to say after three years if he wasn't capable of playing in the nfl if he was a liability like a lot of people think he is. I think they would have found a way to get him out of the lineup. By now so. I think you know he. He's gotten better every year. And i think you know until you toy shows otherwise. I have confidence that he's going to continue to improve heading heading into his fourth year. He's he's still really really. I mean was he twenty three twenty four something like that so shannon. Wake two part question. One terrell edmonton's is he a steeler in two thousand twenty two and two shannon white terrell edmonds if he was a second round draft pick would the steelers fans feel different about the man from virginia tech. If he'd been picked in the second round even early in the second round table would be raving about. What a great player is. I'm on everybody knows. I'm a big fan of the young man Great teammate Selfish doesn't dirty work. He's kind of ryan. Clark you know in the that combination with fitzpatrick kampala molly. He does the dirty work. His speed is such that he especially after bush went out last year. Edmonds made so many tackles and game prevented some big plays just because he could cover so much ground And he became our easily. And i mean easily our best cover guy on tight ends. Yeah he was sitting down and You know when guys had like a a big beginning of the game half. It was usually. He wasn't on them if i wrote him over on him. He shut him down I think that that. I have heard about him so far. Camp terrell austin the db coach. He's talked about him and said that he's looking great and he's looking comfortable and and he's really extra motivated because he's flavor for contract now And and hopefully he you know he has a big season but if he has a really big season he might just play himself out of our price range. But it's a gamble. You know you you wanna do that. They did it with burden. In a you know you can always franchise tag him but I wish i like you said miranda he would have been second round pick because he he's always being judged by who he for what he isn't and who he who he is and not appreciated for what he is. I cannot say that better ob. i'm a fan of number thirty four myself. I i really hope he does well. And you mentioned dirty work. You cannot have eleven stars on defense you cannot have living offense stars on the offense you need complimentary players to superstars to. You need those guys. Because i think a terrell edmonds make some makeup fitzpatrick them makes edwards. Edmonds better as well. So that's that's one of the things to look at. And i think we get lost in the fact that With first rounder. We need them to be superstars in our on our minds. When i look back i'm looking back at the last twenty years and there's some there's a lot of guys were very good picked in that position and there's only about three guys that we would return and already burns one of them. The other one. Right away. That i'm going to say of course. Drivers jones and again had a decent career in this league. Only three years with pittsburgh would be vans ziggy hood. So those are probably the and hood wasn't a horrible first round pick in the the funny thing about burns's sir. We're excited about him after his rookie year. Yeah he actually had a decent rookie year and then then it just fell apart for but without being said. There's one more guy that i want to bring up and somebody in the live chat brought him up in a. I think it was clearance the bottom up and if i'm wrong you can correct me. I thought it was clearance. But the guy. I want to talk about is one marcus allen. What have we heard about marcus allen. So far tony. I honestly have not heard from him either. I but but i really push last year how we made the transition fully from safety to inside linebacker and there's a guy that they've been looking for that sort of dime linebacker player at the guy who can play safety and linebacker for them and and you know. He seemed like he really came on last year at the end of the year. And i think that's that bodes well for his future in that both welford their deposition inside linebacker shannon white. There's another question that we had. Have anybody heard anything about the darling of the draft. The guy that jeff hartmann already has a poster on his wall and i think he has invited him to the hartman house for christmas. When percy harvard third i haven't I know that the initial depth chart has him you know is the number two behind berry and But i think he has a shot. It's going to depend on how he how he looks at in the free season but about marcus allen. If i can backtrack just a second I think allen has a uphill battle honestly Just from the fact that he's kind of havard even now he's saying he's pretty much an inside linebacker now but you got killebrew that they were on in Here's a very good specialties flair. But he could play a little inside linebacker especially in sub baggage and he could play some safety tobacco banderas. Maybe and you know you. I ask the guys always screaming. You list gilbert the third. Because i mean if he could ever stay healthy he's the perfect backup for bush In but he just has shown that. And you know so. I'm still got my fingers crossed If gilbert is injured again. I think marcus allen has a path but i think you've if gobert could somehow stay healthy And then i gilbert would end up getting that with a buddy. Johnson backing slight Now they can always keep that fifth gab. But they might wanna keep a guy who has position flexibility in a habit like calibrate so he could be a threat to our he absolutely can and i want to correct myself. I clarence Gave credit to donald nolan on that. One and donald. Sorry i i. A- i knew it was somebody that we knew. Well on the live shannon. I did make a mistake there. The the joke in the live chat right now. Is brian brown. Put this up. Go to put this up on on the screen just head is gonna explode berry is there is a very going to win this job. I i've learned not to count him out. Yeah he's got nine lives right. It is the dan. Daniel mccullers the. Yeah yeah. I'm actually going to say that the harvest gonna make it and don't worry about the depth chart now. I have a theory that most rookies are not going to be number one on the depth chart. It's very rare that they are. Now we have najji harris that is number one on the chart but that's a completely different situation. That was an open spot. You almost need to put him number one on the chart for picked. And you're you're not going to have intentions to start anybody in front of them and it would all almost insulting to say to say that you have to win the job when you expect him to win the job yes. He has to win the job. Don't get me wrong. But that's that's kind of a different a different situation there. But when we're looking at kendra corinne. Yeah you're not going to put him. Your you need dangle. The carrot for kendrick green. You needed dangle. The carrot for any of those other guys do make them fight for the job. You just don't hand hand them number one on the depth chart until you see him in action. Najji still a different story but harris from what everything. We've heard. He doesn't need me motivation. I've aid. He's got his head in the playbook and he's doing extra work you know like you said you wanna dangle the carrot but heresy. He doesn't need extra motivation Thankfully there's guys that are picked up. High quarterbacks are different story. Because you usually don't wanna put if you don't have to put them if you can have a veteran start. Well they sit and learn especially the patrick mahomes treatment. Which worked out really well if you can go ahead and do something like that. That works out. Well it's kinda reminds me of the of living on. Bell came came in as a second round pick he. He came in head and shoulders above anybody to head on the roster and it kinda handpicked him to to be their starting. They had planned for them right from the get go. And that's kind of how they played out the actually. How lot in preseason that you're with injury and he had like a bruise near w very first game neiman place so i kind of think it's nausea harris's job to lose i can't him can't see them losing it. All right guys stopped the presses. Bring this up. Michael o'malley if berry wins. Cold tonya harding. She and i know her study presses. Akina i can't see that a huge crush on tonia harding back in nineteen ninety four. Nancy kerrigan cute. But there's something about the bad girl. I like o'malley i gotta meet. Tonya harding now. That is now leaving. mrs bad. Don't worry about that. And i just put mrs bads legs danger. Say yeah i mean too much you might have. Yeah yeah. I i gotta meet tanya hardy. That'd be awesome or just have her on the show there we go. I make that happen. Michael miley. That's all. I'm saying. I i can't pull that up. This podcast is was it called be monetize. I mean like for us evidence you but let's just hope that it's the soft drink pepsi myself. All right let's maybe. I don't wanna meet her without being said it was a fun episode. Makes the next time we talk. We're going to be three days away from a football game. It's gonna be exciting. Thanks so much for welcoming me back this week. steelers pittsburgh things. Nancy kerrigan hot There you go And michael's claiming statute fair enough. All right so with that. I get on out of here and you guys. We all need to go into the witness protection program. Now so with that being said four. Jeffrey benedict michael beck. I'm dave scofield and we have three things that we would like you to do. One stay safe. Be safe to true to your old michael. Stop quit elaborating now. People are asking the message. Michael the rest. He's off the rails. Nobody quote roddy ready rowdy. Roddy piper which. Let's get outta here just when you think you've got all the answers shannon. 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I would assume with the way the things have begun for your season. Yeah no question Dan. It's you know if you look back at it for the year story where I you know. When you're eight games in we would take seven and one No question about it. So we're very happy to be sitting with that record you know but with that said we gotta start. We're not playing that well We haven't been very consistent DEIGNED to game. We haven't been burst distant within games. What I mean by that is game to game? One game offense might win. It forced forest another game. Defense might win it for us and what I mean by consistency within a game one half we may play good defense that can have may play bad defense It's just we've been a team of extreme highs and lows. I believe within gangs where we play really really well and then we play really really bad. And it's it's Kohl's for close games. It's been cold. It's called Inconsistency obviously obviously within our offense defense with all that said you know we are glad to be seven at one. Hopefully we can use these next couple of weeks to improve on some areas where we can. Hopefully you know gain some consistency. What What have you learned about some of the individuals coach with your team? I mean you you. You played a lot of young kids that maybe didn't play as much last year summer. New to the program and I I would assume you don't know everything about them. I mean you know Oh you recruit them you know. These kids is people but until they get on the floor and the lights are on and the crowd is there. You find out more about him. So what have you found out about some of the individuals on your team close. Most of them have been about what we thought to be. Honest with you they. There hasn't been any drastic surprises. This I'd say maybe devante Perkins Junior College player from out of Southwest Illinois Junior College. But he's from here in Saint Louis is probably come on a little quicker than we anticipated. we knew we could score But he's really added a AH at a double option for scores or being able to drive. It is will as well as be able to shoot. Three's probably whereas come along is on on the defensive end. You know. He's a guy we talked to. This point would make be a ten to fifteen minute game guy the develop later into the season season. Maybe twenty five minute game guy will. He's already playing thirty minutes a game just because he can score so well that might be a little bit of surprise. Everybody else is probably doing about what we thought You know what we're looking for you. Can you start with the returners George Goodwin Assan Franch obviously are leading us In a in most every category but that was to be expected elected We expect out of them. I teach her at a probably a little bit higher level than we thought. Average both average double double in both have had great. Great Games Individual Games that have helped us win. But when you go back and you start Dan when you look at you look at the new players. What we're asking from them? Is that consistency that I was talking about earlier and it starts in terms of positives and negatives and what I mean by. That is when you get in the game if you want more minutes than your positives outweigh your negatives. That's how you get more minutes. It's if you know if you're a guy that some games are getting twenty minutes I'm game. Forget ten and you want to stick to the twenty than those miniature getting sitting you've got to produce you've gotta get in there and you've gotta make more positive than you are negative and that's not happening a lot with a lot of the newcomers You know they'll have very good moments tyndall either be turned the ball over way too much or they'll be having too many defensive breakdowns or it's just extremes and we're getting caught in our negatives are outweighing are positives positives a little bit. So we're GONNA try to show these guys on film as much as we can. What we're talking about it is there's probably even talking about it gets very confusing but right now we're just not having enough positive plays were hopefully? You're positives are double to your negatives two go to one to your negative plays. We're not there right now. A lot of it is the newcomers. Can you explain coach to the fans that are are listening listening. And we have a ton of people and coaches especially that. Listen to this podcast of how you are able to gather in the positives. It's more than just assists assists in rebounds and defensive plays but I mean you're you're charting everything deflections guys diving on the floor all that stuff. What goes into that right? Right right. there's a lot we have a whole a whole grading tight sheet and it's not the end of all the ends it doesn't tell everything You know it's not a hundred percent indicator indicator but yet you have the easy ones Turnover assistant turnovers You know if that's your job if your resume somme everybody's resume says something different for a team and that resume is basically your role. What is your main role? Your resume might be to be the highest this guy low turnover guy your your resume your euro might be a rebounding might start with rebounding. Your role might start with. We need you to make some threes Your role might be to be our best defender So everybody's got their different roles and what's on their resume that they need to bring to our team every a single day but we start you know assist to turnover rebounding plus reminder. Now you go back. It's not just how many rebounds you've got that we also go back and track. How many rebounds how'd you you? You could have got sure or you didn't block out here. You know every game. I'll have a list of how many times so and so the every player how many times they did not blocked lockout In this is done by going back and breaking down we got G A assistance go back. Break down the film. I mean inch by inch second-by-second. You know you didn't block out here shown you know you didn't have you had six no blackouts in this game here. They all are So that that adds up You know defense. You're you may score six points but you gave up eighteen. Well how did you give a man blue buying here twice. Here's a you gave up a point here because you didn't rotate. Yeah that might not have been your man but in basketball. You GotTa do what we call help to help her. And you know basketball defend a lot of it is about rotating. Somebody's GONNA get beat. Your defense is GonNa get off balance at some point in your work on rotations. Every single day will maybe you didn't rotate so now. Now you've heard your team deflections now we you know we don't really get caught up in the miss shots is necessarily That's why guy like Gibson Jefferson who we is getting consistent playing time because he really he gets beat a few times on defense but he's it improved so much on defense where we believe. He's not necessarily hurting us. That his threes and his offense or actually his positives are over are outweighing his negatives So that's why you see him with consistent minutes as a newcomer But I could go on and on how great positives positives and negatives but at the end of the day The team that makes the fewest mistakes team that makes them more positive. Plays in the fused fewest. Mistakes are GONNA WIN Games. That's very broad statement but in the day. That's what's going to happen in those positives negatives start with individuals. You've coach great players in your many years in college basketball. I'm curious in terms of a guard and a rebounder. Have you been around a better guard that rebounds bounds like Jordan Goodwin Nightclub and the only guy would even be closed. That I've coached. It would be marcus smart. Marcus more rebound at this level. Not You know. And he was a high level Gourd rebounding guard But he never got nineteen rebounds on how he averaged eight or nine But gone out nineteen rebounds. You'll get interstate against a good opponent. Missouri Valley very good opponent That is hard to do only way you do. That now told our team the the way you do that is if you're playing relentless if you're locked into playing hard if you're consumed with I'm GONNA go get this rebound that's the only way you come up with. Nineteen there's no way to do it and they're still no guarantees. Even if you have that mentality that it's going to be done but I can guarantee you if you don't have that mentality it's you have no shot. You know chance so you know it just shows you when somebody and enjoy good one. I think we would all agree We've never faulted his How hard he plays an hour? He competes that's never in question And to get nineteen eighteen rebounds schist is very impressive. You've got two lane coming up out in Arizona. You've got Auburn coming up. How are you number one one with health in particular a guy like Fred Thatch? I know a lot of people are curious about that and Casey Hampton and then this tell us a little bit about those two opponents coming up where we're trying to get healthy and we're not it's terrible right now we've got a lot of nagging injuries. you're a college has been dealing with right and left hand thumb injuries the whole season. That's really holding back especially if eight year you know. He's been turning the ball over. But it's I attributed a lot to to these stumped deal. He usually does it practice day. Four Games just precautionary. That's my that's me doing that. Not Him So hopefully we can use these next couple of weeks getting better state same thing. Casey Hampton doing the game here that I probably showed enough He was he was cleared clear to go but he's not one hundred percent quite yet at that you know not to get too deep into it. you know. He's just you know no he's been dealing with some cramping things that we're trying to get straightened out different things like that that he might need to take some time off So I I'm I'm expecting him to be out for a little bit Right now we don't really have a timetable You know right now so You're that's the kind of day to day at excoriate but it just a lot of nagging things That we just need to get lined out right now absolutely and how about two lane coach in in your approach. The next we'll wrap it up here but you know you got a lot of practice time potentially so let's start with two lane and then how you handle just a a couple of games in basically two weeks gives you some time on the floor of the kids. Yeah you know. It's interesting to laying. We'll start with them. It's you know. I was reading an article just yesterday the day that they might be the most improved team in the country this year and one of the most surprise teams in the country this year to this point compared to where their record was last year to where the record is right now and who they have beaten They're a team that took all transfers and the all season I think for their five starters are transfers. Weren't even there last year. It's your trans transfer from Kansas. Who played thirty seven points the other day who started a Kansas has some A starter from Georgia to point guard. This started Georgia. The last couple of years is on their team This is a team right. Now that is an se Gubbay type team by the end of the year that we'll be playing so we've got our hands full and it's a good game for us to be playing They're legitimate. I know all coaches like to pump teams up but if you studied a roster he started to record you see who they beating It will. It's not hard to figure out this. This is a this is a high level opponent. We're playing on Sunday and Phoenix in too late Especially older experience and transfers and everybody high-level level transfers so. That's that's a it's a it's a good game really good game we're going to be playing Against a very very good opponent and then I see the next game against Auburn week later. you know the top twenty top twenty five right now so Enough final fourteen from last year they've already beaten three top twenty teams already so that that's going to be a great challenge so we've got to get better You will any performance. We've had to this point won't be good enough. We gotta be better We've got to play better in both games in order to have a chance But you know that's where you want to be sitting here seventy one. You need to go play. High level opponents You need to see where you stand. it's good for program. Hey coach thanks so much we appreciate it and We'll catch up next week so much appreciate it.

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The Scho Bro Show, Part 1: Will the Steelers have any first-time Pro Bowlers in 2021?

Behind the Steel Curtain

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The Scho Bro Show, Part 1: Will the Steelers have any first-time Pro Bowlers in 2021?

"This episode is brought to you by. Espn plus the final chapter in the rivalry between dust. Emporia and conor mcgregor will be written on july tenth that you have to sixty four which is exclusively available to espn plus subscribers for sixty nine ninety nine visit espn p. l. Us dot com slash. Spotify pittsburgh steelers fans will welcome to another episode of the scarborough show in his tuesday in. It's just after nine. pm. This is where we are. This is what we. I am behind the steel curtain editor. Dave scofield coming at you once again and with me as always is my big brother. Rich rich how you doing tonight. And a melting. Yeah i was gonna say. I should have brought on but i should have brought down my little heat miser figuring input here because let me tell you what we are sizzling out here in the mountains and typically in the mountains. You always have at least some breeze. There is no breeze. I'm dying here. So if i pass out in the middle of the show it'll be because i got overheated because i'm drinking heavily jerky turkey. Plenty of your water. So yes so concentrated water. I got lots to drink. I'll tell you what it is hot here. I i know it's hot here. It's way hotter here that it is there but the difference is a listening. Nobody has air conditioning in their whole house. Where you where you live is just not mantis but where we are going to upgrade at some point when we upgrade our furnace. we're going with two they We're yes it's killing me. I bet my bedroom has air conditioning. Yeah so do the show from america's they would like to sleep you kind of wonder why. Nfl has nothing going on this time of year. Do you know why because stinking hot. I don't know if that's really it or not but it really does help. I mean think of how hot it is when training camp starts thinking how i mean you've gone to preseason games. Preseason games can be all night games. You know why because they're miserable. They're still really stinking hot even then. That's just how it goes. Football is meant to be played in the fall. That's why it's the best season ever of everything. I can't wait for the fall. I don't wanna wish way the summer but you know what bring it on. I'm ready. i'm ready for steelers football. We are less than a month away from training camp pipes up and says yes at least my bedroom as ac. He's sampson there. Sometimes on the floor because it gets too hot even in his bedroom which is in the basement. What my wife. Stop the cheats about snyder's snyder's of berlin. Yeah we've got that snyder's of hanover. Junker not say junk. It's not terrible but it's not to berlin hanover. Pretzels are tough to beat. The they're really okay. They do the best pretzels. I think i've ever had but snyder's berlin chips yes for those. You don't realize what we're talking about. we've taught. We talked about our our experiences when we went over the steelers schedule whenever it came out in may everyone was talking about the schedule. We took a whole different take on it. We talked about the experiences of games and which gains would be better. We talked about what we do when we go to games all that that was our first show after they came out with the schedule. Release because you would hurt a bunch of other stuff from us already so we thought we would do it in a different way. So that is that rich. Haven't done a show with you in a week. Boy for the abc's that we should get a bunch of news in one day last thursday. Yes we did. I was actually when that day went down like you know what. I'm glad we're not sure although you and bad and jeff had me laughing so hard i had tears running down my face trying to be quiet because i'm i got my headphones in. Listen in the bedroom. And i'm like what's wrong because i was trying not to even move but i was laughing. You know just shake it. She's like is everything. Okay i was like oh my gosh. This was so funny. So how issue was part. Two of the of the preview. And i will tell you this. That was by far out of the park. Nowhere close to anything else. He's ever done brian. Anthony davis best closing thoughts. He's ever brought because he really brought it full circle it was it was fantastic and if you know what i should have been on that. Show a little bit because out of broken out my austin powers. Oh yeah so. Oh be hi. Andrew barr says. Avoid the beehive. There's a little bit more to that. Maybe we'll get into that again on the freeview on thursday. So rich did you see the decastro thing coming. Yes yes something was. When he was the only person not to participate in mini camp. I knew something was wrong. It's i'll be honest. It was when they brought in somebody. Minicamp ended on thursday and they brought in a not just a guard. A right guard friday. Now there's there's reports going out at this time where there's one certain beat writer for the steelers that will just we don't want to call them out one way or the other. There's they've never really given us reason to not believe what they say but they had a source. I would question the source more than anything but the source was turner was not brought in because decastro on the first visit. He was brought in. Because kevin dotson didn't show up to mini camp in football shape and they didn't know if they'd be able to count on him in twenty twenty one if you see. I don't even. i'm not even on instagram. But he does work outs on instagram. And i've seen where people have taken graham workouts and put him on twitter if you see that and there's no way you could say that he's that that was the extent of what they're trying to say. I mean really it. Was that bad that you when you were that cash-strapped that you were going to have to go bring in somebody else. Because of that was the concern. I mean it made sense to do. It went once the castro was released. Yes but so what. What are your thoughts on that real quick before we get onto other things. Well i thought it was crap because he did participate in mini camp. At least in decastro had not yeah. And and i want to do it so bad. I want to do it so now. It's all right. We've been to the. But dave remember where we used to go as kids in central new hampshire together. The fun spot. Yeah right yeah sunspot. It was my it is. If you've never get the chance anybody out there if you ever go to central new hampshire the ears ears beach on lake winnipeg sake. There is an arcade called the fun spot and it coins itself as one of the world's largest arcades and it's where the movie king of calm was filmed. I you know that now. Wait a minute. I await. you weren't with us on. You didn't know i wasn't there i wasn't i wasn't on the last trip. We talked about that in a lot. Which is why she had to get her picture next to the donkey kong machine gotcha so and without saying anymore we can move on if people are smart enough they can put together and if not then. That's okay. yeah. I think some people they know where it's coming and it doesn't honestly. I'm not even worried about whether report came from. I'm not going to. But i thought that was. I thought that was week. Yeah i would. I would have wanted more than they ran with on that especially when it's when they say well we can't say he told us because i don't wanna burn my source well then going out and publishing. That then probably wasn't a good idea. Yeah that's one of those tough calls that with that. I have to admit that you have things like that like well. You coming back shown he is doing workout and if he shows up is in great shape. Somebody's got egg on their face. And it's not kevin dotson. Exact and datsun has come out and said just go back and look at my workouts so i mean i understand how it is sometimes when you get information from a source in your like at what point can i do it. I'll be honest with you. I when when this when all this news was breaking about the steelers schedule someone had a schedule. That was out. They said oh. Here's this dealer schedule. I already knew. It wasn't true. Because i had an inside source that specifically gave me one game of the steelers and i wanted to be that person that could put it out there that i have. The steelers are playing this team at this week at this time and this location although we knew the location and we just lost rich. But i'm sure he'll be back and i did not do it because the source said they were concerned about and now maybe we're back for some reason rich. You took me away rather than break yourself in so gone for just a moment. You're okay but yeah sounds issues on my end. I'm sorry yeah sometimes you can get information from a source and you have to ask yourself. Should i really be sharing this. You know and like an. I've i've been there before. I'm sorry that knowing when the steelers played one of their games in twenty twenty one. I've never seen the kid com. So that is our sister by the way the brought that up for you in the audio it says king of kong is so nerdy. I thought they would be an expert. So yeah. I've i've heard of king of i've just. Isn't that a netflix thing. Was it on netflix. I don't i don't get net flicks. I can't tell you anything about. And i still can't believe you but anyway anyway so that was that so we trade turner's now now with the pittsburgh steelers much cheaper rate than decastro. Basically he counts just under. I mean just over a third of what decastro salary cap it would have been for the sheer see. That's a good thing. That is a good thing. So that's a good thing so if you're going to if you're going to have to make a replacement and if you want to know anything more about that. Kevin smith also known as comparison still a punk on the website behind the curtain dot com one-stop shop for all things. Pittsburgh steelers had a great article about stuff with two hundred day. Honestly jeffrey and i that was going to be our vertex. this week. We had to bump into next week because it was so much stuff about about turner. We're we're we're gonna like let's let it also get a little bit so we have something else coming this week last thing. How bummed are you that you can't take kyle to latrobe. I was tied to you. Would be i thought about he. I mad the y'all and other into that more in the second half of the show. why. I met gotcha. Okay we can do that. I met yes there might have a chance to do to try to keep it heinz field instead. They're they're don't wanna go to heinz field for games. I wanted to get a latrobe fraternity. You wanted to be somewhere different. Very good West asked the question. I want to say. He says if a grievances filed by the castro and he wins. What if any would affect me. On the current cap it they would have to do an injury settlement. I don't know that that counts towards the cap. But i will tell you. This agreement is going to be very tough because decastro signed a clean bill of health at the end of the twenty twenty season. So anything that was coming back from that is why they they can deem it as a non football injury and this is a debate. We've been having as a staff on our slack channel with some various things. At what point so ask you this rich. Then then the slack channel blew up my phone. Bing bing bing question is at what point does a chronic condition be considered a football injury. You know if you're talking bone spurs and. He's had him since he injuries rookie year. And they're like well that i mean to even go on the injury reports. I mean if you're talking that because he has bones. I from an injury his rookie year. That should be on the injury report then. He should have been on the injury report every week of his entire career. Are you telling me that every week. Next next season zach banner devon bush needs to be on the injury. Report for me because at acl surgery dispatched. Here i mean at what point is it beyond that. Because i'm michael beck chime in here as someone who played college football. You play through injuries. All the time i mean. Do you know how many times i was banged up and never said a word to a coach or anything i mean. Imagine so much in the pros. What you're getting a paycheck. I'm sure he's been more in college when you're trying to get their to get that paycheck but you don't want to lose any playing time so i mean how much did the steelers even know about if the bone spurs were bothering him but then my question is okay. What if ben rothlisberger suffers would've suffered a knee injury as a rookie. You know missed a couple of games and now that he's thirty nine years old. He's got arthritis in that knee. That flares up on him is that a football injury. Is it not you know. Then you're talking about the injury report you've got cam hayward who has asthma. That could contribute into him being his availability. How much you could be available in a game. If something comes up with him this you have to be on the injury report every week with abba would that be if his asthma causes him to have a problem in the future to where he can't play football anymore to see get an injury settlement or is that a non football injury. These are just interesting questions to ask. You wanna give anything with any thoughts that or when when you all were having that discussion. I just kept myself out out of that large discussion because it was going good enough without me but i actually thought of myself. Okay yeah i have deteriorating disks in my back yes i have huge issues in my back one of which was some of which was caused by an injury when i was twenty years old but i would have had deterring in my back anyway. Now would football if i was a football player. Would that have been good for the deer deteriorating disc in my back no would it have been the cause of the deteriorating in my back probably not but it wouldn't help them what i get an injury settlement. I'm no. I shouldn't get an injury settlement. That was going to how it is. Anyway that's just a part of life. That's you get older. You get things. Yeah and i mean. Aj in chat brings up justin fields. Who had epilepsy like alexandria. Did if something with that. If something in football causes that to come up. I mean that these are all great. Now with the castro. We don't know if he would have had bone spurs if he did or didn't have that injury. I have bone spurs. You know. And i don't. I don't there are several different things that can factor in it. It could be an injury it could be over use. It could be diet. It could be you know weight on like especially in your feet or ankles. You know these are all things that can factor in. and what point was it definitely. Football was wasn't this is something that he's had his whole career. It's a kind of a greater. Jeffrey monarchic about that. That was out today just kind of raising some issues. There was one person. I can't remember who it was the credit in the comments. It said take this away from football. Just put it in people in everyday life you know and kind of brought up. The whole point is like how much you wanna bet the guy hanging you. You drive by construction site. a guy. Hanging sheetrock might have a problem with his back. Or what does he do. does he go. Does he go on workers comp or does he take some tylenol. You know this is how it is. It's this is not just a football thing you sometimes have to think about. You have to ask yourself. What are you willing to play through that. You're realizing is just how things are. And what is actually an injury. It's really it's it's a good question you know. West wants to know what a bone spur is really a. You're the answer that rich or you want me to go ahead. It's it's basically an excess growth of bone usually at a joint. Sometimes it happens because of an injury because the body's trying to heal itself sometimes. It's just that because of overuse it's trying to strengthen the bones there which causes it to to be more. I'm i would not be shocked at. That's the problem. I have even in my shoulders. That i i that i have bone spurs that allows me that makes it catch to where i can't even throw overhand anymore. I can't play catch with my son and things like that. I have them in my feet and some of that was i. Think throwing the shot him. What has a lot to do. You have them in your ankle. Your he'll on my one foot. I actually have it on the side of my foot. Which was from an injury and the other foot. I have it up against my achilles which sometimes just makes it just flare up big time so yeah and just came in and said yeah. It's extra calcium. That's your bitch. Your body's producing more and like jeevan just your your diet like some people. Will your body will handle certain things for your diet and in certain places like you might develop more of a bone. Spur than you would have kidney stone. You know what i'm saying. Sometimes they're similar things so it's different for everybody and like i haven't had surgery or anything to do with my burns bone spurs yet. Because they have. I probably should look into my shoulder once but i. They haven't kept me from doing things that i do in my everyday life and that's what to cashiers. We've talked about this a very long time. And i really want to get to our topic so anything else you want to say about it before we move on. Let's have our topic for the man. It took us a while there. But there's some good stuff good good points to bring up the live chat. Thank you all just in case. You're wondering it's still hot here. It's still know the question is we were looking at. We're trying to figure out how to frame this. 'cause we were looking at players making the pro bowl that we were saying. Should we say that. They're under the radar unexpected. Or he's saying it's their first time and we're trying to figure out the best way to frame it and we really want with first time pro bowlers. Because of their some people that haven't made the pro bowl that might not be under the radar so we just went with first timers and so let's review. Who on the current steelers roster has made the pro bowl rich. Give me one ever their career. The one you forgot one yet short. Say it ju. Ju juju smith schuster okay. I'll see the only other one. That's on the offense right now. Ben rothlisberger ten on offense to on offense to offense four on defense where you consider the other one. Yeah cameron haywar came hayward tj. What meghan fitzpatrick joe haden. And then the other one is chris. Boswell was the specialist. Okay so those are the seven that are that are disqualified from the list. They can't be on our lists because they've already made the pro bowl we want to know. Is there somebody else. That's going to step up and make the pro bowl this year. We're doing our top five. That's what we've been doing. We're going to count them down. Rich what he you got number five number five. Brought up someone. Because i forgot. What did they made a bowl but not. I didn't know i'd not. I didn't do that because they weren't as a steeler. Okay right make sense okay. But i didn't go with that person anyway. 'cause i didn't either but we'll bring it up because reverse now known as b. m. k. Mob kennel said eric. Hebron he has made a pro bowl. He's made the pro bowl but not as the banal with the steelers. So yeah so. I left him off because of that. We kinda i kinda counted him but that decline now and our so what. We forgot another specialist. Oh yeah because he made it as he made his return. It return. But i wasn't bigger about him as a returner because he's not no runner anymore. So that i cry so even if we did use him it wouldn't it would have to be as regular position so why is a wide receiver. Yeah all right so go ahead rich so number. Five is my one that i consider to be more of one of my under the radar. Maybe not thinking. This is a guy that that is probably a stretch on my list. But i'd love to see a pro bowl year out of him. If you see a pro bowl year out of this player very very very very good things are going to be going on for the pittsburgh steelers. In my opinion. I put number five robert spillway. Why i think splaine comes in grabs a majority of the inside linebacking duties next to devin bush and could potentially impressed folks enough to maybe make a pro bowl. Wow that's that's my really out of the box. One that i told you about. I think spelane could have as much as a shot as the special teams best person which is funny. Because someone asks have medicaid. Which did he did not. He led the the fan votes but he didn't get selected. Derek watt did not make it either as either a back or the specialist. I checked into that that that would be crazy. Here's mine and you're going to think that this is like why did you put this all the way down at number five. And there's a reason. And i'm gonna explain this reason when i give it because there's another person that goes for. And that is steph onto it. And the reason. I'm putting steph onto it on the list but all the way down as number five is because when you only pick two players per conference from the same position and the other person that that position from your team is came hayward has been making it you either a got a dominate. So much that you both make it or be you have to overtake the other person on your team. So steph onto. It could do it but he would basically have to do it. In place of cam hayward would be his likely route. 'cause i don't see the nfl that put to defensive interior defensive lineman on their from the same team or you could say. Well if he's listening to maybe he's out then that's even harder and that's the same reason i put. Who's not on my list. Alex highsmith kind of in the same thing you could say. What if he has a big year. He's got a basically off. Tj watt because. Do you think they're going to put to edge russia's from the same team in the pro bowl that would be really really difficult to do so. Yeah so that's even those sacks but that's why i considered to it and left ended up for the my number five spot but ended up thinking it might be easier to sneak splaine in there than to gotcha. Okay all right. So that's what we have so far you ready for number four chore before. Stick it on a defensive side of the football going with another big man up front at nose. Tackle mr see. That's the same thing is to it. I put him in the same category. 'cause they don't do nose tackle separates so you haven't as an interior defensive line because they used to take nose tagore now don't anymore and that irritates me. Oh either had it last year. If that's what they did. Because you know i mean for a while you couldn't get a steeler nose tackle in there because you had vince. Wolfert always was goblin. That up. that spot you know and it irritates me that you know they don't do trudeau's tackling i. I agree i for nine number four. I'm going the other side of the ball. I am and you're probably wondering why i'm going number four and i'll explain this out part of the reasoning i'm going i'm going with the rook. I'm going with harris. I thought about it but just couldn't do. I go with nausea harrison. I think he has a chance to make the pro bowl if he comes out. And you know is basically derrick henry. Two point if you know what i mean. You know if that's what he comes out to. Now the reason i have not higher on this list. And you're saying oh you would put you put him on but not ahead of these people is because looking around the afc look who he would have to knock off in order to get one of the basically two spots they give for running backs. I mean there's a lot of good running backs you're talking dare can re you're talking chubb. You're talking. you know players players like that that he would have to then go ahead of so. I think that's a little bit more difficult. But i still think it's possible. So that's why he's my number four on. We got a call. I've got to say something back on on here. West puts up allow suffrage. Casey hampton treatment. He's an unsung hero. Except for one problem wes. Casey hampton made five profiles. Yes he did. Yeah he did now. But he doesn't make any all-pro giddy. Now you know why. Because if i if i am not a hundred percent sure i'm just trying to go for memory if i recall correctly. Pro bowl was doing nose tackles but was not correct when hanson was around. I i've remembered thank you right. I know that happened at some point. And i think it was during the casey hampton era. But i can't say for sure. It was during the era. But i'm pretty sure that happened at some point so that was that. Was those interesting so there we go. You have splayed. And i'll do i have to it and harris so let's one more before we take a break. Okay now i want to switch over to the offensive side of the football and this is where i'm going to say even though he made it as a kick returner he's making this year as a wide receiver and that would be dj. Okay you're gonna say deontay. Johnson what you're allowed to do because he has not made it as a wide receiver that fits our criteria that he could come out and make the pro bowl. I think that's a really good choice and rather the break down. I'm gonna give you my number three. Okay go ahead. My number three is chased klay poll. Okay so the question was which wide receiver to go with with me and i was. I wasn't sure which one to go with. Throw a no. You put more than one on your list. I only put one on my list. And i went with chase klay poll just because he's a honestly i bowl voting especially with the offensive line. You know is about name recognition but it still happens with other positions and i think with the rookie year he had last year. The klay pool is the bigger name out there. Not just around players and coaches but with fans around the league. And that's why i gave him the advantage wide receiver. What do you think. I can't argue your point. And i can't argue point because dj. It's not targets if as long as you keep works on catching them. He's got to catch the ball so with that we're going to go ahead and take our break and when we come back we'll finish are less and also we have a really fun announcement that rich is going to be bringing to us partway through the second. Half that has to deal with. I don't know just just social experiments social experiment which also would wall one sco two point. Oh so we'll be we'll be looking at that and finishing up our list. So if you're with us on the audio side go ahead and click depart to if you're here on youtube or facebook stick around we've back in just a moment.

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Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Steelers trading places through the decades

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Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Steelers trading places through the decades

"All right let's get back to. My name is brian. Anthony davis alongside means tony defoe. Shannon white has joined the fun here as well and shannon is going to be hanging out with us white a bit here on the steelers hangover. And we're so glad to have him. You know him. If you're checking us out on the editorial side with the great articles the chain rights also shannon white he is. I just found this out. He is the founder of the james peer fan club. He has a costa. I just found. I talked to his family. He is a poster of jane's pierre in his bedroom and that is just absolutely amazing. So i i hope he's right. I love it. So i gotta say this before we get started and i tell you get so we get back into this. If you're not checking out the audio only podcasts. You need to do it if you're not chicken outlets ride this morning. Let's ride was phenomenal with jeff. Hartmann tomorrow the live. Mike with michael back and fridays again. You're going to have let's ride. Then the steelers stat geek. One of my all time favorite shows with wien. This guy comes out with amazing stuff. And that's dave scofield co editor. Dave scofield he finds the stats and he works. If you bring up a stat that he needs to go look for. He is tireless when he does it. So it's absolutely amazing. And there's great music on those shows as well and that's courtesy of the jerry cherry band who is welcoming shannon to the show. So when you hear hear that intro and tra altro those am shows it's jerry cherry and he is f. Lee phenomenal check him out on his youtube channel as well so this is what i wanna tell you. Not only those shows. But tony and i we're in the mix with ram show the retro show. It's a great chance to go back in time. It's another unorthodox show. You're all these new shows. We like to go back into our black and gold delorean in a we check out games from yesteryear. It gives us an excuse. I get to tell my family. I'm working when i'm watching the steelers and bills from nineteen seventy-nine fool games and it's awesome and i'm going i feel like i'm going back in time. I feel like. I'm sitting in three rivers stadium doing it and i like one thing that i feel like i'm doing. I feel like i am one of those fifty five thousand seats on that on that concrete and girder. That is three rivers stadium today just about an hour ago my son was out and he he helps out one of my scout moms in and she has an ice cream truck and she's from pittsburgh and he came home and said that i've got something for you and i'm like what is that and he presented me a plastic bag and the plastic. Here's a plastic bag in. The plastic bag included this This is a piece of three rivers stadium. Wow and her. Dad got it because he lived right by the stadium and when it went down he was able to get a couple of pieces and this is a he got this twenty years ago and it is now mine and i was in tears receiving this because i have a piece i almost. I almost bought my wife. Tried to convince me to get it and it was when we first started going out. I almost bought a seat from three rivers stadium. I will own one of those one day. I've spent a lot of ice. Oh my first game at three rivers stadium. December fifth nineteen eighty two. Excuse me nine hundred. Eighty two with my dad. I can't believe i almost messed that up With my dad bradshaw seventy five yards. John stallworth but now i have a piece of that stadium and a lot of people that look at this are just gonna see a broken piece of concrete to me. This is glory and this is three rivers stadium. So thank you. So much to my friend christina. Thank you so much to connor for presenting to me. This is i will cherish this forever. So i just wanted to bring this up. And we're talking about the nineteen seventies. we're talking about the one thousand nine hundred eighty s and other great things in nineteen nineties. So that's what i got. So i'm so you know what brian if you put if you've made a necklace if you put a necklace on that and you went to cleveland in whoever their owner is they're they're they're bigger mayfield's neck he would be he'd be like kryptonite kryptonite. Yes they hardly flavor horrible joke but whenever you know what i mean well it was nice having tony on the show. We'll all right shannon. Says just you and i. I tell cabin with the screen. I don't know that was really weird. Maybe that was your kryptonite so now that was just a lot of fun. I did jerry to thank us. And i guess i did. I did mess up. So i'm going to bring this up. Jerry says to me out show is the ending part of a show of a song. But what what i'm saying is the altro to the show when we go into commercial. That's what i meant by altro but steelers pittsburgh says this. And i'm learning because i did not know. This altro is a layman's term. For coda so very interesting so we learned something about music as well so i might have If i did screw that up. I do apologize. I i'll have to go back. We'll have to check instant replay. But i'm just going to say that. I was probably wrong kathy for it. You know how much i love. Kansas kathy and Kathy says much better than my chunk of the berlin wall. That is pretty awesome. If you've got a check of the berlin wall frady darn cool. Michael o'malley whoa. Whoa michael o'malley. I own game pants just like bad. I just found the finney payments. I don't know i'm sure. You know this shannon white. I have my very own pair of bj. Finney game were pants and they don't fit me because apparently according to zach banner. Bj finney had the smallest waste ever. And when you look at the pants he wears a size thirty eight and he's a three hundred man. That's just did you know i only those pants. I look absolutely dreadful. So i'm trying to drop the lbj's because my wife says you cannot wear those out. I am not only the pants. But i like i black games to his own hub. 'cause i'm really i'm really on the team So whoa whoa. Whoa so mike. O'malley you've got elaborate. He says his fit better. You don't have fini's who do you got you. You've gotta we can't finish this show. We can't go onto the eighties until you let us know that. So that's really great So dusk thunder has the old nineteen seventy nine iron bears. I do still have some with with some in it but man they can when they leak. That's smell that. Trust me i. I would rather i would rather smell casey hampton after today's than smells here. So so we'll wait on mike o'malley but while we're doing that let's go to the eighties so we're going to bring a guy in from the nine thousand nine hundred from two thousand nine hundred eighty s and you don't have to bring him a superstar you could bring in a guy that just hits nine hundred eighty s still one of my favorite absolutely one of my favorites dealer decades. They were because i grew up with that. And tony to two. But for me. I i just thought those teams were a lot better than history says that they were. Who would you add. And i'm going to start out with shannon white. Let's add somebody to the nineteen eighties in this. Probably be simple or could be difficult. Well the eighties heads. Pretty good offenses. But the defense started getting older and I would have to bring james harrison in the eighties. The reason why is because he was he was so violent is so physical that he would have been filed with the rules in the seventies and eighties that they started to penalize them for later in his career and he would have been a great addition with this physicality that would have been perfect for him. I love deebo. Their tony thoughts. I like it. I like it. I think that's perfect. I think he would shannon. He would have been a much better era for him as far as you know the playing on the fringes of the of the Yeah i i like it. Wow i i really like that. Because i think he's i think he's his hairs jack lambert anyway as far as like all the fans just love depot and. He's probably going to be his nine jersey. It's going to be the fifty eight. You're going to see all the legacy jerseys twenty thirty years from now. They're all going to be ninety. Two's like they're all fifty eight today. So i think he. He would fit much better in the eighties. Here's my question. Tony brought them up. Because i was because he was a middle linebacker. So there's not going to. You're not replacing jack. Lambert project lambert was gone after they before season. But could you imagine deebo and jack lambert on the same team in the locker room. I mean that. I mean they talk about the the the bad apples that were were the oakland raiders with atkinson and jack tatum. My gosh these guys man. They would have been the criminal element and got not in a bad way. They would just you would be. You would lose before you got into stadium. You'd be until intimidated so that would be absolutely awesome. I i would. I would love that and we do have an answer. Looks like mike. O'malley has number twenty four so he has game pants from taylor bass me. I think that's amazing when i go. Wow swaggie but and you know what we were talking about the retro. Show tony and i when we watched games especially now michael guy. I'm one of those michaels in collins worth guys. I love those too. A lot of people disagree with me on on collins worth so. I'm fine with that. But every time i taylor would say swag in our michaels was just priceless love it. He was understandably funnier. He's still is so tony. You're the gm from the eighties. You got one of these great steelers in who you bring it in. That's easy if you recall are many retro shows the from the mid eighties. The issued a tight end like six times a year. Especially if benny benny cunningham retired or they got rid of them. So i would have to go with mother. Because i don't think they could ignore him. Great in franchise history as far as stats. You get a weapon like that on that team. With with with louis. Lips in sean star with eighty seven. I think he would be a valuable weapon for them. That somebody else mention heath to and that's that's absolutely amazing to me. Wow i like that. I'm going in a different direction. And i'm going with a i'm jerry jerry here and i am going big ben but michael o'malley says this to the eighties. I send mason rudolph. Here's the thing you know. That's not a joke. that's not a joke. I think you could send mason rudolph ben roethlisberger. You could send neil o'donnell you could send any of those guys to the nineteen eighty s and you were going. You could send tommy. Maddox to the nineteen eighties. I would send any one of those guys because they needed quarterback help mark malone. He may have looked like tom selleck. But now now that's blasphemy. They compare them thumbs up time. Now go way tom selleck. Great an amazing in you. Don't put them in that same character. That category why because mark malone threw a bad pass and blamed his receivers not a market bologne guy because of that. I thought he was too arrogant for a bad quarterback and mark malone was not a good quarterback for the eighties. I like bobby a lot. Because bubby had swagger bubby did not have bu- bobby did not have the have the players around him but bubby did not have the ability. That some of these quarterbacks that i just mentioned big ben would be amazing. I mean they would have won a lot of games with big ben back. However i'm going to go with michael malley and say mason. Rudolph could have won a lot of games with that team. Are we off. Base or tommy. Maddox would a lot of games with that team. So what do. They neglected the quarterback position for years. They didn't really invest in a quarterback Between mark malone and cordell really. I mean they they they never. They hired a third round. Pick on one until cordell ninety five. So any really. Decent quarterback may have made a difference for them as far as being super bowl contender again in the eighties. They had a pretty decent defense. People don't remember that but really these defense in the in the through to like the mid eighties s before they fall off again. But yeah i think i think one of those quarterbacks you mentioned you could have helped them in eighty four eighty three. But if you're gonna win it all in the eighties. You gotta take big ben so there you we've got a. We've got about twelve minutes to get three more decades. Under as i was just man. I was going off on a bunch of dan the night so i apologize for that. But that's what the show's all about. How do you cure a hangover. Any way you possibly can. And that's what we do on this show so the nineteen nineties. Let's go a little rapid fire not to rapid. But let's go a little more tony. Who you the nineties. Well he's already been traded into the eighties but that team was so good and it was one player away from winning it all and they need a quarterback. I would have to go with big ben to the eighties. Or actually i'm vetoing he's gone he's been traded. Would after a terry bradshaw terry bradshaw nineties. And they win one or two super bowls very interested. I was not thinking i. They needed a little more than i thought they were. Fine enough in the nine hundred ninety s with neo. Don on kordell stewart. I thought maybe you could have gone a different direction. But i'm going to accept that trade shannon white. Are you going in the nineteen nineties hours. I wanted to say something about the eighties. That i'll forever which we drafted dan marino. And i'll just leave it there because they would have won at least two three more lombardi trophies if they would big team but as far as the nannies go That agree with tony. I was gonna say being Because i think that the. I don't think that the quarterback position was up to par in the nineties and i think they cost them that at least one super bowl. I think they could have went with better play where they lost. The chargers in afc championship game gave shouldn't have been that close Junior say played out of his mind that day out. Ever forget that one of the best defensive performances i ever seen and but the steelers had the better team but I would probably go with somebody along. Lives of franco harris. I don't know if i could take from the seventies and that super bowl team didn't really have the running game and that would take the pressure off. No doubt he wouldn't had been stuck in that situation if he'd had a guy like franco runabout. So i'm gonna go. There's a couple of places that i actually would've gone here. But i love that defense. I mean we could've we could've added to the the Defensive line but one of the. When i think of the ninety s i think of really one guy at wide receiver because lewis lips was ninety. One was his last year and i think of yancy thigpen as being v wide receiver. So i am going to go ahead. We can go a number of directions here. But i'm going to go with antonio brown and i'm gonna put antonio brown on the nineties team and this is pre concussion free birth antonio brown and i'm putting him with the ansi thigpen and i'm letting him go crazy. And i think you have a more potent offense with antonio brown without team. I think he makes o'donnell donald better quarterback. I think he makes he definitely makes cordell quarterback to in that situation and early part of the decade with with bobby so let's go ahead and put number eighty four aby to the nine hundred ninety s. I like it. So wow i can't believe you guys green with me They needed a need one thing to put them over the top they they they just need that one more player that puts them over the top. They never quite you and the big games. They always came up. Short and abc for waiting can say about the guy. He was always a big gain player. He always came through in the clutch. There's nobody can deny that. He always came through in the clutch. No i t's a lot for the shannon. I don't know if you know this. But i am not an a neil o'donnell hater. I'm actually not. And we're seeing a lot of a lot of golf for neil o'donnell on the i get it. I get what happened. I don't hate the guy i thought he i. I consider him. Probably the third or fourth best quarterback in pittsburgh steelers history. And an. i'll probably. I got put them behind bobby lane so i am going to put him fourth. Some people put kordell. Stewart ahead of them so i don't think he's any lower than fifth. That's the justin have. They just didn't have it there so for you guys. I wanna put ben rothlisberger. Yeah ben roethlisberger would have been amazing in the nineteen ninety s. But i'm a i just don't think he was. He was the guy that ruined it for everybody as much because remember you know what he did. Corey holiday ran the wrong route. And you're something to be. Sanford taking a team to the championship. I mean he's only three quarterbacks in history the franchise that has done that and of course it only took him to to afc championship. Games i mean you know i mean if if the bottom line is always super bowl then gonna be a lot of players out there that fans wind up resenting for life but those two extra pretty darn good. They just weren't good enough. They'd get them over to up all right. Let's go to the two thousands matt. My gosh there were championships. In the two thousands there are two of them right. Gritty good decade. How do you. How do you combat though the early days of tom brady. Tom brady came along in two thousand one. And you a lot of people say that. If it wasn't for tom brady and the patriots there would have been many more lombardi's for the pittsburgh steelers that could be if some butts candy and nuts. It could be. But who do we add to the ninety. Two thousand eighteen to make that even more potent squat. Go well to me coach. I would say me green because brady does not like pressure of the metal or addy's fate. He don't like congestion in the pocket. A main joe would definitely have collapsed pocket and and really made him uncomfortable. And i don't think you the same the same brady if you'd had a grain in those those states well i can. I was not going there shannon. But i like that a lot because that is. That's amazing pressure. Yeah i would. Definitely i would definitely not hesitate to put him on that team from two thousand and two thousand nine tony. Well i mean. I think those teams had a decent sevens in that era. I certainly had you afford team had troy. They were they were pretty good safety. One thing that always killed them against brady was quarterback. And so i mean take your pick. Melania rob watson I think what's bigger difference maker ethic. He capable of taking over game by himself. We saw that many times in the nineties. I think he put rod woodson on either one. Oh well maybe more special teams but oh four definitely when he torched them in heinz field. Tom brady. I think he could have been a different for them. So you're going to rod woodson. I'm going what's in i. I love rod woodson. And i was going to. I a toss up between rod woodson blunt for me so i'm going to go on a completely different direction and i don't even. I might even need help here. Because i'm not even sure who were going to add to the offensive line. But we've got to add something to the offensive line here especially when you get to the latter part of that decade. That team needed help on the line. So i am going to I'm going to go ahead. And you had to castro there. Do we add another guard. If i add another guard. It's going to be touched. But i think we need to add a tackle and i think the tackle that i'm going to add would be larry brown very good check. Always said he should have been fame. That's very true. I i really think he he would have been well. Oh my gosh yes. I just screwed up there. They were the same number sixty six. Did they say david decastro now. I meant ellen fantastic. I do apologize. gosh i cannot believe that Bob yeager says bell blunt had trouble. The depot had go rod woodson yet. You really. you can't go wrong if you at any of those guys. So i agree with shannon and tony. But i'm throw what i'm doing is i'm thrown in larry brown because i want them to be stronger at the tackle position he was a right tackle but man he could he could play left tackle. I mean that guy was. That guy was amazing. He's one of those guys that is not going to get the credit that he does because those teams were great shannon. I know you love. Neil o'donnell and everybody knows that those in raynham articles. I'm not a fan. And i'll leave it at dad but would i could. Would you please quit mention. And larry brown. I have nightmares about brown this day. Okay the other larry. Brown member seventy nine number eighty seven tight end that number seventy nine been curse snail because of that super bowl the orange look lawrence brown and where did he play. Where did he play football college. Football at in lawrence texas in lawrence kansas at the university of kansas jayhawk. There you go and so let's go ahead. Let's do one more row quit. We're gonna we're gonna do rapid-fire here in. Let's do the two thousand ten who we gonna add. Tony rolfast jack lambert. Because they they needed him when ranch ranchers got hurt at the end of the two thousand ten i think he got a bit of difference maker. I'm not arguing with that shannon. I just a call up the hall of fame donnie. Shell nice. Yeah wow he would. He would absolutely been amazing there as well. I am going to go ahead and put on the two thousand ten team. I don't want to go with another offensive. Linemen here so i'm going to. I'm actually gonna add to the defensive line and on the those two thousand ten teams. I don't wanna go with. Look i can't go with casey hampton because he played in the two thousand ten's so i can't do that clarence. Washington wants me that frank webb. I love that if you know that that's great. That's really funny. You know. I'm going to go ahead and i'm going to add. Let's go ahead and add dwight white here you go. Is that a relative shannon dwight. No he's like family. He's still no can't so all right. Hey that was a lot of fun. There's so many. I mean this is of course. It's not real but it's it's fun to think of think about a team. We think of ben rothlisberger playing on the steelers in the eighties. Think about jack. Lambert rome in the middle in two thousand eighteen two thousand seventeen when we needed them. The most you think about just been one of those guys around on the indifferent aris and when you do this though you've got to you've got to add some pounds because if jack lambert played at a certain way and he'd be small in two thousand seventeen but he would have been the same size if he lived in a different air right late in the different just just to give you that idea there. Somebody says era arrowhead homes. That'd be great but he would have been suspended for a long time. So with that being said shannon. Welcome to the hangover. We had a great time having here tonight as a blast it tony daffy it's time to get on with your life's work i well. You can't when you die into a triad it weakens it. I'm being phased out. No we're definitely. We're definitely so much stronger. Tony is not going anywhere. I love having tony here as well and tony i gotta tell you shannon i gotta tell you this too. I'm going to ask a first of all. I'm going to thank all of these. These folks in the live chat for hanging out with us. That's a big deal especially in the offseason so we love having him there we cannot do shows without them they feel us so look at these names get used to him because they are they are here and they never leave us. So if you're in the live chat or if you're listening to this right now if it's wednesday and you're listening to this recording on monday but you're just as important i just don't know your name because you're listening it listening to it not live but you're just as important as well so thank you so much and i ask you all to do three things for us. The first thing is be safe. We need ya. Be true to yourself as the second thing definitely. Don't be anybody but you. Because that's what makes us special number three always tony take it be behind curtain all right for tony and shannon white. My name is brian. Anthony davis and just when you think you've got all the answers we keep changing the questions. 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Podcast RadioViajera

18:39 min | 4 months ago

#94 Camperizando y ms

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Let's Ride: Beware the bogus reports during the Steelers 2021 offseason

Behind the Steel Curtain

36:39 min | 4 months ago

Let's Ride: Beware the bogus reports during the Steelers 2021 offseason

"Support for this podcast comes from invented together. I bet you didn't know that inventing activity by black inventors peaked in eighteen ninety nine and it has never recovered black and hispanic college graduates patented half the rate of white college graduates. That's just one of the reasons why you need to know about invent together. When our patent system gets more diverse our nation will get stronger and more successful. Find out how you can help. Diverse inventors and unleash economic opportunity at invent together dot org pittsburgh steelers fans going on this jeff editor dot com with you for another episode of. Let's ride your monday. Wednesday friday podcast. We are live on the spotify green room app. I've got to be honest. This is a little bit different than the locker room app. They've been making some changes each and every week and they wanted us because they came to nation. Excuse me and said we want your podcasters kind of promote this product. And i was more than happy to jump on board and say yes. I would love to do this. I was already thinking about going into a some type of call in format. I used to do that with blog. Talk radio way back in the day. And i was even thinking about going back. There just did a talk with my writer. Dai crew that people to listen to. Let's ride every monday. Wednesday friday and don't miss thing and then this showed up and so it's been a great opportunity. It's been a great learning spurs. They want us to try different times. I usually do tuesdays at seven thirty due to some conflicting scheduling Is the bump this back to ten. Pm eastern time so. I'm not sure what this audience will look like but nonetheless. This is the kind of the information they're looking for as they kick off this app spotify green room at. I do want to mention before we get started in the news. And the podcast. The title of the podcast itself. We are a part of behind the curtain dot com to make sure wherever you. It's your one-stop shop. It really should be a with. That's my goal. My goal is behind it. So curtain dot com. Be the one place you wanna go every single time you want something that has to do with the pittsburgh steelers and we are part of espy nation. Which part of arc's media. Also wherever you get your podcast steelers or behind. The curtain subscribe. Follow so that you do not miss a thing. Not just my monday wednesday friday. Let's ride but then also is the live mike on tuesday. That is the stag on thursday in our whole afternoon line of i'm not gonna go through all of them right now by will at some point sure that you subscribe to our channels to you. Don't miss any of that as we have some people chiming in on the spotify green map. I want to get things started off right in this is this was not necessarily my target topic to discuss on this podcast yet. I felt it was necessary. I was going to talk about something completely different. That's i move to friday show. And i see you know what i need to talk about this. I need to talk about what's going on because it's driving me absolutely insane and there might be some steeler fans out there that are not sure of what's happening. They're really guy. I don't know what you're really talking about. Let me this is a public service. Announcement for all steeler fans out there to beware the bogus off-season steelers reports. Beware they're everywhere in. There's one that's more prominent than most in. That is about a young offensive. Lineman by the name of kevin dotson. This was something that was really stirring on twitter. Probably the last forty eight hours kind of died down as of recently. But still you need to beware of these reports for a lot of reasons. So let me give you the lowdown here. I i went back and found a tweet that was sent out in. This is from. This is from instagram and steeler season as z. N. says this year's won't like this be warned interesting. Reports came out of the weekend from steelers. Beat writer bo. I won't mention the the writer's name according to team sources steelers coaches and management are extremely upset behind closed doors with second year guard. Kevin dotson reportedly he literally did nothing. There i'll read that again. According to team sources he literally did nothing or very little in the offseason to keep his physical conditioning levels up likely due to feeling like he had the starting left guard. Job locked up now. Here's another real. Shocker when trae turner was hosted on his initial free agent visit the same sources indicated that it had absolutely nothing to do with david decastro ailments but it had everything to do with the dissatisfaction surrounding datsun. To castro's injury forced the team's hand in they had no choice but to sign turner as a replacement. It appears very possible. The kevin dotson could face competition in training camp for the starting job from the likes of bj finney according to said reporter which was mentioned earlier in the post. If dodson doesn't quickly get back in the good graces of his coaches so this is where it all started that post now the reporter that was mentioned in that post actually came in and double down and said it's true. This is the the sources that i have are good sources and they're not gonna lie and so all of a sudden are slack channel on behind the curtain dot com is saying what is all this stuff going on so i started to just. Hey we're gonna take away. The approach in sudden kevin dotson on his own twitter feed. He says y'all ask them y'all self. This is what he said people. I train in trained with. No i work. So he's basically saying. Hey we asked whoever you want. But i'm ready nen more people chiming jeff schwartz former offensive lineman in the. Nfl said this story is a horse. Poop will put it that way. Kc debunks that almost right away it gets better now then all of a sudden people that actually helped train dotson this offseason duke many weather. He training these photos videos of dodson literally getting after it getting after it and so his trainer himself was asked. Why would coach if we're assuming this report comes from a position coach because that's what this writer said who who came from. I'm not sure if it's clem. I'm not sure if it's morgan. No one knows but still a why would they do that until the trainer says this. Nfl buildings are home to some of the most toxic in ego driven. People that are in the people there are in ninety nine percent of the aforementioned are not players that being said kevin dotson is one of the hardest workers that had the chance to work with and he keeps a chip on his shoulder handling business. Other beat writers for the pittsburgh steelers have come out and said we saw this kid live and in person in mandatory minicamp. He did not look out of shape. He looked like he was ready to go that he was ready to for for a second year. I just wanted to do a show in. I didn't wanna just keep on harping on this topic. But i felt it was appropriate to talk about my goodness. These are the reports that steeler fans to take with a grain of salt. Any take time to take some time to pause and realize that to be completely honest. This could be one person's opinion in at one person might not be the person that's making the decisions on who plays in. Houston who does these. The same type of reports in it did come from kind of the same arena. We'll put it that way that said the t. J. watt at the end of last season stormed out of his accident of you didn't just left. He didn't do interview told. The team may only my stuff. I don't even want to deal with anybody now. Mike tomlin came out and said that wasn't true. Obviously these if you met with everybody and again this could just be hearsay. Think about how rumors started general. Let let's go back to that. Tj water example. Okay t. j. watt. let's say he. He's obviously frustrated. Any team finishes twelve and four. They're struggling down the stretch. They make the playoffs. He doesn't play in week. Seventeen they host the cleveland browns they trip and fall flat on their face. Illusion embarrassing fashion at home. That's a tough pill to swallow into. Maybe he says hey coach. Look i've got some. I need to get out of here. Man i got some vacation plans now. can i do. My interview is virtual. Can i do my interview i can. We do it earlier than anyone else. And i guarantee you. The steelers would have been accommodating to their best defensive player arguably you could some people might say make of hispanics but still. That's neither here nor there all would take is one staff member one staff member to say. Wait a second. Tj watches left. Did he have his exit interview. Goes and tell someone in next thing you know. It's the story in next thing. You know the story so again. These reports are just that they are nothing but reports in let me also say this is not a situation where someone like nause harris. The teams prize draft tick is coming into camp fat not shape. They're not even saying that. This is an offensive lineman. Okay this is an offensive lineman that is reportedly not in good shape. All right well first and foremost this player even if this is true. Let's just go on the assumption that these reports are one hundred percent factual then kevin dots and we'll have an entire month to get his body right and an nfl player. It wouldn't take them that much time to get their bodies reacclimated and ready to go. It just wouldn't did where people talking bad Think back to the early. Two thousands defenses with people saying this. Casey hampton was failing conditioning tests in latrobe. When he was showing up so out of shape the dill cower would send him send him out of practice to go workout. Was anyone saying no. And guess why. Because casey hamza's job was to be big. His job was to take up spaces. Job was to do just that. Guess what kevin doubts his job is you gotta be begs every strong. Gonna move bodies. He's gotta be mobile. That's true in gonna needs conditioning for that. But i just feel like these stories. These are exactly what's wrong with today's nfl landscape. In what i'm saying that is everything has to become a huge breaking news story. I don't like to run my site like that. That's why we did it right this story. I didn't wanna give it the credence of having evening. Grace the pages of behind the steel curtain dot com. I just didn't want to do that. And so i'm glad i took the wait and see approach. It seems like this has been debunked. Reporters are still saying is true but nonetheless. I don't this is this is totally pointless. And i said this store staff and i'll say it here on this podcast. We will know if kevin dotson shows up at the end of july two training camp out of shape it will be glaringly obvious. Remember we will have a preseason. This year is twenty twenty where the preseason cancelled the only time. We're going to see them for real will be actually. When the season starts a week one last year was on monday night. Football in new york. No and there's also going to be fans at heinz field for some practices so with that said fans are going to be there. They're going to get to see the players work. We will no into the brings me to my final point before i started taking some requests here on spotify. Green ra- map is if we'll know what does this matter. What is this matter. This is literally a bogus offseason report. And i say that because i don't care if it's true or false right now i really don't. It's just bogus. There's no need to drag this young man's name through the mud because that's exactly what's happening. There's no need for it. If a coach has an issue with a player if a coach has an issue with the players conditioning level then led the coach deal with it. Let the coach with it all right if you're listening. We have several people that have tuned in live on the green room after the spotify green room. At if you wanna talk. I love to hear your thoughts on the kevin dotson story slash nonsense as i call it otherwise we can talk about anything. That's pittsburgh steelers related. I do know that. Jim put a question in discussions at jeff. What do you think of. Trading deontay johnson to green bay for jordan love. Well that sounds great on paper. Jim but the problem that i have with that maybe not the navy. Green bay is. They're not gonna trade away jordan love until they know. Aaron rodgers is going to play. So let's say. Aaron rodgers is so disgruntled that he doesn't want to play for green bay this year and they're planning on trading him if that is the case then guess what jordan love. Is there guy. So as much as as intriguing as this would be to make a trade for the steelers potential future quarterback in jordan love a straight up trade with fiancee johnson. Just not going to work. It's not gonna work. okay. Let's get our first speaker in here we go. That's rj rj. On what's rj. Yes the whole kevin johnson thing. I don't really believe that much. I can't remember if it was on one year shows last year. But there was a video of him holing a truck. He's doing work. I don't see why he would stop doing something like that. And when he couldn't go to a gym could see him. You know taking steps backwards only afford pickup truck. So i mean you don't go from that not doing anything so i don't really i definitely don't think that something to be worried about well. The whole crux of the report is dead to coach. They of the assumption was that he became complacent that he was just like. The left guard. Job is mine. i'm fine. I don't buy that at all of you. This is a young nfl player. Who's looking to make a name for himself. And now with david decastro being released he could very well be asked to be a leader of that group. And that's hard to believe as a second-year player but you're right. Now that was on our site he posted that video of him pulling trucks because we'll do the pandemic and everything being shutdown jimmy us so he was out there. Literally pooling ford pickup trucks or chevys. I don't count on what brand was. But still you're right you're right What else is on your mind anything. Rj that that was my main thing. I mean i've been trying to figure out this whole after weeks and get on here with the well. I appreciate you china in that problem. All right man take it easy all right. If anyone else wants to talk and just put in a speaker request i would be glad to have you on the show We're gonna take a quick break. Where at the midway point. If you're listening live. Don't go anywhere because i'm not going anywhere. 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I would be glad to have you on to talk about the black and gold. In the meantime. I did put out a question on twitter. You can follow me on twitter at j hartman h. Ertms underscore p. i t. And every tuesday i. This was a little bit later. I apologize. I put out a tweet like hey if you have questions for me let me know would be glad to answer until we did have several questions. I are my girl. Laurie from across the pond. She said hey. Not sure find this. The mail bag tweets hope bragging. Squeeze my questions in. What will the steelers offense line. The most about the castro in in your opinion is he a hall of famer hashtag rider crew. Thank you laurie. I appreciate the question This is a tough one. So what is what is the number one thing that they are. Fine what am i have is here. Okay but do the hall of famer. First let's do the hall of fame. Is dave decastro of his career ends now adding he played nine years the nfl. I'm going to say no. In the reason why i say no is based on the fact that we are looking at allen. Fantasy on the basis. All around allen fan allen fan was a much more. He was more decorated. in terms. Of the all frozen pro bowls very comparable alexanco once won a super bowl and it still took him all that time to get in david. Castro will be in the conversation. I firmly believe that but ultimately i'm right now that he doesn't play anymore. I'm going to say no. I love him any in the steelers hall of honor. I think that's what they call it. But i don't think he will actually be in the pro football hall of fame. What were they miss. The most about decastro. I'm going to say that. They're going to miss veteran leadership. I said this on monday. When i did the whole podcast about what does this mean. What does this loss of dave decastro mean for the steelers in twenty twenty one and there were a lot from the salary cap to the on field experience to the off field leadership on field. I don't think they're going to miss him. At all was awful. Last year he was also injured. We know this now. It's not a cut on him. Personally is just fact that he was injured. And so it's one of those situations where i personally think that. They're just gonna miss his leadership his ability to kinda pull everyone together to say. Hey you know this is how it's done here. We're going to do it this way. That will have to fall on someone. Like zach danner his now. The elder statesman szucs core for. They're going to have to really kind of lead the group in that way the great questions. Laurie great questions is always and again. If you are listening live on the green room app put in a speaker request. I would be glad to have you on. Let's go back to the twitter. Mailbag dan ass with more money becoming available for steal it for the steelers to us. What position do you think is next in line for an addition hashtag Hashtag datsun for captain. I liked that second ben. I could definitely see him using this. These reports motivation again have a great season so with more money available. I think that the position. I'm narrowed down to three on monday. I said outside linebacker cornerback. Then there's multiple positions on the offensive line. I'm going to say that outside. Linebacker is tops for me. I think there's more talent available still. You're talking about. Justin houston melvin. Ingram nets would be a close second. Would be cornerback. There's still some towns corners out there. I think the steelers are going to make a move. It's just a matter of what move. Are they going to make and is going to be now or is it going to be later. We'll see we'll find out next question on twitter from bryant hanes longtime listeners says i i read a comment from someone that if if the steelers signed justin houston they the steelers would start. Houston over alex highsmith. I completely disagree. But what are your arguments for. Four and against hashtag rider diaper. Thank you very much bryan. So with this question. I would love for them to get justin. Houston if they get justin. Houston i do not believe that he should start over alex highsmith. I think that alex highsmith is. He's younger. Justin houston is older. He's definitely aging. he's getting up there. He's still productive but he could be very productive. He's not considered every down. Pass rusher now. This is where things get dicey he meaning justin houston could very well be a type of player. That says i don't wanna be a number three pass rusher. I still wanna be atop one of the top two on the team. In which case the steelers would say thanks but no thanks unless what the comment they said. What the comment says was true in. That is that they would start him over outside. Smith i just don't see that happening if they do get houston. I think the most important thing to know about this whole situation whether it's houston. Whether it's someone else. Melvin ingram is that the number three pass rusher for the steelers. I believe dave scofield said and if it wasn't him. I'm not sure where i saw this number. But it's sticking out of my head the steelers number three pass rusher. Plays roughly forty percent of the defensive snaps. That's a lot. That's playing a lot so have justin houston says I don't really want your deal pittsburgh. Because i wanna play more. Have you david playing a lot based on the fact that the steelers would need to give. Tj water break would need to give alex highsmith break very very important things. Good question brian. Thank you very much eric. S q says out of the three following steelers kickers. Who would you pick in. Why he says skippy swedish him or the wizard of ause skippy read. Jemma jeff read That he was clutch. People forget how clutch jeffrey was. And it's funny because skippy and the wizard vase kind of have very parallel careers. Boswell was a midseason he. He was the guy that came in when the The failed experiment at the kicker from jacksonville is i've literally burnt his name out of my memory. I can't remember the guy's name But he was of the failed experiment after he bought several kicks. He was the kicker the came in similarly. The the jeffrey experiments started the same I wanna say it might have been pearson. The kicker came in just was missing a bunch of kicks in a cut in. And they bring it. If a tryout in its jeffrey wins it I think came out of north carolina. Chris boswell coming out of rice so it's similar. I will say this that when boswell is on. He's been on his entire stint with the steelers outside of one year. When he's on i'll take him. I also don't want to discredit sean sweden. Though he had a great career he had a great career. It was a shame that it ended the way that it did it. It's also crazy that it ended in canton meaning. That was the the game. It was the shoot that was the hall of fame game and they. That's when he tore his knee up with that turf. That turf was known to be horrible. And that's when sean swedish him making a tackle on a kickoff return tears up his knee in it was just it was downhill from there. We'll put it that way. So great question to eric all right. Brian haynes is are the most overrated in underrated steelers of all time. Hashtag writer died for the most overrated underrated. Steelers of all time underrated. I tend to look at someone like aaron smith. Aaron smith did so many good things so many good things that never got noticed. And so in any even when you think about the casey hands i brought up earlier in this podcast casey anson. Everyone knows big snack. They love casey hampton. Aaron smith just kind of went about his business he there was no flash there was no flair. He was a bread. Kiesel brett kiesel shows up in a pick our in a tractor bread keys with the beard. All of that. That wasn't aaron. Smith in aronson didn't want that but at the same time he was extremely underrated in my opinion overrated. Oh boy overrated. I hate to say that there are. Some caesar overrated. Here's one that i for some reason. Plex bursts out my brain but it's probably because plex burs was he left. He left in free agency. I always kind of urged me. But i always felt the plex goes is a little overrated. Some might hate that. But that's the first thing that came to mind all right. Let's get another speaker on the spotify. Green map will. what's up. Well question for you jeff. As far as we're going with the youth movement in seem like kevin dotson was one that would be a leader. Do you think the media's just trashing him to kinda lower our confidence with our new offensive of line being younger well. i don't know it up by the way there might be people that hear your questions. That's asinine. no no i think. That's spot on the steelers controlled narratives. They've always done it. They always will do it. They are going to allow certain information to get out. Narrow gonna protect certain information. That's just the way they've always done business. And i don't know if it's so much that they want to kind of lowered the expectation level but they they had to know that this was getting out there and they let it out there. I'm fine with the getting out there now and think about it if it comes out at the end of june if this motivates dodgson the steeler fans might be in for a treat this year with with kevin dotson playing angry for the chip on his shoulder. Like i'm not here to prove that. I'm going to be dominant and i'm gonna just be physical in everything that you all said that i wasn't out of shape not properly prepared. I'm gonna that unsung so we'll i understand your question but it does make you. It does make you wonder. Because like i said the steelers do. They control the narrative that comes out of their facility. Do you agree. I would say that as well also Our offensive line is young but looking at contracts besides dotson and green looks like szucs is in the final year of his contract banners only got a two year deal turner. One any a one. Are you concerned that were young and then potentially before going to outplay. Their deals and we may or may not be able to afford him and kind of have to start with scratch. Because we didn't pick up seven jenkins or anyone in the draft yet. You know you bring up a really good point based on the fact that they are. I feel like chook some more for a. He's a guy that if he plays well they're going to sign him. I think they would make a deal. Zach banners there for two years Trae turner i. He's on approved. Deal not only to the steelers for himself to the nfl if it all depends on the salary cap situation if the balloons up as much as they expected to be which could be over two hundred million dollars. What would the steelers do. Tj watts money. I mean there's a lot of moving pieces here. The steelers will not let the covered go bear on the offensive line. So maybe they let dj finney go if kendrick green is the guy They do have dan moore junior waiting in the wings hopefully as as tackle but ultimately i think that the offensive line young and they're going to have to make some decisions at some very important positions mainly tackle Because you're looking at just a yeah. Feel guards are easily accessible in the draft so they have to draft a guard they could probably find on the could start right away but it's definitely an issue definitely an issue thank you for chiming in while i appreciate it. Let's get to our next speaker. Request west is here. What's up wes. How you doing buddy. I'm how are you great. So i got a couple of things. I'm all over the place. You know me So first of all kevin dodson thing. I thought about that. And i can't help but think now i don't even wrong. I believe dodson. It's not true. But i feel like maybe a little bit of underlying truth and i think it. I really think that it could be as simple if somebody coming out. After frustrating day with dodson insane something to a reporter and then this reporter just rolling with it and it it ballooning into something that it never was and i really think that it could have been that simple. Like and then dodgson hears it and it's like wait a minute. Wait a minute. This never happened So i really think like. I don't i don't i'm not buying into to the to the article that was written at all but i i have a feeling that it probably came from something very small the set after a frustrating day or something and it just ballooned into something they got back the dotson and but like you said. I think it's going to be motivational assure The other thing i wanted to bring up is article you wrote about Our kayce smith and bundu pre first of all great article. Thank you second of all. I'm going to answer the question for myself here. I don't think anybody will ever forget. But debris but i think at least the more logical thinking steeler fans what i've heard and seen are not even comparing out smith to Our type smith's to two but debris they're expecting him to be better but they're expecting him to be outsized That's i know. That's where i'm at like i. I've gone on record to say that. I think that he could achieve ten saxes here. That has nothing to do with what bud debris it here it has to do with the trajectory. I really think that how type smith is capable of in his career. I just i. I see like i was kind of iffy when we dropped them about. You know and then the more. I watch gaped more or less than you guys shows. I i bought into this stint in. We saw him play last year and if he continues to do what you did last year you know it. It's gonna be special year for outside the last thing i want to bring up. I keep hearing all this media talked about how the steelers have potentially the worst offensive line in ary. So you know me. I'm all about bold predictions of bold prediction. Today is that. Three of our offense of lineman make the pro for two thousand twenty one. Wow that's a pretty bold prediction. I wanna talk about the article that i wrote with regarding hyphen. Depre- i don't think it. Let's be honest. When i'm writing an article i have to think of the headline it's gonna make you wanna click. That's part of the job. I sculpted the article around. Tj waas comments from mandatory many can't and he talked about how strong highsmith was as a pass rusher. I don't think anyone is comparing the two from a stylistic perspective but i do look at okay is high smith further along on the career. Trajectories in bud. Depre- was entering year. Two high smith is by foreign away. Better at better technician as a pass rusher than depre- was in your to do pre might have been more athletic. I think yes you would give him the edge athleticism and speed. But alex highsmith's pass rushing moves are by far away better than do pres. So there's always going to be. That comparison is replacing. But at the same time. I agree with you hundred percent. That highsmith is going to build his own legacy. Whatever that is a good or bad. I think the steelers will be You know it added. They're going to be just fine with alex. Highsmith at the helm my concern is if there's any without seismic it's him as a run blocker a run stopper. I should say Budget pre really improved in that area of his game later in his time in pittsburgh and so we'll see if that happens but west. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it as always. And let's get your jim says if the o line is horrible in pass blocking does den take his bongo home or retire or does he stick around. Stick it out all season if he can't scramble. When do you think the coaches put in the quarterback of the future. Well the offensive line could be horrible. I don't think they're going to be horrible in run blocking by the way they are going to be bad. I think it's going to be in pass blocking until maybe we see a different offense in regards to approach. Maybe we see more of a run heavy offense but could be the last year for benefits really really bad. I could see it being the last year. I could see him saying. I don't need this in my life. I just don't anymore it's not. It's not a necessity for me at this stage in my life but good good question. I appreciate it all right folks. That wraps it up for me. I think all the people that join me during this live. Let's ride podcast here on tuesday night on these spotify green. Remember you download that app free for users. You can get the beta version on android. You can do everything talk with the except for you. Can't do the discussion stuff. Like jim was asking questions that way tonight. 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Tales From 2 AM, Part 2: Building the All-Personality Steelers team

Behind the Steel Curtain

24:11 min | 3 months ago

Tales From 2 AM, Part 2: Building the All-Personality Steelers team

"Support for this episode comes from t. Mobile we're a lot more than just baseball fans we're baseball fanatics and thanks to t mobile. We can stay connected to the game. We love with five gene more places. T. mobile is your ticket to the game so whether your home or away. You're never far from your favorite team with america's largest and fastest five gene network. Don't get caught looking switch to t mobile the leader and five g. today fastest according to open civil awards based on average speeds in usa five g. experience report able two thousand twenty one to five g. device coverage and access details at t. Mobile dot com. Welcome back to sales from two. Am my name is brian. Anthony davis the podcast producer. Had a week off in the woods man since saturday. I've been taken some naps. I am absolutely tired. So but i'm glad to be back. I missed you guys. I really missed hashtag bad company. I really missed. Bts's family of podcast in everybody in the live chat. That hangs out on all the shows. And i even mistake. Scofield and jeff hartmann. I missed those guys so as well as everybody else on the network. It's great to be back here. gosh talking about we're talking about bigfoot. We're talking about lao richie songs. But we're talking about the most personality in pittsburgh steelers lower than that's what we are going to be doing Looks like we've had some people down for the count not feeling that great this week in hashtag bad company. Hope you're feeling better. And if i missed anything in the live chat. I do apologize. You know me multitask. This is bad. We'll tell you. I do not multi task well. So i'm trying so if you need to. If you need to let me know. Put it on there again. George test mask are the scouts. Coed now yes a new yes. They are but they're separate troops completely. My daughter was there. It's cow camp as well but she was in her own troop. She's not in our troop now. They're co ed classes. They're they're coed. They they mixed through but we keep a very good eye on them and they are not at the same campsite their tents or not anywhere near each other. And that's something that we make sure for for many reasons but the girls troops. I will tell you this. They are organized. They are fantastic. They take it to the boys. They really do fantastic groups really glad to have them there. They get a great experience as well. It's a good feeling to have all kinds of scouts. No matter the gender. They're working together but at night there in separate sites and that's good too so anyway i i gotta tell you this. I talked a lot of steelers. I met some. I met some be. Tse fans there that that knew about bt se. Had no clue that i was on. It had no clue. They didn't realize that they go to the website. And like mogo to the podcasts. So it was so much fun. It was one of the best weeks of my life again but this year no issues. What's so ever migra up. They they were really pumped. They had a lot of fun and no one thought. It was really weird. I think being off for covert being missing it last year. They missed being a camp in so they were back in. They were on their best behavior. I i think it was great. I love this now. I'm going to say jerry cherry says come on feel the noise girls. Rock the boys. Now if you're going to stay quiet riot you can but jerry jerry would probably correct me. 'cause that's originally a song by slade believe nineteen seventy-three one of the greatest rock bands in england's history. If you don't know slate you know the song. Run run away from nineteen eighty-four. It is a great song but slade does really good rock band. But we probably would've know it if it wasn't for quiet riot. So can all feel the. Na is there you go check out some slade man. We're throwing out bigfoot lionel ritchie. Now we've got slade and quiet riot. We've the scouting movement. We've got so much to talk about. It's great we had to scout camp. We had two on thursday for spirit week. it was sports jersey day. What's yours do you think i wore. I'm gonna let she guess. I will let you guess which jersey i war yes. It was a steelers jersey. But which one do you think. I wore so throw it in there i wore. I also wore. I wore this. Make your own maryland helmet. Because i represent the state of maryland in the back our numbers on the back have the maryland flag in it. I did not wear the. Bj fit he pants garrett. He's that would that goes against so many things that would be not scout appropriate to where those pants. I would just say that it's not appropriate for anywhere from me to wear those pants. I gotta bring up just me. I love just me. I enjoy your calm voice in stories on sunday morning. Not you're singing as much. Ll bad yet. I did sing in front of the whole scout camp at the final lot on the final night My wife was there just misses battles like. Oh he's singing. I now my daughter's like In front of the whole of the three hundred people being another guy where singing. i guess. I'm just a show off. I guess that's okay wasn't a scout as a kid and i had a chance to go there and as a leader. It's it's fun so anybody have guests of what number i wore them. Nobody i'm gonna tell you we. We are did not wear forty-three. Npr mbr gases. Forty three dave shipley says eighty six. Nope did not wear eighty six. Either fifty did not wear fifty. He's going to the hall of fame. My friends not seven it. It's not because he's going to the hall of fame that i wore the jersey thirty two note. I wore the jersey because not double zero. I wore this certain jersey because we are troop sixty six in maryland. And so i wore allen fanta so is for two reasons. Were troops sixty six. That's cool and also big. Al's going into the hall of fame allen. Panic has gone the hall of fame in just another week. Hell was that. So i got to wear my number sixty six. I was going to wear mario lemieux but because it was white it would have been nice and i. There's a lot of capitols fans around me. But that's a heavy heavy jersey and i didn't wanna be wearing that all all day long so i did not wear sixty six for mario i wanted to pay tribute to mr janika. So there we are. Let's talk about more personalities. We talked about big al bad. How many jerseys do you have. I don't even know. I lost count. I'm i'm not sure. I i quit by now. I have not bought one in a long long time. No like four months. But i'm done for a while. So i'm going to stay in pat a little bit. Neither losing their and he'd lose a couple of lb's to have my jerseys philo better but anyways let's talk about the offensive line and then we'll go to the tight end position. Who are we gonna put on the offensive line best personalities. Who would we put. I threw off. Brian brown with big al. Because they used to call alpha allen panic big out one point two. So i'm gonna throw out one as a great personality. Jerry moon mullins. Mollins had a great personality back in the day. Garrett slinger land. This is the next guy's gonna throw up their pouncey penalties. Probably one with a great personality. Let me let me bring up the big ragu. Let's do this yeah. I just didn't shave for two days. That's that's that's why tape boys. I just didn't shave. This is going away of. I need a shave. I think ramon foster is a good one snowman's right that we got a current steeler. That leads as far as offensive. Lineman go zach banner. I think probably probably the greatest personality as far as as an offensive lineman goes. I'd probably say zach. I think the hall banner. Yeah that interview. We had with him last year. Tse that was brilliant. He was so good he was so fun. He told us he he would take david. Ida vegas just me has six jerseys in three. Bts's shirts that's awesome you have more. Btf shirts than i have ese shirts. How about that. Dave shipley. I like this one ray. Mansfield zach banner ramon foster punch touch is definitely a great personality and then you gotta throw a wolf thrown personalities. So let's do this. Let's put penalty center. Let's put zach banner at the tackle position. Let's go ahead and put ramon and touch guard and let's put wolf tackle will play. Both tackled guard at times too. So the touch. So let's make that our top five. I think i think that's a pretty good top five. That big are starting offensive line. I like it tight end. This is tough for me. Who is most personal. Who has the most personality of titans in pittsburgh steelers history it would be hard to say heath heath was a quiet guy. He's the greatest tight end. Matt stotka says we never had a tight end with notable personality. Dave shipley says benny cunningham hundred percent. Maybe benny i have a hard time with heath. Because he was just like. I said he was reserved. Mark thrown is a reserve guy. Maybe the title positions just reserve position. Eric green maybe randy grossman ready. Wrestling was kind of reserved to me era. Green maybe green is is your tight end with with the most personality their benny cunningham i maybe cunningham some hebron hebron has personality. Yeah so i tell you what. Let's make that a Let's make that of yours choice. I'm just gonna go ahead and put my vote in. Let's go ahead with era green on that. But you really can't go wrong. I think iran is up there too all right. That's the offense. Let's take a look at the defense we've got personalities on the defense. Let's look at the defensive line. Are we gonna go big snack. Casey hampton on the defensive line is going to be cam gotta be for me. I'm thinking it's a guy like me. Jail joe green joe. Greene's one of the guys up there earl homes. Excuse me ernie. Holmes arrow at his head he had personality. Elsie greenwood Nba says we. We only need one pin rodney commercials for light light beer. Yeah he had personality. Lizard name the Personalities on the defensive line kiesel garrett slinger. Lynn says brett keys. Oh yeah bread will definitely had amazing personality. So let's look at that. Let's throw in. We gotta say we definitely got see say. Lc we've definitely saved me. Joe we're going to have to. Let's put keys in there too like that. L. c. n. camp. That's four. We'll get we'll get with a four three there there you go. I like that. I like the beard being in there. All right linebacker. This could go on forever. We're getting a lot of. Joey porter's joey porter had personality in if you're talking about the number one personality as far as linebackers. I think joey joey porter is at he had he was personality. Personify joey's there. James harrison had a different personality. Somebody few people thrown up james harrison. I think that's James harrison's for me. He had a subdued menacing personality. It was it was a big but it was menacing lambert. Yeah definitely lambert. Definitely joey porter. Let's get up there we go. George teston kevin greene. Kevin greene was all personality as well. Let's go with those guys. We we can put james harrison in there. We definitely could be npr. Npr's says de bush seems to be getting a little birds nadi going on late. yes he does bentley. seen who he is that's awesome. Let's look at the defensive. Backfield will start with coroners. Who had corner. Are you gonna put with the biggest personality. Rod woodson had a great personality definitely did shea. Townsend was kind of subdued. But if i'm looking at one that i think of with amazing personality at the corner positioned it's gotta be faced me ike. It's gotta be. I taylor got some votes for mel blunt there. We hey we just got a late. We just got a late for linebacker. And it's moats. Arthur moats were seeing a lot of personality of him. In the media. Moats had a great personality. Linebacker we gotta think about moats to got some votes for Joe haden and willie gay male blunt personality. I like ike in woodson. I like that one a really antoine. Valentino blake yep steeler nation for to i remember remember antwan so those are the two will go with man. We'll go with three that's cool. Let's let's throw in a. Let's go with blunt woodson. That's pretty good. Alright defensive backfield this one's there's there's a number one safety that you cannot deny brian clark. We saw out there clark as far as personality but a lot of people were saying palolo palmolive had a very subdued personality. When i think of a guy at safety besides ryan clark. I'm thinking ethan. Flowers that guy that guy would grab the mic. And he was another joey porter he would spout off. You'd say a lot of stuff that you're like. Oh why did you say that. But but lee lee flowers man seeing the paper champions Yeah i've i've gotta say that paula mollahs play was personality. Says sean manahan. I get it. But he spoke on the field not to the media as n. Vr npr are says. Donnie shell either personality but to me. He was a lot like paula. Malla so for me. I'm thinking guys like clarke clarke. Definitely i think flowers got to be in there throwing on the list. Good thing about this list. It's just bad companies lists. It's not like it's gonna make any national publication if it does a- give you guys all all the credit in the world however that all right. Let's wrap this up with kickers. And punters what kicker kickers even have personalities. I don't know if they do. Punters i dunno ponders. There's one guy it's an easy one for punter. The guy was a jokester. The guy was josh miller. Do remember delton hall belton delton hall. He wanted to fight mike tyson after his rookie year. One of the one of the flight. Mike tyson josh miller. He had extensive pen pez collection. He's a guy. Go with jeff read hundred percent. I agree with that. Somebody put in dave scofield. As as the kicker days go is great personality guard donkey. That's a good vote for me. I think it's jeff for jeff. Read yet he is out there the king presley who check that out check. We're giving a vote for the king. I like it. Read was definitely a jokester. Josh miller i think those are the guys that to. Let's do one more. Let's do one more coach. It's not chuck knoll techno out of personality. It's gotta be cower. I would probably say is as your personal must personable coach of them all up. I've got some hashtags and i saw the word beehives. I gotta bring up zac. Hey fan glad. I could catch a show live for the first time in a while bone to pick though as bad companies really good but doesn't hold a candle to bads beehive. Let's get a pull out there. Oh wow the wants to change our name the bads beehive. I love it. We haven't had. I haven't thought of sapphire for week. Man gosh what am i gonna do backward wants to kick returner wiki. Dukic retarder my brain's not thinking about a kick returner though somebody throw out a kick returner with great personality. I know they're out there. Let us hey right there you go. Let's throw in ray ray in and be done with that. Hey we had a lot of fun. Today we're gearing up. It's gonna be a big week next thing you know. We're gonna have a football game to talk about how about that. There's going to be a football game really soon to talk about when we have the hall of fame game. It's around the corner. Steelers cowboys. We're gonna have hall of fame inductions pretty soon. We have all that it's football season my friends. It's the preseason and that's what it is and hashtag bad company. We're going to be there together and for my man lumberjack. Hashtag bads beehive. I think we're gonna have to keep hashtag bad company. But august fifth babies what steelers nation four. One two says eleven more days. I'm loving it. But that i'm loving it and you know what i gotta say this. I've known apologized now. To just me. I will not sing for another seven days. Might have to sing next week in two. Am and i know. She's three hours behind. So it's a twenty four here in me. Sing songs sinclair right. That's not a good thing i feel. Yes so i'll try to lay off of that. All right with that being said do three things for me be safe. Be true to yourself and always be behind the steel curtain. I love you all. Thank you so much for celebrating the preseason for supporting bt se in love in the black and gold. Just like i do. We will see you next week. Love you hashtag. Bt sc bad company support for this episode comes from t. mobile. We're a lot more than just baseball. Fans we're baseball fanatics and thanks to t mobile. We can stay connected to the game. We love with five gene. more places. t. Mobile is your ticket to the game. So whether your home or away. You're never far from your favorite team with america's largest and fastest five gene network. 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Jersey Jerry vs Jeff Nadu RNR 16? - Barstool Rundown - September 21st, 2021

Barstool Rundown

23:51 min | Last month

Jersey Jerry vs Jeff Nadu RNR 16? - Barstool Rundown - September 21st, 2021

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Yeah vaccines that's it. Yes get shots monday night. Football packers win thirty five. Seventeen and cover aaron jones four touch four times more touchdowns only sixty seven yards can get thirty or sixty eight and a half rushing but Jerry how the cowboys look or excuse me the packers packers are back. I mean it's a fact. I rogers going to the super bowl this year. I predicted before the season you've seen. Why last night doesn't he of seem a little bit this Interested air rogers. I mean he had that nice pass to devante atoms. Keeping but yeah. Yeah that nice. On the scene robert tanya in a little bit of a blown coverage but does he seem like he's kind of checked out. I don't think so. I think now he wants them more than ever to me Everybody has their own opinion. But i think roger's is back and seen it last night but he's the is that even more of an indictment on the lines that he can seem disinterested and stole this rate them. Get line sucked. I mean i thought that jared goff had a nice first half but they sucked after that Anthony lynn just grabbing his own balls and cutting them off eight minutes left in the game. They're down by two scores and they're running the huddle offense. Just no no no urgency. Yeah it makes sense. What was the final game. Thirty show show. Marty had him at twenty or twenty. He's a crazy. Get greedy greedy. Should've just take him what was given to him Interrupts texted dave after the game Shut up big cat. I mean aaron rodgers. The fact that him and dave able to text just after the game like is fascinating to me and just burying cat even more to twenty five. Am to yeah get some sleep. You know what i mean. I guess he has a day off but he's probably just buzzing from the win. Maybe can't sleep after a big win. Lake that the fact that are in the after the first game someone said that aaron rodgers look like nicholas cage playing aaron rodgers and a movie about brady. I'm still just getting those vibes from aaron rodgers. that he's like a little bit beleaguered and then he's kind of going through it You would think somebody with that much amount of money. Wouldn't have that like sean connery. The rock grub as lund dude. I bet it cilivian money just running around being the center of every all the news. I keep probably depressed about not helping his hair follicles. it might be. It might be all shit about months. Yeah no get knocked up. She's got nine up by john mullane and she was trying to break up Casey mush graves marriage. She's just in the mix so much you know when the experts in the stomach probably sick to his stomach problem the eli and peyton broadcasts Grunk says he doesn't watch any film and peyton. Manning thinks the pats bugged is locker which of course they fucking bugged as the patriots. so yes. They're not keating they're not trying hundred percent. Yeah they're definitely in the steelers for all those years. Yeah what are your thoughts on. Spy gate flaky. You know. I think they should have some super bowl rings taken away from that. I really do all of them. It should be disbanded. As a franchise hundred percent all their super bowl rings. all the wind should be vacated some bullshit and never be allowed to coach again now never never how many how many ships were the steelers have had if not for the patriots at least five at least five more yeah hundred percent hundred percent so far way so like three more five and like the big band era or like seven in the five the big five and the big band era so he would have been the goat or at least in the combo for goat and they were genus. That defense. I mean we got rob joey porter. Come on casey hampton. Who's your favorite seaworld. We'll talk harrison harrison though he went to the patriots respect for him traitor. Yeah no respect. He's not well into the bengals to he was news trader and all around he trading. What about larry foote linebacker. Yeah he was. He was a good player. Little overrated footed cool name though but definitely cool name. That didn't perform like like a foot should for full. Yeah i got to be steady. Who's that linebackers. Weighed like three levant. Kurds bonker steeler. The von kirkland. Three hundred pound linebacker ninety three. He's beast. We'll see that this day and age. Now you won't steelers do have punter. That's about two seventy presley arvin your mic. They got a big problem with come fixed. Mike mike right. You let him do it. A little bit scruffy pitcher scruffy catching some flavor. Flav chain catching some grade school dude. I feel like that bothered to. I mean i didn't mean anything by. Maybe because i don't like the way my grade school smelled. Oh my grade school smell. my grade. School wasn't a good school. Smell aac feet like a good for like larry. Foote no not. Like larry foot maybe after a game. Just a bad smell yeah. That's tough. i didn't mean anything by it. I was just saying you know what i mean. It was just a nostalgic smell. I was it was the heat of the moment just grade school. If there was anything that it was the i wasn't that is the first thing that comes back. That triggers memories. Yeah that's right that's true. Some smell certain ways the cowboys their fans had a nice little royal rumble. Outside the chargers new stadium on sunday which resulted in a bunch of fans getting thrown into a lake. We'll see a lot of ads crack hanging in and out. You know just cowboys. Fans being cowboys fan brawling in front of like reflecting pool is that where martin luther king gave his. Are they brawling by right there that it was like a real shallow lake. they were right on the waterfront. That's too beautiful to be wrong. They're the worst fans on the planet cowboys fans in the barrel. Either you're an asshole or you hate your father. that's why you're a cowboys fan. You grew up in depths. I agree i agree with that. Hundred percent asshole. A bunch of assholes. Damn we're about to see you fighting jerry. What's going on with that and we'll get to that. We got a little our tease super creepy bar. Then sold a two-way mir so they can watch people. Go to the bathroom jerry. What would you do if you're taking a piss you look. There's a two way mirror. You know people are peeping in on your first thing i would try to do. Is sue yang. Getting the last okay. I'm trying to collect some money for that. You know what i yeah. So being a member of a union still do you still have access to their representations correctly. Do free of charge because i pay union dues. Okay how do they break your back with those news. Not so bad Seventeen seventy two week. Jesus christ that's a lot you think. One thousand seven hundred seventy dollars and so. That's not crazy. Seventeen dollars two cents. That's not crazy nice. And what does it cover Covers a lot covers protects. You god forbid anything happens. You know with lawyers and stuff like that right right. There's like certain outings and you go to the outings and beef and beers like that. You know what. I'm more if somebody's watching. You take a piss at a bar you get. The union lawyer involves representation. Somebody fills you in the shower. Yeah i didn't even know that showers here. Shoppers shower back there. And they'll get you to in jerry. You should organize us. I i wanted to talk about that. I know dave has had. I'm not gonna say anything crazy. Dave has had his problem with unions. What if what if you got a boss friendly union or something like that. What if you're the union head. What if you are the president of the us jurors. Yeah like go head to head. You represent us against dave. You're just a pit bull in there like that. Let's start off with good intentions. Come absolutely corrupt. Yeah yeah it's great dude. Being the guy that no one can say shit brick to their windows. Exactly exactly you know what. 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Fuck you i'm out yup. Yes sure you ever quit a job before. I have never quit a job. Never fun fact about jersey jerry. I have never quit a job. And i've been on three interviews. And i've never been not offered a job for three. I'm from pretty successful at the interviews. So i don't think i've ever quit a job but i've been fired by. I think more jobs. I've been hired by not even possible. Yeah i've been fired from like barstool at one point. And i don't think i was rehired back just reintegrated myself so i was like one for you get fired. It's a long story back in the day. Yeah go two thousand twelve two thousand thirteen barstool. Then i'm the scenes. Oh is behind the scenes. Guess in front of scenes at some point but so that people can find if they think. I'm not sure if it was ever public. Well basically had to do. I was writing for other websites. Time moonlighting smitty pretty much pretty much a little a little bit of bro. Bible coed dot com row bible. Dave was happy about it and Some some of the stuff that went down. You know everything's good everything's gravy. Thank you for my man smitty. No company would have a guy like smitty with ahead so fucking block life. Who's done such less but has a pretty good gig. Put them in the rotherham. Put them in the wrongful you to hear the story. I mean deafness. Got rid of things for a reason i got. I got fired from a job at a roast beef cutting place because i went on shade forty five on the radio and i was like i'm going on the radio. Don't i'm going to be back. But they're offering me a chance to go and like be on the radio like i'm going to go in the radio and they're like you didn't show up your fire all right fire me. It is what it is like. I wanted to do this. And you you just gotta you gotta make your stance on time was like going into the radio station on. Like static selected show wrapping on camera. You write that. Yeah yeah yeah crazy right. Yeah yeah by my album. What's that took typing around on any. Yeah man state. How do you like your steak. Medium medium rare medium really. Okay i went. To texas roadhouse and i asked for one medium rare. They gave it to me bloody rare. I should've asked for medium because when you go to these chain restaurants but a steakhouse you can go. Medium rare last topic ben. Simmons confirmed dick. You will not report for the training camp next week and says the never again to play. For the seventy sixers franchise guy run. I mean this is obvious. no morals. no he's a piece of shit he's a piece of shit for this He got signed to maximum extension. And the only thing that you're saying they want him to shoot. They wanted him to shoot and so he said. I'm never going to play for you anymore. Like he's mad at doc rivers and joel embiid for the way that what i don't i don't even understand what he's mad about. He's just being petulant. He'd being a child. It's sad honestly because i've backed him up. I i like put my neck on the line in uncomfortable situations not unlikely carson wentz well. That's that's what frustrates me. Now is people are coming at the city of philadelphia and it's personal because they say we treated ben simmons like shit. Which is patently false. We treated him marquel foltz the best way we possibly lead them. We baby them. We gave them everything that they needed. Nurtured them from burp then wanted to see them grow up and become successful but instead at least one of the two is an asshole the other one whatever have fun in orlando with your fake injury wherever the fuck you're doing now but ben simmons fuck you run set a best on first time longtime or so. Sports is philly scumbag podcasts. That if he wants to hold out they should deliver his contract. Home in pennies gets back up the brinks truck and dumped depends on his driveway. Like okay count the pennies. Take your shot that way. A million dollars in the slot exactly like the fact that he could not come to work and still get paid. What would the union say about that. That doesn't happen. It doesn't happen if you know. Call no show. You're out of the get fired from your job. Another guy in there exactly this next man up to probably melt down and get some good copper chain. This chain is some flavor plays a welder made for me. I worked as he. Jerry chain one of one really did. He's craft the shape of jersey on his own. He did a pretty good jersey. Is it is yeah. He's got the little lumpy on the bottom. It's good it's good to weld very talented So after show Jersey jerry army coming at jeff. Do we have a possible rough rowdy fight just ridiculous we do. Yes we do december. it's official. It's not official yet. You know this this guy is Wants a ton of money. He's not even worth it. We're gonna see what happens but Like i told dave and big cat who is my agent. I am offering him guaranteed money if he beats me in the fight. And are you requiring him to offer that back to you now. No not at all. No so he gets paid no matter what. If you lose you get nothing. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. I told dave i'd sign the papers. Today works in the day for our show today to write of fireworks yet. Boy do coming at me saying you know after me hitting the bag. I was gassed. Which i wasn't even close to gas like i put on my twitter. That was only at twenty two percent. You know what. I mean But we'll see what happens. I'm ready to sign this guy. Ain't gonna sign. I have a feeling no. I'll tell you what we got you. hitting the bag dog shabby. They're got four of them. Bind them to. What's the boxing background. there is no real background real professional background. But i got a bag. I have a bag speed bag i got. I got some jump rope. And i got some gloves. And that's all i really need. Nice jump rope is some of the best cardio. Exercise is it is and you look like a you look like a fighter right now with the hood up you know with the monarch if you like pulled it to pass a little bit like the angle shaq show and you look like i hope i get to rough and rowdy because i really want to portray that that mike tyson short black shorts black shoes and that's income out like that vintage tyson. That's what i really want. So you wanna hear it for the look. That could be a nice look. No robe nothing. Just that really. Just vintage types. You and your demon still time that last after topic div Rejected dinner. Invitation time you find out who was on the list what celebrities. What did he reject celebrities reject. So he say he replied back saying that they're only three people he would stop and go a reason was that larry. David had question marks next door. There was a chance. Larry was going to be at the day Sure he was like flyer. It's there. I'll make sure gotcha so basically there are only three people that dave drop anything for and go have dinner with this point. Larry david Jimmy buffett who he had had dinner with and who was the third race. Ricky drew base. That was top three south up basis surprising to me. I didn't realize that back to like that. I would say he's the top five comedian out there right now and we were saying earlier on the ac. He has a great he's had great run of h. b. o. Shows the ones that he produces idiot abroad his stand ups really life is short clip with liam niessen. Quite possibly the funniest scheduled. That's really funny. And then you had the show with stephen merchant that he He made that's just the he's got a lot of good shows he's made some funny shit so who'd be the one person alive now. One person that you will drop everything for and go to live. Oh yeah you see them on the list. And that's it for me springsteen that's it boss wants to go have a beer. I'm having a beer with the. I would say britney britney britney spears at a rescue situations pretty much okay. That'd be nice. Britney will be a good one jordan michael jordan. I mean i kind of a answer. But he's like he's the biggest celebrity to me. Tommy go larry david jeff. Probst upset one. But congratulations on your on. Your new podcast. Tommy if you shoehorn that in their drive or forty one premiers tomorrow subscribe to snuffing torches leaving nice five star torches is stealing cracking aces. Oh no i thought it was. Stealing stems was more going. Both don't wanna still crack you hear about it Rape brittany's feet ten ten yard. Britney spears feet really haven't seen him she'll take down the toilet. Are you fetishists. You've finish is her feet a little bit. Yeah really foot guy. That's pretty cool. I have a competition. Every year called feet the streets hosted by jersey jerry Girls across the country. They me pictures and videos of their feet and i put them in an ncaa tournament style bracket and you know. Put it on instagram story. Pole and we decide from there who was last year's winner. The number three seed was the winner last year. Miss victoria lynn. Oh very correct answers. Yeah i guess so. What did you have like ankle tattoo or something. He actually she actually did have an ankle. White white white nail polish pretty pussy energy which which definitely boosted her up a little bit. She is competing again in twenty twenty two. Well we're we're going to have to keep an eye out for that bracket how is it a sixty four or sixteen sixteen. I think we can now with jersey. Jerry coming borstal. I think we can do. Sixty four gets playing angles. And that's the runner. I knew she had an ankle. You could just tell anyone. That has linda as their middle names. Got an ankle tattoo.

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The Steelers Preview, Part 1: Steelers best and worst case scenarios for training camp

Behind the Steel Curtain

29:47 min | 3 months ago

The Steelers Preview, Part 1: Steelers best and worst case scenarios for training camp

"Support for this episode comes from t. Mobile we're a lot more than just baseball. Fans were baseball fanatics and thanks to t mobile. We can stay connected to the game we love with five and more places t. Mobile is your ticket to the game so whether your home or away. You're never far from your favorite team with america's largest and fastest five gene network. Don't get caught looking switch to t mobile. The leader and five g. today fastest according to open awards based on average speeds in usa five experience report able two thousand twenty one five device coverage and access details at t. Mobile dot com. Pittsburgh steelers fans. That's going on. This is jeff hartmann senior editor behind the curtain dot com seeing your editor at behind the curtain dot com your one-stop shop robbings pittsburgh steelers for once we have the trio back yes. It's not just a dynamic duo. Dave scofield's back from his three and a half weeks sabbatical. Feels like dave. What's going on. I'm not too much as soon as you introduce or other person. I have a little bit more to sell them. I okay brian. Anthony davis podcast producer. Please introduce yourself to the audience. On weather i get involved in. This is is so great to have the three of us back in as the podcast producer. I proclaim that the three of us will be together forever. Except next week when i take the week. Oh my gosh. This is the worst show on the platform. Like literally erno why anyone listens because the steelers previews never all three of us. It's been like to the last like five weeks. Hey it's on eason. I want to get into something really deep without brian being introduced. I thought that would be rude. I need to play something real quick. And it's called you're right you're wrong okay and this is going off of last week's show which you guys like to talk about various things. Let's start with one jefferson hartman. Okay where you were right in where you were wrong okay. Here's where you were right it. You are right unless it's your team. The team that just won the super bowl. You're supposed to hate the next year. You're supposed to hate them and root against them. You were right okay where you were wrong with saying that i have been on the show for forever. I've missed two episodes in all of two thousand and twenty one and that was the first week of june and the first week of july which was last week so that were right. And that's where you were inc. That's two more than me. But i digress. It probably is to more than one. Grind anthony davis. Here's where you were right. Did you were wrong. I'm could. I could've done where you were right as we're jeff was wrong. And that is. I'm going to settle your dispute from last week about one benjamin todd rothlisberger playing time in the preseason the last the last time. Btr played in more than one. Preseason game was two thousand fifteen. Your face hartman. Sixteen the only plan. We can threes seventeen e only will play week. Three eighteen only played week. Three nineteen only played week three and of course there was no preseason so just because you guys were saying we need the oracle. He would know that. So the answer and brian. I was wrong good job. I'm where you were wrong. It was not everything else. it was not a black and gold g. string the scope rosen. Go sco alfresco no. It wasn't this go browse spread for us to go bro. Speedo was even banana. Hammock live chat. Who would you rather see them. Banana rich oh my gosh. Clean that up. Since i wasn't here. I wanted to do something really need. This is brian dumb for on the hangover. If you're watching live which we have total on facebook and youtube a little under seventy people live. Watch right now. where are you from. Say where you're from It'd be cool to see Where everyone is in our live shows which in case. You're listening on audio platform. You don't know how to catch those. You can eat a follow. Our facebook page Just search behind the steel curtain. You'll follow that we have. It's verified. we have. I think a well over one hundred thousand followers and then you can find it on youtube by going to beat. Tse steelers radio. Search that in youtube you'll finder subscribe. We have just over seven thousand subscribers ugly. They loved to get that eight. Mark davis is watching from the moon. That's pretty exciting for him and we thought that being an upside down world is good enough down on australia but columbus ohio. We have iowa read appea- a lorenzo very close to mile. Sorry kenneth beamer from west virginia. Where in west virginia. That's that's my old stomping grounds Some people from pittsburgh that's boring kurt. We don't see a lot of pittsburgh. Meadow really really. Don't that's crazy. Louisiana felicia welcome to the show as always phoenix. Ya heavenly is let us know where you're at. Maybe you might find someone in the live chat is from your actual town. That you're watching from norfolk virginia. Chiming in I know that right now. The people that are in the live chat on youtube can't see the facebook comments. We can see those but they can't So if you see norfolk in their. Where's this person from. They might be on the facebook site to keep that in. The background laurel maryland from james. There you go up in western maryland and that's awful as we know this time of year is all the ravens fans there like termites are coming out of the woodwork. It's like they go into hiding. And then all of a sudden near they come they come out and go lamar they lose two games in their like ira disappear the further west. You go in maryland the more black and gold at cats and it's not even just for the west the higher elevation. I guess maybe. I should say you know higher allegation getting further away from hell kaiser's ridge you really bad company. It is two dollars asked a bad company cashed copyright infringement hashtag lawsuit pending hi guys i always pumped up ride or die. My gosh it's been l. la there you go moyo. North carolina just went through there last weekend. Actually my sister-in-law's from their mohawk. Yeah well. she's kind of sister. She's my sister sister-in-law though yeah second warriors. Yeah uber drivers run right harpers ferry as very close to may and that's way too close. I spent a week a week in the the h f for my son's birthday last year. Yeah you met some people that knew me down there because you've worked so yeah yeah great rafting. They're absolutely all right. Let's get this show on the road. Let's talk about welcomed everyone. That's watching live on facebook or youtube. Dave distractive you've got hawaii and it's all kinds of good stuff absolutely. Yeah we normally have someone on facebook always from hawaii actually so actually. We want to talk about today. In the first part of the lease the best in worst case scenarios for the pittsburgh steelers heading into training camp now again. Dave said this on his thursday. Show the sad geek. I reiterated it. For friday on my. Let's ride podcast and now it's one of those situations where like we don't know when these players are actually going to report. We know the date that they could that they are legally. Or i should say allowed to buy the nfl. That is the twenty first. But we don't know if that's exactly when they're going order poor. Dave brought it up and it was very good point. Need they're gonna they're gonna to ramp up stuff again Are they just gonna have meetings. We don't know not sure why we don't know we don't know soon next week. We could be in the midst of training camp where we could still be talking about. What are they going to start. We'll see we're talking about best in worst case scenarios for the pittsburgh steelers heading into camp. Brian you thought of this topic. Is there anything you want to you know. Are there any logistics that we or the listeners need to know before we get started yes training camp only nothing for the season okay so this preseason possess also in game reason there yeah i mean they break camp before the last preseason game right yeah just basically from from now until september twelfth. So the that's good said who wants dr. aj any takers. Who wants to start. You know what i can. I can take this one. And i'm not i'm not gonna go with the easy one. Are you playing best or worst right now. I'll go with best okay and one of the best case scenarios that the pittsburgh steelers could possibly have. Is that matt canas. Offense feels like home and feels like old hat okay. So you're saying the best case. seamless yes. Okay very seamless. Transition ablest transit. That's a good one brian. Dave you having. I was gonna say i have. I have mine. I could go next. But let's talk about this. I that really would be because like one of my scenarios that i did. For jeff semis. Thirty scenarios and thirty days was actually talking about the steelers penalties for this year. And that's one of the biggest in jeff worry about when you have a new coordinator especially with one with. They're going to be implementing a lot of motion. They're going to be some. You know illegal formation false start or anything because of the timing of stuff issues being off if they have. That seamless transition. And i'm just talking about those kinds of penalties in the preseason even let alone since read a lot of talk about the regular season that would that that is something good to look for to see you know best case scenario. That seamless everyone just. We don't notice that the players don't seem lost a new system. That's a really good point. Yeah all right. Dave energy deers. Yup mine is best case scenario that you have that you have a battle for the center position not who's going to win it by default but you actually have multiple good options of. Who's going to win that job. And i believe you've gone on record to state that you think kendra green is going to win that outright correct. That's what i hope. I'm doing that more of a because my biggest fear is and should live in our fears up to the playoffs. But we try not live. Here's my biggest fear is that it's going to be a out. Who who do. We have to put their rather than someone stepping up and and multiple people showing that they can play the position. And you just have to go with which one is best and ready right away because my fear is if you have to go with not a great option either way that you might as well go with green. But i don't see how they can do that saying he's still not under contract. Yeah and so. Let's go into mind because that was my number one and that is kindergarten actually signs rookie contract. I i can't even imagine. I can't even believe we're still do doing this in i've as dave i've literally i mentioned this on my legs ride podcast wednesday and it was. We've had this free right written for months. 'cause edward key minicamp. They signed a slew of players. As friar meath harris like all these guys is boom boom boom boom signed sometimes multiple at a time and we're thinking up kendra greens last one. Let's do this pre right in. We're still sitting on it. I do think it's going to happen. But what brian and guess who feel trapped to that again a me. I'm thinking kendrick green sign. That's because it was a dashboard. Relate but jeff literally wrote that article hours. After the last. I was the last one to sign before green right. I think so. 'cause deliveries pre right those articles otherwise is because sometimes they are grouped together. Like i know. Dan more buddy johnson. They were both announced that the same. So you don't really know how to prepare for it. Well there's only one guy left or like boy might as well get it ready for. He's gonna sign and we've been waiting. We have been waiting. Indeed let's get to. George put five in a tip jar. Thank you very much. George he says. Do you think you. Canada's offense will translate to the national football league spurrier in kelly ladies befriended chip kelly. They failed The i think this is a really good question I do think that the offense is are different I don't think a chip kelly. My gosh i mean you're talking about the offense players. Sprinting down the field. I mean they had three outs in. The defense had just been on on the field forty five seconds earlier. That was a little bit extreme in terms of the college philosophy. I don't think that canada's offense is like that a brian. I'll let you go. I will debut personnel chiming. Go ahead. gran what you think about that question. First of all chip. Kelly's offense was a distraction when you're holding up pictures of be arthur and spongebob on the sidelines to call plays. What's going on here. You know. I really like the way matt canada. He adapts to every situation. And he kind of he. Taylor's his offense. It's not hey. This is my way or the highway. He kind of tailor his system to where that we're that offense already is. So he's he's taking his offense and saying all right ben roethlisberger ura forty eight long. I'm gonna make. I'm gonna make this fit you like a beautiful suit and he's going to do that the whole way around the biggest problem. I had with randy feet. Offense was in two thousand nineteen when he had his ben rothlisberger offense and when ben rothlisberger went out. Mason rudolph comes in and they was ready to know what to do. Randy did not know how to adapt it to another quarterback and he didn't know how to adapt it to duck. Hodges either so it was kind of a disaster that way because it wasn't innovative when you're innovative in when you're good and when you're an offensive genius and nobody's ca saying he's a genius yet that has yet to be seen but what we're saying about what matt candidate can do. And what are we seem a different places that he's been he knows how to tweak and make it the pittsburgh steelers offense. It's not the maryland. Offense is not the panthers offense. It's not the nc state offense. What do you think about that. Dave it well first of all. I have to say chip kelly. Part of his problem was insisting on doing the personality went with and like he didn't care about having any he got rid of great players In order to have guys that he thought could do what he wanted to do bass which isn't a bad idea but what he did wasn't really that good to get by with the players anyway. He was also the first person i ever made a mean about. That was funny but the difference. I see it matt. Canada is it was something. I don't know where. I caught this if it was someone on. Nfl network. i'd watch full shows or anything. But i'll see clips and things on twitter. When matt canada was hired. One of the one of the people said it might have been espn or something. Non-local pittsburgh person said matt candidate is someone that. Nfl coaches have been. You know kind of tweaking. His brain about bringing the college game. You know implementing certain things for the college game to the nfl for a while. The pittsburgh steelers are the ones who are actually giving him a shock to do it. That's the one thing and the other thing is you had a year with him i. He didn't go straight from college to being offensive coordinator or head coaches the other guys. He actually eased in a little bit as the quarterbacks coach for year. I think that'll help. But it's still not certain that's still a really good question. My i'm going to answer this by asking you both a question. Gee think that man canada's offense is based off of gimmicks in any way shape or form. Brian what do you think not really no. But if they were who cares can win. Fence was based on gimmicks. And they did some well with some of those gimmicks. Slowly it trick. Not a gimmick. Okay then he makes he mixed some mix some stuff in. He makes them trips in. Okay let me let me let me ask this again. Because i'm not sure if you understand what i'm thinking with gimmicks not understand that when i think of gimmicks i'm thinking of like a chip kelly style offense. We were talking about looking at the sideline. You see cards. You're gonna play. You're running rapid straight up like that is the way that they just completely unorthodox so cameras and hunt with legal inserted malarkey. They both loved to use trick. Plays but it wasn't a gimmick offense or a very standard in terms of professional style. Offense do you think canada's offense is more professional style or more gimmicks. I think it's more of a professional style. Absolutely not a gimmick offense in my opinion. Okay dave what do you think i would say. I mean we still haven't seen it. You know what i'm saying. We're based on what we know. Now what we expect from it. I'm gonna say it could be. It could be. It's pushing the envelope more than others than others would towards being quote unquote gimmicky. But i don't think it's going there. Because i i don't think it's abandoning. The basic principles of what would be considered a pro offense. I'm i don't. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like i know i tell you what i do know is. I've read jeffrey. Benedict's offense have breakdown articles this offseason where he's gone into really didn't fascinating just to learn about football. He's gone into everything from how matt keenan likes to run play action. the the shifts the pre-snap movement and he literally take one play and he will diagnose everything that's happening with every it's pretty. I'm telling you if you haven't seen him good film rooms action on the website. Scroll down on behind the curtain dot com. Click on steelers film ramin. you'll find them In it's not gimmicky. In my opinion it's doubt matchups. It's based on matchups. He sees a match up that he wants to exploit and he finds a way to do it in its unique in. It's different but i don't think that's gimmicky and i don't think gimmicky. I think that's very intelligent. That's forward thinking and that's something the steelers haven't had as an offensive coordinator. Since maybe some of those coordinators i mentioned in malarkey was because i don't think todd haley was forward thinking either. He was very reactionary. And so is going to be different. I was gonna say. Maybe bruce arians but all all. I wasn't forgetting ben. Killed all the time you know you. That's but as as graduate says in the live chat asked that question after week or two even of the preseason and he's we have no idea how ben and canada constructing what they like to do. It's gonna take time it's going to evolve it has to evolve if it doesn't evolve will be randy lane two point. Oh because you never any feeders. Offense never evolved once since he was Hired as the offensive coordinator okay. So we've kind of gotten attract every those a great question by george question are so. Let's go back into best. Moore's we need to stay with best. Brian or we can go over the worst. It's up to you go ahead. Let's go to worst gay. And i'm going to continue the kendrick green trade train here and what i'm going to stay with kendrick. Green is the worst case. Scenario is that he is still a project not ready to move from guard to center full-time there. Yeah i got it from that perspective of guard versus center. I see that. I get to me though brian i get. I think i agree. One hundred percent but is vinnie. Ready is like the next part of that if any is oguz capable than okay if he's a project and they can wait a year or two. We'll see and i think dave kind of covered that in his when he was talking about the center for sure. All right dave. What's yours worse. worst case scenario. I hate to even say because you don't like to use the word but let's just say positions where the steelers are thin. They get thinner. I'll just say injuries day. Because that's i mean you're going to deal with injuries no matter what you want to deal with injuries. But there are a few key positions that if there's an injury you're much i mean i hate to say well be you know they're really anyway so if you're dealing with something even if you're talking about a reserve person not being available you could really be in trouble based on a a specific injury. I can't remember and i talked about it. What at twenty twenty eighteen. When the steelers went most of the season with just three inside linebacker outside linebackers. I mean because like people like the denny but he was on he went on. I r early. It was just cicchillo. And bud watt and that was it i mean and they went with. They've rolled with just three and they actually got by with it. And i i. I mean they didn't have anyone else in the roster. That's what's crazy and you're really playing with fire that circumstance. But i'm just hoping that if they if and when i should say when they suffer some injuries. It's not one of the positions where there already thin. That's a good one brian. Aiding to say about that. We need someone who's going to bring up injuries at some point. And that's that's the easy. One and i fully concur with dave on that one my worst case scenario and this is i didn't put these in any specific order. Is someone or some people. Some players plural shows up to camp out of shape I hate that it. I hated it. When casey hampton used to do for bill cower they will do the run test and he would fail it in cower. Talk about how hamptons on can be practicing today because he's going to be doing conditioning. Work on the sideline. I just know that. Mike tomlin more so than bill. Coward preaches conditioning conditioning conditioning conditioning. Show up in shape showed up in shape. It's a last thing. He said that the media before they cut minute. Mandatory mini camp. Was the last thing i told my team was show up in shape. The worst case scenario there's players that don't listen to him. Don't show up in shape and we've all seen how this fan base this media the covers the team. They would just jump on that like flies on you know what and i just don't want it to happen so hopefully everyone comes into shape. I in good condition. And that's gonna help them with as minor injuries and bumps and bruises and things like that all right. Go ahead brian. What's your next one. All right let's go back to best case scenario and what. We're what i'm going to look at here. Is that somebody emerges from the from the defensive backfield that you were not expecting to. Do you have someone in mind. Yeah everybody wants james pierre but i'm looking more at a justin lane. I'm not predicted about lusting lost. Eljay i'm looking at. I'm you know what we put. We definitely put a lot of labels on these players before they get before they get to year three. And we've already label eljay here or j. l. or whatever you wanna call them but in everybody is really on the. I wanna call them one pierre because of the baseball player but james peer everybody's on jean-pierre bandwagon and it would be great if he comes up and people were expecting people. It's now wouldn't it be great to know he's going to. Everyone expects it and that could go. That can go in another direction but you need somebody to step up at corner and if somebody else now there's other guys there you've got you've got the undrafted free agents or brown. You have mark gilbert. I mean best case scenario would be if this guy gets over his injury problems and shines but somebody had corner needs to be there to kind of to kind of soften the blow of steven nelson being gone. Let me say my boy lust in justin lane and if you listen to my Let's ride podcast from last season. You know exactly what. I'm talking about him why we call him that. If you don't ask in the live chat if watching live in no explain it to you But for me. I hope he plays well. This is a third round draft. Pick that they spend on. This quarterback for michigan state steven nelson is gone in. This is perfect. The doors wide open for him to step up and say you know what i can take the outside. This is what i'm supposed to be doing. let me take. This is his third year in the league. This is the time that you would think. He stepped into that role. Now they did kampot. No one knows how they're going to utilize him but he's gonna be an every single outside You know every down outside cornerback player if he's gonna flex around that you're hearing are there. I hope he plays well. I really do. I really do dave's or anything. usa now. Brian you guys took a job with that. All right. what's your next Best-case scenario my best case scenario. Is that this team. Plays this season with five. Numbers burned into their skull that they don't forget and that is one one zero two one. Don't forget that date and what happened on that date. And what took your season and how all that and everything that went down and got in such a hole. You couldn't overcome it or maybe you could. If you weren't living in your fears. But i'm not going there in other words that should be your driving force is because that's all everyone right now is taking off. That's all the entire narrative about the two thousand twenty one. Pittsburgh steelers is based on their last time. They stepped on a football field and rightfully so because of what you saw the everything that they did before. That and i mean especially the first half of the season we know how all kind of fell apart but all that seems to be forgotten that that you know the was major problems maybe not just one thing or two that went in the wrong direction. This team and these players and this franchise. They believe that they were really close. Even when some of those other things were falling apart that it that it wasn't major issues. It was minor things the couple too many minor things that added up. And if you fix those minor things than there's no stopping them they need to remember that and that's what should carry them. Not just in the start of the season. But you need to remember that next january when you're playing week seventeen and eighteen and hopefully beyond a good one brian. Anything to add to that. No i like that completely. Yeah absolutely. I'll tell you what. This is a good time for a break. When we come off the break. I'm going to give a best case scenario Fund one surrounding one. mr devon. bush says you're listening to the audio side. Please head over to part two. If you're watching live on. Facebook or youtube stay tuned. we're not going anywhere. Stays stay right here. We'll be right back after this break support for. This episode comes from t. mobile. We're a lot more than just baseball. Fans we're baseball fanatics and thanks to t mobile. We can stay connected to the game. We love with five gene. more places. t. Mobile is your ticket to the game. So whether your home or away. You're never far from your favorite team with america's largest and fastest five gene network. 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Let's Ride: Steelers fans, dont freak out about the T.J. Watt news

Behind the Steel Curtain

32:21 min | 2 months ago

Let's Ride: Steelers fans, dont freak out about the T.J. Watt news

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Steelers or behind the curtain so that you don't miss a thing subscribe follow you'll get my show. You'll get the live. Mike on tuesday morning the staticky with dave scofield on thursday morning. All these new shows that are debuting. The fantasy fix with jeremy bets on wednesday natty perils war room on thursday friday or could be saturday. I'm not sure is the power half hour with the ohioans and then all of our afternoon content remains the same. It's really exciting time. We're going to be doing. Some new shows coming up in just a few weeks terribly. Jeffrey benedict's the cutting floor. Should be debuting in. That is exciting. What was exciting for me and There is something. I put this on my twitter feed. You can follow me on twitter at j. hartman. Underscore p it. That there's something i've sound off about. There's something i have to sound off. That i'm going to get to it before the first break. But that's not the focus of the podcast. I always said a headline. We've got a lot of stuff to talk about today. This is not going to be me going off on one topic for thirty minutes. I'm actually going to be tackling three topics in one show. Based on the fact that on wednesday not only am i going to be doing my mailbag in the second half. But i'm gonna be getting everyone ready for the upcoming preseason game against the philadelphia eagles on thursday. So there's a lot to get through. And then obviously friday show is going to be a recap of the game on thursday so the news that we want to talk about happened on saturday and that was the keith other defensive coordinator keith brother kind of spill the beans a little bit. No one knew why. Tj why wasn't practicing fully tj. Watt is been there. He's working out but he has not been participating with pads on he has not been participating with team drills one on one rosie and he wasn't a part of backs on backers things that no one knew why mike tomlin said he doesn't have to talk about injuries. So he's not gonna say anything with that makes you feel like well. Maybe he's banged up. Maybe he's got a shoulder. Maybe he has you know something with his back. I don't know but nonetheless key keeper butler is the one that kind of he said he spilled the beans any made. It seem like now. Unless he's lying. Which i doubt he is the reason why. Tj is not participating fully is because of his contract status that he's in his fifth year option. We're talking about tj wad. Anti j. watt is expecting a megadeal. I get it i would. I would expect to megadeal of our. T. j. watt as well and with that being said he's not going to participate in those drills until that deal is done. Now we know the steelers don't do contracts wants. The regular season begins. So you're thinking about this situation. You're like well what's going to happen. Yeah they're going to get a deal. Done the clock is officially taking and there were a lot of steeler fans out there that were ringing the bill. Oh my gosh. The world is ending my. Gosh what are we gonna do go. My gosh they're gonna let tj calm down people. That's the headline of this podcast. Steeler fans don't freak out about the j. watt news. Just don't do it. Don't freak out about it. I'll give you a several reasons. Why okay several reasons. Why i is that. Tj wad is not technically holding out. He is not holding out. He showed up on time he did not miss. A day of practice has not missed a day of practice. As of this being recorded he is in great shape and he is actually working during practices. he's doing drills. He's doing individual drills. He's doing conditioning drills he is. They're working his tail off. The only thing he's not doing is dawning the pads hitting in all those type of things. I think fans need to realize that as of right now as we sit here we are looking at a situation where the pittsburgh steelers are technically entering week. One of preseason know they play last thursday in hall of fame game but this upcoming week is technically week one even though it will be their second game this tells this means that they have roughly three and a half four weeks to try to get a deal. Done with t. J. watt the fact that we know why tj water sitting out in the fact that there is time remaining makes me very comfortable. That deal will get done. It makes me comfortable. That the steelers know that he wants a deal. The steelers want to keep him our room. The second is talked about it. the kevin colbert's talked about it. Mike thomas talked about it. You would be absolutely insane if you would want to let t. J. watt walk and now some on twitter especially steelers. Twitter was all on fire about this and they. They say he's under contract. He needs to do his job. And all this stuff. I get it. And he's there. It's not a hold out of well. He's not showing up. he's not doing anything. Allow leon bell. When he was franchise tagged. That's not that's not what he's doing. he's just not putting himself in a position where he could have a serious injury. I wouldn't want to do that either. And keith butler. The defensive coordinator said that as a former nfl linebacker. I don't think people realize that keith. Butler actually played in the league. He played for the seattle seahawks back in the day. He was a linebacker and so he said i get it. This is people want to say it's a game. It's a business and tj watt right now with probably his agent said. We want to get the deal done so show up on time. Worker tail off. Never miss a session. But we're gonna tell the steelers that you're not gonna participate in those type of drills in any preseason game until a new deal is done and we have solidified your new contract which should be very very lucrative very very lucrative just back that brings truck right up to the heinz field front door tell. tj watson. bring several bags and suitcases. And we'll just pile the cash on in there. I don't think anyone expects ending less. And i still do feel that. This deal is going to get done sooner than later. Could it happen as soon as this week. Possibly now that the cats out of the bag. There's a good chance at the steelers. Say oh crap now we have to get this deal. Done fans are going to be pissed off. What the heck we gotta get a deal done all right all right. Let's let's really sit down at the negotiating table or it could wait until the witching hour we've seen that happen on more than one occasion with the pittsburgh steelers last season it was cam hayward they got a contract late in training camp I could be wrong. It could have been earlier but he got a deal. Prior to the season everyone always remembers troy paulo. Malu signed his contract in the airport heading to the week. One game that year It's one of those situations where the steelers do everything they can. They feel is right to get a deal. Done unless tj wad is asking for some unbelievably ridiculous crazy amount. I think it's gonna get done. So steelers fans have some solace in the fact that what is there what is working. He is in shape. He is working hard. He is in the film rooms. He's attending meetings. He's doing everything except for those live hitting drills understand that they also have time. They still have time to get a deal. Done just like with the quarterback situation when you look around the nfl. With josh allen. Getting paid by the buffalo bills will that's going to trigger a a ripple effect that's going to impact lamar jackson baltimore baker mayfield and cleveland. So he's probably just waiting around. He's they're looking at comparable contracts. How much is he going to pay looking at ed. Rushers pass rushers. How much are they getting paid. Where does he fit into that scheme. The steelers are going to make him the highest paid defender probably in the national football league. But they need to make a deal. That's right for them financially. Salary cap wise just like they. Dj wide needs to get a deal. That's financially right for him. He probably wants to do right by both himself. And the organization. The steelers probably want to do the same when you have that situation. It's only a matter of time. So hopefully my hope fingers crossed that this deal gets done prior to the next preseason game no not philadelphia the game after that which is actually at home the detroit lions that way. He could participate in that game and then the last week. They don't have to worry about him. he's not gonna play in that game. He's getting ready for the regular season. That would be the perfect situation. And i don't think he's missing anything either. I don't think the he's a player that needs these repetitions. Hack give these repetitions to quincy rochet to jamir jones to alex highsmith. And now even melvin ingram to get him a chance to get acclimated. This is fine right now. If this lingers it can become a problem but right now it's okay so fans don't freak out. Don't freak out about this news not yet anyways. Not yet all right. Let's talk about what i wanted to sound off on. So i never a lot of speeches in the hall of fame weekend. Obviously saturday was very pro steelers. That had the crowd was great. I thought it was awesome. Listening to donnie. Shell troy paula. Malo and bill cower in that order and they had them sprinkled in probably because they knew that at the steelers. Let's say they would have done. Donnie shell troy paula. Malu and bill cower right in a row and they still had all these other people steal offense probably would've left. They don't wanna stay for anything else so they spring him in they kept cowards of the end steeler fan stuck around. They had a full crowd. It was great. I recorded the event. Because i really don't care to hear jimmy johnson spout off about cowboys talk or whatever dolphins because he was with dolphins sounds horrible. I don't care it sounds horrible but it's the truth. I don't care so i recorded. I went. I watched donnie. Shell speech very good job. I was so happy that he got in. I never watched him play. He was done before. I was old enough to know anything about football. But knowing what he's done for the steelers winning four super bowls listening to my dad talk about him. The torpedo was great to see him. Get in troy. Speech was awesome. It was awesome. I mean when you heard troy paula. Malu talk about what it meant to be a pittsburgh steeler. I got chills. When i was listening to it and under sa- fan. I got chills listening to it. I definitely it reminded me of the jack lambert speech. It was different. But reminding jack lambert when he got into the hall of fame where he had that famous quote. That said if. I could do it all over again. I'd be a professional football player. And you better damn well believe i'd be a pittsburgh steeler and it makes you feel like you want to run through the wall. Gosh it just gets your fired up in when troy palmolive said about the old guys would show up this players from the seventies. Whether it's mel blunt donnie. Shell franco harris lynn swann. It doesn't matter who. I could name the a probably the entire starting roster. He said it's when they looked at you and said you could have played for us. He's that's when you knew they had the you had their respect and i'm getting chills is talking about it. And then bill cower gets up there at the end and what a great speech. I kinda wish. He would have talked about coaching for the steelers more but he didn't have to. his resume. speaks for itself. The wins the super bowl. Victory success that he had the longevity he had while in pittsburgh's following chuck noll. He talked about his family as a father of four daughters and a son. He talked about his daughters were there. He lost his wife. Kay it's emotional. I got a little emotional watching knocking ally. Anyone that has a family understands lost. A loved one like he has. It's it's difficult. And so i've finished. Bill cowers speech in. I turned it off. And i i was thinking to myself now i leave my fan mowed. My brain is in fan. Nude i leave fan mode. I turn it off and now i'm thinking to myself. I'd switch it over to editor editor and podcast mood and so i'm thinking about what can i do with this stuff. I don't want to try to rid any of this off. I don't want to try to duplicate anything. That's not what i wanna do. So i wrote an article and thankfully the steelers official twitter feed had the full speeches for all three individuals. I put them in an article and ran it. And so then. I started to think well i would be. It would be really cool article to go in and we have a list on behind the steel curtains twitter. That is all the current players in some former players. I want to go in there and see who's talking about these hall of fame speeches at current players. That would be really cool to write an article that kind of puts all the tweets and all that stuff from current players that are watching the hall of fame speech speeches into an article this all the time when the steelers win and players go to twitter. And say yeah. That's right wanna know whatever Here we go loved the steelers of my teammates. We always compile those in an article. So i go there. It's a good idea. It would probably do well from an editorial standpoint in all my gosh. i'm stunned. I'm absolutely stunned. I'm stunned when i go to this twitter list which has every current nfl and steeler player. It has several former players. And there's nothing nothing now. I'm not talking about the former players. Because i taylor is there. Joey puerto rosario casey hampton. Was there a bunch of other players there. Aaron person so obviously they're not going to be tweeting during that. But i don't care about that generation. I'm talking about the current players. There was only one that i saw. And then i've seen at the moment of this being recorded. That actually said anything about that. Day that evening those speeches and now juju smith schuster and he was speaking specifically to troy paulo malu. We know that jews. Mr comes from a samoan background. Troy paulo malo. Definitely we know that he comes from simone background there both from usc. He basically congratulated him on getting into the hall of fame and in such an honor other than that. Nothing now. i understand that the last time this was a situation where the steelers played the hall of fame game. They organized at bleed and dick lebeau got inducted. They had the whole team there. It was pretty cool to see. I understand what the protocols and things of that nature. That was not going to happen this year. Especially also based on the fact that the way the schedule lines up and with the fact that this is unique because they are having more enshrinement. They had more treatments on sunday. That was one allen janika got in he got his induction and all that stuff. But my gosh. I i find it hard to believe in. Maybe they just didn't put this on social media which is a possibility. Keep that in mind which is a possibility but for these guys that go out on social media whether it's instagram twitter doesn't matter tick talk and they will tweet out about how cool it is. Their favorite rapper is dropping a new album. You're telling me that you watch troy. Paula mollahs speech. And maybe we'll stop it troy because a lot of people might a lot of players might not care about bill cower. He's been gone for a while while he last season was in two thousand and six. Maybe it's not donnie. Shell because donnie. Shell was a member of the steel curtain. Defense in the seventies whatever. Troy paula. Mall was a generational player. That even these guys that are playing now were young enough to remember watching him play. And how dynamic was your. But you're telling me when they're watching this and if they're not watching it why are they not watching it. They're watching troy palmolive. Get up there and talk about what it means to be a member of the steelers what it means to where the black and gold to defend the black and gold to always uphold the standards set forth by the rooney family and everything else and everyone else that went before. You understand what it means. You're telling me that none of those players felt compelled motivated inspired to go on their social media. Feeds and say wow. I have a new appreciation for the team. That drafted me. I have a new appreciation for the team to pick me up as a free agent. I have a new appreciation for this organization. None of that happened. I'm telling you where is it. Where is it if my mike tomlin. I'm sitting down every single player in a meeting room in there watching that speech there watching that speech and i'm gonna make sure that every single player on ninety players on that offseason roster. I don't care of your player. That's not going to make the team. You're going to understand what it means to wear the black and gold even if it's for a preseason game you're going to understand what it means to represent all those fans around the world you're going to understand what it means to walk through those doors and see those lombardi trophies every single day. I was really disappointed. i really was. I just felt any ben. Rothlisberger doesn't even run his social media accounts he did some tweets and re tweets a things like that. But i'm a fan. I'm just a fan. I have no bearing on that organization whatsoever. Other than the fact that i write about them. I talk about them in podcast form in. I was inspired. I was motivated. I just felt like these players who are so quick to just go on twitter and talk about anything under the sun. Where's the where is that. Talk about the steelers the organization. I was disappointed. Maybe they'll change. Maybe at you know training camp practices when players are interview. They will talk about that and they'll say how they watched it in. They appreciated what they had to say. I don't know. But i was really kind of upset. That especially troy's speech especially choice speech did not stir up something in these players that says boy. This isn't just another football team. This isn't just another organization for crying out loud. Brian baldinger the nfl network. He played for three nfl teams. I believe he said after watching that speech he wanted to be a member of the steelers. Darned hope these guys are motivated and they just didn't put it on social media. I hope that's the case. I hope they listen detroi- we all know troy's a different guy i he is a different guys a different beast but what he said in that speech. Saturday night should resonate with every single fan in every single player that ever has or ever will put on that black and gold helmet. And that's all. I'm going to say about that. We're gonna take a quick break when we get back when we talk about players to watch coming up this thursday night when the steelers traveled to the wrong side of the state and by the philadelphia eagles. Thanks to t. mobile for supporting this episode and for keeping baseball fans around the country connected to the game. Because when you're on america's largest and fastest five g. network you get more than great coverage you get to stay close to your favorite team whether you're at home or on the road in other words t mobile is your ticket to the game. Make the switch to t mobile the leader in five g. today that's this. According to open signal awards based on average speeds in usa five day experience report april thousand twenty one c five g. device coverage and access details at t. mobile dot com. All right welcome back to the second segment on this. Let's ride podcast. i'm your host. Jeff harmon senior still curtain dot com. I hope you are able to get through my little rant there. Sometimes there are things that rubbed me the wrong way. You'll find this adding kisha a new listener. You're someone that's saying. Wow what jeff. Just kind of went off their own for nothing. It wasn't for nothing that it's just something that sticks with me and for whatever reason i just felt like that is needed to be. I needed to say that. I haven't told my wife about it. I was sitting there. And i'm bringing my show and she goes. What are you gonna talk about. And i said i just i gotta get this off my mind. I gotta get this off my chest and so there you have it there. You have it all right folks. Let's get to this players to watch. This was a podcast that i did last week. Which is a standalone. Podcast on monday. And i and actually considered keeping that format especially with the preseason like who should be keeping an eye on. But i didn't feel like this week. We needed to do an entire segment on it. Our entire show. I should say we can do a segment based on the fact that i didn't want to duplicate my answers from last week when you think about last week going into the hall of fame game i told you the following players you should be keeping an eye on during the the hall of fame so on offense. It was kendrick green. He started did a good job. Dame more junior started did a good job. Dwayne haskins our first. Look dwayne haskins with the steelers uniform on anthony mcfarland got some carries and then i had pat. Fire me too. I thought it was hopeful. Was going to play. He banged up his shoulder but he didn't play and defense. I said jane fear he got more comfortable as the game. Progressed antoine brooks. Junior started the game. I thought he acclimated well. He showed good. Blitzing off the edgy list. Gilbert the third. He started and did not look good. I was very disappointed. In ulysses gilbert the third buddy johnson played. I thought he played well for rookie. Was always around the football. And then quincy rochet. Who had a sack. I thought it was a good game. I even gave you some honorable mentions with nause harris. He got his first carries as a professional james washington we all know the saga james washington and him reportedly wanting to request a trade and then the steelers on saturday saying no. That's not the case he doesn't trade he didn't do much he didn't play much. I'll say that but yet to targets no catches cam sudden. He played outside opposite. James peer eat. We know what we have their presley harbin. Big press. my gosh. What a game. I talked about him in my winners and losers calm. And then trade term melvin. Ingram both did not play so what i decided to do today is. I'm going to decrease the list. But i'm going to do it in a different way. I wanted to do players that did not play or i did not have on the previous list. There's no reason for me to talk about kendrick green again. I already did that and he already played so players to watch. That didn't mention last week. We're going to break them up by three on offense three on defense and they're all listed for different reasons. Some are just maybe because they're coming back from their first game action of the season. Preseason maybe there's another reason so we'll talk about it. Let's start on the offensive side of the football and i'm going to start with a tackle and that would be one right tackle. Zach banner is at banner. As far as i can see unless something happens. It is expected that he is going to get his first. Preseason action on thursday night he has been practicing with the starting team unless they decide. We wanna give him one more week. To kinda get acclimated. He'll play but he's not going to play until the lions game at home. Then i would. I really wanna see what zach banner can do. And it's more so as the expectation has changed with zach banner. I don't think anyone at least me. I have no doubt that he can play. I have no doubt that he can start. I have no doubt that he can be a good right tackle for the pittsburgh steelers for the foreseeable future but he needs experience he needs experience not just on the field. He needs experience with that role of being a starter. A role of going out there and leading in being a voice because right now the steelers offense of line was anything but the projected starters. We won the. We talked about leading up to this season last week. You had left. Tackle dan moore junior left guard. Bj finney kendrick green at center. Rashad coward at right guard and right tackle was joe hague. That was the starting offensive line for the steelers. last week. Can't know how this week it should look a little different in the next person because this is a good segue the next person i have on my list offensive. Is the other tackle jukes chukwuma. Officially a core for jukes. This'll be as i live game. Action at left tackle. I wanna see what he can do. I wanna see how he looks. Kevin colbert goes out and talks to the media. Says we always thought when we drafted szucs that he would be better suited for left tackle than right. He only played in the national football league. Bright tackle because alejandro villanueva has always been on the left side. Vilna wave is now a member of the ravens. We know that puke up my mouth a little bit but still chokes on the left side. I want to see what he can do. I don't care for a drive. i want to see what he can do. And so now you look at the pieces of the puzzle. They're starting to come together. So you now. If these two players who've been battling jewkes has something he's battling some type of injuries coming back from it they're taking it easy with him zach banners coming off. Acl surgery last season. He's coming back so you have your left. Tackle left guard kevin dots and it doesn't look like he's going to play unless he gets back on the field soon Brazil so left guard might be like reshad coward. They'll price swing him over maybe. Bj finney looks like kendrick. Green is gonna continue to run with the ones until he proved. He proves he can't do it right. Guard trae turner. Who was honorable mentioned. Last week on my list. He should be back he should be playing at least a little bit. And then right. Tackle zach banner. This is going to give the fan base a little bit of a better idea as to what the offensive line is going to look like and what they can do. So i'm excited for that last player on offense as a player. I actually listened last week. So i kind of broke my own rule and that's pat youth. He didn't play. So i'm going to put them on there again. I really wanna see pat farm. You can do acetate. And he's been making ridiculous catches all camp. Let's see what he can do if if if he is an i forget the player that said it. Someone said they remind him. He reminds him of travis. Kelsey could you imagine if the steelers got a player like that. I can't stand travis kelsey. He's a crybaby but ultimately if the steelers had one of those palm yeah. I'll take it thank you very much. So that's my office player. Now let's go to defense three defense players first on the list is devin. Bush devin bush. He's coming back just like banner off the aco last season. He did not play last thursday. I would imagine they wanna get him. Some live game raps dave. Scofield had a great point. We were kind of arguing not arguing. Were messaging back and forth on our slack. Channel about why i thought devon bush should play he said devin bush should not play based on the fact that the field canton's is reportedly always awful and see that's a good point that's a good point philadelphia's a natural grass surface. They should be fine getting him out there. Let's get him some reps get him some hits and then get out of there. And then you have melvin ingram. He's my next on the defensive list. I just want to see what he can do. We not j. watt unlikely to play for obvious reasons in case you were asleep at the beginning of the podcast. Go back and listen to the beginning. But melvin ingram. I really feel like he is. He's going to get the reps to get himself situated in pittsburgh. There's not much this guy has to learn he. He probably already grasped the the the scheme he just has to learn the verbiage. He has to know what to say in certain situations hill. Be fine but i want to watch him. I'm excited and then i also defense and this is based solely on the performance last week. Is alex highsmith. I want to see alex. Highsmith do what he did last week. Again tell me show me. It wasn't a flash in the pan. Show me that this is what we can expect now from you as a pass rusher in the national football league and wow that will be something else that then then because if you have. Alex highsmith doing that all the time. I don't care who's going against. I don't care if it's backups. Third third-string doesn't matter if he's doing that and he's making guys look foolish. And then you have melvin ingram. Who looks like he's the. Da he still has it. And then you get tj wad back. Eventually all of a sudden people are going to be saying bud depre- who that pass rush is going to be absolutely lethal absolutely lethal. So those are my six players to watch offense zach. Banner core for in pat. Fry patty firm. You defense devon bush. Melvin ingram alex. Highsmith i do wanna watch presley harvey and again. I'm curious are they going to sprinkle jordan berry jordan. Berry did nothing in that first game. So we'll see if the battle actually takes place in philadelphia on thursday night. All right folks. That does it for me. Make sure you check out the podcast. All of our podcast makes you check out my. Let's ride podcast on wednesday going to be talking about expectations for the steelers coming up against philadelphia. It's different feel to it than that first game which we knew just going to be nothing but death players. This has a different feel to it. We'll be talking about that as well as recapping. Some of what might tomlinson his press conference on tuesday. Also we'll be answering your questions so make sure you follow me on twitter at j. harmon age. Rtm a n. underscore on tuesday. I'll put out the question. Which is hey who's got questions. Fire away and i'll answer them in the second part of my show all right folks. That does it for me. I appreciate you listening and taking part of that rant at the beginning of the end of the first segment. I can't say that that's the only time there's going to be more rants coming. I guarantee it. In the meantime folks you know we finished it out. Here be safe. Be kind in god. Bless have a great day. We'll see on wednesday free burner support for this. Episode comes from t. mobile. We're a lot more than just baseball. Fans we're baseball fanatics and thanks to t mobile. We can stay connected to the game. We love with five gene. more places. t. Mobile is your ticket to the game. So whether your home or away. You're never far from your favorite team with america's largest fastest five g. network. Don't get caught looking switch to t mobile the leader and five g. today fastest according to open signal awards based on average and usa five g. Experience report able two thousand twenty one survived device coverage and access details t. mobile dot com.

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Let's Ride: What will it take for the Steelers to reclaim their team identity?

Behind the Steel Curtain

32:48 min | 4 months ago

Let's Ride: What will it take for the Steelers to reclaim their team identity?

"Support for this episode comes from t mobile. We're a lot more than just baseball. Fans were baseball fanatics and thanks to t mobile. We can stay connected to the game. We love with five g and more places. T mobile is your ticket to the game so whether your home or away. You're never far from your favorite team with america's largest and fastest five g network. Don't get caught looking. Switch to t mobile the leader and five g today fastest according to open awards based on average speeds in usa five experience. Report april two thousand twenty one see five g device coverage and access details at t. Mobile dot com. This for sealer fans honest jump. Harbin senior editor behind still hurting dot com. That's still sounds weird but still we're here for another less ride podcasts. That's right or monday. Wednesday and friday morning podcasts. I hope did you have had a great week. I hope that you are prepared for this weekend. I know that i am. We have a lot of stuff going on in the hartman household. Getting ready to move again. That's always chaotic but nonetheless. I'm always here with you every monday. Wednesday and friday. No matter what. I'd have to literally be in the hospital or something to not give you your. Let's ride podcast. My writer dia crews loyal as possible. So i have to follow that up with me being loyal to you the listeners. Now in case you didn't know where a part of behind this curtain dot com should be your one stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers and wherever you get your podcasts. Search steelers or behind the steel curtain subscribed follow. Whatever you have to do so that you don't miss a thing and that's not just my. Let's ride podcast. But that's also the live. Mike with our deputy editor michael back. This dealer staticky. Dave great episode on thursday morning makes you check that out Really dove into some numbers about the the overall steelers offense and defensive numbers rankings. It was really great as a great listen announced dave skill field the editor of venice curtain dot com. And then we have all of our pm shows. We're talking about the hangover on monday. The labor show on tuesday. The curtain call on wednesday the preview on thursday friday night. Six pack with tony. On friday saturdays the touchdown under two am on saturdays. But it also is like the war room with many peril and the retro show with tony and brian. Anthony davis and then you obviously have factor fiction with. Brian rooney davis that's all audio platforms. Wherever you get your podcasts. It makes you check it out. One of the things i like to do on this podcast of is to talk about. Why and where these things come from where these ideas come from you brian. Anthony davis used to do an article for behind the curtain dot com which was random thoughts from black and gold. Mine and he did. A great job is really funny and he just kinda got to the point where he's like. I'm struggling with things to talk about. This podcast is essentially my random thoughts from my mind. I just. I'm i think about what i'm going to talk about on podcast constantly. I'm driving in a car on on the golf course or cutting grass talked about that before in sometimes these ideas. Just come to me. You know a part of this. I'm going to talk about the the crux of this podcast here in a second before. We can't forget to talk about some news so i. My kids are in golf campus week. The three oldest mckay my son. Who's twelve my oldest daughter. Who's ten and then my second. Oldest daughter are middle child. whose aid. they're all. They've been engulfed camp all week and it's all morning from like nine till twelve and so when i drop them off. I get a large bucket of golf balls and i go to the range. I'm hitting hitting golf balls. And so i'm working on my game. They're working on their great game. It's great i love it. Love every second of it. They're they're learning about golf. They're talking about golf in. That's a positive for me. However i'm the my kids go off into camp. But i'm getting ready. Get set up and go get my bucket in and get my clubs and all that stuff and all of a sudden boom michael beck on our slack. Channel sends out breaking news. The steelers submitted a plan for them to go back to saint vincent college in latrobe pennsylvania for training camp and twenty twenty one in the national football league said no and so immediately we go into scramble mode. I guess if you wanna call it scramble mode dave and i are messaging each other. Who wants to cover. This dave's got it to help them out the back end stuff boom the articles published. But i cannot stop thinking about this news about how teams like the kansas city chiefs in their going away. They were just approved by the nfl but for some reason the nfl said noted the steelers. I wanna make sure. I i give the steelers organization some kudos. Here give them some props. Give him props when it's when when it's due and it is the fact that the steelers when they put out the statement this came from bert lawton the director of pr public relations. And it said we the steelers were hoping to get back to latrobe. We put in the you know we. We put in our submitted our plan. It didn't match the nfl's protocols for whatever ends today shots down. Why am i giving them kudos for that immediately. No fans are going to be upset with the steelers. If this deal is said we have decided to. Not go to saint. Vincent everyone would be up in arms all my gosh. I can't believe the steelers aren't going back to saint. Vincent this is ridiculous. I can't stand this. You are ridiculous. Whatever now the steelers have been pushed the buck in all the blame onto the national football league. They're saying we tried. They didn't let us sorry ends. And now you're having fans that are probably saying that can't believe roger goodell and the nfl wouldn't let them go to saint vincent college and i'm gonna keep my personal opinions about the situation. I'm gonna keep them personal. And i'm disappointed for the people that have always utilized saint vincent college as a way for them to see the steelers and not have to pay a dime. That's what i'm that's what i feel bad for. And there's people that are season ticket holders. Dave scofield's one of them And there's people that go to games on the regularly and then there's people that just can't afford tickets maybe or they just can't get out to pittsburgh and so they go to. They go to training camp in now for two straight years. They've not been able to see their favorite team. And that's a bummer. That is a real bummer. Now just to make something very clear. The steelers have stated that they are going to have some practices at heinz field in some practices are going to be held at their training. Facility are the southside facility. The up emc. Rooney's sports complex. They are planning on having some fans in attendance at those heinz field practices if you do want to see that. I don't know if you'll have to pay or any of the logistics that has not been released yet. But it is a bummer. It is a bummer. In a got me and a pretty lousy mood to be honest with you. I just felt bad for those fans that they were hoping to get back to two and we all would understand. I think if if they said you can come back. Which you know we're not gonna be able to do autographs. You're not can be right up on the that that netting that with the players are going to be walking you're gonna have to stay behind scenario. We oughta i think we would have understood that we all would have understood that but it is what it is the nfl. Said nope not going to saint vincent college this year in a lot of players believe it or not have said on social media that they're okay with it the i don't think players like that it makes me wonder and and this is something i said dave on our slack channel. I said you know it does make you question things when everyone always talks about how great the dorm life is being there at saint vincent college and how different it is and yada yada yada all this stuff mike tomlin but our seconds it. We're not going to have fans there. Were probably not going to go. Well now that makes me think this not about the dorm life. It's not about team building. It's it's about getting the fans and experience and that's fine but don't tell me how important it is to go away and then say well if there's not going to be fans we're going to stay in pittsburgh okay. I don't buy that for a second either but that's neither here that here nor there. That's the news that took place That was on thursday morning. So let's talk about what we want to talk about on this podcast. So i was searching twitter the other day and i have several listed. I follow all that. I created when i was running the behind. The steel curtain twitter page and one of them is officials. Steelers caesar current past Players in even some players that are no longer with the steelers on other teams. You just want to keep tabs on certain things and jerome bettis put out a photo. The boss beloved character in steeler nation. He put a photos of black and white image of those legendary early two thousand teams but it was. It was a picture of them kneeling in prayer before a game. You saw beddis right in front of you. Smack dab is is troy. Paul hair in the jerseys reporters there james barriers there. I could continue to go down the list of players and he talked about how he was so proud and so happy to have played in that locker room and to be a part of the that team with those players and he just really was thankful. I don't think there was. There was any part of any advertisement or he was making money. I think it was just him. Maybe found the photo and said you know what. Gosh these guys were really special to me. I'm going to put this out there. And players like ryan clark and ike taylor nate washington. They all quote tweeted it and put out their own thoughts and things like that but it made me think back to those great teams. And when you think. I don't care if you're about the seventies the mid nineties or the two thousands the one thing that all those teams had wasn't identity they all had an identity and it made me question. What will it take for this. Current steelers team to reclaim their identity. I think that we could all say that. This current team is in an in an identity crisis. No one knows what they are. One knows what the identity that they're longing for is and that's a problem now when we talk about identity i wanna make it very clear. This can be multifaceted. It can be both on and off the field. So when i think about that. Okay so you get have onfield identity and you can have off-field identity and i'm gonna talk about both of those in this podcast the importance of them. We're gonna start with off field identity. Based on the fact that the picture that i saw and you can check it out. Drew mattis twitter. Page the picture that i saw from the bus. The first thing that i thought of was off field identity. I saw a group of players that absolutely would go to. I don't know what crazy lengths to just be there for the other player next to them. They were a team. And every essence of the word team from casey hampton. Aaron smith all the way to jeff harding's at the time eventually marquees pouncey and to drome beddis in veron hanes and vastly parker. All of them doesn't matter all of them they all bought in. And so okay. What are the steelers. Current steelers need to do to kind of re build off off-field identity. Well i think that first we have to identify. Where did things go wrong because there was some overlap here people. Let's not forget that. In with when troy powell malu and ben rothlisberger. Obviously he's been there this whole time as those players started to leave and started to retire and then you had this new influx of youth and talent there was some overlap into. There was the possibility that you didn't have a lull in the identity. You didn't have a lol in the leadership or anything. Like that. And i know that i've said this before and this is true because i i heard it myself troy paulo before the super bowl. This was two years ago He was interviewed and they asked him about antonio brown and he felt horrible. Let's not forget. Antonio brown was in the locker room when troy paula. Molly was their choice. Said he didn't do enough. He didn't do enough to help a antonio brown. I honestly feel like aby not antonio brown. Ab absolutely destroyed that locker room. I mean destroyed it in there are still some remnants of that there. There are still some remnants of that there. And it's going to take a lot for this team off the field to really find this identity. What are they looking for. What are some of the characteristics that we should be looking to see if they can actually achieve those characters so you never want unity players that are willing to go like i said to any lengths to be there for their team to always have their back things like that unity. There are times where you definitely can sense that there's contention amongst the ranks will put it that way and i don't care what position we're talking about. There's always that sense sometimes. It's gotten better since antonio brown lady on belt left but there's always those moments where you feel like the unity is in question. That's a bad thing also leadership. My gosh i did a whole podcast. On assessing the leadership of the steelers. If you missed it go back and check it out. It was probably a couple of months ago. But you know you talk about players like ben rothlisberger. Now he's doing everything right. He showed up for organized team activities when he didn't have to he didn't miss anything in mandatory minicamp. He's been every part of the leader that doing everything that people want but remember leaders are naturally found in. They have people that want to follow them. They don't need to stand up in. Always give the raf speech. Sometimes you have players like alan fanta. aaron smith. I could name several others. That are just players. That people say he didn't have to say a word. we just had to follow his lead troy. Paula might be the ultimate example of that throws leader. He didn't say much but he was a leader. Absolutely he was a leader in did they need is the steelers. Current steelers team needs that type of leadership. Maybe it would be someone and it would be difficult but maybe it would be someone like nausea harass someone that has a tremendous amount of experience and success at the upper echelon of college football. Who comes in and says look. Let's do this the right way. Maybe i don't know. I'm not going to bank on that as a rookie. But it's stranger. Things have happened but they need better leadership. I don't think anyone with two is in her. Brain is going to say that the steelers probably need just a better leadership in that locker room. They need to develop an. I hate this term. I really do you know. I was in a fraternity in college. A social fraternity lambda chi. Alpha for any other lambeau is out there. But you know for me. People say like oh it's the brotherhood in an icon always rolled my eyes. Like all right. I've my my biological brother was actually in my fraternity. So we're brothers in more ways than one but still i. I wrote down on my notes but the off your identity. The brotherhood and ben rothlisberger was the one that was quoted. We were a band of brothers. Okay i get it it. It comes down to reliability being there for each other giving your all doing everything under your power to make sure that you as a group succeed so you want to call that the brotherhood. That's fine but still an and lastly accountability the one thing and we have to remember either. We all get older. The players kind of say the same age. It's kind of like matthew mcconaughey thing about these high school rose man. I get older and they stayed the same age. If you've never seen that movie your age makes you check it out. It's one of my favorite movies of all time but accountability. The one thing that's happened in. I know this from my time with dealing with young children. Because i am a middle. School teacher also coached at the high school level. They struggle younger kids. This newer generation struggles with people. That want to hold them accountable. They struggle with people. Potentially calling them out. That is something that. When i was a kid. I'm thirty eight years old. But when i was a kid if someone called you out. It was viewed as constructive criticism. You took it. You swallow your pride and you moved on and you did everything you could to get better and today had nothing more to say. Now that happens and they can -pletely shut down they they they just don't want any. The accountability aspect has to be there. And i think that you have to be you have to be a little tougher. I hate to say that you got to toughen up a little bit. Maybe this team has that makeup. We'll find out those things. Unity leadership brotherhood accountability. If they can get those and they can enjoy being around each other. That's another thing a you. Read the book Their life's work. Which is all about the seventy steelers in what you read about. From those legendary teams is they would have had a sauna in three rivers stadium. In after games they would get beers and they would go into the sauna and they would just let loose if they won. It was a party if they lost. They were calling each other out in that in that sauna room. It whether it was. Joe greene whether it was jack. Lambert ham bradshaw. They would all go in there and they didn't they didn't pull any punches. They enjoy being each other's company. That's important what about on field stuff. What about on the actual football. What needs to change for the steelers identity on the field in twenty twenty one. Well we're going to talk about that right after this break. Say activists advocate. This is advertiser content from facebook. Hi i'm taylor. I work at fox media. And i found my dream couch from maiden home thanks to a personalized out on instagram. Summer of two thousand eighteen. I moved from. 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Discover the next good idea and some small businesses on facebook and instagram visit facebook dot com slash support. Small business to learn more all right vans jeff harmon here. Senior editor of behind the steel curtain dot com. Welcome back to the second part of. Let's we're talking about identity. The steelers twenty twenty one having an identity crisis. They're not really sure. Or maybe it's just me as a fan. I'm not really sure of what this team's identity is off. The field is tough to gauge. We're not there. We don't see we can only get bits and pieces here there but on the field. Yeah we can all see that we can all see what on the field identity. Looks like where they're lacking and things of that nature. So the number one thing that i wrote when i said what they need to do to reclaim their identity on the field. The number one reason if i'm ranking them. This is at the very very top is physicality physicality get physical. This is something especially on the offense of side of the ball. They of lacked with. No this. We know adrian klemm has been preaching physicality aggressiveness front in the trenches matt. Canada's talked about it. Everyone is expecting this team especially in the offense to be more physical but it goes to the defensive side of the ball as well being the more physical team imposing your will on that team and that's my next my next onfield identity aspect is imposing your will on the opponent i think about those teams in the two thousand. And why do i keep thinking about this early. Two thousand teams. It's it's not just because they won super bowls. It's because that was the photo that jerome that is put out on twitter. And that's the photo. That was the crux of this entire podcast. In i think back to watching ryan clark hit someone like wes. Welker across the middle declining now that that that punishing hit would be not just a fifteen yard penalty. It would be a large fine and he maybe even ojection in today's nfl. I'm not here to say that that's what they should do. But it was punishing enough that teams ding twice in receivers with twice before they came over the middle. I think about watching. Alan fantasy david decastro years ago pulling on a run play. Those linemen wanted nothing to do with those guards. Both number sixty six when they were going downhill and got a head of steam. Ready to d- clete or put their helmet in someone's ear hole as they're getting ready to pool in seal off that edge for the running back imposing your will on the opposition. It is something that has been awhile. It's been a while especially on offense since the steelers have had that mentality. I asked this On the steelers preview last thursday with brian. Anthony davis day scofield guys. When was the last time the pittsburgh steelers you felt day could run outta game. And what do you mean. i mean. think back to when the bus was in pittsburgh if the steelers were clinging to a ten point lead with six minutes left in the game you knew that they could handle to jerome. Gets four yards headed to jerome. Gets three yards. Give it to him again. Three more yards. I down move the jane's keep eating up clock. that's imposing your will when everyone on the field everyone in the stands. Everyone at home knows what's coming and yet you just can't stop it. The steelers defense is the antithesis. I feel like they do have their identity in this regard. They're just they're so good. They get after the quarterback utah. You're talking top down. You have so many top number one number. Two round draft picks they're just tremendous athletes. So this is more probably for the offense in it is for the defense speaking of that offense speaking of the bus but the running game we all. I can't stress enough. How getting the running game to be more physical to be not even. It doesn't have to go from thirty seconds number one over on the. Nfl just has to go to like fifteen or sixteen. Middle of the road would be good enough to give them the balancing. They need that. It all starts up front. It starts with zach. Banner watch him. He has a lot of tape as a run blocker. Not a time as a pass blocker. But he's a lotta of tape is a run blocker. You would think he and kevin dotson now in the line inserted into the lineup. They're going to be at open some holes for the running game and so the getting the run game is going to help them with their on field identity and lastly just being a hard nosed football team be one of those teams and when i think of hard nosed for some reason i don't know why i go back to the mid nineties teams and i think of greg lloyd and kevin greene and levon kirkland and chad brown in carnell lake and dermontti dawson and jerome beddis and bam morris and berry foster and all these players and they were so. Tough hines ward. How did i forget him. I don't know but i did. They were so tough not just physically but mentally nothing phased them and then that started to leak that leaked into those two thousand teams joey porter. James farrior an unknown and on james harrison. They didn't take anything from anyone. They didn't take it from anyone. My gosh joey porter got a from a game for fighting guy beforehand. He was the ultimate intimidator. Someone tell me in the last. I don't know four or five seasons who's been the intimidator for the steelers. I'm waiting. I can't think of one. Tj watt is not an intimidator. He's a great player. Phenomenal player not intimidate. Maybe vince williams. Maybe vince williams. The maybe it's time we see a little bit of bean street from some of these players. Someone like steph onto cam heyward. My gosh mean. Joe greene was a dirty player at times. You know why he wanted to send a message hardnosed players. That's what they have to do to get their identity back on the football field. Can they do it this year. I i'm not sure. I'm not sure if you can do all those things in just one year off field you can do that in one year onfield. Sometimes it takes time but a lot of these boxes can be checked in twenty twenty one. I wanna make something else. Very clear before i go to my heart to finish up the podcast. This is not all about mike tomlin. Okay wanna make it very clear and there's a lot of people that might be listening to this podcast saying this all goes on tomlin. This is a mike tomlin problem. It's not now. Does he have a role in this equation. The situation absolutely he has a role but it's not on him in for those. That wanted always put bill cowher on this pedestal. I want you to know that even when kaur was the head coach at wasn't on cower. It really wasn't. And i'll i'll tell you one tail and it's everyone's knows that scene it's the divisional round win two thousand and five against the colds. What is what does bill cower. Say he said joey. Could you just talk this week. And what joey porter said man hell nam gonna talk. 'cause that's just what he did and that was part of their identity. Coward didn't want him to talk about jeremy stevens before super bowl forty but he did any backed it up that was part of their identity. I'm not here to say that. I wanna see people start running their mouths before game. The my gosh have an edge to you. Have an edge have some. I don't even want some cheese. Mill as razor. Ramon used to say in. The wwf oozing with msci's melody would flick his toothpick edge. Gimme some of that. And that's the players. That's all on the players. The coaches can help. But my gosh the players have to to be that type of guy you have to be a little bit of a villain who are the villains on the steelers right now. I don't care if it's on offense or defense where the bad guys where the heels. That's what i want to know. I don't see it and that's part of the problem. That's part of the problem. They need to have their that identity right speaking of identity. Let's let's talk about something here or this to finish out the show on this friday as we always do qudos to jerry cherry ban for all of our music and he's the one that gave me the idea for this heart to heart segment on every friday show. You can follow the jerry cherry ban on twitter as well as on youtube especially if you're a beginner guitar player or maybe you're moderate to dance guitarist. He does some great videos out there. I've you're an intermediate guitarist. Like i m on the acoustic guitar. I do check out his channel. It's great stuff so it makes you check him out. This hard to heart was talking with dave scofield. We talk a lot throughout the every day. Because we're trying to figure out okay. We're gonna write this article. We're going to write that article. Here's what we think about this. We'll be talking about that etc. And i was talking with him and he was bringing up about you know the fact that the last time the steelers may have lost a player or two they had a plan in place and he's maybe the maybe the steelers plan in place after losing. Bud dupree after losing my killed after losing steven nelson do being cap casualty in my response today. Which was i was. I agree with you by seguin. Response was but this is where a lot of fans falter it coming. It comes down to trust the team. Trust the organization. Trust in general a comes down to you. Do you trust this team to say we can let might hilton. Go because we have this player weakened sacrifice steven nelson for cap reasons because we have this player. Bud debris leaves. We knew he was going to leave. And that's why we have this player. You have to be able to trust. the team. has the team given us a reason to not trust maybe maybe but compared to their counterparts in the national football league no way is it worse. I gotta be honest. I mean when you're talking about trust. I trust the steelers more than most teams probably would trust their organization. They have they had some free agent gas. Absolutely you're talking about dante. Moncrieff dairy screen have they had some lifts in the draft shore sank. Golsen never saw the field Mike adams was a bomb in my opinion but ultimately this team. We're using baseball analogy here. This team is had more home runs than they've had swing and misses and so because of that and until they give me an actual reason to think. I can't trust these guys. I'm going to trust them. I'm gonna trust they're gonna make the good decisions they're gonna know the depth. They're gonna know what they have. You know why they see it every day. Sure we watched the games. We might watch the film. We may look at the roster. We may do our own film breakdowns. But ultimately they're the ones that are with these players every single day to finish this up. Just remember the steelers they valued mike. Hilton is much as everyone thinks they should have. They would have kept him. They could have kept in. Mike killed and didn't sign some huge deal. He wasn't also signed right away. He was on the market for a while. In the meantime the steelers signed camp sutton. Why that's who they wanted to sign. Don't think they didn't know that eventually steven nelson was probably going to be cut as well. Don't think these people are idiots. Don't assume the worst all the time. Sometimes in this is in life in general. Sometimes you have to trust in. That's difficult. it's difficult for a lot of people but that's what we have to do. All right folks. Thank you for spending some time with me on this friday. I hope you have a great weekend plan. I know i do get on the golf course. I'll let you know how that goes on monday. Otherwise you know what to do behind the curtain dot com should be your one stop shop for all things pittsburgh steelers wherever you get your podcasters steelers or behind the curtain subscribe. Follow do whatever you have to do so you do not miss a thing as we always finish it out be safe be kind in god. Bless have a great weekend a feedback. You're on monday. Just you shannon of bernard burner the morning.

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Ben Fennell

Ross Tucker Football Podcast

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Ben Fennell

"Do agree on is but it's not just any ross tucker football podcast is they finished strong friday presented by kids dot com the die hards amongst you were talking about either they're talking about a england usa women's soccer game tim from england was chime in on it a sean is saying what did they call the walled appeasers something down in australia it's unbelievable i get my international culture from tuck heads dot com absolutely love it almost as much as i love giving out winners each each and every friday we want winners were what people wanna win ride you have that yet so you know what he did pull it but it's on my home computer and i'm sorry ross i'm not at home right now traffic that's right you i know you're traveling but i did not know how that worked the magic of brian's audio so okay anyway here the winners tim russell via facebook's he loved the college draft on tuesday day where's mike renner from pro football focus he loved it on facebook facebook dot com slash ross 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time and you did so i'll send you whatever you want just let me know ross at ross tucker dot com the two ways you win each week you guys know the deal you scratch are backs we will scratch your is very excited by the way about today's big show i love topics like this and i love talking with this guy he was on i guess last last month he was on the college draft but he's got truly unique insight so i wanna make sure they get him on the ross tucker football podcast as well sort of talk about the transition from college football to be nfl fermi scheme perspective it's big showtime show well those of you that listen to the college draft podcasts you had a chance to hear him a couple times back back in early june 'cause we get a chance to talk to him about all of his gigs he tried to take my mental as the guy with the most gigs in sports media he's ben fennel he works pretty athletic wisconsin it's in drawing up packers stuff he does nfl draft up with daniel jeremiah for nfl network in you off season he does eagles game plan an e s p n college football during the season and check him out on twitter at ben fennel underscore nfl to an end to wells he is awesome man i i guess for the people that don't listen the college draft hey they're missing sing out but be will do a little bit of a of a brief her background for people that are hearing you for the first time you're on the ross tucker football podcast how did you get all these gigs yeah it's crazy to reflect back on i'm as i'm seeing this very wordy business card of mind but a yeah went to school at drexel university here in philadelphia concrete campus with no football team so it's kind of interesting that i found my way into football but studying for management kind of opened opened up the world of internship so got some internships nfl films and was hired a on the show playbook for six seasons in slowly transitioned about four five years ago to a some new ventures in my life so i joined our buddy fran duffy at philadelphia eagles helping him out with eagles game plan eagle eye in the sky also met some people in the production world work my nfl films so i helped over the years in college football where i go out to a game each weekend and i serve as e a production analysts and they replay producer surfer greg mcelroy dave passion tom logan bill also do some film breakdown see athletic a kind of going my allegiance to the packers growing up my mom grown up in green bay in having known all those people nfl films the second you off season hits go over helped him out with senior bowl combine draft coverage all those off season events right help out a previously mike map but now daniel jeremiah with all the research and videotapes and i enjoy a two months off in the summer or working on my tour garden it's fun all these jobs kind of tying together and it keeps the year fresh and a lot of variety in a lot of flexibility with my schedule but you know it's a lot of football but life could be worse right run on exactly down in the coal mines around me assembly line here and they were kind of living the dream ross we absolutely living the dream i love i love the ben central package i love everything you've got going and everything tied in together it's awesome for people that want a little bit more in depth for exactly what all ben's jobs entail highly encourage you to listen to the june six edition of the college draft podcasts could we really nailed down what exactly be benda's for daniel jeremiah what exactly benda's on the college football broadcasts and why his role is so vitally important i can't speak to it from the color commentator it is a difference maker there's no doubt in my mind so if you wanna hear more about those specific jobs i bet a lot of you didn't even know existed go back and check out that episode college draft podcast back on june six it was awesome so i wanna bring you on today ben just to talk about some of these misconceptions some of the myths that are out there right now as it relates to the sport of football and i guess you know the first to kind of tied together 'em and that is you know all of the talk in discussion all of the time about a team being a three four front versus a four three fron i think it's a bit of a misnomer just because i don't think what they're asking the players to do is is different a lot of times as you know what people perceive it to be based on how three four four three used to be more of a difference a but it's funny 'cause i brought it up with new we were talking off the air and you think it's not as big of a deal or not that big of a deal for a totally different rooms yeah i just feel like it's obviously you know this sub package world now to seventy seventy five percent sub package league which means you're playing that nickel or dime packaged so you're not playing you're true odd front rules or three front three four rules up front so that whole point of kind of based packaged defense is kind of new to begin russ yeah you know it's funny because i think when i played ben i think people in those two thousand one two thousand eight i think the teams that had three for personnel i'm trying to think i think anybody with three for personnel they were to gabbing right i mean it was the steelers it was the patriots kind of think of it as some of the best teams in the league a world in which they were two reasons yeah yeah and you know what they 'em you look back on it now boy they had some really good players i mean you know like i think in the new england right you had mike variable and willie mcguinness as you're outside linebacker setting the edge are you kidding me like a lot of those teams even pittsburgh in the nineties and as you transition to a baltimore in the two thousands in kind of having those interchangeable what we now call hybrid players at outside linebacker defensive end in a lot of that that allows them to work into the blitz pressure packaging and a third down a lot of those zone pressure packages that obviously decal blow install to pittsburgh and early nineties there so i think the three four allows a little bit more versatility for those hybrid players at least in that era of the game yet but an end even the down guys i mean in new england it will tie worn richard seymour vince will fork i mean those guys were no joke inside backers of his tedy bruschi and then the other guy switched a decent amount but i mean in pittsburgh you had guys like joey porter you know gilding guys like that set knee edge you d lineman yet key so aaron smith a you know casey hampton i mean you know those guys were to happen but there were there were no joke i guess i bring this up because there's a lot of teams carolina and tampa and all these teams better switching to the three for this off season from the four three but i don't i and we'll see how it plays out i think you're seeing more and more teams switched it three for personnel but it's kind of like the way philips movement three four and one gap three four still for three fronts you know unders in evens as opposed to you know three four as where you're just asking these guys to to to gap and be responsible for the gap on either side of your offense of lyman instead it's three four personnels the three down linemen for stand up guys but they're still just controlling one gap yeah for the most part and that's great to bring up wade phillips because dom capers ran a similar scheme in green bay in the average fan really has no concept i implore anyone the type in for three under into google and you're gonna see five members of the defensive line on the line of scrimmage it's an odd front with a two gabbing player as a four three defense with a two gasping nose tackle so there's a lot of kind of different hybrids schemes within three four one four three's it all depends are you single capping hurry to get being in a lot of guys can have different responsibilities on the same play like you had mentioned that for three under that wade phillips plays where almost everybody on the line is single gasping but you do have a two gasping nose tackle so there's different variations and just because you see five members he's on the line of scrimmage doesn't necessarily mean you're next three for a front yeah and i think that's something that people need to know your point about base versus sub you know greg cosell has mentioned that before for as well and that's a huge huge thing but i think smart teams are realizing more and more you know they should really call differently because you're stoppage airbase me like you're sub defense is really you're you're you're base you're you're you know when you hear pace it's like well that's the foundation not really i mean you're sub should be you're foundation and you're base is almost substituted defense at this point just based on me percentages that you put out there you're the one that stands out to me and i talk about this the mouth and is the whole difference between right tackle unless tackle you know back in the day almost all elite elite rushers came off the back side of the right hander quarterbacks and so you really wanna do most gifted guy a with the best feet to play left tackle to be able to pass pass protect against lawrence taylor and derrick thomas and those guys nowadays i mean you look at it and i'd have to go down into a breakdown ben and maybe you've done it i'm not convinced that more of the the top pass rushers shire's don't rushmore austin from the right side you know the von miller joey bosa you know from from over the right tackle till mac spend a lotta time over there now some guys move jj watt is almost always over there i'm not convinced that you're not you know it's not more important to have a right tackle that could pass the existing is too i feel like ben in if you feel differently let me know i feel like those guys that are on rushing over the right side even when they don't get their to the point where they get a hit on the quarterback they just have a chance to have more of a presence being the site line an an affect the quarterback in some way whereas if they're coming from the blindside unless they get really close it's almost like the quarterback doesn't know where he doesn't know whereas if it's a nice russia from watt or you know a nice rush from von miller he's still kind of disrupting the quarterback even if it doesn't end up being something that qualifies as a natural statistic yeah and that's kinda stole my point there they only know i i had under this portion of our conversation down was tony romo enter certain quarterbacks reese scheming you scale based on how they're affecting uncertain pressures and tony romo is the guy you want it to send pressure in get pressure on his front side because his highs will drop in certain quarterbacks that are more affected when you get into that state line in when you have you know rushers going against the right tackle for right handed quarterback you're right in the state line in in college almost say visual disruption for quarterbacks backs but i think the nfl has kind of come full circle with this and that elite position you should be left tackle will say right defensive end over that left tackle but if the left tackles the pre mir pass protector well i know i just put lawrence taylor on the other side now i think we've seen the kind of full circle groom of the nfl and there's some quality right tackles in this league and i think they may be just as good as some of those left side companions and we even need adjusters good protectors on the right side as the left side in two thousand nineteen nfl i think it's pretty even at this point yeah and so i i always say i don't mean disrespect to people say this but when you hear someone say yeah he's more of a right tackle you're not really a left tackle i i just think is that person really paying attention to me why they're not gonna face pro bowlers on that that like like they really paying attention not only that this is changed a little bit bad but we used to slide the protection of the left more often so that left tackle would have inside the right tackle that had more one on one so even taking place at the right guard at right tackle have more war on one opportunities in the course of the game because of that slide to the left tackle that slide the pre mir rusher so you kind of leave that right guard and right tack on islands a lotta times thousand percent i remember you talking matt millen about seven eight years ago and who you fell is the most valuable player on the line and you made a case for the right guard because of all the isolation block you have to take care of well and i've said a million times i i started at least five games at all three interior spots and i could play center and left guard for you for whole season and be fine a you know you'd probably want somebody better but i wouldn't lose the game for you is centered in that very many one oh one pass blocking assignments left guard not as many but i i i did and i would get exposed at right guard 'cause there's a lot of one on one for me it was against brian young in little roy glover and and guys like that you know nowadays it's obviously aaron donald and then fletcher cox fox and that that would not have gone well for me i would not so i agree speaking of blocking owning it in the two more things were you quickly ben 'em tight ends an and their ability to block 'cause i i think there are some fact and fiction in your mind when it comes the tight ends ability the book and i think this last draft class really kinda highlighted some that emphasis with these two guys from iowa you know you have the speeds third down the field threatened no a fan who is morally take the top off the defense pass receiving threat in india tj hopkinson who is that inline why tight end that traditional inline titanic a block in the run game on early downs so so it's a very schemes specific trade so if yuri base personnel team like hey rams are likely titans were last year metal floor is not bringing a green bay where you wanna run the same plays at rescues me different plays out of the same look you have to have two way players and you have to have players to be able to disguise you're intense you have to have tight end that are able to survive in the run game in that guy obviously excel in the past game but with those players editor of those two way players a lot of those aspects in the past game you're scheme doping off play action on over out and little slippery out and misdirection concepts a off of the run game that i don't really need you to be a speedster down the field read or run a four four four five because we can scheme you open so i think it's very much scheme dependent on the tree the tight end in what you're asking them to do because if you're a tight end that can't block that's okay to weaken put you in advantageous situation give you good angles we won't run at you a whole bunch or we could just treat you like an oversized tight or excuse me an oversize receiver and play in the slot like is zach ertz tyler reifer there's also a trade for that so i think the conversation about the tight end position is every revolving in it's very much scheme depending on where you're gonna land in the nfl what about what about running backs in in pass protection 'cause that's another thing that you seemingly only really hear people talk about a year during during the predraft process still talk about that and then you kind of forget about that at times yeah this one i go back and forth to us and i argue a whole lot with i think aspect of running back pass protection is one of the more overrated aspects of the position in and a lot of people i hear scouts and you know twitter film analysts say well if he can't pass protect he can't play in that isn't necessarily true and i think the whole position of scat back which is more of these past receiving release running back like la shawn mccoy you're even a levy on bell who isn't kept in the past protect you wanna take take action as often make somebody cover you when you're blitzing in inserting into the pockets of all fence you're subtracting from coverage a aspect so you wanna force a defense the cover these running backs not just keep them in be passed protectors and then check released to the flat you wanna threaten the defense with their ability to be scat back in the threatened the defense with being eight out runner in a pass catcher out of the backfield so if you are a great pass protector i don't think that's the end all be all fear ability to stay on the field on third down i think that's a really interesting point then but i haven't heard anybody say and it's funny because as a former oh lyman you know i take pass protection very seriously and i couldn't stand running backs that not only were not good at it but more importantly didn't block the right guy and you know we give up a sack and you look in the paper the next day you'll line gave up four sacks it's like oh really because it was joe blow running back the twice missed the blitz 'em so i i am one of those guys i think that says a lot they if they can't pass up but you're right i mean if were so enamored with these guys for their their their skills out of the backfield you know having do that most i i know you don't wanna telegraph but every once in a while maybe you have a man in the cnn and i'm not saying pass protection nine porn obviously it's very important especially on third down situations it's more avai a massage into the conversation of putting these guys in position to be successful and if they are dynamic athlete weaken put them in a position to be successful ben this is awesome this is exactly what i was hoping for i can't highly recommend enough people checking you out on twitter and going back to the back the back college draft podcasts that we had back 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bad i mean for possible endorsements or even for the cowboys extending in which i'm sure they will just makes him look bad but i didn't think he deserved or need to be suspended so i think nfl got this one exactly right other nfl news not good a former giants quarterback jared lorenzen passed away the age of thirty eight really really sad you know i'd seen in east sixty recently recently that german shepherd done in which she shared was really trying to lose weight and get healthy for his daughter if you're a member he is one of the most truly unique athletes we've ever seen i mean he played quarterback a kentucky at a really high level at like three hundred pounds i mean it was unbelievable his feet his agility really at that way was really incredible i mean there's just no way around it ended up playing in the nfl for several years won a super bowl with the giants was utilized backup they get along very well you know he's kind of a just a good old boy from kentucky loved playing 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and they're seven and almost six they're closer age than we are and you just you just realize like in an instant how quickly livestock and change in twenty two years old you're trying to be a pro football player and i haven't seen very many details details of the incident but just it's heartbreaking it really is for him and his family in ultimately very very life changing but at least he didn't lose his life 'em which obviously would have been even worse so yeah not not a lot of good news since wednesday bri that's for sure let's get you in email never wanted to ask an nfl player in question will here's your chance it's time to ask siri email address is ross at ross tucker dot com and the deal is you take advantage of any of the sponsors on the home page or the sponsors tab at ross tucker dot com or if you just do anything else that we believe helps the show so if you rate and review the show on apple podcasts if you make an amazon purchase after clicking on one affiliate links heck 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yeah so i am a my heritage is a fifty percent german in twentyfive percent irish twentyfive percent english now i'm sure i'm more mixed then that but that's where my great grandparents 'em came from so i'm fifty percent german my my mother's maiden name is bachmann in my grandfather my my great grandfather on my mom's side he left germany when he's out of my grandfather's so story there's thirteen fourteen and a he had like ten younger siblings and his dad said all right you've been a good boy but it's time to go right you're mother never asked for money in boom that was that he hopped on a ship and sat around the world for years and then got off in texas somewhere and you heard there were jobs up in pennsylvania you know whether it is or region or the steel mills or whatever and came up the pennsylvania but my wife and most people better from where she's from are a hundred percent german in fact my wife is it's pennsylvania dutch country they called p h dutch i gotta be honest i gotta look this up i dunno oh they call it p h dutch even though they're not dutch they're not from the netherlands it because like p h and somehow peto each the you know the the german folks a pennsylvania ph deutsche became pennsylvania dutch and so that's very very common around here especially where she's from so yeah her her grandparents were oma in opa and in fact her dad is now open to my daughters and obama and oma his mom were both here her at her house yesterday we celebrate my younger daughter helen's birthday on the fourth of july so 'em i don't know i gotta be honest you in terms of specific traditions i'm not sure which one i asked my wife i'm not sure which ones are german and which ones aren't i will say german daddy sodas no not really not really a but german food absolutely it's like all german food 'em it's interesting someone called me out on this on social media recently i over his twitter instagram at ross tucker nfl for calling stuffing filling but it's different it's 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Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Taking a look at the Steelers worth at each defensive position in the North?

Behind the Steel Curtain

37:08 min | 3 months ago

Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Taking a look at the Steelers worth at each defensive position in the North?

"Support for this episode comes from t mobile experienced the homerun derby like never before with the first of its kind. Mlb ar app brought to you. By t mobile the leader and five g t mobile and mlb partnered up to create an all new augmented reality experienced the brings advanced stats three d. ball tracking and more right into your living room. Download the mlb a our app for your apple or android devices today. Fastest according to open signal awards based on average speeds in usa five g experience report april twenty twenty one see five g device coverage and access details at t mobile dot com. Mlb trademarks used with permission. Welcome back my friends. It is the hangover. It's monday night if you're live if not. It doesn't matter what time it is as long as you're checking us out. We appreciate greatly. Thank you for everybody in the live chat. Thank you to tony in shannon check out of. Let's get going guys welcome back. We've established. I let you guys pick bengals number four ravens number three row number two steelers number one as far as defense and that's just that's just ranking the defenses so that is a lot of fun there so we're going to go ahead and try this. We're going to go ahead and do the defensive line and look if they do a four three. that's fine. We're just going to go ahead and have your typical defensive ends. You know i know. Sometimes you look at cam heyward in. He's officially defensive. Tackle or somewhere going to and was the defensive. And we're going to do it. We're going to basically do a four three. Excuse me three or four here but you can throw somebody else in that spot as if they play them at team. We don't have to be really rigid with this. So let's go ahead and start with the defensive line. And i'm not really guys. Are you concerned whether it's left side or right side. Are we going to be that rigid here. That affects all right. I'm that smart this kind of stuff. So it's all good all right so let's look at the defensive ends here. We need to defensive ends. We're just gonna starters and then we need a guy in the middle so let's go ahead. I will give you guys both an opportunity to throw out to defensive ends here on the on the four teams. So i'm going to go ahead. And i will throw out some names here. We've got on defense for the browns. We've got myles garrett. We've got davey and clowney. They're running a four three. So those are going to be your defensive ends in this scheme the baltimore ravens derek wolfe and colitis campbell. Of course you know the steelers steph onto it cam heyward and the base. Four three for the bengals. We're gonna go with sam hunt and trey hendrickson. Let's go ahead. Let's take two defensive ends there. Well i think it's a mild garrett's pretty pretty An obvious choice. I'm gonna go with cam to. I think he's he's he's just been consistently good player all throughout his career he had a nice round of sacks For a three year period last week dropped off event. But i don't think he's he said dominant player. So i'm gonna go with cameron Myles garrett all right mr white. I'm going to leave hayward at tackle sets i'll have to go with myles garrett and stefan onto it I'll take two and over campbell Because just they age difference to its younger and and campbell still an excellent player. But getting a little closer to the end. so i'd have to go with garrett and two our our rights so in this situation ivy go with garrett as well. it's kind of a toss up between three players. If i'm going to be completely honest with you. I was thinking onto it as well. But it's hard for me to take him over cam. Heyward i'm still going to do it. I'm going with steph onto it. i'm not going to put cam heyward in the middle because in the four three. I'm considering him defensive. And that's just the way that. I was going to go ahead and do it here. So i'm not considering him for that shannon. You can do that. You can do whatever you want. I do want to throw in one more guy that i greatly considered trey hendrickson. If he can do for the bengals what he did. Last year the saints. He's going to be a force to be reckoned with as well so of course he would make my second team here. But i'm gonna go with garrett in to it so i'll go ahead and mark that down tony any other thoughts. I'll let you do a rebuttal. Since she went. I well i was gonna. I was gonna mention hendrickson but i just. I just felt weird because he didn't play in division last year. Just felt weird making him the putting on my all star team. But you're right. I mean if he has any kind of you're approaching what he did. Last year with the saints which was amazing then bengals their eros pointing firmly in the right direction to quote. mike tomlin. So yeah i. I i like what you said there. About hundred jeff unseen. No way to hendrickson he. I mean he had fifteen plus was fifteen and a half year last year. He had a very good year. I don't know look is he falls gold he did he have just one good year. I just don't think that That he stinks. But i i do. I definitely respect. What you're saying. I do like that Stacy lyn said wolfe derek. Woolsey good player and if it is full school what made a full school. What what made him have such a productive year out of if it's a fluke. What made a flu. yeah. I have anybody that. Here's a question andrew asking if you wanna if we can use garrett as an outside linebacker this is where it gets me. Do do whatever you want i. He's listed as a defense of an. And i know he wants to be listed as a defensive end because it was pay scale so did bud debris bud dupree wanted to be listed there too and he made a big stink about it. Yes sean says. And i respect sean gray respect all of you garrett will be welby on three four. It's i get it but that's just some stuff that we've got a. We're not really playing with four three three four so put them wherever you want on the pro bowl team on a pro bowl roster on an all pro team myles. Garrett is listed as a defensive anti believe. So if i'm not mistaken is that correct. What's his point listed playing weight Any like to eighty. It's a it's either. It's somewhere between two thirty and four hundred I don't know shannon. He'd be a huge outside linebacker but he would be huge outside lumber. Let's be unfair. He was he was passed in that position. Two seventy wasn't he point. Yeah this is baird's bigger than him. This is just really. I mean this is just a fun exercise. So you know it's you know. Do whatever you want with with your your team. If you're making your own team like andrew wilbert posted his team. Fill free to do that. I that's everybody has a voice here and one thing that one thing that i'm not gonna do is i'm not going to make fun of any of your picks i'm going to respect your picks to if you think hendrickson thanks. Hey i'll see doesn't but i'm not going to get into a shouting match with the out. Share a beverage within and will debate it and then we'll high five and go pick up chicks two. Am in the nineties. I'm not picking up chicks now but you know what i'm talking about. I'm sorry ladies so okay. I don't know. I'm just just scratching editing power. I don't know. I thought chicks was bad enough but the dribble we have somebody in here called steeler chick. So it's okay. I'll allow it and then beyond has a song hold all the single ladies single ladies come on ladies. Yeah i just wanna get mad at me. Now he's mad so felicia pack up here. My okay oh gosh all right. So let's look at linebackers. Put them wherever you want. Let's go ahead look it outside. Land linebackers okay. Look look stacy lens back me up stacy lyn saying oh that's felix she's saying okay she's marylanders so she's she's got my back steeler check. I don't know where she's from scaler. Chicks got my back because she's got chicken the name it's okay. See there you go there. They're steeler chick forty. Six stacy lyn their members of hashtag. Bad company terry ago. So they've got my back. Jeff dunn says steelers. good steelers. girls are good. They remember they had the up. You know. I love me some jerry jerry. One of my favorites and this is the greatest quote frank sinatra. Call them dame's with the with the chairman of the board right. Yeah so. I'm not gonna go that far. Gosh a boy. How would frank sinatra do in Two thousand and twenty one not too. Well i don't think he would do way way being cellblock four away and one of one of my favorite all time people one of my closest friends in this world mike scott. He's not offended. Ed and he doesn't offend easy. So that's thank so there you go so let's go ahead. Let's look at linebackers here. But let's let's get rid of this whole three four four three edge debate and let's just say unanimous. Is anybody going to really not put. Tj watt on that list. Oh no that's what you have to. He's definitely the best linebacker in the entire division outside or inside probably so. Yeah it's a tj. What i and the honest with you and and to enter andrew's question. I'm not doing a fantasy draft. I'm looking at my notes. I would never do a fantasy draft against my will or whatever so this is against my will but anyway i can't think of another linebacker. It's really if it was if if the previous store around it'd be easy. I'm looking at all these names. And i can't think of anybody else. Have you guys can help me out. Who would be another another all-star outside linebacker in the afc north. So we're looking at logan wilson and akim davis gaither the cincinnati. Bengals for the ravens. That's where you you might get some Get something there with a guy. Like thai bowser were cornell mcphee and then in cleveland. You've got sam taki taki and sioni taki taki and also jacob phillips. It looks like there as well so you know. That's where that's where the whole debate with a four three three four. If we were doing that that would change things. But for this drill. I would probably I'd probably look look to baltimore for that. But that's up to you fellas. Wow i'll take it a step farther. tj what is the best linebacker period in nfl And also in division. Alex smith has the potential to be the second best outside linebacker in the division. Well i love it. That's a bold statement. Tony you doing that too. I am now if shannon says. I'm on i'm on board stuff the i love it but now i you guys you guys get caught up. No no problem. I'm gonna go ahead and say titus browser. But i do like i do like the alex highsmith call and george testing so i hope so. I hope you're right. I think that's great. But man. I am tired powder. I think is taking a step up to so i'm gonna go his way on that one but you guys you guys. It's two to one so we'll have to keep an eye on that this year. Yeah is how does has developed versus bowser. You know what. I i really think highsmith is gonna have. He's gonna come alive will it be. Here's a question though. Guys will be at the expense of somebody like t. J. watt will t. J. watt have eleven sacks in and drop down for he dropped out of nine sacks and a lot of action going the other way to heisman if he gets more double teams than yeah that could easily have and And you know to. It's going to get his. And so we're hayward an So yeah that could have it. He can have a even better year but his statistics don't show it. Highsmith is also going to benefit from steph onto on that same side to right. I think everybody's my gosh everybody's talking about high smith. And i love it and i remember on draft night. Didn't know him too. Well and shannon white knew who. He was on draft night. So they dave. Scofield talks about that all the time and he knew who he was but i jumped on board right away when one i saw dabo sweeney talk about him the next day and i also i also saw just highlights those fourteen sacks that guy goes after the quarterback and he's pretty good Mike scott says the more highsmith dominates the more benefits. T. j. watt as well. Yeah it really does. So i tell you what i i hated breaking up the bud dupree. T. j. watt duo. But you had to be business had to happen but highsmith has got a lot of upside in love the sky. Let's go to the middle linebackers. The inside linebackers. It could be a middle guy. If it's a four three or it could be an insider germain. Pratt is the guy that our lads is putting out for the cincinnati bengals or Our lads dot com. The cleveland browns. I think i think for cleveland. This is the one position that's keeping them from being a completely dominant defense. So we're going to go here with anthony walker for the baltimore ravens. We've got patrick. Queen and maleek harrison and then for the steelers. Of course we've got v. Chievements vince williams. And we've got social media. Bandit devin bush junior so guys take it over. I can't remember who started last time. I think it was tony. So let's go now shannon. So let's go tony. I think. I think patrick queens. They're a great young claire. I think he's gonna be really good. They think he's perfect. Fit for the ravens. The kind of player that they that they loved drafts from when when they got him i was pretty wasn't angry but i was disappointed de bush's He's such a talented young player as as well and and if he wouldn't have several injury last year he probably would've taken that sophomore lead that you always hope these guys can make them their first second year. He's got he's got some issues he has to deal with obviously with with a in pass coverage titans and everything but i think overall these are the two best young inside linebackers division. Alright so let's go ahead and take a look at you shannon. He's tony saying bhushan. Queen there really anywhere else to go now like a coin. A lot. His athleticism What's his game and experience. Inches over this athleticism. He was pretty good last year. I think he's going to be a pain. And the steelers for a while. And as long as bush comes back one hundred percent from that knee injury they're both young up and coming stars and the two best in the conference. The division. So here we go. We've got we've got one of my favorite presidents. i'm not gonna say which one oh herb. I'll say that one of my favorite rock bands pushing queen. So my gosh we're going with a lotta steelers here but pratt. Pratt is really good young player. But i don't know if he He he's like Honorable mention so guys. I made a mistake. I we'd never put anybody in at nose tackle or defensive tackle so let's go ahead and look at nose tackle for that matter. Of course with the steelers we have we. We would be able to go with tyson. We're looking at dj reader. And larry cogan juba. I always mispronounced ogan. Jobe know cleveland. We're going to go ahead. And look at jordan elliott and andrew billings the guy everybody one of the first round in two thousand sixteen bagels took him in the fourth. What did we know branded williams for at the baltimore ravens as well. So i'll let you guys go ahead. Let's backtrack and we'll go ahead and take one of those guys. What do you think shannon europe. Well i thought we was doing the four three. Like i said i wanted to put hayward on the inside. But if we was on that i would take hayward and random williams Because they're both great against the run incredibly strong and then collapsed the pocket against the pass. Okay i'll grant that. I'll grant that but let's do a nose tackle to add have to go williams 'cause like i said he's He's the prototypical you just. Don't move that guy. And he's more of a casey hampton. Vince wolfert throwback and not as much. I decided i'd have to go with the williams. That's absolutely who. I'm going with here to tony. Unanimous throw wild card in there. Or or or a curveball. I should say and the all star game weekend. I'll sigler jobe. He bengals he was with the browns for a while. Now the bengals right. I mean i mean this is the first year he spent the last few years with the browns. So yeah i mean. He's got like a younger player. So why not i love. I think that's great. I have no problem with that whatsoever. I always thought jobe has been really tough. And that's a good pick. I mean almost makes me want to go away from brennan williams. But i i wanna i wanna nose tackle in there so i'm going williams but tony i'm working that down as yours. That's pretty darn good. Let's go defensive backs here we go. Let's go corners the cincinnati bengals and. I'm not i'm not going. I'm not going to go ahead and go with a A nickelback but if you wanna go ahead say mike houghton nickelback you can if you want to up with nikhil bax. I'm not researching corners for the the bengals trae wayne's and should oboe whizzy. I guess it's time for a break from me. As it's called shannon champion gets the maret. Okay let's look. I'm just joking. I could care less cleveland. Browns denzel ward and they're listing the rookie. Greg newsom out of northwestern number one. Pick the baltimore ravens. Marcus peters and moreland humphrey and the steelers were going to go with. Of course mr haden. Joe haden and on the other side. We're taking a look at. I guess it's see. Our lads is listed justin lane. And i'm not quite agree with that. It could be peer. It could be cam sutton. But they're listening listing. Camp sutton is a nickelback. You go ahead and put them anywhere you want. You guys know the steelers. Better than our lads. I will tell you that right now. but go ahead shannon. I believe you're. I thought it was tony this time. Okay tony. it's it's your right. This one's easy. I it's gotta be martin humphrey and not marcus. Peters two studs. they're just just ask jude. You about humphry. And of course marcus peters. Just if he wasn't such a problematic person every now and then. I mean you'd probably have so much. I mean more respect around the league. But he's the town's obvious he's the first class wang peters the name for him but but i he's good good and they're the two best i mean he might hear from guys like greedy williams when auto when all said and done in. I hope that some how some way justin lane and james beard put themselves in the mix before That that'd be so much better for the steelers but right now it's gotta be humphry and peter's okay steeler nation for when to sing ramsey's greater than humphrey ramsey's i guess You've mentioned humphry is one of the best in the nfl. Sure but for this exercise we're looking at the north of shannon go ahead. Are you going double purple here. No humphries is my fake is. He's the best in the division. And then i would go ward And i i love hayden. He's the consummate professional I've just been so faithful from the moment he comes. We needed a cornerback. So bad and he. He's so he's everything you wanna store corner. But he's just got a little bit eight joining but he's still playing at a high level but as far as the two best I'll take humphries award because word is the head case the pages can be. That's that's not a bad call there. I'm probably i sided with you before shannon cash. It is hard for me to go against tony on this one though. I i really wanna go award. But peter's in humphrey. I think there they've got to lock down there and that's that just makes them dangerous. I wanted so bad to say hayden. I wanted to say it. I could because it doesn't matter but now i've got to be objective here and let's go ahead with those two guys. Let's i'm going with the ravens quarter corners but i'm not discounting yours in That's your pick so we're cool safeties. Let's let's do it this way. We're gonna break these down in new strong safety and free safety. Let's go ahead with strong safety. First for the bengals. We're gonna go vaughn bell i think Ginger remembers him from last year. Then let's go to cleveland. John johnson the third a huge free agent addition for them as we go. Jj three for baltimore. Let's go ahead and pull up the ravens here. chuck clark. My gosh things are some players. Strong safety is. We're not kidding with strong safety. Are we guys. And let's go ahead and look at We're looking strong safety. Terrell edmonds for the steelers. Go ahead. gentlemen. I'll let you start and i tell you what i am going to let you guys go ahead and take this as i take a quick break in. I be right back in. If you wanna go ahead and take strong safety. We'll be right back. Go take european. I'm a big fan of Edmonds is everybody nice and and his value to the team is is it. manse underrated for sure spade delivers up for a lot of mistakes. Especially when bush went out last year his fade really helped the defense stay. You know near the top. But i probably have to say clark is the best in a starve citing the division agree with you there. I was hoping that we could mix and match. I think debates is such a good good player. Like you said before you had fifteen cents last year for the bengals. But it's hard to. It's hard to put him in front of the other guy that we're gonna talk button to pet but yeah with chuck clark in edmonds and i have to go check clark. I think he's better amu- agree. It ain't no way in slab but not better. Yeah so you went chuck clark. Who did you go with. We both which are clark both a. Wow i think i mean i cannot argue with that i was not going with terrell edmonds guys. I'm going against you hear one bells. Pretty good but cleveland's got it here with john johnson. The third i. I really think that he is going to really turn some heads here. So that's my vote. So i'll tell you the los angeles rams right. That's right. yeah he was really good. So let's look at free safety. You've mentioned yet debates third. We've got grant delpit. Who didn't really play last year for cleveland. We've got the. Sean elliott who. I'm not that familiar with and we've got some guy in pittsburgh named manta legis para down. We're basically saying jesse bay and make a fitzpatrick boom those two guys right. I think i think i think or mingka's he's the new troy as far as that safety that you know it's not the same position -sarily but he's that guy that you have to prepare for. You have to account for on every play. He should such a difference maker back there. He's got to be the the top guy. Though aren't mr the white. The i agree totally fitzpatrick and and bates They kind of play the position. A little different And they have strengths and weaknesses but This patrick is is the best free safety in my opinion it maybe just the how well he pairs with the stores deviates. But he's the best in the nfl. I'm not arguing with it. I cannot go against minka and as jeff dunn says come onto argument we have to. We've got to make an argument. Paired it down to two and i'm still going mak- you know not bad this. You see how good this division is. My gosh i. I'm gonna take this division on defense over almost anybody in the league as well and we're not going to go ahead and do that exercise this week that way but man it's really good. The steelers have a lot of competition here and they've got a lot of headaches here but when you throw in it's like mingka and hayden who's didn't make the list was that good. He didn't make the list but you throw him in there. You throw in the fact that you've got to outside linebackers in an inside linebacker that you're putting your considering putting on the list and you guys put all three of those four linebackers on the list. And when you consider the fact that you can make a case for both guys on the defensive line myles garrett kind of screwed that up a little bit but you can make a case for those but the four three three four that that changes everything to my. Gosh you've still got have a team of defensive for the pittsburgh steelers so even though they lost guys the big guy that they lost. They replaced him pretty well with alice highsmith and they knew that when they were drafting him there. They knew that they knew what they were doing when they brought him in. They thought they knew what they were doing. When they brought chase. Claypool lynn offense. They did not think that they were going to re-sign juju and they didn't think it was going to altogether like that. And they knew what they were doing when they brought in when they brought in not only nagae harris this year on offense when they brought in mr anthony mcfarland junior last year they were bringing in replacements for guys that they thought they were going to lose in free agency. They did a good job. Twenty twenty. they're doing a great job and twenty twenty one as well. This is a stack defense. I know i just brought up some offensive players but this is how the steelers think they're thinking a year ahead each time pretty good job fellas great job tonight. It was lot of. That was a lot of fun. It wasn't a great exercise may made me think which is something. I need to do from time to time. I i really appreciate it. A shooting the breeze with you guys in the live chat. Forget about some of the new guys that's come into the division so that that helps remind me. Hey pretty soon we're gonna be talking about preseason games that's going to be a lotta fun next week. You guys talk about anything you want. I might monitor so make sure you mentioned my name at least seventeen times because i'm that narcissistic But yeah okay at least seventeen you keep not just bad. You've gotta say brian. Anthony davis a few times You got to mention all my wife. Mrs bad you've got a mentioned bad data marham connor both bad data and bad. Mom showed up in the live chat yesterday. Connor and jelly. I'll give you the names of all the dogs. All four dogs. Gosh i'm not take. I'm taking the week off so you all can take the week off for me. Don't have to mention me at all. have fun enjoy. 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Hour 2: Travis Kelce, Deion Sanders, Hines Ward

The Stephen A. Smith Show

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Hour 2: Travis Kelce, Deion Sanders, Hines Ward

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of e._s._p._n. news number to call is eight say e._s._p._n. it's edited seven to nine three seven seven six to stephen smith show is on the road and being presented by progressive insurance it's la from atlanta for coverage of the beginning that would be super bowl fifty three this sunday plus with the vivid seats app it's easy to find awesome seats to any game download the app and enter promo code champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order ladies and gentlemen as an aside i don't know if any y'all watch soap operas but you do know that my character's name is brick i'm i have a recurring role on the soap opera general hospital i'm on general hospital today you know so brick will be on general hospital today you know you'll have to find out whether or not they let me put a hit out on somebody's something like that that's what i'm spiring to do i must avila's expert for the mob and mobster sonny rent does he needs my services so i'm on i'm on general hospital today and tomorrow just so you know but anyway i got bigger stuff to get into i hope this brother is on the line i think it's official he's the best tight end and football i don't think that can be denied he's a bad somebody on fortunately he can't play defense which means he couldn't stop tom brady when they needed to which means that instead of the kansas city chiefs being here and super bowl fifty three he has to watch it like the rest of us but it don't take away from the great season he had i'm talking about my brother my man the one and only travis kelsey are you on the line sir stephen a. m. right here for you big dog as big as i can right now tell you that how you doing that i mean listen you had a great season this no question about that patrick mahomes or something special your something special but jolla not an the super bowl the new england patriots are how are you feeling about it as you had an opportunity now over the last ten days or so to reflect on the law to the patriots and a._f._c. championship getting minutes like it's like i still got the flu ever since we lost that thing but i've been sick to my stomach to see to be very aware going into the game of what they were going to do and not being able to capitalize on that first half it's still i i gotta figure it out so that next year we don't put ourselves in that situation to try and come back against what a dominant team that that they really are and how controlling the game they had the entire time so i mean it's just a you got to keep on moving be a man about it and and figure it out is interesting because obviously they held jaw scoreless in the first half do you credit victory more to that than you due to the inability to stop tom brady and a fourth quarter and overtime particularly in multiple third and ten situations you thought it was the first half doldrums that cost y'all victory more so than anything else out of doubt without a doubt i mean you can you can say the ford or you talk about the the refs and this and that man what you gotta do you gotta go out there and you gotta play four quarters of football and unfortunately our office did not do that our defense saved our tail in that first half i mean if it could have got real ugly and what they do they held him to only to score lead we were able to come out of the second half with a different mind name had some guys say some things in the locker room they're really got us going patrick mahomes being one of them insure enough how would how would that travis share share what did they say half time i wanna know you know me up you better man up you could see it in his face patrick mahomes rally that team to even have a chance to win that game and i love him for it he challenged everybody mentally and they talented their manhood instead right now we're getting we're getting our tails waxed right now and sure enough we came out second half what people don't understand is there has to be some sort of count ability for someone to say that you don't take it the wrong way i mean you got grown men in there and a guy that was twenty three years old telling everybody we're getting our manhood tested right now and for everyone to respond the way they did just shows type leader patrick mahomes really is we're talking to travis county is far as i'm concerned the best tight end in the national football over the last three seasons ladies and gentlemen he's had eleven hundred twenty five yards at twenty sixteen thousand thirty eight yards and twenty seventeen thirteen hundred and thirty six yards this season on one hundred and three receptions he's only missed too damn gays for crying out loud i'm talking to travis kelsey right here now the kansas city chiefs were stephen they on e._s._p._n. radio and e._s._p._n. news so as you reflect on this season obviously andy reid made a call and i'm certainly not asking you to comment about somebody's firemen because i know all y'all got love and respect for bob and if i think he needed to go because you can't have a defensive coordinator having a d offence that struggled as much as y'all did this year i think if you had grabbed rex ryan you would have been favorites to come out of the a._f._c. next year but you guys back notice your defense coordinator who's pretty damn good in his own right what is the expectation for the kansas city chiefs based on a year to jolliffe had what you know of new england what you know of the talent that you possess what's the expectation you know exactly where i'm going we're we're we're a super bowl we failed without a doubt there an down my mind there's any hesitation how i say it if we don't win the super bowl next year we have failed not only our team and at our job but we failed the community in kansas city because they give us a whole lot man you know i'm listening to you right now and i'm thinking about the a._f._c. and i kind of knew that the charges wouldn't get it done i just know it i just knew it travis told you i felt that way i just knew it new england obviously cannot be discounted but as we reflect on this new england team and look at this super bowl handicap it for me break it down how did you see the super bowl fifty three unfolding right now i see a very very motivated a new england patriots team i think the way their season ended last year they're kind of taken that underdog approach to where everyone might be doubting them a little bit and that's fueling a lot of guys that have done it before that is that one championships before i don't want to say to patriots just because i really don't know i'm sitting here and i played both teams and i see a great defense on both sides of the bossie a great offense on both sides of the ball and to be honest it's going it's going to take sixty minutes to figure this one out i truly believe that but when you look at new england and how y'all played against them an air sea championship and then again in the regular season when y'all lost to them like forty three to forty and foxborough you also lost a game to the los angeles rams it was the greatest football game i'd ever been a part of i was standing right there in the end zone at los angeles coliseum y'all lost at night fifty four to fifty one is one of the greatest not degrades experience i have had an n._f._l. game in my life you look at those two teams you played against them both how do you see this happening what's going to happen man it really it depends on what's i think the biggest marquee matchup that you're going to see that defensive line of the rams versus the how will the offensive line for the patriots or plan i mean the the rams got guys got great playmakers all over their defense but i think that front four it's it's like nothing else and if you look at last year's super bowl i mean that that was the biggest match of could they get tom brady and that eagles defensive line was able to get to him i think that was eventually the outcome of the game travis kelsey talked to us about a one of the reasons you join me the day you'll you wanna bring attention america's opioid epidemic i want you to talk about that for second please man i'm teaming up with emerging bio solutions and what they do is they are the makers of a product that saves lives in this opioid epidemic this opioid overdose epidemic going on in america right now it touches my heart because the the leading state where i'm from cleveland ohio ohio is a leading state of opioid overdose deaths and it's something that i just want people to be aware of the medicine opioids the prescriptions that you're being provided with from doctors i think the lack of education the accidental deaths that are going on in america can be prevented by just a little bit more knowledge and education on what these medicine with this medicine and what these drugs do and on top of that emergent bio solutions have come up with a product that saves lives it helps people that are overdosing revive and then get oxygen to them so that they can live in i think it's a it's a product that if you are taking these measures like little safety valve to have in your first first aid kit and that's that's the that's the biggest part is makes you go to your physician and you talk to them about the education behind these meds so that you don't put yourself in a risky situation of overdosing man travis kelsey one of the best people that i've ever met in professional sports obviously the best tight end in football as far as i'm concerned and oh by the way a man who should continue as the applauded for his decision making please tell calas said hello always do thanks a lot take it easy all right the one and only travis kelsey right here was stephen a. e._s._p._n. radio e._s._p._n. news that's inside joke with me and him as girlfriend laud let's move on let's strect got distract line with us right now is the greatest cornerback in the history of the national football league he's a two time champion one what the dallas cowboys before that with the san francisco forty niners he was a star in the a._t. l. for the atlanta falcons obviously he's done a lot he'll be in a second he's not here yet but you know what i'm talking about the one and only prompt time the onset is when he gets the on the phone okay he's putting on the headset now he's putting on a headset now when he's there he'll let me know trust me that's what prompts does it's an it's a miracle because you've got understand this shows in the data prompt thomas so low he don't usually do daytime interviews he makes an exception for his boy yours truly so he's going to come on the show in just a minute so because you've got a thirty for thirty documentary coming out tonight e._s._p._n. nine p._m. make sure you check it out is being brought to us by mitt mobile as well his appearance is being brought to us by mint mobile so i'm looking forward to talking to prime tom are you there prime time and you know it look man lays around of applause please the man the myth the legend the two-time champion the hall of famer the greatest cornerback in the history but a national football league ma brother the one and only prompt what's up big people i hate doing radio in i'm not there with you because your energy just feeds me just takes me to 'nother level man i bench trust me listen man you got folks they have you know they say fever that your special we got in a separate area i like being with the people what my call but it is comfortable over here it is this well let me ask you this first of all this thirty for thirty documentary to doing the night's gonna be aired on e._s._p._n. what was the inspiration behind you telling this story and what is it that we're going to learn from prime time that we did all ready know well the inspiration was this thing has always bothered me it always ruffled feathers to understand how can you make me be the bad guy when my contract in baseball is over in july inex- x. it's october but you've made me be the villain in i'm trying to help you in just a whole thought process behind a play by play announcer that didn't get his facts straight care to get his facts straight and frustrated my momma and i it out on a feeling that my mother had then you know where we come from if mama come home and said she bothered and she flows to you gotta handle it yeah it's because she looking at you like look this really disturbs me maybe it's being talked about it and treat it and what have you and that just gets brothers riled up there's no question about that so basically what you're talking about in this thirty for thirty documentary it's about you playing baseball while playing football and people having a problem with it and challenging you on that and you dress you addressing the whole nuance of that particular situa- that's what this dirty learning is about because a tim coverage earns hosts made me to be the bag it i'm thinking how am i the banka in my contract for baseball is over in july then he went to say on that jean parker my attorney whose passed away now if be lovely thirty you had a handshake deal you know handshake hooves will have a handshake deal right how you gonna have a handshake deal in business had not been consummated in there was no business to consummate because in the playoffs stephen there you know everybody makes us any amount of money that's right so what kind of business deal did we had we're not just that dion prompt don't know handshake deals when xactly does not you that's not who you are you wanted to writing don't trust you don't trust anybody know stephen smith it just doesn't have exactly you understand so listen to this as you reflect on this and as you were telling the story did you ever find yourself wondering contemplating what life would have been like if you've never played football with elected to play gist baseball we're kind player would you have been oh yeah all the time all the time i mean winning almost signed a fulltime baseball deal back when that was the gang keys and something transpired with late george steinbrenner in negated the deal it took the deal off the table he got into some type of trouble i went on to play with the braves but no it was almost that way and i always thought what would have been good and should it but i felt like the right decision was made because football was my wife i will say this to you i never ever ever once contemplate the thought of you choosing baseball over football do you know why because primetime don't do minor leagues drew that's how i view did you ain't you ain't going to some small town in alabama no names i three hundred people i did in the love them at growth process i loved it man all been yankees manager books show author show walter i mean we had a wonderful team i loved it i mean a lot of guys who went on to be legends in the big leagues when we're on that team man i love now prompt prompt time you and i go back a long ways bro true we've done interviews we did interviews back in the day when i had my own television show quite frankly and you remember when you came on that set in new york city that lives through the audience and you started talking about raving about the atlanta falcons atlanta falcons and he's like i really did he's talking about how you love these i really did i really like crazy because i'm like you love to atlanta falcons more than he loved being with the forty niners jerry rice and those boys or with the play make and michael irvin and those boys in dallas we right here in the right now you still saying that yeah man something about the city steve when you get up to play and you could feel it when you walk into the streets you can feel it when you had a restaurant you could feel it something about atlanta you know what i chose i chose them those teams don't drive me you drive me i'm gonna play some baseball no draft me because i knew i wanted to go to atlanta with the fifth pick because when i was in college in came to all american function here i saw african american doctors lawyers political figures policemen rice journalists i had never seen such a thing in my life and it blew my mind and i knew i had ignorance to me at adolescence to me had a little on apologetic in me and i knew i needed the city that would understand in this city did that's why must i must confess to you when you talked about there was something different about atlanta my mind went to more dash deadly play i appreciate you bringing it back to bed as thank you thank you so very very much i appreciate you save media which into the one of the only pro- tyler right here with steven being radio is being new standards being brought to us by mobile his thirty for thirty documentary scheduled to air tonight not these tommy e._s._p._n. check it out the by the way prompt on did you know i'm going to be on general hospital brazzaville what happens you want to even ask you do they give oscars for general hospital because joke with eighteen is inevitable i'm not in active but i enjoy myself i enjoy myself but that's what you do your whole life is enjoyed what has not enjoyed yourself wins i've never seen you not enjoy yourself i do know how to have a good right you don't have fun you know how to maximize moments my brother and that's right and i'm here in atlanta don't think i ain't going to the next day they no question about that did i tell you right now stephen a smith show e._s._p._n. radio obviously the santa's prompt on let's talk about the super bowl for quick second primetime new england brady l._a. handicapped his game from grading break down either handicapped brady okay i will you know it because i'm an listen to handsomely pay when i will break it down okay okay jared gulf didn't have a great second half of the season no didn't have a great i have in a championship game okay very at adequate okay running game got them to this point right now that's what got in there and this man is getting ready to look across the field and see of goat and we even own a phone he's getting ready to look across the field and see somebody who is going to change up that defense to the point where it may baffle him a couple of times because he's going to see something he had seen i want to know can erin gome handled this kind of pressure kitty handle this gotta he my conclusion is they must rush for two hundred yards and they must pass for two hundred yards both of which has never been done up on the sean mcvay but this is going to have to be done for them to obtain victory two hundred in two hundred it's interesting that you say that because when i think about jared goff i think about a third year quarterback having to go against bill belgium that's what i think about see when i think about tom brady it don't matter who's going to concede been around too long he's seen it all and there's nothing way phillips to throw in his direction the talent is going to have to usurp what tom brady is going to throw at you but in the case of jared goff not only do you have the talented the new england patriots you have the mind of bill belichick and by the way brian florez who's an african american is about to be the head coach of the miami dolphins the combination of those two is what i think that it's going to be real tough jared goff to that you say what is so i can't wait to see how he handles this pressure but if they run the ball for two hundred yards he will be okay i will say this i know it wasn't montana he was with steve young yes when you talk about tom brady being the goat you did win the super bowl for san francisco montana left of course you can't go to dallas and even though troy aikman's not in that conversation we respect troy because he's a three top super lord he quarterback no question but when we talk about brady it's really at that point in time where it's safe to put him above joe montana with no hiccups is three guys of their inequity close my eyes and grab one joe montana dan marino tom brady jam marino never won the super bowl and we still put them in the same compensation in this res- two guys with non super bowl titles on their resume that shows you how great dan is it does dan marino was before his time yeah dan marino play right now could you imagine what it'd been like i don't even look at it that way him i'll look don shula at fault because you never got him a defense yeah chuck muncie he had clayton he had i mean he had he had you know mark super duper markley in as well and they gave ovens and net more that's right well you think i wouldn't play two sports on one day stephen a. you think i was going to leave my secondary unequipped would absentee pram against dan marina what kind of teammate am i when i'm sitting on a bench for nine innings hoping to pinch hit in the bottom of the night right those are top tonight yes top tonight yeah and you i'm gonna send my versus day no kim oh not going to do that man not emphasize team my deal is a man on t._v. calling me selfish i got you my case to me i can't wait i can't wait to see it tonight you know i will love you bro you bliss god bless you man absolutely we'll talk soon what it only prompt top the greatest cornerback in the history of the national football league without question hall of fame or two for champion also catch him on the n._f._l. network because prime definitely does his thing it at eight say e._s._p._n. it's edited seven to nine three seven seven six you are listening lobster this even these show e._s._p._n. radio e._s._p._n. news by the way what is it mr hines hines ward brought you behind hines ward former wide receiver for the pittsburgh steelers he will be on the show next so make sure to check it out don't touch that dial don't go anywhere you listen to steven he has been used by the way when you're hiring you don't wanna waste tom sorting through dozens of rela resumes do you want an efficient way to get to a shortlist of qualified 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more than that the flowers look it hey so you got to do so you got to eight say e._s._p._n. it at eight seven to nine three seven seven six super bowl champion wide receiver for the pittsburgh steelers hines ward are you there sir a managers stephen what to do what i do man you got all across the town i need to be face to face remember i help get you this gig loan how you repaving hey hey listen this messed up you probably gonna steal this guy hopefully loan for you you know that this is how recive is paying for do giving up on page i outside outsize what's going on i'm blessed i'm so blessed man super bowl fifty three it's going down here in atlanta my hometown good good food good people and of course you've got the great nightlife you know i would tell about please please listen man you came here you represent honda hyundai today about what you're doing with them man you know honda brought me and ed reed together that's big so we sat in a car together we did the sunday night promo for cillers and the ravens man so it was the first time we've seen each other since we left the grid are but i'm really here with honda to help promote the new shopper assurance program to help create make that car buying experience a little easier to deal with the sleep talking salesman when you walk into it but it also check out honda's youtube age to wash their super bowl commercial by jason bateman it's pretty funny the stephen you gotta do to man check it out it will be order check it out i definitely i gotta pay bills to i got to somehow someway i think you can afford them better than another day haase war you know we've talked a lot about this super bowl fifty three encounters between the patriots and the rams we've talked a lot about tom brady we talked a little bit about jerry gold we certainly talked about aaron donald talked about running backs and todd gurley and c. j. anderson we've even mentioned sony michelle what we haven't mentioned enough or the receivers and etto men for the new england patriots awards and brandin cooks a former patriot by the way who's with the lost angeles rams how do you see the receivers performing in this particular game man it's hard to go against autobahn man the guy has fly paper on his hands or something every time brady throws the ball he finds a way to come up and make plays especially in the super bowl he made some crazy catches when the patriots came back and defeated atlanta falcons so i just remember all the plays but brandin cooks raba would those guys may a great route runners they just have a nice report with jared goff man to combo right there i mean it's going to be a shootout man but anytime i don't know i put my money on braiding settlement those guys been there done that and they just find a way to get it done if you had to pinpoint specifically why the patriots are here in the super bowl this year what would it be coach bela check the way he holds everybody accountable even when they vulnerable stephen they still had a number two seat that's crazy even when the and this was a down year for the patriots i mean joel element is out of the first four games i mean gronk wasn't healthy all year and tom brady tom tom again continues to win with less on the field and any quarterback that ever met in history of the game this guy this fires away and gets done he makes everybody around him great and i just don't see the patriots losing two super bowls back to back let me get this straight you don't see tom brady fallen off a cliff now is that what you're trying to say no you don't see tom brady his skills having dissipated he's not what it used to be for the time thomas kicked in like some unnamed named people from i take that i won't met you don't know because he doesn't have the weapons around them so they have to offense change you know coz belcher i wouldn't be surprised if he puts only michelle and james why in the backfield and spread everybody out and go just throw it fifty times a game i wouldn't be surprised that the million pacers did that how can the rams win this game you gotta you gotta play aggressive you gotta play aggressive with the new england patriots can't sit there and try to play conservative run on first and second down and try to convert on third downs i come out of the gate and let them know and throw a bomb on the first play but i think the key though is eric darnell and sue getting pressure up the meet up the middle if you anyway disrupt tom brady is not the pash rush on the outside it's the pash rush on the inside to get him out of his spot if they can do if those two guys can be disruptive the l._a. rams have a chance to win hines ward former star receiver for the pittsburgh steelers former super bowl champion receiver for the pittsburgh steelers right here with us on the stephen smith show e._s._p._n. radio e._s._p._n. news on behalf of hyundai i gotta get into a subject that's relatively uncomfortable but i don't know of too many people on this planet answer this question better than you what the hell happened to the pittsburgh steelers this year in your estimation embarrassment you know i i look and great talent and i'm not going to put this all on be like i'm not excusing his behaviour but i just think what a._b. coach mike tomlin i mean you're the head coach you know some of this falls on your shoulders i mean we have too much talent for our team not to be in the super bowl coach hama we have a saying in our in the locker room all over the facility the standard is the standard but the culture their culture in pittsburgh that is this now is not the standard of the pittsburgh steelers it's not we're talking more about the pittsburgh steelers off the bill rather than on the field and i think that starts with the head coach as far as i look at i look at the patriots and i look at what happened to malcolm butler i mean a guy who they just completely came in late to a meeting so we're gonna take you out of the super bowl but here's a guy who just helped you win it through vo two years before that but coach ballot show he ain't trying to hear that he don't care we holds everybody accountable and i think for coach tomlin he has to lay down the law he has to do that with his own team and then you take ben rothlisberger who you do where i was going to do weekly radio show and you constantly put guys out there and criticizing guys we have one rule drome you had casey hampton break keys had joy puerto james farrior we had one rule one rule it was pretty simple keep my name out joe mouth when you talk to the media that's it if we're talking about brotherhood and the team in our organization in we're family we're brotherhood this come talk to me outside of the media you can come talk to me man to man hey i think you need to do this i wouldn't do this i wouldn't do this you don't have to keep putting it out there but let me ask you this question about big ben rothlisberger hines hines ward is it in maturity is it an absence of leadership or is it one of those situations where he is just scared to absorb his share responsibility on i think that's the case i mean when the quarterback you're naturally put in a position to be the leader on the team but when you wear the seal on your chest and the age like he's on the latter part of his career i hope big band to a higher standard because you know better you know better and you gotta be rallied two guys in the locker room because they look at what you do if you go out there and you constantly weekend week out through our guys on the bus that's why the office of lineman they're criticizing lebanon bill i make this much he wouldn't make this because you open that can of worms when you start criticizing players and your captain is doing it well the other players are going to do they go feel like they can do the same thing and i think for tonio brown he was just fed up with it because at the end of the day we as receivers were dependent on the quarterbacks we can't really do a we do the balls aren't thrown our way so when i hear when i hear stories about a big bands that well i just won't throw you the ball then that's that's a personal attack because then now you messing with the livelihood u._s. you messing with my business you messing with me putting food on the table for my money right so case but if that's the case hines ward then what is your do you have an issue with art rooney the second coming out and saying that he doesn't see antonio brown being back here listen when the president calls your phone and you don't respond to the president who pays you a lot of money you got serious problems like that's the first number that you pick up you see i got mr roomy in my phone and if you call me right now stephen and i gotta get off the phone which i gotta tell on route that's right so fervor tonio brown not to not respond to the guy who pays your check that's disrespectful and mr ruining he doesn't say much he's not he's not he's not one of those owners that goals out there and and talks to the public and this is what my team needs to do he sits back and let the coach do their thing because that's why he paid coach tomlin but when he comes out and he says makes a statement like that you best believe it he's saying so before i let you get on outta here is there somebody that has to go or does everybody stays hines ward is running the show they are all grown man let's sit down we thirty and above we sit in a room and say hey i don't like when you do that a._b. i don't like when you do that might tomlin this is how i'm gonna run my team i don't like both of you guys doing anything been stop talking about players a._b. stay off social media in ain't about you there's about the team you gotta buy into the team because that's the standard of the pittsburgh steelers you grown man sich joseph in the room lock it out hash it out bring a couple of brucie's in there and talk and then when you leave the media room so hey let's go out and want us out seven super bowl that's what it says that is my sentiment exactly because i'm here to tell you right now antonio brown's a bad brother i ain't is dan with any on another animal crap from nowhere he's under contract we'll give it damn about your feelings go to a therapist get off this burger do send about it but i'm paying y'all ain't going nowhere is where i'm coming from highs would appreciate your bro is a fantasy you got the patriots winning this game yes i don't bet against brady i've got better i've seen it too many times appreciate your taking all right the one only highs ward brought to you behind right he was leaving e._s._p._n. radio e._s._p._n. news at eight say e._s._p._n. it's edited seven to nine three seven seven six this is the stephen smith show on e._s._p._n. news e._s._p._n. radio gentlemen stop lounged around to take your girl out go to a game concerts get tickets to something plus the n._b._a. season is heating up and the time is 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Let's Ride: What the Steelers have to do to beat the Bills in Week 1

Behind the Steel Curtain

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Let's Ride: What the Steelers have to do to beat the Bills in Week 1

"This episode is brought to you by hp plus in a world full of smart devices. Isn't it about time. Your printer got smart to now. Printing is smart with hp fuss and the hp smart app is how it all happens. You can print from your phone with just a tab no matter where you are even from your garage slash. Home office slash. Ceo studio smart. Hp plus learn more about smart printing at hp dot com slash smart Birds fewer fans. Welcome back to another upset of. Let's ride. i'm your host jeff senior editor behind the curtain dot com and. This is an exciting show for a lot of reasons and no. It's not just because it's another show. It is because the pittsburgh steelers regular season officially kicks off this sunday when they traveled to orchard park new york to play the buffalo bills in week. One football action. I am so excited so stoked as they say here where i am at the at the beach. I'm really really excited for this upcoming game. And one of the things that i wanted to start the show off with today was how kind of disappointing this lead-up has been to this game. I feel that this. T. j. watt nonsense. No when this is being recorded tj wad had has not yet signed his contract. And i'm starting to believe that. Maybe he won't sign his contract and that he's going to basically say all right steelers. You don't wanna pay me. I'll play this year on the fifth year option. And guess what this off season. You're gonna home even more better myself. I kind of feel like that's how it's going to go in. The steelers are willing to take that risk. Obviously unless something happens at the very hour but if you're listening to this he's already signed a deal. It doesn't matter based on the fact that even if he does sign his contract. I am so disappointed that this whole negotiation this whole fiasco now. Yeah i think it's a fiasco has taken away from what could be a really good football game this sunday against the bills and the steelers to afc powerhouse teams. I know there's a lot of steeler fans that are just kinda down the dumps with the team. They don't think they're going to be any good. They see this whole negotiation between what any organization as a kind of a downer. They they kind of cloud hanging over the fan base. I understand those feelings. I understand those thoughts. The one thing. I can't get out of my head though is how i'm sick and tired of this news. I'm sick and tired of hearing about the t. J. watt negotiations based on the fact that there is a football game to be played and no one is really talking about it. not from the steelers standpoint. everyone's talking about tj. What ben rothlisberger talking about it. He's having to answer questions about it. Came hayward's have an answer questions about it. Mike tomlin's having to answer questions about very few people are talking about what this the bills defense is going to do. When the steelers have the ball or how they're going to try and stop stefan digs or what about josh allen. His mobility No one is talking about this of everyone's enamored with the watt negotiations. I understand why. It's just frustrating for me so i'm not going to talk about this today. I'm not gonna talk about it. I'm going to talk about the steelers have to do to win this football game this sunday. What they have to do to win the game this sunday. And then in the second half of this show coach. Mr captain blue park. Michael beck will be joining me to be doing our game. Picks we're gonna pick the steelers game as well as We're gonna also pick some other games the nfl. Maybe we'll just do the steelers game. I'm not sure but we're going to give picks make sure you stay tuned. Don't leave early. Don't leave early wanna miss. You wanna get all this episode. Before i go any further. I wanna make sure you're checking up behind the curtain dot com for your pittsburgh steelers needs. It's updated every single day multiple times a day. You have everything one fantasy football advice breaking latest news. Commentary films you name it. We have it behind the curtain dot com and wherever you're podcasters steelers or behind the curtain subscribe. Follow whatever you have to do on that platform so that you don't miss a thing. That's not just my less ride every monday wednesday friday. But it's alive. Mike on tuesday morning the static on thursday our whole new lineup on at noon. My gosh we have the cutting room floor jeffrey benedict mattie payrolls the war room which is not a new show. But it's it's one of those lineups on that line of we have The fantasy football. Fix jeremy beds talking about as well as the ohioans on the steelers power half hour and all of our afternoon shows. Remain the same so make sure you check it out. You don't wanna miss a stink thing. I'm amped up. I'm excited for this game this sunday. And let's talk about it. the hook. The focus of this show is going to be what the steelers have to do to beat the bills and week one. I read an article that runs every friday unless game played on thursday. And it's the expert. Picks i go online. I look at some predominant websites. Were talking about like years. Eight today. The sporting news. Cbs sports espn. And i get a feel for what the experts are thinking about this game and they are really heavy on the bills. I understand why i get it. I understand why the bills are a lot of people. Have them to be in the. Afc game this year. Not maybe even being the afc representative in the super bowl so with that being the preseason narratives running the team it's going to be a difficult task for the steelers to go in there on the road and beat the bills not saying therein. Picking them the win. I'm not saying who the to listen to the second half of that. But here's what the steelers in my opinion have to do to beat the bills week. One i'm going to break it down on offense and defense three keys for both sides of the ball three keys for both and let's start. Why offense why ben rothlisberger fan. I've always leaned towards the offense side of the football to start on offense number one. It's obvious it's probably these aren't in any particular order. But if i had to rank them it would be number one in that is run the football. I guaranteed you. Ask any random seal fan. Hey what do you think. The steelers need to do better to win a week. One they probably say the same thing. We've got to run the ball. The steelers were dead last last season. We know this yards per carry yards per game. That's awful you draft nause harass you kinda rebuild the offensive line you bring a new coordinator new offensive line coach. It's the rubber meets the road on sunday. It's it's you know crap or get off the pot but it that way. Now's the time for the steelers to really show that adrian cleanse aggressive nature net candidates creativity najji harris's skill set in even though they're young and they have some new faces on that offensive line. If there's one thing they should be able to do it is run. The football more effectively than they did. In the last season season in the half with brandy feet ner at the helm this goes beyond just giving them balance. I always talk about balance offensively and how important that is but it helps them. Control the clock it helps them dictate the way the game is going to be played and it's been a long time since we've seen the steelers ben rothlisberger under center hands it off to the running back two running backs three yards second down steelers. Run it again. They get four yards and then maybe they set up a third and three where they can run it again if they won. It's been a while. But i feel like this is shaping up to be just that that's number one run. The football number two the steelers offense needs to convert in crucial situations can't say enough. They need to convert in crucial situations. Were talking third downs and especially in the red zone. I love chris boswell. I don't wanna see him kicking field goals. I wanna see him kicking extra points if they can score touchdowns in not field goals and you're probably listening we'll jeff that's very elementary thing to say about the game of football sometimes. Football isn't elementary game. Convert in the red zone. Get down inside the twenty put six instead of three on the board. That can be the difference between a and a loss said. That's number two on my list. The third is they have to whether the early storm. I would expect if the buffalo bills win the toss. They're going to defer to the second half. It's going to be a raucous crowd. A place like buffalo where they might think they might have had fans air oak a few in twenty twenty but it was never a packed house. It's going to be a pactel's coming up on sunday. It's going to be an unbelievable environment. And i would expect the steelers to kind of have to weather that storm like i said they might stumble out of the gates. I don't think fans should get down on them if they can string together. Some first downs. Flip the field. Hey were okay. let's just keep going. Let's get our feet underneath us. The steelers are going to be in a unique situation. A situation that half the nfl's traveling on the road and kind of having to get reacclimated to a hostile environment. I know the kendrick green was asked about that. This week about are they doing silent counts and stuff like that and he basically said look. They're practicing everything. They're not sure what it's going to be like. Well i can tell you what it's going to be like. The bills matia is going to be out and they're going to be strong. They just need to whether that early storm. Don't turn the ball over. Don't make that big mistake and you'll be fine. I think the steelers offense will be just fine. Let's go to the defensive side of the ball. Before i break the defensive side of the ball number one make the bills one dimensional. This is something dick lebeau used to always preach when he was the defensive coordinator. We want to stop the run. Make them one dimensional. Make them one dimensional make them you dictate what they do and what he meant by that was when he stop the run early create third and longs. That's what you want. That's what you wanna do as a defense when you're that good and i think the steelers defense could be that good. They need to stop the run. Tyson lulu miss practice on wednesday. That's something to keep an eye on. I haven't gotten the the thursday practice report yet when this has been report when this has been recorded but nonetheless if he can't play that's going to be a big loss for the steelers when it comes to stopping the run but if they make them one dimensional. I think this is good. That's step number one step number two. Don't let opportunity slip through your fingers both figuratively and literally. We know that josh allen can be a little aggressive and josh allen can be a risk taker. It's always been his mo. He is kind of like one of those young gunslingers. The way they used to talk about ben rothlisberger. They now talk about josh allen and they talk about okay this is a guy that's gonna take some shots he's gonna make some risk throws if a defensive back it's his hands on the football you gotta bring it down. I can't tell you if you were alive for taylor's career you know exactly how i feel. How many times at steelers fan see defensive back in position to get his hands on the football and it slipped through their fingers and my brother he always says. Hey they play defense for a reason. Here's is vacant. Catch they be receiver and he's right. He is absolutely right. But in this regard. I look at it and say the steelers can just take a and that's also fumble recoveries the bog on the turf. If the steelers can get all the turnovers you can get. My goodness would be a huge step towards winning this football game and upsetting the bills on the road yet win that turnover battle download those opportunities slip. And lastly you gotta get after josh allen. But she have to own him in coning him in that slogan that statement. That was very that was made popular trying to think through the defensive medicine. Dick lebeau but might have been also keith butler but i remember when dick lebeau used to always go up against michael vick whether it was philadelphia whether it's with atlanta any of the teams were michael vick played. They played the steelers. He would always talk about. We need to own him in and what he mentioned was it. As the edge pass rushers would come in in rush the passer. They couldn't be pushed up the ark which will give michael vick and escape route. They wanna keep him in the pocket force him to deliver that pocket lead pass in the pocket stepping into the pocket. And that's where hopefully back in the day when dick lebeau is there. You would have players with his chris. Hoke whether it was. Casey hampton aaron smith brett. Kiesel pushing that pocket into the quarterback. They have nowhere to go. Josh allen is deceptively athletic and he will and he can run the football. The steelers cannot just go hog wild pin their ears back rush the passer get to the point where he has an easy escape route and then all of a sudden boom. He's gone ten. Fifteen twenty are gain. He's going out of bounds or sliding in. They moved the change. Those plays are deflating when you defend the play perfectly in the secondary. When you have a good pass rush. But you're just not disciplined enough cone josh allen into the pocket. Get after him they. I still believe this. Buffalo bills offensive line is not that great they can be had and i feel like the pittsburgh steelers pass rush which has led the nfl in. The last. Three seasons is certainly up to the task. I don't care if tj tj watt hasn't played or practice in team team drills this season. 'cause i don't think he's going to be playing one hundred percent of the snaps. They never do. But i think that if anything you get. Melvin ingram in there you get alex highsmith in there and you mix the three up. Data will only help the steelers pass. Rush guaranteed now. Alex smith has a little bit of a groin. He was limited on wednesday. That's something to keep an eye on. But still melvin ingram assigned for reason. And i think he's gonna have a maybe not a memorable performance because i'm not sure if he's going to have that many snaps but still i think he's gonna make a difference. We'll put it that way. Both in the run game and his pass rusher so there you have it folks on offense my factors for the steelers to beat the bills. Run the ball convert in crucial situations whether the early storm on defense make the bills one-dimensional. Don't let opportunity slip through your fingers. Get after josh allen but cone him in all right. You heard it here first folks. That's how they gotta do it. Will they get it done. We'll be back after this break myself. Michael beck coach. Mr captain blue checkmark has we're going to break down all the nfl games late. You know we think about those. 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Call one eight hundred gambler. All right pittsburgh steelers fans. It's the second segment of the friday. Let's ride episode. You know what that means. And if you don't know you should know and that's right. It's coach mr captain. Blue checkmark michael back. Our deputy editor behind the curtain dot com joins us michael. What is going on. Not too much hanging in there. Feel better after missing. Know your enemy but accent to get back on the airwaves here. How you doing jeff. I'm doing great. But everyone wants to know. I mean literally. It's twitter's been a buzz. How did your first college game go for the boys. It did the troops. Go out and get you a win. How did they play. What did it look like yet We work successful field but to give the guy's credit they battled for sixty minutes things definitely looking up like there's some tell that we got working force and i'm excited to get back on the field on saturday in oregon so think looking at work out here okay. Not successful means a loss in case you're not getting his co. cheese there But i feel like you're tom ridge. I talked about the tomlin wines. Better a remember their your arrow is pointing up like. That's the way we want to go. Are you painting with a broad brushed. You paint your barn red with that broad brush. We'll work on this my goal. Get you through it. Okay in the bar. We'll keep the lights on for him. Let's go with the steelers and bills. Everyone's i just been a whole first segment talking about this game and i gave my keys. Those on offense defense gave three of on each of what i thought. The steelers need to do to win this game. You did a podcast. On tuesday morning on your live mike about why the steelers will go to buffalo and beat the bills but if you were to narrow down to just a handful of keys let's break it down offense and defense. What do you think is imperative for the steelers to do on sunday week. One for them to pull off. And i think everyone. Even the most die-hard steel him would be upset going into buffalo and winning that game but an offense michael. What do you think the steelers needs to do on offense to beat the bills right. So first and foremost just gonna completely avoid turnover seat like we saw last year Through that through pick six just before halftime at the it was like a place like that. Have to completely erase. It cannot be doing that going in that hostile territory in buffalo and speaking of that homefield event steelers discovery. There needs to be the first guys on the board oatley building early leads something that just try to take bills mafia out of this game and then the last sam offense is just The offensive line putting together nicely. David himselves we know all offseason long. That's kind of the the area were a lot of people kinda pointed towards the scene said this is probably where they may struggle so if the offense like and come together put a decent sixty minutes together than I think they could be successful offensively so not turning the ball over getting points in the border early and having a nice game feeling self limiting sacks lending t.f. Tsl's along the offensive line. Those are the three biggest keys on offense. You know the nfl better than i do. I literally am engulfed in the steelers. Twenty four hours a day seven days a week and so a lot of times these other. Nfl teams. i'm going to be honest. I don't know them as well as others be. You know that you know the rest of the nfl. Better than i do. Look at his bills defense l. In your opinion what are the weaknesses on his bills. Defense all i think. They have a pretty good secondary cuts through together. And they got some unproven. A- early draft picks on the edge for their pass rusher. So i would say where you can find. Success against. His team is straight up the middle. Those d- tackles inside linebackers. To exactly jumping off the page. Offense steals can do anything. It's going to be running between the tackles and thrown We know how talented trae white is. He's one of the best corners. Look also him i am. You may have to limit you throws whoever the receiver that Trae white maybe following. Or if he's staying on an island on one side of the field than Perhaps you might have to avoid him out kind of that. Shallow routes now running inside zone trap. Plays all the things that you do up. The middle of the defense is going to be a spot where the Success on sunday. Also you talked about over the middle. That's that's tight ends man. That's eric burn. Fire me. they should be able to feast on some of those match ups. I like it. I like it a lot. Let's go to the defense side of the ball. Now michael steelers defense going against a suddenly a high power bills offense. I wanna get your take on this. Because when i think about the bills clearly no stefan digs. You wrote an article. That ran on a thursday about how that's priority number one for the. Ceo's is the slow him down in. I agree with you by the way you wrote this in the article. You said he is no longer stefan. Days is we're talking about. He is no longer a receiver that you say. We're gonna take him out of the game. It's kind of like what antonio brown was at his peak. You never took antonio brown of the game. You just wanted to slow him down at you like that's where digs is now outside of days. They have manual sanders. Who's on the injury report after wednesday. They have cole beasley. I mean outside of josh allen stefan digs namely the buffalo bills. Let's start with the bills offense and then we'll go into the keys for the defense wells. The bills have that is really noteworthy. The offense of the ball. You're exactly right by what you said. Like they have some decent young running backs They're tight ends. Aren't all that impressive. A lease smith is even gone there. The big offense alignment looking dude. Who used to be a tight nara. At i think he might even scored against the steelers last year. One of those embarrassing tight end touchdowns a couple times sweet. But a great memory offensively. It's not anything that jumps off the page. And that's exactly why. I wrote that article in a sense. Where the steelers should be able to rotate safety. Help overtop digs or destroyed a double team throughout the game that they got they have to slow that guy down and you sacrifices mattress with those other two receivers beasley in sanders. Sanders isn't good to go. That's a huge relief from the steelers. He is aging wide receiver. But still Still going to be able to slow down especially Bachelor up not typically with your top corners. We digs at attention absolutely. Let's go into some of the defense of keys if they're gonna hit on a couple of never will be your keys to victory for the steelers on defense side of the ball Of course first and foremost that wrote the article on it for reason a stefan digs goes offering another hundred yards and a couple touchdowns as probably not gonna be smooth sailing. The pittsburgh steelers One thing i also want to throw out is limiting. What josh allen can do on his feet because we know he is a big quarterback but the people like to compare big bend. But i'd say he arose around a lot better than ben eric in his career. What not letting him run around. Especially on those those passing downs. Where there's nothing going downfield stopping him instead of letting him stamper for ten fifteen twenty arts. That would be a huge one in. The last thing is just getting to josh l. In the back through the second key was not letting him run the ball. The third one here is like getting him as a drop. Back passer on nina rattle. His cage makes him wanna throw the ball but quicker that will also go hand-in-hand slowing down on digs. Not letting him work over the middle or get downfield because we know how successful on those deeper rouse. Alan will hold onto the ball and he will take some chances and so one of the keys that i gave was. I feel like you know anytime. You play a mobile quarterback. I remember dick. Lebeau is talking about this when he played against his defense. When it gets a michael vick lead offense it was you gotta chonam in. You can't give that escape route. Which you mentioned with the with legs. But i think josh allen will take shots and he will take risks. My goodness the steelers can get their hands on the football and actually hit. How deflating is when you see a joe haden in week. Three of the third preseason over the steelers against detroit when he had an interception he dropped it. they can't they can't miss those opportunities. they just can't do it. So good information there. Michael on the steelers game against the bills. What we wanna do though every friday to let the listeners know we're going to go down and we're gonna off our predictions for the nfl slate of games. He's gonna join me. I did this last season. My picks are awful But still i enjoy doing it. It's fun we're gonna pick against the spread but against the steelers will do the steelers game last and we will do both straight up and against the spread so michael. Are you ready for this. Or i'm all right. So let's get things started sunday. One o'clock week one philadelphia. Eagles atlanta falcons the philadelphia. Eagles are getting three and a half points jalen hurts in atlanta atlanta. Gets so matt ryan. Who do you like here. Michael this is kind of talk because we still don't know what. What the falcons are. They could be a team that are stepping back. So i can like philly with the extra points. In this metric i agree i like really getting three and a half points of both of us. Take the eagles. Let's go to the next game. One o'clock new york jets carolina panthers sam darnold revenge game. Whatever you wanna call it. Carolina is giving five and a half of. What do you think about this game. New york jets rookie quarterback thoughts. Yeah no this is an interesting like you mentioned. Sam darnold revenge game is going to be bringing it all. And then the jack wilson is going to be a rookie deer in the headlights. So it'd be interesting to see what he can do that first game. But i still like carolina giving five and a half christian mccaffrey healthy i like carolina giving five and a half as well so far we agree on the i. This is this is disgusting. Let's go minnesota. Vikings giving three and a half playing the cincinnati bengals jover. Oh and company. We know that they have the receiving we have. They have the receivers. I i liked joe borough. I think he's a good quarterback minnesota with you know they their skill players. Michael what do you think about this game again. Minnesota's giving three and a half points here. The bengals offense lunch still tragic. Jomar tracy struggled so. I'm quite heavily leaning on the minnesota. Vikings train in this one. I think the vikings take this with the points upset city for me. I'm taking the bengals actually win not straight up but with points gimme cincinnati. Getting three and a half. I don't like minnesota. I don't think they're going to be as good as people think. I'll take the bengals getting three and a half points all right. Let's go to the san francisco. Forty niners in the detroit. Lions san francisco is giving eight points. Big spread jimmy. G. is a quarterback as aided trae lance will play some detroit appreciate. They're gonna stink. But what do you think might go about this game. You said detroit is going to be a whole of san fran. There finally healthy other defenses. Good at like we know. How could that defense to be odd. Detroit just gonna struggle For being real here. So i can see samphran You said eight and a half as you hurried up eight. San francisco's giving eight. Yeah you know what i'm taking. San francisco's i think detroit's going on the wrong side of a of a number of law to share this one included. Yeah jared goff can't do it all by himself. I liked the niners giving points to cover that spread. That's a big number though for week one. Let's go to the next game. Afc south action jacksonville. Jaguars houston texans jacksonville with mr lawrence a quarterback giving three and a half to the houston. Texans what do you think about this game. Surprising it was three and a half but nonetheless jacksonville's giving those points. Who do you like right. The dumpster fire match of the week in the nfl Houston's offer straight ibm jacksonville's the worst League last year. I still think they cruised to victory beyond that. Three and a half point. So i'm taking the jags minus three and a half at houston's just can be tire car i agree. I take jelly jacksonville. Giving three and a half weather to shawn. Watson plays or not is is neither here nor there. I think this game is going to be going in. Jacksonville's favor next seattle seahawks. This is still at one o'clock on sunday. Seattle seahawks indianapolis colts. I think this is one of the sneaky. Good games of the week. If i weren't watching the steelers i'd probably be wanting to tune into this game the seattle obser- giving two and a half. This is a tough game to pick based on the fact. That carson wentz in a new home russell wilson. We all know what he can do. What do you think about this game michael. I still don't think if we officially know whether or not could nelson or wentz winter. Actually playing this one yet. So that makes it a little bit interesting. And then. I saw back the other day that the winningest team since i believe two thousand ten on the east coast. Is this seattle seahawks. You please her best football out east. So i'm gonna take the seahawks with those points. That i think i think the the pick of the week here for everything just let go like lining up perfectly in their favor. I like seattle as well giving to navigate carson wentz. He did not play much with preseason with a foot injury if he plays it on week one if he does in my gosh take seattle giving whatever points but still. I like seattle as well. Let's go to the next game all right. So let's talk about the tennessee. Titans in the arizona cardinals tennessee with loaded wide receiving in the arizona. Cardinals in cuyler. Murray tennessee is giving three points. How you see this shaking out all this talk on both teams are pretty similar I think i might like the cardinals. Defense a little bit more. But that high powered off of the tennessee. Titans is one that. I'm really starting to lean towards specially that rushing attack their kennedy and we know ryan tannehill to do with his legs. Well throwing the julio jones issue brown. I'm really leaning on the titans with those points. I like tennessee as well giving three points to be arizona cardinals. We'll see how that shakes at bud. Pre will he play. The i don't know. I think he's healthy. I think they might have been lineup. We shall see. Let's go to los angeles chargers in the washington football team los angeles going across country. They're only giving one point. This is an interesting game based on the fact that the chargers they're kind of a media. Darling with herbert in. But i'll austin heckler. He's already banged up. My gosh. i can't stay healthy to save his life. Washington football team should be improved. Good defense michael. What do you think about this game between the charters in washington i really liked the chargers Honestly in this one. I think they're a team that is poised to make some noise this year. I think this is a game that they're going to sneak in washington and come away. The fatty victory. I think just per takes another step forward and that defense. They're healthy and been helping a number of years. I just an exciting one. I'm taking the chargers. Those extra points. Now my gosh. We've agreed on every page except for one. I laid out starters. Giving one is well. Let's go to four twenty five on sunday. This'll be a good game. The kansas city chiefs in the cleveland browns in arrowhead. Kansas city is giving six. I know we all want to win. A d think that she will hold serve at home. All the chiefs are gonna slap the browns around and we're gonna love every moment of it I i think they win. With those points This chief team has been reloaded for another super bowl run. I think they're going to be one of those top teams in the afc once again. So i'm feeling on the chiefs over the browns with those points. I agree. I think he ended city wins. I think it's gonna be closed at times. I think in the second after gonna prove to be just too much. I think kansas city wins and they cover that six point spread. the miami. dolphins are a team. That's traveling to new england for the next game. Four twenty five new england patriots. Mack jones to miami. I feel like this is a coin. Flip game but for some reason. The new england patriots were getting that three point home giving three points. Miami's getting three. How do you see this one going. This is a tough one for me to pick. No you're exactly right. It is a tough one but two. I'm leading new england's favour. I just made too many editions this year. And i think mac up to to manage this game Managed ton of question marks not to believe yet. So i'm still taking the new england minus points. I actually like miami getting three. I don't necessarily think they're going to win it straight up but i like them getting three points. We will see how this plays out. It should be a good one next on four twenty five. Still the green bay packers and new orleans saints. James winston era begins in new orleans. Aaron rodgers is happy-go-lucky again in green bay leaves for this season. Green bay's giving four and a half on the road michael. What do you think about this. Because the game's not going to be played in new orleans due to the hurricane that went through there. How do you see this game. Plan out right. So hopefully james so winston lisa guy surgery. kinda helps him out and he doesn't throw thirty interceptions again but Think this green bay team is one especially because it's at a neutral site Definitely leaning heavily in green based payment for this one New orleans is still a competitive team. But i still need to see more from them. More their quarterbacks. There's just a ton of question marks just see more before it can get on that train. Some taking green bay medicines points. If this was in new orleans i would consider having ago maybe with the saints getting giving points or getting points at home. But it's not it's a neutral game like you mentioned. I like green bay giving four and a half. Let's go to denver in the new york. Giants denver's giving three the giants at home. Daniel jones not sure what to think of him. Obviously denver's going with a teddy bridgewater quarterback. This is a tough one to pick michael. Who do you like this one. I can only denver. They're pretty sneaky team on a good defense. They got good receivers. They're lying to matter of fact but it just comes down to bridgewater. Unlock so at still take denver. I i think they pulled out but their team. If they had a good quarterback it'd be a team that would be a very dangerous in this league but right now i'm a little hesitant on them but i think they will most game. If there's an ugly game alert whistle or siren. That had it would be this one. I think this one could be atrocious. It might be really low scoring that. I like denver even giving three points. Let's go to sunday night football. This chicago bears ad in the los angeles. Rams nancy stafford with the la rams for the first time in his career. I don't think we'll see. Justin feels except for occasionally with chicago. Bears the rams are giving seven and a half points michael. Who do you think wins this one. This is kind of tough. is chicago style. Pretty good defense This high-powered offense. I think they're gonna open up a little bit. See the brand new matt. Stafford era with these Wide receivers i'ma duffy leaning on the rams even though they're they're giving up so many points here i think they pull it out because they're going to try to show the nfl. Exactly what got. I think the rams went as well. I think nancy stafford net teams freeloaded as well. I think if anti don's quarterback i don't believe any team that any donors quarterbacking so we'll put it that way. I'll take the rams giving a touchdown and a half. Then we go to las vegas raiders and the baltimore ravens on monday night. Football the baltimore. Ravens are giving four and a half on the road across country. Lamar jackson but that team has been decimated at the running back position with jay dobbins out for the yell justice hill out after rupturing his achilles tendon. They signed lady on bell. What in the world. I don't know what to think of this. I las vegas. I think he's going to be better than people think. Michael any chance. The raiders hold. Serve at home and beat the ravens. It's interesting with what you kinda finished off there. Because i think the raiders are gonna be one of those a sneaky bad teams in the nfl. This year. I think there's a real possibility there are team. That's picking in the bottom five of the drafts So i'm definitely on on the ravens despite their entry troubles right now. I think the defense doesn't else continues to make some of those mistakes that he's been making over the past couple of years. He's been their head coach. So i'm taking the ravens minus at four and a half. I think they put out and they could be one of the potentially could be the only emc north team that actually wins in week one. Yeah we'll see. I like the ravens as well giving four and a half. You mentioned the afc north teams. Let's go back to the final game of the week for us. The pittsburgh steelers are getting getting six and a half points on the road against the buffalo bills. Michael we talked about the keys victory. How do you see this shaking out. What's the score prediction india. The steelers having any chance to win in this game to me the six and a half points was ridiculous steeler still at the at the end of the day even like all. The predictions are true from the national media. Saying they're still going to have a top. Two defense fell this. This group is still has other talent me added to it throughout this off season. So there's no way they're really gonna lose many match ups By more than a touchdown they're just going to be low scoring affairs. to begin with. I do the bills winning this game by Twenty four twenty one but That's the leads steelers plus six and a half to cover current sprint. I actually like the steelers to pull off the upset here. I like the steelers. It's going to feel game chris. Boswell nails with time expires. Twenty seven twenty. Four the steelers. Obviously i have on the money line. I also have the steelers getting the points. I think we both agree that it's going to be a close game in. I'll be one that even says michael of your prediction comes true. You aren't the only one in the steelers. Keep distinct closed. I think the steelers fan base is going to have a little. Bit of some some positivity leading. This agree with that absolutely. There's been a lot of negativity coming off the last Last few weeks really. For whatever reason. But no i think a close game a victory would definitely Set the fan fan base ablaze even close game. I think would Change some people's minds for this team positive direction. I agree one. Hundred percent are able microwave. Good luck this weekend. Edge her game and will be talking next friday and we appreciate you taking done. No thank you sure. My pleasure is always i take it easy all right folks in a big. Thank you michael back as always who joins our show every friday to talk about all things steelers. I appreciate him taking the time. Wanna finish this up. As i always every friday with little heart to heart so here. We are on the cusp of a new season. The twenty twenty one regular season is upon us and last season was i. Guess you want to call it an aberration for lots of reasons. No fans in the stands and everyone was kind of you know staying at home. And i understand that. So here's the thing if you're someone that's not going to the game that's fine. I don't go to games either. Here's what i think you should do. I should do it as well. Start a new start a new tradition. Whether it's just you sitting at home in your living room by yourself whether that's with you and your family whether that's you and some friends from work who all root for the steelers create a new tradition of some kind. Maybe it's hey. When the steelers i do i do this already. When the steelers were on the road will wear away jerseys. If they're playing at home will wear their black You'll do offense players. Are one days defensive players. another other day. Everyone bring your terrible towel. Let's have Let's team up food during the games based on who they're playing so this week they play the bills. Let's do some hot wings some buffalo hot wings or something like that. Make it fun. Enjoy this season. Enjoy football being back. it's exciting. I still can't believe that. That's what's can't believe football's back already. It's incredible but still enjoy. It creates them traditions. Make it unique. Make it you. That's what you should do because you'll enjoy even more. That's my advice for you as we start this twenty twenty one regular season and my other advice is makes you check out behind the curtain dot com for all your pittsburgh steelers needs to be your one stop shop for all things steelers. I really do believe that. And i'm not the only one. I'll tell you that for sure. Wherever you get your podcasters steelers or behind. The curtain subscribe follow. You do not miss a thing as always finish out here folks be safe. Be kind and god bless. I'll see you all sunday after the game for the post game show otherwise. Have a great weekend go steelers. Let's get a w bernie.

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2002 Week 01: Steelers @ Patriots

Patriots Dynasty Podcast

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2002 Week 01: Steelers @ Patriots

"This is Christine Brown and while I have to listen to this podcast. As my motherly duty, you have the choice not to my son's sometimes say some naughty things where they're trying to be funny, but really they're just being stupid. You still want to listen. Go right ahead I am not your mother. Welcome back! Loyal listeners. Keep listening. Keep doing this and now we're doing a second season. This is the two thousand two NFL season and we're starting here week. One Patriots Banner Night's. Opening their new stadium with a skip debris, season or what? Did you wash a preseason? I watched every game. On kmby, grow Han. Davies Future. Let. Let's back a little bit because we could talk about some offseason stuff censuses week one. There were some there was some big changes in the off season. The biggest one being drew bledsoe is no longer a New England patriots. and has gotten traded to the bills. Light Up Green your don't. Going up north to the buffalo is an Orchard Park. New York Yep wider pastures. Of Greenery happening up, there don't think but I'm sure we'll see him. A in future episodes, but yeah, let's talk about S-. Off Season what happens, there was. Some interesting. There wasn't really anybody else who got. Glenn CEO Ida. Off to the packers which we talked about the office in our. Last season with the the bi week deep dive Atari Gwen. We're actually. And not well on the packers I don't think but then. We'll get back to his normal. Productive self when he would reconnect with bill. parcells on the cowboys Andrew Buds triplets as well. Yes, he would, also you yeah, they would all get back together gang. Also big loss Rod Rutledge the was he the leading tight end. In two thousand one I think he may have. Deals because he was the only tied achy colony until the playoffs. Role True, then our boy. Way Germain wigand. What does he do connery now. is He still on the radio? Hey. I think? I know I. Don't think it's on radio. I think he's on the wait. Is Wigan on math I thought he was on like one of those late nights. He knows on Boston side I think he was on the morning. Show took over for Who is the racist Tahhan? Yeah. Yeah I think he took over for him at races. Talk show host in Boston yeah. They brought in. They got well as him and whoever the other guy was. Who was always Minahan? Yeah, I liked million. He to. he got old fast for me. He was a good interview he was. He was a really good interviewer though I mean he did not pull any punches. It didn't matter who they were interviewing. He he was. He was pretty solid. Yeah! He left to start his own podcast on Barstool so now it's They got the guy from Af. The morning shows Naef. Greg Hill Yeah Greg Greg. I'll just keep doing your job Andy Iskoe. This is this is what we do we. I I haven't listened to. The Guy just haven't listened to much IAE. Lately. Like the guy then. The bosses talk talking all. It's fucking worst awful it so much better. What he says that in North Carolina, it's hilarious. Elect the hurricanes dropped another one, but you know they'll get next game. All right, not just because they're negative about a different team. They're just less negative in general. Oh Yeah. Yeah last native across the boy, they even like make fun of Boston sports daily segment of like his off Mawson's warts radio. It's hilarious. We should do that and just have connor on. Two Bills Bills Radio is pretty good too You Got Brendon. Obviously, I have to hear you know. Ricochet Bills Radio from time to time and. God the Depression in their voices. And and and the lack of optimism. Fell draft? Tragedy born. I know joked about doing a browns on Brown's podcast, but I think that'd be really interesting just to hear how. Cleveland Sports. Is there Cleveland Sport Soccer Radio. Court sure there is yeah. You think you're going to have it just like. At this point now browns hardcore. Just like bill like Buffalo Sports Radio. You know you know sneaky depressed Detroit. I don't think that's very sneaky. Detroit Cleveland Right there. That little pocket who voice pocketed sadness rust, belt. What else we got from the off season. The draft who draft yeah. I know. Connor has thoughts about this draft. Does, he want couldn't wait to share why INCR- earlier. What an incredible draft I mean! Out Row Han, Davey or anti and Antoine Roma Womack. And I mean that just looking at knowing what we know now and seeing their careers. Incompletion. Daniel Graham, Jarvis, Green Dion branch, and then David Givens in the seventh. Yeah, that's. Was He'll. Pick, she. Yeah, he. Thing! How many he had so many big catches for than those the two thousand and three in two thousand four season, but yeah, what a what a steal! You're just Mr Reliable Tom. Who's the guy that moved the chains? Every time ahead is Jersey. David Given searcy Yep. Rail any hasn't. Heard! Like, never played again. Your Fault Yeah Yeah. and. And even like Jarvis Green, he was. He was never a superstar, but he was solid for years and he was. Just is a really really really good draft, obviously beyond being the highlight dion branch being the highlight. As true I think the the newspapers were were big on. The Patriots drafting their drew bledsoe replacement in Rohan, Davey. They were big fucking Van Hab. Yeah or ANAHUAC at arm. Yeah I I! Remember people were gushing Ram. Jamaican! Born in Jamaica. Really Wow got a roster quarterback. Arena. Arena League legend to. Was He I think he played a couple of years. I'm surprised at how many people were discovering who? Spent time in the NFL. And now we got to bring it back corner. Have you heard of the L. A.? Okay, so? Andy told me one of you guys doing like a spotlight. On it after your interview with Matt Chatham House. Them Chatham Matt Chatham. You're not from around here. Asked. Kid All right. Chatham. Sorry about that pojects no I really I I have no idea I have no idea anything about it I. didn't even look into it. I figured you guys. We're going to talk about it. You have to listen to the episode that comes out. We cap for two hours. Fire Season of the show. I watched ten episodes. Of like. A hard knocks version of for arena football. Team sponsored by. The Rock. Band is that what it is that what it is. Is it like a scene similar oh. Okay. Okay I think I could get behind I think. I could get behind this race electric. Highly recommend speaking of Titans Kiss has some tight end though. Some other. In Free Agency the Patriots seem to want to address the tight end position this year since I didn't have one the year before brought in Cam Cleland from the saints. And our all our altering Christian foyer from the seahawks. You start on the Seahawks, isn't he? Now, it's not worth it. Yeah I remember I remember. Looking at briefly and he didn't do much. Oh fucking hell. He played on the seahawks fire since ninety five to two thousand and one Jesus Christ. I thought he was younger than that when he came to the Patriots, not. Only he's not Christian. He's Jewish. Seven years with the seahawks. Seven touchdowns four years with the Patriots. He caught thirteen, so remember that time that he was suspended from. For Making Fun of Don Yee I do remember that. Speaking via. I. Mean that that's kind of what happens. Is that the sports agent is it. Is They Don. YIKES! Worry. I have a trivia question for yes. Alright who caught more balls in yards? Cam, Cleland and this year or the costs in the past year. Oh Fuck Cam Cleland Damn clue. He already catch like two balls in the first game. Yeah. He had six catches. I, think this game. He ends up with sixteen grabs for one hundred twelve yards. Damn. About as much as any came, its titans combined now. Lacrosse one hundred thirty one yards in your face cam. showed him. You're supposed to be like legit right like Cleveland. or Did he get her he did he get hurt. He came out of the gate with six catches. I mean it was only forty yards, but he. Said you six targets six options first game. I wonder if he got hurt or if they just. I have no idea. So he does get a touchdown I. Actually had a note about this. He gets touchdown in this game I. Believe Right this game I don't think. Oreo the touchdown I'm working at his. Kapadia and says when he was a rookie with the saints, he was struck in the eye by a teammate with a sock filled with coins during a hazing incident. What the early lost is i. in addition to suffering, a broken is socket and broken nose. The injury permanently affected his eyesight. Lord. while. I might. Be Incognito. One of the referenced articles. That is. A WILD Wild Story. I mean sock Philly, you can now compared. Yeah, compared to like pc culture now I mean. Someone did that in today's game and. You know they didn't rape. It's not raped or beaten up kids, so they'd probably like suspend them for a year. Say hit someone in the eye with. sock filled with coins. It's probably what does he joining a gang well? How good the guy who hit him was probably I'll do some research and let you know right if you. Could that'd be great. We'll do a deep dive on now. VISIT WHOLE LA Times article on it. Is, that's kind of the big changes for the off-season The wasn't a ton of turnover really. On this patriots team other then. Drew Blood Tone Terry Glenn. Brian Cox on the saints. Which? You didn't play much down the stretch. Did. He not play much at the end of two thousand one. Not really he broke his leg middle the season and then came back and played on it. But was not the same guy, so couldn't really couldn't. Much, so he was, he was like a just a run stopper on short yardage down. Yeah, I liked. I liked old man i. think what are you wear, number, ninety, two or ninety, five or something like that? I like Brian Cox. He. FOR THE SAINTS I don't and then he got into coaching and coached a match Adam when he went to the jets, they were didn't see eye to eye when they're on the Patriots if I recall. And the opponents, tonight was the Pittsburgh steelers who also really hadn't changed much. Their team was basically the same as well. And commentators actually mentioned that were basically. Almost exact rematch of the AFC championship game the year before because both teams were the same. Except even though the steelers defense was the same. They struggled a lot. First dealers. Even thank. The same divas finished sixteenth in points allowed. which is what mill the table? And seven yards allowed. It's not bad, but they gave a shit ton of passing yards of rushing touchdowns for some reason which actually saw. Kind of in this game with the patients decided they weren't gonna run the ball and just spread them out. and. Just gasoline desk, so we ranked actually twentieth in passing yards, allowed and twentieth in rushing touchdowns allowed so. There's a blueprint warily. Their. Secondary must have must have just been abysmal because that's maybe the best linebacking core. I've ever seen in my entire life. There's a big news the steelers. Jason Guild in. Ferrier. Remember Hendro Joey Porter Kindle Bell. Kendra bell was so many second year. Yeah James Harrison. Dot. The heiress another year, yeah! No. Wasn't really yeah. He's undrafted. Undrawn. fucking and they also have wary foot Larry foote was no slouch. Either Larry had some good years in the league. I mean this was a linebacker. Mike couldn't crack, and now he's starting on the Patriots and winning Super Bowls building. Yeah! He was the only one that did any of this game. I think, but I mean having settled at the the steelers could get almost no pass. Rush in this game. Whatsoever he this is the first two drives all time sack leader in the steelers and still is. Who is killed ill? Yeah, he was a monster. Affair. Fair, he was also the only one still celebrating. Down Three touchdowns in the fourth quarter when he makes a tackle for a loss. GotTa style that that steelers Eve Eso. Case. Ahead not go ahead. How you? GonNa say there. There dealing wasn't bad either Casey Hampton I remember all these names like Hagan's Chemo Chemo. Yeah I mean defense. Never seen. Classic Football Name Right there. Cuando from. Two of those linebackers guild and imported would actually make the pro bowl along with hines ward. Who is still hate to this day and anchor their guard I? Of course, you do because you're an asshole, too. Good. Your it Asshole to Steve. You got it right. I think is compete level. Yeah, because you're an asshole. Yeah, that's true on both counts transit of property. I think that works so recognize real. And, the the the new face on this offense was Antwan, randle El, also Fanta, but mostly a return man. The season well is Swiss army knife. Was Yeah. He was there brown according to John Madden. A college quarterback right? was that, was it not it wasn't. It wasn't I almost said V tack, but that can't be right. I can't remember where he went to school. I got you. Thanks. Would Act Guy. You went to Indiana. Back. Yeah. Maybe not elegant I'll get back to you on that. There was a who is the seals by? That threw a touchdown pass in the Super Bowl. Most positive. It's Randall against the seahawks. I thought it was. His Fun Farry and then they and they talked right, and they talked about him playing quarterback in college I sort of goodness. Yeah He. Yeah, he was the first player in division wind history to pass for forty touchdowns and score forty career rushing touchdowns. He also played. For the Indiana basketball team. Which? Like. Italy program wait dual sported at Indiana under coach Bob Knight. What a monster! That's impressive does pretty sick. Yeah? See like I can eat a dick. Though yeah, he almost didn't get it yet to sit out a year before going Indiana. Because of low sat scores No. Dominant. Sat's don't translate football, but what was community service still? You know well rounded applicant. So we actually saw Kordell Stewart again this game. But he would not last long. On the season he got benched week four because he couldn't stop throwing interceptions. started doing. From the Gecko in this game, you WANNA get into it. Let's be really didn't stop doing that. Right through two picks to close out the AFC championship game comes right back goes over three to I. Was Sure To pick on his first three passes. Both of those two were actually back to back, so he threw interception came right back in his added one wasn't enough in through another one immediately. To to Mike Cradle of all people, which is hard to do. That He. Didn't see him like he go. That was bad. But I have to say he can. He can Hukou football deep from any body position like he's running sideways and diagonally backwards and just like just slings at like he's. Skipping rocks, and it goes sixty yards. You y'all. Remember his nickname rate. Slash. A YEAH! I don't know. Why didn't he play a bunch of positions to? quarterback in mind receiver. Yet running back and all that shit about to get. A Randall. He got drafted to for Major League Baseball. What, about Kordell Stewart I dunno too deep into Randall l right now. So but I wanted to touch on somebody who I. I found fascinating. This was doing my research and that was the guy who took over. Fair Kordell, Stewart. And that was my boy Tommy Maddox. Pittsburgh legend Tommy maddox apparently. He played in the AFL. Just like everybody else new. Jersey red dogs. did okay and also played out the original xfl if you remember that with, he hate me. and. Was the league MVP for that one? He actually got drafted by the broncos. He was supposed to be always replacement, and then you know. Obviously wasn't. Is a first round pick. By back, only mathematics was a first round tech. By the broncos though so. L.! We had a hand in it I I always thought he was just like a journeyman. I never realized that he had. Career before like I. Remember him coming there. Be Like Oh. Yeah! I played xfl in that. I didn't realize that you already had an NFL career. Yeah he he had he'd been around the game for awhile. Because he from he was already a journeyman. He played for Denver for two years. The rams and the giants. And then took what six years off. To play for the XFL and the AFL and then came back to the NFL because he was the xfl league MVP, the steelers picked him up and now he was backing up Kordell Stewart. And then he came in, and all he did was I don't know which game it was. It was one of his earlier games. He set the. Week ten against the Falcons. He set the steelers record for passing yards in a game. With four, hundred, seventy three. In game of the steelers would go onto Thai. Thirty four, thirty four, which has got to be like. The worst tie in NFL history. That's that's probably worse than like a three three shootout that ends in a tie juice. Blue Ball SORTA. Come on, right. And then the week after. Against the Titans He. Got Hit. As. He was throwing tripped over somebody at apparently they hit, left him briefly paralyzed, and he was taken to the hospital on a stretcher. Yeah right, but then came back in time for the playoffs, the playoffs to the Ravens. Now sorry to the titans actually went lost the titans again. In a shootout thirty, one thirty four. Lost in overtime, so he is one of the more fascinating stories that I had no idea about because. The only reason I recognize the name Tommy. Maddox is because I'm pretty sure. I had his rookie card. Is Football Card back in the day. Nineteen ninety-two Gallia. We were collecting football God's bag. That was I nine. Peak, football cards and it. Wasn't just that? twinkle in your father's I in nineteen, ninety, two, I was three years old four years old. Sounds about right. Yeah I was five I. Don't remember Shit from nineteen. Ninety two. I was not I barely remember except for my time. Matic's UCLA. Rookie Guard. Probably that would have been worth money now. If I knew was going to be next, a felon would have it. But you know easy. Come easy go new. Jersey, red dogs is a pretty sick name. I wonder if that's related to the beer. I. If it wasn't. They missed a great opportunity? Did, talk about branding. That's. Like free giveaways at the game. All the beers cost money except for red dogs. which you can get as many as you want. They live mascots ship as the whole time. There's a lot to do that. He's got the Tucher gummy. Just shoot now Kansas read, Doug Apparently able. Deo is another way Alway la extreme, the xfl right. Yes, yeah. Did. He have a nickname. Tommy maddox! Yeah, remember he's. Yeah. He's been nicknamed in the back of their jerseys. Dude Yeah. TM twelve. Yeah, I mean. He is pretty white, so he probably just went with Maddix. Probably Tommy! That's the guy is. Don't go by Tommy like you're if you're a grown man like Gandhi. I'm Andrew Thank you very much. How dare you call me hated? Reserved for my mother, stop it. Greg, Greg don't. By Gregory. NY. Sounds pretty tired. That parenting is with that is. Thomas Alfred medics. And he goes by Tony White. is human ever go by Tom Bud? Alfred though. Alfred. Sure as gone by Ta Matic's. Right and TA Matic's. He's a fucking. Writer of short stories. Luckily we didn't have to. We didn't have to see Ta Matic's plan this game. It was all Cordell and. He was generous. I thought. Even starting from his first driving through an interception by our friend Terrell Buckley. who was on my favorite back in the day before we get too far? Should we talk about a banner raising the opening ceremony? It's Gillette game. Here yes I! have notes about about that all right here. Well I I don't WanNa go I mean. Did everyone get to watch any of it like the? G G guys see the Dennis Hopper opener. Yeah do what was it? Run US through. So Dennis Hopper you know I think would. Like US was the first game of the NFL season I think there was the first televised game of or was. That is right, wasn't it? Wasn't that at first televised? Damon that season? There's a Sunday night game, so is the first so they're. A primetime game it was a Monday it was. It was a Monday? I got it yeah. Yeah it was it was a Monday night game and. Dennis, hopper is just like. You know recapping the Patriots Miracle Season from the year before talking about the young kid Tom Brady, and then he gets into the snowball game with the Tuck, rule any like. Is just like the abominable snowman with like. White Paper Confetti. Fake Snow like it was the coordinating is. It was the corneas thing I've ever seen. And I thought I was going to be the thing that the thing that pissed me off the most, but no Nick Nick Carter from the backstreet boys. On the shoulder. To sing the national anthem for the fucking banner raising night for the Patriots me off so bad knitted. Carter I was disgusted. I love it I love. It's like I like the backstreet boys. Kinda, but I was I was just appalled seeing that. Was An odd choice, but they also coming back from commercial one of the. Like the the coming back into it things. They had nickelback song onto. Caught up. NICKELBACK? Maybe getting nick. Maybe getting Nick Carter to sing. The national anthem in thousand into is like. A huge deal and I just don't realize it, but. From around here, Nick Carter. Local. Boy I Nick Atta I. Feel like you'd want somebody who's like Moran here. No He's telling nationally televised game. The Boston Globe is pretty pissed off about it to. Jeff Jeff, Wagon Heim. One of his best and worse was Ah Backstreet boy singing in quotations the aunt. And then in parentheses, wasn't it past bedtime for Teeny boppers question Oh shit. Come. That's old. Man Yells at ground I mean. I'm going to throw. Connor category do? I? Mean it's a song. We can't have like a singer Swansong before a game. What's wrong with that? I. I don't know if I. You would just think that they could find someone. More impressive all. Night. Nick Nick. Nick. Carter is nick. Carter is from New York I don I. Don't know it just again. It is old man that yells at Cloud I. was watching the game. fucking eighteen years later today. And I was just like what is this? I can see both sides of it on one hand. Again. Nick Carter Thousand Two pretty fucking famous Yup? Probably that's probably the flip flipside is you haven't as guy with frosted tips. That also matched Lonnie Paxton's new. And like is that really the tone you want to be setting with your football team for the season John Madden was all about giving tax and shit for what happened to his hair. Fell into his hair. Was Dick euless. which probably talking about John Madden, too? Because this was his. First game on the ABC. And it's risky with Al Right now. Michael, Yeah Yeah. That was. Wasn't, he said it was the first time since one thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, nine had there wasn't an NFC team involved in the game us calm. Shit. Time Yeah, because all. It used to be on Fox and. See Exactly. So he did have one mess up. Well one of many. Of the second quarter. As like replaying screen, and there's three defenders on the screen and he's like this guy right here. Do you circles? And two of. Other guy. The Not, circling the guy you're supposed to watch. And then there was the play where they were replaying. Troy Brown's toe tap catch. And was going to replay and I called it a catch, so bill cower tried to challenge it, and then the overruled it and called me complete so ballot challenge it. And Madden seemed to think it was blatantly not a catch, so he decided to go on a tangent. While they kept replaying, it was obviously a catch and it was going to get overturned to catch. And it took them a good five minutes like of a couple of different stores before somebody must attacked him on the show and be like. Hey, by the way by talking about this because it's, it's going to be a catch. Is Oh. Look at this. You guys see what I'm saying, yes. Yep Jeff Wagon Heim from Boston. Globe comment on that as well. Let's hear. Apparently, the rats said that Brown drug, his other foot inbounds rather than dragged, said Jeff said that was. The worst drug test of the game. Guys like Greg Easter big. The Internet. Typical Jeff Wagon Hyman my right. I wonder if he's still doing things. Now, it doesn't Seem Racist Jeff Wagoner Jeff Wagon high on twitter. He doesn't know how to use it. When you come to a fork in the road, take it. Yeah, that's. That's his quotas by Yogi. BERRA's him. Oh Man What's your favorite Yogi? Bear quote, nobody goes or already it's too crowded. Yes, my favorite to. Gets laid out there early. To. Speak an early. If. We're talking about the crowd and his game. There was a thing in the Boston Globe about how great the traffic flow was. fucking right. Now at at. And the they're only praise was that they were planning on opening? The the stadium an extra hour early at four PM for this. What nine o'clock game? Time, it started. Nine o'clock but because people had arrived so early, the traffic was starting back, so they opened it at three thirty. Just let everybody in early enough to get super fucking drunk. And they. They felt drunk to me well, never gone to a few games over the years like this. This crowd was fucking rowdy. They started a madden chance at the end like atom. Monday night football. You just come off a super bowl raising a banner brand new stadium. I flew. Will. They didn't know that. I battled little bigger. They don't fucking not the last one, and then you'd better meeting innovate and all a world war. What until the second one happened? Surprisingly there? They were underdogs. The pats going in yeah, they were three point dogs, which I found surprising for this was They show the first time since eighty three that the champs were underdogs in their season opener. Yeah Shit Stop. Thompson Book Bullshit L. Teacher Yeah. We should stay. Say The final score. What was it? Thirty four. Pack which we'll get to. That close wasn't even nearly because we were in that. It was thirty to seven really. We'll get to that during the. Alley in this game. This is officially Gillette by this point right? Yeah, yes, yeah, it was no longer. We don't know what happened. Nobody ever said what happened from CNN. I feel to Gillette, but they announced. Gillette field well. I I read an article in the Hartford current about it. As you, do yeah. Stock. was like the hottest thing in the street. As. Recently as January, two thousand. One, hundred sixty three dollars a share. And then. By off. Yeah well. It was that in nine eleven I guess. Yeah. I think nine eleven kind of like the DOT com bubble happened, and then nine eleven happened just kind of like crushed any. Anything that was left of right there. On the stock market so when everything? There was no money out there for them. But went from one hundred sixty three dollars, a share to forty cents a share in like a year now gone. So. Lost, a shit load of mine. got. That's brutal well. That explains I. Don't have the. The rights to the naming of the stadium I guess Yup. She's E, take stock. Paying ten million dollars a year for the rights. That's reasonable. This stay in business perspective yeah. Yeah. I wonder if you have to sign a multi year thing though. It was one fourteen for fifteen years. Wow, but then the stadium itself only costs three twenty five. So you're getting a good chunk of money back. Wonder wonderful has to be paid up front I. He isn't the raiders. Stadium or the Rams, stadium and billion. Bra All that money's like all inflate and everything anyway nowadays. At the time, it was at the time as a ridiculous amount of money to spend on a stadium on top of the money that he spent on the team itself right. Out We'll, we'll do a deep dive on our 'cause. That's or we got talking about. I had to feed my dog. Stadium. Yeah sorry, sorry, I cool Bray I remember when it first when. It wasn't a Brag I'm sorry he's. Itchy? anyways, you guys like that open concept. I wouldn't I yeah I. DO I don't know if it's still the allure from when I was younger and like the. That, big archway with the open concept seems like it was pretty. Cutting Edge, not cutting edge like a new. A new design at that time. Going on what eighteen years now that thing being what is so for an eighteen year old stadium? Greg? I duNNo. I go back and forth. Like I like it because of you think that Murray. But I I. I don't think it has anything to do with. How the stadiums designed. To me, it's Kinda like me. I think stadiums fine the coal experience with the route one. Really her right and you go to other stadiums around like this stadium like way better. Whole Process of everything. Redskins Games a great it. In time. ENSKILDA, sweet or like Seattle. Stay thing because. Do, you think it's because. Our tailgate is so blah that you walk into the stadium, not feeling. And Yeah fired because after after bills tailgate I. Don't walk in and I. Know It's a Shithole walk in and I'm like God places Shithole I'm all pumped because there's just. Like the best tailgate on my life whereas Gillette. Everyone is just kinda like. I don't know maybe in two thousand, one or two thousand and two people were had a little more pep in their step, but. Going back and recent these past these past couple years. It's just people are just sitting around like. A, Steph, where the best like Guy I. Don't you know I'll maybe you know exactly? I think even just watching I remember the feeling washing games back then compared to now, and I felt it again recently, when Brady was suspended for the first four games of whatever season was eighteen. and. You would go into the game his first game back. No, no those first four games. Just. Right yeah, and you go into them and it had a completely different feeling because. I realized that. Over the years you'd go into the game expecting the Patriots to win, and now you have this the stress of them living up to your expectations, and if they didn't you get all this wagon, all pissy. Because an all playing like that, they can sort of thing whereas when you had Jimmy G. and there was like. Hey, maybe they'll win this. Maybe they won't, but at least exciting. Let's find out and I think. That part of it I think it's probably what's missing from. Patriots tailgating these days. Yeah I mean. You don't really even care I don't WanNa. Say don't care about you. Don't really even care about the Games until the playoffs. This pet, these path like you. The winds the Wednesday meeting. Nobody! Just such A. Win that started. I I would say probably from like the two thousand seven season on. Right I think when we were pre one. Those first three were still Kinda spunky. You know spunky fan base like we still have like. You know we're finally starting to success with the socks you know. We're like the miserable Boston Fan. It's just it was. It was groomed in red sox misery, so we brought that like chip on it. We brought that chip on our shoulder like over into football season, and with our patriots fans And then we just became like just hockey and didn't really get up for games probably I smell like as soon as. As soon as Brady, took over his offense and and became. Elite at what he was doing like. You said in two thousand. You've made even two thousand six. He was dragging the team along with them. And, so you just never felt like you're actually out of any game and you kind of expected him to win it every time. Though it came with this expectation of if they don't do it. You're disappointed and Tom Brady because he didn't do what he normally does. I hope they win this game and like a unique way that I remember. Yeah, exactly you have many. In browns and bills fans. You're pissing off right now. Because fucking Patriots podcast literally earlier today I had about Lions Fan. Try to tell me is talking himself into Matt Stafford. As League MVP. On Lake six thousand plus thousand. He's like yeah man. It's like she not a bad bet. I was like okay. Let me know how. Who are they throwing to go? I could even she's. Got A nicotrol. GRONK did anything that's his. He's like this is my cycle. You know I'm at the point right now. Where like shipment? Anything's possible exactly? What's most possible that they're like twenty five year like playoff streak continues. Yeah I think that is. What part of July is really nice? Though is, they're drunk tank. Yeah. Explained to me under the well. I actually don't know where it is. Or you don't remember where that's correct. Very cavernous, though so I thought it was under the stadium, but I'm not positive with very roomy looking. Yeah, yeah! All, right that's that's nice any any accoutrements. I was in there with another kid. Didn't like me. was that. I don't know, don't remember. Was the game on. Baying on the window, I tell me the score and there were no. Jesus Christ. Name. Kelly's learn about your brothers me up. With your in laws. That's correct. Can't, MR early days to. God blessing God and they're still stuck around. Yep. I mean. In In Gillette! Securities Defense you are insufferable. Yes, absolutely black with once you. Once you get past that level you are you're you're pretty insufferable? In terms of I mean I personally love it because it's usually directed at. Bills Fans. We go to build things together so and that's always fun. you've certainly gotten some RV tires slashed. Do to you. Oh, yeah! It could have been wrong. Get rocks throwing. Rocks thrown at us. Rocks thrown at us, yeah. Greg Pierce rights you, didn't you? When you're sitting on top of the hour of. Give it? That's annual. That's commonplace dislike. Jesus and we we, we're GONNA get into this game, but I wanNA talk about it I'll just to say well. We've been talking. Kordell Stewart just hundred inception. You're probably talk about that, so yeah I was GonNa talk about you WanNa, talk about Cordell. Go ahead. You have the floor. I was just GonNa I. I was just GonNa say that. With all the offseason, talk about like. You know Tom Brady. Was This just a fluke. Israel Davey GONNA. You know up, settle, you know. Take the starting job at some point. and. Defending Brady and Yeah Big Dick Tawny. HAD HIMSELF A game. I mean I wanted. He sixty seven percent completion percentage AC- hair under three hundred yards, no picks three TV's just came out there and was just laying. Yeah, obviously. Our tending to run the ball. No. No our defense granted and great spots all throughout the game. There's just Tana turnovers What a statement from Tom. I thought. He function new faces to I mean Dionne branch had a huge game six receptions that Cam Cleland I mean he was. Throwing at all over the field resilience of drops in the bucket. Pork, because the steelers pick. They turned into nothing. Go three and out. Of Line Field Yeah. They got touchdown on. That was the first ever points scored in the new Gillette. Stadium Christopher Little! Trivia! Thing, yeah Christian for you. And outgoing, but even that drive was only because the seals have committing penalties on third down defensive holding. Jumping off sides on sorts of bullshit. steelers got some they a going right. They had that bullshit. Pass fearance on time. Tile Gregor W watch his game 'cause law. This is an you know what I'm actually. A little pissed that you didn't get to see his game because. This I thought you were going to actually join me on the dark side because the reason. The pass interference calls. We're getting called on. Thailand was because hines ward was flopping all over the place and any time. You wasn't gonNA. Catch the ball. He just kinda like flopped over onto ground, antilock getting called for Bass happened twice once the end zone. He he was. The that's literally Hines Ward's. He was the best in the league that he was known. You, so he's doing that and yeah, he's like starting fights after after turnovers and stuff and he's just like. He's obviously known for his his. We'll call them. Generally, his borderline blocks crack back blocks on people who is injured and stuff. Just, not a fan of them although to be fair. He not an team eleven. Money is oh. Yeah and. In his defense. There's a lot of people looking to get their shots in on him. So even if you caught the ball went to ground, nobody like tagged him down. They fucking jumped on him like helmet, I! And especially law Malloy, who was just going and heavy literally every time he was even close to the ball, and he just like pop back up. He's like yeah. I get it. gave the guy on the button title the next play that was like elite Thai law years too, and he still had a game. Today. He had like ten tackles. Back. Hindsight added that one touchdown on him. He got him pretty good. Getting over on the defense in the motion. You've been a pretty clean. But that. On that first drive the second half for water. Or they call too Pi's Ontai. Bullshit. So see the ball first and goal from the one. They fall fuck apart with the REX call a false start, which was also bullshit, which wasn't there. Yeah, that was a bad call, and then Chris Mata Ma follow like had the ball knocked away from him by lawyer someone after the play. It's personal foul. Then they kicking a field goal, and they have a false start. He's named. Paul. And then it cuts hours. Face a baby. was. It was like it was the bill. Cower faces up there. I think on the Pantheon of. Annoyed phases. Manning brothers! Yeah, he's definitely like that kind of that. That jaw whereas mouth almost becomes like non existent, and it's all bottom chin. Is Extends passes knows it's ridiculous. It's fantastic, yeah. And that was that was peak. Because yeah, they did. I actually wrote it down because they get a first down. I like you, said I and go from the one and then. They get backed up on penalties. And then they complete a pass on third down to fool Mata Maa follow one bad ma, follow exactly so he gets tackled at the one or the two right so chip shot field goal, but then lawyer Malloy does is bullshit like the. From? Mafele tries to reach the house like knocks out of hand. And so he gets up and pushes malloy in the chest and gets a fifteen yard penalties. Now they kick it from the fifteen. which still makeable Phil Goal, but then they they do a false start, which moved them back another even further back and then they missed the field goal. Wide left the take all back down and hit the exact same field goal from Ventura. Exactly. And Jeff Jeff Wagon Heim, said that that was the best bus stop. There was a lot of bus stops. I. Don't know if that's the best one. There was one that I think. It was Willie mcginest. Just came off the edge and the bus tried to do was like it wasn't. Even a sweepers just like out are off tackles thing. And just random over like he was. UH playing football back in the day where I was like a foot taller than all of you and tackle, you will like whatever angle. It didn't matter if you had the The momentum or anything like you're just hit me and you just fall over and it looked J. I don't remember this at all that either. Of course you don't. It's all the concussions I gave you. Open up half to with the. Donald Hays touchdown. Actually a really nice turn after you get the ball in the awesome blocked by Dionne Doll Hayes who we saw. At the end of last season, regular season, playing for the panthers, and he's the one that had a couple of football's come off his hands that were returned for Hutch downs. And they were like like what by St there? Let's this guy exactly. I, this sparked my thought this Cam Cleland I was like what are the skill position players that we've got in? That haven't touched down because they'll know that list of Brady touchdown passes. It's on Donald. Hayes and CAM CLEVELAND, or on it like who couldn't crack that group. I couldn't find them. People who've played more than eight games of Brady and still couldn't catch A. Td I. Will Actually you know you? Weird one Stephen Bradley. That's true. Yeah, he never caught a touchdown pass. Yeah, you didn't really catch to watch though still. Had like four years as a starting tailback. We get one in there some point you would think some screeners. Yeah, so you can you guys named the top five. Receivers Ranch Welker, Prong Maas Welker. Ranch. Yeah so it's Gronk Element Moss. welker James White. Sake. And then the branches six. Number seven. Theoretical question for Connor. WHO's a bigger? Data Pan or branch. who was what who's like more legendary Patriots Blair. Branch or patent. Oh God I the only the only huge branch. I remember more legendary. David Patten catches the one in the back of the end zone. was that the one from drew bledsoe in the back of Enzo Andrew had the step and are. They able branch I. Yeah, but Brandt. Branch also won a super bowl MVP. That's a tough one. I remember more legendary catches probably. In, those Especially the first in will branch wasn't there. Two Thousand One David Patten at a bunch of catches throughout the playoffs in snow. Branch Branch was better patent. I Dunno sticks out more in terms of catches. Is Our analysis to yeah. I think it was patented, had the the more memorable catches because he also had that game where he ran paths, passed and caught a touchdown to. Dan's best, YEP, receiver! We've ever drafted in developed. There's a hot take. Right. Era Yeah. Either way they're like one eight one B right James White. America. You can put him on there. He's fifth on his team and touchdown catches. The radio. Jamie Blanco. That's fascinating. He's going to move to wide receiver this year. I'm calling right now interesting. Where though we're GONNA put them in the slot. They play. They play him out wide receiver all the time anyway, so they might as well. They play. Everybody Watches Evil Oh. Yeah, exactly. I mean the Patriots aren't afraid to throw a tight end up. They're not tight end. fullback out there. All the way back to the Mark Edward Days this game. Actually Trust me on the film review. I don't trust that. No. We have A. we have like a top three tight fullback this year, Danny, by towers. Can Cash. yeah, he's. What do you think about him the? Articles Oh boy. Justin in roar Wasser. Guess. He can kick it a country mile. I think it was one of those classic like he knew exactly what Tattoo was and. was just coasting until. It came up I. was draft and Now. He's crying on social media. Saying he's getting covered up. It's a classic. The story is all this time. Held. His name translates to. Justin pipe water. Does. Pass on Rodrigue. blankenship for in tap water. I just I can't believe I wanted. I wanted rod so bad. Agree easiest a fucking legend. Those glasses man that kid from Georgia yeah with with the REX becks yeah yeah, yeah. He's like a rapper like hangs out with all the whole. God really yeah. Yeah. He's awesome. His name's Rodriguez blankenship. Come on. As a kicker. You got half the sign that guy. Yeah Yeah, the colts got them right. Yeah. You went undrafted and signed. Will all right speaking of kickers though. Connors boy adamant Terry. Had himself some kickoff problems in this game all? Decided to. Write the in the third quarter kicking out of bounds. Kickoff fucking idiot timed. Time to hit the panic button. Where do you think kind so? Yeah? I think we should probably cut them in draft to. Draft the kicker in the third round. Maybe someone more accurate. Preferably somebody more accurate would be good. Yeah, but we'll statistically speaking. So well, Connor. I I want to bring this up. I wanted to bring this up to you. Because just to hammer my point of like you. Just you select the memory we were watching the. AFC Championship game from last year against the steelers right fate. The Patriots are up seven. And they're driving with like I. Don't know what to men's left something like that. He and they get a forty five yard field goal to basically win the game. It's GonNa. Make ten point game. Pushed it. gave the steelers another chance still interception, but if the steelers go down and score there, that's a whole different. A whole different perception on what Adam Vinatieri's career is. It was real yeah. Okay that's fair. COULDA WOULDA. The only it was the only field goal he missed. like I said I big teen on. Yet but guess what. We won the game, so no one remembers that you remember. But then I, defense won the game, so no one gives a shit about what the kicker did. When? PEOPLE REMEMBER IT When it loses. God I'm not. All right I have. To my questions. I. Pose your question. which which player has like the most catches, but no touchdowns from Tom Brady. Okay, Ooh, what era I? Guess it. Maybe probably not. Play two thousand seven to two thousand ten forty seven games. What position did you play? Running back. Ben Jarvis Green Ellis, no, he's on here though he did not catch one. Ben Jarvis had. Twenty six catches. Forty nine forty nine catches, no touchdowns. From the running back spot now, woodhead right, nope! Now, he's scored on the Gary. No? Must have one on. Damn. You I think he does actually. Ridley for reference had twenty three catches. Wow double that almost. FUCKING Really has the most games fifty two games that sense tell us four. Did I catch us? No, no, no, no, don't tell us just yet. That was more time to Google. Sanjay. Connor gotta saying more Hale. Did. Google really is a fucking wonder. DO IS I. I. Thought I heard Alexina Becker okay well. Well there is a there is other running backs to choose from on their besides. I almost asked if you were going like. If you're being coy and it was actually a fullback, but he's called them a running back just to throw us off. Because I almost said Heath Evans, but that would have been lie I think he's caught on James Devlin, never did. He did but it was in the playoffs James Stephenson. One, it was, it was one of those blows against the best. Just regular bluntly has one though against. Jacoby Myers is on this list. Myers, well yeah okay. I mean that's Sony Michel. Is A lot. Of people that have one though. Hollister twenty three Games Antonio Brown. He's got one Mr. big chest himself as many touchdowns as Matt. Mulligan does. I Miss Open for that matter. I miss him, too. I wish you still Antonio Brown. This sort of been a whole different season if we'd had in out Brown. Could've masks a lot, I mean not. That? We probably had to what the worst production from the tight end position in the history maybe in league history this year. just two thousand one patriots of probably argue. If. They probably give that a run for their money. It we just determined came. Cleveland was worse. But he wasn't the started. Daniel Graham. Who? Intents Berbers looks like a fucking wagon. I. Don't know how he didn't work out. Because that's a big man who moves quick, include a while while in the league and he didn't not workout. Wasn't. The GRONKOWSKI that. He looks like he should be. The looks like he has that same like speeding. And smoothness to his route running and stuff but. Ten years. Did. He play where you go to the saints. DENVER. DENVER, that's what it was hit. Watching. Yeah, yeah, what sounds good? One of these new graphics will be a good. Watching could he was a specimen coming out of college? I thought he was going to be I thought he was going to be. When I remember when we I think it was what Gaza and four when we drafted Watson. I thought he was going to be dominant. You so fast. He was kind of like. He's the one that ran down champion for Vernon. Yeah he did run. That was an incredible. That's. I'll never forget that by. Yeah no, it's Brenda rated speed of underrated. We talk about this fourth quarter. Fourth quarters under rated by the way it's overrated. Because this point, it's thirty seven Patriots. steelers have given up literally. What this has my best play in this? Does it yes. Okay! Let's hear. It actually didn't count. Going to be my best actually, my boy Roman Phifer. Willie, the other Willie mcginest. Wrecking plays. Bodies Kordell Stewart CINK. Kordell Stewart Rolls Out and decides to pump fake. To give themselves some more time and Willie mcginest doesn't take that Bait. And just lights him the fuck. Perfectly clean tackle and like interview. It wasn't a fumble right. Cordell Kinda held it until. Metal at the grand growl immediately shot out. So look like fumble in real time. So. Yeah Roman Phifer returned it to the house right yeah. But if you watch the replay of that. Willie mcginest gets up to go to recover the fumble and I think realizes that Pfeiffer is probably has the better angle, so he peels off blocks. Whoever the running back or the? Of the steelers running after. Yeah and that's what sprung in for the touchdown, but like you said it, it got overturned. The lady absolutely bodied him. It was that that was he really mcginest and ended up at thirty eight. We scored. We should another six seven on top of that yeah yeah. But yeah. It did also set up a third and thirty four which the steelers couldn't. Convert after this look. So Good Oh yeah underrated. A great name to. Pifer yeah. Also, way late in this when they're scraping for content. They cut to this guy in the Patriots booth called Bucko Kilroy. Which? Absolutely an amazing name who had spent like sixty years in the league or something I when I did a little research on him, because like what an amazing name, and lies in the pages booth, and I've never heard of this guy. He was the founder of the draft. Fuck Shit. He's shaped the modern super bowl as we know it now. He's. He's generally like the like the game 'cause. A championship. Tell Old sky was. he's generally known as the dirtiest player ever. Even John the broadcast calls him that. He is a Patriot scouting assistant and the reason he stopped is because he died. Oh, shit, he was. In the eighties. In his head out in the two thousands when we drafted Brady and Richard Seymour all these guys fucking hell. Bucko Bucko Kilroy Yeah. God Damn. SCUZ- a legend US, instrumental in drafting Roger Staubach yeah. He played for the Philadelphia Eagles. Awkward to team that they made it when they combined the steelers and the eagles. Yeah? I caught that name like there's gotTa. Be some story behind wise steelers. Emmy Eagles combined ads awesome. Can Kilroy. About the Beanie Steel I. Ne- I. Need A fucking. Kilroy Struggles Jersey. Prime Major. Just know when the player NFL history. Absolutely, yeah, they were. They were definitely a grasping at straws in terms of like content because they were focusing in on the Like the tray of all the medical equipment. Yeah. Yeah, talking about how they didn't know what any of it was. and John Madden to jokes. Something about what was it? Civil Mamata Airlines or thermometer airways is what it said. Sounds like a terrible box to open, but which I didn't know, he was afraid of flying. Clearly he must be. and. That's why they always had like that stupid trailer at all. That he would do right. Eat the Turkey after Thanksgiving from it. They put the player in the game. He had a fear. Flying Heyday was definitely a full-fledged like diagnosed phobia. Battery wouldn't fit in the seat. I. Mean you remember that part of the plan the? Remember that Boston, the little giant remember when he made his cameo in the little giants like Bruce Smith and A. Me! That's a fucking deep. Cut Right there God do. which there's actually content on the field to like we had really bodied people. and. The steelers scored a last second absolute garbage time td oh. My God this was fucking brutal was a super mad. This is shades of when the Patriots of blowing out the colts last year. The colts kept calling time outs. They get the ball back and then they threw in their backup quarterback. Felt like yeah. There was literally no reasons go down. Thirty to seven. Under two minutes left and they're just like. Pulling out all the stops. If they're running, trick plays. They're running no huddle. They're like desperate to get in the end zone and Cordell. Scores a touchdown because he can't figure out to the ball across the plane instead of his feet. and. Tedy Bruschi was fucking livid about it. Like he had to get pulled off of the referee by multiple players. It was kind of like that. Bills gained. Thirty one nothing book and year. Yeah those are kind of driving down there on that game I totally understood the bills motivation. There was like yeah right. Lose that same score you beat us on week. One like I I was not like. What are you doing? Bills ears waste Cyrus. This was a lot more. Like what do you do in steelers? You wasting everyone's time? Yeah, they were. And so to the point where they scored one second left and the referees like what we're going to run. The clock offers not whereas doing. Latin, we'll go home is. Only about that last second. It's. No big deal so I think that brings us to best and worst Greg, did you? Did you have any best from your boy Jeff Wackenheim? He's got A. He's got a ton of Mir. Give me wagon hines. That's his best yeah. Just give you the to corneas ones. He's left on. The the worst impression, an impersonation of Terry Glenn. Christian for a number eighty eight in your program actually made onto the field, caught a TD pass and didn't get hurt. Shit. That's the bucket fire God Dale. And then worst superiority complex the steelers of claim, their AFC championship game losses a fluke. And that they were the better football team. Based upon their tackling last night. Maybe they meant best touch football team. Jeff Wagon Heim fire flames, just roessler. A week. More like touchable Baugh. How many more these do you have Greg Thirty? He has like no twelve fifteen the whole season here. and. I bet we can find them. Yeah, I definitely have. Some Jeff Waghorn and. Keep I got more of them for Future Games. Are Caught let's hear your best and worst MS game okay. I'll be. I got some good ones here So fast, here's here's. Here's a fun staff for you. Tom Brady was incredible. He had three touchdown passes, which matched his total for the last eight games of the two thousand one season. Regular eight in the last eight regular season, Games which we won all of Phnom Brady had a total of three touchdowns across those eight games, so he came out. I think he shot up a lot of the media. Pundits pundits. He probably shut up a lot of fan to were wondering if it was a fluke, he was awesome. you was Terrell Buckley Terrell Buckley was so underrated. You know being in that secondary with lawyer, Malloy and ty law. DROPE lucky luckily and even to Bucky Joan. He was just really solid and I think he had a five or six, maybe seven interceptions this year, maybe five or six, the only had three the before, so he had to two picks this game. and my third star. I'm just GONNA. Do Losers and winners started on my? my third star probably goes. It's it's tough to say I'd have to go get the Dion first game as a rookie coming out with I. Think he had like seven or eight catches. He's eighty five yards. with the Kentucky to the exact kind of like. Long player and by long I mean just like the stretches, the field runs a lot on those like deep posts and and fade routes. I. Think it was just what the offense was made need need. That was sweet. Biggest losers, bombs or things that sucked Kendra bowel I think. Getting injured in I. I think it was the first quarter. He was defensive rookie of the year last year. He was supposed to be I'm not going to say they would have won I. do think it Kinda changed. definitely did the trajectory of the game Jerome Stinks. What a big fat load! All he did was I I I? Think he had like six hundred rushing yards this season. He just don't I mean granted he. Punched it in nine times, but drum bettas. Blah. And then obviously? Any of the fumble yet which led diving and led to the branch td. and then the third biggest loser is I. GOTTA GO BACK TO BILL I go back to Bill Towers face, and then terrible mentioned is. Honorable Mention is what's his face the quarterback. Kordell Stewart He. He. After being. Offensive Player of the year in two thousand one. All pro he he was like he was I think he was the AFC MVP our offensive player of the year the year before he came out and. showed he still had the APPs from the AFC championship. Game it was not? And he would last two and a half more games after this so. Yeah. Slash yeah. I'LL BET HI Steve. Your best wars. I. I have. The every run is a hold. Note it. All caps yeah I. don't think the beaches couldn't run. The ball is like literally every time they did. That whole the county. I mean they didn't exactly try. They had four runs in the first half. Or a quarter runs. They had like four holding penalty to. Ron would that's true, but most of the most of the they had twenty three consecutive passing place between the Abdal Jacobs. Look if you can't run a ball out gut molding at him to throw it anyways. Yeah, but it just went five wives fucking five wad just gases evens. So I had a couple Bella check bests. Good. They talked about the. T shirt. He gave everybody in the organization. Like, all the standards are zero. The everybody's standing on the back. It was at zero. Yeah, fucking Belgian move! Can confirm that he's been keeping the replay sock or the replay flag in his socks since Oh two. Yup, yeah, I didn't see that in the first year. I think they had buzzers last year. They did and. Now at the the flag. So he's like that's always been. His spot is sock. I've always found hilariously endearing I'm curious why the sock and went onto pocket. And then they were talking about Scott Paoli called them the son-in-law. And, how he's married to bill's daughter, and I was like what I didn't know that like ballot. Check and Scott Baio that. Google that and is not. They were talking about bill parcells. Oh, that's right yet. Not Scott purely. Is Bill parcells son-in-law the pair incestuous same with What's his name and Tom Brady's sister? In Brady's sister. It's all sorts of cross pollination like that all right. With his chin. Good in the post game. Boy. That that's just spread it out and threw the ball. Hope we get to do more of that. I have the audio here. Let me see if I can actually. Honestly because I have it I, also like. Toxic bursts and we didn't lose this one. We got whipped. After the game as it should be. With Melissa. Out when we talk to Tom Brady yesterday or actually on Saturday, said we are going to kick their butts. Tom, how'd you know that? Yeah well. We you know I think we had a good game plan I think we all, and you know what Israel time for me to practice, though good to come out on our own statement our as a good way to open this thing up. The title steelers defense was ranked number one in the NFL last season. How were you able to exploit them so well? You're right. They do have a great defense. Just a Charlie Weis came over the great plan and I think we we We are in the first game. We run a lot of a lot of huddle. Stuff is tough on a defense conditioning. Wise and you know we kind of got him a Guy Guys Donald Hays. Made an awesome play on the curl out when He. Kinda hooked ran a branch and Christian. Three guys. Are GonNa have came up? The very women. How does anyone love Haredi? He's the fucking short. Love Him, but he's. fucking back these. Realize. Sticks out on that interview is like he didn't say hi mom. That's really didn't soul. Always. My parents. They're like yeah, but he sounded just like. Sounds like networking a little bit here style. I'm just using that as an example to show how awesome Guy Tom Brady is when my thought is like men. He's also usually very gracious to his parents as well. I miss him already. God I miss them. I miss him so much. Yeah, ever not miss him. Worse Brown the fact that you Miss Tom Brady. or Worse I I mean. Everyone. Being holding penalty was my worse. Alright. What the hell is going on, Connor dogs still hungry. My roommates are talking in the kitchen. My audio has been fantastic I'll tell you what Andy Year audio cut out a couple of times. You know here a little. Ricochet knows my roommate telling us. Should he story I'm sorry? Did sound like a good story charge. Yeah that'd be. Maybe we'll get him on the podcasts instead. What what what what are yours? Andy Aren't my best. Was the referee cam? Yeah cameras on the the middle referee, the guy behind like in the middle of the defense like behind the linebacker's which of seeing college they don't have that is. Because College for sure. And One and that. One Thousand two. I can see. They never done it before, but you did it. It was so good it was just looks like chaos when you're in the middle of it. Like the fact that anybody understand what they're supposed to be doing is beyond me when you look at it from that angle was fantastic. I'm a hundred percent and like the college version is cool Shit, you NFL version only be cooler because it only quicker and faster right. Yeah, it'd be great so. That was one of my best the best The fullback from the steelers when no during introductions Dan Creator. UNH Alum. How about that? Oh Awesome, the most famous UNH football player! No we say that gang. Jerry Zuma. Oh, yeah, all right all right. Yeah I'll give you. That also is going to play for the rams. There's an. cornerback yeah, and and Kyle Kyle What's his name, Kyle? Bears two. He picked off manning in a big game. I remember to me Jimmy something. Ravens. Yeah Shimmy, Smith. Kanye's not him. I. Definitely yeah. Zuma was one of them. You're right. But I don't know who this new guy is talking about. Horny Dram. Calling dice yes. I, Know Kyle Corey. I don't even have to. Use Google. there. WAS A. Was Zuma the wide receiver. you tell me you're on Google dot so a debate. Bacterium yes. Now those David Ball, who? WAS A. He broke Jerry Rice's touchdown record touch catch record. When I was there. And then who broke that record in the chip? Kelly days. I don't know who broke. That record is in the NFL right now. He's a white shames. Jeff. Cooper COP. Ship Cooper. Set The college football touchdown receiving record. Was bards maybe. UNDRAFTED free agent who played for the bears, well signed by the bears on the Corey Graham played twelve years in the league. Yeah, he's really good. Yeah, I recognize name. A UNH guy. How `bout that represent about 'em wildcats into the third round pick in Nineteen eighty-two there you go. and my worst was basically the steelers. They had six turnovers and thirteen penalties in their season opener. When they had an entire off season to prepare for the team that knocked them out of the playoffs the year before that silly, just hot fucking mess. and. Off of that, my favorite quote was Because this is the beginning of the new division alignments does the the first year of the AFC North that the? And even with this lost, they were still tied for first place in Madden. His quote was luckily. They're in a bad decision. Because it was the browns and the Ravens were falling apart to. And we'll start division. Redskins. undermined. I did. Turn. When they're when. They're like. 'cause again. They're scraping for content and they're talking about the NFC east. For some reason because that's what John Madden was stuck. On kitting of Bengals I've ear was was the dark time for the bengals and the browser that out because it's the browns. But yeah, and using the steelers would get their doors blown off here. Finish ten, five and one and still. When those people talking Shit we sit on the steelers, being recognized as as one of the. Greatest Just teams and Franchises, we have incredible win loss record against them. I, think we need them like? Like twelve like we won twelve, they've won I mean at some preposterous number. We've always had their number bill. Has Oh I mean it was an easy game plan. Like oh you have all these huge linebackers. Okay, we'll just go no huddle and catch you in the wrong scheme, and just you the fuck out you know it was. Bill Kaur was always always Out Coach by bowel check that's for sure so the Patriots against the steelers and the ballot check our our twelve and four. All of the information is available on Patriots. Dynasty DOT INFO Exactly. That's where I'm getting from fifty four to three thirty eight. and. If you want to. Actually I had a quick before we end. A quick trivia question because I know how much you boy like that. So the Patriots have played the steelers three times open the season. Never lost their three, no and actually average a score of thirty thirteen, which is very close to this one. But there's one team that they played four times to open the season. Do. You guys know who that is the dolphins. No Baltimore. The chiefs notes. Soon as an AFC team. Navy's yes, they play the bills four times. They've lost once and I can guarantee you all I guarantee remember the winds though because I. Sure don't. I'm looking forward to where you're watching that game that I am but. It is. Because I know how the season ends, you know. That's true it. Amen Easier to watch though. So Yeah, Oh and we have a new thing before we go you can actually now leave reviews for our podcast. You don't tell him that. Yeah, no, I WANNA get some feedback so I think. Maybe we'll put together for the second season will put together something where the best or our favorite review gets. A Free T, shirt or something? But if you go to rape podcast, dot, com slash pats pod. You can rate on your podcast listener of choice. They should probably give that. You should give that pitch in the first fifteen seconds when people are still listening. Instead of you know the last minute of the okay. No I I want I. Want I want to know what they really think. I'll have suffered all the way. I won't. Go to leave fucking comment about this. With everything you need someone to listen lists and all the way to this point. You might not get any ratings so yeah. We'll get. We'll be like. Wow. I didn't know that much about Bucko Kilroy. Guys. And speaking of which love mom, Can a witch when they ended. Their partnership is still is in the eagles. The steelers done merged with the Chicago cardinals forming team known as the carpets. dumbest shit ever says pronounced carpets. And they went oh ten. fucking carpet and I found an artist. It's awesome. It's all about like the players from back then like smoking cigarettes on the practice field. Their coach Greasy Neale. Forties must've been so sick. A part time job, wouldn't it? All right boys was there fulltime job, right? And on that note I think we will bring this to a merciful end. Again rate us. Leave us some feedback if you dare and if we get any good ones, will what? What's the? What is it? 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PMS 2.0 467 - The Hall Of Fame Game.. Football Is Officially Here With Chris Long & AJ Hawk

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PMS 2.0 467 - The Hall Of Fame Game.. Football Is Officially Here With Chris Long & AJ Hawk

"A basketball fans. If yours excited for the tokyo olympics as we are you're going to want to sign up for peacock the streaming service from nbc. Universal peacock is the home for us. Men's basketball with every olympic game from the team streaming live the excitement starched lights. Twenty fifth at eight am eastern when the us competes against france. Don't miss a minute of the action and go to peacock. tv dot com and sign up. Now hello thursday. August fifth two thousand twenty one. Big show good show if you like this by the end of the please be friends elephant if not just act like it never ever. Let's go because today's day we've injured all ever since we seat the tampa bay buccaneers in tampa bay buccaneer stadium defeat patrick mahomes in no offense line in the super bowl. We've been waiting. We've been yearning. We've been hoping we've been learning about everything that could potentially happen. This upcoming fall in today is the day where. Nfl football we play on high school. Football was long long road to get here filled with all types of bullshit both from within the sport and outside of the sport. There's a lot of teams that got better a lot of teams perceived to have gotten worse but now we will get a chance to see players that are probably not in the nfl. Play in an nfl game tonight. And i think that is a cause for celebration here. Boss conrad schmidt tone digs in here early to hammered down. Boys will be in with bumpy in the next hour and going forward. It's a beautiful day. It's a magical day because tonight when the steelers in cowboys step onto that football field in canton. Ohio in dave baker. He's looking on from the side in a beautiful sport coat and a suit. It's probably gonna be two hundred degrees with steelers fans packing that place tonight. We're going to get a chance to get a taste of something. That's magical something that carries us through our entire existence. Something that makes us feel better than we feel any other time of the year. Football will be in the air. Nfl football is right around the corner in tonight. We're going to get at least ten to twelve good plays a football and that is what ten to twelve more good. Plays a football than we had one. Yesterday i to join us to chat with us. There is no other human. We'd rather have is the on. Was that that to talk to us about it. Let's get to ladies and gentlemen joining us. Now is a man who's a two-time two time superbowl champion. Just one time winner of the water debate man of the year award. What a fucking loser. Gentlemen chris law all right man good. I did win. The community service award wants Do a lot of good stuff off the field there guys. Hey your hero you. Didn't you didn't win twice the only one at once. He could went back to back but you didn't. He must let off a little bit. But everything you did in the communities you played for and other communities is honorable. I want to let you know somebody that. Watch it on from outside your cool dude. I wanna lena now. Let's talk about your forehead right there. Win bet congratulations for covering. I reach for a hat. I swear the classic like hey. I just picked the t shirt on top of the south of the drawer. It really is win bat dude. I'm sorry i'm not trying to just plug my employer here but Okay so nice hat you know when somebody send you a free hat actually fits you gotta wear it. Well their employer they're also paying you to wear is also. I'm down with a free hat as well and listen. I don't know who i'm trying to kid either. Fan sitting right over my shoulder every single day. Yeah they're not my employer but let's talk about it so your fulltime with wind bet. Is that how that whole thing worked out what they pick up the green light bod and everything else gonna be great and stuff all season for them. Yeah so basically. The nice thing is i signed with blue wire What's that those guys shots them. What's that what's that. Basically the house a lot of podcasts and and essentially a platform so kind nice thing is i can be myself kinda. Keep doing the show how we wanna do. You know how important autonomy is important. You know creative. Control is and they they. They're like we believe in you. We're going to you the reins and then win beds running their stuff through them so a lot of gambling stuff went bad and win bets. Like new and exciting so Get chance to do what i love. Which is pissed. Money away Betting on football games. Hey listen with your brain. You're gonna win money on football. I don't know about that. No listen you know what it's going to be. Though chris in this happened with me after i retired i have a lot of italian friends. Always have and they've been degenerates with shady bookies. For a long long time. I literally stayed out of it because i didn't want to be the pete rose right. We were kind of told. There's literally posters everywhere like. Hey don't fuck and be. Pete rose like don't do you know what i mean. Listen i think. Pete rose maybe is in a comeback trail and everything like that. He's supposed to come on the show last week. He canceled twenty minutes before an pete. Rose don't let me back up for a second here. That sounds like something. Maybe pete rosa do not bingos per. It was almost better than coming on the show. Pete rose rose but that was forced on a lot of us. And i assume through you as well especially with your dad's legacy. And then. As soon as i retired i started dabbling in it and i was like starting to get confident comfortable. It's real money in football gambling. I'm like you don't keep it starts apple. It's when he start betting on it and you don't know in that and pay chris. That's going to happen lizzy. You're going to get into basketball in quebec. I feel it. I know this is where i'm actually. I think i have the opposite problem stuff. I know i fucked up royally so like we think we know football really well right so you gotta bet the entire board got dude. I'm the worst. I got like five. Tv's out there have like spy parlays. Three beds i win or just negated by all that bullshit. You decide the thrill. I don't like i have enough money enough money. No you'll learn. Chris you'll learn you'll learn. You will know a lot of old guys who never did. No no but you're smarter than us guys. Listen and the italians have even caught onto it so even if the biggest degenerates can do it now unless you just want to give money back which i don't think you wanna do you'll learn like okay. I'm not going to pull the trigger on every single game because there is a lot of good lookin' lines out there tonight. Hey all st. Yeah we've been the hall of fame. I'll bet me over. I'm betting overnight. Thirty two and a half points. Sixers going to freak touchdowns have you played in the hall of fame game. What are your thoughts on. Preseason football as a whole kris okay. i who's playing tonight. So i can games check out on this shit. Yeah steelers cowboys. No dactyl ben mason. Rudolph starting for this team is going to be payoffs out there. I loved about this game. One time i had to play in the hall of fame game. it was We were gonna play. I think the browns. And what i saw it on our schedule the spring before i just about cries like just think about having to defend preseason game like six days before you report after report like that's like just jumping off a third story balcony like he's just hit the ground dude just like. There's no time to get ready for that. So i think you know it's a really awesome thing. You know that that they bring all the hall of famers back. My pops gets go. He just got on a plane today to go back and he loves that you know he sees sees all those guys that he respected as a kid you know like his heroes are wearing the same jacket he is and they all hang out and they really respect the about and then to see him on the field is really cool but the the active football part is tough town terribly and i got lucky. We had a lockout. Do you remember that the lockout year. Oh yes so. That was the year we were supposed to do. The hall of fame game. And i was like if this lockout could just end but right after the hall of fame game. That will be great. And that's exactly what happened. Chris you and i both i think We didn't have played hall of fame. Game that year we played in at the year. The field wasn't good enough for us to play on. You remember so. We were both scheduled to play in all of fame game. Guess what neither of us did look. Hey paul dot. Jeff bought who come on man. That's some good fortune right there so Listen preseason as a whole. I do think there's value in shortening it You know i can remember when mike. Oc human your tears acl in preseason. You know it's just such a waste of Of certain dudes to go out there and get hurt and also. It's really hard to get in a rhythm you know how like first game. You don't play a lot of your starters second game you play a little bit more third game you play a lot and then the fourth game. I'd rather just do two games. Get it over with play thirty snaps and let's like just rip the band aid off. You know if we just did too and we moved on the thing that really wears is the practice as much as anything. So if you're doing another week of practice you know preparing for that game. It can really wear you down. And i think it's really hard. You don't glean a lot from preseason every year there's a guy who has like five saxon preseason and everybody's always going to be an all pro. I had one sack in preseason seventy in my career so it really doesn't matter i mean i hate to say that matters for the for the guys fighting for roster hold on so. This is what. I'm going to get into chris because i like the lions. I think there were undefeated in the preseason ear. They want in sixteen and the colts here have always had bad pre-seasons because the team wasn't very deep but the starters were incredible and they didn't want to risk anything like that you're going to say like the the roster spot. I think there should be maybe a game or two games that you play in a position that would have to get into rhythm more you said two games and then there should just be an advertised bubble game like this is a bubble game. We have no idea if these guys are going to be on our team or one of the other thirty one teams or the or maybe selling insurance here. We have no idea what's going to happen in just like kind of noted that way as opposed to because remember. They're selling tickets to these things. In like season ticket. Half the by the tickets for the preseason games in tonight we'll watch. I thought the boys. I drive will be excited. Nfl football's back. And then. I don't even know if i'll make mortar before going. This fucking terrible football. It's not the players fall six days. You're in there. And i try to be listen. I get it a lot of my good buddies and probably yours. Too guys were scrapping for spots. Yes are backed out like shout. Out to guys like darren and special teams guys who came late without the same opportunities. That high draft picks. Did sarla move this camera but You know i. It's just for an older guy for a starter literally. The best part is when you're taken out of the game and you reach down in your sock for that. Tenant dip or that bag of peanuts on the bench and you hang out the second half and you just watch football like. That's my favorite part. So in a sense. I kinda get. Why all like to watch. Football is different But everything else. You're just nervous. You get hurt. One time. After i was coming off an injury jeff fisher had in there like the fourth quarter the third game of the year before so he was trying to see. If i was back i wasn't. I made a big play. And i'm getting up and i'm like motherfucker cheer and all this shit and people like manual really fired up now. I was cussing out coach. I didn't want to be in that thing. So you know that's pretty season. You just gotta you put your head down and get through it. So it's an i. Actually my sources are telling me that. There's a chance that he certain kicker would not be kicking for a certain team. Got to to a hall of fame game injury that had happened to that. Same team's kicker. Who was very fucking good just a few years. Back swish from tours. Acl i think trying to make attack on the as the sweet sweet towards aco and hall of fame game kicker trying to make a tackle. He's out then have sco being there. He misses every kick. i saw. Yes he had game. Toby had a bad run with the steelers. Don jacksonville is great. Hey beef with scopes now. I'm just laughing because like you know so much by the king gave it my yes go. Vr chris gonna help you best. I have some inside information happening on. Tonight's game so the over might be in jeopardy dollars. O the over might be in jeopardy. I'm not her in bed. Unders people are always like life's too short to better bike seems perfect. Life seems perfect. Tibet unders yeah. You seem like a miserable person here. You say yourself early camp sebolka hit ball defense. Has the these exactly. Because i others betters in there so that's good. Yeah so i've watched you know a lot of football pre-season football. I think that is something that a lot of punters kickers and snappers now granted. You have to take advantage of that opportunity. But i've been very lucky to be like front row to watch basically every aspect of nfl. Football now yeah. Preseason nightmare for me. Okay presents a. I'm going out there and fourth quarter with three. Mcdonald's workers blocked on the right side. Okay i mean it is a little bit nightmare but early in training camp in. Utah me if i'm accurate in my observation. It's always see ball gibson. Defense kills early. Kills early in enor- unless the offense is a veteran group. That's been around for a long time. It feels like defense does run. the show. early is that because the scheme doesn't really matter as much on the defensive side news kinda gotta run around and just find the ball and go full speed. It doesn't matter what happens. Or i think a lot of times early in camp like something. You alluded to something. Being more complex like offensive blocking teams are more. Protections are more complex than you know. We've got a nine seven three and a shade like or we have to nine or going or like. Hey maybe you got Blitzer in the b. gap and we've been drilling that little thing all day but on the other side. They're learning like seven iterations of action. And you know there's more like throwing and catching the football handoffs like stuff like that false starts the snap count like early in training camp. I do think that the defense of naturally sets the tone. And then when i you get to that first preseason game if you ask like position players i feel like at least in my experience that the offense was always good for going on some long drive like the beginning of. Because you're so tired like there's no way to get in football shape unless you play like real football and that's the that's the catch. Twenty two of shortening. The preseason is like. I don't care how long or how tough your campbell as up downs. You're doing whichever totally cool with over there. The by the way the media called him down it was awesome. They said what down ups they call them down down up. And so the ball to comment on on the ability of these coaches without seeing Coach game but like. I think you're gonna be gassed. That first preseason drive like some of the most tired. I've ever been has been that drive. Where every third hour running basic shit. Because you don't wanna show anything right so offenses are kind of converting you're hired. They're they're not having to run the football like you. You know what i mean. So it's funny. The first day of camp. I think the defense zones the first preseason game at least i felt like we gave up a lot of big drives in the beginning and then also those second third fourth quarters especially in this first game and for the steelers cowboys these first two games. You know. there's all the young guys in those guys. They're dead tired. They're doing like sixty seventy play. Some guys on the defensive side. they're playing a law and especially in. They're supposed to block for me by the way and they've never they've never done that and their entire life and have no idea. It's a lot easier to block upon by the way then to block four point for me. Yeah yeah preseason was. Give me the fuck outta here. I hope to survive. But i want to say this though pat like i was pretty i mean i. I didn't feel a lot of stuff on the field. You can't play. But if i had to block a punt i'd be kinda fucking afraid of your foot. Thank you thank you. I mean there's got named bomb. You know brahman brahmin brian. Raymond o'brien bremen's an absolute psycho is his head not this large. He's the guy. Has the guys alleged if you can hear his super bowl speech before we went out to play the patriots like i don't remember much about what he said but it was definitely like we were playing call of duty not going to play a football game. He just insane bro. He was like a special teams demon. He was terrorist for the brand. And that's what he was. He was the first ever terrorist for the brand. He is he's as big white. Dude is head is massive as long hair. He's got a forty pack. I think in he dies built like you know. It's like an upside down a down to the way she. Yeah that's cool thing. I'm built like a rectangle as hard as i work is much is i cut wait. Yeah he's like upside down a he looks like he stepped off of a motorcycle and he just runs out on the field like employees decapitates people. Yeah and blocked punts. He had string there. I think of like two to three straight years where either got a deflection. Tried to break my leg or blocked the plan all it was like before the game too. I think we're cutting here zimmer. My fucking leg by the way. No penalty was called here. You see i do end up kicking that thing like thirty three yards. I think my leg laps around his leg but he was so nice that he actually conformed around my needed. He actually was like a little nicer the very nicely them to do that. He did say immediately upon us both being on the ground that it did hurt in asked me. If i was okay and i said yeah fucked in look at the revenues no flag are we kidding. We even kidding right now. I mean guys guys that look like they're biker. Gangs have compassion to. He was the man. Hey he was the man. I wish i could've heard that speech. Well it's out there. I think it's out there on youtube dot com and stuff. So i'll check it out and we can. We talk about the state of the nfl media to do that by part of that part of that. Yes that's kind of a battle that him having right now. Because i remember hearing media people say you know the media's doing blah blah blah and i'm like well you're in the media and we're i guess you and i are pretty large parts of medium alan the internet leeson's very lucky to do so so whenever we point fingers at other members of media. I think. We kinda sound like non-self self-aware douches. But i would like to say that i think the media covering things. There's a lot of people forgetting about what football is like in the. I think they're trying to paint like a fairy tale world of what football is and people have been in. Football like should be able to say no. That's not what it's like for instance. Motorcity dan campbell up there. The kim saying that he loved seeing his two young guys. Get after it in. Everybody's in this guy is a main now that comes after the need biting and everything like that. That is been dan campbell and being his own self but like fights. Football is a physical sport. It's violent sport. One hundred degrees people running. That's going to happen. The people in the giants now push ups. I would never do in a million years. But the fans like joe judges lost a team because there is a fighting danny pena. It's like no. This is what happens like. Hey this is what happens in football. I feel a lot of people forgot that one of the get on a microphone. What's that all about chris. Well listen. I know you're not doing it either. We're not paying with a broad brush or anything it's just there's a general when it comes to things like that everybody likes to sound smart and say like we're above that we bite anymore. Neanderthal football coaches in the end earth. All you know. This is archaic The problem is i think a lot of that commentary goes on twitter where like ninety five percent of people didn't play and that's no offense like i think media members can do a great job without having played agree this stuff when i'm painting with some of our best media members who are the most insightful. Didn't play you know like bill barnwell. My dog shot him out. You know Guys like that didn't play. He knows like so much about the game. It's just there's guys and girls who you know. Look at things. And i'm afraid to not overreact to this sound bite from dan campbell. Because florio who i like. You know. Misquotes zimmer you know somebody takes quote out of context or we all agree that this guy was terrible higher because he does stink like a terrible hired detroit. The guy came out of nowhere so a lot of people are thinking. what are they doing. But like for instance dan campbell. There's been this narrative that he's going to fail because he's a harto and i don't even think people know what a harto is in the nfl. Pardo's don't smile. Harto's don't talk to the media. 'harto's don't joke with their players harto's don't share. You know. i mean. Dan has done all those things. And i think like if you wanna know if players are gonna like coach not ask a fucking player and players that i've talked to really like the guy i'm not saying he's going to be a great coach. I have no idea but he would be a perfect example of the way. We've kinda like we've a stigmatized football guys saying to the point that if we even sniff it automatically the guy's gonna suck if he wins games. People are going to be obsessed with his stick or whatever it is. Oh yeah i by his stick. Because i think he's authentic now. Coach will see. I don't know but he's a perfect example of everybody kind of piling on and i know people didn't like the higher and listen. I the rooney rule thing. It's been really rough. You know for black coaches watching and this guy. In many other guys seem like we're coming out of nowhere like out of the woodwork. Where they find the scott. But he's coached under sean payton You know he got experience. He's he's dealt with both sides of the locker room and guys love him and you know what if detroit wants to make that call. Maybe they're to be hitting the reset button and a year or two. But it's not like the last fifteen coaches have worked out very well for them outside. Jim call while i agree and they ran him out of town because he wasn't good enough. I not gonna get him. The fuck doesn't smile either. The guy. I love jim caldwell. But he's awesome. I don't know how many coaches wanted to teach like i know in. I assume the common thought is everybody who's coaching wants to be head coach in the nfl. I agree but i think now at this point we're seeing a lot of players take a little bit less money to stay in good positions. I think you're seeing a lot of good coaches potentially change your strategy on where they wanna go how they want to go. Because of what. Christopher said how in one year they might be firing you your whole family in a move and everything like that. So i'm not saying that there wasn't other coaches that were maybe more qualified to get line job. I i assume that there definitely was. But i think dan campbell is like the perfect person for the lions job. I'm not sure that was very desirable position for anybody. He's body completely. And i found that very deep of you saying like people don't even know har- does in football world because i think immediately when i look at 'em like okay. This is a meathead but then one of you listen to him speak. It's like oh it's a deep thinking compassionate meatball. yeah in lahti dealmaker meatballs. Like listen like the. I get people now. I don't know if he's going to get like building. An offense around jared goff. I dunno if he's going to put his coaches in the right position. I'll tell you what he has done that staff that they That they kind of put together is like the coolest fasten history of of football like these are all ballers and they're all cool. You know my man. Deuce is up there from philly You know. Brad's up there rando. La and they're just cool and he did a great job of assembling a staff. Now it's going to be his job to manage the situation. If he can't he won't be a lot but you know give the guy a chance. Maybe he's not the asshole that you think is because you're afraid to to re tweet something that you think is a little cave manish. That's his style and you listened. Caveman has won a lot of football games as a lot of a lot of people don't even like the harto thing like some of the media's favorite people are harto's and they don't even know it like that's the thing like the media doesn't and i'm including myself in this i was looking at the nba. Or something. and i didn't play. And i was like well. I think this guy looks kinda dig or this guy. Looks like he's cooler. This guy's humble like we don't really know we weren't around these guys. We weren't in locker rooms and the you know a lot about the game of football without having that kind of six sense about people and teammates and what players are into or not into. I think a lot of times. There's a disconnect between the the media. I large what players think i would say. I think that is a very very true statement. And if he has success you know what every other owners going to be looking for as soon as we need a big deep thinking. I need i need to do. Black is man and what he's saying to black. Pike block shots two shots and each black even knew only thing. I don't like about dan campaign the entire world by the way. There's no like dan campbell. Trend has got only made one. Dan campbell plug. You can't go like after he succeeds if he does. You can't be like we're the other day one But it's unfortunate. He's an addict. Because i found out caffeine addict that that illicit drugs he's drinking a hundred ounces a day in the morning that's in the morning. We're talking about the level of addiction that you were referring to is alarming. But hey hey. By the way a lot of caffeine addicts have won a lot games. No doubt i used to be one of them. I'm just. I have to comment because life is better without it. Well it depends on if they win or lose. I'll tell you what that's the only thing that's going to depend upon whether or not life is good over there. We're talking to chris long time superbowl champion. Only one time walter. Pain and shame. shame ahead. Caller yeah chris. Pat alluded to the pushups. Joe judges making players. Do and joe looney actually retired. The second thought he heard by the ad to do it when you were in new england already established in the league was a time where he kind made players do laps or do push ups and everyone was like a bill. Come on man. No i i honestly like. I didn't think new england's camp was that crazy like that hard you know. I think every every organization run camp differently. Every coach in lord knows. I had seven coaches in in Saint louis alone. So i mean i got i. It ran the gamut. My toughest camp was like prec. Bay to as with steve spagnuola. So i after that it was like after the cbi that we were talking about earlier. It was all downhill. So even when i got doing when i was just like man i wish you'll have more windows in the facility. That was my biggest. Like it's like a compound but you know. Some of my favorite coaches made me do up downs. Greg williams one of my favorite coach again immediate. Unlike greg williams some players might not like them some players to walk through hell form. So you're one to make us do forty uptown. So you'd practice whole summer for having to do forty up downs before team periods and then when we get the camp we'd get to twenty five and he both whistle. You know like a big joke like so is basically you practice it all summer and then you didn't even have to pass it. If it looked like you were in shape the take the head off. The rest of the snake will die. Guy was making you guys do forty up fourteen periods. Are you serious listen. We had a. We had a group that was we were. We were hell on wheels so we didn't mind doing it like it was like. Hey do twenty five. On of blow the whistle. I will say this with the joe judge thing. I don't mind pushups. And i love that. Loonie retired. 'cause i think that's great whenever anybody has the balls to walk out of facility. I think you're a legend like like bontate day this all time legend for coach. Always say if you don't want to be here leave. I love the guy that's like. Okay you said it because that is the last go ahead. Sorry no i was gonna say that's a classic quote in. There's always the people. The new coaches are saying. Hey fallen asleep at a meeting. Just stand up. It won't be a problem that somebody stands up like sit the fuck down. Don't want to be here. Leave you go from standing the leaving But i i look at it. Like i'm fine with doing that to the players but i don't get the making the coach's job thing and i know like players don't often advocate for coaches. But they do work really hard. And if i was a assistant coach and my coach made me run. I would probably not be an assistant coach from all. That might have happened last year with the italian offensive line coach and by the way the players scar. Now colombo joe. Judge allegedly got into a fistfight. Allegedly last year with that was the big guy. Joe could probably his book colombo was not only big but he's in a metal band. She so i didn't know that attaches the odds more in his favor. Because i think he's also six hundred ten to six send guy than like a six one guy. I'm since one what you would ratify colombo compliment oculus chris. Chris can i ask off to god. You said hockey. Look not really. Yeah go ahead. Chris i wanted to ask you about kind of your position so tj wa depre- play together forever. They were great commentary. What happens when one of those guys they leave and now you don't have the guy on the other side like how you guys deal that it's funny. Yeah it's true. I mean like me and robert. Quinn got to rush together. You know years where he was doing. Nineteen on like a bad team like gaza mutant but i mean that was great but the guy. That really makes a difference. I think both those guys would be fine. I do think buds a really great all around player. I hope that tennessee does enough to accentuate all the good things he does. And i hope they don't just say like we're just gonna evaluate you on if you get ten sacks 'cause that's not exactly always who he is I do think an inside rusher helps more than you know an end on the other side. I think so because in one thing is when you have two different russia's really nice to have to russia's that have different styles you know there's a few examples of that around the league but then you can run high low. One guy goes speed. One guy can go power. You don't want to both be. It's going speed at nine yards run into each other. It looks like a shitty car crash. So it's good to have varying styles but more than anything. I think it's the inside guys. Because they make the tackle kind of peer down at them they make the tackle titan. And leave a hand in there. If you're playing next to fletcher cox you know. That's gonna change things if you're playing next to donald which one of my biggest regrets is. I got hurt when he got drafted height. You can run naturals off those guys. Like show at fletcher cox gets off the ball which he always does if he beat your old ass off the ball. Then you just go around him if he goes to power and this is why it's nice to have an experience rusher next to a guy inside like everything's an option. And if you're looking inside your periphery sees that massive dude in the b. Gap raising hell and you can kind of adjust that person And also you can work a lot with that person pre snap but a lot of his natural stuff so i think the inside guy makes more difference than the guy on the other side of you. Steelers need to bring back. Casey hampton if they want. Tj watt guys. They got in there all hayward's there. I completely forgot. He picked up an offensive. Lineman who is very good could be in the hall of fame. Okay that that that often is going to be in the hall of fame only going into his third year at this point clinton nelson. I mean there was there. Are you talking about quitting nelson. Yeah i mean shoe in for the whole fair shoe in for the hall of fame. Maybe great of all time when it's all said and done odd. Maybe i don't know this might be a little anything going on here. But i do think he's the real deal. I remember when he pulled in philly. The first time. I replayed the coast with him on a lot of times on those counterplay as i just set my feet and kind of like just shoulder. A guy who's pulling. I took five hop steps. And i was on the hash i was like fuck is. This guy is of steve hutchinson. There's only one guy with a head. The size of steve hutchinson's i've ever played other than steve. Hutchinson it was quinn nelson. Hey he's gonna get broke it off here as he deserves but cam what kim was able to do to him just on one particular play. It affected our season forever with. Oh yeah i remember that. I remember that and late cam and to it too. It's been a guy who's been massively underrated. And they do a lot of different stuff there. So it's like you know they can be multiple Those guys to move around and play different roles. I really i think. Tj going to be fine. I think buds are going to be fine as long as tennessee uses him correctly. All right ties got this last question. We can't thank you enough for your time here chris. You're the man. what are you going. Well you got you got a guitar. You got an unplugged situation. I don't play but that's a much i'd be signed by chris stapleton all. That's the guy that did that. Justin timberlake and hang. Y'all need to get some steel drivers going on here. You know they'll drivers that's chris stapleton zoll bluegrass band. Everybody this listening. Go blessed yourself. A shot out shot up chris stapleton in a bluegrass band that he's got what he did he wrote. He wrote a bunch of songs for people for a long time but they say you're not attractive enough to be the country musician so he had to write songs everybody then he came out and he was better than fucking everybody. Just country music executives don't like printing fucking money guys like one of the greatest voices of the modern era and he's got five different kinds of music. Yeah he's awesome. Go ahead chris. Were you as surprised as a lot of the media and some former players that aaron rodgers teammates didn't bar him from returning to the packers locker room like that ever happen in one a year off seasons. We're like a guy that he had like a messy contract situation and you basically told my k. Fuck it we don't we don't want you back. You're you're not coming in the locker. I was shocked that they didn't borr- the door. Nothing nothing says. I want to win the super bowl more than like locking aaron rodgers out of the building so like i just i just It's funny like and you know this pat but you sat around lockers when dunes or like sitting out like the third corner. It'll be like dude. I'm trying to get my money and get your money. Hey you know like the third corner okay. So usually the third corner thinks he's worth more than he is No sense to nichols. I think nichols are actually more realistic than just the corner. They're gonna get that. You lump them with corners. Though because now nichols its own position. I mean you're gonna get you're gonna piss people off the matter what you just said right there so yeah sorry. I respect the the position. It's just competent is all. I'm saying so a lot of times they're going to be like your more ten million and like go get your money like i say that to say when aaron rodgers quite possibly you know if we have the goat and best ever conversation. I like the way some people have framed that with with brady's the goat rogers might be the best ever Like the guy that just makes you go. Wow you know. I think when you have a guy like that on your team. Don't you want to win the super bowl. Don't you want him back in the building. I mean backyard bottom a golf cart. Like how's that seem to be going like seems like everybody's pretty happy to have him back And you know. I think the guy who's really on the hot seat and green bay. You kinda wanna be randall. Cobb that you kind of don't want to be off. You don't play well this year. They're going to be like we. Trojan war over randall. Cobb fucking war of randall. Cobb cool and terrifying. It is to be read okay. Listen i i don't think that is the Exact way to describe the situation but random. He is the picture like aaron being like. Yeah this is the first of many in. If i think randall is gonna play well but you're one hundred percent. I think our first thoughts were like reynolds ball is going to have to be does. And you know like you. And i were talking off. Line pat but like you talk about. Oh this some people have said. It's not a championship locker room or summer that it's the maybe it's not like maybe the chemistry's messed up. No i think the chemistry and the locker rooms fine. I think the chemistry between upstairs in the locker room in great there. And i think that what aaron did and this was really good of him as he was laying out situation she went to bat for players in the past. I mean that's the kind of guy. He is where he thinks about his teammates. And you know you could see the most of the grumblings in the off season where like disatisfaction with upstairs whether it was you know. Scenario smith is an absolute dog. And you should never let him leave the building You know i mean golly. It's like pass rush porn. It's awesome but like area smith. Those guys that were kind of bitching. They weren't bitching about aaron rodgers. Like guys can play for the name on the back of the jersey. And by that. I mean like all your teammates names. I don't mean like everybody makes it an air beefing. Either you play for the name on the bag jersey or you play for the name on the front of it. No you can play for your teammates to and i think what you're going to have their even if they're you know i still afraid to say his name guten You know even if you're pissed at brian g you know like we don't plan for aaron rodgers and scenarios all those guys. I mean you're playing for each other. So i think that team's going to be close. A trent dilfer describes it as a bunker mentality. And i think that is such a great way to describe that and i think the locker room by the way after watching aaron's doing for different reasons for me and for you. I think your guy that you loved it just walks out of the building. Somebody that is looking right at their boss. Who's fucking up saying. Fuck you like. I have a lot of respect for that. That is something you guys are going to have. Respect for what he's saying for former players guys are gonna have a lot of respect for maybe their futures like jordan. Love is watching. This potentially going like hey thank you so if i end up being the player that was traded up in the first round to be maybe my life will be different here as well. I think the team will love it even more. I'm happy you do. We have to get you out of here. I can't thank you enough man. You're the best of course man Sorry about the billboards. Now you get your money to get your money dude. Yeah get your money do dude you gotta do ladies and gentlemen only one time. Come on only one. how many. How many years were you in the league. eleven times. He did not win only bad. It's really bad. Only once was either alternate man of the year but but hey great host of the green bay pa. Very deep thinker well-spoken. Only one wants batman at one time. Ladies and gentlemen of chris long actually thank you man he was out. He does have something to do. We overstate we did the whole thing. Yeah he's a very busy guy very is he not insanely busy out. There have glitterati vertex. He's everything we get a chance. You know wow that conversation was happening. There was a lot of text messages going off in my phone. You i gave low peak. See there towards the end of it. What the hell's going on the nfl. Right now Their views and we have some breaking news. First of all. Thanks crystal you there there. There's been a lot of activity in the group text for people who weren't in the conversation. I literally look down but was like five minutes ago six months ago and there is. This has to be a big deal. He's got good news bad news for you. I'm always let's go with the good news. Good news your old friend. Alberto riverine is retiring from the nfl. Blow we don't own this person direct. I hate out hell of a run out. Thank you for everything you did. Okay for the game and your services couple of things you did that. I didn't necessarily enjoy a lot of things after learning more information about what you're being told to do versus what my expectations are vastly different. Thanks for having. It's a shame match russia game. We'll miss you. Miss will forever. The good news is we gotta get to a break. Don't hear bed okay. No those like good. You're going right into a break. I'm saying chris long we go right into a break. what happened. Your better friend wall anderson is him now so they won't with somebody older than alberta river. Ha ha hey what ball. Walnut have actual beef all right wall. Ni- tried to ruin my life into london. Gay godunov sides on me when my cadence was not offsides at all we should have been able to go to actually from the one yard line on an extra point for the fifteen that viteri actually had to kick the thirty eight yard extra point instead of a thirty three yard extra point because my cadence okay and they had a d. Tackle that was very large. Okay and he was doing damage in you. Know he was he jumps offsides. Fly gets called all of a sudden. There's a meeting happening. Okay and matt overton or long snapper actually pokes his little ear into the ref meeting. All the other ref say false. Start ninety whatever bubba. Walt looks at them. Looks at me and goes. i'm calling it on number one. False start kicking team number one now whatever. It is five yard penalty. So now viteri mad at me. He's pissed off me. I hate walt at this point then. I have to be reminded that walked in. Let us use any of the broken. Football's in london. Either he actually had us kick brand new fucking football's because the broken football's through to the side into something else with so while. I have personal beef. But let's just assume he can't be worse than what has been happening in there but there is a chance that this was not a good higher. There is a chance that the reviews that we've all questioned on twitter. Remember comes together for any matter on the same side of things. There is a lot of times when these reviews happen and people are challenging things that the entire internet even the team that will get screwed over from a penalty being overturned all on the same side. And somehow the messaging that came out of alberta river ron's review command center was the complete opposite of that. What are we doing. Then he got people. Why are we challenging. It's taking more time data out outta yada. It's bad for the game. Why are we doing technology while using technology. I'm like we make the game right. Let's utilize technology. We got four k. Cameras eight k. Cameras they moved to. What seven thousand frames are second or second utilize that for the good and i thought there was a chance that maybe the technology was to advance for the people that are maybe looking at it. Sure took a long time now. We do have the hawkeye review system thing. And it's not just television producers deciding what replace the review system are people are allowed to look at which is mind boggling that that's been happening for so long. Just learned to that. What is it. It's the it's the synchronized synchronized motion replay. Yes whatever it is. They're going to be able to see all the clips of the play on one particular screen view. Should get better. you would think it would have got better. They wanna use new technology. Maybe it was somebody who could probably be able to utilize it in a very efficient quick fashion and also maybe has bright eyed bushy tailed. Younger is in this whole thing. Make this thing speed up quicker instead to get the oldest. That was ever on a field and a guy that i personal beef with. Which makes all about me. I'm sure there's a lot of people that have beaches won't but He has to do better than what it has been. Hopefully the nfl to work well on the bright side. If it doesn't at least we got a guy to aim the vitriol billions and billions of dollars. How is that now. He's been around game long-time k contributions for decades and decades. Very thankful for that k- very thankful for anybody that especially at that position where nobody likes. Nobody likes you. I appreciate it. But i think towards the end everybody said okay. We don't want on the field and then now they're like you know what let's put won't church fucking every. What are we doing. 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I wanted to put it out there. Like hey where potential and we kinda just kinda move right by it right yesterday. I got a little bit arrogant. You know. I got a little bit clock. I we started hammer where like hey was eighteen. And four in his last twenty two. And we're making these all public bets by the way this isn't like a post and afterwards he's calling it out is. I thought it was potentially going to happen. But i want to let you know what happened. Last night isn't dumpy now. Just because there was one little hurdle in a run that has been majestic. Doesn't mean you're going to get on the other side of that thing finish strong. You're about to get back into that heater that you were once on for five six months straight. But don't you worry about last night. Bumpy we'll bounce back tonight and we got forty starting this weekend. I mean let's go. Hey speaking of forty. Hey messy ain't goin' barcelona's long contract. It is the message situations getting. I guess it's further than it's ever been a part on these negotiations. I was told by our soccer expert. Dumpy he was a free agent to become a barcelona at a like sixty percent reduced salary. After winning the coveted. Go down there now. he's not going back. You said the entire league was pitching in money to keep them there. What's going on as you pissed off at the entire country turns out when you ask him entire league to pay guy salary to play for just one team might not work out that way so the rest of the teams were saying. We're not going to help to pay for the best player us. We'll pay for it. Okay so hold on. Because that's why we were so surprised by soccer. Wow people are paying to keep the superstar in the league now. That was just all one big case. Not real feels as if soccer's awesome. There's so many dramatics you know. Everything's the world cup. Basically the storylines behind baseball here. I mean it is soccer's fascinating and see how you guys get hook line and sinker into that thing. All the way. If he's available the chicago fire need to get five hundred million dollars goal donner as house. Oh all oh yeah. Getting united rentals. That's right yeah you'll save martinez own goal score and i talked to him and he doesn't speak much english. Oh it had to go through a translator But i made a couple of times and it was an interview for seek out there. I went to seek became the main ticket or for mls and we got there and everybody else talking to foresee kika. None of them spoke english. So i spoke to four or five different translators. Tim howard came through at the end of the day. Full uniform on. Stop by just to talk to me. He said was very nice for him. He'd probably said that to everybody but He was awesome he laughed. He whistled here a lot of energy. I feel like we played bop it. You know great game is is a great way. Yeah can't speak the same language like let's go ahead and get everybody kind of gets it. He was electrifying. He's player now. Khania is living in his stadium. They're shooting up like the pope has been decided upon or whatever donde might be coming out soon but get messy on the atlanta united. They'll be spilling up. That's finger stadium. I guess connie out if you don't have to pay the transfer fee. I'm not sure if you do. There's no transfer feet another team could just pay messy fucking absurd saying the portland timber. Exactly the seattle sounders crew. Maybe hey stay rondo. Fc you could you imagine when macy's playing the mls were winning the copa keva. And the europe's who and the world cup all my god. The soccer community is gonna throw a fit shadow expert. Joseph martinez scored two goals yessiree for atlanta united. Acm play bop it wants. I think somebody did us who else there's a mohammed the guy for seattle was sets dempsey. Now autopsy was not. It was like the. Mvp the league. I think it was a pretty interesting. These translators to did not deliver my questions in the fashion that i it actually turned into me question their delivery i need a little bit more energy whenever you ask that question election and then all of a sudden the personnel is understanding. What i'm saying so there. We had quite an interesting thing. But we're soccer. Experts in america's about to be the greatest. That's awesome i. Can't he's going to be in the. Mls wayne rooney. Just like david beckham. rahab ebrahim vich. Just like all the greats. Have done messes comedy. Mls cristiana is probably not far behind. Say hello to the new world power and soccer. that's us Speaking of soccer expert. Out of ohio. Ladies and gentlemen. Aj hawkins shirt. Now why what's up. I do appreciate the fact that you go a actually first off. I forgot i didn't mean to cut you off. But congratulations walt anderson. Sixty eight years young. Sixty eight is. The new twenty-five dude is gonna kill it congrats. The wall and his family hopes riverine gets a good gig. Maybe with a network afterwards so good luck water. I can't wait to see an action. Hopefully tonight thank you. Aj boy thank you. You're here for that you're good steward of the game. You know what i mean. You're you're very nice to say things like that especially to somebody that is committed five decades of their life to nfl. Football which walt anderson has done. I mean it is fascinating how this man has committed so much of his time to the game in to the league to make it what it is. We appreciate walt for that. I mean don't we we thank you. Well we appreciate wall for that. But i think there is still time for wall to look commission rating is. Say i ain't the fucking right. Gotta do this. You know what. I mean i i think walt could potentially maybe maybe waltz try out audition like robert griffin. Two thirds was better than they've ever seen before now that would mean he would have to be better than bertha river on which is going to be tough. Yeah that's gonna be tough to do but also blandino back there. I think pereira you know so maybe love is potentially going to be but this is a bad decision especially on hall of fame game day. Like what are we even. How does this happen. How does this happen. Aj you came in here. Pandering obviously to walt anderson family. Which i'm assuming he's a good guy fucked me over. But i'm assuming he's a good guy. I bet that's the case. How is this the decision. That is made jess okay. Gimme some other options. Who else would you have this. Give you any ex-player well. This is just like anytime. Coach gets hired to be a head coach somewhere and it was terrible job like art. Would you please tell me who i should hire. Or if you're saying hey you need a fire this coach. Yeah maybe but can you give me a list of candidates that will be better than this person. Here we go. Here's an empty sheet of paper. All right this is a better fuck. I wish they have just kept like a three man. Like a rotating thing. It's just what wall. It's going to be great k. He is seen every situation. He remembers back when the nfl players were working on the side. Not just in time. He's been around a long time. Okay i think it came in the league in ninety six. I don't know if guys had side gigs back. I don't believe it felt more. Like seventy six with the way. He was calling games in two thousand. Okay that so. I just think there had to have any ex player. How come there isn't but ex players and should be the ones that they are putting a pipeline into officiating for. There's there's already an issue with ex players going potentially broke or post football insurance like what life is after the league. I don't know why that isn't something in granite reps are not going to be happy to hear that because there's people that commit their lives the high school officiating and peewee officiating gets college officiating. Get to a big conference get to the nfl. I- understand that there is a pipeline. But i don't fully understand why we're not just teaching ex players. That are maybe in their forties thirties. Guys at maybe love. The game regretted the game but can't do anything. Let's just let's get them in there and especially in the position. That technology is going to be used. Why wouldn't you want somebody. That is much more comfortable with the technology in a position where you're going to have to utilize technology for a large portion of your job. Maybe waltz maybe wants to drive in. You know look maybe. He's he wants from t nine into the full keyboard and a beautiful fashion. And he's on he. Maybe a big time gamer. And everything like that. But i think that's a big part of the job i don't i don't know man i mean maybe here. So let's say that the nfl pr team puts out a video of what on his twitch stream tonight playing against billy to does that make you feel better much better hundred percent much better because there's a lot other things get on it you know. They're watching they should get on it. Then you'd get out in front of this thing get people on wall side and there's other things that that person has to do other than just the reviews you know what i mean. There's a lot of other things in what will probably be great adapt because he does the job entail. Do we know everything that is that is in the job description. So you know every week. There's that position Penalty of How they describe it what is what. They're enforcing the point of emphasis one of emphasis nowadays so every week. There's a point of emphasis. I think the standard protocols games. I think they have to are they scheduling as well. I'm not harm central or the. Ib what all do they. I'm not sure if it's just review things if walk was brought in just a review things. We're all gonna see exactly how he does. I guess we're all going to see exactly how it does. And we're all probably gonna say but now we got that new hawkeye technology. Aj hawkeye. we got their new hawkeye technology. I think if it's anything like what the xfl had where they had what seemed to be gamers utilizing it who also new football. It's probably a madden players that xactly that you teach them the rules that they could even zoom it. Have you ever seen these games. For instance we had fact intel in here all right. His name is bryce fat center. That's his name. He's a coach right now. For a call of duty team he was professional. Call of duty player him utilizing the call of duty player with his two thumbs. Looked like it was an actual fucking human running jumping cutting. He was jumping over. People's heads stabbing them then zooming in somehow getting a replay of that in backing out of it then throwing their done. Maybe maybe even kicking while he walks by and then he was just often running. I tried to the thing. It's like a herky-jerky thing. It's just there has to be somebody better to handle the brand new technology. That i might be wrong. I hope i'm wrong. Because i am in favor of challenges and review systems. But it feels like we're gonna continue. Just fuck this up every single year and it might because commissioner doesn't want reviews to happen anymore so maybe it's like hey let's make them so bad and so terrible. That people don't want to do it so we can go back old school. Maybe that's case. I'm sure i don't get this at all. That'd be great way to speed up the game but if it's not a player what about a coach like a former coach not going there and at least give out can't work technology. Have you ever seen a coach. Turn a computer not even not even worth technology just sitting next to him and be like okay. I assume yeah like when pat said former players. I would assume they'd have him as consultants like in the room kate in watkins. Hey what are you seeing here. What are you thinking. You'd bounce ideas off each. Yes so perry. For your whole. I think he was coach at one point and now he is in it as well. So coaches are represented in their refs represented in their but players aren't represented in there. And i don't understand how or why. That is the case. But i just saw for instance i feel like i'm super positive about wrestling. I just want them to be treated like everybody else. They are a massive part of the game. I actually think they should have pro bowl. Foods rep should have bro votes there on the field in the game but they have such a big part of the game. We have to make sure that they're good like it is respect i can never do. But let's let's move along thanks. That was why you like. Do fifteen minutes. I was trying to talk to you about something else. And he said i was trying to. I was trying to move on from it and you just kept going trigger. how sure. Hey how are you by the way you watch these sons a bitches thrown those sixteen pound rocks last night. Hey aso somebody. All of a sudden gets on the bandwagon after you just trash them on the air draw backpedal into them. Did you nick text each other last night. And say hey. Let's at the same. Take on this thing because texas immediately utes. I saw your tweet. Something krahn was going down all these killing. The whatever you tech passer was like okay. Yeah of course because the guys win the gold. Now pats on the side listen ryan trouser is a powerhouse aright cries or throws this rock further than anybody in the history of throwing this lock. This rock has been thrown for thousands of fucking years. There's a texas cowboy who looks like he just got out of professional wrestling match. After throwing these things who's taken the tapeh greatest of all time. Most explosive human. Of all time i was pumped for him and kovacs. I believe kovacs to americans golden silver. How you doing keep moving. While i was watching it though fucking tanks these these tanks and their the olympic testing thing right zodda. Whatever they can't be on. I don't know how these dudes are as explosive as they are without taking anything they look like. They're powerlifters olympic lifters. There obviously very explosive. I just don't understand why nobody told kraus's getting a fucking three point stance. Tackle the goddamn quarterback you know how this is what this guy crausser. I think he gets his hands on your fuck. I mean he's very athletic. Twohey spinning around with house. This guy not attacking especially in texas. What happened my appreciate that. He's he's gotta have great feat a lot of times you saw you see a big dude. Someone thinks oh that could be a starting tackle and he has awful feet and can't walk. You know this guy has great feat already. So that's the one of the biggest things you see him spend yesterday he never. He never gets a penalty. Either they say he gets better and better every single throw and then to keep up with all these other. I still do not completely understand. Why shoplifting all right. I'm just gonna say watching it last night. When crossers stepped in there it was electrifying. And when kovacs got in there it was awesome looking at these yoked fucking guys and being. How're you doing that without taking any sauce. I mean there's zero. Do you remember you remember mary. Jones shetler the sprinter. But her husband at the time ex-husband. Now he was a shot-putter he getting busted to. She got busted for big pd scandal but that he did later but he is. You wanna talk about a tank. The dudes impresses listen at six seven. Three twenty s kratzer. There's i'm looking pedia. There is no mention of of football anywhere his life so maybe by the way congrats. Principal comes from a family. Throwers grandpa is in there. As well they talked about it. Hey great ball. Time the trouser family in kovacs. I believe what brooks record before trouser broke four or five of them and self in consecutive throws he broke records. I guess this guy. Big old fucking cova cowboy hat on the american flag risky looked like he literally like a guy getting out of fucking legal fighter football game afterwards and he lost his hat on his first one broke the olympic record through it further than anybody else while hats on his face. I mean it's unbelievable. But i have no idea how nobody had this guy lineup with his left foot a little bit further back than his right foot and then just hey just all we need to do is just get to a spot and then use it. He's the most explosive person. The olympic sport of being explosive has ever seen he had been able to put those hands. All yeah i. I just like i should invite him to camp. I think coaching nfl invite him but can't think did. Did he really more no not really. I think the worse ernie are thinking about bringing them in. There was a time there in the nfl coats in particular where they were scout. No stone left unturned basically for an athlete if we could potentially teach them a couple of things maybe they can be a contributor on our team. It might be a two to three year process like that was something that was being talked about in our locker amount about other where other places. We had a shot from new zealand or australia. That came in for a workout warmed up so long was dead tired by the time of work. A workout is just like they're trying to kill you in those workouts. It's just like a conditioning tests. Basically so he didn't work out. But can we get or on the lines. Angle should call right now for allegedly joe burs known as comfortable. He'll get there though. Everybody's kind of turn their back on. Joey boroughs ability. Don't forget he is an absolute stud. He will find it. But i enjoyed watching that last night. Also i mean our four by one team man. Hey they said it was going to be a problem going in the race. They said the exchange passing that baton round for the american team has been a little bit of an achilles heel and everybody else seemed to have that thing. Perfect but we had a little little. We lewis jumped out. Carl lewis give out. Take a scared to get carl's opinion on it. Oh carl he's like a know by the book. Carl carlos a firestorm. Every time he goes. I mean i can't even one of the worst national anthems of all time that's him. Yeah okay so. That's what i remember the name from arable. He won nine olympic also. So let's let's not just remember him for singing right when he say basically said they were no better than an aa. Ut turned she team sleeping on cardboard box. Beds carl also. Somebody i read. Somebody's somebody put a comment on some instagram posts. That basically said the us team got there late. Maybe with only five days before they didn't have time to actually settled other next to. Yeah that's basically that's what the conman came from an fours from olympian. I don't know which. I don't know what olympia was so i don't remember if it was the sprinters or if you go in at different times but you're all there at the opening ceremony. How does that work out. I'm not hundred percent. Sure but the olympics have not lost their fastball. Just know that towel after watching last night. Skateboarding was incredible to you. You said you were loving skateboarding on. I didn't i. Did you know flip on cruiser for a little bit. But i am burned out on the olympics so we still got finals in basketball. Which again you can't fucking watch it. So it doesn't matter and then baseball. We do have a gold medal opportunity. So i'm still kind of hanging around. But i'm just about done okay. So last night's coverage of trouser was also happening at the same time as some running events were in crowds or was about to go but the race like the moment. We're we're all. We're just forced to watch a race in the aftermath to like see like what the times were. They cut away because they thought cruiser was going to be up in then trouser wasn't up. Actually he was just kind of walking around and it had to go back to the thing. I think that was the type of thing that potentially hit. People have been judging. Nbc for the gold medal. Game like that will be tough to find. That'll be a tough game fine but just like we said whenever we lost a nigeria and australia. Early boys going to figure it out. Popovich is going to get them running a little motion. We've will operation how you keep moving. We'll play this game. We're going to go back. I kevin durant and dame said our generations go win where everybody's talking about our generation. We're gonna win this thing but we ain't gonna be able to watch it hamble. Have you seen one game on television. not only reports. How come he. I saw i saw the girl from ohio. Won the gold in the overall. Yeah i didn't see that northeast from northeast ohio. I saw gonzo tweeted atr congratula man. So she was celebrating she was pumped up and then she looked at her mentioned and then all of sudden there was a lot of lot of attacks on so in their problems. I bet you probably sent a follow up. Dm hey sorry about how toxic celebration. I didn't know. I thought they would like you won't go terribly and i'm gonna research. I'll hey i waited to talk about this until you got on. I was excited for this also. Chris long we had a great long conversation with him earlier. But the jimmy. Graham jimmy graham i believe shares the same opinion that a lotta people have That maybe two people that are on the screen have that jimmy grams. Hey this is a is a shitty operation. Whatever you guys going seems like you're not really looking out for all the players just some of the players. A lot of the decision seemed to be a bit selfish. You're making deals that. Don't make any sense for anybody except for yourselves. And some players have seen the head of this motherfucker at four different events in one day at soup bone. Four different suits that had to have cost thousand dollars. What the fuck is going on over there. So there are some people that view that that way jimmy graham now with vaccination protocol situation puts out a tweet that is basically the nfl as memo to either the nfl or to all the players. It is wild. What's going on behind the scenes. right now. We knew the vaccination protocols we're going to be a massive ordeal without a locker room operates. There are many different ideals. Many different views there are people that are very firm in their stance and a lot of things because guess what. They've had a lot of success being stubborn in their ways and thinking the way they do for whatever reason or however they think the way they do in once i heard the stats that it was twenty seven teams or above ninety percent in eighteen or above ninety five percent or something like that in the eighty five percents. Whatever the case was i thought. Oh this is getting figured out. Jimmy graham said then and then and i was basically and getting the vaccine. Now i'm just confused and the entire memo says that can only be spread to a couple people where there's delta varenne can go to nine people what did we learn about covert nineteen that we don't know about delta delta lambda or any other one that is potentially going to join the fraternity party that's happening this is going to be a situation. Aj i think it's going to continue to be a situation. Especially what's going on. In minnesota with zimmer saying something and then harrison smith saying something about how kirk cousins is going the cam newton said. It's too personal personal stuff. Here there's a lot of big names and there's going to be this is going to continue. This is going to continue. Aj i mean yeah. It's only going to get magnified. I feel like didn't we talk yesterday on the show a couple of days ago about if you're vaccinated you get tested once a week other people. It's more now than they already switched that and saying they're doing daily testing now vaccinated player so the nfl pa is asking for because the nfl pa has to take the stance of health and safety is priority to vaccinated players. Wanna be tested every day. No no that's why. That is what jimmy. Graham was originally alluding to i think as you say i feel like i'm being punished even more now. I did what they told me to do. And now the fines are bigger now being forced into doing more things. It's harder this year than it was last year. How is that even a thing. Whenever we're in a different time but i don't know enough to know if we are in a different domino alana. We're gonna get shredded on quarterback on sometime to. I see the things that are making. Its way into mike. Tomlin should not be doing wanted to doom and mister mystery going back. Why do you think. I sat here and try to pump the brakes when you guys probably for the last eight months a travel out rather slows billions as aj. Here's your overpaying championship belt for being such a fucking hero age. Our ship it in this overnight. I wish i could get this to you right now. Now that you're the champion of pandering. Powell i mean. Do you want to catch chander. You want to cancel the game tonight too. All you want him to wear what flags on tackle each other to fuck the whole fame. No basically i travel around the country for the last twelve months while. We've all been bonker because we got the bunker mentality. That does what jimmy graham saying was. That just doesn't even mean anything to do. It's fast ball. Man just wants to fly. Well jimmy does take the disguise. And i don't know if he smokes dope or not but he does fly actual planes and ships and the thing about jimmy wait. What's what's the dough part about. Well you take. I take to the skies different fashion. You jimmy graham do when you're not flying the plane of course honorable don talking. I'm gonna you ever are dude. All right captain. Aj say you're asking what if we could talk doped up and flies. His helicopter and does aerobatics two. There's two different ways to take. The sky gets guy. You know what i mean you guys to all you guys choose like all i can die and there's a lot of pressure can get sick during this and who knows what's going to happen. I just sit on my couch and take off basically which one all day every where you fly tago space that. There's a third way you can do it. Tom gardner right outside. Yeah which one does choose the hall. Heart don't worry mid lives in the space. He's actually national. He doesn't choose. Yeah someday bore some people fly planes and they can kind of get around. You know like some people Little bit of a prop plane just kind of go to bed. Then there's obviously the smaller planes you can kind of get on. That do have a jet and everything. They have a good time. And then you get to the hawkers. The falcons you go. Up the whole thing boeing and do the commercial and then they become a fucking astronaut. That is just whenever you're you're just completely different planet than everybody else but you need those astronauts. Why 'cause they're they're pushing the boundary little they are. That's right oh i did not know your lungs or brain could handle that particular amount of cannabis and at one time. Yeah he's taking off the moore's do whereas you on that's mitt and that's We need some of those. Do we need some of those. He doesn't change he will. He's going to have to think no man comes down from space. I don't know if we'll ever see the same meant that we do today right now. Kinda he's a neil armstrong. Yeah yeah yeah. So he's in like see. I think he's gonna have to get the bomb garner. Of course okay at some point but at least get down to where the billionaires were come running down to the billionaires and then we need to get down to baumgartner and then you can live right there because you're close to being passed out and fallen out or something on fridays for hammered down. When everyone else is kind of like you know like you're in florida admits i do whatever i want. He's basically the rover that's going around mars. Just oh you can't you can't ask many questions or else is brain will explode and then it's a completely different person. Let's get back on track legitimate room. Though he is voicing an opinion. I think that a lot of players are probably going to voice at this point. And i wanna players that were. Don't you think a lot of players that were not huge. Fans of getting the vaccine. Obviously and then they go. Okay well no. I understand the situation. I'm going get and now you're changing the rules and protocols. They're probably thinking like all right. Now what are we. what's next. I could see somebody being so pissed off that is in the league walking into team meeting. Having your coach in the nfl tell you you have to get vaccinated. Okay like hey. I'm fucking half of k. Need you to get vaccinated so the nfl telling you then you go home and you open an email. The nfl pa. He's like hey also good news. You're getting tested every single fucking day still six. Am that's what we want. Because we're looking out for your health and safety net players like so the nfl is fucking me and in there is by the way in there is. I'm not saying the. Nfl is forced me to do something in the nfl. Pa is forcing me to do something that i did something to not have to do. That is kind of these people even speaking for me. Because i'm a part of the association. I'm a part of the union as well. They seem to not be speaking for me. Who are they speaking for. And at adam hodge. Says adam hodge says jimmy. Graham is vaccinated. He's frustrated with the. Nfl frustrated that he might still have to get tested every day and find if he misses one. He's talking right now about the years of miscommunication with the nfl pa. I'm going to week. Seventeen playing for free to okay. So i don't know what that means. Exactly that means he's things get fined so much. He's playing for free because the extra game just because he he didn't get a bump in salary but you had an extra. That's oh it's like everybody else. Oh yes seventeenth game. Yeah he was very in his thing. He was talking about how there was no real conversation about the seventeenth game being added. He talked about that which is a gripe for sounds like remember that vote was only what fifty one forty nine or fifty points on fifty point. There's going to be. It's become something. I just got to keep an eye on it. I mean they're going to try to make this thing not be loud. But if you've got some big ass name players that on monday after the game or saying i'm not going in for six. Am fucking test. All right and then they find them and then that player maybe misses the next day because that player might have a little bit of a fuck you in them which some players do have. Then they're going to find him again. Then what's going to happen. A press conference is probably going to happen. Hey you just go find blah blah blah. Yeah this is not good. I mean it's there's a chance that the vaccination thing could become a full in all all this is gonna become some become something big now. The nfl pa is potentially pushing against a lot of the players that are pissed off about the nfl is. Oh no mine all happen. It might all down here too but with the pa doing like they can everything is going to be. It's going to say this is for health and safety of course we didn't know about this delta variant and whatever else could come so they're gonna test you every day so that's how they can. I guess. Sit behind whatever decision they make because they have to sit on the side of health and safety so the nfl almost like this is once again taking those pills looking up on the ceiling and the chessboard. Del okay. Roger goodell says yeah. We'll push the vaccination all right. We won't have to do anything else. And then also if the nfl pa stands for anything that they say they do. They will also they'll be the ones that will say well. We also need this this this. We don't have to be the people that say that they don't make the nfl pa do that. And in roger goodell was tripping on those pills that beth harm and beth harmon was on he. He saw the whole thing. Go in iran the open sicilian in now the nfl's vaccination thing is not what the players hate now. The players are mad about what's happening with their own union negotiation. Next time around will be just as clean as they always happen. Yeah clean sleep for goodell. I mean per usual. And hopefully that does have some parts saying fuck you on a tuesday because that's great fodder. But can you imagine the victory lap cole. Beasley stake in buffalo right now. Are you kidding me. He's probably walking around. Like what did i say. Didn't he put out a few on the first day training camp. He read a prepared statement district as well. Yeah i put a couple of tracks on vaccinations. I think them are serious. I didn't believe it either by the way. This is one of those things. I thought you toxic folks. We're trying to force me into listening to and now listen to on coal. Actually he went to work here. He is not necessarily a message. That everybody's gonna love. Their people are not happy about this but he invested in this and then mark cuban. He also got involved in it and now mean. Now we got zimmer kirk cousins and harrison smith on different pages for this other places. You know there's entire situations popping often wash. I mean it's just kid rock chimed in. He did he said if the vaccine was the worst thing. I've ever put my body. I probably would not have got it. So can thank you so he did get it. so he watched mark slayers. Yeah so he's telling me laundry ass shit. Franks all beef. Franks on relish mostert. Catch-up diet coke. 'cause i put on a few pounds stink. I don't trust done my research. Really god i have watched as god have you. You have to movie right now. Okay so people at you know we. We put out the photo of me on that down on the thing. And i said what did they forced me to watch. It forced me to do this. I don't like watching people jump off the high dive into shit. I don't know what i mean like. I don't it's i've never enjoyed it. It's something where physical injuries now in this entire world. I just get uncomfortable. I think it's called tax. I'm not hundred class. one time. They said that. I'm not sure if it's right where you feel like almost uncomfortable for somebody else or something like that and that was kind of how that whole thing. Yeah that's the photo there. So i'm watching the beginning of it and i'm like stink like fully committed though because even hit like an in case you missed it post after he had already been into war. Whatever with everybody that was going completely against him which this is that world there is people that are like that in there are people that obviously this is going to continue to go for however long they're going to continue to go but i watched inner state. Hey he went to work. I mean he jumped into that war. He jumped into that. Were at least with some well. Thought out outland. Good at respect him being win. Don't you like he was like. Hey let me just just make something. Maybe middle middle of the road right now. I'm gonna edit this. I'm gonna play multiple characters like it was impressive. He's sitting on the toilet at one point. I did see a lot of his thigh. i think you think he was really dumping. Oh probably method acura coupes like five times to arthur. Search my buddy. Spencer hefner i play with green bay always like things like that. He's like. Oh it makes my warm and it makes sense to me like watching things that make you feel uncomfortable for the person i do. A lot of. I mean you did it to me. Down there in orlando with the first five minutes of us being around each other without one video. Second hand embarrassment. Yeah that's that might be embarrassment. Always is i mean kind of i guess yeah done embarrassments. Just like uncomfortable. I cool can't do jack yet hurt. It's like those types of injuries always. Yeah i can watch those. But that's a different feeling like a sick to my stomach. When i'm watching like which i don't like watching either. I'm not like somebody that enjoys watching the people get fucked up. I'm not like the golf cart running people over people had their. I could not watch all. My god is an achilles boston out right there. Just i feel. I feel like i feel the. There's people in my life that don't obviously they're the ones that forced me to watch stuff and aj followed suit immediately upon us meeting each other show. I'm shocked sheltered life. That you have lived. that's all. That's all sean. Listen blinders on all day every day just trying to woo how we live in how you're outside of it fuck off right. That's gonna sound it. You know what. I mean good. Hey we need everybody we need. We need all all different kinds of opinions and and brains out there. Well see now. That's an entire conversation you know it's health. That's that's something that me and chris long talked about a little bit people voicing their opinions about the league that i was very lucky to play in and witness and you obviously be a legend in and chris super bowl champion walter. Payton man of the year one year just watching people talk about the sport and how it happens and how it works and the business side and the league has been fascinating. So what i'm saying is. I'm not sure we need all types of opinions out there. I think some that are just not right. Shouldn't be voiced. But then who's who's i. Is it right or wrong. And that's an entire another fucking conversation. Keep going man took the binders explore. This one keeps going with the issue is. This is what i do. Normally so then i have to keep a blind blinders binders. I don't even start diving in there but the world right now. There's a lot of that there should be a split. There should be. There's the cable media. And then there's the internet media two completely different things but under the same umbrella kind of like that olympic explanation with the justifications or whatever the hell discipline various yeah all right. Let's talk bus most stuff going on the nfl before we get to a break. Two hours straight where we go forty plus minutes without a break the our terrible radio just that football football. I think it's good. I think you're right. You'd probably it's not the dumb analytics they tell you when you should break and all that to keep people around but i think people that are invested in the show like they are they like you're not gonna just jump out of a conversation because it's time to break our stats say average. Watch time forty one minutes. I have no idea why. But i appreciate the fuck out here. Now if you're at the beginning of your forty one minutes or the end of it right now. If you're towards the end of that i understand you got sick and meet talking too much apologize. We'll be back tomorrow. Insane fucking day but serious listeners. Were doing best of tomorrow. Youtube best tomorrow will be live. Come on overseer. So tech was an issue tech was an issue a j. I guess last week we. Because i have to get on a plane you know to head to whatever smack don is which this week down in tampa we still have. I believe we still have a lease on a house down there but antonio brown is living in it right okay so you can't stop. Aw kanye tried it. Because he is elsie. Dixit you if you Okay he's a different man. He's way way way out of that point of his life zone be a steelers fan and now no previous performance predicts. I think it's something it's something corporate something really. Prepare to fail pat avoca compared if you go to anyways. He's in our house that we were in down there in the in the beach house and he was posting of him in the house. While we still had to least we weren't allowed to get out of even though we needed to get out of so sh- i believe the personalities at houses getting to payments there so since we paid for we said well we're on stop down at least there to this upcoming month. We're told we're not allowed to do it. So i'm sure if we had some lawyers could get in there but abc's gonna love that house a beautiful house and pump forum posted on internet of him working out pool. Let's add down there so new chemical see what's going on but i think we should. I think we should look at this. As a positive super bowl champion touchdown catcher 'antonio brown whole lot of money man. Who has you know at this point. High standards on things. Same houses us. I forgot my now clippers in there. He's found them. Probably i left we live. Tv inner to those taped to the damn. We got to get that place everything. My bathroom had no. I wonder antonio brown. I wonder if he put on curtains. Or whatever my bathroom had no curtains and we got in late. The first time we were there flipped on the lights. Go bathrooms looking out. There's an entire town basically. Oh my god all right so had to hang towels up on. It probably wasn't nice for the neighborhood. But i enjoyed it. Good good lockton antonio brown with that house. Let's talk a little bit here about urban. Meyer announcing winners and losers during drills and special teams to everybody how do you feel about it. This is changing the culture down there accountability. Let's go celebrate the winds and also allow people to understand who lost here. Although film might say something different happened later. Yeah hey maybe you're not able to tell who is the winner and who's the loser in some drills but what are your thoughts on this public announcement of success. It's all right. I think keeps everybody definitely dialed in on their toes all practice. You know when you if you know you have eight gases after practice. The whole practice. That could be two and a half hours long. It doesn't matter it's in the back of your mind. You're always like all right. We just got done with inside rhyme ten straight reps. But i know we're running gases at the very end. I feel like with this looming. At all times. Urban could just stop practice and do one on ones and then they announced winners or losers. Like i keeps everybody undertow so i don't know how they can. Are they going to make a rule that they can't do this because they banned doing like oklahoma. Drill is this a way around it. I think it's i think it's a kick protection drill where it was somebody run and was like a one on one blocking drill like lane drill. I think either. Yeah tiba was doing that. If i read it right. And by the way that is very difficult to get around professional athletes so the blockers should because of the constraints on the space that you have the block sherwin but there's a lot of times in film you watch and i said all you shit up and it's actually like in the game there. There would be no return ten penalty from the where the ball was spot. And everything like that. That was my biggest thing it was like. They gotta be very sure themselves. Just be announcing winners on the field there. Because that's chaotic. It's probably a pretty chaotic situation. But i like these boosts in the atmosphere celebration happening. There's gonna be some players that hate it. Obviously there's going to be some players that like joe judge. There's going to be players. Say i i ain't for the shits here doing this and there's gonna be some people that by the way and that's kind of every single team there going to be plenty players that don't like it but you're to want to win. You don't wanna be announced as a loser especially multiple times over and over. What if you're just get known as the guy keeps getting beaten these one on one in every media reporter and fan that has a phone with internet on it which is at aj hawkeness. Lost his third straight one on one. You know in the announcement it could be the thing where we go into film and we realized that the dude was. Hold me the whole time and you get to my agent. Actually your three not only three. Oh cool yeah. We'll tell all the media people but it's just like me atmosphere. I assume could bring that competitive edge. We're gonna live on the edge that urban institute down there. Maybe it'll work. who knows. maybe. Joe judge work. Maybe it won't maybe zimmer and kirk cousins throw hands in each other who knows so earlier in the show when dumpy are footy. Handicapped handicapping aficionado soccer. Diehard fan came in here and there was a little bit of a ripple of a news at once. We were told that leo messi was going back to barcelona it was a done deal and the rest of the league was going to pay for it. We're actually lied to because today it was leaked earlier. That leo massey's situation has gotten super messy somehow someway now. Barcelona has confirmed messi who has been a member of the barth alana soccer club since he was thirteen years old. Twenty one years at this place fucking gone. It was a fish made official. All messy will not continue at barcelona after just a couple of weeks ago. We were told that he was going to be at barcelona. He was only becoming a free agent to resign with barscelona. And here. We are best player on earth alongside. Chris y'all rinaldo is potentially coming to the mls and this is something that we need. not you know. Underestimate the im- impact. This will have on soccer world as we win the concave fa cup in the gold cup. And then we're going to win the world cup. In europe's cut the coca cup and the the the australian cup and the champions the super league cut when we went all this. It's going to be tough for the rest of the world. Continue talk down upon us about not understanding that beautiful game messy is coming to the. Mls is that what was confirmed today. Whenever it said he's leaving. Barcelona are soccer expert. At city anything is a possibility at this point after he left. Barcelona for breezy auto. Romano has updated his tweet about Messy situation with an emoji. Red alarm like a hockey goal was scored a hash. Tag messy official statement. Despite having reached an agreement between arthur and leo messi and with the clear intention of both parties to sign a new contract today it would not be possible to form lies due to economic and structural obstacles parenthesis. I spanish lalita regulations. Oh my gosh is kicking leo messi out of spain this is unbelievable we will not do that and united states whenever he's a part of the but they had an agreement in principle it sounds like and then day of it was no longer the same as it once was like it was pawn stars. Leo's what's that mean for barcelona. What's that mean for the soccer community as a whole will barcelona half to fold completely now that they lose the best player that they've ever had is this. Aaron rodgers in green bay packers like leo messi and barcelona situation is that what's going on right now over there. Please enlighten us. How the best player on earth is no longer going to be at the organization. He has been with since he was thirteen years old. For twenty one straight years barth alona debt is approaching one billion dollars. That's why the super league was being created to get them and real madrid out of debt. They can't pay messy doesn't wanna stay massey rinaldo gone lalita. Now is a farmer's league at state. Oh how getting that. Much messy is going to go to. Ps g really with imbaba. They got the most money him and neymar loved playing together at barth. Valona makes too much sense in last. And i hope this doesn't happen man. City his old coach guardia. Sola from barth alone. Uh that could happen. And so not from barth alana to the portland timbers. What what about playing soccer talk. Hey this is big. On sports from on thursday august fifth age at long. Have you been i. I assume that the proper gatien right. Yeah of course lets you wanna be an asshole. Sorry uncultured okay. Usually just don't you normally don't use it fourteen times per cent and so let's talk about bartha. Listen i people normally can't even what are you talking about. He's willing to learn. I find a barcelona too by the way that you go to barcelona game. He gets go to barcelona game. But i did get to see the church rate the middle downtown down there. They've been in construction for like two hundred three hundred years. It is beautiful. Have you ever been barcelona. i i have no. I've never been there. But i did. I do a group of guys that watched the get married in a place where george washington was. Okay so that is cool. I would like to say that is cool. 'cause we are the group of guys that is the guy that got married worship. Depending upon what part of america you're in the language spoken there but in spain it's barcelona that's what we're trying to dollars. Is there any chance. He's coming to miami beckham's new team all leo's pilots. Yes an owner that team. I have the city. Pat mahomes has a stake in the kansas city team right. He's a very similar to and leo with that dog that he has that he juggles over in his backyard. The barbecue that dog could eat in kansas city. Mom leo come on over forget. Barcelona forget barcelona. Forget all the euros Forget them all come on over to the molest the best league in fact. How much would the mls have to pay him per year. So beckham was getting. What like a million dollars. A day there for four years or something like that. It was every second. He was making a certain amount of money. I remember when i deal was signed out of manchester united over to the elliott galaxy or whatever in the tire. mls they leveraged all of their cash. Like what you were going to say about. Lalita for messy. They all chipped in for that because he was gonna. He was the biggest star on earth at the time. Not just in soccer. But in life i think is well and he came over. And i'll tell you what i did. Watch him when he was taking a free kick. I was like hey let me watch guy like himself out did he. How did he play. Honestly we can dominate. Yes early you get very very well. He was scoring from midfield everything that he was get brought over for. He was a big leg. He was great freekick taker incredibly attractive. He played an electrifying style of soccer and when he was on the ball normally it was a goalscoring opportunity so he was like viga in people did watch. It was big for the ebrahim of which i would say. Jackson had a similar effect and now our league will never ever ever be the. Mls never ever ever be able to sniff the nfl. No okay. I don't think that should be held against the mls at all by the way. Because i know the sport in america can well and just wait until roger goodell does his little. Hey you guys gonna learn about football young age and you'll become fans bar sport instead of your sports. That's going to start happening as the years continued to go. I'm not saying soccer. wherever lose. its world love. But i think american football is going to continue to grow and i think that like the nfl sees that after signing one hundred ten billion dollar deal already they see. Oh there's an entire hemisphere. We haven't even really tapped into yet. I i assume that will continue to go. So maybe the nfl will be in a situation over there. And they are currently in that over there with their champions premier league and everything like that in our viewership but the mls will always be that over here but we get a couple of stars over here on mean -tario re came over and scored a bunch of goals. houthem ruben. this never came over to guy. Oh well southbound. Before his time though you know what i mean he was. Mls was still kinda like oh before watch out before. Backup pre beckham hem ls vagueness. This really could've been could could've been the back way. Mowing does just hang out score. Goals rude was afraid of lexi lawless. Alexa laws did play a very physical style soccer. He's not scared to throw his weight around back in her back. The greatest penalty kicks. It was like from hatfield. Yeah you gotta breakaway my favorite thing. I think i ever game for the. Mls was on prime time television. They came up with the coin. Toss i tony meola. Said you won't for bachelet. Tony fucking meal. I think so. If i do go how are. We not the premier league in the world fetch going on that score thirty me all is like seven or eight year old so i might've been okay. That makes more cons hotdog. Soccer can't off. I got a free t shirt to great photo or scoring on them. Could photo you. We have seen the photo. I think everybody got t. shirt shorts of signed by a bunch of people at that thing jay. You're at this thing too. I think so. Maybe you just have it some for some reason. I have a pair of shorts that much autographs on them. Maybe we're in. Two different note is not as in a box in my garage. I j only if we have. Tony meola signed umbro short stood. We need those things that okay. I'll see if i can find him. Could you imagine new studio italian shorts. Mls hall fame is going to be calling for those absolutely white umbro's now i think they were black. Yellow gold yellow autographed by. I don't remember the shorts at all. But i do remember umbro shorts with a white ambrosio basic thing. They had little split on the side. The copa mondial shoes. I mean those are the soccer days back in the day before the mls was the premier's league in the world. If we leo messi how come somebody can't make a run. Can we not just sell a couple teams. Get to go. Get leo messi over here. I think you'll do two years at ps g. and then probably when he was gonna sign with man city because they are connected to there's zero chance of anybody in the analysts signing leo messi right now but when he was going to sign with man seated there was a deal connected with new york city f c do two years at man city and then go to new york city two years after that. Because they're they're together so the subject of him coming. The mls has already been brought before we just automatically assume that was going to happen. I think two years him. Cristiano come together team miami team. Let them start their own team. They have enough money by far. Yeah yeah then. Just get a loan out or whatever. Jackie moon. He's made a billion dollars on the field. Get the funk out of my face get the fuck the phone scam face down here. I'm foul and pamela leo. Messi that year the analyst. I wouldn't. He says not us who says do stars have fought like this messy. Okay see now. You're taking a shot. All soccer no no. I'm saying i acquainted football when the defense field for twelve plays d. Lineman came in and go down coach down. Know oh hamstring cramp or something and everyone gets arrest. That's what i i assume it is. I think matt hasselbeck called it something. When we're doing thursday night football crab. Or i forget what the name of it was. It was the first time. I'd heard in the football world. Do you guys just standard name for. Hey you need to fake like. You're getting a cramp right. L. each team. Hd corner usually has like a term that though and usually designate somebody to to to go down. I've seen the practice before. By the way. I think seen in practice now not in practice. I've seen somebody practice what they were gonna do if it had to happen in practice. Yeah yeah in the locker room in. I think that is how it was decided on. Who do it action. This guy flocking did them and academy award makes it really smooth. He doesn't even look like it's fake. Almost unbelievable i mean. People are gonna be suspicious when it happens. But i think he's our bestseller guys are absolute notice. I got the full. There's been a couple. I mean there is. You just can't get up and sprint sideline once you finally get up. Yeah there's that happens soccer. I feel like a lot right. That's your sports thing. It does happen from time to time as messy do that or no. No messy usually gets hacked pretty bad because he's fucking deacon around everybody quiet. Yeah yeah talk. Shit now doesn't feel like it but like he just one that cope. That was the last thing he needed to do. So maybe it's like fuck it. I'm done here i'm don. Mls here we go. How how old is he. Thirty four thirty four years. He's been there since he was thirteenth. Young at seems very young. I'm thirty four years old. I'll tell you what talking grownup magic by accidentally just fucking raving steam or something like that. Oh that guy's much better than all of us here. This is a good time. That happened to freddie ado showed up at one tournament punky wall so oh yeah i mean he he. I mean we. We had a guy mitch. Minor from upper saint clair. He was a big hit. It was you know. Because there's ages when you're growing everybody's different sizes you know everybody's coming through different things and there's potential growth spurt said at move people we had can mitch. I think his name was. He was a big hit. Big kid for h bowen freddie. Duke him down and we had to play against him. We put mitch on freddie do and it was like a that was an adult flight between those two they were battling it out but he he was talking shit while shooting against us. It was like goddamn. This guy is much better than everybody here. People are saying he wasn't necessarily age. I don't know the whole thing but yeah that messy in accidentally run and he's always been the best thirteen years old. He started with buffalo. He's been unbelievable forever. When did he go to the adult team. was he. Like one of those teams sixty intersects sixteen old dude playing pros even go to score over there or did they just do the socks so in soccer they do academy so you play for the team as an academy and you do your schooling at barth alone as well. I'd heard about that. We got a chance to see. The manchester united youth team was in a tournament. We played in in talk to a couple of them over there and they talk about their schedule. Wake up we do conditioning. We do soccer than we do class than we do lunchtime. We do soccer. I think is is kind of how why they dominate. That's why golfers dominate that groping in that system to in other countries. Hello john i think. John daly's kid and i don't know i think everybody knows their schools that are specialized. I think it's i am i am. I'm g academy down. Florida kind of has that going on with all the sports where you just go in there and it's all all whatever all day and then class like. Hey let's get you. Ged basically but we're here to make money in the sports world. I get paid to do the class. Getting paid the football fascinating also in europe. I learned from bizarro. Because i told her that. I didn't know anything about the olympics. You know where's where's he from switzerland and he also i think he does. All of the exercises got her in the olympics and he watches the show. I think every once in a while or see some clips of us talking about the olympics and he goes. He actually told me that we have to. We have to talk about the olympics. He basically pulled me aside as like. Hey we have to It felt like zara was like you. You sound like an idiot. You're speaking about as he was delivering that to me and bothered me. I think pretty nice job big fantasy. He is very nice dude. He is very cool so as he said that to me. I kinda sense the tone even though different part of the world english is not as first language. I sent the tony socks. Shit so i let him know. I don't need anything from you. All right so out a little bit of a thing we got into that whole thing the way and he was explaining to me all the thing. I was very thankful for all the information and he did. So you know sports or not at your school you go to school and then you go join clubs so if when you're in school you do like Shot putting in class and if you like it they tell you where the local club is in any do these other workouts and these other things and he's a speed walking or whatever the hell it is and it's not associated with that so you have to go to a club. He said these clubs have like elementary school. Age people in for some things or junior high or high school and all up to like forty year olds that are still playing whatever sport it is like. There's a club soccer teams for like seniors. I think it's called at some age. They have they have the stadium. They have lights. They play at night and it's just like something they go to practice one thing and potentially been in that club their entire life and it's just like it's much better job like if you're forty doing that is that your profession now. It's like a hobby of theirs. They just like this is like there's always a men's league and your club will still play against the clubs that you played against whenever you were a kid and it's like cool this. I agree. I was because i'm trying to trying to find pickup games a shit. It's impossible to do you join these clubs. It's like we got stadiums we got rafts. We got we every unlike gotta pay obviously. But that's like a very cool thing for sport. I think that's what bjorn talking about. In germany when he was playing football and germany would go to school and then like the only way to play football. As you'd have to join a club with like all the kids from your town. Or whatever. And i set awesome by the way i we. I wish we picked up some clubs. Be nice go play some soccer love to magic. We had a game like seven thirty tonight. Left all my much. I asked his kind of moving your town and join your brother like i was like all right sounds good switzerland. I don't know how old i'm going to be. I can stay in shape. But man it'd be cool to join a club and being i want to be on ping pong team. I don't know if they got that. I like to be on the soccer team as well. I think they have a full like lobby. It's like an entire thing. Pick up like pickle ball or something like that still four year just competing against tires. Switzerland country starting oculus league. I'm sure club. holly. I'm definitely gonna shop papa. Pretty explosive shot clubs do now because being crauser moving it. Hey he's unbelievable. Aj have you ever done the shot put. I never did. I ran track and first grade night. Just running and i would like to like kovacs now like hey probably unbelievable as well just like mohammed who's right behind sydney mclaughlin. They both would beat the world record but only one. We'll get remembered for it because it happened in same race. They just so happened to be from the same state. Eight tight told just so bad. Told you saw that one. That was great. You know. 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