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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe

MSNBC Morning Joe

09:06 min | 3 months ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe

"Let's turn to facebook. Send sendai independent oversight board and the decision yesterday to uphold the company's ban on former president donald trump's account the twenty member board made its ruling but ultimately handed the final decision back to facebook. The board said the social media site cannot invent new unwritten rules when it suits them and recommended facebook either permanently banned or reinstate trump within six months trump was banned indefinitely for his posts after the january sixth insurrection where he referred to members of the mob as special and patriots join us now longtime journalist carol cadwalader. She's co founder of the real facebook oversight board a group of experts who analyze and critique facebook's content moderation decisions and policies. Carol good morning. it's good to have you on with us. What did you make of the ruling of this. They called an independent board. That handed down the decision about donald trump and basically kicked it down the road a bit and set after six months. It's up to you facebook. Well i'm really glad you called a semi independent cool independent because of course it's not an independent board is a board which was setter falling on facebook points. To all the members they made its terms of reference and essentially. What they were trying to do is sort of. Have this an external body where they could. You know shove off the most difficult decisions it didn't have to deal with and let somebody else tight responsibility for what we've had. Is this situation whether that this vote is come back and said no. Actually this is on you. You've got to tight responsibility. And and they just kicked it right back at them and in many ways. I think that that is this is this is a good thing in this. This total denial of a facebook to just take responsibility for what goes on its platforms is. We've just seen it time and time again and this is this is a this is a this is a huge exalt glove it. So so it's it's it's it's sort of. It's a a. it's a ridiculous false ical situation but it is quite helpful in turns the attention back on facebook. but what's really unhelpful. I think about exit is the kind of solid show going on that takes a that distracts attention from actually the real dangers of facebook. And i've been thinking this morning and actually into the conversation you've just been happening I think is really really important in this context. Because i think it's this what's going on here is allowing facebook once again not owner to its complicity in what happened and essentially i i find it There's making this all about donald trump. what do we do. how do we so appropriate. Like donald trump. Actually the question. Facebook should be asking is. How do we solve a problem like facebook. I think so. Carol off of that last comment you made struck me and i think a lot of people yesterday that the build up to the announcement that we all are hurt and shared in talking about now the build up to that announcement was as a separate government was going to make a statement and it was covered as if facebook was a separate government and perhaps facebook does have the power of a separate government. My question to you is an addict to the point that you just raise. How is it that. With all of this controversy over so many months years. Actually how is it that mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg skate away. From responsibility. Every single time i will eat at that. You've just hit on the head sir. Cutie there because that is what this endeavor is all advance the. It's it sets up a very grandiose award it pays a loss of money. It's got some really incredible people on board and it's clicking. It's dressing in this sort of digital rapper. It colditz A supreme court. And that is a way as you say of taking the spotlight's off knox quebec and sheryl sandberg which is wary should be and onto this sort of side show going on here and and so i'm you know. I think you're absolutely correct. That is that endeavor breath. It's a way of making that concrete giving us all something else to focus on when what we should be talking about. Here is mark zuckerberg and his failure to his. His failures are sort of like take control of his platform and stop these incredibly dangerous and malignant activities. Which we know are going on on roy now and that we saw come to a head so shoot late on january the states and that is that is where our attention needs to be. And as i say. I think i think the real issue here and i think you know i think this four did like they. They have come the have they did. Identify it in a way. Because facebook wouldn't he. They asked facebook questions about That trump's post about the algorithms and about the activities around january states and facebook didn't answer those questions so it wouldn't even answer the questions for the bowl itself had set up. But it's because i think it really is it's complicit it facebook was complicit in what happened and it hasn't reckoned with that and it's refusing to reckon with and margate donald trump is claiming martyrdom at least for another six months over this decision. But obviously he would like and would need nothing more than to be back on facebook platform where he raises a lot of money and pushes out his message. But my question for carol just to turn this back on you is. How do you solve a problem like facebook. How do the american people think about this when we talk about accountability. Why do why do the american people need to rely on a semi independent board to to bring that. Is there something else to do. What is the role for congress for the biden administration here without getting too political if possible. Look we can't rely upon this. this is this is. This is like using songkhla. It's like philip morris setting up the independent tobacco board and sang klein with taking to decide he. We sell cigarettes to know that is not find. We know that this is just a way of avoiding the fact that they cause cancer and essentially what facebook is doing is causing cancer and what is essential for. The american people is to recognize that and to recognize that. You have an urgent critical problem here. And he have to legislate you have to take really tough decisions and this is what you need to be focused on right now said forget. They saw Note they've made some recommendations quite get on with it but what you need to be focused on is the fact that this company which has fought too much power which has off too much influence in your public schools. And what happens in your politics. This needs to be dealt with now because otherwise you're going to be in exactly the same situation in four years time and you know what maybe insurrection be throws it next time you think about how close you were and you think about the role that fakes played in that and you think about the fact that facebook is now trying to cover that up you know. They've done an internal report that they didn't really stat not even letting the employees region. They know that the seal was organized on facebook. They know that. And i think they Let's use this moment as a wake-up cool In that you have to legislate you have to regulate you have to break his company up. No company should have this much power and is dangerous. Yes that's that's the attention you so carol. What's backup there just for a minute. And and just talk about trends in american politics and book actually could make the reinforce some negative trends. You've seen it in this country..

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe

MSNBC Morning Joe

02:17 min | 3 months ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe

"Let's turn to facebook. Send sendai independent oversight board and the decision yesterday to uphold the company's ban on former president donald trump's account the twenty member board made its ruling but ultimately handed the final decision back to facebook. The board said the social media site cannot invent new unwritten rules when it suits them and recommended facebook either permanently banned or reinstate trump within six months trump was banned indefinitely for his posts after the january sixth insurrection where he referred to members of the mob as special and patriots join us now longtime journalist carol cadwalader. She's co founder of the real facebook oversight board a group of experts who analyze and critique facebook's content moderation decisions and policies. Carol good morning. it's good to have you on with us. What did you make of the ruling of this. They called an independent board. That handed down the decision about donald trump and basically kicked it down the road a bit and set after six months. It's up to you facebook. Well i'm really glad you called a semi independent cool independent because of course it's not an independent board is a board which was setter falling on facebook points. To all the members they made its terms of reference and essentially. What they were trying to do is sort of. Have this an external body where they could. You know shove off the most difficult decisions it didn't have to deal with and let somebody else tight responsibility for what we've had. Is this situation whether that this vote is come back and said no. Actually this is on you. You've got to tight responsibility. And and they just kicked it right back at them and in many ways. I think that that is this is this is a good thing in this. This total denial of a facebook to just take responsibility for what goes on its platforms is. We've just seen it time and time again and this is this is a this is a this is a huge exalt glove it. So so it's it's it's it's sort of. It's a a. it's a ridiculous false ical situation but it is quite helpful in turns the attention back on

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Facebook's Trump Ban Upheld by Oversight Board for Now

MSNBC Morning Joe

02:18 min | 3 months ago

Facebook's Trump Ban Upheld by Oversight Board for Now

"Let's turn to facebook. Send sendai independent oversight board and the decision yesterday to uphold the company's ban on former president donald trump's account the twenty member board made its ruling but ultimately handed the final decision back to facebook. The board said the social media site cannot invent new unwritten rules when it suits them and recommended facebook either permanently banned or reinstate trump within six months trump was banned indefinitely for his posts after the january sixth insurrection where he referred to members of the mob as special and patriots join us now longtime journalist carol cadwalader. She's co founder of the real facebook oversight board a group of experts who analyze and critique facebook's content moderation decisions and policies. Carol good morning. it's good to have you on with us. What did you make of the ruling of this. They called an independent board. That handed down the decision about donald trump and basically kicked it down the road a bit and set after six months. It's up to you facebook. Well i'm really glad you called a semi independent cool independent because of course it's not an independent board is a board which was setter falling on facebook points. To all the members they made its terms of reference and essentially. What they were trying to do is sort of. Have this an external body where they could. You know shove off the most difficult decisions it didn't have to deal with and let somebody else tight responsibility for what we've had. Is this situation whether that this vote is come back and said no. Actually this is on you. You've got to tight responsibility. And and they just kicked it right back at them and in many ways. I think that that is this is this is a good thing in this. This total denial of a facebook to just take responsibility for what goes on its platforms is. We've just seen it time and time again and this is this is a this is a this is a huge exalt glove it. So so it's it's it's it's sort of. It's a a. it's a ridiculous false ical situation but it is quite helpful in turns the attention back on

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on On The Media

On The Media

08:00 min | 8 months ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on On The Media

"As a guarantor of independent governance has only now this month revealed. Its first so-called cases for consideration at transcends. The only thing that saves the is allowing this to adjudicate on is take down decisions. There's all of these other cases which just do not qualify. The facebook says kennel be heard. By the board impeding. The issue will actually stays on face. The carol cadwalader is a journalist for the guardian and the observer who became a pulitzer finalist last year for her reporting when the cambridge analytic scandal. Late this year. She became a co founder of the self-proclaimed facebook oversight board shadow court organized by academics and advocates to actually address the harms. I've mentioned a few weeks back. They announced their first three cases number one former trump campaign manager and former cambridge analytic aboard. Vice president steve bannon. And not the steve bannon on face that light cooled for the beheading of dr fauci. He said that he wanted to see his head. Owns like a nazi people by any reasonable standard would say that. That is in breach of facebook's earned terms conditions and he should have been struck off the sides that didn't happen and nausea guy much resistance. You can argue that head on a pike is more colloquialism than threat but there is no arguing that facebook at its worst isn't isn't machine. We can look at the pogrom against muslim rohingya in myanmar ginned up by the nation's military on facebook and carried out by buddhists nationalists who were given free basic internet access by facebook in its attempt to corner the internet market there or consider for another example the deadly shooting this summer in kenosha wisconsin. That key question here is how do people like kyle rittenhouse. No to go to canossa. On the night of august the twenty fifth the loved ones of those who died in kenosha say facebook is partly to blame for allowing posts that were mobilising militias and activating white supremacists specifically this event hosted by the militia group. Kenosha guard asking for patriots to take up arms and defend kenosha from evil thugs. Some users responded with open threats of violence one writing. I fully plan to kill looters and rioters tonight. Concerned users reported the page but facebook did not take it down. It was largely an operational mistake. The contractors no the reviewers who the initial complaints were funneled to didn't take the start if luxembourg's mistakes were made. Excuse sounds familiar. That's what nixon spokesman said to still facebook is among the defendants in a federal lawsuit from four people who protested that night including the surviving partner of the late. Anthony huber hannah giddings overseeing how studies using people on incredibly brave and he was unarmed to try and tackle him and he was shot dead. You know hannah feels that. Facebook is complicit in miss white supremacist. Violence is the equivalent of the meeting house. Wise supremacist matt's up. And swap nights and announced wedding be converging and advertise for recruits. And you know to talk about the fact that had the going is the result of operational mistake. It's just so dehumanizing the plaintiffs will to settle for a federal court of law because facebook's six court will give them no hearing nor will be censored critics of authoritarian regimes have their day in facebook court. And so there's is the real oversight boards second case the at phnom has threatened to shut down facebook in the country if the social media giant refuses to bow to government pressure and sensor more political content on its platform. The company complied with the government request in april to increase censorship of anti-state posts for some sixty million vietnamese users facebook face with a billion pounds of lost revenue comply with that wishes. And they've taken down the accounts of these journalists and dissidents in terms conditions of facebook's disciples that these people are not allowed to appeal to the board. I think it raises a really interesting case about the relationship between authoritarian governments and facebook and compromises and back green deals being made. I think the loss of other countries around the world are looking at. What's happened in vietnam. And so the saying something that they might want to try and future other countries and as it turns out facebook itself when cud walters wheel oversight board was launching the company. She says tried to stifle their free speech by big footing a nonprofit donor face the discovered that is projects. The real bedside was in progress and a guy from using corporates communications. Ryan our funders on tonight and around the basically almost why. They were founding this and suggested that they shouldn't be and they were quite shocked by that. We were quite show. Not because you know the remember. The voters many independent on facebook here. We have the kind of this heavying coming from facebook. Trying to cut off the funding of us even knew you know journalistic enterprise it you know is on the cool pro bullying and then it's gone from there actually. Our website got teichmann internet as a result of the takedown notices on facebook. They came to us and told us not was an accident. So many accidents and also for cadwalader sort of heartbreak over the very existence of facebook's oversight panel the members she says are respectable scholars yet they have signed onto an enterprise of limited scope crossed with red lines. I really worry institutional hatcher. I worry about tech money everywhere you know. I worry about the facts. They weren't even reveal how much the peak being paid. I worry about the fact that one of the most preeminent first amendment scholars in america robot post is being paid two hundred thousand dollars a year to be one of its trustees. I worry about that. They go ahead the human rights school in knoxville university. The another trustees the know all across america their academics at universities. You if they don't depend upon money they depend upon access to data or access to be able to research so there is a whole industry which is supporting big check. There is very small colored. The other day by emily bell She said what would happen. Everybody just withdrew that labor from the patterns of all of these academics and journalists and ngos just ignored them. Put that tools. Dan only fact checking organizations. You know they all lend it to the homes. We.

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Gaslit Nation with Andrea Chalupa and Sarah Kendzior

Gaslit Nation with Andrea Chalupa and Sarah Kendzior

15:39 min | 1 year ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Gaslit Nation with Andrea Chalupa and Sarah Kendzior

"Nine nine million pounds nine million parents which I know that doesn't same big numbers in American terms but this is the biggest ever political donation that has ever been made in the UK and of course Karaoke had waller has been looking heavily into whether many came from and there's been so little transparency transparency. He's obviously been investigated by the Financial Services Agency. Authority multiple investigations into our banks have still not turned up the original source of that money. It seems very suspicious. Considering that the emails that you revealed show Oh Aaron banks hitting up Cambridge ANALYTICA for cash for fund raising help and Cambridge. ANALYTICA is founded not just by Steve Bannon but his patron at the time. Robert Mercer. The billionaire the far-right American oligarch and so if Aaron banks has nine million alien pounds sitting around of his own money that he could put in to this far-right leave dot. Edu Effort launching him into the stratosphere of the historic highest donor of all time the U. K.. Why the hell would he need fundraise? Then well let's very good question. He he was basically broke the time. All the evidence shows that his diamond mines weren't particularly functional and weren't making an awesome money. He had to take out loans and been bailed out in his his company. So it's very strange that suddenly he has this huge amounts some money to put to political causes so we need very badly to know whether money came from and unfortunately we haven't had a holistic investigation investigation into the brexit campaign without that. You have all these little tiny investigations of one thing here another thing and unfortunately you don't then get to see the entirety of what happened when your investigating what might be you know. Questions of large scale corruption or funding of campaigns potentially coming from other countries. This is a huge investigation. That is needed. That is encompassing different jurisdictions and so forth and in order to do that you need the politicians to get behind it and to force a lease inquiry. Unfortunately we haven't had the political will to do that yet and what the problem is that. What's the media have really not got behind this? They've not been shouting for the investigation. The public don't know the truce of the facts that have been revealed old in the British using quiry and the other investigations and getting away with it and experts like yourself and Carol cod wallet or are are left off of the BBC where they could broadcast this to the public. We have this kind of fake balance which the BBC engages and there was a story just the other day on the sixth of November I think published by the BBC where they were talking about the Cambridge illicit fair and they describe nobody has the data was claimed to have been sold to Cambridge Analytica. Well this is stuff. That's been proven for a long time. And they still just saying it was claimed and then including the company's denials well that's unacceptable when we have huge amounts of evidence and the ICAO. The Information Commissioner's office who oversee Richardson nor have produced stints reports the British fake news inquiry in that final report. They revealed that looks like Cambridge. Olympic is data was actually access from Russia. Well how the hell was. It's not happening. We need a much fuller explanation. And we absolutely have to enact policy that will ensure election action to secure rapidly and the trouble is. We don't have time. Because we have an election on the twelfth of December which Boris Johnson has obviously obviously delayed and then try to shut down parliament. He's now got this election coming which is probably going to win. Because he's as hard. The government basically has put two thousand pounds into pumping out propaganda in favour of brexit coming from the government itself so this basically is selling him and his deal and all of this so he's guessing an extra leg up by the fact that you know he's empower gala unfortunately the BBC doesn't seem to want to tell the facts as they stand. They have equivocated constantly because they are nervous about brexit and the problem is that both of our political main political parties have constituencies and their voters voters many of them actually voted for Brexit. And unfortunately there's an awful lot of nervousness around it. We have people people making the argument that basically the people have spoken and this was democracy and they don't want to undermine that but this is a false argument because obviously the election the referendum was basically stolen it was fraudulent and we have huge mats proof of that but unfortunately fortunately the lobby for brexit against migration in the UK has been built up over many many years mentioned before for the book on Bad News for Refugees which are rights that was prior to the refugee crisis even and prior to Brexit. And even back then we had all of these. I think tanks that were policing essentially the media and two minutes you say something that questions. This narrative the migrant prince sought blame. You have these think tanks obviously are very well funded and pushing adds huge amounts of propaganda into the media. They have their spokespeople people and unfortunately a lot of the time. The media haven't been ready to identify the nature of the sources that presenting. So they they won't necessarily tell you that this is anti immigration. Think tank or that. The money is coming from those kinds of elite sources. They will just present them as they wished to be. Heard and that is deeply crop the Masek because it's not. They're not doing that job. We had a American an American far-right idiot on British. Telly being interviewed. I forget his name one of these far-right clowns and he got destroyed. He got destroyed droid and we can play a clip of that turning sir on Judeo Christian values in this look what are the values that studying. It's back on I. I'm not inclined to continue in an interview with a person is badly motivated as you as an interview or so. I think we're done here. I appreciate at your time. All right well thank you for your time and for showing that anger is not part of America. Not Mr Shapiro. We'll say goodbye but what really surprised me. Is I feel like you're British. Newscasters or your British interviewers. They have no problem taking are idiots to task but they seem a little bit reluctant. It didn't taking your idiots to task. That's the trouble is these idiots are often quite popular and the problem. Is that the broadcasters. Generally we are a lot better in the UK. Then I would say they all in the US because they're not allowed to be partisan in the same way the the US broacasters on however that does also mean you get this false balance quite often. So when it comes to the Brexit side side of things they'll be presenting the argument that Oak Cambridge Analytica. This was claimed and then this was denied. Well I'm sorry facts to a proven in the end. Okay so you can no longer keep saying that however in our press we have a very very highly partisan on press and the Daily Mail has the highest circulation and this is what people read and consume and this has been the case for a long long time that this extremely far-right press has been producing disinformation. And when I say disinformation I mean disinformation fake fake news for many years and gets away with it whereas Carol cadwalader oviously is inundated by people like arum banks and soul on her critics many critics whenever she puts an article or opens her mouth. You know. She's he's currently facing legal action. Can I mean. Can you imagine that the policing that they do with the funding that they have to the media this way. There's no way that would actually be allowed in the US with the First Amendment protections but in the UK. You have things like defamation and libel to worry about and so people have to be very very careful what they say. And this was revealed as well in Chris. WYLIE's release Chris. Wiley is the whistle blower from Cambridge. He's a young kid died hair punkish punk rock style. He was an employee of Cambridge Analytica. And he blew the whistle he. He testified before your government on their corruption and manipulation and recommended other people for the government to speak with including Brittany Kaiser who is an interesting character. Herself that we can get into. I'm so what did Chris Wiley do for Cambridge Politica he basically was this contractor with aggregates. IQ So he sort of started. The project on the gathering of the facebook data rooms are. Here's a contractor. Not An employee. Yes he was working working with aggregate so I do and he was there at the very birth of the Cambridge Analytica company but seal group the parent company had been around ran for a long time before that and it was full on militarize propaganda. That's how Cambridge Linda was born. Seal Group yes. I had known them years so before. Oh Chris Wind even joined the firm I was interviewing. Seal Group the parent company and they were already developing a lot of these kinds of tools and targeting using personality and so on. They were experimenting before he came along. Basically these people then wanted to set up a company that would they get them into the American market because that was seen as highly lucrative as they're also as a route to getting more commercial work so they were setting up this new company what I was going to say about Carol cadwalader in the county and obviously Chris whiny headset in his recent book that the story around Cambridge analytic working with Pailin. Tia got sensit- by The Guardian due to Eric Schmidt's writing in uncomplaining about his daughter. Getting mentioned as she apparently made that introduction so the nervousness I think of even the Guardian which I did the best reporting ever. Amin Cower. CADWALADER was amazing I was there for that whole period. She's fantastic and she's so supportive supportive of her sources protective of them but no journalistic organizations are free if these kinds of threats and unfortunately what we've seen is asleep multibillion dollar expansion of the influence industry these companies are making money off of digital analytics of lobbying of reshaping our social world really. These companies are so powerful and at the same time. Journalism is in decline because there is not enough money going into doing good reporting of the kind we saw last year. And what's very sad is what Sarah and I always talk about at least privately. Anyway is our fear that journalism just in our lifetimes alone has completely crumbled and you have so many excellent journalists who were pushed out in two. You totally different industries. Excellent editors that are forced to work in different into a new industries and one fear. We have all this talent could easily get scooped up to working to think tanks and at the think tanks. They get absorbed in that culture of that. Think tank and I think tank could be funded by some Blood money oligarch somewhere aware. Who wants to push a certain narrative under some gleam of respectability so it is very dangerous? And that is the cautionary tale of Brittany Kaiser. A young woman that that is at the center of the Great Hack. She went from working and human rights. She worked for the Obama campaign on Obama's facebook facebook page in two thousand eight. She was part of that. Social Media. Feel good idealism driven revolution that Obama brought in as the first social media president and then with the two thousand eight crash the fallout of that the was her family. Her family hit hit hard times a few years later. It was a major tragedy for her family. How they were economically hit by the fall of two thousand eight and so she was was forced to get a job? You know not in human rights which barely pays but she got scooped up by the very charming Alexander Knicks the CEO of Cambridge Regina Liga. WHO said to her? I WanNa get you drunk and hear your secrets and what he wanted to do to your point was here. You had this militarized propaganda firm that was doing doing heavy heavy business and they wanted to have an arm which was Cambridge el-agha that could sell itself to the American political class. US In the British political class and here comes handsome Alexander Knicks wooing. A young impressionable vulnerable woman who needed a career needed stability and and had the credibility of having worked as part of Obama's big social media wave in two thousand eight and scooped her up and she became central central central to that entire operation and she in fact was the link bringing together Cambridge analytic on the trump campaign. She completely flipped. I know obviously Britain. Hi is I would say that. She certainly was in a very very difficult position and moved to work for this new company. Go to great great Alpha. But she's also very intelligent person who also owns her mistake and no near. Why think what she was doing? What she was was getting involved with? There are also other people in that company that we're not focusing on enough. The problem is we're spending all this time talking about the whistle whistle blowers and we're not talking about the people who are getting away with it right now. What we really need to be doing is focusing on them and horrifying spread of that company around the world and by the way that was one of the smallish companies in this kind of business?.

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Recode Decode

Recode Decode

01:47 min | 2 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Recode Decode

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Unorthodox

Unorthodox

11:23 min | 2 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Unorthodox

"I mean, really it is one of the survival stories involving digging tunnels young women new mothers digging tunnels with their hands. They bring through a kind of ferocity. That's. Hard to put into words. That's you know, everything's going to be taken away from you. You have to constantly think like an emigrant never go soft. She says, don't wait for someone to let you into Harvard you have to take it, and that was sort of the idea there. How can you sort of eliminate that a little more, because Michael Kohn has pointed out? He's from a family, holocaust survivors. That's part of the reason he feels like or at least in his statement of penance, he says by working for a racist, Donald Trump. He betrayed his family in a certain way, as usual the holocaust looms large over families like the Cohen's, the cedars, the Kushner's tell us a little bit more about that not just being Russian Jewish. Because in particular coming from families drivers, I mean, it's an important question. I think it's so tricky. Right. Because first of all, there's this very broad question of who's a survivor and who's not. And that's something we've talked about on our podcast on orthodox. Right. And I actually don't know the Coen family story. Specifically, there are people who will say, and I'm not judging. I'm not prejudging any of these particular narratives. I'm not from family survivors. From a family on both sides of very fortunate people who came here long before the holocaust, and, and we don't know the names of any of our distant cousins who were lost. So it's, it's not really my co-host. Stephanie Budnick her grandparents are survivors, and she's I take to be much more on these topics. It's very tricky. Like first of all, is everyone who was in Europe. And who would have died had. They not gotten out a survivor. You know, if you saw what was coming, and in nineteen thirty eight you manage to get out to Australia. Are you a survivor? If you were on the kindertransport, and you've got to England as a child, but we're never in the camps. Are you a survivor? Are you only survivor if what if you were in a ghetto, but never in one of the camps or you'll live if you're in one of the camps. Right. I don't quarrel with anyone who says they survived the trauma of the holocaust looms, very, very large. I always wanna make the point to people who are criticizing Israel, or having any discussion about Israel that you're talking about a country that not exclusively, but heavily was settled by people who just narrowly escaped genocide, and we have to imagine building a country with people who narrowly escaped genocide right? And then wondering then wondering why they're concerned when their political opponents say things about wiping out the Jews why they don't just say, oh, that's just political rhetoric right? Now for Michael Cohen growing up in the five times, of Long Island to say, well, the holocaust made me do it. I think is pretty not that he said quite like that, but it's pretty sick. Right. Because actually know the holocaust memory of the hottest didn't make you do it, also, you grew up on island. Also, there are many many, many people who had very close brushes with death who ended up in freelance, then led beautifully ethical and generous spirited lives. And so the fact that you didn't Michael having grown up amongst creature comforts on island, the fact that you chose to be a bad person if we all believe in free will, then that's pretty much on, you, I will say in his statement to congress when he says, you know, he gives these three reasons that he was wrong to worked for Trump. I Trump is a racist and this will bring us, by the way to recede to late and the broader conversation about anti semitism, in, in congress, and racism, but the reason he gives for now regretting having worked for Trump. Whom he defines first and foremost as a racist. So he's he even though those aren't the things that, you know, got Cohen in trouble with him, the lying the campaign finance, all those things, the exaggeration of his resources, the diminishment of his fortunes, all that lying is not the first thing that makes Michael Cohen feel like he's betrayed his family and working for Trump. It's his racism and its racism toward black, people not his antisemitism, but somehow the connection draws might be just as tenuous as what you spelled out, but is that as the child of survivors, that, that's where he broke bad that he could have been Trudeau his family and not worked for racist. And then he gives examples of the racist language Trump us, but instead he you know, he broke bad and essentially, I mean, it seems as though you broke the tradition he gave Hitler posthumous victory. He married you know, outside the faith, whatever it sounds like that a little bit more than it, does our family was traumatized by the holocaust. So I became a bad person. It's interesting there, because that's something you hear among. Liberal social Justice minded Jews, allot, which is that our own history should make us less likely to be racist toward others. I'm not sure that empirically. I mean, a I'm not sure it's true. I mean the Torah says it right. You know because were strangers in a strange land. Right. So you, we special a special receptivity to, to welcoming and caring for the stranger. And by the way, the stranger the word for stranger is the same as the word for convert gear. Right. Which is stranger joint might decide to join us and be amongst us. And that's something we honor strangers are always they might have Jewish souls. And even if they don't we have to treat them kindly, that is a social Justice narrative to which as do I subscribe, you know, it's interesting that Michael Cohen as sort of like mercenary. Republican affiliated crook reach for that one. It strikes me as maybe opportunistic because he knows that it has a certain kind of purchase in BMC Halsall liberal America. But as an empirical matter, lots of holocaust survivors, like lots of all human beings are racists and looked. No one could turn cones on its head and say when you nearly been wiped out by a specific ethnic group, it causes you to think in broadly, ethnocentric terms. There are certainly there's certainly lots of holocaust survivors, who would never buy anything made by Germans again, and many of them whose brush with death leads them to think in pretty black and white terms about the possibility of peace with the world, and that those are perfectly understandable reactions to a brush with death. So, you know, I think Coen reached for a particular narrative there, but I don't know that I think that I'm sort of willing to normally say that it's a good narrative. Right. Mean it definitely was very patterned. Sim, dad just want to sit with you and go through his whole statement because it's sort of thing, if even wrote it, if it wasn't his PRT Marotta. Exactly. Lanny Davis team. It led to. And this sort of goes to this point of we'll how can Trumpy anti semitic? If he has choosing the family it led to Mark meadows. I don't know if you remember this, it's sort of trotting out a low level staffer of Trump's who happens to be black, and saying, he can't be racist because this woman is here. Delay of took umbrage at that and said, this kind of tokenism is ridiculous. Right. And then Mark meadows got weepy and said, how can you call me a racist? And then turns for like turn for absolution to alleged Cummings to say, like, you know, forgive me father can't you tell them a great, great guy, 'cause I've suffered in different ways, and thus I'm not racist and alleged coming started like pro forma said you're alright. Mar Mark meadows. And it was like, he, he, he like briefly felt like a black man and told him he was okay. And he sort of sit in that That was was such such a. a theater that was because my God, the combination of, you know, Elijah Cummings law, the moral thirty were shaded to lay new in the new in the congress, and, you know, making her bones Mark meadows. Please father forgive me for the, the racism of my people. And, and then Michael kind of, it's in his weird way presiding over all of it as like having the moral authority of holocaust surviving family was just about as weird toget- seven part podcast on it, and so diverse from policy from serving the American people, you know, like, who cares. I cared not a wit about any of it. Yes, exactly. It did show me though, how much white men in congress. Among Republicans continue to need to both express their racism and be constantly forgiven for it, and absolved of it, which is just really asking a lot to me. It shows sort of the lack of utility of these words. Right. I mean. I mean, certainly someone certainly a lot of the Republican people in congress men and women, and some Democrats have to be called out for their bigotry at this point. Sadly, the words racist anti Semite have lost a ton of meaning and that's partly the fault of its its the phone to people in the right. And the left actually, I mean, there are things that people in the left call racist, which are not racist. I mean, there's certain policy disagreements now which they will say are racist, because they perceive structural racism in taking particular policy position. And so they're using a term that used to have real opprobrium for, for human beings who practiced preached bigotry, if in fact, like overturning Obamacare's active racism, then, you know, all of a sudden, like every vote you cast is potentially racist. And I mean I longed for the days when it when these terms meant something, a little more specific about the way a human being conducted themselves, but we've probably lost those, those meanings, I talked to Carol Cadwalader about this information was reminded that language around race is hyper arousing, and anti semitism. I can even feel. Cortisol rising in me when I'm trying to find my way talking about him you live in this space where you talked about the things that, you know, most make people swoon and blow up. And, you know, just get right out there like lizard, brains. But the hyper arousing language around race. And I think you know, not to dwell on this, too. If you see this in Mark meadows, are you calling me a racist? This has something to do with my child something. I don't know what it was. But he just became dissolved, and that language, hyper rousing language because we're biological humans who likes to emulate spreads really fast. It's really hard to reduce. I think this MIT study. Yes, said that to the extent that something discuss you or just, you know, just gets you on your high horse, you know. Like, are you saying that because I'm a woman or Jewish, you know, just it's like a mortal threat to some extent. People wanna live in that register they just want the sensation of it. It's very addictive. And we live in a society that will ply all the time. I mean, I think my big thing these days, I'm. Always thinking back to, you know, twenty years ago twenty five years ago and how much less aroused we were all the time. Yes. That I always I make the point that, you know, when I first got out of college and, you know, about the time you did. I think, and we were writing pieces as sort of young journalists you publish something in the new Republic, or whatever it would run in prints. And then you wouldn't get any response for three weeks until they would tell you, well, the reform letters to the editor. And, you know, then one of the send you the letters editor in the mail, maybe they'd fax them to you maybe niece and Email, and then one of the letters would one of the letters would run in the print magazine and maybe get to write a response to it. And then it would all disappear. Never to be heard from again. That was limited cycle. That was the cycle of call and response in the journalism world in nineteen ninety six ninety seven ninety eight and early years internet. And, and that meant I mean, remember he was to turn to the letter section of the New York review of books and see, like who's whom. Who's attacking whom from from a month ago? Remember, when, you know, yes, Elaine scary wrote that piece a month ago. Oh my God. Let's see what Steven pinker had to say about it. And that was exciting. It was thrilling. Yes. It was very you know, my steamed colleague, kind of writing. Right, right. It was not mother of any children. Don't have rain damage or like watch out. I'm going to do something disgusting to you, which is the level of collegiality right now..

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway

Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway

02:15 min | 2 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway

"All the, the, the drek and toxins that flows over the Facebook platform, he's, he's gonna talk about that, and more, where are you going to be where where's your where's your destination? You know, I don't like it, and it makes me feel insecure. When you bring him people more credible and more talented than me. An article is great. That was a hell of an article good good stuff on where are you going to be? So are you traveling more in Greece? I had to agree on Saturday morning how interesting because I'm coming to France tomorrow. What are you doing in France CARA? I'll just miss you. I'm taking my lovely girlfriend on a big. And then I'm and then I'm going to Brussels to talk to the Brussels regulators. I'm going to London to do podcasts was all kinds of powerful people. They are possible. Carol cadwalader. I'm going to be doing a lot of work too. Besides muscle, Jordan, Peres, God, bringing impress in your new girlfriend, with France, and then heading to Brussels to do some high end your saucy little minx. You're trying to show off. You're throwing your batters out there. You're like I'm a peacock checkout. Mommy checkout. Mommy. This is good. This is I think, I'll just giving some oil stirs speaks, French fluently. So that's gonna be fun. Of course. Sakon properly. All right. Neither of us should should be in Paris in any way. But, but she can go it'll be nice. I'll just be quiet next to eat Kreps quietly in the corner. Anyway, thank you got a week. You're gone, put help back. You man. That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me do mean that to really mean that, yes I do. I hope oh, that makes me feel nice. I feel warm all over, you know, I'm just trying to lull. You know just go. And hang out with Charleston had a hard year. Children, Cheryl and share share. A Rosa was Charleston. You know, it's been hard, it's been hard. It's been hard on me. You can pay for with libra very short with libra. It's all going to be, it's all you make Scott have a good time. Thank you so much, Camilo Salazar, produced our show today. Nishad Kerr is pivots executive producer. Thanks. Also, Eric Johnson. Thanks for listening to pivot from box media will back next week for another breakdown of all things tech, and business, make.

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Gaslit Nation with Andrea Chalupa and Sarah Kendzior

Gaslit Nation with Andrea Chalupa and Sarah Kendzior

04:01 min | 2 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Gaslit Nation with Andrea Chalupa and Sarah Kendzior

"The report also spells out new. Tales about how Kalinic pushed a plan to enlist Manafort support for a peace plan in eastern Ukraine after the Russian invasion of Crimea under that plan Janaka which would serve as head of a newly Thomas region in Ukraine Kalinic, push metaphor to secured Trump support. If he was elected they discussed this peace plan for months, so Yanukovych the ousted Putin puppet. President Ukraine forced an Exxon Russia would have gotten a sweet deal for himself out of this metaphor and Kalinic had been successful. As always said Russia's attack on our democracy in two thousand sixteen always felt to me like the bigger bolder sequel to Ukraine's revolution, Putin's revenge, according to Muller. A Manafort longtime consultants Yanukovych would have been the special Representative to manage this peace process. According to Email Kalinic wrote to Manafort, December eighth two thousand sixteen as Trump was getting ready to take office Manafort Kalinic continue to communicate into twenty eighteen long after Manafort had been. Rested sections of molars report about Manafort, his relationship with Olympic have been redacted leaving a lot more questions to be answered. Hopefully by congressional investigations. Let's now go to speaking of congress, let's zero in on der pasta and some of his highlights from the Miller report from Bloomberg der POSCO used metaphor to install friendly political officials in countries where there pasta had business interests molars report says citing an FBI interview with manafort's former right hand, man. Rick gates at the same time. He worked for pasta metaphor advise pro-kremlin politicians and Ukraine where he helped victory Eneco which win the presidency in two thousand ten men are also grew close to several wealthy businessmen in Ukraine, the relationship between manifold dare pastas soured. After dare pasta invested twenty six million in a failed cable television. Venture backed by Manafort and gates, the billionaire later sued the men. After you had a kovic fled to Moscow and twenty fourteen metaphor gates and Kalinic began to work for a party known as the opposition bloc. But that work petered out as well by the time Manafort joined the Trump campaign on an unpaid basis in March twenty sixteen he had quote, no meaningful income, but believe that reviving his US career could help him in the future. According to report Manafort said that joining the campaign would be quote, good for business gates told Muller gates also said that Kalinic and Manafort discussed how to use the appointment to try to collect his Ukrainian political debts and persuade their pasta drop his litigation. Well, all right. So Manafort was willing to sell out democracy, of course, for his own enrichment. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty much falls into a pattern with the whole tired Trump clan. And how they operate as we've been saying on the show. Now, this is what makes that recent vote in congress allowing der POSCO's sweet sanctions. All the more nefarious der POSCO's been trying for years to get into the US to be off the US blacklist and molar centrally points to that. And this report remember what Welsh investigative journalists. Carol Cadwalader told us in her interview with gasoline nation called Brexit and Trump are the same crime conservative British MP's are impotent and stopping Brexit impart because they're wearing der POSCO's golden handcuffs der pasta enjoys legitimacy in the UK throwing his money around. It's been reported that for years he tried to gain a foothold in the US where he's been blacklisted essentially for corruption like the corrupt and violent tactics that made him the winner of Russia's bloody aluminum wars of the nineteen nineties and for being close to Putin. Dear pasta may finally chief has long held dream of being openly welcomed in the US and gain a strong foothold here. Thanks to Republicans after the Republican led Senate allowed the lifting of sanctions of his company Roussel as long as they're Apostol..

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on This Week in Tech

This Week in Tech

04:25 min | 2 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on This Week in Tech

"Sent private mental health information out to third parties, including in some cases, food diaries, health, diary, self reports about substance abuse associated with user names. This was published Friday in the journal of American Medical socio network open. So these apps and we've seen this again. This isn't the first time in the Wall Street Journal also reported that flow the menstrual app was telling third parties when women were on there. Periods. Not just any artist but their employers. Oh, oh, yes. Okay. Though, so explains the rise of all the like pregnancy tracking apps and everything to like there is the big business in collecting the state and selling it and really not telling people. What's happening? I yeah. I feel like consumers have to be more where the fact that they can't really trust all these random apps that they're playing with even if they look nice and sleek on their iphones or something. Half the apps did not disclose third party data sharing nine apps had no privacy policy at all. Okay. Well, don't download those five did. But didn't but lied. They say the data would be share this way, three apps, actively said this kind of data sharing would not happen. Those last three. According to the verge stood out to Stephen Channa physician, the veterans affairs Palo Alto healthcare system. Who says they're basically lying. They're lying. They're saying, oh, no. You notice blows a lot of times they say it and kind of anodyne language like under the third party sharing. We share with third parties to make our app work better. Yes. In other. So we get paid more. So we can continue to make this app better or whatever, you know. So this is the point. Yeah. And this is not that particular thing has been happening. The the quantum time. Like, I remember reporting on. Face facebook. Sorry, pay pals user agreement which is like, it's it's fifty thousand woods Lona was at one point. You know, it's longer than some novels, and the fact is you can defend in coin us. They will look we had this here in this document that you agree to and the fact is that it's technically, okay? Even though the document is fifty thousand woods long in written complex, legal ease that no real person can understand. And as you know, there's a need for a change. That's going down the route of GDP L, which I'm thinking everyone's kind of bold with at this point. But but yet these terms and conditions very very problematic. I think it's it. It's boring. I guess in our circles, but DD PR were asking what we need. How do we stop these companies? And really, that's that's it. It's not perfect, but it's a start towards like really focusing on privacy in data, and what it means to users promoting, you know, easily understandable, easer agreements and really. Making sure people are aware of what these companies are doing. We definitely need something. Like that in America. We're getting some side benefit to it. Because now everybody has to update for that. But now it's personal privacy. Now, it's a little bit more of a three alarm fire as Carol Cadwalader points out because the state is also being used to suborn democracy. It's being used by the Russians in the United States and the in the UK to change election results. And that seems to me pretty serious matter at this point. Yeah. She called it the largest election fraud in the UK in one hundred years. It's people to wrap their heads. Even for me to read my heads around it because it isn't like you broken voting machines and change the tally. It's much more subtle than that. But as we learned from the Muller report, the Russians were organizing rallies in the United States that, you know, appear to be patriotic Americans, and in fact were Russian actors, you know, using even Craigslist for that since sane. Yeah. And so I I wonder I don't know I talked to people non tech people with different political views of mine, obviously, a raging liberal, and they don't seem to be too convinced by any of this. Yeah, they're not worry..

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Your health app might share your data without telling you

This Week in Tech

04:10 min | 2 years ago

Your health app might share your data without telling you

"Published Friday in the journal of American Medical socio network open. So these apps and we've seen this again. This isn't the first time in the Wall Street Journal also reported that flow the menstrual app was telling third parties when women were on there. Periods. Not just any artist but their employers. Oh, oh, yes. Okay. Though, so explains the rise of all the like pregnancy tracking apps and everything to like there is the big business in collecting the state and selling it and really not telling people. What's happening? I yeah. I feel like consumers have to be more where the fact that they can't really trust all these random apps that they're playing with even if they look nice and sleek on their iphones or something. Half the apps did not disclose third party data sharing nine apps had no privacy policy at all. Okay. Well, don't download those five did. But didn't but lied. They say the data would be share this way, three apps, actively said this kind of data sharing would not happen. Those last three. According to the verge stood out to Stephen Channa physician, the veterans affairs Palo Alto healthcare system. Who says they're basically lying. They're lying. They're saying, oh, no. You notice blows a lot of times they say it and kind of anodyne language like under the third party sharing. We share with third parties to make our app work better. Yes. In other. So we get paid more. So we can continue to make this app better or whatever, you know. So this is the point. Yeah. And this is not that particular thing has been happening. The the quantum time. Like, I remember reporting on. Face facebook. Sorry, pay pals user agreement which is like, it's it's fifty thousand woods Lona was at one point. You know, it's longer than some novels, and the fact is you can defend in coin us. They will look we had this here in this document that you agree to and the fact is that it's technically, okay? Even though the document is fifty thousand woods long in written complex, legal ease that no real person can understand. And as you know, there's a need for a change. That's going down the route of GDP L, which I'm thinking everyone's kind of bold with at this point. But but yet these terms and conditions very very problematic. I think it's it. It's boring. I guess in our circles, but DD PR were asking what we need. How do we stop these companies? And really, that's that's it. It's not perfect, but it's a start towards like really focusing on privacy in data, and what it means to users promoting, you know, easily understandable, easer agreements and really. Making sure people are aware of what these companies are doing. We definitely need something. Like that in America. We're getting some side benefit to it. Because now everybody has to update for that. But now it's personal privacy. Now, it's a little bit more of a three alarm fire as Carol Cadwalader points out because the state is also being used to suborn democracy. It's being used by the Russians in the United States and the in the UK to change election results. And that seems to me pretty serious matter at this point. Yeah. She called it the largest election fraud in the UK in one hundred years. It's people to wrap their heads. Even for me to read my heads around it because it isn't like you broken voting machines and change the tally. It's much more subtle than that. But as we learned from the Muller report, the Russians were organizing rallies in the United States that, you know, appear to be patriotic Americans, and in fact were Russian actors, you know, using even Craigslist for that since sane. Yeah. And so I I wonder I don't know I talked to people non tech people with different political views of mine, obviously, a raging liberal, and they don't seem to be too convinced by any of

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Remainiacs - the Brexit Podcast

Remainiacs - the Brexit Podcast

04:04 min | 2 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Remainiacs - the Brexit Podcast

"He tells us in the opening scenes that it make us grown who are on the table wash. I washed it. Did booking one too. But you made me so. Enjoy. Enjoy. It was very very good. But I didn't enjoy it wasn't meant to be enjoyed really was it, I suppose not. All I could see it was it was it was better than I thought it was going to be better than if it had done things one way or another. It did feel like the opening efforts to try and grapple with the psychological sort of patriotic implications of what this thing had done a lot of it. Okay. So what was good and bad about both framed around? It's it's it's resistance to coming to a decision on whether Cummings is basically a good guy or bad guy. So it comes in. He's this sort of interesting extremely cerebral. You know, chaos agent, but maybe possibly bullshit. And at the end, you sort of get this sort of moments in front of a committee, where there's quite a strong suggestion of he's opened up these demons that he cannot control, and I feel that would have had a bit more power if it'd been willing to say something about him one way or another rather than just sort of balancing the booze in the air. There's a little bit too cautious for me. But it was a valiant effort rolls. Did you enjoy it? No. I mean, I can't I didn't enjoy it. But I found it fascinating on the less because it was about Brexit. It was very very well acted for the most part. I think there would be. There was some criticisms about it from people like Carol Cadwalader. And who are basically say we didn't hear enough about how they lied. We didn't hear enough about detail about how they lied and to me that wasn't the point. You know, this is a drama, and if you keep on hammering hope, yes, they light here. They lied hit on it. People are going to switch off. And I think it made the made it very clear that vote leave leave the EU and be leaving. So all light, there's various points the point is. And this is the interesting thing, we know they lied. How is it possible to get away with that kind of lying now in British politics? And how is it possible? Now for us to have doubled down on it and for people to be carrying online and guessing deeper deeper deeper into lies in the last two and a half years. And that for me is the really fascinating question because it it it gets to the real heart of what is going wrong with British. Politics. Well, I found I mean, I sort of again couldn't enjoy it. My loathing of the cast of characters was was was too great for me to actually appreciate the the dramatic direction on the on the obese great scale on talent involved. However, I did think that the massive disjuncture between Dominic Cummings is a fully rounded character. And then the kind of cartoon start ruined WALDO of presentation of g-o-v and Boris Johnson. You can't you can't pass Nate Johnson. I mean, he it's impossible to impersonate him because he has an impersonation of himself. I thought I thought it was fascinating with Cosworth because Causwell comes across as a complete loser. Why is he in this at all? They got his his facial expression. Exactly. Right. So that was that was very very well done. And also with Matthew Elliott who we don't hear much about it. It's really got in in into the mechanics of the relationship between the old school tourists people like Bernard Jenkin an old school Euro-sceptics Bill Cash, and then on another wing the Mavericks, you know, the populists like Nigel garage and air bags, and then you have come about Cummings coming in and disrupting all that and taking taking almost nothing from those guys, but just bringing entirely his own spin. And it's showing how he was able to cut through with his take back control slogan, and basically avoid having to have very much to do with the material what I found really hard to tell you. The huge division of British democracy is depicted as a kind of heroes journey on end. He was it was it was much more complicated than that. I think the, you know, the listening the listening I can hear Britain groaning. It's just that was to show how bizarre it was let your west, you know..

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote

Mueller, She Wrote

04:36 min | 2 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Mueller, She Wrote

"Just like what a nice job, I'm wearing fucking wolf sweater makeup and your wool sweaters. And it's like it's like that one man wolf pack situation from oh, yeah. Hangover reminds me of new lion. King trailer that we tweeted out. Yeah. Yeah. That's That's good. a you. Listen, but holy shit. I'm so excited for you in that movie. That's my favorite Disney movie of all time high and crazy because we love the TD animation. That's what we grew up on. But this is going to be like what the next generation looks to same story. Just like upgrade it when you grow up on. Yeah. I was in college. When that came so sorry, however when that came out, and obviously everything Disney puts out is so far ahead of its time that was like incredible animation. They have the side by side now or you can look at the enemy now in the enemy, then oh my God. That's crazy. All right anyway today in the interview, we're joined by one of the hosts of a new podcast from across the pond, I'm going to go ahead and call them our sister podcast. They say that that they got their name as a no MAs to to Miller she wrote, and they're absolutely fantastic. Brilliant writers award winning writers. So let's have a listener that interview joining us today to discuss his new podcast. Dial m for Muller is Peter Jukes. He's a co host of this new podcast across the pond with Carol Cadwalader, and both amazing amazing people, and I'm very happy to have you here today. Welcome to mow. She wrote Peter, oh such a pleasure to be on. We we pay homage to you with awe to ties with the ball podcasts. We didn't steal it where you just as a homage yet. No. And we're completely honored. And it's total totally. It's completely cool name. And I like how you guys want Hitchcock. You know, we went. Murder. She wrote, but Dangelo, you know, it's very cool. So yeah. By folk talk about crimes interesting interesting connection. But so the film and the TV say she might about a major crime wonder why that is. Yeah. Major crimes and also the mystery that it's kinda shrouded, and we all know Muller's been real tight lipped, and he's he doesn't leak so everything that we've learned about this is pretty much just come out from either witnesses testified with them or somebody in the White House leak and stuff on purpose. So it's been really interesting. But I wanted to ask you if you could tell us a little bit about how your podcast came to be why he wanted to start it. Yeah. So I mean, we'd be pulling you'd be doing you'll probably lucky 'cause you have Ma you know, I do funnier say unity insights, like when they diamonds the land. When the metaphor having means. I'm completely obsessed by it. But I'm on your very very lucky because your country built on those you have bad people in it. But you do have something called the constitution. We have something who press. I mean have. A ferry sort of have has a way of doing things. So why we got around to the pulled costs was that mainly cow. She would be hit by collapsed somewhere. Exhausted has really being the only June this following the breakfast side of the Russian story, the Brexit from side, and for whatever reason Ivan about this before I covered phone lost in the, but okay, I'm on newspaper, mediocre stations, ping sort of covering it. And actually you could follow even the BBC actively suppressing the story of a potential Russian intervention in the Brexit the referendum which happened just before the Trump election. So the put constant committee on Brexit. Broadcasting channel is like a PBC because catalysts, so exasperated that she couldn't they she's a she's ward winning Genesis swept the board with prizes on well applies. The Stig lost. Dries national media will not cover it for various political reasons. It's kind of you know, it seems to be the mining the the MRI of bay this referendum. We usually half referendums the bad thing to be on this. But this is a great fair the government is weak. And so Finally, I think also though the pressure from us and many house politics and me doing about on the side, the NCI oh FBI, which is called the NCAA. National crime agency is going to investigate this still Republican the Sala, which is a lot of interaction between the major lead the biggest British political history..

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Today in Focus

Today in Focus

05:44 min | 2 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Today in Focus

"Hundred thirty five thousand pounds for misusing personal data. Amera banks. Russia. I wish from the guardian. I'm Gristana today in focus. Who is our banks, and what was his real role in Brexit? Aaron banks is an insurance businessman who has his headquarters in Bristol. He runs both his very complicated network of insurance companies from the headquarters in Bristol. And you also runs his political campaigns from there. So that was where Nigel garages leave campaign was based during the referendum. Done it by work on the ground. There. Until two thousand sixteen Carol cut while ago wouldn't have described herself as an investigative journalist. But she was intrigued by banks one of the founders of the unofficial Brexit campaign group leave EA you she says she almost stumbled into his story is accidental is so completely accidental. It's because I started looking at Cambridge Analytica because came John Liska wrote me a letter of complaint in autumn last year when I just put this casual reference into an article about how they work for the leave campaign in Cambridge. Let's go vote and complained and said they didn't and that leave campaign was headed founded and funded by Aaron banks. So very quickly my questions about Cambridge only sokaia took me to Aaron banks at the time. I had absolutely I I'm not even sure if I'd ever heard of him. I was just really intrigued by there are so many questions by the time Carol met our banks in the pub she'd already. Published a couple of stories that had led to action the electoral commission cakes often investigation, and it was about weather arm banks is Levy you campaign had declared all of its spending. So that was one investigation now that is still ongoing it's now being referred to the police. The second investigation was by the information Commissioner's office into the use of data in the referendum that became a much bigger inquiry. It's become the largest data protection investigation in the world ever. So you're looking at the data, and you're looking at the money, then what happened say what changed after that was I then did another big piece in may great Brexit robbery and that change things because K majolica decided to start threatening to sue us. And that was very serious. I was taking very seriously here because Khaimah Gianluca is owned by Robert Mercer. Hedge fund billionaire who bankrolled Donald Trump, and they were threatening to sue for special damages so potentially millions of pounds which could have put our entire news organization out of business. You're getting deeper into this massive global story and all the time even touch with our banks over social media. I think described the toners banter and then in the summer of two thousand seventeen it does seem to change. I'm just gonna read a few tweets out to you. Here we go another lefty journalist writing bollocks, you haven't produced one shred of evidence. And then Carol wouldn't be so Lippi and Russia, and here's what we found more recently. That's Carol Cadwalader. The sad cat lady. How did that make you feel? It's very significant, and it's very deliberate. And it's very misogynistic because what's being critical kind of arm. Banks is methodology in rebutting. These very very serious claims questions is to try and portray MIR's an isolated figure alone voice. A mad woman conspirator Assad cat, lady and. I really I mean, this is so interesting because this is how propaganda works. And then the attacks on Carol become even more sinister. Everything changed exactly this time of year ago. Theresa May makes her first ever public announcement about potential Russian interference in British democracy. It is seeking to weaponize information. Deploying its state run media organizations to plant fake stories and photo shopped images in an attempt to so discord in the west and undermine our institutions. So I have a very simple message for Russia. We know what you are doing and you will not succeed and Carol was experiencing. This herself receiving an extraordinary letter from the Russian embassy in London, the Russian embassy accused me of being a bad journalist and somebody who had shown my true colors. I mean, it was disturbing. This email. I was really taken aback by it. Because it's one thing to get trolled by the Russian embassy, but to actually have a kind of formal communication from the Russian government calling me about you list, when we know that journalists in Russia me, very untimely environment. Ends I did think that was significant escalation. Very shortly afterwards. I was sitting at my kitchen table, and I saw this tweet from lady..

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Remainiacs – the Brexit Podcast

Remainiacs – the Brexit Podcast

03:31 min | 2 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Remainiacs – the Brexit Podcast

"But as you mentioned earlier, it does bring another element to bear in the kind of moral case for people's vote. The final say in that when the vote is delivered can be seen to be at least compromised than the kind of political pressure in the country would grow. Yes. The problem here is this has been framed on the referendum have been primed as a will of the people. I'm assesses are the people, and in fact, twenty with suggested that the referendum don't might be reversed today or yesterday, the prime minister's office said that the referendum without with the people and truth may with getting on with. They're not seeing it. Now there really is no such thing as the people it's a mess, and it is certainly not a sexual thing. And we know now that given the the opinion polls within right now, we cannot claim to the the the Brexit vote is any longer the will of the people. Back to that mail report from which fascinating, we we. We tweeted at we put up on the Facebook page as well. What are what are we to make of the male going in so hard on an arch breakfast is it the new Jodi Grieg regime? Yes. The mail has very much changes line since Julie great took over it's a very different paper from the one onto the p-o-l-i-t-i-c-a regime. I think we are seeing a graduate switching away and certainly from the pressure for heart Brexit, and I think that will ultimately have quite an impact because it will make it more difficult for the hard Brexit in on the back benches to to to bring to feel that they have of wide swathes probably companion behind minute. We should probably get Jodi, Greg. I'm show. He sounds like all kinda going. Yeah. I mean, I think he describes himself through soft Brexit, but we'll see obviously, this is not going to be something that direct opened included into in time for the end of March. So that it can have direct burying on whatever happens with our our exit from the it is safe to say, this one's going to Roman ROY. Isn't it? I think we we haven't seen the last of Mr. banks. Now, we haven't seen a lot semester gangs. And at some point when the national crime agency does reports we will find that. Presumably of what went went that's money at this eight million pounds came from that his if you like the million dollar question, and it will be fascinating to find out. What the source of it is unhappy as what in Britain right now. Carol Cadwalader, she subsequently 'cock-a-hoop. Yes. Because he's been done. Perfectly justified in pursuing the story. And I of people have areas times, I've tried to undermine her and suggests that she's been talking up the wrong tree, and if conspiracy theory and so on, but it does seem that she's been radio into something, actually. Well, we're gonna find out more as it moves on. I'm we'll see you on the show next week. Let's hope nothing happens between now and Wednesday because we don't need to build their emergency podcast with somebody else. Switch it today. Say what you go daily like if you can find us Alex told Dylan to Twitter, if you can find a seven times as many in back as we'll start doing daily, which will be good for health rose. Thanks very much and we'll see next week. Thank you. Is maybe is my me. No, honest, schools, honest. Tell me what you do to me confrontation. Ain't nothing new TIMMY, you could bring a bullet. Bring swore bringing more. But you can't bring the truth to me. Alexa, play Kendrick Lamar and scissor. Okay. With Amazon music says all you need did tens of millions of songs. Download the Amazon music app today.

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Globalist

Monocle 24: The Globalist

05:06 min | 2 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Monocle 24: The Globalist

"Of course, when when you were doing your research, did you manage to trace back a single event or a single moment in time in where public opinion really started to shift and turn the other way when it came to big Dada, big technology companies and religious generally who has Allenton nation. So that's a large question. I think that in general people in this country, at least we're not really paying attention to what was going on in campaign. Certainly there were various data breaches over the last, you know, five six years where people would kind of firm moment. Wake up to the idea that their personal information was not just being collected for advertise. Purposes, but for more nefarious purposes, and in each time, there would be this kind of moment of recognition, and then everyone go back to using Facebook, or Twitter, whatever they were using. And so I don't think there was a moment. But what happened when Christopher Wiley came forth from the depths of having talked to the amazing reporter from the guardian and observer, Carol Cadwalader, widely had been the architect of the Cambridge Analytica algorithms that we're using basically purloined Facebook data, and when he came out of the shadows and told us that there was something like eighty seven at least eighty seven million Facebook profiles that had been basically appropriated in a kind of underhanded way and used for these political ads that I think was the. Moment when people woke up to the connection between what they were doing on Facebook, and what was going on in the political world. And I think it was shocking to people even though it had been going on for quite a long time. And that was to help speaking to Monaco's Ben Ryland a series on how elections are fought on one continues all week here on the globalist. Twenty six minutes past seven hit in London. And you're listening to the globalists'. I'm Georgina Godwin. Joining me in the studio is to a lesser putter. Lana is a professor at King's College London. He's an expert on Asian maritime defense. He's here to go through the papers. Unless of course, all the British papers of full of the budget. Indeed. Good morning, Joe. I'm yes. As as you as you quite devoted to down does an Asian experts. What am I doing today with the newspapers review because they're all avowed financial and fiscal troubles and the future heads, but actually it is quite interesting. Of course, you go a wide coverage of the chancellor, Philip Hammons a budget speech last night. But I think the probably provides us with more sort of sober assessment of it, and all in all, of course, as a lot of uncertainty said should this is one of the largest discretionary gave away since the creation of the office for budget responsibility. So it's a it's a big thing. And I think begin the findings go reputation for being relatively sort of your risk averse who conservative and in very sort of a soft spoken in that sense person. This is a coin of a bold move. It was nonetheless very cautious because country. I mean, it was kind of interesting to see the prime minister who just say that DO Serote age was finished. He actually didn't pretty quite the same way say that it was coming to an end Schmidt wasn't finished yet. And I think what he was saying was really did. Handy was very much supportive of the government position. Because one of the biggest clearances hanging over the jet is Israel this question of Brexit. Now, he's been reassuring. And in in the sense that he's doing is planning contingencies to be in place in April right after sort of the fine tuning the fundable misses the negotiations come around, but at the same time, I think the important element. The story is that how he's trying to provide a reassuring picture the country's finances. And as also trying to deliver a strong balance, you know, very difficult act because he's trying to delete it on wat-. Brexit is and levers have been promising which is more money to the NHS in public spending in public services in general tax cuts sort of like trying to reinvigorate the medium small enterprises, which have been sort of suffering more. Increasing the income tax personal lions to twelve thousand five hundred pounds. So does a number of things that would speak to the Torah manifesto..

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Talking Politics

Talking Politics

03:36 min | 3 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on Talking Politics

"Then monopolizing the news is seen on those platforms, but it's a huge part of the story news story, oppose aches, how we exaggerate it because it's almost gone from nowhere. Putty. Thanks. Carol Cadwalader another's Facebook and came journalists just to come. This kind of shorthand for what's gone wrong. We now focusing too much on one particular location of the problem is Facebook at the heart of the problem is hot of one problem. It's natural that we focused on Facebook at the moment because it has such a profound influence on the news and communications industry and has had a very provided on elections and referendums. So I think it's natural that we're looking at Facebook and of course, the scale of it just is very difficult. I think to really actually understand the scale of Facebook when you're sort of dealing with two point, two billion active users. And when in many countries, the internet is Facebook. It's inevitable at one sort of seasonal flow things through that guys, but many Asian countries. I mean, particularly probably not aware the extent to which puzzle Asia parts of Africa. Facebook is simply the anyway, you can access, but it's in ESP. Actually in South East Asian passer, Africa's you say where Facebook they did these, these deals, we look telecoms companies to offer free free service free basic service to the internet as long as UN Facebook. So they're all countries throughout southeast Asia, Malaysia, and Indonesia, and other countries where ovation, ninety percent of people who are on the internet or on Facebook. It's not only that is where people spend time during the day of the Philippines, spending four hours a day on social media that some Facebook, but it's also where you shop where you go to some cases to work it is the the public square. It is the space where people communicate. So in that sense, when we're not exaggerating, I think where we have to be careful is that I think we've gotten about the other platforms, sort of let the other platforms do their thing. And, and actually, I think we're going to start to see is the. The attention shifts significantly some of the other platform because I think actually in the long run some denting we'll make Facebook site in significance. What point were you aware? I think I'm Lee bell gave a lecture a couple years ago. Basically cooled have Facebook gate, the news. I think it was literally cool. That what point were you aware that this thing that started off as something that was sort of ten gentle to the business urine swallowed when again, it was happening was very interesting book Risley cold, something like chaos monkeys, which was written by a developer describing what it was like inside Facebook, and it was really about two thousand thirteen. They've finally cracked it, and then it was sort of unstoppable beast, but they they were funding around a bit up to that point in terms of monetization, and then it did eat everybody's lunch breakfast, Dana, it is terrifying. And again, in my book, it would've been an easy book to write, saying Facebook, evil, but then you know, you have. Explain mountains, figure of two point, two billion of so evil wireless people on it. What are they like it and in some countries. It's a great democratic enlightened force. And the other point is that people keep join the analogy with good Bergen saying, you know where about ten minutes into Gutenberg time. And I think the ten minutes into web two point, the social web and expecting these companies to solve this overnight is unrealistic..

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

05:04 min | 3 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Won the British journalism award for technology journalism Carol Cadwalader welcome to fresh air Do you see parallels between. What's being investigated in the Brexit campaign and, what, investigation, in the Trump presidential campaign Very. Clearly yes there's an obsolete parallels and overlaps between. What's happened in Brexit and what happened in the Trump campaign and that was one of, the very first things this. Alerted me, when I first started. Looking at this twenty months ago was this very very clear overlap. Of individuals so Robert Mercer he's the billionaire. Hedge fund owner who, was the main donor of chunks presidential campaign he's. Also the one who fought Cambridge Analytica. The company, that I, I started investigating for its? Role in the referendum so that was a. Very clear link Steve Bannon of course who is Trump's campaign manager he was a vice president for Cambridge Analytica. I'm the link really the through link you I keep coming back? To is this character cooled Nigel Farage familia American listeners all with him but he was the guy who Trump introduced his, rally, in Mississippi in the summer of two thousand sixteen and he bought him up on stage and he. Said this is Mr. Brexit and he said very. Clearly if Brexit can happen in Britain then I can get elected in the United States, and it's this parallel and. The way, that Brexit really opened. The door for Trump is one of the sort of main strands. That sort of catch me going through this. Whole investigation and Nigel, Farraj was the first foreign visitor that Trump welcomed. After he was elected that's right yes. It is, very very, close relationship between the mall? Between Steve Bannon is really the source of. Linking character they're really Steve Bannon who's been involved with Robert nursery in various projects over the years and wherever Steve Bannon. Was Robert nurses, money was, and when Robert Mercer started funding, Donald Trump's presidential election that was when I was. Fourteen is his campaign manager and Bannon Farraj go back they are place I g launch equal allies and in fact Steve Bannon actually open a branch of Breitbart in London in two. Thousand and twelve specifically to support Nigel Farraj mission to take Britain out of the. EU so. The, the these Klay, sort of personal friendships and relationships and ideological alignments and now also political destinies that shared. Between the two countries why did Steve Bannon care so much about Brexit and England leaving. The EU The person who really put this into context for. Me was Christopher Wiley say he's the the pink had guy as people when, I'm always saints people if they know who he is he's. The pink Haggai the Cambridge analytical whistle blower and I started talking to him I think. It was the beginning of April last year and one of the first things we talked, about in this insanely long I telephone. Conversation I had with him was that he had had a, conversation with Bannon back in two thousand and fifteen and. Two thousand fourteen sorry and Bannon was very clear about it is that this. Idea of Britain in some ways being sort of cultural leader. For America and so, this idea of of where where Britain leads culturally then it would sort of set apart for America rule so and Steve, Bannon things he kept. On telling me was to change culture that was the thing is that, politics is downstream of culture so first of all you have to change, the culture and this is where they really saw Britain is its place. In the English speaking world Sherry culture. With America and, so, the idea of if you, could sort of have a bridgehead I hear that could. Be influential in terms of the impact upon America later and so Ben and set up a Breitbart office in London to help try to move British. Culture and politics to the far right yeah there's there's there's there's one of my favorite, video clips is of which I and. Other people post whenever there's an opportunity we it again on, Twitter in its Nigel Farraj with a pint of beer. In his hand on the day that article fifty was triggered so that was..

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"carol cadwalader" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

KTAR 92.3FM

03:02 min | 3 years ago

"carol cadwalader" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"Millions of americans for political purposes according to the guardian the firm harvested personal data from us voters without permission that information was then used to support president trump's candidacy the company which has times to former trump advisor steve bannon has since been suspended from facebook so mind data mind the data very interesting here and he has his a russia tie somebody's always going to rush into it so just know that there is a russian tie what is it what did they do why is it always about the data this is carol cadwalader she is the woman that broke the story about this cambridge analytica we need face about this for at least two years ago i met this extraordinary young christopher wiley and who's a former cambridge i'm scott and he had this amazing stories to tell about how he had been involved with the harvesting of this absolutely massive amounts of facebook they're on facebook i'm on facebook like the facebook chad benson show page but what is it about like why why is data so important because data is is the key to everything right the more you know the more you know it doesn't matter what it is we have given away a certain bit of our say freedom because that's not the right word but our privacy willingly we've said hey computer we love you hey internet we love you hey we want to search for things we wanna do certain things on the internet and we will check i agree who reads those nobody nobody so all check i agree on something essentially giving away a portion of our again not so much freedom but our privacy and a bit of who we are in return we're gonna play around on the internet which we like to do this was different this was absolutely different and guess what base book was kind of like not really happening we put questions to facebook and then yesterday they issues this extraordinary threats against us claiming that these allegations were also commentaries and they were completely on the offensive and then in the middle of the nice statement that the band cambridge on lucy from the platform so what are they do well they gathered information on you and i and a bunch of.

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