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"carol j adams" Discussed on Switch4Good
"Goin'. Yes better so now. Let me introduce our formidable guests today. As dottie said she is carol j adams and she is quite the scholar. We're going to learn a lot. She's a prolific activist an academic and she's the author of many books and anthologies. Her work spans the intersection of feminism. Veganism caregiving and spirituality and while she has many many outstanding titles to her name the book for which he is best known is probably the sexual politics of meat which you mentioned earlier. She's celebrating its thirtieth anniversary in twenty twenty it's been coined the bible for feminism and progressive. Animal rights activists. There's no doubt that after reading her work you will be changed and hopefully after this podcast too. So welcome carole. We are so thrilled to have you on the show today. Thank you both very much. It's a great joy to be here with both of you and thanks for inviting me so did you. Did you see that picture that. I was showing our audience that are talking about for our listeners. And what did you have thoughts on that. Yes there's another one With two been next to a prize winning so called dairy cow mean to begin to talk about feminism and veganism. People often do go to the treatment of cows. Because dairy is one of the differences between vegetarianism and veganism a very very complicated issue. Because it a sense from her birth to her death the cow who's used to have her mammalian milk taken from her is exploited. She separated from her mother when she's maybe as young as fifteen minutes. She lives Often in these crates and then Is impregnated to begin to give milk when her milk goes dry while she's impregnated when she gives birth. She loses her child auction within fifteen minutes. They say every cows move for their child is a different sound and they can mourn their their children. Big taken from them for up to two weeks They tried to escape. They tried to hide the child. There's a well we could go back to. There's a wonderful story about cow resistance. A letter milk dries up. She's impregnated again so the key thing here is that she's both trag meant and lactating which uses a per body so quickly and a thin cow is sick cow so the idea that the you were showing You could see her ribs but her others were very heavy. It said that a cow who's pregnant and lactating. It would use up as much energy as jogging for seven hours a day. The amount of bill take from cows is three times as great as it was fifty years ago. So we're stressing their bodies out and there's an incredible book The cow with ear tag. I never that number five. I think by catherine obscene. Gillespie she went to auction sites where these cows are auctioned off after four years. They're no longer Seen as productive and it's the most wrenching experience she talks about how scholars aren't equipped or recognized for having emotions and she's just gripped by this one cow and in the morning tries to call back to buy the cow and the cows already been killed so The the end of the cow who who could have lived to be twenty is is often at four. I know you probably have questions about other things. But i wanted just quickly say here too that There is a facebook group of farmers and and women farmers as well as male farmers joining here and they were showing their make your own ear tags and the ear tags had bitch from hell and it created this whole thread about cows who try to kick or cows who in in in our language would be full of resistance and You know to the ear tags would say something like not just bitch but slot so there is a melding of Processing of species so even though this is patriarchal act farming cows. Taking you know taking milk from cows it's not that it's only men women participate in the oppression of others and we participate in the oppression of women to as As we all know so when we talk about the overlap of the experience of women and cows. It's not that we're making a comparison. And i'm very hesitant when animal rights groups wanted to compare. This is how this is like this because our experiences are also very very different. But what we want to look at is where those inner connect. So that women's oppression is used to leverage the cows oppression even more so or the cows oppression is is used to leverage women's oppression Look at skinny cow ice cream or whatever where the cow has a tape measure around her waist as though she would wanna be thin so that whole body hading notion applied to women and body size is is implied so the other animals would have that So i'm looking not at. Comparisons comparisons can make miss the differences I'm looking at one these intersect and when they don't for instance an ad that would say you know. What would she do if she were pregnant. And showing a hours so she was now chasing after dead dead. Animals shot down by the farmer. And we've seen that as an anti an antiabortion anti reproductive control message about women. What would she do. She were pregnant. So one of the ways to look at how these get applied is looking at ads. in animal. agriculture that us women's oppression to further animal oppression or vice versa. Sorry long answer about the cow. But you know there's just a whole life there that's being lived deserves all of the time that it needs and i appreciate that detailed explanation very much. Yeah it's important that we be reminded of it or certainly learn about it for the first time that same Carol i we have so much to traverse but before we do i want to know about The carol in the year That you were writing the sexual politics of meat. I mean what who were you. What were you experiencing. What were you sharing What were you thinking about What were you acting.
"carol j adams" Discussed on KYW Newsradio 1060
"Right now. The Eagles are under fire for the way they lost the last game of the season over to a record number of people went to Pennsylvania State parks in 2020. The state's expecting another record year, this time around. And recapping our top story. President Trump pressures Georgia's secretary of state to find votes in his favor to help overturn the results of the presidential election. That conversation caught on teeth. That's all ahead in the next 15 minutes. Good morning. I'm Carol Mackenzie. And I mean Bush. Good morning, Tim McLaughlin. Is that the editor's desk along with Phil Kasey, the Eagles lost to Washington in a game that featured a pretty controversial quarterback change. We get the story from K Y W. Said banking. With the Eagles trailing by three in the fourth quarter, Doug Peterson replaced yelling Hurts with Nate Sub felled for those who suspected the Eagles were put in a better position to lose to get a better draft pick. Peterson claims giving sudden fell. Playing time was part of the plan heading into the game plan this week was to get Nate sometime and I felt like it was the time to get him in the game, Hurd said. He has complete faith in the decisions Peterson makes and said the loss of missing the playoffs will be what stings heading into the offseason crazy because this is sort of my chest off season. No kind of failing to get to the postseason. How hard work we put in. He's gonna sit on my chest while Ashington clinched the NFC. So the wind Ah law sort of given the Giants the division title, and many players on New York share their displeasure of the Eagles quarterback change on Social Media. I'm Ed Bank in K Y W News radio. Moving on from the Eagles. The Rosengarten roofing scoreboard schedule your Free Roof estimated roof. Nick, calm. Sixers take on the Hornets at seven tonight. Flyers training camp starts today. COLLEGE Basketball ST Joe's fell to Rhode Island 85 to 77. The Villanova Wildcats have resumed basketball activities and head coach Jay Wright is on target to rejoin the team for tomorrow's game against DePaul. He's been recovering from Cove in 19. Camping and hiking proved to be really popular getaways during the pandemic. Pennsylvania state parks so a record number of visitors in 2020 and the expectation is for a lot of people. He returned to parks this year as well. K y W Is Marc Abrahams joining us this morning market morning? So I guess you know the story. Behind these numbers is is the pandemic and people were getting out. No question about that. Carol Cindy Adams done. Secretary of the P A Department of conservation and natural resource is is people flock this state parks in droves the past year, seeking respite from the pandemic in the outdoors, visits to state parks, a love of course, that doesn't count the state forest land that doesn't count all the trails of state force that it doesn't count local parks and local trails. Done, says There was an increase of eight million more state Park visits last year for everything from hiking to camping anything that you could buy that related to the outdoors. People bought kayaks, bikes, grills, camping equipment, so big uptick in all of.
"carol j adams" Discussed on KYW Newsradio 1060
"Again, I'm not seeing any serious delays. Mass transit everything on a close to schedule the cable W News Radio 24 hour traffic Center. I'm San Clover. Thank you, Sam. Now the NBC 11th alert forecast with meteorologist Bill Henley. Cool cloudy and drizzly. Start this Monday morning, but we will see those showers taper off this morning. Clouds, however, remained this afternoon warming to 60 degrees By lunchtime. I have 66 this afternoon. Clouds linger tonight will dip down into the sixties during the evening hours, but overnight tonight those clouds will break will start with some sunshine on Tuesday morning. 55 the low up to 62 Tuesday afternoon. But during the day the clouds will be increasing on Tuesday, and that could lead to a few scattered showers. Wednesday morning. Hello, 49 degrees, then we'll get some sunshine Wednesday afternoon up to 61 for a high clouds were back for Thursday and Friday with a soaking rainfall. The remnants of Tropical Storm Zeta coming our way. 51 Thursday morning. The rain arrives in the morning and stays right on through the day Thursday with a high of 60 degrees and the showers continue into Friday morning with a low of 56. Then, with some late day clearing on Friday, Ah, high of 54 degrees. I'm NBC 11th Alert meteorologist Bill Henley with your most accurate forecast count on it. Right now. 50 degrees with some fog and mist out there we're heading up to a cloudy 66 today. 5 35 A homeless man is now facing murder charges He's accused of intentionally setting an apartment fire yesterday morning that killed two people in Camden came what abuse Tim Jimenez is in Camden this morning. He joins us live with more on this, Tim. Yes. Carol Brandon Adams is now facing two counts of first degree murder. The count in Camden County Prosecutor's office announced this late last night. Detective say he set the fire at the apartment of 34th and Kramer streets early yesterday, about three in the morning. The fire tour through that three storey building, people were crawling to avoid the smoke and flames. Some jumped out of the windows to get to safety. Erica Diaz lives in the building, and she's poked at NBC. 10 just gotta be happy You're alive. You made it out and pray for the ones that in their family. Two men who have not been publicly identified. They were killed in the fire. 10 people were hurt, including a firefighter who had minor injuries. Authorities say at least 36 people were displaced and they're getting help from the Red Cross..
"carol j adams" Discussed on Stuff Mom Never Told You
"Take a second helping whereas women are satisfied with a small portion okay a study from two thousand seventeen pointed to chemical L. signatures on thousand-year-old bones to trace the rise of the Patriarchy Yup because ten thousand years ago as agricultural is on the rise. Men and women ate the same stuff researchers know this from bone analyses the bronze age rolled around women were primarily eating wheat and barley and men were on a steady diet of animal products at the same time women's bones were buried with less treasure which researchers think is another indicator in decreased status when compared compared to men more recent history before women were allowed to work and meet could be an expensive luxury for working class families. It was common for the men of the family to get the first and largest portion of meat since he he needed the strength for working. It sounds like the same idea during Thanksgiving. The man of the house is the one that cuts the meat yeah. That's always been a weird thing to me. I didn't understand why that was such a huge wjr. <hes> patriarchal thing that needed to be done and said <hes> yeah I I didn't know my in my family that is not how it is right carves a there's no tradition for us when his carved meet. Let's just meet yeah. I just always thought that was the idea of it made me angry in theory. It's like one less thing for my mom to do but on the other hand. She did everything else so I don't see why it's like the man gets to present the honor of yeah like this thing that you put all this work into yeah. I'll take it in. I don't know about that in Nineteen Ninety Carol J Adams Book the Sexual Politics of meat a a feminist vegetarian critical theory debuts and got quite a lot of media attention. The cover was illustrative of one of the main points of the book it depicts the back of a naked woman sectioned out by parts like we often see for me too. You know like Ribs Chuck Round the point being both women and animals are marketed and consumed <hes> from her site. The sexual politics of meat argues that male dominance in animals oppression are linked by the way that both women and animals function as absent referrence eating and dairy production and that feminist theory logically contains Vegan critique just as veganism covertly challenges Patriarchal Society Patriarchy is a gender system that is implicit in human animal relationships in overlap of cultural images of sexual violence against women and fragmentation and dismemberment of nature and the body and Western culture exist this cycle of objectification fragmentation and consumption and links butchering with both the representation and reality of sexual violence in Western cultures that normalizes sexual consumption actually with that I was when I was researching some of the things one of the articles that I saw I saw had this whole concept of masculinity salinity and meat and animal protein to this extreme idea like this that included married women are almost fearful of being vegetarian's because of disapproval rejection or even violence from men. Wow Yeah now that now that you say I have seen like kind of joking right you know for me. It used to be like you don't smoke. Do you right but I've seen it with some of my not really friends but dues in my life like you're not a vegetarian are you right right and it seems like disqualifier ray and it is kind against you and I could see that the extreme level of any kind of violent relationship this could be one more. Excuse of you better have this as perfected ray. I learned this is perfection. Yeah I and I have been heartened seekers. <hes> I have a lot of friends who were like one of them is beginning one of the movement or vegetarian. It's hard. I know the relationship I definitely had moments where I when I was <hes> I really into the dating world and I was vegetarian for a lot of reasons and I remember the first date. The first thing that dude order was veal. Oh that evening asking me any like he knew I was a vegetarian. We kind of already. I've had this conversation and he ordered that looked at him. I didn't have too much kinda paused and he goes. Oh you know I just only order that wouldn't cook for myself and I kind of stay there and again. Obviously you have no cares about my opinion because you go into the most politically politically incorrect meat and ordered it on the route yeah and just like enjoying meals together <hes> difficult my little brother in my view very randomly became a vegetarian Rian but it's because I don't see him very often but it happened over Thanksgiving night cooked Thanksgiving and it was like Oh hey I'm vegetarian. Oh no no no and just like yeah you forget all the things you have to think about all the things that could be in there yeah so stock exactly seasonings or what's touched what I mean that's really important and for those who are Vegetarian Vegan you want to be respectful to the absolute and so you're like the crap. What am I gonNa do yes and going back to the sexual politics of meat? A study did look into the premise that all oppression is linked. Here's specifically in the oppression of animals and women and it found people who identified as more pro meet displayed a higher correlation with sexist attitudes and people with a more pro animal stance correlated with a greater desire to shake male female dichotomies like strict dichotomies but let the researchers were and are quick to point out that <hes> all study shows is that these things are somehow related and that it doesn't show that everyone eats me sexist because of course the headline right. Adams's site is also full of examples of this whole idea playing out during the trump era if you wanNA check it out including political pin called a K._f._C. Hillary special too fat is too small breast left wing and all kinds of ads actually do use terminology like this. You can grab touch abreast things like that <hes> when and alassio Parson published a study finding only. Between Masculinity and meeting and that in Argentina male vegetarians were more likely to be open to feminism it similarly got a very big response and when she was invited to speak on a talk show on Fox the male host I bought out a steak and ate it in front of her kind of proving her points. He's a recent study out of University of Southampton found that for three groups of male participants they all expressed a desire desire to eat less meat but that it was difficult without quote social permission and this study has gotten some criticism for its methodology perhaps most notably from author Belan Lincoln who cited the masculinity and meat consumption trope and desire or to make headlines another study linked class and meat consumption finding that when given the option for either a beef or Vegan Beast Burger the highest demand for meat came from people who rated themselves at the lowest socio economically chemically and yet another study found that men who felt that their masculinity was threatened routinely added red meat to their meals so there's a lot of studies looking into this and I know recently there's been that study about <hes> made headlines about <hes> veganism being linked to white privilege. Oh which I could see right and as true as we were talking about you know trying to be vegetarian. It was really difficult. I was when I was getting out of college <hes> in changing and needed to change my lifestyle anyway and this is a good way to go and also had been reading some bugs and it was horrifying <hes> but one of the things because I could not healthily do it <hes> part of that because I could not afford all of the great ideas and endurance doing it healthy because Tofu is one of the things that I could easily afford but at the same time so much soy was causing a lot of disruption in my body <hes> you know and stuff like that as well as the fact that I wasn't properly getting all the Greens that I needed and vegetables fresh vegetables are expensive and it's absurdly so <hes> and goes out I'm with you. I actually did read a calm not too long ago about how <hes> talking about being a vegetarian talking about being organic is a classic idea and stop it. Stop pushing this as this is normal. This is healthy. This is what we should be doing as a society. That's really nice. That's a really great concept but we understand yes. Most people cannot afford this and it wasn't until the last few years that even our system allowed for people to use <hes> the food assistance programs within this type of realm of farmers markets and areas okay so you could get healthy options that wasn't trying to stretch the dollar yeah if you can't afford it for a family of five and that's almost impossible yeah so yeah. I'd have definitely seen that I could see where they talk about but definitely classiest out for sure idea for sure yeah. <hes> another part of this conversation is the idea that in our society we pressure men <hes> to be more muscular are that's a pretty big kind of pressure <hes> and to build muscle muscle you need protein and we're told that you need animal protein for that which is not true..
"carol j adams" Discussed on Open Stacks
"And fury. Also for more recipes and revolutions we turn to Carol Adams in conversation with journalist Marla rose at the call last fall. Of course, that devoted November twenty sixteen was devastating and one morning in December two thousand sixteen. I thought I know what we need to right. We need to write the anti-trump diet. We were very lucky. There was an editor who loved it, but he, he suggested protests kitchen because we weren't just criticizing Trump. We shouldn't situate the book that only the problem was only Trump. The problem is not Trump. The problem is eleven on the Republican members on the judiciary. The problem is Brexit in England. The problem is the right wing gaining surgeons and seeing a phobia in Europe. So we needed to wide in this, this is the book, you can give people to say this is why I'm vegan social Justice thing, but it was also written for vegans to help articulation isn't isn't like what? Foodie weeding. Thing we wanted to show that you can play with your food. And this was my sister's idea. She said Carol, you've gotta have some sort of Trump to dinner and so we had Briana Clark rope in this very talented Canadian chef she has provided. So we call them resistance meals, end of bonus. Trumped Trump say, Tom a lot more on. Drain the swamp, kitchen cabinet compote. Stop the wall. Fire and wall taco salad with Aaron.
"carol j adams" Discussed on Open Stacks
"Here's another the word of the day is galley or advanced reader copies, also known as arcs whatever you call them books that publisher sent out before they're even close to being reminded that is before, they hit our shelves help booksellers, especially know what it is. We're selling and fill our lives and cars with an unparalleled excitement. And oftentimes embarrassment for taking longer to read them than frankly, seems possible. Let alone practical, for instance, I've had a copy of animal wise, five Virginia Morell on my shelves since two thousand twelve that I still haven't so much as cracked or passed on. Why because there's a fascinating looking chapter on dolphins. For more incredulous reading material, we asked our staff, what? They couldn't wait to read it managed somehow to put off until now. What's that? What's strike that? They've still gone read, what they sure do sound good. So what's the problem? I begged for copy of novel. Sounds southern.
"carol j adams" Discussed on Open Stacks
"And being astonished at how expensive it is. A lot of people, that's a lot of money including me. So I think a common misconception insight really a misconception. I don't know if it's misconception, but a common thought when you enter place, any books are really, but especially perhaps a place like the seminary, call that specializes in titles from university presses which we won't get into now. But are often for reasons known and unknown very expensive. A lot of labor time a lot of research time, and a lot of editing time that goes into the production of university press book Leinna as, as a book editor as well. Precise insight into that. Is that right? So you really know why we're ascribing this value to books, or is a reason thera. You can always tell when there's a paid copy editor on board with a project, and it usually makes the book better. But there's also you know, if you're talking about works that are either in translation or that have passages that have been translated as part of the research. There's translation fees. There's foreign rights fees and stuff. So there, there really are a lot of things tied up in the cost of university press book, which is not always apparent the casual browser. We're here today not to talk about it's the front tip where we're standing now. But also at the front of house front of store, some books, that are marked down, and you're going to tell us why and what those books are called. Yes. Exactly. Yes. It's the remainder carts. This is just an abandoned cart, but I've put some remainders on but yeah here at the front of the star. We have various sales sections. Some better signed than others. And I just wanted to point, you around the different things that we have in reasons why they may have ended up here on sale, despite us. You know, fully valuing the book, this is not trying to undercut anyone this is not trying to light out some form of labor that's gone onto the book. There are other reasons why these books are lower price, so to these I pulled brand Luther Andrew pedigree from penguin, press, and EastWest street from Naf by Philippe sands got a couple of these in this category. Alexei of secondhand time, of course, Nobel prize literature, and then another Luther book Martin Luther renegade in profit. Throwing a boat here. What's wrong with Luther? He's all he's just remaindered all over the place. He's a controversial guy. But both these Luther books were massive when they came out in hardcover, and now here we have renegade improv Lindahl Roper from Random House that one is marked down from forty two nine ninety eight and despite having are fantastic sales here in hard cover. I think what happened to this is probably they pushed out the paperback for both of these Luther books sales have been going so strongly in hardcover paperback comes out that immediately, people want the paperback rather than the hard cover and despite the really high and quick sales. The publisher has a lot of hardcover stock that needs to get turned over to somewhere else wants the paperback comes out, and our customers are allowed to kind of take advantage of that, by getting this heart markdown hardcover stock that the publishers trying to they're trying to make room in their warehouses for, for the paperback or new brand new releases Luther. Not having that hard time of it led to the reformation hardcover book sales looking good. So good. In fact, that the publisher had faith in Luther enough to print more copies than than upping necessary. Right. Okay. Yes. And then there's the. This new stock of books that we are just in the process of cycling out onto our into our sale sections. These are stock from the Indianapolis Christian theological seminary, which had a fantastic bookstore attached to it for many, many years and believe the bookstore. Portion of it was closed down late last year early last year. Sorry, late last fiscal year in our books. And they were looking for a place that the stock could go and still be, you know, shared among people who really value it. So we brought their inventory up here to sell and a lot of it is, you know, older additions of things things I have some, you know, yellow pages some shelf ware, but as you can see lane Pagel's for aid, totem taboo, William James varieties of religious experience. These are prime books that still have a big audience. So we were able to bring them in and sell them at sale price, much to the benefit of our customers. Two and it's speaking in misconceptions this afternoon. But another understandable misconception. Is that the seminary Cobb is, in fact, attached to a seminary, which one point our history, we were, but no longer we still have. However. Notable theology section and then world religion section. So these books do have a home here that books like this with the continuing closing most Christian bookstores no longer do one more that I wanted to point out here is a book called an history of the corruptions of Christianity into volumes by Joseph Priestley would definitely sounds like a made up off their her religious book. But this is from a so-called publisher called forgotten books, and they do a lot of basically FEC simile reprinting books that are in the public domain. So as you can see this is more or less a digital scan of a manuscript from many decades ago, not sure when but you know that the S's look like Fs it's old enough that, that that's happening. And you got that thing it's not even a key on a keyboard anymore. Coffee stain or fake blood or anything like that. It's probably -mongst blood. Yeah. So these will be a digitally scanned and then printed up with this horrendous cover any any book that you get from forgotten books is going to have this torn kind of manuscript and half leather bound cover with a seal. Really, just pay a graphic designer like ten more bucks to make it better. But as which is this is unsurprising, but they are non-returnable because they're just printed as one off someone replaced, the book, they print it. And I mean it's fantastic, that these things are out in a veil -able in the world. So it's fantastic that these books are made available out into the world. But when we when we do bring them into the store because they're these one off printings of these books in the public domain. We once we buy them, we have them pass them onto a customer. So sometimes they. Until there. Yeah. When you put it in their back when. Exactly. Yeah. So sometimes as with any book, that's on our shelf for a long time. It just needs to find a new home mclearn shelves forgotten until it's forgotten again. Which I did. And we had to turn the recorder back for exactly. Yeah. Well, this, this isn't wonderful spot end all these would be forgotten books, if not for booksellers like you, Elaine. Thank you. Well with all the new.
"carol j adams" Discussed on Open Stacks
"Another book on your list that we have. Here's the Amazon's lives and legends of warrior, women across the ancient world by mayor, which you point out sort of combines mythology with history. In order to tell a true account of women warriors. So there's two that are kind of using metaphor or story differently, and I'm curious as a historian, how does story, help either shape and or complicate our sense of history. In so many ways that part of it is a lot of what most of us, hold.
"carol j adams" Discussed on Open Stacks
"I wanted to start though by asking it seems to me that your, your project, your career is in writing, maybe alternative or unexpected histories. But also in a more. We're, we're sometimes needlessly afraid to say accessible way sensible pros that seems like such a cool mission. What about history mix you excited to bring it or present it to more general audience at some level? It's the best stories are. I apologies to all my friends who write novels, but. They're.
"carol j adams" Discussed on WORT 89.9 FM
"Thousand and one Simone who's who inspires you. So I have a lot of things that Eddie around like sting one or two or even three people. I can't my mind goes blank. But I wanted to kind of pick up on what max said earlier about the idea of surrender a lot of the ideas that were kind of working through in our artwork are kind of inspired by Adam Curtis filmmaker who. He's known for a few films in particular. But also has a new cut of episode IX series that takes a look at. Kind of like corporate capitalist systems and global ideas of power and agency and individualism as sort of like illusions within the systems that were kind of thrown up against and he has this film called, hyper normalization that. I feel like you can't view it and not be a little changed by it. It really. It really makes a cute the. The challenges that we face as as, you know, collective humanity is society to that in order to to make change we have to identify and confront power, and that that is incredibly difficult and. Can be very abstract and very scary. And to hear him just kind of like lay out, and sort of just explain why that's difficult and all the stories that we've been told and have been fed and stories that we tell ourselves about our history about who we are as people I think there's just something about there's something really poetic about the way that he speaks even though it's not necessarily posited as poetry. So it's there's just something really beautiful. It's kind of like a montage video montage with narration, and I would encourage anyone listening to to see it. I think it's available to watch online for free. It's called hyper normalization is by Adam Curtis. An maximum. I've been really interested in the work of EMMY breeze, hopper. Dr EMMY Bruce Harper critical race theorists feminist like influential black vegan like powerhouse. She's awesome. And she really gets at the intersection of. Up our day to day kind of actions and our behaviors and writes about like. How the oppression of of animals and on human animals is linked to the oppression of women and how Dr intersecting struggles. And so as as, you know, vegans ourselves, and as people who are kind of exploring our latest work explores the dairy industry. Do we just go off air? We lost a little light. I think that light is just kind of broke it. Okay. That was like a signal like wrap it up Simone the music's playing. Yeah. So I guess like. Yeah. Amy Bruce Harper, Adam Curtis, Carol j Adams. A lot of people a lot of folks, it's an incredibly expensive sort of universe of of work. And I think activism in an artistic context can take so many forms that almost impossible to define. I mean, I think about. Mass spectacle artwork. Like I way way or Oliver, allies and. Covering the German parliament building in life vests or bringing in melting glaciers into downtown London. And that that work has a lot of value. I think people who do our interventions sort of within museum or gallery context. I think about we're just talking about Felix Gonzalez Torres work placebo where people sort of take. Piece of candy from this ongoing installation that ebbs and flows with time. And it's about. His partner struggle and an ultimate death from aids. And, but then I also think about just work happening on a on a, hyper local level, creating opportunities for young people to learn I think about someone like t- banks here in Madison providing opportunities for young people to showcase their talents and receive appear in parent validation for that work, and it's all important, and it's all activists. And it's all right. I mean. Yeah. Someone like t- sorry. Go ahead. Oh, I think. Yeah. Exactly what you're talking about tea, and you're talking about, you know, a playwright who has been creating really exceptional written work was competing at the national level as as an artist as a young person, you know, has has pointed a spotlight at at parts of our local reality that people don't want to pay attention to. And I think you know, that challenging this idea that we are this, you know, per progressive bubble and forcing us to reconcile that with me. You know, our relationship to mass incarceration, our relationship to racial disparities, the the kind of suffering we inflict in the name of of Justice. I think the that those are those are really really complex things to take on as an artist. And there consequences for teas work, which I think is is is something to take into consideration as as folks who want to be effective as folks who want to live in a in a world that is transformed. You know, what is it that you are fighting for and what are the consequences for that fight? What are you? What are you? You know, what are what is what is the pushback around the work that you're doing? And what does that look like? So it's two questions. What are you fighting for? And and what is the pushback around around that fight? Not all at once. I'm down. Deep questions. I'll answer first. Everyone's looking at me. I think I think what I am fighting for like someone asked me the other day. They're they're doing a project about she likes. Specifically is doing a project around black liberation. She was like what would black liberation look like to you. If like black folk were free. What would that smell like what would that look like what sound like and? I very much center. My ideas, I very much think that like if black folk were free that'd be tons of leisure. Like, I literally envisioned like black folks taking naps and growing gardens and laughing joyous and cooking, and and having the space to experience, those types of leisure and pleasure. And so I think a big part of my work, and what I'm fighting for is for folks to be able to like claim pleasure. Claim leisure like claim spaces to think about think about love and to have the time and space to more and to have the time and space to sit with like, really, intense emotions. That's that's really what I'm fighting for like marginalized folk napping and being joyous. Certain kind of reparations emotional rep light we deserve. You deserve deserve to be able to sit and paint and sit in poem. And I don't think there's enough space enough for that. And I think it's a fight. And I think we have to claim it. I think that some of the pushback around my work. I think I have my own tensions around like the vulnerability of what I write about. And so a lot of my pieces come from very personal stories of around trauma around my own identities. And so I think one of the stakes of my work is that I I get left feeling really vulnerable. But also recognize the power in that like people reach out to me. And like because you said this I was able to like think this or feel this or explore this? So. It's a very it's very different consequences. Then I think what you know t- has articulated. But that's, but there are consequences. Bush mcnamara. People who are like we, you know, we don't need that level of policy of life. And we don't need to be advocating for people's rights to be creative. And you know, we wanna per productive society. You're you're offering a a counter narrative, and that's sometime named as indulgent. It's what we should really be fine. It shouldn't fighting for. And I'm like to me. This is the end goal. Yeah. What are you fighting for? Pushback. What are the consequences? You know, personally, and in collaboration with max, we we talk a lot about empathy and compassion, and kindness, and sort of the the desire to to just find joy in love with with people who we know. And who we don't know and hope that our art can. Offer away in for people to to think critically about things that they might not. Otherwise, confront or think about. I think I want for people to feel joy something that you talked about all e or have talked about a lot is idea of the joyful revolution. Like, the revolution is going to be joyful and filled with gratitude and love and leisure. And and it has to be in order for us to continue and to for it to be sustainable for us to like be doing it together. And so I think that that you know, at the end goal is to be making work that is inspiring and optimistic. I think that was kind of a shift in our art making that we recently turned to was to just recognize the power of like of joy and of of making something that looks forward and looks to the future as opposed to strictly commenting on the pastor president. And that we need more of that in our lives. We need more of that imagination and that radical imagination a come through. And so that's something that were. Is a an open question that we're working on right now. Yeah. That's one of my one of my favorite quotes is actually worry is a waste of your imagination. So I think it's devastating. Why we tell ourselves, you know, kind of negativity infused narratives about you know, almost any possibility when we're thinking about like, what are the possibilities? We usually go go to a place of like what could go wrong. And it's such an interesting thing with an activism because I meet folks all the time. I talk about activism on a really regular basis who you know, are very attached to addressing suffering. You know, and making there'd be less suffering in the world, but they are not simultaneously attached to making the world more joyful, and I wonder can you lessen suffering without creating space for pleasure. You know, I think because that is our orientation around suffering is that oh, well, we just need to make things bearable. Honestly. I think that's why we get you know, food programs that provide people food that has no nutritional value. I think you know, we have these very superficial solutions because we're not attached to a world in which everybody is free in a world in which everybody, you know, can can fully embody their dignity. And so I think it's a thing to fight for. Yeah. And can I just add one thing to what you just said it made me think of like superficiality in the arts, and how often times art can be used as like a superficial band aid or a solution like kind of instrumental and made as an instrument to further particular agenda, but like under the guise of art. Right. So I think you know of like the problematic supplies making an education and art washing. Yes. Mexican probably speak speak well to that. But just. You know, that that art is the notion of artists complicated, and that it can be co opted in ways that are regressive incredibly regressive. And I think we have to be, you know. Thoughtful in how we approach teaching art and teaching young people to look at the visual around them, which is like why I love critical media literacy education and why I think that is so important next. Now, we're talking about this earlier like the value of of showing young people and helping people see or make sense of the world around them that is so highly visual and saturated with images and information. It's like we need that to be a really robust part of our public education system. And I hope that that there's a movement right now to increase critical media literacy in schools, and I hope that that continues. Because I think it's early needed. I'm Mike I could say so much about what you just said. But I do want to ask max the question why I want to all of you as equals in the space. So max, what are you fighting for within your within your work as an artist?.
"carol j adams" Discussed on She Who Persisted
"But if it's your politics, if it's part of your identity, your you want to take make the effort to do that. And like even with even with cheese like you can find a place that that treats their animals, well, and where the cheese making is done in an ethical way. Yes. Well, yes invo-. I mean, yeah. Sure, I think still even if it's done in. I mean, the question is what is ethical in the context because to not to produce meat you have to pregnant a cow and take away the call. And then take them the jer the milk from the I'm not sure if that's. True. I mean there are eating vegan cheese. Yes. Ah have. Yeah. And how do you feel about vegan cheese? I think it's nothing to do with cheese. There are some. Well. Yeah. I mean, there was some beacon cheeses that alike. But not as cheese because it's something completely different to me. Okay. And that's the problem that I have with veganism at the moment is that. I- cheese really is the only thing that you cannot substitute. It's the only thing. For me. Like, I e the most of the time like vegan as sets to sometimes a cheese because for all the other things like, I dunno, yo code milk. Whatever I even preferred vegan fashion most of the time. I don't you know, there's nothing. I miss other than chase is the only thing. Okay. So yeah. For me, one of the most influential writers, and this is why want to kind of focus on her today is Carol j Adams again, I said, this is a very personal thing. This is who was really important for me both in veganism in feminism. And I would like to introduce you to Hawaii because why a lot of what I said about determine feminism. I very theoretical to read stuff it becomes very tangible at least meet did. And a lot of what she wrote in a nine hundred thousand might not be as current now as it was back, then so I mean. Of course, a lot of feminist thinking writing happened since then, and the might be a lot of a lot of stuffing books that you find problematic. You know because it's almost that he is late to now. Sure. But I think a lot of things that is about is still there relevant even though there are problematic aspects to it. Yes. I read two books in her teens in the one while the politics of the sexual politics of meat and the pornography of meat, and that's the two books that will mostly talk about. And also, by the way, I will post images on Instagram this for the took about the pornography of me because in that case is also necessary to have visuals to stand. What I'm talking about? Because she very much talks about the aspect of visual objectification of women and how it relates to animal abuse. And it's necessary to see that. When we talk about visual things to actually have pictures in front of you. So Carol she Adams was born in New York in new estate in nine hundred fifty one and she's right feminist animal rights advocate. She attended the university for Russia where she majored in English history. And as an undergraduate she was involved in bringing food studies closest to universities cause cut a log. So she graduate to the with gay nineteen seventy-two and obtain all stuff divinity from meal to school in nineteen seventy six and in two also studied in Boston with Mary Daly, who we already talked about who wrote gyn ecology and Carol to Adam is also a pioneer feminist, Kathy animal ethics and she together with Joseph and donavan. Chew edited a recall the feminist tradition animal ethics. I will not talk about this in detail today. But like like feminist care ethics is whole huge topic in feminist theory. And it's been for a while and just been done of an Carol Chatham's kind of broad an animal human relationship perspective into the whole feminist care ethics debate. So Adams recalls has she's ten to -tarian the following way. She said she. So she she discovered to dead body of pony that was killed in a hunting accident. And then the same day foot Dinna, the family ate hamburgers end..
"carol j adams" Discussed on Sportstalk 790
"The guy co fifteen minutes ago yard fellas a man right there is at the goddamn like the we come out alive from fox sports radio studios and you know what because it's interesting that you talked about the ballgames because the my travels this past week there there were a lot of games i missed has just e nearly as long as early one of their some lay yes it was weird because there were two games there was no ballgame at night and there were two during the day beretta's it that's that's what threw me off that's exactly what now so it's like trying to get in front of the tv you know your holiday is all about family and i'm back in uh the appearance of a win the southeast pennsylvania right now philadelphian the joints i'm with you but i've got i've got just six generations on both side my mom and dad side central pennsylvania europe pennsylvania so i came out early in the weekend and was able to spend time it was so great sin in a my aunts and uncles in my cousins zeman any nieces not all that stuff so as good on um but you kinda miss you can lose sight of other the when everybody's yo sing carols got tons of ya all my aunts miles put it down oh my were they make uh let's see there was there was smothered pork chops which is my favorite smothered pork chops and gravy there was a ribs uh uh chicken a la ham uh those are just meet zina there's probably some other meats i miss an amendment salvage is talking about it we had greens we had um uh them a string beans there was bake macaroni and cheese rice muffins i mean than all the deserts i mean i tell you i'm not i'm not bull in a a look these days miserly big in my stomach i had to full place i was in back to like a fat rhett backed up watching the kids play and they have on the scene all lady sing christmas carols amino adams you would really a place like story bubba that's exactly right so israelis gets up so i i missed i missed.
"carol j adams" Discussed on Stuff Mom Never Told You
"Like your choice to consume or not consume this thing ties into your your your manhood or your matthew you and i and i've seen people make this point which is which is i mean it just so silly that being a vegan man somehow plays interior like sexual vera hourly that you know oh i'm zero mentioned actually because there's research that shows too much consumption of me is connected to performance issue lewis a main wing wing right and so yes if equi that totally goes against the title of this idea that oath if you eat me your if you donate me your girlie man you can't satisfy woman that goes not only is that dumb just because it's a it's a dumb thing but also it just goes against the science well is that there's medical evidence at meat eating does increase a problem problems with clogging of the arteries that can prevent good blood flow chart ends including blood flow to the one oregon you're all thank you and so there is some connection to erectile dysfunction as as induced by too much meat so couldn't be further from the truth there's a book by a very much show article author who a lot of feminist gave a lot of rightful grief to when he named his book me is four was sees septa use the w list these used a p they're not even really control saying that on air but had that was his book he was saying listen i don't wanna be a preaching vegan but here's my macho book about the benefits veganism for us all what was the what was the fallout from that book where people no actually what's been fascinating is he he was i was reading a few articles in which he and carroll j adams were interviewed together couldn't be further from each other on the gender spectrum and he said no the feminists have given me a lot of grief about the title ix book but i stand by it because i've got men writing me from prison talking about the benefits of a plantbased diet i've got men who are who never pick up the carol j adams book the politics of me who are going vegan because of the way i've talked to them and so what's fascinating case to be made for it.
"carol j adams" Discussed on Stuff Mom Never Told You
"Are we supposed to want to have sex with the burger i'm sure people out there do and there's something for everyone but yeah i think it's totally rather is definitely a hyper sexual is like political conversation around me in manhood that carol j adams was really a pioneer and she wrote a book called the sexual politics at me in the nineties it totally holds up today that talks about this mythology of ma'am hunter and masculinity being connected with me i think that's a big part of the reason why and some of the english teenagers who were interviewed about the rise of a veganism amongst teens they're like the three hundred fifty percent increase that we talked about on even one of the young man interviewed for that article in the guardian said i think there's definitely a bit of judgment that i get as a dude whose vegan like vegan men are considered weak or malnourished and that can be further from the truth is evidenced by bodybuilders and super athletes who are plantbased athletes like you can actually google that hashtag to and find meat lists athletes out there shine you that that vegans are just like us you know yeah and i i find that idea that men and i'm sure that's true that men view like they are judged as like less mainly if they don't eat meat mean that's really clear example of the way that the patriarchy hurts us all men it doesn't matter if you're like where you are on the gender spectroanalysis all and that it's so silly that.
"carol j adams" Discussed on Stuff Mom Never Told You
"So they were being primed with this idea that you're about to see something horrific about how animals are slaughtered the men the control group and then the men who were told they were going to watch the video it was stable basically stable the amount of meat that they reported that they would eat on a regular basis but the women who were told primed by saying you're gonna be watching this horrific video you awful mediator person you they reported eating so much less meat because they felt guilty oh yeah well side note though on pita and women yeah they are a constant offender when it comes to their overtly sexist advertising which completely plays into exactly what carol j adams is talking about in terms of the descriptions of meat being used in the disruptions of women's bodies because most of our listeners are probably have probably seen one of these ads where women naked usually are pretending to be me in some kind of way and there was even on a super bowl ad i believe that nbc said no we're not going to show that because it was kind of trying to cut the cheek lead debunked the idea that if you're vegan guy then you're gonna lose putin see in the bedroom so the whole ad was showing this woman who is in like a neck brace and looking like she had been beaten up because her vegan boyfriend was such a you know rock star now and apparently violent in the bedroom because you'd gotten rid of meat.