19 Episode results for "Carlos Ramos"

Full Episode: Thursday, August 15, 2019

Nightline

19:16 min | 1 year ago

Full Episode: Thursday, August 15, 2019

"Is there something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals better help online counseling. Is there for you. Connect with your professional counselor l. slur in a private online environment scheduled secure video or phone sessions plus chat and text with your therapist listeners. Get ten percent off your first month by going to better better help. Dot com slash nightline good evening thank you for joining us beloved disney star cameron voices sudden death last month said shock waves across the descendants film universe and beyond for the first time the stars parents talking to robin roberts in an exclusive interview. I want him to be remembered and i want him to be remembered positively and to continue to help people get cheated from all the things he was going to do. Cameron boyce was a shining star in hollywood. Who's young life would tragically and end all too soon. The twenty year old passed away last month after complications from epilepsy this from you the hardest thing he was in a place where where he was truly happy. Cameron was always happy. Never negative thing came out of his mouth. He won the hearts of tweens. All across cross country doesn't acting dancing. Please continues and singing his way through some the disney channel's biggest hits including the descendants trilogy a natural born entertainer he choreographed and performed this mesmerizing dance hansel hoosiers music video almost weakens he had millions of fans to libby and victor boyce cameron will forever be we their baby boy. We were extremely extremely close. He's who i would go to for things. He was truly early one of the loves of my life and he always louis. How are you doing right now. We're hanging in there. We have rough days and we have some moments where you know we're celebrating grading his life and just thinking about what an amazing twenty years we had today. Cameras parents are speaking for the first time time since their son's sudden passing. There's nothing nothing like. This in. The world that you could ever prepare for is really sinking in that. He's never going to walk in the door you work. I've been having dreams about him like every night. Last night. I had another one about him and i was thinking oh wow he's he's here and i woke oh cup. Of course it's not and so it's been really bad. Cameron passed away in a sweep on july sixth. The los angeles coroner determined the cause as sudden unexpected expected death and epilepsy than night. He passed away. We were out to dinner with them just hours before it was completely normal beautiful family out to dinner. There was no indication that anything was wrong. I mean there's no way to know an hour's. My son will be dead like it was staggeringly crazy crazy and horrible mood. Were texting that night. We're somewhere between the last text. He set me in the morning. He was gone which is just you know. It's not cliche to say. You never know you never know. You never know it's not cliche. Cameron had been diagnosed those with epilepsy when he was seventeen years old but he hadn't had a seizure for more than a year before his death may only ever had five seizures and the fifth one is what it is the one that he died from. We'll see receiving treatment while he was on medication for why they did. All kinds of scans on his brain was nothing that showed there was a problem and he only ever had seizures while he slept. He never had one while he was awake. If i ever thought that he could die procedure i would have never let him out of my sight which would have been awful for him. In your quiet moments and you think your son what's the first thing that comes to mind his burs playing his steps sort of steps riding a bike. <hes> plays the shows. My mind is just going crazy with all kinds of memories memories that began in los angeles where cameron and his younger sister maya were born and raised. What kind of child was growing up. He was amazing he. He was always an extremely wise. Just the kindest sweetest human you could possibly meet ever like when he paid homage to his grandmother. Joann boy say civil rights icon in the disney channel tribute in two thousand sixteen my nana. There's one of the clinton twelve the first of black students to be integrated into an all white high school in clinton tennessee. I've heard time and time again that he was an old also houston say to me. Share your wisdom on share your wisdom with me which who says that who says that as a kid and you would take it in in and you would see him implement the things we shared with him but camera discovered his love for the stage all on his own. When did you know you had a little performer on your hand. That's easy. He's like four. They were going to give them a show. All the kids are in a row and they're standing there. They're doing their thing and cameron is killing it and to the point where eventually all the kids kind of just stopped me watched him after booking national commercials for companies like burger king simple straight and music videos for headlining bands like panic at the disco. He's asked her out because she hit the big screen his first major role at just eleven eleven years old portraying adam sandler son and the twenty ten comedy grownups he also grace the small screen landing a major role on the disney channel hit jesse charge people to watch for nukes. It wasn't long before he caught the attention attention of high school musical director and emmy winning choreographer kenny ortega he had this incredible talent and ability and that there was just something so delightful and exciting about him you know even when he was standing still really or take a cast him in a starring role as carello deville son carlos in the descendants trilogy to have been exposed to it as young as he was and to not have any missteps. You don't hear that often with china. That's why people would tell us people that worked on sets people you know behind the scenes would always tell me man. Your son is not like other kids. Everyone really really loved him and enjoyed him but in two thousand fifteen shortly after the descendents premiered cameron suffered his first seizure. That was an ambulance ride. <hes> went went to the hospital and then we went to specialists. This is a lot of people have a seizure in that never have another one again and so what we're hoping for that because they didn't see anything wrong with his brain so a whole year went by and nothing happens and then he had another one and then it it was like okay. Does he have epilepsy. What do you want to make people aware. Do you think they don't know a lot of there's not enough information about it and the other thing that has been striking to me is how many people have come up and said my son has epilepsy and now they're scared. Is this very rare. We have come to learn that having having a cardiac arrest when you have epilepsy. It's very rare so i want people to know that and i want to bring attention to this illness in terms of what they do now since cameras passing his parents have set up the cameron boyce foundation to help raise more awareness about epilepsy and other causes cameron was was passionate about like ending gun violence and the global water crisis for which he was honored by the thirst project. What you leave should be bigger than oh you and i. I really believe that yeah. We want to continue his legacy. We want to honor him. We wanted to all the things that he you wanted to do since he can't do them. We're now his voice. I can never fill my sunday shoes ever but we're going to try to continue his legacy as best yes we can because it's just important to just let it die. His the senate's co-stars are also picking up the torch. He was truly committed to the young men and women who looked up to him so we are committed as the descendants family as cam stanley to continue his voice he was the person you'd always asked for like. If you needed to talk to somebody he was always there and he was that person for everybody if we could all be more like cameron even ten percents. I think we we would all be better humans everybody his sister said that he was sunlight wearing shoes and i think that's the most perfect description of cameron why's that radiance lives on forever in videos like this it was snowing out and he was joyful in the snow and he just was wchs dancing through it. I love that because it's him and that's what he emanated where he went and whoever he talked to and whatever he did says it wasn't a performance that was just oh snowing and i love it and i'm happy since a lot about him yeah he was all about you know not being cookie cutter about creativity. Nobody about joy no labels. He wishes a human being though labels didn't fit in he stood out. You are thanks to robin next the backstory behind the superstar the empire a heated u._s. Open match tied down at work. Don't let your search for software kill. 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It was one of the biggest sport stores last year the fight between tennis superstar serena williams and an umpire. Our sister network e._s._p._n. Takes a look at the fallout from the fight and their new docu series backstory. I don't see it was the battle that define the two two thousand eighteen u._s. Open women's final not a one between the players and the court battle between a superstar and care umpire. The one senator on allegations of cheating between a player under devoted coach tried to help her as juggle serena williams meltdown would overshadow the historic match had the world talking about tennis and women's sports long after the final say good evening. Everyone and we welcome you to the trophy celebration abrogation of the united states open. No e._s._p._n.'s new docu series backstory and raveling cowan. Why one of the most celebrated finals in sports featuring the most famous female athlete in the world turn into arguably the most divisive and darkest moment in recent jason tennis history the match last year was the ugliest finish in grand slam history they either believed serena and were completely against the chair umpire carlos carlos ramos or they believe ross and we're completely against serena the series follows pulitzer prize winning journalist don van natta as he peels back the layers of this event including the lives of both williams and ramos to try to understand how the two found themselves of this breaking point and what it all says about tennis and society when i asked you about rama's backstory his his history as an are what is that how to characterize and he was somebody who came to impairing very early says his career goal when he was living in portugal ramos was only sixteen when he began working as a chair umpire. One friend said he was so focused. He treated local satellite events as if they were the wimbledon final romo's had an incredible will to succeed so did too little girls a world away in compton california venus and serena williams are perhaps the greatest sport story ever and not just one tiger woods in the family but to in a african american family in a predominantly white sport in this family came out of competent and decided we're gonna take over tennis and we're gonna win and when she did coming in only the dominant player in women's tennis the one who was going to push the envelope through her fierce role to win challenge the official not even her outfit toys in a one six singles titles of the u._s. Open heading into the two thousand eighteen open. She had a shot of the record point. There was an expectation dictation that she was going to tie. Margaret court's record of twenty four singles titles grand slam singles titles and everybody expected serena was going to win going into the match but williams quickly found herself down again so sokha and whether it was the pressure of the moment or simple slip-up williams in her coach would make a huge mistake patrick. Murata glue has been serena's coach for seven years two games into the second set. He believes she was in trouble tried to helper birth and he did something that would change the match co teaching warning. Mrs williams yeah if he gets upset. He's telling we don't happen coat and i know you don't know that and understand why you may have thought that was coaching. Tony not to in a rather loose. I just want to lose not not known to be one of those coaches who coaches all the time and you know i didn't understand until they showed patrick and when they showed him it was i thought to go forward to go into the net from that moment on the match was spiral out of control for ways broken racket in frustration another violation and then vis moment kill vollers horrible of us and he says williams the asaka would finish your off in the second set beck story follows done as he confronts serena's coast to find out exactly what happened in that pivotal moment was the first time patrick you ever sent a signal to serena. Yes and you chose to do it at that that moment why but because i felt it was important moments <hes> she was it was probably one of them big moment of careers. She's a grandson final to equal the record of all times and she's losing <hes> and she's. I feel that she's lost on the courts so so i tried to help her. That's my job. It was horrible for us into a horrible for serena. It's fantastic for tennis. It's unbelievable. That was the best moment of tennis for the or less than years. This was everywhere. We don't have any dramas into this. We have dramas in all the other sports but not in tennis in a post-match press. Conference serena was unbowed unbound the fact that i have to go through this is just an example for the next person that has emotions and they want to express themselves and they want to be a strong woman and they're going to be allowed to do because the today serena versus the umpire pushed every button race gender power rules sportsmanship sportsmanship fairness but even to this day. Nobody has conceded any ground. Serena williams refuses to admit there was a clear coaching violation russian or that she lost control of her emotions. When chair umpire at their best they're invisible carlos ramos was by the book but he lost control of the match do even if the back story of serena's fury fades with time many will see that singular enduring image what she wants us to see serena as the champion for justice defending her honor against against a man sitting high a chair looking down on her and finally tonight one wish from father for his five-year-old. Jake neely is off to his first staff kindergarten. He's a little shy but he's not alone lonnie the entrance to school special escorts in blue these police officers honoring one of their own jake's dad west palm beach police sergeant bill neely who died of cancer last year with the request to have this work family take care of his family at home <hes> <hes> he's up there looking down on us. I hope we made them happy. Good luck with school jake and a big salute to his brothers in blue. It was former first lady barbara bush who said family means putting your arms around each other and being there that's nightline you can always catch your full episodes on hulu. Thanks the company america good night. Is there something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals better help online counseling ruling. Is there for you connect with your professional counselor and a private online environment scheduled secure video or phone sessions plus chat and text with your therapist listeners. Get ten percent off your first month by going to better help dot com slash nightline.

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Don Van Natta, ESPN

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

10:14 min | 1 year ago

Don Van Natta, ESPN

"This is the sporting life on e._s._p._n. Radio and the e._s._p._n. App here's jeremy chef don don van natta junior his new series backstory. It premieres sunday on a._b._c. One o'clock eastern time with the first of five episodes of this first season the i episode serena versus the umpire and it is a pleasure to welcome to our show again don van natta junior. Thank you jeremy great to see you don. I'm really excited about the show and the series in general will what is the story. You're telling here about serena and what happened in the u._s. u._s. Open women's final in twenty eighteen well last year's women's final. If you remember serena was going for history she was trying to tie. Margaret court's record of twenty four singles titles and he's been trying for awhile for awhile but we all felt going into that that she was going to win. This was going to be a coronation. She was going going against a twenty year old and now naomi osaka which people really had some doubts about whether she had any chance to beat serena serena was her idol and as we all can recall all a year later the clash that occurred between serena williams and the chair umpire carlos ramos of portugal basically became a story much bigger than tennis <hes> it was about gender it was about race there were divided friends and families and so we decided to go back slow everything down because as you know in in the world today people make judgments instantly hundred forty characters and that's what happened here and we really wanted to slow everything down zapruder film like almost show each of the three code violations that were call by ramos against serena williams see why they happen what happened behind the scenes and then also dig deeply into the aftermath well. You know it's interesting because i know i think we we're speaking when you decided this would be one of the topics for the series and <hes> the other topics they were a little bit <hes> more born or rear view mirror. They weren't quite as recent and there were there. Were some more obvious unknowns with some of the other things we were talking about like like <hes> for instance demand taito situation from almost seven years ago now. How does the serena story with carlos ramos fit into the context of what what the concede is for the series. Well it really is trying to explore the story behind the story and so my goal is reporting as the title back store exactly accolades and the backstory as a backstory point in every back story of any story that you've done in your courage army or that i've done is always more interesting. The story behind the story is always the story that in-depth journalists investigative journalist try to find out you're right that this was only a year old but we began reporting this as israeli as november of last year where we started sitting down with people on camera months after take xactly where it was still fresh in everybody's mind and we felt that there was a lot of ground to cover over you know serena insisted during that matches we can all recall. I don't cheat. This is a matter of character what rama's called on that coaching code violation. She said i never never have gotten coaching so we just wanted to even just on that moment. Look deeply see how often did hear her coach patrick murata glue send coaching signals. I interviewed uh-huh interviewed him for the episode at wimbledon this year. He said it was the first time ever he sent a coaching violation a coaching code coaching a signal to serena and and so just even on that particular moment. I think viewers are going to be very surprised about what we found out. Serena looked right at the box as patrick murata glue sent the signal and we we see in a split screen murata glue nodding as serena's looking as he's sending the signal and at wimbledon. I asked him a very simple question. Why do you not did you feel that actually serena had seen that signal and then we found out exactly why carlos ramos called the code violation didn't speak to him didn't speak with serena but found out with people people around ramos y he called a code violation which has never been reported before and center episode were speaking with dan van don van natta junior about his new series backstory. It's premiering this weekend on a._b._c. It'll be on e._s._p._n. And e._s._p._n. Plus and e._s._p._n.'s app all week long as well <hes> starting doing this week. I should say the first one the first episode of serena versus the armpit and it's interesting because <hes> <hes> sometimes in journalism people don't wanna see how the sausage is made and this isn't necessarily as much journalism story as some of the other things that i know you're focusing on on but when you do that what is it like approaching people to talk about something that has been controversial that they're not necessarily eager to to revisit not easy and particularly on the five topics that we've chosen for the first season. These are topics that a lot of the protagonist don't wanna revisit visit but we're not gonna let let's say manteaux decides not to sit down with us for that particular episode decide whether we're going to do it or not <hes> serena williams as i said didn't sit down with us nor did carlos ramos <hes> but we still feel talking to members of their camps and the reporting. We got that we got a lot of new information. The show's conceit ezekiel jeremy is a journalism journey and it's my journey and it's done differently it rather than regular voice overs. I speak very conversational almost podcast style of what's in my head as i take each step and hopefully they'll be an audience for that that will be interested in sort of the search for truth about a topic that people think think they know but we feel there's a lot more ground to <hes> to to to cover an a lot more information to uncover well. Nobody really cares what i buy. These great idea for a show and i'm really looking forward to to to seeing these five episodes. Although i only know the topics i think of three of them. I'm sure the other two will be great as we know there's serena which is on this weekend end and then there is a joe jackson shoeless joe jackson pete rose show coming as well yes but went. When are we going to see that. That'll be either mid october. No oh no later than early november so in a couple of months and that's the banning of shoeless joe or the hundredth anniversary obviously of the black sox scandal a through line from shoeless joe and the black socks talks to pete rose who was banned thirty years ago for betting on baseball and then even look at legalized gambling now in the embraced by major league baseball currently and whether those two guys jackson and rowe's deserve to be in the hall of fame is obviously one of the questions we'll be exploring during that episode and then there's mankato is well. Yes which we interviewed you for in fact was great. Yes thank you were fantastic. So the first interview for this for this series was shaking his head in disgust the the first interviews with jeremy shop for this search for the series jeremy of course played a major role in the coverage of that got the first interview with tayo and yes and january january twenty thirteen time but the interview with you is great and and <hes> and and so people can look forward to that early twenty twenty that episode we're speaking with don. Van natta junior bet his new series premiering this weekend on a._b._c. One o'clock eastern time backstory. The first i episode is serena versus. The and i know at least some of the inspiration for the series came from a <hes> robert avid used to work on east sixty and the thirty for thirty. He did about his experience covering bob knight and neil read when he was at c._n._n. That i in roberts working on the show robert is the show runner on the show jon dahl one of the co creators of the great thirty for thirty film series is an executive producer right thomson the great writer as an executive producer newsra backstory as well and bluef- entertainment the folks from avon connecticut who are incredible filmmakers. Tim oregon hillary horgan pretty good. They do yeah it's. It's an all star team. It's it's it's been a lot of fun and i'm surrounded by so much talent so it screws up. It's on me. Nobody's gonna blame you don i. We're all looking forward to it. I am <hes> <hes> you know it's interesting with serena we get into this a little bit later in the show and we talked to mary carillo <hes> we recorded her interview before i am now speaking to you and she she talked about how difficult it is sometimes to cover serena <hes> because she is such a presence in the sport and she's meant so much adds to it and there's a very good case of course be made may be convincing case that she is the greatest female player ever but <hes> sometimes any kind kind of criticism of her has been shut down and she is shut <hes> she shut out people who have criticized her. How how fraud has that been <hes> in terms of getting people to talk about her very difficult and <hes> we've had more than one person say to us. You're either a one hundred percent with serena or you're against her so even in in persuading people to sit down and revisit that match there. I think there were making the calculation what what whatever i say. Is that gonna upset serena or her camp so it was a challenge <hes> but i think that we were able to overcome it with a lot of new information and and you know we'll see look patrick. Murata glue serena's serena's coach now for seven years who sent the coaching signal that started this whole drama during the us open final last year. He said he sat down with me. <hes> at wimbledon gave a great interview very revealing but he said to me before the average army. He said i wouldn't be here if serena didn't allow me to do it so he had serena's blessing to do it but it's an incredibly credibly revealing interview particular about that first coat coaching code violation lies. I said i'm really looking forward to it. <hes> to this show and the rest of the series. We've got five episodes coming up in the next few months on veneta juniors new series backstory the first episode again can be seen today one o'clock eastern time on john. I'm sorry i episode again can be seen sunday one o'clock eastern time on a._b._c. Serena versus is the don. Thank you trevor join us. Thanks germ great to see you. I'm jeremy shop and you can listen to new editions of the sporting life every saturday and sunday morning on e._s._p._n. Radio and e._s._p._n. App beginning at six a._m. Eastern time.

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Our 2019 US Open Rundown ft. Roxy

Yeah, We Said It

1:34:12 hr | 1 year ago

Our 2019 US Open Rundown ft. Roxy

"Volition y'all welcome to another episode of year. We sit. We're like ready for the u._s. Ground okay done l. how you doing today i'm doing fantastic. I really get into this draw great joining us. Today is our longtime frank creator of hashtag b._p. S u._s._c. black people saving u._s. army l._g. Brie brie. Hey y'all how's the go and i'm doing. We went pretty good good. You're ready to get started. Yeah absolutely yeah alright so news. I have carlos carlos ramos. I hate to even mention his name but you know he's according to the tournament the u._s. Open he's not going to umpire. Any matches is for venus or serena during this tournament <hes> <hes> i love it right. I'm cool. I'm fine. Would it a lot of people a lot of people on twitter up in arms about it but apparently it was the tournament's decision and not even serena wasn't even a part of it so he i mean i'm sure they're gonna blame her but you you know she doesn't have that kind of pool like she can't tell the whole tournament what to do. Clearly <unk> album places definitely got this one. <hes> also have that roughing roger federer veteran. Your meltzer have joined the player council. They reelected to fill the role vacated following the resignations of robin. Hi jamie murray dan so like we mentioned before. Can they get the a._t._p. Council out of their shit hole. We think no. It's gonna change yeah. I really don't seaney thing changing either. I mean it's more of a happier <unk> happier to see veteran at all that joke bitch but they probably are going to have the same policies to be honest right roger is his title is like at larger something right so. I don't even like how invested we actually be. It seems like he did almost because he had to. I hi because he really wanted to because he had already left. The player counseled months before right right <hes> and if i remember correctly exactly all their terms in <hes> next year round wimbledon so you're not really permit right right so i mean we'll see what happens. Apparently joke of it said something about <hes> gimelstob. Impress and twitter wasn't too happy about it but i'm not really sure what was said. I missed that too. Yeah bill simon that guy he tweeted okay okay sloan stevens she split from xv ingram filled and then we later found out rejoined forces with come out murray who left his post as coast for monica puig very abruptly <hes> putin had moved to chicago to work with him these partnerships that they both had respectively were not working. Well clearly and sutanto worked really really well when they were together so it's messy but it makes sense it. I'm glad i'm glad to act together because it was weird when they split first of all 'cause i didn't know idea i come in thus as far as i know there was a reason given but <hes> well as sloan fan in the group <hes> apparently what <unk> happened was apparently what had happened was is that they come out just like on a break like christmas break doc and then a slow never got back to him so it was just really poor communication so he went out and got a job with monica because you know her mom called him up and was like hey don't see you working with anybody which i'm working with monica and he was like yes so it's kinda seems like monica was was just the rebound sloan got shit together. Basically damn dan so this is probably been coming for a while like they've probably been talking about how the things and everything everything well base up. The body serves podcast. They were kiki in and i don't think and came to d._c. So yeah this has been brewing. Ooh saints only monica was the one who didn't no uh-huh damn monica. I'm sorry this is funny. Ashaninka the ninja muslim much. I'm sorry is getting minutes. It's very good mess. It's this is why the w._t._o. With this why we love them because because they bring it on and off the court basically yeah okay well. Hopefully it works so hopefully both may delay clowns for doing this behind the scenes <hes> but i think he's gonna work because it worked really well before she had her best and most consistent assists results with mount murray so i don't expect anything to change. I mean come on trial with monica. It's not like you know. He didn't fly anywhere player or do a lot of work with her. She does not the winning team. You know sometimes it. Just don't work for exactly yeah yeah. <hes> yankel to service has announced his retirement. He is playing the u._s. Open's at the end of the ear. I don't know i just saw that. He announced he was retiring and then <hes>. I started playing party. You know so yeah yeah geico see you at retirement party. <hes> you'll shoot up the flightless sexist racist gone <hes> nassau. Yes the girl by on that one. I'm sure we'll be novak's coacher hitting the future. No no no no. That's not yeah oh yeah and well anyway. You had some morning. It's been a andy very playing challenge this week at nidal's academy academy so <hes> collect to him in that is cool to see them do that to get the matches in these points that he so desperately needs. I look forward to his his singles journey for now. 'cause i'm pretty sure he's done with doubles. Yes seems like he's he's into all these singles events for the fall aw so good luck to them yeah. I'm glad he's filling in that wells so quickly you know. I didn't expect it to happen soon. Yet is pretty remarkable. I mean bob. Bryan came back within a year as well. I think but he's just playing doubles with rights. It's not like he's trying to get back out on the singles. Court also probably a little bit tired of losing with fairly like they had that one ten mm-hmm and but then like they demolished ever since yeah. Are we sure the brixton try like matchsticks except for eight years as the lead single's title and those that was that was that was surprising very surprising. I mean is even ranked in the top. One hundred these days lopez i have no idea and i think it sounds like you always has has direct entry though right like he's gotta be oh yeah because he has that long slammed street. That's right yeah yeah if he's gonna be in the top hundred yeah tournament director that's doing well. That's true we also well. Did you wanna mention muga rosa rosa. Did she ok. Does she have another coach. Did you find out on yell. I did not find anything <hes> <hes>. This is like a tweet that i saw i swore it was wti insider somebody and she was working with one of those famous spanish lady players. There's not continue to of course but <hes> another one. I think is annabel medina grievous whoever she's working with this for her sake. Hopefully it works. I guess 'cause who she needs. Somebody nobody that's not so toxic because that was that was on top of that. I didn't even enjoy it was that bad bad like watching their interactions and stuff when he would get called down like oh my goodness that's just yeah. It's not good. It looked like a very toxic carry. Wowie whistle gardenias you know the best and hopefully she can get back on track become. I wish her well. Maybe not never mind the except you know that twenty twelve matt met but <hes> oh in time those times we'll just let them go so like you said no wish or will all the news is depressing passing period. It's it is this last bit of news is even sadder is the saddest absolutely <hes> we would like to send our love imprisonment actress light to a manager move in her family. During this time <hes> our thoughts are absolutely with you absolutely one hundred percent the horrible do it's really sad but it's nice to see you know the tour kinda supporter in that way that's true. Most people don't get a a tweet or her in the locker room so you to deny watch approach this <hes> this e._s._p._n. Dark on serena and the u._s. Open was called serena versus the actually that was what was called back backstory serena versus the over. I did watch it. I just watch the yesterday so it'd be fresh on my mind actually forgotten about it until yesterday um but i watched it in so i have a few notes as i told you it wasn't that bad i was actually expecting a lot more services so but the first thing i wrote down was that it was twelve minutes in before we heard from a black woman which is notable because everybody else's why yeah who was the black woman <hes> what is that girl's name <hes> <hes> roxane gay. That's it was okay yeah surprises in it but apparently she's a stand so she she was in part of it. Okay yeah my first my first question. I think a lot of our first question was are they going to address arrest two thousand and four and two thousand nine two thousand eleven or are they just going to strictly stay with eighteen so they did address the other instances with serena at the us open and they did it with pam shriver pam okay so pam did say there was only one bad call in four that was only when she mentioned which was of course the worst one of all that back on the line that was very very very in the lady called it out from the other side of the court <hes> but it was at least these three or four really unprofessional terrible last calls and they were all against serena so we need to mention that but pam was truthful will she told the facts without trying to express her own thoughts but i did feel like her face and her demeanor said a lot in terms of what she was actually thinking. Even though the the words coming out of her math were just purely the facts you know they did bring up ramos reputation and the twentieth sixteen french open coaching violation that he gave venus and that was not in a final that was that was like around two or three at the french open that year here they stated this rule which i didn't know so it says the real says it does not matter if a player sees a coaching signal the player is penalized because they are responsible for their coaches behavior and then i wrote down bitch worked because i'm pretty sure whoever their coaches is a grown ass man or woman who makes their own decisions and choices in action so oh like how is the player responsible coach doing in the stance but okay okay whatever yeah i guess they're taking a loose interpretation of like at the coach is an employee of the players whatever they're they were doing right clearly told them so players responsible for the coaches behaviors and this man who did the documentary stated that he reached out to serena's team and nobody answered how is pressuring moore a tug lou in this documentary in. I'm it just lets you all think about that. Everything about it. Okay so quote unquote. Two sources told me rommel's called called it because he saw serena looking at more togu when he sent her the signal they also said ramos has umpired dozens of serena's matches and believe that when serena is losing she has a tendency to retreat back behind the baseline bitch name. Those sources are keep them on on the playground. Thank you very much. I don't like that okay two sources no no no no no who said i want to know who it is right the problem for me. I also take issue with a white female friend of ramos's being asked if he was racist and i have an issue issue with chris evert being asked about sexism amongst umpires were would either of those two women know about these things chrissy wouldn't know because she was lily white and performed cute blonde girl next door type behavior literally her whole career. She didn't speak up for herself because she never had to. Meanwhile connors honest who's out here. Calling umpires abortions no penalties at the very same tournament that is in discussion in this documentary the u._s._o. So what is the truth christie. I'm very confused about that. Those are my now like overall a really really wasn't that bad. <hes> yeah <hes> so. What did they determine like. What was the sole special so the end at the end. He said he asked okay well. We'll we remember number. Carlos ramos's name in twenty years yes bitch we will and then he said that what we will remember is serena china turning this entire situation in to a women's rights and that's what we're gonna remember down. The road is that she manipulated the whole situation and turned it into a fight for women's rights and equality. That's what he said. At the very end. That was the last thing that came out of his mouth all right <hes> cool non parcel totally. Oh i need to watch this with my own eyes to help with some of the confusion but yes. That's a pretty bold statement right there. Well you know i didn't expect much more based off of who was being interviewed. Neither naomi or serena had anything to do with this year. Hello foolish aw patrick to stop going on tv. I just he's like literally the entire time he took no responsibility for his actions like this is my god. The one clip i saw of him made him look so foolish. It was like when you try to get a five year old to admit they're lying but then you know they're so adamant. They're not lying. That's what it looked like a psycho patrick. He's he's not learning clearly. I'm sure he'll have has several interviews during this use open about it so when surprise me well clean just gotta go out there and do that work on the court and we can put all this in the rear view. Please yeah out of likes to see queen. Get her ducas. Twenty fifteen still unsettles me okay. We gotta move on. Let's start with the ladies draw withdrawals. I have anisimov of course dan monarch marquette avenger sova civil cova bova savannah ravea schmidt lova that writing a lot more on the women's side and we're used to you caso top of the job we have one naomi osaka back to number one in the world just in time to defend in her first major title she starts versus blincoe via interest see naomi's newly work our way through this event because this is her second time defending champion at any tournament and her of you of course our first time defending champion at a slam and she's the number one seat number. One player in the world is going to be a it's going to be interesting to watch handles definitely definitely for sure and if she still carrying that knee injury that's weighing on her right. 'cause i saw earlier today she that s pretty sure the clippers earlier today. That knee is still strapped up yeah from a clip that i saw today. She got a little nike kneepads on yeah so i guess trying to cover up any tape if there is but we'll just have to see. Does i mean our draw seems pretty. There's nothing to tough you nothing. She should be fine so the quarterfinals at least that quote there like last year i i was winning the u._s. Opening this year. I'm just trying to play the job and that was very worrying worrying. It's not good especially salihi at that as you don't wanna have that bad of a knee issue right yeah but like you said her draw is <hes>. It's pretty pretty workable. Honestly cocoa goff is here. She plays pope over <hes> makoko. Hopefully she can have another good tournament at a slam big right because i'm not i'm not. I'm not even expecting her to get out of this first round but it would be cool if she is she. One of magic's here absolutely no. You're only fifteen still right exac absolutely yeah as potapov playing well this year. I know she's kind of like a name but i haven't really heard much about it. Lately yossi her name in the draws all the time but i'm not even sure of ever actually watched her play so i'm not i'm not sure yeah. I'm on that same boat well aw cocoa. If not i mean she's got doubles in mixed belinda blenda benches here. She opens versus mandy manila. She's been playing well. I expected her to have a little more consistent over the summer. I think yeah me too. She got injured somewhere. Was that canada where she left left the court crying. Oh you know what he might've been yeah somewhat. She got injured so i think now she's kind of going on back into our old ways of playing a getting injured plan well so we'll see that's her career so yup. We have an asr aranka saba linka first around. There might be something to see they could. That'll be fun lincoln. Oh gosh dabbling for sure yeah. I you know i hope we could win but i know it's not gonna happen. I was just like hey. You think i'm picking to win met match. I'm taking to win that mess. I'm not i'm not even sure how has been playing. This is only sharp words but you know scientists to lose. That's what exactly is gone. I want her going and i'm pretty sure we can do it first year. Why do you want her god because i don't like her. I don't like flat out. I don't i don't i don't have a reason i just don't see me. She got to go but i think i think we can do. A sample incas and <hes> her year has not been very good at all. She looked like she was getting a little bit back when she got to the north courts but she's still bid up and down and i don't all you know is she. Doesn't she's gonna lose around tuna boots. I think she could be cooped but don't think she can the example inca so yeah i don't. I don't see lincoln making a run here. Just put it like that ever. Saddling his draws quite manageable <hes> she could lose to anybody and and she will very true but she gets in the semi's last year yeah but she was riding high and should i they she made she made the made the round of sixteen last year yeah nationally. She did not make the semi's she lost canal me ms in the renaissance. I think it was the sunnis. I'm looking at it right now. It's an that was rounded sixteen. Yes sixteen. You're you're talking about the u._s. Open right yeah yeah yeah. She's never made a slam semi. No oh wow okay that match add more pivotal <hes> connotations in my mind last year but we'll yeah at the time that makes sense because it was playing well and if one that matched then and who knows you know well on those final but you know who knows could have gotten there. I think she could have made the final last year because she really should have beat naomi but <hes> you know life life. Yeah that was yeah. Fourth-round was giving her a lot just like the rest of these equal giving too much to see if a big match because i was in the show we in we deepen these rounds in the heat get to me. Burton's here in gurgaon is here becky is here at gerbers mice sneak in the semi somehow. She's not had a great year. Now you always wanna say you always want to say is gonna make a run somewhere but then she never does my she made the wimbledon siamese last year and that's the only slam semi she's been to well. She's not good with momentum. Once is playing well. She doesn't contain you is just like up and down and then down down down down and then up and then down down down yes. He's a very streaky type player. I don't know that whole sections kind of wide because like if naomi goes out it's who else doc was healthy. Then i feel like she would be showing for <hes> for the seminars here at least but <hes> i'm not sure aura lancaster streaky burton's just ballooning all over the place like she burns hasn't won anything. Since what madrid i think jinx the fuck outta that girl i do because she s she has not done well since. I said that she was going to possibly win. The french open like she with a top contender. It's just been it's been awful since then dobbin good. I think what it was you know when she got sick and had to miss swirling garros spin off since then jew from roland garros with the stomach bug new said go take a shower and get back on court. It might have been a virus if she she hasn't been right since though like i thought but it is hard courts i mean she's she's kind of a clay girl even though she wants since last year since last year saying because nobody talked about it going in the sense you this year you burton's hasn't made the round of sixteen at any slam this year. Who look that's not a good look. That is not why. I didn't realize that <hes> and she's topped him. Yeah wow that's that's. That's purely because of madrid at this point so that's the thing like this point to be in the top ten. You ain't got to do a lot. I mean some three events and she's thank you gotta having one good result and you hand that is true yeah madison one medicine. She's got to okay. That's charleston idols. Hey that's from me honey aw but yeah i mean like sloan. She's been doing nothing all year. She's he's just got out the top so now it is what it is. These ladies the filled field as deep. We'll just say that. The girls are playing. Well <hes> anything else in that section. That's just one quarter of hit us. Next section belongs to simona holiday the number four seed. She opens versus nicole gibbs. Hey gives me welcome back. Welcome welcome back hit girl. <hes> shibata get dragged yeah girl. I'm sorry it we'll see on the network good luck. I slammed back or yes. He didn't play yeah okay yeah. That'd be sexy. Get that drago yeah <hes> sandy. Any aqaba is here. She plays kerr. Stay <hes>. You wang bosniak do we think do we think she's going to stick around after this year you know i feel like this might be the end for i mean i don't want it to like her but like she's having issues clearly right the chiefs play the song i think she did. Thanks you just lost right per. She was just getting her sb all over north north america and if she's not getting to like you know the good rounds and losing two good players. She's losing everybody the true yes. She might hang up the other part of her. Life is great right now so it would make sense at this time. She got us lamb. She can go have one one to two kids lit de fabulous life. My girl is she's really dropped dropped off. She really has it's been yeah. She's still top twenty though it's good money at the very least mugabe bianca andrea skuas here she plays you know. I don't know how to say that name <music> like what is it's weird. She was meant to play. She was meant to play tennis or volleyball but girl. She's from the u._s._d._a. Though so yes she's complained. I'm i'm surprised but i wrote it in seventeen years. Wow young okay all right well. You don't get your ass be champ champ for candidate sorry. I don't know yeah but good on you girl get into the major. That's exciting seventeen. Do you think sloan stevens is here. What is that name. I'll say that one calendar scion <hes> sloan's opponent kalinka. I dunno. I have no idea cleanse. Kalinski kalin skies yeah okay <hes> since he finalists coups nets. That's a vase here cozy play well to get to their final i was. I was shocked because she just came back yeah. I was very surprised to see her planning that will especially the way she got dismantled by <unk>. Just like the week prior right that was those us something but shout to her. Sloan is one of the scouts that she collected the net run and they would meet in the second round table. Get through the first shit. He and cousy generally likes the u._s. Open court. She's just gets shitty. Draws my sociology hopeless. She's a little tired as a weeks weeks-long gotta push through. We gotta show come out. We own petra converted here. She's back back from her she. She had a wrist injury right. Oh you're like elbow or something like that. It was her arm in arm injury. In her life. She plays alto visa and then we have asta pinko anco risk mugabe russa mertens oslo in this section impact that risk <unk> might be something to say really really my risk while she played very well in the grass. I'm not sure how she's been. Dormant hardcourts courts but mugabe has not been playing very well as of late and risks at home so you know i it could be something risk is capable. Let's just leave it at that. I agree the next quarter top seed caroliina pletikosa. She gets martincova cova. I think that's what that is. That is mm-hmm. Selena is here. She plays a cigar a._m. And then the victor from a venus jingsi cy match would meet the winner of this selena o._c. Guay match yes and i would like to see that's not gonna happen on and then zillion as basically venuses new red wasco so <hes> yeah so far y'all thing not gonna go round around of course of course i want to go four and of course i want to. You know have everything great nor but you know suspect. Alina is is a tough out for her these days ear she is. I will say this looked better in cincy than she's looked for a minute. I will say that yeah. It's interesting to me that this hardcore this summer hard court season. She has returned to her o._g. Service motion genres back yeah so now what are the differences so after after oh three when she had the app tear. She started bending her legs more using more legs to to get into the services. If you look at two thousand three or earlier there's not a whole lot of legs is just a very quick back up motion. There's no okay so that was good and she's gone. She's gone back to that and i don't know if that's the coach's influence because from what i understand stance she's known this coach for a very long time and maybe he had her go back to the original motion <hes> but at the same time i don't understand how using less of your legs and your service motion is going to help your elbow because that's right for her right. I don't understand the choice behind it. I just thought it was interesting. <hes> uh-huh yeah. I'm not getting any. I mean we'll see how it all works out see as long as she feels more comfortable with it. You know yeah yeah she did. She is getting a little more pace on it this summer than she has been yeah. That's for sure we'll see severe canonists here. She plays a van away back. Did you hear about mandalay's injury like that was some crazy. I don't even know i don't even know what happened. <hes> basically she has she got some kind of lake nerve disorder and so she was like in chronic pain had had some taper procedure done and had to relearn how to walk and all that yeah it was sung whole ordeal. It was crazy shit yes yeah. She had a very rare like nerve disease. I don't know that if you're interested check out the deputy insider interview she did because it was really good. Actually you know cocoa like that but i've been out here talking all this mess about her girl. I'm sorry you know as he was injured and she talked about her. She was depressed and stuff. 'cause you know she couldn't play <hes> yeah so <hes> that was a long way of saying that. She's probably don't lose first round but hey she's after you. Lose first round candidates playing very well right. She's very very low yeah since he champ keys here she sees take a c- keys coming out of this section you yeah yup as long as as long as she can. You know raymond raynham strokes in and keep it keep her shit. She'll be fine listen. I have never seen her move will as she was moving in since i was in shock like that's that's that's that makes a big difference when you can improve your move like that. I have never seen her move there well like she wow has been putting in the work. I guess because you know if you can moved where you can play baseball you want to you you know yeah i mean it definitely cut down on her ears. Here's a bit she seemed to have control which was nice but with keys. You know mental she. He starts feeling that pressure. It's a wrap yup. What <hes> i think <hes> i think so i think she'll she'll be fine especially here because apparently likes plain here because she what finals in twenty seventy and what you do semi's or quarters last year yosemite. I think yes yup semi's last year so you know she <hes> she hasn't. She hasn't lost before the fourth round here since twenty fourteen. Oh wow that's good pretty consistent actually so she is so she's going pretty good new york so i think i come out of this but salina's past the fourth round oh here or anywhere else she does. She made a couple of one or two quarters. Maybe she made the wimbledon semi this year. Oh bitch neither sir. I m e don't recall <hes>. She doesn't colder some paris melbourne. Who who did she play in the semi's. It wasn't serena so hala yeah. Oh yeah that is right plead streets. We have a accountable cuts akina first round. Can they both lose right that right right. What the hell that's going to be. A concert should win. Kazatchkine has been bad all year all year. She's been trying to like she launch. She finally unseated but damn it's been. It's been a long road yeah. It really hasn't been good. I think which is losing record on the year. It wouldn't surprise me. Sometimes you know all it takes is for the other girls in the locker room to figure out what works against you in an essay you. Just you know you have that one season in this. Everybody says she has like john. Mcenroe like talent though with her hands and all that who who is who say who is everybody. I've heard a few coaches say that. I was just listening to podcast. We're kafelnikov said said that <hes> gimmie dat people yeah. You've any said that <hes> <hes>. He said he was really disappointed. In how she fell off too he was like i would you know give advice yes but she hadn't asked. I think they're giving our too much. Never saw it always all people compared to raf aw because of the spin now now that any i thought she was more radwan scoot. If anything maybe like a nickel askew let shave traditional nickel less. I would say more of four ars navarro competancy for real because she she doesn't really have she doesn't really have much power on her shots. She gets a lot of those bags. She plays with a lot of spin then you know yeah you're right. That is a good or a better comparison there but yeah people think she's very gifted geeing no she's not the last quarter belongs alongside ashleigh barty. She plays arena be as i barter. You guys seems easy. He's until she gets soccer sakari playing that ah yes you can be marty. Oh i could see it happening barney inc the girl a lot of people make her to be and that's specs rex. I mean i think i think her best results is still gonna come on the grass because so that slice. I still see her coming there. I am still very very shocked about this french open title and even the miami title but i don't know i i. I'm like middle ground on her like. I don't think she's like going to be some dominating player number. One talk like that but i think she can consistently be top eight five and maybe a couple of more slams because if the the opportunities there why not yeah. I guess you don't see it for her. I don't mean that i don't mean a bad way but it's just like if another player comes along. I just see her time being real short when she can make a semi. You know keep acute like that but i don't know. I don't really see another slam common thing like i. I feel like she could certainly have a follow. A a fall off like a sprinkle did spank won the french and then that other smaller tournament in the fall of that year in okay ostapenko was absolutely training. I don't think the body was dreary no but i think other people are more likely to tree on bardy right okay. I see that i see that like i just outta cincy. Some someone beat her at cincy real bad and i was like oh okay you. You know there's just like oh. I just i do think that we're living in the land of of a holiday and angelique kerber winning wimbledon and who was that girl that made the final france and yeah so i just feel like <hes> anything is possible. You're you're right. It's just serena has to get out of the way and then but i still see people like a soccer she'd be winning more often but but but it's like like kenan beater in toronto and then who's nestle the beater since oh 'cause nestle beater ass yeah. That's what it was straight fits. Yeah people were trying to compare her game. This lettuce saint bardy yeah no not at all. No that's the streets in spain who got that power. She's she's on. She can hit anybody off the court party. I was like have i not seen sped up play lately. I mean everything on court but oh my gosh and they athleticism you. Kidding she spent in like oh nine was a force just she was crazy. Movement no body wishes bodyguard can't do that embodies bharti backhand hold like that no saying but the the two handed on hold on like that they're both they're both <hes> a little bit wonky but why does he still have a two-handed anyway. She's like steve johnson like just go get one hander. It's very weird to have the you know that strong slice like that that you use news more than the two handers so why not just have a one hander no because y'all y'all are legit blowing my mind right now because because i'm trying to picture her hit both too heavy back in. I don't see it. She does it. It's it's very <hes> it's very kitschy. Yeah absolutely she doesn't hit it very often. Excuse not a natural stroke for her very very sandy did it yes he is. He's very sam so live almost exactly like him so maybe she can hear her as cross-court <unk> except in two thousand ten during serena dern during serena match that's the only time ever seen across core banking and that was a shank well. Every every dog has her day you know but <hes> i mean i think we'll be okay in the straw but she it does not bad. Sakari sakari could play well and take her out. I don't know how kerber is playing right. Now like would would what is going on. Where where's she been who knows some fourteenth seed this lowest number by her name in a while but i feel like that's s. The number that should have been by her name the whole time yeah so <hes> i don't know what he had. This little section right here plays out 'cause i. I don't really see i don't really see bharti in the quarter here and i don't really see kerber and a quarter now and she's paying a dentist and the dentist on the right they can be jazz this to you never know it'll be horrible but today an who else is in that little section. We have several stover bouchard we have oh oh we have done girl. Shies away is here. You're clean she yes you will be serena's third round now so okay number number <hes> she's playing. That's the name i haven't seen since charleston twenty forty <hes> <hes> and then of course you know the big show stopping popcorn. Match is a serena dober- first round. We have a friend of hours who has been claiming this first round literally all of twenty nineteen and here we are. I did not think he was actually going to happen. I thought okay at worst like a second or third round but this is this is this is what they rigged up and i do mean it when i say i really pogo was gonna screw n._c. Serena won last time but he we are. I mean the first hour playing in new york and it's the first time in new york in the first round like i just can't like i couldn't believe it when they when they announce off. The draw couldn't believe what was just laughed. It was it was comical. I couldn't believe it. I'm i'm very excited. I'm also very nervous like i always am but yeah yeah i i look forward to it and as tomorrow night and i can't wait tomorrow night the first night we pop in on okay okay crazy right. I knew it was gonna open the event with that. I i can't believe posed about two. Oh my gosh she's been having some sort of a pain or some sort of issue. Oh tom who actually already c._b._r._e. Let me go there. I mean i'm not saying she's not gonna come out for the match. I'm just saying <music> now. I think they're gonna play but only gonna play and it's going to be the lights out. You know you know martha gonna come out there but everything she got. They better check something. That's all i got to say. It's for her wrist. Apparently she had the physio out for a whole practice there the jerez and she didn't serve it all so <hes> oh she's really gone to match without survey <hes> so i honestly i think if the if if not for this first round matchup she would have already giving us her retirement announcements during the the pre-tournament press but now she's waiting because she's got a place arena. That announcement is coming. Y'all is comic. She literally can't play more than one. That and it's yeah i mean three is pushing it as she played. What does he play now. I know some some turn it. This here was the first time she'd played like now. I'm thinking of venus. Step that remind no state but <hes> yeah. I don't think she played three matches this year. Now oh yes. She did at the australian open because she lost to bharti around those third. I thought it was at least abc's a bit. She hasn't been in a second week. We're not no let me say me. Check 'cause could very well have been i think i think that's the only time this year she has coming off. It all seasons becoming very true does she does. She have the coach didn't she was around sixteen presets. Oh my god to <hes>. I don't know if she there was somebody that she was. Let me check real quick. There was somebody that i saw like an italian coach that she was working with coming into this u._s. Open series better to remember. The name matter deleted ricardo piazzi. That's who the is working with. That's right. She said she led hawks dead. Maybe she'll get spend back now. No it won't but i mean might as well go out on top if he came of what took my name on top of what be sadie before this match any good karma <unk> communist row you're right. You're right. You're right. We should be nice so semi-finalists. I have asaka andrea skew cannon and and serena osaka <unk> keys inserting okay well y'all put me on the spot <hes> for sure have serena of got sloan sloane <hes> what's that other girl name asaka gurgles in and for people yes two of them were in the same section. Yeah who's in the same section. I'm going asaka. Anger is okay. I've got girgis then pushpa yeah <hes> <unk>. Oh no not plus the <hes> cannon candidate yes unlikely but serena i'm like with around because i'm playing painkillers because like y'all know have noticed in shore line. These is girls. Don't make the quarterfinals after they win aslan so <unk> under could punch alibi the fourth round for all we know with regarding. Please do it yeah. That's i would like to see it. I liked and rescue her fine can you. I'm so ready to stand like i like. I really like her. I liked her when she went to near wells up like oh. This girl is good. I like ask go get her body right. 'cause she. Keep like falling apart after she after she ponies well then he has to start winning. Masses more concisely isolated quickly because she's just wasting too much time on court. You play five matches in this. All three sets like going to be tired. You can be especially like unclaimed back back right. She's got her serve together because i mean look at how she used to do the same thing and now now she can win pretty quickly. That's true that's true. She's very young so she has time to work on that stuff out. Before coming up comes in oh yeah before it cocoa cocoa gunston hatch okay are we onto into the man yup yeah withdrawals. I have delport course who is still out but hopefully returning soon we have kevin kevin anderson person who's out with a back injury that he's had for quite some time <hes> and then donald mackenzie mcdonald didn't have him around him down. Nope number one seed of course novak djokovic plays carajas diana. Nobody could get querying around to which stages played in came up last time. They played a little bit of trouble for novak. Catch them early enough right. <hes> frank is here. He plays center gets polka. That's interesting basha v li-fu kovic net should be craca fritz lopez says and of course my boy medved here 'cause i've decided i'm a fan. He plays <unk> <hes> <unk> very good section. Mike is a very good draw for the quarterfinals. Yes i agree too. I think so too 'cause i think <hes> i think oprah could could take any out around one <unk>. Just gonna lose around three 'cause he's not gonna make it therefore so must see i see the section fallen apart for even if funding he it gets through i think <unk> can handle him to do and then we joke which is gonna blow to his section so yep yep quarter so y'all think owen joke which probably i mean a specified. It would be nice if medvedev one. I would love to see it but tone. I just don't i don't think just yet. It wouldn't surprise me if it happened in australia next year or something. You know what i'm saying not this not this tournament hermit especially with all contenders has played into three three straight finals during the u._s. Open series anybody come in during the specified he he's going to have to win his matches in straight-sets any chance after his data since he when he was like i played thirty straight days. I was just like jesus yeah. He's like i'm so tired into lear us. Well hopefully hopefully they'll soften. Hill soften joke mich up at least for federer. Somebody 'cause federal. Gordon are getting to the semi speaking of that a section. Nobody's there <hes> he plays the golfer's round who dude coast driver first round. You have nishikori damon around. Its torch engulfing here so this is a cake anime this his section. If you m nishikori place he does he can play well new york but like same thing that he has to win his matches in straight-sets to have any shot donovan anything because he wears he should the nishikori <unk> is quite paper like but you know he's always injured so right and he just makes it worse by playing five cents in every <hes> he. He said he was having trouble breathing lately too so watch traffic at lord yeah for this whole this whole thing is just i mean talk about a cakewalk talk about cakewalk migrant set a veteran one. That's titles in two thousand eight zero. That's over ten years ago that is mind blown though they're not going to like he wanted a couple of years ago uh-huh one side of what he did five in a row right around and made the final in nine dope ultra beat them in is just he's not been lapped him off that court and things have not been the same sense 'cause then joke vichit that happy shot in two years in a row yeah got him out in the semi's and he was. I was too 'cause i couldn't stand. We're better and i never liked them like that. No low point. It's gonna be interesting to see better work his way through though because he federal laws to medvedev right in cincy and now he lost a rube lab rubel less than an hour joe he got bragged. It was crazy to see. I think it's gonna be interesting to see how federal plane of people talk about that a wimbledon final mess him up or whatever whatever having two consecutive match points and losing my <hes> losing in a tiebreaker like that you know what the real gaga's agassi that he did that ten years after andy roddick pretty much almost the exact same thing to him. Yup yup was like the universe was just kinda laughing a little bit on that don't feel bad about it out for andrew roddick. I mean <music> honestly like if he loses with this draw here like if he don't make the semi's like girl okay now. It's time to reassess because you know last year. He got slapped out of the tournament too. So i mean that was he was pissed to. He's trying to put a little revisionist history on that. I heard him tell swiss reporters. He had a little back injury last year. Oh king <hes> her your back with her. Yeah oh yeah he wasn't able to train. Oh yeah or grandpa yeah. You know it's going to happen. The next section dominic team is the four seed. He plays plays fabiano team. Could literally lose any round. You know real. Has anybody seen him practice or anything. I don't watch what i do so i don't know because he was supposed to be sick like what kind of sick like he had some kind of virus where he pulled out of sincere toronto one of the two ono it'd be. It's gonna be interesting to watch team here because like you said you could lose. Anybody and he's also defending quarterfinal points this year. Yeah remember that crazy match with russia. They were playing to like four a._m. Ridiculous no then he liked bagel. We're off in the first eight or something. I remember that it was really bizarre. It was horrible. I was disgusted sounds looking like really office going out like a punk like this so the since he drunkenly says illness. It doesn't say what so we don't know okay. I didn't even notice but i mean he's. It's not really much to see on hardcourts anyway. No he's not you have a felix. Al-jaili zine versus shop of vala first round this fucking braff raff man <hes> they played the same round last year and felix had to retire with that really really scary heartbeat ordeal yeah so hopefully at the very least this this year they can finish the match and actually you know be out there. Playing healthy both them <hes> totally pulling for felix but he hasn't exactly lee been playing super. Well on hard courts so we'll see. I think shop was playing better now. Yes it did play better in winston salem this week. He's working with us any supposedly really <hes> that's interesting. I didn't know using was in the coaching room me either me either but you know <hes> shabaab is russian through like like his mom or some some faces here here. He plays roma's manolas. I think mafiose might go far. Y'all with this draw. It's too easy not to but then his mafi your he'll find a way to lose does he should at least make quarters withdraw. Okay well or a four pound. He's jim's life or lose first. You don't know with him. What version is going to so what week doc. I'm not giving them much of anything. I don't expect much from him but at the same time he's not. I've been playing super duper well so he could also make a run. You know what i'm saying like if he if he had made a run in toronto or montreal than i would say okay he's. It's definitely gonna lose early because that pressure is going to be too much and he can't deal with that but you know. I mean who knows this a toss up. I would like to see him play well. That'd be great. It is here placed pushkin curious here. He sees steve johnson in the first round and then sec- classes here playing in rubles. That's a tougher rounder it is and so i looked up their head to head because i just had to and they went five sets of milan last this year which of course is best of four game sets instead of six but right and then they're only other match was brou- lift being him at a challenger in twenty seventeen so these mike inspite of like their rankings of stuff. These young matchups very interesting because it'll be like sometimes the low ranked player who has the advantage with these matchups jobs. They're very individual right. That's interesting. It's gonna be interested in the same because we're playing pretty well right. Now and steph hasn't been mclane very well since he picked up the injury in washington now he picked him. Entering washington. Get pretty was that was that where he played cheerios yeah that he's had his head that his leg like strapped up for a while after that he hasn't played well since i would also say he hasn't been playing well since the wrinkle match. That's what i would say because he also went what oh in two or all. Yes i would say it's been a while uh-huh. I don't think he's that good on hardcourt. Either 'cause like he always has some kind on a little crazy match like those matches with medvedev. He had at miami tiahrt something where you would think he could kind of go through but he doesn't though he's not boy. I don't really watch them that much. He's my boy. He made the semi's in melbourne so but isn't and then like his one good hard court results i mean he has like two harper titles. He didn't uh well. Hey go ahead a steph announced. You do you think i just. I think you're gonna beat him. Curious makes it that far. If i say if around sixteen at a slam <hes> probably pathway a couple of years ago i'm looking at that. If i get back to you i'm pulling it up right now to <hes> number twenty team team melbourne twenty eighteen and then before that it was wimbledon twenty sixteen day before that it was in twenty fourteen okay so did here's so he'll do nothing until the next year. Well keep moving on l. I think it's just going to be are coming out of the section jeff think he might come through it to wow that also i'll be on the same page. That's why have rundown west so the last section of course ruffin a daubing the second seed. He opens versus john millman who was fetters capture last year. That's beat federalized here now. Remember that uh-huh. I was watching that he fell off though yeah then points about the fall off though so yeah yeah but that was very very funny last year it was very enjoyable literally melt and this crazy though because he's he's bright. He's like sixty eighty seven right now or something like that those points with those points right next quarter final points and those about to come off so easily. I'm so sorry john yeah he's spat to those challengers futures streets that he's used to see ya we have twenty fourteen champ chilies jillette here versus cleese on chile was playing very very not great tennyson to he came up on felix and decided that he wanted to play tennis n._s. Again this summer. I was disgusted. I'm pissed but even still i see veto is losing in the first round the cleveland yes now. I'm telling you i just i'm not feeling for him. I'm not feeling and if it's not if he doesn't wanna moving around to who we get around to crying a bit okay well that can happen the i got him into the third round at least listened <unk> <unk> to to who knows i think strips gonna take out is ner. At least i'm hoping please yeah i'll even have isn't it written down so only thing only the thing we know only thing i know for sure about this section is that the dow is coming through because his his everybody else in his. He's a quarter right. Here's him bid is not much going on here. Yeah you got hats an off pospisil tee-off oh versus karlovic <hes> and the winner of that match will likely plays vary of who has album the first round but you know who knows what round sasha's going to lose two so never known. I hope we get flow in sasha's <unk>. That'd be a good match and maybe fo could win but they don't have any faith in him right now. Either i <unk> ice age. We are going to be calling. I don't see him beaten. I'm not gonna watch any of it. I can't watching. You can't watch the f. o. I can watch him the way he plays and the things he does is like he's just going out there and swing and there's no strategy. There's there's no sense to what he's doing out on that court and i can't watch it gets on my nerves. I get very very agitated because he does a lot of stupid shit even in a matches he wins. He's doing a lot of stuff. He plays. He's still plays like junior but you're not a junior anymore. This year pro. I needed to grow and evolve and it's not so he nerves but i am cheering cheering for him. I just can't actually watch matches. You need to get together after you know. I thought after that australia quarter-final you know things are looking up for him but yeah. It's been crap percents when he went to his very next tournament loss i notice it. He might be a low jinks lakey but it's okay pitiful. Now james blake titles. The neons way got to number four in the world very true this time for him to get there but he was also extremely frustrating too. I will give view there was a but i also watched both of them for the exact same reasons <music> okay anyway a songa songa song and connects all also in this section very. I'm very very happy. Marcus chong <hes> chung on may have to make its equalities which was impressive to see him do that. I'm not. I don't think you china's his slant on his harcourt's again. He's not learning india. Everybody's lives in a hard course these days though okay but not everybody ends up with two andrew's than six month. Layoff does rothen joke bitch. They've really slide anymore on the records. I know joke. Mitchell's sound like a joke average vistas. I don't think also does but joke joke of g._m. He's the he's not sliding at the back of the court much anymore. He sliding like if he's getting onto the name you know that's the only time yeah they're not doing this anymore. The media indonesia no houses. You got to do something the playtime thirty five whoa chunk. I think they both have winnable rounds so <hes> hopefully they can win a match to. I feel i cook. Innocous will lose a chung. He can squeeze out a match so he's been playing pretty well. He looked. He looked pretty good in <hes>. Where the hell was he playing acapulco. Listen not poco san jose okay okay. I was like acapulco. That's a while okay san jose. Okay okay a in kabul. Oh my god yes yes sarah's as the ladies. He looked pretty good there so you know he was serving well i was the main thing about him that i was worried about serving because he just recently picked up pectoral injury so you know he hit you. Fuck these seven pretty good so hopefully he can at least win this round. He's not gonna be ruffo so i feel bad. He was my favourite australian but he has like he has injuries like he's on steroids album tears and all that john it is very said but yeah <unk> through okay so semi-finalists. I have jovic federer r._b._a. Day and i wrote down for rb because i actually wasn't expecting yata agree with me on this. I wrote down some reasons and his both of his best slam. Lamb results have come in tune in one thousand nine making australian open quarterfinals in the women's semi's he had never been past the fourth round of a slam before this year so <hes> yeah it's in looking pretty good for him to have another strong though if he can come through this section and then of course it all at the bottom so three the top three rb gay you too yeah who's your winner on. I got take my title <hes>. I'm gonna go novak when the soap your own where. I hope i'm wrong but that's what's going with yeah. It's more than likely going to be a novak win. Probably a bootie twins slam coming through. Y'all know what i feel about these top three. They can also know anybody to win. Anybody else can win. It's wasting kamal. They can all go well. I saw rapid a win. So is everybody under the bus until rough retires. I'm tired. I'm tired of hearing just catch bed so then fans could see well. Don't worry honey. Novak is going to pass both awesome who talk about that who cares about that. I mean whatever her. I can't believe they let him come in and run shop like this few believe their number is i'm just i you just never ever thought yeah well. He didn't have nobody to wear them down like raffles too busy wearing now fed then murray try to wear down joke rich but he couldn't be joked rich either. He just tag team on fettering adults this whatever they're all the best. It's just don't wanna talk about that. That's how it always. It's come down me moving on now. Hopefully this is a good tournament like the wimbledon was just fucking. Born is hell like nothing in great happened. Yeah it was dry. The final was good but even like the real. T. was the best the tennis came from three net mixed doubles match when she was doing all this crazy return earns and hitting winners and stuff back that was crazy that was that was unnecessary of the tournament whiz serena and andy playing together that was it yeah manella munlochy finals could have been potential but you know things happen like did they even have the wimbledon ball. This year didn't even talk about that. They definitely did. I saw i saw pictures. Even though i was trying to avoid them they definitely do <hes> uh-huh or at least they had the photo shoot where they were just up for it so okay yeah. I am excited for the catsuit way. We're getting the cats. Were getting another cat suit and with these colors the nike colors are like why in purple and black so this this fire how uh-huh hold on now yeah so. I was looking the other day because i was just looking at the nike kits. You know that picture with t._i. Fo- keeps coming up yeah and so. I actually like click the link and went to see like what everybody was wearing. I did not think there would be anything about serena there but let me see if i can find it. It was like okay it says athlete on court looks continue the tonal theme serena williams wearing a custom nike court body soup will tie up a flare knit low with an iridescent edessa. He'll drawn from the city's. Oil slick streets printed on the heal. Our williams career wins at flushing meadows world. Yeah gosh three none of bodysuit as be amazing. We colors so ready because i'm producing we'll be black and purple bodysuit or sharipova. Oh my god. I hope she doesn't this hurting something else. She better not is she is she wearing that cropped up thing that warms thinks she was wearing was actually kinda cute at the little she i didn't read read all let me see address dress shoe though to see what actually never mind saying born stuff but around at matter diamonds from what she beat hal up after her return oh my floor oh signing times. I'm excited for the whig because said y'all seen this way. She got on her head. Blinds is very very very very blonde <hes> but it's taking back four yet. It's very serena to win. It's very umbrella for her to win. A slam is she would gino went. Twenty four with with a terrible week is just i'm. I'm okay with this. I'm okay with two seven of bond from the geico. Let these hoes scared. It's so power rankings u. k. I have actually somebody else go first donnie. You've got your list. You go i yeah i guess we don't women or men though women i have to win. I okay <hes> number one keys <unk>. Just just stop before i started anything went women's power rankings israeli wine or reason for anything most of the time because it changes way too often so so i'm about to just run down the list of five keys serena and rescue <unk> in ahead bardy but i took her off in a little stock instead it because i feel like naomi has more more of a chance to do something here. In barton <unk> current ten i have keys number one under number two serena three candidate four and then i put coups nets five. That's a good number five okay well where the my list got serena aw halup undress skew mope applets gupta in there. <hes> soccer almost forgot her. I'm a slat sloan up in there too dependent on draw and one more as the last one <hes>. Let's see who did. I forget <hes> <hes>. Let's throw incomplete two for fun. Were you might as well give us an even tannen. Go one more okay <hes>. Let's see let's see bharti. I didn't even think about her. Yeah okay which is why she sent me on. Nobody's powering a she's number two in the world with her. I don't even know start him right now. Asaka gardy hala push give a sniffling salina's in their serena's in their keys saba lincoln's ten. I think and as somebody else. I don't know martins yeah did we did you say shouldn't be in there to yasser. Okay sloan mona's actually number ten. Okay sloan is tan where i had it wrong with. I forgot petra okay. I forgot she made did stuff yeah whole australian open final. We've oh my god yeah. That'll that'll come up that much. Okay manpower rinkins <hes> okay for the man. I only have four have rafa medvedev medvedev novak and roger. Yes same i got. I got joke of that too. I have that across the montaigne sticks in. I mean it's all pretty self-explanatory like maybe they've had a great open. Series and big are the big through. Nobody else is doing shit. So there you go uh-huh anybody. Else got anything to say a right so <hes> <hes> you know what i always at the end continue to rate and review and subscribe to the podcast on apple podcasts and spotify and google podcasts and everywhere because we are everywhere follow on twitter. The show twitter is at hold your ponytails i am at hey said he baby. I met i know brie brie brie. I i don't think so must step away from her mike well. She's for the tennis so find her and it's another for not the word okay. We already know what there's us. I had to open the door. Yes ask for the tennis. I mean okay yeah. Let's pretty much <hes> you know we. I don't know if we're going to do a mid events show or not. I don't think we were one for the u._s._o. Knock is <hes> this moment that gives us that middle sunday dicso right for now at the open so ooh. What are you going. I'm goin' on august thirtieth through september seconds so right before labor day weekend or manic. Monday crew yeah so i hope school too. I wanna go to that one because then you key and act up and i want to do there and this would've been perfect because this year would have got heckle the doper during a match with serena. Can you imagine to everybody. Body is going to be there so jealous. My gosh what a time yeah. I wish i could see that match now. That is something nineteen to to. All right. Guys will yeah. I really really appreciate that have a lot of fun here. Thank you for coming out again. Yeah we can key in talk. After the the word you will have to work less. Praise are post. Lamb shows are usually nonexistent yeah yeah they don't happen. <hes> talk about this override nice. I just be so depressed. Hope of we'll have twenty four to talk about hopefully job willing. I'm gonna act <unk> okay. Let's get their first okay number now a year right i it's okay yes okay well match inside until we meet again <hes> we'll talk to y'all later uh you later bye isn't <music>. What did i say you didn't hear.

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Is Antonio Brown All-In Or All-Out?

Outside the Lines

22:03 min | 1 year ago

Is Antonio Brown All-In Or All-Out?

"Happy monday kiddos wealth outside the lines. I'm clinton yates to start the week and got a trip down memory lane with serena williams in little league baseball but first we had to california where the oakland raiders and and their star receiver antonio brown appear to have reached a truce with the pro attending a team meeting today that is the big story the silver and black g._m. Mike mayock said yesterday yesterday after brown left camp that it's time to put up or shut up from brown pointing out that he and the issue of wearing a helmet are not ones that are going to work for the raiders. That's got to be put to rest reminder minder. That's not even including the situation unfolded with number eighty four feet a personal show of responsibility that was laughable at best so here's the bottomline he's upset about the helmet issue <hes>. We have supported that we appreciate that okay. We've at this point. We've pretty much exhausted did all avenues of relief so from our perspective. It's time for him to be all in. We're all out drew rosenhaus a._b._c. Aging taking to the airwaves to further brown's case rosenhaus said earlier today on e._s._p._n.'s get up that has clients concern is a safety issue. We still have two additional. No helmet said are getting tested as we speak so we're holding out some hope that will work out if not we'll look at every option. You know perhaps there's another helmet that will work. Maybe we can work something out. That will be custom made for him. This is a new experience for everybody. This is a new rule. I i have never dealt with this issue. The raiders raiders have never were in new territory so we're trying to get this workout plenty of time for the start of the season. Antonio hasn't left camp. He wasn't there yesterday. He's still there in apple valley and hopefully he'll be there in the very near future. I think he will okay player. Long story short dude isn't available for football in a couple of wind sprints during a week to preseason game. Don't exactly have raider fans humming and autumn wind now that abe has turned to the raiders practice facility. Today is that all kun-bae a hall of fame wide receiver. Tim brown joins us on the phone tim. I got asked her thoughts off the rip. I mean what do you feel about how the environment around raiders camp has been considering there's h._b._o. Their a._b._c.'s all over the place. What is it. What do you make of that. Hey man it's just another day in raider canada. She's always something going on. I mean glad sixty years with the raiders. There was always something happening then and <hes> you know as far as i'm concerned you know as long as he's september two nine raise ago and the team eh then. Let's get it done all right. Let's break it down sorta specifically though for me timelines standpoint the first thing that happened was the foot issue. He turns out that he's been at some cryogenic organic chamber. He's got his feet all jacked up. He's putting pictures on the internet. What was your takeaway from that just from sort of personal responsibility level about his body as it n._f._l. Player yeah you know i i i. I haven't done the thing myself a myself that i know plenty of people who have done that and one of the things they tell me is the first thing they tell you before you get into this. Make sure you have your hand and and and the boots for your feet so i don't know how that could have possibly happened and <hes> you know the put him in that position so exactly oh you know what you said. He has to take responsibility for his body and whatever happened with that machine him and i think he is trying to try to do that. A little bit with with a decent amount of quarterbacks threw you in your career in terms of the practice time miss. Where do you think we're going to be what he finally gets back on the field and how that's going to affect the raiders offense but you know that that is interesting thing i think because of the way they practice nowadays i i was probably in oakland. Maybe four or five days off now. These guys probably forty or fifty days off season practicing and doing things together so i don't know if it's going to be that big of an issue because these guys have had plenty of time to get on the same page <hes> but now that we're looking at live bullets preseason games and the games coming up this this is really. When would you want to go out there and make sure that everything that you think is right is right. Do you think that the expectations for a be in this season are going to be too high. Where do you look him overall. It's just the type of wide receiver. He is no expectation to add the roof man no doubt about it. People expected him to come in and do great things <hes> if he's able to if he's been put in a position to do it so there's gonna do that for him. So no i mean hey you know that's the thing and i told i had a conversation with him before and i told him i i know you from a fan base. That is very proud of what what the team has done but at this time it's a little different they are proud and very vocal and they will let you know how to feel so hopefully come on and get out to a good start to put all this stuff and to rest yes and <hes> and just go to receive everybody thinks he could be the raiders even washington training camp on the show. I i've been trying to keep up with the lead ended up again man. He's a kid man and <hes> and i think the raiders have been great job. Bringing in other folks like liens and this young kid from clinton listen. I think it's going to be pretty good also <hes> so it will be on him but i think people don't even look at the hinson make those plays and they can get that done i it should it'd be a great year for the raiders last thing i'll ask him. What do you think about the state of that franchise. Now there's vegas. There's everything that's happened. In terms of the stadium you know it must be forgotten like played for them for so long on kind of weird to see them on the way out from where they've been for so long but i think that you know obviously then guy you know playing up there nine of sixteen years i wanted to see the change say there but one thing was was pretty clear that was that the city of oakland was not going to get this done. They had twenty two years to get it. They've never done so. I think that standpoint meant to see the oakland raiders or the rate of franchise. <hes> have their old stadium. It's going to be an amazing amazing the moment for for franchise and i think it's gonna be great man if they play great football. They don't have to worry about you know if they've been full with other people rate the niche would be there so it's going to be able to do that. Let's paint time they will have their own homemade and that's what it was all about. Tim brown hall of fame wide receiver. Notre dame guy who who in heck of a player in techmo bowl. Thanks for the second time in two straight seasons indycars a._b._c. supply five hundred pocono raceway has been marred art a major accident yesterday feels rosenquist escaped serious injury after a frightening crash on the first lap last year it was robert wickens who could not walk away from the track as he was paralyzed realized from the waist down and driver justin wilson die from injuries from a crash in twenty fifteen wiggins himself says that indycar needs to move on from pocono saying in a tweet how how many times we have to go through the same situation before we can all accept an indycar should not race at pocono. It's just a toxic relationship and maybe it's time to consider divorce. I'm very relieved that everyone is okay from that scary crash when asked for a statement regarding safety concerns at pocono indycar saudi s._p._n. It will not be providing statement at this time time all right. Y'all stopped it matters for the first time defending national champion clemson is number. One in the associated needed press preseason top twenty five poll. The tigers snapped a record tying string of three straight years in which alabama was the preseason number one crimson tide coming off a loss to the tigers and the college football playoff championship our number two georgia's number three and that's followed by number four oklahoma at number five the ohio state university. David blatt has said he has been diagnosed with the former cavs coach has he was diagnosed with the condition which attacks the central nervous system a few months ago. He's experienced. Fatigue weakness in his legs is imbalanced problems in a statement via greek club on the beat goes. Blatt said he will keep working because i am a coach. My job is to lead and teach and inspire a lot of people not being as agile or active doesn't affect my ability to do these things credit steph curry with a big assistant college golf. The warriors star is helping our our university bring back. It's golf team for the first time in decades curry who played golf on his high school. Team is announcing today that he'll financially back to h._p. Teams for the next six is years the two time n._b._a. M._v._p. Said in a statement golf is a sport that has changed my life in ways that are less tangible but just as impactful it coming up. We all remember that fateful day when my favorite athlete serena jamaica williams was brought to tears at the u._s. Open let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly she has no brain however when most nesting doll here's the geico not only saves people money but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious you. You should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer pity in most nesting doll and her lot in life outside. The lines is brought to you by john no order online and track your order in today's b-block. I remember exactly where it was. When serena williams started crying at the twenty eighteen u._s. open she had gotten into an extended role at the chair umpire and eventually tears came out so did mine. Even though i was just watching it on tv the entirety of the proceedings devolved from there permanently marring naomi osaka's tzakas first grand slam title it was an ugly evening for tennis in one that push people further to their extremes on their opinions regarding sabrina since that day the questions of whether she's he's being coached and whether or not the umpires reaction appropriate. They're still there thankfully on his new show backstory which premiered sunday on a._b._c. and can be found on the e._s._p._n. App don van natta goes deep on a moment in time to the sports world never mind arthur ash court will ever forget coaching warning. Mrs williams thinks he gets upset. He's telling you we don't have any coat and i know you don't know that and understand why you may have thought that was coaching from telling you it's not. I don't cheat to win. Rather lose. Undertaking coaching was intense. Chance coaching violation happens when it happens at the moment occurs. What was your reaction shock. I mean because i i've been commentating matches for e._s._p._n. For seven eight years and i can name a handful maybe of coaching coaching violations that i've witnessed in these map and i'd just like what patrick rhonda is not known to be one of those coaches who coaches all the time and you know i didn't understand understand till they showed patrick and when they showed him it was i thought to go forward to go into the net so so many coaches coach during matches. The umpire never says one thing. Was that the appropriate decision that was made in that moment by rama's. I believe it would why he saw coaching going on. This is the most important match of the tournament and he needs to step in. If he sees something that is wrong serena new to a certain extent ramos's mrs reputation and certainly patrick new and everybody in tennis new and in fact in two thousand sixteen venus got into it with him <hes> at the french open overt pissing situation so it doesn't really matter if a player sees a signal from a coach under the i._t._f. Rules all that matters this is at the umpire observes the coach sending the signal. The player is penalized because a player's responsible for the coaches behavior and whether she actually one of that signal or not. I have a hard time believing was the first time it ever happened even if she hasn't been sanctioned for it in the past. Why would he choose that moment in particular stage imagine so important to try the new thing that she had no chance to see. I wondered that same thing uh so. I traveled a wimbledon to ask the only person who knows the answer. You looked at serena. She seemed to look at you. You move your hands back and forth several times. Why did you make that motion. So when i do this motion i do it because i feel serene is in trouble <hes> i. I feel a lot of emotion because it's such a big much for her and i wanna help. That's my job to help her so i do emotion that she doesn't even see actually <hes> but that's why the motion yeah. It's coaching yes coaching. It was the first time patrick you ever sent a signal to serena. Yes and you chose to do it at that moment why but because i felt it was important moments <hes> she was it was probably one of the biggest moment of careers she's immigrants final to equal the record of all times and she's losing <hes> and she's. I feel it's that moment. She's lost on the courts <hes> <hes> so i tried to help her. That's my shovel. You'll find the split. Screen video of the coaching signal didn't air until after the match wanted to get mirada glues reaction to it. We have no audio and find out what he was thinking when serena looked his way you're making the first single. Look watch serena. When you make the second signal here. He seems to be looking over toward you and yes right. Maybe on the jets after serena looks you not. Why do you not not because i'm talking to her so something. I don't see that far. I don't even see her face from there so it's definitely not an eye contact she. She was on the other side of the courts which is really far and adelphia with my the i don't. I should wear blesses glasses so i tell you i don't see her. I don't not because was the one hundred percent because i feel that there is a she understands what i'm saying. That's probably my way of talking under so so you did not because she had looked right at you as you were making the hand motion. I thought she didn't see me okay even if she told me that's not the problem. The question is not whether she's so me or not what's. I don't think that's where the point is. I don't think it will. I think the question is why do all this. Craziness happened and understand why you may have thought that was not. I don't cheat to win. Joins us for miami now don. How're you first question. Listen i want to ask you is. Has anybody told you that their opinion of the situation changed since the first episode backstory air maybe on the margins zhen's clinton but not many people people were so silo during that match there were either entirely in serena's corner entirely and ramos's corner. I feel we brought a lot lot of new information new context new perspective to what happened through the reporting but i've not heard people change their mind go from one side to the other and i think that just shows how divisive this this match was for everybody across the country and around the world one of the things you guys showed is also the real time context of how all this happened is mentioned in the piece. We just aired that you know they didn't show the split-screen during the thing but they also didn't show what happened during the commercial breaks and they were sitting at the chair talk to me a little bit about the production value of how you guys do this to make. I should've told a little bit more than what we saw. Viewers the first time yeah that was the goal of this episode of the goal of the entire series of of back story is to really take viewers i behind the scenes give them new information of sports scandals and controversies they know about we went back and very carefully almost soup ruder film like tried to break breakdown every moment of the match which happened so fast in the broadcast and we discovered in looking at the broadcast the digital recording that there were two pivotal commercial breaks during changeovers when serena williams was speaking with chair umpire carlos ramos. It's the context you need to understand things that followed load and so we show those to sixty second breaks and the conversations that they had on both sides and they're quite revealing. It's been reported today. The carlos from us will not not be umpiring any matches involving serena nor her sisters for people who don't know who he is. You know first of all. That's a pretty stunning piece of information. I think personally but we don't know who he is don. <hes> tell me what you learned about palmas in his history with the tour or carlos rama says backstory. His background is really interesting. He began working working as a chair on pirate the age of sixteen he was doing satellite tournaments in portugal and treating them as if they were wimbledon he had a reputation very early on for being quite rigid a stickler for the rules and it turns out he had quite a long history with serena williams. He's been in the chair for a few dozen of serena's matches and and even last year during the us open clinton there was the match between venus and serena rav was in the chair so they have a background and that background actually played out in this particular match because when rama saw that coaching violation that he called when murata glue patrick maroteaux the coach made that hand signal he knew from past matches is that when serena gets down matches she has a tendency to go back behind the baseline and because of that history that he knew that's one of the reasons he called coaching code violation that was so controversial so he was bringing his experience with serena to that call which we reported in our piece for the very first time lasting lasted on what are some of the other things coming up in this series serena versus the umpires one is personally important to me but officer role and not a whole thing so we got well. You were in the show clinton and you did a fantastic job. Thank you for that. The next episode coming out in the fall. I believe in early november is going to involve the black socks scandals the one hundredth anniversary of that. The episode is entitled the banning of shoeless joe. We're gonna do a through line from shoeless. Joe pete rose seventy years later. He was banned from baseball for from our course betting on baseball and we're going to take it to today and major league baseball embraceable legalized gambling. It's an episode. We're really excited about an early next year. We're going to do the cat hat fishing anti-tabacco one. We're all very excited about it team backstory. He's don van natta. Excuse me messing up your name all of this up on your show. My bad deviate is what i know. He is looking up on your google boxes kiddos. Thank you don. Thank you appreciate it up next. If you like watching kids play baseball has definitely your favorite time of year outside. 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The Sporting Life: 8/16/19

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

36:04 min | 1 year ago

The Sporting Life: 8/16/19

"Welcome to the sporting life with jeremy shop over the next hour tennis analysts. Mary carillo explains why she stands behind her criticisms of serena williams behavior at last year's u._s. Open line police jeremy. I don't like believe and i thought she was acting like a bullet. Bullies have caused every problem the history of our planet and i thought that torino was trying to believe that chair and he didn't take plus raiders preseason play by play broadcaster. Beth moen's discusses gusts the challenges facing jon gruden in his return to the n._f._l. I think everybody was frustrated with the record last year and you can give these guys tough love and sprinkle frankel and something for the for the younger guys to make them feel appreciated and may help them to understand how much you care about this. This is the sporting life on e._s._p._n. Radio and the e._s._p._n. App here's jeremy shaft welcome to another dish of the sporting light later in the show so we'll be speaking to two of the most prominent broadcasters in the sports t._v. Industry beth moen's of c._b._s. sports e._s._p._n. And barry carrillo of h._b._o. N._b._c. sports and the tennis channel will be talking about the state of tennis with mary but before we get to that we'll talk about little recent tennis history with their own don van natta junior his new series backstory. It premieres sunday on a._b._c. One o'clock eastern time with the first of five episodes in this first season the first episode serena versus the umpire and it is a pleasure to welcome to our show again don van natta junior junior. Thank you jeremy great to see you don. I'm really excited about the show and the series in general <hes> what is the story. You're telling here about serena lena and what happened in the us open women's final in two thousand eighteen while last year's women's final. If you remember serena was going for history she was trying to tie. Hi margaret court's record of twenty four singles titles and he's been trying for awhile for awhile but we all felt going into that that she was going to win. This was gonna that'd be a coronation. She was going against twenty year old. Now naomi osaka which people really had some doubts about whether she had any chance to beat serena serena was her idol and as as we all can recall a year later the clash that occurred between serena williams and the chair umpire carlos romo's of portugal basically became a story much bigger than tennis it was about gender it was about race there were divided friends and families and so we decided to go back slow everything down because as you know how in the world today people make judgments instantly hundred forty characters and that's what happened here and we really wanted to slow everything down zapruder film like almost show each of the three code violations that were called by rama's against serena williams see why they happened what happened behind the scenes and then also dig deeply into the aftermath well you know it's interesting because because i know i think we were speaking when you decided this would be one of the top export the series and the other topics <hes> they. We're a little bit <hes> more in our rear view mirror. They weren't quite as recent and there were <hes>. There were more obvious unknowns with some of the other the things we were talking about like <hes> for instance demand taito situation from almost seven years ago now. How does the serena story with carlos ramos fit fit into the context of what the concede is for the series. Well it really is trying to explore the story behind the story and so my goal is reporting as the title backstory exactly and the back story back story. I'm point every back story of any story that you've done in your fridge army or that. I've done is always more interesting. The story behind the story is always the story that in-depth journalists investigative journalists try to find out you're right that this was only a year old but we began gann reporting this as early as november of last year where we started sitting down with people on camera <unk> months after exactly where still fresh in everybody's mind and we felt that there there was a lot of ground to cover you know serena insisted during that matches we can all recall. I don't cheat. This is a matter of character <hes> what rama's called on that coaching code code violations. She said i never have gotten coaching so we just wanted to even just on that moment. Look deeply and see how often did hear her coach patrick murata glue send then coaching signals. I interviewed a interviewed him for the episode at wimbledon this year. He said it was the first time ever he sent a coaching violation. Coaching code a coaching a signal to who serena and so just even that particular moment. I think viewers are going to be very surprised about what we found out. Serena looked right at the box as patrick murata glue who sent the signal and we see in a split screen murata glue nodding <hes> serena's looking as he's sending the signal and at wimbledon. I asked him a very simple question. Why did you not did you feel that actually serena had seen that signal and then we found out exactly why carlos romo's called the code violation didn't speak to him didn't speak with serena grena but found out what people around rama's why he called the code violation which has never been reported before and send our episode where speed divan don van natta junior about his is new series backstory. It's premiering this weekend on a._b._c. It'll be on e._s._p._n. And e._s._p._n. Plus and e._s._p._n.'s app all week long as well so <hes> starting this week. I should say the first one the first episode is serena versus. The camp and you know it's interesting thing because <hes> sometimes journalism people don't want to see how the sausage is made and this isn't necessarily as much journalism story as some of the other things things that i know you're focusing on but when you do that what is it like approaching people to talk about something that has been controversial that they're not aren't necessarily eager to revisit not easy and particularly on the five topics that we've chosen for the first season. These are topics that a lot of the protagonist don't wanna revisit but we're not gonna let let's say manto decides not to sit down with us for that particular episode decide whether we're going to do it or not <hes> ah serena williams as i said didn't sit down with us nor did carlos ramos <hes> but we still feel talking to members of their camps and the reporting we got that we got a lot of new information information this shows conceit though jeremy is a journalism journey and and it's my journey and it's done differently rather than regular voice overs i speak very conversational almost podcast style of what's in my head as i take each step and hopefully there'll be an audience for that that will be interested in sort of the search for truth about a topic pick that people think they know but we feel there's a lot more ground to <hes> to to cover and a lot more information to uncover <hes> you know it's interesting with serena and we get into this a little a bit later in the show and we talked to mary carillo <hes> we recorded her interview before i am now speaking to you and she talked about how how difficult it is sometimes to cover serena <hes> because she has such presence in the sport and she's meant so much to it and there's a very good case of course be made a convincing case that she is the greatest female player ever but <hes> sometimes any kind of criticism of her has been shut down amount and she is shut <hes> she shut out people who have criticized her. How how fraud has that been in terms of getting people to talk about her very very difficult and <hes> we've had more than one person say to us. You're either one hundred percent with serena or you're against her so even in persuading people to sit down and revisit at that match they i think there were making the calculation what what whatever i say. Is that gonna upset serena or her camp so it was a challenge <hes> but i think that we were able to overcome it with a lot of new information and <hes> and you know we'll see look patrick. Murata google serena's coach now for seven years who sent the coaching signal that started this whole drama during the us open final last year. He said he sat down with me. <hes> at wimbledon gave a great interview very revealing but he said to me before the army. He said i wouldn't be here if serena didn't allow me to do it so he had serena's blessing to do it but it's an incredibly revealing interview particularly about that i coach coaching code violation as i said i'm really looking forward to it <hes> to this show and the rest of the series <hes>. We've got five episodes coming up in the next few months. It's don van natta. Juniors new series backstory first episode again can be seen sunday. One o'clock eastern time on a._b._c.'s serena arena versus the don. Thank you so much for having joined us. Thanks german great to see you. This is the sporting life on e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. radio and the e._s._p._n. App it's a pleasure now to introduce our next. Guest really is someone who needs no introduction simply one of the best broadcasters and journalists in the business for decades now the one and only mary carillo joins us mary. Thanks for being with us. Thank you for that introduction my friend mary your journalist your color commentator. You're someone who played the game at its highest is level. You do so many things so well. What what are you you know. How do you these days. Divide up your time with so many responsibilities. Yes i work for a couple of networks <hes> so i just <hes> covered. The canadian opens in montreal and toronto last week for tennis channel they also for n._b._c. Tokyo olympics will be my fifteen charming wow fifteen. That's crazy yeah exactly. I look for a show on h._b._o. Coal oh real sports ryan campbell that i truly enjoy as well <hes> and i'm adding to my pointy headed resume <hes> by working for animal planet this december doing what they can do. The dog show i do dog shows for n._b._c. now. I'm doing my first for animal so at this stage in my life. I'm sixty years old. I figure i'm gonna do this stuff. I love and i love dogs doing a lot of the stuff you love. It seems not just a little of it at this point yeah. It's kinda nice. I seem to continue to get some work and <hes> it's it's fun stuff. It really is fun stuff. I i already shot what <hes> three stories for next year's olympics and i think tokyo gonna be terrific <hes> and it will be interesting as far as the the tennis goes at the olympic games will be the final olympics for roger federer and rafael nadal and probably venus and serena <hes> <hes> and <hes> hope. You know andy murray if he can make it. They're jovovich. Mike play one more after tokyo but i think there'll be a lot of a lot of stake kentucky. Oh for tennis. When i think back <hes> you know to i guess it was. Was it an eighty four that it was a demonstration or exhibition sport in l._a. L. a. and i think steffi graff and stephan edberg won when they were still amateurs. Obviously the pros weren't welcome yet at the olympics and it took a couple of olympics. Thanks for the tennis tournament to be appreciated. I think not only by <hes> by fans but also by the players themselves now. Is it really does. Does it really amount to like a fifth major. I think it does for a lot of people <hes> and for some people like <hes> you know the russians and the chinese for whom you know the olympics are the ultimate <hes>. It means even more <hes>. I have a feeling it's why venus williams is hanging around. She's thirty nine years old jeremy. She hasn't won a major in a long time but she has. I think she's been in four olympic games now. She's won a bunch of medals in singles and and doubles <hes> and olympics me in the world <hes> so she had to qualify her ranking. There are a bunch of americans who are ranked higher than she is right now but the the olympics i i think what turned it honestly is probably the two thousand eight games in beijing and it's a tricky time of the year because it falls in between between wimbledon and the u._s. Open so there are some players who used to think it's not worth it and in barcelona prince for instance it was on clay. The claycourt season was over. The grass courts ended the hardcourt season was starting bike <laughter> <hes> so but now it means the world then for for instance. I imagine how much pressure twenty one year old naomi osaka is gonna feel playing in tokyo next year. She won last year u._s. Open she won this. Here's a straw and she's been slumping ever since and she has made already within a couple of years. Naomi will be the highest paid athlete women athletes in the world she'll surpass arena <hes> and maria sharapova and all the rest so that's a lot for her and she's she's not taking the fame and the expectations easily <hes> she's not wearing it lightly <hes> so for somebody like naomi asaka she we'll be on every billboard every you know. She will be ridiculously thing. That's in japan next some. It's going to be a big deal where speaking with mary carillo the tennis commentator the olympic essayist the journalist reporter for real sports <hes> does so many things so well still still at the top of her game of course at sixty two doing four years ago at this time you know we were talking about rio coming up and zeka and water quality and all those kinds of things. I'm sure jim embel- loved hearing about in the press all the time and everybody else you see and now here. We are a year out from tokyo and everybody's talking about the heat. How are they playing the tennis outdoors. I assume it's is it going to be. Is it going to be as miserable as can possibly be. It'll be rough. It'll be outdoor hardcourt so all that heats gonna reflect into the players faces and i gotta tell tell you jeremy last year's u._s. Open was unbearable. Everybody's so. I don't know how how much time you may have spent there but <hes> especially in the two stadia it was rough. I mean roger federer loss early loss in the fourth round two and also named john millman and he walked off the court into into the referee's office and just stayed there a while he didn't he couldn't he didn't even go straight back to the locker. It was so it was so hot so i mean i i climate change is going to have a lot to do with sports isn't it. I'm on you know. There are especially to me. I mean the the summer sports are rough and i think baseball attendance especially last summer went down because of the heat <hes> there are ski resorts around the world that don't have enough snow no now they're they've got to build you know in indoor climbing things and and ice rinks and stuff indoor ice rinks man this is this is serious. Stuff sounds like a good story for real sports. They have already pitched it. Yeah i mean this is. This is tricky stuff. It really is one thing. I think anybody who's watched you over. The years has come to expect and and unfortunately this isn't always the case when we watch sports commentary commentary is total honesty and a commitment to telling it like it is in the tradition of howard cosell if you will and there are a lot of people who protect relationships above all else and there are a lot of people who are so inside a particular sport that they come to see themselves as defenders vendors of it rather than people who cover it. I think people expect much better from you. How do you how do you manage. Richdad not always not always easily. I've been in just about everybody's doghouse at one time and my my i think it termi is and i can say the same thing about your reporting you you. I wanna be consistent. I i trust somebody that has consistently candid and honest because you know how many how else look it's why i have such great respect for good beat reporters. They've got to live with the baseball team all year or football team or a basketball team and they've got up somehow figure out how to cover it honestly and respectfully and still be able to take swings at things when they go wrong and that's what i've always wanted to do. Frankly your a father was one of my all time heroes <hes> i was lucky enough to know the late great dick schaap and he continues to be one of my one. One of my idols in this business and his son is a lot like so <hes> i'm happy. I'm happy to be able to say that need it. <hes> because there are parts you know tennis is tricky <hes> there there are so many conflicts of interest in the sport and as i said i've been in every major doghouse from andre agassi to serena williams to monica sell to people i genuinely like and respect but if you don't if you don't call it cleanly then what what have you got your reputation is everything and no tennis is it's a long it's a ten and a half months sport from what i do is i'll say something critical like i did <hes> in the wake of the serena osaka u._s. Open final last cheer as the words are leaving my teeth into the ozone. You told what was your truth and how how you felt about that moment. <hes> how did serena williams dominant obviously athlete in her sports last two decades feel about <hes> and you guys have a relationship that goes back a long time a good relationship. What was her reaction to your bluntness. In your candor well first of all i called the match the tennis channel with lindsay lindsay davenport and i. I agreed a up to a point with everything. Serena williams was saying germany. She doesn't need coaching. She doesn't want coach. Even when there's on court coaching allowed in the non major she doesn't take it in serena more than any ever seen can be playing a terrible match and get tight and figure out a way to win. I mean i've seen that from her senior place with really really bad form down to set and a break and olson she quandary plunger way back and that's what i expected in last year's final <hes> and it didn't happen and i was very critical of her coach patrick murata gluten. Basically we started the chaos of that of that final <hes>. I think the chair umpire a terrific guy who's been around for decades named carlos for almost did a very good the job there most people were saying <hes> you know he should have given serena a soft warning when she sort of losing. I disagree with that. Everybody knows the rules. <hes> you give a soft warning in the beginning of a match not towards the end it. You know <hes> so i was. I felt that the chair umpire really really <hes> was overly criticise. He was just doing his job. He's a no nonsense guy. <hes> i think serena kind of pulled from how she race and gender and motherhood and the the the differences between men and women losing their minds during match like she brought it all into one big thing <hes> and i disagree with that i i don't like seeing i don't like seeing like bullies jeremy or make a bullet and i thought she was acting like a bullet and to me bullies have caused every problem in the history of our planet and and i thought that serena was trying to believe the chair and he didn't take and that was a great pity now had serena reacted. I don't know i've never i've seen her sister says and we don't we haven't talked about it but again i i certainly go on record. <hes> every time i open my mouth and and i consider i considered i mean i wouldn't i wouldn't be uncomfortable seeing her one on one <hes> or asking her a question at a press conference effective. She hasn't played that much here <hes> so i honestly haven't seen that much in two thousand nineteen. I thought i thought she was gonna win. Wimbledon this year. I thought she was gonna win wimbledon last year. I thought she was going to beat us soccer atlanta's here's u._s. Open she's lost four times in a row now. <hes> and she's never done that before the most she's ever in finals including last week's when she had to retire canadian opens the most you'd ever lawsuit to finally before that was to in her. Oh <hes> so i'm hoping for the best for i one six arena make more history than she's already made <hes> and there is so much that i respect about her. I like about her <hes> but you just can't act that way and new york has always always been a problem with serena her worst <hes> temper her biggest. You know biggest problems have always happened at the u._s. Open long ago when it was against kim clijsters cloisters and she lost her way and she ended up getting defaulted in the at the end of the mansion samsung does her when she played and lost to her in the u._s. Open final and and this thing last year i mean this i think because it's the last major of the year and syria basically shuts down her season after the open. I'm more often than not. She's trying and make history as she's trying to do. In a couple of weeks i think and the fact that it's new york probably doesn't know and new yorkers who i wanted to see your debt going. She's always had it hortus. I think they hold it all together in new york. I've never seen behaved the way she has in new york at say wimbledon unsettling court. They're speaking with mary carillo mary. You know you know this stuff obviously as well as anyone and <hes> you know. This is what we do. In sports radio we talked about the greatest we could superlatives and and from somewhere in the outside it seemed almost heretical over the last years to suggest serena's not the greatest <hes> women's tennis player of all time is there. Is there any argument about it anymore. Is there competition. Can we still talk about <hes>. <hes> steffi or martino or is the debate of for all purposes all intents and purposes over. I can make that argument. I mean i that martina navratilova but one as much as she did and played singles doubles and mixed doubles as astonishing to me that steffi graf won twenty two majors that is a great number except when you realize that the greatest rival at the time monica sell us out for almost two and a half years when someone stabbed her literally stabbed her <hes> in the name of steffi graf returning to number one martina and chrissie has they make each other cry just about every weekend for more than fifteen years the problem but it's not a problem of course serena is in that conversation and maybe it's a very upset that she has not had a great rivalry three not for a long time we all thought in the early two thousands that she and venus would be playing for majors for major titles forever and after a a couple of years that didn't stop happening except once or twice more at wimbledon <hes> serena's the sharapova serena thing i mean god bless maria sharapova but she hasn't beaten serena since two thousand four so the rivalry there is more for <hes> sponsorship deals and watch deals then tennis matches. <hes> serena headed terrific loopy rivalry with the belgian players just seeing n._f._l. Awhile and then all of a sudden just seeing up in up in and and leaves the sport retires so i you know when you look at the overall scope of serena's career it is luminous. She's magnificent. <hes> i think why there's still a conversation because people like me very well. Remember what it was like watching chris evert martina and how consistently they got into finals you know so how much how much they were playing yeah i mean and more org record is the mortgage twenty. Four majors is the one that serena's going after and people are critical of that same because mortgage started in the amateur days his <hes> and eleven her twenty four majors came at the australian open where quite frankly a lot of the draws they weren't not only were they not full a great players but they weren't even large they were thirty two draws instead of today's twenty eight one hundred twenty eight rounds so i'm of course these are arguments and and you know i'm i'm very happy to belly up to the bar and blow the suds off and have this conversation but the more interesting conversation for me is on the men's side and again until phil roger federer and novak djokovic put down their rackets for good i don't i can't say who the greatest of all time i can't really say that the graze whole time of is roger federer. If you figure that novak much younger than those guys roger just turned thirty eight <hes> nobody's playing unbelievable table tennis and you just want it then that got him to sixteen against raucous eighteen majors and and cetera twenty imagine if federer cetera had won that final and he had two match points jeremy he would have gotten a twenty one majors and djokovic stated fifteen. That is a huge difference. It's insane. When we grew up bird bird you know roy emerson's twelve seemed as if it was going to stand forever and half of those were australian opens of course but but you know then we can talk about labor right eleven and all those years. He didn't get to play because he was a professional and the professionals didn't get to play in the major championships when he won the u._s. u._s. Hoping then got some fourteen majors and so all right. Here's a good way to end. He had to have been thinking well. That's going to last a while. I mean i you know i i genuinely thought god pete sampras is he could be the greatest player of all time now. People don't even have you know in the same in the same conversation as the three were watching now especially because he didn't win the french yeah because he doesn't have the career grand slam will we. It's always fun watching shing mary carillo doing whatever she does at the olympics on tennis on real sports <hes> and i'm not saying that just because you once offered me a job as as one the writers producers at the olympics at twenty five years ago when we were offered jeremy. I might take you up on that anymore. More thank god all the help. I can get that statute but but thank you so much for joining us. It's really been a pleasure and there's nobody better. <hes> were honored to have you here on the sporting life jeremy. Thanks for having the sporting life on e._s._p._n. Radio and the e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. App already on the show in the last few weeks. We've talked a little bit about the raiders and their appearance on hard knocks. This is what is it now these about the twelfth season of hard knocks people are talking about the raiders lot going on there obviously asli second season for jon gruden as the head coach. We've got in tokyo brown on the team now and we're joined by my colleague league <hes> one of the best in the business. She has been doing raiders games for the last five years in the preseason. She's one of the only women to have called n._f._l. National games and it's a pleasure to welcome to the sporting life death moen's beth. Thank you for being with us. Oh my pleasure jeremy. How do you think the raiders are handling all the attention coming their way right now. <hes> you know i think they're doing a pretty good job of it. I i. It's you know the reality of the present day n._f._l. N._f._l. is and with social media being the way it is <hes> i think for this generation of younger guys there are a lot more used used to it. <hes> then you know say back in the day when there weren't television cameras and phones everywhere and and so i think there's an awareness <hes> that you're constantly on <hes>. Is you know one of the threes we like to say in in broadcasting and sportscasting too so <hes> other than the i i think having to get used to the boom nights boom mics and all the camera guys you know hard knocks comes in with a a pretty substantial number of people <hes> i think once you get past that the first couple of days i think they've done a good job of settling in and getting the work and and trying to figure out how all all the new pieces fit. I think that's the big thing with training camp. I think the count is there are five remaining starters from the day they before gruden arrived two years ago <hes> to the point now where you're you're trying to gel seventeen new starters over the course of the last two years ears speaking beth mohan's the e._s._p._n. And c._b._s. broadcasters calling the preseason games for the oakland raiders again this season and hand and beth <hes> we think about the raiders obviously we're thinking about jon gruden and his big personality imposes that personality on the teams that he's coached over the years on the people that he works around. Certainly that was the case at e._s._p._n. Elsewhere as a coach sure how does a young team <hes> respond to the jon gruden of two thousand nine hundred nineteen <hes> you know i think that's the the challenge orange that john <hes> was ready to take on when he returned to the sidelines. <hes> you know i get to work alongside rich gannon who played for john <hes> with the raider the first go round <hes> and he does like to joke. You know how come you don't yell at these guys as the yellow <hes> but i think <hes> you know jeremy. Winning is the great elixir for everything you know i think everybody was frustrated with the record last year and and excited and hopeful that there's there's more pieces in place where you can give these guys tough love <hes> and sprinkle in you know something for for the younger guys <hes> to make them feel appreciated and help them to understand <hes>. You know how much you do care about him. I think even <hes> you know the first iteration of john with the raiders. There's you know rich. Gannon loved playing for the guy even though he was really tough on them for you beth calling preseason obviously there are a lot of guys on these teams teams who aren't going to be there the following week or at the end of the month when they make final cut saw the rosters are so big how how how challenging is it calling preseason football the actual games themselves. I i think <hes> you know you find that they're much more conversational and and <hes> you're doing a lot of you know projecting of hang. Here's what the lineup is probably gonna look like here are the guys that are in a position battle right now. <hes> and then you you wanna give those guys at that. Are you know <hes> guys seventy three ninety. Who are you know fighting for a roster spot or fighting according to get on a practice squad or you know in today's n._f._l. Fighting to impress some other team that if they do get cut maybe i can catch on somewhere or else and <hes> i think you take a lot of pride and you know you find the nugget you find the story of their life. You know that guy in cleveland glenn the other. Day is a great example. She you know there's a there's a guy like that on every team that is defying the odds <hes> to try and chase their dream him and so that's part of what i really enjoy about. It is these are regular. Guy is <hes> trying to defy the odds and and make it in the league and and i think there is some inherent drama in that even in a third or fourth quarter of a preseason game would you when you did the rams raiders preseason game this past week you were working the raiders meaning our colleagues working for the rams on their broadcast color commentary <hes> what was it like having another woman commentator later on an n._f._l. Broadcast of the same game you're calling. You know that was really cool. I i had a chance to <hes> visuals main a pre game and and then <hes> you know stopped opt <hes> into the booth to see how things were going at halftime. I you know i think every time you have people in a position where you can sort of breakdown a stereotype or give somebody opportunity to prove themselves and allow the fans and the listeners to you know sort of make up their own mind about whether or not somebody's good enough have to do the job <hes> and that's really the i think the biggest thing and <hes> i'm really proud jeremy when i see you know somebody get an opportunity you know just in the last couple of years since monday night football and the n._f._l. On c._b._s. there are a lot of young young women now calling play by play in minor league baseball. Which is i think one of the best proving grounds <hes> because you get a lot of reps in a very short period of time and and you've got women now in in <hes> all four the major sports yeah you got kendall coyne scofield doing in the n._h._l. Joining <hes> doris and jessica and the n._b._a. and m._l._b. So it's a it's a great thing to say pretty very cool been speaking with beth mohan's about her career in broadcasting in the state of the raiders before we let you go beth you mentioned rich gannon you're working with. You're also working with matt. Millen were the raiders all time greats has met doing. We've <hes> we've spent some time together since his heart replacement surgery well. I'll tell you the you know other other than and everybody's thrilled to see matt and to be able to talk with matt. <hes> people couldn't say enough about the job that that e._s._p._n. And you guys did with <hes> thank you know the special special piece on him and and what he had to go through and and sort of what i've called <hes> the the christmas eve miracle <hes> he is looking good what he's feeling good you know i think he gets a big boost. <hes> from all the football fans out there that have sent their their well wishes and i think it was <hes> you no the best medicine possible for him to be back around a lot of the you know the old raiders <hes> that were <hes> up in napa training camp and and great for him to be back out there on the field and back in the booth and <hes> you know i i the the people that know matt. I'm you know i'm not spilling the beans here but you she the the <hes> the crusty old soul on the outside and inside. He's a big old teddy bear beth moen's beth. We hope you have a great season. Thank you so much for taking some time for us here on the sporting life. Thank you very much jeremy my pleasure thanks for having joined us. I'm jeremy shop and this has been the sporting life on e._s._p._n. Radio or on every saturday every sunday morning at six eastern time.

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Shipt gig workers boycott new pay algorithm

Marketplace Tech with Molly Wood

07:10 min | 8 months ago

Shipt gig workers boycott new pay algorithm

"The. GIG workers boycotting shopping delivery APP today, because of its new pay algorithm from American public media. This is marketplace tech I'm Jackie Stewart and from Hollywood. If. You're hoping to get shopping delivered via shipped today. You might be out of luck. Shift which is owned by target pays GIG economy workers to deliver goods from brick and mortar stores to consumer's homes around the country. Those workers on staff, so they don't get salary or hourly wage. They're paid by the job. Now shipped is planning to expand its use of an algorithm to determine how much they'll get. It'll take into account. A bunch of factors like how busiest store is and how bad traffic is, but the calculation is paic and workers would like more transparency. They believe they'll end up with less than the commission that they currently get. Meghan mcardle Carino covers workplace culture for us here at marketplace. Generally you know these kinds of gig jobs are piecework. Where workers are paid by the outcome, and not for their time now in quarantine, some of the relationships in that have kind of gotten a little wonky, because say a shopper gets an order, and they spend a bunch of time looking for all the items, and they're all sold out. They wouldn't get compensation for all that extra time, so there are ways in which kind of changing the compensation model for this type of gave work might make sense under the current circumstances and maybe be a bit more fair. But I know you've been reporting this out and talking to a lot of gig workers, and it does seem like in general these algorithms when they're changed and up giving workers less money, not more, or at least that's the perception right? There's definitely that perception I know shipped. Workers have complained that they have piloted the system in some cities, and they say that pay went down by as much as thirty percent in some cases and. And a lot of gig workers for other platforms say that companies just use these algorithms as a way to cut pay without saying that they're actually cutting pay. There's no real way to kind of verify these things pro because they're what's called a black box algorithm. The becomes really difficult to have any predictability around. You know what your wages are going to be for a day or for a week or how much time you should. Count on spending doing the work. With. Hate them so much. Why do the companies say than necessary? There's a kind of complicated market manipulation that these APPs are trying to do. They want to keep. As many workers logged into the APPS as possible so that when you? Order A new. Or you know order INSTA- cart that you have access to as many workers as possible to fill that order as quickly as possible, but also minimize the cost of labor, and so there's this kind of delicate dance that the algorithms perform to try to kind of create market efficiencies and match labor with demand at the minimal cost to generate profits for these APPs. Has Been doing this type of Algorithm ick. Pricing your I guess we know it best to surge pricing for years now so I imagine this is legal. Do workers have any comeback against this? We know it's interesting because it's it's definitely legal for a private company to use these algorithms to to determine pay or to dispatch work whatnot. What actually comes into question, right? Right now is whether that constitutes a change to the classification of gig workers. This has been a big issue in the world of the GIG economy whether gig workers should be classified as independent contractors as a as they currently are, or whether they should be classified as employees as you know. The State of California passed a law that basically sets a criteria that. That would make them employees and one of the criteria that the line California and which many other states are kind of looking to imitate is whether they're able to set their own working conditions, one of which is pay, and so actually uber has changed things up in California just last week for the entire state instituted new policy where drivers can set their own rates. Rates when they log onto the APP kind of an attempt to say hey, they are independent contractors. They're setting their own rates. Whereas when these algorithms kind of determine which jobs they get served, and what the rates are, there is a question as to whether this is correct classification of them as independent contractors, who generally would be able to set their own pay. Megan McCarthy. Carino covers workplace culture for marketplace. Now for some related links, Megan spoke to a rideshare driver in San Diego as part of her reporting Carlos. Ramos, said I, really compare it to like the wizard behind the curtain in wizard of Oz when he was talking about, there was blackbox. To her full reports. California's law AP five which reclassified Igwe, because as employees has already had sweeping impacts across the state, and not everyone's happy. There have been lawsuits social media campaigns and a ballot initiative challenging sponsored by Uber. Lift Post and door, DASH Ab Five means workers get lots of the protections that conventional employment brings things like overtime, minimum wage and workers comp would also mean unemployment insurance, which Gig work has actually get anyway at the moment, because of expanded federal benefits due to the pandemic, but they won't last forever. Of course, all of that is expensive for businesses, and it's not just the big tech platforms that get swept up in a b five, but also things like independent Yoga studios off playhouses for example, the La Times profiled some of them. Other states are already looking to follow California's lead. Yesterday. We heard that Massachusetts is suing left over the status of drivers. That state's Attorney General Says Bay should be employees. And lift avowing to fight it, saying the vast majority of bad drivers actually want the freedom to work independently set their own hours and woke flexibly. The coronavirus pandemic has highlighted just how essential some Gig economy workers are I'm Gig jobs like groceries delivery have been a lifeline for people who've lost other work because of the shutdowns. As a piece in the Harvard Business, review says Gig work is ahead to stay and the model is only going to get more entrenched so now. Really is the time for us to think about how we would like it to work. I'm Jewish and that's marketplace tag. This is a PM.

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Hour 3: Mina Kimes & DVN Jr.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

33:19 min | 1 year ago

Hour 3: Mina Kimes & DVN Jr.

"This is the dan le batard show with two spot cass e._s._p._n. Radio is presented by progressive president sheri- meena kind get join us just a second here on the shell pennzoil performance line download the meantime show featuring lenny with new episodes every wednesday. Here's here's your sportscenter update red sox. Lefty chris sale became the fastest pitcher in major league baseball history to reach two thousand strikeouts. He now has two thousand in seven career. Strikeouts following his twelve th strikeout performance in boston seven six extra innings victory in cleveland also in that game red sox infielder raphael devers became the first player in the modern era to record six hits four doubles tonight and finally in may these supermassive black hole at the core of the milky way became seventy five more times brighter in two hours and no no one knows what all right very good mysteries out there dan thank you. You should get a grasp on some of this stuff. I mean listen. There's a meteoric coming to the earth. That is the size of a football field and it's expected to get here in the fall. Knock on wood of you. Agree how i'm meteoric. The size of a football field is headed towards earth and if it hits if i don't want to alarm people title but if it hits and there's a chance it's coming this fall football field okay meteoric. You don't wanna learn people with that. I'm just i want. I want want people to prepare. How do you prepare for that. I don't know he doesn't care if you prepare dad's right. We get the hell you do. I have preparations though i did. I built a safer. You guys are welcome to come over if you got the n._f._l. One believes thank god the witching hour burglar's no or out of the house at summer but with those new blake x._t. To cavs you've always got is at your home. Pets deliveries blink x._t. Two cameras just start at just under two hundred dollars visit blinkprotect dot com slash dad. That's blinkprotect dot com slash dan for all the latest headlines and information tune the sports that are on e._s._p._n. Radio all throughout the day download. The meantime lina kind show featuring lenny dog with new episodes every wednesday. What did i hear from you chris. What were you saying e._s._p._n. Is doing sort of dog day. Is this the do is this the doings doings of meena and katie what is dog day as penn's doing. I don't know any details about e._s._p._n. Sent out a thing on twitter e._s._p._n. P._r. teasing it saying that on august twenty twenty four dogs are gonna be taking over e._s._p._n. They're calling it dodge twenty four. I love now. What i'm envisioning is kevin gandhi hosting sportscenter with a coudl okay. Have you heard anything about this as you probably have the most famous dog at the network i do. I haven't heard well. I've heard about it. I've gotten involved all that kind of feel like if kevin does that it would be infringing upon lybrand. I mean he can do it. If you watch kind of my thing while you're really coming after the straw man i it's just built in his mind. They get out of this. He didn't mean to be we. Don't know the gone these doing if we don't even know if we have the thing really. I don't know why he would attack the gandhi hyundai my territory. That's all how did your first <hes> broadcast go for. Those of you do not know meantime has climbed up into the broadcast has booth where she's doing preseason games. She's going to hawaii this week to do a pre season game and i know elaborate scam unbelievable so proud of harm eddyville man hawaii kidding me. I'm going there tomorrow. I in that game by the way guys is on n._f._l. Network so it's a a lot easier to watch because my first game with the rams home broadcast away games. It wasn't on game pass. It wasn't an n._f._l. Network my parents had to go like do a deep deep dive into read it. I think their computer is infected now. Without now it was a lot easier to watch any nieces. How was it though were you nervous as you were scared. Certainly you are overprepared. Yes <hes> all of the above <hes> i did have my true north the whole time was i wanted to get in shut up to the guts subliminal show and i did and i'm trying to do one every game. Which is my way of enticing people to watch or lebatardshow fans. I will get another she. You got the reference <hes> in the next game. What was the last one they've been. Peterman melted my hard on a fifty. One yard screwed all right <hes> mikan senior writer e._s._p._n. The magazine again you should check out our podcast. It's fun and it's informative. Normative features lending her dog new episodes every wednesday so we've got a handful of questions four-year dak prescott what is he and what's his value well. I think he's a human quarterback to answer your first question <hes> y- you this is the kind of analysis that you can search the internet that foreign get your computer infected by. He's a human quarter asking basic questions <hes> he's average right physically nuclear by any measure. He's an average quarterback in because of the nature of the quarterback market an average quarterback gets paid like a top of the market quarterback. I think he has shown joan that with the right context he can play at a top ten levels which should be enough for the cowboys and i think you can't underestimate how bad that offensive scheme has been the the last couple of years which makes it hard to evaluate him <hes> but you know his decision making is and sometimes his accuracy has not been <hes> excellent excellent so far but he has the tools to play at a high level. Dow's is gonna pay him. We're having we've been talking about this on the show for days and days and it's just hilarious because they're going to pay him. I mean do you believe a damn was saying last segment that if you put back behind the eagles offensive line which is great by the way that he becomes carson wentz carson wentz over his last has twenty four games has fifty four touchdowns and fourteen interceptions. Do you agree with that. No i <hes> carson wentz is much better than decorah scott or he's been much better than dak prescott who also by the way has all the last year they were injured a little bit at times and he suffered for it has also played with a very good offensive line <hes> when she has just shown you know much. I think he's more accurate <hes> he's made more big time throws than dot chris scott. He's played at a higher level but he of course coming off that injury didn't get that mega-contract because he wanted to take a slightly safer extension credit for the eagles <hes> so ducks going to get paid more than him is is located at detail about dogs twenty four th when dogs are taking over e._s._p._n. Saying it's going to be a real party. They're going to raise the wolf. A party and we were talking earlier in the show. Thank you for all the research. You did there to come up with that. After several the minutes of planning time we were we were talking about kitchens and this idea of making your team tougher and hard knocks and gruden. Do you believe in the idea that these very tough men can be made tougher tougher enough to win a super bowl because they're tougher than the other guys it's not. I think it's a lot of posturing. I think it's just <hes> you know it's a lot of meat per well kitchen. Some of it is new stuff new coach stuff right but some of it is just messaging aging wanting to send the sort of message out to the world. Hey this is not hugh jackson anymore. We run tough practices pretty kitchens guys in that same breasts that he's been saying order different. Breath can't say the same thing in one breath. He's been saying oh we're talking. We practice hard. He's also said hey. I'm gonna let baker mayfield odell beckham junior even sells and player personality and that's really progressive so i kind of think it's a bit of a front if i'm being honest. It's not really how he's take me. I was watching the hard knocks last night and when shaw mcveigh appeared on my television screen my wife who never asked me anything about sports <hes> she turned to me and she said who is that. What does that mean we know. How should i read. It means the same thing it always when your wife or your partner it does that it always the same thing. I don't know why you would ask meena. That meaning knows abby very well and i'm just wondering what do you think that means you know she's he's probably like a hardcore football fan and has been hearing a lot about mcvay sophisticated office team and just wanted to get like a discussion with you about it. That's what i was thinking. Andrew drew lock answer lock's injury status. It feels a little bit like those. Doctors have really messed up that body. All those things are connected. What do you make of the idea that he's not playing in any preseason games. You are you telling me. You don't think it's a good thing that the location of his injury has changed everyday and that it's apparently the greatest medical mystery of twenty nineteen <hes>. I'd be freaking out if i was a colts fan i what scares me dan. It's not just the medical mystery but chris ballard alor came out and he said well. This is twenty seventeen. We're not just built around one guy anymore. That's not good to hear because that makes it sound like they're. We are planning on a actually playing regular season games without him. Which is a terrifying prospect. A bone issue is what jim irsay is saying. I think he was trying to put out. The a fire bette made it worse. What does that mean. A boat issue was the achilles and then it was the bone issue and then now by the way bonus she would be a hot topic for just putting out some content ideas and <hes> now they're saying it's like high ankle so i don't know it's really weird. Did you see the way aaron. Rodgers responded to a question about his relationship with the flu where he where he just basically says do not come around asking me for daily updates about my relationship with the boss i sorry how did you pronounce the name of the packers. We all do in fact in your analysis right. Now we demand that you do it that way as well <hes> he wouldn't be. The funny thing guys is like a rogers goes out and he ignores all the play calls and audibles his way through drives but they win. Nobody's talk about his relationship with liver. Oh it's only a subject of concern is if the team struggles and then suddenly everyone wants to diagnose right start again you. You didn't say the funny thing is if aaron rodgers goes out and audibles way to drive it can lead us the same stuff doing. Nobody's gonna talk about his relationship with is that how much how much more fun was that it felt oh. It's all right. What are you you learning about the rams. I'm still puzzled me now. I'm still puzzled that they were able to be that kind of slowed in the super bowl still puzzled by the the patriots and okay defense summoning their best defensive performance. What have you learned about the rams being around them more than you're around other teams well. I think that they are very secretive right so it's the pre season so that adjustments that i personally believe they'll have to make sort of in response response to that game and what happened and by the way this notion that other teams in the n._f._l. Can do what the patriots did is ridiculous. <hes> that was the product of like bill belichick being and insane defensive genius in fairly a very very sophisticated defense was able to make adjustments that they had done the entire season. I don't think it's going to be easy for other teams and i don't think the rams are gonna have to rip like i guess revolutionized their offense or change everything but there will be some slight changes. They however plays the extremely extremely really close to the vest so it's a super vanilla <hes> offense and the president he's not doing any of the stuff he's gonna do in the regular season m. i. Enticing you to watch the game not really give us the best thirty seconds. You've got on antonio brown the most the most interesting stuff that you've seen looking in there i mean i think that none of this is particularly surprising decries ing <hes> because he's antonio brownies one of the most talented wide receiver the football and that was actually it was interesting to me because i was at raider. I was at the camp in napa. The raiders we're we're talking with the rams and he had been there since o._t._a.'s but everybody was still talking about how awesome he was o._t._a.'s and that's why he's able to do all of this because because he's still the best football player on every field he walks on download the meantime show featuring lending with new episodes every wednesday and you want to tell the people again where they can catch your rams this coverage this weekend how easy it is to find you this weekend as opposed to the computer infecting that your parents found on read it. It's on at ten pm eastern in time on n._f._l. 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The geico insurance agency could help protect the overly minimalist analyst broom closet you call home call gyco and see how easy it is to switch and save on condo insurance donlevatar and finally the carolina panthers have a sommelier on staff wine expert small e._a. Try i want more time no stugatz which is again a little. Can i hear again somalia the silent it's french. It's french and finally finally the carolina. Panthers have a somali on staff. Not a small out of that is the army's island is molly is not as molly mike lerida radio small e._a. Finally the carolina panthers have a small lay on staff perfect. D._c.'s live at our show with the stugotz on e._s._p._n. Radio don van not other pulitzer prize winning journalists going to join us here in ten minutes. He's got a new show coming out. I'm sure it will be excellent. We're going to talk to him about that. In a second i also wanna talk about this new position that the n._f._l. Created <hes> which is <music> a fixer of societal ills and also co producer of the halftime show of the super bowl. It's a totally new job and the only one qualified for jay z and it's a smart move by jay z to do it as a business man and it's a smart move by the n._f._l. To do it. I don't know if it will actually help with the social causes. I guess yes we can wait and see. We don't have to immediately assume cynicism we can. We can think that it's a a positive effort being made by people to bridge this gap that has it's been a plague for the league for a couple of years now but it should help the halftime show absolutely which we all agree is the most important thing think for the n._f._l. Maroon five what's going to happen there with the co production of the halftime show because big boy. I got got like four minutes in a for with a car and then was swept away. What's going to happen is jay. Z. can actually talk three thousand into joining big boy. This is where you leverage is a relationship that will that right. There will help cure some societal ills if you could just bring outcasts back together right and avoid more maroon five. There's so much pressure on this year's halftime show in my opinion. They have to get local miami people to do it right like rick. Ross has to be an and we cannot settle for d._j. Jake allen okay n._f._l. Because i feel like you're going to go d._j. Calendar glorious stuff on and i do not no offense to the godmother of miami. I do not want to see glorious stuff on on the stage age for this next super bowl none of that please well what about pit bull like pebble has to be there. Obviously we're not even gonna start there. I feel like we're not going to get it not what america erica once we're not gonna get it even though that's really what everybody wants his people on the stage. It's what i want but i'm projecting that on everyone else. I don't think we're going to get it but we need to have uncle luke right. Do we have to have uncle. There's no way we need you. Out of. Your mind. Uncle updates to be there. There's no chance of that. I don't want it to be an english. O j galvin bad bunny rosalie jam all this <hes> latin urban music has really become like hot and it's played on english language radio stations all the time. You want to grow the game you wanna reach out to minorities. How about you had bad bunny jay valve. I know we're getting extravaganza. I know who are getting. We're going to have have to settle for like a mix and we're gonna jaylo. It's going to be jailed during the halftime show. I'm revealing it right now. This year's halftime show jello in iran talk about what is going to do. What can't he do dan. That's all we need them to do. I love the idea of a rod just in a suit wandering around the stage doing nothing other than collecting money from every known media outlet in the world show so many money. They're gonna let luc on the state now. Do i hope no. If i was in charge i wouldn't but i think it'd be great if they did. Dan is going to join us here and we really have to get to all two hundred forty things on magic johnson's top sixty less. We'll see if we have time time for that before the end of the show. It's a good question. It's the gods. I don't know how we're going to do that. All the two hundred forty things alphabetically the lists are all alphabetical except movies top sixty movies which is godfather and then everything else alphabetic. There goes the big guys. This is why he the wind is gonna get you got to it or good donlevatar d- i know what you like and i give it to to you to make you a junkie so that you're listening and you can't help yourself on the stuff that i got a force feed you but i know what you like and i'll give it sparingly just just to get you addicted still god's you'll stay right there addicted and every once in a while. I'll give you smack that. You don't like but that you need. It's medicine you need. It's the whole formula we know what you like. It's why you're addicted even though you hate that part of the show these live with our show with the stugatz on e._s._p._n. Radio so one o'clock on sunday this sunday one o'clock eastern on a._b._c. <hes> what you're going to get is a new show backstories. What is called don. Van natta is that the head of it is a journalistic enterprise and then it'll be on a bunch of <unk> other e._s._p._n. Platforms after it appears <hes> on sunday but dan not a joins us now. Thank you for being on with does don. Can you please tell us. I'm sorry you know what i got the day wrong. It's saturday. It's not sunday. It should be large sunday down. It is sunday the good times when we went on here. Is it saturday or sunday. Let's get that established sunday. One pm eastern eastern on a._b._c. one hundred dollars and can you tell us. Why did you choose what you chose. And what is it that you're trying to do with the show well. I'll answer your your second question first and thanks for having me on appreciate it back. Story is an attempt to go back at a great pass sports scandal sports controversy delve into the backstory and tell people something they don't know about it. It's a very ambitious goal. We set ourselves. We have five episodes in the first season but but it's sort of a combination of thirty thirty storytelling with a sort of cold case where i go on a journalism journey and tried to tell you something that you didn't didn't know or at least bring fresh perspective fresh insight to scandal that you think you already know everything about and the first episode sunday is <hes> serena versus the umpire. We're going back to last year u._s. Open women's final when serena was going to tie the all time record for singles wins <hes> by margaret court of twenty four it was supposed to be a coronation for serena as we all remember <hes>. It turned out to be <music>. <hes> these multiple clashes with the chair umpire by serena charon named carlos ramos what happened on the court overshadowed nio miyasaka <hes> the twenty year old <hes> woman from japan who won her first grand slam and you literally had a champion crying at the trophy ceremony ramani and how that happened it really was the ugliest finish in grand slam history and why that happened and what led up to it what was going on on the court and then the aftermath is what we delve elven to during the hour that people will i see on sunday afternoon. How did it happen well. There was a lot of reasons for its do. You're going to have to tune in. I wanna give to when he's spoilers away but you know the question is who is most at fault for what happened and that's and that question divided friends at divided families. <hes> what we discovered serena williams <hes> obviously played a huge role in that and refusing to admit there was a clear coaching violation that first code coaching violation when serena under repeatedly said i don't cheat <hes> and we we actually slow that down almost so pruder film like and show you exactly what happened with a split screen and when the coaching signal was given by her coach patrick neurotic lou who we interview on camera i went to wimbledon to interview them and where serena's looking and then actually what carlos romo's the chair umpire believe he saw as well we reveal that <hes> for the first time which i think played a huge role in what happened but there was a lot of blame go around blame for serena blamed for carlos ramos the chair umpire when when share on pires do their jobs well. They're invisible <hes> he was certainly not invisible that a day and he let the code he left the match. Get out of hand and then and then the rules of tennis we also look at very carefully to because the rules of tennis arcane or confusing and so we go into <hes> a lot of detail about the rules of tennis as well. There's a lot of blame to go around for what happens sunday a._b._c. one p._m. Eastern does pulitzer prize winning journalist don van and not a reveal sunday. One pm serena williams big peter in other address. I mean is that what we review is that you just said. We did sa- bruder film. I mean why do the super villain unless you're gonna prove jeeter we don't we don't call her a big cheater in the film down what show though remember serena had as insisted repeatedly that there was no coaching code violation that she never received coaching and patrick murata naghlu her coach told me at wimbledon the first time he ever sent a signal in the seven years that he's coached serena williams was during that match but we slow it down and you see serena you know looking over at patrick glue as he gives these hand signals to move up off the baseline in the early part of the second set is she's as serena's losing using she lost the first set six two sokha and and was not doing well in the in the second set and we show she looks over and then there's a very interesting getting little nod harada cheater and so and so i asked mirada glue on camera and the episode of very simple question. Why do you not why did you not serena after she looked at you and gave the signal and people will have to tune in at one o'clock on sunday to hear his answer but this changes every meter and liar cheater an liar one p._m. A._b._c. on sunday what are some other backstories can you tell us. It's it's a new show. Its debut on sunday. What are some other back stories and <hes> specifically. Can you do one on that. Homerun that bounced off jose can say goes ahead please. I if we get a second season dan we absolutely do that because we have got to find out the back story of that the second episode it's coming out in either october early. November is the banning of shoeless joe so we've got our first one. <hes> something that happened a year ago now we're going to go one hundred years back industry three and and looking at the black sox scandal but we're going to look at the through line from the black socks and the banning of shoeless joe to the banning of pete rose thirty years ago for betting on baseball and then fast forward to right now and major league baseball embrace of legalized gambling and connect the dots between those three things i interviewed pete rose earlier or the summer in las vegas at mandalay bay. It was a fascinating hour and a half interview. I can't wait for folks to see an excerpt that and then the third episode is the cats fishing of mant te'o that'll be out early next year. There's a lot of great bacteria. Go one year back. One hundred years back goes on. Thank you for being on with us dollar. Suggest you for the pete rose episode. I am telling you get an interview with billy ray cyrus the way you do it because he's made it as 'cause right this is this is now sessions to get pete rose in the hall of fame right a bit more diluted <hes> than obsession couple of interviews. Docu series is called back story premiers sunday. One pm eastern on a._b._c.'s serena versus the empire don. Thank you for being on with us. Thank you guys really appreciate it. Thank you vol's are june used donlevatar good work today. Those are fun show stugatz. It was also inter galactically stupid. V._c.'s donlevatar about the show with these two guys on e._s._p._n. Radio update the polls here in a second at lebatardshow <hes> the spurs medical article staff took a bit of a hit with all the things that happened over the last couple of years with kawhi leonard yep that colts medical staff man who it's the one you can't miss up they messed up his shoulder already and now they can't even figure out three more is and they can't figure out what the hell is happening with andrew luck and i know that you guys look at me and say what does he know about physical fitness but i do know people who are experts in this area and they will tell you that the body is all connected from the foot to the top of the head and once stuff starts breaking down in the connection ladder you get what you're seeing with andrew luck which no one can figure out what's causing what and how much of it is even medically complete diagnosed because you have the owner calling it a bone issue. They've told you it's an achilles. <hes> frank reich has said that it's the worried about the kevin in durant thing happening and now it's something else it is so strange to have that franchise quarterback pay him that much money one hundred million dollars and not know what's wrong with him. Physically it is insane. I would guess playing a doctor on the radio because i don't have any expertise here that you can't don't have the mystery surrounding what happened with his shoulder which was super unusual in the modern age with a famous valuable quarterback where it seems like a surgery was botched reached where it feels like something didn't go right and then from that you're gonna have all sorts of physical problems physical problems that are not diagnosis notable. I mean it is a brutal look for the people who care for human bodies and the colts because it's the one guy it can happen to you like literally the one guy you can't have those sort of things being questioned on because he carries your entire franchise to sri quarterbacks where where we've been wondering for months at a time. What's the sadness of this quarterback. What exactly is going on what they're missing the entire season. How preseason well no. I'm saying i'm calling going back to peyton because mark sorta surrounded peyton manning which is no he'll probably be ready for the season and then next thing you know he's out for the entire year. I wonder if that factored into josh mcdaniels daniel's decision. He took that job and said he didn't want the job and i just wonder if he knew just how questionable andrew luck was going to be. How can anyone know nobody knew what any of that was to god's. Nobody nobody knew that injury is not unlike is not like anything we've seen before where a quarterback goes in for shoulder surgery and then is delayed by six months beyond his timetable. We're just maybe had some sort of inkling or idea that this guy was going to be fragile moving forward and i want to be the head coach there but i can read on the ballot check lines. He played a complete season last year and he almost almost all is matched his career numbers. I get a really good year last year. I understand that but i wonder if josh thought to himself for year. He'll be good but long term. I have no idea of this is is gonna be healthy. I'm going to be there for five years. Six years hopefully and i have no idea of andrew. Luck is going to be my quarterback for all five or six. Meanwhile the quarterback i have in new england will live forever exactly. I never have an injury and if he does they'll change the rule so he doesn't have any more. I know who i can count on being there for the next decade and it's tom brady at lebatardshow on twitter. Witter is where you go. I'm not positive that you've got the timeline right on mcdaniel and <hes> and luck like how fragile the condition was because his injury and he was healthy headed into last season. I understand that but mcdaniels took the job then didn't want the job they gave it to frank reich and i'm just wondering if maybe he's at a locks could be good this year but i have questions about whether he's going to be healthy long-term and i'm planning coaching there for a long time. Naturally can have those questions coming off a season season which andrew luck didn't play at lebatardshow on twitter. What do we have to got the twitter. Poll is brought to you by dollar. Shave club dollarshaveclub delivers the product you used a look feel and smell your best right to your door plus with their handsome discount. The more you buy the more you save dollarshaveclub dot com slash dan for a special offer. I'm going to go back to yesterday's as polls. We do not update. Those does era take the airport rental car. Shuttle seventy five percent of the audience said no. Are you always afraid when you drive over the rental car. Spikes ninety percent of the audience said yes is a rod one of the world's greatest magicians seventy eighty four percent of the audience said yes do you microwave fish at ten thirty in the morning did that no i did not no. I did not ninety. Two percent of the audience said no. You've claimed you did it out. Drew minutes later to find out who did it was can you can't even keep trying to find out it wasn't me you made up for no reason agenda panic room thirty minutes ago. There's there's a meteoroid day. Governor gets the size of a football field that might hit earth but i got the sunday ticket in there now. Give you great the what is the best thing about data lobski. Your choices were hair. Smoldering lagoon is football knowledge edge running out of the end zone sixty five percent of the audience at running out of the end zone. Anyone else confused. Dan loss getting calls from n._f._l. Teams and not colin cabernet abernathy. Yes does safety dance. Hold up fifty. Six percent of the audience said yes lazier songwriters aerosmith their cats. This is a big one. Dan eighty percent of the audience that casts curl up here big never mind. We'll see we'll update. The polls a little more on tuesday newsday. I need to get to right now the two hundred and forty things on magic johnson's for top sixty birthday. We'll do that right now.

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Full Episode: Friday, August 23, 2019

Perspective

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Full Episode: Friday, August 23, 2019

"Is there something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals better help online counseling. Is there for you. Connect with your professional counselor. Slur in private online environment scheduled secure video or phone sessions plus chat and text with your therapist listeners. Get ten percent off your first month by going to better her help. Dot com slash perspective from a._b._c. news. This is perspective closer. Look at the week's top stories and the stories. You may have missed. I i'm cheri preston coming up president trump questioning the loyalty of jewish-american if they cast a vote for democrats. I think any jewish push people that vote for a democrat. I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great this loyal and n._y._p._d. Officer fire five five years after the chokehold death of eric garner. I've been a cop a long time. If i was still a cop i probably be mad at me. I would not looking out for us but i am. A young man takes his grandmother across the u._s. To visit the country's most cherished lands we walked across the landscape and up a sand dune and been she got down on the ground and i said what are you doing. She said i wanna i wanna roll down. It looks fun all ahead on perspective president trump zigzag for much of the week on major issues seeming to reverse course on gun background checks and dan tax cuts while also canceling upcoming visit with denmark's president after the country said greenland is not for sale. The president also continued his attack on democrats in and congresswoman repeated questioning the loyalty of the jewish community. If they choose to vote for the democrats i think any jewish people that vote for a democrat pratt <hes> i think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty amid questions about the state of the economy ahead of the twenty twenty election shen down another week in washington. Here's a._b._c. news white house correspondent karen travers. We had talk of <hes> you know background checks than no payroll tax than yeah no <hes> it was a lot of flipping on a lot of stuff. This week from the white house wasn't it it was i mean i think it was just mixed. Messages on a whole host of very critical critical policy issues and where we land at the end of the week is that the economy is still the big topic here for the president is still the thing that he is tweeting the most about out and that his aides feel that they have to address because there have been a lot of big red flags about a potential downturn in the economy <hes> the looming recession that ah communist and analysts are warning about and it was not imminent jared's next year or the year after that but it's enough to create some anxiety right now and the president has decided on a campaign of we will p._r. Spin this. We will talk about how great the economy is now an ins not wrong but he's also not acknowledging that there could be some dark clouds coming on the horizon and it's a you know a gamble but they're looking at this from the political standpoint the president's heading into the election season the economy is the one bright spot for him in public polling and any dings on that right now <hes> could jeopardize his reelection chances economic adviser larry cudlow said just on thursday day that if there was going to be a tax cut probably come during the campaign unusual for it to be that quite that <hes> you know we know they have their eye on the political calendar wonderbra for them to say and here is the date that we have circled and this is when we will do an economic stimulus in order to help the economy would also help people that we would like to vote for us. It's pretty striking breaking to see them be so candid. I think what was also interesting from kudlow is that you know. He says they're they're looking at what they're calling. Tax cuts two point. Oh tax cuts for for the middle class. He says for small businesses for blue collar workers <hes> but they're also trying to straddle a very tricky line here by saying that we don't need to do this right now. We can wait until next year. We don't need a short term. Stimulus plan for the economy because the economy is so strong but if we were to consider something here's what we would do so they're trying to say. We're thinking about things for the potential downturn that we don't think is happening but in case it does don't worry we got you covered. When it comes comes to the background checks for guns i mean the president was super seemed like he was very supportive of it. Increasing background checks then you know he. He talked to wayne lapierre's of the of of the n._r._a. And and that change that's surprise anybody that that was going to change before before you know after parkland the florida high school shooting the president came out and i said we were going to do something you know background checks there was going to be really tough action and new gun legislation and within about a week and a half he backtracked from that and it was very clearly tied led to conversations he had on the phone and dinner he had at the white house with leadership from the n._r._a. So when he came out very quickly after the ohio and texas shootings there was was a skepticism about this but it was okay. This is what he's saying publicly but sure enough within about two weeks president now is saying that there are already ready background checks on the books and and maybe look at reinforcing them but that we don't need to have new gun legislation but even by the end of this week sherry the white house officials were still saying that all all of this is just talk at this point because congress isn't here when they get back in session in september then things might begin in earnest but that's the big question then is is there any political will on on capitol hill for this lawmakers aides that we have talked to say there could be but really the kickstart that any legislation would need is explicit support fort from the president final question looking ahead to the next democratic debate looking at democrats kenya name <hes> two or three of them that may be on the president's mind right now certainly joe biden. He's the person that the president talks about the most yet at the same time. The president will say he'd love to see him as his rival because he feels that he would be the best person for him to take on. I think sherry it's easier for the president right now to speak the same language of joe biden similar generation and i think they that he feels like he can go after him in a way that he's more comfortable comfortable with some of the other candidates trip him up a little bit more but certainly based on tweets and <hes> reaction to questions joe biden. It's on the president's mind okay karen in travers as always. You're very knowledgeable. Thanks for your insight from the white house appreciate it bakes five years after eric garner's final words. I can't breathe ignited a nationwide protest. The new york city police officer directly blamed for his chokehold death has been fired n._y._p._d. Commissioner james o'neill announced officer daniel pantaleo handle eos termination earlier this week calling it an extremely difficult decision a._b._c. News senior investigative reporter aaron katersky recounts the firing and how unfolded with our brad milkey on a._b._c.'s daily podcast start here erin. Why did this take five years to the side. There were so many different investigative steps that had to be taken before the n._y._p._d. Could initiate its own discipline. I the staten island district attorney declined to bring criminal charges against officer pantaleo then the feds took a look and for a number of years the department was asked to hold off on on any discipline or even on getting in the way of maybe federal federal investigators in this went back and forth and there was a real reluctance on the part of the justice department to bring federal civil rights charges under both administrations but it was finally left of the attorney general william bar to say no that was just last month. He has not been brought to justice that police officers should be off the street and right after that the mayor the city of new york bill de blasio said well now new york can enact considered justice. You know why because for the first time we are not waiting on the federal justice department may ask my decision in a disciplinary case of police officer daniel pantaleo and so the disciplinary process at the n._y._p._d. Policy let's see finally ended not long ago with departmental judge finding daniel pantaleo reckless in using a chokehold against garner during the arrest. I won out although not with intent. I examined the totality of the circumstances and relied on the facts i stand before you today confident that i have reached the correct concision nonetheless recommending fired and that's the action that the police commissioner affirmed on monday but wait pantaleo police reps have said again and again this was not even an illegal choke hold the administrative court said he was untruthful during the investigation was that in there is worse than the actual to- cold not really it was is permissible initially because as you describe bread pantaleo and garner are wrestling at one point pantaleo is slammed against shopkeepers supers- wall he refused to cooperate with the arrest and to comply with lawful orders the video also makes clear it offers pantaleo original efforts to take mr garner into custody for appropriate and that end as he tries to maintain his balance and control over eric garner. He puts him in a chokehold but what happened. Next is the matter. How do we must address. The patrol. Officers guide says once you're on the ground that kind of potentially lethal force has to end and for those few seconds officer pantaleo maintained a grip on eric garner's soot didn't kill him directly but it contributed to an asthma attack at the medical examiner's office said did and a gnat is where the departmental judge and the police commissioner found officer pantaleo to be reckless. I've been a cop a long time and if i was still a cop probably be mad at me. I would not looking out for us. Plan wanna talk about the commissioner for a second because because he said again and again in this press conference he is a former beat cop he rose through these ranks and i almost got confused listening to him 'cause does he think pantaleo should still it'll be a cop or not. I mean he's really sympathetic to him. He said police officers make split-second decisions. All the time and some of those decisions are life and death and pendolino is union is calling for a vote of no confidence now in commissioner o.'neil. There's a saying within the police department. That's been bantered around for some time. That said the job is dead. In reality to job has been dying and today the job is dead. However have you came up to here decision. You finally made a decision. That should have been made five years ago. Though eric garner's family thanked the commissioner for doing what they called the right thing instead they keep pushing for a federal law to ban police officers across the country from using a chokehold. I lost my son. You cannot be place stab. You can get another job. Maybe at burger king okay so it's really interesting timing because on the same day california's governor signed this new law that basically early makes it illegal for a police officer to use deadly force unless it's objectively reasonable like you have no other options your taser deescalation tactics are all played out so on one side you got black lives matter saying we need to reevaluate how much authority give cops on the street to begin with and then the police benevolent association and new yorker saying saying this guy should not have even been fired. Let alone prosecuted aaron katersky. Thanks a lot thank you brad coming up fires in the amazon on and the anniversary of protecting america's cherished lands on perspective after this these days news news comes out of washington so fast. It can be hard to keep up. I just don't think this is going to play out the way everybody thinks. It's gonna play out. We're getting a giancarl prediction special music for this. I'm a._b._c. news. Political rhetoric kline join me along with a._b._c.'s chief white house correspondent jonathan karl every week as we break down the facts and turn to washington insiders with questions on the powerhouse politics podcasts or you're talk to me. I'm looking forward to listen for free on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app. Welcome back to perspective. I'm i'm cheri. Preston smoke loomed over the city of sao paulo brazil this week more than a thousand miles away from the amazon rainforest but that's where the smoke originated as the brazilian amazon is experiencing a record amount of fires this year. The number of fires in the amazon rainforest has almost doubled since last year according to the non-governmental environmental your mental organization greenpeace a._b._c. news foreign correspondent. James longman has been reporting on the story. I got a chance to talk to about it earlier this week my hearing these numbers right seventy wendy four thousand fires this year and almost ten thousand just since last week in the amazon rainforest yeah. That's absolutely right. I mean there are fis every year at this time armavir but this is you know we have never seen anything quite like this. These guys are often started off and by farmers who have to clear tracts of land to to <hes> to rear cattle but nothing of this scale and the the images from space or something you know looking down on south america you could z. wisps of white clouds that not that smoke. It's traveling. It's trouble over seventeen hundred miles right the way over to sao paulo where that that city on monday was basically it was a blackout people were driving home from work and in the middle of the day and you can see images the basically the city just looks like it's night all the <hes> headlamps or on driving home so i think this really has up the interest in just what is going on in the amazon so you mentioned that <hes> l. many times the fires were started by farmers who are clearing the land for cattle. Is that where how most of these started is it. The the warm temperatures is it on purpose is it because there's been less attention paid by the brazilian government to what's been going on in the rainforest recently. I think probably all of the above. I mean we should say that. There are other fires going on in other parts of of south america for example bolivia just over the border. Two thousand square miles of forest is currently on fire and it isn't <hes> you know the these things happen every a year because like you said it is summertime there is drought. We call it a rainforest but actually parts of the forest can suffer with drought but yes. It's a it's. It's something that pharma's do all all over the world. There are controlled fires in order to be able to rear cattle. We have an insatiable hunger for meat products dairy products <hes> all over the world and so there is a big big need for it but yes there has been a lot of criticism on for the government and particularly for jampal scenario. The newly elected president gnat <hes> who has basically makes no bones about it. He's pro development and not particularly keen on conservation and yeah one of the things he did recently was blame ngos. They said it was a retaliation that these fires have been set for retaliation because they hadn't funded the rainforest. I mean is that just bluff. I mean come on. I mean yeah that's bluff. I think we can in probably safety say look. Let's put it like this. He hasn't provided any evidence evidence for that and he said it's just a feeling that he had but his people who support him. We'll say it's because he's cut funding for ngos and so they've got this kind of <hes>. I suppose they won't be able to gain more kind of <hes> notoriety and there were people to know they exist. They want more money like that but i think it's it's quite clear that ngos who care about the environment and have been looking after the amazon for decades probably wouldn't be setting light to it <hes> he has come into. He's clashed with them a number of times and in fact <hes> just last month he fired the head of brazil space agency after they had a disagreement about the numbers over deforestation it was highlighted by the space agency because obviously that the people who taking photographs from the sky of the amazon rainforest deforestation shen had had gotten out of control and bolsonaro said well. That's it you're out of here. <hes> so you know. This isn't the first time that he's had this issue. It's just coming to raise arts engine now. Because of the scale of this fire james tell us a little bit about the importance of amazon rainforest its size and just really what it means for the entire the entire world well. It's about half the size of the united states and it has about three million different varieties of plant and animal life but a million people live their indigenous <hes> indigenous people which have been increasingly threatened in recent years they call call it home and it's vital because a vast amount of carbon in its trees sucks in carbon dioxide the vast amount of a tree sorry they suck in carbon in the atmosphere which we need to slow down the global warming to slow down the rise in global temperatures so this is an extraordinarily important part of the world. It's responsible for producing something like twenty percents of the oxygen that we all breathe and it's extraordinary that over the last fifty or so years shocking twenty percent of it has already been cut away and every minute of every day something like a soccer pitch pitch and a half is cut down and so what scientists say is there is a tipping point that you could reach the rainforest where if too much of these the two many of these trees cut down the rainforest cannot sustain itself and then they will be a deputation effect whereby it won't be able to nourish its own soil. Oh because it's a very particular type of saw that you need in a rainforest and that and much larger parts of the rainforest could just die out without anyone cutting these trees down so it is a pretty severe situation now exactly according to one conservationist is quoted as saying every time you look at a satellite image of the forest you see another little piece missing in those little pieces <music> all add up to be a very big chunk of something. That's crucial to the globe the amazon rainforest james longman. Thank you so much for bringing the story to us. Thank you noticed this sunday sunday. The u._s. is celebrating. Its protected lands august twenty fifth marks. The one hundred third birthday for the national park service national park service founder's day on on this day in one thousand nine hundred thousand nine president woodrow wilson signed. What's now called the organic act which established the service protecting areas of land across all fifty states in honor of founders day. We wanted to bring the story about a grandma. Grandson duo started their road trip in two thousand fifteen if traveled twenty five thousand miles across thirty eight states and visited twenty nine u._s. National parks still counting. Here's a._b._c. news world news tonight. Anchor david muir bread ryan and his grandma joy roy embarking on their first road trip to a national park in twenty fifteen great smoky mountains national park in tennessee. Grandma joyce spent her first night in a tent ten at age eighty five. She'd never camped a night in her life. We arrive at one a._m. In the rain and she held the umbrella over my head while i put the tent together the the majority of her life has been spent in this tiny little town in ohio called duncan falls the desert sand dunes speeches. All of that was was really something something that she had yet to experience. They've taken five road trips together already. So far we have traveled twenty. Five thousand miles across thirty eight states hitting twenty nine u._s. National parks one of the most memorable great sand dunes national park in colorado. We walked across the the sandy landscape and up a sand dune and then she got down on the ground and i said what are you doing. She said i wanna i wanna rule down that looks fun and i think just tapped into some inner sense of childhood wondering under in her she said how can you get hurt on the sand. You gotta give it a world. You're only going to be here once right. How fun getting back she did kept going visiting visiting the grand canyon yellowstone joshua tree and glacier national park. There was redwood national park to hey grandma. Where are we were in. The middle of redwood would for us. How do you feel when you look at these trees and make you feel very small. Does it make you feel very young not me. I've walked many miles and she still walking texas and new mexico next cheering for grandma joy coming up a sports star survives a plane crash many aviation scares. We've seen this year. We'll tell you about depend on perspective. After this tied down at work. Don't let your search for software. 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This is perspective a closer look at the week's top stories and the stories. You may have missed. I'm sherry preston coming up pirate radio in the u._k. The first last week dale earnhardt junior and his family survived a fiery plane crash. The nascar legend was with his wife and fifteen month old daughter when they're playing bounce twice and landed hard in tennessee bursting into a building ball of smoke and fire the crash follows a summer of other aviation scares a._b._c.'s stevo since saami has more challenges the aviation industry's base this year i would mrs caught the terrifying moment on their cell phones a small plane bouncing down low. Suddenly it's an inside nascar legend dale earnhardt junior his wife and their baby daughter an airplane. That's crashed landed completely wrong. The fireball swallows the plane's wings. It's on fire fire. That's insane. This call for help came out of the bill through the senate is on fire everyone watching holding their breath and then in the plains broken jetway pop so the baby is one of the first to come out as everyone else runs for for their lives. It's a daring miraculous escape for the earnhardt family. The plane's two pilots and the family dog and everyone watching read the sigh of relief as the family makes it out with seconds to spare it didn't didn't take long for the whole plane to become a giant ball of smoke and fire dramatic video shows first responders racing to the scene arthur putting claims that can be seen for miles be eleven seat cessna citation is owned by earnhardt junior and registered to his north carolina in a base company. It took off from states north carolina and landed in elisabeth in tennessee then something went terribly wrong. Authorities say that surveillance video they've collected from nearby businesses show the plane hitting the runway so hard the right landing gear was destroy the n._t._s._b. Says they've talked to both the earnhardt family and the two pilots. Let's earnhardt sister kelly tweeted shortly after the crash that everyone is safe. Earnhardt's close call follows another stunning mid air save that same day all two hundred hundred thirty three people aboard this rush aircraft miraculously survived after being forced to land in a cornfield. The pilot descended seconds after taking off outside moscow how when birds flew into both jet engines causing one to catch fire seventy six people including nineteen children had minor injuries. The pilot is now being hailed the hero a summer of aviation accidents began with two tragic float plane crashes in alaska killing five passengers and pilot a month later in june. This skydiving skydiving plane crashed in hawaii. The beechcraft sixty five king <unk> airplane went down shortly after takeoff kind forward talion five with a downed on the aircraft locally each killing all ten men and one woman on board making it the deadliest accident involving the civil airplane in the united states since two thousand eleven in my forty years as a firefighter here in hawaii. This is the most tragic <hes> aircraft incident that we had. This isn't the first time this plane has had trouble double heroin video from two thousand sixteen shows. The plane packed with skydivers forced to bail out during the emergency. Aw pieces of the plane were falling off mid air. Incredibly credibly knowing injuries were reported but the plane suffered substantial damage according to the n._t._s._b. After tale repairs the plane was back in the air until its fateful crash this summer a wakeup call for people looking to book trips on smaller aircraft's for earnhardt jr. The accident isn't his family's first brush with death. The third generation nascar nascar driver comes from a family of dare-devils. He's won twenty six races including the daytona. Five hundred twice is legendary father. Dale earnhardt senior died in two two thousand one after crashing in the final lap of the daytona five hundred earnhardt. Jr. continued racing for years after his dad's death in a statement. His spokesman thanked the public public for their concern in the wake of the crash. I look at this though and i'm like someone walked away from that. It's hard to believe it's hard to believe. The good lord was in charge joan that flight absolutely stevenson saami and elisabeth in tennessee coming up serena returns to the u._s. open year after for some controversy involving a chair umpire on perspective after this a._m. Dan harris from a._b._c. news and i have a podcast and you should listen to it. It's called ten percent happier. It's all about how to stay sane in our increasingly insane world. We talked to everybody from the dalai. Lama emma signs born for human to rupaul. You have to explore this life. It's fun and interesting may even change your life. You can listen to it for free on apple podcasts or on your favorite podcast app. Welcome back to perspective. I'm sherry preston the u._s. Open begins on on monday. Serena williams will be returning this year looking to move past. The umpire call made against her in two thousand eighteen e._s._p._n. Docu series called back story explores what happened when serena williams sparred with chair umpire carlos ramos during the championship final ultimately losing her twenty four th grand slam title for more corporate. Here's a._b._c.'s byron pitts hupa battle that define the two thousand eighteen u._s. open women's final not one between the players and the court battle between a superstar and care pipe one centered around allegations competing between a player and devoted coach to help her. That's my job. Serena williams meltdown would overshadow historic match and had the world talking about tennis and women in sports long after the final good evening. Everyone and we welcome you to the trophy celebration of the united states open. No e._s._p._n.'s new docu series backstory raveling how and why one of the most celebrated finals in sports it's teaching the most famous female athletes the world turned into arguably the most devices and darkest moment in recent tennis history arena the series follows pulitzer pulitzer prize winning journalist don van natta as he peels back the layers of this event including the lives of both williams and ramos to try to understand how the to found themselves at this point and what it all says about tennis and society about romo's act story his history three as an umpire. What is that how would you characterize. Romo's was only sixteen when he began working as chair umpire. One friend said he was so focused. He treated local satellite events. This is if they were the wimbledon. Final romo's had an incredible will to succeed so d two little girls a world away in compton california venus and serena williams are are perhaps the greatest sport story ever with two sisters not just one tiger woods in the family but to a african american family in a predominantly white sport. This family came out of competent and decided we're gonna take over for tennis and we're gonna win wins. She did coming in only the dominant player in women's tennis the one who was going to push the envelope through her fierce to win challenge efficient even her outfits choices. Serena won singles titles at the u._s. Celtics heading into to the two thousand eighteen open. She had a shot at the record plant. There was an expectation that she was going to tie. Margaret court's record twenty four singles titles grand slam singles titles and everybody expected serena was gonna win going into the match whether it was the pressure of the moment or simple slip-up williams and her coach would make a huge mistake patrick. Murata glue has been serena's coach for seven years two games into the second set. He believes she was in trouble tried to help her and he did something that would change the match. Go coaching warning. Mrs williams if he gets up he's telling me we don't have any code. I know you don't know that and understand why you may have thought that was coaching. It's telling you it's not just like patrick who is not known to be one of those coaches who coaches all the time and you know i didn't understand until they showed patrick and when they showed him it was i thought ought to go forward to going to the net from that moment on the match was spiral out of control for waves broken racket in frustration another violation and then and this moment caraballo horrible of us news during this is really asaka would finish your off in the second set. Beck story follows done as he he confronts serena's coast to find out exactly what happened in that pivotal. Moment was the first time patrick you ever sent a signal to serena. Yes and you chose to do it at that moment wide but because i felt it was important moments <hes> she was it was probably one of them because moment of a career she's a grandson final to equal the record of all times and she's losing and she's. I feel that moment. She's lost on the courts <hes> <hes> so. I tried to help her as it was horrible for us. It was horrible for serena. It's fantastic for tennis. It's unbelievable. That was the best moment of attorneys for the last ten years. This was everywhere. We don't have any dramas into this. We have dramas in all the other sports but not in tennis in a post-match press. Conference serena was unbound the fact that i have to go through this is just an example for the next person that has emotions and express themselves and they want to be a strong woman and they're gonna be allowed to do that. Because the today serena versus the higher pushed every button race gender power rules sportsmanship fairness when chair umpires or at their best they're invisible carlos ramos who's by the book but he lost control of the match gary even if the back story of serena's fury fades with time time many will see in that singular enduring image what she wants us to see serena as the champion for justice defending her honor against a man dan sitting high in a chair looking down on her giving up pirate radio in the u._k. About its it's history and how it's still rock and roll today on perspective after this have a dream but don't know where to begin. I didn't want to be limited looking for wisdom for women men. Who've already been there. You will constantly be given the opportunity to lose yourself. Welcome to a._b._c.'s no limits. I'm your host rebecca jarvis and each week. We're talking to the game. Name-changing women about success lessons learned along the way and of course the worst advice. I really thought about this worst advice. Ever you can hear new episodes of no limits limits every week on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app. This is perspective from a._b._c. news. I'm i'm cheri. Preston britain's radio pirates really was a thing and it's hilly's it's radio caroline d._j. Sent songs through the airwaves from ships is located off the coast of britain in international waters giving brits access to the music they weren't hearing. Those deejays are still working today off ships ships a._b._c.'s. Tom rivers story jerry think of it as a living breathing unique piece of broadcasting history in the u._k. Where the legendary former for off shore pirate station radio caroline returns to the airways one weekend per month romance old home the vessel the raw survey it. It's renegade days of fighting. The government are well over. Ship was told into britain from international waters way back in one thousand nine hundred ninety one drifted and ran aground on a sandbank ever since then it's been predominantly internet station studios based on land but people here love nostalgia and these days the authorities allow allow it to broadcast from the old ship now anchored in british territorial waters couple of days each month and the reception from the listeners. Remember the old glory days days pop music broadcasts from the high seas going back and sixties is one appeared to light as they relive however briefly apart of their treasured. You've back before the internet back. When the transistor radio rule for the d._j.'s now taking part in these special nostalgia broadcasts from the old radio ship now anchored in essex it represents a time to relive old tales of the north sea salt of having lived through that berry unique experience has left. Its mar a very special bond. One of the team is day foster kind of organizes the special weekend broadcasts every month. I've now taken up the the <hes> the mantra of range in the whole things so i called everybody up and arranged food and arrange the boat to get out here and <hes> just come out and if autobody or any in addition to being on the air part of babes role is to bring the station into the twenty first century with this i._t. Schools nowadays radio stations that run on computers and you get your mile by eight mile rather than white in six weeks for lettuce to come through the post and wait now have roughly around forty thousand tracks on the computer. Oh you jingles or commercials there any sound effects you and decide. The connections are everything in the biz. Chris pearson is also part of the station. These days has real job is running manx radio joe on the isle of man which re transmits the carolina output when it comes from the radio shit. What are these special broadcasts mean to him the best description and give you the first time came back after being away for thirty thirty two years from my original time. I got back home very late nitro but downtown shits my wife. I remember now why i'm doing radio in the first week said rediscovered a passion and a love and just remembering all the meetings and the the the the money side and all that stuff that has to go with it to make it work actually at the end of this about about somebody in the microphone releasing somebody else and and hopefully feelings increase amusing sharing that funding that passion and and that for me was it johnny lewis got his start in radio on caroline back in the seventy the reason i do it is because i enjoy it too. I'm surrounded by great broadcasters and great mates as well and not only that he's putting something back into caroline because because it gave me everything i've had and give me a living basically for forty years d. j. rey clark agrees. He says the carolina experience shaped his li- i was lucky enough to work on on the ship out in the eighties and learned my trade and boy oh boy. This is the place to learn trade. You just immersed radio. There's no escape you learn what is to to be learned and working with some great guys who who religions than still on now and look back in this new century twenty one thousand nine hundred twenty. We can do it all over again on a ship chip and we can go home after two days which is even better. Peter phillips says coming back to the station has been like stepping into the way back machine. I came back here it. It was it was twenty six years. I think from the time that i left to the time that i came back and the first thing that i noticed was how much coach hadn't changed. There are certainly if you look closely. They're certainly things that have changed inevitably. Nothing stays the same for thirty years but actually it's astonishing how much hasn't hasn't changed and actually my cabinet hasn't really changed much. I think somebody's tucked away my old jacket but <hes> but other than that it's pretty much as i left it. There are many listeners who've stayed with us for that length of time and it's nice they have done this. Something about carolina does that no other station would do that. I think <hes> but carolina's special always has been. It's had its ups and downs is off the air for spells <hes> always had loyalty from its listeners and it's always had the sort of special on the ross revenge the spiritual ritual home of radio caroline. Tom rivers a._b._c. news on the blackwater estuary england from a._b._c. news. 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Mason & Ireland (HR 1)

Mason & Ireland

34:17 min | 1 year ago

Mason & Ireland (HR 1)

"Michael give me a guest woo. Gotta get ready for this. Do my boy rick flair. Some justice ooh michael tops in is here sports fans. It's mason in ireland mason still gallivanting across europe who was growling yesterday. He'll growl with yesterday. Was it communist camps today and tomorrow yeah as you say. All the white guys grow but i've you today is definite funds. The funds odds with a tomorrow trudell thursday and then i have either your brian friday thing is brian again friday but then mason's back next monday but michael a lot got to get to today and you haven't had a chance to react to the andrew lucked story. We'll get to that in a minute. You also haven't really had a chance to fully reacted the dwight howard signing. We'll get all your <unk> thoughts coming up but i want to start with the dodgers last night. <hes> they're continuing to struggle offensively. They strode against the yankees on sunday and and then last night they scored only three runs in san diego and lost and at the end of the game. Justin turner struck out looking. Here's what it sounded like the padres t._v. Network pitch from three tories fired up is number three and that's the end of the ball game rodrigue copeland upmeyer is hearing hearing it from turner and dave roberts out there getting into way. This game is over and i'm telling you michael. It's going to happen greg greg today while we're on the air. They're going to suspend justin turner because he made contact with that umpire rob drake and they absolutely should not do it. Turner was walking towards drake who was walking towards the exit and turner simply got in his path. He didn't bump him. It wasn't aggressive. It was i would say incidental contact and michael greg. Do you agree with me that baseball's going to overreact and suspend him i don't. I don't think he's he's gonna get suspended for this. It's that was nothing. There's heated not actually go in and try and bump him. There was no hard as the bump. It's more of a brush over. There was run into you you harder in the aisle on the plane right. There's i don't believe that the m._l._b. Will go way overboard and if even if they do then he's gonna go and he's going to. He's going to appeal it and he won't get suspended at all. I might might be a little bit of a fine well which is what they should do. Fine yeah fine you. Can you make some incidental contact and usually get fine but that's it now. Let me argue argue. What baseball's lawyers are gonna argue cheese. Any contact with the empire is never appropriate and we have to draw a hard line with no physical all contact at all. You made the contact. You gotta look at intent also who believe but how do you gauge. That's like a ball. How do you gauge intent you can tell when a pitch gets away from ah pitcher and you're gonna tell them times and you can tell when an player intentionally but gets into a referee or umpire space and tries to bump you can tell come now since now a bigger decision is going to be great. Did you watch the ninth inning. I missed it okay so a._j. Pollock kirby eight struck out the side for the dodgers a._j. Pollock was was rung up on a pitch right on the line like right on the border. Justin turner was rung up on a pitch right on the border so as i'm making this argument i i fully realize that both of these guys may have struck out anyway but we gotta go to computer strikes next year. Gotta do it these these these calls that are deciding games that it depends on how big or small the home plate umpire is this guy. Rob drake was kind of a normal bill but if it was that fat guy eric gregg from a few years ago then the strike zone gets wider remember when he leave on hernandez was throwing anything near the plate and air greg was calling it a strike greg. Give me the argument against going going to a computerized strikes. Oh i'm fully on board with a robot umpire but i guess if you want the actual argument for why it's not as because there has to be human error involved in in that game. This is how it's always been. It's the way that it's been back since the baseball began away. There's always a guy that's this is the argument michael we have. We have video replay now for close plays at home play bang babies first base so we're correcting those umpires why not correct balls and strikes correct <hes> in and out calls and tennis all the time and <hes> you still have the empire behind the plate but yeah i mean they've had this conversation with your son. Trace way for people don't know michael's youngest son is a major league baseball player who is in the minors right now played for several years with the dodgers and other teams. Have you ever had this this jail did he's trace in favor of of <hes> of computerized balls and strikes he wouldn't be against it obviously still have the empire for plays at the plate to make calls but <hes> yeah he's not against it. If that that the technology to do obviously do it's already michael. It's called quest dak and that's why when you watch again. If you're watching the game last night they put that box up and show how fast the pitch was was an actually yates's pitch to turner kind of kick clips the corner of the box so i'm arguing that we should put in a computerized strike zone but turner me have lost the argument in this case anyway. Joe turner was justin. Turner is known for arguing lots of balls and strikes where the way that he stands on the plate and that it's that outside strike is called on him consistently gently and he's very tough for him to realize it's outside and inside but going to a robot until actually are with a robot umpire. You can't complain about the umpires. This happens night right in and night out. Sometimes you get to know. I actually think the exact opposite. I think that if you michael tell me if you agree if you put in the computerized zone then they'll l. all stop arguing computer. I think that's the best way to go but that had meantime now since it's subjective turner is going to argue tilles blue in the face and probably probably get suspended at eight for this incidental contact thing which is stupid because mike when you play didn't you have way more give and take with the officials in the n._b._a. Guys yeah now. That's what drives me crazy to m._b. Officials are so sensitive now so in tune with their feeling so into their feelings as they say that players can't yell at them and the and the arms adults. Don't give it right back to them. They're so quick to tee up guys in the n._b._a. Now just because a guy vehemently vehemently disagrees with a call. I hate that well in your day. It would take you had to do something extraordinary to get thrown out of the game now. If you swim wear at an empire they will they will literally throw you out yeah. I i mean it's so hypersensitive that and understand that if you talk to say well we're man and we deserve respect. Yes they heat of the battle right realized that no one's paying to come see you empire up. Give them a war. I give them a stern warning if they use colorful language in town if you keep it up then three yeah and it just seems to me if <music> i'm gonna greg. I'm absolutely gonna lose it if they throw if they suspend turner today i just it. It'd be a shame abbas was arguing vociferiously differs slightly michael and he he made this wasn't slammed the hill puff your chest out in bump into the empire and yet everything i read on the the internet today was turner makes contact with umpires and i'm afraid because they're kind of absolutist when it comes to contact with the empire that they're going to get a ah game or two and i think my biggest thing here and you saw it who made the contact. The umpire walked into justin turner. He got in front of him but then the umpire chicken and egg thing if if you're walking to your office and i stand in the hallway and directly stand in the around me who in your office who bumped to right well why mom to me but i got directly in your way into it was it was terrible. If if you get suspended for that it's an absolute absolute travesty. It's dumb that would be the worst thing for there's other much more bigger reasons to suspend people than that and so the dodgers sending walker bueller tonight to hopefully get this. What's greg what's their offense capitulate ferris bueller right. No he's been good. The two guys that have struggled are not even two guys reuse struggled kershaw gave some home runs but buehler last start looked pretty good. He's looked good last couple starts and he's been he's going to be good against the offense though is just at a situation where they're not playing like they did at the beginning of the season when their patient and waiting eating for pitches there's pitches that are coming right down the middle of the plate and they're looking off of it and then there's just a pitch that's way outside and they're swing like crazy for it. They're just the patients has gone away. Instead of taking these long at bats walking. They're just swinging away and that's not how this dodger offense works. I think that's all going to fix soon michael. How worried should dodger fan speed that the yankees handke's took two out of three from over the weekend. Judge homered in every game. Yeah you always wanna win those games against a team. You think you might see in those series but <hes> nothing to worry about now. It's only august this apple in october and then you've got something to worry about yeah. I thought the yankees look really good and they're going to get a bunch of people back so i think there are a really formidable opponent but the yankees may not get to the world series. The astros stroz are very good. You know the twins in the as could rise up the i think the dodgers have the best chance to get their if the yankees get there we talked ad nauseam mhm yesterday about all the things the yankees do well and they match up really well against the dodgers. They're the number one team in the majors against left handed starting pitching the dodgers would throw three left in that series review kershaw richhill they also hit more home runs than any team in the major leagues and they would be the yankees would be getting back. Michael probably eight guys that aren't on their on their team right now. Including john carlos stanton dylan vitanza sale and luis severino all all were key guys so they they're really big team to watch and it seems like it's coming altogether for them. Okay coming up next more fallout allowed from the big andrew. Luck announcement. Michael hasn't had a chance to react to that and we're going to tie it to the n._b._a. In a weird way michael michael thompson information. I'm john ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. All right mason in ireland michael tomson information today and on saturday night in a stunning thing turn of events andrew luck who michael you want to argue could be the games i two hundred million dollar guaranteed player back when he was healthy yeah i i thought it was a sort of a trending that way when his next big free agent here would come up. I thought he would be the first guy to break the two hundred million dollar barrier but now that looks like that's going to be another quarterback in kansas city yeah padma homes but <hes> andrew luck retired he. He explained that he's in too much pain. He can't play through it. Reaction has been swift. Most people are understanding of it. They feel bad. Other people like veteran quarterback. Steve berlin says you can't do that to your teammates teammates. You can't do it in august this close to the start of the season. What's your take on andrew luck retiring when he did on saturday night we we did the right thing. <hes> i don't care about the timing saturday night or today or yesterday or last week. Whenever you decided you know sending over the sideline my body's all broken up. I've probably maybe right now. He's feeling i've lost the passion to play and once you lose that passion to want to be out there and it's time to move on. I don't care who you are. What sport you play and so i'm sure he talked it over with his wife and his and his father who was a former n._f._l. Quarterback and he figures saying if i can't do it physically anymore. It is time to go out on a prolong on this drag it out mislead my team on my teammates on my owner so he did the right thing the right time. Whether it's <hes> saturday or today uh you've talked openly on the show before for people who don't know michael and his wife julie raised three professional athletes. His oldest son and michael made it to the n._b._a. You know clay who is a star player for the warriors and we talked about trace whose baseball player you made a decision when when your boys were arguably the best athletes at their high school that you would not let them play football right why does look at the toll it takes on your body and plus they all love football love playing youth football and they play it up until seventh grade eighth grade but at that age the game isn't that violent. It's more tackle with drag you down home instead of head hunting like they do in high school college in the n._f._l. When the kids are bigger than the bigger stronger faster and again gets even more physical youth football is more wrap view up dragging down rugby style tackling but i told play trace and michael say do you guys want to play college football. They all said no as well if that's the case case then no high school football because it makes no sense to put your body through kind of punishment if your goal isn't the plan college or eventually in the n._f._l. Like most kids is a who played football would like to believe that it can reach those next two levels so since they were not going to allow interested in playing pursuing football beyond <hes> say high high school i said then play the other sports you love and that what you say the punishment on your body. I'm gonna reg- a quote from lebron who said this a few years ago and he feels exactly the same way assume he had this conversation with his wife julie. Did here's a little brian a few years ago quote. We don't want them to play football talking about his own kids. We don't want them to play football in our household household until they realized how physical and how demanding the game is then they can have their choice and they get older into high school. We'll talk it over but right now. There's no need need for it. There's enough sports. They can play. They play basketball. They play soccer. They play everything else but football and hockey. It's a safety thing as apparent. <hes> you particular kids as much as possible. I don't think i'm the only one that's not allowing kids to play football. It's just that i'm lebron james. It gets puts in the headlines for some reason and quote michael you. You had this position fifteen years ago. Lebron had it five years ago now. A high-profile stanford graduate quits before he turns thirty is this a trend did did andrew lectures. Just start art a safety. No decision has been a trend other guys have done a linebacker from the forty niners played his rookie year then i think he had a concussion decide. I'm hanging it up right you just these. These people just aren't as bigger name. He's the biggest name player to ever do this sort of maybe retire. Prematurely because of injuries other guys have done throughout the years for the last last fifteen twenty years it just that nobody of this highest stat status or stature and you know i wouldn't surprise me to see him. Come back not this year. Maybe you'll take a year or talk and we'll take he's only twenty nine thirty one thirty two because you know jim. Everything's gonna keep calling and checking on him. Well yeah and they should for for way. Sacrifices body for the franchise <hes> but you know earth is going to stay in touch with them. How you feel in you know six months from now a year from now. What do you think you think you still wanna play and a thirty one thirty thirty two if he says you know what i've rested up i two or three years off. I think i wanna play again when surprise me you <hes> you left out in a another big name. He's the second big name n._f._l. Fell player who's quit before the age of thirty this year the other one i miss everybody's already forgotten about him. Rob gronkowski. Oh yeah that's right and and gronk was doing a talk the other day and he basically this was yesterday he laid out he quit for the same reasons luck quit. Here's rock wherever i go. Patriots fans always ask and my coming back when i'm coming back. Where am i coming back. I'm walking across the street. You're walking because you're coming back. It is crazy. I understand i feel that love by. I wanna be clear to my fans. I needed to recover. I was not in a good place. Football was bringing me down and i didn't like it and i was losing that joy in life like take the joy. I'm sorry oh dang oh. I really was and i was fighting through. It and i knew what i signed up four and i knew what else fighting through and i knew i just have to fix myself my god. I don't blame these guys once it. Once angela at one hundred million in the bank grunk got close to it it they don't need to do this more and i have a very hard time criticized. I know that there are a lot of x. n._f._l. Players criticizing lucky yesterday chris chris mortensen said he's heard from a lot of x. quarterbacks who won't go on the record but feel like lex screwed his team over. Oh please go there. No they're idiots. The guys beat up he saw four. He's lost a passionate a will play what is he supposed to fake it go out there and and and his heart's not in it and go out and steal from his team and rob from his teammates because he's really not into easily so this is. This is one of your core things that you've said from the beginning and they you said jerry west told you and you've got traded to the lakers michael. If you don't wanna be here for any reason let me know and we'll work something out you think you do you think people got to be all in physically and mentally it got to be all in. That's why he's criticizing him. I don't get it <hes> if the guy's physically physically feels a can't do anymore he doesn't wanna do anymore and he's mentally checked out. You got to go. He's doing the right thing and if the costa side the key pain because out of out of gratitude for what he's done for the franchisee which is good for them. What is wrong with people these days. I actually think andrew l._x. Retirement announcement may change the way teams practice moving forward. We'll get into that next michael thompson information. I'm john ireland. This is mason in ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. Hey let me read you this. The big three championship. Yes is on on the line this sunday at staple center. Gotta go joe johnson. I so joe is the favourite his team. The triplets take on stephen jackson accident killer threes if you call right now eight seven seven seven ten e._s._p._n. Caller seven and ten when a four pack of tickets the big three championship chip comes to l._a. This sunday staples tickets on sale. Now or catchy action live on c._b._s. Too at twelve pm on sunday eight seven seven seven ten e._s._p._n. And your chance to win tickets to the big three championship right now e._s._p._n. L._a. players that are your age. Some of the dick butkus can hardly walk like me yeah. I mean and i'm wondering these are pretty high profile guy gronk andrew lock in the n._b._a. Hey we're seeing load management and i hate but hey it's. Here's you don't need any n._b._a. Tearless in football aren't they going to have to go to some type of for lack of of a better term hit management and limit the hits on these ready doing that ireland the only allowed to think maybe hit once a week and i'm sure they don't go full out on the obviously the candidate the quarterbacks. I don't think they go for anybody's knees or anything. They've already reduced the contact in the n._f._l. Practices i mean you can demarco far. They'll tell you that right. Eliminated eliminated completely on sunday night well. That's pretty much. What mcvay does now mcveigh the guys he's planning on starting. They network one opener against carolina have not been in any games not even like in practice that interior linemen who gets contact every every play like aaron donald guys. They haven't been hit at this whole year. It's very limited but i don't think todd gurley he's been hit. I don't think jared goff's been hit and i wonder if he's not ahead of the curve because you look lux twenty nine but then how do you i guess on week. One is when you get your first bit of contact. Would you say for you for starters and just let let your body these are n._f._l. Players michael been getting hits entice school in your case. You said your boys played middle school yeah so yeah so how do you how do you police. Do you not let it until the first game i would. I think you may have to hit in the in the likely they'll be too much of a shock to your body will finally get that first week of hits. I don't know oh i mean you're the one who played in the n._b._a. I think you've got two different thing yeah n._f._l. I it just seems to me that this has been coming for a while. We had the concussion movie. We have all the moms filling their our kids can't play football. Now we have andrew and rob. Gronkowski retiring probably will go into the hall of fame for sure. Oh yeah no question lot probably not one of my <hes> fasttrack questions. I was going to argue shimmering now. How's it going to argue on his behalf. Deceive you and greg who's greg is hard on people wind comes to hall of fame. He's he's. He doesn't want to put anybody. Anybody's unreasonable equally barry sanders should have got it but it is the hall of fame not hall of very good. He's already yeah well. We'll do it say ashtray. We'll talk with by the way in fifteen minutes. Allen sleep well the host of laker talk. He hasn't been fired yet has the most we won't get fired but he's he's going to. He's going to explain himself had the most absurd tweet in his short. Laker talk hosts career that we will get him to explain. That's coming up in fifteen minutes coming up next what the heck happened last night at the u._s. Open that was supposed to be like like the greatest first round matchup we've ever seen a rematch of two grand slam finalist and i have a theory on what has happened to maria. Reassure povo really and i'm going to run it by you next i it. It's the only thing to me that makes sense so i know you have tennis again. We'll get into that neck and wait to hear this. Hey employees bosses. 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A.'s ziprecruiter dot com slash l. a. they will find the right employees like for you like a gregg bergman like a john ireland and they'll get the riffraff like me won't waste your time ziprecruiter ziprecruiter dot com slash l._a. All right mason in ireland show michael thompsons information. Michael is the biggest tennis fan at e._s._p._n. L._a. <hes> i'm the u._s. Open began yesterday. Near daytona lisa's going my wife's going over next week to go next wednesday and thursday. Have you ever been to the u._s. Sopa yes i was there. The year jimmy connors made his run. Wow eighty nine. It was really one of the funds. You know ninety one one that's. Why did you see one of his matches against aaron. Christine thank you were there for that. Yeah that's like the iconic signature match yeah and he thought he was dead. Re times and krickstein like i can't can't kill this great and it was it was it was a magical bid if you've never been to one of these pro tennis tournaments the first thing you notice is how unbelievably leaveli hard they hit the yeah i mean the consistency would destroy all of us who love tennessee play tennis on a four or five levels amateurs. That's pretty good tennis would man that's a whole whole new world. It's like when you like you. You're like a five six seven handicap in golf around nine but thank you but now you go out there and you say you play with brooks. Kepco does all different world buddy so last night through a weird set of circumstances the u._s. Open was able to pair to former grand slam champions against each other. Maria sharipova is is chasing is eighty seventh in the world right now names now maria shera it's over yet could be and then serena williams is not ranked as as high as she normally is eight seat right well but in vegas. She's the favorite so depends yeah. They only really really good beater last year but anyway the bunch of girls who will so they decide okay. We're going to take advantage of this. We're gonna we're gonna put serena and venus or serena and maria head to head on the first night live on e._s._p._n. And they hyped it all week and it was going to be a really big match and so in prime time it was seven o'clock in the east coast. It's four o'clock here <hes> they said all right. This is our featured match. Serena destroyed maria she beater eight or six one six one in less than an hour eight minutes and i have a theory and i want you to tell me if i'm grabbing at straws about about what is wrong. Sharipova censure povayev failed a drug test in two thousand sixteen. She dropped eighty seventh in the world and hasn't made it past the quarterfinals in any grand slam event. Marie had been taking a drug called melt. Donate them which she'd been taking for ten years but it wasn't always band about halfway through that run. They banned it. <hes> is it possible michael that she's like jose can saco. She can't play if she's not on the juice. No maria still can beat women every now and then this bushfires winnie a major or slams when they call him. Now i mean those days are over with because the girls the women on the tour now ireland have expanded so much in their athleticism there movement on the court. You look at simona halep. Look at naomi osaka the top women in the game now they really can cover the court from sideline the sideline they run down every shot. That's why serena has a hard time. Beating <hes> ladies ladies like simona halep or even before because they run down those shots that make serena hit one more and soon against a little impatient and makes eras because she's not used to these fast women remember serena and venus is to be the fastest women on the tour could run down all the shots because they had that speed but now the women have evolved oh so much in the last ten fifteen years their athleticism lobbies fast girls are coming out there now. Maria never had that she always had to groundstroke she could hit with power but she never had that court coverage and that's why today's women evolve in that part of the game and improve party gained so much better and that's why i'm maria can't beat the top women anymore because they have better athleticism that she ever had let me ask you something your several times over the next two weeks you will spend two or three hours watching the turn ago strictly from atv product standpoint. What's more entertaining the men and the women ooh. That's a great question. I think the women even though the longer rallies rallies around is because of that and the men are kind of like a three headed monster those those three guys victory federer lost a set in his last night yeah he hadn't woken up yet yet but <hes> i think the women are more compelling to watch <hes> because there's more evenly matched now in the doll and fatter in joke joke of its play each other. It's ten is you. I just can't believe guys are that good but i think women's feel as deeper because it's more wide open. Anybody can pop up and win but you look at the man's <hes> demands tour looks looks like is between the big three who are in their thirties thirties and the young kids or an early twenties look. I'm not ready to challenge those guys. I think women are more compelling because serena's probably the most dynamic player on the tour because he's because of a mood swings of what we saw in the u._s. Obama she had a meltdown and <hes> so she still the most famous woman athlete on the planet so i think women are more compelling than the men you see what she said when they asked her about carlos ramos no promise was the empire she got into the argument with last year and so this year in a preemptive move the u._s. Open decided not to have ramos being the big stick for any match involving being venus or serena dumb imagine if he was in the chair. I imagine this is just match. They said hey serena what's your is. The fact that the u._s. open band carlos ramos from you're in your sister's matches. Do you have an opinion on that and serena's answer was. I don't know who that is. The the greatest smile real serious. Look just dead serious like don't wait a minute report a follow up with a guy who you know you had the problem in the models. That was their answer. Would you have acid a follow up the when the guy who wrap up see if she took the bait it gave reminded me of kobe during the final. Do you remember how kobe used to go dark during the playoffs and so you know kobe is one of the smartest always dark no no but he was one of the smartest most engaging interviews you could have and in the finals you would say to him. Hey koby you so you now have to go up against carmelo anthony and the nuggets. They're you know they're having a great season and they're really good at home. What are the challenges of beating them in kobe would go score for more than they do. That's it like go into bill belichick mode and i've always wondered about that the other day he was doing an interview. The serena thing reminded me of it. The other day kobe was was doing an interview with this guy named patrick bet david. He's an entrepreneur noor and kobe said that when the games would roll around especially the important games he would this won't surprise you because of vow competitive you know he was but i've never heard of admit this. He said he would actually in his own head. Go through a personality change he would would pretend he was an actor in a movie. Listen to this. I've never heard him. Admit this separation from me. You know emotionally to be able to put myself in a place. We're at practice and i'm training during games. I switched my mind to something else. Switch mode into something else right for me. It's the equivalent a billion of maximum desma meridia sin gladiator picking up dirt. Smelling dirt is go tom right so that was my mental switch. It was like an actor getting ready for film. You gotta put yourself in a cage when you're in the cage. Are that character then when you leave. There is something completely different but when i'm in that cage broke. Don't talk to me. Leave me alone. I used to be so games like for like certain certain key games <hes>. I don't think i ever said this before. This kind of makes me seem very psychotic. Whatever i used to it play the halloween theme song over and over and over in my headphones pre-game seriously seriously seriously eh it was important that it was michael myers because the mask itself was void of emotion void of emotion sure it has nothing to do with hype. It has nothing to do with camaraderie stone cold killer and i will listen to this song over and over and over and that's best when you know you better run in 'cause that's a lot of people coming out or so might go. We've always thought that kobe was people would say the difference between kobe and all the other players was the other players wanted to win. Kobe wanted to kill oh you know he wanted. He wanted to beat you and make sure you knew he beat. You does it but this is next level stuff. This is the song would listen to his headphones phones over and over and over again but he's different from magic. He's not even from steph. Curry was a nice guy yeah but not when it came to the finals in the playoffs awesome tell us persuade position okay boys as playoff time <hes> make let your wife and your girlfriend's take a family stuff is all about business now so different. I'm from michael jordan from of from kevin durant that i saw in around the warriors or lebron nebraska center playoff mental modes kobe's all great. Tom brady's like does she think tom brady's all genie congenial and hunky dory when the patriots will run all a great all great massage wall players who will who are helping out the major stars like kobe. Yeah we get into our little <hes> focused on our little world but those guys take it to another level so all a great ones are like that when they when they know that the success the winning on the team is on their shoulders because the rest of us. Are there help we not. We understand that the when you know that all the focus is going to be on you because you are the man. They all go into this. This sort of this sort of weird realm the david sort of go into he also said in that same interview bet david asked him if shack would have had your work ethic. I always take the result being kobe said he would have been the greatest player of all time would not have been close. Yeah i agree. I always say that well. We saw a version of that in the finals against the seventy six when shack iron that three ruined where he wouldn't three straight files even nowadays against the sixers for some reason shack took it personally against the tumble. Remember mama was rank defensive player of the year. The media was talking about. Maybe talkin slowdown shock. I remember this shack. You know thirty six and twenty in that final. Nobody will change us. Never done that. Kareem's number thirty six twenty. He the average engagement tumble. He destroyed them and you're right if he had that kind of mentality every year to say i'm gonna go i want to be the greatest kobe wanted to be known as the greatest so jordan these other guys as we all know about a shack had that's kobe's mentality kevin garnett's tally would been the greatest ever. There's one person here at e._s._p._n. L._a. Who thinks shack it was the greatest ever anyway and he will join us sub bergman again next e._s._p._n. L._a.

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The COVID-19 pandemics global ripple effects

Marketplace with Kai Ryssdal

25:26 min | 8 months ago

The COVID-19 pandemics global ripple effects

"So here's where we are in this economy. Tell me, would you if you disagree? One step forward. Three maybe four steps back. From American public media. This is marketplace. In Los Angeles I'm Kai Ras Monday today. The thirteenth of July good has always to have you along everybody we have come upon. In these strangest of strange days. What might well be the strangest corporate earning season? We are ever going to get over the next couple of weeks. We are going to hear from publicly traded companies how they did. April through June or virus speak in the worst of the crisis so far I. Guess I should say and honestly. It's anybody's guess. There is no crystal while for this. That's Andrea. Is felt an economist at the University of California Los Angeles and a state of heightened uncertainty, usually investors, sort of you know worry for the worst, but here there's sort of hoping for the best in the face it has to be said a lot of evidence, the latest, which came this afternoon from California Governor Gavin Newsom, ordering some of the reopening in this state to close restaurants, hair salons gyms among them a lot of the things that we were worried about like reopening too soon on having to shut down again. As a lot of epidemiologists and economists were telling us was going to happen one more thing to remember about all the earnings reports. We're GONNA. See the next couple of weeks. It doesn't take into account anything about the investment spending you know that has surely declined precipitously so even if we have demand. returning. We haven't been investing in future growth. Future growth is GONNA come. We should be clear about that. It's just a question of when. And of how much directly related to that future growth that is although I will tell you. We didn't plan it this way when we were putting the show together, but directly related to that future growth. Is this country's mask problem? Science tells US wearing a mask is our best defense politics from the white. House has tangled that message badly in. It's become more difficult than it should be to get the. The truth out, so local governments and companies have turned to the magic of marketing and advertising to try to unmixed that message marketplace. Kristen Schwab takes a look at whether the fine art of persuasion can get people to mask up back in May New York, launched a competition for ads persuading people to wear masks. There were more than six hundred entries. The winner is a rift on the famous is heartening. When we show up into mask, push each other show your love for. Has Major. You Californian Oregon have put out similar public service ADS and the Austin Chamber of Commerce recently started sending this message. Mask on each of us is a win for all of us. Edward Russell Professor of advertising at Syracuse University says PSA's like this can work seatbelts don't drink and drive smokey. The bear for forest fires take a bite out of crime. He says those campaigns changed public perception of certain issues, but masks aren't forest fires, which everyone agrees are bad. The battle over masks has become personal so Russell says the messaging has to be personal. The message has to be fast and simple. There has to be something in it for me. He says facts can be convincing showing how the virus spreads from one person to the next, and how masks can help prevent that. That's the focus of Uber's news commercial. The add shows a series of people's masked faces with text underneath saying when you wear a mask, you protect Gin Gin protects. Chelsea Chelsea protects Rafael the final line no mask. No Reid gymnast is a marketing analyst at Forrester certainly brands do see an opportunity to strengthen that bond between them and their customers in between them and their workers, who, in the end have to enforce the rules and take the heat from customers who don't want to follow them. I'm kristen trump for marketplace wall. Street on this Monday in the land that time forgot. Everything was fine good, even actually until California put on the economic breaks. We'll have the details when we do the numbers. I don't know if you saw that. The new. York Times gotTA TANS ON SOME CDC data a couple of weeks ago. That showed among all a lot of other really troubling realities. That black and Latino people are three times more likely to contract covid than their white neighbors are and twice as likely to die. Once they do get sick. One of the many reasons for that is that black and Latino workers are much more likely to have jobs that can't be done from home. Think bus drivers and healthcare attendants grocery clerks as well. Brownsville in Brooklyn in New, York City where eighty percent of residents are black, has been hit especially hard marketplace's jasmine. I went and spent some time there. Father. Edward Mason remembers when he realized covid nineteen was going to be devastating to his community and Brownsville. It was back in mid April in the local public housing complex. A lot of seniors weren't answering their phones. And whether it into the bill, when until you, farmers? They found ten seniors who had passed away alone in their apartment. Predominantly black with a heavy Latino influences well, since then, the virus has killed dozens of his parishioners to lodge sectors employment for community for the men. It's close stores. And for the women, it's home. Health aides in the health field. Both, of which were essential workers who kept working? So you had launched of population. Most of whom live in apartment buildings high density buildings. Having to go to work every day, Andre Palacio forty-one is one of those essential city workers in New York's homeless services met with her at her parents house. Her mom was frying fish for lunch in the kitchen while her dad watch the News Palaccio. Remember going to work with people who were getting sick. She asked for guidance from her employers and got none by late March. She was sick to the body. Aches it just. Took, over my body and I could not even. move it took over my chest and I had to stop the I could not function I had to call my supervisor and tell her I can't wait Palacio describes it cove. Nineteen came into Brownsville like a wildfire soon. Her entire family got it. Her Mom and her dad, who is nearing eighty. Her next door neighbor fell into a coma. Her uncle died from it Palacio says it wasn't just the fact that she got infected. It's the care she received. That makes her upset. I remember going to the the health clinic in this neighborhood and the insole. If you feel sick, why did you come here? You WanNa. Get me sit. You want to get other people sick and we were scolded us an essential worker like myself. Some essential workers say treatment like that made them feel. Disposable Carmen has worked at a hospital in New York for nearly twenty years in close contact with patients. That we not use her last name. She's worried about employer retaliation. We meet on her stoop and Brownsville on a hot summer day. She points to all the people who died here. In the last few months. We lost the people in the supermarket. We lost people that used to sell food outside. They hiring in the day pass away. Because they were letting the people that. She's in her fifties. At the end of March, she asked for some time off since her husband has heart condition that makes him high risk. And she was being exposed every day. Dating approved me to stay home so I asked full-time off the dating uproar. She eventually got sick. She says it was very hard to find testing here when she finally did. She tested positive. She was told to go home. I have played a rope a church. So we pray on the phone, we prayed twice a day. Then an assault, the moon when. Have mercy on us and the whole war. She, eventually recovered from the virus and is back at the hospital now working. Round Villa's colmer now than it was back in March and April neighbors are cleaning up their garage. A big graduation sign hangs on someone's porch. A car bumping music drives by. But many residents here wonder about the second wave of infection and how much New York and this neighborhood can endure. I'm Jasmine garst from marketplace. same day, deliveries become kind of a thing in this pandemic, not so much from Amazon, which has been doing or trying to do it for years, but from companies that leaned in hard once people stop going to actual stores targets a real good example, catches most of the shoppers who picked up from target stores and get it to you. Don't work for target. They are GIG workers at a third party platform, and they are protesting their pay structure this week because of setting a rate per order that they get paid, an algorithm takes into account stuff like how busy a is or maybe how bad street traffic is! Before figuring out how much people are GonNa? Get paid from the workplace culture desk marketplace's Meghan. mcardle Carino has more on how algorithms are increasingly ruling. GIG workers livelihoods. Most users are familiar with pricing where prices vary depending on demand, but that's just part of a complex web of algorithms that affect everything from which jobs a GIG worker is offered to how much they get paid for them. I really compared to the wizard behind the curtain, and was evolved Carlos Ramos has been a rideshare driver in San Diego for three years. Goff is happening back there and you have. have no idea what's going on. He's noticed some patterns like the first logs on, and he's offered a lot of shorter less lucrative rides until he decides to call it a day and head home, and I'll get a request and hundred mile trip and the other direction. This has happened kind and time again. He thinks it's because of lifts algorithm, but he can't be sure because companies keep their software secret. Secret, we have no idea everything that we know about. The Algorithms is based on what workers tell us they experience. Vena Dougal is a professor at UC Hastings. College of the law, she surveyed hundreds of gig workers to tease out how the algorithms work and she's concluded they're designed to keep workers logon for as little as possible. They therefore cannot predict their income on any given day or any given shift. Shift. These systems caused financial uncertainty that puts workers at a disadvantage, says Kate Crawford the CO founder of the AI, now instituted nyu these hours. Nick Systems are essentially increasing the Palais symmetry between workers and employers to quite an extreme degree. She says well. Each platform has its own unique algorithms. They all have a common objective to maximize profits often at the expense of workers I Megan McCarthy Carino for marketplace. Coming up, we started getting more goods in, but that's when our Reagan businesses started slowing down. The perils of misaligned supply and demand but first. Let's do the numbers. Yes kind of a wash the day. Basically, except for one I'll tell you about it down up. Ten basically flat, twenty, six, thousand, eighty-five Nasdaq Down Two hundred twenty six points, two point, one percent, ten, thousand, three, hundred ninety s and p five hundred down about nine tenths percent, thirty, one and fifty five there. Kristen was looking at the value of campaigns to encourage mask-wearing. How many people are wearing them now? Well here is what P research found in June survey about sixty five percent of us. Adults said they mourn masking stores or other businesses, all or most of the time about fifteen percent, said some of the time nine percent said they hardly ever wear a mask. Or a mask you're listening to marketplace. This is marketplace I'm. Kai Ryssdal crude oil the US benchmark West Texas. Intermediate to be precise, closed down a percent and a tenth day, just a hair over forty dollars a barrel. It's a long way from the negative tumble. We saw that day back in late April. If you remember that, but also a long way from where energy companies can make a profit. And so those companies are trying to cut costs, which means that if you run, a business, died the oil and gas, like for instance one that sells sand to drilling companies to use in fracking. You are not in a good way. Three FRAC SAND COMPANIES HAVE FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY SINCE JUNE! Marketplace's and dealer looked into how the faltering sand industry is hitting the small towns sustained by those sand mines. Sand is an important component of fracking producers. Mix It with water to blast oiling gas from shale. San Kept Marcelo Maldonado quite busy for four years at CNN J. Energy in Houston, he says when oil was selling at one hundred and twenty dollars a barrel a few years ago, he was buying sand from Wisconsin and shipping it down to Texas Lee standards to bring it from up north used the rail do a coach to the Wales. They've been mining Sanit Wisconsin for one hundred years, but fracking caused a boom Thomas Pearson at the University of Wisconsin Stout wrote a book about it. Many of the mining companies assured residents that this. This was an industry that was here to stay. Those promises were shown to be both because when oil was trading below thirty dollars, a barrel in two thousand sixteen, many San mines shutdown and to save money. Oil companies started buying sand closer to the wells Marcelo. Maldonado says one town in West Texas Kermit reap the benefits we shall a boom spike in job demands. A lot of people had to get hired to do operate plant. He says that lasted for a couple years, and then covid nineteen hit and oil prices tanked. Michael Weber at the University of Texas at Austin says when energy companies in San Minors proposed setting up in rural towns, local leaders often jump at the prospect of adding jobs and tax revenue, but there are always consequences. I think that's toys. The tension is how do you get the economic development without the volatility volatility is really difficult planners, and for people, the latest FRAC and company to seek chapter eleven. Protection is houston-based high crush, which operates minds in small towns around the country, including in Wisconsin and Minnesota. The company's is cut sixty percent of its workforce since mid-march. I made the Euler for marketplace. A little bit more than a week ago. President trump signed an extension of the paycheck protection program into law and move the application deadline out to August the eighth, because at least in part, the small business administration says there's still something more than one hundred billion dollars left in that program. In also far there have been almost four point. Nine million loans made under the P. Here is how some of those loans have played out in one place I'm Laurie Stewart, and I'm the president and CEO of Sound Community Bank, which is headquartered in Seattle, Washington. We've talked to Laurie Stewart a couple of times since sound community bank became one of the fifty four hundred lenders in the program. You're the end of June. June we had made eight hundred loans, and they totalled over seventy two million dollars. We've seen thousands of jobs jobs like quite a few coaches licensed architects veterinary assistance, racial staff who maintain the pool, estimates service, representatives or doing reception work, and then we also have your lifeguards. That's Stephen Fry gang. He's at Wave Aquatics nonprofit in Redmond Washington that does swim lessons and water polo. That kind of thing Bradley Corey also. Also the founder of an architecture and design firm in Seattle. Call to be nine architects and mark. Donovan is a senior partner at Seattle Veterinary Associates. All three of them got P P. loans through community bank. The bank that Laurie. Stewart runs loans that helped the three of them combined. Keep two hundred and thirty five people on their payrolls here. Stephen Fry gang from wave aquatics again if we had not gotten alone. Alone we would have had to lay people off probably on a permanent basis today we do have everyone on payroll. WHO elected to return meanwhile Bradley over it? Nine architects had some projects postponed. Some disappear altogether. I was concerned. How would support my staff and how I could maintain stability for them? And so the loan We've been paying primarily staff salaries same story from Donovan and his partners at Seattle Veterinary Associates. Not Successful early received a p P. P, loan they would have been extremely challenging. If not impossible for us to keep that workforce intact. According to the Census Bureau's most recent survey of small businesses, seventy five percent of small businesses tried to get P. P loans more than seventy two percent of them got those loans tess Thomas. Though was not in that number. She owns Emma's barbecue in south. Seattle sometimes when you don't have that a one eight plus credit rating. Works against you and it can work doubly against African American people I've not always been so fortunate in the financial area, being able to put those things together and especially so during the covert. She said she looked into getting a p loan. Start the application process with her bank, but looking at her credit score, and all the documentation they were asking for finally I. Just gave up even trying. Those things were were barriers and I. Know that I'm not the only one that has gone through this in African American businesses here in this community, so she's cut hours for her staff. She's only opening her restaurant three days a week now and just trying to hang on to the economy. Most of the virus. The same thing. It ought be remembered that for all the grim virus and attendant economic news here. This is a global crisis in one of the things that's been disrupted. Is Global Trade and that in turn brings us to our latest edition of. What's up? That's what's up world. World Today, the traded commodity of choice, is textiles and apparel, according to the latest data from the Department of Commerce the total value of US, textile and imperil imports in May. This year was down twenty five percent from a year earlier. That is of course the aggregate you break it down by region and country. and. It becomes a lot more tangible textile imports from Honduras down forty two percent from May last year, which is not good for companies that depend on the American Market Eric Jew is the general director of United Textiles of America based in Coloma Honduras Eric thanks coming on. Thank you for having me. So, first things I I. Suppose what has pandemic life been like in that economy down there I mean there lockdown or you out and about? How do you? How do you? Can you do business? It's been challenging to say the least The the government has put a lockdown in place and they've been. Dealing with varying degrees of openness and balance I guess the health of citizens along with the needs of the economy and I. They implemented a broad. Lockdown across the spectrum shut down the entire economy, but then they lifted in piece by piece and allowed essential industries to start operating with the United Textiles. We manufacture raw materials for. Personal protective equipment, which is considered essential industry. can we talk supply chain here for a minute Where do you get your raw materials? and has that been impacted by this whole thing? Yeah we bring in most of our raw materials from Asia and We're in the business and China really dominates the mall yesterday industry in China in the country alone manufacturers more polyester than the rest of the world combined at this time and. Initially when Covid nineteen started happening, China was on lockdown, so we weren't able to get our goods in and the rest of the industry around us was asking us. Hurry up and keep delivering as. The retailers and brands in the United States started panicking. Trying to keep the flow of goods going, and then after China, start recuperating, we started getting more goods in. That's when our regular business started slowing down. As you look around. At your plant Do you have worries that you're? GonNa have to lay people off. Are you going to be able to keep hiring people? I mean is it? Is it a? Is it a day to day? Thing now I suppose it is right. It is very much day to day thing. We actually had a surge where we hired. A few temporary employees. The US government through the Federal Emergency Management Agency FEMA. They placed a large order for hospital gowns and face masks, which really bowie industry here since then program sunsetted, and they've transferred over to the Defense Logistics Agency the delay part of the Department of Defense, and there's new bids going out, but things are very uncertain I. think that both agencies have been overwhelmed by the newness and the complexity of dealing with so much need a disparate supply chains. This is gonNA sound like a naive observation, but it's kind of wild to think of something like Fema and their decisions reaching a textile factory in Honduras. You know I'm just as a layperson. Yes I mean we're living in a globalised economy? and. Some small decisions by one government. Official can have global. It's very. Interesting world we live in today. Yes, it is. What quickly. What's the? What's the mood? I mean what's the? What's the general vibe on the streets when when you talk to your workers or when you go out and. I don't know. Just try to get some fresh air or something. There's certainly a lot of fear about covid. But here at United, textiles were very thankful that we still have work to do were hoping that some additional business will come out of the the delay. Programs were hoping that it'll keep things going because. People are. Having difficulty feeding their families down here, a lot of the economy still shut down so I. DO EXPECT THAT IF Things don't go well with the larger economy errands. We'll see some more people trying to. Illegally migrated T, nited states again. Thanks a lot. Hair Hairdo is general director of United, textiles of America we got them in or near I, guess his factory. Down in Honduras Eric. Thanks a lot I appreciate. Thank you. This final note on the way out today. It's a quickie because we're a little bit tight. The Treasury Department released numbers on the federal deficit for June this morning we spent eight hundred sixty four billion dollars more than we took in in a month thirty days. The policy case to be made for it of course, is that without all of that deficit spending to deal with virus related economic dislocation, things would be orders of magnitude worse right now. Are, we gotta go, but not without another nugget from that deficit report here you go the federal deficit for the first nine months of the fiscal year two point seven trillion dollars all right. We're going daily production team is bridget. Bonder Indie Corbin. Camera Haunt Horse Sharon McHenry daisy. Ben Purser I'm Kai Ryssdal. We will see you tomorrow by. This is APN.

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Mason & Ireland (HR 3)

Mason & Ireland

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Mason & Ireland (HR 3)

"Time for fast-track greg. We have a sponsor for this. You did not give me but i will read it before the end of the half hour as always we start with a ceremonial coin flip a michael justin turner. We expect we'll get a ruling on whether or not pumping that empires gonna suspend them in the next two hours heads. He gets spended for running into the tails m._l._b. Let's go call it the air they let it go because he's just in terni not a troublemaker heads or tails. Curtis tales going to let it go. Let go let me get to go first. Faust chat at it well here. We go ireland area. Boys carli lloyd the woman soccer legend yeah i said last week. I think that she should kick for the x._f._l. Well she has received need an invitation to kick in a game on thursday from an unnamed team but she has this a friendly against portugal on on thursday which conflicts which is the same as an n._f._l. Preseason game ireland it means nothing. It's just an exhibition lloyd would be the first woman to to appear on an n._f._l. Field how could she turn down this chance to make history and prove women can be n._f._l. Placekicker for a silly friendly fellas is she making a mistake and not accepting anonymous n._f._l. Teams offer to kick field goals on thursday thursday yes. She's i the best tip i ever got when i got to college that i always tell college kids when they asked me for advice is don't let school interfere with your education. I should you can when you're in college. Get an opportunity to spend one time. When i was in college i had a midterm and somebody said hey we need seat fillers at the grammys soon awesome and i said if i go to the grammys tonight and work as a seat filler. I'm gonna fail this midterm noir. I can't even show up for it because i'm not ready. What am i going to remember more. In thirty a years seat filler at the grammys or my english mid term i blew off the midterm went to the grammy's and it was a great night set next to him michael jackson with brooke shields and bubble double the bubbles the chimp said next to lionel ritchie and herbie hancock every time there was an empty seat. Get in there. Go sit there so i think carlier should've taken this once in a lifetime opportunity. Even though i know there are people that probably paid to see her play in this friendly. She doesn't pointed. I hi michael would have played in the n._f._l. Game gray by you now. I understand all that he's she's thirty seven years old right <hes>. She probably doesn't have a lot. Oughta left time left on u._s. Women's the friendly. It doesn't matter at least for your team. I look. I think you'll remember an look granted. It would mean a lot to kids. She'll only remembered more for an n._f._l. Game yes she was she would be remembered more. A bunch of kids would remember and see like oh. She kicked in an n._f._l. Although it was a preseason game but i think for her team team what she signed up for everything all about every it's i think being with means nothing with no practice no getting ready. I think she's making the right decision. Forever been a woman in an n._f._l. Game you can't turn that chance michael on the radio last week saying that will never happen. I think i think it will happen. I think for fifty yards soon u._c. Necessary roughness kerry ireland is the best looking kicker kicks nice college game. I love kathy ireland who doesn't turn and i'm with you michael. I don't know how she okay. Mic antonio brown's helmet green bentley's with the n._f._l. And the n._f._l. P._a. seemed to have come to a conclusion on sunday with the league. In the players union rejecting brown's latest i repeal attempt but now brown has announced he intends to wear a different helmet according to profootballtalk his decision will include duda custom-made model and michael and endorsement deal so after all of this drama antonio brown is going to get it paid for wearing a specific helmet. Do you think this is why he made such a big deal about about this helmet thing. Was he fishing for an endorsement deal or did he just get lucky here. I think you just got lucky. I can't imagine he was thinking he thought about this premeditatively taylor before this preseason started appealing appealing backdrop it maybe he was crazy like a fox. This is the most useless story in n._f._l. History history i tell you i can't believe people making a bill cares kinda help anywhere as far as i mean if he didn't safety approved laws if he agreed it didn't agree with the n._f._l.'s rules big deal. Yeah go play if you don't like the helmet i almost think that he was buchan for this all along that he said he'll make a big deal out of this and some sporting goods company will come up with a new helmet all buy into it. I'll get an endorsing. You'll maybe he gets one. Percent of the press like shack gets the ring doorbell. Tonio radio brown gets the new super helmet if he did that. He's more brilliant than anybody ever gave him credit for. You're listening to k s._p._n. Los angeles as is check bergman this for you. Ireland youtube especially you burgi a let me give you some names that have three things in common talent hall of fame talent in the short and career because of injuries or death gale sayers sandy koufax are vita bonus bill walton monica salish and salvador sanchez all may mexican amigos understand who salvator salvador salvador senate shares was can you please it was he was a mexican featherweight champion who was killed in a car wreck when he's about thirty twenty four years of age he he was a great great fighter teams. You could put on that list was that i miss <hes> dr patrick it draws a patch evita's right bo jackson exactly who good points though says eight names now i bring these names up in the wake of andrew luck sudden retirement due to injuries and i believe luck luck belongs in the he didn't have a long career but he showed us enough to be worthy of being in his sports hall of fame anyway club. I say luck deserves induction to the n._f._l. Hall of fame what do you boys say is he worthy of hall of fame induction after six years of play that he clearly was on pau aw or on pace to be a hall of famer but should he be in there anyway because injuries interrupted his hall of fame career greg. No absolutely not is is gale sayers in the n._f._l. Hall of fame he years ago for four and a half and he had he had a championship in any historical eight and he was the best running back at his position was and he was andrew. Luck was never the best quarterback at obvious when he talked about he was no he was brave. The brady even manuals gone no he may okay fine. He was never better than rogers. He was never better than brees and those guys have championships so no unfortunately personally he had a he was on pace absolutely on pace but on pace is not in and that's so no i cannot put them in the hall of fame. Sorry there's too many better quarterbacks that have made better. I've been thinking about this. Since you mentioned you might bring it up earlier in the show and i can't remember the last time i said this greg maybe you can. I agree with bergman. Can you cut that curtis. Please ask fame hall of fame to me. Means long long term sustained excellent just games or championship greatness. He has neither so you'll take out of the hall of fame. I i would not want to have both gale. Sayers was the best player at his position was jim brown was dad sameera greg. I think you're right yeah that i think you're right. It's ridiculous. Monica sellers she's tennis hall of fame career that was cut short because of the stabbing incident and she was never the same so she'd be in the tennis hall of fame because he didn't let me tell you this. This is a great question because luck is right on the edge. He was gonna be okay. Let's say play in so he's gonna be in home right after you go but here's the thing injuries he played sevens right right six seven. He played seven but set out an entire season. So actually we have six years of stats sex. I would not put him in like if mike trout retired today you would. I bet he was hands down the best player but this guy's okay. He's a tough four quarterback when he was healthy right right andrew luck. He's is at the top four hall of fame. No but gale sayers was one of the best running backs every was the best he his his career was cut short because of injuries. They say you know what he's so good. We're gonna put him in any way. Great bill walton he he's in a holiday. He didn't have a long career because orissa basketball famous for what you holiday inn pro. He was one of the great college. The question yeah yet is a bonus in the hall of fame. He's in the hall of fame because mostly because of his tray and he had a short short n._b._a. Career but of course yes. He did some good stuff on international so this president has been set. I'll tell you louis i would put him in because he has he was a hall of fame talent his career with the real because of injury the only thing keeping him out if you'd only played three years but same thing hall of fame talent career cut short because of injury years can you tell gail says anymore like four and a half. Can you tell that soon as shorter span of guys a hall of famer i mean i just think it's hard. Would you put a bo jackson hall of fame talent but he was his career was cut short baseball football football because baseball is more less tolerant nut not not a large enough football now wow how you saw him with the raiders yeah. He was unbelievable. He we'd never seen it running back like him yeah but he just he didn't keep it up because he got hurt yeah. I think that's part of a part. Would it be an hall of famer is your availability. I'm with bergman. He's out fast chack. He's out idiots all right. I think you're right. <hes> our friend tom. Ho far has a column up on the times website right. Now that includes an interview with matt scourging who is a friend of this show and the play by play announcer for sunday night baseball whole whole farce asked vest scourging what changes he would install if he to make baseball more watchable. One of his suggestion sounds radical but i have to doing mitt i would seriously think about doing this. Here's what vest gurjin said quote. John smoltz has pushed this and it reminds me how much i loved growing up as a fantasy oakland a.'s and how we had that eighty one season divided into two parts because of a strike if the dodgers don't win the first half they don't go to the playoffs that year split the season in two and a team like baltimore wouldn't have to punt six months of the season it would add a lot of intrigue and make baseball relative in cities now like kansas city pittsburgh miami or detroit. Those are big markets where the game has has zero pulse so in other words michael. You play the first half leading up to the all star break. If you win the first half you're guaranteed a spot in the playoffs then after the all star break everybody zero and zero and we're playing the second half then the first half winner plays the second half winner in the playoffs and that means all the bad teams in in the middle of july aren't bad anymore. They get new hope. Would you consider it well. You don't ask me that. I think is a brilliant idea but you gotta ask the stupid. Baseball purists like so. You're very versed anything radical that israel but like would you do. I understand it's a long season but would you do that in basketball. When you have i would consider it. Would you consider you would actually have a team so forty one games into the season alright. Let's start all over yeah. No yeah if you know if you win the first half yeah you're in the i get it but then the second half what if you're sucking second half you're still in then you would then you get exposed. It'll keep the interest going right more interest in in the greg. If you're a team that goes ten in thirty two in the first half. You still got hope you get you get a reset and maybe you make a trade at the all star break so yeah it would give but it would give every team that stinks new life and i it would get rid of tanking in basketball especially correct but in baseball i mean this was such a long season. So is after eighty one games you you you say okay. Let's say how many teams make the the playoffs in baseball <hes> foreign each so you say well they have the while khartoum yeah but so you say okay we'll take the teams of the two best records during the postseason and then you reset it and then you say the teams are the best records you play the teams with the two best records in the first staff and that's how you get a chance league champion is look at the dodgers last year and they were terrible ruble at the beginning of the year but at the end of the year that they'd be in right they they had to push forward the place still more than on like just because you start off to hear when he says kansas city pittsburgh miami and detroit they were all out by june one yeah you know they've had like three months and now the next next month four months of just no hope. I mean watching those games anyway baltimore games but wait a minute. What if they got. They did some things the all star break and they get new hope and they maybe they got the you know. The hottest team is since the all-star break in baseball <hes> the mets. It's the washington nationals yeah. They're really really good so i will be mad if they're not in the playoffs because they've been the best team since he and that's the other thing this does if you get a team that catches fire after the all star break the way things are for now they may not even be in the postseason washington might not make it but washington would make under this format should have played better than the year i i mean. I'm not i'm not in it was shocking. I know shocking. I'm greg was around in nineteen forty-six. Nobody's integration yeah all right. Yeah that's ridiculous. How about what do you mean lights race boston. That's ridiculous. That's what john john says this greg. I think you're right. The fast track is brought to you by dr grant stevens. Get your body back on track fast. 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If the ball where it goes and finds the hall nissan sonesta developed this and try to put it on the market for all right listening somebody who works at nissan get a hold of me twitter at l._a. Ireland if i use mucis ball in my sunday group it will drive those guys crazed all the pro pilot golf ball the pro golf ball and he's that was not tell anybody i'll. I'll let him know unlike the fourth all what is so of skewered p._g._a. Golfer like one hundred ninetieth when he was the snuggle companies in his bag. Got greedy used one of the things that we pay for like we we have. We have a bunch of like side bets. Going one of the things we pay for is what we call poli. If you make kaput longer than a poll greens are hard to of course i play it so if you make longer in an eight foot but you get a dollar imagine i would get like eighteen gene police short of the task pro pilot if it's not like insanely expensive offensive. I'm gonna do it. That's chat. That's awesome all right michael. Despite being just six miles living six miles from from their home stadium ninety nine year old pirates fan catherine kyle had never seen the pirates play live wow that is until last saturday the day when her family surprised her with a trip to the ballpark for her upcoming one hundredth birthday nearly her whole family showed up sixteen children children grandchildren and great grandchildren went to saturday night's game against the reds at p._n._c. park. The pirates killed the reds through. They beat them sixteen to one. She described this as a bucket list item for her. It got me to thinking. Do you have a bucket list sports experience orient that you haven't done yet. You've done so much. You played overseas. You've played in the n._b._a. Finals you've been to a lot of big event. Is there anything in sports. You have not done that you would still love to do of course like what's at the top of that list same as yours which is play gaster gusta. Yeah masan claes should be able to make that that happened. I told him that but i got a fixed for some when i do get a fix. I'm gonna ask clay to try to pull in that favor for us but i would love to play gusto even to see the course right. He says he he got the player. He said he said that even the one hundred i think he did. I think he shot in the tournament coming up next he said even the grasses this every blade is like the same. Same length couldn't believe how pristine it was greg. What is at the top of your bucket list sporting events that you have yet to attend and but you would love to attend before you die see i've been to an n._b._a. Finals game. I've been to an n._h._l. Finals game. I've been to a world series game seven final gate and i've into an n._c._a. Football final game so there's none of the finals game. I never been to the super bowl but those are supposed to be really boring. I have yeah they're very corporate. I think would want either you know. May i be a ballboy for either. A world series game or for a basketball game at a finals. I have not been to the kentucky derby or the the indy five time derby good oh you i would like to one of those things but i think trudell in the last five years has got me hooked on premier league soccer so i'd love to go to the manchester united home game or what they call the darby game between manchester city you mentioned i think those premier league games really fun. I'd put that onto michael of europe into wimbledon. Embolden never been to wimbledon lisa's going next year in twenty twenty. She's going seven this year. She's gonna win this. You're gonna sit in the royal box next to them. Processes should tell her watch suits roots. Maybe megan markle. We'll give her a free seat. Girls trip with him with him <hes> yeah they would love michael. Why whose whose idea was he thinks that it's good to name your team after a fire you know what a definition of a pirate is a person who attacks and robs ships at sea a robber or plunderer yeah well. That's good enough. We still heavily and around greg but we used to have the autumn. Wind is a raider air which complement which basically is john f- ascended the old voice of n._f._l. Films and he he that's what he does. We're glorifying being a fief yeah one hundred percent the nextel still n._b._a. Expansion team associate can't city hera adam silver. Let me introduce you to kansas city thieves. I don't think that's gonna fly fast. Chat a <hes> all right lets you mike ireland the nets the brooklyn nets soul a couple of weeks ago for a record two point three five five billion dollars alibaba race of zai yet tie tie. I think tha ey auditor silent but even better me now. Can you list the next four highest sale prices for a sports team. One is an n._f._l. Team the others are in baseball and one in the n._b._a. The one in the n._b._a. is the clippers with st bomber right right. Two point two billion okay not the clippers number five real at to put two hundred knicks worth more than the clippers <music> talking about the last storm assails that sold the i'll cabot the rockets with tillman for two point two billion third-highest team ever sold so so far record who are the other three teams ones in wins in n._f._l. Other two teams that has <hes> just <hes> you know let in the top five highest. The price team sold okay so when's an n._f._l. And one is the n._f._l. One's a baseball team. Okay <hes> what n._f._l. Team has sold old recently. I mean the rams. Were seoul yeah wherever they were jacksonville. Was that the most no no no. It's the carolina carolina panthers who point to the second highest temper who used to be part of the steelers ownership group all right so there's a for over two billion dollars and there's what baseball team has been sold recently and it would probably have to be a pretty good sized team. The cubs didn't sell the white sox didn't mets didn't in sell the way the mets. Did that was wilpon. Did he sell or did he was because he had all his money with with bernie madoff i can't but i don't think it's not the mets as it. Michael guys give up american league or national league national west coast no he doesn't have any more than the padres. It's is it the giants give up. It's not the giant guess giants greg you give up yeah. I'm not sure who they learn the marlins who sold for two point one five billion dollars of epeli before for marlin. So is the jeeter's team the dodgers our so oh my income the average average value of an n._b._a. Team is now one point nine billion so you know how much the lakers were valued at. When the doctor bus bought the lakers the kings the forum and and pickfair on a ranch in wyoming four seven million dollars paid sixty seven was the lakers valuation in that transaction in that financial package. What do you think it was it higher or lower than the sixty. Seven lower city said sixty seven was the total for off all all his properties <hes> right so you're asking me. What was the value of the lakers in that package so you see the lakers is the most valuable thing in there. The kings weren't worth much pickfair was probably worth three million. The forum was probably worth five million. I'll say the lakers were valued at forty eight million greg yeah. I think it's gonna be lower. Jose thirty five live in that financial package the lake evaluation at that time and dr bus bought the team which is now valued around what three billion dollars dallas fourbillion dr bus basically paid twenty million for the legality such a smart now use the opposite of us were dope is and he's super smart about that appreciation from until four billion now unbelievable all right last one michael last week. You asked a question question in fast track if we could only pick one of these things in our hotel room what would we rather have air conditioning or internet rights when we pick you and i picked internet aww air conditioning all right so in honor of that greg you can play curtis's in today for jake courtesy. You can play and michael you can play. I have a game. This game is called called. Pick one. You can have one of these things but not both you have to pick one. There's really no wrong answers just which one you would prefer all right gregg while flying. You're on a commercial flight for one year. You can have free first class upgrades. It's for the entire year. Wherever you fly or no delays ever for an entire year your all of your flights would be exactly on time twenty taken. That doesn't mean that they're always delayed. No we never have a delay fines on your first class every singleton curtis wet. How about you. I experienced a delay most recently in that really sucked because like eight hours. I think i picked michael. How about you. You fly commercially more than anybody here. Will you asking to control of god so i'm gonna take the first class baby i i think i classes the play because you could still get. I guess upgrades and get lucky and have all your flights beyond on-time exactly and i need the legroom anyway. Nobody sat for eight hours curtis so that's rating yeah all right. Here's the number two at the movies curtis for one year. You get unlimited free movie tickets so you can go to any movie you went never have to pay to get in or unlimited. Free free concessions whenever you go to the snack bar. You get whatever you want for free. Which one are you taking movie tickets because i may or may not bring my own stuff with me michael. How about you tickets because i sneak my own snacks in greg yeah. It's easily the tickets because yeah you're all idiots. What think about it you could you could get a movie tickets gonna cost you twenty bucks right. Just don't eat all day and you can get fifty bucks worth of free stuff and you get it for the low. It's going to the movies by yourself food but you could give the stuff you go. Pick up the food and give it to every class with the books for me and my daughter to go to the movie theater right now canot. I'd rather get it from all right next one a in your hotel room michael for twenty four hours. If you're gonna love this no towels whatsoever or no sheets whatsoever one. Oh my goodness. There's a both make my skin crawl got oh. I guess i'll take the no towels. I'll just dry off my own clothes greg uh-huh sheet. I'm going. I can bring my own towels. I'm going not not you know then no sheets fine. I'll sleep okay fine. I can sleep on the towels snow towels or no sheets and towels make do yeah. That's a hard ball. Oh yeah you and i would do was that check out to you okay to mar for one year greg. You never get sick for the entire county your three hundred sixty five days of perfect health or you never have to wait for anything for an entire year. You don't get stuck in line at a starbucks at a movie at the d._m._v. at disneyland you there are no weights. Whatever you walk up to and there is a weight you go right in so perfect health for year or no waiting for year. Which one do you want. Pick one obviously no waiting. I could get lucky and not get sick ever even though i have kids but i know i'm not waiting for anything. That would be fantastic that means driving to work. I'm not waiting in traffic. Nothing yeah. It's easy curtis no weight or great health for one year. Oh no wait for sure michael. I would take the great health because i don't mind waiting all right. I would take the rate health because health is the great variable. Everybody takes their health for granted this. When you see that story about andrew luck there's a the guy who had his whole future in front of him. He's doing really well how we've all had friends that have gone to the doctor and had been diagnosed with something that came out of completely nowhere you you eight michael. Don't have that many years left on this. We'd probably yeah you know thirty years if we're lucky if i get a one year where i have zero ailments like your hip would be cured all unite and blessed us our so. I had the flu by three weeks ago and i was out of it. I waiting doesn't bother me greg because i guess early. No waiting is very tempting. I hate waiting. It takes me forty five minutes to an hour to go sixteen miles to work every day well no. I'm not waiting in traffic any longer. Do it doesn't matter. I have to leave at six o'clock to get here. Okay last one curtis will start with you for one year free admission to any sporting event and you'll have a decent seat so any sporting event you want to attend in person. You're in for free. Pay everything else but you're in for free. The ticket costs you nothing or guaranteed zero car expenses for the entire year. Your your car breaks down. It's covered gas discovered you get in an accident covered zero car expenses for an entire year or free admission to any sporting event for year pick one. I would love free admission but if i- cargoes out once. I'm so screwed so you would take the car michael how are you. I'll take the car to leave the house enough to enjoy the sports thing craig. You're going sporting according events right no i'm not i'm going with the free car. I drive to work every day for forty five minutes to an hour yeah. If anything happens i venture taken uber to staple apl center and go every night with free gas and free wait a minute you live in los angeles dodger game angel game ram game laker game clipper game u._c._l._a. U._s._c. i anything i hate to break it c._e._o. John but i work at e._s._p._n. And i kind of go to sporting events all right. That's it for fasttrack correct. <hes> coming up next justin turner willie be suspended for bump in the empire. We'll get into that next e._s._p._n. L._a. Breaking news michael thomson justin turner has been suspended one game and fined fined for making contact with the play them fire last night. He's appealing and his suspension is being held until a hearing takes place place. Here's what happened. Padres dodgers last night. The final out justin turner got called out on strikes. Here's what it sounded like on. The padre atv network to pitch from strictly the padres fired up aw is number three and that's the end of the ball game show rob ray copeland upmeyer is hearing it from turner. Adam roberts out there getting into way. This game is over now. I predict this earlier in the show michael. I said they will take an absolutist absolutist position because turner made contact with the empire but greg i would argue and i hope this comes up in the appeal that turner where did nothing confrontational. The empire was walking out turner gotten his path. They it was almost incidental contact but baseball is so hung up on. Don't touch the empire that i don't think he's gonna win his appeal it is this is really stupid. You don't think he's gonna win the appeal. I absolutely think he's gonna win. I mean i didn't think he was going to get suspended a game so but honestly think he's once they go through it again. He appeals usually when you appeal you. It gets lessened all those things so with one game. I think it's just going to go down to justify. It's the fine michael. What do you think of this ruling. I think it's gonna stand since there's only one game the arbitrator whoever's going to say it's only one game mobile. It was four or five or something. I gotta get appealed down but i think it will stay and again the argument i made off. The top of the show was this we gotta go to computerize strike zone. They have the technology and every part now. What's the holdup. Why was why people like burgling against it. No he's not against it anymore. You want him over over a year ago nine. Greg umpire's union is gonna fight this call outs right but it would be like he'll he'll get one beep for a strike and to beat her a ball and he'll just have to do the hand signal jeff and but but now you basically have stripped him of all his power. There's a play at the plate going to review it yeah and so it. You know what what's going to be interesting in tonight. Is that the empire that turner got into this with is the third base umpire tonight and kerner plays plays third base so he's going to be standing next to this guy and they don't carry it over do they. Don't think about it the next day umpires and players think i'm pires. Here's the guy's name is rob drake. I think umpires plus a p._i. Doesn't it yup rodriguez of drake private fred carbon now <hes> and i think that the empire's field they are you cannot make contact with them but this is. I encourage everybody to watch the tape this contact it is so incidental and dave roberts comes out of the dugout right away and gets between turner in the empire. This is a fine should not be a suspension but he's not that greg. He's not gonna win the appeal. They take an absolute you had creek text our friend bill plunkett earlier and i said asked blanket if he thinks turner is gonna get suspended and he said he would be very surprised if it happened. A wealthy surprised highly unlikely welcome to surprised and unlikely. I knew it i knew knew it because these guys are so hung up on. Don't touch the empire dough techy empire. This wasn't the how the so turn a standing. There yup is walking towards him to turn like moving his way to dallas so it's a hindrance just wasn't. I don't buy just struck. Digit drake's tried to streak. I think i think the point was he had run up a._j. Pollock earlier in the inning okay so so kirby eights pitcher for the padres struck out the side. The first one was swinging the second one was a._j. Pollock looking on a pitch right on the corner and turner's was right on the corner the argument i'm making for quest ac for the computer. I strikes strikes on those both those guys still might have struck out those those pictures right on the corner but this way the justin turner has no argument. It's either in the box or it's out of the box right. You don't don't get that arguing over balls and strikes earlier in the game there was there was a spot where <hes> lower was throwing was pitching to cody bellinger and it was beautiful curveball that landed right in the middle of the zone even the box when you saw it on the screen it was right in the middle and he said nothing. He called it a ball. It was right middle to the because every every different strikes. Do you realize that the strike zone is supposed to be between your armpits and your knees the knees yeah. When is the last time a pitcher armpits. It's got called a strange so embellished is now yeah you're right. That's exactly what they've called it. It makes no sense a._o._l. Right right now. We're giving away a four pack of tickets to the big three championship on the line this sunday at staples center. You can watch m._v._p. Favorite eyeso- joe johnson and the triplets take on stephen jackson accent and the killer threes calm out a win eight seven seven seven ten e._s._p._n. Caller number seven gets a four pack of tickets to the big three championship in in l._a. This sunday at staples center tickets on sale now or catchy action live on c._b._s. too at noon on sunday mason and ireland michael information information e._s._p._n. L._a. mason and ireland michael thompson information. We're covering the breaking news at justin. Turner is just been suspended for one game by major league baseball -aseball for making contact with empire rub drake last night after the final out of the dodgers padres game drake rung up turner turner on a called strike three turner confronted him with it and they made contact. I thought the contact incidental. I predicted at the start of the show he would get suspended. <hes> <hes> it if you look at this. I don't think it's worthy of a suspension but major league baseball is very very touchy about not making any type of contact with an empire if you pass away if you walk past empire in the hallway and brush shoulders with the guy incidentally that probably gets you a game <hes> but he's going to appeal it so turn will be in the in the lineup tonight. <hes> and we'll see if the dodgers can find their offense. They've been they've been struggling. <hes> the the only sort six runs they're averaging michael six runs a game since the all-star break but the only scored six runs total against the yankees over the weekend and then lost four to three last night walker kerr bueller on the mound for the dodgers tonight in san diego right so i wanted to ask you about two things before we go to purgatory sodano and trudell coming in in about five five minutes all right so we talked about the u._s. Open last night serena williams destroying maria sharapova and i asked you the question michael. It is maria unable to perform when she's not on this drug that she was taken because center drug suspension. She's dropped eighty seventh in the world and she's been unable to go past. The quarterfinals of any grand slam did your no serena is married to an entrepreneur. Did you notice what he was wearing the stance last night and i saw i saw the face tonight in the he's wearing a sport coat greg. Did you notice what he was wearing. No i didn't keep in mind. Sharipova sat <music> out fifteen months on a drug suspension. This is the first time they had met since he was wearing a dare shirt. You know ah you know backwards day like old school. Nancy reagan's old campaign. <hes> just say no dare shirt michael. Is that a creative in funny. Jabber burs it insensitive. Do you think he hundred percent did it on purpose to make a joke out of maria being back on the court against serena deal. Do you like it or not like it. Was it online over the you know little over the top. I mean did maria even see it. I'm sure she did he was on e._s._p._n. About seventy five i see what he's wearing. I mean she she wouldn't you went back and watch sports center guests. So was this a dig maria well you know there's always been a little bit of a thing between between those two those two because each other maria makes more money endorsements than serena and serena is way better yep exactly but maria is tall blonde one russian and looks like a model serena is african american and in curvy people make maria has fifteen member ana corner cova very many tournaments but half-time endorsement as of a looks right exactly right so that that's always been. There's no tennis rivalry in the last twenty one times they play it keeps arenas in nineteen of them yeah to keep calling rivalry but it really isn't serena and a sherpa hasn't beaten serena since two thousand four when when coco goff was in diaper us oh so it's not a tennis riding on an endorsement image rivalry sort of so so serena's been was kind of poking fun at her with the uh-huh okay so here's the other thing that bad taste bad days fi. I like anybody poking the bear. I think it's good for us good for sports radio selena the back in the <hes> that umpire back in a chair in the serena match the carlos ramos zoo serena was asked about after game is that are you mad carlos. Do you have an opinion about carlos. Ramos being banned from your venus mattress and serena with a totally serious look on her face said to the reporter. I don't know who that is funny. Which is like the ultimate ultimate it really all right so the other thing michael. You and i both love pardon. The interruption with tony kornheiser and michael wilbon and kornheiser came came up with an idea on yesterday's p._t._i. And we'll bunch shot it down right away but i actually don't think it's crazy. I wanna see if you think it is okay so the colts just los angeles on saturday. They were one of the favorites one of the three favorites to win the a._f._c. It's patriots treats chiefs colts k. They were overwhelming favorites to win the a._f._c. south. They've now dropped out of that position and their wins in vegas. Their win total went from nine nine point five to six point five just with the drop of andrew luck. One guy kornheiser said think think about this for a second. Have you been following. Daniel jones the quarterback in new york giants draft yeah. He's looking good. He's been the best quarterback in football during in the preseason he something like twenty. One of twenty five looks really good. He's no interceptions and they've got this problem because ally manning. He's a hall of fame quarterback in new york and they can't interim week one for daniel drills kornheiser came up with a really interesting proposal. Colts are built to win the super bowl right now. Ally has one year left on his deal trade him to the colts where the a manning name is gold because peyton was so good in indianapolis for so long you like quarterbacks. This year's colts team gives them. You know he's got t. y. Hilton he's got good wide out. They've got good running back marlin mac. They had a good defense plays quarterback for the colt. You elevate daniel jones because there'd be we know one in front of them win win for both teams. What do you think it's intriguing. His interesting with giants be open to doing that. Given up on eli. I saw can elevate p._r. Problem they can't play daniel jones if eli there but danny jones is playing better than eli the colts have jacoby perset set who's kind of unproven but would be deal for a backup quarterback. You put ally in as the starter. You've got frank reich a former the n._f._l. Quarterback as your coach greg. What do you think of that. I think eli is terrible so this cold shouldn't even think about that so if you're the new york you absolutely make that move trade if you can you trade ally one hated the idea because he said that's not the way the n._f._l. Work well that's true but they did it with the colts did it with peyton traded him to denver just to get him out of there to make room for andrew luck. Luck is coming as a rookie right right interesting. I actually like it. It doesn't matter it's not crazy if they think that percents not the answer that can get them and lead to the play offs. It is intriguing. I think they should consider the right john nancy. Hi knicks purgatory sodano and mike trudell coming in e._s._p._n. L._a.

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Cease And Desist

Yeah, We Said It

1:10:07 hr | 2 years ago

Cease And Desist

"Hey there and welcome to another episode of yeah we said it i'm cedric danell andy has been a week since the last and messy major of twenty eighteen came to a close before we run down all the reason this usa open was indeed so messy a how you feeling this evening done now i'm pretty good pretty good where did you get into what i am a i'm tired i'm absolutely worn out on several levels i had to a take a little step away from social media the last week or so because like whether it was twitter or instagram or facebook or whatever 'em wherever it was there with the discussion of serena or the final or something related to it and i just couldn't i couldn't i can't 'em so i couldn't move on from the absolutely horrible way i was feeling if all i ever saw more or red headed west got me to that point so i had to step away i feeling better today than i was a week ago the damn sure but i yeah so i guess i don't know if there's really and green apparently davis cup semifinals took place this weekend i had no idea and i didn't watch 'em but croatia beat be united states three did to wear a charge meeting t awful so in the fifth decided rubber m and then france beat spain three to which is really three oh with spain winning two dead representing but a so i mean that happened i mentioned yeah congrats though yeah 'em got any other new 'em no not really no nothing they can't can't wait yeah all right so i guess we could jump on entity yes open a little bit 'em overall in my opinion this is the garbage i agree from the city ceremony behind closed doors to the heat to williams williams thirty being a their earliest slam meeting since the first one over twenty years ago so the empire's constantly overstepping the bounds the camera angle at on armstrong at the beginning of the tournament a the folks who only watched a handful of tennis matches all year jumping in and saying the to to was a response to what the head of french federation said about i mean just you don't trash 'em but i you know what we have to discuss it so i dunno i guess we could go with the manford 'em we did discuss furriers impending retirement 'em he was well the impending career time 'em but he was actually forced to retire midway through the second set of his first round versus rafa 'em he was never winning that match but it was unfortunate nonetheless yeah especially considering this laflin match yeah um you know but i guess we say goodbye thing i'll say it again 'em jack sock wanna match which is shocking considering his twenty eighteen single season has doubled must've yeah i didn't expect to make it out at first round never do 'em what else shopco a defeating author allah thinking by retirement 'em he was experiencing irregular heartbeat there's something to that effect it was very it was a little bit confusing and i was watching live yeah but it was it was really sad to watch you tried calling self down he tried to get through it and he just couldn't make it so he retire partway through that thirdset 'em ending up in tiers was a dennis having to you know comfort in their good friend 'em so that that kinda sucks yeah well there was it was tough to watch but he'll be he'll be here again i hope so i certainly do you have a room said this evening demonstra a which was also not much of a surprise 'em the loss again i thought okay well you know like this is gonna hurt regarding ranking but it actually did it a book griego is actually only defending second round point some last year so i didn't really he actually went up one in the ranking kevin anderson came down so so i didn't really know but he's got a lot to defend his fall so of of may be confined some similar to form good is not been that is a that was after the first time there weren't any big surprises at least in the first round where the men no 'em was a second i have read asko defeating andy murray which i don't i dunno 'em yeah a deck at the demand that the demand ashley got used the heat role for the first time lamb forgot about in a apparently darn during their heat break in the market ask will match match murray said rascal getting a legal coaching in between so that was the that was a little disappointing here that 'cause you know dirt during the heat break it's not it's not a knock will be getting coach darn it at all so i don't even know how that happened like how ended meet motor coach in the first place but so somebody wasn't doing their job yeah i mean so then like brasco of course denied it but then markedly better spoke up and he said that he was the one that wasn't there at the time in rascal is you said the asko was okay 'cause rascal say he was talking to baghdad us's coast conduct that have been there but then back that is said that he was he was indeed talking to his own coach but they weren't discussing the matt allen it's just a mess and it is a mess m a i guess what i had the going to make here's his tweets tweets about that 'em we have members in this meeting is the prize which i dunno just going yeah i would just point it very disappointing 'cause it's that didn't play very well at all and that match i was surprised the one that there's that but yeah 'cause he he just didn't get it in even you know even if he would've won that second round wasn't getting past george 'cause born was playing very well well there goes that i don't watch 'em i was hoping to see the charge this apartments in falling around but yeah 'em i dunno medvedev and they're all like around the same age right indeed i honestly don't like medvedev like old i will okay so there's a different method that was old but he's retiring pretty okay maybe i'll do this guy twenty two years old for yeah yeah you you've been doing since i retired people and then so before then but i haven't see his name and a longtime 'em i dunno yeah if you know but they're still the recipe and maybe he'll do something in do better next year yeah 'em be interesting second round match was curious defeating bear was not interesting because of the match itself but interesting because of mohammed liani who is the unpire for the match 'em at six four three oh four at their land he stepped down from the chair to have a pet talk with nick 'em those weird yeah so my question for you was not the issue lie in line is stepping out of his chair simply giving me the pep talk to begin wins or both oh no oh it's hard it's hard to tell a lot of people were 'cause i i think a lot of people had said the right thing i think it was john worked on said of he had the right intentions but he just kind of he really shouldn't have done it like he he shouldn't have gone should have gone about it like that at least i guess he could have said something he optics wise he definitely price of the season share an i guess you could have maybe said something different or had a shorter conversation with him 'cause you know he got down in it will it will rather lengthy when he was when he was speaking to him so it was kind of it it didn't look right i didn't see it as that huge of a deal like a lot of people made his name right but it just it it wasn't it definitely shouldn't have been and i said it shouldn't happen like that in i i guess i could understand how some people say coaching but i didn't i didn't look at look at it that way initially 'em i had a little bit of trouble hearing that this happened at all 'em i dunno like i can see i can see the issue with knocking see why it was 'em a bad move an overstep but i don't i just oh for some reason i couldn't make myself care that it happened i i dunno 'em but to me it seems like 'em it seemed as if maybe this is something miami had been wanting to say to nick for some time right he hadn't been afforded the opportunity so he wanted to take the monitoring courage this young player austin only had negativity thrown adam i'll be at a lot of which is no one's fault other than his himself but i i don't know it's just like when is the right time to do this they randomly in the hallway of the locker room and then you know perhaps he alienates upsets nick 'em even more because now it's not even about a match that had taken place but he just said the is it is it after nick has continued throwing imagine inevitably booze in the air bear or like should have just kept it off himself i don't like i don't know i i see i see that it's an overstep but i don't know when else he would have had this opportunity the state right if it was that important tend to say enfor like for a lot of the players like miami seemed to be more one of the more popular umpires 'em i know you were fans to so so it's kind of like i dunno i guess i probably i guess i probably would have had a bigger issue with it like had he actually been saying anything about tactics or whatever but all all he was really telling him what to like you know start giving a shit you know just like you know try out here right and he restarted to an end up winning the match my my whole thing is like a people complaining because you know liani talk to him and made him start actually playing in the match match it's just like his his taking makes them look bad makes him look bad right and when he action starts trying if the other the other guy can't beat him when he's actually kinda played in that you don't you don't you can't really blame liani because he told you know he told nick they actually start giving a damn you know he started he started giving a damn and he ended up winning the match if america beat him can't beat him when he's playing his good tendons then and i guess you probably deserved it because it was just being handed well we said it hopefully mentally a nickel in a match in miami recede no penalty he being allowed to continue officiating during the tournament 'em yeah i think they throwing one double though like the rest of it yeah i definitely nancy among others no 'em third around so all of this letter to a what turned out to be a very anticlimactic straight sets win for roger federer over nikki reopened the third round yeah yeah which i mean like i don't know why anybody who's expecting anything else a i'm pretty should we said implant but you know sago 'em and then success there about kohlschreiber 'em ghosted i stayed with this when i watched this was just like i know kohlschreiber can be a good player but like real i dunno like while i was watching the commentators were saying oh well like kohlschreiber you know he's he's german in slashes they're probably looks up to him i live and i wasn't listening to that dumb shit and i want to reach back the hell out of somebody's looking at snow band god it was laughable that shit fucking still out on that was just a that was not a good match on fascist part and then just a you know an add onto so far inability to really do something yeah it's it's it's a it's a mystery a perennial i know he came into this year saying that he wants to do better this lamb must be frustrated he made or or something in the off season i still i still think you'll figure it out but i have no idea when i mean i dunno you know we're i think we're a we've been watching tennis long enough to be used to players breaking through at the age that he is or younger so a but i mean like these days especially the men like they're not really breaking through into their like twenty six twenty seven they're like right you know they're like pushing thirty and then it's finally like oh now they can actually play up to their potential at this morning when it's really important but i will see maybe i just really don't want this i don't let next generation of players it'll be like that though i want them to do something now like i'm rolling burying baseball club yeah well no that could be a tony so maybe they'll be a waiting for all we put a big for the leave apparently but i'm hanging rackets up so they can try to make a push to do something but i don't know because you know it's not even like when you think about it's not even like that these young guys are losing to the big four times 'cause they're not even making it to them they're losing everybody else yeah just a bunch of bullshit tired of it i'm tired of men's tennis saying saying i got to the fourth round he had team defeating defeating kevin anderson shocker yeah i was i was stunned and i couldn't believe it yes ever quite possibly the best non clay match of seen him play from me i can't i can't recall another match off of clay where he played that well right 'em i know louis armstrong stadium they the players playing a little bit slower this year and he even admitted to that same that that probably helped him a little bit during the match but i mean even still that was a great win in straightsets i mean come on yeah 'em may have millman defeating so that knows larry yikes a roger has a you know and i mentioned this i tweeted about and everything roger has not played great tennis this year no be hard pressed to find someone on air actually saying that but he has not played tennis this year 'em so that was one number two he complained about the heat 'em like he doesn't you know have for five bucks sign up and titles at six and seven hammy ever it is right now a thinking oh yeah that was that was really really i don't know but you know when does he not have sort of complainer excuse after anyway 'em yeah but this is just shocking no matter what i can't emphasize enough then of all players right yeah i mean i watched it to win it was something i wasn't watching that first and then i realized oh shit like this really avenue seriously that that when that moment up to a career high number thirty seven here super cute 'em oh no we represent some losses at their cell phones matthews other than the one made the final in fifteen right yeah he's had some beer lots of the beautiful things you've not been back to the final oh that's interesting is he was running that shit like mid two thousand one pilot room yeah the most fun one oh nine then got back the final twenty fifteen in yeah it's it's it's surprises me that he hasn't won the title since two thousand eight very long time a lonely at wimbledon well not this year but 'em to quarterfinals of the notable quarterfinal was rafer defeating dumb teams seven six in the stands berry match i did not see this caliber match coming again from team 'em but he backed up the win over anderson well he did win the match but i mean that was still a really good effort it with a high quality match yeah i will admit i fell asleep during the fifth but you know i had to get up for work next morning so i can't i can't do that but greater from both players 'em yeah i don't have anything in some quarters the semi's okay so i have to take ownership of this 'em i confidently claim that russell was going to win this tournament but i did not foresee any mid tournament injuries for him so yeah he he played some billy long matches really high quality matchup against top players and that ended him up with the knee injury to retire yeah grinding out only harcourt not good for anybody know a little bit more with him so yeah super slow so imagine taking long is helping oh god damn reason at all and they were like if there were a lot of long island to like even long long oh but he retired down to say the dow fell in the semifinal 'em and then music or did what he is always good for doing making a lot around only get molly walked by one of the big three or four whatever whatever they are now 'em and then he so he lost novak is doing a sock i will buy any corey one that quarterfinal game show is but that was a terrible match i was not happy about that i'm gonna chill is no i can't stand show which i mean i like shows i like him a lot more the last couple of years and i think he would have done better than six three six four six two against novak yeah probably right but i'm just i i think my problem with chile is he's one of these late twenty due to decided the now he wanna start playing tennis i'm tired old and tired of somebody be 'em well okay and then the final 'em i mean there was no way i was watching this match after the mets the previous day so i didn't see it nope medium i watch highlights a couple of hours ago and i was if board is i expect to be with any major final involving novak joke which but not involved in denver bronco i'm glad i didn't watch especially since i left elbow 'em yeah but you know good seeing back in a major found this was only his second you know in nine years after burgess yeah well a non him to go ahead and were one and a rat novak djokovic very very very pleased with del poacher the performance this year won his first masters semi's in paris right quarter of wimbledon finals here oh yeah yeah seriously hope that riskin stay right and he can keep it up because he still has the game to to win these things i had i had a raven moment as i was doing you know of him winning australia but will see it would be nice 'em yeah that's all i got on a man yeah that's about it onto to the ladies a early rounds you had how out to connect be in the first round i did mention their previous meeting last episode which was a seven six in the third and dubai from a few years ago but what i failed to mention that connect be a made the quarterfinal after you us open last year i was seven oversight by me 'em that couple with holiday a strange you f open struggled over the years and i should have been a red flag but how came in playing so well and i dunno nonetheless a straightforward to inform and connecting yeah i didn't expect loop that match as a at number one in as de morgan one of the more consistent women on tour this year i thought she would a make a make a push airlifted around the sixteen but yeah that's two two first round losses in a row fired slam so back to back after winning their first of all what a mess even think about that jesus christ show bounce back there she'll be fine yeah i'm sure and that's the only notice the ball like really notable first round upset 'em i know like cocoa van went out if something bad crash i mean like anyway she nobody will horrible year yeah m i have venus a girl you endanger watch 'em but she came through that demands a you she took along route but you know it was still a great win high quality match 'em haney hamburgers out to boot so a but i'm a second round match 'em so no majors for this year a in terrible and all of that pretty much the not been a good year no at all french open semi's and that's it but she she won one time this year it wasn't eight yeah what does she want in international in april oh well a i've seen you have mackerel over this leading girgis that with a second round 'em let's see and then biko rolling over gafa loan but i was also second round but then she did all that only loans rollover her in the third round the pretty good third round match though shay says wimbush zone but it was pretty good i did not watch 'cause i'm glad 'em oh before we get out of the early round the core name match is going to mention her oh yeah she did go out in the first round 'em but she received eight code violation retain their top encore 'em usov summer released a statement after saying that they had removed whatever penalties she received 'em how many statements but they have released over two weeks but 'em i dunno it was a bullshit to be honest 'cause the men do this all the time do they might as well play certainly they changed their shirt so often encore wherever they want whenever they want nobody says anything about it 'em it's very odd okay what's very odd is that like bathing suits their okay but as soon as it's like a brawl in on a swim top like great my god we can't look at it it's very weird i don't sports bro yeah yeah like i don't oh sports bars covering up more than a regular bra right more in a bikini top very weird yeah 'em but she she handled it well impressed in the especially even in my somehow like managing the bring up like serena and things like that was actually worse situation you know like i thought critical amount about the staffer her anything that's right a yeah so you know hopefully there's some it opened up a little bit of discussing so that's something good that came out of a dumb ass on clients um you had carlos whereas navarro taking out the denigrates garcia and eventually the dover in consecutive mansion absolutely hilarious that match what's so funny very proud of carla very pro yeah river 'em civil cova taking out kerber dan around the world and i keep forgetting wimbledon i mean it's very forgettable yeah shane bench it off this year that she no problems on samba lanka defeating 'cause then and then a third around a yeah 'em mom juice over defeating burton be cincinnati chant third round that were seven secular bear and then well going out baffles me acting going out to the rank of sick around who then went on to say october third round in that followed the early rounds no ranko made the quarterfinals she yeah she beat me up within bond you're sober and then she was injured and lobster quarterfinal match my got her aunt's will cause she lost the osaka winning my bad sorry girl up before you went out my band that was a good a good run on my man took everything out over well 'em i don't really super duper caratto discuss williams vs williams thirty a it wasn't a third round i wasn't happy about it and i wasn't exciting no 'em although the play from serena with very exciting it was a i did not spectacular 'em i was a little worried when she rolled their raggedy ankle number two the left one is number one in the right when the number two so she wrote number two ranked the ankle number two in the second game of the match it's a it's gotta be taping they went all in a will to own sister that i couldn't 'em yeah i mean it was it was what it was and i know it's hard to be excited about a third round yeah meeting on this land the plane when i was pissed i mean it was just strange like how did sixteen seventeen how are they even in the mike how's it makes sense oh but that's whatever what 'em also little bit disappointing just for venus because she although has she had a pretty trash season am with andrew coming in like to get those two really good wins over top players only the meet up with a system that's mhm 'em oh my go into the second week you had a sinister would be seen in the fourth round and then taking out defending champion oh she got her f will seal champion well i mean that's you know that's par for the course right like ever gonna bagels in the third set blue like what the fuck is this you know lately i haven't leaner yeah not a damn thing as far as i know see chris you're like i can't remember the last time she was a final season her slammer those this year quarterfinal third round first round fourth round she's still top ten though i think what isn't saying much no you're right yeah three titles supposedly now the last one in roman may okay see i knew there was a clay quarter well then san francisco went on and beat the i can't call it defending champion she didn't wanna be call that that was so dumb the girl one last year well retarded oh my god yeah and i think she was just deflecting pressure on yeah that's that's that's what you don't be stupid and did make any sense and it didn't work either no it didn't maybe you'll learn from it should be about shall give her process she did she did make the quarterfinals especially considering made the corner especially considering how most of these these new girl google when you know when when they're slams a you know sprinkle lost in round one fm defending the parents this year move result of defending wimbledon she lost in round two after she would do but i'll come up with better wimbledon considering the fact that she's one of land before you know she's been defending this before but yeah apparently not she's very a cause there is no i guess yeah she gets on harass you could beat anybody but just don't know when that run is coming yeah definitely see that but you know process loan i think show m i think she'll continue play well for the rest of the year do well in a in asia i think so too this is by far most consistent even with two first round playoff losses oh yeah what a mess you have a marine defeating angry white plus give a in the quarterfinals this what's important and frisk if i wanna to talk bigger than her game in press before the match 'em she i think she still has a little bit too much having a whole lot that meeting between them a couple of years ago against the beer entered serena but you know she she got actually it should have been even more of a apple think to be honest but you know it was nice enough to give her a seven game yeah that it was a good by serena to a kind of gather herself a steady herself in that match to do what you need the deal and now not one gronk no yeah no nothing it was very petty they're very libra yeah he's a commentator the same throughout the match even even while clippers winning we were talking about how a she seemed to be bit a bit in a bit of a decline like what they're serving the power on her her her shop and stuff like that says she's not really hitting in many cases that she was a last year the year before and she not really hitting the ball is hard at all and it's kinda surprising me some 'cause she's somebody who's been you know healthy as far as you know for the past several seasons she hasn't been out with no injuries or anything like that so for her to be i guess losing her served a bit is kind of weird yes you get married i think she did it she to me she seems like the type of girl that was yeah up over time like oh i'm i'm great i'm done yeah in twenty sixteen where she was when she was winning and when she made her first a over slam final in than what they were last year i think she was she makes she made the number one last year eight like eight weeks or something in a scripture sheila's top seed new york last year in there with a lot of talk about her being like the future and she's gonna be somebody who could be you know consistent and keep doing this and went in and all this kind of stuff but yeah back that proved to be there on pleases hitter us life like seeing gonna get down to her i know it's frustrating world world she hasn't had a really a very good year at all this this year the quarterfinals in melbourne third round and pears fourth round wimbledon quarterfinals here in one final this year in stewart goes in april she want it but still obviously that's not a terrible year for her i mean i think we get to marsh on that final parents a couple of years ago that is she hasn't been able to replicate that in a you know a couple of quarterfinals a fourth round that that's cute oh i don't like you hear when slam me either keeping a yeah then we have you know sending those happened in straightsets 'em okay i have some know about about the final michael say a whole lot on line one m okay so i have three point about this final number one i believe that what colors ronald there was some plant and fully intentional 'em he wanted more than some type of metal or something during the trophy ceremony a he wants his name alongside history exactly what he was doing he knew there'd be an opportunity for coaching violation and he knew how things spiraled from there a he's been called much worse than the feedback on these men by somebody manta nothing in response but this time during major final involving the most polarizing and famous figure in the sport as she chased history at the tournaments that comes with most emotional baggage for her decided that this was too far and then he actually acted as a thief which is you know already a not only by stealing a game from serena stealing moments in headlines from both players oh okay number two it's not lost so let me just start with another man has more toddling i do agree with him in saying that all coaches coach from the sideline in that coaching racket of these violations of the real test but this began with him for all the media savvy and coaching expertise he claims to have he should've known that because all eyes will be on serena they also be on him he speaks of serena's ability to problem solve and how much he trust her but all all of that somehow disappeared on this day what occurs between he and serena from here is their business but i will not be forgetting this or how he's in adequately prepared serena four consecutive major final this year anytime soon last night in their store i love serena i love naomi they both deserved better a the the way serena handled the trophy ceremony in the way they both handled the precedent everything after what's 'perfect branch yeah i'm i'm comforted by the fact the sale both have more opportunities on the biggest stages in this sport in the future 'em and hopefully without some white man skipping in in fucking it all up and that's all i have to say yeah that whole that entire situation was incomplete in total mess it all it all it all starts what patrick wave a you know i guess this forward motion electronic over the go to the net whenever he would do i don't know why he thought he should do that like she never had to figure these things out before like he's ever needed to try to give her any kind of collusion before on why he picked this match to do that so yeah i'm not even i'm not even gonna charlotte which i get inside his head so it is it's far too much for me and then you get so that's a that's a violation of coaching thing in serena williams will see that blew away romero because she convenient to are two of the only players when the tour who don't use the encore coach and even one of regulatory like when they when they're allowed to i've seen being called david down one number like two years ago or three in serena's never called patch down though what she calls i and i tweeted about this i said there was one time that i saw serena used the encore coaching it would back in two thousand seven when they first start in it she was in miami and she put venus down as a coach and she called her own court and they didn't even talk about enough at one time that's eleven insanity so she you know she just when they make clear she's wanna make it clear to the unpire everybody that she does not need coaches she did not get coach and she plays where she does not need the jeep went so she went about what about her business after that i will gladly handled that and then come from the second violation breaking a racket i think it's i think it's bullshit that they give players violations were breaking a racket anyway but man that's i mean that's the that's everybody that's a fair everybody knows about the recordbreaking whatever fine whatever and since that was like my allegiance you get the point penalty and i don't think serena i don't think serena like completely like realized that that coaching violation blue baritone day in my he wasn't he wasn't like rescinding met or anything like that right so she lost went there that i guess that you know that that's a drop a little bit you know losing a point slam final i understand but you know moving on see bill talking to him about whatever the you know about her dream agreement there'd be no she she wasn't apology because he wished he cheated no cheaters she felt she told him to apologize that she she one thing i heard her say what's making announcement that she didn't get coaching in i think i really think she thinking about her image and how she look towards the fans in the stadium in also to her opponent she doesn't want everybody to think that she's out here time itchy when she couldn't let it go and then we get to the thief comment an i heard i heard it you know you hear columba fee she walked into the chair i laughed at it as it was hilarious in ten she gets docked for a over the verbal abuse or whatever and that that blew my mind i couldn't believe because i you know i noticed the next penalty is a game penalty and it's like hold on like it's really about the give her a game penalty in a slam final at this stage of the match like he gave her ankle and you put osaka one game in the championship that it was completely uncalled for and i think most most people in tennis agreed that it was completely uncalled for because in most cases for any kind of by lesion other in the the racket abused you get a thaw warning beforehand even with the coach amalgamation of empire will say something like a west or you're coach no one is you know next time you know you'll you'll get a penalty whatever and you know they're the players constantly going at be unpire let them know look if you keep it up it's gonna be a coat none of that none of that took place in the final he just jump straight into the violation in the game penalty is the one that really it really it really set it often at a new things new thing wouldn't get better after that in some cases it's still it's still hard it's still hard process when you think about because it just doesn't make it doesn't really make any sense that he would just dive straight incident like that but then when you when you when you sit back and you really look at it he's gotta remember it serena williams dream of this held to a higher standard than anybody else in ten anybody else and i i don't want anybody to try to argue with you about that because everything she does under a microscope and that's why when new going looking at it i don't think it's i look at it as a woman thing just a woman thing i look at look at it as a way of saying because typically if with another woman i don't think it would have gone the same way at all the men were not born in what but serena williams san carlos ramos felt the need to get inserted himself into into the situation to to make a making example and it just wasn't it wasn't it wasn't the right thing if they don't then you get all these reports coming out something about oh he's he's okay and he's you know back in court on powering it's like the man within no danger like were you talking about is there if he ever sees me on the street but other than that it really it really blew my mind but like a bunch of other things in tennis something something is bound to change because serena williams is apparently the martyr change every and i'm sick of it and i know she's sick of it but i guess the next person won't have to deal with it so i guess that's good but at the same time it's just i just it's ridiculous this shit this all this stuff that always go down is always in new york at her quote unquote home slash time like the the aforementioned capriati like i mean come on it's it's always the mistreatment is always in new york it's baffling and that's why and that's why when she said you know every time she comes here it's always something and you got people saying oh you know you know you've won this six times is not every time of course in that every time we know it's not literally every single time but every time that it does happen if here in in in huge matches so of course it feels like if every time she comes here that two thousand four mashed with the quarterfinals in two thousand nine the mysterious footfall they didn't happen with the semi upon the the point penalty in two thousand eleven that with the championship match like it's it's always the later rounds always a huge match where it's happening so of course she feels like it it it happens all the time and i wouldn't do it like that ball was not coming back in two thousand eleven like no it wasn't soldier was not getting the ball back like come on in that this thing in even then i figured they will play a lead instead of the point penalty in that match right there like yeah it was it was it was a lot especially considering 'cause the chair that they will even at the rapidly as she umpired suing the first round in paris in two thousand twelve the following year in whereas nano was doing a bunch of cars like bunch of screaming and yelling like i would guess what's cramping looking at match and they kept playing appoints replaying points replaying point she wasn't getting point penalty that all in that match like you should have been they just replaying point over and over again so that that right there just that blast me back to the two thousand eleven final and it just like with with a lot but it's always something in she always find a way to come out on top of it all documented but it certainly won't be here for very much longer yeah we've got some maybe two two more years left or maybe a m i'm just glad she a you know issues except on her plate or whatever and she said like maybe i'll be back next year i was so glad when she said that yup 'em i want them to shake remember i want i just want apologies i don't know though a statement saying i want like actual formal apology one from carlos ramos i want opening day like i was literally like last weekend like i would just sitting there on sunday like thinking about all the ways that i don't wanna get usa my money anymore like like china figure out how could still play competitive attendance and not give usa money i just it it really are all of the the whole situation having really really in a different state of mind and i just i dunno and then i think about like how she you know they're they're the ones that gave her the biggest fine in the history of the sport mhm like i mean i'm tired at one point i thought to myself they should've her venus's just a did a final bow i between seventeen australian in instructed these 'cause i'm i'm tired tired of this shit but you know yeah but 'em congratulated naomi osaka absolutely congratu play she played a very she played a very good match she did she held her nerves which surprised me a lot she's doing very good on her mental game that girl handled their season but it will it will hurt her a her two weeks is very very impressive now i'm very proud of her an i see i see huge things for her future huge things and she's still so respectful like she's not getting the big hit about these wins over serena these titles anything like that she's just like she's like i'm here and i'm winning but these is still alleging i dunno like she's just really great i love you in the the the media they keep asking about you know what she thinks of serena might i they they want her perception of storing it'd be changed so so badly but she keeps telling like i don't know she she doesn't feel any type of way against about serena you know she'd been assuming the band her entire life she had a woman operate in the during the trophy presentation she i'm glad i'm glad she thought everybody was doing it said to her 'em while they were on stage and odor in the mid in the middle of going up because i knew i knew naomi thought that the crowd with boeing her when he started getting really when he's gotta give lougee pulled her visor down over top of her base i started feeling terrible like i want wanna stop even though i knew what they were going for so i'm i'm glad a summer so what she said to work if they made her you could tell it made her feel a lot better in the natural reason asian was as one for the history books but i will say with the mess yeah ever cried seriously everybody's crying sorrento's crying naomi's crying the crowd will boom when everybody a it was a lot seriously hopefully is asian that's wing as drama free if there any show though i'm gonna say high wind watching oh please i do want her play i just don't know if i'll be watch i definitely want her to play those scenes imagine i'm like the have title this year that would be yes so i wanna trophy i want more points because i want a better seeding her in australia yeah yeah yeah i want her to i i want her to play in snatched in points up for real let's see what she does okay i'm gonna look at of course singles hurry in see he's achieved that oh she's she's still qualify friday and saturday and shit yeah well that's a cute a mazing let's let's get the game tying this year and she gives nets all the time girl at one time it would be great closely will see if she plays i saw something about some sort of exhibition butterbean yeah they they did something this weekend i'm avoiding i just found out about it today and make quite today endo venus is a bean definitely she's playing i think vintage plane move on she took a wildcard in this for her this is like a last ditch effort to save her ranking because go singapore points about fall over and she's going to plummet wow i tell her when she better go ahead and do that yeah she better because i i'm pretty sure like as it stands right now once those points fall off i think she'll be like out of the top fifty good guy man who's trying to climb back on that yeah real oh yes you do she normally when she does play in the fall she normally played pretty well hopefully you can happen at all with a little bit of better yeah then hopefully she get a chicken play it did you hire they still do that right they do maybe she could go there and snacks some points when those girls i i just wanna title for her to she'd been china get title number was fifty four yes but too damn years oh my goodness let her last titled in twenty sixteen i get so sick when i think about it so i'm just gonna not gonna have anything else on a trashing metal tournament no one more congratulations spinning wheel soccer of course congratulations to joke of as i guess i'm hearing that osaka is signing a huge huge deal with the dita's apparently biggest they've ever given to a female athlete so shuttled to her but i think she might be making the money that she said i mean she goes you know we marketable asian asian tenant they throw they they bring the throw everything at her oh yeah in the olympics in tokyo to not to be famous according to what i read something that she had a she had because she has citizenship i guess with a you know a america in japan and apparently in japan like she had the choose one or something like that but i also read that they never really enforce that like to make the money pit one on one citizenship so i guess will say 'cause i guess people were worried about like you know whether not she'll play for tokyo japan in tokyo but yeah i guess we'll see i don't see cheese i don't see her switching to america at all but i mean if she did the way i would stand it would just oh whole different level of dance at that point like real could literally forget about all the other american girl named william like wow she better not cause that oh i'll be super reckless man if sometimes i definitely wish i definitely wishy with playing for america what you at the same time she if she was she might not be where she is right now because officer she's only twenty she just won her first major jer these american girls they they struggle you know sloan one lane last year but she's like phones what's funny or now something like that really oh yeah something like that twenty four twentyfive oh i don't know maybe bob i think she might be a year younger than me but so yeah these twentyfive march of nineteen yeah yeah she was playing for america's she you know she might be where she is right now so very true but i think i think is very smart on them to japan and i see you're sticking with it at least for a while yeah well i guess we can move onto the power ranking a i'm gonna let you go first into the members first sure okay number one i have joke which of course because he just won a new york then number two i have del poacher for making the final number three i have team because he played very well in new york in surpri the hell out of me i didn't see him doing that well on the hardwood at all and i think that i think that result will a terrible well for him into the into the ball i think you'll feel really good about performing that well when the records and i think he'll do he'll do good for the rest of the year he's currently in saint petersburg he's only top ten player player playing this week you know surprise browse a number four i be should corey or semi final run in we brought the hit the asian swing so i think he'll pick that you know a little bit of momentum from at number five have george because he made the rounds sixteen for the first time in this lame he's playing very well he just one he just won the the david qatar like you mentioned for his for croatia in the five federal pretty awful and i think hill a healthy confidence from the davis cup win and also from his fourth round in new york and i think he'll do well in the fall is well i have circumvention number one for the same reason i am deltona number two for the same and at three actually have rafa 'em just because you know he runs toronto and barring injury probably would've won new york 'em an up until the knee injury he looked good i mean human beings and believe they didn't have try all so yeah i mean hey final thing back so then i have to say i was just gonna say upper rafa the reason i didn't put him in at all is because i think that knee injury is going to ruin the rest of the season i think i i'm pretty sure he'll he'll try to play but i think he'll end up sitting out the most of the year or at least trying to defend his points but not doing very well i hope i'm wrong but i don't think i have a i have team at number four with a great run then he had and then i had needs to korea five for the same reasons you put in cool no the women osaka number one for her great run in new york only dropping one set in route to the title a story in at number two for that final of course 'em didn't end the way we like like it too but you know i think she's a she's on her way much she says she go just getting started on number three i've flown for that quarterfinal run 'cause you know to be honest i wasn't a hunter position where she make it there but she played well they will the to to make it there defending a good bit of those points and i think show on going to the hawk worth i think she'll do pretty well in the fall to a madison keys because she's her years been a little weird i think semifinals in paris semifinals here in new york but she hasn't been back to a final cynthia's open last year so i i think i think she'll do better in the bowl you know as long as she's still healthy but at the same time i could be very wrong because she kinda seems the only duo when lindsey whether inland there's not gonna be weathering the hall oh logan so what's but that it is it just like ma'am i think it's it's like a scooter libby is not really her coach anymore she's more of a consultant now i guess because she lindsey doesn't wanna be called a fulltime coach because you know she has for kids and she works at tennis channel and stuff like that she can't she can't travel the world with you know madison aware of fulltime coach waco should right but 'em so she works with her i guess when she when she can like when she available i guess like when she's the one fight for tennessee and when stuff like that but 'em yeah i don't know they're they're really good pair i wished they could work together you know all the time but i definitely respect lindsay's decisions in a number five i have hallett surprisingly even though she locked in round one because she's still were number one in she's been riding that number one ranking with some pretty good confidence throughout the years he's been in like six finals thank you six final three title this year you know she she i think she did a i think she'll do good in the ball yeah i mean clearly maller tournaments less pressure nobody's taking number one from room to room and say yeah once again are one into the same i had one o'clock at one in three not to actually half stove at three a she had some pretty good wins including over in a blank blank sloan stevens 'em and then i have keys that for agreed it it's been an audio offer but you know they get back to the semi's would be good right i did not i quite enjoy the way she performed in that semifinal let's play well at his core but a meeting to get there and then i actually have none of that five because you know we mentioned they're making accorded is actually it's a pretty good effort board game this is everyday climbing so wasn't my powering and i just looked at something i'm pretty sure we've been saying how lost to slam first round this year she we only lost one with the new york she lost in the third round at wimbledon i did they thought it was the first round for a while but i looked at it and she law i'm pretty sure love this shays way in the third round where a the fact that was believable says everything we need to say yeah anyway m okay so i guess it's time to mention are social media presence is a follow us on twitter at hold you pony 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REShow: Don Van Natta. Hour 3 (09-19-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Don Van Natta. Hour 3 (09-19-19)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast. One sports net production available on Apple podcast and podcast one in sports. A trade can make or break your not a good one can mean a championship a bad one can set your franchise back for years and it is no different when it comes to selling trading in your car you need to make good choices and with truecar. You've got a star on your roster. Just go to truecar simply. Enter your license plate number and watch how your car's details pop up then answer. A few questions got a sports sports package or a moon roof watches they bump up your car's value in real time high mileage well. You already knew that was gonna cost you but now you know how much danger while it so you can strategize your next move. Once you're finished. 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Football looks to keep the momentum rolling the rams squashed all talk revenge last week as they dominated a breeze `less saints saints team on their way to a fast to anno- start once again. Make sure you go to bed decide dot com and use Promo Code D. R. WanNa one first time users get one hundred percent bonus bonus on their first deposit. That's Betty Dot Com Promo Code. Dr One one remember it's only a game until you bet it at the SL hour number three of the shows on the air boy. We have some amazing conversations already in the archive. If you will go check it out on our APP APPLE APP store Google play at the link at the top the twitter handle you can also vote in our poll question which will review in a second so we had Torrey Smith fresh off of the football field after after an eight year career that he called quits for what a great conversation with him talking about his former teammate Cam Newton who will hear more about in a second his coaches not accepting accepting questions about cameron his foot right now. Wait till you hear about the press conference Ron Rivera had probably during the chat. We had Torrey Smith Yeah who pounded the table for his quarterback. Can you say well. He's just teammate a cam but I mean is no reason now being out of a career to basically say Paul Finebaum was anywhere remotely close to being correct about saying that Cam Newton doesn't care about care other people just cares about himself which he said oddly enough in response to the fact that Cam is significant has is a potentially significant injury. I think he lost his mind for a second yesterday. and Jane Skinner Goodell was on the show she she is a CO executive producer of an amazing documentary can catch on NFL network tomorrow at three eastern time about a quartet of matriarchs in the NFL called a lifetime of Sunday's she also chimed in on on our issue with our fantasy football team right now Chris and in case you missed it we asked her should we trade Patrick Mahomes for Deshaun Watson exerts as has been offered by senior fantasy football analyst from the NFL network Michael Bianco not only did I place that in front of her for review and suggestion also told her it was for our fantasy team name man spread centerpiece great Dave Hey we I mean we just went all out there. She said reject that a trade and used my my own words to support it based in Fabiano being here in studio of course she came prepared so if you missed that will posted also on our twitter feed and there's Dave Brown. I've never heard the story about how Dave Brown was selected in the the giant supplemental draft of Nineteen Ninety two. He essentially said the giants went to his parents months before and said to him. Hey Mr Mrs Brown. We want your kid. He's from New Jersey the replay in Jersey we want them. There's no way we'd get them if we just waited for the ninety three draft so we need them in the ninety two supplemental draft so can you make sure he doesn't stay for his fifth year and Duke. I mean I'm telling that happen happened. I heard that on Mike say what and then the team at the giants eventually outfoxed or through the browns then manipulating what happened knowing that the the giants were a possibility already were the giants told them that they want him told the Cleveland Browns who drafted in front of the giants in that supplemental draft Kinda now don't take us because we're going to be too expensive price too high and the coach of the browns the time was bill belichick who worked out wow and then of course he said that he's been in contact with Daniel Jones and he thinks Daniel Jones is going to do very well and at and to drown out all the noise of of the giants fan base and the local media. That's been howling about the pick just like they did about Dave Brown from Duke. It's the same situation it's kind of crazy. Crazy 'cause Phil Simms was the guy he's replacing and Daniel. Jones is replacing another super bowl champion quarterback as one of the face of the franchise in all time great meal I manning it's all on our APP again apple APP store Google play at the link at the top of our twitter handle our poll question before we get to a news update and then Don van Natta of ESPN the senior investigative reporter for ESPN's got a great new docu series called backstory. We'll talk about that in the future of the NFL in terms of the collective bargaining agreement all the stuff yup that's off to the side right now but maybe he's going to play into the playing seasons of the future he'll join us here in a second in our poll question Chris Brockman will what do you have over there. So today's the twenty nine th anniversary of Goodfellas release one of our favorites who've been talking about it. What's the Best Martin Scorsese movie goodfellas sixty four percent running away with the departed twenty four percent from taxi driver now percents seven percent raging bull by it's an outrage and I say this knowing my the listeners viewers of the show much I adore them? I it's just an absolute outrage. The departed has a great cast. It's a great movie. It is one of the quintessential opposite type work of of Scorsese but and no way despite the incredible performances of Jack Nicholson and Leonardo DiCaprio and Matt Damon and Mark Wahlberg and Alec Baldwin and Martin Martin Sheen and Vera Formiga and so on and so forth under no way shape and form is it in the same area code as raging bull ah no way shape or form a taxi driver with Deniro and Albert Brooks by the way and Civil Shepherd Bird Okay and Jodie foster and Harvey Keitel there is no way Peter Boyle departed bright Peter Boyle. There's no way in the departed should be anywhere near five times the percentage of these movies and in this vote I cannot cannot goodfellas I would say is the best I would argue that but it's it's one B and one C r taxi driver and raging bull. Have you seen King of comedy at Chris No matter how many times I implore you to see it is here's what you should do. You should definitely everyone out there before we get your news update everyone out. There should see it before you see the new judge Moore Yeah Okay because from what I could see in the in the in the trailer for the joker movie movie is the joker is plays a gets shot at standup comedy on a late night show and the late night host is played by Hi de Niro and this is absolutely a wink and a nod to a mentally disturbed stand up comic getting a shot on a late night show Joe and the joker in the role of Rupert Pumpkin Aka Robert Deniro from this film. It is a wink and a nod to King of comedy. You should see it before you see the joker which I'm sure you will see okay I will do that. You want to get your news. Use looks like you're champing at the bit to get Your News Update Yeah Don van Natta. Don't hit it live or rock men with the news brought to you by the Honda Aww court whether you're headed to the stadium and just run out for snacks the accord gets you there in comfort and style. I don't mean to eat much more of your time up. We don't need you to go down a raging bollworm. Oh go for I just updating on a drew brees in port saying debris had his thumb surgery today when perfect expected to remain in the L. A. Area to Rehab and work for the next few days original timeframe six weeks that remains within reach and drew brees is not placed on the injured reserve. West Breeze did instagram out an image. Today looks like it's foot step one complete successful surgery. This is my attempt at giving everybody a thumbs up speedy recovery and you know my favorite social media post of the day yesterday was was somebody reporting that in the open practice and the media portion of the practice for the saints yesterday Teddy Bridgewater was with the ones and Tastes Hill was with the toot ion talented folks had had Sean Payton has yet to now sean paying messing with everybody. Let the media see Teddy with the ones tatum with the twos tastes him hill. Whatever the maximum number of snaps he's ever had quarterback for the saints triple it? That's what you're going to see against the seahawks at that's my prediction. Everybody's focusing on the wrong guy whether whether he can get through the next six weeks tastes him hill. You'RE GONNA see a ton of Ham. That's going to be a fun game to the point where the point where how about this is a prediction. He will be a red hot waiver wire pickup in fantasy next year next next next week four one. That's how much we're going to see from Tastes Hill. We don't need him. We have patrick the high understand that we're not trading. Maybe we should pick him up. Just to start trolling on people okay so speaking of teams quarterback issues Cam Newton again end did not practice today in Carolina so it's trending towards Kyle Allen here Ron Rivera met the media today at a very short a press conference a less than three minutes and here's how it ended. Would you think him would travel in either event or would would that be decided to. We'll see you guys want to watch sit there and watch so you'll have to wait and see. I'm not GonNa talk about it anymore. Guy's I mean let's talk about Arizona's I mean I haven't really talked about Arizona. You know so it'd be good to answer those kinds of questions. Can I know it's about Cam but that's you know the we will anymore until tomorrow so let's just let's talk about Arizona if not there's no reason for me to stand here before the opener deer hunters company WHO's GonNa be ready to go. Were you going to that level now. Just ask you questions about some of the do this guy. I told you know anything until the MAR- golly he walks out and again. I have not seen this video that happened. During the Torrey Smith Conversation I think we should give the member of the Panthers Media Staff the Mark Dalton Award with the key Mars who's one of my favorite people in in in all of sports. Pr The Great Sports PR the Sports Media Relations Honcho. If you will of the Arizona cardinals he was the one who said Matt liner will be next. Thanks coach Matt liner will be next at the end of the famed if you want to crown him crown their ass the bears are we thought they were it took the fail right through that rant Dan Danny Green just to describe for the radio audience there was a member of the panthers or staff by the door. Thinking Anjapara guy did look like a young guy who apparently I guess that door is locked apparently needed to 'tis Tis to swipe fob to open the door up notice that the coach wasn't fact ending his press conference prematurely and was Johnny on the spot Takata's keycard the car has honestly how watch worse would it have been if he went to the door and how much worse could it would have been a guys. I told you not answering can't hope what how many more questions on the door other side let let me out of here. I'm making my point if he wasn't standing by the door Johnny on the spot with the with the with the Security Swat you heard the beep on her body well done. He gets the Mark Dalton Award of of assistant coaches Ranchera punctuating it run. That's the only coziness awesome that was great. Okay updating jalen Ramsey situation here Thursday night football tonight Jacksonville Tennessee and Jacksonville to Anderson reporting that she's been told Jalen Ramsey is fine playing tonight but a source told her he doesn't anticipate being a member of the Jaguars next Sunday here. The teams interested posted Kansas City Baltimore Minnesota Oakland Philly Seattle have all made Quinta inquiries her understanding. Almost every team has always placed a call yeah. Diana Rossini added that most teams believed the price is too high however Jacksonville asking for too much Tennessee was in play but too expensive for them so isn't it amazing that there's a game of cat-and-mouse as well. You know Dave Colwell should do down in Jacksonville. You've got to get the most forum and teams are like okay. Go ahead and play him Thursday night which we know they don't WanNa do if they're thinking of trading him so I mean there's a game involved in a game had in mouse of trying to get the most for any trade trade so maybe if he plays tonight that what does that mean that means they're willing to. They have to show everybody hey we're still willing to keep him but he could get hurt and ruin all of the on by the way Jalen Ramsey is a human being right right the cell. We're talking about his playing in career. That's at stake at he's going out on the field if he suffered significant injury where we're some people have difficulty talking about this in terms of trade value while you were talking about a human being in his body and career tune in tonight. NFL Network and lastly Yankee Starter Domingo's Germain placed placed on MLB administrative leave as the team Investigates Domestic Violence Incident Domingo Herrmann is paramount. Yes a look man Dan. I don't know what this is but you you can be on this list for a week unless there's an exemption. That's being made I mean the commissioner could pretty much do whatever he wants. Just like the same thing with the Commissioner's exempt list if the guy did what he's supposed to do them punish them I don't I don't care if I'm not gonNA sit here. Oh God affects the Yankees ability to win. Don't touch a woman donate a woman and we'll find out if he did or not but that is definitely something to keep an eye on stanton came back last night doubled but the Yankees again lost lost to the angels and what that means is there a game behind the ashes ashes a game up on the Yankees and also the dodgers there too up on the dodgers Rogers. Oh God you think the dodgers WanNa go to Houston and see them again. But this time game six and seven would be not an Shabas Ravine. NOPE NO WAY WAY SO Houston might have a red hot coal a Red Hot ver- Lander Zach Cranky and homefield throughout. That's how they're going to walk in October. Good luck to everybody else that greatly art when we come back Don van Natta a senior. ESPN senior investigative reporter is here on the rich Eisen show green room couch. He's outright here and we will hang out with Don van Natta when we come back here on the rich Eisen and show everybody's got a to do list drop off the dry cleaning pick-up some milk. Here's an idea let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance to that list. The good thing is you don't have to drop off or pick up anything. All you have to do is go to GEICO DOT COM and in fifteen minutes you could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance extra money in your pocket of course. This may be the most rewarding to do you do today. Let's take a look at Monday night action but I make sure you go to bed. DECIDE DOT COM com and use Promo Code D R One a one Monday night football. We have the Chicago bears at the Washington Redskins with the bears being four point favorite on the road. It's an eight fifteen eighteen. PM KICK ON ESPN we end our home dog primetime slate in the nation's capital with what could very easily have been to into teams. The bear stole one in Denver last week hitting a game winning fifty two yard kick at the buzzer injecting life back into the city of Chicago for now. The curse of the double doing seems to be broken. Meanwhile the Redskins haven't shown much since they're fast week one start versus the eagles where they jumped out to a seventeen nothing lead injuries continue to plague this Washington squad and we will see if they can find their first win of the season on Monday night football once again. Make sure you go to bed decide dot com and use Promo Code D. R. WanNa one first-time users get one hundred percent bonus on their first deposit. That's betty SL DOT DOT COM Promo Code. Dr WanNa one remember. It's only a game until you bet it at that D sl welcome back to the rich Eisen show not just to who our viewers and listeners to this man to my right he is a longtime a member of the journalism profession if you will the best selling off from the New York Times back in the a day and now the senior investigative reporter for ESPN and the host and executive producer of a new ESPN Docu series backstory Don van Natta back here on the show. How are you I'm doing great? Rich looks to see let's talk about the back story here. Where you got a deep dive you choose a subject? The first one was Serena and Niamey uh-huh soccer from last year correct. That's open where did this concept come from came from Jon. Dahl who was the CO creator of the thirty for thirty thirty series right and it was his idea to create a Docu series where we would go back into sports history and find scandals stories controversies. He's where there's room to run some reporting we can do bring some fresh perspectives and I was thrilled when he called me last year and asked if I'd be interested in hosting it and doing the reporting and we've got five episodes in the first season. The first premiere episode was Serena versus. The Empire that aired the last month Carlos Ramos from Portugal and the clash between Serena Williams and Carlos Rama says she sought her twenty four th Grand Slam title tying morgue records record yeah that was over a year ago now I just remembered the phone lines on this show during an NFL season they light for no story that's not NFL right except for that one because it was just a whole big big to do as to WHO's fault it was was it Serena for going over the edge over the line. Why was the umpire doing what he did in the first place? What did you learn that you might not have known but that's exactly what we sought out to find out who is most at fault for a match that ended in tears and it was the ugliest finish rush in Grand Slam history by far was it mostly Serena's fault Carlos Romo the umpires full or something else we determined rich that just about everybody shared the fault there was equal blame to go around Serena certainly could have handled the situation better? She's never to this day knowledge that she received coaching from Patrick Murata Glue to her coach during the match which was called for that set off that whole chain of events because who gets called for that sort of it almost never called for but she insisted that she never gets coaching and we Zapruder film like went back and actually showed a split screen where Murata Glue makes the signal for her to move up closer to the baseline and at that that moment she's looking right at him and Murata Glue nods like okay signal received and so I asked Moraga about it I went to Wimbledon and he gives a very interesting listing squirrelly answer about that almost winking as he sort of admits right Serena most likely saw the coaching signal. Oh the although he doesn't quite say so what fault does the Umpire admit well the fault of the Umpire Carlos Ramos is a by the book stickler for the rules gold badge on par with a terrific reputation but he left the match get out of Control and so we interviewed viewed chrissie Evert Pam Shriver a lot of people in tennis who said there could have been a soft warning perhaps at least for the coaching violation right and then the third code violation which cost Serena a game as the match was spinning out of control was for verbal abuse and there was some thought that there should swallowed his whistle. Let it go so you know when Charron pirate does his job rich he's invisible and everybody knew Carlos Ramos's name for days after that so what's the what other stories are you taking a backstory review of so the next episode which will debut on November third on. ESPN is the banning of shoeless Joe Jackson. We're going to go back in history one hundred years. We just did a story a year ago. You go for a premier now. We're going to go essentially back to the black sox. Scandal the banning shoeless Joe what exactly was going on there the legacy of shoeless Joe and then draw a a through line from shoeless joe to Pete Rose of course was banned from baseball thirty years ago for betting on the Cincinnati reds and lying about it for fifteen years and then we're going to look legalized gambling today in major league baseball the embrace of legalized gambling by commissioner Manfred and the owners and is there some hypocrisy there. Is You still holding these villains shoeless JOE from one hundred years ago Pete Rose and we're excited about the episode interviewed Pete Rose a hand delay bay weeks ago was he at a table not gambling okay he was not he signs baseball's and not much pretty much. That's right so what type hi Pete rose. Did you find really surprising when I'm really anxious for the audience to see it. I mean he almost ripped the microphone off at one point. I don't want to give too much away. He was very mad at me early on but then you see a very different Pete rose I think he saw it as a chance for him to make his closing argument to be in the hall of fame and I think viewers are going to be surprised by the rose is that we found okay you gotta give me I mean how did you piss them off like I just kept pressing on one thousand nine hundred nine and the fact that he lied for fifteen years about about gambling on the Cincinnati reds betting on baseball I have denying it until you had that book in two thousand and four and he thought I was going to ask a question or two and I kept pressing pressing him almost like a prosecutor a prosecutor and has he not does he not know who you are and what your homework I be. Well you know Don van Natta in rich you know I don't know if he actually first of all. He wasn't going to do the interview. Initially I had to go out there and sort of schmooze them. That'll be part of the episode see now. I always thought if Pete rose are done what Mickey Mantle did and by that I mean go on a tour of Hey I had a problem and I'm apologizing for it and I was a bad person father for it and I'm I'm warning everybody body. Don't be like me F- if Pete had done that just remove alcoholism and inserted gambling yes if he had done that in nineteen eighteen ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety one despite the fact that the individual who banned him for life as we all know died of a heart attack in Bartsch Ahmadi I think he'd be in the in the baseball hall. Oh I think you're probably right and if you've gone on that contrition tour and you know when he was banned from Baseball Bart Giamatti told him you need to reconfigure your life and reconfiguring your life is stop gambling pete things because he stopped betting with illegal bookmakers and only would bet in the casinos of Las Vegas legally legally right that was a reconfiguring but you know he lied in his most recent meeting with commissioner Manfred in two thousand fifteen when he tried to get reinstated and taken off the ineligible list again he lied I even a Manfred about whether he was still betting legally on sports and I believe that cost him an opportunity then so we go into all of that and we really show the legacies of shoeless Joe and Pete rose how they're linked and whether they'll ever be forgiven up by the powers that be in baseball and you know just one last on on Rosier I mean I want to give voice to the fans who in perhaps listening or watching us right now don and saying what does it matter what pr is and what does it matter if he's gambling legally like everybody else can that Major League baseball is now coming around on. He Still Reykdal those hits I mean in that's why you should be in yes in the hall of fame or or why can't the hall of fame we it's a museum tell the story of Pete Rose and put a plaque in there with his name on it. Those are the questions we're going to raise. That's a great question rich. They're certainly apocryphal now right age elite baseball's putting a lot of chips in the middle of the table right on legalized gambling hoping it'll turbo charge the game's popularity clarity and so at the same time you're still holding up Pete Rose Shoeless Joe is these villains get into all those issues in the back to when is the bat when is at Baxter three episodes number third on ESPN prayers beyond all through November on ESPN and on all the platform make a note of that and by the way eight men out is one of my favourite underrated sports the love that sports where we to interview John Sales Writer director who plays Ring Lardner. That's right you know it would studs Chelsea other as other journalists and and sales was great and so that'll be part of the episode how real is eight men out. Is it real basic it kind of exonerates shoeless Joe Jackson completely completely exonerates Shula show makes them very sympathetic character. Though interestingly sales still thinks he had he was complicit somewhat hung in the fix but there's all sorts of inaccuracies accuracy is in eight men out. Unfortunately there were some liberties taken. The book that it's based on is riddled with errors and again we get into some of that High Baxter Yeah. There's a lot of myths surround would have it ruin. It's such a good movie gloving Jonny sack in its John Mahoney. DB Sweeney Oh yeah he plays shoeless shoeless Joe Yeah Yeah I do love that Charlie Sheen fantastic that's right Charlie Hsien Charlie Sheen Don van Natta on the rich Eisen show. What's the NFL story? Do you think going on on right now. Two Thousand Nineteen it's the collective bargaining agreement. It's it's the desire of the NFL owners rich to put this behind them so they can do the broadcast deals and the streaming deals and they've made some progress from what I understand it but not nearly enough I mean the sticking points the revenue split which the owners love uh-huh not so much not so much players would like it to get closer to fifty fifty That's a stumbling block point now the other big one is the the number of games. The owners want eighteen regular season games players only want sixteen. There may be some give their we may see seventeen. I'm hearing team. which is the oddest number right? How do you even figure that out already have seventeen weeks but they're still needs to be a bye bye week? So then it would be an eighteen game season presumably Ryan. How do you do the split with nine nine home games versus eight away games right with seventeen but I only heard that last week in from a single source? I want to be really careful with his shirt but there's a lot of those are the two major points stumbling blocks but that's the big story going on right now. Remember the NFL owners wanted this wrapped up before the season and that has not happened. Well I think part of the reason why is for many reasons but you know the NFL one hundred season is very important. Yes a lot of people in three forty five Park Avenue for sure and what better way to celebrate the kick off of that season then by telling the fans guess what Labor peace for a very very long time enjoy. NFL One hundred good so perhaps that might had something to do with it but you said something streaming rights. I mean what what like how how how does this all play because it's now the twenty twenty-first-century obviously yeah of course if there is a collective bargain agreement or I should say when there is one writers optimism there will be one then that will Roger Goodell l. and and and the powers that be three forty five Park Avenue turn their attention to the broadcast rights and when I say streaming rights there's all these new players right including zone own run by John Skipper my former boss strike that are all going to be in play. You know the more suitors you have at the Table The higher the price tag will be or it just makes sense and you know the NFL's already had relationships with Amazon with twitter. You know testing the waters Yahoo Well I. I you know I am mandated you to point out the three letters. That's behind me at this desk right here in a t and t that's right so you know certainly with with the Sunday ticket etcetera. So how do you see it all playing hang out. Do you see do you see like a Thursday night or a Sunday night or Monday night package literally on somebody's APP now what you see I it's possible there are there are some owners and executives that I've talked to think that the NFL should be that ambitious and that pioneering to do something like that right at the very least the threat of it is going going to run up the cost for the networks NBC CBS and ESPN which of course now has ABC in the mix because he espn wants a super bowl they did adly they do yeah for ABC. There's been reports about it. Yeah that's GonNa that's very much something that's on the wishlist so a super bowl would be wouldn't be on ESPN ABC beyond ABC well it would be on ABC ESPN and into Portas everything will it will be on the dodge ball halftime. That's right on the coach on but one quick point you know Jerry Jones said recently. CNBC yeah he feels that there will be a fifty percent premium in the broadcast deals in part. What does that mean for for the for the layperson is it's one point nine billion dollars a year that ESPN is paying the NFL so you do the maths three billion dollars roughly or a little less and that that Jerry Jones is expecting ESPN IN ABC in the Walt Disney his knee company to pay? That's huge well if you do the math then two extra games I it's something that that somebody is being asked to pay a fifty fifty. percent premium might be easier to swallow. I don't know if there's likely get more games that you can certainly see the incentive in Roger Goodell and the owners and wanting more regular season season game if they're going for that much of an increase and you can see why it's so important to try to get eighteen regular season games although I don't think it's I don't think that's something. CBA will ever go also I'm sitting here saying I don't want more games in the NFL. I'm pissing off my my my boss has three. You might be a little bit rich. I'd be careful anytime hey tony. Write this down and amend what about Don van Natta here on the rich Eisen show what what what role does gambling sports gambling play in in all this a big one. We've talked about it before in fact two years ago. When I sat in the studio the Supreme Court had not yet done the landmark decision that they did the following may that opened the floodgates right right to states across the country it has just changed everything it is put dollar signs in the eyes of all of the Major Sports Leagues Particularly Baseball that we talked talked about the NFL as well I think when Jerry Jones made that point to the to CNBC but the fifty percent increase part of it was because of what he expects the turbo charging of ratings to occur be legalized gambling so I see because again this now dovetails into a lot 'cause I've heard that the amount of the money that the NFL could perhaps repent right by getting a wedding their beak a little bit to use a certain movie phrase pales in comparison listen to what a a television network could pay them for one single rights package and Musburger has been on the show from his recent studio saying no one in Vegas is GonNa let let the NFL take a piece or something like that without that's about the integrity pretty Mu- yeah like yeah the integrity fee I think musburger like like laugh out loud when I brought up the integrity like third him on that yeah he just look what integrity it's nonsense you know the the the integrity the integrity equity of these of these games is run by the bookmakers out there? They do a pretty good job of it and have done a really good job of it. Have we had any betting scandals that anybody knows of so so. Why do you need to pay it? However there's other ways to do it? There's data that you could possibly sell some looks at it not the southeast conference. I'm talking about about like the same type of technology that's used executive stock. That's right well for official stats for instance if your rights for official stats in the NFL the NBA Major League Baseball then and you have to give a tiny piece of the action to one of the Sports Leagues. That's being openly discussed highly dry now all right before I let you go Don Outta here on the rich Eisen show spending many many moon in New York City. Did you know this as well the the Eli Manning benching is you know while a jolt for the giants did there's a it's. It's kind of sad it just feels a little bit saddening to me it does and you know and to see Daniel Jones. It does feel sad about ally but even Daniel Jones. He's he's Eli two point Oh right. He's his boring boring as Eli thing I don when we played do we have that sound bite Mike do the Daniel Jones sound bite from from Wednesday. Just play it one more time. I am here 'cause he's eye on Wednesday's show I had I had mike play it for a second time because it sounds so much like Eli this was Daniel Jones when he met with the media on Wednesday excited for the opportunity. You never really know when something like this is going to happen and my job is to be ready and to continue to improve approve and you don't know when something like this can happen. I can't can't control that so you know I understand. The responsibility understand the the challenge. You know I feel ready and I'm looking forward opportunity. I mean if that was a transcript. He could re dictated by Eli Manning. It's true and when I when I heard Eli at the locker room yesterday rich talk about being benched he said it with more enthusiasm than jokes talked about starting. I was like he sounded were excited about him. Being the backup quarterback back in the New York giants Jones does do you think it's going to Dave Brown in studio our number one Do you think he's GonNa Work I. I don't think so. I think there's going to be a long learning learning curve. You know look. Daniel Jones look great in preseason. The bottom line is Dave. Gentlemen just wants to be right as soon as possible. Daniel Jones Ed right away. Gentleman wants to prove all those nacer. Remember all the people a lot of pundits at our network right. We're laughing out loud. When Dante Jones got picked with the sixth overall I mean it was it was it was ripped up sounding donning and it got ripped up and down so hey get let's roll the dice? 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I'm looking at under under here under thirty eight at open thirty nine to its trending down if you can get in a number early the total's gone under and seven of Tennessee's last nine games playing on the road in Jacksonville total has gone under and four of Jacksonville's last five games total and for the last five Home Games Primetime Games teams have been dreadfully woe scoring end of last year this year so far someone's GonNa under thirty eight go into Sunday I like Detroit six six Philadelphia this game opened at Lyons plus seven. It's now six so the money's coming in on Detroit as well the lines of four and one against the spread and their last five games against the eagles seven two against the spread their last nine games against the NFC East Philadelphia. Oh Oh and five against the spread in the last five games played in December. I liked Detroit plus six. You mean September and said what I say December September. It's okay I was thinking about Chris. I'm thinking Earth Wind and fire last game of the day I I'm doing at New York. Giants plus six and a half at Tampa bad. It's the beginning of the Daniel Jones era and I think this is a shot. You're all the giants need. I'm all giants are five one one against the spread in their last seven games against the buccaneers giants seven and want against the spread in their last eight road games Tampa only seven and thirteen against the spread and their last twenty games played in September over the last few years trending giants. I think Daniel Jones owns house. Everybody gets you in the back pages on Monday. Headline ally who issue not only giving us advice vice on where the smart money is. You're giving us a prediction on handle headline right. That's towing the line right there. Let's do it and just in case. There's against a a particular individual in the city of New York stalled staining tuned to the show. I do not condone this baby with this man. 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"So here's something I've been really excited to announce now I can the fall tour of stay tuned with Preet is on sale. Now, here's the short version. Go to cafe dot com. Slash tour right now and pick your show that will take you right to the ticketing site. That's cafe dot com. Slash t. o. u. r. I stop New York on Thursday, October twenty. Fifth, you can come see me in Jeffrey Toobin New Yorker staff writer and CNN chief legal analyst. Wait, he's the chief legal analyst anyway, come see. Jeffrey Toobin me at New York City's town hall on October twenty. Fifth at eight PM we have a lot to talk about on November twenty ninth Komail nanjiani will join me on stay to The Wilshire ebell theater in Los Angeles. That's right. Oscar nominated for the big sick. My favorite character Deneche in HBO Silicon Valley. And yes, he played Brad in hot tub time machine to. It's my first live show in Los Angeles. I hope to see their go to cafe dot com. Slash tour cafe dot com. Slash t, oh, you are. 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Listeners can get up to one year, managed free for more information, visit betterment dot com. Slash Preet that's betterment dot com. Slash Preet, betterment, outsmart average. So obviously the big news this week and an issue in which I've gotten an unbelievable number of questions is the red cavenaugh nomination to the supreme court. So about a week ago, we were recording. He seemed to be sailing towards a a vote in the judiciary committee this week that would have been basically party line which would have gotten him out of committee in revolt in the entire Senate in relatively short order that has been up ended as you all know and at the time of this recording at about noon on Wednesday, September nineteenth, the vote for tomorrow has been postponed because there has been a serious allegation made by woman named Dr Christine Blasi Ford, who is a psychologist in California who claims as you've all seen that a number of years ago, thirty five or thirty six. Some odd years ago when she was fifteen and Brookhaven was seventeen. They're both at a party in a suburb in Maryland, and he attempted to. Raipur and in the room during the time of the attempted attack was a friend of his named Mark judge for his part Brad Kavanagh denies completely that he ever engaged in such conduct in highschool ever after that and was never at a party like that. So the question is, who's telling the truth and whether or not you believe one party or the other, what should happen. So the first issue was procedural, right? What what happens next? Because Republicans control the Senate, the only way for the vote to have been postponed. A derailed in some way is if fellow Republican senators stood up and said they wanted more process and said that they wanted to have more investigation and to did Jeff flake who's been on the show. And this member of the judiciary committee made clear that he wanted to hear from the person who made the allegations and also perhaps Br Cavanaugh and another Senator who's not in the committee, but is an important vote for the Republican caucus and the cabinet nomination is Republican, moderate, Susan. Collins from Maine. So once those two, but particularly flake made clear on Sunday that they wanted to hear more. They shouldn't proceed. Chuck rashly, basically had no choice, but to postpone the vote and then set for Monday this coming Monday, an open hearing to which I believe they have invited both Dr. Ford who makes the allegations and also Brad Kavanagh. It's interesting that I've seen a lot of senators get up in the well including Mitch McConnell and others, and the thing that they have been complaining about and they have been upset about is not the content of the allegation. So much as the timing of when Dianne Feinstein came forward with it. And when the identity of the alleged victim came out in the press and the Washington Post and why find humorous if it weren't so serious is that it doesn't make any sense at all. The allegations seems to be the Dan Feinstein had this letter and knew about the allegations of attempted rape, begins Brett Kavanagh and saved it for tactical. Seasons until after the regular hearings took place and we were on the cusp of vote in the judiciary committee should that she could derail the nomination in derail the confirmation that make any sense to me as everyone knows in his Dianne Feinstein has made clear. She was trying to do right by Dr Ford who reluctantly had come forward who didn't want her name to be used. And if you really wanted to do damage to the confirmation Abrek Cavanaugh and you really wanted to have the the maximum possibility of destroying the confirmation of that man and you had the information about the alleged attempted rape that time to have brought it forward. If that was your goal was during the hearings when everyone was paying attention, not after their over on the off chance thought that perhaps there will be a delay in the vote because as we see now that almost didn't happen, there still may not be much of a delay. The vote could happen as soon as Wednesday, whether or not there's a hearing on Monday. So I think there's a lot of bad faith on. Top of everything else in these allegations against Dianne Feinstein. I think it's a delicate difficult sensitive thing when someone comes forward, knowing how people are treated these days when they make allegations like this, we've seen it all too often, the metoo movement that you come forward you life is offended. She's gotten death threats. She's had to move away from her home all of which he predicted an all of which came true. And so when someone is trying to in the interim before trying to persuade someone to put their name to an allegation, I think it's appropriate fair and honorable that she kept the identity secret and when and otherwise leaked out will. Then that's when the rubber meets the road. And that's when the vote got postponed as I think it should have. And a hearing was set as this recording. It sounds like she's not coming on Monday, although she is not as far as I've seen definitively ruled it out and the basis that she and her lawyer have given is that they would like before they come forward. And before she goes under oath to testify, they would like the FBI. To conduct its own investigation. So what senators are asking for based on one side is the FBI take a look at the allegations interview the appropriate people for purposes of determining whether or not it's true that bears on the fitness of this person to be on the supreme court. For them to do that. It's my understanding that the president has to direct them to do so and the president, oddly Donald Trump has. It will. The FBI doesn't do that, and it seems a little nutty to me because since when does Donald Trump let the FBI direct matters as opposed to the other way round. So it seems as soon today where an impasse that Dr fort will not come testify unless there's I some, you know, investigation done by the FBI. So some facts are brought to bear. Now, remember at should be obvious to everyone. This is not one of those things that's unprecedented is not without any precedent. There is a precedent. It was a Nieta hill making sexual misconduct allegations against then nominee Clarence Thomas back in nineteen Ninety-one. And back then before the metoo movement before they were greater numbers of women in the Senate and will would hope before there was greater sensitivity to and acknowledge of the rights of women in the belief, people should. Have in credible accusations being made. Even back then what happened was Clarence Thomas testified before the Senate Judiciary committee. And then these allegations came out after that just like we have here with Dr Ford and Joe Biden who was a chair of the judiciary committee, reopened the hearings. And there was another hearing like we're talking about for this Monday, but in between the allegations being made by a hill and the second hearing at which both Anita hill the person making the allegations and the nominee testified, guess what happened? There was an investigation. Guess who did it? It was the FBI the FBI most professional law enforcement organization that I know and I worked with him very closely for a lot of years, and I feel that they're being politicized again. I think everyone whatever side you're on, whatever you think of the ideology cabin Cabnol- the allegations of the serious one. It has credibility attached to it even if you don't fully by it and that everyone should want to get to the truth. There's no reason why senators from both sides of the aisle and the American public shouldn't become satisfied that the fullest inquiry possible has been made. Look on the Republican side. They don't wanna be derailed. There is the desire to have someone a particular view on the supreme court, and bread cabinet seems to fit the Bill, but there's another thing going onto. There's another dynamic here, right? The election is coming up in, although it seems likely that Republicans will win in November and keep the Senate. There's a decent possibility that that won't happen and that if they don't get cavenaugh confirmed in relatively short order. Maybe Democrats will control the Senate and they will do to the next nominee or to this nominee what Republicans did to America Ireland. So there's a lot at stake here, but I think it will depend on the individual judgments and reputations of certain senators like McConnell, like Susan Collins from Maine, like Lisa Murkowski from Alaska and from Jeff flake who sits on the judiciary committee from Arizona. I'm low to predict what's going to happen in the next few days. But I will say that I think the FBI should do its investigation. Dr fortune come testify per cabinet should come testify. Again, people should ask their questions and then make their own judgments. Now, at the end of the day, they may not be any full certainty as to what is true and what is not. And so the question arises, you know, how is the Senator supposed to make his or her decision on how to vote, you know, what's the standard that has to be met with respect to the. Allegation, you know, when a remind people something, it's not a court of law. This is not a trial about whether or not the crime of attempted rape was committed in is not subject to a beyond reasonable doubt standard that we have under the constitution in this country. People already have some reasons that they want to support brick cabinet, no matter what other people have reasons why they don't want to support per cabinet because they think that he's not right for the court because they think he's been misleading about a number of other issues during his hearings as Ron cleaned, pointed out when he was here a short time ago. And so for them, the question is not do you believe absolutely. One hundred percent that the allegations are true, it's whether or not they think that the additional allegation is credible enough that it gives them further doubt. And I think it's okay to have this standard. Senator is entitled to vote his or her own conscience on the issue. So we'll see what happens. Next question comes from Rennick four who writes, really enjoy the podcast. What if anything, have you gleaned from the recent Manafort plea deal? I feel like the news is getting tighter around this corrupt administration. Well, I don't know if it's getting tighter around the administration. It's certainly getting tighter around Paul Manafort and everyone else who comes within the crosshairs of the Muller investigation. It seems to me the time after time after time with your Michael Flynn or George popadopoulos or Paul Manafort that your best option is to surrender quickly. And Paul Manafort is an object lesson in, I think not particularly good lawyering, not particularly good strategy. If at the end of the day, he was going to give it up and cooperate and give the prosecution formation the best time to have done that would have been to been remorseful at the beginning and plead at the beginning and give up the information at the beginning, and it seemed like the it was trying to game things out and he got convicted at trial, which shows the public that. Neutral jury that even had on it. People who were supporters of the president, found proof beyond a reasonable doubt to convict him on a number of counts. Another trial pending an in between those two trials decided to cooperate and plead guilty. So the prosecutors have the best trophy you could possibly have in a case, you have both a conviction in an open proceeding with conviction by a jury, and you also have an admission of guilt in the form of a plea by the defendant. That's a very rare thing, and now they have information that can use against other folks. So my sense is the Manafort is providing substantial assistance because otherwise the prosecutors would not have accepted as cooperation after having in their pocket, a guilty conviction, a number of counts, and so you can expect charges against other people. I'm not saying who they might be because I don't know, but you can expect that they would have only agreed to accept its cooperation if there are other people against whom they can bring charges up the food chain released lateral Tim in the funny thing is. Answering your questions. If we've been taping this podcast just a few days ago on Saturday, we probably would have spent all our time talking about Paul Manafort, but news moves at the speed of light. And within days we're talking about the cavenaugh confirmation and maybe next week they'll be something else, but keep your eye on the ball and remember that these cases are going to keep coming that the idea that Donald Trump's lawyers suggested last year that the Muller investigation will be wrapped up imminently our before thanksgiving or before the end of two thousand seventeen was nonsense is nonsense. There's a lot still yet to come. This week is Sally Jenkins, she writes about sports as a feature writer at the Washington Post. She also covers other things, including as you'll hear US attorneys, we talk about Justice and fairness in American sports. And one of the reasons I asked it'd be in the show was she wrote what was pretty much the definitive immediate viral articles about the final in the US open a couple of weeks ago where Serena Williams had a fairly controversial running with a chair empire. We also talk about Colin Kaepernick and the NFL protests around police brutality, the NFL's owned brutality problems and Sally's friendship with cyclist Lance Armstrong who went from Darlington villain when his doping was revealed. That's coming up. Stay tuned. You know, it's not smart. So many things lying to federal investigators picking fights on Twitter, eating bad pizza and another. Not so smart thing. The way hiring used to be job sites that overwhelm you with tons of the wrong resumes. Read the right resumes with ZipRecruiter, and now more than ever we all know the importance of surrounding yourself with the best people. Now, there's a smarter way at ZipRecruiter dot com. Slash Prete ZipRecruiter's powerful matching technology finds the right people for you and actively invites them to apply. It's no wonder that ZipRecruiter is rated number one by employers in the US that rating comes from hiring sites on trust pilot with over one thousand reviews. 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Simply safe has gotten an a plus rating with the Better Business Bureau for ten years running and they have over forty thousand five star reviews online. That's more than I have. So go today to SimpliSafe dot com slash Prete. That's SimpliSafe dot com. Slash Preet. Sally Jenkins. Thank you so much for being on the show. Thanks for having me. So this is a little bit different. You're the first person from the world of sports sports writer to be on the show, but I want to mention to the audience that you and I have met before. And the first time we met was in my office when I was used attorney and you were the one asking the questions, but it was in March of two thousand fifteen. And you wrote in the Washington Post, you know, a fairly thorough. I thought pretty fair profile of me as the US attorney and you wrote the following. And so I think you're pros is excellent, very good mastery of the language. So you describe me like this. The most powerful prosecutor in the country, the US attorney for the southern district of New York occupies a four square chamber flooded with relentless government, ceiling light, which makes his charcoal suit all the darker and his white shirt. So stiff, it could pour itself a glass of water all the whiter. Okay. So how the hell does a shirt ports up. A glass of what could you explain the metaphor? Because I've been trying to understand like I get it. It sounds cool, but that doesn't make any sense. I felt like your shirt could have stood up on its own in walks across the room. So why don't you tell you how stiff as much today? Very relaxed. The minute I walked in, I told you, I said, you've lost ten years. Yeah, being a prosecutor, very rock and roll. Right. Well, let's rock and roll then. So the other thing that I wanted to mention that I want to blame you for is, you know, we became friendly after meeting and I had some thoughts of it writing a book, and you've written a number of books and courage me to do it. And so I did so wanna say, it will never forgive you. That's right. Because writing is is breaking rocks with a shovel. Really, it's difficult. So first of all, congratulations. Well, it's not published. I'm not done editing it. But as I told you when we first brought this up, I'll read that book. I mean, or hope. That's why I'm counting on if all the guests of the show read the book that's like it's like forty bucks, so it's pretty good. It's more than zero in you. You're right about a lot of things have to sports is sports inherently easier to interest people in because the nature of it is is interesting, I think so it's a highly emotional volatile subject for people as the Serena Williams match demonstrated. I mean, that's probably one of the best read things I've ever written at any level book or magazine or newspaper a couple million people read that peace time real time. Yeah. So, yeah, it's easier to immediately engage people on something that are already feeling pretty hot about the engines already running pretty hot in the first. Why was a sports columnist assigned to write a profile of the US attorney because it was my idea. First of all, it was, you know, I, I write a lot of things outside of sports. I, I've written political profiles over the years for the Washington Post. So it wasn't because of my perceived tremendous athleticism. It was because of your thought. I live in New York for one, even though I worked for the Washington Post. So you're in your you were at the time and remain a very intriguing figure nice with the remain. I saw that you edited yourself in real time you were? It was it was. It was a very definitive past tense usage. I saw it and then you add the parenthetical look, look, I don't care. It's fine. It's, but I want you to know that. I totally caught it very nimbly. Yes, athletic. All right. And once again, maybe in the future I'll be interesting, but today you're the interesting one. Let's let's talk about that match. So it was the US open. It was the final and it was Serena Williams who's one many times in many different venues and she's playing the relatively unknown. Naomi Asaka. And before we get to happen in the match, I want to talk about the writing of this piece that you put together. What made you write that piece so immediately and so quickly? Were you hot about it? Interesting. I thought it was. It was unique and unprecedented in my personal experience to see a grand slam final end the way that it did. So that's news and and I called the office immediately and said, you know, I think I have to. Don't you? And they were like, well, we'd love it if you would. So I started typing took about ninety minutes probably what's up the stage. So Serena Williams is in the final with me Asaka Trina Williams, get beaten pretty badly in the first set. Right? Six down six two. And now it's the second set and there were a series of calls made by the chair up Carlos Rama's three in particular. The resulted in a fairly harsh penalty against Serena tells what those were. So it begins when he calls her for coaching, which is a pretty ticky tacky. Technical call to make coaching is a subject in tennis that has been debated for a long long time. It's something that is called disproportionately against women. Actually men don't get called for it nearly as much what's the violation. So the rules are fairly incoherent actually in women's tennis, you can. You can. You can be coached at certain stages of the match, but not at others. The rules are different in men's tennis in a grand slam final. The rule is basically no coaching in a grand slam final, but it's a scrambled egg policy. Basically, to start with her coach did try to signal something from the box. She claims first of all that they don't have preset signals and therefore even had she seen what he was doing. She would not have understood what he meant by it, but it's but it's technically true because he's mid, yes. He said he was engaging incurring. So the first violation is coaching. You about that in the reason Mexicans question is, you know, we spent a lot of time on the show and I have in my life talking about what's fair in the courtroom. What's fair in politics and with a rule should be followed and with discretion is of the person who's going to bring about the penalty. So it's a rule, it is. It was admitted that the rule was broken and we'll get in a moment to whether or not it was selectively enforced cracked, but any unfairness in calling that infraction. So discretion is the keyword here, the chair empire has a lot of latitude. He, for instance, could have warned her. He could have leaned down from the chair and said, hey, your guys trying to signal you tell him to knock it off, right? I mean, that's one option we had. He's a known stickler he called it a Alan Dershowitz on television talking about this one of those rare occasions. He wasn't defending the legal strategy of Donald Trump, and he said, no concepts that with me a little bit that the unfairness of the calling of coaching was similar in the law. If you. Penalty on a client for an infraction by the lawyer, correct. And it was the coach who was engaging in the bad conduct and a harm should not have been visited on the player. Do you agree with that? I do agree with that. And Billie Jean King said that very thing. It's part of the problem with the way the rule is written is that the player absorbs the penalty for something that the coach is doing that Serena Williams in the middle of a grand slam. Final has no control over the people in her box, right. Okay. So the first thing happens, yes or them. The second thing happens. What's that? So the second thing happens and he has to call this. She breaks her racket cut and dried no real discretion there. Although, you know, some again, Charon parts have an enormous amount of latitude. There's some chair empires who might have issued a warning rather than what they call a code conduct violation. So she breaks her racket. That's two strikes essentially what we're working up to his third strike and the significant to the third strike is the significance of the third strike is that it's a mandatory deduction of a full game. So when she breaks her rack. It's the second violation. He deduct a point because he's already called her for coaching. It's a second strike against her and therefore it deduct the point. And so now she's had a point taken from her in a critical game in a critical stage of the match. Now, Serena Williams has come back. She's a notorious, slow starter. She's come back from a set down in more grand slam finals than we could probably count on four hands. This is part of what she does. She feels herself competitively with a certain amount of competitive anger. And so now what he's done is he's walked up to the edge of a cliff. And it's the third call, arguably Serena, walked herself up a little bit. She coach did the thing. I don't condone her conduct across the board and I don't think anybody does, and I don't think she defends reconduct across the board. It's the third call that Carlos Ramos makes that is really where he had the most latitude and the most discretion. Any makes the strangest call of the match. And it happens to be the one call that in my mind, an empire earn official or a sentencing judge, or prosecutor really doesn't make this is what takes the entire match situation from a normal skirmish between athlete and chair, umpire or athlete and referee and tips it over into truly unprecedented ugliest situation I've ever seen in a grand slam tournament, and I've covered a number of which is what so Serena Williams does. What Serena Williams is arguing with him. There's no audible obscenity, which is a rule. There is no threat back in two thousand and nine. She threatens aligns woman and says, I should shove this ball down your throat. I wrote it in two thousand nine. I should have been suspended for that. So you think that merely calling because I think she called him a thief, right? She said you stole a point for slow point and I think Kalma thief. Yeah, you're if you split there was there was no profanity there's no profanity and there was no suggestion of having them swallow a piece of sports equipment. Exactly. She's arguing in a in a fairly controlled for at least from my point of view, watching at home with the rest of the TV audience. You where you could hear every word, the people in the arena couldn't hear actually what was going down on the court, but at home watching television, you actually could hear every word she was saying and what? What's your demeanor during this time? Because then we'll talk about this because it's interesting when standard angry between men and women. Argumentative strident would use the word emotional, certainly. But you also haven't used controlled controlled and that makes a difference. I mean, she was very careful for instance not to use foul language not to use threatening language. You know, she'd been in the situation before in two thousand nine when she was younger player with a lot less self command. And she had behaved really brutally in a brutally ugly fashion. And I think has worked pretty hard to get a grip on that sort of behaviour on the court. But again, technically he was within his rights to call it. I don't think he was within his right to call her what he calls her for it. He calls her for verbal abuse, which first of all is an incredibly vague term. Anyway, you know, it's in the rule, it's there is a rule against verbal abuse. It seems to me problems with these rules. Yeah, it's a timeout, an pretty archaic rulebook anyway, verbal abuse. I mean, I didn't hear anything abusive in what she was saying. I mean, I just didn't I to this. I don't want to be an objective standard of abuse, like if he felt a Bucur part of what you wrote is that the chair decided to make it about himself. Look, I've seen them yes to where a defense lawyer is making an argument. And for some reason, the judge thinks you know, many judges would not find it, offensive. Particular judges may be sensitive about it, finds it offensive and begins to rule against one side, which I think is unfair. But. It is within the discretion of that judge. So was incumbent on the judge. In this case, the chair up to control himself or knowing the stakes and being the professional athlete, maybe the best in the sport that we've ever seen up to her to control herself. I think nobody. Likes it when a judge of any sort in search themselves into a situation where things appear to be working themselves out no member of the audience and no competitor wants the final score to be determined by the guy in the striped shirt or the person in the blazer sitting in a chair, ten feet above the action on the court, and this court with a presidential election or a judge in a Paul manafort's trial k. people were a little uncomfortable with the way the Virginia judge kept inserting himself right. That's a great analogy running. So when you feel that someone is tilting the floor, particularly when a judge is tilting the floor that Sharon participated the court. Okay. So it's difficult now to know whether Naomi Osaka was going to beat Serena Williams in two straight sets and when the US open championship because this judge dropped a game and appoint on her side of the court. This is one of the great philosophical debates in sports. You know, do you call the foul in the final second of NCWA championship game or the NBA final? Do you call holding on the last play of the Super Bowl or interference? Do you let them play and potentially commit physical violations out there? Or if it's on the fence, in the case of a clear and serious violation in any sport or in in the real world outside of sports, you call it. What you're saying is I think there's more of a debate about whether or not in a in a close situa-. D. become a deciding factor, right? D- become the deciding factor. And so a lot of times audiences get very frustrated or sports writers, or you know, whomever, particularly competitors get very frustrated when referee chair umpire call something that could be called it at any stage of the game. I again, you go back to common violations that early in the game are not decisive factors, but in the final thirty seconds, obviously create an unequal situation. Jim Komi sending the letter. So, I mean, we're going to talk by the way all the parallels between Serena Williams sentencing and everything is going on, so so here's what here's what it looked like to me. So what happens when Carlos Ramos calls that third code conduct violation and slaps an entire game penalty on her? Basically six. The third strike on her, you know, says three strikes you're out basically game set match over. I'm taking the entire US open away from you. So with that, looks like to me in a bunch of other people is, you know, you get pulled over for speeding and you wind up in handcuffs in a jail cell. Okay. It feels like an incredibly disproportionate sentence in the offense. So the push back a little bit in figure out what the principles are here. Sweeney was down. She lost the first set, and I know you say that she's one of the greatest comeback players of all time. But she was only down a further game. In other words, is it was the breaking point for her. She could come back and one the entire match. If it had remained three two, I think it was or because this one additional game was taken away from her, then it was game over or is it? Is it combination of that and what this did to her mental state? So I think it was the combination. I think it was the three code conduct violations in a row which were incredibly disruptive, I think to both players and the audience. But also again, it's the stage of the match. It was a combination of the confluence of about three or four different factors that I think we're so upsetting to the audience to her to Asaka. You mentioned the audience a few times and shouldn't empire in the situation step back a little bit and let the players play because it's entertainment only or does it does it need to be as principled and rule oriented as any other thing we engage in? Well, I think that's a great question. And I think the answer is the former. I, I think that understanding. Context. Situational awareness is really critical for on pars in referees, and I think the really good ones in the game understand exactly who they are and where they are, and part of my issue with the way, Carlos Ramos umpired that match was that he had no situational awareness, absolutely no sense of time and context. And you know, really, there was a significant cost to both players even though it is sport, you know, athletes are incredibly ephemeral creatures. They only get a few cracks at all-time greatness at US open finals. So there was a a real sense that he had deprived both players of something quite important, even though it is just a tennis match. You know there was three point five million dollars at state? Yeah. So there's a certain amount you want to earn a certain amount of Justice. They're more importantly, you know, for Niamey Asaka it was her debut as a grand slam champion, and it's really kind of forever marred. What level of blamed you put on Williams plenty. But again, you know, it's the disproportion that is distressing in the situation. And what did you make so then the the the game is awarded to Asaka answering gets now. She gets very upset. This guy what she did. She calls for the tournament supervisor which she had every right to do the tournament. Super supervisor can overturn the decision of the chair umpire. In this case they didn't. So you think the the chair abuses already? I think he overstepped and I think he he overreached and I think he. Wasn't going to be spoken to that way. And I think he let his emotions get the better of him and, and you know, look, your job in that situation is to warn her, which is what most sure umpires would have done. They would have said. Careful. You've got to code conduct violations. Don't make me give you a third one because then I'll have to take a game away from you was that he didn't like being talked to in a certain way by a woman by black woman in that he was being in some ways misogynist in his umpiring. You know, I don't know about the misogyny, but I do think that the evidence is absolutely clear that male players behave that way all the time without those kinds of penalties. And I'll give you an example. I've seen up teen matches where male players broke racquets swore in one instance of probably the worst instance I recovered and I really like Andre Agassi and he's grown into just a wonderful man and he, he outgrew this incident, but he was playing a match against Peter Korda at the US open and he. FUD empire called him and SOB, and then spit at him on the changeover and played on without penalty. In fact, the Charon per tried to penalize him Agassi called for the tournament supervisor of the tournament supervisor came out in overturned the chair umpire and basically let Agassi play on in the match. He was the biggest star in the men's game, but you know what everyone does. It is not an honorable defense certainly not and is a little bit of, you know what people refer to as what aboutism. Loathe and isn't this a little bit of that? No, here's why. Because if you look statistically at the number of times any player, male or female has been penalized an entire game. You mean that huge penalty that huge penalty. Serena Williams. Got yeah. Once in thirty five hundred matches one other time in thirty five hundred tennis matches. You can't find a tip people to have tried to analyse statistically whether women get penalized like this more than men. The fact is nobody gets penalized the way she did. Nobody. So you know what that suggests to me is there was a clear bias on the part of this chair umpire. It was an unprecedented penalty. Do you think the Trump should continue to be in the game? You know, I, I do. I don't think drove pretty hard. No. I'm saying I think he did committed a real disservice and I think he led his bias, get the best of him on the court. Now, what sort of bias it is it could have been purely personal. I happen to think it was. It was biased towards women behaving that way on a court because he's presided over other matches where he didn't penalize Ruffin a doll for a full game. And Rafa Nadal came after him. Verbally said, you'll never Ruffin adult told him at the French Open. You'll never sit in the chair and another one of my matches, which is almost verbatim. One of the things Serena Williams said to him in the US open final. So then the match and and it's chaos and everyone's upset when they come out for the ceremony. Once you describe the scene? Well, essentially, you've got both players destroy. Brought an interiors. The the crowd is live loser. The loser, and the winner are both crying. The crowd is booing the boozer raining down on the court is waiting for your chance to speak because first Serena speaks and and I only has her her visor right? Which he pushes down and she's wiping tears away. Even though she has just done the most extraordinary thing of her entire life of her entire career, maybe the most extraordinary thing she will ever do and the moments ruined for her. The the moment is ruined for because of the intensity, the intensity of the anger and the emotion in the arena from the crowd, you know, no one wanted to see it in that way. Look, that moment is so complex in so loaded because Osaka is sick because she didn't want to win a match that way. She didn't want anything given to her. She wanted to beat Serena Williams in the US Open final Serena. Williams is sick. It what's been taken away from her. But I think also probably I presume fairly sick and that she's helped ruined this moment for this great new young player. The crowd is. For both players and furious at the chair umpire for having created the situation in the first place we tennis is a fairly undemonstrative is a very hushed sport. So that level of noise and emotion was was pretty extraordinary. But then what happens Lund Serena Williams puts her arm around Niamey Asaka leans over and says, I'm very proud of you. They're not doing you. And then she also tells the crowd, no more booing. This is her moment. You know, let's make this the best moment we can for her and no official, and no announcer was going to get a grip on that crowd. Serena Williams at that moment is the only person who can do it, and she knows that. And I think took responsibility for herself in that moment and did exactly the right thing. My last question to you on this match. What was the angry reaction to your article? Do people who are upset with your view? What was because it really it hits a nerve. You know, I think the match it self hit a nerve people resp-. Sponde- in intensely emotional ways to sporting events, trigger events, sports events because people when you root for somebody part of what you're rooting for, you want to be right. Okay. You don't want to be wrong about them. So the stakes get a little high rooting for for sports figures or sports teams. There have been a million psychological studies that show that people take the successes and failures of their sports teams or sports figures as very personal successes and failures. It's about your judgment, right? But the second part of it is, you know, Serena Williams provokes real discussion. She has set out actively sought the platform to provoke discussion about gender and race, and it makes people uncomfortable. It makes them defensive and it makes them resentful sometimes. Is it appropriate for her to do that? Or is it individual person? It's up to each individual person. It's not inappropriate. You know, Billie Jean King chose to do it. Arthur Ashe chose to do it. LeBron James has made a whole different range of social activist choices than Michael Jordan. Did you know some. Elites doing some athletes don't and it's not income. You know, I asked Billie Jean King that question, once I said our athletes supposed to be activists, do they have a responsibility? And she said, no, it's choice. She said, I wanted it. I wanted to be that. But I, I would never impose that on an athlete who didn't feel comfortable with it. So that's a great segue to talk about football and kneeling during the anthem then con cabinet and you've written about this and a preliminary question which you address is, why does it make people so crazy? The issue of somebody protesting a particular way, and you have said with respect, I think to the to the con- capper Nick controversy and his decision to protest, not the anthem, not the flag, but police brutality and inequality in various sectors of of the country. And you have said that in part, it's because people view that as a denial of American exceptionalism of American exceptionalism. What does that mean? Well, it's interesting because the NFL on Sundays has become a form of civil religion. You can find a whole lot more people in this country at football games on Sunday. Then in church and the NFL has quite actively sought to wrap themselves in the flag. And also there's a certain amount of wrapping themselves in a religious, like fervor and based on a defense to religion, or is that about money. Well, it's both. I mean, it's it's not pure artifice, but they did set out to wrap themselves in the flag during the nineteen sixties. Pete Rozelle even said, you know, they, they basically were going to turn themselves into, you know, this sort of patriotic institution in the middle of the Vietnam war. What was really pretty craven about the whole thing was that NFL owners were protecting their players in their financial investments in their players by helping them stay out of the draft. They were funneling them into national guard units, local national guard units. If you went to Green Bay Wisconsin, and you're a young man trying to get into your national guard unit as opposed to getting shipped out to Vietnam. You couldn't get in because it was full of Green Bay Packers. Same thing in Dallas. Okay. The Dallas Cowboys filled up all the national guard unit. So in fact, that came a bit of a scandal. Life magazine did an expose on it is the NFL has had this coming for quite a long time. Why? Why the NFL as opposed to nearly. Baseball or the NBA was it just was it just a particular decision they made by any sport. They've been more aggressive in marketing themselves. That way, you know, football is a war without death game look early or not always without debt, in fact, particularly in the Victorian era. So I mean, I've written entire book about this subject called the real all Americans. The birth of American football follows closely on the closing of the frontier and the end of the the Indian wars. I mean, basically college football is essentially founded about six months after little Bighorn. The frontier is closed. The transcontinental railroad is finished, and there's really nothing else left to conquer. The wilderness has conquered right, and there's this fear in Victorian America that American men are becoming feminized. And over civilized there was a fear and we had it today by the way, governs a lot of how we look philosophically at sports. There is this neurosis American neurosis this fear that the human body is. Being outstripped by our technology. And when that happens, we get a little funny about our sports in this country. So this controversy about the kneeling during the anthem with interesting about that in part is I feel like a lot of people assume that it's always been that whether the players come on the field during the anthem players only started coming up on the field during the national anthem in two thousand nine thousand nine ten years ago. So there was a moment in the sixties where Pete Rozelle. I think for one of the super bowl's basically sent a memo that said, you know, I want everybody standing on the sidelines with their helmet under their arm standing at attention that that's fairly brief. As soon as every game becomes televised. They didn't want the audience watching the national anthem before NFL games. They wanted them watching commercials. I mean, the anthem wasn't even televised particularly it's only when the NFL mix a deal with the Pentagon to start using the NFL as a marketing vehicle for the US military that you start getting this, the anthem izing of the NFL do we do too much of that at big. Games too. I asked rocky Bleier. Rocky Bleier was a great Super Bowl champion for the Pittsburgh Steelers who had actually used the one of the few NFL players who did not get out of the draft, the Vietnam draft. He ended up going to Vietnam as an infantryman got shot and blown up had shrapnel in in his legs, almost income back in play football, worked his way back in wins a couple of Super Bowls with the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I asked him not too long ago. I was doing a interview with him and I said, you know, why do you think people feel so strongly about this whole anthem thing in stadiums anyway, and he said, I don't know guilt, right? If you talk to servicemen if you talk to football players who've served those guys like a rocky Bleier is a little uncomfortable with the fact that if you look in any football stadium on Sunday, maybe one percent of the people in that stadium have any relation to the armed services. Maybe. I mean, that's what it is in this country today. Right? The people who serve our comprise about the come from about one percent of our population as opposed to Vietnam when during the draft. I mean significantly hired American families had personal relationships to servicemen during the Vietnam era, and we don't anymore. And that's a fact. And so that's a weird neurosis to me. You know, what is this thing that we're doing as an audience that we are so captivated by this issue with the flag and service? If you look at NFL players, I've studied the NFL player population for their relationship. The league is loaded with guys whose parents served who have brothers or sisters serving some of them married women who've served. I mean, they actually probably have a stronger relationship to the military personally, average person certainly than you were made right. You know, you use this other phrase to describe what's going on and the pressure to behave in a certain way, not. Behave in a certain way as enforced patriotism. Is that what you think it is? Involuntary. Patriotism is not patriotism. It's North Korea, you know, it's simple, right? Involuntary. Patriotism is contradiction in terms. And do you think it some heightened because the president gets involved? Certainly, of course, you look presidents have gotten involved with football since teddy Roosevelt shore. You know, Woodrow Wilson Woodrow Wilson's wife at one point said it's a good thing that you know Princeton won the football game because I don't think Woodrow could've taken losing a football game and an election. Right, right. Interesting to me how much of this, but just beneath the service just beneath the surface is about economics. Yes, in about profit. And now we have the issue of Nike. So this whole time, people thought Colin Kaepernick, you know, sacrificing line, I think he has in there was a controversy because Nike has his new ad campaign, and a lot of people begin burning Nike shoes on saying, we're going to boycott and then it turns out sales. Like thirty one percents. Yeah. So this is about business or is this about patriotism? Well, they're, they're intertwined when it comes to the American way. Yeah, but you know, it's funny because you know, as I've always, I've always thought calling Kabir next message was incredibly muddled. You know, I applaud him for social activism. I applaud him for giving a lot of money to 'cause he believes in, you know, part of this to me stemmed from an imprecision of language. You know, the NFL players who are still wanting to kneel on the sidelines. They get infuriated when they say it's not about patriotism. It's not about the anthem and you're like, well, then why are you doing it during the anthem? I mean you the problem here is but he's not protesting the flag people get very upset about when they hear the description of this as protesting the flag. How do you resolve that linguistic issue to me, the player's movement again, which I applaud and in which I defend, but as a as a language person, I think that they, they muddled the message. Initially, I knew what Tommie Smith and John Carlos wanted from the nineteen sixty eight Olympics. I knew what Mohammed Ali one. And when you refer them who won medals raise black gloved fists on the metal gave up. There actually ended up surrendering their medals. They had a very clear written agenda a set of social Justice issues that they had very clearly stated had very clearly thought out. Mohammad-Ali again, had a very clear set of beliefs in an agenda, Billie. Jean King always knew exactly what she was fighting for. I feel like Colin Kaepernick I personally feel like he has lacked the sort of diamond cutters clarity that some of those other activists had in terms of reaching people come up. You fixed sure. The too late. I think it could be fixed. The message can be fixed. But you know, when's the last time you heard calling cabernet, talk Yellowstone. I mean, I, it's been what a couple years he might sound like, Jared, Kushner. I have no idea. That's the thing I haven't heard calling Kabir Nick. I really had league Nike told him not to talk. That's interesting point. I, I really don't know because no one can reach. I mean, it's not a criticism. It's more expressing a certain curiosity about his method. There's a murkiness here. That is interesting to me. So how does a house this diffused or resolved, or is it going to be continuing issue so long as some people think there's something that's wrong in society and were protesting. We're going to have these two camps that are very polarized into the future. Well, so Colin Kaepernick has collusion case against the NFL, so we'll we'll have a legal resolution to whether or not he was in fact blacklisted or blackballed from the league that will be in a critical outcome in and turning point. You know, at some point, I do think that capper Nick is going to have to be something more than a cipher that people are projecting onto. He lacks the hard edges of that other great athlete activists have had to me. Okay. Okay, good. The do you think that football will exist in its current form given documented cases of concussions and other deterioration of people physically after playing the game for awhile? Do you think that football will exist in anything like its current form and fifty years? I do because I think the American public has decided in eight hundred different ways that it wants it, whether it's giving huge tax breaks to billionaire owners and devoting huge amounts of city budgets to their stadiums through are not going to get rid of you. You're out at once. I actually think what's going to happen is they're going to have to do because I do think that injury and particularly the concussion and neurological issue in football is the black lung. They have a black lung problem. And so I think what's going to happen is what happened to the coal industry in this country where they're going to have to establish a fund a, a large ongoing fund and the price of doing business as an NFL owner is going to be to contribute to the lifelong medical care of your employees, but it will be football will continue because you put it. I could just quote. You back to yourself over and over again. You think he wants wrote football has become the liturgy of empire? Yes, that sounds very grand. Well, it's true. I don't think those are my words. I think I was quoting. Oh yes, you're quoting someone, it sounds like you. It's a great phrase, I, I mean, I've quoted it because I believe it. You know, I look football is about taking. It's about moving other bodies out of the way to take territory right. It's very American to is boxing boxing exist. I mean, boxing doesn't exist in some. It's boxing's already been. It exists, but on a much smaller scale than it did when I was a kid, the NFL has a staying power. Again, I don't think you can underestimate the degree to which politicians wanted the NFL commits all sorts of transgressions and and they get let off the hook and a lot of ways by law enforcement by regulatory agencies by city governments by the federal government. It's it's very interesting. We support that league in ways that we don't support any other American business. And so I do think it's going to stick around. But as I say, it's a workplace hazard, it's one hundred percent injury rate in that league. So you had a professional relationship with another legendary athlete named Lance Armstrong. My friend, Lance homes to your friend, Lance Armstrong wrote two books with him. He didn't read any of the words while you're at the mall. I wouldn't say that. All right. You work the good ones that he say that football has become the liturgy of empire. I don't think that was not say, okay, I don't want to relitigate his doping and everything else. But now you you once wrote after you came to understand and believe that he'd engage in this conduct and adoped to use the parlance, which is a bad term by the way it is. I'm gonna use that term for next. I don't wanna get into a debate about what dirty. I, but he did a thing that got him in trouble. And then you wrote a piece saying, you know, you're trying to find your anger toward Lance Armstrong and he can't find it. I've never found my indignation against Barry Bonds or Marian Jones, or I mean, I just don't have it. I mean, if I'm a moral, then I'm immoral on that subject, but I don't have it. I've never had it long before I met Lance. I didn't have it against Mary Joe, but is it because of the nature of that transgression or because you know, you don't put them on a pedestal, and you look at them for what they have done, either in fighting against cancer or an achieving something in sports that known as a retrieved before. And so if they have this other thing that they were doing. That doesn't bother me. So what doesn't bother me about it is that I feel like we have as a society done a profoundly bad job of working through the philosophy of medicine, doping performance enhancement. We have again as a language person, we've done an incredibly poor job of defining what performance enhancement is why it's wrong. There was a study in two thousand sixteen from some Dutch scientists who gave EPO to some cyclists riding up mount von to which is a stage in the tour de France. They took a bunch of highly trained cyclists and they give half of them EPO and they gave half of them a placebo. And the riders on the EP, oh road actually slower. We actually don't know there's very scientists shoddy EPO APO is throw Poyton which is a medicine that they give cancer patients to help build their red blood cells back athletes have used it to build a red blood cells in competition. So we, first of all, we've done a really poor. Job of defining these substances. And the easiest thing for everyone to do is demonize will blame ask you this because I come from new law and order background in their rules, and with respect to some things you can say, well, the rules are not clear, and there is no intention -ality, but are you saying maybe not saying this there was back to all the people you mentioned like Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, with respect to any of them. Did they know there was a rule sure ended. They knowingly violates so so. So why can't we be upset with them for that? We can. Okay, but you're not. I mean, I think we can be upset with them upset with them to the level of making them pariahs of society. Millions of dollars and singing the federal government on them, the quality of proportionality. What I'm saying is that I don't have the heart to judge an athlete who has won skill in one skill only is an incredibly ephemeral creature and is using something to recover from an injury or to get back on the bike to ride up another ALP on another day in a three week, bike race through terrain, that car transmissions have a hard time getting up. It's just never made sense to me personally to sort of judge those people as you know, the worst members of our society. I, it just doesn't is part of the problem that we put these people on pedestals and so we can incredibly disappointed with Allison sometimes too. And we've you them as heroes. We demand purity from them that we do not demand from any other member of our art of our science or the White House, but give you another example, why is it that the founders of Snapchat can go to Stanford make millions and millions of dollars exp-. Flooring entrepreneurial opportunities, but NCW basketball players. If they take a free para sneakers or a meal there called criminals. Why is that. In the law. We spend a lot of time revising laws, understanding that our standards change from Aera. In some ways, I am concerned with the degree to which we make athletes live in other epochs while we own Vaughn. So in other words, an NC double a player. The terms of his scholarship are exactly the same as they were in nineteen sixty. Meanwhile NCWA revenue TV revenue alone has gone from five hundred fifty million dollars a year to a billion. It's almost becoming an equal Justice under the law situation in the NC double a. because we really creating a separate class of citizens last thing because your your career spans all sorts of amazing interviews, and I hope in presume that you will eventually get capital to talk to you. But you were, I believe the last person less journalists to interview to Paterno who was the head coach, head football coach at Penn State? And you know, opinions vary. About him and what he did or did not know my opinions vary about him, but I don't want, you know, we don't have time to go through that horrible series of events. Can abusive took place at Penn State? The question is though, how did it feel to interview him when he was basically on his last breath, he was dying of cancer. He was not well. And just describe what that was like given the complexity of that person? Well, it was it was profoundly difficult and rending because you know, he was surrounded by his family. He was also flanked by lawyers. It was in some ways awkward. Why do you think you agreed to do it? Because I think he was fighting for his legacy, his posthumous legacy, and I think he felt that he had a chance with me to get some nuances and subtleties across which I think we're legitimate explanations of his behavior. You know, I, I think he had some mixed motives. You know, I think I think it was justifying him some things to himself too. I mean, it was part of his was calculated strategy in part of it, I think was he was talking to himself as much as to me. Do you worry about that you have to be worried about people who are trying to burnish their legacy and engage in? Sure. Self aggrandizing publicity. I tried to do that and you did the whole start shirt. So I clearly sucked at that. You know, my dad is a sports writer, so I grew up in the knee and he's he's a great sports writer and of a certain type. And he spent a lot of time a bursting, the pretensions of a lot of the people that he covered. He's an my Dan Jenkins was known as a really has always been known as a very truthful. Sports writer who quoted athletes talking the way. They really talk saying the things they really say and not writing children's literature, which is what a lot of sports writing can devolve into. If you're not really careful, you know fables, right? And I like I like talk like, you know what? You know what? I really love talking to athletes most is when they're older and right on the cusp of retirement because they want to be understood athletes who've spent years in in basic silence holding the media at bay. They hit like thirty eight thirty nine forty years old, and they start wanting to kind of talk to somebody and they want someone to understand the sacrifice or the inner driver that pushed him to do these extrordinary things. That's when they're at their most interesting of the easiest Mark in the world for for someone really a good interviewer is a great legendary athlete, turning forty. Final question then who is the athlete, who is still playing today in any sport that you would like to interview in there on the cusp of retirement, what's fun is to find someone who hasn't been fully cracked open yet someone who's been very reserved for a long, long time and then to try to get them to tell you a little bit about what they do would Tiger Woods be interesting in the way you've described to interview if he was going to be forthcoming on the cusp of tyrant. Sure. Anytime someone lifts the lid on the Ferrari, you know, you really wanna stare down into the engine and say, okay, well, how did that work? You know what really drove, you know, Serena Williams. I, I've Serena did a autobiography back in two thousand nine, but she was just becoming a great player in two thousand nine. And now she's an important player and as that's a big difference in, so I would be really interested in talking to her over the next couple of years as she winds down. Do you think. Every great player. It's an interesting distinction. Do think every great player longs to be an important player? Yes, absolutely. So some of them are more suited for than others. Chris Evert was a great player, became an important player in a very, very subtle way through the sheer unbroken grace of her conduct and her sort of ethic on the court became translated into a larger ethic. I think people found her and incredibly ethical champion and me. She gave back point once in a grand slam final when the chair per missed the call, she didn't want it. She gave it back to the opponent. She said, no, the ball was out that sort of thing. Whereas Billie Jean King and Martina Navratilova were important politically important. You know, Chris Evert wasn't political, but she was important in other ways. So they, you know, they all long for importance. They long to believe that what they're doing matters and is meaningful for something more than than ego. Everyone else. Yes. And it is important just sometimes not in the ways that they think my met note. I can say, you have already achieved importance. You're. Good greatness, but importance. The show. Thank you. So as I said, at the top of the show today's a very special day for me, it's a special anniversary. It's the one year to the day anniversary of my starting this podcast. And so you know, after I got fired as being with attorney wasn't sure what I would do. Next, I want to write this book and I wanted to continue having a voice on issues that I care about communicate with the public. Try my hand at something completely new in my brother gave me the opportunity to do it through his company, and we gave it a shot and a year ago to the day, I walked into an office with Leon Panetta, former secretary of defense and CIA director to see if we can have a conversation that anybody would want to listen to. And a year later, I can say, thank you to all of you for tuning in for staying tuned for paying attention. It's been an amazing twelve months. The podcast to me is not about educating other folks alone and explaining what. Going on in the world. It's also for me to understand and learn and grow and educate myself. The two things about this that have been the most gratifying have been won the opportunity to meet and talk to at some length. The most thoughtful interesting, caring intelligent people that you can find in basically any field having come on the show, the talk about what's going on in America because I think there's been no time as critical as now to try to make sense of what's going on. And the best moments that I've had on the podcast have been when I have learned along with you in. There are a lot of times when I'm asking against a question that I haven't thought of an advance. I just listened to what they're saying, and hopefully I'm asking the question that popped into your head when someone is talking about Muller or someone is talking about criminal Justice or someone is talking about how we deal with foreign policy or Russian intervention in the election. And so it has been, you know, an honor and pleasure for me to learn along with you. So from time to time. Read the reviews that we get. And sometimes people don't like some things on the show more often. I'm gratified to say people do like what the here on the show. I'm going to single out one. So on Twitter, not too long ago. Somebody somebody put out a request and said, you know who on here has helped you the most in processing Trumpism and dealing with friends, family who supported, I'm thinking in terms of emotional wellbeing, and then a person who I think I've answered a question from before cliff, Graham, hey, cliff, who's handle on Twitter's fish nerd, and you are de responded as follows. He writes, probably Preet Berrara for his super soothing delivery of informed righteous indignation. And then you're right, sounds contradictory, but it's a very real thing and we all here. You should know the team that works on. Stay tuned, laughed at that and appreciated it and realize we couldn't have put it any better ourselves. So we aspire to that. I swear to have a super soothing delivery. I aspire to be informed, and there are occasions when I feel righteous indignation. And that's maybe when the show is at its most compelling. The other thing I want to say is a thank you not just to the listeners who make this possible, but to the team, you know, at the end of the show every week I read off a list of names in the credits and you don't know who they are and you know how special they are, but there are a lot of people who make this worth. A lot of people who helped me sort of developed my voice people who helped me get the guests. People helped me sort through my thoughts over the week. People who are good at picking out the questions that I should answer. And so you know, when you hear the names at the end, make sure that you appreciate that none of this would be possible and. We would not be doing as well. If I didn't have the amazing team, both cafe and had pineapple street media, you know, one of the folks, the genius behind pineapple street media is max linski who comes off in the sitting here right now in the studio has no idea what about to say. Who has often said to me, reminded me on those moments that sort of behind schedule, and I'm not sure exactly what our core guest is going to be more we're going to talk about in max who is wise beyond his years, reminds me of something that I used to tell folks in my own office, but you sometimes forget make sure you're having fun. And some of the greatest moments that I hope to repeat going forward are not just in the studio, but during the live show and one of my finest memories because one of Max's fondest memories is sitting backstage at the Apollo theater before we were coming out with Bassim Yousef and we collected a bunch of questions from the audience that I was going to answer live in the moment and trying to think of what jokes on my tell might respond. And I'm sitting backstage at the world, famous Apollo theater with a bunch of friends there may or may not have been a beer involved. Thinking about jokes and thinking about how to answer your questions. And so I feel incredibly fortunate in life to be able to do something that's fun, informative, and then I get to learn from his well. So thank you for all that. But that's not the only Serie that I'm proud of in gratified to mention last week, Mark the eighteen month anniversary of my being fired from my office. And I don't say that to belabor the fact that I was fired, but to mention it also was the occasion last week of my hosting along with June, Kim. My successor is US attorney, our first annual alumni dinner. We a nice gathering of that two hundred of my former colleagues from the US attorney's office, and it was an evening of Kamata refund discussion. War stories, reliving old times, and there may or may not have been a beer involved. And you know, I told them that when I speak on the podcast, I speak of them often, I think of them often. And I just wanted to mention not only my thanks to the folks in the podcast into the listeners out there, but to the colleagues who helped make me who I am, who helped teach me what it means to be a public servant and without whom I wouldn't be here. So when you're as lucky guy is me from time to time, it's important to say, and I can do this because I have a studio microphone to be thankful. So whatever you guys are doing out there, remember be thankful for what you have thankful for the people who listen to you, even if you don't have a podcast and thankful that you can have fun doing what you're doing. I feel very lucky. Well, that's it for this episode of stay tuned. Thanks again to my guest, Sally Jenkins if you like the show rate and review it on apple podcasts, every positive review helps you listeners find the show. Here's one from Ken Cosgrove. He calls the show, quote, a common sense approach slash analysis to our current political dumpster fire and Gina, Gina Smith, yes to genus says, I had no idea comic sans was on. Cool. Thanks for that. News you can use folks. Send me your questions about news and politics. Tweet them to me at pre Perahera with the hashtag, ask pre or give me a call at six, six nine two, four, seven, seven, three, three eight. That's six, six, nine, two, four Prete or you can send me an Email to stay tuned cafe dot com. 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Jamie Conlan 'Golden Contract' special

Ringside Toe2Toe Boxing Podcast

57:28 min | 1 year ago

Jamie Conlan 'Golden Contract' special

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If you haven't actually been here because this is used as the backdrop for every boxing scene you will see last night mark on the game thing because when you look at careers you look at look abouts but it's all you look at you look my main set I was very content with whatever achieved in the sport and there was no reason to keep on going if I wasn't able to be the best we'll famous surroundings of the rented boxing club the Bath House in in Bethnal Green Ulysses this place in countless Oh haas very good fighter data go your way we haven't seen you since then so maybe still a license for example like I can facially say I'm retired at the minute I retired rate Nash have been for nearly two years I think yeah coming up in November did nate do people remember his or her fights people remember their fights people remember your fights I remember a couple of particular vividly the ones against Antony the tasks at hand arrange money's Mu failures looking to move motors day to day things just be crazy on Friday at your call and joining me for the podcast Jamie Coleman for Commonwealth super flyweight champion and works we work on things for me it was always a boat that hired to Marauder just broad your way through a wind hired ask speaking with TV comedies speaking within the team looking to sign him failures nurturing faded had to progress them stuff like this it it it's went for I'm transitioning from being a fighter to do something else because you haven't officially hung the gloves up say you're a couple of world champion boxer we'll talk to you and I I would have went through and thirteen we camp we'd have brought in quality operators and never once withstand and have a trade off bro Inspire trampled above and beyond the why they faced a facially where was beginning to do at the start was which is look after my brother is it is it helped touch from for it actually series of top boy and there's a box succeed in that they use a bath house and the reason we're here is for the drawer for MT K. 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wouldn't be much involved he lets me crack on mistakes I make after learn have to grow whatever but he in terms of the boxing Maine's just rip myself to shreds my father used to rip the after refit in the room he would be he left my career be was something that I had Saturday to be the chief my goal my dream but was very happy very very content with with higher I left am comfortable because when we were training I would have been very one main just constantly on what I had to do typewritten technically everything he's the best coach in the word because I listened to him on a daily basis and listen to stories with the boxes Michael about about watching you box two or three times and it just kind of role is is exactly but he just decided me happens to him because he can really come box he's done it to me it's done it to me inspiring and he's a good technical fights then on the night he just into the gym the departments work and that was what was I was there for training and I was third get on so every day was Gruden I knew had to be make every day as hard rian eat sleep back we lived in I lived in Marbella basically for three years I never seen an eight club or a bar Amorebieta I never left the WHO said when the gym to the apartment sometimes some happen and I would know the term and say I have more and save me than he sang GonNa take him where he is uncomfortable ripped me to shreds after everything every like everyone cheer and then going crazy heart grade and he would be sitting istamic nuts between the newseum jim and Jesuit Ronin he's not part of my camp I was it was my camp wherever they stay in the comfortable being uncomfortable comfortable in the Reagan and me was was talking to a mathematically about this and that's the exact phrase us he does his thing and he can get his head around it but interesting thing you said there about about the way you trains and guessing yourself to a place where you were can do there's certain things you never know that she actually haven't it comes on and guts whatever you WANNA call it that's one thing and it's just hitting a wall between stuck between a hard place Reverend Harper had them that way instead of using my own attributes news you have to get comfortable being uncomfortable and if you look at your opponent and you just think I can handle this I don't think you can that's that's why up doing it by the sound of it lets you every boxer no modern will never admit it but they don't their abilities they did what they have they in Poland Meean Meer Coroner's don't put me through this this is why you had to do what the Hell Planet I want to just one I've got ten stitches in one they are and their career is important to you is to them and that the probably aren't enough hours in the day for that but at least apartment does this and I needed the instead of waiting on Jessica on back I wish I would have done Ni- like a normal myself A. and noses are fierce ends of legacy but at one that's all modern but the him it wasn't you'll probably the same actually I remember to okay some advantage so stuff like it when I look back and go why did I mean comes to and I never can really sit and watch myself unless myself because I would oster but in my main I have to change something to make me think and believe that I can still be you know federally was in thinking the otherwise professional athlete you do have to be really selfish it's just how it is when you managing fighters you have to make everyone as them feel like are we prepared and campaign hurry Jasdaq and Susan this competition he can move I brought Ram fry over I martin partner and Jazzy came with him so how'd you find it handling fighters now then because as you said when you all to you all the sensor of your own world I will rule wrapped up on her own stuff there's no point she's and with the Olympic team and I called myself listen I should listen to him were when I was when I was fading but because it's your father you push against and he you'll notice that they can beat anyone and they are the best so yes I understand where they're coming from I understand that aspect the ball I have to take responsibility for my own actions and throughout the course of the Pan weeks every action that I that I take has to be owned up to myself in the being delivered because we're going to fade into the window probably you you you're bigger than me you probably stronger probably the understand they sacked an opponent but I always relied on one saying do how did I relied on it and I can remember vividly and the fate of Cardoza that was at least you understand I can understand what they're all every boxer hey think the little is the wrong word but that they must have an aspect of attention but also being real with them I think is is is is the biggest aspect that can renewed with them because I've been in where I can relate on a lot of aspects it is hard because some pants they're not the same main failure that everyone is different and you know once you realize you have it I want it all the time and I relied on too much I could have my job was very good I I knew good ring I q I think that the guy who's fading phone faith at six thirty in the eighth it's his nate not the men events you know so given him that that payment Norman I would've done not main side of trained in Maine said I had to get up and leave Chelsea and upset and Whitney say department and in Roaster Marbella he got sunburn. I'm going to do this but it's it's nice you have to honestly think you will come from Miami has boxer isn't going to having been through the career you've had yourself you just confident you've seen enough that you will make the right cool well that's it maybe next time and we'll push for you invest so I think I think it's very easy for me to relate with them but a teams it's a Assan shook because because he can let although I did leave the back door open for the commend never checked it so I do blame him on that came to main set where it's just one so onto the tournament then because they must've been a fairly easy sell for the fighters involved in it because tournament boxing as chances opportunities being from from from worst worst places than they have been that I can try and do what's best for them it's I got on the teens my main set everything she instant it old it all spawned between and for ten fakes he's going to somewhere during the name look for money back and old maids immoral friends at this moment and pain but that they've met date you bowl waistcoat doubts you've always got people wanting things to go wrong for for whatever selfish reasons but it's been a success and they says Taliban is coming from being in their position now heaven probably at the start of my career to rape rates similar kind of setup and the beauty for the fighters as the if they keep winning that fight they know what they're doing for the next nine and what's best for him does it and they just have to trust that you will know what to do in given situations nobody's Maine it's me it's like if I lose an adjusted Dickens MIS- mis- mis- mis- announce companyman it's not football that come and eleven months frady's card very rarely you turn on the TV and you see four fates enjoyable to break through beat other failures of the same caliber as you it's a big risk and yes it is for for us for for the public for fans color gets built up by anti-gay he's a month in Spin Carlos Ramos is getting built by my rare via he's the mom for always say a manager and promoter necessary can't be friends but they can't because conflict of interest your managed the promoters hard lane caning but this is the way it's hopper are sometimes you have to gain a poop you're moving the shooter and this not the same with your getting opportunity instead he's putting himself on the lane and the competition against other other favors here to seem standard caliber if not better than him station I've been foreign fater at six o'clock I've been the foreign fighter Satan one o'clock so that's Qena nominee is going to shift so we have to be always looking I I figure I I and that's where being a failure coming from where failures serious conflict of interest that certainly detainment and we kind of always been the same because in the end of the day if the most motor has given your fater a hundred hello everyone had half the adopt and be the monfort damage that ratepayer or sometimes you have to be very straightforward and blunt and sable wins all to take a risk and opportunity to propeller career to the next level to break through that stage of infringe and people will look at that and they will expect him to win this competition probably looking from the outside Justice Dick Challenge for a world title though leewards another Pfizer people overdue alternate was best for the promotion the minds are has to do with ultimately what's best for the failure so yes we can be friends but we are going to have who people won't know as much about how on soccer Asu say with whole hey rubio just walked in undefeated Cuban fighter now based in Miami that's US and quality operators going against I'm proven but we always wanted to know pace the best interesting thing you said that because yeah well Commonwealth champion Daviel of Joyce sorrow McCullough very good amasis Jewish was an Olympian undefeated. Then you've got the three other lads a moral debate with myself because they aren't me they don't have the same main the main set his adds some do some don't but I have to adjust the term McCullough is an operative by accompanied him they have the thing you have to change their main said to be one track made the day believe so self absorbed and and go around and build their fater he could probably get the money and a few fates but if he builds Peyton guys who knows is going to beat beat SPEC- level failures probably you would you like to be the one on the done but everyone in their own rate even we over here are thinking Welsh and it's sexy it's sales it's invading it's intriguing ah for a failure and a camp not necessarily they can Sergio Martinez European Union champion does something to something to sell all of these lads if we would g Roz yes they entrances any competition they're coming at it from different angles on you look a lot Ron Walsh British champion long raining an every fate all it competitors are ase eight failures you know you have jazz dickens is a Naysayer Federal Anti Keisha when he was to be a mom hey a welsh or a dickens coming into this would you rather be one of the Fox is on the down we don't know too much about laureate does a bit of a mystique about about Cubans Araujo an Ramos as you said ramesses this is this is the way it is we're all we all have our own our own rate and our own Saturday we're looking at Ram Welsh that hasn't happened hidden some diamonds in the rough and this competition can probably Shane Shane one or two lights on on on future stars and hopefully we'll we'll see some fantastic fates I think you're right about that because you look even walsh rainy British champion e has eighteen he's very good and then he goes along some some people just don't get the Brixton get the opportunity stirs loads of under under underground town I'm pretty easy just with the job basically moving and then one of my main clicked I want this this and we had a really hard and all Sergio Martinez in there they were building they believe shared the car with the Mass Nathan they believe they're picking it opponents opponents so yes it's it's it's very good for us because we're getting the we're getting to see a say vader's face each other I'm we're getting to see quality fades AH years the baton fever but soccer was was matched with Sugar Stevenson recently until he pulled live but it involves a minute because a will boxy percentages done well the first seasons and I think everybody cares about the sport that's been really pleased to see it do well an McCullough because they they've got that kind of storied Irish amateur backgrounds and they very much have been really white Christopol expect you to say right this fight and then in four months will have that one and then he's GonNa fight him and he'll win so we'll take the winner that's that's not how this works the come off you've championships poon I think it was in India and jazz the Dickens but look phenomenon allergies case fourteen it has been around for he's probably the most expensive the whole the whole he's been around these mixed high level of Lee sale but he's mixed lower level speeches stylistically probably all wrong for everyone he's all wrong what he does is all wrong you broaden the box he moves he he way he moves is like Bambi legs but he wins fates wins ugly but he wins fates and who'll now is looking like he can he can box at world level before too long years of very advisor to the Irish fighters interest me Joycean Breath K. Swiss flat shoes and add a KFC that morning and came third with other legitimate runners is he move so much he throws punches all wrong everything he does is wrong but works and it works for him and it has done through his amateur days it moves and he scores shots over ten twelve runs really fit I think he he run a half marathon are Martin and a pair of Tennyson is done well on sky sports just for some reason the end in the boxing community people always read a jazz I remember member how the exposure that he feels that he's the east deserved Jasser three defeats against Rick on though Kate Galahad and Tommy Ward the reward is is huge what they get is massive but they're all bringing something into tennis tournament tournament and making it a bit more special if if he walked into the Repton armature boxing club tonight David Public Fellow he stands funny he bounces around he was probably one of the Golden Boys about I'm boxing common three hundred concessional term McCullough beat him and this is what does if you watch them from the opportunity to show people what they can do because they were very much into the bracket of that who needs him fighters in a way because I look at the problem he's aren't triple g canal level whose names these are candidates under the radar who on the bucks seen are known the likes of her highly they they saw they saw they see so Karasin in states that are going to Mr curious themes in his career before he fades for word pain nobody knows who they're fighting until fight week and the drawer is totally totally random we'll have full fighters will just pulls out of a hat and they will have the right to Oh sorry for the winner it's a six figure contract with a major promoter as yet to be named this is that correct that's correct yeah and for disconnect he wouldn't necessarily get an opportunity if they didn't have this complication stayed Cana- guys like this jump in it but ran excetera they have a bit more to lose I think they have the bring very rarely you see accomp- computation former British so we're going to get into the chance to financially secure their family for a for the future this reasons for for two boxers here is big come Peyton numerous main or trinkets all getting put in your these are all risking something else not just which position is the most dominant position it's difficult because if you if you pick the ball out that means that you choose I so basically what's going to happen is the God love him but if your him if you will that person who's above them you not gonna find either of that unless you have to in this tournament someone's have someone has to so then choose but going into the week nobody knows does that does that give any kind of advantage you think to people with with a big we go super lightweight and light heavyweights in golden contract as well this season and the draw be taking place it's a little bit later on and what's interesting about that too is that so background because you're more used to that but I don't know they're all professionals now it's the same for everybody maybe what position would hi I'm Walt Steve Over Joyce and they see weaknesses in them and they are gone he'll diaz bookies not necessarily but what comes after that is even bigger they're going to be getting a contract with with opportunities upon opportunities that are going to get in a big brick they're going to be getting the chance to be owns and it's going to be a nightmare for anyone as you said is who needs in Canada because if you get nothing from beating him but these opportunities for and whilst Dickinson Emily would come through these are known good failures but they just haven't broke that household name after this they will be talknet comes to you and and it is made for you I'm not really sure to be honest I'm really sure which is the better position to be in you just don't know exactly I think for me nor myself a normal when I'm fading elected to be the what extent g think Pfizer's have talked about who they would and wouldn't choose because it's really real point will you get to choose if you pick a red bull you go into the sexual way you can be chosen so if you pick bull see one that means that you choose I it'll be washes on on the stream but what's going to happen is the eight fighters will each kickable out of a bag and if you pick a blue pool their full bleed bills full Rad if you pick a blooper it the creator of my own destiny so I would like to beat number one the Okay I came to choose I chose this each of the across the wrangling himself because the Spanish last name or watched them go on Eastbourne he's perfect for us and GonNa Miss Guy He's all wrong for gay but affairs of course no stylistically he's already for me he's all wrong for me I can still win they're not thinking I can he'll beat me but they know I prefer him over him himself as the Weakest Link so he will have Dan an emotional connection and we'll transfer point the main game start today I ball I'd I'd prefer to be radical at preferred not to choose why says I prefer them pick me I think is the most dominant position to be would you like to be the first ball the draw but you don't you're actually GONNA pick you're not picking from seven others you only pick him from four others this is this is something different it's what makes it unique it's not like the world boxing super serious it was done a few weeks ago when they've had ah to how you like to to build yourself because let's say I picked you you might look at me and just say what you picking me so that that gives me definitely because I was set on that you want the first pick also economy depends on what you like sort of mental four people lined up in front but then it's the agony of choices if you've got see full then essentially you don't choose because it'll be one or two left or whatever something like this are you getting your neck on all Champions League draw Celtic partially that is don't people will use boxer eagle maniacs someone not some people I think everything the person that gets picked I will see the professional days and him and Devour Joyce history I think the fought me twice tarum winning both I'm Wendy was at his peak in them which again at the it'd be Juhani think was his his winded got three time but he bucks Berlin juon thinks he's they all think they're gonNa Command and just take a minute welcome everyone see ringside toe to toe boxing podcast brought to you exclusively by Sky Sports on the clock and today we are in the get out of my control right let me fading on Friday no matter what doesn't have prepared for each and every theater so it makes no difference who who's that in the grocery for me God you you're you're you're in no matter what so just appointed me today because I want to get the and you're probably watching the show the public what does he do he's probably throwing punches at one time not arms and then but he does it in a way where you go you're hormones are everywhere there don't know what they're what they're really want they just want they wanna fade someone so when this happens and someone is challenged because we've got soccer us in hey we got Carlos Ramps David Joyce just walked in and fights is with that quite comfortable around each other at the moment because nobody knows like an opportunity I'd probably pick him but no one really there's there's no Gimme you go you can if a cop drawn and united draw Brentwood you know and you can build yourself up on you can you can feed yourself you'll yourself that way you can you know the next few days ago he picked me he thinks he can beat me I'll day pick me recent prepare for pain the per per for the opponent this Qena fate week when they're already on it in your Eagle Eh kitchen aid said look a main set of a failure well it's just interesting what Mariah today ups in both of those two division simpsom again it's the same kind of thing it's it's a selection fighters some of whom have had a taste and what think that will change fairly fairly swiftly as I said we got the super lightweight suit lot heavyweights coming coming later in the season two and this really interesting potential match offered ever do meet he has what it takes to go to the deep waters and hold it together when there as well because I think what one in the fight was the fight so you are you're standing in the middle of the furnace and he still had enough about him to just keep that technique together make a little bit of room and you're breathing you're breathing heavy you're uncomfortable you're a tiredness shows different state of a month when you're fatigued and it makes things more intriguing but also annoying if spence and terms Crawford donate after my brother Card from potty barnes term McCullough through mechanic and stuff like this but as an K. as a whole I think we're over one hundred looking after the one guy or a foe botch you've got able at the minute I'm only looking after my own section group of failures I've got sixteen Indian yes it is very hard to keep track but every day we are continuing to grow and and gather more momentum and and more failures are seeing that opportunities that we can prevent it was easy few just all right let's check yours off and let's let's see let's say about yours and win the fight that way what was brilliant about down and what was so impressive about the knockdown was the he's right there in the pocket write-up close they're almost shoulder to show a lot they had been the whole stay was the porter check spence and he passed and Portico probably say halfway through the fight did he passing and they just made brilliant spectacle crackers and I didn't think it was going to be like that I for some reason I read spent quite difficult to keep track of it all for you yeah we'll look enough we came to Brooklyn the different sections so you're not just I think that reports of Colossians demise have been somewhat exaggerated do you think he is slipping because east very highly I thought he was going to dominate porter showed a different say dispense you know that we hadn't seen before he took in the places probably w have hasn't been before all the way you see a difference eight of a mom you see these as truly in deepens edem spence should it showed us something there that fm I think sheep when you look at look at the league failures the best there is no matter how uncomfortable they are no matter how tougher fate is getting eighty seven and he is one hundred percent clean athletes so you physically you're going to deteriorate as you get as you get older unless you're taking performance enhancing drugs surly also Sunday morning it would have been shown here between our Spence Sean Poulter and what was great about that fight and I don't think anybody scale and all the speed and we take all these boxes the punch par but when someone puts it on your lake that you don't know what you don't know till but he's only been beaten by Canal Oh and that was extremely debatable so econo- fallen that far Kelly what we've seen a different spence and he's one maverick and I read him even more because we can have all the count and lost his position as composer for Spence even at the fate he kept his sheep figuring reputation Hepburn reputation and children in the right position to get the keep their sheep you've seen porter at that pain when he got dropped he was ragged throwing a punch like he was oda she has she was gone he was hit doc the golden contract is is part of discovery autumn Chateau which is just bursting at the seams with with big fights we had an absolute belter on on Saturday Bridge to get the Nocturne that's Alexis Sugar Ray Leonard ship never never went away when he was tired whenever he always kept his sheep but he's got experience under his belt now and I think in his camp they will be telling him they will be telling themselves that he's ready and that he got this weekend another thought which I think he'll be really interesting between Gulf keen interest Theun cheng-kuo always just writing the the notes for it yesterday and you're done do things that Mackay's Moser to win the the macho necessarily egos when do patterns takes out all away exhaustion things in tough tough fates but everyone's pain we all have a o'clock in this sport and in any sport make previously you probably can't but it stains make fates you know thirty seven years of age he takes a lot of punches getting Gulf Kane at the right time something that would seem fairly unthinkable the fat long ago so I think he's belief belief will be so you believe there the to the best of the Vision Spence from our Port Crawford for me is number two pound for pound behind Lama Changle we knew this about porter porter wanted to test this about spence you were saying earlier about how because you knew you had it I that's like that Gut Steinhardt faith even though Donald Jacobs done number under a tangle I think this probably be close quarters and maybe a triple g stoppage later on truly founded because we're only we're only using the measures against canal and we're talking about sheep canal keeps his ship you know he he's a world-class leap as canal was always going to be a tough afer stairways billy do saunders all wrong for him but Durban Changle Steinway's more than likely will suit them and will be very excited he's not tiny bit more quality that he's got the poor to maybe that want him to five it was close wasn't it you hit on it there was was actually told me that this guy was severely sector for WSB and then I think they had near a full squad for WSB thank them as John and maybe Kazakhstan had scored set for W ESPN ABC alone and letter so I think that fought against Jacobs Reverent Janko was was was kate obviously wanted to win it for the title and it was close one of the best paper in the word hi can you truly judge them on on on that that alone stylistically you start to see is the theory too and and if you really wanNA thing thing to flaws or mistakes that he's making neither it needs to be because not that long ago fighting glove can people just did not believe that they could probably have more belief than I than they ever did because you know we have a clock clock going to run triple g seems the kids needed and everyone else's he's able to burn Hopkins Lear even the interstate WSB and it was brilliant brilliant become and the fast train he had an open boxing so we'll championships and Olympics three three so this guy is an alum here to one once he had he knew instead took a step it was like he hits you once but he can I don't think he's Tyrian as much as they are saying is obviously each with so no mom but these kanus steady the the media controls the masses and the media's telling the people that triple team is on the slave is busy not we're really I think that sounds right and it's interesting how things it's interesting how things change because they be choices in in the golden contract a mental to Conrad Cummings about him and he said he was unbelievably good and that's where I I saw him in a new maybe I'd seen in the and oh it's a big void Phil when you look when you look at any any amateur squads you go mad man awards go completely turnover by points deductions which which which ruled him out he makes his pro debut on the weekend actually which is really interesting on the undercover Eh Derby and changle probably says you seek me more than Daniel Jacobs is GonNa take me because you're going to stand in the way of me a lot more I think I remember him in the well I think Tom stalkers the international scout isn't the only really puts the Somalis in but it was an interesting one for England interesting one for Ireland too because I think for the first time in a while to would know do we know medalists since before Beijing I don't know how much of that you will have seen no empty care across the the big amateurs national tournaments because you look into pick up the cup and he could fight so who's going to Darioush Amateur high-performance team he he never trine the way Mako Katie and Padron lizzy can you so have you tried to heal coffee for five six seven shots he knew he gets over five ruins he was hard to stick couldn't keep off very strong physically originates eight or inside his ships seem the the grits will have a great night there were there were some really interesting other fights on the car does well and we got another one is it just a case of everything goes in cycles transition period it's a young squad Joe Joe Ward is just turned professional that's what they're judging them off their fate and canal we have yet to see you back to Calbert Phaetons is this is where we let me look old and all that unbelievable upper body movement and use of reflexes only won't fight but it just looked like things might be gays and he's been pulled line unbeatable when he house lost the decisions have been debatable but it looks old compensated on this final and for the first time it just it just collapsed around the team really and how'd you see the kind of our setup at the minute and with a bit of professional school also go yeah let's let's have a quick just have a quick call in about the recent world championships he's Chitral ahead of it so he just books WSB for Four Seasons and books about twenty twenty five fights and then he came out in Las Wall Realistically Muratov Mongolian probably was was wrong wrong tactics on the day are wrong performance on the day he beat in another chemistry is one of the hardest tournaments in the word of the majors so yeah it's not it's not nothing to be sniffed up but another small triple J potty poems was dead at the white by the time he got that people were saying it sounds like an excuse but it was true Katie Taylor got a bad decision you'll brother as we know same kind of thing uh this Saco devoid Sekou was probably built a we'd better run Julie Jordan Fidis ethos in Code Khalil and European Chemistry Chemistry Cup he knocked I think he got a Olympic style boxing squad continued to go around the world with a either so it was it was I think I've seen 'em fake potty gallagher and I just went burt the first fates you're going there they're only going through the motions they seem to turn it on as it was on the heat is considered emotions but he never turned it on tournament but something didn't seem right with him throughout the competition there and usually when you watch Cuban and as Tom back to the the amateurs it's definitely a transition period for for Pretty Irish team Kurt Walker is equality operator he was he was in Rio and Rio for the Irish team. 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ESPNs Don Van Natta and Chelsea Janes of The Washington Post

"Gentlemen gentlemen got everybody. This is richard doctrine. Welcome sports media podcast producers patrick antonetti today <hes> two guests to really interesting people in <hes>. The sort of the coverage of sports and news for stuff is e._s._p._n.'s don van natta. He is an investigative reporter for e._s._p._n. Work appeared across that companies platforms. You've certainly read his stuff. I am sure if you're a sports fan on the n._f._l. He has a new docu. He's series called backstory which debuts on august eighteenth. It's an in depth look on some of the more controversial things in sports. This first one is serena versus the empire and that is about the serena williams naomi soccer match at the u._s. Open where things went haywire for everybody he followed by chelsea genes of the washington post host she in january moved from a covering the washington nationals as their longtime beat reporter to covering the twenty twenty presidential campaign pain and so <hes> we talked to chelsea about how that transition has been and she has made one of the more interesting moves i think in sort of sports journalism going from covering the nationals to covering the kamala harris campaigns. I don van natta then chelsea. Jane's on the sports media podcast don van natta is an investigative reporter whose he's work appears across the e._s._p._n. Platforms including outside the line e._s._p._n. Dot com for the purposes of this podcast. He is the host of the new docu series series backstory whose debut episode serena versity umpire launches sunday august eighteenth at one p._m. Eastern eastern one thirty pacific on a._b._c. with multiple rears following across e._s._p._n. Networks it's like i've joined the e._s._p._n. P._r. team don van natta data and don van. Natta joins me on the sports media podcast don welcome. Thank you richard great to be with you. It's a long time coming down. I think we've talked about this for a long time on. We'd have for years for years before we get to back story. I want to start here. How would you compare covering counterterrorism prism campaign finance abuses and the phone hacking scandal at rupert murdoch's news of the world in london the covering n._f._l. Owners i i think that those stories and covering the white house and the pentagon everything i did at the new york times investigative reporter for sixteen years was the perfect preparation for covering one of the most secretive organizations in america the national football league. I mean i think it was the perfect preparation <hes> doing what i did covering news covering all those very difficult secret organizations in the united states to cover what i believe is is one of the most secretive and one of the most difficult to cover auburn. That's the n._f._l. So now i mean obviously i asked that tongue in cheek but now i wanna get serious what makes the n._f._l. So difficult to cover in in terms of really the n._f._l. Is not difficult to cover. I think in terms of the transactional what we see on the field but in terms of the kind of reporting that you've done what happens happens in the boardroom what happens at the highest finance level of that league. Why is it so difficult because the owners are a very elite secretive creative club. They call themselves a membership for reason. These are thirty two billionaires thirty one billionaires of course on the packers who <hes> conduct all their business. Is this behind closed doors. They're real business. There's clicks. There's arguments. There's <hes> scores to settle that. They don't want the public to know about about <hes> and it was my job. It's still is my job at e._s._p._n. To try to dig into that and tell those stories <hes> i've had a lot of help nope <hes> teamed up for years with wicker sham who's really come into his own as a terrific investigative reporter in his own right and it was our job to find <music> out what happened behind those closed doors on sensitive topics like you know the national anthem controversy in two thousand seventeen is an example and i think that autumn search and i were able to really tell readers and the public a lot of what was going behind closed doors which the n._f._l. Doesn't want people to know about so. I've always seen that as my job richard <hes> from the very beginning since i was at the miami herald as a cub reporter coming up but as an investigative reporter it's my job to try to tell people things that they don't want the public to know and that <hes> is tested constantly trying to cover the board room and and the owners in the national football league. This is something that we've talked about a lot sort of as the kids would say off line and that's e._s._p._n. Commitment to journalism as the company has forward. You are probably about not as good a <hes>. I would say zealot zealot for e._s._p._n. In terms of the belief that the company is going to continue to invest resources in covering things. I'm not just talking about again sort of <hes> the day to day stuff e._s._p._n. Will always cover that but the kind of stories that really <hes> they're really have impact but more importantly counter to the partnerships that e._s._p._n. Has with these leaks and that's the kind of stuff concussions in the n._f._l. N._f._l. the kind of stuff <hes> like you mentioned sort of what the owners are doing. I'll ask you direct. Why do you believe e._s._p._n. Is still committed to journalism some full stop in two thousand nineteen because i believe there is a full commitment to journalism jimmy petar. Oh has made that commitment. <hes> and connor shell ahead of content is made that commitment. We have christopher buckle. Who's the head of our investigative team is. I i believe one of the best investigative editors in the country. I've worked for him. Since two thousand twelve we have an amazing team talent <hes> aggressive reporters and journalists who want to get the truth and we're gonna continue to. Do you know what we've always done richard. You know we've talked about this off line. Is you've said when i joined e._s._p._n. In in two thousand twelve after being the new york times for sixteen years i asked a lot of questions of the executives of whether i was going to be giving free rein to look deeply bleed into the business partners of the network. I was given that assurance at the time by john skipper john walsh. Those two guys aren't here. They've they've been replaced but the people who place them believe just as deeply in our commitment to investigative reporting the resources there think about this richard the the resources the e._s._p._n. As are extraordinary that they devote to investigative reporting you know the team of reporters that just won a peabody award and did the incredible reporting on michigan state and that entire scandal <hes> they worked on that you know paula levine and and the team that did that john bar my a college that did incredible work. There's many others <hes> that was a one to two year commitment on that story that pay dividends for viewers and readers and i believe we're going to continue to do that and you're gonna see. There's a lot of incredible work. That's in the works right now. That'll be coming out in the coming weeks and months and <hes> and so i believe that commitment has not wavered lever one bit <hes> from the moment i stepped into the network at two in two thousand twelve or we're gonna get back to that <hes> but i want to get to your new docu series which i know you really excited about. I saw the first episode which i really really light obviously covered tennis sports illustrated for a long long time so i'm invested in sport and serena umpire the in this case carlos rama's the famous match now now. We have soccer serena williams at the u._s. Open the final was really really fascinating rather than me. Describe what this is don. I will let you describe this for my listeners sinners. How would you describe backstory. What is it backstory is the looking behind the scenes and trying to explore the story behind the story. You think you already know <hes> it really is an attempt in one hour of television in a documentary style style film to go back to a story either sports controversy or a sports scandal and from fresh reporting really through journalism. Listen journey that i go on try to find out new information fresh context to give you a much deeper perspective on something thing that happened that you may have made up your mind about in a matter of moments like <hes> the us women's open last year. I mean that blew up on social media. You know and people got silos very quickly in either took. The side of serena williams took decided chair on for a chair umpire carlos ramos very quickly. <hes> you've seen seen the episode what we attempted to do in this premiere episode of backstory is to really slow everything down and give you the back story of the empire talked a little bit about serena's back restoring what she brought that day to that court with her history at the u._s. open she had three different clashes with chair umpires or or lines people bull that was in her head and she made reference to it as she was clashing with ramos during those three code violations and just really slow stories down. There's not enough of that kind of reporting and i'm lucky <hes> richard and why i'm so thrilled about backstory be given the time and the resources we have five episodes. Were doing in the first. I season backstory. This is the first <hes> to really delve deeply and give viewers <hes> what i hope is new information and fresh perspective and insight into these stories. They think they already know all right dan. Your first episode is tennis starts with serena. Williams carlos rama's as much as many of us love tennis. They're certainly bigger bigger sports to consider whether it's the n._f._l. College football to really maybe give your first episode that much more viewership potential with <hes> <hes> sport that just basically draws more people in what was your thought process in terms of starting with serena versus another story well really with timing <hes> we're coming up on the one year anniversary of the match and he had this episode ready wanted to be <hes> you know times to the one on your anniversary of what was the ugliest finished in grand slam history as scott price of sports illustrated says in the episode <hes> we have four other episodes that we've been reporting since late last fall shortly after the first season of backstory got green lit by connor shell <hes> and <hes> we're looking forward to who <hes> those coming out later this year and early next year but really richard it was just a matter of time tag that we wanted to hit and have this episode so ready and out of before the one year anniversary of lectures u._s. open so you mentioned on this five episodes will they be running <hes> in consecutive weeks starting with sunday august eighteenth. No not not not anywhere close to that the next episode <hes> is the banning of shoeless joe so we're going going back to the black sox scandal its one hundredth anniversary of that of course this year and we're drawing a through line between shoeless joe what happened with the black expect scandal and the banning of pete rose seventy years later all the way to twenty nineteen and major league baseball embrace of legalized gambling and i'm really excited. I did about that episode. Nearly all the interviews are done. We we've got the script. We're putting it together that <hes> episode will debut on october thirteenth also oh on a._b._c. and then go <hes> now in time for the world series and then be available on the e._s._p._n. Platforms and rear a bunch of rears on e._s._p._n. The third episode will be early next year. That'll be cat fishing of anti tale <hes> initially was going to be our first episode but is now our third episode and that'll i'm out early next year. I don't have the date for that and then we have two other episodes richard. We haven't announced what those subjects are but they'll air <hes> in twenty twenty don. How do you know when the show's over. How do you know when the investigation for the show is done. You never know and i'm and i and i still been doing reporting. We're locking down sunday's episode episode. Its debut on a._b._c. on sunday tomorrow night and i was still reporting yesterday. <hes> i any investigative investigative story. I've ever done richard in my career. I'm always reporting and gathering information up until the last possible moment to make it as complete as possible and that hasn't changed for backstory so the episode will come out and i may get new information here things in wish that it could have had that in the fifty one and a half minutes of our first backstory. You never really no and you're never really satisfied always feel there's another phone call. You can make another email. You can send another texas. You can send to try to get another piece of information to give a fuller picture sure <hes> of a complicated story one of the things that struck me was. There's a lot of e._s._p._n. People who are interviewed for the serena arena one and that might be a product of tennis whether it's pam shriver chris everett those are obviously prominent tennis people who were calling the match a couple of people <hes> clinton clinton yates from the undefeated it do you are you have been given a charter to use e._s._p._n. People when it comes to either bueller interviews or was it just the case in this one because it's tennis and because e._s._p._n. Owns the rights to the majors. I i think it's more the latter richard. I think it's the fact that e._s._p._n. The broadcast of the women's final at the u._s. open last year. We ah we have the right <hes> and <hes> obviously getting chrissy ever to sit down and pam shriver chrissy called the match. Pam was the courtside reporter. There are a couple of other e._s._p._n. People that i interviewed i really wanted to hear clinton gates his voice. He's somebody i've gotten to know well. He's a holly we've been on outside the lines friday four for together frequently and i. I wanted to get his perspective but i but there will be s._p._n. People i think in future episodes <hes> particularly when we're dealing for instance like with the man sai tau scandal e._s._p._n. Covered that so <hes> and <hes> and and basically it got hoodwinked by that irresistible resistible story in the autumn of twenty twelve in the same way that sports illustrated did and the rest of the media so we're going to have to we'll have to wrestle with that and i think we bill s._p._n. Folks that way but i don't see the show. I want to be really clear. I don't see the shona serves an ombudsman type show or looking completely at the way. The media covers covers it. I think there'll be a little bit of that but i'm also interested as much as we can get the protagonist who are involved in these stories to talk as well and we've had some success <hes> these upcoming episode to get those folks to sit down with us on camera as well but as you know richard. I'm not an access journalist. I've i've kind of pride myself of being able to get a story even if the people that i'm writing about. Don't talk to me when i did the profile in twenty thirteen roger goodell the n._f._l. Commissioner i asked him to sit down and be five separate times of that profile profile said no every time and i still think i came up with a pretty comprehensive deep dive look at goodell <hes> as a leader of the n._f._l. All in that in that moment so that same sort of <hes> ethos he's got. I think animating backstory serena williams didn't sit down with us for this episode nordic order carlos ramos the chair umpire <hes> we didn't see that as a make or break decision or whether we were going to do this story we did it anyway and i think as viewers will find out we assigned out a lot <hes> about both of them and how they approach that match and also <hes> how the aftermath occurred an and how both of them dealt with the aftermath aftermath of the matches well don. I wanna go. I wanna do a number of different subjects. Here will sort of <hes>. There's there's gonna be no rhyme or reason to these. These questions are going to cover a lot of different topics. <hes> fat a couple of pulitzer prize winners including yourself on this podcast. I wanna take advantage of that because they certainly a lot of young people who who listen to this <hes> as a general overview questioned on what are the most important traits. It's a sports reporter can or should have and why <hes> i think now it's a willingness to <hes>. Take on on any task and to try to be as good as you can possibly be <hes> on multiple platforms and have an ability to sort of take it when you need to pivot <hes> the media is changing so rapidly. I started in nineteen eighty seven at the miami herald <hes>. I'm an old print guy. Hi <hes> it's a completely different business from when i started and you have to have <hes> the willingness and the openness to <hes> doing as many things as possible taking as many things on it and he's richard. Is you know in this business. It's all about reps. It's all about <hes> getting the experience agreeance <hes> to really stand out and just try to find your voice and so i think the most important skill and i talked to college. Students often is to <hes> try as many things as possible be willing if you get hired for one particular job. There's another opportunity to do something. That's maybe a maybe a little bit. <hes> not in in your lane and maybe something that scares me a little better you don't have much experience but you see it possibly as a as a good way <hes> or a fast faster ester pathway for a future where you know you're going to keep your job is of course that's very important to such a perilous time in the industry to be able to do that. How do you get better it. Asking questions you listen the the most important thing for an interviewer's listen. Listen carefully not just listen put watch watch cues physical cues <hes> and uncomfortable moment <hes> you know reading between the lines often of what the person you're interviewing wing is not saying or hinting at and being able to pick up on that in real time and then ask the question off of that. It's a very difficult skill takes a lot of time to develop it. I feel like i'm still learning it <hes> particularly now in this new lanes richard as you know doing interviews now i've done nearly fifty on camera interviews for the backstory series <hes> prior to this. I'd only done a couple of tv pieces for e._s._p._n. Jerry jerry jones profile in two thousand fourteen and a couple of others and it's it's different to interview somebody on camera than it is when you're just sitting. Let's let's say a bar with just a notebook <hes> or a tape recorder <hes> but it it it really is the ability to listen. You have to do your homework more to it's so important to go into any interview and try to read as much as you can and about the person you're about to interview the subject that you're about to ask the questions about the more <hes> institutional knowledge you have on a person that you're about to talk with or about a subject. You're about to ask someone about an imperfectly both the better it is and and i've found over my career. <hes> you know a lot of journalist don't do that part of it is because they don't have the time and i want to be really clear about this. Obviously if you've got it's five stories are filing in a day. It's hard to do that. There's no doubt and i as a cub reporter was writing three stories today. At the miami herald it was hard but the people you're interviewing. Oftentimes are pretty savvy. They're used to dealing with reporters. They can sense instantly the reporter that has done his homework and the one that hasn't and you wanna be the one that is totally prepared as best as you can be in the amount of time you have to pretend to do an interview to ask <hes> those smart questions and listen and when you listen and the and the final thing and this is an intangible is curiosity if you if you have an innate curiosity <hes> as journalists <hes> and you naturally enjoy royd being around people and and also the people you interview <hes> if even if even if you find a way you can make somebody laugh <hes> or <hes> be just naturally curious about somebody beyond the four square of what you have to ask questions about that counts for a lot too. You'd be surprised you know when i was at the new york times. I used to hear sometimes colleagues of mine in the washington bureau asking questions in such a methodical way almost physics. They were promised a prosecutor asking somebody on a witness. Stand not not not making somebody to ease early on in the call or anything like that just very little touch at times and i try to make somebody at ease very early on and that goes a long way <hes> in you know the more comfortable you're you're. The person you're interviewing is and the more they trust you and trust the <hes> the the homework that you bring to it. I think the better the interview will go. How do you know when someone is lying to you well. That's a that's a great question richard. You know sometimes you don't know but <hes> oftentimes it's got sometimes it's just instinct of the way somebody will say it or an in even over the phone. Sometimes you can tell with certainly when you're with somebody there's there's cues that are given that will give you a clue and then if you have that instinct <hes> that someone's lying than the important thing is to try to figure out if they are and to go in and dig deeply and and to figure you're out if they are <hes> but it's <hes> if that's not easy <hes> but one thing i've learned being in the business thirty years as you get lied to <hes> or you get put down a path <hes> that's not the right path <hes> by somebody <hes> and you have to again reps epson through experience work hard at trying to figure that out and obviously if you catch somebody that you report it down. I wanna ask you about social media in particular twitter which you are very active on <hes>. You're an interesting person to talk to about this because given your background at the new york times and giving your new new side background you're witnessing real time a lot of your colleagues who are covering the white house or covering conflict or covering politics and they have to navigate gate almost on a daily basis <hes> what they say on twitter how people interpret what they say on twitter <hes> are they willing link to be at times opinions versus. I don't even want to call it sort of straight objective reporting on enough i buy that word objective but but just basically sort of factual tweets as opposed to opinion based tweets <hes> and you know. I think it's a little different for us in sports in that. There's a there's sometimes an assumption by the people reading us that we're going to have an opinion on sports but that's very different obviously than the benefit of the doubt. A lot of news reporters get when it comes to opinions on politics. It's a bit of a filibuster from me but it's a long way of asking you on. How one how do you approach twitter but maybe even beyond that. How do you think twitter's should be approached by journalists yeah. It's a really tough one so i <music> i approach twitter. <hes> always knowledgeable that twitter can hurt me. Twitter can do more damage to me than it can to help me. <hes> if you're a young reporter starting out twitter is the way to establish your voice establish your brand but for a more established reporter you're like me. It's it can if i go on there and i get into a war with some troll or i or i say something <hes> that i shouldn't say about politics and and and violate e._s._p._n.'s policy on that then i can get myself in trouble and what are pretty quickly so i so i always see twitter is very perilous waters there that have have to be very carefully navigated <hes> the way journalists approach twitter i mean i don't want to necessarily make sweeping judgments about how people should do it. One of the things richard richard and i i'm surprised by is any reporter who has the cover subject and at least attempt to do it in an objective way. Try to write stories that are down the middle but then goes on twitter and becomes an opinion est or even tries to crack jokes. <hes> <hes> you know sometimes you re twitter and you see a lot of people auditioning for john. Oliver's writers writing room a lot. There's just a lot of people on twitter. Yeah it really is the the water fountain in the newsroom for folks. The digital water found that we all gather around and try to <hes> not only build build our brands and and share stories we've done. I mean in the last week. All i've been doing is tweeting out backstory the trailer back story to try to get people to try to watch his show on sunday but it's also a way for us to try to impress our friends with our knowledge with how smart we are with how funny we are and as soon as you start using it that way that's so you start potentially getting into trouble and as i was saying i think if you're a down the middle political reporter and yet you're going on twitter her and you're cracking jokes <hes> that are less leaning <hes> you're i think you're undermining your own brand as a straight news news reporter or as objective as one can be as you said richard in these times and you're also undermining your newspapers brand or your media companies brand. I mean you have to remember. You're or not just speaking for yourself but you're speaking for your news organization and i'm mindful of that every time i write a tweet that i'm not just representing myself open. I'm representing e._s._p._n. And comes great responsibility with that so the advice i would give any journalist is just be mindful that you're not just speaking for yourself. Any single single tweet can demolish reputation in a matter of a split second and but you're also representing your the the news organization or <hes> the sports network. That's <hes> it's giving you a job and giving you an incredible platform and a and the great privilege to work for them and and you know i just it don't they can't take that lightly don one of the things that people at e._s._p._n. Including yourself have to navigate is the networks been very clear clear jimmy petar on particular about no pure politics now. There's a long discussion about what that means. Pra politics is a very very subjective <hes> slogan in my opinion because i think so much and again this is my opinion is down van atis opinions on just speaking for me but the sports and politics sports and race sports and social issues are are inevitably rig <hes> linked or <hes> in my opinion and history will sort of teach us is that whether it's jesse owens <hes> or carlos and smith or ali or capture nick or anything else so that's sort of the framework of which at least i'm gonna ask don van natta this question <hes> don. How tricky do you think it is. Maybe tricky is wrong word. Lemme lemme lemme. Lemme sort of rephrase that there are people at e._s._p._n. Who are obviously passionate about things that go beyond <hes> quote quote unquote just sort of sports on the field and i think there are a lot of times where <hes> e._s._p._n. Who many of which are paid for their opinion <hes> could offer something really interesting poignant honest transparent when the nexus of sports and race or sports in politics <hes> hits us and i think people your colleague junior colleagues are living in kind of a tricky time in that. It's i think it's sometimes unclear as to where you can go on on these issues so i wanted to sort of get your thoughts on what the what your organization has said about this idea impure politics and and you know it's a tricky question for both of us to answer. We are both white males. We're not people of color and we will have a very. I think we you may process things that are said different. I think we do process things that are probably said differently than a person of color different experiences and i think that's factored in all of this as well when it comes to what he enters can't say and cannot say particularly on social media how you viewed like ask you from sort of a ten thousand foot mountain <hes> <hes> e._s._p._n.'s dicta that there are there will be no pure politics when when it comes to front facing people like yourself at the network yeah that those are the rules of the road right now. <hes> jimmy catarrhal made that very clear <hes> when he came in as president in march twenty eighteen i oh i i respect those rules of the road. <hes> that's what <hes> what the rules are and that and i'm going to buy buy them <hes> but i do believe set any time <hes> there is a story that where there is a nexus between sports and politics sports and culture <hes> that that that is something that we have responsibility to investigate if it's a news story or offer opinions on and that's where as as you talk about in to use your word tricky it. It does get tricky <hes> although i think he i think you know we are judgment is trusted. Did i believe by our bosses <hes> to sort of know what that is and in the fall of two thousand seventeen the national anthem controversy the things that the president said what about it it was an enormous issue for the national football league to confront and deal with they did not handle it well at first they sort of stumbled out of the gate <hes> if that story story to re tour to repeat itself a similar story this fall i think we would cover it justice aggressively this fall as we did in twenty seventeen. That's clearly one where it's it's. It's not a tricky call but to your point richard. It's you know it's there are some folks that feel constrained by that. <hes> you know we've seen that and and <hes> you know i respect that <hes> you know what you said about people color. I you know look. I'm a white male and had all sorts of privileges in my life. I wanna hear those voices if they want to say it but if you work at e._s._p._n. If you want to say it there's there could be consequences. There's a policy. It says it's it's. It's one that we all know <hes> sort of on the wall of the clubhouse of e._s._p._n. There's there's really nothing <hes>. That's unclear about that. I mean there's cert of trickiness penis on the margins of some of this stuff but we all know what that policy is and i respect the paul c._n._n. And i'm gonna follow you follow me on twitter. You see me say anything about politics. I i covered politics from nineteen ninety-seven in the washington bureau the new york times until two thousand three when i went to london i covered the impeachment of bill clinton the aftermath of nine eleven the first few years of the george w bush administration. I've written a book about co written a book about hillary clinton. I have a deep background in politics. I have put that on the shelf <hes> willingly <hes> because those are the rules of the road and you know. I have a great gig at e._s._p._n. One which i wanna continuing a great opportunity here now to do back story and and so i'm gonna follow <hes> those rules and and and i think as you've noticed most people these are also doing the same you down what i think i have taken from your answer is. There's no chance i'll ever work at e._s._p._n. Is basically what that comes down to <hes> because i do not have your you're disciplined when it comes to tweeting out that stuff but i appreciate you richard. Let me just say it does discipline. It does and i'll be i would. I would say i mean i know you you say that and you say that soberly i i actually think it takes incredible discipline for those of you at that network to not say anything i just i regardless of where your political affiliation in is or maybe that's even sort of a cop out but it is a it is a time unlike any other and you know that obviously from covering <hes> politics and other other things that the new york times so i think it would be one thing to have that discipline in twenty <hes> two thousand and four. I think it takes incredible discipline not to do it in two thousand nineteen so yeah i in a way i admire those who have that discipline. Even though i think i fundamentally disagree with jimmy petar yeah no i under i understand your point and yes i agree that it does take incredible discipline and there are certainly times when i'm tempted to say something but you know my job is not to cover politics. My job is not to be a commentator about politics. I don't think i did that in a past life. <hes> i was on shows talking about politics. I was on meet the press or then once you know i did that and and and it's a little easier to have the discipline richer to be quite honest with you. If you've already kind of been there done that i agree. These are <hes> unbelievable times. I i i agree with that but <hes> yeah i'm in a new chapter in my life doing sports investigative reporting and <hes> and with a with a great great challenge are trying to get a docu series off the ground so i've got plenty to distract me from that and and i'm fortunate that i'm able to be distracted. I i realized i said i and again. I realize it's a privilege. There's no doubt about i was. I was really just going to end this on a fun not because <hes> when your colleagues you know adam schefter has been able to <hes> live out his <hes> his sort of fantasy dream in reporting by being an n._b._a. Sideline reporter for a couple of games other e._s._p._n. Because of the you know just the large amount of rights that you guys have been able to sort of delve into some cool places <hes> you it almost as a one off. You are the lead investigative reporter at e._s._p._n. Your sort of lane i think is very clear in terms of what you do and you do it exceptionally well but if <hes> let's say i'm jimmy petar and i call you up when i say don you've done. You've done great work for us. Is there anything in the company that you would like to do sort of a fantasy thing. I will give you a one off assignment. What would you pick if petar all makes that call you can do from calling monday night football football too <hes> <hes> you know doing announcing cornhole what would you what would you do petar. Oh made that call to you and said donna grant you that wish that's a great question. I would have to think about it because i would probably want to drop a list of about five or six of those jobs that i can think of and have to narrow it down. I mean quite frankly richard. Doing back. Story is sort of like that. I mean this team to get the opportunity as an old print guy to host and executive produce. This docu series delving into all of these topics is sort of a a dream. Come true but i would say you know you mentioned monday night football i. I'm a big n._f._l. Fan i think you know that would probably be near at the top of the list is to be in the booth for monday night football whether other it's play by play or color or even a sideline reporter if i had one dream job beyond what i'm now doing probably would be monday night. Football alright territory will hear this done and he'll be. I love joe joe's rail dot let let us give the let us give chris plock a public relations. <hes> note here don van natta has a new docu series coming up at his called backstory. The debut episode serena versus the empire. It is launching on sunday august eighteenth at one p._m. Eastern one thirty pacific on a._b._c. There'll be multiple rears and that episode so is about serena williams. The serena williams naomi osaka match and everything that went down. I have to give e._s._p._n. A lot of credit they have poured some significant resources into backstory. Don not only travel for this. He talked to a ton of people. It shot beautifully so don kudos to the editors whoever shot this this for you in terms of sort of editing and directing. It's really it's actually a. I'm not just saying this a kiss your ass. It's beautiful looking <hes> <hes> series who you should actually give the shout whoever did that because it's a really skilled person so john paul is the executive one of the executive producers backstory he he's the co. Oh creator was really his idea. He recruited me last year to do it right. Thompson is also an executive producer a backstory and has been a great help right but the the filmmakers are multiple emmy award winners robert abbot. Who did the bobby knight film thirty right. He's the show hunter incredibly talented guy and blue foot entertainment of avon kinetico. Yeah led by kidman hillary horrigan. I know you know those folks they. They are the kim. Oregon is the director and the editor joe finale great editor. It is beautifully shot and and the music and the way it's put together. They have done a tremendous job. I've learned learned so much. They've worked so hard and they're they're really an it's an all star team talent <hes> behind back story and i think people will check it out and they'll they'll. We'll be able to see it for themselves. Yeah i was gonna say jesus. I mean connor shown petar gave you <hes> lebron durant and when it comes to to to some the production people that's good i mean the horgan's are incredibly talented robert abadi a significantly talented dude. That's you have a very good team on. I yeah i know you know how fortunate you are but you know in terms of the inside baseball this i can tell you that the people that are putting together to show are really like top class so that's yes. They are absolutely richard fisher all right don listen. Thank you for your time today. You're incredibly busy guy. So i appreciate you giving me the <hes> forty minutes <hes> to <hes> talk about your new show. I really enjoyed it. I think <hes> people especially those who are journalism awesome nerds like myself. I'm probably the people who listen to this podcast. We'll have you back. <hes> thanks again. Don natta the investigator reporter at e._s._p._n. And now galaxy the new host of serena versity don it's almost a perfect episode except for how many times puts price in their fantastic scott scott rock the episode as you know scott scott rice the man who claims he doesn't wanna be on television yet. Every time i see a term is to television. I see scott price. 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Jane's who who was a guest on this podcast before but at that time she was the beat reporter for the washington nationals for the washington post she has since moved to to covering the twenty twenty presidential campaign for the washington post and she joins me on the sports media podcast talk about what's been a pretty remarkable transition transition <hes> chelsea welcome back. You're not an iowa congrats here in washington d._c. For a day you're have recently returned so i yeah i'm the home for that but i only has definitely become the equivalent of like a spring training home. At this point. I feel like i i lived there now. Then joy the joy that those the state fair fried foods food which will be eating for from now until the end of of that primary season alright so i wanna start off with very much just sort the in open ended questions and please go as long as you want but how is the transition been from covering baseball to covering the twenty two thousand presidential campaign in your your case with a specific to commerce campaign. It's been the only way i can describe it as very different but also not as different as you might. I think you know i think that there are obvious similarities between you know spending all your time around one baseball team and and in my case spending a lot of time around owned <hes> become la harris campaign you know these are you know both baseball teams and presidential campaign <hes> for different reasons than with different stakes <hes> <hes> you know have incentive to to not tell reporters things to not be transparent to sort of try to guide their narrative in different ways and so in that way a lot of the effort. It's spent trying to sort through that <hes> and whether you know you're doing that affectively or not up up to everyone but <hes> you know i think in that way it's very similar as you sort sort of has to be a skeptic <hes> as much as possible despite spending a lot of time <hes> the people of whom you have to be skeptical and then i think there's some really really obvious differences. I think the main one <hes> that i've really wrestled with is is that there's no score in politics you know at the end of the day there's no oh number you can present and say this is what happened. It's it's by its nature until an election pretty arbitrary and i think that that's something <hes> <hes> that i've just wrestled with and lost a lot of sleep over is sort of you know trying to make sure that you know in a very arbitrary world world <hes> the coverage isn't that that it's it's fact based and straightforward <hes> and not drawing conclusions that can't be supported and while that should seem fairly me to do. It's it's actually not when you have you know you're you're asking experts who have their own opinions and sort of everything is opinion based and <hes> and even polls you have to sort of question question and and look into their biases so i think just kind of <hes>. There's a lot more to sort through <hes>. It's harder to decide what is true. What people think is true. What you think is true <hes> and how those things should interact and ice story that you're presenting as you know a true fair you know stories of people who rely on you to those things one of the things that's interesting to me. Chelsea is how you were perceived as not the right word but when you first started covering the presidential campaign how did fellow reporters see you as someone covering coming from sports and then maybe even more interestingly how how did the people in the political world that you're covering see your previous experience covering the nationals. Everyone's really nice about it. You know no one's looking at you and say oh my god. How did you end up here. <hes> you know i was doing enough of that myself. I think but <hes> it's hard to say. I think there was definitely some skepticism. You know i think <hes> i've been really fortunate to end up here. <hes> for you know this was not something that was always on my radar like it has been for a lot of reporters and i think for some of those people would be fair to assume but you know they're kind of looking at me like how you know where this girl come from <hes> but i never felt any give that firsthand really you know there are a few on twitter where someone would say why are they moving the baseball reporter to politics so they're not taking it seriously and and to that you just have to you can't say much you gotta just kind of show that you belong and that's a long process so i think i tried to kind of not worry about that stuff as much as possible possible <hes> but there is there's a proven yourself process but i certainly have not completed and in terms of the campaigns. I think you know we were wondering the other day. Actually if if senator harris who i've spent a lot of times covered even realizes that that's where i come from right because they have so many things to worry about that the candidates themselves probably aren't thinking that way <hes> but as for her staff they've they've all been you know it's in my face very fair and very you know kind of respectful and interested and oh i think for a lot of people in politics which you know <hes>. It's still a very you know white male world <hes> there there are a lot of people who love baseball and a lot about it and we're familiar with me from that world so i would say at least in the things that have been said outwardly. Do we <music> <hes>. You never know what else is going on there but <hes> it's actually been sort of helpful as an end in a way to start conversations that <hes> we get people away from politics because i think you know one thing that people in politics have in common with other people people don't realize is that they don't wanna talk politics all the time either so it's kind of an unrefreshing way wait for them to think about something else that a lot of attention to to say oh yeah i covered the nationals and here's where i think it's going which was the question. I got most early on on the. I think one of the things that i would imagine has helped you. Even though the content is different is that when you're covering baseball obviously one <hes> <hes> deadline writing is crazy so you have a ton of experience in being able to write fast when it comes to breaking news to <hes> when you're working the clubhouse. Is you know you're dealing with people from all different <hes> backgrounds ethnicities diversity and so you just you really have to be able to talk to an an approach people who are unlike you and you certainly know that obviously is a woman being in a in a mail clubhouse. My sense is like those even though the content is different like that kind of skill set. I feel totally transfers and probably has helped you in certain parts during your coverage of the of the presidential campaign gene is that the case and if so do you have some specifics and how that manifested yeah. I think it really does help. I think you're right. I think it's probably something that <hes> because it's such a part of the day to day work that i probably have underestimated but <hes> you know i think it's true that i was fairly out of place and i- major league baseball go pow so you know <hes> you know a young mid twenties woman who had never played major league baseball that was not you know the climate that i would have ended up in any other way and so i think you did learn to sort of look around and realize that there as corny as it sounds like these are people and you can talk to them about things and there are overlapping interests and experiences <hes> and in my case many of those overlapping experiences centered around experience of being on the road and being you know in baseball and and kind of that grind and you realize what a bonding experience that is <hes> and and the topic of conversation i think on the campaign trail when it comes to staff ask and when it comes to <hes> the people involved directly in the campaign you sort of remember that oh these are people who are also sad that they're on the road all the time or you know who probably you wanna be home and talk about their families or talk about anything else in their job and and for a little bit just to get that reprieve and so you kind of it's it's not as intimidating you realize that you have more uncommon <hes> than you might think and it obviously helps you know talking to voters in places. No i had not spent a lot of time in iowa before this experience and and you know i think when you haven't been somewhere being in a community you sort of assume things or more different than they actually are <hes> and to have had that experience in baseball realizing yeah i can joke around with a nineteen year old kid from the dominican republic who had never spent much time in america and doesn't english just as well as i can. You know a more more you know polished veteran who's been in the spotlight for his whole life. You realize once you can do that. You can probably handle some of these places. You've never been in the similarities are there and <hes> it's. It's definitely borne out on the campaign trail. What are the things that <hes> and again. I'm curious. If this was the case with you you know if you have the power shoot in sports sports into a story or a sport that you don't know you know what you do obviously as you read as much as you can on the subject <hes> you try to talk to people who are within that world just to to get some kind of base to right. Maybe authoritative is not the best phrase but at least sort of with some kind of <hes> take some kind of knowledge base so that you can provide that for the reader when when you knew for a little bit that you were going to obviously be doing this in january of twenty nineteen but how did you prepare for covering politics. Did you talk to other people at the post to have obviously all these years of experience and <hes> and covering the the highest levels of politics and and government the country. Did you read as much as you could. <hes> was it a combination of all those things if combination of all of them i read some of the kind of like seminole middle campaign trail books over the years. I was carrying those around with ming early on <hes> i. I had really sort of maybe last summer. I i started to think you know just based on conversations. I've had with post <hes> editors that might be coming so i sorta changed my podcast habits and and my daily reading habits and and tried to make sure i was absorbing as much as i code <hes> but for me a lot of it has been reading <hes> i you know reading a lot of background background and history and just trying to everything i can about the people involved before i show up <hes> and that i think has has worked to extent but then there's also sort of this you know the prevailing wisdom i got from a lot of people who had done it before is that we've never seen anything like what we're seeing right now. Also precedent actually being free of that <hes> you know that kind of adherence to traditional ways of doing this traditional thinking might actually be a real positive. They've done that maybe they were just telling me that <hes> you know. I remember someone said we're. We're moving you over because we think you can ask the dumb questions that that aren't actually dumb. You know the questions that no one would ask if they've been here all along but but my matter now <hes> you know the questions people wish they'd asked <hes> you know as donald well trump was was rising that that maybe would allow them to predict what happens better but <hes> you know i i've assured them but i am very capable of asking questions so i've tried to make that <hes> a stable but <hes> yeah it's it a lot of talking to people yielded. Just keep your eyes open. Trust your instincts <hes> so beyond that i just tried to read a no the people i was dealing with as much as possible but you know there's just no substitute for kind of living it and and the knowledge you get on the ground and being involved every day yeah as i've gotten older i've come to the thesis that there really are no dumb questions and oftentimes what cynically someone a dumb question as you know could ultimately provide one of the most insightful illuminating answer so when someone does that in baseball you know. I know there's reporters who rule their is. I always loved the questions that are just ridiculous list or you're gonna quote because the person is so used to answering questions that are <hes> that they expect that throws the subject off. Sometimes you get an interesting. One of the things that i admire you for in the last couple months that i've seen on twitter is your discipline. I this is the reason chelsea. I don't think i could ever cover politics. I i would tweet something out that basically the paper would end up removing me from the political beat because i just i don't know if i have that discipline so <hes> i want to ask you a couple of questions about social media. How how have you stayed. <hes> discipline on social media where what you're tweeting out is almost a off stack based as opposed to getting into any kind of opinion yeah well. I think one of the first things <hes> is that they had a an incident in early on where i didn't do that <hes> i one of the first events i recovered of senator. Harris is <hes> a lot of her sorority sisters <hes> the ak sorority sorority where there was at howard university and they were just going wild for her. You know i had it and so and i was just surprised to see such a presence. It was like you thought justin bieber up there and i use the word that they were shrieking which was a horrible word choice and and what i learned later and should have learned before was that they're kinda. Sorority call is this this thing called ski. We it's very high and you could sound they were just yelling but it's like a meaningful call and i had never been exposed to it before. I didn't know about it <hes> and rightfully so i was you know really really kinda hammered by everything from the view to twitter <hes> people i knew people i didn't for just kind of being ignorant idiot and i want you know <hes> and i think i learned from that. You know my you can have very good intention and still not not recognize their own blind spots <hes> and you know in baseball there. There were many blind spots. You know there's a score. There's an answer there's traditions that we all are sort of familiar with but when you open the conversation is probably it's politics. Requires like inevitably you're going to have blindspot and i was not familiar with this word he at all <hes> which is no excuse you know because it it just like we're taught me and it's stuff with me and i think about it every day and it's a terrible feeling when i think about it <hes> because i am ashamed of it and that mistake but it's just like a very strong reminder that i don't know what i don't know and if i'm gonna say something i want to be really sure if it and you know i wish that sort of experience on anyone but i do hope that people are able to learn that lesson without <hes> you know offending and hurting so many people because it's it's. It's really valuable and i think we don't. We really don't think about that enough of you. Know what we don't know so that would be the first way that i've stayed disciplined is is just sort of not wanting to repeat that and and understanding that i don't know what i'm looking at all the time <hes> and i think the other is that i very early on decided sided. I was never gonna use adjectives if i avoid it <hes> because you know again like a pitcher can have a bad game and i can show you the statistics but if an event event is bad or someone says something that you think <hes> is funny and it's not you know it it's just so subjective and and you don't know what you don't know so i've stayed away from agitate as much as possible tried not to spend a lotta time on twitter you know getting into fights with people because ultimately i can't control anything anyone says about what i say i can just control what i say and and you know trust my intentions and anything beyond that i think is kind of a slippery slope that that it doesn't benefit anyone yeah. It's interesting. I remember that that <hes> looking at it now obviously that came on january ninth <hes> which is very very early in your tenure there <hes> and obviously people who were part of alpha kappa alpha <hes>. I mean really let you have it. You were you know as i'm looking at some of the clips as you remember really crushed by. I some black oriented publications like the root. If there's anything good from this and i think you you what you stated was really thoughtful and while said that maybe it came early in your tenure as opposed to a lesson maybe late because like you said you're always going to remember this and it was something that happened to. Maybe your first. It's two weeks or three weeks on the job. I almost think to myself sometimes. If like something like that happens you really want it early. Because it stays as a reminder for you we maybe even years later about and this this we're all guilty of this sort of not knowing what we don't know and sort of before you put put it on a public microphone double double checking what you don't know yeah exactly and i think it was a really <hes> i mean i certainly wish it hadn't happened and that i hadn't <hes> <hes> you know offended people like i did because it was a really dumb tweet that i can do nothing but i called them but i think you know another thing. That really taught taught me. Is that like there's a lot more that goes into confronting biased than you know thinking. You're not racist or thinking. You have good intentions sort. I you really have to dig in and say what do i not know like what have i not been required to learn that maybe a person of color has been required to learn about white culture culture you know <hes> and just like kind of the realization that the discomfort i felt that moment is nothing compared to the discomfort of groups that feel marginalized or you know all these things. It's like there's so much that comes with a moment like that. That makes me really evaluate. How the media does what it does. How people who really want to you know i i consider myself who really wants to do this right and be fair and and <hes> you know kind of tackle some of those biases and even with those intentions. I made a big mistake like that <hes> and that's that's kind of jarring but i think you know for the better that we have to realize that wanting to do well. <hes> is no substitute for actually digging in and trying to confront the thing that we don't know why. We don't know them shows you. How would you compare it sort of its base level <hes> baseball twitter to politics twitter. You know there there. Are there are similarities and that i think you can't when you have people that are very supportive of baseball team or a candidate. They're they're not gonna hear a bad word about it or they're not going to hear that. Their take is wrong. <hes> and i think that the way that manifests that's a tough in baseball is that you know fans are going to be really angry until you. You know you're gonna fire manager right like if you you know you publish article that says oh maybe maybe it's not the manager's fault and they're gonna come after you and say no. It's it's definitely the manager's fault like this guy's gotta go and at the expense of nuance in a lot of cases on that platform <hes> i'm not saying that's santa's general but on that platform and i think that in political twitter it's very similar in that you know if you try to hold ex person accountable bowl right something. That's maybe not flattering even if you try to do it fairly. The reaction is going to be oh but look at this other thing that x. candidates. That's you know worse and it's the picture but like are you arguing that that <hes> that that should be the standard right because someone else says something your your candidate you support <hes> should be let off the hook and and so there's this double standard <hes> that basically you know manifest itself in the same kind of <hes> uncompromising anger i think and yeah it's frustrating and that way because you feel like people don't appreciate nuance don't appreciate attempts to sort of be fair but i think <hes> i also understand that there's passionate volvo baseball fans and and people court political candidates and <hes> you know you definitely feel it in both venues. Oh you know anyone who tells me that they don't feel it. <hes> the impact of kind of social media blowback or response or or even the response for the better you know if you write an article and all of a sudden you know entire campaigns. Worth of people tweeted out. You're like oh wow there was a lot of support for this article. Then you step back and be like oh you know this is like tweeting but the the nats are gonna win the world series. You know obviously this. Is you know that's why i took off and do what you actually wrote so it's just a it's a minefield but it's it's a lot of passion on both sides <hes> that can really really you know test your ability to hold your ground. What is the what is <hes> the post told you about <hes> your sort sort of. Let's say like <hes> next twelve to sixteen months. <hes> are you covering the harris campaign for as long as the harris campaign goes or or do you just basically what what what do you know or what can you tell us at least at this point about your assignments your immediate assignment assignment heading forward well. Fortunately i'm not important enough. Seventy secret grand plan that i couldn't disclose <hes> but i think <hes> as far as i know you know i'm covering the the harris campaign until i'm not <hes> i think we have really haven't really assigned a lotta people campaigns <hes> and it's fluid and i'm sure we'll kind of move around just so they can see other people but <hes> you know for now. I've i've spent a lot of time with them and i guess the idea would be to continue to do that as long as it exists but you know what happens when it stops <hes> if it stops <hes>. I don't know you know what happens. After the november twenty twenty election action is is even more in there <hes>. I certainly don't think i've proven that i belong yet in any way and so that's kind of something that i still the end up but <hes> you know before this all started we had talked about kind of leaving that open ended and whether that means you know canoeing politics going back to sports <hes> doing doing something that we haven't talked about remains to be seen but i would assume that if if senator harris continues to do well when i continue to spend <hes> the bulk of my time with that campaign that <hes> i would follow them to to the end whatever that may be and if it's <hes> you know if it if the end doesn't come november then you know i guess maybe there'd be a chance that you'd go on with them but <hes> yeah it's totally open ended which is really weird because i'm used to a season and offseason and <hes> very predictable rhythm and this is. This is very day to day so here's where i sort of want to conclude. Have you again i. I realized that you've only been covering this this jan-january august so we're talking. I think of my math is right here basically eight months or so. How do you have sort of any kind of internal sense inciarte chelsea of what you are what you've enjoyed more whether it's covering sports and specifically the rhythms of a day to day beaten sports or or politics and specifically the rhythms of sort of a day to day <hes> campaign beat. I i don't <hes> a lot of people have asked me that. It's really hard. It's it's different because i think the things that i enjoyed about baseball. <hes> were in a strange way. Sort of its parallels was to the real world. <hes> you know that you play every day you know it's <hes> there are ups and downs and and they're from one it's good and it's it's hard when it's not but ultimately finally kind of have to see the long game and i think in campaign life all those things apply <hes> they're more real right the stakes a higher that you know when when these campaigns have a bad day it you know kind of trust their entire existence into question <hes> but it is a long game so so all of that is there but i think the difference is that <hes> i've never been through it before so i don't know that i feel that rhythm yet right the i'm sort sort of kind of assuming that something is a big deal but i don't know you know i. I know that <hes> i i can't for example look at the you know campaign the way i look at the nationals and then say stephen strasburg is gonna get hurt in september the bullpens gonna. They're gonna add a piece at the deadline and it's probably not gonna be enough right because that's the predictable predictable nationals you know way of going. I don't know what i'm looking for in this so i think that makes it a little more fraught for me and just like a little more <hes> certainly stressful but but i can't really assess it got 'cause i i haven't <hes>. I don't know what i'm looking at for better or worse than i. I'll be really interested to see how so that changes over the next few months and particularly like you know as this gets down to one nominee. I'll look back and be able to say oh wow that was fun and if i did it again here's what i do but right right now i'm sort of in it and <hes> you know still kind of feel like i'm taking with my head. Cut off trying to run around and understand everything before it's over all right. Follow follow on doesn't incredibly unfair to ask this but national the nationals are hank should probably pull this up so this is. This is a bad example not doing research chelsea elsie. I think they're too are they to up in the wildcard what they're very they're up in the wildcard but they're gonna. This is called filling time here as i talked to you the as i pulled this up okay there as we tape this there one game up in the wildcard six pack of atlanta. I realize now that you were highfalutin and political reporter but i'm going to ask but i'm but i'm going to ask you will the washington nationals. Make the plows. I think so i do. Why's that <hes> because they've got the worst you know i think that at some point they've you know they've now had last year and kinda downs at the beginning of this year to go through and it seems like they've found a good mix of veterans and young players and <hes> sure there's okay if strasberg's okay and if you little's okay i think they have a they have a real real chance and <hes> a very different vibes and they did <hes> at times last year and in years prior and the kind of vibe where you don't know you're not supposed to win so you so you can probably just kind of ride it out a little bit but i think they set expectations low enough early in the season that now they're sort of underdogs coming back you know coming back up and that's all they've always played really wow i think i agree with you because i expect kind of the pitchers who maybe have not pitched great earlier in the year to earn others to sort of have a really good final stretch so i'm with lydia <hes> although the national league <hes> between the nationals and the giants one two three four five six seven eight teams within three and a half games for the wild card so a lot of fun so when you're in iowa you know one of those state fairs eating corn warn dogwood bacon. Make sure you keep your eye on <hes>. You know what's going on in baseball so you don't lose that chelsea sure actually the first hotel i ever checked into in iowa. The the first question the badger asked me and i don't know how he knew that i should know this was was whereas bryce harper going and so <hes> i've stayed there forever ever since because i felt really special they we knew who i was but <hes> yeah it's it's an s. capable and that's a good thing by the way what is i should ask you for. What is the craziest food that you've seen it the i. I've never been iowa. What does the craziest. You've seen it the iowa state fair. Oh my gosh. There's just a lot of <hes> man. That's a great question. If if you can think of something fry i it's there i mean i think that was really telling. I can't think of one but there isn't app that tells you where food is. The iowa state fair and the toggles are like fr- i think it was like food drink and then foods on a stick and they were like one hundred sixty six. You could literally pick that option but i mean there was like fried bacon wrapped whatever you wanted <hes> i mean i couldn't pick just one but they were all <hes> frankly a a little bit nauseating when i was there at nine thirty yeah well. This is what i get it. You know this is like why the candidates like it is like they gotta do their part to like. Go go to go to the gym or whatever because it's like. It's a killer like waking given all that fried food but they gotta they gotta they gotta. They gotta partake in it because the locals consider that very important. It's very interesting little slice slice of americana chelsea. Jane's is a washington post reporter covering the two thousand twenty presidential campaign before that she's a longtime beat reporter for for the washington nationals shoes also previously guest on this podcast right before she <hes> she jumped on this beat so you can head back in the archives and check out <hes> how she was feeling prior to this and now eight months later this interview chelsea listen continued success. I think what i as i told you last time i think what you're doing doing his is amazing and it's just such an interesting transition to me and <hes> and i wish you love the best of luck in a little bit of sleep as the presidential presidential campaign gets crazy over the next couple of months. Thanks for coming back again on the sports media podcast and hopefully i'll check back with the as we get close to the actual election. Yeah thanks for having me. I really appreciate it as we the football season. 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Best Of: Kurkjian, Kimes & DVN Jr.

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Best Of: Kurkjian, Kimes & DVN Jr.

"This is the dan le batard show with this to spot cass men <music> welcome to day three of the dan lebatardshow with stugatz week in a slow august introduce yourselves selves to each other back there in the shipping container day three introduce yourself. He's with you all around. Ask i gave up on hard knocks two minutes in last night. No what's yeah. I would hate working for him. I'm i'm just gonna go ahead and say it <hes> i i would hate working for jon gruden coming in here screaming at everybody about execution week two two of the of the preseason you are only hearing him break them down. You're not hearing and watching the building back off of the players that he breaks down. It is glorious oreos. He is great. It's a great last night. He badgered the backup quarterbacks. Oh did that well. I figured out his strategy though at the beginning of a meeting he's very a very slow talking and he's very motivating guys. I want you to play hard today. I want you to believe play hearts right. He's a dinosaur sir. He's from a different time. The thirty three year olds are taking over with offense all his banana plays aren't going to be smarter than anybody else's and he's also not gonna make them tougher than anyone else now you you really missing this on. This episode. Last night was so good knock. If you agree with me guys mike ryan in my in my neck knocking approval realize you know what we have a television professional national jon gruden right so we're just going to stick with that. They've got to television professionals. They don't have is global mac anymore. They got in the front office to <unk> television professionals. They don't have anyone who could run a football team. Though i gotta tell you may ach was good. Last night was all right. I had a couple of lines in there. He was occurs to a little bit. Maniac was pretty good. Yeah it's like they realized they had the production meeting and they realize okay. We can't go to abram anymore. People hate this guy what works jon gruden and that viral photo of antonio brown that was cool. Let's do it but more disgusting. They played the hits last night. Rookie singing hunter renfro wolf. Oh they play the hits ban. They played that state. They established a story for a rookie receiver that they're definitely going to cut oh man. They did it all last night. They brought it back now. If you're all right if i may <hes> you've heard us talked before about the idea that the resume of jon gruden is the resume of brian billick. One one of them went into broadcasting parlayed into ten million dollars a year for ten years. The other one can't find work knock if you agree with mitt yeah so and knocking hurts and so i got to go left. Don't knock you're gonna hear your knuckles chansa. Uh so jon gruden is good television. I'm not going to dispute that. I'm talking more about the the kind of boss you'd want to work for that is going to go so tiring when they're two and six and he's coming into another meeting as aggressive as he came in the second week of <hes> of of the the practice schedule you see with iran data's ma'am. I'm sick of it. I don't like it now. One bit sick of reading about knock on wood if you so here's what happened you guys helped me understand something. Tell me if i'm wrong game. We'll put this on the poll. Please at lebatardshow talk. Show did tony romo do more in one year of broadcasting. Then gruden didn't all his years yes or no just a yes or no question i in terms of in terms of making memories because outside of being enthusiastic about football john gruden's talent right now is what that he can outsmart others at ten million dollars a year he can stare and he gets they can connect with letters. Hey hey you want me to say a little your girlfriend. Bring him around. I would like to play for jon gruden bills. Don't give me the tough love but he'll build me back up yeah. He built up nathan peterman you did. That's what coaching is all about and you break down. You build them up. I mean take it from coach. I'm coached in writing to break people down to build them but you have to do with standard. It's coaching wanted break them down. You build them back up then you building them up or you just molding something you've broken into some sort of vision that you have for that person not the actual person yes that is correct. That is the job ten million dollars a year. All of you become what i wish i will break you down and then i will make you into the foreign twelve monsters that you're you're not if you agree with me man. It doesn't really hurt crop. How was the antonio brown stuff because i'm not making up. When i say gave up two minutes in last snack. Oh my god he accurately described as as a flat whoopie cushion looked that way it was disgusting. He was talking about things leaking. It was was nasty. The way he described he went through like what it actually was what the burn was like in that. He went to paris and he didn't really describe somebody somebody telling him to put shoes on or anything like that. He was just like i got out and my feet started hurting and then twenty four hours later they bloomed up and a doctor came over and he just started draining. My foot surprised that he's not naming this company like hey. This guy screwed me. I'm sure the company has it written in something that he just signed that said put shoes on helmet issue. Was it explored in any depth last night. Did they give you. Here's the thing about hard knocks right. It is glossy and it is wonderful. We we go back to a time and n._f._l. Films when they were doing art as football long before anyone else was with the music and the tundra and the mythology they made <hes> football football beautiful and run hard knocks is a bit of a work of art but it's faux intimacy because it's heavily edited to protect the product and to protect the people involved. I think what you you have here is gruden. His granting very little access to the people who are interesting. Antonio brown's not air incognito is a very small part and i think vonts has perfect has said a single sentence the two episodes that we've watched so they're focusing gruden which is where you need to focus last night's episode. They focused on the foot of frostbite stuff. They kind of tease the helmet stuff for next week. Incognito zelina plana weird role this time the only time they showed him last night was when there was a fight breaking out during the joint practice and he's walking around like guys. It's not worth it. He's maker richie incognito. Yes you know that he learned this in therapy that on that team we might be put it on the poll. Guillermo is richie incognito on that team the peacemaker. I did enjoy incognito who i think. The last three out of four years that he's play was a pro bowler talking about aaron donald. That part was great saying that he is unstaffed. I'm a pro bowl guard and i cannot stop that guy. He is playing a different game then. We're all play a couple of things jump out at the screen. The rams are good. The raiders and mcveigh's good-looking mcveigh looking and aaron donald just has this bad ass or your wife will make you uncomfortable last night yes whenever we're watching watching a show like that about sports or game and she says to me who's that. I know what that means. Okay put it on the poll at lebatardshow deer if your wife or girlfriend or partner looks at a t._v. Screen with an athlete on it and says there who's that do you know what that means baby i. I had a funny exchange with my wife because she likes hard knocks and she also tuned down on episode one but she was in on episode two and when the peterman came on she's like who is this guy and i tried to explain explain to her who nathan peterman was the bills coach thought it would be a good idea benched tyrod taylor eventually took him in the playoffs five or seven and soon as i finish saying showed the peter mann and she's like oh my god he's terrible unlike right. The peterman experience put it on the poll a <hes> at lebatardshow guillermo. What do you remember most about. Nathan peterman is at five interceptions and a half or is it running to the sideline with a bunch of frost on his his face from a game where he got tackled in the snow donlevatar. I heard the hotel industry is moving away from providing shampoo and soap. Don't don't get me started on them. Do not get me started on hotels what they take from me. I feel like i'm entitled to take from dan. Thanks to the shampoo. They're gonna throw the so. I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about the sheets and i'm talking about the towels stugatz so we really care about the environment so please hang up your get outta here. You just don't wanna watch these towels. It's going to cost you money to watch these towels all right this whole thing about. You're saving the whales. You're saving the turtles or whatever because i put my towel on a hanger is so full of it all right you just don't wanna give me fresh towels everyday. Just call it what it is. Tell me you don't wanna give me fresh house. I'm still gonna throw it on the floor all right. I feel waters renewable resource and you're not really saving the ocean by using water to clean. My towel are you. Am i missing something. What am i missing. I missing at the end of the story. This is not live at our show with his two guys sony s._p._a._m. Radio that should not be a rejoin. It's one of the dumbest thing that ever sat around here by billy. The environmentalists have been chasing seeing him around the streets for two days with his privilege. When it comes to drinking water the other thing is rejoined supposed to be like fifteen to twenty seconds. That was fifty eight seconds. It was edited. I mean what what what do you mean drinking water. My problem was with the hotel being pretend environmentalists because they want to be cheap and not washed wash your towels. That was the point. You're going to double down on who cares about water. No i'm going to say that i don't like this fo photo activism by people including hotels who're pretending to care about the environment when all they care about is the bottom line. Are you speaking slower now because i was trying to compose my thoughts and be very careful because environmental touchy subject knock on wood. If you agree with me why wait no actually i don't e._s._p._n. Radio is presented by progressive insurance. 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Did did that last year with alabama season though ethic yeah alabama always gets hustler the propaganda i mean saw stephen a smith was speaking over there and then we repurpose percents air that i take this a little weird they're going to need more clemson done past them even with all that propaganda alabama's and buoy by all of e._s._p._n. Resources and finally might share the creator of parks and rec brooklyn nine nine and the good place will all white sox angels game very cool and i'm insanely jealous for all the latest headlines information due to the sportscenter on e._s._p._n. Radio all throughout the day. We got to get him to do show references. It's one yes all right. Let's do that. Let's get him on to see if we can make a mistake of every friendship that you have with people like as soon as someone becomes kind of a friend of the show. How can we use this person and then they stopped calling mccain to write man one. Oh one yeah yeah and now they're not returning our call. I tried to get my hair to make a television show. After this radio show and write your book little thirty minute sitcom we used to to be friends with flea and then he fled. I was longing for him. The other day i saw that shangri la show about <hes> rick rubin. It's very good <hes> and i saw flee on there and and it gave me the thought man. We used to talk to him. All the time about basketball and then stu gods called him one too many times and then he changed his number yeah he did and you know when you change your number. You send that out all your contacts. He said to everyone but me. I don't have the new number. That's the second it's on that happened. It also happened with dan uggla. It's random. I know it is pretty random logs and perhaps one call too many a tweeter writes in. I guess fat ass lebatardshow had contact gruden kitchens and tell them how it's done in football. What a dip leap. That knows nothing think about changing cultures within an organization. They won't coach the same after a year or two. It's about culture change keys laurence. Maroney also changes number on a guy was always boarding a plane every time i tried to get him on the show and you would ask yourself salving you should why were we trying to get large baroni on the show but we were it was a curious obsession you had and really the only reason that you kept trying to get him is because he kept picking picking up always on a plane always saying i'm about to take off no matter when you called it and then he changed his number two the tweeter who writes in it's about culture change the franchises you're talking about. It's too damn decades browns and raiders of culture changes and what every damn coach with the new coach smell comes in and i'm gonna make them tougher. I'm going to make them tougher. I'm gonna make them tougher then. They get fired and a couple of years. Here's the culture change for the browns draft a good quarterback. That's the culture that'll change it but mike patton was sort of easy on the guy is in practice and there was a bunch of exercise bikes on the sideline hugh jackson even easier on the players so they went from a culture change tim even another culture change of hey. Let's make this even easier so now freddie kitchens is tough him up its iron. Sharpens iron folks <music> but my does the culture change work in let's say l._a. With the rams with mcveigh because everyone loves mcveigh including my wife now the thing that's a change of culture from jeff jeff fisher but fisher gives off tougher than mcveigh does but added a change of culture. It's not about what you're changing culture to dan as that listener. I tried to explain to you. It's about just changing from what it was before where you didn't get the results and yes. I believe the patriots are tougher than everybody else. You know why championships that's why results always wins but does it. You're right but does it change if goth is not good. That's my point no it doesn't there are losing organizations. I mean dan will soar argue that he's not sure about golf. My point joint okay. We could sit here and simplified to the quarterback if you want to. You were just on mike and mike saying dak prescott prescott not one of the top seventeen quarterbacks in the n._f._l. <hes> and that of course stuck to me somebody yelled at me because your saying that wack prescott and it's <hes> golic and wingo now it's a big. What did i say mike. Mike mike and mike two two years old. I mean it is kinda still mike and mike with trade coming in playing the other mike. It's all there is another mike there. It's junior okay so it's mike my can trae mike and mike and fitz whatever thing they steal from you can oversimplify. All you want on quarterback l. I would say to you is. I asked the audience to think. Do you really believe that one n._f._l. Football team is tougher than the other just just do you. Do you do believe that you believe that. Freddie kitchens are jon. Gruden have some sort of magical powder that they they can spread around to who make their team tougher than the next guy's team as if you know doug peterson doesn't know how to make a a tough team actually yes all right all right guys earn coaches to make seen that dan <hes> the bengals hard hitting ravens hard hitting sealers hard hitting you gotta be tougher in that division yeah all right dan who you more worried about facing team coach by bill parcells our team coached by dick for meal. I think about it. I mean dick for meal won. A championship cried though i did cry a lot and all these culture changes we've seen in miami. Hey bill parcells the nick saban and all of them have been swallowed by the miami organization changing cultures again and again and again. If you wanna believe that oh fine then you believe in things like jon gruden and his ability to make magic on television and ten million dollars a year because he can scrunch an hi brow and here's a montage of jon gruden being great on monday night football hub. Let the sea off. That's of linemen poll. You don't want tom coughlin. It goes your football team. Who you gonna call those busters bike. I don't know let me showing what he's slants back. In nineteen ninety four thirty three steps land in a playoff game is is the trade offs thoroughly sharp goes. Who's that gada kotra slant outside right now. Let's get out there. Put your outside foot back. Start working on under slants. You're released as if your quarterback what the ball foot in front of the numbers watch stafford fit the ball in the hole between the corner and a safety. I don't advise this at home. Throw by matt stafford. I call that the turkey asked me why i cannot. I cannot wait till he comes is back next year. Maybe two years romo you can predict plays. Can you do anything like that. Can you electrify the audience is so enthusiastic easy as think about this small things it was his best trait as a broadcaster he loves slants any loves the details and the precision and slants and so instead up teaching them to any of his players. You just trades everything for antonio brown. A guy who can run slant mascot selena hates whatever comes with a the line loves. I love how hard he doesn't want to offend antonio brown's you see him in meetings. It'd be like anybody see my receiver man. A little smirk on space walks away away just frustrated anyone seeing a be hard. This is hard for our government back. This is biting his lip man going to that private room home. They got it on the facility where he just rip them up a dad and may ox there in the background. Just nodding had an agreement with his wife and he is leading it out. Oh boy put it on the poll is may ox entire job just to nod like a bobblehead behind gruden eared anytime one in four car. Batteries is about to fail. I also think ahead and get yours tested for free at advance auto parts. It won't cost a dime to make sure you are not any twenty five percent who could be stranded in a mall parking taking lives some spooky woods or even worse at your in laws if your battery is weak advance as batteries that deliver more performance and starting power in extreme conditions. They had advance only at advance auto parts. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls plenty of time to think if we could sadly has no brain however when in a most nesting doll here's the geiko not only saves saves people money but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer pity the most nesting doll and her lot in life here. Is dan libertad. It's too and team coaching on e._s._p._n. Radio tim kirk with us now. Tim does reese. Davis look like a disney. Prince does dallas radim look like a musician in the muppets ban. Does david blatt look like he's looking at his reflection in spoon brian. You're on with tim kirch. Save that one brian. You're on with tim kirch search. Go ahead anytime you know who would be like the r._b._i. Leader who'd be responsible for both ricky henderson responsible for x. amount of time barbie r._b._i.'s. I'm sorry dan. I didn't understand that either. Did i but it's some form of who is responsible ricky henderson being responsible for don. Mattingly's rb is like who's a player the so good that he was a source of r._b._i. For somebody else well lou gehrig rig was gonna retire as they all time r._b._i. Leader until he got sick and he drove in. I wanna say one hundred and seventy five runs in the season season that babe ruth hit sixty homers and so he basically came to the plate seventy five times a lease with over the on and still drove in that many runs. I mean no one on and then as far as many runs. I got my numbers mixed up. I do think there's the perfect guy i like. This is the r._b._i. Gene <hes> tommy her one year for the cardinals hit you know eight homers or so and knocked in one hundred run driving in <hes> you know all those features willie mcgee and vince coleman joe torry told me that on in one thousand nine hundred seventy lou brock doc did not play the final game of the season and tory said look you have to play. I've got ninety nine hundred b is and i gotta get to a hundred. How did i need to get two hundred dollars. The is and as it turned out w- rock at ninety nine strikeouts and he didn't wanna strike out a hundred now now dies strike out a hundred raids every year just shows you how much things tape changed speaking of which i saw that the dodgers now what's the stat that he has pan was thrown around that they've scored fifteen plus runs in two games. They don't have even two singles in it. Do i have that right like last night. School at fifteen runs with no no more than two singles so the only teams nineteen hundred do that. I don't think they did that another time but if they did who would be surprised i eight for this morning that they have eight guys with two home runs or more in a game this year and i checked is that a record and the answer is no oh the yankees and the blue set the record already this year. What ten nine look interesting. This is find out. It's not even a record for and we've got seven more weeks ago. The dodgers were playing the marlins so you question if that counts are not sam. Can you help us understand dan something though as someone who knows baseball the way you do and real time evolutions like this or super rare. Can you explain to me how we went one hundred years before baseball paul realized hey home runs are better well and you know dan beginning home for facts until babe. Ruth came along whole runs. Were like no. This is not a good thing. They're supposed to score another way other than hitting it. Over offense and route didn't just popularize is the home run. He made it an important part of the game but what's happened in you know this is as we found out how great it is to hit homers. We also play the game in a lesser way today then i think we used to because they're all they care about is hitting home runs. Not everything everything that goes on in between the home run at ten. How did it happen. So fast is what i'm saying. How did it turn this quickly in the last couple of years where where it's borderline on watchable because everyone's just swinging for the fences i well dan i've. I don't think it's just two years. I think it's closer to five or ten and and i think you could go back thirty years to the mid eighties when incaviglia bo jackson corey neider jim christley they all came grabbed ear. They all come into the big league tame time they all had thirty overs. L. struck out one hundred fifty times and from that moment on i believe that was the start of the it's okay the kay but the last few years you're right completely out of control and it's our new young general managers basically trying to reinvent the wheel and say he weird on the ballpark and strike out. The team sucks the liberty to that again. It's way when you too many strike out and way too many homes home jimmy. Why do people keep saying the yankees. Especially in today's baseball two thousand nineteen were just discussing the law the yankees need pitching the yankees need pitching every time i turn i look at the standings and i see the yankees have won eight of ten. They're eight hundred forty one right now. Plus one sixty four and postseason is pretty random. Do they really need pitching and pitching seems to be good enough to their top twelve in the league in e._r._a. Well they could use another pitcher to start a postseason series because eventually intially logically that interface burland or coal and cranky and they don't have anyone to match up with any of those three or what these last years have taught us. Is you can win in other ways as long as you hit the ball out of the ballpark. You can win with a great bullpen. You can win with a ton of homers but it really. We really helped to have a starting pitcher even in an era where the starting pitcher is totally devalued if you could throw three guys starting to postseason series you the better chance. That's what people are talking about. We were talking about the coolest teams of all time in baseball. Yes you mentioned that willie mcgee vince coleman in team <hes> that some people would nominate that a mets team from the eighties the big red machine conceico and maguire's as z. pirates in the late seventies. Who would you guys who are who am. I forgetting back truck phillies. Oh that's a good one the kruk darren dalton phillies. What would you consider the coolest coolest team of all time <hes> well that crooks phillies team was absolutely tremendous and we will never see another team likes liked that again. I remember walking in. I did a big story on that team for sports illustrated. I remember walking in clubhouse. One morning in chicago. Chicago and occur chilling stops me when i walked in and be careful. The animals are out of their cages today and that was the way back was crooked told me like twelve guys on the team got divorced that season because all they did go to the ballpark play play a game love the game win game and then eat pizza and drink beer after the game. That's what that team was. It was the ultimate income right. It was so so much fun to be around that team that were a bunch of lunatics but they really cared about the game and they really played it. Well with all due respect. They were doing more than just eating pizza. Twelve got the four yes. That's a great stat and also didn't cry often just sleep in the locker room because he'd been out drinking with the guys all mike well i. I don't know that i just know it was a it was a pizza eating beer-drinking team and again. It sounds corny but this doesn't happen happen anymore. We're guys just sit around and talk about the game and you're not allowed to do it basically anymore so all they told me like twelve years how much she misses god let the clubhouse sporting at one o'clock and his off two of the teammates were sitting here and talking about the game and i was crying. We're so happy that you guys were still. They're talking about their crafts and that's just doesn't happen very often anymore. Do steve kerr and rob. Pelinka looked like they still hold the winds record as doubles partners on their high school. Tennis team does mitch trubisky. Look like the guy i would make eye contact with you. While eating a banana does dak prescott looked like the cops and to your school to warn new on the dangers of drug use the sports centres. John anderson looked like a nasa engineer on the apollo thirteen mentioned looks up from his monitor wipes sweat from his brow and said gee if they don't have enough fuel does adam silver looked like the wooden spoon that comes with an italian icy like oh show me the money you have. Tim wants to stick around around another segment. We got a lot of calls. I enjoyed talking to him. Seven eight six four five six four eight three seven if kirch and has another segment in it just do yourself a favor pull up the phillies roster during the break incaviglia. It's lenny dykstra somehow crazier than than he is now dalton him. Eisenreich was the only normal normal one he was the only one mitchell really arrive he left testosterone saints aints and left field the darren dalton one didn't he darren dalton before the late darren dalton he believed some unusual thing about space and alien ryan and he was the most handsome part of the year that they had all my god yes he was he was how how would you explain darren dalton to people people don't understand what what dutch was dodge <hes> dreamy just wavy hair dreamy model ask. I mean probably the best looking baseball player of all time it's wednesday. Put it on the poll. Guillermo is darren dalton the most handsome baseball player of all time peers donlevatar stu gods and team curtian on e._s._p._n. Radio time for straight talk. It is brought to you by straight talk wireless. Here's the straight talk. Mike ryan is super conflicted about what to do about his feelings for o._j. Simpson on twitter really super conflicted. Mike you want to explain the nature of your conflict to the people before we get back to tim kirch in seven eight six four five six four eight three seven so i gave even curious follow on twitter a little ashamed to admit that but i mean boj's simpson's on twitter tell me you're not the least bit curious and i'm still following him and the reason i'm still following him. Is i enjoy videos and i agree with most of his takes. The fantasy football stuff is actually pretty gold. I like how are we starts videos with. Hey twitter. It's yours truly. I think it's pleasant. Here's the deal. I also believe him to be a murderer rachel. You're on with tim kirch in go ahead rachel. Tom scale of one to ten. How hot is <hes>. I'm not real good at <hes> men. Hotness darren dalton was hot dog talking baseball. Oh darren dalton was hot. Yes or no yes absolutely you are good at it evidently and so is boba shed yes but i'm not i'm not good. I'm not good at this. I have to yeah he taught yes. He's a nine ten. We'll carry it for you there. It's a strength where you're weak. It's what friendships all about tyrone own. You're on with <unk>. Go ahead. Go ahead tyrone. Hey tom too late jol the old you're on with tim kirch go ahead joel. Hey dan i got a comment for you in a question for tim and i would have told you this if i met you when you go to sally poppy everything they watch it every day. I'm a cuban from new jersey. It touches me and move me emotionally every single day. God bless you. It is awesome tim. I wanna know atlanta. It can give give los angeles thing. What do you think <hes> fall so anything is possible and the braves offense is breathtaking. It's really going well but i have big questions about their rotation big questions about their bullpen. Be good enough to beat a team as good as the the dodgers anything can happen but i don't like atlanta's chances. I don't like anybody's chances in the national league against the dodgers carl. You're on with tim kosher. Go ahead carl anytime. I was wondering what's happened to josh hater yeah. Here's homerun. Propensity is gone way way up. He's still strength out a million guys now. He is he personifies. What baseball is in the game today when he locates he doesn't just get you out. Uh strikes you out and he makes me look terrible when he misses location. Which is all the happening now. He doesn't just give up a hit. He gives up a home run and post them late in the game and so that's what happened to him. I don't think in hong them but you miss location with our hitters today. You are in big trouble. Okay jimmy. The cubs are one up on the cardinals two and a half on the brewers obviously in the wildcard races well if they don't make the playoffs here is joe matting gone. That's a great question. I don't know the answer to that. I would say if they don't make the playoffs. He will not be back next year but this is a fluid manner matt and by the way a friend of mine after o._j. Got out of prison. I've got a got beat the rap okay a friend of mine is at golf course and <hes> he's got three guys and he's alone in his car and incomes the fourth guy to join them a single and it's o._j. Simpson and my friend is in the media. I can't tell you who he is but he's in the media and now he has to sit next to o._j. For eighteen holes also <hes> on a golf course now weird that must add a bit. Did he get fantasy adviser now. I probably shouldn't volunteer that without had a kicker to it but you know the store. Kinda petered out <hes> but sorry it's the mattress company no juice imagine how awkward that must have. I've been to get stuck with a single and in this case it's o._j. Simpson chaffetz after he beat the rap does dave gettleman look like his chips scott stuck in the vending machine. Stephen ross look like of control equipment dumbing does david griffin looked like the third myth buster brother steph curry looked like the special guest star who would sweep in and take laura winslow and break steve urquhart all over again colin. You're on with tim. Kirk should go ahead colin. Hey calm if randy johnson were the same size as tim kirk jin. Would he still be a hall of famer. He's six ten. I'm five five. He'll of course you would be a hall of famer and i believe if he still had that ability he would still be a great pitcher at five foot five it. It helps to big as a pitcher but it doesn't always mean and there are a lot of moving parts there. That's a really good short pitchers billy wagner through a hundred miles an hour five foot eight bobby shantz won the m._v._p. Of the league one year he's five foot six on so just being big doesn't mean throwing really harder. You really great if he had that's pallet level and my body. I still think he'd be hall of fame. The small unit <hes>. There's never been a pitcher dominant at your specific size right. I mean you just mentioned someone five six but your size. There's never been a dominant pitcher at your height and weight well. That's true that's true <hes> but this is a spectacular talent in randy johnson. What does it did it help that he was six ten swing. We live from down there. Impose scare that scaring everyone to death at the play. Yes that's part of it. I'm saying what the exact same scale said name arm speed beat. Everything else would admit my body is still think he he wins. He's a hall of famer. Last question here is small dead like can you win the way. The royals won a few years ago. Is that even possible now <hes>. I think it's gonna be really hard. I just did a indians game. The other night they lead the league is sacrifice. It's just it's unusual to do that anymore for a good team. Most teams don't do that. They just sit back. I just don't present to you <music> appliance today. I think it needs to make a giant change in the game before that completely comes back. I think that change has already begun but it's going to take many many years before we're back to playing the game that it was playing that was played. Maybe twenty or thirty years not quite tim kerchuns height but don john cangelosi pitch for innings eddie zero era. I went into the pilot's curb house was because i was mistaken for john cangelosi outside without one day and i went in and i told them you're not gonna believe this. A guy just asked me to sign autographs thinking i was hugh and john candy was not pleased. We'll talk the next week. Thank you for the time today. Okay see this is the dan le batard show with this to spot cass <music> e._s._p._n. Radio is presented by progressive insurance. Meena kind join us just a second here on the shell pennzoil performance line download. Hello the meantime show. Featuring lenny would new episodes every wednesday. Here's your sportscenter update red sox. Lefty chris sale became the fastest pitcher major really baseball history to reach two thousand strikeouts. He now has two thousand seven career strikeouts following his twelve th strikeout performance in boston seven the six extra innings victory in cleveland also in that game red sock infield there rafael devers became the first player in the modern era to record six hits four doubles the hecuba night and finally in may these supermassive black hole at the core of the milky way became seventy five more times brighter in two hours and no one knows what all right very good. There's mysteries stories out there. Dan thank you get a grasp on some of this stuff. I mean listen. There's a meteoric coming to the earth. That is the size of a football field and it's expected the get here in the fall. Knock on wood. If you agree on the media or the size of a football field is headed towards earth and if it hits if i don't want to alarm people but if it hits and there's a chance it's coming this fall football field okay meteoric. You don't wanna learn people with that. I'm just i want. I want people to prepare. How do you prepare for that. I don't know he doesn't care if you mm prepare dad's right. We get what the valued. I have preparations though i did. I built a safer. You guys are welcome to come over the n._f._l. One believes the witching hour burglars nowhere out of the house at summer but with those new blake x._t. Do cabras. You've always always got is at your home. Pets end deliveries blink x._t. To camera system start at just under a hundred dollars visit blinkprotect dot com slash dad. That's blinkprotect dot com slash dan for all the latest headlines and information tune the sports that are e._s._p._n. Radio all throughout the day download the meantime show featuring lenny her dog with new episodes every wednesday. What did i hear from you chris chris. What were you saying e._s._p._n. Is doing some sort of dog day. Is this the do is this the doings of meena and katie. What does this dog day as penn is doing. I don't know any details about it the s._p._n. Sent out a thing on twitter e._s._p._n. P._r. teasing it saying that on august twenty fourth dogs are going to be taking over e._s._p._n. They're calling it doggies twenty fourth. I love now. What i'm envisioning is kevin to gandhi hosting sportscenter with a poodle okay. Have you heard anything about this as you probably have the most famous dog get the network i do. I haven't heard i've heard about it. I haven't gotten involved. I kind of feel like if kevin does that. It would be imprinting upon my brand. I mean he can do it. If you want. My thing you really coming after the straw man chris just built in his mind they get out of this. He didn't mean to be we. Don't know the gone these doing and we don't even know if he has a thing really. I don't know why he would attack me. Gandhi sneaking out my territory. That's all how did your first broadcast broadcast go for. Those of you do not know meantime says climbed up into the broadcast booth where she's doing preseason games <hes> she's going to hawaii this week to do a preseason using game and einon labyrinths scam unbelievable so proud of evil man oh. Why are you kidding me. I'm going there tomorrow. I in that game by the way guys is on n._f._l. Network so it's a lot easier to watch because my first game with the rams home broadcast but as an away game so it wasn't on game pass it wasn't an n._f._l. Network my parents had to go like do a deep dive into read it. I think their computer is infected now without now because it's a lot easier to watch any of these <hes> how was it though were you nervous. You were scared. Certainly you are overprepared. Yes <hes> all of the above. I did have my true. North the whole time was i wanted to get in a shut up to the guts <hes> subliminal shout out and i did and i'm trying to do one every game in which is my way of enticing people to watch lebatardshow fan. I will get another shoe reference <hes> in the next game. What was the last one they've been peterman. Mint melted my heartache. A fifty one yard screwed all right. <hes> meantime senior writer e._s._p._n. The magazine again you should check out our podcast. It's fun and it's informative features lending her dog new episodes every wednesday so we've got a handful of questions for doc prescott. What is he and what's his value well. I think he's a human quarterback to answer your first question. <hes> this is the kind of analysis that you can search the internet foreign. Get your computer infected by. He's a human quarter after estimates cancer <hes> no he's average right statistically by any measure. He's an average quarterback in because of the nature of the quarterback market an average quarterback. Everybody gets paid like a top of the market quarterback. I think he has shown that with the right context. He can play at a top ten levels which should be enough for the cowboys and i think you can't underestimate how bad that offense scheme has been the last couple of years which makes it hard to evaluate him <hes> but you know his decision making it and sometimes his accuracy has not been <hes> excellent so far but he has the tools to play at a high level. Dallas is gonna pay him. We're having we've replying about this on the show for days and days and it's just hilarious because they're going to pay him. Do you believe a damn was saying last segment that if you put back behind the eagles offensive line which choose great by the way that he becomes carson wentz carson wentz over his last twenty four games has fifty four touchdowns and fourteen interceptions. Do you agree with that. Though no i <hes> carson wentz is much better than prescott or you've been much better than dak prescott who also by the way has all the last year they were injured a little bit at times and he suffered for it has also played with a very good offensive line <hes> when says just shown you know much. I think he's more accurate <hes> he's made more big time. Throws dot chris scott <hes> he's played at a higher level but he of course coming off that injury didn't get that mega-contract because he wanted to take a slightly safer expansion extension credit for the eagles. <hes> ducks going to get paid more than him guys. I've located detail about twenty four th when dogs are taking over e._s._p._n. They're saying it's it's gonna be a real party. They're going to raise the wolf. A party and we were talking earlier earlier in the show. Thank you for all the research. You did there to come up with that. After several minutes of planning time we were talking about kitchens ends and this idea of making your team tougher and hard knocks and gruden. Do you believe in the idea that these very tough men can be made tougher tougher enough to win a super bowl because they're tougher than the other guys. I think it's a lot of posturing. I think it's just a you know a lot of for a while his kitchen jin some of it is new stuff new coach stuff right but some of it is just messaging wanting to send this sort of message out to the world. Hey this is not hugh jackson anymore. We run tough practices kitchens guys in that same breath that he's been saying or the different breath can't say the same thing at one breath. He's been saying oh we're talking. We practice hard. He's also said hey. I'm gonna let baker mayfield odell beckham do your cells and player personality and that's really progressive acid so i kind of think it's a bit of a front. If i'm being honest. It's not really how he's treating his players me. I was watching hard knocks last night and when sean mcvay veigh appeared on my television screen my wife who never asked me anything about sports <hes> she turned to me. She said who is that. What does that mean we should. How should i read yeah. That always means the same thing it always when your wife or your partner does that i'd always mean the same thing. I don't know why you would ask meena. That knows knows abby very well and i'm just wondering what do you think that means you know. She's probably like a hardcore. Football fan been hearing a lot about mcvay sophisticated offense. You've just wanted to have like a discussion with you about it. That's what i was thinking. Andrew lock and through lock's injury status it feels a little bit like those doctors of really messed up that body that all those things are connected. What do you make of the idea that he's not playing in any preseason games. You are you telling me. You don't think it's a good thing the location of his injury has changed everyday and that it's apparently the greatest medical mystery of twenty nineteen <hes>. I'd be freaking out if i was a colts. It's fan. I what scares me dan. It's not just the medical mystery but chris ballard came out and he said well. This is twenty seventeen. We're not just built around one guy anymore. That's not good to hear that because that makes it sound like they're planning on a actually playing regular season games without him. Which is a terrifying prospect. <hes> a bone issue is what jim ursa is saying. I think he was trying to put out the fire but he made it worse but what does that mean. A boat issue was the achilles elise and then it was the bone issue and then now by the way bonus. You would be a hot topic for just putting out some content ideas and then <hes>. I like high ankle so i don't know it's really weird <hes>. Did you see the way aaron. Rodgers responded to a question about his relationship relationship with the flu where he where he just basically says do not come around here asking me for daily updates about my relationship with the boss i hi sorry. How did you pronounce the name of attackers we all do. If you had to say in fact in your analysis right now we demand that you do do it that way. As well this lou <hes> he wouldn't be like anything guys is like a rogers goes out and he ignores all the play it calls and just audible his way through drives but they win. Nobody's gonna talk about his relationship with liver it. Oh it's only a subject of concern is if the team struggles and and then suddenly everyone wants to diagnose by religion right start again. You didn't say by the funny thing is if aaron rodgers goes out and audible wake you drive it can lead you to doing. Nobody's gonna talk about its relationship with much more fun with that. How much how much more fun was that. Oh it's all right. What are you learning about the rams. I'm still puzzled me. I'm still puzzled that they were able to be that kind of slowed in the super bowl still puzzled by the patriots and okay defense summoning their best defensive performance. What have you learned about the rams being around them more than you're around other teams well i. I think that they are very secretive right so it's the preseason and so the adjustments that i personally believe they'll have to make sort of in response to that game and what happened and by the way this notion that other teams in the n._f._l. Can do what the patriots triest did is ridiculous. <hes> that was the product of like bill belichick being and it's same defensive genius in a fairly a very very sophisticated defense that was able to make adjustments that they haven't done the entire season. I don't think it's going to be easy for other teams and i don't think the rams are gonna have to rip like i guess revolutionized their offense or change everything but there we'll be some slight changes. They however plays extremely extremely close to the vest so it's a super vanilla <hes> offense in the preseason. He's not doing any of this stuff stuff. He's gonna do in the regular season enticing you to watch the game not really give us the best thirty seconds. You've got on antonio brown the most the most interesting stuff that you've seen looking there i mean i think that none of this is particularly surprising because he's antonio brown was talented wide receiver the football and that was actually she was interesting to me because i was at raider at the camp in napa the raiders we're talking with the rams and he had been there since o._t._a.'s but everybody was still talking about how how often he was it. O._t._a.'s and that's why you're able to do all of this because he's go the best football player on every field he walks on download the meantime show featuring featuring landing with new episodes every wednesday and you want to tell the people again where they can catch your rams coverage this weekend how easy it is to find you this weekend as opposed to the computer infecting that <hes> your parents found on read it. It's on at ten pm eastern time on n._f._l. Network but you can also use weird internet. What sites do thank you. I appreciate initiated by donlevatar. I know what you like and i give it to you to make you a junkie so that you're listening and you can't help yourself on the stuff that i got a force feed you but i know what you like and i'll give it to you sparingly just to get your dictated still god's you'll stay right there addicted it did and every once in a while. I'll give you smack that. You don't like but that you need. It's medicine you need. It's the whole formula we know. What did you like. It's why you're addicted even though you hate that part of the show v._c.'s lebatardshow with this guy's on e._s._p._n. Radio so one o'clock on sunday this sunday one o'clock eastern on a._b._c. What you're going to get is a new show backstories. What is called don. Van natta is at the head of it is a journalistic enterprise and then it'll be on a bunch of other e._s._p._n. Platforms after it appears <hes> on sunday but don van natta joins us now. Thank you for being on with us don. Can you please tell us. I'm sorry you know what i got the day wrong. It's saturday. It's not sunday on yeah. That's all it should be a large sunday. Dan it is sunday good times the saturday or sunday. Let's get that established sunday. One pm eastern on a._b._c. Okay hundred dollars and can you tell us <hes>. Why did you choose what you chose. And what is it that you're trying to do with the show well. I'll tell i'll answer your second question first and thanks for having me on. I appreciate it back. Story story is an attempt to go back at a great pass sports scandal sports controversy delve into the backstory and tell people something about it. It's a very ambitious goal. We set ourselves. We have five episodes in the first season but it's sort of a combination of thirty for thirty storytelling thing with sort of cold case where i go onto journalism journey and try to tell you something that you didn't know or at least bring fresh perspective fresh insight insight to a scandal that you think you already know everything about and the first episode this sunday is <hes> serena versus the umpire. We're going back to last year's u._s. Open women's final when serena was going to tie the all time record for singles wins <hes> by margaret cho word of twenty four it was supposed to be a coronation for serena and as we all remember <hes> it turned out to be <hes> these multiple clashes with the chair empire by serena gerald named carlos ramos what happened on the court overshadowed naomi osaka the twenty year old <hes> woman from japan who won on her first grand slam and you literally had a champion crying at the trophy ceremony and how that happened it really was the ugliest finish in in grand slam history and why that happened what led up to it what was going on on the court and then the aftermath is what we delve into during the hour that people will i see on sunday afternoon did did happen well. There was a lot of reasons for its do. You're going to have to tune in. I'm i. I don't want to give too many spoilers away but you know the question is who is most at fault all for what happened and that's and that question divided friends at divided families. <hes> what we discovered is serena williams <hes> obviously played a huge role in that what and <hes> refusing to admit there was a clear coaching violation that first coaching violation when serena repeatedly said i don't cheat <hes> and we we actually slow that down almost uproot or film like and show you exactly what happened with a split screen when the coaching signal was given by her coach patrick mirada brought to glue who we interview on camera i went to wimbledon to interview them and where serena's looking and then actually what carlos romo's the chair umpire believed he saw as well. We reveal that <hes> for the first time which i think played a huge role in what happened there was a lot of blame to go around blame for serena blamed for carlos ramos the chair umpire when when sharon pires do their jobs well they're invisible <hes> he was certainly not invisible that day and he let the cote he let the match get out of hand and then and and then the rules of tennis we also look at very carefully to because the rules of tennis arcane or confusing and so we go into a lot of detail about the rules of tennis as well. There's a lot of blamed go round for what happened sunday a._b._c. one p._m. Eastern does pulitzer prize winning journalist don van natta reveal sunday one pm serena serena williams big cheater anyway in other words. Is that what we review. That's right is that you just said. We did zapruder film. I mean why do this film unless you're going to prove he's a cheater. We we don't we don't call her a big cheater in the film dan what show though is remember serena a- ah insisted repeatedly that there was no coaching code violation that she never receive coaching and patrick murata glue her coach told me at wimbledon the first time he ever percents signal in the seven years he's coached serena williams was during that match but we slow it down and you see serena looking over at patrick neurotic lou as he gives these hand hand signals to move up off the baseline in the early part of the second set as she's as serena's losing and she lost the first set six two two asaka and was and was not doing well in the in the second set and we show she looks over and then there's a very interesting little nod then roddick cheater either and so and so i asked barada glue on camera and the episode a very simple question. Why do you not why did you not serena after so she looked at you and gave the signal and people have to tune in at one o'clock on sunday to hear his answer but had started this changes every and liar cheater and and liar one p._m. A._b._c. on sunday what are some other backstories can you tell us. It's a new show debuting on sunday. What are some other other backstories and specifically. Can you do one on that home. Run that bounced off. Jose can say go ahead please. I if we get a second season dan we will absolutely do that because we have got to find out. The back story of that is the second episode. It's coming out in either october early. November is the banning manning of shoeless joe so we've got our first one of something that happened a year ago. Now we're going to one hundred years back in history and and look at the black sox scandal but we're gonna look get the through line from the black socks and the banning shoeless joe to the banning of pete rose thirty years ago for betting on baseball and then fast forward to right now and major league baseball's baseball's embrace of legalized gambling and connect the dots between those three things i interviewed pete rose earlier this summer in las vegas at mandalay bay. It was a fascinating hour and a half interview. I can't wait for folks to see an excerpt that and then the third episode is the cat fishing of anti tau. That'll be out early next year. There is a lot of great bacteria to go one. You're back one hundred years back. You go reasons to on on. Thank you for being on with us. Let me suggest you for the pete rose episode. I am telling you get an interview with billy ray cyrus the way you do it because he's made it as 'cause right this is this is now a session. Pete rose in the hall of fame right. Yeah i think yeah bit more diluted than obsession anything. It's just a couple of interviews. Ah docu series is called back story. It premieres sunday. One pm eastern on a._b._c.'s serena versus the empire don. Thank you for being with us. Thank you guys really appreciate it. Thank you dot balls are jews.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 2)

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 2)

"Travis yes. If you wanna see the last time i checked me to really video. Earth song will be it. This is it. He's like talking about earth and stuff in the song his title earth song although i gotta pull this back i want to look at how much this costs because it looks expensive. Ooh it's pretty good. It's pretty good at this footage of like the africans yes but it's like if the footage of like everyone indigenous people blah blah blah blah and they're michael jackson looking flawless nice. You know walking around going. Wait wait okay. I was dressed awfully nice to be plunging his hands in that muddy field. I'm sure there's a stunt double and cut yeah that's right. Serena took care of her business last night in a minute. I mean what what was it. It was fifty five minutes. I want to say that it was six. One six. One just absolutely destroyed sharipova. Let me describe the scene for you all right. I made myself a cocktail. Write a note fashion if you will so you know it takes a while right and i have those big ice cube maker things so i pour my go to drink. I'm sitting down. I was like and i had some more in the shaker. I never made it to the shaker. Travelers q. was still very whole like it was laughing early melted and melted it all. She beat her ass yeah well. I mean yeah and duh this is this is what happens happens when those two women played to their twenty in two thousand nine hundred put it this way the last time share pover- this is the truth. The last time sharipova pope beat serena coco whose plays today was in diapers. It's been like fifteen years. Yeah i mean i get the the word that we're seeing during the telecast last night. Was this rivalry. It's guys to stop. Stop stop. It's not a rivalry. It can't be a rivalry when one side is beat the other side nineteen times in a row. That's that's a mismatch. That's like an a major league team playing against a high school team. It's just it's it's not a rivalry just because they were both good at one point or another. They were never good at the. I don't wanna say they were never good at the same time. They were serena and sharapova. It's not a you know could no. It's so heavily tilted did toward serena that it's it's almost not worth watching is disrespectful is what it is like. I i understand that you know. Sharipova has five majors serena's one like five times as many major and and and i can't think of another it would be looking at michael jordan and going yeah you know reggie. Miller was your rival. It's like no regimen was a nice player but michael had no rival no and it's we're done with her right. I mean she she's fell out of the top top one hundred last night sharipova and just because we know her name doesn't mean that we have to keep talking. Keep them watching the match. I'm thinking why are we talking about her like she's a relevant person in this sport. She's she's not. Let's talk about serena that is certainly one aspect of the commerce. There was so many moments of shape though i don't know if you picked bernabe say that was happening. How about this. Here's a serena throwing shade at the chair umpire. Carlos ramos deciding not have pros ramose on a good thing. You really can't i. I don't know who that is. We're done right the ah. There really isn't too many things that are more dismissive slash awesome than who. I don't know who that is awesome. I mean how many we've seen jerry jones z. Coup but two straight up be like the umpired you yelled and got fine for last cheers final you all of a sudden like i'm sorry who now what what does this person do for a living amazing. The only thing that was more amazing and i'm not sure if anyone really saw imagine anything like that but sharipova was busted for doping and took and was forced off tour for some time and serena's husband were anti-doping t sir d. a. r. e. on his shirt during the match now that it's like the most beautiful subtle brand of that's subtle subtle because he's still were jacking. He was sitting here with the boat. What is certain subtle because you had to think about it this morning. No no i thought it was like a brand of clothing. It had been the dare that we see on the back of police cars member for a million years. They dare sticker with that right. I didn't tell them suggests say no right. Nancy reagan philosopher actually would have been a deeper shade of shade if he had just want a nancy reagan t-shirt just say how when it got me thinking travis because you're right she she's beaten down nineteen times in a row she owns her. Whatever but all the other you'd think about all of sports all the the other guys or teams that own people you know like the way that lebron james's own the toronto raptors are basically the eastern conference a decade and then the second he left. They took care the business. The second he left into trophy went to like another country. I guess that's true. You know we were talking about a little bit this morning. The one that immediately popped in my head was mike. Piazza roger clements as a base by because again it's always find guess sharipova and serena fond of this a little bit but it's always fun and when the guy on the receiving end of a mismatch like that is also really good like you said sharipova five majors and yet she so oh totally outclassed by serena roger clemens was the best pitcher of his generation. I think it's something crazy like seven cy. Young awards los angeles. Yeah i get that he was on everything fine. I personally don't really care because so as the rest of the league so whatever mike piazza used to wear him out he could not get mike piazza out and it got to the point where clemens did two things number one. He hit him in the crown of his helmet and i thought he'd killed him. When i get him out. That was a way to do it. I mean right on the mets logo. He hit him and it was one of those. I think mike piazza might be remembered that sound now. It turns lights out. I mean he was it was like a cartoon. You could practically see the birds circling head. It was unbelievable and then the other one was where clemens one of the few times where my peers at didn't hit the ball in the barrel era he hit he he jammed up a little bit matter the the bat shatters and he picks up the barrel the bat and throws it at him. Those are the things i mean. That's how in might in roger roger clemens head. Mike piazza was that he was throwing at his head and trying to kill him with bat shrapnel. Yes that's a mismatch that that that is definitely a mismatch. What do you think about bill. Belichick versus paid paid manny owned him <hes> i mean i know he's beaten embracing. Once in the postseason. Yeah sharipova has got to twenty. Two two way back before coca was born right now. That's not a bad one the other one and and it's it's totally flipped on its head in the last ten years or so but this went <music> decades decades was the red sox and yankees where the yankees just abs. You knew you didn't know what was going to happen but you knew something was going to happen. Maybe bucket dan or aaron boone or whoever you just knew it was a matter of time until the red sox imploded and that lasted what sixty years as much domination as serena's how sharipova it's only been over the course of what fifteen years. I think this is fifty. Unfortunately it's gone eight. What do you do with that. You know because if it's something as lasted before anyone in the building was even like thought of and yet that history hangs over you and you know it's our job up to remind current players of their past. What do you do with that if you're a coach so you try. Proteomic is not there. I don't know i think you do all the things that we hear him. Do you do <hes> you know. We none of us were here for that. That doesn't have anything to do with what's going to happen tonight and you lose right. That's when you sit back and say you know what there might be something going on in the universe. It has nothing to do with me. It's bigger than me. That's more powerful than me because there's no reason we should fifty years not being able to beat these guys if the freaking. What do you do if you're jim harbaugh. Everyone expecting you now the urban meyer as decided to stop owning you that you're not supposed to win the big ten. You know if win the big big ten. I shouldn't you just quit. I didn't think it was possible but jim harbaugh makes me kind of root for urban meyer or at least he did when urban meyer was at ohio state i and i just i don't know there's something about horrible. That hits me all wrong. The just it's this sense of arrogance that is not earned like urban meyer fire is not a humble man. Urban meyer is not somebody that doesn't walk around. Nick sabin is a perfect example of this. You know guys that have skins on the wall. Championships players players in the n._f._l. But jim harbaugh walking around like one of those guys and he's not one of those guys right so i liked it when when they were getting stopped by and i don't like ohio state at all but i was. It's always like you know what put her on harbaugh. It is weird. I we cover him with such passion and he has not beaten ohio state ever now. Did you see that i remember game in which they were getting ready to beat ohio state and then you're just like tamer. They cursed yeah yeah well. What was it was it last year or two seasons ago. Where not only they lose. It was the biggest loss in history of that rivalry right. They let them score sixty six hundred eight point yeah stop tomorrow owning. She's he's sharapova. I should say harbaugh's sherpa in this situation. Good luck congratulations to serena congratulations around to hear <hes> here are the details of the dwight right howard contract and this is why this is a good deal for the lakers. They owe him basically nothing. He's gonna earn just shy of fifteen thousand dollars for every today. He's on the roster and that start <hes>. That clock starts on october twenty first so basically they're paying him. What is an n._b._a. Terms i understand in real world terms. This is a lot of money <music> but in n._b._a. Terms a pittance for what they're gonna do and they can cut him loose anytime they want is perfect is literally the definition of ren center yeah yeah they're jerry ran in a day yeah. There's lebron just pay check personally because he's one of the highest paid athletes in the world fifteen thousand dollars. A day for dwight doesn't sound like a lot of money. It's not i mean i'll take it if anybody wants to be fifteen thousand dollars a day to do anything i'll sign up for never demanded politics. I'm happy but yeah no this is why he was <hes> really intriguing option dwight howard fan necessarily. I have no idea whether or not this is going to be a good fit. I have no idea whether or not he's changed his deal but i know that there's no risk here. It's not a financial risk. It's not a contractual risk as far as term. Come in here play if it works. Great will keep paying you and the second it doesn't and by i like the second half dozen by what i what i don't like is then what so you say because the reason already in what right now but the reason why you felt the need to hold these practices with these centers end obviously settling dwight howard is because there was a significant injury to boogie cousins since he likely won't be available to us at all this season and there's a need so if you say goodbye to dwight because i don't know he wants to touch the ball fifteen times in a pain i dunno and you might you might want to but if you say goodbye to him. You still have that need. Now is now joking noah. Somebody else's fifteen thousand dollars the day rental at this point. Who do you like mo speights. Do you try to find kim farid like what's plan b. No what plan d if plan c. default through. I don't know if it matters at that point i if if dwight isn't the answer and then whoever they bring in after dwight isn't the answer i think at that point you just say we're going to have to figure a way to do it without that piece because you can't keep the lakers are not gonna win a championship or not based on their center. That's gonna play fifteen minutes a night and how effective he is. I disagree you really yeah. Why why would that be the peace. They're they're six seventh most important guy on the roster the piece that determines whether or not you win would it depends upon where how you finding importance because if every single time anthony davis sits down your paint becomes a runway for posing point guards and shooting guards each you up that fifteen minutes matters it means. You have a point lead with a._d. Sits and he comes back and you're down again because you can't stop anybody. There's no deterrent deterrent. You can't get offensive or defensive rebounds so it matters those ten to fifteen minutes. They matter especially for a team that is let's just say little longer than tooth when it comes perimeter defenders raison rondo throw in lebron coups is not necessarily shutdown permanent defender. I mean you really looking got a lot of guys who knows how to play spatial defense and knows how to funnel guys to certain directions but if you don't have a center to clean up the mess then in what what sort of funneling for i sure but i've already jumped passed the night in and night out maneuverings of this team. I'm thinking about what is going to look like post april fifteenth when the playoffs start and whether and we know look the lakers unless a catastrophe takes place are gonna make the playoffs yes the the lakers are going to go into the playoffs assuming anthony davis and lebron james calicoes and that core is healthy danny any green. Those guys are healthy then. I'm not worried about who plays those ten because those ten minutes become six minutes that it's it's not where we have to get through fifteen minutes without a center we gotta we gotta find a way to not let them kill us in the six minutes that we're gonna give anthony davis off tonight because you're not playing back to backs you. You can you go from playing and guys thirty two minutes to play in forty two minutes a night. We just gotta get through six. I'm that's what i'm thinking about much more so than hey you know what we're going to have to play dwight howard twenty minutes tonight tonight against the phoenix suns because we play last night in sacramento and that's less interesting to me the finished product. I don't necessarily care about what happens statistically turing the regular season but defensive scheme i'd do care i do care because i can remember several possessions during the n._b._a. Finals and which draymond green was simply unable to secure a defensive rebound and time and time again kawai or siaka was able to get multiple possessions during gains because they couldn't secure those rebounds and i look and i go i get it. We got a d the gadget mcgee but if vail gives him foul trouble which you know he's prone to do happen not impressive. He gives them foul trouble and they d- needs to sit down and take six minutes. Breather helps to make sure you have a guy in there who could secure those rebounds limited possessions on the team's going to get you. You were being very generous when you're talking about the lakers being long in the tooth certain positions. I'm going through this. These guys are gonna play heavy minutes thirty three years old regime rondo thirty one years old jail vale mckee lebron james thirty four years old white howard thirty three years old jared dudley thirty-four danny green thirty two demarcus cousins is hurt but twenty nine nine years old got guys all on the wrong side of thirty. They're gonna play heavy. Heavy minutes and cut can raj and chris actually actually stay quiet for an entire segment. The answer is only minutes away on the morning show all right. Thankfully we're getting close to the end of the exhibition season the real season right around the corner in carolina on week one join us right now on field reporter super bowl champion dimarco fargo. What's happening folks democracy swiss. They switched a song on your brother. They are you can eat. Did you hear that attention eliminated. I can block out the noise democra- let's start here when you guys were on the field. Call him on saturday. The news of andrew luck retiring from the colts broke. Was there a ripple that went through the sideline about andrew luck halfway across the country. Oh man it was funny. Somebody kept tugging at me and i'm on the oh i don't see if we can get <hes> demarco bekker's. I i like any story to play in the song eh. I don't know where to go into disappeared on you. Remember any any <hes> february's videos. I know the fat boys but i don't remember this. Let me just when i was telling chris is probably the best one all you can eat so their whole gig was that they were guys that like to eat fat. Everyone one likes to eat fat. It'd be like if you demarco and chris had a group. That's offensive comfortable taking my medicine. That's fun. I ashamed i can't tell i ate my way into this. Nobody's stopping off. He would bring in yeah look. I'm not gonna let it sit there. Oh no the video from the popeye sandwich thing from last week where he like it starts z z like gently putting on a pickle and then all of a sudden here. Your comes travis just annihilating that sam's good sandwich now. Let's try this again tomorrow. You started your story about andrew lucked at somebody was tugging ganja and then we lost your what what happened after that just sideline people talking to me during the game so finally i when we have a break i turn around and say you know what do you need. What do you want. He goes andrew luck retired and and i thought he was kidding. Like what are you talking about. He retired and then slowly but surely i sent it upstairs so they can check you know the the laptops and whatnot yeah man he had retired man. I am not lying well as i'm sitting there in the calcium watching a football game i i thought my initial thought was probably just like the colts fans boo really you're gonna quit on your guys now but when you see the video when you see him walk off the field getting mood and you can tell us starting to bother him <hes> of course your position or mind softened and then read into with more i get it bro. Football is tough. It's brutal. <hes> i had a teammate alexander right. You guys remember him. <hes> chris berman named him. If loving you is is wrong. I don't wanna be right. He was the fastest man in the n._f._l. He retired in two thousand or nineteen ninety-six right as we were going out to practice and i'm like ace. We gotta title practice. Come on man we can still get them. He looked me right in the eye and just said d i am duns and i knew he was just over the fire had gone out and there's nothing you can knew at that point. When that fire goes out you might as well just exit stage left football to play for you has football been smothered and thus can be rekindled hindle was this was all the kids like drenched in water and there's no hope for angela coming back well. I know it's funny and i'm sure you guys have touched don it. <hes> you've talked about indianapolis. You've talked about their old g._m. Ryan giggs and guy. I know <hes> i think he was a scout with the rams way back when so when he got the job i was happy but then and you get andrew luck and then you don't really put pieces around him to <hes> to to to make him better <hes> to protect him so to speak and he gets blasted out. Are there just like any other first round quarterback that goes to a franchise that doesn't know how to protect their their number one asset so you know watching this guy compete <hes> knowing that he really doesn't have the protection but he's still in football games. He's still finding ways to beat you. He's still finding ways to throw for four thousand yards. You know he special <hes> just when you get hit that much and you get hurt that much in a short period of time i can see how that would denture passion so like i said man. If that fire is gone <hes> he might as well just like you said don't steal. This is what i respect more about him. Go ahead and retire and don't hang around the league just stealing paycheck knowing that you really don't wanna play football anymore. Demark afar joining us here on the morning show demarco not that the n._f._l. Is going to run out of football players but we might see more of this that because of the money i mean andrew luck left a ton of money on the table but it also banked ninety four million dollars rob gronkowski bank two ton of money. He walked away at twenty nine years old or are we going to see more and more guys just say you know what i don't have to do this anymore. I have enough money for me for my family for whoever i need to take care of. I'm not doing this anymore. This feels like the j._c. Story like jay z as an owner in the n._f._l. N._f._l. Okay you're going to have to really convince me. This is a bad thing <hes> a guy. That's done it right. Went to stanford has a degree. He's got the connections like you said he's made a ton of money and he doesn't need the game to survive so he can walk away on his own terms. I hold that up as this is a good example of what it means to be a pro <hes> the guys that that have to keep playing until their mid thirties close to their forties because they've got bills to pay or they didn't do it the right way. <hes> that's bad. That's how you wind up disabled disabled in your forties fifties and sixties and whatnot so i mean like you said this is a brutal football game. It's a sport of the young <hes> they're always producing guys that want to take your job and if you think there's gonna be a shortage of football players right so this is funny. How about this for backdrop. I'm waiting for the pro team. Run out while i'm watching the rams play in the coliseum. They had a shortage of football players. You know what i mean. There's kids are playing every day. This is a beautiful team sport. It's a great way to learn about team sports <hes> so you might see more of this. I remember chris borland retired up in san francisco after year number one and they thought this was going to be <hes> the the signal to a lot of snap retirements and it really didn't happen so <hes> guys play for different reasons so this was andrew lockhead had reached his end but this isn't true for ninety five percents league obviously when one door closes one opens in for the coast the door opening percent standing right there saying hey guys this is he the long-term answer or is he just a stopgap. You know i'd like to see <hes> i i. I've always had respect for him. He's you know a really smart and talented quarterback. <hes> you know you're never sure how your chances are gonna come. I mean i'm sure he probably knew since he's in the same room with andrew lock <hes> that this was coming so maybe if andrew luck doc is the guy that i think he is. He might have whispered. Hey man you need to get ready to start this year. You're not gonna be backing me up. You're going to be the guy and if you see percents first press conference post. I andrew lock retirement. He seems like he's ready for the moment <hes> like this isn't a shock to him so he's got the talent. He's got the opportunity now. Let's see what he does with demarco for joining us demarco the rams opening carolina cam newton got hurt in a preseason game any doubt in your mind. The cam newton is going to be the quarterback week one for the for the panthers. No i was going to be out there <hes> he's. He's paid to be the franchise guy. The rams are coming down. You know he's going to take the football now. The game plan is is going to be a little bit different. You know this if you can't run <hes> so expect a lot of shotgun expect a lateral throws expect that offense to do everything they can to keep aaron donald off off their quarterback because even a healthy cam. Newton is in trouble with this guy so a guy. That's hamstrung can't can't move a little bit. Help your quarterback out. I take some smoke off your offense but i think cam newton is going to be out there because you're going to be out there. You know i it seems like maybe dallas is starting to come around a little bit <hes> i i know this. I know his representation and i haven't met <hes> zeke but just reading the comments. I kind of understand where he's coming from. I don't think he's going to bend. You're going to have to meet him at his demands because he's right <hes> so i think dallas <hes> they're they're. They're playing the game. They should plan the one thing that i took out from all this stuff. Coming out of dallas was they don't wanna be the team that sets the market. I get that so this will go down to the wire but i i i would bet zeke. Elliott is back for week one if not if not week one then definitely week too because you definitely need him to win demarco. We were talking earlier. You're about the rams season last year. Where obviously thirteen three record super bowl parents. A lot of stuff has to go right but you go back to that packers game where they were fortunate that time montgomery brings it. Go back to the monday night game fifty four fifty one that one could have gone either way the call in the n._f._c. championship game. We all know about that how much of where they got to was i don't wanna say it's lucky key because that implies that it's completely random but just a lot of things that could have gone either way went their way and does that stuff typically happen a couple of years in a row. It's funny. When you mentioned the word luck. <hes> coaches don't like to say we got lucky but they will. They will freely admit that luck was involved. Does that make sense. It's coachspeak so when we won. The super bowl dick for meal is not shy about saying <hes>. We were very good. We re very prepared. We were conditioned and we were also. We had a lot of luck on our side. The ball bounced are way more often than not so <hes>. Sometimes you have years like that where the ball just seems to bounce to you now. You have to capitalize take advantage in d. ready for the moment <hes> there have been teams that had had similar chances that luck was with them and they failed to cash in and wound up eight seven to nine so <hes> you no matter what even with the luck you still have to be ready to win <hes> but i i think the one lucky thing if you could carry over from last season two this season is the health of the offensive line. You know if you have all five guys starting all sixteen eighteen weeks. You're going to be pretty good regardless of what you have around you so now put that a healthy offensive line that stays upright with goth with a healthy todd early in that receiving core then i think the offense picks up right where it left off defensively. I think they're gearing up to be better really watching that preseason game <hes> and watching wade phillips and what he did what he called. He's giving you a glimpse of what you're going to see in the regular season so i'm looking at the coast ours the stand-ins aaron donald and clay matthews and fowler and saying okay if the offense tries this with those three guys. You don't have a prayer so either. It's gonna be a sack. They're going to blow it up. Are you can't run that play against this defense so <hes> if the offense offense continues to improve like i think it's going to <hes> i think this defense has a chance to be better than last year and one of these you can point to and says that could be a top ten top out five feet demarco very quickly serena williams nineteenth mattress sharipova. What is your favorite own situation in terms of teams only another another athlete owning another <hes> in in that regard there isn't one. I think the best was the washington generals and the globetrotters. Why why are we even in <hes> insulting serena calling this a rivalry thank you thank demarco will be on the sidelines <music>. Thanks for marco. We'll kishan finally have enough of the bids find out next on the morning earning show a little while ago elsey at his top ten on top ten artists they made amazing music videos and it wasn't a horrible top ten for one now that got us talking about michael of course then we play the earth song because we all kind of like that video lousy did and i thought that was really expensive but that isn't that expensive the most expensive music video ever made scream michael and janet in one thousand nine hundred five back then it costs seven million dollars adjusted for inflation eleven point five million dollars for this music video. That's crazy in an average song. I would say below average. If the right liquor the right dancefloor he just like goes the i said if you told me michael and janet a and we're about to do a song slash video my all snaps there's going to be good and i was like oh and they dance together play for real brief period of time because we we thought they would just go like go at it. They dance together for like a little tiny little segment lou expecting like a dance fight like as a comparison thriller cost back then in one million adjusted for inflation two point five million so this video cost nine million dollars more than through flash bang. What's the top five. I five is scream. Madonna di another day which was eight point five million jose madonna express yourself hand point one million madonna bedtime story eight point two million guns and roses strange. I don't know what that is. Six point nine million drivers started liking to win actual got behind the piano and ruined michael black or white which was a great video seven point three million on that list. You had the right person at number one she she she has a nice. She has an eye ear if she could sing choubey unstoppable well. Apparently she's got something going on. Donald demarco said did i ask them the question about. Do you think what andrew luck did will become more common and i want to be very precise in what it is that i'm saying. I'm not suggesting that all of a sudden every year the n._f._l. Is going to have a twenty. Five percent. Turnover rate because guys are leaving. That's that's not my thought but my thought is that thing about saturday afternoon when the when when the news at andrew luck who is retiring it was oh my what he is why what happened. It was genuinely shocking. Andrew luck doc was leaving not unlike when barry sanders left was almost twenty years ago now when berry decided to leave it was weak he is and then it was twenty years prior to that with jim brown so so the question i have is is that when you look at what we know now combined with the money that's available to the very best players rob gronkowski leaving leaving twenty nine andrew lock leaving at twenty nine. Is this going to become one of those things in instead of oh my gosh. This guy retired is a oh yeah. There goes another one because because for one hundred million and what i'm doing to earn that hundred million is increasing my chances of parkinson's alzheimer's l._s. dementia and every hit that i taking a significant amount. I'm leaving well. The theme is interesting. Is that what you're talking about. That dynamic is starting starting so much earlier. Now you know high school. Football participation has been on the decline between two thousand one and two thousand eight increase by eight percent at the two thousand eight. It's been sliding down what happened in two thousand eight. We'll go back and look at the media. Look at the coverage of c._t._e.'s look at the lawsuits discussion about player earlier safety and health players falling dead on the field because too much practicing in the heat. All these things now have turned football in general for me any sport in which parents are encouraging their kids to participate in to a sport that they're now steering them away from so that's this generation now that are percolating eighty up the informed generate circulating around. It's it's that combined with. You know what i don't have to play until i'm thirty five. I can play till i'm twenty seven and if i'm a quarterback i can. I can make enough money to where i don't need to worry about me. My mom and dad add my kids their kids we can put were good and i think i'm assuming at some point. We're gonna get a more in-depth idea on why interlock made the decision that he did because obviously injuries are a big part of it but i think we'll get a more fully fleshed out picture of the decision process and i can't imagine that there's somebody like luck who all the things we're talking about. He's got a he's got a degree from stanford. He has varied interest away from football that his awareness of that didn't contribute to that decision and more and more guys are gonna fall in the same category absolutely as as i said that's the media coverage has been going on and people are realizing now that there are completely health issues tied to it the deciding to stick around is this doesn't make sense anymore especially if you've got enough money in the bank blue blue keyshawn finally have enough of the bits find out next on the morning show this the good old days right here boy morning morning television is this is golden rosenstone to win you know he we herman him sixty seven years old p._b. Venture there was a great movie. I was a funny movie yeah but you know what else is intense traff. All right. Andrew lock is out. Jacoby <unk> is in in indianapolis. Jacoby perset will lead the the colts to an a._f._c. south championship a hill out of that sick and the hell out of shake shake it is i can see they're stuck in playhouse in your house. <hes> i'm shaking. Take jacoby percent that is all for nine against teams that finished season with a winning record overnight not a good status not a good stat so if you're asking me if all of a sudden now <unk> over nine is gonna turn into you know five and two or something like that. I'm telling you now no problem and i know that a lot of people are thinking jacksonville because they've got that defense offensive got nick foles. They've got an upgrade quarterback. It's still houston right. I mean they just shawn watson and deandre hopkins and their defense is serviceable. It's going go through houston yeah all right next one. The rams say they're not worried about doing a deal for jared goff anytime soon that they'll get to it when they get to it. The rams will sign jared goff to a got new contract before the end of the season. Take it or shakin. I'm going to shake it off i can. I don't recall aw there being a scenario with this rams organization in which contracts like this gets resolved during the season. I recalled autumn all happening. You know during the off season. I recall them happened during the preseason but i don't recall them doing it during the season which kennedy kennedy tells me they just don't like mixing that business with the other business so yeah. I think they're going to get to it eventually but i will be shocked at. There's an announcement in the middle the season i think it will happen because it's just one of the things we know what the number is going to be roughly. We know that he they're gonna do it. We know that it's going to happen sometime between today and the beginning of next season and i'm sure it's just a matter of like he says all the time. It's not a matter of what the number is how. We're gonna pay this money out when it gets cold out. It's it's going to happen. There's no acrimony there. It seems like it's it's never going to be easier to do that would be when no one's really looking. I wouldn't be surprised if in the middle of the season all of a sudden you know what jared goff roth agreed to a thirty five million dollars a year contracts and wouldn't surprise me at all again. It's just the timing's not in that. They've done hundred were you says that fatigue is not the factor for his recent backslide. A little bit real will be just fine in the playoffs. Shake it because he turning vegan anytime. I'm going to take it. He's gonna be just fine. He's going to be fine because he's going to get his rest now. He can say he's not fatigue and that's fine and dandy for fodder but you're a big boy. Yes along season. Yes we're going to rest you look i. He's awesome and he pitched well in the playoffs last year. He's a he's a really really good pitcher but he also every season has missed some time which allows him to for lack of a better phrase catches breath a little bit and get right for the the the the stretch he's overweight and he's and its g- i don't care if you pitch for six months straight and i know they gave him a little. I l stint where it's ten days or whatever just to basically not pitch for a little while but i'm telling you if they pitch him even on an abbreviated schedule through the line. I worry about his fitness at the end. They're both literally and figuratively because that's a lot pitches. It's a lot of innings. He's a big boy indeed. He is all right germy. Lynn has signed a contract to go play in china china. People will remember jeremy lin's run in the n._b._a. Ten years from now take it or shakin. I'm going to take it <music>. I'm gonna take it because the n._b._a. Is of all the sports that we have here in our leagues the most global and because of that we pay attention still to global icons. We'll always remember dirk. We're always gonna remember hakeem olajuwon and as long as new york city is exists. They're going to win sanity until they win a championship which they won't be doing in the next ten years so they'll always have them in san dirk and the dream were hall of fame players so they're easy to remember durkan. The dream both won and championships so they're easy to remember. I know that jeremy lin has a championship because he was on the raptors last year but when they would cut to the bench and you saw you're like oh right jeremy lin. I remember that guy. It had already gone a minute and we all loveland. Sanity was incredible the way that it happened where it happened. That was such a unique leaks story but that's going to be one of those things that i wouldn't even get if it's ten years might be shorter than that. You and i don't remember because we're immersed in it every day but the average american he what was that that guy's name for the next it just showed up out of nowhere. I think we're closer to that than anything. As long as new york exists in the lowest ramona can do a podcast. We'll jeremy land back. Toback covers a sports illustrated mohammed ali michael jordan jeremy lin. I have both of those still the s. is yeah. I don't know why he it was. An extraordinary with is extra. He was barely in the league and he was the story of the league for what a month for a solid month and then carmelo has got healthy. Yeah whoops yeah. Keep passing it. We're going to need to get him outta here and was probably didn't work out so rob. Gronkowski says that he could come back to the n._f._l. If he wanted wanted to we'll see rob gronkowski in the twenty one thousand nine n._f._l. Season take it or shake it. I take it all not as a player. You'll be in the stands clapping asa like we saw him on e._s._p._n. Red carpet do looks like he started eating. Let's just say more <hes> baked and boiled chicken as opposed to fried chicken. He's a lot smaller. He is and there are things you can do to get bigger quicker. I just don't think that he's going to do those things. I think he's just talking to be talking. I think play. I play this season but i think he'll come back and play. He's he's a football player and i know he's got other interests. I know that he's got in the weight thing like if he can get it off fasting back on that fast here. He's not jason window. Jason witten thought he had another life outside of football then he tried it and and realize oh i guess i don't so then he came back. Rock actually does any probably is getting interest. He's doing the new hobson shaath film you know in two years from now he might end up being a stormtrooper in the next star wars. He has the kind of personality and that kind of interest. I think he's going to be just fine. He does but again. I know i i think rob gronkowski is there's two two guys. There's rob gronkowski who the real guy inside of him and then there's the guy that he adopts the persona that dobbs gronk. Who's all the things that you said they're both real but i think that the rob gronkowski the football player is still living in there and if all of a sudden the patriots say hey look we got five games left this season. We need you. We need you. Let's go get another one of these things. That's a really hard thing to say no to hits that he's no longer take. It'd be again like anything else. If you're away from it for a while. You won you forget into you think i feel. I'm feeling pretty good. I can do it. We've all we've all had that moment where been away from something for a while and you forget how much it stinks where there's an old joke about women having kids like if you can remember what it was like. You've never have another one right and people have more than one. It's pretty awful experience for the most part people come back and do it again. The time fades those memories yeah i i. I'll take your word for it. I've never had a kid. You never know you never know what's up shake. It is made possible by blue. Go to blue dot account chew dot com use the promo code seven ten and us pay five dollars shipping youtube could chew it and do it.

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"The following podcast contains explicit language. Hello i'm josh le'veon's plates plates national editor and the author of the queen nisa slates sports podcast hang up and listen for the week of august nineteenth two thousand eighteen on this week. Show we'll talk about jay z's new partnership with the n._f._l. What it means for the league and he still unemployed colin kaepernick also discussed joseph size multibillion dollar deal deal to buy the brooklyn nets the highest price ever paid for an american sports franchise finally will select the words that we would like to ban from these sports lexicon joining me in washington d._c. Studio is a high character guy the author of the book word freak and if you talking to panic stephan fats <music> hi motor to just want to point out that's implicit also with us this week from our studio in brooklyn. It's the guy who brings the intangibles he the theater critic for the new yorker and a charter member the fan club for r. J. barrett ak the maple mamba. It is our friend vince cunningham vincent. Hey i am all of those things. That's true <hes> before we get onto business today. I wanted to let folks know that hangup. Alum mike pesca is doing a live of it show at the bell house in brooklyn. It's on monday september sixteenth. That show is the gist comedy special it will feature hari kondabolu blue among many others tickets are twenty bucks and you can get them at slate dot com slash life. Go see pasqua the n._f._l. Didn't look so great when it became public a couple of weeks ago that one of its franchise owners billionaire stephen ross of the miami dolphins was hosting a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar alert per person fundraiser for donald trump in the hamptons ross defended himself in a statement touting a sports nonprofit. He runs and calling himself an outspoken outspoken champion of racial equality dolphins wide receiver kenny stills called bullshit on the dissonant messaging and during a preseason game knelt during the national anthem as he has done in the past to support banished quarterback colin kaepernick and racial justice ross held as event which combined with another one to raise twelve million dollars for trump. This is not where the n._f._l. Figured it would be at the start of the twenty nine thousand nine season not after taking all the crisis management handbook steps to quell criticism that it was insensitive at best to the concerns of its predominantly african american workforce it had settled a grievance filed by capper nick that the league's thirty be two teams had colluded not to hire him it had created a program to spend one hundred million dollars on social justice issues and last week and what the league must've figured it would be the final final piece of its rehabilitation it announced it was partnering with rapper and entertainment mogul jay z as part of that program that last thing quickly backfired the the j._c. Deal was criticized for what it mostly seems to be a music promotion contract with kapernick. Ally eric reed of the carolina panthers tweeting. Jay z. doesn't need the n._f._l. Helped to address social injustices. It was a money move for him and his music business the n._f._l. Gets to hide behind his black face to try to cover up blackballing colin vincent the n._f._l. Can't seem to get out of its way on this issue but really is there any reason to believe the n._f._l. Should be capable of getting out of its own way here. It's it's unclear to me. What is in the n._f._l.'s way him how it thinks it's getting over what that is right. I mean if you believe last. Here's statistics like they're kind of fine. It's like there are all these <hes> symbolic things that it seems totally inept. I mean it. That's always is going to be the case if everybody that's your big stakeholder as like an elderly white guy right like that's just how it's gonna go like a lot of rich people who don't have necessarily merrily the the reasons or the wherewithal to keep up with the ever moving political debate and people who are probably essentially conservative at heart <hes> but what they can't can't are these these symbols in i think the capper nick affair has been all about symbols and it won't ever be resolved dryden until there's a sort of commensurate symbol at its end. I think that's what the the frustration with this jay z thing. It's just like well. It didn't end because no one's what whether the symbolic alec thing. Is you know giving capper. Nick another contract or whatever that is the the sort of symbolic of it has not finished even though the sort of business this fundamentals for the n._f._l. Seem to be kind of untouched. There's this weird disconnect between whether the league is doing well on a sort of base level and weather weather. It is sort of broadcasting all the right signals to those who are sort of alive to hear them. I think your premise stephan is a little bit more more questions than maybe made. It seem speaking of like whether this backfired for the n._f._l. Was a bad new cycle for the n._f._l. But got you know perhaps goodell in the league. Were thinking that this was mostly a music and entertainment deal. This was a deal jay. Z is going to produce produce some songs for the league to use and marketing. He's gonna program the super bowl halftime show. Perhaps this will stave off the possibility of three doors down being the <music> halftime at the super bowl which then that would have been a bad thing for for the n._f._l. To make the super bowl trump inauguration ball but <hes> you know the social justice component. Maybe that was just they thought it was a bonus like let's also as we're programming the super bowl. Let's kind of toss the sand and maybe get some good press for it. They in fact do not get and that's the problem. It's the the n._f._l. Believes that it's doing things again. The come out of crisis management playbook that in the end are completely counterproductive that they think that oh we're being great here. Hey it's jay z. <music> big-name rapper has been involved in social justice issues in the past. How can it go wrong if we partner with them. Well it can go wrong because he can get up to. The microphone founded basically insult colin kaepernick a lot of people and a lot of n._f._l. Customers still ally with and feel was done wrong. I mean jay z. said i think we've moved past kneeling. I think it's time to go into actionable items which is kind of a shitty thing to say. We got caught. We get stuck on colin not having a job. You know what i'm saying in this is more than that dave's iron said vinson <hes> picture roger goodell laughing his ass off that jay z catching all the flak instead of stephen ross or himself for copper knicks exile and the league's trump's support jay z. was paid well to become a different kind of shields. What do you think of that take. I think it's essentially salihi correct. I mean i do think that there is a certain clueless nece where like i'm sure a lot of n._f._l. Owners are genuinely excited to be like oh jay z's here in the same way that like last last year for example robert kraft who apparently helped to craft this deal between <hes> jay z and roger goodell robert kraft he he was super excited to to be seen helping meek mill get out of jail last year right. I mean i think there is some sort of sincere possibly clueless interest there on behalf of these guys in sort of commensurately rich black sort of cultural icons but in another sense i think there is that shield aspect aspect and my sort of corollary for this sort of climate change in a weird way i think the n._f._l. Knows in the same way that many citizens know that like there's little they can do to really turn back the ravaging effects of whether it's the climate or their their reputation but they have sort of switched into a mitigation mindset. I think that this like it's not going to be a great <hes> new cycle. No one's ever gonna say like the n._f._l. Is fixed <hes> but they might spend some time talking about some some aspect or another of the the sort of little moves they do to look a little bit better and i think if they're doing this kind of blocking and tackling <hes> <hes> no pun intended <hes>. I think that's kind of fine for them. I think they've mitigated a look into some of the deeper darker issues except that there there is a way to do this right. I mean the n._b._a. Has demonstrated that it is possible to have white guys running your league at the very top positions and yet to genuinely humanly and sincerely show that you care about these issues and that you are connected to the players and i mean maybe we've done too much unfair criticism of the deal the n._f._l. Did cut with this players coalition last year. That was the group that malcolm jenkins of the eagles as ended up spearheading players like eric reed backed out of it because they felt that it was run by the n._f._l. That it wasn't sincere but there've been some defenses of the work that that's going on with fat. That seemed pretty legit. Benjamin watson of the patriots tweeted a defense of his work and the work of other players in this in this group yeah i mean there's a genuine i think difference of opinion and there has been for the last year plus if not more between the capture nick read faction and the jenkins watson faction and i think you can now say the jay z. As part of the malcolm jenkins players coalition group about what the approach should be about whether are there any approach is good or fair justified. If it does not involve kapernick you know being a part of that group and it does is not involve a deal to get capper nick back on the field and i can understand the perspective of somebody like watson and i think thank you vince and back to the question of whether jay z is being used as a shield. I think the reason that he's being talked about here more than anyone else isn't necessarily because he is more to blame. It's because his role here is genuinely the most confusing like you know what the n._f._l. Is getting out of this. You know where eric agreed and colin kaepernick are coming from but jay z is somebody who has spoken out very strongly it loudly defensive colin kaepernick. He wore a cabernet jersey on saturday saturday night live. He has been one of the loudest and most prominent voices around the trayvon martin case around khalif browder and didn't he do some lyrics tell the n._f._l. Stadiums to in one of the songs yeah yeah and so i think it it is interesting and again confusing to think about what is jay z's thought process here and he didn't really do an amazing job in that press conference of explaining explaining it yeah. It's it's it's confusing and it's not right. It's confusing if you think of jay z. person <hes> and not to get all like bernie but like it's not confusing if if you think of him as a billionaire like nobody makes as much money as he has without doing things that are sort you've <hes> perhaps contradictory or hypocritical <hes> we're gonna talk about the nets later but he he definitely played a similar similarly really sort of laundry role in making the net seem a little bit less nefarious when barclays <hes> used eminent domain to clear out a whole section of brooklyn to create a stadium right. This has been one of his cultural roles to sort of provide cover for sort of dubious outfits. I think that's fair to say well. Hop in and ask you about what jemele hill road which is jay. Z. didn't always have the luxury of avoiding leading relationships and partnerships with people disagreed with their disliked but then jamal says in this case jay z isn't getting enough out of the deal to justify the sacrifice of some of his credibility ability. Does she know how much getting that week. That's something we can say on this podcast from <hes> as much as i liked mel hill i just i don't know that that's necessarily <hes> the case and by what sort of rubric moral financial whatever you would even say how you know whether how how much is enough and then yeah i think that jay z and roger goodell lost the press conference and again. I get back to saying that. I think we're being a little premature to say that this backfired on the league like let's you know we're going to have to wait eight months or years to see what jay z does do with this or get out of this to to really come to a final conclusion but the one way of reading it as of the n._f._l. As a p._r. Mission thought that this would look good and explicitly chose to link a perfectly rational all business alliance with jay z the entertainment mogul with this other problem that they have and the unspoken part of the the whole problem is that it all emanates from colin kaepernick all of this is colin kaepernick's doing and the n._f._l.'s never going to acknowledge that we're taking these steps book because we fundamentally agree with look positions that colin kaepernick was arguing when he took any me and stood his ground and refused to co opt his principles to get back into the league and put his money where his mouth is and has become first and foremost a up a social justice entrepreneur but yeah and i think to the point about symbols. They're never never going to look good right in the way of you know you think about the what the n._b._a. Has done partially by not putting itself into situations like this to begin with but it's like they're never going to to do that unless they take that sort of path of contrition and say what you just sad and say not only do we agree with the things that he was standing for but lee were wrong to prohibit a certain kind of protests and a all of the things that we've talked about because it's been about those two things right that's part of the confusion matt. It's been about the substance of the issue but also about this sort of legitimacy of a private corporation calling certain kinds of protests right. They're never gonna look good in the way that we wanted to look good unless they say these things that they're just not going to say and they have. They're not gonna do that yeah. They're not going to do and when they tried to do it. They bring someone like jay. Z who kind of said it but he said it's it's oh so ineffectively and critically that it sounded like he was criticizing kapernick as opposed to supporting him so back to a couple of weeks ago <hes> jeremy stall our colleague wrote the league would never have been put in a position to fund any kinds of social justice causes if it wasn't trying to control the movement that colin kaepernick started and so i think you could reasonably argue that the whole reason the jay z. has the opportunity to that stands at a press conference and say we need to stop kneeling because colin kaepernick knelt in the same place so it just <hes> that that greats <hes> <hes> michael harriett road on the route that any social justice partnership with the n._f._l. That doesn't include colin kaepernick not only lets the owners off the hook and validates their shadow ban dan but it essentially prophets from the movement that he started and hands the proceeds to the n._f._l. Two things so <hes>. I think were being a little little bit. I don't know if naive is the right word but even if the n._f._l. Hadn't said anything about social justice in relation to partnering with jay z he still would have come in for criticism in the league would have to i mean with the super bowl halftime show last year that ended up with maroon five leading the bill. There was just like a succession of reports of black entertainers performers who were reported to be linked to add who said that they didn't want to be involved and so it's become i'm this kind of litmus test of like. Will you do business with the n._f._l. And that comes up whether the n._f._l. Makes it a social justice partnership explicitly explicitly or not and then the second thing is that when we're trying to answer jamal hills question of whether jay z. got enough out of this there. There was a report in t._m._z. that <hes> jay z. is going to become part owner of an n._f._l. Team so we we don't know if that is you know. Ninety percent eighty eighty six percent one hundred percent or lasts but that's a report that was out there. It does make me think you know that the in some ways the the n._f._l. Has been shrewder than we give them credit for in their choice of jay z. I i mean in some ways. Obviously he's the obvious choice but it does. This kind of move does also align very closely with the kind of aesthetics and philosophy that jay z has been putting forward for like. I guess you could say the last five years <hes> his last album for forty four was all about like part of it was about sort of atoning for cheating on his wife but then the other part of it the other main <hes> strain of it was like you young guys gotta to get him to what i'm doing like. You got to buy property and you got to <hes> get off. You know you can't make change unless you get a seat at the table with in in tables like a presumably this one with roger goodell and the n._f._l. Ownership right <hes> he has put forward a sort of in the seat at the table has been sort of consistent with him and so in some ways. It's not surprising to hear this and i can imagine him <hes> ardently believing the things that he said at that press conference was which is we've passed beyond the symbolic part of this and now it's like now. Somebody's has got to be at the table to make to make these changes <hes> he even said like so that the next time there's a someone con cabinet and somebody has these issues like this they can bring them to to honor shepper they can bring them to the league and it doesn't have to play out on the field chilling to me but again consistent with this sort of like booker t. washington washington ism that he has been putting forth for a while now. Maybe we're missing the long game here which is that when jay z becomes an owner. He's gonna bring in kapernick and then he will cackle and say that was his plan all of them not holding my breath for that. 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You're celebrating savor this season with a fall favorite sam adams octoberfest sam adams octoberfest game while it's here the boston beer company boston massachusetts savor the flavor responsibly responsibly a decade ago mikhail prokhorov acquired eighty percent of the then new jersey nets basketball team him for two hundred twenty three million dollars and the assumption of a bunch of debt he sold forty nine percent of the team to joseph cy the co founder of alibaba the chinese john a few years ago for around a billion dollars and last week sold the remaining fifty one percent two cy for one point three five billion the valuation asian of two point three five million dollars makes it a record purchase price for a sports franchise. That's right the brooklyn nets founded in nineteen sixty seven as part part of the american basketball association all time winning percentage four thirty two sold for more money than any american sports team ever this surprises me josh but it also reflects the way that the limited commodity of sports franchises have exploded in value. Yeah i mean part of that. Is that a a team that would have sold for more than the brooklyn. Nets has not gone on the market. The ones that get sold tend not to be the ones that are the blue chip historic back mount rushmore franchises. Whatever cliche you want to use so like the clippers get sold but not the lakers <hes> wait or does that <hes> imply that the knicks or a blue chip franchise. I'm i've tried myself in a corner geared fence. I don't know how to get out of it with the knicks you wouldn't go. Oh there with the knicks sell for more than two point three five billion. I say maybe yes they would sell for five billion four billion. I guess i mean they have r._j. Barrett <hes> i mean i think you're right. I think the tilleke now the precious resource that he is. I think <hes> it only takes one rich dude you to want to buy a team and when a rich dude buys a team he and it's always hey sees the name and sees the only only the best possible outcome and honestly why wouldn't he because it seems like these franchises never go down in value. Hopefully we'll get it later. In the conversation. May we can talk about how and when that could happen. Yeah i mean part of the the story here especially if you think about the nets and we've already talked about a little bit about sort of the the process that made barclays and therefore the the nets in their current generation sort of able to exist part of the under girding of all of this is the public financing of arenas <hes> ben mathis lilley for for for slate wrote a really great piece about how how all of this sort of rests on the public and therefore the public should be able to expect some sort of return on that which of course never happens right but that's part of what makes this these these resources just go up and up and up in value without any kind of fear of a drop on the on the on behalf of the owners i mean the the pathway the pathway for franchise values to go down would be for an entire league to that fail i think and maybe there's a pathway for that happened with the n._f._l. Given brain injuries but <hes> as far as the n._b._a. Goes i mean i guess another pathway as if cities and states and governments on mass decided that there are no longer going to provide these subsidies <hes> <hes> there's been no indication thus far that that that's a foot there have been periods of flattening. There have been franchises that sold for less than what they're buyers paid for them. Usually quick turnarounds not the ones that have been held for obviously a decade or longer so there really isn't much evidence that you know that this is a market. That's in decline these remain. There are only thirty two of them in the n._b._a. and the n._f._l. And thirty in baseball i mean they're just not a lot of them. They are scarce commodities and there are more billionaires than ever that are apparently willing to to buy they will once. We pass say extremely aggressive wealth tax in this country. They're just not going to be any people who can afford right these prices of the next by the way getting while the getting's good for forbes annual valuation lift list of sports franchises. The knicks are at four billion dollars tied with the a yankees as the second most valuable u._s. sports franchises after the dallas cowboys james. Dolan's claimed that he has been offered five billion dollars for the next could be true. Take the money as long time makes money did yeah get it good but i mean i do think that dolan's sort out of refusal to get off the knicks partially it has to do with economics talked about but partially reflects a generational difference right. I mean if feel like it's the mix and the lakers and maybe some other m._b._a. Teams that are kind of family legacies right and and jerry buss of the lakers famously. I mean it was a real i mean it was his it was run as a family business it was he was running it to make money off of it in a way that the newer class of mostly tech owners in the n._b._a. or not right these people aren't running them to make money off of them. It's a purely <hes> vanity play and it's interesting. I think this kind of intersects with what we've already said about the n._f._l. Owners and they're sort of relative closeness. There are a whole generation of people who have run these things essentially actually as members of a country club right. It's like the n._f._l. Ownership is like a smaller augusta right and it's there's a sort of old boys that's going out of it and it's becoming more and more financial is and and and sort of tech people being the the main movers <hes> and this is part of why i think transactions like this this one are part of why the n._b._a.'s starts to seem a little bit more progressive because it's like you know the same ethos that gives you google and other tech companies that have you know great diversity policies or know how to speak that language these new raft of owners in this new after sort of buying their way into the league does affect culture in a way that maybe hasn't happened as quickly in the n._f._l. Is another leaves and this is a good thing for the n._b._a. Program was a terrible owner. He bailed out brooklyn and bailed out the developers of this atlantic yards complex in two thousand nine right after the recession by giving them a lot of money to take over part of that property and then to assume the team <hes> he hasn't done shit. He was an absentee owner for most of the time. He delegated their trades. You know his mission was. We're going to win the n._b._a. And five years big-name splashes willing to spend money they were luxury taxed all the time none of it worked and turning it over to someone that seems to be by his other investments in sports someone who cares about the business and and as you mentioned is sort of brings a sort of more tech philosophy to operating a pro sports team is only a good thing for the n._b._a. Yeah i mean it's a good thing for the n._b._a. In terms of helping open the market <hes> china <hes> does for sure. I mean who's to say what going into business with south china will mean kind of long term for for the league but <hes> there were risks when broker of the nets everyone is concerned about whether it would be a good thing to bring the n._b._a. Anti-russia or or a bad thing and it turned out to be neutral because he doesn't seem to really care very much so i mean one thing that then be a and and i guess now the premier league have going for them in terms of franchise valuations is that there is this international appeal these franchises. You have americans buying in to the premier league. You have massive international interest and the n._b._a. <hes> you know that hasn't so much been the case with the n._f._l. Doesn't seem to be hurting the franchise values for according to this forbes last all of the franchise than n._f._l. Are worth two billion dollars or more stephan. Gonna put you on the spot so two thousand twelve according to this forbes last and you know these are just estimates but they <hes> sat in two thousand twelve. There's only one pro sports sports team in the world manchester united those worth more than two billion in two thousand eighteen. They have fifty on their last. <hes> is this just because of the reality of these sales is resetting the market and so they're increasing the values for that reason is because of massive live television contracts that have increased value or or what else could explain that kind of massive jump in the short period of time i think in in the n._b._a. It's certainly a better labor deal for the league. They're only sharing fifty percent of certain defined revenues with the players versus fifty seven percent in the past and that labor deal has proven to be an absolute boon for management more broadly. I think it's the the continued expansion of rights fees and commercial the opportunities in markets. The premier league has been the best league in the world capitalizing on the market for soccer in places says like china and other parts of the world that had not been targeted by these big leagues before and it is the rise in the number of billionaires globally globally that have the wherewithal to buy these teams which drives up the price of the price. I mean look if there's more simple economics if there there's more interested in buying these teams the prices prices are going to continue to go up absent some sort of global economic depression or more narrow sports depression. I don't think we're gonna see much decline in in the near term flattening certainly but as long as there are billionaires to buy these <hes> we're gonna see interest continued interest in the fact that's happened in a short period of time is reflective of the fact that we've had a great economy. I was wrong. It's not every n._f._l. Team that's worth more than two billion dollars. It's almost every n._f._l. To lose not yet so i i actually found a forbes list from two thousand eighteen that says twenty eight or worth two billion dollars or more <hes> the ones that are not cleveland browns at a middling one point nine five billion cincinnati bengals one point eight detroit lions some anti midwest bias one point seven billion and then in last place the team the donald trump could not afford the buffalo bills one point six billion dollars. Wow we thought about the green bay packers but they are on here two point six to five billion dollars. Despite being publicly owned has not suppressed is one of the famous ones right so one of the more famous i mean the biggest threat to all of this is that there's some major disruption in the way that sports leagues are distributed to the public and that means a decline in in in in rights fees from the broadcasting industry <hes> if fantasy seaports become more popular than real sports or sports become popular if tiff television networks aren't willing to spend the money because they are getting you now outflanked by digital properties and some digital properties don't see the value in the in the league's then there could be some shakeup but again evidence or one point six billion dollars. I mean it's just so rare to be a rich person to be able to make an investment meant that if recent history is a guide is not going to decline in value. It's going to go up in value and also makes you seem cool and gives you like all of the perks of wealth and what's the point of being rich. If you can't own a sports franchise i mean i can understand why there would be intense competition and interest <hes> the by the kings yeah why not not all right. I wanted to let you know that in our bonus segment for slate plus members this week stephan and vincent and i will talk about the departure of deadspin editor megan greenwell and what else is afoot at one of the most important and influential sports websites in existence. If you wanna you hear that segment and you're not a member you can sign up for slate plus. Just thirty five dollars for the first year can do that signing up at slate dot com slash hangup plus all right steph van. We have been using the internet website twitter dot com to do some of our programming in in recent weeks and there is a thread that got us thinking it was started by a guy named troy mac her and the threat was you get to ban one word from the entire lexicon of sports. What word are you banning. He then came up with the top ten list of words to ban. How do you want to start. Do you want to come. You want to list your word. Do you want to go through the top ten. I we should save our words for later to build some suspense. Okay the segment all right. Let's go through this top ten less. I think my word by the way is hands down the word on his list so all right all right the number one word on here. Vinson is his class curious for your response to class slash classy slash classing. Does that deserve the number one spot in words that should be banned from the sports lexicon. I do not think that it should be number. One necessarily are certainly certainly don't think it's like a hands down number one but i do think it belongs on the list. I do think that it's one of those words that's not only cliche <hes> but it also sort of contain. It's one of those liezl words that contains a lot about how we talk about athletes how we connect certain performances of virtue to sort of what happens on the court which most time is totally bogus like when we think about what's wrong with sports. Analysis classy is one is one of those things that way kind of of encapsulates large swaths of the thing that's wrong so <hes> i'm fine with classy doesn't knocked my socks off but it's it's. It's it's okay. It's almost always used in a hypocritical or disingenuous. Way is a i think a good reason for its position here. No no one who says that an opponent is ants classier didn't act with class would ever say the same thing about their favorite team engaged engage in the same accent. <hes> stefan number two is talk about which is used here in a little bit of a a cheat because he spelled talk about without a space well. I would say i i would. I would stipulate that you have to understand that a word. The word word doesn't necessarily mean a single word in lexicography. This is hard earned linguistics. This is known as lexical unit so you can. I'm getting into some definition of the word is definition of a word is not a word multi. Word phrases are words in a linguistic sense all right. We'll talk about talk about then stephen. <hes> this is a late comer. I mean really. I don't know that it's been around long enough for it to catapult number two on any list i mean talk about. Is this shorthand <hes> that's that some journalists us in press conferences particularly to ask questions of athletes rather than asking the actual question. They just say talk about this or talk about that and it's a cliche. The lead of bryan curtis grantland piece was talk about the most insipid thing you hear in locker s <hes> greenpeace pittsburgh ryan that was yeah. I know that it merits you know. I'm more concerned about about words that are used in in ways that reflect some sort of naive today or by ass or hidden intention sorta weasel words are the ones that make me angrier than something like this journalistic shorthand well. It's kind of the opposite in a way vincent of what you were saying about <hes> in class and how it's the signify it it says more than is actually contained in the word whereas talk about contains nothing. It's an entirely content free and it's a stand-in. Dan like the reason to object to this is because it stands for the total lack of information that's conveyed and many any sideline interviews and post game interviews one thing that i had a question about here actually <hes> to use deference there to sort of distinct lexical units that talk about refers to there's the non question that we're talking about but then there's the one that i actually really liked because talk it sort of speaks to regional ways that people speak so that's the interactive talk about the the talk about such and such and i hate that one as we've talked about there is is a good one though which is like the the the sort of declarative talk about a great dunk on you know that kind of the sort of he'll be brownish one and i liked that one because it's sort of it's it crams a lot of meanings when it's like here's here's an example of something that was just displayed on the court. That's a totally different talk about yeah so i don't know i think that yeah talk about bad talk about and like that. Clarification drops this thing off the list entirely i i. I don't think it belonged honestly. Some of the other words that that troy who by the way is an editor at the n._b._c. sports in washington here the put on his top ten list narrative goat momentum swagger and baby saying narrative. I'm not putting that anywhere on my list culture intangibles those are all fine and they're mildly annoying in characters bed characters bad yeah character and culture are sort of lumped into the class thing. They're all talking about the same thing now. I can't stop saying the civic and they sort of hide. What you really mean talk about a linguistic crutch <hes> yes exactly klay. Intangibles is kind of like an old school bad sports word in that. I kind of love how it's just the thing that's i associated with childhood and just the pre game thing on the screen of like or like you'll get. You'll get a check mark mark if you have the intangibles never defined for whatever reason that doesn't bother me. I just find kind of charming thing thing. That makes no sense. I i like goat. I don't mind it's creeping growth in the sports lexicon also because i defined goat for merriam webster as part of my work on my upcoming book so so i got into into mariam yeah simone biles with the bedazzled goat on the back of her that how can you not like that all right <hes> <hes> vincent. Do you want to go off the board. Yeah my i. I don't know if it's certainly not a number one but the one that has annoyed me for a really sort of three years straight. Maybe five i don't know is i want to get rid of analytics. Their justice sticks and the word analytics has is another one of these weasel words that has come to mean whatever people it can refer to a style of play especially in basketball not just in basketball now. Analytics has become like the stand him for like you know. Only strikeouts at home runs and baseball. It's become the stand in for only three pointers in investing ball right it just even in in soccer occur this year. There's been this all more and more and more forward <hes> former player that isn't sort of doesn't necessarily correspond with the beautiful game at stanford it stood in for all of these things things that like <hes> sort of crusty layer observers dislike about the game. It's in some ways become standing for whiteness whenever conversations sations about diversity coaching come up. There's this jalen rose in the new yorker <hes> when he's talking to my colleague isaac johner talked about how analytics has become this weird hurdle for black coaches. It's become a stand in for just people let not liking nerds it. Just is something that could go. Oh away when we talk when we are referring to numbers we they are. They're just statistics and there's a lot of other things that we could use instead of. I don't know but then how do we differentiate between what anyone who's been who's older than twenty-five sort of conceives of as mathematical understanding of sports because it is different from the way that we considered the role of numbers in sports they were digest the bowl and they were simple and they helped sort of define athletes and analytics something much broader. It's sort of a systematic evaluation of of sports. So what what could we use to stand in for it in yeah or maybe i guess maybe an maybe this means that is not a good choice but maybe we could just confine it to the meaning that you just said because if it's just about a different way of using numbers then fine but i don't like it's creep into so many other areas of sports analysis <hes> that sort of span from numbers two styles of play to <hes> <hes> structural and political arrangements <hes>. I don't like that creep. I can sign onto that stephan all right. I'll go next. I'm gonna cheat and go with to the i. I don't really have a nice explanation for like you'd advance. Any just annoys me. <hes> mindset don't like mindset. That's all i'm gonna say all right. The one that i have a longer thought about and this actually found in the replies to the twitter thread ads wasn't my original thought but i endorse it fully this comes from a <hes> twitter user with the handle pittsburgh sport and the word is bomb. Balm is a very long-standing sportswear because back to dem bombs and the brooklyn dodgers chirs. It's kind of a term of endearment but the way that it's used now i would say is exemplified by the conversation that <hes> stephen a smith who venue profiled had with carmelo anthony and talking about why carmelo is not in the league and they were going back and forth about it and then kind of like an after the show sort of interview stevens said there are a lot of bombs and the n._b._a. There's so many bumps in the n._b._a. In fact that it's an injustice that carmelo has not in the league given the size of rosters and given his skill and you know maybe it's true that carmelo oh anthony deserves a roster spot but the way that that term is thrown out by not only like people on twitter but by officially it sanctions media members people who know the game have followed the game know and respect the game that they just like throw it out insults guys who are some of the best athletes in the world and who are very good at basketball and are not in fact bombs <hes> it's dehumanizing and i think there's just like a general strain then of commentary where people will just insults players really freely really and talked about somebody as being quote unquote bad when they are not in fact bad. Maybe they're below average for the n._b._a. But <hes> it's thrown around too loosely. Yeah i don't like bum. I think that stephen as like it's funny that you mentioned him because he's the the chief offender here like he loves to. I mean he used was to just do this thing by just saying a guy's name funny like <hes> he's the t._i. Go split like he would just like a break. Somebody's name up into these these syllables <hes> but yeah i mean i. I realize there's some performance element here. I realized that you know we're not totally seriously that it's it's he would say maybe that it's just in the context of the n._b._a. This guy right not is good but i'll stipulate all that continue. No i think you're i think i like it because it's it's true and i think it re- represents an another another level of fandom to always be mindful that anybody who's literally even keeping up with the back and forth on the right side of the court. Most of the time is an incredible incredible athlete and i think it's fair to keep that in mind as not only fair but maybe a duty to keep that in mind as a fan. I'm going to point out that the first citation in the oxford english dictionary for this sense of bomb worthless or contemptible person a lazy irresponsible person is from the chicago tribune in eighteen eighty two and it's a it's a baseball well chicago tribune instead of being as he should be far above the level of the ball player. The umpire of today today is far below that level and properly belongs in the bomb category. I think i'm glad that you read the definition because i thank the way that it's used and i think the intended use. I don't know if the <hes> if it's meant to be as negative as i think it really is like worthless and contemptible. That's a strong strong and vicious pretty bad all right stephane hess. What do you got not the ones that the the predominate in the list and in the comments on this twitter threat of the sort of bomb variety of the talk about variety sort the things that annoy us and i went with the more sort of thing that is really contemptible that word and worthless and that is the term term student athlete. I think this should be banned and this was for much more practical. Reason good answer. Good answer was was invented by the n._c._a._a. Back in the nineteen fifties it was a way they came up with the term so that they could avoid paying disability payments to players who were injured so you categorize them as students and athletes as opposed to just athletes they found a legal way to get around the terminate obviously caught on as a way to describe athletes and it is the most disingenuous and deleterious word in the sports lexicon. I think great answer done serious harm and damage in a way that perhaps even bam has not and just to give credit where it's due jason murray another another user rhymes with orange student athlete was selected. I did not see it in the in any of the <hes> in some of their applies okay so you're gonna have to trust that. I came up with it on my hand. We trust you. I believe all right. Let's move on to after balls and i wanted to select elect a word slash lexical unit here <hes> randy johnson the lexical unit <hes> that was was i found in their applies and i felt was there <hes> era neha sleigh and that i wanted to elevate it because it is in fact a a phrase that should it'd be championed and not decried and that is calling a running back a bell cow. How could you kevin myers not to not to call you personally. How could you be upset at <hes> people calling running back a bell cow <hes> it the the phrase is referring to the lead cow of a herd having a bell attached to a collar around its neck so that the herd could be located easily. It's very a phrase often used in reference is to fantasy football. Perhaps you could argue that. It's dehumanizing but i prefer to think of it as figurative any any votes but yeah you're on l. camp. I don't have a problem with belco. I haven't even heard it that much but now i i mean the you've sold me the mariam's unabridged dictionary. Mary defines belco as a cow with a bell attached to its neck especially lead cow but then the slang the figurative use is a leader milk cow i was the first person was the first reference to jim brown. It should be but i think it probably predates. Jim brown all right. Let's do our belcastro stephan. What's rebel count the washington post last week. Published the first installment of the series on climate change call all two degrees celsius beyond the limit and increase of two degrees celsius in the average worldwide temperatures since eighteen ninety-five is considered a threshold for catastrophic climate changes changes like retreating ice sheets rising sea levels dine coral reefs the post first piece detailed how hundreds of counties in the united states already have exceeded the two degree mark which means that across america football is being played in stifling heat and humidity has that for a transition. I've read stories this week about high schools proudly describing the ice he's tubs they keep on hand to treat possible heat stroke and other stories about schools heroically monitoring the heat index which measures temperature and humidity and the wet the ball with globe temperature which adds in wind speed and solar radiation in texas it can take a fahrenheit temperature of one hundred degrees to force coaches to move football practiced practiced early morning or evening or indoors tennessee state policy bans practice when the heat index goes above one hundred four degrees oklahoma's heap policy restricts the amount of preseason football practice to five hours every twenty four hours which still seems like a lot of football practice in the heat last friday. The coach of putnam city high school in oklahoma city tweeted in response to the heat advisory. We will practice from one thirty to three tomorrow. Just one practice no doubleday. No meetings one thirty to three o'clock also does not seem like the optimal time to practice during a heat advisory but football must go on in huntsville alabama emma w. a. y. Channel thirty one visited practice at james clemens high school last week. The football players still took the field in full pads even with the heat index at about one hundred and seven degrees but coaches and trainers were all around to make sure they were keeping their players safe. The station reported. This is a full padded practice on the hottest day of the year so it's a needed day but it's definitely one. We gotta make sure we're taking care of our players. Head coach wade waldrop oil drips said while coach waldrop and his staff made sure players got extra water breaks and generously allowed them to take off their helmets between drills one thing they apparently didn't do was check the alabama high school athletic association safety guidelines when the heat index exceeds one hundred three players are supposed post where only helmets not full pads and practice for a maximum of one hour in north florida spruce creek high and flagler palm coast high scrimmaged earlier this month when the heat index was one hundred and five one player staggered off the field and with an internal body temperature of almost one hundred and three was dumped in one of those ice tubs which probably saved his life. That boy was lucky. After a football player died of heatstroke in two thousand seventeen the florida athletic association strongly only recommended but did not mandate that schools have cooling tubs with water and ice on hand a fourteen year old boy did die during conditioning drills in in high heat in florida in june every high school football coach should be terrified that one of his players is going to drop dead from heat stroke so i was relieved to read a story being the gainesville times in georgia that quoted a couple of coaches east hall coach michael perry and west hall coach crofton montgomery who said it's too fucking hot to play football in the summer. They didn't say to fucking hot in the story but they did say that. Practice shouldn't start until august. I and games shouldn't start until after labor day what i'm about to suggest would be heretical to football coaches but i'd say start practicing september games in october of course by the middle of the century football states like florida and texas exists projected have up to five months of days with a heat index above one hundred if children's football insists on remaining a summer and fall sport. It insists on remaining at all. Maybe it won't be sub. Concussive blows that kills it. Maybe it'll be the weather josh. What's your bell cow. The world's best men's tennis player at least at this moment is danneal medvedev going into last week. The twenty-three-year-old russian had made two consecutive tournament finals here in washington d._c. And then in montreal then this past week in cincinnati he we used huge first and second serves and really solid for hands back ends to beat world number-one electric in the semi finals and divvied viewed goffin in the final to win the biggest title of his career and move up to a career-high number five in the world behind only jovic rafael nidal roger federer and dominic team stephens hero. The eighth ranked stefanos citybus. Thank you is owen foreign his career against gets medvedev seats apostol ben rothenberg last week than medvedev plays sloppy adding. It's good sloppy. He can make you miss without your understanding how you just missed you. Miss shots that you don't mess. That's deep kind of. I watched medvedev in d._c. So i have a good sense of how well the dude is playing but i it didn't know before i saw a pretty oblique tweet on sunday. Is that three years ago medvedev was defaulted from a match on the second tier challenger tour. You're in a match which was played on clay and savannah georgia medvedev. Who was then ranked number. Two hundred sixty in the world was playing donald young young as a black american can player in the first at the chair umpire. A black woman in sandy franch went down to the court to check the ball mark on shot medvedev hit. There was close to the sideline. She called the ball out giving young the point which led medvedev mark. I know that you are friends. I am sure about it. After the game was over french called over tournament supervisor advisor medvedev was quickly defaulted for what the united states tennis association later referred to as questioning the impartiality of the umpire based on her race. There is unfortunately precedent for that incident in two thousand one. Australian lleyton hewitt claimed that a black line judge at the u._s. Open was calling foot-faults on him to to favor hewitt's black opponent american james blake. I've only been foot-faulted of one end. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Mate hugh had said look at him. I and you will tell me what the similarity is. Get him off. The court. Look at what he's done. Hewitt was not penalized during a match or afterwards the u._s. Us open tournament director brian earley who you may remember as the guy who came on the court during last year's yes open final when serena williams demanded to speak to the terminent director during her her conflict with sharon player carlos ramos early ruled that there was no violation of quote grand slam code of conduct and that quote the evidence events was inconclusive as to the intent of mr hewitt's remarks to the chair umpire q._a. for his part said i come from a multicultural country. I'm not racial any way at all. Though hewitt didn't get sanctioned. John mcenroe called his on-court statement unforgivable. It has indeed followed hewitt for his whole career areo still hear people mention it when hewitt's name comes up medvedev's words have gotten less attention because they came in a minor league event probably also because he wasn't yet well known when it happened as far as i know medvedev has never commented on this <hes> the incident did get brought up in two thousand seventeen when at wimbledon medvedev eh opened his wallet and started throwing coins at the base of the umpire's chair to make a not so subtle point about the empires bias alleged bias towards his opponent it in that case. He apologized for quote doing a bad thing in conclusion u._s._a. Open starts next week to meal medvedev. Have guys going to start getting more attention. We'll see what happens. I guess that is our show for today. Our our producer. This week is ethan brooks filling in for melissa kaplan special. Thanks daniel hewitt for production. Help this week and benson cunningham. Thank you for being being our guest as well. That's having to listen to pashas and subscriber just reach out go to slate dot com hang up you can email us at hang up at play dot com <hes> you're still here guessing you might want even more of the hang up and listen sports podcast experience and our bonus this week we are going to talk about deadspin the fate of but that doesn't do something additive here because depth been pushing back against the ownership and the things they have attempted to buy reporting on them and now why the editor of the slight what seems apparent that they can't separate separate their personal feelings toward the staff and the site and what the site stands for here that conversation join slate plus. It's just thirty five dollars for the first year could sign up at slate dot com slash plus four steph fats and vincent cunningham. I'm josh levin members almost eighty and thanks awesome.

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