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Ep. 524 Russian Tour | Borsa Vini-Vinitaly Russia 1
"Three welcome to our to rush into is sarah lair each day. This week only is dedicated to the events being held at the end of march this here in moscow and some at versa. Vini envy in italy russia organized by the off year and the italian traded powered by the ministry of foreign affairs and international cooperation. Grab your favorite italian wine and we will see you in russia. If you enjoy listening please considered an eighteen through one. 'cause dot com any amount helps core equipment production in fully gatien costs and remember to subscribe to our show wherever you will tell you. This is the italian one podcast. My name is rebecca lawrence and today we're tossing use series of episodes called russian tool dedicated to initially russia. Unborn servini joint events for yet. And the italian trade agency with the support of the ministry of foreign affairs international corporation scheduled for the end of march this year in moscow and petersburg this year in italy russia onboard savini exhibition will be held in an agile format. Italian producers will join online to be sessions to accompany tastings of that winds and russian importers will present italian wines directly to attendees in russia in this series. We are going to introduce you to some italian wine. Producers taking pot in betabi b. sessions in moscow and saint petersburg so each of them will be represented by one wine. We'll give you a brief description of the selected wine followed by short presentation from the produces themselves. We contacted the wineries in advance to ask them to key questions. Why is this wind special to you. And is there any traditional dish from your region pass particularly well with this one so let's get started today. We have four produces mantell vini. Winery casali giulio agenda. Vinokourov on espn atto and cantina Negra first montale vini winery. There's been a real buzz about the bubbles activates lee in the last few years as their popularity has increased surf. The number of bottles produced and the international market has truly embraced these wines. The first one producer that. I'm introducing you to today is just one example. Montalcini is a family owned winery located in venezuela and the heart of one of the most famous wine regions in its this area is particularly known for the exclusive production of as Dear cj the incredibly popular sparkling wine made from glare characterized by being lightly aromatic with flavors and aromas of buttercup green apple pear and white page as an expression of the company's excellent sparkling wine making ability comes the asimo Superiority do cg a high quality wine made from the best vineyards. This particular wine is also characterized by originality in the prosecutor landscape. Let's talk about the winemaking process mcclair graves of the oslo mature towards the end of september. After i of pressing the musters commented at a controlled temperature through the use of selected yeasts after fermentation. The wine is filtered and stored then re fermented in an autoclave with the addition of liquidity garage at a temperature of around sixteen degrees celsius once obtained the sparkling wine is chilled to minus four degrees celsius. Once the refining process is complete. The product undergrads is barak filtration assessment autoclave and is then bottled. Wine is straw yellow in color with green reflections. The fresh fruity aroma. Reminiscent of acacia flower. Wisteria and golden delicious apples. It's fine bubbles that rise in the gloss create an instinctive festive atmosphere and it's good structure satisfies the most demanding palates at the same time the elegance of its aromas and its softness. Make attractive to all line lovers. This process is well suited to accompany the very best dishes. The main characteristics of the wind. It's balance now. I'm going to give floor to the producer. Hello jordan on. I'm about to serena. And i'm the ceo of montel. Bean sees a winery located in the oslo prosecute super ucd area. What my family's been doing from the beginning from eighteen eighty one is to promote our territory. So it's now me and my sister. Sarah run the winery and we are the fifth generation of the winemaking in our family. So as i said before we are located and diaz solo ucd which sees the smallest area of production for this quite different because the soil gives the meteorologists the wine so it becomes clear in the glass because it has highest structure which can be matched easily with food. the so why is also superior andrew. Some we're talking about the is special for me. I was safe for two reasons. Basically first of all because the we see ourselves as Beanie as ambassadors of our territory. In fact my father's been praised than Sore show of producers for almost seven years and secondarily for the fact that in this wine we express at Our craftmanship in winemaking making an especially in making net sparking wines. So in this verse. We app a balance between fruityness meteorology and also intensity. So what kind of food the suggest for this wine. It is a typical dc now authority which is called the easiest easy which is basically result. Don't made the with fresh peas and it is a perfect match for this kind of wine because it has roma intensity and also softness which are also the current thirty six this wine so i invite you to visit that website. The montalcini salts. It and also try our advocacy. Video that brute. Thank you everyone. Shout to all of you. Great thank you so much to alberto from montage vinnie. And i remind you that the digital catalog of the events in russia is available on the vinitaly international website and a link in the description of these episodes. In the meantime let's move onto our next producer casali dodgy. Casali does is a winery located thirty miles south of rome in parallel with challenge to select italian international varieties best suited to the area because ali does. Julia has always maintained a keen. In last year's native grape varieties such as beyond la la chazan. Naser pechory arena rediscovered in areas close to the property the composition of the soil in. What is now breezy. Vineyard areas near the coastal town of enabled it to resist the disastrous philoxenia academic of the late nineteenth century and to preserve the area's local on grafted vines more than sixty year old vines thrive in this small unique micro-climate until woah. Where a perfect interdependence of mine soil climate and tradition are essential to the production of this great wine. We're pleased to introduce you to anthem. Bianco lattanzio igt by dell giulio. But first a few more words about the vine bellona's ancestor is believed to be. The hoover tasks teach up praised by pliny the elder and his naturalist historic and present it to these latin region. Since roman times today the grape is cultivated from the alvin the lucchini hills and along the nearby coastline so the baloney grave is vigorous and resistant to drought a guarantee for wine quality. Imbalance wallets plump. Golden thick skinned grapes hang in elongated cone shape bunches a persistent seabreeze contributes to the perfect ripening of the grapes. While perfect concentration of sugar and a notable entity helped to underline the winds pronounced mineral notes. The harvest here takes place in late. September when we talk about anthem bianca lattanzio vinification takes place in two stages. I there is maceration on the skins to encourage extraction of the aromas resulting from the toa then after soft pressing spontaneous fermentation with indigenous. Yeast occurs from around ten to twelve days at eighteen to twenty degrees celsius. This is a deep yellow wine flecked with gold. It speaks of summer and sun rich tropical fruits such as mango pya which are carefully balanced by mark. Acidity making it suitable for long bottle aging lush ample lingering on the pallet with hints of flowers and spice this line is defined by his trademark acidity. Zesty tang also has a long finish. Let's see what the producer has to say. Jonelle debris rudra my name easily seattle. I'm the export manager of khazal. Geo a winery located in lots you some fifty miles south of rome to give you an idea of the geographic position. If you consider italy's boot lattes you would be its knee. So today i would like to present. You are an to twenty nineteen to do that. I was asked two questions. The first one is why is isn't soon special for me. Well first of all our and whom is made one hundred percents of bologna grape which is indigenous bharati to the latter region. Actually this very is very antique and was already grown by the romance. The grape grows on the sandy soil of ancil neha rome. This unique micro-climate has enabled divine to resist the disastrous philosopher. That's why our end. Zoom is produced from a sixty year old and grafted vine a real terrar- where the interdependence between vine soy climate and tradition contribute together to the prediction of great wine. Furthermore the persistent seabreeze contributes to the perfect reopening of the grapes. This ends whom especial. Because it's not only made by the c eight glass full of sunshine tropical fruits and seabreeze. I think it's a wine that perfectly expresses the territory wary grows. It's fresh yet generous. Fruity yet dry. A great acidity and loan finish. That makes perfect for any kind of occasion. The second question. I was asked to suggest a traditional dish of pair. Well a perfect. Local pairing would be duped by the patient. Which is a typical soup from the fishermen of ancil made with the bruce of a local fish. Another traditional pairing would be the best. I at bernarda. Thank you and see soon begin. Tsia thank you. To eliza leland export manager of casale gilio now. We go back from sunday last year to the north in the picturesque landscape of the land for sacramento to present the next producer to you has yonder a caller aniston natto. The story of anna spineta is the story of the venetian family from punted. Piazza conquered by the love for wine and the passion for his land. The identity of the ananta winery coincides with almost a century of history of venetian family. Who have developed a deep bond with territory from the banks of near the river reaching all the way through to cornell no valdano. The winery was founded in one thousand. Nine hundred fifty two by pietro spin otto who understood the analogical potential of the land today. His daughter anna and son roberto work to give identity value and prestige to international and local wines. Together they decided to create wines. Typical of this region such as valdivia. Dna prozac bozo. Mallon optum alongside wines international vines capable of expressing and enhancing the unique and distinct characteristics of this land. Sixty years after the company was founded in twenty twelve at the end of an benneteau managed to bring the first certified organic winds light as winemakers themselves say it was just the beginning of an exciting journey. That will help them to take care of the land. Whilst guaranteeing their customers wellbeing health and pleasure nowadays roberta looks after the exclusive packaging and harnesses the modern technologies giving an the energy to continue to face the challenge of reaching markets worldwide. As the end of an aspen ato have chosen the prosecutor dear. Cg rose a brute for this program lost summer. Many of us fell under the spell of rosa. Each season has its perfect wine and pink is the right color for the warm season of the year young people and the fashion business of confirmed it with constant passion for those of you interested in how to make rose winds. Let's have a look at the production process the agenda choose the best red grapes of the area and leave them on their skins in contact with the mosque for just a few hours. Exactly the right time to obtain the unique texture color harmony and unmistakable flavors. hey we have red fruit fragrances. And the finest bubbles to pair with fish and shellfish dishes. Just remind you here. We have the secretary sparkling. Drc cg brute the production area is in the vannatter region. The grapes are eighty five percent. Glare and fifty cent pinot noir. Vital for that lovely rose pink color the soil very light and the training system is. The wine is a bright soft pink with a persistent assistant and creamy foam. Intense rose peach aromas elegant and with a very delicate hint of bread crossed. It is creamy mineral with citrus. Finish and now. I will give the floor to roberto to present the winery and this wine himself with morning. I'm rebuttal and along. We are not. I managed to company. Honest being winery. The visual invited the rate. They study obama's be not the easy one ovation family i by the For being and the love for wines created ninety fifty two by fee through my father each around today by ana who so realized the potential of initial wine. They decide to become an ambassador of the diane. Why in the world as Based on the name fame of quality of Buck compatible of giving it entity diallo and prestige otherwise combined today. Really the expansion in the same of the diane shown by following astra tajik broadway. Busy on the with that. He won't recognize the diner style. Made of gold beautiful. Has the piece always attentive to the bosses of division anne Honestly not the why eddie By a great sensitivity to die but they've evolution of the international market rental. The is export the ninety seven percent of its production. I must be now in that. The local editor national vs in ryan articulated completed analyst bond to the single stained that the one dictated the search for the highest body of chance and flowers equality opera shaped by costumes. Evidence by many was achieved indian procedures internationa winds competition. I would like to introduce to you or new sparkling wine these athletes is suspected. Wine to me because it's represent a mix between both at six the first at the leash on of land famous for the spattering flying With a band of gladdock rates and pin on grace not Fifteen percent of the dot com bland and are vilified Radway for today's followed by this of pressing and moloch deformity show of the lines east. Add the Greta braves get gold moderated at ten said suv degrees for twenty four hour followed by the soft pricing on the temperature at eighteen. Degrees dipping on mar and prosecute wines are Typically on informational finally at suv degrees the second fermentation begins with a blend of the to beijing wine. At least for seventy days of us. The caller is south. Being with the passage that increase fall on the bench. Chance of rose beats elegant weeks now. The red crossed that this is screaming. We cheated ending. My favorite food. Baby is with seafood dishes. Lights twins wins. Cherry metal ambled dada after only flown on a different. The second theme won't see on this site. That in these burial is a big china's central and larger ryan rains in different county around the world. This way laver. We are deeming all xi's customers and the new ones this significant opportunity Is i hope you will have a chance to meet Wind damage in multiple. He may dine. I wish you a good day station tower just a reminder that you're listening to the italian podcast you can find a link to the digital catalog of the vinitaly. Russia embarrassed beanie joint events in russia in the description for this episode. Many thanks to to better from the end of makoto benneteau for presenting his into us today. finally it's time to move a little bit west. I'm going to stay in the verita region for the next produce cantina valpolicella negra as we mentioned earlier. We asked our participants few questions in advance but the colleagues from the county and eighteen grabbed not stop that and shared the story an interesting one and while the story is connected with aruna one of the most famous red wines of the region. We don't mind till and we'd like to go straight into the presentation from our guests today just to give you an idea of the valpolicella area. A lot of few words here about the vines of the region before we move on to the wine from valpolicella ground the most important grape variety in the winds of political is corvina which translates to little raven. Either the dont color of the grapes is reminiscent of the premature of the raven or refers to the ravens attraction to the grapes. When they are right in the venuto it is used to produce valpolicella. Drc valpolicella pasadena. See amodeo on out. Chela dear c. J. choctaw della valpolicella dear. Cg bardellino drc bodily superiority do cg and the verona agp amongst dry wines. In valpolicella a characterized by a light to medium body made with fresh grapes. Amarone della valle chile is full-bodied rich. Hyon alcohol unmade from f- dried grapes. Falcon passer is made by adding the unprecedented amarone which encourages a second fermentation increasing the alcohol slightly and giving the wine extra white. The choctaw della valpolicella is the sweet counterpart to marana. Finally there is body. Nokia toto among italy's finest data's now let's find out what the choice was one. More time i'll handover to sylvia monaco. The export manager of cantina valpolicella niagara. Welcome to everybody. I'm sylvia inaccurate the expert manager of containable rock if you are about our winery. This is the company where maroney was born. One century go from lacking a stake of mr dylan case our winemaker the time if oh god barrel of sweetwater too one. The only one produced for century across the valley in the warmest corner of the winery along the winter the fermentation when to end the final outcome was a full-body. I holocaust and bitter taste red wine. Because of its bitter nets. It was name warner which means bitter tasting in italian language for more than half a century. We have been sold a red wine. Labeling each bottle with the name of richard maroney because they wear and an international acknowledged rules to produce this wine after the second week. Were our commitment where not only to preserve. Containable politics gra business but it was also trying to support older valpolicella area muting to build again our economy. And that's why we decided to share amarone name an official techniques with all the one producing bipolar from ninety seventy all our production bays on seven hundred and thirty three actor. Vena have been organized in crew. Drying this way to underline old than you any single venus side and are repeatable production. Librium wanted you to g. Classical is one of these grew first of all the reason of name traditional language in benneteau namely riera. The action dry stone hand be alturas is were grape growers bill. They're being located between verona and as more village neograph. It is the only way to cook the the being here. Everything must be done by hand. Of course can you imagine what does it mean. Let's concentrate us on amarone wines lip out is one of our best known products which express our company philosophy shown through the wine balance between elegance and structure it is produced from a traditional grape. Seventy percent corvina fifteen percent curvy. Non fifteen percent rooney nadler also has an excellent exposition to southeast the soil type. Why from clay to calcareous use the pair guelleh dope yet training system and avena are dated twenty five years ago. We have only three thousand vines. Director and production can be changed according to vintage from five thousand to six thousand bottle very small amount. Our i take place between the end of september and the beginning of october and after that grapes are gently store to become drier and to concentrate their compound losing team the forty percent of waters for about one hundred and twenty days termination is very slow. It takes around thirty days at a temperature. Between twenty three and thirty degrees melodic fermentation must be completed before moving winds in their juma refinement. A place in large barrels for a minimum of twenty four months and follow in moderation in battle for six to eight months. It is always adopted about its organoleptic. For fi- it doesn't intense ruby. Red dense collar. Aroma makes big intensity and persistence is fruity with inter cherry and dried prunes. Red rose and sweet spices if taste that is overwhelming by full-body smooth and velvety with an and taste of elegant panel and black chocolate. Tannin enjoy this one. With aged cheese red meat or lichen nappy end of male available and russia for importation. Many thanks sylvia. That's all for today. I invite you not just to taste. Palo amarone cg classic classical to give your assessment but also the oslo process coast superior do cg from until vini winery anthem beyond colosio is not by casali dodgy leo and prozac. Odio seek rosa melles. Amato blood from the ns benneteau winery. Thanks for tuning in. I'm rebecca lawrence and russian tour series continues on the italian wine podcasts. Listen to the italian one. Podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Were on soundcloud apple podcasts. He malaya's fem and more. Don't forget to subscribe and the show. If you enjoy listening. Please consider donating through italian podcasts. 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The Shutout King
"Do you need a pep talk. I need a pep talk. Like twenty four seven someone of follow me around and homey fund movies to watch and recommend small businesses to support. You just described the total. Sf podcast bay area culture fund guests cable car bell ringing support group led by the chronicles. Peter hart lob and heather knight new episode every friday. morning said skype at total steph. Wherever you listen to podcasts. Hello and welcome to the giants slash podcast from the san francisco chronicle. I'm your host chronicle giants beat writer susan's lesser. Today we are joined by giants catcher. Curt casali he's in his eighth big-league season and of course his first with the giants after signing as a free agent. Welcome kurt to giant splash for your first time. Thank you so much me appreciate obviously the first thing we have to talk about is what everybody's been talking about lately that the five consecutive shutout that you caught which is remarkable in and of itself and record setting for the giants. Then you add into that. Seven scoreless from logan web. The other day before a couple runs booth the bullpen. But we'll we'll we'll gloss over that part but how. How much pride do you take. an you know. Five consecutive shutouts cost is just incredible. A lot In thank you for saying that. I appreciate that it. It's nice to be recognized in when you something cool. I think it was right up my alley because you know it was a. It was a combo the team. You know me being a pitcher on the defense behind all working together towards towards preserving that making sure that the other guys not scoring runs up at those pretty cool and it stinks. There was over. But i'm happy that it happened. It was it was. It was a fun ride in a very very thankful for everybody that helped me compass. Obviously you're not actually executing the Yourself but you're calling the pitches you're framing pitches. You're blocking pitches How much do you feel like. You are actually a part of it because people might look at it and go like no you know Kevin costner threw a shutout and You know who cares who was catching it I don't take more more credit. I don't want more in pitcher gets You know they're the ones who are out on the island You know they're. They're the ones on tv entire time. They're the ones who are taking the flag if it doesn't work out well but You know it's a you know. I think it does take two to tango and the fact that You know we've been able to have a a nice report with with with these features been made my job easier and hopefully You know hopefully the they agree with that. I'm calling and if they executed you know we will. We should get a matt success but he got up definitely not taking more credit than the pitchers for sure slow among the amazing things about this the five consecutive shutout. That was all different starter. So let's talk a little bit them and working with them. It's like starting with you. You've got some of them before which i'm assuming plays into it. Obviously you know in in cincinnati you cosmin desclafani would from there and you've been around the league for a while but let's start with guzman. What makes him special. What's he like to work with kevin. Kevin he's really transformed southern to top of the line. Ace and i remember him coming out of lsu and over a big arm. You can touch the upper nineties. But his you know his awesome. It was something that was always a question. Mark nears a wisconsin. Working on it you know and his days baltimore and he Not here the you know the giants pitching staff and they were just decides. Hey we're we think you're splitting your fingers and elite pitch like we'd like use it just really throw to digits or to an app which is if you will and just kind of sprinkled on a slider here and there and you know that has turned into probably one. The ghost elite obsolete pitches in baseball. And you know the fact that What does averages were going into against. The marlins against the split wasn't very good. And so i think. John birdie itta it homer up on a split or not. It's it's been pretty dominating bitch so he He's he's taking his spot as you know rightfully so as as in the league for sure. What is the movement on that pitch light as coming toward you. It changes Changes in the the way that it starts. You know the height that it starts out so it's a good we needed for a called. Strike starts a little bit. Higher feet in athletes tainted fastball down the zone and we have count to work with. We're going to you know. Start the split at the same height as a fastball. And let let just drop into the dirt of we swing over the top of it. But it's it's rare that you find somebody pitcher that can locate a split bigger reasons not to draw. Obviously you know. Desclafani will also he. He like guzman. Came to san francisco with the idea of kind of reestablishing himself which guzman obviously has done and desclafani so far looks better than ever whatever your impression spending what stands out about him to you. I think tony has been really workout a curb art. That's been a great separator for him. you know not definitely not something that we threw a lot when we're in cincinnati and you know just wrapping. His wasn't good just because he didn't have it in. The you know the the giants pitching or staff is really coach. Them and help help them along. Then a learning and honing in pitch. But i think the biggest thing for food He got cincinnati. And if you think about the us On the staff with last year mean you got Sunny gregory scott studio and trevor bauer. It's gonna you know you kinda accidentally get lost in that you know. I think you might say the same thing too. But it doesn't take away out talented. He is how much you can help our team. But you know. I think when you're given freedom you have a change of scenery bigger ballpark it. it gives you some confidence in and and his been balling out so for me. I'll be fun. He seems like a very serious competitor. That is meaner. Is that really. What you see. Two seasons are good competitor. News you know naturally quiet person but He he's he's a bulldog on the mound. This is a national on a non. I really appreciate you know that type of fire that you bring us and then i can get on board with that any day. It's like he's ready to go to war and you know he wants to. He's up throwing hate balls that a header bumped down for that any day of the week. Yeah yeah that's one thing that stands out is actually the kinda got this good pace going this year and aggressive going after. It seems like it's effective and baseball. Yeah for sure. Yeah a catch. That's gotta be kind of like nobody likes the slow pace but especially with what you're doing like come on their ex green catches and you know. We're getting quick outs. And you know if anybody appreciates a quick ending. It's me because catching is not an easy close to be a part of them in other thirty as has been fantastic from from these guys. Screw now you have two guys in the rotation who little bit of question marks coming in. Alex would obviously had that spinal ablation procedure. He's yet another guy you know. And he's come out and just look fantastic. What's been the keefer for. Would you talk about pages you know alex would eat after. Have down into my squad. After i give a sign because sassi's gonna he's gonna deliver it before even get set up and i like to go down to a knee a lot and I don't even have time to do it. Sometimes gordon forties. He's he's really really prepared when he comes into baseball game. He knows exactly what he wants to do. He he he's he's calling most of those psychotic credit than he's doing for the is very smart. He's his sliders wicked this year and you know the the biggest thing for him is he's always kind of dealt with some back issues and you know if he's healthy skilled and You know currently his back. Strong great. Which i'm happy for you know. Pc's pitching tackling like we would and he's he's gonna a really nice voice voicing reasonable better voice on on the staff and it's It's been a pleasure to have about really really catching him as well. Yeah it's such a veteran staff anyway. Aaron sanchez one of those guys He like was a little bit of an unknown coming off the shoulder surgery. had pitcher while had a lot of seasons with Little injuries and things like that. And he's been something of a revelation to He's not somebody that you had caught before what have you. What are your impressions amid up. I've faced centuries before i dec- throws his ball to summers. That are generally been a lot harder in the past. But you know. I think he's still trying to find his velocity and find out of routine but helgeson is armed bounce back the than it used to and But the fact that you know he's he's able to get out and and you know. Help your heart our team a chance to win. Every time he goes out while you know not really You know breaking the radar gun is impressive and self means got a big loopy. Loopy curveball breaks lot and you know it'll get chases biggest change is probably his best pitch so far and if he is able to you know really shoved inside out. Righties enforce their their their hand by opening their hips than flipping a change. I've done underneath He's gonna he's gonna do really really nice things for us but You know happy for him. Opiates is blasted back. I know he wants to throw hard like like all the boys but He's he's even greg course for you talk about change upset. That leads us right into logan web. Know who who did catch the pitch seven scoreless the other day It's been a little bit up and down was briefly in the bullpen. And until quite us now on the i l. but his his changeup is pretty spectacular. I know at one point. You'd compared it to somebody that you cut in. Cincinnati luis castillo. Were such a special change up. Where do you think. Logan is right now. And what does he need to do he you he and gave kappler slap. Startles offside like. Hey there's more there was a seven scoreless you know he still can improve on in that outing. Yeah there's it is hotter percent or their of minutes. It's he's he's just scratching the service of something that he could. You know it could be an absolute superstar and stand on a truly. Be not an. It's it's because of the action that has pitches east dot such great movement on it. I think he needs to. And if you ask. Sanford needs to clean up You know when he yanks. Which is you know. Away from righties and Just because they're just noncompetitive. And i'm not saying he's not trying to throw a good pitch in that situation of just. Doesn't you know what. Yankee pitched a writer. Just it doesn't serve a great purpose begin. Really hone in his. You know miss lots. He knows exactly where it's going to go. And the general range and and clean up those outlier pitches. He's gonna is going to really take off but His changeup change but something special israeli goods from training. And i think. I think we've seen is we you know we're we're pretty clear. And and calculate what we said. We wanted to throw his change of law insurance. You know we have a certain percentage in mind per hundred pitches about how may change us. We thought was was good. You know. I think we tried that and it didn't really work out. I mean it's it's not that we can't go back to her. But i thought was cool. Was the other day against miami. We believe we through twenty eight changeup says yeah something like that so you know about twelve less than what we would normally do. I think we threw maybe five more sliders than we normally would have and at the rest. Were fastballs fifty. One or fifty two pitches fastballs degrade it. Just you know kind of figuring out what the formulas that day house changed. I was synchro slider matches up against a particular wind up and then go from there just saying i go get any type of getting situations. Go through change. I play not not pitching you. Gotta you gotta sharpen not sharpen that up. And i think that his ability to adapt to that and and you know distrust sinkers wordpress. This latter is going gonna work. This is a clear sign them of really good things to come for that guy. Yeah i love the idea of throwing anybody's best weapon ton there'd been that you like as much as fifty percent if it's a really special pitch but especially early. It did look like teams. Were just starting to sit on a change of so. Yeah but that can be good. If you get 'em thinking i'm just gonna sit on the change and then you know switch. Distress anchors adam Ninety three and it doesn't even seem like three seems so much harder. It's just it's it's a lot of weight behind and no spoke not giving up any damage on it now. He's obviously on the l. Right now but he'll be back soon. Johnny cueto so much fun to watch pitch. What's it like to touch him. Yeah he He's a unique gas than anybody. You can do a triple shimmy in. The middle of a delivery is special. Aren't i. I just wish i'd do what he was doing it. Let's because he's he's touches me off guard kind of you know kind of the same as what he you know. Goes to quick. And i decided even have a chance to get ready for the patch Similar johnny. Just don't know his three three shinners one done quick pitch kost sometimes. Sometimes i throw some signs down. And i don't even know what's coming because he just was so. Just throw a pitch. And you'll laugh. And i got the doug is either bob. You're like yeah you got me. It's fine in the guy the guys he. He's a good dude you know. He's a good kid. Heart on the mound. I think it's cool to watch. You know when you got a guy that's been around for as long as long as he has. He's still finding different ways to you. Know get guys out in a creative way. I think it's think it's great television. I think it's it's fun entertainment for sure out of joy catching them for sure. The enthusiasm is really it's pretty infectious and like you made me think of Mike trout back out of the box and laughing's spring training. Yeah kinda got quick. Pitched a little just kinda doubled over. It started laughing because you not get amused by that. It's like it's said we'll be back with more with giants catcher curt casali in just a moment but a reminder you can find all of our giants and major league baseball coverage at www dot ece chronicle dot com and to subscribe good s chronicle dot com slash pod. This episode is brought to you by samsung moms help. Everyone be their most epic cells. So for mother's day helped mambi. Her most epic with samsung galaxy gifts like their most advanced smartphone camera. So mom can take photos. Like a pro. a smartwatch. Next level fitness tracking samsung's best earbuds yet to help on block out and turn up or the statement making galaxies the flip five g that less mom flex or style. This year celebrate. 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I think if you only have analytics and you're only going by percentages and numbers just reading off the card. You know that's to me that's not. That's not the game that's not. That's not the game within a game. That's you know you can. You can start the opening drive of a football game right. You have your your your place. Scripted essentially right and You know after that. It's you just play the game so it's it's generally good way of doing. It's like look at numbers a look at what. What's what cages that that particular is not good hitting look at especially what he is good at hitting and hopefully be able to start something in there. You know niger zone or something and make them think that they're going to get the pitch they want. It's actually arctic. And so that's that's the game in the game. I think of you know the person told me pretty much. Everything i know about pitch calling is derek johnson as chris for the reds right now and he was also pitching coach in college at vanderbilt for years so We he. He pretty much taught me everything about you. Know reading swings. And you know how to how to use like a triangle and Triangle vision over the course of the last strike zone and had playoff perceived loss news and things like baton. It's it's it's it's a. It's a chess match. I really enjoyed that. It's exhausting but it's It's it's really fun when you can. You can get into the mind the hitter and and and trick them and they didn't even know what happens and by the time they're stuck in the box the next thing i know there there have backed it some sort of a coolest thing in the world. That's part of the game. That i i enjoy most the almost have me envisioning the beautiful mine. Like numbers on a chalkboard. Kind of thing like I wish i i. i'm not. I'm the jesus any they can tell you that i just. I've just seen a lotta pictures just You know ad says some sundays called terrible game registered on might be step behind but you know most than kurt. No no no. I like i like were you know. I like the rhythm that we're in right. Now it's It's it's been gottesman fun. I remember enjoyed it. How would you describe triangle vision. Because i don't really care that is It's just like so you know you you take you. Take the you know the the box of the strikes on these the other television and basically just put the trial. It's like so you got the top bottom bottom laps bottom writer you know. Depending on what side it is. And you know it's basically it's like see videos of pitch overlays right very. They put a curb on top of a fastball. The disappear and it's basically using where the last pitch ended up and base in the next. It's awful where that was have the. How did they react to that. High fastball at the top of the strike zone Did bite on it bid on it. I'm gonna go a little bit higher or if they're you know didn't flinch it all on a pitch inside that means that they're looking away. It's like all right. I got inside all day long and it's just like the little visual using using the parts of the strike zone here badge we have. We have the ball and will always have the advantage in that situation but It's it's literally mind games and it's the can execute. You know nine times out of ten. I can almost guarantee you that we're going to have a good day. It's it's it's a matter of if they miss like hard. How do we use that this to our advantage. I love that stuff. How much does that that knowledge help you as a hitter obviously as a backup catcher not here for your and expects that but yet do you find yourself using some of that information when you're sometimes the gum there are times where it could be helpful in there or times working. You know screw in some sense. You know like i find it. I find it interesting. You know when other catchers hidden and other react to with throwing out. You think there'd be on the same pages as me and a lot of them are like they're they're they just can't help it. You just think through the that and and and sometimes you get them sometimes. You don't grow them a a deathly. It needs to be separated. I'd love to love to go back to the days and hitting a little league and high school were up not constantly. they can do the that features. I just want to react and hit the ball hard again and hopefully goes from defense but It a challenge some point. I mean i definitely don't You know i'm not gonna sit here and say that i'm not a competent hitter. Because i know. I can hit a hit in the past and i will hit again but it's to just funny how this year has started off. You know kinda just get into that rhythm you know defense is always i especially in my position on this team. You know. hopefully i can you know With the bat a little bit. More coming this yeah. I don't think your timing is starting to come around to get there. Yeah i wouldn't worry too much about it. I think. I think happy with the catching a. How much of your job is relationships. Like almost being a psychiatrist or shall against and knowing what makes guys take probably ninety five percent of it It's it's something i'm not. I'm not saying i'm an expert the spider-man's it's something that i definitely probably. We've looked into more than the actual pitching percents like. I want to figure out how this guy is gonna react in that situation. I wanna i wanna feel like what makes him tick and that that gives me a better understanding of how i can help him. You know a golden amount. If if he's a guy that needs a calming calming force than than. I can do that if you need a guy that needs to you know picking me. Ask him going. Like i can i. Can i can do that too. And you know. There's there's certain guys that i don't i don't know yet like i'm still. I'm still fairly new here. Liz few guys in the bullpen. That i'm still learning to see what what gets them going like. Well the levian. I'm slowly learning. You know the data about him. And i think we're gonna you know start to really take off with him pretty soon. But you know we're all we're all different. Like how do. I put myself in their shoes. What what are they feeling right now. Itching is one of the hardest things to do sports. Maybe you're you're out there on an island by yourself. Everybody's watching you. And how do you deal with that. Even though you can pitching your entire life like how does it. Does it make you feel you react ones. There's fans booing. You're or you know. Do you get over excited when they're cheering for you. It's just the psychology missouri fascinating. Yeah yeah i mean. Are you getting squeezed. How are you dealing with that. Also stuff like you know so. Many different little tiny elements that go into the weather. I mean the you know the other day You know the mound was was wet and sticky. And there's all sorts of different facets into it's fascinating. You mentioned the bullpen. I'm not going to have to go through all the relievers because there's a million of them but you play with jake mcgee early in your career and early in his career. How much he has. He changed since then. is pinching hasn't really changed that much Still still thrown thrown fastball. Ninety five percents of the time. It's just it's it's just mind boggling. Today he can really make such an incredible living off of that one pension i know he's frequented for sliders Recently in that's that's mainly because we're facing teams in multiple times oersal week and it's our job to stay ahead of the curve. But he's an impressive guy about you. Know he's he's an absolute pro. The nicest speak on her met. My wife was actually. I got called up in tampa from gwinnett. Georgia fluted to meet the raise and jake. Actually it was on my flight from atlanta to minnesota. And he he was you know. We shared a cab from flight or near report to the hotel in minnesota. You know he just kind of put my mind at ease and just help me. Help me get started. Saw hours without about jake and that's cool little storage snake. Fact that he reserve. I i and here. We are seven eight years later. You know doing grinding together on the same team along with orioles walk. Yeah finishing games together. That's crazy he's he's been since day one or at least one. That's that's crazy. That's crazy rich Obviously you are part of a catching tandem with one of the greatest catchers of all time and buster posey What is that been like. What would he learning from him. You trying to emulate anything. can you even plug. It is especially since the last night in gosh to see it can get out of bed and get three or four hundred since it's so impressive but Yeah it's it's been. It's been an absolute honor to be that dude teammate. Of you know he's only a year and a half older than me. It feels like i've been watching your my entire career You know he's he's somebody that after this year. I'm going to have him senators for me. It's going to be hanging over law someday. Just he's he's that guy But you know were were locked permits and in san francisco were were talking. We you know we definitely take a lot of pride in our art game. Prep and he's he's one of the smarter ones. I've been around for sure. I mean there's a reason Giants of won three world series in decades suit. He's he's a big reason for it. Guys absolute just rock solid player San guard day in and day out is is consistent. He's always trying to find new ways of getting better behind. The plate is for that. At and i'd i'd be absolute fool. I wasn't listening to jump constantly constantly. Just i'm just. I'm just trying to you know. Be near the guy and and see if anything can learn anything that particular day brought our you know. I think we've was pretty good partnership and really looking forward to the rest of the year with them. How much he's talk to you. as he's he's changed changes set up a little bit occasionally not all the time but he'll he'll also go down on one knee which he has before he talked to you much about that. Yeah we talked about a lot. I mean it's it's it stinks but at the same time it's kind of funny it's like the both of us had some pretty Unique operations like. I both of my hips. Hic labor repaired You know obviously he had yet. One is at an ankle injury. So we we've been through the wringer a few times now between between the two of us so you know we constantly talking about like things that uh to make it easier like how do you take stress off the join speakers. You know. we're not young anymore like saying world that you do it for long enough it starts to catch up. You gotta find little cheat codes of in being able to get through in weather the storm on a certain debuts we have one hundred sixty two stands right and but the one down is is definitely alleviated. Some some tension. And you know when you're not you're not working as hard back there because you're on the that opens up more opportunities to you feel for power at the point of a bigger received a little bit better. It's just there's just some of the game as ever ever evolving the catching position is that revolving and you know the fact that he's willing and looking to talk to me as well as our. You know catching coach craig. Alba's it's It just shows the guys always trying to get better and it's not for lack of laziness trying to you know find a way this help us hopeless win. Ballgames sitting his body and at my sometime. When is it optimal to do that. And not do that Aussie like he. He does it more than i do. but i think it's because i just i had easier time with my make surgery than he. Did you know different different areas that we got repaired so i i tend not to go with with guys guys on base. But he's figured out a way to kind of dropped that right knee and then keep some pressure on his right foot so we can have something to push off if you need the thrown out and you know his. His arm is a fantastic this year. Which is really really cool But you know. There's there's just not does not one-size-fits-all thank for catching it's like. All our bodies took me differently at how we can toward it and then set it up to be as successful as possible whether it's receiving throwing or or blocking I thought he's done a really good job of of all three of those. Yeah he look he looks like you know hold buster. He likes to talk about finding ways to be a little bit younger. Obviously a great job behind the plate but he looks vintage. Buster spend awesome to watch this team. Is we're wrapping up now but this team as off to a really good start really strong. Start as we're talking Guys are actually tied for first place in the division Which i think was you know. The pundits would probably be surprised by. It's really but still. It's you know nothing wrong with a nice fast start. What is the feeling in the clubhouse about what type of team you guys have The the general feeling in the thing. I've i've heard them most an exit. Super cool here is that we set the klug ost full of baseball players Just absolute grinders You know it's we. We got a few young guys in there. We got mostly some you know. Season seasoned veterans that have just been around and have seen it all and they're just there's no commotion and our officers no there's no clown on our team and it just it feels like we can just be ourselves and help each other for constantly you know talking about you know our previous of. That's you know whoever the next guy up is like what the picture looks like like. We're talking baseball constantly. And we're just were or were found pretty good of ourselves obviously. Yeah it's still early. You don't wanna get ahead of ourselves but the same time by now we. We expect to be winning like our job to win baseball games. This organization is a history of winning and nobody wants to talk about us. That's fine we. We were perfectly happy. Just our little world and it's you know whether it's what we're doing right now we're we're enjoying it or we're having fun is winning is fun but i just think we're thinking about the things we're doing the right things and you know where you put a group of twenty six baseball players out there. It's the the practice probably going to be pretty good not just tools guys not just you know high exit bulow guys guys. Just throw hard like no. We got baseball players group. 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Rock N Roll Archaeology: Episode 20 - Ohio
"Raid on time. Who real low. In cleveland to now own in in june of nineteen sixty nine just about a year before story takes place a spark from a passing train lengthy cuyahoga river on fire rolling into cleveland to lake erie the cuyahoga collected industrial pollution. Along the way don't swim in the cuyahoga went the old joke. You won't drown. you'll melt or burn images of a river on fire. On the nightly news catalyzed public opinion in america the environmental movement mood from the fringes into the center of the political conversation. The first ever earth day was held on april. Twenty second nineteen seventy in nineteen. Seventy two congress passed and president richard. Nixon sign the clean water act it took decades but eventually the cuyahoga and lake erie came back to life. But let's stay right here in early. Nineteen seventy the cuyahoga shaped at the headwaters. It moves swift cold and clean nestled along. Its banks before it makes that big cuyahoga ben and start slowing. north into. Cleveland is the splendid little college town of kent ohio. College towns in america are nice places. Nowhere more so than in the mid west and arbor michigan champagne illinois madison. Wisconsin can't tell. I oh lovely little downtown's right out of a norman rockwell painting stately brick buildings and big green lawns dotted with trees striped with walkways. The university boosts the local economy and lends prestige. The attitude is tolerant even a bit bohemian. There's usually a small but lively art and music scene. Lots of good inexpensive places to eat and drink and gather joseph. Walsh was twenty two years old. An english major at kent state. He'd been there while with a draft. Still on joe was in no hurry whatsoever to finish college. He had something going on the side. A pretty good band called the james gang that gigs around the midwest for decent pay they even had a record deal. They put an album out sixty nine and we're ready to record another one. Joe was a fluid and intelligent guitarist. Natural and the caught the some influential people most notably pete townsend that summer of nineteen seventy. Pete would give the james gang their shot opening for the who on a summer tour of america. But we're a little ahead of ourselves now at this point late nineteen seventy as the spring semester comes to a close. Joe hasn't received the offer. He's still at least half as committed to getting his degree eventually can stay would grant him one not quite a while eighty on christine ellen hinde was nineteen an art major just coasting along classes in horseback riding. Even she'd ask around for the courses with the back professors. She earned just enough credits to not get kicked out. Crissy was mostly interested in dropping acid smoking weed and hanging around the live local music scene in kent in our own telling she was a little bit boy. Crazy to chrissy missed out on all that at firestone high school in akron wasn't much going on in akron. Bud she would sneak out of the house and go to concerts nearby. Cleveland one thing hadn't changed since high school. The guys she was in love with were the guys she'd never met the guys who played in bands so along with drawing and painting. She digging up playing guitar. It was starting to get somewhere with it played in a garage band and had some ideas for songs rattling around chrissy was still shy about singing but in time she would get over that her musical tastes were mostly at odds with what was on american radio at the time she wasn't much for the mellow didn't go for the bulk of the singer. Songwriters the velvet underground early stones and kinks were more her speed. The year before christie's got religion from iggy pop when she heard the stooges first album just partying and drifting at kent. No idea about what was next. Prissy was certain about one thing though determined as hell about it. She was giving out of ohio she would see and experience the wider world twenty one year old. Gerald casali was into a lot of things he could write and draw. He was taking guitar lessons. From joe walsh and he was keenly interested in the visual arts and filmmaking enrolled in the honors program at kent state and just a few weeks away from graduating his friend and classmate mark mothers ball at similar tastes and interests. Jerry was also active with the kent state chapter of students for democratic society. The sds we the people of this generation bread in at least modest comfort house now. In universities looking uncomfortably to the world we inherit this simple declaration opened support here on statement the nineteen sixty two manifesto of the sds further down. It reads we would replace power rooted in possession privilege or circumstance by power and uniqueness rooted in love reflectiveness reason and creativity up. Spent eight years had gone by now and the port. Huron idealism seemed like a bitter joke to jerry. In that time over a million young men had been drafted including guys. He knew growing up going to roosevelt high right there. In kent a lot of them went to vietnam and so far over forty thousand of them had died there. In nineteen seventy public opinion was contradictory. A solid majority was against the war but most americans did not want to simply cut their losses in. Walk away from vietnam president. Nixon promised peace with honor throughout nineteen sixty nine and into nineteen seventy america would cling to this flimsy. Rhetorical straw casualties were tapering off. In american troops. Were coming home in dribs and drabs. A few thousand at a time. Perhaps this new president could find a way and a vietnam that didn't feel like a humiliating surrender but even as he made dovish. Declarations in public and announced troop withdrawals. Nixon massively escalated the air war against north vietnam and right after he was sworn in american. B fifty. Two's began carpet bombing the neighboring country of cambodia. Thirteen months later. On thursday april thirtieth nineteen seventy in a nationally televised speech nixon announced. Us ground forces had invaded cambodia. The years of hope had given way to days of rage. So you're getting into jazz. Jubilees go to chicago just the saying. That's how should they be. Won't you please come to chicago the help the we can bring the by the spring of nineteen seventy the anti war movement in general and the particular or adrift and demoralized. Just a couple of years earlier public. Bean seemed to be with them. But that support proved to be fleeting ephemeral upon taking office. The nixon administration immediately brought the full weight of federal law enforcement down upon them. The chicago seven among them. Tom hayden the author of the port. Huron statement were indicted for inciting the riots at the nineteen sixty eight democratic convention. A circus trials started. In the fall. Of sixty nine and ended the following february acquittals on all the federal conspiracy charges but they ended up going to jail anyway on contempt charges. The trump confirmed something that s the had long suspected they were deeply compromised. Chapters and cells had been infiltrated by undercover. Cops stitches informants. It wasn't just paranoia. The man really was out to get them and there was some serious self inflicted damage the previous summer's sds conference. Elden chicago was chaos disastrous cluster. Fuck that's splintered. The organization one of the factions. That arose out of the ashes of the chicago. Meeting was the weather underground. The weatherman took their moniker from bob. Dylan's subterranean homesick blues. You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. The weather underground would bring the war home. By building bombs and detonating them at draft offices military installations and businesses than contract with the pentagon. They purged their ranks of all but the most hardcore members and started planning a march. Six nine hundred seventy one of their bombs exploded prematurely in a greenwich village townhouse. A massive blast that incinerated three of their own members the survivors scattered and went deep underground. Mcing canto hieaux jerry. Casali was down for the caused but in his own telling the weatherman were a crazy scary bunch and he wanted no part of that. He was left with no outlet for his rage. Gets the machine. Jerry had an inkling a notion that he would use performance art as his weapon but how along with his friends. Mark mothers bond bob lewis. He was still working on that part. Events intervened nixon's thursday night's speech sparked. Friday demonstrations on campuses across america. And kent state was no exception. Jerry was tired of the fight but galvanized just the same. He would suit up and show up and take his place in front chrissy and jo made the scene on the periphery taking in the speeches chanting and cheering this from kent state. University's official history. An anti-war rally was held at noon. On the commons a large grassy area in the middle of campus which had traditionally been the site for various types of rallies and demonstrations fiery speeches against the war and the nixon administration were given a copy of the constitution was buried to symbolize the murder of the constitution because congress had never declared war and another rally was called for noon on monday may fourth. This podcast is intended to be education. Commentary it will discuss adult themes and may use coarse language pantheon. Podcasts presents rock and roll archaeology with hosts christian swain technology and rock and roll now on with diggers. Welcome to twenty twenty one and welcome to the one thousand nine hundred seventy s. I'm christian swain in. This is rock and rookie. Algae on the pantheon podcast network. Pantheon is the podcast network for music. Lovers where you'll find all kinds of great content to fill your earbuds in between episodes of the in our a pantheon. Podcasts dot com. You know where you can find us wherever you get your great listens. I'm really happy to tell you. We will be getting these out a bit quicker now. I know we've said this before. And of course regardless. It still takes a minute to do them so while you wait. You know there's pantheon. Dozens of quality music podcasts. Just about every day. We drop something cool in new for you including if i can Shameless self-promotion here Sister podcasts to my very own deeper digs in rock again pantheon. Podcast dot com book market. Come back often. We love it. Just do it Okay long and short is that the nineteen seventies are about as different as the nineteen sixties. Were in the fifties. The story just gets bigger and bigger. We really need to pick focus points in try to tell interrelated stories that we hope will add up to a good understanding of rock and roll in this decade. Don't worry all the elements of music culture and technology will still be at each episode. But we know the stories. Rapidly changing and You you'll see some of the change. Come in in this episode More focused means less research to make all the elements together You know the last two episodes we did nineteen sixty nine part. One part two those were huge endeavors to make all those story elements come together. That's why part of the reason why it took so long. So if we can streamline this We can focus more on singular subjects Just because we have to just no way can go about it in the same way that we did in the nineteen fifties and certainly in nineteen sixty in the nineteen sixties and certainly in the nineteen fifties. Much easier way to tell the stories But we figured out a good way to do this So no concern on your part. Okay guarantee all be happy with the results. It just may be a little bit shorter a little bit more concise I think th that. That's probably the way we're going to go. We're gonna pick our targets and and still be able to tell The compelling reason why music culture and technology created this feedback loop all right real quick. We have sponsor We'd like to talk a little bit about harmon audio if you're unfamiliar with harmon They're a manufacturer of many great musical products. One of which is a k. g. And you know what they sent us. This podcast is essential package so it came with the microphone. Usb microphone plugs directly into your computer and it also has its own compression and pre amp in it so no external preempt but is needed. It's it's really cool If he asked me very price conscious plus It's it's a high quality bike front. Sounds pretty good. Doesn't it here so we also got headphones Because there's a headphone jack Right in the microphone. Very very cool and something that you can use for just about anything Certainly at a price point that you can use for just about anything Not just making podcast but You know Vocal duties on a song or even just to make yourself sound like a god or goddess. Remember we are pantheon On your zoom call. It's really that simple. Isn't that so go. Check out a harmony. Or or go checkout ak g you get your good musical equipment all right so like i said up top. We've cleared the nineteen sixties. The nine thousand nine hundred seventy s are here at last rock and roll is now a mature artform and for the next twenty some odd years it's going to dominate popular culture. Like nothing has before. Or since we're going to argue at least you can think of this one as a transitional episode and also maybe an epitaph for the sixties. We're also introducing some people and starting. Some story arcs that we'll be compelling and important as we move through the rock and roll years all right that's it. Let's get going welcome back again. This is episode twenty ohio. There is a revolution come. You will not be like revolution of the past. It will originate with the individual and with culture and it will change the political structure only as its final act will not require violence to succeed. It cannot be successfully resisted by violence. This is the revolution of the new generation. The protest rebellion their culture close music drugs and liberated lifestyle. That's from the back. Cover blurb for a book called the greening of america written by yale. Professor named charles rush. It's a breathless panegyric. To the ascendancy of the hippie counterculture was a big bestseller in nineteen seventy and it was largely true back in chapter sixteen. We opened with the death of hippie. The mock funeral staged by the san francisco diggers just before the summer of love. It was a noble but ultimately doomed effort to take back the youth culture narrative from corporate america the diggers saw it all coming a few years later. Now in nineteen seventy middle school kids. Show up for class and bell bottom jeans up at the blackboard. The teachers wearing them to a psychedelic school. Bus rolling down the street. That wasn't the merry pranksters distributing lsd. That was the partridge family singing. Come on get happy in a wholesome tv. Sitcom america just couldn't get enough of that groovy counterculture except for the politics america. Wanted no part of the politics gallup public opinion poll from nineteen seventy recorded. Single-digit approval ratings for the weatherman. They came in one point. Higher than the ultra right-wing. John birch society in now is about as far as it went. The weatherman predicted a revolution. And they were half right. Their political revolution died boring. But the cultural revolution the commodification mainstreaming of rock slash youth culture. That revolution was complete and total. Victory by nineteen seventy the fashion. The music that hippie aesthetic were all put to work serving the almighty god of the marketplace radical and extreme became buzzwords for selling laundry soap and soda pop by the time people virtually who was strictly from commercial. Stoop on tv. The mod squad was a hit. Primetime cop show sitcoms like the partridge family and saturday. Morning cartoons like josie and the pussycats. The first kid show that featured a black woman as a main character by the way at the movies. The woodstock documentary was a smash critically acclaimed and he was one of the highest grossing films of nineteen seventy on broadway hair and jesus christ superstar. Were long run. He hits and they hit the road to play to packed houses in peoria and blocks for better or worse from now until forever rock and roll is commodified. It will also become increasingly professionalized. It's beyond ironic a form of expression that set out to subvert the dominant paradigm has become the dominant paradigm diet. Coke get that coca cola taste without the calories commercial rock get that revolutionary feeling but without the actual revolution. It's the way of things. Now keep it dope with religion sex and tv. And you think you're so clever classless a. You're still fucking peasants as far as c. Glass he'll to okay. That's kind of harsha bit cynical. We realize it's not like rock music. Just all of a sudden started sucking right around. Nineteen seventy very much to the contrary the early seventies kick ass musically and before long will see a counter counter revolution led by a new generation of rockers. And we've already met a couple of them chrissie hynde the pretenders and jerry casali of devaux discussion. This thing we choose to call the rock paradox. It takes many forms like the paradox of making big bucks off of something that is explicitly and very loudly anti-capitalist. The song we just played working class hero by john. Lennon is an example the absolute classic case in just a few years in early nineteen seventy-three money by pink floyd will be a major worldwide hit this biting critique of capitalist greed will be a commercial smash that anchors one of the most consequential and profitable rock albums ever made. Here's another one in. Its early years. Rock and roll got much of its dynamism from the tension between the mainstream and the underground by nineteen seventy. It's big enough to contain the mainstream and the alternative the fake and the authentic all within the same industry. Now they're just competing factions under the same umbrella an industry that manufactures what can't be manufactured. What the rock writer lester bangs in one of his more acerbic mrs called the industry of cool and yet another one seventies glam rock artists will send up the very idea of rock stardom celebrated even as they harshly critique it it hit speak paradox with nineteen seventy one's ziggy stardust wherein. The rock star. David bowie offers a cautionary tale about being a rock star. Starting here in the nineteen seventies and going forward rock will oftentimes be defined by its own contradictions. Burn thank you. We can always count on. Motown bring the fun. Even a tough transitional kind of year like nineteen seventy but there's a darker context around motown's offering of fluffy pop fun. The jackson five put out three number. One singles nineteen seventy but when stars war on the motown subsidiary. Tamla top them all in sales and airplay. By year's end bala confusion by the temptations was also a big hit and seventy and it became one of the temps signature tunes. They're mixing socially conscious message with funk and soul and psychedelic rock now busy clearing out the landing zone for the imminent arrival of the parliament funk. Delic mothership the incomparable transcendence db wonders scored his own smash in one thousand nine hundred seventy with signed sealed delivered but well before the year is done. St will be back at work on a tougher sound on songs that pointedly addressed the gritty realities of life in black america. Mo town in detroit and stacks in memphis two thirds of the soul triangle. We described back in chapter six and thirteen. The music of black america is transitioning again taking in current events responding to them and ruin up something a lot tougher far more topical than abc. Easy as one two three early morning. December fourth nineteen sixty nine backed by the fbi chicago police wielding shotguns submachine guns raided the apartment of twenty one year. Old fred hampton. Fred was chair of the illinois black panthers and the deputy chair of the national. There's he was murdered by police while he slept beside his girlfriend. Deborah nine months pregnant with their son. No warning no knock. They just kicked in the door and started shooting over. One hundred shots were fired. One shot one came from fred's bodyguard twenty two year old mark sitting by the front door. Cradling shotgun discharged. his shotgun. harmlessly into the floor as he fell over dead in a hail of bullets. The rest of the shots all came from the cops. It took twenty five years to uncover the facts but thanks to the freedom of information act. We now know it was pure murder. A premeditated government hit sanctioned at the highest levels with malice. Aforethought an undercover. Fbi agent dosed. Fred's food with a sedative the night before to make sure he was fast asleep when the chicago. Pd made their predawn raid under fred hampton's leadership the illinois. Panthers organized free meals for school kids. They started a free clinic on the south side and raised awareness about sickle cell anemia. Fred advocated violence only in self-defense. And committed the panthers to cooperating with other groups to bring about systemic social change. None of that mattered to the fbi. Under j. edgar hoover and richard nixon fred hampton was deemed a radical threat to be terminated with extreme prejudice the illinois attorney general after a perfunctory internal investigation ruled hamptons. Police murder a justifiable side. There was no federal investigation. We'll come back to the story and the music around it in a later chapter right now. It's meant to illustrate a point about backlash and about state-sponsored violence bad as it was in chicago at kent state and elsewhere why college kids were just getting a little taste. What black america had been enduring for many generations early spring of nine hundred seventy four of the whitest dudes around crosby stills. Nash and young released their long awaited. Follow up album deja vu. It was the product of about eight hundred cocaine fueled hours in the recording studio about twice as much diamonds. The beatles spent insurgent pepper deja-vu shipped two million units on release. It was multi-platinum. Right out of the gate. Deja-vu sold huge but it was overcoat in over-cooked produced to the nth degree the soaring harmonies and type production. Values were there but deja vu. Had little of the charm and authenticity. That made cbsn's debuts special the title cut is amazing. One of crosby's finest. It's also a cut in pay studio creation. That couldn't really be replicated. Live stephen stills arrangement of joni mitchell's woodstock turn her folk meditation into a balls out majestic rock anthem. Graham nashes teach. Your children is sweetly idealistic. Kinda of like graham is and it's propelled along by jerry. Garcia is exquisite pedal steel track. And of course throughout the album though. Spine tingling vogue armies Saw so deja vu is not without its moments. But it's got some real clunkers on a to graham nash cleanly sickly sweet our houses enough to induce diabetes for us. It's bottoms out with almost cut. My hair wherein david crosby interjects paranoid coquette dribble into a smoking stills young guitar duel neil. Young's contributions are slight. He was playing with crazy horse during the afternoons and going to the studio to cut tracks with c. n. y. at night help us a wistful slow. Remembrance of neal's canadian hope tan was a throw away from the crazy horse sessions. most of neal's instrumental parts were stepped on the final mix. Or just wipe. Completely stephen stills oversaw the mixed down without input from neil if neal was put out by that he didn't stick around to make his unhappiness known. Neil be neil. Knee was already onto the next thing. Here's neil and the horse and a quote from jimmy mcdonough taken from his two thousand two book shaky. A biography of neil young ask much sixth and seventh. The band played acqua sets over at fillmore east. And these recordings capture the horse and all of the glory head back and is closed as he weighing some brain six. Scream out of all blackie young. Looks like he's lost in the stars behind the scenes though. Not everything was groovy. Come on baby. Let's go downtown tower. Danny whitten sings on his one contribution to the fillmore shows and he was alluding to his new passion in his life. Which was heroin myself. i love you. They sharing the punch taking the acid test. Passing the joint. That was the sixties. Maybe i'll be there to shake your hand. Maybe i'll be there to share the land when we all live together. The seventies are off doing lines in the bathroom. And i caught you knocking on my cellar gone gone. The damage done. Rockstars are multimillionaires now. Heroine coke coker in the party favours. The new elite drug culture so closely intertwined with rock culture is no longer turn on tune in. It's more like tune it out in turning inward turn it on yourself sometimes to the point where there's no coming back but there's a whole decade ahead of us plenty of time to talk more about this stuff. We'll get there right now. Let's check in in our college kids joe and khorasan jerry and you know what champagne cocaine. They're in college. They can't afford that shit in nineteen seventy or in any other year g. Beer boone's farm apple wine. Smoke some homegrown. Maybe some pep pills for finals week. And maybe tab of acid for the show maybe all the above around do again bond buyer at the rotc building. Tell me in your a. did this a things. Men and the restless Bring yup stop after the friday afternoon. Rally the crowd dispersed. But the anger didn't on water street students lit fires in trashcans. Threw bottles a cop. Cars disrupted traffic and started breaking windows. Someone's smashed bank window and alarm went off and the cop showed up in force at twelve thirty and the mayor declared a state of emergency and closed down all the downtown bars not a bright decision it just increased. The size of the crowd gathered in the street combined. City and county police forces used tear gas to push the crowd back to the university in ended around two am in a tense standoff. The city police would not cross the border onto university property but any student who ventured even one step off campus got roughed up and tossed in jail. Fifteen arrests were made the following day. The mayor instituted a curfew and banned the sale of alcohol firearms and gasoline within city limits. This is kevin c. Smith from his two thousand thirteen re combo dna far from virgin further violence. The measure seemed to have precisely the opposite effect by the end of the evening around. One thousand students who would most likely have otherwise. Been downtown on a saturday. Night had gathered around the rotc building which had long been a source of irritation among antiwar activists mentality to cold the wooden structure was bombarded with the combination of rocks garbage cans and road flares. At this point the national guard was called in and they quickly dispersed the crowd with more tear gas but the rotc building was already gutted by flames and it would take firefighters hours to finally extinguish it. the protesters had got the hoses bridgestone. Pole ohio governor stewart rhodes was to move up. He was a hotly contested race for the republican nomination for us senator from ohio. The primary election was three days away on tuesday. May six e wasn't going to miss an opportunity to do some law and order a grandstanding sunday morning. Roads held a press conference where he spewed incendiary rhetoric at these students then. He pounded his desk and declared martial law on the kent campus. He summoned a full battalion. A- bohio national guard to make it stick all demonstrations were banned and the guardsmen. Were ordered to shoot on sight lueders and anyone seen cutting fire hoses. Monday morning was tense but quiet. Classes resumed or cut short ten thirty. Am the word started to spread around campus. The rally scheduled for noon was on guard or no guard ban or no ban There are numerous accounts of the kent state massacre. The story has been well told elsewhere we refer you to the show notes for links to our research. The simple backs tell the story pretty well at twelve twenty four pm accompany one hundred sixteen soldiers the national guard lined up raise their rifles and fired into a dense crowd of unarmed students. At the time they opened fire the nearest student was at least fifty feet away. Thirteen seconds sixty seven shots nine seriously wounded one of them. Paralysed for life and for dead for the killers. There would be no consequences. Nobody was ever arrested. Fine demoted or disciplined in any way for the events at kent state that day jerry. Casali saw them raise rifles and thought it was joke. a bluff the guardsmen. We're just posturing. Then they opened fire. He turned to run immediately. Saw a nineteen year old alison krauss crumpled to the ground fatally wounded as soon as the shooting stopped. One of the guardsmen. Got on a bullhorn in. Everyone's stay put. Don't move shaking. Jerry sat down and so and heard a girl about thirty feet away kneeling and gesturing wildly screaming for help only later when he saw the photograph did he realize that it was mary. Ann vecchio kneeling over the body of twenty year. Old jeffrey miller that shot taken by photojournalist and kent state grad and john hilo is one of the iconic images of the twentieth century the one him a pulitzer prize amid the smoke and chaos of the aftermath chrissie. Hi just shut down. She knew geoffrey miller. He was dating one of christie's girlfriends. She just sat down cross legged on the grass and wouldn't move. Some friends found her there. In a near catatonic state. The softly spoke to her gently picked her up and carried her away to safety later. That day chrissy caught a ride back to her parents. House in akron. Crecy never went back to college. Joe walsh was running late for the rally. He was hurrying around the corner of a nearby building when he heard what he thought was a string of firecrackers. Then the screams reached him the panic. The horror of the situation quickly sunk. In and joe knew right away he would not be finishing school at kent state the whole town. The whole scene just died. Joe said in a twenty twenty interview with marc maron on the w. t. f. podcast. He accepted the to offer left and never looked back. Can state university was evacuated completely enclosed for nearly a month as a graduating senior jerry. Caselli came back to campus one last time to pick up his diploma. All i can tell you is that a completely and utterly changed my life. He said in two thousand and three. I was a white hippie boy. And then i saw exit wounds from m one rifles out of the backs of two people. I knew cute re the software. Neil young there's a time tested formula for pop songs. Tell a good story to a strong beat. Come up with a sing along hook for a course lather. Rinse repeat folks have been doing it. For as long as we can. Remember using that formula to excess anger and convey anguish. Is something else entirely though. Only the most gifted writers can take those feelings and we them into a hit song becomes a enduring cultural artifact. Neil young is one of those. That's the rare company. He keeps a songwriter about a week. After the kent state shootings on may twelfth. see us. and why did a concert. in denver. A warm-up show for national summer tour. Neil had been touring all spring with crazy horse. Honing in refining the songs that would inhabit his third solo album after the gold rush released in august nineteen seventy and his sublime nineteen seventy seventy-two release harvest. Neil felt easy felt at home plane with the horse. He didn't really need see us and why didn't want to mess with it. Any of it but a deal is a deal. Neil reluctantly told the fellas in crazy horse to sit tight a few months. While he toured with david. And stephen and graham they made it through one night. The denver show was a shambolic disjointed performance. The audience didn't seem to notice or care they loved it anyway. but rapturous response didn't fool neil one bit. It just pissed him off even more. The other guys was a bus to afterwards graham. Nash asked rhetorically question of his bandmates. If the music's not there then why the fuck would we want to do it in front of people. Nobody had a good answer over the next few days. The tour was on again off again several times. Only the personal intervention of amid oregon. The president of atlantic records saved it. Ahmet reminded the boys that halls were sold out. Reservations were made staff was hired and millions of dollars down the drain. The tour abruptly cancelled amid gave his temperamental superstars. The rock and roll version of you guys do that and you'll never work in this town again. The four them manage to set ego and grievance aside and agreed to give it another go. Rehearsals would begin. May twenty first in. La here's the rolling stone writer. David brown from his excellent twenty nineteen biography of cs ny goop scattered briefly to look its collective wounds with crosby and young heading north to the redwoods in case pesky zero on the morning of may nineteenth four days after the band meeting. Someone of the house went for groceries and at the time the country's most popular photo driven news weekly was life magazine. Tragedy at kent. Read the cover line next to a photo of students leaning over the body befallen man the photos. That took eleven pages of the magazine offered visceral chronicle of the events as crosby watched young picked up a guitar and in short order wrote and sang zone. He called ohio about soldiers. Nixon students being gunned down Don three weeks. After the shooting crosby stills nash and young convenient for a late night recording session at the record plant hollywood after a few run throws they went ahead and ruled tape for civil takes. Interestingly it was recorded like neil young tends to do things live the studio. Even the vocals. Stephen thought it should have one more verse but he might have his own and contented himself with plane. Some hot guitar and singing backups. After a few hours they went with one of the early takes because they all love. David's anguish cries during the final chant of four dead in ohio. Crosby damn near broke the microphone on that one eleven days later atlantic released ohio as a single. The b. side was an acoustic gem. Written by stephen stills find the cost of freedom it peaked at number fourteen. A lot of mainstream radio stations wouldn't play ohio. That probably helped sell. It just added to the buzz around the song. Some call it the last great protest song. Not really there've been others. Since then kneels own rocketed. The free world comes to mind immediately or green day's american idiot or for that matter. Twenty eight teams and this is america by daniel. Glover insanely great. Sohn's all of them but we can't think of a protest song since nineteen seventy was so highly specific and immediate in that regard. Ohio is definitely unique. Great fucking song to by the way we love it. When neil young spits out some righteous anger so we'll put down a marker here this is an inflection point so diggers if you were tired of all our talk about the new left in america and its ties to rock and roll. Well we've got some great news for you. That discussion is wrapping up like hunter s. thompson said We've quoted him a couple of times now. The wave crest and crashed and it rolled back. We will continue to place rock music and rock artists into the cultural and social context of the times. But we'll approach it from other angles from here on out. We're just gonna leave this right here. We're moving on to distant lands. Now and here's a little taste of what's next and if i say count mean i'm christian swain and this is rock and roll archaeology. Thanks for listening. Stay safe and keep up the rockin payment bag rock and roll archaeology. It's written by. Richard evans and christians wayne produced and hosted by christian swain. I'll sound design and incidental music by jerry danielson busy signals studios find all our shows notes and leaks at pantheon. Podcasts dot com all can be purchased or streaming. Wherever you get your great music. Please pick up these amazing tracks. Contact us on social pantheon. Podcasts on facebook and instagram. Tweet us at pantheon pods.
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Get back on the practice tomorrow in preparation for the dolphins in miami on sunday the team announced today a limited number of two game packs including luxury club seats for games against the steelers on monday night football and the ravens the regular season finale there now available at steelers ravens matchup. That started as a thanksgiving night. Game has been pushed to tomorrow is on at this moment for a three forty kickoff tomorrow afternoon. Why three forty. Nbc has the game and nbc is committed to showing the eighty-eight rockefeller center. Christmas tree lighting ceremony. Tomorrow night i give you twenty twenty. No uc see football this week. So no look fickle. Show dez ritter one of thirty five. Quarterbacks named the davey o'brien quarterback class of twenty twenty today. That makes him an official candidate to win. The davey. o'brien national quarterback award. The junior has sixteen. Touchdown passes in eleven rushing touchdowns also safety james wiggins named the watchlist today for the mayoclinic clinic comeback player of the year award. He missed two thousand nine hundred after an injury in the opener a year ago ohio state football resumed activities today. Hoping to play at michigan state on saturday will have state needs to play both the remaining regular season games to be eligible for the big ten conference championship game. The college football playoff rankings. Round two weeks to come out tonight. Just after seven o'clock we will get your instant reaction and take your calls as that announcement is delivered the acc announcing late this afternoon. That notre dame and wake forest set for this saturday has been cancelled. That means notre dame will now have two weeks to prepare for the acc championship game which should be against clemson and a rematch college basketball today. It's number twenty kentucky versus number seven kansas. It's at nine thirty tonight. In the champions classic at bankers life fieldhouse in indianapolis catch the action on. Espn fifteen third of the opener. In that classic is number six duke versus number eight michigan state locals underway with western kentucky. That's on fox sports. Thirteen sixty down the dial. The dayton flyers open their season at home versus eastern illinois. Tonight at seven eastern is the third opponent. The flyers have scheduled for their opener. Bellarmine was originally scheduled followed by corn state. Both of those teams had to be had to cease basketball operations due to covid nineteen concerns the safter noon who hoosiers blown out by number seventeen sixty six to forty four and purdue rolls over oakland ninety three to fifty the reds named eric jaeger's as their new assistant pitching filling caleb coffins role. Jaeger's was the organization's assistant minor league pitching coordinator a year ago. Tomorrow will be an interesting day for major league baseball. It is non tender deadline. Actually the official deadline at eight tomorrow night when teams have to either agree to go to our nation with the player which guarantees that player a raise or release that player the financial hit from the pandemic expectedly too many players simply being cut and walked away from the reds. Have decisions to make him the likes of curt casali. Brian goodwin archie. Bradley and michael lorenzen. Stay tuned. Big names could be released. Including kyle schwarzer gary sanchez josh bell and others and fc cincinnati. Is frankie amaya one day after his. Call up to camp for the us national team well tested positive for covid. Nineteen after arriving in camp in florida and that is now off the twenty year old. Was the number one. Pick in the nfl super draft in two thousand nineteen of fc cincinnati. For everything else. You've missed it. Do this go to my blog. You'll find it at seven hundred. Wwl w dot com. The blog is presented by me each and every day it's got reds and bengals and bearcats xavier and kentucky. It's got cast of interviews and more. It's all in one spot. Check it out. When you get a chance you'll find at seven hundred wwl w dot com all right. We begin here. I want to begin with your reaction to something that was revealed sunday afternoon. And i will admit sunday's bengals game was one of the more i don might have been the most difficult bengals game. I've had to sit through. There were various points where i honestly thought and i was resting comfortably in my chair in my office that i was going to fall asleep. There was a moment at halftime. I thought you know. Can i set like a timer. Could i take a nap during halftime. And be up for the third quarter. I was reduced to that with that game on sunday but with five. Oh five to go in that game. The bengals were down. Sixteen to ten against the giants. Paul brown stadium. And i created a tweet. And if you haven't followed us on twitter during a bengals game it is fantastic much. Better than the games we do tweets i got presented by birla cords and the whole idea is to kind of follow along and then when the mood strikes you when you see something you want to react to during the game then you create a tweet and tag me in an incentive and take all the best reactions as they happen in real time during the game and i put them on the blog. I got top twenty reactions to the game and it's usually like a roller coaster of emotions. The up and down on the angst and the anger and excitement. Well the reaction. I got from. The poll. question is where. I'd like to start tonight. The question was simply this down. Sixteen to ten with five minutes and five seconds left. Are you routing for a game. Winning drive for the bengals down. Sixteen to ten with five. Oh five to go. Are you routing for a game. Winning drive for the bengals. I will give you the results of that poll and then i will seek an explanation as we continue. Thanks for being here tonight. Settle and we've got a lot of work to do. It's the ukraine sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet on seven hundred. Wnw friendliness he health traffic center home to the nationally. Recognized pancreatic cancer center. Our care plans backed by scientific research and physician at late stages of the game. Five minutes to go bengals are a touchdown away from taking the lead there down. Sixteen to ten five. Oh five to go. And i tweeted innocent. Tweet unscientific tweet. I said are you routing for a game winning drive by the bengals. Final numbers seventy percent. No and i've been thinking about that since sunday and i've been thinking about how. How contorted how how warped you might say how perverted it has become in in our approach to air quotes here rooting for the bengals. And i wonder if you find yourself conflicted from that standpoint thinking on sunday. What's the wind really gonna mean verses. What might come out of the loss. Let that sink in for a second in. Here's what really hit me in putting this together. Think of the last three years go back two years ago. Many were rooting for the end of the marvin lewis era. Let's have this thing. Crashing burn so finally. After sixteen years. The marvin lewis era ends. We spent last season chasing the number one. Pick in the draft joe burrow. The chase was fueled by losing we rooted for it this year. The chase now appears to be for the best offense of. I'm in the country. Panay sewell of oregon for at least three consecutive years. And this is why use. The words contorted worked. Perhaps perverted rooting has taken us in this direction. And i wonder if you find yourself in conflict with what i'm saying. Perhaps in agreement. With what i'm saying. But perhaps a bit brokenhearted in what i'm say two years ago. It wasn't rooting to win out to make the playoffs. It was closer to losing out to make a change force. Mike brown's hand finally last year. It was i don't want him to get. What are they doing against the dolphins. Don't come back what are you doing. You're going to blow the number one. Pick in the draft and this year seven out of every ten people on sunday and an nfl game with the hometown team in possession of the football with the clock. Ticking it five oh five the go and a chance to win it winning which is something. The staff current staff has done four times in the last twenty seven games said of seven out of every ten said no. I'm not rooting for a game. Winning drive dad. That just shows where where we are right. Now we're the organization is think of what the organization has done to you to me to us. I feel a sense of nothingness without joe burrow. It's a sense of nothingness. What is there if you watch what i watched on sunday. What what is there to eighty one this year. Four twenty two and one with this coaching staff. In fact this team right now is facing if they don't win at least two more games. It's going to wind up the worst two year period in the history of the franchise this is. This is what i was doing yesterday. I was looking up. I said all right. What's the fewest number of games won in consecutive years. In the history of this franchise right now. They have four. The record is six thousand nine hundred. Ninety three ninety four bengals in back to back seasons won a total of six games. That was the david shula. That was klingler. Blake pickens query. That was that group over two years. They won six games. There were two periods where the bengals won seven games over two years. The sixty eight sixty nine. That were the first two years in existence for the franchise and they were fourteen game seasons. And then there was the bruce goslett one thousand nine hundred ninety nine bengals the blake o'donnell the pick and scott that period. They won seven. Anybody see this team winning two more games this year. I don't think they're going to be favored the rest of the year. I don't think it's reasonable to believe they're going to win. Game the rest of the year and we are looking at four wins over a two year period. Which would officially be the darkest lease successful biggest failure in a two year period in the history of bengals football it has left us in now the third consecutive year considering many going ahead and saying i don't want them to win winter. What's your reaction to that. Five one three seven four nine seven thousand one eight hundred the big one pounds seven hundred on a t and t. I remember walking into paul brown stadium each Each monday last year for bengals line. We would do bengals line from paul brown stadium this year. That's not feasible. Because of the protocols but i remember getting out of my car every monday once it reached six seven eight nine over ten eleven in thinking to myself as it got out of the car and grab by my my bag of notes and all the prep i don. I took the bag through over my shoulder. And i started the walk into the stadium and i thought to myself each of those monies and said what the hell are we gonna talk about. Wh- what am i going to possibly ask a player and you could see it. Looks the players faces when they would come and sit down with us they look at it they shake and say. Hey how are you. And then they sit down and kind of put on the headsets and they all had that look gloss on there. I was like whoa. What is there to say. we're oh and seven now. No one hour. Oh and eight nine. Ten eleven watching this team. Sunday minus joe burrow what. The bengals are minus. Joe burrow. I felt the same way i think for the first time in my life i really thought in wondered to myself if i wasn't in the media wasn't hosting bengals shows. I'm not sure. I would have watched on sunday. Your calls as we continue. Thanks for being a part of the show tonight. We're just getting revved up. Its ukraine sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet on seven hundred. Wwl w news traffic and weather news radio. Seven hundred w l w cincinnati republican secretary of state calls out there. I'm lance mcalister. Are you one of the One of the seventy percent or one of the thirty. I wonder how conflicted you are. When put in that context that i think a large number for three consecutive years have been left to root for losing for this organization. That doesn't think that says a lot more about the organization's earlier than it does you. you're just reacting. You didn't do it. I said this before. The break i i'll say it again. I don't believe if i weren't in this role where i asked to be a guest host. Dave lapham on bengals line their show every monday night that i co host a bengal show for our station with rocky on thursday nights and host. This show. I don't think i would have watched the bengals on sunday. It was painful. This team is painful. They played the dolphins this week. I went back and looked. Because i thought this was the case and then the numbers were even worse than i thought. They beat the dolphins here at paul brown stadium and twenty eight t and they were four and one. Remember that game at paul brown stadium. I want to say the bengals had a defensive score. I remember the celebration of the end zone. They were four and one at that point since that point in the twenty eighteen season. This team is six thirty one and one six thirty one. And one under exact taylor. Four twenty two and one prompting this question from paul junior of the atlantic yesterday when you guys are or twenty two and one how do you sell inside the building that things are still headed in the right direction. Whether that be in the locker room or even in the front office we can occasion with the players. We show him the tape. We show them where the mistakes are. We show him the directions. We're headed in the right way. Oftentimes this thing has come down to one play and we gotta we gotta find that way to make that one play at the end of the game and we just haven't done it yet but you again all i can say is that we stand in front of the team at the end of the game winner loss. You preach those guys. You know that the they're all in it together in a believe in what we're doing and they can see it because they see every day in practice they see it on the game tape. They know where we're close. We're not getting done yet. And that's our focus is is keeping these guess together. That hasn't been as difficult and so might think it is. Just because we're we're trying to build it the right talent and character combined and in that has really helped us through these trying times and you know the other just you just keep doing everything that we believe in and keep making progress and i know there's a day we're gonna bust on this wall and there's going to be great times ahead. I know that right now. It's it's very difficult. Sometimes when you deal with these losses. But i also know what our future holds for us and we gotta keep working towards that in these two years. We've endured will service service incredibly well in the future when audible games. We're playing for championships. These will be times that we look back on. Reflect on is almost necessary. For for where we being blah blah blah blah blah blah. Remember the old charlie brown episodes in the teacher. The classroom want want want wall. Won't won't walk walk mall won't won't wall charlie. Sit in the classroom. Like what the hell's going on. That's where we are where it seventy percent on sunday saying game winning dry. I'm just go ahead and lose this. We'll take the pick. We wanted a coaching change. Two years ago one of the number one pick last year we need the number the number three pick in the best offensive. I mean this year. Bengals football rooting for losing. That's how they've now positioned us as fans go to the phones. We begin in covington craig. Welcome sportstalk good evening insulin. This show here. I'm not gonna lie about bengals. Sam brown sam. My wife visit bengals fan from the standpoint of the betterment. How's the bengals keep losing. You're gonna get draft choices. Maybe zac taylor will learn from his mistakes that i doubt but you never know but really what are they playing for right now. Pregnant people and get more people experience. Try some new things could be great. Thanks for the call how. 'bout that a browns fan weighing in first tonight. Let's go to bridgetown gregory. Welcome to sports talk for taking my call. I got a different Perspective than at least a better way to you. Say politic on opinion. Don't look at it this routing Losing and now. I'm going into that game like i told myself i wasn't gonna get upset. No matter what happened i myself. I have to watch the watch at least the first half zero patients and not be able to get geo off the waiver. Wire eleven plan all years. The sat on both there was no chance that i was gonna play either one of them and that was clearly the right decision. You gotta think of it as rooting for the bigger picture. I choose to look at it. It's the only way. I can figure out the way while continuing containing watch. No i feel. I know exactly what you're saying gregory. Thanks for the call me. That's that's the point of the the the this topic. Right of the shoot i used. The words contorted in warped. Think of what we've discussed in the first forty five minutes. Think of what. A normal fan base does in reaction to a professional winning franchise and think where they have left us in terms of how we've taken the original concept the point of being a fan rooting for good things success. Happiness and victory in how it's been turned in twisted and contorted and warped and then presented to you and it's oh down by six with five minutes to go. We got the ball. Do not win this game. We need the draft. Pick for three years. We've had to think that way. I wonder as i say that. And you articulate your feelings if that moves anybody anybody in that organization six forty six you create sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet seven hundred wwl w lent who've been began one. Our hour john brennan's bearcats kicked off their season against lipscomb spicer whole lot of movement up near the top. But certainly there are questions in play concern notre dame news today and the idea of what if with ohio state and how ohio states resume might compare to others including the uc. Bearcats will get into that. I will take your instant reaction. We had more college football conversation last week. In reaction to the poll or the The the rankings. They were released then. We have had the entire season combined. I don't know we'll have as much this week. Because it's not new and there won't be a whole lot of movement but i will certainly welcome your reaction to the seven o'clock hour. We'll add some reds into the mix and the seven o'clock hour. We'll have some fun like we're not having already we'll have some fun in the Eight o'clock hour tonight. Thanks for all the tweets. Twitter is active. It is bird up. I'm atlanta mcallister. I would be honoured if you follow dislike. I'm honored that barley corns presents. The twitter feed every day. they have The patio open a little chilly tonight. Obviously with heaters. But they've pickup. We did pick up the other night. there's delivery gift cards for the holidays from barley corns three locations in northern kentucky. Berlin corns get over here. Zac taylor was also asked yesterday at two eight and one this year at four twenty two and one in a year plus about the pressure he might be feeling would just four wins in two years. Do you feel any extra pressure personally as you get closer to the new year too. I feel pressure every single too urgent to do my job. The best i can and it shouldn't change if you believe in the way that you're approaching things and what your vision is it shouldn't change based on biz losses. We totally guys. We want consistent players walk in building every single day. We need to know to expect from them out. I sure as heck not going to be different in the dow was the data showed up on the job Believing what the staff is s these players to do we've at the players baden and they know that this is the right way to do it. And we're not going to just because we're not gonna change our personalities or the way we go about our business because of the trials. He's not happy. Vow is what it sounds like. And i'm i'm more more often than not. I'm zac taylor guy. I wanted to win. It's hard to dislike the guy you can. You can think he can't coach but it'd be impossible to dislike the guy but i just i've i'm so far past those words. Those talking points. Those bullet points week after week. After week. after week we had to sharonville adam. Welcome is sportstalk. Hey lantau you doing. I'm hanging in there. How about you about the man there to make fun. I've got some say to the seventy percent from sunday. Yeah please do that is you. Don't root against your team i. I'm a firm believer in that. I mean i've been a fan. Since i was a little kid and my dad was at the freezer bowl and the eighty nine super bowl in miami. I carry the tradition on. And you know basically i. It's painful to watch i. I understand people saying that. I listened the majority of the time in the last couple of years My life day. Love listening to him. Call the game But you know if you look for silver lining and losing. That's fine but you don't intentionally root for That just takes away from the spirit of the game and you know just from having pride in playing And as far as draft picks go we can look at past examples. You know. Chad came around to tj came in round seven. We got chrome ride back in the day. The ten rounder. But i think i think in this case specifically atom i think the initial reaction is the fear for joe's well wellbeing in the obvious need for an offensive lineman in if they get at least as high as the number three pick which they have right. Now they're gonna have their pick of the best lime into the country. And i think i think clearly a large number find that more important than winning a four foot one five more football games. What would you would you on the scale. It's if you were to win a couple of more games. Let's not get crazy and say they win three or four or five. Say they double their win. Total from a year ago wind up at four. What's more important doubling the window to get to four or securing the best offensive. I'm in the country to protect joe burrow. Well obviously we gotta protect joe. He's a great kid. I think he'll be back. And i think he'll be back strong. I just you know it's hard to hindsight's always twenty twenty. We can say that we shouldn't started but then we'd have the same naysayers going all well if we would've started them. You know we would have done this so it. Six half dozen the other like i just really feel like we do need to get him protection If that comes in the first three big that's great. Let it be the fate of what happens. I don't think i'm just saying that. We should root for that but if it happens then then it's meant to be that's going right and there'll be plenty of great people available. It's just getting lucky and having the you know the foresight to see who was going to work good on the team and who's going to protect you know what they do in college. We both know doesn't always equate to what they do when they get on the field. The nfl atom. It's a great call. Thanks but he called against up time. All right thank you. That was fun. We're good that's good. We're our own with this Joe you're next on ukraine sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet. Welcome thanks a lot I was Definitely planning on rudy against the bengals. obviously wants to game started a lot harder to root for them against them. Then i thought but I called the first time ever about where we should go. And i was worried about dunlap leaving And of course he's doing a great job with the seahawks and they're actually you know they were getting scored on left and right now sudden. They're not and even add the final sack two weeks ago I just really don't have any confidence in this. Coaching staff anymore I think that they don't really know what they're doing. And i think the first red flag was in a lot of defensive coordinators. Half on the job worked for zach. I'm starting to really be concerned about this coaching staff. I think that's fair in understand. Why i thank you for the call joe chicken and get a little bit of feedback there. I will say this about the defense. And i'm not. I'm not carrying water for liu and room. Oh but they. I think it's a fair expectation. If you allow nineteen points you should win an nfl game And i know that what they lost. Joe well okay. This coaching staff also decided to go with ryan finley and then practice squad quarterback so they don't get the they don't get the you know the benefit that that was their choice. They chose to do that in that. Defense loud twenty points the week before you. You should win a game in the nfl where he score where you allow twenty point to in back to back weeks. They've allowed nineteen and twenty and lost and both heck. They allowed what sixteen of the chargers in week one. So that's three losses year allowing fewer than twenty one points. Think about that all right. That was a solid first hour in the books. I feel. there's a little bit more meat on the bone where that topic came from will roll in the college football playoff rankings. The reveal and what it means for the bearcats. What happens if ohio state doesn't get to play in. The big ten championship game is undefeated and has a resume being compared against the bearcats resume. Maybe for the final spot at the table as the music stops. Oh one hour down to go. You create sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet seven hundred wwl w news traffic and weather news radio. Seven hundred w l delicate. Cincinnati familiar face is entering the race mma following takes place between seven p And eight pm. Let's keep it moving seven. Oh eight seven hundred wwl. W this is ukraine. Sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet. I can tell you at this very moment. Uc bearcats stay right where they were a week ago. They are in at number seven again. The top six to be revealed next here is the latest. Uc at seven where they were last week georgia at eight iowa state. Nine miami is ten northwestern after the loss to michigan state plunges from eight down to fourteen indiana remains at twelve. Byu undefeated at nine. Oh moves up a spot. One spot to thirteen wisconsin is up. Wisconsin stays at sixteen iowa. Moves up five. Spots from twenty four to nineteen an tulsa from the american athletic conference moves up one spot to twenty four so all left to be determined. We we know the six that are left in some particular. It'll be bama notre dame clemson ohio state texas a and m. in florida. Those are the six still off the board. They'll be slotted perhaps in the same exact spot. They were one week ago. Alabama is in fact in at number one again bama stays at one in the college. Football rankings If you wanna grab a line once these are done Loved to discuss at five one. Three seven four nine seven thousand one eight hundred the big one pound seven hundred on. At and t. Noted aim is to significant notre dame news. Today we'll get to that in a second. You gotta think then at this point clemson stays at three and ohio state. Oil does ohio state state for. We will monitor the situation. I have one. I up to the left on the tv monitor in the studio the notre dame news today and it clemson is at three so ohio state you would think is at four the notre dame news today. Their game against wake forest on saturday has already been canceled. Notre dame's regular season is done. Notre dame will now have two weeks to prepare for the or the acc championship game. Which in all likelihood would be clemson. Notre dame has already automatically qualified for the championship game. They have won all the tiebreakers Even after the wake forest game was called today. Ohio state is four. The remaining drama is texas am in florida to the remain. The same they flip one based on a less than stellar. Knock your socks off. Performance by texas and m of but they do stay at five so they stay the same at one through seven from a week ago am at five and florida at six. All right so the notre dame game was cancelled. They're in it to get two weeks to prepare for clemson the The fly in the moment right now and what is making ohio state fans a little bit uncomfortable ohio state. According to the big ten rules need six games to qualify for the big ten championship game appearance to get to the championship game right now. High state has four games. Played two remaining this weekend against michigan state than the final against michigan. Do they get both of those games in ohio state resumed football activities today with an eye on playing michigan state in east lansing this weekend. If one of the next two gets canceled. Ohio state can't play in the big ten championship game now. That doesn't necessarily mean they can't make the college football playoffs. The committee has no guidelines or barometers. Along those lines is just a conference thing conference. Said you gotta get five if you don't you don't you. Don't you gotta get six if you don't you don't qualify for the championship game. In that case would be. Well i was gonna say indiana. Who knows what happens. The indiana now without michael junior but it could be indiana on one side and northwestern on the other side for the big ten championship. Game would happen. Riddle me this batman in oh by the way another element to the big ten if ohio state weren't to qualify for the big ten championship game by playing their next to they still have a game championship weekend. The conference is added extra games for everybody in the conference. Who's not playing in the championship. Game it's a matchup against your the highest ranked team in the opposite side. So i think in this case it'd be ohio state. Wisconsin playing a sixth game championship weekend while the big ten championship game is going on ohio. State would have another game to get to six but they would be playing in the big ten championship game. So how does the committee view and this is. This is my riddle. Me this batman. How the committee view. Let's just say for argument's sake. Let's make it really juicy and good you ready. Just say you see wins out beats tulsa then beats again in the conference championship. Game you see is ten. No let's just say for argument's sake. They're battling for the final spot against ohio state team that six zero and didn't play in the big ten championship game. Can you imagine. Can you imagine the discussion. You see what have at this point you see has four wins over winning teams teams with a winning record. Ohio state has won. You see has beaten a seven. Two army a seven three. Smu a six to memphis a six and three central florida. And to get to undefeated at the end they would beat tulsa twice and tosses a winning team right now so you see could have six wins against teams with a winning record in ohio states resume would have. Let's just say they play wisconsin in the big ten championship. Weekend and get another one. Ohio state would have to wins over teams with a winning record. What would the committee do. Because you got so many dynamics you gotta power five team and a group of five team. You've got one that's played ten games in one of all you've got to know that that's one six games and one them all six versus ten ten verses six. You've got one that has what would be six wins over teams with a winning record but is a non power five group of five t against the power five has six wins and maybe only two of those at most would be against a winning team. Then what holy cow. I'd pay good money to have that happen then. That'd be like a topic for the entire week. We'll grab your calls as we continue pickup. Jt great ones talk bengals. Absolutely jeff wants talk. Bengals absolutely We've got dueling topics on the board. We were talking about the conflict of winning. And how on sunday with five zero five left in the game and the bengals the ball down by six and a chance to win the game. I tweeted innocently. I said are you routing. For a game winning touchdown to hear seventy percent said no leading me to calculated my head women now three years in a row winning his turn to rooting. His term to rooting for losses to the coaching staff has changed then last year rooting for losses to secure the number one. Pick and joe burrow and now this year has now turned to rooting for losses to secure the highest peak. You can get to take the offensive linemen in the country. How warped contorted is that your calls are next. You create sports presented by kelsey chevrolet. Seven hundred wwl w grasshopper. It is time for. today's teaching. All right willie laid on me. Seek not to know. The answers chevrolet. I'm mcallister will take this till nine going to add in some reds after the bottom of the hour. And we'll edit a topic we can have some fun with Related to ryan fitzpatrick coming up in the eight o'clock hour. If you miss portions of the show if you ever missing interview if you missed bengals line last night. 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I guess you saw what happened. The last few years central florida didn't know love whatsoever but central florida didn't get this high at this point. No but if you know look at their team they had a great team. They even showed it in a bowl game year after year. you know. Listen what luke says. He thinks the only reason they're up that high because the last two years of being eleven win teams so does put them up there. But i just don't see them giving a not ohio state or you. Well big ten or sec team there. I just don't see him coming down on top of this. Throw this out there. Wow state needs six games. Michigan's through last game. What would what would happen if michigan all of a sudden comes down with the cova preventing you for house state from getting their six game. How about how about jim. If jim harbaugh final act is screwing the ohio state buckeyes and obviously that is going to be his last day. So yes christ's sake his last act of screwing about guys is i'm not gonna play because we may start coming down with a cough next week. Thanks for the call. Appreciate checking in. I think this is a fascinating dynamic with the ohio state university again. They can make the college football playoff final four without playing another game. They can't make their own conference championship game unless they play their final. Two regular season games there at michigan state this weekend. Then they have michigan therefore no they need both of those games to be played to get the six no to qualify for the big ten championship game. If that doesn't happen they can still go to the playoff playoffs. But you're talking about a resume. I mean in theory. What what if if you miss one more than the most you could play is to more you can get the sick. In theory it could be six and ohio state team in versus you know teams that have played three four more games now. Notre dame is at eight no and their next game will be their conference championship game. They're done because the game was called off today against wake forest. We've run through all the scenarios of who needs to lose sitting at seven. I do think it's interesting. That iowa state has jumped up four spots from thirteen to nine. We know this scenario what has to happen in some way shape or form for uc to get from seven to four. They can't do it on their own. They need others to lose. They need texas and knocked out of the mix texas a m's not gonna play in their conference championship game. They've got a loss but they've got a win over florida. You need texas. Am to lose to auburn to get them out of the equation. You need florida to lose to alabama in the sec championship game to get them out of the equation. Then you're down to uc at ohio state and the resume side-by-side he is going to make the committee. I don't know how uncomfortable it's gonna make them but they're going to have some questions. They answer because if they go with the buckeyes the questions are going to be so you chose a power five team. That only played six games. That didn't play in its conference championship game. That beat one team with a winning record over a team that played ten games and had six wins against the team with a record. Oh the squirming squirm outwardly. But the sad reality is behind the scenes. It'll just be teaching chiching cha-ching it'll be ringing the cash register for that money to go into the power five and specifically in that case the big ten again. If you're just tuning in top seven from a week ago remain the same northwestern plummets from eight down to fourteen with their loss. I was state jumps four. I'm trying to think of anybody else moved more or dropped more than those two iowa moved up four to number nine and tulsa if you're a bear cats fan that's that's a positive 'cause tulsa moves from twenty five to twenty four team the bearcats will play hopefully two more times to end the regular season and then in the American athletic conference championship game. All right there you go. We've reached the midway point of the show. We come back. We're about twenty four hours plus away from a deadline in major league baseball. The rights are going to not just the reds major league. Baseball teams have to make a decision by eight tomorrow night. I think it's going to be really really interesting to see what the reds do with a number of players they can say. Yeah whoa whoa whoa go to arbitration with you or thanks for coming. Here's a handshake. And we wish you the best of luck. What if the reds walk away from archie bradley and curt casali. Brian goodwin by eight o'clock tomorrow night. We'll get into that next. You create sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet seven hundred wwl w news traffic and weather news radio. Seven hundred w l w cincinnati. Uc football stays in the hunt with the kelsey chevrolet. Five one three seven four nine seven thousand one eight hundred the big ten pounds seven hundred on. At and t. Got a couple lines open. We have bengals on the board. We've had college football to the mix. I'm adding reds in this segment then Just after eight o'clock topic around ryan fitzpatrick and Backups and bench warmers in substance. Scrubs walk on's explained in greater detail coming up just after eight o'clock tomorrow night by eight o'clock every major league baseball team has to have all decisions made a what to do with players eligible for arbitration. Let me give you the easiest explanation for what that means. There are some players who in the reds case archie. bradley kirk. sally. Brian goodwin. Michael lorenzen guys like that robert stevenson was arbitration eligible. You have a choice by tomorrow night. At eight o'clock team you can say yes. We agree to go to arbitration with that player. Meaning you you're going to come to a dollar amount you're either going to settle before the arbitrator decides or you're going to pick him out you think they're worth they're going to pick them out. They think they're worth. And then the arbitrator decides the thing about arbitration is. It's always guaranteed. Raise you you. You can't offer a a pay cut in arbitration so the reds have to decide what those players by tomorrow night at eight o'clock. Yes we're going to go to arbitration. We want to keep that player and pay what he's expected to earn. Or you can simply non tender. You can walk away from them and they become free agents now. What is kind of the fly in the orbit of all this. Nobody really knows what the reds budget's going to be. The reds budget last year was projected. Over one hundred sixty two games would have been in the neighborhood of one hundred and forty million or so it would have been the highest payroll the history of the franchise and then we know what happened and everything that went with that so who knows after a season of no fans in the stands and who knows how many fans if any will be in the stands in twenty twenty one who knows what the reds losses were who knows what any team lost in major league baseball and what their new payroll is going to be. I think it's a safe assumption. To thank the reds payroll was one hundred and forty million last year. It's not gonna be one hundred and forty this year. I would think it'd be a better bet to say it'll be closer to one hundred twenty. So what do you do with guys. You have a choice. An option on for example. I think the reds are going to walk away from curt casali. Tomorrow night. he's projected to make around two to two and a half million dollars. Can this team pay curt casali two and a half million dollars to be a one of three catchers on the roster actually would be one of four if you count kyle farmer but i think most agree it's tyler stephenson's time maybe not an everyday starter but certainly getting a lot of playing time along with tucker barnard so pirka sally's thirty two years old. He's a right handed bat. Same as tyler stephenson so it would not shock me. In fact i think it'd be more shocking if the reds decided to pay her sally rather than walk away from him and go without him. Now i guess you could make the argument and i. I'm a big fan of kirk sally. The pitchers are clearly a big fan. Who doesn't like curt casali. It's a tremendous clubhouse presence fantastic handler of pitchers He's been productive at the plate. We don't know if there's gonna be a not. I mean if that's part of the ridiculous of this offseason. These decisions are being made by teams. They don't even know if they're gonna have at the the the age you could say. Well you know what tyler stevenson. Who's not nearly the catcher that either one of barnhart orcas allier. Let's keep kurt. We'll pay him the two or two and a half million. Let's keep him. We can tyler stephenson ana cabling certainly against left handers. And we'll go with kirk and tucker and tyler. I think they're going to move on from kirk sally. I think they'll move on from brian. Goodwin goodwin is twenty nine years old. He's projected to make somewhere around close to three million. Maybe as much as three point six million anybody see a reason to pay goodwin that amount of money to be their fourth or fifth outfielder. You got winker you've got akiyama you've got cinzano you've got you've got a keno. That's five as is may. Maybe you can make the argument keno. He doesn't fit in the plans on. Take him out of the equation. Are you really going to pay. Brian goodwin maybe three and a half million dollars to be a fourth or fifth outfielder and occasional starter. Now you can say well wait a minute. They just traded for him they gave up. They gave up a young pitcher paki. Left-hander that move was done in. An attempt to quote air quotes. Here go for it and get into the playoffs last year and it worked. You wasn't all that productive. But they. they added a veteran in another centerfield option. And they got into the postseason anybody. Brian goodwin fitting on this team in twenty twenty. That kind of money again. We don't know what the payroll is going to be. I think the interesting one will be archie. bradley archie. bradley is projected to make around four and a half to over five and a half million dollars depending on what kind of payroll crunched. This team is looking at. I could see them walking away from archie. Bradley you've got gracieuse. You're on the hook for eight million. You're not going to be able to trade. Ri- sela glazes hector the indians. This offseason offered the american league's saves leader who had a two earned run average to anybody who wanted him as long as they took his ten million dollar contract this year and nobody. Nobody said boo. So i can't see anybody trading for rice lacey's not in this market not take on eight million. Michael lorenzen is in play here. I just can't see them. Not not keeping michael lorenzen projection as he's gonna make high three million maybe four and a half million but man he actually could be in your starting rotation if not in your starting rotation. He's a multiple innings eater in relief. Now four four and a half million might be on higher end based on your payroll in the market right now. But i think there's value there at at that price for michael lorenzen. I just can't see him being taken out of the equation so my final answer right now. And we'll see i'm on tomorrow night after you see meaning. I'll be on around seven thirty so we may know those decisions. Prior to eight o'clock we'll do ninety minutes of a show tomorrow night. We may know those decisions by tomorrow. Night i will. I will say right now. I think they say no to curt casali and he leaves. I think they say no to brian. Goodwin he leaves. I think they say yes. To michael lorenzen he stays. I'm going to. I'm going to say no. I think they walk away from archie bradley. I think they'll they'll take that money and try to redistribute it and try to find some cheaper relief pitching there are some wild names being kicked around his guys. That are not going to be tendered by teams. Tomorrow it will become free agents. I've seen kyle shorebridge name with the cubs. I've seen gary sanchez. The starting catcher for the yankees. I've seen josh bell. The starting first baseman of the pirates. What these teams are looking at in. What's domino's are gonna fall. These teams look insane. We we we need to cut payroll and we can't pay these players this kind of money so we're just going to let them walk now. Imagine what the landscape gonna look like flooded with a lot of non tender guys who suddenly become free agents. Who aren't going to get nearly what they think. they're worth but what are the reds good at reds. I don't want to call it dumpster diving but the reds have been good kind of sifting through discards. I don't wanna call him. Rejects the the scooter genetics and guys like that over the years who were discarded not wanted and yet the red swooped in and maybe got him at a at a team friendly deal chance to prove yourself for a year with the reds. They rolled the dice in at work. There's another layer to all of this and that's the shortstop. We'll spend some time on that as we continue as well. But let's grab some calls five one three seven four nine seven thousand eight hundred pounds seven hundred. At and t. hello jeff atlanta. Doing buddy good how are you. Hey you're covered a lot of subjects and You're as prepared and awesome. And then he worked saw coast ever as always has your relates to the bengals passionate. Always as you're welcome you know you often get accused of being too positive all the time and i thought that reputation half tonight You know the opportunity for us events and perhaps even ran gonna thank you for that so I think you know me. Pretty well in a season ticket holder since nineteen sixty eight and You know Monica mcginnis therapy session without admitting that i mean like a zombie i went down there with my son on sunday and We we went on what was a beautiful day. Honor the great joe burrow. I mean if i hadn't been You know putting up banners for for borough as i've done for a long time now the one put up was can't get rid of the comeback kid. This time his tweet. I would have been on hiatus. If you wanna team lance. i would have been on hiatus a long time ago and you know the experience. Sunday was one where we left halftime in omen. And watch that football game We were absolutely jim what you couldn't really do that. Pbs magazine but in our family room as we lost that game my kid and i just were jubilant because at this juncture you know why wouldn't you be now i i heard the perspective and i respect the perspective of of other real bagels fans. Like you know. We're gonna unconditionally root for the team. But let's say if ryan sits magic has not been our mvp last year and beating us thirty eight thirty five in overtime in december. We don't have joe burrow on the same. You're not living for the dolphins in that game. It'll ludicrous. And i said i said the partly tongue in cheek but zac deserve coach of the votes last year for benching andy for three games in play and ryan finley because to your point without that. They're not they don't have borough right now. Because i think the players will tell you they thought they would have won one or at least two of those had andy been quarterbacking absolutely in fact about an also. I mean if the ryan finley project which really came out charles goldsmith covered this week it came out that the finley was to tailor their next golf and if not played can you imagine the possibility probability the possibility that they don't draft for because they haven't given finley's i've tasted that was a rare example of a good luck. Yes talk second andy. Andy has a chance next week to win. The first big football game brought to these. Everyone called out saying thank last game. I remember one for us. It was meaningful with two thousand twelve in pittsburgh. I mean you know The the reality is you gotta look at this in in the big picture as they gotta get tool is critical. I mean you got to protect for the team has led him down and they have to make up for it and the only way to make up for it to get soon and then get that more fine tape. Hey jeff i'm late. I gotta run great hearing from you. Call me again right. You're bet thank you and thank you for the kind words heading down the stretch. We're role and two eight o'clock and then we'll introduce Next topic. I think we'd kick her out and have some fun with kind of jog. Your memory then gary jeff walker serves up the nightcap tonight from nine to midnight. It's all ahead. This is you create sportstalk presented by kilty chevrolet. Seven hundred wwl w a lot of people are using the word 'sad to describe this year. You may be one of them. It's hard to remember life before masks and shutdowns and working from home. Seven hundred wwl. W it's ukraight sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet glad to heavy along my Twitter feed has turned into a free for all a knockdown donnybrook between ohio state new c. fans and. I'm not sure not sure. How many realize what is being debated at this point. The the subject we we brought up around seven thirty five was if ohio state doesn't play in the conference championship game if they don't get the next two weeks in. Then they don't qualify. They don't play enough games to play in their own conference championship yet. They could still make the college football playoff field at six zero so the question was raised the debate the committee would have if in theory. And we're talking about other things happening. What if the committee had to decide between ten and a uc team and a six in ohio. State team. The power five team. That's only played six games in only beaten one team with a winning record versus the group of five team that played ten games. And if they're ten would have six wins over teams with a winning record. And we kinda debated the merits of each side. And yet there's twitter fighting going on about who would win if they played each other. They're not playing each other. The committee is going to in this theory. Choose perhaps one or the other and we're comparing the resumes and what it would save at the committee in who they choose and for what reasons. It is a big college basketball night tonight. It will impact sportstalk tomorrow night as well. I will follow the uc game. That is uc and lipscomb. Tomorrow night. i believe i honestly. The schedules are changing and games are being dropped. In a are being rearranged dayton played. Its opener tonight is playing its opener. Tonight it's third different opponent. They tried to play the open. I think it slips at uc inlets. Tomorrow i think so. I will follow that. It is a big. Dave confirms with the thumb up. I will follow at around seven thirty or so. Xavier also plays tomorrow night. They won last night. Ninety nine ninety six in a one against eastern kentucky eastern kentucky forced twenty five turnovers by xavier twenty five turnovers in eastern kentucky. Eighteen offensive rebounds eastern kentucky had thirty one more shots than xavier last night. Thirty one more field goal attempts ninety one shots the sixty shots but Xavier gets a done in the end. They won almost sixty in their first game and now they've won their last three by. I think a total of seven games. They are four. No and i looked at the ken. Palm rankings today. I think based on what can palm has. I think xavier's the only team with four wins in the country unless somebody's one one against somebody below division one that's not counting in the ken bomb rankings. But according to that site sabres team with four wins right. Now they're four. No travis steel. After the game last night it was a win but he was none too pleased he well. He was a little bit miffed of last night. They should have won. I don't think we should have won the game. We did not play well. I told our guys in the locker room. Afterwards there's days off in college basketball. I mean there's just you look all across the country man. You have to honor the game with your preparation and nobody cares. How many games you played in a row. I i don't care. There's no excuses in our program and i gotta get our guys ready to play now. I would say it's the worst Sloppiest game that we've had by far this season. One of the sloppiest games. I've ever been a part of as far as a coach To be honest you know we need scrubs on the floor and i you know. Paul played twenty one minutes tonight. He got a technical foul. They're stupid technical foul. He should have been called for absolutely undisciplined. Undisciplined got his third foul. Thank right there at the beginning of the second half. He's got to be on the floor force. We don't need them over on the bench next to me so again. I was sloppy game overall again. We're very very very fortunate to come away with the win travis. Firing last night fired on the team fired on individual guys last night a move to four no. They will play their fifth game of the season tomorrow night as you see opens their season coverage begins at four thirty tomorrow afternoon here on seven hundred. Wwl w tip is At five so let's see game. Post game yeah you and me around seven thirty. We'll take it till nine tomorrow night. I look forward to it. I don't know what to make of the with. A large group of people aren't quite sure what to make the bearcats until we lay eyes on them. Eight o'clock hour topic. I thought of when i was discussing ryan fitzpatrick with dave lapham. Last night on bengals line. It will deal with backups. And bench guys and subs and scrubs in walkathons. I will explain as we turn the corner into our number three. We'll do that after news. 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Dez ritter was named one of the Quarterbacks to the davey o'brien quarterback class at twenty twenty making him an official candidate to win the award. James wiggins the safety name to the mayo clinic college player comeback player of the year award Ohio state football resumed activities today. Hoping to play at michigan state. On saturday the college football playoff rankings are out tonight. The top seven remained the same from a week ago including ohio state at four. Uc at seven a college basketball tonight kentucky and kansas going at nine thirty in the champions classic at bankers life in indy. Catch that on. Espn fifteen thirty number of games inaction at the moment will update in a bit I you got drilled. This afternoon by texas was the last time i you scored forty four points in basketball in a basketball game football team did i mean heck. The football teams outscored the basketball team Lost by twenty two to number seventeen. Texas purdue rolled over oakland reds named eric jaeger's as their new assistant pitching coach. Caleb coffins role. Jaeger's was the organization's assistant minor league pitching coordinator deadline tomorrow night. Twenty four hours from now. The non tender deadline do the reds. Keep kirk and archie bradley and brian. Goodwin and michael lorenzen. Do they walk away from one of them. Two of them three of them all of them that to be determined and fc. Cincinnati youngun the twenty year old. The number one pick in the draft. Last year frankie amaya bummer of a twenty four hours yesterday called up to camp with the us senior men's national team. Today showing up at camp in florida tested positive for covid nineteen. Those plans have been scrapped. Unfortunately for him but at kids got a A bright future by all accounts. All right you were caught up on some of the headlines I was talking with Dave lapham last night on bengals lied about ryan fitzpatrick who very well could be quarterbacking against the bengals on sunday. A to thumb been bothering him. Brian flores hasn't decided we'll know more tomorrow when he speaks but it could be ryan fitzpatrick and dave lapham considers ryan fitzpatrick. Fizzy fits magic is one of his favorite players. He's known fizi for a while. Through his dave lapham son and we we got into the career the life and times of ryan fitzpatrick and he is in his sixteenth season. He was drafted by the saint. Louis rams the st louis rams back in two thousand and five. That's how long ago seventh round pick and now sixteen years in. He has carved out a really nice career but he has been for lack of better phrasing. He's been like a journeyman a backup an insurance policy for things that might go wrong. In some cases he's gone in teams number two and been elevated a number one because of injury or poor performance and he's had eight different stops along the way he's played for the rams the bengals the bills the titans the texans the jets. The buccaneers the dolphins where he currently resides in had an ice game on sunday. He's been here. There and everywhere has accumulated some impressive numbers for his career. But he's been your quintessential backup journeymen if we need like a security blanket if we need an insurance policy. Let's if we need somebody to be a mentor. Let's get ryan fitzpatrick. And so. I started thinking about cincinnati. And we've done this before and i remember. We had some fun with it last time so my hope is that translates this time. I was thinking of and ryan. Fitzpatrick was bengal back in two thousand seven and two thousand and eight. I started thinking of cincinnati athletes. Who for whatever reason became a favourite of yours in their role as the backup the bench guy the sub the scrub not to be mean the walk on the utility guy. Maybe an occasional starter but more often. The night he was bench guy was a backup. Who's a sub off the bench. It was the guy who filled in need a day off. He filled in starter in a slump. Give this guy start who just came to mind who in cincinnati sports. Would you consider one of your favorites when you think of. When he wasn't a star was an all-star heck most of the time you wouldn't even a starter. There was something about that guy. Just like that guy i like the scrappy. I like that backup. Maybe thought he should have been given more of an opportunity to win job. I think he could better starter. I fully anticipate hearing from the aj mccarron fan club. Because i think. Aj mccarron when this book is written someday. Aj mccarron will get a lot of run in a book about cincinnati backups bench guys and fan because there was a there was something like supernatural that went on with. Aj mccaren fans in this town. He was the alabama thing. Maybe was his good wife. Maybe was. Just andy dalton. He didn't think was good enough. But there're there was definitely something strong that went on when aj mccarron was here that elevated him to like legendary status in this town is the backup quarterback. I would think he would go down as one of the five fan. Favorites among backups and bench. Guys and subs and scrubs in the history of cincinnati. Sports who else can give you give you one. I'll go in fact. I'll go off the board orange to walk on conner bar one when he walked onto the you see basketball team. I looked it up today. Because i think of connor barwick and i think of the two thousand six wouldn't traditions classic in indianapolis it was mixed first game. It was against ohio state and that buckeye team was loaded. Greg oden ought to be the number one. Pick in the draft in the middle craig. Connelly the point guard mixed roster shorthanded karner bar. When football team connor bar wind up guarding greg oden in that game was at that game with my dad was brutal that would just crusher but connor head two points and three rebounds in that game and i'll never forget the image of connor kind with arm bar in the back of greg oden who was posting up down low one. The ball encounter bar one who football sized guy. but he wasn't greg oden size guy with the hombres behind kind of like hold him off and try to defend him in the post. Never forget that. John williamson led the bearcats scoring that day. If i remember correctly but i looked it today. It's hard to believe now thinking back. Connor barwick started eleven games the year. Before for andy's t ak anti-kennedy steam connor average sixteen minutes a game as a walk on for the bearcats in that transition year. With andy kennedy. But that's a walk on. There's backups at bench guys in substance. Scrubs that come to mind. I'll give you one. I saw an ira say i started thinking about this on saturday watching the kentucky football game. I think he was doing this game. Kentucky played florida. And i wanna say the analyst for that game correct me if i'm wrong was the former florida. Gators wide receiver. Chris doering d. o. e. h. r. i. n. g. Chris doering and i will never forget the site that i had. I don't think i was the only one in bengals training camp nineteen ninety eight. That would have been georgetown right. I was probably down there watching him. But chris doering was claimed on waivers and was in training camp. The colts waived him in the bengals claimed him. And i want to say. He was in camp that year in training camp. That you're ninety eighty never actually made it to the regular season with the bengals but i remember the glowing reports of chris. Doering some people at least momentarily fell in love with chris. Doering give that guy a shot. I'll give you another one from that standpoint. Remember remember the pit linebacker in ninety. Six for the bengals. Tom tumblety there. Have that for a blast from the past. I remember being a big fan of tom tumelty. May that guy deserves more playing time. I'll give you read chris hazy. How many times did we debate over the years over the time of chris. Hi z being here and if dusty. Just let just let him start. Let start for a month. Chris was a tremendous pinch hitter. Really a quintessential like fourth outfielder. He was versatile he had some pop he could pinch hit. He could run but he never became an everyday guy for maybe a variety of reasons. Maybe it was a simple as he just wasn't good enough to become the everyday guy but when i think of cincinnati guys that we we really fill for like demanded more playing time for among the backups and bench guys in substance scrubs. I think it. Chris who did you just think of well. Let me give you a phone number. Five one three seven four nine seven thousand one eight hundred the big one pound seven hundred on. At and t. I'm going to call this. The ryan fitzpatrick slash chris during topic tonight. See what we can do it. As we continue you create sports presented by kelsey chevrolet seven hundred wwl w very gentle walker where the conversations as strong as the dreams tonight at nine uncontrolled outbreak right. Now i'm atlanta's mcallister. Burly koren's presents the twitter feed if you if you're looking for maybe takeout pickup You can get a delivered gift card. Barley corns will take care of it through locations in northern kentucky. Thanks to barley corns presenting the twitter. Feed thank you for following. If you don't join us you can be a part of this conversation. I'm at lance mcalister columbus. We go kevin. Gimme a backup or a bench guy that you liked tweet and adam and all yes i mean. I found myself rooting for him and same with pleat and they they were. They seem to be fan favorites. They do good sometimes. But maybe we'll salad started for awhile. It's been a while back but he would hit a run. I think he still holds the record for the fastest home. Run trot in baseball history. He put his head down and he ran as fast as he could. Yeah he. He ran faster than than manager. Could walk right now. look at what happened. Was something like that. And the only time. I went to a reds game was the que- giveaway night lasts in two thousand nineteen bobblehead giveaway night and cui was just throwing in the pre game. I had my grandson there. And they were just he was throwing all the pop ups into the stands for the kids to try to catch and the kids are all young plague. Please come on. He seems very popular with all the fans had get rid of them. I'm glad you called. And i appreciate your listening to do it again. Some time often thank you have a great now. Let's keep in mind was a starter. Let's keep this contained to what we're dealing with the the guys who were the backups. The bench guys utility guys. The subs came off the bench for injuries. Or if somebody was cold or the pinch it or as injury replacement late in the game in blow out clear on the bench guy. The guys who never quite got the opportunity to be the every maybe on occasion they did. I'll give you another one. I'll give bengal boy. I'm flashing back on bengals. This is almost Who i want to say early. Two thousands for him remember bengals wide receiver. Danny farmer danny farmer was a wide receiver at of ucla. And i remember. I remember taking calls from people saying man wanted they. Give danny farmer more of a chance. Ooh how about this. One jason williams from politics extra and here on seven hundred wwl w. o. Appreciate this. i'm flashing back. Bengals quarterback backup at a florida and marshall. Oh we fell in love with eric krousar. Eric crash play eric kratzer. Why isn't he getting a shot. Cruiser goes on the list cell phone and jeff. Welcome to the sports talk. Thanks appreciate it. Sure you took my danny former man. How about that for a blast from the past right but what about turk sooner. oh right. yes quintessential backup and ride to the rain. And here's another read for you. What about louis. Oh yes member him. Yes absolutely versatile bench guy could do a little bit of everything for ya. Hey thanks for taking my call. Thank you thank you for calling me turk showed the classic like ride to the rescue. Backup coming off. The bench was the opener in In one thousand nine hundred. Eighty one kenny anderson. It has a bad day and gets benched by forrest. Gregg and turk shoulder comes in that was against seattle the opener and rallies down twenty one enough and he rallied in victory in that game. And that's the same season kidding. Win the mvp and the bengals went to the super bowl. That's like one of the most clutch backups or bench guy. Oh now wait a minute. I was gonna say of all time i'll give you. I'll give you perhaps the most clutch when a no no no. I just have another one okay. I'll give you one of the most clutch little billy bates billy bates nineteen ninety world series. Game to base it off of one of the grace relief pitchers of all time. Having one of the greatest single season seasons by a relief pitcher gets a base hit on a chopper to begin the inning. And then score. That has faired life. And billy billy bates scores the winning run the hit. He got his a read. It was the last hit of his major league career in prior to that he had raised a cheetah on the field at riverfront stadium. Billy bates goes on the list of favorite backups bench. Guys subs in scrubs how. 'bout let's all wait a minute. Let's go here. Dave welcomed sportstalk. Hey how you doing. i'm fantastic. What do you got for me. Album harris lordy harris classic pinch hitter probably went down on the all time. Best pinch hitters. I think he was a clubhouse leader. He never heard a bad word. In fact i accept it but he was asked to do absolutely right. Big personality kept everybody loose. Just what you want from bench guy. When when they needed a big hit they caught him and he delivered more often than not. Thanks a lot. Thank you thanks for the car. You're saying thank you. Yes it's my daughter's back for seven weeks from louisville. Casey's ben back and then go grab some food and then went back to his house off. Campus it you see but for the record after this. I'm going home. I am locked and loaded watching the bachelorette with peyton and my wife. Don't give me that look. Don't get luck and don't give me any of those calls. It's family time it's time with my daughter watching the bachelorette. There's a couple of guys on that show. I don't why she's keeping them around. Kelly classic line last week. All three of us are in the family room. Watching and kelly turns and i may have been expressing dismay or displaying exuberance for decision. Like he's back in the game. Or what and kelly leaned over and looked at peyton. She said what's your reaction to your father being engaged in the bachelorette was a rolling of the eyes at that point From from my daughter. Let's go let's go cell phoning for a catcher. I like this. Nick talked to me. What kind of land you are. Thanks for calling. yeah great show great topic. Thank you You stole my connor bar win. Worked for mixed staff back in those days but I'm going with. Corky miller mike coach read fantasy camps past years. Yes that's awesome. And god bless him. I just looked it up. Corky miller made an eleven year career in the big leagues in. He hit one ninety three think of that yet but he was such a good catcher and he was such a good like clubhouse guy. You need a guy like corky. Biller on your team. Yes sir and he's One heck of a red fans can't manager we'll see if he gets shot moving up the ranks in the big league. Hey thank you. That's good by the way lenny harrison eighteen years had two hundred twelve pinch hits more pinch hits than anybody in the history of baseball for lenny. Harris and corky miller eleven years reds braves twins white sox red sox and the other thing in eleven years. He played a grand of two hundred and sixteen games. do the butler math on that eleven years in the big leagues two hundred sixteen total games. He would get called up little cup of coffee. Maybe september call ups. Maybe a guy gets injured. He was an insurance policy. A veteran guy He he was he was grounded. He knew his role. He didn't demand and expect more fit in and he like filled in when you needed somebody like that. There's a reason he's still in the reds organization in that Translates now into his coaching. As well all right this is fun. Now we'll do a little bit more. This heck why not. Let's get a check on news. First more of your backups and bench. Guys your favorites. Over the years. It's ukraine sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet seven hundred wwl w news traffic and weather news radio. Seven hundred w l w cincinnati hospital admissions for the corona virus. Stunts eight thirty seven. Seven hundred wwl. W it's ukraine sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet guide abbey here gergiev walker will be here in this seat at nine o'clock tonight. He will take a midnight if you missed the early portions of the show. We got deepen the bengals conversation in the six o'clock hour did a little bit of college football and the reds in the seven o'clock are you can catch all of that in podcast form through the iheartradio app and at seven hundred wwl w dot com richter and phillips presents. The podcast if you go to richterphillips dot com slash lance. They've got a fifty percent off deal on your next purchase for murder philip. Jewish we love richter and phillips jewelers and think of how that would come in handy during the During the holidays as you are shopping with your christmas gift list all right. We'll do on this date in a second and we'll take some more calls here. We're working on the backups. The bench guys. The subs describes the walk ons. Guys who may not have been in the bright lights starters the big time guys but for whatever reason you like that guy you i. There's something about him giving more playing time. Or just i like the way he contributes in the role. He he is in. I'll give you. I'll give you ryan hewitt bengals ryan hewitt. I'll give you well. i'll go. i'll go a couple of bengals. this boy jeff blake as a third stringer. Jeff blake mania blossomed out of jeff. Blake being a third string quarterback at the time and because of injuries bruce kozlik turned to him and The rest is history. Boomer was a backup in ninety. Seven came off the bench that was in india against the colts. For i think the start of ed run and went four and one as a starting quarterback to finish out that season and then the monday night. Football opportunity came up. Mike brown county said you know that's too good an opportunity to turn down you. You should go do that and boomer walked away and did that. I'll give you the right. Jeff clevinger jeff kevin. You're kind of a Jack of all trades versatile multi position guy for a time was a starter on this team. Wound up getting to the astros. Who was the sutton kid. A drew sutton. I think it was Got tray for jeff. Kepler was kind of one of those on the grinder. Guys wasn't an everyday player. Much of his career would get Kind of Bits and parts of of playing time and seem to contribute. At times. I i was a big fan. In fact casey had a jeff clevinger jersey. All right let's grab this in an oil. Here's one let go to hide park dante. Welcome to sports talk. Not a long time. I got to bengals. Yeah one from the seventies from early eight. Yeah the man out of hat the quieter but he always managed. When you come in and make a big touchdown tough as nails like third down if you needed a third down catch made he would make the catch about. Uc's own games. Beddis enforce a short while you could have been like the original james brooks on big on punt returner and kick returns lewis knee they did. He was gone shortly afterwards. How about that. I'm putting him on the list as well dante. Great here from buddy here all right. This was fun. I to start this earlier tonight. About loveline we go. Jim how are ya. Hey jim this me yeah yeah. Hey what's going on welcome Thanks for having me to the one. That's already been corky for the reds obviously g-o-v from the bengals From the day he showed up and his minivan. He's been the pros pro's pro but i got one. That's unconventional I if you follow wrestling in ohio at all gary tribe drums. Sycamore is is. He had a very good high school career and walked on at alive state and got an option to be ohio states heavyweight last year. And if you don't know anything about it. Just google gas tank gary man. Here's the man From cincinnati. he's he's underside. He is a fighter and he has been great you know the last couple of years for by state. I love it. Good stuff jim. Thanks buddy all right very night. I put those on the list. Have i saw a name pop up. And then it dropped off. Jerry lynch jerry lynch the The former red we're talking fifty sixties reds. Was the quintessential pinch hitter. I just looked it up. Jury lynch in his career had four hundred. Thirty four pinch hit at bats. He hit eighteen home runs. How many guys have eighteen pinch. Hit home runs in their career. And he's a guy who never played more than one hundred twenty two in a season never had more than four hundred forty at bats in a season time. Three eight three eight. He had a stretch where You know one. Seventy eight at bats to ten three sixteen to ninety six one thirty one but became a An extraordinary pinch hitter. I think was a lifetime to sixty. Three hitter is a pinch hitter. That's dang good coming off the bench And i'll give you another talk about greatest performance by a backup or a bench guy Clutch performance certainly. How key who comes up every year when we talk about the most important reds home runs in history. How king was a backup catcher third string catcher for the reds spent two years with the reds in his major league career. He hit to fourteen but he at the dramatic home run in a game one of a doubleheader against the dodgers and seventy three they were in danger of going eleven and a half games back of the dodgers. He hits the home run. They win game one. They go away and win game. Two they wind up the division. They went like sixty and thirty. The rest of the way spark the turnaround one of those durant home runs in history and yet as a red. He hit one eighty three in his two seasons and sixty total at bats sixty total at bats but homerun hitters read. That changed the course of that c. Oh here's another this is. I am so happy. He called him going straight to milford. Eric this is a great name. Lay it on me glance. Eight jimmy mclaughlin. Yes yes no blank. Blank time the. Us l. but nothing but the mls go. Yeah here you know he was a hard nosed hustler who unfortunately blew out the knee and it took him some time to come back for it in the in a made the team and in his last game at nippert he got in a couple of minutes at the end which was really cool to see but i was a big fan. My wife loves jimmy mclaughlin. He was a kid. It was impossible not to root for fun to watch. Yup hey eric that's all i need. That's a good one to delight. He he's one of those guys when he entered the game Th the crowd just he was the type you chant for him you know get jimmy in and and it was just a really bad knee. Injury took him some time to come back from but forget the the announcement in front of the team by All the the coach at the time. going back Who was the coach who was fired. Yup stop no. I'm the other a nutjob who was the one who was fired for the derogatory. The earlier this Home what was his name came. Think of his name now but he made the announcement that jimmy had made the team. Initially and the celebration was kind. Of why can i think of his name google. Fc cincinnati coach heard for the slur. That's going to bug me. I'm looking right at him. A i'm not gonna come up with it. I failed how. 'bout ooh let me go to milford and ryan. Welcome sportstalk ron. I'm thinking of ron yawns. There we go. what's that you are. who do you got for me ride. Friel oh yes. I'm ever me and my my my friend. We imitate them get dirty. Yes well and how about this remember the night the reds did a t shirt giveaways ryan free t shirt giveaway in the t shirt was like dirt on the front abbas also beautiful so often but i. I can't believe god that's good. That's good. I'm putting him on the list ryan. Thanks buddy all right. We'll head down the stretch on this date and more squeeze in your calls. Its ukraine sportstalk presented by kelsey chevrolet. Seven hundred wwl. W there's a lot going on these days. You've probably got strong feelings about it all the time to talk about time for a little chat with eddie and rocky though yelling screaming or finger-pointing i don't forget tomorrow No let's see Reds hot stove tomorrow would be on fox. Sports thirteen sixty. I do believe at six o'clock because we have you see basketball with pre-game starting at four thirty tomorrow afternoon tip is just after five. I will follow after the post game around seven thirty or so. I'll be honest. i'm i'm kind of interest. I'm kind of excited. Because i've always wondered. What a uc post game call in show would be like for you. See football and you see basketball. I whatever i listened to the kentucky football or basketball post game show. It's like a. It's like a ninety minute. Post game call in show. It always fascinates me and i always thought may well what it sound like if there was a uc in xavier post game call in show for those games. Well i will be here after the game signs off. So maybe we'll i'll take some instant reaction to what you thought of the bearcats tomorrow afternoon. And i guarantee some conversation because the arbitration decisions will likely. Well we'll be made before. The show is over and i want to get into the reports of the reds interest in a shortstop either by free agency or by trade all of that will be crammed into what probably amounts to about a ninety minute show tomorrow night between nine. Thirty seven thirty and nine o'clock right. We have stumbled into this. We did this during the During the baseball season in it worked really well and then one night. I wanna say two weeks ago. I just mentioned something that happened on. This date in the reaction was was so strong and saying well. Why don't you do that outside of baseball season. I said all. I had to end the show or maybe the back part of the show each night with some notes that happened on this date so without further ado we. We found like fancy like old school on this date in Sports music hit hurry. This date eighteen fifty six eight twenty year old frank. Robinson wins the national league rookie of the year award at age twenty. He hit thirty eight homers scores. One hundred and twenty two runs at hits to ninety this date. Nineteen sixty four. The houston colts became the houston astros. N- eighteen sixty seven. I had to look up to believe it will chamberlain sets an nba record with twenty two missed free throws. He scored fifty two in the game. He scored thirty pulled down. Thirty seven rebounds in a game against the seattle supersonics this date nineteen sixty seven. He was eight thirty at the free throw line. He scored fifty two. He missed twenty two free throws that day he was a fifty one percent career free. Throw shooter having more points. He could've scored. He was even sixty sixty five percent for this eight. Nineteen eighty-four the fiftieth heisman. Trophy awarded. doug flutie boston college. Nineteen eighty-nine talk about how times have changed. Money's change mark langston signs deal with the angels on this date. Nine hundred nine for a record. Three point two million dollars a year. There are a kershaw. It's gonna thirty million this year. This date nineteen ninety-seven. I'll never forget where. I was when i heard this story break. Warriors guard latrell. Sprewell attacks his coach. Pj carlesimo choked him in practice. David stern the commissioner banda spree. Well for a whole year an arbitrator later reduced it. The sixty eight games. The length of the regular season and then reinstated him with the warriors. This day two thousand fifteen. The seventy sixers the philadelphia seventy sixers ended the longest losing streak in the history of major professional sports in the us by ending a twenty. Eight game losing streak. There you go on this date sports history. Oh a couple of reds birthdays by the way on this date. George foster born on this date. He is seventy two years old. George foster in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven hit. Fifty two homers drove in one hundred and forty-nine scored one hundred twenty four had one hundred ninety seven hits hits three twenty and added on bass at three eighty two. Oh by the way won. The mvp led the league in rbi's for three straight years in fact in in four consecutive years in that stretch george foster finished second in the mvp won the mvp then finished six then finished twelfth and two years later finished second again. I oh i just flashed to a brush. We may have. We'll we'll do this once. We get back into the friday now off the beaten path topics we've done brushes with sports greatness in a while. I once wrote a helicopter with george foster was me casey. The pilot in george foster. I wanna see. I'm remembering this correctly. I think we were throwing out the ceremonial first pitch. I want to say for the aj cohen baseball tournament. I believe and that would have been at summit. I think and they they picked us up. We flew for dr to the to london and we took a helicopter to the tournament. We landed in centerfield me. Casey and casey. I probably four or five years old me. Casey george foster got out. And we threw out ceremonial first pitches. I hope i'm remembering that story correctly. I know i was in a helicopter with george foster and also board on this date in reds history sanders born on this date. Nineteen sixty seventy s fifty. Three years old reggie sanders is one of the more exclusive clubs in major league baseball. You probably would be surprised to learn about. There have been eight players in the history of baseball. Who have at least three hundred homers at three hundred steals reggie. Sanders is one of them. Willie mays berry bonds. Bobby bonds. Andre dawson a. rod. Carlos beltran steve finley and reggie sanders. Probably reggie sanders steve. Fiddler the ones that most would struggle to keep up with. If asked to name the eight reggie had Three hundred five homers three hundred and four steals in his career and sadly he's remembered here is the guy who struck out nineteen times in the postseason in ninety five against the braves in the dodgers in like twenty nine at bats. At your. we ran it out here in columbus. Paul you get to fight a war. Gimme a backup or a bench guy. How about mark lewis. Ooh the pride of hamilton. There you go. And a guy that had some pop in his bat. Short-term read russell brand. Oh yeah oh man. He did have poppies bad. He was one of those guys. You always saw man if if he gave them. Five hundred fifty bazzi might hit. Forty home runs but it just never happened never happened henna great glove absolutely great third basement. That is that's a great way to end the show. Paul thank you not a problem. This was a blast. I don't know i. This is one of those topics. I often have to check myself and say you don't over think it is keep it simple. I thought of this last night. When i was talking with dave lapham about ryan fitzpatrick. And then i'm thinking about it. I thought of how many how many different teams he's been a backup bench guide. He's carved out a nice career. And then i started thinking about how chris doering was on the uk. Broadcast on saturday. And i remember him as a bengal thinking he might turn into something. I sent all right. Let's just do. Let's do the eight o'clock hour on backups. And bench guys in substance. Scrubs that we love for whatever reason in it I always say it's one thing for the idea to be here if if you don't pick it up and run with it doesn't matter much and you took it and ran with it so thank you. That was That was a blast tonight. let's see eleven minutes left michigan state leading duke as number eight michigan state leading number six fifty four forty one. Eleven minutes left in the half kentucky will follow against kansas. All right. i wish i had more time. I don't gary jeff walker will serve up the new server. Yeah that'd be a story. If he was serving up the news he'll serve up the nightcap after the news. Then let's gather after the game tomorrow. Maybe instant reaction. Maybe i'll take it. My goal would be to take a bank of callers and kind of make it. A you see post game basketball call in show for a segment. See what we can get your first look at the bearcats. Then we'll get into some reds and some other stuff have great night. It's been the ukraine sports talk presented by kelsey. Chevrolet seven hundred. Wliw traffic and weather news radio. Seven hundred w l w cincinnati if possible bri pro part of being looked right. Now you can get black. Friday deals all month. That her sins kia. If you're looking for a new car. Check out the great deals. At hirszon's kia zero percent financing available and lisa's starting at only ninety nine dollars check them out at hirszon's kia dot com.
#143: SO Productive using the COAT Productivity System with Sarah Ohanesian
"This podcast is part of the shared. Podcast network learn more at share dot. Fm this podcast is sure. I'm your host. Jeff gibbon commonly known as the world's most handsome strategist and professional speaker. I'm also a superhero. Make sure subscribes. You don't miss a single sharable episode and that's it. That's the trump short sweet. Let's get to the show unshareable. You're going to be hearing very familiar voice. And if you were watching which you can't really do. You would see a very familiar face if you listen to my other. Podcasts where i have a co hosts podcasts called heroic council The voice today will be very familiar to you. If you listen to my other. Podcast rogue you will notice that My guest today was my very first guest on rogue She's a very close friend of mine. She's someone who i would call my business best friend. She calls me her business. Best friend and We're we're constantly in contact. And i thought it'd be a blast to bring her on the show and talk about what it is that she does so today. I'd like to welcome sarah hanson. chew sharable. it has been a long time coming but you are here now. Welcome sarah thank you so much jeff and i have been a longtime listener of the podcast. So for me while we're good friends. I'm sort of fanning out because it's cool to be a part of this now different part of your world. Yeah it's awesome. I remember you on my early list of people that i promoted sharable to before it came out when i had the trailer and everything else like. Well obviously i have tell sarah about it so You and i have known each other since two thousand eleven when we were introduced through a mutual colleague. She could say who's working on your website and brought me a and we started working together while you were at Julian krinsky camps and programs at the time working in marketing elevating to the level of cmo later on. And we've just kept in touch this whole time. I think you and i are an interesting case. Study in like you can actually make friends with the people that you get to work with So i'm really appreciative of that. I'm really glad to have you on the show today. I wanna talk about a couple of different things with you. That i think our listeners will find interesting The first of which. I wanna talk a little bit about your entrepreneurial journey because you are A really interesting case for people who have who are potentially working a job right now and thinking about jumping ships do their own thing So i think that's a good place for us to play. And i definitely want to dig deep into productivity When you were on road we got two very lightly. Skim the service on pieces of it. Today i go a little bit deeper and then you know obviously wherever the conversation takes us. So let's start here. You came out of school. Villanova villanova and You get this job. I knew you had some internships and various things but like the big. The big leap is jake. Acp right talk a little bit. About what background was. What was the work that you were doing. What did you start doing and kind of towards the end. What would you say your role looked like. Just kinda of take us through kind of summary of that part of your career when i was a really interesting time to have a career in marketing because you know jeff marketing change so much so i started working in two thousand. Five and social media was the saying that was vague. People know what it was. How do we use this. And it was a little bit of the wild west and then by time. I transitioned to being an entrepreneur. It might my role in marketing. Just was so rapidly changing all the time so the cool part of my career was that it was constantly changing constantly evolving. You can never get bored if you work in this space and so that was really cool way for me to just grow and learn and evolve. And i'm so grateful because now the denman entrepeneurship. I'm responsible for doing all of these things really on my own it. The foundation that i'd built in marketing has just been a tremendous again foundation to build me up to you know to have the success of having today so Just a really tremendous experience. I started as as really a part time hourly intern. And i i think it was rare for someone of my generation to stay with one company for that long and i enjoyed it so much so because it it pushed me challenged me It forced me to grow. And i and i forced it to grow and it really became something wonderful and and to be the cmo of such a great organization was really just an honor and a wonderful career path for me so because you were working in an industry that and specifically in a company that had been around i think at the time you joined it was more than twenty years that the organization had been around and this prior to you know even companies largely using websites right like it started back in the day where it is just direct mail. It was like very old school. So you've got this organization that has deep roots in traditional marketing and it starts to become an organization that has to kind of adapt with the times. You come in. And you're accountable in the marketing role for doing a lot of different things you had brochures to create you had websites to maintain had social media to think about then came content. And then later on you became hub spot and like all of these different things that you had to take on Can you talk a little bit about how you were How did you adapt to that because coming out of school. Where you coming out thinking that you're going to be a marketer. Did you think that the there was a certain set of skills that you were going to have to leverage here because you really got dropped into like. Hey here's the wealth of marketing. I think a lot of marketers. These days have the benefit to a certain extent of really specializing. Were you got dropped into a role where you had to learn a little bit of everything even stuff. Now that we look more like. Oh that's quaint. A brochure these things and you had to kind of adapt to them. How did how did you do that. How you think that you were prepared for that coming out of school and you learn from it okay. So to be fair to villanova. I love my education. I think villanova was an amazing place. But you know. And i think when when you when you were in that time we're talking about two thousand five. Everything was transitioning from of the old way of doing things into this new digital way so we were in school learning how to i have a concentration in public relations. We were learning how to make sure that the ap style was in all of the press releases that we were writing because we're going to fax them to newspapers. Okay so that's what. I learned in school and again. I love villanova. I learned so much inside and out of the classroom. But when i think about setting me up for marketing it was really a challenge so when i got into the real world and the school of hard knocks and was able to really learn it was amazing to see. You know six months after graduation. Some of that stuff we learned was already starting to feel a bit antiquated and so we needed to make sure with the limited time and budget and staff that we had that we weren't wasting time on these older antiquated processes. But we were really moving forward. And so i think there's a time to show respect for what's worked in the past and honor what is still working but then always have one foot in this new world of we gotta be on on top of things and you know well but we worked in the summer camp industry so our core market was teenagers so we had to be cool and and on top of these platforms but at the same time making sure that we were staying true to our brand and who we had been as a as a legacy brand so it was a really interesting actually fascinating time to be end to be in marketing. And then when i met you you know. Social media was justice. This wild thing that nobody knew what was coming with that so to two points about this curious about which is one how in your role being accountable for pushing the organization ford also maintaining the things that have always worked. How did you determine where to spend your time and how to allocate your time around like. Should we be on snapchat. Now should we. So how did you go about assessing opportunities to determine what you should be doing in that role. Yes i was a big proponent of trying and testing but always having most of our eggs in the basket that we knew works right. So we you know instagram's a great example. Instagram came along. And it seemed like people are people are gravitating Facebook is still kind of a core where our audience is hanging out so we were always nimble enough that we could move forward without neglecting. What had what had worked for us so it was always about just balancing time and money and resources into these are the things that we know are working. We have a marketing plan for the year but ten twenty percent of our time efforts in energy are gonna go towards these new things. Because if we're not moving you know we're gonna die on the vine so it was really just about that and making sure that we weren't just chasing new things for the sake of chasing them but really understanding okay. Our demographic our audience is already there. Let's make sure that we have a presence there. So we're keeping up with them when i think of you as a cmo and our interactions over the years I'm struck by how well rounded. You always seem to me. And i wanted to ask you about the the kind of the skill set of the future of marketers. Because i i think there's a perception out there when you say marketing that people just immediately think you're like the creative type right like there's this kind of instinctual response that like the marketers of the kids. That didn't hang out in the finance classes but as i watched As i watched you work as a cmo i was consistently struck by how many additional things were really on your plate so I want you to kind of rank. These if you could in terms of and i would not be surprised of course if you came back and said they're all equally important but curious your perspective on so ranking these different thing because i saw these as being components of your work so there's creativity as being one piece organization the ability to take and you know get projects across the finish line the of marketing or the analytics and the testing and the tracking those sorts of things team management as being The the fourth piece of it. And let's just stick with those four. But look i was going. Give list with those four. So you've got those pieces. That are kind of responsibilities of cmo. You've got to be creative and constantly thinking about the next thing you've got to be thinking about how you keep all of the team's organizing get projects across the finish line. You've got to think about not just the creativity side you know the art of marketing but also the science of marketing. And then you've got people to deal with. How would you rank the importance of each of those different categories if you had to rank them one to four so i would say that. They shifted as my career shifted so at the beginning it was really about seventy because that was really the the area that i could play and i was an intern in the nose. The marketing manager director. And so i really kinda had that space to play him. I learned very quickly that as the leader of the marketing team i had to have the organization and the time management in the team management. You know locked and loaded because that was my job. That only i could do. We can hire a graphic designer. We can hire someone to make ads for us. We brought on a team member who could physically make the ads inside of social media. But when i was really good at was organizing and managing the team and over time. I really realize the importance of of that because if the team has know what direction they're headed or what their priorities are. They're kind of loss. They don't know why we're doing something winded. Do so i really over time saw my value increase in the amount of time that it took me to properly manage. The team increased dramatically. I talked about this a lot with people. Because i think managers don't realize how much time it takes to be a good manager so they think I have to be creative in checking the science of of this marketing underestimating dramatically. How much time it takes to lead a team and to be a really good leader. So i would say dance requested at the beginning on my career career. The creativity was important than as analytics became more advanced. The science became really important. As i ended my career in in marketing i would say the organization. The team stuff really took over for me personally in the role that i was in that make sense. And by the way the fifth element. I was going to add in a vendor management. Because i think that song really excelled and we can do an entire about that part of managing the team really because to me. The vendors were such a critical component of our team and we should state. I had a small at a small team with a small budget. And we were a seasonal business so it wasn't as if we had this luxury to say. Oh we miss the deadline. Let's do it again. In six months like no every single year we had new summer programs running. So we had to be organized. We had to be honest schedule or like the season. We missed the business of so that was really a kind of a driving force behind everything. That kept us really organized. It's interesting that you put vendor management and with team management And i think probably is a clue to why you're so good at it is because that really was one of the distinguishing features watching you work with other vendors was How much you invited them into the process and how much you tried to treat them like they were part of your team so it's interesting you phrase it that way. I also think that it's really a good takeaway there that as you move into more of a leadership role the The pressure for you to be art and science of marketing or even like in any role you're doing when once you're stepping more out of the doing and more into like the leading team the less you're hard skills matter in the more you're soft skills matter And i'm not classifying productivity and organizations the soft skills. So much as the t. magin aspect. But i think that that's a really good takeaway for people when they think about their career in marketing potentially thinking about how they can't just neglect those skills until they get to the role of leader. But that's something. I need to be working on the whole time. And that if you're not excelling in the art and science of marketing may be difficult for you to get to that role where you're actually gonna be able to oversee people. So it's it's a re- it's kind of a call to action to be holistic and you're thinking about your and the other thing i think is important just as a heads up to people is if you really love the creative side of it you love designing you love copywriting. You love building websites. You might not want to be the leader. And i think that's something that people just sort of say well. My career path is this. And i'm ultimately going to be the leader but being in a leadership role isn't for everyone and if you really like i talk a lot about the zone of genius like what's yours owner genius. What lights you on fire. What fuels you. If it's doing the physical creative work than being the leader probably isn't gonna satisfy you because you might. I never designed an ad or road a facebook ad for the last. You know two three four years. I proof read them. I looked at them. I gave two cents. I didn't create them. I didn't write them. And i think that's just something for people to be mindful of like if you don't want to be the leader that's okay. Yeah and i think another aspect of that and this is just a prelude to my my forthcoming book. That's gonna be coming out after the lovable leader. I've already begun planning it but this concept of role base leaders. Where if you're really good at graphic design maybe the area of leadership you have is being really kick ass graphic designer and when it comes time for those discussions you step up and show leadership but that doesn't mean you need a title change or needs to have people under you or anything like that. It just means that in that unique narrowly defined thing that you're like that's where i want to show leadership is in my particular skill set so i think the even the definition of leadership probably could expand a little bit to incorporate other people and give them the space to just be good at the thing that they're good at and show leadership in that in that way. I think we're this naturally leads us to pivot point for us to talk about productivity because so much of your work at jk c. And coming out of that led. You went when you decided on a career shift after jake. Acp i remember you us talking about a lot of different things and you you were coming up with this idea of so productive and you gravitate towards this idea of productivity and it's interesting because at the time you brought it up i was like but sarah your marketer like you've been a cmo for all the time you've been in marketing with productivity and then when you start to explain it to me. I made a lot more censo- help connect the dots for people that maybe weren't maybe a slow like me and didn't pick up on that connection of going. Cmo to productivity coach. How did that occur to you that that was the logical next step for you. Yeah so really. Two to three years before i made the transition. I had this thing just knowing at me and it was a positive. Naw but it was there and there was always this. I love productivity if there is a podcast about it. I'm listening to it. If there's a book i'm reading it. It just like gives me energy. I can't describe and so. I loved consuming the content. I love putting things into practice. I loved testing new productivity systems for myself for my teams and so it just was something that i really really naturally gravitated towards so there were some respect. I couldn't ignore this anymore. I had to do something with it. Because i just had a force driving me towards it on the other side of it. I practically ahead to be productive choice. We had twenty five summer camps. We had kids from one hundred and forty countries. We were on. I think we we had the highest like eight different college campuses. That they were on. This was a big operation. We had five hundred seasonal staff. It had to be higher. You're trained manage. I mean this wasn't like people think summer camping. Think of the small thing in all that must have been a fun part time job you did in the summer. No this is a big business. It was quite an operation and it was seasonal again so we had to have processes we had to have systems. We had to get so much done with with small budget in a small team. So i really didn't have a choice. And i developed these these systems that really worked. And that's when. I said. I can teach this to other people. I've been a burned out. Stressed out maxed out busy professionals. And i really think i can help. Other people feel more at peace in the evening or relaxed in the evening because they had a process in the system to get all their things during the day so it was you know calling a forest from the universe. Call it what you want. I just like i couldn't get away from productivity was found me so before we get into. I wanna talk a little bit about your productivity system that you've developed Before we get there though. I think this is a really interesting thing. Just to touch on really quickly is that you went from college to a job. You grew in that job for a long time and then you decided to become an entrepreneur. And i say decided because some people i think are forced into the position. And they're like. Oh i guess i'll just start a business for myself because there's no other opportunities but like no you had opportunities up there. Were people that were like. I will hire you this not of money. Yeah and and you're like yes. That seems like a lot of money. And say i'm going to jump into the defendant. Start my own business which is a terrifying thing to most people and looking at your your entire setup. Most people would probably assume that you would not do something like that that you would not opt for the the the the less safe route and the fact that you're married you an entrepreneur even more so you're thinking let's all put our eggs in this unsafe. Can you explain a little bit. How you even came to decide to do this. Crazy thing that we do have like starting your own business and putting it all on yourself and on your shoulders. Yeah so to the credit to the organization. I was at de ngelo krinsky. The person Adrian casali steve robertson This is a company that had really amazing leaders. Who taught me how to be an entrepreneur. Like i was learning in it on the front lines. And so there's a book behind me. My color-coded mike color-coded books back. They are called rocket fuel. And it's a book about The visionary end the The is the now forgetting it. But it's basically the person who does all of the the work and so as an entrepreneur and you were actually jeff one of the first people who ever called me that and what happened was the the real entrepreneurs of our company were visionaries and they cast vision left right and center and would come back to the office and say all right sarah like can you make this habit by two weeks remote. I'd be like so. I was always kind of forced into that role of all right. I'll figure it out like gimme deadline. Gimme a to do list in. i'll get it done. I'll figure it out. And we were launching new camps. That were i mean we had medicine. We had a moneyball program with wharton things that i necessarily don't know about but i took it as an opportunity to learn expand my horizon and grow so i always saw these challenges growth opportunity. And that's really how i learned. I taught myself how to build a website because we needed it and we felt like we were getting pricing too high. So i taught myself that i taught myself how to had do ads. I taught myself hub spot and then got certified so i think i was blessed to have the opportunity to be in an entrepreneurial minded company with with entrepreneurs at the helm and that really taught me how to be an entrepreneur that i was in that intro preneurs space for many many many years and it. You know it's a big responsibility. And i had responsibility in my past career so i wasn't afraid of that. So that gave you some confidence but you're still standing on the edge of the us and you know that if you just turn around. There's plenty of safe ways to get to the bottom of that cliff nice comfy cozy luxury sedan. Take you all the way down to the bottom. I'll jump and i'll figure out how to build a parachute on the way down. Part of it was that you felt confident from being surrounded with the entrepreneurs but that can't be all that it was there had to be something else there and the reason i ask is that i'm trying to understand because you and i are different in this sense. I've never been able to do the thing that you did at. Jcp which is to have and hold down a job for any longer than like a year and a half. I'm just not. I'm not built that way. I can't do it. And i've always really until almost entirely until i met you. I've believed that we're just two different types of people entirely the entrepreneurs on the nine to fivers we just. We have different brains. We look at things differently. We just are different. But you bridge the gap you were like. I can play in both worlds. And most of the people that i know that played in the world that you previously were in are absolutely abject terrified of the entrepreneur life and i know that for me. The idea of having a job is short. It's just complete. Confining i feel like i can't breathe. You're able to play them both. How did you were. There was a moment where you had to make a decision that you're yet you're going to do this. And that is far larger than i. Think what we've talked about so far has given it credit for. How did you have the confidence in yourself that you could go and do this thing for the the. Why were you willing to roll the dice. Yeah no it's a good question. And i also remember the term from the book which is an integrator and the integrator helps the entrepreneurs get the things done. So i think that's that's also really part of it so for me. A lot of this was about permission. And i felt like i've been having this calling for a little while i feel like i can. I can do this. I was listening to a ton of podcasts. In reading books and at some point i just thought if if those people can do it you know why. Why can't i but when you talk about a moment it was really about permission and it was about what do i want and what do i want my legacy to be. And what do i want to share with. People and jeff united talked about this but like i really want people to believe that they can get enough done that they feel like they have a sense of calm so that they can really enjoy their lives and i wanna give people permission to have freedom and choice in how they spend their time so kind of all these things that are much deeper than productivity in getting things done was this driving force for me and i just felt like if i'm capable and have something that i need to share with the world than this is my chance to do it. And truthfully what's the worst that can happen right. Because i i can figure it out if this doesn't if this doesn't work or or another thing i wanna do doesn't work or a certain program i developed doesn't work. I'll adjust and adapt. Because i always have done that but i really would have regretted not trying and now as it here a year later. I'm so. I'm so grateful that i went for it but i think it was really about like giving myself permission. And that's you know that's a loaded word but that was really the word that kept coming back. I love it. So what do you do nowadays. Then so i know what you do but for those listening to help set up when we move into the next phase. We're gonna talk about productivity. What do you do now. What are the sort of things that you generally offer to people you. How do you spend your day. What is running your own activity. Coaching business look like yeah. So you know. People are stressed and facing. Burn out at work all the time. So what i try to do is teach people how to clarify their thoughts organized their work and take action so that they can have enough time at the end of the to really relax and recharge shakeout right so it looks like i'm a. I'm a one on one coach. So i help busy professionals one on one who wanted to private coaching sessions with me to talk about their challenges their productivity their time management the things that are keeping them awake at night. What's keeping them away from their families and we work through Really implementing systems and best practices for them and then on the other side of things. I'm doing a lot of training. And speaking engagements right. Now because businesses have obviously. We've all transitioned to working from home and pretty soon. We're about to transition back. And that's been a really strange time for teams for leaders for employees. Everyone's had to shuffle around in the end. Adjust sundry a lotta speaking in training right now. Clear communication time management setting boundaries setting priorities and training teams on that front. So that's been a lot of fun. If productivity were pie chart what percentage of it what size of the pie would be the systems and processes the hard skills of productivity versus the things that are more mindset related or potentially like soft skills. Asian things like that. How would you break those down. Do you think it's a fifty fifty thing. Do you think that it's like an eighty twenty thing like how. How would you look at it. Yeah i would probably say it's seventy thirty seventy in the in the mindset part because it's so interesting i talk about visit example from bernie brown when we tech someone and we see those three little dots we fill in the blank. What's about to come back at us. Jeff are you mad at me. Da da da da da da. And then i'm waiting for your response. And in the meantime thing goes he is so mad at me. He's he's upset about this. Or i didn't get back to his email fast enough in a fill in all of these blanks about what's going on and i'm wasting a lot of time in mental energy thinking about that so i i really believe that a lot of it is. Is this mental. Pardon how were interpreting things were valuing ourselves and our time in how we interact with other people is a really big part of this and yeah thirty percent of the processes and procedures which is almost the easier the easier. It's certainly easier to implement But i think that's where the coaching help because we can get through some of that mindset stuff together so interesting to me that you framed it that way because i was not expecting that as like when i asked that question and your little three little dots were going and you were about to answer that question my head. I was like she's totally going to say. When you said seventy third avatar yeah totally seventy percent systems. And i think part of that is that for me. The the approach to productivity. I feel like my mindset is geared towards it like i have priorities. I want to accomplish things. What i'm after. So just give me the systems do it knowledge here too. It's like mindset. Like i'm locked in and loaded so when you said the other way around. I found that very interesting all right. So let's let's go through your system a little bit. Let's talk about that. So you have a system that you created. Talk us through that a little bit and you alluded to it a little bit and talking about what it is that you do. Yeah so. The first is clarified. And that's the the sea so that it's ceo. At coat and the first is clarify which is where people should be asking the question. What and why and jeff. You've been through a lot of discovery meetings with people proposals working with different clients. This actually a step. That i find gets missed a lot right. What are we doing. What is it exactly. And this is where. You're getting clarity very specifically we're going to deliver these three points. We are gonna do this initiative. This is the expectation for this particular project. And you really can't get too granular here. The more clarity. You can get on what you're doing the better so that's really the first step. The other part of clarify is why. Why are we doing it. And there's a stat. That forty percent of employees have no idea how their work contributes to the to the greater goal of the company. That's a lot and so when we don't know why the work we're doing matters or or what the purpose of it really is. It's really demotivating right. You're like will. My boss isn't even gonna notice. I did. I did this or you know. This isn't contributing to the bottom line. This feels like on paper pushing. And i'm doing busy work and so i as leaders. It's really important zoo. Your team jeff. This project is so important because it's going to help the client is. It's moving business forward. So leaders should be able to explain why but then the team member. It's a great opportunity to ask you know in a kind way. Why are we doing this and really get clarity around. What and why so. That's the that's the c got it. It's interesting as your. And i've heard you talk about coat before and this is the first time i'm piecing together that there's actually a really direct line of sight between productivity and brand. If you don't know what the company is about and what you're trying to accomplish in the world the productivity side of things the tasks that are being assigned the projects that are being created. Don't have any actual real context to it. And and for that stat you gave about people not understanding how their work ties back to the vision if you don't have the bigger vision if you don't have the bigger brand purpose then that's just naturally going to be missing and all of the work. I've never actually made that connection in hearing you talk about it before but It's funny how so much of the businesses all aligned. Yeah and it's about aligning your team and honestly a lot of why is aligning your own purpose. You know i'm working with a client right now. Who's thinking about her career in is time to make a transition so one of the things that we're working on his what do you want. Why are you doing what you're doing and you know it's really thinking about purpose and what's important to you and what's really important to you because it's so easy to say. Oh yep i gotta get all these tests done today. Why why do you get up and go work with a trainer at the gym. Why do you have to make an organic very healthy carb free meal. I don't know so it's like thinking about what's important to you. And maybe that you'd like to me exercises important to me. I'm gonna have that a part of my day But it's not the same for everybody so thinking about why these things really matter to wire these things on the to do list. Why are these things you know eating up such a large portion of your day so we did a whole podcasts. About why but already being the first step it's very similar to the first step in strategy is getting cleaned like where we're going. What exactly redoing where we going. Why are we getting there the whole thing. So now we've clarified things as the first step in our productivity jobs. What do we do next. So then we organize so this is when we say okay. We know what we're doing. We know we're going to do it now when you to organize when we're going to do it where we're gonna do it and who is going to do it so probably the easiest step is who is this something that i'm gonna take on. Is this something on delegating to a team member. Who is responsible because so often you. We've all got an email where there's five people on the email and then we think. Oh yeah like. Suzy will respond or donald respond. And then nobody responds right. So it's really critical when you're organizing your work to say okay. Sarah york doing this jeff your doing that so again. Simple step but that gets missed quite a bit The other thing is win. This is basically a due date again. Another thing that gets missed a lot. And i always say if you want it done. It needs a due date now. Due dates can change because people get really freaked out about two days but it is this kind of guiding light to say that sets friday. We've got Prioritize that we've got to get that done and then the final step of organized is wear and this was a little bit interesting because so often we can do work in various locations. So i have a you know. My office is set up. i've got two screens. According podcast a have to be here. This is where my setup is for recording a podcast. There's other things. That i can do that. I can do from the sofa. There's little small tasks that i can do. While i'm in the drive thru line at starbucks there are things take five minutes so it's really about assigning basically like a little tag to certain task to say. Where am i gonna get this task done. Does that make sense. One hundred percent context additional context. Got it okay. So we've clarified. And then we've gone about organizing. Is there anything else on organizing that you want to touch on before we move to the next step in the process yet no. That's it for organized so win where who then. It's time to action right. You're going to get these tests done. So you have to think about how you're gonna do that and then just really outlined the task and so this is where you'll take your setting three priorities for tomorrow putting those things on your calendar. This is how you're going to get it done and again. This isn't rocket science but one of the things. I hear a lot from people as you know. I have a goal. Or i wanna rateable coin day and i say how much time are you taking every week to do that. I haven't worked on that in three years. But i wanted to. And so this concept of action is really about how you're going to get it done breaking down the simple task to get it done. You know if you want to write a book break it down into. I'm going to write a hundred words a day. Great and then put that on your calendar so Shore surely have the time to take action so that sets up. Quick i to point out that you you place prioritization inside of action which is interesting because under organize you have due dates and i think so often people they confuse when something do versus ones some a priority as you may have to mail a letter tomorrow and you may also have to get a proposal in the mail. That's worth one hundred thousand dollars or via email. So they'll say they may be due on the same time but one is a higher priority than the other. And i think it's important at that action stage to really to elevate that that concept of being more thoughtful about your priorities versus just about. What's do so. I appreciate that you move that into the action stage rather than having it during the organization stage Although i'm sure there's some prioritization that you would do there but i like that prior to taking action really asking yourself. Is this something that helps to feed the priorities that i currently have the elevated that all right so what's the final step in process so this is the fun one. This is thi. This is take time and this is really about taking time taking a break celebrating your accomplishments so i survey the line of busy professionals and i said you know how do you what do you do when you finish a big project. How'd you celebrate that. Oh nothing i am. I supposed to be doing that. I got just like the funniest answers from people and we are so guilty of finished the task onto the next thing. I finished the task onto the next thing. Yup because we're typically you know high achievers we wanna get so much done but our bodies physically need to reset. We need to recharge if we're gonna be our best selves tomorrow. We need a rest tonight and get a good night's sleep and not be up stressed all night long so this is really about hitting the reset button but also giving yourself a pat on the back and that could be you know. I- i wrapped up recording. This podcast with you. I think it's great. I'm gonna go grab a cup of tea afterwards. Before i dive into the next project so it can be something small. It can be something. We launched a new website and that was huge to take a couple days off. Or i'm going to book a vacation so i think it's really just about taking a few moments of big or small to just honor yourself like you're getting you're probably getting more done than you even imagined and so it's just important to honor yourself and then it's also a great time to honor team members. Say thank you thank. You goes such a long way. It's just a thing that we we right in our email Thanks thank thank you. I got it. But i think it's appropriate to take time to really say. Hey jeff like what you did. Today was great and i really appreciate you doing that. That helps our team a lot. So it's time for yourself and also time to just honor those who helped you get there. Is there one of those that you think. One by large people struggle with the most and then being introspective and vulnerable for us. Is there one that you struggle with the most. Yeah hope guilt. People feel really guilty about taking time. They feel like well. It's my job to do that. Just gonna move onto the next thing. Or i need to work to a certain time on the clock to to get things done some people feel really guilty about taking little breaks or taking a moment for their for themselves Yeah i'm guilty of it. Also for sure i'm guilty of being guilty because it is. We want to accomplish more and as a driven entrepreneur. i always on. I could get a few more things done. It could talk to a few more people. I could be a few more podcasts. Whatever it is and so it's definitely about creating some balance in some boundaries. For yourself to say i did enough today. This feels good. I'm gonna take the night off. That's awesome so for people who are to implement something like this. What sort of your big hope for people walking away from this episode or people that. Choose to work with you. What's your big hope for them and then kind of domino effect. What's your hope of what that that leads to out out in the world and the climate and the culture. Yeah well this culture of working this rat race were always on. We have our devices at our fingertips and we need to respond. Twenty four seven whenever someone messages us we have to respond. You know it's it's it's not helping anybody and burn out is now officially recognized by the world health organization as official condition. So this is real. This is not something to mess around with. So if you're feeling stressed burned out overwhelmed like take this podcast episode as your as permission as this is a time to hit the reset button. Because you don't have to live that way you can be successful between the hours of nine to five. You can get so much work done. If you are focused on the right things that are really important to you. And move the needle for yourself. I just wanted to empower people to say you know this. You don't have to live this way. You don't have to be stressed out and max out forever. There is another way. And i can help you get there awesome. That's fantastic well sarah. You've been a phenomenal guest. I had no doubt that would be for people that are interested in learning more about you. Learning more how they can work with you where they can pick up any of your free material and insights and ideas In your show in the show to completely promote yourself on national league shameless self-promotion time go for it. A working with the coaches a real personal experience. So i think it's great for you. Get to know me. Connect with me. Follow me on instagram So dot productive. I also have a free guide for everybody listening today because setting priorities is really important right. Now it's something that we're all face with. So i have ten questions to ask when you're setting priorities in. These are really critical questions. You can just shoot through Nope not a priority or a move that to a different day so you can find it. So dash productive dot com slash priorities awesome. And then one thing. I'll add in there. That's promotion on both of our behalves. Is that both you. And i are asana. Certified pros and recently have been working on some Joint projects together and putting together a joint offering. So if you're out there and your organization uses asana and is having some trouble figuring out how to maximize the potential of it Sarah and i both work together to Create an offering. That can help supercharge on at your organization and we come at it from slightly different angles. So you're getting a really A three sixty degree view of how to be more productive and more priority driven networks up if you're interested in that We'll put some links in the show notes and you can connect with either of us or you can connect with either of us individually. Those are always in the show notes as well. Sarah even phenomenal guest The content was really valuable. I think Your methodology is really useful. It's something that people do themselves and there's probably some other people about and if they tell other people about i guess i would make it sharable. Don't leave if you've never listened to my fancy altro do it just once for me please. Okay if you enjoy sharable and you find it valuable. There's a few ways that you can support the show one. You can share it on social media. Which i strongly encourage. I mean it's literally the name of the show to you can review it on itunes stitcher or wherever you get your podcasts and if you're an overcast user as many of my listeners make sure to click that starbuck on the episode of luck the third way you could support the show is by blogging about discussing it on your own podcast or even by making a youtube video where you talk about one of the episodes and then the final way that you can support. The show is by putting directly on patriotic. You can find the link in the show notes. 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What Remains Unanswered After The 2020 Election, with William Howell and Luigi Zingales
"You chicago sara. School of public policy offers credential programs that suit any schedule to upskill quickly earn credentials and data analytics international finance writing analyzing the election results explorer. Five to seven week courses topped by world class faculty add to your professional toolkit in two thousand and twenty one learn more at harris dot eu chicago dot edu slash credentials. The twenty twenty election for all intents and purposes is over after four long tense days. We've reached a historic moment in this election results from the state of pennsylvania. Those results are in right now. Based on what we are seeing there the fox news decision desk can now project. The joe biden has won the keystone state. Pennsylvania haydn president-elect how the united states. it's hard to think of a recent presidential election that has raised more questions than this one with the highest turnout for both candidates. What message are the american people. Sending to their elected officials. Why did the poles again get it so wrong. And what will joe biden. Presidency actually looked like to get answers. We turn to to the top experts that we know that bob did. We should remember. Because i think is being potent is. The country has even a enormous proof of democracy. The participation as being unprecedented luigi in is a professor of economics at the university of chicago and host of another university. Chicago podcast network show. Capital is it. We're also joined by. We'll howl chair of the university of chicago political science department and host of yet another university of chicago podcast network show other politics podcast. The fact that the republicans are likely to maintain control of the senate that they picked up seats in the house. They have six to three majority in the supreme court. This is not a table that's been set for a democratic president with a really ambitious progressive agenda. It's a university of chicago. Podcast network election special. And this is big brains. A podcast about the pioneering research and pivotal breakthroughs. That are reshaping our world on this episode getting a grip on the twenty twenty election. I'm your host paul rand all right terrific well first off. Thank you for joining on. What has been an absolute roller coaster of a period of time. I wonder if each of you can recall what your first thoughts were. As the election results began rolling in. And how do they proceed during the week. We'll why don't we start with you. Well i think we learn something early on and that was followed by a long agonizing period of uncertainty so we learned early on. We weren't going to have a a repudiation of trump and then you know. I figured we weren't gonna learn anything for a few days so i went to bed the night chuck by phone in saw. That trump had declared victory in thought. This is the worst possible scenario right. This is this is what we feared now. I think we've crawled back from that moment. Not just in terms of the vote totals but also in terms of that sense of precarity. Who are on on sounder. Ground right now than we were then but it was pretty harrowing. Well i know from your podcast that you're huge topical bell fan. Did you at any point feel this urge to run out and get a giant bean burrito or anything like that. You know the breeders. Good but i like the for a festive night like election night or with meant to be tested on a mark the occasion. I like the nachos. I like crunchy. Supreme rita supreme. That's what i had the crunches pretty critical for celebration isn't it. It really is critical of the hot sauce. You can't go. We'll luigi as and i know you talk about food all day long as well what what is. She recalled this happening on on election. Night what were your thoughts running through your head. I was wondering how could post at screwed up a second time. This much. This thing about polling clearly was not all wrong but it wasn't anywhere near the sweep or the wall that was projected. And i wonder if you have any ideas why i want to say two things about the polls. The first thing i want to say is that they got it wrong at the state level more than they got it wrong at the national level. It was a decisive win. The national level we will get the popular vote. It's at the state level that you have around and this is in the aftermath of all kinds of trend lines making life more difficult for pollsters fewer and fewer people answer the phone right getting representative samples are response rates between four and eight percent. It's awfully hard to say to generalize any population to my mind. Key thing that's happening. We lockable people point to the difficulties of figuring out who the likely voters are. I think what's happening. Rather is that getting representative state samples as hard because everybody's on their cell and then you carry the cell number when you leave the stage and so just so. I think that's a big. That's a big of it. The other thing that i want to say though is that. I hope that this kind of energy that we pour into horserace conversations and the extent to which we look at holsters as being kind of tribunes of the people and beacons of of light that we should kind of bow before i hope we. We disavow ourselves of that campaigns. Are you if that unique moments then certainly rare moments for the country to come together and ask hard questions in speak across difference and instead we have about polls and right. We have very little to show for it. Well we how do you feel about that. Because i think we're never gonna wanna give up our At least perception that we can see around corners. Are we know that's for sure. And this is a little bit like in the stock market with we as What are going to be next day. Just before the announce and writing is not a particularly high social value activity but is an activity that these compensated wealth is considered a while in the stock market is going to be while also the polls market and malls the in my view make money by telling stories that customers want to listen rather than getting it right. I think the other big issue is that people are afraid to say they're gonna vote for trump. I saw a poll. The says that forty five percent of republicans are afraid for that job to reveal the devil for trump. that's an interesting stat. This is particularly true among ironically college educated people. It seems that the biggest mistake is that if you look at the polls they say the college educated white should go for by them with a twenty percent margin. Something like this if you look at some exit poll seems that they were pretty even so having that there was a gigantic mistake and i think this gigantic mistake is due to the fact that College located you don't want to tell your friends that you vote for trump. you're gonna tell a pollster. Yeah exactly yeah. I guess i think that's really interesting and important interested in exploring the phenomenon though it has less to do with correcting the polls and more understanding what that says about our politics that there are a whole host of people who feel like they cannot openly reveal to family to people who are anonymous to them. What their political views are. That's that speaks to this moment. And that's worth engaging okay well. Let's explore this question that you just went after. Why did he do so. Well do you guys think. I think this is a question that democrats need to be asking themselves for the next few years. Because if your essentially or your left of the political spectrum you look at this cascade of offenses in think how is it possible that the electorate puts up with this and the issue is readily framed as a willingness to look the other way amidst one offense or another And i guess what i'd suggest. Is that no. There are people who really liked this man who find meaning in him who who believed that he is. He speaks for them and to my mind. A big part of it has to do with the rise of populism in american politics legit. What are your thoughts on that i of allowed to say i'm a disadvantage because we all is a political science professor. I'm not gonna talk to you because you have the stock market. I don't want so. I feel a bit at a disadvantage. I have a quite a different view. Innocence the only thing. I strongly agrees that they have to spend the next four years trying to understand that. But honestly i think many of the more moderate conservative did not like trump. That's why he lost for example. Suburban women rejected trump. Because of his demeanor however i think trump as identify a need that was not fulfil in the political spectrum in the united states which is anti free trade and conservative. This part was completely underserved. Ackley underserve is understatement. Was not at all the democrats are to socially lira and publicans go through what are called invisible primaries i so they go with rich donors and the donors for money. And if you anti free trade at that round your history. I don't think that trump invented a new form of populace trump actually rediscover an element of democracy that democracies there to create demand from a cup was entity to represent the interests of the people. I think that the fact that the republicans held on did reasonably well is further evidence that this most recent election wasn't a huge repudiation of trump. That people who stood close by or were willing to either accommodate or enabled trump or not punished at the polls because many democrats hope that they would be. I disagree that trump assumed a set of widely popular positions that lou the characterization of a set of people who who voices were not adequately here dr politics i think is fair but i don't think that broadly the public was looking for big tax cuts for corporations and for people who are the highest earners or looking for a wall to be built on the southern border. Or we're looking for a trade war with china or we're looking for a more relaxed stance. These are they rushing warned available in china. I disagree on the other. One absolutely right but but the the position of china and i'm not endorsing what trump donald china but the elite particularly economic elite completely of trade is great and make a sense of it and this has devastated the midwest and this people are angry and they are rightly angry for that. Yes because of july oblong plea agree with that. Yeah the anger and the disaffection in the sense that the system is broken is something that he tapped into into my mind. That is part of both the popular the populace kind of strategies and the rhetoric that he deploys end helps explain. The anti democratic small d democratic posture assumed throughout his presidency. And why he caused you to ariel threat to democracy. It isn't just somebody who was assumed a different set of positions or is like a new brand of republican. He somebody who has pushed back in all kinds of really important ways against democratic institutions democratic norms democratic practices. that's a constituent feature of his presidency. Isn't he's not just kind of a a new guy who rethought a couple of positions that has attracted some additional votes so the the democratic party is now gonna sit down. I can only imagine not only trying to get ready to transition. But they're having some of these same conversations of what we learn out of this and we've got another two years. We might be able to flip some additional seats after you get past january and in georgia. What what are the. What are the democrats learning from this. What do you think they need to learn out of it and do you think they will. This is where. I agree with a number of things that louise i think they need to recognize. That significant portions of the american public have suffered under a set of policies evolving open free rise of globalization automation that they haven't stepped in in a meaningful sense in a robust sense instead. The government hasn't served you well and i'm going to stand by you a big thing that i think. Democrats ought to learn not all but significant number of democrats. Their view is that look. The government can solve problems and what the public simply to recognize is that the government is essentially good and the problem. They have is a pr problem to communication problem. It's about you just don't see all the goodness that flows from the government and that to my mind is a losing proposition for the democrats. What they ought to do is to step up and say you know what they government. In many ways is broken in many ways it has been an abject failure it hasn't delivered on and that isn't to say that then we ought to disavow the government or that we should somehow turned in the all become libertarians but rather the democratic party would do well to take some ownership of the failures of government to solve problems and to set. Spend some attention to how they want to rebuild institutions in the service of a more effective government. Louis j at do you think he's right in this first of all. I think he's a distinction between what they should learn and what they will absolutely. Let's start with what they should learn. I mostly agree with well. One thing that they should learn is they push too much the identity politics in this in the day. Same california where they walk by a gigantic margin a referendum block the use of discrimination favor disadvantaged communities and and they lost by fifty six to forty four so i think it was a pretty wide margin so even the most out call democrats. Don't want that as a center of the policy the second thing they need to understand the economic issue this is what is a bit tricky because they need to bypass the business elite that is behind both parties but increasingly so the democratic party. Everybody thinks about democratic party as the party of the people you can't we casali with the fact that creek water of the sap fantasy yo endorsed by for president. The fact that biden defeated tramp in money raised by a huge margin and non money raise only in small donation. Money raised by the donors the fact that the top of the administration of the ballot ministration will becoming we see the first signs that heavily position team come from goldman sachs. The ad of tax policy is the former beagle cancel of facebook. And then you go down and you see that this is a party that would like to be a party of the people in fact is the party of the each these soul-searching mccray party something extremely difficult. And i'm not so sure they will be able to do it but that's what they should do. We'll take that same question and apply it to the republican party. After the break as the world resets be part of the rethinking remapping and retooling to address. Society's most challenging issues be part of lasting change with the part time you chicago policy degree from the harris school of public policy evening. Masters program built your data science and analytical toolkit to take the next step in your career apply by december fifteenth at harris dot. You chicago dot edu slash evening program so luigi and will. What do you think the gop should learn from trump's loss and more importantly what do you think they will learn if that's a different answer. I think vote for the sake of the country rather than the republican party. I think that they should be A reasonable conservative. Paul pola party. Who for example are moving in this direction. Trying not to be just the party of business and defend the business interest by trying to respond to that demand that trump identify and i think the day actually evan enormous opportunity because the power would not discuss so far is that you have a third of african american. Who voted for him. You f- i think twenty six percent of hispanic and eighteen percent blackmails numbers. That would be hard to reconcile with some of the rhetoric that trump used but some of the rhetoric that the democratic we're using the they'll racist all bigots and so forth. And i think that if they were to give legitimate and democratic responses democratic with a small d to the questions that trump was addressing. I think that they are in a majoritarian party. In america for a long time and they will stabilize the the american system. The fear is that they as will say they flood with these alto italian ideas and that will be they dangerous country and i think transition chew from what you would hope they would be to. What's most likely to happen. Not seeing trump in trumpism and populism going away. These leanings yearnings four authoritarianism. These demagogic appeals. He's racialized feels combined with voter suppression efforts all the work of the republican party when it comes to salt. Small d democracy has been about reducing the franchise shrinking the franchise not expanding it and. That's no small part. Because they see the writing on the wall which is a set of demographic changes which disadvantage them an for which they in order for them to tain their hold on power. They need a senate they need. They're to start celebrating the judiciary and the need to do everything they can to push back against rising levels of ternate and so my best. Guess about what's going to happen is we're not going to see them taking the kind of stock that we saw them taking the aftermath of romney's defeat than saying come on people speak clearly and reach out to be. We're having a hard time of it senses but rather trump is and will continue and continue to push back against our democracy and they're going to be the to the extent that they win. They're going to be a minute. They're going to be the minority party. There's not an accident that they're not winning the popular vote in presidential elections. And this go around. If trump beets every conceivable odd and somehow takes the office go round it will be in the aftermath. Having lost the popular vote by five to six million people unbelievable and that's the kind of groundwork for presidential politics for some time to come in. It's only going to be weighing more in favor of the democratic party. Okay so here. We go at an and assuming that the democrats are not going to take the senate as we get into January we're going to end up of course in divided government and i wonder what you think that's going to look like will and we do have biden who's seen as this consensus builder. Or is he going to have some of the same experiences with mcconnell in the senate that obama ran into so the fact that the republicans are likely to maintain control of the senate that they picked up seats in the house. They have a six to three majority in the supreme court. This is not a table that's been set for a democratic president with a really ambitious progressive agenda. There are set of things that were talked about at length during the democratic primaries. That his best. I can tell her off the table. We're not gonna get single. Payer healthcare were not going to overturn the trump tax cuts. We're not gonna pack the court. That's not to say that nothing will be done. Legislatively on the will be some things. I think we can. Well imagine stimulus act put forward and taken up. I think i can. Well imagine some action happening on infrastructure. It'll be interesting to see whether or not any progress is made on immigration. I wouldn't expect anything comprehensive in that space but if any if any action happened in this space the things with the clearest partisan that will be advanced are going to be things that are advanced unilaterally so the overturning of all the deregulatory activities into the trump administration on that it's gonna be unilaterally but when it comes to legislative enactments. I think we're not gonna see very much and what we do see is going to be pretty centrist. Okay and luigi as we think about this certainly wall street prefers this idea of divided. Government is is that accurate. Oh absolutely because they know that nothing major would be done and they like squall biden. Coutrai if you things could try for example increasing the minimum wage e. Ken tried to introduce a public option. So the lead there is no way is going to do a major reform and healthcare but if introducing public option could be a way forward but they agree with will is an enormous amount of stuff he can do from a regulatory point of view without passing law for the epa. Two of course what he can do. The ftc and the doj format competitive point of view. I wrote before the election. I wrote a piece on the wall street journal saying that the department of justice suit against google was a poison pill for biden because now biden finds south with an open case. If he closes it looks like is two week with big tech if he endorses it than he finds it trouble with his house. Particularly the one on camera. How is remember that from day. One camera is running for president. Okay so clearly transition president and we game is what happened in two thousand twenty four. I wouldn't count out trump between four either in person or through one of his kids. All right. well. Let's get to this. Because i wonder luigi if you can tell me what you think. A biden economy is gonna look like you know. This is a question because nobody knows what biden really stands for and it's always been a model at this changed a lot over his live. And also that other circumstances so i could see a biden that becomes an lbj and says i am at the end of my career. And i want to end with a bang and with a bank. Baking some major changes now. Of course the senate is a problem that way but at least i these these curation days the biden that is cooperating with everybody in the senate is not not gonna get very much done but i think the days also the tension and the thing is they imported for twenty twenty four and says by god elected by putting together a coalition that goes fom. Aoc to bill kristol. The only thing that kept together this coalition is our bad morally. Trump was okay was not an economic idea. Was moral idea now when you govern. Morality is not enough. You need to have a common vision. And i don't see this common vision and what i fear is that this collision will break. Apart and so the next democratic president presidential candidate will have to give up one of the two wings and that would make him aho extremely weak in the sort of a resurgent tramper look alike. So i'm interested in hearing what would you thinks about the relationship between economic growth under biden and our efforts to get a handle on covert. We haven't said cova yet. It's clearly the number one issue that biden plans to attend to and by his account right the only way we get back economies by first getting on top of the pandemic by much twenty twenty one we will have a vaccine that people start to deploy and buy them could be faster in deploying this in that sense biden as it easy because he gets on the way out so i don't think he has to do a lot to get the infection on the controlled by that time would be one way or another on our way down we'll thanks for bringing it up the covert component and what we're not tackling even if we get covert under control is some of the bigger existential issues that are facing our world and they almost got lost completely out of sight during this election cycle and whether it's climate change or some of these other topics there's been minimal to no discussions about those. Are we gonna put those on the back burner for the next four years just because they are so far out in so unreachable That will never get alignment on them or do you think we can actually make progress on them. I don't think given the makeup of our federal government that we can expect to see a robust response to climate change in the near term. But i think that both to maintain the democratic coalition end to attend to the very reality that is climate change biden would do well to begin to structure conversations much more robust conversations than we've had up until now about the problem. This isn't about him delivering his solution to congress on day. One now green new deal on day one. No that's not gonna happen but you can do a whole host of things unilaterally which have some policy value maybe have even greater symbolic value. He can talk about the issue. To a greater extent he can commissions than will lay out pathways to attending to this issue. He can formulate Reenter international agreements. He can't simply ignore it simply. Because you know there's not a pathway to advancing change legislatively. He can't afford to do so either. By reference to his base and keeping the coalition together or being responsible president which is about attending to profound national international challenges that significant portions of the public be ready yet to attend to leadership is about we are. Now what seventy stays days out from a dog ration- but as as you know were still have a president who's disputing the results is. We started getting ready for this. Podcast producer was was saying. Hey here's what happened the last hour you know. We have a lot of ground here before. We get to inauguration day. You project is going to happen during this period. Trump has not conceded No proclivity to concede. There are no signs of the administration preparing to or being disposed to cooperate with the incoming administration. And it's too bad because there's a lot of examples of the early tenure of presidential administrations in the aftermath of chaotic transitions underperforming and that is problematic. Both in terms of the capacity of the government itself to take the actions that need to be taken. But it's also problematic in that where there is chaos domestically that creates space for other countries to misbehave. That creates space for the kind anger. And disaffection this corroding our politics to take even wrote so no. This is not just a lost opportunity. It's something that's causing real damage. I think that trump is half looking to face defeat. So we'll be a bit crazy. Yes the part that we should remember. Because i think is being potent is. The country has given a enormous proof of democracy the participation as being unprecedented and took place in the most difficult moment in history in the most smooth way mystery and says say there was there were no disorders. There was no shooting. there was no thing. so easy. Going to concede maybe not. But who cares this. Yes that will be a delay in a position. I agree with that. Every transition period is difficult even under the situation but we know we have seen tangible transition when in nine hundred thirty one thirty two. When were was elected hoover was so desperate that went and ask for advice and roosevelt said no because he wanted sort of our older responsibility to fall river and then the day after he took over the bank holiday and make all the changes so i think that the tension in the administration change have been there for a long long time and i don't think we need to exacerbate that. I think that what. I'm very happy about is that the victory is pretty clear is not in question says my my biggest fear was award in which they difference was so close that will be was all by the supreme court so you ever ward in which the army says the legitimate president donald trump because court has decided that but the rest of the country would not accept it and then would be like devastated. I don't think we're there. I don't think that i'm not a lawyer. But everybody says that he's married to any of the claims that he makes. And and this point. I don't even see john roberts being so crazy to defend go down in flames with him so i think that the decision would be much better than people expected with a lot of ugly tweets but i chose not to follow donald trump and i leaned heavily. Seventy million people do follow him right. Seventy million people. That voted for him. I agree with you the turnout as high as it is is a mark in favor of democracy and particularly that we pulled it off during pandemic just as we have an outcome that is reasonably clear. Thank goodness for that when we think about the possibilities of transition a peaceful transition of power but only other side. We have a republican party. That is silent and there are a number of vocal members. Were coming out saying yes. Keep pushing that. These court cases lack any merit and yet trump is pushing them in order to kind of again so the anger to convince lots of people that the biden cheated and that when biden assumes office he's going to be governing govern- country in which a lot of people will think all caught facts to the country about be will think that in fact he did cheat and so that's not to say that we won't make it through. I'm hopeful that we will make it through. I think that there are This could have been much worse but boy art. Our democracies degraded by virtue of the last four years and the the predilections of the man has been in office. I think is amoah. Institutions are degraded rather our democracy. I think that the democracy as paradox has been strengthened because more people are participating to the electoral process. More people understand. How important is and i am a bit more optimistic because even fox's abandoning trump so i think that I'm not that worried about moving forward. I am worried about. Is that the been a lot of people fire in the administration because they were not doing. What the president said even when this was against the law and we need to go back to a normal country where you have the right to disagree when this is involve not when this involves breaking the law. I think that this was the country. That was after watergate empowered because the people who went along pay the price and the people who did knob go along became the heroes so i think that is important to establish some institutions. I think that eight years in a row of trump would have possibly destroy norms. I think now the affected. But i think they're still a solvable. A lot of work to do going ahead here so we were going to check back with you guys as we start looking at these things and we'll check back and see how this progresses really appreciate it. You bet thanks a lot. Big brains is a production of the chicago. podcast network. If you like what you heard please give us a review and a rating shows hosted by paul rand and produced by me mad hoed up with assistance from illicit eats. Thanks for listening.
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Non-Alcoholic cocktails in Detroit w/ Kevin Peterson, Castalia
"Welcome to your daily detroit for thursday. May sixth twenty twenty one and today is a fun one. I know we devote a lot of time on the show going out drinking enjoying things but one of the most requested things discussion around non alcoholic cocktails ways to have fun without booze. Or go drinking without booze what you can do so do that. Kevin pietersen castiglia cocktails joins us. We'll get to it. After we think our members on patriotic patriot dot com slash. daily detroit. It is you who are helping push detroit's conversation forward you can join them at patriotair dot com slash daily detroit all right. Let's get started joining me on the line. Kevin pietersen from ca stallion cocktails longtime listeners. Might recognize his voice from around the beginning of the pandemic. We have not caught up with this friend of the pot and a while and i regret that kevin. Welcome back to daly detroit. Well thanks for having me to be here when it comes to things tasty things experimental things that smell wonderful i think about you and i think about castiglia at sumatra which is a great little bar that is basically in the lower level of a historic house. In midtown is visited myself. Had a wonderful experience there. And i figured when i got a slew questions along the same line. You're the guy that i needed to give a ring to. And the question is very simple and i will put it best buy listener. Sam at samuel l t two to two to three i know it sounds like a fake handle but i know it's not because they're a remember they would love a survey of non alcohol that cocktails. What can we do in detroit when it comes to non alcoholic options. There are a number of people who decided to go booze less or less booze or have an option in between drinks. Where maybe they don't necessarily want to get lit up the entire night first off. Is this something that can be done here in detroit. Yeah yeah absolutely you know. It's it's a trend. The calling drinks was starting to get a little press pre pandemic and i think you know when the world turned upside down and we all turn to alcohol or a lot of us turned alcohol. A little more you know after that phase past we all thought. Hey what are non alcoholic options. I've never really looked into this. And since casali opened half of our menu has been drinks with alcohol. Half our drinks has been alcohol. And you know as you mentioned. It's it's both kinda teetotalers. I don't drink at all and it's people that want to extend their evening and say you know. My limit is three drinks with alcohol. But you know. I grew fast enough on in an hour and i want to hang out for three hours. So i'm gonna intersperse drinks with alcohol with some a cocktails and and that's probably the the way i've seen more people Doing it at least in my bar. We certainly get some people. Don't drink at all but it's it's a lot of saying okay. I'm gonna have to with one with a one with one without and that's gonna be my night and yeah that you know we've gotten suppress around that and Actually a few other businesses in the area have reached out so and just work with these co working space over an eastern market. They had a coffee program. They wanted to expand their offerings. A little bit. So we designed what i think of as a aaa style menu. You go in you. Choose your base Are you going to do botanical soda. Lemonade hot coffee cold coffee. You can choose a creamer. You can choose a flavor so all. The flavors are different botanical. you know from beijing. Spice cardamom nutmeg sick And chicory and orange flower and basically any pair works with any flavor she kick if you want a black pepper orange lower lemonade or a nutmeg cardamom coffee or juniper coriander soda and no matter which combo you pick some of them are little weirder than others but they all work so it's kind of a cool choose your own adventure thing and then the other project which which hasn't launched yet but it is imminent Working with omar saffron de trois he Serves a how long been you know. Alcohol should are In his establishment. And we're working together on some non alcoholic base spirits in quotation marks. So we went through and said well what what is alcohol provide to the palette. You know you get a little bit of a burn. You get some kind of tactile feedback. You get You know we just kind of picked it apart and said what are the qualities that we feel sense when we take a sip of alcohol. And how can we recreate those impressions with plants. So these are basically botanical spirits. Done with hot water extraction that near the experience of drinking gin or whiskey. But they're entirely botanical based in no No alcohol so it's you know it's basically cocktail menu but none of the drinks are based drink alcohol based around these extraction severin day. Twelve people don't now that is a place with a lot of tasty offerings at if you haven't checked it out yet you're sleeping on it because it it's really tasty. James beard nominee Eater restaurant of the year. They're not no slouches over there. They're they're making it. Happen is a beautiful space as well. So that's really cool that you're doing that kind of work but if someone wants to get into it they could also just go to castiglia. What are some of your thoughts around how to design a non alcoholic cocktail that that gives a similar feel as far as senses without the boost. Part yeah yeah. If i had to sum up briefly i would say the big challenge is making a complex enough people. Drink at slowly okay. It's a little bit too easy to make things that are light bright sweet. You know lemonade style drinks. That don't have booze but people say wow. This is good golf club and it's gone. It's like not gonna buy another one. That was only a two minute experience personal story that for me and i know that some people don't love it but i go if i go to starbucks i get that very berry hibiscus and i get the giant one and for some no matter how much i try to resist myself in five minutes because it's exactly what you're talking about. Yeah yes so you you so you. I'm kinda pulling every trick carbonation slows you down a little bit better nece. Bitterness sourness are two of the big things. And that kind of that and burn that you get from the alcohol which in in the non-alcholic Projects and sort of recreating that either jalapeno tincture or black pepper. Ten share or something that kind of gives a little bit of that spice and slows you down a little bit. So so that's the whole game for me is just getting people to slow down and you know making sure there's enough complexity there sort of keep you interested while you're sitting man for twenty thirty minutes or however long You've got another important key is involving not just taste but smell. I know that that's something that you inc castiglia. That i think is rather unique because i think a lot of places. Even other places that serve craft cocktails. There isn't as much emphasis on that. And because you do that it actually adds a lot to the experience makes it more of more of a joy as opposed to just drinking the booze down the hatch you know. Sometimes i think about my role. And i feel like one of my one of the things i'm doing is helping people kind of rediscover their own senses of smell and i know for me a lot of time. Eating very utilitarian way Crap i forgot to have sandwich gonna get some fast food like. I just need to have calories like doing my thing and you know sort of reintroducing people and saying there's a lot of beauty and harmony and potential here if you stop and slow down and you know there's so many novel flavors out in the world that we haven't experienced and haven't found different combinations to to play off of and that experience so yeah can sell ya. All the drinks are served as sent plus cocktail hearing so you get the sense either on the napkin. The garnish something. And you know. I talk about on the podcast but experiencing it firsthand and even if i talked to people through it okay so i want you to drink drink and then smell this smell like okay. Whatever and then they try and they're like kind that really changes things. I didn't expect that it's like yeah. Yeah this you know you invest in you know visual art to look at you invested music but are investing in your sense of the scent and taste in the same way and seeking out these interesting experiences. It can be on a level of art or music. So that's really how i look at things. I feel like a great pro tip for a date would be ducasse talia and then say the dia on a friday night when that's a thing or do the dia. And then custodial that pairs well together. Yeah yeah you know. We used to get some like three symphony. Pretty free games. And yeah we're in town just has so much who'll Cultural stuff to do to be on the food and drink seen so. Yeah a lot of options. I do wanna get into talking about the business in a little bit. Because i am fascinated with what you've been doing there but i do want to give people some some tips specifically alan use the word marooned but if you are somebody out at a bar with some friends and let's say you wanna do a break in between drinks and do something on alcoholic or for whatever reason you want to slow it down. But you don't want to just say get a water or a coke. What our suggestion or two that you might have for somebody who wants to try something on alcoholic but you know they they they. They're not at castiglia. Big thing to figure out is what what non alcoholic liquids do. They have in the house so if they're doing cocktail they certainly have juices and syrups and a lot of things to make the flavor interesting and you really need to figure out what can be the base of crank. That's not you know. Waters not really appropriate. Doesn't have enough flavors. They have enough body. If so what i do i look through the mixers for the other things. Like what are the non alcoholic liquid than i know. They have in stock because they're putting them and other drinks. Does this have a key in. Are they making entering sip coffee. Are they making you know what other kind of dinner drinkable liquids do. They have coconut water and makes a great base so kind of assessing. Hey what else is behind that bar there. And then a quick ratio. That i use a lot. Two ounces of a base liquid half ounce of citrus and half onset the sweetener if you shake that up that's usually thirty tasty whatever. She got him the house. Whether it's lime lemon grapefruit sweetener. It could be anything from simple syrup. Honey maple syrup and and then base liquid could be like tea coffee. Coconut water You know something something interesting enough that people drink on its own hopefully with a touch of bitterness to slow down but if you kinda followed that that ratio that'll usually get you something. Pretty decent on every bartender wants to be told exactly what today. But you know gotta be a little tax there. One thing i've gotten into when i don't want booze but i'm interested in a drink and this doesn't work for everybody. 'cause i'm gin and tonic. Drinker is a black tonic. Coffee and tonic water. Yeah yeah that the drink has kind of been making the rounds it's And yeah like a lot of places. Have a catatonic and in the tonic. Has some bitterness is interesting enough that it can support a a drink in that way so totally excellent drink. So let's get into the the kind of thing that's been chatting over everything. The pandemic still standing in that. It's an accomplishment. How how how have you done it. My man i feel like there's been a lot of winding roads from being friends with you on facebook but You're standing which is an accomplishment. And i think i want to congratulate any of the businesses or frankly people in general if you're still standing after all this that is in fact an accomplishment. Thank you thank you. It's it's been a year it's been interesting. It's it's forced us to adopt a number of business model some of the models. We've said okay. We've proven we don't like this. Slum never have to go back to that in some of them. We've said wow this. This actually reminds us of some of our favorite things about the bar so most recently we've been doing single group as rations. Just one group books the entire space for ninety minutes and they come in and i just started asking them. Maybe see any bottles. You wanna try. What kind of drinks. You're young to do any spirits wanna taste. You wanna taste a quarter ounce of every round the mic collection. Change to share. Let's go through and it's really been fun to be able to connect with people in that way and to know that they're not just there for one drink. I can kind of get through experience. And oh if a question comes up about this oh well. Let's try to spirit answer that question. And that's that's something we want to take forward so we're gonna leave the inside as reservation based through the summer. We're going to reopen the patio as a walk up know reservation needed. Just walk up and grab grank. And then i think the other really interesting thing. That's come out of this is with the to go cocktail laws. We've we've selling to go cocktails. And that's that's been a great boost especially through the winter. That really helps keep us going but the most interesting thing from that law is that we can now teach classes where i give you a kit with all of the alcohol in already and all the other ingredients so we'd been teaching classes about with ski about rum about technique fundamentals and getting into some more esoteric stuff giving people a little vials of follicles. And saying this is what makes you risky taste this way. You make this molecule and lincoln rooms but not in venezuelan rum's and So yeah online. Classes and that the teaching component has always been something that i've enjoyed but never was kind of a central part of the business model and that's it's become more of a thing since pandemic zoom hang out. Classes is a little bit more On people's radar no talking rum. Molecules paging engineer randy paging engineer randy. Indeed indeed. I understand that in fact you're hiring as well which i know that a number of restaurants and bars are but you're really looking for a couple of people for specific experience and one of the things i can say about it being a smaller space that you know you don't have as high volumes of the opportunity you to Expand a little bit more with what you want to try key talk about like what you're looking for because i know a lot of places are looking for help but i also know that a lot of people who work in hospitality are a little concerned that that the patrons aren't going to be the greatest but that doesn't seem to be the case with you guys. Yeah knock on wood. I hate to say it out. Loud and jackson. But we've had greg customers. My facebook feed is full of horror stories of the service industry. And we haven't you know we haven't had to fight any customers about wearing masks. We haven't had. We haven't been at all which. I laughed but like i know a number of people that have been spent on like what is going on in the world that makes me spit on someone but Our customers have been great. And yeah we. We've got a small space. We've you know we've been very copen. Save throughout all this. I've been talking to my staff at every step and saying you know this thing we're comfortable with. We wanna make money but you know if we're putting ourselves in jeopardy in the process that we're really just missing the point here so Yeah we we've been like with a single group. We haven't allowed copen vector from the bar because no group has seen any other group. So yeah we've we've been very conscientious of that. And i think you know. The pandemic has called out a lot of non ideal things about the service industry. And we're trying to address as many of those as possible in a lot of those things were in place even pre pandemic For us but yeah making sure. We're respectful environment making sure we don't drink a lot on the job. Take six week as things for sure but being around alcohol. The time can be a double-edged sword and for people that are looking for an environment where i would say flavor is front and center and instead of alcohol. We certainly serve alcohol but One about kind of the intrigued that comes with flavor and exploring different mechanical and training weird spirits from around the world so and and that's why the non alcoholic place so well at our place is because we really are about flavor more than just purely boots and so you're looking for a couple of bartenders. I understand yeah a couple of bartenders that really want to you know and i think the ideal candidate is either. Someone newer the industry that really wants to learn housing lines. You know the science of why you shake a drink for this long or how you drink or how you go about. Hey here's a cool route. Did i read about. How do i go about this labor into a cocktail you know or someone a little bit older in the industry who really wants to be able to practice their craft at a high level and have a lot of customer action. Have a huge back bar with a lot of interesting spirits and have a lot of creative freedom to say you wanna put doing something menu. You wanna run specials. You want some budget to just explore a weird flavor project that you've been thinking about for a while and never really had the band with new like i want you to do that. we have. We have dedicated hours on off days when we come in and just play with and ton. It's awesome But you know it. It's not we're not high volume were were all about the experience where more you know kind of high touch with the customers and if that's something you think you would tried with we would we love to hear from you. Kevin pietersen castiglia cocktails dot com. I appreciate you. And i look forward to raising a drink with you later. 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