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The Success of Pastellist Rosalba Carriera

Stuff You Missed in History Class

28:07 min | 1 year ago

The Success of Pastellist Rosalba Carriera

"SMART is open open is smart. IBM is combining their industry expertise with the open source leadership of Red Hat. Let's unlock the world's potential essential. Let's put smart to work learn more at IBM dot. com slash red hat. Welcome to stuff you missed in history class a production the heart radio how stuff works hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm holly FRY and I'm Tracy B Wilson Tracy. Everybody knows that I waxed rhapsodic all the time about the Sheila. She is one of my very favorite artists. This is not about her but she's kind of loosely tied to it. We haven't featured artists biography in a minute and I love them so today. We're GonNa talk about someone he was actually one of visual Lebron's influences and that is Roselle carry etta who had been on my list for a bit and then she also came up in a discussion that Tracy and I were having recently we are also coming up on her birthday so it. Kinda seemed like a good time to talk about her. Surprising level of success in the male dominated European art world of the early seventeen hundreds. It's a little surprising because most people don't really know about her unless they study our history. She's not one of the great painters that you get the list of in a standard art class and much of what we know about the particulars of cutting Atas life come from her diary which was initially published in seventeen ninety three that was almost forty years after she died and since she was pretty clearly not intending for that diary to be published biography her life story has largely been piece together through the notes that she was taking in that diary on her daily daily life and some of those are fairly inconsistent in terms of like how she listed her commissions in their status and their payments so really it was like if you have a checklist or some sort of journal where you keep track of what's going on in your day imagine if that got published his life story probably people would think you were maybe disorganized organized or just inconsistent but I think most people are for example. She had a system of marking things but it seemed to change and evolve and there's some notations that no one's really decided yet exactly what they meant. Whether they included lake sitting time or it was like a system to denote what phase of of the business transaction they were at making it doc sort of tricky and additionally she did not keep any sort of consistent diary. After the late seventeen twenty she fell off of that habit so even what we have is is kind of a small section of her life but she was incredibly successful in her lifetime but because of the nature of her work in the art that she did in her style of art kind of falling out of favour after her lifetime all of which you're going to talk about her story has largely been forgotten outside of art history circles so we're going to give her a little love today. Rose Alba Giovanni Carrio was born in Venice Italy on October. Seventh Sixteen seventy five some sources list her birthdate as at the end of sixteen. AM seventy three her father Andrea Keto was a legal clerk and the government and her mother Alba foresty carriere was a lace maker. Resolve Alba had two sisters her sister Giovanni might have been born in sixteen seventy five and that could have contributed to this confusion on the birthdates. Her youngest sister star was Zola's Cecilia was born in sixteen seventy seven and Zola would later marry the famed Venetian painter Giovanni Antonio Pellegrini and Zola. You will sometimes see her name appear anglicised to Angela so if you're ever looking anything up about them that's what's going on there and resolved by most likely learned earned lace making from her mother but most of the information that we have about this is pretty speculative. It is certainly possible that she learned this trade. It's also possible that her initial artistic cystic efforts were making lace designs for her mother but we don't really know we do that. At some point she turns a visual art. She might have been tutored by one or more of Venice's menaces prominent artists at the time these included Antonio Lozari the engraver the Mancini and painter Antonio Balestra all of them have come up up as possible mentors but it's not totally clear whether she received formal instruction for many of them she started to render portraits in miniature on snuff boxes which were popular with tourists in Venice one of the things that made her work and snuff box portrait's unique was use of ivory as a background rather than Bellum and using tempera as the painting medium that use of ivory eventually became commonplace in miniature portraiture but she was the first known to do this and in her first known pastel portrait which is something she came to be known for was begun most likely in sixteen ninety nine so she was already in her twenty s at that point and it was a rendering during the artist and art dealer Antonio Muddy as an Eddy in nineteen fifteen. That is a significant jump. Come with us. Austin Dobson wrote of resolve bus choice to work in pastels a medium that was not particularly popular and he wrote quote in oil painting the field was crowded with formidable competitors but the less popular Pastel with it's brilliant contrast and Silvery transparencies. It's vivid tints and velvety softness offered special facilities for the display of Hers Alba's gifts as well as the disguise of deficiencies so to this point pastels were mostly used just for quick drawing studies or preparatory reparatory sketches to lay out a work that was going to later be rendered in oil her our work was quickly recognized a special she was still young and pretty new in the field and within a very short we're time was. Alba had become a member of Rome's prestigious Academy of the same Luca and that was an association that sought to govern educate and elevate the arts yeah that was by some accounts within a year of her release starting her art career so that's quite notable and gained a significant enough following that when nobles and royalties visited Venice they were sure to commission portraits either in miniature or in larger size throughout her early career her reputation rapidly spread spread throughout Europe due to these tourists commissions when the wealthy visitors then brought their cutty Atta portraits back home they showed them off to their friends and thus expanded her audience chance who all hoped that they would eventually get their own. Rosetta portraits made among her commissions in her early career reports of Maximilian the second of Bavaria and Frederick the fourth fourth of Denmark in seventeen eight when Ferdinando Carlo Gonzaga Duke of Mantua and Mantra died Rozelle carrier assisted stood and managing his art collection that was distributed to new owners catalog the pieces that were involved in sent the lists to buyers she also copied one of the works of the painter Guido Kenya. which was the Duke's collection she that as a study? There's a lot of talk of copies throughout her career like she would make copies of other people's work people would copy her work. It did not seem to have the same concern in terms of legality or stealing of intellectual property that it does at this point on April first seventeen nineteen. Rosellas father died and this was of course a very difficult loss. The family was incredibly close but it also on the upside opened up some avenues of opportunity because up to that point resort had stayed her entire life in Venice but once he passed she felt free to travel for the the first time which people wanted her to do and she was in her forties at that point so in seventeen twenty Kerry Atta who is encouraged by collector Pierre Croisette traveled to Paris had assured her that Paris would just love her and he was right. We really should pause for a moment to acknowledge how influential and important portent Croisette was in the European art world at the time over his lifetime. He amassed one of the most impressive private art collections in history in this collection election which was augmented and further developed by his nephew after his death was acquired in its entirety by the State Hermitage museum in Saint Petersburg Russia in seventeen seventy two part of Catherine the great private collection this was one of the biggest art acquisitions of its time the entire collection remains at the hermitage to this day so all of that is to conceptualize the fact that when Croisette told Rose Alba Carreira that she should come to Paris as his his guests and it would be good for her career. That advice was carrying considerable weight and in just a moment we will talk about this big. Paris trip which most art historians reaons note as an incredibly important event in caveat his life but first. We're going to take a quick sponsor. Break Technology is becoming more open and data more accessible and the world more innovative. IBM's combining their industry expertise with the open source leadership of Red Hat to bring you more freedom more security more flexibility. Let's unlock the world's potential. Let's put smart to work learn more at IBM. Dot Com slash red hat when she traveled to Paris. Resolve Oba brought her entire remaining family along for the ride her sister and Zola and has been Giovanni Pellegrini accompanied her Pellegrini having his own business to conduct in Paris on a commission to paint a bank ceiling her sister she Ivana had begun to assist her in her work and so she traveled with her and her mother was also part of their traveling party while in France Alba painted several dozen commissions including one of Louis the fifteenth he was still a child of ten at the time while Louis the fourteenth fourteenth had died five years earlier Louis. The fifteenth wasn't actively ruling yet due to his young age. This portrait features Louis the fifteenth in a red coat with the Blue Sash and a white lace. Jabot surrounded by a main of curly hair has large brown is that become the focal point of the portrait. They're rendered in slightly sharper harper detail than his other features yeah. There's an eyelash situation going on in that painting that I love Keti trip to Paris also resulted in her being invited aided joined the French Royal Academy on the merit of that portrait of Louis wants. The members of the academy saw her rendering of what they were calling the dough fan again. There's weird thing with him. Not Quite being king yet her acceptance was according to her own diary instant and unanimous and this was truly a moment of note as women were rarely admitted to the academy and I think on previous occasions there had been a lot of voting involved career a sense Pastel to the Royal Academy in Paris as part of her admits and as a member was called nymph Dilemma Sweet Dep alone. It's in the collection of the Louvre today while she had been accepted based on her portrait of Louis the fifteenth he wanted to send a different work which she shipped later on from Venice and she wrote of this portrait quote. I have tried to depict a young girl knowing that to youth. Many faults are forgiven. She also stands for a nymph of Apollo's choir goes on her own part to offer to the Academy of Paris a wreath of laurels judging body alone worthy to wear it and to preside over all the others. There were a number of reasons that the timing was perfect for resolved to visit Paris one was that there was this new trend among the aristocracy to buy their own Paris apartments rather than living at Versailles. There was also a rising merchant class lasts that also found themselves suddenly having property and they all needed art decorate those spaces but of course the wall space available in apartments was smaller than what they had been. UCLA Tracy. I've been versailles. Those walls are large ready for big art so any smaller spaces they needed appropriately sized our work so a portraitist assists that was brought to the city and lauded by one of the continent's most well known and well respected art collectors was in high demand indeed thus her many many commissions and the other factors had to do with the shift in appreciation for pastels in their work before this era oil painting had been far more popular her because production of plate glass had had advanced significantly delicate pastel works could be preserved without fear that the powdery pigment would flake. AAC or would follow the backing that made larger portrait pieces possible instead of just the miniatures that had started carrier as career and one other significant perfect contributor was the advancement in the production of Pastel crayons as Pastel work became more and more highly regarded in part because of his skill in popularity an industry of art suppliers rose up to meet it crayon maker started producing more and more colors artists could easily carry them to clients homes to work work. There was no drying time and it did not take up nearly as much space to invite a pastel artist into your home to make your portrait as it would have an oil painter who might require a lot more sittings and also need to leave that work in situ between those sittings occupying a chunk of your house despite her great success in France though Oh she wanted to return to Venice after a year of being the toast of Paris also coincided with a significant financial crash in France that had been brewing doing for some time under the regent the Duke of Orleans was Alba career had ties to the Scottish economist John Law who served as controller Francis Finances finances at the Duke of Orleans Appointment Law had been responsible for the creation of the financial disaster known as the Mississippi bubble which was the catalyst for this the whole crash he ended up fleeing Paris in the dead of night giddy sort of captured laws last few days in Paris in her journal describing days that involved loved meeting with him as the bank notes that he had been issuing were completely devalued in riots began in the city. There's one entry where she just starts bad day. She had been working hang on commission for him so she was pretty immediately adjacent to the family as they were planning to leave delve into the specifics of the economy in her accounts of each day but once he left she just kind of busied herself with all of the other work that she had been hired to do as much as they had been very entwined in each other's lives up to that point joint once he's gone she kinda just wipe the slate clean on him and doesn't really refer to again she had among her other commissions a portrait of the artist. Antoine Watto but also worked for a number of other nobles that she wasn't really all that interested in so in seventeen twenty one having made a nice bit of money and worked tirelessly for more than a ear resolve returned home to Italy as a little historical Trivia side Note Antoine Lotto is where the name Watteau pleats come from which if you look get pictures of dresses from this century and Marie Antoinette dresses as well those long pleats that start at the back of the neck and and Kerry down in cascade those are named named after him because he painted them so beautifully in seventeen twenty three Rose Alba went to Dan Italy and created several portraits of the Princess Enriqueta yesterday as well as the rest of the Duke's daughters. The intent was that these portrait's would be sent around a potential marriage matches which was a pretty common practice and Rick Cata was one of the young women who was on the short list of potential wives for Louis the fifteenth of France but holly wasn't able to discern whether he got one of these portrait threats and part of his search for a suitable queen and by the time whereas returned home to Venice from Medina Shit a raft of commissions waiting for her ordered from from all over Europe particularly in England people had really fallen in love with her work and she had become one of the wealthiest and most successful artists of her time working in a medium that no one had been especially interested in before she began creating portraits. One of the things that's interesting is in some cases people would send her portrait's that other artists had made of them and said can you do you a better version and she also had a constant list of people who wanted to be taught by her and seventeen thirty she traveled to Vienna and became my favourite of Charles. The Sixth Holy Roman Emperor Elizabeth Christine who was the empress asked her to teach her after the artist had completed her portrait trip after Vienna carry a returned once again Venice and for the next several years her life was really a steady stream of work and then in seventeen thirty seven then everything changed when Rosetta Sisters Giovanni died on May Ninth Giovanni as we mentioned had assisted resolve Inter Studio and the two of them were very close. They often referred to as best friends and confidants. They were so close that in one of the Katyushas self portrait that she produced in Seventeen fifteen she had chosen to include a portrait of her sister her. She's holding that portrait in her hands so they're kind of together in this self portrait and then to add another tragedy in seventeen thirty eight their mother. Alba also so died and this combination of grief as well as the loss of her trusted assistant really slowed Kitty Eva's productivity significantly by the seventeen forties another a problem arose that further stunted her work. She started to have some trouble in her vision by seventeen forty five or seventeen forty six at the end of the decade age. She had surgery to try to correct her cataracts. This was probably what's called couching and that involves surgically depressing the Opaque Lens to the bottom of the eye to let the light in around the time that carrier ahead her surgery a French physician named Jacques Danielle was experimenting with cataract extraction but it's not likely that she had this new procedure. Some accounts suggest that the surgery was what caused her total blindness but it's more likely that the couching didn't affect any permanent affects after the surgery she had written to a friend that she seemed quite hopeful. Regardless any improvement that she might have had in her vision was pretty short short-lived and within a few years her renowned and successful career had ended because she was completely blind. Yeah couching is one of those procedures that actually still it'll happens today. In less advanced countries is not the best way to deal with cataracts but it is sort of fascinating if you're into is science and during this late period of her work in the seventeen forties while her site was failing resolvable produced what is believed to have been her last self portrait in this portrait is fifty six point seven by forty five point eight centimeters. There's about twenty two by eighteen inches to give you a sense of the size of the portrait she was doing its rendered on buff paper and in it she has aged and the tone of the pieces quite casual. She actually made this for a friend but what's interesting is that even though her eyesight was going her technique remains a striking as ever she rendered the lace jewelry really beautifully you through the careful use of texture to mimic detail. Her work is one of those things that when you get right up to it it just looks like a bunch of strokes and then you just take one step cut back and everything kind of snaps into a a really beautiful focus with some softness to a lot of the pieces and she was still just as good even really struggling with her eyesight eight as she had been earlier in her life in the years that followed was Alba lived in her home in business with her surviving sister who had been widowed. She dictated her correspondence is to her friends and had news and literature read to her but she was unwilling to go out very often in December of seventeen fifty six she made out her will leaving everything she had her sister and a few other relatives and resolve died on April fifteenth seventeen fifty seven in Venice at the age of eighty-one. She was buried right next to her sister. Giovanni in the Church of San Vito in San Modesto she had popularized Pastel portraiture to a point where she was one of the most copied artists lists of all time and in a way the timing of her passing was for two it is she did not live quite long enough to see the Rococo frills that were so much of a part of her work fall out of favor. The timing of her death which took place in the early seeds of neo classes were being sown. They contributed to her name. Falling falling out of the public eye and see relative obscurity especially compared to some of her male counterparts still she has continued to delight art historians even in recent years and we're. We're going to talk about that. After we take another quick sponsor break. Let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom. Let him stay on the ice by some nights he even slept in his hockey skates. Pete Practiced List and practiced until one day when he was forty seven Pete realized he just wasn't that good so he threw his skates in the trash but then he heard how GEICO proud partner order of NHL good save money on car insurance so he switched and saved a bunch so it all worked out and one of the things that gives Roselle Becca the Atas work. It's a theory of beauty also added a dimension of danger to shipping her pieces uses around to their various destinations pastels are of course just sticks of pigment and a filler that makes them opaque that retain their crayon shape through some sort of binding medium. Pastel works don't require drying time but they can be easily smudged or distorted and often in letters or diary notes caveat mentioned concerns turns about her portraits making to their recipients intact. Rosello is so concerned about the safety of her works that she even included little good luck charms when she she sipped them in two thousand seventeen one of these was discovered by the Royal Collection Trust and that's the organization that's tasked with the management and care of the British royal art collection and residences and seventeen sixty two george the third purchase the entire collection of Joseph Smith was a British art agent and collector collector who lived in Venice during carrier is career. She produced several works for Smith over the years including a personification of winter which carrier carrier it produced in the seventeen twenty s and this piece of work features a young woman with dark hair wrapped in a fur-lined cloak and the closest falling off of one shoulder pursue her shoulder and her necker exposed and her faces at an angle and it's quite striking and it is rendered on blue paper although you really can't see very much actual blew through the Pastel and the young woman looks just luminous the softness of the pastels maker skin look utterly velvety and also sort of glory while details like the ribbons in her hair and in her earring looked sharper in contrast with glints of light on them and Joseph Smith described this work in his list of his collection as quote the most excellent this virtuoso ever painted a conservative or working with this artwork discovered a tiny card tucked in between the arts wooden frame and the canvas liner this is a small card four point three by three point three centimeters and it features the three Maj I which was a topic that carrier was very fond of and this card wasn't exactly a surprise there is plenty of documentation that resolvable placed images of the magic into parcels with her works when she shipped them she would tell associates associates that all of her works that traveled with their little saints that Santini in Italian always got to their destination safe and sound as the conserva worked with this this piece extra-carefully because of the fragile nature of pastels they notice the small piece of paper and it was immediately recognized as one of carrier is good lex. Sereni cards and because pastels continue to be a topic of conservation discussions in the modern era and because often the basis used for older pastel art our fragile themselves so like the paper backings. There are not a huge number of special exhibits featuring pastels that were made during resolvable time including hers. Here's the lack of varnish like varnish. A Pastel means that fading is a real concern for some of them and exposure to light has to be carefully managed so that also contributes the difficulty of shipping pieces for special exhibitions by the good news is that because she was so popular and prolific during her time and her work was collected so so avidly throughout Europe you can find Rozelle carrier as works and many museums throughout the world as well as checking out her work online we already mentioned the Heritage Heritage Museum in Saint Petersburg Russia and the Louvre in Paris and her work is also in the collections at the National Gallery of Ireland the met in New York the Museum Zima Fine Arts Boston and the Harvard art museums. The trick is making sure the work is on display before you go because pastels require really careful preservation so so they're not always on display for the public yeah they're spectacularly beautiful but it's one of those things where even like the vibration of moving it from spot to spot can affect how it looks which makes them all the more special in my opinion so. I have a little bit of Listener Mail this is from our Listener Melissa and she writes hi Tracey and Holly. Absolutely love your podcast. I'm a scientist by training but absolutely love learning about everything. I'd probably still be university taking courses if I didn't have bills to pay which may explain why chose to teach at a university. Thank you so much by the way for being an educator from US recently. My Dad was cleaning out. My great aunt's home. After she passed away she was career woman who worked for the New Yorker. 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Seedlings - The Growing Power Of Children's Literature

Cultivating Place

1:01:42 hr | 1 year ago

Seedlings - The Growing Power Of Children's Literature

"This is cultivating place conversations on natural history in the human impulse to garden. I'm Jennifer Joel with what we put into our heads with words tones of voice. Visualizations verbally painted melodic pneumonic new monarchs deployed. We learn the world around us at deep cellular levels from the moment were receiving energetic information in the wound to the very last of our days we know from anecdotal and personal experience. That gardeners are born often from early childhood experiences at the knees of parents grandparents neighbors and neighboring plants and places. While I can't can't take every child outside with me. I can't hand them. All fresh carrots with the clean dirt just brushed off. I can't point to the earthworm worm or the Hummingbird as we hike across a meadow but with mind over matter. I can conjure all of these things almost as powerfully. I can metaphorically an emotionally nourish children sing to them and take them on a field trip through the power of reading to them of all of these wonders and their immeasurable value complexity and beauty this week. We explore the power of Children's literature richer to prepare our young gardners today for their actions of tomorrow. We're joined in this by two students of an advocate. It's four the importance of children's literature. Heather Altfeld poet Essayist and Faculty member in the Honors Program and the Comparative Religion and Humanities Department at California State University Chico as well as Theresa Carrio Supervisor and instructor in in the School of Education at the California State University. Chico are both in the studio with me today. Welcome to you both. Thank you for having US pleasure to be here so I want to get started with the two of you. I giving listeners. A little background on your. You were work with children's literature. What brought you to it as a field of study and a field of educating others and sharing with others and how you see it interface in your own lives or in the life of your professional work with teaching people the values the use of nature and gardening implants? Let's start with you Teresa well. I have a master's degree three and multicultural children's literature from the University of San Francisco and that opened my world to knowing and telling lean of people's stories. It began to ask questions for me. Of who story. Can we tell. And who story do we often hear. And who story do we not hear. That of course took straight into the classroom because at the time I was a high school teacher and I looked at the faces of the students in my classroom room and it became a became a love language of needing to know more their stories and telling their stories and writing of their stories the continued for me then as a mother When my son was born and I took a break from teaching and I would go to the library and I would literally early come home with thirty forty fifty children's literature books and we would read and read? We read so through that there is just just a couple that have really been standouts No there's a stories in your mind that you just keep coming back to you and your life in new and honest ways But this whole time. I'm still thinking about my students and knowing that their stories are often not told. And so how can I now. As an educator continue that work of knowing people stories because by knowing people stories it enriches my life and then of course the could be in connected did to each other can be very rich and the stories that I brought today have this connection to Earth And observing I'm being honest and growing growing together heather. Let's go to you. What took you to children's literature in the beginning and Tell us a little bit about your history with it so I would say. I Love Really was Charlotte's Web. I fell completely in love with the story. I read it when I was about five five and a half and to see it made an indelible impression on my life is such an understatement. I I think of it very very often. I actually just got a kitten. Who he named Wilbur? And it set me on a course for very very early on I. There's at first as as the audience for the literature falling in love with these characters over and over again often in animals but humans as well and the morality is the or the various moralities I was able to absorb absorb as an audience carried me forward into adulthood. And when I started to develop develop I suppose you know intellectually I was able to see the deep significance in deep wisdom in some of the best children's literature. Her that is there and how often it works on metaphorical level to instruct us us in simple lessons of kindness and compassion especially for the planet and for The natural world. Where did you do your studies? I studied at Columbia University Anthropology and writing and actually I wrote my entrance essays on Charlotte's web which was Kind of a funny. You know you get those questions on the essay exams at Columbia. And it's like tell us about got a book that has been meaningful to you and you know. I'm sure lots of people use the second volume of Proust's or something to show off and I use Charlotte's web because that really was the book that still continued to speak to me especially in Matters of the acceptance of death and very very difficult things is to think about and talk about with children and then I continued to Study Waldorf Education when my children were little and that exposed to both a greater realm of literature as well is giving me a sense of how it fits more clearly into into the educational strata of Childhood Now we keep using this term children's literature and that's kind of a big big name for kids books whatever however whatever we might define it as but it actually is now a codified field of study. You both have done formalized Malaya's studies in this. Let's define our terms a little bit. And why don't we start with you. Heather and give us a little bit of a definition nation of what what do we mean when we say children's literature and then we'll talk The three of us about the different subsets within that bigger umbrella. So this is a really interesting question and it's one that when I've taught my class the literature the child at Chico stayed aide. I've addressed it the first day of class and we continue to talk about it and what I think of you know. There are about five thousand children's books published every year but that doesn't make all of them particularly literary many of them are books. What's that have been written As addendums for marketing children's television shows And so when I think about literature I think about Works that have the ability to reveal. The conscious conscious minded the child and speak to their anxieties to their fears their obsessions their preoccupations and to do so well well That the language is beautiful that there's an aesthetic component to the production that reveals to the child a certain certain sense that they're they're not less than the adult world. Yeah and I think also With respect to language some of the best children's writers and I see you brought first tomato oh by Rosemary Wells a book I could talk about forever. the attention to the musicality of language to the rhythm to the Metrics even of the line As a as a poet I think those are really important and they have an effect on children for years. Yeah for a lifetime yes. I agree wholeheartedly because the literature that you read are things that really stay in your heart for a long time their stories that you can read over and over and over again with multi faceted ways that you can grow and think about and challenge yourself and cultivate yourself That you just pulled onto And I think from the multi- multicultural children's perspective It really goes into that idea of how how can we learn from each other Who is writing stories and you know? Do we have the right to tell somebody else's story you And so You know honoring your people honoring the place of where you live how you're connected to land and your environment And how you can grow from there so that was a richness for me of learning to know other people stories stories that maybe I hadn't always been familiar with in my life and though they were also very rich stories. It's always wonderful to know other stories. He's yeah and I think as our culture right now in the kind of collective consciousness and more openly are grappling appaling with issues of what it is to be a multicultural culture. Really truly representivity We see some of this coming out in our children's lit and the evaluation or criticism of it age old beloved children's writers are coming under some probably well deserves scrutiny for The ways in which their work perpetuated or were complicit in a cultural narrative that persisted or allowed exclusion to persist whether they intended that or not that right. There speaks to the power of children's literature to carry area narrative and it's a narrative that we at this point in time especially sitting here at this table can think about very consciously say is that a narrative that we want to perpetuate or is it one. We want to read and evaluate openly with the child that were speaking with or for how we handle that I think is up to each person but to be at that sort of Meta level of awareness about the power of what we read need to our children and show to them I think is really beneficial. It is painful of course to have someone like Dr seuss or or Maurice Sendak or whoever it might be called into question and yet it's expanding for all of us it's it's an important thing exercise In in this conversation especially when it comes to how we value other people's stories how we allow space for other people's stories than our own and Just being as cognizant as we can in that in that space of course children's literature also covers just an insane spectrum of ages and reading levels and comprehension levels and even in older young adult literature. And here you can go to Harry Potter or Some you know the chronicles of Narnia or some of these That are aimed at an older more. Read on your own set of work. There is a visual will aspect that is really powerful and in the younger children's literature of course that's one of the things that's hard to get across in a conversation on the radio because the illustrations say as much more than the words and so that ability for a child to cold aboard aboard book and just look at the images Is a whole education in and of itself. Tell us about the different categories and how they are kind of have formally defined by children's literature fields of study like is there a board book is at five and under is it. What is what are the categories? Ladies I think about board books I used to call them. Edible books children just it. They're they're every they're partially for reading partially for looking and partially for nibbling TV All of our children's books have major tooth marks around the edges. If not missing pages but I don't know I mean the board book actually think of it as sort of a late nineties marketing Tool that that allowed sort of compressed versions of longer books to be marketed towards very very young toddlers and there were really not very many board books around it. This is an when you wish phenomenon pat. The bunny was one of the oldest ones. The Runaway Bunny has been inboard book form. Good night moon for quite a while but the those are really you think of them as being newish new ish but they were. I'm telling you a really good idea. Law should come a longtime sooner. Yeah the one that has the most teeth marks at my house is Jam Berry. Oh that one yeah that one. Go Dog go And the ones that aren't books that are for that same age group all have ripped pages ages that are taped together as a result of not being bored books. Yeah this is what's called being loved and wanting to go back to the memories and the stories when in your children can even though they're pre reading they are still telling you the stories of have memorized this is love. This is The literary journey that we take our children and our students and the world through that. So Yeah I. I don't WanNa disclaimer claim or take away from a book just because it's a board Bono right so in its simplicity. How words are simple but also found and then then I just think that An author who's capable of writing a book and this thirty two page format I've spoken with authors before of you know novels and they say oh. It's so much harder to write a children's book because you really have to nail it you have to write these words contained in within this format and so that's profound for me to think about right. I'm getting my point across in this very structured way a But I also agree that idea of You know richness of words can be as equally. I thought provoking in a very short format Ideas and concepts and challenges in just a few pages and in some in in some ways it almost seems like you know it's like a little nugget a little something you know Do I have to read on and on for doctors like maybe my it might myself is is more capable of kind of understanding things in this kind of smaller way like. I don't want to ever have to stop reading children's book in fact I often. Then we'll tell educator saying in highschool highschool educators to go to a multicultural children's literature book may be from the the The viewpoint viewpoint of a The during the Japanese internment and from the viewpoint of that person during this time and what a nice way that is to maybe begin their unit in high school on because they get to know the story of specific person And it's a really nice way to begin a unit on on something so it's so powerful in so many ways Yeah they're very effective access points into so much exactly and there is that wonderful adage like if you if you are a writer and you will write a novel. If you are a good writer. You'll write a short story and if you are a master you will write a poem and you might add a good children's good so you just referred to this this This structural kind of rule which I'd never understood having read one million children's stories to my daughter's I I never knew that there was a page limit or a word limit or but there are some requirements isn't isn't the right word but there are some form parameters Ramat irs that that fall here described these for listeners. I think I shared about everything that I know Okay in that in just that they are thirty. Two Page format for a children's book and with title page might even go down to twenty eight mm-hmm but I've never written my own children's book so I'm not sure if I could speak to the specific parameters other than that. It's typically a certain amount of pages right right and I think there's a certain number of words to in their some. Somehow I'm I'm not certain about that and I do think there is some writers. I'm thinking of Williams Dyke who wrote the original Shrek and Sylvester and the magic pebble and his Boris in Amos raiders or Amos Amos embarrassed. It's the mouse in. The whale. Has Some good love that book there. I think the go the stray trey from the as the formulaic approach. Now they are older books but they're The seem to me a AH both in terms of length and vocabulary they have words in William steig would use words like obsequious in a in a picture book and Dr Soto the dentist is another one and not worry that a child won't know what that means. It's it's just part of the flair of the character I spent a Lotta time at my son's school where they have a very a very small but incredible library and so you can read on the spines of the book. They'll kind of say what grade level is kind of the focus and so there is a real variety because you see first grade second grade level and then all of a sudden. UCS find that says eighth grade level and so you think okay you know audaciously. This is the the type of language that is in. The book is not going to be at a second grade level but then that what does that do the net kind of spurs this sweet thing of like will your parents or maybe still reading to you the spoke or you're looking at the richness of the pictures or you're growing into some of the words of this children's book book so you know some of the books on their shelf for them to read to themselves. Some are still being meant to be read to them which is wonderful. When do we ever say we should stop up reading to our children I have a fifth grader and I read to him every single night and I hope that continues to go through high school you know sort of like a family family reading So yeah like it's it's wonderful to know that you know. Some children's books are simple in their words But then others there's Their audience isn't supposed to Detract from the level of language and meaning and content book itself but it really brings a focus for me listening to the two of you. Speak About this as to what we mean by by literate or literacy because Hang I think this is one of the great joys of the podcast or the audible book is that we aren't all natural readers booking hand words on page focus like this but the the power of oral history and oral storytelling is is just so human. And it goes you know from that womb image to to the deathbed and everybody responds to it and anyone having a Yes having a book read to them from Digital Platform. I will tell you that. So much of the power of that book is a person I'm Jennifer Jewel in. This is cultivating place this week. As we prepare to leave behind a year a season and a decade aid and step across the threshold to the next. We're exploring the power of excellent children's literature to grow the next generation of land stewards and gardeners among us. We are joined in this by two educators at California State University. Chico Theresa Carrio and Heather also felt. We'll be right back for more with them. After the break he is Jennifer for. I like book roundups at the end of the year. Many people do this year. I thought let's so succeeds for the future in the coming decade as has intention setting from the universe. When Theresa Kerio a woman I essentially did not know called me out of the blue a month or more ago to share her experience with on Meadow View Street and her sensation that this children's book embodied so much of what she enjoyed about cultivating tweeting place? It felt like a nudge from the universe. It also reminded me that several years ago. Another bright woman. Heather altfeld deny had entertained a back and forth conversation about the power and resource of Children's literature to share forward with the youngest gardeners and nature lovers among us. A cultural literacy of care for one another and for the generous planet and planet meets with whom we make this this journey in addition to Heather Theresa and my favorite books. I put out a call to you all listeners and readers instagram I and facebook communities for you to send to me your favorite books. This topic clearly touched a heart string because the input from you you has been heartfelt and abundant book titles stories of childhood of children of grandparents of grandchildren of classrooms and libraries libraries. Thank you for a full listing of the titles. You all submitted as blessings for the coming seasons. Please see this week's post host under the PODCAST TAB at cultivating place dot com. It is a great list here though is a taste of the submissions. I mean a started off off with two additional titles from Theresa Wish Tree by Katherine applegate published in two thousand seventeen and seed folks by Paul Fleischman published in Nineteen Ninety seven the folks at Seoul Fire Farm in upstate. New York sent us in the direction of medium dot dot com to find some of their suggestions. MEDIUM DOT com embrace race recommendations include titles such as all the world written by Liz Garton scanlon illustrated by Marla frazee and recommended for ages. Two to five the book is described described as following a circle of family and friends through the course of a day from morning until night. This book affirms the importance of all things great and small all in our world from the tiniest shell on the beach to the warmth of family connections to the whitest sunset sky. They also recommend girl girl of mine written by Jabari seem illustrated by Lewin farm recommended for ages. One to three. This book is described described. This way as daddy cradles his baby girl. She is suddenly whisked away on a fantastical adventure swinging above lush floral floral gardens under the Golden Moonlight. This sweet text inspired by rock. A bye baby will whisk little ones off to peaceful slumber also. Another recommendation is a different pond written by bow fi and illustrated by Thai buoy. A two thousand in eighteen called Ikat honor book that Qurqus Review calls a must read for our times. A different pond is an unforgettable story about a simple simple event in a long ago fishing trip. Wendy Kipnes Bray. Raider of the Chinese Kitchen Garden suggested a book that she loves loves loves entitled The Empty Pot written by Demi. Lynn Richards wrote in with her favourite book. Being my my side of the mountain by Jean Craig George Tenley Nelson living on a one acre farm in rural Alaska Shared Talks Cartman written by Donald Hall and illustrated by Barbara Cooney. She also recommended. Miss Rumph IUS written and illustrated straighted both by Barbara Cooney. She rates ox-cart man is my all time favorite and I have to agree with her ox. Cart man is one of my Everett's to Tenley finished with another favourite discovered years ago at the local library when her kids were still little. And that is the Gardner partner written by Sarah Stewart and illustrated by David Small. She says this book makes me cry. Every time I read it the complicated dynamic nick of a child being re homed during times of economic strife and the ability she has to recreate her environment and bring beauty enjoy to her surroundings. Surroundings through her love of gardening is inspiring and beautifully portrayed. Thank you for asking for our titles. She wrote I greatly enjoyed enjoyed thinking about it. ABOR Lee of conquered the soil sent me one of her favorites called. My hair is a garden written and illustrated By cosby a Cabrera. She says I love this book. Abra also pointed me in the direction of tomorrow Horn and her instagram. The grand page titled Cultivating Curiosities where she curates children's garden books and gives some excellent recommendations if you're on Instagram instagram. Make sure to check it out. I want to end with this submission from listener. Sandy erber she wrote Dear Jennifer. My memory of of a children's book is actually a record of a song. The carrot seed by Ruth Krauss. I cherished the record played it over and over although the story worry is about a little boy who persevered in had faith that his carrot would grow. I thoroughly identified as the main character even as a little girl gender identification didn't matter to me then or now what mattered was the act of planting the seed watering it and pulling the weeds. Carrots grow grow from carrot seeds. All of my siblings knew what Sandy's favorite song was. It wasn't until I was an adult and a mother myself that I saw saw the carrot seed book. I was thrilled and most recently to my delight I rediscovered the song via Google. My children as well as my grandchildren. Children have gardened with me over the years my theme for my grandchildren is. There are no rules in grandma's garden. This past May. I became a master gardener in Nevada. County I retired and moved to Nevada City California. A year ago May and was very pleased and proud to check this accomplishment on my bucket list list little did I realize my bucket list started when I was five years old. I enjoy listening to cultivating place and look forward to a new conversation. Every Week my beloved friend Elsie turned me onto your program. Several years ago sadly she passed away a year ago. When I listen I have elsie close in my heart every minute? Thank you Sandy Berber and so it goes this is is a living breathing dynamic list of titles to which I hope we will keep adding in the coming years. I also hope it will inspire you to read and share more of the best children's literature with the most expansive of gardening and growing intentions with your family and friends with your library. Your local school your local community garden or little lending library. The possibilities for sewing these seeds are pretty much limitless now now back to our conversation with Teresa Carrio and Heather Alt- felt on the generative power of Good Children's literature This is cultivating place conversations on natural history and the human the impulse to garden. We're back now with heather. Altfeld and Theresa Carrio exploring the wonder joy and complexities of children's literature with the power to grow young human seedlings into gardeners in land stewards for our world for the next decade and beyond of the hundreds of children's books that I've read to my son when he was little one. That stand out above many was is called on Meadow View Street by Henry Cole and it is a simple story yet. Profound of a little girl who moves to a new new neighborhood and she I think is thinking about this street named Meadow View Street because she does not see a meadow on her street and so she's in on the grass and looking and there's a little flower that pops up and she loves the flower in its intrigued by the flour flower and so she gets the materials she needs necessary to create a space in her yard for the flower to grow. So it doesn't get Mode over by the lawnmower when her her father does his chores so The little girl notices that a little butterfly comes by and so another little flower pops sob and so she creates a larger space. I'm in her yard four Her Flower and then the space continues to get bigger and bigger and she starts noticing things she starts to see more bugs and more birds come in and as it continues to grow throughout her entire yard yard She decides that she wants to plan to tree and so her parents plan to tree and then now her lawnmower is sitting on on the sidewalk in it has a for sale sign And the family decides now that they want a place for for birds and animals to get a little bit out of water so they create a pond and the whole time during the book. You can see the neighbors looking over the fence about you know what's happening in their yard. was there enjoying their yard. And they're observing in their yard. And so what. This little girl is able to do in a very short amount of time as to which she says. Create a home for everybody and so I think the you know the heart string here for me is that The level of influence is that she has by simply observing and being honest and her curiosity and I think her parents parents Intuition to listen to their daughter and her having her quick question an accepting of that. Like let her do this. And let's see where it goes from there and till Of course everybody in the neighborhood is going to this creating a meadow so in a a neighborhood where there once was no meadow to be seen This little girl is able to to create a true on on Meadow View Street and And she talks about how she's creating a home for everybody because when I'm listening to this I'm thinking you know a lot of times these things things happen with developers and they they make titles for street names that on Mojo View Street because they're used to really be a meadow there and then there isn't any more because because of the development of particular area But you I think that this is where literature really hits. A home run is is that it maybe looks at some commonplace practices Of what we do but if we scratch at all And this is what I encourage courage. My students who are university going to be teachers than have them be able to do it themselves and then with their future students as let's scratch a little bit. Let's look at these common since practices and see if they truly are necessary. And how do we go about this. How do we listen more? How do we see How connected we really are Dr And how we can grow through love and reaching out to everybody to truly find a home for everyone. Did you also have something you wanted to read for us from another selection. Now that you have summarized why we are all here which was Theresa calling calling me and saying I want to read you a story. Thank you so much so I also would like to highlight A book called Gathering The Sun An alphabet in Spanish and English and has written by Alma Florida And it is translated by her daughter. Rosa zombies IRA and the illustrations in the book are by Simone Silva My Mentor at the University of San Francisco was Alma Florida and she the Has a real love of the land and people and honoring people and honoring the humble work of field workers and so there are a lot of people in the state of California who are here from the particular region of Oaxaca Mexico and so she wrote and dedicated this book to people who who work and harvest and Bring to us what we have on our dinner tables every night and so she would write actually full-page poems that she then Cut Down her poems in order to make this picture book so a couple that I'd like to read to you One is for the letter. P Pock Herro which in English is bird little bird flying over the fields. Where do you take the dreams? I place place upon your wings. E An F. is three us or Flores stars or flowers are the stars stars shining flowers that brighten the night sky. Are the flowers. Drowsy stars that lies sleeping in the fields Z.. For Zan Oria carrot. The carrot hides beneath the earth after all she knows the sense fiery color here by heart. Our God watering your smiles to your friends are like like water to growing plants. Thank you very much. I love that. So heather cheer with us. What you have selected? I've brought a book that I remember from my childhood and actually the copyright looks like it's nineteen sixty nine in it's called Tucker's countryside and it's the sequel to George Seldon's the cricket in Times Square a beloved classic and it also actually is about a meadow auto and it's in this case about a a very old meadow called the old meadow that needs to be saved and Just a bit of background background about the Book Chester. The cricket from Times Square has returned to his homeland in Connecticut and realizes that the meadow in which he and all of his beloved friends have have lived for many many years. is about to be destroyed by developers who want to put up houses and apartments. So He sends sends a bird John Down to New York City Times Square to pick up tucker mouse and Harry cat that who were the beloved friends of Chester Cricket. So I I'm getting read to little sections if that's alright in this first section Shen the creek. They've just arrived in Connecticut at the meadow and the cricket is explaining. What's going on the crooked shook his head? It's something very serious. Come on I'll show you. It's almost sunrise. You'll be able to Z.. He jumped out the opening of the stump and then on top of it hairy and Tucker scrambled after him above them a Pale lavender light. The color of lilacs seemed to lift the sky upward. The heavens stood high now look all around said Chester all around on the meadow. And tell me what you see Tucker and Harry did is. They were told they could see the flat. Grassy land around Chester Stump and further off the woodsy part where the meadow began and still farther toward the West Ridge of hills that were also covered with trees here and there through the Brush through the reeds. They caught a glitter of the brook in. Its course in the Dawn. The medal looked so fresh. And everything in it that it seemed as if it had just been created yesterday. Beautiful said Harry Cat but look outside. The Metro said Chester look all around outside everywhere on all sides beyond the hills beyond the woodsy parts there. There were houses to the east where the sun was. Just coming up to new ones were being built. I only see houses said Harry cat. That's just just it said. Chester houses Tucker mouse scratched his head. I don't get it just a what's wrong with houses. It's too long to go into now. said the cricket. I'll explain when we wake up so later on in the book after racking their brains for most of the summer. This is what transpires like a wind. Words spread through the meadow that the mouse from New York had a plan from all quarters. Animals stream towards Simon's pool by noon noon. A great crowd had collected around the log. Where the little turtle send himself? He was lying there now. Waiting like the others to hear what Tucker had to say. The the mouse jumped up on the log beside him and looked over at the upturned expectant faces friends and meadow dwellers he began as you know the ripping Pingu of your home has already begun a grown went up from the assembly those humans should have known Bettas Tucker but just this morning morning I came down with an idea that still might work. Hurry chemic- cry from the section where the sundry field mice were sitting save. Save the horizon until we're safe said Tucker. He went on to explain what happened. And so he tells them this plan which involves actually sort of forging the site as an old site that can't be damaged because it would be taking it out of its historic place so the mouse says if if we could get the human beings believing that the old meadow was the location of the Joseph Headley homestead and farm. My guess is they won't dare wreck. A place of such such. His voice became very grand important. Such historical significance. We just have to fool those stupid human beings how about it. What do you think the animals all looked at each other testing the idea in their minds than a few began to smile and a few Moore began to laugh? A wave of excitement and enthusiasm broke over them to fool. The human beings would be a game as well as a means of saving the old meadow. Oh Tucker suggested cricket. Excuse me for interrupting you but even if we can do it wouldn't it be sort of will like ally Chester Tucker shouted. You're so honorable. It's disgusting here. The human in beings are about to ruin your home. Everybody's home and you're worried about telling a little why the only other thing I can think of is to wait 'til Monday morning and have all of us who have teeth. He's big enough to go out there and attack the workmen. We might get the town believing. The motto is full of Rabid Rodents. But they'd probably come out here and exterminate US anyway. Hey Chester said Harry cat. Just keep telling yourself it's not a lie. It's a benign deception. I'm good I'm Jennifer jewel and this is cultivating police Theresa Kerio. Correo and Heather also felt are both university level educators. Creative writers thinkers mothers and lovers of good children's literature. Sure that grows us all. We'll be right back for more with them after the break. Aw Hey now it's Jennifer thinking out loud this week with a hat tip of gratitude and Hell Yes to Greta tuned Berg a reminder that excellent children's literature and lightning and informing the natural and cultural literacy of our world can also be found from some of the esteemed awards in this field if full listing of these compiled by info soup or also on this week's essay under the PODCAST TAB at cultivating place dot com. But some of the most important of these awards include the called aqap metal which honors the artist of the most distinguished anguished American picture book for children the Newbery Medal which honors the author of the most distinguished contribution to American literature for Children The batchelder award given to an American publisher for a Children's book published outside the United States and subsequently translated into English English. The Coretta Scott King Award recognizing an African American author and illustrator of outstanding books for children and Cindy Bald pray metal which honors a Latino or Latina illustrator and author whose works best portray affirm and celebrate the the Latino cultural experience in an outstanding work of literature for Children and youth finally first nations dot Org also has recommended commended children's literature reading list including works by people of native American and indigenous descent. Make sure to check that out. Finally finally if you're not familiar with the work of Maria Popova of brain pickings dot org. She does an annual roundup of children's literature generally and it's always a treat. She personally rereads the little prince every year as a ritual of meaning and memory you can find links to her past years. There's lists in this week's post as well. She says quote once a year every year. I reread the little prince and manage to find in it new layers layers of loveliness and wisdom each time always seemingly written to allay whatever Mike rate a struggle at the moment might be it is as a special book yes but it is not singular in being a testament to something. I have long believed that. Great Children's books transcend both age. Each time they are exquisite distillation of philosophies for living addressing in the language of children which is the language of absolute loot sincerity so counter cultural in our age of cynicism the deepest most eternal truths about what it means to live a meaningful beautiful inspired and noble life. And I would add for my list in the garden on the trail with our plant and wildlife friends and and family here is to sewing many more seeds in twenty twenty now back to our conversation with Heather Altfeld and Theresa Carrio Carrio on the generative power of Good Children's literature for Nature and Garden Literacy. This is cultivating place conversations on natural history in the human impulse to garden. We're back now with heather. Alt- felt and Theresa Kerio exploring the wonder joy and complexities of children's literature with the power to grow young human seedlings seedlings into gardeners and land stewards for the next decade. And beyond the immensity that we can hold in reading being read to sharing books is it literally is as powerful as taking taking someone out into the garden in many ways and last year around this time around the winter holidays I did did a book. Roundup of Great Garden. Books for gardeners and different gardeners submitted. Their books and this year. I thought I really. I WANNA do a roundup of great children's literature that holds and lifts up and centers these values of garden in nature nature and the word That can bring them to life in a different way than even just being out there but being out there is my first choice. He's definitely it's it's interesting. How even when the books are not directly about the garden MHM because so many children's books use anthropomorphized them to communicate their instructing directing children about the natural world and ascensions of animals in these ways that I think are are almost as powerful as taking them out to see those animals because they're brought to us through the immagination of these writers who almost seemed to be living or a piece of them is still living on the the same wavelength as children in their imagination? I think when it's not a person at allows children to Oh maybe connect and not have at least fill so vulnerable. Have the Faulk says the you know the prime character of the book yet. I might feel a lonely like the Fox feels lonely or I might feel and whatever that is so that in a very Humble and simplistic like way children are able to express their own emotions and connect In a beautiful way you know where it doesn't have to be a person it can be. It's IT'S A. It's a lighter side of how into connect about feelings places and people and plants chance it's an it's you know the The granting of being nece the allowing for being -ness of all other organisms trees and flowers flowers and grasses and rocks and And I I have to hope that we as adults going back into these places it it it re hydrates that aspect for us as well and asks us if not overtly at least subconsciously to To shift the way we think about the world and the rigidity agility that we bring to it in our adulthood sometimes And take some of those boundaries down and and re look at what what what we believe. What are words? Say We believe what our actions say we believe and and maybe rededicate ourselves to To what we really want those things to all be alignment for you you think about. I think you called me about on Meadow View Street not too far off from Greta. Arriving in in the US and sitting in our In our country and making a big difference and I think it's up to all all of us to kind of pick those things up and carry them forward in whatever ways we can. I I want to end by asking each of you to tell me what your graders. He just hopes for from this conversation are like what what made you agree to be Brave and vulnerable and show up here in person and talk about children's literature On a gardening program and podcast. And I'll let you think for second and then and One of you will start. Can I start by reading. Just a snippet of the end of this book so this is from the perspective of the little girl who lives at the edge of the meadow. Her bedroom face the meadow and she kept tiptoeing to the window to peer out under the blind off down to the right where the willow tree grew. There seemed to be a haze of light light the full moon she thought glancing off the Brook and firefly's flickering much later in the season they should and often. She thought she heard strange. Sounds like music times clapping and laughter. Could animals laugh. She wondered could insects laugh. Could the trees the brook and the grass laugh. She didn't know but whatever. The magic of this meadow was on this special night. It was clearly collected beneath the branches. The willow tree where there was an old stump the brook curved around. I suppose for me if you're an adult who has the power to read to a child. I think it's part of an act of the natural world to do so with her. It's reading or you're telling a story that narrative in the passing down of narrative is an act of the natural world I So often are looking for more. I'm connections to hope in the world and I think that the way we connect to the wonderful books that are already here that we continue to always come back to and learn from and think about differently are wonderful but it's also all of the books that haven't been read yet and stories that are told through maybe oral tales that culturally elite. You know haven't been put down onto paper and so it's that Desire to know that I hope to know more more stories and how different cultures are also. I'm very connected Possibly in ways deeper connected in than my own culture the end so by knowing their stories and having People write down their stories. There's more connectivity to as more honor more Love can be shared because we all come from a common place this Commonplace and I and hope is just you know words away. If that's through a poem or through short story or through a children's book And then what a wonderful thing to be sitting next to a person you love and be able to read And then even begin a dialogue or people memorizing words of stories I feel like it is an honor to read other people's stories and learn learn from their stories learn from children learn alongside children children being you know very young school age children to new adult children. it's it can be a beautiful and Powerful thing that I am so glad glad to be a part of thank you both very much for being guest today. It's been a real honor and pleasure to be here with hugh talking about this subject. Thank you for having us. It's wonderful. Thank you from cultivating this in us to then share Theresa. Carro is a supervisor and instructor in the School of Education at California State University Chico. She received her master of Arts in multicultural literature for children and young adults from from the University of San Francisco. She has served as a high school teacher. And is the Butte County Library Children's Spanish storytime leader. Heather also felt is an award-winning poet. And Essayist she is also on faculty with the Honors Program and the Department of Comparative Religion and Humanities Ladies also at cs you Chico. Heather's second book of Poems Post Mortem won the two thousand Nineteen Orson Prize and is forthcoming in the spring. Spring of Twenty twenty her research and areas of interest include children's literature anthropology and Poetry Waldorf Education for for K.. Through twelve and things that have vanished if you have not yet shared with me your favorite stories from childhood that center and uplift an expensive love in valuing of the natural world in our gardens n beyond. Please feel free to do so. I will continue to add them to the ever-growing Bibliography of such works at cultivating place. Dot Com. Join US again next year as we welcomed the new year and the a new decade by considering the lillies with Joe Joe Clark Outdoor Educator and lover of lilies especially the native lilies of the the western United States until then made the new year bring you growth and Joy Solis and celebration in equal measure and as needed evergreen. -Ly from me to you. There are so many ways people engage in and grow from the cultivation in of their places cultivating places a listener supported co production of north state public radio over cultivating place dot com this week. There's there's a fabulous list of children's literature titles and art. You will not want to miss as you set your intentions direction and joy for all that you you will grow and manifest in twenty twenty together. We grow each other. Our show producer engineer is Matt fiddler executive if producer Sarah Bohannon original theme music is by Mom Muse accompanied by Joe Craven and Sam Bevan cultivating places distributed nationally nationally by P R X public radio exchange in the next decade. May you ever enjoy the cultivation of your place. I'm I'm Jennifer Joel. She Ain't mine she. I do uh thank in blue you

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"He's been more biggest role model any tennis play. His Britain's rice tennis player ever. Hello and welcome to the I'm James Parkinson twenty nineteen Estrella and open is just days away now, and you can really fully energy around Melvin pock on today. Short reaction from Andy Murray, not his impending retirement in an emotional press conference. The pain is too much. I can't keep doing. This. We go inside the pie a beauty bar. What happens at the PD bus days in the Biba? Plus, we have the fans gearing up the IRS when the United sane. But I the draw has been made for this year's tournaments or spoke to journalists to money Carrio to get his thoughts on the outlook. For the menstrual mainly looking at Novak Djokovic. You know, he he had such a big end to the law season. And is is going to be very difficult to be him. I think in general what would the men's draw? It's at the moment seems to be a crash of the generations. Finally, you know at the end of last year, we had aside from Novak, you know, coming back winning Wimbledon when in the US open, you had names like catch on of one Paris masters, chore, rich who reached the final of Shanghai and one Davis Cup, you had other places. Well, chichi pass. So I guess in general I'm looking to see what happens between them and for the women's draw before for the women's draw people speak about the kind of the chaos in women's tennis and helm predictable is, but I think what impressed me the most is just the strength of depth. You know, if you look at the seeds of very few players who I wouldn't bet against to have a run. To reach the semi final. You know, oversee the big kind of story is the first line of the draw with Simone Hallett world number one last year's finalist. French Open champion facing Kennedy who defeated her in the first round of the US open last year. And it hasn't actually won a match since August. She's had a back injury. She said various issues, she's no longer with Darrin gay hill, a longtime coach, and so that could be the first pick up set aside from that in the first quarter. You have Serena Williams who is clearly one of the favorites. And yeah, I'm looking at Serena, I think Angelique Kerber is doing incredibly well, the dominant force in the bottom half of the draw. Naomi Isaka US open champion. It's going to be interesting to see if you know of her I I'm after winning is is always very interesting often times players do poorly release. So be interesting to see how mental footage should going out there beyond. That that there are just a rodeo players young young players several anchor whether someone like Victoria's Rinker can come back, and and finally after winning this title twice in the past where she can do something and see I I think it's going to be a very interesting to ornament for both men's and women's tours in two different completely different ways. How much do you think the outlook in applies into apply? His potential to be successful and go further immigrants slam depending on who they who they face along the way while in tennis, much abso- everything a lot of players will say, they don't look at the door. I'm not sure I believe some of them, you know, that there are others. Dominic team who say up front that he looks at the door. But it will depends on jobs and was a tonight. Thanks for your time. Pre. She at it. I most bake to you throughout the tournament. Perfect. Thanks for having me. Andy Murray fronted the media today for his pre-tournament press conference and was overcome with emotion as he shed an ongoing heap injury will lead into calling time in his career following Wimbledon. This year, not not feeling good. Obviously been struggling for a long time. I've been in in a lot of pain. For most been. Probably about twenty months now. Pretty much pretty much done everything that I could too. To try and get my hip feeling feeling better. And. You know? Hasn't hasn't helped loads? I'm I'm going to bet a place, and I was six months ago. But. Still on a little pain. And yeah, it's been it's been tough. I mean, I can. I can still play to today level no level. I'm happy playing. But also, you know, it's not just that. The pain is is. Is just too much really spoke to my team. And I told him that you know, I I can I can't keep doing this. And. I needed to have like an end point. Because just just playing with no idea when the sort of the payment is going to Penn going to stop and I felt like making that decision. I said to my team, look, I think I can kind of get through this until until Wimbledon that is where light to. Stop playing. Also, not certain I'm able to do that. It's a tough way to go out. But we'll see how Mari holds up next week in the first round call Edmund was Austin his press conference what Murray's exit from tennis Maine's to him for me. He's he's been like come on go. He's been more biggest role model of any tennis play. British and he's Britain's is tennis player ever. And you could say maybe Britain's best spokesman ever sorry to be able to have experienced off had within memories in terms of training with him and getting to know personally. And seeing what he's done on the call and achieved. So yes, it's he's definitely helped Mark career in in some way with whatever that is. And. It's not nice to read that he's he's gonna be retired some point. But at the same time. Not so away to reflect his career nine that is going to be done. And seeing what is it she'd which is of see amazing. Continuing look behind the scenes at the as we'll be doing right through tournament the planet. Beauty buys one a-rod mountain Parkway. The players can truly relax a spoke to gidget and Debbie to find out more. Hello. My name is Debbie museum. And I am knee really therapist at the plays beauty bump at these trailing open, and I'm gidget Rekha. And I'm knee hairdresser. We set up this area servicing. All the players looking after them in hatred saying all facets of beauty, providing a safe haven, full them. That's quite a lovely environment where they get pen pushers. These this is a great safe haven as Debbie sued for people to come in here. And and really get away from what's happening on the outside. They have time to their hit can't colored treatments. It's a really beautiful beautiful area. It feels like it in. Here's a really kind of tranquil atmosphere on getting here. The lav of. Professional planet is very hectic. So it must be a really nice change of pace for players to come in here. And just kinda take a load often get really looked off the absolutely this is my twenty first year together with my colleague, we have sort of set this whole area up and seen it grow. If kitchen I after the twenty one years together servicing the play as we could write a book. But what happens at the beauty boss days in the Biba for an off a main that must be a really nice thing for the pliers as well that this is a spice where they can come in and just be themselves and get traded really, well, what are some of your hearts of working closely with the players, and and make them feel like they relaxed in harm here in the beginning. It was primarily famous coming in here. And then over the years, I love the males of started coming in. And and often nights. I look lava facial, but don't tell anybody vein in here. So and then go out they might have won they match and then the following year. The first thing they want to do is follow that. Same regime again have the facial. And but don't tell anyone, of course, over the years. Now, it's over. It's all art. K I have a little bit done added by the experts in the BBB, what's the most rewarding part of the role. It's a privilege, really? We're very grateful. Thank we talked about this with close friends of corden, and we feel extremely privileged to be part of something. So amazing in Melbourne in the summer, quite a few of the players have become friends. A lot of them actually cool before they get here. Just to make sure they're in on the first day. So that's fabulous. And to know that they're really comfortable that we've built up a trust relationship with them is is really special for us to be able to make them. You know, when they have to shell four times a day sometimes between they medicine their practice to come in and feel beautiful and glamorous is very special, and that's very rewarding for me. But it's it feels like the players are in really great hands with both of you and well done on on twenty one years and all the best furthest grilling up in twenty non. Thank you. Thank you. James? Tom now to hear from the fans around Melvin POC and how they feeling about. This is a stray lineup and Tim solely down at garden square. And the fans are already starting to roll in here and Melvin puck. So catch a few on the Wii in an awesome. What they love the most about these styling open. I love the atmosphere. It's one of the sort of like your life dream to come here by moist said, I'm not gonna eight year old right now my favorite to race of the better than Christmas. I love the spirit of the Australians. Everybody's really friendly. Kids. Sign now is the nominal. It's huge like a company. This so many quotes this so many people playing tennis. What do you love most about being here? Boven pock joy, April spritz. On music. We always good the music. That's really awesome. The people have been great on the grounds. And it's just incredibly easy to get her for such a huge city saying you make people from around the world. I've just been tokenism boys from Chile and just amazing. How lucky we out which you really looking forward to seeing here at the Israeli and open and war was pretty good. He's got some good savings going on Asaka. I like to say you're up in common and watch her as a junior she played the daughter. So it was kind of cool to see or coming along. Serena women Gil cower, they Roger Federer's my favorite because of all his integrity. I just think he's just the pinnacle of what you want or defender. He's a guy with two twins. And as a coup fact that I'm a twin to makes me happy to see that. He is a father who takes care of his twin denotes a place. China's pick somebody that I'd really like to see do. Well, I'd have to say Dennis shop Shapoval love it. Would you love to sit around the dinner table with and just you know, chew the fat with some picked area. Probably federal like to rain, see, you know, how he how he goes about doing what he does. And just understand. It's pretty it's pretty special and not very often that we see someone who's that good and successful for that long. So really intrigued by for example, Feeney's how I saw last week Howard that h he still so disciplined, and so focused how she does it, and I would love to chat with her and just see how she experienced and how she do Swede everything. I mean, I think it's amazing still being thirty eight and being there. What are some of the question to the Ostrava? What's the work? And I've either four hundred now. I will maybe more about the how he does the holidays. How how he enjoys his free time more than ten because I think in tennis, he he's showing us every week everything on we've got another get through that. So. That's how you ask. So they have it. The atmosphere is building beautifully done here at gotten squid and the fans are just absolutely loving. What's on offer? And then looking forward to a big couple of weeks here. Melvin pock. Thanks to Tim, solely and thanks to you for listening. Join us for brand new episode every day of the main role starting Monday, January fourteen so you then.

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JAB Currency Talk

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

10:36 min | 3 months ago

JAB Currency Talk

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ROSALIND CHAO & SIMON TEMPLEMAN: 30 Years of Love & Acting (Alternate Title: Keiko & Kain Get Married)

NICE WORK! A Super Nice Club Podcast

51:48 min | 11 months ago

ROSALIND CHAO & SIMON TEMPLEMAN: 30 Years of Love & Acting (Alternate Title: Keiko & Kain Get Married)

"And Hey there. Welcome to nice work podcast of the Super Nice. Club. I'm really glad you're listening today we have to really great humans. Rosalind Chao and her husband Simon temperament our guests Rosalyn I don't care how little you watch screen. You've probably seen her something she has over one hundred, thirty acting credits, some of the highlights. Are shows like Mash when she was just kid to star Trek next generation deep space nine joy luck club the neighbors the away. And on and on her most recent film is Disney Incredible Live Action Mulan, and which she plays Milan's mother who dies in the end. Her husband, Simon. He's also an actor and he has a accredits. But he's he's different. He's a festival. He's he's worked alongside Patrick Stewart in the Royal Shakespeare Company is like a real actor. Plays it cool. But he knows he's special. Royal Shakespeare Company think I said that right? Yeah. That says it all. which is why it's kind of awesome. An unexpected that he's also super well known for the video game characters he's played over the years. Games like mass effect legacy of Kain Dragon Age, blood home, and world of warcraft donkeys Kong. These are all huge hits that wouldn't have been the same without his aggressively intimidating pipes. And he's also he's also insurgent next generation which. Which I have three watch that from the beginning, as soon as done according this intro that is an awesome television show anyway point is these two are successful actors. And even successfully married for thirty years and that is Super Nice. Kind of wanted to figure out the secret to their success as actors and his life partners. So that's what we talk about. release. Would I set out to talk about with him? What we really talked about? Yours gotta take a listen find out. and. Cursing. Rosalind Simon thank you so much for talking to me today. Really appreciate it welcomed the Nice work. Thanks for having. Thank you. Nice to be here. So I'm just going to jump right into it and start asking you guys questions. What do you think about that and then you can answer them and then it'll be over and we'll have a podcast. On how works awesome. All right. Rosie. Something to be real quick, I, was looking at your I was I was doing research stocking new online. And it says that you were born in southern California Orange County. And then you grew up here but then you've got sent to Taiwan to learn acting. So much is wrong on on the Internet it's. No. So yes. Surprise surprise but just for summers during the summer, sometimes my parents would send me to Taiwan to learn. Peking Opera because that was their love and they wanted me to learn how to speak Mandarin and of course I didn't do very well. But. So yes but I grew up in. Southern California. So. You didn't go to Taiwan to live there. You just went for similar to said, yes, I just went for summer vacation. Was Acting Your I love or journalism was it in college USC No. Acting foul me I was found at my parent's restaurant and somebody put me in commercials to sell very boring to be honest that I started acting you know got kind of big breaks through high school and College and I just I gave into it basically. But in the meantime, live is performing in Peking Opera here to my parents had a Peking Opera Company in. Los Angeles and so I performed there as well as doing commercials and guest shots on TV. So your parents had a restaurant and a Peking Opera Company. Was it was the same thing one of those big theme restaurants like in Vegas with the nights and stuff but just opera. Pash. Company. That's amazing. We're doing them concurrently. Ah kind of I mean you had to make a living. So they were while for them was because they they they left. China. Behind of slammed the door shut after they left. So it was a way of keeping. Their past with the you know the they loved the passionate about it. So it was a way of keeping it alive. 'cause The you know they've cut off from their past they couldn't go back to China. Great people signing you were born in England it sounds like I'm pretty good with accidents. Yes. Yeah. Nailed it. When did where did you make it over to the states? What was your? What was your journey to La like? I. Came Out Eighty six. I was doing a play at the Amazon that that's where I met raw steering Nicholas Nickleby out of no fewer around when that came out it came. In with the Royal Shakespeare Company Okay Tour and we did away. We did new. York City they were at the Ahmanson and I was at the taper, doing a play and we. That way. In the park downstairs. Say The For you. It sounds tacky. Mustache No. I kind of great. What was the pickup line? What do you guys remember the line? The first? Up Lying. No is his older roommate actually. Of It yet, my older roommate here on you didn't he? Yes. The heavy lifting and I. And I look good. I was talking to my friends and and like a here comes that old guy again. And no guy would. Move. He turned out to be very sweet and then Simon we Kinda Lurk. And he did that for like two months. Look a little bit alert. And then but I had no idea I'm busy English at the time and all the other women in my cast were so excited when they saw the flags, it said the Royal Shakespeare Company are coming. You know how the music center has at row of flags few hot. And everybody was so excited. I was like I'm not attracted to Englishman. So whatever. and. Net Simon and he was like this guy in a Hawaiian shirt with long hair who who's kind of following the old guy with the English accent around so. I didn't really realize he was one of the actors until. Our play close we got free tickets to Nicholas. Nickleby was a whole. It was a big deal when it came out here. And? I remember I had an instinct that We were going to. End. Up. Together Somehow Gig. So you ended up with with a lurker in the Hawaiian shirt in the longest. Dreams come true. Shot Twenty added English accent like he's one of the. Did you stick around Simon? Did you go back? Was it pretty much I'm in I'm staying. I think you king now can waiting for me for the. Back to La and then we saw went backwards and forwards about three years from England to Los Angeles, and then we got married up to ninety nine. Excellent. Well well done you guys congratulations I assumed wrongly I was just kind of guessing when I was looking at Both your body of work is extensive and I was looking for the overlaps and I saw star Trek Next Generation I. Oh, they were both on next generation or if that's how they met like, did they meet you know? On the on the deck observation, you know they. We're on the ship on the. How did that happen? I was GONNA ask you about it but now that's all God. Knew each other all you? Could Silence Alot modest that yet assignment had been with the Royal Shakespeare Company for years and had played Patrick Stewart son. Yes and Called, it was Julius Caesar or not he was. He he got my side me my sad cobb, which is right. substantial held inside. We're doing this scene that we did at the ROTC. It's in Stratford and do WANNA come do it and and you can get your sad card that we're with teaching data. How to do Shakespeare I think it was there's a seaway data plays Henry the fifth that's how I remember that. I was a big knicks generation. NERD I. Own that right now. then. I'll tell you and when I was visiting Simon in England at one point they called me for the screen tests to screen test for the next generation and I still remember I was in Saints Little apartment and I was on the phone night is like. And I was falling in love with him. I was madly in love with him and so I said. Now. I'm not going. I'm not flying back for the screen tests. That's star Trek gets been done. It's over. So I didn't never flew back for the screen tests but separate from us, they didn't know where together and. Later. My role became a recurring that they wrote a role that was recurring and. If Ross gives you career advice would go the opposite direction I. Won't way? Yeah. When he saw how the regulars lived been silence A. Christmas fighters and whatnot having t magic's Simon turned to me and said, you're never giving me career advice. You did you did next generation and you did deep space nine altogether like season right? So it kind of worked out. Why did is that? How many seasons actress looking at Wikipedia? I, don't know. Yes. But you know I never committed to them. I'm with commitment phobic in general I mean I definitely, it's a problem it's not healthy. I think deep space nine I didn't sign on as regular. So I still didn't get the places that they have Christmas parties at. You're right though if if If she signed up for that was lots of things that you wouldn't have been able to what's. A joy luck club stuff like that. So you know you had your freedom you. Do other things to. Kids and be there for all Sloan's. So at that point, you're both busy relatively successful actors and you're starting a new relationship did do is it a thing with actors? They tend to date other actors a lot or is that just these seen the tabloids in in the supermarket? Yigit. Texas I. Think in general and in the industry, is that easier? Do you think could be with someone who understands the acting grind? Gosh I, know that's a good question. I think we. Use Good to have somebody who understands. The sort of obsessive quality. But. I don't know I think it makes a lot of demands on you personally probably that that could set up a conflict. So I mean, it's good bad. You just have to find a way of kind of. I feel shit. Yeah. New Ground it right and plus we. Probably. Shouldn't be the person saying this, but we're not very we're not. How do I put this were not you wouldn't know we were actors. I. Don't know. Yeah. Well, how would you? How do you know what? He's an actor? A or the very thespian E or Some people I mean you know? He's Royal Shakespeare Company. Being as they get, I have been to Stratford by the way actually got stranded there. Do you remember some years ago when the Mount Ricky because? Iceland yeah I think I pronounced that correctly by. Hard. Pronunciation. So, everything in Europe got shut down and. My wife at the time was. Seven and a half months pregnant. So another two weeks and she can't fly back anywhere. So Stratford was amazing. Well, we had friends there but the neighbors, the neighbors across the street offered their flats. If, we got stuck and then a woman from New York? College. Said you know my parents had an estate stratford is big beautiful place they passed away some months ago. Nobody's there. If you guys get stuck there, you can just be there what would have to pay any rent and it's magnificent place just a little bit Outta town. We were just. Mind blown at how amazingly helpful everybody was in town. So special special place in my heart for Stratford. ENDED UP BEING THERE A couple of weeks. that. That would have been see win was archer born are. Testing Manala children he was born in two thousand and ten June. So that would have been two, thousand ten. Yeah Went went all around winner all around to that town end the. By the way there's a farmer's market in Stratford Stratford that has been going on week league for something like six hundred years. Four hundred years the sign said and I was just thought about all the farmers market states that are so that are bragging about like celebrating their tenth year. Yeah, there's one that's been going on for centuries. Whole next level. Lakers that. Blacks one now. I think it was called the dirty when when we were there. They J. Individually. Yeah. Did they did definitely did go there? There was a a mate of our friends was in our seo so he took us around. All countries. Yeah. Absolutely loved it. Not Not, fascinating conversation for podcast listeners but seriously. If you can get England. And you can get this. Stratford upon Evan it's it's. Absolutely worth it. Even without the whole tourist thing around Shakespeare the rest of the town is awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So back to start for just a second I I'm just GonNa I'm just going to say it star Trek is better than Star Wars if you're listening and you disagree suck it, you know not Super Nice. Agree or disagree you, guys. I to be honest I'm not into either. Neutral Answer Simon. Like a book. Hobby. Difference. Great. Star Trek. And for me, it's really and we'll go back to this. It's Patrick Stewart has made that has made that franchise. Whole, different level the the Gravitas and the quality that he brings delivers you know. Did. He bring his game face every day or was he the relaxed sort of Jovial Patrick Stewart we see in his funny youtube videos. When you're working? Yeah series when he was directing us very serious but you know I was joking right I did actually love working on next generation at. Nine their scripts I to be honest with you. Sometimes, I would read their scripts I couldn't. So inventive I've never left. It's hard as I have on some of those sets there they were all real cuts. Patrick brand they were all hilarious. So, half the time where you see as jingling aired, you know doing something because there's some outside force right? Right. We're cutting up. Afterwards or beforehand. The okay. Somebody would probably get you guys in trouble Have you watched card yet? I'm John Too. But we don't have CBS access ferry which Heap Yeah Yup. Yeah. I. Am too. I don't have CBS access and just going to be honest I've I've watched it really watched it. I know it's wrong. It's wrong but I watched it my my love for Patrick Stewart. outstripped my sense of of decency. I'll make it up to more. Ray Actually. I've worked with a girl I just blanked down on their name, but the the whole cast is incredible. It is. It's a well acted show I love it. I saw Simon that that you were in the film Don King only in America. So I gotta ask is that where you met our second guest on this podcast Carro Salem or giardi known I see no, carry the because you. Carrio. Married right now now we were dating. A I know aiding yet. I just met. Simon when I worked with carrow but that's not how I don't think. Kerry. New York. Until. After shot it in my right maybe yeah. He wasn't in the room. So it's sort of coincidence then right? Yeah. Funny. Yeah. So you already knew him. He writes Don King only in America and then you're man accident we had no idea. He was. You know when we get together with Carol we've really don't talk shop we talk. Shop. Lot of politics. Yes a Lotta politics with Carrio. Carry listening. You better. Be Buddy. He's one of the smartest one of the most supportive. France as one this smartest people now is he's an incredible human little little shoutout to carry you and Dana. Love you guys. I. WanNa ask you for a second about video games. Oh. Yeah. He's done something like forty of them. Do a bunch. Yeah. But starting way back with one. When I used to play Video Games star wars tie fighter. Back in one thousand and ninety four. So you're like an original game actor what was it like back then and how's it evolved? What do you cracking up about? I've done have an encyclopedic knowledge on Day. Making more like. Back then in one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, acting in a video game has got to be different than than. Today and what does that actually mean? When you? Game can explain the Dan. Francisco. I was in this boots for about two or three days with. Know sort of pile of scripts A. Token for like two or three days because. I think everything was explained that you know but a now it's much quicker. And Sometimes. You're even in the room with other activities was nice or bell the read in the lineup before you sat feels a little bit more like acting rather than doing book on tape and it right? I mean originally, it felt more like doing a book on tape. But I'll save stuff before where they put you in black spandex in dots motion stuff. Yeah. That's with like the Ping Pong Ball things stuck. Levy face. Yeah. You do a lot of video game work and lot of these are ongoing series right and they just they just keep coming back up every few years they seem to be. Yeah. Yes. They do come back but. That take a long time to make now two or three years right? I mean and I mean the money involved is. Similar to movies and stuff is. So popular honestly, there have been times where he's been We've been simplysafe and somebody hears his voice and they're like, oh. Are you? Such and such. So you know that they've been playing how good the star Lord or whatever the care game is. Really. So you've been recognized by voice. Yeah I remember doing. Something once and I was doing a reading of a player than somebody they I got a message from the stage manager sang this somebody would like to meet you afterwards these cool. The dark Lord. Can you turn down the Lord though I think he was a Gamer. After this yeah. You get to meet the most interesting people. A bad. Do you play any of the Games? Now. Again young how it's playing. took. In the house or or from the the game the game. Company. Not necessarily those games, but we're not on the video game train I guess another mom and. Another family and we agreed that we both keep by kids off video games for as long as possible. So we sort of join forces and they did sports instead but then. The other kid bailed and. Video game thing of course, and by that time my son was like, yeah. But now I'm terrible at it. So I'm not GONNA do it. So it sounds like a Waldorf family. I it felt like we weren't though. My my oldest justice went to school for ten years. So he sucks video games now. Sorry Justice. I can be every game but your kids, you have two kids right rolling William and. Emai- can you tell me did I get it right? Yeah. Okay. What's tonight for them? You know growing up in an acting family, but you're not actors your actress who don't act like actors so. Is it. Has any impact on them in a way only impacted had on my son is I think he felt like. A. Because work was transitory and you never knew when we would have to pick up and take off and. Simon or he would just be with me in Ed he I remember him saying I want a job. Someday, I couldn't do that where you have to keep applying for work I a job some day that's a regular job where I go to office and I know we're going every day. So you're scared him straight. Yeah he's. He's. Doing, he's it lasts just graduated from Law School Oh he is oh congratulations. So, he's GonNa get out there and we're going to lawyer. Up. So. Yeah. It's going to be an acting dynasty. Read. Raves. With us. You see a Lotta that which is why I was asking a lot of. Families the kids are acting or maybe it's just sort of. You know you only see what percolates and that's actually one out of every hundred right it's hard to tell. Yes. So because you guys have this effectively the same job does it ever get competitive? Do you do spur each other on to do more be better or your coaches wildly different when it comes to acting? I don't feel judicial competitive. I don't feel competitive with him. The one thing is I can't act with him, I? mean. I could if I was being paid to. Did. What Simon did a show called the neighbors and they needed. A bad I did do that but other than that like if I ever have to were her something. That is a surefire way to get us in a fight is if he helped we do. Something together once. We did not have any chemistry if his for James Lupine the bitter direct. He kicked out, he said get out get out and then after some left us like you you. You to had no chemistry. Wow Wow you're actually let me tell you something got stories. Actually, I've got a baby outside the crew. You Have Chemistry Bubba Franks Oh man. What about other couples who act you must have friends with similar setups do you guys ever compare notes as couples sort of you know talking about common acting couple relationship struggles or anything like that? Just. Making this up we don't use a lot of friends who were actors. Yeah. Yeah We don't talk about acting to entire crushing all my sort of a lot of our friends conceived notions that had on on acting in la I thought everybody is hanging out together. Looking our friends day writers we do have a lot of writer friends almost. Jeez. Yeah most friendly are members of the writers guild okay. I don't know why that is but. One or two used to be actors, and then became riders Carrio carriers a brilliant actor I just. and. You know I used to lecture them all the time because I thought. It was a crying shame that he didn't. Still appear on screen. But you know he and this is from Nice work episode to everybody which you can listen to for continuity after you're done with this one. He followed his passion. He didn't have that strong strong strong he ability and the talent for miles. But what he really wanted to do was play music. And write and so he's he's done that and I think that must be frustrating to people when they see someone with so much talent I know he's Right? Yeah. No, he's just GONNA. Keep that talent for himself and poured out in his music and in his writing, which are both. Amazing. Yeah, I just thought. Had this sort of idea that there were probably like specialized counselors for acting families. Hopefully. Aren't actors right. Only thing that does happen said. The good is that if we ever have a disappointment or go through someday. Were Good at talking each other through it and we know each other's foibles. Simon knows that I tend to self sabotage and saying noticing before I really think through and Simon's really good about pushing out the door. You Yeah, I. I'd rather stay home and you know I'd rather sit. Said now go out. Nicholas Smile. You. Don't be grumpy Joe would he used to say to me is I'd say that I wanna I wanna go to you know the whatever fair, the Halloween Carnival at. The school and some would say you're an actor go act a plumber plums, fixes, pipes you're an actor go out. And I think I would say the same to him but not quite as eloquently. Yes speaking of work plumbing everything. We're all this is not a perfect segue but I'm going with. Work has been a big. Hurdle for a lot of a CISCO FIT right. And I heard that nine. Nine hundred thousand industry people are out of work here in La alone. which is at boggling a boggling number. What is Cova done to film and TV for you guys are you just? Like anything moving and Simon, your his our video games still moving forward the just before shutdown. But I. Think I don't think they're able to maybe that's something they can start up. In a couple of weeks maybe because you know you can isolate in those situations have been. Director of the engineer socially distant. It's probably Araya towns usually just in the booth. Yeah. I did a story of Yeah just before shutdown. But and I I hadn't. Geared up to from some people have a whole kind of professional studio setup which is Good thing to have but you've got their GAC look. Can you see now? We can see the toilet, right? It's You to. Tell you what I'll help. You said I'll help you do a Lou conversion. Yeah. It'll be a podcast and it'd be great. Confused. Exactly. What you here for? Worm hearing is that you guys are both kind of right now. I mean we had. You're about to start something you hope which is yeah. I think I'm supposed to start something that I'm not sure the exact date but also just prior tests closing down we were at the Milan Premiere, which is was supposed to come out the new Milan and then. I mean we were hugging and and you know signing autographs for strangers I mean I think, right But And then the we shut down with posted. Shutdown like oh Yeah. So we by the grace of God didn't. Get, anything and Do the same thing. You'd better not to. He's not very superstitious that. So yeah, there was a lot. There were a lot of things hopping at the time We don't know I think Mulan is still scheduled as this point I. Don't know why near thing is going to air but at the end of July, I saw that late July at the the twenty ninth. Is. Scheduled it cannot. So you are in that. That's the live action version everyone by the way not an animated. Follow up or something. and. Is it fantastic as? You. She's wonderful. Rolling is just see online. What's your role? What's your role in in rely? Mom. So I'm one of the few Disney MOMS at lives. You just ruined it for me. Spoiler alert everybody. Go back she didn't choose getting. That's great and we've got cancelled it and I know all the films are right now they don't know what to do. Do you know if there's a backup plan or are they thinking about maybe going? To whole video to video route. You mean for the. About to do oh, for the Line I. I don't think they're banking on the same opening up is at this point is what I'm told but. No I'm told it. I don't know how up to date my information is. What are you working on? Can talk about that at all what you were what's next for you at another film? That's GONNA come out now, I don't know when that's coming out called the starling and that's with Melissa McCarthy and we finished it we haven't done. Dr On it yet. Yeah this other film I don't want to I'm so afraid of Jamesy, because it's a really great thing that I'm very excited about it's an independent film and I just don't WanNa Jake Jake's it. No it's just great to know you're working on a great independent film and when that happens, we'll know what you were talking about. Don't jinx it. Now I don't want to be responsible for that Simon what about you what's next? I got nothing in the pipeline. Did something on. This Bit Star Trek the oval you know a segment fallen show. Yeah. I spent. A week in late tax. That was a lot of fun. He's amazing because he's you know he. Does everything. Seems to write it directed star at producer. It's some. Yeah, he's amazing. So that was fun. Think that's I. Don't know when it's coming out or we Leave. You ever watch ourselves by the way. So we really don't know what anything's think. Is. That of just there's enough of Barras or being too busy or over because you're. So you're so deep in it for awhile I just WanNa look at it right now. I, think. For me I like to imagine myself being better than I am I'm always trying to. I. Think I. I'm I'm happier not knowing. What about you what you want? I grow the Note Woods I. Yeah. I don't know it's. Our Our recordings. Filled with stuff that we're in that, we don't see. Never never turned it on. Maybe. Someday, you'll have a marathon. Oh God no. Get into some sort of deep depression. Could. You guys see this sort of brandon question but I'm curious Since I've just moved here. Could. You see living anywhere other than Los Angeles. Yeah. All the time every day. I that yeah. Yeah, I think. So really okay. Tell me where I'm looking for. I'm looking for like five years out. So tell me what's what's hot for you guys. Signed and I always kind of like what's next for here now but what's next? Taiwan. Fans. Yeah. They'll beautiful options editor we we'd never worked. Maybe. New Zealand, but I'm wondering. You know the rest. Of the play in England about a couple of years ago the national and. That was great. Really pushed me out the door for that that when I was. Yeah. It really gave me the courage to kill it. Isn't it I mean when looking for new challenge on you as an actor as any kind of grid, you're trying to find something which scares you which have never four. So the fact that this opportunity came up view. And you know you applying a English. I mean in this play with surrounded by bunch of Brits is. Intimidating, absolutely. It is good for our marriage. So because I learned that a lot of the that I thought were idiosyncrasies that. Mar Habits. Nationally. Cultural so I was able to you know adapt I learned how to adapt to those in my five months in London. So that was good but also if I hadn't been with an actor to be honest if I was. An actor I don't know that somebody would have been able to word it in a way that. Would have convinced me to go to London to do this. I was terrified Osa bid. Is You have a certain amount of flexibility you know. So the if because Ross was. Able to go to London for work? For five months. I. Mean we urge you know it's not like I had. I know office job that I had to go to every day my daughter was. Getting Ready for college, he's getting ready for college. So you know you can do like swing ships. You know you can take it runs. So that that's one huge about both being in the same business work at the same time. Judah series I didn't work. And somebody's parenting. Yes. Somebody's salad. Yeah of course. and. I. Think it's over subconscious net. If you know that somebody else is busy you kind of say no no. You know I mean you do what you gotTa do to make the situation worse. So right? Yeah. That's that's great. That's that's a supportive family is what it is. Right it's just the the actress style it's been workin since. What did you say nine, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, eighty, nine. Thirty one years wow. Now, coming up June twenty-fifth he's still from the cradle. June twenty fifth congrats I was just GonNa say I think by my two sons were born on June twenty fifth but now June twenty-sixth. I was confused two years apart same day. So we do a thing with that wants. Ten months before that. Jews. May Out, yes, when you have sex once a year. Your kids are born of the same day. It's not. It's not that it's not that much of a coincidence at all. No long into the marriage down to once a year. That's kind of when the kids are born. You know it's June twenty-sixth going to be a kid. Kinda. True. But anyway about my personal life while l.. Called the Super Nice Club challenge with each episode and what that is, you guys get to issue a challenge, the members of the super nightclub something that they can do to try to make the world a little nicer. Some kind of niceness habits. Some examples have been people will just go check in on your neighbor right? Because of COVID. Others are more activist oriented. So if you have anything can now's the time to put it out there to the Super Nice. Club. I mean there's the obvious like you said, check on your neighbors. Maybe Pratt's bake for friends if they're not covid worried and give to black lives matter and. Charity. Right, now is in most need the food bank La Food Bank is the other but on top of that I think anytime, you have a chance to sort of greet somebody in A. Positive way if you're out on a walk in, you don't know who's really hurting feeling lonely and if you can somehow reach out to people I think in any small way. It sounds so corny. Oh, I wish it doesn't though because we've all been on both sides of that we've all been in a funky mood and in some random stranger to smiles high and they're not picking up on you or something it's just a friendly outreach human-to-human and reminds you, oh, there's connection out there. It's beautiful right and then you know when you've done it for someone else right to. But I will tell you, I've been guilty of overreaching and had. David. Gentleman show up. I saw there's a little old male. Did I thought you? I thought he'd look you know I imagine being lonely in on his own and. Blah Blah. So I just asked him how he was in. We talked for god-knows-how-long. A longtime and he showed up a I I guess he forgot about for a minute. On. This was recently. Yes. How did that go Simon? it was it was comical. She. Most of. Basement. and. You got to look them that anyway. On stuff going on. That's Why? You might want to reach out that gee you know. Reach out in a way that doesn't make people think that they want to invite them into your life. Yeah. Okay. So did you say hi to some people friendly about it? All Right? That's the challenge, and then lastly, we do this where we flipped the, we flip around a little bit and you guys can ask you a question of me if you'd like to. And if you want free free, it's open open season. and. I've many I'm not saying that I'll be honest about the answer but I'll be nice about it and If your your partner. together. So what's been the biggest challenge as a new couple who haven't lived together and yet you don't have any outside distractions what's been your biggest challenge? A great question I will say the first thing that comes to mind is it's just been very. Rewarding and Just it's. It's we've both just thought Gosh we made the right choice. You're the right person on the right person this being pushed together during coveted and like in this way. is almost been. Every six months or so we've been on for three months. You know it's kind of like a year of regular being together because you know one person isn't going to work were you know we're working at home all that kind of stuff So the challenges have just been more logistical than anything else. Where am I going to work in the house? Where can I work with a decent Wifi because I've got a zoom call same to you. Do you know that kind of thing finding out our our our space, right? Yeah. You do for a living She has an agency here in la I'm they do A lot of things in sports and music. World with with some really fun clients and let me ask you one other question. Now you see you've open the door you're gonNA. Regret it. You. Kind of how long had you been together prior to that? we've been together prior to that for four months. Wow I know I think though I think before you judge not you everybody listening before a judge too harshly hopefully by the time you're in your mid forties and beyond you kind of have an idea a little bit more quickly about what's going to work and what isn't in work the idea is that you know hopefully, you're applying the lessons that you've learned you know over the last thirty years or so of being with people, and so we both feel pretty confident. that. We did too I good. Yeah. Sounds like you found the right person she found the right person kovocs not easy for even couples who've been together a long time. No, and it's not always perfectly easy. But we're also not expecting everything to be perfect and seamless. You know we have families moving into a new city. And Kovic going on an even bigger even more emotionally and psychically if you'll permit that. Flourish Challenging has been the. UPRISE UIL in America and around the world with. Police brutality and just the larger institutional racism that's coming out in such a big way and. It has been challenged to not get depressed and I don't usually get depressed but this one, this one's been hitting hitting the me really hard, which has made me a little bit more challenging to be with them than usual. This uprising is long overdue and this course. So it's so tough emotionally it's really it's heart wrenching. So. I get it. We've been very. It's at setting that. How can this has been going on so long and how can? You. Know everybody have just turned a blind eye in the way that right and including me I've consider myself a very passionate active activist for years and yet since I don't live breathe every day you know my might raging outraged really feels pretty empty in in the rear view at this point you know. So I've had a lot of feelings of disappointed in myself in a why wasn't i? More. Consistently active in this over the years. Anyway not too much of a Downer everybody mulanje coming out It could be a really good roast theriot could net. This is how things change is an I mean hopefully. You know things get better from here. We can't let up. That's the thing. This can't. You a fad because then it will all have been for not. It has to be ongoing. We have to educate ourselves. You have to educate yourself not feel guilty just. Watch. Have you seen thirteen? Yeah have not watched thirteen yet. No, there's so many. Yeah. I know it's on I. Literally have a list one of my favorite Athletes NBA, basketball player named demarcus cousins, and he's played for the Lakers. Put out a or maybe he just re tweeted a grey list. It's a list of films and documentaries and things. So working their way down through that demarcus if you're listening you know. Really want to get back out there soon. So there's a lot of education. It'd be done a lot a lot a lot I appreciate you both I appreciate your time talking with me rambling hither and thither and covering. Whatever we just covered. So thanks for being on. We're grateful to you. I doubt is probably so grateful that were you've got us out of for air. Crate and welcome welcome to you both to the Super Nice Club you just got jumped in by being on the show your now members you know. So expected delivery van with just all kinds of swag. Anything. Yeah. Know like a big delivery van we have we have supervised logo What are we got right now I think they're Alfa Romeo's it was Martin's Kinda ran out we have some supernatural paragliders. Yeah or that I don't stick shift so. Well. Yeah. There were Miatas and those were mostly sticks. So I'll make sure we take care of it. Yeah. We will take care of you guys to price to provides. All right. Thank you guys look forward to talking with you again. Thank you so much time. So there. You have it a super nice conversation with Simon and Rosalind. and. I gotta be honest. Something about that conversation. Besides. The fact that there to. Really. COOL PEOPLE I got to I got to see them. There's a video thing the computers they talked to each other and I just see culpable whereas you only have to hear that they're cool people I got to see their cool close. The cruel style. ASPIRATIONAL. Something kind of bothered me about that podcast will be honest to tell you what is right now. I hope they're not listening. Really wanted him to meet on the set of star. Trek next generation really did even if it was just in like one of those escape pods or the shuttle craft that always. Shutdown or even if it wasn't on the bridge or in the captain's chair. Or even the relationship was consummated in the captain's chair. SAT wrong. I think it's wrong I. Don't think it's wrong at all science fiction. Fantasy genre so anything can happen. That's all I'm saying. Beyond that. I just thought that that was a great example of a couple who knows how to work together. Live together and just make it work. Just make it work. Why is it so hard to make it work? I didn't get any real answers. I didn't really big takeaways from those two. Why and how they made it thirty years, but I can take a guess. And a pretty sure that you'll will be on the same page with me which is that the. Royal Shakespeare Company. You know people the Royal Shakespeare Company. And the picking opera. They just they just know how to do better than the rest of us. You know. So you get one for the Peking Opera One from the Royal Shakespeare Company. They'RE GONNA be married for two hundred years guys seriously. So. Good for them. Anyway, if you like my ramblings or Babblings I, your real special person and you should subscribe to the Super Nice Club podcast do now the Nice work podcast you do. So I will I'll pick phone I will call you personally. Thank you. That you leave your number. This is not a creepy pickup line just trying to. Personalize the the business here. Working on. Small Business Right. You can also find supervise club dot com. It's really cool swag online at the website right shirt I'm wearing now that you can't see that says I believe in a nicer world because I do. Because we have to have one Oh, you can save fifteen percent off right now with this Count Code Ready Ready, Discount Code. Star. Trek. Pretty. Cool. If you're trekkie, how can you resist? 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48 - Jakob Greisen and Bonhams' 10th Anniversary Scottsdale Auction

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48 - Jakob Greisen and Bonhams' 10th Anniversary Scottsdale Auction

"From komiya there's a group of cars that made their impression. Every era has their own icon of cars. That really have become collectible. That was the voice of jacob grayson our guest today on cars that matter. This is cars that matter. This is robert ross. With the matter. Welcome to another episode in my guest today. Is jacob grayson. vp motoring with bonhams bombs. Tenth anniversary sale is happening in scottsdale arizona on january twenty. First two thousand and twenty one. And we're here to talk about some of the great cars that are going to be going across the ramp jacob. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much robert. Not only is this the tenth anniversary of omsk annual scottsdale auctions. But it's obviously going to be tackled in a little different way since so much has happened over the course of the past year jacob but i guess i to set the stage for our audience since they are car enthusiasts. I'm certain that they know that bonham's plays a prominent role on the world auction stage. You've got auctions everywhere from goodwood to geneva from. Mata monterey certainly. That's the highlight of august. Get do private sales. I remember a great sale. At the inaugural rishard meal concord and shanti france. And you had some incredible cars there. One of my favorites a maserati boomerang when across the stage. I've got a lot of highlights bookmarks and my personal catalog collection that remained near and dear. I believe that where we dressed up in full on tuxedos indeed the auctioneer and everybody was senate tuxedo with at the gala dinner that night. That was quite a time. Of course now. I imagine a lot of the people attending this auction are going to be in their pajamas. Or maybe they're veterans slippers because they can be doing it from the comfort of their own home. I know over the course of the last year. I participated in some bonham's auctions art auctions and of course those have all been online. But what makes them interesting. And i guess what's going to happen at your auction please. Fill in the blanks. Is that you actually have a live auction here at the resort and spa with the cars on view. But it's actually going to be an online venue. Is that how it works. That is very much how it works. Yes we have viewing onside at the western kill and in scottsdale with all the right social distancing measures in place. Of course we feel it's important to offer potential buyers and bidders a chance to really see the cars and for test drive things like that. An old car can hide a lot of grim. Things is really important that condition and everything is up to par. With what the buyer will he or she expects. So we have feeling and we're doing that but that's not be because we'll be further apart and everything. We have to keep it safe. We're doing of course. Spitting will be online also via telephone and absentee bidding is also possible. You will basically on the day of the auction just like if you were walking into our tent and monterey or in monaco or goodwood as you talked about we do auctions all over the world and basically if you will walk into the ten you will open to your computer and you'll lock in and you'll see the oxygen near and we'll sell every car lot by lot with video for every law. We mailed out a cadillac to our clients who can follow along in that way. I guess a lot of practice auction goers understand that really sometimes the stealthy est and most successful way to place bids as over the telephone even if you happen to be in the room. It's nice to know that some of the standard mechanisms of participation will remain and really the only differences. You can be drinking your own martiniere lounge chair while you're actually buying that car. Let's talk about the upcoming auction at some of the cars that are in there at just because by the way these cars are going to go across the ramp. The virtual ramp on january. Twenty first doesn't mean that what we say about them isn't relevant into the future. Because we're gonna talk about some what i'd like to say eternally shining stars in the collector car orbit. I'm looking through your catalog here. You get some crates stuff. Jacob and i think if i had to put a title on this catalogue it would be festival of the fifties because some of the most interesting cars are precisely from that decade. He had some real oddballs in here to. Maybe we should talk about a few of those before we get to the superstars or your auction. Suddenly you've got everything from an austin healey to a hunch jaguars which are of course perennial favorites. But you've also got an elephant you've got fifty four. Curtis talk about a few of these little oddities. If you can starring where you left off the curtis is really a lovely car. I'm speaking with a client about earlier today. Actually who's interested in asked me to go for garappolo. Curtis was a southern california manufacturer of special s. You called them and they made a great chassis. Then you fit different types of coach coachwork on at it has an american. Be eight engine. They are eligible for many great events. Such s the cover state one thousand or the colorado grand. Actually some of them even randomly lomilia back in the day for me. Personally the fifties is actually one of the greatest eras of course. It's right before race. Cars became full on race. Cars and a road car was something else. These cars will basically race cars that you could raise new. Could also drive him on the road. It's sort that balance before the early sixties when the car is really were to harry to drive on the road they were only made for the track or vice versa. Somebody can acquire a very special and exquisite little body on this car but really acquire a real fire-breathing race car from the fifties estimate. Probably in the mid one hundred's right. that's right. yeah one thirty one. Sixty s curtis. it really ticks. The boxes you know it's eligible. It's a fun car to drive a powerful v eight out front edge. Great looking very sorta sparse. There's not a lot of creature comforts but that not the idea. It's really to go fast eddie. Shelby go broder understands what creature comforts or lack thereof is all about the currencies and lacking any more than that he got a porsche speedster in there to a beautiful little fifty eight red speedster. That looks like quite a car when a car like a major manufacturer product like porsche. Mercedes' jaguar. you want everything to be right. You want it to be exactly as it was when it left the going. Back in the curtis. Those cars got different types of engines and things on a car speeds. You want everything to be original. The beautiful each hall has the original bonnie number stamped in the doors in the front and the rear hood or bonnet an engine. Let you tells you that. The body panels original also. The engine is matching numbers so as to transmission. All that stuff you want to be right. We have a copy of the original bill sheet that confirms all of that so the car addicts comes in clean and it looks like it's got some pretty special stuff on too. I see some chrome rudge's on there. That are just gorgeous. Color is red from you with the tan leather interior. Everything on that car is as it was when it left sufa now since nineteen fifty eight and also which is quite important. It's a t two which is sort of the fully evolved. Fifty eight is the last year the speedster. The original three fifty six speedster. They started they came out in the fifty four fifty four. Yeah we're the fifteen hundred gin. And then they got upgraded to sixteen hundred and the upgraded the steering box the upgraded the transmission and other sort of cosmetic details on the t to and it makes it quite a bit more desirable than a t. One again they're just such iconic cars that are usable for any events this cars restored to the nth degree. Several hundred thousand dollars has been spent on the restoration and it was actually a very good start with like we talked about. It has to be resolved bodywork and all that but it's done really to the absolute porsche concord judging standards and they remain icons. I think a lot of times. What makes a corner. Valuable is three to four elements aesthetics engineering history and some romance aesthetics. Speedster is beautiful car and many people's opinion engineering. I mean it's a poor shirts well-built the on s. I would say they have a reputation of being maybe a little bit of a volkswagen but the nine eleven was a little more sophisticated but it still well engineered car and history. I mean they want raises back in those days. A lot of sports car drivers and racing driver started out in a car like a porsche and again the romance so they were the least expensive cars in the three fifty six model up when new these were they were less than a crew less than a cabriolet. They were max off. Men's idea to get them to america so they could get some customers into porsches who might not be able to afford the more costly once. You're absolutely right oddly. Enough for being the least expensive car in the porsche lineup. Back in nineteen fifty eight. It certainly not the least expensive now in fact probably the most dear and desirable apart from some of the special one often carrera's. Yeah so this is a half million dollar plus car. I guess that's what it takes to get into the speedster world if you want the best of the best if you want the best of the best. That's about what it takes. You can get a nice driver. Maybe with a non matching engine for about half but the way i see the market these days people really by the very best cars and they pay up for those costs that have the pedigree and where everything was done. Right that's what people pay premium for. Something that is good but is in great is a very different price point. If you're gonna go go big and this one is definitely one of the prettiest speedsters. I've seen in a long time and by the way there's nothing better than ruby red speedster you can take all the other colors but ruby red for a speedster. It's hard to be. I agree you've got some other great fifties iron here one of them's a big boy. It certainly not the top of every collectors list but it was a very important car so many ways. That's your fifty six continental mark to that beautiful gordon. vera design. kind of an experiment of ford's wasn't it. They were really trying to move upmarket and they made about twenty five hundred or the east in nineteen fifty six. I think they lost money and every one of them. That's what they say not sure it's apocryphal. It's probably quite true. But they wanted to make a statement with a halo car that his sinus extra beautiful. There's not far from this. To to contemporary rolls royce of that era. They really pulled out all plucks to really special car. Maybe it's just my imagination but it seems like nineteen fifty-six a sort of a banner year for this auction of here is because you've got another very special. Kerr made that very same year. Which probably merit some deep discussion. And that's your mercedes benz. Three hundred sc roadster. Tell us all about that car. This is really a special special car. Mercedes in the mid fifties. They were back in business after world war two and how quickly they actually got back on their feet in nineteen fifty five famously. Of course moss won the meal. Amelia in about ten hours unless that law was also a horrible accident at among many things happened these years but their engineering and their quality of manufacturing was just very hard to beat the three hundred. Sc stor they made a roadster. They made a coupe and a capi really and the roadster many are considered the most desirable to convertible top folds down behind the seats. It's pure two seater not a four seater like the cabriolet. Furthermore this is the s. c. Which ac- identifies it a fuel injected. So it's basically three hundred s. l chassis. The same chassis. of course. three hundred sell shots was quite different. But engine and the layout rear axle and things like that it's from a three hundred s and then with a very elegant very timeless audio honor jacob. You talk about this car is being an icon and certainly it is. It was also a bit of an outlier for mercedes because on the one hand it has through the incredible released and high-performance in line six engine that was found in the three hundred s l. But in many ways it was a prewar car. In terms of its manufacturer chassis. It's look and certainly. The methodology of its manufacturer. Almost like a coach built car. Really which presents him real dichotomies both in terms of its driving character and in terms of what it takes to restore want to build quality what it took to put these cars together from new and nowadays to restore them. It takes a lot more effort than most cars especially at how the front fenders the doors bay line up. There are so many different dimensions there. That are extremely difficult to get right inside. You have beautiful wooden dashboard and wouldn't door caps and it is just luxury at a different level than the vast majority of manufacturers in the fifties they only made fifty three s c roadsters and this very example is matching numbers has its original coachwork delivered new to new york and i would suggest people buying restored like this car because like we talked about this car since extremely expensive. Not just because they're so complex in their build but also departs for them they may two hundred s sees in total so two hundred of the three hundred serious in fuel injected version. Fifty three roasters. They made about one hundred coupe and the balanced with a cap as that had a rear seat in the top. Sorta seven top the body. But would that. Few cars made parts are scarce and expensive. You've got an estimate of seven hundred. Seventy five thousand two eight hundred seventy five thousand the. It almost sounds like a bargain one of those cases where you pay for the restoration and get the car for free or vice versa because the restoration can certainly certainly eclipse happened million dollars on these cars. The other interesting thing is these cars. Were more money when new they cost more than three hundred s. Going on fifty six. You could also get a three hundred and so going. That was less money. It's very much like the porsche. Speedster where they were a lot less back then and now. They saw clips their counterparts. That's right you talking about restoring these things and you mentioned the front fender the door and that pontoon that continues back into the door boy. That is a challenge for even the best body man. Probably the only greater challenge would be the going door which has to fit in eighteen million different dimensions and fit smoothly. And these mercedes were not for the faint of heart when it comes to pull on her apart and putting it back together again. They will also owned by some of the most discerning clientele around the world. Cary grant and gary cooper pro and the con all had one of these three hundred. Sec this behind the wheel and just take us out for a quick drive in this car. You immediately feel the luxury and saw the build. Quality that is synonymous with mercedes benz three hundred. Sc was really the top of the line car in the mid fifties for mercedes benz. It's much like an s class today. So they sporty. They're not sporty there. Look sure yes. There are plenty fast and very comfortable but they were not made to win races and things like that. A good friend of mine is interested in buying more onto take on the colorado grand which is a thousand mile rally. I think you would have a very comfortable ride in the car like this. So they're usable for touring very much like a prewar car we talked about. How mercedes carrio or so. Some of the styling choose from the thirty s the same with the driveability. I mean the high speed straight line very comfortable cars but if you wanna go out huck the corners on mountain road. You should probably look for three hundred f. l. We'll be right back in just a moment here on cars that on medicine where still practicing join dr steven pay back and bill kurtis for real conversations with the medical professionals who have their finger on the pulse of healthcare in the modern world available on all your favorite pod casting platforms produced by kirk. Oh media back with jacob grayson. I see another car in the catalog. That in some ways might be the most intriguing and it's certainly one that has those two words after its description that says refer department which means that. This is a very special card indeed. You're thirty nine five forty k. Special cabriolet this is really as far mercedes. Benz came before world war two. The five forty k. Was very much like a model. J duesenberg or some of the best rolls royce. This eight cylinder supercharged engine. One hundred eighty horsepower. This is ninety years ago. I mean that's pretty impressive. Five speed manual transmission. These were all quite bespoke. Cars mercedes benz their in in-house coach. Builder sindelsingen a catalog of five or six different body styles. But then they have some that got special treatment. This car for example is one two that got a raked windscreen and other details inside and out to the first owners special wishes very special build. It was delivered new to paris and already ventured off to the us in the fifties as sort of car collecting started becoming a thing. The first us owner was james. Melton jim nelson who was pioneering car collector. Much along the lines of bill harra. He really had some great cars and have an eye for that point. Twenty thirty year old car being something other than just a used car Later orders chandler owned it in nineteen seventy-three without giving up the secrets. This is a multi dollar cars. I right that is right. Yes car like this actually end up. Should it go to a collection. Sit on a podium somewhere or should it be driven. Can it go on a rally. What would you do with the car like this. One of the previous onus who we talked about earlier jim melton. He actually drove it quite a bit. You took it too. Many car shows and concours around the us but since the seventies it has been very marked collection type car that if started up and used sparingly. I do think this important should be in a collection. But we're seeing where people can come by and see it. I think that's important and many collectors or quite open to showing their cars and take them out to concord events or invite people. I hope people will get to see it in future as well. It sounds like we're hanging around germany here but gotta talk about w bmw that most folks wouldn't associate with the mark people think about bmw's now they call them the ultimate driving machine and all the contemporary look and feel of course bmw. Didn't really get big america until it came over here with sixteen hundred in two thousand two but before that time they made some very rare very special. Very high performance cars fifty nine bmw 507 roadster one of my personal favorites. This was very much. Bmw's answer to the three hundred s l. roadster in the fifties and. I just really loved the styling of this car. They made two hundred fifty three of them on the way they designed. That just really really works. I think it just have sort of light and sporty. Look i believe the designer was outlay cough goods who made other famous cars. In fact. I guess this was another one of mac's hoffman's brilliant ideas the american importer. Who got porsches little speedster over here and was involved with mercedes benz and he got bmw to introduce this thing around mid fifties right. Max hoffman being sort of a leading european car importer to the states. He saw that many. Gi's in american military personnel who come to europe to help end war to they had taken note of all the little british sports cars and german sports cars running around the smaller roasts europe. That's probably where it all stems from. There was probably a more sporty. Feel for cars over there. Where american cars were bigger and it was just a different idea what max kaufman did with the three hundred or sell of course and the 507 was have these cars made and they obviously got very popular. There were like nothing else on the road. Probably not a commercial success much like the continental mark to we talked about. Bmw lost money and every one of these but it made their mark on their era. The fifties i think one would argue is probably the most collectible so much so that when the eight came out i believe in the early two thousands. You know that was retro designed to the five. I'm glad you brought that up. Because i was going to remark that retro designs typically don't fare too well they're usually much too contrived most too derivative and much too obvious but the z eight was a car that actually paid a very respectful homage to the original 507 and sort of carried the theme along in a very elegant successful way. Usually that doesn't happen. So i think that's testament to not only the talent of bmw designers in the two thousands but the fact the 507 was such an enduring design. That could be translated so beautifully you look the card at a and it looks thoroughly modern. The proportions are right. The sporting mrs right every line on that car is right and not just outside. Evenly interiors exquisite. Dave really got it right in the design and also like we talked about earlier for me. There's three elements that make car collectible valuable and desirable and that's engineering history and the aesthetics. We talked about the aesthetics. It's very very beautiful. Car in many people's opinion engineering were they had an all aluminum. V eight engine. It's time to have an all aluminum engine these fears and it wasn't the fastest. But it certainly made the cargo quite well. They also had a set of transmission. You know of course all four speed manual but that was one of the best transmissions. It's still if they actually end. The brakes and the suspension was also really sporty and made the koran. well it's an absolutely exquisite card. I don't think anyone would have imagined fifteen years ago. For instance that these cars would be worth what they're worth today. What's the estimate on this. One one point nine to two point three million okay. So that's the price of admission for a nice 507 gathering. This is a particularly nice. One it definitely. Ds's cars won't buy some of the most famous people the day elvis presley had one. Of course the prince of monaco had won. I mean these were really what to be. Seen in in the fifties and the price point. Well they made eighteen hundred three hundred l. roadsters and they're about half price a little bit more than half price of five or seven. So you know if you add it up they have been selling in that price range for some time we at bonhams show the most vulnerable five of seven ever sold at auction and i quite sure privately. We sold the 507 of the late. Bmw factory motorcycle driver. John surtees also the car. Racer later on. I believe it was but he was gifted the car from bmw. I well you might have had to pay something for it. But he had won the championship and got a brand new five seven and it stayed in his family until we sold it and we got a world record. Price of nearly it was a pound was a little bit different. We sold it at our goodwood auction but it was around five million dollars for original. One family owned five or seven. Certainly you've got some star cars in this auction. You've got some cars that mere mortals might go after as well you've got without question. What is the weirdest car of all would have to be. I think the little nineteen fifty. Four metal mechanica. Italian val trumpy Me vaseline lino as quite a mouthful. What a great little micro car medicare. i guess you'd call it. What is there to know about that message. Nick worker that'll micro-car got europe back onto four wheels after world war. Two a lot of these michael kors. They were opposite in cost a lot. We see an inexpensive to run messerschmitt fighter planes in world war two. They turned their production intrude. Cars and new ball people mo malino was actually a Based out of brescia it a company that had made bicycles and other things and they were licensed by message make to produce an italian version of the messerschmitt. So that's basically what this is. They have their own engines and they had different body design and things like that. This very example is was sold new. Well it wasn't actions sold but it will set a meal motorcycle dealer in italy and stayed with that family until about i wanna say early two thousand so so basically stayed with it probably not on the same showroom floor but it was never sold from the original dealer for about fifty years and then joined the quite famous micro collects and all the cars are sold now but a fruit winer out in a believer in atlanta. This example is extremely original is never been taken apart painted anything like that. They own about a hundred of these italian license. Messerschmidt's it's a beautiful little thing and for somebody who hasn't got room in their garage for continental mark to this might be a more fitting resident for one of the shorter stolz. Take a short break. We'll be right back. Welcome to life done. Better listen to the weekly episodes where supermodel and health coach. Jill young talks to some of the world's most inspiring women in health and wellness. It's the place for all the unicorns who strive to create a life on their own terms. Join us to explore. Discover and create a life done better together. Listen and subscribe from kurt co media media for your mind. Welcome back to cars that matter. I wonder if we can talk about generally the changing tastes if you will the future trends that you see especially as regards the new landscape four auctions with virtual auctions being more of the norm and very likely to continue into the future even afterward through this pandemic. What are you seeing collectors. Raising their paddles for now. I see collectors raising their paddles for truly collectible cars which means that the car is very much like it was when it left the factory when it was new so cars with original engines and components cars that are truly original which would be kresa vacation car or car. That's never been painted or have the insurer replaced that is actually more desirable. These days than restored core and that was very different back in the eighties and nineties about it. It's much like many other forms or collecting. Have been such watch or an old piece of furniture. it's been fully restored. It's actually less desirable than if it's original and hasn't been tampered with narrowly originally once that's correct in every decade. There is a group of cars that made their impression and every era sort of has their own icons of cars that really have become collectible. We still sell cars that are hundred and some years old for big money. But it's really only the ones that really made an impression on that era there certainly somewhat of a generational shift with pre roll cars but then again the most important pre well cars like an eight cylinder al for great duisenberg something bad or s collectible as they've ever been but the sort of second tier or third tier of say four door sedan of low horse power packard or something like that is not a desirable as it was twenty thirty years ago so generally people by what they remember from their childhood. And you're born in the twenties thirties forties. We're getting up there so the really important cars. They're really made their mark on any generation. Still remain very collectible. I often say if you walk into the or an art museum. Many of the pieces you've seen were made centuries ago and they're still very desirable and pop since early. The best of the best will always remain relevant. What are you see coming about in the way of more recent cars. Would you want to speculate on that in terms of cars from the eighties and nineties. Maybe even future classics. I think it is really about the cars that made their mark. On this specific area. There were built in what you remember. From the nineties we have a really great lonchamps. Bellsa integral lay highly. Yes i saw that yeah. Those cars have become extremely desirable in the last five to seven years. And why is that. Well they won the rally world championships six years in a row and they really made a mark on that era so many of the group b cars are becoming very collectable and so they really speaks nineteen eighties better than any other car up. Who the two thousands. They're definitely some limited production cars that income instant collectibles to a degree. Maybe a porsche. Carrera g t you know two thousand four five eight ford. Gt from the same era and elegant the more modern ones. They really never sold for less than their list price. And i think they'll have a nice curve upwards in future years absolutely especially when they become about thirty or forty years old a lot of times. That's when you see a car. Really saw an uptick in price. A lot of us have been surprised by the performance in the market of some of these more recent offerings like the porsche and the ford and whatnot. I guess there are opportunities that are bound for people even buying new cars today. It'll be interesting to see what happens over. The course of the next decade harari porsche. They're putting out a lot of limited edition models and a lot of times. They shot to draw a line between that. And the early cars or from the sixties and seventies and really. Play up their heritage. I think there's probably a little too many new modern limited edition models coming out for the market and a hefty price tag and. I think we can't forget that. A cargo truly has to be collectible and makes it collectible as much as what's under the skin and the sign and things like that you see a car much one being one of the most collectible cars of all time people compared with gio of the sixties or maybe a two nine out for thirties. And why is that well. Everything on that car was made a sack me as specifically just for that car but then having a lot in the fifties and sixties but you rarely saw that in the eighties and nineties has commented factors were while they grew bigger and urged. You don't have the same sort of exclusivity in their manufacturing s. You did back today on the mexican enough what that's right. It's like a very limited edition. Watch not talking rolex or something. Like that or protect philippe even but a george daniel raj. He made really made about fifty watches in his lifetime. And that's basically on team. I mean that's on the same. Level mcferrin watch. This is a fun conversation. I can't let it go without asking a few questions about you. How did you get into cars. My dad's car guy. So i grew up in. He has a puccio dealership in denmark. Where i'm from grew up really starting to like an appreciate cars. And when i was fourteen we bought an m. g. h. together little british sports car also from the fifties and be bought it in the states in boxes basically and restored that and that really sparked interest in classic or collectible cars. I then went to. America was going to be here for six months and that eighteen years ago and i believe i met the right. People and create gentlemen in san. Diego was still very good friend of mine. Chuck's bill meant and his friend. Neil wish art. Who really mentored me. And i worked in their collections for years and then i started in the auction. I'm always tempted to ask what's in your garage. It'd be got anything special that you particularly love. I still have the mj with now for more than twenty five years. I've owned some great nine eleven so with the years i had a lotta spree. I sold that after driving that for about five years right now he is the only car i have parking spots in los angeles a quite expensive and in the future. I hope there will be more. Well i'm glad that little. Mg is still in the collection. You know that's a car that doesn't get enough credit for being as absolutely beautiful as it is. It's got in many ways the kind of proportions and the smooth lines and just the real gracious elegance of even the bmw 507 stay look great. The also handled really well like this breaks from fifty nine onwards minus fifty nine than they really made a great car to throw it out one last question to all our guests eighty three cars. You could put your garage. Let's see had a bigger garage and you could have the keys to any three cars. What do you think they'd be at two fifty. I think that would take all the boxes for me that definitely. It's the spot. That's great well. Jacob grayson bottoms. Thank you so much for joining us today. Obviously i wanna wish you. All the best of success at your upcoming tenth anniversary scottsdale arizona auction on january twenty first. Two thousand twenty one. I'm going to be tuning. In and watching. Silently from afar may be like a popcorn or a cocktail depending on the time. Look forward to seeing some of these exciting cars cross the virtual block. Yes if you tune into bonhams dot com forward last scottsdale you can see all the action right there on your screen jacob gracie bonham's vp of us motoring for joining us today on cars. The matter come back time as we continue to talk about the passions. The drivers and the passions. We drive who subset of cars. That matter was hosted by robert. Ross produced by chris porter edited by chris porter. Theme song. by celeste eric additional music and sound by chris porter. Please like subscribe and share this podcast. I'm robert ross. Thanks for listening. 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Unsullied (ep 37.)

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"Once again to episode thirty seven of fantasy theater. I am Spencer false in with me today. America's favorite guest host the father of dragons. It's just the Hampton. I like that name like that name father of dragons is this really episode thirty seven thirty seven weeks straight. Sestina out if you guys you you you basically at this point have given birth to something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hey, you have brought this thing through the full. Nobody's in the waiting room at cigar. If I had known. I mean, no one's there. No one's giving me high fives or anything except for you, which I appreciate congrats. Thank you. Thank you everybody. I would not let it die this week. We came pretty close to breaking that streak. But we're here we're here at nine pm on a Tuesday work night because you're dedicated very dedicated Joe bell had a work trip this week. So he will not be joining us. And I've course will be in Nashville the second half of this week. So I'm so glad that you could come up so that we can make famous theorem. So thirty seven happened. It's got to. Okay, now, the quality of the show who knows who knows that will go. But we're here. It's f- in the air. There does the first of all how have you been since last year on the show is life trainer will? Yeah. I good. You know, me just I'm here. I don't have fancy trips in Nashville. I don't get to go to. I'm just here. Oh, you did see a month ago? Stop it. You had of a board game convention that was not the people that man Menam Hewlett put it on the guy with the the monocle was there that was pretty cool. That was a great experience. That was I didn't get blown away by the tornado. Thank the Lord. I'm still here. But yeah. But knobbly their other video who else makes board games. I know their board game companies Milton, Bradley, Jay, Bradley. He did Manado where. Yeah. I was Milton. He's old. Okay. So not great. Dusty we always start off the show with a core. Value contact. Yeah. No, you know this. What did you bring I today? Well, let me tell you what I brought here. So here's what here's the first thing. I did I thought I would do a little research into the real already be Joe what what into the real core values of Jove's company. Actually published on their website tread lightly. Okay. Okay. There may be lawyers. I went there. I the decided I'll do my. So I decided I would go with personal growth the blue. I know right. This was actually this was spurred on by a conversation. We had recently about learning new things which which is also going to tie something else later. But, but here's my advice to you. Don't get stuck doing nothing. Do something new where do you got a better yourself physically or mentally or spiritually or whatever you feel like you need to do? Don't get to where you're just satisfied with who. You are what you are try something. New better yourself in some way, too many people get just they get to a spot, and they're happy, and they're stuck better yourself in some way, personal growth. Absolutely. Hey, that's vice we could all here. You know, what you you got you got this fool life? And I know we all work, but you gotta do something between five and nine. And I know it seems like all I do is watch TV, but I have other interests I play smash brothers. And that that good to grows. My thumb you're up to like ninety million. Yeah. Oh, I'm in the ninety fifth percent Legaue while I grovel. Yeah. Baby. We're gonna see your name somewhere soon, personal growth. So just to just pick it up. You got an interest. You just start doing it right away. You're not going to be good at it right away. You gotta start somewhere though. Never too late to start absolutely Milton. Bradley, he wants to take up a hobby older. See is he could do it. Go for it. He's like I'm tired of making boardgames WW NBD what Hilton brand. Well, let's great. That's that's a lot better than mine. I doubt that he we go. I wanna talk about. Okay. Here's an there's an underlying motivation for me bringing this up I tended to do a little bit more research completely forgot about but I want to bring up water bottles. What about now, you may think this is going to be a recycling bit nuke? No. So I've been weighed too lazy to save the planet. I'm like, I'm not going to be. This is more about not wasting the water in the water bottle, man. What does not grow on trees? I think I know where you're going berms me up. If you decide, hey, I'm thirsty. I think grab a bottle of one you making a commitment that is a marriage. You drink the entire thing, especially as nicely at someone else's house. You don't go to my house and waste my one. No, someone goes to my house. They take three six bottled water pay for they laid on the table. They leave it sitting there. I'm like, I don't even know what to do with that. I wanna drink it. But also other people's mouths. Drink you. What what take it with you finish there in the chair. I I bet your last work conference. You saw what I saw my last work where they give out free bottles of water, people grab it they take one sip. And they leave it on the table. Every way I just want to I want to rescue the water. I wanted in me. I know we we need water, but at the sample drinking after you, so take it with you take it with you throw in the trash. I just need it away for my view. What? Any voice? Dummies. I don't so I'm not a leftover guy. You know? I'm like why he'd leftovers win. I cook food now could have food that was made two minutes ago. But when I make something I eat at all, okay. Either though. Life's too short to wash dishes. I got a bunch of plastic stuff. Throw it away. Just throw it away. Aren't you? Don't have to go through this big long process. But when you cook, I'll tell you, I'll tell you the other thing when you cook. When you use your tools for cooking. Pans, pots spoons stool. You you wash them before you eat wash them before you eat you feel much better you feel much better. Because then once you eat, you can sit down relaxing got another think about if you eat, and you got all those dirty dishes, and they're not relaxed. He's supposed to relax FD. That's brilliant. Wash him as you go wash. Some core values exploded, thank I go all over the plastic planet. Here's a fun back about water bottles, the expiration date that stamped on the side is not for the water. It's for the ball. Hey, me, and you both on rented who. Learn from somewhere day, I learned. Yeah. Well, just help people lot. I'd like to think so. Well, the first ten minutes of fantasy theater a lot of people's lives. Probably just say they can stop right there. Someone out there. Just put the bills down. Yeah. And the bottle of water don't. Don't you drinking? So I wanna do things a little bit differently. I wanna I wanna go ahead and bring if you ain't you ought to be to the forefront. You said, well, that's good. Because I go ahead spill mine, you know, what it was. If you ain't learn something new. I swear that's what I had play. It is the last thing you said and the kind of ties into the other one. Don't just stop better and yourself, but learn something new, and I read the other day that there is nothing. You can't learn on the internet today. Anything anything any knowledge? Mankind has ever held is on the internet somewhere. You have to look forward. Pay us scripted side. There's nothing you can't learn in a ten year college degree that's not online somewhere. So you think the truth of everything's on the internet? Pretty deep. That must be pretty big pay wall. Anything I'd be interested in probably out there somewhere. It's it's out there. Finance? Play whatever. Just learn something new what you're saying is all of learning like in a classroom is useless because everything's on the internet. I I work in I work in still working education. I'm outside the classroom in part of what I've done where I work because I've helped start an online learning program where we no longer see students in person. They learn online that is the future of education. We are moving that way statewide where we no longer see students in traditional classroom. They instead do everything on the computer. We upload YouTube videos to supplement those lessons that we ride, and they do everything they need from home. Sounds fantastic. It's coming. It's coming. It's almost too. So teachers we already don't care about them. And now that we have to see already treated out you have to look at win win. Well, here that's coaches your time's coming. All right. So do something new this something new learn something new that's fantastic. Yeah. You can learn anything on learning the new yacht to be you could just go. Look if you're not a fan of ready. You really can learn a lot on rented and read it, you you had these different sub. It's and one of them is called a mentioned earlier today. I learned and you really awesome facts and stuff on there. You really could learn a lot of very interesting absolute you'll lot of time when you're doing your business. So what what have you? Yeah. You know, when you board at whatever we all have to make to. We we all have those moments. Drink the water. If you ain't play in spite ball. He ought to be. I played like two hours. Spite ball this past Sunday in the sun. Took my shirt off got a nice tan going all I felt amazing. Now, it did beat me up quite a bit. Because I fall I get them place backbone, I die because the best thing to do when you hit the balls to, you know, be low as possible. But anyway, if he'd never blades spike ball, it's a game with a little trampoline. It looks like something your I don't know. Your mother might have bought to exercise on in nineteen ninety nine blessed the eighties. Yeah, you go eighties chore. Not even my references. Don't even go back. It's a little bitty trampoline and you play to onto and you you're next to you teammate. And it's just like volleyball rules what you have three hits to hit that ball off that trampoline to the other opponent. It is a blast. It is so much fun. I wanna do it competitively. It's a mixture of volleyball ping pong and Richard Simmons extras out of. That's exactly what it is. I'm gonna wear singlet next time. I don't blame me. I'm gonna wear a single. It is our dedicate my life to. I wanna I wanna I wanna go around and market the goodwill of spike ball. It's I before you showed it to me. I'd never heard of it. I gotta be honest with you. We play ball in needs some of these these odd. I'm sure it came from overseas somewhere, I guess, but botchy botchy, Bah. She'll have the teach you. Oh, please. Do a great word. It is. When it comes to the level of physicality. There's spike ball on one in. There's there's botchy ball. That goes against my rule on. It's it's a lot of fun. I don't play sports. Botchy ball. I'll tell you that. I forget it. Get it. I wanna be heat exhausted. I don't wanna play well that spike ball. Definitely. That's it. I I heard that some people play in sand. That's probably actually how it was meant to be played not interested not interested Santa much harder to walk on. And I I like my shoes on not interested in San keep it keep it the mutt. Would be fun. Lim has their big mud volleyball game once a year UIs fest where they dig like a two foot mud pit and you play volleyball in a mud pit. They did that mess magnates too. I remember watching that play a spike vol in that speaking of Magnus does your light by the size of where I went to college because I don't like giving them any credit for what I, but what does your does your college still send you emails? Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. You know, this is the weirdest thing in the world. I swear to you. This is true. I get emails all the time from from Louisiana tech for your mother. Why come to be like once a month? I've never told her they've been coming since like, I went to college. I don't know how they got my Email address for her. But I I can't Mike monthly for your mother from tech. Let's little crazy. It really is some points in your lives. You'll have the same last name saying that way back when Email addresses were new, and she didn't have one I must have helped her out and gave her mind, I guess to subscribe to Email list and Dorothy Hampton comes in all the time. It's pretty weird. That's crazy. I got an Email from magnates today, which really surprised me because I have been on subscribed for a long time. But it seems like every year they put me on some kind of new list in and usually just one one thing they want my money, of course, on Monday, you an alumna don't you to help with that? That's right. I feel like you mean money you hadn't given him enough yet. I don't have much you gave him. But it wasn't enough. I'll give you everything back in the money plus drain most expensive piece of paper. I ever bought my life. You still won't meme paid for parking garage. Learn never pardon. That's a dead gum. Shame. I'm gonna go book. You should. When you're in the area, that's a legal, man. I've on subscribed. Yeah. Once grabbed Anita like a male chimp lawyer. On their. I'm sure they're out there. There's an app for that. Oh, man. Well, is it time to get into adventures o? I guess you want to put the kids to sleep. Yes. This is the part of the show where we will get dupe on adventures in game. And if you have not seen it, stop, stop listening. You have plenty of warning. Now. Spoiler alert. We're going to spoil it all we're gonna spoil vendors in game. That's right. Like thanksgiving dress and left out overnight completely spoiled. I don't do leftovers. How many times have you? How many times have you seen in game? I have seen any game one time one. But I watched it hard the first time I've seen it twice as much as you baby. Literally. What did you think it was holy cow lives long steadily walk and it was good. And I'll be honest with you. I feel like, you know, I'd I'd read that the previews for the movie were deliberately misleading, of course, that they had filmed scenes that weren't in it in that kind of stuff and. After about five minutes in the movie. I was like what am I watching the previews did not reveal any of this? Yeah. I was completely good. Good job to those guys for misleading us. I had no idea. What I see? Yeah. They've done a great job at that L even have shots from the movie that will have people taken out of those shots for the trailer out of context. Like, it doesn't it all reveal the story of the movie. So I wanted to go through some things that will work informing in vendors. You know, I was mostly positive Android myself enjoying myself. I was touched most of the time. Definitely some things that did not click fun. Yeah. That's to be you know, when you have a twenty two film arc. That's that's understandable. That's hard. That's hard to culminate, man. We had a pressure twenty minute podcast without phone minutes. I can't imagine making twenty two movies over years a long time. So let's start with what was will confirm it. I I thought every moment that was supposed to come across. Is is heavy. Yeah. Words like all those big emotional moments. Hit me hard everything where they were trying to tug at my heartstrings. Well, they got him. They took him out. Agreed. They took him out 'specially on a second watch. My favorite moment, though, was probably peppered telling Tony that we're going to be okay when he was dying. Yeah. You can rest now you can rest now. Yep. I watched it in the theater and some the two girls in the back row that were they weren't crying Spencer. They were weeping weeping at that scene. It was. I mean, it it was it was it was a bit for C -able. I guess maybe. That's why didn't I didn't shed a tear. But oh, God these girls had it rough. I mean that's been foreseeable ever since doctor strange told him that. I'm sorry, Tony when he said in Finnity war. This is the only way and he said, I'm sorry. Yeah. I was like, wow, something bad. So is one that wasn't working for the black. Widow in Hawkeye seeing. The whole new I died. Over and over. Yeah. Fill a little flat foamy. Yeah. In also nebula NEB, you know, she's the blue one. More or less. What happened to her sister on that planet? Right. So maybe there should have been some warning. Like, hey, whoever's going to one of these a dive say right beforehand like all right? Bye. Yeah. Nobody nobody told that's another thing that kind of blew my mind, you know, the whole conversation movie about we can never see her again. She's gone forever. And meanwhile, I'm watching damore walk around. Like, hey, y'all know this. I haven't heard anybody say anything about that. Then just in time out. That's another thing with all the time travel stuff, you're either onboard with the rules of the universe that they make or you're not. Yeah. And if you're not you're gonna hate it. And if you're on board, you can let yourself enjoy it. Try not to think about that. Time travel's a big cookie to bite off man. But I gotta say that they'd okay with the whole split time line. You know, you can't answer every question. I guess that's the best way to describe my wife had a lot of issues with them. Even though they they did a whole scene to explain it. The whole thing that going back and changing the past doesn't affect the future. Yeah. That was all that was a hard hurdle for. Yeah. And I was like, well, let's put that scene in there because they want you they want you to get that out of your head. Like, I thought when nebula shot the other nebula that she should have. Yeah. I think deep with with Tom travel movies too. And you know, that was definitely the forefront of my mind. But I'm like, you know, they did the best they could with explaining. I forget what movie it was. It may have been. I don't think it was one of the Harry Potters. There was some movie that dealt with time travel within the last five or six years or so and early on in the movie, the the main characters are having a conversation about time travel, and how to understand in what it means. And finally one of 'em is like you can't you just candidates stop right there. And that makes the whole bit make sense then because he explained from the very beginning. You can't possibly understand draft. They go. I'm not breaking out my quantum book after getting with vengeance. He was right. Look. Interstellar? Yeah. Yeah. So one of the things that was definitely working for me was fat Thor. What a freaking beast every shot the the theater was laughing areas day low. Larry's those so great every. I would he's talking when he's threatening the guy on the fort in height and always amazing when he's explaining what the Infinity stolen that was trapped in one of his old flames, that's strain. Yeah. They definitely milk. The company of that tastic if he winds up being guardians three. Oh, gosh. Oh my gosh. That's that would be pretty funny. That sounds fantastic. So the future in past nebula? So from what I understood on a second watch. They were basically connected over wifi pretty much everybody like walking hotspot and there's like, oh, no. There's two spots with the same. Even try to explain that one. Because I don't know how they would have got just like I can access the best. Yeah. Why can you do that all of a sudden same place? I don't know. That was weird. That's a pretty strong signal. That was that was we the other thing that was good was captain, America's ho- luck his match ration- into a beaten down man that eventually finds absolute peace willing Thors. Hammer was incredible. We knew it was coming from the shake from that. I shake got me so high man that was a blast blast. I enjoyed the battle scene. I will say that Thanos just didn't necessarily do it for me in this movie. He really felt like if felt like he was more of a cloud hanging over the movie than an actual part of it. Yeah. Well, you know, even at the end, I keep having ask myself. Was he the good guy? I mean, you have forget he was he was not some evil villain. Hell bent on destroying half the world. His goal was to save half the entire universe by the only method that was possible killing the other half because a limited tour. So what I'm thinking? Now is okay here we have the end of injures and forty years from now the entire earth stars death because people so now they've doomed the entire planet of what they've done. I can't help the thing. You know here. This guy is dynamite. He's the one version that was actually fighting to save everybody, but do by paying the ultimate price. What did it cost everything he told him, exactly? And I feel like he was man. So what? But what he had decided by the end of this movie, though, let's kill him because he wanted to. Well, this is gonna work and is gonna feel good. He said he looked around at the planet, which he was only one welcome thin talking about these looked around the bland, and he said people have not thrived like I thought they would I see. Now what I must. I do I must Radic eight life as a whole. But I like what he said after that. He's like the the life then create will only know what I have given them in not what I've taken from them as long as people are around that. No what I've taken they will not move on. So in that instance, you know, he was right? But we got to delay now that led best laid plans. But it's right. Where you shocked that they went and killed them in the first five minutes. Yeah. That's the part where I was like okay confused now because you know, he's in the previews and everything and I'm like if they kill him. Now how in the world is he show up for the next two hours. But yeah, very quickly. I realized I don't know what I'm gonna see here today completely shot. I hate to end on a sour note with the avengers. Because I really did enjoy the movie it's been a great twenty two movie run. And by the way, Spiderman comes out in July. And that is the official end of this phase, by the way, it always part of it too guarding guys three. Yeah. That's that's on the plane for later can be delayed because of the whole James guns situation. But you know, there are phases. So phase two in with the second of interest Bubba. So this is the end of I think face three. Okay. I got you. But it ends with Spiderman did not end with the second finito war. Yeah. So they made that so keep your eyes on the Spiderman movie because I think there's going to be a lot of carryover mitt make sense lot of Carrio. Yeah. Okay. My sour note, though. So obviously, some of the geez are pretty much leaving after this movie. Yep. So they gotta have something to carry them into the future. And there are couple of promising stars Black Panther Spiderman, even doctor strange may be okay. But you know, who they're counting on who sucks. Captain mall. Mis- mis- softball team, captain or sill? I feel like they she was a little to overpower watching her anything would not be that great because she's pretty much just going to blow through whatever they put in front of her. And it's just kind of. Well, she's definitely over Ballard's also has zero boasted now she has the worst haircut I've ever seen. She's the business of injure. She's the she's the Muslim is gonna be the Mamba. When she was like, I gotta go deal with stuff. Don't other planets, please please get away. Okay. Shoo shoo go to go to Pluto in Chiel, man. Don't be on my camera. And that's because pretty Larson's fantastic. Not winter give something more to marble change that care to. But. Yeah. Vendors in game is great. Yeah. I agree. It's already the second highest grossing film of all time. I feel like it'll pass Vitor. I think so you'll blow it out of the water. Yeah. Think so might be the first ever to three Bill Athey worldwide fantasy theaters gonna make a billion dollars to one of these days. One of these days. We'll come in for your Joe Rogan. Whoever. The fuck guests. King is. That will say to Desi. Appreciate you coming on. My pleasure, sir. We got game of thrones to talk about who. Yeah. So definitely check out that episode if you into game of thrones. But for the main show, we out screw kick us rule.

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Marvin Mitchell: Making A 20x ROI With Virtual Assistants!

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Marvin Mitchell: Making A 20x ROI With Virtual Assistants!

"Learn how old. Hey everyone danny ramsay here from my out. I'm i'm super excited because i got my guy marvin mitchell here. He's from compass retirement solutions. Marvin thanks so much for being here today. Hey thank you dan you. I'm a big fan of yours by the way i love your book. Okay good. we're gonna talk about that and everything else now. What's cool about you your financial advisor and you're here as a desk clients. I wanna to break that down man. Let's say real quick about how you got into the business and then what you're up to today. Oh absolutely so i i. I had no intention of being a financial advisor. Daniel to be quite frank which started my career due to tragedy I was the assigned borne by single. Mom she was only sixteen years ago. She became pregnant with the time she was twenty three twenty four. She had me and my two younger sisters and we grew up homeless we struggle. She got divorced and we were in a shelter and because of that had to move in with my grandmother and my sister's data's wale in grandmother she taught us a lot of values. am because of my grandmother's name was bad. He became the first person in my family to graduate from college graduated from southern illinois. University of it was the winter texas to attend law school. I never thought about becoming a financial advisor into my grandmother. Became sick she got. Some bad advice ran out of money because of a stock market crash. She had no long term care insurance and when she passed away she felt like she was a burden so i decided to go into the industry really a memory of my grandmother and it turned out to be one of the best decisions i could ever make him and it turned out to be a really really really powerful life change for me because thank god. I didn't have to be a lawyer. I love it man i love it you know. It's funny how we always go into school thinking we're going to be one thing. And then we ended up greatly different path amazing by the way i have a grandmother named betty this crazy. I'm not kidding okay. So great out of out of tragedy. You made life change and career move. Where are you today One of the things. I wanna to talk about you know the tv stuff that you do the books that you've written. I i really respect how you generate business and revenue and grow your company. So let's break that down. Where are you today well today. Two thousand seventeen. We were actually ranked as one of the top five financial advisers in the country by retirement advisor magazine Win became close. I believe we ended the top three. Yeah we actually Of an revenues doing about two point seven million dollars in revenues right now at eight team members in addition to myself that a couple of other advisors who were working in our particular office. Not the smartest person in my office. we do about ab public events per year. We educate the community. We also have a tv show. It was really tv. Show what we do is. We're actually part of the new so about two or three times a week. We'll come in for a live interview Actually we paid for that and but they liked our content so they actually brought us back on a do it for free as part of the news station. I are pretty well so have authored three books. Now we do a we do a radio show. So we're on a radio three times a week and really. It's all about attracting business to us and becoming a local celebrity. Still unlikely to myself that way but really. We don't do cold calls or anything like that anymore. We subtract business by giving away our books once we get that lee. That's where my out best comes the end because the virtual assistance. They're following up on those lease getting him on our calendar and That's really making our time. More efficient saving us literally hours of time because we don't have to skim through all of those individuals to find the most qualified people we built the targeted system prequalified those individuals who technology virtuous distance contact the people prequalified sent fifteen minute retirement income strategy sessions and we call those retirement strategy session appointments and we set face to face meetings typically when they come in ready to go. Because we've already qualified. What i love it. One one thing. That's very cool about our businesses. That you and i run them very similar. Which is yeah. I mean we're an inbound marketing company to. I mean we create content people. Come in. we hopefully help them. We do a strategy session. It's very similar model. And i think it's the it's the it's way most businesses are moving these days and when you first came to us though. We had some work to do and i want to do that. I wanna talk to you that because to you it was a it was an accident. That i got on. Mccall way down with daniel so as a hired a virtual assistant in the virtual assistant. They sent me up. Basically your company set me up with a one on one orientation. Yup i got an email and i believe that email was from someone on your team talking about the one. Our conversation with you. And i was fused. I thought i was walking into a normal orientation. But i was actually talking to the guy. Yeah yeah at my out. There was pretty cool and in basically as we were conversation. You told me a couple of things that i really think helped me first off. I was going to hire one. Virtual sis challenged me say typically. You always wanna hire two people because you wanted to be almost entirely competition against one another in gonna raise that level so we we actually took you up on their. We hired to beckham thing that you told me is that i think you'll get more response from For people sat in meetings. If you actually name your process and we didn't have a name for it we just said if you wanna complimentary consultation click here. We may want simple. Change called it a fifteen minute. Retirement income strategy session. It was a game changer. Because by called fifteen minutes strategy session who doesn't want fifteen minutes retirement income strategy session. They're already interested in retirement. They they requested our book so yeah it was no intimidation by requesting that and essentially when once get him on the phone call There you know unless there's anything standing in their waiter coming in said a leading and they're going to become clients for the most right right. What what have been some of the biggest learnings that you've had since hiring virtual assistants to help and you know through this whole process because there is a there's a lot of heavy lifting in making those girls there's a lot of conversations that have to be. Had you gotta chase people from time to time. What has been your biggest learning. I think Just watching the way to your staff and your team works. And what i mean by that is is when i went through orientation call finally took me about two to three reschedules but i finally did it when i did it. They actually went through. Kpi's in what do i want my kpi's be in. How many phone calls won't virtual assistant to make how many appointment so expect person to make western maximum valued. They can add to the company and really. I wouldn't have really thought about those particular questions. Because i never really obviously hired anybody even staying nevertheless out of the country right. So what that next sort of forced me to think of my company in in a structured way in hold them to that particular standard. And i'll tell you took that and actually brought it to my internal staff as well. Because i really didn't have kpi's i wouldn't know how to tell them if they're winning or losing. Because i didn't really have that down And also realized that. I was very ignorant to be honest which i had no idea that in the philippines they pretty much have the same holidays. We had so it was to meet in culture. It was it was a learning curve real last minute. Wasn't that big of a learning curve. But i thought it would be a bigger learning curve. I allowed limiting beliefs. I mean i thought that the language barrier would be a huge hindrance on performance in. I'll tell you. I have one person on. My team doesn't speak english at all almost in higher. But i ended up hiring her because he headed heart. She had heart. She had passionate in when she started out. Performance the other person It kind of goes back and forth now. But i was very surprised. It really a really realized that language barrier wasn't a big deal because you got to keep in mind in the financial industry. That was a huge limiting belief because we're managing billions of dollars people turning over their portfolio. Too so you know. If someone calls with a language barrier we automatically assumed that they're gonna look at us in a negative way. But it's but i've gotten compliments i mean it's actually not been a bad thing so for me i had to learn is not really what i had to learn what i had to unlearn limiting beliefs. That were ever in my head. Yeah i love it you. You got a copy of of the book we. We made sure you had that We're going to give it away to everybody's listening right. Now we give it for free to our clients and and we we. We find as a guide. But i'm curious as you went through it. What were some of the big takeaways that you you found from from the book saw a lotta myself in you. You talked about how you were at your. What your honeymoon. Yes you were in you. Were working on one of the people at the at the bar said. What are you doing work in your in your honeymoon. Yeah in it really resonated with me. Because i'm a new father. I mean i have a two year old and but one the biggest things said also learned. Is you talk a little bit about in the philippines. I didn't realize how their their commute be multiple hours. Yes oh you know. Obviously if they get an opportunity to work from home it's a benefit benefits for them in multiple ways and Just some of the different things you can do like i said i knew about one of the sales person so to speak inside sales agent. But i didn't think about some of the other ways. Use virtual assistance such as market an or such as you know administration were on but the biggest thing that got out of this once. I got up and rolling Someone from the philippines as a virtual assistant in sprained my limits. Because of i can manage something through a voice over ip a totally different country. It really challenged me to be better internally. But what i'm doing in my particular office. I can have someone in a different state to be sales adviser about can have someone in a different country making sales calls. I mean so just just really just spray it. My mind in gave me the inclination of what's possible. I love it one of the challenges in our industry. And and i'm i identify as a finance guy. Because i went to sac state and i got a finance degree and i and so i have a finance degree. That's awesome. yeah well. I do. And and but i i liked you. It wasn't where i landed. Because i like people right. So we're in the people business but one of the challenges in in that finance world is you know the licensing roles and we've had multiple conversation with financial advisers licensed folks you know whether it's a series seven or sixty three. What would you tell somebody who is concerned about you. Know keep in the licensing rules and laws with hiring a virtual system. All right so you got. You got multiple worlds. When it comes to become a financial adviser do have a series seven world with the broker dealer world and ed broker-dealer world is very limited. Now it is. I mean there's a compliant. Not even sort of compliance. There's always big brother is always watching. They don't want you to run your business. They want they want to run your business for you and they wanna control you And you don't have a voice. I mean there are some worlds. You're not allowed to have a podcast. We're not allowed to do a radio. Show the best advice. i can give you number one. If you have a good broker dealer you can have a conversation. You can communicate with the broker dealer. You can let that person not you're not doing any sales activity you're not talking about any stocks or bonds or trade in this trade in that you're simply just cold call in trying to get a person to set an appointment a lot of times. They will understand that. But if you really want my best advice. If i were to be candidate yeah it to become an independent advisor you can actually market yourself. You don't need your series seven. You need a registered investment advisory. I dropped my seven. I came from a big financial firm. Because i wanted to have a voice. I wanted to get out there and do seminars. i wanna do radio shows. I won't to get out there and do things like higher virtual assistance without the big brother watching me so i'll tell you the year. Did i drop my broker dealer. And i became a registered investment fiduciary adviser my income. Actually double because of what. I can actually do now and i wasn't allowed to do so before you if you really want to candid feedback. That's probably the best advice. I can give an advisor out there. I love that okay. So let's break down your step by step process. 'cause we do generate business differently than your peers in the industry. You know most financial advisors it's relationship building you know it's referrals. The cpa gives you a referral and ernie and all that call and knocking on doors has died at all. Yeah and what i will tell you is Would that does initial stages biel's character but eventually you have to realize that you're not leveraging your time you're not leveraging your energy your so much more than you could do me your You're worth so much more than making cole calls all day so eventually attraction marketing is something that has to take take place in also getting help with that converging where you're not doing all of your converging where comes into play his well so just to let you know financial adviser advisory firms. We're we're like dinosaurs. I don't adopt any of these things that we're talking about doing. What i was smart than enough to do is realize that the financial advisory world was not gonna take me to the next level so i began to look at what who who's doing his right. Who's actually contacting people right. And what i found. Is that the real estate world. Which a lot of you are probably involved with as well as the car. Sales were actually. They do follow up really really well. We don't as financial adviser. So i went on a long journey to find out. What is the real estate world that we're not doing as financial advisers and follow was key. I mean real time follow up calling it individuals soon as we get that we we waste so many leads and that's really how i came across. buyout desk. Yeah because i noted primarily you worked in the real estate industry in And i i know. I'm not in the real estate industry but i believe that you all can help me. That's right. and you all customize some things just for me financial advisory world and and. That's really what i'm doing. Well right now is just a follow up. So from attraction market standpoint. How can i say something one time and having carrio room multiple outlets in do market in multiple times up one simple three minutes how can create a blog out of that. How can i create a book of insult from the house. Create a podcast. How can i create content in essentially. That's what we do we attract people and when they come to me. We're already credible. They already know us so all we have to do is essentially just talked to him. Essentially become clients eventually. Yep what are some of the challenges that you've experienced so far with using my out dusk and been some of the more difficult. I just want people to know what they're getting into. I'm one of those weird sales guys right. Wants you to know. The whole enchilada before you buy so. I'll tell you what i slack. And i'd say i because really i'm responsible for for my lack in this particular area if you really want to have good not just virtual team but just any team. Communication is key Maybe daily meetings are geen after long. Maybe ten or fifteen minutes to get that person on the same pace. Didn't it since some time. Aside every week to talk about key performance indicators to do role play to do training. those things are key. And i'll tell you fall short on that a lot of times in. What i've done is a really appointed somebody else in my office to sort of be the quote unquote manager. Do a lot of these meetings. Because when it was up to me i would set a meeting. Something will come. A counselor is not very. It's not a lot of integrity doing that. Now tell you when you you're not training. I notice that our number started to slip a lot when we went back to doing these role. Plays you know quite. Ironically the numbers pick back up so you need to make sure that when you hire anybody especially a virtual assistant is not right there in your face. We gotta make sure that we're say no time to train to develop to teach your your wasted to be quite frank. Yeah i love that. One of the things that we do on a consistent basis is just video calls when the one that doing right now we just do a video call and there's training and reviews. Sometimes i'll pull calls and listen in fact i've a sales guy right now that i'm i've got listened to his call and and help them win and i think a lot of folks especially when we're entrepreneurs and we're building businesses and training other people. It's not the funnest job right. It's not the thing that you love to me. New people interacting so you're spot on with communication. What about now. Also say also say you know. There's a thin line between being a micromanager. Totally advocate out again. And what i mean by that is you. Don't have the check in with them. Every fifteen minutes or anything right that they know their kpi's notre kpi's in what they're supposed to do. They're going to do it but at the same time. Don't fall into the trap. That i fell into they start doing a great job for a long time. And i say oh. I don't need to check in with them. They're doing pretty good. I don't check in with them. In the benchley get upset because a number store dropping numbers dropped because i draw. Is you have to inspect what you expect. No my oh my yeah. I love it man. That's good what What systems do you have to set up in order to make this work to have a ver- drake team so this is not necessary. But i'll tell you what we did. Because i wanted to leverage the virtual virtual team so initially. When i first started basically every league went to a virtual assistant. Yeah and they were doing a great job. They were standing appointments. But here's the problem. They were setting appointments. But a lot of those people were not qualified. Because i really didn't prequalified those individuals. Now there's two ways you can do this. You could train your virtual professionals to prequalify or you can have a system to prequalify before it. Even goes to your herschel professionals. And that's what we decided to do. So we use infusion saw. yeah and what. We didn't infuse this office. We create way forms in order for somebody to sign up and give away a free book. I have two free books. One book is caught retire early. The nine critical decisions when retiring early before sixty five in another book. I have is called mistake. Free retirement. so we'll actually give away as a lead magnate those book before. They can actually get their book. They have to give us our phone number or address their email. Do they have over a certain amount in assets. Yes or no certain age. Yes or no so what we do as if they answer satisfactory for those particular questions. Yes yes than that lead goes to the virtual professional. Everybody else just goes into my loan term nurturing drip cyst and what that has done is that when we get those appointments set fifteen minutes strategy review sessions called up for those virtual professionals. We noted it's a qualified person. All ready right. They don't have to spend our time prequalified and you also gotta think about this. Every single call they make is a quality call because of quality person right when it comes to us. We know that we've set a meeting with a quality person. And i'll tell you since i've been doing that Daniel our average case is last year. Used to be three twenty five. We've been doing this now for about three hundred twenty thousand. We've been doing this for about four months now. Our average case is has increased to about eight hundred and fifty thousand. Because we're only dealing with people that we've already prequalified. We know how many assets they have already and you get paid as a percent. I mean you get paid the assets under management so this is a direct reflection of three x of your revenue since last year thing were three x you got to think about. This is just like you know if you're still in real estate building for eight hundred thousand versus one hundred thousand. You might do the same work. But the commission is a lot bigger on at eight hundred thousand dollar home. Same thing with us we get a bigger client. The problems are the same in. And i'll tell you this surprisingly enough on the bigger accounts or are a lot lower maintenance. Yeah a smaller. Council is a no brainer. The problem was is. How do we actually filter the qualified people without wasting hours and hours of our time and now that we filter people throughout their process How do we spend the time with those particular people more. And i love that. I love that well because it would be like saying you know. We want new clients but not asking people if they own a business and needed talent. You know you gotta know your basics that well we're going to wrap up marvin but you you definitely have built something special. I love what you're doing. I believe that you're gonna you're gonna be past the five million dollar mark this year. Which has an incredible growth. What advice would you give to other financial advisers out there who are considering the the hiring virtual assistants for their business. What first thing say is that. Perfection is the enemy of being great. You're not going to be perfect. It does take time. I mean we in financial advisory where we all want immediate satisfaction. But i'll tell you media satisfaction will keep you yearn for media satisfaction at some point. You need to build systems. You need to build structures that are gonna take you out of the equation My advice would be just like nike. Just do it for swimmers that can happen. You have to tweak it along the way you don't bail until it's over right you just keep tweaking. You're doing you feel your tweet. You're doing you feel your tweet. You're doing feel your tweet and that's how you learn so my deal will be to go home or stay scenario you lose a little money. Guess what the education will be worse. We spent more than that on on a bachelor's degree and we didn't learn anything you. So that's my vice. I love it. What do you What's what do you believe. The return on investment has been. I mean you pay you know this year. Seventeen forty-seven month that's what you spend. So it's a little bit more than four hundred dollars a week for each person. What what do you believe your return on. Investment will i'll give you an example Really quick so literally right before this. This this webinar. Yeah i was just meeting with a client. Russian particular client wasn't a client was actually a new prospect. Just became a client so this person was said by virtual professionals of fifteen minute appointment We called a person we would've never got in touch with that person headed not in for the virtual professional setting in particular appointment just closed at case about what half hour ago right before the call. Yeah what that will pay me to give you an example on that two million dollars. It's gonna pay me a revenue of about forty three thousand dollars. I you think about that. I pay about twenty one thousand dollars per year. Four virtual assistant we have to so basically at one client just pay for both virtual assistance for the rest of the year for the rest of the year. And we've been in now for about what three months now they're paying for so everything else is icing on a cake. So we'll probably. I can't even tell you. What are our allies. Gonna be toward the end of the year because it's gonna keep building momentum as the year goes along but it's definitely going to be more than about twenty. You think stops financial advisers from doing this because you are definitely a pioneer. You're definitely at the cutting edge of what's new in the business having infusion soft creating content to attract business rather than chasing business and hiring virtual assistants to help in your sales funnel. That's those are three massive things that most financial advisers just have never wrap their brains around. Well i'll tell you wh- what helped me back. I mean granted. I know. I sound like this innovative pioneer. But i'm just as afraid of everybody. Is everybody else right. So yeah some of my biggest stumbling blocks in higher in a virtual professional especially from Estimate philippines's i was afraid of the language barrier. Yup to be quite candid with you. You know we have people invested millions of dollars. So what are they going to say when the air someone with a foreign voice on the phone or they're gonna take us serious with actually minimize us. another thing that i had was just gives me to more people to manage. I don't wanna be a manager you know. All of those things came into play. Really how do i even keep a birch. Were professional busy. Biggest thing that holds us back. Do we wanna pay somebody fulltime because even enough work to go around. I'm sure you've heard all these things before daniel. I'm not telling you anything new in. What i've found is really all of those things were just limiting beliefs. Ever in my head once. I actually got started. Not only do people not care as much about the language barrier but believe me. They work a lot harder than some people locally. So so they're going gonna be on a bones and even they don't have the best Accent guess what. They're going to work hard and they're going to overcome with Work i was very surprised by that was one of my surprise. It also to work from a standpoint of will. I have enough work for them. Absolutely i'm almost thinking about bringing somebody else because i'm thinking of more things that can get done. It really opened up my world. That i can actually have a person a different country working surely i can have someone local or in a different state as a sales professional working without me being there every day so right now is actually expanded my mind to the point right now on local within the next three years we will be a national is giving me that insight and also you know his. Help me manage my voice over ip system. I know now know how to manage my own employees better. Because i know how to do key performance indicators which i didn't really do that beforehand but his really helped me with their system in their structure so organized a train or professional so whale israeli carried over into my day to day activities on my particular job. I love it okay. So if somebody wanted to jail you just do it. How other if somebody wanted to get a hold of you marvin and pick your brain and toggles you a little bit. How would they. Yeah you can actually reach me on if you go to my website which is www dot com post retirement. Solutions dot com. You can actually get in touch with me. Feel the contact us form. We would love to talk. I'm always open to talking to other entrepreneurs. We also have a book as i mentioned a retire early which is the ni- critical decisions. When retiring before sixty five you can actually go look at some of my views. Just case you're curious and actually request a copy of that book for free complimentary. You simply just go to box to now dot com slash retirement fox the number two now. In oh w dot com slash retirement. And you'll actually be able to access some of my interviews as well as my copy of my free book. Will i love it man. Well once again. I really appreciate you being here If if you're listening i would take. Marvin's advice and just do it. We offer free consultation where we just make sure your fit for hiring virtual assistants talk about your systems and process. Look at your org chart and really help you kind of codify in your brain and in your business what you would. You'd really need to hire somebody and be successful. We like our clients when they're happy like marvin is because great clients mean lots of referrals and growth and clients have a bad experience. Well those those companies are out of business. Now you know so definitely grab Grab one of our consultations. You can do so by getting a copy of our free book and marvin. You should check this out so if you want a copy of our book you can text. Svp so scale with virtual professionals s. as in sam v. as in victor p. As in paul the three one nine nine six. And you'll get a copy of free electronic book and you can get a consultation right after that if you wanted it and basically the book is thirteen years of my life poured into love all the charts everything you need for successful implementation of virtual systems how you grow and scale your business. So also yeah. Thank you for being here. Really appreciate you and i love your line. Just do it. Hey thank you. Dan you appreciate.

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95 Berenice by Edgar Allan Poe

Short Storiess Podcast

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95 Berenice by Edgar Allan Poe

"Welcome to short stories a production of adventures in audio dot net. I'm Robert brand. And I hope you are well. Valentine's Day is almost here and I meant have this episode publish before now. But every time I put my headphones on and opened the mic. My head started pounding and knows started sniffling in the body started aching. So but we're all better now. And I'm glad to be here with you. I had an idea for Valentine's Day L share with you, not maybe too late time get this, but decided can also be used for other occasions. And, and that is that, oh, like an audio greeting card kind of thing. As you know, we have our poem cast, which by the way, the poems are free. I haven't converted all of them to free at, but there are couple, and I will get to the others real soon and more poems will be on the way. And I hope you enjoy them. My, my idea was this. If you would like a personal like greeting at the beginning of one of the poems that I've already produced. Happy to do that for only five dollars. It would read something like this poem prepared, especially for, and then your name, disfie- dollars, most people in my business of voice overs and so forth, charged fifty just as a minimum just to set up and do it, but that's for commercial work too. So and if you have a poem you'd like me to produce for you. Well, it'll be a little bit more, but we'll talk, and it'll be affordable by promise, and so that's an idea badly, you know, he could do it for Valentine's Day if by get this published in. And if not other occasions and, and so forth. So that's available for you. And I'm feeling better. Now, I hope I don't sound like I I'm sick like on our. The story of this episode may sound their way because I had the record. It even though it wasn't feeling well I was sick last year to about this time and, you know, I had gone about five years without ever being sick and then last year and say this year sick. Euro, I some knife aound kind of worked that helped I drink auto orange juice, and grapefruit juice. And then one day I just decided to eat an orange in just. I felt great. I felt are much improved. Maybe there's nutrients in the actual fruit that is not in the juice. I Don not up on those, maybe I should listen to a health podcast instead of trying to turn this one into one, but anyway, that did seem to help so anyhow, like I say, I, I hope you are well, and I hope you enjoy our, our show today. You know. I as you know, we've been from time to time reading nightmares sent in by listeners, and we have had some. Pretty pretty good pretty horrible and frightening dreams and, and to those of you sentiment. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, and your welcome descend, yours in all you have to send it to my horrible dream at g mail dot com and read it on, on the show and I brings to mind something. I couldn't believe this. I had a dream recently that although was not a horror kind of dream. Your was troubling just the same is headed dream that I stole something from someone. Now I am not a thief, and would not steal anything. So it was upsetting that I had this dream. Even though in the dream, I returned the item it was, you know. Dream gets get strange. But then I had a dreadful ghastly thought. That entered my mind. What if? I had a dream that I murdered someone. That was a chilling and frightful thought I couldn't believe it entered my mind. So what if you? Dram- day you violent. Stabbed someone to death. The victim screaming. Wow. Here's C cries of agony and horror. Keep stabbing. Right. Blood's, battering everywhere in your face and on your clothes. You can't stop savage. When suddenly. You wake up trembling. Find a dagger in your hand. The blade covered with blood in your clothes soak with the red fluid of life. And a knock on the door. What have you been smoking? In our feature story a similar event occur. A man falls in love with his cuss. And obsessive over her, especially her teeth. I hope you enjoy Baroness by Edgar Allen. The Bill may he so dacas. See sepulchre. I'm achieve is Tara. Get us 'Maisanta quantum foray love Batas. Evan cya. Misery is manifold. The wretchedness of earth is multiform over reaching the wide horizon as the rainbow it's Hughes are various as the Hughes of that are as distinct to yet as intimately blended over reaching the wide horizon as the rain though. How is it that from beauty? I have derived a type of unlovely nece from the covenant of peace, a simile of sorrow, but as an ethics evil is a consequence of good. So if backed out of joy is sorrow borne either the memory of past bliss is the anguish out today or the agonies were jar. Have their origin in the ecstasy's, which might have been my bad. Tis Mwale name is a Jesus that of my family. I will not mention yet there are no towers than the land more time honored than my gloomy grey, hereditary halls our line is been called a race of visionaries in many striking particulars in the character. The family mentioned in the frescoes of the chief saloon in the tapestries of the dormitories in the chiseling of some buttresses in the armory, but more, especially in the gallery of antique paintings in the fashion of the library chamber and lastly in the very peculiar nature of the library's contents. There is more than sufficient evidence. The warrant the belief. The recollection sub my earliest ears are connected with that chamber, and with its volumes of which ladder. I will say, no more here died. My mother herein was I born, but it is mere idleness to say that I had not lived before that the soul has no previous existence. You deny, let us not argue the matter convinced the myself, I seek not to convince there is, however, a remembrance of aerial forms of spiritual. And meaning is of sounds musical, yet, sad, a remembrance, which will not be excluded a memory like a shadow. They variable indefinite unsteady in like a shadow to in. In the impossibility of my getting rid of it, while the sun white of my reason, shall exist in that chamber. I was born thus awakening from the long night of what steamed but was not nonentity at once into the very regions of fairyland into a palace of imagination into the wild, dominions, monastic thought and era dishing. It is not singular that I gazed around me what they startled an ardent I that I loitered away my boyhood in books in dissipated my youth in reverie, but it is singular that has years rolled away in the noon of manhood found me still in the mansion of my fathers. It is wonderful. What stagnation there fell upon the springs of my life, wonderful? How total inversion took place in the charac-. Her of my communist thought the realities of the world affected me as visions. And as visions only while the wild ideas of the land of dreams became in turn, not the material of my everyday existence. But in very deed, that existence utterly in- solely in itself Baroness, and I were cousins, and we grew up together in my paternal halls, yet, differently we grew I all of health in buried in gloom. She agile graceful and overflowing with energy hers, the ramble on the hillside mind, the studies of the Kleist her, I living, but then my own heart and addicted body, and soul to the most intense and painful meditation. She roaming carelessly. Through life with no thought of the shadows in her path or the silent flight of the raven. Winged hours, Baroness I call upon her name bearer niece in from the gray, ruins of memory of thousand tumultuous recollections are startled at the sound vividly as her image before me now is in the early days of her lightheartedness enjoy. Oh, gorgeous yet. Fantastic. Beauty, oh, self amid the shrubberies of aren't Heim of nee damone. It's fountains, and then, then all his mystery and terror it had tail which should not be told disease, a fatal disease fell like this Emounim upon her frame in even while I gazed upon her the spirit of change swept over her pervading her mind. And her habits and her character. And in a manner, the most subtle and terrible disturbing even the identity of her person alas the destroyer came and went in the victim. Where is she I knew her not or new her no longer as Baroness among the numerous train melodies, super induced, by that fatal in primary one which affected a revolution of so horrible kind in the moral and physical being my cousin may be mentioned as the most distressing and obstinate in its nature a species of epilepsy. Not unfrequently terminated in trance itself, trance berry, nearly resembling positive solution, and from, which her manner of recovery was in most instances, startling -ly a. In the meantime, my own disease for I have been told that I should call it by no other Appalachian, my own disease in grew rapidly upon me in assumed finally, a mono maniac character of novel and extraordinary form hourly in momentarily gaining vigor that might obtaining over me, the most incomprehensible ascendancy this monomania, if I must so term it consisted in a morbid, irritability of those properties of the mind in metaphysical science termed, the attentive, it is more than probable, that I am not understood, but I fear indeed that it is in no manner possible to convey to the mind of the merely general reader, and adequate idea of that nervous intensity of interest with which in my case, the powers. Omitted tation. Not to speak, technically busied and buried themselves in the contemplation of even the most ordinary objects of the universe to muse for long on wearied hours. But my attention riveted to some frivolous device on the margin or in the typography of a book to become absorbed for the better part of a summer's day in the quaint shadow following a slant upon the tapestry, or on the floor to lose myself or an entire night in watching the steady flame of lamb, or the embers of a fire the dream away, whole days over the perfume of our, to repeat monotonously some common word until the sound by dint of frequent repetition cease to convey any idea, whatever to the mine to lose all sense of motion, or physical. Existence by means of absolute bodily que-, essence long and obstinately persevered in such were a few of the most common en- least pernicious beggary induced by a condition of the medal faculties not indeed altogether unparalleled, but certainly bidding defiance to anything like analysis or explanation yet. Let me not be miss apprehended, the undo earnest and morbid attention thus excited by objects in their own nature. Frivolous, must not be confounded in character with that ruminating propensity common to all mankind and more, especially indulged in by persons of ardent imagination. It was not even as might be at I supposed, an extreme condition or exaggeration of such pro. Density, but primarily an essentially, distinct and different in the one instance, the dreamer or enthusiasts being interested by an object, usually not frivolous. Imperceptibly loses sight of this object in a wilderness of deductions and suggestions. Issuing there from until the conclusion of a daydream often replete with luxury. He finds the insight Menton, or I cause of his musings, entirely vanished, and forgotten in my case, the primary object was invariably frivolous. Although assuming through the medium of my distemper vision a refracted in unreal. Importance few deductions if any were made and those few pertinent issues Lee returning in upon the original object as a center, the meditations were never pleasurable and at the terminate. Of the reverie the purse 'cause so far from being out of sight, had attained that supernatural the exaggerated interest, which was the prevailing feature of the disease in a word the powers of mine. More. Particularly exercised were with me as I have said before the attentive, and our with the Daydreamer the speculative my books at this, epoch, if they did not actually serve to irritate, the disorder partook. It will be perceived largely in their imaginative in inconsequential nature of the characteristic qualities of the disorder itself. I well, remember among others. The treatise of the noble Italian called the Kundus Carrio day on pollutant a beyond day, Regmi day, Saint Agustin's great word, the city of God. And tur- Telliance Deconda Chris day, in which the paradoxical sentence, more DSS today, Philias, gray, deeply s Etem s at support threat, sir exit Certa mass. PA impo Cibelli s occupied my undivided time for many weeks of laborious in fruitless investigation, thus it will appear that shaken from its balance only by trivial things. My reason bore resemblance to that ocean crags spoken by Ptolemy has specimen, which steadily resisting the attacks human violence in the fiercer fury of the waters, and the winds trembled, only to the touch of the flower called s Fidel, and although to a careless thinker it might appear a matter beyond doubt that the alteration produced. By her unhappy malady in the moral condition of Baroness would afford me many objects for the exercise of that intense and abnormal meditation, whose nature I have been at some trouble in explaining yet, such was not in any degree, the case in the lucid intervals of my infirmity her calamity, indeed gave me pain and taking deeply to heart that total wreck of her fair and gentle life. I did not fail to Pounder frequently and bitterly upon the wonder working means by which so stranger revolution had been. So suddenly brought to pass, but these reflections, partook not of the Ideo secrecy of my disease and were set as would have occurred under similar circumstances to the ordinary mass of mankind to, to its own character. My disorder. Revelled in the less important, but more startling changes wrought in the physical frame of Baroness in the singular, and most appalling distortion of her personal identity during the brightest days of her unparalleled, beauty, most surely, I had never loved her in the strange anomaly of my existence feelings with me, had never been of the heart, and my passions always were of the mind through the gray of the early morning. Among the trellis, shadows of the forest at noon day, and in the silence of my library at night, she had flitted by my eyes, and I had not seen her not as the living in the breathing Baroness, but as the bear niece of a dream, not as a being of the earth earthy, but has the ABC. Strack shin of such a being not as a thing to admire, but to analyze not as an object of love, but as the theme of the most obtrusive, although Dessel Tori, speculation. And now I shuddered at her presence and group hail that her approach, yet bitterly lamenting her fallen, desolate condition. I called to mind that she had loved me long and intern evil moment, I spoke to her of marriage and linked the period of our naturals was approaching when upon an afternoon in the winter of the year, one of those unseasonably warm calm in misty days, which are the nurse. So the beautiful house Seon I sat in Sata's, I thought alone in the inner apartment of the live. Gary, but up, lifting my eyes, I saw the Baroness stood before me was it my own excited imagination, or the misty influence of the atmosphere or the uncertain twilight of the chamber or the gray draperies, which fell around her figure that caused in it? So vacillating and indistinct and outline, I could not tell she spoke, no word. And I not for words could have uttered a syllable, and icy chill ran through my frame, a sense of insufferable anxiety. Oppressed me, a consuming curiosity, pervaded my soul in sinking back, upon the chair. I remained for some time breathless and motionless with my eyes riveted upon her person alas. It's a may. She Asian was excessive and not. One vestige of the former being work in any single mine of the contour my burning glances at my fell upon the face. The forehead was high and very pale in. Singularly placid, the once Jedi hair fell partially over and over shadowed, the hollow temples with innumerable, ringlets, now, a vivid yellow in jarring discordant in their fantastic character with the reigning melancholy of the continents. The eyes were lifeless and luster Lous in seemingly pupils in ice rank in voluntarily from there glassy stare to the contemplation of the thin in shrunken lips, they parted in a smile, a peculiar, meaning that piece of the change to bare knees. Disclosed themselves, slowly to my view would to God, that I had never beheld them or that having done. So I had died the shutting of a door. Disturbed me and looking up. I found that my cousin had departed from the chamber, but from the disordered chamber of my brain had not a last departed and would not be driven away, the white, and ghastly, spectrum of teeth, not a speck on their surface. Not a shade on their animal, not at indenture in their edges. But what that period of her smile had sufficed to brand in pawn my memory. I saw them now even more equivocally than I had beheld them in the teeth the teeth, they were here, and there and everywhere, invisibly Palpa. Ably before me, long narrow and excessively white with the pale lips. Writhing about them as in the very moment of their first terrible development, then came the full fury of my Munnell mania, and I struggled in vain against it strange irresistible influence in the multiplied objects of the external world. I had no thoughts. But for the teeth for these long with they frenzied desire, all other matters, and all different interests became absorbed in their single contemplation. They, they alone were present to the mental I and they and their soul individuality became the essence of my mental life. I held them in every light I turned him in every attitude, I surveyed their characteristics. I dwelt upon their peculiarities I pondered oppose. On their confirmation. I mused upon the alteration in their nature. I shuddered as I assigned to them in a mentioned nation, a sensitive incendiary power. And even when unassisted by the lips a capability of moral expression of Mademoiselle, sow that has been well, said Kay to say Pau Tae day, so mall and Baroness I more seriously believe Kate to say it's a stunt Tate e day that day here was he Eddie attic, thought that the strode me day day, therefore it was that I covered them. So madly I felt that their possession could alone ever restore me to peace in giving me back to reason, and the evening closed in upon me thus. And then the darkness came and Terry and win. And the day. Again, dawn in the midst of a second night were now gathering around and still, I sat motionless in that solitary room and still, I set buried in meditation and still the Fantasma of the teeth maintained, it's terrible ascendancy, as with the most vivid hideous distinctness, if floated about amid the changing lights and shadows of the chamber at length there broke in upon my dreams, they cry as of horror and dismay. And there unto after a pause succeeded the sound of troubled voices intermingled with many low moaning of sorrow or pain. I arose from my seat, and throwing open one of the doors of the library sauce, standing out in the antechamber a servant, maiden all in tears, who. Told me that Barra niece was no more. She had been seized with epilepsy in the early morning. And now at the closing in the night, the grave was ready for its ten and all the preparations for the Barrio were completed. I found myself sitting in the library and against sitting there alone. It seemed that I had newly awakened from a confused, and exciting dream. I knew that it was now midnight. And I was well aware that since the setting of a son baronies had been interred, but of that dreary period, which intervened, I had no positive. At least no definite comprehension yet. It's memory was replete with horror horror, more horrible from being vague at terror more terrible from ambiguity. It was a fearful page in the record of my assistance, redden all over with dim and hideous. And unintelligible recollections a strive to decipher them. But in vain. Well, ever an on, like the spirit of a departed sound, the shrill, and piercing shriek of a female voice seemed to be ringing in my ears. I had done a deed. What was it? I asked myself the question aloud and the whispering echos of the chamber answered me. What was it on the table beside me, burned a lamp and near it lay a little box it was of no remarkable character. And I had seen it frequently before for it was the property of the family physician. But how came at their upon my table in. Why did I shudder in regarding these things were in no manner to be accounted for? And my is it linked drop to the open pages of a book and to a sentence, underscored. They're in the words were the singular, but simple ones of the poet Evans. Zyeya. DJ. Bont me he Silas, c suppo- Croom. I'm K visit Tara KIRO Smith's Ali quantum for a Levada. Why then is I proves them? Did the hairs of my head erectile selves, on end and the blood of my body? Become congealed within my veins. There came a white tap on the library door and pale as the tenant of a tomb a meal entered upon tiptoe his looks were wild with terror. And they spoke to me at a voice, tremolos husky and very low. What city some broken sentences? I heard he told of a wild cry disturbing the silence of the night of the gathering together of the household of a search in the direction of the sound and then his tone, screw thrilling distinct as he whispered me of a violated, grave of a disfigured body enshrouded yet. Still breathing. Still bell potatoing still alive. He Poitou garments that were muddy and clotted with gore. I spoke not. And he took me gently by the hand. It was in dented with the impress of human nails. He directed my tension to some object against the wall. I looked at it for some minutes. It was a Spade with a shriek I bounded to the table and grass the box that lay upon it, but I could not force it open, and it might tremor. It's lit from my hands and fell heavily and burst into pieces. 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Ep 61: Real Housewives of CVS with Carey O'Donnell

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Ep 61: Real Housewives of CVS with Carey O'Donnell

"Hey everyone. Welcome to another week of june. Thanks just bonnet the podcast. We talk about what we just bought. And what you might need to my next. I'm your host caroline moss. This week's guest is funny guy. Tv writer and co host of one of my favorite podcasts. Sexy unique podcasts. Up with larmer. Shane hall carry. Donal thinks for me to be with you again. I'm so happy. I was thinking of like unfortunately like one of the only times we've ever like had like extended hang where we like to remember. We like walk. Yeah we have a good friend moment. We like walked from an hadn't gotten my walk over the bridge and it was cold and we were like. Wow this is new york. We had like a latin name. Oh man it was like it was like an early november. Kinda like ooh but like not like bricks. You could like be. Yeah it was it was it was like one of my like nice new york deal and then we ran into each other in times square. Like one time we're like. I think you were waiting for your husband or so. I was waiting for a friend who came into town. And we're gonna get like a classic new york slice like at the sahara. Like michael and you were coming out of yahoo. I think probably. At that time. I when i worked my standard under mercer layer. It is marissa yes marissa. It is always funny to run into like a new york pal in times square. It feels like you've met up in like the yard. You're kind of look at me. I mean although i have to say i worked in times square for collective like two and a half years. They were then. I worked at logo which was also like right in the heart of right in the heart of things In the viacom building. And i feel like times square it. It does get a bad rap. It's not as it's not. It's terrible but it's not as bad as like i will say it. It's not as bad as the hollywood walk of fame. I was gonna say. I worked at thirty rock for like two years. So that's also like come christmas. That's the worst place in the world. Like i would take time square any day. Then swap it out with king and thirty rock in the christmas season where you're like just trying to get the subway and everyone's like standing around taking selfies with the trae. Yeah so i have had no big hollywood walk of fame experience only that. I've been to the trader joe's over there. Tell ya did a big shudder run through your body well okay. So i live full disclosure. I live a few blocks from the walk. The walk start kind of like. I walk out my door. Walk a few one or two blocks of being like mary. Steenburgen carrio donal like grauman's chinese theater in los angeles live. I live at the the walgreens and hollywood. Don't you remember that you are doing a sexy unique podcast event in hollywood like the first week dan and i moved here and i was like we're coming we're coming. We're coming into the last minute. I was like we're so tired i can't the house and you don't. We're gonna do this all the time and then we go. I know because we were doing. We were hosting these like once a month. Screenings of intertemporal place. That's now close tonight like soho house adjacent place in hollywood and then Yeah you're like. I'm and i was like i totally get it and then i was like we're gonna have all the time in and then and then we had our like fateful show at the roxy and on the sunset strip like the night that rita wilson. Tom hanks got for part of history. I think we were like the last show. Definitely one of the last show that at all and l. a. Which is fucking crazy. 'cause we were like this. I mean it was. The roxie was cool but like we were just like it wasn't like we're not seeing like major players. Say i want to say for those of you who don't smell sexy unique. Podcast lottery. Shane halls sort of venture started as a vanderpump rules. Recap and commentary and it is one of the funniest podcast ever and it. I and i love laura. We've we've never met. I love her work. I will say like one of the first times they listened to it. I was like this episode like two and a half hours. Like what are we talking about. But it was honestly the most fun two and a half hours. I laugh all the time but what. She does what she ended up doing. Was she sort of spun out her brand to do like rear watches of different bravo shows. And like you know. Going into real housewives and kerry and laura started doing what it like in twenty one thousand nine hundred. I yeah i like. I started coming on like a like. She's she would have guest. Host co come onto to recap like sexiest podcasts. Or to venables. And then i started coming on and then we just kind of vibe and they spun off and they started doing a rewatch lake kind of branch. Podcast called sexy unique podcast tough sicilian bitches which recapped the early seasons of real housewives of new jersey. Which is absolutely hands down my favorite television in the world. There's no way like you. You were like in our tax compost. I was like you your knowledge of that show is like peerless and i would say scholar of caroline. Manzo islam's jelly karen. I are are very much of new jersey house bill. We've seen seasons one through five especially. She's a big season six-person multiple times. I can quote it. I love. I could tell you like every i could i could verbatim repeat every single episode back to you. But the best part of listening to you guys recap it as a. I can see every single scene happening in my head but your impressions of the housewives are spot on. Yeah her good carolina do your do. You can't tell me that. Carolina carolina role is one of three point. Five we're having a good time and lockdown. It's all about family. Thank out my chickens. Have come back to the roost. All my chickens under one roof makes me really happy. I gotta say family. If you don't have family you don't got nothin' we listen to alto is a show that dan loves like we have a. We have and you know this. Because i'm always like danny and i are listening and like this. I'm very happy that like we've we've got some straight male straight male listenership. Because that means that i feel like i'm like puncturing the next ye dementia girls on the gays or down but like when you got that straight guy like i know what you're talking about i'm like okay. There is something here. yeah no no i think. It's you have such a great opportunity for diversity. Here like the dan le. Dan loves it. And one of my. And if you guys are not like if you're looking for a twenty twenty one activity. I cannot recommend more. It's on hulu. Go watch real housewives of new jersey and then pair it with the corresponding tough sicilian bitches. Podcast episode because it is like it is such. it's to move. I wish you guys would continue. I just i really you know and we were 'cause we're recapping salt lake city right now which which has been sort of like a up and down journey for me personally is the same but like it doesn't like new jersey. Those early seasons of new jersey. They were so non self aware of like the game and they didn't. I mean nate like they they they all had egos but like they hadn't. They weren't so aware of their brands yet. And i just feel like. I'm worried about the future of the franchise because now it all feels so like concocted ruining careful and concocted and like they're all playing into the characters that like the gays on twitter love and like they know and i just. I'm seeing danielle saab. Walk around with the bodyguard. Like you're not going to get that ever again like you're not going to get you're never gonna get caroline manzo going. We we fight big big and we make up big thick. It's like i don't know if you've watched dallas. I haven't but like it's on. Dallas has not infiltrated into my life. Yet and i started salt lake city. But i have to tell you. And i haven't been listening to you and lars recaps because i like to wait until i have done the whole season 'cause then it sort of feels like its own reunion episode. Had me and for those of you who have city like it literally starts like twenty minutes in one of them screaming at the other because one said the other smelled like hospital and i would say maybe one of the best of all time i like you. Can't you don't get better than now. Mary out the gate out. It was probably top five. I episodes even now stalwart franchises. Were all shitty in the first quarter. I mean they were all just getting role eggs but this was like. Wow it was like well. You told me smiling hospital and then someone who fucked grandfather you get that and there's like the mormon thing going like it was just so like this whole world that i've i'm so ignorant to have you found my opinion. My opinion is that that's a very high note to start on. And i fear for salt lake city that it is sort of like an interest in that like it is going to. It can hot if you start that high you know. There's only so many glass ceilings. You can break above you. Yeah i'm worried too. I mean the last episode of whitney brought it and she she kind of she brought back to like okay. Maybe there is hope. But i agree with you. I think it was like i almost like if you adjust giving me the first episode. I would've been happy. Yeah i just wanted people telling each other. They smell like hospital and like cult leaders and grandpa fuckers like. I do not get any more outrageous. Yeah now it's like too much brooks not enough. Mary not enough. You know too much winning dad to diane warren it's The entire first episode of salt lake city was as if you were watching one app. One full seat like the first full season. i think. that's maybe what it was like a little bit. It felt like kramden like weeks of shooting in one episode. It yeah but i was gonna say there is a character. There's a now she's gone because she was fired for her. You know fairly overt racism and lock in so leeann locking you kind of that name. She kind of had that daniel stop like chaos and then at the end. She was like repulsive with racism against mexican people. So like right at that point. You're like i can't even please get off my screen But she she is a social eight in dallas or now a fallen socialite in dallas. Who isn't rich but like moves in those circles and is able to get rich people to spend money on charities. She's like a real like operator and like is very social and everyone knows about her and she's bachelorette lanes. She's she's completely unhinged. And she grew up on a carnival. Like she's a carney. Which is the most one of the craziest backstories of i. Maybe the craziest backstory of any housewife is that she literally grew up on a carnival. No one has ever been able to convince me to dallas. But i think you just did it. It was. I mean the first two seasons were like it is. It's a pretty wild ride. Now she's gone and they brought in. I just there's now a new season and it's like during covid and some of them feel like there may be cova deniers but leeann is completely like she is so fascinating to watch in the first few seasons and then she crosses until like unforgivable territory but like in the like. Oh my god. It's wild. I would she. She brings the danielle energy. That like i mentioned that is that edge de danielle energy. I miss like we had. We had talked about a few things that we wanted to cover today. And i and i wanna make sure that like we can now will tack onto this. I wanna talk to you about this scenes. We were talking about sex. The sex and the city movie yesterday a little bit. Because dan and i went out for a drive and we were listening to old episode of tough sicilian bitches. Because it's like one of the things we can agree to listen to together and it's never it's always haunting to listen to the ones that are like Around this time last year. Where you guys i am so ready for twenty twenty. It's gonna be amazing ready for a new decade like the last was nuts. Like what could happen this decade and were psychic like predicted cova. Yes and we heard elving into leg curse territory. I feel like you guys like there's something happening and the top sicilian bitches universe that like predicted what we have seen unfold in our country last year or so But we. I was listening to you. Guys were talking about the iconic scene that lives personally in my head rent free of the sex and the city movie the new year's eve seen with carrie miranda and i was laughing because that scene i think is revered by like so many people like it's the song is so pretty the version of all blame sign that they pick so pretty. It's a nice moment of friendship but everyone kind of like forgets the way it starts. And so i kinda wanna bring want to bring that up because people will people know that seeing people love that scene people listen to that version of that song around years. Okay let's get into it. I think about the scene constantly We talk about kerry's yes learn. Okay well so she. She wakes up in the dead of night a k. Like it's like nine thirty depression. Louis see tried watching me means saint louis but turning three minutes is watching this her her assistant jennifer hudson tells her to watch or like. She's she's like. I'm going to try. And she just can't she's like the trolleys comes on and she's like fuck like then she she's asleep. It's snowing she's like fuck. I'm not. I'm not writing into two thousand and four thousand eight forever and miranda calls her and she wake carry weight she wakes. She's wearing what are you wearing like a like a silk loud like under a there was jewelry like jewish sabbath jewelry. Marrying a huge string of pearls which is like hazard has choking how to like sarah jessica. Parker i'm gonna wear these like when i feel like she was like that is like an actress choice moment where she was like. I think harry would do this for sure. Whatever she's like. I want to put my own little spin on kerry kerry and she's way. Psu wakes up the phone ringing of the phone giant. Phone her home phone. And then miranda we cut over to brooklyn right moran. Is eating here in the background. She's eating her low main and carry picks up a low and miranda's like up like i'm alone. I'm alone on new year's eve. And i'm eating chinese who i'm by myself and like i feel crazy and the first thing that carries says is sleeping like jerry can get it up for a friend no first of all. It's not that i'm calling. People are just going out in new york and miranda's like having she's been in a recent separation like give her a break. Yeah it'd be like oh hi like like hide. Your yawn i was sleeping is like i'm upset like i'm so upset and lonely and carries like i was sleeping like i'm sorry i let you go back. No no everything all right. Do you want me to come over. No no no no. It's fine really looking out the window at into the void and she her eyes are so and she's like this is a woman on the edge like she. That's right. I'm sorry i wrote right now and i just think it's crazy. We're in the new year's eve. And i'm around and it's like i heard my the tone and that boys and one of my best friends i'd be like getting the right carries like well carry. Does that thing where it's like. I definitely don't wanna come. But i guess i'll politely ask and say know them are in. It's like obviously because miranda's miranda she's like no it's okay it's fine. I'll just like student myself. Kerry hangs up and then she puts her hand back on her pillow and she's permanent and you just see her get up and then we cut to her running down her brown her fake eyebrows on. And she's in a full in a turban. She's got like sequin term on like from saint marks place while. I'm googling the lake. The cut of her exact. Yes she's she's. She's somehow both gotten dressed and not gotten dressed. She's wearing her her. Like flannel pajama pants. Her her little silky blouse and looking right. Now mink giant for pearls or white gloves and white wearing heeled boots. He's mang white boots and the snow. Okay so she. She's wearing white boots in the snow. She's wearing a huge mink. She's wearing her like like. I literally have that pajama outfit. Set from target. She's like sporting nap. But like with a pearl and then a sequined hat. That like looks deranged now. But if you try to imagine what you were wearing in two thousand eight like Yes i remember. And and then she's like she's like oh like taxi like new year's eve. I can't get a taxi. Does she take the new tax. What what's a like south brooklyn. I think they just show her coming up on. I don't know but she either takes a or the ass. Well no marina. Where's myrna gonna live in brooklyn are parks okay. So she takes the or she yeah yard chat subway subway well carry we alleged carry allegedly takes us way. But you only you're popping out of it so they're not really totally sure. That's the first time you ever see kerry take the subway or knowledge that exists. I don't think she in the entire series. Because i just watched it with my boyfriend recently and she. I don't think at once any of the six seasons does she take the subway now. The most probably the most other than her like finances her ability her like how like the most unrealistic thing about that show is that she not once takes us up way. Yeah i mean y- on a long list of along. I met sex in the city like sushi samba. She come up and she's snow. No snow has gotten harder. It's almost midnight like really really close counting. And then and then she climbs up pricey stairs of the of the of miranda's brownstone knocks on the door. Businesses memoranda opens it and then carry us. You're not allowed carrying to be the hero. Truly great you did. You were a bare minimum carrying. I was sleeping. i was sleep. Oh ended that you carry literally could never take a second stanford i met someone and carries extreme for fuck up. I don't wanna hear it up me right now standing having a crisis like we never right now. Speaking of sarah jessica parker i loved watching e. cover the coup in only a way that e could own which which was dramatic. Ap me off too. Because e there i've like unfollowed and followed them like they're so unhinged it's almost too much for me. Sometimes air their instagram like mockup images with quotes or like bear so insane like drought. All twenty. twenty. It was like we abomination took it to another level this is jolie on on my team message to me i and was like i can't tell if they're kidding and i looked at it and i was like this is a carrier. Donal tweet if i ever so. And it's literally like dramatic photos of the coup and then like italicized reactions from star so it was like how in god's name what in god's name jane lynch and they were bowled certain phrasings unspeakable unimaginable unamerican. And then one of them was ''chloe grace moretz saying this is not america and loved. ''chloe grace moretz making the cut agrees. Rats like ways in. This is not america khloe seven. I'm speechless chris. Pink was like as someone who's related to service people like i'm offended. Yeah like i kind of like to be a fly on the wall in the e slack. That was like Put something up i should. We should gone. Aren't you couldn't eat or not. Comment done it without the they. We have to report on this but we have to put our spending our. What's our spin like assistant or like intern was like. Why are we could just put quotes. Saints reacts to the kill how in god's name name shane lynch did you know that seventy percent of people say they want us natural products but then only two percent actually do. This happens because stores mostly lower shopping from only sell products from the biggest companies. Not the products. That are best for you and your home. If you're like yes that's me. Where can i find. More natural products than you have to check out grove collaborative. It's an marketplace that delivers natural home beauty and personal care products. Right to your door products. Like mrs myers. Seventh generation method and bird. Species are all part of the grow family and they have products of their own like seedling. Tree free paper towels which are so cool and grove laundry detergent dispenser that cuts plastic waste by up to eighty percent. 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They started putting together the packages that were like it started at two thirty on the capitol steps rallying you know what i mean like i was like okay so there now showing me a packaged segment. What i've already watched. So i'm like that was hor- i mean that was horrifying to watch. It was so confusing. I was trying to figure out who on social media. I'm following like who's reporting the right information and okay. Someone tweeted this but like is the caption cracked time. Was it being like sarah. Jessica parker says unthinkable and she wrote on honor instrument her like standard. Like paolo forum pros. I would read a book by her. Do not put that out. No i think she had. She had me crying last year in the fall. Maybe just because i was like this just shows my quarantine brain but like she posted something about new york and i started crying. I did. I got the most erba coup the cnn like now. They're doing what they're doing like retrospectives on something. That happened forty years ago. They were advertising for tomorrow. Ten trump's insurrection. You know and it's going to be like they're gonna have talking. Had probably the today anniversary of the storming ago. We might not even be done with the coast. Go into like cnn. Packaging and like it's just crazy have yet to see a story about how long those hotel reservations were made for like are we fin- like people gone home. Both i have to be really honest like at this point. I from watching the last cnn. Which i'm going to continue watching because it's obviously but from watching the way just the performative like you know. I wanted to be an actor. But i became a journalist kind of nature of like chris cuomo and don length lake. They're not much different than e no reporting on the the absurd almost camp levels of like. It's so it's there's really no at this point. Yeah it was. I was furious watching. Especially because you've worked in newsrooms before and i've worked in newsrooms before and like the amount of you know these twenty four seven news cycle talking heads like a cuomo of maddow chris hayes joe scarborough. Whatever the amount of people who were like. It's and we're and we're looking into why you know. The police were not on top of this the way they were like pretending like not saying what we all know. Which is that like. They're like they're teasing. Like where were the police. Were they tired. did they not know this one. There was one especially obnoxious moment. Watching the coverage where it was where someone was talking to a lawmaker representative. And i don't know who when i will look it up. But they were saying they were. It was horrible. It's a heartbreaking interview. She was like. I came to work today and i told my husband like this is where my will is. This is where you know if something happens today and whoever was doing this interview it was like. Did you have a permanent. It's almost you had a premonition. It's like they've been telling us they're coming like there wasn't like hand. Nancy grace was to elizabeth. Smart was like. Could you see with that that like thing on your head. Remember how that thing. And i'm actually here to talk about like a bill to protect like abused children in america. It's like i'm sorry sweetheart. I thought it would help the viewers to get a little insight into where you were in that head space. Oh my god. Nancy grace another culture ought to with that thing like i remember watching it and being like oh i watched that live. I was like holy shit. Am i seeing. What i'm seeing but like that kind of stuff. Almost remission almost like here clairvoyant you. You had a feeling that feeling came true. It is a what a day you know. Now we're in two thousand and twenty one just one week ago. People are saying well you know. It can't get any worse. I also who is saying that. I i was prepared for like we should have known better when people started treating twenty twenty like it was a person that was like for all this stuff. It's like that's when i knew. I mean i've done it too when you start acquainting a year giving it like person hood that's when you know going down for what kind of visit. Cvs often you. And i have send each other pictures where there's a little bit of like a blurry. Seven eleven logo in the background. Like what we're doing kind of like co krona virus. Kovic time shopper. Have you been like where. Where's your money. Been going okay. So i'm admittedly like addicted to cvs. Like i'm a habit you know. I'm in recovery. And i think it's one of my like habit. Addictions is going to like a pharmacy. I just there's something about it that just feels like especially in this time when my radius of leaving has been so small i really attached to like. There's a we work near me. That i get attached to just walking by the logo and the cbs. On hollywood walk of fame is just like my place. Okay so you see. I'm trying to be better about candy. But usually get mike's i got like. I should be getting going for bulk. But i go for daily like just instant fix but normally my quarantine stuff goes to like household cleaning stuff and like i love fabulous so multi-purpose with hydrogen peroxide that i get like huge leaders of those or whatever and i i am very because we're at me and simon just inside all the time everyone else so i just wanted to smell need everything to be clean. I know i i much cleaner yes. I've just been very into like wiping. Miss mrs myers love to thing yes white. Lots of mrs myers cleaning products candles. When i'm feeling you know wealthy in spirit. I'll go get a candle kindle and we hope which is a great place. I haven't been anywhere. I've been and that's it and we all are when things get better in la. Which is not going to be for awhile. You should i stopped after the vaccination like vita candle delirium now mostly like cleaning base and just things that make me feel. You're doing some nesting nesting very much messing stuff not really like foodstuff. More like domestic. Yeah let's let's make the house a home. Now tell me a little bit about your relationship with the my favorite islet cvs which is the as seen on tv. I'll do you fuck around with that. Not really what what would be. Oh my god like it's just like steph. that was probably on on like an episode of shark tank. That didn't air. Like that's the only way i can describe it. It's like doing you hate flipping burgers like isn't this thing. That's not really a problem for you like kind of album. Like here's a fix and six dollars which things yeah like. The snuggie would fall under that. I think oh or like. I don't really. I don't really fuck with that. I'll okay that's interesting because that's ib line their in cv. I should. I feel like i will start to now. I mostly go straight to cleaning lower. Yeah or the candy. I'll tell me about a cleaning product. That has just been such a disappointment to you. Something that you're like so excited about something that you were feeling really good about simon. Oh my god the had this i bought. I'm so excited and was just useless now. I'm putting you on the spot. No i'm going to have something. Did in range enrage me last year. How about something. I've used before but then turned on. Okay yes yes. The pine sol. Tell me more. I like fabulous so multi-purpose because it has more of a muted smell and it smells just like cleaner more. It's less like sweet. Sweet and like the normal fabulous was like almost a little bit and pine sol really was always my go-to and then in this time. I just became really hyper aware of smells. Because i was smelling it all the time and i think pine sol really became like unbearable to me. Like if i had it to save react reacting really had this kind of visceral reaction to it where i felt like oppressed by. Ah felt too much. It was too it. Stung me kind of i. Really turn my back on pine sol. And i'm never going to be a pint sol grogan now justin firm like is fabulous so paying you for this. Appear to be if they'd like to all about it please. No this is all like. I'm fully you like doing this. 'cause i love that now. Do you fear though. Because of your love fabulous oh and the volume at which you purchase it and the speed at which you use it. Do you ever fear that when you are like an elder and your niece and nephew ask you about this time and you smell the smell fabulous. Oh will you be transported back to a pandemic probably great. I mean i'm i'm like. Yeah i mean this is good smell like hospital moment. I mean this is your salt lake city. Yeah like it will be like say. I smell like fabulous so that was very rough time for me. i needed. Nephew are gonna show me. They're like departments or something. When i'm in my fifties and i'm just gonna smell it and be like like leave and they're gonna be like oh carry. What's yeah i'm pine sol. It turned on. Its wanna throw up. That's so interesting. I'm a. I'm a method spray all purpose. Kinda gal but i will say that what i love most about the beginning of the pandemic and it has sort of Because now he's been doing this for like a year but like when all the cleaning products like flying off the shelves like no one wanted like the green products anymore like everyone. Everyone wanted like straight bleach. Like i'll give me give me bleacher. Give me nothing. So i was always find having the methods stuff and then i use a little clorox but i think even the smell of hand sanitizer already is like stirs something in me. There certain ones that are just like repulsive you really become like a connoisseur of sanitizer. And i just give me this the normal straight up ones. Yeah because like the more maybe eco-friendly ones of smell. Bad yes have you. Have you made any impulse like big purchases. Maybe like influenced on instagram. Or like did you get into any of the you know early. Quarantine crossing bread knitting my. I've been using hymns lot. I'll mike hot another spawn. Okay I've been on propecia for a few years now but now now i'm supplementing it with hymns and it's actually like propitious helped me a lot. Your hair looks great. Thank but it wasn't it was it wasn't like i was standing and had a little head of receding hairlines tech. It's him how long does it take to work. How long does something like that like that kind of process take. It takes a minute. I think you start noticing the pro-peace after a few months but really when you achieve your full i'm a fucking psychopath. Listen to me talk about this. S you you're like it takes maybe a fully like two years. Probably the i mean. That's such a long commitment time like those are everything's always marketed. To us as a quick fix or like overnight so i feel like it's been a real dedication for you. Yeah maybe it's been sooner. But i really feel like i've been noticing it more because i haven't been able to get my haircut law right i think just letting it grow out. I'm like oh it's actually. It looks very it. Looks like it looks like something you have to deal with like. Oh like all that hair deal hair. And i was you know. I think any man worries about balding. But i think especially being a gay man. It's like a probably stereotype. I just. I'm like i like you. Fear fear it. And it's like i have to like i have to you know being a gay man even if you're not in acting which i'm i'm an actor but like you just want you want a book so like if you're not going to get the hair right it said i didn't know that and i'm like i'm i feel like people are like weird about talking about being on it and i feel like i've seen more people being open about it. I'm always talking about like my hair journey. And like being afraid. I was being hairline balding a little and like i'm fully like it. It's part of like my you know keeps me. It's part of my anxiety peeps big zana in in well the so funny because like we talk about like you know bodies in diet culture here a lot and like the like the like i have never been exposed to whatever culture is being targeted at you and gay men that say like losing. Your hair is like bad whereas like i'm very familiar with like the don't gain weight like you need to work out which i know is present in gay culture too but like it's it's very like you know when we were younger. It's like well whatever magazine you picked up like that was what you were told. But now there's all these avenues for them to come stress us out about. Our bodies are weird bodies that no one has any control over really. I know it's yeah. I think but i think it's i think it's like a it's a guy thing but i actually like i think salim lay as as us. They make men tariff. Everyone's terrified going bald no matter what. You're actually you're what whatever however identifier identify. It's everyone's afraid of going ball. Well the i mean they've they've hammered that intas that that's bad i think but i also on the flip side. I think you can be soup. It doesn't matter if you're ball because you can be super sexy joke org. I mean real corey. There's all these like. I'm very attractive. Guys stop problem mean for for women. It's like the size of your waist. You know in contrast with the size of your hip so this is your boobs and that's strain into but then but then you just see someone who like doesn't have what's deemed like the proportions which is literally everyone and you're like she's hot like oh she's like really pretty and then you're like wait a minute wait. Why why do. I think my waist small and it's not even it's like i. I'm not like saying it's bad to be. i think i'm just saying. I'm being honest thing that's your but also honest about like how they like. David instilled fear in a short. But then you then you realize like it's not about thing and there's a super sexy guys with bald. Well we. I mean i said joke orga who is melissa. Gorgon house new jersey. Also theresa jude isis brother. Joe gorka starts out trying to make his hair loss work and then over the next few seasons goes to being bald like just like shaves so hot you know and he rocks it and he he. He knows he hurts with like it. Doesn't it's uh now that's all. I'm i'm just being it's all being is honest I just wanted to. You are beautiful. You know like we are. We are all beautiful. You are the most beautiful. I'm getting out of here thank you. I'm just kidding so. I know that you didn't come here to talk about fabulous though. It seems kinda like you might have. What what product specifically did you bring or are you going to get it. he is just. Oh my gosh. i got for christmas from my mom. And it's like a basically like a flat. Like i can't even describe. It's like a flap thing for it or context. I texted carry this morning before record. And i go. Do you wanna tell me what you're bringing or do you want to be surprised. And he goes. Should i bring a massage flap. I was like. I don't yeah by description alone. Yes guess the name brings up a lot of question okay. So it's like a wrap. It's a wrap you put your hands through these like candles and you have to plug it in. It's kind of annoying because you need to have. It plugged all the time. Hey brooks down yes. And then you had a button panel on the side It's like a massage or yeah you wrap up. People love this stuff you can bring it on. A plane probably going playing. Who's going whenever we can fly again. But it's it's really it's like because i can see it moving really good and i have a lot of Next i'm like. Qvc right now. I have a lot of naked us. Like i was going. I was getting my neck my spine kind of corrective because my posture was so terrible. And so i've been in need of a chiropractor all year and this is helping me that. Yeah there we talked about this on this show but like on instagram. Some people have said like this is the thing that they love does yours have heat. It does we'll you press. Yes there's heat there's some it's a little painful sometimes. See yeah i mean. But it's it's it's really nice and you can just do it while watching salt lake city housewives while hang sex and the city movie times. Go flop help. I mean famously my physical therapists similarly you know how they sometimes feel for like attention point. My my will my physical therapist. That i've never seen a body this tight. You have no muscles. That are not tense right now. You're like thank you so much being used home. I have a lot of people to think to get here. Do you know how expensive the massager they know. You got it as a gift. My maybe it would be uncouth to google. But do you know about the range. I think i don't think they're expensive And one brand is yours I don't even know. Oh it's called it's called Naptha it's the naple one. That is the one that gets a lot of circulation in instagram. Did you think instagram. And the do things. And i'm so happy to hear that you love it dollars. That's that is fifty nine. Listen that's the price you can. That's a lot for me right now but like if you can shelve out. Fifty nine ninety nine. It's it's worth it and like it's what do right exactly and you're not going to get a massage right now. Like i really hope so. You get your your bang for your buck with us. Hi simon tried to do you not share. He's he's a more sensitive than i am with like shoulder stuff and i'm like i'm like tear into me like i haven't cracked my in south. So i'm i'm my threshold for it is like high. But he's maybe more reluctant to do it but he hasn't has liked it. Though that the that is very similar with the one of the gifts she got me for christmas. Which is and. I've mentioned it briefly here But it's the body pillow and it's like marketed. Pregnant women but literally anyone with a body could have it and it like you know what those wraparound your whole body. You can like spoon them or like. It makes it so that you don't wake up like all mangled going to need. Oh you need it. i'm gonna send you a link. It is so. But i just like drag mind to the couch every morning. It's like very comfortable like do you. Do you step inside. Yeah let me. I'm gonna chat you know you don't step inside i'm gonna tell you the links you can say But we were talking about it briefly on the listener episode. Where we were like. It's the calm. The company has done themselves a real disservice by just marketing to pregnant women because literally they can make some more money. I know it's weird camera. show you. This isn't the exact one i have but this is the just showing you can say do. Is there like a chat in the podcast. Oh yeah oh yeah there okay. Every great yeah yeah. We're here over here. that's me okay. Look at it and tell me we're only only deserve comfort of your own. My god right. i'm it's so comfy and similarly. Yeah it's the same price point as the nato massager. It's like between forty and sixty dollars depending on which when you get and oh i. Can't i mean like it is. You should especially i was gonna say if you have like a back thing like i do where you need a little bit of. I mean that's the whole point of it for pregnant. Women is like oh your bodies changing and all of a sudden you're airing this whole human-like hurt to let us help you. Like i'm carrying the weight of the world. So i need a pillow to you deserve a body pillow. Everyone does and also. If you're if you're a partner isn't like a spooner was mine isn't and like totally like i. Just use the pillow and everyone everyone's happy sponsored. I'm investing in this. Because i think it looks great so comfortable and it was funny. I didn't say anything to anybody on the show about this and then a listener called in for the listener episode and she was like i need to recommend like this pregnancy pillow. I m not pregnant. I'm not planning on getting pregnant. But this is like the most comfortable thing i have and i had just truly just opened mind for christmas and very happy. A good core purchase. That's a good husband. It's a good as we will keep him another year. he's renewed. we have more year. Okay so you recommend the massage her. I love that sixty bucks. I know those things sometimes go on sale. You'll see like a little thing. That's like percent off for like actually now that i was christmas. I'm sure there's a great deal. But i'm glad to know that you like it and it and it really Does it can bring the pain if you want it to. Yeah no it's it's it's good like your and you can seriously just sit there and it's very low effort and you're getting you're getting worked on so it's great one of my favorite things about listening to tough sicilian bitches. Even though i listen every episode. Now i now. I not only watch new jersey but i re listened to tough sicilian bitches. Is dan like me. He's like they can't hear you. Because sometimes i'll talk back to you guys like as and then they're going to say that milania said you know and then they'll say and dan's like how many times have you seen this. What is seen from jersey. That doesn't get a 'cause. I have a bunch and i know we have some real housewives heads here. What is a scene from real housewives of new jersey. And then maybe we'll do new york. Because i love to hear both that is not a prostitution. Horsing it's not like a cultural turning point moment scene but that's still a line a moment a delivery that just lives in your head rent free because i have one and i wanna hear yours are too high moments saint we've quoted a bunch on Tussling bitches but probably when danielle Said something like and darkness will rain upon them or or when she danny provenzano or in the parking lot of market provisions or whatever. And she's like. I want to go to panini afraid to go about fifteen inches afraid to go inside this like nothing all like italian market. Because he's afraid to kill them and then my other favorite moment is when cathy lee is riding her bike to karatas. Looks like maggie smith in the prime of cody. Just like it's like all day and she's as cruising down the highway in a bike. The flickering amber light new jersey sunday in the background honking. And she like way. Everyone knows her. She's like those are the first ones that come to mind on a beach cruiser. Like she's on a schwinn like it's not like a road bike she's like beats bag says like cloaks on she's sorry reported. Keillor's holy. you like me now. I know i know i know. I know it's so rosy i know rosy rosy is rose. He's going to have to tweet. I was not at the capital before we started recording when we were just checking levels we were talking about. How whitney from real salt lake city just put up a story yesterday. That was like. I just want to let everyone know that i was at the capitol and we were saying you know what does that say about you that you have to go on the horn and just like let everyone like by tweeted like i just wanna get like this out i was not at the cabot co. I know a lot of you were wondering but i didn't go a lot of just you know. Yeah i know like. I usually don't share a lot about my private life. But i do wanna tell you i was not at the capital. Ceo and it says like an e like slide of the ap caroline mark. I was not me right. E photos does like. I was not there and like bold the words dot and then i got my. I got my own instagram. The things that from jersey that live in my head rent for your the way. That joey karen i which like like. I wish you guys are still doing jersey. Because i would love there to be like a Like a new jersey off where it's like you and lara versus me and jolie. Because i feel like we we could take on. I think you guys would probably beat us. There's depends on the season depends on the moment. I think you guys have that. Christmas are where melania is like. Doesn't believe that her grandma dressed up as santa entry. Someone gets mad gets mad and it's me milan. Know what the fuck you doing. What are you wearing. That for me is almost better. Hey mr pomodoro plummer daughter. What are your so this is a this is just how jillian i talk to each other when melissa i so i have but i want to get this one out when melissa i introduces herself and her talking head and she's wearing that like tap recital costume it's like a pink sparkly course it and she goes my name's melissa gordon. I'm married to my husband. Joe seven years. And so whenever i talked to jolie i always go. I was pick up the phone and say hi. i'm karen moss married my husband dan for two years but my two favorite moments. That live in my head rent-free constantly. And that i say out loud and no one ever knows what i'm talking about is melissa. Going into the grocery store with her entire family to do thanksgiving shopping. And she's running off her list and she's like gel she's like we need sausage hot and sweet. I need a turkey and lasagna. And joe is like picking up things and he gets seven loaves of wheat bread and puts them in. The car goes wheat bread make sims and then he's like he's like how about some pineapple pineapple know that like he's her fourth child she's like stop stop and then the other one is just one line from abbey manzo during one. The christmas episodes were carolina. Come in my husband's clothes a mess. But i love it and you hear a albi in the background going. I love grated cheese. It's kind of my thing and it's like so annoying to me. Oh yeah caroline. Looking haggard pimples on my face. Swear my husband's clothes on christmas eve. I would love to be at her house. On christmas eve though also when albeit trying to hit on alexa serena and he's like he's like oh your movement because you want ilk and then you just see. Chris just covers his like. Oh my god context for new jersey watchers. There are some weird collaboration between the alexa ray joel committee and the bravo. Pr team where they're like. Okay we'll just send the new jersey cast to alexa ray joel concert at some bar and call it like a thing. Alert currently is obsessed with like being close to a billy joel spawned. She's like she's like she's like your both your ultra privilege like this weird like we are. It's so beautiful like arrangements. So i think i think my son alby should marry alexa. They're both rich. They from rich families. Come from privileged. There's a certain thing about kids who come from privilege they get each other and then be like trying to hit on her play fucking unbearable. yeah lawrence and lauren's sitting there just like oh my god. How much am i getting to be in the scene while i what you are witnessing right now is it truly like trying to now. Recreate an episode pitches with carrie. I i'm just such a i'm with you. I'm going to do like a live show. You have to come on. And we'll march on stage invited or not. You're you're you're gonna you're gonna insurrection. Now you're gonna be. You're to be gus but also from new york i'm okay. What would live in my head rent free from new york. Oh god there is a moment where so so. Dan will not watch. Dan likes jersey and can tolerate it because it is just so camp but like watching. Ramona singer makes dan visibly physically uncomfortable. Like she's so rude staff. She so rural she's horrible. She has like no filter and she's always like sincerity. Like i'm sorry i called you like. She's she's miserable to watch like to the point where i was like. How about ramona for like our new puppies coming soon and like how about ramona should and he's said no. We cannot name her ramona. There is a moment. Ramona gets in a cab and starts berating the driver. And she's like i need to go to one hundred forty seven like west seventeenth. So that's and then he goes okay and she goes so what avenues are between. That is that between like. She's like testing him and she's like it is it is. It's so deeply like it's an exfoliating inside of my body. Because i feel like my spirit floats out of me and flies away horrible horrible. Probably alex mccord is comes barreling down the stairs in america and you just hear offscreen just here like with her like all her leg garments on the to go. What did you say is it remote or something. It's crying. ramona ramona's crying. Because jill like you'll never be a friend of mine will never be a friend of mine. In your third luanne kelly and getting i think like hannah don or some kind of like appropriate appropriate coakley inappropriate due to low angus us. That horrible sound and alex comes out. And then kelly just goes creepy. And she's actually right for one. Kelly salient moment for calais. Where she'd like stop backstairs. And she's totally like abusing alex and my gas lighting her but she's actually a lot of ways but it's like she's like you're being weird getting. This is creepy. This is just hearing that. Maybe when i love that probably one of the berkshires episodes when you see land smoking a screen door very like august is h county. It is very you know. He's yeah moments that don't get like a lot of airtime. I think all of those are that. But like i mean i know like don't tell me about it's about tom. It's about tom on t shirts across america. But there is something for that scene with. Jules talking about how her dad might be dying and lowlands like bethany called me a slut and is like sometimes things are more important. She's like my dad is dying and shoot so means they bring back she was. I like tar give enough time. I guess that Yeah there's so much and you work is like so far reaching anything with our x was gray. It's the old days like ramona brooklyn. It's like a dirty rag. Yeah meanwhile probably house today that would cause millions It was great. And then obviously like sonia saying like i party with john. John john john jet or being. There's one there's one sonia seen. And i think either season six or seven and ramona is like talking here about something. It's like the one normal roman moment but then sonya's off you know how they every season they pick a character to like kind of like zing off the rails a little and then everyone just reacts so. I'm the biggest comedian you know in your life. I've been a comedian for twenty five years. I've been on broadway and ramona's like no. You know you have had that like that. It's not true moments even ramona. How severe like this is real. I was like you guys. If you liked even a shred of what we're talking about like you have to go. Listen to sexy unique podcasts. And just i mean. Laura i love you. I love every episode. You've ever done. But for the purpose of this episode scroll and anytime carry as a guest and especially going through tough sicilian bitches or houses salt lake city. It is some of the funniest most calming content. I have consumed for me. You know because like housewives is my safe-space so i thank you so much for your working. Your service thank you caroline. Let's move before we go before we go. I need you to you can pick any housewife from any city from any era. If you're going to choose them choose your fighter. Who do you pack so kill for me. I mean to everyone else has to go. You can save one. You can take one on the lookout. Is someone doing murder that would be caroline she'd whack. I'm to the murders my family. Tell you mind while you think of yours. shannon door hands down orange county. She's she's woo. So i feel like she could. I could use her on the west coast. Got a little business with her. I could bring her to the east coast she. She's she's wild. She was brave enough to sort of put her her. I think very hard for her weight. Loss journey on tv. So i know she has. She has a tough skin. And i'll let the rest of them saying shannon shannon's coming on the boat with me. That's a good one. I love shannon. i don't know amazon. An apologist someone the other day. I mean as my friend and we were joking called me a rich mormon apologists when we were talking about like the stances of the salt lake city women on on a government co and i kind of had to step back and say maybe that is something. I tell me who you pick. I know you. I know you're you have like three circulating and you're trying to pick the right one. I have to say who is she. It might be karen huger. Okay okay. I was thinking either. Between them or bethany no bethany can hold her own. Bethany is monetize the sinking ship. She doesn't she doesn't need to get on the lifeboat with us. She's fine karen or giselle. Sal oh my gosh okay with them and then i would have fun because i was just be shitting on each other and like going after each other. You really fun to watch. And like i got like be caught in the middle. I want to be used against each other. I love your. I've potomac is quite quickly. Became my favorite and there. I just think that they're like for me. They like a pit him is housewives. Yeah especially their unions. And i just think. Karen specially karen just is like just the right amount of detached from reality but also like really funny and like just. He's the sonya in my in my like a good time gal zell just like you know also what i base a lot of times liking my had the way they the way they treat their gaze because a lot of the housewives treat their gaze like they're like petsnew like giselle. Her best friend is a gay hairstylists. Who like earth style. He doesn't always some of ralf are not. She's famously has terrible taste but Terrible style guys but she just. I don't know yeah. It feels like a treat. Their gay friends like they're humans. I love that such a nice park do that. I love that too but yeah they're also like i love even the nightmare ones. I'm staying i ride for. That's i'd say one of those two. That's a good one. That's a good one. And now it makes me rethink like okay. Do i really want shannon's and i'm just going to think on this. We'll have to have you come back. And is great. Shannon is like shannon is the perfect. I like watching her like she. She's not boring but she's not she's cringe-worthy as much as you. She's so funny. She's very self aware. It's very very self absorbed yet. It's like an amazing. She's perfect for tv whereas some of them like we said in the beginning about salt lake. Like you start a new housewives franchise you come onto the housewives franchise you know eleven or twelve years after they started. I know it's been like fifteen years now. Like you know what you're supposed to do. And i think a lot of them are performing and i don't like that i want you to come on and not know that you're ruining your life. That's fun for me. Shannon and tamra hold each other in the bus in ireland. Well leary mad at kelly. One of them looks like she's like exercising demon from her. It's because kelly said no wonder. Your daughter doesn't wanna live with you. Which to her. That was a horrible thing to say. And then and then tamara's like engine and calm down and vicky is like grains arranged. I don't like i. obviously loathed. what she's become. Yeah and what she probably are always was. But i missed the heyday of vicky when she was like vicky crying and costa rica and the jungle when in the rain. Do i know something. You wanna something sad. They're all like what. Someday we're all gonna be dead but she doesn't have a point but but it was like that was such a perfect moment like she's she's having a complete like central breakdown and it's incredible. Lisa barlow gave me those vibes when they were at the met gala. Lunch at mariam cosby's house and they were all going around and saying something vulnerable themselves and lisa's crying. Goes i just a lot of big dreams for myself. That's hard to say. Sometimes she's great. She's staying she's staying. Who do you think before we. I was that was the fighter. Question was gonna be my last one. Now he's my. This is my actual question real housewives of salt lake city. Who is not coming back for season. Two who are they not bringing back Okay depending on what comes out about. Her church Mary mike ax which would be sad because she even though she's clearly has some like deeply problematic things going on with like the way from what i've been reading about like what actually goes on in her church for alleged dissidents right Maybe her and yeah or maybe honestly wildcard maybe meredith. Come back interesting interesting. I would thought yeah. She doesn't do much for me. Doesn't do much for me there. I also think she's lisa half the time so they need to work on that yeah. She's not she's she she brought in her son and i think he was almost like. She thought it would give her more personality in a way but like suck to is like she's glamorous and elegant and sheep but that we've been here for fifteen years in housewives vel does not enough to keep you. We know that jude one moment in the last episode where she said i'm on engaging on the converse yes she was like black and that her a little. I love it well. I'm so excited to once again. Re listened to tesla in bitches. We enter what is been a very treacherous time in los angeles We're not leaving our houses. I'm trying to find as many things that will come me as possible and right at the top of the list is lauren carey imitating the voices of daniel stub and theresa. Jude is kerry. Thank you so much for bringing you. For talking about fabulous. We're going to revisit our relationship with pine sol now. I'm i'm so happy that you have been such a presence in my car radio and in my airpods this this time i'm happy to it's been wonderful substitute for not being able to see you. I know moved. We moved here almost a year ago. And i've seen no one been nowhere and have never even i mean maybe my next stop is the cvs on the hollywood walk of fame. And i expect to see their meet me there. Tell everyone where they can follow. You can follow me on twitter and instagram at carrow. Got al if you are familiar with daniel and sexy us. There's patriae on you can. Month bonus episodes new episodes each week. Get yourselves to hulu. If start watching from the beginning you guys did season one of jersey right or did you sir. She's into season two season. One it's a little goes a little slow prostitution horror. You've been engaged. Nineteen times start with season to revisit. The podcast you'll be laughing in a minute. Kerry thank you for coming you guys. We will carry caroline talking about the housewife. We'll see you next for another episode of.

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My on Mytalk, mytalk that one in. Share the later date. The random dream though the person was just driving. Driving and they'll. Give me a ride with they rolled right path me. It was crazy. Okay! Okay what about you? Know Dreams craziness. Rode right past you. Know nothing crazy. I'm I was looking at? Why is cray trending right now? I said I was just looking at. SC on of you. I see he interviewed the CEO of Chick-fil-a. Dan Cathy don't really. Oh, that sounds amazing now. That's that's an amazing interview. I haven't even watched shit. That sounds amazing on pay. Does interviews the president of Chick-fil-a? Really like that's. Really like say what you need to sit down with that man and figure out why this guy goes against all that he believes. In the. I'm I'm looking at the comments. It doesn't let to positive. It looks like a CEO took. Fillet was talking about why slavery was a white blessing and trying to explain. Why that was well, I definitely got that definitely got to see that. I haven't even I haven't heard of yet I'm just looking at yeah. I'm just looking at the trending. Haven't I haven't watched that interview? But I can absolutely see why a white person would think. Slavery was a white blessing four hundred years of free labor. Yes that was a blessing the way people. Were saying I can totally see why he would say that are why he would think that. All Right! Let's get to show craft in front page news. What we talking about? we are going to be talking about Donald, trump and police reform. What is he proposing right now? Go Right. We'll get into next keeping it locked this the breakfast club good morning. and. The Breakfast Club. Let's getting some front page news. Where we start you. Well, let's start with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell now. He did an interview on ESPN. Special called the return of sports, and he talks about Colin Kaepernick. Here's what he said if he wants to resume his career in the NFL. That obviously is going to take a team to make that decision but I welcome that support the club making that decision and encourage them to do that if his efforts are not on the field, but continuing the work in this space. We welcome to that to the table and to be able to help us and guide us in help us make better decisions about the kinds of things need to be done in communities. We have invited him in before. We WanNA make sure that everybody's welcome at the table. He said before he said that when they had the press conference would Jay Z, you know these are the same exact thing that he welcomes any team the sign, Colin Kaepernick and how they've been invited him to be a part of the inspire change situation before, but if I was calling cabinet, I would not want to come back to the NFL number one. Colin bigger than football for a couple of years now and his purposes just way graded in Indian football. He does the NFL. Morfey was an could possibly do him at this point, but you could tell he does. He? Absolutely positively plan was approved that he could still play and I'm sure he wants to run away. I'm sure he does, but I would vows in. His whole life, you know he's been playing football and that's his career, so I guess when you feel something that you love doing is taken from you. You know the protesters never about you know Colin, not having a job in the league I think it turned into that. All know what he was originally taking a knee for you is taking an evil everything that everybody's in the streets protesting against now, but then eventually it turned into this. You know we gotta get calling back in the league. That never with the protests was about and saying NBA players shouldn't play because entertainment is a distraction. She wanted to greatest symbols of Social Justice out here Colin. Kaepernick, he played, would never. saw. That's. We, yeah. We can't tell Colin how to feel about playing or now. I'm talking about everybody else's personal logic when it comes to with these as athletes. I'm talking about yes. Nothing I'm speaking right now. Let's give a recipe to Oluwatosin Aka Toyin so lousy was nineteen years old. Black lives matter activists and Victoria Sim seventy five years old a volunteer for AARP. They were both found Saturday night in southeast, Tallahassee and they do have a man in custody in connection with the homicides of these two women who went missing last week, so according to police airing Galil, who's forty nine years old, had been arrested and was being held at Leon County jail. Those charges are felony, murder and kidnapping. They have not given a motive for the crimes as of now, but this was something that was. Definitely being discussed and had gone viral. They had twins tweets. She said anyways I was molested in Tallahassee Florida by a black man this morning at five thirty. The man offered to give me a ride to find some place to sleep, and we collect my belongings from church. I refused refuge to a couple of days back to escape unjust living conditions. He came disguised as a man of God and ended up. Picking me up from nearby Saxon Street I, entered his truck only because I carry anything to defend myself. Not even a phone which is currently at Church and I have poor vision are treated. The Holy Spirit to keep me safe, and she said when we were arrived at his house, he offered me a shower. I thanked him and showered and he gave me a change of clothes. He exposed himself to me. And then he said I told him about a sexual assault situation that happened to be in March and he tried to. It was anyway. Basically he talks about being her. She talks about being harassed after seeking shelter, and she was sexually assaulted, and now they did find her body, and they have found a man. They say, did it. So I know that story has gone viral and we hadn't discussed it before, but when make sure that justice is here, and we want to also extend our condolences to the family and friends of both of those women absolutely. Absolutely earth. All right well, that is front page news. Get it off your chest. Eight, hundred, five, five, one, five one. If you're upset, you need to vent. It is up right now. Are Four Lines Wide Open for you? The number again is eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one, zero, five. One is the breakfast club morning. The Breakfast Club. Visit your time to get it off your chest or the your man. From you on the breakfast, you've got on your mom. Hello this. Man. I WANNA. Talk about mine. Diety I've really developed serious anxiety through all this stuff. That's been going on from, too. Much. To to to especially now, contesting what happened midst broke in Atlanta like. This triggered an even more and I can't sleep and I think to myself that I'm I'm I'm in my thirty I'm Ali Thirties. But I'm I'm pretty much healthy and he's. Developing Patterns diety. This quite like how many other people are going through right now at. How are we going to even tackle that after that? Even after during this whole thing, how can tackle what can you? Tell me what can I do for my anxiety? Because I've been reading. I've been trying to exercise I since I've been home, I've been really getting sleep, but it's there and I did something to my mom. I showed her these video that she's been having a hard time. Dealing with her back to home and I think I treated her idol before two because this is. It's such a hectic time. You know number one number one number one you not alone to Washington Post is put out an article on June. Twelfth talks about how depression and anxiety has spiked among black Americans after George Floyd, deaf and you know number two you already on the right track. You know you said you're running in your exercising, but really you need to sit down and talk to somebody. Therapy therapy is absolutely positively the best thing for my anxiety when I sit down and talk to my tell it. There is my sacred purpose coach. That's absolutely the best thing I would find somebody to talk to. The Brooks Right. We've only. For almost everything correct. Like. I've never seen so polite. That got stop by the of. He did everything correct and he's still died. That that that. That shops I. Don't and that's shopping in the sense. We have people like he did everything correctly. Yes, sir, yes, he's he. He said no, sir, he he to everything that did that. They wanted him to do. And I could I. I. Know I've been stopped by the customer and I. Think about it like you. Don't think about it that you have a job in the morning. You got kids that are waiting for you home. That's right. That's right. You Got Right and you stop gop opponent sleep and he ended up dying and he told you his daughter was hoping have Right Oh. He lives up the block I. Don't know I it so much. You. You you gotTA. You gotTA. Learn protect your mind from trauma. Dr Rita Walker have posted these three tips, and it was so good about you know protecting your mind from trauma number one. You've got acknowledged your grief for the victims whether it's George Floyd You know, the brother in Atlanta are. Taylor got acknowledge your grief for the victims and for the black community. You got to Avoi-, watching videos of violence toward black people I know it's hard. You know to turn our eyes away from that, but you Kinda got avoided, and sometimes you got all the time you gotta take a quiet moment to gain some peace of mind. Just sit a stand outside if you can take a few deep. Deep, breaths don't do that to yourself. You re traumatizing yourself over and over and over and over with thank you for Calling Umbro get it off your chest and invest in your mid to wealth, everybody man, especially at a time like this garage energy protect your mind from trauma, eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one, zero, five one hit us up now with the breakfast club. Good Morning, the breakfast club. Wake up! and. Get off your chest. Humana blessed. We want to hear from you on a breakfast. Hello. WHO's this? Hey, this is misty. Misty morning. Get it off your chest. Get off my chest. I was just. Thinking the black lives matter of movement and again I'm a white female. CanNot even pretend to relate to what the black nitty is going through right now. And I listened to you guys a lot. You know to try to get a different perspective on things. All the black lives matter movement is is frustrating because it seems like the black lives don't care about other black lives. Black on black set of violence is is far worse. A setup I'll tell you I'm saying to you respectfully. There's nothing you can say wider the net, okay. Okay. There's nothing. Nothing, you can say why did that? You. Have to prove you're on. I don't know what you're doing right now. Is You're all alive mattering US right now? Okay, and it's not about that. It's about Ns. Police officers killing are killing unarmed, black and brown people right now. Don't come to a cancer rally at asking about why nobody in here talking about each. Okay how about? White. People are killed by police officers and why people. Planet but by per capita. Talking about percentage wise is a different story. Okay, but you do know as as. You know they're white people. Kill White people black people kill black people. Asian people kill because in the communities together. That's just what happens. We're not saying white white lives matter what. Got You a question based off what you just say, a statistic simple statistic. I know why people UH statistics black, Americans are two point five times more likely than whites to be killed by police explained that when it's way more. So. More. THAN! Fifty. Fifty six percent. Also Most. Most states police forces kill black people at a higher rate per capita in white people at a statistic, everything is because more black people commit crimes. Go Brush your teeth of. One and you ain't goggle yet. Flossy ain't brush your teeth. You just got manny's all on your tongue, and you just put spreading manny's. Why people commit crimes just as much as black people do. Black people are just more likely to be arrested and charged and actually several other sentence, but let me let me question why people committed the greatest crime. Okay, which was slavery all right off. Let me ask you a question. Right when it when it comes to. Sit was saying something when it comes to people like that. Do you try to explain these? Hang up and just let it go over this. Way But. You know they're not really trying to understand. The easily google any facts and numbers. I think people are willfully ignorant sometimes and choose to spew out what they want to. When they could easily do some research and find it out themselves if they so choose if she was if she would put that God damn man as jaw down, stop eating demand as right out the jaw witherspoon than she could use both hands, use Google. Okay, but it's hard to google and you got that Manny's John. One Hand in that big thing at big spoon of okay, you. You can google any article. Stab using black on black crime. Deflect away from police brutality experience explains and breaks down all the numbers, and how everything can be explained to people, so do some research yourself before you even try to go out there, just trying to help out any way people that want to use this as a defense. Just please do the research yourself before you even say that. Why is the term? Black lives matter so touchy? People is definitely a trigger for White, house it trigger. Say Black lives matter. And nobody is saying that white lives don't matter or human. Life doesn't matter what you're saying that this particular point in time We're screaming. Black lives matter because y'all like they don't. Like. Why is that a true but? Did you ask about about the pastor who they were about, they were dumb. Some white people were dumping a refrigerator on a property that he owned, and he asked them to not dump the refrigerator there, and then they started trying to attack him, and then he had to pull out a gun to defend itself. It was him by himself and I think like why people. When the COPS came, they ended up arresting the Black Pastor, and not the people that were yelling out racial slurs in front of the police at him room. I gotta find the whole story, but it was a whole situation, and they actually did suspend some of the police officers as well and apologized to him all right, get it off your chest, eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one, zero five. When we got the way I'd be born data to talk to today's to born. They would have been forty six years old day. Drop on the bond from pop. Es to pack is trending this morning, too happy birthday to and we are going to talk about Howard Stern and he is now speaking out after this black face video that has surfaced all right. We'll get into that next. Keep it locked this. The breakfast club good morning. The Breakfast Club. Guys, it's bobby bones host the bobby bones show, and I'm pretty much always sleepy because I wake up with three o'clock in the morning, a couple of hours later I. Get all my friends together, so we get into a room and we do a radio show. We your allies. We tell our stories. We try to find as much good in the world. World if he possibly can, and we looked through the news of the day that you'll care about also your favorite country artists always stopping by to hang out and share their lives and music to wake up with a bunch of my friends on ninety eight point seven W M, Z Q in Washington DC, or wherever the rotates you on the iheartradio APP. Morning everybody is Dj Envy Lee, Charlene Guy we all the breakfast club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk pushy. It's about. Neuro. report. Off? On the breakfast club. Well congratulations to push the t and to his wife Virginia. They have their first child together. Nigel Breaks Thornton there are some was born on June eleven, and he shared a picture of his son on Instagram with his name, his birthdate and Iraq it's. -gratulations to them. Shot the push your teeth. Congratulations to them Porsche loopholes dropping include. Team. Pointing. Lessons to. Your got married two years ago after they had been dating for years. And now they have no baby. I right and also congratulations to Tijuana Taylor. She is now the latest news for Mac cosmetics, so they have teamed up and she said that she's been playing with Mac products since she was fifteen years old, coming up with her own concoctions get personalized colors, and all of that and she said she was inspired to work with their. Their brand, because of their history of celebrating women of color through similar collaborations. They've done. Collazo. Nikki menards or Leon Marriage Blige so she said I've been sanomat ever. Since I was fifteen, it was the first brand that made me like make up. I'm so grateful and excited to be sharing this beautiful collection I created with the MAC team, but also hoping to inspire other young women that anything and everything is possible. Yeah, congratulations. Yeah, THAT'S A. Taylor? I'm driving soon I saw the track list. I right now. Howard Stern has spoken. After video has resurfaced of him in black face. Now the video was from a New Year's Eve special back in nineteen, ninety three, and this was resurfaced after Donald trump junior. Re tweeted the clip of the performance and here's what it sounded like. Russia I hate black face I just can't get. Mad Whoopi done road everything I'm going to say tonight. It's all right eight that right you're smelling. Now, Howard Stern also told variety. The issue was F- crazy be the first to admit I won't go back and watch those shows. It's like who is that guy, but that was my stick. That's what I did and I own it I. Don't think I got embraced by Nazi groups and hate groups. They seem to think I. was against them to. Everybody had a bone to pick with me, and he said I was able to change my approach. Approach able to change my life and change how I communicated. If I had to do it all over again. What I Lampoon Ted Danson a white guy in black face, yeah I was lampooning him, and saying I'm going to shine a light on this boat. Would I go about it the same way now? Probably not, and here's what else he had to say on his show on Sirius attacking me during the coronavirus enduring black lives, matter is absolutely. Crazy you want to concentrate on me and bullying me. You know and and expose me. For All the TV shows I've done they're. They're all out there. There's nothing new here. We all know. I was the craziest mother around radio. I'm excited about gay rights, telling you not to beat up gay people, and I'm excited about the changes that are coming out of black lives matter watching that guy to death. It's sickening in appalling, and it's ridiculous and I think real change might be in the air. I mean he's right. Right you know it happens to the best of us. You've gotta take the L on that one. Yes, outgrown. Yes, he's evolved, but all that stuff did happen. Do I. Think it's stupid for people that will be given out retroactive speeding tickets. Yes, I think it is highly ridiculous to hold people accountable for things. They said publicly in the day because the rules would totally different backed into speed limit was totally faster in play. As true everything. Everything was more shocking. But, you can't open. Feel like somebody like Taylor, for instance at one of our producers. She's never heard it so when she heard it for the first time. It's the second she was like. Wow, I, I didn't know that. People here first time and they feel away. But you got to put things in context you can't. That was Howard. Stern in the early Nineteen Ninety S. you know what I'm saying. It's not like Howard Stern said that yesterday, because that was the case in living color wooden fly now chapelle show might not fly. All great movies from the nineties wouldn't fly. Majority of the music definitely wouldn't fly okay. Some of your favorite rapper's that you love and adore now have used gay slurs and some wild stuff on records. Okay, Oh, the totally never time back then context Madison, but if somebody is now and feels away, they can still feel the way, but hey I. which I mean, it was a different time. Context I E and that is your rumor. Appoint all right. Thank you, missy when we come back. We got some front page news. What we talking about? Yes, we'll be talking about a officer who was fired from the Buffalo Police Department and that was for staffing. Colleagues chokehold. Now they're saying. We deserve a new set of eyes on that case. After what happened with George Floyd Alright. We'll get into that next keeping. Lock this the breakfast club. Good Morning. Good Morning. Everybody TJ MVP an till. Ye Shall I mean the guy. We are the breakfast club good morning now. Let's get in some front page news. Starting. Well. Let's start with another hanging that happened. A man in Houston was found hanging from a tree, and according to the Houston police. They said he was a Hispanic man who took his own life, and that no foul play is suspected at this time now. His family did say that he was suicidal, but they are still investigating, and they are going to do a thorough investigation so. If! They think they didn't think at the time that there was any foul play, but I guess we will see what happens as you know. Everybody's on edge because they're nervous of what a what a challenging time this is! We did hear about two three other hangings, actually to in California and one in New York. As of recently the person in New York Dominique Alexander, and then in California Robert Fuller and Malcolm Harsh. You know it's it's it's a very very very weird situation, because I do not understand how none of these hangings outside are being captured on any type of surveillance camera. No surveillance cameras anywhere around these hangings like it's this weird to me. We live in an era where everything is on camera nowadays true. It nothing. We don't see a glimpse of walking somewhere like it. It makes no sense to me. All right now, let's talk about Reyshahri. Brooks and police have released the disciplinary history history for two of the officers and ratio are broke shooting, so officer Garrett will record shows a use of force complaint from September Nineteen Two thousand sixteen that resulted in a written a reprimand, the following year, and also several citizen complaints all with notes that no action was taken an officer. Devon Brosnan has to firearm discharges on his backward both entered on the record this. This month so they are releasing those records, and they are also are weighing charges for both officers and Array Shar Brooks shooting now raise charred brooks. His spoke at a press conference, and here's what she said to Miller's her name. There's no justice that can ever make me feel happy about what's been done. I can never get my husband back. I can never get my best friend. I can never tell my daughter. He's coming to take you. What's the women lessons so? Isn't going to be a long time before I he'll. Like, I said I'm just thankful for everything that everyone is out there doing it just asked say if you could just keep it as a peaceful protests that will that will be wonderful because we wanted to keep his name positive. Man Your mind from trauma man, I'm sick. Black people experienced in that kind of pain and I'm damn. Show tired of seeing black paint on TV like that I want everything to get the proper media coverage because awareness allows us to hold people accountable. We gotTA stop acting like TV's model isn't if it bleeds. It leads all his black blood. Spilling is good for cable, TV ratings and terrible for mental health. Let's how Perry according to the family's attorney has offered to pay for the funeral. Listen to this. Last week we do want to acknowledge and thank. Tyler Perry who we spoke with WHO will be. Taking care of the funeral for the family. He's GonNa. Take care of their children's college education as well. No Bomb Tyler Perry Goddamn. You all right, Jesus Christ all. He's doing his fan for funerals and pamphlet. Kids colleges when he doesn't have to salute. Absolutely all right now, let's talk about a police officer. Who did the right thing and she's now trying to get her pension reinstated. She's a black police officer Carrio Horn she was terminated in two thousand eight from the Buffalo Police Department. They determined that you use unwarranted physical force. She actually tried to stop a chokehold that white officer Gregory. Tulsky used during the two thousand, two thousand six arrests now They said it's important to look at that case now with a new set of eyes, so she long maintained that she only physically intervened in the arrest because she felt like officer who had to Caskey with listen to her verbal protests, and he seemed out of control with anger over whatever happened before she got to the scene of this domestic call when he didn't stop choking him, she said then I just grabbed his arm from around the suspects neck as part of and now she's trying to get her pension reinstated, and she said he then responded by punching her in the face. So you're tell me that. She lost her pension because she saved the life, she lost her pension, protecting and serving. Isn't that what you're supposed to do when you're in a uniform? Regardless of who the criminal is absolutely Nashville is. Absolutely, Yes. That sounds like the other police officer was the criminal. She stopped somebody from losing their life. She did her job. She protected and served as opposed to do. How do you lose your? Job Yeah. That's crazy, said that he was very angry, soaking somebody probably about to kill them and felt like she had to save that person's life, and now she doesn't have a pension anymore and she was wrong. It is important to look at that. And that was what fourteen years ago. Issues of the pension g lost a job. She should be able to sue. Yes, she should definitely opened his backup. Absolutely hell you that he did. He get disciplined for punching her face. I. Don't think so I mean I don't know. that. have their young lady on. What's her name Ashley? Carry Horn C. A. R.. I o. l.. CA, ca carry a horns, yes. Carry yards Porn, carry on carry on I. Don't know where she's from I. Don't know where she's you from we. Club buffalo new. York Oh see right there in Buffalo. Neo, we should definitely be able to get out. Are We need our underbrush club? We need to put some jumper cables on that story. Definitely some pressure we need to. We need to empower her. Give her a give her a voice. That's rush on on on them to get it. Get our pension back absolutely. No carry on. Wet Age. and. I don't know how old she is, but I know that this like I said this incident happened in two thousand and sixty was fired in two thousand eight. Yeah, yeah, DM US DEA grandchild, call email whatever you can to get in touch with as little funding. was. Do we have email? I don't remember giving email ever on this show, but but definitely call us at DM US on social media. My My my is to God, C., t. h.. Me On twitter, because I I'll see that before I see instagram and nineteen year veteran when she was fired, and she was only one year short of receiving her pension after F- tweet tweet something. Come on, we. We can get in touch with this young lady you gotTA. Have a family member that listens I hope this is her real twitter pays, but it's her name Carrio Horn, it says former police officer fired for stopping the killing of handcuff, unarmed black man spelling Tony. L.! uh-huh arrogance last name. or Okay I see it. You See. As far as I say, this is her. Website and all that for Newcastle. News, they have a change dot org petition also. Sign Oh yeah, let's reach out to her. Oh, yeah! She has a website code of silence police line. Do not call she. She has a story yeah story. Region out the Sugar Mama. Right now. She's she's been doing. She's been doing interviews and all that but. She's been talking about it. We're GONNA bring in interface face. Oh, five in an. Activist? She's definitely activists. By officer punched in the face for sixty five thousand dollars actually collected twenty thousand. Looking for Ukraine and guess what if we can't her pension back from the police, we can collectively come together and raise money. Hopefully give carry on a nice little lump sum. Sud- right thing she was sued by the attorney that represented for three hundred and three thousand dollars, because the PBA union was supposed to represent a, but they didn't, so she had to. She was sued for that. Oh, this is a story. You! Do the right thing in. August twenty eighteen lived in a homeless shelter. She was diagnosed with current ES D. What? Her hashtag almost sugar coating it carry on. Please reach out to us. We reach you right now to. Follow. I do not know how to use this thing this tweeter. All right people will. All right well, that is your front page news now when we come back. You WanNa talk about insecure guys. You know I do that is my show, and it was the season finale episode. They came on Sunday. I try to give you a day. Just in case you didn't see it when it first aired so I don't want. Give any spoilers out, but everybody's been talking about it on social media already and apparently Isa as you know in. Lawrence got back together. But Lawrence had been dating canola for a period of time, and now condole is back in the picture because she's pregnant. She, going to keep yes, this is not a good time. We're not even together. Why would you want? It's not ideal for me either, but this is not an option for me. I wasn't ready with mark this time. I WANNA keep it and it's not like I. Don't want kids I do so. This means you're getting back with her. No, no I told you I. WANNA be which Mr having a baby with someone else, but I didn't plan. This is I don't. I don't want this to happen and. You can be as involved as you want. Either way. I'm good. So, you see Condoleezza Him telling Isa and then back to canola wet. It's all it's all for. Because because I've been telling ISA's than season, one way of condoms, Isa Way Art economy just started having condoms on that show last season in this season, okay? Unprotected. Okay. What does the quest? Show all those years. Unprotected sex caused lawrence to have that baby. Yes, you should've. You should have written condoms until your character. Producer and creator not he says a character is not. He says his fault, okay. So, the question is should ease the stay with Lawrence. I mean look. He got canola prayer. He wasn't he didn't cheat. He did get her pregnant and now he's back with Isa. He doesn't WANNA be. We'll canola, but then I think there's always the fear. Is he going to get together with her? Because they do have a baby together and he's going to have to be in this baby's life. If you were, what would you do? This man is your soulmate. Your broke up got back together. Everything's fresh. He's he's the person that makes you happy, but now there's this bump in the road. What would you do? All Right Eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one, zero, five. One I'm guessing you're asking if you Isa Ray, what would you do right? There is the question Call US up right now. I just got crazy. DM. I hope. To hear as funny I hope a white man steelers, you poke as been tax on your co host. El. Wish co-host. SHOWMAN That's Nice I know probably me. But Anyway Eight, hundred, five, eight, five, one, zero, five one. What should s arrayed. Do call us up right now. The breakfast club good morning. Flach At your playing into the breakfast club up. Hundred Five, eight, five, one, five, one, the breakfast clerk. Morning everybody is the J. Envy Angela. Charlemagne guy we are the breakfast club. Good morning, nephew, just joining us. We're talking about insecure. What's going on insecurity? He has you know. Is the season finale and Isa and Lawrence I back together in love, but the only thing is during the time that they had broken up. Lawrence was dating condolence. She's now pregnant. Listen to this going to keep. Yes, this is not a good time. We're not even together. Why would you want? This is not ideal for me either, but that's just not an option for me. I wasn't ready with mark, but this time I. WanNa keep it and it's not like I don't want kids. I do so. This means you're getting back with her. No, no I told you. I WANNA be which Mr having a baby with someone else, but I didn't plan. This is I. Don't I. Don't want this to happen and how? He can be as involved as you want I really. Of Why? This is a complete spoiler alert for me. I did not see insecure this past, Sunday! I'm actually two episodes behinds on the season finale. Way Today to give people a day to catch up. Just in case, they didn't see it Sunday. We could have did this yesterday, but I said well wait a day. Question. So the question is if you were Isa. Do you think she should stay with Lawrence? He says he wants to be what East. He doesn't want to be what canola, but he does have a baby on the way. This may be too politically correct answer, but it's the correct answer s really on Isa. Because no woman is not, no woman is obligated to stay because I love her life got somebody else pregnant. She chooses to stay gas on her, but if she chooses believed s on her, too, because you don't Lawrence, what the Hell is you to be some of you? If you're eastern, what would you do? You really don't show me if I would. Probably will. Stick around I probably wouldn't stick around to be somebody step mom like he needs to handle his responsibilities, and by the way when you say in that moment to me I. Don't want this baby. That kind of shows what kind of man you are. You can't not want the baby just because you don't like the girl you hit that raw. You had unprotected sex with her. You shot her club up so now. You can't just say why don't like I don't want to be with child. What kind of Negro you so vow? These are probably walk vessels. What kind of character you, so you wouldn't stay with that man. You want a different man. Shut up eight, hundred, five, five, zero, five, or what would you do? You know it's interesting because I'm looking at twitter right now. And cassie said she should stay because their soul mates, and he never loved Gondola and Malan said the eastern should stay because they love they have now is undeniable, and if me, though I would have to wait, wait it out I. Think I would. Probably it would be hard for me to break up with somebody 'cause they've been together for so long. They live together broke ups. He's been wanting him this whole time. That was the one person she was in love with. But I would also have to take it really slow and not jump all the way in because that'd be a little nervous. I got to see how he acts. He was dating canola. He did seem to really like her. And sometimes a baby could bring people together, so I'll be a little bit concern, but I agree with you too on that into. That doesn't say a lot about Lawrence's character like you don't want your child just because you don't like the woman. As lame how? He said it wasn't a good time for him and listen I. Think men should. I, agree with that. It's hard, but he was being honest about it and I'm Lawrence. Type of person who will step up to his responsibilities, but I'm sure in his head, he was thinking how am I gonNa tell. Isa This I just finally got in a good space in my relationship, and now I have to jot this. And he just found out that moment, so that was his initial reaction, and so sometimes that's hard. He wasn't expecting it. Yeah I think it's up to I. Think it's one of those things you having a baby outside of their bond, and their relationship can make things difficult, or it could be okay. I mean it's just one of those things. Do you want to deal with that? You might be like hey i. don't want that stress I. Don't want to deal with that. I want fresh start, or whatever may be so I think it's up to whatever ISA feels is, is we? Just saying, what would you do? If, you, ISA said. I'll tell you take care of the responsibilities just because you ain't like. You didn't like that girl. Could you like the enough to hit it raw? You liked enough to have unprotected. Shoot our club up, okay. You liked it that much, didn't you? But where did you stay? Mate, but they've been together before, right? They've been together. They have history. Love each other, so yeah, I mean. Another woman's baby, too, I mean. But that's you feel so me. You feel that. They have some type of love or some type of bond. You know this is something that happened before hand. We've seen in their relationships before, so yeah, I mean. I guess I was day. Think about the way the union wasn't at the same similar together. By the way they took a break at that and I don't know by the way you're only like stuff like this on TV. Is Real life y'all be like I. How? You better leave his ass girl. You can do better y'all only like stuff like this on TV. You tell them girlfriend. Let's go to the phone lines north. Didn't while we gotta Rap Betty. Telling us to wrap up. Wrap, up five, eight, five, zero five, and we'll take your calls when we come back. Is The breakfast club Good Morning? It's topic. Call Eight, hundred, five, eight, zero, five, one. Join into the discussion with the breakfast. About it! Morning everybody is dean. J. Envy Angela. Ye shall mean guy. We are. The breakfast club nephews join us. We're talking about insecure. Just tell them briefly able we talking about. Yes, so on the season finale. Apparently Lawrence has gotten condole trading. Canola is the woman he was dating while he he ISA. We're not together, but now him and he's got together. A great space, but he had to break the news to ease that condolence pregnant. All right well. Let's go to the phone lines. What would you do? Eight, hundred, five, eight five? Oh, five one. Hello, WHO's this? Gary a good morning. What would you do? As Isa, and I'm saying. See now. Why are you staying having? Tell us your real life story. Her. Story, it's a long story. We've to get well. I was going to happen to yeah. Yeah Yeah I. I would him and I was pregnant when I got with him, and then we southall in, and now he's got from Al Pregnant. Wow, so you guys back together a leap of faith. Yeah. I'm thinking libra. Buffet I'm say we'll see what happens. Well. You can't be growing together. On. Your decision you people have to live with the choices that they made humaid. You're making a choice if it works, it works if it doesn't it does. She's taken a leap of faith that matter all right have a good day. Step, MOM, stop it! Hello this. D from Nashville Hey David Bill Good morning now what you do in this situation? I've been in that situation, actually Me and my guy was together about three years, and then we had a little high, and he followed the people I did, too. We got back together. We found out nine months later and it was a baby. had a will kids and HAD EITHER GONNA therapy. It was hard, but we stay together for a very long time. And now the baby's like nine years old so I'm a little older so I worked out. Yeah, we definitely out. From Hail, but you know. End Up. You know. You. Didn't you didn't find out until the women already had the baby? So it's not like you knew ahead of time, not didn't know entertaining She let him know. That, she had obeyed. He had no idea he was thinking like. Nine, but There was yeah so. Hard. Working out chastising MEDOFF having unprotected sex with other women. That was. That had to therapy about because it was light, you know. Like I'M GONNA be waiting to see if I have. A! Really hard. The first thing you do is go get tested. Yeah definitely so so that's the part. I was having issue with, but Yeah, we work it out and the child and all okay, so this hope for. I want everybody to know that raw is rare okay, Yampa just raw and randoms when you take that condom office opposed to be with special. Someone say that that unprotected sex is for your soul mates, Okay Jesus Christ and ladies. You know Yemen tease. The first thing you do is go get that test and be like now. I gotta go get tested 'cause you running around which dirty. That's the first thing we do good. Guys all right eight, hundred, five, eight, five, zero, five. We taking your calls. Call US up. It's the breakfast club morning. Your opinions to the breakfast. Eight hundred, five, hundred five. Morning everybody is DJ MVP End Leash Alameda Guy we all the breakfast club now. If you just join us with talking about insecure gives a quick rundown you. He Asks Isa and Lawrence are back together. They had broken up for a little while, but the only thing is Isa got canola pregnant a girl that he was dating while him and Isa were on a break, and now he had to break the news to Isa, but they are soulmates. Should she stay now? Chaumet say I am. I will say I gotta get dopamine and. That's not what I said. What I. said I said it sounds politically correct, but it's absolutely on Easter. That's a decision, we. What would you do if you in this situation? That's but yes. I said I don't I don't know. I probably didn't I I probably would not around because of the situation, but because I think that's shows how terrible that man's character is like. You can't just not be in your child's life, because you don't like the girl because she was good enough for you to have unprotected sex with she was good enough for you to have sex with her raw and shoot her club up, and now she not good enough to raise a child with what type of you telling girl. What would you do? I think that I would just have to take it slow and be really cautious but I probably if it was me. Because, we were on break and he was being on me. Try to make it work, and if it doesn't me to now, yeah me, too. I mean it's okay. That's my soul. Maybe broke up with back together. You did this and now break I. Think Might Stay I. Let's go to the phone lines. WHO's this? Is Monica Hey Monica? What would you do in this situation? Oh, I would totally leave, but that's just being selfish, because the reality is easily fought, so been things announced he got like put our heads down on what she really don't do. She has each year I. Came back she. was happened afterwards. So you're saying his Karma years what it makes you gotta deal with it. I went out I would leave, but I got desert being selfish but it. Was Broke K.. Blame them. There's nothing wrong being selfish. Though just so you know, you can be selfish. Sometimes, that's on you. Could be selfish I, know. I am boy, but in that case things I'm trying to be optimistic. All right, thank you. Hello WHO's this business? How you? I'm doing well and yourself now we're talking. Insecure what would you do in that situation? move with him to San Francisco and lay. Child support. You went to be around child though MBNA child's life. Yeah, that's what I said, but now you said pay child support you to say nothing about the be honest with you. He does have a good heart, so he does want to be around, so but I was still moving him. Go and he will have the baby when he wanted and then take you from. Moving to San Francisco because he's going to be a chance that he's not going to go, and they're gonNA. Get together to be honest. I got to Babysit now. You gotTa Babysit Him. Him because you can't just be all up on him because you're nervous that if you're not there what he might do, and Isa also has their whole own life in La. That's little. If I was young woman's father. That was my daughter I would encourage her not to do that. And like you up uproots your whole life, and moved to San Francisco. That got maybe one another woman hell, no, and how life works. You got your own thing going on. You would encourage your to do that as Jay Ono. She actually almost said that she will go with him. If you if you look at it, she we look why. With you. Know what she said was a forty five minute flight. If you remember the. She? Would you because he looked at her like? You will come and she was like well. Yeah out, she didn't tell you. But. I feel like I I heard her say it's just a forty five minute flight. Yes, right is. A! Clear. You guys thank you. Horn because that story moved me so bad. Like I'm happy. To reach out to her and help. Me Every Salvator instagram to resell instagram. So hopefully we'll get missing rate. Listen everybody. Somebody called in early and said it didn't happen to Gabrielle Union and Dwayne Wade. Notice, not Lawrence they know God damn t- way. Not No reason that is not no reason to be up and moving to San Francisco with Lawrence going to San Francisco to get one hundred million dollar contract to play for some team started about domain about these old mates bird. Your Burger Yo it's. Not about the money. and Dad. Marcus Jordan tweeted us what he said. He said. Has Anybody suggested that? Maybe they discuss the topic of miscarriages next season. Shut up markets we talked. You. Off Marcus. into it. Talking about right here right now. Eight months lines for next season. Sports back from office. This why you gotTa bring the NBA back right here. We need Wonka's arguing about who better Michael the Lebron. Miscarriages for. Six or seven hasn't even happened yet. All right we got room is on the way he. He has a segregated bt awards. They have made all kinds of announcements. It's going to be virtual this year, and let's see what you think about the nominations on all right. We'll get into that next. Keeping locked the breakfast club good morning. Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye. Shall I mean the guy? We are the breakfast club? Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk, NBA, please. This is the rumor report Angelique. On the breakfast club. Right well, we're talking about the NBA season coming back and for MBA players who choose not to play. They're going to lose one ninety second of the money. That's owed to them for each game, so they're going to lose that amount of money, so they said it's a higher proportion of salary than when players lose money for when they're suspended. You're I'm I'm really not understanding I saw Dwight Howard on CNN last night, and I don't understand why people are acting like athlete. Activism has not always been a thing why why they're acting like people live not always protested via sports like I. Don't understand why. Why they're acting like this would be a distraction. He makes zero sensitive. You can use the NBA to actually shined light on what's going on mall by just demonstrations by doing things like wearing I can I can't breathe teacher arts and wear black lives matters. You know sweat bands on your arms, whatever like you can bring attention to speak about it in post conferences you pre-game conferences like I. It's I duNno, whatever all right well. We'll keep you updated on. What's going on with this NBA season? You see the WNBA is coming back though at the end of July also today definitely one quick question. For All the brothers who say they not going to play in the NBA who aren't going back to work because that is their job. Are they going to be? What are they going to be knowing that? Ain't gonNA. Be Lies The social justice movement whether it's protests whether it's you know finding people who are on the ground. What are they going to be doing in turn? I duNNo. Less and Kyrie. She still beginning, though because he's he's a, he's out with an injury, so he's still will be able to not play, but still get paid all right now. Let's discuss why mccray was trending this morning and it's because he was having a conversation. We're past Lou. Giglio and also chick-fil-a. CEO Dan Cathy about race and the church. This conversation happened on June fourteenth, and this is the clip that everyone's talking. Talking about you understand the curse that was slavery and say that was bad, but we missed the blessing of slavery that it actually built up the framework for the world that white people live in and live in, and so a lot of people call this white privilege, and when you say those two words, it just is like a fuse goes off for a lot of white people if the phrase is the trip. Let's get over the phrase and let's get down to the heart, so let's get down. To what then do you want to call it and I think maybe a great thing for me is to call it wight blessing. Living in the blessing of the curse that happen generation, really that allowed me to grow up in Atlanta. He's a white privilege was a blessing. A little differently. Call the blessing. I mean it was I've never looked at it from that perspective, but I'm not white. Would you know you're lying if we can't see why a white person put think white privilege was a blessing. You take. Say we act like Satan doesn't have kingdom to yes. Now the person that. I haven't heard the whole interview, so it's hard. Sometimes people take a clip and they post it, and so it's important for me to see what Lacrosse response was, and what he said after that to go and watch the whole thing because I people are upset at the CREPE, facility there and nodding his head while this conversation was happening. I have not heard interview. I didn't even hear about the interview. Tila got here this morning in here. We got on the show this morning, but I would definitely be watching that interview later because it just looks interesting on paper loughrey talking to the CEO of Chick-fil-a. I would that wasn't. That wasn't a decio chick. Floyd said that was the pastor. Who is who is? Yeah well that was Louis Giggly a I think his name is Gig Leo said that. You gotta understand why he would think white privilege was a blessing. They got four hundred years of free labor. Okay systemically they just get treated much better in this country there at the top of the food chain and every statistical category. Of course he would think white privilege is a blessing I right now let's talk about the twenty twenty bt award nominations, so drake has the most with six nominations, and then meg the stallion righty rich have five each ambience Nicki, Menaj Chris Brown Lizzo, and the baby have four nominations each other all be hosted by Amanda Co so that should be interesting. Shouts. Man Drop bombs from God Damn System Man. Jason Smart Funny. It's also going to be airing on CBS. And that's the first time that's happened, so it was simulcast alive. Of course, Viacom networks like bt and bt her, and it'll be nationally broadcast it on CBS on Sunday, June, twenty, eight to Amanda Cereal. Absolutely! That's what seals does you never been to a smart funny and black live show, and you have no idea how much of a beast Amanda. Seals is when it comes to hosting something like that shields she she will body. Body! Gestures from her stand up. I'm sure this'll be very well done and put together. She's a perfectionist. Bt has also unveiled the lineup performers that includes Alicia keys, chloe and Halle. The baby d smoke Jennifer Hudson John. Legend Jonathan McDonald's came Brown little. Way Meg the stallion Roddy read Sir. Summer, Walker, usher Wayne, Brady and more so how? Are they doing to intimate. Virtual virtual, what are they doing in one building, and then no crowd and the air. It was going to be you know everybody doing it from their different Zuma different camera. Do We know that yet? I have no idea yet. He did not say parents. Jerry and Erica ash are are hosting the first interactive pre show with celebs, nominees and special guests also yeah, I'm shocked on that. This is going to be virtual and only reason. Soccer is going to be virtual because everybody's getting back into being out. I would think that they would find a way to do this the same way they would do a sport probably. No crowd just doing no audience, and let let Amanda thing. I think that'd be. Probably don't Wanna fly places right now. Then you gotta bring. People out without audio Nazi people all over the, but they're moving around. An La opened back up filming a TV production. I think on the twelfth. I think they started getting back to. 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Him and they're like this is the best mix envy's ever done. My brother, that is fine that Solomon who you given that donkey to? we need the good system Dini lease to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a war with her. Please all right. We'll get into that next. Keep a lot this the breakfast club. Good morning, warning, everybody is. Envy Angela Gisha the God. We are the breakfast club. We have a special guests on the former right now. Live from the White House. We have the attorney online the morning King Of the goal. Favorite now what does this executive order that that trump is signing today on police reform, so I'm in Washington DC for two reasons, trump signed executive board didn't. Some things that we asked for when I say we as a people. For. A comprehensive. Police misconduct bill not only from the White House, but from a local levels in from from from the White, house the one that trump plans to sign the day includes a national registry of cops with a federal registering where they backups. Transfer from department to Department. you all remember the case. Anton rose seventeen year olds. Three times in Pittsburgh. He was shot in the back by officer who transferred into his apartment the same day. THEY'D BE TRANSFERRED IMAS Warren. Rose. So. That's kind of. kind of database would be allowed departments to check that and have that information available to them before they swear and bad cops. you have a another component major component commute I believe we in in Charlotte and actually the whole breakfast club. Last time we spoke, we talked about how the war on drugs leads to so many officer involved shootings because they have mission of going into the city and killing people and take them to jail. The executive order will transfer. Resources to help department. so that we treat poverty, homelessness and addiction as a sickness with social workers, people other than guns. To reclaim health issue, it and mental health issues of course I was mental health drugs in poverty or a deadly. Combination, but the resolution to that is not more guns. You need more services to those people so the executive board with the resources services. To meet the needs of individuals and communities. and and there is. An additional resource or police officers To be honest, the rest of the bill is is is. What they call one dressing of fluff, but it had some some key elements that I think that that would benefit on immunity. I will take that conversation. to the Senate immediately following meeting at the White House will discuss. More substantive changes to the communities and fighting for. Last week. Saying this is the opposite of defunding the police. Honestly. I don't think Donald. Trump understands the executive. Order himself much. But it is not the opposite of depending police. It's not providing additional polices Muna resources where it belongs but we can't depend on all the solutions and the White House. Away House doesn't have control of the Great. Bill purse strings. The troupe is gonNA come from the legislator and that's why we're meeting with the Senate immediately Baldwin now. You're going to be speaking at the White House today. Will you get a chance to talk to trump? Will you get a chance to pull him to decide? Let me talk to you for a minute. We will. We will a major component of it was concerned about. Bring myself and a lot of the families. I represented the White House for a photo right because that would be beneficial to the trump campaign and we'll do very little. So, we arranged private eating mooring with the family of myself. Roundtable no cameras. Be Able to talk basically, basically trying to buffalo nations, but these families are listed major issue. He's awesome about this morning. Honestly I think this all comes back down to the war on drugs, I think trump in in the war on drugs executive order I think is executive. Order can go a lot further for example legalizing marijuana, or or or taken out of the schedule eight drug category. Most, of the arrests drug wrestling, we see our low level quantities of marijuana. The vast majority of police work. has to do with low levels. Clumsiness Withdraws Fivers. Police work has to do with anything violent. Thinks that we that we expressed concerned. About what what do we do? If the cops are on, you know someone breaks in your home. well, it would allow. It would free up police officers to do. Vote on things like that and move. Move the fight for billing drugs in the streets to people who actually have the skills and resources. That, I'm bringing family. Jefferson and Ahmad Arbor's family and they they get to talk to them about their personal experiences. There's so much corruption within the legal apparatus that that it's regional threat. It had the federal implication. I we have more with attorney Lee Merritt when we come back to the move. Is The breakfast club morning? Morning! Everybody is DJ envy. Angelie Alameda Guy we are. The breakfast club was still kicking it with attorney lead merits. He is the attorney representing the family of Ahmad Aubrey. He's at the White House this morning, Charlemagne. Li I. See people upset that you are. Going to be there set that. They think trump's going to politicize it which I'm sure he will just like any politician during election year is this executive order were few being there and speaking in front of trump, and I think we're going to be there as well right William Bar will be there. The President of Apple PM store that he plans to fill the room with a lot of loopholes, so very members of police unions, etc.. and these are the people that are killing us. These people who are promulgated policies that have led to chaos communities eleven hundred best By then violence alone? In the thousands of people who were killed in other ways injured CETERA. so yeah, these are the people that were it. I, don't I don't like. It? Because these business these are the people that great the policies that are targeted art community. Yeah. We need to talk to them. We don't need to be nice to them. You need to tell them the truth and so it's not a up time and say you know there's not a time. Pat Them on the back and celebrate what they have done, but they need to hear from these families that their. Injured and devastated. Yeah, I think that's very important for those families going and express their pain. I think they'll be over expressed their pain on any major platform I. Mean it's No big platform than being at the White House oh I would love for them to go into titles. Devils today face. You know what I'm saying how they feel about what's going on in this country. And and that's exactly right when we're bringing families from really. Across the intersection of America we have Djamil. Rogerson the security guard. You know the guy with a gun that they all should love right because either in our egg that. Is backed by a police officer after stopping the mass shooting. We're bringing one one. UN team Denton. A student, his father was a chaplain or the local police department. He was hoping it could become a police officer. From a mental health prices due to a head trauma, the suffering in a car accident, and they and they didn't know how to deal with mental health. The local Benintendi know how to deal with mental health, so they shot them to. but these are people that they when they say back the blue. You gotta ask what about target when they say you know all you need a good guy with a gun. You have to ask what what about you know Roberson and they will have to face these people's families with their children with their mothers, and I think that's going to be a heart. Is it takes the politics out out of the reality of how dangerous? Leasing isn't American all right. What are you? What are you going to be speaking about in the rose? Garden because they say yes scheduled to speak in the Rose Garden. What are you going to be speaking about just bad, but we live in daily lease culture in the modern world that there's nation kills her incarcerates more of its citizen visit the national crisis and genocide that we have to do something about it. That the executive order begins to take steps in that direction, but we must go much further and Lee, please men don't bite your tongue there and you let them know systemic racism exists you let them know systemic racism exist in the police department, and until we can just mechanism of white supremacy. NOTHING IS GONNA change in this country. Don't Bite your tongue Lee. All right well, take you for checking. Only appreciate you making. All right attorney. Lee Merritt is the breakfast club good morning. The Breakfast Club. All the guys. The rumor report Scott. It's the rumor report with breakfast. The SOB Simone wants to fix the issue she had after she was accused of plagiarizing a self help book. So a couple of different authors have called her out on social media for copying and pasting other people's work for her book. Baby girl, manifest life you want. Here's what she had to say. I've never been author so as influence her as a creative as entrepreneur me and my team outsourced, we hired a team that we trusted, and they did a lot of things without my knowledge in I. Am here to fix it. Reach out to every creative involved, and even though I feel like the people are hired in. My team dropped the ball. I'm taking full accountability because at the end of the day on the leader I'm the CEO. Does what salute her marketing abilities 'cause. We've been talking about her for two days great. Her name for the past two weeks great. To her and promo she getting see us. Oh, detailed in a catching for the video like most creators I the team to help me with the details, the graphics, the wording, the arrangement of my book. I trusted this team of individuals. Take my vision and translated into what I. Had I hoped to be a map towards manifestation have reached out directly to every content creator that was disadvantage, and I'm doing I can't fix this issue and make everyone whole well. How many people you need to write a book I mean you know I'm a new. York Times bestselling author I wrote a tall. Total. Just me and my God Christmas roll like. Look Chris Chris Romanian and Chris I mean I right? Like I actually right so I made people with jobs easy, but Chris. Moreau helps me to know flesh it out. And turn it into a bookie book I guess for her. She's doing right. And they put it together and you know a lot of people sometimes have a book out and don't even know what's in some of the chapters in their own book. Ridiculous. I felt when you read a book. I thought the whole lot day. Even if you have a ride as you talk to the writer and drafts, and then you approve it. That's how it works I. Mean That's that's the way you should do. It I mean some people sit down and they do interviews for their book. You know what I mean, but Angeles point if the rider takes the liberty of adding some things whether it's just information or something to give something more context if you haven't read it and you're going to be lost. Like Yvonne. She's doing doing her book right now and he's been writing her own book, but she did it all herself. She was a that was a mission. And then you know I've been writing and I've been kind of doing everything myself, and it's not an easy thing to do so and no matter what you'll get, you'll end up getting an editor, so but yeah so. All that drama just happened for her I. Right now since we've been talking about insecure all morning, so while the sees it has. You can listen to a new podcast looking for the Toyota. Now if you watch insecure, you know there's a show that they watch all the time on television that they're very into. And that's the name of the show one now it is a podcast. Listen to this the following. Documents the events surrounded by a missing persons investigation. This investigation was conducted by family friends a bit as police department. And Myself. Rose cranberry, who is not a journalist by any means. This is. Looking, for l'Etat and they were a lot of guest appearances on looking for Letroy on the show. says it was on their Terry. 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Remember the best. We in Vegas. He was on the Bachelorette. Right if I'm not mistaken. Mike name is Mike. Mike, what his name is Mike Yeah he'd been to the breakfast club. Yes. I like Mike, but not much envy likes Mike. Envy likes might shut up. Right now. The Oscars have been postponed to a later date because a corona virus, so they have postponed that from a I it was from it was postponed from February Twenty eight to April twenty fifth, so this is the first time that they have ever had to move the asker as it was a since nineteen thirty two. That's when they've been started doing it so now they've moved it and it's never happened before so so different and now. Lee Daniels said that he originally. Did you know this was the director for brokeback mountain? and. Now. Now interesting now. Trying to be funny nationalist Lee. Daniels was what. He was originally the director for brokeback mountain. Couldn't. He couldn't get the movie May because nobody wanted to see the movie. He said it was a very expensive piece to keep and I simply couldn't get. The movie made an eventually. You know and leads it and he said he couldn't watch it for fifteen years because he couldn't imagine any other filmmaker doing a justice. Eventually, he did see the movie and he loved the direction of it. He said He. He did it in a way that was palatable from many heterosexuals around the world, and then brokeback mountain went on to win three Oscars, and that included a best director well, it's not too late to direct broke Black Mountain. Okay, now a good time. You know what I mean. I'll guarantee. You can get that made at any studio in America right now, but I know guys I work with star in it. I'm not a cowboy. I'm just a cowboy fan. act. Mike and work to I'm sure. Cowboys I can be a cowboy fan broke. Black Mountain let's go LE- LE-, let's go baby bro Black Mound! Let's go. Cowboys versus, giants. Who? Clearly to cowboy the bottom. I right well, that is your room a report. I'm Angelie Outta. We get him I. Don't know man I hate you guys all right we do. We do. Bro, Black Mountain right now. Be a good time I'm not getting on. No horse remain talking about. I'm. I'm just saying you. Could just be a remake? It could be a remake. Radio Personalities No. I'm not to data cowboys. You've gotta cowboy to black cowboys. Indirect about Daniel's. The world wasn't ready for that back. Then they ready for it. Now Lee Grad degrees them up and to get them ready. Grease them up right there. You go all right. I'm not GONNA say well. All right well revolt. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Everybody else. A people's choice mixes up next, and today is to pox birthdays. Your favorite pie joint will get it on its the breakfast club good morning morning. Everybody Dj Envy Angela Yee Charlemagne Guy. We are the breakfast club. Good morning now. Shelter early merit for joining us this morning. He's speaking at the White House today at the Rose, Garden because Donald. Trump is signing some executive order for police reform, so I can't to see how that goes and a lutely Daniels. Figured out the whole new movie for Brokeback Mountain. No! She suggested who she suggested Star and Actually one of our producers assume suggested little Nasdaq's. Little now is actually be amazing. brokeback mountain to remake of brokeback mountain since we found out early that Daniels was supposed to direct the original fronting on him back in the day because he was black, so you can start with broke black. Nice, aaagh that he said it was just too expensive to get made, and nobody wanted to see if they are that just try. I'm just trying to make Hollywood guilty they remake. But broke black mountains, darn little knives X. would be amazing needs coastal. I don't know who is close to I would be I. Don't think that we should typecast. Somebody said Frank. Ocean I don't think that's correct I. think that we should get a heterosexual man. The Play A. Black Cowboy. While we'll be gone back mountain anyone. Andy Beside I. Don't remember I did see. I, don't remember. Seeing him in my life. I've never seen brokeback mountain, but I remember one time we was on vacation was in a in Anguilla I. Love Anguilla Sloop, Island Anguilla got elections coming up and we're going to watch moonlight. Baboon light was restricted on the island. I, let them the just moonlight so I thought about the other move any thought about any other movie. I knew that was about gay people so I would say oh, brokeback mountain, so I went, that was restricted. Next thing I know Netflix took on this whole rabbit hole of gay cinema in every single thing was restricted on the island. For. I'm saying I've never gotten the chance to watch brokeback. Home Right now. This time, so you can watch a couple of all right when we come back. We got the positive note. Don't miss the breakfast club good morning. Morning everybody is DJ. Envy entity Ye. Shall I mean the guy? 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Miraculous Womb (w/ Justin James Hughes)

Just a Tip with Megan Batoon

1:03:15 hr | 1 year ago

Miraculous Womb (w/ Justin James Hughes)

"This is a head gum podcast. You don't know how we doing as a speaker. Yeah Yeah Yeah what are. They played this type of music and escape rooms. Oh that's the worst. Have you been in an escape room where they play music like that. No it makes me so nervous. And that's why they do it which also makes me nervous and get nothing done. You'd be solve includes I'd be dancing. Okay let's get get into this. I'm really excited for loved the fully artistry of that SIP of coffee. It's IT'S A. It's an almond ladder. The details don't matter. I gave up milk. Good for you here. I'm GonNa explain something but let me welcome you. I welcome to another episode of just tips and advice podcasts. That's equally about its tangents. ACID is about it's tips. I'm rose and today we have a repeat guest. Yes this is where we would. Have you know the sound affects the sound like well. I just be like that movie. Like the kids going Okay but now you just imagined it and it's fine. So here's what happens when we have a repeat guest. Everyone listening because it doesn't happen often and I think you're probably the second person to come back. Well thank you for having me. I feel special. You should here's what the deal is from this point forward every guest that comes on that's already been on is going to have a dedicated topic so I've chosen a topic that works well for the guest and we're going to answer As many as we're going to answer as many questions as possible from instagram stories instagram. What they want to know about self improvement and self discovery great so I have Justin Hughes here to help sound off but you can talk? It is a podcast letting you do your thing setting it up the time cocoa I was wanting to I was in my head. I was like doing corrector on the Justin James Versus Justin Hughes. Do you need to be three. There's a Justin Hughes. That's a gay youtuber now. Now why I mean I I for a few years. I mean he's probably always been gay but now he's Youtuber Schiller so Justin James Uses here. Sure Okay let's get into it. Usually we play a game called Bursa Firsts and now that you're a second guessed a secondary guest really secondary second time second time belittle me now that you're a second in time guest. We are flipping the game on its head and now it's called flash of last show flares. Thank you it's the same questions but instead of the I it's going to be the last time you did everything from your first job to your first public cry. It's going to be the last job the last public crack. It's usually I stopped asks for liberation or more details if I'm interested but even if I'm interested I can't stop myself. So how fun is this. So Fun can't fuck and wait. Okay here we go. What was your last job bartender at a catering in case last cellphone iphone eleven? Throw Rag last pet civil last. Kiss location on my mouth. No you said the last time. Where were you I don't remember the when I kissed. Somebody intimately Okay I can't I'm interested. Kiss my friends. Hello on the lips. I kissed emslie. Hello the other night where I guess At a sound bath last major purchased jetzt Bro last choice and a Carrio Hiba last choice. Yeah Oh anything that involves talent like Celine Dion Bray last Internet screen name poll dirty Hughes last thing. You think when someone doesn't answer the phone oh I bet they're busy and that this has nothing to do with me last celebrity crush the last when you would ever choose the most recent promotion Emma Stone fucking just last concert. I'm sorry for your loss of Opportunity Fest Concert Papa. Roach coach last scar last scar on my back I sliced my back pretty bad on my friends kitchen cabinet handle. Oh okay last thing you do when you like someone spit on them doc. This whole ads kind of confusing last show. You Bench watched that'll be easier. Oh the good place last. Excuse accuse you make when trying to cancel plans. I just don't like you last time you cried in public is cloths that counts. I wept watching clouds. That was not in public Less than credit in public with people around. Oh I cried. When I was in Oregon I was at a bar and me and a lady had a really good deep vulnerable conversation? We both just sat there crying while like embracing each other at at a bar and Portland. Wow that's how it ends all right. That was delightful nice. I can't ask any questions but I'm glad that you were affected. I was deeply very good. Well now is the time that we turned to instagram and try our best. We've never done this before. Thank you for being my i. I guess that does instagram. You know I figured if you wanted to try something new you'd feel safe with me feel comforted. Just glad I can be your superman man really self self given title. Thank you okay so you can ask people questions I asked everyone. What what they wanted to know about self-improvement self-discovery here are some questions? It's so cute when your friends answer is that that never happens to me. You're like all the things actually being a part of blue and it's not like a joke. They're not doing the inside jokes that you could reply to the story and be like. Oh Ashley you're so funny it's like these are like real real actually actually no. I don't have a friend named Ashley Nude Anymore. So that Rashleigh Ashley Okay. ooh This one's a good a good start down by the brook underscores as journaling for self discovery when he had to say about journaling for self discovery I would say. Is that a question. Well let's go into it if someone's never journal before. What are the tips of journaling? Well I did just watch a masterclass by David sedaris and he talks about writing in his diary a lot. And what I've gathered is to you. Just write whatever right. Whatever is in your brain in your heart get it out onto a page and then that will one help you? You deal with it and then two if you WANNA go. Fourteen fifteen more drafts later you could submit it to the New Yorker David. His masterclass is. There's a lot of writing in a diary because a lot of direct. The one part that I do like about it is that it was a little redundant but like he would show the different drafts. And he's like this. This is my thirteenth draft and it was like better. So it's fun to see how it can improve. And I think journaling I remember doing something called the artist's way workbook. Okay have you ever heard of that of donate. Yeah I'm only half of it and I was telling a friend about it at a party the other day and he was like that seems about right. What does that mean that I don't finish? I'd have no follow-through you know I mean everyone's like Pretty Gung Ho about it and then by the hat by the halfway mark you know. I'm fine. It's a lot of work you know what it is. I think you start feeling better and then you stop doing it because you're like oh no longer in my shit anymore. Oh so then you just stop doing it but then you don't finish what you started a and then that's true. I wonder if that's was. I've also started the artist's way numerous times. I've never finished I. It seemed like you did the way that you were surprised when I said I didn't finish. Oh you didn't finish because I was like oh me either but right right but you didn't WanNa be on my you want to interject you. I see but in the artist's way they say journal for Thirty minutes a morning. I don't think they say that what they do. I think it's like ten minutes. Three nature's way no way viewers listening home. Could you please check this and find out who's right. Leave that comment in the comets minutes I will say this about journaling I've gone back through old journals and I don't like reading when I have the same the problems that I had five years prior and I'm like Oh still dealing with this same crap right. I don't like it well. That would be the worst that means you have not. I wouldn't say it means if you haven't grown but you're just like I haven't gotten over this yes and not really hard. I saw something online today. It was like a Buddha Buddha instagram account. And it was saying that you're not letting someone off the hook by not forgiving them but who's really on the hook if you are still holding on. It's it's like oh Oh no resentment is like drinking poison and hoping the other person get sick right do that all the time all the time. It's so hard to to not. Yeah I think when you're really hurt you hold it you hold on to it. I don't know why I don't know if it keeps US something about your. Yeah I don't know what is your subconscious. I feel like your brain can rationalize it and let it go but your subconscious holds onto it. And I think it's it's that to keep you safe factor. It's like this person. Hurt me in the past. It doesn't want that again. Yeah and I think your subconscious it was like I also read this quote about Like when negative thoughts are like when somebody's negative to you it's like they hammer nails into your wall and so yeah you can remove the nail by like the walls still got holes in it. Oh interesting yeah. I never heard that one before. Yeah I feel like there's another instagram so many instagram accounts. Yesterday I was looking for ones. I like pilates memes. Because I just wanted to be seen and heard and I wanted the laugh with people that were like minded and it was really hard. There's no really good pilates means I'll start doing pilates. And then you can read some memes together. But there's an account called artistic writers and they take screen shots from movies and post them with the captions of whatever's going on in the movie. And there's one with Robin Williams and it said the things that we fear the most have already happened to us like That's why we live in fear. It's because we've been hurt. And we're like the shelling up we have our armor because of it but we don't we've already gone through it and we survived him thrived afterward. I was telling someone out of party which this is hilarious like party topic but invite me to parties. You'll get this type of conversation but I was like I feel like the question I asked was. If you could change something about the human species. Well what would you change and somebody was like. Oh I would change. I would take away jealousy another person was like takeaway. I would improve memory. So you sound like you'd be a riot at parties lay casio you just as good questions and I want you to come. I would be like this person isn't about about small talk this is. This is so cool. Yeah chips L. S. all night all night kettle cooked all night baby but I was. I asked that question once we were talking about memory and and how faulty it is. It's because like every time you remember something or you try to remember something. The memory gets hazier and more nebulous. That it's it's almost like doing a disservice service yourself by trying to remember because you can never trust memory. We have so much emotion attached to it. That's changing the picture and I was. I think he was time therapist is to is like my memory. is like a crossword puzzle. Different this theory that I have I think twice in the last week I just had it. It's a big revelation but I think memory is like a crossword puzzle so it's a big grid and then all the black parts aren't that they aren't there. The Glock parts are still little squares that fit into the great. But there's covered up so once you lift that little black rectangle Black Square. What's really under there? It's we just can't see it because has its blacked out. Because it's so painfully report that's been redacted classified or they've edited parts that you can't see yeah exactly I what's it's interesting too because it's like you said you can't trust your memories. You can't really trust your own vision either because you don't see things as they actually actually happened. Your brain is the one processing the light being reflected into your eyeballs. So it's not that I'm just seeing the light coming off your face. I'm seeing the light coming off your face wall. Also my brain is remembering all the times we've had together over the years so it's like I'm not just seeing you. I'm seeing you as a person mixed with with my memories. Mix with emotions a whole sensory. Yes oversight realistically and this I talk about reality a lot because there's not One reality there's seven half billion people on the plant. They're seven and a half billion different realities going on and sure you somebody else might have like very similar realities all these but they're not identical. No that's crazy when people are like no one's like you and everyone's like yeah then we're all not unique but no one has the life the thoughts the emotions known. Has Your time line of anything. No you can't fully relate to anyone we're all unique in. We're all the the exact same in that. I know it's nuts. It's crazy okay. Did we help with the Journal and Journal. Okay let's see so this is about self discovery and self improvement. There's a lot of questions that are not based off that so I'm kind of trying to sift through them becoming your own person vibe. Underscore Hoffman us about becoming in your own person. May we can take that in a way of of if you're in a long distance relationship or long distance long-term relationship and kind of getting out of that in finding who you are or just finding who you are in general. I think it's a lot of things I think for a lot of men in America it's getting out of Your Dad Shadow Getting out of that. You know your family's idea of who you should be stepping into who you WANNA be. That is such a long conversation. I feel like we could talk about that for five hours. Because the way that we are is all condition like nature versus nurture. It's all All nurture the only thing that's natural to us is community feeling like we want to be a part of something and feeling belonging. That's all that's inherent to us. Also were afraid rid of falling and loud noises. Yeah those are the two inherent fears. You're born with cool loud noises in how'd you on that. I felt so baptism by fire. You didn't read it. No no no. It's actually it's actually true. You can google that okay for L.. Somebody told me I was at a ropes course and it was like huge logs. And you're doing stuff and Yeah you're the danger. Yeah that makes sense sense. Yeah Yeah do we answer that question. no I don't think I could last five hours and I think it lasted five seconds. Well there's another question right next to it from Stella underscore ma saying finding myself while still in a relationship and I think we can probably link those. Yeah link them together because I think becoming your own person is yeah getting out of what has been put upon you by what your parents have thought on their own or multi generational learning what their parents said was good or acceptable and so we're just kind of receiving sifted opinions by people. We've you've never met because it's just like run in our our bloodstream and our our lineage that I feel like it's really just getting away from what so you were taught as a kid I take I talk about repainting and learning all the time but I think that has a lot to do with it if I didn't move over seas overseas basically kind of overseas but if I didn't move to California from Florida I don't know if I would be any different but I feel way more me way more comfortable now with doing all of this self exploration by being so far from my family for being single for so long. Yeah Yeah doing it. Wall law in a relationship is interesting. I'm not saying it can't be done. But I feel like a butterfly. I goes into a cocoon when it changes from Caterpillar Right. And there's nobody you can't be with anybody else in your cocoon. Yeah while you're precising. You have a better word kooning. And there's been times where when I'm going through a change and something's not feeling right in me any one hundred percent half to be alone to sift through my emotions sift through my thoughts to make that change of. What do I want from myself right now? Who Do I want to be in this situation? And it's easy you know. I think separating all relationships not just a Intimate one but sometimes you need to take a step back from your friends and be like joy still want to be friends with this person is. Is this person helping me become who I WANNA be. Can I help. This person has become who they should be instead or who I feel like they could be living up to their potential I think the in the relationships offers a struggle. If the relationship isn't helping I don't WanNa say it's hurting but just just maintaining. That's not the friendship that that you want and I think would I've been realizing lately as there's certain people that I can go to for certain things like on the most surface level of explaining this. You've got a hype friend. That will tell you anything that you want to hear. You have a friend. That's kind of pessimist that you don't ever really want to go to unless you're in a bad mood. Misery loves company. So that's kind of the more more extreme version of what I'm Ben going through but sometimes if I'm feeling something specific I can't go to some of my closest friends because they don't know how to be there for me in the way that I need them to. Oh yeah parents don't know how to be there for me. No I need them to and it's finding the people who can be that Eh for you for sure who you're too. I think you're one of my go. To's I think that if I needed to just be able to say something in be we heard and not judged for it or someone's not trying to put a bandage over at. I've got some friends like that. And one of my parents is definitely like that because they just want it to be fine and they want it to be okay and they don't want in her and it comes from a great place but they're limiting your healing by trying to fix everything for you and so when I come to you with problems. I think why our friendship is so good is because I can say something and you and I will both ask questions to get more information to help process it. A lot of friends are verbal herbal processors. And if you don't let someone talk and if you just go it's okay or that's crazy. You feel like that. I believe in you so much if you're being really insecure it's like it's not about how you think of me. It's about how I'm feeling about myself. And how you can help me navigate these murky waters but for you to like try and clear the path author or send a boat. That's not going to help me learn how to swim and sometimes you just need somebody there to to say. I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah and that sucks. I can't imagine what you're going through. Those are the things that you need to say. I was having a tough time the other day and I I want to Justin and I was like this is all I wanna hear. And then that's been like our for a bit win. Something really minimal goes wrong. We say those three lines that sucks. I can't imagine what you're going through. Can't imagine it's very fun so I think our answer for this is like just take. I hate the time alone and that could be a good time for journaling. Oh wow are we gonna thread like a nice. That would be really cute together. Oh that's so so funny. The next question said most people don't prioritize alone time with our thoughts make time for it. It's not really a question. They're they're on Yup good job. Good Yeah let's see self-improvement self-discovery this interesting shade. Dot Lay seven asked about being happier unloving her name. Okay well its own se les being happier that's grand rand absorb. What was the thing being it just as being happier like any tips on being who I got I would love to feel this one? Go for it I think happiness is overrated. I think happiness is one of your four or five core emotions depending on which four five you believe in an inside out we've all seen inside Absolutely and I think letting happiness be your northstar. Let happiness drive the boat. All the time is hundred percent wrong. I think. Enjoy those moments where you're in disgust or you're afraid because they're telling you something and I think happiness shouldn't be what we're striving for I think passion or vitality living a life that you wanna live that you want to jump out of bed for in the morning even if you're jumping out of Abed to go fight a fight that you don't like the way the world is right now and you're like this is what I believe and I'm not happy about it but I'm going to go do this and I think there's moments there's pockets of just pure happiness and they're just little bubbles that float and eventually they'll pop but happiness can't last forever. I mean it would be boring if it did. It wouldn't be happiness would just be base level living. Yeah that becomes. There's a new base and then you'd have to find an even it. It would be like a drug right gateway feelings via happiness is a gateway feeling happy. This is a gateway feeling. I feel the same. I feel the same way I'm a I was a huge proponent of only being happy a couple years ago it was like that was all I want it to be and then when I found the value. You feeling all of your feelings and being a well rounded person because we aren't just one thing everything started to make a little bit more sense the sadder you got the more space yes you could have for being happy it is like. I think that we're going along with what you're saying is listening to your inner child in in that kind of the same as being happiness being the Northstar to being happier. I don't know if it's about being happier. But what are a few things that make you happy. This is a question for you in actual life. Yes just stopped. I love nature. First first and foremost I love doing things I've never done before. I love going places. I've never been before so for me. Exploring I mean even aspects of my mind and consciousness consciousness wherever I get to explore. That's really bad for me. And that's what I absolutely love. I think that's really important asking yourself what makes make you happy. And maybe even writing a list of those and ensure when you feel on happy or when you feel like you want to be happier do one of those things if you know what makes a happy be Justin or makes a happy shea. Should I lay seven. Then then do that for that. What makes me happy? I love cooking cooking with friends One of the masterclass episodes Massimo he says cooking and act of love. And I think it's real fun to to be able as long as your friends are also kind of good cooks. 'cause that's really frustrating when you can't you can't but yeah cooking with people I I like traveling with with friends and I'm really like traveling alone or I mean rather traveled friends than family. But yeah I mean I think also doing building stuff. That's why I love. Diy so much make if something is super dirty. And I'm in a good place to clean it. Oh I love cleaning I love cleaning. I like it I I like relaxing. I like learning a lot so if I can learn something new about myself or others. Yeah so good rather learn about people more than I would want to learn about the world which is probably why I'm bad at history. History is tough for me if I could learn about history and get the diaries of George Washington. All these people I'd be. I would read those diaries easy. 'cause like I talked about this all the time so much more than accomplishment. I'm not not impressed with accomplishment. I'm impressed with how you know yourself So I really WANNA get deep. That's why hate small talk and frank has a diary. I should read it. I heard it's it's a page Turner. Yikes you. You did mention something about inner child and I feel like we a Lotta Times Cuellar. Inner Child in your inner child. I don't think ever grows up. He lives inside of you but whatever major inner child happy. That's what's GonNa make you happy and I feel will like you get to be responsible adults to let your child play more. It's like you have to be both totally. Yeah it yeah. It's like your inner child. Who was your soul really wants is the steering wheel but you as an adult are the one that's filling the tank So without the drive drive. You can't get there at all such good metaphor without the gas. You can't get those real real good. Thank you so much. Welcome yourself thank you me. The next question comes with Chelsea underscored gene underscores in this group. You know instagram out of people on it. You GotTa do all these things underscores how to feel that. You're exactly where you're supposed to be. You have to honestly honestly answer are you but the thing is you are you already are right. I see it's definitely double edged sword that question and it's where do joy line between accepting where you are where you are and then being like I don't Wanna I want to be here. How do I get out of here? Absolutely I mean the first thing the first part is just taking a mirror to yourself and understanding where you are. That's the self awareness piece so oh but I think that it always starts there. You're supposed to be in place even if you don't like it so that you can be pushed to move in a different direction. I don't I think there's a supposed to I think Knicks that I think you are where you are like. We are sitting in this room. Are we supposed to be here. I don't know but we are do. Do we want to be here hell. Yeah I was like on enter. I I do Yeah I think that's supposed to and there's There's been a bunch of people that have said this over time it was in the avengers endgame. thors mom says to him. Everybody fails L.. Who they're supposed to be and I just think supposed to such a bad phrase it? We should really knicks. That's fascinating because if you think about parents having kids they want their kids to to be exactly what they want. They want to raise them to be a doctor or lawyer or whatever it is married by twenty five whatever whatever it may be and yet with our free will and being chewed ourselves. We're always going to be different than what somebody wants us to be. So I guess the supposed supposed host you part of it is different by who you ask. Yeah hundred percent yeah. Also it's like if you are listening and you're you're going to raise kids Raise them and guide them to whatever they WANNA do and help them become who they want to be. Don't try to steer them based off of your shortcomings or failures. That's it that's so and burn it so so important it's also when we were born. Our parents were so young. I I took a screen shot earlier today. There was an article about a parent of three CEOS one of them is a CEO of Youtube. One one of them is the CO founder and CEO CEO of twenty. Three and me and the other is a really renowned professor somewhere and they ask the parents what they did to have really successful asphalt children without trying to push them into whatever they wanted to do and they said to make it easy to remember all walks of life I call these values trick. Tr I C K and I was like. I'm not gonNA have kids anytime soon but hopefully I'll have this phone what I am thirty five. 'cause then I will remember this if it to the cloud. It says t's for trust respect Independence collaboration and kindness with all three of these parents of CEOS. I told them trays. One parent one parent had three different. CEO Children yes and this was womb. That was this is the Those are the values they also said that they never talked to the children in a baby voice. They talk to the children like adults from the moment that they oh absolutely and from zero to five. They tried to teach them everything they could. Because that's when the brain is the most spongy yes. They didn't use the word. Spongy that was me. I like sponges very accurate but I I agree with you. I think I'm just so glad that I didn't have kids before I did all of this. Inner work because I would have absolutely. I mean we're GONNA mess up anyway. That's human I don't think so. Okay but at least it'll be so much more aware and for their own good versus acting out of fear or I didn't have or would I it mindsets and write all that which I still deal with all the time. That's for another. I think it's nuts is. Is there a way to raise your child how to where they don't have childhood trauma based I don't think so I think it's GonNa happen no matter. What if he even? If you're the best parent there's going to be something that you did on accident or that you don't even remember that your child is going to take so personally and start their story of why they're not good enough unless you have a parent that's just like hey. I don't know that I've ever heard apparent say this but like I. I don't know that I'm going to be doing everything right. This is my first time being apparent raising you. We're in this together This is what I want for you. I want you know you to be smart and empathetic and have a good heart but I might make mistakes. Just talk to me about it when they arise totally ever feel hurt by me please. I WANNA have that open line of Communication. I've never had that. That would be incredible. I think that would solve all of a lot of problems as for sure. Yeah so hopefully hopefully let me know what happens whenever that happens. I would love to hear well if you're not around like being an aunt to my parents. Oh I'm going to aunt. Yeah Oh my God the home videos and the garments. Yeah Oh my Gosh Aunt Meghan these. My sister always said when she has kids she's GonNa make them call me. Auntie em like from wizard of. Aw please don't do that super cute. I'M GONNA do it to no no no hang on folks we're GonNa take a short break. 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I couldn't finish sentences. I couldn't think of anything and by at the time my challenge was over I was writing. Great love letters just feeling so in love with myself Alf and Horny hand in hand but like it was a really good practical challenge for me to do that. It helps you. Focus on the positives. Yeah I really love that. My practical advice would be to do this. Kind of visualization that I do every now and then is close your eyes and take a step back and then tell yourself that you've this kind of grim but it'll be fine that you've lost a lot of your memory and you don't know who you are and then when you open your eyes you start looking at things around the house in trying to decide who you are based off of that. Usually I like to do this after. I've cleaned my house because if it was a dirty house that would suck but make sure how clean and then start looking at the pictures on the wall the CDs you have in the nineties. The what's on your tunes. Whatever it is and just start? I'm trying to understand who this person is. And then usually since you've bought all of these things and you like all of these things you'll start going. That's cool taste. Oh I like that. Oh this is a really nice little chair. And then you start to love the fact that you've created the surrounding for yourself and that you start to see your tastes and have a little bit more gratefulness for the things that you've surround yourself with or if you do that in visualization and you don't like anything that's around you maybe you're like a hermit crab outgrown that Shell and you get to find a new one absolutely. I think that's really really important in. This is GonNa to be a surface level analogy but when you decorate your house and you have a really specific style you grow Out of that. It happens all the time in a lot of times. I hadn't wanted to get rid of things because I spent so much money on it or at the time. It was a lot of money and it works perfectly fine whether whether it's a dresser or chair or something like that but you grow as a person your tastes change and you have the opportunity to change whatever you want to serve yourself or to make yourself feel better so don't hold onto things just because you spent money on it. Don't hold onto things because even if it's like a sentimental final thing if that's gone take a photo of it put in your hard drive. You don't need these hard copies of your first boyfriend ever you don't. That's not where you are. Why are you going there? Yeah I agree that too harsh. No I think we have this weird Culture Murray hold onto a lot of stuff both emotionally and physically yeah let go it's a scarcity mindset again which I have. Don't we all a little bit though. Gosh this username Cami was was fluffy penguins on no okay. I did have a speech impediment what I said Penguins so it's actually penguins. Yeah I actually like Ping Zoom's got to do with it. It was hard because of all the other letters This one just self esteem quick on self esteem. Because let's try and get you a lot men men I mean this is kind of the same thing with the you can write love letters to yourself self esteem self esteem confidence kind of all goes hand in hand. I think I think confidence and self esteem. It's not just one thing I remember signing up for this this program and they asked. What's the one something that you want to work on and I said low self esteem and confidence in? It's not one thing. That's I think. The umbrella of all of the all of these things generally being alone doing things for yourself being. Nice yourself writing letters to yourself. I think it's it all depends on that the one thing that was practical about that program they were saying to keep your word. That is really really important. So whether it's making a commitment to a friend or telling someone that you'll be there at at twelve o'clock being there at twelve o'clock don't be there late. Don't don't give yourself the opportunity or the option to not stay true to what you said. That's what they said would help. I don't know if it's true. I don't know if you near experienced you've seen if you keep your word feel more confident but it's really just it's not breaking breaking a promise to yourself it's it's holding yourself high enough to give the respect of staying true to you. I think for me one of the biggest things that helps with self self esteem and confidence is doing challenging things right like if you aren't finishing something that's challenging. What do you have to be confident in? Confidence is a byproduct of your abilities. Right and the more things you can challenge yourself at and finish and do the stronger. Your sense of confidence is going to be like. I can do anything if I put my mind to it and you could say that but if you actually know that based off of evidence I didn't like Oh. I didn't know how to do this but then learned how to do this and I'm good at doing this. It's like pick up an instrument and learn how to play really well. I get really good at something thing doesn't matter what it is coating even all the kids in the coding these days you know this I mean that was like how we were Brad on my space. We're all being a little. html held all without absolutely. I wanted my team Yet just get good at stuff. Whatever interests you doesn't matter but when you're good at things things and you know you're good at things yourself? Confidence in your self esteem will improve. I absolutely agree. Sometimes I played beat sabre in. Sometimes it's really hard and then I'll just choose a different song or go slower and I feel really good about it Taking you're very eloquent speech just diminishing it to video game beat sabre. That's he's such a good game. Though next question comes from Sandy Julia. She says overcoming fears. ooh whatever your go do it immediately Absolutely I don't know I think for a lot of people just getting up on stage at an open mic for stand up is as I recommend it to a lot treacherous absolutely but like the worst thing that could possibly happen is nobody laughs and then you walk off offstage like or such a heckle you and then at the end of the day. You're still fine. I think I think it's so good but I mean that's a lot of people have fears the public speaking and being judged in front of a crown so that's why that's always might go to But yeah whatever it is. You're afraid of just it just do like. I was deathly afraid of sharks. I watch shark week every week. Growing up as a kid wasn't shock. We just had it on repeat vhs so me and to the point where I would close my eyes my swimming pool and then Oh yes. It'd be transported in the ocean. I would think sharks coming to give you. Yeah Oh good. We just making fears ourself for rain out of nowhere. Yeah we'll have enough to be worried about. We pretender sharks in our pool. I mean we will. Now it's an. I used to go in the ocean and be afraid that there were sharks out there and And then I asked lifeguard or my buddy asked a lifeguard. He's like so Any sharks out there and the lifeguard goes. Yeah it's the Pacific Ocean so then you went and swam in so then it was just like well. We wanted to swim in the ocean. So it's like you got to pick and choose like your fears. Come with whatever territory you're in and you're either going to accept that those are there and face them them or go do something else in let those fears go. I think that's part of a risk in general. There's there's always going to be fear involved. But what's GonNa lead did you. Are you GONNA be lead by fear or by love or curiosity sucks a lot. Fear will always always be there. Yeah you want to do. This is a interesting topic because I feel like a lot of what we're doing is offering advice right are we. I think we're just talking. Yeah 'cause people can listen or they can't. This is like Whoa. This is our experience. I just want to preface it with. Yeah this is all we all is not a I'm not a guru. I'm not as self help. By the way there's a lot of like self help gurus on instagram. Now I feel like everybody's trying to hop on the bandwagon of like this is what you need to be doing. And I know some. That can't pay their rent and yet they're online offering advice. It's a weird time for like self-discovery. Yeah really really interesting. I think I think everyone knows that. No one's an expert. That's on this podcast. Yes we're all. Just try and just do our best. That's all it's about. Okay let's see skokie asks about negative self talk and self sabotage skokie how did you what was your biggest tool for overcoming negative self talk. Oh Man I'm trying to think I can't I mean it still comes. I remember you. And I had an analogy. A visualization for all of the voices in her head and what. I don't know if we talked about the last time. You're on the PODCAST. But thinking of all of your inner thoughts like a town hall meeting. And if seen gilmour girls or parks and rec they have town hall meetings. They're sitting me city hall meetings. Sure sure yes they do that. I see it as Gilmore girls because I love that show but seeing someone as the pessimists and someone the optimism someone has just the annoying one someone as the crabby person and knowing which one you're going to listen to but just also a hearing that voice inside of your head the knowledge that it's there is huge. Yeah yeah he's GonNa try to shut the negative talk out because it doesn't work no it'll it'll keep popping thank you just have to hear it and then decide not to listen to it. Yeah Yeah I agree. I have a voice in my head all the time. It's just like kill him and I'm like we're not doing that. Okay just stop I hear you yes. That's an option pitching to kill this person all the time all the time. I don't know if five had a a biggest tool in doing so but I think when I think negatively of myself I will will either ask why. I'm feeling like that asked myself. Why are you feeling insecure? What's what's on the table? What are the actual facts? What are not? It doesn't take the feelings out of it which is crazy for me because that's like my whole thing is feel everything but if you take because feelings aren't facts. What can a camera see camera? Can't see your feelings what's actually going on. You can only see your body and how physically attractive you are thinks camera asshole. I think. Just look let knowing what's quote unquote reality and what's not in your brain. Yeah Yeah I think just again asking questions asking your own brain questions questions of is this true. Is this true or is this their because my mom said this to me and my dad said this to me. My ex boyfriend girlfriend whoever. Yeah into the seat and Mrs what a grew into exactly finding the source in realizing that. That's not it wasn't you that was doing that we've been any quicker. No okay we'll be okay self discovery and self improvement self discovery self improve. I like this one a lot. Lydia Banff twenty-three US how to be less defensive offensive about little things that's a fun one Maybe you should feel this because I used to be really defensive I think slash ams the two of us. You're the more defensive I and I don't know why I was defensive. I think maybe it was because sometimes I fell not good enough and so I I was taking everything like an attack versus just at face value of what someone is saying in years. The things like when someone gives constructive criticism or negative comment on Youtube. Sometimes they're just shit people but sometimes they have something to say and sometimes if you kind of dust lost off all the dirt of how they're transporting it there's goods underneath that you just wipe it off and you go. What are they actually saying? What can I take from this and use news and why is it affecting me? Yes because if it was on there was no basis in truth at all. It wouldn't bother you at all right so if you're getting defensive about something it's maybe maybe because you're taking it in a way that is kind of hooking you in part that hurts and so and usually people for the most part aren't trying to hurt. Are you there just saying something and it triggers you like yesterday I was at. Oh my God. I was transported awarded to being so offended. So I've got a complex around Food A lot. I don't want to tell the whole story of why this is a trauma but it's it's is a part of me that I it's very sensitive is around food and so I was at a restaurant yesterday eating with to my friends and we ate pizza and potatoes in salmon carbs and so the waiter comes back and he was like looks he got he said. Looks like you guys really enjoyed it and I was like Duff Duff. Tell me what I enjoyed just because I ate my food that I'm paying for and I'm hungry and I'm at a restaurant. Why are you have to say that? And I turned to my friend and instantly. She looked at me. We'll all knowing look because all my close friends really know about this complex and I was like. He should've said that it was like a whole thing. He was being nice making small talk trying to do his job but like it. Hit me in a way that was like should I have not eating in the should've gone starving like I have always felt like I was is. It was horrible but all that to say it's never about the person I mean. If it's usually about the person but like sometimes you have to look inside and go. Why did that bother me? And then know that that's where you need to start for for the work. Exactly that guy didn't know what he did he still doesn't. He's he will never know. He's still unless he listens to this podcast. Okay let's see. This is a fascinating question. I know I keep saying that but the ones that are catching is fate. Mall showoff asks six. How to differentiate between who I think I am and what everyone sees me as an interesting question outfield it? I think who you believe you are sometimes is less valuable than how other people see you and by that is third party perspective makes things real like if you're the emperor and you got your new clothes on and and you're walking around naked thinking you're hot shit because you're wearing like the coolest clothes but really everybody else knows your naked. Then you're naked. Yeah so if everybody sees it you are great. But there's the voice in your head telling you you're not you're great and you get to stop listening to that voice inside your own. Yeah I think that's really well said it's funny because it's spinning on its head of don't care about what other people think but which is part of it but when you're the only one that's voting against yourself You should care about what other people I think. Yeah and I think that happens a lot. I sometimes I mentioned previously when when friends are like. How could you even think of yourself like that because I see you as X Y and Z really high? And it's like well I don't feel like that and I'm not saying don't don't push away that you don't feel like that's something to explore but at the same time know that you're putting yourself in that position to feel bad or that something that you could work work on to put more effort in attention to because when things don't add up or a line unless you're being completely different than you actually are which also is about? Yeah but yeah I do. Think listen to others when they tell you how great you are. You're great you're great okay. Maybe one more. Oh it's got to be a good one go with a banger. I know we just talked about being defensive but I think this is really really helpful. So Jenny Kozak asks how to fight without getting defensive. And we can end on this one because I think this goes with communication which. I'm sure we'll do another communication medication topic episode but I think fighting. I haven't fought in a long time because that's like a relationship thing like I haven't been romantic antics so long but maybe this'll be good because we've been single working on ourselves for a long time so that we can say if we were in a relationship how how would we fight the cow to fight in a relationship and I know this will probably have a relationship pod to but any fighting in general is are are two or more people not being understood. I think finding a just coming from being misunderstood in. There's a certain part where you have to know that you're going to be. He misunderstood and then offering up information to help someone understand if we are both so interested in understanding being the other person versus being understood. I think that we will all be more understood absolutely. Yeah what was the question how to fight without being defensive. Well you can't you can't fight without being defensive so like the way you phrased it whoever as that inherently wrong shifted to how to communicate disagreements without getting defensive. Maybe Yeah Yeah and my question is I've been in situations where the person that I'm trying to communicate with is either really. You closed off or ease defensive. So if I'm not the defensive one if you're trying to meet someone who is defensive. There is still a defense ants. I think this I do enough self work so that you see you know your triggers. You know where they stem from. And if you do enough self work you can see that in other people when you see. Other people. Starting to get riled up over something you see them getting defensive over something. It's Kinda like you're able to see the matrix tricks and you're like oh they're acting this way because of this and the more you're able to see and understand their behavior the more you're going to be able to use different tactics to show. Oh them and get them to your point of view otherwise you guys are just going to be again fighting which is not what you want. It's so hard because because I feel like when you are trying to get someone to be on that level with you but they aren't equipped for it you you kind of have to walk away because there's not what wait. I get easily distracted by dogs in. There's a dog trying to climb up into my lap. Hang on yeah okay. Speak to him like an adult. That's a good dog if the other person isn't equipped to meet you there you kind of have to walk away for a little bit until they can do the self work. It's not your job to do other people's self of work but if you do enough you can help someone. But if they aren't the same there's nothing you can do. Yeah in all goes back. We've set a bunch but asking questions. I think asking them questions you know if they get upset with something you do sometimes just being like. Why does this upset you so much? We'll don't say it like that. That would set someone off somebody. I said that to me and we are in a fight and I guess if we were in a tiff well why is this important you like. What is it about like this particular thing that I'm doing that upsets you? That upsets you so much. I just feel like like that seems really pointed. I feel like maybe maybe I should go everything but I think you could still get that to them by saying please help me understand. I WanNa know why what I did is affecting you so much so that use it. I WanNa know why what I did is affecting you so much and I said why is what I did affective. Isn't it the same thing. No it's like you just like shh like pounded rockstar before you started talking. It's not the same thing you guys. They think when you're dealing with maybe delicate people Be Delicate I think I think Stoicism especially in times times of conflict is so amazing and so helpful. If you can just tell your emotions right the second you feel like you're starting defensive you feel that like build up in your life or you. It's bubbling and you sense it. You're able to be like okay. Take a deep breath realize realize you're getting upset. No this about yourself at like something's really upsetting you and even if you have to excuse yourself for awhile to like gain some perspective active. Do that absolutely. I think. That's very important is being able to walk away from something and anyone interrelationship in future relationship. Let the person go let let them go. Do not keep them there when they don't want to be because that's going to be in like ultimately the worst thing that you could do the reason why we feel these sensations in our bodies whether it's like you feel your arms tensing up or your shoulders refill a lot of pressure in your clavicle or or if your fist actually become infest infest your hands in fists. It's because our like all the way back to Caveman Times. We feel threatened and our bodies and fight or flight mode. So if you feel attacked that's because your body is gearing up to actually physically fight the battle for you so your body is thinking before your body's what he's acting before you can really think so. Pay attention to what I just said was and they showed brain. Scans of this. If somebody questions your your ideals the exact same thing happens to your body your body goes in a fighter flight mode because it can't differentiate your body being attacked versus is your ideals or brain being attacked crazy and that's your identity your ideals identity so of course absolutely justin. I think we crushed this. I think we did pretty well. I think This podcast makes a sound like very developed. So I I do think we are better developed than when when we met with better be that was almost a decade ago are journals a be so different than back. Oh my gosh. That's so great. You know going back to the journal thing I remember. I have a friend who was in Bruce Lee's house and he got the flip through like Bruce Lee Journal's got to where he just did secretly you know he was invited But he said one of the craziest things about Bruce Lee's journals was there is never anything negative the venom and I don't know if he wrote his negative thoughts in a separate book and just didn't keep all more like rip those pages out and burn them but his journals were nothing but like like positive memories and lessons and I think that's brilliant. I think too often times will focus on the negatives rather than and we'll keep those versus tearing amount burning them doing whatever you gotta do. Let them go and stay focused on the positives absolutely it will the negatives could he maybe did journal all those but turn them into lessons So all the lessons started as negatives but what can you glean from it. That can help you. Yeah I started doing that after her. That story the journal that whenever I'm having something negative I'm like what's the solution to this and then I journal the solution. I don't journal the problem. That's cool. I really liked that. It's a cool book. Read it riveting read. It's a book it's your book. Your are you calling your journal book. It'll get published. Where can people find you on the Internet if they want more of Justin James Hughes his horn dot com slash? Jj H no. What if that was real? Oh my God that'd be terrible twitter dot com slash shoes. I never use it. I Never Hughes it. Don't they don't you. There is a game dot com slash shoes or just in James Hughes Dot Com. And you can also find me on the just the tip. PODCAST ruled food. You listening to right now. Yeah you have been on two episodes who episodes go on my old one. Go find the old one if you guys have a sticky situation or burning concern. Call us at eight. Oh five five seven five one nine seven one you give us your age in. We'll give you some pretty developed advice. In our opinion say sticky situation. That's right and and then age. Because you gotTa make sure I think age makes everything easier in what capacity I think. Not to over generalize allies age but I think depending on different areas of your life. Things are different. I think that's accurate. I I just think it's easy to go. Oh if someone's having a tough time in their seventeen versus their twenty three it's like Oh you learned a lot in that amount of time in your if you haven't hit twenty-five yet you still. You'll have time but I think from five to about twenty seven. We get real stupid like you ask a like a five year old a question you get the answer. Simplest on point you get what you want and then we really complicated with hormones and emotions motions and then we finally learn how to deal with it again. I tried explaining optimism. Did I tell you this nephew so somehow it comes up. My nephew's like what's optimism. He's five and we're explaining it to them and we're using the analogy. You know glass half empty glass half full and my nephew just goes but either way there's water in it. Oh and I'm just like Oh my which isn't from your nephew. I can't wait to have one of my own and thank you for coming. And if you had child or nephew a child adjacent I really want children but not right now but like tick tock doc maybe I'll become a babysitter just scratched that edge. Couple years couple years copiers. All right guys thanks should be alive. Stay alive still alive guy. That was a hit gum podcast.

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Drawn To It Podcast - EP 57 - Sergio Martins Supervising Animator on Klaus!

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Drawn To It Podcast - EP 57 - Sergio Martins Supervising Animator on Klaus!

"This episode of drawn to a podcast is brought to you by cat animation. Online arts school offering their students high quality mentoring by experience professionals animation story design and much more at very affordable prices beginning and advanced classes am slots for the spring semester of twenty. Twenty one are forming. Now don't miss the opportunity to learn and grow from disney trained animators and artists constantly working in the animation industry visit. Www dot cat dash animation dot com for details about their unique school. They're distinguished faculty and how to apply for future classes or mentoring. They look forward to working with you in the near future. Hail welcome back. Everybody were here on monday with another inspiring guest. Today i have sergio martin's he's worked on clouds and a whole bunch of other two d projects. He was a supervisor on clothes. So that's pretty impressive. Right here on tron to a podcast which gets into text textbooks in the corners making any brings clay of a snob. Doesn't matter how you create so First question where you're from so i'm from. Portugal froment very close to spun. I was born there in a place called cash cash which is awesome and i leave the few years in lisbon and a late terry. Porto in portugal. But now i've been leaving in madrid for the last coming years already. Four or five years time slice and growing up as a kid was asked was animation very accessible career choice. Not at all. I remember so i all we. I always loved the nation. I'm gonna probably say a lot of times. We because i talk about me in my twin brother edgar okay but to so and so used to everything i did. He was part of. It is to say we were to animation. But if i say that. I'm talking about my brother tehran. Gotcha but i wanted to be in any matrices very early since I was around eight years old. But i knew that it was gonna be probably never gonna happen at least not at the level dipped to. I'm grateful that any meeting with because portugal doesn't have any industry at all and doesn't have didn't have cools so it was. It was not the best career choice. I guess yeah and you probably were your parents super encouraging or they were they more like keep your keep your head out of the clouds and focus on real potential jobs so my mother was really supportive. She's very. Let's say more like a dreamer. Yeah he's more like a okay. He was very supportive too but he will always say okay. You try these or if it doesn't work you have to try something like architecture or something sheets drawing some how but they both let me and my brother that at least tried ended we were lucky enough to start working very early on but today twitter risky looking back now. I don't know how they how they were okay with it. It seems such a risky choice. You know yeah for sure and when you're learning when you're starting to learn what does that look like for. You are going to the library and just reading everything you can. Or let's bear the first emissions. I was in my computer with windows. Ninety eight something really like there wasn't a softwares. There was some trimmer the name but they could put like little pictures to read the pictures every for fred's ohio. I would draw eight legally in vain move things in print and then seat in for frames and it was horrible. Of course it just award a but that was my first trying Later we were very lucky that there was a class in lisbon. It was a normal high school with mathematics. Portuguese everything normal but they have clashed with any nation in a specific. How and that was when i had the first time to ask my parents like can i go to school. Which was farther away. Had to pay a little extra for the transportation of but it was a high school scher and they were like a trite and they accepted us so we learned very basic like the twelve principles. All that's done but to Does the beginning was completely what built us. When we've yeah. I school we were during the ultimate the level like we professionally but we had Basics it was very helpful. And in that high i find that amazing. We had nothing like that. We had cooking sewing. If you're lucky you got you could take mechanics like we had high school art but it was all very basic like painting with those hockey puck shaped watercolor painting. Giant brushes. thirty years old. Right wasn't fantastic. So i i'm very jealous of of that being a high school option Very surprised how this happened in portugal. How the yeah raleigh. Someone in high school that was passionate about the nation and was like. Hey i want to give this opportunity. There was nothing in portugal look college. We've animation nothing. These was the holy glass and we went there. And were there animation studios in portugal or were in there are in they are actually saying there's no industry but i mean like in the commercial side of it because it alter films they are yup indiana awards of last year they were the best short film was a portuguese Portuguese director with co producer From portuguese ended french too. So there is animation there is. There are two juice but it's very few people. Entities cadre colin. To artistic more author starts of any mation. And it's not exactly what i was looking for because right said different tone. But there's a lot of talented Are a go doing very well in order to just the different scifo animation. So how do you bridge the gap you take this course in highschool. How do you take that next level of training. Where where did you go after that to. To bump up your skill we were teacher of animation was doing some commercials for cereals and stuff ninety. We were lucky enough. May rather to be called to be tuning nothing to his house. He was a freelance editor. Right and we were working in his house do in detaining and the it was the first time that we started actually learning. These was still paper. We beg bars with like old skill and to. I'm pretty sure we were very nine to these animator. He was authentic unfortunately best oil red but We were every day as console widely into this. How do did what does this mean to was awesome. Did he gave us the first steps and then late boy. He probably found excitement in. Your excitement probably reminded him of himself. Learn right yeah see. Yes i believe so. At least i we were maybe overexcited. I would not save if it was the right level two right. We learned a lot. Still i remember at the time looking at. I don't know at the time was in new. Grigny aries hey these and the says you come those a couple of years not actually around that time with dr doppler and i remember thinking forget about it. There's you this is not ever going to be. We don't have enough information. I don't know how these he's done and probably will never know to. As in my brain. I started accepting that. They'll be just any between ordinary mater for tv. Show or up. Until i was lucky to have interdict sheep in romania in his to join romania which is a bit like a weird the change of direction. Yeah you know what though that would be kinda. I've always wanted to go to romania. Because there's a few towns and villages that are so medieval looking in like time never touched them kinda thing. I've always wanted to go and look at that in person and the closest i ever got. Was you know whatever disneyland made right to give you that. Feel right so i. I would think there'd be something. Go ahead you understand where. He's got the influence because totally totally. Yeah the as sleeping beauty all of that stuff. It's romantic yet and it was really good but the internship itself was really bored because they i realized they got me just because they get a like a free something from the governor asked to turn jobs from other countries and they put me in a chair like sitting in a corner and they were like okay. Here's the laptop. Do your things if we need. You will let you know for two weeks. I was really like oh cohen. Mike going to stay here for three months. I already wanted to go. But the richard williams book there was a few books and i started reading the first Like disease interesting. And then when i start going to he's explaining to call these nail that stuff in nice start understanding. Oh wait a minute. There's something here is not just a normal bukowski to preston. Blades bright deeper. It's more technical. And then i start to the end the this those three months completely. I was obsessed Twelve hours a day minimum than you think we could any change the to gyms everything so okay so you're sort of on the self directed learning path In the internship because really they. They've brought you in. You're just there to fellow on their end to fill a space paperwork so they get their taxing right. So you're sitting there you've got all this time you start animating. Learning how to animate is one thing but you also have to level up your drawing ability the draftsmanship to it what what played into that too. So that your animation principle knowledge goes up but also your draftsmanship. How'd you do both at the same time. Debt sexually the place. What i struggled. More is the draftsmanship it's I never because any making for me was much more exciting Had to learn how to draw to a demane. It was never her that. I wanted to learn how to draw but to what i did because i couldn't tell it will. Actually i. what i started doing was a very simple things almost stickman figures but they had fled. They were fleshed out but the drawing was not at all. I was just letting animation and i was intimating almost New made to guy playing drums sticks but the the companies was Realized okay. there's potential here. And because of that i started looking into. How does gyms boxster droughts held the glenn teen and tried to copy them the drawings that money interesting and but one is still to this. Day is something that i struggle with destroying go see had. That's that's kind of upsetting to hear you say that because your stuff. Draftsmanship is so high. I mean so many of us look up to that. We're like oh my god are so great and then you're like still feel like i said i don't think you'll ever indies feeling. Yeah but to be honest. I'm working with sergio pablos next to me. So you compare yourself with. People are dead attire around you and your miles away. The absolute working out miles complete. so that's why. I say i have a lot to learn how to draw completely but the it the first desktop animation. The trees that i was not drawing very well. I was just trying to get information technique to see how it works at least was the best idea. Actually i would advice even yengeni maters to not spend if they want to might the drawing not so good doing very simple drawing almost like circles in stick figures and you get the technique which festered right technical savo when you animate now to use still here that high school teachers voice in your head like oh i wonder. I wonder if he'd like. I'm doing right now. About sometimes y- remember legal things. Not that i. I m thinking oh he told me to do this not that for example when i do shifting trace over the of a joined i remember him telling me like he would cut arts of paper. He would like take the paper when his animating paper one on top of each other and you draw cut dalil pepper droid and then move it around in sticky to the type to the between najim party non-action thing you know he would do. And sometimes i think of that stuff. It's funny that yes because it's going to be there forever. I guess i remember. Yeah we never forget our regional mentors. I still think about mine constantly. Every time i draw. If i if i nail something i'd be like oh herald would be proud of me. You know and it's been twenty years president. It's daily there and other teachers. It was another one for drawing on the same high school. And i do think about their stuff a often. Yeah even though i was indeed the information was good enough to have some praise and seventy seven but my brother was always the best one in the drawing glasses by far. Yeah she was disowned. So would you show on mir stuff or very guarded with it and be like. It's not ready yet. Don't look yet kind of like the kind of because it's inevitable. That's he had to see but it was not easy to there's always it'd be tough shame. Well i mean hey it all paid off your your top echelon talent right now and your work. And some of the coolest properties at a time in an art form and at a time when that art form is sort of on its last legs compared to twenty years ago buddy. On a few years ago. I really thought i was when i got to go from searchable economic a male. I was actually learning tree the too because there was no to the end. I was like okay. It's done. I need to go now. Do some marketing shots entreaty andy. I feel so grateful that sergio sunday mail in them doing this. Because and i don't think the yankee maters get they have. They are in a lot of young animators. they are more. What's the word Like the like it's for free. You know they don't understand what it is to not have this production people get out. Well i mean their ability to learn is instant now with their phones the internet and so many every example they could ever want is a ten second search away right and i it. Sorta take some of that I don't know there's this struggle. I feel that animators who came up twenty years ago or before we we would have to go to the library. Look for book photocopy. Something maybe like you were saying with the shift and trace i. We have a photo reduce drawing up but yeah there was a whole struggle there that really in britsh the appreciation of the art form appreciation depreciation. That's the word. Yeah yeah. But i mean that being set because right now if you go on instagram right now i guarantee and i'm saying like i. I really look up to your work. Okay but if you go on instagram. I guarantee you're gonna find eighteen to twenty year old. Who's almost at your level. Need to tell me man. Yeah and it's just. It's like what is happening. They just they are at that age. I was not. I didn't even know that the nation was it like the i learning bouncing ball and and these guys know every week every out artists. They they know everything. They know how to the truth to dna mation for example in a project like clouds. You get a lot of young talented animators and you can see the act form if someone likes to be there are really passionate that there's no kind of middle ground. It's not like i'm just doing these for it's because they stay really love it. That had been doing it for its but Twenty year olds. That are like there's going to be invive anyone. Well i was. I was i was talking with a nineteen year old. Who was trying to organize their portfolio to get into sheridan in ontario canada for animation and their entrance portfolio for just for consideration was like the top of my graduating class would have been at right. Yeah and and they had no confidence in it. Just oh i remember. There was for example. Two very young animators in clouds when sand and another. He spent some cabinet and bed in. Betty's from i would see what is want to say. Drunk is from forgot Somewhere in asia. They are drawing us they. They are like miles from the to take ten years for the normal person to get there and and they are humble about it. It's it's once again. I hope they appreciate how much so many people behind them in. How much technology is helping them and take not take it for granted you know. Yeah yeah well like as a as an animator that that's one thing to look at another animators Work i guess but as an animator and a fan of animation. I appreciate somebody who maybe struggled more in the beginning and and got to the level. They're at through the Just keep trying to try. You know that blacksmith. Just hammering away at the iron right and there that really makes me appreciate. There are because knowing that okay. Maybe they didn't take to it right away. Maybe they really struggled to understand. And now they're they went from way over here to way over here and you're like wow maybe there's hope for me so was feeling debt because i remember listening to nick podcasts. From the Break the red cross brothers lois. Two years ago actually heard also your podcast him. It was interesting to was very cool so humble about this stuff. But he's quite a bit of a troublemaker. I guess the the rebel of animation to his postgame like seven years ago or something and he was saying that to somebody like jim boxster just heavy. Naturally they are just yup genius or something but he didn't. He had to struggle in go through all the steps with a lot of efforts. And i actually make me feel much more relate to relatable related to feeling. I don't have it. I thought it was something you had to have an idea and listen. These artists deter top level. Say oh man. I had to to kill myself to get to where i am social policies. Also be like he. He explains that he had when he got into these name. France for example. He was not the best one he was behind. He felt he hit to struggle. So you look at these guys are the best and then you're like okay. If struggled maybe i can get there into the. Yeah so so. You're in romania. How much time goes by before you get a crack at your your first feature production okay. The first feature that shouldn't did is worth talking was glaus but they did actually work in another one. That was worth talking about. All that sad is not worth talking you. I've i've got one of those on my resume to. Yeah after probably. When i come from romania maybe a couple of months. I got one to work on that. But it just for a mexican or something Something like that south america but the trees. That i didn't work on feature film until I work for a commercial for your stuff like that in portugal in little stories mostly fourcade kids shows. That's what portugal head. I dunno even at the time now but at the time you tired and it was not easy were they. More style animations or very full no was what they wanted from guinea mater. It was just the basic of the basic. The on thin but to it was very frustrating. Because i wanted they shut to be like. I'm gonna made these like glen keane and it's all i can so relate to that yet doesn't fit all the shots are very basic and then comes my show in the deacon. He's doing full matrix style. Camera moves suspect was very frustrating. Took those years. Until i was doing my own tests like i was doing little glimpse of voice acting and stuff professionally. Years went by in honestly. I spend a lot of time. Not improving as much as i could because i was like Not taking serious enough a lot because of frustration frustration. And i didn't see deanne by cudgel site didn't see that i i kind of become delusion. I don't know the words i i know what you mean. 'cause i i i remember In twenty eleven. I was in a state of mind of. I've seen the best years of my animation career. They've come and gone. My best hope. Now is small. Little independent production gigs. That somehow i get. There's no chance i'm ever going to achieve my dreams right and in that same year. I got a call from a disney recruiter. So it's weird how you can be so determined that it's over right or it's hopeless and then fate. Just would you a one eighty on you see and you end up on this new path of. I can't believe i'm here. Look at everything happening. You know yeah in my case After seven years of working in Dealing things that was not very happy with i was actually gonna leave mation or maybe think of other areas of animation or something but to i was working Starting to lay lay off people go. I'm going to before ending his any mation. Think i want to reach out to someone would like to work with which was at the time the lead singer of a bands gold link or not too. It's all yeah yeah. It is american top. Ufo guy now. Yeah tom delonge. I think of. Yeah exactly the guy. And the i we reach out to him me and my brother. I did test just to see. Maybe this guy wants some clip or something. Lets you to one and i was working. I was working the our normal work hours. Like i would get home. It ten sometimes and then we're on a shot to send him for like three weeks. It was all are not seeing good. Like i kill myself a month to a lot of emails until one email font him. The guy wanted to do a short film and chuck term that we made my brother in a couple of friends was the turning point for us to a. that's awesome. Was that gave you that. Electricity like all this can happen now. I got to start really taking it serious now. I'm gonna kill myself because there's there's actually a chance of Yeah getting somewhere with this often task towards that thing. Where people are looking for motivation but the jury's If you're in the place at the right motivation you were a billion hours of they ultimately. That's what happened with church filming. I was just working. Life was there was nothing for two years but that was not fuelling. Tire does not feeling. Like what am i doing and i actually felt happy that i could work on something that i enjoyed. You know that was the moment where i actually also got to understand better. The any mason technical side ended after that actually after that when we finish the short film there was nothing going on for two years nobody cares. Nobody mentioned anything in. Don't remember what it was but suddenly people start sharing needs start sharing the scenes. Some sites shared the short term ended. I got so many offers in like three weeks including cedric bubbles. But i hit two years from the moment. The short film was finished until the offers came. Yeah and during that two years. Were you doing stuff like independently or were you still working in those television commercials either time. Actually i wanted to spend some time some friends and he made their friends that were in. Ireland went to work in boulder media for him. A hug wander over yonder. It's uv show by the creator of our puff girls. He created the okay for disney and it was so very intensive I really enjoyed the show. Actually it's really fun to watch but I wanted to do feature film once again. I i got not very quickly off the unique to do five seconds a day. I don't remember exactly but to on. Tv work will burn you out. I know animators. Who do it. No problem and i just man. I burnt out. I've done animation for storyboards fort not got burnt out every job. I've done for television. I really i really. I actually had to so when we when they're over wander younger. We're gonna start another show. I don't remember what it was but it was a show. We'd ponies something Five seconds for this show for another year. So i went home. That's when i started doing Portugal to my brother's home for guy and do Doing treaty acting shots to try to get into a big studio. Mind what i had in mind at. The time was illumination mcgovern because zero pianists in france. And i thought maybe these a good starting the setting a goal for me too heavy mind and so I d the one acting shot dead. I used in the second club. Yup the it's the contest it's one got beat up tension. And maybe that's the starting point where things started rolling out was detecting shots. I think people are like who is this guy a little bit. Search it connected to the short field and people share the in right after debt. I got so many of for One of them was as your pos of her but he was high. Oh yeah yeah so your first day with under sergio. Did you walk in full of confidence or were you terrified or how how was free actually fuel. My i was when i was already over thirty years old because i have unified. Got there on our to d. two. I would be like i'm the best. Let me handle this. But you're even working smoke projections with people that are leading you and they don't know what they're doing. You learned it. You have your own place you know. What do you think. It is about young artists. I stay young between twenty and thirty. We tend to just have insane ego right and no skill to back it up about it but i think the question is we know what we don't there things that we have in our reminded to like. I did this better. The pros didn't know all struggle in what is behind. What director does what is behind the producer. Or is behind the whole pipeline. We don't understand it so we don't we think it's we can just go in and give our own. I will do this better disease. And i know mora but soon as you for example when we directed When we work on our short film man. I was became completely aware of how things are. Not as as you'd think there's so when i came to surge apollo's i was really humble. That was like men these guy but first of all i was a fan. I've been a fan of. Oh yeah she's forever. But was seeking he put this together. The high quality of the teaser high-quality of everything that comes out so i was literally just. I'm gonna learn every scene and is so katie as much as again. And i hope that's what i remember thinking prowling trae weeks. He's gonna say man. Sorry we we need someone else. You're not with for these joke. I thought that yeah. Yeah in just a few episodes ago. I compared sergio pablos to kinda. Today's walt disney and i say that because he is a of the time we're in he's out there making very high creative decisions in coming up with stories and presenting them in store that that grandiose way that walt disney is famous for doing right and Yeah i really look forward to spas studios future lineup of productions because close just had me hooked from the very first line test came out and i was like what is this. This is awesome. This is working on now. It's a it's it's they. It's the point is not to do another close. you know. it's what do not. Where can we go so close these and it's different completely different than it's awesome so i cannot say anything unfortunately but no absolutely i want you to break your nda but You know in the future. Whatever comes out. we'll have you back on to talk about it but Yeah so okay. So that first day. You're in spa studios near. You're just feeling happy to be there. Just lucky to be there your first assignment. You're given to come out of you. Easy no or yeah okay. Assignment was a sensuous me to draw some of posing so there was a drawing volvo. bite karston. he's the character design in. Says you can talk the beaten. He was sinking. I could get alvin now. Is really happy. The character to supervise and i was really heck because i i liked it her a usually i like the characters are be more a quirky or juicer cast etc. There was something that could see interesting. Potential and says she wanted me to toward queen Of cool and then. I started doing some posing and do i showed sir few. He probably doesn't even remember i. I wanted him. And i showed him the first shoot drawings and he almost didn't blink. Can you just looks this something. That is very quickly to give you the feedback like sometimes you show up a nation tests pez once in. He already tells you what what works are not very right. But he's very festive. Right and i showed him and he was like there was a drawing. She kind of seemed like she was blowing the headlight. Carrio like de man. You need to find his alva. She's blowing thing. It's kind of like area. But she's a different person character reading to find her. And i was like okay. Okay but deep down knows completely dying. Like i have no idea what i'm gonna do and but that was really cool. The direction because drugs from that point was Were how'd you say approached from. Who is this character all nations. It's not from what is cool. Or what can i talk. Can i make her look pretty. Was what is discouraged Doing or feeling or thinking and then he turned out much better. The second time. I showed the surge. What what was that spark that that click the character in your mind like re drinking coffee one day and looked up and someone was eating something. You're just reminded you of a memory of your mother and your like that's it off you go or it's funny that you ask because i didn't know there was that moment of spark i thought But actually there's a moment where you connect with the alliott garrett. I got this character either. Drawing acting wise and it was a the first desktop was doing acting shot with her. That too i was doing my movements was acting out and i had the feeling that to she. Heads to be like a hundred. Say fisherwoman too. Not delegate you know. But when i doubt i did with my finger and the she was holding a ninth but i did this like delegates and then i was like oh. This feels so right for her because she was actually a teacher before she was a fisherwoman and then it was much. I got okay so this character is actually dedicate but cheeses on top of the level. She's a fisherwoman. And that's a legal gesture kind of how the gates like these. The character interesting became your rosetta. Stone of who that character was exactly exactly. Yeah that's so cool. While the anime should her she looks Her head kind of looks difficult to end mate from insperity angles. It's very hard thing. Yeah when i was watching your real. I'm like oh my god. That looks like a nightmare because the shape of her head. And it's done so well. But i i'm just like i don't know if i could ever think of how to draw that head in all those early roy was the biggest challenge because because her head doesn't even have a like if you take the hair out it's shaped like this you know the hair kind of dissimilated but the question is how can you make kurt not feel like she has a. How can these feel like she has a break. She doesn't she cannot feel like there's no nothing there and it was a. I got to be a tough inspiration from a drawing from another animator. Don't remember if it was because we have any maters do drives when they mean to test to just two for a couple of weeks to And i don't know if it was allah or visit or maybe no. I don't know she drove but someone and i was like. Oh this is interesting. Because the way the the lines were coming down kind of make volume metric But it was the biggest struggle. Yeah i always look for that one thing. That is the landmark. And then i base the drawing off the landmark kind of thing because i struggle withdrawing so much like it does not come easing out all even at the being added for twenty years now like i still. Yeah yeah so. When i hear other people talk about how hard drawing news and you know i feel relieved good. I'm not the only one honestly. look around. Most of animators. I feel they get easier than me. Honestly yeah kite. I don't know how to make a struggle a draw over and over until the drawing looks. Good it's not. Yeah i wanted to ask you about that. Because i have. That approach is well. I draw mostly digitally now. Because i have really bad. Hand tremors so drawing on papers a complete nightmare me now but i can draw digitally and I do layers like you know under drawing one too and just keep plus it. And because i i have to look for it and then i'll get five layers realize. I've been drawing this part of the anatomy wrong the entire time. Now you gotta do a whole new drawing right man and it's true like you i look at like there's a really good friend of mine Chris wing his a super talented two d animator. And i i worked with matt disney for a while now i would just marvel at his. It seemed like you didn't spend a lotta time on each post like it just came and he was onto the next one right and i go back to my desk and sit down. It'd be like when is that going to happen for me. You know so. It hasn't happened for me either yet that they naturally make poses in the first second. Try and the menotti. I have to. That's the that's the part where i struggle. I'm lucky that you mission comes more easy because otherwise do the quota. I will not be able because still so much with the droid but i think that probably how they made their struggle as much they just don't tell it. So there's this everyone is the same struggle but yeah so I've always. I've always like i draw better when i'm animating illustrating completely so yeah and i think a lot of animators like that because i'm not thinking about it as much. I'm that might not be the right thing to say. I'm thinking about it so differently. But when you're illustrating here it's one locked thing right. And you tend to hyper focus on his stuff and seen. How many meeting their accidents in the drawing that so interesting and that makes the droid good. But it's because i'm looking for a specific movement and then there's the in the middle. Oh i need to put the hand here or something and then the drawing kind of comes alive by itself but if someone asks me to join i just saw the worst roy. Golf with steve. By it looks only unless it's any big shots. One of my one of my nightmares. That has happened to me over and over again. You ever go to a restaurant where they have the brown paper down as the table table top. Whatever and they give you markers so people can draw with. They're waiting for their food. I hate that. I can't even tell you how much because everybody's like. Hey brian how. 'bout you draw something. I'm like oh my god and then i have to get artsy. I'm like dude process guys. you know. They're all like Just just draw something. Which i'm not really. I'm not fi being with a. I expect you to draw well. And you're like need my cdc controls. Yeah exactly controls. E is i mean it just that it's life so much so like i've said it before on the podcast. There was a time where i dropped a bottle of pickles at burst on the floor and my brain thought oh just controls that and i'm like oh wait. I can't stop Drugs and working so yeah but it happens in the different. When and drawing on paper or even writing some notes i gues- control the never happened with pico's or something like that. Yeah but So so when you're working on Klaus with sergio. Did you have breakthrough moments were. Sergio would like draw over. You're trying and it just a couple lines such a shattered your whole way of thinking about things head dead to with the test for jesper just together. We are trying to find the voice and yet that this ended in it was a different actor Idea says you like the rough. I did the title and then surgery was like Okay send it to me. I'll draw for a few drawings which is not easy. of course you're always like sir. I know but then he joins come. Bet came back in the. It was completely a breakthrough moment. Be i don't know what it is. But i oh i used to draw a. I don't know what the difference but i realize tissue intentionally never line even if the intention is not conscious the lines are not widely they are not to every is a statement you know and that's when looking to his drawings to a bigger say even more so with the hands. I changed my way of drawing heads completely. Yeah draws hands. He draws everything but the hands and it was nowadays. I kind of feel comfortable drawing hands. Because i i saw his drovers got a disease what i was doing these what he's doing and needs miles away. That was a woman of completely. There are three artists who i up to for their hands alone. Sergio milk call and toby shelton store story board artist. I think he does mostly dreamworks stuff. Toby shelton is i mean. He's done animation and stuff but for quite a while now he's been strictly storyboards and his board searches so gesture in often loose but the volume metric and full of acting and just amazing your hand sir just and they're always simplified because they're in that gesture storyboards sketch but there are so dynamic so between those three whenever i want feel bad about myself i just look up their version of a had like completely. I see i remember once. I was in a meeting. A normal meeting Crippling something else sitting next to him by the end he left. He went to about drawing or didn't look at any was like seats. Are seven hands drawing as the beating was going on as to league lake. I should give his way of marking his territory. Yeah yeah we're remember who's show this as people. Now that it was a be a breakthrough moment land. I saw drovers get clicked on my rain a little bit too a lot to learn compared to but to have cast who couldn't draw those drawings but at least i got the job like understand. Stand something here. Yeah i love those moments when they happen When you recognized as happening the they they don't happen enough. If i remember couple once any mating to have those moments and one of them was a run site not to cycle the character running in perspective. I don't know kind of your break connects to like get it i can. I get like. I can feel the movement of the body just like a bouncing ball with legs in the tourist. Yeah and a light bulb goes on you know and there's a few like that But to yes once every ten years right thirst flower that grows on the mountain top of somewhere in the rain force and plumes once every twenty years. Yeah you really got to work for them but if they happen all the time. You wouldn't appreciate it so So you're working on new projects for Spa studios are you. Are you going to be on board spa studios for quite a while or vam. Bishen make your way over to other studios dreamworks disney. Whatever if you asked me that before. Close i always wanted to be part of these day for easter it Yes could you want to at least once. Be part of it. You know the thing he said. First of all it's tree. The these three more speaks of everything. I really enjoyed to the process. You know the end the also spice doing awesome stuff. So i'm not saying. I would never want to join it of course because it's always going to be there that these nee thing you know like the background to be part of the legacy even if it's just for the project but nowadays i don't feel it as much That was a big part of my goal. I guess but now it's like if it's going as cool as it's going in spa it's ablaze to. It's i don't feel the need to go to these name. Or maybe i'll go date just for one project right. Yeah well the only thing worse than not achieving a dream goal is achieving net and then it goes away and what i mean by that is like just like you like i want to animate for disney since i was like five years old right and when it happened for me it wasn't in the big leagues like disney feature. There were logistical reasons. Why that was a new reality for me. Because i had a large family move into the. Us was just not going to happen. But when i when. I got to work for disney and then it was over it was rough emotionally. I still have dreams about it. Where i'm working with the old team and we're working on a project because it was such a fantastic experience so sometimes i almost think it's better to always have that goal that you never quite achieve you. Do a chief it and then you're done with it. It's on a downward slope. I come time leads here. Even i think it was. I think it does. Need gregory. Renew our podcast that he said i had the job For i don't know how many years twenty years or and i felt wellman it's such a talented animator. And he had like it's no longer there. It's gone and the idea. I honestly i. I feel very lucky to to to the animation and the i hope that it keeps going but i must. I can only imagine the frustration of being suddenly. Nope never again. It was yeah well at least not at a level that you worked really hard to get to. yeah it just. I don't know but it sounds like you're going to be set for quite a while. It's we had a netflix. It's very happy you know i you right now. A reason not to for spot to try but nosema. I've always had second thoughts. Yes there and now the head the also moments of okay disney's gun forever. But they were able to come back but spice not these new no not for the lack of good ideas are talent is just dangerous tree. Who knows what they will support us later. You know i think I think with today everything. Changes like across the board. I were living in upside down world right now right like everything is just. There's very little logic and a lot of things right so you're absolutely right. Anything could change at any but yeah. Let's hope not. What were some of the earlier films that spa studios did that. Were big influence for you. That's passed and you did not yes itself but it was but work they did before you came on board so the the stuff that the first thing i saw from spy that got me interested. It was a trailer for joe. Komo's secrets which was a project that says you had on onto thousand four three. I don't know maybe five. But when i saw it i meant was that it was because there's disability in is that i really enjoy the reminds me of classic but also Fraternities together. no it has both world. Yeah doing something you. But it's very a classic and i saw trailer and dan. I've been seeing things that they would. They will not post nowadays where they have social media but they would sometimes that would show up for example follows concept art character design on real and all. Yeah like it from time to time. That kept me going back to. What are these guys doing. Chiquita unto c. And also because you developed the idea for despicable me. I know there was a little things that i was interested. You know an and then mation acting performance of szechuan published. Yeah yeah for for me. It was The model sheets for rio some of my favorite model sheets of all time. Just the the broken anatomy. That's put into the birds. And yet it i lock it. I'm like that's exactly how a bird would pose completely and it's not exactly like it's not realistic way but it's the right The how to say these debt characters. Way feels natural. Yeah yeah and do. I wonder how many how many under drawings were done for those. Yeah i know. I hope so too. I doubt it probably like one half one two. Okay i it's it's funny. How animators will sort of when we put people on pedestals who are doing the same. We're doing but at a much higher level. We just assume that it's so natural and easy for them right even though we know that the truth is probably the opposite of that but even the most skilled of us even nick areas talked about people who he assumed. It just came supernatural too. And it's just not the case. You've got to work for it and i find. I find that the people who are just getting into it now have expectation speculation of immediate results. Y- and they they don't they don't follow through with okay. Well i've drawn at once here. It is and they get so attached to that. I like trying again and plus exaggerating. And i've heard if he helps heard sergio policy. Man i struggle withdrawing and then i'm like oh cool he also struggles but then you see he scribbling on a meeting hands or example. Yeah any Where's the struggle. I want to struggle like search struggles to i guess you get. They're just doing it for me. At least i know. I'm not i. Don't have the like the boxer seeing or than you are just a you know i well. I mean that that is a great segue into the idea and the truth that we are all on our own path and as much as we want to emulate our heroes who look up to and try to copy the way they draw or the way they animate. That's a it's never going to happen. And even on on your best attempt it's just gonna look like a hollow. Shell version of what they would do. Yeah right like you've really got to embrace who you are and let that come out and keep working that way and eventually you become your own flavor that people wanted to see right and i honestly thought that would never like it was really clear i will never end. Might like these guys you know. And i'm not saying. I'm as good but to the level that i damn if a look at these shots when i was like twenty five no way that was not. That's not gonna be done by me but it's it's just the process of being lucky to have the opportunity for stuff. All and the condition conditions are just say conditions the like opportunities conditions all of them all that feeds into it consistency and perseverance. Don't also to be there. For example by kendall do the level of stuff because of for example knows what it takes to do with the nation. Or if i never had pretend to. My short feel more work gets Out probably still intimate the way i was before you know. So there's a bit of luck on the middle but mostly it's hard work did it. Then you have other saying everyone on there. But i remember talking with james buxton. He was. I asked him because he does something. Now that you give the talk in mates while he's doing it and others in life and it looks like one in how our of When our for three hours. And i ask him by the end of it When you were starting would you feel confidence to using front of every body or your any mation would not you will not feel like emission is good enough. It was pretty much the same. Because i was feeling good about it and i realize okay. These people that have a different skill. Set you yeah. They process the information in the translation from their mental vision at their fingertips is a one to one ratio where most of us said you know was two one. Three four us are up to twelve. That'd be me and you know and it's You tend to get a watered down version of what you're imagining. Yeah so it's i. I don't know we should go pear. And he said that people say don't compared to the others but tell better you are doing yet but i think we should always a Try for a to know strife. it's the yet because. I think that helped me a lot to every shut that was doing. I was thinking how gyms box the researcher bubbles to tolerate. Look how far am i what. He's not there yet to know. And i think that gives me. That's what tells me it's not good enough. You know Growing instead of just making. I'm always seeking any. It's never good enough because it doesn't is not as well drawn as going gin or it's not as good performances shared your mechanic says jimmy's never but i know what it's not there. You know i. It's frustrating sometimes. it can get. I've always thought of animation. Kind of like the harry potter movies where it has to different houses. Slithering griffin door. So if there were an anime she have like the house of glen keane deja the house of pablo. Whatever right and i've always imagined that. I would be in glen keane house. Not because i think i'm anywhere near as good as him as his approach to it that searching he does he. It doesn't appear at first when you watch him do a drawing. It almost looks like he doesn't know how to draw because he's just weapon lines down feeling form right and he's looking for and then if you blink at the wrong time bam the drawings right there and you're like oh my god whenever i watch harry potter. I'm like the sorting hat. I would hope would put me in the house at glen keane and definitely not the house i need because i that approach to join. It's completely if anything. I'm somewhere in the middle of sergio. In gyms boxster nottingham once again completely far away would get I guess i've closer to them and can because it's a different way of approaching. I don't know maybe i heard. I heard glen keane has some sort of. I don't think it's a disease just something mentally where he can't visualize mentally. I forget the name of it. But i've read. I've read it interview of him. Supposedly talking about it and i often wondered how somebody who struggles to visualize within their mind. Can't deliver such impactful visuals. You know that you're telling me something that it's making me so happy. I had talk with my girlfriend. Little really feeling civil. And i was like i cannot visualize things mentally yes not visualize. I cannot see something in visual. Get what it's called. I'm to like okay. So maybe i still have a chance. Yeah well this is really interesting that you're pointing you talk. No i never heard of it. We were talking about just to some. I don't know random float. Glen keane has a condition called atf in asia. Meaning his mind's eye is blind and so there there you go. I mean i'm not gonna read the whole article. But if you just google i just typed in glen. Keane cannot visualize allies. Actually i. maybe it's not. They're all the same thing it's just interesting. I was talking about it. Mike weeks ago and then i got the glimpse of well. Maybe that's why it cannot draw or whatever as good as i want to something like okay. Yeah yeah okay. I hit be worth looking into anyway but yeah so yeah i'm gonna let you get back to your evening and i'm so grateful for you coming on the podcast and sharing your story. I hope you'll come on again. And if would it be possible for me to get a copy of that short from you that you did for The blink one eighty tin. They put on youtube. Okay dan yeah two years ago or something they so you can just go put anderson the dream wilder and it's shows up to the whole short. Okay great and if there are any promotional links just message from two or email them. And i'll put them in the video description. Thank you so much. All right thank you. It's it's been great to meet you. I appreciate it. Bye bye creative painting of some things in a pig pen for be a stand. Comedian doesn't matter. How it when you're.

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Achieving Work/Life Balance

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25:46 min | 1 year ago

Achieving Work/Life Balance

"They call you. The grill master seared the thickest porterhouse in the butcher shop and is your lift that first foal to your mouth you savor the moment to get amazing offers during the Mercedes Benz summer event like the two thousand nine hundred c Class Sedan G._N._C. S._U._V. The perfect recipes of driving performance plus. You can enjoy six months of Sirius X._M.. All access including the Mercedes Benz summer event now serving limited time offers on select line of vehicles offers end September third Mercedes Benz the best or mentally thanks for joining us at the business growth cafe where each week we select from a menu of topics for a focused discussion with an industry expert to provide insights that can impact Your Business's growth with your your host Liangelo Ponzi. I am Angelo Ponzi your host here at the Business Growth Cafe and thank you for joining us joining me today at the cafe is Chrissy Albelin founder and C._E._o.. Carefree concierge to discuss how to get more time back in your day to focus on your business and other important things in life Chrissy. Welcome thank you for having here today excited to have you here. I think we're going to have a great discussion but before we get started. Take a minute or two to tell the audience about you and your business the gotTa put it in perspective okay. I'm Christie Evelyn the founder and C._E._O.. Of Carefree concierge business I started back in two thousand seven and it's really about helping our clients get back that non on renewable resource which is time <hes> something we all want and need more of and <hes> just helping them lead less stress lives and be more productive so in a nutshell yeah well you just twenty when you said that my mind flashed right to an hourglass <hes> uh-huh and that the sand of life just kind of slowly ticking out and there's a lot of sand for some and maybe not so much for other so it's really important to your point. We can't get it back if we could than <hes> we'd try yeah yeah. You're you're absolutely right so before we start in in kind of get into the topic of today. I asked a couple of questions of my guests. The first one is when thinking about growing your business. What keeps you up at night? I'm not sure if it's something that keeps me up at night but every day I ask myself. What could I have done better for my clients? What could I have done better for my company in my team and also could have done better for myself? So that's a question I asked myself regularly daily get answers. I sometimes I do sometimes not not the interesting want. Maybe about <hes> all right all right then the other is what is the best business advice you've ever received and or given if it's different to follow my instincts and believe in myself yeah so that's the the best advice I've received okay is there is on something that's kind of rooted in that that part about believing in yourself. I think it's I mean you've got to have that confidence in. Sometimes we struggle with that especially me I mean as a business or two you. You constantly got amazing that drive in in get up and go every day so you have to believe in yourself most importantly if people ask me. How's Your Day and my answers? Usually I got up so so far so but to your point it's about I think as an entrepreneur it's really an out- speak for you and you can agree your disagreements about that motivation. It is about that dry because no one pushes us. There's no boss you know in the ivory tower coming down and telling us what to do so that that really drives us so <hes> i WanNa talk about your business again a lot of this says about business growth in some insights that we can impart to our listeners today but when I think about your company in your purpose really and like this it's about your customers or members with the freedom and flexibility to do what's what's most important that could be family friends and hobbies and exercise traveling volunteering my wife would say more exercising and really anything else that that really helps us now. What led you to this business concept except well? I love working with people and I love helping people and doing a variety of different things and I always knew I wanted to have my own business and so I did a lot of research came across the idea of a personal concierge and <hes> the rest is history. I started immediately and. And <hes> I love it. I love every minute of it okay now. This is not your first business you have you have actually a few of them kind of going on simultaneously Ale yes well. This is my first business. I started back in two thousand and settled <hes> but I was also the C._O._O.. Goldensohn for eight and over little over eight years one of my favorites mother way Yes mine's you and then I have a coffee company called my job roster and a lifestyle business fashioned food music so several things going on did you have you have employees with carefree <hes>. Do you have employees with the others. I have a partner with them. My Java roster <hes> fashion p music is all me <hes> and then <hes> yeah with Jeffrey concierge. We have a team of seven so plus all of our vendors and partners that we have that support our services so all right so I'm GONNA ask a really important question. You're busy woman. Do you provide yourself services. Well I do rely on some of our partners and everything and I've utilized their services for myself and my team. I do not WanNa Cross that line but the yeah I need a concierge. I jokingly say that all the time I need higher myself so I was thinking about that as I was preparing for this interview. I wonder if she hires herself to do all this work yeah yeah now when you came across this business I mean did you so as an entrepreneur starting a new business. I mean you just go. Hey this sounds great. I'M GONNA jump right into it or did you spend some time researching it. Traditional research enjoyed talking to family and friends. How did you come up with this concept and for those entrepreneurs listening today with some guidance about you know it's a leap of faith or a you gotta do a little due diligence before you kinda run out there every search search? I'm researching the market market needs potential customer base Revenue Sourcing <hes> which I think are things that every person starting businesses. It's incredibly important to do so eventually you have to hit the ground running but doing that research prior is is going to help you yeah. I think I think that's so important I- ideal in as a consultant with a lot of startups and a Lotta Times I find that they just fell in love with their idea and you know build it. They will come and it doesn't always happen that way. It never happens more often than not. It doesn't exactly right so as gone the way you anticipated. What would you have done differently as a as a business owner was it instead of two thousand seven and so how worried by the way I tried to start one in two thousand nine hundred and go very well Yup Yup? I think yeah well if you can you know I guess make it through that time than it helps you become stronger and it was definitely challenging was a challenging time so <hes> but yeah so things have gone <hes> as expected in some ways and not in other ways so I think it's <hes> it's really difficult to plan on every step when you're starting a business is important to remain flexible adapt overcome and provis and <hes> go Murphy's law's always waiting around the corner and it's usually the worst time ever so being prepared right well now. You mentioned you were the C._O._O.. At Golden Spoon so that really gave you a lot of perspective on operations and things like that how is how is that experienced -perienced played into the entrepreneurial side of it <hes> oh well accidents was incredibly valuable. <hes> I truly appreciate it <hes> so yeah I think a lot of it does trickle over. I'm just from you know making sure that you have a business plan in place and you know it's fluid it's ever changing but you have to have something that you're constantly reaching towards your goals <hes> and just having all those operational pieces in place. I have operations manager <hes> vice president overseeing everything and I couldn't do it without him so awesome yeah okay the talked about business plans in place and marketing plan all do have all that idea. Yes I had a business coach actually back when I was starting an old family friend <hes> but he would meet with me regularly when I was creating this company care free concierge and <hes> he just taught me the importance of having that business plan in place and so ever since then. I've you know I've drilled the importance to you know fellow colleagues and stuff too so I commend you on that. I got I've worked with companies. Japanese that are thirty years old that unfortunately just been kind of winging it they've grown sort of but at the end of the day they didn't actually have any kind of formalized plan or formalized process on your building a team. You GotTa make sure that everyone has the same vision are on the same page. So <hes> you know Your Marketing Department you know obviously you know unless they're they're on the same page with the business goals. Then you know what you you know marketing yeah okay so I want to dig a little more into the business because I find it fascinating fascinating and I actually had inquired about service my sophos getting ready to go on vacation and I was looking for someone to take care of my plants and <hes> you did find you somebody already back from vacation but you did find me somebody but but thou that's and you're up to our so if you think about personal shopping in home services virtual assistance I think are things in and then I'll jostle catered to the corporate side so we've got the personal in the corporate so then this is a business show. Let's flip to the corporate side right a little bit and talk about you know how do business owners utilize your services and and what do you find consistent from you offer ten things what's being utilized and what's not being utilized yet. Will we work with them companies in a variety of different ways <hes> and really it's a custody. Customize a plan for each business that we work with you know if it's a employee benefit program that we're going to be rolling out with using our concierge services than we want to. We want to know how many employees are going to be accessing the services how many places you have about how many hours will they want access to each month. <hes> what's your budget <hes> so things of that nature but offering our services as an employee benefits help increase productivity attract the best talent retain that talent. That's really what it's all about and ultimately the bottom line for the business owner so good. I've done a couple of shows on employee benefits and kind of what a new trends going on whether it's pet insurance or debt payment all that kind of stuff so this is kind of a new edition really outside the box you can. I mean especially in a competitive job market like it is now you got to work hard sidetrack those top talent so when you deal with somebody on the corporate side. Are you dealing with the H._R.. Folks dealing with the people at the top. WHO's your target? It depends on the company so yes H._R.. Is frequently we work with <hes> but also the the the C._O._O.. As well so <hes> do they get it right away. I would say some businesses do and some don't some take a little bit more convincing so and I yeah I would say law firms definitely get it. They're busy. They're stressed <hes> wealth management companies get it and they we <hes> we have several companies that we work within the offer our services to their clients so okay not just their employee employees okay. Oh that's interesting so tell me about a story I ah do in story so tell me about a business you don't have to name him but successful engagement what how that kind of process went and how it ended up well <hes> excuse me I recently started working working with a company that <hes> I own the business on our for a while and I knew that they were struggling to like we were just talking about attracting the best talent <hes> they their employees were just low morale not productive <hes> they they weren't keeping their employees new retaining joining them and so we were trying to strategize and find a plan that could help them attract talent retain them increase productivity so we met several times discussed a employee benefit program rolled it out and their employees have definitely become more productive in a short amount of time <hes> they're using the services which is great so they see value themselves. They appreciate their leadership more so it's improved morale their customer service everything so hopefully ultimately it will increase the bottom line for the business owner and we'll just you know Kinda. Keep playing it didn't did did you guys talk to to the employees that you kind of say here's program and kind of get their feedback and helping to shape what that looks like yeah. We definitely have a we roll it out. We have an introduction <hes> we we share ways that they can use our services fifty ways Elisa Carrio service that kind of thing and who your contacts going to be <hes> and the whole process of arranging their services so Aaron Bay services are definitely the most <hes> used so your grocery shopping your dog walking the dry cleaning the daily stressors that <hes>. You keep them you know stressed and then unproductive because they're just distracted during the workday so that you're not <hes> or maybe you are. Maybe not services as far as you know kind of being a life coach do that too and so it's really stressed and need some guidance and help you guys offer that services well on the individual side. We work really closely with our clients so maybe to some degree but <hes> not I wouldn't say technically then you're not really about license. No no no no we're not so this is not a therapy session. Folks kind of like your hairdresser or something like that not to be with consider ourselves that okay the <hes>. Where do you focus well historically? It's been on the individual side but really I think the way to scale the business is working more with companies and just seeing that they've they've seen the value of our services recently. I think it's just <hes> that's really where I wanNA. Put my time in focus on his working that side of it so <hes> okay when you're looking at evaluating kind of your growth strategies and again this is for businesses as well so as a C._E._o.. Of of Golden Spoon and of course as the C._E._O.. Of Your company how do you sit down and say okay. Here's all the different things we can offer. Here's all the different products and services that we have. How do I identify where I really want to focus whereas my greatest return whether it's more services to existing clients or identifying new markets or verticals to go into how do you approach kind of that marketing side? I mean I know the answers but I'm asking you your answers. I sat let let me see if I understand the question I guess <hes> Multi Party Yeah Yeah <hes> 'cause we work with our clients in a variety in different ways on we really want to be that goatee resource for our clients for everything and to do that because of the team that we belts and through our partners and vendors and so we're always <hes> you know when we get new requests from our clients than we are going to say yes. We're going to figure out how to do it and we're going to figure out how to do it and exceed their expectations so <hes> I mean most of our businesses referral base because of the high trust nature of what we do <hes> but yeah I mean I try to do things such as this the radio show today and getting the word out there and awareness pretty close but I mean identifying if you're going to go back to myself. I need a plant person. It's not service you had at the time right right. So do you say but I mean but if you think about it you say again. Take it to a widget any kind of which right the assay okay. I'm GonNa go find this plant person to go build this widget for Ponzi because he's asked me or is there a real demand for plant services may not how now you probably did it 'cause I was asking but but how do you sit there and evaluates man. That's a great service but I don't really have a demand for it. I'm going to go out and talk to my customer. So how do you as as the business owner really really dig down and say what's my next. What's my next service? Hardaway add stuff to make sure that it's because it is based on demand and like the you know the requests that we receive <hes> but with regards to the plant I mean ever since we had that discussion. I do have to clients that have utilized that service so I mean yeah. I think we really try to you. Know be that goatee person for each individual client so it's not like we're we're not gonNA stay. No unless it's you know illegal or unethical <hes> we're going to figure out how bo-keun so like a concierge you know the the hotel peninsula whatever yeah all right all right so we talked a little bit about <hes> achieving balance in your life I use that in the promotion I had a lot of clicks on that one. I've had conversations about that it <hes> year years ago months ago when I first started that this podcast so finding balance in your life can be difficult. We all want it. We we all really don't know how to achieve it so whether it's family obligations or work work activities your kids situations come up so what's I'll say. Three tips can before tips five whatever you WanNa do to H._R.. Show that you want to give the listeners to say. Here's some of the things. Things you can do to help you achieve or at least thinking about how to achieve a work-life balance well so I wanna I start by saying the idea and I've thrown at around there too but the idea of true work life balance is a fallacy because you think about it and work in life are so interconnected <hes> for example. If you get a raise or you get fired from your job at work. That's going to affect your personal life. If you have a baby or you get in a car accident your personal life. That's going to affect your work life so I think that you know it's <hes> you can look at your personal life and your work life but then you need to find those areas that can be delegated outsource or stopped altogether and once you identify these areas than <hes> carefree concierge and take them off your plate and then you can just Andrea most plug their it'd be less stressed and more productive which you know get that time back so you can spend it with your family on your work doing the things you love in life. You know so all right. I'm GONNA push a little harder on this one okay. Let's get some specifics right so if pick yourself if you WANNA talk about that right so how do you sit there and say okay you're now working three jobs owner of to and and the main person on another one so how do you find that work life balance and that th they're really offers some insights because it is a it is a struggle I I've been talking about this for years and I haven't yet quite figured out how to do it and I've I've done things like stopping work early trying to eat dinner early. You know trying to find activities my wife and I actually we exercise together. We hike we bike. We spin trying to find things we can do together and like to do but part of that is it's you know the pressure's. It's were sitting out the hallway waiting on the show. We're checking our phones and you know the client's calling us and right the anxiety levels go up so some of that we can't mitigate but some of it we can so again. I'm monod digging a little deeper. What are some give me a tip one of the things before? I'm GonNa let you go one of the things that somebody told me years ago when I used earlier on mice to get nervous in front of people is they gave me a worry stone or a worry coin an ice to keep but I would just rub it all the time and that used to kind of be a little calming and so the Yeah Yeah Yeah yes so little little tips. I was telling somebody on the show. I think it was the show that I speak all all the time but I still get a little nervous and that's the first thirty or forty seconds so I used to play in a band. I'd always say to myself. It's showtime and so I still do that to this day. So those are kind of my little house they idiosyncrasies fantasies but whatever they are tools so back to the question now that I've really wandered up now well I think learning to log and chart. Your time is very helpful so you can identify those areas that you know you you. You can stop doing all together together. <hes> he's an example. I just gave recently that you know. Stop watching videos on Youtube you know and things you can automate such as bill paying online and then things you can delegate such as your grocery shopping your dog walking those picking the dry cleaner <hes> <hes> travel arrangements <hes> organizing events. These are all things that we do and that you can delegate out so that you're not doing the stress of them. There's a Stephen Covey kind of the four quadrants. I'm where people spend their time. You know the the urgent and the effective active and there's that one down quadrant for that so really a lot of wasted time and and I use that in my presentations and I put net flicks in that box and unfortunately I I fall in that box sometimes when you've been watching fifty six hours aw I mean all of those things they take away from your productivity and other things that you enjoy in life like time with family or travel you know so I think to your point. There's looking for efficiencies. I know one of the things that somebody told me one time. I was telling them that I have this tendency. If I'm working working in my e mails popping up ten like Shiny Penny keeps catching my eye so now I turn the email off. I set my phone timer for like thirty minutes or whatever or idea time batching is incredibly important setting. At that time for a checking emails answering phone calls doing actual work time with family at the end of the day it really pushing that aside I mean we've all been at the restaurant and look around the tables. Hopefully we're not the ones doing that but everybody's on their phone and texting and yet you're out to dinner with your spouse or your loved one or your family your kids and everybody's on the phone texting it is and there's the opportunity for some of that balance right at all doesn't exist on the phone so hang on one second Paul how we doing two minutes. Wow Wow wow given all that you've accomplished. What are you most proud of? I think my ability to <hes> remain positive and and maintain a strong service minded work ethic okay all right all right so we're GONNA start to wind this down so we've covered a lot of topics on the concept of of giving back doc more time and about your business so when you think about you know if you're wasting too much time and spending time on the wrong things any final parting words wisdom that you'd like to give the audience what's Gosh what I say. Well I mean our motto is by that time so just finding those things that you can delegate get them off your plate so that you can stay focused productive stress-free or at at least less stressed and just live a happier life. You know I'm GonNa end with that because that's actually a great piece of advice. How can you buy back time in your life right and and to your point it's a commodity that that is precious and we can't give back so that's really good so Chrissy? Thank you so much. 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Part 1: Mike August Responds, plus Bald Bryan Health Update (ACS May 13)

The Adam Carolla Show

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Part 1: Mike August Responds, plus Bald Bryan Health Update (ACS May 13)

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Oh jeannie you must have dropped an egg when you saw that and that. That is a mom's gravis. Nightmare news notification. I watched that physics. I made a verbal noise like. Oh yeah i can't wait. Originally tweeted out by joel. Klatt football player himself and what was well. We'll get we'll get to that story. I don't know much about i just saw i just did Fighter in the kids Plural now for some reason over Over i just did their podcasts nate. They showed it. So we'll get to that Also rock and roll hall of fame the inductees or in. Oh i'm saying chris i don't know this well. Maybe dawson knows or maybe somebody but me knows but is it like the baseball hall of fame where you just go into the next round the next year or or do you get pulled off the list. Oh it must because pat benetton comes up every year right. I in baseball. If you're not elected within twenty elections or some some some number fifty cut off. So i wonder if like after a certain number of years they take you off the nominee. Because it's getting like it's getting. Susan lucci embarrassing scotty snot in the hanging and their fan base should not have to endure this for another twenty five years so it always always always glad glad devote in get in then. I have some thoughts about the bands that they'd get in. But you know foo fighters and bands like that fine but two of them. I i know you love always Who were the two fighters go-goes love the go-goes who but i'm always perplexed by pat benetton. She's she had so many any stretch rocker. She's a female you know in this day and age is always nice to have a little diversity on their the bad news. Gina female ain't enough to cut it and use it to get a few that boy intersection -ality right but i thought i was talking to max pat and i thought Do we got What are the two songs benetton songs for chilled high. Yeah promises in the dark promises in the dark. Yeah this is a rock and song. I don't think it's a tool town. I think it's just a. I'm not even i. Oh god probably know the hook. Oh because like Pat ben atar and hell is children it. It starts to cook classic rock. We played those. Although i gotta tell you you stand one town long enough. Start going a little bananas. Because i used to tune into care one. One is the oldest. And i stay here like you know Jerry gary lewis and the playboys and stuff. Now it's all soft cell and durant iran. Yeah they played sugar ray the other day on earth one. Oh one five years old. My buddy is is hit. The bas- the fill in bass player for them and he heard it and he called mark mcgrath immediately and said. I just heard your band on k. Earth ninety five ninety six yet because mark local guy. He'd probably grew up. Listen care and the oldie station. Wanna be on k rock. That had a little meatloaf transition. Yeah it's got this whole things. Got a little meatloaf five doing because it's it's sore. Turn it up a little and she could say care some political or something with this guy where she's also married to the same dude for like fifty years tour with her. Neil giraldo quietly. At ben atar had some good guitar. Land turn-up extensive use of the. Hi hat here. Yes the roz arrive. What is the ride. It's the big symbol on the on the on the air like the. Yeah you hit the top part right. Yeah you're certainly not utilizing a have a ride in need a ride. Go to the airport. What can get on it Listen listener shop so turn it up. Brian regan any sprays wrong. It's very cinematic. It's epic yeah. You're probably your dad probably wasn't playing around the house. She's suffer from ethan hawke syndrome which he's too cute to be taken seriously. Yeah but he's a good actor but he's he's even fucking hawk. Elusive visit the dots. Johnny depp figured it out true but none of them are in the hall so maybe they haven't got a big and you search. I don't i. I would need a full explanation on why we pass over pan ever eat every year. You could do this with carrio. Aegina blow out my throat but i do it. Would you block sorry my throat dawson at routes with what this screaming the pabon person all right gary single is one. Yeah from the guys. count it down. My favorite part of any song is It's not thirty eight special. Oh it's molly hatchet with the guy whistles in the middle of the song. Any non song senator in the middle of the song city after whistles. Breath was kicks off the comfort. Helter skelter on this album gonna hear that. Yeah i've never even. I've never even heard that version but on man my all right. Let's hear my karaoke song. But i mean i remember doing this song. Man show rented out when it rented out the pickwick bowling alley and studio city for wrap party at some point after everyone got good and loaded was time to blast out the hokey. And i pulled this number out. And i was throwing karate. Kicks spinning back. Running in place like i informed. There is not a try our pants ri- shirt for panties in that facility. When i was done to cost lactation well my shirt take it out. Ring that pay down shy palace. Big chris hey we had a still. That's a picture of me singing. Hell is for children at kimmel's old the house up in the up in the hollywood hills. Go-to oh yeah. Yeah i got you know. Jimmy has neil diamond. And i i plus down pat. I god looking at his underpants. What point did he drop his pants around his ankles. At this moment that we're seeing this picture taken down even take his pants. Downing's this pull them up each for them on. The kids came into the room. Yeah all right. Let's just fast forward to the last forty seconds in this song. That's a that's all we need. This is where all the variety kick and punch in. The air takes place whose guitar players failed giraldo. Now yeah he's good. I love a big ending song. I love with big crescendo. Side lay heels. Evidence was flying for walker. Texas ranger lord. Nice you know I think chuck norris endorsed a karate blue. Jean baby's life stress to them or something. You got to brunch and you want to do in the face and how but you. Can't i wearing so you have to go with like a shinnecock or something. Well not anymore because chuck has himself a stretchy. Karate houses back on the menu. That's right right. Hey i got a special back on my heel to your orbital socket all right. Brian has a health update. And i'm curious. 'cause i was not prepared for this so for the finished my pills. My last ran medication. In december december eighth to be specific that was divided and that was very very very very tough six months of medication. That was i only saw me over zoom. But i lost so much weight. My hair was falling out of my beer. My beard turned like kind of a weird grayish color. Gray like gray but like like a flesh tone like it was it was very toxic. I'll get these horrible blisters on my feet. I could barely walk around. I'd four my feet every night and put socks on before bed. It was it was it was hellish. Hell hell is for me not virginia. Thanks and it's been a very steady improvement. Ever since i feel better. I put on weights. I'm meeting my appetites back. Colors beckham my beard on. My eyebrows are growing back. It's all it's all good Had a mri and monday had the results. Today with my doctor. Dr rudnik and he saw a couple of spots. He didn't like the. I know it's always. It's always something as relentless. I finished my book with this. And it's fucking true. Cancer is relentless and cancer will never quit like i feel good and then out of the blue. It's something you know what i mean. I feel great. I feel great. Actually i feel the best. I felt a couple of years but a couple little dots. And he's like you know. I want to be aggressive. You respond really well to treatments. I want to treat it now. And so he's putting me on this new medication called. Ccn you which thankfully if none of us silver lining kind of a glass half full situation. The glass half full view is it's nowhere near as toxic last -cation i won't be. I won't be suffering the same side effects there is problems with potentially with the white blood cell counts. But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. He's had good results from it and he's also gonna put me back on a vast in because he's like you responded so well before we use these in conjunction and we're gonna use it on you you know in conjunction now assuming all your bloodwork comes back good which i assume it will but Back in the fight and who knows how long this yeah. It really sucks and i feel really bad for christie. She has put up with a lot and been through a lot the last year and this is just thankfully it will not be as bad as it was lost time. You know what. I mean toxic side effects. But it's another around. How long is the round. It's the pills. It's a weird thing. I take four four pills every six weeks depending on how the blood counts. Come back so it's like four pills on like the first of the month and then on the fifteenth of the next month i'll take four more pills. There's a half life. I as in your body and does the work whatever And that will go on. Probably for six rounds so maybe nine ish months financially Do they have you know. We're always talking about Breakthroughs and you know. Hopefully you know you buy time. And then there's a breakthrough and you buy times. Rake the first things. I i love. It drives me nuts when they go. We have some experimental drug and it's used for cataracts but it's not been approved for cancer and then you know well. Fda's going to you know slow boat. It gives them to eleven years ago yeah. Different kinds of cancer led the people that are in dire straits. Make their own minds up with their doctors and sign a release and give it a shot but to where are we talking about the medicine side of it. But there's also a technological side of it and equipment breakthroughs micro surgeries and techniques and things that exist. It's like there were for heart disease. And now they're doing stuff with robots and doing stuff off line or online but not in in the operating room stuff like that. So you're tumor was inoperable twelve and a half thirteen years ago. But are they making breakthroughs. I mean they keep moving with the technology of the actual procedure and are they getting any closer any news at ever discussed from that department. So we've my doctor. I've seen my talked enough for twelve years. So we talk about these things from time to time in good times and bad we're like what's on the horizon. What are you working on. What's possible and as over the last couple of years. There have been more treatment. The not he actually funny mention that because when my diagnosed my tumors on the brain stem surrounded by a web of nerves and cranial facial nerves and things. You just can't mess with right. So the inoperable however gotten to the point now. The technology like you said he's like we could biopsy if we had to we could bhai offset and that would lead to immunotherapy. You know what. I mean like at a sample and like designed like an immunotherapy. So he's that's what set amino therapy amino therapy is. You saw it on sixty minutes where the reverse engineer hiv to attack or something to attack tumor cells your specific tumor cells as opposed to attacking your whole body. So that doesn't sound like the mechanical part. Mechanical is the biopsy. Sorry yeah they cannot design a therapy unless they physically can kit a piece of it because they have to synthesize it somehow like they have to know exactly what that tumor is to make and by the way this as they say and my doctor told me like i have a plan b. plan c. If this doesn't work. But i expect this to work some this but this is not plan. B or c. Maybe a biopsy yes. That's probably where we'll end up if this doesn't work which i expected to have high hopes but they've made enough progress in the mechanical pardon. No were getting progress in the last twelve and a half two thousand nine twelve years Made enough in that department that they feel confident that they could do a biopsy literally. Just go in with the hair. You know a hair thin needle. Just pull it out. That's what i would imagine. That's an automatic. Go in there with the thinnest needle and get a little clip. The pull it out and then samples going up against. Yeah hopefully this is all a moot point hopefully compass. Yeah no. I totally agree but it does because i think in a mechanical standpoint and i think about you know what the hell were you doing. You know in nine. When you're diagnosed was there tesla's running around all over the place. There's no out. Maybe they just come out and maybe it was just rob schneider. And it's by it wasn't you know wasn't around spacey. Wasn't doing what it's doing their iphone. What they were you know are i mean. We're moving ahead a lot and changed. That's a that's a good thing to have in your hip pocket. You don't you don't wanna have to pull out but it's good that it exists because it wasn't really discussed at the beginning right now wasn't enough. The newest thing back then was the gamma knife. That big deal now. That's pretty common. Couldn't be used on me but that was pretty superman. Gambling luck well. So then if they can biopsy it can get a tissue sample. How confident are they that they could that they could create a a regimen once they buy opposite. We have not had that discussion. So i have no idea because we're unfocused on the current course of treatment. Yeah it's interesting. I don't know. Maybe that's question. I should've asked but i was so focused on. You know a lot of new information all you're gonna be on this right and i think you're you got the rest assured the ball which could ask was progressing knowing the doctor saying we got a plan b. It's don't worry about it right now. I me he. I'm sure that can be worked out. I'm sure that'll be discussed this necessary. So when do you start this as early as tonight. I got my blood drawn earlier today. They wanna make sure my white blood cell count is good. It should be and which case. They'll probably say oh good and start the pills and we'll get this thing running. They're getting approval for a vast in which shouldn't be a problem. Why do you need approval again. I guess i shouldn't say you got a punch card. So hopefully i'll work my favorite. I don't think that'll be a problem. And then i'll get my infusion within a week and we're often running well if you lose the weight. Dramatically and body hair as well save a few for genus. Got a wedding through that. Nobody likes harry. Fat bribe you take. What four pills just cheek one of them you handsomely can do all right well sorry to hear about it for sure but keep us updated and I feel i should point out to people listening. Who are concerned people. Tweet moore emailed me like really rooting for you. I appreciate that. I feel good. I feel great. I don't have any others. The only symptom i have. It's weird. I don't know if you guys have noticed. Maybe you haven't. My smile is a little crooked. Did i say that to you know you. You asked me if i was limping. Wasn't thank you. I think the the walking. We're walking down the stairs. I think that was my dip. A toe in thing. But i have noticed the fake crooked smile another nut. I don't have any numbness and tingling and the anything. Well ease up on that because we do anything fucked up. We'll blame it on the tumor mentally compromised. Yeah already when. I asked you who left the tissue and the urine you mile. I guess on something else. All right took the tissue out. Someone has said someone has a scientific explanation. Why are able to tell. People are Even with us or something someone else guess. Sorry that just reminded me. I got a a really quick. Dm end from a horse trainer. That can explain the it succinctly the whole kentucky derby thing you may just tell you really fast okay. She's amazing her. Name's mindy brogden. She's great she does this for a living and she said butte. Yes i just hear less keep going. She has a company. Called horseplay and arizona butte. What's your partner. now. I don't know but she. She's amazing the med founded. Medina spirit is a version of horse. Advil well done you're right. The reason is it's governed because horses broken legs Running while medicated. If they don't feel it not to push hard. It's a dirty little secret and racing so to medicate them. They don't know how bad their leg is and they're gonna running on it when they shouldn't. That's why yeah. Had a scene like that in north dallas forty. He never seen it. He took the needle. Oh yeah and then he got hit so hard. Bent his face masks. Yes that's right. Never seen northbound speaking of football season of needles. I've seen What's the prison one the longest. Yeah they checked him in the loop and everything but this makes sense. It's not like it's hurting them or giving them in some ways that competitive advantage. It's actually looking out for the horse. Who doesn't know how much pain he's in shouldn't be running. The winner should have been manslaughter. Should've according to your friend of hat. Yeah okay all right. Let's just go down the line We got August is gonna call and defend himself with the mike. Lynch door can't wait. I don't know what angle he's gonna choose. maybe bulldozed. maybe i don't know could be a game type. Excuse like weather related. You know when you're ordering food and it's raining hot really hot. Yeah well look my So the thing about lynch's Have written five books with the man. He's a pretty sober dude. He's he's not. He doesn't do that thing they said you should. You're gonna call on your way back not on your way. And he's p p said something pretty much went down that way. Well you know the same thing about august. Yeah i was standing in between the two of them when he suggests the bowl. Those are so. I don't know how mike's going to get around this. And it was after very long. Well not long. But a where lynch was printing about the work done Let's see let's talk to Al thirty nine from chicago. Got a question about improv. Yeah hey adam how are you. Hi guy guy twice. In two days i remember. I called you and stromer yesterday about the Front porch get in that redone. Paint it but that gina bald. How are you guys. Love the show or small amount. Am i know you're improv fan. And i've never heard you talk about that show. Whose line is it anyway I used to watch that show all the time. The british version the american virgin and some of those guys like ryan styles in colin mockery of those that names during about were really good at it and i had no different style of improv. What you were talking about like in the theater but it is kind of the. It's the truest form of comedic improv. Those are more like improv games. Like warm up gas. Yeah yeah yeah. I don't know. I just remember seeing it. Once and all drew carey was doing his laughing his ass off the whole time is the greatest one ever and then i also wonder if it was ever cooked like a wonder if they knew any of the suggestions beforehand like i mean. They're all season guys. Everyone is seasoned. But everyone's better when they can be preseason died like the rub myself and i like a dry rub and i've been around like i did hollywood squares. They present you all the questions beforehand and they would do it with Now they wouldn't do anything with match game. I guess they couldn't do anything with match game because it wouldn't well they would know what the questions but that fell kinda interesting. They got a lot of rules in game. Shows and match game had a lot of rules. And we've all seen the movie the contestant. Oh was right. So there's a lot of rules like in do match game. It's like You can't be in the room with this guy you gotta do this and that but but then you do. Hollywood squares were was a game show and they could win money but they would tell you all of the questions in advance. So i'm not sure how those affected the game play earlier. There was a lot of rigmarole a lot of rules in. It does say that at the end of the show is like portions. Have been edited did not affect the outcome or okay anyway. Yeah i'll watch it for some reason drew carey just laughing his ass off and not doing any of the working getting paid. Whatever we pay. That was fighting work version of that show because the british virgins getting when when i tyler remember she house it for a while later later stages when wayne brady was on a lot to prove Proops yeah greg proops right on that show and i guess some of that stuff you know. They did have a lot of the audience. Throw out stuff so okay. That's harder to get ahead of hand. Didn't know never watched it. You never talked about it. Yeah i'd i'd i'd i've seen bits and pieces of it and i was impressed but as i always say With me i'm never impressed when the people do something i can do. So it's just a general downtrodden. Ns with some low self esteem. So i always said. I'm impressed when people play instruments. I'm impressed when people spell things. I contact Hugs for children. Compliments things thinks exotic thing right now in in a weird way. It's like. I never really thought about this but i have really good balance. So it's like someone's going to walk the tightrope. I mean it's cool. I have good balance. So i don't i don't think. Yeah there's there's things that i feel like i can do and i'm never maybe everyone's this way. I'm never fully impressed. When i'm watching version of something i can do. I tend to watch stuff. That's a ways away. And i i guess You know it's always a weird thing i was. I was always thinking about this. And it's a it's an interesting approach to life which is Told you guys. A few years ago. When i was talking to my mom who's Never ask follow up questions never interested in anything and it just sort of sits there and just sort of absorbs whatever it is. You're talking about. But as i get older i i started. I was saying you know. I think i was leaving for laguna seca the next day to go to a car race or something so she can. What are you doing this weekend or whatever it was and i said well we're going to laguna seca. We'd do whatever year and we're doing vintage car race. There was just like okay. You know there you go and and burda discovered a muffin shop off affair. it's yod wear is what. Oh no it's not on the same side cantors. It's no but it's unfair. For and i've i've never going there. I don't even eat bran muffins but okay grandma. What does that at this point of the story. what were you wearing. So she was saying all the time. If you dare drone on one sentence to long what are you wearing. I know it's fake story. We have to circle back this because it's interesting so i just stopped in the middle and she was doing her usual. Nothing i want any questions. You don't want to car i'm driving. Or what class are van der how anything works or what it is and she goes he you know. I don't know anything about cars. Would you like to learn something about cars that thing where people go. You gotta watch all the stuff for you or that you already know about it. You're into you know. I like watching sex and city took i. I don't i don't get seems very closed. I mean you know there's a culinary version of this. Go out and eat cuban food. If you've never eaten cuban food what are they imposing all this stuff on you and yeah watching stuff you already do or know how to do or whatever it is also end up end up looking at it like a At some point you just become gynecologist. You get tired of staring at pussy. Oh is that what happened. You gotta read the placard in all the office. Next time to that. I would watch it and i'd start looking at it from a more technical standpoint and that go that guy didn't yes and and the next thing you now i got my jeweler's loup out. I'm not enjoying myself. And that's why i watch. Love boat started. Thank you al. Thank you al but I'll look into it now. I just. I didn't know if you had in the past but i you know i don't even know if it's on anymore but i i wouldn't expect you to go through the attributes gynecology routes but only see that now. Yeah well that was called improvisation. And that's why can't watch them. Nobody should be on. That show has your as your deck doing. I'm i talked to my wife about it and we're gonna go get the paint this weekend else. Nice all right. Got the guy's ex actually. Have the guys power-washing it today. So hopefully it'll stay clean for the we don't when you're ordering paint like when you go to the home depot. Oh boy. don't do that move where you stand three feet behind your old lady while she's pointing at stuff like i see in the home depot commercial. The guys always commercially now is fun either. Get to the counter with her and start pointing at shed or just go take a trip to the plumbing department and lose yourself okay right. Yeah so my means ram. You're mean grandma. We all kind of know these people what they do have. We all had these conversations. They jump you're so worried about them. Like jumping in that you end up speeding every story. Because it's like you know you're on the clock all the time your monitor's on yes so you end up going into two modes like you'll do a fast forward. You got like So i was. It doesn't matter where anyway the the point is is. I see this guy. Rob who i used to. All right doesn't really matter how we know each other. And then we go to counter blowing lady says well doesn't it doesn't really matter what she says but you blow the worst stand up comedian ever at that point because you just power right there your monologue and then my grandma used to hit me. If light a flashlight she would stand up back in the room and if my story two minutes to should start flashing light at nerve wracking the beat grandpa her husband because he was a canadian. He was a polite slow slow. Slow speaking canadian and you be telling his daughter. A doting story doctoring stories. And grandma what were you wearing be. Just take a pause so anyway center so much. It's always funny to. It's like those people that that do that. My grandma was that way. It's not like she had somewhere to go that she was hand surgeon and she had to scrub in twenty minutes. Where the fuck are you going. you're retired. You're putting around in sweat pants. Where are you going to worry. Let him tell the story all right. Let me tell you about hyundai tucson and They've questioned everything to create the best tucson ever. This is really a nice piece. I've been really seriously looking at this car. And it's a ton of car for the money. It's a hyundai tucson and you go to Hyundai com all right. Let's see noticed the car flaw in the movie nobody which i was a good movie streaming and in theaters right. It was yeah in theater son off. it's still is. yeah patrick. Thirty nine x. Men got a car situation in a movie. Yeah i was screaming about it. My wife said. I had to call you because she was sick of listening to me. So they have seventy th the neighbor up odenkirk neighbors seventy three challenger and bragging about the four point nine liter engine which very easily google does not come with that engine and why they all hell the emissions and stuff. Then why would you pick a seventy three. Just didn't make any sense. Yeah displacement big issue you know what. They'll patrick answer for you. Your hundred percent right. I'm sure i don't know anything about this. However the neighbor was portrayed as a bit of a douche. You know what i mean like. He was the annoying guy. Who was the car. That could have been intentional. On the filmmakers part to make it seem like he was clueless idiot because the neighbor was portrayed or kasa. This sort of dum dum great point. Shooting was it as agreed as john. Wick when leg. Ussamma got under the car and went. Oh man that radiator shot to hell the drive. Shafts all busted up like well then you can't drive. It's going to ask same writer. Thank while jesus read right and it is streaming by the way on amazon prime and voodoo solid. Yeah i really wanna see it. Car stuff right. The challenger would add a four twenty six hemi or three ninety six. I don't know that. Seventy and seventy three. It only had a small but swapped it to like a seventy challenge. They could say oh. It's gotta heavier. So was it is bad is wore. The world's when tom cruise was rebuilding as hertz rent a car mustang any had three oh to in his kitchen he was working on instead of the two eighty nine that it came with amazing an attack. That's another engine displacement abortion except for this time they bumped it up a few. cc's c.'s versus with you. They dropped down with the four point. Nine an attack an attack but again k now the fun began nothing could be is egregious is Your transformer movie. The hood was staring it up. She if she's staring at cross ram induction and saying it was a double pumper holly before barrel with with with Oh god what was it. It was a fun fact. Megan fox completely improvised that same. Really no i. Don't i don't know it's all the series cancer talk at me. Got me off my game right. Yeah she was looking over having another baby. She said it was a high rise ships. A high rise simple pumps whether double pumper holly fucking four barrel. Baugh speaking car. Let me tell you about al cam. The always on personal vehicle security system providing constant confidence on and off the road. Sorry but we're living in time people too litigious time you need this product real time connectivity and leading technology even when your car's off and parked you have constant visibility wherever you are. Night infrared sensors for g. l. t. e. connectivity real time. Live view a surveillance and alerts and real time two way. Talk out cam puts privacy first. 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Kinda reminds me story. And i'm i am interested in this subject. Paul thirty six. You have a scientific nation for why we can still identify people with masks on. Yeah how you guys doing A couple of weeks ago. There was that lawyer where we barely saw any of her faith but they ended up through ground who she was. She had assaulted. Somebody at like a black lives matter rally or something like that. She made the point one with the mall tov cocktail. Oh yeah and you made the point like we're so similar to is knows right. Everyone's got bilateral symmetry and their faith. And how is it that we can tell the difference. And there's actually a specific part of our brain called the of use a form facial area that is responsible for picking up on these super minute differences in our faith though that they recognize it's activated and engineers who work on engines injin in the exploded. View i so. I've always been fascinated with it. Struck me god twenty. I think about twenty some odd years ago. Me and jimmy. In kevin of kevin and bean. We went out to miami to watch the super bowl and must've been nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine or ninety eight or whatever and It was at night in the only show i was doing at the time was Love line on mtv and it was at night and we're walking down a boulevard and like somebody like honked their home. They're driving by parola. You know and i thought to myself at the time i thought when i do love line on mtv. I'm sitting. i'm clean shaven. And i'm not wearing a ball cap right now. I'm wearing a ball cap. I'm not clean shaven. And i'm walking around and somebody from their car. Knew it knew it was me now. I got the ace man. Windbreaker with the rainbow tape on the back of and that could have been something. I was just thinking about this the other day because i did Early morning hit on like fox and friends or something. Like i dunno last week and that afternoon i was just standing slow liquor store and i had the mask. The mass spread out on my face and spread out again. I was wearing the ball cap. And i was standing up and some middle aged woman just walked by one girl and i was like. How do you know me. And she went on fox and run smart. And i'm like how. How does that work to really go off of but we we can do it paul. Some i'm glad you reminded me of something entertaining. Thanks for something. That's really advantageous for us. Who have done for survival reasons right like are you angry with me and minute face changes and we were able to tell things about one another now. We've turned it into recognising eachother behind masks interesting. Thanks all right real quick. Can i throw some at ya There it's got a news alert boy. Newsom doesn't want to be recalled. In the worst way he doesn't want to be recalled. I got a news alert from alex. Michelson Gavin newsom tells me california's mandate will almost entirely go away on june fifteenth. And there's a video do you want to watch it. Yeah we should while to. Let's take a break and we'll watch it after the break but whoever your mayor is and whoever your governor is but governor in this case organized a recall like every three years because he say he said two things take your mask off and we're handing money out we'll your money everybody and you take your mask off so okay all right. We'll take a come with that. Maybe august and Big football head right after this. It's time to check adams voicemail down in tempe. I'm just curious how long before the great white shark gets an a name makeover from the world crowd. It probably guy you can leave us a message at eight eight eight six three four one seven four. Four job cartoons. I had to watch all right. We got Gavin newsom look. How look how cash. She is his little v neck and little tussled hair with little love girl mask on all right and are are we looking at masks. After june fifth no only only in those settings that are indoor In those massively large settings Where people around the world not just around the country Are convenient and where people are mixing in real dense spaces. otherwise we'll make guidance recommendations but no mandates and no mandates and no restrictions businesses largest. Were coming from the man who wouldn't reopen disneyland when dizzy or it was like calm here. Check out how we're doing this. Yeah somehow motivated. Oh all right well. Good i mean i never wear a mask anyway. So it's not really gonna affect me but for the little people well and like you said in your neighborhood. I've been really trying to see who's wearing it. When i'm on my walks. Nobody now nobody in valley village studio city. This is remember from a few months ago where somebody was running by me. Yelling mask and would like jog by you that that is a thing of the past. If it's a dude. I just yell tampon tampon site. Yeah i've always. I've always likened it like i said i've been flying commercially alive. And you know you gotta wear the mask and the plane and then soon as they handed out the pretzel. So it's like there's no science behind this. But i was. It's always the thought i had with. Cellphones gave you the whole spiel about powering down. I said if if this is really dangerous they would not let you on the flight with this and if the mask did anything on an airplane they went hand you drinks and pretzels all right Let's see someone wants to know if anyone here has Bitcoin is a deluge josiah coin. Yeah steve atlanta georgia guy. High guy halio eighteen wheelers. Anyone any smokey bear but by the way it's diesel demons are pedal pumpers eighteen wheelers diesel demon. Well established thinks otherwise this guy. Hey sorry so I was just curious. Yeah with all the rage. Must last saturday and the doj coin Get that's been going on and obviously with seeing the rise in theory in which is another Bitcoin based After that i think when i bought in maybe three months ago i sixteen hundred for the one theory. I'm and now it's up to over four thousand in just three months and then obviously with bitcoin. Having been about a year ago is in the high teens. And that was in the mid fifty five thousand. If anybody on the staff has any has gotten into it was curious about it or if you even adam With all of your different diversified portfolio. If you have anything in that at all well now normally we take pole of the staff. But i happen to know the answer because if any of these latkes bought low on bitcoin. Two years ago they'd be long gone long gone although intern ryan evidently has a story. Oh it's so tragic. So i bought a bunch. When does coin. Like the first time i heard about it. I was like whoa for the one time. I'm going to be in early on this thing. And if close up. Like i mean. I'm going to have so much money. So i put like four hundred bucks into it at like one point. One point two cents or something like that and now it's at like i don't know sixty but anyway i put a limit sell on it so bas- basically like okay. If it ever gets to ten cents. Then i'll just sell and like whatever four x my money. I missed zero. And so i put a limit sale at one cent. Gherardi was passed that so just immediately sold. And i was just so frustrated that i just said okay. I'm not of the game. What would it be worth today somewhere. Close to like fourteen thousand dollars. Wow yeah oh one-sided hm sixty times the financial thing. Jean hypothetical on on the date. I'm going to keep adding onto these. Go away empty. The ashtrays dawson struck boy. Okay now ashtrays so. I hear cy pathetic okay. All right so. I'm going to add a third to the guys you don't wanna go on that first date. Okay so Ralph's club card on the keychain uber placard down in the windshield the car rolls up third chooses not to go back to work because making more money from home with the government given the checks oh investing for disability. Ssi no just like. I'm gonna go back to the starbucks. In sherman oaks. And i'm actually getting more staying here. There's a big issue because we're not people said this we we have this. We have unemployment. Which is big but we also have businesses simultaneously begging for employees and the theory. Is we pump so much money into so many people and it's it's anecdotal but i've heard from a lot of people have little business. Their employers are going forward. I'm saying to tour in the newsroom arizona offering. I think it was full-time college. Tuition for people to come back and work at like restaurant. Yeah so making more at home than you would be on the job. I can answer this and it comes down to all three of those come down to not how. How do i personally feel about it. But how do i explain it. How would i explain it to. My parents knew not his only real cork ralph's car might go fuck you. What are you talking about. This guy's great niece. Tammy or he's a hard worker you know when he's not you know he has a side hustle when he's not dating you always you know picking people up. Take him to the airport this one. I could not yeah. I couldn't explain this to my family. Only make turned on. Your makes more stan home. So that is absolutely number. One with a bullet couldn't do because i couldn't explain it in california. It'd be but now he. He's writing. He's working on his script and he's no no no good all right. So that's the bottom of the new one called cards. The top well see club card. Used to be the deal breaker for me but now i think it goes staying home. Clubcard clubcard man gives me a he so weird one. Because i would think you know. People are known for their frugality. And that's fine but you have to flaunt it. I look at this later. Oh sure it is. Yeah it's old story. But i did i did. I'll make it quick when i did buy coffee. Tea for all the writers camel and The lady at the coffee bean and tea leaf wanna know if i wanted a car and have it pon china's like now i'm a winner and one of the writers behind me punch my card. I said now. Sorry coffee here as long as you're about bitcoin do you remember. I know the answer is no so. Does anybody here remember when you well. We're getting sued by the patent trolls. I donated the one fraction of a bitcoin. I had to the cause. Which at the time. I have not how much it was worth looks at recently. It's it's a couple thousand dollars that was my contribution to the to the fight. Thank you but we are now. Yeah i mean it means more than really should've held onto that and just run a check. Shit our august On zoom oh. August is on zoom driving whereas august is at home his co. his his connections always always do that. That's why we haven't gone zoom out there. I don't see anything on the screen. It's going to be audio okay. Great he just said kay Mike no mike. He's talking about you. You fuck as take your self off mute. Just in case that's the thing is his cellphone never works right or is it his earpiece or is any. Let me try. Yeah there were some issues today with his His i thought it was his earpiece but it was phone and it was just doing that. It would just cutting out so let me try to get another call all right. It's always i attempt to talk to mike probably once a day on the phone and it never goes well. Yeah but every once in a while you get that shooting star and you get to hear him throw down highway. Yep and it makes it all it all worthwhile. All right donny. Deutsch is going to join us. He's the advertising guru. Wanna talk about what's going on in the world of advertising. Because i'm very interested in yes and also i thought you'd be particularly interested in. It says that his ikea commercial in the ninety s featured the first gay and interracial couple in a tv ad. And i know we talk about that a lot now and it's like super we're used to it so he might have some thoughts about that. Yeah i saw one. The other day that caught my notice was the black woman with the white dude. Dude was like staying home and taking care of the kids and the black woman going off on like a business trip. The dude had a man bun he had a man bun. That's where we're at all right. We'll see if we can summon. Michael mattel you about Hyundai tucson that's right. They questioned everything. Great the best tucson ever every inch of the all new tucson has been completely reimagined resulting in an suv loaded with innovations inside and out. Oh i know. I sat in this car with the aforementioned mike for quite some time the other week and we were impressed from designed technology to safety every aspect of the new tucson has been improved and completely redesigned digital key allows you to use your phone as a spare key user profiles a ten inch plus ten quarter inch full touch infotainment screen which is really works. I mean i just sat in this current went all the way through. Led daytime running lights stylish hidden in front of the front grill. The car looks good. The car is so much technology and the price is unbelievable. unday dot com is where you go all right. This max. patta have a read on mike. We do not have internet right now. Just went down. Oh yeah somebody. That's just call mike. But his phone never his earpiece. I don't know what it is with some other when talking to a phone. Yeah just tell them to call them up and put it put the phone up to the side of his head somebody. I don't know if anyone saw this but i should. Somebody tweeted me like have internet problems. Use this desk or used this thing. That elon musk. I think came up with or maybe maybe it was from milan. I think that's what it said. But it's like you need. One of these are our thing is we just get punished by the internet here. And the the answer is always the internet's no good where you guys are anyway which is fine but we should probably do something about it and we always talk about doing something about it but we never do anything about. Your options are limited by like a monopoly of spectrum. Has this area. At and t. as this area and well that's definitely what's going on. But we should be able to overcome this right. Mike's on line one us going to be a disaster mike. Yeah go ahead and talk. I'm here all right behind enemy lines. Where are you of course like we can't even get a phone call. Are you at home. How does how does it work. That only mike cannot be spoken to on the phone. Even when he's i've talked to him when he's hitting a bucket of balls that the range. I still can't understand fucking word. He's saying what is that and he's not on a headset either. I had his house. Yeah mike doesn't work. They are real quick. Defend yourself against. Mike lynch is home attack. Come on track was seen as a hunting cabin took forever. What why is it. Undoable with mike and the phone i by the way i talk to him about business all day. This is disaster. Does he have t mobile or some bubble phone compound. I was going out to dinner last night. I call them like eight happened and we just never spoke again. This could be like a horrible. Sitcom situation gone awry. He's going don't do it. Don't sign it. And all you hear is due at signing cricket wireless mike strive one more time. Oh where you at focused on the free state of orange cabinet all right now. You walk into another room or something or this is on zoom now. Okay okay all right so sorry defend yourself against you saying that lynch should destroy his home that spent so much sweat equities his home country. One thousand nine hundred sixty should been allowed in jesus christ and putting extension so the defense. I didn't say that it's that. I stand by. It really should a level. Yeah he just got seventy grand over asking for that house. Well seventy over build the says you're going out there two years and fifty home so he had a real estate. You didn't tell you what. I really don't do do jaded film so back living that he wanted to go full rocker files and tear down the master bedroom master. Bath dying living room. You can have austrian herself you can have a playroom. You're likely get three thousand percent better. Well you know The joke's on you mike. Because he sold it he got over asking and he's moving into a bigger house. Wait a second. Could you could be the one laughing last. Because maybe they're buying it for the dirt. Now okay you'll be gone tomorrow. Well now back over with your core formative lucked. Out mike i tactfully broach that subject with mike lynch. Oh oh do not think. The mike voice is ringing has been ringing my ear. Ever since he said like we're moving out we're think about selling the house and then we sold it and of course i'm thinking okay. What's going on here. So i said oh. Who's moving in. If he said you know some old fat rich white guy or something then developer. He said it's a young couple wanting to start a family. Mike of hunchback's role year. I don't know all right donny. Deutsch is on. The blur mica. We going to anchorage july third coups. Anchorage i'm so jealous. I've always wanted to go to. What are we going to do. They're we're gonna we're gonna fish. We're gonna chase by bears. We're gonna a starry night coups. And it's going to be oss and we're staying in a lodge or something. We're forced to the outback way. Bristle bay watch for a couple of days. That would come in anchorage. That's on here at stays light twenty two hours a day so they will find you twenty two hours of work to do. You got me job on a tuna bar or something wrong craft. Yeah i'm sure. All those yellow bruce all right so Anchorage coots july third. In mike's defense wasn't what we thought it was going to be wasn't out just how agreements i told you jury would convict. Michael call you later. Thanks we'll see talk. We like he's talking about you. Fuck not all right donny. Deutsch as well. You know donny deutsch. We'll talk all about advertising with him right after. Hey geiko do you own durant do one or the other right. you know. it's hard workout their own. Renton you want to save some money. How about your bundle. Bundle your policies at geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle the homeowners renters insurance along with your auto policy. Good thing too because you got so much do already go to geico dot com. Get a quote. See just how much you could save at geiko. 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Guilty All The Same

The Brilliant Idiots

1:48:13 hr | 2 weeks ago

Guilty All The Same

"Yep charlemagne got andrew schultz. We ought to brilliant idiots in. Today's show is sponsored by squarespace from websites and online stores. The marketing tools and analytic squares faces the all in one platform to build a beautiful online presence and run your business. There are no hidden fees a price hikes and all websites optimized for mobile in. It's so simple. Start with a designed template and use drag and drop tools to make it. Your own head describes based dot com slash india for free trial. And when you're ready to launch offer code idiot to save ten percent off your first purchase. Now let's start the show okay. Has he's here in the build waxes. He'll tell again is here. We were having a discussion before the podcast started about Gaining weight Trying to inform. Taylor taylor was talking about someone and you know talking about how banging the person's body is and i said very true very true but it was even better at one point in life. I don't know nothing right so mine. My whole thing would tell is you can go from fun size. The family size real quick with just a few poor choices affect you. Know what i mean and i think when you're young you don't realize that when you're young you just you know eating all times at night and i've seen tell eaten salt and vinegar chips at nine in the morning wax. Now mind you shame in wax for being fat because wax gained a little bit won't come on this but you understand how much i still work out. I burn the whole lot of college now. I know nobody born and more often than you to think they guarantee all right. He's older now. He don't metabolism slow down still used do right now. You can't compare me to people or that got sucked up that gain all that weight and i'm not gonna take mine off bro. I don't know if you've seen your waistline lately. I'll dude by shit but i'm gonna give you a couple more weeks. I'm back in july. We gotta take it off on your shirt. Take off looking different. I'm still jerseys cold. I'm just a man. Let me see that body bro. Do can you beat drake. Drake is chisel bro. Yeah the guy. Had a shirtless pick on plants. Rommedahl right now. It's cheating so you can't even do that to know. Got their ramadan is so exactly. That's that's definitely why not doing ramadan. That ask like half of the Ramadan so drake got. He's as cut. Anybody lost working now. Who is really not like that this. Yeah he looks like he's in good shape arm saying as you talk a lot of shit about how you're in good shape wax but you're not willing to Who i really don't wanna do that right now but i don't blame you all young listening chicago like yoga pants. You got a little bit too much on. The side is going on around the die areas. All i really don't take shoot off just know that i'm doing i. He toys that difference right now. I wasn't working when i told my. Acl landeck in a bed and wife who was pregnant up so it was like she kept feeding me eating. I was eating the bid to everything's smells smelling all good. I did some pounds now back on my feet. And i'm back racing pit bulls. So let's go. I don't know bro. Utah your acl. Your achilles my days. Lizzy achilles no man much. Kelly's two different things. Who fucking god. Damn an abbreviation kill you song all the bones and stuff to solve the moans. The left Something because they don't know acl's in that they got the hippos bone divulge connected to league bowlers. Let me pull up somewhere. I don't remember hearing no goddamn. Acl mentioned that's also. What's it called bone song and guys. We really not going to talk about the decision bro. The verdict we get to that. I just warming up. I didn't want to come in. I'm saying bro bones. Come in high heaters the late yesterday. Devil devil shaaban derek. Chauvin i mean. Listen i'm gonna be honest with you. I was shocked. I didn't expect him to get off. Only because when you see other police officers testifying against police officer which rarely ever happens when you see other. Police officers testified against another police officer. I'm like oh. He bought the he definitely about to get hit. This meant even when the verdict came back as fast as it did. I was like okay. He's clearly guilty. 'cause all the jordan on the same page. I didn't expect guilty on all charges. I'm going to be honest with you. That was that was a shocker. Nei-neither the yeah. Yeah yeah yeah it was. I don't know for whatever reason. I wasn't shocked at all really. Yeah break nuit. I knew we were going to get it right this time show. I mean i thought we would get it right. I just didn't think it would be guilty on all charges. Guilty on all charges means that they're not taking no accountability for nothing like it's all his fault yes to him. He's not yeah he's not. He's not with us no more under the bus. He did everything wrong like not. This is going to be one of those cases that is used in future cases right yes. Violence works okay all that peaceful protests should as cute. But when you start fucking things up people consider that when decision needs to be made and maybe even the police consider that when they got to testify against one of their brothers. Do you think when you our way. What do you think it was the moment to meaning like. We've seen these videos before we've seen videos with men. Black men black women on tape you know. He seemed videos a white dude's on tape. Ganz shot as well. They still got off. Yeah but the at the moment right like last year everybody sitting still during the pandemic. Nobody really can going nowhere. Everybody's glued to their tv's everybody's glued to their phones. It's like it was a moment where you couldn't just brush it off and be like. Oh i got other shit to do like. Everybody has his face dan. Yes i agree with you like so many people knew about it. Whether as many others where you know if we bring a name up today you guys might have no clue who it is. I have no clue. Who is everybody knew about this. One and the video was so agreed gis and everything was there. All the evidence was was there was needed. But also the fact that like we've seen cities get fucked up for months. I think people are over that regardless of how they feel and this is the most egregious example of a cop fucking up caught on video. Like i think even people who might have felt a little bit of empathy for derek chauvin. I don't even know how you could. But even those people who might have been like all cop to cop can never do anything wrong even day. We're like man. i'm not trying to. Cd cities get burned down again. Fuck that blocked motherfucker up throwing the key under the jail. Let's get back to where Let's get back to quote unquote normal or safe situations where we don't feel like the cities are gonna burn. I really think people were afraid of the city's bernie this is this is this would like victory. Feel like i don't feel it. I don't know i'm so used to feel an injustice. I don't even know what justice field. I thought i'd be more excited. I'd be more like like supposed to be excited. You shouldn't be excited for the supposed to happen. That's what that's what we're talking about earlier like. You're not excited that he got that he got convicted. Right you're excited. You're like yeah. That's that's what happened like the light turns green after it's red. You don't get excited. But i was definitely off though as other cops get and i was like i'm not. I'm not excited over that. You know what i'm saying. I was really pissed off. So i thought i have more excitement like the way i was when i was married. I can tell you. i don't have excitement. I mean listen. i'm happy. I'm happy that yesterday. No for for in that situation you know justice was served to meet. That was a one off because until there's some real police reform yes in place where police officers are always being held accountable in that way. This shit is gonna continue to happen because you know what i mean. I don't know. I don't even know if it's a good start. It's a good start. If it's actually a shift in our culture that causes some real police reform to go down and it seems like right now maybe just maybe it seems like republicans and democrats might be on the same page in regards to getting some police reform going. You know the only last year when the democrats had the. George floyd policing atkin. Tim scott had his bill. I forgot what his bill was called. But from what. I was told a lot of people like the republican bill. More the only difference was the republicans didn't want to get rid of qualified immunity. Which i think you think you get rid of qualified immunity man and all of these. These cops got on. Their mind is pensions and prisons. They're gonna think twice bro. You go think twice when you in their field. If you know that if i kill this guy kill this woman and you know practice involved is gonna come out of my pension in the fucking few jobs the end up in prison. You going to think twice breath and i think i think that's the change that this makes. I don't think that there's going to be any like legislative change. I just think there's going to be behavioral change because cops are going. Oh shit we could go to prison to. Nah what the law applies to meet. Two hundred percent bro. Let's see say what. I'm i wanna be positive on this too. I've read three stories day. People getting shot. He did this woman call. You believe this woman caught the boyfriend that that white lady cop carrying coptic thought. She had her as her out. Shot the do that was last week. Yeah but she going to go down to. She's going for 'em soothsayer she should so you're going to start to see accountability happy and the court and the second happens in courts. This is how life works. The second people realize there are repercussions for their actions. They start to change are actually. But it's just like children right like if you don't punish your kid he's gonna keep fucking up until he finds out where the limits are never had those limits really and now that they're starting to see those limits schick going change. I would rather i feel you. Would i would rather some legislation to go with it. You know what i'm saying station you want you can't. You're already not supposed to kill black people already against the law. But if you implement the george floyd policing you ban the chokeholds you know what. I'm saying you will find other ways. It's like what wasn't that was not told you. Take away qualified immunity. You take away qualified immunity and now you you. A police officer are solely responsible. Not taxpayer dollars. not insurance. no nothing they should come out of your pension if you're found guilty and you fuck up it's on we all know money baby. It's hot set us. Whatever holds you wanna use use whatever the fuck you wanna do but if you kill somebody who's not trying to attack you in any way you go to prison so you might want to choose your whole carefully a show. All you need is accountability. Subtitle take to- colds and take these types of things. Just tell them on the bugs view choke someone and they die. You're going to jail for that. Feel hundred percent but what we're trying to do and i think we're missing something. Yes you should punish cops when they do that kind of shape but we want to prevent people from getting killed. You know what i'm saying. So in order to prevent people from getting killed it starts with making the decision before he decided to put somebody in a choke hold our before he decides to pull up with his gun out not even assessing the situation to see if kids doing this fake kid got a gun in his hand or whatever it is you know what i mean like. I can't just make an excuse. Like oh i grabbed my taser and i meant to grab a gun like god damn like. We can't use that as an excuse to us as she was no. We'll grab and broke. Her baby took an and set it off because the baby drunk some bleach dome eighty drunks bleaching. They took the baby low. Yeah yeah yea chance. In a mistake is a mistake. She gotta go to police. The only people who were malpractice doesn't seem to apply. Like if i go to the fucking doctor get my my tonsils removed and wake up with no dick shit out of the hospital. Doctors will lose their licenses and shit like that like it's the only place malpractice doesn't apply like you know i'm sorry i grabbed my gun instead of mateja on situation though. Is that like you still going to have to get. Utah's taken out. Go have to go in and get your top hold dig not remove their time to we got no fucking care about titles for shit you be having to do. A lot more sucking. I don't even know what thompson of google now. After need that voice real people even get their tonsils removed. They used to be back in the day. I think i think we stopped growing tonsils. Bro word they. We stopped growing tonsils. Broke i never hear no more but like you got your tonsils taken out. I know people have thomas. Tonsils fucking measles and chickenpox. All that shit gone joe. That's true kids still get chicken pox yet to get the vaccine every year. That's why we're not every year but when you go back to school his every year not kids get to got to get the vaccine at some point when he starts school. I think i start school. Oh we got chicken. Pox vaccine chickenpox me shit when i was younger i just had to get chicken pox. They had it when we had it when he was younger everybody clap. Meanwhile person got everybody got now. You'll get no more exactly. That's how it works wasn't your younger age and i'm trying to basically say what year we talking. How young elementary school. Bo remember getting them to the chicken pox. Measles shots back then brown afforded measles shots who fuck megan migos migos measles anymore. But this model shot to offset goddamn. Was this hat in. School was shut the thing that turned you on arm red bulletin new around. Then you've gotta leave the school what it has some schools. They have some out there. The air ego to berkeley los the chickenpox vaccine didn't become available until one thousand nine hundred. Five listen. I care about them in kobe bro without in the eighties bro around. Nah mine lotion. All over my fucking body remember. Ask school abe. i got chicken pox. I would've nineties. I mean chicken but what about. Measles hold on charleston. You didn't even have dirt roads in fucking the nineties. What are you talking about. You had a vaccine for chicken pox. What about measles. They had vaccines something. Yeah they had vaccines for measles. What year what. Year was measles young eight. Now that should probably sixties may have been around three nine hundred sixty three less for what about you. Want to say freckle juice. What about recco juice was frankel juicy. I never read the book freckle juice. No with a guy who used to drink because he wanted to get freckles. Remember thinking that you all you got to get. The measles broke the same thing. When did you start having friends young you would you have. What else does every childhood book broke. The lunar ross doll all but no so you think this is going to lead to some type of real change shows. I think it could lead to real change in the immediate future and then that could go back like think about it like Just like kids right like you punish the kid. The kids like okay. I'm not gonna do anything and then you don't punish it for a while. It starts to see how far they could go so as long as we are consistently holding people accountable for breaking the law. There this change will exist in our lives if we let people get away with it. Then it won't so the pressure has to be on every time a you know. Somebody is breaking the law. It's that simple future. You going to see change like that girl who taught. She grabbed her tasers and then shot anyway. Put her behind bars to you as a teenager. She knew the fuck. You've been on the force twenty six years. that's a rookie mistake brooke. She wanted that hit bro. Yeah mcvay said that he said feel like every spring is like hunting season on on black people like yourself and i thought somebody else say it's almost like it's a a sick ritual like some people doing it's weird but i don't know i still would feel more comfortable with some type of police reform in place because it's just really it's really about a mindset right like even when i look at the situation happened in ohio yesterday real fucked up situation right But it's tricky because yo if you get a police you're gonna phone call. You know that that that that a woman out here tacking people with a knife and you pull up and you to cops and you just you just see this woman wielding a knife. In on a couple people. I saw one person hit the ground and she had another woman up against the car that last she was about to stab. I thought the cops should a used his tasers. He shot four times kilty young lady. You know what i'm saying. So my whole thing is like right and they got approach every situation when it comes to black people. Every situation in certain communities would fatal forces the first option. I guess no other. There's no other option ever like yo. She got a knife like a tesa wouldn't work on a sixteen year old. You know. I mean number just in foresight and then you telling me that and to some people. He's probably a hero right because he did. Save a woman from getting stabbed. But then i'm looking. He shot four times shot. He was shot. The woman also was trying for allegedly safe. You know what i mean and then four four thousand nine accessible for somebody with a knife. Not if if if somebody was going to stab my daughter i don't care if it's a man or woman but i don't care how old they are but if they're going to stab my daughter with a knife and a cop shot that person before they could stop person who's always go you. I think it's wrong to conflate these two cases because one is so egregious the misuse of power and the other one is doing their job. If you want check conflicting the cases. I'm just simply saying regardless of what. That situation was in ohio. It seems like fatal force is always the first option when it comes to black people. Sure that's all if it's it does seem that way and you have every right to believe that way because we seeing these stories pop up over and over and over again that being said if there was somebody who's trying to stab your daughter and you had a gun pop pop. You're not reaching for your taser. Do anything to my daughter with a fucking debt. Listen i'm with you. don't even own party. Sama daddy if that was a white person probably would have went down a little different. I mean we saw video and other data white dude pulled out told the cob get the fuck away from his the white people. All people are are shit different different. We the shit different. They are listening because again is different is different is different. I've seen i've seen white people chase cops with knives in the cops. Are we guys. Like what does should rule for them. You should roofer those white people brought. Because they're you know they just they try to bring justice they see the cops fucked up today. Taken fucking law in their own hands bro. I guess that's my thing to do right. It's like we've seen cops. It's not like cops man up right like we. We always talk about how cops have training know cops know how to use your screen when they want to. Yes you know what i'm saying. Cops know how to deescalate situations when they want to training for them. But it's like they pull up in certain communities they see certain shades and they like papa. Let's let's let's let's ask questions later. They see black. That's all wearing coming to you and tell you something else. I'm gonna tell you not only on police reform carrio horn her law caros law that she got passed in buffalo new york because she was a sister who intervened of while the cobb was choking on a black guy that needs to to a cop right. Yeah he was a cop. she's got it. She got her back off. The judge ruled in favor. She she she. That law needs to be national especially in light of the george floyd situation because now that we see if they're service convicted of murder that makes every cop on seeing a goddamn accomplice. Spiracy bro every also go down You think each one of them should also go down they. They all got charges. They all go. They go to court nagas interesting. Yeah they go to court nominee said. You sat around and watched for nine minutes moment. I got no point the. Us company like bro. Nobody's human bear with the fuck. You wiling to me if you about the shield if you fuck about the she you as a cop you're gonna stop derek chauvin because you don't want that stain on your on your department. You know what people looking at you like that because it makes your job harder in the future. That's all so. I like caros law. I think that you know those cops need to be held accountable if this guy to choose the murder an accomplice if i'm wax i'm gonna andrew and they commit murder and i didn't try to stop them. I didn't call the police or anything after they come in to get my ass as accomplish anyway. Ni- depends on might have to defend. Br listen i just can't sit around and watch try to watch out a man of principle. It depends on why we out it went out. No no nothing. I ain't gonna work in a court of law man. close your imagine. I don't know nothing but we don't know nothing either. One hundred years ham getting we don't know how long he's going to be right exiting getting time row like how much he's the one. Shot had a maximum of forty years. Another maximum a twenty five another had a maximum. Ten-man mall a half. You're going to get. He's going to get some goddamn tom. We we're not talking about the real shit drills you to rail jail over on him killing himself. Yeah yeah he might kill him out. I don't think he might kill himself. He lost you love. His wife left him. He ain't gonna sit. There might be out. He's already put him on suicide. Watch this morning i. I actually posted that yesterday. I was like. I hope they put this dude on suicide watch. They put him on this morning smashed in jail and let them kill herself. The moment be allowed to kill yourself. No stop you all. Let you kill yourself. The cop-out borough shoestrings all that stuff in jail. They know people try to do a. It's my body my choice but don't get locked up and go jump off a bridge then you know what i'm saying. I'm saying my body my choice. Why can't you make that choice. Which are body praising. Always say giannis you to sell for a little bit. You know what. I'm saying like a capo easy to suffer a little bit. You know what i mean. Like like the only way that she would have made sense to me if somebody would have popped him in that moment when he was on top of derek chauvin on top of george floyd. If somebody would have did it to him like that that would that would out. That would have seemed like you know at least some different form of justice but if you get found guilty like he did and then he killed himself. It's like now. I wanna see you get them. Forty years bro. And i'm saying what isn't isn't the death penalty a harsher sentence differ for years. Really do you do the time. And after the fact they don't just kill you on death row. Awhile i'm saying. Do we really want to pay for this guy to eat three meals a day. Read a bunch of books like learn some jerk off. I want him to get beat up in jail. You gotta put him in a position to beat up. They don't protect them. The honestly there might be connection between the ceo's and cops and they might look after like is a lot of this. This is the challenge. We need to have brilliant idiots. You know andrew has challenged. Jay williams be challenged our rivas one time. He thinks he can do heart surgery and gotta go to jail. Twenty five never been in a maximum security prison twenty four hours because andrew always talks about prison. Light work like lert charlemagne. Hey everybody better watch their cheeks. 'cause i'm coming to collect now their so. You gotta walking in the near aggressive. Come into fox. i'm here for one purpose. I got twenty four. What is it do. who lost group. Then i was gonna grab my ankles. Talk shows walking down white rob. Okay and i'm all right. I've got twenty four descru- got twenty four hours to give this dick Yeah i'm coming through the opposite handle. Okay rob marciano not playing games over here. Then you see the you realize them powell bottoms. That have been in there doing fucking nine hundred squats day. Put dig right in here. So i can break it off in these sheikhs. Try to. that's why i say try to. I see you got rob before. So he what have you ever got rob before yes. I have gone robs. You isn't in has you. I gave him got gotta do anything. They'll never is one knows united scared and everything else. I saw one robbery jail two different things. I'd rather rob me right now. Take everything here. Yeah you can have. It just went around me though if you just go into robbie guy what i'm saying is you talking when i go to jail. Taylor like is different. Alpha dog is now imprisoned. Like the apex predator is imprisoned on high alert andrea bro. Say what you do you. Washington draws in jail. We go need to. Because i'm sheets going to be mighty messy afterward. I do things. Are these ropes. And you get hill winning games until his the forty park. Andrew won't fucking running end up in jail for something silly right like some dumb and he gonna walk in and it's going to be a bunch of people in the whole cell like yea me. Oh you're going to go in there. I'm a sizable up. I'm gonna. I'm gonna smell them because i can. I'm gonna let them know that he always enough to door. Push thousand clips day thousand pushups day to forty. That's the small man on there. Yeah and i'm gonna tell him. You better keep that shit because if i catch you slippin this of rap for you told me listen know. It's too big dog bow. Wow okay is different when i come in. The room is different. I am going to be even more. If you find yourself in a cell with somebody who says nah listening push. I listen to you. Look at that now. You definitely not only you washing draws you wash washing the inside cheeks. yeah man. it's going to be a guy that make you wash his balls off before he make you sucker labral danny going to do it. You watching draws in the sink. Brian sank naked dot son. I'll be like that And what are you in. Hey please go to jail. Let's all go to jail. First thing i do. I'm walking into the town hall or whatever the shit is where everybody gets to hang out with all shit. Who have a meeting broke out of this this guy. I don't work like that. I walk into the rec room. I'll say what you guys watching you watching judge judy. I beg you cut that shit off. i'm going to turn that shit off right there and just got set. A precedent set a precedent. Say which you say to them. Say what would you say to them after that. Yeah what's the next move after they tell you fuck you. I'm oh fuck me. That's what i'm here for your yacht as a. That's what i'm here for asking for. Just slowly just start overpowering. Motherfuckers jalen rose and i never been to prison. I only within the county the county. The county is more than the county for forty five days in monks corner south carolina. Here bro. and when you seventeen years old and you in the county the county ain't no joke crazy part of had to really think and that's the crazy thing about the whole thing. Gel is not really hard. We don't know you gotta think what are you. Keep saying. Jails not hard you got it. That's the problem. People got really think about nothing bugging. Charlemagne listen world is okay my manage. I forget. We got alex alex bird. He's done hard time. But i just want to let you know. Life is hard time to load kinda crees. This guy's international criminal open up a business on in new york city. So tell me you can't rebound from a little stint in prison. All i gotta say it's charlemagne you and are built different. You're right you might go with a jail jail. You might go to jail and it might be tough for you but you boy. He goes into jail. Jail sucks so much. That i did forty five days and other times i went for like weekend stints no as soon as i walked out with. Just throw up. Got back in this motherfucker. Every time i can sing again in the mirror by the thought. I said not a fucking again. We take in all seriousness. I can't go to prison to prison. I do not want to go to prison. I will do anything. I can't do jokes to everybody is not happening. I don't know what do i don't know how act. I don't know why but i will do everything in my power to avoid going to prison. Why why you think. In his heart and life. I think life is hard and imprisoned. His son they are. Life is a whole whole lot hard. What are you talking about. Just have to deal with this life. And i wouldn't much rather deal with life freed inside but that's what you rather the jails actually easier. No is not wax you bucket. We don't do that because we don't want to sit down and think that's our problem. Nobody wanna fucking think bigger right now. Think about this case scenario. He's paid for us right now. That all that life is hot in jail. Say a being out here. You've got to do more of everything you in jail. You sit and you gotta assume. E life was harder than jailed in jail. Wouldn't be a punishment but yeah do nothing but life is actually hard you can find me right no windows. Nothing else nothing. That's what i'm saying. You just gotta bring out or do that do solitaire. I come on what you say is probably hard because people got to think if you got if you sitting there what's really hard about sitting eczema lacks what you're saying. There's no distraction. So you're left with your thoughts and if your thoughts things that plague you then it's gonna be really difficult. Yeah y'all need to grow y'all y'all need to try tation you don't have to go to jail to think sign. I just did ice bath yesterday. Bro i should is is love it. I've never done. It never did ice gun float their belief you this but you know why not is baptist dope because you're folk. You're forced to focus on one thing. Which is you're trying to war but you just stuck in that stat bet mindset of focusing on one thing. That's what full therapy does for me. That's what brain training does for me. Therapy does just sit there. And i'm still wanting to go to jail to do that bro. I think i think you're right. I wanted to link. Life is hard and because only your breathe you something next couple hours. That's what they're going to tell you. When you got your fucking pants around your ankles in jail weren't about this shit. You know what i'm saying. I'm good thank. You could run into like an alpha male like me if you were in prison and the my situation everybody only people go after my easy like if you go on their little chess boom easy do my. Why some line like the fog. Lions now you don't gorillas like the fugger mandated out the to each other to the seat and jews gone. You hit up not me. I'm not a sheep. Why you think i'm machine on the wolf will give me the you'd be you're bugging. I'm the bear s right in in waxes the rabbit rabbit rabbit in the woods. They wiped their address right. Eddie murphy raw delirious. I don't remember you can't catch me in a jail. There's nowhere you can run wax wax might be. You might be like top tier trade in jail. They might. They might be somebody in prison waiting on. Somebody like you to walk in. Two thousand yeah. Nobody's nobody regardless you know life is just like in jail is just like in the streets. You're not going to go after somebody like me and the streets by me you go to the all in jail you even like the small guard is always tell me his whole. I like biting people. That's my biggest for me. All the little goes exactly They're not paying attention to they have to have the rule fight on their hands. Nobody wanna get fucked up nigga. Bigamy he no he wanted to go fucking problem. Why not go out to this little ass. Fish real quickly not trying to trying to just trying to follow. They're not trying to you trying to beat. She thought to ask. Somebody doesn't want to have sex with you. All they want to do is make out. No all they do is kiss a little bit bro lakes impacts and like just kinda squeeze your butt cheeks. Maybe opened up cheeks. Aaron okay. what is the great scenario. Solta love what if what if you're in jail wax and it's the guy your size and every time you see him. He makes eye contact with jacking off. The ain't tried another way every time he hit. He's he's making eye contact with you in jacking off. How do you handed. I'm sure he does that to everybody. So on those on got a mental problem. When i wanna do to him. I'm gonna think about this. I'm not going to stoop to his level. And get the fuck out the way i i got i liz. They know how to close you. Just gonna let them beat off to you brown. Close my eyes. So i have to look like that's all i mean i'm looking and i'm gonna get mad. I close my eyes. I don't see nothing because you're enjoying it like you like Cookie lost touch me. Everything is always that he'd be in jail ammo. Oh backs thank god. Bless you brother. Would it be less role play bully. Ubp's cell he just like we. Al always get away if this is my celie. Yes it sound. When i was locked up in the county i was in winning him. Hobson and the airport had like fifteen people in it will just one ball head do with goatee. Every night. he would go into his blanket and yet and we'd be in there playing cards. He wouldn't give a fuck if the life was out. No nothing crazy. That's where you know so point mental problem minding my business leaders motherfuckers along. I don't know if you able to show another megan meet got fucking problem. Wait a minute the fuck you show another million me for all the time. He was naked in the locker room with football players. You wait a minute you naked. They were looking at your was shot people. You may have a fucking your homeboys. They you meet anybody. It's all yours you can you show somebody you meet. Something's wrong with you. You take another man you meet them on over like this watching my band. Get ready or watching him. Smashed the girl. You're showing him. You mean you don't see it you just don't see it as you don't see. Let me. flashback his flashback. About oh three oh four. I'm a crip knocking. I'm knocking on his not his bedroom door. I didn't know what he was doing. This is not going to door wax answers the door. We're just a t shirt on when you to pull style hardwood a kandhamal turned around where you did what i just turn around and laugh or shut up go left sit in your till god so this is even clearly as as he answered the door because he clearly within the middle of the sex but my point was he opened the door wide. He didn't know who's on outside of the dog this when he saw me. Oh shit he just stood. There ain't no fucking stand up probably yo. Hey what's up. We had a conversation. It wasn't a car body. I'm getting the fuck out here. So why did do shit like that all the time but nobody was exhibition at my meat. You know your exact words was if you throw your meat out in front of another man something wrong with you. I did pull out. If i'm the was out you didn't cover it up man. This is a different way. you smash. He's like in the everybody is on the girl who the fuck is by another man. I going door. you answered the door. Which addict bro. You don't fucking. That's the old man i am jim naked. You've seen them eat all the time you looked not when you know i'd never looking for you look always by. The way is very hard not to look at the old men in the gym. Digby lou. You look i looked. I've looked god. Thank you thank you for not cursing me with that. Little last got his boosts brook. Don't tell them their growers say so. You don't know if they're growers. And also i always look at dick's man. You got to know where you stand you stand. There are no shows. He's got a really blocked. I'm gonna take a look at your dick bro. Wherever you stand is where you stand. That's what god gave. You just have fun with as much as you. Can you say that because you got a decent. If you wanted them old men. Dick's and jim you'd be like she. La got probably got all the money in the world and do nothing about that. Dick's is that's what's fucked up right. We can go get breast when we can go gain gives. Hey no dick enlarge but we can go get rich is now. You can get Is actually brad's vinegar. You poor brags vinegar on your meat for ten days straight and get bigger to this. Come on bro. I mean this liquid some guy named dick but this this whole this whole like this but brags going sunday street and it's like it's like soaks. Ncnb make it bigger. I've never heard a man entice people in prison away. Wax has on this podcast. Now's me i mean. Now just going to close his eyes and home for you. he's gonna see them his dick with a little vinegar this a free man another man where you are man right now in this podcast probe well man they ready for you in jails all across america. You miss a point to. He knocked on the door. You're not getting the point of like your mom talking about you. Think my mom around out. They'll have sex my mom's around and my mom's jersey. I knew it wasn't my mom is probably somebody girl. No no no Listen is retarded. Today i used to do stupid shit when i'm smith. Everybody know like. I used to walk onto question and grab. Don't know what god blessed after seeing charlemagne did you maintain your erection to go down to roll hard. So let's see the first six three okay was right there. Fine what the fuck. I can't believe you guys in the locker room. I can't believe what do do you mean. Petty does this every chance. I'm not saying that you you look. Do thank you. you're alive. i've seen. He asked me. This is at your house or in a hotel room no. He said he's never seen another man's dig fans in the locker room dad look at it purposely. Seen my dick. When i was in your you got the job at the job at the job. Was this just teasing but competitive. You know what. I mean you pull up to an airport you want check out what you look at someone's luggage and then you look at their luggage. Brought us to make it bigger. Yes i try to compare it. You know what. I'm saying other than that. This is what god gave me. If i know is not going to change melita. i should've i i. I'm looking at the guy feet. Like i can't say it's not the lobby. We talked about that. You can't because girls if you look at these guys as people try to compare by roles change the if they like this girl titties can trailer cities taylor. Yeah what do you think is more gay looking at another dick looking at other man's feet louisiana the day fees what it depends how you feel about those feet though. 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Know exactly how you worried about your futures lessons other than not being able to get a house. That's the only problem right now literally. Oh i thought you meant like am. I gonna live or something like that man. We we alive people. Don't moe's worry is like the biggest thing that i got going on. Once i get that i feel like i got a base. Actually think i can't think right. Now let's go through some shit you care about next week man Hopefully the isles. Oh yeah well. You know what taylor's right. This is definitely gold. Underwater fucking be longer name lakisha golden what you do just one girl right. He said a bunch of but she's set up a gofundme me because she's trying to raise twenty thousand dollars to pay backer along because she doesn't want to go to jail because she got three kids she do with the money. I don't know. But i told y'all last year all of y'all motherfuckers was going to jail. I don't know why your thought the government with just giving out free money. 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I did the right thing. I didn't go to fucking miami instead to fountain. blew it. eat them good as cookies. Okay abra i always lied. I didn't eat it when you ask me making. It seem like that's what i did bro. I didn't do that you what i didn't do that. I didn't say at the found bloop. Let's talk about your boy man. Who's that jake paul. Oh yeah man. Those rights away fuck. I'm paying i. Refute started laying on the couch. I was laying on the couch. And i saw the group chat going off and Somebody was talking about how entertaining thriller night was thrilla app and actually it was forty nine ninety nine and i said fuck no was a top ten pay per view in history which is unbelievable as one point five million buys i mean he is currently the biggest draw in boxing whether you like to admit it or not. He is currently the biggest draw. Boxing floyd mayweather comes back then as floyd but he is currently the biggest name and draw for money. Fight in boxing. Say you might hate it. You might love. It doesn't matter but that those are the facts. Boxing are the jake paul jake. Paul could do a surfboard contest on pay per view and a half a million people. Probably i want to see him because he's talking shit exactly what he's done is monetize outrage brilliantly. Like i said this before. I'll say it again. Haters celebrators pay the same price of admission and wants him gaining in an attention. Economy hate is the easiest emotion. Right we live in an attention. Economy is easier to hate a motherfucker than it is to like a motherfucker. Think about how amazing and skillful. Somebody has to be for the three of us to go now. He's nice. We only do that for goats. We won't find a way to get jabba to win. Fax by chains braun. Made taylor mike tyson. His fucking labor beat holyfield zero. No might we've gotten to the point where mike will be like. Mike was scary. We'll throw it away even with our greats the tear down a little bit. You know what i'm saying but the people we hate with hate without question and if we want to see those people get punched in get knocked out and we gotta pay the same price we will. And he's brilliant in his ability to monetize that into his ability. Be okay with that. Not everybody can sustain. Internet hate not. Anybody can walk all fight though man schultz fall for fight night. I wasn't no fault. Fight on an he got he got caught got caught got caught. Jake does hit heart in on fight. You supposed to do all in boxes. Nobody know the first twenty fights all fall telling you bro. I i've been talking to ask. Is the guy who fought him and he say no of course not. There's nothing that i that i would have to gain from that. It was embarrassing. He wanted to beat them. Obviously but Why would it be a false guy. Came in built like a fucking substitute teacher. Really a grabbed anybody. That's what i'm saying. He came he came in. And you weren't even in fighting shape rolled. I'm trying to tell you that it's anybody through their also. Somebody say their fight. You get the draw bigger whatever somebody will if you wanna get somebody for real. They got an guys out. Data shows hopefully his weight. Jake paul is my advice. j. Paul don't listen to nobody telling you you gotta fight real boxes. Get the fuck. You know what. I'm saying. I would keep doing exactly what the fuck i'm doing right now. Bowling calling out athletes call in now celebrities. You got your own sheet going on with trillo truly showtime. Hbo not disown. You can run trillo all these celebrities feel like they can knock you out. Let people off the street feel like they can fight you and you just go in there and keep getting pieces of their pay per view if you doing numbers like one point five house rappers and whoever else on the undercard and other fights on undercut stay right where you at jake. Don't let don't let these mother fuckers trick you get your ass. Beat then over. He got basically you get to ask for the biggest payday we gotta be exactly l. or connor floyd connor but like it's not worth getting your sp for no money. Like i keep telling people keep saying he's got to find a real boxer. I'm like why title many you fight the fights that gets you the most money not the ones that get you to title. How many boxes been making millions of dollars in their first. Three fights never been done. Think about it so get we care about the belt because we care about the sport and we're looking for the best of the sport he's like. I'm looking to make money at this activity. So what is the best way to make money of his activity. I'll eight it go for. Get your fucking money bro. I do want to see 'em they go against a mighty because it's like why are giving this guy so much praised knowing that this is bullshit like you say. There's a substitute teacher who went in there. The guy guiding went in there had had an incredible. Mma career was undefeated in but he's a wrestling. he's a wrestling guy. So his hands are not that nice but at wrestling he was the nicest. They're very different things. Yes of course you want to see him. Step up against competition. But here's thing. He knows that he knows that he should take the most lucrative fuck and fights like yelling yelling tricky miata mossbacher. Especially if. I'm getting a piece of if i'm getting a piece of paper you i'm sure he's getting a piece of paper of numbers chunky piece to He gets a piece of thriller. Now here's the thing the trailer the whole car should suck like cut the music out. I don't wanna see fucking sweetie lip sync. I don't give a fuck about doja cat all nonsense out. Maybe you do one performance where it's one song but like we don't need it stupid shows you're also old and you gotta think about the crowded they cater until you got if the headliner is a youtube star. I'm going to get to these people that i know a lot of views on youtube sweetie and let them perform is keeping the kids attention man i would love for ordering them trophies. I bitchy as kids. That's why i don't know if it is man. I think that it's more. I think it's more older people. That are just Curious about him. Trolling the world. I think it's a lot of mma fans want to see him get knocked out. I think it's a lot of boxing fans that want to see him get out. I don't know how many kids are intas. But maybe maybe right. Alex was saying the same thing on flagrant. But i don't know personally if that's what it is all i'm saying is you got something really interesting when they were just talking in the booth. The crime faces you. Snoop you have mario lopez lawyer for a second. Oscar de la was coke out of this fucking mind able dome and he was so goddamn entertaining. Keep oscar on the cook. Iena bet you only already bet you. Wax won't pull his dig out around. Ask what moscow suck the skin right off. I had the first name as a are. Listen i like pete davidson doing the fucking behind the stage. It back. listen. I wouldn't order that shit shit. All social media was great. Yeah i thought. I thought he did a great job until he went into the into the locker rooms and then the poor kid melted like he had some funny things that he said like in the beginning he was like he was like this whole thing just proves if you have followers you could do it. I think i thought it was a funny. And he's the good thing about this is that at least one of them is going to get hurt and it was like he had some funny jokes and then he went to the locker room and then he then he basically says j. Paul nobody likes the other guy ben aspirin. He's a tool and then he goes into aspirins locker room and aspirins like yo. Why would you say that about me. Is that like an actor. You're playing for tv. And he's like no not at all. I mean the other guy. Jake paul is a tool. what are you talking about. I'm rooting for you. World for you com on heard it. Yeah he heard it and said next time you come and he called him out any fucking folded and pete also say you're the real deal and i'm looking at all. He's not the real deal. But the focus is going on paul wax entirely baby. Jake paulin wax. That's the baby won't be set it up and that is a fine wax. Wax ain't big enough bonus in the big no terms of like his his fame. Watching that fucking ben. Ben ben puffer man what he was he was he was infamous. Never heard of has the fastest care if br this how can you wanna do like the rocky fight when he fought in the street talking. Do that for you to anybody. You know what time of this show shows if we might see me. Actually if you wanted the people who actually seem me get it in so you a little crazy jake. Paul wax fight wax. I'm telling you this waxing talking crazy right now. I've beat waxing arm wrestle with my left hand. Ibm with an arm. Rest with my left hand. Schultz is one of the people who actually able to see me getting in my life. You know what i'm saying. Not not as many people you know. Many people do difference. You lots of different wax. Different your different and jake paul of wax to win. Show jake polar wax. It's it's a street fight rags in boxing trae boxing. Are you serious honestly not playing talent. Listen i love my brother. I eight these as a white man against my. That's nyquil and nyquil things. He may not come out. But i think. Jake paul wins. This bro wins more time boxing. Ring talking nope in a boxing ring box. In god faith face time right now. Show is not ways traceable jay. I'm theory we tell jake paul. We got his next match. Saw guy wax we can sell it. Real big be brilliant breakfast club all over black affect pocket there were. We can maintain thing with the latest thing. He's coming off an achilles injury. Be coming kellyanne. So yes he's been slower. He's no amateur fights not amateur. Never have nothing never. He just feel like he's fresh off discreet. I'm jay pat. And i'm just i wanna practice. I don't believe in it the tell them all. That's coming off the injury. I'm a little slower. I just had a baby. So i got fat. All that stuff. Wax date left in the first round. But i think by second i think second because his conditioning wax conditions terrible can you don't realize he's almost forty anymore. He still thinks he can do the same things that he used to do. Jail hall walks whacks down. Now we walk you down now. I will say this that does not that. Well if it's a streetfight they're very few human beings that i think could beat you up. I believe on top ring shows it in. The ring is different. Bro in. The ring is the basically. I don't know how to throw my hands. It's all you saying. J. paul no. I no doubt and i'd probably do that. He'd probably box more than i have right now. At this present time right now shows how many how long do you think you will last in the ring. Well real fast. Who with jake. Yes i don't know that's a great question until my cardio gives up save your cardio get up with the guy right now. How long you think you will last with this guy if my cardio is there i i'm pretty good in the ring. In terms of like i can survive. Cardio's there can survive in my cardio is not there then. It goes in just like you know. How do you think you'll last in the ring with me. I could last as long as i wanted. Carry you. I'll carry you for i'll i'll long. I wanna to really serious. I don't think you know know i think. Conditioning is so bad. That if you get tied for a second them hands drop a little bit nine night that this this league right now. He's jumping jake paul guy. Yeah we gotta jump goals brockett for control purposes. He's got to jump him. We got to treat them like omar. I can't have that ohio about that as one of those things onboard. Something like that. All to congratulate him on the victory abuses as a hard fought victory and then afterwards for cultural purposes will have to take into the streets this into me. I'm not worried about losing to jake. Paul you shouldn't be mall. He's going to lose. Mattel radyr you understand that. I three hundred pounds for me to actually look at you as something you see what i'm saying. I'm not looking at that. That's not too small for me. I'm a little different. They paul his six one and got nothing to do with them. You see. I don't care if he's six ten that has like you're backing out of the fight though. It seems like you backing out. No i'm not. I'm telling him let's do it or through it. I would sit there and destroy anybody. Come over on the other side of me. That's just what. I do whatever you would you. You you on stage. You go kill you. The breakfast club. This is something. I actually no not an arinc. You bugging eighty andrew andrew street fighting all day. This ain't about street. And i know how to my head. Jake paul embarrassing. Think jake paul. I think they gets. You brought this like. I said we wanted to rocky out on the street. No we wanted to ring ring down. Jake let's do it. Yes sir we get this going on the folks whatever access you need to me an andrew shows all we need is ten percent of the pay per view worrying about this at all. I wanna do it. I'm eating you wanna do like the rocky fight in the street. I'm down this commute trying to make it in my hands myself. Your feet wouldn't even know the doing boxing you so used to win. Tim's perfect thing. Jake paul tips shows that that boy up. If you want to do live a long time people with no. Jake paul tips. I think intel. Somebody smack him. And i give some money and do a look at me. I say go ahead and have fun. That's a strategy in narrowing. I don't know let's make a habit. Okay so the ring is different. This combinations broach. You saying. I'm going to see somebody wanting me combinations. I'm a handle my business. Jake paul got. We have jake paul jewell if jake paul knocks you out with flat on your face like neyroud amazing address. We have to ask somebody out to be able to pull your boxes down your cheeks just out. Then they gotta put a flag in your buck but listen pull them our roads on the back slow joe wackos won't give you a roses cheeks. Listen we got instagram. You've got all types of things definitely can make this happen. Like i said i would definitely be him to fuck up. I'm not worrying about money. Baby let's easy do matching. How long has it been since you had a boxing match wax. It's been a while. But i'm not worried about them very skilled. I'm i'm still is like riding bikes from me. Certain things like riding bikes for me. You sound like andrew. Not you right here right now if you sit there and your wax on the hook for spelling b. i'm gonna tell you i'm a loose you see what i'm saying my shit on my hands and being very skilled in knowing exactly what time is. I'm very confident about this. One things you see this. This book is called state of emergency. That's what would happen if jake. Paul paulin got in the ring. Okay it'll be a j. paul. Who would knock him out. Media would have to come out and do a speech. You know what i mean. Okay that's how bad it would be real all right. I'm telling you right now. Over the last thirty seconds believe it soaks stead it up. Here's the thing. I don't think the same thing. I think a him in the back. Slacks as take or andrew going to jail a prison prolonging andrew andrew imprison andrew m for sure andrew. Wax along bring along is around. Three minutes is three minutes but also thing about me in prison. I'm annoying like they're gonna start trying to reach me. Tell them my opinions about the world shit man. I don't even want to raise them all out of the way they're going gonna smack you back to your head man. You really have to deal with basically you know eagle talk with no. You won't be in there. But what do you guys think about. The wage gap the big guys talking about baby. We're talking about jake. This definitely we can make this happen for paul jake paul versus wax. Thank you give me something to actually really makes days. Here's the thing wax the there's wax as he's he is a lot of mass like anytime wax and i would like joke around shadow-box ripe anytime. He really insert himself. He's very quick but he's also just a lot and fast and jake just slow on. Week is nothing i can do to. The guy is set it up and own even promoting our no by show on nothing about me. I'm little guy. Make it happen. And i show you what time j. paul versus wax. I'm saying let's do it attention. You know paying attention was really going. Know what we need to do to make this happen. We can get the sponsors. You know what i'm saying. We can make this wax a superstar celebrity if actually superstar celebrity and we could guarantee one point five million buys. I'm sure he'd be down. See him though. We salute alan going to million something by. I don't think one point. Five million people owned in for ben bro. I think j just that much of a draw. I think jake paul really is is that guy and and that's right up his alley meaning like he the social media sensation. He's fighting on the app. They know it's a bunch of ship before it this. Because i'll be honest with you. I'm not in that world. I heard about the fight. I didn't think it was going to be one point. Five million goddamn by. Yeah what i'm saying. Well somebody get see him get knocked out there doing again. I think i think it. I think it would do wonders for jake. Paul the fight somebody. Who's six foot three. Two hundred thirty two hundred and forty pounds. Knockout somebody like that. Yeah i m not come out be like. Nah no no all right. We'll see we'll say well that's it for for thinking that but let's let's pay some bills and you said there's nothing he can do it me in thirty seconds you know. I can put you down and thirty seconds with just boxing. I think all this. I'm talking about somebody who understands what boxing is and knowing that he tried to run and try to move is nothing you can do with the type of force and then that rain brought often doing all that training is still going to lose as his ain't got nothing to do with that notion talk. Wwe am not hulk hogan nobody okay. Let's see. I wanna see how show you are about this. Talk me but you bet you but what you mean how would you build you. Remember ramona t or that movie above the room when they used to play boots and he's like beethoven kissel be around the room. Okay with you bet. Some cheeks muslim out above the rim. 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And when you're ready to launch us the offer code any to save ten percent off your first purchase of a website domain made dot com slash idiot would offer code idiot for ten percent off your first purchase. Let's get back to the show. Let's get some shit you care about next week Dave chapelle is doing what i thought he should have been doing. Which is a podcast on luminary with a most deaf aka yasmeen bay and tie leave quietly I'm interested in this. Only because i'm one of those people who don't think podcast behind a paywall work If chapelle can't get people to pay for a podcast. I don't think nobody will people like to use the patriots on Model as an example. I think the patriot model is different. Because it's not like i could be wrong. Correct me if i'm wrong. It's not like you're on. They're doing in the schools podcast. Every week exclusive content for the patriots shows. No we just do one extra episode a week which is on patriot but But the reason why. I think that works is because you have the free episode where you bring people into your family. And then they get to opt in on spending more time with the family. Yeah so if you're already behind the pay wall it's harder for you to acquire new family members. You know what i'm saying. Chapelle doesn't need more fans he's got the most fancies the fucking living goat so there's nothing more that he could possibly need. I'm just curious why he went with luminary. Because i'm sure spotify would have given him the exact same deal or apple would've given him the exact same deal there. There are pay platforms. That have the money. That'd be more than happy to pay you. Because you're fucking dave chapelle so going with the worst paid platform for podcasts. Is just weird to me. Yeah luminary endeavour. And i could be wrong as this podcast. We don't deal with much facts. I haven't seen a lot of success. You know what i mean. Five pray to build it up. I've seen a lot of podcast. Go behind the luminary endeavour paywall kinda like lose a lot of momentum. The saying i haven't heard nobody out here streaming the successes of being behind luminary and in double no no disrespect to those companies. You know and. I'm glad y'all landed a big fish like dave chapelle but i just wanna see. I didn't want to see if it will work in that. You know that's all. I don't i don't i don't know chapelle is a great dunk for luminary. It's amazing move for luminaries luminary. I don't know the numbers and again brilliant idiots. But i assume that you know things were not the best luminary and then thrown that hail mary on fourth down and then land in the fucking biggest shark dilshan shit but i mean auto apple. Apple has subscription based podcast. Now i know apple is that would have been super sexy for apple. The spotify same thing you know. I think i think academic his spotify now which i think is a great move. You know. 'cause i go get to check. You know like the thing that scared. That always scared me about spotify was once you get behind spotify wall by. You're you're a prisoner to just who's on spotify exactly. It's hard to acquire new fence. Yes i if you're if you're still in the growth stage you know which i see ourselves as myself as i want to grow so i wanna be accessible to everybody. But chapelle doesn't need to grow because he's as big as it gets so i understand him wanting to cash out. Same thing with rogan. Like i understand. You want to get that huge chunk like don't get me wrong. That makes perfect sense now. Maddie exactly but i understand why rogan went to spotify. Because they're already so many people on spotify. It's seamless luminary. Nobody's on it but who knows maybe it will work. Yeah i mean listen. I'm not rooting against it. You know i just wanna see. I didn't want to see see. I'm i'm i'm i'm i just believe that paid i think paid pod podcast behind a paywall. Don't work unless you're giving them something else like it makes sense. If you know y'all got flagrant and you can steer people to to the to the to the patriots. You know what i mean. But it's i'm sure how many people how many patron on members yoga twenty thousand or something like that when he thousand flagrant probably does like. I don't know two hundred thousand episode. Maybe in views are just not on view this regular audio a regular and video we do half a million an episode of a million episodes. I mean that's good right. You giving away another episode you get you sell and you get twenty thousand people come over paying. that's cool. You know what i mean. They wouldn't give up. You wouldn't give up those half a million views owners thousand the way we still get to react to and influence culture through the regular episodes and then we get to have that more like intimate experience with the super supporters on the patriot. And you get the best of both worlds right there. And the patron provides us with so much protection. Because you know we're while boys and sponsors get scared they could go fucking running but the patriot hold you down. Those are the people that ri- for you. Those are the people that want to support you. They want to protect you. And that's your security. In case shit goes down. We know that we got that. You're right and another thing to to Like i think people don't realize podcast like flagrant. You are a podcast which also youtube show. Yes you know what. I'm saying so so so you got to different audiences. They might people that there might be people that watch on youtube that. Don't listen to the audio and vice versa. Get both of those built up enough. Cash eight with both those audiences to weigh twenty thousand people decided a. I'm fuck with this patriot. Shit to pay for that is well. That's not what i wanted. I wanted to say about just like you know new people coming into the game when it comes to the podcast base. I think we might be confusing. People just a little bit because there is a difference between you two in the audio. You know what i mean like. I comments on youtube and they'd be like hey man bruins. India should be bigger klay burn. Isn't one of the biggest podcasts out. Here audio is looking at us men. Yeah like we came into. We came into podcasting when it was almost strictly audio. Dan's one of the things that i saw early on in podcasting was it was really hard to find a podcast randomly. So that's when. I brought him my little brother and i was like you'll videotape all these things because i see the success of the breakfast club in how so many new people can find the breakfast club from those youtube videos on like yo. If we put out youtube videos maybe people could find us through youtube. And then start listening to the podcast but we came through at time where it was audio so the majority of our listeners slash viewers are audio. Flagrante grew through video people saw my stand up clips so many people saw my parents and on other big Podcast platforms like my ted talks has shifts so they knew me from youtube and then came over to this podcast. It was also on youtube. So it's really interesting to see like how your audience but craziest happening is now are you to is growing. Yeah y'all are great. You really show known for brilliant. Now our youtube star grow because we're here consistently you know i mean look like we got a fucking set. You know what i mean like. It's the same ship. But i just i just want the kids out. There are new people coming into the space that it is two different things. I guess we're kind of blessed because we were around before youtube thing was the thing thing but a lot of these people are coming in starting youtube shows. I and saying this is a podcast like no. It's not it's a youtube. Show me 'cause you can somebody who's people doing youtube with no audio on the podcast. Soundcloud put your seeing on apple know. Put your shit on spotify. Put your shit where you can actually listen to podcast to put it everywhere. I think you should put it everywhere like i mean. I think a lot of people probably saw breakfast club is a youtube show but it was a radio hundred percent. It's also a podcast. also podcast. Now it's a clip. Show like i bet you. There are people who only watch brilliant idiots clips. They don't even watch the full episode or listen they just watch the clips. That's how i am with certain podcast lot's tons of rogin clips like i'll watch more clips than the fucking podcast itself before. Whatever reason i just like digesting things is shorter amount of time. And if it's somebody. I really loved that. I listen to the whole episode or rogue and so i feel like it's smart to put yourself out there for all the different ways to consume things. Yeah i mean listen. Breakfast club is consumed for different ways through radio. Regulars listened to your radio the iheart app whatever. It is u2 The podcast and social media clips. That's how i know. People only know people through clips. These people like some people might think. I know but only see them through clips. I only knew their life. You you'll make clips a you and jake paul for short. Oh that's a nuts emmy was gonna be nuts Man i make you frown or upset. Probably upset. I wouldn't have second expect you to lose. I said i'm saying so when i win you to be upset. We'll be happy if you win. I'm gonna be like oh shit. Wack soda seminary ring. Fuck you the ring man. Definite fuck rings. Different man you might get performance anxiety. Navarine bugging the more now. You think you think me fighting a man. Something that actually do is be more. I have a mortgage and having having pussy in front of me. That's more timid pussy. More over somebody. I i can actually really beat the fuck up no going to beat your cheeks gigolo and do you looking at jake you see when you're looking at a vagina you like the ted at the ten minute and we don january huge looking at you. Their ted big black shit up. Jake fucking black women. The question i. I don't see why not i actually like. That was a really good one. But i don't think i'm a lose a norm not gonna spend. Do we make it racial. I mean that's the easiest way to make. The money is if we may make racial raise. Rocky balboa russian guy you got to have a little reason this a little alley who where he is so. I can't even say you don't know what is he. Yeah you don't need to get in the ring with him but you don't got us you can't he's white and can be rushing. You could be fucking canadian. White white toubro among god does all my guy come on seven years. We've been doing this. Podcast let's do some asking idiots. Never seen a way to make it as a way to make him. Let's do some ask. Nike tapping kobe bryant. I don't even understand what that is. I don't know what. I'm sure there's something else i don't know what the bill i don i haven't understood disorder. Let's get let's get some asking asking it Good one one from kobe. Okay so he says. Would you rather eat a cake while sitting on a dick or ada digwa sitting on a kid. I've i asked you. Would you got ta sitting on the dick. Is the dick hard needed. dick was. That's not cool because the house is on fire all the doors lock. You've got to have won the doors open right. What do you mean is to jump on. That fucking window is no way out though. I would rather eat a cake while sitting on the dick. Now he's the dick hard or soft. If it's soft i'll sit on the dick and then i'll just eat. The cake is sitting on a dixie. just somebody's lap. Yeah i sit on the dick in eat cake. It's hard you you awhile boy. I thought sitting on the dick. I didn't think nothing other than sitting on somebody and whoever thought about thinking about now. I'm in doing this job. Nice to meet you gotta do the would you rather i love cake. Give me a way out though. Now you got to eat some a laxative cake There's a lot of would you rather with waxy. Excellent tell go in the meantime some hot shit in the meantime. I david basketball to now. Give me one thing you like about each other and one thing. I don't like about each other beyond spicy. Demi one thing you like about each other in one thing you don't like about each other i know i like the charlot making convinced himself of anything. And i don't like the charlemagne can convince themselves with anything. You know what. I was gonna say i love that. Andrew is always trying to find the funny in everything and i hate that andrew was always trying to find a fun ride why though i hated andrews awhile boy by borough it made it. It made it the social media after we beat it up a little bit. Play stupid man. I tell you something charlotte intervention with me on the phone. We bought three other people own a home. Because i had to make sure we bet this one before we run it. We run it up. The flagpole was a joke those stories. Those andrew text me. Your goals is right after the verdict comes in. So he takes me. He goes bummer. Man by boy was officially cancelled. My i'm taking a shit right. Got i have my phone on this on this thing in the bathroom. So i'm laughing my ass off right so i called do as my andrew so fucking stupid man. 'cause i it certain people you know. Wanna appreciate those jokes talk. Vago is more bucket. Just text me talking about white boys. Somebody cancelled do boggles why because the job verdict and i go yeah he goes tweets s it right now. Let me let me call them. So we bring andrew andrew goes guys guys guys stop. Crying stop. Crying is charlotte. Stop crying crying crying. So walls like right now. And i'm like no no. This is how we should do it because it's a joke there. The joke is when you find out that white boy was officially cancelled. And you put that confused. Look derek chauvin head on in the courts. That's the show. You know what i'm saying. Shelter just tweeted out. White boy was officially cancelled. It'd be on. this could be a little brisk. It could be a little risky. That's all. I understood what a joke was coming from like. Let's beat it up. let's vet it. You know what. I mean. So my point is i loved andrews always trying to find the funny and everything and i hate that. He's always trying to find this. It's a world. Landmines bro about wax. But i i love that waxes fearless and i hate that waxes fields. Yes same setting himself. Up to get knocked out by jake paul for no goddamn reason why he would do that. So many pays attention. But i don't like that. Charlemagne don't pay no attention. Andrew i say if they were andrew like i love the edge. You likes to make the funnier everything but when was stumped times like this when he no better eating under he don't know better he i know he knows for a fact that he give jacobina ring with paul way more than than longer than me. For sure gonna lose. I know for a fact. He'll probably last rounds with this guy. He won't last round. With me and jake paul guangzhou opera lasts around with me on wild. Just jot laughing. Lo-long bro fucking boy. Ninety six was to know. Would you rather your son look better than you or fuck than you know. Come on and you'll fuck even both of them before you had done. You ruined for back on Get a good one taylor. Gay s society Denies snow is society. Putzing pushing people to be single longer or mary. Sooner with his innovations is deciding single longer. Are matt angle longer hotter. Process was going to happen on your phone. Swipes away a girl. Just come to your house after you. Swipe over it's so easy to meet a girl you have all these options like and also like all the women that you see online. Don't look the same that they do in person so now you're constantly looking for this thing. That isn't even real singalong. Singalong sing along. And it's bad negative side effects of this. This is not good for society. Should i think that is going. I think is pushing us to be married long. Because i would not want to be single in this social media air. There's not there's no privacy. You know what i'm saying. There's no secrecy. Everybody know what you doing. Area-wide know who you're doing with you could be out here. Land into bed with another girl. She might put you on instagram me. I like the fact that i'm married and happy. And i know my partner and is no fucking surprises. No i'm cool i personally. The innovation technology makes me feel like. I want to be married longer. But i'm not going. Nowhere is sucks. There's no more privacy is you can't even high like i used to have sex. No other supposed to be doing it but now it's like everybody knows the job she's ever more question. Leeann candidates gore man to near with north life. Where video game. But with some of the chico's be if life were a video game. what are the cheat codes. Ooh that's same thing in contra well two things right. One in contract gives you multiple is We have multiple reckless motherfuckers out Yeah and i mean that would be chico to constantly get an opportunity to keep coming back getting it right right yeah and age looseness video game characters age. But then i wonder about that too. I wonder if you know. I mean clearly. We're supposed to age. Because we do what i really do. Feel like things get better. Would aids things get better with time. I think you know. Get better with the more experienced. They got to get better with the more wisdom they got. You know what i'm saying i liked. I like agent. I do. I've i i'm looking at sixty two. I'm looking at like damn. I can't wait to be sixty two bro. You know what i'm saying because my all my kids like my oldest will be thirty. Some rest of them will be in the twenties and they'll be having their own lives. You know what i'm saying like back and what man. I was looking at masterpiece. Day with his two sons hersi and mercy as though as dope as fuck hersi going tennessee tennessee state university on a full scholarship mercy of freshman. Hersi mercy just one state championship in high school. Year beat bronze tons team. You know what i mean. His his sons a freshman in high school. He already got a scholarship to the university of minnesota. If he wants to go. Spn a man. Oh and all that type of shit. That's what all the but that's that's that's should adult i acid. I can't wait blessings man. Another blessing other day. God gave us cherishes it just masterpiece. Music is dead. This is what it's about me being a father. I'm out here pushing products. I got my son's out here my son and he was like he was like an a dream of mine from thirty to go to the nba. I would love for them to. When i'm teaching them business he's like. I want his son majoring in engineering. You know what i'm saying. He wants his son to be engineer. You wanna be bio kim. I want my kids go to school and get the education and we're going to be out here running these their businesses running these companies. Like you already see romeo romeo audio living his best life like he did a good job like that's it is inspiring man. I just want to raise great kids. I wanna be sixty to seventy two watching my kids get old watching them live. They life watching them beat the entrepreneurs and business people that day going to beat. That's what i want. I can't win. I need viagra. You know what. I'm saying wagner. I mean i'm old enough to where i think on move put as soon as a certain age like that's grown old seventy seventy now. I say you got three fifty three. You'll need not worry as guys as this i. That's it listen man You know as always we record that. Wt f media studios you go to w. t. f. media studios dot com to book your employment. Okay at a sixty percent. Black owned Studio right And as always if you listen to podcasts you think was smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're bringing absolutely right buddy. Listen to the anything. We're just a couple of years. You don't know shit you're right to is to his podcast volition.

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Thoughts On Judge Lopez And Rule Of Law

Bob Lonsberry

27:06 min | 5 months ago

Thoughts On Judge Lopez And Rule Of Law

"Really need to monitor my credit report. Yes you do your entire credit history including how much you owe and if you pay your bills on time is in your credit report when you apply for a loan or credit card or even new apartment companies may look at your credit history to determine if your credit is good or bad. You should monitor your credit report often to make sure that what's in. It is accurate and up-to-date until april. Twenty one you can get a free credit report every week. Go to ftc dot gov slash credit matters to find out how eleven eighty downtown cloudy and thirty seven. I'm todd halliday. Newsradio wamble of eighty six news at ten thirty breaking news. When it happens anytime another hour with bob laws bury starts now on newsradio. Uemoa still much appreciate that and troops. I appreciate you showing up for muster cool copacetic on your an real quick just a rehashing. If you had a chance to listen the last half hour. We spoke to a joan by the name of john. Tricky who is a landlord and He's the landlord in that situation. Last friday maybe you saw it on the tv news. Some people were arrested including The assemblymen who took david gans place. Now he made video of police with helmets arresting him. What are you doing. Why are what is why you doing your resume. You know that of course was played dutifully By all the people at the tv stations It that story right from the start smelled funny and i think that here is the landlord laid out. Exactly what happened you. You see more reasons the whole thing. Just the here's the deal you had activists out there saying well people should not be kicked out and this is wrong. And you're turning out poor lady and it's just before christmas and the deal is this is a professional employed woman who has had no break in employment. She was a schoolteacher in rochester. She's now a schoolteacher in buffalo and teaching that i think via remote and As she told me when we ate lunch awhile ago A few weeks ago or four or five hundred. How long ago it was but She also has you know paid her rent a very spotty fashion Ended up essentially not paying a about a year's worth of rant. There was a repeated agreement. Which she you know including the waving of all the past rant and she was supposed to be out at the end of november supposed to be out of friday morning and when she just persisted in refusing You know the the police part was sent over with orders to arrest people now whether that was the right way to go. I don't know But it may be a a message that you know from the city court judge mike lopez that you know. I'm tired of being screwed with we. You know we we are court and you know where we're compassionate and all this other stuff but we're not going to be ignored and agreements that you make a here have to be loved up to and you know Issue orders which issue forth from here have to be lived up to and Any rate So you had this thing on the news where the police ended up looking bad. Be and here's the deal. You had the Protesters they're holding their defunding. The police Signs and rent and you had people telling a lot of preposterous things. A here's the deal. There are people who can't pay their rent because they've lost their jobs from covert or their whatever. I mean there are such people and their needs are real and genuine and worthy of our compassion and and and they have problems that need to be solved by my folks beyond just themselves right but this lady is not that this protest is they took advantage of this because again they hate the cops they like landlords and this was just an opportunity to dupe the people on the six o'clock news or whatever else like that and it's disappointing that demont meeks this new a member of the assembly Was there you sort of wonder what direction he's going to go as a representative in albany in sadly as he standing there next to you know some of the traditional protesters you get a sense and you know. Here's the thing in ironic deal. Is that at the time. He was They're you know at the protest. His wife was at the family dollar on west main street. There was an armed robbery Of the store and a gun was held to her head right. I would think of the issues facing rochester that Poor mrs meeks was a lot closer to the reality that needs to be addressed and fixed then was mr A meeks so at any rate this whole thing was a cock and bull story it was. It was all a stunt and you know. Unfortunately the rochester police department ends up being looking like the bad guy. I'm grateful to the Executive deputy chief who went out there andre anderson he spoke to the people by which i mean reporters. He laid out for them and again. The rochester police department released the order of judge. Lopez a very unusual thing. I don't think i've ever seen anything like that before In this town he called for people to be arrested. He called for them to be held a all weekend long subsequently that was You know Overruled you had the mayor way in saying this is all wrong. She siding with the protesters. It's all a con job and deal. Is that there are folks who will play issues like this just to build themselves up politically or get their activists some attention or whatever else like that and unfortunately this assembly is decided that this is the route that he's going to Ago this lady. I'm sure is very pleasant. Maybe she's got. I don't know what her deal is. I you know. I hope everybody's happy and such but she didn't pay rent free here. She had paid spotty before that. She made an agreement through attorney Repeatedly and at the end of the day. You can't thumb your nose and her stuff is still in the apartment. She has a lot of stuff there. That's supposed to be out by the end of the month will will it be norm. Glad you called. Welcome to a hold on. We'll get to you right after this break on. Newsradio welcome back. Welcome back a merry christmas to you. May the sacred nature of this holiday Warm your heart. Mary glad you phoned up. Welcome to news. Radio wham eleven eighty. Hello mary hi bob howard. Yo i'm tremendous thank you hope. You're the same. Yes i am. Bob if i understood you right. This woman is a city school district teacher she used to be. She teaches for the buffalo city. School district oh. I don't care what school district. She teaches far but with that behavior. She shouldn't be teaching our children. I'm sure her views will trickle down to our kids. Not my kids to learn for someone. Who's crock mean. A crook generally means you've been convicted of a crime. I don't know if anybody's been convicted or accused of a crime in this matter norm. You're on the big show buddy. Welcome to newsradio ham eleven. Eighty for taking my call. You bet but here. In all on the lakers yesterday and then this morning no Cova deaths in the in monroe county but unfortunately our daughter-in-law later and she passed away at nine. Am yesterday when a county hospital and Hadn't recorded that. I'm so very sorry. He i don't know how they work but the that they may not have yet gotten to the point where they report the deaths of yesterday sir. Yeah i'm i'm just wondering 'cause original doctor senator hostile sick. She had pneumonia. And you know it turned out to be cold. it got so bad they put on a ventilator on that for probably about a week and then like i said she passed yesterday at nine. Am so i'm wondering. Did they say oh no. It wasn't a cold desk. 'cause it was monja or something else i if you'd like i'll write to the people at the county and find out if you like but i i wonder if maybe you know like they like say release in the afternoon the numbers i think usually when you see them and i suspect that those are numbers that are up until the end of the day prior. So the the the counting of your daughter-in-law's sat death. I bet you dollars to donuts at that would be noted in today's update of the number. Sir caller thanks anyway. I'm so sorry. His only fifty six. I'm so sorry is let me ask this. Is there any. I mean we. We we grieve for her loss in. And you know your son and their family and all. Is there anything that we should know. Is there anything that we that we've learned about cova from this. Well you know it's Possible like in this case. it's possibly it was misdiagnosed. You know by the the original primary whatever. And you know it's definitely Hit you hard. You don't you don't expect it like this you know. She had kids and grandkids deeply affected by that. So i just so that. They're not doing it. I i i a neighbor of mine. Whose wife is dr carrio county and they were told i guess not to talk about it or anything. Not some kind of a suspension because talked with some friends get Did your pass away in. Monroe county yes indeed and did she live in monroe county sir. Monroe county's squared away they. They're they won't try to hide anything or or anything else they they they. They're not trying to artificially inflate the number and they're not trying to artificially suppressed the number. The they'll be honest in their reporting. I i have great confidence in monroe county. You can trust them sir. Okay very tanks five eventually hall. Yeah god bless my friend all the best to your son and their family. I appreciate it. I i. i'm not in a position to judge counties. I have noticed that there are differences And here's the deal by personal experience with my family in livingston county We hold them in very very high regard and by observation at a distance And speaking with a great many people who have been covert patients or whatever else like that. monroe county. I i i am not a always a fan of their approach in all this stuff you know. But they are honest people and they are not playing games with the numbers and they are just trying to serve and function is a professional Operation and and one. That has a a lot of common sense. And and so they're not playing any games and You know it's you those the two i can speak a to an end and end of so at any rate in fact al. I'll send a note to their people on this news break. And here's the deal In not unite. Don't overplay the fear and the sadness of this deal we're trying to play it straight And we're going to get through it and we're going to going to succeed but part of this is what this man is. Just describe for us. There are those who grieve. There are those who pass. There is pain This is not a risk pre journey in which we're engaged. There are real reasons for why we are being responsible and must continue be responsible and the that good lady and her grieving loved ones Are reminder of that. We've got news with great john halliday. We'll be back when he's done on newsradio. Eleven eighty damn eleven eighty from the west virginia. Coal mines on the wrong game then. The west was out in the woods. saturday morning and sunday afternoon. Up there in the crow's nest my daughter blue eyed elliott calls it a deck. I built up between a couple of maple trees in the woods down the country land and there was deep snow Both days and Sof you dear. I took a shot at one. It was a A calculated thing Given where he was where she was in where she was going in what the conditions were though. I did not have a perfect shot. I did not have a shot. I would have taken otherwise. I calculated in that little moment that if i were to just wound this dear As opposed to kill it outright. I still would be able to collected up here in a couple minutes so i took a shot. It wasn't all that great and i missed And mostly i Sat up there in the tree I took some sunflower seeds. And i put them Around me and though birds from the woods came into a kept me company jo. I'm glad you called. Welcome to newsradio wham eleven eighty. Hello good morning sir. Welcome bob how you doing I one the marshalls that was on site on friday. Night at at that fiction on glasgow street yes. yes. And i'm i'm not sure Somebody told me that you. I wanna say this that you had made some disparaging remarks about the judge and the police department and just so you know. I'm as conservative as they come. You know i agree. I agree with cash. Do you think it's likely that i would Make a disparaging comment about police berman. No no not okay. Police department no. No here's here's the thing about the judge One i my only question was was he just tired of these people ignoring him and so he showing them who's boss was at the excellent outstanding and and the reason bob is that over the last few weeks we've had we have one situation right now where the people that are still inhabiting the premises at this gentleman's place. He's afraid to do anything. We've evicted them legally but the powers that be have almost told police to stand down so these people still inhabit this place and judge lopez on friday said. I'm not tolerate this anymore. It was and he had to the back of the police. One hundred percent outstanding. Can i stop you for second. Did i want you to. I want to continue i. I'm so glad. That's the case. I am so glad that's the case Please go ahead sir well. So what transpired was that judge. Lopez gave them in order that they were supposed to be out by certain period of time. They failed to do so. And this isn't. I'm not gonna say anything disparaging about the tenant than the media doesn't give the entire story okay so this this landlord is out many many many. Why shouldn't say that. A lot of money okay and the judge was very plain and direct with this tenant and said look you have this. I'm going to give you some extra time. You know he. He's definitely not that. I'm gonna cut your head off kind of judge so he gave them extra time in. The landlord wanted his property back. And these people were not allowing us to do so and the judge said okay. I've had enough. You know we're going to send in the people and we're going to get these folks out of there so i just you know i. I don't know judge lopez's politics bob. I don't listen to you that often. Because i'm usually working but i know that in this case he was doing what he thought was the right thing for the community for the court system. I am so glad that's good. He again he'd been patient with these people are. I worked at all out. But when they repeatedly ignored him he just tattoo a court has to be respected. Or it's nothing correct the nets and that's he was and i give him. I think him numbers of times on friday taking his stance because we're at a point as marshals and constables in the area and then the sheriff's the civil division where we can't do our jobs anymore and if they let this continue their just should just close. Landlord tenant court because people are not going to leave because they know that the police are afraid to do their job because of politics and the media End the pushback from the city is coming from where i don't have a clue okay and if i did i wouldn't tell you but no i don't have a clue. I just know that the police are incredibly reticent. Now let me back up just a little bit. We were gonna go. We started to do that. Eviction early in the day. Okay and with all of the people there and the demonstrations and everything the police department said. Okay let's back up now. This happened to me few weeks ago to where these these other folks are still residing in this place. I went there in an afternoon to do the eviction. The police said look. Let's stand down. There's a lot of activity here. There's a lot of protesters here and so we did. And we went back the next morning and there were so many people inside the premises of this place. Screaming yelling calling us. Names calling the police names and word came from high to walkaway. Joe i've i've gotta run. Thank you so much for your service. Thank you so much for this News this is breaking news from newsradio whammy lebanon reports. This morning that federal prosecutors have charged a libyan man over the lockerbie scotland bombing that occurred back in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Of course two hundred seventy people among them. Su university students died when pan am flight one. Oh three came down over that town exactly thirty two years ago this week. We understand that. There is a charge now. Identifying the new suspect as abu aguilo muhammed masud again a libyan national waiting for more details. The attorney general. Bill bars holding news conferences today to discuss this case and stay with us for those details as the day progresses. Thank you sir. I so appreciate that. That was a heck of a pre christmas day so many years ago memories still fresh especially over at su. Thank you. we'll be back and talk about with the marshals. Just told us coming up on newsradio eleven. Eighty polka back my friend. I'm so grateful for that marshall service. I'm grateful for that call. And i'm very grateful to hear that. That was the motivation of judge lopez. i'm very grateful what that does is it. Shows ultimately the importance of rule of law and it also shows that you can't simply ignore a court in what it orders are what you have agreed to In the court. Now here's the thing. Eviction is hard right. It is hard and unhappy and it's tough because they're often are you know decent people on both sides of the equation. But the deal is if you want to live in a society with no vixen than you resolve that through the legislative branch of our government. Right you don't do it by Ignoring orders of course there are courts that exist for this purpose judge lopez sitting in a the authority of the office vested in him by the voters of the city of rochester. Right in forcing laws made by the people of the state of new york through their elected representatives and laws. The people of the city of rochester made through their elected representatives. If you don't like the laws and you know we're all gonna vets fine that's had the discussion and if you want to change the law then do it. You know have the elected representatives of go up which change the law. But you can't just blow it off and you can't just ignore the orders of a court because you called channel thirteen right a- and because you've got oh look i'm going to make a video here. Got some grandstanding assemblyman. That's not really the way it works. And again i i. It's not my place to speak for a judge lopez again. He and i am sure of canceled each other. And every vote we've ever taken in life but the deal is citicorp exists for a reason. Gentlemen ladies gentlemen and ladies sit upon its bench for a reason they have a duty and they have a power and authority and I get. I'm grateful to hear The motivation the impact in the purpose of judge lopez's order and and i also was grateful to learn that like you have what seems to be a systematic effort to ignore these orders of of addiction and Again there are. There are clearly are times when people aren't paying rent because they don't have the money and that can come because a covert or whatever other reversal but this whole dog and pony show on friday. It was not that at all. It was a fully employed woman who again has not lost employment. she's a professional person graduate degree And she's not paid rent. In a year you know wherever that money is or was or whatever which seemingly be some kind of asset for and you know she had agreed agreed and broke the agreement and she made promises to the court and they had been extended and she hadn't followed them and so the judge acted. He's i again. I don't want to speak for the heart of joe judge lopez but. I'm pretty sure that he has a great deal of empathy for people who are enticed situations of Economically he is you know he is. I saw he's a very progressive person at heart. He's not a jerk to to people who are on a hard time but he's also not a doorman who can be walked on at any rate and and likewise the agreements people make when they rent a place is not a doormat be walked on and landlords who are always cast is. The bad guy are likewise not a doormat to be walked on and At any rate. I know that this was as we watched on the six o'clock news or eleven o'clock or whatever it was it was evil cops in helmets Throwing a poor single mother out of her house tweet before christmas. But that's not the issue here. It's far more complex. And i hope that they will get it. Squared away in the reporting and we will get squared away in our understanding as a community. And you know If there are problems to fix a fixed the problems. Dave glad you called. Welcome to newsradio jam eleven. Eighty yeah bob I'm calling about our beloved governor. Who was such a genius waited till the day that the sales tax was due to forgive us. i reversing. that's business sends out sales tax early. So they get a two hundred dollar credit but our governor was wide awake on this one too. I don't think most of us is the second most of us including myself don't know what you're talking about what happened please. Sir governor says that he he'll give extension for sales tax commercial is due quarterly. Sir december. Okay do you have to pay that every three months. Yes sir so the money that was due at the end december. He now says you can turn the end of march right. But there's a financial inducement for people to pay early. You say yeah. There's a two hundred dollar credit if you pay before december twentieth okay and so should this year. S december So you you probably paid early absolutely of course. Of course you bet. That's the prudent thing so he gets to sound like he did a good thing but it's not a thing that most people would be able to take advantage of exactly also. I'm in the restaurant business. Which is stuck in the orange zone and less than a half a mile away. There are four restaurants wide open. Because they're just over the limit. If you tell us your place i'll come get takeout lunch there today. We don't take out to wednesday thursday and friday. It's it's called to just restaurant. Where on lyle avenue okay. Whereabouts on lahser If you're familiar with old windows yeah just just west of mount re over outstanding. Very good One more thing. I'm glad that he's keeping the casinos and the mall's opening so we can spread the a little further. Yeah all right. I appreciate it Covadonga first of all malls are empty. So we're safe there right. And here's the deal. I do. I not aware of a single case transmitted. A at a casino in fact The turning stone people the oneidas are men. They're they are incredibly professional. Those are some smart people. There and at none of their properties have they had a single contact trace For covert the they're just freaks about it there. Okay the how can we do it right and they do it right Don't it'd be wear your masks. The prudent you know all stuff like that. But i would be afraid to go shopping. I again i'm restricting. My shop and i go like once a week. Whatever like that you know then. Christmas altogether but the people running the malls running in the casinos Running pretty much every place Are doing a good job there. Conscientious folk It's time for news todd. How they will do that. We'll be back when he's done on. Newsradio wham eleven eighty. I found items on my credit report. That aren't mine. Did someone steal my identity. I don't pay if you think. Someone's opened accounts in your name. That can be serious. But here's some things you can do right away. Start by putting a freeze on your credit. 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"Engagement" has Jumped the Shark | Kristen Mattson

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"Engagement" has Jumped the Shark | Kristen Mattson

"On education is sponsored by participate a community learning platform where the world learns together later in the episode will hear about one of participates partners the sandbox at how you can get involved and it's free community learning opportunities and livestreams so you have a thermostat. My there must do not anymore. Because i'm taking it down this the deal. Welcome to on education. Part of the podcast media network. My name is mike walk. Am glenn vendor friends. We have an awesome poppy today. We will discuss what are least favorite education. Words are whether we believe it's important to get out and experience the world keeping our kids safe while using ed tech and our guest. This week is educator and author. Kristen matson it. So in a in a cova twist sharell and i both god vaccines in the last since since we last spoke. Hey i- amazing sh. I got my scene. Show got her cheryl got hers. As part of a drive to vaccinate teachers teachers specifically the uncertain in certain regions of ontario. That were were spiking. And she teaches in one of those regions Even though they closed school so they close schools. And then -tario anyone doesn't know like we're in carrio is a dumpster fire now know you know. It's so schools are closed and there is a there is a stay at home order so this year old teaching and the kids home Twenty four seven basically. It's back to basically the way it was last year ago. right now. yeah it's crazy so cheryl vaccinated is on on the sunday Last sunday and then what's funny is on sunday night. They announced that they were opening up. The astra zeneca age group and ontario to anyone forty and in older. So i was like. Hey that's me. So i cau- i totally. I called right away. Monday morning last monday morning. God got an appointment tuesday afternoon and it kicked the absolute crap outta me. In fact i'm still kind of feeling like garbage from from it s from recovering but that being said Months earlier than i was expecting me to get vaccinated So super happy the gatt for sure. That is fantastic. News mouth fantastic bad news about the going back to complete distance learning because it feels like we are on the side of that. But i mean plenty of. They'll get quarantined. We still get a big chunks of kim is but it feels like we're just forging forward No matter what almost kind of through the end of the year at least here in minnesota and Though in the cities there. I know that they barely got back to hybrid slash in person. Learning i you know in some states as i saw andrew Post this is the first time within these last few weeks that they've been back to face to face or in some sort of hybrid since last year in you know during this time when when we were here talking about it so it's been a variety platter for for a lot of us so yeah yeah great crowning on the i'm really counting on the borders being opened Sometime in august helpfully. It'd be nice if the borders could get opened I'm suspecting that We will have full normal kinda back fairly normal back to school in september I'd be surprised if we went back to in person learning for the rest of the school year to be honest And then you know. I don't don't tell anyone. But i'd actually like to go on vacation during christmas break next year. That's all my all my karma into into making a manifest. That isn't that. What the kids. Yes you could make a half that the universe the universe is going to conspire to last one hundred percent behind that man. That would be amazing if week if it if next december things look semi normal man. I've taken the second so we skipped some stuff last week because we had such a. I mean the podcast. Last time was an hour and a half yes Which episode two two week episode basically took weeks to get through it so we skipped a whole bunch of stuff that we wanted to talk about one of the things we we wanted to make sure we got back onto. The schedule was a fun thread on twitter by one of our our good friends. Mike jezek yes in he asked what is your least. What is your least favorite education. Related words His was rigor which you also very much dislike. I do. I knew. I love michael and there was a lot of engagement on the the tweet. There is really fun. Ones like on the same page which also done with the We've talked about learning loss. We've talked about on this podcast. He does share yet here. You know things like differentiated instruction which i mean. I don't have a problem with that word. I guess but some people have a problem with it. I guess pivot. I'm done pivoting. I just kind of want to go that way. now please. Pivoting is That just wants funny hyper docks of. I can't believe people still use words like that. It's like you know every document now as a high duck. That's what's so funny about it like if you use a digital documents. Google docs every one of those documents is now hybrid. We've hyperlinked everything to those documents. We figured it out and now it's not that cool of a thing it's called that's what we do a deep deep dive. I actually like saying deep dive sometimes. I i don't hear that. I don't hear that. I hear fidelity a lot. And that's that's what noah geisel friend of the podcast said fidelity is the f. Word capital says michael one of the one of the more long conversations. That actually happened in that. Thread was was Part of the conversation with myself and i lean Winokur about engagement. And i wrote the. I honestly don't think teachers know what the word means and i stand by a matt me. I'm not going to rehash all of the really dumb ways that we referred to various things as engagement in twenty twenty and in two thousand twenty one mid yes. The word jumped the shark officially. And i'm done you know what's the obvious irony is that it's i am the director of engagement. I do that by the way that it is used in the in the education. Vernacular is just so off the mark Engagement can i can find out all about this or should i just leave it alone. Idaho you can rent right after i talked about. I think it's actually our own fault. I think sure do you remember. I actually and i know you clearly do because you were attending conferences at a very similar time that i was like when you you're presenting at esti About my craft. yes a long time ago. People people that tugboat microbes education Come there was this thing called minecraft way before any of that stuff. I had a lot of people using just regular old minecraft and then we're the. Oh jesus anyway the the concept of using it in your classrooms like mike was presenting st which one thirteen fifteen fourteen for thousand four hundred fifty somewhere in there. But but do you remember those conferences. There was a lot of sessions that had to do with. I'm gonna put it in quotes engagements but you know what it was. It was entertainment. Yes it was not alive. Laughing is not engagement so they were like they were they were basically making those. Two words synonymous right. Yeah and that was bad and we sold people on this. Yea yea engaged and it actually is like you said it's not the meaning of the word but now it's gone you know one hundred and eighty degrees people are like i don't want that that's not a. That's not something that we want in our classes but what they're talking about is not engagements entertainment like entertaining. You're you do want your of course you want your kids to engage with the materials and enga- being gauged in class so that they are able to go ahead and don't have discussions they're able to go ahead and receive the messages that you're that you're talking about and able to participate and really learn. Obviously if you don't if you never engage you'd never learned you're not gonna actually alert. So that's why it's it's hilarious. I think we did it to ourselves. So tell us more mike well. No engagement is an action. Right engagement requires reciprocity. It requires conversation in engagement. Is when you Actively participate in your learning and in the learning of others. It's having fun in class is allowed. Obviously i want my students to have fun. I want my students laugh. I even want my students to laugh at me. You know none of that bothers me. That's all great. It is not engagement. It's a different word. Just use the proper words so that we know what the hell people are talking about because You know being fun and playful joyful and entertaining in class is is great and some of the outcome of that might be engagement. but it's not engagement itself. Engagement isn't action. it is an act. You have to engage with things like captain picard. Turning on the star surprise engagement means go engage when engagement. Glad i got to bring i. I've so happy you brought head that great star trek reference. So you know. There's a lot of really good words there for sure. Our need you to fill me in on what's happening on paddling and this is a really crappy story. I imagine it's it's a really. It's bad because of what occurred. Basically a students with Ed's maybe made many students at least there. There was one as far as an article that will make sure we lincoln the show notes. There's a news article about a student having in an interaction and being basically exploited sexually a young miner By a dot and it happened on the ed tech platform pad litz. And if you don't know palette it's it's great at tech tool it's web based there. It requires no log in To be able to reach the paddle you need a link. Basically that's all you need And you can post basically at a paddle it brainstorming notes You can go ahead and post Your thoughts and ideas etc it in class and of course in this per for this purpose. It the perpetrator was using it for something. Obviously really evil. The problem comes in. I mean as far as the article you know they're talking about you know paddle it evil. Whatever might be you know in in the news A thing the problem is is that there's a multitude of things that you that a student can use and there's an outside potential outside force evil person or people that could have communications with your kids. And i'm talking about everything from google doc to sure social media platforms. I'm your students and your kids are on social media platforms where there are evil people on their Snap everything from snapchat to tiktok to everything else. That students are currently using to have their That's where they live as far as social media. But you don't even need that. There is a everything from like. Simple as google doc to websites that have a chat on the side to remember mike before the big change in youtube. They're actually used to be some really creepy stuff going on in. Just the comments on youtube You for a sept so when they turn those off to make kids safe that that was happening to and and youtube obviously google found that out in and shut those off so the biggest thing that we could take away from this from this incident and from any of these incidences is digital citizenship. And you guys should continue to listen to this civic podcast because our guest kristen matson talks about that in book and she herself is discussing how we can't be afraid to have these conversations number one number two. We need to educate our kids. Like what do you do. You know not. Avoid all of this stuff because you can't void everything. I'm sorry you can't we live in the digital age. You're not going to avoid everything unless you live in the forest by yourself and even then i'm thinking you're still going to end up with some kind of interaction so our kids we really have to make them digital citizens how do you do that and what potentially what is out there and then would you do when this ends up happening in this case. This girl reported at her parents. That was a good a good situation. As far as being able to address it and then the school knows and then obviously pad let the company knows that there might be some things that they can fix on their end so that this doesn't happen as far as on their platform. But i'm telling you right now. This is that's like there's a million ways for this to occur and it's super scary. Yes but we need to talk to our kids and our students about these things that they're potentially there and so what do we do what we do to avoid it. What happens when we do end up. Interacting with its Even by accident. So it's a good article or a good thing to be reminded of on a consistent basis. Yeah so can. I admit something to yes. I don't fully understand the aversion to the term learning loss and last year. So so let me let me explain. Let me provide context. Okay before people. Basheer use the term learning loss for decades decades. It's something has been studied. There's there's there's tons of studies that show that students Go to school. And then they're off for the summer and then they come back to school having not retained Some portion of content That they learned the year prior agreed so that teachers have to spend the first month of school recapping and sometimes reteaching what was prior knowledge. That's well documented. I don't you. Can't you can't argue with that. That is that's a fact. Those are facts right there. This has been. We've been using the term for decades There is and there is a documented cycle peer reviewed amount of percentage of time. That teachers are taking to reteach things that we're taught the year prior every year. It varies based on a lot of things. But this is something we've been talking about for a long time so i'm trying to wrap my head around. Why the aversion to the term. Now because i got some cases way i was counting on it. Because i'm not. I'm not against it. Just don't fully understand it again. I'm the words matter guy in so i'm not saying that i'm opposed to being opposed to saying the term. I just don't fully understand the narrative that You know it was fine to talk about learning loss from one thousand nine hundred eighty to twenty nineteen and that all of a sudden twenty twenty talking about this thing that we know actually does happen You know we can't talk about that anymore. or can't certainly can't use the word without getting skewered on twitter and that It it's it's not a thing anymore. I don't know if before that from your nineteen eighty to twenty nine hundred if it was just okay to talk about it because i heard that comment or that's terminology and what exactly what you stated you're right is a fact yet what people do with that specific set of data is they exploit that specific thing because it makes sense. I'm not spending time at school. Learning academic knowledge for two and a half months. And when i come back. I have lost some of that because it just it's gotta be that's part of being a human what happens though is that there's several different things even before this year and this year has been where the piranhas really came out. But before that there's been a move by politicians to push things like Year round school. That was a huge push Probably ten to twelve years ago. I would say when when i was at the kind of the beginning of my career. It was a huge push to be more like japan to be more like china. There was less breaks so that students could retain more knowledge so that students could become better. Academic super of people just like the japanese and the chinese were and what we have found out i think and as far as it research probably too and actually from some chinese educators. There's one specific one. I can't think of but he did a keno along with george. Kiro set at one of the conferences local here if anybody remembers that victory tigers on that but basically he was a chinese professor at he said to this audience of thousands of people. He said. you don't wanna be like china. And he listed out the things that china does and one of the things was keep skit kids in school for long periods of time every single day and throughout the entire year for the purpose of attaining content knowledge right he said you want to continue to be what you are and he's talking but people in the united states and he said you know you may be wondering like what is that. What is that thing. He's like you have developed created all of the innovators. The people. I think outside the box. The people that screw school. I don't care about that kind of thing you have developed give created the environment where you have these things. He's those. Why do you want to go ahead and be the people that only within a box within this. This specific box. And i can't remember the guy's name as far as the professor by that that was actually speaking to us. Anyway the exploitation of that data of specifically what you're describing is a fact you're right but it it makes sense. We spend time away because we're going gonna lose content knowledge. What do you gain during that time. That's the big question. Like what do you actually gain in. There's a disproportionate things that end up happening during the summer. And that is a fact to There is a group of us. And i would say the privileged white people that end up their kids continue to read all summer. They continue to go ahead and have experiences because they go on these vacations and whatever else might be. And there's a group of students who don't and they maybe don't engage with academic materials. They don't do all of the things that you know people. That are privileged. Get to do and there is. A discrepancy between the night is a problem. But the biggest thing that pisses me off about this kind of thing in this kind of thing is that people then by people. I mean specific politicians and this specific corporations latch onto these terms. And then say to the school. Hey your kids are they. They're deficient in these things. So now we're going to sell you. Yes digest that's the part. That's when you have this time news article and that's where we're going to sure we link you guys to this post by angela merkel who said she's disappointed in the time cover. I saw the time. And i was just like this is disgusting in so many ways. There's so many levels of disgustingness about the. I love time magazine. We get it at our house. It says the lost year. How the pandemic chance generation of students it may be an actual fact. I get it. It is a fact it did change the world. it has it continues to change the world to this moment. But you put an african american young students female on the cover and it's selling a narrative a specific type of narrative. A story lioness a they. That's what magazines do i understand that too. But what is also saying. Is that teachers. Education systems in general have failed. This students and this last year was a wash. You can just go. That's gone it's like you may not pick up the contents knowledge to go from. What's the the specific standard said. You're going to go from this to this. During that year that you may or may not happen but the students continued to grow in a variety of different ways and probably are more capable. Now i would say then a lot of different generations of students of being able to handle adverse situations of all kinds and this year has shown us. And we've we've gone through it as far as on the podcast not only You know the pandemic but all everything else that came with this past year how insane this world really was this one paseo but also amazing in many ways there was so much tragedy and some much things to look forward to it hopeful too. So it's like this combination of craziness if you just say the year itself it how much we've all learned as adults but our kids to and the conversations that our kids are having today would probably never have happened. Obviously if this whole thing that the happening at everything all the events that led to this point so i just hate the exploitation. I guess that's my. That's my biggest thing is really. I don't like when people that use this to then sell us. The next thing the thing that were gonna end up buying the curriculum. That tech tool the thing and i hate to that a lot of at tech companies out. There are putting that on their list as one of the marketing items. Help a deal with learning loss. A lot of the conferences. Mike are headlining. That how do we address learning loss what things dislike. I throw things because the sponsors who yes learning loss with this thing that we can sell them for four thousand dollars. But you're right. I mean overall. You're what you've just finished describing. You're exactly correct because it makes it not only makes sense but it is. It is a fact that over a period of time. You're you're just gonna lose that specific it skills the skills that what they're going to deteriorate as you go through time. My my son's son is in grade seven. There is a portion a probably a larger portion then normal of grade seven math that my son will not retain next year going integrate. I you know. And whether that matters he was a different story. And that's a whole other conversation and how that data that information. That knowledge gets exploited to sell a math up curriculum for four ninety. Nine to the school is is is is the problem that we have with talking about learning loss but to suggest that my son is going to retain every piece of grades seven math that he could have possibly learned in the classroom in the same calendar. Year is ridiculous. It's it's wrong. It's it's just not factually correct. I just don't so And and i all the other things. I get i. I think it's a wording issue that i'm struggling with that. We've you know we've understood what this means. I think the definition of the words changed in the last year. Where people just didn't you know it's like oh we don't want to call it a loss year because they learned so many other things Even though the actual like learning loss that was researched was related generally to math specifically and then to other subjects non specifically but definitely related to math Because that's what you can like. Actually like you can document that you can document test as to very easily. Yeah so we just don't like the words anymore which is interesting because you know there are a lot of words that are changing our cultures in our societies in worlds right. Now so i get it Discussion it is. It is So i don't don't add me. I don't have a problem. I don't have a problem with with what we're talking about a why we don't like the idea of learning loss. You know i get it. I'm i'm not. i'm not a dummy. I just i just think the conversation super interesting I talked about wanting to go on a vacation and You know what's funny. Is that just before literally just before. The pandemic probably january twenty twenty When i was feeling real good about a lot of things john coming up podcast had a like almost ten thousand downloads. January twenty twenty. I mean things were lookin way out for us. Who would have thought about one of the things that i did. was i actually started a spreadsheet of the places that i wanted to go on vacation travel to heck. Yeah and i actually created a rubric. For how bad. I wanted to go there based on a number of different factors. That's a that's a super nerd way to the and there is a scoring system. So that i can like triage. You know places. And then i and then i started to ask sheryl cheryl to do the same with the same spreadsheet so that we could see where we wanted to go and we wanted to start traveling and our boys are are five and twelve. Icicle be thirteen soon and it was like we want one. I want him to get out and see the world. I don't wanna live in i. I mean i'm probably gonna live in southern ontario my whole life. But it's like i wanna go places i wanna do things for sure now wanted take them with me when we can So this idea this question that has come up. Do you think it's important for our students to to see the world from our corey. I felt like the answer was automatically. Yes so You know is there any. Is there any no to this. I actually there's a lot of people said no interest and it's like you put it's. It's maybe a canadian versus america. Thing i have no idea about that too. I have no. That's actually the case. But i will tell you. One thing is for sure is it's a rural versus city kind of thing in the united states and there's a there is a i to call it a movement but not really a movement but maybe just a tradition. Let's call it a tradition of growing up in a specific town area going to a local school as i think. Corey actually said really well. As far as in the post following the original one and saying i actually went to go to school kind of locally in the community college and then come back and work in my community and there's something to that too. There's there's something positive about. I can see that and there's nothing actually negative about that specific line of thoughts but what corey was saying is in that process. Should we give getting outing like experiencing some different things and doing some things. And of course i put yes that we should for sure be doing that to audrey thorough. Put that yes You know she talked about her husband. Living in a billion south korea. She used to live in italy that it was that that made a huge impact on on them But i actually love pallbearer bossi's comments. He's also a former guest there. He said he doesn't actually think that. Travel specifically as necessary to broaden one's worldview or to create intercultural understanding but it helps but he said it really depends on what mindset you bring to that and that's actually what i've seen. I've seen a lot of americans that travel to different countries. So for example used to travel to costa rica and take students there all the time and not my students but other people other americans that would travel there the the interactions that they were having with the culture was very. I'm an american and there's this you cater to me. I'm not here to learn about you or questions. Like why would you do x. instead of going like in your culture this is important to you. That's amazing instead. It's kind of criticizing their decisions in their lifestyle at cetera. Whatever might be which is funny coming front. American to costa rican society that just as a beautiful Not only country but everything that they've managed to do in their country. Just freaking phenomenal. But it does happen. I think it's a. It's a specific sets. And i wish for all people to be able to go ahead natalie travel but to learn from other people. Because that really does broaden your horizons and even going to a university really changed too. I was that was one point with for sure. Changed the person that i grew up being. Because that was more Influenced by my family. And then i ended up changing a lot during when i was at college. And then of course the years after that too. But i think it's important for you to be exposed and not only that but interact with a variety of different people especially outside of your comfort zone your culture because in the end it will help you to be empathetic and empathize and be able to try to put yourself or at least try to at least have the acknowledgement. I can't actually understand where you're coming from so i have to. I have to do some learning which we've talked about the podcast. Before like i can i. I can't relate to that. But i wanna understand And that's a huge step. That's a huge step. In the right direction the opposite would be what i feel and do and what i've experienced is right and whatever is on the outside is not right and it's wrong and often that that's a viewpoint of too many people and and man that's a hard place to have a conversation for a start points so i that's why i think it is it. It is a really important thing. But i think a lot of people don't believe that make they are like. Why would i feel like. I have everything i need right here. So we'll leave you with this one thought. This was my response to corey And this was that Off the record once Fairly recently an ec executive told me that they do not remember esi. The international society for technology in education international society told me that it's the is always in the united states because americans don't own passports and they will not travel. And so i fact checked that and the fact is that only forty. Two percent of americans have a passport. And i find i. I find that super interesting. Well okay but you're also canadian rights and most canadians live on the southern border correct. Yes yes that is. A fact and most canadians have traveled or do travel into the united states. You need a passport to come to the united states. yes okay. Most americans don't live on the northern border right. I nigga giant crunch ray exactly and ed for a long time until just i would say probably within the last at least ten years maybe for for that. I know there was law changes. We didn't even need passports to go to mexico. We maybe we had that agreement with you guys too. I think we did. We have a driver's license driver's license. We made some kind of agreement where we could just travel. I think before and went to canada for a canoeing trip. But you gotta understand. That's like i doesn't surprise me that that's the fact. Yeah but on my challenge. Yes to my american friends. If you're listening password go get a passport. it's it's a good time. I knew the lines are short because traveling right. Now come visit you buy. If it's anything like canada your passport lasts you a longtime probably five five years ten years. Maybe i mean i think you're gonna get on a plane sometime in the next ten years. I mean you're going to be allowed to. At least i think so. Go somewhere and tell us all about it when you do it. That would be lovely. I go places all the time and tell you all about it. So i think you should do the same. I'd love to live vicariously through you. Our listeners traveling so go get your damn pass americans way to go. Get your damn fast work when we come back. We had a fantastic conversation with dr kristen matson so stay with us. Building this virtual community of educators who share an interest in game design and teaching new skills. We will use this face to connect collaborate innovate with socks that. Sebastian bore j. co-founder chief operating officer at the sandbox community is here to provide guidance. Support feedback and suggestions on a halt. Best assembles within the context of teaching and learning how to make video games a lows also connect experts educator bringing together existing craters and members of the sandbox game platform community. Wiz professional educate sh. The sandbox community has grown into a vibrant space of one hundred plus educators. How can you get involved more to come later in the episode. Welcome back to the podcast. Everyone dr kristen mattson is a wife. A mother of three and a former english teacher and school librarian. She's currently in professor with the university of illinois in consultant she partners with educators in all content areas to integrate digital literacy research skills creation and innovation in the classroom. She's the author of a new book ethics in a digital world and were thrilled to have her with us on the podcast. Welcome to on education. Kristen matson thank you so much for inviting me. I really really appreciate it. 'cause this is our pleasure such a great book kristen. We live in incredibly polarized times and our students are caught in between teachers and parents who might be on extreme opposites of the ideological divide. You can see him starting you with an easy one. Yeah how do you suggest a teacher navigate these waters where getting on the bad side of some vocal parents could cost you your job and even if the parents are clearly passing on lies to their children and bringing those lies to school. This is complicated time for teachers. And so i said i can't tell you how many times this topic comes up. Yeah unfortunately. I don't think there is a magic bullet or a quick fix. If there were. I'd be rich and famous than that would be amazing but i do think long term we have some probably pretty serious discussions to start to have around curriculum and instruction and how we're going to navigate. These waters In the future because things things aren't going to get better unless we really start to purposefully integrate these types of conversations skills and lessons into the classroom. I think for me. The most important thing to remember is that it's not our job as teachers to Convince students of any particular political ideology political our ethical lens Our job is to really help. Students kind of navigate. All the murky waters themselves. Read understand. listen with empathy and eventually come to conclusions that they are comfortable with themselves I also recognize that you as an educator. I'm really just one. Small piece of students political political makeup. They are getting influences from everywhere. I think our job is to really help. Students understand those varied influences in really lake. Start to figure out what it is that they want for themselves. And you know it's funny. I think about teachers all the time to like. I mean seventy four hundred million people voted for donald trump. seventy four million americans voted for donald trump. And in the face of you know. Eighty one million americans and you know most of the rest of the world including this canadian Believe you know that you know. This was one of the most ridiculous dishonest administration's anyone's ever seen not to get too political alleged. Show my hands on this. We don't worry about it. We our audience expects this at this point at least for me anyways. But you know we have to believe. We have to acknowledge as educators. That a lot of other educators voted for donald trump. Right right and so you know. You have educators in schools. Who don't believe that there is systemic racism for example that derek chauvin should have been innocent phrase apple. Yup that that the election was a fried when it clearly was not like. I mean right hat. Like hey it's it's it's insane world that you're living in right and so we're epic sleep really. Tricky place where we have skill sets the students to learn that the generations before them did not have to learn There's some really fascinating. Study is about like which groups of people tend to share the most misinformation online and it is our youngest students like our middle and high school students and thinks the biggest group of people that tend to share misinformation online older. Yeah it's it's like the fifty five to seventy five year olds who you know for a really long time. We're able to just take everything that they read saw consumed at face value in. Were not critical questioners of content yet. So do do people side. No you might not listen. I have a real hate on for boomers along asked talking. I was reading. We've got you know we have. We have these really critical skills that students must have but do the adults that ended up in front of these students. Whether that is teachers parents grandparents. Do they have the skills to help. Kids navigate all of these things. So i feel as though we're coming at you know we're coming. We have to come out this problem through a multi generational approach. This cannot be something that we just start to talk about with students. This has to be something that we're talking about across generations just difficult but necessary for sure kristin eubanks. You've written about this next topic that was going to ask you about digital citizenship. And it is a critical issue being talked about daily in all of the schools probably around the world. I would imagine right now. Especially now with everyone being remote absolutely and mike and i were just discussing an incident that occurred on an ed tech platform. Where a student. A young student was being exploited sexually. And there's this all of these levels. Mike just talked about political situations And and those and you know the the lies that maybe misinformation that are being spread so it leads to this question that you actually wrote in your in your book and you and you had a great response for why should we engage our students in conversations about tech at six and i think that's a great question we've actually brought on jordan shapiro. I don't know if you're familiar with him but he he basically was speaking to us and he's also written a novel specifically about kind of how we can't be afraid as parents and as educators to have these discussions with our students and really bring to light what is actually out there. And what's what steps. You should be taking when these things are going to occur. Saying what should you do. Can you tell us more about that. The engagement of our students in these kind of tech ethics. Yeah for sure so my original a doctoral work back in. i don't know twenty fifteen twenty sixteen. I looked at tons of middle and high school curriculum. that had been labeled as quote unquote digital citizenship curriculum By and large really about behavior control on the part of students so it was things like him. Don't post anything that is going to keep you from getting a scholarship or from getting into college. Don't give out your personal information like very much. A list of things that that sued should not be doing when they move online. but what. We haven't really done a great job. With is empowering students. I think To engage in ways that are safe savvy Purpose full when the only messages that students here are you know. Be kind online and tell an adult if something doesn't feel right we haven't really equipped them with skills to handle things like sexual exploitation like misinformation like even a really heated debate. That might happen around topic on the internet and so my first book really started to push people to think about Not not talking about digital citizenship. Like list of but really. What skills do we need to equip students with so that when they are in digital communities because they all are and will continue to be that they can do so in a way that is Beneficial to them with digital ethics in the second book. I really started thinking about these bigger societal questions. I think that that mike was kind of alluding to that first question. You know things like just because we can create self driving cars. Does that mean we should do the algorithms that run a lot of our social media systems actually benefit us as consumers of content. Are those algorithms. They are to make profit. I think we know the answer to that But what's the danger in that you know when a technology product is designed strictly from a capitalistic lens. How does that impact all of us as end users. And so it's it's kind of twofold for me. I want students engaged in these conversations. One because all of them are digital citizens already. They're all users of technology. And i want them to be like to be critically thinking about the tools that they choose to use how they choose to use them in how they are engaging with others in these digital spaces but the second reason. I think it's really really important to start. Having these conversations with students at a young age is that they are the next creators of our biggest innovations to come And i really want this next generation to be thinking about the human impact of any type of new technology that we end up with not necessarily just designing to move fast and break things or make a ton of money or you know. Be the next big name in silicon valley. I want students thinking about what are the what are they. What's the human fallout from. All of these different tools That they both hewson will someday create. So it's important. I think just to give them space in time and resources to think through these really muddy waters so talking about muddy waters in the book. You discuss privacy. And there is a chapter called. How much data are we willing to give up. and i'm an instructional coach also work in tech integration and anytime we we have a list of laws that govern What we can and can't purchase rights. What's tools our students are allowed to use Cope compliant and so on But and then in just in the normal social media world there's a lot of hate for specific social media sites specifically say facebook like everybody knows oh facebook's evil so on and so forth And as i wrote this question i was thinking about. What am i biggest concerns and one of the things that we've discussed this far as in our school district but we don't really have really have a solution. And i don't think too. Many people are looking at this but one of my biggest concerns is at different giant tech company that gives us many school districts throughout the country and probably throughout the world. We don't even give it a second thought because while we are giving up all of our data for free we get to use all of their products for free on a daily basis and it's connected to basically become the probably the thing that most businesses in abusing and so the company i'm talking about is google so and so we at our school. For example we use google. Suites are we we have. Our students are using all of their different tool. So they're using google drive g mail and so on and so forth and we're being told at least by the executive at google that they won't be using this information. You know these things for anything malicious right but is still supersede. The amount of data as you put in the book you were you were you have some very good definitions about big data and data collection. And what does it actually mean and cut of the things that we should be talking about in questioning. At least so i'm asking you. Should we be concerned about all the data. They could be potentially collecting from have collected from all of us but specifically our students. That's the one where i mean. We willingly give this stuff up whether we know it or not where we are having a relationship with them. We are giving up the data for the use of these tools. But we're also giving up. The students is data And if so if there is a concern. Is there anything that we could actually do about this. Are we just too far down in the relationship where it's like you know. We have to basically trust these giant corporations and specifically that one. That's the one that concerns me the most because they're so embedded in everything that we do it as far as in the united states. I know that every every school for sure so as you were talking. I was writing all things that i wanted to talk about because i feel like this is a. This is a topic that i could probably teach semester long class around us with with high school students. Because they're so much. I think that people first of all don't fully understand and that maybe people think about on a personal level. How many times of you heard somebody say well. I don't really care if google has all my data. I have nothing to hide if you heard that right. But but are people thinking about this on a societal level and what all of that means you guys familiar with. Turn it in dot com. Yes yes tourism. Checker right turn it is essentially a plagiarism. Checker who has built this really expansive product and service. That makes money every single year off the backs of our students. How do they build their database of information. They build their database of information to check papers against by keeping the papers of the students who turn them in on. Ternate dot com. And so i think the bigger question that we really maybe should be talking about when it comes to privacy is like how are we to allow these massive companies to continue to you know make make profits off of our students and i think the profiting pieces maybe a bigger concern for me even than the privacy piece. I remember like ten years ago. Fifteen years ago in schools there was conversation about. Should we let you know. Local businesses put up advertisements on our football fields. You know as a way to raise funds and people were like. Oh that feels so icke. Do we really want to be advertising to kids. And then we hand them a chromebook and the google suite and we you know everything is is so branded good on google right because if they can get our kids invested in these products early. They've got customers for life But it is all very messy end and of course we do benefit i mean. Google's tools are fabulous. They've allowed distance learning to happen. But but yeah. I mean that's why these questions are so fascinating because there's not a right or the answer. There really isn't like they're just messy couple other privacy things though that i think about that are outside of school but i would love to get our students kind of thinking about these things. Do either of you have like a nest camera at your house or ring a bell or don't but so i used to have. I used to have a nest camera as a baby monitor for a while. We don't anymore. I have i have to nest. I've a nest thermostat in to nest Firearms though as i was. I've been reading this book. I'm not done with it yet. Oh god you're gonna make me replace all my fire tv your cares of your fire alarms So i've been reading. This book called surveillance capitalism. And i don't know if you guys have seen the documentary. What is it called. it's i've net flicks. Thank you social. I have something to say about the social dilemma quickly. Just company that. I work for participate is actually just starting to do a whole bunch of work with the center for humane technologies which is the producers of the social network. So you actually might be interested in Just staying in tune to what. We're what we're doing with them because we've just style we've just started to work with them in. It's we're we're all super site is awesome. You need to win. Evolve company company. Homework was go. Watch the social dilemma for media literacy perspective. I have to ask those questions you know like. What's the purpose of this. Who's behind it. And what's the message. But i do think it opened a lot of people's is to kind of the behind the scenes of Some of the ways that the products they use everyday operate that that release surprise people. I would say you have to connect with david. Ryan poll gar. He is with a group called All tech is human and he's doing some amazing work to begin to sort of bridge. The education gap that exists right now between college programs in the types of things that silicon valley is looking for specifically in terms of of technology ethics and Like sustainability and Just kind of all of those different humanity. Type questions that silicone valley. Maybe wasn't so concerned about Twenty years ago and so he's doing a lot of work to build some really cool Really cool bridges between and tech companies. But they act to your nest camera in the way. this all came out so social dilemma interviews. The author of this book that is called surveillance. Capitalism in the author is shoshana Zubov and she's interviewed in the social dilemma But she basically talks about how there is now this entire industry of surveillance that somehow manages managed to just kind of materialize out of nowhere. Like i do not feel unsafe in my community. I do not worry about people creeping around my house. i do not worry about packages being stolen from doorstep. I realize that's a luxury but the driver on my neighborhood. And i recognize how many people have security cameras on their doorsteps and i start to question and wonder. Do you feel safer with this technology. Did you not feel safe before. What's the impact of like all of these is on us as we start to move event as i'm moving around my neighborhood and i'm getting pictures snapped of me every few houses from people's ring. Doorbells it really. Just it's like this chicken renege kind of scenario right where like am. I now suddenly more suspicious. Because i can tune in and see that someone was walking by my house. What impact does that have on us as a society in terms of like social trust Social privacy there really is no expectation of privacy anywhere anymore in. It's interesting to me that we've all kind of bought into this notion that that we have to serve vail our neighbors as well. Everyone's afraid of porch bandits amazon package. That's what it is on the court and ding-dong dentures to. I got your teenager on camera. Ding dong ditching me. This reminds me kristen of conversation. We've had her on a couple of different times odd. Audrey waters is correct right. Yeah yes and so this conversation. About how we've we've given up all kinds of different privacy's including in this case are images in constant video feed of who we are and baby for the navy for the feeling of being secure. But they're selling us on bat specific. You know that that's what we need. You know and what you were just talking about. Turn it in. We're having that specific conversation right now. Which i'm super happy that you just said that because it brings up another point. I think it's gross that we do this. You know as far as spent so much money on when cheating a home. Instead of teaching the skills necessary to be able to to create your size exactly create your own ideas develop your own things and then also use those monies. Have these ed tech. Money's call them to invest in things to be able to allow our kids to create instead. We're trying to catch them doing that. Just feel so gross. Turn it in their browsers. I gotta say there's a whole new industry now of of folks who are trying to come up with these gotcha type solutions for atmane learning at home testing in. Yeah are we us. We'll we'll get emailed at least a couple times a year by the pr company for turn it in. And by the pr companies for all of these other plagiarism. Checkers town have their dads on the podcast. Oh dying tacoma. Podcast for some reason. So i don't know why thanks what so that i delete the email so i'm not. We're not having them on. But what would they say. Why does their product exists. Like obviously we know. But what would they say in face of the the the issues with like privacy and and and ethics and stuff like that. What do you. What is their position. Do you think i don't. I don't even know that they. I don't even know that. They thought about a pitch in that direction. I think it's you know the podcast. It'd just capitalizing on you know that. Expectation that kids are going to cheat are going to take shortcuts. Shortcuts are bad cheating as bad here. We have to fear lucien to help you with all of those things You know being an adjunct at a university in the night also jumped at a community. college is a plagiarism. Checker built right into the The elements that use at my community college and wrestled with hap. How do i utilize the tool. Because i am forced to use the tool. How do i use it to the students. Benefit as opposed to this gotcha so if there are teachers that are listening that are utilizing these tools you know i have really started to use it as like a teaching opportunity so i will send a report back to a student. I'll say you know. Look at these few places where you didn't use a direct quote but your words look a lot like these words from your source and so maybe you should go take an appointment at the writing center. Have the writing center. Show you how you can properly site this or a better paraphrase it. But i also know that i have colleagues that would see a report like that and be like automatic at. You're done in so. It's i think it's a teacher mindset for sure but for the people who are in positions of power in can choose you know where to spend monies. Let's not keep feeding companies. Who are just making profits off of our kids gross so you have a thermostat my nest thermostat not anymore. Because i'm taking it down part me no. I a really fascinating article. Last week. That that talked about the terms of service for a net third a nest thermostat and i saw a little bit of context. I was shopping for a robot vacuum around christmas time and my husband was laughing at me because i really wanted to know about the data collection and the damage. Wonder no if i robot knows the floor plan of your house. Of course i grow button. Does the floor plan a week. Who is who is. I robot selling the floor plan of my house to lower. The people are buying that floor plan somehow profiting off of my vacuuming habits or lack of vacuuming habits In so with ness camera. If you're gonna read through the terms of service and look at all of the different partners and places that shares data with you'd actually have to read through. I think it was something like fifty five other companies terms of services to make sure that you really are okay with having this thermostat in your home. And that's because of the the data sharing that happens behind the scenes so again. I don't say that in a way that's like. Oh my gosh go rip that thing out of the wall thrown in the garbage can just don't think that as a society we have a really strong collective understanding of what is happening with our data every time we give up a little piece of it very intentionally obtuse to write data data privacy agreements Terms of service agreements. They're they're written in like it's it's a page that pops up that allows you with a big blue button that says except yeah and your eyes go right to it and you click it. You don't even read the damn words and it's it's done that way intentionally. Because they don't want you to read the words right well. They're difficult and so i don't really know i don't really know any like class. That's like forget. Romeo and juliet this year. Let's dig into a terms of service agreement but like this big city right. That's super interesting early. That's that's really interesting and cool assignment. I hate it but it would be interesting to know like if if you understand and you read your cool with it like i did buy a robot vacuum but i want students to be empowered to understand their data's going how it's being used to make profit and then make a wise decision based on that knowledge. Not here to tell anybody what to decide. That's awesome so. I'm curious if you've seen this this study that that caught my attention and A while back. And it came to mind when i was Flipping through your your book in twenty twenty a group out of zurich university Released a study that compared to eighteen countries as far as their Resilience against disinformation and so the best defended. Countries were were finland denmark. Which sort of sounds for. I'll get to that in a minute and the the uk was ranked fifth with it. Was i. I don't know what the the there's a plus minus scale in. Finland was seven with denmark at five and uk was plus for the number. Eighteen was the united states and it was minus eleven. So i'm not sure this numbering scale but minus eleven generally is less than zero is generally in numbers a math expert. So what doesn't surprise you more. I guess that finland a nation that many hold up as a model for education at least we do in canada. I don't know what americans think of education but in canada. It's all we talk about. Is the finnish education system so finland Top in terms of resilience against disinformation on online and the united states is last what what's surpri. What doesn't surprise you more cash. I think the us being at the bottom does not surprise me very much. And that's probably because i've just more familiar with though ways that we do. Don't teach about these things here in the united states than i am familiar with what finland's doing but i even look at canada and some of the projects that the canadian government is really backed like civics. I'm sure you're familiar with that. Civics projects the i xe latter really good work there. That it's great glands amazing. It is and there's just i mean there's some really interesting things happening in the united states from different colleges and universities and nonprofit organizations. The news literacy project is fabulous the stanford history education group has put out a really great curriculum called civic online reasoning. But the problem in the united states is that we have so many things for lack of a better word that we expect teachers to teach and we do a really poor job of taking things off the plate. Reprioritising new skills showing educators skills integrate with things that they've traditionally taught we tend here to just continue to pile on and hope that eventually you know somebody picks up on something somewhere and so you know. How old is the common core. Was that twenty ten already an epidemic of misinformation. But god forbid you stop prepping for a standardized test. Well that's just it like we know that what is not assessed is not prioritized and win. Assessments are tied to funding and funding performances tied to funding. Do you blame schools and educators for prioritizing the task versus. What's not on the towns. I mean it's. It's a horrible conundrum. That i don't think we're gonna fix until we really leave rethink our national approach to school funding. We rethink what we prioritize in terms of skills and content and then we do a much better job training our pre service teachers in all of these different skills and how to integrate them authentically and not see them as all these little tiny stand-alones that they have to cram into their day. I mean teachers are overwhelmed overwhelmed. Just talking about it for sure. Kristen fantastic conversation. We're going to have to have you back. And i'm serious about that too. How can teachers connect with you online. And where we purchase your book. Yes so my book is published through esteem and so the book store is a great place to purchase a specially for st members. Who get a discount You can also find it on amazon. And i think that's it for right now. The st bookstore in amazon. I kind of all over the place on the internet. If you just search. Dr k matson can find me on twitter and clubhouse in syria and facebook I would also really encourage people to do a quick search for the digit doctors. I have just started a new partnership with dr leeann lindsay out of arizona shot and i have been doing this digital citizenship thing kind of separately but pair allow for many years and the pandemic just kind of brought us together. We were like. Why are we trying to do this work alone. We could be so much. More powerful is a team so we've got a lot of really great things kind of on the horizon to support teachers in this work because we realized that it is important work and we also realize that teachers need They need some supports so digit doctors is collaboration. That at love for people to connect with as will help kristen matson. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. I appreciate it. Now throw away that camera. The sandbox is creating a learning ecosystem were. Educators can learn in weekly streams bring ideas into their classrooms collaborate with other educators and become sandbox ambassadors ago for this is to shoulder will hallowed barrier can be teaching and running game making who are no code and accessible platform. Anyone can do it. Bashar an education. You can feel it in the streams as we explore and share ideas. Run game in your teaching. Practice joined the community to learn more at go up participate dot com slash sandbox. Thanks for listening to on education. 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Episode 101: San Francisco (or "Don't Call it San Fran")

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56:11 min | 1 year ago

Episode 101: San Francisco (or "Don't Call it San Fran")

"Hey Babe what's up. What's the difference between California Mexican food in Texas Mexican food? We are not going to get a divorce in the first episode of Our podcast. Thirty seconds is it that case though is the best part of Mexican food fucking. Do you consider Cuba to be the best. Hi Jeremy where the accident prone travelers behind practical on your less and we're here to dish out. Travel tips tricks. Useful Trivia. Useless Trivia mildly Lee entertaining anecdotes. And everything else you need to void making all of our terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible mistakes and we make a lot of mistakes today. We're going to be talking about one of our favorite cities San Francisco city by the bay. And this is because I mean we we kinda live. Here I've lived here for for like twelve years now. Jesus Christ are eleven years old. Eleven years I've lived here for like eight years but when I say here I actually live in Oakland which is outside citing Francisco. And we're not going to talk about it because although we love it it's not San Francisco we're GonNa be talking about SF. I've actually never lived in San Francisco I have. I lived there for about five five years when I moved here for College I was a bright eyed bushy tailed kid from a small coastal town and I took to the city like like a elephant conceals a water buck wife. I just WanNa read. Your origin story is now it was just a lot of messy nights in college. Basically what it was. You know what I think. I've seen that one I think. Did Amy Schumer starring that. Yeah actually that was my trainwreck. That was my life store. Anyway we're going to be talking about San Francisco. We're going to be giving you some actual information random fun tidbits Jeremy's local opinions about stuff and some stories about one very long story. That's very near and dear to us like spoilers. No it's not spoilers. It's like foreshadowing spoilers. Spoilers all right well. Let's jump into some weird stuff about San Francisco because people come here because it's weird it's the weirdest place. Like San Francisco is the epitome of weirdness one of my favorite favorite things. And you're gonNA actually notice this throughout the episode. We refuse to call it anything other than San Francisco or SF or the city. Those are the three acceptable notable things that you can call San Francisco no Frisco no San Fran like our ears start to bleed a little bit everybody here in San Francisco. We're very polite rate. But if we hear you calling it Frisco while we walk down the street will be very upset. And we'll probably like passive aggressively. tweet something about it. It don't do it. I goes acceptable. -ceptable twice if you're ordering a Frisco Mel from steak 'n shake which they don't even have here or maybe they do. Actually I forget. Or if you're in talking about Frisco Texas now neither of which of light is his inferences correct. So don't do it. The other thing is that we have personified are fog. That's rate what's our Fox name. Karl he has a twitter account. You guys can go follow him. Carl the fog the fog and we really gross thing where like will travel to another city and it'll just like beyond normal foggy day and we'll be like oh who curl you fold is here to home stood on Mo thank thank you. Let me just say that. That's only thing nobody else does that. Everybody does that. Everybody named Leo Garcia. NACHO everybody does that there's also a random herd of Bison I sent in Golden Gate Park one of my favorite weird facto AIDS Golden Gate. Park is also an amazing park that we have in the city. It's bigger than central park is out to flex on on you. But one of my top. Five must do's foreshadowing to use your word and talk about that later but yeah you can find the Bison there somewhere in Golden Gate Park. I've only found on them. Once they got a lot of lander roam around in they. Don't they're real easy to find about thereby chain of lakes drive okay anyway. There's also a lot of micro micro climates each neighborhood in San Francisco has its own personality and its own weather which is like when I say neighborhoods. We're not talking like you drive for five minutes and you get to like a different neighborhood neighborhood. It's like literally across the street like you can stand on one. St and be looking at Chinatown and behind you is little Italy and they can be completely different rant in every way. It's the weirdest thing. Yeah you'll walk you'll get off of translator out of your car and it'll be like super hot and then you'll be like oh I thought San Francisco's cold and you'll walk two you block and all of a sudden you're in a completely different world and you're freezing and this is why everybody tells you to wear layers which like you know we say where layers and that's just you're like. Oh put on a jacket doc it. That's not what we mean. What we mean is like one minute you're going to be ninety degrees and melting and then it's GonNa be six PM and you're going to be standing in the exact same spot and suddenly you're going to be freezing to death and if you try go to the beach you will freeze and it is horrible? I wish we're at the beach right now. It's really hot in here. It is extremely hot in here. Another thing that kind of drives me nuts honestly and I want to categorize crazy when this everyone and everything and San Francisco is like at least an hour behind constantly. Everything is super flaky. And everybody's just just like totally okay with it and it tries me fricken nuts. Let's California's a whole actually. It's especially bad in San Francisco like you're not really considered late until your over over two hours late and that includes parties like we have a habit now we we have a party. We tell all our friends to arrive two hours earlier than we actually think they're gonNA show up. Do you ever have. I've gotten a lot more responsible so can stop that listening now. Our friends are great at this point. Because I think we've cut out all those super flaky. The ones but like okay. Do you remember like when my sister came to visit. And they live on the East Coast and we had dinner reservations which is unusual because in San Francisco. That's usually just not a thing because we like to be really busy and elitist but we had dinner reservations and we were trying to get there at the right time and a series of late events jusque ask kept occurring like the bar was. The muny was late. The trolley was late everything was late and their heads were exploding and we were just like chill. This is fine. We're not and then we showed up and they were like it's chill. It's only six thirty or not even late. Taking the trolley. Nobody takes control. It was a touristy thing. It's nice you know this. The whole episode is literally just as talking about cool things to do visiting San Francisco. Right I know so speaking of things that like people have to do when they come here like some touristy some not what are your our top five things that you would recommend visitors do so okay. My number one thing is something that you won't find online we haven't even written about it. It's called Jericho it's this. It's like super cool spy game by a company called Fox Hound. Basically it's laser tag but the city of San Francisco is like your laser tag like floor level. Well I don't know if that's called you play laser tag you've got like this cool. Like Messenger bag with a gun inside and you've got like a mission and all your friends teams and you have to fight with them to like run to like vim bark. Heroin like steal something from seal or whatever and then like shoot your friends at you know the middle of Union Square and then like duck and roll and like find this guy. That's like wearing a mustache. It's so much fun. It's the most fun I've ever had in San Francisco. It's a laser tag spy walking tour. All right well I guess you could have described it much better than I could better. Yeah they have all these different missions like they have nighttime ones. They had daytime wines. I haven't actually done all of them but I've done a lot. We did one like Bride Party versus Groom Party and I kicked U. S.. Okay let me just say what happened. Lee is really clumsy. Wow and we were in. We were in north beach which is literally literally little Italy and it's super hilly and we were running around these hills duck and through strip clubs. Because that's what little Italy's known for and we got an shootout in in front of a strip club and then leaves around the corner and she's just screaming and like fake crying out fake cry and cussing feelings as she was like. I rolled my ankle angel. And you guys just kept playing and we were like Oh shit. Let's put a hold on. This really quickly is actually hurt. And I didn't want it to be like super hurt for the wedding and friends friends. My friends who are all like my friends are all really good at everything. Like I've got one best friend WHO's a marathon runner one best friend who's like a circus performer. And they're just like doing flips and shit off of buildings just like running around. Yeah they had to get across town in like ten minutes before the time ran out and then my brother-in-law and I are like tending the Lia and it turns out that she was like spinning a yarn. The whole time. That's okay. I was spinning a yarn. I actually did roll angle. It actually did hurt. I had a feeling I may have played it up for the sake of drama but it was valid. I didn't lie to you or was number two number two actually. This is something that we stuck into our wedding in gas like little gift baskets. It's our Self Guided San Francisco Walking tour so Jeremy came up with this whole route. Where you start at the embark aero you go all the way past the seals pasture thirty nine all the way up to geared Elliot Square? You go through quite tower through all that area up there. It's absolutely beautiful. And then you take back down because I think it's really fine. And we actually had the entire San Francisco walking tour on our blog. If you google like anything's Self Guided San Francisco walking toward anything like that. You'll find a link to it in this podcast description. But it's really fun. It's hey it's like six miles. It takes like two and a half hours. And it's a great way to see San Francisco though free on your own two feet and you get to meet some seals which is the best thing not even halfway through episode one and we've already got our first plug you all right to be there. We also mentioned seals like four times so seals are wedding. There's GonNa be more plugs though because we have a lot of content about San Francisco. It's going okay my nightlife at the CAL Academy of Sciences. So we have this Awesome Science Museum in Golden Gate Park so you have to like navigate past like her device in verse but they do this thing called nightlife every Thursday night. And it's like the whole Science Museum turns into like doc and kind of like a nightclub like it's twenty one and up every week has a theme and it's all like themed around some cool Scienc- thing the food is themed drinks are themed. There's all these different exhibits on all different floors and you get to access the entire museum and also do this cool nightclub thing For like half the price of a regular admission and you don't have to deal with kids which kids but not when I'm drunk at a nightclub that also science museum you know they're also all over L. Academy during the day so it's nice when the kids aren't there. It's really fine so if you're here on a Thursday night definitely check out my next thing this goes with your your like amy. Schumer messy beam karaoke at butter. So butter is a white white trash themed bar which we love. And I'm allowed to say away trash because I'm here in Kentucky in you're allowed to say white trash because I was born Bakersville. Yes I was going to say it so basically really every Sunday night. Butter does Kariuki. So you can get like you're white trash themed drinks which talk about later and you're white trash themed food think like you know deep fried twinkies and like Ravioli out of a can and sing Karaoke and like you might be picturing like some down home you know drunk Mascaro key but this is like this is like we're series Carrio years like come to play this highbrow hot Mascara. There's actually like a competitive like Karaoke teams Francisco this up. It's one guy I. It has a competitive shirt I don. I can't vouch for this that it's an actual league. But he does. We did see a shirt one time. So you like nine and basically you need one song and you can having to have practiced your song. Because you're only going to get the thing. The song and I know that sounds less fun. But it's way more fun because you feel like a rockstar. And we'd love Karaoke butter so much that we actually hire the Karaoke Dj EJ to do our wedding reception. 'cause we had karaoke wedding reception and it was awesome. Yeah he's also got like really cool selection of of songs that you you've definitely heard these songs things whether they were in like video games or like obscure references deep you goes. He's got a deep bench. Yeah but there's also a caveat if you're going to sing Bohemian Immune rhapsody or don't stop believe in you have to pay five dollars. Yeah the Katie days name is Roger Niner. We love him he also does the same. Where like if you're sucking on your song? He will jump. I've been an sing with you. And he he has the voice of an angel. It's not just if you're sucking on it if he's also into the Song Oh yeah and they'll harmonize with you. You don't have a partner. He'll be your duet partner. It's it's actually so fun and you'll probably see us there if you go because we go a lot. I usually do under pressure with him. That's pretty mercury. Yeah I usually do Britney spears. It's still a show. I also do Johnny Cash. It's easy go to. We should probably move to the next auto okay so my next one is exploring golden gate park which talked about. We talked about Cal Academy we talked about the Bison. It's huge Golden Gate Park. We already said it's bigger than Central Park. It's it stretches all the way from Like the Haight Ashbury neighborhood which you've probably heard of because hippies to the ocean is enormous and you could just spend all day walking through it biking through it like you'll probably come come across lake some cool hippies that have been there since the sixties you'll probably come across like random other museums the museum there which is really awesome and it's just gorgeous. There's a beautiful Japanese garden in the middle of their and you just feel like you stepped into Japan. There's just so much to do in there. You could spend days just getting lost in there and then while you're on that side of the city my other one that I really love in that area is called the batteries to bluffs trail so this is one of my favorite places to view the Golden Gate Bridge. Because you've always he's got to look at it right like you can't come to San Francisco and not take a bunch of bridge southeast but if you go to like the touristy bridge spot there's just a bunch of tourists and a parking lot and it's just like not the best so head up the road a little bit. And you'RE GONNA go into the presidio which is like this beautiful national not national. It's a state park but anyway it's just like park area around the Golden Gate Bridge and and there's this trail that runs from these old historic batteries. All the way down to the ocean and at the bottom of the ocean when you get to the end of the trail is a nude beach which is just a fun little San Francisco experience. You know you can't really you can't say you've been a San Francisco if you didn't see some deck it's not directly at the bottom of the stairs. You gotta you gotTa wonder around the bottom bottom of the stairs and five feet. I believe this is also where burning man was started right. Yeah Yeah so But that's definitely the best place to see the Golden Gate Bridge and it's just a beautiful. It's like one mile trail and it's just it's lovely highly. Recommend what are your favorite. Must Do's so mine are a few minor pretty seasonal the first one which okay. I'm way too old to party anymore. I got that all out in the twenty s but I will say that one of the best parties by far is Beta breakers which happens in the spring and it's a marathon that starts at the bay so on the eastern side of the city and it goes goes down market street and down Hayes all the way over to the ocean on the other side and just making this sound exhausting. It's a marathon but that's not at all it matters. No that's like that's like like what it is on the surface but really what it is is everybody follows the marathon runners and just parties through the city. Everyone gets in crazy costumes costumes and everybody tries to hide alcohol because like officially you can't have alcohol but everyone is drunk and UC super interesting costumes. And it's all like these group costumes. Our favorite one was a group dressed as the Jurassic Park ride. They even had a tyrannosaurus rags and he would like come pop up and they would all be like Has a little yellow strap. said they would like get into order. It was super cute. I just love how you're doing. Like rollercoaster moves right now which nobody nobody can see. Because it's a podcast. While I was doing rollercoaster moves anyway. It's a huge part of. There's so many like house parties that you pass along the route to. It's just so much fun. My first week week that I was in San Francisco was Beta breakers and I live on the route and my roommates just woke me up with a pin gwyn costume a shot and a PBR. And he was like it's it's Beta breakers will explain later. Don't let anyone use our bathroom which you did not follow. No I did follow it but the year before they didn't they let one person in the bathroom and then they got finished getting ready and they walked out and there was like a line of twenty people in the living room. Those informative dead. Yeah but it's Super Fun Even if you're not a big drinker last time we were there we were sober and we still had a lot of fun. You do have to be comfortable with naked people because like we said it is legal here in nudity is just part of Beta breakers and and you just you gotta learn to live with that. You're in San Francisco. We usually start like a bet that is boobs buts or Dick's game which twins we're GonNa see the most of and we keep a running tally which I've realized that's always win. It covers their but but they're like oh but frying fall hanging out now but they're always out it's always win running out scalise. That's always my other must do. My other recommendation is a picnic and Dolores Park fellow. I'm hoping we cut that out now. We're not cutting it out. Dolores Park is a park between the mission and the Castro throw. It is one of the most beautiful views and it's always got the best weather and it's real easy to spot because everyone is going. They're not even. I'm just on a weekend weekdays two. It's always filled with people drinking becoming like nobody in San Francisco has job. Apparently everyone brings their dogs. Everyone ruined brings like some elaborate game. I remember seeing giant beer pong where they had like the rubbermaid trash cans instead of Red Solo Cup. That's amazing and they use a beach ball. I I may actually be able to do that. I'm pretty good at that. There's also a Guy Michael also known as the room coconut guy. He's got long dreads and he just walks around with bag of Michetti and a cooler and he'll just pull a coconut out and offer you like a coconut and then he'll hack it up and then pour rum and and if you want. There's the girl with the Swiss Miss Outfit with edibles. Yeah she's got edibles of all kinds like and they're all serial based so it's like I really like fruit. I really like APPLEJACK applejack so I wanted to have an apple. Jacks edible and no like weed is legal in California but this has been going on since longtime ago way before it was actually legal legal. But they're still they're like they don't care anytime somebody and Dolores Park walks up and like offers you something just you know by it. It's probably fine but also assume it's got weeded. There's even an app you can find your friends in Dolores. Park dislike most San Francisco APP that I've ever heard of this is called Dullsville another thing that I always say to do and again this is only half the year but you have to go to a giants game Oracle Park is beautiful eighteen. At and T.. Sorry I know it used to be used to be packed bill. No that's too old. Yeah so it's one of the most actually is the most beautiful park in the country. Ballpark I mean. Is that just like you saying that or no. That was the Major League Baseball Association. Okay they have a ton of great food. Because because it's San Francisco. We have the best food. Don't add me but got really good. Food are like garlic. Fries are seem so good. Our team used to be good. Wow how I don't think a lot to be fan if you say that no years. That hasn't been even years have been the case since two thousand fourteen go is all right. I I live in Oakland all right. There's also really good drink. Drink options Gear Deli has like salted caramel hot chocolate thousand. That was what I was GONNA say him. Go see a game but it does get freezing if it's a night game or blazing hot if it's a day game. Yeah because there's a lot of sun exposure and you also get really like moist like if you're still at the park nine pm. No it's true like moist because the fog rolls in the fog rolls in and you you just realize you're just soaking wet. Even though it's not raining in theory and then Siegel start like circling overhead. And you just Kinda round like ten. PM You just. I just feel like you're in like the birds you got out of there. If you've ever been no baseball game you know that around the seven and seventh innings. Stretch your thinking. Oh they're up by a few points. The game might might turn. But you also know that there's very few dramatic endings to baseball games. So I will say that if you get to that point and you realize the game's GonNa go one way. Just go just go. It's impossible supposed to get on the first train home. You're going to be there. You'RE GONNA be out until midnight. My fourth thing is to see a show now that a few things so it can mean a concert a play it could mean drag show There's tons of news where this is possible. There's a lot more independent places like Bottom of the hill is a smaller caller venue. But it's really famous because a lot of now famous people have played there. The mission has a ton of different venues. Protrero Hill has a lot. The tenderloin has a lot so you can just find like either a small or a large one and most days of the week. There's either GonNa be a concert a drag show or play so the orpheum and The Act Theater have off Broadway shows so we just saw Hamilton there all right. We're not going to talk about that. I didn't hate it I just anyway. We're GONNA just things a lot for putting me on blast on our podcast. Our favorite drag show is coming up next month. We've been seeing it for the last few years. It's it's a buffy. The vampire slayer drags really take a whole season of buffy and they make it into the most amazing epic drag show like there's like special effects initial. Yeah it's ridiculously good like the production quality is like I was blown away my last thing and again. This is seasonal. Because it's usually just hot weather and you have a ton of options here but go to a festival there are music festivals such as hardly strictly Bluegrass side land outside lands exactly but there's also tons of like street fairs like the how Weird Festival kicks off the festival season in April. The Pride Festival is huge. which obviously there's the FOLSOM street festival? which if you're in the city in September Selassie Sunday September so fulsome is the leather festival? We're done kink. Not just like you know cowboys cowboys cowboys. But we're talking about like kink leather. which is awesome? If you're into that is a little jarring if you're just here with your your family and you didn't have that discussion beforehand. Maybe So you just you know just know if you're coming in to check if you're coming during FOLSOM street fair. It's a lot of fun if you are willing to be in that space. And not be judgmental in that space and understand boundaries and consent and all that kind of thing which is very. Ah Very much enforced to their but butter which is right next to folsom. We talked about Carioca butter after folsom street. Fair is a blast. It is next next level wild because fulsome starts like before noon and Karaoke doesn't start until nine thirty pm so yeah people have been getting real messy bring ringer course. Oh yeah so. I mentioned one of the one of the best things that San Francisco has is our food. That's my like eighth. Best thing to do in San Francisco is just like eat just just like eat everything we have the best food here. What would you say is like one of the tops? Okay so you can't come to San Francisco and not have clam chowder bowl like I know it's Cliche but it's Cliche for a reason because it's delicious richest and super filling cozy and it's always like cold and foggy rate so I talked about our Lake Self guided walking tour. That's one of the things along the tour because you pass right by booting bakery like they had like a factory where they make sourdot and they create these little sour dough bread bowls and also like adorable sourdot animals in the shape of turtles which is my favorite and then they put like clam chowder and and it's really good and honestly like I want to tell you it's like the best clam chowder in the world. The bread is pretty good But it's just like one of those classic San Francisco Cisco Things and it is really cozy and it hits the spot every time I grew up and coastal town and so I grew up eating clam chowder in a red bull and I will say that I I still am not tired of San Francisco's Clam Chowder Bible. Yeah it's good for a reason. I have a place in my heart. Very near and dear for Burritos Rita's San Francisco whole heart. I feel your heart is actually just Brito shaped it's the doctor says I need less really unhealthy. So Oh San Francisco really loves their Britos so much in fact that that they will fight you if you like the wrong burrito and talking about yourself. I'll fight you if you say you liked the wrong burrito and now you're you're right it's the San Francisco Bay. There was a national competition for the best Burrito in the country and San Francisco held the two of the four finalists spots. Now there are two that are Mijo. Choose the first one is Tucker Cancun but they have a couple of locations the one in nineteen th and mission is the best one. I can't believe you have a specific location to you. Not so ridiculous. How long have you lived here? I live in Oakland The other one that I I really like is l.. Far Alito on twenty four th in mission but the actual winner of the competition was locked up career all three of them good options. But I do love Doc Kuhn the most okay. You're not going to back. That claim up. We're GONNA have a bunch of angry people on. You're just gonNA leave that there. No those people are going to walk down mission street and have three Burritos and then and then tweet at us saying that I was right. The first one was the best. I would like pictures to go with that when you do that at practical wander. Thank you I'm going to say if you WanNa Burger in San Francisco. Your best bet is super duper. It's not something that we're like super known for but super-duper is definitely other than in and out like a a classic Burger Place to go in San Francisco. I would also had oysters to the list. Oysters or like a local thing. There's a whole bunch of local oyster farms up near point race and we get like really good. Ed like usually about one dollars each oysters and you can get those Swan Depot. They are delicious. Just I know they're kind of like squishy or whatever but like just shoot them they're actually really good. One of my favorite replaces has actually gone through a lot of changes. And it's one of the more boozy places in San Francisco it used to be called Martine and then the restaurant closed and kept open their bakery but now the restaurants back and it's called Tarquin manufactory and we are a second date at Barton special place in our hearts. Yeah that's a really really special place for us because he is our second date and I- scrimped and saved for that date years. I imagine you boy was broke. It was sweet though. He was like sweating when we sat down. He looked at the menu. And I could tell so. I think we like ordered like one. APPETIZER to share. And just like savored it for a while but it was really cute and you paid which was nice it was one of. Are Those all take the salad and a water situation. Yeah and I think we shared the salad and the water. California was in a drought at the time. Another one is you gotta get get dumplings like San Francisco has a really rich history with Asian culture and we have incredible Asian food one of the best places to get soup. Dumplings MS dumpling kitchen which is like Over on the western side of San Francisco around Golden Gate Park. You'll be getting into the foggier areas so bring layers But the soup you've dumplings or like the easiest pillow little fluff balls of soup and they are so good. The next place that I would recommend is called foreign cinema and it is always on like the top OP. Restaurants Have San Francisco. It's been on there for years. It's been one of the best restaurants in San Francisco for a minute. Yes so you sit outside. There's like a little awning and when you eat while there's like a giant projector playing a foreign film and Oh hence the name hence the name we went there once on a SCAVENGER hunt date which we'll talk about later future episode and awesome. Yeah but we were way too should house to enjoy that meal. I remember I remember being being like. This is the best steak I've ever had and I think I might have through it up later and felt really bad about it. It was so good and then the other really good like fancied fancier despite which is still surprisingly affordable if you wanna like ball out but like not like French laundry ball out which was like four hundred dollars a meal? This is more like the thirty dollars. Range is Noga and it's an awesome restaurant. It's definitely fruity and boozy. But like affordable and you can if you sit in the second level you can watch them in the kitchen which is really fine. It's like dinner and a show. Yeah we did that a couple of times except one time. There was a fire in the kitchen. Probably our faults we bring bad luck everywhere we ago we do. That's a theme throughout this podcast. Spoilers spoilers What about drinks like now thirsty? What are your favorite drinks in San Francisco? One of my favorite places to get aid. Drink is ritual coffee but like a coffee drink drink. He takes a coffee drink. The only one that thinks thinks that's funny okay. Whatever they're not all going to land I mean if you WanNa if you WANNA merge coffee handle Whiskey Whiskey drink? There's two cafe yeah. I Love Win Investor Cafe. They were the first restaurant or bar. I guess to introduce Irish coffee in. They say all all of North America but definitely San Francisco and it's like they do the whole thing like the age it and it's really freaking good if you go to like the very back of the restaurant. There's this little room that nobody they ever really knows about with this window. That looks out on the water. Like out on over gearless square. And it's really really pretty. Yeah you can also get your coffee. You can get with whiskey or Cognac in yards or brandy sorta choose what alcohol you want. I also will say you glass right over another opportunity for a completely shameless self-promotion self-promotion which is that. If you Google the best shops in San Francisco you will find our blog on it. We have a guide it was written by a Barista in San Francisco. Shout out to Tom. Yeah Jeremy Actually when we met that was a Barista in San Francisco which is probably why remarried live in that highlife. That's like trophy has been goals for me. He doesn't make me coffee every single morning and brings it to me in bed so so sometimes it's instant much like shame you had when you said that if it's like the sweetest thing they don't let me into coffeeshops good instant though you know ritual has five dollars per packet instant coffee now. Do that's crazy to me. So so since we're facing in twos. My two favorite bars are actually owned by the same company and those are Bourbon and branch and tradition and all of this company's bars are like speak easy themed but sort of a like a different varying levels. Throw prohibition themed let's say and and Bourbon and branch is super speakeasy. You need to you. Need a code word to get inside and the code word decides which room you get into so you can go to the normal all like booths or going to tell you the password or you can or you can go into the library area which is sort of standing room only or you can go into the secret. Detective -tective agency which is where we had that like fancy cocktail class that we took. I didn't even know there was a secret to attack agency inside the bar but it turns out if you dig a how class there you get to go in. The whole bar is hidden so you just walk passing. It doesn't look like anything but then if you take a class here in the detective agency and now I can't not see the detective agency. Yeah now we know. Our eyes have been opened but in tradition is a little bit more like a regular bar. There's no password it's still looks prohibition ask but they do their own casket. So they'll one of my favorites. Is They have a twelve year. Bow More Scotch. That's aged in Pinot noir asked sounded so do she's saying that like I love you but like you did is delicious if we if you just like beer and your life is rolling your eyes listening to us talk about fancy drinks. My favorite favorite place to go for beer is called Golden Gate taproom. They have like. I don't know hundreds of different beers and like all these games and they have like really ridiculous shit like I. I am a beer snob. And I like only enjoy Belgian beer because Belgian ruined us which is a future episode but they have some really good Belgian imports. It's and it's a good time plus Ski Bowl. I mean how can you lose it Skibo. Another good one for leg. More casual night is butter so we talked about butter already. It's real down home. It's real trashy. And they have like the best drinks and they they pour him strong My favorite is called Latchkey T. It's it's long island except for it's made with strawberry soda instead of Coke it's delicious and then you like you like. The Junkyard. Dog Ran the Junkyard Dog. It's Vanilla Stoli Vodka and and root beer. But it's like the good root beer that Thomas Keller whatever it's called And then also like the Cherry bomb. It's Black Cherry. Revolved Co was squirt and it tastes as messy as it sounds. Butter is a is a hot mess. They also do Jello shots and if you order Jello shot they just bring them around for everybody. Which I love you can never knock butter? It's the best sometimes. It's like too much that's just because we're old. Honey that's true I also have to shout out to some tiki rooms lake. Okay so first of all Oakland invented the tiki room. Let's just say it. That was us but San Francisco has some really good good one. So they've got the Tonga Room which is in the FAIRMONT. And we're GONNA talk about the Fairmont more in a minute but it's super cool. They had like a pool in the middle of the room. There's like like a thunderstorm. Every few minutes always live music playing. It's it's a really good time. And then they have smugglers cove so smugglers cove is a cute a little bar in San Francisco. It's kind of tucked away. You have to like find it but they have over seven hundred different types of rum and their menu is organized by like history of Rom. uh-huh so it's like it's like educational like learn things like the history of Jamaican rum in the history of Dominican Rahman like all of the bartenders are like encyclopedias of Ron. And then also you're getting drunk from like a giant bowl of flaming delicious rum drink. It's a great time. It's also a really cool ambience. Because when you walk in you look looks like you're in a pirate ship like there's three bars in the top one. Looks like you have to climb to a crow's nest. Yeah it's really fun so after you get like really drunk and and you had dinner. What are your favorite like treats like? Where would you go get like a little dessert? So I'm a big connoisseur of ice cream. You look so proud of yourself as you said that there's just like a glow about you right now. There's a lot of really good ice cream spots in San Francisco but one that I think is above all is called Humphry. Slocombe can't really go wrong with any of the flavors with Humphrey Slocombe. I prefer secret breakfast. which has like Bourbon Carmel? And cereal Israel on it. Yeah it's it's not my favorite but I like everything else that Humphry slocum and there's one in the ferry building so when you're starting out on your self guided walking tour of San Francisco you can go there. I just put it out there. They had a ended episode with per Shuto Ice Cream on like good eats or something. Yeah Slocombe something famous. We probably have looked that up. speaking of things that are in the ferry building Danny Lyon chocolate. I loved any land chocolate. It's like fancy boozy lake single origin. Chocolate They do bean to bar. And they're like original location is in the mission you can go there and take like tasting sauces In my favorite thing is that they have a bunch of free samples which I absolutely abuse But they're really really good really chocolate. Well you know what we gave them free Promo so now. Donna can pay the rent with exposure. You welcome to any line. I'll send you an invoice breath. One of the stops that I always go to on messy nights especially messy nights in the Castro is hot cookie which is a cookie shop on sixteenth in market. That is famous for their dick shaped cookies. There's also female torsos. Yeah no it's it's like an equal opportunity dirty cookie place but it's not the high. Cookie is like the best cookie of your life. But it's just like a really good time I disagree with you. I think their regular cookies are really good. But you just don't like macaroni and the Knicks are all macaroni. That's true that's true but I always think about like so one time. We were standing in line hockey after a really fun night out in the Castro may have been to see a drag show. It was the I was buffy last year And we're like standing in line nine and this guy who's clearly from Outta town is like looking at this long line of people outside of this tiny little window and he's just looking back and forth. He goes up to look at the cookies. He comes back and you just like starts like shouting and confusion. And he's like is it just because they're shaped like penis in everybody in. That line was just like yes. Yeah that's why that's the whole thank and it's true that's the whole thing. That's enough the really good they also sell merch and that much is just tiny underwear. How many times have we talked about penises and this episode like more more than seals at this point? I think possibly even more than Self Promo truly are winning. The Dick's are winning this time. Okay one last. One is a coconut gun in Chinatown. And I can't tell you a specific place 'cause I always forget and I can never find them but there's like these little one dollar coconut binds in a random in a bakery in Chinatown. Probably all of them and they are delicious. Just really good. Yeah you really can't go wrong with. Chinese bakery treats orders anywhere in Chinatown and have the Fortune Cookie factory there which is really fun to like. Get little broken ones. Do they sell like a giant bag of broken ones for super cheap. I WANNA see. We invented the Fortune Cookie. I think that's true. One of our listeners should let us know we. Just I really just make just make up a giant giant ball statement which actually that leads me to another point though like we invented a lot of shit and we've got like quite a history. Why do you think San Francisco is like such a big deal and like we are a big deal? Let's it's just be honest about it. We're big deal. Why are we such deal? I think San Francisco just brings out a few troops. It's always dreamers and and people on the fringes of society. So I think of that when I think of like the gold rush we came out here because there is inter. There's enterprising zing spirits but there are also already sort of on the fringe. They were already sort of weird. They're like frontiers people and then when we get to like the nineteen hundreds on your skipping over the whole part where like. They showed up with like their enterprising spirits and just pushed out like all of the first Americans who were already living here. Let's just talk about got it. That happened that sucked it absolutely sucked which also I mean. It's it's home to a lot of people who do push out people and without very little little care for somebody else's experienced also the origin. I found out this weekend. That's the origin of how Chinese immigration came to San Francisco that they were actually part of of the The gold rush they came along with the enterpreneurs Some of them were business people. Some of them were helping with business. People's various needs like vegetable growing. I think was one of their major jobs anyway. I literally just learned this all this weekend because we were in Nevada city which is a cute little gold rush town which we won't talk about now But we have this really fascinating history and that was like kind of the beginning of San Francisco as we know it today and I think you still see you. I still see pieces of that in a different form today. I mean anybody who's lived in San Francisco their whole lives or even a few years. You know the big thing that people always say is that you know transportation is changing it and I think that's part of what San Francisco is. Everybody has their San Francisco. There was Eureka San Francisco and turned the century San Francisco and then there was like summer of Love San Francisco and then there was Silicon Valley San Francisco and the constant in. All of those. San Francisco's is that it's is constantly changing. It's constantly whatever's the next big thing and the next like big idea in American culture for good or for bad. It makes huge changes. Well I mean from from some people. It's always for bad for some it's for good. I mean if you go to San Francisco now. We have a really big problem with homelessness the largest population density of homeless per capita. And it's a couple of factors the main ones being that historically homeless were okay here and so cities would just cities like Las Vegas specifically an La. They put their homes on a bus and say go to San Francisco. They have way more resources than we do. And add to that the tech boom right right now is closing up homes and shops to make room for high rises and office spaces and it's putting more families out on out on the street or pushing them out of their neighborhood that they've been in for generations and then adds that that are former air are late mayor. Ed Lee was really problematic and his solutions about homelessness. Yeah I also want to go back just circle back to your point about other cities sending us. They're homeless because they did used to. We used to be able to accommodate for that right like we used to have plenty of space but something you'll notice when you're visiting San Francisco is that quite a lot of our homeless are also experiencing being mental health crises. We have a lot of unmedicated like especially UNMEDICATED. schizophrenics in San Francisco so you'll notice just walking on the streets you'll see somebody like talking to themselves screaming to themselves And it's it's very clear that that's a person who's experiencing homelessness and there's like reasons as for that not only were people released from healthcare institutions. I'm institutions years and years ago and have never been able to get help ever since but when you're talking about like illegal shipping of homeless people up to San Francisco. Most of them were mentally. Ill people who didn't have any kind of resources didn't have have healthcare. Didn't have family to pay for them. They were the people that need the most help. And it's just incredibly cruel that some cities were shown to be to be shipping. People that need mental help To San Francisco so it's really something to keep in. Mind that when you are seeing those people that are having mental health crises. They're more danger to themselves than they are to you. They're they're not out to hurt you. They're not criminals. They're on the streets because they need medication that they can't access and homelessness has been shown to exacerbate mental illnesses says so it's actually very triggering very harmful for them to be homeless to be unstable and another issue that you'll notice while you're visiting San Francisco There's a lot of like bad smells Mel's There's a lot of human waste. It's not pretty I don't want to gloss over it. The reason why is because there's not enough public restrooms in San Francisco and so for for the our homeless neighbors who live here. They don't have a safe place to be. They don't have a safe place to use the restroom and it's it's really. It's it's inhumane honestly and so I really would encourage you while you're visiting have compassion and empathy. Because those are those are people right. There are neighbors San Francisco residents and they don't. We don't have the resources to be able to to help them. In the way that need to be helped and so they are experiencing something much more unpleasant than you are when you have to hold your breath or walk by and be a little bit bothered by them screaming. They are really having they have it a lot worse than you sell. Please show some compassion and empathy for them and you might be thinking. Well if I'm visiting how am my contributing to like the bad side of this. Am I contributing to gentrification by being here. 'cause I'm staying at like an AIRBNB. or which if you're saying in an airbnb maybe maybe depends on where we actually do. Have a guide on where to stay in San Francisco which really does dive into the gentrification issue. We've got a lot of recommendations on like different neighborhoods to stand and different kinds of accommodations that we recommend staying in so that you won't be directly contributing to gentrification but tourism as a whole and this I mean I could go on about this for hours but tourism can really benefit a city and provide creates. Jobs provides a lot of economy. So don't feel like you shouldn't come here. Because we're experiencing extreme extreme gentrification but do so mentally and make sure to educate yourselves about some of the issues that you'll experience while you're here it's a great city to visit. It's a beautiful city. It's a vibrant city. It's a romantic city. Just educate yourself and make sure that you are traveling as responsibly. Yeah which is a weird pivot but she said romantic and I kind of want to talk about our most romantic story in San Francisco is a weird visit so weird pivot. Let's do I don't no how to I don't know how to there's no graceful. There's no graceful way to end that conversation that we just had my favorite San Francisco story is about the time. Well I. It's about when our first dates so we're a few months into dating and we go to this fancy Sushi date in San Francisco and on that date Leah He's got a weird sense of humor and they were what were they. Were getting the tables set up for like the breakfast service or whatever and they had these tiny little jars of jam and mustard. They were really cute. They're Super Q. They were like the size of a thimble. They were really tiny. I don't even know how you were supposed to get all of the jam out of there but Leah thought it'd be funny if we would just steal them so she was like what is huges. Go Up in St Louis Jar of me. Is that when you're laughing and trying to talk. I don't know if I was laughing. I might have just been like all right guy that we've been on three days. Here's what we're going to jail. He was more than three. We're GONNA steal all these jars so anyway I don't want to be a wet blanket. I'll save that for after we're married and I'm like fine. Let's do these jars so one of us like distracts the waitress. We have a whole song and dance and we do like a weird little creep around the table and just swoop if one of the jars. Yeah it was pretty smooth honestly and that was the point in which we descended into a night of pure criminal exploitation. We became mm-hmm like extreme criminals. Guys this is. This is the story about the time we were criminals. Yeah we decided that we were going to steal every every useless thing that we could find everything that like. Nobody would care. Somebody stole it. We were GONNA steal. We rode the elevator down from the restaurant. There was on the third floor and those little floor marking signs of the end of the elevators. One of them was the glue was coming off and so I took it. We stole it. We stole that. It was number three. I should have it in our apartment. Didn't give a fuck. We superstars how that's how intense I am. We were bad. We were so bad we took. It was so dumb stuff. It was like men's when we didn't talk to the person who is handing out the or like a toothpick or I think I grabbed a piece of potpourri counter. We had like this little collection and then I decided to take it up a notch and I was like all right. It's really cool that we're stealing stuff but let's go sneak into stuff. I want to trespass because we were dressed up like really fancy like you're wearing like your fanciest suit formation and the cost twenty dollars and I was wearing like a thrift store address and I was like we're fancy. Now let's go sneak stuff like we belong there so we went to this hotel that we won't say which it is but it has a famous elevator. We're not going to tell you which one it is because we are flying full on going to tell you a bunch of secrets about it that you should not do so. It's got famous elevator which we won't tell you about what we can tell you is that you can take that elevator up to a very cool tower with very cool view Except for you have to have a room key to take the elevator. We snuck behind these fancy old people who clearly we're we're going up to the tower like acted like we also were going up to the tower press the button and I was like. Oh yeah same floor Harambe I. I was like remember Matt Profits Mirror so we went up there and we went through an emergency exit door and it was just started like skulking around the floor like poking stuff and like stealing seeing what we could steal Steal Moist towelettes car O. We did steal a moist. Towel Ed Yeah and yeah so then we've found like this door and we just we were like. Let's open this door because we were being hardened criminals at this point. Let's open the store and Trespass Amore and it was like this really cool like little like fire escape way up in like this. Like top floor of this tower. That looked out over the twinkling lights of San Francisco and it was so romantic. This story is not going to get sexy. There is no knows ex happened but I will say that one of the things people do in this famous elevator. That we won't tell you anything about is they hit the emergency Uh Stop Button and the bang. which we didn't do we do not do that? We are definitely not that cool so we walked the Fairmont and we start we were started wandering around L. I. O.. More stuff. I WANNA take this like I want to apologize to the Fairmont here. We love the FAIRMONT. We have a lot of love for this specific San Francisco. Fairmont hotel is not bill but we definitely bent some rules during our visit to the Fairmont. We definitely may have stolen some blocks of soap. I think link and cements. They had some cute little pill laments and we weren't staying there and we took some this was. This was the only remotely big deal steel that we got actually. Yeah we that the I've pulled a piece off of the off of Chandelier in a conference room. I guarded the door. I guarded the door Jeremy Stolen. He's the chandelier. Look Fairmont hotel. If you want your piece of chandelier shaped like a pinecone back we still have it somewhere in our apartment you can have it back but yes we deal it. We are horrible people so after our thefts were done and we made off with the booty we had like a whole. Oh collection of like random shit. Do we went down to terrorist room and there was an Indian wedding going on and we were just like let's crash this wedding and then and we realized like we shouldn't crash a wedding. That's not okay but it was really fun for the five minutes that we were there before we realized that we were being the rudest people everything smelled so good I just wanted to plow through their buffet and it was like everybody was dancing in lake. It was so much fun we did not plow through their buffet. That was like that was the line. We were like all right. No no further so we went onto the rooftop. It's got this rooftop terrace that looks over the city. Got these big palm trees with lates. It's super for romantic. It was so romantic. We're like gazing out at the twinkling lights of San Francisco while the fog rolled in and this was like our third date. There's an our third day. Why do you keep saying that? I don't know third month of data it was it was early. We went to the edge of the terrorists and it was super romantic. We at this point. I hadn't said I love you now. But we're like gazing the which others is and I was like he's going to do it. This is the perfect time to say. I love you said so. Do you want to go downstairs to the room for a nightcap and it was the most disappointing thing ever although the room was great and I love the room but I did not say I love you there. I should have. We'll get into the actual story of when I said that at a different episode so a few months go by six months it was real early and and I have this grand scheme that I'm GonNa ask Mary me. He had no idea. Are you kidding me. I knew within like I knew the next day after the Fairmont I was like that's where he's that's what he's he's GonNa do and you're GonNa do it on our anniversary. She was clueless So I- reenacted a bunch of dates that we had had in our first year we had a picnic The ferry building we love picnic. It was Christmas time and so there was ice skating in Union Square. Romantic time in the air. Yeah I love Union Square in Christmastime Times. The only time I liked union square but we went to union square to to go ice skating and took one look at people ice skating and was like nope I have like fragile knees your superclubs really clumsy and we snuck back up to that elevator. Joe Named we went back in the elevator. Win the -mergency exit stovepipe standby whatever stovepipes. Frosty the snowman. Whatever we trespassed again it was a good time and then we had dinner bar team which is now targeting manufacturer and then went back to the family And at this point Leon still still has. No I know my God. And we're wandering the FAIRMONT. There's a beautiful gingerbread house because it's Christmas and we walk out on the terrorists. Know hold on. You rushed me passage into Red House. I was like Oh my God. I want to look at other gingerbread houses. It's pretty we're like no. We have to go up to the roof right now. Like why gotta go. It is because I had set this up where our friend was waiting in a Bush in the freezing cold December weather San Francisco. She was there for a while there for so long. And do you want to say what happened. You asked me to marry you boom and you open it by being like like when you go today. It wasn't a year ago today. Whatever I should've asked you to marry me Arrow? Let me do this terrible this. I said that I should have said that I love you. Are there because it was super romantic and I decided that I was GonNa make up for it right now and then a god down on that and I was like at our friend. Our a friend was like a hiding in the Bush taking low-quality here's a worst quality pictures. They were like blurry cell phone pictures in the middle of the night and it was. You can't see anything not our that. Sorry be but there was like a really drunk couple that swore that they had pictures for us. Never send them to us. We're still waiting on those. If you're out there please we send us our wedding pictures. Come on Heather and then we went down to the room and we celebrated with all of our friends like arranged. A surprise party. Surprised that one. You actually actually didn't see come now. You didn't see coming when I booked our first our wedding night. After our wedding at the FAIRMONT. Because we can't afford that Shit without credit card right points. That part of the story does get sexy. Don't they feel so violated now. We love the Fairmont and Fairmont on San Francisco holds a special place in our heart because we have so many moments there and it's such a beautiful place this is not sponsored by the FAIRMONT. But if you're listening we're not turning away sponsorships remove both. Yeah it was. That was my favorite San Francisco Story. It was super romantic You're a big old softy. Real mushy and disgusting. And I love you. I know that we gave San Francisco a lot of love but we live in Oakland. But I promise that we have in Oakland episode coming up because Oakland is one of the best different than San Francisco Cisco but we'll do that on a future episode and I think to close off this episode. What have we did like a little mash? Up of all of our favorite San Francisco songs but like only like take a few seconds each so that we don't violate the copyright. What do you think a little mash? Up Son Fra In San Francisco. San Francisco's call Vic Johnson. MM SMOOTH SMOOTH PARVO

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Christmas Bird Count. Jan 3, 2020, Part 2

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Christmas Bird Count. Jan 3, 2020, Part 2

"This is science Friday. I'm Reflejo as is our custom. It's our annual bird-watching segment where we team up with autobahns annual Christmas Christmas Bird Count Tease of the avian kind bundle up with binoculars in hand to count up all the noisy nut hatches in the diving ducks it and maybe one of these scurrilous. It's everybody's favorite that really. That's just a preview because later in the hour we're GonNa play name that bird quiz. We're going to play a calling. We want you to make the call and call in with your guests for the bird that made that sound. But I we're GonNa talk about what you've seen this winter. Did you participate in a bird. Count or maybe. You're taking count from your kitchen window. Some listeners checked locked in on the science Friday. Vox Pop to tell us what they've seen my bird feeder typically attracts gold finches house finches toase. He's but suddenly a nut hatch has arrived and I'm very excited to have found a new member of the bird club in my backyard. I he was drinking coffee early on Christmas morning and heard this lovely birdsong in my backyard. It's a Carolina wren and it's not real common in Iowa's felt really lucky to here it. Let's don't you love that sound. So soothing. The birds out there on the feeder those folks were Debbie in citrus heights. California Lisa in Iowa what city and we want to hear about what birds you have spotted this winter migration may be a wayward wax wing or an l.. That's come back every year here or maybe you need help. Identifying burn just saw well. That's what we're going to be talking about and you can give us a call. Our number eight four four seven two four eight two five five life. Eight four four science talk or tweets at Sei Freia C. I F all right now. Let me introduce our bird guides for the hour. Karinna newsome is a burder and in graduate students studying bird conservation at Georgia Southern University in Statesboro. Georgia she joins us by skype. Welcome to science Friday. Thank you so much for for having me Nice to have you jeff. Lebaron is the National Audubon. Society's Christmas Bird Count Rector based out of Lemes Berg Massachusetts. Nice to have you back Jeff. It's great to be here. Thanks for having me on IRA. You're welcome let let's first talk to you jeff. The count is wrapping up this weekend. And your team will go back and look through the Dato can. Can you give us an idea of what trends you're seeing from the season. It's it's a bit early to sort of say the results of this year because at this point there's only just over four hundred counts that have been entered onto the online database As you said the council continued through this this Sunday the fifth so Compilers actually have until the end of February February to actually do their data entry Then there's a review process that goes on so it takes a while before we actually finalized the database for a given year I have have been sort of trying to keep track of if there's unusual stuff going being discovered this year and so far there hasn't been anything totally crazy The the most unusual bird that I sort of heard about this was out in. Actually it was. It was an account circle of. That's actually in the very north western corner of Oregon Oregon but it was actually in The Peninsula of Washington happens to be in that circles called a rustic bunting. And Murphy's law was that it disappeared the day before the count so wow quite actually make it into the database. That's why we have count we species for the for people who is a commercial out that something like that Carina. You've been burning in a couple of places in the south this season. What types of birds have you come across? Yes I've been between Georgia and Virginia primarily. Ah So for the season. I've been thinking a lot of the winter residence that I'm used to seeing so the white white throated. SPARROWS DARK JUNK GOES I. I surprisingly have not seen any Cedar Wax Wings yet. which really bums me out? I'm on the lookout for those. And then of course. My beloved Brown headed not hatch. His one of my favorite birds recently have been some of the birds and seeing down here I see a lot of not hatches in my backyard feeder. They are among my favorite because of the way they actually fly a little. MM swaggie fly in the the point downwards with their head and then they take the the seat and crack it open on the branch and actually the Wax Wings are still up here in New England. So maybe they'll give them their leader in the winter. Yeah all right. Let's go. We actually have some folks who are still out on the bird watch let's go to Roseanne in Watertown New York. Hi I This is Roseanne anjem and we're sitting in here right now looking at us. No We al.. The fourth one we've seen today you lucky people we are kind of Referred to as snowy owl central. This is not unusual for this area. We're in the town of lime which is right on the eastern Lake Ontario Carrio whereas Saint Lawrence River mouth is and Every winter we've been getting beautiful. Snowy owls males else females. As a matter of fact our land trust will be leading a snowy owl birding track on the eleven. Wow that's great that's excellent. You've seen four. I've yet to see my first. So right yeah yeah well thank you Rosanne. Isn't that what do you think of that Karina. I am jealous because I like. You have never actually seen a snowy owl in person. I always just missed them every time they show up anywhere that I've lived so I am very jealous. Jeff seen a few. I've seen a few but not this winter yet. I'm jealous because it sounds like there is The the movement that's happening southward. This season is more. You're out sort of through Ontario and coming down into the mid west and we have a almost non here in New England a sense a change in the flight path. You're saying it. It has to do with where they have a successful breeding season in the Arctic. And it sounds like this year. The lemming population was good in the central Canadian Arctic. And so that's where birds moving south from and I haven't heard yet how they're doing out further west sort of like in Montana and the other places where they sometimes come down. Maybe they will phone in. Let us know they're out there they might can hope I know Karina. I know before you started studying. Birds in Grad school you were a zookeeper go from zookeeper to getting a PhD in birds. Well I honestly have always lovebirds. It started all in Undergrad in college. And then as I was taking care of birds as Yuki the lots of animals but still birds my favorite. I was like no. I want to participate more in the research element of conservation because I was focused mostly on the care of birds. It's and educating the public about birds and I wanted to get my feet more rigorously in the research of birds And so once the opportunity presented itself. I am now being mentor. Soared by Elizabeth Hunter Southern for my master's degree currently But that was kind of jump. Birds were always my favorite but I. This is a desire to participate in research. Search really grew for me especially in the face of climate change which is an issue that many birds are going to be facing very heavily very soon to was there one bird that set you off on your bird career. Yes so when I took ornithology in college I had never gone birding before and the first bird that I learned about was a blue Jay which is common most places but I had never seen that I was like twenty one and so when my professor like put it up on the screen and said this is the Blue Jay. I had this huge reaction in class and people are like. You've never seen a blue Jay. I was like this bird has been around me all these years. I've never once seen it. I've heard it never seen it and that was kind kind of my gateway bird. Come to my backyard. They take over the feeder. 'cause it's right next to the first part I saw or heard this year was a blue Jay. So Yeah Yeah we have. Some we have some tweets coming in Sue tweets that a big block of sandhill cranes flew over my neighborhood in Grand Junction. Colorado on Saturday takes commission point. Oy A bunch of other people saying Oh becky tweets. I live in Atlantic Beach Florida this week. We saw a flock of Robbins in our front yard so so early even for us I think that has to do with the fact that we had a really harsh and cold late November her and in in recent years the robins have stayed more northward when it's been relatively mild in the falls but I think this year they got pushed south. I know we don't have anywhere near as many Robbins up here. In New England England this so far this winter be we have in the last several years. Let's go to Augusta Georgia where Elizabeth is telling us about her birds Elizabeth. Hi I I I love your show I try to catch it every week. I feel like I know you personally. Have I've listened to you for so long. So the bird count we My team went out on the twenty first of December and it was very cold that day in Augusta which is unusual and and we saw two flocks of Who did merck dancers and We were walking alongside the Savannah River which is border between Georgia and South Carolina and I do that every day and I have not. I've only once wants before seeing hooded Merck answers here so we had sixteen in one of the flocks and twenty in the other and they were mostly sleep females but Probably three to four males and all the rest emails in the in the two groups. No thanks very exciting me. I don't even know what Hood Merg answer is. And you've seen dozens of them Corinna. You're close to her geographically speaking. Yeah I so. I haven't seen any brands his yet. So far this season. I've seen them actually in Ohio. I've seen them in Nashville. I used to live in Nashville. Have Not yet seen them this season but I did see them last year or so. I have expecting hopefully to see some organzers when I go on the Atlanta Christmas bird. Count tomorrow when this they look like so I'll notes so they have love like like a thin beak And they're they have a crest a black crust that goes over the kind of top and back back of their head and on either side. It's whites from a distance. They can be kind of confused with a buffalo head because that white patch is placed in a similar location but they are larger than then buffalo heads and have the typical organizer bill shape to them. I'll have to the other thing. That's cool about them. As their sort of their there transformers they can actually very much change the shape of their crest and it can raise it up in a great big football helmet kind of thing with this huge whiteside or they can slim it back down so it's almost just like a white stripe. There's a lot of fun to watch him. Let's I'll have to go look for him. The only more gansters Avenue Random Candy store down the block from me. So we're GonNa take a break doc. come up with lots filled up our. Oh that's what people WanNa talk about what they've seen also tweet us at Scifi eight four four seven two four eight two five five or happy to take tweets. We're talking with a Korean NEWSOM and Jeff Lebaron ahead of National Audubon. Society's Christmas Bird Count Phone number again. Eight four four seven two four eight two five five. Oh people are seeing all kinds of things hawks in hummingbirds and stuff. We'll talk about it after the break. Stay with us. This is science Friday reflate. Oh we're talking. Miss our about birding this winter season and what you've all seen we're talking with a Carina newsom burder and graduate students studying bird conservation at Georgia Southern Southern University Jeff Lord Byron who is head of the National Audubon Society's Christmas Bird Count and that's in Williamsburg Massachusetts okay. How about a little fun now quiz? His of your bird call I Q. It's our name that bird quiz. I'm GONNA play Birdsong. That's one of Koreans favorites. And if you think you know what type bird makes the song then you make the call by making the call. Our number is eight. Four four seven two four eight two five eight four four psych talk and and We're here comes our first clue. I just want to sit and listen all right to our listeners. Do you know what that bird was. Eight four seven two four eight two five five four you can. You can tweet us at Saif fry. I was kind of kind of cool. Jeff let's talk about some of the the big birding news this year. There was the study that came out in science recently. That was very shocking. It showed that in the last fifty years North American birds have been on the decline by thirty percent. Yes It's it was a very interesting study. It was Looking mostly at birds during migration by It's also very interesting to note that When I was looking at Christmas bird count the numbers from last season for the one hundred nineteenth count The the even though the effort was actually a record amount of effort and a lot of much higher area of covered coverage than we've had in past years the number of birds that were tallied was actually the second lowest that for the thirty two years. I've been in charge of Christmas count So it's a little bit I i. It's early to say what's causing that. But what he did when I mentioned. Is that the the Christmas bird. Count is one of the most important tools that we have to sort of understand how how birds are doing across trends. The trends are doing across the continent as well as where their ranges are. Shifting is the climate is changing. So it's a really. It's not only refunding traditional. But it's a IT'S A. It's a critically important data set for ornithological researchers but so survey evidence about climate. Change is what you're saying. Yes and it's actually document. We were actually Audubon was able to do a study and look at how birds have shifted their ranges the over the last Sixty years during during the early winter period of the Christmas bird count as the Early winter temperatures have been moderating and and two to three hundred of these species have moved as much as two or three hundred two hundred miles northward northward. During that time I heard you gasp. Just a bitter when you heard I When I heard the that paper came out and I was reading it I noticed that the sparrows the American sparrows where some among the most heavily declined species in North America And the species that I study at school is a seaside sparrow and so obviously I am very sparrow conscious But it is very alarming and it was interesting because for the first time I had people in in my life like in my family who never really think about birds and oftentimes make fun of me for thinking so much about birds and they were asking me like is true. Like what does this mean. What's going on and so I am? Grateful that came out because it brought a lot of people's attention to the forefront for bird conservation people who I have known to never ever care much about birds so it is shocking but it has also brought a lot of good attention and the other interesting thing is autobahns. Done recently is in October. We released Lee survival by degrees study. which actually was a nice compliment to to the The earlier paper with the decline of of birds during migration of the total number of birds and with the survival by degrees website allows you to do is actually type in Zip code or a state and actually shows you The birds and they're they're they're likely trans over over the next twenty to seventy years And things that you can do about it so it's actually very very interesting interactive a lot and gives you tools to actually think about what to do to help help the birds. Lots of people Sharing their bird experiences on the phone. Let's go to Santa Rosa Janet. Hi Welcome Science Friday. Hey I'm one of the things I've noticed since The tubs fire in October. Two thousand seventeen I live in an area lost my home in the following is Ah Increase in diversity of BIRDS OF PREY For instance my daughter and I both notice that we're seeing white tailed kite in our area. Which I've never I've seen in Cinema County but I've never been in our particular area we live in the hills kills Outside of Santa Rosa And I've also seen some other birds of prey that I haven't seen generally smaller I pray Whereas before we've seen A lot of that tail hawks primarily interesting interesting. Thanks for sharing with that Jeff what do you say about that. Is that a normal recovery. I think it's part of the recovery. What happened of course the you know? The the the the the habitats in those areas are radically altered by the fires. And what happens is it opens things up in the larger prey items would probably either be killed or move out and the smaller prey items would become more available and visible and that's quite likely why the white tailed kites there one thing that's also really interesting with the Christmas bird counts as going when many of these areas with big fires for the last several years and also the hurricanes and things in the Caribbean are very well covered by Christmas bird. Count circles so that actually by continuing to do the Christmas bird counts. We're actually very well able to track the recovery of the of sort of follow the ups and downs and and recovery of these areas after these major ecological events. It's terrific. Let's go down to some answers to our quiz. We we had a bird a bird sound. We wanted you to identify. Let me played again. Okay we have a few folks on the line Mike. Hi Welcome to the Science Friday. Guess yes I do go for it. I would okay I would say a red wing BLACKBIRD colored blackbird. No sorry about that we have Let's see if we have another guest. It's go let's go to Allan Allan. Hello Hello Aw yeah but I'm not calling me I'm actually calling from Illinois but Visiting family but I it sounds like a bobbling. ooh wrong guests. Sorry about that. Let's let's go to Deborah. Hi Deborah. Hello that would be. I would thrash TATA little sound. Yeah we we can't afford it just beautiful. What did you do you see them around? I never see them but I have Fifteen minutes of them re recording of one that I discovered this summer at Brown deer park Greenville walkie they're very shy. I but I have to say I cheat I. I play a youtube video of the song just to track them. I think that's cheating but I really would like to see up close. So maybe you'll get the chance Carina Rita. That's one of your favorites right it is. They are oftentimes called the flowers of the forest and hearing them. Especially when you're in the context of the west of trees that that call that as long as echoing in the trees and it's absolutely magical we have some tweets coming and Jamie tweets my favorite from a local Christmas bird. Count was an atwater prairie chicken and at home. I've got her rufus hummingbird who has taken up residence this winter. I'm located in full sheer Texas west of Houston excellent. Wow Natasha tweets. I live in Santa Cruz. I've seen a peregrine falcon perched above the ocean three times in as many weeks hunting ducks I I've watched I've watched Perkin falcons come onto golf courses where they had fish stock the lake with fishing coming from the ocean. Yeah steel efficient. And then golf courses and Evan tweets got my very first pair of barred owls that pronounce that right and yes and one evening in and one evening I did. They come in pairs usually oftentimes they do. An bartels are the ones that have the call. It's like who cooks for you. Who Cooks for you all? Can you do that orth. Mergers can do it remarkably well though also says nocturnal birds need more love. Well I I heard an owl. Tell my my next door neighbor. Bert story is ahead. A Iowa call central casting owl across the street from me many nights out of here going the who you know typical like that and one morning my neighbor neighbor came running up to me saying gotta be careful. I was just out walking my dog in the backyard and I raced shed a small dog. I raced bird to my dog. Doc I one and I thought it was the owl. It probably was a great horned owl. Wow Doc how big a big animal will great horned take well a lot of what they take their actually one of the few avian predators that will take skunks But they will take things certainly the size of a house cat or A small dog a- As we'll red tail Hawk for that matter so Great Horns sort of a nocturnal equivalent of the daytime. Red Tailed Hawks. In terms of their predatory niche and with the kind of things that they take their one of the most powerful birds in the world actually go to KC in Marietta California Akc what me to speak to you. Thank you I was calling about hummingbirds. this past year in two thousand nineteen. I put quite a bunch of humming bird feeders outside my house while I love watching them. I really can't tell species apart. I was wondering if any of your guests had Would be able to help me identify the species southern California coming okay. One of my favorite topics hummingbirds I had just I did not see many of them. This year in the northeast. So can we help her out to identify in southern California. That probably the two most common species of the Allen's Hummingbird and and also Anna's Hummingbird and the Anna's actually has a sort of a twitter song. It's one of the few hummingbirds that actually sings vocally And it it they they have. The males have a really deep red gorgeous but also read a over there crown whereas the Allen's Hummingbird is is sort of rusty orange green with a green central Part of its back and it's a little bit sort of chunkier but those would be the two most common types of hummingbirds in southern in California and they're both pretty much resident So you would have them year round. Oh I'm so Jones community around the only hummingbirds dic- around around here in southern Georgia are the groups humming birds. I've actually not seen any other species of humming birds so it sounds like I need to go to southern California as soon as possible and that actually really having the Ruby throats in coastal mid Atlantic is very new They that used basically all ruby throated hummingbirds used to go down to the the the Caribbean and Central America for the winter but they have started wintering and increasing numbers as far north as Cape Hatteras. So having them there in the winter is a relatively new thing another another climate change Carino. You also started a study looking at not hatches on your campus so the matches patches that we're focusing on during this project the project is called safe that hatches We're focusing on the Brown headed nut hatch which is a species. It is really only found in the southeastern United States. It's but it is one that is found pretty properly on our campus That's the for those of you. Listening to bird played at the beginning. I don't know if that was going to be a question later. I hope not but they have a very very distinct call among that hatches among birds in general But they are climate endangered which the national audubon society kind of designated ignited meaning that a certain percentage of their of their usable habitat will disappear in a certain amount of time for them. They're going to lose about ninety five percent of their the habitat by twenty eight. And that's because the temperature rises. They can't tolerate very hot temperatures so on our campus. You wanted to know. Essentially what they're reading reading preferences where when it comes to temperature so we put a bunch of nut hats nestboxes made by Atlanta audubon around campus. And they are all equipped with a temperature. Sure data logger so it constantly records the temperature. And we're GONNA see how they choose. which ones they select and see? If there's a pattern two temperature thresholds and then when we find out okay this kind of temperature on our campus we can kind of put more nestboxes in regions with that temperature and make our campus more friendly for them cool. That's really need thanks. I'm Ira Plato this science Friday from WNYC studios talking about the Christmas Bird Count and we have Someone out in the field gail in Fish Creek Wisconsin. Hi welcome what are you seeing out there. I haven't had your show on and and I was going to call and say I saw Bald Eagle over by my my house the other morning and here I'm driving and I see one zeroing in and a Bald Eagle just landed in Vigo tree down in the harbor for an e firm life by my Town next to me. I live who is down by the harbor. Wow what a signing okay. You stop to make the call right away. So how often have you seen this bald. Eagle is was it the first time you've you said it's the second time you've seen it. Yeah I felt. He was Heart in a tree across my property the other morning warning and Here he is again so they're they're flying and their roosting taking in the scenery. I guess they're they're looking for the rabbit. Lucky you thanks for calling gail in happy Sightings unusual jeff the bombing Eh. It's it's always wonderful to see bald. Eagles it's Body goes one of the most successful conservation stories that there is for for an apology these days. They're they've they've really completely re taken over the lower forty-eight They were almost completely gone through about the early nineteen seventies and and They've recovered remarkably so it's it's a wonderful thing. A friend of mine is an ornithologist from Brazil. And he was he was. He's from here in in western Massachusetts and when he left thirty years ago. It was a red-letter day when you saw a Bald Eagle and last time he came up here to visit and we saw three or four and you have to understand. This was so unusual before I left interests really great. We have a tweet from Nancy's best bird of our area Christmas bird count puffing flying over San Francisco Bay now. There was news about a puff in this weekdays. The first time they've seen a puppy news a twig to scratch itself. I I saw that. That bird used the tool. That's great I'm Barbara tweets. We see Bald Eagles all winter in Iowa city along the river there can be dozens of them when it gets really cold so cool to see them so close up. Well then we'll a bald eagle. Let you get close up to week. Jeff sometimes they will. They're you know they're these days. They're not ought persecuted and they're mostly interested in in. You know they eat a lot of fish in in carrying and stuff like that They are I mean. It's it's horrible to say for a national symbol. But they're sort of trash birds because they do like Especially if you go to Alaska you can see one hundred Bald Eagles in the dump their recyclers. Yes they are they they help keep they got somebody AF somebody in recycling waste. That'd be piled up and we get rid of it we're gonNA take a break and after the break where we're taking your calls and looking for bidders in the Great Lakes area so if you're out there already had somebody calling you from watertown New York right on the edge of Lake Ontario. WHO WANNA here? What about what you've seen in the Great Lakes give us a call? Eight four four seven two four eight two five five eight four four site talk or you can tweet us at Sei fry so stay with. This will be back more with a Korean newsom. Jeff Lebaron after the break. Don't go away this is science Friday. I'm IRA PLATO. A brief program note on our website this week. What happens when trained? Scientists make it their mission to make bio technology more accessible our digital intern Andrea Corona visited an open access biotech space cold Gen space to explore their projects. And you can find out more at science Friday dot com slash community not lamps. We're talking this hour about birding this winter season and what y'all have seen out there are bird guides this hour carina newsom of Georgia Southern University. City Jeff Lebaron head of the National Audubon Society. Christmas bird count and I want to bring on another burger and you know he's a real bird because his ringtone sounds like this Jeff Williamson is a bird from Chicago and runs third. Coast Coast Birding Jeff. What was that that was barred? Aunt Strike Bird from Central America and most of northern South America rather widespread Kind burden the the lower elevations down there and you've been burning in the Great Lakes area this this season If you're in any of the Great Lakes states we want to hear about what you have seen to give us a call. Eight four four seven two four eight two who five five eight four four Site Talk Tell us what What is interesting you? This is burning season. Jeff Williams. Yeah sure the I think one of the more interesting aspects of this season is it's continuing this trend where we're getting during the wintertime. More birds that typically clear out of town or or in only small numbers so in under you're talking about the Christmas bird counts earlier are in the season mid-december. I was out here doing account within the city of Chicago and saw an eastern Phoebe kind of flycatcher. They're not usually around here and hermit thrush is though they do occur here reasonably regularly during the winter. Not really in any kind of numbers and and the party that I I was with head three of them. During during our day of burning which was kind of unusual we already have people from the Great Lakes calling in. Let's go to Paul all in traverse city Michigan. Hi Paul this is Paul Hi there go ahead. I live on a small linen lake about a five eight hundred Acre Lake. And there's an island across from where I'm at and the lake froze in November and then we had a warm spell and partially but a couple of weeks ago and looking out the window and I see an eagle circling around the islands. And then I soon see another eagle both the adults. Now that I'm looking and there's two juveniles you know full grown not Not The right coloration. So they were the probably with the parents and along the edge of the ice. You know there was open water and there were some migratory ducks sitting in a water. Well the adults were swooping down trying to catch them and to teach their juveniles and how to hunt those because there are areas around Lake Michigan. Why that where there is open water? What was amusing? It was the ducks or diving ducks. So when they sense ego coming they dove under the water so my wife and I watched him for about twenty minutes doing that breath now duck stuck watching number. That's a great story Paul. Thanks for sharing that Jeff the around Chicago. You see that happening we have. I think the area near here that we go to to observe Bald Eagles in numbers are along along the rivers the Illinois River flowing over to the Mississippi River. And it's still pretty warm right now. When when when temperatures get colder in the rivers you start to freeze up you get all sorts of eagles congregating around anywhere? There's a damn so the dams keep the open. The water opened near the dam. The chew up the fish and the eagles come down and and feast on the fish that the the dams have wreck Panitan. Jeff Lebaron has started. I'm sorry I got to Jeff's here. Swimming keep everybody seed. Have Jeff Lebron you have an update from birth count in the mid west of on the Great Lakes what it has been spotted there I do know that it's it was it's been relatively open From you know Jeff was saying you know the there've been more waterfowl in in some lingering things like the phoebe that you guys found One thing I wanted to mention about the Bald Eagles is the. I've watched them hunting. What we call puddle ducks which don't normally die? Things like mallards and black ducks but when the eagles trying to get him they can learn how to dive pretty quickly. The Dutch can't get out of the way from the Eagles but Yeah it's it's going to be very interesting year. I think this year to to see what happens. Overall being picture with the Christmas bird counts and there is more of this sort of general shift of a lot of the birds. That don't I have to go or aren't program to go to to Latin America or the Caribbean That just linger only as far south as they have to let you know where there's less snow cover less frozen rosewater. I wonder if that's the origin of the word. Duck duck down. You know duck going underwater. Something diving stay interesting. Somebody interesting thing is madeleine in Manatee Michigan. Hi Madeleine Hi there I wanted to comment that two weeks ago. I saw one of the Arctic owls. Close down here in the harbor where. The Ministy River has outlet into Lake Michigan. Also when I lived downstate before we retired in a suburb of Detroit near not too far from Lake. St Clair Lake Erie and Lake. Huron we had Graca lls in those Brown headed cowherds. which I hate way they would come? I had put mothballs fall. Out to discourage the rodents they would come and pick up those mothballs and they pick up a mothball and they would scrub under their arms like they were going. Oh to put the order in on or something. And then they'd wipe all over their body with that Mothball evidently either to smell mel. Good or to discourage parasites. I don't know I suspect letter. But that's pretty bizarre. Well thank you thank you madeline it. We'll have to right that up someplace simply well have you ever heard. Event Jefferson or Jeff. Lebaron Jeff Lebaron. Let me ask you I I I have not heard of that. I certainly birds do Do I mean they. They're they're meticulous about maintaining their plumage And one of the things they need need to do to do that is to keep control or get rid of the the the parasites that in other Lice and things that are in there. Then do you get on the feathers so this would be something. That would certainly do that. But I think it's amazing that they would learn or somehow figure out that whatever that funny round white thing is is actually going to do that. That for them. Corinna you study birds. You must be picking great interest in this story I am. I always find just like seeing the ways that Birdseye the US anthropogenic human made objects and that is just so bizarre to me because of course birds they use dust for example to keep down the parasite load they'll regularly take dust baths which you can see often sometimes but a mothball i. I actually do want her to record that on her phone if you wouldn't mind the listening because someone does need to write that up well we'll have a record here forever of her for seeing what's going on there Jefferson One of the big stories in Chicago I understand was about rose and Monte who were those birthright so this is past summer we had to piping plovers nest on the busiest beach in the city of Chicago. The Piping Clever of the Great Lakes population of Piping plovers uses endanger. There's only about seventy five pairs of these birds. And and these two. They tried to nest up in Waukegan with just further north north of Chicago on Lake Michigan. And this past summer came down and try it again on on the week on the Chicago beach and it was quite quite a quite a saga I have to hand it to rose. She laid eight eggs over the course of the summer. Two different clutches the I got flooded out the Illinois Department of Natural Resources came in and and pulled the nests right before we had a big blow of wind from the North that that flooded the beach and fled the nest. Unfortunately those eggs were not able to hatch in captivity but but rose went went again and late for more eggs three of those hatched and two of the birds and then hatched fledged and headed. South was pretty exciting. It's interesting about this flooding because Corinne I understand that you study sparrows. Who are having issues with nests nests being flooded are we seeing climate change flooding more nests? Well there has not necessarily been documented for the species that I'm studying an increase increase. Ns flooding but we do know is that there is an increased in that in the height of high tide which is precisely what floods seaside sprout nests and they are behaviorally adapted to having a nest putting Kerr occurred during their breeding season. And when that happens what they do is they will just build another nest immediately and they'll nest higher off the ground as as a result so they are adapted to be able to do that but the strange thing is that when they nest higher They are more vulnerable more visible to predators. So they're kind of stuck between a rock rock and a hard place when it comes to dealing with flooding especially in the face of sea level rise and there's actually a closely related species called Saltmarsh Sparrow which which is this greatly at risk from if basically they think if if sea level or Wednesday level rises two inches. The that species won't be able to nest Successfully so so that is pretty creepy. Friend of mine says there are two inches away from extinction. Right is question. Let's go to some better or more other other news. Let's go to mount to or Arab Ohio. Sarah Welcome to science Friday high. I had Do Al's like I haven't had my dog with like seventy six pounds and I put him up and I went back out. Turn the light off on my shed and I had to you out some cheap me I'm assuming they're great. Horned owl lifeblood in to try to search it. And I've seen the we'll do that with dolls or cats but on this scary like they were doing. And I couldn't find anything where they like. Shakiness Jeff Williamson Williamson. I don't know thanks for that chip. Lebaron what do you think. Is that a typical thing. Well it depends depends what Sorry what time of year if if the if it great heart. Owls are one of the most aggressive birds that they are that there is around their nest And if if this was Actually nests there were here in New England. They're actually putting in setting up right now for the season so if this was like in late winter or even early spring bring in if they're they're also very great horned owls are very well adapted to sort of urban environment so If there was a nest around that might have been what what was going on They might have flown at because of the because there was a nest nearby. I'm IRA player the science Friday from WNYC studios a great number of tweets is coming in. Let me just go to a few of them. Well here's an email. We watched the Great Blue Heron in our Mile Mountain area. Three thousand feet near Yosemite Hunt gophers in our our yard. We watched and photograph him. Catching and swallowing a gopher very cool. Yeah have you see now. Yes gophers. Well there's a video that kind of started going viral on facebook and twitter of a great horned or excuse me a great blue heron in someone's front yard eating a gopher but a rental Aweso looking after that gopher so then the reds hot came in and fought it you know for the for the gopher but but that was the first time I've ever seen that and that was a few weeks ago online but apparently they're walk into people's yards looking for the mammals. That's crazy here. Kristie tweets loving today. Show the the past two seasons. We've had a single male piloted Woodpecker who visits are suet feeder. Well guess what this year he met a lady. We aren't crossing our fingers for baby. Maybe woodpeckers spring I suspect it will happen. I hope so we could bring love to birds that would be science Friday's mission. Let's see if we have a lot more people calling in let's go to caroline in Hudson Ohio Hi Caroline. Hi Hi there. I'm the following a The kind of Justice East League Eagles on facebook. We've been following. A pair of eagles have been nesting on the Chagrin River. Just East of Cleveland. And they've had it successful hatch of eaglets two years ago last year they they laid eggs and they had some competition with some female eagle. Come in and I think they left the nest too long the X.. got called but we didn't see them hatch. Oh there you go. They seem to. They didn't see your cats. Let's let's go to Let's go to Davenport Iowa. Hi Is it Leeann yes it is. I go ahead I was watching doing doing my Cornell Feeder Watch on a Sunday and I saw a white cardinal at my logistic cards you it was his thicker. Are Al Bino Yeah. That's really. That's wonderful yeah did he. Did he come back. It's come back several times. Yes we're all in awe when you get off we did. We took pictures. It doesn't have a mess. graboy were there to white ones Komo TV and there was only one. There's only one I believe that is. That's great that's wonderful. How how rare is that Jeff? Jeff Jeff for birds cardinals and Robbins and and some of the more widespread spread in abundant. It's very unusual. Don't get me wrong but For for birds there are a lot of them and they're sort of around humans. It's it's one of the there among the species. She's the where we do. See a partial. You know our logistic birds. Quite you know with some frequency but to have the whole bird white. That's really Cool School Jeff Williamson last question any favorite sightings for are you around Chicago this season. Oh around the I think the the earlier in the season the most exciting things that happened three Chicago. I'll go where we had a king eider come by and spend a few days in the city now and then in ancient Murrelet. Oh just kind of in the family in the northern version of penguins while small. That's great you know. I wish I knew any of these birds. It's like I'm watching Star Trek and we've gone to another other civilization. I guess I'll have to get my bird book. I want to thank you all for taking time to be with us today. Jeff Williamson burder from Chicago Kogo Who runs the third coast birding Carina newsom graduate students studying buried conservation at Georgia Southern University in Statesboro Georgia? Jeff Lebaron National Audubon Society Christmas Bird Count Director based out of Laingsburg Massachusetts. And you can see photos of this year's Audubon Christmas bird count and bird. Listeners have spotted stuff up there all. Those pictures are up on our website science dot com slash bird count. Thank you all and happy New Year to all of you. You're welcome and happy new year. Welcome thank you very much. You're welcome and also WANNA remind our listeners. We have a new question. We're asking you on science Friday. Vox Pop we want to ask about political polling. We're going to be doing a show. Show him political polling. And WanNa know. Have you been contacted by a political poster pollster if so how was it text landline email. 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