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The Walking Dead Season 9 Ep 3 Recap: No Exceptions
Uh-huh. Got Cheonan busy, so forgive my people. The people wanna know was the might still lawn safe is the my still on podcast Walking Dead recap season. Non episode three. In. Final warning probably not the fine Warner but its final warning was episode. I felt this was was a little bit better think the big things around. This was like who was killing all these people like who killed Justin. Right. And and then, of course, Araca snatched up, and then was somebody else killed or was it. I think it was just really about them trying to figure out who killed Justin, right? Okay. Just it was the second one wasn't one before him. I don't know taking before Justin. I believe so came remember because it was like a crew of them that it was trying to kill off. Right. But then again remembered the savior. Oh, yeah. The savior the groups that were supposedly bringing the ethanol right member they ban. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right. That's right. They haven't said that that was these guys are to be assume. So they were the ones that came into that village in right in like you'll like they're close. Yeah. Did you guys think Darryl did? No, I didn't. It was a I think that. But when the episode started rolling though, so after started rolling. Because like like, I said it was a way that the way his reactions reaction, but then Okla head. Okla head. They was gonna say the same thing. But it don't make no sense. It doesn't make sense for to be that group either. You know what I'm saying? I don't understand why he would've reacted that way. Because I don't think he was that pleasant with them either. You know what I'm saying? So she's killing them, right? Yes. He would he have been that cool with right because I think the only one that was cool oceanside was was Aaron's boyfriend. I can't think of his name remember oceanside Aaron went to oceanside. So aaron. Okay. Okay. And so I got a fixed up. Okay. Enid meaning heated Enid kill the old lady. Right. Right. Right. Boyfriend was dead by that point. Okay. Okay. Gonna miss though. So Erin was cool with him. But that was it. So I I don't know why. And Tara Tara. She did sure. Sure. Yeah. That's a good point. Who may think about it? They had that once he also just disappeared the one who played in strategy. Strata compton? Yeah. He's gonna come back. Oh, wait a minute. You know? It's been a year. Yeah. The helicopter people bet you money you think so because he's not dead because they would have killed him. And they would have made it clear that he was dead. And if the season's ending next next year. Yeah, they have to bring him back. Some big come back. He's coming back because his kids. Character was too big. Kind of calming. Yeah. So he's not gonna just van like really w uses care at the like that was a big part. He was like a scout. He was big in Alexandria in Alexandria. No. I don't think he's dead. I don't think he's dead. Like if you think about it, no semi major characters ever disadvantaged. Right. They always come back at some. Yeah. Because they did the same thing Morgan disappear, right? Because. Because he kind of the way he disappeared. Was it? We knew he was Lee. We knew we weren't gonna see him for a while. It was it was kinda presented in a way. When we do. We're not going to be seeing him for a while other dude. I don't I don't think they ever present him that way. Well, just like stopped showing what they did the same thing with Darryl's, brother. True. Okay. Yeah. They always do that. Nate didn't. They didn't just make him like he he banished. But it always seemed like there was another story too. Because if you remember that episode it was like tear was looking for him. And he was there for a minute. And and then she went around the corner, and buddy was gone, right? And he was like wasn't like fighting, but they never found his body. So I don't I don't think they would just be like, oh, well, you know, he's on whatever he's Betty's the helicopter people. I bet you money. Probably does anybody understand this whole hell will Yamei may. Because y'all read them. Oh, okay. So there's anybody understand did. I miss them. Nah. I saw lost. It's lost. I never saw loss. Too late now. What the hell never never got into this show. I okay, I looked up to. But season two or three I missed like two, and I was really. I like that. I never under. I don't know. 'cause when did this come out, which loss loss loss? Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't into that. Like, ron. That's okay. Okay. Well, what are watching now? So is Lowe's like an actual like 'cause I always thought that it was like a reality show us. Man, TV Susan. Yes, that's a really good. He's one of my favorite shows me to amaze top great show a couple couple of things. I miss because Kim and the crew of there's always talk about these about TV shows all the time, and I wanna say I talk about loss than what twenty four hours or something twenty four. Never watched twenty four the biggest. Vision. I never watched. I never got him to this fucking. I never got just I don't know, man. I just never I don't know what you're saying on athletes. I wanna say because I watch these past summer verse time on Netflix, this kind of go back. Okay. So the helicopter stuff. So I'm not lost. By like, this whole AB thing anybody. So it does anybody know so alphabets. So I think because when she pops in the forehead the second second, she did it. I was like and she said, oh, I could've sworn you were an a right. Don't know. She's acting this when you were a B, and yeah, she's sworn your house like. Now's like what does that mean? I'm thinking AB any I was thinking leader subordinate. Now, the O alpha beta so she thought that he was going to be like a subordinate, nobody. But since he stood up. It was just like, no, we're not doing this. Like, oh, you must be an atlas stupid which was stupid where he said. Why would you tell it because I think he thought that they had something that was stupid? You know? I think he. Yeah. Yeah. I think he thought they were released. I know. Yeah. Right, right. As he was saying like, I do I knew. Head over to me. Have you thought she saw that black dick and was just like, I'm not losing this. Theory on. Why would she need a beta in not an alpha? So okay, I only I only figure this out because if you watched the preview for the next the next episode, I don't know if y'all watched it, but there's a scene where she has him tied up, and she's seeking that zombie on them. Same exact shit. She did to Neagh in as she says in the episode that she was doing it for supplies. I think this time she wants to get to wherever the helicopter people are because maybe it safer there. Okay. But she needs an A because he's the guy on the phone says the walkie says you need a for us to take you. So now, she realized that she has an A. So she's going to sacrifice him to these helicopter folks to get to where they are. They only had. We'll record you think they're just the reason why they won't as is that they're building up a community of strong leaders. I don't know. That's what I possibly. That's a Naomi's theory. She thinks that that's how they're going to get rid of Rick. He's going to sacrifice himself to go. Yeah. Helicopter, nothing. I think that'd be Wexford. I think I think we discussed that before you mentioned it. It wasn't an episode that I wasn't on. Thank you mentioned that, you know, you think the helicopters going to plan to this whole situation. I think that's how it could play into it that he sacrificed like that. I know man. My sacrifice himself to to the helicopter people. And then maybe Jackson while they're in the air and he pulls a Travis or something. But either way. Yeah, he can't just leave to me. And I realize that this is like we got to war up souls loaf. Oh. This. This was I mean. Three said he was going to nine two eight visit to more to more who are that. Promote. Really? Midseason, but that's not that's not even miss these. Eight. Wow. That's great. Eight they said last episodes so tonight, and then they're going a full more than half a season left with no rig. We're maybe just them reacting to whatever happens to rig. I can't for a whole fucking damn near three cores of rise. And. You watch it. How do y'all think they made you? They might use arrays. Anybody thought about that? No. I didn't. Saying we're gonna be gone, but he's not gonna come back. Only because he asked off or only because he has to be off the show, which has to be all he added ask understand the acts to be off. But I mean, we really. Say more like a Glenn think going way remember. Yeah. And then he was gone Glenn actually died. So come back in and die later. Glenis public this. Yeah. You right. Onto something to LARs, man. It was very. Yeah. But we don't have an actor come forward and say we did Lawrence to set. More said he wasn't going to be on. Nobody Lawrence Lawrence off the show that don't matter. They could be doing this drumming up shit to make people come back and watch because they using newer ship. I'd never even thought about that. And that's a good aspect. You heard it here, folks. I media. Fucking code right with a conspiracy. Does make a lot of fucking sense because everybody knows how the fuck to continue show rig right now. Right. Which is why? Season. Right. I thought they only have one more season. A half without Rick that doesn't make any slip out. Rick and Maggie. Well, we don't know when. Okay. Done after the season. But we don't know at one at what? So a full season without Rick and Maggie next year. I'm not seeing that I'm saying that at some point. He may come back before the show ends, right? Oh, yeah. I can see him come about like on the final two episodes or something like that. That's that's what I'm thinking. But it's gonna piss me the fuck off and doesn't die. Like if. I don't see Rick die. Right. I'm fucking pissed life for him to die these next to participate next to dissolve. That's just whack. Just feel when when well you didn't see it. But how did you guys feel when you saw that? They were like the final two Rick. Like seeing it on the screen. Yeah. But that's that's what I started calling calling a bluff it do. What I really like two more episodes. Rick for real. Well, the thing that confused me was because I always thought it was going to be it was he was gonna fall nine episode lead to all of them put that on the screen like episodes. I was confused because they didn't. I thought they said, nah, not in fact, is it the first time they've done this. We said that we have to. Yes. I think in the beginning. It was like watch Rix, final episodes. But now is like they specific they say which episode he's going to die. So they're trying to build up the viewership for that particular de smart soda. It was cool. But we only have two episodes left. I don't really want that to be light one. The last things that I remember him. Remember about rake? Oh, his all lies matter ass bullshit. I don't typical typical ass cop. Addidas? That'd be that'd be a cool episode to have with him light doing his hip relationship with brain displays the openness seeing them because he was real like, you know, would a walk in this episode remembers walking around playing with the baby. And yeah, haven't picked they always do that in some and all this other stuff like he was real like emotional. And that's going to and that's going to end this on a really fucked up note because Michelle is going to be pregnant, and then Rick is dead. And the Michelle is gonna be all over emotional. Yeah. Yeah. I just can't see about the the wood the piece of wood. He had up there that car. I thought that was it was it was I didn't like the whole thing with him on the show. I hate it. For every fucking time. I want the house to blow up every time. Awful. It's awkward and gross. Deserve. You know, they don't they don't do. Apparently, he may have leaked house gonna go. I didn't. Didn't I didn't. I didn't even wanna read my cell. He in a goodbye letter to the fans so as out there for those of you that. He's home, bro. Like, I don't think. He's I think he's gone. I think if anything like the only way he'll come back is the last two episodes of that's what I'm saying. I don't think it's like, but again, like I think I don't think on this last the last one, I don't think that'd be the last time we seem. Yeah. I agree actually think about it. He's so we can see. What's your name? Mci walking. Yeah. Yeah. So she'll give some black day. Because Grimes and the most. And let's let's think about this too. Oh blocker. Let's go back to like how how often even started like how they thought Rick was dead in the hospital came back. Right. But we didn't think he was dead. I know we didn't. You know, we wasn't tricked saying they can kind of play on that yet. No, not that. I don't do it. I'm saying I never thought about this. But I think he's on he's on to something. They're not gonna kill recognise too. Because nothing has happened. This whole let let me just wanna make clear so your theories that he's not going to die. He's going to go off when then when they end Walking Dead period season ten he'll just pop back up in the last episode or something like this big. Well, go ahead. I'm so fast off at some point. We already know they have we we have to know what this helicopter situation is all about, and we have to see this place that they're going to if rig is there. I mean, he has to come back at some point. What's going to happen is he's going to be taken away. They're going to spend the rest of the season trying to figure out where he was season will end with them figuring out where the helicopter places next season will pick up with them trying to invade the helicopter place all this drama. And then at some point probably the mid season. They'll find. Ricks ass somewhere in a corner poly, but naked like shaking, where's my baby? Then the rest of the season's going to be ring, you know, reconnecting with the grooves. Just imagine what did do to the fanbase. Piss people off, but but some people it may night like, oh my God rigs back, but they're not gonna last until Rick comes back. Rick just leave on a helicopter majority. This gonna lead. You think they need to kind of bring him back fairly sooner. If they I don't think they should have ever done what they're doing. I don't either. Because if they have been making it seem like Rick is going to die. So if Rick does not die in next two episodes. He just leaves on a helicopter who she that? The audience is going to finally say fuck this show. I'm out they've already lost most of their family. Yeah. I've never thought he was going to die though. I always have. Tonight, something big gonna have has to has to him and Darryl are going to finally split off completely like light riffles. Right. Right. So I think that's right. Might that's going to be the final turning point of where we're gonna see divide between rekindle the whole alpha. Beta thing makes the most sense because Gabriel says is that what you were going to do to me and to Rick and Jada says, yes. So that just tells you right there that the helicopter people they're going to get Rick. Whether it's Jada that does it or somebody else that does it. Maybe there's another mole inside there. They're going to get Rick. I don't well. Yeah. It could be. But I think she was like man fuck this. She tried to kill me. I'm getting a fuck about like fuck. This y'all ain't gonna get me. Some bullshit. I didn't even do a mobile. You know, Danny y'all come looking at me. And then this motherfucker that I just didn't even stick up for me. Like what the hell? You know, you just going to be like that. And then you're gonna follow me all the way here. Knock your black has out. She shouldn't have popped him in this for here. Like that. He only got one eye on right? You know, trying to survive. She's trying to get about it. I get it. But that was that was stupid too. So what'd you think about the the reveal that that it was oceanside killing? Of the people like that that seem with a Africa name, the black the black girl that base that killed Orion. Can't can't can't can't. Cindy, Cindy, Cindy. What what did you think about about that? Well, I was she in the right to do that it was done. Well, man because it's like you. It's like part of you is like hand. That's what good. But he's like I remember saying like just walk away just walk away. Islam do. Yeah. I'm saying like, it's just like you feel is like what what do you? You find out how cute was. Yes. Back like, the no exceptions. Thank say that. And yeah, it just it made sense. Saying no exceptions. Now is a good thing. That was amazing scene. This is probably the best episode. This far, I agree. It was amazing with the exception of Ricky Mahone. Yeah. Corneas trying to have a fucking right. Deserve a hate that whole. I hate. Mike. I'm wearing my every time. I see them together. I'm just like ill you want that Asmaa shown with all lies matter as Rick. It works. The middle. Could be with there's plenty of women walking around. He could have been with Jada snow. It made more sense to me at least she's a boss. She's it makes more sense shown. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Ain't no boss. No. Leader. Being a boss. Yes. Begging just like Rick machine is not been a boss said, she met Rick. Michelle was a danger to get more. Get more. Rick does. The fact is Rick is worthless. Not a boss. She what is she done? Like, let's let's put what is what is my show done. I just thought it was cool. Did she try to our as she had the whole that to do follow her way? Say say she has not been a Boston. You gotta listen. She was. That's not right. You've tried to get me. Right. I knew what you meant a she has been a punk since she got rid. I disagree. I. Con hold on. Didn't she and Daryll Lee that attack on Egan that what happened? I didn't say it worked. But that was a boss move boss move because she fucked up. No. But it's a boss Ringling all the time as a ball suit. Brought receipts to. Take your merchandise ban on down a ball. We already discussed this. Rick fuck up every single thing. He. Back. Yes. It does. Okay. Okay. Then he's a failed boss. He's a why people. He's too near to mayor Farren boss is he's worthless. We'll talk about and so I mean does not worthless. Because Michelle will get it done if and only if she's forced Andrea Andrea in who governor situation, I think she was she. No, no, no, she or Microsoft about Rick. Yes. Even with the governor situation. All she was was like like, a vendetta, she didn't lead anybody. She didn't help anybody. All she wanted. She was selfish. All she wanted to do was kill the governor. Wasn't that wasn't a boss move? She's not a leader say leader of boss. She's not a leader. She's an either as Rick. They're just their their fuck ups. She winning now. And now Rick has made Michelle fuck up. Megan Maggie, Maggie food. Does tired of diplomatic. Awesome Succo era. What the fuck? She's definitely tired of fighting. And I'm tired of her. But she's definitely a boss slash leader. Whatever where we wanna use. Hell I didn't. I was like what are you doing? Why are you gonna mess up Rick's plan, and they should of her? Yeah. They fucked up that's the point. But is Carol. Maggie is the closest thing we have to a boss right now because she's making the movie is and everybody win she fucked up because she the one that that's going to cause like anarchy between the community. That's not her fault because I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you what it though, and that's fine. But you know, what the people that she inspired. They're doing what needed to be done there killing the people who are threat to their community. What Cindy in them did made the most sense what Rick knows doing fucking big about. Yeah. It's vengeance. But at the same time it benefits everyone knows now. But that's all that matters. Their group is on the matter. The savior's have never done anything positive, right? Killed them all division, though. You want to? Okay. Let me ask you this. Are you for killing the safe? Hell, yeah. Every mother. No solve. About it. We assure them like they've been stolen still follow Neagh. He's been disrespect understand is hard to lay golden goal there. Bomber. Regardless. It's been what a year and a half. And he's. They could've killed them. I Rick could've just ended. Everybody trying to be nice visit philosophies, you don't even have guns. Think about this to save. Your don't even have guns are still talking shit. They're still talking. I'll tell you the best part of this entire episode because I really think that the people that are writing this show agree with me. They think Rick is a fuck up. If you if you remember the very okay at the beginning scene. Rick is walking around. He finds that tomato any leaves on the ground, which I was like the fuck that. Why did he do that? It was stupid until the end of the episode when Rick put that tomato down that was a smiled. It was like, this is hope this is hope for the future this tomato. Feel me. Put it down. He puts it down the very end of the episode. The first time I watched it. I missed it. When the saviors are leaving. Did you notice what happens based on the tomato? What that was that was them stepping on Rick's hope for the future. That was them saying what you thought was going to happen is not gonna happen. This is not gonna work. And then you see Rick's face. He's about to cry. I'm telling you when you if you watch the episode, I remember. What trying to figure out what's way having hoped though. But what they're saying in this world that type of hope gets you killed just real quick question. When did they step on the tomato before or it had to have been after they killed rot right after it was like one of the very last scenes after they killed rot. Now. It doesn't say if they know that rod is dead yet. Right. Right. Right. It's been taken right. Right. So then they are leaving because they're like look this is fucked up, and you can't protect it and they bounce. And then there's a scene of Rick's facings stand there looking like a fucking fool, and then it closes in on the foot tomato in the I thought I was like why is there a tomato in the middle ground. Wash the second time. I was like I get is this the same one where to save your ate the tomato. He was eating. Yes. It was like this is a hope for the future, the savior takes that hope bites it and says, look there's dense in this hope like there's there's there's problems with what you're talking. It's always revolving around that tomato, and then very end when he steps on it. It's like, no your hope is done so disagree with the go ahead. So I thought they were excommunicated. So they were leaving choice everything by choice. Okay. So far came right? Stay right. Okay. Now, the only thing that would lead me to think what you're saying might be a little bit true. Is I think there was none. No, actually, take that back. I take that back. 'cause when when Carol was being held with the with the knife, the big fight, and she says it's over and then Rick says this over I was hoping that Rick was finally saying that this truce is not going to work. I thought he was too. He says, oh, no every life Iraq. I definitely want to talk about. I think this is interesting like. Lissome hater ring, Ron. Not. But I I don't know there's something about I think the reason why I like that scene between a right? And Cindy, Maggie and Darrow is we we saw like they are obviously are you know, opposing what Rick is doing. But what that revealed to me was that what Rick was doing was working until Maggie fucked it up by killing Gregory. No, it wasn't working because savior's were always Buchan back. It was never working. But you'll have that. Right. You're gonna have people that kind of disagree. But for the most part, even though they they still follow Rick's ruled member when they went back to the to the to the what was the place called the savior place sanctuary. Remember the wall, we're still needing? But that's just you're going to have those. All live. But that is showing that what Rickman trying to do has not working. Now, the sabres are starving. But see I wouldn't say is not working is some that are going to be, you know, don't wanna follow a large majority of them. It was only they were still following SU only because of those two chicks that were leaders the white chick with a tattoo on her neck, and I think it was a rot was. Yeah. It was only those two at that end the little guy that gave up on the sabers. That that became one of maggie's folks talking about other than those people just don't people because in this world. That like this. What I'm saying? No, righteous, right, preaches, Dixon. He's awesome. Fucking bishop. Eddie long type shit. Overview up to say. But but that's what I mean. It's nothing wrong with having that hope or trying to get it back to a righteous world. Right. I mean, I mean. But you keep saying. Trump me last time, you got me with that. But I last but thing. Not Donald Trump is. But yes in this world, but that's what he's trying to look beyond this worm. No. And I get what you're saying. But it's like if you think about all these outside people who keep coming in who keep trying to mess things up every time he tries to do this. He's always been trying to do this every time he tried to do this. There's always some outside. Never worry. It was like working. Yeah. Iraq. No other way work though. So all division. Everybody having owned territories. And all this stuff that way, obviously didn't work at work. Only problem was Megan it worked dictatorship. Oh, no, no, no, no. If Megan was removed. There would have been no problem because member they even alluded to the fact that they used to trade with each other until Negus stepped in and cause an issue now Neagh would have never been able to take over if they actually had a whole gang of maggie's if every one of those like those communities was headed up by Maggie negro and be able to take over it would exam and Rick raiders and rain Rick beat a risk because he had to he had had no choice. He was getting poked for half a foot could do. He. I mean, he's doing in boss up guys asked every got damn to. Okay here. Here's why here's my evidence that it was working. Is what Cindy said is we thought Rick's way was the way, and you showed us that it wasn't when you Hong Gregory. And it showed us that. We don't have to follow and abide by Rick. So even though they were reluctant to do it, and they were basically lashing out. We are still needing they were still Abbadi by his idea. His vision of what he wants this new world to be guy. But nobody, but they were those that that that group of people the girls that were I don't know what you call that group of girls about what are they called oceanside oceanside people day out there. Okay with door net. Negus rupe? They is obvious. They don't they don't care about. They don't wanna do. But they were still they were still building a bridge weren't they? They were starving. Right. But but had become knee to a degree. Because Nick Rick was. But that's the problem. Rick was making them do shit because they were starving. His way of. L all I want everybody to get along. It really wasn't working. And wasn't that cement? Cindy was saying we thought that Rick's way was working until you showed us that. It wasn't. You have to stay killing saviors. Save us at all. They they are raised. There was always having. They always have problem with the same as anyway. So they don't even like to save the savior's came in. Nobody likes to save your. Right, but to die. But they this was a maggie's fuck up because when she did that she gave them power who. Maggie gave ocean. Needed to our need. Choice to handle things their way. Yes. But prior to that they were still living under Rix democracy and getting punked on a regular they were by the saviors savers. We're still chopping him. This punk yet. Well, not the oceanside people the entire community. They were still afraid of the savior's. If you if you watched the episode, you can tell there was still a fear of the savior's. Right. But the sabres don't even have like why would you wanna keep living under that this constant fear that this group is going to do something at some point just kill them and everybody can be happy because they all the way want. Runner can't run around people. What you can't keep putting understand this world. You're trying to stay in his apocalyptic world, and they're trying to get out which is which is viable of the fittest. And what written? Has it because Rick only did that for a very short period of time? And when he did do it shit worked when he was doing the prison. Fucking motherfuckers up chopping fuck. His head shit was working to our next to a certain extent. But when he started being like, oh, we can have we can live and have a great community and everybody can live peacefully and the governor showed up it was like number your neck Herschel not. And then Rick was like damn I fucked up because think about it think about it. When he went had that discussion with the governor Rick was doing the same bitch ass. Shitty. Always does. Hey, man. We can live together. Man. We can we can we can live in peace, and what a governor saying non now, and because of that Hershel had to die. Hell other people have Maggie Beth had to die because of Rick d'italia Reese diamond no later, but again of people had a because of Rick Rick has been fucking up for season. Rick went Shane, then dish wouldn't happen. If Rick walk in there and said, okay, I lived together. And governor was like, nah amount think so and Rick's at fine. But isn't it interesting that it's finally working and Rick's own people that that temporarily? Yeah. Is are we going to be a new people outside is once again Vigors coming back? Ever been right. I'm saying because I grew. Not. Because a fucking Eugene because Rick almost got every single motherfucker kill, okay. But Rick's the Rick, but he didn't Eugene exactly exactly wasn't because of renowned a Rick's leadership, rigging Lee shit. Maggie is more of a Bennett. Brian Rick is Maggie has all of the bucking Trump cards. Go ahead. Con. I'm sorry. So. So. I do agree. It's been working as of currently has been. Here's what he's said. No. Because of the fact that we see that what's what's the girl's name this call these people on the on the Janus JD's, and whatever they're going to be some problems. You can't just brain people and spent problems to happen is going to be promising to mess up everything again, everybody's gonna have to figure out how to get back to what used to work, which is fighting bet when they gotta fight bay. But you know, what you often have like rebellions when there's no food, right? Like when people are starving. They fucking lose their mind. We have plenty of his three as evidence for that heard about the monkeys monkeys that invaded the place because they were hungry. So they started like they like smashed do with rockets. I dunno wild. They sound like pleaded hungry. So they went to and smash to do with Rosca. They were hungry like. Monkeys most governments if you know like dictatorships if they're not eating they're going to get them other forgo bottle there. So Rick is like, okay, we have to feed you guys. We gotta get you guys food we need to build his because you're fucking and this gonna cause some problems once people are fed, then what Rick needed to do after that is he needs an army to be able to handle people coming in like a helicopter people. Now, they probably got all kinds of weapons and shit. But you still need to build an army which Megan had army. Remember, he has some enforces to go out. And and I think part part of the world would Neagle was known elements of what he was doing this right yet word elements of Rick is doing this. Also, right. I think what needs to happen is. And he's a be because we see that's what Maggie Maggie is of trying to do some of the things she said, I think will work if she comes together were Rick, and they come to an understanding where they can they can kind of do some of the things that Rick says, the do but also do. Some of the things that Maggie says the do then that world word. Yeah. And that's where they messed. So that's where I think Rick made a poor decision as usual when it comes to being a leader. Because what they could have done together is go up there as one Rick standing beside Maggie. And then all of a sudden oceanside wouldn't have looked at Maggie basically rebelling against rig shoo, I'm like, oh, they're they've come to a decision universally, right? And made this decision to get rid of this guy that's causing problems. So Rick still is perceived as to overall leader the president. He's just working in conjunction with. He was in the background holding. Fuck no, bright. And and what I'm saying is that he should have been standing right beside right Maggie. So they can see that both of them made a decision, but but the optics of it would have seen that would've gave the appearance that ring was part. Of the disease, but Rick would of never agreed to that. That's the problem. That's where you made a really good point about the people that are starving. And I started thinking about this y'all listening mayor silly. Anyways, he has this line where he says world leaders now we'll see when when you keep the people from eating the people will eat them. That shit is Rick Rick is trying to make all of this shit work, but it slowly failing. And you said that when people are starving they lose their minds. He Rick knows the saviors are starving and he's trying so hard to save them. But at some point the savings are going to be like, you can't save us. We need to save ourselves. They're going to eat Rick unless Rickles often this helicopter, but Rick's whole plan is basically just prolonging their their demise at this point minds. Everyone's. Everyone even if they get fed at some point the savior still have that that that evil in them. Right. And you can just tell by the way, they are just some of them did not host of them. And I think the ones that that did they would've handled them like they handle Gregory. But so anyway, interesting discussion, let's get to the receipts that you had and then we can yellow right, right? So before I get my receipts. I just wanna say this. I this is why I brought the receipts. I felt like you guys always calling Rick quote, unquote, a bit not necessarily because I agree that that that you know, he has his fucking bad, whatever. But at least he's he steps up and tries to make a decision before someone else. That's what that's what I always. Like, he that's why he's always been my favorite skater. We'd rather good or bad. You still appreciate it. Because he doesn't he doesn't want to Lee he's leading because people look. To him to leave. Whatever reason yet. Disagree. If you go back seasons wanted to lead was the old dude that got his guts eating. Jail jail Lee. Sure did Glenn even stepped up EV all these people have stepped up with better ideas. Dan renwick. Maybe not Dale Dale was on that. Rick shit back before Rick Rick. Oh, we can all be together. Yeah. That was Dale back. Then sure what I'm saying. Like, there's always been other people becoming the the leaders because he was a cop wasn't because he was. Yes. It was. They always looked to him because he was a police officers. So. Yeah, deform, the would you think? Speech indices to right before when the when the Rick tater ship started. Yeah, I wanna say that was the. Y'all wanna go go, but if you won't just mob war. Oh, yes. Remember today? But I still love to that was a dope ads. Fucking speech. Still ain't shit. I think that was like turnip that was the why we they looked at him. That's where he really took on the leadership that was that moment. He was before. Before that the reason the reason he had to make that decision. He was really talking to Laurie. If you remember that was after he had to kill Shane Shane wanted to be the leader. Right. Right. And they were still looking at Rick for leadership. Well, Shane was the leader at a little camp. He was until Rick show. I was that because Rick showed up he had a level head. He wasn't working around punch people in the face. And because he was a cop. If Rick wasn't a cop. He wouldn't have been the leader. I don't I don't know if it was because he was calling officer friendly like I think he'll definitely help, you know, grow again because they got there. He got there with Glenn and all those people that when he brought glancing at camping Glen. Glenn? So did Rick make it to the camp himself? No GRANDE health demand. Save Rick did but yeah. But glint, right, right. Just saying. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. I thought you said. Glenn? He brought glint to the camp. No Glenn was part of the camp. Yeah. All right and left and then found Rick remember down to Glenn Glenn scout. That's right along with other. Glenn, Glenn, Glenn. Usual. Rick does some stupid himself in a fucking bond the horse killed and shit. That got the horizontal eight nine shit. Fucking Rick sacrifice going to town. When you you know, what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. Are- old shit. So my whole point is that I feel like he steps up when he steps up. Yes. Sometimes he makes me makes bad. At the end of the day. He still steps up. And that's all I'm saying. It's not many people a lot of people be frayed step up some time except like the Shane's and people like that. Bro. Rick just comes up with the plans and the plans fail, but everyone steps up. You can't give me give me two plans. I'll give me to read it. Okay. He had to write them down. Sits down forgetting sit receipts. Receipts sort of sort of I one back and season two. When the guys came over in that bar, the strangers that came over in the Barton. So y'all saying richton step up in that situation? He was pinned down in a bar, and they were shooting, and what do you mean step up? But he he was the one that took these guys out in a major way. What do you mean? He don't wanna took the strain out to me, no choice doesn't matter. But at the end of the day when the end of the day, oh, he was the one that did it that was no stepping love with. He was with. Gwynne? Yeah, he was with Glennon drunk Herschel weekly. So what do you mean out or something like that? Then then they get so he had to kind of take. They didn't get shot. Somebody got shot, Glenn or or or the old, man. So I didn't got one of them. Neither one of them shot Herschel hers her didn't get shy drunk. They had had to drag them out or something like that. They had they had to put them back on. He almost died in. He almost Hirsch. I think it was he got shot and almost. It who saved him. There was no other doctors. What do y'all talk with him? So he almost. Yeah. His daughters. His daughters knew how to win her show got bit in the leg off her. Because they had to go back to the he was the only one in new this place was that's why I was there in the first place, no left hersal left, and then went drinking by himself and any found him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He got shot. I thought he got Soldat bar something her shooting hurting to season three. Anyway. If he did I don't regret kill them off with no hesitation, he stopped the two guys that were going to kill him that wasn't him stepping up that was him trying to. He everyone else alive in that situation. They didn't make come on. They have. I think Glenn bitch. He he's more of a bitch. That was shame. Shame. Shame. What he talked to him ache. Become oh, come on. Speaking of saying go to saying go to shame. Shame was a filet only downfall was was the box. So that was the only. Fucking lori. She wouldn't even cute skinny ass. No doubt here, all pale and see. Her look like the do from nightmare before Christmas. Going to jets going to Halloween get your face. All right. So speaking of saying so Shane this folks it any what about the Rick fuck shit? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying fucking plan. But what folks it right turn into ambi-? Yeah. He did kill kill them. Herschel son or something like that? Fat. Boy, he killed him off the second Hershel Hershel or his whatever they do survival of the fucking fittest. That wasn't functioning the fat door was holding him back. You got for the fact that the Dafur that that Paul all that shot? Call. Folks. Anyway, but point is dot. Agree. I agree with you that point in the show early in the show season. We didn't know about the world. We didn't know we killed him. We didn't we didn't survive at that point in time. Like, I would agree with you know, how this world is. On that. I've noticed do in this fat focused down. It's not like I got an emotional ties with him. He was already hurt member. His leg was fucked up. So Shane was basically. Yes, Shane was Kerry hair do and if the huge kept they would have got eight up by them. They would have got eat up and call would have died. But my point is is that he. That was not the same for him in front. Same. Yourself. If I was getting. His leg was up. Anyway, that's why he shot. He was shot. A matter of fact in effect try to come back and get him or something like that. And then he threw him into into or he came not just show it up and put my stuff Akam my point is for saying fat body shaming. But at the end of the day, rich. It was the one that had to step up and kill Shane, whatever. Nobody else. Did it? Wait a minute. No, no, no way. Did not step up to kill Shane. Shane was going to kill Rick. How Jolie's wait what you mean? How he's going to. Wait, wait, wait. He was already zombie at that point. We put a gun on when he case shoot. When he knew. Do we want that field? He he had to come point at Rick Rimes. They will tolerate right. He had he had he had to make a decision to take them out that wasn't him stepping up. That was either odd. I ride. I I don't that wasn't. And he didn't he cannot let let let a shame living situation to if he just killed this, man. Whatever he I don't think Rick knew at that point that he had killed shows homey, wick knew that he had killed their prisoner. Right. Remember, the prisoner those bad guys young boy, the young guy they had them held up in the barn. He's net his neck, and it was like got no bites high came back design be whatever member dad why. Yes. Yes. I'm saying they and the thing is that was another situation where Rick fucked up you have a guy from another rival group that almost kills y'all. You're talking about. Yeah. Like kill them. Is being up plucking? My only issue is Shane was. He was he was he was. That was that was. 'cause you're not over two. So I'm not losing y'all. Just defense. We just. Whatever. So let's see I had another one has more. Char- we talked about this. When he when he slammed into the prison that when I talked about that. So even that was still self defense too. Because the do Dombi Rick. Rick was mad and he almost hit him. Remember swinging almost like hit him. And he was like, oh, my man. I felt I felt Rick on that one. Oh, this was the one I was talking about on online. So people that don't follow us online. I I said this Mike about how when it was about to rape call. He took them guys out. He ripped he ripped the he bit the dues throw it out. And then he killed any stab to sit out his friend house that not how was that not being a bad ass be the bitch ethnic for that. Have you got to? Of course, they gotta do it. Then that's not stepping up because he got everybody killed again. The guy the guy own out about him always getting about being not being a bitch in this one step up and do the right thing. He didn't step up and do the right thing. He's looking to try to protect mad luck as they were hoping Darryl shot the gun, and they miss. Remember? You can watch the scene. They they he had the going on Rick and Rick headbutted him and the dude gone went off. And it barely missed. Rickety Rick's ears. We're fucking ringing. Okay. Then Rick jumped up got beat down again to bear bear hug him. And he bit him. Okay. So that whole scene could a win left. It could've. But it did. Okay. You were talking about luck. Now that ain't go on. Because allow you. That's the only reason it didn't go left is. Because the dude was watching the leader when you get bit. And then shown grab them and kill them. Okay. That was plain luck. If those soldiers. That those dudes had if they were on their game. They would have all died. That was not Rick step enough that was trying to save his son. All right, man. We go you go for three. Let the people decide. Get. So let's see. Rick only steps out. Should I think we talked about that? But I it's hard to say. He he step up internally. You mean he care? This. Okay. Carol did that but he finished the job? He he went. Because he was just leading the pack of killing motherfuckers out to sea. She calls it the shark shin. Now, she calls. Actually, no distraction was when she shot it was a missile. Right. So she did that. But he's still had to get in the fuck up outta there. I have to you know, what for this one. Don't think you're probably wrong. But I don't remember details about that episode. He was he was like when she calls the distraction that gave him the opportunity to get. There's about to kill all, right? Title wasn't. He read him. I wanna say he got free. And then he started killing everybody Errol, and then hit any start killing everybody else to my man was hitting everybody in the back of the head with the baseball. He was they was all like this ring. Lina packed getting them out of there. Carol Carol Carol did her thing and then Lee. Jams are shooting. People got out of there, though. He was the one that was going to he's running like that's not a vendor. Because this time go some blowing up its runs together here. Shut up everyone at terminus. He didn't shoot up everybody. 'cause ain't have a gun. I'm not to go back and rewatch that once I'm gonna let that one slide your one for six what about the church scene? Yeah. I know you've probably. When he had to ramshackle. Give me that. I'll give you that one. That was that was the only plan that Rick executed perfect. And it reminded me a shame. Shame with do say once Martin up just about as far as no, no. But I'm saying that wasn't happened. Remember Shane trick? Those people in the coming back to the church. And then he yes, Rick did right? Rick trick those people to come back to the Turkey. That's the only one Rick actually came through. Everybody else decide. I wanna get one. Soon allows us to show been out. One more time we got. First of all, I think all of those valid, but we got six in the last year's show being out bred. I mean, how many just bring and how many? How many more next week? I'm gotta find out gropers living. Niagara falls. All right. That's what that shit was worrying about debris got them. Bring some more next this kind of try to keep right case. Anyway, man. There's a lot to digest rigs philosophy versus I guess Neagh. Mike be cons philosophy which saw to you on. You know, Rick a bitch. I feel like we should do a poll. We would do a poll on on Twitter about some of these. But anyway, man, that's going to do it for us with catch you guys. Next time. We out peace peace.
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