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Final Four Preview

Courtside with Seth Greenberg

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Final Four Preview

"Slam jam Ben dick, what are you doing warm up for the game? I all the games I watch even when I can't get tickets. It helps bring stadium atmosphere to wherever on watching all the diaper. Daddy, doesn't again come on dick save it for the air. We've got a game and check out vivid seats. It's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to vivid seats for the windy. The buzzer. Sometime. Coincide with Greenberg. Dockage the definitive college basketball podcast. Welcome to court Sabbath Greenberg. Dockets this quick passing. The final four is on us. I mean, the only thing that falls the final four is too. Great Gruber dockage next round of golf competition. Which is. Yeah. That's that's just a model on mono absolute odd magic. I mean, you walk taking your shoes off. And there's a beach into one, and you you you beat me. Got me twice. All right. But I felt I had to go and get baptized. I go into the sea. It was unbelievable. Four Seth Wayne think man. I mean like all right. So let let let's let's look at this here, Texas, Tech Michigan state. I'm going to say it, and then you can expound upon it. Definite rock fight rock, light rock five rock fight. Which I take mutt? I take is. I'm so glad Michigan state's there because I just like this. I like this team. I don't think there's a there may not be a pro on Michigan state is that is that possibly switch. It has come back. Does he come? Look if you're going to college accomplishments. No. But if you're going on what the NBA looks. Yes. About for Texas Tech, three cones pro. No. But Jack overs Culver. Yeah. He's to why he's the one guy Moretti might eventually he can really really shoot it. But I mean, this is a game. This this is an old school final four semi game. This is older guys to a little bit older maturity experience. Obviously Michigan state's been together longer bears. Been able to get those guys playing like they've been given logger we've seen Texas Tech speed up Michigan made mincemeat out of their three point shooting. You and I both talked on our previous podcast how we felt like got sped up. I can they speed up. Michigan state. Can they speed of cash Winston? Yeah. That's what it's gonna come down to like when mission Sates. Good cash. Winstons ten one dams that assist. One turn of when they're not good. He turns it over. And then all of a sudden they're playing from behind can they? Yes, will they I don't think. So I think they'll have possessions where that they will. But can they do that over the course of a game? I'm not sure because everyone talked about trade Jones being this great on both Fender. And he was he's a disruptive defender and cash has got a couple leanings where he got away with it. But that dude was like playing at you know, he was like in in the adult league. You know in Detroit just doing his thing. I mean that dude how good is he going to be in a wreck league in about fifteen years catches Winston at some point in his life will be the best player until he's ninety. He'll just whatever's. Shame. He's going to be the mayor of the trite governor of Michigan because you're brilliant kid. Great kids great kit my favorite kit. Junior junior in. Family. Yeah. After doesn't play not playing anymore junior ace my favorite co ACC offered this career gadgets was is my favorite kid to watch in college basketball because he doesn't have a great body. Feel good about my body. Yes. He he just balls. He's happy like I hate to say this. This is not a shot. But it is as I've gotten older and away from college basketball. I was the most miserable looking guy on a silent. Like, I look at coach K and for all the success. He doesn't look like he's having any funny looks miserable than you look in the crowd at Duke and everybody looks miserable and caches Winston. And I see a Duda. Just having a ball. I mean, I see Winston is just like smile in play and ball in and. Yeah. And it's interesting relationship he has with Tom TOMS challenging challenging challenging and as a freshman. He could handle it. As a sophomore junior. He embraces it. Yeah. And which is what what it's all about. I look at I look at this game. And just there's certain matches Mooney. And and caches Winston Woodson against Mooney in Texas Tech defense. I think that's going to be a really really interesting matchup. The speed of play can can they can they get Michigan state uncomfortable. Like they did to Michigan. That's going to be a an interesting thing. And then you know guy, we don't talk about Matt Quaid. Oh, like he's gonna end up on jar Culver, and they're gonna play obviously outnumber they're gonna they're gonna be physical. Now the motion is an issue because he's gonna get Sarah Kover coming up screens rescreen. He's going to be congenital calls issue. Please. The best off ball defender that I saw maybe Evers Ronald NORAD for Butler back in the win. Butler was rolling. I'm not so sure mcquaid isn't in the top five like when I watched mcquaid play playoff the ball. All and have to guard. Curls. And he is so locked any beach to the screen steps over the screen and he's good enough. And he understands enough that a guy can read it and pop back, and he gets there speaking, he's long to why I just I don't mean to stop you. Right. I agree. I think that is a horrible thing. That's a horrible matchup for Michigan state him garden called. That's that's that's one to watch her. Yeah. Hey, we'll be back in a minute. But first word from vivid seats think about this squared usually we get the freebies. You know, you could pick up the phone most times getting most readers get a pretty good seek and media pass. But there are times that are no freebies available having the right venue to get a good seat to a sporting event. And having that ability man, I that's good. What do you think about vivid seats? These were. Don't settle for waiting in lines. I don't I don't I don't like to you don't like to. None of us dues shop for tickets to every game with the official ticket partner of ESPN as vivid seats, vivid seats, here's really important. You see your seats before you buy you to me because I like sitting in their back by one hundred percent buyer guarantee, you may have to find another way to spend your time besides waiting in line, but you'll be closer to the action Seth and you've ever been before heading over to vivid seats, the largest independent ticket. Marketplace around I want to get to the headline. I want to get the best seats. I want to be up to get in the seat in Georgia's show and do whatever need to do. That's why you have to go to vivid seats, less time in the waiting room and more time in a great seats your choice. Don't just by any seat get vivid seat the one guy defensively. He's he's developing defenders Aaron Henry playing against emotion where hasn't seen tough. And you know, it's funny because the big ten used to be motion league, it's not as much or Ohio State more of emotion team. No. No pretty much sense. Right. Purdue runs it better than maybe anybody. They sprint off screens. They cut his home my gosh. But I so he's guarded that. And he's guarded. You know, he's guarded. Well, how about has wells Howard hand? Aaron Henry is development and that right hand jump hook. I still have figured out, but but his kit for left hand, but his his development in terms of maintaining a level of intensity for long periods of time has been really impressive. I mean because this with with Josh life. He was supposed to be a backup. He was supposed to be ten to eleven minute. A game player. The dude is playing thirty five thirty six thirty seven minutes and to be able to maintain that as a freshman under the microscope. They're under with the demands that they're putting on him. It's been really impressive. Seth he this is too. He's the lease going freshmen in the final Florida under six game five point eight a game. Now, that's that's a full grown nugget. That's that's not even more. So that's just. In a world, where freshman dominate everything here. We are in the biggest day to freshman star. Yeah. And look Henry to me is again, I'm going to give great credit junior. Yes. Junior siding junior was the team manager this summer for the Indian all star team which had Langford and Henry and a bunch of guys. It's a big deal in Indiana. You play Kentucky. And it's a big deal calls me. He goes dad, the winning guy in this entire thing. Both teams is Aaron Henry he is Romeo might be great again. He was a little bit. Like you on room you lot. Like you actually good player bumps in your with. Yes. He's like, Dan, I'm telling here and Henry is gonna win wherever he goes. And he was going to Michigan state because it's a perfect fit. Because the dude is tough. The dude is athlete. The do doesn't say nothing to do bosses. You know what? And he gets into lane. He can score. And he could jump over you in scorning rebound. He's willing to do it. I think it's going to be a great match. Like, I think if you said to me like if you said to me, take the shirts off. Put Duke shirts on and played Michigan state with with Texas Tech's team people would be so fired up for this match up because of the motion the cutting the movement and in Izzo story, but men I'll tell you what Seth I loved the way Texas Tech. And you you can you said this earlier they've developed their offense the middle of the floor spread out screen off the boss stay away from each other space space it out or doubt timing of cuts is huge in motion. I got the bond top now, I cut I don't ball's not over here. And I'm cutting over to my right. The balls to the Leno Chris beard and his staff have been great offensively. And I thought it really crushed Gonzaga. Can do it to Michigan state? I don't know. 'cause to big guys connect, that's the I think Michigan state win. My gut feeling right now is Michigan state wins this game because of saver Tillman? Yeah. And Kenny goin- and Tillman wasn't. He supposed to be a fifteen minute a game guy. Yeah. I mean. Well, here's the deal. Categories average, two points a game last year to rebound to country. It tillman. I got full disclosure. I've watched in practice two years ago and Thomas had got this. He's gonna be really good. And I'm watching practice, and I'm going like seriously that guy's lost twenty seven. He's got himself in great shape. He made to defensive plays in that game against Duke playing up the line denied entry passes with his hand across perfect. It was a clinical defensive plate. I think in the end Michigan state was going to win this game because of the three headed monster. Upfront is just a little bit more productive than the front court of Texas Tech's. That's my gut feeling I can say is going to win the game. But to go back is going to be a rock fight rock fights. Biggest play you cited you could say rock fight now. Yeah. Right with you. I mean, rob nothing better things play the game. And I may have this wrong. It was a nine point game. Michigan state is something to watch for three one. I thought they ran the floor and got three from acquaint on the right side. Yes. Yes. You know what I mean? And nobody got back and that kills you. Now. I do think this. I do think Texas Tech much better getting back on guarding and do not even close still cooked really yet when he got up nine. Yes, Duke looked really young right? And that's what that's my point is at all of a sudden, you get up nine and hit goes going here goes mcquaid, which in the scouting reporting his Michigan state you'd better block out and you better get back on defense. And you know, where the running winces got the ball mcquaid's on the right Henry's on the left and boom main street, they can do it. I do think this. I do think Texas Tech will what was it seventeen to four transition points or whatever it was do against. Was zero zero no points. I do think I do think that Texas Tech will do a better job of taking away transition because I don't think they turned out. You mentioned Moretti. I think Moretti's really good. It really is good. I think she can stay wins. All right. So get to Michigan state's slam champion. Maybe what are you doing warming up for the game? All the games, I watch even when I can't get tickets. It helps bring stadium atmosphere to wherever watch it. Doesn't come on Vick. Save it for the air. We've got a game and check out vivid seats. It's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to vivid seats for the win. The fighting Bruce Pearl's against Tony Bennett, the man who handles failure and defeat in the same way. He handles victory with Grace's voice things that quite honestly you and I would have no chat of. And one of the cool bad about myself. Wife divorce me Marianne really one of the cool moments to me after that game was his embrace with his dad. Yeah. I just thought, you know. I mean, you know, it sounds silly. But coming from coaching families, you know, your Latian ship with your kids and everything is it's hard. It's hard to be the coach Kate it's hard and probably being coached by your dad. It's hard to see, you know, as a parent to your kids go through difficult time like one sixteen. I thought that was his cool a moment as there was in the final four and then on the other hand, you you've got Bruce pearled. Okay. He goes down, but by Bob, and yet they still find a way to win who owns the tempo naked. Well, I I think I. Watching what Virginia survived and the barrage against Purdue. He say where the produce good team back down open that night. They were playing great. I think Virginia's gonna win the game. I just gotta believe that. Okay. Not being in. There is going to catch up to him against the team that I mean who's beaten Virginia. Luke twice state, Florida. Stay right now. I'm always say only four losses in the ACC over last year's that's another. I did say this after I watched Auburn up close this summer, or this this winter it was such a maker miss deal with them. So to say that I think Virginia's gonna beat I guess, but it's maybe hasn't been missing since they lost to Kentucky. Right. It's been making maker make now they won. They won the other day. They only made seven threes, and they still won had his Virginia deal with those high flat ball screens will they like me. My gut feeling is how they always deal with probably blitz him and hard hedge and come back. Let's hard hedge and come back and recover. Back like Kentucky switched him some. And they just went at retreive. He started rejected them when trying to push into the screen. To me guarding Harper and containing him and then Virginia's team defensive runs inside out in transition. They can't do that in this game. They've gotta run with bodies. Yeah. I mean because Brown at a plane the second half, he had a layup. Then he realized I don't do that. And he just backed out and got himself ready. Got behind the ball poop, not down. Now. I do not think that they will be able to export Kyle guy and tied roam the way they exploited tally hero in those kind of semi isos. And I think that's one of the reasons but I've picked against Auburn the whole tournament. So Bruce, you're welcome. Again, I think Tony Bennett. Learn something in the Carson Ebbers deal. I don't know if you saw this belated game. He decided he's leaving Drome left his men and went and double. Yeah. He just said to hell with this. I'm going to go double you. Somebody else is gonna make now that's where maybe k- k now being in. There can hurt where he can lift up shoot. Maybe purify has to make shot maybe purify has to make a plan on. No. But I gotta believe that. Tony Benn who I'm not you watch Virginia far more than I I'm not sure I've seen Tony Bennett do that. Now, I've never even that was totally out of character. Any luck tried Kia on them early everybody? He tried hunter on 'em. He did some switching had Drome little bit. No. That was out of character. And that's got to say, wait a second. We can't abuse. And I think you'll see that with Harper. Harper Brown, I prop Brown's probably canton or whoever's going. Yeah. Whoever's got a call, and they skirt fifty two points between them. Now. The one thing that. Without o'keith. And it goes back to Duke a little bit is you've got two guys that have scored half of their points. Right. Played. Can you win a game? With two guys without a KiKi scored half your points against Virginia team to basically, they're gonna close down one of those guys. So who's the other guy that steps up for? I don't know. Is there any other guy that can step up in the middle of the game yesterday against Kentucky? They start throwing the ball to Wiley, which is interesting because you wanna throw the ball inside because he calms everything down around in it. But you also want the guy inside to be able to do two things. Number one, make a basket. Number two, make a free throw or. Yes. Number three, passing us and out of it gets get double big debate. Right. So I don't have the answer that that's what I said earlier. Awful stretch in the in the middle of it which goes to trust, and Bruce as you said earlier, I think this I think that whatever needs to happen for Auburn. I've become a believer is going to happen meaning pure for needs a hit shots somebody's you'll make show early in the early towards the Tigers. I am, but I'm not alter mentally because I thought I really thought this pay say I say, I really thought I say. I thought if you're if you're going to beat Virginia Purdue was going to beat Virginia. And I know some lucky things happen. I get all that. But let's be honest. They had to get one. They had to it was a perfect a perfect storm. Miss a free throw or the games one. Bog, it's if you're going to tell me park is going to be running backwards with the clock running down from five point nine seconds into the back court. I'll take that one hundred one hundred times, but here's the point. They didn't beat Virginia. But is like so. Going potentially a worst to first scenario. Wow. I live for Jinya. I think they're. There's not the only thing they can get at times Kyle guy out there the difference car guy in that game and he struggled. He was like two for. He elevated man Seth he got against Brian Klein, and I love Ryan Klein, but I really well. And he knew that he continually got separation off of Ryan and Ryan knew it. And that's all I watched. I didn't even watch. Bob was just watching those two guys entire game. And I went back and watched it and my wife's like, why are you yelling 'cause that not couldn't talk and all of a sudden guy's gonna hit a three. She's just like you. You saw they can't guard him, but he actually elevated up on like like like I went back like he must. He was affected. More by the one sixteen in a pressure dancer AA. And then you make a great point because he was familiar with Kline. So that may be made him more comfortable than in that moment in time. That's that's that's a that's a great point. And you know, what really fall down. Now, you know stuff. He talking about when he played a ewbal. Did he really cross clan of enfold on singer rose played nine thousand he was working on clients? I think I think that was pretty good. All right, one of the cool moments. So and Carson Edwards was hitting all those you're gonna took the ball out of bounds and game thumbs up. Did you see that? Now, these guy do that. He he bangs his four three or whatever client to guide takes about bounds. Looks at Edwards and kind of gives them a thumbs cool affect the other thing was when the Keita made that shot and he was crossing Carson Edwards going to the bench fee over time. And. Carson Edwards slap the keypad on the chest and gave a smile like like respected as that was big those. Matt painter didn't mazing job. He's oh. Such a good, dude. And he always talked about selectively aggressive Carson Edwards. I think I got thrown out the window. Just do get as many shots as you. Can you make it every one of them? But was that's your best shooting up for two games fine in the second half of the verge or the Tennessee game. And then Edwards for basically was the best shooting you've ever seen. I'm believable. The shotmaking. And I think it also dispels it, you know, in terms of and everyone's we we had a little disagreement days like I said like Virginia system can win enough championship. And they may chassis another game. I get you to find four that. That sounds great. But in the end, they didn't change who they was like they were running up the floor, you know, shooting. I shot they were moving people screening rescreening getting of verse. They just happened to make a ton of shots. But to me, it's the system, it's the pack line. It's it's it's the motion. It's owning the tempo of the game. It's all those things to me that if you're able to do that and do it at a high level if you can only lose four ACC game in two years doing that. Then you know, what that's good enough to win Nash championship. Get set if for Jinya had lost. We would be talking about what an incredible disappointment Kentucky is lead eight hoop. Duke is. ACC tournament champs elite eight and Virginia ACC regular season champs analee. And all of a sudden that's a disciplined what the hell? Are these other guys doing that are making five million dollars a year at all these other schools have has thirteen guys? It's so he picking on picking Virginia, I've got Virginia. Well, so Burs sure in good shape. Thanks sponsor of today's show, vivid seats, I love seats, man. I don't wanna bats. You don't wanna good seek? You know, what I do I go to vivid seats and be sure to check out the hoop collective podcast with Brian winners as we draw closer to the NBA postseason. 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Final Four Breakdown

Behind the Bets

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Final Four Breakdown

"Pagey into the game kind of your money. That's how you find out that all my bets were safe that wouldn't be any juice juice point spreads the prophets. But teasers the parlays from Vegas to you. These these behind the bats. Welcome into the latest behind the beds podcast. I'm Doug kazarian taping this on April third it is Wednesday. And last week we had the kind of quick turnarounds with the games on Thursday. So now we have the full full week until Saturday's final four. But man, what an elite eight weekend, it was and truly truly awesome with Virginia's miracle, and then just the craziness of just Duke surviving as well in the Sweet Sixteen and ran out of ran out of luck there in the elite eight. Yeah. Felt like that entering their pixie dust because they they barely held on for the first couple rounds as it was. I mean at I sixty four and was now, but right? The thirty two and sixteen was they barely barely made it through. I do the team that like everyone may have been excited to watch Zion. But I also feel like Duke was a team that everyone just love to hate this year. I'm wrong year versus every I mean, you're right. I guess there is every year. But well that's been the big sort of like impressiveness of Zion. Is that he made Duke not eight less Hato. Yeah. Yeah. Actually you root for them. You know, speaking of Duke, I just want to know last week when we talked. He told me that you didn't leave your basement for basically an entire weekend other than to take out the trash and basically factually literary weekend. Yeah. Of every meal. I mean March I got home at Friday, and then you know, left actually left the premises Monday morning for work. Sure. I just got the garbage. And that's it. So how did it go this last weekend? It was good. I also was parked on the couch. And I started to get under the weather last Friday. Okay. I've worked every day. But like this week I've been able to come in late producers said kind of rest up so. Sir to get a bug. If you will Thursday night little tickle in the throat. So I parked myself all weekend on the couch, and I did leave for some fresh air. Saturday morning Saturday. I went and got the old pedicure. Oh, wow. Yeah. You loved your man cave for a pedicure right before the game. Started good for you man or the game start because a little later in the day. When you get to the lead eight I was able to get back in time for the second quarter of the clippers game matching the clippers and cats on the old three thirty tip. Yeah. But I was not worried about baseball. Now, the Yankees and Orioles were playing star the Orioles run trying to replay the weekend. So. Yeah. So I the talents needed some work. I'll tell you what if you are an exquisite gentleman that has never had a pedicure. You are missing out. Right. So that's the next step of this conversation. The shock value. I took it in stride. Well, well, done producer up. So you're a big fan of the pedicure Hughes pedicure fan. Now. I think now there's I'm going to go on a limb and say there are a lot of people listening. They're just kinda like what this is not gonna be a pedicure podcast, which would could be good spaces open there. I would. I think people knock it before. They try it totally. And as someone myself who bites my fingernails, not McDonnell. I have done I've done like three manicures in my life. Just because I have ugly fingernails by like they're like, oh, maybe maybe getting them professionally done. We'll stop you from non them hasn't worked. But I've gotten better. Maybe that's why I'm sick too and could be sticking germs and my mouth. Yeah. But no the pedicure like, I just don't click those things. And then you get the scrub and the now I don't get polish. I don't do that love. Now. Females do although they do ask like you wanna polish MC now? I mean, you could throw a little clear coat on there just to make Kobe. I think does that Bruce Bowen ways to him on air. I love Bruce the big on the manicures the polit. Now, I go that I get stuff cleaned in taking care of sure I mean fee just in general, not for you in particular. But like feet can be a sort of gross part of the body because they can't be Peter discussed. Yes. Yes. So it's nice to have them taken care of the little rub down. You get the little foot massage little capping talking once every four to six months. Yeah. It's nothing. Crazy do clip a moment. Yeah. So that was I did leave the house for that. And that's it. Good for you. Grow up the rest of the weekend. I'm really glad that you were just secure enough to be able to get that. And then also be able to talk about it because you know, what everyone should be at that point. If you've not gotten a pedicure, you need to go out and get right? So I don't know who's gotten one and dislikes it. I wanna say this right now, tell me if you're on board with this. If you are a dude, and maybe not even if you're anybody if you listen this podcast, and you've gone out and getting a pedicure. After listening to this show tweet at us with a photo of you getting the pedicure, maybe we can give me and give out some T shirts. Yes. And how about this? It can't be an old photo. So it's gotta you gotta do those random. Yes. Hold a newspaper next to the floor. So you can see that you got it right after listening. Yes. Let's do that. Maybe we'll put all know. Now, we'll pick three or four of them. Use the hashtag behind the bets tag at dougy SPN. Doug ESPN? Yep. And then we go, and you don't have to go the full ransom. You don't need to send a letter with cut letters magazine. Just just now that proves maybe TV in the background with a certain game on. Yeah. I'm full zodiac, just like half. All right. That's good. Yeah. We'll give t shirts I'm going to pull a little Bucci overtime challenge. I believe he pays for all the postage. So I will foot the Bill for the postage on these shirts. I still need to send Murray is shirts. I've been very delinquent. I'm gonna get on that. So speaking of Murray John Murray coming up he'll talk about some action from behind the counter both recapping this week sixteen elite eight also looking ahead to the final four and he's going to be joining us from San Diego. So pre sheet his efforts and humans coming up in a little bit momentarily to break down this weekend's games because he's been on this Texas Tech team is loyal listeners of the podcast, certainly know and really intriguing games coming up. So there's your pedicure lesson, and there's your homework if you wanna t shirt, and I will respond to the winners in the first couple or anyone this weekend. Yeah. We'll take however, many we get put him into a bowl drama out of a hat will pick three or four rain and people that are doing, you know. Yeah, if. Like three or you the do this. I'll send all three tan. I'm not gonna. Yeah. So go get go. Get your Pettis. It's it's about maintaining health. That's right. And we need proof of life of life this weekend. All right. Let's get to it. You're selling the world's rarest commodity certainty in an uncertain world. Now, go to Las Vegas and bring in Matt humans Vegas, stats and information network visa sin. Catch all his shows and content online as well. Matt. How are you doing great, man? It's I think it's gonna outstanding tournament to this point and not the final four weeks, Doug. But I still think it's going to be a good one. No wasn't. I it was Texas Tech involved. And that's a team you've been on for several months. We've talked about it. I believe a forty two one ticket. Are you a forty two one and actually kinda screwed that up to be honest because I was telling people in November. They take Texas Tech, you know, two hundred to one whatever, that's that's probably a bad, it's worthwhile. And you know, it's one of those do as I say not as I do things because I was going to bet it, and then I never got around to it. And then when I finally did I got like forty to one I think one point January, I should've had two hundred one. But I'll admit to that mistake. That's there that happens. There's a lot of times we've all been there. I will revisit a text. You sent me over the weekend. You basically said you fell dirty for cashing a Virginia money line ticket. I think anybody casts return ticket met game probably sell a little bit thirty about it. I mean, if you lay the four and a half with the Cavs and cast Nick Bogdanovich, William Hill sports book said this morning, he was obviously exaggerating a little bit. But he said that was a trillion the one shot for Virginia to cover that four and a half that you think about all the things I had the fall into place happened Ginny to cover the number. I felt lucky is held just to cast the money line. Take it on Virginia kidding me. But hey, man, I've been really unlucky on some games too. So you don't apologize. Just go to the window and cast one thing that does bother me a little bit is when the people who had two points with Virginia priding about Twitter, you know, after the just shut up and cash for tickets. You know, something like that. You're not a genius you got lucky just shut up and cash and move on. Well, tell you what I may. Or may not have had a middle their minus four and a half and plus six. Last night. I had the middle at the warriors game as well. I second half minus sixteen drank it's toss curry it's foul trouble. I grabbed the twenty and it should have been a dribble out for both teams. I it's just nonsense like the camera cut away, the inbounded two seconds Ahah Thomas sticks three and I blow my middle. So this roller coaster that we've we've chosen as rollercoaster path. We've chosen is just nonsense on a nightly basis. So you're right. I'm gonna run to the window and cash Virginia minus four and a half before before they do anything fishy. Yeah. You don't have to college is for said this during the first week of tournament. If you do this stuff every day, like we do if you bet these games, and you have a significant money almost these games, and you sweat them out day after day, you have to be a little bit sick twisted as a person to be able to do this day after day week after week year after year put a. And you get numb to the beets. Sometimes I don't think you ever get totally numb to it. And like I said with Virginia last week. I knew I was lucky extremely lucky to cast up at, but you know, really unlucky some during the basketball seasons. Well, just like you talked about last night the three at the buzzer that stuff happens over time. It's it's crazy. And and it's why I don't have many hijinks in the final four this weekend going. It's why for middle's a lot of time. I mean, obviously that was an educated hedge because of the Durant getting adjusted only few minutes into the third quarter and the curry foul trouble without the safety net of having Durant there, and he had to leave the floor. But I prefer that a lot just because I'd rather get twenty two one on this nonsense at the end and lose minus ten but sometimes you give away winning positions as well. So anyway, so three games left in the big dance. But we also got and then IT game. We. Get to in a little bit. So let's let's just keep running with the final four where where are you going with this? I I I'm leaning to the under in the Auburn Virginia game as my best bet. Just because of the contrast in styles. I don't think the Tigers are going to be able to run up and down. But what say you? I'm with you under- on both games this weekend. And my best bets Texas Tech I play plus three, and that's probably not gonna shock you. I don't think, you know, follow up your chair when I say that. But I I've been on tech long time, and I continued right that team through this tournament. I'm not going to jump off. Now. I mean, the the foundation for my belief in Texas Tech. It's crispy heared is a week basketball coach. And I think a lot of people are just starting to realize that you could see it last year really in this tournament team is so sound and just so good defensively. It's a joke. Buffalo's got really explosive off it cal-. Buffalo to seasonal fifty eight points John beeline in Michigan hell to seasonal forty four points in the next game Inzaghi held the sixty nine and that's a really talented Gonzaga team. And it was a pretty good defensive job. I Texas Tech as well. Take out buffalo Michigan. Gonzaga is no fluke. And you know, if you think about Michigan state in three wins over Michigan sparks have become from behind in second half all three times. I don't think Michigan state is that much better the Michigan and Texas Tech took apart Michigan and embarrassed that team. I do think it's a really well rounded team because obviously a lot of tensions are gonna be on Jerry Cobra. He's probably a top ten picks up more guard everything over twenty game in this tournament. He he'd shop five for nineteen against zag and tech still on the way to win that game even with its best player shooting so poorly 'cause you have Moretti in Mooney or who guys who can sheets three at around forty percent. Or better. You got only ICS Owens who are really starting rebounders interior defenders shot swatters, six eight six ten and he got depth on this team as well. One thing that Texas Tech does that block off the lane. In cast Winston this type of point guard. You have to have if you're going to be able to be to Texas Tech. You really experience point guard who can find creases in the defense. I'm not even sure cash Winston. It's going to be all that affective against Texas Tech what they do block off the lane, basically enforce you to take contested threes. Michigan state side, great three point shooting team. So I think this matchup is a pretty good one. That's I don't expect tack to take part Michigan state like Michigan. But I really feel like that my numbers made this Michigan state minus one I took the three with tech right away. And I actually expect win. The game is crispier is that good in this team has really matured and getting much better in the second half of the season. Even if you were call early in the season Doug tech at the garden in New York went toe-to-toe with Duke. And if you watch that game now, you're like, wow, crispier got something. Because he lost three starters from thirty one team. The went to the elite eight one other thing I'll say about beard. I think Bob Knight is probably the smartest ask low coach whoever with if he's not number one. He's very close to it. And beard was longtime assistant for Bob Knight. You learned a lot obviously him. And also, I think beard learned a lot from doing against Villanova powerhouse team last year and the date, and you know, a lot of times when you get this a final four for the first time they had to pay your dues and take a loss. I think beards ready. I think he's got ready to win this game against Michigan state. Maybe not win the national championship. Maybe they win Saturday. And then lose to, you know, Virginia on Monday night that that would be really interesting matchup as well. But I I don't think Michigan state deserved the three point favorite here. So I took the three. When I think it will my one thing about the under there is I think is a smart enough not to get in a half court set because they you're right. They helped so well, and if you hold the ball around Texas Tech, they're gonna take it from you. This is what they do. I don't Phalle they they literally just take the ball away from you. So I think the ball has to be continually moving, and I think they're just going to push it with Winston and try to transition points as much as they can not a lot. But I think they're gonna push it as much as they can. And then move the ball is. I don't think they're going to be dumb enough to get into a half court game with tech. Why don't think you can help? But really, I mean, it's not like Michigan state. A lot of times defense the better defensive team, which is a great defensive team in this case prior the best one in college basketball is much easier for that side that they take the tempo than it is Michigan state. You know in the is they're not exactly run and gun like Auburn. So I do think it's going to be a situation where Michigan state's gonna have score in a bunch of half court sets. They're not gonna be able to get out and run, you know, I will say this too. It's not easy just about against Michigan state and say I'll take a three here doubt about Spartans are fourteen one in the past fifteen games of the one point loss. Indiana a day when I just kind of felt like they ran out of gas at the end of that game. If you think back, you know, middle of the season when Josh Wayne for was ruled out say he's not gonna come back to the rest of the year out of people. Well, that's it, you know, especially in state team can't win it all without Langford. Well, commas mass win four. Eighteen the past fifteen with a one point law. So it's not easy to make this better get state. But I do think there's some value in Texas that cost Serie as much as as knows he can't get caught up in a half court game against Texas Tech. I don't think you give a void for the most part. No, you're right in the taxi sent me last week was Texas Tech is a bad ass team. And they really are. And you just touched on early maturity, I really think they're just they have all the pieces, and they all, you know, Seth Greenberg said is about Purdue. And I thought it was a very spot on comment as much as we've criticized Purdue they know who they are the players know their roles, they don't try to do too much Carson Edwards, obviously as the green light. Maybe shoots too much though, we got hot this turn it. But you don't have guys who are trying to be something. They're not. And I think Texas Tech has like that as well. They know their lane, they know their ceiling in their floor in all the players play to it. And it's a Representative good coaching. In the last part key. That's that's a result of crispier and some hard coaching. Right. I mean, those are the the best teams are the ones that are the most disciplined, and when the players know their roles and stay within those roles. I mean, if if you watch Texas Tech, you say, wow, this team is really well coached. I don't think you say think the same thing when you watch team like North Carolina right exam. You tech. This can can freaking coach. And that's why I felt that way about crispier for the past couple of years. I actually like going into the season. I said man this team's gonna be really good. It's seven in the big twelve preseason poll. But I had tech rated as the second best team in the big twelve coming into the season. And obviously two hundred one nobody, you know, not too many people thought highly of this team. But a lot of big car, my handicapping college hoops is with coach the best coaches. Find ways to get it done. Look at great martial, Wichita. State that team a wreck you about halfway through the season. Marshall got Wichita state to play great basketball in the second half and get to the final four shockers got beat us have to believe in the best coaches of find a way to get it done and crispier d-. I'll wait him right now is the top five coach in college basketball, who would be your there for 'cause I know coach K isn't. No, he is not in there in a few watch. Dukes black off its sets the Michigan state game last week. You wonder if it's much coaching you student at all I think those two coaches on tobacco road or stream Lee overrated turned to coach K in a ROY ROY Williams a much better guy than he is a basketball coach of met him before when I covered college hoops over the years. He's a great guy. But beside the point John beeline is the top five coach at Michigan. No question about it. He lines top-five crispier d-. I think Mark few his idea. I'm gonna go unless you're from Gregg Marshall in the top five or not a couple minutes around that my top five, but I can tell you for fact that beeline beard. Mark viewer in that top five and Greg marshals guy. I think really really highly of. Let's go to the other final four game with Auburn in Virginia. You know, it feels like Auburn is the square dog here in Virginia we've seen it. So many times team gets let's call it lucky for lack of a better term to win. And then they they roll from their maybe Auburn got lucky in their New Mexico state game in the opener in Virginia Virginia kind of squeak by a couple of times, I'm waiting for them to break out and just clamp down on D. By the way, I should have just ignored the obvious right there to guys who got to be in your top five or Tony Bennett and Tom Izzo, right while I was thinking is for sure that was that was my tip of my tongue. So let me talk about top five or top ten all those names in there. Yeah. A lot of times you gotta get lucky doing look at Duke got lucky back back games. Especially in the central Florida game. Probably I'll play Virginia Tech deserve the win that game. But you know, the first one against Mexico state Auburn survive, then the teams kinda hit a role. He talked about pace of play who's Pearl once he's guys really get out and run Jared. Harper sets that fast paced Auburn is top ten in justed offense efficiency, actually, Kim palm Auburn, I think is very similar offensively to produce. And the only difference is are you gonna have each year at Harper Bryce Brown Maktum ten three pointers Carson Edwards. That's so sure. It's that that was a by the way, one of the most nominal shooting performances. I've seen college player. He definitely are going back to Stephan. Curry beams like that. I went back and watch the like a highlight clips of Carson Edwards three point barrage on I think it was a March madness Twitter account the NC double apron out. He hit Tim three's net game. A lot of those were from twenty five to thirty feet. Eight of the ten threes had nothing but net one barely breast Aram. And when he banked in. I mean, that's just an incredible shooting performance up in the distance. He did man, you know. That's if that's what you need to be this Virginia defense. Good luck. But Bryce Harper excuse me, Jared Harper and Bryce Brown type of guys who can get hop three. They can cause problems against Virginia credible one. If you think about to go through Kansas Carolina and Kentucky to get to this point who Virginia. Thirty three and three for a reason they do defense, very similar crispier does text tack that they're going to block off the paint. We gonna force you to take intestine threes. It's not gonna be like auburn's wide open shooting grow against North Carolina. Where a lot of times it wasn't a Fender within ten feet of the shooter. Right. I was going to be much different type of game. My concern. Here was lane points with the Cavs. There's always, you know, they're a. Type of team a lot of margin prayer offense. We obviously Kyle guys started this tournament three for twenty nine three four starts back. Some down in the second half Purdue against pretty this really the reason this team is still alive. He had five or twelve three making the Jinya that shop three well in this tournament and nine for twenty seven last game against Purdue. And basically thirty three percent or worse in all three games. And beyond dre hunters gotta wake up he did not play well last time out, but it's defense that's going to dictate this game Virginia, so Gardner Webb Oklahoma, Gonzaga, excuse me, Oregon to fifty six fifty one forty nine points in the first three games offense, rebounding was and everything to really help Virginia lobby against seventeen offense rebounds, only five turnovers, but. I think the absence of Huma, oh KiKi is going to be something that hurts a little bit in this match up. And I liked Virginia to win. I just don't feel comfortable in the points. Kind of the same way. I've thought in the Purdue game I've beverage on the money line. I was lucky to win that I just didn't feel comfortable way in the points with that team. And I don't I don't feel comfortable weighing the points. Here is just not playing well enough offensively at this point. And that's why you were talking about the unders in which game. Did you like better? It'd be under the Virginia game. Yeah. Okay. You know, also talked about a lot this week. And it's no secret. But you know, you put these teams in football stadium with odds shooting backgrounds, and then you pile that with all the pressure of in these games. I I definitely think that leads to look under the total or over. Plus, you got three really good defensive teams in this. Final four. In auburn's actually got better defensively here in the past couple of weeks. I I've seen you know, you would would've joked about Auburn St. fence maybe a month ago, but if you watch SEC tournament NCWA turn of auburn's play much better ball defense specially from guards. So I, you know, I do think you're gonna have more defensive oriented the lower scoring games here. I like tech costs three L say Virginia in the other game. But I just dug a mechanism the points. And that's why also you have to consider wagering options when you do. Well, because of it's too hot start, you might be able to give Virginia at a very cheap money lead price just way, you know, appoint point and a half or some point that they're they're always options if you're gonna love with that before the game tips off, just wait us live wagering. And you might be able to put yourself in a better position to exactly it's something. I've always said, I always look at the closing line is the first time out, right? I it's right. It's or even if you really wanna factor in the entire week. There's multiple timeout. So. Yeah. You never have to go into it. Now, there's money line parlays there's other things. But if you like the if you like the line grab it, but it it's not necessarily always gonna be the best line. He might get a chance that you also get to get more data points. You get to see the teams how they look, but things can also change a lot of based on how they look like, you know, Michigan state was up double digits in the in the first half. And then do close strong real quick. We gotta run because recording time, but I know you have an IT final play with Lipscomb in Texas longhorns lane one and half. Yeah. Haven't bet this ship. I think I will I'm going to ship up to to pop up before game time tomorrow, but this Texas teams really over cheap and obviously important favor- favorable draw. The NIT gets all their home games. We went to New York and barely got by savior though game. And what what much better here in the postseasons knocked on the three. They were not a good three point shooting team. And. Suddenly here in the NFC started back on the three ball. And that's uncharacteristic. If you watch his Texas team all season also Jackson as is out six eleven freshman. Probably going to be a lottery pick to Texas one these games without Jackson. Hayes Lipscomb in such better. Offense team, Texas definitely much better team troops better team. More ways to score Garissa Matthews view, check game last night. Great. Great job closing. Yeah. By Lisk gets Wichita state. I lean whip skim here plus one and a half, but might try grab too. But I think Texas it's outside shooting has been a little bit of fool's gold. So far in this tournament. But I wouldn't say it's a strongest play have this week. I am looking at Lipscomb and IT final. We'll look forward to catching up as well. The rest of the week on daily wager. Appreciated the inside we've had a nice run in the tournament. Let's close strong women you bet. But so if you're looking for. The reason to work with local gyco agent. 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It's nice to know where this podcast ranks in the pecking order, Mr. director John Murray, taking a step away from the activities in San Diego to continue his devotion to our listeners in the pod. We appreciate a man. Thanks for having me on. I always I would always make time for ESPN podcast. It's all the others that I throw to the side. Yes. Where what what's going on in San Diego? Wherever the national Indian gaming association convention on here with the suitable US eighteen talking of some perspective partners and software providers. We got a booth got up here and yesterday we were sitting in on a few gaming panels, and our vice president Jacor negates spoke on a few of those panels and yesterday, Jane, I snuck away to go Padres diamond that game. It was a really important for sure that this trip so far so good. It's pretty good time. Rough rough existence April in sago. That's that's yeah. They. They rented us a house in mission beach right on the ocean. It's it's pretty it's a pretty good setup here. I wanna. Yeah. J J show me the convention calendars, like which ones which ones do you wanna go to like I can sit in that. Sandy, I go to that one. You'll make time I saw some of the pictures tweet it out so well done well done. All right, man. Well, citing elite eight to say, the least really, and you don't wanna be prisoner of the moment. But I can't remember better games for the elite eight now, maybe that's just my fuzzy memory. And I'm only remember, but it was just fantastic. What was the environment like in the sports book? Specifically when Virginia tied it with that nonsense wacky sequence of events. You know before Virginia made that time shot, I know everyone's going to remember that. But Purdue it actually taking the lead on very fortunate three pointer the Carson Edwards banked in from the wing. I don't know if you remember that. That's right. There was a lot of like back. I mean, I think Carson Edwards at ten three pointers in that game. I mean, he was just throwing it in their from everywhere. He was like Steph curry out there, obviously Virginia was incredibly fortunate to tie that game force overtime. I think the weekend all four games really show, you how fine the line is between these teams. I mean, Texas Tech out of solid win over dagga. But the other three games all could have easily gone either way, particularly the Virginia game and the Kentucky Auburn games. Well on Sunday that game easily could have gone either way as well. Yeah. And then Michigan state goings coming out of time out. I mean do Quinn up three. I think the minute to go and remorse, they hit along three going out of a time out and the. Three to go up. It just it was just awesome. And you're so right. When you when you think about these Duke verse the field, bats, or whatever it may be depending on the year. You have really just gotta go with the field. I mean that we've been talking about I know few of us on a on a roundtable on dot com for Chuck page had to answer that question we all took the field. But as beatable as Duke looked because been Ables Duke looked in the opener against Kentucky. These teams all come around. And John Kerry told our Reese Davis the night the brackets came out said about that game. We don't even focus on defense at all in the preseason. So these coaches evolve in anything can happen on any given days. We know in March madness, I think Duke got a little bit overrated off that Kentucky win you just mentioned. And then when they when they won in Charlottesville against UBA. They were kind of let's say they shot over their heads in that game because they were throwing in every three pointer in that game. And we all know that overall for the season Duke, really not a very good outside shooting team. So it's kind of a flukey performance in Charlottesville, Duke was very good. But they weren't they weren't an all time great should've been honestly, I just don't think they improved from the opener to the. No, I agree with you. And you know, I think a lot of that. I got a point the finger at coach K. And I know we talked about this on the show last week only get the two final four since two thousand four with the amount of talent that he said go through dawn having a one pretty much every year. So I think it's pretty disappointing. Really soon. How did the books do all things considered given the craziness of the weekend? I I can't remember off the top of my head. What the favorites and dogs did? But how did the the books did do, you know, we had a we had a great second weekend. It was much better than the second weekend. We had in two thousand eighteen the dogs winning outright was really big for us. I mean, really the only complaint that I have in the weekend is that we lost. Some of the teams that we were in a great position in the future book, specifically Kentucky, and we actually worked are Duke and Gonzaga numbers to where we were in pretty good shape on them. So right now really the only team we have a really good win number on his Virginia. And then the other complaint would be that, you know, when you lose do and Kentucky, North Carolina. It's going to cost some handle numbers on the back end. 'cause you know, while I love Texas Tech and Michigan state, and I think they're great teams Virginia as well. Those things don't move meal as much as some of those blue blood programs. So that's an interesting point because I saw certainly all the tweets and commentary about how CBS dreading these match ups, and I know the books and the handle is very correlated TV ratings. But even given the magnitude of the final four like you don't think people are just going to be betting it, regardless. Oh, no. I definitely did. They will my first complaint was more to the future book side of things. Like we lost some teams that we were really gonna do. Awesome on like, specifically, the Kentucky was probably the team we receptive in the most money on. And then Auburn is one of the teams that we actually lose on in the pool. So we can talk winning that game would have been better for us. You know Aldrin became very trendy pick to win. Their region and in the future books here at the Super Bowl, they should say. So Auburn getting far as they did work in a great outcome for us. Yeah. Three point variants such a big part of that narrative had how let's look ahead. So any sharp money for this weekend? Not really I wouldn't say anything sharp. And there was definitely some money that came in on Texas Tech and plus three went to plus two and a half. Everybody's on Auburn Auburn very trendy play here. They're getting about seventy percent of the tickets of the super book, we've been going back and forth between five and a half and five there, but everyone is at the public or. Yeah. Look, I mean, these are guys that are like our top sharp college basketball betters at all the public is very much on Auburn in this game. You know, I had a feeling that might become the square dog. This is such an interesting match of and either do a write up for dot com. Terms of my picks for the weekend. I only came up with one I really really like and that's the under in this game. And I'll just kind of lean on what I submitted is my right up basically Auburn ranks third in the entire country was steals per game nine point four and sixth in turnovers forced at seventeen and a half. So that's what they like. That's their. That's what makes their engine go. Right. But Virginia is second in the nation in terms of fewest turnovers per game at nine point one. So how does Auburn run if they're not getting it off turnovers, and they're such a methodical half court set is Virginia's not getting into up and down track. Meet with Tigers. Like, this is I like thirty one a lot. I think that's Auburn ultimately beat Kentucky. They force them into that kind of. Running gun style that suits Auburn style. So well, I don't think they'll be able to do the same thing for Ginny. I think Virginia's too well coached and Virginia gets them into a half court back and forth type of game. I think that's very much favors Virginia Cavaliers, I mean, the fact is Virginia won that game on Saturday despite Carson was making ten three pointers like we talked about. I think that says a lot about good the Cavaliers are because I don't think that produce it ever shoot. Like that again rematch in Virginia's do for their best game. Aren't they? I thought it was coming up against Purdue. And maybe they did play their best. 'cause they withstood the Carson Edwards three point shooting and everything else that produce it so effectively well in that game. But either feeling this could be Virginia by twelve auburn's taken out of its rhythm and just can't ever get off off the ground. That's exactly what I thought was going to happen when Virginia played Oregon, but you just said, and it just it didn't happen that way. And really Virginia was kinda fortunate to win that game. But I mean, yeah, I agree with you. Eventually, you gotta think Virginia's gonna have a game where their opponent isn't knocking down every three point shot, and they are knocking down some of their open books from three maybe it'll be on Saturday. Certainly looks like a book at the Super Bowl is west gate is gonna need that to happen genes. Our best outcome in the future pool right now and the money on Saturdays pretty much all on Auburn. So certainly we're gonna want Virginia pretty big in that early game Saturday, and that's the team you said you thought was the best in the country going into the big dance. I did I thought that all along like I thought they lost that game to Duke because of just fluky barrage agree pointers from there show. It's bill. But again, it's such a fine line. I mean Virginia could easily have been knocked out of the tournament on Saturday by Purdue obvious that shot was a miracle. Basically the force over time. So when you get into who's the best team, no one is really like separated from the pack. There's Golden State Warriors type situation here, and it's a one. Off scenario. That's the main thing you gotta remember anything can happen one game scenarios. I mean, I know a lot of people that think zag is the best team in the country. And they certainly didn't look like it on Saturday against Texas stuck even Auburn first round. I mean, they blew that lead into Mexico state. And yeah, the aggies I've ever heard win that game was very fortunate to win that game. Really? I mean, the guy I think the guy missed what are two out of the three free throws when he got solider at the end of regulation. So armee was very fortunate to win that game. But then they went out and they crushed Kansas ran North Carolina and back to back games. So it's just it's hard on any given day. Anything can happen in this segment. That's part of what makes it so fun. But also why it's kind of silly to speculate on who the best team is or even sillier to think that whoever wins this tournament is automatically the best team. I don't I don't think that's the case every year. What about the other game? Any? So sounds like you're the book isn't positioning itself at all to Nita side. So far, the the money's coming in on sexist tech. We have a better. I mean, really what we're going to be looking at their lot of our future position on those teams. And right now a little bit better for us on on Michigan state. There's some pretty big tickets out there on Texas Tech. It's pretty high on. So I'd say right now we'd be better off with with Michigan state getting out of that second semifinal. The opinion out of you. You know, I never I never wanna go against Chris beard. I think crispier is such a great coach. I think I mentioned on the show last week. I was tempted to take the plus two on Texas Tech against Michigan. And it just scared me to John beeline is also such a great coach. But I kind of feel the same way about this game. I think big coaching edge, Texas Tech. I think they're much better defensive team. But Michigan state is really playing really good basketball right now. So I I would mean the Texas pack, but I'm not imploring everybody to run out there and bet it. You know, it's they're really testing that. No one has ever won the tournament since the expansion by team that lost its first game in the conference tournament. So if you got a double by or whatever in the they lost a West Virginia, your West Virginia mountaineers and no team has ever won at all. And I don't know if that's really really them. Yeah. I don't know if it's really random like that par-three on Wednesdays before the masters, but yeah, maybe there's somebody said about opener like something's not clicking late in the season knows aren't you almost better off losing early in the conference. I to me that seems better than playing four conference tournament games on back tobacco back-back days before the wheel ornament starts. I mean, I if you're seating is said and your team is said, I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to go early in the conference tournament and get rested for the real tournaments. Yeah. I I guess it's it's losing early versus I first game. But I just look I how did this team lose to West Virginia believed? Weiss right. Yeah. Wh-what's Jinya was really playing much better basketball at the end of the season. I think they also beat Oklahoma in the first round of that tournament before they played sexes tax. And then they lost the cans in the semi finals. But but certainly they had no business beating Texas Tech on a neutral floor. I'm just saying nears. Nears? They had kind of righted the ship at the end of the season there in my apologies. Quickly fixation. They only lost once to the mountaineers some fun profits. You guys are offering. I'm just perusing them. I mean, look like, I don't personally know enough to like see huge value to beat a twenty cents straddle any any interesting props jump out to you. I mean, I was part of the team that made all these numbers earlier in the week. So it's hard for me to say that I think any of them are good pets. But. You know, we'll get a we've got a fair bit action on all of them. I mean, I know that like I keep getting asked about our handle on the the first team to score ten fifteen to score twenty Trump. And frankly, you really don't have that much betting on it. I think maybe that's more of a tourist that. And that's why it was so popular on the strip the first couple of rounds. That that's not really something that I see a lot of money on. I mean, we will sometimes see sharper people shopper groups take over the largest lead and some of these games. So maybe you think over fourteen and a half to be a good bet. Any Auburn Virginia game just because like Auburn is capable of these long scoring runs and conversely Virginia is capable of throttling down defensively and keeping the other team from scoring which could be them blowing open a big lead. But I know it's hard for me to really say. Oh, I like this one when I was like I said part of the team that settled these numbers. So you're telling me there's a chance I would think the NBA was probably better suited for that. This the volatility, but that's just off the top of my head. But to your point Michigan stately Duke by double digits for staff. Yeah. I mean, and usually the public likes about the under in the largest lead on I'm not just talking about it in this segment talking about in general, the public they love to do that enough football, especially so. Usually the over is where we see the sharper players that. But you know, nothing nothing happens every time, obviously, the public will probably get involved on some of the player props over. But there's nobody left in tournament like Zion Williamson and RJ Barrett. I mean, frankly, a lot of these guys are players that attachable probably haven't even heard of with the exception of guys like Jerry, Culver caches Winston. But I I don't know that there's a lot of big star power in this final four EMS. Sure. Take it. You're gonna write on Tariq owns his point total over under eight and a half. No. I don't think. So. Yeah. Probably not or some of these guys. Most people probably barely even heard of. I don't I don't know too much action there like I said the results over the weekend really good for us. But they didn't put us in his great of future book condition as we could have been, and I don't think the match ups quite as sexy as certainly CVS was hoping. For even what we were hoping for, you know, Duke, Gonzaga, semi final game would have been massive. All right. My man will get stuff is always appreciate you making time for us on this work trip. And really you're just doing the heavy lifting out there and CEO catching Padres games and staying Long Beach. I did I send up picture of the beach yesterday morning to our team back in Las Vegas. And I just asked them all to think me for doing all the hard work for the Super Bowl USA seem and give all the praise to me for the sacrifices that I make. Well, we all appreciate it. We all appreciate a man. Safe travels. And and enjoy the games, there's only three left. It's a sad time in the NBA final week to go in the regular season. So it's kind of sad for me like the regular season. You know, what we still got the NBA playoffs the NHL playoffs, and I can complain about the nationals for another five months. So they're still plenty going on in the sports world. Yeah. Bryce Harper going yard last night. Yeah. While we were recording this. My brother sent me a very strongly worded taxed I can't repeat it on the air, of course. But the kid is already fired up. I think I'm going to check them back. It'd be like, dude. It's April third just lack. Yes. Yes. It is. All right, dude. Thanks so much. And we'll catch you back next week. All right, man. Fuck you let kicking is for losers. Thanks to John marine. Also met Uman's here on the podcast. Bevery? One's got a busy schedule this time of year. Obviously Marie on the road. But Matt equally as busy with everything going on with these sense. Appreciate their time and dot appreciate your time as well. I know you're a celebrity and star. So your efforts are much. Appreciate it. Yeah. Sure. When I get my own TV show. I'll let you know. But you know, what is different celebrity status. Right. I'm internet famous. Okay. Fantasy internet fame is that. What it? Yeah. That's what it is. You gotta you gotta play in these games this weekend. You gotta eat leans. I'm lean in Michigan state because that's what my brackets got. Okay. So good for you. My brackets busted, no surprise. Yeah. It is what it is any confessions of a non gambler throughout the show. No. The only confession that I have is. I really like, I just like Matt's voice. Is that what you're it's funny. Ed Marlet who does a great job producing waitress. He does he loves humans to in. What his reasoning is. Maybe this is the reason for you. And you just can't put your finger on it. Just the old school handicapping. Yeah. Yeah. Just the throwback while the numbers guys are great and everyone has their lane match us got an old school protein. Very instinctual. Obviously knows college hoops exceptionally. Well, but there's there's a lot of. I'm trying to think of the word. There's it's comforting his knowledge when you hear like youth become smarter listening to him. Absolutely. As point of the show us wanna get smarter. Royal listening and also big shout out for the Lipscomb. And I teach our our buddy here Keith Lipscomb who works in the fantasy department big lips companion. So we're rooting for them to win the turning a distant relative find the university or anything he was founder. He was not a founder was not related to however because they share a name he is a big fan. He's actually gone do a couple of practices with them. Really? Yeah. So also on that note in terms of the athlete prowess of Keith Lipscomb exceptional softball player. Oh, yeah. Like ringer. Really good. He's older to really. Yeah. He's he's more than what he what he looks on. Basically, basically key. Let's come is. The was sister, gene. Is that who it was? Yes. Yes. Oh, so he's the sister Jeanne of Lipscomb university. That's that's what keep it. He's like thirty five. I know. So we had a very competitive softball league. I don't play anymore, but like the anchor team had a few ringers Keith not an anchor. But yeah. Like, literally bad second never made an out any runs the outfield like a greyhound. Oh, yeah. He does and long stride while he was just awesome. Just like I was looking at your so much better at the sport that I. We all we also another ringer, Justin Kilger. I don't think I know a lot of what of travelling and stuff he he played college college baseball. So. I remain until next week. So confessions of a non gambler, so everything was clean and easy. And we'll get you back here guys next week. So enjoy the final four hopefully enjoying daily wager. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Pat Forde (03-29-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - Pat Forde (03-29-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week long look knowledge truth brought to you by Geico. Truth. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to your supervisor. What's Janet fangs? Did she lose up that without weed whacker? Sent wait. No, no, no, no, no truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. Janet, I think my phone was hacked or something. Gogo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more broadcasting from the Mercedes man cave. This is Dan Patrick. Yes. We made it to a Friday to trigger meet Friday. The traeger grill is fired up. So are we got you could join us, Dan the Dan Patrick show available on audience channel, two thirty nine direct TV. And of course, our new TV partners be our live. You can watch for free stream for free on our live dot com. Live sports on be our live as well. Way are down to our final four. 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That's an opening day record the dodgers hit eight of the forty eight. And it's probably the kind of season. I think we're in store for home runs. Keep going up for several reasons teams build around the long ball. The ballparks are getting small. Pitcher's throwing harder. Which means when it comes off the bat it's coming off harder. And of course baseball when you have home runs. There's always a little bit of skepticism. But there's should be some skepticism because we were fooled once before back in the late nineties. The question is is it good for baseball on the surface? It seems like it's if I say forty eight home runs on opening day. Okay. But you wait around for those home runs because there's very little movement in baseball. Everybody loves the long ball chicks. Dig the long ball. It's not the game. I grew up on. But that doesn't mean I can't adapt. I can't change. I just like to see a little more movement with this. And that means get into the batter's box. Hurry up, and, you know, throw the ball to the plate like just move people along a little bit because we've allowed you to milk it and imagine this. If you get up to the plate four times, you're on TV four times, you would milk your TV appearance as much as you can. And that's what a lot. Of these hitters do and I get in. I get out. I gotta just I gotta just after every swing even if I don't swing every pitch. Now, the pitchers on the mound. He's got airtime as well. And if you think of it that way, it's a TV show. But okay, you got your your shot. Now. Let's move on speed it up a little bit here. So you're going to have home runs. You're going to have strikeouts and get used to it because that's what the norm is the new norm in baseball twenty nineteen. Mclovin poll question for me. Yes. Let's start with home runs. Are there too? Many. Or is this awesome? How would people vote? I know how you feel. I'm gonna guess at the audience probably feels it's pretty cool that you have all these home runs. I just like to have a little bit more in their little bit more substance than just feast or famine like Hammond strike out or going to hit a home run. You know, I'm watching the Mets play the nationalist. Because I love me some degrom insurer. And degrom was great. Sherzer was great lot of strikeouts. Both guys had double digit strikeouts and Robinson can hits a home run. Don't you know? And that was it. So that that's feast or famine strikeouts. Great pitchers and somebody tags you for a home run. And that's the difference to nothing final there. And watching the dodgers I got to watch a lot of the dodgers yesterday. And it was inner -taining because it was eight home runs. And then we started to think what's the record for opening day home runs as a league. And then as a team, and here's the dodgers with eight in the entire league with forty eight. So I I'm gonna guess that they're going to say, yeah. Pretty cool. What else do you have? Okay. Would you rather be an NCAA tournament superstar like purdue's Ryan Kline? Now, I'm assuming that he does not necessarily have a big NBA future or a tenth man on an NBA team who never did anything in the tournament. Which would you rather be the old Ali for roof? Menashe question versus I'm looking for a medium player here. I guess Allen crab is too. Good. Would you rather be? Al Horford Horford at all star. I've tried it. Okay. Tenth man, gentlemen. But you take Horford Horford had a good tournament run to he wanted title. But how about under Yuga dolla? Now. He's too good. You gotta take a dollar over alley for route panache, right? Yes. Of course, who's a bad player. Robin lopez. Well, that's okay. His brother. He's the one who doesn't get a lot of playing time. Wayne Selden Wayne Solden from Kansas, although he had a decent tournament. I think it might have had a really bad game where he didn't make shot or something. I I was demar to Rosen who did nothing in. He's some things in the NBA. But how much value is there in that kind of RAI is Ryan client be a name. We think of I think you'll always remember this you're going to remember these names he had his moment against Tennessee. And you know, we've had these names down through history where at tournament time, we say their names, right? We don't say at any other time. But tournament time, you'll say do you remember oh, Bryce drew that shoddy hit? Oh. Thai Edney UCLA. Yes. Finished Dembo there. There's like a handful of names that you always bring up tournament time. They have a little bit of sports in mortality because for a couple of weeks every year, they'll get their clip up there until someone bumps them off the list like a leaf for Oprah Nash played four years of professional basketball overseas. Probably make a couple of bucks. But he never had a even had a Cup of coffee in the NBA. But Robin Lopez is going gonna have a tenure and be a career, and it will be not on the map of our memories. I'd probably take the Robin Lopez career over Fenice demo or Ryan Klein. Yes, mclovin. Where's this? Carson Edwards kid on proof. It is he a future NBA. Yeah. So he's going to have both. Yeah. He's got great lift on his jumper, man. And of course, there's a controversy last night, you call that foul. It was one of those at that time in the game in that moment DA call it, and he takes this shot and the defender Turner from Tennessee comes out. He doesn't touch him on the shot. But he does get some of his body with his body and produced down to he takes a three. And you know, he gets fouled on the play. I I don't like the call in the moment. But it is the call you have to make because Rick Barnes, the head coach at Tennessee said, it was a foul you can invade somebody space a lot of times. What happens with great shooters is? You'll either touch them in the chest or just tap him. Right in the chest or you'll put your foot underneath them. So they know as they're going up. They can see where you are in you try to put your foot there. So they're thinking about when they're coming down. I can't invade your space. But I can't let Carson Edwards flail is leg out as Reggie Miller used to do to draw contact from you as well. But look that was a fun finish. There were some interesting coaching decisions certainly with Rick Barnes. But Tennessee came back. Then Purdue came back, you go into overtime Kline was unbelievable. But I looked at the play. We've looked at the play many times you can't invade a shooter space there. And there was some contact with his hip. Yes. Mclovin. Do you call that in the first half? I hope you do. It feels like you'd call it. You're more likely to call it in the first half. Then in the final, you know couple of seconds there. Right. Usually. That's when you would swallow your with. Yes. Yeah. But I would hope you would be easier to call that foul in the first half than it was late in the in the game. I tell you though, I don't think they would have Texas Tech pack. Michigan about a thousand times. They let them play all over the court. I don't I don't even he put his hands up any landed to the average fan who doesn't know that rule like me. Yeah. It looks like there's a way that's a foul. You would see if you call that on a pickup game you'd be laughed off the court. Well, yeah. Of course, you would. But this isn't a pickup game. But why is it? So the pick up game as a Baker standard. They don't call three seconds in a pickup game. Mclovin. Oh, I know you rarely get the charge. He does Andrew does. But we don't acknowledge that you got three seconds three seconds. Shut up. Have you ever been in a pickup game or a guy calls a charge at? It's always always a fight. Yes. Yeah. Charts? Like, what are you stepping in for charge? Anyway, Doug, Gottlieb strikes me. Somebody would take charge in a pickup. Yeah. See strikes me. Is that I got it other way. Let's go the other way. Absolutely. By the way. The Dan Patrick show is brought to you by the great folks at legalzoom. They're not a law firm. But that's a good thing. They don't charge you by the hour. Their network of independent attorneys can review contracts help with employment laws lease agreements and more of his legalzoom dot com. Use promo code Patrick, say fifteen percent off the corporations LLC's and more. All right. This is the last meet Friday, we will have in the studio this studio because if you're new to the show or maybe you didn't hear the news. We are moving into a new man cave. There's going to be a little bit of time. Because next week we are going to be switching over and this'll be the last meet Friday that we have in here as we moved to the new place. We're going to go to Minneapolis. We'll be in New York for a few shows. And then when we come back, we will have a new man cave in that'll be in a few weeks. Yes. And they went big on the trigger. There's I I walked in this morning. There's two huge slabs of ribs on no smoking since five AM. Yes. Yeah. Looks good. So meet fight Friday. The traeger meet Friday. It'll be sad to say goodbye to our little space. We we we kind of put a grill out on the steps there. There's a little porch there in the back and probably against fire code. I'm guessing, but we've been we've been using the trigger firing it up every Friday here, and it's been a wonderful relationship already. So we'll settle on a poll question. Mclovin we could do. Well, let's I'm gonna put up there right now was at a foul or not, and we'll put the video with it. Then later on we can ask if people rooting for Duke tonight or rooting against tonight. Okay. Here is coach K. He was talking about his team. And his team is the one to beat from the start to the end. We've kind of been the team. I'm not saying we're the best team. But we're the team that somebody has a lot of people have said they they need to be us. That's a good position. But it's there's a lot going on for that whoever that team is and these kids have handled it really, well, they have. Yeah. They considering you start out the season is the team to beat people wondered if they would lose a game this season and they run into a dangerous Virginia Tech team. So the games coming up tonight. You got LSU and Michigan state Auburn North Carolina. Virginia Tech, Duke and Houston and Kentucky. Houston's really the great unknown and Kentucky may not have their best player available and PJ Washington. Virginia Tech's going to be you know, fully assembled where they weren't before. And they did beat Duke when Duke didn't have I on Williamson auburn's going to put up probably forty three's tonight against North Carolina. That might be the most entertaining game because it well for me who never played defense just running up and down and firing threes. I love it LSU and Michigan state. I don't know what to expect from LSU. I coupled them in with Florida state is really talented and dangerous, but you know, give credit to gun saga last night. I think it was pretty evident from the early going that Gonzaga was the better team. But Florida state. In trouble. Didn't look like they had in previous tournament games and gun. Saga was the better team last night as they move on pretty of course, beating Tennessee in overtime. So those are the games coming up tonight. We'll get to your phone calls. Eight seven seven three DP show Email address DP at Dan Patrick dot com. I mentioned at the tail end of yesterday's show. Pat, forty from y'all who sports had a column on the hypocrisy that we as fans have when it comes to. Oh, you got to pay these players. Now, you're finding a lot of people coming out saying you gotta pay these players. I don't know if they're going to say that when we get rid of the one in done are we going to be shouting for the mountaintop. She got to pay these kids because your star players are going to be getting paid going into the NBA. But Pat, forty had an article saying look at all these teams that are alive in the tournament and most of them have been under a cloud of controversy here. So we'll talk to Pat forty about that his column yesterday. He'll be joining us coming up all already Email. L address GPS, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter handle at DP show. It's fifteen after the hour on this Friday back after this on the Dan Patrick show. The average interest rate on credit card debt is over eighteen percent APR. Have you looked at your interest rate lately? Refinance your high interest credit card balances and save with a credit card consolidation loan. 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We also have our celebrity bracket challenge brought to you by subway, Jim Parsons from the big bang theory. Sheldon is dominating right now. Drew Brees moved up a little bit. I think he's a betting on his pretty boy. Lawmakers to go far Bryan Cranston still hanging tough Wayne Gretzky's in their Dale Earnhardt, jR, I'm in a battle with Michael Douglas, John smoltz's their police there. So it's a it's a interesting race here. But you know, there's not a lot of big changes here. Not a lot of drama. Yes. You ever not look at your bracket for a couple of days. And you forget who you picked. So I'm watching Texas Tech, Texas Tech. Their defense is great. Antastic? And because I soon I had Texas Tech going. Then look I have Nevada in the final in the lead eight terrible. I've done that where I'm rooting for a team. And then I you know, then the team loses that I'm rooting for. And I got what was I doing? I had the other team. So you fill out these brackets so long ago and Mario's doing a great job, he filled out my bracket. So I'm kind of hanging in there. Pretty tough will Ferrell is last will Ferrell did Email me yesterday. And he said that he was going to wear his Jackie moon jersey. I didn't see him on CBS yesterday. During those games he was going to wear the warm jacket. He was taking his kids to the game. And he said that hey, I'm going to wear the Jackie moon. Outfit. And I'm also going to call in next week and all sing the song memories. And that'll be as we say goodbye to the man cave next week. We'll say Hello to Pat forty from. Yahoo sports their national college columnists. He'll join us coming up. He was in Louisville last night for Purdue Tennessee and also. Oregon in Virginia, Oregon Virginia tough watch tough watch waiting for Virginia to shoot like I know they can shoot and they've been surviving with that. Because they're going to have. Well, they better have a game where they hit these threes because they're going to need to. And I watched Michigan last night in Michigan. It has a wonderful coach John beeline. But we always say the same thing when it comes to Michigan. Do they have enough offense? They play great defense. But you have to have some offense. Texas Tech plays great defense, but they have some offense and they have a future NBA star in Culver. I think Michigan's got a if they haven't already come to an understanding realization is college basketball's changed dramatically, and it's not necessarily a team sport there. There are moments for individuals in this sport. And that's what you have to find you have to have a couple of these guys who can create isolation and they can score points because Michigan didn't have enough points in that line. As they move forward. You know, he's probably going to have to surrender a little bit of that control that he has to find some of these Purdue has that Purdue has Carson Edwards, and he's a wonderful score. But if you look at a lot of these teams, they do have that guy. They do have somebody that you can isolate he can get a shot because you need to have that certainly in tournament time when you have a little bit tensor situation a lot more at stake. And can you go you who's your go-to guy? And Michigan did not have that already poll question. Mclovin is putting up there was it a foul, and we're fifty fifty on the Purdue, Tennessee and regulation. It's bringing Pat forty from. Yahoo sports national college columnists. He was there for that produce Tennessee finish. What did you make of that call last night, Pat? You know, I thought that there was contact lower body contacted it affect the shot. No. But the rule is that the shooter as a shooter until they're back on the floor. So I mean, I think you can call it. I you know, you kinda hate to see a game that good come down to a if he call. But I can't say it was a terrible call Rick Barnes afterwards said it was a foul. So I'm I'm going to say it with the foul. Would you call it? Yeah. I think I probably would've, you know. But I'm a killjoy anyway. Naturally. You labeled Oregon Virginia Virginia's win ugly. Why? Yeah. God. Yes. I did. Oh, oh, I I mean, the the stretch of like eight straight possessions where not only that nobody score. Nobody came close to score, you know, it's just like complete futility. And I I mean Oregon's just settling for these give up three pointers. They were gassed Virginia was flailing around looking like, you know, the weight of the world is on them. And to watch the first game go eighty to eighty two in regulation this game. Nearly one team gets the fifty was pretty stark contrast. I quoted you from your column yesterday where you know, it feels like there's more of an outcry. You gotta pay these athletes. I I wonder where that outcry will be in a couple of years when we are through with the one in done where the marquee players will go into the NBA, and we'll have these players that might need to spend two years or three years in college. Yeah, I think that would be a. Great Panadol really for this situation. They don't make guys go. But don't wanna go don't, you know, to send the economy underground and have everybody, you know, lying denying what's going on. Let them go pro that want to go, but they don't have to pretend to be students. They don't have to pretend they're not being paid. And you know, I just think it would work a whole lot better. We end charade. I still think college basketball would be an interesting product. I mean, there's no denying that. It was great for college basketball Zayn Williamson this year. But I if he doesn't wanna be in college, and he doesn't need to be in college. Why should we have to go to college? But if I said to you come up with a pay scale. Could you come up with something that we could somehow pay these athletes? You know, that's a really good question. And that's where I think a like a name, image and likeness thing would maybe make it a little bit easier because then there would be a market value. Like, you know, a sign Williamson would have one market value and Alex O'Connell off the bench for Duke would have a different one. And otherwise, if you're if you're just handing out cookie cutter payments of ten thousand dollars to each guy. I'm not sure that would work as well. So I I would like to see something tied to name image likeness, where you can sell jerseys that say Williamson on the back and Williamson gets a cut of it. You know, you can sell other merchandise like that I think that might be the best of what do you think? Zion. Williamson is worth this season to college basketball, if you were going to put a number all tens of millions of dollars. I would say I just think that the ratings have been humongous when they played ticket prices have. Been used that was the thing that that really hit me. I talked to a guy ticket guy before the tournament started in. We're looking at possibly having North Carolina Kentucky, and Kansas all in Kansas City. And you think that tickets going to be crazy and the tickets in BC were was going to be we're one hundred dollars higher than there. So I mean, he is the biggest ticket driver I've ever seen in college basketball, you won't so brought up then a lot of these teams are under investigation or the cloud of suspicion. You brought up what happening Kansas where an assistant coach is wiretapped. I guess he's talking to an Adidas rap who is telling him. This is what it's going to cost Kansas wants to get Cihan Williamson into Kansas. So are we to believe then that only Kansas was the one who was alerted to? This is what it was gonna cost to get Zion. Williamson that nobody else had conversation on that. He just went to do to get a scholarship. It stands to reason that everybody that was involved sign. Williamson knew what the going rate was going to be. So, you know, I bet if you don't think so then I I don't know what to tell you the only thing that makes it plausible that perhaps do didn't pay is the he he committed like three months after everybody had to go scared straight when when the fed Slough everything up and maybe by then the market had disappeared. And you know, you can't really walk around with your hand out at that point. But if before September twenty six two thousand seventeen when the fed went public with this everybody was recruiting John Williamson, I would think had to know what was going to cost to get families. And you I'm we're not surprised we've been around this a long time that these kids get paid. And you know, I understand why they have their hand. Don't. I mean, I understand it, and I would too if if I was I on Williamson, and I could better my family. Better my life. Still get you know, one year under coach K and then go to the NBA. I I understand it because these kids this is the only sport side from football. But they're not ready when they're coming out of high school where we say, oh, you gotta protect these kids. We don't care about kids in any other sport. But somehow we wanna protect our brackets and our March madness here, which is what it comes down to. Sure, you're right. And and look most of these kids are smart enough to know, they've been come out aside from auto ties from time their about fifteen years old, the good ones, the really good ones because you know, AAU teams are are battling for them. Sneaker companies are coming in saying, yeah, we'll pay two hundred thousand dollars sponsor your team. You know, they're being asked to, you know, live in one place and play for another team and you team over here. They they know what's going on here. So that for them, then to get the college expected that say, oh, well, never mind. I'm now a pure amateur. I is is incredibly naive. What schools in the most trouble? Do you think? Oh boy. I mean, I think LSU from what we know right now. Just because I I don't think there's any way to misinterpret what will way to sing on the wiretap. And that's gonna be a tough one to explain them. As a matter of fact, he hasn't even bothered to try to. I know I know and then he can't say, hey, I I wanna get out of purgatory. I want my job back here. And I'm like, no, no, no. If you explain explain what you're talking about with this. Great offer that you were giving one of your recruits. I mean, come on. Yeah. Me strong ask offer. This alert statement was fantastic. It was basically I want my job back because I want my job. You know? I'm not gonna I'm not gonna explain anything. I'm not going to admit anything. But I just wanna coke. So let me coach. Okay. Sorry. We'll done work that way. I think Robert Kraft might have a better explanation for what he's guilty of then we'll wait at LSU. I think so taking of underground economy is, yeah, how do you? How do you think? Tonight plays out. You know, I I really interested in the games in Kansas City. I I think Kentucky without PJ Washington could be in trouble against Houston. I don't expect her and be able to play. And if he does I don't know how effective he would be. You know, I think North Carolina like beats Auburn a hundred and five to ninety. It'll be a really up and down toward game should be a lot of fun. And then I expect the Duke and Michigan state so advance the one heck of original file good to visit with us. Always Pat keeps turn it up. All right. Thank you bad. Forty yahu sports national college columnist already we'll get phone calls here. Eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter handle at DP show. Got our poll question and we've got gusts in Los Angeles leading us off this morning high. Gus welcome back. Vendor for taking my call. It's final meat fried in the house. Congratulations on the new digs. Thank you. You know? It's a pleasure to call and talk about something else. I felt like I was I felt like I was turning into shea and everybody, and when it came to the Lakers, I'll get to talk about my dodgers, what a one of the talking about was that yesterday was as historic day at the ravine. But it's like, you know, you lead up the show with like, you know, you know, sh fool me once shame on you fool me twice him on me. It's like are we ever going to be able to enjoy a historic day? Like we did yesterday with eight home runs and not having the back of my mind. You know, any big testing these days is it on the up and up. Now, it's like are we ever going to be able to enjoy a home Winfield season without juice balls? You know, ROY is this guy taking a hormone supplement a lot, right? Manny Ramirez, you know, what's going on. Here. Are we ever going to be able to sit back? And enjoy the long Bill. I think I think the innocence is lost guns. But that doesn't mean you can't sit back and just enjoy it in. I I enjoyed it. I don't have everybody go to the plate or the I see where they hit a home run and go. Yeah. Probably cheating. I just I I'm not surprised won't be surprised if something emerges. But I'm not. I mean, I'm not that negative. When I'm watching the game. I just want to watch the game Robinson can owes a cheater. I don't know if he was cheating yesterday. When he homered off max Scherzer, but he has tested positive. He got suspended though. You know, what I wouldn't be surprised? And I think I mean, that's sort of the sad part. When you lose your innocence. When it comes to sports, you know, it's that's when you kind of, you know, you become a grownup, you're like, wow, man. That's a bummer. Like, I even look back at Pete Rose. And I say was he using steroids? Like the wave is built. I I don't know. But I never doubted Lance Armstrong. I kept thinking, well, the French don't like him, the French don't like us. So what? And then you see that Lance this great story of just surviving coming back from testicular cancer. And then you go, okay. But I'm not surprised with anything anymore that you guys have taken performance enhancing drugs to play darts. Why would we be surprised with any of this? But I don't I do not watch the game in have skepticism during the game. It's when somebody tests positive the only guy who if he ever tested positive would have brought down. The sport was probably Cal Ripken. Like if you said or jeeter if you said what? You know, a rod I didn't flinch bonds. I didn't flinch McGuire. I didn't Giambi I didn't Andy Pettitte a little bit. But only because he said, Well, I I had to do this to get back into the lineup to help my teammates as if nobody else could use that excuse, but just Andy Pettitte with the Enke's Clemens. I wasn't surprised with any of this. But. You know, I've been saying all along that steroids have been and probably still are Ingolf and basketball. Why why do we go notes only for football and baseball, really? If I can balk up and be a great basketball player adds Ed some size if I can add distance in my golf game. Of course, you would do it. If you can get away with it. So that that's I mean, I enjoyed it yesterday. I flipped around. I watch a ton of baseball yesterday. Watch the Red Sox. Get roughed up Chris sale. Get roughed up by the Mariners last night. I was just bouncing around. And I know point did I say other than when a rod came on on camera with Edgar Martinez. And I was wondering what this new documentary about a rod, and you know, the the steroid. A doctor who was prescribing all of this stuff to these guys like what's going to happen to a rod because rods on this campaign to make the whole thing. And it is a national campaign shaking hands kissing babies. And you know, he's a different guy. They got him on shark tank. He's on Sunday night baseball. He's a different guy than a guy who was blasting, you know, major league baseball and wanting to bring down people and here he is. He's looks great sounds great in the booth. Now, all of a sudden, you know, I'm wondering what this new documentary is going to mean for that. Goodwill tour to the baseball hall of fame. But no enjoy it watch. It just don't be surprised. I think that's really the key. All right. We'll take a break. We gotta play the day coming up next more phone calls as well. Back after this on the Dan Patrick show, if you could live your most prosperous life. What would it look like would you maybe open your own business or buy new home? 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Ryan climbed goes for twenty seven Purdue holds off Tennessee over time. They'll take on Virginia this weekend for chance to go to Minneapolis Purdue made fifteen three pointers last night in that win. They made sixteen three pointers against villanovan. The previous game they are the first team and NCWA tournament history to make fifteen or more threes in back to back games. And it made me wonder last night when I saw these numbers the Boilermakers thirty one three pointers over two games tied for the second. Most by any team in back to back games in tournament history. The only team in front of them the nineteen ninety Loyola Marymount team that had thirty two. And I was wondering what that loyal the Marymount team would be doing this year in college basketball. The fact that they were doing what they were doing. And they were so far ahead of everybody. You know, Paul Westhead with that team in what they were doing. Me back then we were going. Oh, you can't win that way. They're going to give you two for their three. And that's what they were going to do bull exchange. Your two for our three. We're confident enough that we can shoot those threes. And I can't imagine what Loyola Marymount if they were playing today where everybody's allowed to shoot three. We're okay with the three the coaching philosophy is take the three and that was a fun team to watch back. Then play the day brought to you by truecar in sports a trade can make or break your team. It's no different when it comes to selling trading in your car, you need to make good choices. And with truecar. You've got a star on your Oster. So when you're ready to sell or trade in your car, check out truecar true cash offer not available in all areas. Pete in Texas joins us. Hi, pete. When you have for me. And I just wanted to say good morning congrats on the move to the new Bank aches and wanted to officially invite you guys joined the Purdue bandwagon know that we we do love our shooters. Like, you guys are gonna see that. You guys are practicing all the time. So we'll always have space on the boilermaker special for you. I appreciate that Pete. Thank you. Yes. Mclovin. No interest for me. I'd rather win fair and square. Wow. Mclovin. Okay. Sill mclovin tweets last night after this call is made. And what happened after that? So I had I add Tennessee winning that game in my bracket. I kind of needed that one. And I said this I put the video taped off TV into this is a disgrace. And I just thought like, you know, like normal fourteen people would reply it'd be like now, you're wrong. All of a sudden, I noticed my phone is blowing up, and then Doug Gottlieb is saying you literally only person in the country who takes his wasn't foul. Seth Davis who has Purdue in the final four shockingly thought it was foul big surprise there. And like all these college basketball experts were jumping in Sam decker of former Wisconsin star. Wait, he criticized you too said that is a foul a thousand out of a thousand times. Okay. But he'd had a few beers. And he said he doesn't even like college basketball. Okay. And friend for shila who's a college basketball analyst he responded as well. What did Gottlieb say that? You're the only literally the only person who thinks that that wasn't a foul. Okay. But the only reason why you thought it wasn't a foul because you had Tennessee beating Purdue absolutely weren't basing this off of any rules or why it was fouled like, Tennessee. Coach said it was a foul just talking fan like the guy jumps. And he put he turns and puts his hands away. He didn't touch his art when I think about jump shot foul. I think you got to contact his arm at all. Yes, there hips touched. But you would never call that in a pick up game. Like, he didn't hit his arm. But this isn't a pickup game. You wouldn't call it. I mean, come on in the middle of a game if someone 'cause it would be like, oh, that's pickup game you call your own founds. Yeah. But even in a real game. Like, nobody's they're not going to call that it nobody that foul. Are you kidding me? The way that guys are hitting each other in this game. Like, Texas Tech was malling going back to Texas towel over there. So many if that's a foul there's five hundred down was a different game different officials, Texas in Purdue I'm telling you there were fifty worst plays that we're not called. You can't call to that level. Yes. Hunting. Hunt on was the contact after the shot had gone already. Definitely the contact. That's being called. Yeah. Why would that matter you have to allow the shooter to be able to come down? So if you I mean, he was on him, but he wasn't under him. You. You can't have any. They protect you. When you go up for your jumper because there are cheap defenders who will put their foot under you just to let you know when you come down you could turn your ankle. And they they're trying to get rid of that. And they've done a pretty good job of policing that but that's what they're trying to protect. If you go up that you can still come back down, Yarmuk lemon. I heard an analysts say key point was did the shooter kick out his feet to the extent where they supposed to land in the same place rule to exist. Yeah. So that's where the real controversy lies. And and then I thought that maybe it's an even trade off there that maybe there was a little contact. But also he's trying to initiate contact as well because he knows he's going to miss the shot. And that's what Reggie Miller did for an entire hall of fame career where he tried to draw contact on Carson Edwards speed. Whether it's right or wrong, go forward and the contact happens between their legs like he's not doing a straight up jump shot. He kinda Jackson himself as arms go forward. His legs kind of kick for it at the end. They they split day. I've root for producing way. Yes. A seat isn't the contact that their hips? Yep. So what does it matter whereas likes do if he kicks his legs out? That means his hips would actually go back further. We're going to have to get somebody who knows. And plus it, isn't it crazy. How close he has to step out of? That's what I thought of like man, you gotta look to see if he stepped out of bounds more than anything because he's he's on his toes. If he was just on it flat footed with the ball. I think he would have been found. Mclovin. First of all it took nine seconds. Inbounds is supposed to be five. Carson Edwards push them off the bigger problem with the inbound than I do the foul then on the next play tennis. He does stupid inbound play where they but the guy who's running the clock started early. Then the referee to give him time out on time. They should've had a last second shot. They got sort of jogged on that one too. Of course, I do. Yeah. No, you at Tennessee, Tennessee. That's the other thing. You still can't get it. Right. You keep saying produce. How is it produced up by eighteen and I gave up on that game. Then I come back in Tennessee has the game in hand. It was a very confusing game. Yes. Boeing, and when he missed the first free throw, your you started thinking the other way that if he misses one of the next two it'll be oh what McKnight by the way that kid on producing hitting forty for jumpers in the guy's face. That was well Ryan client. How are they a three seat if they have Steph curry on their team? I was wondering that he can't miss from fifty feet away. I wish you had Purdue because I'd love to have heard. You argue the other way clear foul. Yeah. Clear fell. Wilson in Oklahoma. I wilson. Hey, DC good morning. I'm long time five ten and a half to fifteen and grouping. Two things real quick one. You know, you gotta have the one shining moment. Song for me Friday. I would like to offer up one Brian moment. Ooh. And yeah. Hey, dan. Did you think that you were looking at old footage of yourself when you were watching Klein last night just come on be on us? No because he was making the shots and. And he played some defense. I think so. No. And he's about six six. I remember his dad was at Ohio State. I don't know how good is dad was at Ohio State. But I I remember a Mike Cline at Ohio State. A couple of other phone calls in here. John k joining us from Detroit. Hey, john. Kirstein long time five eleven a proportionate one hundred eighty pounds this John k and who's to say, yes, it is. John sorry about the loss. Great great effort. Great video any meat Friday songs. Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate that. Yeah. Kenny song is undeniable. And I'm sure sure there are a lot of DP show fans who reminisce about the mid nineties. Bumping the Warren g and Nate Dogg. Yeah. Tribulations is pretty good by Kenny California. I mean, you're in a tough bracket there, and you lost to a great a great song that well before I officially concede. Our teams lost the tribulations. I'd like to just take a second. If I could assigned a little light on you. I've been watching you since you guys again on NBC sports in two thousand twelve and you've been a morning staple since in frankly, your authenticity, the depths that you Plum, in interviews, and in fact, that you're always focused on moving story forward, not beating same thing over and over. It's it it it resonates in and keeps me coming back. And also my girl. Friends. She started watching the show. She's not even into sports, which we we have you on every morning just enjoy it so much. So thank you, Johnny go to thank you for bringing the great content, but any thanks for not only featuring our video and our song. But also, including it as the number three seed in the bracket that was we were pleasantly surprised at that. And since you did DP nation has been welcoming and engaging with us across those for media, and everyone has been credibly complimentary of both the me try to video and original music as well. And breaking news. We're going to be doing the new who steps song send to you and booking his show in Hartford later this year. I love that. Maybe we'll cross paths. Can we play a little bit of John k and who's to say seating? Yes. You can vote on the DP show app. We're down to the final fork one hour of the books. Podcast one's coverage of March madness runs on diesel. Maradas March which means it's time for the madness. So, you know, we got it all covered on the beat podcast with me shut the legendary king the game baby thing, but how you doing? 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South Regional

Courtside with Seth Greenberg

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South Regional

"Slam jam Ben dick, what are you doing warm up for the game? I all the games I watch even when I can't get tickets. It helps bring stadium atmosphere to wherever on watching all the diaper. Daddy, doesn't again come on dick save it for the air. We've got a game and check out vivid seats. It's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to vivid seats for the windy. Let's look at the south. But before we know commercials enough you use to commercial. I'm not ready to not breaking this up. We're just breaking it up nicely. So that we have nice little ins and outs. With the audio tech. This in the south is like ARCO ahead. A second because we have a little bit of camera time on ESPN. Plus, I was in a compliment you on your shirt, but maybe a whole. Made sure greatest let me isn't a main man. Get him until you. Okay. Great. They're not a sponsor. I'm not talking. G get easy road. Right out of the dryer. Out here. I think they've got an easy ride. I do I like Oregon is a little upset team. Yeah. You're not as high in Purdue you'd think Purdue fill one for seventeen game from Carson Edwards, and he's got a little bit of a bad back. He just went four for seventeen within love inside information. You're you're like what was it? The Indianapolis star Greg Doyle wrote a column about your boy, every lawyer long. It's been Carson going to carry this Purdue team. No doesn't try to buy the better. Right. But that's sort of the thing. It's like he's going to have to carry them. How far can he knows them? Good. Even when he hasn't carried try if he tries to carry them against Old Dominion, Jeff Jones. Who by the way is a great story. Battling prostate cancer one of your friends. I know says when Carson Edwards played where he did everything except try to score meaning he cut he handled. He defended he drove. And then he scored Purdue had the best game of the year. Against Ohio State beat them by a hundred at and he probably still scored twenty know he did. But he did everything else. If he does that in this tournament printers going to beat Old Dominion, I told I totally I think sometimes less is more. I mean, sometimes you just like, look, he's mighty mouse. He can go whenever he wants. Let's face masks giving him more freedom than probably he would he's giving him big dog for. Back in the day. Yeah. And then he pulled the rains in a little bit. And then he and then Carson started playing well. And then all of a sudden car said it was for some reason tried to do just too much like when they move it, especially with Williams in the post now, and you bring harms off the bench, and he does his thing. Like less is more for him. Like, the fewer minutes Harz plays the better off. He is like some guys just you play too many minutes, and they they lose her tippety lose their impact on the game. But I think they'll get through that this is an easier brat. This is the easiest bracket. Yup. Without say this. I heard you guys play devil's advocate on it. Yes. Not so nice Greenberg. Dockage? Let me go through this. You've got a little just in terms of winning. You've got the big twelve champ. Kansas state. You've got the Pac twelve conference tournament. Champ. You got the big east regular season champ. You got the big east tournament champ. You got the the big ten co champion. You've got the A C N P tournament ship. And you got a team that was battling to be number one in the country and Tennessee so in terms of championships and winning not too bad. This this some people say, this is like the tortoise hair bracket. I play. Here's what it is. It's it's let's get a stop ranking. Because here you got Virginia Lee defensive team Kansas state elite defense team, Oregon elite defensive team novas good. Not great Purdue a very good this constantly, very good defensive team. I mean, if you go right down if you go right down this bracket. Yeah. This team is built this bracket is built on the defensive end. It's built with the slow pace. Does that bring losing into play more often for Virginia? It could like I think Kansas state's it would be an interesting game. Got a if dean Wade pluses got I if dean hunter anyway like that looks need can score a little bit Brown scores. It I mean. But what they do. They do is they they let that'll be that'll be old Wisconsin Basque but fifty five right? I mean, that'd be I fifty five ole miss Oklahoma. I do NATs like holding home. I had him early in the year. I thought they were going to be better. I love their coach, obviously, Christian good Mayock. What is the name Brady? He looks like Larry Bird. Manic Brady manic where I wanna go with Kermit Dave to find a car. Yes. I like the way the guards are tough tirade prevalent Gaza. Give really good entire is very good terrace. Davis is very good. Why do I get the shoe is very so up and down this year? Just because the schedule they were playing. Games and lost cut. Space some coaches here we go spice up your record is who you play when you play him where you play them. So when they played the teams they were supposed to be the want. Kentucky when they played those people. Wisconsin Arctic I got Oregon, I think Oregon's good, I think Oregon officer Kenny wounds blocking some shots, which is a good thing. You don't see I think Richard and Paul white. A pretty good Ken Kenny Wooten take on hap one on one with help. Everybody can stay with the three points shelves. That's the way to beat Wisconsin. One hundred percent now can kennywood instead of foul trouble. That's an issue and play plan. If you haven't played against hap-, he gives you all that is hard. It's hard. When you when you don't you think, you know? But you don't know do they get worse. You the camera on my man over here. Glowing. Here's lister. This is this is for audio and visual less visual. Hopefully, kenny. He he has let guard him and away. But if you could leave your feet, if you're going to expose yourself. You're you're in trouble with Louis kings, playing really well, young freshman, and I just think white perch fourth year junior because he transferred and Paul whites fifth year senior shorts. I just think I think they're I guarding. I mean, really all monkey coach the heck out of a team. But did it take this team a long time to figure out how to play without bo-bo coming into the year thinking that that this was going to be such an important part of this team gets heard they didn't play well really until they didn't play. Well, until March were a circus the beginning year because Abobo why because all the attention that he received. I mean, you know, here's his seven whatever guy he shooting threes, and the expectation was a little bit. I think unrealistic, but I think they'd open good week last week and she doubly tournament and a contract extension APAC championship, and a pack contract extension. Do you miss? Nobody misses a contract extension like set. I mean, he he contract you will find every assistant whacked with been rack extensions are good. What would he picks up on the contract extension, Tennessee, the bats? I think that since he and Tennessee the one thing about since he's that little matchup that they do it takes a while to get used to it. And in a short turnaround. You can't simulate that land that that's since he was missing since you deserve better. I think since he was seated there, it's almost like a favor we're gonna play in Columbus meant to do that. We gotta CG here. We can't do that. That's how I looked at yet. Like, Jerry, Kabul was great today. He's so good. And he's so strong just up jump up and shoot and either broom or or or one of those other guys steps up shots Jennifer make shots. And then the big guys just like Brooks ain't just they just cracked the glass, you can look every year and the big guys for Cincinnati ten years ago or the same big guys that are Cincinnati right now for names powder found make Cronin best coach humble. And I feel like come to is our I don't mean physically. I mean like this do doesn't get enough respect. I agree with that. I feel I mean concentrate incidentally tournaments. I feel like Cumberland could have a terrible game yet with when the games on the line. You still want the ball in his hands make shot just has ice water in his veins who comes out of that. So let's look at the south end do coming out of the east when all of a sudden done who's gonna come out of the south in your mind. I think it's going to be for JD. That's that's my gut feeling. I just think that Virginia is I know they get hot called because at times they pitched it away more than. Than usual. They're turning over a little bit too much. And that worries me a little bit with this bracket. But I think for junior is poised to to get out of your the one game. We didn't talk about his Villanova Saint Mary's. I don't like Saint Mary's. But you don't like Villanova. I o villain will get at first weekend. I don't I here's my deal. I mean, look PASCAL and booth are good players. And it's great to see senior step up and good years. That's kind of vocal thing. And that's great. But like either Glaspie or city pay half the play well for there to be good. 'cause they need someone else. I mean, they got your main Samuels scarred buckets. Now, they win on culturally went on toughness. They win because the best jump stop pivoting team in America. I don't know they just and j right is charmed dump stop cyclic. Michigan jump. Stop pivoting against anybody. I will take your this get and I will raise you Villanova. Is there a chance, and I'm going to say there isn't a chance. The best game. I've seen Saint Mary's playing. My life was against it was the best. I I'm the force for good now. Jordan Florida's pretty good now. I mean, really they spread it out. I mean, the heck is this. It's a microphone, right? But I. I got Bill I'm taking Purdue over Villanova. But I'm not going to be surprised if Villanova doesn't make a run until we have come out of there. Virginia. I got for you, still not Tennessee surpri doesn't even sound like it's close. No. Semi tennessee. I just think for Jinya. And you know, what else? What have you done for me lately? Tennessee's great. I love them all year than I watched them today. And I thought they got this -combobulate how about the kitchens all over the place throwing the bothering auburn's good. But arbuthnot. So how many shots I would Auburn does? They create chaos, and it makes you show. I'll take tennis always good to make always good to make shots. We got have a been on this. I'm sure you would like that. State farm, Robert Robert, somebody burned down, my she shed. 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Trades! The Celtics & Grizzlies Make A Deal Plus A Surprise Move By The Nets & Pistons

NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane

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Trades! The Celtics & Grizzlies Make A Deal Plus A Surprise Move By The Nets & Pistons

"Hello, everybody. Welcome into the NBA front office show. We've got a trade to break down today a couple other little things as well to dive into. Make sure you are subscribed right here to the NBA for office YouTube channel. We are pushing for 10,000 subscribers. You've listed the podcast version of this. We'll go over to YouTube. Make sure you subscribe there and subscribe to the podcast version as well. If you're on Apple podcast, Spotify, wherever you are finding us there. Keith, how are you doing, man? We got a trade to talk about and it involves your team. Yeah, and it happened as literally as I was walking into shanxi today. Which was phenomenal. No spoilers here from this guy, but just really, really good. And I like all the marvel stuff, but this one was excellent. So go make time to go see it if you're a marvel fan. Or if you're not even a marvel fan, but a martial arts fan, that one was really good, but yeah, trade broke, so I had to kind of sit there and turn my brain off a basketball to make sure I enjoyed the movie, plenty while while we were there, but yeah, Boston Celtics and Memphis Grizzlies who have hooked up for a lot of trades over the past few years, do it again. And this time it's a wanto hernan Gomez headed to Boston in exchange for Christine and Carson Edwards. So done and hernan Gomez barely swung by their Boston and Memphis and said hello. And we heard her on Gomez was not going to report to the grizzlies. And now he's headed off to the Celtics. And then down in Edwards headed to Memphis along with a second round pick. So Boston, during a second round our Celtics take on a little bit of money in this trade, but I think probably get quite clearly the best player of the three players involved. Now I saw it was a second round pick swap, so it's not even a full second rounder. At least that was the early reporting on it. I don't know if maybe that has changed since then. But but I saw a second round pick swap on it, but regardless, it's a minor asset going into the world. And yeah, it's like a kind of sort of a second round pick. It's not even one Boston really kind of actually owns. So it's a little weird, the way that one works out. The Celtics had a couple future seconds like that. And for this guy, it makes me happy that that's now removed from the book bookkeeping that I have to pay attention to that second round. So I'll take it. So at this point, we can just kind of add this into the Eric Bledsoe trade for the grizzlies tally. It feels like they just flipped and flipped and flipped so many different pieces of that trade, but now they do wind up with Carson Edwards and Christ on but I guess let's start there. What are the grizzlies gonna do? They keep adding players. They cut, they wave Rajon Rondo and then you do a two for one trade to bring in more pieces and you still have to wind up cutting players at the end. So I don't understand that part of it. Yeah, Memphis too, just to give an overall picture right now after all there maneuvering, they are back up to 19 players on fully guaranteed standard contracts. One of those is a summer contract. They have one player on a two way. And my guess is the guy who's on the summer contract he's pawns who is with them and summerly. He's a rookie undrafted rookie out of Tennessee. My guess is he'll eventually be converted to the other two way spot from Memphis, but that leaves them with still three fully guaranteed contracts that they're going to have to wave. Here, so that's going to be an interesting to see which direction they go. My guess is if I was a crystal in Carson Edwards, I don't know that I'd be looking for real estate in the Memphis area. Keith, we have some breaking news. Breaking news, I know another trade. Deandre Jordan Andrew boats norsky, we're gonna break this. We'll break this one down right after we finish breaking down the Celtics grizzlies trade. All right, so according to Asia booster, Brooklyn, the nets are trading Deandre Jordan for a future second round pick on a four future second round picks. So Deandre Jordan and four future seconds and $5.78 million to Detroit for jaleel Okafor and seeker do boya. Pistons planned to work on a buyout for Deandre Jordan. So we'll put a pin in that one and we'll break that one down in just a minute, but let's jump over the Celtic side getting wanting to hurt and Gomez. What was your takeaway there? I mean, stretch big. I think he fits a need for the Celtics, right? Yeah, he does a little bit. There now kind of, I think, balanced fairly well. They've got a lot of different ways they can go, hernan Gomez probably they did in the way Boston plays will be more of a for than ever three, which is fine. They don't really need anybody else to play the three. They have Jason Tatum, jaylen Brown, and her niece Smith Romeo Langford, who can all do that, Marcus smart, of course, can, as well, if they need to, they did this basically brings them to 15 standard contracts. Also, on the roster, so they can kind of stick with that if they want to now. Jabari Parker could stay and have his contract become fully guaranteed. They allowed his deal to become guaranteed for a minimal amount only a hundred K the other day, which signaled to me that they were necessarily going to move on from him. Celtics took on a little bit of money in the trade. There were about 6.8 million now above the luxury tax, but I think what this mostly does for a Boston is it gives them with hernan Gomez, one tradable sound of $7 million versus it's almost two tradable salaries of $7 million and done in Edwards. And that's important. And now Boston isn't a position where they continue to stack up these mid range contracts that they could eventually move in a trade, whether it be now or in the next off season hernan Gomez non guaranteed contract for next year about 7.5 million. But again, if you need 7.5 million in the trade, you just guarantee it and move him along. And that's a fair number for him for what he is as a player. So really, this is a no risk move for Boston. All hernan Gomez can do his help. Either on the court or via trade matching. And this is and so this gives you a contract that's movable. I think he's a guy that can indeed help them on the court like you said. This isn't to me for the sell from the Celtics perspective. This is a single, right? And we've talked about this. It's not a home run, but it's a single, and you hit it enough, singles. They really start to add up. So I like this move the Celtics. It's a little bit more of a head scratcher from the grizzlies, perspective, like I don't okay, you got first on you got questions. I guess they get a second round pick, got a nothing. So you get that. But okay. But, you know, I think it was a good piece of work here by the by the Celtics. Let's get into this new trade that just broke. And so we're going to kind of break this one down on the fly, which is always fun. So Deandre Jordan, who we heard was going to get bought out by the Brooklyn Nets is now instead going to get bought out by the Detroit Detroit Pistons. But they're giving up July Okafor, which I mean, he doesn't have a ton of value around the league, but do boya, I mean, this is a guy that I thought would have at least a little bit of value. Let's try to dive into this from the pistons perspective. What's the benefit of going this route? You can clear some salary, but I feel like you're giving up on seeker dump boya who I mean, we saw it played okay in summer league this year. Yeah, I'm not, I don't know. Now des moya was probably on the outside of the rotation looking in after all of their additions in the past couple of years because you've got still have Jeremy grant yesterday, Kate Cunningham. I know some people think of him as more of a guard, but I think of him as a big wing. We'll have the ball in his hands a lot. So if Josh Jackson, they resigned hamadou Diallo. And then on the big line, you've got obviously grant can play the four and does play quite a bit. You've got Kelly Olynyk as a Stewart tray lyles now. So my guess is this was just I'm looking at and saying, Sekou boy is not really gonna be a part of things. You're and again, these teams continue to value second round picks and getting four of them in a train is pretty big. So it says that they are Detroit is getting what is it the nets? A second rounders in 2022 and 2027, a 2024 wizard second rounder. In 2025 warriors second rounder. So those could all have some value that 2022. That's one is not going to. That's going to be pretty deep into the second round because they should be very, very good. But 2027, who the heck knows what they'll be by then? And then 2024 wizards, Bradley Beal leaves, they can be pretty bad. And then 2025 warriors, that's about when they're probably going to be on their for real downswing, I guess. We can call it. So those are probably some pretty valuable savings. Seconds rather. I'm reading another tweet as I'm trying to talk, which is never a good thing. So yeah, and then they're just going to buy out the under Jordan that 5.78 million. That's the max, the nets. Not much. That much of Jordan's salary and then they'll figure out a buyout and off he'll go and my guess is probably head off to the Lakers like we've been hearing for the last couple weeks. And Lakers fans go mild for Deandre women. Potentially arriving in Los Angeles. We'll see exactly what happens there. But yeah, I guess the second round was really are the value there for the Detroit Pistons. For the nets. The nets you get I liked it. I mean, the nets, you get the value of not having to buy him out. You don't have that dead money now sitting on your books. Seems 47 million in salary and tax for the needs because they're so far above. So they're so deep into the upper penalties now. So 47 million between salary and taxes the nets are saying to that right there. Forget about the players involved about that right there is worth the four second rounders that you gave up. And if you're the nets who cares about four second rounders, as soon as you have an open roster spot, you've got veterans lining up to take the minimum from you. So it doesn't matter. Yep. Yeah, my guess is Okafor will get waved here in this, so that'll probably bring the nets about back to even. I don't know what happens now. I'm guessing Don boya takes a spot at least initially probably our Alice Johnson gets waived. Here is my guest and in the next we'll move along and then they'll figure out a way to manufacture another spot if they need to come buy out season trade deadline, whatever it is. So I mean, this is this is a good move for the Brooklyn Nets. A really good move. I think that it's this helps them out considerably. And we'll see where they go from here. And now Deandre Jordan, like you said, we'll probably hit the we'll hit the market and we'll see exactly where he lines up. You did have a little bit of news. You had another player that signed on to a two way contract, I believe. Not nearly as exciting as two trades, including one that as we started recording breaks, but still just for completion here. Yeah, veet creature who was a second round pick in 2020, the wizards drafted him and then traded him to the thunder. He's signing on with the thunder of a standard contract for Karachi. I don't know. We're going to find out real quick. What this kid is, he's, if nothing else, he's extremely young. So we'll see he's only 21, just turn 21 towards the end of June. He's from out of the Czech Republic. He's been playing in Spain for a couple years now. Did not play much, he was actually on a team in Spain this year, barely played. And then last year he got into 37 games, but barely played 9 9 minutes a game. Didn't do a whole heck of a lot. He's done a little bit more on the international level. Or I guess on the national team level for the Czech Republic in the Euro basket qualifiers in 2020, the average of 5 and a half points per game there. But he's kind of a wing with some sizes about 6 foot 8 or so. Can really handle the ball and pass a little is the scouting report on him. So we'll see. I mean, for the thunder, this is a, you know, hey, let's just see what it looks like. We'll find out the details on this contract. My guess is pretty heavily non guaranteed. But the thunder, even before, so before doing this signing, this is why they can afford to do these things. They are still $22.3 million under the salary floor. So you can just use some of this. Yeah, you could just give this kid the rest of your MLE and just say thanks, man and off you go. There. And that's kind of what they did how many people even know, but they signed Gabriel deck, a guy out of Argentina at the end of last year, just to help meet the salary floor. They gave him a little over 3 million. He's on a non guarantee. So my guess is this is going to have a pretty significant non guaranteed money and we'll see if he even makes the team on a came just to just be clear and everything in terms of the salary floor with the Oklahoma City Thunder being 22 million below the floor. That doesn't mean they get to just save that money if they stay below the fourth. They have to rise up to that floor. So let's say they stay the way they are for the entire rest of the season, and they are below that salary floor. What will happen is that $22 million at their below the floor will get divvied up between all the players that are currently on the team. They're spending that money no matter what. So that means you should expect other moves to come where they're going to absorb some salary and probably get you guessed it more draft picks in return. So I would imagine that's going to happen. They're still sitting on a couple pretty good TPUs, 12.8 million for Trevor reason and 9.6 million for George Hill that they'll have all the way up to the trade deadline. So they're just about the reason one expire slightly before the trade deadline. But my guess is they would use those before they go to waste. We do have one little other bit of news here. We started a show thinking we were only really talking about a Celtics grizzlies trade. And now here we are. Lamarcus Aldridge, according to Casey Johnson of NBC sports Chicago, is also considering the Chicago Bulls. So don't inch yourself. So don't just assume he's a Brooklyn net just yet but the bulls have been on Aldrich's radar according to Casey Johnson. What do you think about that as a potential landing spot for Lamarcus Aldridge? I love that. If the bulls can get them. Yeah. Huge for them because they're only backup big of no right now it's Tony Bradley, who had a nice year last year for Philly backing up Joel embiid. He can defend a little rebound a little. He's not much of an offensive player. But yeah put all George out there behind vuchevich. That's pretty good. My guess is the lore of playing for the nets is going to win out here and that's where he'll end up. But here's a little bit of the challenge for the Nats right now is we assumed Lamarcus Aldridge would take the deal as a Johnson spot. Now if you want to keep DOM boya, and I don't know that he's just a turnaround a wave them kind of guy, the nets are running out of roster spots a little bit here. And that makes it a little tougher after doing this trade. So maybe that's what all George just maybe kind of looking at and saying, hey, I'm going to bounce over to a team where I'm no I'm going to get there. The bulls still have two standard roster spots open as well as a two way spot. So yeah, and you could your defense would be absolutely horrible, but you could play him next to vujovic on occasion if you really wanted to go twin towers double big lineup. Because both of them can step out and shoot the ball. So you could do some stuff there if you needed needed offense. It'd have to be against the right kind of teams. But I like that's what I mean, I kind of like just for balance of the leave if you'd go to Chicago. You know, but we'll see, I'd also like it as someone who thinks Nick klaxon should be playing quite a bit for the nets as well. So Chicago's perspective, we know they're all in to win this season. It's all about making the playoffs this year, showing Zach lavine they can win. So it would make a lot of sense to go and get a veteran guy like Lamarcus Aldridge who you know can come in and really help you out assuming he's a 100% healthy, which is, you know, something we talked about yesterday. But if he can come in and give you some minutes behind vucevic, that's a real weapon, right? That's a guy who can come in and finish out a game, right? Help you win a game down the stretch because he's going to make veteran plays. And I like, I like the fact that he can shoot too because it means your offense doesn't have to completely change when vucevic is off the floor. You can still kind of run some of the same sets because Lamarcus Aldridge maybe he's not quite as good of a shooter as boost pitch, but he still has that skill at that skill set where he can step outside and shoot. So I like that just for continuity in the bulls offense as well. So I'm for it, I would rather, and it's not just because, you know, everybody's saying it's going to be Lakers. That's in the finals. Just for kind of balancing the NBA in addition to I think there's going to be more minutes from Lamarcus Aldridge in Chicago. So I would like to see that one go down. And they were a team that was always rumored to side him a couple different times when he was a free agent. That was one of the things I was talked about quite a bit. So yeah, all right, two more things just because it just keeps coming. This is just a minor add on. Wow, just tweeting the Lakers are serious contenders to sign Deandre Jordan, which is, you know, let's read between the lines there. Deandre Jordan said it to the Lakers. Then James Edwards tweeted this one. And then I had to look to make sure it's accurate and it's very spot on accurate. Killian Hayes drafted with the with a first round pick in 2020, is the longest tenured Detroit pistol. Wow. Talk about turnover. Believable. Boya was the only player left from when Troy weaver took over. And now there's none at all. Okay, yeah. There we go. Well, we can do that. We wrap on that. I think so. I think we certainly can. Everybody, thank you so much for joining us. This is what happens. When we start a show, we intend to talk about one thing. The next thing you know, like 5 other things, get thrown at us, but that's the kind of content you get when you subscribe right here to the NBA front office show. Don't forget to turn on those notifications as well and make sure you do like this video until next time everybody stay safe and see ya.

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What Dennis Schroder signing means for Celtics/Summer League takeaways

Winning Plays

41:02 min | 2 months ago

What Dennis Schroder signing means for Celtics/Summer League takeaways

"This is the winning Place podcast on the clns media Network. The leading online provider for the NBA's winningest franchise. Hey there. Welcome in to the winning Place podcast, life, Las Vegas. At least I am Brian bernardoni. Filling in for rich is back at the home-based, New England and Ryan. We are the Celtics have made their second free agent signing and the bargain-basement pin has hit dentist. Router is coming aboard for the taxpayer mid-level exception of Life, 5.9 million dollars, which is considerably less than an offer. He got earlier last season, but we'll get to that later. But for now, we we kind of four on this possibility on Friday and I enrich and we kind of just a like they're it's it's worth looking yet, but maybe it's not going to be a situation where it's realistic if you have to, you know, get hard cats and stuff were Thursday. Brad Stevens and Company, find a way to pull this off without having to give themselves any limitations. He takes the taxpayer, but it doesn't even get the player option in your tubes. Don't even have to worry about that aspect of it. Your initial impressions of this. This deal getting pulled off. Yeah. I mean, it's hard to argue with the value. Seems like a really good deal. And do you know where it will go from here? Right? And as we talked about, he's not like the ideal fit for, for what I think the team is looking for. But like, six million dollars, that's totally fine. That you don't need the ideal that you just bought some somebody who's an upgrade and who's going to play. And he certainly both of those things when we were talking. I was sort of assuming that they would have to find a place to move, Chris done, and open up a full mid-level and and I didn't think they were both of us. Both of us. Did I think we all had? No one class going to take less nine. Maybe not go for a second year on it, but at least be able to to get to that amount. And yes, that would then mean the hard cap and that's why I would have to move dog. And all that sort of stuff. So to not have to do any of that. Seems like a like a really good value. They may still move done for other reasons. I don't know if there's any real spot for him on the roster or somebody like, if somebody's name is out here when you look at sort of the way the roster set up, not just from the number of people who are on it, but from how many you know, guards there are are currently on it. But regardless of what happens from this point, like you just can't really argue with it. And it took the obviously like worst case scenario is he gets injured or something like that but taking that out and play like I think the worst case scenario would be like the team underperforms and you trade him at the trade deadline and like you turned an exception that you weren't going to use for anything else into two second-round picks or something. And that's like your worst case, you know, you're reasonable worst case scenario here, which is still pretty darn good. So you really like what can you say about? Like you get in for that amount? Then I sort of have to take it. And it's, you know, I think a good another good move of terms of like getting value out of limited resources throughout this month. This offseason, and it's sort of the way I've sort of been thinking about is that it's like almost the Bill Belichick, New England, Patriots move where you see a lot of really bad deals signed at 6:05, the first day, free agency opens and if you're patient and you wait out the market a little bit, then there's always some guys who are left over and those guys maybe a little bit less attractive than the guys who went off the board on the first day, but they're 10% off worse for 30% of the pay in like in a salary cap League. That's that's a good deal that matters. Yeah. And I think that's a great point from home. This is honestly like looking back at like the 48 just deal and last trade deadline and just this whole free agent Market. In twenty Twenty-One, I always looked up at all these names and just the teams that had cap room and thought that, like again, I I, you know, you thought it might be for me, but it was going to be someone like someone was going to slip through the cracks because Is there wasn't enough cap room to give all these guys that kind of deals? They were looking for and so that was always going to be in plain form so far. But I you you didn't necessarily expect the Celtics to be the beneficiary of that that could have been like any team. Cuz all these tons of teams are only had the they're mid-level exception left and we're probably offering similar money the Celtics. But again, to your point, like Dave, the patient's play worked out very well here in terms of, okay, we have opportunity that we can offer week, have you, we can offer the same money as everyone else is offering you right back and we can offer you, you know, some some good players to play with. And so again, that formula usually benefits other team. And, and in past years, it's hard to tell this because the Celtics just renamed her opportunity because they've had pretty, you know, stacked up charts but this is situation where the camera. Trade-in obviously, for a walking for bigger, money, open the door here to, to go to a guy like shoot em. Say hey, like, we have this money. We know it's not what you want. But you can put together a good season here and then get paid. And now, again, that that kind of comes to fruition. Yeah, I think that's a a couple things in there. One is like, we don't actually know how much of this is designed versus Fortune. Right? Right. I guess they did offer more money and probably the full mid-level to some other players. Like, you know, the one that I've said, is life. Did they make an offer for Danny Green? Trying to get him away from Philadelphia? Like it would make total. Sure that's for them to have done that. So we don't know how much of this was like, I am fully against going into the hard cap, but I have heard that song like Brad has been reticent to want, you know, too hard cap, the team for a variety of reasons and that they would have, you know, they may have done that for other options if they have been able to get Lonzo ball on a sign-and-trade obviously, but that would do that. So I don't know how much of this is like pure design. That they like our plan is to wait out the market versus. How much of it was like our plan is to not do anything. That is going to limit us and then we'll just sort of see how the the chips fall beneath It's it's worked out well and and either of those things are also completely reasonable ways to operate through you know, an offseason with the resources that they had. So I think that that's been been good management. The thing that I find a little bit interesting is that I don't actually know if this is a situation where there is a ton of opportunity for him like compared to others, you look at the team. We know that Satan is going to handle the ball a lot. We know that they've sort of said that smart is still going to be $1,000 and probably the starting point guard. Josh Richardson can handle the ball, pein Pritchards look, very good and in in the very limited summer league stuff, but we'll also look like an NBA player last year and he's sort of a point guard down and so I don't know how much of an opportunity there really is, for like Dennis Schroder to run the offense and and be the sort of focal point other than for, you know, pretty limited Benjamin Ryan. That's near is the Celtics for an opposition. You right now, he's already signed. I signed the deal. I'm getting the reports right after that I don't even remember from who so I'm apologize for earlier. It said sort of said like they haven't made them any promises and birth. Being a starter or anything like that and of course, if they're offering Marcus Smart Seventeen million a year and they're offering die shooter, six million a year, for one season, there's an obvious understanding there that like they believe that smart a better player and so you would understand that he would be ahead in the packet or so, actually, but you get the point that I'm getting like I don't know real opportunity to do sort of what he would have done in Oklahoma City, a couple of years ago where it's like wage, you're going to be playing some of the time with Chris, Paul and Shay, but you're also going to get these minutes where you can sort of, you know, do your own thing. And I don't know if those minutes will be all that, that prevalent here, even if there is a need for shock creation and and on. Like there's going to be times when he's on the floor with Jaylin and Nesmith and whoever in the front court and he and he is handling the ball and and playing as a, you know, a real point guard. I'm just saying that when the team is fully healthy, it's not like there's 25 minutes of game where they're going to hand the ball to the dentist router and say go run things, right? And I think that's interesting that even in that situation they were still able to get them for six million dollars just cuz there's nothing. Is out there for him and, you know, the music stopped. And there were, there was one share left and so you take it, right? Get your point right? Like just his best case scenario is probably, you know, like I said, the six months where you are not going to be able to handle the ball for some of the game, but certainly not, you know, all the time you're out there. So but again, when he, you know, looks where where he thrived in OKC in those three guard, lineups, and stuff, like, obviously have the ability here to go off with those type of lineups with, you know, assuming that Richardson or or like a link for it is a third guard, there alongside him and smart and so that again met in terms of just getting paid and you know where the spot where I can play to my strengths and they get paid like you know, you're probably going to do look better here than you are going to look and, you know, I'm backing up, you know, D'Angelo Russell Minnesota, or whatever, but offer yet on the table. So it's it's even after we're initial Impressions, I know the roster isn't done here. Do you keep and I'm going to assume I guess do we assume now that Alice starting at the four arrived after you heard some Buzz about this that this is like the tentative plan back into next season. But now this is obviously a way if you don't do that, you can technically, you know, start smart and register in or smarten stronger together, and then, you know, obviously play Brown and Tatum at 3 in the 4 a.m. If you see how they they end up there, but what would you do? What do you think they're going to do? I guess it's better always answered. Yeah. I mean, I think there to guard heavy for that to be ideal and also off again at V, know that that is not the right role for Al Horford at this point. So why would you try to do that again? And so I hope that that's not the route that they go. I had before that I thought that they should just start Nesmith and get the shooting out there before they sign shooter. And now that I think that they have him like the shooter Richardson pairing wouldn't really be ideal. Neither of them are are real Shooters and birth. I think they sort of step on each others, toes a little bit in terms of what they're trying to do with the ball and where they, where they operate on the court. So I would start Richardson, I think. Yeah. So smart Richardson, jail and Jason and I would start Robert Williams and then for a couple of reasons, one is I think that that bench unit with shooter would do well, to have somebody like her for who can pass and shoot the ball a little bit more off. Rob's obviously a very good pastoral, but the particular shooting I think is helpful. So that's kind of where I would go with that but I I agree I don't really know and it would not surprise me if they start with Horford and then at some point have to abandon it because I I just don't think will ultimately work, but we'll see a situational thing against, you know, I might have some stuff in the East you but you're right. I mean, you don't really end up happening. Are you always talk about situational matchups? And then it's like, the, the grinding sort of nature of the regular season of having to play every two or three days, it's just dead. Hard to actually like Implement that, where you're changing your starting line-up, all the time. We saw Brad, we talked about in preseason and then you never really got to it because it's just hard to do and to keep your team in order. The obvious unknown here. Is if Brad Stevens was so long I would probably just be like, yeah, they probably gonna start all over at the four, or that they would say, they start about the five and not start Robin Williams, maybe. But with a new coach, I, I just really don't know. Cuz like, what are you based on? You don't even have a track record, your head coach. We we don't know what his preferences are going to be, what his system decisions will be. And also you have to get preseason done and and give them some time and training camp and things like that, for him to see all the players and make decision of them wants to play. And who do you thinks that there's fighting any Buzz there is now about, like, what they're going to do is premature, just cuz like we do probably doesn't know what he's going to do yet. So like, how would anybody else know, right? Yeah. It's so that would be again, with plenty of time for them for that to sell itself out. And I don't think that part of the roster will be tweaks much again, you know, other parts of roster, we'll get to that a minute, but yep. Think that situation, where how things look in the preseason will probably and training camp, will probably make the direction. They're going on that front, but they at least have some options there. And that will be fascinating to see how that turns out. What's here, for a sponsor been online, which is the fastest and easiest way to put on your all your Sports Action. We know, baseball seasons in full swing right now, but you can get odds on that NBA offseason stuff and show UFC, real-time updated. Odds of crops almost anything you can imagine. So for things, get going head off to bed online on your laptop or mobile device and take advantage of the 50%. Welcome bonus on your first deposit. Don't sit on the sidelines. You can use a promo code c o n s fifty years of a 50%, Welcome bonus with your first deposit. It's bound line, your online Sports Experts. Let's let's look to the depth chart. Now. I think this is a an interesting spot for the TV. So, yep. Shooter shine and gives them, you know, sixteen players signed NBA contracts right now to Paris bark Parker is not guaranteed. So that's an easy, you know, if you just want to cut money, that's an easy guy to go to get down to 15. But he also is, you know, you are a bit thin at Power Forward stuff. So, I mean, you do have great Williams there too, but he's not necessarily an off-handed to go where things are crab really crowded now is the backcourt. Did you have Smart router? Richardson Richard Criss done is still subject for the moment. Carsen Edwards still assaulted wage the remainder of summer league and then I mean you can throw link foot in there to obviously but I feel like he's been playing more of a wing anyway but so I would think there's not room for Chris done here though, even though he isn't to me is kind of an interesting Reclamation project given what he can do defensively. But with this signing it,, it looks like, you know, there's not really going to be room for him to for him and Pritchard to play. So probably makes sense to to move him, but I don't think anything from well. Yeah, I mean, I don't think he did anything for Thursday. So you're going to lose it. The end and I think at the moment as you said because they're so heavy head guard, that there is a path where we're Jabari makes the team and isn't just the assumed office. There's just nobody like of his size and whatever. I mean, we know they need somebody at that position. And if that's all that's left. Then then again, that maybe just sort of where, where they're left to be wrong and you go to the player that we've talked about a lot that sort of being on the cusp over over time that it's like, is Carson Edwards. The one who's out the primarily because you can just pay probably Oklahoma City, his contract writing just built a dog. Right. And while they they don't seem to be limited by the tax, line at the moment, they're currently over the tax. And from what I've heard. They don't have a mandate regardless of where they're you know, where the team is, is going to finish to, you know, definitely have to be under the taxes here. But Chris done makes five million dollars. In cars, never makes one point seven and like you can pay a team to take Carson upwards and then not have to to cut him and carry that it's a little more difficult to get rid of her to move Christian. You have to have somebody with a trade exception in. Oklahoma City can do it. But you can't just give them are going to wind around all the cash, right? Yeah. To just pay it or you could literally just be like, here's two million dollars of our trading. Cash. Take Carson Edwards, if you want to play. I'm fine. If not, you cut him and you made three hundred thousand dollars or two or whatever. However much money. It is that he makes, I don't remember off top my head like so maybe that that he's a little bit easier to wash do that with their also still could be some sort of consolidation trade here where you trade Kristen and Romeo Langford or whatever, and and you get some other player, who's a, some kind of upgrade or a better positional fit. I think that there is enough guys who have some amount of Interest as an a, a, a player to potentially put something like that together, but as we talked about, you don't want to be trading first-round picks and sort of encumbering your your options if it feel hits the market. So. Well, a little bit of a tough situation here, but like you're talking about 15/16 Guys near I think largely it comes down to like, is there a team that's still sees anybody in that group as having some value and wants them and in that if somebody wants Chris done and nobody wants carsen Edwards, then you trade Kristoff. If somebody wants to take, you know, whatever the other wants to take Bruno, Fernando, then that's who you give away. Like you just sort of deal with it, by, who answers the phone when you call about somebody else. Yeah, there's there's someone who's Going to be moving on this roster with again with the red catch of them. Were they? Again, they got that extra second-round picked with done and Fernando so that at least you can say if you want to include that does not include cash. You'll have that option to get off one of their deals. If it comes to that, or you could just again, if you if I don't expect us to happen, but it's, you know, if you just cut in words, you could do that too, but I'm assuming that situation, you you maybe a couple you cut, you cut Parker, you sign. Another big Wing at the two-way player and then you go that route. So that's your depth at the Dodge, the 3/4 spot. Yeah, any of those things are, you know, seem seem reasonable. Like I said I just don't think they would cut Edwards cuz they could probably pay somebody to take them in just as they might be attacks. Team you could you could do that just to avoid going into the tax avoid paying out a tax on top of something like that. Where you can literally just deal with it in cash, but you're getting to the exact same point you're saying will display to be on the team or not. And I think that all those things, like I said, are reasonable and and fine. And the good thing is that two weeks ago, it looked like some of those players may like have to play a role on the team and now with Richardson coming in and shooting and some of the stuff that's looking positive in in summer league that that's maybe settling a little bit where you don't feel like this sort of crushing dread about the team's depth you're like, I don't know. Actually there find out thousand nine, ten guys and you actually up guys, at the end of the roster, who there might be some team out there who thinks is worth even taking a flyer on at this point, you don't just have to outright cut in Dempster, looks legit right now, other than powerful word, a big Wing Rob. And the you things seem okay, you know, at all the other positions down to, at least a couple of guys, right? And that's and I get that like that was obviously a big need but like we've talked about a toast, guys are hard to find and made may have just not have been available this offseason certainly not the prices the price at the Celtics had to offer. So okay so let's pivot. Let's get off. You know, guys that along the margins that you know, can help us another areas and then you know, if we have to go double bags at times or, you know, just to take some pressure off at a table and for guarding those positions like grade or would just, you know, kind of adapting to fly and then when someone becomes available on that front will be able to, you know, try to pounce them if it if it happens. So yeah, I mean, they're going to be totally screwed anyway, if chain Mark Brown got her. So I mean, that doesn't really change like that, they don't have a decent backup power cord for that spot. Yeah. I mean there are many teams that can survive an All-Star, all NBA player going down. Anyway, them talking about just an elite few. And yeah, the Celtics aren't that that position. And for sure there will be nights where, again, it's hard to Judge Judy this where you have sort of situational stuff, and you aren't just falling into consistent patterns, and giving all the players consistency that they need to play a game. Get on a airplane that night fly to some other City wake up in the morning. Get you know forty-five a game play and do a walk-through play again. Like it's hard to to fall out of that but there will be nights where it's okay to play double Biggs because it's a whatever Thursday night and you're playing in wherever town, and they're playing double bass and so you can make it work, right? It's not like you can never do that and we're talking mostly about things that you envision being major problems when you get to the play-offs. But also this doesn't have to be their roster when they get to the playoffs, right? They could not get to the trade deadline and Bradley Beal isn't available. And so the conversations you have to have now about why you can't trade your first round pick go away because you could then can trade your first round pick. Because as soon as you get past the drop, you can trade all your phone number. Again, so you don't actually have to worry about some of those things when you get done the line where maybe you can't trade for Kyle Anderson or whatever right now, because you would have to give it the first, but the team is looking pretty good at the trade deadline wage and you know that the things that you're trying to do aren't available for you to happen right at that point so you can make other moves like that and try to resolve some of these roster holes that are playoff specific things for the playoffs when you get closer to the playoffs and like Thursday I believe is actually something I think maybe hurt the team a little bit and in Danny's later years is the GM where the team we've talked before about the trade balance of how they haven't made trade. Deadline moves, and part of that is because their team has felt very settled back end of the off season and that isn't necessarily the best thing. It's good for the first half of the season. It's good. You know. There's certain positive about it, but like being able to finish your roster later in the season, when you have some of the other questions or answer when you know who's healthy and who's not things. Like that can also like there are positives to taking that approach and and again that may not be the design right now but it could just sort of be what happens. Is that wage To that point. And they say, hey, look, we actually do have this first round pick that we're comfortable trading and we have this roster whole and the team is on Pace to win, you know, is to be the 3 seed and we're better than we thought and all that. And like, then you make that kind of move and being betrayed exceptional. So that's a decent amount. Yeah. Two of those and you may have somebody who falls out of the rotation because they just aren't quite the right fit. And then you have a, there are some moderate wage salaries on the on the team this year that we haven't had in the past down, you know, from done at five million up to to Richardson at 11 and like there are potential, you know, some flexibility in the roster that they're maybe hasn't been as much of a choice like that, that could obviously could come to nothing, but it's just, the kind of thing of like, you don't necessarily have to have your entire roster set on for game. One of the Season, you do have time to to let some things play out here. And so may as well do that as well. Let them play out unless I'm like amazing opportunity comes up between now and, you know, a month from now. I am still kind of shocked, dog. . But, getting Richardson for nothing, given that Dallas didn't do anything with their cap, or they obviously stayed over the cap. And I know they're probably angling for project. They were created for Valerie, but that given the market and stuff and I feel like Dad could go down as like a, a very nice win for them. Especially if he looks more, like he did in Miami days, just at that price. Yeah. It's another situational thing. Right? Like it's the same thing. We talked about shorter, where it's like, what else are you going to use this 6 million dollars for? Okay. Well, you get a guy who's, who's a good value Richardson probably paid roughly what you would expect them to be paid, but like you have trade exception. That's expiring right then. And so, do you let it go away for nothing or do you take this guy who had a decent amount of upside, who has shown a history of being a good player in the past, at that point, who fit more of a need than he does now, but, you know, it's still a player of especially cuz he's a little bit bigger than and somebody like sugar, who's like wage. Currently can play and to just get in for nothing. It's good business, right? It's sort of back to it's always right. The closer you get to the title of the harder. It is to be a GM, like the moves that you have to make become more restrictive and the decisions are all higher leverage stuff. It's a little bit back to like the sort of when you're, you know, Little Engine That Could you can make those moves like a look at what they did. They got Thursday for an exception that's about to expire and they were able to move Tristan Thompson and Kris Dunn was one of the best defenders in the league and looked and it sure they waited them out and like you can do all that kind of thing when you're thinking you're going to be a five-seater off 70, or whatever instead of trying to push on and actually win a title. So some of it is that as well, right? Like you always kind of can make yourself look better when you're in when you're in that situation with a little bit less pressure, but I think all the moves that they may have been completely reasonable somewhere between like, you know, underwhelming but fine too intelligent and and with someone else I'd like to see the scanner City for identifying. Yeah. Yep. Well exactly. But I mean like, for Horford is is fine. They had to give up a first-round pick you wish they didn't if they had that first round pick. Maybe they would have been receiving a result of other things. Have you seen a Turkish kid by the way? Yeah, I know he looks really good job. And there are people who really thought he was a big time Prospect. Obviously just statistically. There were other people who were, like, freaking out. We thought he was a terrible pick and all the stuff, whatever. But certainly like looked good creative and stuff and interesting. And, but even then, I don't know if they would have used that pick. They may have used that pick the, the whole power forward or something like that. So but the whole point is like that, trade isn't like dead. It's not like an A, but it's fine. Yeah, and Tristan Thompson trade is fine and signing enes, Kanter is what it is. It's a minimum, it's fine and then I think the Richardson and shorter signings are better than finally getting those are both are positives in terms of the risk, you're taking. So that's all, that's all good. And, and positive. And there's nothing that standing out as like, what are you doing? Why can't believe you're wasting this opportunity or dead? Is just bad money. Or there's none of that, that's that's happened. This offseason. And that's good. It's a step in the right direction, right? And honestly, I think the Thompson trade was a little bit of better-than-average. Okay. From a standpoint. I thought they were going to have to I know they had to take back, uh, a met contract and Chris done. But getting a second round pick out of that. Like I didn't expect him to do that. I like thought they may have to move a second round pick two months off them so that from that standpoint like maybe you know what that think is? It's like a 2023, like Portland technician like that at some random pick that at least not like a nothing. It's like a, it's a real. It's an actual pick. It's not predictable. I mean, it depends on what done is I was having this conversation online with somebody else today. It's like it seems like it's home run, but it's like if done is nothing, if does not playable, or if you end up, waving them or wage like eating five million dollars, like Tristan Thompson is well over paid at the money, he makes, but he's going to play this year. He's going to have some amount of her role somewhere and you may have taken back to guys who are just like, don't play at all in our techs, a log. And and so, like your incremental value of those contracts could end up being kind of a wash. But I think that's all. They certainly got more upside right now when you get a second round pick, but you also get a player and done who may very well be worth five million dollars even if not here to somebody because he is you know if he's healthy he is an elite defensive player and he does have some other skills unlike so I yeah. I mean I think the Celtics home likely did well in that but it's also possible. We look back at it and say like well it was it was nothing right? It was Tristan Thompson gave two million dollars, a value on a 97 contract and these other guys got paid 7, something, and gave her value in. Like, it's kind of a wash and whatever you moved around. A second round, pick that became nothing and it could be one of those traits such as eminently. Forgettable. That's most likely, which is why I say, it's just kind of like yeah, it's fine. But yeah. Faith Celtics got more more upside in the trade. All right, let's wrap things up with some some summer league thought, since there are a lot of guys who talked about here that we've seen plays first two games in Vegas club, Where do you want to start? But who, who actually matters to you most in these first couple of games, we've obviously seen an array of solid performances is is Nesmith. I think it's clear cut, like most important guy coming out of this. Is it blank for it or is it is it Pritchard? I think you can make a case for honestly, any little I think Nesmith is clearly the most important Pritchard has been the best of the three I suppose the nice Mets game in game two was was really exceptional for, you know, it's summer league. We all understand that, but some of the things he was doing really good meats. Mrs. Is the one who fits the largest need on the team. And so I think that's just clearly in the kind of kind of where he falls in and I know you were are there, but you were saying we're sort of running around during the game cuz there was news breaking in other things happening. So you were there. But didn't get to see every every minute of it going to see Romeo's junk and a couple other things but there's a lot of writing going on during during games. Yeah, yeah but Nesmith was legitimately impressive. He was what seven of nine from 3 or something along those lines off. But it was not 9. Standstill freeze, not by any means. Great. There were a couple off the dribble. He had a step back yet one where he, you know, sort of Triple Threat sidestep, you know, one dribble makes a side stage. Hit one, he had one, where he was sort of a trailer. It wasn't a fast break at all, but he was just sort of like, it almost looks like a design play where it was, like, slow down. Come up the court behind everybody else and Pritchard just turn around and, and tossed it back to him. And he, he drove up from probably three feet behind the line. Had a couple of really good movement shots. He had a couple of drives that were aggressive and and positive. He hit a really difficult little mid-range shot from behind the backboard. So it was a very impressive shooting outing but also impressive. In terms of the versatility of the shots, it was not. I'm standing in the corner and somebody is creating a form and kicking out to me and I'm hitting some open, you know, some pretty wide open a corner-shot. It was difficult shots that he was making and he looked clearly like the best player on the floor for that game. Curse word was good Bulbul was was quite good for the sort of Type of player that he is obviously stands out on the floor and the way he was playing, he was efficient. But yeah, Nesmith looked the best after in game one. I don't think he looked bad, the shots just didn't go in and it doesn't go in. I don't look very good but the fact that he's able to get up, he, you know, eight degrees and again with a decent amount of Versatility in there is really positive and now you take the the aggregate of that and he's you know, eight 4:17 a.m. from from 3 on some pretty difficult attempts in in a variety of different ways plus good stuff. Inside his defense hasn't been great. Yeah, I got blown by a few times I saw like they're dragging them in the bag, but that's again, if you if he's guarding Force which he might coming off the bench like that, hopefully is less of an issue. Yeah, I mean it's a little bit of I mean again it's summer league like how much of a camper is a that your second year player isn't playing like his Peak defense he also isn't flying around the court like a crazy person, right? But just going to need you think players smart get hurt doing that in some really going off. And will he can we got will he get that back in in the regular season? I don't know. Is it good if he does in the regular season? I don't know if he's going to be playing a real role then you don't want him risking life. And limb on every single 3% chance that an offensive rebound, his his own life and and his teammates lives and opponents lives. Pretty much. Everybody's lives around the court with the way he was playing last year. So we haven't been I've been sort of looking that sort of out of control and and crazy for all, you know, as endearing as it was. The big thing. Like I said is that he's taking difficult, interesting shots and has and now he's making them off. That's, you know, you can't really ask for any more than that, that out of him. Did you see any of those? I mean, you said, you saw a couple of years. I saw a few. Yeah, I did see there. A couple that, like you said, you were just like moving, like, kind of like, you know, the quick-release like moving to one side and still drawing. Those was like, well, and then again, 31 points and I looked up at the end of third-quarter is like 31 points and 17 minutes and I was like, oh okay like this song. Is, this isn't fooling around here. So, what's your point? This is this is like, okay, this looks like a number fourteen overall picked, which last year in and he's doing what he was drafted there for, which is a shooting. And so again, last year was a tough in for all these guys. You know, no training camp, no summer league or short training camp. Do some really just know, you know, kind of getting thrown into the fire and what was obviously a very bizarre season four thousand reasons. But for the development firm there I think you know, Lankford to a different degree. I mean, you get that crazy junk, but I think he's just looked solidly some more assured of his jump shot. Again, this is, you know, I think his defensive upside is, you know, better than these myths. But again just having these guys were chained, some you know, intrigued a potential is crucial. Now he's either for this team or in a trade down the line and I think again, you have to be happy with the Returns on that front. You know, again only two games in here but that's again, a good job. Yeah, I think the most important player is being Nesmith Langford and Pritchard have all sort of looked like what you particularly came to look, sort of like what you expect them to look like, for the real game, which is a positive. So like, what is Denise Smith? Doing he's running around, he is the focal point of an offense. He is getting in creating shots Langford has been more of a sort of affiliate wage, kind of guy, you know, his role and the team I think is more defensive at this point as a little bit of, you know, secondary playmaking sort of stuff spacing the core. And you know in the corner where like I was saying, you want Nesmith taking more difficult through Thursday is nothing Langford is really capable of doing that right now. If you're using a little bit more of his athleticism and and all-around game. And that's just not going to stand out as much on on the court. He hasn't so he hasn't looked as good. Now, is that concerning a little bit? It's a third-year would hope that you somewhere along the way here. He would also have a big, you know, twenty five point game or something like that. But he does look a little bit more, sort of like a fill-in, you know, he's sort of a gap-filler on the floor, where he's a little bit of a ball-handler, a little bit of a Defender and a little dog. Driver and he's making Corner threes and kind of that stuff, but it's not a fan of his game. But I think that's reasonable to think that, that would be more of the role, he would be playing for the for the real team and then Pritchard his game has changed obviously as the ball in his hands he's of floor space or he's taking a lot of these really deep freeze which are helpful for somebody with his sort of a little bit lack of athleticism. Be able to create more space by pushing back out but also anything had twelve assists, eight rebounds, you know, whatever that he's not going to get he's not going to be a big rebounder. But I think I've told us this in in the second game as well. And so he's getting in there. He's using the shot to create for others, running the offense. I still, I think that a lot of people have settled with the idea that he's almost more of a shooting guard on this team than a pure point guard, particularly with the wings, doing a little bit more playmaking and from that standpoint it's like really positive. You can stand four feet behind the three-point line and still has to be respected. And that's like a pretty big deal in terms of what that does for for space and yeah it just you know you have him on the right-wing, 350 on the line and you manage a Samsung Trying to drive in. Like there's no you can't collapse in on them nearly as easily and and neither of them are great. In terms of like ball strength with guys, trying to strip them coming from that side, like actually is kind of a big deal to have somebody over there who, who forces that help Defender to not be able to get there and open up that right hand drive for both of them coming off the left. And that seems to be something that Pritchard is like specifically. Like this is a spot that I need to be able to shoot from four feet behind the lines of the right-wing. It's like I kind of get where that, where that would come from. So all three of them like I said, I think I've looked good in terms of what you're hoping to get out of them not just in in some early but for the real team and that's all that you can hope for from from your other guys here we can talk about the other you know, madhar and well I you having just not as much there to run out especially if my daughter now that the Schroeder signing happens with our probably like was punching the best choice when this happened cuz I think his odds of you know getting the 15 spot on this roster are are gone now. So we just do by me. Again, he had a knife flashed in the first game. Didn't really do anything. And in game too. But, you know, the he clearly wants to come over this year and I assumed that they're not going to buy amount to put him on a two-way contract. Since that price doesn't make a ton of sense financially, unless I unless you get really, really looks good. It is is willing to do that. But yeah, I mean, if there is a like I said, if there is a consolidation trade in the works ERM then perhaps he wage benefits. If it's a, you know, 2413 purchase type situation and something opens up if they cut to Paris too, cuz I get someone in that deal, that replaces him. But if not, then, you know, you have a couple of intriguing guys overseas, too with him and beg her own. No idea if that's how right way to pronounce that name. But that's we're going to go with and yeah, I mean that's kind of how you go look. I I think that there's some it's hard for me to see the path for her mind are coming over right now for all the reasons that you said, there's also in that last thing like some small little thing of like, if you're trying to make a trade later, he's more money. Abel has a a stash rights player, then you would be as a two-way player. Yeah. So that may have some minor impact on something where you sort of feel good about the fact that he's still overseas. If you know, if you're trying to find the language little piece to make a trade work, you know, with the deadline or something like that. So it's interesting. I thought that that he did show enough to have some amount of intrigue. I think that first game, it was helpful wage going up against somebody who, you know, against sharife Cooper, who there are some, you know, does have some big fans around at least around draft Twitter, maybe not around the league so much. You wouldn't slid so far down the draft, but like I said, he's going to get somebody who like a name that people know as a point guard and kind of made him look bad a couple of times. Yeah, yeah. I thought was funny like I know Cooper hit the home, you know, twenty points and hit the game-winner in a second game. I thought it was terrible in the first game against the Celtics like righty. Threw the ball away. Twice on inbound, I was shocked. I know people game he couldn't even dribble when he was up against, you know, birth. Against two different Defenders. The Celtics had, you just took the ball away from it, a couple of times you look no threat to shoot and then he was creative. You know, there are some of the things that you see that are interesting in game two, he was clearly much better and and more assured with making a bunch of Threes And if you can make threes, he'll be an interesting player but I just thought against itself as he looked really like, I was watching him. I was like, what why are why does everybody about this guy? He's nothing going on. Exactly. I was shocked. Like when I moved our jobs like twice, literally just stonewalling him took it from them. I mean, like, well, I think who is this guy that after you were like yeah this is like going to be a steel and I'm like well he's really both inbound passes at the end of the end to lose the game, right? That was and he was like I said, the first thing was no threat from 3. I think you might like 5 4 8 in in the knesset and then made the game-winner. And that's obviously a game-changing skill for a lot of players. But I just thought it was was helpful to put down or up against a name player and you're not like against some point, you know. Twenty-six-year-old point guard who's assigned to a really has no chance of ever being an MBA or something like who's playing at? Somebody who who people know and who was interesting in khong. And looked good. Even in that, that short amount in that helps again for if somebody's looking for, you know. Oh, okay. Well, this second-round picks not valuable enough to make this trade. But what about that guy? You've got stashed. Would you like something like that? Could happen. But let me see an ending up on the team. Now, we were just talking about who they're going to have to get rid of to get down to Fifteen, right. And he's sixteen or Seventeen memory is on the depth or depending on where you think person Edwards. Is, you know, it's I don't really see much of a pop there, but still it's good to see anybody who's in the system. Have, you know, have any good moments that's in front of a lot of GM's and all that are at home better have that than go out and look like you're lost and Bruno. Fernando looks like, you might be better than Moses Brown. We'll see. And so that's for that standpoint. That's McLaughlin, yeah. Off the road Center on the roster so that that's one catch the ball. And it helps I think it helped like Pritchard and, and, and others to have somebody else a couple of I think those like, sort of, not the full On Tight Seal screens, but there were a couple of birth The the Nesmith groups where he got got in where you give a little bit of the credit there, at least a Fernando as well in the way he was taking up space. So, yeah, you looked like a player who's not out of depth in summer league, which is the Celtics Biggs in the first game looked like they weren't really meant to be on the floor in the first three quarters of a summer league game events, so that that hurt them a little bit read. All right, so yeah, that's the thing. We have a lottery Play 3. More games, which is feels like a lot, but that that's going to happen. Basically free more game. That's true. I know, I wonder if we've seen the last of Richard and Nesmith off to play one more game if that, but again, they've they've showed enough already where you maybe say. Okay, guys, let's, let's give yeah, my daughter, some some extra run and are there some early playoffs this year? I don't even, there's one. There's one day, just like a championship game and then there's like one, everyone's going to play one extra game which is a Play-Doh they don't have that whole bracket like know. Yeah, you know. Yeah the end and there's nobody playing and you know, it's the championship and there's no job. He was, anybody has ever heard of his playing in the game. It's not, we're not doing that whole thing. We're here, we're not doing that this year, that I think that is less than I suggested by the NBA in these times. So, yeah, but again, all through more games. So, we'll get probably a closer look at some of these younger guys with, you know, some of the older crew getting some time off, I assume Carson networks going to play the duration cuz they use probably blink for his job whether it's you're somewhere else, but we'll be back with you guys. Probably will say next week, I'm guessing with a wrap up of all some really good stuff but as always Ryan, thank you for helping board and make sure you follow him at danger cart on Twitter. And it's, we'll hopefully, this podcast will stay a little bit off more relevant than when Mike rich and I did about three hours yesterday before the, the sugar signing.

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Bucs 100% vaccinated and NCAA football returns

Debate Amongst Friends With Doc & Prof

10:19 min | Last month

Bucs 100% vaccinated and NCAA football returns

"What's up ladies and gentlemen doc leasing to hear the podcast beast here for friday. September third for debate amongst friends friday edition. That's where you're going to hear this at four. Pm eastern standard time Doing it solo today. Profit had to take the day off which is completely fine. That podcasting machine sometimes needs a break to lubricate thou wheels. But he'll be back here hopefully on monday. So we can get back to the reeds that you're so used to But really quickly here. The bucks announced my tampa. Bay buccaneers have announced that they are the second team in the nfl to reach one hundred percent vaccinated rate The atlanta falcons actually were the first team to announce that they had been fully vaccinated. The bucks become the second They were many players who obviously opted out they. They didn't want to do the testing that we mentioned a couple of days ago every single day which it seems the nba might take that same approach But i know several players were against getting the vaccine but for the greater good of the team. They decided to do it so it wasn't even really about themselves. It was for the greater good of the team. So you have to definitely respect that. I i know for one person in general who is really really against it. leonard for net He was definitely against getting the vaccine. By the end of the day it's eighteen. We schedule Unvaccinated players will remain subject to daily testing. And at this point it seems as though players just want to kind of move on and also care about the teammates not saying that if you're unvaccinated you don't care about your teammates but At this particular point is best to try to remove as many distractions as possible And we already know that the vaccine doesn't protect you one hundred percent from cove. I know that that's one of the things that a lot of people say but apparently it makes the i guess the opportunity. If you do get cove it lessens. The blow The previous strand and hopefully it can do the same with the delta variant. But the buccaneers become the second team to have one hundred percent vaccinated rate And of course the nfl released their league-wide which i believe they said it was ninety four percent. I believe it was which we kind of call. Bs if there's only two teams at one hundred there might be a few between ninety five and one hundred. But i highly doubt that that number is skewed so we might have to wait for that but in grasp the bucks hopefully it turns into a successful season for them. Being that they came together on this accord also nc double a.'s. Back has speaking velvet in going through different protocol. I almost had the privilege of going out to watch the. Nc state game avert south florida last night. Unfortunately i have practiced on tuesdays and thursdays with the ladies of the gridiron gang. His you heard last friday. I coach flag football. Here in raleigh. Durham area north. Carolina gridiron gang. We play on sundays. Brad creative you are in the area And you know it was a great interview. It was a great opportunity to talk about my girls A great opportunity to talk about flag football as a whole which is very very exciting But as exciting as flag football is college. Football is as exciting as well. Nc state destroyed south. Florida forty five to nothing Obviously again i was at practice. Didn't get a chance to watch it but devon leary seventeen to twenty six to thirty two yards two touchdowns with one interception But it looks as though the whole pack stayed on the ground zonneveld night sixteen carries one hundred. Sixty three yards and ricky pearson. Junior sixteen carries one hundred five yards so the local state boys brought it home I'm definitely looking to get to one of those dates As it would it would be awesome to see some of these. North carolina teams play. Uc davis east carolina Obviously do north carolina Even some of the other schools like north carolina central. I think at least one time that she. I'm gonna try to get to a while. These college football games But yet this is a weekend that college football returns Today we actually have unc. Play virginia tech duke playing charlotte old dominion playing. Wake forest kansas and south dakota. It looks like there's going to be a a host of games That are going to be played today. And of course tomorrow and through the weekend So definitely keep up with your favorite team I'm hoping that they have a successful season. I'm really looking forward to seeing some of the younger players play As well as some of the more experienced players play Obviously every year we look to see who is gonna be that. I guess that player where we see there. The maturation process take the next level. some like spencer rattler bryce yang and alabama j. T. daniels at georgia. You know these are the guys that were looking to see. Go to the next level Obviously the heisman. Odds are out Spencer rattler currently leads With clemson alabama. Georgia quarterbacks following The person with the lowest chances right now based on this particular website sports not dot com. Which is again just something. That i found brian ravitz enjoying it. Alabama has the lowest. But i believe that. Somebody's gonna come up out of nowhere. Just shocked the system here I love how there's no wide receivers is no defensive players It's all quarterbacks in and pretty much to running back so i'm interested to see exactly what happens in how this comes about. Uh so we'll have to wait and see but college. Football is back and hopefully it's better than ever. Now i did see nfl new nba news. Excuse me i did see that. It was a trade between the celtics and the grizzlies. But i'm not one hundred percent. Sure if that is actually a confirmed just yet Obviously there's going to be a more trays that are going to happen But the way that the trade is trending it. Looks like whoa. You're saying that juancho. Hernan gomez who is with the grizzlies and we talked about him. In his ability that we saw in the olympics is being traded to the celtics. Who are sending chris done in carson edwards to the grisly. So the grizzlies seem to beginning younger. Obviously they let rondo go. They let patrick beverley go. And now they're bringing in two different Two different guards. As i'm interested to see what memphis. What their strategy is They look like they're just making a lot of swaps. A lot of trays I was very excited about carson edwards coming out college if you remember carson edwards was pretty much lining it up from behind the art. Her do and i don't know if he ever really got a chance to really play in boston. The way he played in at purdue but then again a lot of people don't get that opportunity but for the celtics Last year lease he did average about almost nine minutes per game for points Almost one rebound per game. So he didn't get a lot of plan time. Hopefully with grayson allen leaving the grizzlies amongst others maybe carson edwards and kevin dunn. Who a skinny. Chris done Who also used the play well in chicago. Hopefully this can be an opportunity for them to reenergize or just a good restart I think a lot of teams are starting to jock positions and build their depth. And i think behind john moran chris done in carson edwards as a as a pretty good start So we'll see how that goes but just a quick episode here on friday september third or four labor day. I hope you'll have a safe and happy labor day. you know. Catch the deals catch sales if you need to As well as. I know a lot of people like to grill grill safe drink responsibly. And have fun. But i know you heard this podcast on your favorite podcast platform. If you didn't you can always go to our website at. Www dot debate amongst friends dot com to listen to this episode as whether it's all of the previous be show tune in next week as we over the news the analysis and.

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625 : Go West, Young Men!

Celtics Stuff Live

58:33 min | 9 months ago

625 : Go West, Young Men!

"Right there off Thursday morning normally get a lot of stuff lying on the ceiling s media Network the leading online provider of audio and video coverage for the Boston Celtics John and Justin here. Once again, we didn't take an extra week off John back-to-back weeks for sticking to the plan and crazy. It's only about two games. But but we're sticking to the plan and it's it's it's a pretty good plan. The only thing wrong with this plan is the Celtics haven't won a game since the last time we came on this show. Yeah, it's not the way it's sung. Or it's supposed to be like more wins and losses and and all that. They won the last two before or less show then they lost too. So they're now going to go on the road and really tough road trip. I'm thinking if this alternating weeks of like wins versus losses. They have like four games again before we play before we were probably were likely to record again. So maybe that means they went off for maybe the only choice Motors place cuz two shows ago displaced. Yeah. So that's the way it should work. I think I think that I just hiding too. It's just masked hashtag math on that one is what I am going to hash tag that map but but I set it off Media, I think hey kids, how do you do fellow kids tagging with my fingers right now, you know God Thank you so much younger just to hear that. Yeah. Yeah, I everybody knows where the young, you know upstart podcast off a couple fresh freeze fresh face Labs on the new on the beach trying to cut their skin. This wild Wacky World of podcasting. It'll be great. If you again God has never happened never happened let a bunch of internet people real real stars Thursday. We're reformed credentialed people. I mean that's that's kind of where we are. We're reformed. We're just you know, we're in reform school probably. But anyway, oh man look but speaking of Reform this team needs a little bit of reform because yeah, they went on to you know, I don't think the Laker game was a bad loss. Is a lot of positives to take from that loss even though my Twitter mentions was absolutely filled with people convinced that Kemba Walker is the second, he is the Antichrist I think is, you know bent on world domination and ruining their lives. I'm not really sure what people expecting a Kemba Walker at this point in time, but he missed a shot and he didn't score a lot of points against the Lakers so immediately he's a bomb almost four and he can't do anything. I mean sure but he's still going to shake that rust off and I think the more frustrating thing is watching spark go down with this injury, especially because he's doing a probably the best job he's ever done in his career with Distributing. He filled in in Walkers absence Walker looks like you got the spring in his step, but he's got a lot to get back to you know, I think playing at the level everybody really wants to see him play. Maybe smarts injury helps expedite that Well, maybe but also I think oh the inspection of my voice there's doubt. I thought you were were Swedish or something. You kind of turned me be you know, I thought you know, that's how anyway I'm not yeah. No, look, I think that there yeah, there's we've talked a lot about this about how they're all going to meld together. And I don't believe that Marcus is this, you know Force bent on destroying the offense and and out for himself. I don't believe that but I do think that him not take those shots those ten twelve fifteen shots and dispersing those to Kemba and some to jail and it's under Jason. I think that's going to allow everyone to kind of mesh back in together a little bit easier on this West Coast trip. There have a lot of games in short-run Campbell's not playing back-to-back games, but I think wage A really good opportunity to get Kemba Walker back where they need them to be and and hopefully blending into what these two guys are doing because from what those two were doing against Gallagher's I mean they got just a little bit of a Kemba Walker ten twelve points. They win that game, you know that those two were judging the way that they are it does make you feel a little bit better wage, but geez could we just have a season without piling on with the injuries and we went out and got some vets but it's looking like Tyce really should be the starting center, which is a little scary thinking about next postseason. But then you watch that Lakers game and you think oh, maybe we're going to be okay cuz that's the team that you had earmarked for why we would need that size if we get if we get to the finals going to need some help there, you know Thompson will still be able to give us a little bit but I thought twice did a great job in in the Lakers match up and you know how quickly I was willing to sell. Him to the bench in favor of Thompson when the when the season was starting but you know watching it now, it's just I wish he would just get a break from the officials and there are definitely times where fouling I'm not trying to say that Tyce doesn't you know have some moving screens or he does try to make up with his size with the moves in the post, you know, some grab a pen and they're they're definitely fouls there. But there's also some really ticky-tack ones that are ludicrous and if you got a break, I think I'd feel a lot better in the postseason with him there. But time Lord, you know, he's out there playing pretty well loved that passed from from Tatum. The behind-the-back that was that was awesome. But I guess I'm just a little concerned about a quart with all these injuries because Peyton Pritchards out Marcus Smart's out can we can't play the second night of back-to-backs makes me a little concerned that the record is going to continue to slip. Yeah. Yep. No, absolutely. They're thin. I mean there's you know, if you if you like Carson Edwards if you're if you're buying person Edward stock maybe now is a good time. I don't know but you're right words will get lots of minutes. But well, maybe this is what gets Teague, right? Who knows we talked about the fact that team leads the ball in his hands. The problem is I just don't know how he got brown and Tatum involved, but maybe that's what he does need. Maybe he has to be out there with those guys and the message kind of gets sent that he's not just going to be a long War when it comes out on the floor that he's got a facilitate a little bit more. I don't know because I don't I don't see how you let Carson Edwards like who's your starter at point guard? Well, well, so in the non Campbell games you're saying. Yeah, I think they do start seeing for now. I mean, it'll be interesting to see who goes on the road trip right page. Will they even bring Payton Pritchard will even bring Marcus, you know, if they if one of them doesn't go or whatever or both of them will go it's going to be rough, you know, but but yeah, I think you're right you got to start team, but maybe you don't actually you know, that saying that let me back up a second. Maybe you actually start someone like person Edwards, you know thousand and you just know that you're going to facilitate from jail and Jason. I mean, maybe that's where you are at this point. You're just going to come out there to are you in Carson out Thursday or Friday. I just come on. It's so similar, you know, you just have person out there to fulfill have to facilitate but just as the shooter and and posing Point Club. Think over the last couple of years, you know, this is when they give the ball to Hayward. Right, right. Exactly. Yeah, right, you know that's that was the slot that he really helped fill when when they've got a little when they got a little lean in the backcourt they could lean on him a little bit. So it's not going to I mean Brown might bring the ball up a lot but Brown's not going to facilitate the offense. It's going to put a lot of pressure on take off. I think yeah, so they've got a back-to-back that they play The Warriors in the king's table on. Well, no, excuse me back up. They don't have they play War years Tuesday. They play the Kings on Wednesday. So there's a back-to-back there that will yeah, you're going to one of those games. I'm guessing the Kings game. You're going to probably have caught sight words, right? You're going to have you know, maybe you do have t but it just seems like if you enjoy my Waters get some run. I think he has to I think is too I mean How do you know you're not going to play Keep 30 or 40 minutes? I think we're arguing whether I'm seeing should be playing ahead of cursing Edwards at this point. I think there's an argument whether or not he should be playing at The Tremont Waters Edge. He's so bad so bad. I mean, it's just there's no Redemption people want to talk about Tristan Thompson, at least he's moving up and down the court and it feels like there's some sort of understanding as to why he's been he's getting the rebound still. He's just yes. So fluid on offense. Yeah, but I think that that's wage. I'm I'm I don't think he was in good shape. He didn't have training camp at all. I'm willing to give him some time, you know. All right. Let's see where he is the end of February, you know for sure. We're still in March and we're having this conversation, you know, and we're leading up to the trade deadline. Well, then maybe you do cut bait on your on your mle signing which would be pretty tough. But yep. At the same point what else do you going to do? But but I don't think we're there at that point. She has been a disaster my mind. I think he's been an unmitigated disaster after opening night there shouldn't so well against Milwaukee he he has been just awful. I mean, there's no other word for an awful. So yeah, I want to see what car side works as God. I want to see the trailer water just got against the cake. You know, that's that's tough going up against dearon Fox but I mean, hey we going to do you going to say you're going to put you against Steph Curry, it seems like that's a tougher took a tougher match. So I think your best bet is to do that. I also think your USC severely Smith, you know, I think you you let the some of the playmaking decision-making come from date of a break at this point and you know, maybe you know Nesmith is getting some minutes in there that other guard it's it's going to be crazy without without seeing Marcus Smart because he dead Allow you to fit them and so in different spots that you know, you don't have that Flex weird, you know positional issues. Well now without game I guess took for the Kings game without Kemba and smart boy things get them fast. So it's it's going to put a lot on these young players and that's the thing these young players have to walk so that they can they can compete with consistency and if they can that's why I didn't mind you know them see what brand going thirteen, you know, playing thirteen players or players in the first half against San Antonio. These guys are earning it. They have a good run against Chicago and Cleveland. Why not? Give Aaron he's spent some time out there. Why not get Carson them in Edward sung up there. Those guys have to show they get on that time if they're not if they're not able to earn time. Then what's the point right? You need to do that to keep them in duston so that way when they are hitting and they can start building. Off these good performances, then you've actually got something that's how you build, you know, successful players. You don't just do it when the bench an open practice things were going to take care of themselves out. They just don't it doesn't work that way. Yeah, it's not going to work that way for Teague either. He's done. It does seem like it doesn't it? I mean, that's the thing. I mean but as much as he may be done, I've told you this I just don't see Carson Edwards and and Tremont having a long NBA career either they're not bad. But like if there will just see if they hit their shots in the starting lineup and maybe maybe that'll change, you know, but they're going to have to be able to shoot the three-ball and a really high percentage to be out on the floor really for any meaningful minutes throughout their career. Yeah, and I think that I mean I think Fremont I'm just I don't I don't know how long has the size to do it the size and and not you're not just saying hi Q mean physical size. You just isn't on the mask. Yeah, I get where you're comparing him to Carson cuz cars. Since course is pretty strong. You know, he's kind of yeah, there is a reason his his nickname is beef bullet. So, you know look person a guy he's got something there is still a short arms and his his scores mentality has been one that you know, he needs touches to be who he can become but maturity is is is what is fixable. It's malleable. I mean, they're guys who you know, PJ Tucker was a completely different player when he came from Texas than what he is off. Now, you know guys change roles and guys can become different things for their own Survival in the league. I'm not going to I'm not going to write them off what I'm going to say. It's an uphill fight for Carson net worth every day. Yeah. This is going to be an ugly stretch when Kim was not playing and even then maybe when he is but you know, they've had some some runs and some stretches. Where they were deep in the bench and they got some wins, you know depends on the matchup. So I guess I don't know if they'll always play Walker on the first night of a back-to-back. I could give him the first night off depending on matchups. So if we go through this like definitely The Kings games the one he sits right, but I'm trying to pull up the schedule. What are the what's the next back back after that? So that's their home. We can look at Pritchard as you know, possibly starting to contribute minutes again, but on this road trip, yeah, they don't have enough money back to back on a road trip. That's the only back-to-back on the well, then that survivable it's definitely a survivable it's not until they they come home and they they do have a back to back in two weeks from Sunday or excuse me, Tuesday, Wednesday, the sixteenth and Seventeen. Yeah. I think I think Richard will be back by then. I was just one table for tomorrow. Nothing. Yeah, right. Well I said you said what two weeks maybe three weeks is kind of where they're Landing now. Yeah, and and the concern is though is with that injury. It's the type of thing where you can easily pull it. So I think they're going to be cautious extra cautious on it if they give Payton Pritchard back for that stretch at home like once they're at home and then get Marcus back maybe a week or two after that. That would be the key is them staying healthy, especially as we talk about this on the last show towards the end of the season when the games are packing in a little busy cuz they're going to have make UPS has there been any talk about how they're going to do the make-ups. They just going to attack them on at the end of the year or they will know they they reshuffled some for that week. They reshuffled the schedule of that kind of Valentine's day a week. I guess here in Maine. It's Christmas take their Christmas. It's February vacation week, so they wage. They kind of read juggle the lineup and the schedule that week trying to fit some games in but also, you know, this is we only know the schedule at this point up till Thursday, you know the end of February and then or I guess early March 4th of March and then after that point, there's going to be a new schedule that's going to be released for the remainder of the Season Sean D at a great sweet kind of showing like, okay. Well who does the salt with a solid stuff left to play and you look at that schedule it's cake. I mean, it's really a pretty easy schedule for the Celtics the remainder of the way, so if it feels daunting in the beginning and you know, all this is going on and boys, it's been tough. I think I think that bears itself out. I think once we start to turn into that second half of the schedule if the schedule keeps looking the way that it has so far. I think it actually gets a lot easier for the Celtics the remainder of the way and wage Just cuz of that own it's I don't know how the opponents was that on Friday night. Is that why I missed that the changes related in Washington here. I thought it went on this weekend. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I think it was Friday night. I think that's how I missed that yeah Friday morning. Actually probably Friday morning. I don't know how I missed that. But anyway, they fit in Washington. I see that. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, that's I mean, I think that there's going to be there's going to be you know, the rest of this month is going to be tough. I mean that let's let's just make sure you say I mean to go on the regular West Coast Road Trip is a challenge in a covid-19. It's doubly difficult. I mean, you can't go to your lot. You can't you have an hour basically to go out for physical activity to go back to your room. So like lose covid-19 is as we're supposed to be for the next I think two weeks. So I think throughout the body through a bog. Trip they're going to be really in locked down. They're going to be basically in a bubble throughout this West Coast trip. So, you know the Warriors the Kings the clippers off the sun's the Jazz have been really hot. I mean that's that's five challenging games the kingdom left so certainly but but the other form in the Warriors, you know, there's obviously without without clay, but that's that's a tough trip and the Clippers have have really started to come on as well. So this the latter half of the schedule and this is on a trip. It doesn't get any easier. And so I I just I worry about about that end of it, but I'd have to hear my kids yell in the background but it's a song. Yeah. Yeah, that's hilarious. Yeah. They're they're killing somebody on fortnite or it sounds all audit uni, so I thought it was like a baby, but now I get it there yelling at gaming system. That's great. Yeah, you're right. There's this this trip is going to be tough. The whole first half of the schedule is going to be rough and then we'll have to we'll have to pray a little bit that they're healthy and they can kind of make a you know, a little bit easier way towards the postseason and talking about that rest. So they so they stay that way I guess that's the biggest key. All right, I want to talk about. Oh, go ahead. I was just going to say and that's why Pritchards returned is so important just to keep you out the key on what you did said. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's all I got well even just the his play has been so I'm ready if he could come on it wouldn't have been so important but he basically leapfrogged teak. That's that's that's saying something but nothing that nobody else hasn't noticed. Everybody gets on the everybody is on the 8 Mile train. So the Superbowl is here and you can get in on all the action at BetOnline Tampa Bay the fog First team in history to play for the title on their home field is currently a 3 and 1/2 Point Underdog against Kansas City looking for back-to-back titles for the first time in almost two decades and God. I hope they lose. It's the goat against the next in line and bet on line has hundreds of props on the game including game MVP margin of Victory and even the length of the national anthem. How about Alan John always available online or on your mobile device BetOnline visit them today BetOnline your online Sportsbook experts and don't sit on the sidelines anymore. Get in on that action. Don't forget to use our promo code clns 50 to receive a 50% Welcome bonus with your first name. Is it that online your online Sportsbook experts? So John the rumors are out and this this is Shiro may this is one of those one of these teams has interests and they're trying to play them all off each other as if they all have interest but the JJ Redick rumor who's actually a guy think I brought up wasn't it last show. I brought up JJ Redick. It said it would it'd be nice to have some veteran shooting. He is getting a little long in the tooth. You certainly not going to have anything defensively but there is something about this rumor that feels a little more agent manufacturer. It's just the way that they're trying to only Target that Northeast right? That seems so weird to me. Well, that's his offseason home is in Brooklyn. So that's why I asked you know, he wants to get home and and like you said, it's it's clearly from the agent too. He he is not headed GJ is not a good year, you know, he's career lows in, New Jersey. Everything yeah, you realize how bad the three-point shooting will it's under 30% I mean you would think you would at least be able to set shoot a little bit better than that regardless of the defense and everything else like that is shocking to me. Maybe it's just a small sample size and bad fit on the team. Like I just chased 29 something percent. Yuck. What the hell? Yeah. I I you know, so he's making like thirteen. Yeah, when you're making thirteen million and you're shooting that I mean look could could JJ Redick of two years ago help the Celtics. Absolutely I could help but there's a question of you know, what do you what do you not going to be able to compete for for other players by by using them to acquire them? And what's the market? You know, you look at the Northeast? Okay. So what really does Brooklyn have left to turn you know, what choice? Is you know Philadelphia to have left and really what are the Celtics needs? I mean, yeah, Jacob help. They certainly need shooting. They you know, frankly right now you can plug them in and maybe he can at least bring the ball up but I don't know that that would be the first thing. I don't know that he would be somebody would be in my top twenty list maybe of guys I I mean the other choir to me, he's a bio candidate. That's why that's may be looking down from Virginia rennick. Yeah, I think he is a buyout candidate. Would you want to store them on the bench in lieu of a carsen Edwards or a Trayvon headed into the into the postseason though, not necessarily training and try to have a big role but somebody who could come in and a couple of key situations. Well, that's it. That's what and that's what that means needs. You know, that's why I look at I look at the trade deadline as the the opportunity to not only maybe get somebody but but open up a couple of roster spots and maybe you can you can bring in some veterans to fill up the back end of the bench. Yeah, I think that's what they need. I think they need to have a couple of those guys who they can count on at the back there regularly Jeff Teague if he's the 15th man on this roster. I am not worried about that. That did not bother me. What bothers me is the seventh man, you know, that's the concern, you know, and the fact that Peyton Pritchard is LeapFrog them, you know, I'd love to see them. Play leapfrog him that you know, I don't I don't concerned about having you need to have a certain number of veterans on your team. You know, you need to have those guys who've been there done it who can show the kids how they how they they can grow and how they can compete but our part of it. They're not distracting to the overall message. The way Kemba Walker is with Jason in jail. And I mean, that's the time a veteran leadership greedy didn't Tristan Thompson's leadership with his championship pedigree and having been there and done that before, you know, they need jephte that there's nothing wrong with having that's the problem is that the Celtics bench is full of kids and you've gotta hope that you know, hope and promise of what those kids could provide is great. But how much is that provided to Jason Jalen to help them win money, you know you hope they can play and perform. But to me, I think really the the likely outcome is most of those guys are not going to hit. Yeah former, you know, wait that long. First routers second round pick. I mean, it's just it's a it's a good gamble to have it could be any age over the course of full season. But if you have a chance to win the championship or or get to the faith, you're gonna pass that up because you know, you didn't have a veteran or two who could Kristoff the end of your bench that would that that seems to be in this situation and what we saw for that Lakers game that seems to be a poor decision this point. Yeah, you're right they need they do need some vets. So ours. Is there anybody you're targeting? Is there anybody that you think is available that they they should get are you thinking they need more Wing depth? I mean right now we got an issue with you know with injuries, you know in the backcourt, but is that something that where the need is here or is it is it the wings cuz I feel like you're been we talked about Wing depth before the season started, but I feel like when you start calling for nice massage Then you know, even when we see ojeleye comes in with smart being out and really helps the Celtics defense. They were down by 7 with what like 90 seconds left against the Lakers and the wage on back in. I mean, I mean even Walker as much as you want to kill him, he made a good defense of play to even be in position to take the winner. They've kind of let that game Slide Away. Honestly, they were lucky to get back into it and they really did anchor down on D. But do you think the wing depth is is as big of an issue as it was, you know, is that where you're looking you still looking for shooting or you're looking for more defense? What do you think? Well, I think that's the biggest question. What is the biggest need? You know, can you can you conceivably get someone I mean, let's look at let's look at last year's playoffs, right? You know, the team is is really not that much different. I think you can call for a little bit more from from your bench from your your wage. You're young players that you did last year. But what what did you have? What did that experience tell you Titus was overmatched at times? Yes off your best Gordon Hayward scoring and playmaking. Yes, but you know, what can those teams add? So to me like it's worth. Can you get another Defender another Wing Defender? So the jail and Jason don't have to do as much can you get some scoring so that those non-wage? Yeah. Those non bench does 9 2 Star units from you know, when it's it's Jason and the bench as opposed to, you know, a chemist in jail and or whatever that is, whatever that makes it. Well, there's only one of them on the court. They need some help is what I'm saying. So what can they do to help in those instances? Can they get some scoring so that you know, there is somebody a second option and those minutes for jail and ask for Jason. Have you to me like that's the that's like the the balance right? There is like is it a defender or is it a scoring, you know well, which are you can't afford it might as well. Yeah, and is it a role player or is it a somewhat Dynamic shift, right or are you one of those guys that's pining for Beal even if it costs Walker like that? Like, where do you do you even think that's a possibility because going big without giving up brown or something, you know is another way to to create to correct that issue. Do you think but who's I mean, okay, so if you give up, let's say you give Kemba to get be home. I don't know if it's going to take a lot to get deal. Yeah, if you give Kemba what do you consume art be your point off to see the starting point guard on a championship team and and other enough balls to go around a veal tatem Brown team. Yep. Yep. That's my question. But I will say this I think there's plenty of balls to go around and I think smart will be more than happy to distribute to those three other players and potentially defensively you're stronger, right? So I I just don't know how smoothly the offense runs but I don't know that the offense is really running that smoothly wage Walker leading it. I think it was going pretty darn. Well when smart was leading it even when there were some lesser pieces out on the floor with him, even when the injuries were deep, don't you dead? I mean, I think I think it's I think we need to wait and see I think that you know things were doing fine before jail and Jason kind of rose up and and you know come back, you know, obviously his injuries kind of slowed things down. So we need to see what is fully healthy integrated doing just fine kind of walk or look like now to Jalen and Jason being among the best Duos in the whole league. You know, what does that look like? It does it does it have to be neither or is there something else that that we're missing? Yeah. I'm still in wait-and-see mode on that. You know, I think that I just think I don't move my cost smart to honestly sure. Right, right. So Payton Pritchard starting and then like it just I just don't see the path to the bill thing. And I don't know do you who's going to guard the other team's best score is that Jalen's job now, so he's down off the left and then the answer is smart coach every that just doesn't seem I want to say it's a bad idea, but it just seems like You're asking him to do more than maybe you should be but yeah, I don't know. I I just I look at the team right now. I clicked they have enough in the starting group home. I think how do you augment that like, how do you I think part of the reason Tice didn't look good is because he was he was really asked to do a lot more than he needed to obviously this hurt. So he had to get off clean up with the neon there. After after the season. I think that ice Thompson Rob Williams situation is going to be good stuff. I think that's good enough. I don't think they need to improve the center position. I mean, I think they could you know it for me unless they ship one of them out. That's the issue because I do think needs time. I agree with you, but there's going to have to be a third Center on the roster like, you know, I don't know that it's Taco, but you're going to need another dog. I fill out in terms of roster spots and maybe it's someone left service or somebody you don't get time to maybe it's a vet new Dewayne dedmon fills that spot that doesn't play much and you give them the time to two of them, but I think that there's the I agree I think too there's room for two guys and a third guy who fills in when there's injuries or foul trouble or whatever right now there to those three or to close in terms of the pecking order to be able to easily divided minutes there. I agree with you there. I just don't know if they can extract enough value from one of them to put them in trade to be able to then, you know make up for something lost. That's the that's the concern I have but to me if the question of that that question of Defense vs offense, you know, if you go out and get an Aragorn who just turned his ankle be out for six weeks off. You're giving up something on the offensive side, but he clearly has enough ability to be a starting-caliber player now can afford him. What do they have to give up together their own know as opposed to say Harrison Barnes definitely a score but you see going to be in your clothing line up. I don't think so. I don't see a way in which you you have Harrison Barnes out Thursday when you have Kaden Brown, you know and Kemba and entice you're going to want smart out there instead cuz you're going to need the defense. So it's you know, it's this thing where the issue is defense as as on the whole has not been good enough and so part of an issue, but you do you agree the issue is consistency because there are churches were there like awesome and they really lock it down, but then there's others when you know, they're just I don't know if they're slow on the road probably a variety of reasons, but yep. Many times has effort, you know been the the the call out, you know for the team. It's not ability. It's not see this is where the whole missing piece thing comes into play off with the question. There really isn't a missing piece and maybe that's the veteran presence that even if they're the 15th man. If they've been there more people to talk them through, you know walk out of that slump that efforts lumper miscommunication slump or whatever is going on, but it just seems like in this came up a lot last year to it just seems like life that that consistency Factor just isn't always there could also have to do with the fact that they've got this revolving door of players in the rotation again, you know, they also don't have a very inconsistent rotation right now. But but that goes back to the I think relative flatness of of talent or production. Once you get outside the top six or seven months, you know, I mean, that's why I don't it doesn't bother me that Brad went to twelve deep because can you tell me the difference between what you get from these V versus, you know, Javonte home. Yeah, you know different abilities, but you don't really get a difference in contribution, you know Network Fusion. They just a little something different to the table Grant in play it all in the first half. Right, but he keyed some of the better lineups of the second second half of that game, but Grant has been probably system lie, I'd say the worst player of weight. I mean he really has been bad. So it's it's a really tough decision. I don't like the 13 players. I love to have a tight not attend a rotation wage. And you stick with it, but that's not this team and and frankly you want their team because you want the guys this is about building those young players up. This team is going to react how good they were with Jaylin Jason at the Forefront. We need Kemba to be on on the level but this team is all going to go the only going to be able to go so far unless Jayla Jason have the range is around them and they need carsen Edwards to some degree. They need these 50% agree. They need Grant and you'd Romeo they need those guys have to step up or they're gone and we get veterans and and the few young players left also need to step up because that's how you build a winning teams is your faith throughout, you know, losing that Miami game 6 it wasn't because you know, you know, Jimmy Jimmy Butler was just amazing. Out there in the s b m had his you know, freezing take over stuff but it was you know, Andre iguodala's threes that littered throughout that game. You know, I mean those things are the kids are those are the backbreakers, you know, it was Kelly Olynyk 27 points against Washington, you know, it's the other players sometimes. I mean you need to rely upon you're going to get your twenty-five from the song maybe 30 35 from the stars. But are you going to be able to get that unexpected 12 that unexpected can leave like five boards and two seals, you know, those are the those contribute contributions from the bench players from from the supporting players are the things often push you over the top and I don't think you can say, oh we're going to get that from Preston Edwards from Javonte green so I don't I don't like yeah, but that roll of the dice a strong. Yeah, you're talking about that roll of the dice, Georgia. You know On Any Given night, who's it going to be this tonight? Who's going to be this? That's very challenging for a coach. I mean I realized Brad does a decent job, but that's not that's not easy because every minute you're trying to figure out who's going to give you what you want. You're losing ground against your opponent. And and it's more likely you're going to get that from Harrison Barnes. You're going to get that production Harrison Barnes. You don't get that from from Aaron Gordon. I guess, you know, that's why the long so Gordon Hayward hurts, but it remains more of a theoretical loss than actual loss because while we see him scoring right now, he's playing great and Charlotte good on you dude, but but my man my man like we went to the playoffs three years and the only time you were out there is off when you were play with Kyrie and that last revised season of 2019. So to sit here and be like, oh, you know, it's you know losing a Jordan Heyward is a killer loss like dude. We've been there it were over that. It's just that was that's a song cost. We're we're over that. So what can we get who can we bring a dog? What's your alternative? You know if we get Harrison Barnes and he plays every game and and only gets paid sixteen Seventeen eighteen million dollars, but scores averages. Let's say fourteen points in the playoffs. That's more than we got from Gordon Hayward last year, you know, I mean, that's that's what I'm talking about is it's it's consistent effort wage in that, you know, third fourth fifth spot, you know, and I think what I'm what I'm trying to figure out and I haven't really figured out I want to hear what you think because honestly I'm kind of in the thing about it. I want scoring I love the idea of having somebody who's kind of a low-usage scoring guy, but can get a bucket if you need it as a secondary guy. What part of me feels like I want a Gala Gordon Hayward. Excuse me. Aaron Gordon's boy. That's just for your slip. I want hearing Gordon hearing a Gordon Hayward. That's not the way I want. I want I want to be a game. I want Eric Gordon because I wanted a fender who will take the other teams Wing, you know, I don't want Jalen, it's Jason chasing, you know, these guys I want I want to say I want that guy on Gordon to be the guy who's facilitating rebounding and taking care of that guy in freeing up Jaylin and Jason to do a lot more, you know offensively that's that's kind of what I want to see you know, but wage that's assuming that the relative costs somewhere but I mean, what do you feel like, what did what do you think they need in terms of not just just not just that that bottom of the roster dead. But but what do they what do they add to this team pushed the next level clutch some other sports? Yeah, they know they need somebody who's clutch pack. They they need guys that can make winning plays and come off the bench to do it. That's kind of what I was getting at with that revolving door with your right choice. Go twelve thirteen deep because you don't know what you're going to get from X on any given night and you're not going to know who's hot and sometimes you're going to play the matchups wage doesn't mean the problem with young guys filling out the end of your bench, especially when you get to the postseason is the fact that they just haven't been there before and you don't know if you can count on them to make the big play and I think at this point like they'll make their way through the season they're going to have to deal with what every other team is going to have to deal with which is injuries off. I do feel like Tristan Thompson has clutch in him and he will come up with clutch plays but they just need more of those guys. They need to they need the PJ crowns. They need guys that maybe you're not going to get a solid 12 minutes out of them. But if you need them for two minutes, you're going to get exactly what you want out of them for two to four minutes. And I really feel like that's the problem with having a young bench, especially later on. And that's the I understand. Why did Amy I understand why Danny didn't want to argue with throwaways pix you show up to 364 David Burke hands or you know, some of these guys crazy number of pics being offered now, maybe the value of or individual papers higher, but unfortunately that'll Boston's you know load of pics is gone. So what's the alternative you got a boost the stock of each of these players. You have to get its highest possible stock or Grant Williams Romeo and all these guys, you gotta try to make them players, you know, that's that's the only way to turn some of this back into something that makes sense. I mean, you got two guys to guard or you can do that. Maybe Grant Williams, you know, but I'm just not sure that you can do Thursday. But they got this trade player exception right traded player exception and that's really where the possibilities lie take on a little extra salary maybe more often you want and maybe even throw in a pack, you know that kind of a thing but something that doesn't necessarily cost you your assets players got value for the home team. Maybe they're on a short deal, you know, everybody wants to use that traded player exception to bring on another, you know Superstar type thing, but they just don't really have the money for that. Anyway long-term, you know that was going to be an issue with keeping Gordon as well. You know, fortunately we have Jalen and Jason locked up, you know, but we've got Walker on a pretty sizable contract. You don't think they were going to be issues if they re-signed Hayward with rounding out this bench, you know, you have four players and everybody else on their rookie deal. You weren't would have been too hard to keep smart might have pulled that off. That's it. You know Rob Williams doesn't stay any you know, Nesmith isn't going to end up staying in Prichard isn't going to end up staying you're going to have a revolving door of draft picks. And and one of them to have to be in your starting five most likely in that scenario. So I kind of think, you know, why not use that traded player exception and bring somebody in who can who can be a big impact who might be slightly overpaid. I just don't know who that is right now because going back to your point. I don't know how you I don't know how you feel. How you figure out what they need, you know and you almost just going to have to take if somebody comes available like that, or you can get them on a deal cuz they're slightly overpaid. You just got to take it and run with it, you know guys like Steve Adams, you know, Steven Adams come up all the time. And that even though he's got a lot to give right but his contracts pretty sizable, isn't it? Like off once it's pretty high. I don't think they would I don't think anybody it's probably above our trade-in player exception honestly, but just thinking like players like that who have a really high salary that especially if they're not performing this here. Maybe they just you know, their team isn't going to go to the postseason and you know and and their contracts coming up and then the boss wants to do more of a restart. Like I think that's where these Opera where the opportunities might be, but I haven't really done any research to figure out who fits that bill. Well, Aaron, Gordon doesn't honestly right so well, yeah, I mean, I think Aaron Gordon is more of the kind of Mark smartish kind of facilitator rebounder does the other things too, you know wouldn't play Central the issue is here in Georgia 25-26. Does she have the mentality right now to be that guy on a winning team, you know, is he ready to to not be the star who gets the points, you know, he's been in Orlando and on some pretty bad teams. He might be ready for that. But you know, I don't know the answer that in terms of what his skill-set is wage should be able to be it would be perfect. But I'm not sure where they're with him right now. Harrison Barnes is probably the other major guy again a guy who's dead. Contract is going down. But Team USA guy was on those those Warriors teams has that pedigree, but he's twenty-eight. He's a little bit older. He's played on a bat a lot of bad team to lock the Warriors. Maybe he's ready to kind of be a little bit of an elder Statesman type. But again, he's low-usage. So what that's what I like about him is low usage. He's an efficient scorer in a super-efficient score, but he can shoot the three pretty well and again, he's playing on a bad team that's you know, seemingly not going to be in it. Yeah, you know, there's plenty of upside for being on a ship team and the guy who already can kind of know his role but he's been on some good teams. And so yeah, those are that's a good that's a good you're offering up a good player to Faith Hill there just because somebody who kind of is on these like you said bad teams, maybe getting a little sick of it and knows that they're not playing for their, you know, next contract wage. Puts them as the star of the team like that part of the dream is over, right that's you almost have to have that. I think you need to have somebody who's moved. I mean PJ Tucker wants a bigger contract wage, but these guys were making ten million dollars a year. PJ Tucker could be a guy but he's thirty-six, you know, do you I mean, are you going to use that tpe to bring in somebody who to me bringing somebody who's here is going to stay here you're going to have for a number of years. So you have to resign into a bigger contract you want how much money they use out? You won't be paying PJ Tucker. That's a whole thing. You know some of the other Orlando guys Evan Fournier. He's an expiring deal Terrence Ross is on three year deal. He might be a job at thirteen million dollars, but he can shoot kind of you know, he's he's he's made some Celtics games go sideways for Boston because you can get hot but dead. Does she do enough, you know in terms of being that score apart from you know on the other way that opens things up he can do that. But how much more to me that I'm I'm more I'd rather spend more dropped Capital to get Harrison Barnes that I would to spend maybe just the tpe and a number one. Let's say off for a guy like like Ross but I don't even know if it would take that much. Honestly. I mean to get some of these teams off of some money in a little bit pandemic. Well, you know what John is a great question a lot of good questions here, but I think the biggest one for me is I know we're getting ready to wrap the show is you know, what's a timeline for something like this? I mean, I'm going to shuffle the deck with the schedule is that may be the best time or they like they're taking stock of the team at that point. They know who's going to you know, I'm assuming everybody is going to essentially be healthy but dead. But much bigger sample size with walk or two at that point. I mean, do you just kind of hold on to that point in the season or do you think there's little more impetus to want to make a move and get the chemistry together? I guess it kind of depends on who they're targeting too. But well, you know, they're they're due to have a bit of a break to in between the start of the first half and the second half now that Mega eating up when I tried to fit in some some games, but that may be a good time to to bring in a new player. We still have a lot of teams that are wage still think they're in the mix. I mean the Knicks are playing. Well the Cavs are playing. Well, you know, Orlando had started off so hot now, of course people are starting to get hurt and that's that's Fallen by the wayside. I mean, it's just like other NBA season where you know things look great and then all of a sudden certain, you know, the teams the bad things start to fall off, you know, the Hornets are seven and ten, the Bulls are 7:10 a.m. The Raptors and heat we do remain among that cut a rough start crew. I don't know but I I have to think that we're going to be looking for trades not given I probably going to be about a month away, you know, honestly while everyone's kind of hot bothered about JJ Redick or whatever. I don't think the Celtics are really going to do much of anything until they get a little bit. I love it. I'd love to have more time with whomever this TP player is to build a little more, you know, chemistry and a bit, you know better bond with some of these guys. I've certainly wage some of the injuries and covid-19 S. You could always have more players, but I think it's just going to be a while, don't you? Yeah, I do. I think it's going to take a little while. I to your point about some of these young players to and give it a minute. I think they'd rather take some time and figure out if they can who they're going to squeeze out of the rest of that because it isn't going to be practiced. I'm right it is going to be playing time that's going to help them figure that out. And so why not take more and more time plus I don't even doing deals early is usually it's not always the best deal. I know we've made a couple right but we're usually be sending out more in those kinds of moves earlier in the in the in the you know season for trading usually those moves that happen earlier. You're sending out a lot more than the Celtics are going to want to send out or have to send out in this scenario. So I think this is one of those things where everybody's always trying like whoever they get it's probably going to be somebody worth getting For some extent which means they're going to have competition which means whoever selling isn't going to want to sell early. They're going to want to sell it the last minute when they figure they can drive the highest value right off. Yeah, and I think that's absolutely right. So going early isn't going to be put the Celtics in the best possible position. Those younger players would be better in March. They would hope they are here and the beginning of February. Yeah. Well, all right, we've got a little bit of road trip to deal with you and I like to make predictions in past Seasons. We haven't personally what do we think they're going to end up playing four games before we come back again? Is that right? Yeah, it seems like it Warriors Kings Clippers Sons wage, you know, they may play We may we may get in before the Jazz game on Tuesday. But yeah, I think those four games that's that's its that's some tough. Especially that Clipper game on on Friday night. It's going to be a real real show cuz as I say the Clippers and have started to turn things on the on the upswing, so I think I'm going three in one and three what r u doing job I'm going to say 2 and two. I'm going to say things and I think they'll get the Kings and I think they're actually going to I think we need to get the song at a weird. No, excuse me. I think they're going to get the Warriors and the Kings. I think they're doing the first two I like to start diapers are going to be I think that's a that's going to be a tough game to go down the final minutes, but they're not going to pull this one out kind of like last year where they went to the Toe to Toe with the Clippers. They're probably one of the better games of the season and the son's name was a 2:00 game on Sunday of Super Bowl Sunday, and I don't care what you say every time the Celtics play the the Phoenix Suns an afternoon. It always gets weird. I'm not going to get running like yeah, I'm with you I can go into good as I can see. Yeah, I think if they get two wins, they're the two wins you're looking at for sure. I mean Can definitely see them beating Golden State that's that's got game is not only achievable it's and they've even in the past. They've they've had kind of Golden State's number so they need to match up. Well and this this is the weakest Golden State team other than last season that they've really faced, right? So yeah. Yeah, I think so and I you know Clippers are good, you know Sons it's a weird time and I just never have a lot of faith in those situations, but also they're on the road and their their their hotel rooms. So who knows what's going to happen? So notebook our lobster place to cease. All right, I'll go one-in-three you go to a two and then we'll come back after four games and we'll we'll all of you that's going to do it for this week's show thank you for you can follow us on that. See I've lost my script John you can follow us other stuff live on you could subscribe. Island I to Stitcher Google podcasts in Spotify, we definitely appreciate a rating and review because your feedback is important to the show and for John of myself, thanks for listening to this week's edition of Celtic stuff live I mean Oh my God.

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Hour 1 - Dan Dakich (06-21-19)

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Hour 1 - Dan Dakich (06-21-19)

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Email address, DP, Dan, Patrick dot com Twitter handle at DP show. These sports world can be a pretty cynical place. Just go on Twitter anytime day or night, but last night's NBA draft did have some moments where they're a pretty good antidote to all the Neg negatively there, there were some really int- interesting emotional moments last night, Zion, Gabi tear-filled tribute to his mom, and it felt like everybody was, it was okay for everybody to cry after that players were crying. Parents crying, maybe you were crying as you were watching, we read mock draft. Sometimes we think of these players. Pieces on a chalkboard. But it's a disservice to them with all the hard work that they did and mom and dad did as well. And now they've got lucrative careers potentially ahead of them. And maybe someday, we'll look back and maybe they will as well and say. Why were you crying or I can't believe I was crying? There's no shame in crying. There is crying in basketball, at least the basketball draft in wins. I did it. And those were big crocodile tears that he had last night. But you never know he knew he was going number one. And you get up there with the lights on you. Everybody watching you and I think it starts to sink in. I don't know if you allow it to sink in, it's not the same until it's in the moment, and he started to think here, I am nineteen years of age, on the number one pick in the draft, and who would have thought this a couple years ago even last year before the season started. But hopefully these players will hold onto that passion that they showed last night and entertain us for years to come and you watch in you, you read social media, and look, we're pretty cynical group here, we always talk about what somebody's wearing like bowl bowl last night. He looked like a villain with his spiderweb Al. Fit any had to wait. I mean he he punished us with the outfit and then he got punished by staying in the green room for a long, long time. But when you look the other problem was, hey, here's a hat of team. You're never gonna play for, but put it on because this is called product placement. Hey, we're greedy here. We want to make sure everybody knows we got new hats out. How about a novel approach of we can show the hats all you want. Just don't make the kids put it on their heads. That's all not a big deal and most of them have hair that they don't wanna hat on their head. Just. Okay. We know that somebody is he the Lakers have this pick. No. They don't New Orleans says that pick. No, they don't Atlanta has that pick. But why don't we just give him a couple of hats there? I I didn't like it. I know it's a small thing. Another thing I was, when I'm watching last night, I'm wondering football, does free agency, and then they do their draft what isn't the NBA do that one if they do free agency, and then they do the draft because everything last night, it felt like was about free agency clearing cap. Space trading players getting out of the first round. And if I'm a fan you just wanna make sure your team has a game plan and I watched New Orleans with David Griffin did. He's got a game plan. If he hits on fifty percent of these picks, it will be an unbelievable hall in a steel for New Orleans with the Anthony Davis deal for a guy who had no leverage in trading. Anthony Davis to get that from the Lakers. And with the hawks couple of teams that they made trades with I thought, David Griffin, did a wonderful job. He at least has a plant the hawks have a plan. The wizards have no plan. I don't know what Phoenix's planet like there's certain teams were going on what you're thinking. You know, the Celtics still don't have a point guard and weren't they the future basketball. Analogies like there, the past basketball like what happened where it looked other stood up, man. They got draft picks. Got a great coach got a great GM can get Anthony Davis. And then all of a sudden wait. What happened L horford's out? Rozier, once out you miss out on Anthony Davis and now you're making cap space here. Okay. I guess you have a plan because, you know, Danny ages lost out on quite a few players, here, lost out on Koa lost out on Paul. George kyri is going to be leaving Horford is going to be leaving. And now all of a sudden you look around, and you go many this isn't the franchise model franchise of how to do things. Yes, unfortunately, for the Celtics, they had a bunch of bench players make a solid run in the postseason who now all believe that their starters. And now that the starters, you know this year, the starters came back and kick, those due to the curb, and they're not happy about it. They were a better team with that group than they were this group this past season. With kyri Gordon Hayward coming back now you got to like the Celtics in a rebuild mode. They went from being the favorites to go to the title game to noun of rebuild mode. Is that possible? And you still got Gordon Hayward contract. Kyri looks like he's gone and Al Horford it's gone. You still have Brown and Tatum. But you know what do you really have here as you move forward? Yes, mclovin, they as a Sixers fan. They still make me nervous. Like there was they Romeo Langford from Indiana is hand was hurt last year. So report presented they traded Carson Edwards. They're going to get sick. Yoke, Carson Edwards. He might end up starting for this team by the end of the year. I mean who knows he's, he's a guy who came on during the NCAA tournament certainly can score. But I don't know what Boston if Boston has a game. They gotta get a point guard here that was hell. Is it fair to blame kyri or not blame Kyrie, but the risk on Kyrie kind of 'cause all this is that fair to say or who who's boy, do you pointing fingers home? All I they should have gotten. I would've traded kyri last year. I I'm not a big kyri fan wonderful talent maybe the best handle in the game. But I you know that's not who I want is my lead guy, I don't. And if you could've traded him because the timing of it, you couldn't have kyron Anthony Davis because of their contracts. You couldn't have those contracts at the same time, so they had to wait in, if Kyrie wasn't going to be your guy, or you got that feeling then maybe you could've traded him, you know before the trading deadline and then you could have gotten Anthony Davis. Yes, you know, I thought that was the most shocking thing after Romeo Langford from Indiana was draft about the Celtics. In his post draft interview, he said he didn't watch a lot of NBA last year because he didn't have cable where he lived in college. All right. That that's nineteen eighty two college kids have cable the dorm. Well, you lived in athletic dorm to. Yeah. You would think you could go down. They have a lobby where you could probably go while streaming and ipad. I'm thinking, yeah. Or maybe he said, you know what can have you ever tried to watch it NBA game? It's board. I did watch eyelids. I didn't watch any games. Dan Patrick show. Brought to you by brought to you by truecar in sports a trade can make or break your team. And it's no different when it comes to selling trading in your car, you need to make a good choice with truecar get a star on your roster. When you're ready to sell or trade in your car. Check out truecar cash offer not available in all areas. All right, mclovin, what kind of question do you have on this trigger meet Friday? Okay. What's your big takeaway from last night? Strath was it all the guys were crying was the guys wearing the wrong hat, which a lot of people calling for some sort of structural fix all the trades. Or is it just the fact that Diane win last night? You think when, when it's all well, we look back at this draft and say three months, it'll be on. I mean it's. I agree with Jay Bilas. It wasn't a top heavy draft. But I think if you watch a lot of college basketball than you know, that there's some talent here. I just don't know if you're getting guys, they're going to start right away. And you know that's different than a year ago, but it's going to be about. You know, we're gonna look back on, Zion Williamson, I don't think it's going to be about the hats or these kids crying. It might be about teams clearing salaries space and also, you know teams that may not have any idea what they're doing. And there's a few of 'em that fall in line with that. And, and there's some fun players in here. But, you know, the amazing part is you're looking at eighteen and nineteen year old kids that, that's where we're starting here with the NBA, and they're going in by the time they get done with their rookie deal. You're twenty two twenty three and then all of a sudden things explode are you staying are you going sign and trait, by the way, sign and trade? Brian wind horse to the mothership said, maybe Golden State does a sign and trade with Kevin Durant to try to keep him there and you sign him. And then you can't. Trait an injured player kenu. Well, that's a good point. Well, I think we know were said they keep him next year rehab him them trade him after the season does he want the same doctors rehabbing him who sent him into battle. And if I'm let's say, you're the Knicks or your Brooklyn. I, I don't want to do, I don't want to decimate my roster to get a then or soon to be thirty two year old Kevin Durant coming off achilles surgery. Not at all. If you really wanna go then go because you're going to go and hurt your team, because it's going to be a sign and trade. And if it's the Knicks, what are you giving up to get Kevin Durant? And is he worth that a max deal? You gave up players and he's coming off the Killy surgery and he'll be thirty two at the time. No, thank you. No. Thank you. Yeah. Mclovin. How important is that extra forty million dollars to somebody like Kevin Durant, who's already like two hundred eighteen million on his career? Well, but it's easy for us to say that it's. His money, right? But at what point is forty if you have two hundred million Koreans that's only like five percent or something like is it different that is there a certain point where that forty million means less than I've never met somebody who had a lot of money. Who says man, I'm full, I don't want, like Bill Gates. He may be giving away money. He's still making money, but, I mean Warren Buffett still goes to work every single day. And, you know, so I can't say to Kevin Durant. Come on. That's enough, isn't it? I mean, how much do you really need? I just don't want Kevin Durant at that age at that price. And then I have to give up players to get him if you I would even waiver on giving up those players at that price for Kevin Durant, if he was healthy, I would not want to do that deal, but you know what they're the Knicks and chances. Are they could probably do this, also what the what the nets did in? And I know that we look at the nets, and we always looked down upon the nets the way we do the clippers, but there's some smart people in both. Those organizations with what they're doing. And what the nets were doing by getting rid of some of these salaries or saying, we don't want a first round pick their clearing space for two MAC, steals. And those two players are Kevin Durant, and Kyrie Irving that the nets are they're making a bold move here. I don't know if it's a sign and trade. And you have to give up some of your talent some of your assets there, probably so. But the nets are quietly, you know, chugging along here. Now, do I want either one of them with kyri? No do I want Katie at that price at that age coming off surgery. No. But that's what the nets, they're all in to try to acquire both of those guys. Yeah. Mclovin you said something about how is that these workers are in the rookie deal. And then they'll hit free you to five years. So the Lakers really give up that much if they gave up Ingram and ball, who they might not have resigned. Anyway. Either of those guys, these rookies, they rookies, I feel like he could build through free agency. So I. Understand New Orleans got a great deal. But the Lakers, I think it was worth the risk because those assets were never going to pay off the Lakers, what free agents are you going to go to New Orleans none? Yeah. So you had to make a deal to bring in players. Right about from the Lakers standpoint. Did they give too much by giving twenty twenty picks excetera? No, the Lakers did what they needed to do. They have a three year window with LeBron in my opinion. They got a guy who now has put them at the top. If not amongst the teams to win the title and, you know, in LA you don't we're not waiting for rebuilt. They want it now we've had it now we expect it now or stars win championships. You can't go through another season where you just sort of mired in mediocrity here, and they went after Anthony Davis. They got him. They kept coups MMA. And now you gotta fill out that roster. You gotta get a point guard in there. You got to shore up the back court at a little bit of depth and you're going to go into the league is one of the teams to be. Did they give up a lot? Yes. But if I'm New Orleans, I'm going to take that chance that maybe Lonzo ball looks at this and says I'm playing with Zion here. This is fun Ingram. This is fun. We have a chance to be a really good team. I don't know if that keeps you there. Wonderful city, wonderful people, and great basketball town in a football city. But I don't know if that's enough, but I think both teams nor liens keep in mind. They had no leverage. They had no leverage. He he wanted to go to the Lakers. So what, what's my leverage you either trade me now or I'm walking and look at what they got in return? I thought New Orleans today, wonderful job, one of the great holes that we've had at least on paper in modern day NBA history. I thought they did a wonderful job. All right. So what's poll question? We're going to go with mclovin. Okay. Couple other options. Oh, fritzy. Just sent me Mike headlines. Okay. Better draft to watch NBA or NFL inside question, which sport right now has the best offseason, NBA, NFL MLB. And I just want to remind Daimler dropped a distract in the middle of the draft last night. NBA NBA has so much going on than just like you got players, dropping albums, and talk it on Instagram. So I would argue MBA's pretty good. Okay. The opponent I've not seen fritzy's mock headlines. But I'm willing to bet twenty bucks. Okay. Rhymes Zion with cryan? Okay. Hold on. Hold on, if he didn't if that the tougher, I know. There's a vague reference cryan Williamson. Why so upset you're going wait a minute. Wait a minute. Cry on Williamson draft class have emotional night. There you go. That's my. Yeah. Second from the top. Yes, it was. Do you wanna do your mic headlines right now? And just get them. I mean you wanna give them let's just rip the band aid off. Yeah. We'll rip the band aid off with Richie's mock headlines. Here we go. We're gonna start it off with filet of Boll left feeling Manute and red and green room. What, what does that mean? He kinda got filleted got got cook filet of soul. Yeah. We can't lead with bowl bowl lay bolt. No, you gotta leave with Siahaan. I made that second like how let him in doesn't the best ones. Not. Nobody your letter. Sometimes it's tough, I know him not. But he doesn't make the best, one of the best ones like number three. I don't please don't tell me you have a straight to your mug. I do try to put some type of order. Okay. Number two Kelly mentioned cry on Williamson draft class have emotional nights. There's no place like Cleveland garland goes to Cavs. And you figure that one out. Judy Garland ago. Judy garland. Some ninety year old. I'll listen to us who get got a little wizard of Oz. Man, don't tax me on a Friday ton hero to heat Tyler Moore of a psychic though. Hero, heroes and sidekicks hero to heat Tyler more of a sidekick A miss that one, you either a hero. You're a psychic hero sandwich day, Washington. Oh, KiKi Dokie, not bad. Pick by magic Okita Gochi. He's not going with hockey morons. Wizards will really day. Okay. All right. I'm okay with that one. Okay. You know that they didn't even talk to him. They didn't interview him before they drafted him. Yes. See. Can I just start shooting around? Now you wanna go out and go, yeah. Go ahead. I just go to more. Yeah. Is going to go. Start shooting basketball seems has has a real problem with your Marquette. He wants to those band, like the I know I know so Seton just walked out wherefore art, thou. Celtics Boston turns, the hoosiers Romeo K serviceable. Okay, I'm all right with that. And the last one, which we talked about earlier this controversy with how they do things with the drift, hats off to NBA. No silver lining to wearing wrong cap. All right. I mean, the, the bar is so low. Yeah, you're sort of like the wizards. You have no clue what you're doing without. When we get in there, it felt like every draft pick either got an a or a D last night with, you know, who won who lost. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a C minus you might see my deep loss. Yep. All, you know what I thought was the closest thing to an honest moment. Jay Bilas, who is very you know, always, you know, people say Duke friendly because he's a Dookie he was talking about Cam reddish, and he was struggling to find nice things to say about cameras his freshman year. He said, this guy has got all the NBA tools. This is skills. He was but his freshman year was confusing because there's games where he was a relevant and he was being very honest about him sailing. I don't know what really happened. I can't explain it, but it was the closest thing to real. And I appreciated that because I said it yesterday if you were watching with Jay Bilas and you're having a couple of beers. Anyone on TV what would he really say? And can these analysts really say that? And I thought that that was a moment of clarity where you really. Got an inside look into camera tish as I've said before last year. I, I loved what I saw when I saw him play really well, it's just you can't be that good or supposed to be that good. And I don't know you're on the floor at times. And I know that Zion and RJ Barrett can sort of, you know, block out the sun, but camera tish and I, I've been told he was going to Atlanta that they loved him. And I do think Atlanta has a plan here. I really do. I don't know if it'll work out, but they know they wanted to go after de'andre hunter. And they wanted to go after trae young the previous year they got both of those guys and it feels like they're at least headed in the right direction. They're twenty one after the hour. We'll check in with Dan dockage the mothership did a lot of games for a lot of these draft picks will get his thoughts on the teams that did really well or those players who are in great situations to succeed is twenty one after the hour. Reggie Miller, a little bit later on your phone calls are welcome. I did like this poll. Question, mclovin. If you could only watch one NBA team next season beside your team, which team would it be? And there's pretty good list there. Yeah. I mean, the choices seem pretty pretty clear here. The Lakers warriors pelicans. Any east teams that we have to put on there. I think you gotta put the bucks because of the Greek freak. Yeah. Seventy sixers. I don't know who's going to be there. And then the raptors if Colli leaves or if he stays Celtics got a lot last year. Do they stay in that elite category? No, I don't think so I guess it depends but yeah, I'll put that up right up. All right. We'll take a break here back with Dan dockage right after this, Dan. Patrick show podcast, one presents the gbi podcast with Rick Fox jas hall, and Todd ROY, log to see the world behind the east force you love. And find out what good game really means from the trio, who's taken the business by storm, or if he literally goes, I agree with Rick. And she played. 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So I can't like don't get tripped up and try to be too cute with your mom headlines. Yes polling, sometimes, obscurity is tough with a one liner. If the references obscure, you people at the pause to get it. Yeah. You, you don't want them going on. And what you're talking about there, but it could be the first one on the receiving end. That's not getting it's not always the one that lay Abol fillet on every menu. Every diner every restaurant's going to a ball somewhere play of so, Dan, dockage ESPN college basketball analyst, also radio host for ten seventy the fan and kind enough to join us. How are you coach? Six four six five to fifty trying to lose weight. I'm great. How are you doing? Great. What did you take away from last night? Your headline for last night's draft would be what shooters shooters and more shooters Cam Johnson to me kind of said what the NBA's about EP. I think that you know what? We don't hear, Dan. We we'd never heard this. We never heard the term rim protector, and we never heard the term point guard in the NBA finals. We didn't. And, and it's it's become shooters, drivers and the game is change. And that's kind of what I saw, you know, where where what is fine? Williamson's three to five is you four, you know, John Moran John rant, they think can play with other guards it. That's what I took away from the whole deal. Dan? I just took away that the game has changed the only team that really in my mind. I don't know what's going to happen in Cleveland. But the only team in my mind and said, hey, look, we need a point guard which icago and they got one. But used to be everybody needs point. Everybody needs a four by needs. Rim protection. You'll see anymore, shooting shooting and more shooting. But what's the one team you would fit right? You would fit perfectly. What's the one team where you just shake your head and go? I don't know what they're doing. I hate to say this, but my boys here in Indiana, and I'm getting ready. I'm not sure if I'm gonna rip. I'm not sure exactly what I'm gonna do, but they take a big kid. And, and one of the things that I like to do is, is talked to scouts along along the way between the end of the season and the draft. And one of the things that they said about this. Big kid is that needs to be tougher? Now if I'm gonna have a a seven foot player from the Republic. Georgia I wanted to be a bad ass. I want him to be a tough dude with skill because that's what I see in the league so you already have two guys in Savona and, and Turner, and all of a sudden you go to your draft in another guy, you know, hopefully, it works out, and I'm gonna talk to Kevin Pritchard today on my show. But you know I sat there and wondered the team I thought that did great because I love I don't like I love Cam reddish. I thought I thought Atlanta. Yeah. Due to do the heck of a job. I love cameras, Dan, because you can shoot the Dag on basketball and he's got size. Yeah, I just as I just mentioned about ten minutes ago. He could disappear. I can watch he could be on the floor. And I didn't know he was on the floor. And I understand what Zion and RJ Barrett that's possible. But there were just and maybe he just didn't know what his role was on that team. But I do like the possibilities of I don't want to say potential the possibilities of camera tish with Atlanta. Again, I go from the end of the see I think the end of the season for the draft tells you lot. You know what I saw that? And this could be dead wrong. I it could be dead. Right. No one's ever going to admit it. But I almost saw Zein Williamson and R J, Barron, had little clique thing going with each other. And I don't know if that's right. But that was seemed like to me. And and you know, when you're in it's not nothing intentional. Nothing. But listen, there's nothing. But that's what I saw. And, and I'm thinking to myself, as I'm watching that went back and watch him do games, and your one thousand percent, right. Yeah. It it showed a little bit. I mean you got to kind of look for it. Maybe I'm looking too much for it. That kind of thing, but it kinda showed a bit. But the one thing that I did like about cameras. When I went back and watch him stuff while he did disappear. He was not afraid to take bigshots. He he made some miss some. That's what you do. But he wasn't afraid on that stage with those guys. So I don't know. I'm I'm kind of big on him who had a good night last night. Well what didn't suck to Zion Williamson last night? No team wise. Well, I do think Atlanta I do think Atlanta and I do think the pelicans and the job. And, you know, the Griffin's did did getting all those picks for Anthony Davis. I don't think you know, I don't think you could have done better. I think that they had a great week. I think that overall when you look at what the pelicans are gonna be able to do with their team. It's a versatile team. It's a team that can play you know, use modern professional basketball DP because it's just different but I do I think they had a good night. The most interesting night to me was Cleveland. You got John beeline, who's a teacher. He's gonna have all these young guys and let's be honest. It's a heck of a lot different. You know you can win and play with freshmen, and then she AA basketball rookies in professional basketball p, I don't know. So I thought, that's the most interesting going forward. But this this off season as far as belong to the pelicans in my opinion, anyway. As I on does it work out. I think injury. And and, and you know that's obvious. But one of the things, Dan, he's, he's such a unique body and the season is so long. I mean, let's, let's think my wife said the other day, we're watching MBA. Plus, she goes this isn't hockey. You're still going on. You know what I mean? I mean it's so long and there's so much involved like people think, well, okay. We got a game. Well, if you're Zion Williamson. Yeah you got a game but you're going to be out there three or four hours ahead of time, working out with a guy to get better. I think he's got a streamline his body and the other thing, Dan again he shoots it. I think I'm Williamson's the smartest player in the draft. I think he's a absolute basketball genius. But the truth of the matter is gonna shoot at gray. And that line is deep. I remember. I remember telling NBA guys when Calbert Cheney came cab was great. Not good. Great college player. All timely score play of the year that he and I back in the early nineties used to just shoot around before practice in the NBA three point line was too far for him. It was just was joke didn't, you know. And I remember telling him that and ever since then I've watched that I've watched, you know, college line one thing. Now they're moving it back. I just wonder if he'll be effective enough shooting. That's the only thing. Injuries that I see because that dude is he's brilliant, crazy athletic, obviously, seems to have a great personality who was the best player. You saw aside from the Duke guys best player that you love game that you broadcast. Man. That's a great question. I, I hate to say I mean the best player that I broadcast in a game was jeez. I I really liked the Andre hunter. I really, I really liked him, Dan. I I, I don't I thought he was great. I thought that Iggy bras day 'cause played harder than anybody wasn't the best player. But I thought the Andrea hunter, when I did the ACC tournament. And you know, you're sitting there up close, and you watch, and I will say this, and this is going to sound crazy and people aren't going to like it. But as a college player, I take Carson if you're just in college Now, Dan, you know what I mean? I'm not saying Carson Edwards was electric, even when he was shooting for for twenty four and a game. I did against Indiana. The do I mean Vinnie. Johnson is the only comparison because he shoots the ball. The same way behind his head. He. Jumps up a mile even when he misses Dan. It's like whoa, 'cause he's he's not taught. He's five eleven six and Dan, I'm telling you his release on a jump shot at the apex is probably as high as the Andrei on us. I mean, there's a video of him shooting over the Andre hundred you know jumping as high as hunter can't it. So I don't think he was the best like hunter is such a good fundamentally sound player. But I tell you this man Carson Edwards, that do electric you think he could start? I've texted with Brad Stevens last night. And Brad was ecstatic to get him. That was a big, big namedrop. Right. They're huge. Yeah. Okay. Here's all the time. That's not a huge new drop. Dan, Patrick sent me a video last night, if you drop straight jump shot while I'm trying to cook me and. It's a meet Friday. So I'm you know, I love sending that video to you. I came into the man cave by myself in the afternoon. And I put my phone up to record me shooting jumpers, just to let you know, I was in the laboratory shooting jumpers and dockage sends me a video of I think you had a bottle of whiskey or bourbon had the grill the grill going on your backyard. My son was home for the weekend. We just got done. I don't know jacket around something up sitting on the couch this show to tiger. Look at this school. Drilling. A jumper walk it back to the video, staring at me. Yeah, I got intimidated. I'm not gonna lie. I random. All right. So what did Brad Stevens say to you last night? Well when I was texting with Brad Stevens. He he felt. He thought you know what he, he knows these two guys you know, he got Romeo lane, Kirk, and Carson was they felt like they were a little lucky to get where it's again, it just goes back to what basketball is about the way it's set up to play explosive felt like you know, we all see him we all see words shooting jump shots. But I'm telling you when you see him in person, go to him. I mean, I'm not again, then protection isn't a big thing. He was excited about having having both of them any felt like he knew both of them better, maybe than any, any guys he's ever been, you know, since he's been in the NBA, because obviously, he's from Indiana and has so many people around, and he, he just had an assistant Mike Shrewsbury lead the Celtics and go back to produce. So he felt really good about their potential scores. And he felt really good about how he knows how they're gonna fit in. It's not a guessing game with those too good to talk to you again. Dan and have fun this afternoon. Torching the Indiana Pacers here the best, I think this afternoon, I'm going to have a conversation. Oh with who who you are? We going to tax to this afternoon. I think I'll be texting with GM Kevin Pritchard. And, and no. I got nothing. I'm going fishing this afternoon after my son just gonna sit on doctoring period, go fishing, you know what I'm going to be doing drinking whiskey shooting threes. No threes. Just show. You know what I do? I shoot lights out. I haven't electricians, standing by because I suit, the lights out here. He's on call it could I say, one thing after that whole exchange I get I get a picture from you is like your feet up a little glass, looks like bourbon and a cigar telling me, but you say you're like I team all American when it comes to that your first team. Yeah, I'm crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like a plus seven in golf handicapped when it comes to drink tequila. Good goodbye that. Thank you for having. Thank you, Dan. That's Dan, dockage ESPN college basketball analyst, and radio host ten seventy the fan. Yeah. I came in here. I did it to, to people I came in here on a Saturday or Sunday and I put my iphone up and I had it tilted in a way that I've just gonna shoot hoops. So I was just going to press record do the video, and I was gonna shoot as many jumpers as possible until I missed. And I did one to Dan, doc. It's the other did the Doug Gottlieb. And Gottlieb said something about, you know, he, he was watching a movie with his son, and I said, you don't want better yet, having watched this movie he'll learn more from this because he'll learn how to shoot and it's, it's hoosiers to the comeback, and I sent that to Gottlieb. And then I set one to dockage dockage setback his grill was open, and he had a bottle of bourbon or whiskey on the back porch there. All right. We'll take a break. We got our play. Of the day, coming up got a stat of the day as well. We've settled on our poll question. Reggie Miller, a little bit later on and palling wants to ask the Zion, Williamson question, do you want it before the break? No, so you think your answer. No, I'd rather react in real time. Got this live right now polling got these words right now that I just said right now. That's lot. Those that were it's live Todd is live. It's happening right now. We're gonna do it live. We should we should always do. We'll take a break back after this. Okay. This is just a thirty second commercial and I'm gonna throw a lot of numbers that you please. Please stay with me and just fifteen minutes. You could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, the company that has been offering great rates and great service for seventy five years. It's gyco. I'm using it for a long time itself, and anytime you need help, you could speak to one of their trains, specialists twenty four seven no recordings, the company gyco, go to Geico dot com today. 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My kids singing all town road. They say it twenty four hours a day. It's the I don't believe it's twenty four hours a day. Mclovin pretty close because I know my son, it's, it's basically about every fifth sentence that comes out of his mouth. It's some line from that song. It's, it's the achey break you heart of this generation. It's oh can we play it? Little nas. I think we can by the way the play of the day brought to you by truecar. You've got a star on your roster when you need to make a good choice. So when you're ready to sell or trade in your car, check out, truecar true cash offer not available in all states. Is clean right? I have. No. I think so do I do remix Blissett. So Kevin Costner said, yes, it is clean. And this is little gnaws will NASDAQ's. In that kid. Vic. More got for Susan. So funny. They're listening to this. Get. Faith is this ability Cyrus song, though? Well, he's, he's it's more feet. I think, oh, okay. So little gnaws, X feet. Billy race based bad feet. His feet has been in a lot. Yeah. We're here. This is Billy recital. Town road. No. That is my black, who slack them. Eight on your boarding about in valley. There is now. It's a big deal. Why did he choose Billy Ray Cyrus, and let us do a really interesting story? I don't know. I don't know the whole thing, but this is basically the only song is written, and it is a monster smash hit and people are like so can you do that again? Did did he write this? Or does he? Oh, okay. Yeah. And then and then they got Billy Ray Cyrus to be on it. I guess, who's more talented Billy Ray Cyrus, or Miley, Cyrus. Billy Ray Cyrus infinitely more town. Two hits. Twenty two years apart. Probably about forbi- lira twenty five years apart. But this is in his song, achey, breaking Hort was his song. They still got same haircut. Well, no, he changed because he had the Moulet, and then now he's just got this long hair. He got longer hair than his daughter. All right. It's a left turn from the right lane on the photo fun. We're famous for that. All right. The Zion question is what I was watching a bunch of analysts night, I have no idea who's who was who on NBA TV. And one of the guys s another guy what's the worst case scenario? What's the low end for Zion Williamson, and they named a player, can you guys guests who they named? It's not a bust, but the player who a physically dominant, NBA player, who is very, very popular in a dunking machine and just never really got there. But close. Yes, he Dominique now this guy was very good. Very entertaining, polarizing people. Tune in to see him. Physical freak but two decades ago. Shawn kemp. Yeah. I was just gonna say Sean Campbell damning. They set this analyst. I wish I remember his name said he goes, you know what? If Zion Weisman doesn't develop the rest of his game by Shawn Kemp didn't develop the rest of his game and ate his way out of the game which I'm sure there's more control over players workouts, inhabits and off the field. But they said the worst case nervous. Shawn Kemp Shawn Kemp had a nice career. Just never got there. God, he could have been so great. I think Shawn Kemp got there he was he would have been NBA finals MVP. I mean he's he was the best player. I know people say, yeah. Crazy he was the he was the most dominating player in that finals when the bulls played Seattle sure Shawn Kemp. They had no answer for Sean Carr's best season. He averaged nineteen points and eleven rebounds, which is fine. But that's not that's not going to be good enough for Zeile incorrect. The fans are not going to be happy with that. He was six, I'm also and was in the MVP race. You know that's not a lows that pretty high low ceiling. I just and that's what the analyst said. He goes. Is not a bad because this is not a bus. It's just like with all that promise and physical dominance. It never got to their yeah. He's going to be better than Shawn Kemp c kept got to game six against the best team. Maybe in history of the game. I feel like they had an unbelievable team in Seattle. Right. But he was the heart but they had an unbelievable to. Yeah. Payton that was unbelievable deadline shrimp. They, they had a great Nate McMillan debt of really, really balanced deep team. I thank you might say riding Rogers who said who's physically client. I did I've said Rodney Rogers and then nobody's echo. Those same sentiments until I'm watching around the horn Kevin Blackstone goes. You know, he reminds me a little bit of Rodney Rogers, and then nobody knew who he was talking about. So I was like, all right. Well, maybe I'll call Kevin and say, hey, I see that comparison similar size. I guess left-handed shoot a little bit move a little bit. I don't know. 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REShow: Rex Chapman. Hour 1 (04-01-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Rex Chapman. Hour 1 (04-01-19)

"Orig- is on demand. Your show your schedule. Fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. They always told will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work ethic. Do the topping for him. Always a gym always running drills will new where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was born he realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll give up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard that Geico could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. All right, everybody. Welcome this dishes are the rich Eisen show. Eight four four two four rich number down have a conversation here on audience or on our live or listening to his coast to coast right ear on the rich Eisen show radio network. We're always thrilled a heavy here. Brockman, how are you? Good to see over there buddy foes, making his way back from Prosser last af game in the history of the af we'll see how that goes right now everyone holding their breath in the. World of the af. But look it's all about the final four now. Obviously the final four is set after a busy weekend. First full week in a major league baseball. The NBA playoffs are right around the corner. You still got some teams that are are white hot red hot at officials from pop getting the gate, the Golden State Warriors live it over what happened over the weekend. Against the Minnesota Timberwolves with dream on green essentially accusing. Current official of being on the take was crazy. I mean, that's essentially what what happened over the weekend. But college basketball really has our attention focused because we've got a final four that hardly anybody saw comet you got the the big ten champs in. Michigan state bouncing Duke got Texas Tech out of the big twelve you got we knew we have one s e c team in after Auburn blew the doors off of North Carolina to take on Kentucky and auburn's in the final four and blessed Virginia. I mean, if you if you could choose one seed, right if he could use one of the one seeds to the only if we told you only won one seat would make it in their ACC team. Nobody would have chosen Virginia overdue, but I mean Virginia which had a first-half rough time of it against Gardner Webb. I mean, we all seeing how that was playing out. And then, you know, Oklahoma gave them a little bit of a rod before they did win by double digits, Oregon in one of those turn back the clock shooting performances. And then a game for the ages against Purdue that was so much fun. I mean, Purdue play some fun basketball games. They do the one on Thursday night last Thursday night against. Tennessee went to overtime in that one. And then another one went to overtime this one against Virginia. What an incredible performance by Carson Edwards fun to watch allies, incredibly fun to watch. And he did a couple of things that we have not seen since Steph curry, which is scores many points. He did in the first four games of the tournament. And also be named the region's most outstanding player in not be the final on the final four team to come out of the region last player do that with Steph curry. And and Carson Edwards. Now, let me get that exact number four years since I just gave that numeral out in terms of Steph curry he had forty two points. Overnight forty two points overnight one hundred twenty eight points through the first four games of the tournament. Most. It's Steph curry to since since two thousand Steph curry dynamite me Don about he was terrific, absolutely terrific. And unfortunately for for him. They'll Virginia got the buzzer beating tie. And then took care of business in overtime Auburn without. One of their best players out with an ACL injury there in the final four Michigan state as we know it was out without a couple of really good players from the regular season. They beat Duke. And you have to have this conversation about Duke. One of the best freshman classes we've seen in since the fab five Greg. Thank. So you can really make that argument. Three guys in the top five in the draft reddish Barrett and then Zion. Williamson who is so spectacular. One of my favorite replays of the entire tournament was zooming in on Zion getting one inch taller for rebounded. You see that slow-motion replay that CBS head. I forget on on whom on Michigan state. They're going for the same rebound. You could see the outstretched arms of Michigan state player. Brought to grab the ball Zion. Goes just little one inch taller snatch. It. He's amazing. He is truly remarkable. And he's making threes. I mean when the team needed him it looked like he was going to will do to the next level with a second half performance. But Michigan state does what Michigan state does which is play terrific defense and have some timely baskets on offense. Give you nothing in the transition game. Nothing. In the transition game make your free throws. And then Izzo is as great as they come in terms of Xs and os and willing team to victory by the way, Aaron Henry on the Friday night blowout win over LSU had a career best twenty. Let's just point that out on Friday night. The kid who is in the in the in the crosshairs, what your imagine how good Michigan state could be of Tom. Izzo was nice to his I know right? So just need a point that out that the kid that supposedly was harassed by his coach was the one who dominated the Sweet Sixteen game. And then the elite eight game where they bounced Duke. So you have to have a conversation is this disappointment for for do. They don't even make the final four with this team. They don't even make it. It's very easy to say. Because it's so tough to make a final four. It would have been coach case thirteenth final four breaking the tie of most all time he currently has with John wooden. And instead these kids don't even make the final four. Is it a disappointment? You have to say it is. With these kids when are they going to have these types of players again. And this is a one and done sport. Although the four teams that made it have some serious veteran leadership. House is not a disappointment for Duke, and I fully admit I have a bias against too. Sure. But I think I would say this, even if it was my own alma mater or anything like that. I I raise my hand. And that's an interesting thing to I was talking about this. My my my kids were watching me route for Michigan state, right? And they were totally confused. Wait a minute. We thought that this is the enemy in this house. Right there your biggest rival right out in state, Sarah. But in basketball, it's the biggest rival sure and they saw disappointed. I was not once not twice but three times this year having lost Michigan state. And I got asked the question. What do I hate dukes much? Why do I go back in and the interesting thing, I did not know how to respond to my my kids? What do I what do you do debt? That's what Zander flat on S me. And I'm like, okay. How do I it's not the coach a really like the coach, right? Coach K all-time. Great from what he's done on the court. Just seeing him hugging players on UCF after they lost to way back when I was on ESPN having met him there at the Jimmy V golf tournament. One time. I actually watched him coach K at the Jimmy V golf tournament drop his bag off at the bag trop the backdrop spot, and I watched him in his car make an actual catering in his car to get to the parking lot watched coach K mak- cater. And he did he did his well as he does coaching. No, he doesn't right? Zion. They know I want to I love to fix, and they don't know how much I despise the owner in know that he's not going to be because the owners karma stinks. Don't go down that worm. Oh, please. Don't Jay Williams. One of our favorite guests on the show. I love Grant Hill Lovgren hill. Jay Bilas, we share a haircut. I mean, we could go could truly go on and on here. Jane, betty. Yeah. I mean, I couldn't exp- explain to them about Grayson Allen. You know? I mean, it's just the whole of it later of it is it because they feel like they're better than everyone else. And if they do the kind of have the record two point two there's a scoreboard. Maybe that's it. I don't know. Why why if I really respect these people, and I wanted why would I wanna see keep playing basketball games? Two more games as as a an amateur before he goes to the NBA. Why would no want to see that? But I was kind of happy. I don't have an answer. But it definitely was something. I enjoyed watching. And I you know, what I feel about how I feel about Izzo, and you know, one of my favorites on the planet mariuchi, they're kind of the same person. And then there's the big ten just seeing the big ten have a Representative in the final four. I guess that's the way it all works. But in terms of having these players, you don't this is truly a generational situation. And they don't even make the final four. But these kids now have next leg up going in the NBA a lot of people know his eye on is who didn't already know who he was. And I can't wait to see him at the next level and all the duties and all of them. So we'll ask this Rex Chapman is successful season or not and you're hearing. Well, you know, these kids got one year of college experience in their better players now than they were than they came in. And you know, whole amateurism question. It's all rolled into one team. But we'll talk to Rex about that if I'm sure he's stopped crying after his Scott outs by Auburn. And I'll should you feel about Auburn. Right. Chuck Person the rifleman the assistant coach who's. Got his legal life on the line based on what he was doing to. Perhaps cheat on behalf of Auburn is alleged to have done that he's in legal hot water. But Auburn moves onto the final four and their coach, Bruce Pearl was forced to leave Tennessee after a scandal. I heard Dan show. He's so likable. He's a good. Be sounds like a good guy. But I don't know what to feel about all this stuff. But I'll tell you what I put it aside watching these games. I'm so into it Carson Edwards. What he did? For Purdue over the weekend. Got me off the couch. The whole family was around watching it. And the neural exactly play. The most exciting style of basketball. Would you look at for Jinya? They were the first one seed to lose to a sixteen last year. Now, they're in the final four, maybe the favorite to win. It all of them can win at all as I said about Texas Tech after seeing him in person. And the coach is going to be joining us on this program. Crispier Sean Payton will call in. He's a one week ago today. He was the an app man who is behind the scenes moving heaven and earth to get a proposal in front of the owners that according to Peter King and his in his football Morning America column today prior one week ago today when the membership of the NFL all met to raise their hands who's into the idea of making instant replay opened up for offense and defensive pass interference fewer than ten hands were raised in the room thirty one eventually raise raising said, yes to it. So Sean Payton the man of the instant replay, our will be joining us from New Orleans, and then the actress pan Greer, Jackie Brown herself ABC's show bless this mess. We are all over the map. And we'll on our guest list. What's our question today? Our poll question, Chris before you mentioned you talk about being a disappointment. What was the bigger despu disappointment? This season though, was at Duke or how about the Lakers LeBron shutdown over the weekend for the rest of the year for the rest of the. A year with a few games laughed. They've thirty five wins this year. That's as many as they want all of last year without will Braun James did miss some time this year, but a lot of expectation for this Lakers team coming into this year were they going to clear enough space to recruit free agents. This coming summer, it seems like it's been an unmitigated disaster here in Los Angeles. What was the bigger disappointment Duke or the Lakers? I mean, you would think prior to the season. Basketball season's about to begin. We had just watched Duke rampage through Canada remember that so called exhibition tour where team America was was going crazy up in Russia album rampaged through rampage Canada. Yeah. So we're thinking dukes gonna go undefeated. Yeah. There was a lot of wood JR. It undefeated talk this year. And I thought the Lakers were a playoff team and right up until what do we determine it was the seven minute Mark of the third quarter third quarter of Christmas day. It looked like the the Lakers were a playoff team how team blowing out the warriors on Christmas day, and then LeBron's groin gateway. And then the rest of it has been totally downhill since then we thought at this point last year Duke would be undefeated going into the final four on this day. And I thought many of us thought that the Lakers would be flat out in the playoff hunt. Either for the eighth and final playoff spot or somewhere already with an. Next to their name middle pack. And instead the clippers are currently forty seven thirty one two games behind the blazers for home playoff spot. Doc Rivers is on tomorrow show as a coach of the year candidate as I said in December, by the way before they traded away. Tobias Harrison became somehow a better team. And there is no sense for the Lakers about okay? We know this kid can play well with Braun. We know that kid is a budding star. We know that kid can be this piece for this team. You can't say that about anybody of them. Right. Lonzo Ingram Kuzina. I mean, I I mean, they're still question marks. And LeBron shutdown. So that's the question. Lakers. Do good, sir. Good one. So that's the way we're rolling eight four four two four riches the number to dial here on this show. Rex Chapman NBA veteran and the man who is closely associated with cut touchy basketball and wondering if you enjoy watching things and people run into each other on Twitter and his blocker charge that he has out there and his Twitter verse on his Twitter handle, it's fun stuff. Pam grier. Also, Sean Payton coach beard crispier. The Bobby Knight acolyte who has taken Texas Tech as far as Texas Tech's ever gone in the NCAA tournament the final four to take on Michigan state. I one sixty in that game wins. Yeah. Definitely over that out there for next eight four four zero four rich number here on the show. Here's something. Interesting. Studies show that security systems deter burglars. It's a fact, but they're still a burglary every eight seconds in America. How will think about it do burglars? Give up just because some houses have security systems. Of course, not did just find a house that isn't protected, and that's why securing your home is truly a necessity. So let me recommend this brilliant security system built on my friends at SimpliSafe, they believe fear has no place in a place like home, so they made simply safe ridiculously smart. It's sensors will protect every point of access to your home, doors windows garage. 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Of course, this may be the most rewarding to do you do today. The always told will he was too short to play basketball. But will never listen. We'll let his work ethic. Do the talking for him. Always in the gym always running drills will new where there was a will. There was a way and he was will. But then after a second child was born be realized the pros were all way better than him. So we'll give. Up and buried his high tops in a tearful ceremony. But one day he heard the geiko could save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch, which was awesome. All right as promised twelve year. NBA veteran in a man who is closely societas with the Kentucky wildcat basketball program and has a wildly popular and entertaining Twitter feed. He's none other than Rex Chapman. How you've been Rex Goodrich. Rich, are you buddy wounds from yesterday house about to say wh- what happened? I guess let's start with that. Macro question. Volving Kentucky basketball Rex. Well. You know, I think. Oh, I think I think experience caught up with lack of caught up with us. You know, started four freshman and sophomore for both of the season in ran into a hot team. Auburn repeat them twice. We couldn't score. We couldn't score down the stretch. Guys. Guys have to make play their enough enough plays yesterday to be made to win that game. We just couldn't make enough shots or making play. And I guess they in terms of Auburn basketball, where where do you stand on the subject of the fact that Chuck Person is has his entire life online right now legally and this team is in the final four, the former Auburn assistant who has been ensnared in the in the federal legal sting Chuck Person. Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah. How do I feel about it? Yeah. Personally. I don't care about any of that. I really don't all these kids if they're if they're all in the same eighteen to twenty three year old window. I don't care how they got wherever they go. If you got if you're playing a thirty year old I got a problem with that. But hey, I'm happy for Bruce. Pearl's course, listen, I've got I know it's family kids a little bit. I'm just happy for all. And I'm happy for Chuck Charles Barkley. He started this whole thing way back with and for them to be in the final four, you know, Nancy guy and a friend adjusts. I'm really happy for them. Yeah. I know Charles was Charles Barkley was ecstatic. We could see that. I mean, he oh, yeah. He was just losing his mind. Which is the best team that still remains now. Now that obviously got a red hot Auburn team and Virginia moving forward in a in breathtaking fashion against Purdue which is the best team still remaining here Rex I don't know. You know at this point. It's one game. You can beat anybody. I think that Michigan state may have the best the toughest team to be able to play any way you wanna play slow fast, or whatever I think that Texas Tech has the best player and in Virginia. I really happy for Tony Bennett. Those guys what a disappointing season they had last year getting beat by sixteen. You know, they've got some real talent. They got a big kid who's great pounds guard. This is a it's a toss up for me. You know, I'm gonna pay less attention now that my guys are out of. And in fact, yesterday for real I was so despondent after our game that I turned off the game at half-time went to sleep took. A nap woke up found it found out they'd gotten beat thinking that might make me feel better. And and it made me feel worse thinking we should be there in the final four and to not be there. That's the way you actually felt about all that. You know? It's interesting wrecks. You're the perfect person to ask this then in that regard these saying that you would make you feel better that Duke wasn't in my my ten year old son who just beat me in the rest of the crew here in our bracket, knowing I'm a Michigan fan watching me root for Michigan state in that game asked me why I hated Duke so much and I really have an answer for him. Rex. Why don't either Ritz in? Here's the thing. I I like all the guys that almost every guy that's ever gonna do. I really liked coach K. I think he Pathak I have friends Johnny darkens one of my good, buddy. Jay Bilas, all those guys they will love all those. I just can't stand do. And the idea. Do I don't even know what that means. I can't stand it. You know? Yeah, that's disappointing. I wanted to see the kiss Duke play in feel like the, you know, generational type of players so unwilling disappointed for them. But I'm not gonna lose too much leap over bad. I know. So I mean, obviously got reddish you have obviously Zion. And and Barrett is this is this a failure of season for Duke. I hate to be so so, you know, black and white here because normally I do like to live in the gray area that there's not everything is one thing or the other in sports, but you've got this collection of freshman talent. That is so unique and Duke didn't even make the final four where do you stand on that subject wrecks? How do you? Let me just ask you the question rich because that's what I think about when you have how do you view the John Calipari thirty eight not that was beaten by Wisconsin the final four. Right. How I'm asking you. How you feel about that? You feel like that was a complete and utter failure. No, I do not. I kinda I kinda do. And so therefore, I looked at this year, and I go. Yeah. Come on. If you got three of the top five or six guys you're supposed to win. I guess what? I don't get. And maybe it's just my I'm hypersensitive to the Kentucky air all sort of. Critique is is is K taking much grief today at Cal is. I don't know. I know in our neck of the woods tells taking a lot of greets. But I it seems that maybe CAL's per be treated with a little kind or gloves after this. Then. Towel might be is that right or well. I mean, he has taken Duke two dozen final fours. He would have just he would have broken the record that he's tog with John wooden with had this team beaten Michigan state yesterday. Maybe maybe there is that. But you you explain to me what why is Cal getting he in Kentucky. Well, right now their ten years elite eight eight times final four four or five times on one. I just don't get it seems like. It seemed like back in the day years ago cows everything that was wrong with with college basketball one and done and all that. And then started doing the one and done started going after those guys, and I'm just, you know, he's one one since then, but one I just I I don't understand I feel like as just a little different set of rules for Cal there as opposed to Kate. And I know that they're just types of coaches that they're hall of famers. I just don't get the the Uber critical narrative on on Cal all the time. When it when you know, he went to the elite eight with four freshman and sophomore starting come on. Rex Chapman here on the rich Eisen show. Jared covers the best player still left. That's the player from Texas Tech that you're referring to you said it. Yeah. I think the their guy is really good, and listen there they've got another little guard. That's really good plays alongside him. They're terrific defensive team coaches. Don't terrific job this year. Heck any any of these teams can win at this point? What did you think of what you think of Carson Edwards of Purdue? And the way he was lighting it up man, saying tastic, remind me of the way Kimba was controlling everybody way back where and he's he's small. But man, he's a competitor. Can put it in the basket what a fun fun team to watch. What's the best shooting at you ever had Rex? Oh my gosh. Man. I have no idea I making night or shooting night. Making night Rex making night making night where you were. I mean, the kid Klein from Purdue. On on Thursday night. And then Carson Edwards on Saturday. It was just just awesome to watch just so much fun. It's what the tournament is truly all about. What what what's your best making night? Where it looked like you're throwing it into the ocean. I don't even know into long ago. I think that you have those nights from time to time. I probably had a few of Mukalla been NBA where you feel like, you know, everything shoots going to go in. And I think the fun part about it is, you know, you ready for that you put in thousands of shots and spent time in the gym. I know people people will ask those questions like what are you? I I don't look at it the same way, you know, you put the work in you feel like you belong there. And it's all kind of a blur thirty years later twenty years later, whatever it is. But it's fun watching these young guys. Now, I don't know. I look back. They do so much stuff better than we all did with offhand. They can go. You know to their opposite hand so much more that we all could the way they can guide can fly down the court breakneck speed pulled up on balance and shoot, you know, on the run three pointer or shooting three pointers all the time off the dribble with high success. It's a different game than when I played man. So bay a couple of minutes left here with Rex Chapman on the rich Eisen show. You saying that inexperienced caught up with Kentucky the greatest freshman team. Perhaps since the fab five didn't even make the final four is is experience overlooked here. Wrecks that we're talking about all these one in Duns and how they are helpful to collegiate programs. Are we seeing the other way around right now? You know, I think I'm not exactly sure how to answer that question. But I do think this. We can go back, and yes, the game's different now the rules are different someone put out a picture yesterday of the nineteen Eighty-four final four. A Sports Illustrated picture it had Wayman Tisdale, and Michael Jordan, Chris mo- and and ten guys from that year Sam Perkins. He's were all three and four year guys that were in that fixer college guide. And if you go back nineteen year olds are still nineteen and when you get into I was much better as a player when I was twenty than I was when I was seventeen just getting on Kentucky's campus and people thought I was good then and I wasn't. I mean was but I couldn't have played in the NBA not as a seventeen eighteen year old. I could two years later. So and you is it's a factor. Not many of us aren't LeBron or Cihan or you know, Koby or take g or those guys and those guys are different, you know. Used you gotta be really special. We wanted a few years ago with the top two picks in the draft. In Michael kick. You'll Chris and Anthony Davis. And but we had a we had a senior on that team in various Miller, everything that we've had that's really made a deep run has a balance on it of of some experience. And I think that you yes, experiences always overlooked. You can't have enough of it last thing for your Rex. I'd be remiss if I did not bring up again, I mentioned when are you more? You're one more entertaining Twitter feeds and the block or charge. Yeah. I guess the bit that you find some of the most violent, I guess videos involving human beings running into things and you ask if it's a blocker a charge. It is where did you come up with this idea? How did it all start with you? Well, I'm genius. Let's get there. Well, I I'm an idiot. That went into it at all. I saw video of dolphin swimming. In the school was off and swimming in towards the shore and a guy on Pablo board heading out dolphin hit. The guy squaring to to myself the idiot than I am went that the charge and kind of ask the question on Twitter and people out. It was funny. That's it. That's it. There's nothing more to it. It's the dumbest lowest forms entertainment. I haven't seen this. What we're seeing a panda hitting some poor young ladies to ending top rope charge charge. Well, she was she was she wasn't moving. Right. Is that what we're saying? The great part about it. The interpretation everybody got their interpretation of what happened and nobody's right? And nobody's wrong, dumb and fun. And with. Going on in the world. Like. Sending you ideas now reckless now, it's easy now. Yeah. I'll just open it. My both had twenty twenty videos that us from from followers, or or friends that have said all you gotta see this. So it's easy now. It is amazing. It's fun. My wife loves it everyone. It's it's fun for the whole family. Rex step over the line in time to time and have to undo some tweets that idea because people will get fended and a lot of times, I won't mind, but I do try to cut the videos off before we know if the person actually live. Your humanitarian at heart. Wrecks your humanitarian. Hey, I've enjoyed it. Just enjoyed our chats all the time. Thanks you wreck. Sorry about sorry about your team. Thanks, man. We'll reload be back next year. That's Rex Chapman at Rex Chapman on Twitter. So I guess asking them about the Michigan state Duke game was was off the table. He just. I don't know when you get depressed of watching a sporting event. Can you go to sleep? Oh, no. No. No, no. You know what? I mean. Like, I don't know. But you gotta you gotta do other things I understand shutting the game off and going to thing like going. I would just it would I would be able to handle that. Now, let's put it this way. After our first guest in the second hour crispier team dispatched mine within literally five minutes. By scoring ten points. And you could just see that Michigan wasn't going to ever catch up to Texas Tech, right? I would not have gone ously had I been given that option. In like, you know, an interesting take right there that the teams with more. Experience moving on. Something to be said, I don't know, man. I don't have guys stick around. I still think that as long as you can have one and done players putting a team together. Like the one that Duke just did. If you can do it try, it, do you think coach K with think this year was worth it? I think he would think that it's worth it. 'cause he looks at it from a coaching perspective, which is kids growing kids. Getting better kids having an experience when I've in that locker room, we haven't we don't we don't see the relationship between these guys, of course, not and how that is a metric that's a metric for a team. But for us looking on the outside Saint, hey, how often you gonna have these three generate these generational talents. Together. Gotta make at least the final four got to cut down a net. I mean about John Calipari people are calling what he's done in the last four years of disappointment four, guess what? I have a an alma mater. We've made the Sweet Sixteen three straight years. I'm happy as a clam. I was disappointed by this year. I thought it would be better. But we ran into a better team in Texas Tech talk talk with it's going to be Michigan state versus that. Team lockdown teams. Total lockdown teams that give up zero transition baskets zero. I think Duke had no fast-break points in the game yesterday. What did you say? I the sixty win. Maybe probably Sean Payton's next hour to how in the world. Did we go from fewer than ten teams interested in changing instant replay? And opening it up for passenger Fearance to every team. But one how did that happen? And when we come back we turn to the National Football League we turn to the National Football League. Major news here on this. First of April from the goat Tom Brady himself on Twitter. Also, I do have some news in this is not an April Fools. Relation from the from the NFL draft who met with Carla Maury last night. Oh, I have that information. Okay. Have that information and an all time, great disappoints me greatly. And I love this football player. I'm very conflicted. When it comes to this guy now. All of that is next on the richeisenshow. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors. And all of you. Great listeners for supporting this podcast. Certainly couldn't do this show without either of you. 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Have as many wins as last year or the Duke basketball team three guys probably going in the top five women in the eight seventy three percent, Lakers Lakers. Wow. Nathan here in Los Angeles. Let's sneak in that phone call here on the rich Eisen show. What's up Nathan going? I think my favorite part about this particular final four group is that you've got to first timers and Virginia team that hasn't been there and what thirty five years, which is kind of stunning. When you hear that for Virginia. You would think that? It wouldn't be true. But that you have to go all the way back to the Samson days. Now is your VA has there ever won the title lacking? Today. I don't know that off the top of my head Nathan, but I'm be. Yeah. We got a three three out of four chance at a first time champion which would be pretty enjoyable too. Well, and appreciate the call Nathan. I just don't know CBS is probably like or where our friends with Warner media as well would wish that Zahn, what is still being in it. Yeah. They've never won. They've never won. So I mean, we'll see how the ratings look out, but anybody can win it. Absolutely. Anybody can win it. We'll see who's who's intrigue by all of it. It's only the third four parents for for Jin. How about that? Wow. Unbelievable. Chris beards coming up from Texas Tech in a second. And then Sean Payton as well from the saints. So Tom Brady's joined Twitter as we all know, he he he's been on Instagram forever and a day, but he has joined Twitter. He's got the blue checkmark. We also know that he is him. Not just because it's the blue checkmark, but Twitter is sending emails to anybody in the business saying that's really him. Right. Okay. And his first tweet is that he's retired. I'm retiring in my spare time, I'll be tweeting has Chang hashtag L J. Now, it's April. I it is. He got us with the funny. It is not a retirement announcement. He's not tweeting in his spare time. Does anybody? Who knows? It's a April Fools joke knows what l f g stands for. It's it's hope they they will. It's let's go with the F Radin four. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. That's his his I guess his cheer with with Ataman in the rest of the cheer team. The patriots did respond with a Steve Carell Jif from the often look at every book everybody's going to send to humor night out. I got a text from a very good friend of mine. Okay. Who is in Dallas Texas last night. Dallas Texas saying I'm in a restaurant. Okay. Carla Maury is having dinner looks like his family's with him to who was he with. With whom was Kyle Mary dining Jon Gruden. Do you love I told you I told you that the rain Torian take Cuyler Murray? There's no way he's getting past Arizona at one. I I mean, obviously, there's a dumb and dumber chance. But if the raiders trade up to number one, they have the firepower to do it. Wow. Jon Gruden now. He's in a restaurant. And I'm telling you Arizona in order to take Murray and get the most they can for Rosen needs to have dinner like that with Nick Bosa stat fast where everybody could see it. Got to do it. So you got they are being told they already had dinner with those. They Don with Nick. Okay. Do it again all week Charlie inflow Friday, he called me. News. That's what they gotta do. This was last Jordan Alice last night between this out Jon Gruden with Carla Maury in Dallas, everybody should see it talking about it. And I'm saying to this microphone coast to coast internationally on Biard live at happened. And then there's this piece of news that I don't I don't know what to make of it. 'cause I love this guy. He is a Walter Payton man of the year. He is one of the best human beings I've ever met, and I love Jason Witten, but hold on a minute. I love him. Love him. He showed up to the Texas sports hall of fame this weekend. And he was to use the phrase of Elaine from Seinfeld bald. No hair. That's a very bold nail. I found out about it. Because people are tweeting. He looks like rich Eisen little thick thicker thicker, but the meeting terms of the hair. Yeah. Like tight is sunburn have same similar hair. Now last time we saw among football. He looked like Howard Cosell. Gene, katie's. Okay. And so on saying this who in this man's life told him being bowled on Monday night. Football's a bad thing. Thank you. Who said? And I'll be honest with you here. I gave the caveat of how much I love him. Sweat spent a sweetheart of a man. But if he had trouble being himself on Monday night football, if he had trouble being natural on Monday night football, perhaps it's because of the thing head. Right. Getting into his brain. How could you feel uncomfortable? I am Hawaiian when you know, deep down that thing on your head is not you. I feel like, Elaine. I'm riveted office head. I hate this. And is what I think of it throat it out the window the homeless guy to put on his head. That was my first reaction when I saw this weekend. What's up with Witton during football? We just assumed he got a paint job. That's fine. But just fine. It happens. It's just I just got upset like. I think I could do well on Monday night football. If given the chance and what I paint what I do that. Now, I am who I am. Although I'm thinking about the restore. So I'm just saying here who's the person who's like, you know, Jason it's your first big opportunity in the booth. That's just not working, really. And if it's his lovely family. I say to them enjoy what you see right here. That's a fear. I'll start of a man. Yeah. My head to look like his right now. It's like it's like I'm looking in the mirror with thousand fewer catches. I'm not a feel about it. You know, you should feel besmirched as a member of the brotherhood Dion in our lack tell me differently. Got that off by waiting. 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CLAB 003: Predicting the coming season from the opener to the Finals w/ 76ers pod Garbage Into Gold

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CLAB 003: Predicting the coming season from the opener to the Finals w/ 76ers pod Garbage Into Gold

"The only welcome everybody inside a C. L. Pod on mark upside there where it's like you know obviously a two way contract is a no-brainer and then leaves a little flux there without that last spot now and honestly the kitchen just keep betting on himself because he's shown flashes that he can be a serious rotation player at worth is going to be ended we're still showing some signs of struggling particularly defensively and it just makes you wonder exactly how end the front office was wise and signing him I'm actually surprised that convinced him into a two way deal there was some rumble might not accept less than than a full deal unusually would be normally this kind of thing would matter at all but they may actually need some people deepen the bench particularly if somebody higher up laundry room behind those first six seven guys for for guys to make an impact and some of those some of those roles like I mean we've talked about this before on the pod before guys but we'll we'll get into that in a little bit but before the season kicks off we do have some big news and no pun intended Taco fall obviously but I mean he's GonNa either way he'd be spending most of the season in Portland Maine red claws so I don't think it really makes too much of a difference other than salary now just because I mean he's been pretty ridiculous and athleticism is off the charts this defense is pretty damn good too and I think that's really the thing normally on a celtics team particularly Celtics last season so you know having having the right mix of guys from top to bottom is probably a little more so funny more I mean Basketball Games actually count what is then yeah Nah hey listen listen we had some fun this preseason now time to get excited about some of these appearances any extended missing time it's like the Celtics may have like a logjam in terms of forward wing players at the front of the rotation but there's sharpshooter Max Strauss versus devante green essentially right he looks he looks pretty good distrust can shoot too so I think green is going to be the one that edges that is attracting the front office is that they can put a guy out there in the deportation medium rotation some situations who will have a clue how to function everyone listening is probably already knows signed a two way deal with the Celtics after the Celtics Move Max Strauss essentially to the main roster but we'll talk about that in a second greeny get the chance going at the end of the game we're up twenty forgotten playing basketball for what five six years it could turn out that he that he is an NBA caliber player. But I think there's bench is going to look great yes sure it's not that important normally but this season a lot of guys are getting a lot of a lot more minutes than they would inge guy just because of what you can do this physical gift so I'm pretty excited even if we're not going to see these at worst he's like the fun guy to come in you know the scallops for a guy like Semioli well now now that there's a guy like grant Williams around rookie obviously a little bit of a learning curve there kind of could fill a similar role he's not necessarily you know guys like wanamaker and Odelay I mean we've seen Brad kind of hesitant to play the younger guys a lot of times when we have competitive means but so TACO fall sign a two way deal filling up the second slot next to trauma waters Yelstin thoughts on the big TACO. I think because as we've already mentioned Gordon Hair can opt out of his deal and what seems to be dominating Celtics new cycles right now Jalen Brown is in the absolutely particularly given the fact that Stevens lows to tinker and this is you know this is a roster ready made for doing the kinds of things that he likes to do in terms of tinkering we've seen Carson Carson Edwards ridiculous the other night in trae waters who's on a two way deal looks like a competent NBA point guard already so no in two thousand nine of well we're talking it's been ten years since then he's even extended qualifying offer like this before the season defensively I mean we're we're seeing not to get too far into what we've seen preseason so far but a Lotta guys who were coming further along than they have been we just three in like July you can probably do a few more things and how quickly he catches on I think things like that are going to be there is that barrier we need to keep in the back of our minds win session yeah exactly how this team's going to function particularly looking at things like for court deficiency situation but I mean a year ago this time we were talking about you know if somebody coming back if we'll have him what do you think what's your what's your impression of the situation an extension like this I should say that's got to be a huge at least a vote of confidence to Jalen right and I think that's Danny saying hey look we believe in you and it's a extension talks that are probably not going to be successful everything sounds gravy right now everyone's saying all the right things he's cool with the situation Dany schools to fall back on their veterans that you know can at least play the positions but I I really think beginning of the year we're going to see a little more than younger guys than traditionally we do lashes out the back end of that rotation and you know some of these young guys I mean we saw some of them were we'll get into these guys in a second but some of the performances I don't WanNa see anymore assets walk out the door and we can't afford to to just depend on things like cap space even in light of Boston's recently improved you'll have a decision to make at that point but I don't think there's really any sense in throwing huge numbers Adam when you don't know maybe just this is probably the number he's going to get even the wave is playing out so far with jail the thing for him Danny hasn't done a rookie extension before with anybody since when what Rajon teams he's guys there's just so much more upside than the guys that are in front of them that you kind of got got to give him a shot anyways right and you know if things don't work out you always have those guys about how philly Milwaukee figure into our regular season starting lineup because we're going to need most of the regular season I think to determine who can I'm not sure how opening night is going to pan out in terms of who we're going to start and who I mean we'll we'll be talking later on in the pod with some of looking at what are we even have any effectiveness against those two teams and they're bigger larger FRONT COURT AND General Rosters overall I do think that you are good at landing quality off reagents so you know like there's really literally no reason whatsoever not let this thing play out doesn't play lights out next year right shallow market if he even if he plays like he did last year he's GonNa be he's going to be what twenty two year old kid move our friends from the philly media sphere on this very topic for the lab but in terms of we really shouldn't be thinking serious problem for us with maybe Detroit giving some fits and moments as well let the young guys what are you thinking about you brought up Carson Edwards Bucks so far on the Front court the younger what do you think the front porch of starting five opening night in general I don't know what onto something in terms of tastes from what we've seen from preseason he has been the most competition executing with the style of play that Brad ten select to play in the play that really fits with the size of this roster it's going to be a problem dealing with these bigger bodies but mercifully those are the only two teams we have an east I think they're going to present so kind of maybe a nudge that you know if you think worth more than that than let's see it you know I think that he's restricted free agent anyways and someone else throws a ton of money on them then and get a garden like you know I don't know how wanamaker is doing lobs but I mean trimming water's already has that kind of you know summer Celtics loved coming off the bench and just roasting second totally plan that role that like Isaiah Thomas like was ideal for right I mean and is h Thomas played himself into now I mean obviously he has a confidence that he's GonNa hit them all any any did and it's like I kind of shooting he's already the best year on the team pretty much I think that he really and that's really what the crux of it is like he was a free agent I would be panicking all onboard the trade train just because as much as I love the one of his biggest fans out there very deployable in in short bursts so I think we'll be seeing more of him by the end of the season but even even immediately I could see him easily getting eight to twelve minutes at night and we're talking about spot up threes here I mean he came up bang like and that was just his way of being like look I'm Gonna I'm GonNa fire these off and hopefully being a obviously a bigger part of of the team I think Carson Edwards can fit into that role that debt like they kind of probably she warned Isaiah four in the first place Edwards and this goes back to us talking about how sometimes celtics the rookies they don't really get a lot of play in the beginning of the seasons I mean we saw even in like Jalen first year you didn't he didn't really become a huge factor until later in the season and I feel like this was Carson Edwards is like I'm GonNa shoot these and I'm going to hit them and you're so against against that'd be alright I or at least I think he's GonNa play the bulk of the minutes with the starting unit might be I guy off the bench but I mean who's going to put Robin could start it right up my thinking is it's probably going to be Daniel Thais maybe not opening night just because there's a matchup he's a terrible metric for Philly in the wall right the Williams brothers so rob Williams I I've been in his corner all summer long I think he's got some huge sensitive units basically the worst fits of season apart from that what do you think a Williams both of them lowered our speaking after play me more than you think you're going to write like like he didn't want to be buried on the bench and that's kind of an eye opener for Bradley Oh wow look at this instant offense very valuable rotation player maybe even starter if you can really develop some of these additional skills but he needs reps and as has been pointed out Liam's out there I mean Kanter is GonNa get murdered by Embiid anyways that is going to be probably our toughest match up in Eastern Conference's Philly I'm really mystic vibe to him and I could see even though those guys would be just an absolute sieve on defense I could see them just giving giving opposing second unit which was six-man instant offense you know microwave scoring off the bench you know the offense goes cold you bring this guy and he can shoot from anywhere param with cantor they may be able to but what about grant grant I think he's still has issues defensively but he's looking like maybe one of our best big because you know he is definitely not big enough to take on some of these larger guys like we've been mentioning feeling Milwaukee Yeah like like he's the guy always about maybe then you know as grant- develops defensively maybe he'll get more of an opportunity to play but I think of the rookies aside from Romeo because postseason player he's going to be he still hasn't shown real great skills in defending away from the basket but he is going to be a potentially what would what did you see that was so interesting about Mr Perdue the explosion of offense in the third quarter eight threes to me this was caused -sential in terms of being a factor defensively obviously the law he's all I mean I'm excited to see him in the regular season and actually wouldn't be in good shape these two teams in the same division have been linked a lot it's been nearly two years since we've all spoken and the tables have turned as we I think of of them he's going to of the two Williams I think that Williams I think rob gets more run this year only because I think they're looking they're going to be trying out all the center I think it's going to be kind of out not that he's not GonNa play but I think he's GonNa play less than Edwards to begin the season that would be my my wild wild absolutely can't he's his nascent passing game that we saw glimpses of summer league that could make him a very good player I don't know you know how and make this is really what we have like four different guys that could potentially be the starting center I'm not to start the season I mean by the season's end any one of those guys you get some real run this year I feel like he played pretty well last year when he did get opportunities which were far and few between maybe a little more towards the end of the year but you know I think he can ball I obviously I think they're going to ease him in only because he's coming back from surgery he could essentially be an afterthought in the beginning of the year just for that alone garbage into gold podcast a Philadelphia Seventy sixers podcast affiliated Philadelphia's portion how you guys doing have you been tables are you might think based on what we've lost and it's quite a bit to some of your benefit that I would be some pretty down spirits not that he didn't think that that was the case but this is this is him in my is saying like he he just went out there because you shoot he shot half of those from the parking lot took one of the most important aspects of our team were the last several years incorporated into a frontline that is to be completely honest giving me fits thinking about they're only because Edwards can fill a specific role unquestionably so grant finding what it is that he's I mean obviously he does a lot of things well so to make that happen in the first place but the thing that I think is universally accepted in I am the biggest supporter of is the notion that you really are are are on our end the battles head to head have been exciting over the past few years especially the last one that we saw earlier Horford Aron Baynes a lot of change is so general outlook our you feeling about the Celtics heading into the twenty thousand nine hundred twenty season us a two when it comes to odelay obviously he's not the brick wall odelay is always going to get the run early on continues to struggle offensively like you're talking mentioned there's been roster changeover drafts and different acquisitions by both teams so justin we'll start off with you know more Kyri no more kyrie irving and Al Horford on the Celtics but a lot of their talk over the past few years has been about the development of guys like Jayson tatum guys like Jalen how it's going to feast defense yeah it's it's definitely a completely different look and really not sure what to expect from the Celtics at least on against each other and up against other teams in the NBA because that's really what these two teams have been based off of over the past couple years you know you have you have had were bust kind of feel for me I would agree I I get that feeling too and without getting into the details but we're going to just yet I really feel that and just in is going to take you with these guys into the lab the breakdown philly Celtics opening night type of changeover that they saw last season so jesse how do you feel about the sixers outlook going into the season I'm feeling great I mean this is your season the the things aligned for you about as well as they possibly could in terms of both the east end in general and you know the question for me elise really different yeah it's good to be here to reconnect and talk some sixers Celtics opening night really exciting times or late last season but you know going over to the Philadelphia side of things there's a lot that's changed over there to know the sixers had pretty much even stronger than they were the year before will kind of break down the roster and what changed a little bit but I'm feeling really optimistic I I mean it's almost a championship three teams in one season last year with the moves that they made to acquire Tobias Harris Jimmy Butler so now they have a roster that almost certainly won't have that I thought the roster last year was obviously a title contender and you know they shall four bounces on the rim shy of that but this year I think the teams looking a little bit different than it was a year ago do these guys factor into their rotation right away or are they guys that are going to have to earn minutes to start the season yeah well actually be there on opening night so I'm hoping you're right the tables are turned and they send me home happy just as long as we don't you know launching Confetti too quickly you step into a bigger role once he becomes more familiar with the speed of the NBA but for now I think just having him as instant offense off the bench to really power really been involved in a lot of trades especially when it comes to draft night especially over the last few years starting with Markelle foltz in two thousand seventeen around with the sixers obviously you have Joel Embiid Ben Simmons and all of the guys that they added there but these two teams thanks mark I am here with old friends at the pub brandon after Jesse Lurch from what is now be a successful season from them from your point of view well for Edwards is he's really going to be following in the footsteps as many have compared to Eddie gene and now this year with the sixers and Celtics exchanging picks so the draft is really the first thing that we're going to touch on with regard to changes to these teams the celtics you guys are seeing exactly how you guys deal with what you do have in what you're able to add later if needed it'll be interesting to see how these young cores also go up anthony by many people is probably better if he also spent a fair amount of the season up in Portland and it's going to be one sick Portland team some of these guys are spending as much time as guys to find somebody to be the guy sees a starts Wednesday the twenty third seven thirty he figured it'd be a little fun to invite our friends from philly realistically he's not going to be any closing units for offense at least maybe if his defense really grows by the end of the season you could see him well it really depends on what you think these players should have in terms of roles and I think as long as we have some measure expectations that they will be able to house or really any kind of microwave you know get you bucket off the bench in a hurry type of player he might be able to traded the twentieth pick to Philadelphia for the number twenty four and thirty three picks to select grant Williams and Carson Edwards so justin starting with the with the Celtics guys that they have different skill sets defensively and offensively so for you if they do end up working their way into a rotation what would can you probably with Ns Kanter I think that in that context that would be a successful season can work as we have to about fifteen minutes a game maybe even review immediately in a small rolled could expand into a fairly major one for one or both by season's end then I think you have some some reasonable they have or should be expected to contribute meeting kind of major way particularly considering how late they were taken right and when it comes to those -tations for both of these players I definitely see big things in their future in terms of longevity in maybe even ceiling but for now particularly with so many things so when one of the things that you mentioned was adjusting to the speed of the NBA with regard to defense one of the rookies taking the class that the sixers took with the twentieth as far is Williams Gu's he's going to be facing a much bigger challenge in terms of adapting his role to either be more kind of a combo forward unquestioned with with the Celtics Roster and basically really entire team is going to be organized after so many departures I don't think it's have played more of a center at the collegiate level he's Kinda got changes entire skill set the way he defends the way that he responds in I think that depending on how well he can adapt to being a small bowl frontcourt player specifically of five may be able to carve out additional minutes for himself to the level of fifty maybe even twenty minutes if things go very badly for some of the other big at Boston hood brought on but you fair to expect more than you know about ten minutes a game maximum for both of them in supporting roles that can still be very effective just I don't I don't but I'm actually pretty excited I'm a Yukon Fan we've got Kemba Walker he's about as good as we're GONNA get a Kyrie Irving replacement really it's a small miracle we many nick courtesy of the Celtics after that trade Was Matisse Table Out of Washington a defensive specialist Jesse on our previous episodes you have to have been a seamless transition for him so far and I think nobody really expected that right away we all knew that that's why he was being billed the season also in kind of a six man status that's about the best I expect from him but as long as he can stay on the four defensively being only six feet tall I think that that is a win for him been too shy in expressing your excitement for this guy and in the if the preseason has any indication as to what he'll bring to the court he's going to be a special edition to the core of the sixers and there's always certain prospects that come up who looked better on film they tested combine guys that don't run a fast for you don't have a great vertical but on tape there I'm in there as one of the beat the teams better defenders but he still has a long way to go and realistically I think ten minutes again a game for him particularly the first half team yeah the way I think about it is I like doing a lot of NFL draft predictions and going into tape when that time of year comes around IRV liberal defended the NBA speed again with him to and really any rookie it's going to mean that he's going to make mistakes that are going to get him taken off the floor around the ball they're always making the play and Matisse viable is that kind of player where he's so instinctual on the defensive end of the court that it seems with my man Justin Quinn and we are less than a week away from the NBA season started just my man how you failing I don't even know what to do with name it's going to be very very different to his offense will stay largely the same but the the proportion of where he gets his shot is going to change and combining that with learning as the best defensive player in that draft this past year but I don't think anyone really figured he would be as good as he looks already going through preseason and I mean if he's just being asked to shoot spot up threes he seems to be comfortable doing that right now too in the way the sixers like run their offense the numerous reports towards Danny ainge saying that he would pick Jason Tatum no matter what happened in that draft but looking back on things now ends up being a two way player and able so a lot of sixers fans didn't really know what to take out of draft night but it looks now like I said we know preseason is preseason but if it's any indication thighbone looks to be a solid addition to the sixers for sure Jesse I wasn't sure if you had title NBA producer Marquel faults we still don't even know what he is like he still he's a we don't know what's going on in Orlando with them because have been talking about or were talking about going into draft night so the sixers went into the night with five or six picks and they leave with two one that Oh and how everything has panned out for each team Jesse will start with you who do you think is better off here in terms of that direct swap six more or less you can look at it this way traded Marquel faults and Matisse Stibal to Philadelphia for Jason Tatum Grant Williams and Carson Edwards there the part of me that regrets him going you guys Celtics fans seem to be pretty excited about the draft because they took two players that sixers fans or at least sixers twitter fans you have to say the Celtics Jason Tatum you know as much as sixers fans refuse to like him he is a solid NBA player and I even said Celtics teams in the past have been I don't WanNa say they lack offensively because they definitely didn't but their identity was definitely on the defensive under the court so I think it as they the Orlando Magic Fan seemed to be going through the same cycle that we did a sixers fan with Markelle faults where you get these ghostly videos of him shoot going into that draft that coming out of that day one the sooner they'll hit the court for their first Games he would be the best player in that draft on the first day of the Season Cancer Carson Edmondson Grant Williams they're all they're all scores of the BAUGH and they're all suspect defensively so I mean and that's not that sense it's going to be a very different Boston Celtics team and we're kind of seeing that makeover take place so before we move on from the draft topic looking back on things the celts now I think his feeling a little bit limited but he's definitely a quality player seeing that he's got two years now of being gene jumpers and then he gets in a game he doesn't shoot the jumpers and he looks uncomfortable so I mean I'm not sure if Marquel faults is fixed signed to like throw jabs or anything that's just looking at their games they're all very excellent on the offensive end of the court and the AW lacking defensively after a both guys I would've actually been OK with the sixers taking it twenty four how they moved up four and five world also been okay with twenty four had he fell above board like if you go back and search articles at the time before we knew he was going to draft whom I was really on board with idea of drafting you still at this point hasn't developed a jump shot really I never understood why there would be two primary ball handlers on one team at the same time I where he was a primary ball handler he had the ball in his hand most of the time at Washington didn't really see a whole lot of him off ball and with a guy like Ben Simmons I and draft in a lot of a lot of celtics fans did as well and even though I'm really happy with how things ended up working out in long run there's always going to be tatum just seemed like a more natural fit for the sixers and ABS as far as the draft turned out I think I agree with Jesse here I think the Celtics definitely one the Brandin you know well how big of a fan I was a false come down ended the beginning I wanted to take him in that draft though I wanNA tatum actually I to be completely graf trade part of it but as the teams are right now I think it's pointing in the sixers direction and and terms of headlines over the summer and Free Agency was Al Horford he had been a staple of the Celtics for a few seasons but we've learned recently for alternate resigned to I was pretty sure we were going to take him and you know my biggest problem with him at that time was he was taking shots at Washington that was when that trade happened where the sixers traded from number three to number one and I personally I didn't really like it from the start because Foltz is that guy aw but I think what the Celtics did it's kind of I don't WanNa say they've changed their identity but really if you look at those additions Kemba Walker and his cat anything else to add no I did WanNa talk about the sky's the Celtics did get 'cause I was very very big fan of Carson Edwards angry and Williams young into the big staple part of Boston's offense over the past few years absolutely and I mean it was totally tampering but I mean so Boston offer from Boston and indicated that he may have stayed if you knew that Kemba Walker was in Boston's plans but he ended up going to Philadelphia keeping his word I didn't think he was going to be able to replicate NBA but not for the reasons clearly that ended a painting out. Yeah I think I I re I remember exactly where I'm an article that Horford had spoken with the sixers prior to free agency officially beginning this is a report we don't know that actually happened or not he did actually have uh I'm okay with that but one of the one one of the former celtics players and current sixers players that made a big splash and so justin your thoughts on how all of this ended up going not sure if you view it as tampering or not but really really really a aplenty of times on its own so that part of tampering I I don't have a problem with frankly speaking I think it's silly the problem that I have Pelicans the Celtics and the Lakers for much of last season including just an absolute should show in the media that you know did damage to and immediately after being tampered with and we're kidding ourselves if we think that Boston doesn't an hasn't done exactly the same thing we'll see but I don't really have a problem with that and I think the whole tampering thing was overblown in fact once that report you mention came out which I think is probably pretty accurate it again to report we have no way of knowing but the way I'm looking at it is basically the AL did L. Does the ability of fans to watch players play the sport they already have signed contracts to participate in that crap needs to stop there are ways and they may have already solved this offer and you know they had reservations and maybe they'll prove right we'll find out about how well he'll age I think personally he will age fairly well for Y'all under that contract on the same San Antonio Spurs so yeah that's my take Yes oh Al Horford a guy that really caused a guy like Joel embiid it when it comes to Al Horford despite his age the four-year deal not only adds a solid durable veteran to the court but to the locker room as well the sixers still have a young core and he also provides some insurance for Joel embiid who has had a history of injuries so Jesse talk about how Philadelphia the last year won't be be worth the money you're paying him but you know that's how contracts work when you want to get the premier talent is going to drive what you need to contend you got to pay fits and now they're going to be on the same team we've seen them on the court a few times already in preseason action but still a little bit to work out with regard to on court you know we got al when he didn't get the years in the money Atlanta should have given him and so they knew what was going to happen if they didn't come with her but I do not think Kyrie Irving success in Boston is as much as it was without having Al Horford as a reliable outlet and aw with this whole tampering business is what we saw from rich Paul and Clutch boards holding to other teams really three teams hostage the pairings that the sixers are going to go with should be interesting as well I'm not sure how often we'll see and beat and Horford on the court aside from when the star yards with speed and that can shoot in the mid range and and get to the rim really have been troublesome for them Kemba Walker is one of those guys that has burned the sixers really early chances to go super small and tried to out shoot outmaneuver you I really don't see any which way that even with a renewed is one of the strengths of the Celtics and that has always been something that Philadelphia has had some trouble with especially prior to this season those small into a guy like Kemba Walker who has a little bit of a different game so justin do you think Boston is better moving forward with him or or not offers themselves are out there but we've seen the preseason a little bit that Horford and Simmons have been paired together while Richardson and embiid have seen a little bit more time the rumblings were that he gave you all his word before he found out about Kemba being a possibility maybe he actually did know the Campbell was a possibility but he wasn't a backout on you in basically will benefit with him now in the mix I mean I think the guy is so much on and off the court that it's just it's like a serious coup for this team the other than surprisingly to many people who've seen Kemba in Charlotte I think Kemba is a better distributor in a better floor general visually than can walkers but when you consider the Kyri you know like he gets a lot of bad press there's many times in the past so one of the biggest adjustments for Boston will be the loss of Kyri as we mentioned before and transition aside from even helping embiid develop I think you'll help Ben Simmons developed to because I know I've said it so many times was beating a dead horse at this point in New England and he's earned some of it but as I'm sure you've heard fairly often last season's disaster was not even close having Al Horford as a guy to go around and set picks and screens for him to be able to do his game off the dribble so to me I'm just thinking about Ben not only take him from Boston and weaken Boston in that sense but now you have the perfect guy to mentor Mba do you have the perfect complement to an embiid and I think a handful of wins just on its own that we would have lost from the difference between the two players in terms of overall talent but beyond that I think people are going to and sometimes disastrous live so in terms of just the overall relationship of the players in terms of chemistry I think going to be vastly improved and that's going to let us as the season went along those two guys no longer with the sixers but now they have a guy and Josh Richardson who's a great two way player and they added Yeah I think we're going to have a really hard time even sneaky sneaking away with one regular season win against you guys yeah and you mentioned speed and quickness was like that as a celtics fan how do you go about attacking that and how do you think that they could take advantage of maybe not having speed on that aspect of the court the price sometimes on veteran talented isn't always going to be worth at the end of the contract and that's okay you know in Boston wanted and that's okay too I think that the paint as well and like I mentioned before the sixers didn't have anybody to really cover that before in JJ rettig Jimmy Butler helped shooting wise when you lose Jj redick one of the most prolific three point shooters in the last five plus years in the NBA and Jimmy Butler guy wins getting more space on the floor from a guy like Al Horford using his knowledge in his savvy to really open up the court for them yeah and I think that Nice to fully on him we didn't know a lot of things that were going on and maybe the poorly but in terms of what we see on the court their games are not that different Al Horford as well Philly also revamped their bench this off season with Jj and Butler gone from the sixers there's bit of avoid when it comes I think for a lot of reasons mainly you know kyri is a supremely talented player for being completely honest he's a little bit better of a player in on together Justin when you see twin towers we've heard a lot of big men be called before if they're duo on the floor when you see at twin tower is to shut creation and three point shooting so Jesse you know we talked about the Boston side of losing Kyri and Al Horford but where the sixers go who could take over and close games late for the sixers last season I think the biggest uptick your honesty based off the guys that were here last season what am I think he was shooting in the almost mid forties from three last year at the time of his trade and then you also have Mike Scott off the bench who I think in that he will only try to run with the team on his back when there is no other choice unlike urban seems to do it whenever the hell he feels like it be surprised when they see that when he is surrounded with talent comparable to the level of what he's used to playing with like he was when he was at uconn he's actually quite speed and are shooting to get around passed an overview that's really our only chance and to be completely frank I think you know not to get into you a Marcus Morris on I love him to God blesses jail but that was an some dirty business going on without jumping apt moving the ball around in different others in his even expressed excitement about seeing his usage rate drop in recent weeks yeah so we might see is definitely Tobias Harris this is a guy that was playing at a near all-star level elway before he came over to Philadelphia and in La he was option assists attacking the cup but we are seeing from this younger version of the Celtics it would just not going to get their against you guys so we really do need to use our mobility missing are the bench and also a closer now the bench I think it's very solvable at the trade deadline there's always a couple of veterans and plenty of different ways to score whereas last year it was pretty much embiid has its shoot it rennick has to go with his dribble handoff her Butler needs and they're not going to replace someone Jimmy Butler but I think the makeup of this team is so different from their makeup last year but you can still find plenty of ways to score I am in Philadelphia he was option d maybe even eat depending on where you put Ben Simmons and that pecking order because it really went embiid rettig a little bit of a different Kemba Walker I'm sure he'll burn his fair share of teams with his scoring touch and his ability to really weave his way through entrust points so I think that's a much better situation for the sixers I think they're stronger as a whole even if they don't have those marquee guys that they did last year it depending on how things play out but I think the closer for me looks like a really big problem for you guys if you really want to compete for a title and I'm curious outlier and then either Sims R. Harris depending on the type of game that replying so I think he moves way up as he should and he gets to show off that shooting stroke Mike Scott James Innocent Kyle Quinn's those are three guys with legitimate attitude and I think that's something that they've lacked you can chip in Muslim reliable shooting he might not be able to light him up quite at the pace that he did last season but he'll still be a reliable enough three point shooter I think Jocelyn I have one quick question I wanted to pose to Jesse and for me as an outside perspective to big things bread and butter for this team is stopping teams and I think is now even with embiid off the floor you still have Horford in there and then when they bring in their guys off the bench interesting can be that Guy James Sheshona shooting touch you're not gonNA replace JJ radical on the perimeter that just be ridiculous to suggest pre Butler and pre Harris was clear that embiid was the guy that we're going to trust and there's big moments different spin on what you're asking situations where like team last year that wasn't really talked about a whole lot was the Indiana Pacers now two different rosters last year's Pacers to do what he does I think legitimately have five guys in the starting lineup that can produce points and there's one two maybe three guys on the bench so I think that's a defensive line up where the sixers will win games on that end it's you know I think you're gonna see that really be the on both teams that have been under the magnifying glass more so than the other guys on the teams and that's Ben Simmons and Jason Tatum we nations this year it looks like but they're not starting five is so strong defensively that I wouldn't be surprised if they end up with the best net rating and in Harris Horford and in Bead Harris being the worst defender and I mean he's he's not like it's not like he's a slouch he's not a turnstile the NBA and that's not even a little bit of home or ism that's just looking around disagree I don't disagree I think you guys are easily in the running for top three different defense if not better and your offense isn't going to be bad either it's I would assume top ten and maybe even higher I think it's going to be some of those we both know from our respective fan bases what we hear what their flaws are what their strengths are but when it comes to these guys reaching their full potential this year sixers but that was a team that prided themselves on the defense and you saw a lot of games where they just held opponents to ninety five points or less which in the NBA do you think that there's someone onboard now who you think will emerge as you're closer or if there's someone that you have your eye on or just a the concept that you need a closer look what are your thoughts on that I think embiid's the clear choice to be the guy think everything that Brett Brown has said everything that you've kind of seen against in in the World Cup of the United States nor fans to preseason lineups but we all know it's not the same thing and it's going to be ability to get into the paint without being stripped and he's showing signs of it but this is again an international play in preseason play and in the past years I think they've been really have it until they're making that run last year when Mike Scott God here when Jimmy Butler dot here so I think there's actually a little bit of that so you can pick up on the cheap on minimum from buyouts from from waivers whatever so I think you're going to be able to solve that problem no issues even if might you might not even need what does it what is it GonNa take for Jason Tatum Justin to to reach that ceiling Jesse mentioned earlier in the earlier in the show of all I just wanted to before Jesse goes here Al Horford actually spoke to the media on the day that we're recording this speaking about how the team going to become a more efficient player he's GonNa pick shots better he's gotta hit them better than you did last season but most importantly he's really got to expand his game particularly hit the number two option for a championship team and to date you know neither has shown much more than intermittent number three kind of option on title team steps forward are not that hard to demonstrate when you're playing against elite talent no offense to the players that we played you're I think the closer isn't necessarily going to be on the offensive end because with a lineup with Simmons Richardson Super Great with some of his teammates and I'm real curious to see what y'all think about his his well first of all I he is not really seeing a whole lot more these days but when you talk about teams like the Celtics and the sixers there has gotten together for different Team bonding exercises and he mentioned that Ben Simmons has been one of the guys official for him to show some major steps forward not in every aspect of his game needs to start showing real development for him that has initiated these things you we've seen them go out and play paintball they recently went to go see the joker together as a team so one of the things that Benson vigor coming off the bench that they've been missing I think there's so much defensive skill and I left out Matisse Thia who is definitely be using offensive also going to be really interesting season for the Celtics for me I am super curious to hear how y'all settle Simmons's role within the team because into early be the franchise player that they'd hoped he'd been or for that matter if not him Jaylen Brown one of the two of them has to show flashes and being that kind of seems to be what they're going to ask of him he's not really going to be asked to do much more than stand on the line and feel to pass and put a shot up I had my eye on they've really been at the top of the conversation with regard to the Eastern Conference and the NBA landscape over there to you over the last few years and and really there are two young players team and really only in flashes not consistently so that there needs to become consistent from at least one of them probably tatum but you know again there are many people their instincts so Jesse I guess I'm not sure what your thoughts on that are but give us your thoughts and also what you expect from Ben Simmons ends did say when he returned from his summer work for Sixers Media Day was he fell back in love with the game of basketball what caused him to is in play that he knows that the team goes as him and Joel embiid goes even though they have different personalized once they get on the court it could end up being brown make that step forward depending on how bear used how they fit into this team and a lot of things that aren't really in their control fall out of love we can speculate on that for for hours but but really fell in love with the game again and he mentioned in numerous interviews prior to pre in his shooting we all know that the next big step for him but there's also some usage issues that we hear rumbles about over in Celtics fandom him not really getting the jumper is one of the things he needs to improve on but aside from that what else he might need to do in order to reach that next level all dressing addressing justin concern. There's I would just say it's all overblown having watched this group or those two together for three years I've never seen any disputes in him do with his distribution ability that's going to be a key for the sixers this year so both these teams have seen their fair share of changes we've talked I would just say that I don't see it personally with Ben Simmons this season I think he has to take some type of step forward savings will have figured out how to use their bigs well enough to steal a game particularly if it's later in the season in perhaps y'all what about the roster turnover and everything as we all know the sixers and Celtics go head to head four times beginning with opening night just a few as a way on October twenty third so we're going to move onto our predictions segment with who wins the head to head season ABC or ESPN and we have to hear constantly through the night about how Joel embiid doesn't practice he's on a minute restriction when he's been practice Tori find some answer internally I just do not see how we are going to adapt to stop offensively we might be able to series so justin we'll start with you gave a little bit of a clue they played four games what are your thoughts on who will come ahead on that and why the national media portrayed it that way I have never seen that actually happen and I don't know where it's Reutemann it feels just like an outsider set with me for saying three one in your favor but it leaves them till we have your moved to to rectify our front court rotation issues being an offer the restriction for over a year that kind of thing for whatever reason surrounds the sixers team I really can't explain it eight when he's not in the paint that's going to be the biggest thing for him this season because if he can actually draw defenders of the Ark and then basically do what we've seen I think it's going to be a three games to one in your favor I do think the Celtics probably one of the last two months are you know cheap hadline very much in the same way where a Brandon Kentucky this too whenever the sixers get put on TNT the thing last year has stepped forward is really defense and no one talks about that they don't mentioned how much better he got on the defensive end of the court and that he is a better player in years leads him to get the respect when he's standing outside the perimeter to actually initiate the offense and without Jj Redican Jimmy Butler knockdown shots for them they're going to need all the lament were embiid and Simmons said anything bad about each other have ever looked frustrated with each other anything like that so I really don't I hear it too I've seen basing they can get so if Ben Simmons and come in and just get enough respect around the league where people can't sag off him and be playing him like he's in the stay close to peace with you guys with our offense but we just won't have the defense to county your offense and defense all right Jessi Europe even he wasn't near one but now he does need the velvet offensive game he needs the jumper not even because the team needs him to hit the jumper the team without Kyrie in the lineup because they were playing a more true version of Brad Stevens system and I think we saw that two years ago when the Celtics I don't think the Celtics will really be able to build up a front court this year but I think the issues going to be the same thing that has been and and that's Brad Stevens Verse Brown and I don't think browse a bad coach I mean I I think everyone that knows anything about me knows that I love Brown say I do think that this synergy that you know good good drafting or signing for the German Griffin Pairing in Detroit Jaanus out in Milwaukee the sixers group here there's enough there to give the Celtics fits succeeding and for me I think fifty wins is a very attainable record I write for this aren't so concerned or maybe have another bigger fish on your mind at that time I feel like we can sneak away a game but a lot of celtics fans are going to be really who actually said the same thing as just enough it'll be three one in favor of the sixers I don't have the same reasoning I us and Philadelphia in terms of record I have you guys at fifty five twenty seven for for that guide they tend to panel has has the the hoops had pod that we were a part of the other day that I have the sixers going for sixty wins but I'm GonNa make myself a little bit it's not sixers out versus last year when the Celtics I forget who eliminated them but it was that same thing where I think Kyrie's up going even to in to for for no other reason that then divisional opponents that that play each other hard so I think this will tendency to shoot his team out of games and I think he definitely did that so my issues wannabe Brad Stevens for his Brett Brown I think Brad Stevens will definitely able to get his team to beat the sixers at least once and having such a sixers killer light Kemba Walker at his disposal just reaffirms that feel so I have the sixers ahead of them I have them at fifty nine and twenty three I was really tempted to make that a sixty I know I said on but Brad Stevens has certainly had his number And I would even contest that the Celtics were a better team to hint some of the other things that's going to be one of your biggest problems of the season is Milwaukee Yeah for me I have the Sixers at fifty four twenty eight up three more just three more wins I feel like they'll probably go above that but as Jesse is very familiar with my predictions I try not to go on the overly optimistic for me yeah for me in the head to head battle just because I know how intense the sixers and Celtics Games get I think this one will it is I think that's if there's strength at the east has over the West is that the east has a much stronger group of begs I think we forty seven wins now when we move over to how that goes to the play offs I have the sixers in the one seed and I have Boston in the force be a little bit different than when they play teams outside of the division but yeah I see these go two and two but when it comes to overall records the cup to give you guys problems enough depth to keep things rolling particularly stagger have they use Yannis so I think Esi we'll start with you this time who do you think ends up with the better record and whether you have as the final records for the sixers and the Celtics astonish I'll say fifty nine and then for the Celtics I have them at around forty seven forty eight wins I just don't they're gonNA crack fifty with that foreign court away side of things I still wanna see how they look without a capable shooter Allah. Jj rettig you know they have better they have better bench even the younger teams like the Hawks I mean the magic are going to be good there are a lot of up and coming teams that are going to be tough for for a team like the Celtics so I have them with the fifth he was mentioning earlier as well in terms of spread Stephen Style of play I do think that's going to give us a couple of wins over what the general national you'd UK based Call Double Clutch UK definitely checked him out we did a season guy for the whole league and a little more optimistic for both censuses which is right around the neighborhood of what you guys are talking forty seven forty eight games but not much more than that I really think that fifty one fifty two wins would be a really thank is going to be that lack of depth that you have at the moment like I said I think to really soluble soluble solvable I think that the I don't see them getting the fifty but I still see them being in the top half of the conference right Justin what about you largely agree with Jesse has uh-huh in this situation which is rising because we have a lot of celtics fans on double clutch so I don't know the biggest thing for for you guys you guys it's containing middleton because middleton can just go off when all the attention is onions and that really is and I just have them at forty seven at thirty five no the East is no longer at the weakest conference here in the NBA there are a lot of difficult teams in the east he'd Jesse how do you have the seating in the playoffs going I have the exact same as your I think is going to go sixers Bucks Pacers Celtics Justin wins from their fifty one season fifty one win season a year ago and I have Boston at forty seven thirty five the only reason I give the sixers a couple there is covering Janas for their later matchups last year the thing that I think is going to be a problem for Austin even lower than you guys think forty six thirty six and Philly at fifty thirty two I think they are being very harsh on both in favor of Philadelphia both regular season and playoffs which is why I have Philadelphia beating the bucks in the Eastern Conference final up but the shooting side of thing is something that they're going to need to figure out you know they've looked great in the preseason but preseason is preseason so that's where I have them with regard to Boston have y'all second behind Milwaukee and I think that we're going to be a fairly strong candidate

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"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log, this is firefighter Raphael. Poor yet for firehouse subs. Introducing new firehouse pairs pair, your favorite small sub with a signature side, like the awesome, five cheese, MAC and cheese. And remember a portion of every purchase at firehouse. Subs goes towards helping first responders firehouse subs. Joy more subs. Save more lives. Participating locations only firehouse subs. Donate a minimum of one million dollars in two thousand nineteen to the firehouse subs public safety foundation by donating point one one percent of every purchase broadcasting from the Mercedes man cave. Wednesday will be the last show that we will have here. This is Dan Patrick. Great weekend. Everybody gang's all here ready to go. Lot of topics in great guests. The countdown continues the final couple of days in the man cave. We'll be often Minneapolis. We'll do some shows in New York. And then we will unveil the man cave tentatively scheduled for April nineteenth. That's a Friday, and we hope to be in the new digs and unveil that on April nineteen already. We'll have a poll question played the day stat of the day all of that coming up, and as we always do on Monday best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked. You didn't like got an update on our final four matchups. And we just decided I was talking to Pauline Seton and big pre show meeting lasted about I don't know sixty seconds, maybe ninety seconds. And I said when do we cut off the voting for the final fork, and then we will have the voting for the Hebrew national championship. And what? We decided is on Wednesday after the show Wednesday at the end of the show is when we cut off voting, and we will decide who will be playing for the Hebrew national championship in Minneapolis. And then at the end of the show right at the end of the show on Friday. We will crown are champion, but you can check out and you can vote on the app as we have Holly in Pennsylvania. John Wisconsin Keithly in Texas and Kenny in California close to two hundred thousand votes so far for the final fork matchups already guest list coming up. We'll talk to Bruce Pearl Auburn head coach in an hour. Chris Harrison, host of the bachelor he is one of the leading contenders to win the celebrity bracket challenge brought to you by subway update. Those coming up also Reggie Miller. He's been doing doing double duty tournament duty. Of course, NBA on TNT. Doug godly from Fox Sports will recap what happened over the weekend? And as we head to the final four in Minneapolis the four. Elite games lead eight games were decided by total of eighteen points. That's the smallest combined margin all time in that round. It was just the third time that all four regional finals were decided by single digits. You can go back to two thousand five in two thousand ten remember when we talked about not much drama in here not many other players to see Zion. Williamson he was going to be all chalk. So if I would've told you when the tournament started when it's all said and done you gotta five a three a two in a one. How about the one? Would you've said Virginia they were the least pick number one see who were the other five seeds. Mclovin. Could you check that out? And you got some football schools thrown in here. Which is interesting. You know, when you think of Auburn, Texas Tech Michigan state to a certain degree, but Tom is who's done such a wonderful job there. And then you've got Virginia in there. So the final four is set. And this is just like we all predicted, right? Michigan state Virginia Texas Tech in Arbor. Michigan state. We're used to seeing them get to this far this level Virginia hasn't been to the final four since nineteen Eighty-four. Auburn in Texas Tech have never been here before. So it should be site exciting. I'm sure that CBS is probably going certainly would be nice to have Zion Williamson in here. I mean, if you could say, can we can we have a mulligan here? Can we get Zion on Texas Tech or something hire him as? Than analysts. Are we do that? There you go. That's a good idea. And let's go down to Zion. Williamson who's there with Tom Izzo zone. He is available. He did hint that he may go pro though didn't now. Yes, he hinted at it. Yeah. He hinted that. You know, here's another thing. You're looking for some excitement. You may not have known who was on Purdue. I mean, you found out Carson Edwards is on Purdue. We found out nobody else's on Purdue. But you are watching something ex. You know, unbelievably exciting Texas Tech is an interesting team. But when I say boy they play smothering defense. Okay. Auburn Auburn will put up some shots. They'll put up some threes here. Michigan state. You know, you look at Tom Izzo when he does it with injuries and he got his team back here. Again, if the tournament is taught us anything it's at this level. It doesn't really matter who's playing you just want exciting games because you invest in those teams at least in that moment. And watching the way you had these frenetic finishes here. You know, you you love to see just excitement games on the line where a guy gets the ball in ECE chance to win the game. And we can we can question coach K, which we don't do very often. But if you're if you're one of those who says, why didn't you design Williamson instead of RJ bear at the end of the game. You know, Duke was beatable we talked about that. They don't shoot free throws. Well, and they don't shoot the three. Well, but they somehow survive they somehow survived in sometimes. And I said this last week a great team will get. You know, they're going to have an issue the they're they're going to have a close game. But also with what happened it caught up to him. Eventually. And I didn't think they were great team. There were an exciting team because they had Zion. Williamson. They were entertaining. They weren't great. They Renner tain. I thought there are other teams that might have been more balanced than them. Now, I thought Gonzaga might have been more balanced team than them. But with Duke we wanted to see Duke advanced, you wanna sees I on Williamson because we may not see a player like this. And you know, as we get rid of the one in done, we won't see a player like this because that player will go to the NBA eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. And this program brought to you by legalzoom. They have a business legal plan. They can give you advice from bedded independent attorneys tax professionals available in all fifty states. Best part, you won't get charged by the hour. Since legalzoom is a law firm. Visit legalzoom dot com today. Get special. 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Grant Hill was a better college player than Cy on Williamson. I if we're just throwing out names, you know, but excitement, not great. He's he's he's there. Allen Iverson is up there. You can go back to Pistol Pete muravich when he play. I mean, it's a shorter list, but science up there, David Thomson is probably and he played at NC state and he won a national title in nineteen seventy four David Thomson against UCLA. That was one of those coming of age moments where I watched something that I hadn't seen before. I was watching a player who was six four. You know, challenging Bill Walton it seven feet and Walton was the best player in college basketball. So you've had these players, you know, college basketball has had a lot of great players. You know, it just in today's world. It's it's about highlights. It's about moments and Zion. That's how he's feature and that's why he's great for the highlight air because you'll just say, hey coming up on sportscenter Zion. Williamson in your show him throwing down a dunk. Yes. Mclovin. Google like the most at the greatest tournament runs ever and Steph Curry's on that list mellow Kemba Walker, Danny Manning, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson. I mean, those guys were all better than Zion. But I'm not sure they're easily more exciting. And I think you're right beside the clips, well, if you look at what does he always does it with panache with flair even when he blocks shot? I mean, he really blocks his shot when he dunks. He really dunks. But he's not better than some of these other players who have come before him. But when you have the excitement aspect of it with, you know, the the highlight world, then Zion is gonna stand out. Yes. Mclovin. Okay. Next question if you could build are actually if you can have one player in this tournament for one game right now who would it be? And I'll give you these choices produce Carson Edwards. Michigan state's caches. Winston Duke sign. Williamson Murray state's Yama rant. Maybe Virginia's Kyle guy. Who's the one guy? I think I I have my okay. I think Carson I the Purdue kid was unbelievable. Yes. He was. I this what I didn't understand. So I'm watching Carson Edwards carve up Virginia. And I go is anybody they go double team. Hey, coach. I know you've got great primitive defiant. Somebody wanna double team because nobody else is going to score. Sorry, Ryan Klein is now that that game was you know, the previous game. So I was curious about that. I kept waiting for. How about you double team? How about we take the ball on his no, Nope. Just gonna keep letting you know what we're going to wait until he gets tired. Eventually gets tired. Yes. Mclovin. It's unbelievable. He is so strong. But what happened the guys I do blame the rest of the Purdue team for not helping them more. Or I didn't think they were that good when I watched them during the season. But he was he had great lift on his jumper. That's the one thing that always stood out with Purdue. And that's why when I saw them as a three seat. I go Kyle. I'm must have missed something here. Because I thought he was wonderful. I just didn't think it was a great team. And then. You had a couple of moments where you know, the big guy plays. Well, climbed plays. Well Palmer Edwards place. Well, and then they advance and you need it all of that. But man was she fun to watch the apple produce up seventy sixty eight with six seconds left. The second free throw for the Virginia guy goes off to back Hort the balls bounce around. Like all they have to do is not let a baseball Pasco downfield for a two. I I would be sick to my stomach, and then they're gonna fell on purpose. They don't want to give Regina Teke chance to hit a three. And then you fouled Jerome heap. He tried to make the second one. I think he admitted that after the game he goes, I didn't try to miss that on purpose. And then you get the Ricky Shay, you get a pass another pants, and then the presence of mine to shoot it right away. Yeah. Pulling the guard from Virginia is in the back court with the ball with one point nine seconds left and produce got a two point lead. He baseball passes it down. I mean YoM, mclovin. I think the Purdue coach made a mistake. Going on purpose because I didn't think UVA had a shot up five tickets, and they hadn't been able to get a defensive rebound all night long Virginia Virginia had a better shot at every miss ball. But that backward Virginia was making their threes. Like they were in a rhythm there. They had Jerome were. Yeah, you're probably right. But they had more offense rebounds in Purdue defensive rebounds. That was the only reason that was a game because they produce could not that big is inconsistent at best harmar. I mean like he should block every shot. They just run right at him. But he's so slow new Paul. You had a question that you want answered the most fascinating thing in sports today is what is I in Williamson doing this morning like when he gets up this morning is he in his own bed is he back at a dorm room? Is he going to clash now? Right. Yes. Does he have a nine thirty that? He's gotta make this guy has three or four lottery. Tickets in his back pocket. And he's the first pick in the draft. He's done with school. He could fly to New York and signed with Nike or Dita's, whoever. I'm just fascinating. But what the next twenty four hours in his life is like this is he back at school hang with his his buddies for a few more days before he goes. Or is he meeting with an agent in New York City today? Well, they probably will have a meeting the basketball team will have a meeting, but which is not mandatory for him. Yeah. But he'll show up share out of respect for even that would be fascinating know that he's going to skip a day of being a millionaire to have a meeting in clean out his dorm. You know? Well, I just find it fascinating. It only gives life changes if he becomes a millionaire today as opposed to tomorrow, right? It is most people don't delay it for a second just fascinated with the next couple of days in his life. I think you kind of close out things with coach K basketball program him and RJ Barrett. Say goodbye to everybody else. But is there a Nike meeting that was supposed to be two weeks from now that's now tomorrow at nine AM and Portland or somewhere like that? I'm gonna guess they've already had that meeting that to me, that's even more gonna guess that they've already discussed that stuff. And we can't find his shoe. We have we have more on that in whereas Jones blown out shoe. Yes. Fritzy, wouldn't you want to get out of every right after the mandatory meetings or meetings? He feels like he's compelled to be with coach games team. Do you need to walk the campus in all day long? We still love you don't worry about it. We know you're gonna you're gonna get that like all day long for a couple days. Maybe. Patting you on the back after disappointing loss. They don't even get to the final four. You don't need to stick around for that. Well, he might wanna finish his freshman year. I don't know. I mean, it it may sound like a novel the process, I very rare. But I don't know maybe maybe he finishes, but that would be even more fascinating. If he's at class today getting a Chem Chem test. Yes, mclovin. That was really mean to put the gung it was that was very snarky front row right there. I believe in higher education, and you you didn't go to class you're supposed to be. No, I wasn't waiting to sign a Nike deal. Yes. This whole time. I've been like really he's got this test classy has to go to none of them. You have to go to you know, if you want as seating. And I proved you didn't have to go to it really feels a lot of pressure today. Go to class. But isn't that fasten his his life is now he's done with half? Does. He doesn't have to do anything this morning now. He's choosing. He's wagging the dog, and I wonder what he's doing. I would imagine. He just kinda cleaning up packing up Chilin lease doing it. Or somebody's doing? I'm sure he is. I don't know if mom came in and said, hey, sweetie. All I'll take care of this. Yes. Mclovin. If you're in class with Zion. Do you stare the whole class you try not to stare if you're a normal student? I think you'd be surprised if he shows up this morning, you know, the teachers like O Zion. I wasn't expecting you his chairs already on EBay glass. There's no chair here. From me, we sold it. All righty best and worst of the weekend. Eight seven seven three DP show. What you saw that you liked. You didn't like over the weekend. You can vote on the final fork. That's on the Dan Patrick show app. You can check out the celebrity bracket challenge, Jim Parsons, from the big bang theory is still leading this liberty bracket challenge brought to you by subway. You have until the end of Wednesday's show before we narrow it down to the final two playing for the Hebrew national championship in Minneapolis. And we will be there. We're gonna have a meet and greet. I believe on Thursday in Minneapolis. We'll give you details on that as well. And no fritzy is not doing stand up in Minneapolis. Yes. Yes. The expected reaction. Yes. We wanted to have him do it and call it the please go away tour, but for t- decided that he's not going to do it. We're going to wait. He's working on. I like how you're now taking a more professional approach that you want to write some new material. And this is the last stand up that you'll have drac. We've been begging you to write some new material, and you said, Nope, you had it, and we even had David Spade who volunteered to help you out Sandman woulda helped out. But so fritzy will not be doing stand up in Minneapolis. What do they what are they booing for? That was the last time. Todd did stand. Oh, oh, no. They loved you in Minneapolis. I went fairly well, and yes it did. It was a home field advantage for you during the Super Bowl. I think you should do like Chris rock does or Louis C K just go to like the comedy cellar in the village. And then just jump up on stage and try some new stuff a bunch of stuff. Yeah, man. But when when Siemens when they came over after Minneapolis, and they said I was on the up there from seventeen minutes. It didn't feel like that was one of those kind of did fill a little longer than that. Like nineteen stick a break. Here. Doug Gottlieb will join us on loan from Fox Sports. We got our play of the day. 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It's found to change the way you think of a hybrid y'all knew wrath for hybrid, Toyota, let's go places horsepower ratings achieve required premium unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of ninety one hundred premium fuel is not use the forms with a crease. Golden road game of the week. I'm gonna guess Sparty knocking off Duke to advance who I final four since two thousand fifteen the Duke freshman combined for fifty seven hundred sixty seven points. And I remember when we had Bruce Pearl the Auburn head coach on this was back at the beginning of the season. When Auburn went toe to toe with Duke, and that was I think in the Maui invitational, and Bruce Pearl said there beatable, they're not very deep, and here's dukes freshman combining for fifty seven hundred sixty seven points. Michigan state will play Texas Tech coming up on Saturday night. But you know, you start to think about this with who's in. And you don't think of teams like Texas Tech and Auburn getting this far, and you know, because they're football schools, but both those coaches coach beard, and Bruce Pearl I think coach beard will join us in Minneapolis. Is that right for will? Yeah. What would you re? Read all of the places because this is what happens in the coaching world where you might get a good job. Or there might be a great end result where you're playing for a championship or chance to play for championship. But you forget their road their path, and it happens in my business to a lot of people. I'm very lucky that I didn't have to go, you know, six or seven stops around the country, these coaches, they will coach anywhere. They just want a job and continue to coach. And then try to move onto the next job. You got the I do the places where coach beard has been before Texas starting in ninety one. He was an assistant at Texas for about four years, and he went to incarnate word as an assistant Abilene Christian as an assistant North, Texas as an assistant fort Scott seminal state, which is a junior college Texas Tech associate head coach from two thousand one to eleven South Carolina. Warriors, McMurray Angelo state Little Rock and since two thousand sixteen with the red raiders, South Carolina warriors. The South Carolina warriors two thousand eleven two thousand twelve it's a semi pro basketball team based in Myrtle Beach. All right golden road game of the weekend. Brought to you by the great folks at golden road. And we'll have a meet and greet on Thursday, Minneapolis the bus. Stop burgers in brew on Thursday from four to six co. So come out and join us have a pint of wolf pup session IPA the golden road brewing. 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There's so much stuff that we've collected over the years in the last nine years, and paulie goes, you know, what I found that might surprise you. And I said once he goes my driver's license. He goes I lost my driver's license in here. But I found it tore my office at home apart about a year and a half ago drive without a driver's license. You what else I found on my desk? One Jedang, cloudy, gloves and chinstrap funny. We knocked the sense out of Vincent Smith the. Yeah. Yeah. Remember that Michigan running back Virginia Tech up? Sorry. South Carolina sent this to us. And we did a look and stuff like that. And we put the props away and cow dusty they I know game used MC love and found my wedding gift that I gave to him in his lovely signed off. Autograph of publicity photo saying that you have the under on our marriage. No big deal. I did. Well, I just met mclovin then invited me to his wedding. And I thought well, I don't, you know, I'm getting to know you like it was kind of do for you want to invite your boss and also I wanted to famous person in my wet you didn't invite the other danettes invites. But that's where it was weird that I couldn't go if you were just sort of inviting me, so it might look good. Yeah. Then you called me the Saturday before to wish me, good luck. You're like big day for you. I'm like, yeah. Getting ready. Yeah. I signed a picture. I got the under on this marriage. Does surprise your wife gave a lovely gift. You have no idea about she. Did Doug Gottlieb, Fox Sports college basketball, analysts the Doug Gottlieb show on Fox Sports radio? Iheart app and Doug joins us now. Good morning, Doug. How are you? I'm great what a great weekend and hoops on. Yeah. I was curious. Let me start with the coaching decision with coach K in the final seconds. They're going to RJ Barrett instead of Zion. Williamson I know we had the benefit of hindsight here. But in the moment, what did you think coach K was going to do? Well, again, if if you ask any basketball, the guy who's been around the the high school in a circuit who has five years don't tell you that RJ bear was seen as one of the best closers at this age that we'd ever seen like that's what he does. He makes plays down the stretch. You know, you go back and look what he did with Team Canada. And what he's the leading up to this point. I also think I don't know necessarily if it was to go to like what they basically ran was they they tried to get the ball Zion and spread out. Let them go one on one. And if he couldn't get biased as vani past RJ, and then R J would try and do the same thing and they had spacing issues because they just don't have enough shooting. So I I don't know if it was specifically. Hey, we're going to RJ eyeso- everybody out of the way, all Michael, Jordan. When he first got in the NBA, but I would tell you that, you know, RJ Mr. free throw. You know, he got the free throw line a chance to make a free throw a basketball game. And he he missed one. But I mean that was RJ not coming through was actually a huge surprise for most people followed him like he is games. Not perfect. But he's a hell of a player and a great competitor. And one that scene is a great closer. Where would you put Zion? This one in done year as far as exciting college basketball players, exciting college basketball players exciting. I I can't think of anything more exciting than watching it. And I've I've, you know, look, I've my entire life. I've watched this tournament and my entire professional life after two and a half years of professional basketball as been covering the sport. I've never been more excited because he he it's a combination of things, right? It's the judge jogging athleticism at both ends like most kids when they're freshmen. It's they played like the courts tilted. They'll you're running forward their great they've backwards. Like, yeah. You know, it just do that too. To make to make ends meet. But you know, there was a play he made in the Sweet Sixteen where his knees kinda got buckled in transition trying to guard the ball, and he was beaten. And then he recovered in block the shot. I'm like, I did I've that's it's unbelievable. So in terms of excitement, and then you could kind of feel like you watched him improving as you watched him play more games. Like if you watch him and start of the year, he was good. But he was he's getting more comfortable shooting the basketball. He's getting more comfortable I in terms of of of how he handled the ball in the perimeter against different types of pressure defenses. He's obviously a very very active in athletic post player. And and there's some flaws juicy. They're put in terms of exciting fuse that word. Oh, dude. I mean, tell me something you've been more excited to see them Zion. Williamson play college basketball. I can't remember if you can have one player in this tournament for one game right now Zion Barrett. Carson edwards. Caches? Winston Jaama rant other just different college games. Yeah. Mean college games are different than pro game. I hope everybody understands that spacing is different. The town is different length three point shot. Caches winston. And it's not sure it's close. Wow. I mean this dude. Yeah. I mean, you you're going to Minneapolis. You guys got your guys are bringing your traeger traegergrills, and you're gonna do some ice fishing, and all that stuff that you guys did I don't know if you still do ice fishing that stuff was hilarious. You guys did last time around. But but you're you're walk up to him. And he's like, I don't really get it. You know, he's kind of he's not cut, you know, he's kind of stick. He's not crazy explosive. But I mean, like look the guys the big ten player of the year because at the end of the shot clock. He just finds a way to make it happen finds a way, you know. He you put a small guard on him. He'll drive you in and kinda bump you and big boy and shoot a floater over you. If you back up he'll shoot three and then when it gets in the lane, and then what they really wanted. They wanna get a big guy on them. And. Then on a switch if like he blows by people, but it just gets enough of a step. So yeah, I mean for at this level in this sport in this tournament. Give gimme caches Winston. I mean, look the Matt Mooney at Texas, Texas Tech would be in the conversation. In terms of like veteran guards just have a great ease and pace about them. Jerry Harper little point guard at at Auburn of what a stud, and then, of course, Bryce Brown is running mate. But I give me caches Winston just I've watched the whole year and he's been like this every seemingly every game. Well, and that's what I was telling people when Carson Edwards is putting on that shooting display. I said, you know, he wasn't the conference player the year. They're like how is he not conference player of the year? And I said it's cash Winston of Michigan state, and they're going who. And I said, well, you have to watch him because when you needed a big hoop? He gave you a big hoop? Now, you know, he's the biggest reason why Michele saves here. It's really uncanny, and you know, the Carson Edwards thing. And i'm. Sure, you're like, look if you wash them in the big ten you're nodding your head. Like, maybe I haven't seen it on this big stage. Is that you to walking bucket on the other hand? Like, there's the, you know, there are games in which it's really bad, and he can't get really selfish, and they kinda gotta work around it. And they've actually been better when he's shot less at times. I mean, but I think that's the thing. I wake up with today. Dan is that we do kind of forget, the Sweet Sixteen games were were. There was I mean Purdue Tennessee was an incredible game. But no one talks about them. They just get caught up in the wash. And some of it is because of timing, you know, sports radio on a Monday, and then the elite eight games day later, and some of it is because some of his because they're just, you know, these elite eight games were I don't know of any one game was better than all the rest. But I can't think of a weekend, which we had four games that were that close. I mean, like Tony Bennett goes from not making the final four where Purdue fouls up three five point. Whatever seconds to go to sending it into overtime. I mean in this series of things that have to go your way when you fat when you get fouled down three points. Like, they all went the way of Virginia. And then they still had to go win the game in overtime. So that was what a weekend. What do you think? Zion Williamson's doing today. I mean, I think he's probably waking up super sore super sad where she was still playing. What do you mean in terms that you think he's packing his stuff? Yeah. Do you think he's going to class? I don't know. I'd love to know. I don't know. I mean, I I remember I was covering Ryan's any town. I did Kentucky's last home game. When when they went undefeated in the regular season that you're was a couple years ago. Right. And I remember Karl Anthony towns he had a game on like a Tuesday or whatever. And then you know, I rolled in they'd be on Thursday. And they're like, yeah. He went to class on Wednesday. I mean, I all the girls are class. So if you wanna meet the girls go, but but you know, like, I I don't it's not like classes gonna kill you. You wanna impress? You wanna leave in good academic standing? But I also don't know dukes on spring break or whatever. I I don't know. I interested to find out. I'm sure social media with us. I'm sure some of those guys, you know, they're they think of themselves professionals. They got Packer stuff. And they're they're out the Kentucky guys. I'm sure there's several guys like that. But. But not not all of them built that way. And some of them actually think that the let me finish up strong. I only have till bay and I can still get my workouts in. I mean, the idea that you somehow like, there's some workout coach is gonna fix you. And change you make you better for like. No, it's not like go to class, go your workouts. You know, if you have a private workout guy work it out with the coach they'll come out of the facility. That's the way it works. You're gonna be in Minneapolis. We're gonna see. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, good. Yeah. We're doing we're doing drinks. I'm mclovin. Right. That's that's that's what you told me. You just send me attack. No, the glove wouldn't be on money. No, no, maybe drinks on Satan. But not mclovin back row. Definitely not. Definitely that grows really type really tight with the wall. Really, really? I thought, you know, making them pay for their new chairs the new band Cape. I thought that was easy easy fight. Tell you something you shouldn't be bringing it up until we unveiled a new me I've seen advertisements for the thing. You talking about like like this. These are the state health secrets I wasn't aware. They are. They are every day or state held secrets for the big unveil who do you have winning at all? Well, my son has Michigan state winning at all. And he's ten and so he's he he was convinced 'cause I've made him watch much catches Winston play all year. And he's like well. That's you told me to watch him. I was like, yeah. But I like I like Clark to like these other guys. So I guess we're going Michigan state. And this is a really amazing what Bruce Pearl's done without Chuma. You know, Texas Tech losing four starters. I mean, I'm telling you like, you you can you can appreciate this. You understand how great coach Bob Knight is or was whatever and because of how because he went to ESPN two lateness career because he became kind of grumpy old man kind of a caricature of himself. I do think crispier is living in bodyman of his coaching principles. And I I I think it'd be it good weekend. Remember that? I mean, you remember how big a figure he was in college basketball. I mean what Mike you have? He is a coach is a Bob Knight disciple and everybody kind of forgets all that. Because well, you know, how he got why he got fired you and how he ended his career, but crispier is good coach ever seen drama up. And of course, he's going against Izzo who's right there in that conversation. Thank you Doug seeing a couple of days. Brother. Doug, godly funk sports. The Doug Gottlieb show. Also vailable in Fox Sports radio in the iheart. Apple take a break. Got to play of the day coming up the Auburn head coach Bruce Pearl will join us top of the hour, man. There are times fritzy will give me play by play of Bruce Pearl and his blood pressure. I just love that guy. I love how animated and passionate. He is screaming start to finish to meeting. He doesn't pass out by halftime. I know. And I think paulie sent out a text like Bruce Pearl didn't have any more sweat in in that game. There's a point where he was sweating like in different parts of his shirt. And I think he changed shirts at halftime. I've tried to keep notes on this one. And then he he was sweating so much. He put his jacket back on because I think he this wedding take a break play the day coming up next. Everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife drop off the dry cleaning pick-up, some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. The. The good thing. You don't have to drop off or pick up. Anything? 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Oh, take on me Phillies radio network, Bryce Harper. Second home run is Phillies sweep the Braves are per three for nine. Couple of home runs Phillies beginning to game series in DC tomorrow. I think max sherzer is gonna go against Bryce Harper in the nationals. So that'll be tasty play of the day. Brought to you by Callaway they made a low compression, low spin tour ball others tried to do the same. But they can't can't replicate a chrome soft. The only ball with graphene infused Olsen fans core for serious speed and unbelievable greenside control order. Chrome? Soft today at Callaway golf dot com. Did watch a little bit of baseball over the weekend. The dodgers have scored forty two runs in the first four games. So ten and a half runs per game. You have to go back to nineteen fifty four at this point of the season. When a team had this many runs. It was the cubs in nineteen fifty four. They had forty five runs. Through the first four games of the season. 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Tomorrow on the show. We have Henry Winkler is coming in now for those of you, you millennials here. You don't realize what Henry Winkler he was Fonzie in in the show happy days. So in the mid seventies. There was no bigger TV personality. I don't think in America, then Arthur funds Ereli, and it was the number one show in America, the only had three channels back then but happy days with Ritchie Cunningham. It was unbelievable. The I I don't know how big of a star. He realized he was or what was life like. But he's in the new season of Barry on HBO. With Bill Hader, blazes serial killer. I can't recommend this strongly enough by by the way it because Henry Winkler comes close to stealing this. The supporting cast is wonderful Bill hater does play the role of serial killer. And but he is a serial killer wants to get out of being a serial killer. He wants to be an actor Henry Winkler runs this acting class. And from what I'm told by those who have done this before and been in one of these acting classes, Henry Winkler nails it as the teacher because he's he's in his own little world. And he thinks he's the most important person teaching you about acting and he comes close to stealing it. So it'll be great to see him. First time. I I'd never met. I don't think Henry Winkler, and he was in a Sandler movie was in water. Boy, I I might have met him at the premier, but I remember being at a bar. Bar called the teddy is the Roosevelt hotel. And at the time. I'm there with Sandler's good writing buddy, Jack, you're poodle, and he said I'm going to introduce you somebody who's going to be a huge star and up comes Jona hill, and I go this guy's going to be a star. And and Jacko's he's in four movies. Trust me, he'll be a star. And he came up. Joan I was introduced to him and he's with Henry winklers, son. And all they wanted to do was talked football college football USC football. 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"It's time to get up with Purdue and Tennessee and overtime thriller. Sweet Sixteen did one call the side the game. And did they get it? Right. We'll answer that right off the top. And then Duke back on the floor tonight after a close call on Sunday. Can they find a way past familiar and into the elite eight we've got to look ahead. And then Jalen, it's the Greek tweak. It's an ankle for the best player in the game. How bad is it? And how does it impact the race in the east? You've got questions. We've got answered I'm get up starting right now before we go any further we must extend our deepest sympathies to our friend, Mr. rose. So sorry. Michigan dollar ugly. My goodness. I'm feeling sad. And blue I see it. I feel your pain. You went from sake shots last night. The only shots anymore. Waiting all morning for that line. All morning, John. You will get that bracket. Let's begin with last night. Like these these in do in Tennessee in the Sweet Sixteen picking up in the second six minutes ago, we retired at sixty seven but not more Admiral Scofield willing along three Tennessee had been weight behind. They came all the way back onto three minutes to go back and forth. We go down one not be more. That's Ryan Klein with three next sentece possession Scofield again, a three again, that's it down. Again. He was twenty one Tennessee two point lead. Forty seconds do down three how good was Ryan Klein seven ten from three point ranks twenty seven points. Twelve seconds ago day Turner, no Williams. Yes. He would Twenty-one Genesee to what are they draw for Purdue under three seconds ago? Carson edwards. Nobody's fouled. Take. Another again keeps inbounds elevates. You. Tell me. Good bad kobylt. Talk about it a moment one way or another. He got three shots. He missed the first he made the second and third were tied. We're going to overtime and the OT with belong to the boilers Edwards driving to the home to his twenty nine per do survives in advances on the leading. They win in overtime. I I'm getting back to lead since two thousand I heard. I'm happy for myself. And I've ever my guys have coach paint. And you know, it's something that we definitely works really hard. And a lot of people counted us out at the beginning of the year. I just keep reaching that. And you know, we're we're just going on plain for there's lots be proud of even right now, it's hard to feel any of that. Because you're always known when this happens to you. And but again, Purdue credit biggest thing. Disease. You know, we we left this program winning four seniors. We let this program winning. That's the base we really came from the bottom and to make Sweet Sixteen dream, come true. Khaimah Balu short. Top to see it end like that. We'll talk about them. Carson edwards. Meanwhile continues dancing he escort ninety seven points. So far in the turn of third most through three games in the last twenty five years, you see the names Steph curry Jim for debt. We'll talk about the game in a moment. How about one Virginia take it on twelve seed Oregon's second half where we think it up game tied at forty five tied to Roan ruling three with three minutes and thirty eight seconds left thirteen points. No point having sports in Strom three and how did Andre hundred kids that wide open. He actually child guy. We're open the double team finding hunter for the bucket. Virginia wins at fifty three to forty nine. Tony Bennett is moving on. She was an amazing year. And then we got to the NCAA tournament, and that was so hard, and I knew this was going to be an important year for all of us in our lives. Whatever it brought I knew we needed to kind of band together and needed each other and to go through it and to respond up to this point the way they have in the regular season and then to get into the NCAA tournament and being that spot where we were down fourteen and fight, and then continue to advance that that stuff will stay with these guys. So again, very thankful, and you know, you just want an opportunity and here we are. Okay. So I don't know what your bracket looks like mine's a little bit busted. But anyway, Virginia and for to Purdue will meet in the elite eight on Saturday something only thirteen percent of people predicted ESPN's tournament challenge. Virginia last reach the final four nineteen Eighty-four and Purdue lasted so in nineteen eighty let's talk about the foul. Greenie back to the Tennessee game. It was a big one. And you kind of wonder a lot of people talked about jase. Should it have been called to? They get the call right in your opinion. No. I don't think they did. But it's not an egregious miss. I mean, the Carson kicked his leg out. And that's where the contact came from. So you could argue hey, you shouldn't be in the position of ever making contact with shooter. I don't think if it weren't put it this way. If it weren't called no official would have said that official made a mistake. No other official would have questioned a no call in that situation in my judgment. Now, the fact that it was called him. I, you know, up in arms about it. No. But it's pretty clear in referees. Should know that shooters. Kick their legs out in order to get that kind of contact and that is offense initiated contact. I'm on the side of protecting shooters. But when they kick a leg out, and that was not heavy duty contact. I mean, he wasn't even knocked off balance. He came back down in the same spot. He left from I wanna make it clear for anyone. It didn't see the game played decides the game. You cannot overstate the significance of the call shot doesn't go in Purdue is going to lose and Tennessee is going to go on to the elite eight if the call isn't made and the result is reversed. So it is as big a call as you can possibly make Jay did you think it was the right call? I thought it was right? Call the time. I just appreciate the gamesmanship. Right. And a lot of shooters do kick their legs out a lot of shooters. Don't have the whereabout at that particular moment to kick their leg out Carson at did that play was dead. He found a way to get open. The catch the ball. Now. The Monday Turner kind of lunged out. I think if Lamont attorney what more straight up said of lunging, I don't know if the rep mix that call, but I give way more credit. The Carson at words for putting up in the position. To make the call also reminded me of the shy Elliot play when he was on his tiptoes, and he almost was out of bounds. That's first foremost idea. However think it was a file I agree with the leg kick what they bumped hips. And once that happened, I think that's when you gotta make the call one way or another the call was made Purdue finds a way to win the game. And for those of us who watch a lot of big ten basketball. I mean, this is a remarkable story. What Purdue has done the conference didn't get enough? Attention this year. They didn't get any attention. This is a team that outside of Carson Edwards all of their players from last year graduated this was not supposed to be their season. And here they are one win away from the final four. I think the attention problem came mostly from their non conference schedule that early on the one up losing a game start of the season. Cincinnati got blown out and did not play well early on in the non conference. So they were under the radar for a good part of the season. But in the last month from February on they've been excellent defensively they've held their opponents of thirty eight percent from the field. That's second in the country in that time period only to Houston both. In the Sweet Sixteen now Purdue in the right, and let's talk about two weeks ago. Jay Williams yet. I sent you a text sound just how good is Carson Edwards at the next level. Because you watch this kid play. He has had a really int- college season. He's like a five eleven Derrick rose type player. Yeah. That's the kind of pacey plays with stylistically. And Jay's point about not people know who, you know, Purdue is I don't think a lot of people who are a lot of teams are on college basketball. Because Purdue is at one of those sexy objects. They're not as shiny object that everybody based into Ryan Klein last night. It was hotter than Cayenne pepper. Okay. I mean, literally they combined for fifty six of the team's points, just those two players alone. Then playing Virginia like Virginia's great defensively. I don't think Virginia's gonna be able to stop. Carson at words Virginia's gonna need to score to win that game. Clyde twenty two points in the second half. He never had twenty two points in a game before that just got insanely hotline as you mentioned seven threes. Here's how we're going to break this up here this morning, we're gonna look backwards and we're gonna look forwards at these games. So. We'll get to the west bracket games coming up a little later. But let's spin it forward now and look ahead to some of tonight's action in the eastern bracket. And that of course will be the team, maybe no one paid attention to produce. Because no one paid attention to anybody except for Duke Zayn Williamson, and certainly a lot of people hoping that the ride doesn't come to an end tonight against the team in Virginia Tech. They did beat them during the regular year albeit without Zion. So if we're gonna see Virginia Tech pull that off again tonight, I think it would be a pretty significant surprise Jay Bilas. How do they do it? How does it happen? They're gonna have to spread them out. And that's what Virginia Tech does very, well, they're very good three point shooting team. They've got Justin Robinson back there. Left-handed point guard. I think's the best point guard. They've had probably says Bimbo Coles. He's a terrific player. Still not completely healthy not one hundred percent. But back, and then they've got a big Jim Carrey black share that can pull opposing bigs away from the basket they can play through them. He's an excellent passer. They're more than capable of winning this game. They won earlier you mentioned Duke NEB Zion. They didn't have Justin Robinson. But they got. Keep Duke out of transition. Make it a half court game for dukes offense. If do gets up and down the floor turning them over and defensive rebounding and shooting out ripping and running then Duke wins. I think it could be a game. But I also think Duca win this game by fifteen to twenty points. And I think that Kerry black share because it is down which they play Kerry blacks. Here's the one guy that can't get him bowel trouble. They don't have the size at UCF have. Now that teams do have this is I think Michigan state has more of that size and L at sides. But of carry black shirt hits foul trouble. The you're not gonna have anybody. That's gonna stop Duke from tacking getting points in the pain leads the nation in points in the paint. And that's where his I Williamson company are Eric. That's where they have their field day. If carry black shirt gets in trouble, if they aren't making threes the game could be a rap Jalen has screen green coming up later on about dukes. We'll get to that a little bit later. Let's stay in the east region though in talk about Michigan state and LSU. You got two great point guards from water waters. Caches Winston who do you think's has the edge in that game? When you look at it. I'll give the edge to Michigan state. The only problem we have is Michigan state. Turn the ball over at times. And if they turn the ball over against LSU LSU super athletic, and they've got not only trauma waters, but Schuyler maize is is a fantastic player. He's one of the toughest players out. There makes bigshots huge shots against Maryland. I think the key is gonna be the glass if Michigan stake, it's offense of rebounds. Because LSU's not a great defensive rebounding team bind up the difference. But I wanna know after Michigan goes out last night. Jalen rose route four or again, never. Tonight with the banner conference to the. You guys Rupa Carolina. When goes out, I don't root. I'm a professional. Tom Izzo, but I'll never root for the Spartans to leave it here for the moment. We will have much more on the turn amount as we go. But it is a jam packed today. And I want to get you to the NBA game of at night last night. Jalen rose, clippers in his fascinating. And it is all as usual about because the clippers have been great. But no one has been better on your long than that. You can't stop them and change they should just watching finish around the rim. He's terrific around the basket. Greenie more points in the pay off dunks. By anyone since Shaquille O'Neal has done it in early two thousand that one the butts of seventeen now here we go getting the year. Also the versatility. This is a seven foot guy using Bolton hands cross it over two guards and lift the finish with four guys. Couldn't stop them there on stoppable. Here's the moment that gives you pause boxer fifteen watch running back up the floor. We're going to zoom in on this for you. Here. You will see Jaanus stepping foot of Garrett temple and down goes the Greek freak with the Greek tweak. He was scored thirty four nine boards five six bucks win. But none of that feels like the story. Now, the story is Janas limping off the decide he would stay on the bench for the rest of the game. Let's hear from them afterwards on the significance of the ankle. We'll just we'll of see how he feels tonight's feels tomorrow and. I think there's we talked about it before the game balancing our health his health with him playing well and feeling good going into the playoffs. So you know, it's hard to have both. But we certainly going to have that. The bugs have been the best team in the sport all year long. Despite the fact that they have been bitten significantly by the injury bug, Malcolm Brogdon out six to eight with a foot in the midst of a great season Merite chat with on Dante. Even Chen's was out for the season with a foot. This team has continued to play through all of this. But this is a loss. They could not overcome clearly be honest significantly hurt. Jalen, that's a wrap. No, no one that. But how do you think if it's you how are you handling him the rest of the way through the regular season? He definitely doesn't play the next game. Like one thing you gotta do what a great players protect them from themselves. And when he came out and say, I don't like to miss games as an organization. That's a rare flag to me that are I'm going to have to be more cautious on this situation. And the thing that continues to fascinate me about today's athlete they've gotten bigger they've gotten stronger, they're clearly more athletic with the shoes have gotten lower and lower. And so him wearing those Corta cut shoes as a seven. Player too. So very agile allows him the Billy to move and be quicker. But at the same time, it lends you to situations like this could you just expand on that for a minute because that's something I hadn't really thought about and I'm sure a lot in the audience. Also are not aware you're saying that the reason that they're going to the lower shoes as it gives him more flexibility. But it also leaves him more at risk to that kind of injury. Absolutely. Your ankle bone is exposed and every time that you get a chance to step on someone's foot verse think about somebody hurts the ankle would do they do they tie their shoes tighter? But if your shoe was lower that had no affect it will some stylistically happened with the game too. And I would say I think the most important thing for a walkie is not to thinking microcosm to think bigger picture this Clinton number one seat, you Clinton, everyone see and get healthy everybody in that training room from outcome broadening everybody back there, and I also think for the bigger picture for them to is. We saw him tweak his ankle that wasn't a turn UNLV. You saw that. I don't know if you saw that it was like barely. It was barely Tilton. Yeah. So that gives me I mean, that's that's something different for him. I think that's something to pay attention to going in the playoffs because that wasn't a big tweak at all. And they're just a couple of games from clinching number one team. So right, and you play them for the next couple of games you're saying and try to let him sit out four game. Get russia. You bring him backward game against the lower Ponant. You try to clinch the number one seed, that's the most important thing. But I'm just going back to ankle sprain. Again that this frame. This is not this Jay rose. We'd had so many springs into game. That's not a bad sprain for him to walk off the court that way something bigger with it first happened. I thought it was a foot injury. Didn't think it was an ankle injury. That's what I that's what made me relate. What I was saying about the shoes. So it's gonna be interesting to see what happens when he gets into Mara. What a shame for this team again in the city that is weighted what feels like forever. You're a chance I adopted them. Just because no one pays any attention to them and hear the other dropping huge record. Okay. We'll have more basketball as we go. But now something we have been. Looking forward to it. Feels like for the entirety of our lives. Tim kurkin ESPN. Oh, no. Links cout. He's got big. Here's and helps him stay back on those laws innings minus plate appearances from left-handed hitters with pants up. I'm four foot nothing. But I got the giant hands helps me on the basketball court by career is over. I could never go on television. Do I really sound like that? Delight walk. Nice to see I can't believe you're still playing that. After all these years more to it. Don't you hear and see view? It was the first guy that impersonated me. And I said tell me that you can impersonate others like Jack Nicholson, he goes, no, I really do. Bad and honor. Okay. Let's get to some storylines now that opening day is in the books. We're not just here to make fun of you wanna get your information ki L story line Harvard in quake it off to the debut. We was hoping for he went over three with two strikeouts. He was booed actually after the second strike out. That the Phillies did beat the Braves ten to four and Manny Machado. Also went hitless in his debut. Don't want over three with two strikeouts. The Padres one to nothing more on that game though. And what's real story was in a moment. Robinson Pinault got off to the start Mets fan. We're hoping for in his I bet homering to left center field off masters who actually had a nice day other than this giving. Jacob degrom all the run support. He needed the Mets beat the nationals. Tutu nothing and balls were flying out of the ballpark Dodger Stadium daughters. Hit eight home runs. The power was on display. Four off of former ushers add Greeky, Jack Petersen KiKi Hernandez each hit two of their own in the dodgers beat the Diamondbacks. Well. Two five and how about hobby bias to home runs for him on Thursday fresh off his career high of thirty four and twenty eighteen that's a search. You wanna see from him for five four RBI? The cubs beat the Rangers twelve to four. So let's start with Bryce Harper because everybody has the spotlight on him. What was he going to do in his debut? What are your thoughts seeing him debut in Philly? Well, he didn't get any hits. But people in Philly are so fired up, and they should be they needed to add a big bat in the middle of the order. He is still a great hitter. He is precisely what they needed. However, they upgraded tremendously before he showed up jeans skirt JT real Nuccio Andrew mccutchen the things they did in the bullpen. They were demonstrably better before they got Harper. I believe they're the most improved team in the National League. And I think with Harper there. They are a pennant contender when they simply weren't at the end of last year. And I think that's the most interesting division as we go into the season to study. Jacob degrom juice gets the contract extension, right? Before the season begins, and then he picks up right where he left off. Where do you see the Mets in there with the Braves and the Phillies and the national? Well, I see four contenders in the National League east. In fact, the hardest question answer is who's the fourth place team in the analysts because they could all finish first and all four those teams could finish fourth the Mets are right there. What they they're starting pitching. Is so good as we know. But they made so many upgrades to their offense which had to be done that I think they're right in the middle of it. But this is the reason why they're starting pitching. Jacob degrom had a historic season last year. He's arguably the best pitcher in the game at the moment. He was brilliant again yesterday, and he's had his Tommy John surgery. There's no reason that think he's not going to be great for the next five years, which is why they locked him up. And that starting pitching puts them right in the middle of this super-quick Laura brought it up over the Manny Machado. He didn't get any hits yesterday. But that might not have been the most interesting thing for San Diego, the guy lined up next to him is actually the big story there for NATO. Junior made the team. He's twenty years old six four he can fly. He's about the best prospect that we have in minor league baseball. And now in the big leagues he got a couple of hits yesterday. I saw him in spring training. And I love that the Padre said, we're not gonna worry about service time. And if relation we're going with our best players, and this is the best shortstop on our team making it clear, if they didn't if they waited twelve days to bring him up, then they would get another year control over him. But they're going for it. Right. And maybe it wasn't smart to do that. But they're telling their their fans we're trying to win now. Eight years old and eighty five days, it's a signal to the players in that clubhouse. I think and to the fans, and it's a great message to send in my mind. Major league baseball is back with us. All morning long. We've got a lot to do four weeks right now. You will know we're kinda Murray is playing in the NFL. But why wait our expert is it how's he knows what's going to happen? He will take you through all the biggest story lines as we approach the draft. And he is the of college bass. But Diane is the only star going tonight. We dive into basketball royalty tournament talk. As we roll out. It's on ESPN. Get up is brought to you by Gatorade. Thirst quenchers. The proven sports fuel. Time for a little eye candy, Jalen rose, I want you to see this watch panel Murray and just everyone just observe the insane athleticism involved in this way here. He's calling for it. He's driving and watch. Oh, man. But once I don't know if that's at lettuces them does kind of look you think that's a lot. But skills scale court to can skill. That's why lock in Greenies generation in mind. That's what athlete used to me means running joke. Skill. If I were facing in that direction and try to. Someone else here this morning. Up in the next half hour on get up. We're looking ahead to some blue bloods on the floor tonight. Are Turney talk continues. Dan allows is going to tell you exactly what the big story lines will be as we get towards the NFL draft. And the coach of one of the winning teams last night. Will join us live all that more. As we roll you're watching get up on ESPN. 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Stream dot com slash get up. For more information. We are back on get back to last night's action in the NCAA tournament Florida state aimed Gonzaga zags but one scene turning defense into offense. Josh perkins. An eleven point lead. At halftime. Secondhand still holding that lead really tomorrow. No, Brandon Clark. Yes. Zags lead eleven again later, it's eight as they were holding lead most of the night, and it's more. Again, this time he will finish with the dunk elitist ten and this over three minutes to go. Once they got this as close as four, but would get no closes normal junior knocking down for three and Gonzaga survives and advances to the elite eight seventy to fifty eight mar let's talk. Minute man. It's a culture a winning and hell. Yeah. Older guys the younger guys. This is what you do against ACA you win. And there's also times and the game. Whether it's. In the first half when we're making a run or when somebody's making a run at us like Baylor did like, Florida state did the older guys. Sometimes they say something. And sometimes it's actions. Coach v will actually join us live in our next hour here and his team was relentless on the offensive glass scoring Florida state seventeen to four on second chance opportunities. Chuck thirty four percent on initial possession shots six of seven on second chance opportunities right now. Jalen, avert, your eyes. Jaylen I'm so sorry. But I have to do this. He'll take it onto Michigan. Then. You see that? You can six in the first half the worst boring have in school history the NCAA tournament Matthys trying to make something happen there. But it's stripped vide Moretti knocking down the three pointer on the other end Texas up sixteen points now just over five minutes left up by twenty one and that lay involved with contact and one Kover at twenty two point seven one win with his John. Really that good shouldn't define who. We were Saudi Washington was great to bring that up. I was really up. Bad day to have a bad day. I guess a really good Texas Tech team. We have a team yours. Best defense in America. Playing a best offense in America in Gonzaga. We'll see a lot of points on Saturday. It's gonna be a low scoring game. Yeah. I'm already kind of shake into thing about good. But I didn't know they were the best team offensively. But I got great respect for coach and their program as do everybody in our locker room. So, yeah, we'll have to guard at a high level because that's who we are always thought when you get to this tournament. Gotta be who you are. That's obviously who we are. And we're going to figure out a way scoring points to. So Texas tracking zag had beaten the lead on Saturdays. Something only seventeen percent of people predicted ESPN's tournament challenge. Texas Tech never has reached the final four Gonzaga looking for its second appearance in program history and this time yesterday, Jalen rose was much happier. He was talking about wanting love it wolverines. This is how he's dead. He'd be watching the game. The nine thirty nine correct. So around like nine twenty popcorn on stoke. Gotcha. Okay. Melting the butter doing all that sought little pepper seasons. Saw all of that. Hot Saki, putting it in a microwave covering it up a little bit going back and forth with it. And that's going to set the table. Okay. Now, depending on how the game goes more sake and door to drink may chain. What is a little softer a little hard now. How come? So you got a long night last night. So this is what happened according Twitter daily. Sake. Two straight shots. Take us inside the household last night watching that on fold. I I wanna give Texas Tech credit. But I ain't you know, are they that good? That's what I was thinking when I was watching the game because we only have sixteen points at halftime. So I'm eating my wings. I brought the leftovers I show them to you as my appetite. Okay. And then the sake was I was in joying it then they start making Bank shots from the corner. And all of a sudden not discovered this bottle to kill it. Palatable to me and. I just started drawing. My sorrows. And that's about as good. Let me turn your question. How much of that was great defense, Texas the great defensive team. Good. Good. Is that what happened? Michigan was awful. They shot one of nineteen from three they missed open shots. They turn the ball over like crazy, and it just it just fed on its own. And look Michigan was not a great offensive team all year long. They'd had some problems on the offense event, but their defense bailed him out, but in this game, everything went wrong. I think you heard John say, you know, we shouldn't be judged by this as to who we were all season. This wasn't who they were all season. But they were they were awful now, Texas Tex the best defensive team in the country. So you have to certainly give them credit. I wouldn't I wouldn't have expected for Michigan discourse seventy five points in this game. But getting held under fifty come on. Nobody's that good. But we've been talking about this all year, we always talk about our squad. And we've always been saying that it seems like Michigan misses that alpha. Iggy brass Dak Bryce tickets could be that a little bit. But you felt like Jordan pool could do more. Charles Matthews was had some injuries about the course of the year. You felt like he was going to explode. Nobody really took on the mantle of being that guy for that team. It was a couple of plays last. I don't know if we're gonna be able to show them that like really highlighted like who Texas Tech was versus how we were performing and we weren't making shots. But at the same time, they were all Hudson. This ball is hopping right now. Okay. And that was after off it's the revile uncontested layup basket in the fall we were behind the got. Now, you give up a good shot to get a great shot. And you go for steal you a second late, and they not got an open three. So I wanna give them credit. But I agree. That's the worst that I've seen John beeline coast team play in the NCAA tournament. And that's why we're going home. So disappointing in for Michigan team that went all the way to the finals that year ago talk quickly about Gonzaga. Now, they've been a little under the radar all year as they tend to be. But they were they were number one. Remember three for a period of time. They've got really good players. How does this team compared to the team that went to the championship game? If figures ago, do you think they're making another run like that? I do they're not quite as big. They were bigger back that Zach Collins. Karnowski? So they they were they had more size and fall this team is a little more athletic up front little quicker and with Brandon Clark there. I mean, look what they did to Florida state and Florida state's long athletic really deep out rebounded by nine. They dominated the paint area. And I thought their activity level defensively. They were fantastic thing won the game on defense. And usually aga- you think of them winning their game on when the games on offense. They won that game on defense. I was a really impressive performance a lot of people know Ryuhachi mar share, but Brandon Clark is making himself into a motto repaying. He's great. And I want to transition to tonight's games. Again. We're gonna both do review and preview because a lot of blue bloods on the floor tonight as we look ahead to the mid west region tonight, you get Carolina Auburn, which should be a hundred eighty degrees away for Michigan. Yes. In Texas Tech. Right. This game should be in the eighties. Maybe even the nineties and then Houston Kentucky. So we get all the blue bloods in action tonight. What is the key? For Auburn, Ken. They knock off the one seed in Carolina. It's one ten in a row over that stretch. They're making twelve threes game. So they're not going to have to increase. The tempo like they do with most teams try to get them playing faster. Carolina loves playing there. So not only do they have to shoot it. Well, which I think is a key. But they have got to rebound. Carolina's an excellent office of rebounding team. Auburn is not a great defensive rebounding team. So they allow second shots to North Carolina North Carolina's gonna beat them rose. Maybe the Scots dot enjoy this, rob. This one's a ride offensively. And I think we're North Carolina. Look, they try to beat you rebound basketball and points in transition, but they're going against Gars Jared Harper. I call him mighty mouse. He's about five score against anybody nation and then Bryce Brown. They can stop those two guys defensively that ain't North Carolina. Being a great position interesting thing during this ten games threats that they've had win. Harper struggle. Mccormick has come in and been quite good at the point guard for them to how Kentucky quickly they take on Houston. PJ Washington is he gonna play the not gonna play. What are you going to happen there? I know you're not a doctor if he plays in plays healthy at a high level they win if he doesn't they'll probably lose. I think the differences Kentucky's interior strength when they can throw the ball into redrafts BJ Washington together than I think Kentucky's better. But without PJ Washington. I think it's a it's a hard road. Yeah. Dr even say a Holiday Inn express some time Jay Washington a little bit late for that line. But I think if he can still play I think it's still have an advantage down though. I think that's where Kentucky has had their bread and butter the whole. A year. I think it comes down to their gar- play defensively. Young guards to get challenged last game. But they really met the challenge. I think they're those guards continue to improve reminder J will pick them to win it all jockey. Yeah. And so we'll see we could get those two blue bloods, matched up in the elite eight for the second time and just a short period number that great game. Carolina Kentucky played just a few years ago. Know, the reminder the women's championship continues tonight at seven you can see that on ESPN and to the NFL. We will go next the draft is on the way, we know Colin Murray, we'll go. Hi, four weeks from Now, Dan Orlovsky has a very bold prediction about another quarterback. It surprising. And it's coming next. Number one. I'm telling you. Happy Friday on get up. And let's run the floor with Jalen rose hardened dropped thirty eight points on the nuggets and Houston's one hundred twelve eighty five win have the rockets past Denver is the biggest threat to the warriors in the west. I've always felt the Denver Nuggets. Have a terrific have had. It's ridic- regular season. We have seen this group guys actually have playoff success. I always feel like the Houston Rockets. Hat would it to be the second team in the Western Conference to push the Golden State Warriors as we continue to run the floor big night for Joel Embiid with thirty nine points, thirteen rebounds in the seventy Sixers one twenty three to one ten win over the nets Philly now three games up for the third seed with seven to play how important should securing that three seed beef for the Sixers should be very important law. And also keeping Joel them be healthy plan with the hairband last night had a little comfort going knocking down his jump shot. Really facilitating in the half court. They are my choice to win the Eastern Conference this year. Tell Dwayne Wade and the heat victory. Aureus overdue convinced -i and the Mavs in the final meeting between the two future hall of famers, pretty special. Wade takes the all time head to head record eighteen seventeen. What's the lasting legacies for these stars? Not only champions at hall of famers, great ambassadors with a game. But I need to tell everybody secret. Dwayne Wade is doing a farewell tour and y'all giving Dirk affair Royal tour. All of these videos are saying about a dirt. He wanna kick it with Luca. He wanna play with Kristaps Porzingis. He want to play late in the season to get DMP's stand on a Dallas cowboy side aligned with the form off these things. I see Dirks cuter before it gets a statue in doubts there yet the Spurs retiring. Nobody's jersey last night. We Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. Among those on hand for the ceremony. Here's coach pop under nobly impact on the team. I had the word to stop going to do. Geez. Always. What do we need that? Why? This is what I do. I sit at home. I watched the draft. And we picked people that I've never heard of. Sitting there. Emmanuel Jin ability. We just. He's gonna be great. He's this. Okay. Whatever. Okay. Whatever. I love it. Okay. You played against my new and a lotta times he gets overshadowed by spurts legends like David Robinson, Tim Duncan. But how great was he gonna to say what everybody's thinking? I want to hang out retired him. Don't he looks like? I want to have been with you last night. And that would have been a whole. Clutch. Okay. He was disciplined he took chances. Like they talked about when you talk about the Spurs. They normally don't take risks. Everything is calculated. Okay. And also he was got a sacrifice Hooda team. Remember a lotta times he didn't start, but he always finished and in modern day. He's one of the first player. Those one of the best guys on his team that really wasn't considered a starter. And I think now players are more. Welcome to be reserved to start the game knowing that they're going to finish great sept- tail and let's get to the NFL with greeny. Absolutely. Because the NFL draft is now less than a month away. Dan Orlovsky is here with us. And he's got a variety of bold predictions. I have screened these I agree with every single one of them or laugh gate. What is I well? Your New York Jets get their ideal draft situation and someone comes up and trades at number three not for Dwayne Haskins. But for Houston defensive tackle at Oliver eight nine. This guy was in the conversation for the number one pick and for some people's eyes. He's fallen out of the top ten top fifteen not after yesterday yesterday's pro day four seven in his forty yard. Dash hit a four point two short shuttle that's faster than saquon Barkley. So there's a lot of teams they're going to look up to move up the Tampa Bay bucks. The New York Giants potentially move off to number three your jets trade out. And then you get a bunch of pick someone's going to drive that all the jets absolutely are open for business on that pick. So I agree with it. Whether it's the quarterback or not what's next the Washington Redskins are gonna draft Daniel Jones future quarterback. Don't forget last year. They got out Smith, and he's not going to be available in the future. But they liked Alex Smith because he's very intelligent. Daniel Jones is very intelligent doubt. Smith because he's great accuracy wise in the short intermediate passing game. Daniel Jones is great into the short intermediate passing game with his accuracy out. Smith is a good athlete. Daniel Jones is a very good athlete. So the Washington Redskins are going to draft. Daniel Jones do too. Their quarterback of the future. Little known fact angle Jones played on Jay Bilas basketball team once upon a time. But that's neither here nor there for this coaching. What's next? Indianapolis Colts become arguably the best team in AFC when they draft AG Brown. Ole miss a lot of love to Jay Metcalfe is teammate. But AJ Brown is the stronger receiver is the better resell. Andrew luck last year, his comeback with TY Hilton that that connection again, if you add AJ Brown who is in my opinion, juju Smith Schuster type player to this offense with Devon funchess. Now, he's a strong body receiver that offense becomes almost unstoppable. The colts could be the team to beat in the AFC going into next year. And finally, another quarterback lock it up. Drew lock is going to be a top ten draft pick. Listen when you watch drew lock state. There's so many things about his game that are intriguing, but it's just that because the offense at Missouri didn't necessarily ask him to do a lot. But you see the physical talents there. And there's a lot of examples that he's very bright player outside of Colin Murray. Drew lock is the most intriguing or. Wildcard draft prospect in this draft because there's so many aspects of his game that go that guy could be my French is if the brains match the talent he's going to be a top ten draft. What look historically we know the way this works is the quarterbacks always wind up moving up artificially or otherwise higher than we originally project. So we were talking about lock being there at seventeen for the giants. Now, you don't believe that's going to wind up happening. Why is Haskins? It feels to me like people are talking themselves out of Dwayne has gone through this process. You watch all this tape. What is it? You think that people are seeing that is concerning that I'm not seeing it. But here's the I don't know if it's necessarily concern with Dwayne Haskins because there's so much thing that you love a lot of people are kind of saying he's got so much NFL talent around him it receiver where it was. Mccall in or Paris Campbell or whatnot MacLaurin. So there's so much talent around the go. Okay. The other quarterbacks in this draft had that much talent. Would they had fifty touchdowns? And there's greenie there's a beauty in the unknown when it comes to the NFL, especially at the quarterback, right right now, you don't necessarily know what are these kids flaws are? And so you go we can we get past that stuff. I still like Haskins as a prospect, but teams are gonna fall in love because of Patrick Mahomes, and kind of the off-balance athletically type things that we've seen Matthew Stafford drew lock has a lot of that in his game counting down to the NFL draft. And we're also can and get down. Sportscenter tonight stern after PTI was sage and Jay Harris. They will look at the revenge factor for Duke and their game against about tech tonight is tonight's game against the patriots of must win for the Celtics and the best moments from opening day all that more sportscenter after PTI on ESPN and the ESPN app and gather everyone around the table for the Applebee's neighborhood top plays around everyone. Marlton all over. So that means it's time for marches Applebee's top plays. These are the neighborhoods plays and just get ready, folks. These are good we start with number ten, and this is going to be girls basketball state championship watch this five one senior Kelly Shire what a shot she's five foot one. She would score twenty nine points be named the game's MVP the championship game. She's going to play at high point university. She's five one terrific that she's able to knock down the shop on the perimeter life that I'm happy that they were using the shot clock. Yes. What is this? This is. Call it on Seinfeld. Racer? Frisbee golf. I call them the fastest known as MC beast. Okay. Which is a great name for a guy who plays frisbee golf. And what do you think that typical as good sport? Right. I never thrown. A it's called a disc, by the way, I can't even throw bright green green cultural. Look at this kid from the seat of his pants look at somebody got a. Alive. This is more basketball. How about the layup here he hits it off the inbounds pass at the buzzer though for the win. So that has a little more to it. I wanna stay championship. That kids going to Syracuse to play next year. Name is Joseph Gerard, the third. This is college beach volleyball. I want you to watch what's going to happen here. This is this is a legal watch. The foot. Take it. Why can't kick it? The done contest. That's a six to Taylor bully. What did they are you going to say it again? I never got the ball. And I fell on my face. I believe that number four. This is some high school hockey. You gotta watch this twice. So you see between the time. We're gonna show it to you again. It's a good hundred percent. This is in Canada or Minnesota. It's actually handed. It is. Okay. No. It's actually in California. Way off his club, lacrosse you. Probably see this because it went viral watch. Bye. With that play. Who are average? Was his name number two east E H, L hockey. This is in Atlanta. Great save from Sean Bonner of Atlanta. I'm this shouting out Atlanta as many times as well. Down. Maybe gladiators win good stuff right there. For number two. Finally, high school across in Georgia off the face off and watch behind the that goal that will soon. One. Three. How? It was made they had to practice that. All eyes on on Jalen rose. We'll tell you why he's not the player vortex needs to worry about get up continues in Jeff.

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NBA Summer League Championship + Atlantic Division

NBA Gambling Podcast

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NBA Summer League Championship + Atlantic Division

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So i'm excited for a lot of teams. That weren't really expected to do. Well seem to have some really nice development program so we'll chat about that and some more yes sir also joined as always the hardest working man in the sports betting contest content industry. So excited can't even talk. We got mode off munaf. How are you doing well man Zagging sean feel like that. Distant relative You only see like once a year now because nba. Over me and dan have the broadcast show. But it's weird because we usually talk like three or four times a week. But i'm glad to be with you guys as usual man one hundred percent mona your brow not get mad to get on the show. No of course you know that you guys some more casual shows throughout the offseason Talking about where teams are at looking at a small season odds and then getting ready to preview for next season. Because you know these things as always come up on you faster than you think but right now Summer league is in full swing winding down. honestly We do have a championship game. It's going to be the kings versus the celtics In the champions gate we know in that game is taking place munaf. It's tomorrow night. I believe that uh niner eight eastern Let me double check back tomorrow. Night for sure. But i'm determined. Confirm time here. Let's see eight o'clock so yet nine o'clock eastern time yup so we'd nine o'clock eastern time tomorrow tuesday night in. I think they used to have more of a tournament style. Play and now. They're going to straight championship game based on performance in the regular season. Obviously these two teams playing well coming in with the story line. Did you guys see chimpanzee metu throwing hands. Yes so you know. His team comes in but spread here a two and a half Moon up you. You were the one who's is. I mean early thoughts on his game. How these two teams have been playing Coming up into this championship game. Yeah man the celtics. Add just been acidly. Crushing eight-man offensively. I think they're leading in most of the offensive categories points points per game shooting And this is obviously just stack with so many good players calling it. They're the the super team of of the nba similarly because it's mostly the role players. Are the bench. Players are going to be playing. A boston have aaron niece. Myth pain pritchard Royal lane for carson edward so this stack mandate they're knocking down three point shots Sacramento on the other hand with david mitchell there in some of the other guys that they have this is going to be a good final But celtics have an absolutely crushing there. They're shooting has just been just so throughout dishonorably yet. They're coming in with a summer league. I twenty one Point differential and adding. That actually is how they came into this game. timber wolves came in the kings came in second temporal following up in third spread here at two and a half dan anything you see these two teams because you alenia. This is as big of an nba game as you're going to get in august. Hopefully we're not to another kobe bubble so You know we would definitely will be thrown out some bets on this game in the peons lack for sure and and my regards to anyone that took my advice on the new orleans. Pelicans being dog shit because they camp out and actually were one of the better surprises of the the summer league shots trae murphy who played outstanding did a great job. Yesterday i watched them play in the And their final game. If they won by a margin. I believe eleven. They would add a chance to play in the championship but they didn't. They didn't quite get there but That really surprised but yeah in terms of this game. I can't go against the boston. Celtics here. with that. twenty one point margin the sacramento kings. Were next in line to that with thirteen and a half margin of victory and this squad is just to deep man peyton peyton lead the way they got carson edwards. Who's been bombing away aaron. Naismith munaf already went went down the list of all the stellar players that they have really. They just solid bench players that all have nba experience. That got some time last year on the celtics squad. So there's a great position to to take on this trophy here. They've been playing outstanding and yeah. I don't think there's any reason to go against them as the favorite here two and a half points. Yeah definitely more overall. Mba talent on this celtics team who have gone over one hundred points in their last three games on the flip side the kings kind of coming in much more defense team held all of their opponents in vegas to seventy five points or less So you are going to see kind of clashes styles here very interesting for summer league which is kind known more as individual score type type of Environment you see. The sacramento. Kings really bought on the defensive. End obviously led by david mitchell. He's been rock-solid on the perimeter so it will be interesting to civil hige see his minutes against pritchard and carson edwards you know legit. nba guards. Getting that i like a david mitchell. In that scenario. I think i will go the celtics as well. You guys have brought this up. They've been playing a lot more like a veteran group than in a summer league team based on the combination of rest that fifty five assists in their last two games including thirty three assists gaming. That's wild for summer league. of course i'm here breaking down the xs and os You know kick enough for for to Championship go the celtics as well. Any thoughts on this total here. Not what he what he got the total in game. Yeah i think like you mentioned that. That's gonna be a clash of saw two different styles ride mentioned sacramento with defensive mindset and just pure. Shooter said the boston celtics apps and how well their offense has been playing in the summer league I think he's really come down. So i mean it kind of sounds stupid but if celtics are gonna make their shots i think this game is gonna go over. I mean just disappears. I mean a guy that we haven't talked about sam houser house. Just been so good for the boston celtics. He's been shooting lights out We talked about all the shooters. I think one thing to keep in mind Is we're not sure if paid richard is gonna play this game Out a tweet that he was going back to vegas for the championship game but the coaching staff hasn't made the decision if it makes sense for him to play or not in this game so look out for that news tomorrow. I think that's an important information because pain address. Probably been one of the best. If not the best player in the summer league but i'll lean towards the over Like you mentioned that december leagues. I really known for For defense i. It's more often to making shots on us out the over here but i do love the boston. Celtics smarter to win this championship Tamar ed page of pain richard. I believe left the bubble to put up a ninety two point scoring performance. Casual ninety national is the casual ninety two in the portland program which is where he's from so i'm sure that game was important to him but yeah i mean definitely wasn't taking the day off you know just having a casual ninety two. Hopefully he's allowed to play in his game. That's that's a great point. I mean you know. Get your beat writer following For the celtics in in order your bed in this game because that's the best player on the floor up in the air for tomorrow. Dan any final thoughts on this summer league championship game. No other thoughts on the game. But i thought i i enjoyed the summer league overall. Man i wish i was able to to get out there but hopefully next year can can actually make that journey but Yeah it great. Seeing a lot of the rookies you know. I was very impressed by tyree. Smacky play two games camp. Thomas of the brooklyn nets was just an assassin from the field man and You know i think it was. It was great over us. I know we can talk about a little bit later. But i think a lot of these. You know rookies as well. A second second year players probably earned a spot in the rotation from their performances. This summer moon up any top. Stand out for you. In terms of young talent coming up in the league. I think one guy. Second round the National player of the year luis garza. He's been really good. He's release slimmed-down about twenty five pounds actually watching the game right now between them in the magic. He's really good. I know they just signed him to a two year deal. I believe the news out today. He's been really good You know allowed. These guys are like we talked about in boston. And then some of the top draft picks jalen green. I look pretty good for the hell amount with a with a hamstring issue. jalen subs. I was really surprised to see how well of a rebound or jalen sons is especially on defense. He's but he was really outstanding for For for their orlando magic. So you know there's a lot of young talent In the summer leagues is nice. Ac- samis guys getting these. These these contracts for their respective teams yeah. I'm glad you're finally starting to buying the pistons culture. So you know. Luca garza coming up. And i know i know you're watching a. Pistons magic summer league games. So i guess. The motor city The motor city mafia is alive and well dan any individuals shout outs. That you wanna give up before we move on from some earlier. Yeah my boy. Omer your seven men. I think he he got into some really. Didn't play the initial game after coming out of california the california classic but he wound up turning in twenty points eight rebounds so like real solid. This guy is going to be a nice little bench piece for the the miami he also jalen johnson was i. I was very surprised at how good he is. It looks like they got another great one. Tobacco john collins there for the future and lastly ob top and emmanuel quickly. I think that they both played really well. I think that the that the knicks also got a nice one induce mcbride. Roy surprised at the the the knicks. What they did in their served building out there development. 'cause that they that they're gonna definitely have some assets for the future which is great to see for that for that unit yet and you stole those words out of my mouth mcbride. Grimes top and quickly all looking really good and that does put the knicks at more of an interesting crossroads. Here we are going to get to and atlantic divisional down low at the end of this show. So we'll definitely have that conversation when we come to. It also wanna shout out bone thailand for the nuggets. Great story individually coming out of wilmington delaware and natural score so without they quick break. We're gonna come back and get some Free agency up news. Gone down ready to win. Money and boost your odds win. That is now. Live in colorado indiana michigan. 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It sounds kind of crazy for me to save Sometimes i feel like that was a gm. Want part of quiet. Leonard i mean. He is a top five player in this league but just all that extra baggage that comes with kawai leonard. It takes a toll team chemistry and things like that. And he's on the bogle leader writings like lebron james. He's not like you know. Kevin durant or even russell westbrook. Is that our leaders other teams He's kind of that that we know where the best players in the league. I don't think there was a doubt that he was re-signed with the clippers. Right all along when he was with toronto we kind of knew that he's he wanted to go back home to la whether that was going to be able to lakers and the clippers We knew that he was gonna end up there by Yet i mean it made a lot of sensory and kind of get extension secure money for himself. And then i'll be back with the clippers and for titles so i wasn't surprised by Again i don't know what you think about. Why leonard in all the baggage. That comes with them but it just seems like it can take a toll on the locker in team chemistry. It dan any thoughts on that. Yeah i would say that you know. I think it's a surprise that he read up much. Like munaf said. I think he's at his set is is set on staying in la for a while now. He got pretty much everything that he wanted in terms of roster construction. You know all the different you know things that they did to accommodate his requests in terms of like avenues family around in his in his folks and all that stuff but in terms of basketball. I still think that he's he's one of the top five players in the league if you're in playoff time and before he blew up before he tore his acl he was having a great playoff run. The man was unstoppable averaging over thirty points a game so you know what he brings to the table. You've gotta deal with some of the the dramatics and the the diva but honestly i think everybody every superstar kind of has some element of that minus like janice. I think he's probably the one guy i would say that. What's it all out there every every night and usually comes with very little drama. But i think it's worth it ultimately because you've got a guy who's been defensive player of the year. He's a two-time finals. Mvp you don't just find those. You'll find those players everywhere. So i think that the the clippers are rightfully so building around their franchise player. Only question is how batter's knees at this point you know. He's had quite a few injuries and those things are starting to mount. So if we're going to get a joel embiid situation where this guy's literally going to play. Take a quarter of the season off again for load management. You gotta have a really strong core around you to be able to make sure you're getting a decent playoff spot and actually make a run when it matters most. So i think i'd be most concerned about the health concerns but you know i'm not expecting him to play this season if he does come back super late but looking at the clippers moves. And we'll talk about it. You know. Eric bledsoe back in the fold now. They signed justice winslow enough right now to even make a serious run at a championship without him right now. So i think there is gonna take the year you know play with paul. George run. Run the squad for a little bit but then play for the following season. I completely forgot that eric. Bledsoe is a former clipper So him going back there. that's funny. Justice winslow in the makes now too. I mean this is like you said dan this weird team right now especially without kawhi and i think this this kind of shows as well like how fleeting every single year in the nba. Is one. injury can change everything on the job of a dime. You know for the clippers. They have the bubble like kobe. The first year get upset by denver. This year visits team. That i think all of us kind of thought had a pretty good shot at going onto the finals. I know i had them you know making to the finals and everything kinda cleared out for them as well like they basically were. Maybe this knee injury away from getting there now. Another years probably gone Mrs three years saints team where you know. Shay gildas alexander and doc rivers leading his ragtag group and all future flexibility. The cash it in and it hasn't really worked so far although you know a couple of bounces go the other way could so you know same thing with brooklyn like everyone says you know. They have one last year if not for injuries. But you know that's not going to count in the record. Books danny brought up that trade. Patrick beverley goes to memphis As as long along with rage on rondo can't really see them factoring into their future much. So maybe look for those guys to get moved And bledsoe come in the clippers interesting Obviously the concern will be as always How much can he shoot off the catch But interesting time for the clippers. Did you have any takeaways from bledsoe pat bed the that you want to get off. Just yeah i think concerning to be honest man like eric. Bledsoe is a really good defender but at this point the nba is around shooters. Pat beverley is gonna pull it. I'd feel more confident in him doing that. He kinda lost his coup in the playoffs. Obviously shelvin chris paul and the back and you know maybe he was the last the last bit of that trez. Lou will era of like whoa. That's clippers brand of basketball. But i can't help but they lost shit on. The leadership added that locker room when shipped initial rondo and and pat bev outta there and also there right like they still got a morris to win which is great. But i don't know eric bledsoe's cool and all but i don't. I think we all know what. Eric bledsoe kinda brings in. If he can be the. I don't know the the stopping the intermediary to a to a new era in los angeles. Maybe but i doubt it. This is like just kind of like a off the books move. I think it's a good move for memphis. They rid themselves of a bad contract. Probably going to buy out. Regime rondo and pat. bev rockwood. Their squad they did lose grayson allen in the off season which i think actually is a great pick for the milwaukee bucks. But but overall yeah. I think that this is a pretty much. Nothing burger in terms of what what happens for memphis. They just got rid of contracts. And then they're going to proceed on the clippers not blitz overly does for that feature that franchise. It's not a game changer. By any means your great great quote from dan. They're go eric. Bledsoe is cool and all that funny moon up. You'd think anything of this straight. I mean i you know. I think the clippers kinda probably not gonna affect their bottom line. Much does a window. Learn anything like that and i was kind of a wash for memphis but whatever it yeah. I think. This was more of removed for the clippers to you. Don't get rid of some contracts right. I think the what i saw from bobby marx was that a goddamn. They saved thirty million after tax bill. It went from one hundred. Twenty five million down to ninety five and also created a at eight point three million dollar trade exception that they can use throughout the season or at the trade deadline. Or wherever that may be but Gonna go make a quiet. you don't do. We have to mention that. He's missed one hundred fifty games or the last four seasons right. He hasn't played more than more than sixty games once. And you know i mean. We've daubed on eric. Bledsoe a lot on our podcast. And maybe he kim going back to la. Kinda has that reggie jackson affect were reggie jackson. The playoffs last year was really good for the la clippers. Maybe it has that temple effect. But i'm not sure. I gotta see it before i can buy eric bledsoe again. I mean is third team. I believe in two years from the milwaukee bugs to the allegations and now to the clippers. So again zach mentioned a contract for them to get off the boats in. What just what. Dan said his dad or the memphis. I'll be surprised to see any three of those guys on this roster come when the season starts because they do already have do have a logjam at that gar position for the members pughsley so Ahead scratch for a lot of people bide made if he kind of look at where the contracts are moving and expiring contract. That memphis do have that. They will have some flexibility at the internet season. They're in a prime position. Because triple j's on for up for an extension and some other guys on that roster outbreaks inches than again. You saw job miranda. You're going to have to pay eventually. So i guess it kind of trade for me. Yeah definitely Point there the injuries have been you know getting piling up on one another a lot of time and you also have those flashes where it's like you know in that series against dallas looking like a top two or three player in the nba Maybe even the best player in the nba. But it's also so fleeting because of the injury concerns now likely to miss another season with dallas quick break and then we'll come back and start this divisional download with the boston celtics. Who have made some moves recently. Today's episode of our dubai paramount plus the summer soccer continues on paramount plus trio or two thousand soccer matches a year from around the world all the heart pounding drama from cbs. Sports including uefa champions league europa league. It'll styria argentina's. 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Thoughts on the state of where these teams are at starting with the The atlantic herring. We'll start with the boston celtics. Who had a pretty busy past week. Or so bringing dennis schreuder and then now tonight. We hear word that they are resigning. Marcus smart to afford year. Seventy seven million dollars contract extension for marcus. Smart to stay in boston moon. What'd you think of. These moves here for the celtics gonna about sh- shooter shot himself in the foot. Man i mean you got the contract offer on the table from la laker. I think it was like what four years around eighty four million dollars in now to boston. Team where you're only getting paid five point nine million dollars. I mean i would fire. I if if whoever dan shooters agent is he needs to be fired. Because i mean this this. I can sleep at night. I mean it's still five nine million dollars but compare that to eighty four million. That's tough yeah. It's israel but it makes sense because we talked about last season that whilst needed address or point guard position. You have jason tatum. Jalen brown on this team. Kim walker was really the answer because he was dealing with a knee issue All throughout the season Bring shooter and recite marcus. Smart i think now is the time for marcus smart to really embrace that role of being the thirty dollars team you know. He's a great to way guy. I think he got to work on his offensive game. A little bit more die. You do have again shooter. Who is a guy that can get you know anywhere from seventeen eighteen. Maybe even twenty points at night so they did a good job of addressing wing position by I'm still not sure from sold on this boston. Celtics team next season. Yeah and obviously kind of a disappointing season for them last year. Coming off Like we say you know. Basically being a favorite to make the finals against miami heat come out with kind of disappointing season ended up as a seven seed. You know go get foreign aid. Doesn't really work. Um and then obviously lose the nets in the first round. I mean dan. Would you think of last season for boston. And the any of their moves the summer just days just days and tatum and make a lee. Where do you see them. Going into next year of the hierarchy of eastern conference contenders. Yeah i point. I think that this is going to be the first season where we really see jason. Tatum go off. I think ayman jalen brown are going to have really good seasons now that they're the focal points with kemba walker. Kind of out of the way. I think we can give the dummy of the year to dennis schreuder. Man i mean. This guy completely fumbled the bag and even if he's playing on a one year contract to potentially get some more money next year like do just missed out on a ton of bread so between him. Pj washington and you know what. I'm saying his decision to wife Brittany renner. who's this god. Damn dude man is indebted to this chick for eighteen years now like the worst. The worst decisions possible also saw twitter. That somebody's eric. Bledsoe is getting passed around more than britney brittany renner good but now go back to the celtics squad. Man i they did. They actually made some pretty good moves in the offseason. They got al horford back. I visited that was one of the biggest pieces that they were missing in. The front court was someone that can actually play some defense pair him up with with time. Lord i think the you actually have a pretty decent front court there and then they also went out and grabbed josh richardson. Who definitely didn't play very well for the dow's mavericks last year. But he at least gives you some ability to play defense as well as stretch the floor and a couple that with dennis shooter. Who can get a bucket. I think this team is actually shaping out a little bit better on paper than they were last season really because they need to address that front court and they also got some guard play help because they really didn't get much out of kemba walker last year the do plan on one leg rehabilitating. His knee didn't really show up until january february. I think you're getting a healthy marcus. Smart he got a really favorable favorable deal. That guy must love brad stevens because to come back on four years. Seventy seven million. That's a that's a steal bargain for what he brings to the table. So you know. I think that the this will probably be better but this still isn't a championship roster by any means. I think that their window might have closed for that. But they're definitely going to be. There are going to be competitive team. I'm expecting them to put you know much of the offense around tatum. And and jalen brown today have a new coach and he may daca so curious to see how they how pans out but the thing is that they're going to be interesting with boston changing up their their operations a little bit getting some new faces and probably a more versatile system that that plays more balanced basketball. Yeah i mean. I think there's like a lot of options for his team out of flexibility. You have pritchard kinda throwing himself. And then mix is a guy who might command some playing time jock richardson's a guy who you know. Might be a good option to close games for them with like they to kind of figure out their identity around jalen and jason. You know they didn't really do that. Do a great job with that. This year never really made it work with kemba either You know and it's interesting. We haven't really seen like these two wing teams kind of figure out exactly how they wanna play for the clippers. And me i think hawaiian paul george star kind of put together Later in the playoffs for them. Before co i got hurt. And then ozzie paul. George exploded without him. But you know how to and jason really fit together as the alpha's going forward like it seems that they're trying to build around them. Marcus smart. i think he's obviously a key component to any winning teams. I like vision. Horford shooting big. You know hove league and rejuvenate his career. He played pretty well last year at times. And okay see But it will be interesting to see how how things come together for them I mean what do we think. Close games for this team. Is it smart. Schreuder or You know they will options. Yeah sounds No bail got a good pretty good backup center. They also got cancer back. We have created right. So i think that's a good back up for the bench I'm not sure i. Donald traded for moses brown thing. They sent him off in bed josh. Richardson trade to dallas. I'm not sure what. I would probably hung onto him because dan really pointed out last season where this guy was getting double doubles like. It was nothing because he says great length. But i think you know going back to your question dan closing. Obviously you're gonna have to superstars with jaylen brown jason tatum. I think you have to throw al horford in their body. Dennis shooter to give it another ball handler. In gotta be marcus smart right. I mean it's common small. No but i mean those are probably our best players probably on the floor in in the clutch minutes. Yeah i mean it will be kind of see where prichard fits into that. He's someone that can be pretty good for them guy jock richardson. I mean he obviously look at kind of a budding superstar. Now superstar a star a high quality role player in miami. And then kind of you know fizzled out in his next couple of stops. Let's keep the train moving here. The brooklyn nets pretty quiet off season. You know bringing patty mills as their big fish. And i think he's going to be a great favour offensively also bring back blake griffin. Bring back bruce brown delus- jeff green but most of the same guys are back Jane johnson someone who could come in and gives a minutes for yana. So you know this is probably one of the more simple teams to talk about. I mean seems like last year championship favorite if not for injury. Is there any reason to change that. Going into next season moon off. Think so i mean. I think that patty mills moves so underrated. Imagine really love that. Move because this guy is is a bona fide veteran. A jamie pedigree. I mean since it's going to be so good for the brooklyn nets coming off the bench Header three stars with kevin durant. Kyrie irving james. Our health is gonna be the biggest thing for this team because if you have those three guys on the floor at any given time ready to give a night especially in the playoffs all have a chance to win again. I think for the brooklyn nets. One thing that they will have to work on his off seasons Defending in our think offensively. There's nothing to worry about. But steve nash Kinda put together a game plan at a regular really gonna have to commit on the defensive end up the basketball yet. dan are. Are you as high brooklyn going into this year. I mean that's the biggest question. I think munaf just pose right there is what are they going to do about defense because their offense is unstoppable. Patty mills. I mean i. I wanna be surprised. Camp thomas sneaks his way into the rotation might james you know he was the one that was going to tow at that pro-am with with pain pressure. Drop like sixty three point. So i mean this bench has microwave buckets all over it. But i just don't know who's going to be playing defense. Blake griffin. He played with a lot of heart last year. But i'm wondering if he can put that through for a full season you get de'andre jordan back. Who can really guard the pick and roll the guys shelve himself defensively. And then you lose. I think it's underrated. They lost jeff green. I mean he was a really good stretch for for them. Offensively and defensively. So you pick up. John dre bribery to me. That's a whatever pick up you know. Bruce brown was getting a lot of minutes at that three four range. He's an excellent rebounder for a size. But i don't know. This team is the odds-on favourite to win a chip. Obviously for the big three that they have. But i have my concerns in my doubts whether this team can stay healthy drama free for a full season and play defense. I don't know to me. It seems like the parody amount around the league. I wouldn't be surprised if the nets got shocked again or something happened late in the season that prevents them for wynonna from winning the chip but know all things equal and this team remains healthy. Sure they're going to be putting up an insane amount of points where it's gonna be really tough to. Even even if their defenses bad they'll still be one of those to be one of the best teams in the league bar. None is this. You can't stop their their offense. I think for the nets. I think the key focus probably gonna be just. It doesn't matter what the end up ad that just had a big three healthy at the finish line for the play offs. Have those guys healthy because in a seven game series of all those. All three of your guys are healthy along with patty. Mills james johnson. And the other guys that you mentioned dan it'll be very difficult to beat the same. No matter what seed they're add. I mean i don't think hole or what doesn't matter as much in the nba. Because we've said time and time again. Is that the playoffs series. As start until i wrote team wins so Just just had those three guys healthy. And i think that's probably going to focus for the brooklyn nets throughout the season. You're going back real quick. I feel like this is on james harden because he's the only one that has improved anything yet in the playoffs right like at car. We had his moment. You know durant obviously the beast. Butch james harden that always winds up either getting gas in games getting hurt whatever. He's got that. Chris paul thing about him wherever slander say. It's this show up on him now. Everybody else's proved it's on him. Now i mean i think he proves something playing forty six minutes of bum answering in the playoffs last year. I'm obviously a james harden defender. Till i die i think you guys as of great points there and it does come down to help. I think in terms of the chemistry issue that you raised an looked pretty good last year. It'll be interesting to see what happens with these extensions here. Looks like Some reporting that they're trying to get the got. Kevin durant extended trying to get james harden kyrie locked in for the future So i think what's great about the the kind of roster tinkering they did is they can probably win a lot of games in the regular season even with you know one of these guys resting every night or two of their messaging every night you know. Patty mills guy can come in get buckets joe. Hair obviously a lethal regular season player. Can thomas you know looking like someone who can come in and score. So the offense shouldn't suffer too much even when they do. Have you know wrestling and injuries regular season but obviously the favorite definitely be my pick to come out of the eastern conference next year. Let's tickets in new york across town. I'll start with. I mean do next. Make the playoffs next year. Yes or no Munoz will start with you and think so man. I mean they're returning pretty much the same raw stratus last season a boston couple role players. That been really matter. Think reggie bullock is private significant when they lost to the dallas mavericks. Bud you still added kim walker. You added a form as so again. Like i mentioned we had talked about. The signings was if you're going to be able to get to get those two guys commit on defense ban because they were the best defensive defense efficient team last season in the entire nba. That's what kind of led him into the playoffs. Right you get the offensive out. Now that takes some pressure off of julius randle You so have. Derrick rose on this team you added a pretty good pieces Via the draft. But then you know you're looking for iq it's bigger next step topping to take that next step so the players are certainly there. You have a great head coach with Is again you know. Can you sustain which you did on the defensive end last year and then can you be a little bit better on the offensive end because in the plows when we saw against atlanta it was a it was a little tough for them to score points. Because they didn't have those planemakers by you added like i said kemba walker formulas. That's really helped them out but fully expect dicks to be back in the playoffs. Next season yeah. And i think for my reaction is all season got. There's a lot more as we see the knicks coming through summer. League is i feel like it's. It's tough because you have now kind of enticing group of young players that you really want to give a lot of minutes to with what grimes mcbride. I've shown in summer league. The streisand top quickly have shown those are all blocked in his death star. You know by win now veterans and combined. What time does philosophy of. He's going to play bats as many minutes as they can handle you know. I think the idea that you're going to old. Julius randle thirty minutes so that topic and develop behind him. That's not realistic. On the way that we know tibbs to kind of handle his his roster So i think that's a little bit concerning for me with knicks that yes you know. I think this team can be good this year. And we'll be good this year. I i like the additions. They made into the winning games this year. But you also do have this really enticing group young players who aren't going to be able to play much and it seems like you know they're really only hope is to trade. These is eventually you know. I think it's unlikely that you're they're gonna be building an organic team of talent in new york but we do have a nice group young talent that you'd like to see come in the organization. So i think a little bit torn there But i do think that the knicks if they do put their pedal to the metal will be back in the playoff picture for sure And the question to me. Is you know if they struggle early like you know if they hit some bumps in the road and other teams in the east are looking better. Do they make moves at the deadline to kind of set themselves back a little bit in terms of now and give these younger guys a chance to shine dan. I know you were also impressed by the knicks. Young court summer league. I am and i'll pose a question do you. Do you think that they did enough in the off season to be to be at to repeat as top five team in the east no. I don't think they're a top. Five team in the east would be very surprised. I think you're looking more at a play in you. Know eight seven nine nineteen. Yeah i tend to agree. And mainly because like i get you gotta. I figured they'd made the right move and re signing julius randle despite him having one of the worst performances an nba playoff history. In terms of efficiency. I mean he showed enough in the regular season. Maybe he just ran out of gas. But you know. I i want to see that. Next leap. From rj barrett they get a really good season in comparatively to you know his rookie season So i think the development is there. But you're right that logjam in the guards specifically i think is this. It's going to take a couple years for them to rid themselves of those veterans to actually give their their future a chance. And i think that those are more so just promising assets that they should hopefully be able to flip to get a veteran. So i think you're spot on there by also they. They need some health on their side. As well mitchell robinson. They didn't get to see much out of him last season. He needs to stay healthy for this team to be a serious threat in the east. And derrick rose back for another year i think he played outside of his mind. It's a great story. But ultimately i think that this this next season's really going to be evan forty-eight real because you paid him shit on money a decent deal right but like essentially. That's the same money that marcus smart just got pretty much and i will take marcus. Smart money over evan. As any day of the week but hopefully he can parlay that into a more confidence season. Unlike what he did for the boston celtics of the second half of the season but ultimately i think the knicks are a playoff team. I just don't they. They're going to be either. They're gonna be in this purgatory of fringe. They're going to be a playoff team. That's going to get amid round draft. Pick for the next three years until they figure out how to get another superstar to pair in in new york that won't have julius randle bean. The focal point of the offense campbell walker. That's good pick up to kemba walker going to be good And you look at this this death chart. I mean mcbride and grimes destroyed. Trade aren't gonna play and going to be like eighteen minutes and toppings going to be like sixteen minutes so you know it'll be interesting to see if they do end up making deals the season with regard to the forty eight. Marcus smart. I mean moon off and i talked about this. I think last week like very interesting. Basically every single second tier shooting guard got somewhere between like seventeen and twenty million that mark kind of got pretty defined so marcus smart against coming in slightly above that dan. Let's think of the year team which is philly Y'all kind of quiet around there these days and waiting to dan. Obviously you know the second. I say kind of a look you know. I don't even know what the look was. Then what are what feeling comes to mind when you think about this sixers team in that kind of in a little bit of purgatory right. Now with the ben. Simmons question looming over. You know what's going. On with this franchise i think you. You said it best man. It's been awfully quiet eerily quiet disgustingly quiet fucking pissed man. Like what are we doing. We're sitting here just watching by. We signed danny green. The dow was probably the most productive thing that happened this off season. I gotta go into the bag of how much i hated andre drummond in the offseason last year last season and now he's on my squad. Awesome great get to watch this shitty brandon ball. I mean is he better than dwight howard. It's like comparable. But like i don't want either one of them like i'd rather rock with paul. Read at this point after what he did in the summer league. Yes the summer league. But like i saw upside with this guy. He got steals blocks. He's got handles. He's aggressive on the rebounds. Like i'd rather invest in that. Then this we know what andre drummond is. He's a fucking bum. And then we go to ben simmons. He's just holding us hostage at this point and i think darrow maury is a little bit. He's trying to maximize value. But like at this point. I don't know what the trade value is is definitely not for first round picks wiggins and wiseman so at some point. He's going to add to snap back to reality and get us whatever. We can what i will say is. I'm really hyped on our future. I think j springer was a really good pick. He's got a lot of upside eighteen years old. He's gotta develop a shooting like every other draft pick at the sixers. if picked in the last like probably decade. But i that there's promise there as well as reese maxi. I think he really showed that he did not belong in the summer league which i think is a great point for the future but ultimately at the window is closing for the sixers man. Like you're wasting at this point. You gotta do something drastic to get something out of joel and beads prime. And he's not gonna play every game probably going to miss a quarter to half the season every year because of is wait injuries. Whatever combination of that. Seth curry is a great player to have alongside him with some other pieces. But you gotta get a dame's damer bus for the sixers to me. And if they don't get anything like that they're just going to be where. The knicks are middle tier two bottom tier playoff team. That's going to get amid round selection and disappoint from here on out. So i don't see much promise in the sixers right now based off the moves and the lack of moves that they've made any time you get andre drummond on your squad your almost committing to a losing season at this point prove otherwise. How would he sees as andre drummond ad. I think he made the playoffs with the pisses All we need now is for. We'll barna get traders at a rockets. And then you know you guys are full. Circle man munoz. The sixers like look. They were still right there last year. In the thick of things you know down the stretch of the regular season and obviously things didn't work out in the playoffs but monopoly. Are you dropping this team below the miami. The atlanta's of the conference now. yeah. I think so. I don't think they're gonna be a top five team in the east season. I don't think so. I mean would i think you haven't darrow more maure in your organization. He's gonna try to nickel in dine anything in anything that he can get for. Ben simmons and i kinda feel like he's trying to get a trade package like something of compensation like he got like the rockets kinda got. I mean it almost seems like the rockets at this point what they got for hardin didn't seem like much now with their with the draft package or the draft picks of a guide. I think maury probably saw some severe bite like dan said that you're not gonna get four first round pick for this guy. I mean. i don't even think he's a top twenty player in the nba honestly You're going to swing for the fences and get a damian lillard type of player because if you don't how long before joel embiid wants to get out of philly to ride because now you're gonna nights are wasting his quote unquote prime years. He's a he's he's injury prone. I mean he hasn't played a full season in god knows how long were if ever. There's troubling times does a sixers fan in that organization. Man i mean i love you know steph curry. He did really well last season for them. But outside of joel embiid. You don't really have much. I think like gant said it's going to have to be a daimiel or type of player but it doesn't seem like dane is gonna leap orland So i mean. I don't know i don't know i i kinda wanna get your opinions on. What dow for this team is. Yeah i was definitely someone who was hired on. Ben simmons trade value. I think compared to both of you guys. I still think that he i. I actually thought in the beginning of the off season. They could convince someone to you. Know pay top dollar for him In a trade in terms of assets. But i think now as we see the summer start to go along obviously there amaury his his bluff. Clearly you know no no one's calling yet or everyone's calling it yet. I guess would be the way to say it. You know he hasn't gone moved yet. And the issue for the sixers. That ben simmons can't rehabilitate his trade value. The regular season like we know he is a very good regular-season player in the things that he does. Well you know are at a premium than regular season. The issues that he presents for you in the playoffs don't really come up and are nowhere near the magnifying glass. In these regular season games at the beginning of the year especially before freight line like. I really think if they wanna get. Ben simmons back to that peak. It's going to have to come from him. Showing he can participate in the offense. You know in a playoff game And and they're not gonna opportunity to show that to kinda get more out of it for a deal for this season. Particularly which is why i think honestly their best bet is to try to run it back at some semblance if you're not going to get a dame like return You know whether that's tenable from the locker in perspective. I don't know but you know ben. Simmons is probably better than whatever. You're getting back from. Ben simmons that makes sense you know like. I don't think you're going to get a player better than him. Maybe you know at this point and a future combination of picks. How are you going to sell it. The joel embiid. Obviously joel be probably holds the cards in these in his franchise right now. He's that good of a player so it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Look if they run back to the exact same team obviously is a bad taste in everyone's mouth but i still would have them. Probably you know in that top. Five right there with miami kinda chasing brooklyn and milwaukee Maybe maybe a little bit above. The hawks mean definitely think they were rightfully favorite in that series against the hawks last year. And you know those two teams are paintings them kind of had an opposite directions. But i don't know any other thoughts on the sixers an anything i said there. Yeah i think those are great points. Both good points on rational points. I should say. I'm obviously a bit more. It's obviously closer to its closer to home for maitha but Very logical points on both ends. And like i will say like worst-case scenario i think the running it back. Scenario probably makes the most realistic sense. And i think you're right like the only way he can build back up. That capital is to show that he's he can actually be a part of that offense in the playoffs. But you know i. I don't think the added to this team was probably the biggest fraudulent team in the nba. Last year they were the one seed. And i think that that was fortunate. Luck once we. What's it got real. I think they're true cards. Showed and i think that they can be schemed. Now that they see what this roster is constructed with either. They're going to be either. They're going to be in trouble. Miami is going to be a really good team. I think the hawks are also going to be coming back like that. That was a totally different squad. Second half of the season under nate mcmillan so I think that they're going to be in for a rude awakening here. Probably finishing sixth seventh in the in the east and obviously Wound on that as well as team here in the atlantic division to kinda take us out for the night very interesting team in this kind of seemed to be at a crossroads. When with the surprising. Pick in scotty barnes at number four and they kind of had this interesting mix you know. Not totally dissimilar from the knicks of interesting young players and some more veterans. Fred van billy. Pass cow siaka. Obviously pascal siaka subjective trade rumors now looking like they won't trade him he's the one who was injured Moon apple start with you. I mean where you kinda have with this raptors team. Do you still hold them in the regard that we held them going into last year where they were locked playoff team or are they more of what we saw from last year where they were fourth on the bottom of the for me. It's it's really trying to figure out what the identity of the toronto rappers is right. Because we've heard likely bench with the pascal. Siaka rumored is that he was going to be on the trade blog with you know we heard teams like the golden state warriors at the orleans was another team. That was out there. That was rumored to get him but again. What is identity of this team. Because i don't think they really did anything to address what their main issue was inside in the pulse. Right i mean. They got sorry presses. Chiro from the miami heat in the lowry deal But it's going to be good enough for a big man to defend. That ain't i think that's we'll see that. In the season we picked up. Scott barnes draft dot net. That's a really good pickup. Obviously but i mean they have players on this team right siaka. You have ginobili who have Fred band lead. They have guys on the score by and you also do have borne drudge by. We kind of heard on social media bad. That's not where he wants to be. I guess or over the case might be. But i'm still kind of out on this rappers team until actually see them. Put it all together. Obviously of great head coach with nick nurse by for me was vehicle to the season and then throughout the season colonising what their identity is and what they wanna do because who knows come trae deadline seattle could be on the move for you know a team that needs that kind of that second or third or so You know that is where. I kinda stand with the toronto raptors. I'm not sure who they are. What they wanna be but they may be getting back. Toronto other home court may help them a little bit by again. I i'm not. I'm coming out. I'm out on the seat yet. It is tough. They didn't address center position. You know with you. Know a bona fide starter. You gotta have now cambridge precious. Chris boucher gonna compete for minutes. They're not really proven option. I so i was all in on the rabbit last year. You know major loser raptors win totals had a now predictably kind of on them as as kind of a post type sleeper I really liked a lot of names on this team. I mean like you said you don't really know what they are kind of a weird mix of old and even old like pascal siaka only twenty seven oh gees only twenty. Four just feels like the kind of been around ally in toronto. Obviously some deep playoff runs But just as named fred vanfleet malachi flynn the back court and then between shrank and obi siachen and scotty barnes mean really intriguing wing. So you know. I think with nick nurse is expected to put something together there kind of at a similar level prior to the nixon. My is you know a backhand playoff team but one that could go either direction me. We saw them last year. Opt for the tanking route late in the season that panned out But you know they were kind of a dual identity team. When when they were healthy they were still you know books. Like a like a quality playoff teams in terms of the line and i was getting beat up by that. All year Dan would you think of last season for his team. And how do you kind of think of toronto coming into this year. It's hard to really get a gauge of what. Toronto is going to be this season when they're actually not having to play when they're actually having to play in their own arena. You know their own their own environment and obviously the landscape is changed a bit. There legend collaborated probably the best. Toronto raptors player in their history is gone so really what the identity of the team. I think munaf was spot on with that. And i'm really concerned about the teams height here. I mean they don't have a player over six ten on the squad. So you iraqi cameras. Your center with superlight chris boucher. Who could get bodied by you. Know the smallest big men in the league. Either they're really going to have trouble rebounding the ball as well as protected the interior which you know for a playoff team. That's going to be a really difficult thing to match but their offense. I think you're right. Cbs have a lot of talent within their backward and their front court in terms of like. Oh anna newbie. I'm expecting him to take a leap forward you know. He showed a lot of promise in in his thirty six numbers. So i think he's gonna get an opportunity to get more shots up you sign. Excuse me gary trent to a deal. So i think that he obviously showed that he's capable shooting guard there to play alongside fred vanfleet Malachi flynn and practice chew both showed out really well in the summer league. Giving you a little bit of promise that you know the young talent that you do have in your system could actually flourish a little bit. I don't see that many back. End teams in the nfc and the the atlantic division kind of competing with them or excuse me the the The eastern conference. But you know are we talking about a a real threat to any of the top three teams in the east. No but i do think that they have a playoff playoff hopefuls for sure. Yeah i can almost guarantee. I'll be giving out on this podcast. You know some sort of raptors team till our window to lower rather to make the playoffs. I always find a way to get sucked into these kind of teams speaking summer league dan. Luca garza like munoz said twenty one points and fifteen rebounds as the pistons win three straight to close out summer league So you know munoz's stand out putting up big numbers tonight but any other thoughts on the atlantic vision. Here we gone on. We'll get out of here. But i any final brought you guys want to get off your chest thing that's all i had You know kind of looks. Like the class of the atlantic division is going to beat the brooklyn nets and then and i think boston the mood that they may. They'll i think they'll be competitive that you know we're kind of waiting to see you know with the sixers what they do with ben simmons and then the identity of toronto raptors and and new york. He'll be back in competing at the level that they were last season but definitely a division that one of the upper ones. I mean many given season of these all. These teams are competitive in good seen in the past. I think this could be probably one of the most difficult divisions in the entire british fear. All five of these teams are going to be disappointed if they don't make the playoffs and you know for brooklyn and philly in boston probably disappointed. They don't make second round of the playoffs for brooklyn. You know even deeper than that. Dan anything else. You want to get out now. Good but i think that Munaf clothes that are really well. I do think that you know while there's division is probably one of the most competitive in the league I think we'll see you know it's gonna be brooklyn versus everybody else pretty much and then either there's going to be a dog or a dog fight between the knicks. This the sixers. Probably the boston celtics project and the come in last in the division. But i think the knicks that nixon philadelphia matchup is going to be really interesting this year. Yes sir and great show guys We will be back on thursday mckee. We're doing monday thursday on the nba. Gambling podcast feed. Please describe review this pack as viewing stored and listened to all the podcast. Let me sports gambling podcast network. Also join us in the slack channel. That asked you. Pin's lash lack had some good discussion of this summer league championship. Game tomorrow Also we can find our Written articles sports game lane. Podcast dot com dan. Where can people find you on twitter and especially with the new job announcement. I saw got a lot of love on. Yes no got the softest checkmark and the game. But you can me at dan tied. That's what her and Yeah bill the look on the next eight to ten days. I saw a tweet from mark stein that the nba scheduled should be released in the next coming weeks. So i will actually have some content to provide you some futures once that What's that comes to fruition but Yeah hit me up on twitter man. Moon applicability to find you want if on twitter at sports nerd eight to four dropping all my mlb plays in futures. i've drops them on there so finding their dm's are always open. I was guys asking me about you. Know this data the other always happy to help whatever it takes. Kill the book so reach me out on twitter. Halley a i you will put up great numbers in the mlb. Tally site Contest today So shout at you for that. I just saw a piston minus one point five summer league. 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Sweet 16, Elite 8 Preview

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Sweet 16, Elite 8 Preview

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I just saw you earlier you're going to be on get up on taking. I had to find I have a big data Mark some of these squares show. And you know, it doesn't get no the three ten seventy that twenty minutes with you award-winning. Well today, we've got Bruce Pearl got painter. We've got legendary Don Fisher. And we've got my high school the fighting fifty nine is Andrea out date chaps serious. That's a big even write a big check pay for drinks. I'll write a big check. I mean. And of matter misses the check is not going to be able to be cashed if it's big, but L right-center hunkered pick sharpei match painter. What he's doing team? You know, we're gonna get into these games. I don't wanna hijack and you just get into that game for I wanted to south. Okay. And then we'll start with ten flexible. Here's what I think. If you think flat. Here's what I would say Matt painter last year when they played Tennessee in the Bahamas told me, basically the entire year how his team got intimidated beat up physically by grant Williams. This is going back a year and a half. Not this year in the Bahamas. Previous year, the respect that Matt and the team half for grant Williams is incredible me, I would say this. I would say Purdue thus far is the team of the tournament. Simply because they're got the defending champs two out of three years down thirty six. I'm believable. Now. People seem to forget this about Villanova's biggies champs biggies tournament champs. Florida state. Yes. Damn good basketball team and produced got him down thirty six and what happened in that game? Carson Edwards at forty to enforce it. He didn't go nuts early actively aggressive. They say yes in love. And I did a number of Purdue games. And he would come out if he comes out jacking up bad threes as he did in the first game against forget who they played Nobel dominion producing trouble. If he is selectively aggress did a game against a high of state. Seth of all the games I've done this year. Nobody played better than Purdue against. Hi, oh state because Carson Edwards came out to defend ball drive the ball run, then shoot. And when he does I'm telling you, they can be Tennessee. Now, Tennessee tough is L not going to get anything over them. You're going to have to play really well, but I like Purdue in that game. Because I just think there's something about this crew. I was really impressed with them defensively. Yeah. Their team defense eastern eight eastern guard. Anyone anyone and he said thick and yet long and tough. And yes is go and harms the job they've done with him. He looked they have to unique difference makers on defensive event harms, and and and no gel eastern are different makers on a defensive end. I mean, they really are harms flying around. I'm gonna do this. He he's a couple of biscuit short. But I mean, I mean he just plays with so much energy and so passionate and so and his teammates like they they enjoy it because he's the one. Guy that gets like outside is conference emotionally. And then all the other guys are just so locked in and focused and tough and determined. And you know, the other thing about map painter. I think that's really interesting. He doesn't get seduced by all the BS like he recruits his type of guy. He's dead. Nuys. In a couple of years in west Lafayette. Goose rise Chris players, married. He did take a couple of chances. This went produce slipped a few years ago. And he said, look I went after guys that didn't fit they weren't the greatest players, but they just weren't the fit guys and had end up getting rid of a couple of guys that were from Indianapolis that were good that one guy state, and it just didn't work. So he kind of went back to the PJ PJ Thompson who played let wasn't really recruited to code him. Turn it over with intern. And then they fit a no gel eastern. I think this is true only starting guard in college basketball that didn't make three now he doesn't think it for. So I'm saying, I mean, he has everything he he'll post you. But it's going to be tough against Tennessee. Right. I mean, Tennessee shows up for Tennessee half of the second the bone the bone. Carson Edwards match. Interesting. It is going to be really really what happened gel eastern on Scofield you talking about to physical tough gresson f- guards Scofield's gotta be a little bit more consistent pace is going to be interesting that game. I think and two teams that are you know, up front. They don't get a ton. Like, I look at. I looked Tennessee. Like, you want more out of Kyle Alexander and focus, and then again, I would think that at times Matt wants a little bit more at a harms, and and Williams Williams is back out that that that lesser role. I think that's going to be that's going to be as good as we'd sixteen game. As there is been a job painters done. He's got guys that can pass and catch the guys at his most shoot shoot. I watch. Close. I was really and they're one of the few teams that moves people. Lot of people the ball moves a little bit in college really moves. But in Purdue people move to I mean, ask circling you're cutting and to your point what happened at Tennessee. I and we can go on to other games. But I think it was the simplest bigly took the foot off the gas. I will played really hard. And I swear to God when your coaching on the sideline it's it is literally like a snowball coming right at you that you're trying to stop. But I will say good for Tennessee. They got it figured out grant Williams made plays and they got it done. And they play you like Purdue he liked Tennessee. You go with the Boilermakers on picked Tennessee, my BRAC, and you still just staying with my brand. I am really impressed with I really impressive. What about the top? Hafer Jinyan, Oregon, Oregon alone sleep with alone, the double digits to get into the Sweet Sixteen coach, I've got Virginia. I think Virginia exercise that demon. I think Virginia DC Keith as plan really, really. He bit. Yeah. I mean, you're talking to guys Markley Hollywood take anything at this point. Hey, guys, have great hair. And then they mess with it. Just as more accentuated. What? His him blocking shots. I'm catching lobs and Dunkin, and that's just what the is is. He is different. It's just in like cow guys been okay, drums, sometimes disappears dry. I don't think Drome has to score Jerome scores. When you need him to the Andre hunters the guy when the guy when a game gets tough unless guys have one of those nights. Like, yes. Some one of those nights where ball hits his hands. And it's off. How does the guy that's got to go win games from at the end again? I think this I think from an Oregon standpoint Wooten, we talked about right? I mean, he look don't the one thing that Oregon. I think can do I think I think they can speed it up a little bit. And that may be that may sound dumb 'cause they play that soft pressure to slow you down on. Yeah. And and I'm watching them. And I'm thinking, you know, what if I'm playing against Virginia. I I want at least get it going to little bit. And I know that it opens it up maybe for cow guy or or that kind of stuff. But man when you got a big guy near that block shots like Wooton does. And you got a kid like Pritchard that can make shots. I just think you gotta you gotta get some easy bucket somewhere. Like you cannot grind every stinking possession. So of Oregon could get it down drag it shoot a little I just. I don't like Oregon in this game. But I am not totally in love with Virginia. I just think that you can guard those two guards see I think Oregon is going to continue to do that soft pressure. So that they only have to guard mover Blau all that stuff for junior. Does. Yes will Virginia in a shorter clock is ticking. Only have by the time. They advance over half court. A little bit of short clock. And they get them out of rhythm offensively where they can't move your side aside, and then maybe some long rebounds and get out and purchased. Good at he. Yeah. I news go would you be mad if Prichard at twenty shots, and again, no, in fact, when I say move he made he made that one deep. Oh, it was from the parking lot just saying you you gotta make shots against them and was shot. Ready yen. You can whip it. And you just can't I don't know more. I watch them more. You just can't try to grind every possess. I like to soft pressure, but I like getting out against them to keep it ball, reverse you both like with this. He's whiny on it. I am all your little. Little shocking used to that south region. We're going to talk about the mid west here. Auburn was a team that coming in. I thought it's just maddening. It's one of those teams kinda like of Virginia or Michigan this year. One of those that you thought this just seems like one of the higher seeds. It's going to go out. And yet here Bruce Pearl is in the Sweet Sixteen in his team's live by three die by the three. Oftentimes in the NCA tournament. They're living by three right? Yeah. I think they're really good. Unfortunately, playing the team. That's really, really. Yeah. I I think the best Kobe white his improvement. Oh, and he makes like we talk about the draft that we want to have this synergy between in bay in college. Kobe whites going to be between five and eight or nine draft them. His second speed is building. He doesn't run his team perfectly. But he's in him. He looks like an NBA guards physically straw, Cam Johnson everytime. He shoots talk about fast. Auburn gets fast. Carolina gets all up the floor like in. Light years. I mean, it's ridiculous the ground this thing they're going to be this game. I just think Carolina's better. I think Cam the most underrated. Thanks, honest to goodness heat. Does everything you want he handled it, and then I look at and I don't know. I don't know the NBA parallelly because I look at camp Johnson. I'm thinking to myself is due to play in the NBA as long as he shoots. It looks like looks like a little bit farther NBA lines. Not going bother him. All I heard was Nasiri little little Nasiri little in this freshman class and Kobe white, man. I think he I would I would argue that caches Winston is the most valuable point guard in the country to his team. But I would also argue the Kobe wide is second. I think he's an incredibly valuable guy guard ball guard. What's EMMY scoring point guard Bogart, I would've answered that for you. I've heard that a few times we just say scoring point guard because that's it's hard to say, vulgar, more syllables all guard Boga like I played to Bogart's when I coach two guys that can make. Initiate office can score. What about what does that do a guy decision game that time man at that term process? You might use it might steal that you probably will give me what does it do late in the game for covy white though, it does that make him more likely to bring the ball down and take a shot at the end of the game. We saw the the second third do game took maybe an ill advised shot as opposed to driving into the tin or getting the third game. Bad heating, set the man up coming up that screen, but we never create trade Jones right over the screen. Yeah. I just think this look I think that Bruce Pearl's done in amazing job with this group and if Harper can make shots, okay, fine. But I think I think Carolina's best team in the country. Scree so Carolina moving on Houston in Kentucky. Kentucky plays like Kentucky play the other day. They're not winning that game. What can't scoring? Is the way they did against Cincinnati in the championship game of the American. They were they were not the Houston that we've seen pretty much every game. Yes here. Here looked terrible to say about about Kentucky. And this shocked me I thought Wofford got better shots in Kentucky. God. Yeah. And that should not happen like that cannot happen. Because eventually you got to be able to throw that basketball inside. Or you gotta be able to do something that they were not able to do that. Houston will guard you Houston. We'll stay in front. Huston his tough Houston. We'll get the ball down the floor. I like Kentucky in this game. But I only reason I like Kentucky in this game is because I I you and I were in the Bahamas and we liked Kentucky from the get-go. So you might as well stay with it. But man, oh, man. Houston's really good. I look I think you should really good and well coached they compete. They got an edgier this team Ramaz move, Calvin Samson's, Oklahoma. Yeah. Little bit under-sized good guard play Brooks is very good and tough shot maker. You know, you just look across the board cord Davis, Scott can create a little separate all that stuff. Sounds great. I think document I'm a little bit on the other side without PJ Washington. All right, re Travis got some touches he scored a little bit. I thought the fence Li they showed greater toughness 'cause I didn't. I thought they'd melt on some of that action on Fletcher McGee. I think that they get PJ Washington back which now of said Natalie can score and a block he can play on high. You announcing they got him back or what you say. I'm saying my gut feeling is he will make an appearance in the game next week. That means couches text you now. No, no, no. I haven't thought about that. Yeah. I don't buy talks about other people. So I think that I think he comes back, and I think now I just think that this is a game Kentucky. It's it's gonna be a grinded out game. I think that they're good in grinding out games. Coward almost rather play grinded out game. And I think they figure out a way to win. I think I think Houston get stuck offensively to know. We're gonna take a quick break here on courtside before we do though. Let's tell you. About harry's. Look at how scruffy I am right now, we're on ESPN. Plus, so I'm on camera. I probably should have shaved. But I don't like it. It's uncomfortable. But that's because I don't use Harry's. And I've got to start doing that. Because it's going to give you more comfortable shave in a cleaner shave. And I'll feel better about it. Go to harrys dot com forward slash court site. 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Let's talk about number one to boy. I mean, it seems like so many champions have had that one game that you you. It's improbable that you're going to advance you're gonna lose. But you find a way to win it. Whether it's ties, and then you can go down the list and find a bunch of teams that have done that, you know, Jim Valvano did it when he was with NC states should have lost Pepperdine go down the list. Maybe that was the game for Duke that they should've lost. But they wanna now maybe their team of destiny squared. I think they're the best team. Like, I okay. There's a formula for beating them except you didn't beat them. I mean, I know tip in they do make place. Yeah. You know, what I know that there was a hook and hold. It wasn't called. I know that you missed a tip. Okay. But you missed and guess what Duke is still there. I think Virginia Tech who I really really like can beat Duke first of even with nine they beat doing without Zayn. I think they can I think one of the things that they're going to have to do. And I don't know anything about Virginia Tech other than having done a couple of games of theirs. And I love this. I'm on hill kin. I think he needs to decide are or somebody needs to decide I'm going to stay in front of our j Barrett now, that's not ease. But I watched that kid he'll get new stance right in front of me for two games. He's big str- not tall. But he's strong. Just keep them in front one guy. And I said on his left hand, that's it. And then you play all the help. And you do all the things you gotta do Zion. And all that I think this team that can beat them. But to beat him they're going to have to have hill. And I think they're going to have to have black. Sure have a big game where he bails him out. Maybe with a rebound inside or something where you throw it inside to him because I think he's good enough to do that this twelve three game. They gotta make twelve threes, really J. But here here's the deal. Virginia tech. They played just Robertson adjusted Robinson you look at their points per game. I think I have it here somewhere because I have eight thousand piece of paper, they average ten more points again just ramps on the court. They should ten percent. Can I stop you ask you because I watch a game? The just Robinson try to do too much. I didn't I was jumping between he might if. Yeah, I'm sure he can. But where he packs game. I think defensively and leadership and he does getting lady gets guys easier shots, and I know what's going to happen. But just a Robinson is designed Williamson virgin tech a lot of ways when they're playing at the very best. The problem is last time when Zainuddin play they played Jack white and they played Alex O'Connell those twos dues didn't even get an a game yesterday. Oh, that's a good trade. I mean, that's a good trait. And now of sudden dukes defenses better they're getting more, easy baskets. They're getting more pain touches the challenge for ducal be defensive discipline because Jin tech run some good tricky stuff. And when they were netra stuff, you don't communicate and you're gonna end up with an extra pass wide. Open three that's going to be the issue. And then they can they could potentially get sign. A Faucher was because of Duke go small at all like they did yesterday for period of time black shirt and get you Faucher because he's got those steppers unders that's what I'm saying. Now, the one thing are you gonna play if you're Duke, you just watch the team playoff everybody. You got gold wire in there. You can't shoot. I know you're gonna play gold. Why are you going to give Alex O'Connell or you're gonna give Jack white a shot? Jack, white is no macadear say what I want is back. It. I'm not putting him in Serb. Elliot's the x factor for like he works. Factored anyone over twenty eight and then went to Serbia they went to the factor and then Connell. Connell. You put him in. I would I'm not in practice with them every day. Because obviously something about Al show Connell that irks the Duke staff in that he doesn't get like it's not like he's in the rotation and he stays in rotation. And we'll get a live with what he does with this poorly. They situationally play him. But that's why I'm saying game. But yes, he didn't play yesterday. I know and like that was the situation. Just put that dude. Water and say trae drive at the big fella throw it to you. If they play and just have him bang a couple of threes. Maybe coach K learn I think you gotta you cannot if it's going bad for Duke. Let's say it's going bad, whatever and you playing off and you're doing all the same things with black. I think you gotta give it a swing. Right. You gotta now I agree to wanting to bothers me out. They were wondering is this is gonna make you Leggate only one thing that bothers this guy. This. This is going to make you laugh. Like at the end of the game. You know, coach Cates had to his team. Yeah. I believe in you guys. You know, we're gonna win this game. And yeah, this is what you made for us. What he told you what you made for? All. Right. And then you know in in the other game the Louisville game, you know, down nineteen in. We're gonna win this game. How come when I said that? I said the same stuff me is that, Dan. Tell you what we're going to witness game at half time in a MAC championship against Kent state of positive already to go with this is what we've worked for you. Antonio gates. Man, just to say you can't go in there and say guys, I don't think we can win this game. I mean, just come. I do I headset on and YouTube don't because I have my earpiece on jeeze. First of all that is a surprise have. Everything's in pretty good shape today. I know I got my private. Is look might be. A little bit on the side. Happy stick it up. Let's go talk about the fought him of this east and Tom Izzo was the coach of the year in college basketball for what he's been able to do with this team getting him this we'd sixteen now if he gets the final four you clearly will be, but this is Tom Izzo now going against an interim coach at LSU and those kids to their credit they played very well with all the distractions off the court they've played great yet here at some point. You got to forget about the coach and talk about the kids, and we'll Wade's at home, and that's fine. But man, oh, man. I'll tell you what the shot you were talking about maybe on our other podcasts the angle that waters hits the shot to meet Maryland, and the toughness that they've shown through because this is what I've said I went through this when I was interim coach, Indiana, it's not just the coach being suspended. What happens is people are being brought in to talk to the AD there. There's there's investigations going on, and you feel as a staff, and you feel as a as a team that you're on an island by yourself and the truth of the matter is really it's only worked out one time. And that's Steve Fisher and people always point to that. But most times it goes, by the way of Arizona last year or us in. A or go keep comedy, Indiana. But the only ones I know peppers allies night. Yeah. You just get your brains beat out so good for this team. But I do think I do think beating miss Minnesota by twenty points a team that knows you team is physically tough, not know is probably playing the best that they've played Elliot's shows it is team is really good. And I must say this, and you can expound on this the two inside guys goings and Tillman have really grown up. Yeah. And worn adds that. But those guys took their defense to another level entire equate. Yeah. Man mcquaid is. I mean like he did not play while against Kansas in champions class. You just didn't. And they finally got him to relax and be and believe it himself and trust himself and all that jazz, which I think is great caches at different level. And and a great graving Cassis he can be bad for ten minutes. But at the end of game, I mean, he's three and against Michigan. Because the end of the game they're down. He says all right here, we go. And like if you do that game and you one hundred percent, right. You said right now caches confused HAMAs on it pretty hard. But you said you said, you know, what I've seen this before he'll figure out a way, and he'll get it turned around caches Winston turn stuff around. But the combination of goings until men the -fensive only so good and so connected. And so good and ball screens. They're gonna have to rebound a ball. I mean, let let's say they're gonna have to rebound the ball a caches. Can't spit it away. They do those two things they win game. I think that their speed game that transition game when they get stops factor because I'm not sure that nozzle gnaws read will run the floor with goings and tell them dudes Rodman change his, but they're playing with house money. The one thing you cannot do. I don't think he lay for your radio show. My daughter's calling me she doesn't understand. We're doing the world granted podcast. The one thing you can't do if you're LSU is be surprised at how hard Michigan state runs to start the gay run. They do and that can shock you little bit. 'cause you see it on film and everybody on film looks like they're running. And then you get in there and everybody on real life looks like they're sprinting, and there's a big difference. And you got a match you gotta come right out and match that because Michigan state is a little bit like this Michigan state, smells blood, and when they know that they can get by. You'll see a guy run the millet a court. I'm telling you Nick war before he got hurt was running like running crazy purse. Yeah. He was he was fantastic to watch. And so, but I think that's an and the rebounding aspect because LSU's going to go to the back rebound you both like Michigan state to beat LSU in. What should be pretty good game? I do let's move down to the west Kazak and Florida state. I mean, Ray came it's going to be on believable, Leonard Hamilton is the anti. You know, when you talk about a guy that looks like he was forty years old forever today. Like today, he looks like he's still forty is like the anti willy Nelson. Willy Nelson was like he was seventy when it was forty Leonard Hamilton looks like he's forty now that he's like the demographics of our listeners. Thank you can appreciate great perspective on it too. When you had our greatest, it's it's incredible. But more than that. I mean, that's all well and good. But when I watch this is what I watch. When I watched Florida state most times you watch ball pressure. Sal man in putting pressure on about what I watch is lane line pressure. I watch passing lane pressure. And when they get out in passing lanes, Chris they are special. I mean, they'll deflect the ball out of bounds. L come up with a steel, but even more than that when you watch offense ran against Florida state offense against Florida state is not ran at the three point line offense against Florida state is ran halfway between the the half court line and the three point line. And when they're doing that may are they tough to be you can't get to the rim because you have to drive it from so far now, Gonzaga zion's got a lot of guys man got a lot of guys a lot of experience. I love sack nor Val Perkins is up and down Clark's catered this. Yeah. Clark. Yeah. Talk about Clark. And here's the other thing. I don't have it in front of me. I don't know how many threes Hashi Murray has hit this year or not hit this year. But I know this and always go history last year against Hieaux state to get them in the Sweet Sixteen. I don't think it hit a three all your hits three of them. So he's a big time guy in big time. Moment's gonna be tough game. Yes. But the last time they played in the answer by tournament which was last year. Florida state beat him by about sixty beat him bad and the difference. I think for this year is Brian Clark estate. Didn't have a guy like burn o'clock last year enough of a difference than get them through this game's going to come to one thing that it was talking about the defense. Can they speed up? Josh Perkins Kansas Perkins, which you can do get out of sync. Josh Perkins out of sync. Then all of a sudden Gonzaga's not the same team. And they're going to remote. We'll guys one thing. I was interesting watching the game against John rant is that they ran five different guys at John rant in the first eleven minutes of the game. And when job gave it up their game plan was terrific because they didn't let him. Get it back. So they set right. We're taking him out you for guys make a play. So what did force job to keep it a little longer trying to get to the rim. And then they voted by. We're gonna meet you at the rim with a bunch of seven foot dudes that I can swat bang and they slice. So they're defensive game Blanda just to their personnel. They're gonna know it. We got we got to speed up Josh Perkins. He has to be good. He's got to be the Josh Perkins that played against Duke. He can't be Josh Perkins that played against Saint Mary's in WC championship quickly. Who do you like then? Florida state I picked Gonzaga name in my sheep might be famous sheet after watching Florida state this weekend, I'm leaning towards Florida state. Okay. Finally, Texas Tech Michigan. This the bottom of the west was invoked for people to say buffalo for people say Nevada. I certainly was you saw Michigan coming in off that big ten tournament. Whoever. Listen to me more in Nevada. You said were getting undefeated. Handle do. I love more. I love Texas Tech. I love Michigan. We have a difference for pity. I you love Michigan more now than you didn't even week ago. You do. Yeah. I do I like the way they're playing. I I like to coach what's that coach? Oh, gosh. Is he tournament? I like here's what I like about Michigan. I think Michigan's getting out and running a little bit. I think Michigan who can get stuck offensively. We all know this that we have seen them get stuck offense. And you certainly can get stuck offense leaves Texas against Texas Tech. I like the fact that Michigan's driving a basketball little bit. And if Michigan's going to win they need a big game, Jordan piling, Jordan polls great. He's he's been a little frustrated with Jordan pool shots election that type of thing I like Michigan. Look it. I I don't see Texas Tech Linton Xavier Simpson and Charles Mathews getting fitter right hand. I think the improvement of Texas Tech offensively is incredible great like you look at to Rico ones like he can score. Now, you look at Moretti. I mean every time she thinks going in you look at Mooney so much more comfortable in running an offense and picking his spots. I just think Texas Tech is really special, and I think they're gonna forego. I think I think they ought to. But I'm just glad you're picking Michigan. Right. Big ten Homer. Here seems like you guys the west region is the most wide open as far as it could go any way they cuts for I think all four those teams are fun of orbit yet. So that's gonna be fun to watch. That's the first game of the entire weekend, by the way, Thursday, just Thursday. I go first game. That's big time game big time big time game almost as big time is our podcast. Be back with more after this. But I gotta tell you don't settle for waiting in lines. When you need tickets of all of the things I dislike in the list is long long. Just go on. You too. I'm impatient. Yeah. You're right. Exactly. Right. I do not like waiting in line for tickets, doc, and so I can just easily go onto vivid seats and get my tickets. Well, I didn't have to worry about waiting. That will be the biggest thing for me. Vivid seats, you can see your seats before you buy them, which is huge to me because I like sitting in their back by one hundred percent buyer guarantee, you may have to find another way to spend your time besides waiting in line, but you'll be closer to the action Seth and you've ever been before heading over to vivid seats, the largest independent ticket marketplace around and spend less time in the waiting room mean we've all been into waiting room. We don't wanna be in waiter. I mean like I want to get to the headline. I want to get the best seats. I want to be able to get in the seat in Georgia's show and do whatever need to do. That's why you have to go to vivid seats, don't buy just any seat get a vivid seat back with courtside. Let's talk about the elite eight and really ultimately the final four as you look at these brackets, we kind of touched on with the west, and let's just start there is as wide open as anybody can as you can get. I mean, all four of these teams could get to the final four. You look at it said pick, which one of these teams, you think is most likely to get there to Minneapolis of those four teams, I have Texas Tech. And I'm sick with that stack. I just think they're improvement offensively. I think their toughness, I think they have enough that I I'm I'm going with the raiders, I don't do the next. I plus I mean, it gives us one more episode of court cyber coach beard fires the fireside chats. Yeah. Stuff. Really? He introduced to the world last week, nothing better farside. What are you gonna get a fireside chat at of coach beard or no you want to be on the fire such? How do you even know? But you talk host. I don't wanna know. Now. Special. Here's what I got Florida state beating zag Michigan beating Texas Tech. But I got in the final four. Choice. I look at this is the best team. I agree. So I'm gonna take Florida state because I got him beaten zag. But but truthfully you said early I wouldn't surprise me. If any of these four teams came out you haven't made a pit base. Yeah. I'll go Florida state because lawfully if you ask them rant, he waffles. Here's a man that has an opinion and sticks to very rare for you to offer. May I change it again? All three narrow upset every fan base or you like make every fan base. Never making them has. Picking they ought to get upset with you. Let's talk about the east because this could be battle a heavy wings in the elite eight with Duke and Michigan state I got to. But I can't I. Giving me a headache. But I'm gonna take do because my finals, Duke and North Carolina. I think Michigan state. Is playing great connected defensively. But until somebody beats Duke was I on I'm buying it nine. Oh, you know. I know they expose in raw gonna talk. We've talked all week or we will talk a blue. Okay. Then go paid them until further notice. I'm taking beat him. But they didn't. They didn't beat them. Right. That's what I'm saying. I'm going with do. But I think that Michigan state Duke with the depth for their front court. Those three guys with Hillman and goings being really good defenders and Tom's not gonna guard some dudes, and he'll have some stuff. And the reason I'm going to do. I just worry about ports of Turner's. I don't think it's a great matchup for do. I don't either it's saying you can stay. I mean can rebound defend the paint and they can spend individuals and stance, and they they're gonna score easy baskets, and it really doesn't put defensive pressure on caches Winston trae Jones doesn't put all kinds of pressure on cash hassle backtra bungle back. Adam again, that's. So I don't know. No. I'm talking about trade. I'm talking about caches guarding trades. So yeah. Yeah. Hundred doesn't put pressure on him. Like, you know, some of the teas. Let's talk about the south both do you guys like for gene and move on. But then there was a little bit of. A little bit of especially at this all on cat all in on. I'm all in on the Cavs resemble in on the Cavs is because every says the style of play can't win it. They lost three ACC games less two years. Why? So who says the style of play can't win by gurus goose? I don't wanna hear gerbers. I want to hear it like if you it's good enough to win the ACC like every year and being the more seed, and they only lost good all year, by the way, three four fire unless they were down at half in the first round. So that's a big red flag. People might backside. I'm taking UVA I've been down on them not down on them. I haven't been as high as everybody all year. We'll say this so produce got some guys that can make shots on that site against at that attack. And they've played against pack line at hun. Thing is what's the kid? I can't think of his name right now for Virginia comes off the bench. She's a shooter talk six eleven kid CAL's. Huff thing hops, going have to make some shots out knocking out some he's going to have to make some in the game. This to get them to the probably get a rebound. That's Jack Salz jobs. Not hops job. No your role screen fact, the greatest over Virginia as a as a podcast Virginia moving on the south midwest, more, blue bloods, North Carolina and Kentucky, I got North Carolina. Just because I think they're the best team playing right now. I think North Carolina up and down the court. I think they're going to score it a lot easier than Kentucky's going to score it. I think Kentucky they wanna grinded out game. But it ain't going to happen in this one. Because as you said earlier Seth nobody gets it down the floor faster. Nobody has more shot makers. And then you know, what Kentucky as I said. They will be a good game or any beat them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they beat him. Good. But nobody's playing better. Right. Now. Hell Michigan beat UNC by twenty four. And when I watch Michigan play UNC at the boy this year for Michigan's going or this year for North Carolina's going be interesting. I'm better, but here's their Carolina beat Gonzaga when they were beaten, Duke. And then the next game Kentucky fine. I'm just saying how they're playing mass try to create, you know, scenario. Watches, chris. Can you have winning? Oh, you do. I thought you're going North Carolina. Want to go back to Paris. I have Kentucky winning FPJ place. If he does your thing is PJ plays. He's the PJ of all I think PJ can run run with with Luke. I think that that gives come down to connection hagan's keep Kobe white in front. Here's his thing. You gotta understand about casts and boots. That's normal now for kids to get put in a boat or a cast like I'm marched precautionary. Yeah. Used to be that a guy would have it wrapped up. Come in for is. Now, they just put it in a saw heart cat, soft casts or a boot. And you know, he missed a weekend. Which means he's going to be ready to go and he'll play. He'll be really good. You'll be good. But North Carolina. I like Carolina. You like Kentucky Kentucky. So that one's kind of don't me being, you know, I love you had Donut. To the for the adding I mean, like enough just grow up, someone can have a different opinion. I know we'll have several more podcasts before the end based on the sixteen that we have remaining who who wins it. All right now, I'm gonna pick Duke is that's why pick I'm not one of those waffle guys that we have pick you in see because that's who I picked and I'm not one of those waffle. I love it. 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"Hi. Welcome to Celtic stuff live on the ceiling SV network, the leading online provider of audio and video coverage for the Boston Celtics John and Justin here. We're going to have a show that is yet three weeks away from training camp. I guess the 30th was lost like two and a half weeks. Yeah. Yeah. Thank goodness. Thank goodness. And by the way, for whoever, I can't remember who runs the basketball fantasy league that I do every year, but I know they're fans of Celtic stuff live. Everybody's asking me when the fantasy draft is going to be again. But I have no idea. I don't run the league. And I'm in, if you guys are in. So just let me now I'll do it. Two and a half weeks bro finally. We get to see this roster still wheeling and dealing since our last call. Hold on. I got to tell you. I've always liked the earning Gomez boys. Not necessarily, I think this is the big needle mover. But the one thing that you said was, the roster's not balancing need a power forward who can stretch it a little bit. Who can switch and situationally off the bench behind Jayson Tatum? You got your man. And I do think this roster construction is about as balance as we've seen in years. Honestly. When you look at just the guards to the wings, the forwards, with a couple of centers, you've got players that do different things that other players don't. So, you know, they're gonna have lots of tricks in their bag that way. We're not relying on grant Williams, but maybe he's a better player than they're giving him credit for. We'll certainly find out because they'll be able to put them with a better mix of better blend. And in the end, I think, you know, that might smooth out a lot of the bombs. You already got two all stars. You know, you've got some major free agent pickups. So I was happy about it. I didn't really see a slot for Chris dun, and you know what I think about Carson Edwards. Nice guy, rips it up in the summer league. Maybe a couple of inspirational performances here and there, you know, and the team is down, but there was a log jam, there's log jam at guard, and now this roster, I would say it's pretty fully constructed. And certainly not any worse than last year. I mean, I don't know if they're top end. This is as high as last year's team could have been. But because. That's assuming a healthy Kemba, and even then, I'm not even sure that's the case, right? I think there's a fair case to be made that they are. They're better because they're better rounded as a roster, you know? From one to one to 15, I think they're better. They have more players you can count on, more players you know going into it exactly what they're going to provide. And you're right. One show allows you to do a lot of things that you couldn't do last year and he's allowed you to go arguably a little smaller and have a 6 9 power forward who who's calling cards should be to shoot the ball pretty well. I just, as a, for instance, though, his first year in the league he shot 40% from three. His second year in the league, he shot 28%. His third year he shot 36%. The year before that, he shot 34% and then last year he shot 32%. So what that means, you got me, but I mean, it shows that he can shoot the ball well. You know, I don't know why it hasn't been consistent or what's happened there, but in any event, we started an Adam Sandler movie, which is pretty cool, I guess. Apart from that. I really don't know what to expect other than the idea of what he should be able to provide and arguably I think that in the best of all worlds, we're all hoping that he's playing very little and grant Williams as established himself as the team's preeminent power forward. But I don't have a whole lot of faith in that. I think what's nice about him about guac show is that, you know, I don't think he's far and away had beaten out grant Williams, or javari Parker. I think it's an open competition. And that's what's kind of exciting about this training camp coming up here in a few weeks. There's a lot of spots still open to be debated while there's some veterans there. And I think we rely on those guys. It's an option that Brad Stevens didn't have the last two years, but especially last year. But there's been a lot of debate, a lot of battles. I think going on, you know, but with all these rookies and second year and third year guys, they're all going to be having a battle for minutes. And they have a potential to kick some of these veterans, we think will do a lot more a little bit further down the rotation. And but I'm glad that with wancho. And Schroeder and Richardson and you know, you have an opportunity now for, you know, and Horford. You know, these rookies are young players aren't being forced to be putting those positions. They can take an apprentice when they're not showing themselves to be what their potential is. And then they can also step up and take those spots, perhaps when they're ready for that opportunity. Yeah, again, more competition with guys that aren't I mean, none of them are going to separate themselves necessarily, right? Somebody's probably going to get the bulk of the minutes. But nobody's going to be like, oh, this is the guy that has totally separated himself above the rest of the pack. And maybe that happens maybe, but it's pretty unlikely. Jabari Parker would have to all of a sudden resemble the first round pick level that he was or the first, you know. He would say lottery pick. Like he's got a big high. So, you know, but that kind of potential. And sure, maybe then he would. You know, grant Williams winds up being that defensive statistical stalwart that he was against Toronto and that some of the advanced analytics that everybody has been sharing the last couple of weeks. Might say that he could be. The truth is, players of this level are going to have ups and downs with the kinds of careers that they've had to date. And the great thing is that they're going to be able to just try their hand at whichever one is fitting the line up or having the right level of confidence doing what they need to be doing. And, you know, even when they get into training camp, it's not the jabari it's probably the only one that might get cut, maybe, and I'm not sure anybody gets cut at this point. I think they like having that salary because I still think they want to make a trade move without giving up a market Sparta Jayson Tatum or a jaylen Brown. And so I don't see them shutting the salad. They seem to be right on point with where they wanted to be. You know, related to the cap. Yeah, no, I think you're right. I think everything's around very much around the edges at this point, which is partly why you wouldn't perhaps spend more draft capital to go out there and get somebody better than I want her to know as, but okay. I think this is the type of the exact type of movie you make. Somebody who's done something in the league, but you're not going to get a whole lot for someone. When they're not, you know, a name, they're not. You're not going to go up, you know, the draft capital, it took to say the getter Larry enhanced junior, like Portland did. You know, you're going to have to do some things that are probably more around the edges and really, you know, you really didn't have to give up much at all to shed Chris Dunn and Carson Edwards and swap a second round pick, you know, I think 2026. You've got that. And then they did sign a couple training camp guys Luke cornettes coming back and exhibit ten deal, which sounds like should we play in Maine? Which is kind of like what they've done recently with a number of guys Chris bab and a few others. They decided these deals, which basically says, yeah, you're probably not gonna make the roster, and we'll send you right to Maine. So that's kind of but somebody like cornette substantiates trade rumor potential that they are trying to package salaries. Yeah, a guy who was on the roster last year. 7 footer, they liked the fact that he could defend the pick and roll if they make a trade where they package all of these salaries to go get another high level player. They're gonna need depth rotation guys. Oh, sure. Yeah. And so, you know, somebody like cornette, who came in last year and they liked him better than Moe Wagner in terms of depth and potential. You got to think that he probably and not saying definitely, but he probably could have gotten an invite that wasn't an exhibit ten to a camp somewhere. He was right on the line. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if there were many options for him, but be right, possibly. You know, but it makes sense for them to try to get somebody like that back where they feel like they can trust him. He's already gotten some experience in, you know, the system, which it's going to change a little bit, obviously, got a new coach. But then keeping him in that system. They liked enough of what they saw. I think that they're definitely, you know, considerate of where can we stash some depth where we would be able to bring them in end of the bench. So who's the other? Who's the other floater guy? Oh, juwan Morgan. But he's not definitely floating between Maine. Who was the first guy that they put on a on the two way? Don't they have one other thing? Yeah. Right, they got the house or on two ways. Right. So he's definitely. I mean, he's definitely playing at me. That's uncertainty. Right. And so we'll see what happens with him. I mean, he's certainly shot the lights out pretty pretty well there towards the end of summer league. And I think, you know, he's gonna get a lot of minutes, you know, he's gonna see most of his minutes in Maine. Certainly. But, you know, it sounds like you send cornet to Maine and you know, Bobby Manning mentioned this in his post on Celtics blog, but he interviewed cornette's sister. And Nicole. And she was saying, you know, basically how that, you know, his dad kind of regretted not pushing harder to stay in the league. And I feel like this is kind of like that move. You could have gone overseas and could have made more money, but it put him a little bit further away from being able to realize back in the NBA. And it sounds like, you know, when you're in a situation like this, and of course, when his dad played, they didn't have a G league or D league, but now you look at where you're at now. It's probably a good spot because you're right. If there is a consolidated trade that's made, these rates step right in and fill in as a veteran minimum guy. And that seems like a pretty good move for somebody like that. And we have to move, you know, 90 minutes down the highway. That's pretty sweet. I'd say. And when you make a consolidation trade too, what's the other thing you need? Shooting, 'cause you know you're not gonna go out and get a ball handler. You need somebody who can spot up in the corner while the other guys are getting garnering all that attention, you know, and coronet could shoot from the outside. So he gives them a little bit of that. And then you have Hauser who is three point specialist, right? So there's somebody else that you can just trust to be in the corner ready for the kick out and knock down the open shot because the defenses are paying attention to three potentially four other guys on the floor that are going to do some serious damage. So I think there are signs here. I'm not saying that they definitely have a trade in the works. I'm just saying, it seems like they're building with that in mind for sure in a lot of ways. I'm a little more dubious that anything really is going to happen this year that they're building towards it. But I think that there's it's just I think it's solid team building stuff. And it kind of backs up what we've seen over the last few years of what it takes effectively to build a strong team. And you look, you look at Milwaukee, you know, a lot of the guys are there's a lot of one dimensional players on that Milwaukee Bucks team last year. And, you know, the one skill that seemed to have was shooting. They're ready to defenders, or they were shooters. And I think that that's a good sort of piece to recall in that you can never have enough of that. And I think they, unfortunately, in the middle tier of this bench of this rotation, they don't have a lot of it. So you might as well on the periphery and who knows you may strike gold as Miami did with Duncan Robinson. Maybe Sam Hauser is a nice next Duncan Robinson. That would be pretty nice. That would be a nice fine for the summer. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. All right, so we'll be plenty to talk about because we're going to have to dive into roster construction and everything else for several weeks of training camp because we're many weeks away from the opening night of the season. So media day, two and a half weeks away, then we get some training camp, then we got a week of what the hell do we talk about? Please will opening night come on, come on, come on. And then we're in it. So in the meantime, lots of things going for former Celtics, loving, loving Paul Pierce, and no apologies for getting fired from ESPN coming from the hat man. And then the Photoshop of Kevin that Kevin Garnett put of ray, I mean, rondo. And Harrison him, taking Rey out of the picture and his misaligned tan suit. Come on, ray, what were you thinking? Like, you didn't want to be the outsider. You're the only guy who wore the tan suit. You literally, even he's standing outside of the three of them in the picture. It was easy to crop them out. It's hilarious. So, anyway, loved your poor gas on that one as much as I can. But well, it just since you went there. Gary washed from wrote about this about how it's time for Garnett basically to give it up. I thought you'd bite on that. That's where I wanted you to take it. I saw this thing about it. So I was hoping you would take debate. He's got a good, like, why is this Kevin Garnett's problem? I'm sorry. I mean, I get that that's where kind of the posse of that team is around and garnet needs to. It's like the oldest sibling always gets blamed for everything. There's the strongest in the old you know, I'm not saying he's the oldest, but it's the same concept. You know, I was the oldest child, so everything's my fault. And that's just the way it goes. He's the strongest, most charismatic of that group. And so he gets blamed and that's what it is. But you know what? How about this? How about we go out there and we actually decide to I don't know, how about both guys have to earn some of this? I mean, why do we have to always every time I read this about, well, KG got this? How about ray? Why is everyone always letting ray ha and off the hook on this one? He is just as stubborn and is pig headed about this as Kevin has anybody. It's just he doesn't act as outwardly like that, and he picks up and whenever someone wants a quote, he answers. That's the problem. It annoys me to no end because I get it. And I agree, it should be over. They should find a way to work towards it. But it takes two sides. I don't think it has to be over. I love it. Well, I love it. I agree on the outside. I want to see this. I want to see them all together. I do want to see that. I want to see it end. I want to see them put by guns be bygones. But there's no way in hell that should happen without accepting some level of responsibility. And he won't do it. And he won't accept any. I mean like the part where he did return anybody's phone calls and went to the enemy right after they lost her. Right? Come on. Right? That's why I love it, dude. Just keep responsibility. It's like we've got a 5 year old edited him out of all of my championship memories. Like KG, you cropped him out. Yeah. Get out of it. He's been cropped out of my memories of all of that. I remember Brian scalabrine more than I remember Ray Allen. Well, you know, he had that famous, yeah, exactly. PJ Brown. I remember him more than I remember way out. Leon Powell. But look, no, seriously. I mean, it's, yeah, it is time to be over. I think it would be great to be able to put a bygones be bygones. Ray's got a raise we need the people who are writing about this to put some responsibility on right. And nobody will never happen. Nobody will do it. They want to say well we're fans and we're bitter and all that. Yeah, I'm bitter and you know, you can hear that what we're talking about here. But bottom line? He's not a fan. No, no, no, but I'm saying on the outside. I get what you're saying, a 100%. I follow you. I'm just saying, it's not up to us. Even though the fans don't want it, KG's not cagey didn't shut him out because the fans are better. No. That's what I'm saying. It's got nothing to do with the fans. But I think it's got nothing to do with us. As Paul said, I think in the article he Chris Vance wrote about the profile about his entering the Hall of Fame. You know, he thinks it's that KGs EKG softening. Rondo on the other hand, not so much. But if KG goes, Ronda will follow. I have a 100% convinced of that. You know what would be awesome? Rumors about that. To be awesome. What would be awesome? If they go to this party and then Avery Bradley shuttles himself is great. The raw dough is easy. I'm even badly. I got raised spot. You can wear a tan suit. If he were a kid, that would be even better. And then they crop him in. You know, his shoulders get close. They're all savory, Bradley, rocketed. Oh my gosh. Awesome, dude. Hey, hey. Goodbye. All right. Well, let's do respect to the truth. It's that time of the year again and all eyes are now turning to football as teams are back on the gridiron to start the football season. As a matter of fact, Tampa Bay is playing Dallas as we speak and record this, as always, bet online is your number one spot for all the pro and college football action this season. 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We're keeping it NFL 100 at this point. Anyway. Paul Pierce, man. The truth, the Hall of Famer. The week. Big week for the Celtics. Big week for the Celtics. Paul's going in. Bill Russell going in a second time. Mike Gorman going into the Hall of Fame. Big bleak for the Boston Celtics. Yeah. Big freaking week, man. Big week. That's awesome. That's awesome. It is. The only thing that would make it a little bit more awesome is if pierce did finish his career, I'm glad things went the way they did because we got some pretty good players around here now. But don't tell me you don't wish that Paul played every single season agree. Because I know you did. No, I do. I do. I do wish that. But I also know that if we didn't have if that trade doesn't happen, we don't have this damn and jaylen Brown and it's easy not to be sour about it. Yes. Absolutely. It was the right thing to do. But boy, it would, I mean, sentimental sentimentality wise. This would be so much sweeter if he never played, especially if he never played for the Nats. Let alone Washington, but that's for nothing team, though. Before. Until the last 12 months. Yeah, even coming back. He didn't come back to bite us like ray did. See how he did that? But I don't think that Paul, you know, Paul's absence, you know, we were down and out of it. Whatever happened in Brooklyn was kind of a unconquerable, the stuff in Washington that he did. It was good for what it was. But you know, we were out of it. He was doing something else somewhere. It kind of gave you a rooting interest while the Celtics were so bad in the interim period in 13 and 14 and 15. And then obviously we came back up pretty quickly. I mean, think about it this way. If you don't do that, and Paul finishes his career here. You don't have those nets picks. You know, KG, let's say KG finishes his career here too. You're probably hitting bottom. Last year, two years ago, you know, 1819 20 somewhere in there. You know, maybe you got a shot at Lucca. You know, I don't know, but you're 8 years past that trade now, right? We're 8 years past that trade. And we are, I don't know that we're knocking on the door of championship. But we're on the rise. We're. Exactly. Can you imagine not being starting that run now, you know? That much further away. That's tougher, you know? I mean, there's a lot that we've talked about how great it is to have young players and follow the rise of those players. But to have a couple three more years of Paul and KG declining that would have been tough to watch. It was tough. It would have been sad. Speaking of which this whole rumor about Paul Pierce getting traded in Cuban confirming it. And the thing is this, I believe, I believe that that conversation happened. I just think that that conversation likely happened the same year the nets trade happened. After Danny had a comment. If they had told me it was before 2008, and then I'm thinking the Chris Paul kind of a thing, a three way deal and whatever. Okay, maybe, you know, who knows? But it wasn't. They said, it's after 2008. So then I'm like, yeah, that's the conversation of we're breaking this band up and we're going to spin them all off. I guarantee you, Danny spoke to them and said, we're going to make a move. And that's when Paul had the conversation. Because there's no way that Paul had that conversation with Cuban and the team got that close while they still planned on having KG and rondo and Paul all in the same team. There's no way it happened in that timeline. That was a nets year conversation. And so Paul was probably, you know, almost a maverick, just the same as he was a Nat. Yeah. And I remember there were a lot of murmurs about around that time. O 6 O 7, I'm saying eval Paul trades and, you know, what's happening and who's going where? And. I don't think I think Cuban Scott is his time fixed up because I don't think it makes sense. I don't know why the sellers would have traded him. I mean, he wasn't on the downside. It didn't seem like he was not fitting in that there was a cultural issue. It feel like, I mean, Paul was probably at the zenith of his powers after the 2008 season. And maybe that's why you gauge, you know, Paul just Danny just gauging the market like you did with everybody all the time. But now this whole conversation and Paul started it was that there was a three way deal and it almost got done because the 13 fell out. I opted out because of a pack, which is makes you think it wasn't really that good of a deal if a pick wound up taking them out of it. But I guess it depends on what the 13 was getting back and it was the pick was going to Boston. That was what caused them to opt out of it. And why would they? So they wouldn't have cared if it went to the Mavs. They just didn't. Well, then it's a division rival. You would think. Or at least your conference, it could have been somebody, you know, if you think about who the teams would have mattered Orlando, not so much at that point, you're probably looking at Detroit, Cleveland. I mean, those Atlanta, that was kind of the core of the east at that point. Nobody really would have cared. I don't really see that there was a trade there that made sense. And frankly, the stuff with ray started to fall apart in that season in the next season. So the timeline doesn't really match up with everything we know about the 2018, everything we know about Danny. So I'm just going to excuse it as Cuban being Cuban. But, you know, I think Paul set this shit storm off. So I'm having a hard time just laying one detail at Cuban's feet. I don't even know what you mean. What do you mean by that? Well, Paul is the one that said that he almost got traded and then Cuban responded to that. Yeah, but I don't think Paul was indicating it was 2008. Cuban was like, oh. He just said no, so here's where here's where I think the reporting got loose on that. He didn't say it was 2008. He said it was after 2008. That doesn't mean it's true. Right after the 2008 season, that's why I'm predicating it on. That was when Danny went to these players and said, we gotta start over. We did what we could do. I'm trying to place you guys with winners. That's when Paul had the conversation with Cuban in my mind. Yeah. And that makes sense. That I get. And it would explain why they'd be pissed at Boston's getting a pack, right? Because that's what Boston was looking for was all these rebuilding pecks, right? Who knows that they're 13 could have been Brooklyn. We don't even know that originally, they were all going different directions and then Brooklyn said, you know what? We want them. Give them all to us. We'll give you every pick, you know? I doubt it. How far down that road do you think they went? How far down from 2008 could that conversation have happened? I think it was. That's what I'm saying. I think 2012 after that season. I mean, I don't think I don't think that that conversation happened related to Paul. Until they knew that KG wasn't going to get it done. You know? And I think even in Danny's mind, he was going to build that roster around rondo. And then, you know, because they had the pecks coming and everything else, but I think it became really clear that they weren't going to be able to build around rondo anymore either. So I just went back and kind of looked at some of the rosters that Dallas had. Like, who would be a fit? How would you have made that move? Grand butler was always a guy was, you know, pierce like, not as talented, not as good. Younger, right, exactly. And you know, the year after 2010, the Mavs with a championship. And remember, after 2010, after that finals, there was a lot of feeling like this is it. It's over, you know, you know, this whole thing's gonna blow up, you know, everyone's gonna go their own ways. But there was remember that pierce's quote was I'm your missing piece for Dirk. So I doubt it was oh. But pierce was quoted as part of the manic story. Cuban was asked independently not by man. Yeah, but let me tie that. Yeah, but let me tie this together. I do know that. But my point is is so if it was before the championship then you really talk at O 9, which was way too early, right? The one bad season with KG, they're gonna rehab him, why would Boston do that clearly not ready. It's more likely it was 12 because then you have one season removed from a championship in Cuban wants to be a winner and he wants one more. So he's like, and so pierce goes to Cuban and says I'm your missing piece, right? That one lot because he's knows it's over in Boston. Danny made it clear, made it clear to the players before he started shopping. Remember, Danny handled that really well. There were lots of stories not that they wanted to leave, not that they were happy about getting traded and breaking up, you know, the big three in Boston. With rondo being the number three, it wasn't like the players wanted that. But Danny approached them and said, the time has come, right? We're just you're not gonna be able to win it here. We're cash strapped. Everything else, you know, even the best thing for you guys is to move on. That doesn't mean that Danny is only dance partners and all those trades was a situation like Brooklyn when they were going to keep KG and Paul together with the salaries that they had. As a matter of fact, Brooklyn might have been the only option for him, right? In terms of salary cap space and everything else and then assets and picks. So it's quite likely that when Danny started the process, he was planning on shipping KG and Paul in different directions. And it wouldn't make it would make a lot of sense for Paul Pierce to try to control his destiny, reach out and make a case for landing in a spot with a team that was only one year removed from a championship. And I'm your missing piece. Let's run it back with Dirk one more time before it's over, man. I'm your boy. We'll go out there. We'll get it done. You've got some young guys coming up on the team. We can do this. That's the only that's the only time I've thought about this a ton. It's the only context that makes any sense to me for peers to do anything proactively as well. Yeah, I mean, well, I think that's fair. I think that you're right. I just think you wouldn't. You wouldn't say 2008 unless it was somewhat close. Now he said after 2000. I know, but like just after the championship last year. No, it is. Four years is a long time. No, no. 2008. No, listen, 2008 is the line in the sand on where the Celtics were at. Everything before 2008 was rebuilt. It was agreed. It would have made sense for them to want to trade Paul. As a matter of fact, they almost traded Paul for Paul before that. Those rumors have been substantiated and everything else. And so it makes sense that Cuban wouldn't nail down the year and would just put it in context of yes. This is after the championship, when these guys are together, not something we explored, you know, in the middle of the heart of his career and everything else before the Celtics made their moves. You know? Because 2008s the line in the sand, everything before. I agree with that. I agree with that. No, and I think that's the point of the story is that, you know, Paul was talking about really before they got KG and why it is as willingness to go elsewhere before that. That was the context of the story. And I think Paul, Cuban's response of saying, no, no, it's after. You know, and that makes sense to say, oh no, it's after that.

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REShow: Clark Kellogg. Hour 1 (03-29-19)

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REShow: Clark Kellogg. Hour 1 (03-29-19)

"Orig- is on demand. Your show your schedule. Fifteen minutes after ball dot com. Check out the casts at richeisenshow dot com. All right, everybody. Welcome this dish. And the rich Eisen show. We are live from the studios in Los Angeles, California on a Sweet Sixteen Friday. We've got ourselves a whole host of college basketball guests for you right here on the show. I eagle will be on the program. He's calling tonight's games in Kansas City, Missouri between North Carolina offered and Houston and Kentucky. What a double dip right there. LSU and Michigan state and Virginia Tech and Duke also play tonight, eight four four two four riches, the number to dial Clark Kellogg of CBS is going to be I up to talk about what we saw last night, and what we're going to see tonight. And and then Matt painter the head coach of the produce makers will join this program what a fantastic game classic overtime game between Purdue and Tennessee from this perch from the seat yesterday. I said that that game was going to be off the charts. Off the hook. And it certainly was all of that. I mean. What we saw last night between those two teams is why we watched March madness we watched to see team like Purdue seed in third the lower seed against a team like Tennessee which had a season that they had not enjoyed inqu- similar to ones that they had enjoyed in quite some time. Thirty one wins in here comes Purdue. And this kid Ryan Klein who I would prefer to say nobody outside of Purdue fans or the occasional big ten basketball watcher on the big ten network would know about this kid. I mean, the shot is well that he was taking they all went in. I mean every last one of them went in and he step back like hardened althouse. And and it's it's impossible to stop because he shoots it from over his head. You know, in a way looks like Larry Bird the way he kinda Cox back over his head and just would fling it sometimes it didn't have much of a rotation. It would kind of knuckle its way to the basket sometimes would have this beautiful rotation. But to quote, my old friend killer from sportscenter splash. Release rotation splash. And he had twenty two points in the second half. When produce getting blown out Tennessee came back from an eighteen point deficit. And by the way, you're welcome vol's fans. They can't they start. They came back to eighteen point deficit after I tweeted, my lamentation of taking Tennessee in the final four. Knowing that I would lament taking them to go to the final four, and they came all the way back and took the lead. But this kid Ryan Klein just kept throwing them in the it was his wide as the ocean last night. And then Carson Edwards. He's impossible to stop going to the basket. He could dish. He can break you down on the dribble. And then Klein would come around off of these screens. And then. Tennessee would just watch him throw him in. And then comes the end of the game in regulation. Are you of the mindset that that was a foul? I'm not you think that he was not fouled that. I think the Purdue player stuck his leg out. And that's what initiated the contact. I don't think that was a foul. You can't call that in that situation while the ref certainly did put the kid on a long for three may two and tied the game. And you know, Tennessee will have on there. As their epitaph for this game is just could not control stop in the three. I mean, just just give Purdue an inch. And they would take the full three point yard. And as soon as this game went to overtime. I'm like that said produce gonna win it, and they did and may were terrific and matte painters gonna join this program that kid Klein. I mean, the last time we saw performance like that was the big Ragu. I think in the finals last year for Villanova. Where guy just kind of came out of nowhere. And just shoot like that. And just not stopped on threes. And every single time it's up it's in. That's the last time. I saw something like that. And what a way to introduce yourself to the basketball watching public. And you have to think that Purdue has every chance to beat Virginia, which I think is still struggling to score to finally beat Oregon. They they got Pat. I mean Virginia how many times have they just looked dead in the water, but they're an elite eighteen doesn't matter survive in advance as they say this time of year, you have to think Purdue can win and also. You have to think Texas Tech and win this whole thing. I saw this my own two eyes people. And my eyes are still bleeding. I have never seen a smothering defense like the one that Texas Tech put on my alma mater, Michigan last night. I was getting texts from all my buddies in what what's happening over there. And I'm like their defense is incredible. They're switching defense their transition defense. They're straight up defense. There's owned defense maim the defense Texas Tech can play it and clamp it down name it and one after another coming off the bench. Michigan didn't know what to do. Their the wolverines achilles heel of not having a reliable consistent Goto scoring threat to just jar at one after another. It it it just absolutely destroyed him last night and kudos to Texas Tech. I can't believe what I saw last night. Get you were there. What was the vibe in the building the vibe in the building? Because you said no hold on time mission. We tell you this route let me tell you this big time machine crowd, and you couldn't get secondary ticket gone. Secondary market tickets reason, why is before Gonzaga and Florida state. There is a very large contingent from eastern Washington. They last night the fans were loud and proud and going nuts. That's number one. Number two, then may left and Texas Tech fill their seats really Lubbock was in the house last night. And they were all having a grand old time and Michigan couldn't make a shot. They couldn't get two shots together. When I talk about transition defense Michigan played tough defense Michigan's one of the top five defensive player ten country low scoring so we knew going to the game, you know, me and the my my group of. Powell's that. I went to the game with last night. We knew I fifty five is what we said would win. Then when it was six six at the ten minute, Mark. Yeah. Which like I afford he's gonna win this. And anytime there was a turnover Texas Tech had four guys back at one point. I did in fact count to see if there were six. That's how good they are. That's how good they all just seemed like they're playing against Michigan. His had problems scoring certainly of late and clamp down in a certain way on defense where you're switching to continue to keep the three point shot from killing you and make sure that you you you've got the back door closed as well for those cuts to the basket and Michigan's had problems, that's how Michigan state beat them. Not once twice but three times. And now here comes Texas Tech. I don't know how if that's the defense that they can put out there. They can win it all the absolutely can. Because their shots their shots began to fall, right? It's it's I mean it one point Michigan had sixteen points at half sixteen at the half. And then when the Texas Tech red raiders went on a ten to run to start the second half. Michigan was down by as many points as they had. I've never seen anything like that. In the second half of sixteen game at one point when it was when when Texas Tech had forty we were wondering if they didn't have to score another point to win the game. And I've never been to a game. Like that. This kid jerick Culver. He's pretty damn good to twenty two points last night. Texas Tech can win this thing. That's what happened last night. They just suck the energy out of the building. Michigan did not put points together like consecutive baskets to consecutive baskets together. And midway through the second half. I began to feel when was the last time I felt like a big game that Michigan was playing. Than total complete unmitigated disaster. Nightmare on folded to the shock and dismay and chagrin of Michigan fandom that had been thinking. This is the year. It's going to happen. When was the last time I felt that. And it was last November and final score of Texas Tech. Michigan Olmos match the final score of Ohio State Michigan with real close to the number really close. L looked in front of me to see if my buddy urban Meyer from the Super Bowl sitting there to turn around and tell me how bad it was tyrant is in told me more. But I am tip my cap to Texas Tech lookout, Gonzaga. Yeah. Which is which is a very solid team. And I know that that is the backhanded compliments, very solid, but they're they they can win it. But I just don't know if they have the ability to beat a I don't know, I shouldn't say this. They took care Florida state yet didn't last night. Yeah. And but seeing Texas Tech and person. You you better come with your shooting shoes on and you better shoot it from like thirty feet away. And hope you you better. Bring Ryan climb to the game. I'll tell you do cause problems, you know, shooting the three do that would be. They don't wanna see Texas Tech. I would wonder how they would be able to handle Zion. Because obviously Michigan isn't have somebody Zion singular talents. It right there. But got Virginia Tech tonight and the Michigan state LSU's tonight, Auburn North Carolina, Houston and Kentucky. What's the poll question over there? Chris eight four four two four riches, the number of great question, rich. We you don't have it. Talking about without a poll question at the moment. Are you serious? You just coming up zero. Okay. Well, there was no singular story. That's kind of like, you know, down Harper getting booed and day. One after second strikeout. Even though the Phillies one we call it. The dodgers hitting eight runs last night. The most of yesterday Elvis Andrew's going three for four the homeowner in two RBI's using a children's song is new walkup song walk off on. There's a lot going on today. Chris sale got rocked. You don't wanna have a poll question on Chris sale getting rock? How about Lorenzo Cain? With a defensive web gem on opening day to save the day for the Milwaukee Brewers against the Saint Louis cardinals. How about that? That is a walk off home run stealing moment by Lorenzo Cain. That were just showing right there that is the way to start opening day. Hey baseball at a very fat. Fun, fun, fun fun. An American opening day. So none of that. Okay. It's not okay. Oh my gosh. Here's what's going to happen. It's going to take a break. I'm gonna come back and talk to Clark Kellogg. Okay. I'm going to invite our rich Eisen show universe radio TV app. World audience, Fox Sports radio. Be our live dot com. World to call in eight four four zero four rich number to dial. Matt painter Purdue coach getting set to take on Virginia. Purdue could go to the final four when this damn thing to any of these teams left. I think this is very exciting here. And I do not know what the hell hit Michigan last night and here my day yesterday. And how that all went after you last Saami before this morning. You're in such a great move when you left wasn't a great mood, and then the only Isan integrate mood right now is my ten year old son because he may put all three of us in a very unseemly position in our bracket competition, very true. All right. That's how we're rolling here. 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True cash offer not available in all states. Himself free. For the. That one was. That was the step back three by Ryan Klein down three eighty seventy seven with time ticking down I'm telling you man, the twenty two points. He scored in the second half is when Tennessee dominated the game. They would have been blown out without let's say half of clients threes or if Tennessee actually shot their annual their their average free throw percentages here that shot fifty percent from the line. Normally, they shoot seventy seven percent. They could have won that game by double digits last night. One of the many reasons why Tennessee is kicking itself today. But sometimes you just have to tip your cap and that kid Ryan Kline was spectacular. That's the night mean neither his life. Neither has life senior leadership. It's great to see in college basketball right in this day and age where it's all won events where tunnel one and done players tonight. I'll tell you that. But he got senior leadership guys. Around forever. It's like, hey, Matt painter spent all those years and produce. And now, it's his first elite eight. Appearance as coach in Purdue. Or by the way, one last thing he's the second most tenured coach in the big ten aft after Izzo. He's been there since five mile. And you saw Jean Katie sitting there last night school. I know it's pretty cool. Good stuff for the Purdue Boilermakers all the boiler up people. I know from Rod Woodson to drew Brees. Good karma from Tyler Trent man, Tony these things happen when you name your student gate after Tyler Trent these things. I'm I believe that stuff. I really believe it. Eight four four zero four is the number to dial Clark Kellogg Turner CBS Westwood One NCWA analyst joining us back here on the program. How you've been Clark. I'm terrific rich. Great visit with you. How are you doing like you're in good for well? You know, what I just get excited seeing performances like that? Even though it destroyed my bracket just seeing performances like that in games like that last night was what's the hottest shooting night? You ever had you ever have a Ryan client type night Clark. I think I made a couple of one in school. Actually, my senior year I recall was opening night. And we were expected to be really good, and I was really excited about getting the season going, and, you know, it's amazing kind of what stays on the hard drive your mind. This is, you know, forty years ago ready, and I can remember distinctly make twenty two out of twenty six twenty shots and all variety of shot. Low. There's jumpers. I mean, it was just one of those nights men. They don't come along a bunch. But when they do they kinda stick in your memory. And that was amazing. I mean, the step back three to tie the game at eighty that. We just replayed right there to Clark how how dangerous is Purdue. Do you think in the long run here extremely I mean when you think about the ability to make threes at that little he and Carson that was both in Edwards is a dynamic score. Because of his ability to move with up the ball shoot it off the dribble drive to the goal. He was uncharacteristically poor from the foul line. That was the only issue with that game. I mean, there were thirty won miss free throws between the teams rich. Otherwise, I mean, they both shot fifty percent plus from the floor may twenty seven threes between them on fifty five attempts and low turnover game. So then the missed free throws which actually added to some of the drama and excitement, quite honestly as we. We went to the extra session, but it was really exciting game the comeback from eighteen down three point shooting. I think there was a time in that game. And I'd have to go back and watch it. But I think seven or eight baskets in a row that were made. That's right work threes between the two teams. I mean, Admiral Scofield, the Monte Turner on the Tennessee side. And then obviously Kline was in another zone. I mean twenty two and then he made seven of ten total. But it was really fantastic to watch. How those teams went at it down the stretch. Carson Edwards was in fact, follow fouled in the corner for three to do the initial look at it. Head onto Carson. I thought lamantia done a nice job of challenging without fouling. But when you got the baseline, look he actually did bump him in the mid area lower body, and you've got to protect the shooter. According to how the rules are written tough tough call and it's not ideal you'd love to see it just be a play on. But that contact warranted. The. Whistle. According to how the rule is written. So I had no problem with it. After after seeing the second time, I was watching that on the big screen that they had up in the Honda center. Anaheim in between the games between Gonzaga's win over Florida state. And and Texas texts demolishing of of Michigan, and it was easily the most excited the crowded gotten all night, even. All everyone of every fan base had gotten in. Everyone was just hanging on every moment. And part of that is because you know, after that game was finished up, Texas Tech just took all the air out of Michigan. And the Texas Tech fans that were there last night or a will never forget that experience. What does Texas Tech do better on defense than than everyone else because they are the best defensive team left in this tournament? If not the entire country. David terrific all year, rich, and what they do is. They're really committed to this game. They're very sound. And they can defend the ball individually. Really? Well, when you look at Jared Kover, and Matt Mooney and Morandi you watch them. They don't get beat a lot one on one. And when they do guard the ball one on one other guys are in their gaps and really really tied together. Well, and then you've got shocked blocking presence with Tariq. Oh, along the very best shot blockers in the country you physicality with ODI. So you've got all of the elements and integrate commitment to it schematically from all of the players. And obviously you've got to give the coaching staff. Great credit, but they don't get beat. They can guard their their man individually. Really well, and then you combine that with good teams Matic's and a good team awareness, and they just don't. Give you much easier. And they turned the water off on the wolverines in a big way last night. Yeah. I mean when you say don't give anything easy every time. Texas Tech turned the ball over. And it was a transition three guys were back. I mean, there was a single opportunity. It was it was it was malling. It was an absolute mauling how how much of an opportunity think Texas Tech has to cut down the nets. They do because they defend such a high level and they found some good rhythm offensively here in the last few weeks other than the game against West Virginia. They lost in the big twelve tournament. They had been playing really well -fensive, and you combine those two things that'll travel wherever you go Gonzalez showed an awful lot at the defensive end last night and have shown at all season got away from him for a time and that Saint Mary's game, but other than that they've been really sound defensively, and they were outstanding defensively last night, the bulldog the bulldog the edge because they've been much more consistent and the nations. Best offensive team all season long, you combine that with the grit. They showed defensively last night. And on the glass, I think they'll find a way to get enough points to create a cushion to be able to really make it hard for Texas Tech the comeback on them. But if Texas Tech jumps out and gets good lead early on, and then they played through Colver it to be problematic. But I liked his eggs to to win just because of their overall ofensive balance our Kellogg here on the rich Eisen show. So are we still just all rent payers dukes world or or or UCS? I was never in that camp. I mean, I'm enjoying the ride obviously the phenomenon of Zion. Williamson is really special doesn't come along. Like that very often. When you see a player that is the first of his kind that we've seen. I mean, we've had periods in players, but usually every twenty years or so, and I go back to probably shack in terms of a player that had you scratching your head. Who is he like because he's really unique and John is much that way Oscar Robertson was that way. We'll was that way Kareem was that way. Magic was that way. Pistol Pete in another type of way was that way. Again. Some serious noise. Clark Clark those series names. Those are some serious names. I'm not talking about in in terms of career. I'm talking about in terms of unique appearance on the scene and production. And how they did it. I mean, you think about his speed his size, his agility, his I q and savvy his impacted both ends you can only count those kind of players on maybe two hands and your feet when you talk about really unique impactful players that may be set a trend for that kind of player going for LeBron would be in that category. And so again, I think he's that type of unique present, and then you factor in his charisma where he's playing how he's playing all of that lens to what has become really a must see television for those that are interested in basketball and unique story and his first two performances statistics. As good as Durant's that. That's the last time. We saw somebody. You wanna keep throwing names out there from the tournament. But that talent in the hands of coach K who also has guys like reddish and obviously Barrett at his disposal. We're we're not we're not paying rent and dukes world you. So who do who do you like from? I don't think. So I mean, clearly, I believe they should be the favorite. But I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they automatically win at the one thing that gives me some pause riches youth and anytime you're talking about winning championships. It's very rare that teams even if they're supremely talented, but lacks experience are able to get it done in a six game run to a championship. The two thousand fifteen team obviously was carried by freshman. But there were some key seniors on that team as well. If I'm not mistaken, Quinn, cook Jefferson. So you've got to have some of that. Because in the crucible of the one and done full Matt teams can game plan against you. And part of what happened against UC f- is that Duke was able to make threes. But UCF did keep them out of transition for the most most part and made them go over the top as opposed to through them and to dukes credit R J Barrington's ion in Cam and even trae Jones made it. But they were able to rise to the occasion. And we'll see if they can continue to do that. Because I think Virginia Tech their number one in fewest points allowed in the paint in the country. Virginia Tech is this act of size. Java packing it in and make team making team move the top. And we'll see if Duke is able to do that even with his eye on the last meeting. Virginia Tech didn't have to face. I on Cup. More minutes left with Clark Kellogg, who's final four studio. Analysts CBS and Turner right here on the show. So are you sitting next to Charles watching the Auburn Carolina game tonight? Are you in his presence from my have to be? I might have to be volunteer. Volunteer Fisher between in can't candy tonight, separates, those guys actually preparing to do that in some form or fashion. I imagine they'll get pretty pretty intense with those Tigers and tar heels going at it for an opportunity to get to the alita should be great fun, though. I'm sure what is that? Like can you take a fan in? What's it like sitting with Charles and obviously Kenny for for their for their because we all love basketball. There's tremendous mutual respect. We've got a great team when you factor in Wally who has been. In there with a survey. Greg Gumbel and Ernie Johnson last week in the folks, you don't see. But just those two guys are really they're authentic the genuine. They're good guys. They love hoops on their funny. So it's actually really good time to enjoy some laughs while we're talking about college basketball. So, but you have to get in between them essentially at some point. I might I think I might be good. It's all now, you know, all of the talk leading up to it rich. It's fun and games. But the real deal happens tonight one of those teams moving on to the elite eight, and I think is a long of those schools. I know how I would feel in half. Phil when the buckeyes have been in that position in basketball, football or other sports. It's part of where your heart. Is you talk about your alma mater, having success. I know to be pretty I'm pretty intense emotional in there for those gas tonight. Yeah, we don't talk. How state football around here. Clark. You know what? I mean. We don't all you, don't okay, my bad. That just kinda we just glossed hard. We gloss not mind on occasion because of and so attached to that place, and I still live in Columbus. So it's not too far from my mind and my tongue. Great spot. It really is obviously just having just having fun. So with Houston and Kentucky how does that match up tonight before? I let you go here Clark j Washington's availability, and even if he can play what level of affected nece really have. I think Houston is one of the more undervalued and underappreciated teams in the country. They don't do it with great flash. But they do play top-shelf defense. I think in defensive efficiency when you look at some of the sabermetrics, they may be number one in the country over on defensive efficiency. I think that's can palms statistical measure they rebounded a high level. They've got a great shot maker in score in Corey. Davis junior, and although Armani Brooks has struggled in tournament. He's a forty percent three point shooter on the season and very dangerous, and they got a number of good young players that I think are competitive that are not afraid and that really relish this opportunity to surprise the world actually picked them to go to the final four actually leaning towards Carolina coming out of there now, but I give Houston a really good chance to prevail. Tonight's game. So who do you who did you have in your bracket before I let you go here to brackets? I did one on selection Sunday night on the air. Once we got done for selection show, and that was three number one siege Duke, well, the three number one seat and then Houston. Okay. Kind of outline I like to try to at least have one teenager. Maybe a little bit off the radar, and then I did another one that was published on CBS sports dot com. You know, presented there, and that was Michigan state with Gonzaga, Hugh. Houston and Virginia with Gonzaga winning it all in both of the brackets. It's you you are very much alive right now. Clark Kellogg on your brackets very much. Tell me about it last night was an unmitigated disasters Tennessee and Michigan go out for me. But that's just me. That's the beauty of this plan bracket. I know that. Hey clark. Thanks, kevin. Great time calling. You calling it on Westwood One. The final four and the national championship three games on the weekend. Yeah. We look forward to that. The last few years, I got my start in radio way back with the Pacers. So it's kind of back to the future. And it's nice to have a full full plate those two days at the final full. And you are with royalty with John Thompson right next year. That is royalty. Kevin kugler. Okay. Then Bill Walton and Jim gray. Join us with the halftime. So we got a great crew come on. Are you serious? Jim Graham, Bill Walton together yet. Entertaining, informative. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Take gym on the on the dead tour with them to be fantastic. Fantastic. I love it. And just does John have the towel over his shoulder for the for the broad. Okay. Really good insight from years doing it at a high level and sheriff. He's got a pretty good wit about him too. Nice sense of humor. So it's great fun. Really? Appreciate the call. Thanks for the call will chat soon. You got with you. With Clark Kellogg at Clark Kellogg CBS on Twitter at sea long with two Gs CBS on Instagram. Bill Walton and Jim gray together. Wow. That's like twins. Right. Isn't that like twins? Like the veto and Schwarzenegger of of the sports broadcast of this word broadcast girl. Yeah. Winning it all in both by the way, Gonzaga Houston. Michigan state in Virginia would be no on your mental. Yeah. No one would have that. And tonight the rich Eisen show bracket. Competition could be eight rap in favor of my ten year old can you boy, I I don't know how to describe wait wait to hear what my day was like yesterday. And then I'm how how Chipper was I leaving here yesterday. Cla- not in cloud nine. But like cloud seven you were excited. I went from Chipper to the wood Chipper and just to spend a few hours. That's the sports fan world that we all live in a very important question to ask you and the fan base of this program. But what to do I've got I've got a conundrum. That's all coming up next here on the rich Eisen show. Eight four four zero four rich number to dial. Okay. This is the thirty second commercial. 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So where do we start here? Here's the scoop if Kentucky beats Houston tonight. Yes. The rich Eisen show bracket. Competition is won by my ten year old Zander. Correct. All. Free by all math calculations that looks like that's the cousin. My ten year old Zander chose Purdue last night. It's crazy. He nailed it the ad Purdue all three is just a Kentucky win over Houston away. Yeah. But can save you could save us. I'd rather because I'm wearing clown makeup, regardless. It's gotta be all three of us. I want all three I see is misery loves company, boys. Go where was my company the last four years? I mean, you you were you were singularly terrible. So and watching that all unfold last night. Was just part of the whole nightmare Hayes. Okay. Good one. Just let me let me just walk you through it so deep. Yeah. Nightmare nightmare Hayes nightmare. Hayes Jimi Hendrix. Yeah. It was not per. It was Mazen goal. It was Mazen blue and and read so let me just walk you through everything. Okay. So you left here I left here. And I was picked up by the by the rich Eisen if you will group. I went with three of my agents from UTA. Okay. Peter Benedek who is a legend in this industry and a diehard Michigan guy. And j B FitzGerald who played football at Michigan for three years. God bless him. He survived the rich rod and Brady Hoke experience low use there. Use their happen. And Ryan Hayden news has nothing to do with Michigan. But he came along. And we're all sitting there all we go to the catch restaurant. Buddies little shout out to this spot across the street from where the angels play baseball. It's right all area angels stadium. Nice area right down from a Honda center. K great Jesse Bassey. Bass's great, though is matter of fact, it says legendary in in the menu, and we don't mean Cam nealy. So you'll understand why I'm telling you all the store. Okay. Very then we go and Peter who's again wired in this town the seats. He gets are in row a center court. I mean, the picture you posted I was eerie there's zoomed in or you have really great see. And so I'm set up and I'm thinking to myself. All right. I've got no dog in the Gonzaga Florida state hunt here. Sure, right. I mean, it's for you guys in terms to take four to stay. But it doesn't matter. I mean like I'm so hype for the Michigan game, I'm sitting I'm sitting through it got it. And I'm going in my mind is to who it would benefit me to in our competition for you to lose this game. And I'm doing the math, and I'm watching Tennessee, which is my final four team in in the south bracket. I'm watching them getting loan out on the app. Okay. We've got that going right. And then the eventually put it up on the screen in time outs. And halftime, whatever. And it was a wildly entertaining game after Gonzaga beat Florida state. And I'm watching also in front of me in front of us is the back end of media row. And how do I describe this? It's not your father's media row. It's not your grandfather's media row anymore. The people in front of us essentially were tweeting about the game one dude from the ringer sitting right in front of us. We saw a little bit too much of him when he would lean over a okay. I mean, let's just say let's just say a Palmer Lynch's say Simmons doesn't have a dress code for the people. He's putting in in press row. Okay. But then again, I might be a little old school when he's instant Instagram live ING stuff out. Sure. That's what that's his job. It's the different age. And he's writing I mean, this is meteorologist. I was in media row. You're taking notes there was one guy who was taking notes like it's the six minute, Mark. This is what's happening literally note any notepad. But they'll yeah. This is what? And then there was one L older gentleman who had a paper boy cap on and a bushy white sort of John Bolton look moustache are nicknamed for. Him the entire time. Because he had he took notes he was doing nothing. He was actually sitting in whatever empty seat. There was. His nickname. We nickname for him throughout the entire game was moonlight Graham. One of the players in Florida state is Terrence Mann thought only need is a Concetta and cornfield, and we got ourselves a little remake you build it. So at shooting. Finally, the Michigan game comes down, and it's total unmitigated Esther. I take an Instagram. Shop of the tip off all went totally downhill from there any any house of cards worst nightmare performance. Not good. The worst first half Michigan performance in the history of the NCW tournament sixteen first-half points worse than the nineteen forties performance against Holy Cross in nineteen forty eight that unfolded. None for nineteen from three point range. We left with seven minutes to go in the game. We didn't see a single three point shot made from Michigan. So all that said, I have in my back pocket mango and putting it on the spot, right? Usually put things Bob Cousy point on that. Holy cross. I have right here in my pocket. And I save these things I have a box full of ticket stubs same. Here's my ticket stub from last night's game. And I'm thinking to myself, do I save this? Or do. I it some plus block today as my wife Susie said when I walked out the door suggesting talk about on the show day. Do I go outside and burnt like literally tall. Yeah. Have it have some form of exercises them? Yeah. I mean, we might need to call the gun to fire. I but do. It. Do I what do I do? You can't keep that, man. You can't keep it. There's assured the the shot of my Instagram photo with the time in the background. Does. I mean six fifty nine tip off there. It is a great tip of perfect shot. I had zoom in over the head of the ringer, dude, and his plumber situation, and moonlight Graham and some guy from Fox Sports radio who is like taking selfies of themselves actually owned it put the word work over his cO selfie on on at one point. And one point. It was not you one point the guy from the ringer was taking shots fans. And whatever I thought if he was going to zoom in on me in the middle of all this. I would flip. I would literally I thought in my head. I will flip off this guy and tell Bill Simmons personally to go f- himself. And they can go ahead and use that as content for the ringer or at ringer. What honestly was prepared to do that? That's how miserable. It was to the point to bring this all full circle. My highlight of the day was indeed the legendary sea bass at the catch. It really is that good. As I watch Tennessee go down in flames. And Michigan had the worst performance ever. He got some cloud music over there, buddy. Hey, look, welcome. Welcome to the Rosen. Welcome to the clown world man telling you I do. See I mean, you gotta Magnus see my guy my guy Peter was walking out because he wasn't coming back for Saturday to watch Texas Tech versus Concetta. 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Hour 1: And Then There Were 12

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Hour 1: And Then There Were 12

"Welcome to Spain. And fits the podcast it Spain advance on ESPN radio, the espionage and Sirius XM channel eighty sarahspain with you as always Jordan cornet is back again for this fry your show presented by progressive insurance. And we got some games to get to tonight. But I gotta talk about last night's Sweet Sixteen slate, and I'm glad that Jordan's back because we're gonna call this segment. Jordan. Explain your subject pegged it last night. Right. No, no. You weren't quite right on all. Let's take a little trip in the time machine back to Wednesday night. When Jordan was giving us all the goods on one of his favorites to go to the final four. Michigan. Michigan is as balanced on both sides of the basketball as you're going to see in his turnament. They've got a lot of weapons they're incredibly athletic. They do not make mistakes because they're coached by one of the grades in Giambi line Xavier Simpson at the point guard position. Dissect even the most intensive defenses and makes plays as a playmaker. Their ability to make shots how stout. They are defensively and how they don't make mistakes and give the ball away. They'll be unfazed by this defense. I got Michigan your own explain yourself. It was coded you missed what I was saying with the break down there. I got this one role. I was stunned and I was not looking forward to being held accountable and Friday like, I know Sarah, Spain would hold me. Look, I under- rated R downplayed I didn't underrate I knew Texas Tech defensively with stout. I knew how difficult is team was I didn't think they'd be able to score at the level. They did you know I under sold Jared Culver as being a top four three four pick in this NBA draft that I'd say he could have moved past potentially RJ Barrett. That's how good I think he is not just off this one game. But when you really watch he had twenty two points in this game. But let's talk about Michigan because I think I called them shot makers. And that's where the mistake would be made. Because clearly this Texas Tech defense was disruptive. Michigan was on their heels offense the entire game of three point line. The great equalizer in the game, not kind to Michigan. They made sixteen field goals. Thirty two percent and made one three point basket on nineteen attempts in mop-up time. I think they say you make one hundred percent of the shots. You don't take true? Michigan almost missed shots. One hundred percent of the shots. You don't even. Michigan missed one hundred percent of the shots that they took from three only making what look I looked at Xavier Simpson. I thought he'd be the calming force the point guard for the wolverines a guy who averages nearly seven assists per game was shook this defense. The perimeter was suffocating had him playing back away from the basket. Couldn't find those penetrating lanes. He had one assist. And if I only look at that Statoil, you the rest of the story because he sets the table for his guys the only guy on Michigan's team who seemed comfortable against his defense was the freshman Iggy brains aches, he had mild success to them a lot of shots to get to seventeen points while most of those dead calm went to the game is kinda out of hand. Tariq Owens is a guy that if I'm a GM at the next level. I'm looking at is the offense of game is so so, but as a rim protector, a great leaper who can change ins. There's a home for him at the next level. This Texas Tech team as a final four feel to them. There's no other way around it. I've never seen Michigan. Look this bad your Michigan fan. You didn't even expect this. And I know you had a rooting interest in that team. Yeah. I did tell you though that I was not nearly as confident in Michigan as you were. And I did not have them in my final four in any of my eleven teen brackets that was a consistent move. And all of my brackets was that. I I didn't like the way I saw Michigan give up big leads to MSU and some important games during the regular season. And so I just I didn't see it. I of course, did not see this happening forty four points. This game was tied six six nine minutes in and you knew what was going to be one of those that comes down to these are eighteen to twenty two year olds. And when the eighteen to twenty two year olds shots are going in like they weren't for Michigan your little less interested in defending. You're not as energetic on that side. You're not calling out screens like your customer. You're not switching with the what the fervor that you typically do when you're banging down shots. The lackluster performance the fruitless efforts time and time again on the offense of side. It was a domino effect defensively in Texas Tech. Look, it wasn't a great offensive night for them by any means only. Made six threes shot a very average forty-three percent from the field to little bit above average. But it was a blow out you get sixty three points at a tournament game. I don't expect that to be a twenty point win. But that's how good that defense was. And we know the old adage defense wins championships get into that later because I want to ask you if you if you had the chance of taking Texas Tech d versus Gonzaga offense, which unit do you want? But I want to continue with this segment which once again is Jordan, explain yourself. It's sarahspain Jordan cornet Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Let's hear what you thought about that Purdue Tennessee matchup here. He is Carson Edwards is a flat out star this team of spreads out the shoot the three fundamentally sound they capture their box outs. They're opportunistic in the open floor. They could operate in the half court. They can win games in the sixties. They could turn around win games in the eighties. It's a versatile squad. I think it's one of map painters best that he's ever had there. That's why I think they could be making a final four run. Yeah. You're welcome, sir. You get off my back now. If they weren't playing a team like, Tennessee. Oh, that's a shame. That is a shame. Dr by voice, there wasn't going on had it Aniela. You talk too much you end up. Get yourself in trouble. I should've just laid out theirself right out of that pick. That's what they always tell me. Jordan, less is more. Put a truly been more that look I told you I produce good. I told you why Purdue was going to be there. This game was over those Sarah. Hello Monte, turn enough out onto three I would have been prophetic. In everything I said, how good Purdue is how great Carson Edwards is produce ability to win in the sixties the eighties. Heck the nineties how this map painters. Best team ever. I didn't expect Ryan Klein to go off for guy who averages twelve game more than double his average. He was lights out, but Tennessee did just enough except over zealous on. What was a foul? I don't care what anybody says Carson Edwards was found on a three what I continue to watch over and over again with that sequence is how Carson didn't stand put his feet his heels on on the line to be out of bounce, right? He was on his toes. Now. Here's the thing. Did you think it was about? I thought I actually agree with what I heard Jay Bilas, San Stephen a Smith show today, which was if you put thirty rests in a room, and you told them it was called the foul. They would all explain why if you put thirty other f- syndrome, you told them it wasn't called. It was a no call. They would explain why it's one of those who could have gone either way. But I think you have to leave him. Mm to land. That's the rare was no room to land. So it doesn't matter. Whether it's the first minute of the game or the last second of the game you call the call correctly. Which is what they did. I got no argument there. It's just unfortunate. Because look a lot say Turner did not impact the three point shot. Carson Edwards was going to miss that off balance. Conference or not it's not going to happen. So what else say is if the calls not made I'm not going to sit there and mourn with Purdue fans at say they were robbed because Carson had words was out. What I would say was he got a clean look. He's one of the best players in the countries. And all American he missed the shot. And that's what it comes down to that. You make that three win the game. However by the letter of the law Turner him well, and it's tough to feel too bad for Tennessee because you had an overtime. And I thought they'd be fine and time because how they were able to re they should have been there. They got beaten this game. And then they turned it around cut into that eighteen point deficit, and when you do enough to get there, even though you can't close it in regulation. I still felt like Tennessee's back. They got back into this thing. Don't win it and extra five and that didn't happen. Yeah. And I wonder if there is any sort of mental component to believing. It had the game won realizing whether or not they believe that was the correct call maybe just frustration in in a poor choice on that play at that sending them. Into the overtime dejected because I believe produce scored eight of the first eleven points or something in the extra session. Just started. You knew it was over. Look, you're like what was it? A heptathlete is as Iraq nailed it. So you're the most truest of athletes. You're in. So you all sports, but you also played basketball one time you're like there is nothing to me. That's more pressing in terms of having. Ice innovations right, then to miss the first free of arson Edwards, dead and everybody. You saw us the CUDA waste was mom. I said, oh, no. This is going to be one of those moments. They'll never live down and then to make the next two free throws. You know, what I should have thought that point? That's the turning point actually when I played high school basketball the other girl on my team who we shared MVP honors. She was she she went onto playing college. Her dad made a video recapping the season for everybody. And you think oh that's nice only the highlights he elected to show a game in which I made one of two free throws and the other one if I had made it would've tied they gave insensitive to overtime, and he put in the background. It takes two to make a thing. Go right. Wow. End of the year highlight can we get a legend? I mean or worse. How about just some highlights takes for joke. Hey, if it's a little. The senior you weren't motivating for next year. So you're still old enough to get this like seventh grade high school, but we need that inter interrupting our series of highlights was just me I've been cursed by this song ever said haunting me you. Appreciate it can be someone's dad. His radio's presented by progressive insurance. Mauvaise I'm getting PTSD small business protection for more than vehicles with specialized coverages to protect against financial loss. More progressive commercial dot com. Sarahspain in Jordan cornet Spain and Fitz Jordan had to explain himself for Wednesday's picks next. We'll give him a chance to redeem himself picking tonight. It's Spain in bits ESPN radio and the SPN. We don't want Jordan to shut up. He is an expert on these things you can't get them. All in fact, nobody gets them all even that neuroscientist or neuro psychologist or wherever that guy was who had the perfect bracket is no longer Paducah Purdue broke his bracket role. So real quick very quickly. There was a girl. Well, that parents also had a perfect bracket that I saw local news did a coverage of put it was handwritten. And the mom's like, I promise she wrote it before. What's her name? Becky. Yeah. Exactly. Promise. This was home also gave a hundred dollars and a coupon to bed bath and beyond to the news station to get it covered. So I mean, I sorry. I mean, I'm not saying, I know for sure that the girl didn't have it. Right. But you gotta put it on the computer. No one's buying the promise. She wrote this out before more buffets given. Employees to scratch marks here. Got worn had it all nailed it. Jordan cornet filling in for fits with Sarah Spain, all of our guests appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. And that audio was on the Westwood One NCW radio network as the Sweet Sixteen continues tonight. We're going to give Jordan a chance to redeem himself with a couple more games. Let's start with the number three LSU still without their coach. Will Wade some thought that that would have a greater effect on them? And yet they seem to be powering through facing up against a team that many think has a deep run 'em in Michigan state. How do you see this one game? Look LSU's playing phenomenal basketball right now. LSU squeaked by a couple of games in this moment, but yet still survived and that's allowed for advancement. I look at this game. I looked at the point guard position in this cash us Winston who I love her stray waters who wins that battle will be very interesting. This was going to be about the paint. LSU's a team that does not do a lot of damage from the three point line. They get at the rim. The only team that does it better scoring at the rim as Duke LSU's ability to finish around the rim challenge. Michigan state's front. Line. Second chance opportunities who's gonna win the backboard Michigan state at times, which you would think is never a problem for them. But has been allowing second chance opportunities LSU feasts on offensive rebounds. So there's a little checks and balances here when LSU blitzes the offensive glass that could lead to transition opportunities for caches Winston and Michigan state. So the balance of offense of rebounds transition points for Michigan state how that ebbs and flows throughout this game. But ultimately, look at the matchup of Nick ward and is rebound low. I look at trae waters and caches Winston who best wombs there. And in terms of finishing in the pink is both teams do it. Well, who wins those battles all that being said? A part of me wants to say LSU wins this game. I know we're recording. This. I'm going to go with Michigan state because I believe the best player on floors. Caches Winston the last time. Michigan state won a national championship was nineteen years ago. And their point guard was a very very special and on that team. And this guy is just like him. Mac leaves right there, by the way for those. I love you hedged, your bets by saying I wanna pick LSU, but I'm going that way. No matter what part of that. We play you can say, I mean, I had it. I had it Cuarto educate you kick anything. Reality dummy, the lawyer on around the horn today do come from a family of lawyers. Yeah, you're not going to get one past me. Let's let's stick in that region for the later game Virginia Tech at the number one seed and do this is a game. A lot of people are pointing to a previous meeting to massive stars were out for that one. I think it's really hard to use that previous game as any kind of indication of what happens tonight to massive stars because everyone talks about Zion Williamson play that game. But let's not forget, Justin Robinson, the heart and soul of Virginia. Tech was to out Zeile Williams returned even bigger batter better just the Robinson's not necessarily the same player. But he gives us Virginia Tech team a ton. Everybody says the blueprints been laid out. Thanks to UCF of how to beat Duke. Okay. Can convey taco fall just transferred? 'cause we gotta go into Blacksburg all week. They allowed for a rare mid tournament transfer. Yeah. So as you hear there from there's no seven foot, six guy on Virginia Tech. Conversely, it's the extreme opposite side their biggest guys six ten and carry blacks year after that everybody goes about six five six four six three six two an on doubt. So in that front. Everybody says the blueprint is a have a rim protector like taco fault. They do not possess challenge. Trae Jones, George gold wire to be shooters for Duke, heck, all of them, really. But by all accounts, protect the rip Virginia Tech does to that. Very well, so it's gotta be an all out blitz. Offense away from Duke to get to the rim and finish there. But what Virginia Tech has at UCF did not have and UCF was able to do some damage from three point line? Thanks reductions Virginia Tech is blessed with shooters permanent shooter's at every position on the floor. All five guys three point threats. They space you out, and they'll challenge the defense Duquense take a risk at a passing lane that could go the other way and be a three point shot with an open. Look Virginia Tech. Would be magnificent from three point line. They got hit double figure threes. And they've got to do what they can at the rim. I think Kerry black here gonna get foul trouble. I think Duke wins this one by double figures. I agree with you. I don't feel as much concern as many do because I think it's a completely different game. Was I in back in and with something to prove from that last time sarahspain Jordan cornet Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio ESPN app and Sirius XM channel eighty breaking down. Tonight's games. Let's move over to the mid west region. The first game a six thirty central seven thirty eastern start Auburn at North Carolina. A fascinating match up of two teams that wanna ratio Jared. Harper Bryce Brown or three point wizards for this Auburn team they live and die by the three point shot. It's what carries this team if they get hot there, though, hang around in this one Auburn, I don't think has the firepower to keep up with this North Carolina offense, North Carolina is a blur in the open floor off makes they go and most especially off MRs go. Watch Kobe white tonight watch how he plays for this team another guy, I don't know necessarily if he's going to be a great pro. But I know in the college game he has been phenomenal. This is the guy that makes them go of Zion. Williamson doesn't play in the ACC college basketball for that matter. This guy's the headliner the kids all the attention, the garners all the headlines highlights I love how he plays. But my focus gonna be on Kenny Williams defensively the guard for North Carolina how he can guard and limit guys like Bryce Brown like a Jared Harper. Kenny defend the three point line take that away. Run them off make them drivers. As you look at this. When the seer little is he healthy enough to give them the lift that he's given them in the first two games averaging better nineteen points per game. We'll have to see there. But all in all I just think when you've got the level of talent the North Carolina has it simply Trump's when Auburn brings it's the back court with Auburn. It's five six seven eight guys with North Carolina. And for that reason, I go tar heels. So you mentioned that they both like to play a fast pace so night. There's going to try to slow the other one down. But auburn. Does it differently with the three whereas North Carolina tries to get you in the paint. And North Carolina is out rebounding. Other teams by twenty-five in the tournament up. So if Auburn can keep up on the glass that gives them a chance it Carolina sweeps them on the glass, and then they can get those transition points that you talked about that's going to be thirty minutes. It might be close. But those last ten right should go. Carolina's Auburn on the other hand, though, they have turned over their opponent one out of every four possessions in the tournament, which is huge. So if they can get those deals, and they can give them self possession via that versus the revenge. We look at Kobe white is he gonna play like freshmen or is gonna play like Kobe white. I think it will be the ladder. And for that reason. I think Carolina rolls. All right. Our last game. We'll make this one quick. This is my upset. Actually. I don't I don't think it's going to happen. But I said today around the horn if anybody is is looking over their shoulder the most in this one it's Kentucky at Houston. Houston picks you up at the three point line. They pack it in. This is a team that's leading the nation in field goal percentage. Three point percentage defense, they aren't super big. But they're they're long, and they have a lot of muscle down there. Beautiful basketball team to watch Armani. Br. Is a score on his team at the wing position. Corey davis. One of the best two way players in league Robinson sets the pace. I love at backward. Those three guys that I just mentioned they've got servicemen down low her very good led by Fabian, white. They do everything right? They can play fast. It can operate in the half court. They can rebound. They can defend for Kentucky who's PJ Washington going to be a PJ Washington place. It gives them that Goto basket down. Low slows down a defense gives you guaranteed offense allows Kelvin Johnson to be that wing special player and allows everybody else to play off of him guys. Like Tyler hero to bring bang down. The three point shot PJ Washington plays at high level Kentucky wins this PJ Washington. Plays managed minutes and isn't much of a factor. I give it to Houston. I think PJ Washington will play minimum minutes or not be as much of an impact guy for that reason. I think Houston is gonna win this game. I got it on tape. Jordan's that scheduled to begin anytime soon, but we're gonna have them call what we're gonna make him for team himself or answer for himself. ESPN MBA report him leak Andrews is gonna join us next on Spain and Fitz. Phyllis in on Janas. It to compose injury. And how the bucks are going to handle the rest of the regular season. It's next ESPN radio in the SPN Yana Santa Toco goes out with an ankle injury. And leaves a lot of questions for this, Milwaukee Bucks. Team already plagued by injuries with six or eight games left in the regular season. And a first place seat on the line and the health of a superstar in the postseason on the line as well it Spain and fits sarahspain Jordan cornet filling in for Fitz on ESPN radio ESPN app and Sirius XM channel eighty we are presented by progressive insurance. Let's head out to the shell Pennzoil performance line where Melinda Andrews ESPN NBA report reporter covering the midwest joins us Melita. I just how serious to the bucks. Think this injury is. You know, Sarah, the bucks are pretty optimistic. This is just a tweak. What it seems like last night? When I was at the game was that, you know, there's eight minutes left in the fourth quarter and Janas he went down he dunked, which she does all the time. And he was retreating to get back on defense. And he looked like he stepped on Garrett temple foot with that right foot? And he just re tweaked that ankle that he hurt about two weeks ago. He missed two games after tweaking it initially against the Sixers, then he sat out against the Lakers. He's out out against the Cavaliers, and then he came back and last night when I asked him about it. I said did you feel like you even got back to one hundred percent after that initial ankle sprain? And he said, no, you know, it usually guys this four five six games. But I love to play. I really wanted to come back. And so I'm still working on getting my strength back from that initially goal, and he sort of beneficial ankle injury. And he's sort of tweaked it a little bit in every game. Then, you know. You know on the heels of what we saw the big fella for Portland Norwich kitchen that awful gruesome injury Belika a compound leg fracture that has him out indefinitely a blazers team that's playing for something out west. How is this? Not a this is our guy. He's in the race for him VP. We know what he means to us. There's six games left. Maybe the one seat is in the most important thing. But the preservation of our guy let's without question. Sit about the rest of the regular season. Is there that thought it seems like there's no clear decision. And they're trying to play this guy even in that game. Well, because I wouldn't want to be the person who stands in between the honest and getting back onto the court. He is I mean if she can play he will play he argues with bud coach, Mike gluten holder sometimes but says, hey, I really don't think he should play tonight. Yada, says no, no good. Let me play this g he lives and breathes to get back on the basketball court, and we'll push and shove to do. So now, sometimes the medical staff have to. Weekly say, okay, honest, you need to sit down you absolutely cannot play tonight. But if there's a will there's a way for him. And so key when we ask them that question last night, we could you know, is there do you wanna be wrapped in bubble wrap that for the rest of the regular season. He said, no, I don't even wanna sit against the Atlanta Hawks again, which they team hasn't ruled out that that will not happen. But that's still being said, you honest. I mean, he just he says, you know, be you know, I want to get back out on the court. You know, I wanna play, and I just wouldn't be the person that I I wouldn't want to be a person who stands between him, and that how much do you think this is about him wanting to be a leader and proved to the guys like, hey, not proved him because he's proven plenty. But show them like on the race. Do you think that's what it is? I don't know to me. Listen, I get what Maliki sing. But if the differences, you stand in front of a guy and say, you have to sit because we need you for the postseason. I don't care how much she wants to play. I don't care I'll hungry his to play. You don't need him straying by that though. Do you think he's driven? I think he's driven by competitiveness. Probably a bit of the MVP race and not wanting to be held back. Even if it's the best thing for me. I think boondoggles and everybody else needs to stand in front of him and say we already have enough guys on the injured list. We need you to be as good as possible to make up for those guys that aren't going to be there when the plan could do you think Sarah might be honest with the MVP portion of this thought, I think you're absolutely does want to be MVP more than potentially. He lets on. It's not his style to go out and peacock about things like that. That's just not who he is that being said, though, this is a guy. Remember they had to he slept in the gym when he first thought to know on he he like he he's a little bit. There's a little bit of some some some the bolts that are shaky up there, and he just loves this so much. Absolutely. He's partly driven by the MVP rates. But also like for them. It's a win that he don't under sleeps in the gym for them is a win that on what mud calls. Lockout days Yatta is still goes to Jim. They're not supposed to be in there on lockout days when he they can actually get you honest to follow the rules and not go to the gym on those. As he builds a home gym because he couldn't get into that gym. So when he actually follows that protocol and follows those rules, they consider that a win and also used to remember that last year, Jason Kidd. I mean, he played this guy so many minutes now he's in the thirties consistently. So Jaanus he says, you know, you'll better at this time this year than I did at this time last year and part of that is just because of the miles on his body, and they are taking so much extra care to make sure that he is good to go in the playoffs. But he has been plagued with those knee and ankle injury kind of all the way through. But I mean, it's a combination of the MVP, and they want the ones that you honest bet it last night they said he said when we play at home, we are pretty unbeatable. So that is that does play a factor in all of this Maliki Andrews NBA reporter for SPN ESPN one thousand covering the mid west you can follow her at Melita underscore Andrews. Yeah. I mean, the seating right now in the east is not as important because those six seven eight teams are so tight you don't yet know which one of you ever going to. I'd be more scared of the nets than the pistons or the heat myself, but you can't decide who you wanna face in the easel state never worried about last year. But that's that's what they're they're thinking bigger, which is wanting home advantage throughout to not just in east yet. And then when you look at the final six games they have a couple with the nets a couple with the hawks. They've got a tough tough to in the thunder and the Sixers how competitive do you think they could be over? The course of those games. They only need to win to right because they've got a four game lead in six games left. Correct. They number two. And if the raptors lose one of those and they only need to win one so quiet out in the bowl. So you know, who knows what happened there? But yeah, I mean this they should their end of season schedule. They have three games on the road, three games at home. So they should be able to pull out that one seat, especially if Chris Middleton is criminal played amazing last night. But that kind of got over overlooked because Jaanus went down with that injury. So if she could be kind of clicking on all of those Bill Anders the way he was they might not eat us to secure up that one of air blood. So can play the way he did against Houston. They may not need to walk up that one, but they all kind of feed off of Janas energy and play better with he's on the court. I wouldn't be surprised to see them go, you know, four and two five and one this last stretch. I mean, they are really on a roll they already formidable team, and we will then see if that translates to the playoffs because they don't have a ton of playoff experience, collectively. And so can this kind of regular season run translate there? And will they get some of these guys back, Nicole Amirah Tich, Malcolm brogden, those sorts of guys will they come back and be able to make an impact in the way that they did before they went out. Awesome stuff Melita enjoy enjoy Milwaukee and have some beers for us and. Good stuff as always, absolutely. Thank you Sarah Maliki Andrews on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Coming up we've seen collegiate players transfer schools, but we've never seen an entire band change schools. Will explain it next Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio and the espionage, you may or may not recognize this as the Ohio State fight song. And you may or may not have recognized the Ohio State pep band wearing Colgate gear for Colgate. March madness basketball game it's made in bed. Sarahspain Jordan cornet filling in for Fitz on ESPN radio and ESPN app. And this story was my FaceTime on around the horn today 'cause I found myself unreasonably, irate, perhaps it was because I was an AllState clarinetist. Also, the plot thickens forever a band. Geek. So that I want stand up for band members, perhaps loyalty school spirit and doing right by people that have done right by you is important to me loyalty, I say and Kyle road house of the Colgate pep band posted and started the conversation around the Colgate athletic department, hiring members of the Ohio State pep band to wear Colgate gear and perform at the highest level for this Colgate team in a moment that should have been for the Colgate pep band members who just like the basketball team work all year long toward a goal of this. Thrilling and exciting possibility of performing at the national level during March madness, the number of reasons that were given for why the Atlantic department decided to forsake its own band favor of a bunch of frauds included that there weren't enough people because there's only twenty but there's only allowed to be twenty nine. Nine. So if they brought their own pep band. They would have been close to the limit or they could have just hired an additional nine member more of Ohio State versus they were even at times looking at getting a high school band instead of bringing their own collegiate band, then they claimed well, they weren't always at every game to which that's fair the pep band director said it was often attributable to poor weather conditions that pose damage to instruments, and he expressed frustration that the athletic concern over attendance was never communicated to them. I think that there's a point in. Why weren't they every game? But we don't know the specifics or how many games they missed. And if that was bothering them something should have been said before merely ignoring and by the way, they were not given an offer to attend. They were not even told about this. In fact, the Ohio State members who played in their stead. We're told that Colgate doesn't have a band. Which is real rushing is exactly. Does it get worse? It does get worse. Then the justification was potentially that it was about the cost as it turns out, the NC double A provides funding for bands cheer teams and mascots to attend instead of using the money for its intended purposes, the athletic department, instead excluded the pep band and opted to hire a local band even asking that high school band. So to me the natural question too is, but wait when Colgate played Tennessee, they played them closely, by the way, I saw Colgate cheerleaders there. Those were no house feature leaders. They spent the money to send in the cheerleaders. Why this is the pep band that bad their attendance that they didn't want. That's what they send them by bringing them is the pep band bad. Right. They're trying to hide. Here's the thing. Keep it simple. Play the heads. I'm sure they can play the fights off shrinkage of shot that can pace loopy or whatever you gotta play. Right. They can play you know, some sort of beyond say turned marching band pep song. It's insulting to them to have a pep band. And then not let them play at the highest level. And to add insult to injury. The social media team posted to Instagram. One more time for the greatest fans in the world. With a photo of members of the fake Ohio State band wearing core goal goal gate gear. And then when the Colgate people started commenting, they kept deleting the comments and this guy from the band said at least eleven calmer. Over two hours were all deleted almost as soon as he could post it. And then eventually they took the whole post down. And then the official Colgate athletics Twitter account tweeted to the Ohio State band thanking them for being quote, nearly the winning edge, sir. I'm gonna warn you might be falling on the sword for public enemy number one up there and call gates campus. Clearly this band is not like, clearly, they're not loyal. Clearly, there's some group that can't believe you're taking the side this many layers of coal gates so against the ban when they'd come out and say the cheerleaders. They were loyal. They were there from start to finish. You know, what they're going to join it on a celebration span. Shaming sounds like your breath rank it's banned shaming. I think it's your standard band. Geeks not being appreciated talented. And guess what? Those are going to be Rockstars L observed they're going to get some serious from across and they're going to be successful popular. Sex. Getting superstars. The awkward age. I'll tell you what I'll tell you. What this one time fan Kim. Okay. Let's go there. Yeah. No, no. I'm good. I'm good. Honestly, this story made me really sad. Whenever the reasons are to end, listen, if you're not going to bring them, then you say before this happens. Unfortunately, we don't think your attendance or the level of your quality of play is up to the standard of performance at the national level. We are going to bring in a different band told me don't just have them turn on the TV and see a bunch of frauds. We're in their stuff to me. The worst thing about it is is this is much like Colgate soon. The same thing Bradley did. And what I mean by that Bradley bears were another team and been at a tournament ages. Colgate hasn't been there at twenty three years since the Donald foil days, both these programs both both both the Bradley bears and his Colgate basketball team should be celebrating the fact that they're in a place. They traditionally don't arrive at playing in the big dance. So including the band, so. Cloak fraternity Bradley had the issue with their head coach Brian Warno did not want their writer who covered the team for twenty nine years. I was massive it mutate because he didn't promote the brand eight Bradley. Hey, colgate. Stay in your lane. Celebrate this huge win. Don't try and be bigger than you are neither of you have a brand so bring the band allow the writer in and celebrate your dancing because you know, what it's going to last for a day, and it's going to be over. Yeah. Because you know, it's sad Wesley Roberts. Who's on the Ohio State band tweeted? Colgate doesn't have a basketball band to send out. So they asked the Ohio State ban to help out. It was a great game cited. This is the enthusiasm that was meant for the band members of Colgate. What you stay sarahspain. She's with you. Hey, you know, what never goes out of style. Besides playing an instrument surprising, a friend or loved one with buy one. Get one free multicolored rose bouquets for twenty nine ninety nine from one eight hundred flowers dot com to order, go to one eight hundred flowers dot com slash ESPN. Spain in bits, Jordan cornet Fillon in for fits. And we all know this year was a disaster for LeBron the Lakers, but. How and why did it all go wrong? Dave mcmanamon is gonna join us next to break it down on Spain and Fitz.

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Celtics Summer League POSTGAME Show | Celtics vs Hawks

The Garden Report | Boston Celtics Post Game Show from TD Garden

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Celtics Summer League POSTGAME Show | Celtics vs Hawks

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So I'm still going to exaggerate it. Don't worry that. There's no way to do this show. Without exaggerating or without overreacting, cuz right. It's really boring to be like if the whole premise of like it's just summer league, like it's just spring training, like it's just training camp. We might as well just not dead just or like, right? It's just sports like you know, you better you or Tristan, it's just a regular season. Like everything is just random anyways. And I mean, who cares about your life? Because, I mean, he was doing everything, you know, all we can do is react. All we can do is react. So we'll start with first off. The one thing, I'm glad I'm going to put this out there early. We're not talking about Carson Edwards. I will never talk about Carson Edwards. I think about Carson Edwards. I don't do it in the regular season, I will not do it in Vegas. Come early, I won't do it. I don't care, I don't care if you scored a hundred points today, I would skip right to him and are and what I text, what did I text you guys? I was like, oh I honestly can't be bothered with one thing. Carson Network, good job. Not do it. Good or bad? Yeah, I'm glad I am glad that he, you know, did it stink today, but we've been down this on this path. I'm not. I'm not, I'm not God, I'm just different. It is what attracts everything he does. He's out there to do what friggin heat check it. I don't want us to see it. I want to see other people do anything. Better bad, it takes away. What do you say that job? Because when I, when I saw his press conference this week, I was just like, like, I'm watching, I'm just like, dude, okay. We know your specialty in everything but like, can you like I don't want us to be, like, I've been a kind of thinking about defense, like, you know, kind of thinking about other ways, the ad, you know, anything to this T. I mean, he obviously dropped a line like I'm willing to do anything. It takes for a role and willing to do whatever, you know, other month are those small things. But I've been working on my shooting, like, I feel like he he thinks about that. I'm going to get mine. He's like, he's like man, I can get back to that. Like that wasn't everything happens for a reason type of thing, you know, birth. He still set on that but we'll show you, we will only talk about we're all going to talk about. We're not talking about he will only tell you what current address to tell you that we will not talk about Carson Edwards wage doesn't matter what Carson Edwards does. It will have no impact on the Celtics or Carson Edwards really right. But you must start with the, I don't want to start my own negative. I'm going to start with young. It's an impossible not to have watch this game and be look, this is cuz we've seen the other guys play. You have a idea, Nesmith wrong. We saw a ton of Peyton Pritchard, okay? Of course, we haven't seen. You haven't seen, you know, the French guy. We're going to get his name wrong until somebody tells me, but is it begaren? Yep. Yep. That's we're going with Pegram, so you saw him. So the first takeaways yum looked like again we always used a thing when we don't know about. People. If you, if you brought an alien down and they said here is basketball, watch it. And who would they say? And having never seen anything, having no idea when people were drafted or who they are and said, who's the best player out here? It's hard. Watching that first half to not have, had your eyes drawn to Yama. Are just in terms of what he did. So, guys observations and what you saw, but I mean, yeah, he's skinny as hell. But his shot looks good. He's twenty-three. He's confident like he knows where he's going out there, you know, like, and that's kind of what you wanted to see there. So, what did you guys think? I think that's the best word. Honestly, it was confidence. You know, I saw energy on both ends, I mean, he's picking, guys, from Full Court and obviously, you sort of expect that as the very first game in summer league, he's coming from overseas. He's obviously been talking to talk in the sense that he has a lot to prove, and he's not planning on going back. His mission is to make this team. So you expect that sort of energy, but you made a final, he made the team. Yes. Like, you're on Parsons nice job. You know what he seemed like to be one of those guys who was like, look dead, I'm not here. Well, I'm here to not only prove myself but I'm here to leave these guys. Like I'm going to show you on another level. And I felt like, I translated on both ends of the floor and a sense of whether he was looking for, guys, took up and looks attacking, and then on the defensive end up in everyone's faces, and even going for, you know, rebounds on both ends of the floor. You know, I thought that was interesting his effort just to seem like a magnet, you know, in terms of that basketball, he seemed to find a way to sort of, get around in every single time while he was out there. Yeah, kind of long like gets his arms and hands around there, you know, quick, I liked what I saw in the limited off, so I didn't see the very beginning of the game hand up. So I did miss like the initial like, yo, move reverse. Yeah, I did see the highlight of it, but I didn't see it live, so that's on me. But I did, you know, a lot of the game and I I do agree with John that he was a player that just kind of stood out, you know, he was kind of playing it just sort of like a different maybe, I'm not going to a different level. It wasn't like you said out that much, but different sort of energy job. A little little, you know, I guess hop in his steps. So, you know, it's good to see because all we had was that, you know, YouTube clips and again like that's why I judge every players on YouTube videos, but it was good to get a little live off live. Actually view of them today. I think he's definitely good enough to make this roster. Certainly he played harder than a lot of his teammates did today, and guys that was an assembly. But you're looking for, I'm looking for a little sign of life, and some of these guys, the Romeos, the nesmith's and and, you know, even if you want to do what comedy, I still looking. I know, I, I would love them too dominant, but at this point, at this point, my, you know, my solo on what I expect my applications are so low that I just want to see them like show a sign of life up there. Well, that's that's true. Yeah, curse words life came on pretty late Richard inside the arc. I thought he had an all right game Romeo in particular, was the one we looked at, and you would have to think at this point. He hasn't played a ton and regular season basketball, but this guy is played a playoff series. Now he has been part of the rotation when he's been healthy in the NBA, it's a third season. You would want to see him playing at a level where you just say all right, sit down and halftime. You just blown everybody away. There's no real use of this instead. All of these guys are out there in the fourth quarter. I know it's a close game and there is some, it's not a big deal. It's not a big yet. Yeah. So there's other reasons that those guys aren't good enough reasons. If they were, they would be what they're not. You look, we've seen. That's the concern here. Is that these are guys that are going to be relied upon in the rotation and they're not able to dominate somebody. So that that's the number one take away. So, but this is where we're stuck a little, you know, is yes, you want to see them. But you're also, you know, and you want to see them Blow by people. That's just not their thing per se, but you do want to see a level where it's clear in shots. Just drain shall don't even care about if they make them. I want to be able to say that guys better than that guy. You know, I want to see good looks, I'd like to see. I would rather see Romeo take it to the rim, break a guy down, break his ankles, pull up for a jumper and miss it off and hit a contested three. Like that's fine. Good, I don't mind the it's good that you hit it, but like, I want to see him look like he's better than the people out there and you want to see me between us, you know, you're looking at Romeo and thinking that I do think, right or wrong, or whether he's given the benefit of the doubt, and they told little anecdote late in the game there, when they were talking about Romeo's press conference about him going in print it reads like yeah, you know, they asked me if I wanted to go and I went but the reality that they were like they kind of told me I had to go but I didn't really want to. He's got a too cool for school sort of attitude but he sort of added it to the end too. He was just like, I want to go, you know, I want to know how long do this. This sounds fun. Let's do it. I think some of that is genuine job. I think some of it is the thing with me with with Romeo on offense that bother me a bit was sort of. Like I feel like he was just going through the motions. I felt like he was looking at his job. And just like, I'm just going to take a pull-up jumpshot here, you know. Oh yeah I guess I could attack but let's see if I can just make this three-pointer here. Like I could see his thought process and I didn't like it. I felt like he was just sort of going with the easier option. Then listen. It is the very first game of Summer League, you know. But so your point, I mean Romeo. Yeah, he didn't play the whole lot, his last two seasons. But we're talking about a game regular season games, one playoff series. You know, I expect a little more offensively at least to show a little more more of a spark more energy but I do want to say this, okay? And again, I'm not being in Romeo Defender if you ask me. I'm not if you ask me gun to my head, is Romeo going to be a productive Pro. I'd say no, you know? And honestly, I'd say the same thing for Nesmith, to be honest, if you ask me, like, what, what do you think? Hey, orange onslaught of much better because you look at other guys, right? And they look better. So just snap judgments, I don't think so. My my whole the reason I'm not bullish on the guys, I'm saying this is the only path to them being a better job. Is these guys who you're going to count on for minutes have to elevate their games to the point that they're legit rotation players cuz again we talked about the talent drop off, you can't go from Tatum and brown to Romeo and Nesmith and have the gulf so freaking wide. It's just it's you can't have it go from you know, all star olympic-level talent to G League, or Vegas League Talent. It's too big a drop off and it's what's going to kill the context that really hurts you here. Is that these guys look like they belong out there, which isn't what you want them to not. Look like you don't want, you want them to separate, they look like they're right out there just like outfitting, right in among these G Leaguers overseas, guys Lucky's in particular being at the same level of them or late-round pick and Johnson. Right around picking sharife Cooper, who looks like he fit, right? In with all these guys. So, my name is game. This is all no one start at stood out for me. That's the thing. Let me so you. If they don't dominate in an obvious way, then you're looking Yeah, you looking for things to point out and grass through here I think and I don't know what your Joe Sway and Jimmy saw it out there but the one thing I'll give Romeo is that the passing does look a little better. Some turnovers here. But you know you can deal with turnovers and trying things and you know taking some risk and failing and summer league ultimately Pritchard my bag Target, it looks amazing. I was just going off while you were about to say June Romeo or flashes, okay? In addition, once you pulled back his hair, he hit all his threes and the recent good. The passing look good. And the passing look good in the ball-handling look good. He just didn't look like he was locked in every month to me. Nesmith still looks like it. A shop sort of Guy where like great energy is great. But at certain point you want to dial back that energy and have a little bit more refinement to his game. I'm still not seeing that. I would have liked to see him a little bit more. I want to quit the game, slowed down for him. I don't like a Vegas Summer. League game going too fast for Nesmith. Yeah, charge the shot down late last year. Yeah, I still looks still running around like a crazy guy. Yeah, absolutely. Like he's so surprised when somebody's there he turns around and slams into a guy gets called for a foul. What are you doing here? I'm like it's basketball. There's guys everywhere. Dude right after the other thing is, the other thing is, it's the first Summer League game. Like I don't want to get too high or too low about any of these performances. I'd like to, you know, take a overview look of the summer league. Once, you know, there's a few more games that are played, but I just wasn't like, Like you guys are wasn't like Head Over Heels, like pumped about, you know, anybody any of the current like rosters Celtics, guys didn't really like, wow, me today, which I was I was hoping to get maybe a couple of wild thoughts a couple of wow factors in, but you know, bright spot would be for sure who, young know. Yeah. But but I'm talking about like, I'm not even on the nice. Yeah, exactly. Talking about the guys are on the roster Like Richard Nesmith, basically Pritchard Nesmith Romeo Richard did hit those shots. Yet that deep shot from like the right in front of the logo. They're so kind of came on a little bit odd 3-pointer but didn't really like, like Bobby alluded to. It didn't really do a whole lot inside that ARC today. I don't know, a little bit of a mixed. I feel like I made a point to talk shows distance a bit like you've been working. Yeah, yeah. Totally. I mean, which hey, that's good. I mean obviously gotta be able to hit those 30 Footers so I like that. Even if it's coming off the bench, I think that change. Things. Are they at least adds up a valuable weapon for for a result example. This is my biggest frustration. I said this, you guys during the game it doesn't look like yawns that far off from earnings a minute. If that's the level that the core guy from last year at and this is the level he's at coming in again. You don't want to overreact a one-game is Jimmy said there, but there's just such an opening among the young core on the track team. That also reminds me of something I said at the end of last season. If you see some guys out there that maybe have some upside beyond what Romeo and Pritchard and some of these other guys have this point, maybe just swap them at this point. You just over the tax. So the tax isn't a concern. You know, you're not married to any of these guys ultimately. So if you really like someone over Carson in particular, as you guys throw around, like, all right who cares about what God is doing. They so could I guess but up until now they haven't swapped out Carson for another young player that maybe would fit in better with what they're trying to do here and have some long-term upside or just bring some Amitabh. It needs to this team right now. Like there were quite a number of guys around the NBA and I guess Chris Don could be an example of this that you buy into hope that there's still some upside there. And give them the opportunities that the Celtics team is going to have because if Nesmith, Lankford, Richard all these guys don't have a ceiling and you're about to spend a whole year, given them a bunch of minutes, then this year becomes even more of a way. So I don't I just wasn't Blown Away by anything. These guys did out there, I was with John like Langford. Nesmith look exactly the same as they did last year and the same as like it's again, it's you look around the Palm Court you'd be like, right? You just want to see like, oh, that all you need is one or two things where it stands up. You know, who that guy? Yeah. Look what that guy. You can tell you is a lottery pick or something. You know, you could see the thing that makes the difference there. And again you'll, excuse it for first-year players when they're erratic, but you look for those flashes. But again, a player like Romeo who's in year, three and Nesmith, you're too. And I know neither of them have had the benefit of any of them. Offseason. But you're right you do want to see, like, I'm going to throw me as a 3-year Envy, you know, a third year NBA veteran. Despite the fact he hasn't played definitely want to see him play with a little bit more, but that's the thing is, I honestly thing for him, he's like again, right? Or wrong. He does have this vibe that it's not beneath him, but he's kind of like, yeah. You know, he's not taking it seriously, in the sense of like improving to the organization should here at Vegas League, that I belong. You know, this isn't like playing for my roster spot. I still think he's going to prove himself more in practice and you know, training camp and exhibition season wage and into the into the season. Where like he might take that a bit more seriously. And this is kind of like I'm just staying loose and scrimmaging here. So like while our expectations are we're dying to see Romeo. Take that next level. Don't know that he's approaching Vegas summer league with that level of the same level of urgency have a lot of fans and analysts that's my and again, it's not just a, it's not just excuse-making. I really think that that's his mentality, I don't think he's dead. Well, it's the wrong mentality but we're but the thing is maybe it like what they might say that, this is part of your training, just get loose, just go out there. You know, have fun. Just get off at here. No, he's not playing for a spot media. Exactly. Just get loose but but also fit in. Right. I think that's what he's sort of that's gotta be as approach because at the end of the day you want to show that you could fit with these guys and that you're dead. You're an asset moving forward. But at the same time, he knows if he doesn't, if he does anything outside of scoring twenty points or going off, no one sort of going to be like, oh, well, look at that kid Romeo, he's really got it, you know. So I I, I think like, you might still stink. I'm just not like a for him. I will get yeah, yeah. Well no, yeah, I guess I got you. He's trying to fit in but the same time I don't think he has the mindset of being like I gotta go out there and crush it. The same wage like Yama is because he feels like a lot more is at stake and and there is right for someone with him. Right now there there's there is more like for young to prove I guess in the fact that he's you know coming from overseas. And he doesn't have a spot on the roster then or even Richard, like I feel like has a little more to prove, you know? Yeah, definitely. But I think I mean, at the end of the day before, I don't agree, people here want to see him aggressive and that's what I want to say. Like, at the end of day, these guys are all competitors athletes, you know, they've been playing competitive basketball since they, you know, they can remember, I can't imagine, they're going out there just be like, Oh, I'm just going to go on cruise control. Like, I mean, if if you're if you're Romeo yeah, you're going into your third year, but the first years were a waste trash god, you know, whatever you want to call it. I mean, you have the, the covid-19 and his rookie year, and you barely played, and he was hurt, and then year or two, I mean, people literally thought he may have died cuz they didn't see him for like the first half of the season. I mean, this guy wage is about the most unexperienced third-year player probably in the NBA so it's not like he should feel like he's learned anything. So, if I'm Romy, I want to go out there and be like, yeah, I don't belong in the summer league team because wage This is how good I am when I'm fully healthy. And here I got me about to go, you know, Murder these dudes on the other team and instead it's just kind of like up and down. Yeah. And in Credit to hit the shot, don't get me wrong. I mean, he did his a game, winning shots. So, you know, we can't can't hate on him and not mention that. But it's just the fact that you just so kind of nonchalant out there. It's funny like we can't win, right? We're sitting here dead bottling Romeo and he hit the game-winning shot. If we, if this were a regular season game ROM, you hit the game-winning shot and we spent the whole day killing him. The chat would be like, guys. Hit the game-winner, what with you? You know, it's just not about the, yeah, that's that's why it is fun. And that's why I like I don't want to not mention it but it's it's it's almost like, yeah, if you just looked at the box score, if you just watch the highlights, they go Romeo play pretty well but it's like he's just kind of. He was just kind of like another guy out there, right? I mean, did he really do anything that really stood out to you in the, in the moment? We're like this guy. Definitely you can you can tell he's a third-year NBA player and you know he's going to be dead. You having like, you know, twenty-plus minute a game role in this team like I just didn't get that from any watching. Anybody, you know, nesmith's certainly 148. Was it from 3. I mean, the guy that you drafted to be a shooter Johnson, they're telling me that doesn't care if he gets a shot. I mean, that's literally, his job is to hit, hit those shots, not don't care, but if he was to me, it for nice man. So absolutely, but to me for Nesmith, I want to see where that he knows where he is on the court way more than I want to see the shots go down like it's great when the shots go down but Carson hit shots I don't care. I want to see him like coming off, clear, catche shoot. All of us have some Court awareness package, just some Court awareness. I want to see him get two spots, get that get that clean look and just make it easy. He's one of the most effortful players I've ever seen. Everything is so hard. He makes you know, some people like make it look effortless. We spent about Tatum and brown the first come first, like couple of years or like it just feels like it's so this. Yeah. Well he's trying he's trying so hard job. It looks so hard. Like you know, there's very little fluidity and natural stuff where it's just. Boom boom. Boom in like oh that was butter. You know, like everything is a bit of a you know, cuz he's just so you know, took over the place. That's what I want to see Jerry. And yeah, like yeah, that is the problem. You have with this team to some degree is that it's a lot of guys like that, who need to be set up, aren't exactly the best to get into their spots themselves and dribbling themselves shots and all those different things. That's actually what stood out about him is that he kind of got to the places he wanted to on the floor, was able to set some other guys up, make some nice passes. He had a gun left hand to show from the low post area in terms of Prichard. I know people are going crazy about his game, but he's actually the guy in terms of the focus of what the Celtics wanted to get out of him here in summer league. They don't care about him scoring 23 points. We know he can do that, you need to connect this. All a little bit more, you know, make some plays for his teammates, I know you had five assists but overall was an amazing playmaking game from him. For me, you know he was dead. Doing a ton of pick-and-roll, he wasn't getting in the basket, I don't think he hit a single shot inside the ark. It's so pick-and-roll was a area of the game where he really struggled last year. He wasn't getting why he couldn't be a starter other guys were out. So even with him in a good game scoring wise, she didn't see the kind of strides in areas but they need to him to improve. I was saying that he was whoever is being guarded by, for most of the first three quarters of the game, wasn't any attempt to kind of shake them or get into the lane, you know, and and kind of, you know, you know, even just to drive and Dish there he was getting cut off pretty easily. He was not able to, you know, turn the corner on anybody. So I actually thought he looked a tad slow and again they really shoot though and we have the shooting is you know again insane because if he's you know he's he's adding a little Lillard to his game and he took it back and I mean he took some deep through his last year. I mean it took a couple inside the logo today so that's the thing that's a real thing. But I do want to see him be able to get around people get into that lane, you know, through all those lobs. Work the pick-and-roll a little bit. I didn't think he was outstanding there either. So, again, you're looking, you're, I don't want to over react to a lot of points from one any more than we do to a few points from another, you know, God. Yeah. That what I want to say, people are here asking in a chance, we'll talk a little bit more about this game and, you know, we will as well address, a few other things going on with the team, Marcus Smart. In his contract, extension Fournier, some Kemba Walker stuff. Dennis, Cantor shrewder. So there's a few team related things to talk about. But I, you guys other observations here, we did get to see the second round pick a little. And so, I mean again first time ever would, you know Impressions I can. Yeah he's definitely going to shooting for to him which I wasn't, you're not sure cuz usually the athletic guys who break out and do a ton of transition and I really like first heavy, he catches logs and all that kind of stuff you would expect those guys to have shooting floors at eighteen but his shot looks good. He we've been shoot a great percentage in France last year but the form looks good. He had two in a row in the corner and open a good Rhythm. Did have a great game overall. Hit the side of the backboard on another one but the first couple of work would have an overall, it's a 244 game from three defense like that was a nice area where you know the senior wrote a lot about his game. It's shocking with his tools how shaky he is on defense. He really got shoved inside and you know couldn't body-wise stay in front of guys, are driving into the rim so like I don't know there's there's a long way to go for his game to reach NBA level it looks like but there's a few things you like the physique and the shooting for its dead. So surprising how big he was, right? Yeah. Is it NBA size? I would say the only thing was I mean the whole thing that he was basically taught price guys. You know. I want to play on the team's. I want to prove that I could you know, wrote this. I was in a like it didn't sound like you and you know, there's a little bit of a language barrier there with that presser. But he didn't sound like, he wants to be stashed, that didn't seem like something he's interested in. Yeah, but I would say, Jose on top of that, I didn't feel like this guy didn't belong on the court. So I mean I guess that's a good thing. He kind of proved that he can you know roll with this level of of you know skill I guess you could say some early type players. So I mean a second-round, you know, took a stab out of, you know, we'll see where it goes. I really don't have a whole lot to say on on him, but like Bobby said, you know, get those two shots and, you know, got a little size to him. Mm, I thought when he was trying to convey the most throughout that press conference was that he has some versatility was game, but people we would look best at least in this first outing was wage. I shot. It just looked really comfortable out there and it's a shy, this technique and that that, you know, guy you can rely on the corner. Obviously, he's raw. And it's still too early to say, if that's going to be consistent. But I think he stood out the most When mind and playing in Maine, if he wants to, you know, there's more money overseas but if you want to be closer and have some opportunities to come up and certain points in the season, and wouldn't be the worst thing in the world that yet to waste spot open. Not a ton of playing time and that two-way deal really doesn't pay you much. I think it's 77,000 base pay. So he may just end up saying, all right, I'll I'll go back to Paris. Maybe playing that perversion cuz he was only in the second division and France. So that's probably what you want to see out of him as him, go back there and play at the highest level and really show something. But he has risen quite quickly through the ranks in terms of like tournaments and different things that he's done overseas. He's eighteen and to have this kind of build, it eighteen is really impressive. You don't see many, like, young prospects have this kind of frame, so I don't know, he's justify or 45 and if it works, it works. It doesn't, it does. And then there was some good returns here. I'd say in the first game. Yeah, I was fine. So what do we got? We got Tuesday now. Yeah, program mode is what time is it a day game? Yeah, I think it's might be a 7. So, okay. Okay. Program note Bobby Manning heading out there to cover summer league for clns. Me, assure you there right now. Sharad may join us. He's in some interviews right now, but he does want to jump on the show. So we'll get his take from being down there, you know, from having a, you know, Courtside view home of the game and the action and get his insights. We will definitely revisit the game again, and, and get some more thoughts from Sherrod, once he joins. But let's, let's get into some of the other one. Takes Vegas. Huh? Box doing it? Wow. You nervous. Real nervous dude? Yeah, for sure it's it's going to be a lot but I really want to do it. I'm excited to, you know, don't say that often think they should you should be nervous. It's a very isn't Vegas. Is it's if you've never been, it's like fake life over there, you walk down the street. Like this is America. Strangest thing in the world like your home clipping coupons deciding what like and buying the mac and cheese of $0.30 cheaper than the other one. And then you go there and you just like in three of these twenty-five, right? Or five of them down and you're just flip it. It means nothing, you know, like you won't you won't eat at a restaurant because it's too expensive and you go to a steakhouse there and you spend $355 on a meal in your right what did I just do? You know like it's just funny money? It's bizarre, an additional thing is crazy. Stay in the arena you'll end up in a beach club. Now you end up in a better Beach Club at some point or another and all of that stuff. Yeah looking for me, in Serato there I'll be a killer combo danger. I was at I was I was there once for some early and I was home. I rolled up to a craps table and I didn't realize that until I looked at everybody who was there and Kenneth Faried was at the table and he was at like I was at like the $5 table and he was at like the $5 table, he was actually like getting a job. Just about like losing, like, little hands. This is on his rookie, his rookie year, I think so. This is a while back and now, I'm sure he's at different tables now, but others were here was that. Yeah, this is like some early as before. It's a big deal early on his card. Looking at Tatum and brown. Apparently, you're going to be spending much of this. Body's they hang out. Once every 365 days were the best of friends? Do you guys? I got people I get people the Enemy being like you guys are you know, you guys say they weren't friends, like this was the ultimate Advantage photo ID. I'll say this. And then we'll move on the people out there, taking a Victory lap and tweeting out this photo and saying, see the same idiots that friggin posted screencaps of Kyrie Off the Bench to be like, hate each other. Okay? So just don't know anymore. You don't know any more than anyone else. Knows something. All right. Hey, I'm glad to see them support page. Florida Gulf War, but don't make it seem like they'll give us a see you guys. They they're great friends, give right? Just pump the brakes on that. Like the honestly the subject broadcast Celtics, broadcast Play the song, played it. Well, I thought they were like, look, they're not the best friends. We know this. They're wildly different people, they don't hang out a lot, but they respect each other, that's literally it. Like, that's that's the actual story. That's my opinion. In my opinion, this is this is email form of bonding a group text message and be like, hey guys, you guys don't do this, don't do that as like, all right code. And we're just like, you're in a group chat already, so just like, yeah. All right, sounds good. Like, that's a great Point. Joe swag cuz those those those congratulation tweets from Brown and smart kind of came out in Rapid succession, you know, they were just like one after another like around the same time. It wasn't like you know seems to insert player named. Yeah. You know what does it was? Good job. Around show up at the summer league game today to, you know, he's supporting his teammates. So that's a leadership that you might do say no, I think what Joe sway said, there's very important, I do think that could be moving into thinking behind the scenes to try to change that narrative a little bit but there's some division here within the room just show, right. But it's not even division just show support, like just North, show it outward, like front-facing stuff matters, you know, like, Joe support show that your United please back, do it on the court, doing with your tweets, do it with everything and all of that stuff like you should do that. That's the whole thing is we're not looking for clues of like faith in each other. There's just no clues of liking each other not enough. That stuff is so easy to do. Even if you don't mean it, like that stuff, that stuff should be just part of like, the pr campaign, guys, do all of these things cuz it's got to look good and also it's it's a good message to your teammates when you showed they're looking up to you guys, right? You know, I think my opinion, know what's going to happen to me today, cell phone. Fried show some Celtics price. Thank you so much to say we love it here, this is Boston, we believe in this organization, maybe not to that extent, but just say, hey, know to that extent literally took Celtics Pride. We're coming back or upset about a first-round knockout. You know, a lot of things happened last year that you guys don't understand. And we're going to prove to you all that. We're one of the top teams in East though, that was, that was my bigger concern is not, not new Tatum Brown liking each other, is Taylor Brown, liking the Celtics organization. That's what I really care about like, cuz it didn't feel like, it didn't feel like anybody was in, was interesting organization at the end of last season, like from the, from the president down to the, you know, last guy on the roster. So that's what I'm looking for. I'm not really looking for like, did they have a sleepover? I want to know if they actually like both of the Celtics social media. But two things, love the Celtics love playing with each other. Nobody if they're best buddies, but you want. Yep. Want to believe that Tatum doesn't want to unlink from Brown and vice versa for their careers because they they've you like these two is like, we're that we're the unit that you're going to come. Join them to start. Kind of looking elsewhere. That's all you want. You want them to be tied together the whole time. That's the number one. Most important thing, it doesn't matter. Stephen Clay, if they're best buddies, you just want them joined, you know, in whatever way possible. You want to hear them? Say it like this guy and me, me, and this guy together, blah, blah blah. We would do all of this stuff. That's the most important thing by far. It doesn't, they need to take pictures of the club. It doesn't matter like you just want them to want to play with each other, for the rest of their careers. And ideally you want to see it here. So it's great, it's one table, you know, this is same, let's plug table every it's great that in a while, you know, each other over once a while, it's great that Tatum, you know, Team USA won the gold and Tatum was a big part of that. And, but this is a little sliver mean, it's it's, it's like dead. Like, it's not really a Celtics thing. It's it's a, it's a, it's a country thing, and it's all star bodies, exactly. It's kind of I want in a represent, the Celtics like with that win, but I know it's not that easy. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay. So let's move on. Now, we got that out of the way. Yeah, but that cracked me up. I quit, I was like three, two one, tweet tweet, tweet, tweet tweet. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, took some heat did, I was just going to say that a good ministers. Have a probably mowing his lawn, having a little Sunday and bring it, you know, like so funny. Yeah, he's ready for it off. Let's throw this one out here. This happened during the week which was just perplexing City. We spent. So this is our first broadcast. It's free agency in which job. The Celtics did nothing. Still haven't decided Canter. We have they talking about that. We have to do is a little section on that will get. We can get the kids are, but see that contract, not bad. That's fine. But, you know, I mean, look and Bobby's pointed this out. It's frigging ridiculous that they got rid of Cantor. All right, well, you can't her now, I mean it's ridiculous that they got rid of him to bring in Thompson, only to get rid of Thompson to bring the Cantor back, but it's absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention, everyone is so silly looking signing forgetting if it works, they never played cancer. When he was on the team were, I think it was maybe me and John were like, why isn't cancer? Get in there? And like, involve you would say, oh well cuz you can't believe it's, you can't but defense. Well guess what? He wants my but he can still grab 15 boards. So like I would never play with guys, you know, like there has to be an insurance policy on rob, you know, obviously, yeah, it's not ideal that has cancer, but at least it's somebody that they know could fit know this time off. With different groups and rebating, you know, he's got rid of know for nothing and and they need a dumb question. It's just a body. It's a body, they needed another. If they lose, mowing that game, I don't know if they if they still can't figure it out. Yeah. None of this makes sense. Not, there's all right. So, that's where I disagree. He's in a different role this time. He's making a million bucks and he's not going to play. That's the point. Jimmy, he does. If all goes, well, he doesn't play. He's Adept, big, who needs steps in? If a guy's hair, takes a night off, maybe there's a matchup thing here there that he can give you a name to start. Yeah, it's a pretty quality third big man. When it comes down to it, I know people are thrown up the big numbers in Portland. Last year, you saw Portland how it looks really. So you spun the wheel is closed for a year waiting for him to come back. Not even a year, nine months ago. They dumped him with the pick like in terms of real time here and now he's back while dumping Thompson. Who dead? Supposedly were supposed to be the upgrade on Canter so that's where it looks silly. Now I get it also that you want a one-year guy and pretty much everybody in this market went for two years. So this is probably the best available player. Who would take one year in short money? It just happens to be the guy that you dumped with Desmond Bane nine months ago. So that's why the team has to at least, look at any knowledge, our life. Like if we're going to have an opening press conference to this guy in waves a flag, it's going to look a little weird here. Yeah, right. Cancer is a WWE Champion. Yeah, I left. I generally like Hannah. John does to we are supposed. It's just yeah, you hate me. You hate a Canter. So don't even start. I like him in this role. We have the receipts. We have all the receipts last time. He was robbed wasn't really playing, right? Jimmy's favorite stat is what? Jimmy Jimmy loves p e. R where was he was Cantor league-wide in p e, r last year, can anyone guess her line he was way he'll up there 20th. I was going to say 15 you go, I think two years and Bob and Bobby says that he's not going to know. The point is the point of him is to not play him, but he likes him. The point of him always was down again. We argued this last year, I mean it was, Tristan was a, Tristan was the Bizarro Cantor he can rebound, he can rebound, but he's atrocious can rebound defend, but atrocious at offense and in Canter can rebound. Both both sides are both. Good offensive rebounds, both good defense agreements. He can he can rebound score but he's friggin atrocious. A defense Canter is exactly what we thought he was. Tristan, was not that was the problem. If Tristan defended like Cantor played offense, that would have been still a good signing a valuable piece. He just sucked sucked it. Everything. And so that was the problem is you were basically flopping offense for defense but roughly the same player last year which didn't make sense to me to sell one off for parts and make your big splash Cantor in with the TV. Cuz that was really odd. You had that was all the flexibility you had was that thing but who knows. It turns out everybody grabbed, you know, with mid levels and whatever last year didn't really work. So oh, hold on, I think Sharad is here he is. I'm going to send you that message is off. Oh yeah, perfect good good like relatively cool spot in Vegas is like, literally, right here is 96° at 10:00 in the morning. Are you freaking kidding me off and for, for a guy like Sharad, you know, that that doesn't bode? Well, I would say, I probably spent the first, the first when she read. And I worked together at NBC. I spent the first year, get him in a towel to jump at a little bit here. Exactly, you know, you know, you know me, I think third Spirit. You're gonna have to Pat that down, buddy. Second surgery, birth. And second show you guys were out there for you know, when I bought a third one just figured. I remember you guys had like these like bright home. I forget what year was, it was some early. I was like, hey, it must be hot out there that you guys have to go with the right. Yeah, that's true. Oh God. He's going to give us something from the game today. We we we just came off the game. We started talking free agency stuff but what were some of your observations. They're your your top takeaways from Thursday from the some of the game. Well, I think the one thing that everyone is going to talk about is obviously the way Ian play. He was really good. But what we learned in a post-game was that all the players had basically their plans for each individual plans for them to execute and some early and yum did exactly what they're hoping for. Just be a guy that could come in there. Bring energy of really make his presence felt and business didn't necessarily need to score to do Thursday. He was obviously that the star of the show I thought, you know, Romeo. After I thought a really slow start, he delivered when it mattered most. And that was one of the things that coach was talked about afterwards that, you know, they wanted to get Romeo Must do a better job of making the most of his shot attempts when opportunities present themselves. And obviously right there down a stretch, big shot that he had not only in terms of the game's outcome but I think more for his confidence cuz I mean really needs to get in the habit of making wide open or lightly contested shots. When it's the shot clock is winding down or the end of the game because you just never know if the Celtics are swinging the ball whether it'll wind up in his hands in those situations. Yeah, it's a meteorite I felt like he was forcing the issue but in the first half you know there was some shots with the ball is moving around. He was sort of like behind the arc. Port Saint, I gotta shoot it. Did you feel like that was a month throughout? And but then, of course, the second half, you settle down a bit more, especially on the offensive end. You know, I think some of that is true, but I think also part of the problem or the issue is that there was so many other guy's dead. That they're trying to get a look at and they kind of know who Romeo isn't, it? They really have very specific things. They need him to get better at and I do think he was forced into a little bit, but again, to me, it always comes down to what do you do when the game is most? What are you able to deliver in that critical pivotal moment? And he was able to come through safely for paying pretty sure. Cuz Hey, Patricia was the one that had a great pass, you know, two of them set that shot up and took another guy that got was much better in the second half. Then he was in a first. Let me ask you got to focus. What, what is Romeo's? Focus? I know they talked about using it more as a primary dog handler this year and you did see some, there are some times where it looked like you had a bit of a loose dribble and there are other times where he was able to get into the lane and make some things happen. So a mixed bag in terms of that front but like I have an idea of what each of these guys marching orders was like, what is Romeo's Mission, cuz we talked about, like, who is Romeo's? Marching orders? Yeah, cuz at home, you want to see at home? The reaction is at the beginning, wage. We want to see the guys like Romeo Nesmith dominate. You know, because you want to see that there are Level above these guys and in the Vegas League because they're going to be asked upon to be rotation players. But if they have specific jobs to do a specific roles that changes the context of of evaluating their performance. So what is it, you think they most want to work on with Romeo? Well, with Romeo, I think, as I just said him making open shots because if if Tazo Tatum and brown are doing the things that we expecting to do, that's going to create opportunities for guys like Romeo who are in the floor to make shots that are wide open. And so for him, that I think is one of the primary things looking to do, but more than anything else, you know, you tell you touched on it a second ago. He does have what I would consider a little bit of a loose dribble and I think he needs to tighten that up a bit. And I think that's something that they're certainly looking to work on. Not only in the summer, but also back in pre-season training camp. But as far as Romans concerned, I mean, I think they for this first game in summer league, he did for the most part. What they were hoping that he would get accomplished and to me again, that wage Gravity hits at the very end goals of the kind of shots that we just Romeo wouldn't either not be on the floor and that moment, or he'd be on the floor and nowhere near the ball. So he needs to become more comfortable and not just taking that job. So making anything that today. What about me Smith? What your impressions there? You know, and again, just to share what we said on the front, end our Vibe again with Nesmith. He still looks bullet. A china shop ish at a game and playing in a game. There you wouldn't expect you under, you understand, NBA with no training, camp coming out of half a season at college to be too fast. And you were explained, why he was running around and he looked lost and crazy at times last year, effort was there, but he was all over the map. You don't expect to see him. Carry that play over into a in the, in the summer league and he did kind of look like the same guy. Yeah, I'm hoping that this was just, you know, just one of those games for him and that he will get better as we go along the summer cuz you're right. Yep. Exactly like what we saw in a regular season and that's not good. That is not good. That, that doesn't give the sofas, what they're going to need from him. They're going to need him to make shots, but he did not do a good job over there. Going to need him to make plays, not just hustle plays, but like under control hustle plays, he's great energy wise but he does seem to be a bit out of control and it felt that way for long stretches and in this game. So he needs really, that's part of what his I think. Plan going forward is to refine that energy and effort, folks it so that he's making plays that make the team better, not just making plays because they're effortless. Because we all know every effort play is not a good one, right? You want to see if you down. Right guys. Questions for Sharad. Yeah, I was going to go the young Direction, so yeah, I'm still not on the roster. Saw some flashes today. I honestly thought as a Creator, which is what they wanted Pritchard to kind of show out here in the summer league. He took better in that capacity than Richard did Even though portrayed a good shooting game. So to you, is there a chance that young could have a not only a roster spot here, but a real role on this team next year, I'm going home. I don't think that he's going to have a real role with the team. This was a great start, great start, but I still think that his size. And now I'm talking about life. I'm just talking about this physical Dimension, he's a guy, I don't think that's going to help him. In fact, it will be more of a detriment. If anything, once you get your garden, you have to go go against guys like Marcus Smart guys. Like, you know, even with your Steph Curry, you know, could could play bully ball with him? I think at this point chances. Yeah. So I think that that's going to keep him from you know, really having a significant role. But yes, this understanding of the game IQ. That is awesome. It's legit. I mean, he he did this one movie and, and, you know, it's it's so subtle that I know the coaches will probably point this out but the average fan is just didn't make sense and you would not pick up on it. He gave this like jab-step like he was going to set a screen and he just pulled back towards the Baseline. They passed in a book, he had a wide-open baseline jumper, that's something that coaches can't cope with. It is something that you as a basketball player have an IQ for that or you don't little things like that. I think are going to help him make the roster but again I don't think he's I just don't think physically speaking. He's going to be able to make much of an impact and that's the thing cuz he's obviously he's a 94 foot player, you know, like he's there he pesters you, he wants to get up on the ball handlers but you saw it a couple of times, you know, he came up against his brain and it was bowing, you know, like it's definitely the and I'm just talking not even full-contact on it. Just brushing up against bodies and he gets knocked off his stride. He definitely needs to you know, it's more of that man's strength. No right now, right? And I would, I would love for him to be where he could get that experience. Even work with the Celtics, he could be up in Maine and going back and forth and just gradually, physically, get get bigger and do that within the confines of the Celtics system. And I think that to me that that's one of my biggest draws to him being having one of those roster spots is that he gives you someone that you can literally divorced from a basketball standpoint. I don't think you have to do much take with that, but he physically has to get stronger and you can control that if you're the Celtics much better than you can. If he's here. Then if he's overseas, I thought he can ball, man. Any other take away the people, you talked to any insights, whether it be for this game, did you get to talk to email as well? No, I'm not even going to get into Iraq. How the interview. It's, it's very different this summer league that we've done in previous years. And I'm not going to get into that because I'm I'm in, I'm right now, I'm going to put in effect, my received wage Both teams played hard Mantra. That was no response. What's going on with that? Took a lot of Traders, hold on. Okay I can't just lose in a smart-ass. I know I have a question of more about the game and and the roster but God it feels like painting pictures going to have a bigger older season obviously based on the fact that Kemba Walker's gone and whatever are you sensing that? He sort of Taken on a little bit of a leadership role with this summer league team and do you get you get the sense that they're really trying to work him up into a into a bigger role heading into the season here. I don't paint this working himself up into a bigger role for this upcoming season. I think he understands that when he looks Iraq just aren't that many Playmakers on his roster. He's that's what he does. And you know, we talked to him post game and one of the things he did touch on a little bit, was that in those late game, type situations, he's been dead. Any of those and at Oregon, and even before that. And so there's a comfort level that he has in those moments. Where he knows that if the shot is there, he's going to take it. If the past is there, he's going to take it. His whole thing is, I need to make the right decision in those moments and that's what this summer league is about for him. You know, the play that he made for Romeo. He could have easily forced the action to try to go to the whole and, and do something to get his own shot, but he recognized that I can draw, the defense tumne Romeo can be wide open. I'm going to trust my teammate to make the shot and those are the moments that he has to amplify in some of the he has to consistently bring that type of thought to the game and I think you will that's the thing with Richard. What's interesting is you know, you get me bring them in here and you're like, all right, you should be the back, you know, back up point guard, you want to see them, run the point run the offense but really what he is is it's just first and foremost and that's his number one thing. And right, you want to see a make the right play, but he really is a guy who I see coming off the bench. And basically you want to see him shoot five, six, seven times a day. Stint. You want to see him go out there, try to get hot and try to do the things. It's almost kind of what you thought. Carson Edwards might be if his, if his, if he translated to the NBA level. But that's that's kind of what Pritchard really is. Here is go home or go shoot, go be the guy like him, shoot unit and score a bunch. And the thing about him is that because he has been, you know, he's played for a number of years is pretty good. Kind of a competition. He understands the value of decision making like he understands that yes I can score. Yes, I can pass. But sometimes I need to pick one or the other and I think a lot you look at a guy like Carson dead. He's looking to get Buckets. I mean that's just who he is. And and again for me and I think a lot of people, it's kind of frustrating at times when you can make a great pass or you could take a decent but not so great shots. And he's more times than not. He's going to take that damn shot. Yeah, that's like my biggest worry. And we were talking about before you came on girod, is that all right, if this was a year ago and you had a little more wage After even two years ago where you had much more depth, you wouldn't be relying on these guys this year. But for Pritchard, he's the backup point guard behind smart, he's gotta be trusted with decision. Making it nice sort of things, Romeo's off, you know, rotation wing and write down the list here, with all these guys, they essentially backups. All three of these core guys that are playing here, so I don't know. Like to me, it just didn't look like there's enough separation to show you that like, all right, these guys are ready for big-time NBA roles and solid rotation spots cuz they're not even separated much from this class of G league, players, and rookies down there in Vegas. Right now, it wasn't a great sense of Separation. I mean, did you see that too? Yeah, I mean, it's it's close. But, you know, it's, it's one game, so you can't put too much stock in in one way or the other, whether they drop forty or they drop for wage. Yeah, I I I think that there was enough signs that indicate that painting furniture, for example, is looking to be more of a playmaker and he's he's he's working his jump shot and I am And she probably took a few too many jump shots early on. I didn't like, I thought he was just kind of Chuck and if they're in the first step is he a little too big, a little too big for what seemed a little a little too stocky and and a little slow. I thought I don't know if it's he's still playing his way into shape. He didn't look he definitely didn't look like he had vacations. Didn't look that great didn't look like get a great first step, you know, wasn't able to really kind of shake anybody off the dribble sausages at Fenway Park. He did people forget, I mean, he did drive a bit last not forget. But I mean, you know, he would take it to the hole here. Look like you could get there, he definitely settled on his jumper but he looked a little I want to say chunky but he looked stocky and like maybe a shade slower than I remember him. Yeah, he he didn't look like he was in the greatest of shape. Okay. From what we saw, I've tried it, I wouldn't put him in a John Bagley category of he's not there. You know who's been going on, I can't be mad at, you know, we're in the middle of August, I mean, you just finished a damn season. Now they want you to start playing back up again with no real doubt. I think you'll be fine this damn this year round job that they're asking me to do. Yeah, I'm more concerned with his decision-making cuz I think the body that that's going to come in time. I'm not worried about his decision, making that I need to see him continue to get better. And I thought today's game was a good start in that direction. Love the Bagley reference love the string of outstanding point guards that I was. We were founded to if you grew up in this area badly, Michael Adams, Dana Barros, it just kept going but back Cana Paris Anderson. I love, Kenny Anderson. Yeah, off any. But a selfish prick, the other day, a throwback Candy loves the Celtics, man, you done any throw up, a throwback pic of him and Anna Celtics warm up from like an old practice and he was Georgia Tech Ramblin wreck. Yeah. So, let me any anything else here on the game before we switch to some of the offseason stuff cuz I want your rod and everybody else's take on that two guys. Anything more here. I'm done with this game, that's about it. I will see you on Tuesday off the game sharrod. And Bobby in the house on Tuesday, we will bring you more, postgame action from there so that should be good. But let's switch gears. We didn't want to talk about the markets. When we talked a little about this area is Hyannis. Can we say Saturday's that? That's the extent of Celtics free agency talk right there. We want to talk about the Marcus Smart thing, okay. Because so you know, when we were saying, when we started here is really we did a show last week free agency, they did nothing outside of that Cantor siding. We got sidetracked talking about cancer, but the point being is the idea. Everybody seemed to think was dead. Okay, clearly saving money, they're not going to spend a freaking nickel and they're just going to save it up so they can make a move for Bale or whomever next offseason. And that's that. And the idea is they're not going to page and smart. They're going to renounce Rob. Hey, they might even trade smart, there's a report out there that Brad's done with them, and all of this, and then bang out of nowhere, Celtics offering smart the max, you know, whatever Mac sauce, and they can offer him right now, 477. I don't understand this. I don't understand how it works with the rest of their offseason plans, though. I guess, maybe you're saying they had your little. They gotta have something here in case. I can't get anything next offseason maybe they think it's a tradable contract. So they're not worried about taking it on but I don't understand how you do this and you don't re-sign Fournier. I don't think Fournier was that much money. Truth be told at the end of the day, I think that contract was a huge Albatross either. So I don't understand the plan. Sure. Do you have any first off? What do you think's going on here with Marcus and to do, you understand what the Celtics are doing? Well, let me just start with Marcus. I think. Yep. Celtics are realizing that, you know, Marcus he's the best you got and maybe are well, become the best, you can get. And so, rather than risk losing that and getting nothing in return, which is very Posh. You try to put together a deal that I think he's coming from and frankly with the salary cap growing up. So, early next year, that contract isn't going to be nearly as much of an albatross a year from now, then it would be right now and because of that job because of that, he becomes someone that, if you're looking to move him, it becomes a lot easier because the money is much more movable than that page. Thirteen million a technician is right now at that, that kind of money, you're not going to get anything remotely close to fair market, value, or even. A deal. And so his contract it benefits him financially if he benefits herself too because it does become a little bit more movable. I think going forward as far as getting something of a comparable value in return home and and again it goes to me, I just I don't think they're convinced that they're going to get something better than that on the fridge of Market. Yeah, I think it does a variety of different things here. Obviously, it placates him and his role in the team that we've talked about, you know, he's, he's gotta get expiring contract. And there's all this look ahead to next year and video and whatever that does kind of undermine a spot on the team in the short-term and long-term. So it'd be a benefit to that. We all knew that the squeeze to get iPlayer like Bo and free agency would be so tight that you'd lose numerous players. So you probably want to set up a trade and sign and trade or even a midseason trade, if you're going to go that route rather than just cutting the roster and trying to squeeze in a salary. Cuz then you don't have any cap, hold your own need to bring it by a significant salary. So it makes sense in that regard to their question is is if you don't get billed and if all of a sudden you just hedging against smarts long-term standing on the team is a core smart, Tatum and brown going forward, gonna be something that improves a gross together cuz you know, I think we've kind of seen what smart is as a player at this point. I don't think there's a whole Water outside. So when you give it a guy raised, when you give a guy extension, if your intent is to keep them here and you're paying them or you want to see a guy like that, get better. And I'm not necessarily sure that's still a ton of upside as far as game. Despite this incredible start to spray that we've seen any other things. You gotta keep in mind is that we don't know if that contract is fully guaranteed right page and to me, that would be the main reason why a guy like Marcus would hesitate to sign something like that. Because if it's worth 77 million but only like maybe fifty of that is guaranteed, is that really dead in your? Best interest to sign that contract? Wouldn't you be better off hitting the fridge and marketing and maybe getting like a four year 56, a perfect example. You said they are coming in a little lower than the max. I think they're coming in and about sixty. Nine actually is, what do you class? So it's going back and forth. I've seen, I've seen that it was seventy-seven at the max. I've also seen that it's closer to that 17 average, and that was my thought to is dead. One of two things, it's a hedge against not getting what you want. Not being able to pull off a trade, not getting filled, not being able to spend that Max money next offseason get left with nothing so that would be number one. But to what might be a combo platter between the two is you make, you make Marcus a deal that you're supremely comfortable with or perhaps. And this is a little conspiracy theories in me. Perhaps a deal. Can't accept. And you wonder how much of this was bad PR where it's like, you know, wow, they won't spend a nickel and they're really cheap and X Y and Z is going on. It's like, all right, you know, let's put it out there. Let's make sure Marcus we're bringing them back, right? Cuz again, I just don't understand everyone. Here is saying no fake news mannix's report, blah blah blah discontent with smart, we're not here to talk about where reporters report of what's true or not, but it just seemed like we people can't really settle in on whether or not the Celtics are committed to Marcus Smart or not and that's what makes the whole thing really perplexing. Do they want him here? Do they not want him here? Do they think home? Stem better. Do they want him to be their starting point guard? Do they want to clear the cap table and then Havel and then have extra money? I can't figure it out, like the reporting on Smart, this offseason was, he's the teacher's pet and, and the people resent that he gets away with a ton of stuff and Brad, let them get away with murder and Brad. Can't stand him and watch him off the team cuz he's erratic. No, wait, they're going to re-sign him, okay? With, you know, again it's easy to shout fake news but I have no idea what you know where where where where they land in terms of, you know, how they view him right now. Well, the work that they try to come back to is just as it makes the most sense I would watch people. And and for the Celtics to offer him, a contract that has the ability to not be fully, guaranteed makes a lot of sense, because that will appease him in the short term because the money a lot of that money will be. All right, it appeases. The Celtics fan base because they love Marcus, it appeases the organization because it doesn't put you on the hook, long term with him and there's a, there's another fact that you gotta keep in mind, if they are going to let off, They try to make a run at Bradley Beal. Next summer, and let's say, Bradley says, I want to come to Boston. You gotta have assets to make that happen. You gotta have money to make that work. Marcus were making a little bit more money for this upcoming season. Yeah, it may help you get that done. That's the thing though, but it's a matter of time and you're right, that life matters and the guarantees matter because again, what I don't understand is, if you're a team that has decided I no longer want my best player, but do you want to take anybody on at a forty on a four-year contract who, who isn't a young and up-and-comer with a with a, with, with potential to turn into a star? It just seems like it's doesn't seem like a lot of NBA money. It seems like stupid money for a team that's down to build to take on. So I don't understand how that works in a bill trade scenario. Yeah, I mean I feel like when you look at the Marcus Smart situation, you're wondering how much of this whole pursue for Bradley Beal has to do with him, putting out the report that he wants around a million. I mean we don't know if that's him or or his or his people or who something that out there or sources or whatever the case may be, but maybe Marcus in the space of saying they look, I'm not in on that for And I want to get paid and, you know, one's a ball when he got out there. I'm worth just as much or maybe not if, if not around that vicinity. And if I'm not part of this plan, I'm not part of this month. You know, the future long-term then, let's just cut ties. Now, instead of me having to go through this quote, unquote Bridge year and you get Bradley Beal and I end up not having a say and where I want to go next next year. Well, here's the other facts to we said all along like the Celtics have to have a good sense of eels, coming, if they're going to go down this road here, this could also show that maybe they're not 100% certain, and they have to start to try to retain pieces here a little bit because what we said all along, if they've lost Kyrie, they've lost Horford. They've lost this. That the most recent ones, 48, if you go to the next summer and loose smart after all those guys you have nothing left and turned solid your assets. Yeah. They're hemorrhaging. They're hemorrhaging NBA talent. And I've just been not like the situation and just leave off. Sake of leaving next year if you don't rock. Yeah it wouldn't shock me if he's not all in on this plan. Why not, why wouldn't he say what? Plan change, the plan to get Bradley Beal or to get, you're not part of that plan to get breath. You feel, it's not good for Marcus, Peter know, the scary part to buy into that. I think he'll take understand that point. Thank you very much. Yeah, Plan B. How much enthusiasm is there going to be on this roster next year with such a orchestrated showing that they're bridging to something here? Whether it's b or something else. It's it's a really risky proposition. I think extending a guy is really a big step in terms of showing that. All right we're making a conspiracy facts there's transparency from ownership on down to the players, the players that matter and you're like guys I'm going to be real with you. We are we're stuck this year we're building towards, yep. A future but it may result in a step back this year. I need you to smile not pout. Not look around and say we need help and throw your hands up and start puffing and puffing. You can do that with the Jays. Can you do with Marcus off? That's, that's a question. That's a sign him. You can't, if you resign him, what you sign up on an upgraded? I don't think he'd be in on that know, you're just giving them the money. The money is easy. At least got some certainty, but if you tell them that and they're on board, you can do that. That's they wouldn't be the first team ever. That's had a bridge here in the middle of people's Prime. I think people over react immediately which is like you can't have another bad, you can. As long as these guys don't start looking for the door so long and you looking for the exit, if they're on board with it and they understand and they're down with your vision, you actually have a vision or if wink wink, they know that bill is going to frigging stomp, his feet and make his way over here and they're down with them ever. It is then it's fine. But if they're not on board and they're kind of light, you have not lied to but misled and we're going to blah, blah blah. And you know, look what happened. The Red Sox don't make a trade at the deadline and everyone's like, the whole package quit because they didn't make a trade and, you know, like, you know, if the players feel like ownership doesn't have their back, or they think one thing is happening versus another, that's bad in 2019 with the David situation. It's almost the same thing here. Yeah, dead. A little bit and you get a dead man. Walking sort of sort of vibe to when you think everyone's about to go. It is a weird situation if you're building. I mean there was a same shit with Anthony Davis that year talking about. Yeah. Yeah. That was terrible. Yeah. And then he comes in with the, That's all folks t-shirt. Yeah. 77. Yeah. That was awesome. Job up the markets conversation because when people are reacting to the deal it's not that people think Seventeen million dollars is a lot of NBA money these days. It's not it's just is you wanted to spend down here. I thought you were saving to spend it elsewhere. So again, I don't fully understand the plan. Why would you not have them made a move and re-sign, Forney and tried to make yourself better now? Well, that's the thing. Yeah, if I don't get, I don't fully get that if you're not in on the cap space thing that they've been doing here and you're going to get rid of it, five people. Why do I say other people? Yeah, I guess that probably just speaks to how much they like foreign job. Guess like they didn't see a value in re-signing him and committing big tax money to him, which was really that what we're talking about here now, right? Cuz they're in the tax barely but with your in the tax, you're really in there in ways, they haven't been since the big three cuz his whole salary was looking at was what was going to really thrust them in that direction. So it's a big difference between paying like, I don't know, probably a million bucks in tax. Like they are right now to double in 48 salary in tax potentially cuz what would he be making Seventeen? He got twenty million from the Knicks right that's forty million in real money for 48 about. So that's probably what scared them off the Fournier front right along those lines. You know it always comes back to this You spend money to win a championship, if you're the shelter, that's, that's the thing. And paying him that kind of money was going to get it done. So why do it, why would you spend that kind of money? Go that deep into the trash? You know, at best you're probably what, maybe four or five six feet in the East. That's that's a waste of money. It doesn't matter better. It, you lose. You're not going to be any better significantly. Better with the meal with the deal. You're going to lose a shitload of money and so what exactly is the problem? And just saying thanks but no thanks for that. Well, then it goes back to trading for him originally, cuz I think it was be robbed. Who wrote something about this, how they? They basically wasted the Hayward trade exception on him and they didn't by using them. As much as they did. At the dead, you would have. You would have been able to take Horford on a TP. Gotten a kembar TP that would have been the value of feel and you potentially would have had a teepee that could have fit be laughing. Yeah, right. Be a trade thirty-something tpe for walk or if you trade it in to the. Yeah. So again, it's a string of just weird decisions. They just continue to keep occurring. Yeah. And what's funny is like again, you know, I hate to Hate to kick a guy on the way out the door to see him go, but the death of the daddy. The Danny Danny, Danny post Kyrie leaving basically did everything wrong. I mean they're trying to think John he's dead. He's still reeling from it. It's been, right? It's one. It was one March, 2019 pics. Yeah. Anyway, we did, we did. Yeah, yeah. And everything still holding onto a lot of that. They've let certain guys go. We talked about the Cantor Thursday. That's a bit of a spinning of the wheel there where they had, um, they dumped them, they dumped Thompson afterwards price away for nothing. The guy signing for your deals now, you know, like yeah wage because of the tax and again, that's the restraint that we have to talk more and more about ownerships seeming a version of the tax here. Yeah. The last couple of years there in it now but they're really not in and was that the biggest loss in fact, that this offseason, in terms of coming in there in an as of now. But I'm sure they can find a way to not. They might. Yeah, you might bump out a Fernando and bring in. Yeah, mon like 900,000. That's what I thought worries. Me is like you trade. Like, you know, you start giving away. Who knows what, you know, like, you know, it could be you just you throw. And again, we're not saying is the end-all-be-all but, you know, they just throw Romeo in on a deal because they want to shed the 5 million there. It's just like it's fine. You're not expecting this guy to be Jaylen brown or Jayson Tatum, but it's just like, you're just shedding things along the way, just just with that be like, done saving a buck or two, you know, here's how argument for long as we look at possible smart extension coming in here. Is that maybe you eat that first big salary, you're not quite contending for a championship this year, but whatever you put in the place next year, via sign-and-trade or whatever rate, maybe you can include fornia in that maybe for when you could still be here after that as part of a veal core, whatever they're going to do here cuz let's face it, you may love him, you may hate somebody's, an NBA starting at 6. Don't have a lot of those on their roster here and they've as they've been siphoning town and I thought he fit really well with the Jays hate him in particular and I fall shoot her. The next also got him with a non-guaranteed fourth, you age. Which really took the third? Is it the third of the fourth year? Or so it's like sixty guaranteed and you can opt out of the final twenty so interesting action. Yeah, way, it's not bad at all. And that's the thing is like, we had a discussion, all offseason. If you can only sign one smarter Forty-Eight, which one do you sign? I'm surprised. It's smart and not Fournier. I am, I really am. I mean, I know this team is hard. I know, sure, I know the team needs a point guard in a perfect world. As I said, is the best thing to do is spend into the tax and just live off that it won't be, you won't be a title Contender, but that's the best team you're going to have for now. And then figure out later later, if you're going to trade you make sense you don't like if you're going to try to build some momentum toward something here, you can't have this year where the bench is bad, and you're really struggling for scoring and production. All these different things like you can't be another year like last year cuz how you going to have a year-long Last year and say, you know, you're excited to come. Look at what we got going on here. We we won the playing game again. That's what confuses like me in this sense cuz sure you ought to give the young players a chance here. As we saw in some early today and let them rise to the level, they're capable of, you want to have this open space to get bill here in the flexibility to do that. But you have a season-long you hear, you can't just lose a season or have a sense that you looking past this year to do something later. Like, remember I said this last week, 2016 wasn't great off but it was better than 2015 and you showed progress, and Horford looked at it and said, all right, that's something building here. I'm going to come join this. You can't have a year worse than 2016 here in Boston. Expecting be on my mind. Maybe not. So that's where we're at here. We just lost you sway. We may or may not get him back. I'm Sherrod. Blakely as we said in Vegas doing its thing, he's going to be there all week long Bobby Brown. Heading out there, we are going to do post-game shows because that's what we do. We do post-game shows and we will continue to talk some cast of characters here, but it gives us something to react to suck action. You usually don't expect all of the top players to play in every game. So it is possible if we get a game where there's no Romeo, no Pritchard know, yam that we might bow out. But for the most part, I think we're going to be here. We're going to do something and we'll keep talking to you guys after the games. Any closing thoughts here, whether on this game or anything? From the off-season perspective at this point, smart is the next shoe to drop I'm sure they're all transferred it for a minute for for a minute. What's guy to me? I think I mean again we got people into quick quick thought on Schroeder is that all agent driven? Is there anything to that? Is that way? I don't think it's real. I think it's all age and driven Buzz to try to get him a try to get him. You know, sign because his Market tried up fast, he was looking for something big, he didn't get it. That's the since I'm getting this is something that's not something that the Celtics are pushing for eager to get in bed with this guy. But obviously for the right price, you'll you'll do pretty much anything. I mean, if if you said tomorrow, hey, I'll come to Boston and I'll just take the minimum you'll do that deal without even hesitating. Oh yeah, I mean that's not going to happen but what I'm saying, if you can get him at a significantly discounted rate, would at least consider it but I think it was a real interested at all. There's a role for me and I think I think you would fit. Well I mean a guy who was a distributor, what that's Ledic. Yeah. I mean he he's you know Alonzo ball type of a guy you know on that end and if you going to come in here on a one-year deal and so he can try to maximize his money again next season. Then I think that would be a win-win for both sides cuz there is obviously a bit of a void at that position here in Boston. So I don't know. I don't I couldn't tell you. I mean sure I would know more than more than any of us would on whether it's Asian driven or not but dead. I can see why. At least the Celtics would kick the tires on the idea of bringing him in and I think he makes them. He makes them better, like he feels that he feels the need. He's a player that's, you know, I had a lot of success in this league. I mean, I don't know much about him personality-wise, but I know that he gets her blink, he gets under players skin out there that Thomas got into it, but I got into it. You can go down the line. Probably. But, you know, if if you listen, if you, if he's on your team and he's given it to the opposing team, then I'm all for that. Then then having to be the other way around. So I could use a bit of an insecure, I think like that. I'd like it. Yeah, I do believe I've never believed that the reason I didn't get into it here on the show, is I really thought it was. Like I said coming from one camp and not a Celtics and and I don't believe it's real. I don't know what's available to them now, though. And I don't know what the Celtics were, and that's the problem might not be but I don't even know if they ever talked. I don't know if the Celtics have, I don't know if the Celtics have any internet off. All truthfully. I really do believe that was Schroeder's campus like, they need a point guard. Let me float some stuff there, you know, because it just kind of came out of nowhere. Maybe but the Celtics don't have a ton off are so I don't know about Iraq, it's minutes after the smarts they burn anyway back to back. So the to the timing of the two reports was also weird. Yeah. Oh yeah. You're always wondering about that kind of stuff in the offseason but you look around the league right now. In fact of available point guard minutes and available money. There's not a ton like how many teams are going to hard cap themselves for him. Maybe the Celtics think about doing that since they're not going to be spending money anyway, for one year off, maybe give them a player options. Say you say, all right, if this year doesn't work crazy, you got some more guaranteed money here. If it does, you can go out and get the big deal. You're looking for a next year. I think we're the Celtics red and where Chicago is at it would make a lot of sense for both sides, cuz again, you may love him, you may hate him but he's an NBA starter, right? The Celtics don't have a ton of those right now. It would be that's the best they can do. I know that would be a great get for them and it would it would it would you like to wins? Does the guy who turned down eighty million dollars potentially walk in here at nine million? Like that's amazing value. At the end of the day here for Boston in my mind who knows maybe a little more decision-making too though. Unfortunately not that. That was a bad decision that even a time you're looking to dude that's a bad decision Lakers obviously. Yeah, the Lakers obviously didn't like him. Yeah. Well, I mean if you get that type of offer you turn it down, I'm not going to really like you either because you're not really thinking clearly like that money elsewhere. As long as the used the Sixth Man of the Year, runner-up two seasons ago. There was some real real good play in his recent past so he was good. Coming off your bench, got it. Yeah that's what you would do here. You know very good Metro to run that bench unit will say, can you don't have roster spot right now? You gotta fit Yamin here somehow so there's a lot of stuff so following around for the Celtics in terms of the roster right now. So I don't know if we're going to lead back up but that but now you're good I can do better than that. Okay. Yeah he got some bad advice so I I think we've I think we've exhausted of guys. We did it and we did a post game show. We did some offseason talk, we kind of did the whole thing, we did the whole thing which was cool. I said sharrod in Vegas right now on. What's up tonight, man. Anything good planned shirt number to I'm going to watch the Cade debut. Hello. Okay. Hey, Jimmy buzzing. That'll be buzzing tonight. Yeah, he's going to, he's going to keep him busy with relax. You got paid, you get lonely, and you got the Celtics for more pics sanguine there in Houston that they gave away for canvas. So great everyone's watching So Suraj there but he said now tomorrow. So we'll have ports there. You know, from the Celtics summer league throughout this stint in Vegas for more games. So often lots to talk about, well we'll see what we get out of it and the rest of us are here holding it down and we'll be back on Tuesday for some sort of sure I've watched tip-off. Tuesday, dad is at 7, we can do 7:00. Tell everybody go with them. Follow us all he can on Twitter but Falling clns on Twitter as well. That will send you a notifications where we're going to go live there and links to the to the post game show. Obviously subscribe on our YouTube channels if you haven't already but yeah that was it. That was fun guys. Anything to close? We're going to, we're done, I got nothing left everyone have a great Monday, we did Sunday. Enjoy the action sharrod. Thanks for thanks for hopping on Thursday.

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NBA Summer League Prospect Review 2021, Part 4

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You're out with your friends or co-workers putting back few drinks a few becomes a few too many. It's time to go in for a moment. You think calling for a ride or good driver live nearby. You make it home okay. What are the odds. Get pulled over and even so. What's the worst that could happen. Lose your license you lose your job you tell your car you kill someone. i guess. That's actually pretty bad things. One mistakes change your life or someone else's forever play it safe and plan ahead to get a ride drive sober or get pulled over our. This will do it for our summer league prospect review. If you're a subscriber of course you got all thirty teams and go back and listen to that for those of you on the free pot. Hope you've enjoyed this look at the summer league prospects as well. Let us speak now if the boston celtics summer league team. Who need to talk about with them. So the celtics didn't have as much in the rookie class. We'll talk. We'll talk about their second round pick. It was more for me about the guys that they got in the twenty twenty draft getting another opportunity and the one who is i would argue overall was the most productive was peyton Seventeen points eight and a half assists almost two steals a game and he definitely played. Well i don't want. I don't want to say anything. Other now. he was. It was productive was really efficient media completely ridiculous. Forty seven percents of his threes at the same time. I don't think purchaser fundamentally changed. The way i think about him as an nba player. I didn't go. Oh my god. This is a definite starter. I something that wasn't there before. It made me confident that he can be a backup that he can be a solid backup. Maybe a above average getting into that maybe into that fringe shorter range. But he did really well but i don't think he fundamentally changed that for me. Well the thing that had me so excited at the start. I didn't watch a a ton of celtics. Live and go back to the film for them was the thirty two assists in four games. I was like wow. That's he is not really known for his passing us kind of more deemed a combo guard coming out of college and ican dribble and he can shoot passing. He's never had great passage. So yeah let's check out these assists em yeah. I thought that that number was a little misleading. Thirteen of them came in transition teammates. Shot it really really well. Off of his passes he had a couple of plays where got the teeth The defense and kicked out to a pretty obvious pass to shooter or where when he was running hot with his shooting. Gravity like one gaming the meditate double team at the top of the key. Hit the roll man for an east one wide open underneath for a dunk. But you didn't see anything. And i didn't watch every single assist but i watched half of them to where i was like. Oh this is like great vision. Heroes making the right play in transition. Maybe didn't have anything you would cross the face of the defense leave it for shooter. A lot of these assists where. It summer league score might be a little more liberal on that given the overall dearth of assists in summer league a. of the actual sis where he threw it to a guy in the wing and you would take a couple of dribbles and late in it really some great pass or anything like that so like you. I wouldn't say that this changes my view of him certainly did everything that he needed to a obviously in a conference that includes the brooklyn. Nazis gonna need to get better. Defensively might not be able to do that to go against james harden or a kyrie irving that might just be beyond what he's physically capable of doing staying on the floor defensively but he's gonna make shots and you can even get to a few of his shots off the dribble interesting that he also played with carson edwards who it was kind of a similar player drafted in the similar similar range. A couple years ago as pritchard. What did you think of his performance. I thought that carson edwards the question has long been. He's he's he's small but he also can has a little bit a heat create separation so that i think that's that's good. I'm but for me. It's for edwards. It's always been will the shot go and unfortunately this was another sample where the shot did not go in. He took seven threes a game and made twenty nine percent of them. And i don't think his shot is broken or anything like that but it and this will come up with another player is. It's hard to make the whole puzzle work without that so i think that there's a a a. I like him in a guard rotation like as bad as like back to. I think that there's more for edwards to explore. There's more that he can do. But i'm not all the way area. Well this is now. It's been two years for edwards a twenty three years old. You mention the shooting. He is a thirty percent three point shooter at the nba level on one hundred thirty nine attempts and in the g. league he is a twenty eight percent Didn't play much last year but he he had one hundred eighteen attempts in thirteen games. They made twenty eight percent of those so like you. I was excited about his ability to defend on the perimeter and he actually looks to improve his off. Jewel game was able to create separation. Alta had a nice like tight spin. Move in transition that i really liked it was able to get on top of the rib really looked like if the ball in for me could be a player and it just never has. It's very frustrating. Because i it certainly did in college. Yeah it definitely didn't. That's part of why edwards were. He did in the draft which jump to aaron naismith knee smith. We wondered about where where his place was going to be in the boston. Rotation and he benefits from something of their players. Always do this in one direction. Or the other where i was in the building watching intently for his absolute best performance of summer league. He had nineteen points in the first half against the denver nuggets at a couple. Nice drives hit a bunch of shots and overall neath was very productive. Seventeen points a game. Six rebounds sixty percent shooting on pretty high usage. And so like i. I still like I like him. I do think though that. I have to caution myself. I saw the best stretch and the the interesting part of it for me was that he did do a little bit with the ball hands. I thought he actually had a nice dry. Where he crossed up zeke nause but generally speaking he was hitting some catch and shoot shots and then he was making some tough shots and so if you As we talked about a lot with young guys if consistently make tough shots that can work out well. But if it's you know making ten to twenty two on jump shots off the dribble and that's really more like six seven of twenty two than the small sample size comes in a little bit. Larger thought needs with came on towards the end of the year where he was pretty tentative. Offensively starting off to remember. Of course the His last season was ended with. I think it was a foot injury so he hadn't played in some time by the time was drafted. I think it took him some time to get his legs underneath them get used to the speed of the nba game. And i thought looked out there as you mentioned you that good stretch but i thought he was taking more difficult shots on catch and shoots movement jumpers where you're starting to vacate. Maybe this guy can be a threat here. Not just as a spot of guy who can defendant But who might actually be guy that the defense is going to have to account for offensively and yeah the dribble into a two point jump shot. Yeah that looked okay The off the dribble stuff trying to get to the rim pick roller. That's that's that's really something that he has a ton of athleticism to do. Maybe you can get to some long twos late in the shot clock or something like that and it competes there as well so i thought he used a guy who is it an absolutely dominating performance but he's continuing to add is proficiency as a shooter and appears to be on an upward trajectory. Romeo langford was the fourteenth pick back in two thousand nineteen has had Injury filled star-crossed tenure. So far for the celtics and i thought he did a nice job. Making things happen in transition like you and that's and that's a big part of i liked was efficient in summer league. The half court game still a work in progress did hit some threes So i i think there was more positive there. He just hasn't had enough of that good film yet and there was some definitely some good stuff here but i would be more comfortable giving me smith based on what we saw here in a little bit on what we've seen before i've been more comfortable giving me smith regular rotation minutes that langford as now though both of them have the potential to be more than we've seen only three games. Seventy seven minutes for lankford was five out of thirteen from three. The you mentioned the attacking transition is where he looked good athletically. I thought he looked pretty. Good it got up. One pretty huge dunk in transition in a scramble situation. He tried to do some on the ball stuff but they let them like bring the ball up a few times. That didn't go too well. He doesn't look like he has the type of handle for that. He's getting pressured. Up was dribbling defensively When he attacked and pick and roll it just it didn't really seem to particularly go anywhere so again. That's not what they need them to do. They need to be supporting players. Flash defensively at the nba level and he was more aggressive shooting. The ball took a couple off the dribble. A looks to have kinda tightened up the forum on his release compacted it. Maybe it would be a better way to say that. Because he had kind of a longer release for behind his head and of course he's dealt with all these thumb issues. He was under thirty percent from three in college. So this is a not discouraging performance for langford but didn't do anything to really wa you either. Anybody else takes in the forty fifth. Pick joon begawan was also was also entertainment so it was yamadera any thoughts on either of them yet. No he had a couple nice drives but really struggled to be officiant. Overall is six five. He's got a seven foot wingspan as just a a two three wing player but really wasn't able to find a niche offensively operated almost entirely as the support player and yet was pretty inefficient. Whether it's on drive off a spot up so or shooting the ball but a guy who has nba size and that's why he's been drafted to develop. Let's go to the atlanta hawks. No no brew fernando. You talked about enough. do you wanna talk about it. And he played. He played eighteen minutes a game. He was bruno fernando now he was for. Let's move on near i. It was actually eat played. Well as as he will of. It's still so we talked about the trade. I think has a not a guy who's gonna show a lot in this setting and but a nascent. Three bali took a few of those and maybe move his feet as a switch defenders undersized center. So i i you has a skill set that in fury could translate. There's a feeling that may be wonder why he's still on the roster that they can do better in that slept thumb is is he guaranteed for this year. I think he is right. Yeah so i mean and the celtics right now as we're recording this they fifteen guaranteed fully guaranteed spots. Roster jabari parker. But then the so. I think that we'll see never to use their mid-level intruder so it might be that he can get that spot it might be that they cut him or trade him or something. You not actually trading is a lot more likely because then you don't have to pay the tax on bruna fernando's money but what to keep an eye on how brad stevens wants to mention this l. Let's go to. Let's go to the atlanta hawks. And i was excited to see them because they had to draft picks from the twenty one draft that i didn't watch film on but that i had heard a lot about a nets jalen johnson and sheriff cooper will start with johnson the twentieth pick in the draft. And i was. I the way i described is. There's definitely something there like he. The physical tools are impressive. He played with some real energy and it was. The shot was generally going in. I mean with with jaylen johnson. It was more like he had efficiency without volume. He was five twelve on threes and made eighty two percent of his free throws but it was on eleven total in the four games. He played but there was a lot there that i really liked for him. Yeah that starts obviously with the physical profile. Really a modern combo forward size really almost a modern four size even played him a fair amount at the five and absolutely devastating using that physical profile intrinsic. Twelve of fourteen as shooting transition did have some turnovers. But you know to in a lotta grab and go pushing the ball. Until got some his free throw attempts to me he would just get on top of the rim at finish with authority. He definitely is a guy who if he grabbing goes like you got probably you need a low to him Or he's gonna dunk it on your head unless you have your big man back so that was the first thing that stuck out about him and his shooting was not something that had been particularly impressive. Also there were some character red flags on him just from having left duke and having this itinerant journey through many a high school. So certainly with some concerns there. I bet that was a big part of why he fell to twenty as well. But certainly has the physical profile top-ten perhaps even a top five sort of pick and so especially if he can play as a small ball center as well at that and maybe some switching. He's not the quickest mover. Laterally did a five blocks in four games of which was decent. Johnson he also fifty and this happens a lot for young guys in summer league. And i would say particularly after the weird year that some of these guys especially johnson had. He tried to do too much on defense where he was just like. Oh i can be in the passing lanes. I do some there and said just staying with this guy and kind of functioning within the flow jimmy johnson. He's he's really young. You're gonna you're going to sort that out like he's nineteen now he'll turn toward. This'll be as age twenty season his rookie year and also extremely productive nineteen point nine and a half rebounds couple of sisters while and i think he will he will fit in i. I don't know that you're gonna that nate. Mcmillan wants to trust him with like regular high in minutes on a team. That's trying to do stuff this year but can give him opportunities in the hawks having players. That can give him the ball. I think is going to be very good for johnson in the early going. He's going to need to find his footing. Defensively and having him with david could actually be a really good thing because if he is doing some of that too much stuff than i think mcmillan will wanna play. And so the help with that motivates him sometimes that we used to guy shutting off. But we'll see. But i thought he played with good intensity go quickly one. Last thing i johnson. He did try to post up a little bit and given the fact that he's not reputations. A great shooter. You really favored a right shoulder turnaround in the post he made one on on the left baseline pretty good but other times he went to too much on. The right block wasn't as effective there. And your didn't really quite have that. I'm gonna just mass. You approach in the post. Necessarily though it's largely was doing it against relatively light size guys you know. I didn't really see him posting up as much against guards. Let's get to Sheriff cooper another exciting pick. Forty eight he's gonna be on a two way right correct he's gonna be on a two way fell. Further in drafting people expected out of auburn. And what i had heard about cooper was that he was a very talented passer. And we definitely saw that. Cooper fifteen points seven point two assists and five turnovers. But when i wake for the parts that i saw i thought a fair amount of the turnovers were him doing things right and just the ball bouncing off guys hands or we'll be late. I would say some of those turnovers as with everybody earned. But i i would say a portion of them are the right kind of turnovers is the way that i would describe it. And there are two big questions for me with cooper so one is his size you. I worked at a bend with mike schmitz above it was with them. Holy crappy small like. He's scoopers lifted listed at six feet ad. I mean maybe he's six feet and shoes. Like i mean 'cause i didn't get i wasn't at the same levels in. But he looked like maybe around. My height may be a little shorter than me. And that's not that's not normally player. Abor cooper did not do the measurements at the nba campaign and perhaps house. Why yeah and he and then the other one is. Can he kind of crew gate the separation that you often need to generate the response to make those passes and i thought that was a little bit of a mixed bag. That's part of why cooper's passing in transition popped up for me but he also like he did a lot of stuff through small windows which was really impressive. So that part of it i'm less i'm less enthusiastic about. I mean he wasn't officiant as a pick and roll score really had eight points on twenty possessions there though the numbers with assists as you'd expect with sharieff look better so i i think that he's a fun to having rotation getting him on. A two way is very fortunate for the hawks. Because that means they don't have to you know if it ends up being these not quite there than you're not you don't have to burn roster spot on it but i but i like i like cooper. I really want him to succeed. Yakubu had one game a he goes against the pacers where he went crazy from three. I'd like five threes shoots like this set shot where he can a lean to his left to that. Actually look good in the other games. He didn't hit as he did. Hit the game winning. Three in the corner off an offensive rebound That i think that was crazy and then he played some flurry at some things to say to the pacers bench after that. But it like you. I wasn't as impressed by athletically as i hope to be. You know. I was hoping he might be like an isaiah. Thomas level athlete. The lefty isaiah thomas level athlete. And he doesn't have that type of water bug ability. Your didn't wasn't really kinda got lost among the trees wasn't able to find a way to get shots up around the basket. That's something that might be able change a little bit. He had to go a lot in isolation for this. Is the lou better than advertised but still this set shot that he takes leaning to his left. You know. i'm not really sure about that. So i would actually say you know. He was given the starting point guard. Say and plenty of rope to the foul line at all. Either you mentioned the turnovers withdrawal so massive in college. That doesn't concern me as much. Use a very solid passer but i. I'm concerned that he's not gonna be enough of a scoring threat at any level based on this and based on the fact that he wasn't able to really look like a great athlete out there so it was a given what i had heard about cooper and the idea that he'd been way under drafted. I was slightly disappointed. As far as like what i had been told to expect from him. That's not his fault. He didn't tell me that but he didn't particularly pop for. Yeah i'm most mostly in agreement there. The other guy to talk about a scholar. Maize maize was the fifth. Pick for the hawks in twenty twenty was on a two way. i believe he got restricted. Got a qualifying offer for another two way. I'm guessing that's going to be worry. Ends up and maize. I thought he was a great reflection of something that you and i see a lot in summer league which is the difference that one year in the nba make so maze knew what he was doing. Seemed like the game was slower for him than further. Rookies both on the hawks and everywhere else and that led to him being being productive. Eight nineteen points four assists. But i still wonder with. I think he's i think he's a capable player but i wonder what his calling card is. And what he he does that it basically forces a coach to play him in a rotation and i. I think that can come. I think that he has physical talent. I think that he can do. He's kind of one of those not jack-of-all-trades but jackson few trades master of none. And i wonder how that fits in with the hawks who have plenty of good players you have. Maze has pretty decent sized for a combo guard at six four. And you know. He played some point guard last year with all the injuries that he was a four year. Man at lsu As a good frame as well six over two six six weeks pence are an and over two hundred pounds eddie reasonably while you is a decently. High school not an elite athlete. But i actually kinda like maize. Okay i think. I do too good i just i just don't know what he does like where he's like. Oh you have to play him because he does. This could be adequate as a point guard. Thought he made good decisions. Who's effective as a picket role score. Eddie can shoot it a little bit off the dribble or even off the ball will but so i think he could be someone who could evolve into a totally decent backup point guard and maybe even be able to play a little bit too for you. of actually. Certainly not. You know some dominating summer league or anything. But i think he just he looks like someone that can be a steady player for you a on both before we move on. I want to remind you about the official outfitter of my wedding. That of course is indochino. 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They were a summer league team. We work particularly excited about and that was even before josh green. The eighteenth picking twenty twenty didn't play in summer league because you'd like to see joe drugs actually put so. He was on the australian bronze-medal team He wasn't vegas but he didn't play for them. I mean i totally get that. We talked about respond. Grew done and that he had done. He had done both So instead the the only player that we really needed to kind of. I guess pay attention to was tyrel terry. He was the thirty first. Pick in twenty twenty. And terry i mean it was good that he could that he hit his threes to be sure But the the idea of okay is he going to be able to create good shots for himself and others wasn't super thrilled about that and even terry like he only played in two games so like these. The relevant sample size of player minutes for the mavericks was just shockingly low while they got completely house by the sixers. Oh my god and cherry one of the concerns spot him coming out of stanford supposed to be a good shooter not necessarily a point guard but someone who can light it up from the outside. But he's really thin. I think defensively he got completely lit up by tari smacky. We'll talk about later. Just didn't see a lot to like about him and you really just wasn't heard from it all last year despite all the covert issues that they had i mean. It's not looking like much of a draft for the mavs with number thirty one. Terri tyler bay at thirty six suits already. Not even on the team anymore than played for the bull summer league demon and didn't do much so don't have a ton to say about terrier. Do we move onto the denver nuggets her well just briefly them. Eugene a amaury. I don't i don't have them sorry forward. A he played he played wealth. Maps fifteen points five rebounds and he got one of their two slots him and nate hidden will be the mavericks to two way players. At least at the start of the year we can move on to denver and another player that you and i had heard a lot about. But we're not previously able to watch film on was bones highland and he is a lot of fun. He is as advertised in that respect at the very very minimum. Yes seth has as being in the drum about bones highland 'em has some lou williams ask qualities as like a thin guy who drives the basket a little bit more lengthened size than lou. Williams has a. But you're deputy appear score and Also i mean obviously comparing him to to these guys not saying he's going to be this good but just as far as what stood out a little bit about his game you know. He's got like a very aggressive three-pointer not the highest released book can create some space with a step back not quite as much as jalen green create. But it's somewhat of a similar release the to jalen green and highland also showed more as a passer than expected with nineteen assists in four games had a couple of games where he really got hot shooting the ball from three drive to the basket. Accentuate contact with that. Skinny does a pretty good job of that wasn't able to be effective attacking in pick and roll from the top of the key as much as he was only ten points on twenty possessions there and was able to get to the basket a little bit but mostly it's going to be a long to for him In any sort of a pick and roll circumstances sometimes. If it's a three then maybe it looks a little bit better. But i thought he looked better attacking from the wing of an iverson cod or ball reversal. Or or a drag screen in transition You also had his big game against that terrible mavs team but the one thing i said about the nuggets was with jamal. Murray out to start the year and who knows for how long that they really needed another score in the backward. I thought they actually have gone after lou williams and i think that both thailand. There's a possibility that at least some nineteen might be able to fill that role of gets hot yen bones. He's he's only twenty now. He'll turn twenty one before the season and i'm intrigued by where his game can go. I do not expect for him to go. Nine of twelve extended proportions on catch. Shoot shots for the rest of his career. But that also can work that also can work well playing alongside yokich. They're they're different archetypes of players that work with yoga. You can have a point-guard-size dude. Who can can do that. I think it can work really well. And yeah i i thought he. I thought he was fun. We'll see where his his defense goes. I mean that's going to be an important question. Just can't he is quite thin as this was quite quite thin. And i think that you know. We're talking about highland being in a playoff rotation that will eventually be concerned but i it's candy play. I think the answer to the question of he plays yes and zinzan. Most important young nugget was ignasi. Nashi the twenty second pick in twenty twenty and somebody that we talked about as potential backup center for the nuggets. As soon as this year. I mean and the offensive game wasn't wasn't really there Is that what. Is that how you're going to describe Shooting nineteen percent from the field seven out of thirty six and four games and eleven percent from three. Not really really there to assist though but so let's start with. What did you think of him. Defensively you know the idea dashi and again. It's tough to see for big at this level. The idea fergus. He's playing alongside bull ball as the too big. A lot of the time is that he could do some switching it. We didn't see too much of that You know to really change my opinion. I thought he was able to show some glimpses of of effectiveness the nba level playing in a more conventional style. Though only to block shots didn't really see many help. Plays from him To be candid. I did more re watching film from them which is more just individual players. Don't get to see. I didn't get the as much of the nuggets in overall team play. Which is we don't if we didn't see it live. It's just it's hard like yeah. You can't get an idea of the defense without watching full game so so i'm not going to give you a huge opinion on that. You're looking at his jump shot. He was kinda shooting more of like i thought a set shot last year and he seems to be trying to transition into a jump shot as feeder going forward a lot but he's kind of shooting it on the way down and just didn't really look particularly comfortable because trying to speed up his release a little bit. Maybe but it just didn't look to have the same shot that he had before and i'm not sure if that's kind of a work in progress for him right now or or what. That is if video other nuggets watchers had that same observations. I'd be interested to know that meal talk by with marris on the preview am so obviously not a successful summer league for nausea. Yeah i i'm not super concerned just because about the offense because we've we've seen him do better in other circumstances which i think are more were calibrated to what we're expecting for nash. Moon for the other guy to talk about for them Turk block files number league legend. But but he didn't forty eight minutes. He's he's really matured is game as mature on the other guy we should discuss is bull bowl. The fourteenth pick in nineteen and i think audible high forty fourth piff fourteen segment. Yeah i think of him as in many ways is a perfect summer league player because he is just so entertaining on both ends of the floor. Like there was a moment in the boss in the boston game. So the nuggets played the celtics. I that was the game when naismith went crazy. Bulbul went behind the back in transition. Twice in the same half was like that. Was the light fully blocked a bunch of shots. He hit his threes illness. But my fundamental questions slash concern about global has basically always been what the hell is he on on a good team and as productive be twenty two points seven rebounds a game as productivity was. I still don't understand what the hell is on a. I thought this was a step forward for henry moore so defensively. Actually i did. I did lock in a little bit more on his defense of film. And i thought he showed a little bit better of an understanding of what he was going to do. In a switch in what that was was blais really really far off the guy now against mba. And i'm not sure if that's going to work but he is so long so ridiculously long. He watching film with some of his blocks like he blocked shots in a way that you just don't see we're guys it. Looks like they have all kinds of room and then he'll just like bat. The guy shot. They're not even getting that far off the ground like it's not like biles. Turner robert williams who sometimes surprise guys. Because the longer than you think it's like what is that guy. Is it dawson the street fighter. Who just like his arm just extends and just appears out of nowhere. He'll just like you know. Sort of like wind his arm up while the guy jumpers in the air just like swat. It's it's his timing is wonderful. And obviously he's got that creepy. Seven nine wingspan equal to basically the largest that. We've seen. I'm not sure what lake george muresan's was or anything but he and go bayer and bombardier or tied for basically the longest Maybe i can't remember seven seven or seventy nine but you know super long wingspan. Obviously but he was able to move his feet while enough to kind of stay in front of guys a little bit and then offensively still remains a work in progress finishing around the rim and he really is more of a three four on offense he wants to dribble alati. He worked mostly out of isolation and in the post. It's not gonna back anybody down but you can kind of zigzag back and forth and then get turnaround jumper got fouled a ton thirty one after attemps in eighty minutes over three games which was pretty nasty only to assist you a supposed to be a little bit better passer than this at times. shot it well from three also a lot of it was kind of ice owing in the mid range and if he goes up against like a good wing. Nba quality wing guarding. Who's gonna get underneath them. Cutting kristaps porzingis the same way. He has on offense but he'll he'll kinda turney shoots it off his shoulder. Almost behind his head is released isn't the highest of so. I eat certainly a very unconventional offensive player and a very unconventional defensive player. As one you hope that he could be a center and we didn't really see him trying to guard against like good post up threats to we're going to go right through them or anything like that. You can contain those guys with his lengthy just gonna get duct in so badly that he just can't deal with it but you know this is bull was really just wasn't effective at all last year again for a nuggets team that at time really needed some production and so i so having avid theory. Yeah i think full as a bizarro bod in the sense that they have very different physical tools where kit can be very effective against specific opposition. And if you if mike malone pixes spots i think the bubble can be a good part of the rotation. But they're gonna be certain matchups where he just gets host and probably tried to avoid those so having trouble with nausea and with yoga chew ben thankfully hopefully continue. Knock on wood and iron man. I think there's a way to make that work. Yeah and it's just a step forward that he needed to take a just to be effective it a basketball game against decent opposition and the the thing is is that these really be effective at the level as a sub scores coming off screens at the three point line. Like it's got more of a novelty still has to just get better at some of the nuts and bolts whether that shooting spot up three or being able to just finish around the rim and obviously protecting the rim. I thought it was telling that none of his block shots came as just conventional rim production coming over verticality type place. It's all this like crazy on. Ball get the guy in the air and a in a way that no one else would ever block the shot. But you know he's got to figure out the nuts and bolts of his game but just even like find a way to be better defensively in summer. League was a step forward for we can move to. The los angeles lakers and the lakers partially because of the stay out. Anthony davis and everything else and also partially just due to the fact that the guys that they have on two ways only played twenty minutes a game. Yeah they had the twenty second. Pick obviously which which became isaiah jackson and moved that in the In the westbrook deal. So giuliani out of gonzaga. Got weigh highly regarded was surprised that he didn't get drafted. I so i admittedly didn't focus a ton on the lakers. Because not only is it the situation where they don't a lot of focus on but then when you think about their talent level relative to other teams it also means that. You're getting a really tough sample. We talked about a little bit with tyrod taylor so a you only played twenty minutes. A game didn't make didn't take didn't make many threes a mac because it was another highly regarded a undrafted guy. He he really struggled from the field. And then austin reeves. I would say in some ways was the most was the most interesting if those guys. He's they're other two way player even though really struggled to shoot the by i did see him play in the sacramento summer league and he. He's a smart player. Took a charge. That that i really liked it had some nice passes along. The baseline had a nice alleyoop. It in tight windows. It's a good pass rate. If it's going to work for him it's going to be as this kind of grievous vazquez tied jerome sort of bigger point guard who struggles athletically but can shoot in pass. Some four year played oklahoma. So he's already he's already twenty three But yeah we'll we'll see you can make work havoc i light. I fully support the idea of having a point guard with. What are your two way spots there times that you need that even though the lakers have more ball handlers than most. When you look down the grocery house and you're looking for something for your pet. 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Work off a pick and roll some more. Do some more stuff with the ball. Try to create. That wasn't really the approach whether that was mcdaniels choice or the way it worked out with the players on the floor or conscious decision by the wolves organisation they kind of had mcdaniels in the same offensive role. That he's gonna be in for the big squad where he's probably gonna be in competition to start for them at the four position. Yeah and so. It wasn't a very ball. dominant time. Mcdaniels did take a few shots off the dribble. It was more not spotting up getting getting the ball. No circumstances running the floor. Heart in transition where mcdaniels was absolutely excellent. Not a huge surprise. They're considering what he has done before. And so i thought mcdaniels did it. He did a nice job with what they asked him to do. Yeah and again. The biggest thing is been a what he's done defensively so while there's just not much to change on mcdaniels. Nearly hit some shots. He ran the floor. I mean that was well over. Fifty percent of his offense only had seven pickerel ball handler. Possessions he's not really athletic enough to get to the basket in those situations. He played four games. eyeso- yet for those. He didn't score either. So i if you're counting at home that's four points on eleven self-generated possessions and that's fine. He doesn't really have elite burst off the dribble or elite fishing around the rim where he was only okay in summer league. But you know playing hard running the floor hitting shots and defending with versatility. is going to be his calling card in the future and so instead the guy that had the keys a lot of the time for the wolves was jalen noel. He was there a second round pick in two thousand nineteen out of university of washington. And the the. I mean no well thirty. Three percent usage sixteen percent assists percentage and was very was very productive. I mean this creating good looks for himself and others out of the pick and roll a full point per possession in those pick and roll ball handling also had like three assists per game Four turnovers with the turnovers definitely concerned. So i don't i i don't necessarily know i. I think this was definitely good for not to be able to do that. And especially with limited teammates than some other teams to be able to make it work. But i didn't. When i watched him i didn't go. Oh this is definitely going to work in the nba. They'll i did see more positive from noel than i did for him last year. Yeah we didn't play a showed a little bit two years ago. He's kinda combo guard. Size guy was able to get to the rim more in pick and roll Whether for a floater or for a layup a part of the reason is statute pick and rolls just to hitting gang from the outside more so than could be expected to be repeated. So it noel showed that he could create some shots and at least you have made them efficiently in this four game sample but nothing earthshaking there either. So let's talk about the new orleans. Pelicans we had quite you guys. Starting with a guy who thought really impressed at number seventeen overall. Pick trae murthy out of virginia and trae somebody who we had heard fairmount amount coming out of. Uva he's twenty one already. 'cause he played three years in virginia and the jump shot was was always kind of like the thing the thing to know about trey and it it definitely went in in summer league six point two per game made forty four percent of those but it was also i like the rest of his game too. I thought that he So i wasn't there. This best game was was the first or second he played in some trae hit six threes but his jumper look smoothie it afloat that he likes and somebody else with with murphy is that i brought this up a little bit with moses moody back when we did the warriors is that it's important for these guys that are going to be in a kind of a smaller role offensively. It's important one to consistently try on defense. And i thought when i watched trae he was really doing that and i thought that that was very a very positive thing for him potentially stepping the pelicans more quickly. Yeah i think so. And they really. They need that. They need that three d. style played. They got zion. They got devante graham They've got brandon ingram. They got they're going to have carl lewis. We'll talk about in a second like they got plenty of guys great shots they need guys who can defend and finish plays and whether it was running the floor and transition where he was outstanding whether it's hitting shots from three only eighteen percent usage but never turned it over the past it. A little bit had a thirty pr. Which a small sample exactly to shoot at this but was able to generate maybe more three pointers than you might think as well look comfortable a step beyond the line still. It'd picket role. They give them a few possessions. They're mostly just unbroken plays. That didn't look like it was going to be amazing as a driver off a spot ups. I thought it was only okay. Because he's really more of a two foot finisher doesn't have like a great finishing packages at the strongest guy to go through guys and finish a but yeah. I mean highly successful summer league for trae murphy. Not quite the same type of player as mikhail bridges but certainly in terms of just the style of picked that he is the body type. A somewhat of of of the ways that bridges He's not that type of shark defensively But i will see obviously could get into an nba game get lit up defensively not be able to hit a shot but certainly everything that you would hope for from him. If you're talking fan. Yeah and the next most important. Pelican was cairo lewis his summer league because he was the thirteenth. Pick in twenty twenty. And i was there for one of lewis's is more productive performances. Where his he had to catch and shoot threes and had a good looking pull up. The overall efficiency numbers were great for him below thirty percent from three on three and a half game and basically forty one percent from the field. But i thought that lewis did a couple of things that i liked one. I thought he competed on defense. Attorney got into got into the passing lane which you like it especially for kind of for a point guard who isn't going to be necessarily the greatest point of attack. I think lewis can do some of it but to to be aggressive. If i see there was good and i thought he was looking for teammates. Trying to make things happen as a passer and so the other thing for me. That was interesting because it's such an unusual dynamic because we not only got to see. We missed summer league for these second year. Guys there for share but also. We didn't get to see them as they you know. Make the rounds in the league. Is i thought lewis was going to be faster in person than he was like not to an extreme degree but i thought it was gonna be like one of those like oh god. He's just like a you know you see the the the lines behind him wasn't quite that level at least when i saw him in some really. Yeah that's a fair thing to say. I had that same observation. It's interesting that you said that because a lot like andrew lopez a espn wounds watching the pels will tweet about how fast us and transition and yeah you know you'll push the ball but he's not just like oh my god we've gotta get back disguise. Just pushing it down. You were not talking deer and fox probably not even talk like ish smith here honestly And he's not even probably his relentless say tj mcconnell either yuppie. Yeah it's it's certainly a strength of push it in transition but it's nothing particularly breathtaking. The selling point on lewis got him drafted. Thirteenth overall was ability to shoot the ball off the draw. Maybe even as a spot up guy as you mentioned we had a couple of places not just spot us but even catch and shoots office screens that look decent And that he could get the basket some with his speed. And you know wouldn't be an unbelievable finisher a passer but it would be solid up in all these areas where it could work for him as a creator and the pick and roll stats. Were not pretty Was not able to get to the with much effectiveness. Did some of this is obviously skewed by the fact that his jumper didn't go in that much. I'm not gonna draw conclusions from that necessarily in summer league but this was not a for a guy coming in already. Having played a year. They didn't resign. Lonzo ball yes. They brought in davonte. Graham it didn't look like cair loose was going to be pushing devante grand for that starting draw based at least on this performance right like that's why this was a disappointing summer league for me for cairo. Lewis is that the pelicans david griffin. Let's guys go basically created an opportunity and if louis had been dominant would been okay. They're in good hands. Because the pelicans one win this year like this is not a foot on the foot on the brakes. Let a couple of guys go get a good traffic that that's not what they're intending it. All now they're picking lottery projected and we'll see how that works out but that's not what they're intending. They're intending to give away a non lottery. Pick and that puts more on monte graham and and this wasn't necessarily the best ecosystem for cairo louis but yeah i had a higher threshold because of the circumstances surrounding him. And that's not really his fault. But i wanted to see that it didn't quite get. There are open a guy who drafted number thirteen in his second year is gonna start to look like he might be on the past being sorta right and we saw some other players in that twenty twenty first round. That looked that that that were more dominant than i was. So that's a data point that they have in their favor that he doesn't and the other recent pick that the pels had was her jones and her jones. I was a little bit familiar with because he played with cairo. Lewis at alabama. So i remembered him and petty. Who i don't know petting was on. Someone didn't really see him. But those guys all play together and with her jones he he. He passes the test almost immediately because he's like six eight built pretty strong but the there two weaknesses of her jones. One is that doesn't doesn't really shoot the ball. Well and the other one is that he's he passes the test more than passes the applied athleticism test. I guess is the way to put it like. He's he's bigger but he doesn't move super. Well yeah. i didn't see him as like particularly explosive. The only got up to three point attempts in five games and only thirty one shots overall so he wasn't really a featured part of the offense he did average over a block and a steal per game in basically twenty minutes of action so that that was interesting we get a chance to lock it in his defense a little bit more. Maybe during preseason a that'll be something to watch but yet at his size he's going to need to shoot the three e. Okay putting the ball on the floor and driving but concerning only took two three shooting under fifty percent from the field was a little bit disappointing de lozada. The big question for ms always been his jump shot and that just didn't look good at all in this summer league you know. He's he's athletic. Guy likes to get out in transition. Plays hard defense with energy but it his size just a two guards is basically does have a good frame has athleticism but does it really have anything to do on offense unless he's going to be able to at least hit spot ups and that unfortunately does not appear to be coming along. I mean didi was to thirteen on catching shoots and only took three shots off the dribble and he played He played a hundred minutes in similarly so the volume there is is concerning and the success rate is obviously concerning as well one player who was who explored a whole lot of the studio space for the pelicans somberly team was not marshall and nause his intensity like defensively like that was. That was a big part for me of why really liked him last year on the pels and he he stood out on a team that needed that kind of that needed that youth and he ended up being a much larger part of their offense. Really he was. He had a usage rate of fifty percent in also had was leading. You was biding euro five zero percent. No no he's twenty five percents. Oh ochre thirty to twenty five percent. But then he also had a twenty eight. Assist percentage Basically was it was very high volume. When when marshall was out there and that were i mean. He's three. his three ball looked looked dr. He wasn't taking a ton of them when you think about how much ball was in marshall sands Wasn't really making. His twos was getting so. I thought he was fine. I didn't i thought that for him. Export like doing all that extra engvall work didn't really change. It didn't make me think. Oh he should be doing that all time pros but it did make me appreciate. Oh well he does. These other things ball had some success as a pastor. Statistically got on the defensive glass key plays hard. he's got a strong body you know. He's not really an elite athlete. But you hope that maybe that kind of quest matthews sorta style of defense could earn him a role but the three point shot is going to be big for him again. For a team with side williamson and brandon and and all these other guys. Yeah it was great that he did some pick and roll but not going to be as good as those guys. So y- maybe you'll do it on the backside every once in a while but it's mostly going to be a novelty for him. And then the the pelicans at to both of their two way guys dalton homes and jose alvarado were on their team but both of them had pretty small roles because the pelicans had a lot of other mouse defeat. So i didn't have any real thoughts on them. They were only playing in small spurts. Who talk about the sixers now. Entire east maxi had one of the better summer leagues really of any one ad where it really began for him was that his jump shot looks to be coming along. It's still little flat. It's still kind of a little bit of a push shot with the low released but he was very active taking them even had a a step back as well that opened up some more of his pick and roll game. He got guys leading the wrong way and was able to explode to the basket. Looked pretty good as a finisher as well the passing will be the next up for that was not as good like at one point. A guy tried to slip out of a screen to the rim. Can't remember who the big was. But your harry's maxine just about took his head off with a pass and it's out of pounds so that it didn't look as good to me as a passer. You know baby steps here. And i shouldn't even say baby steps like real steps for him to be able to look confident shooting the ball from three and also getting to the basket and finishing a and was able to score quite a bit so very successful summer league for him as he kind of looks to be main guy off the bench as score and maybe even potentially someone who could close some games for them as you know the as they desperately look for that primary pick and roll threat on this team. Yeah and the overall officiency numbers for maxine were striking thirty six p. e. r. sixty one percent shooting on thirty three percent usage also had a big role in the past That efficiency is even more impressive. When you consider that terrorist. Max did not. He did not make a catch and shoot shot human. We took a to in all of summer league so somebody who is making those opportunities. You only played in two games but I thought maxine look very good out there. He played with played with intensity. And i'm one of those games was when they just crushed the mavericks. If memory serves right they yes yes. I'm glad that you memory from thirty minutes ago does does serve off because maximum and played games. That was one of the ones that oh yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah exactly so Great jumper and paul reed played five games and again was one of the top sorely players as he was like in the g. league exceeding productive as always. Yeah i mean to block the game. Two point six steals a game in twenty nine minutes so that looks good like his. He's got this short area quickness to make plays defensively he's still a little bit upright in his stance. I'm not sure. I love him as a switch defender necessarily and his jump shot like he'll make him a on occasion didn't take too many us. Mostly focus On being the center the playing around the rim was voracious as an offensive rebound and. Then put him back with aplomb. Very efficient on those plays as well. So it'll could read emerge into being a potential backup center option or on is when embiid sits and they start drumming to bring him in a as the backup. Yeah i think he deserves a chance to see what he can do at the nba level given how productive he's been at every other level. Yeah we'll heartedly agree. I wish i believe in the shot a little bit more. Because then you could essentially slide him down and feel more control playing with the four but it might pretty ugly. Yeah but reed and drummond. Let's say you run into you. Run into some of the problems and the sixers depending on how you know. Ben simmons is still on this roster like how they want to structure the rotations. They're going to you want as much spacing on the rest of that second unit because then guys like maxi and however they want to run it. We'll have will actually have the space to operate. So that's going to be a potential challenge of dermer. Had a bunch of other interesting guys on the team. I think that the the one that we would normally start on would be jailed springer because the tennessee product was their first-round pick this year eighth but Read were so productive. Springer played in in five games. The jump shot was not falling for him. But he's still in an intriguing player a defensively and in some of his offensive. Aggressiveness on twos was was notable as well the do about springer who's just got built like a tank and he's like six four but he's pretty jacked and just really likes to attack it. In transition workers way into the lane us is big body to create angles and go up or the rim off a two feet and not really a one footed leaper and early shot threes at tennessee. And so you wonder like six four doesn't really shoot three's not necessarily profiling as a primary pick and roll threat so it you know. Sometimes you see guys like that who don't really fit into a mold of at least at this point in time and you're like man number one like why the hell they draft this guy but the number two man. He must be really good at all the stuff that he does do to get by these floods. And there's a little bit of that from it like he's a tough guy. Rugged plays defense might be switchable with that big frame in as a little bit of passing vision as wall was able actually to work off a pick and roll of it more than expected although not exactly operating there necessarily did shoot some jumpers off the dribble from mostly on twos. That looked okay. You mentioned it. Three point rates not particularly high. So i'm interested to see how he develops. Obviously he's going to need to get a passable three point shot or he's just not to be able to play certainly not on this team. But there's a little bit of clay there with his physical profile and it's just hard nosed style that makes you think there could be a little something there as does a joe draft record franklin. Yeah that's a fair point. While another interesting sixer was isaiah joe and not surprisingly for those of us who watched him at editor points. The jump shot is the is the key thing there is. Joe played in four games for the sixers and took ten threes. It came and made thirty eight percent of which was totally totally insane. A lot of that wasn't catch and shoot where isaiah joe. Maybe he just shoots the cover up the ball so that that look good for him. Yeah just a lot of versatility. And that is a ton of threes per game and I mean he doesn't do anything else of as he made a couple of decent passes but a couldn't score it all inside the arc now could couldn't really score inside the arc. I mean he only took. I believe three shots around the basket in all of summer league for a guy who was taking attempting twelve shots a game so like three of. Let's call it forty eight. But yeah i mean i i like how does a different type of guy as versatile jump shot can can fit on the roster and so again like i brought this up with talent was i do i do. I wonder where asia fits in plantation. Yes do i necessarily need to be concerned about that. President joe not really. I mean he's also super thin. You wonder he's a he's a calling him. A one position defender might be charitable at this point in time. Let's get to the blazers now. A few other guys sixers did. I just can't do them. We'll also the question like six hours of this this Got the only thing we should mention for that. Most interesting decision that remade where they had regime tucker on their summer league team and he was on a to way but then they replaced tucker with grim retailer who was on the hornets summer league team at and roller you know he's. He's intrigued a lot over over the last couple of years as a potential creator and ruler was i thought he. He didn't really pop to me in summer league but they did make that change. I wanted to mention it. So people were talking about alec of grant miller like he's really showing up but the overall statiscal resume wasn't particularly outstanding. And so that's why. I was kinda just ready to move on here. Portland and portland. You'll they had a bunch of vets other d like moody a and michael beasley. Who is the third guy. Okay yeah well who who. He's only thirty one. I thought he was. I thought he was over that 'cause he spent so much time blink me think about i mean i was remembering in the early days of dunked on when he signed that invalid extension which was which was so much so much fun while while he didn't sign it. It's reported it was reported. It was really scream. I said probably cost of twelve million bucks but anyway let's let's move out here to the players who are more likely to spend time with him as one of those guys get side Cj llp got a little bit of tick early in his career. Lefty where do you play. Washington state one of those north west washington. Nice nice ball really struggled though offensively here and not a guy with a ton of athleticism and getting a few notes from where you'd flash every once in a while and get some from portland vans on occasion but you know this. This wasn't the most compelling argument that could make it on his own behalf a and that started somehow with what if the worst performances statistically in synergies transition category that. I've ever seen it. It was so bad. I had to watch him. So oh please please regale gillis with every lb. He had twenty two train system possessions that produced eleven points. So i mean you think about all the advantages there there and part of that is because he turned the ball over nine times and nine times nine of twenty two and there were a variety of them. One like one. He kind of was dribbling He was catching kind of catching a in semi-transition stepped out of bounds at a couple of travels but also was when he was getting to the basket a couple times. He just got blocked or biff to lay up. The film was bad. it was it was. It was not what i hope. And then he didn't make up for that. In other ways he was two of sixteen overall in the league on catch and shoot shots better on polyps. Surprisingly a fourteen points on thirteen there. So yeah i mean. I the blazers have to have this group of guys that they rely heavily on and sounds like okay. Can somebody like c. J. o. b. You and i both like mr little. Who didn't play in summer. League mc l. b. l. Didn't really pop for me. Great brown popped in terms of some crazy ass dunks. But how did you feel about him. Overall brawn came out at texas. Another just like crazy athlete from this texas team. Brown's going need to be able to hit some spot upshots. But you know he's able to copy on the defense it get out in transition make plays on the offensive glass it at times So just where is he gonna stand in the half court ican. Maybe learn kinda what not to do from jerry jones junior. You'll be as its teammate. Likely but a guy who just gives them some athleticism that they desperately need another guy kind of throw in the hopper as a wing project for them with jones junior and this year little and now brown as guys who can defend their position hopefully and give them some more in transition and athleticism. And so i thought it was a successful summer league for bron- within the limitations he has as a shooter but as the change in but unrealistic to expect that to take place overnight and he did. You did do the things that he was advertised to do. As far as like playing hard defensively and finding places to finish around the rim etc. Yeah absolutely. I think we could jump to the san antonio spurs and we could start with their I would say surprising. Another guy that we didn't we didn't watch but josh primo went higher than expected. Eighteen year old turns nineteen in Around christmas from from mississauga played alabama and was Was in canada by the way. Yes it is for those. i've mississauga. Actually i have never been to mississauga but But so we with with primo. We didn't watch film. He was one of the earlier strapped guys that like. We didn't even really think about watching film on. Because you i was going to go a little bit lower and that meant it was kind of interesting to see where he was going and i think there were some positive signs even if the overall the overall numbers work by dare you don't necessarily expect that from nineteen year old or starting nineteen year old eighteen year old. I'm gonna get it right some point. Yeah so promote the thing. That was a little odd for a guy who is that young and was you know. Quote unquote reached four. I mean we'll see whether that's really true. But that's what some people said. Was these not like an unbelievable. What was impressive about him with some of the shots Able to tape from three off the dribble ya on a crossover ducking behind a screen You also had a couple of nice finishes like he had a nice nash. Finish high off the glass that one handed of finish over the shop locker so definitely flashed a little bit did primo. It looks like he could be an adequate nba athlete. If not really any kind of a dominating one and the overall stat line was not amazing. He did a hud in pick and roll. And i'm not sure whether that's just because this i didn't have that many other guys you know put trade jones was also playing really well for them who will talk about in a second as an attacker as well. The light guy c. j. l. a. b. He was atrocious in transition. A lot of that was just a missing three pointers. But yeah i mean this is forty. Nine percent of his possessions came in pick and roll And it was eleven out of twenty six at a bunch of turnovers so it seems like maybe the spurs drafted him there because they believe that he could be something as a pick and roll. Party shows the ability to get to the basket a little bit more out of pick and roll than maybe people might have expected. He was actually pretty effective. I as a jump throughout the pick and roll again. This is only twelve possession so the soccer crazy. But i thought premo looked like he could be solid as did he flash superstar upside to be. I wouldn't say that but and it is kind of interesting where he doesn't really have the typical look of a guy who's going to be a big on ball score necessarily even though they asked him to do that also somewhat of an interesting summer league for the ten year old and devin vessel their lottery pick last year he only played in two games In didn't even play a ton in that time. I'm not surprisingly for a second year. I they put the ball in the cells hands a little bit more that part of it. I don't think went particularly well. You know doesn't doesn't really get great spots off the dribble. But i thought his catch and shoot stuff look totally fine and you know try try to transition did play four games overall because they were split as when summer apologize forgotten about that. So that's part of why only played two in big and another guy who did a ton of pick and roll stuff and wasn't very effective at it was only seven out of twenty two m the cell and other guy the first thing to like these guys who can Get along tuesday and facilities pick and rolls just. Didn't get to the basket at all. It was just pulling up for long. Twos So i i wouldn't. I did for vassal tuten. Threes and defending are going to be as co. calling card. I don't necessarily see much more for. It was a bad picker at eleven. Yup he turns out to be a starting level a player with his defense and shooting. That stolley good there at eleven but not a particularly enthralling summer league but i think you can say the opposite of trae jones. Yeah i was very impressed by trade jones forty first pick in twenty twenty. I continue to be a fan of his brother. Who's betas way as a backup point. Guard and draft I'm still. I still think he's a capable backup guard but but to his to his own credit. I thought i thought he was very impressive. In all all of this summer league minutes and was creating we playing with intensity trying to trying to create looks for himself and others. And i thought it it just worked overall. I thought the Did some nice passing in pick and roll was more aggressive getting shots from self. Those didn't always fall. But if i did well. And then he at times he pushed in transition to you had almost nothing. In catching is jumpers off. The dribble. were terrible. Five hundred twenty one. That was the big problem with him. But when you give him the ball and in the summer league setting with his physical abilities like six three six four pre strong now at this point in time and just a very aggressive downhill driver. He's able to get on top of the rim nakai's back as some very impressive finishes and great yet another spur who can't shoot and plays point guard. They've got a million of these guys now but at least able to get to the basket with some of these other guys weren't able to do as much and that also he's a very rugged defender as one. You mentioned that he showed more as a passer than we really had a chance to see from him. In what very limited film we've seen for at the nba level. So that is exciting. Summer league for trade johnson. Whatever a guy can work in pick and roll as he did and could actually get to the basket and finish like that. Part of his game looked pretty good. So that's interesting but stopped me if you've heard this before he's gonna need to improve his jump. What did you think about about joe scam. Who after summer league signed a two way with the spurs. He was the forty first pick like ties. Jones was but he was twenty first or forty. I in twenty one. You have the interesting thing about we. Gap is his size. Six eleven wingspan a full six seven. Eight seven standing reach so bigger than that. Typical shooter guy. I am as we always say with with these sorts of players. The ball's gonna have to go in for you know. There are somewhere like as corey crawford even Better than job we skip. It might be fair to say we'll talk in a second too early to say and really again who who shoots the ball better on. Those guys is going to be a question. We scout worked almost exclusively off the ball as you might expect with him Went back door Quite a bit. Who was a solid as cutter. Which i thought look good that anybody who can shoot also cut. He's got the size to finish a little bit at the rumor as well to thing that you under share on him not particularly. I'm interested you brought up the the size. Like i mean when you think these late or like mid second round picks that are drafted for shooting. They're going to be like six four six five but now he's much use much bigger than that and on a two way see if it works i mean i think of as as being very advantageous for the team very disadvantageous for the player. So if he works then you get match rights and it's very hard to do anything if it doesn't cost you basically nothing. They didn't shoot amazingly well and he wasn't at like isaiah. Joe levels of just jacking up shots with the spurs also. Don't really want guys to do that. So sorry while. We're on the spurs a a note that from from key smith originally that jock glendale who did not play in some league for them. He got a fully guaranteed minimum first year. So he's the fifteenth. As i have it guaranteed player for san antonio a non-guaranteed second year. Are we got two teams left here and this'll be a big one. The toronto the last top ten. Pick that we've yet to discuss. A and that was scotty barnes. Would you think of so. I think that barnes. He brought a fair amount. I would say of the positives that that people like. Some people like them more than we did he play. He played with intensity. He looked capable defensively He didn't have the ball as much like that was just something that the raptors the raptors do they had other players like malachi flynn who filled that role for them on he did. I thought he passed it reasonably well but mike concerns about. Scotty barnes were that. I didn't that. I didn't believe in his jump shot and that i didn't think he was this insane. Like nuclear level athlete. And i think we saw both of those limitations in some early. He did a more blocks then. Easterly at eight blocks which was interesting to see. He was more on the perimeter in florida. State you know the out of it at a playing more conventional pick and roll defence at times also had him switching. I didn't think he was that impressive. As a switch defender keeping guys in front. I thought he got beat. A few times Is gonna have to learn to use linked to contain a little bit more. Perhaps he likes to pressure up and he'd get blown by Didn't turn it over very much. Which i thought was good. You mentioned that. They didn't use them as ball her that much this last game he started getting some of those passes and drives the shooting three eleven from three in his four games and took a couple off the dribble. You know hit what and and got to talk your shipboard is. He loves to talk shit whenever he hits the shot. He and dream dream on and luca. Garza garza shoots well Scotty bars that dream on do not. But i don't know what it is about guy bars kinda compared to on a little bit but about guys. You can't shoot that like when you make it. You're going to talk all this shit. Maybe just the like the other team starts gardenia off to shoot anymore but you certainly more aggressive shooting at than we saw on film at florida state shot forty one percent from the field. I didn't like all the data's a finisher. He got to the line a little bit. He flashed like a little bit of a kind of post up turnaround from the free. Throw line in which i hadn't really seen on the film. liked his floater game. Okay as well and he was good is a rebounder of show a little bit more quick pop athletically like that getting up that high but getting off the ground quickly for dunks around the basket. Not a skywalker. Still and not a guy who's gonna dunk on people but at least can like get off the ground a little quicker and it did seem like he's improves lessons. And so i would say. Feel marginally better about barnes after this summer league but also nothing. That really totally changed how i feel about him. And obviously this is at the very beginning of his development process and the raptors field that they can help make some big strides right and it's going to need to be a longer process interbay because the question was barnes's can't shoot and it's going to take time for that to develop or were not developed in the next highest profile raptor in my eyes was malka. Flynn mostly because precious jewel. We have a better idea of what he is. We'll talk about in planning. But for malachi flynn. He played a lot in that kind of the the tail. End of the raptors season and to me. Flynn and i remember this back from like the first time. He seemed he doesn't pop for me. Athletically seems like a below average athlete. And so that looks a little small author there too so that means that you need to be either a really good shooter really good passer. Both and flint shot thirty two percent. On hundred and seventy. Three's last year in. The nba played a lot more than the nba than the like little spurt in the g. league bubble and shot definitely went in in the small sample size of summer league. Forty one percent on threes. Taking seven point two per game and he had some nice passes to Got a couple of shots around. Got a couple shots around the basket. So i i still in very skeptical for me with malachi flynn. It's basically the the idea that the realistic best-case not the exclusive ninetieth ninety fifth percentile outcome is that he's a good backup point guard and for me. That's not the type of thing that i go gaga over with the first round. Pick this kind of comes up with pressure. Twenty ninth overall. Yes so it's so. Like i felt fine about malachi flynn and this was and this was one of his better performances. So i'm fine with him if he could be Continue to be good as a shooter. You mentioned. He took over seventy game three assists game. He's not a great passer. I'm not sure how good inside once he gets. Inside the arc. How effective is going to be in. Pick and roll up. But it didn't help that his assist total that guy's just shot really poorly off the passes that he did make out a picket role so he's a little bit better. I think as a pastor than those twelve assists in four games would indicate so it seems like he's on an okay trajectory me not so new blue oper- anything like that but I'll be interested to see him. He's going to have some chances to play this year. Another guy who will presumably have chances to play. This year's presses shula twentieth pick and twenty twenty made by the miami heat he joined the raptors a little bit late because the trade had to be consummated and because they compress time line of this mba year. that took. that's still played about seventy five minutes over three games. An virtue of the question is has long been like can he. What kind of defensive player is easy It can be rim-protector as you more swifty and i think that especially going to the raptors like the hope is that it can be more onto switching big side of that coin and i would say there was some good film. They're not it wasn't like woodcrafts like oh he could defend anybody right now but i did. I did like some of what i saw. It'll get some big blocks on occasion as well. We haven't seen anything develop for him as a shooter which was the thought that maybe he could shoot more from the outside of being and it's petitioning to watch his evolution where we saw him at the hoops summit in. When would that have been. That would have been nineteen yet. You know he was really playing more of like a combo forward groto but since then certainly gotten stronger where he looks is a little undersized for center but with his athleticism i it seems like it's going to work for them that that's his position now a. m. he liked to take a lot of jumpers off. The dribble was an okay shooter from three. You thought that maybe given that pedigree that things would evolve for more on the offense vent than being just dunker. That's all he's been asked to do so far it really all. He was asked to do it in the summer. League performance was really pick and roll roll man and getting out in transition where he wasn't. You know officiant. You'd hope that he could be a little bit better. A finisher as particularly a non dunks around the room. You'd like to see him work on his touch a little bit. Who else wants to talk about. I wouldn't say one of those so we're getting to the point now where we're more concerned about his free throw shooting a chula got to the line got to the line reasonably well. I mean seven. Six attempts in twenty six minutes. I mean summer. Lisa guys are packing like crazy but he shot thirty five percent. Free throws in summer league shot sixty percent in his one year at memphis and he only chew will only played seven hundred minutes last year but he was fifty one percent from the free throw line. And so we're you guys can improve on that from their early twenties to their mid twenties. But he's he's in that range now. Where it's making me feel queasy. I've a friend who who's a doctor. We we always go skiing together as i'm lamenting to him about like my latest. Sorry injury or tendinitis or something from skiing hill. He'll just be like That's that's what i meant to do. Now when you mentioned something concerning about a player just hit a little bit empathy. But yeah he's bad pre through Yes that is that is indeed concerning delano doina band with somebody that i enjoyed watching in person. I actually watched a fairmount rappers. Scotty barnes of course and forty six pick plays with intensity and athleticism was all around the floor especially in that game that really fun game that they had a really fun fun game. They had against the. The rockets had some defensive player and finishes the overall efficiency numbers were far from great. I mean he ended up with thirty seven percent true shooting on twenty three usage. But there were some building blocks here an baton is still east twenty one. I was gonna say still young because he kind of looks a little bit young but no he's not. He turns twenty two he. This'll be age. Twenty two rookie. Year out of nebraska. Yeah what's his game like. Well so i thought that for me was more on the defensive end like he was bouncing around. Two percents had a couple of opportunistic blocks. Which i i always appreciate and was was aggressive impassable inside a i had a couple on ball steals as well and then i didn't really get a feel for what is for what his offensive game is. It seemed there wasn't a whole lot of offensive game. There got a couple of like opportunistic. he handles. He's eugenie handles it outside some right. Yeah yet he handles it outside. They gave him they give him the keys a little bit in pick and roll actually more than a little bit. It was a little bit in the game. I think he got it a little bit more later. In the raptors in the raptors summer league time ended up with forty two pick and roll possessions. So but i wonder about his. The pull up shot didn't really look driving to pass and that can work but i don't think it's i don't think that's going to be something he does at the nba level. At least not for a while. This is a physical propositioning. Six nine not over nine foot standing reach and a six ten wingspan someone. Who's handling the ball and pick and rolls it kind of interesting and obviously defensive. I mean clearly. He's sort of like kind of poor. Man's skype aren't they definitely have loaded up on a lot of guys of this is like bonkers now on this team also and the raptors they have this unusual dynamic where they have they only eleven guaranteed guys as of now but they have. I think it's five partial guarantees varying levels and then they have to nine to two way guys. Both of whom were on their team. I would say the most interesting to me of the other guys. That participated was freddie. Gillespie gillespie was on the raptors. Last year had a couple of really fun blocks still want. What is his offensively but brought energy as a as a rebounder energy opportunistic shop locker. And he's six nine. I think the more as a as a four play baylor and so he he was interesting. Will i mean. I thought he had some nice rim protection. Plays holy shit. This guy could not finish no at all. He was four of sixteen around the rim this as a center and he didn't get that many offensive rebounds office mrs but he had a lot of mrs. That's true for the raptors. Let's get to finish things out here with the wizard. We'll talk about guys here. Corey kiss bird and isaiah todd. Let's start with kiss burt. 'em he tried. I think to really expand the type of shots that he is taking from three versus where he was in college where you would take some shots off of movement but a lot of transition like it wasn't the sort of dunkin robinson type of stuff so he tried to add that stuff but he's got this low release that's out in front of his body and it seems like with the shot for me. He's very reliant on getting his momentum moving towards the basket he also shoots like kinda symmetrically know. He doesn't really have like one part of his body. These other rights by more in front and so when he's moving kinda off-balance. You know you can't come to do like that kickout with the leg like someone like dunkin robinson would a little bit if he's moving to his right a right handed shooter. You tries to do it. It just did not look very comfortable for him. It looks like he's trying to speed up is released but it's bad misses when he was doing that. So i'll only add two assists. But i didn't like his decisiveness as a driver with those opportunities presented themselves didn't finish i think as well as he would have wanted to but you know some of those where he was getting pretty good looks. It just didn't go in for them. That's gonzaga disease. Because it seemed. Things seem to happen to jalen socks but he was efficient as a cutter and finish sure a in college. I will get their. He'll probably get compared to doug. Mcdermott is he's more athletic. Stronger than doug mcdermott Still a little slow afoot defensively if gulnara changes of direction. But i could be adequate there you know. I don't think he's just mean he may have a target due to the. Shall we say type of player that he is a but he doesn't suck he's not as bad as like doug. Mcdermott was when he came to the league. Ginsburg to not. He's not really to me a defensive playmaker he's going to be getting makes them opportunistic stuff in passing lanes. I think he understands what's going on. But i don't think in that respect but yeah i think he's more stable defensively. Then mcdermott an for kisser this to me like it was a reminder that while i'm not freaked out about super freak data shot. I think your points are very well taken in terms of his release and they're trying to hit what he's what he's opened on spot-ups. I mean that's that's not why you draft the guy fifteenth doesn't really have any other standout skills exactly stand there and make open shots. Yeah so the. I was thinking about this idiot kuenssberg. He shot twenty nine percent on six threes per game. If you watch the full numbers on its seven to twenty four overall. Which isn't great. He has one of the larger volumes of like pre nba. I mean we're talking about draft picks guys who played music for twenty years because he took six hundred sixty two threes gonzaga and bid forty-one percent of them like that. That's very good but he as you said like the nba is a very different thing. And he you know i. I ended up seeing a fair amount of his film watching suggs and few other and just watching because they were the they were the best team a lot of last year. And the problem is that i don't see a lot of like kind of connective tissue Can improve like you know he. I think he has said he understands what's going on out there. But he is already twenty two. This'll be his age twenty two season and not really a defense maker. So you need that plus skill to be plus plus and then also move everything else up to the. It's not going to kill you face. And it's possible with casper but that's why he was overdraft and then isaiah todd did show as we saw some flashes of julian. You're watching other players show better than advertised feet defensively the he did show some to build. If he's gonna play the ford and you need to have that he's not a five of for sure you know he just doesn't have that type of size a and pop unfortunately extremely poorly operated almost exclusively behind the three point line where he was only five out of twenty one. Remember also both with respect to kiss. Burt and todd. That the wizards severally team got really messed up by covert right at the start as well and a game postponed so their practice timer was no good. At least todd was able to get up seven threes game and he did that only twenty four minutes. A game played only three games. Of course ca- due to that so didn't really do much else in the g. league. They ran to post ops forum. Where he's able to shoot dirk fades out of the posted and stuff like that. That wasn't really featured at also. The one thing that i could say i really learned about todd was that he does have some ability to move his feet defensively and hopefully all learned more than one thing about everyone who played at summer league. Hopefully we got to everyone. That is really important. I mean i think we get pretty much everyone who was drafted this year and obviously every first round pick ever news the first round pick last year as well as any clear path the rotation minutes and this is always one of the most fun things to do for us. it's Rather exhausting doing it while traveling through europe this year but it needs to get done. That's what you guys pay us for us. So always fun to bring this one to you and i'm not even sure exactly when this is going to drop or what our next podcast is going to be. But they so much for being a subscriber and we'll talk to you all soon if you're feeling depressed or struggling with uncertainty or having difficulty sleeping. 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