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BBC launches new radio and podcast app

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BBC launches new radio and podcast app

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Part 1: Lavar Ball on Hard Work, Endorsement Deals and Fatherhood (ACS Oct 20)

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1:04:06 hr | 9 months ago

Part 1: Lavar Ball on Hard Work, Endorsement Deals and Fatherhood (ACS Oct 20)

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This is the Adam Corolla show. Adams today Lavar ball and Marianne, Williamson. With Gina Grad on news and Brian on sound effects and now. This program includes negative depictions and or mistreatment of people or cultures. The stereotypes were wrong then and are wrong now. Adam. Corolla EAC it at all got to get it on a choice beginner managed to get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Good Day Gina Grand a daily You handle Ryan yes. Yes. Lot of range in the show today Lavar, ball and Marianne Williamson all the range owner other. Run in the same circles Lavar. Obviously, the patriarch are yes. The Patriarch. The ball I mean three his youngest son is going to go. I, in the draft NBA draft coming up next and he is in Australia and he's a baller and he never went to college, and then of course, his other two sons. One. Jost Miss the Lakers championship because I got traded last year from the Lakers to the. Pelicans. But Anyway, an interesting story and Lavar Ball evidently grew up in the San. Fernando Valley. Obviously a stand out athlete in went to Canoga Park high home of. Of. The hunters they're probably interest they probably been downgraded to gatherers now. Hunter's a little aggressive but their mascot was a guy wearing a coon skin cap with a gun. Now, it's the guy with a bonnet and a basket that that's right. That's right. It's like a maypole and a and a girl in the basket. So planning each other some some form of football. We just missed each other I'm a little bit older than Lavar is but when I was in high school, the championship years that the people the teams that went to the Coliseum to play the championship game I think two years that I played varsity both. Canoga Park went to the championship and. I think they want but I don't know and when if you look down and we won't get into at the second, but if you ever look at my All city. Sorry. All Valley Roster and You would be forced to look at it if you talk to me for more than eight seconds. A lot of it was littered with Canoga Park guys because when you're in charge house yeah. I the only player on my entire team to make the all valley ofensive unit. But in what Canoga Park had one two. Three. Four guy had four guys on the offensive side of the ball and probably four or five guys on the defensive side of the ball as well. So it was heavily populated with Canoga Park players North Hollywood not so much be fair. There's not a lot to do in Canoga Park. That's true. So we'll hunt evidently right Called the hunters there must have been downgrade anyway. So we'll talk to because it is interesting and Brian kind of knows the VIBE and Gina knows it too but. Brian think with a little head towards sports when you know more TMZ angle when you Lavar enough when you get to high school if a year before you got there or two years before you got there like the team was a championship team like the football team was a powerhouse you Kinda of know it. You know some of the names you see some pictures and some trophies and becomes a little lower. You know what I mean, right? So maybe he remembers those guys or maybe his team was a championship team I mean I didn't pay any attention after I graduated but obviously, Canoga Park was still rolling along and Lavar probably was on those teams will. Hold onto. Your saying no. By all means I was to that point out of I still remember some of the names of the guys who were four or five guys I. Never Really met through the name because they were stunned athletes who won titles right geology well, no, and to that point I absolutely understand I was there too I remember in eighth grade I knew that Laura Swanson was playing Guevara in. camelot. It was a little out of reach for a freshman but I knew if I worked really hard I wish that banner to again in an e as a senior because I was and I knew I had something to work for because I knew who was in camelot and Carousel the year before see Irish. Just picturing Dr Universal experience yelling halfway into that no, no, no no no no no. Oklahoma don't. Right I. You something you said sparked a memory. Do what did you a chance to play at the Coliseum or some very cool venue like the rose bowl or something When I was in the tenth grade. And I played like be team baseball my first year. Because I only went to high school for three years. They. The senior team that year played. Mar High at dodger stadium for the chamber. Nice and they lost to Dodger Stadium and the championship but. A young plucky, nubile young athlete who played for crenshaw and who pitched for crenshaw high against us. Meaning, north, Hollywood high, and we actually beat them. So they played the early consolation game at dodger. Stadium was one Darrell Strawberry. Darryl strawberry hit a dinger. Still going and. Imagine. In terms of being a pro prospect, you have played exactly one game in a a pro field at dodger, stadium played one game at dodger. Stadium in Highschool. You hit a home run does pretty bad, ass it's pretty bad ass for a seventeen year old like, yeah that you got some fucking pop in your bat if you're hitting one out of dodger stadium in highschool. So that was Darrell Strawberry and that's about all I. Got I attended the game, and of course we lost and that's about all I got. A marginal high school athlete marginal at best on my best days. However, my my junior varsity team playing on got a chance to play a couple of games at keys are stadium in San Francisco. Said Ignatius or one of those cities schools and it was fucking bad ass. Come out of the tunnel you know the niners. Sixty or whatever it was like it was very cool. It was the highlight of my career playing the game. From the bench in Keyser Stadium I was selected. To be one of the representatives to go to Dallas Cowboy Training The Dallas Cowboys Training Facility in wasn't Elsa gun though I can't remember the Dallas cowboys to come out here in La area in train every year back foreigners something or my bad God all I can think of it but I can't think of it but I'll know it when I hear it but they they used to come out here and they had some sort of program were the best high school players each team in the valley or whatever could go there and essentially like have lunch with the Dallas cowboys and like watch them scrimmage I. Don't know Danny White was the coach and I think Tom. I, think of his last name, the coach. Tom Landry Landry was the coach all those guys all the you know. All those guys from back then those championship l'ex-rda. Boy early eighties late seventies early randy white, all those not randy Wang Randy White. They're different. They're all all those guys all those guys drew hill or Calvin Hill or I'm trying to think of a depre- in all those dudes we're all we're all there and was, of course a thrill. To go there, and then like have lunch with them and you went. Yeah I went because I was chosen. As. I was GONNA say this didn't require like a ride or money from your parents how you have gone by too Tall Jones right. Yeah, my my. Didn't my parents didn't know as far as I know I just I was selected in. The van was leaving the parking lot at eight o'clock on on Saturday morning whatever that. Up Again. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So. We'll get back to that in a second I. Had I had an interesting thought. So I stepped out. This. Morning it's been. It's been warm, but it's starting to cool off at night at a certain point. No matter how hot it is during the day it can't really hold back the night. The Knights still gets cooler just because as we start to get to the end October, it's like, what are you? GonNa do Earth. So I stepped out of my. Backyard, this this morning about eight, Fifteen, eight, thirty, and notice for the first time a steam was coming out of my mouth. So I thought I should get in that swimming pool. So I took my plunge in the swimming pool, which was a colder than normal but not not it's normal. Degrees when it gets really cold. And then I dried off and I made a note of it. I was like well steams coming out of my mouth for the I I've not seen my breath in the morning around here for six months now I'm seeing it now it's going to start getting cool and now start thinking about getting into that pool and Walked in my office open, my computer and someone had tweeted me a story about cold plunges. I thought I'd share with you but then it triggered a bunch of other thoughts that we're going to sort of pile in on in a second. But you can go ahead and read the headline. It's really the headline. The first paragraph cold water swimming could delay dementia research suggests cold water swimming could help delay neuro degenerative diseases such as dementia research suggested academics at Cambridge University found that many of the cold water swimmers they monitored at Parliament Hill Lido in London between twenty sixteen in two thousand, eighteen head increased levels of a quote cold a shock protein. RBM Three, which twenty fifteen study on mice showed offered a showed offered protection against the onset of dementia. Yeah now, my first impulse is like well, wait a minute. These people that take cold water plunges verses guys who binge. Watch love boat and slam fennel like because that's the arrangement it's going to be different group and no they were comparing it to people I think that did TAI. Chi. So you're doing something mindful like your health oriented your body oriented, you're doing something mindful but it's seventy five degrees in. There's there's no fluctuation you're not getting the freezing cold and then. So I was I was kind of. Thanks started thinking about it, and then as per usual I was trying to sort of weave it into a pattern. And I realized. The. Most. We get out of life is the diversity. So Dr drew always said million years ago like how much stronger a Mutt is in a purebred you know the Diversity, that just thinking about the royals from how many hundreds of years ago they're all fucking inbred and they got him feel right. So Diversity Kansas City. Short sprint. Diverse Look at Yale. Diversity is what I was thinking about and then I thought okay we've we've been talking about in learning about. Diversity as it. As, it pertains to your gut, your bowel and what you're exposing yourself to, and of course, all these stories coming out that amish kids aren't allergic to anything because they're exposed to animals and dirt and they roll around and the kids that live in the penthouse in Manhattan have the super high levels of these allergies and Peanut allergies and glue and also. Oh Hey fever and stuff like that. So of course, I've been broken record with instead of bathing your kid with pure al expose them to stuff show him some dirt. Let let the system work. Let your system push late your system exercise. Let it push it. It needs so I'll let you in in a second run. Our entire life is really built around. Resistance Training. You, send the the astronauts go the moon they lose all their muscle that there's there's no weights they have to come up with ways I, mean it's a serious issue if you're going to be in the space station for six months after invent something so you won't wither on the vine right right and then we all understand that there's sort of a mental version of it like I need a worthy adversary to play chess with me not some junior high kid I need someone who's good so I can challenge myself. In your system needs that and then I started thinking what's the difference you know we understand the mental part winter stand the physical. We understand the resistance training for muscles. Everyone will the more weight, the more resistance, the more more positively rack, and then we're starting to learn about the gut. And and all the microbes and micro bacteria. But I thought what about just in general your system and here's what I've been saying it but not tapping into it. I keep saying, Oh, we're just sitting in a cubicle and the seventy two degrees, seventy two degrees and never gets out air conditioned car and gets into the air conditioned cubicle and goes back there air-conditioned Condo, and then they go into the store and it's all just one temperature. So your body isn't really asked to do much to regulate that because we don't need it but think about what your body does when you drop it into freezing cold body of water. Right every every part I mean. If you do it volition fine but anyone has ever been to a pool party and not a pool part of it just like a high school party and they had some doofus friend like my buddy just push you into the pool in winter. It's like your body just goes into full heart attack while it's like it turns red everything is working like it's mmediately every part of your body's is awoken and all working harder to breathe right and. So think about then. Going out and it's one hundred and seven degrees in your hiking think about what your body is doing to stave off this hundred and seven degrees. As you hike up this hill, it's every bit of it is pushing out sweat and you know. Every bit as alert every bit as activated as what is what I'm saying and I have long said to you guys how come all the guys I work with Serta work outside seem even they're not moody they're not. They don't have a lot of sick days existential crises not a lot of that not a lot of the member I always said, they're not allergic to anything all the guys that just work that just work you know and. When you work outside, your body is constantly regulating the environment. It's The other day. The guys they speak of were on the roof of this building was one hundred fucking fourteen degrees out there. They not only did their bodies have to work with their mind had to work at a pop up little tents and shade and show up at six knockoff it to and and all kinds of stuff. So. What about taking your body? and. Again, the resistance part we understand with the weights but throwing yourself a pool are taking a hike on one, hundred, hundred and ten. Degree day think what your body's doing. It's global ban like every party your body is working on that and maybe all the regulated environment maybe the temperature literally the temperature literally think about what your body has to do. If you work in a professional world, your cars parked in a garage, it's got the temperature control you set it for seventy degrees. It's got the seat warmer the seat breather. When you drive along, you pull into the underground parking you get in the elevator you go up to the office back down climate in the Mercedes go home the Condo. What has your body's saying that very comfortable thing what what kind of workout has your system got what is it had to fight against push against your system is probably quite literally asleep the entire time. Brian cut you off five minutes ago. It's okay. I have so many thoughts number one I probably haven't mentioned this in three and a half years when it actually happened but we took Tessa. To refers doctors appointments right she was an infant a few months old and of course, one of our questions first parents like what what do we do? Peanuts, we obviously don't want her to have a peanut allergy, but the LA doctors like give her peanut butter right away as soon as she's ready to eat solid foods make peanut butter one of the things you feed her. Wonderful Foods now, she it's all the time she's obsession can't bring it to school because obviously some kids do of the peanut allergy but elise, the doctors have sort of caught on the doctor was playing in the dirt letter peanut butter, give it to her sooner. She can have solid foods. So we started doing that it whatever eight months old river was. Number Two yes, I did the cold plunge at your house Adam and was the first time I've done it. And I was so I obviously, my muscle is not being a very strong muscle kind of seized up a little bit but I was alert like it's hard to describe how alert I was like hyper aware of the feeling that the sensation but also just very awake not that I was sleepy, but it's hard to describe but it was. A hyper sensitive to the world like, wow. I've got to get out of here. Well, maybe the Turkish and the Russians and the Koreans all know something and have known as much longer than we have because they're famous for their spas like the Turkish baths houses and the road, and it's all about going back and forth between hot temperature and cold temperature and you think nothing of it and I. Think. You're absolutely right. The alertness it s even if I'm at work or whatever. If you're working on something and it's a little warm and you had a great night's sleep and you whatever you can't help. But just like start nodding off for no reason because your body is just so comfortable and when it's uncomfortable, you're absolutely right about that alertness. Yes. So I think the moral of the story is. When you think about resistance and everyone gets the resistance part of the workout. You know it's you know when you take the treadmill and you put it up on an incline, it's a much different workout than when it's flat. Start Thinking about that with your gut. And Your Diet and what you ingest, what you expose yourself to but think about it in terms of your regulation like if you think about. A sort of globally what your body does. The one thing your body never stops doing is regulating its temperature a constant. You know we've all woken up the middle of the night I go covered with sweat the heater was on and the thing like your body wants to be in stasis. To be a level level right and so I think the problem is as we go, we want it to be in stasis. We want it. That's where once debate and we go. Okay. So the mistake we've made as we go here it is we'll give it to you. We'll give it to you every place. I've air conditioning or heat are all be every every house is going to have the nest and you to set the nest Thermostat for seventy two and that's just it. But, what kind of workout then are you getting and so we're now at the where you gotta throw yourself in the pool or the cold shower or you know take Asana and then jump into the cold shower but either way. I would bet. If you took. People and. It was so funny because I was talking to Tommy Lee the other day on this show and his. What's his wife Britney? Brittany I talked to that Gal. About six months ago and I was like she's like she's having. Anxiety issues and this issues, and that issues we tried medication, which is like, do you have a pool in your house? Yes. Every morning, throw yourself in that pool every morning and get back to me in a week to one week of that one week and tell me what it does for you and she never did it but the point is. If you took somebody. And whatever state they were in, and for one week said every day you take a fifteen minutes on and then after that, you jump into freezing cold swimming pool. I just gotTa believe that that person's mood an affect at the end of that week would be much different and better than what it was at the start and it's kind of free doesn't take and it's also. The plunge. Pool, but you can do a cold shower. The plunge is all of three minutes. It doesn't. It's not I. You know when people get into like the ninety minute yoga class or the meditation or the tie or something I get it it can be a little laborious a little. Discouraging Yeah you don't WanNa go back after. As. Right. All right something to think about now on a nother. No. I was. Watching the love boat last night. You, don't say. The greatest when I come home, I now take pictures of Shit that's going on on on the love boat. I just forward it to Dr drew because he's so obsessed with no Cap John. Terry Terry. Well, you don't really need it because I first doctor bricker I'm amazed Dr Bricker because Dr Bricker is the chips doctor and he's in uniform and I don't know where Canada or Chris. Dawson but. The the first one is just. Sorry. Put an order. He does beer. I'll push showed a picture. He does beer during the day or the day, Dr Bricker. The ship's doctor hangs at the bar with Isaac with a cold one is he gonNA stay loose? He's not in this office like if you got Sunburn Arash or stung by jellyfish, you wouldn't find the his office. You gotTA head up the Lido Deck. He's pounding some cold ones with with Isaac the bartender. So he's just holding the glass and they're drinking some beer and then by night. vinnie would be proud he switches to scotch sure. He's aware and his Bowtie it puts his four former on and he goes moves to double high ball with Scotch and I just send these pictures to drew all fucking night because he just marvel's his head it can't the notion that a physician could just hang out and drink openly. I did have a nip off the ask like in A. In a in a lifeboat. Eleven, he's just he's just a peacock of he's. He's a peacock of alcoholism is picture in my. Mind Double Isaac and I, yes, officer thinks it's also funny like the captain combined be like all right Adam don't. Tell too many. There's a lot of fine ladies over here and it's like. He doesn't care if the captain's they're. Always been on a number of cruises. What do we find hundred believe the drinking Dr openly and ample or the fact that there is a bartender Hundred Bartenders on the cruise as we go on, there's also a great. The other one too is there's a little ten second clip where he's sitting poolside trying to counsel Vicki, and the joke is he saying a young Vicky that I know you're young and you have a crush on whoever the talent is Rex Smith Gina Grad. On Oh, you don't know wreck Smith now how I was like pirates of penzance and stuff G. Leila Rice? I thought this is GonNa be right up your valley I'm so sorry to disappoint. Breath, Saberhagen? is in the Broadway. Musical Grease. But God he's not a household name I gotta get I gotta get familiar. Oh Gina He's a household name for you. If you're one of them, fruit flies who loves all the all the musicals and whatnot. Wreck, Smith blitz like pirates and Greece. And he was the very model of modern major general. He is information vegetable animal and mineral. He knows the size of England, the sites historical at marathon and ladder waterline orders categorical. He's very well acquainted with matters mathematical understand questionable. Radical about binomial theorem teaming with a lot of news many Chivo facts about the square the hot news. He's very good at integral and differential calculus shorten something something being alcoholism and short matters. Actual animal mineral. He is very model of modern general pirates. Betcha Lavar ball couldn't do half of that. We'll ham on and ten. Might. Get through the first couple of stands as. Wait a minute REX Smith I obviously. He's done. He was pirates wasn't pirates to use a big broadway anyway, right. Gene. I just there's only three guys I know from Broadway, REX's one. Immediately. David. Alan grier. That's right. That's right. So she's got a crush on Rex Smith of course, is not interested in her but. Seven. That the whole other episode and she's doing that thing they used to do and many of these sitcoms things from the seventies as was like, well, maybe provide a bigger bust. My boss line it's creepy. It's like that's like twelve year old girl going I, don't have if I had more of a bust a blah blah blah. Top Ten hit. Oh, you take my breath away. Anyway. Here's the here's the dock. So what so here's the comedy. The DOC is counseling young Vicki, and he sang don't worry Vicky men men are just interested in a bus line I like what's in their head and then of course, super hot chick walks up with the boss and you can take it from there. Are. We going down to your cabin. Ho Ho. It's crazy. WHAT DOES ON TV? Council the Young Girl Super Hot. Bus The blonde. By the way who are these women like just smoke Vuk and smoke show twenty, five year olds like going hitting on forty eight year old doctor art and he's like. Well, let's go for a stroll on the deck and she's like I thought we were going to your cabin, fuck To waste my time. Here drinking he's carousing. What the? and. He says. Withdrew, he says is. And we all just watching what? Yeah there you go. That's our. That's where our society was. You run along with it if you want to. Well, that's. Sort of it's sort of like two drinking fountains in Alabama nine, hundred, fifty one. accepted. The premise this walk passive. What's going on? This is insane. How's this now? It's like, yeah, go the does he hits on chicks on the boat while he's drinking. It doesn't the Scott to defend Dr he rarely drinks the Scotch during the day. He stays on the beer. You know while the sun is shining and then later on, he makes the move to the debaucherous Dr drew does on cruises plays Django with us. 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Let's see Max Payne on what else is lauren hold okay. So we'll take a quick break we'll come back with. Lavar ball and if I call them, Lavar Burton somebody threw a chair at me Lavar ball right after this. Spirit of Murrow Jenny. Cronkite here's another great moment any local news the fire was called Bob Cat and it burned a Kuker. A great moment in local news. Now back to the Adam Corolla show. Well, we have Lavar ball on Lavar has himself show called ball in the family new episode Sunday six PM Eastern on facebook watch and Lavar with a sign now good to see you. Guys. Congratulations on all your and your son success. Thank you. We're just getting started. Yeah now I, know a your youngest, the Lamelo is. predicted. To Go I in the in the NBA draft, he feels feel confident of that. What? When is NBA draft my schedules all thrown off now. Liberating. Are, they are they gonNA try to get back onto a schedule, the NBA or how much do you know about that? I'm not sure when when they get started out her things, they wanNA started into December? Hers people say well, you know we might be started in January. So let's start with your background. We're talking about you being Canoga Park Hunter I think back. Recommend. Day S and be, and so for those who don't really know Canoga Park, just Kinda the middle of the valley, it's about his valley as the valley gets right. And back then it's heavily Hispanic now but it wasn't that Hispanic back then right? No No, it was. It was kind of gross on the sector. been bussed out to the valley for like the. Late Seventies. So what was already being bussed out there and they were taking kids from the inner city and bussing them out to the valley. So. Wearing the inner city. Did you live grown up? I'll. Central. and. So there was a program that got you out of the city and into the valley. What was that? Walk us through a typical school day for you like when you're in high school because I know when you play football. I played in North Hollywood high and I could see the school buses lined up at the end of quote ball field and at the end of practice at five o'clock or whatever I would walk home but the guys are being bussed in skill position players mainly Walking toward the bus and I always thought. God. Damn. They've got a long bus ride now. So Our our. So, what was the day like for you like saying playing football in high school? What time would you get up? Where'd you meet the bus in south central? So anyways, I'll get up at five thirty 'cause I'm GonNa give me a good breakfast. Out, they didn't take off to about maybe six, forty, six, forty, five, and it'd be about an hour. They were. On a corner of a closer to our house and it would have like four or five different stops and it'd be. Close to seven thirty. And like football practice would end it five or so right? Yes. Right. And it would have like. It would have regular buses pick everybody up better three. People play sports they would have. To Act to other buses. To bosses the same with my high. School. That were would take the athletes. So for you I mean you're leaving the House that I don't know six thirty and coming home at six thirty night every night. Rider that's a long day. Well, it's only a long day. It's not fun. It was not as low as day but like I say. Of Practice and then. We get something to eat maybe. PUP and TACO or Taco Bell or whatever, and we'll time you shoot the breeze in eat shit you almost home and then what time you get home you go have dinner is time to do some homework about business be ready for the next day the same way people forgot everyone knows. TACO. Bell now forgot about the old pup and Taco. Goes must. See You. Understand only go. Oh Yeah at some point there were probably more pup and Tacos, and there were Taco bells but. At some point somebody mismanaged something and here we are today. So So, you're playing football and basketball in high school rant. And Go ahead and Brag about that for a little bit. To seat like I'll tell them. Hey Amy sometimes we. Got About two tickets to see the wall most the game. and. Did. You think about going toward playing football in college versus basketball. I'll tell you what? In High School especially back in my day we started in a tenth grade, but I just play whatever sport was in season. So it was never like. Football Basketball Bar. Football and His life that's the one I'm GONNA. Do did you always have a in your head that your kids could be professional players with that? Was that was that in your head before having kids? Yes. Most definitely. Like I tell people anything I'm plan as one of the reasons I'm taking my wife I mean it was a lot of little short cuties when you find a tall one has at least meeting with the last name ball what else do? What do you think your earliest recollection of having kids and have them be athletes weird thought when you're twenty three? Recollection. Yeah. True agree. Really. Yes. That's a good sports, all sports from baseball or football diving Schratt basketball I love sports. Play sports in the fact that I consider myself. Kabbalah I told myself, I have nothing but boys. So Irish, smoking into existence laying there had no girl so I must be good. or Chinese. Own Chinese. Now not yet. They're not the daughter not. Wear. So. Now. Sorry can you hear me? Okay can a little below a little feedback? So where's the bounce? I have a son? He's fourteen. He's not a big baller. He's kind of a no baller and didn't really never really turned into much I loved athletics I played a lot of sports I always thought how important it was, but I never felt like I could push him i. just felt like he ended up resenting me if I pushed him, is there some? Do you ever feel like you've crossed the line with your kids or can you push him as hard as you want and they just want more? Here's. Things you don't you don't pushes. If you put some resistance. About you. Know almost. All my kid figuring out what he wants to do well, basically. Unless you give him some options. So you kind of leaving in that directions. Options to pick from because when you just go out there and it's trying to figure out somewhere Yo. Hey, guess what make? Good. Because you're not going to stick with. which would give some guys from options and you start kind of guide the middle way like Whoa. You can. I told my boys. In life you're going to, you're going to bust. Your ass will there be in the beginning of the. You all these heels right now and lifted weights working on your game and look where you are now. Millionaires or you cannot run no hills just hang out watch TV, go to movies with France all day and don't do nothing, and then after you graduate, go to college and find your job, you're going to be busting your ass to make ends meet. I. Say you were harder to it a work. Hard man pick one. I saw whole expose must have been a couple of weeks maybe a couple of months ago. PROBABLY ESPN on your youngest nineteen Lamelo and how this kid is a fee nom and GonNa go in the first round. He's played what he chose to play in Australia. Yes. So what was that decision coming out of high school to go play in a professional league in Australia versus go the college route or straight to the NBA or you can't go straight to the NBA right? To the NBA straight out of high school could they had that wrote? So Mellow was smart enough to to see what goes on in the college would happen tomorrow Jello. So it's like now I'm not allowed to use me I gave him I gave Ucla Lonzo. They ain't been the same since my son La. Did all that. HOOPLA. That was going on in Renton and nation and filled up the arenas and and use boys like Miss. They didn't give me that. Did. It so he lives in. Australia. Obviously. fulltime. Basketball. There was only a few months. I see you can pick Australia. Only if you've been around the world and you've been Lithuania and other places. So it's very easy to pick a spot that everybody speaks English and you're right on the beach. Yeah I know that'd be, blind? Yeah I. Feel like if I spent a couple months in Australia wouldn't wanNA come back. Exactly. How milam choice they could made probably way more money in China. Where you read more money over here but he didn't WanNa go to on the fact that they don't speak English and he. That he likes is not over there. Sauce on health issues going on it's. Very easy for him to say, okay forget about the money I just WanNa go somewhere mama be happy when speaking everybody speaks English and you only beach in the weather. Okay in Australia it was summertime over there. In November December. So Hey. Two Summers as you D do You do you have a wish for a team like to see him on? A wish. Yeah. Of course, I like to see him on a team where the coaches go. Let him be mellow and let him do what he does. Do. You know where where he goes is this you gotTa have the right coach believe in you and I saw any player is successful. They have their one coast and say you know what I think just in my God because it don't matter where you go look I had modest study in the backyard and away. But if you in La okay. We at home but we gotta ready the ask coach. Data No. I don't think they wrote. raggedy. Ass on the program. But I know what you're saying. Yeah. So any coaches in the league teams with coaches and League where you think would be a good fit for him. Well I know one guy would be a good fit for him but I don't think they're gonNA give him a job. I'd say Mark Jackson would be a great teachable. But you don't think he's going to get the nod for head coaching gig. Shooters to hey, another kosher pride be good from a blazes Tony System that he likes to run down. What do you think about the Lakers? What do you think about? Lebron how many years does Lebron have I? mean he still so dominant, but you can grayness beard now where you be dominated is. Walls you stronger than everybody is you keep their strength you're going to be dominant. Going to be dominated, you keep the strength I mean that and good you six eight you still running and you plan the Gart that gives you a long journey speaking wet curious 'cause you have your boys on. Some kind of Trish I assume you didn't Trish and plan attritional. US. Much thinner you'll be fine. We've got do some exercise. Me Sometime in training they say man do I need a nutritionist to. Lose weight and I used to get a big ballers. Olsen. Real. Hey, if you've been eating burgers eat one. Where you many cut it in half and you will lose weight. So for you. And we'll get the get the name out the apparel brand big baller brand INC as well. How does that? Where are we at the tennis shoes in your kids like when your son goes number one in the NBA draft who she is he wearing? What she was talking about what she was. Yeah. Oh GonNA wear. He's GonNa Wear Kumo. Now. Inside his endorsement deal with. Puma. Now why not your tennis you? Well. I don't have one created for them right now and he wanted to do something different. So delayed, do your thing and go ahead and do my. which is, it's not it's not I gave all three of my boys a signature shoe. Their. Another shoe is very simple to do that I. Like you get guys that go from one brand to another brand is okay. But I'm, not GONNA get into a big ordeal with it's like, okay. Do I have to come out with some some basketball shoes tomorrow note? Into things right now I'm guessing there was a bidding war, right? I mean everyone must have been interested well, is definitely going to be a somewhat of a bidding more but. How can you be too much on endorsement deal? That's what these Yeltsin's don't give. You have no older submitted. Now. You'll get a little bit and it's it's okay. I got like I said, it's cool for this and already know like I said with my boys in a big baller brand, it's a family brand so they always going to be with me. So like I say, if I felt like it, I'm GonNa make another shoe for mellow right now. Does this Puma Puma is not really well represented in the NBA now right there. So. This is their chance of what they're doing is they're this is what they're banking on your son Yes. Or they got going in place. And the only reason you can bank on him on a fact, you gotta treat him differently. Why you treat him differently because of me. What guy have they ever endorsed already had his own signature shoe. Sorry I'm sure you know Mr Ball Out of there's there's a cachet there's a value not just in the dollars but just in being. Signature Star you know what I mean like Steph. Curry was years ago when he was under armour's like slyke really big foray into the NBA it was more than more than the money. He was like doing under commercial even Jordan back in the day Nagy wasn't a big player in one, thousand, nine, hundred five or whatever it was. But they Michael Jordan was there guy you know there was a value that's worth more than the money. Exactly in his other value. Let's Say, it's the ownership thing because this matt. told all my son's even told mellow. I say Hey, let me let me putting in the right perspective. There's probably head. Which is You have no ownership in this. So whatever you choose to pick, they're going to do good whether his Puma Adidas Nike, big baller brand they all go to the moon when whoever gets you whoever does what they do, but here's the thing since Udall only. You're not going to get your your worth you going be cheated. Did. How's your wife doing she? Is She pan Was Love just respect the we sitting here talking and you asked me about my wife thank you I. Appreciate that very much. In this business when you're doing other things as the last day, a lot of people WANNA ask me they want get me on the show talk and stuff and only in the selective few angles say the selected few but some come from me heart asked me about my wife and I look forward to that and I had to say I appreciate but she's doing better and better he's got. Well I. I don't know what what's going on. So I'm not sure what she's getting better from is she getting better so I do. Oh, I know that. Two thousand seventeen. Wow. Yes, and she's rehabbing. Yes she's rehabbing like I, said she's getting understands everything but she can't get a lot of the words out real quick. So sometimes, it gets frustrating because she was one of them people that you just showed up I am. Lucky seeing here is is so obviously you guys are team and. And and a lot of MOMS would not be as supportive. This is sort of feels like a dad thing like Todd Miranda, Vich Dad or something. That's why I, consider myself. Lucky. found. A mate. That's that's like me. Which is which is loud to raise. Athletic, the basketball. So it was always like a family outing us. So it was never like, okay going do this for a couple of years and then she said I need a night out with the girl or I had enough of this. I can't stand the GM all day when you play. Your boys you you. Game at ten o'clock in the next game to win that one the next game six. So unique from ten in the morning to almost eight o'clock. And as you know three or four times when it's a tournament. So that's three or four days you got to do that. Right so tend to have somebody to be as tough as me to like. I'll give you a little a little a little story here. we lost the game by I think three or four points. and. Lonzo had forty forty something points. In the end they did good anyways we ended up losing by three and I said the same thing I said lady sees all odds score forty three points we need to score forty seven points. and. She was like she had two more buckets we would've won. You know my team in the same thing. You know Melo Melo was playing he was in kindergarten. And we were playing eighth grade team. So in middle school. And so sometimes, he didn't knock down little but most moms be like oh that's my baby. Don't that's up to high. She'll be the side same gift chace up. It sounds funny coming out of her mouth because it's like, okay, she goes no, she's done. So you can never like like, say we lose she wouldn't be like Oh. You guys did awesome and it's just your dad you know she would always be my Si- like y'all got a win. And it was it was cool because you never had that baby and concept, which is a motherly instincts because you don't want you the beer. Yeah no I was just certain kinds of thinking about this having kids myself and it's like I'm I'm the one is kind of pushing, but the mom is the one that's coddling and the next explaining I'm pushing too hard or whatever that thing is. But yet you guys were on the same page all since day one. Right and that's what a boys a successful usually. Most of your challenge, the kids are usually go come from. A family that has a lot but usually if the father's not there or or different fathers there, and it's it's good when you can have both parents on the same page and a lot of times that won't happen on the fact that either mom is just home where your home by herself or maybe your mom and dad is there but the today is doing so much working on outside to provide for the family. What was your job your profession and your wife's as well when the kids obviously. You don't get paid when you're eight to play basketball and you guys got to travel and sign up these tournaments by that, I've done it a little bit with my son like there's a lot of travel it ain't cheap. Right well, here's here's here's the thing. When you when you make yourself so good you'll have to travel I just do the local tournaments that my boys play up. So high in it was like, okay they're going to be on -Tario, they're going to be in Anaheim. And I WANNA play the big ball guess what I come to you. You've gotta come to me. So do enough talking to say we CAN'T K- lose but you want to shut me up. So guess what you come out there and getting a little tournaments that we but what was your profession? Professor was a personal trainer. I made my money in the beginning to be a professional athlete, and then after I finish playing football in ninety six. Okay. Came home in. Mexican. I. Got my own training business was called big baller training. Which is one of the best things and my wife she was a teacher. So she leave at seven she home by thirty and never had to do a lesson plan because European teacher, right? Out of the House. So I ain't never got a going away. Mile now we could. Even from the boys growing up. You know when she had two boys. Monday. Through Friday you don't have to do not getting up. And night I got the boys the baby all day. So. We work together and then when she come home. Now. You can deal with. Darrow whatever as good but as far as breakfast and taking care giving up your own babies cry late at night, we'll get a wash sportscenter MTV be of all night. We work together and it turns out where we being at home with the boys all the time. The fact that my job is out of the House, I get to discipline them my way they get the crying. I won't shake Mauvais and they they did use about themselves. They get hot all day. My scenario was like this. I was thinking if you if you can lay on your stomach and crime for five minutes straight neck up, you got very strong lungs in Scotland. So is a perfect storm I mean you're. All and she was a phys ed teacher. She had that schedule with no homework or lesson plan to deal with she was backed by two three in the afternoon. You can now see how this plan was hatched Gina Question Yeah thanks You're obviously you seem like a very strong mentor to the boys. It makes sense I'm wondering about the mentor being mentors to each other all being in the same business and having the same passion Can you speak a little bit about that? Well I don't think they mentors to each other babies following a day I. Don't follow me because that's what me and my wife instilled in them. So you're going to follow what you see all the time. So. So one of the things is an old people used to say early career. This man if had always hyper, you guys I. I'm just saying how good my product is. And I'll call them my brother because me and my wife had him. And that people like to say, Oh, what else are boys wouldn't be? No Lavar? No without no LAVAR wouldn't be no voice. I think that's A. That's a math that's a math we can't argue with. What I'm what I'm saying is. I made this little comment and people say you know kind of funny but he's got a true I feel like my boys are like phones you keep making one better than the next one. So whoever is the oldest going to set the stage which is Lonzo and guess what the only people chasing mellow and Jello they only take Lonzo they don't see nobody beyond him. So they WANNA be better than him. That's why they striving. Lonzo would just Rudy Putin. Good also mellow and. That good. Because they don't have nothing to grasp on to say I want to be better than this. I. I know you're entrepreneur. I know you know a lot about raising boys, kids and athletes I feel like you got a children's book in you because Mellow Changed Chasing Jello and yellow and Lonzo. Dr Sushi, we got the makings of a children's book with your inspirational stuff at the bottom. I has anyone ever talk to you about a children's book. No relatives point but you know what? was asked me before you need to make a book how to raise kids. 'cause our definitely by book like I said, all my boys were walking by eight months. Everybody was potty trained by ten months. We pick about when he was little like you don't have. No. As. I know he wear draws. I. Bet you a lot of ladies like A. Day to go to store, it gets them stopped by. Tall Talgo target or Walmart or something like that, and I'll have all three of my boys and people will come up to me and said, how do you get to walk with all three boys and none of them touch nothing in the store? They don't they don't know toys grant for no candidate or walk this way these wall on the side of you how do you get that? Straightened out. I bet you if Lavar was the one who actually carried the children in his womb, it wouldn't have gone. Nine months would have been seven weeks about. Four let's do this boil the water. Never thought that Mr Bal in my MBA would have so much in common with the early potty training us right timely ball reference. What? You know what? Sometimes when you have kids? What is the May to be special I don't think you would have sometimes she had more accident, but you know. We had ours on purpose and I wanted to be special so I want people to be at all. Time their kids. It's a lot of time with him and let me show you how easy it is. To potty training, you get this little classic Party and what I would do is on that party to the the little number one, whatever or number two. You'll be crying screaming, but until they put something that. I I would let him up and like you know how kids. Crying or wait up in the middle of the night. At twelve o'clock one o'clock I'll wake them up myself and what did he did sleeping put a little code duties on their toilet. Have have. Cuba and use the bathroom output right maybe she. Was Thinking. Among told him again after feed them breakfast lunch. Again, so he can use to that and guess what these kids are young age. Draws they don't want. Paying they don't want to be with us today. Note years my wife if you're going to take them with you on the weekend, don't put no pamper on, they'll pull up hamper. You do is when you go into a store to the bathroom, you lead story go to. Take to the bathroom. So he won't get wet but if you just hanging out and you WANNA go store to store without doing all this you don't WanNa do that with me. But if you WANNA take. What you wanted to do and it's All guess what probably try that works young boys you try to have with young girls. They go right from the PORTA potty to the poll. That's. Boy So I don't know nothing about. Well, let me give you a plug ball in the family new episodes, Sunday six PM eastern time on facebook watch and also the Pera Line. You can go to big baller brand INC DOT COM this was. Eye Opening Lavar I. Hope we can have you back and have another chat and I. I wish your wife a continued recovery. lavar ball everybody. All right. Let me just hit Tommy John and then we'll move onto a genus now second favorite guest today because. She Dug Lavar with that mind ballack. Reference. 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#1075 Van Nuys, Van Nuys!

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#1075 Van Nuys, Van Nuys!

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I mean, if you say, you are you must be well, my heart-to-heart world, we live in your heart. You are. I am. I wanna thank get Roman dot com slash ADS for this show. Lifelock dot com promo code, Adam, truecar dot com and Pluto TV. Got a question. We'll get to in a second sit drew. Yeah. First time, I've had this dot, but a really real controlled thing. Yeah. Control. Yeah. I've realized what the difference between what I do in the front of the office in the front of my building. Where all the stuff is going on all the creative stuff. And what goes on in the back of the in the background, the autumn motive stuff is going on. And I realize in the front it's a lot of. We didn't get into Sundance. Why not movies great? They're not. I don't know. They're not doing it. What about Tribeca? Now. They're not doing it. Either him. What about Netflix? Everybody sent now. But it's good good as anything they deliver. They put out. Yeah. They passed. Then there's a lot of it's like I love building the building part. I don't like when you go to the city of locker Senna, and they go put chain link fences around those oak trees, and I go about we just put some orange mash around now chain link there up on a hill. You can't get to 'em. Now, they're nowhere near worm building. Now. But the chain link why that way my whole fucking point. I I I'd even. I don't even know that was possible for you to tell me what to do on my own property and fires the trees go. But the ones I can't get to why do after put chain link around. So we're going to climb the fence and get to the roots. I'm putting orange mash around them. It's a lot easier and faster and more visible, but you need chain link or you're not gonna sign off on the permit users. Oh, it's. It's insane. It's in Saint do you push back. What he say? Well, we're going to go cross the street. There's nothing. They answer is. No, we don't sign off on. It lets you go put chain link. That's how it works. Now. Building is wildly rewarding that makes you wanna kill yourself. And I realize when you're dealing with all the other facets of life. You're you're at the mercy of people in your often at the mercy. It's the department of building and safety, you're fucked. No control, you no control if no control. You know? You're right. You know, your tax payer. You're know, you're safe. You know, you're qualified. You know, you're good in the answers. Now, you'll get it all the time for nothing for no reason, it doesn't make sense. And obviously, the less sense. It makes the more out of control you feel and that's what you get in the government. And that's what you oftentimes get in society. When you go to the back of the shop, you're in one hundred percent control doesn't mean it's going to go good. It's gonna go as good as you are good. I mean, when I sit down with Sean, and I start talking about what is going on with the suspension of this car, and he's explaining he's gonna make new control arms that are shorter and the ball joints is going to pull the more camber into it or whatever it is. You go. Okay. He's good. And he's in control. And he's going to go over there on that lane is gonna make himself some control arms, and he's coin to go back and put them on the car, and I feel completely good about it. And so does he. Because the rest of the world you'd have the department of building safety showing up and going, oh, you went to control arms. Let me ask my supervisor. Then they've come back and go, no control arms, and you go why not go. Well, you can petition for thing. But there is no. You come up, you know, when you come up with an alcohol, and as I told you before when you come out with a label for the alcoholic. The I hit our sponsors top here. I'm so sorry. I don't watch this speech traffic singer, Kamala, Harris, if you did that my fault. It's actually my fault. I always tell them to clear, so it's everyone's mind. That's correct. And it's true. Especially your thought nothing now. Listen thought wrong you go. That's something. Okay. So long as it's wrong your loud to think you go. I started thinking about it think about all that's going on on Facebook. And all this stuff. People being pulled off all the censorship. When you come out with an alcohol brand, you have a lengthly and somewhat expensive process of getting your label approved you have to get your label approved by the ATF, essentially, and they tell you they don't tell you. But the people you're dealing with tell you making your wine or whatever it is like. Look if there's something they don't like about the label. They'll just reject it. And they won't tell you. What's wrong with it? And they can reject anything for any reason. And then they don't have to explain it to you. And they won't. And then you just get back in line you to sign up and resubmitted in two months, but there's not gonna be there's no negotiating, and there's no anything like, you know, I literally said, oh, I was doing a sort of cutesy one on the back label of. The first the first one I wrote the got rejected was like here's the story of angry. I had some wine I had and I ran out of red wine. So I said I went to the alcohol cabinet, and they're like now don't get say that like. I have an alcohol cabinet. And that's what I did. Yeah. Not on the label. It was like why? Then a like you talking about alcohol like, I don't know. There's a thing that says alcohol thirteen percent or ninety percent. Like underneath the story. I really can't talk about that. Now. Try something else. Jesus. I was like, okay. He who is in charge of everything. And I have no recourse. What is my recourse lucky on put my own bottle out now? So then the next one is June peach pear, white assume the white, and I said, you know, this is for the, ladies or something. But I said this. This peach of a gal with a great pair, you know, they'll peach bear. But watch out fellas. She packs a punch now can't allude to it being strong or whatever. And I'm like why why why not it's alcohol? I'm telling people care if the Saint regular saying green nine percent. This is. Eighteen nineteen percent. Twenty percent, this pack. Watch outs. Packs a punch not. Change it Jesus. At least they told you what needs to be changed. Yes. In that case. They did you can't say you can't allude to what it does. Can you just change it? And they'll go k now through I don't I don't know shit. That's flammable, says flammable all over here. You know what I mean? This is our Kahal to be consumed. It seems negligent to not say what it'll do the point is they don't know. And they don't care that just go. Fuck it. I get paid. Whether I accept it or reject it. So they don't care, and that's what you get. And that's why you don't want these people to have as much power. They do not wheels. Now, I love me some wheels. Have a funny clip for Kamala Harris poll up for Austin van is about oil. Hey, what's up mystical allow or doing? Well. Sorry about van is. Man is just great brother. Then is just great. Do you ever make? Shop fan is shit gonna bring Tara Maria some fancy car you got down there. You're gonna bring you're gonna bring it down to our shop. Where are you in van Nuys number told, you can do your wealth change, please fully synthetic sports times for forty bucks that Shurmur one light? Oh, Sherman way. Why he? Fucking horrible. The worst. Well, listen, I I got three shops now. So I got one in Burbank might be a little bit closer to you. And then one in Santa Clarita, also care. Babycare these prices for the customers in the area. Hold on second. There's really funny series of videos ever showed them. They're like pan is. The guy does he puts it to like Dallas, you know, like the theme song from the nineties or eighty and he's like. People fucking shopping carts fallen over and matches this out in the street and bump stagger around. Is this ran is. Who does this guy makes me laugh every time you go back to the beginning? Start. What's his name? The account that this was uploaded to Dr Jedi. The pan is tourism video the fast. If you grow up in the valley, it's the past because ran is is a pile of shit. Now, it wasn't when I was a kid. But yeah, it looks like he goes on online. Everything's Dr Jeff lease I Instagram posts YouTube meeting. I just set up set up the I would just go full screen and give it a second reboot or whatever. But play it for drew. You're gonna laugh here. It's only a minute long. I thought parents was always shit. Hold on. Now. Just a found should grab your shopping. Go into Newtown. Answer the call. Waiting for you. Spend so much to say. On sold on the street as please. Kids to moon bounce battleground they're being every week. Watch out kids for the man and up shit. Oh, he's just laying ice cream. What the bathtub gets health care from STD clan. Or so your crab on the street? Like this truck or just forty dollars or take fees squad cars for free Donald. Or you'll end up like this guy bleeding out on the street. Jaipur too. Wow. So good. Makes me laugh. I don't even laugh at anything. I just I used to teddy Lewis lived in van is like I had friends who lived in van is it was a normal suburb. You could go to van Nuys. Well, one of the things you notice the highlight ride. My bike van is north of. I believe it was our city the city council legalized street sales. So it's on now. Well, I don't know if they legalize they did. Well, no, I know they did that. But I'm saying they never enforced street. And anyway, they didn't care. So it became highly Hispanic. They started selling everything on the street, and no one did anything to Scott worse and worse. He's got some like, I don't know Canoga park ones or he's got there's going on. I do it makes me laugh every time. I'd like to show him to Garcetti and whoever else. The city council was hey, this the pile of shit. You guys preside over how do you feel? Yeah. You watch the video. You're just looking. At Tijuana, essentially, sorry. Okay. You pull it up all the spot Canoga park. Awesome. I want to I don't know what. So satisfying about what is it? The eighties theme song. It his voice is funny. The eighties music is ironic ironic, and then the images are all too familiar. Yeah. Just. Yeah. People pushing shopping carts selling corn. More mayo plays. Now, I gotta get my label on my uncle hall put through the vetting machine. But if you want to sell food on the street and van is that you made in your kitchen. No promise that her botchy out there on the street or make out in the street. Yeah. Why should we regulate that? It's why would you why don't know? It's just things you consume re enterprise Hammond, plus all the tax dollars rolling in from all the corn being sold on street. You know and say no to that. Yeah. They're paying their taxes. Oh, yeah. They wouldn't let them go. They didn't right. Lifelock. Man. Recent study shows global Mao wear rose for the third straight year reaching nearly two hundred seven million attacks in two thousand eighteen up eleven percent. Plus hackers shifting their hiding, ransomware and attach PDF documents lookout the coming after you baby. Today's world your personal info is everywhere. So many ways cybercriminals can take what's yours. Good thing. Lifelock identity theft protection ads the power of Norton security to help protect against threats your devices, you cannot. Easily see or fix on your own. If there's a problem, they're going to work to fix it. But you won't have a problem if you get lifelock. So I suggest you get lifelock, right? 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I would like to just load these videos up and go down to Garcetti's office and show them into show. What the fuck is going on. What is this is? He didn't make this up on a computer just drive down the street, and you film people and there's fucking people flopped all over the place and shopping carts filled with food and people going through garbage cans is the ugliest shittiest some hard of the world. We're living in it. And so awesome. Right. No. I bothering me. All right. I bothered me. Both standpoint that we have we have to have Canoga park. Do. Let's just watch it. I I'm upset about the people languishing in the streets. I'm upset about what the consequences are going to be set. The quality of life is just just gone. All right. Well, listen more utopia our tax dollars out about. No. Mass transit with tax that. Scotland Yard or Casey's get hit on. If bike you might lose. These guys or that guy. I'm not messing with that guy over there. Come see that fat. Up. Con MI but work, you'll lose your house. Fred. Spend. Eddie turns can't come to. If you want. China. Our? Guy makes me laugh. I met him at a Prager vent. I funny. Funny time that guy. All right. Let's see what was Austin one from all poor awesome me on the van on Austin. Yeah. Again, what's up match? Sorry. You're you're van is me. It's weird. Oh, man, you guys should doing Google serene image thing of wide oak and Sherman way you guys you'll never stop throwing up there. I'd fuck it go there and kill myself. Well, check it out. I mean, the real thing is is you know, what I wanted to ask you about. It's really about synthetic oil all ears more scientific, right? You're you're Greg guys. I don't know what happened that you kinda just missed me. Like like like, you forgot like Ricky red-headed stepchild. No, you're good. You're Ben is a great place. Man. It's where I was born and raised in the. That guy was a great place. It's a shit show now. But you definitely is. You know, I'm kinda sticking out of the, you know, little taco stands on every fucking corner. Don't get me wrong. It's it's it's not it's not the most beautiful city pile of its it's architecturally depleted. It's fucking sad. It was a bunch of cinderblocks ship boxes were built in the sixties and seventies. The architects here is bad. It doesn't look when you go back east, you go to Baltimore, you go to Chicago, you go to whatever Detroit they have urban blind, and they have poverty and homelessness, but at least the fucking roof line is interesting. This is that minus the roof. Why this? The ship boxes that were built that have. No, no, redeeming value at all architecturally and all the poor people and all the drugs and all the food being sold on the street. So it is lose lose and lose. There's something at least quaint charming about some some of these places that had some sort of robust histories, the twenties and thirties, and now it's all falling apart. This everything was built in nineteen seventy one. So it's a shit on shit shell little their ship. Yeah. I don't get me wrong. I love it dearly. Go ahead. Awesome. So by the way, Canoga park video amazing thing that was his first that he did I drink a busy my buddies back in the day. What found amazing amazing video about synthetic oil out of just just real quick. What what what is your take on the validity of synthetic oil synthetic oil is good, and you should use it whenever you can. And the certain engines that are like older, and you have to add zinc and things like that to them because of I don't know of solid lifters and bunch of stuff like that using when you can every time and now you can use in tech on older engines, so I got I got a seventy nine nine thirty five. It's got synthetic in it like you want synthetic every new car has synthetic every old car can have synthetic, but you have to make sure you use the rights and thank for your old car. Joe gibbs. Cbs Joe Gibbs racing makes like synthetic with highs zinc content for your vintage motor for for instance. But do your research on your synthetic get the right synthetic and then use synthetic. That's what I want to say. Okay. Thanks awesome. Yeah. It used to be. There was a sort of mobile one one-size-fits-all great. If your car's newer, whatever it is. But now it's a world where you go online. You do little homework. Find out what works read some of those forms chats and things like that. And then just go get the stuff that's right for you. All right, Gary. Yes, sir. Kamala harris. Yeah. Speaking at the the fight for freedom fund dinner of the Detroit branch of the NWC. ACP looks like this is posted Sunday Monday. But that's just what says here, and I believe this is the section that you'd be interested in his talking about how race is Trump as let's speak truth. And it's a hard truth, and it's a real truth. A hold on Steiner. I go back to the beginning. Drew? Listening. A Matt just imagine. Everybody, Gary, Matt imagine. But just imagine I woke you up from a twenty year coma. Yes. And I just woke you up, and I went this woman. She's an attorney general not turn general issues prosecutor here in California. She's educated. I dunno Harvard or Yale or something are Cory Booker, whomever. You know, here's your resume. She's a she's a licensed attorney. She's a prosecutor for the state of California. She's got a resume this long her education. Harvard Stanford bub-bubba Harvard. Okay. Super Howard Howard. All right. Super -ccomplish. Obviously bright, you don't get to do what she does for living for not brighter. Cory Booker Harvard. What the Sanford went to Cambridge, whatever. And I just woke up from your ten year slumber. And I said. Okay. We have a person in the White House. And this is what the super sober smart person. This is their assessment assessment of that person you've been asleep for twenty years. So I just woke you up, and I went here you go. What would you just hear it as you're hearing it brand new at the feelings would be? Let's speak truth. And it's a hard truth in. It's a real truth, racism, sexism, anti-semitism, Islamaphobia, homophobia, transphobia are real in this country, and these are old forms of hate that have in the last two years received new fuel. This guy in the White House said Neo Nazis were fine people when they marched on Charlottesville. He's a tact communities of color and leaders of color by name. He's denigrated entire countries on the continent of Africa with found language. No, president should speak. Let's speak truth here and today this president is in trying to make America great. He's trying to make America hate. All right now, if you just woke up from your slumber, you'd be like clansman. Yes, you go. Whoa. My god. We'd need us down or. Yeah. It's going on over there. What kind of what we elect right? How did this guy? Get elected. Absolutely. Oh my God. Right. What happened this country? That's what you heard that speech. I would think people like in the streets calling each other names, right? Because look at our resume this very thoughtful sober intelligent person, you'd feel the same way. If you heard Cory Booker, speak and you woke up after twenty years she'd win oh my God. What's going on? But you surely wouldn't think nothing's going on no crisis, right? Do the twenty year experiment with everything you hear and wonder what the fuck is going on. Canoga park. More mayo, please. All right. More truecar true cash offers. That's right. You go to your smartphone. Your computer, enter license plate number watch those card. Details pop-up answer questions and you get an accurate true cash offer from a local truecar certified dealer that fast, and you bring your car in check it out at that truecar certified dealer, and they'll check it out with you. And then you leave your check. That's it. 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We have a responsibility to each other. We have responsible to take the fucking vaccine. So we don't get this thing and infect other people don't worry about yourself worry about the community you have responsibility that we've gotta get out. We gotta stop thinking about herself and start thinking about other people that we are part of a community with whom we are responsible to we've lost that completely. So I want to get the vaccine last week you need it to get it. Yeah. You can go get it doctors order most most pharmacies. But I'll give it to if you one. Yeah. Give it to me because I just ran a God. This is going to be a disaster. And we are not properly covered. If you're. From nineteen fifty seven to nineteen eighty either get your tighter checked or get the vaccine tighter a blood test to see if you haven't measles antibody floating around. But sometimes simpler, less expensive just get the vaccine it's harmless does not hurt and his nothing zero. And you probably didn't have German measles. You get covered against that too. And that's it go take the damn vaccine as part of your civic duty to everyone else if this thing gets into the homeless population in in in Los Angeles, forget it. I'm gonna go down later tonight and put it in the keystone. I don't think it'll work that way my health tip of the day is I was just at the supermarket, and I was going I want to get something crispy. But I'm I don't want any the flour and the potatoes and the corn and all that stuff. And like they have a whole section at the market at the markets like veggie chips, veggie veggie, pita, veggie, whatever every single one you turn around. We'd flower rice, lower carbohydrate, eighty grams. There's no there's no such thing as veggie pasta veggie anything the closest you're gonna get to string beans veggie pasta. If you guys want something to dip into your walk. That's got a little crunch to it. You gotta get the fried cheese. You gotta basically the kids are virtual venom saying that chippy the thin kind of chip experience. It's it's either cheese. That's just nothing. But cheese, it's been made into a chip. There is no veggie chip. And. By the way, when it comes to labelling stuff, again not into more regulation, but you're calling it veggie chip you have a bunch of pictures of vegetables on the front, and you turn it over. And it's like we'd flower soybeans any back to discuss products and tips and stuff do that. You can also go to an Kroll dot com and see when I'm playing around town this Friday and Saturday Bray improv with Adam Ray, I love that kid. Good time up on stage. Two shows Friday to show Saturday, and you can check out not Taco Bell. Material. My stand up special very proud of it. So I hope you enjoy that chassis high tunes. Everyone else true dot com for the family pods. And also Dr. Next news. Don't forget offbeat with Ricky Anderson and MIR Harris that's say until next time. 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How To Gain Strength Through Vulnerability - Lisa Nichols

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How To Gain Strength Through Vulnerability - Lisa Nichols

"This podcast is brought to you. Mind valley if you're new to mind valley or if you are a big mind body fan checkout mind at all access. Molly provides the world's best human transformation programs in everything from mind to body soul spirit to entrepreneurship and work productivity. Everything is unlocked but just two dollars a day. Get access to the world's most transformative education visit mine valley dot com forward slash now that's minded valley dot com forward slash and. Oh w when you're willing to use your voice. I you have to recognize that you have one you got to recognize that no matter your past you were given a voice and your voice was given not to keep to yourself. Your voice is not a secret and you have to be willing to use every experience that's ever happened in your life. Not as a fortress holding you from using your voice but as the fuel on why you will use your voice. I emission kiani founder of mine valley the school for human transformation. You're listening to the minor league. Podcast where we'll be bringing you. The greatest teachers and thought leaders on the planet discussed the world's most powerful ideas and personal growth for mind body spirit. And you want to inspire people with your voice from your child to your sibling to your significant other to your community to the world to this room. Be willing to love me enough to tell me your truth then. Love me enough to tell me macho than love me enough. Just tell me the truth. Be willing to touch the edge of your own comfort zone. You show me yours and our show you mine. You show me your heart and i'll show you my love. You let me know that you're willing to be imperfect and still have a perfectly giving serving loving life you give me permission to let my imperfection out into the world to see you want to speak at another level. You gotta be willing to love at another level. Forgive at another level show up at another level speak up at another level. Pray at another level you have to be willing on every level to up level who you be on a daily basis sand and recognizing that when you open up and use your voice everything that comes out after you speak really doesn't belong to you. See very difficult to speak phenomenally and to not be good. Not be great but to be. What freakin forgettable is difficult to be unforgettable. While you're still trying to look good you can't do two things as chasing two rabbits c. Unforgettable has everything to do with serving at a level so high so big so massive that people feel like they have to change their lives because they crossed joe path. Yes yes yes yes. Yes yes see. See when you're willing to use your voice. I you have to recognize that you have one you got to recognize. No matter your pass. You were given a voice and your voice was given not to keep to yourself. Your voice is not a secret says the secret teacher and you have to be willing to use every experience. That's ever happened in your life. Not as a fortress holding you from using your voice but as the fuel on why you will use your voice you gotta be willing to not stand in your story but stand on your story. Yes it's not in spite of your past that you get to be amazing that you get to be a change agent that you'll get to transform. Lives is because of your past that you're perfect for such a job when you own it like that see. There's no question in my certainty about my life. Can you walk with that level of certainty so that when the wind comes and when the wind blows and it will come and it will blow and it will be a storm and it will be a tornado and it will look like divorce and it will like bankruptcy and it will look like an illness and it will look like a loss when it comes. It will rock you but it won't move you see when you stand in that certain t y'all breathe damn see intense. They didn't get memo. I came for your breakthrough. I came to inspire you beyond any other moments. You may have had some inspiration around how you use your voice how you own the power of your voice because see at one time. I didn't know i had a voice. I didn't know so. Listen to my voice. I didn't know my voice mattered. I remember it was the first class of bus students to the valley. Right here in canoga park and i always say they told us in the inner city that we were going to the valley. They've forgot to tell the valley we were coming and that remember. I never seen myself as anything less than anybody. Just didn't have that conversation until i went there. And i remember they were having tryouts for charlie's angels remember. Charlie's angels you young bucks. I'm not talking about the new ones sock about the old school. charlie angels. You know. Fair faucet in kate jackson right and they were having try out. For charlie's angels and the bionic woman you remember lindsay wagner lindsay wagner was amazing and i said oh my god this is my chance. I had been teased every day of the school year. There was this one kid. Bryan and brian would remind me every day they've got. It made a mistake when god created me. He would say things like lisa. God dropped you in the tar pit and god left you in the oven too long. And as summarized it as damn. I'm god's mistake really. And every day brian. We'll do that so about three months in to the school year. When they had tryouts. I was always athletic. Lived in south central soldiers fast. Let me be honest and clear. But we can transcribe that till athletic so when they had try outs i said oh my god if i try out and i make it and i become one of charlie's angels or become the biannic woman then i belong see. I just wanted to belong. Anybody know what i'm talking about. When you just wanted to belong hands up one hand up two hands but that's really you. I just wanted to belong whether you want to belong to your family. You want it to belong to your community. I just wanted to belong by any means necessary. So i was excited on this day. I mean i'm practicing at home. I'm doing all the little things. I think they might ask us to do. And forty forty excited. Girls stepped up to the line to reconsider. Do the three things that you had to do. The three challenges you have to cross in order to become one of the charlie's angels or the bannock woman. I was the only little chocolate grow at here. Just looking a little kiss. So the first event was the hundred yard dash ready set. Go and i ran ran ran when i crossed the finish. Line the first person just hit the fifty yard. Mark lisa nichols wins. The first event on my guess one down two to go. I'm almost in. I'm almost gone bologne. second event. Second event oh my god. They had so many things they kept deciding. And now it's like twenty girls left. We're all standing there and they're okay so now we want you guys to jump over chair and every girl jumped over the chair and they jumped in some didn't quite clear chair. Some parents have to go to the dentist immediately. But i did something different. When i've been down to go over the chair. I did a little extra. When i came up on due to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to and i leapt over the chair and i landed and then after wonder woman on. They were confused. They don't know what hit them. They said lisa nichols won the second of in as well and then the third and final event was the role. Stop freeze sucker. You remember that. I was very important. You have to do your hair right. And i did it. Perfect on the dime. So when the final eight nine girls standing on the line. I'm like oh my god. My life is going to change right now. I'm going to belong. See the people that you're going out to speak to the people that you'll speak to one to one are one to small group. Are one too many are online through a webinar or facebook. Harbor you touch them. All they want to do is below. And so i'm standing on the line. And i'm like life is about the look way different. The first thing i'm gonna do is get my other. Charlie's angels girl get my woman and we're going to go and punch brian. I gotta get in. I mean i wasn't a fifth grade jaw right. And so they said charlie's angels number one. Okay diane diana's excited. Oh god yes yes. She goes to the side now. There's three judges three girls and one guy. He must be charlie china's number two theresa. Okay that's cool. That's cool cool. I got one more. Charlie's angels or the bottom woman. That's all right sorry good. Charlie's angels number three cam like the black woman. Anyway she spent all right. That's all right. That's all right woman linda. That's not my name. I thought they made a mistake. They meant to say lisa. Until i saw linda running over to the judge. Jumping up and down running with her other new team members new superheroes jumping up and down. I realized that s okay. They said they was gonna one. Alternate one alternate. I'll be the ought. Is somebody got to get the flu. The chicken pox. Somebody somebody i'm gonna be right there. I'm not missing a day of school. Today she missed. School won't be right. There and the alternate shelby stood there for a moment. I can hear a few boos people upset. My finally mustered up the nerve to go over to the judges. And i still wonder why did i do that. His sent me in a spiral for years but in the moment i didn't know what they were about to say. I didn't know what was about to hit me right in the face. I said skills me. Why didn't you choose me one. Every single event. I ran the fastest. Rose up free suck on the diamond. The asphalt was hot. Adjunct over the chair and i made the sound effects and one of the judges long beautiful blonde hair. She said lisa. We know you won every event. But we couldn't choose you. Which charlie's angels are the bond woman will you ever look like and that day was the day that i began to blame myself for my story. I don't know if any of you have ever been born into a conversation or an experience. The economic reality geographical location an origin of culture religion. You ask yourself one there another why me here and so i begin this conversation. Why me why me this skin. Why made this community. Why may this culture. Why made this family. Why cannot been born in canoga park. Why visited where it looked like. Everything was great and they got to be the super she rose. Why for the next fifteen years. I asked that for the next fifteen years. I set inside a person. Oh blame and more than anything. shame conversation. Anybody know what i'm talking about for the next fifteen all tried to do was prove i was good enough. Prove our smart enough. Prove that i was worthy of choosen. Anybody know what i'm talking about. And then i discovered that. I wanted to begin to use my voice. I could hear this thing in my voice when i spoke. I think there's something. I think there might be a gift up under all that junk and i begin to try my voice out and i was in a church. I was delivering a home. I won't do all of it but the beginning of it was something like this. My beautiful sisters frying their brains going insane right at the end of my block. My beautiful brothers exterminating terminating and self assassinating. All for the sake of the rock. At the end of my block see it was about my community and it was in my church. I wanted to let them know that i saw them. My mother my beautiful brothers. Exterminating terminating self assassinating. All for the sake of my rock. My mom was being robbed on my back. Doorstep babies being killed right at my feet brothers executing brothers on my front lawn. Oh someone's grandfather died from not enough to eat right at the end of my block. What is bizarre deranged insane occurrence. This is life breath in existence in my world at the end of my block. Should i run. Should i hide. Should i leave damn want to cry. Should i become a part of the problem. Lord do i become a part of the solution is i know is that i will be a part of something. Good right here right now on my block and at the end of the speech i got a standing ovation from the fifteen thousand people that were in this church. It was the biggest audience ever spoken front of as i walked through the audience. People put their hands on my shoulders. Lisa job well done and all of a sudden. I heard this voice. That was so familiar with his hand on my shoulder. She said you were amazing. And i turned around. And i looked and it was televisions by onic woman. Lindsay wagner middle say. I wanted to be a fifth grade. Ran real fast. I won every event. You know how you hold onto your junk right. Come on you guys. How many of you your future is trying to open up to you. But you won't let go your pass. Come on you guys. there's just how true there's a lesson in this story so many things are trying to come to you. So many doors are trying to open. But we're so attached to who we've been that we can't quite become all of who were supposed to be in that moment. I said i did. You have been down jumped out due to know really. I did that. I said i'm not just saying that. For y'all i was all in my story. Some of us all in our story. And i looked at her. I said they said. I couldn't be you because i was black. They set. i couldn't be you. Because i never looked like you and i knew i could never make myself look like you. I do a lot of things well. But i don't do blonde. I didn't say that part. But i have to say that i have to say that right now. I said i wanted to be you. And they wouldn't let me be you. And i began to cry as you can see steel years later at steel. That thing for me and she looked at me with the most gentle beautiful hand. 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Branch Wars

Office Ladies

57:24 min | 5 months ago

Branch Wars

"I'm jenna fischer. I'm angela kinsey. We were on the office together and we're best friends and now we're doing the ultimate office rewatch podcast just for you each week. We will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scene stories. That only two people who were there can tell you where the offs ladies get out. Your fakey stashes everybody. Because it's time for branch worse stash day on office ladies. It's season four episode ten written by indicating and directed by joss weeden. There's so much good. Fake stash stash is lingo for mustache. Oh jenner thank you. Thank you for breaking that down. I wanted to break it down. I bring everything on office ladies. It's what we do. I'm gonna hit you with a summary guys. Karen his back she is now. The regional manager of the utica branch in she offers stanley a higher paying job to leave scranton. Guess what michael's reaction is to that he flips out. Yes very much. So meanwhile pam oscar and toby have created a finer things club. Viner things club. Here's exploded andy. Tries to join. but he's rejected and michael and dwight trick jim into going on a sales call but they actually take him to utica to prank karen as a revenge for trying to poach stanley. That's a lot of this was a big episode for us. I mean anytime we traveled. You know it was a big deal. This is something i have to say to you. I have to get this off my chest. Jenna there's been a few times. I'm gonna hit you with the summary okay and every time the only thing going through my brain is hit may with us. Some marie gone ahead. You the some. What song are you singing. I'm trying to me with your shot. Oh i thought you were singing. Hit me with your summary. Did you hear that that was brittany on my. Yeah well anyway. I hear joan jett while. I'm glad you got that off your chest because god forbid you would have had to carry that through this whole podcast. You know what it was weighing on me. And i feel lighter good fastback number one like i said earlier. This episode was written by kaeling. This was the seventh episode she had written and she was nominated for outstanding writing in a comedy series in the two thousand eight. Nwa c p image awards for this episode yet. When i was looking at mendis award history I found this. What i mean mindy has been nominated up and down emmys and things than she's winning things. She is celebrated deservedly so the lady is very talented in two thousand thirteen time. Magazine listed mindy as one of the one hundred most influential people in the world. Dang mandy you guys have to understand like mandy was on office with us and we're all like just getting our hair and makeup done and she's in her twenties and were just being girlfriends and now she is just a force just a powerhouse and we always knew that she was super smart and talented. And just this is awesome. I love that all her dreams have come true. Yes and she's a mom. And i know that was a big dream. I know i'm just so happy for her. Mindy we love you. We're here for it mandy loret. We will be your girl gang. Cheering you on super proud. All right fastback number two okay. Fan question from ryan annika. and vivian. friedman. Where did you film the utica office. Ooh some kanta. Pd a comment fill it. You know it. It's a location breakdown so angie. We've talked a lot about how oftentimes we would build a temporary set for another office like built more brit over on our warehouse stages Well kent told me that the size of the utica under mifflin branch was just way too big and way too costly so they took it on location. They found a business park in canoga park and this building had a very large empty office suite so are set. Decorators just went in and decorated it to be thunder mifflin utica and they also filmed all the parking lot scenes in that same canoga park business lot. I remember we were on the road for this episode because it also meant. I had a few days off in the middle of the week. That was always very exciting. When you read a script and there were a bunch of characters who went somewhere and you didn't go. You were like oh my gosh. Doctors appointments what else can i do that i can. You normally never do exactly what we did. Not go to this business park for this episode. But i ended up going back in lecture circuit because we go back to utica. That was an episode that was also written by indicating. It was crazy because the set decorators after they build a set somewhere. We have to leave. They have to break it all down but before they do. They take detailed pictures. Like just extensive photos of every nook every desk every placement of every item on the off chance that we have to go back and recreate it. And that's what they had to do with the utica branch yet. It's pretty fascinating. They have these binders the different departments and hair and makeup. Do this as well so they you know if there were people that were guest actors in the utica branch. They matched their looks but also are set. Designers would do this. And i looked through one of these binders one. Time jonah and it is so thorough. I was so impressed. Yeah just photo after photo after photo and they take all this stuff and they store it in that big warehouse that we've talked about and they label it all. It's really crazy. It was very organized. And i liked it. I liked it too. You know. I love good organization. I know you. And i know you liked angela because it involved a lot of bins bins and i love photos. I will look through any photo album. This is a little kinsey tidbit about myself. I love looking at pictures. And i don't need to know the people in them. I remember one time when we were getting married. We were looking at wedding photographers and they would send us their other albums so we could see their style. Yeah fascinating total strangers. I love it. Well i have some good follows for you on instagram. Oh yeah just random photo albums no of wedding photos. I also by the way love looking at wedding photos. People are so happy on their wedding day. it's so joyous it's joyous gender but then there's also a story like every wedding has like you know the drunk uncle are the aunt who's alone on the dance floor. It's so good. And then the way they decorate their table. You know you'll see oh look. They've got a pair of bicycles on top of their wedding cake. They must love cycling yes. They're the bicycle couple. Yeah okay we'll hit me up with some instagram's i will a you know what guys if you are interested will link to it in our stories. I'll link my favorite bridal. Instagram follows on office. Ladies pod. guys that was quite a tangent and also an example of what a phone call might be between angela. And i next up fastback number three since. We're talking about the utica branch. I actually thought this might be a good time to break down the various branches of gender mifflin because lady. I realize we've never done this. Oh we need to do it. And oh okay i have something to piggyback off this but you go first. Oh okay well. We all that. The headquarters of under mifflin is in new york. Yes but there are. Currently six active regional branches located across the united states. they are in akron. Ohio nashua new hampshire rochester syracuse. And utica which are all in new york state and scranton pennsylvania now the company used to be much larger. You might remember in the boys and girls episode. Jan mentioned there used to be a branch in pittsfield but it was closed because they tried to unionize and then in future episodes. We will learn about branches in camden and yonkers which got closed due to the economy and buffalo which was also closed buffalo. Which was the home of denise stems angeles party planning committee. Rival closes down by by denise. Oh angela martin the cell happy and in our final season we learned that there was also a branch in binghamton. So there you go. There's a great deleted scene a talking head where michael goes through the other branches and sort of like gives you a little insight on how he remembers them. It's really funny. And sam. I actually i would love for you to play it right now. Utica is news. Ville albany are tres nashua. No parking Akron is haunted. Camden is in a basement. Yonkers has a too hot girls and here in scranton. We are the cool guys. That is amazing. Yes yep he's sort of talking about the fact that like why would stanley wanna leave here. Where the cool guys. And then he lists all the other branches and just cracks me up. I loved it national. No parking made me laugh. I loved no parting to. That was my favorite lady. That's all i got well. Those are great fast facts. I can't wait to get in this episode. I have some a mini dive on the finer things club. Oh i love that. You mini dived on the finer. Things club we will be back right after a break. This episode is brought to you by better help. It's important to take care of your mental health. And if you're looking for some tips on how to do just that. Here's angela kinsey and jennifer from the office ladies podcast. I know a lot of times. Make resolutions in the new year but to make a resolution stick. Sometimes you have to examine some of the deeper issues that might keep you from reaching your goals for example you say i want to get in shape and so you get a gym membership. But you don't take the time to unpack those reasons why you continue to make unhealthy choices. Oh that's so good. Just you saying that is making me. Think why. I don't exercise right. 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That's naked wines dot com slash office ladies to save one hundred dollars off your first order. All right well we are back in. There is an establishing shot of the utica branch office. We see that it is in the mohawk valley center. It's the twenty four hundred address but it. Twenty four eighty. There's window floors of utica. Oh yeah if you need flowers. We share an office with bob vance. They have the floor shop next door. That's nice that is nice and then at point zero six seconds. Everybody there is a plant at reception utica plant at reception alert green leafy plant. It's over rolando shoulder but sitting right in front of him for everyone to enjoy is a big box of doughnuts. Yeah what the heck pam has a candy dish on her desk. Relondo has some donuts and we got a lot of male about these donuts. Angela we yes. We did clay lutherans kaley gassner zach mu tolo amber lee danny hamilton and many others said those donuts are from holland farms. Which is an awesome regional bakery in the utica area. Oh they're famous for their jelly balls and half moon or black and white cookies. Everyone was very impressed. They said we just loved. Whoever did research for this episode that they would dive this deep into utica and have this amazing prop that is phil shea fills shea regional prop alert. I wanna jelly ball. That's what she said. Maybe she doesn't want to jelly ball. So far rolandas front reception is kind of kickin pam's ass you know what i've seen doughnuts in our break room. I'm talking about front reception right now. Wow okay i'm talking a tiny tiny container of jelly beans versus a whole amazing box of donuts. We don't know that relondo put those donuts there. Anyone could have brought those in. yes he did. Rolando was played by adam. Jamal craig you guys might recognize him because he went onto dominic on ncis los angeles. I reached out to him to see if he remembered doing this episode and if he had any memories he could share and sent him this. Awesome audio clip. Oh sam will you play the clip. Yes i totally remember. You know spending limited time shooting that with you guys and it was at the time was my big break. 'cause i had done a few co-stars and that that was like that was a big deal and i just remember when i met the cast. The one of the striking things was just how tall everyone was like. You know just just generally a tall cast. That doesn't really translate onscreen but also how kind everyone was like. it was just. It was a really warm set. You know 'cause a lot of people who don't work in show business don't realize that not every set is a warm set but that's that was a very warm site like everyone was kind but man. It was a good time. And what's funny is like. I've done things since then. Not long after that. I was on a those at a series regular on his shoulder but still no one cared about that. They all were like. I heard your office like get recognized. Ninety nine percent of the time. It's from the office not anything else. And so it was definitely a privilege and joy to be a part of that production. That is so sweet you know we did have a tall cast. We've talked a little bit about it. All these guys were really tall. Yeah we had a lotta tall fellas. We really did. Adam also told me that he had not watch the whole office series until this last year. Oh ya and he was like it is so good and i said i know we're really watching it and i feel the same way. I know it was so crazy. We'll guys adam has a couple of projects he's working on now. One is called the zouk line and it's a show about this obscure dance. You do with a partner called the brazilian zouk. Oh my gosh. Yes angela if you go to his instagram. He has all of these amazing dance videos. He also has another show called the grownups which is a roundtable discussion about current events. But through the lens that everyone is trying to get along as they talk about current events. I was intrigued. Yeah you can find both projects on his instagram. at adam. j. cregg so check it out and thank you adam. Thank you well. Now we're into cairns office. I mean she looks fantastic in this whole episode. I thought rasheeda you looked gorgeous. And her office is so professional and it cuts back between karen and michael's offices and i mean come on. Mike is setting up a ferris buehler's prank. His desk is covered with like toys. Karen's desk looks like a bad ass. Boss lady yes. An adult works in canada. Toss adult workspace. It's true well. We find out in this phone. Call that karen is trying to hire someone from the scranton branch. Yes she's like. hey. I'm glad we finally connected. We'd love to have you and why who talking to well. Then we cut to michael's office and like you said he's got a dummy on his desk with this elaborate police system. Yeah this whole pulley with the dummy hand and it hits the storing sound. This is what i did so as parents thought he was home when he went and played hooky. Yeah and and michael is so elated by this. Dwight's excited stanley walks in and they're like oh stanley yes. We're gonna test this out on you and stanley just nonsense as like karen offered me more money. I'm going to utica. And he walks out. I know he also has that great line where he says. Why is you being asleep at your desk better than not being here. We had a fan question for eric. Wilson i was wondering if you actually had a pulley system or if someone off camera was moving the arm now. It was a real police system. They really built that. Yeah it really worked and it was really funny. And when the hand goes up at the end when stanley leaves that really happened. That's my favorite part. It's such a good button to the scene. I know well michael goes out into the bullpen. And he breaks the news that stanley is leaving scranton for utica. He's been offered more money. And everybody applauds. Everyone's congratulations stanley and michael. No yeah michael's totally upset. Will it two minutes twelve seconds. You'll see how they got all of us in the shot if you look over the camera whips over to accounting and we did that thing where we all kind of. Come out from our desks and at two minutes. Twelve seconds you guys can see my insane outfit which is like very fluffy blouse with the vest with the cat. Buttons and right behind me is the baby jazz poster. It's back up it's back up. Ooh is there a deleted scene. That explains this no two minutes. Twelve seconds the baby poster is there. Jazz is back. Jazz is back. And i want the folks that love the background. Also catch this moment. Two minutes seventeen seconds when michael announces that stanley's leaving villas face. She looks at him. It's so honest. And i'm telling you in my opinion philistine. No you think. Phyllis stanley would have chatted about this but the way phyllis chose to play it was like stanley yes betrayed. We'll just more like an all like look at you. Go i gotta go back and look at that. Ooh now we get into the finer things club. Oh my god. I love how you are so excited about it but did you hear that. This was my struggle you guys. There's a series of talking heads that were deleted where everyone like in the offices reacting to the finer things club and like meredith is annoyed. Angela's annoyed. I could not say and i still can't finers things finer things club you keep wanting to make it plural you say finers finer things club. I think this is a southern thing. My mom does this too. We make things plural when they're not meant to be in the we make things singular when they're not meant to be like my mom always says. Have you seen office. My daughter's on office instead of the office. And then i say finer things club anyway. I'm gonna put it in our stories. Because i found it. I could not say finers things finer finer things club danot and also you learn that angela martin has been squashing other clubs and she's really annoyed because the finer things club was not sanctioned by the party planning committee. Wow you have to get your club sanctioned. Apparently you have to get him sanctioned by the party planning committee and she has squashed other renegade groups. Meredith is so mad that she's not asked to be in the finer things club. She has her big gulp from seven. Eleven that i'm sure is full of adult beverage. Throws it on the ground. Really people are hot and bothered that. They haven't been invited. Well here's who's in the club. Pam oscar. And toby. and here's what they do in the finer things club. They celebrate books are in culture but there is no paper no plastic and no work talk aloud. Pam says in her talking head. It's very exclusive. I also love jenna that we learned that oscar does not care for gyms. Comedy doesn't care for his bits because he doesn't want him in the club now because jim does comedy bits. That really made me laugh. This is the thing. I love about our show History we don't go into it but just know that oscar has had it with jim's little bits that he does. Yeah i love everything about the finer things club. I was in a book club and we would have themed dinner spaced on the books very similar to what we see the club doing. Oh my gosh amazing. And by the way we had a fan question from jennifer. Good she said. Can you talk about how you film a montage. Like the one with the finer things club. Do you film it all at once and just change your clothes in between to make it look like different days. How does that work will. yes jennifer. that's exactly what we did. We took a whole morning and we would dress up in our little outfit and they would set up the break room for one bit and then we would film it and we'd go back to trailers and while we changed clothes they would change the set and we just did that until we had all of the different montage pieces. Yes and the rest of us got a late start day. We had late call times. Well jenna here's the finer things club reading list. A little bit about their art music selection. They are currently reading a room with a view. Which is a novel by e m forster in flashbacks. We see them reading. The house of spirits also known by its original title is la casa de la salle spiritus. It's by isabel alien day. Then they are reading memoirs of a geisha by arthur golden jenna. I did a little bit of a deep dive of the painting. They're analyzing at four minutes and four seconds. Ooh what is it. It's also one of my favorite screengrabs of you. I have ever taken okay. I might use it as my contact photo for you. Oh boy oscars pointing this painting. There's a debate. You're wearing berets. you're eating crepes. And you're throwing your hand in the air. It's just wonderful okay. So i saw on a few sites that people were like. Does anyone have any information about the painting of the finer things club. I'm gonna tell you. This painting is called monet painting in his studio boat. Eighteen seventy four by edward manny. It's amana of monet. Manet painted monet. So claude monet. An edward manet were friends. They were artists. Friends and claude monet had this boat that he would go out in and he would paint and manny painted his friend in his boat painting a picture and i have seen it on line mislabeled for example at wayfair they sell a print of this. They have titled monet painting in his studio by claude monet. So i wrote wayfair. I wrote him so you wrote them. I did i went into their comments and questions section. And i said you have this mislabeled. This monet painting in studio boat by edward nanny. I look forward to seeing packets changed. I hope it does you can go to. Www dot mana dot org to learn more about duar d- many this is a fan question from lauren. Harris davonte t maria h and nicole p wanting to know if i have read any of the books that were featured in the different clips from the finer things club. I have read. None of them were no lady. I have read a room with a view memoirs of a geisha and angeles ashes. Why how they should be in the finer things club. Wow i have to say watching this episode. I thought this is a good reading list. It this would make a good book club. Yeah the only one. I haven't read is the house of the spirits but i want to because i read a little bit about what it's about and i think it's really interesting. Should we read it together. Oh my gosh. Should we do a book club of the house of the spirits. Well i've really been reading a lot of nonfiction this past year and i am on the lookout for a great couple of fiction books. So maybe this is where i should start okay. I'm inspired will. Maybe the house of the spirits journalists start a little book club. Let's do it. Who wants to read it with us. Read it with us. Kim would be called the finer things club. Yes ours is called the finer things club in honor of angela. Because i won't ever get it right. Otherwise i like it. Well now michael has called. Karen he starts the call with philip rivers. How the hanging. Yeah way to go michael. And he tells her look. I'll give you toby. You can't take stanley take toby and then he can't even get through it. He's trying to upsell. Toby is like he's smart. He's like ah forget it toby's the worst and then he says you know what if you take stanley. I'm gonna take your best salesperson. She's like goodbye. Michael and he's like wait before you go. Can you just transfer me to your best salesperson. No and she hangs up on him. So pam connects michael with you to 'cause top salesperson and michael pitches them a job in scranton been neutered top salesperson in utica. We had a fan question about ben nugent. Angela from amanda massa jennifer neil and casey craft who is the voice of ben nugent from utica. Well guys it was our writer. Lester lewis oh oh. I didn't know that i love hearing that. Yeah and ben nugent. The character was named after mindy k. Links real life boyfriend at the time writer benjamin nugent. I remember reading. That didn't even register when i was watching this. Yeah oh my gosh. Wow that's some good little tidbits there jenna. I love how michael starts this call with him. He said hey. Do you like magic genie in a bottle. And i'm going to grant you three wishes to move to scranton to have a great job and to be my best friend cuckoo pants. I know you imagine getting a call like that. No and of course been just shuts down. He's like yeah. I heard you're the guy that hit a woman with car league. It's just not into it. And this is when michael has this talking head races. Scranton isn't lame it's cool. We're like the fund branch and that's where that extend talking head would have come where he breaks down all the branches of amazing michael dwight storm into the break room where the finer things club is setting up may have some vivaldi playing in the background. Scene is so funny. I don't know how you guys got threat but you couldn't. I saw the bloopers. You guys were losing it. Listen every time. Toby walks in and he's wearing his bow. Tie and michael reacts to him. Paul could not get through that moment. He laughed every time. Steve looked at him. It took us so long to get through that it was so funny. You guys have to watch these bloopers. He's walking in with like stacked china teacups and there is a time that steve broke which you guys know was rare but steve completely broke in one of the bloopers paul. Toby just says bow tie. It was so amazing is so good. Well anyway. the purpose of this scene was that dwight and michael foale online. Jim so michael. And dwight have this whole ruse to get jim. Go to utica with them. They tell them that. This company has lost the staples account. And they're going to go and they're gonna get it. And jim has to come with them so off they go. Yeah yeah so. they're in the car jim notices. Oh no wait. You missed the exit. And that's when dwight michael are like. We have surprised for you. Jim is immediately immediately terrified. The look unrein's face in the back seat is dwight. He can barely contain like how giddy he was that. They roped jim into this. And michael's like we're going on a panty raid. Ika my god. Oh my gosh. And gyms like no no. He gets out his cellphone. He's gonna make a phone call. But dwight grabs it and throws his phone out. The window throws is out the window. And also michael has had to be done had to be done. I one what we had a fan question from. Icy lee and emily jones when they threw gyms out the window. Did someone have to go. Pick it up behind the car. Was that a real phone okay. It was a real phone and yes we had a follow car which is a car that follows the actors and they would have to stop and pick up that phone. Yeah we had a fan catch from doug schmidt who says not a question but when dwight throws jim's phone out the window they are clearly on a four lane road but when they stopped to find it. It's only a two lane road. Look with your catch. Doug you go an another catch from. Emily umbrellas at eight minutes. Forty five seconds when they've stopped to retrieve the phone. You can see a road sign that says san fernando in a fourth of a mile. That's a really good catch. So yeah clearly in california. So they're looking for jim's phone. Jim finds it and he's like you know what i'm going to call a cab. And they're like okay. Well you'll miss out on the pranks and he's like hold up. What are you guys doing. What do you have planned. And then michael asaf. They have the warehouse. Uniforms silly string. Dwight also has some gasoline and chunks of rubber to make stink bombs or bombs. They don't know yeah could be bad us. They don't know it could be either one and jim's like yeah. No that's not happening. So he makes a deal with them that he'll dress up in the warehouse uniform by the way the one he got was matches yes and that he will go with them but no stink. Bombs are shenanigans. Yeah this is the compromise that he makes and from this talking head. It cuts to the silent moment in the car. Nine minutes forty five seconds. The three of them in the uniforms with these ridiculous mustaches. It is such a funny cut to it. Cracked me up. I have so much to say about these car scenes. But i think we should take a break and come back and really get into it. Have you ever pick in a bottle in the backseat of a car. I have not have you thought about it real serious. 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Like neum giving you a healthy life guidebook. That's exactly right. That is a great sign up for your trial today at noon and show 'em dot com slash office. Ladies learn how to eat again with neum. that's in a row m. dot com slash office. Ladies sign up for your trial today at neum and oem dot com slash office ladies. We are back and the boys are in the car. They've got their outfits on. They've got their mustaches on their driving to utica. Michael is asking. Jim a lot of questions about his break with karen and jim doesn't wanna talk about gemma's. Let's play that alphabet game that you wanna play. Yes and michael's like okay. A is for allen. And he's married to alice. They live in alaska and they sell. What are they sell they sell and then he's like wait. I what is that noise i hear. Is that water in the engine. Like what is that. Air conditioner leaking. What's that sound. Oh that soundest dwight peeing in a can in the back seat and they freak out. They're like ow. Michael starts swerving androids. Like you're making me spread the same so fun to watch. I was laughing so hard we got a lot of male about the scene one from sadie kaye. Who says when the guys were in the car did they break a lot. O- sadie the bloopers from the scene are so worth it. You've got to watch it day. Were cracking up. I mean it's one the rare times or steve could not keep it together. Steve yeah every time to rain went up to say i think i cut my penis on the lid and then this is in the deleted scenes. But it's also in the bloopers at the very end. Dwight goes. I cut a chunk out of my penis for nothing. Those guys could not get through it. They were like melting until after. I mean just imagine being in a car together. These three comedic actors at the top of their game. I mean brilliant. We had another fan question from evan. Dirksen this is a technical question. Evan wants to know who got to decide who wears which mustache because they're really perfect for each character and so funny is that a wardrobe need greg's approval. Is it profit. Well evan. I like your question because you've clearly been listening to office ladies. The mustaches are made by hair and makeup. So it's not a prop and hair and makeup work together because it's hair because it's a mustache right. Yeah then it goes on the face and has to be applied to the face so it becomes a makeup thing so they just had a tray of a bunch of different mustaches and yes they got greg's approval. They talked joss. Weeden the director. They talked to mindy kaeling. And they picked the mustaches for each of these guys to wear hair and makeup would take photos of the guys with the different mustaches. And then walk them over to the writer's room and the writers and directors would look at it. I can't imagine that is so funny to me will. Next up the finer things club meeting is underway. Yes and at ten minutes fifty seconds. We have a pam's teapot catch. Yes that's right. They are using. Pam's teapot that jim gave her in that very first christmas episode. I have a question for the finer things club. Yes how much stuff do you have to bring to work on the day that you guys meet. There is a three tiered tray of sandwiches A tablecloth flatware the teapot. The cups. how you're bringing a crate of stuff. Yeah don't worry about. It doesn't involve you gotta covered. They're discussing a room with a view. And who walks in. but andy. He wants to be in the club and pam tells them it's a closed club. She's very direct An unapologetic i'm sorry. This close club. And andy has a talking head where he says. The finer things club is the most exclusive club in the office. So it's naturally where he needs to be Party planning committee is his backup. Kevin's band is safety. Everything is like he's rushing a fraternity. It's so true it's so true. Well i'll have you know. We loved shooting scenes. Me oscar paul. We were delighted by the storyline. We had the best time because this was a group of people that did not normally get to hang out. I did not have a lot of scenes with oscar or paul so this was really cool. And i'll have you know that. Before the pandemic we had a finer things club reunion lunch. you did. I thought this was so so sweet. When you told me you guys were all gonna meet. I was like is adorable. Yeah we met. We had lunch and we invited. Ed o let ed come though. The four of us had this amazing lunch. I took a picture. So i'll post it in the pod. That is so sweet. I'm very sad. I wasn't invited on the show or in real life. Well i'll say we did not discuss literature or art at our reunion lunch. We just chatted about our lives and our kids. Oh well now. The guys have rolled up to the utica branch. But jenna i. I wanna talk to you about a deleted scene. You will not believe this scene. I had sam pull this clip. Jim has called pam from the road with michael. Dwight and pam is kind of passive aggressively given him a little shade for seeing karen. Oh i don't even remember doing this scene. I couldn't believe it. It just doesn't even sound like pam to me. And i think there's a reason it was deleted but it's pretty delicious to listen to sam. Can you play it. You're going along with this now. I have to pay them. If i'm not there so going to go to jail or die right and you wouldn't be able to talk to karen. Well i promise you that has nothing to do with it a little bit. Yeah i don't wanna see your physically harmed that's for sure because you love her. 'cause you'll ever very much okay with your girlfriend. Oh i mean jenna could help. Would you grew pam totally jealous. I don't know do you think she's really jealous. Yes pan also has a talking head where she's like. I was just kidding kid like that and then she was like okay. Maybe i'm a little. Wow i don't even remember shooting that gap. That's so crazy. You have to watch the deleted scenes that does sound a little bit like me. When i'm being passive aggressive. That was more jenna than pam. Maybe a little bit. I think it's good that they deleted it. Because i think i liken instead you know that he comes back at the end of the day and you know i don't know i don't wanna see that side of pam yeah. I just don't think we need that tension in the relationship. It doesn't need to be about that. You know yeah. I like it and we'll get to it that jim and karen are going to have a moment where they have to deal with their stuff. But i like that pam is left out of it. Yeah me too. So now the guy's roll up to the utica branch and michael reveals their plan. They're gonna pretend to be warehouse workers and they're gonna silly string the whole place. Dwight adds that he might stab the security guy in the eye with a piece of jumbo chalk and jim is like you're not stabbing anyone in the eye. It's like okay fine. maybe i'll just grind it up and blow it in is talking yet. That he says the is. Are the groin pain of the head. Yeah so look out. Eyeballs of dwight's around. I really love that. Line to dwight. And michael leave and jim is now on a walkie talkie my car well and he sees karen he's like oh my god she's here go any liens. The seat back trying to hide from karen. Yeah but in the meantime through the walkie talkie we only hear it. Which i personally think freaking funny michael into y decide to steal the industrial copier. Then you hear a very loud crashing noise and then you start to hear michael talking about his hip. Anything jim save us saying jim. This is my last moment. please tell me you'll take over the dundee's it's so so amazing engineer. You're so right. It was better over the walkie talkie. There's a deleted scene in the stairwell where is pinned by the copier and they're silly string everywhere and the security guards ofcom and it just plays funnier over the walkie talkie. It really does so. I was really glad that they made that choice. I have a fan catch for this moment. Okay when the guys were driving in the car. It was very clear that there was just michael. Jim and dwight in the backseat. But now all of a sudden we have a camera operator in the car with jim. Yeah jim is like gift down. What are you doing you know. Where did this guy come from. And also when they're on the side of the road there was clearly a camera operator on the side of the road with them. So i have made up a story in my head that the camera operators followed them in another vehicle to document this moment. They had a huge budget. They put lipstick cameras in the car rigged. The car then followed the car with a second set of hand. Held cameras this. Pbs went all out. They really did well. They knew that this was going to be a good moment. Yeah we had a fan question. From arras. Beth crews zupan girod colby shannon and carol be were jim. Dwight actually talking through walkie-talkies. Yes they were. And i don't know if this was in the bloopers angela but john was laughing so hard that what he was listening to. I remember him telling me stories. Wait until you see the scene. These guys were so funny over the walkie talkie. I loved when jim kept saying. Stop saying my name. Yes yes well. Karen spots jim in the car and she walks over so embarrassing but then it leads into this amazing scene. She's got the three of them on a couch in her office. One hundred percent looks like three kids who've been called to the principal's office Well karen his loving this. I mean there's a whole talking head where she says. I cried for weeks over that guy so yeah it felt pretty good seeing him in the situation. Yeah the only person still wearing his mustache now as dwight michael is defending his behavior. He is saying that he cares enough to fight for his employees. And if stanley comes to utica and she hurts one hair on his head he will burn utica to ground. Yeah dwight and michael both say they will burn you to get to the ground insane. So karen sends michael dwight away. She says jim. Will you stay a moment. The principal kept one. Let the other to go will now. It's going to get personal. Oh this is so kranji. She says jim. If you wanted to see me you could have just called and gyms like. Oh no i didn't wanna see you. Oh and he's like not that. I'm not happy that you know to see you. But i know i was. I was basically just here for the copier. 'cause i'm with pam and things are going well and you know we're good and she's like oh. I'm so glad to hear that things are going so well for you. Oh yeah angela. We had a fan catch for this scene from rachel watkins at seventeen minutes. Twenty seven seconds this karen. Jim are having their one on one. Karen has a photo of hillary clinton on her bookshelf. Rachel is wondering if this is a nod to leslie. Nope having framed photos of hillary clinton in her office for parks and recreation. You know what rachel. I don't know but what a great catch yeah. I didn't catch that. I zoomed in on it but speaking of parks and recreation angela. We had another fan question. A bunch of people wrote in they said. How did you get rashida jones back for this. Wasn't she on parks and recreation. At the time she was but you might remember that parks and rec was created by mike. Sure who was one of the office. Writers and so our production office just called over to their production office and they were able to clear her for one day of work so she came into this one shooting day at these offices for utica. But we didn't get to see her. We did not have a reunion with her at all because she was on location. I know i just thought. She crushed these scenes. She was so perfect. And i'm will geno. There's a whole lot happening back at denver mifflin because the finer things club is trying to have their meeting. You know they had to hang assign you have to think someone hangs a sign because events have happened right yes and no solution is a sign so they have made a sign at twelve minutes. Forty nine seconds. You can catch it. It says finer things club in progress. Please be respectful. And kevin comes in. He's trying to get something out of the vending machine he's banging back and forth his but is like right up against your chair. And my absolute favorite moment of all of the finer things club meetings is phyllis and that dang microwave. How many buttons is she hitting so many buttons so many buttons and oscar. He is so fantastic the way he lets it amp up and start to bug him as he's trying to form his thought about his book sharing rate. He wants to tell you guys about this book. Beep beep beep beep beep an finally just snaps. And he's like what are you microwaving. And phyllis says pop carn with her saint louis accent. We had a lot of people right in and catch that thirteen forty nine. You hear a solid pop carn. This is me though john. I am oscar. If you want to drive me crazy. Have some beeping somewhere. Something beeping makes me nuts. You know. I have to turn off the beeping on my washer dryer. I don't need that to keep going off. I know. I put the laundry in. Yeah i know. I'll take the laundry out eventually. I'll get to it. I don't need you alarming me to my dry laundry for the next fifteen minutes off and on. I don't get why everything has to be so much. The refrigerator beeps the dishwasher beeps. the microwave. beats my coffee maker beeps. It beeps when it's done and then it beeps when it turns itself off so much beeping. Can we tone down on the beeping appliance. People not everything needs an alarm. This is we feel strongly about clearly filled strongly about all the beeping unnecessary beeping. Who knew well the guys get back from utica michael gives stanley has blessing. He says you know what it's okay. And then. he gets him a box from the mail cart. angela. This seldomly used bail. Carta is getting used. And then he says pam. Come in my office. I need to write a one ad. And here's michael's ad that he's gonna place for a new employees to take stanley's place already. Well he's laying on the ground as he dictates this to you. I mean he has given up all hope he has failed and yes. What does he tell you wanted. Middle aged black man was sas big but bigger heart. I love that. Michael use sas. I thought the same thing and then stanley's like planned on leaving. I say crazy things. Sometimes i was just bluffing and michael called my bluff. Yeah he just wanted a raise. He was hoping to leverage this job. Offer to get more money and earlier when michael has a meeting with him. He's like what. Can i do to get you to stay. And he's like money money but michael doesn't have the budget but as it turns out stanley's not really gonna up route his family. He's gonna stay him. You know putting this out there. To michael steve michael would like meet. His demands. almost cost utica getting burned to the ground. I know pam tells. Jim i'm really sorry. Relondo told me everything. I love it that they're receptionist. Talk to one another. I love the so much that you in rolando. Have this whole friendship that we don't even know about. I also thought it was pretty great that you said jim. How embarrassing yeah. I know well. When i was chatting with adam about his time on the office one of the things he mentioned was that while he was shooting this episode rain and mindy both came up to him and said we think you could come back. We like this utica branch idea. We want to have you back. And that he was so excited. And then of course you know i go back for lecture circuit and we had a little fan catch about that. Caitlin donohue sydney matthews courtney. Sage said in this episode pam mentions that she and rolando talk but in lecture circuit. Michael introduces pam to relondo when they arrive. Is this a continuity error. You know guys. I just think michael doesn't know michael doesn't know that pam has these relationships just like remember earlier. It's clear that pay and michael's mother talk to one another as well. Oh i think there's so much that michael doesn't know about even what pam's job does you know. Like how about the fact that like he's like pam will you hold all my calls today in like sherpa bbb. Like michael doesn't know. What pam does it's true to make jim feel better. Pam invites him to be in the finer things club and the end of this episode is a flash forward to their next meeting where they are discussing angela's ashes and true jim form. He has to do a bit. Yep he's doing his irish accent on her kinda looks at him and his like. Did you get it all out. Read the oh. Paul is so amazing in the scene. Who's the main character. Jim is like angela. No no the ashes. No plan pam. Just mouths sorry well. There are two deleted. Andy scenes that. I want to discuss before. We wrap up there about the finer things club and about how desperately he was trying to get in. Because you know when pamphlet gentlemen you saw and e go. Are you kidding me right. Yeah so here. Are these two things that andy does. There is a scene. Were andy comes in to the break room to you guys and offers you an envelope full of cash a donation if you will There is a scene. Jonah in the deleted scenes and i think it would have come towards the end of the episode. You guys the finer things club. Walk up to andy you give him a sealed envelope. He opens it up. It's a letter telling him he has been put on the wait list and he is thrilled. He shared that he was waitlisted at cornell and then his dad donated a whole building to the college I see oh my gosh andy. We learned deleted scenes was in fact on the wait list. Delicious guys that was branch worse. Thank you to adam. Jamal craig for sending those audio clips and thank you guys for your questions next week. Survivor man wu. And in the meantime we will start the finer things club. And what are we reading. Our first book will be the house of the spirits ordering now lucy you guys next week. Thanks guys we'll see you next week. Hope you have a good one. Thank you for listening to office. Ladies office ladies is produced by ear wolf jenna fischer and angela kinsey our show executive produced by cody fisher our producers cassie. Jerkin are sound engineer. Is sam kiefer and our associate producer is ainsley buco. Our theme song is rubber tree by creed bratton for ad free versions of office. 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EP 25 - Alex Gintani (Owner of Gintani Automotive Repair Shop) + #BenBallerDidTheStrain, R.I.P. John Witherspoon, Nationals are World Champions

Behind The Baller Podcast with Ben Baller

1:12:20 hr | 1 year ago

EP 25 - Alex Gintani (Owner of Gintani Automotive Repair Shop) + #BenBallerDidTheStrain, R.I.P. John Witherspoon, Nationals are World Champions

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We'll see you there we will be performing his single Ben baller he has he has a song named Bam that's why I'm recording episodes right now as we speak speaking of episodes the show today I got my man Alex can tiny can tiny toons all the you know his McLaren has over a thousand horsepower with the stock motor he just hit a record a get into this whole shit so after that we got fact people keep saying I hear the word savage in like Oh this dude the savage I don't know what the definition the webster's dictionary is the savage but I know it's it's it's something way more they do get eaten his sister out going down on her that's a savage savage ars not giving a fuck savage taking shit right in the middle of restaurant say fuck this beat up bad baby catch me outside girl and it's just like I awesome man Lakers got a couple of wins a is doing his mother fucking thing as we go to the game tonight thank God I didn't fucked up and going back to basketball towns in the fucking put him in a baby boy ving rhames fucking low doubt it will watch the video when you see Carl tapped out then 'cause mom went off on fucking Joel they had to go through L. A. National had to come to go through to win the world series Johnny this shit is a great fucking interview miles Jordan uh-huh Glendale he knows some shit about cars I in a very short amount of time it's just get right into it bro how do you start working on exhausting tunes going fast playing with cars building stuff in the garage building and take my dad's car in the garage when I got out of high school went to community college for like thirty units how old are you I'm thirty five thirty five thirty five to twenty that's a two thousand four yeah it was a while ago I wanted to follow my dream you know I started a small little shop two thousand square feet shopping Canoga Park right and we've been there for it's going to be eleven years this year so was in Glendale Hollywood studio city. La I literally every day car my first car was a five sixty and I love the five sixty se so hold on what what the fuck you you had that I terrorized Carmen and that was my drift machine honestly with the V. Eight had someone WBZ which has he's at W. Honestly I'm not I don't even remember my first car was my brother's thirty six three he gave it to me basically when I turned two and four door to door storable six-speed Haman PG ace rallying back in the day we're Armenia but my parents were born in Istanbul Turkey so my dad used to seen some crypt stuck in the jungle dos crazy so hold on so so you know my boy tyler the bad Lancia integral he doesn't doesn't crazy so what's the most I see you know what I'm saying what's the most beasely car you built to date like what would it be that one that an estimate I could've sworn you had something like even crazier than that we have we have rock bottom end has got our twin turbo kit that's basically are twin turbo kit now she's pretty quick Monday people know how how first of all half mile it's all on a factory computer it's all running factory issue everything's what are you using like a fucking IBM fogging we do fucking dipped though right yeah we know about IBM isn't it. Yeah it is okay I'll just I'll and how often do you have cars come in from other shops that you had to fix their mess and shit fuck up that someone does when they bring your car with like either an exhaust or tomb like if anyone at this point now you know what I mean the majors I'm actually choosing you for a reason so you tell these mostly on the exotics like events doors and four five eighths mostly the naturally cannon put it on a car and save a Honda civic well they annihilate the back pressure on events serious five inch exhaust that was a cool thing in early two thousands the fucking holes in my header in my head is there's a whole motherfucker I mean he house Renting House in Glendale you know because I was like in the middle of building some shit and I remember land and that's how the IRS was and it was straight pipe but I know I was losing my back pressure a fast cars it didn't matter Bro I was literally I was Lewis Hamilton in that thing tuning the industry's turned into a joke in the last four years I would say tips and stuff like that from back into those guys are gone some of the older guys are stunned but now it's just all these so-called tuners now they do is they hook up to your car read it out off to this guy and get a server file and stick in your car ninety percent of these people you're each each listen I've seen five events doors two eric tune in something when you have no I'm being you know it's crazy right like some people say oh you I just know how to drive the car and car is smashing on Tunji tr's he's on San Fernando road I'm like what the fuck is going on here and he's like you'll bras embarrassing you whatever so what I'm getting at is these tunes that these people are sending those basic shit in the world has taken off when I brought you the f. f. what happened what was like on the thing and we hate we hate looking at other people it's not something I do I'm totally against hey look at other people's changes it in the car freaks out I mean in your F- f- it was so crazy to a point where yes the same car you're basically so it had it had basically the same tune from the same guy and it's reverse yeah it's just it's just crazy man it's just so that's why should have had a lot of grease everybody GAM so I mean but but you've fixed tunes often right yeah we do in sucks sometimes F F let's say as example that you've tuned you don't have the original versions so what you gotTa do is go in is what they've done and then go and return it again which takes a ridiculous amount of time and the wasted time you know but yes it's a pain and NASA clean up other people's stuff but always a good thing so what about the cars have the flex capacitors and all those crazy Abu this is the one that always gives me get the best gains out of it in general the mclarens but I remember when I started realizing that McLaren fucked up entrepot on the car and I was like you know what though the car is beautiful you look at that car there's no way you can ever told lighten here right you'd be like okay so dangerous Combo to have that much power in that light right because gt three R I said Yoga there's going to be a problem they never really put any crazy numbers they didn't promote the way they made a bunch some whatever ah starting to realize they might start realizing it in the GT three s racing that day and a nine one eight pulled up on me and we were getting nasty like nasty bro just aren't go I had a downshift third go back and forth Max out by that time if you feel little you know little lightness scary I mean my my my buddy's got one and uh-huh Kil Nam honestly tell you the truth now that and there's a lot of other things too because also I'm not like okay now I got my car God bless them because realistically that's like probably I mean I mean a you dude he's eager Mambros ugly situation do you know what I mean it's scary and I'd SV a lot of updates there was a shitload of stuff card in for almost two years you know it got update this car is a fucking animal and I was like well did you fuck up the car no he needs to follow me on social media is is different it's podcasts archived I'm they hold on you're the head summit house if it had been you know that little short do that we know like they saw that they're just like oh I can't get into this but he can so the cars in all time favorite all time favorite crib Akari now whatever ship forty probably got to be one of my favorite holiday come on Bro I'm sorry do that car that Carlos one of the courage and right now so you can see there's a reason I say that okay what's the reason the reason is in tiny said eggs X. Shit man it's crazy company makes the best mortgage you'd think production company at like the Lambo Lamborghini the really though he fucking Kenya mortar an amazing really yeah I mean you could throw eight the ten pounds of boost that if even even for a Lamborghini did is this if just like everybody and I own fucking three three right now slow you could be in first gear in that motherfucker not going anywhere but then when it does kick in Bro it's like up when it warms up on Medicare driving but I did notice in fourteen to change the transmission I wonder what the funny thing is amazing who fucking door that's have a dual clutch like bro what Kinda is not going to have a dual clutch but I think it's going to have the like Bro in two thousand seven for I introduced a dual clutch into that four thirty and it just changed everything always close left you have seventy six percent thirty six percent and you got these fuckers in they're riding the clutch at first or whatever you know what I mean it just didn't want to get out of a driveway doing whatever cycle for damn near you know thirty something years I was a beast riding a motorcycle understand real shit tell me riding a bike understanding it every single this is the time I'm going to crash scotch fights never going to be your fault a khaki run one hundred sixty miles per hour is one goal post to another goalposts not the hundred yard don lost his mind I give up but you understand like people who use the fucking transmission in downshift so you're fucking transmission up the rear tires you're done I saw do that we know and you've tunes cars or anything else flounder breaks on fifth year olds like Bro Dog we're GonNa die like I don't start rubbing and then he would just shit I'm like April you'd want to drive a car do you feel no math methanol one thing ethanol is another explain explain we mostly we we never tuned from channel we use methanol for cooling the intake and all we never tuned for methanol because if you're methanol stops working in the car is you know you know dedicated to aw based fuel the best part about like fucking corn corn like corn thirteen dollars a gallon for vp one ten race guess the DP race gas all in sixty cents it's one hundred ten engine octane and the best part about it is is eight hundred ninety five degrees Celsius okay now going on that same poll the oxygen content is amazing but can you drive can use at the daily driver are ninety one is so bad that I usually tell a lot of customers to mix in like four or five gallons of over to place their opening up gas stations left and right right now the only thing with ethanol is you eight percent thirty percent more fuel to run ethanol off the bat so run the car so your fuel system has to be able to you know support that if it doesn't then obviously I mean people people don't get this Thirty five battled driver that especially drivers driving fifty cent driving like all the celebrities and Shit we pull over to an elite was like twenty seven cents. I'm thinking like Yo Bro this is a fucking dollar in something on the East Coast over here it has a million times better gas I mean when I was in Pittsburgh when I was in when I was in Philly hip but they all the pumps and should everything to while like I said because you told me I remember I I remember pulling out this was no joke I started the call her literally lighten up in Third Yeltsin what the fuck is going on here you have man he just knew that that that one hundred and then the car could give it all the timing at once and you just made another forty fifty wheel like actress in the it felt like a fifty shot though felt like back in the day but it felt like that because appeared so like once well if I drove the drive the seven twenty very much I mean I think I sold car anyways coach Dickhead but probably every hundred miles I would feel like you know will and don't do that to me I hate turbos even they toil sounds like a goddamn formula that sound bill and we just finished our full Harwich was a complete shocker and crazy parties at eight even like a it's like a it's insane if mark was crazy it was really bad yeah the car could have gone a lot faster I was an idiot of the tire you know what I mean on the car so we went with the N. thirty five in the front don't thirty it's the same with my GTC No it's a thirty five on the fucking cash so that that's the goal with this one network building fucking insane so we're supposed honestly the quickest tire we could have found for the car was anti oh five or drag radio which was I'm amazing it's a different feeling this man naturally aspirated cars you can't compare listen to it doc I mean it could be you could talk about F- four thirty you could talk about there's nothing does your lucile sound come on that sounds good but it's it sounds really good and those car especially ema three sixty it's just like a different type it's just it was so much that fucking blue I hate that you also Yasser hit the book uh I mean at the end of the day man I like power sign turbos no of course because your your specialists in turbos been around since Oh four I've gone through stuff we've been through ups and downs of had a couple of partners work really hard to get to where we are now and I got a really good team behind me and we're just five lifts we have five lifts and then we got Dino we've got the all wheel drive dino the I'm with other people before broke keep it if I don't start trying to don't try to fuck an open we had some projects that I shouldn't have taken it with a mistake that I made everybody makes mistakes in the business so you know schedule schedule people in and only couple projects a year and I think that you may a New York they always had the Ho- the hoist to lift yes you could park more cars or anything else well we're building another dining record on seven twenty for the for the half mile Yeah we we broke the world record for one eighty six point seven eight but the thing is the car had a lot more in it we got kicked out whoa sector I was it's Coalinga it's like Probably like thirty basketball one of my teammates for San Francisco State Houston coaling fuck this part is it like what's the majority of the people there you don't really see a lot of people there so yeah sector's awesome man there's no what's the majority like what like what's the majority race they're like as far as the city everything come on man are you serious yeah there was even a Korean there brought like twenty five hundred or three thousand dollars power on perform aunty and around yeah I mean you don't you don't you don't launch it over there he you just you just roll out of it and the top dogs man you know we do stuff has done a twin turbo of entering it what was the fastest quarter-mile at shifter's ones you when you went to known Oklahoma Half ask you think they've got to go on for the quarter Shit Bro that cars no joke seven seconds aw that's like no bullshit has like dunking from the other side of the other that's how silly seven seconds that's the most two hundred eighty miles per hour in a in up but shut the fuck yeah wh- like where are they from though I should I forgot to be honest other car has did it like two hundred sixty miles per hour and a half mile it's insanity matt it is but to be honest with you beamers fucking hey listen fuck this shit again I've had some when you know I didn't even think you'd get that kind of likes seven you know what I'm saying like I actually had that car twenty years of the nineties and think about it my car Oh this to really had a period correct car anyways going on it's funny you said BMW yeah what were you doing about a C. Sixty three for should we we went on and drive with the with the jam boys platinum in this little shitty like NC sixty three next to these guys they're flying up the four or Jack when he's full throttle on the ventilator waived him like what's up buddy like one sixty bluest doors off you know what I did notice too I mean I know BMW has a tube but as far as like Ben's US The

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"Eat Your Beans" Demo

Eat Your Beans

05:49 min | 4 months ago

"Eat Your Beans" Demo

"What's rattling in that jar. You're holding their probably. You mean this guy. In my hands. I hold the star. Today's program were honoring the amazingly bertha towel bean or on today show cuba and trial. You're listening to eat your beans podcasts. Where we're digging into mexican food history. Every week join hosts melody and beverly seto as trace the origins and cultural significance of key foods integral to mexican cuisine. Grandpa veteran here on the ear being podcast. We believe that food is about the experience and that it often triggers memory. Well this week we went out looking for folks to ask them. How do you like your beans. And this is what they had to share without. My name is diane from canoga park california. The reason that are like beings is because he can have them for breakfast lunch dinner or as an appetizer. They're also healthy. They are high on fiber protein. Iron and my favorite beans black beans pinto beans and my favorite dish would be in for the whole last which is like an in chica except instead of the sauce of rhetoric green. It's actually made a beans. So yes that's why. I love beans. Manning's anthony h. Thirty seven from reseda california. And i like beans. I like The hoya traditional. But i do dig when they're refried especially sour cream. They're young my name. Is ebony trinidad. And i'm twenty four for north hollywood and i like my beans on referred because it tastes like these really delicious and i of like my being on in whole because way the my mom makes them all she also mix it with all with rice. Soon was a solid dorian thing. Were there too when you went to big with recipes together. Wealth into the podcast. I'm -nology in arts and culture journalist who loves mexican food and i love it equally. I'm beverley. I had a brief stint found. That had rather eat than prepare most things and of course. We're not alone in sharing an appreciation for mexican food mexican food. What are the most geographically. Diverse cuisines in the world is popular around the globe. Where datta caning an entire podcast to this delicious fair because it's yummy flavors warrant it so we're kicking things off. Focusing the first episode on the humble bean bean bountiful in mexico interest people ingredient within countless dishes. Beverly how do you like your beans. How do you like to eat beans. We'll i'm a raw vegan cook food. You don't eat refried. Beans are big beans. Ravi gins have a few options of eating sprouted beans or robbing sprouts folk beans or dehydrated. Ones those bland an awful. I'm so sorry for you. They're actually really nutritious. I just tv trivia time. We're going to begin. Every podcast with a trivia section in common perception the beans contribute to gaffey penis. Oh wow whereas with that okay okay. So the question is what component of beans if responsible for causing gas in those who consume them. Eight iron being sugar on hybrid. Thank you for joining us on the ear beans. Podcast come back next week for much more.

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Bryan Cranston - 'Your Honor'

Awards Chatter

1:13:59 hr | 3 months ago

Bryan Cranston - 'Your Honor'

"Hi everyone and thank you for tuning into the three hundred. Eighty four. th episode of awards chatter the hollywood reporter's awards podcast host. Scott feinberg and my guest. Today is one of the most admired stage and screen actors of his generation. He won best actor in a play. Tony awards for his work. On the broadway shows all the way in two thousand fourteen and network in two thousand nine hundred and he received a best actor oscar nomination for his turn in two thousand fifteen trumbull while also stealing scenes in films like one thousand nine hundred eighty s saving private ryan two thousand six little miss sunshine. Two thousand eleven drive two thousand twelve argo and two thousand seventeen. The upside but he is best known for his work on television. Having excelled in comedy series most famously as the hapless father hell on fox's malcolm in the middle from two thousand through two thousand six for which he received three best supporting actor in a comedy series emmy nominations in drama series giving one of the all-time great tv performances as science teacher turned drug kingpin. Walter white on. Amc's breaking bad from two thousand eight through two thousand thirteen for which he received. Six best actor in a drama series emmy nominations four of which resulted in wins and most recently in limited series winning raves for his portrayal of judge whose son is involved in a hit and run accident that results in the death of the son of a local mob boss in one of two thousand twenty s most watched and acclaimed limited series. Showtimes your honor. I'm talking of course about the great bryan cranston over the course of our conversation. The sixty five year old and i discussed his difficult childhood and how he almost became a policeman instead of an actor. His many years of commercial. Work and guest spots most famously. As dr tim wassily on seinfeld before he became famous at the age of forty three the series of happy accidents. That led to vince gilligan. Casting him on breaking bad and to that shows phenomenal success. What it was like to return to tv seven years after breaking bad went off the air and to work in the limited series format with your honor plus much more and so without further ado. Let's go to that conversation. Brian thank you so much for doing the cast. I've wanted to get you out for a long time. So it's a treat to have you. And i guess first of all how are you doing. I know you've you're one of the people that's actually had co that right. Yes seems like old news now because it was march of last year. Right at the very beginning is when my wife. And i contracted it and we're very lucky at the time some aches and pains for a couple of days and just tremendous exhaustion for a week and that was about it except that i did lose my sense of taste and smell for many many months. And it's come back to about. I would say about seventy five percent. Well got your overall well anyway on this podcast we really do. Go back to the beginning of the major moments through a life and career. So i want to start at the most obvious place. Can you just share for listeners. Pretty much where were you. Where were you born and raised. And what did your parents do for a living i. I was Born in hollywood and raised in the senate san fernando valley in canoga park for the most part. My parents were actors. They met in an acting class. Probably nineteen forty eight and had the typical kind of actors life. They were all in a big apartment building and apparently when one person got a job. That person bought dinner that night for everybody and just kind of cooperative kind of experience and is very romantic when you think of that just starting out your career and they were all so young and excited and of course then that gets beaten out of you over your was a savvy. Read that basically you know you remember a time when your dad was getting a good amount of work but then that stopped right. Yeah my dad was a really pretty darn good actor and my mom was as well. We just saw betty white had a show called life with elizabeth and they played the neighbor the neighbors and they were in several episodes of her show and they were odd. Little fifteen minute episodes and little dilemma. Little problem. that that betty white overcomes by the end of it in her kind of daft way but So they had. They had a career in in the sense that they were working actors. Did radio shows and television shows and a movie here and there and and and that. What's the typical actors life in the ups and downs. And unfortunately though my father from all accounts really had his sights set on becoming a star whatever that means and when he was forty or so and he wasn't a star. He hit the kind of an obvious in cliche midlife crisis and couldn't handle it and it fractured the family. And he went off indiana fair and he married. Another woman and just disrupted everything. And i didn't see my father for about eleven years and did that a did that. I guess the the fact that you had seen how acting could impact person if it didn't if the dreams don't pan out Did that deter you in any way. I guess i'd read that deter you in the sense of pursuing it yourself. I read some fun stuff that you were you know. I think he had directed you in something at one point before he he left in a and that you were separately i think in in some school productions including one that you have a funny story that the time machine but i guess i just wonder was it. Was it something where you're saying. I want to grow up and do what my parents do. Or you're just thinking in terms of other. Though you know is too young to be able to recognize that. I wanted to be a baseball player. And there's only one thing that held me back from being coming a professional baseball player nuts talent otherwise i'd have been great but it didn't. It didn't appear to me to be a pathway for me the time and and then you know the cautionary tale of my my parents woes in show business was probably in the back of my mind. I don't think it was a conscious level. And i just you know. Well i'm gonna do something else and back when i was a kid. There were career days and everybody would come into the school gym. It would be everybody representing the military representing the fire department. The police department gas company. It was basically around to high schools where kids were probably not going to go to college. And you know it's time to think about your future and for some reason. My brother gravitated to the police department and he joined a police explorer group which was sixteen year olds. We had to go to the lapd academy every saturday for eight eight weeks and you train kind of like a junior police program. I don't know exactly why he did that but he did. He's two years older than me. The first year that he was in the group went to hawaii. And i thought oh man. I'm a poor kid from the valley. We didn't have any money. My when my parents split up there was nothing we got kicked out of our our house. For closure i mean i my brother and i had to go live with our grandparents for a year. I mean it was. In retrospect it was more dire than i realized at the time so he was involved in this group and he found a community he found a group of young guys that he related to and i think also he gravitated to it again retrospectively because of the policemen being father figures in a masculine father figure since our father was not around i think he was maybe subliminally looking for that kind of influence and the second year he was in there. Now i'm fifteen. He's seventeen. They go to japan as a group and i thought oh. This is unbelievable. So he's traveling he's going everywhere and it was very inexpensive a few hundred dollars for the whole trip three weeks in japan and i thought okay. This is it as soon as i'm sixteen. I'm joining this group. So i can travel. So that was my impetus to join. the police. explorers was so that i can get away from canoga park and travel and sure enough sick. I joined and i graduated first in my class. Out of one hundred eleven sixteen year olds all around the city of los angeles. I graduated i. And i i kind of hit me over the head with. Oh will i guess. This is what i should do. I have an aptitude in. I didn't even know it. So okay. I guess i'll do that and seemed to make sense and sure enough. That first year. I was in. The group went to europe for four weeks. Five weeks something. Some long long trip. Sixteen years old. And i'm in europe. I mean how many sixteen year olds especially poor kids. Get to be able to say that. So there were a lot of signs pointing me toward that direction. So i graduated from high school and say okay. This is my path way. I'm going to go do this. And i get into an acting class in junior college. I'm going to go to junior college. Then go to ucla administration of justice course and then go into the lapd. When i'm twenty one. Perfect timing graduating you know. And every step of the way if you have a bachelor of science degree your your pay levels are higher in every step of the way and you have more favorable reviews in advancement so it seemed to be the best choice second year in college. My counselor says you gotta take some creative You know elective courses. You're only taking your major. And i didn't know how to do this. And so all okay and acting was on on the board of analog in those days just you know letters that are put up on a wall and i did some acting and so i get into this acting class and this black box theater just for fun and i get to do this scene with this really beautiful girl others seventeen or eighteen year old nineteen year old and our job is to kiss each other make out and i was blown away thinking. This is what i've been trying to do anyway. And now this is my job in his. Alas is to believably make out with his girlfriend. She was all over me. And i thought august i mean i mean all over me and we did the scene and i asked her out at the break and she said no boyfriend and i was stunned. 'cause i know she was really kissing me sheep now so my head was bidding than nineteen years old in a classroom and all age. I'm kissing this really pretty girl as my work so that was spinning my head around. The second thing was this girl did not particularly like me. She was doing her job. She was acting and i thought. Oh my god i would have bet any amount of money that she liked me and i so i'm dizzy. I had to sit down and try to figure things out. And and that's when i realized i don't know what i wanna do. I don't know that. I i want to become a policeman. I don't know what i wanna do. So in a way. I ran away. My brother was kind of in the same position and we had motorcycles at the time and we hopped on our motorcycles and we left the state of california for two years just to see what was what was to. The plan was sort of just on the road. Go out and see what scott. I think if by using the term. What was the plan very very loose. I think it was. It was two young boys running away from from home. I really think it was. And i didn't know it at the time. But what i realized again. In retrospect i learned a lot of things after the fact is that. I think i was truly trying to allow myself to get lost. So that's somehow. I can be found so somehow i can find what felt true an honest as far as a pathway for myself and i think it took two years on the road To be able to shake what. I knew in in my hometown and what my other friends were become on. What are you doing. we're we're about to become policeman and yeah so confusion self-doubt insecurities. I was full of all of that. And i think really just shedding that was necessary in order to figure out. What's at the core of what i'm really feeling and thinking and the really actually was sounds like sort of Where if talked about this sort of rainstorm. That not out. Then maybe you're maybe you go back to the policemen right. Guess i travelling on the road on a motorcycle. And at the time i left california only had one hundred seventeen dollars in my pocket. No credit cards just two hundred kid. Hundred seventeen bucks so obviously. That didn't go far. My brother and i had to stop several times to work in a restaurant or coffee shop. Or we worked in carnivals. We'd we'd see a carnival and we pull over and we you can always find a job. And this is the nineteen seventies. When there wasn't a lot of paperwork you know you didn't have to fill out papers to get a job you just said. Do you need help and you go to a drive down a city and you look for a restaurant. That's really packed and you park your motorcycle. You go in you ask for the manager you go. Hey we've worked in restaurants before you look like you're swamped you want us to bus tables. Yes put an apron on go bus tables of and they would give us twenty bucks and they'd feed us and it was enough to to sustain us for another two weeks basic almost in So but the actual thing that solidified for you. That acting was the course. She wanted to pursue what had happened. Is that that that experience in that acting class in california created a desire to do more and we ended up in daytona beach. Florida where our cousins live. A large family called the tafs and Great bunch of people love them dearly in and they let us in and and we slept on their floor for a month or two or whatever and then we got jobs and because it was cold in on a motorcycle then now it's you know late fall into winter so stay in florida work and we got jobs and i had a job at the poolside selling suntan lotion and things. So i had my nights free. So i went over to the daytona playhouse and i just walked in and i said i'm free at night. Do you need any help backstage or something. And this man who i later learned out was. The director of the current player was about mounting. It said have you ever acted before. And i said i got good. You're in this play. that's all i said. Wait what he goes. You're the crawl home in the king. And i and i thought what is that and away goes and i'm now in this play and so i did one play and then i was asked to produce in this small town community theater. I was asked to produce the next play. And so i did. And then the director was fired during that time. So i had to finish directing it and i'm just i'm barely scratching the service of understanding dramaturgical ideas and the concepts and thing i just i was. I was so raw but i did it because we i needed to. And so once spring happened again i might brother and i took off up north and did are traveling. Meant more people and and we're on. The blue ridge parkway in virginia gorgeous drive off so long and beautiful beautiful drive. Unless it's a foggy raining and on this particular day it was because deep fog. Couldn't see fifteen feet in front of you and rainy and if you're on a motorcycle before. Gps you're in trouble because you'd have to pull out your map and you don't know exactly where you are wednesday. Where's the next town. It's confusing and it's dangerous so There was a a rest stop that was marked and we saw that we went down. It was one of those that it traverses down into a low level next to a creek and there was a a cement slab and four posts and a roof and a picnic table on this slab and we put our motorcycles up onto the slab because of the rain and we thought well looks like we may have to stay here because we don't know exactly how far we are to the next town. Okay so we pitched our tents and got our little camping gear out and made our top rahman meal that night. Our post them and whatever sanca. We were drinking hot chocolate. You know that we got in the restaurants that we worked in things and how we spend the night well. It actually never stopped raining and we spent five nights there and we were the only people we saw for the five nights and we got to play gin rummy. So many games and we did our pushups and we're reading and it was one. I was able to bring a book of plays on on the motorcycle. And i was reading hedda gabler and it was late afternoon is well crack this book and so i started reading hedda gabler and then i get isis. Read it straight through and then it got to the very end. And i realized i had a crick in my neck and why is because i was leaning all the way over toward a sodium light which was the only light that was illuminating this area. This picnic area. And and i looked up and it was night and i when i started that book it was day and now it's night and blew me away that i missed the transition from data nine. I'm normally if you've been exhausted and you go. I got a. I got to sleep in the afternoon. You know you're going to miss the transition. But i'm awake and i'm reading a book and i never saw the transition from dayton and i thought what could make a person do that and i thought the transformative power of storytelling. I thought i was in awe of that in a little intimidated. But i sat there for a moment looking out at the rain and i thought okay. I'm going to do this. I'm going to attempt to be do something that i'm falling in love with and hopefully become good at as opposed to something. I was good at police work. But i was not in love with so that was my credo and i took that with me and i thought okay. It's a big roll of the dice but here it goes so you guys wind up back in la. Right and i remember from interviewing the first time years ago that you i think dabbled with a lot of different acting teachers and classes in different styles. But you know pretty quickly. It seems like you were working regularly. I think exclusively acting from usa twenty four twenty five Maybe not in stuff that was going to set the world on fire but commercials that were that which pay nicely and guest spots on chose just to mention a few for people matlock murder. She wrote baywatch. This there was there. Were a all the great ones. Well you were. You were working and so i guess i just wonder you know there are so many actors who spend their lifetime hoping to just consistently land work. Why do you think you were doing what you were getting work Either in commercials or shows right off the bat and then also if things that continued at that level forever would you have been content. Or what were you now. Sort of in the vein of your father hoping for bigger things. The simple answer is that. I had a different frame of mind. The cautionary tale of my father was certainly there and You know when. I went away when we got win. Lost our home. When i was a boy i was eleven years old and we lived with our grandparents. My grandparents are both german immigrants and just hard working blue collar out. Tough as nails. And i really through my mother and through my grandparents learned a strong work ethic and part of that is the lack of entitlement that you are do anything. I'm not doing anything to this day. I'm not do anything. You still have to earn your keep an eye. Take that and i wrap my arms around that philosophy of the hard-working blue-collar immigrant ideal and so my goal in starting my acting career was not to become a star. It's never been about become a star. It was about if i can just keep improving and earn a living. That was my goal. If i can just earn a living if i can say that the only thing i do to pay for my bills is act. That's my achievement. That happened when i was twenty five years old and that is still my proudest achievement. Professionally is that at that time i crossed the threshold. I started when i was professionally. When i was twenty. Three anna took two years which is short period of time and You know and a little odd jobs to supplement before them but at twenty five. I worked enough in the industry to be able to say. Oh i'm a working actor. I this is what i do for my living and and that's i would have been completely fine because it's the the joy of acting and i try to teach this to young actors now in high school and college. Is you have to enjoy the process. There's not a destination if if you're withholding your enjoyment before you reach a certain destination you are setting yourself up to fail to be unhappy. The process is the joy and wherever that may bring you and to to detach yourself from an outcome but still works incredibly hard to get there which is a seems contradictory but the truth is is that. It's it's all process when you're in an acting class. It's the process that gets you through fast forward years and years and years later after breaking bad. I'm in boston about to amount all the way. We're playing lyndon johnson and a three hour play. I'm on for all too short scenes and massive amounts of dialogue to memorize. And i made the mistake of going to boston without memorizing any of it i was doing all this research on the character and i was in loving it and i just made the logistical mistake of not focusing on cracking. Some of that labored intense part of the job. And i panicked. I was i was i was like. Oh my god. I've made a huge mistake. I'm troubled. I'm i it was. It was a problem. And i had to work my way through it. I put that in my book at the end. Because i wanted young actors to read that. Here's a guy now in his sixties whose panicking about being able to perform so that they read it and go. Oh so. I'm not alone. So when i'm nervous an apprehensive about taking on something worried. If that character will ever come inside it happens. It happens to everybody and so two way of kind of philosophically putting my arm around them and figuratively giving them a hug. And saying it's okay. Just keep working. Which i did. Just keep working. Keep working and trust the process is which is my roundabout way to say. It's all about process. And now it's a great answer and i think we do have a lot of aspiring actors who listeners. I think they'll find that very valuable and in terms of the fact you know that your profile obviously did grow even if that wasn't the objective. Let's just maybe not a couple of steps along the way i think in the nineties. It didn't hurt to beyond the get this recurring part on the biggest show going. I believe seinfeld as as the Tim wiley Then that was i guess. Between ninety four ninety seven ninety eight seems like movies are reaching a different level where we are with spielberg hanks and saving private ryan. That's a big deal number of things like this. But i think just to put a marker in something that will. I think we'll have to come back to in a bit. Can you just share how you wound up. The the there were several things that had to happen. Just by fate for you to wind up as the guest star. A guy a basically bad guy in anti-semites But with who. People can still sympathize empathize with on a single episode of the x files. That happened to be written by vince. Gilligan the date just so people know how much ahead of breaking bad this was. This is november fifteenth ninety eight when it aired and they almost didn't happen. I mean if that this is another. I think lesson for actors probably write that one one slight little change of plans in the thing that you were in your schedule would have changed. Everything there are. There are four things that an actor needs to have a successful career. One is talent. And i say that i am talented. And if i were to ask other actors are you talented. I want them to say yes not in a boastful way. Not pounding their chest. Look at me quiet confidence. A quiet confident way of saying yes. I belong here. This is my home in the world of of acting in creativity. So that's one you need to have that talent. You also need to have patience coupled with perseverance. You need to just keep pushing forward. Keep moving the train forward. Keep moving forward but again like i said you move it forward with with alacrity and joy. And and maybe even competitiveness. Or whatever motivates you but without having an attachment on. I should have got that job. I should have achieved certain things by now. I should forget the i should have. That's the patient part. Keep working forward. Be patient keep working forward. Be patient in the last component to having a successful career scott. I know you know what i'm going to say is luck. You need luck. There's no career absolutely believe this. There's no career in hollywood that is made without a healthy dose of luck. Now win is luck going to come. Well everybody wanted to be right here right now. But that's not the way luck work works i it it it has its own timing and it's unknown to everyone else so you just have to wait for. It have happened when it happens. And take advantage of the luck that you're referring to was certainly there one of the things i did. I i wrote a a movie called last chance that i wrote for my wife has a present and when she opened up the script the as a present she said. Oh my god. I can't and read it and she said when are we going to make it and i thought oh i thought i was just giving So that was in the back of my mind. Took me several years to wrap my head around the idea of the the the courage and the audacity to go out and make your own film. And i shot this on thirty five millimeter film today. I young actors and writers. You should be able to go out there and do it on your iphone or whatever. I'm just keep creating. But i made this film and i kept delaying it because i was trying to raise three hundred thousand dollars to make it. That's how much made the film for three hundred thousand dollars and it's a good film. I'm proud of it. It's a better story than it is a structurally and how it came out. Technically because we have eighteen days to shoot it we had to go just maybe two takes per and just keep pushing keep pushing to get it done for that amount of money last chance and so i kept pushing it because i kept someone's i can give you five thousand and then they drop out and i can't. I lost my job of trying. And then we had an actor to do a certain role and then he had to go away to a paying job and even though we were under a contract. So i finally said i gotta do it. I just have to do it. I could keep delaying it week after week after week after week and it may not ever happen so we're just going to do it on these dates and i stuck to that and hope that money would somehow find his way in and it did four days after i returned to los angeles. I'm i'm starting the editing process. Four days and i get a call from my agent says i know you just got back into town but i don and there's an audition if you want to go and go while you know what i if i can get a job. That would be fantastic. 'cause i am broke all i had a wife and a little baby and we're in trouble. We have a little house with very modest. Little thing. And i said okay. It's for x. files and so i. i happened to look the part. I had this nasty fu manchu moustache shops. And kind of scraggly dirty hair. I look the part of that character. I forget the characters name anyway. The it was just by luck that i went out. I auditioned i went back to editing. I got the call. I got the job i go to work and i and i meet this guy named vince gilligan. Who wrote it. And he's producing them also and we had a great time and and i realized that this is really good. Writing he really did a wonderful job in a nutshell. He put his central character in an in an an emotional Dilemma by making my character. The guest star anti semite in a bigot in a horrible despicable. Human being it would have it changed the dynamic in many other cases you would have written my character as a nice guy so that moulder david duchovny would want to save me. Oh and the audience will go. Oh he's such a nice guy. we should save him. Come on david to company. Say oh he did. Oh good okay. That's nice and that's the way a lot of shows would have been written but vince gilligan. Wrote my character to be awful and what by doing that. It put the emotional and ethical dilemma in the center of his main character. Do i save this man simply. Because he's a human being. I would love nothing more than a than let him die. But i can't and it. It spoke to his character and his morality. And that's it's beautiful. It's beautiful beautiful. Writing i did. It was fine goodbye. I go off and i do malcolm in the middle for seven years and i was a game changer. Amy and that was in. Its own way right. That was new height for you. Actually yeah huge. It was it. Was i and done some series before that and they never lasted. They'd get three five six airings and they get cancelled. And you know it's just so. I was banging on the door of some kind of regularity in in my work. And and and and certainly malcolm in the middle prove that in such a beautifully written show and wonderful great memories from that at the end of seven years. We were supposed to pick up an eighth year. Fox said keep the sets up. Don't take them down. Keep him up because we might pick it up. And we're all our fingers crossed. Hopefully we can do an eighth season of malcolm in the middle. We get the call at the end of april. No you know what we're gonna let the show go. We had a great pilot. Season says fox. And so thank you but you can take the sets down now and appreciate all you know all the things that oh no. Because he'd never know you'll ever even get anything like that again right. that's right. Yeah and you wanna hold onto it when you have something so good. And that was in april of two thousand six. I did play the geffen theater with jason alexander who i met and became friends with from seinfeld and he directed and then near the end of that it was beginning of fall. And i get this call from my agents. Remember man named vince. Gilligan and i said no and she said he wrote and produced the episode of x. Files that you were in an all we. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah and well. Anyway he wrote a pilot named breaking bad. And i go. What does that mean sales. I don't know but it's really good. You should read it and he wants to meet with you. I said okay. So i read it and it blew me away again that little sampling that i had from x. files was filtered all the way through this grip. He's just just down a damn near genius. And i thought oh my god. This is so good so good. A twenty minutes scheduled meeting turned into an hour and a half and he and i clicked again. I came in loaded for bear. I i was confident. I i told him how i thought walter. White should look and how should be overweight. And these should be pasty in. These should have a moustache that that looks like. It needs to either grow at her shave. It do one of the to come on. He's just lost. He was invisible to himself in society. And that's where he starts and then he told me as well. I wanna make this character. Go from scarface. I just see if i can do it. They're not gonna let me do it. He's he's and. I thought you're attempting to do something. That's never been done in the history of television to change a character from one to the other and hasn't been done. I was so excited. And i got it and it was all because vince gilligan was my champion to get it and again luck so i was lucky that i finish that movie. I was back in town. Four days i could have easily have pushed that movie again and not been in town and someone else would have been doing that character and someone else would have been walter white so those are the things that happened now. There's one more bit of luck that happened. So we do the pilot in february and march of two thousand seven. Well think again had malcolm in the middle picked up. Its eighth thirty eighth year eighth season which we all hoped would happen. I would have been working on malcolm in the middle until the end of march in. Oh seven and would not have been available for this pilot so once again when you think something looks bad on initially or on the surface it may turn out to be the best move in your career and as i say that because i want actors and writers and directors who are starting their careers to just keep faith know that. It's all about the love of the process. Keep moving forward. Have your patients but keep moving forward and have the faith and luck will shine. Its light on you. It's incredible sorry. I just want to in case there's anyone listening who's been living under a rock this century just so that they know the the differences between these two that you really are most associated with probably so how come in the middle this very hapless father of these boys. It's a comedy with. Yeah there's always some drama but it's a comedy now you go from that again. That's two thousand to two thousand six to breaking bad which is two thousand. Two thousand welterweight. Science teacher turned drug kingpin in a drama with plenty of comedy. But it's the emphasis has elsewhere. So i there are people out there. I'm sure you know who don't even realize to this day that it's the same actor that did these two parts right. I guess i don't that anyone really knows me. When when i introduced myself i use both my first and last name because i don't want to assume someone knows who i am. I don't feel that. I what i love is that actors have told me. They've gotten in for auditions on the opposite side of what they're known for because my name was used they said well no. He's a drama guy. We don't want to have. Well tell that to bryan cranston. you know. we'll see what happens. Okay let them come in then and it gives gives them opportunities so if if my if there is such a thing as trail-blazing in busting that open mom very happy that had happened well and the other thing that should be noted that you started to reverence at a bed outbreak bad. But i think you know it's now understood by all of us because we were lucky enough to see all the all the seasons of it that it changed television but why did it change vision. I wonder if we can just note a few things and then just get your reaction You know obviously like a lot of these shows in this new golden age of t. v. It's there's an anti hero but as you say he did not start as an anti hero and people are the whole model again as you referenced. Tv the assumption is people wanna see the same thing week after week. Not the guy changed that or woman change who they've invest themselves in so that's one thing but that's not the only thing i mean the other things here. Could this have happened at any other time in history. We've got at the time that breaking bad is blowing up a amc well to make it to just even get on the air. Amc has to want to get into original programming then to have it catch on because it wasn't that heavily viewed right to have it catch on. People are catching up with benching. It on netflix. Right the later as in the middle of the run and then beyond that just the moment that it was dealing with so many subjects that you know that seemed to echo in society. We've got the great recession. We've got bernie madoff. We've got obamacare debate over you know should be helped out with healthcare I guess i just wonder for you. Do you believe that not not to put this all on luck either because obviously there was a great amount of talent and skill and all that but i mean could this show have been what it was at any other moment in history to great questions. I think you're right. I think there's a confluence of of many things that happened. So many things first of all courage within the executive ranks Zach van amberg and jamie erlich who assani who saw this and and saw the value of it in the end the outrageousness of it of being able to do this kind of show and taking it to their boss at the time and convincing steve. Moscow is like this is the thing we should do. And and and michael lynton and this if you guys believe in it. It's your career you know. And then having people like charlie collier ed carol at amc to say this is gutsy and risky. It may fail miserably but we are all in and we want this to happen and that takes a lot of courage. You know to do that to say that it's the execution of it as you said When we were just a little show in the in the albuquerque desert shooting know who we were we did a seven episodes in our first season because a writer strike stopped us from completing ten and then second season where like you know the the everybody critics loved it and not too many people were watching yet. And it's like well okay and it's a nice and amc to their credit showed a lot of patients with us and grateful for that. Never lost any steam as far as support from sony. So we were excited about that and then it switched. Netflix's went from that little red envelope to pushing a button on your computer and everything changed so by the time our third season was starting people were wondering. What's this what everybody talking about. What does that breaking bad. What the heck is that. And and they were able to catch up quickly because of netflix. And they caught up quickly and net flicks thank god for net flicks that i think that was instrumental in keeping us on the air and and really heralding this unique show and allowing people to find it and yes i think it touched people's lives because of the debate of of universal health. Care and shoulda shoulda teach your have to have a second job to pay for his bills or her bills. Come on and all these things and you you rooted for him in and then the healthcare system in the country and The recession and men and women struggling to to just keep their head above water and and so all those things came into play The the the timing was you know. All the stars were aligning in this in this story. And and we had a person at the helm vince. Gilligan who you know had the audacity to tell this kind of of risky story and you know just it it is. You know. I as i as i joke and i say it proudly it's it's going to be the opening headline of my eventual. And i'm i'm more than five totally. I mean the amazing amazing amazing show. And i i wondered as we move towards this more recent period even just though the transition as your as this show you were. I'm sure being recognized as malcolm in the middle was a network show that was watched by a lot of people and that was one level of famine opportunity. The probably came with that but to now be winning. Emmys year after year to be on a show that's Became a cultural touchstone by certainly by the by the time it was wrapping up. It was like a everybody if there weren't water cooler shows anymore but this was one this was like the exception I just wonder jarring for you as a guy who has talked about the value of being able to just go out and observe people behaving normally and channeling that into your acting and all that when that's no longer possible in the same way just on a personal level on an acting level. How did you handle that transition. Interestingly enough i was having this conversation well shooting x. Files with david duchovny. And he was a big star on that show is tremendous and and he was doing some movies and and we were talking about because i was not their area. This is just a working actor. And nobody knew who i was really and i was asking him about. What's it like for you now. You know coming up the ranks and now you're a you're a television star. Your and what's that like walking around town and things like that and he actually mentioned something that i intern talk about often and i give him credit. It's that he said you know as an as an actor job. It's to observe human behavior and being able to replicate it watching people studying them in various situations and filing it away for when you happen to be playing character and that moment is going to come in handy so study it no it and he said but when you if you become famous suddenly the observer becomes the observed and you lose that ability to be objective to disappear in a crowd and being able to watch and do your work and it's so true and i used to. I took that information. I used to go to the mall with my wife and she used to go shopping and i always have a newspaper with me. And i'd look around and i'd see two people. If two people were having an argument or look like there was some strain to their relationship. I would get as close as i possibly could sit on a bench and hold up the newspaper of just under my eyes and and watch and listen to their argument and i'd watch their behavior and studied and if they happen to turn over i would lift the paper up and be a guy reading a paper and i'd always have you know some some earphones or headphones in those days in and look like i was listening to some music and i bought my head and they felt comfortable that they had some level of privacy when in fact they didn't and and so that's i always tell actors. You should never be bored if you're bored. You're not doing your work. Get an and writers to get out there and observe human behavior in situations that you're not familiar with go. I would go to. I've done this several times. Not only would i go to airports. Not when i'm flying but just to observe back in the day when you could go and freely oh in here and there and you and people at airports are anxious. They're afraid of flying or they're they're anxious to meet someone coming off a plane or they're excited or they're down. They're taking a trip maybe to go to a funeral. Or something in a heightened reality and it's great to observe also. I used to go to hospital. Emergency room waiting rooms. So they're all open and uses walk into a waiting room of an emergency room and there. It is full display people with injuries. Just waiting to be seen by the doctor or people pacing wondering if their friend is going to be okay and it's like. Wow wow so emergency room. Waiting rooms people get to it. But when you now if you were to do that today now now it doesn't work for me because so that's my. That's my information before you become famous listening. Do your homework those places so post breaking bad. There's the the moment where as much as ever not that. It's not still the case but you could pretty much. I would think do what you wanted. In that moment. There was a lot of a lot of just awareness and respect for what you can do. And i wondered what that moment felt like. Did you feel pressure to strike now while the iron hamas as the saying goes or could you relax and enjoy it because let's just note what you did do and i was very lucky to get to see. I think it was two into broadway shows within five years with first all the way as lbj and then network is howard beale. Both of them unbelievable. You win tonys for both of them but not only notable because you were so good but because they are such physically grueling thing so there's those you had started to do bigger movies even during breaking bad with Dr and argo. But now i know there was probably more opportunity with that. But just as as the final thing before i Focused on your honor. I just wonder that moment in the aftermath when people seize the moment some people. Don't how are you approaching it. Scott when i was a working actor for since i was twenty five years old when i was forty when i got malcolm in the middle fifty when i got breaking bad so i was eased into celebrity and fame and i think that helped me tremendously i. I still am very Conscious of of money. And i don't spend a lot and i because of my upbringing and but my focus is always been on the storytelling. What's the what's the storytelling. And if you get to a position where you have options you should only work in things that that motivate you that move you that resonate with you very lucky. I knew because of that. I was telling my boys on malcolm in the middle. Remember this time. Embrace this moment because it it's fleeting it goes and we'll you'll look back and you think man. That was so fast. I i don't even remember most of it. So i'm very aware of embracing the time embracing the moment when young. Aaron paul was twenty six years old and just starting out on breaking bad. I said remember this time. Remember where we are. What we're doing that. We're so lucky to be given this opportunity to tell the story be these characters. It's so i do it all the time. I always stop ago. This great. we're doing my gosh. You mentioned the the physical demand and emotional demand on the characters that i played in those two plays. That's what i love. I believe in that philosophy of when all is said and done. I want to be exhausted by the day i die. I want to be spe- absolutely spent. And when i go and an act i want to be in something that's meaningful i wanna. I wanna do something that moves me. That challenges me that makes me feel and an and think and an emote enemy. I want it all and That's just i mean it's it's great and so when breaking bad was ending. I thought oh. This is gonna be tough to figure out what to do next thing i did do. I said i'm not going to be on tv for three years. I don't know why. I said three years but i gave myself that moratorium Because of the fact of what became of and in the site. Geist of all that walter white heisenberg and that whole thing. The iconic nature of the character was bigger than anything. Anybody could imagine so. I needed to go hide out. I needed to do something that was different. And that's why focused on going and doing theater is a my ability to to still have that opportunity to work and to create but not in that widespread internationally focused in that face. My face is you know. I have that face so on stage though. There are no close ups network that were good television it does. I never got to see it though. You know it's funny. Is when i did the broadway play of all the way and then we did the movie for. Hbo and people would say which one did you think was most effective and i said i don't know i never saw which is true. I'd never say i never saw it. I made something i feel. Sorry for you because it was very good. Thank you for. I was such a treat to think. I saw network twice and i believe all the way twice but certainly the anyway. It's just fantastic all right so now. I don't want to take advantage of your time. I wanna make sure that we spend our last few minutes here talking about this great limited series that i don't know is it a limited series your so. Your honor is on showtime. It's saying ten episode show. Which there's i guess these days. There's no reason why if you wanted to do multiple seasons of a show that doesn't if it because it got a following and this one certainly did let's just note the largest premiere audience for showtime limited series ever and the audience was consistently huge after that. But i guess you know just to quickly up before you answer that question. Michael deseado a judge in new orleans whose son is in a hit and run incident and now he has to decide. How does he handle this So i guess the appeal the original appeal of this of going back to tv for you but also what is it. A series is limited series. All that i don't know. I mean everything crosses over now. Look at movies on netflix. The movie is a movie. I don't think it really matters for actors and right. we're just telling stories. I i want to be able to keep mixing it up. I wanna do comedies. When i've done a lot of drama. I wanna do theater. If i've done television. I wanna do movies if i've i wanna keep moving and go into environments that. Just tell really good stories. That's it for me. This was a really good story. Your honor the concept of your honor was. How far would you go to save the life of your child. What would you do and i ask. I asked all my friends and people. I'm meeting i go. I tell him that. The gist of the story. And i say so. What would you do if your child was in a hit and run accident. Panicked left the scene of the of the accident in which therefore becomes a a crime hidden leaving the scene of an accident and the end. Someone else dies. because of your child's actions. What would you do and he said why. Would i will do the right thing and convince them. You have to turn yourself in to the police. And i said that's what my character does do so go to the police station and i'm ready to turn my son in when i see the parents of the boy who died in the accident and the man is a notorious gangster a very dangerous deadly vicious human being and i know without any question in my mind. That man will kill my son. That man is going to kill my son and at that moment i need to make an impulsive decision and i do i turn around and i take my son back home and from that point on the simply slippery slope of course of manipulating the jurors in my case. Because i'm a judge destroying evidence lying to authorities creating alibis all these things. I become criminal. And i ask people. Would you become a criminal if it meant. You can save the life of your child to a person. Everyone said absolutely immediately absolutely. It's to save my child absolutely. I become a criminal. And then i say so if that meant that someone innocent dies and then it stops the train and it's like god and they feel the anguish. I go. That's what my character is dealing with in your honor and so boy talk about ethical dilemma. It's a morality tale and to see someone struggling with trying to make the right decision is what audiences want to see. And i think. I think it may have been the best watched a series in showtime's history because at the time that were suffering through the pandemic and all that that brings there is some relief in seeing someone else. Go through something that's worse. Yes sean exactly. At least i'm not that guy. Well at its you know the other thing. That's come up a lot. I know you've been asked about tonight. I could see potentially being annoying. But it's also. How do you not notice that here like walter white but obviously totally different characters but a guy who is also starts out as upright guy moral guy is faced with a dilemma and make some compromises which there's no turning back from. What are what are the most the biggest similarities and the biggest differences between these two characters. That brought you so much acclaim I thought about that a lot. Scott because i don't want to tread on on territory that i've already stomped on and i realized at my age i'm going to be a father or grandfather. I'm going if there's if there's a story about ethical dilemmas. Wow that's it. it's either bad to good good bad what you're thinking at a person making a choice that turns them into something or doing something that they would not normally do. So that's unavoidable. So i wanted to make sure that there was enough distinction between michael ziada and walter white that it wouldn't like oh he's doing the same thing and for me to so and the difference is quite clear. Is that walter. White is premeditated he had time to think about this and he thought he very carefully and precisely what he was going to do and how he was going to do it with michael deshea. No it's impulsive. It's you need to make this decision right now right here. And he didn't have the luxury of thinking through scenarios on. Well if i do this now what's going to happen in the ripple effect. No it's just make the move and hope for the best. And that's what that impulsivity was. What was exciting to me about it. The other thing is what makes it. The distinction between the characters is that michael deseado is constantly struggling to turn the tide and do the right thing at every given time. He wants to change and do the right thing. Now stop this madness and confess. He wants to bring people in. He wants to feel love and togetherness again and he's struggling mightily. Walter white is on a change a transition where he went from a point of powerlessness and and being intimidated by the world to being powerful and intimidating others and he was seduced into his own ego and and that sense of power and he liked it as we found out at the end of his journey. He's not apologizing. He did what he was good at it. And he felt strong and powerful and he was owning his own fr- own weaknesses and character flaws. Final final question is this. You have now start on the greatest tv series of all time in the opinion of a lot of people including myself. You have one award except the oscar. i think so. That's still to do. But a i have no doubt that will that will happen. You've made a nice living. What would young brian. Let's say pre motorcycle trip with your brother have said if you were able to have told him that this is where things we're gonna end up when he's sixty five and what keeps sixty five year old brian working at an age literally the age when quite a lot of people just say. I'm going to retire and play golfing. Relax and stop working. Well again i would go back to the process. I fell in love with acting. I really did. It's a relationship. And i'm devoted to that relationship so every time that i had an audition it was an opportunity for me to express love really Is so it wasn't i. If you there's there's one thing that i would say that for young actors in in brought it in my book as well but it's it's to be able to adjust the perspective of the audition. The addition seems to be a job interview but it is indeed. Not the audition is your moment to be able to present something of value and you value yourself as a creative person you've worked on the scene. You've there's no. There's no substitute for putting the time in malcolm. Glad wells right. Ten thousand hours are needed. And you keep putting in that time. Keep putting in that energy and present it if you're in love with the process then you're presenting something that you're proud of and here it is and it's a gift you're giving them a gift and and you're walking away from that not insisting that they continue on with that gift by calling you and saying you've got the job a gift is a gift you leave it go and i wrapped my head around and completely took that in and it changed my life forever. Once that happened and I won't expound upon it any more than that At this point but if the sixty five year old man that i am now look back untold. The twenty five year old. Young man This is what's going to happen to you. I don't know neither i. It would not have been real to me i. I don't think i would have believed it. Also i didn't wanna i don't wanna get into that head that ooh look where i've ended up look at what's happened to me and to have an young actor a writer director focus on some end zone kind of celebration. It's it's the running. It's the it's getting knocked down and the next play you get back up and you run again and you get knocked down again. You get back. That's the whole point. So that's the that's the joy that as far as me in my age. Now i'm just gonna go until well. I'll tell you the truth scott. My my mother died of alzheimer's and So that's a possibility who knows what physical or mental health we will have going forward I watched my mother's memory. Just start slipping away and you know a it is possible if if it i get to the point where i cannot memorize my lines and have them become a part of the being of the character that i'm playing if i'm just focused on on with my next. I gotta say this this that line. If i'm just all up in my head thinking about oh my god panicking about my next line. I will retire immediately. Hang it up and go. Okay like a proud athlete. I i don't wanna. I don't wanna hang on and have people go home only struggling. Oh my god so sad now. no. I'm i'm too prideful of of what The of my journey. So i i want to. If i'm still having fun it means up. My faculties are still working and functioning. I can play old man roles. And i look forward to that. I look at look at anthony hopkins look done. Look what he's done by the way a very big fan of your performance and breaking bad. Well yes he wrote a a lovely letter to not just me but the entire cast and he didn't need to do that and it was a lovely gesture and i've spoken with him a couple times had lunch with him and i'm sitting across matthew hopkins and You know the father was brilliantly written. Play where i saw franklin geologist crush it on broadway and now what he was able to do in this film Just beautiful work in what you aspire to. Well that's a that is what you do all the time and it's such a treat to get to watch it to get to speak with you. Thank you for taking the time and being so generous with your memories. I really appreciate it. Thank you scott appreciate it. Thanks very much for tuning into awards. Chatter we really appreciate taking the time to do that and would really appreciate you taking a minute. More to subscribe to our podcast on itunes or your podcasts out and to leave us a rating as well if you have any questions comments or concerns you can reach me via twitter at twitter dot com slash fiber and you can follow all of my coverage between episodes at t. Hr dot com slash the race until next time. Thanks for joining us.

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"Bryan Cranston"

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"Bryan Cranston"

"Happy new year's to everybody from us here at smart spotless every week you already know the drill we one of us brings a guest and the other two. Don't know and then the everybody's surprised when we talked to them and then basically just trying to get to us making fun of bateman. Anyway it's smart. You're listening to it. Let's go art school. You want to snap so we can start chatting. Think our guest is already ready to rock. Good let's start. have fun are rolling. He safe we were already rolling. We'd better have been rolling on that rob yes. We can't afford to clear I was just gonna say band aid. Do they know it's christmas. They know it's christmas. Time is a wam so the wasn't women. It george was. Andrew originally was not invited. How do you know but major was in a bano is in it Bob dylan was in just sold. His records bob dylan was not in it. Because he was he the american ones that was. Yeah yeah so. That was live aid right now. Banned which was the precursor to live aid. That was where they did. The christmas song That was that was put together by Up geldof bob. Geldof sir bob geldof to you. Sorry named the band. The bug geldof was in five four. Three thanks town rats. God when did you become such a music dork. Boomtown rats biggest hit. Tell me what i deny. Mondays dummy why don't make. What is her album drop. Well it already dropped. And it smashed dropping smashed over so there was live aid right. Which was the quincy jones wrong. Y'all band aid was the first one was. Do they know it's christmas then. The americans did that With quincy jones put. It's the people we are the world. Bruce springsteen famously shut up. I'm brand new to the planet. That was the constitution a little earlier. I've got a great song. The constitution is a great jazz. Sure is it fusion few but then they did. I watched live aid. And here's another fact about live eight. It was both the american and english. Version were opened by anybody. Know phil collins opened the one in london. Then he got on. The concorde flew to philly and open the one in philadelphia. What do you mean. A open was the opening act. Oh but needed the concorde to make that curtain to make up the time. Yeah hey why. Didn't they stop making the concord. It was always. My dream is a kid to get out of that thing and you can get over to london to second now from what i understand. The operated kinda like brands operate those huge flagship stores. They don't make any money on fifty seventh street or fifth avenue. They don't make any money but they're good for the brand. That's kind of what. The concorde was air brand your higher hoses. What did you smart pill this morning or you. Back on coke listened shut up. Do you not want answers. His christ i did fly on it twice. It was quite nice. Thing was what was it like going through the sonic boom. You know it actually pulsed. There was like this like little pulse. Every thirty seconds is it like accelerated and went through these speeds descended at a really steep steep angle. I guess because they had to keep up that speed as long as they could before they came down. I i don't know. But i like minded to do that as a kid. That's okay let me tell you what a dream is is our is our next guest. Or will i see you're pulling up something else to boris with or is it about voting the concord crash that few people. It's just a few but anyway look at that not just never said just a few you so reading. Can we. something to tighten up in the edit. We'll still there. I'm still coke. Does to you. I i'm looking at you start to just obsess over something expert. We cook expert. Okay guys tighten up. Let me pull up my notes. I do a little bit of research. When i pretend that you know what you're talking about. No i don't want to trick anybody all right now. Listen this week's guesses is a little something different for us. while yes. He is an actor He hasn't always been one. K started out as a political science. Major then became a young cop in training. He then became a motorcycle. Vagabond then broke into hollywood playing beloved characters such as zoar john dalton snit zred and walter as an amateur pedicurist. He has only one real eyebrow in three fake fingers men. It's brian xavier cranston the fifth. I didn't know a lot of that but three finger. What are you talking about re fingers. Look how real they all look right there. You didn't he didn't just believed you. I you when you said three fake thing. I only have to fake figures he flipped. How are you go brian. My gosh it's so nice to see you in cranston. How are you man. Yeah i'm okay. i'm doing well. I'm excited to be on the smartest show. And i can't think of three more smartest guys thank you. Between the three of us we can get a one good thought together. Right off the bat brian. I want to say first of all Were so gosh honored to have you here jason. What incredible guest. This is a classy guest. Here we don't know each other well but we've met many times over the years in the. Here's and there's and you know you're one of those guys you're such. I don't want to embarrass. You're such an incredibly talented guy. And i mean that because you can have done at all. You're super funny. You're super great actor and you've done it kind of seemingly just kind of done what you wanted does that does that resonate with you. Do you feel like you've done kind of what you wanted. I was waiting for the third thing incredibly handsome part. I guess that goes without saying okay. Come on he put that in the chat window. Did you not read that. You put it in the. It's creepy when he who starts texting you in the middle of the interview. But i do mean that you are handsome. Sorry didn't mention that. But i do mean that you you really have done so many different thing you have so many different gears and it's so admirable and do you again go back to my question. Do you feel like you've done it the way you wanted to do it on your terms. Hey well all of us began somewhere and when you first start as an actor you know short answers. Brian short answers some of us are pricks and some of us earn really nice people you go you know you you just learn to say yes right away because you wanna pay rent and pay for your pictures and resumes in those days and classes and stuff and if you get lucky like we all have One job begets another begets another and all of a sudden you. You're in a position where you can have actually a little say-so in your in your destiny and you know that's that's a really lucky break for any actor. I think so too. I because a lot of people don't like the word luck. I think i completely believe that a lot of it is luck but luckily there's some somebody has it. There's a smart saying that. I don't have right now but it's butcher feel free to you guys probably straight me out about like luck comes to those who are prepared. Something like that went opportunity meets preparation. Yeah luck of yeah man. That's amazing i'm going to get that printed on some plates and then break we get so much cover with our title. You know we can just be as dumb. Or i can. As i really am with smart lists now brian in the incredible Research that i've done for this interview. I did stumble upon sort of a a a kindred experience with our upbringing. A you grew up in canoga park and i was just upstream with an hills but be you had a father. I don't know if he's still with us. Mine is but That was also In the industry and had something short of Overnight success and i'm wondering how that affected your your commitment to your career to your ambition Did it give you Rocket fuel or did it. Did it worry you. It gave me great pause. Actually because my father led by the ideal that He was destined to become a star. And when he didn't become a star it really destroyed him and Through extension destroyed the family and my whole family just blew him. When i was about eleven years old twelve. He's home went to live with my grandparents. We were foreclosed on on her house. And so this little house in canoga park where my mom and dad you know raised my brother and myself my little sister which was home and which was a sanctuary for us. All of a sudden was nonexistent with a big red sticker on the door. Foreclosure bank honed. Get out you know. It was like a scarlet letter. How old are you about eleven. Yeah and you know. My dad always was working wasn't working hit a job. He didn't have a job had a good year bad year. I remember one year got a pretty new car and then the following year. We got rid of that car and got a really old car and then one year we put in a built in swimming pool which was fantastic the next year i remember my mother saying we couldn't afford the chemicals to swim so it turned out to be his this pond of at god of mosquitoes and everything is exactly painting breaking bad chemical. So that didn't drive you to study a career. That is a bit more of america. Crecy as opposed to something that is left up to the decision of sometimes unpredictable audience. Yeah it did well. My dad was gone. I didn't see him for at least ten eleven years and so with that vacuum. I kind of got attached to the idea of law enforcement because in those days. I don't know if you're old enough to remember you. I'm older and all of you. But on the time they used to have career days at high schools and he has to take over the gym and have military and firemen and the gas company and everybody represented in. One of those was the lapd. And so i thought wow that's an image of a masculine man and so that looks like the right thing to do. And they're in control. So i started kind of wondering about that. I became a police explorer. And i did really well out of one hundred sixteen sixteen-year-olds throughout los angeles. I graduated first in the class. Wow so that told me or this is what you should do then right very pragmatic so i got involved in it. I went to valley junior college to start studying it. Because we had no money and i was going to transferred to ucla with this police science degree and then go into the lapd. That was my whole plan. Second era valley college. Mike counselor says you need some elective courses. So i owe acting. I did some of that. When i was a kid was an actor and i did a couple commercials and things like that. That sounds like fun. Let's do that and the first class. I got into with a black box theater and the teacher. Who was you know over this whole thing. Would teaching these young kids. So he's handing out these scenes you to read this and depending on who you are standing next to. That's who you're reading partner with you to read this you to read this you to reduce go and i looked down at the page very nervous and it said a couple is making out on a park bench. Oh my god. I looked up. And i saw the girl i was supposed to read with and she was really cute and i thought oh my god almighty nineteen years old. He told me that's your wife. I'm gonna freak out. It's not my wife. It's your wife. Jason one your. We'll be right back. After these messages she was a make she was amazing. I agree to by the way. It should be noted that that jason so nervous he has career day on the set of ozark once a week. I mean this is how nervous i don't trust employment. Wait brian i wanna know like family questions. So how does your mom raise you. Where did your dad go when you guys finally reconnected. What was that like It's kind of sad my my mom. started drinking and Married four times and had numerous boyfriend. She was kind of like blanched. Aw and put holler attention and effort and energy into the attention of men and My dad remarried and went off and I dunno they were drinking a lot and probably doing some drugs and is very unstable so he stayed away for a long time. You were with your grandparents at this time. I was with my grandparents for a year. Then i went back and my brother. And i lived with our mother again but There was bad influence. And so by the time i was sixteen. I was pretty much on my own and trying to figure things out. I mean the obvious question is why are you. Not you know holding a liquor stores right now or incarcerated or I mean why. Why are you so high functioning. 'cause i'm parole. Why do you. Why are you so balance. You strike me as a very kind man. That's probably a really decent onset and probably a great family man yourself. I mean is it just because you had an opposite model to look at and basically. I'm just going to go left where everything else went right. Yeah that's it. Yeah it's like okay. So that example didn't work and neither did that one right so don't do either one of those things right and you know it's not the thing i would wish on anyone else and i wouldn't give that to my daughter. I've been married now for thirty one years while and we have a twenty seven year old daughter and life is good and yeah jas what would you said is right. You learn from your parents. Hopefully it's good things in sometimes. It's the opposite of that. So you have to just kinda ford your own way. Yeah i just say as the sort of the outlier to these kinds of backgrounds. The three of you. what sort of what. I've noticed that the three of you have stories. That are not dissimilar. In the in the sense that you had moments in your younger life there was a lot of trauma in familial trauma cetera. And three of you guys and brian. I'm just sort of just finding this out. All three of you guys kind of went the other way and i think that that's really interesting jason. You've gone since the day of known you've always sort of sought out having a really firm solid family life in a in home life and you settle down once you kind of got to a certain age. And in you sought that out. And sean you to you have a circus you and you still sort of our plus be fair No but you. You also have an all three of you guys i. It's funny to to see three guys who had a lot of adversity at a young age dealing with problems and issues that aren't necessarily appropriate for eleven year olds twelve year. It's a lot to take on and don't sell yourself short. Either you know You know you grew up in a house where never had to fold any close all you know how to fold assured and and and run a load of wash now right in the last couple of years. 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Having said all that i had great moments of parenting from both of my parents but thankfully i had somewhat of a an ability to kind of cherry. Pick the best moments of their parenting and eliminate some of the things that they probably would admittedly do a little bit differently today for brian you were eleven did this is not the typical conversation on our show. This is probably about as heavy as we've ever been. Jesus christ cranston killed our vibe. We're going to get into his Kilo company and a minute here. Let's get it's going to be good by the way. This is a great story so he didn't turn to to booze and stuff he just actually started booze. Come i'm gonna just monetize. No but when you were eleven. Did you know that did you. Did you recognize that. Hey shit this tough or did you just kind of roll with the punches at the time. Well you know. That's a tough age. Eleven twelve when. You're just starting to look outward thinking that your foundation is all set. This mom dad got now. What's out there. And all of a sudden. The rug is pulled out and everything that you thought was solid is not so it caved me in. I became an introvert for many years. All through middle school and high school. There's probably a half a dozen people. That remember who i was in high school because i i was just sucked up against the wall. I didn't have any confidence. I didn't have a safety net in anything. So i would just observe now consequently. I think that actually helped me in later years. Because i was watching everything right but somehow you manage to avoid the the booze and the usually that that pushes people into alcohol because they're so reserved and looking for a way to to open up. Yeah i think is also that sense of. I don't want to be out of control. i you know i. There's a certain amount of of safety in in staying in control. And i think that's what what did it for me is that i saw my parents rising to say what is the. What is your fear from growing up like that that you don't want to what you know that that what did that make you become because of everything. Being control of your fears is not being in control and it's also looking at people you know doing something that perhaps you don't wanna do when you get older and i wonder how that affects like comedy versus drama for you. If you're like me you don't really make a huge distinction between the two Because neither one of us are are usually cast is like the real crazy comedy guy or the real dangerous drama guy. We kind of play kind of the the guy in the middle. That's either getting chased by the scary guy or reacting to. You know the idiot. Like will arnett or sean hayes right Hey listen. I first of all. I'm take offense for brian. Because i remember plenty of episodes of malcolm in the middle where brian was a fucking idiot. You will. you're welcome. Got your back such a good show. So do you really care about comedy versus drummer. You just kind of looking for the other parts of the package you know i care about if i've been doing too much of one i care about going into the other you know and i i don't want to be known as any one thing. I want to keep challenging myself. I wanna keep trying new things and discover if i'm any good at it Brad at the very least you know. I just don't want to be pigeonholed. So when when malcolm in the ended after seven years. I was offered to pilots to play a sweet goofy dad and immediately of course it was no Because i would be derivative of myself if i went right into something else. You just can't. That's the danger though. Right is like in a perfect scenario. The thing that you're doing becomes a huge success but with that comes being pigeonholed as that. Because now that's a very high profile thing like malcolm in the middle was high But but fortunately for you. You had a pre existing relationship with vince gilligan. So he was able to kind of look past that and throw Breaking badger way. Yeah it was unbelievable. You know a my episode of x. Files was just an actor job going out and doing and and then nine years later i get this call. After malcolm finished and sean this this speaks to the luck factor Fox said keep the sets up. We might do an eighth season of malcolm in the middle that everybody's like yeah. That'd be great in april Late april and early may they called when the up france are going on. They said nope. We had a very good pilot season. Thank you guys did well. And you're on your so we thought at the for To bed later that month. I get the call to go. See a guy named vince. Gilligan do you remember him from x. Files man kinda and he wants to see you about this. New project called breaking bat and i read it and i thought oh my god. This is amazing. I met with them. He says. I want to turn mr chips into scarface. And i think you're you're the guy to do it. And i know that a mc and sony both said we no wait. Wait wait walter. White can't be that goofy dad from malcolm in the middle. Please please we let. Let's see others. Let's you know he was my champion. And i needed that. Good fortune to have someone in my corner to say no no no. He's an actor and that's what he was doing then. And this is what and so he copied off is episode that he wrote and produced on x. Files and sent it to the people at sony. An emc in and said look. This is when i met him. So now you tell me. Do you think he can do the in on that show. Is that you know you. Don't start at the beginning of it. As how you end in it you start as a very unassuming sort of passive type of almost malcolm in the middle type of character was so that part of it is a huge fit and hopefully they did see that that might be a nice smooth transition point and therefore you will be perfect. Yeah what was interesting. The luck factor comes in is that we shot the pilot february and march of seven. Had we got that eighth season of malcolm in the middle. I would not have been available to shoot violet someone else. Who isn't that amazing. Listen isn't it interesting. Brian is going to say something. I just cut our guest. I'm going to say that it is absolutely my belief i dug. Mathematically believe this that a career in our business cannot be fully realized without a healthy dose of luck sprinkled through. I totally agree for a but was going to say is kind of interesting that when you start getting recognition for your amazing work and and fame kind of just happens upon you. You're feeling is like well. I've always been here doing my thing. And it seems like everyone around you kind of changes and we all know that recognition on a wide scale is always a good thing because it helps getting your next gig but what was your feeling like when breaking bad because you weren't not famous because malcolm in the middle but breaking badges made you hugely successful and famous. So what was that feeling like. Did you feel like finally. I got the thing that i've been after or you kind of like try not to buy into the critics no matter how positive or negative and you just kind of keep your head in the game. I think getting back to the beginning of the conversation. I i just learned to take my ability to apply the work ethic. Just keep your head down and go to work. Yeah if someone taps you on the shoulder and says hey we want to give you a job. Oh great if someone taps you on the shoulder and says we want to nominate you for some. Oh wow really. Oh that's fantastic but you never ever look to take job because you think it's going to get you nominated for something jason. Sean will now brian. This is this is the other thing i have to admit to you. Now that we're sitting here talking to each other. I was really really late to the breaking bad game. And i we've we've met each other passing through the business over the over the years. You've always been so kind. And i've always looked up to. You is one of the most talented people in the business and somebody's finally. You've you haven't seen breaking bad. You've got to see it so i just watched it like a year ago two years ago and so this is really kind of crazy for me to meet to see right now again was like holy shit so much fresher in my mind than your from the notes though. Brian daboll locked shows pictures locked. Definitely little thing. Yeah yeah not a big deal honestly honestly not just a slight adjustment actually wanna know when you were making that show did you feel that storytelling kind of that satisfaction making it because the writing was so strong performances were off the hook. But did you feel that sense of like every time you got a script going like. Yes as we know. It's all about the strength of the writing. If if it's there then you can elevate that and really embracing but if it's not there there's there's not much you can do. The pilot. script was audacious. He's what he's wanted right. He told me he said. I want to change the lead character from a good guy to a bad guy and i thought that's never been done. Yeah even tony. Soprano was who he was right vic mackey and all these characters that came before but to actually change a character at focal without knowing how many seasons you guys were gonna get. Were there conversations with vince about how you were going to calibrate that arc based on not knowing whether it was going to be a three season arcaro six season arc for the to land the plane where that character goes. He didn't really know what kind of angle he could. Put the pitch at right now. That's the good thing about Vince gilligan zayed's His that he said. Well i don't know they're gonna let me do this but we'll just give it a try. They'll probably cancel us within the first six. I know they will not gonna let us do what i wanna do. A hell would just give it a try and just and and the actors are the ones with the anxiety and insecure. People always ask us. Did you know your show will and grace or arrested or and did you know that was going to be a hit. And of course we don't just react to something you respond to the writing in the character and you give it your best shot and you hope and then it turned out to be the way it turned out and like. Oh my god. Yeah you know brian. Of course. I have to ask this question because we're talking about the thing that really just catapulted your career and i'm sorry for asking but do you ever feel a sense of having to match it or top it. I mean. obviously you probably ignore that because you're a great person and you're a super smart person and your head is in the game. You're great actor but does any part of you inside just go. Oh my god. This next job i actually have to. It has to be as big as breaking bad. At least you know when we were about to close out our production in two thousand thirteen. I had that for sure. I though the bar is so high. I'll never be able to find. It's gotta be something you know. And i was offered the movie godzilla. I turned it down. You didn't think you could play a lizard range breath. It'd be nicer to yourself. And i i said i don't know that's that's not going to work and i turned it down twice and then i started thinking about it and i realized wait a minute am i being snooty about this is this is not nowhere. The same realm as breaking bad. It's a completely different genre. It's and i loved godzilla when i was a kid. Yeah and this a good role in you know what. Maybe this exactly what. I should do something so different right that. It can't be really measured in the same way. And plus those two passes taught you a little something about negotiating too little bit a little hard to get. Yeah the feet. And it filled a lotta gaps at filled a lot of gaps bride. You are you. How do you cope with downtime. Are you always like. I gotta work to work. You know that syndrome of saying yes. As a beginning actor has is hard to turn that bus around you know. So just naturally i. I love to act. It's a it's really a passion of mine have been doing it for forty years and it's so much fun so when it stops being fun is when i when i retired. Yeah brian i am. You've had good luck because an also talented. But i feel the same way. I'm very nut precious about doing stuff. And i've made a ton of what could from the outside be looked at as blenders but i also don't give a shit because in the world life is so long and so and they're all gis experiences and i'm not. I don't feel worse as a person today. Because i've done some things that didn't go where i never. I never set out to do things that were cry. Think you also have a great deal of faith that you're not gonna suck in it. The product might be something maybe less than what you would want it to be. But i think we all know that we don't have control over four corners of a product You can only do your part as well as you can you and you truly. It is to me that you look at the rest of the package. Who else is involved. What's what's it kind of going for. And the actual part itself or the. The prospects of success or financial growth is sort of second to What the whole thing is going to be Were you hope it can be is that. Is that something that is that. How you kinda factor things. Brian or is it Is it more about the part itself. It's about the money the good for you finally know the moment that i stop thinking about money at the moment i've started making more than i ever thought i would in my life and it's never really been about that as a matter of fact. I had an epiphany in one of the rounds being a working actor all through the days of those shows in the eighties. I was doing every guest star. Every show murder she wrote matlock. And this and that and chips and you know you name it and all that stuff. And i kept going into an audition thinking i was there to get a job and then i finally realized. Oh this is the wrong way to go in. You have to go in to do a job not to get a job so if you walk into an office and you don't want anything from them you're there to give them something. Your energy completely changes your come in there with confidence and you leave them with your work with you worked on it and you did the audition and you walk away and from that point on. I've never stopped the best. Yeah that is great advice for young actors. Because i battle that a ton you know you you try to find that that healthy indifference walking into to a job but man it's so hard when you're somewhat savvy about what the prospects of this particular project could be. It's it's tough to turn that off. Did you feel that pressure jason when you were younger when like because you did. You were a big breadwinner for your family. Did that ever come into it. While you're going into an audition. Yeah yeah i mean it was. It was difficult to find that. The the thing that brian's talking about where it's this. I'm just going to prepare this scene this audition and just kind of do it the way i want to do it. And if they like that then they can have that. But i'm not going to try to to hit this invisible target and try to guess what they want. Because i so badly need the job That's that's a it's a it's a. It's very lucky if you can get to. That place of brian is talking about and You know it's not too dissimilar from you know growing up and trying to attract somebody to you You know in school like you know if you can find that sort of that sexy indifference in you know that kind of playing hard to get even if it's not manipulative if it's if it's an sear indifference Where you don't need this relationship Then you just become really attractive. But that's a tough line to because then that's manufactured indifference. I think that's why i. I'm obsessed with jason bateman. He won't let me if you've got your room clean upstairs right if you've if you've got your stuff together then you are somewhat self reliant in a lot of things in life right and you You kinda rights is a lot of things in And you don't press. I at least that's my own thing i i try. I try to apply that to much as i can. He's the man with manufactured indifference and we will be right back. Sean i feel like keep alert shoving in my face all the time. Their stories about hood about how important is to get a good night's sleep. Yes but i just know for certain people like you my friend because we talked about this all the time that getting good sleep is not easy. Yeah no it's something. I've been struggling with for years and years and years. I you know the news. I worry a lot about like personal things. And then you turn on the tv or the internet and it seems like the world's on fire so i need help to go to sleep like so many people do. I know it's a lot but there is an answer right. 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You're extraordinarily talented. I wanna know what makes you mad. His you off at work or just in life with people well. I don't you know if if you are the number one on the call sheet. I try to set a tone i take out my cast whether i'm doing a play or doing a film or whatever and i say all right. Here's here's what. I think i think we're the luckiest bastards in the world so I think that we should be on time. And i think we should all be prepared and come in with ideas and let's Be able to feel free to have artistic frustration but let's leave all the drama out of it. Yeah let's go. let's have fun. Let's go to work go home and if we can do that. That's great. I get in my girl the other kasmin this fucking guy. That's like no other stuff and you know know your work and be kind. Be respectful and i truly met. How do you deal with somebody. Who isn't that well. I pulled him aside. And i say what you know. Basically what's the problem is a problem. Can i help you with solving this as a reason that you're not on time got here a good guy. You're good gun talk you for a second. Just don't go want to say yeah What do you usually find that. Those people usually afflicted with a lack of experience A sense of entitlement Insecurity it's usually fear right. I found the bad behavior usually comes people that just don't don't feel comfortable and then and then you you probably take that on as as number one and you make them feel a bit better. Yeah well it's both you know it's the right thing to do as a as a person. But it's also the right thing to do for your production if incrementally if every guest star comes on your show and they feel comfortable. They're going to perform better and if they perform better. The show is going to be better and everything is lifted. Everybody has a better time. So you know that thing you talk about that kind of leadership on on onset in that kind of there's so much. I learned a lot from this guy from jason when we were doing arrested and let them finish early on season one. This is true stranded. Remember this and you did it. Very sort of gently. 'i remember thinking. I had nowhere to go. But i remember being like what am i saying to the. What summary wrapping tonight. You know the worst thing you can do. And and jason jason. He looked at me and he goes. We got you for the whole day. Right and and it really. It really affected me in. Put me in my place. And i understood in that moment. I got all of it. I got the subtlety and the not so. Subtlety changed the way my entire behavior on set for ever. I was influenced by tom. Hanks jim garner Dick van dyke These these people Who especially tom of an of several four different projects with him and his comportment is just right where you want it to be. He's fond he keeps it light. He absolutely knows his stuff. And everybody coming in better as well. you know. so you're playing but you're playing within the context of the show and then he wraps early. Everybody goes home and it's like that was a fun day. I can't wait for tomorrow. yeah. I've always told him. I wanna get a bracelet. Made says wwe hd. What would tom hanks do. You would fix a lot Brian what would people be most shocked to learn. You're great at. I put in my ten thousand hours. Thank you to malcolm. Glad well of loading the dishwasher. I am an excellent loader of a dish wile you know. I do literally struggle with that. I don't know what to do with the bowls because the malls will take up a great deal of space unnecessarily and if you stack them too much. You're not going to get a lot of water through there to clean that up. So i'm tempted. Sometimes they put it up on the on the cup rack but then there's not enough room for that. How do you fight that temptation. I just so at that point. I just took breaking them. You don't need to clean ones. that are broken. Whoa that's a little break them. And then and then my wife says forget it. You can't load the dishwasher. And when i say okay well that was your plan. Yeah oh really genius. What's a dishwasher. Very so brian so no no sports no. You're not a closet opera singer or Painter i- thumb. I have been known to play the drums a little bit. Oh realize i used to run marathons really yep marathon running. Did you ever do the boston because you got to do. A sub forum never did boston. You gotta do sub four hour time right to get in there and i did all four of my registered times or all under four hour. No way you of course now watched why you. Why did you stop. Why did you stop. Did your trick. Knee act up or something because it's harder no t. Why did i was on a soap opera in nineteen eighty-four which one do have an incredible jolly loving. Oh yes it was. A show called loving on agency. And i was working in new york and i was one of the young knuckleheads in the soap opera days. It was like you either good person or bad person. And i was a good person. And i was on for two years and lo and behold right before the end of the year i was thinking. Wow this has been a great two years. But i think i'm going to move on and do something else and i get called and they office and they fire me. It's like they didn't pick up my contract and of course it's like someone dumping you that you know you were gonna dump and then they get a chance to do it. I know wait wait. Wait wait no we can make this word army. I quit so i was. I was so despondent and felt so sorry for myself and a day. That was on a friday. And then saturday mope around and on a sunday. I said. Get out of this. Grab a bunch of film. Of course real film in those days and i grabbed my camera. My camera bag. And i. I said i'm going to go out and i'm just gonna shoot all day long and just be do something creative. I walk into central park. And what's all this. Oh my god is that it's marathon as. I'm not going to be able to take pictures and i said well. The first picture i took was that these two extremely fat cops in uniform. And you're like what i could have been. Yes their bellies. Were were touching each other but they were six feet apart and and with sign runners. This way runners. That win the ons. Pretty good picture and so i started taking pictures and i stayed there for five and a half hours and i watched this and i'm watching the sea of humanity run. I met the finish line at tavern on the green. And i'm watching it. And i said i heard myself say i could never do this and then i stopped and i went. Why couldn't i do that. I i don't know if i can do. Why would i say. I can't do it the next year i was in that race. Why and you. Why well i had. I not been fired. I wouldn't have happened. Yeah brian that have you always had that in this kind of goes back to what we started with. Which is you're dealt kind of a crappy hand and you made the most of it and there's another example and identify with that. Because i don't spend a lot of time i just the way that i'm made up and i wonder if that's the way you are that you had saturday to lick your wounds and by sunday you said get out of it and let's turn this thing around and i understand that i feel like i'm really lucky. Do you feel. Do you recognize that. That's something that you're just born with. Yeah i've never been a. I've never been a worrier. And i think if you're stability is rocked early on again wouldn't wish but i was more cautious and desiring even as a late eighteen into my twenties of setting a foundation that felt more grounded to me otherwise i wouldn't be able to exist right so i had to find something that a way of life that felt that i can stand tall on my own. Two feet without feeling like something is going to be taken from me so it's just developing from the beginning Bryan you've been so kind with your time today sir You you certainly Have set that solid base. It seems you were reaping all the rewards of all of those good decisions and going left instead of right and And we're all the richer for it with everything you're You're giving us so Keep going please. Keep giving us more stuff. Comedy-drama whatever you got stage screen will take it all. Yeah thanks You know. I just want us all in all sincerity. I have appreciated the three of you in your talents Immensely and i cannot wait to see everything you guys do. I do weight. 'cause i haven't seen anything but Yeah you you. Brian you are. You're one of the all-time great good vibe guys you have the i swear to god. You've got the best buy. And and that's the highest compliment. I think that you could pay somebody. And you're just such a solid great vibe dudes bri love everything you did. Thanks guys. thank you for doing this buddy. You bet all right great rest of the day take care bye now by you. Know i would love to work on one of his sets He seemed like such a great steady. Calm leader that Just would probably be no no nonsense and lots lots of good work that you guys watch breaking bad when it came out like i was. I just watched at a year ago. Yeah same here. I i was pretty late to as well as late and then i motored so great one of the greatest shows of all time. Oh my god. Incredible along with With beau jack is consistently in the top five all shows ever made. I would say that if we'll if even if you weren't on this i'm stunned. I mean it's for wisconsin. Jack horse horseman. Yeah they get it there too okay. It's not turn me into him. Oh god there is. I can't fuck it and give us a little bow jack. We'll give yourself some bucket. bodak there is. there is no listen his great though. I've always. I always used to run into him like on tv. Junket things with When he was on malcolm in the middle. And i was on will and grace and always always always the guy as always the same always so kind and a smile his such a great attitude and i meant it. He's just such a great vibe. He's guy that you want to talk to you by the way. That's that's why he works. Not only incredibly talented. But everybody wants to be around nice people. I do think you need a bank of goodwill in this business because you are going to strike out a bunch of times and if you've got a bunch of baggage behind you and beyond people hate you. They can't wait for you to get a couple of failures. It's like okay. Well he's out. Where do you keep eroding your bank. Why do you get shipping away. Because it's too big will allow sean. You've got a very good reputation to it. Should be known people really like you all right and it's true it's true everybody really likes you. That's very nice anytime. I talked to people because people are starting to listen to too smart lewis more than the one. I just found out. I think we have. We might have to listener. We hang all because we have wisconsin. Wisconsin will give that a pretty good reputation. You both do but it's but it's it has been taking water take water you know. Why is because you know what it is is because people are so intimidated by my plastic surgery. I think that's what it is right. It makes them feel insecure. Can't take how taught my neck. Just choose to hate you instead for it and they could. They say it's affected my voice and i'm like what jason great guests today hilarious awesome sweet kind talented guy and we didn't even get to his mess cal company. Dos hombres with aaron paul. Oh really really. He's your guests. And now i'm doing to mention the show he's got coming up on showtime called your honor. I believe i believe it is and it's not about a judge. It's not about a judge. It's not about no no. I hear it's very you know what jason sat when i asked him where he asked me where amanda his wife was. And i said your honor. I so jason. What a great guest he. He was very very generous to say. Yes to this We're happy to have him. We didn't get to a lot He's slinging booze. He's a big dodger. Fan yeah. He's only to fake fingers not three That was news Super good guy super great gap. Thanks jason for bringing them on. No no you're welcome bye-bye.

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Episode 97 - Police Corruption, Loaded Sodas & Groupies

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30:00 min | 3 weeks ago

Episode 97 - Police Corruption, Loaded Sodas & Groupies

"From mouthful media john lennon changed the world not just with his music but with his words his thoughts whose humour his hopes and dreams. John had so much more give but his time with us cut short. So what if. John was here today. What would you think of the world of music party politics. A join us and just imagine. This is talks with john savvy. I've been watching the telly again. Do you have the sound of. Oh gee. I think. I know what you're going to say but go really really pretty clairvoyant. That weird looks. I'm not sure. Derek ow dare chauvin. Yeah gino he got twenty two and a half that weird. What do you mean the half a. I've always wondered about that. Hell yeah. I don't know what the point is just rounded. But yeah you know he. He looks like when you have someone. That's become president and he looked them two years later. Their hair has gone white. Well he's aged a lot here. God and cup leaving with a year. It's been a year right. You know he got turned down for a new trial. That's what they asking for. Yeah he got turned down. Look he got turned down on. What's called a schultz hearing which is really interesting. Teach me assaults. Hearing is when you think there's been a juror that's done something wrong and while serving so they can toss it up essentially and they had a juror. Who had been seen at some of the black lives. Matter roy bench wearing shirts about breathing and they were turned down on schultz. Hearing for that which was really kind of interesting because it did suit the grounds for schultz. Saying you know it did. We can't blame the lawyer for trying job. Yeah and i find a loophole possible. I think he had good grounds on that one. I think unfortunately. And i'm just talking in. I'm not talking about what. Derek chauvin was convicted. I'm talking you know. Proper jurisprudence. didn't grant the scholz hearing because of possible reprecussions. Bright now first off. Look i do. He killed them. He did right now in the legal system. There's so many complex okasha and still. Even you know get this. It's twenty two and a half years but if you serve seven and a half you're right. Yeah yeah you're open to this kind of dismissal of several royal right now. I don't know if they did say with possibility of parole or without. I think it was possibility of peru exhibit breaking it down fifteen seven and a half years to get this fifteen years. You get that but you know they and you're right doubt now. Does the judge judge because if he judges wrong the public's gonna go crazy crazy well. They had extra police out in a lotta it just in case you know ever ever since the rodney king riots right people have been leary about even going back to oj and all because people are gonna. They gonna protect their race. Yeah yeah you know. The thing is a lot of people are predicting and i. I'm afraid they're probably it. Derek chauvin will never get out of jail because he'll be killed in jail. Yeah it's it's yeah. He didn't do the police much help. Well he's a cop. He was a cost. Everybody in jail hates the cop right. There's the race issue. How were they going to keep him safe. Because he was sentenced to present. He wasn't sentenced to be murdered. Well even when you look at rummage. Jeffrey epstein. Oh god i do found hung in the homes. I don't either. I don't either. I think it was a setup in side job to protect whatever needs to be protected. It was interesting did you. Did you hear. I didn't hear it. I read it of derek. Chauvin statement at the sentencing did you. I didn't catch all of it. I was watching his lawyer. Bits of it finally trying to show remorse morse arwood. It's remorse and that's key to do. You have feeling the other side right right or are you just f- in crazy. What derek chauvin said. He he apologized to the family but he said that he could not say today what he really wanted to say he said some things will become very evident shortly. That will tell more about what he would like to say today but that he couldn't see you got to wonder what in the world he meant. Are you talking about so. There's some kind of evidence or something going to be revealed in some way that he thinks the fed will help the family deal with what happened was what his. Just try to increase the criminality. George floyd and the drug usage and all that goes with that big. Because he wasn't doing it wasn't putting other lives in danger now not at that time but the shelvin said this was something that would help the family to cope so it almost seems like it would be something on the positive for george floyd. It was an interesting statement for him to may. It's a hard one to surmise. Because what is going to make the. Because i saw the brothers saying what were you thinking. Impact statements right thinking family impact statements. All i could think about with. Derek chauvin comment was that something would be revealed in the trials of the other officers who were there and are also facing device right. Yeah that's something may come out there. That hasn't been revealed before. That's all i can think of. That's all i could think of. Well i think the right verdict kale. Yeah unfortunately we can't put a knee on the head of a human being for nine plus minutes when they telling you. They caught breathing or not. You know they're not a threat to anyone. Come enough enough. There was a lot that didn't make sense that day with cop standing around and not intervening right just alive. Some of the things that they had a certain phraseology for you can't do things in front of children. Yeah yeah interesting. Because i know they did talk about an officer's fiduciary responsibility right and they did have a fiduciary responsibility to intervene. Yes they did have and they didn't. They were afraid of him. You could tell that he was the he was the kingpin in that. Yeah it look at that group please. Again he was senior officer. He was heads together and they knew it. Yeah so they weren't going to challenge their boss so to speak and in in trying to preserve their jobs. They've lost more than their jobs. No yeah they've lost their freedom gifts and god knows perhaps their own lives. Well you murder someone i know. Say it's okay and you gotta stop as a protector of law and yet to stop somebody for murdering so. I know it's again. This world is scott and so lots of strange stories. There was another one house in the tally. I don't know if i understand this. There was a woman. Uh-huh who had a home in new jersey k. And these guys broke in their part of a moroccan claimed my goodness sovereign rights to her home to her home in new jersey and she got locked out. What honest to god. Look that's crazy. I'm telling you it's an american woman's she doesn't know these guys look that sovereign rights and the police she tried. She tried to bring a locksmith. Wait a minute live here. And they wouldn't allow it back in. I wonder if there's some moroccan claimed the land. It's on or something like this. Oh my god knits. You never can win. What he here's one. Here's a crazy thing. That i heard and i hadn't even thought of this. You know we've we've talked about you. Know how how land lords homeowner apartment owners and all going crazy with this. No eviction thing. No rent being paid. I hadn't thought about this. But i saw we had on the about the other day. There were people john who had had purchased a home just before the pandemic hit and the closing sometimes take a month or four or five days right right. That's ninety days on how you structure the closing took place after the pandemic so these people who just bought this house have not been able to get the old homeowners out. They can't evict them bright. They can't demand rent so here. They are paying a mortgage. There was this one couple. Maybe in the thirties had a little child. They had bought their first home finally got their first home run. They can't get the previous owners out. They are living at the husband's mom's house. Lord the husband wife baby in one bedroom and they have heard over a year because they can't get okay so a person who so. What's the story of the occupants. Then they don't have to leave but i mean are they just doing it to spite the fact or are they saying well. We can't move because we're we're going to go to the pandemic well. They got paid off on. The house is like i get it. That's a very complex. So they're just sitting. Let muddle god sitting on that money wakes while this other couple is paying property tax and the mortgage and homeowner's insurance and all those losses. So you know when it comes to home owning right. I was telling you earlier. Yeah about my hypnotherapist. Whose fire insurance on. The home went from two thousand to seven thousand more than three times a month. Yeah and again nothing. She can do about it. Nothing she do about it. No i understand that you know we. We were in the path of the station. Fire right right and it. It didn't get into our neighborhood but it came darned close right right and we had insurance. We'd had our homeowner's insurance forever and ever never made a claim. They cancelled us after the fire they cancelled us. And you know i raised. What of course because they'd been paying for ten years you here's what they told me okay. We realized overexposed. Yes in your area. another one. There was the law is made to protect the insurance company. Now we got lucky right because we found an insurance agent. We asked around our neighborhood because we weren't the only ones who had gotten kicked out but we asked. Who do you have. who do you have. Who do you have people who still have their insurance. And we were led to this one insurance agent and we got a new policy and it wasn't horribly expensive. Dang lucky you're all looking. Yeah because while descending is that when she asked well what do we do the guess. What the responsive insurance company was. We don't care move. Talk yeah move to an area that isn't close to a wilderness. That might burn right. Because we're she's at it's the part woodland hills canoga park if you will. It's kind of in the hills right so you've got yeah trees around now. It's because of the pacific palisades fire that you saw go down lately because the insurance companies going broke paying what they're supposed to be in business for right. I mean that's why it was being business that that's how insurance is supposed to work. I know and it's just it's just rotten. After she's paid for ten years we've been paying never claimed any they had all that money and they just go now. Get out now. Rope can help you go to that. That's why the state does have some policy but to help because they know the insurance companies do that. But it's a bare-bones paul. She couldn't go. I wonder why maybe because so many others applied. That could be john. Yeah i i've lately been better off when i had no money. Yoke can still sell cows for hundreds of thousands of dollars surplus. it's not good business. Not too worried but i just it just seems that the more you play by the rules and you try to do everything right. The more you get well this kicked. That's what america has seemed to become lately is driving around. I got myself a frappuccino up. Just wanna got killed. When i like. Which one do you like vanilla. But i got the vanilla coffee cafe. Vanilla is that what that's my fav- oh that's what goes today is great. I know because they put cough coffee in it. Yes they do. And it gives it a certain distinctive wavering. Don't get with just the vanilla. Bean iraq the not quite as sweet as the vanilla bean. Right it takes a little sweet edge off it. Well it gives it a little edge of a different kind of a different kind different grind darker flavor. Which is really. That's my super. Fay ads do they did. They were they want. You told me had the call that kind of like a certain time of the year. Oh i missed it. Yeah shoot white pistachio for for what holiday. Oh not day saint patrick's day lean. Bet you that was it. Time yet was funny. It's been about three months since you stop something so good because then the anticipation makes you when he comes back. You buy a whole bunch. Yeah yeah that's what. I'm glad i remember this vanilla. Yeah cafe they've ella. Cafes bonilla repechage trying to explain to the girl you know it's like the stress of feel to it. Yes oh she figured it out. She's right because the minute i taste is oh yeah. That's the good one like that. I love me coffee. You know that. I know that and you know what i like to sodas dr peppers i liked art ever well. I know because when i fetch couple burgers the other day working on your dolls. Funny you said dr pepper. She likes art pepper. Why did you get dr pepper that day. No i got a diet coke but because of my diabetes. I've concert dr pepper book but not at the. Oh yeah yeah yeah. they don't. they don't have a staple. yeah everything else. You've got to dig around lucky. Yeah you know what i'm saying. Well i'll get you some diet and put it in the studio dr pepper. The upper tend to four. You know what that means on the bottle tend to. I know it's on the clock right. So what do you think that means keeps you up all day. No it means that. Like a medicinal dosage. You should drink it. Dr pepper at ten two and four. Because what does it have in it or now it is. It has caffeine right but prune juice. A so i get how that i think. I knew that a long time ago. I think dr pepper. I think i did other words. You know like it was supposed to be medicinal right. Ten to four makes sense when you drink it now wondering way back when because it's been around a long long time. I wonder what it used to have instead of caffeine because coke used to have pain yeah right cola seven used to have benzedrine which is it does the same thing. It's an upper. it's an upper. That's right yeah you're right. Yeah so. I wonder dr pepper had before they had to take it out and have to find out because all of those things were you know totally fine back back in the day before. Suddenly they weren't which is kind of weird to Weird things weird. I went to see this everley brothers show. Yeah you were. You talked about that. And it was fascinating as promoter right right see. That's the price is right. You're getting out and about. I know well and i performed the night before those infamous beat us. You know them. I know them very well is still trying to work out our music. I would've come. But i'm not quite coming out to clubs come out to the. I think we're playing his senior sensor somewhere. I don't think i qualify john. Thank you for that for that. You don't have to be a senior to go. i'm still. I'm not ready yet. I'm still hiding out or if he stayed in your car and turned it on the fm. That was the way they presented. What they're broadcasting it over the radio. I think so not no. I felt like like a like a drive in movie right right. If i'm gonna go. I wanna go on watch you and all the girls falling at your feet touching me. If possible. strange to talk to you about this. I don't want to insult anybody you know. I'm not that way. No you're you're very sweet that no you are be. I can also be a juice. Yes sir all right okay. So i haven't been out in a while right. Not without but i have these these few people the just. Don't they realize that there are times where you need to be thinking or working and yet. They're all over here of the female persuasion also. Yes they were. i mean. i've even had people talk over me when i'm trying to record something shite. Don't you know working here. But but yeah this is more the groupie kind of thing it was totally groupie kind of. I know you're talking about you're talking about that. Come on well now first off. They haven't seen you in person in sixteen months or something along those lines almost like like a moth. Might they just found any. You could just see it. i'd be. I was onstage setting things up maybe sitting at the bar wiggle off walk by way there was one else. They were going right nowhere else to that time. And it's just in a woman explain. It hurt anyone's feelings. When i'm not saying i like i said with jesus bets. A greater come on frankly. I've always thought that girls who do that. There's just something kinda missing all right It's called fame by association. But yeah it's okay if i am able to talk to you. And maybe put my arm around jew. Okay then that makes me more important than that girl over there. Who can't do that big. She doesn't know you know me but but she's gonna try later. Just be no. It's it's unfortunately what girls who tend to be. I mean there are fans who love you or performers. They wanna go and see you. And they're very respect showed very nice right and they thank you after the show. I think yeah cheering the music fan. All right and that's perfectly fine to be a fan of someone that's fine right but a fan. I know exactly. And i wanted to be acknowledged as a fan and you also want to be courteous. I loved your show. What are you without fans anyway. But then there's the groupies in these are the ones who take it a step further and they want more than anything to be close to you for you to acknowledge them. They make fantasies in their head. About how close you to the fan. Matic's well i think that works towards broadway show called fanatics should know there. I mean gosh there. There was a band years ago that i lived with some of the members and these girls will do. Oh that's right. You had a boyfriend. There was a big shot. They park in front of the house. They follow us to the grocery store. They leave nasty notes on on our cars like he's really in love with me. You better leave we back in the days of beatlemania. I mean i remember george telling patsy. Listen this is going to be the last song leave. Yeah before it's over. I get that you pummeled stampeded on literally and look out for that especially liverpool bills lookout. Don't don't knock you down. Well these these girls me. They believe in their minds. You know the they're the rightful owners and that scares me more than anything well. They absolutely do because they've created quite a little fantasy world we had to on. I forgot what to as were but again the early tourists but young girls especially about dangerous than the older ones. Because you know they don't have boundaries no right now they're more hedonistic there about themselves. You go is good way of putting it. but we we'd have steep them inlottery bass. No seriously whether it costumes. Brunette wigs. Dark glasses and yet they'd still be found out. Oh yeah i remember sin when she would be pushing julian around in his prime. The goes you. John's wife should know. Oh yeah just to protect. Yeah and the baby. The baby right. Oh yeah they they don't they i. There's two things they'll do. They'll i try to be friends with the girlfriend or the wife. Sure because that would get them a step closer if that doesn't work which it rarely does then. They start getting nasty. I remember so many times having drinks dumped in my lap. Really at clubs. How rude girl would walk by and just keeps and sorry so got in the habit of sitting there with my hand always holding my drink but you know the funniest thing i think about groupies and there's a lot of funny things is even if you're nasty to them if if you john o. Nasty to them. And i mean really vicious nasty. They'd be back because negative attention is better than no attention at all. I remember this one time with band and we were. They played disneyland. Sure and lived up in the valley had a good hours drive and there was this one carload. I remember all four of these girls that always followed them home. They had a plan. The guys had a plan had a plan. And this is up in all pre thought out what was going on until it happened and They driving a van game band and stuff. Yeah got off somewhere around the city of commerce on surface streets on of course the girls are in hot pursuit and the guys drove into a cul de sac. Know this year and made a quick turn so the girls were in the back of the cul de sac. The guys were blocking their way out and open the back of the van and they had eggs and they had tomatoes and they had all whatever. Yeah and totally annihilated these coma gone. Yeah yeah and then took off. And i remember this day. Well that'll take care of them for a while about twelve hours. They were out in front of the house the next day. The girls ten care the took the abusing loved. It is something to talk about this. I got to tell you this. When you're there was this one girl. I knew when i was in high school. And she worked at the mall. I worked at right. And she was not unattractive girl. Yeah but she had jones for bobby goldsboro honey. I miss you. How that saw oo right. People say out biggest grow people say it's according to. I think it's beautiful. I love now one day. We took a break together at the mall okay. We took our breaks at the same time because she wanted to take me over the may company and showing me something. Okay all right so we go over the company in the mall and we go into the costume jewelry section. Not the fine jewelry not the whatever right and she points out this rain but it's honk in big stone and right and he says what do you think and i said what am i supposed to. Well that's my engagement. I said what and she said she said. Bobby picked it out and he goes peru himself. The lakewood mall. it's so valuable. They didn't want to leave in the fine jewelry talks with john stars. Tim piper is john lennon and features tammy tra- heel anders produced for mouthful media by february. Jerome productions jim piper offers up his original songs influenced by his love of the beatles. John lennon on his first cd release. Now hear this available at talks with john dot com. 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Eat Your Beans - The Bean

Eat Your Beans

14:00 min | 4 months ago

Eat Your Beans - The Bean

"What's rattling in that jar you're holding there, Beverly? You mean this? In my hands, I hold the star of today's program. We're honoring the amazingly versatile bean or frijol. on today show. You're listening to eat your beans podcast where we're digging into mexican food history every week. Join hosts melody. And beverly seto as they trace the origins and cultural significance of foods integral to mexican cuisine blimp adventure. Eager beans podcast. I'm melody in arts and culture journalist who loves mexican food and i love it equally. I'm beverley. I had a brief stint as a cook. But i'll just leave that story for a future episode anyway. I found that. I'd rather eat food than prepare it. Beverly and i are sisters for coming to you from our little kitchen in the san fernando valley the valley and of course we're not alone in sharing appreciation for mexican food mexican food one of the most geographically. Diverse cuisines is popular around the globe. Here in california and the southwest region of the united states mexican food is ubiquitous word. Dedicating an entire podcast to this delicious fair because it's yummy flavors warrant it as a personal note. Beverly and i come from a family with a farming heritage so in a way. This podcast project is also a nod to the labor of our great grandfather grandfather and mother. Hey that was nice. So were kicking things off focusing the first episode of the podcast to the humble bean. That's right beans are bounds a phone mexico and our steeple ingredient within countless dishes. It's really the cost. Effective nature of these lagoons that have made them vital staple during periods of social conflict and war when families can afford or have access to me. They've relied on a pot of beans to feed many mouths here on the beans podcast. We believe that besides the obvious sustenance food provides us one of the most valuable aspects that we gain from eating delicious meal especially when shared with others is experience whether it happens on a sidewalk in the parking lot or inside a store for every podcast episode. Where can people there to share some of their fondest food memories with us. Well this we. We went out looking for folks to ask them. How do you like your beans. This is what they had to share with us. We is diane from canoga park california. The reason that are like beans is because you can have them for breakfast lange dinner or as an appetizer. They're also healthy. They are high on fiber protein. An iron my favorite beans black beans pinto beans and my favorite dish would be in the hall lavas which is like an inch e lava except instead of the sauce of or green. It's actually mad beans so hi my name. is derek. Thirty one years old. And i may chef when it comes to beans beans are proving and beans. And they're my favorite for so many reasons. They're soft they're buttery. they're also really healthy. Contain a lot of fiber iron magnesium potassium and protein as far as cooking the peruvian beans about an hour when soap ahead of time and you could also soap them overnight for approximately eight hours. Anthony h. thirty seven from reseda california. And i like beans. I like The lot traditional. But i do dig when they're refried especially with sour cream. Beverly yes now. Let me ask you well. How do you like her beings. How do you like to eat beans while a raw vegan have been eating vegan diet for seven years and adopted a raw vegan diet recently. You don't eat any cooked food. You don't eat refried. Beans nor big beans rob. Vegans have a few options of eating sprouted beans or rob. Bean sprouts folks. Being third to hydrate ones sounds plan. An awful through actually really nutritious. I i know. I know i'm actually just teasing now. We're going to transfer to little segment. I like to call bean. Or no being where i list a variety of pantry staples and you get to tell me if they're being or not ready. Oh i was born for this. Let's start with an easy. One then peeve appea- it comes in a pot obviously so when you grab the dinner menu at the restaurant and go for the split pea soup. You're actually having beans okay. How barker bonds those. Those are definitely beans. I love ghorban. Ceos they're also commonly known as chick peas in fact one of the crops are mother's family grows in the state of michoacan in mexico. Ar-kar ponchos most folks. Just eat them. Plain out of the pod just like look. Did you know. Forms of domesticated beans have been carbon dated. This method has revealed that they're actually over ten thousand years old now. The modern being cultivated. Today is native to the americas. Well that makes sense. I mean a huge part of the mesoamerican diet is comprised of beans. Some of my favorite meals growing up tended to always have been snuck in their mind to obviously. Did you know that the vining plant the silas full garth. Essentially the mother of the modern bean can actually syllabi found growing in the wild in certain parts of mexico. That's definitely something. I'd like to try now. Of course they're plenty of other varieties the oldest cultivator of the common being was found in peru and dates back to eight thousand years ago. The temporary bean has been cultivated for over five thousand years in the sonoran desert of mexico where residents still enjoy it to this day. Well there are obviously a large variety of beans all distinctive to their region. What's really cool. Is that due to their dry nature. They are easily transport and variations have been traded around the world for thousands of years before early. European settlers had arrived in the americas europe. A large had only been exposed to father beans. Those are definitely not my favorite. After making contact with native americans settlers brought back some beans with them. And we're able to introduce them to the european diet. So who do. We have to think for those yucky. British breakfast beans. Well baked beans. The appeared today in the traditional english full breakfast first appeared in england in nineteen o one and we're actually considered a luxury item. Really yeah nowadays. Heinz beans are the most popular among the brits with over half a million cans being consumed every day in fact the queen of england herself grace. The hines bean factory with the visit. Back in two thousand nine. The factory even holds a royal warrant so the common bean has at this point migrated all over the world. Immigrants who carried seeds from europe grew them and cultivated to them to adapt with a look climate at this point. Regional beans have become something of an heirloom. A few companies have actually managed to mass reproduce. Some of these regional heirlooms me some present day heirlooms if you actually take the time to really analyze their colors and straight shins. You'll see that. They're pretty unique. That's right pretty cool Tracing history and stories from light variation of being to being if you think about it each beans shares. Its own story with us. We're ingesting history right and no culture embraces history more than mexico. Mexico is at the center of a ball with it being the origin. Place of mo- shelled beans beans held a lot of and continue to do so in their way aspects often ask for them as tribute payment from conquer peoples today. Beans are common denominator in bringing people together from every socioeconomic class. Everybody can bond over beams. Wait up break down class barriers beans. I mean i think jack had a right way which jack jack you know jack and the beanstalk i mean beans. The are magical. Oh my gosh But you're onto something there today. Black and pinto beans dominate mexican cuisine. But a trip to any theon keys or mexican market will prove that mexicans july and over two hundred varieties. I wonder if they have a punch card where you can check off a bean every time you consume it until you try them all. Actually i think i'd like to partake in this challenge. Should we do watch out. Beans and restrooms were here to try them all. Oh okay i was joking. Well partly would be pretty neat would be to see how regional beans are incorporated in local cuisine. Black beans are most common in mexico city and in regions and in southern regions of the country with their a couple of years ago. I delighted in some delicious more yet. This complete with melted cheese and some black beans yum. Try those. I was sitting right next to you at the restaurants. Oh that's true. Yeah definitely there. But i think i was to trans by my food. Yeah you tend to do that. Thank you for joining us this week. Ron baseba stop by and say hi have any common frog or requests for future episodes. We wanna hear those to join us next time on your being.

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Craig Conover On What Hes Learned Since Southern Charm Season 1 & His Hookup with a Bravoleb (Instagram Live)

Bravo TV's Daily Dish

21:45 min | 1 year ago

Craig Conover On What Hes Learned Since Southern Charm Season 1 & His Hookup with a Bravoleb (Instagram Live)

"Hi. I'm Megan Zebra and I'm Eric J Maxx the daily dish. Bravo's official podcast. So after an all day marathon on Bravo of southern charm season one. I hosted an instagram life with Gregg. Conover we talk all about what it was like when season one. I came out who he's still in touch with who he is in still in touch with plus if he single. Here's that interview. Hi Hello Everyone. Have you been watching the southern charm marathon all day season one? Because that's what we're going to be talking about. I am Megan Sikora. I'm a CO host of the daily Dish Bravo's official podcast and Cregg conover. Love of my life is going to be talking the first season with us. Everyone say hello to the beautiful Craig. Canoga Park you. Good luck this on time and everything. You see my favorite right. Now thank you. How are you good? How is quarantine going for you? I mean without sounding like insensitive. I'm very fort leg. It's not bad I I'm trying my hardest to Help as many people as possible. I'm aware of the struggles. But for me personally affir- I dunno. I if I'm being a straight shooter without the temptation to go out right now I'm away more productive versus and structure and my like my daily structures. Just a lot better with being forced to stay at home. Yeah so. Have you been watching the marathon today season one so I I've I've gone back and forth throughout the years of watching and not watching with sometimes it's a little little intends to watch but I did I did watch Today and it's funny. I mean we look like eighties. It's it's wild is it's crazy. It hasn't been that long but it just feels like I'm watching a different group of people. Yeah Yeah I've gotten a I've got a bunch of funny messages today. Even from my different Different shows and It seems like a lot of people are watching today. But it's funny. Because Austin had never seen seasons one through three when he joined so I actually showed him a little bit of versus on the other day. And it's just it's funny going back. I saw that episode. Where today was when I would ever ships else after like we made up like. I'm earning the most ridiculous I mean. It's funny you know. It's it's crazy to have this path documented. So it's neat. I want to kind of go back to what it was like the first time it aired and what went through your mind because I mean you always have an idea of what your settlement but then to see the product out in the world has to be such a crazy feeling. Yeah I so I'll may get like say a little A. I don't know what I'm saying. I make me so when this all started. None of us knew we weren't in the film World Entertainment World. We didn't know what any of the terms meant. So and I remember. I was in target or something or Walmart. What do you call me? We're Greenland I was A. I don't know what that means and then cameras show up and you just you're so role to it And then you know. We didn't know we figured if those film does by the on. But we don't know everything that goes into it and then when that first commercial came on the first teaser was wild because I was doing well school at the time and all of a sudden you're on international television and people are like. Oh My Gosh. This is a real thing and it was really cool. Really exciting of you. Know kind of googling like this show and seeing what people were saying about it and then I remember back then we would get the copy of episode on like a hard. Dvd and the mailman would come to my house before chests. Shout would run down the street and neither of US could sit while launching it so stand next to each other the whole time and just watch and then I you know shop would kill me if I didn't say it because it's it's funny. I can make fun of myself that first year Dvr It and then my house like everyone would always you know? We always have late nights at my house or pre parties and like I would put it on or whatever but only because it was so bizarre. That was a real thing like it wasn't like any of us. Were looking for a big break. It's just like Oh look. We're on now so yeah. Oh how allowing changes after it. So it's not on in the background of your party parties anymore. I will tell you though. Being single on television is a lot easier like I noticed that the the seasons where I'm single I can watch them and like laugh myself and stuff. It's when you're in a relationship on camera that it's that's the ones that you really don't want to watch back there. Eight Li- inches a lot. It's a different feeling because you you you're not in control it's just it's it's more of a negative. I don't know for me. It's tough watching your relationship. Play out because you kind of like with like the block that stuff out. Successful people don't sleep all day. You sometimes exhibit loser behavior by doing that like I don't want to come home after a fourteen hour day and you still be in bed. I don't want that's probably because I was trading offshore market until five in the morning. Because I could because I didn't have to wake up for anything but you know when you're not fighting on camera and it's a little little better but it is fun going back and watching with my buddies have never seen it 'cause they get to hear my near rationing of it and it makes fun fun time. Brabham confessional says we love single crag so thank you confessional for everyone just teen now. We're talking about the season one marathon. That's been airing all day and I saw comment that said that Andy Cohen said in his story. I guess today he thinks you look better today than you even did season one. I've saw he does. He did a fun commentary. He's watching He was watching this morning and it was really nice yet. He said which I look. I was not for the facial hair for a long time because I was used to being cleaned shaved for the law. Were on and it took me a long time for me personally to get used to it. But it's so well received that I can't. I'm not like it's just every there's not been anyone that says they liked me better. You know clean-shaven so I had to get used to it and I'm okay with it. But he said you know he said I was. You know I look like a baby back then and then he was into shop in the prior. Season's His take on. It was funny. Well I you WANNA know. Are you quarantining with any special lady that we saw no? I've been good for the last month. The beginning We all before you know. It's never too late to take it seriously. In the beginning down here in Charleston we were definitely it just took longer to get here and we went out to all sins be Tau City hid from all of us. He has a house on. Keough Elliott four bedroom house. And we're all like. How long have you agnes? And he's like Oh you know forever and I was like why are why. Don't we come here anymore and we all have to get out there and that was really fun but that was like five weeks ago and ever since. Then it's just in Austin he's my my corner Dean Buddy of but yeah I I found. There's himself they were filming and stuff that I can't really get into kind of been moving around Because I was traveling so much this summer I finally settled into a place of uncomfortable at for the time. Being and so I've kind of just set up. You know sewing area. I've been cooking a lot and Making the most avid but now no quarantine girlfriends At this point well. So if you've been hanging out with Austin ally is Austin with Madison. I don't know a day of the week is it. It's it's every other day but it's it's we're definitely on a lot friendlier spot. We were Last year we've Kinda just accepted it and it is what it is but it really it you know it really does vary on on the day of the week. So when he's when he's not with her you know and then when they aren't the other you know hanging out most of the time but you know we we share custody of all the at the moment that's good. Do you feel like there's something that's blocking you from being truly happy or preventing you from achieving your goals with over three thousand. Us licensed therapist in all fifty states. Better help online. Counseling is here for you. Users can connect with counselors and a safe private and convenient online setting. You no longer have to worry about meeting with the counselor in person with four available communication modes text chat phone and video. You'll be able to make appointments to your desktop laptop and cell phone go your own time and pace while speaking to licensed counselors who specialized in depression stress anxiety relationship sleeping trauma grief and more anything. You say is confidential. 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It just didn't work out on the show but if I'm in L. A. Like I would love to run endure but yeah right now. We try to keep in touch every few months but but I mean she's still friends with. I think chef talk soared to so. We'll emily exton just asked how is chaps dog little Craig doing. He's doing good. He's probably confused. Why the humans haven't left is housing in so long but where shut lives out on his beach. It's kind of quarantine itself you can't get to chef's house without an ID saying you live out there. And so they have a little more outside freedom so I think cripes enjoying. You're getting outside and probably evening walks on the beach and stuff like that so but I did get to see him. Couple of weeks ago Sharp drops off to the Alison. Craig jumped out of the car. It was fun. Reuniting Oh someone's asking what's going on with land in the last attack the land that's been a little longer. I love into death. I'm just trying to think of the last time I talked to her. There might have been some instagram messages. Saying like miss you or something or congrats or you know I you know. Maybe she was on a trip and I said something but I haven't talked to her phone Quite a while. It's early sometimes. It just doesn't work. You know this show. It's definitely you know it. It doesn't say anything about Emma's people just you have to be willing to be transparent and balls to the wall on just commit and sometimes it just doesn't work for everyone not everyone gets it right. I mean it does have to be hard any regrets from season. One just like one. Is there one episode in particular that hard for you to watch? I will the first time that I drank. Then I showed up to a scene had been drinking wise the toughest dinner on Catherine on enjoy which I feel like kind of solidified my place in it where Catherine I got are are yelling match sleeping with three people at this table in. The course of three weeks isn't class so please don't make comments about class. Really Three people in name only lose I don't know if I have any regrets from season one because I really just went balls to the wall. I think what we're my regrets. Kennedy came from were more season. Two because what happens is season one. There's not too much cutting that goes on at eight. It's just you guys and then you really let your guard down season two and then that comes out and then you're like Oh God now I think yeah sees one. I was just I was myself. I'll have to watch more of this region. It's probably stuff that I blocked out in my head. But why is there something you can think of? No I need. I just always curious because I think sometimes bravo liberties you guys like. You are so hyper focused on something that you're embarrassed about but for us it's just entertaining. That's definitely and that's what I discovered as we went on in the seasons was the best thing that I learned was. 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Alzheimer's screaming at each other walking through the door. They're like. It was hilarious and I got all these messages being like. Why don't you talk at some routes on Mike guys took that House by storm? But it's not our show so you can't and we didn't film against there's you know you can't air too much of it but I remember I walked in and I saw jewels page and also providing so I went over to them and I was like. Hey let's do water libraries right. We're in so kyle page myself. Enrolls disdain on the waterside time and then I think as the day went on jewels and I ended up kissing on top of the water slide. I think they didn't air any of this stuff and Shep was a mess and he was like I'm out of here in Austin. Went with him to take care of him and I was like guys you drug needed. His and I'm having a blast so I stayed and I ended up like wearing Carlin. Kyle's close out and I give the towards the end of the night before we go out and then came back to where are housewives and then you know I spent a summer in. New York's jewels out for a couple of weeks. And then you know. Whenever I was in New York we would hang out and we just had a great time. We're still close friends. She actually text messaged me today because she saw their unions here when she had never seen like those early episodes. And she was like you're confessional just popped up on my TV and you look like you know a little kid but yes Really close it by going to New York. We hang out but you know nothing serious keeping it casual love it. I mean that's I. I think there's a right way to do that. And you know I travel so much separate now that it's fun we'll go out and you know she knows a lot of our friends now and Yeah I will say I kyle from Summer House on the podcast and I asked him who parties harder this other charm guys or the vendor pump rules guys and what he said was the southern charm. Guys Hardy harder when the cameras go down. That's probably true. I mean they vander pump Arthur. Amazing I mean they let it all out there like we we try our hardest to let it all out there but they they really have nothing to lose in the back of their heads and like. I don't know how to put it but I'm just saying like you know Stasi punching kristen in the face back then. Injects getting punched men fighting like I mean they go balls the wall. I'd say well here shepherd explains it like this. Our cameras go down at like nine though. That's issue so if the cameras came out with does it's not like we would do anything. Differently Arch Cameras. 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Vinyl Snob EP. 14: HiFi Stereo Store

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Vinyl Snob EP. 14: HiFi Stereo Store

"I'm Dave Whitaker. And this is vinyl snob. The average guy that wants to buy a reasonably priced hi FI. There's very few shops left. That's Chris Larson owner of North Coast audio. In this episode we stopped by something very rare in the brick and mortar retail business. These days a stereo shop what I try to get them into as well. You know you can build something over time that you're GonNa last a lot longer and you're going to be a lot happier with and while visiting New York. We stopped by record city in Brooklyn all of that plus Vinyl News in this episode. First Vinyl News as the vinyl record industry continues to enjoy record breaking sales what of the largest vinyl pressing Plants Rainbow Records in southern California has shut down the new spread quickly around the industry with Rainbow President Steve Sheldon delivering that news. The issue the price of the current location in Canoga Park California with sheldon pointing to a massive rent hike. It was either accept. The increase or relocate the plant. Both options were too expensive in December rainbow. President Steve Sheldon delivered the news in an e mail. It read dear valued customers after well over a year of trying to negotiate an agreement with our landlord to keep rainbow on Eaton Street. I am sorry to say that. Unfortunately we have been unsuccessful. Our landlord apparently has other plans for this building and has demanded that we vacate the space. The email continues. It is with incredible sadness that I must announce to you that as of January thirty first twenty twenty we must be out of this building and rainbow after eighty years will no longer be in business. Joining us from Los Angeles is Rainbow Records. President Steve Sheldon Steve. Welcome back to the program. How you doing? I'm okay so the had to be out on the thirty first which was wet last Friday. How did it go? We made it It was pretty amazing. Forty five days earlier we were operational and a fifty thousand square foot building full of equipment and everything needed to To run that equipment and with the our incredible team we were able to get out and the presses prices went to united record pressing in Nashville. They took all of them. And how many? How many did you have an operation? At the time we were running fifteen we had Eighteen and they they have them all. Those couldn't have been easy to move with all the plumbing and electrical and mechanical involved. Like to ask you a couple questions and let's get a little history on the company that was started in nineteen thirty nine by Jack Browne. He was quite an entrepreneurial. He was great with ideas. And then I think Jack's strong point was he was always able to find good people to fulfill his ideas. He wasn't necessarily a real. You Know Mechanical Guy. Or you know able to put his ideas together but he he had a good knack for hiring the right people and he hired you in nineteen seventy one. And what was your first job with a company so I was going to college and what I wanted to do. My interests were in printing And my a dreams and thoughts were to Own My own printing company when I got out of college and while I was going to college I Was Printing record labels for Jack and when I got out he Asked me if I would consider staying on and I I kind of I. I was always machine's always interested me and manufacturing and stuff so I said sure I'll give it a shot and Forty nine years later there. I was now you started at in seventy one. And where was the facility? At that time it was ten. Forty one north loss pomace in Hollywood right near Santa Monica Boulevard and highland and then in seventy four the facility. Move to a larger building in Santa Monica. So when when I started with them in seventy one And then when we moved to Santa Monica we moved all the manual presses and then he got semiautomatic right during the move so we move some manuals and then some semi automatic and then in nineteen seventy seven. He started replacing those with the totally automatic record press and the manual presses. You literally put the Puck in and pulled the lever by hand. Yeah Manual Press. Was you literally pulled out the dye? It was on a greased plate and would slide out You put the label on the top the label on the bottom. You had an extruder next to you and an operator would run to presses at a time. The extruder is what extruded vinyl and then he'd put them big lava vinyl into the press. Put back close it. And then he flip a switch and they were timers so it would time the cycle. The cycle was probably about thirty five seconds or so. While that one was pressing he would turn around and Do the same thing with the press behind him and What DIFFERENT JOBS? You said you started With Jack at Rainbow Printing labels. What other jobs did you have with the company? Jack needed somebody in Santa Monica. While that plant was being built it took about a year to build. Well he was running the Hollywood plan he needed. Somebody who could just oversee and he could communicate with about what was going on and you had questions or needed to communicate with contractors. Whatever so he moved to print shop over to Santa Monica I and he moved me over there and I kind of oversaw and was his conduit for communication while the plant was being built shortly after that the company that made our our plates or metal plates was a plating operation and they announced they were closing up and without notice so jack took over the payroll and the employees and we moved that to Santa Monica and I quickly learned pleading with the help. There was a company down in Gardena called Greg Lee playing. I went over there and learn quickly and I moved the plating over to Santa Monica and set that up and I made plates. And then I oversaw the plant. I was Kinda plant manager and then I got more involved in the office. And then ultimately became general manager and Sin President and win did When did you become president and when Jack Retire So Jack? Never really retired. I became general manager in eighty six. Jack at that point wanted to do a lot of traveling. He was already seeing eighty six. He was seventy three and he did do a lot of traveling. I kinda ran operations and then I became president when he passed away in two thousand three need. You must have gotten along well to has spent so much time together. Yeah he was a he was a great guy and we did. We did get along Fantastically It was it was great for him to have me and it was great for me to have him. It was it worked out really well and you had that huge memorabilia collection right off the lobby What happened to all of that stuff? The history and a lot of that stuff. We are setting up a wall at United in Nashville with the history of rainbow and a lot of the memorabilia of Rainbow United recognizes the importance of rainbow over the years and wants to keep that legacy alive. And what does the future hold for you? Are you involved with the the move to Nashville at all? No right now looks like once I get the warehouse cleaned out. Which is we with Closing the plant. I moved my office over. We have another building about a mile away Which was a warehouse. And I moved my office over there and I moved I have ten employees over here and our goal is now to Get THIS WAREHOUSE. Empty within the next ninety days thirty still business things to clean up and collect accounts receivable. And do all the things you gotTa do when you're closing up a business right. Donald the is and cross all the t's Yep you played host to us a couple of times down there when you welcomed Vinyl Snob and graves a great tour and seemed like a wonderful place to work and everybody was having a good time and you enjoyed it but I guess after forty nine years with all of it. It's just you're kind of done. Yeah I guess I am but it's not exactly it. The plan I had for going out. I mean I was my my plan was I would have succeeded. Had not been for the landlord but the plan was to sell the operation Continue it Work for whoever the new owners were and I had a couple people very interested And we're very close to a deal when the landlord kinda pulled some surprises on us But you know my my plan and goal was to sell the operation keep the Rainbow. Brand alive keep the employees employed and slowly phased myself out over a couple year period But not everything goes as planned so the Saudi. You know the saddest part for me is the Rainbow Name and and the employees. I mean that that Like you said it was a good place to work. And at our hike we had The maximum think was in two thousand nine we had one hundred and almost centered and forty employees. When we shut down we had ninety two And I would say over. Fifty percent of those worked for over fifteen years and probably a good twenty five percent of those worked over twenty twenty five years So it was like a family and that was that was tough. Yeah well you guys did some some great work and it's a wonderful piece of history one of the few pressing plants that as you said win. Cd's came on you. You invested in that but you never got rid of the presses which I think was something you said. Both you and Jack Ahead agreed that There may be a time when we WANNA press vinyl again. So let's not get rid of the which is what so many other facilities did and live to regret it. Yeah they did all right. Well I wish you I wish you well Sir and I thank you for taking the time and for for all the years all the vinyl. That's my collection that came through the Rainbow Facility and I I wish you luck in retirement. And of course luck to all the rainbow employees and If the right like to check back in a couple of months and see how the shutdown went and how you're doing found good Steve Sheldon President of Rainbow Records in Canoga Park California. It truly was a bad week for vinyl two days after we recorded the interview with Steve and six days after rainbow closed its doors Apollo Masters located in banning. California was completely destroyed by fire. The company is one of two in the world that makes lacquers which are used in the creation of vinyl records. The other company in D. C. located in Japan provides a similar product but according to sources was already having trouble meeting demand. Apollo Masters issued the following statement. We are uncertain of our future at this point and are evaluating our options as we try to work through this difficult time for some insight on what this could mean to the future of the vinyl record industry. We're joined by Ron. Mcmaster retired mastering engineer. Who spent thirty seven years behind the cutting Leith at Capitol Records in Hollywood Ron? Welcome back to the program thank you David. Great debris here so just refresh our memory what is a lacquer and why is it's so vital to the production of vinyl records or Al on a lack I lack or is a Either a ten inch or twelve inch or fourteen inch Which is used to manufacture The vinyl master so you you have a very thin piece of aluminum and then it's coated with lacquer basically a lacquer finish like you would see enough paint type thing and then You cut the music on that. Then that goes to the plant within a very specific amount of time then in turn they they create Stanford you can maybe get about thirty thousand pressings out at one lacquer now. I don't know what it it's still all very up in the air but having ringo out of the scene that puts more pressure on the other few plants that exist already so You got two different equations going on here and neither one of them looked very good for for under slice of the business. It was doing so well and to To refresh a lacquer it has a one time use yet right so capital for years did work for everybody so if you have lacquers in storage if you have them on the shelf are they going to be a little more particular as to what gets cut. And what doesn't to me? Just recently earned. Yeah now there is a there is a second plant in the world manufacturing lacquers but it's It's a rather small plant in Japan. I believe in from what I read. Apollo masters in Banning California had Basically supplied about eighty percent of the lacquers used in the world. So any thoughts that the the Plant in Japan may be able to step up production like it. People were saying that they already having difficulty getting some of its day ordered not the method that has come from depend. Let's refresh people's minds. This is technology that dates back to the forties and fifties right. It's not like you can go out and buy another one of these machines to make the Lakers. Oh no they're not even made anymore even if he had somebody sit down and then draw glands and make it. That's not a fast process. You know we have to just wait to see what's going to happen because nobody knows. How are they going to pull out of this when you know vinyl was doing so well and for this is GonNa be really hard on a lot of people all right? Well thank you again my friend and Take Care You David great talking to you man you take care of yourself all right bye. Bye Bye now. That's Ron McMaster retired. Vinyl MASTERING ENGINEER. Who Spent thirty seven years at Capitol Records in Hollywood he joined us from his home in Los Angeles? The cause of the fire and Apollo masters is unknown firefighters at the time were describing it as an explosion. Fortunately no one was injured in the early morning. Blaze record pressing plants around the country and the world have expressed concern and expect delays and even possible closures in the foreseeable future. Apollo Masters was one of only two companies in the world. The other being Japan's MDC known to produce the lacquer disc from which vinyl masters are typically pressed the Vinyl Alliance mentioned that its members had been in touch with MDC and that the Japanese company intends to ramp up production and rational slackers so as to minimize the impact on manufacturers. We will be following the story with great interest and bring you an update in our next episode when we come back we visit a retail establishment. That used to be everywhere and now are extremely difficult to find. But we found one. And we'll take you there when vinyl snob returns right after this. Welcome back to vinyl SNOB. I'm Dave Whitaker on the northern coast of California in the town of Eureka. Just where northbound what a one takes a turn to the right is a retail business. You don't see much anymore. A Stereo shop. Hi I'm Chris Larson on the owner of North Coast audio of the Hi-fi shop here in beautiful downtown Eureka California Passion Project. I've always been into audio gear Been into music since I was a little kid. I started off playing the saxophone in fourth grade and that turned into a love of jazz and music and and that goes along with being able to listen to stuff which was hand. Me Down Audio Gear for my dad and grandfather and we're worlds. I could scrounge it. And you know from about age five. I started off with old HIFI systems in a haven't stopped upgrading sense. Hey you know that goes you start off with one piece. Okay well maybe get some better speakers. I'm going to get a better tape deck here in here and it and it just the the end result of it gets to be really bad as you end up owning your own. Hi-fi shop one of my first jobs in highschool believe it or not was slinging electronics at a department store back win. Macy's of all things had electronics. If you can believe that it's hard to think of now but electric stores were all over the place especially coming out of the eighties. I mean that was a huge time. Even here in tiny Eureka like I was saying before we started recording. I think there was three or four audio shops at one point in a town of thirty thousand which is unheard of. Today that led to another job solectron. Ix in in college I worked for sears. Eighteen year old kid Selim. Tv's stereos. I worked for a time after college but a really cool regional chain That's no longer in existence. Goodguys was a really fun place to work at some good times there but he had to wear tidende care for that you know they were pretty laid back. That was one of the things. That wasn't my favorite And this stuff to put me through college. I've worked for a couple of other small independent dealers and and that got some good experience there but I remember getting into an argument one day with with the owner. And he says well if you don't like it get your own. Dang Stereo store and like. Hey you know that's a good idea. Why Eureka ask I just love Humble County. I love the area My wife and I go out and and drives with our son and I looked driving up the coast and say hey. This is our back your heart. This is pretty cool. We've got the ocean. We've got the REDWOODS FEW SNOW. We can find it but it stays up there You don't have to shovel it you know. We're we're half hour away from snow during the winter and in ten minutes from the beach and everything else and it's gorgeous I love it and I'm looking forward to raising our son here. It's just a wonderful place to be and And it's casual it's laid back. You know a the other part of having a amount shop was being able to come to work in a t shirt and shorts. I've had jobs in the past had to wear a shirt and tie and that just doesn't appeal to me. So yeah we really casual when you walk in the door and every once in a while get get that you work here and like myself. Chris is a transplant to the area. I grew up in the bay area and I came up to do my undergraduate work at the local university humble State University. And that's where I fell in love with the place and it's not the the richest economic area up here. It's had its turmoil for various things over the years so you know in order to find a job that would support me. I had to create one. Not sure if I'm successful on that yet but I'm still here twelve years in the with the Stereo shop it's not the most lucrative business in the world but it's fun. I mean I get to listen to music every day and I love one of the cool things about my funky building and this is a funky old building. You're talking about that before we we started recording You know this is a house built in eighteen. Seventy two kind of a neat thing about this building. It is so odd. It wasn't ever designed as an audience store so a lot of it performs like a house. Would I mean. We don't have perfect listening rooms. I've made them work as listening rooms. It ends up being I think a little bit representation of what you might here at the House and the secret to the success of any business location location location. Major highway one. Oh one yeah. I'm doing a high end speaker demo and you know logging trucks will go by the place to shake and I mean that's that's the thing doing a sound demo half the laugh every once in a while. My horrible ongoing joke is. We're right across the street from the fire station at so if ever. I'm doing a surround demo in the fire engine goes off which it does about eight to ten times a day. Asa doesn't it. Sound like the fire engines right behind us. I mean it's bad. I usually gets a chuckle. It is what it is. That's what I've got to deal with an and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I love this place. I've I've Kinda poured my heart into making this funky old building work. It's it's IT'S NOTHING. Fancy it's not a glossy high end showroom It's very lived in You know I'm the only the only guy that that works on everything. And that's why it's not always clean and neat and tidy is likely to be but I think it's relatively warm and welcoming I try to make people feel comfortable when they come in. You know working in Stereo stores that just became kind of what I did. It wasn't really. I didn't plan on say. Hey I'm gonNA open hyphen door. But once I realized the opportunity was available to me. I was like all right. This is cool. I maybe I can do this. I opened up shop Lower decade ago and I think on day one which was the day after a six point. Something earthquake we had separate started off with a start off with a bang. I opened up the shop. I think I had two thousand dollars with inventory which was nothing. People would walk in a stereo gear and TV's and I would sell a TV and keep the box and put the box on the stand can say. Hey listen I can get you one just like this. Because I didn't have any money I I opened up I was. I opened up with a negative money. I still had some credit card debt. I didn't have any money to do this but I lucked out and I had a really cool landlord who used to own the stereo store. That's in the location where I'm at and He he kind of helped me help me get going a little bit and got to build it the way. I wanted to build it the large room. That we're sitting in right here is kind of you know kind of the welcoming spot and where? I started a lot of people off I don't expect people to walk in the door and be able to buy a you know Macintosh stack and ten thousand dollars speakers So I always try to have some really good Good deals For not a lot I mean we we start off with some entry level speakers sitting behind you for a couple of hundred bucks. I'd like to see people get into hi Fi Rather than go down to the big box store whatever and throw a piece of junk sound bar home theater in a box. You know something that's going to. They're going to throw out in a couple of years. Anyway I get people to come in and say. Hey I'm getting. I'm trying to buy a home theater for five hundred bucks in an exactly. I take a breath and say okay all right. Well here's the pros and cons of that What I try to get them into as well. You can build something over time that you're GonNa last lot longer and you're going to be a lot happier with you know. Listen to this and I'll play them just a pair of speakers and maybe an AV receiver for five six hundred bucks the same price that they were gonna blow on five lousy plastic speakers. You can get a proper set of speakers that that's going to last you really a lifetime if you take care of them And that's something they can they can build off and that's resonated with a lot of people not always. I mean people get money burning a hole in the pocket. They WANNA THEY WANNA get everything all at once but usually that argument makes a Lotta sense to people and And it's worked. I've had people come in. I mean it's good business sense for me long term but it's better for the customer which is what I mild my goal is I want. I'm building people that get into this and get excited about it and it's it's fun to watch You know a lot of times. You know young guys you know. Eighteen twenty years old. Whatever with not a lot of cash is let's get you some good speakers and maybe we'll find you a nice used receive or something to get into some good quality here that you can upgrade. I mean like I said. I haven't stopped upgrading my whole life since five years old and You know maybe it's good. Maybe it's bad. I get them into the sickness. Do but it's a fun way to do. I really enjoy it. And after years in the Stereo Business Chris has seen the brick and mortars dropped one by one much of it due to competition from online sales. You know I remember. When the last probably competitor when circuit city went out of business before they they folded about a year before they went out. I mean the writing was on the wall because they stopped paying people commission and all their experience people left. I mean when I when I worked at the good guys I was. I was the odd man out in in my audience department. I was the twenty year old snot nosed kid and I was working with guys in their forties fifties sixties really cool people and they you know there were some guys that had been there twenty plus years and I got a lot from. I mean. They've they grew up in the in the big time off. Stores grew up with that place. And it's just not something that exists anymore. I mean the the Internet hit. It's it's that's all retail killing retail everywhere. I have to do something different to stay in business and that's trying to have the experience. Now we're we're we are really an odd situation. We're in Eureka. It is to my advantage. I mean I could not do this. I couldn't do this business in the area. I couldn't do it in in a major market. It's just there's to be honest with you. There's no money in it. I do it because I love it. I do it because it's fun. I can have the the amount of stuff I mean. I go into the shops when I go into the big cities. I've been into shops and major cities all over. I'm I've got a bigger shop. I've got more stuff and like you said I have a wide range of stuff because I'm serving. I'm trying to get everybody into this kind of thing and we don't have a best buy in town we don't have there really isn't any other place where you can buy any of this stuff in the shop. I mean I i. I'm looking around. I can't think of another place in town or even in the greater County area You know you you've gotta drive six hours before you're gonna find some of the stuff we draw from a big area. I mean I get it. It always amazes me how far my customers will come to my shop. I mean I have had customers from Southern California. I've customers Reno Portland's I've had a few. That will fly in to listen to stuff. There's a brand in in the high end room there there's dealers there's a few dealers in the bay area not a single one of them. How's on display the speakers that I do Because to stay alive in this industry in the major markets you have to be a custom installer. So these are the guys you know. Building the cut the custom homes with the smart home in the fifty hundred thousand dollar home theater. That's the only thing they can do to stay in business. The average guy that wants to buy a reasonably priced hi FI. There's very few shops left. We get a lot of tourists. That's a neat thing about Humboldt County and again going back to why I live here People come visit us from all sorts of beautiful area and I'll get people driving through and they'll walk in my store and then you know this kind of have the summer. How do you have all this stuff and the other thing? I hear a lot as well. Geez we don't have a store like this in my town we used to. We don't have a store like this giant XYZ city so they're always blown away. And I'm like yeah. Just come. Listen yeah sure great. I never expect to make a sale and I'm not I never push him. What do you want to hear and you know I have things like Magna Pants? You can't hear magnet. There's very few. There's only two three places in all of California you can listen to magnet speakers. I love playing him for people. I loved if specially if they've never heard before never been able to hear him in a good environment jaw-dropping experience they had like. Oh my gosh. I've never heard anything like that is amazing and it's fun. I just get to play and you know for me. It's I'm getting to listen to tunes. I'm getting to listen to music. Demoing speakers is my favorite part of the job when you brought in your records. Listen to speakers but I'll I'll bring in these tourists people. I have no expectation of selling to just to give them the experience and it's fun and every once in a while I'll get a call and this happened not long had a call from a guy who said hey joe so and so you remember me. Don't remember you yeah. I came in on my Harley and I was about six months ago I okay all right I think I remember. Yeah we have. You played these speakers for me and you did the system and I'll tell you I've been it's been bugging me the whole time. I WANNA buy some. We'll wary wyman Chicago okay. Well you've been in my store. Jeeves have a local dealer. Well there's nobody around here that has what I using Chicago as an example. But they don't have the hi Fi dealers and if that's the case then they'd been in my shop. I'm happy to say well. Yeah sure I'll set you up and I've I've got some big customers who have referred other customers all over the country and that's that's that's a little bit of what's supporting our. Hi Five business. It's not intentional. It's just kind of happened that way. Just me having fun and it doesn't happen that often maybe one out of ten. But that's still pretty cool And they're happy and I've I've I made some good friends. I mean there's people I talk to. That are my customers that you know they were on vacation here six years ago and I still talk to them and they still call me for advice and stuff and I'm happy to give them my honest opinion on stuff. I'm happy to tell you what I think. Something sucks or if I think a review or is not on point and that just circles back to you got to hear you get those guys with that experience and they you know like I'd read a review about this but I had no idea and you know maybe I turn onto an amplifier or something else in the system that I've never heard of this or I've never read a review or I read her view this that the guy didn't like it. Did you like it? Yeah I thought it was great. Well then this is why you gotta hear it. You can't really trust the reviews. Good kitchen the ballpark. Get You thinking about certain things but man you gotta hear it. You got to have that experience. And I'm I'm grateful I can give that to people. I'm grateful I can stay in business. Just barely doing a hi-fi shop. It's it's not an easy road You know there are certainly challenges involved. And I'm I'm a one man band. I'm the installer the groundskeeper and the Maintenance Guy Salesperson The list goes on and on and on you know the the the downside is I I I love doing speaker demos but then again at the end of the night I have to sit down and do our to earth paperwork. That's not fun. Nobody ever told me about that part but I love having this business I. I love meeting people. I love exploring new music that customers bring in And I love turning people on to hi FI It's it's a blast I never saw myself doing this. I can't see myself doing anything else. Now Chris Larson owner of North Coast audio in Eureka. California on a future episode will explore fire. Engine right on cue on a future episode will explore the Speaker Demo as I look for a new pair of speakers for the Living Room Stereo. We have pictures and links to north coast audio on our website. Final SNOB DOT com. But I warn you. You will not find a shopping cart on Chris's website however if you'd like to talk audio shoot him an email or give them a call. Chris loves to talk audio gear. Now the jump from the West Coast to the east coast. Where on a recent visit to New York? Dana Berry stopped by record city in Brooklyn. I'm Ian Clark and this is record city in Brooklyn. We opened in September of Twenty sixteen. Been involved in records for a long time selling part time full time. Internet in person and also have a record label that focuses on Vintage music it's called decay. Are we had an office in the neighborhood in prospect efforts gardens and for many years we had that office and one of my partners. Sorta started nausea to look for real estate To maybe have a shop and very thankful that he did that because Kind of pushed me to move towards having a physical record store and really glad we did it We we definitely have a lot of Reggae music in here. But we have everything rock jazz hip hop so Really Great Neighborhood. Good place for neighborhoods been very responsive. It's very historically Caribbean. American neighborhood over here which is important to me. since we're so interested in Jamaican music but you know as has happened in Brooklyn Certainly gentrifying a bit You got a lot of newcomers. Come into the neighborhood looking for rock records and soul records and jazz records. You got the twentysomethings. We're just getting a record player and discovering final records which is an important part of y record. Stores can work nowadays. I just started selling records when I just kind of started finding more than I could use and and I really had an interest in reggae and I was finding records that were pretty tough to find a guess and started selling stuff on Ebay and then started my own website which focused on eighties reggae music. Which was kind a niche back when in two thousand eight. You could have a specialty sneaker store like that and can work and then this came around and kind of flattened everything out of it so I started selling records there but I always have people coming into my place in my apartment and buying records so this is an extension of your apartment extension of my apartment. Yeah much extension in my apartment. Where do you generally get your final all over the place You know people walk in with elections to the store. Just great a bunch of other folks record dealers in record stores and everyone. If you're friendly enough people will trade information and That's the way to get records. I buy record dealers to sometimes definitely by from some people that we've met through a record label over the years got a lot of sort of network and connections with reggae musicians and producers So it's a bunch of those guys bought from over the years and still do you hooked on. Bino I or were you listen to other formats. I I was hooked on my own. I because I was like I had an older brother seven years older and he just gave me some Americans when I was like eleven or twelve and I lived in Princeton. At that time New Jersey's place called the Princeton Record Exchange and in high school I was just like rating dollar Princeton all the time with friends and and it was pretty great time to do that. There's all kinds of cool stuff to find in the early nineties. You know back when everyone's getting rid of their record collections and buying CDs like it is but Yeah I. I was really into rap music. I was into old funk in Seoul stuff because of that and then started to catch onto reggae but I was also a Dj the DJ a lot so records were essential for that Dj hip hop any interesting characters that have brought in odd things. There was a local gentlemen a much older Jamaican guy who in a piecemeal way just brought in little suitcase after a little suitcase of his collection. He terrific like stuff. Br really good roots reggae stuff from the seventies including There's a legendary record L. E. Perry records called heart of the Congo's and the original copies of that hand painted stripes because they were pissed win. The congress came back that they had gotten the college wrong so they Lee Perry and other people were sitting there like painting them in the in the back of his studio. And so there's a few hundred thousand. He had one of those and that just walked into the store. One day. Yeah it was very very happy to see that. That one's stayed with very rarely. 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Kurtwood Smith

Kevin Pollak's Chat Show

1:19:30 hr | 3 years ago

Kurtwood Smith

"Welcome back to Kevin Pollack's chat show. I am always chat show how the hell are you and thank you for giving a damn continue to write to us at k. PCS fan mail g mail dot com. KP CS fan mail at g mail dot com. I love reading your emails. I went through several today to read for today's show, and there are too many good ones. That's my excuse. No, I have limited time today. So I wanna spend all that with our guest because I have a two firm according to shows today. So I'm gonna read the Email and the second show because I feel it's it's I, I had less time to prepare of the two shows that I've doing today. So I'll kill some type of rating your emails. How's that for enthusiasm and and away way to provoke you to Philo view, who give good God damn about the Marlins MRs Mazel the show that I'm on the Amazon prime. Network. Since we spoke last, the show one eight Emmys including best riding director, best supporting actress, but best lead actress and best comedy. It was crazy. We had already went three, what they call the EMMY technical awards, which included best casting in a comedy. So I felt like it already personally won an EMMY being a part of the cast. But that was from the technical portion, the Emmys, the non televised really so far as the big, the big boy bought broadcast Jamie, and I had not been to the Emmys before I, I haven't done that much TV in and what I've done. No one gave a shit. So this is first time at the academy of television arts and sciences, and it's really treated like an academy thing. It's a little too fucking serious for my for my enjoyment, but it was exciting first time for anything. Exciting. Dammit. So when every each time the show won an EMMY, which was five that night, Jamie nice sort of stood up like we just won the World Series or the super. I mean, it was crazy fists in the air like lunatics and people are gowns and I'm gonna tuxedo. But we were in a little section of Mazel people. So we all sort of lost their mind. But by the time we went up for the best comedy. The final second last event of the night award of the night, which is the only one I was allowed to join on stage. If you win best show, they Lau everyone who's ever worked on the show in any capacity to come on states who happens to be in the room. So you know, it's craft service guy, but I, I did end up ten next to Tony shillue and there was a wide shot of us because I watched it later where you do see me say something to him while Dan palladino is giving the acceptance speech, the back of him, I say something Tony, she'll, but he starts laughing. So I. I would tell you what I said will. I said, it's official Tony. You're the only one of us who lost an award tonight. 'cause when he won five out of six and he laughed so fucking hard, but he loved that Henry Winkler one in the same category, and Henry was so great in its began his acceptance speech by saying, I wrote this speech forty three years ago. So everyone was thrilled at Henry one on top of which he's brilliant in the HBO series berry. He really is astonishing in that part as opposed to one of those career awards. It really was earned. Let's Tony's got a couple, you know, really, it's enough already, but as we had, the thing was palpable on that stage was that the audience for the most part have had enough of Mazel and you could feel it man not just from the people who are nominated, didn't win. You could feel it from the entire audience. It was like these fucking people. Again, I guess at the kademi awards for movies, they spread things around. If you win best screenplay, you know you're not gonna win best film kind of thing. It rarely is a sweep. Best director doesn't always go to the best film, but intelligent. I guess they liked the sweep, and that's what happened and people hated us. So I had a hell of a good time. I'll tell you that right now and I'll tell you the rest later season. Two drops. I guess I can just say before the end of the year, I'm not they, they have a date in mind, and I'm a legally obligated not to share it with you. Yes, bullshit. Folks this is going to get to it. You've heard me ran on the show about my favorite show. No, not the maze program while I was instantly hooked on the of program as a fan to my number one favorite since it dropped now. Almost two years ago also on Amazon prime is called patriot. I've been pretty much ranting about it nonstop on this show and also just in life to to people, you know, because there's almost five hundred scripted show some say more. And just just a breakthrough and get anyone to talk about whatever it is you're working on, it has become the new impossible. So while I was thrilled that the Mazel tapped into the alleged Zaid guys, I became more and more upset that my favorite show patriot had not. And so I I've been running around to the neighbor's house. I knocking on their doors but like you know, real big time, big pants show business, Jim, James l. Brooks, I've mentioned too many times plays often in my weekly poker game. And so you know what the poker game you with your pals six, seven hours once a week, and you're shooting shit, and you're and everyone's talking about what movies that just came out that they saw what TV shows. So I started yapping about patriot to them, and I mentioned it to James l. he's what's this. So I said, just a monetary what it is just dial it up on the Amazon prime. And he played the next time a couple of weeks later and he and he said, Kevin, it's the. Our television. I've seen in twenty five years. This is a man with twenty Emmys maybe more. Created the Mary Tyler Moore show taxis sewn, and so forget all the kademi wards moviemaker just so when he says the best television I've seen in over twenty five years. I finally felt vindicated and now I'm reaching out to the neighboring towns around my own. Eventually gonna Candice, the United States of America and then go out to the rest of the world because Amazon prime is available all over the planet shows called patriot. I guess today's one of the main reasons. It's the best our television barn on. Please welcome the now historically talented, Kirkwood Smith, if that is your real name, that is indeed my real name. Right? Did courage start as the first name always or is it the middle name? It was always Kurt, would my mother and well, my family always called me curt. That's what she wanted to call me. Okay, too. Short for to go with Smith right curt Smith baseball player and musician. Yeah, but so she just she went the wood on, I think it's great. How many have you run into non? Exactly. Yeah, exactly. You can't. You can't compete with that now. Why? What made moms? So damn smart. That's funny. That's an interesting question. She was just kind of an interesting gal. Yeah, yeah. This was born in Wisconsin born in Wisconsin. New Lisbon? Yeah. But according to internet, you, you actually grew up in the San Fernando Valley? Yeah, pretty much that was from from what I was tend to when I was seventeen, then I, after I graduated from high school. Canoga park high school? Yeah, home of television stars. Bryan Cranston with their. That's right. Kevin, Spacey. Sure. Yeah. I go to school you and I shared a university San Jose State what state I did. Yeah. A longtime after me. But yeah. Well, here's more important part. I graduated in nine months. My friends call it dropping out. But I felt as if I'd had. Whereas you not only completed you and onto Stanford for your masters. Right. What the hell. Let's get back to mom for moment though, back in Lisbon. 'cause I'm interested very much. So in the whole point of this damn thing is the. How the hell did you get from there to here? Because each one of our stories is ridiculous and unique. So I'm I'm very curious how the hell you got from there to here. So let's go back to Lisbon. What kind of kid are you from? Zero to ten. I was just, I don't know what kind of kid I was just kind of nice little kid. Okay. For the most part, right. Wasn't on a troublemaker then. Sure. I waited till I was in my teen years. Good, a good mom, but at that time, just kind of good kid tried stay alive, you know, in Wisconsin, winners and ho boy. A lot of time on the farm. I had an couple of had had farms and cousins, and so weekends I got on the school bus with them and went to the farm, and it's been a lot of time out there in summers and stuff. What's happening on the farm. Everything happens on the farm and that's why it's especially when your cousins girl cousins. You know, I see what you're saying. So not just a wild LA. Yeah, I had a couple of male cousin, Stu and the different family, but so we would all get together and we just run like a bunch of crazy savages. You know, a working farm? Yeah. What did they producing milk milk? Mainly by it was Wisconsin dairy farm, but they also had pigs and chickens and all that stuff. And did you put to work as well or just? Yeah. Yeah. You had chores. You have to do stuff, you know? I remember I remember when I was that age having to help, you know when they were like, you know, bringing in, hey, and stuff like that and getting that crap all over your shirt at seven. Yeah, I remember having to hold help hold down pigs while they were castrated. Sure. That's when you're eight years old. Listen to those pigs scream. That's an eye opener. And how are you with pets as an adult? I don't have any pets. Never did. Interesting. We had a cat for eighteen years and it was great. We travel too much. Right? I feel, you know, I mean, you can get people to come over and stay at your house, but it's, yeah, I just we don't feel right about assurance actually likes them, but. But you went ahead and raise some kids raise some kids. I have to say that my ex wife, my first wife, she did most of the raising. Okay. I didn't really get a hold of them until they were pretty much. I would see them all the time. But right after they were in college than they came down to LA and so, oh, that's their mind. That's right. So you're, you're holding down a pig at eight, seven or eight, you know that that does afford a great many things in a heartbeat. Yeah, we're cat people and I am. I find a bleeding heart. Panzi when it comes to this cat's health that I kinda lose my shit to the point where I can't even put her in the crate and put it in the car because the sound at the cap makes is a, it's not. It can't compete with a pig losing, it's nuts, but I'll tell you having not experienced that. I would. Similarly, the cat is also your personal friend. That's right. You didn't really have gone with that particular pig. And I were not picked out a name. No name or personality or testicles. Right? And no longer. So yes. So now I found in Los Angeles, if you pay just a little couple of hundred bucks, they'll come to your house. The vet that will. Yeah, yeah, there's a great one. I'm going to say him nine one one bet that guy's amazing. The whole company's great. If you're a Panzi like me and you can't put the animal in the car and get it down to the vet which I can have. But once I had, let's look, I've said it before money is to buy convenience. If you have a little money by yourself, some convenience where it really matters and this cat's health again makes me turn into such an idiot, so. So you get out you ever had to feed your cat through to not enjoyable? Not enjoy. Yeah, eighteen years. You said you had yours. That's a hell of a run. Yeah, yeah. See, and he was always getting hurt somehow. Yeah. Well, the male cat. Yeah, they'll give you a little more trouble getting those big abscesses from getting in fights. Sure. Something else wrong with them and we'd be feeding them through a tube in. Yeah, joy. Just the joy sounds like an outdoor cat. He's getting in fights. Yeah, he was. He was up to his last few years and it was like, none are. He's, he's not gonna win. He's winning any. If you're getting your ass kicked come on inside. Let that be a than all you out there. If you get here, ask kicked come on inside. So what brought the family to the San Fernando Valley from Wisconsin because that's a hell of a shift. Yeah. Well, you know, my folks, they both went to high school. Well, actually my mom and my stepdad school together. My my mother had married young soldier from Louisiana, the beginning of World War Two. That's where I came from and he was killed, you know, about a month before the end of the war on Cao plane went down and. Got all kinds of metals and things. So yeah, he never saw me. I never saw him. But I would, but I spent a lot of time in Louisiana because if it which was another really interesting thing to go through when you're a kid, did you trace his life or his upbringing or. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he he and all his. He was one of seven. He was the youngest of seven. They were all born in Texas Carthage and win. My grandfather who was like local sheriff or whatever it was. He died of a heart attack in his forties and my grandmother need to be Smith took those seven kids didn't figure, and she was in Carthage, Texas thought she'd have a better chance in a bigger city. So she took seven kids, wow, and dragged them all to Shreveport, Louisiana, raised them all by ourselves. Can't even fathom that if I had to go to the dry cleaners and the Bank in the same day. Exactly. Seven kids reports, and they all grew up to be pretty good kids. Yeah, that's a stunning now, one of them being your father who gave his life and World War Two. That's right. So you eventually. Discovers much as you could about him in the family. I did, but also I spent a not only to discover a lot about him, which was interesting. Yeah, you you never really discover because by the time you get old enough to say, well, what was he really like and this and that all your ankles enhance have been without them for fifty years, right. You know he was in right, right. Twenty two years. Old hall guide us twenty twenty two twenty four years old. I know it's just amazing to think about it is truly amazing. Honestly, just to be a pilot. Yeah. And to lead the this final assault on the operation versity. He was in the lead plane with the commander of the division and and playing got hit with flack and shirt. They were dropping paratroopers and they got rid of the paratroopers and it was too late for them to get on like so many happened. Yeah, yes. Many. By your stepdad and your mom and my stepdad, my mom who had gone to high school together a little tiny town. Oh, great. But before we leave Wisconsin, you know, it was interesting to go from this little town Elizabeth because now we're talking about fifties. To Shreveport, Louisiana, really different world show. I was kind of identifying with that Randy Newman's song. Dixie flyer? Uh-huh. About leads. It's about going from LA. Due to an Orleans during the during the war. But anyway. Yeah, because it was a whole different world one that I wasn't really aware what's going on till you get down there and it's like. This is, you know, whites only caller, what's what's the deal, you're? Yeah. And some people are their own parents in that neck of the woods. Yeah, there's a little bit of that. Yeah. It is a different planet. Well, it certainly. Yeah, much more. So then than I think now, you know, now the world's a lot smaller than it was then. You know what's going on in the world now pretty much especially in the United States. But you know if you're kidding, no Lisbon in, you know, late forties, fifties. What? What he knew about Louisiana and you know, and. What's going on with them racial issues. Sure. You know it is. That's just not something that's on your and also to see it up close to the way you saw that pig. Well, in terms of shock value. Shock failure? Yeah. Right. Yeah. And how what years were you? Because I loved all those people easy Hannah, right. And yet they were living in a different world and I was, yeah, they were raising the different set of concerns and believes it's right. How long did you stay there before? We got to the San Fernando Valley ten years in in Wisconsin, and then we, then we went to the valley and just that was another world too. You know, I mean, the tone lived in Wisconsin had twelve hundred people. And then all of a sudden I was in Los Angeles. Three blocks from the MGM studios. That's you know, at first, I while the our little our little house in Canoga park was being built. So that was my Culver city. Culver city? Exactly. Yeah, right. In the sought, tell sepulveda's area. Right? So. But what was. Drunked the what was the work that that was it? There wasn't really any work and you know they were bored living in little town, Wisconsin, right. And my uncle my, my stepdad's brother was out here and said, you guys got to come out here and so they did. They did, you know, is like they just he quit his job. They packed up in there. You know a forty, nine Ford and five of us. Just came across country and no job. No, nothing. Holy cow. Yeah, just showed up and, and at that age, you've not seen much outside Lisbon, I'm guessing just new Lisbon and a couple of trips to Milwaukee. And then of course, Shreveport. Right. But when you're driving across the country. Oh, wow. Wow. And it goes on for days. It'd be like going to the farm or something, you know, and the different direction. But no, no, it was days and days and staying a little motels and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, that's great. I. And then it wasn't when we, but it was. It was fine. It was funny. It was fine when I was coming out here from from Knowle's by all the way across the country. But when we were living in Culver city and they were building the house in Canoga park, that was no five that went to the valley you had to take Cepal of. Oh, so whenever we would go out there so I developed motion sickness. Oh, wow. So the next time we went to Wisconsin. They gave me too many dramamine and I started talking to people that weren't there, which kind of freak my mother out right. Right. Yeah, bet it did. Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. We talking to Kenny Kenny. Not one of your brothers. How many, how many of those pills did you give him for four. Two. Wow, or one or something. I don't know. Yeah. Holy crap. So so I. I love to grown up in the valley. Yeah, it was. It was great fun. Well, now once you get into to that those teen years, and you said you, you alluded earlier that you weren't a troublemaker, maybe till will you know we used to do things like. There were there was a street full of us because that's what everybody was the same age. It seemed like you know, so there, then everybody in the neighborhood was like my age or year older, and so we just ran. And in those days, you know, you didn't have played aids, just got up and then you went and and we're supposed to be home by dark or whatever. And I've talked about on the show how my I'm curious now looking back and trying to remember because I sort of ran with a similar pack and suburbs of northern California. San Jose with over overture at the end of the street, I was born in San Francisco and raising San. And the curfew. And you're, you're running around with your friends on your bikes or what have you. And I was trying to remember later when we were driving around in cars without cell phones, how the hell did we know where each other was going to be? Because certain places you went there was like three or four plays you go. But if the if you didn't find your friends there, though, those are some lonely hours trying to figure out where is the world, how did the world get on without me, but for the most part? Yeah, or you'd run into somebody at a gas station, hey, d'you know where, yeah, they're all the party out at Johnson's party Johnson. Well, so you're running around with fairly fairly early into my teen years. We discovered how much fun it was to shoplift things. Oh, you bet you. And so we would do that. And then we would take the step further which was okay. Three, go receipt a and we will go to Canoga park and we'll see who can steal the most and see would steal all this crap, useless stuff that you didn't want. There was easy to steal is not about what you're going to do with it. It's about that the high, it's about the rush. Oh, sure. And now you also created competition. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And then that sort of carries on the next thing. You know. Sullivan is really good at hot wiring cars. That's that's helpful. Yeah. And he had an older brother that showed them maybe not? No, he didn't. He was. He was an only child he learned from some. You know, these guys, these even older guys who sat around in the garage all day right of their house. You know, anyway, the next thing we knew we were riding around in stolen cars which again, it was taken for joyrides leave him something to do. Yeah. And then we one day we found an ice cream truck took the ice cream truck. Now that's what move. How old are you? This is great. Fourteen Sherry. Sure. No one's my little brother reminds me this all the time we took this ice cream drove around. There's pretty boring. They don't go very fast and you know it was filled with ice cream. So what we do poorly took it into an empty field. We went and got all the little kids in the neighborhood, took him out there handed out free ice cream. But don't you tell right and they didn't. And we just left the ice cream truck. That was that was that I was out unsolved mystery out, but then one of us got busted bad for shoplifting and that kind of going all went. Oh no, yeah, I don't wanna do this anymore. Yeah. So that end of that man. And at what point are you drifting anywhere near the performing arts. When I was in high school, when I got cut from the basketball team, they had to put you. In a different p. class, because if you were, if you were on one of the sports, you're in sixth period p so they, they switched me to six periods speech which turned out to be the. The competitive speech. It's where the debaters were. People who did Orlan terp and so in order to stay in there, and I knew some of the kids and they were kind of fun guys. So I thought, yeah, I'll stay here and so I had to find something to do so I did or petition. And then I was also pretty good at like being narrator, you know. So I would narrate the assemblies, you know, when the glee club and the fantastic when they came out and did things. I was the guy who would read, you know, and this spring and in springtime, you know, it's the and they would sing few songs, right. Well, listen, even in the on the internet, one of the things that's noted was your thorough Tate of tone. Yeah. So you develop that early but, but when you eventually get the state university, which by the way is nowhere near Canoga park. Those of you are geographically challenged. What because I grew up in San Jose, so going to San Jose university was just a way of. Not knowing what the hell is going to do even though I didn't know what I was gonna do I already starting performing, stand up comedy in music halls. High school simply be, yeah, yeah. Well, I started performing when I was ten lip synching the first comedy album of who we now know to be the no longer the most successful serial rapists in history now that he's going to do a little time, but I wish they'd put on the liner notes Bill Cosby's albums. Yeah, you know, you gotta take the pills and you gotta be sleep before we have sick. I like to be drowsy. Sorry, it's nothing funny about it. So I wish they'd put that in the liner notes. I wouldn't have worked so hard at studying his comedy albums. So that was my when I was tens. By the time. I was a senior in high school. I stopped doing the album. Visit started writing moment tiller doing a person Asian. Yeah. So that's Christopher logger gone. Well, you're so very kind to even know of that. It certainly heard this great story about Chris for walking. What did we tricked you into come into some place and then said, you know, I invited you, and then he told everybody else to hide. And this is not true. I love this story. Oh, told everybody to hide. My friend, Tony from Chicago told me this happened to me Kevin Pollack, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's funny. Was so enamored of your or so impressed with your ration of him that he invited you to some events Hosie carry? This is great. This isn't true. I love. I love stories like this. You came to the right, right, and thinking, you know, and there's nobody there knowing that for Christopher wall. Who says, I can't do Chris for Kevin, and you know, and you're like, hey, where's everybody exactly? Where is it? Raining goes, oh, this is just you. I love urban legend. That's a great one. And maybe it happened to Kevin Spacey who did a famous Christopher Walken before he was run out of town on a rail. Well, for different reasons for. Yeah, so so I was going to San Jose State university because I was not that interested in school. I was pretty bored occasionally. I'd have a teacher who was inspiring entertaining, and that would interest me or the English lit teacher in my senior in high school just taught the the writings of Samuel Clemens before Mark Twain. So I really dived face first into the subtleties of sarcasm and cynicism and political humor. This from high school, this was for my senior in high school so that that teacher was a single shining moment. Yeah, and the rest of it, the teachers were bored, I, I was bored and that was pretty much. So I went to San Jose State university. I don't even remember taking my SAT's. I don't remember applying. I don't remember someone for this state university. You don't pay for. I don't even remember a couple of hundred bucks. Yeah. So I remember were went there. I joined a fraternity because I had a friend said, if you wanna meet chicks, you gotta join this fraternity. And I worked at the very first Togo's sandwich shop, which was right across the street from San Jose State university, nineteen, seventy six custody from the drama department shop. Shop. I don't know whether it wasn't a Togo's then, but right. It's a sandwich place cross-strait. That's amazing if it was Cam. So those are my memories, but then also just felt like high school with ashtrays because I had no scholastic goals or interests and I couldn't wait to get out. So dropping out to take stand up. Comedy on full-time was my masters class, whereas you gave your life, I'm I'm assuming not just to the girls and the parties, but also the theater drama department. Not the first year, not well, no one does the first first year I was not even theater major. I didn't know what I was going to do. I just basically wanted to get out of the house go someplace. I was in Canoga park. Yeah. So. How does state even come up on the map? It's it's a state university, so it's pretty cheap share and. Has a reputation for being a fun place to go. Sure. And so I've kind of between San Diego State Tennessee's state, good choice ended up going to San Jose. And you know, pretty much majored in parties. Yeah, I two is in a fraternity for about a month. Yeah, I was like, this is, you know, do you remember which one. I don't think it was a, maybe it was might have been nessa. Absolutely. That's the one I joined. Really? Yeah. Do you remember the secret handshake? I think they're all the same to locking pinky too. I just remember just. This. Tiff. It's just all the bullshit. Yeah, it really was being a pledge. I thought, how man I don't need this was supposed to before you can come up series. You've got say that Mr. so-and-so is terrific gun is the facility. So the cock suck was like silence of your tire house. Then I had to go and talk to the president of the fraternity. Yeah, we understand you just said out of here. Yeah. So the first year didn't really know what you want to do. And how did you drift towards the drama department. I took an acting class because I felt, well, you know, I did that speech thing and school enjoyed that seat. So I took an acting I did of my first scene was a scene from golden boy. You know, the play? No. The boy. He's a fighter. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, they, they did it a couple of movies of it anyway, so. So Clifford audits, right? I did this and I want. What I can do this easy and everybody in the class that you can do this and said, hey, you can do this, and I was that, yeah, and then I flunked out. But. Flunked out of everything alley. I got. I got an and that class. That's right. And then when it was going to head to go to junior college? Well, junior community college, that's right. And. And I thought, well, okay, I'm majoring theater and seal that goes right. That was that it was just like, boom, this is just what I was meant to do, but you have to get some sort of grades your other classes in order to. Yeah. Well, once I had something I wanted to do once I had that thing, right, you know, then it's like, okay, now I gotta take the history. Gotta do this and that and I gotta take the time studying. I can't go out and screw around. Right. Get drunk every night. Right. And you know, and then it was fun. Then it was on the dean's list, so holy cut. So clearly you're all in or you're all out. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And that disciplined probably came from hold down that pig. Not wanna end up being that pig. That's right. I was going to be somebody situation. Yeah. Yeah. And so now you're thriving in the theater department. Right. All right. Let's put him pin in that moment. It came back semi-state wedding. Yes. No, you must have. Yeah. Yeah, you're not going from community college to Stanford. That's not happening. Okay. So I at the outset of our conversation, but I should say this lease just to, you know, in terms of my development would really happen. There was in the second year of going to community college before I transferred to stay the drama teacher. One of the drama teachers said instructors said, this friend of mine from Oregon. He's he's a professor down at Santa Clara and they're starting to Shakespeare festival. He just came up and saw the show. We were twin. We're doing a fellow and I was playing a fellow nineteen years old. Oh my and day. They want you to come to shift purpose. So I said, sure. And I didn't know that I did that for seven years during the summers that was really where I learned more than any place else that holy cow that's Shakespeare forgiving which became the California Shakespeare festival until it fell apart. Right. And according to internet. Your daughter was born, Santa Clara, California. Does that sound right? She would move. Yeah, I mean in that area. Yeah, right. Yeah. Las Gatos actually. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're living in Los Gatos, but she went to. My daughter ended up going to Santa Clara university. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I spent a lot of time in Los Gallos. Yeah, yeah. That was one of the first restaurants where I went from busboy to waiter to stand up comedian in the corner, which which will because they had a musical duo that would perform in the corner. And I was a waiter and I said to the manager who was getting stoned with on our breaks, you know, I'm doing stand up comedy now and when the ban takes a break, maybe I could do ten minutes is kind of keep the thing going to pay me and he said, sure, yeah, great. The an teak, it was called old town lost all Tom, that Shakespeare festival moved to Ulta all. Is that right? Yeah, we did a couple of years at like three, three or three or four years. All Tom totally Kennedy later became the California actors theatre and all Tom. So yes. Right for me with the end cheek. Uh-huh. And an old town, and that's. The wine cellar wine cellar better believe in that stuff. Holy cow, the world just got smaller. There was a back door from the cedar down into the wines. That's exactly right. I feel like I did a play at that theater in Los Gaddis as well in my youth as like a thirteen year. Old baby. Yeah, because know because I think that the teacher was going down to the wine cellar on his brakes and throwing back a couple. Now, at the outset, I, I talked about my favorite television program. So if you don't mind, we're gonna jump from the past to the present, and I need to know a number of things. First of all, when you read the first script. Did the tone that became the visual of the show exist on the page? Yeah, here's the thing. My manager called and said, there's the show I don't wanna call patriot in. I think it was called up patriot at that at that point and they want to offer your part, but the the the writer director wants to talk to you. I, I said, okay, so he called me Steve Conran and said, I just want you to know that that by net by then I'd already read the script and I went, oh, this characters. Just what I've done. You know, nothing extreme lays first episode, but what is show, you know, I was just totally captured by the by the script and what was going on, and you guys just tied in the first. And so I thought, I, I wanna do I wanna be a part of this. I don't care what I do, but he calls said, but your character is really going places. I mean, he's really going to change different things are gonna happen and all that. And I go through something. You said he's going on adventure, and I said. I'm in, you know, I mean, I said, I just love the pilot so much. I mean the script, right? And yeah, it was all there. It was there. I mean. Is it better than? Yeah, it's ended up, I think being even better than it read, but it read match Murray, much like that was magical. It's so dry and so different. Yeah, and so beautifully subversive. Yep. When I try to explain to people because most people who don't know anything about it or not, that familiar with its creator me to throw some more water here. I tell them imagine if soda Berg Wes Anderson and the Coen brothers decided to do show about espionage espionage at the center of it. It's just so unique -ly and visually compelling, and and look sometimes when you feel stress watching drama, it's a good thing. So when I say I felt stress don't don't take it as a negative. It's nearly impossible to to create a fictitious world and think the viewer so involved that they that their reaction is stressful. Yeah, that's an achievement. Yeah. I had it yesterday when I went to see a really bizarre little film called the sisters, brothers with John C, Reilly and walking Phoenix little western, which looked like definitely came from a novel, but look like a pet project. Maybe John C Reilly because he was listed as one of the producers. It is one of those quirky, weird kind of slow western that is compelling all the way through. And I felt stress throughout parts of it. And I thought walked wait. I was trying to explain to my better half Jamie. That such a unique in great part of a filmgoing television going experience when you can actually feel stressful. So I don't know if it read at times stressful as it was in the first noth- your character for the show itself. I think once once we shot the pilot which was shot where Israel Montreal, and then then we shot the rest of the first season in Chicago. A few people who are when their character went to Europe and went outside. The hotel were got to go to. Prog for three weeks. The fictitious city is Luxembourg, Luxembourg, and then we went to, which is not physician right as. But I think it's a different one represented in the show or is the same one feel like Luxembourg, I think of not outside of Paris. Maybe I'm for gay is not far from Paris saying, but it's it's own little country numbers in the city. It's a little country. That's right. We'll tiny country. And then we shot the second season in Paris. Which. Which drops in November also. Yeah. Yeah. You said that about your show, which is wonderful. Oh MRs. Mazel. And then I began to think. Can I say that it drops on the November ninth or was that a sacred? But anyway, I think that's the tricky thing about these shows that drop to be binge watched. When people yell at me about when is the next seas starting? Why do I have to wait so long? It's because they end up being little movies. Yeah, Amazon spending a lot of money on these shows and they're not forty. Eight minutes like a broadcast hour is because of commercial Phil, and they're often well over an hour. And so they're making these films in our case ten, ten, ten, the first season, eighth second second season. Okay. So eight films have to be prepped shot and then post produced with with music and all that goes into making a film, and then eight of those films have to be done. And that takes a very long time and then only that. But what happens is that. Everybody then watches them in about two weeks and they wanna know wouldn't it? So what the hell happened wins, you know, as opposed to if you watching. Twenty. Yes, spread out over twenty two weeks. And then it doesn't seem as as long till the next star working in July and they start dropping September. Right, right. And you keep making them while they're dropping. And that's the way the model's been forever since the fifties. But Amazon does have a tendency to hang onto them. This show's been ready since June. They don't want to drop till November because they have a master plan, which is your show is part of two, right, right. So they're, they're still finding their way there in new venture in the world of the we're now coming up on seventy years of broadcast elevates amazing though, isn't it? Amazing how much stuff there is today and how the business changed. Yeah, I was talking to an actress the other day that I hadn't seen for a few years. I said since the last time I saw you, it's a different business. Yeah, you know? Yeah, in the last five years for sure. And then the last two years, even more so it seems to be there's no way to catch up up. There's no way to watch everything. Sometimes I'll see a billboard for new show also have gathered enough time to that. It looks fantastic. I don't know when I'm gonna watch that. I just has to cross the street is Netflix. They got a billboard out there for this thing maniac. I don't know when the helmet to get the maniac looks fantastic. Right, can't wait. I said Jamie, we'll, we gotta watch maniacs. He said, we still have to finish, and then she lists the four shows. We're watching. So again, how do you break through that conversation. And so you do the pilot and you shoot the rest of the series in Chicago, which is I think, mind numbing to anyone who watched the show because it is set mostly in this world of of Luxembourg, and then a little bit back at the home office which also doesn't feel like Chicago so that there are extrordinary actors this Kiwi at the center of it Dorman Michael Dorman. Wonderful. Where the hell did he come from? First of all, he looks almost like Brad Pitt. He's a very handsome fellow. Yeah, born in raised, I think I feel. Yeah. Did he come from theater where the hell that come from? He's a some theater, but you know, has kind of working his way through them, you know, doing movies, independent Australian movies, bigger Australian movies. I'm spacing out on there was a couple of big movies that he was in from that part of the world at Sousa, very well known in Australia or fairly well known. He's he's known. Yeah, he's a working. He's a lot more. No. Now you gotta be. I mean, he's he's since we've finished. He's done another series. We finished in February. He did a a short film, not a short film and independent film. He's the lead in singing as well as as acting and he already singing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Then Terry, they both. They in sync together before, but they both. Will I send a lot of time saying, yeah, Terry Quinn a wonderful actor also plays his father, and I felt like he really was a singer in the. Sixties that I make that up? I think so, yeah, but he could have been, you know, he so so I will tell you the viewing experiences that you instantly fall in love for this troubled depressed, the central character. Who's who's just fallen apart completely beginning the first time you've seen first time you meet them in a park. And yeah, he's playing guitar, and he's being asked to leave by the local constable. But then enter who's going to be the villainous thing. I'm trying to figure out and then your character who who again, you meet him. He's just tied asked right, but he really does as was threatened by the show's creator. Steven Conrad becomes a a central villain in in a sense that has nothing to do with espionage, but just the central character's life. When you think about who, what? What is the greatest conflict in that character's life? It's you and that doesn't make any fucking sense just in terms of designing a story as a writer? Yeah, as a member of the writers goes as nineteen eighty seven. I'm here to tell you that doesn't make any sense. It's genius on a level that's exac we're not used to and also the fact that that guy is ruining my life. Well, that's what's so funny. Yeah, because as much of a conflict as your character slowly becomes for for him. Mm-hmm. He is absolutely the main conflict in your life and we find out later what your life was and where you've gotten to and what an achievement that was to pull your character to pull himself out of a pretty bad situation only to be struck down by this lame depressed seemingly worthless human being. I mean, he is a gift from the moment you meet them in for your character. Yeah, just a waste of space. And yet he keeps thriving despite all the odds. So so that in storytelling is quite unique and wonderful. Yeah. In terms of these two characters going at it and at odds, how? Yes. So as you're getting its script for the first season and then you didn't because we seen the pilot by the time. We started the second. By the time we started the rest of the season, and so then it was very, you know, and then we were shooting episode by episode as opposed to the second season where we shot all eight episodes once like an eight hour movie. But the first season we shot up. So by some pretty much a couple of times we shot maybe two together. So you first of all you were every waiting for the script because they're so jazz. We were all so jazzed by the show. Sure. There were always waiting. See what happens next week for us as well. Other houses going. You couldn't have predicted and female detective character Horaya crap with her little girl. Yeah, absolutely. And. So that that just feeds into it then you know, because everybody's everybody's so excited and he can really when you read the script, you can just see it. You know, especially Jimmy. The photographer. He's just he just such terrific work assured out and worked so well with with the actors and and and the camera operator, Jody. I was really, really great team all the way around. Yeah, yeah. Everybody just loved to come into work every day. Well, I would think so. Yeah, I would think so. Also the oddly in shape character who works within the company who is gets a doormaster, stab him to get him out of the way Chris ridiculously and shape. Chris. Yeah. Who's your brother of Steve Conran. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. And so clearly not cast out of nepotism because the guy. Great, Chris's. Great on the show. Yeah, we'll also there's this weird Clark Kent thing happening because his glasses on your thinking, he's supposed to come off as a little Nebi. She guy, but underneath it isn't very structurally, handsome face to begin with those who are they kidding with this guy? What's what's and then the moment comes. He lets everyone know just what kind of shape is. You know, it says, confusing, as I've said in terms of what the fuck just happened. Well, that's the thing. It's it's darkly and so dry. The humor and the shots when he's when the main character's sitting in those cement brought pipe? Yeah, yeah. Pipe out in the middle of nowhere adjacent to the company. I'm supposing. And this shot is a seems like kind of a why the compositions beautiful. He's in the center of it inside this giant cement tubing and. Chris Conrad could becoming at him from one direction. You see him way off in the distance you enter from states left. Do the whole thing was Chris still approach still approaching that crates shot alone. It belongs in the museum of modern broadcast because it's a clinic. Yeah. So yeah. So. When you're out there working on a show like that and you, you're getting the scripts. The rest of the world does not know what you're working on. There. I mean, certainly I had a similar experience on the Mazel show the first season before it before it drops. Nobody knows what it is you're working on. You just have a sense of will. This is fucking magical. Yeah. I don't know if anyone's going to give a good goddamn, but it's what we're doing is pretty weird and wonderful, and it's what you wanna do. It's why you got in right swag on in the business. Yeah. And I feel like in your case and I, I feel for myself. So I'm curious if you feel it. When you do work at that level. There. It feels like a second or third act of one's life. It's so potent in terms of as you just said, realising why you got into this to begin with, there's a, you know, while being gainfully employed all these years as we have every now and then you step in something that is of a different ilk. Terry, oh, Clinton iron. I went to my wife and I went to Chicago to see him. He he and his lady live in Virginia and they were doing something in Chicago. So we went to Chicago to meet them just hang out for week. They were doing something at an improv theater and. So we had multiple dinners over the week and you know people asking people ask you, I'm sure you know what kind of role would you like to get to do this? What would you like to do? I'm always like. Yeah. And Terry was saying, he's the same way and the way he put it is what I wanna do is scripts like what? Steve Conran rights, you know, that's it's like the whatever the character is going to be going to be interesting if it's done by an exceptional writer. Yeah, you know, I, it always starts on the page and that's what we always say. And to make that you've just made that point a little. But it goes right back to the beginning because it's like when you're when you're a kid and you start doing you discover Shakespeare, it's like, holy shit. This is fantastic. You know, this is exciting in wonderful to do, and then you know, and then you go on and then you do much schlocky stuff here and there throughout your life, you know, and then you're making money and you know, people recognize you. That's all fine. But maybe it's whatever not Shakespeare, none of it's Shakespeare, but you know, then you stumble. Into something like RoboCop our new stumble, and then later on you stumbled into something like seventy show and they change your life at trying to know and they change you as a performer as well, so that that's really what you want. You want those things that are going to excite you and change you, right, and challenge and challenge, you always challenging. Yeah, that's what makes it exciting, right, and wonderful one, it's challenging. Right? And because I wanted to get back to, when you said about when you first got the script, you said, well, this feels like something. I've already done the character, the characters, certainly the character, not the show. So it was the the whole of it that excited you. Whereas the character, not necessarily in the pilot, and then Steve explained, he's going on a journey and as those scripts start to roll out and that journey starts to unfold, you've got a feel like, oh, well, this is something I've never done. Yeah, I've never. And then we get to another new level. All of his past. Yeah, characters passed by. Oh, I see. Yep, I it's like. I didn't know when we shot the pilot and he sent me. He called me and said, I'm going to send you this for the first. The second episode of the show, what was the first of the regular series and we serve sure. And he called me about a month early signing to send you this scene because I'm gonna shoot this one and you know it's, it's, it's kind of tricky for, you know, I was like, all right. So get to say. You know, I have a two page speech. That's gobbledegook. It's truly gobbly Gook. I'm still not sure what the company does other than you make pipe and fitting. Right, and that's all you need to know, but, but I thought, holy small, you know, and it took a while, you know, you had to memorize it like a Shakespearean speech. She worse because you had to invent you had invents what it meant, how does it didn't really make sense? But for some of us that issue. There. True. I see. I have to have someone either explained to me what this that's right or I have to make it up for my in the folders at dishes when they would be on the other side of the page. You know, on the back page, it would be a little things explaining what the lines meant on the bench, but you didn't have that with that. No. So that's why it took a little bit longer to learn, but and then at the same time, then he sends me three and I go jail prison. But when he when I read the pilot and I thought this guy so great original fresh and when he tells me my character characters going on an adventure, I believe, you know, because I have the proof right here as to what kind of writer is. Yeah, yeah. Where he come from Steve Gordon, not. All right. He's written a number of movies. I'm trying to think. One of the more recent ones was with Ben Stiller. The thing about wasn't what many was I'm ultimately it was one. Yeah. So I remember looking him up a little bit. I'm sorry. I put you on the spot like that. The truth is he his writing did not suggest I don't think that, no, because most of the scripts followed a sort of tradition. Well, even even Walter Mitty. Yes, because it comes from the short story. You know, kind of follows normal pattern. Even some of his earlier films when you know his writing and you know his dialogue, then you can see it in the earlier film can go back in the weatherman which is kind of looney, Nick gage movie, loved it. Yeah, scrape. And that's, that's Steve's and some of the other ones. And it was finally when he did a movie and. They didn't get it. Whoever was directing the movie, that's when Steve was light. No more, right. I'm only doing movies that I have control over and and they he and his partner. We're trying to figure out what to do, what are they going to TV or whether they're going to go to and just focus on features and. What made the difference is that the kind of things that they are doing on cable? You said all of a sudden, you know, you do eight ten episodes. It's like it's like one project. It's like a novel. It's like one thing that you one one big story that you right as opposed to just dragging out twenty two every year. And that's why he, that's why he felt it. It's more creative to do a scripts mostly written Atta timers. Well, certainly were when we were in France. When we did season two, they were all written eight episodes and now, so that allows him to be on set. Yeah. Yeah, he directed. Yes. He directed the whole season the whole season. The second season right first season he directed. I want to say a few of them, at least, but. They brought in a few people and Jimmy, the DP directed one of them. But Steve was always there lurking. But the second season. Yeah, literally, we'd you would do as you would do. Within a week you would do well within a day you would do scenes from the first episode in the sixth episode and then the next day it'd be doing eight episodes and so right. You had the whole season in your head as opposed to an episode at a time, right? Which is a different experience, different experience altogether. What are you. When I'm asked, what am I allowed to tell people about season two Mazel? I'd just say, all I can tell you is first of all, low, your expectations. It's always a good idea. But then know that we as a fan of the show, I feel we we exceeded expectations which had been raised to absurd level because because the the universe of the show is more ambitious. Is that also true of season to do feel? Because to me, I felt the first season was wildly ambitious in terms of its universe. So does it expand or is it a contract or both? It expands it. It's wild. Second season is wild. Well, it's an interesting word to use. Yeah, descriptive wild because it's it's the word I would use for season one. Yeah. And it's you're saying, it's all caps and underlined its what Steve calls it this season's really while, and, oh my God. It is, you know, in my characters, just everything starts right where it left off, what it just takes off. Yeah. I mean the things that he goes through the John, the character, John, Michael Dorman goes through our amazing and also Terry. The father? Yeah. And he and I. Building on that relationship that we had at the end of the first season. Terry's character, and my character have have a lot more to do together in the second season. But he goes through some heavy changes and mom is brought into the show. Okay. Bye. Debra winger. Wow. Yeah. And. As I said, you know, the whole thing takes place in France with a couple of little side trips to Luxembourg. So less duck hunting or more. Would you say less duck hunting or more e n? No duck owning, but well, there's a flashback to duck on. Okay, that's all I. Yeah there is because because I felt like that sequence those sequences when I felt the most stress, I thought really bad things are going to happen there in duck on there are so many bad things that can happen in the second season. Yeah, that well, that's just exciting. Yeah. Buddy and he's got a new show who has a new Steve has another show. Halt. Our Lady of perpetual grace limited. And Ben Kingsley, and it's a limited series or limited is in the types that in the title. Okay. Ben Kingsley and Jackie Weaver Australian actress and. Jimmy Simpson. Sure. They're and they're kind of leads, I think. So he didn't feel we infield challenged enough by the work of patriot. I mean, it really isn't astonishing body of work. Yeah, in itself. He hasn't been picked up the third season, you know, I mean, he heard positive feeling based on the second season in and Amazon says lots of positive stuff about the second season. So I'm in, there's an executive Amazon who oversees drama, let's not get into name. Yeah, I know who you mean. Yeah. Yeah. Single syllable, first word, first name, and he noticed on social media that I wouldn't shut the fuck up about paying and asked me. One of the Mazel table reads, if I wanted to participate in the in the push for season two and I said, all do pretty much anything you'd like me to do because it is the greater show that not enough people know about and it has fallen prey to. There are five hundred scripted, and so what everything and anything that can be done. So I I do know that just from my conversations with him that they are in fact building a campaign because they believe in the show. Yeah, that's that's great to hear. Sure. Is great to hear from somebody that's not a mutt even involved in show because that's what we're hoping for. You know, I think the fact that we kept getting pushed in terms of when it goes on made everybody a little what's going on, you know, right. But we kept hearing that they love it. They love it. They love it, but you know. So this is great here. Yeah. Well, I had worked with one of the actors on the show who also producer Gil, Gil, yeah, years ago, Miami rhapsody. Little film, but David Frankel wrote and directed. He's one that went onto Devon were prod and bunch of other great things. So I've known him a long time. The full guy. Yeah, and and wonderful actor. And he plays such a stooge of character on the show. Just just horrible laser such realm which he plays so well, but but I feel like he was a big champion for the project for a very long time. I ran into him at the television critics awards. Or a critics choice awards. And we talked a little bit about the importance of somehow letting the world know about this extrordinary Jeff hard. Yeah, it's hard getting your friends to watch it. You know? That's right. You say, you know you do everything again. You say it's the best thing that I've done. Wow, it must be great. Yeah, please want. Oh man for sure. I will. Yeah. How's that show going again? What's the call. Phone? Yeah, a mental Wadad. It's no one's fault because there's too much. Yeah. Yep. -solutely. Well, listen, whether we have the date exact or not. We people will know soon enough that season two is coming and please if you are within your reach of my voice and you enjoy entertainment that is head and shoulders above everything else. And again, imagine soda Berg, Wes Anderson the Cohn brothers got together and decided to do show that's very dry and dark comedy drama with espionage at the center of it somehow and also a piping company out of, is it miss concert Milwaukee? Yeah. Yeah. If that doesn't intrigue you enough, it should. Now court would we've reached a point in the show called ask Kevin where you are allowed to ask me any question. It can be sincere. Can't be silly. It can be meaningless or meaningful or none of those. But you are allowed only one question only one I could time these aren't. These aren't meant to be easy. I, you know, the pressure is always that you feel like you have to ask something. Deep, but I just don't deal. Don't have to ask something, you know. So. You can ask about an actual run. I had with Christopher. Welcome what? Oh yeah, this I wanna hear. I do one here so I've been doing improv. I've never. I've never told the guests before. What question to ask me Mark that down where you Sam. So I've been doing the impression of him and I started doing impression Christopher Walken pretty early in the now largeness of it's become pedestrian. Everyone can do a bad Christopher Walken if they tried to many people try, there are if you type in into Google search, Christopher impersonation sometime over sixty thousand search answers. Come up. I'm not exaggerating their five pages on YouTube dedicated to Asians, doing Christopher Walken and they are fucking. So speaking of breaking through the noise I am number one on that Google search now be that as it may. I started doing it on talk shows. I think that's how people find out about it clearly not just because I'm at a party think I can do it. So then I get this call to be one of the two only two speakers at the ceremony when Christopher Walken gets his hands feet and signature in the cement in front of the what was that Mann's Chinese theatre on Hollywood Boulevard. It is a rare honoring of any talent it they've run out of real estate is the biggest problem. Unlike the star in the waka fame which is a very big deal, but you can buy those for fifteen hundred dollars. Now. Whereas the hands and feet and second and cement is an extraordinary. The other of the only two speakers Trump doesn't even have and won't the other speakers Quentin Tarantino. I'd never met Christopher Walken. So I know when they call an asked me to be one of the two speakers, it's because I do this impersonation but I felt bad for him. This is a very big honor. Shouldn't they have people that mean something to him in his life? But that's where I found out that he knew about it the impression because there's, I don't know twenty thirty members of the press that have gathered to stand in front of the podium where Quentin Tarantino spoke I and you know, it's Tarantino's. He'll speak till you shoot him in the head. And had you know, lovely personal stories to tell. Whereas I'm just this idiot monkey, who does the voice. So I, I own that I copped to that Christopher Walken standing over my shoulder as I'm speaking at this podium and I, I said, well, clearly I'm gathered here to be a part of this because of the impersonation. And then I did with Halloween coming up. I did Kris told the story of how I like to scare the kids when they come to the door. And I my favorite ways to answer the door Christopher hay kids trick trade. So damn good question. Quite the conundrum as fate would have it. I two of a question which one little pricks can guess what I've buried under my house kids where you're going. So. As I'm telling that doing that bit, not even a story because it didn't really happen. I see Christopher Walken over my right shoulder slowly, bending at the ways forward in laughter, and there's a little lunch thing afterwards. And that's where I sit next to find out that he likes it knows about it, but it's still surreal. Because of also always said, is someone who doesn't persons. There's no reason to do it if the actual persons there. Because it's a parlor trick. If I can think of someone you like and I can recreate them well enough Allsteel the affection, you have the actual person. But if the actual person standing there, I'm just a monkey doing voice because you can't beat the real thing. Did you would have to write the speech for the real? That's right. Yeah, and much more magical if you magin ringing the doorbell of Christopher Walken house on trigger on Halloween instead of me acting that. So you see the chasm between these two things and then Jamie and I went to see Christopher Walken and the mcdonagh play of beheading in Spokane on Broadway. And so after it's great, you know, mazing actors, Sam, Rockwell, and Anthony Mackie, and the actress whose name I always forget. She's so brilliant, just four hundred. So afterwards, I say, well, let's go up. Jamie, you haven't met him. We, we go to dressing him, say Hello and stage manager. Hi, I guess a friend of Chris? Yeah, series of to. So we go up there. He is. He welcomes us in, we sit down as he sits in front of the makeup. It takes his makeup off. And if I hadn't asked a couple of questions, no one would have spoke the entire time we were there. Wow. Yeah, which gives you the feeling maybe you weren't welcome to begin with. Because a man is play. Looks like it's just an incredible thing to be a part of. Yeah. And then back to the makeup, lot of one word answers and you know, not not unpleasant or seemingly put off by us being there just very little, which left me with, okay. This was maybe as surreal and and as bizarre of of owed experiences as I may not have known I wanted, but did. So yes. So my world around him has been both of those bizarre think it's and then someone sent me a clip of him on on Conan work. Conan ask, said, you know, a lot of people impersonate you, do you have a favorite? And he said, well, Kevin does a great, and then there was a debate online, whether it was Kevin Spacey or me at any rate that's a Christopher Walken story. Now, the last part of our show is called Kevin's pop quiz. Yep. I'm going to ask you three questions between five and fifteen points possible for each of these three questions. Once the final score is tabulated it'll be posted on our website along with the current standing at the top one hundred. Are you ready? Okay. Question number one, Keith, David, or David, Keith. Oh. David, that's correct question to Carl weathers or the weather in Carlsbad. Carl as also true. Last question, Steve Conrad, correct. There's this three for three. He's in the top one hundred mmediately. Thank you so very much. Thank you, Kevin. This is fun. Yeah, just a conversation, longtime fan. And likewise. Yeah, thank you very much for that. And thanks for sharing. With with with candor knees as much of your stories I could get out of you today. Sometime in November season two patriot. In the meantime, it might be the ninth time go to Amazon prime right now. You've already got it just to get the two day shipping, and now you've got all this free program. That's right. So checkout season one's checkout season patriot and right to me at KP CS fan, mail, Djamil dot com. And I will read your letters and your love, and instant infatuation with a show called patriot on Amazon prime. Toward Smith. Thank you. Thank you. All right. 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Are you Meant for More? How to Discover Your Unique Value with Lisa Sasevich

Entrepreneur on FIRE

35:55 min | 1 year ago

Are you Meant for More? How to Discover Your Unique Value with Lisa Sasevich

"Shake the room fire nation J. L. D. here with an audio masterclass on. Are you meant for more how to discover your unique value to drop these value bombs? I are brought Lisa. Sassa Vich on the Mike inside every one of us fire nation is a feeling that just won't go away in the internal knowing that we are meant for more Lisa had that feeling in use it to propel her into a life of abundance and contribution beyond her wildest dreams. She went from being fired from her dream job the night before Christmas Eve to building a home based business a jury and over forty million dollars in sales all with two young children in tow. She's known by many as the Queen of sales conversion and has taught over fifteen thousand mission driven entrepreneurs in one hundred thirty four countries how to sell without being pushy or sales easy today. She is here to share what she calls her meant for more formula in fire nation. We were talking about so much awesomeness including the decision not to live a WOULDA COULDA shoulda life in instead being more in living more in doing more in fire nation. We'll be talking about so much more as soon as we get back from thinking sponsors finding a watch that's high quality good looking and priced fairly isn't easy and that's exactly what. Venturo IS HERE TO CHANGE. Get fifteen percent off your entire order today. Plus Free Shipping. When you visit Vincenzo watches dot com slash fire in use Promo Code Fire Fifteen. The one funnel away challenge from Click funnels support you from day one through day thirty to help you get your funnel live in. Just thirty days joined the next one funnel away challenge for just one hundred dollars at eofire.com funnel. That's ill fire dot com slash funnel. Lisa say what's up to fire nation and share something interesting about yourself that most people don't know what I would say. Most people don't know that I got in for the stage and cameras since long before now. I was in elementary middle school when my mom decided let's get into some extra work so I ended up doing TV and one of my claims to fame is. I did the very first. Mcdonald's soft ice cream a commercial. There was a day before when McDonald's didn't have ice cream cones and he had to take that we do the shot so many times. I think I looked hundred. Fifty ice cream cones you in my hand and then they do the shot and it was like a dream. Come true as seeing you pre interview. You need to put that on your about me page. Because about eight years ago I actually was on. The price is right and then I want a car on the prices right so I like really went all the way with and I put that video clip on my about me page and literally the first thing people talk about when they see me. They're just like I watched a clip of you and the price is right. But what about my twenty five hundred podcasts episodes? They're like no but you were on. The price is right like people just like love that stuff. So it's such a cool connection so true I was opening. We just came off a ten year. Run and you've joined me here you've been on my stay. Oh Yeah we could. We intend yours. We did twenty consecutive seven figure producing events in a row. Why we didn't miss a year. We just that's how we deliver that so much. People love our work and you know what the big women got a chance. You waited in a long line to talk. Need to get a photo in which she said was in that opening segment. When you turned around in blue your nose I do. You were so real bleeding on the stage for three years to teach you how to get out there with your gift and sell more. They'll be sales as you remember. I lose interviewing something like two hours ago and after we were done. His dog just randomly started barking. He's like I'm so grateful that the dog waited 'til we were done. I'm like no it's the opposite. I'm like people would have been talking about your dog. They would've known your dog's name. They would've loved that part of the interview like that's what people connect with fire nation. They connect with real news with authenticity. And Lisa you bringing that for so so long now. And that's why as I told all of fire nation during the introduction. Your new book meant for more as like just like this combination of everything even focused on for so long. So what inspired you to write this book? This thing is like taking my life. And if you've ever heard the saying when you write a book that's Business Development and personal development this is called a straddle book because it really hits both sides. Yeah Rams Your Life and takes you with it so there's no You know writing a book and thinking you're GonNa have this separate experience so I've been on my own meant for more journey you now all these years but especially it's been elevated right now and what inspired me was two things one is really of what I see. I told you we had ten years events and just people from all over the world and we also coach people through virtual platforms like zoom. So I can see them and the thing that I see in their eyes and I see in your eyes and that I see when I look in the mirror is that that feeling inside that we all have that tries to push down in sub diets. It just won't go away and it is the best way I can say it is. It's the feeling knowing that we were. We are meant for more. And you know it's it's it's at our work or more that we could make more contribution that there's more available to give and for our families and so many people just don't have the feeling. But how do I take the first step and I think that the passion for that really came from something much earlier in my life I I know it did I grew up in Los Angeles. Canoga Park used a little like a modest area. My mom was a single mom working all the time. It was myself and my younger brother and I came to San Diego State to go to college. I was out nineteen getting almost to the end their college when I got a phone call. That came out of the blue that my mom her name was Aina. She'd been diagnosed with lung cancer and we didn't have any history of that in our family and literally. It just happened also announcing so fast. Within ten months I was driving home from college going to pick her up in the hospital where she was just at a point where she was on so much pain medication and didn't have long last. I'm brought her home to our own modest home. We snuggle in her bed and literally. She took her last breath in my arms. I wasn't ready for that. Not Ready for that. Know nobody was ready for that and a lot of it after. That moment was so present for that moment I remember the breath rate here and then there's a blur lake. You know a lot of things moving parts. I don't remember a lot. I remember people feeling really awkward around me really awkward around my brother not knowing what to say when we had this memorial in our backyard blue grassy backyard and her family our family in her friends from work and people came and I remember just kind of you know over hearing all these groups of people talking about my mom saying you know I anna. Oh if only she would have left at corporate cubicle. Done something else. You know she. She really should have on our on her own cash. Only she'd have supported us and it was like from that moment on this symphony in my head but he just could not shake out just hearing their voices what could Shoulda Woulda Coulda Shoulda. I just burned in me. And maybe like in her name in her legacy Decision I know how I was going to do it but I made a decision that I was like at mine memorial service people were not going to be saying. I woulda Coulda should be talking about what I did in the risks. I took in how I went for it. And I wasn't gonNA live Woulda Coulda Shoulda life. That's the gift. My mom gave me really that day. I mean everything I've been able to accomplish all contribution I've been able to make the anchor for that and I feel like it's at that's the legacy and so I kind of went on a quest through personal development. Hiring Mentor you know. I got exposed to things and learned steps that she didn't learn and I think that's the difference. You know making choice to your to know how you're going to do it but making your choice that you're not gonna live at what could should away and then you open up after you make that decision to kind of see what comes in your sphere. I maybe entering your sphere right now. Divine appointment maybe. You made a decision where you're making an hour and it's like. Oh here's somebody who actually might be able to share some parts of the path so so this book is really for me. It's like the purpose driven lies of this age Nondenominational denominational purpose driven life. How do you? How do you do you take? What's the first thing to do if you really really really want to discover what you were made for and then make a difference? Amick mild with it. So let's be honest Lisa because you're a genuine person. I try to be as transparent as possible and you know. I don't really want to just say things how they aren't because most people right. Now they are living the WOULDA Coulda Shoulda life and frankly is sad. So let's talk right now about how those individuals who are not that they're gonNA be looking back when they're eighty when they're ninety and they're going to be like. Oh what a COULDA Shoulda. How can those individuals transition into actually being more living more in doing more first thing? Is We want to respect that. It's a journey. You know there is a journey to what I call discovering your unique value. Another way I like to talk about it as your million dollar value unit. Call it that because it's like what is that thing that's so precious that that is uniquely yours on the planet to provide and you know with some of the things we'd been through this year as a planet. I feel like this is more important than ever We each have something that comes from. You know are the schools we've been through. May We got some of US have formal school collagen certifications. Formal Education Some of us most of us have what all the school of hard knocks. There's all the challenges that we learned from. We've have different spiritual schools that each of us have been through and try different things connected in different ways relationship. Schools writers like we all have this unique collage of what what gets us. What I call on our dime you know so your unique value or being on your dime. It's kind of like imagine that you know here yard is the bit floor the world and like you know on the floor is a dime. This little spot. You know when you're on your dime when you're living your unique value. It's it's it's a journey toward when I call the meant for more journey is real Meant for more formula. What are the steps to do this? It's a journey toward getting all ten toes on that dying your spot in a universe where you make the difference you know you are such a great example. I mean you know so much about everything from your voice to your demeanor to your experience you were just sharing some military experience. Even the price is right Like sharing things personally before the talked All of that has made you the perfect person and you know fire. Nation is is your dying man. It's y you know we love it so much and we just is where beast honey. Because you're on your time it and and you know another great example just to kind of give us a little. More color is oprah. I mean so brave right for twenty five years. She had that show. That was. That's with someone. Looks like on their die right. You know it's magnetic. It was what she was made or all tough childhood journalism background. All of it. And you know what I love so much about. Washing her story is that even with that and some of you have this like you did really well somewhere but now a meant for more feeling feeling is coming up and you know. I'm disturbed it. That's what happened to over she. Who would have ever thought of ending that that you show right right? I mean you never would believe it but that feeling was coming up honor it. She knows it's one of her saying if you don't take the tap you're going to get the two by four right. She did the courageous move without fully knowing what was next right. She had some vision of the own network. But we're still watching her today moving toward her dime with that right. She doesn't have all ten toes on that time yet. It's amazing huge contribution right but it's like it's watching someone in their courageous journey. So that's another piece of the met for more journey is. There is some wedding go. There's some trusting that ceiling that's coming up and under some actual steps to take so I I just WanNa say thank you for the kind words in something that we did talk about pre interview you offered soup potentially help me name my book and I'm going through this process and you know a lot of people might say that I'm GonNa be like Oh. Yeah thanks like never check back in. But it's just like you are so good when it comes to that kind of stuff and like that is just one of your unique values that you have. Is You just so great? It's naming things and creating movements and really just kind of getting people on their path like I'm like you bet I'm taking you up on that like we are definitely having a conversation because I know your feedback is going to be so super valuable and I just love how you in general talk about our unique values so how can fire nation hone in on their unique value. I love it And thank you. I know when I see my light up with year. What is your the title and jumping for joy that day? I can't when you're ready to what your mind unique value. You know I. I can't help it. I'm all about people being constant ready with their offer. So knowing how to use the words to communicate your offers expression of my unique value right and for all of you to know what you offer know how to talk about it You know that that everything. We're talking about all of my dime on. So how can fire nation hone their unique value? I WANNA give jokes that fire nation and really everybody on this class today can start using right now Let's see if we can talk about a couple of these chips and and then actually I created a many course called. Discover your unique value. We are all set to sell it five hundred dollar tours and then within happening in the world at his year. I decided to give it away for free right now. There is in my opinion. You know more than watching news talk. Seven Twenty Four. Like being in introspective mode and really figuring out the contribution you can make. I mean there's anything more timely so so we have this ad many or is called Unique value it's my guest today In just a minute I'll tell you how to get it but let me pull some things right out it That fire nation didn't use and Egypt. Yuki Nami I'll be curious John how you see it for fire nation. You really cool applied. So so one is one tip. Is that for each one of us? I want you all to consider more like an exercise in this exercise in the in the new mini course look for the places where people constantly want to pick your brain so this is one of the places that you can find. Your unique value is kinda thinking. Conversations is usually kind of like. Hey can I take you out to? Us starbucks. Twenty minutes. Coffee I I really love to pick your brain about how we grow my audience right like I'm sure you get that all right you know and and so for each one of these things in there in all different areas and it might not even be something you thought about. That's why we give you Videos to guide you through a worksheet to fill out because it might be that I have one client where people used to pay randy. How did you get your daughter? Those provisions in high school. You know so that she gets an extra time on task turing All she turned down. Now she's like you know one of the top experts on how to get your kids the extra provisions. They need around learning in public school but it started where she was just figured it out for her own kid. Everybody wanted to know how we found other clients in the health space that they're not doctors but they've done incredible things You know maybe one lady where she figured out how to be symptom free from Multiple Sclerosis and twenty five years of having no symptoms and you know what people always wanted to know. WanNa take her brain so she realized that she has a unique value in really taking complex medical things making simple even though she's not a doctor. So that's that's a clue and you don't curious how that would land for fire. Nation went. Well how does that land for you when you apply it in that way? I really talk more about individual so I see you as fire nation. Yeah absolutely and I think it's a really powerful concept to think about and like a similar away lease that I look at this too. I think the fire nation could use. Maybe prop this. If nothing's immediately coming to mind about somebody asking them to pick their brain on. Xyz Is like going to your friends going to your coffee saying hey let me just pose a question to you if somebody was to walk up to you and say hey what is John good at. How would you answer that question? Then you're just people. Do they think about how they see? You shine what they see as your strength and so like when I do those type of things or just the exact same way that you're just talking about like thinking about how people are asking Pick my brain. One thing would definitely be time management because people say John like how the heck did you for five and a half years published an episode every single day and still managed to run a seven figure like media empire with entrepreneurs on fire and for me like it was so clear and so simple. It's like well. Obviously I batch my episodes like I do eight episodes in one day and I have the rest of the work and things like Oh wait a second. You Bachelor episode. What does that even mean? And I'm like what do you mean? What does that mean? I thought that was so obvious. And everybody does. And it's just like sometimes things that are like kind of simple and clear to us aren't so to other people and obviously goes the flipside like sometimes people are talking. I'm just like wait. What do you mean by that? There is like what do you mean is like? It's so obvious I'm like no. It's not obvious to me. I have no idea what you're talking about but I want to and like to me. That was just one example of something that kind of blew me away where people just like. I never thought about like batching episodes back to back in time blocking off in that way and I was just like. Oh that's interesting so that would kind of be my first response. Lisa in fact. You thought it's almost like you've got a sneak preview of the Discovery Valley. Of course that is another one of the tips. I'M GONNA put a little framework around this awesome piece of value. You just shared about batching posted a question fire nation. What is easy for you that baffles others. Things in the end is another worksheet. You're taking inventory. Jot things down right now as you're listening. What are some things that are easy for you but hard for others? An example for my south you're is time management mine. You know every time anybody in my life you know. Even when I was younger would ever get into a new direct sales or multilevel organization or start anything. They'd always wanted to pick my brain about how to make their offer. You know for me. It's natural it's easy considering a disservice not to write and for those sales part is over finding scary ad and so that's why are businesses. John you know helped people in one hundred thirty four countries now late. It's it's been a Cinderella story so here is here's a here's a counterintuitive takeaway for miss. I'm going to pose this to fire nation. What is you could be paid the most for that which comes the easiest to you. Yummy yummy times thousand. I was thinking. That's his yummy ice cream cone. You used to lick it and McDonald's so true so we are so taught you hard and we have to roll up our sleeves and work at. Yes you have to take steps you need to. You need to learn things. You can't just you know. Just will it all happened? But in the area of the part where you're bringing your unique value and this is whether you have owned businesses an entrepreneur or even if you're still in interpreting newer your existing within a bigger structure on. Or maybe you. WanNa start a sign hustle. I or some of you that you've done you're saying for ten twenty years somewhere and now you WANNA take it out into the world. It's like your second half thing. This is another clue another breadcrumbs look for the places where it's easy for you but hard rather because that really is where you could be the most and I'll tell you I I had a guy flew here from Israel last month due date with me right. It's over twenty four thousand dollar investment flu PLC's from Israel plus. He flew back right. I remember at least ten times during our day together. I add this thought. Am I really getting paid for this was this was such a decline is helping with his offers in helping learn how to speak from stages may offer helping him Structure Event I love to do and you guys when you're working in your unique value at all the time jail like am. I really getting paid for this awesome conversation Literally Eight Times Today. Because you're the eighth of my interviews state and every single time on talking to you and these other. Amino tourism like wait a second. I'm literally making millions of dollars from this podcast every single year. Doing this like talking to awesome people which is exactly why I did it back in twenty twelve because I wanted to have these conversations with the music people because I love it at my core and so we are going to take a quick break Lisa but before we do give us a tease tease. Just give us a direct call to action on where we can get our hands on this gift. All right. Well you all WanNa go now while it is still a gift to met for more gift dot Com meant for more gift dot Com. You put your name and email. You're GONNA get an email from US giving you access into our paid online business academy but for free and you'll be able to do to meant for more discover your unique value. Many course there my gift to you. I can't wait to share all rested exercises with you and fire nation. If you think we're even close to drop in value bombs you've got another thing coming so stick around we will be right back. We're all striving towards different goals. 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And we've been talking earlier today about discovering your unique value to of meant for MORE FORMULA. I want to back up and share. What has to happen before is if you're GONNA turn your knowledge into Providence. There is something that needs to perceive that and we call that making peace with sales so we need to re frame the game in your mind around that five letter word sales something that happens when when you make an offer and someone pays you to be able to take advantage of the transformation you offer to be able to you know. Have that gift to be to be different from working with you from your service from your expertise from your knowledge. And what happens? Is that when people pay they pay attention? Yes and it's some of. You may have heard a student. No I just I listen to you and you talk. Pay attention actually the first time. Put that way by our close friend Christian Right Puerto Rico. Go and so what happens when we let people pick our brain over and over and then they do nothing with it because they didn't pay didn't pay that much attention. Utah Lost Weight and kept it off. You told him how you have such amazing relationship. You told them. How do you make money in the stock market right and they did nothing with it because then you have to pick your brain keep giving it away for free? Here's hurt? Nobody realizes you start to doubt the value of your unique value. You start to doubt if it really makes a difference you start to doubt and you start to put it away. Keep it in the hard drive. I'm not going to be so area. It didn't really help that person anyway. And this is the crime of how so many people's gifts you know that you look across the table and you know they're meant for more but why are they not bringing it out so it's really making peace with sales is really about inspiring another person to say yes not to you. That's the thing where we get tripped up. 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Lisa Nichols On How To Use Your Voice So People Listen

The Mindvalley Podcast with Vishen Lakhiani

36:34 min | 2 years ago

Lisa Nichols On How To Use Your Voice So People Listen

"I Kiani founder of mine valley, the school for human transportation. You're listening to the mind Ali podcast, where we'll be bringing you the greatest teachers and thought lead us on the planet discussed the world's most powerful ideas and personal growth for mind, body and work. Welcome back everyone. I'm so delighted to bring this particular speaker to you. Lisa Nichols needs, no introduction. She is a hit on mine valley. She is probably the person I've put on stage across the world more than any other individual. And this is because Lisa takes a talk and turns it into a combination of spoken word poetry, and inspirational speech and something that gets the entire audience moving and swaying to music. She is remarkably be ever seen her on stage. If you are interested in next ROY Brooks of, on Nichols, voted the mind valley talks YouTube channel, just put in mind valley talks tons of speeches by her, and Lisa focuses on teaching people to use the voice, so others listen how to have the abilities to sway in audience to speak up in a board room how to take your ideas in get them out. Out to the world. He's all about that her program, but nine valley is called speak in inspire, and she is put tens of thousands of students into this program. It's a mind valley question. You can find it on mind body, and it's all about learning to use your voice. It's a thirty day program, and it is one of the most popular programs. We haven't has one of the most active communities because of how Lisa truly wakes you what to what's incite, you. So many of us, I guess, from childhood have suppressed this Boyce. Now in this particular talk, I put lease onstage in mind. Daddy, live in San Diego. And she came to inspire our audience, and lead them through a breakthrough moment. She talks about how the place where your voice will most make a difference is in the trenches the boardroom at community events when you have to share an idea at work when you have to pitch an investor. She's gonna show you how to use your voice in a way where you create an impact and affect people on the planet. There is something special that she's going to teach you called care frontier. It will make you uncomforter-. In any form of mediocrity and she's gonna show you how to be willing to love and show up in a whole other level for the people, you want to communicate with. So I think you're gonna find this extremely interesting. If you wanna watch the video version of it, you will find this on mine. Valley's YouTube channel just such mine valley talks. We have two channels my body, which is short form content and mine, valley talks where you'll find long, the phone content typically speeches from our platforms all around the world that you can watch and listen to, to definitely go ahead and subscribe to both channels. And while you're here, you might as well dive in and listen to this incredible podcast episode with Lisa Nichols. I'm vision Kiani. And this is the mind valley podcasts. Speaking voice message it belongs to all of us the day of stage, speakers only motivational speakers only speaking to sail are long gone. Every single one of us has the voice to use every single one of us has a responsibility to use our voice. I'm here to help you magnify the power of your voice. Wherever you're using it onstage. Great the majority of you want. I hope not. Overrated because the places at your voice gonna make the most difference, or in the trenches in living rooms and bedrooms and offices. At community events and the train station. I hope you don't wait to get on a stage to use your voice. See my best work really was done and is still done off the stage. I simply come on stage to meet a bunch of amazing people, and then we go do work, and other places that matter. So today, I'm going to take you on a journey faster than I'd like, but more powerful than I hope any of you, expect it, I'm going to talk about how do you use your voice in such a way that you infect and affect people and the planet? See orders are all around us orders come in all different sizes ages colors different religious, backgrounds or Tur's, like Mother Teresa, who teaches us the art of humility, and what it means to be a servant leader. Oh, our tears, like Mahatma Gandhi teaching us, that we are the example that we're looking for that. We woke up whole and complete and enough. Or Tur's like small children who say the wisest and funniest things in their transparency. My nephew was sitting on my great uncle Leonard's laugh, and my uncle Leonard, he smoked cigars for like every year of my life. And I at the time was like nineteen and I never saw him without a cigar. So ankle, Leonard smell, like a really old cigar and everyone knew uncle Leonard smell like a cigar. But no one had the courage to tell. I'll go Leonard that he smelled like a cigar. Everybody has had uncle Leonard somewhere your life. Right. Because Leonard was my grandmother's brother. So he at clout. Well, Jimmy was three so he didn't know he hasn't been introduced to being politically correct yet. Thank god. Right. So Jamila sitting on my uncle Leonard's lap. And we're all talking Djamil stops in the middle of a sentence, and he goes. And the first time he's sniff, no big deal. But the second and third time. Then in his little three year old voice I heard. You think? Can you can hear a pin drop in the ruble? And everyone in that moment was grateful that they were not Jemil's mother. And we all gazed at her fan. Mom, bad, mom. The next thing, the fell out ankle, literates mouths shocked. The song he looked at Djamil with a long gays. Kind of not knowing what's about to happen gays and he said, Djamil I think you're right. I think I think. For the first time in my entire life. Uncle lunar put out his cigar. And the next time we saw a Leonard smell, like he had just been washed for days. He was always clean, but his clothes smell like oh cigars and it was very clear that he got new clothes. See the freedom that a child has the truth that they stand with I want to take you on a journey back to that level of truth. I want to take you on a journey on why they say think like a child don't act like a child, but think like a child be as free as the child. See children, have a sense of curiosity children, forgive sooner quicker faster. And if you want something new to come out of your voice, you have to put something new in you, in terms of a commitment, my son, I watched the way he would forgive me. He did something wrong one day and I had to reprimand him and I'm mmediately felt guilty. And I'm in my office, he's like. Four years old. And I'm, I'm my computer and I'm crying, because I'm single mother guilt entrepreneur, and I'm like, and he comes around the corner. He goes, mommy and I just reprimanded him. He's on a time out and all this stuff, and I'm upset, I'm crying. He's okay. And he comes around the corner, and I'm and he says, mommy, mommy, I was like. Yes. Do you want to lay down with me? Yes. And he goes, and he lays out this little skinny arm. And I put my big oh here on that on. There's something that happens when we allow ourselves to sit inside freedom, sit inside transparency, sit inside, what I like to call care, frontier Asian. That means I might push up against you a little bit. I'm might make you mildly some moderately to significantly uncomfortable in any form of mediocrity. But it's out of the spirit of love. You want to inspire people with your voice from your child to your sibling to your significant other to your community to the world to this room. Be willing to love me enough to tell me your truth, then love me enough to tell me macho then love me enough to just tell me the truth, and find be willing to touch the edge of your own comfort zone. You show me yours and I'll show you mine. You show me, your heart, and I'll show you my love. You let me know that you're willing to be imperfect, and still have a perfectly giving serving loving life, then you give me permission to let my imperfection out into the world to see you want to speak at another level. You gotta be willing to love at another level forgive at another level show up at another level speak up at another level. Pray at another level, you have to be willing on every level to up level, who you be on a daily basis. Saying. In recognizing that when you open up and use your voice, everything that comes out after you speak really doesn't belong to you. See is very difficult to speak phenomenally and to not be good. Not be great but to be what? Freakin forgettable is difficult to be unforgettable while you're still trying to look good. You can't do two things. That's chasing. Two rabbits, C unforgettable has everything to do with serving at a level so high so big so massive that people feel like they have to change their lives because they crossed your path. The when you're willing to use your voice. I you have to recognize that you have one, you got to recognize that no matter your past you were given a voice, your voice was given not to keep to yourself. Your voice is not a secret. And you have to be willing to use every experience that's ever happened in your life, not as a fortress holding you from using your voice. What else the fuel on why you will use your voice. You gotta be willing to not stand in your story. But stand on your story. Yes, yes, it's not in spite of your past that you get to be amazing that you get to be a change agent that you'll get to transform lives is because of your past that your perfect for such a job. When you own it like that see there's no question in my certainty about my life. Can you walk with that level of certainty? So that when the wind comes and the one the when blows and it will come and it will blow, and it will be a storm, and it will be a tornado, and it will look like divorce, and it will look like bankruptcy, and it will look like a illness, and it will look like a loss when it comes it will rock, you, it will rock, you, it will rock you. But it won't move you. See when you stand in that certainty, because see at one time, I didn't know I had a voice, I didn't know someone would listen to my voice, I didn't know my voice mattered. I remember I was the first class of bus students to the valley right here in Canoga park. And I always say they told us in the inner city that we were going to the valley, they forgot to tell the valley we were coming. And now remember, I'd never seen myself as anything less than anybody. I just didn't have that conversation until I went there. And I remember they were having tryouts for Charlie's angels. Remember Charlie's angels. You young bucks. I'm not talking about the new ones. Saga about the old school, Charlie angels. You know, fair faucet in K Jackson. Right. And they were having try out for Charlie's angels and the bionic woman. You remember Lindsay Wagner, Lindsay Wagner was amazing. And I said, oh, my God. This is my chance. See, I had been teased every day of the school year. I, there was this one kid, Bryan. And Brian would remind me every day that got it made a mistake, when God created me he would say things like Lisa God dropped you in the tar pit and God left. You in the oven too long as summarize it as AM GAAS mistake really an every day, Brian will do that. So about three months in to the school year when they had try outs. I was always athletic will lived in south central soldiers fast. Let me be honest and clean. But we can transcribe that athletic. And so when they had try outs, I said, oh, my God, if I try out, and I make it and I become one of Charlie's angels, or become the Biannic woman. Then I belong, see, I just wanted to belong, anybody know what I'm talking about when you just wanted to belong, whether you wanted to belong to your family you wanted to belong to your community. I just wanted to belong by any means necessary. So I was excited on this day. I mean, I'm practicing at home. I'm doing all the little things I think they might ask us to do in forty girls. Forty excited girls stepped up to the line to be considered to do the three challenges you have to cross in order to become one of the Charlie's angels, or the Bannock woman, I was the only little chocolate grow here. Just looking like a little kiss. So the first event was the hundred yard dash ready set. Go, and I ran ran ran when I crossed the finish line, the first person that just hit the fifty yard Mark. Lisa Nichols wins the first of it on my guess, one down two to go. I'm almost in I'm almost gone Bologne second event. Oh my God. It was like they had so many things they kept deciding and now it's like twenty girls left. It's like twenty girls that's been, we're all standing there. And they're okay, so now, we want you guys to jump over chair and every girl jumped over the chair, and they jumped in some didn't quite clear to chair. Some parents have to go to the dentist. Immediately. But I did something different when I've been down to go over the chair. I did a little extra. I when I came up on due to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to, and I leapt over the chair, and I landed, and then I threw so wonder woman owner. They were confused. I don't know what hit or miss it. Lisa Nichols won the second of in as well. And then the third and final vet was the role. Stop in freeze. Sucker. You remember that you not was very important. You have to like do your hair, right? And I did it perfect on the dime. So when the final like eight nine girls of Senator on the line. I'm like, oh my God. My life is going to change right now. I'm going to belong see the people that you're going out to speak to the people that you'll speak to one to one or one too small group are one too many are online through a webinar, or Facebook, however you touch them all they want to do as belong. And so I'm standing on the line and on my life is about to look way, different. Like the first thing I'm gonna do is get my other Charlie's angels girl. Get my bond woman, and we're going to punch Brian. I gotta get in. I got to give in. I mean I wasn't a fifth grade, y'all. Right. And so they said, Charlie's angels, number one. Diane. Okay. That's not money. Diana's excited Oba guy. Yes, yes. She goes to the side. Now, there's three judges three girls and one guy, he must be Charlie was. China's ends number two. Theresa. Okay. Let's go. I got one more Charlie's angels or the bonded woman. That's all right. So I just good. Charlie's angels. Number three. Kim. Good. I like the Vinik woman. Anyway, she just so. All right. That's all right. That's all right. From the body Guaman. Yes. Yes. Yes, the bottom woman is. That's not one day. I thought they made a mistake, they meant to say Lisa until I saw Linda running over to the is jumping up and down and running with her other new team members new super Shiro's jumping up and down. I realized they said they was gonna pick one alternate one alternate. I'll be the alternate is somebody got to get the flu. The chicken pox somebody somebody. I'm gonna be right there. I'm not missing a day of school today. She missed school, how won't be right there. And the alternate. Shelby. I stood there for a moment. I can hear a few bulls. A few people have said my folly mustered up the nerve to go over to the judges, and I still wonder why did I do that? His sent me in a spiral for years. But in the moment, I didn't know what they were about to say. I didn't know what was about to hit me right in the face. I said, skills me, why didn't you choose me? I want every single event ran the fastest Spro stop them freeze suck on the diamond the asphalt was hot I jumped over the chair, and I made the sound effects. And one of the judges. Long beautiful blonde hair. She said Lisa, we know you want every event, but we couldn't choose you. Which Charlie's angels are the bond woman. Will you ever look like? And that day was the day that I began to blame myself for my story. I don't know if any of you have ever been born into a conversation or an experience the economic reality, geographical location, and origin, a culture religious anybody, and you ask yourself one there, another. Why me here, and so I begin this conversation? Why me why me this skin? Why made this community? Why made this culture? Why made this family? Why can I been born in Canoga park? Why visited where it looked like everything was great. And they got to be the super. She rose why for the next fifteen years. I asked that for the next fifteen years, I set inside a personal blame and more than anything shame conversation. Anybody know what I'm talking about for the next fifteen. All I tried to do was prove I was good enough prove our smart enough prove that I was worthy of choosen. And then I discovered that. I wanted to begin to use my voice. I could hear this thing in my voice when I spoke, and I said, I think there's something I think there might be a gift up under all that junk, and I begin to try my voice out. And I was in a church delivering home. I won't do all of it. But the beginning of it was something like this, my beautiful sisters frying their brains going insane, right at the end of my block. My beautiful brothers exterminating. Terminating and self assassinating all for the sake of the rock at the end of my block. See it was about my community, and it was in my church, I wanted to let them know that I saw them. My mother, my beautiful brothers exterminating terminating and self-assessment all for the sake of my book. Mom was being robbed on my back doorstep. Babies are being killed right at my feet. Brothers executing brothers on my front lawn. Oh, someone's grandfather is dying from not enough to eat right at the end of my block. What is this bizarre to raise insane occurrence? This is life breath in existence. In my world at the end of my block. Should I run should I hide should I leave the him want to cry? Should I become a part of the problem? Lord. How do I become a part of the solution? All's I know is that I will be a part of something good right here right now on my block. And at the end of the speech, I got a ROY standing ovation from the fifteen thousand people that were in this church. It was the biggest standing ovation biggest audience I'd ever spoken front of. And as I'm walking through the audience people are put their hands on my shoulders. Lisa job. Well done, Lisa job. Well done, Lisa job, well done, and all of a sudden, I heard this voice that was so familiar with this hand on my shoulder. She said you were amazing and I turned around and I looked. And it was televisions by onic woman. Lindsay wagner. Middle east. I wanted to be on a fifth grade. Ram real fast, I won every event, you know how you hold onto your junk. Right. Come on you guys. How many of you, your future is trying to open up to you, but you won't let go your pass come on. You guys come on. You guys. Let's just how to truth. There's a lesson in this story, so many things are trying to come to you, so many doors trying to open. But we're so attached to we've been that we can't quite become all of who were supposed to be in that moment. I, I said, I I I did you I I I've been down? I jumped out due to. No. Really? I did that. I said it. I'm not just saying that for y'all. I mean, I was all in my story, some us all in our story. And I looked at her. I said. They said I couldn't be you because I was black. They said I couldn't be you because I'd never looked like you. And I knew I never make myself look like you do a lot of things. Well, but I don't do blonde. I didn't say that Barbara, I have to say that. I said, I wanted to be you, and they wouldn't let me be you. And I, I began to cry, as you can see steel years, later, steel that thing for me. And she looked at me. She said sweetheart. She said, I'm an actress. She's a I'm in Hollywood. She said you with your journey. You are the true by onic woman. And. Something shifted that day I no longer could fit in my old story there becomes a time when you no longer fit in your old story. At think that day is today that there's a new part to trying to be born for you and it requires you to own every part of the past, but own every part of the possibility and on the other side of that the diamonds that will drop out of your mouth. The diamonds that will come bar thing from your soul. The seeds that will be planted in the harvest that will grow, you will be barely recognizable, but better than that are the people around you how their lives will shift because when you change you is just one person. But when you become a force to be reckoned with, then your voice permeates over eight hundred people or so. I wanna play a piece, because we all have passed we all have journeys. We're all finding ourselves finding our souls finding who we are rediscovering, we're all reinventing ourselves, but we I have to give ourselves permission to be reinvented. We have to give ourselves permission to be rediscovered by us give ourselves permission to fall real hard stay down, sometimes too long. And steel. Get back up mighty and strong. I just believe that that's where you are. That's why you're here listening to this message. I want you to listen to something I want you to hear something see something it'll sound familiar to you'll know where it comes from, and I want this piece. To start your soul to disrupt you because one of the other points of being a powerful messenger is you have to be willing to disrupt and be disrupted I green. One day on the red. Neil? Funds a former slaves and the son of former slave on. We'll be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood, I have a dream. One day. Even the state of Mississippi State sweltering with the heat in Justice. Sweltering with the heat of oppression be transformed into an oasis of freedom, and just as I have a dream. My poor little children. One day live nation where they will not be judged by the color of skin. But by the content of back, Eric, I have a dream. I have a green that one day. In Alabama with its vicious racist with this governor, having his lips dripping with the words the position, another vacation one day. Right. That in Alabama little black bars and black girls will be able to join hand a little white bars and right? Girls have sisters and brothers. I have a dream today. What most of you don't know is that that's the same man. That set at his dining room table in wrote a letter to God about. Six years prior to that message. And in his letter to God, he said, I'm scared. I'm afraid and I wanna give up in this letter. I mean, it's true letters, the one that's the least seen but it's the one that's the most inspiring for me. 'cause then this letter he says my father and my mother, constantly worry about me. I have a new wife. He in karate had just been married. He said, I have one beautiful daughter. He had only had one child at the time. He said in there now throwing bombs through my windows. I'm afraid. And in the same letter he says, I wanna quit, you don't see that to king like that. See that wasn't Dr king sitting at the dining room table. That was Martin. Lil martin. He said, I'm afraid to keep going. We get this. He said, I'm more frayed that if I stop the people will stop his way. Are you willing to rise above your own fear storms? Are you willing to push pass your own barriers? Are you willing to confront and care front? Your needs to be a validated in every moment for the sense of growing, who you are, are you willing to confront across the nation. Are you willing are you willing to do what Martin had to do every time I read this letter, I cry because that's me and that letters me. I don't know if I'll be that garage hope to one day, I get to touch the world. Maybe a smidgen of how he does it. But I know that Martin at the dining room table and soda you. When I look at the Nelson Mandela spent twenty seven years in prison and came out and let the largest forgiveness movement on the planet. But also realize that that's the same Nelson Mandela that had bust so much limestone year after year day after day hour after hour that he can never look into a camera directly and he could no longer cry because his tear ducts had dried out. The sacrifice for the service. Are you willing? Willing to rise above your wounds, and your discomforts and your limitations and see them all as possibility. Are you willing? I'm your sister in the journey sent here to disrupt any form of mediocrity in you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And to call you to use your voice because see when playing small that space where people place mall in is so crowded. Would everybody playing small? But that place where change agents stand, and in the face of fear with knees knocking teeth chattering. They steal stand. That place is awful. Roomie. I want to play something else for you. Because in the spirit of using your voice, and my tribe in my crew from yesterday, you guys will see in. You're seeing today, a lot of what I taught you yesterday. Right. You're seeing it. You're going to see it here. So when you look at elevating yourself as a speaker, I say track some people who like poetry because poetry has a dance about it. You don't have to do poetry. You don't have to track it. And then listen to the message, then find your own voice in the rhythm that you want. I want to share this young man with you, very powerful. And I think it's only fitting that I share him with you, after Dr king. And there's no debate about who is the greatest, because all those other artists, you mentioned. Yeah, the greatest made him see this artists, he's a beast, a lie in the name of names. You don't even realize it. But you encounter his art every day, and he deserves all of the acclaimed designers all of the fame because all other artists pass away, but he remains. Oh, by the way, his name is God. Y'all way creator, your maker. He's infinitely creative, sir. There is no one greater in. I can tell it looks like you're starting to get mad at me, but don't be jealous because your favorite artists might've been words in my favorite artists bins galaxies, see in the palm of his hand. He holds all the sand the author of life when he whispered, let us make man see what if I told you that you are God's poetry you were created because someone else was creative. See long ago, we picked up as a terminal paintbrush dipped it in his glory, placed us in his story and said they will live for me. And I know it sounds outlandish but we're not the product of random chances and, in fact, we're not even the vine. We're actually the branches in the same way we're not the artist were actually the campus. I mean, he's the one that gave Van Gogh the imagination that changed the face of painting, tell me who else is responsible for Mozart being able to compose, at age five with that. Training. So he made the fingers of Beethoven used to make art on the keys for pizza. He made Stevie Wonder one of the best musicians of our time. And he couldn't even see. And that's why in the same way that our lives are borrowed time. That's poem is borrowed lines. Because the most ridiculous statement, we could ever say is at this poem is mind because we're not so sustaining. No, we're not self creating technically nothing. We do as a regional were just imitating and that's not a diss all. I'm trying to say is this even our own creativity is nothing more than an outflow of his, and so, I'll end with this quote, about giving credit where credit is due. Well, if that's true, it's about time, we give got his rightful credit to because he's a God in the business and making old things, new, and here's the truth. He's not through with making a masterpiece of you. So how can you use that gift that God, the universe whatever your higher powers is giving you to touch the soul? You look at that young man. And he's just as powerful as Dr king different platform, same message as one. So I challenge you and I charge you, I challenge you and I charge you to do that thing called you to the best of your. Stop by some bite you to be creative to invite you to be outrageous to invite you to be self forgiving. So vite you to celebrate all the parts of your past. You are the superhero of your own story. You are your own bionic man in by on it comment. I stopped by to remind you that your voice is so beautiful so necessary and right on time, what better time than now. Vicious Kiani, and this is the mind valley podcasts.

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Bryan Cranston - 'Your Honor'

Awards Chatter

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Bryan Cranston - 'Your Honor'

"Hi everyone and thank you for tuning into the three hundred. eighty four. th episode of awards chatter the hollywood reporter's awards podcast scott feinberg and my guest. Today is one of the most admired stage and screen actors of his generation. He won best actor in a play. Tony awards for his work. On the broadway shows all the way in two thousand fourteen and network in two thousand nine hundred and he received a best actor oscar nomination for his turn in two thousand fifteen trumbull while also stealing scenes in films like one thousand nine hundred eighty s saving private ryan two thousand six little miss sunshine. Two thousand eleven drive two thousand twelve and two thousand seventeen the upside but he is best known for his work on television. Having excelled in comedy series most famously as the hapless father hell on fox's malcolm in the middle from two thousand through two thousand six for which he received three best supporting actor in a comedy series emmy nominations in drama series giving one of the all-time great tv performances as science teacher turned drug kingpin. Walter white on. Amc's breaking bad from two thousand eight through two thousand thirteen for which he received. Six best actor in a drama series emmy nominations four of which resulted in wins and most recently in limited series winning raves for his portrayal of judge whose son is involved in a hit and run accident that results in the death of the son of a local mob boss in one of two thousand twenty s most watched and acclaimed limited series. Showtimes your honor. I'm talking of course about the great bryan cranston over the course of our conversation. The sixty five year old and i discussed his difficult childhood and how he almost became a policeman instead of an actor. His many years of commercial. Work and guest spots most famously. As dr tim wassily on seinfeld before he became famous at the age of forty three the series of happy accidents that led to vince gilligan. Casting him on breaking bad and to that shows phenomenal success. What it was like to return to tv seven years after breaking bad went off the air and to work in the limited series format with your honor plus much more and so without further ado. Let's go to that conversation. Brian thank you so much for doing the cast. I've wanted to get you out for a long time. So it's a treat to have you. And i guess first of all how are you doing. I know you've you're one of the people that's actually had co that right. Yes seems like old news now because it was march of last year. Right at the very beginning is when my wife. And i contracted it and we're very lucky at the time some aches and pains for a couple of days and just tremendous exhaustion for a week and that was about it except that i did lose my sense of taste and smell for many many months. And it's come back to about. I would say about seventy five percent. Well got your overall well anyway on this podcast we really do. Go back to the beginning of the major moments through a life and career. So i want to start at the most obvious place. Can you just share for listeners. Pretty much where were you. Where were you born and raised. And what did your parents do for a living i. I was Born in hollywood and raised in the senate san fernando valley in canoga park for the most part. My parents were actors. They met in an acting class. Probably nineteen forty eight and had the typical kind of actors life. They were all in a big apartment building and apparently when one person got a job. That person bought dinner that night for everybody and just kind of cooperative kind of experience and is very romantic when you think of that just starting out your career and they were all so young and excited and of course then that gets beaten out of you over your was a savvy. Read that basically you know you remember a time when your dad was getting a good amount of work but then that stopped right. Yeah my dad was a really pretty darn good actor and my mom was as well. We just saw betty white had a show called life with elizabeth and they played the neighbor the neighbors and they were in several episodes of her show and they were odd. Little fifteen minute episodes and little dilemma. Little problem. that that betty white overcomes by the end of it in her kind of daft way but So they had. They had a career in in the sense that they were working actors. Did radio shows and television shows and a movie here and there and and and that. What's the typical actors life in the ups and downs. And unfortunately though my father from all accounts really had his sights set on becoming a star whatever that means and when he was forty or so and he wasn't a star. He hit the kind of an obvious in cliche midlife crisis and couldn't handle it and it fractured the family. And he went off indiana fair and he married. Another woman and just disrupted everything. And i didn't see my father for about eleven years and did that a did that. I guess the the fact that you had seen how acting could impact person if it didn't if the dreams don't pan out Did that deter you in any way. I guess i'd read that deter you in the sense of pursuing it yourself. I read some fun stuff that you were you know. I think he had directed you in something at one point before he he left in a and that you were separately i think in in some school productions including one that you have a funny story that the time machine but i guess i just wonder was it. Was it something where you're saying. I want to grow up and do what my parents do. Or you're just thinking in terms of other. Though you know is too young to be able to recognize that. I wanted to be a baseball player. And there's only one thing that held me back from being coming a professional baseball player nuts talent otherwise i'd have been great but it didn't. It didn't appear to me to be a pathway for me the time and and then you know the cautionary tale of my my parents woes in show business was probably in the back of my mind. I don't think it was a conscious level. And i just you know. Well i'm gonna do something else and back when i was a kid. There were career days and everybody would come into the school gym. It would be everybody representing the military representing the fire department. The police department gas company. It was basically around to high schools where kids were probably not going to go to college. And you know it's time to think about your future and for some reason. My brother gravitated to the police department and he joined a police explorer group which was sixteen year olds. We had to go to the lapd academy every saturday for eight eight weeks and you train kind of like a junior police program. I don't know exactly why he did that but he did. He's two years older than me. The first year that he was in the group went to hawaii. And i thought oh man. I'm a poor kid from the valley. We didn't have any money. My when my parents split up there was nothing we got kicked out of our our house. For closure i mean i my brother and i had to go live with our grandparents for a year. I mean it was. In retrospect it was more dire than i realized at the time so he was involved in this group and he found a community he found a group of young guys that he related to and i think also he gravitated to it again retrospectively because of the policemen being father figures in a masculine father figure since our father was not around i think he was maybe subliminally looking for that kind of influence and the second year he was in there. Now i'm fifteen. He's seventeen. They go to japan as a group and i thought oh. This is unbelievable. So he's traveling he's going everywhere and it was very inexpensive a few hundred dollars for the whole trip three weeks in japan and i thought okay. This is it as soon as i'm sixteen. I'm joining this group. So i can travel. So that was my impetus to join. the police. explorers was so that i can get away from canoga park and travel and sure enough sick. I joined and i graduated first in my class. Out of one hundred eleven sixteen year olds all around the city of los angeles. I graduated i. And i i kind of hit me over the head with. Oh will i guess. This is what i should do. I have an aptitude in. I didn't even know it. So okay. I guess i'll do that and seemed to make sense and sure enough. That first year. I was in. The group went to europe for four weeks. Five weeks something. Some long long trip. Sixteen years old. And i'm in europe. I mean how many sixteen year olds especially poor kids. Get to be able to say that. So there were a lot of signs pointing me toward that direction. So i graduated from high school and say okay. This is my path way. I'm going to go do this. And i get into an acting class in junior college. I'm going to go to junior college. Then go to ucla under administration of justice course and then go into the lapd. When i'm twenty one perfect timing graduating you know and every step of the way if you have a bachelor of science degree your your pay levels are higher in every step of the way and you have more favorable reviews in advancement so it seemed to be the best choice second year in college. My counselor says you gotta take some creative You know elective courses. You're only taking your major. And i didn't know how to do this. And so all okay and acting was on on the board of analog in those days just you know letters that are put up on a wall and i did some acting and so i get into this acting class and this black box theater just for fun and i get to do this scene with this really beautiful girl others seventeen or eighteen year old nineteen year old and our job is to kiss each other make out and i was blown away but thinking. This is what i've been trying to do anyway. And now this is my job in his. Alas is to believably make out with his girlfriend. She was all over me. And i thought august i mean i mean all over me and we did the scene and i asked her out at the break and she said no boyfriend and i was stunned because i know she was really kissing me sheep now so my head was spinning than nineteen years old in a classroom and all age. I'm kissing this really pretty girl as my work so that was spinning my head around right. The second thing was this girl did not particularly like me. She was doing her job. She was acting and i thought. Oh my god. I would have bet any amount of money that she liked me and i so i'm dizzy. I had to sit down and try to figure things out. And and that's when i realized i don't know what i wanna do. I don't know that. I i want to become a policeman. I don't know what i wanna do. So in a way. I ran away. My brother was kind of in the same position and we had motorcycles at the time and we hopped on our motorcycles and we left the state of california for two years just to see what was what was to. The plan was sort of just on the road. Go out and see what scott. I think if by using the term. What was the plan very very loose. I think it was. It was two young boys running away from from home. I really think it was. And i didn't know it at the time. But what i realized again. In retrospect i learned a lot of things after the fact is that. I think i was truly trying to allow myself to get lost. So that's somehow. I can be found so somehow i can find what felt true an honest as far as a pathway for myself and i think it took two years on the road To be able to shake what. I knew in in my hometown and what my other friends were become on. What are you doing. we're we're about to become policeman and yeah so confusion self-doubt insecurities. I was full of all of that. And i think really just shedding that was necessary in order to figure out. What's at the core of what i'm really feeling and thinking and the really actually was sounds like sort of Where if talked about this sort of rainstorm. That not out. Then maybe you're maybe you go back to the policemen right guess. I travelling traveling on the road on a motorcycle. And at the time i left california only had one hundred seventeen dollars in my pocket. No credit cards just two hundred kid. Hundred seventeen bucks so obviously. That didn't go far. My brother and i had to stop several times to work in a restaurant or coffee shop. Or we worked in carnivals. We'd we'd see a carnival and we pull over and we you can always find a job. And this is the nineteen seventies. When there wasn't a lot of paperwork you know you didn't have to fill out papers to get a job you just said. Do you need help and you go to a drive down a city and you look for a restaurant. That's really packed and you park your motorcycle. You go in you ask for the manager you go. Hey we've worked in restaurants before you look like you're swamped you want us to bus tables. Yes put an apron on go bus tables of and they would give us twenty bucks and they'd feed us and it was enough to to sustain us for another two weeks basic almost in So but the actual thing that solidified for you. That acting was the course. She wanted to pursue what had happened. Is that that that experience in that acting class in california created a desire to do more and we ended up in daytona beach. Florida where our cousins live. A large family called the tafs and Great bunch of people love them dearly in and they let us in and and we slept on their floor for a month or two or whatever and then we got jobs and because it was cold in on a motorcycle then now it's you know late fall into winter so stay in florida work and we got jobs and i had a job at the poolside selling suntan lotions and things so i had my nights free so i went over to the daytona playhouse and i just walked in and i said i'm free at night. Do you need any help backstage or something. And this man who i later learned out was. The director of the current player was about mounting. It said have you ever acted before. And i said i got good. You're in this play. That's i said. Wait what he goes. You're the crawl home in the king. And i and i thought what is that and away goes and i'm now in this play and so i did one play and then i was asked to produce in this small town community theater. I was asked to produce the next play. And so i did. And then the director was fired during that time. So i had to finish directing it and i'm just i'm barely scratching the service of understanding dramaturgical ideas and the concepts and thing i just i was. I was so raw but i did it because we i needed to. And so once spring happened again i might brother and i took off up north and did are traveling. Meant more people and and we're on. The blue ridge parkway in virginia gorgeous drive off so long beautiful beautiful drive. Unless it's a foggy raining and on this particular day it was because deep fog. Couldn't see fifteen feet in front of you and rainy and if you're on a motorcycle before. Gps you're in trouble because you'd have to pull out your map and you don't know exactly where you are wednesday. Where's the next town. It's confusing and it's dangerous so There was a a rest stop that was marked and we saw that we went down. It was one of those that it traverses down into a low level next to a creek and there was a a cement slab and four posts and a roof and a picnic table on this slab and we put our motorcycles up onto the slab because of the rain and we thought well looks like we may have to stay here because we don't know exactly how far we are to the next town. Okay so we pitched our tents and got our little camping gear out and made our top rahman meal that night. Our post them and whatever sanca. We were drinking hot chocolate. You know that we got in the restaurants that we worked in things and how we spend the night well. It actually never stopped raining and we spent five nights there and we were the only people we saw for the five nights and we got to play gin rummy. So many games and we did our pushups and we're reading and it was one. I was able to bring a book of plays on on the motorcycle. And i was reading hedda gabler and it was late afternoon is well crack this book and so i started reading hedda gabler and then i get isis. Read it straight through and then it got to the very end. And i realized i had a crick in my neck and why is because i was leaning all the way over toward a sodium light which was the only light that was illuminating this area. This picnic area. And and i looked up and it was night and i when i started that book it was day and now it's night and blew me away that i missed the transition from data nine. I'm normally if you've been exhausted and you go. I got a. I got to sleep in the afternoon. You know you're going to miss the transition. But i'm awake and i'm reading a book and i never saw the transition from dayton and i thought what could make a person do that and i thought the transformative power of storytelling. I thought i was in awe of that in a little intimidated. But i sat there for a moment looking out at the rain and i thought okay. I'm going to do this. I'm going to attempt to be do something that i'm falling in love with and hopefully become good at as opposed to something. I was good at police work. But i was not in love with so that was my credo and i took that with me and i thought okay. It's a big roll of the dice but here it goes so you guys wind up back in la. Right and i remember from interviewing the first time years ago that you i think dabbled with a lot of different acting teachers and classes in different styles. But you know pretty quickly. It seems like you were working regularly. I think exclusively acting from usa twenty four twenty five Maybe not in stuff that was going to set the world on fire but commercials that were that which pay nicely and guest spots on chose just to mention a few for people matlock murder. She wrote baywatch. There was there. Were a all the great ones. Well you were. You were working and so i guess i just wonder you know there are so many actors who spend their lifetime hoping to just consistently land work. Why do you think you were doing what you were getting work Either in commercials or shows right off the bat and then also if things that continued at that level forever would you have been content. Or what were you now. Sort of in the vein of your father hoping for bigger things. The simple answer is that. I had a different frame of mind. The cautionary tale of my father was certainly there and You know when. I went away when we got win. Lost our home. When i was a boy i was eleven years old and we lived with our grandparents. My grandparents are both german immigrants and just hard working blue collar out. Tough as nails. And i really through my mother and through my grandparents learned a strong work ethic and part of that is the lack of entitlement that you are do anything. I'm not doing anything to this day. I'm not do anything. You still have to earn your keep an eye. Take that and i wrap my arms around that philosophy of the hard-working blue-collar immigrant ideal and so my goal in starting my acting career was not to become a star. It's never been about become a star. It was about if i can just keep improving and earn a living. That was my goal. If i can just earn a living if i can say that the only thing i do to pay for my bills is act. That's my achievement. That happened when i was twenty five years old and that is still my proudest achievement. Professionally is that at that time i crossed the threshold. I started when i was professionally. When i was twenty. Three anna took two years which is short period of time and You know and a little odd jobs to supplement before them but at twenty five. I worked enough in the industry to be able to say. Oh i'm a working actor. I this is what i do for my living and and that's i would have been completely fine because it's the the joy of acting and i try to teach this to young actors now in high school and college. Is you have to enjoy the process. There's not a destination if if you're withholding your enjoyment before you reach a certain destination you are setting yourself up to fail to be unhappy. The process is the joy and wherever that may bring you and to to detach yourself from an outcome but still works incredibly hard to get there which is a seems contradictory but the truth is is that. It's it's all process when you're in an acting class. It's the process that gets you through fast forward years and years and years later after breaking bad. I'm in boston about to amount all the way. We're playing lyndon johnson and a three hour play. I'm on for all too short scenes and massive amounts of dialogue to memorize. And i made the mistake of going to boston without memorizing any of it i was doing all this research on the character and i was in loving it and i just made the logistical mistake of not focusing on cracking. Some of that labored intense part of the job. And i panicked. I was i was i was like. Oh my god. I've made a huge mistake. I'm troubled. I'm i it was. It was a problem. And i had to work my way through it. I put that in my book at the end. Because i wanted young actors to read that. Here's a guy now in his sixties whose panicking about being able to perform so that they read it and go. Oh so. I'm not alone. So when i'm nervous an apprehensive about taking on something worried. If that character will ever come inside it happens. It happens to everybody and so two way of kind of philosophically putting my arm around them and figuratively giving them a hug. And saying it's okay. Just keep working. Which i did. Just keep working. Keep working and trust the process is which is my roundabout way to say. It's all about process. And now it's a great answer and i think we do have a lot of aspiring actors who listeners. I think they'll find that very valuable and in terms of the fact you know that your profile obviously did grow even if that wasn't the objective. Let's just maybe not a couple of steps along the way i think in the nineties. It didn't hurt the beyond the get this recurring part on the biggest show going. I believe seinfeld as as the Tim wiley Then that was i guess. Between ninety four ninety seven ninety eight seems like movies are reaching a different level where we are with spielberg hanks and saving private ryan. That's a big deal number of things like this. But i think just to put a marker in something that will. I think we'll have to come back to in a bit. Can you just share how you wound up. The the there were several things that had to happen. Just by fate for you to wind up as the guest star. A guy a basically bad guy in anti-semites But with who. People can still sympathize empathize with on a single episode of the x files. That happened to be written by vince. Gilligan the date just so people know how much ahead of breaking bad this was. This is november fifteenth ninety eight when it aired and they almost didn't happen. I mean if that this is another. I think lesson for actors probably write that one one slight little change of plans in the thing that you were in your schedule would have changed. Everything there are. There are four things that an actor needs to have a successful career. One is talent. And i say that i am talented. And if i were to ask other actors are you talented. I want them to say yes not in a boastful way. Not pounding their chest. Look at me quiet confidence. A quiet confident way of saying yes. I belong here. This is my home in the world of of acting in creativity. So that's one you need to have that talent. You also need to have patience coupled with perseverance. You need to just keep pushing forward. Keep moving the train forward. Keep moving forward but again like i said you move it forward with with alacrity and joy. And and maybe even competitiveness. Whatever motivates you but without having an attachment on. I should have got that job. I should have achieved certain things by now. I should forget the i should have. That's the patient part. Keep working forward. Be patient keep working forward. Be patient in the last component to having a successful career scott. I know you know what i'm going to say is luck. You need luck. There's no career absolutely believe this. There's no career in hollywood that is made without a healthy dose of luck. Now win is luck going to come. Well everybody wanted to be right here right now. But that's not the way luck work works i it it it has its own timing and it's unknown to everyone else so you just have to wait for. It have happened when it happens. And take advantage of the luck that you're referring to was certainly there one of the things i did. I i wrote a a movie called last chance that i wrote for my wife has a present and when she opened up the script the as a presence she said oh my god i can't and read it and she said when are we going to make it and i thought oh i thought i was just giving So that was in the back of my mind. Took me several years to wrap my head around the idea of having the the courage and the audacity to go out and make your own film. And i shot this on thirty five millimeter film. Today i young actors and writers be able to go out there and do it on your iphone or whatever. I'm just keep creating. But i made this film and i kept delaying it because i was trying to raise three hundred thousand dollars to make it. That's how much made the film for three hundred thousand dollars and it's a good film. I'm proud of it. It's a better story than it is a structurally and how it came out. Technically because we have eighteen days to shoot it we had to go just maybe two takes per and just keep pushing keep pushing to get it done for that amount of money last chance and so i kept pushing it because i kept someone's i can give you five thousand and then they drop out and i can't. I lost my job of trying. And then we had an actor to do a certain role and then he had to go away to a paying job and even though we were under a contract. So i finally said i gotta do it. I just have to do it. I could keep delaying it week after week after week after week and it may not ever happen so we're just going to do it on these dates and i stuck to that and hope that money would somehow find his way in and it did four days after i returned to los angeles. I'm i'm starting the editing process. Four days and i get a call from my agent says i know you just got back into town but i don and there's an audition if you want to go and go while you know what i if i can get a job. That would be fantastic. 'cause i am broke all i had a wife and a little baby and we're in trouble. We have a little house with very modest. Little thing. And i said okay. It's for x. files and so i. i happened to look the part. I had this nasty fu manchu moustache shops. And kind of scraggly dirty hair. I look the part of that character. I forget the characters name anyway. The it was just by luck that i went out. I auditioned i went back to editing. I got the call. I got the job. Oh i go to work. And i and i meet this guy named vince gilligan. Who wrote it. And he's producing them also and a great time and and i realized that this is really good writing. He really did a wonderful job. In a nutshell. He put his central character in an in an an emotional Dilemma by making my character the guest star anti semite in a bigot in a horrible despicable. Human being it would have it changed the dynamic in many other cases you would have written my character as a nice guy so that moulder david duchovny would want to save me. Oh and the audience will go. Oh he's such a nice guy. we should save him. Come on david to company. Say oh he did. Oh good okay. That's nice and that's the way a lot of shows would have been written but vince gilligan. Wrote my character to be awful and what by doing that. It put the emotional and ethical dilemma in the center of his main character. Do i save this man simply. Because he's a human being. I would love nothing more than a than let him die. But i can't and it. It spoke to his character and his morality. And that's it's beautiful. It's beautiful beautiful writing. I did it. It was fine goodbye. I go off and i do malcolm in the middle for seven years and i was a game changer. Amy and that was in. Its own way right. That was new height for you. Actually yeah huge. It was it. Was i and done some series before that and they never lasted. They'd get three five six airings and they get cancelled. And you know it's just so. I was banging on the door of some kind of regularity in in my work. And and and and certainly malcolm in the middle prove that in such a beautifully written show and wonderful great memories from that at the end of seven years. We were supposed to pick up an eighth year. Fox said keep the sets up. Don't take them down. Keep them up because we might pick it up. And we're all our fingers crossed. Hopefully we can do an eighth season of malcolm in the middle. We get the call at the end of april. No you know what we're gonna let the show go. We had a great pilot. Season says fox. And so thank you but you can take the sets down now and appreciate all you know all the things that oh no. Because he'd never know you'll ever even get anything like that again right. that's right. Yeah and you wanna hold onto it when you have something so good. And that was in april of two thousand six. I did play the geffen theater with jason alexander who i met and became friends with from seinfeld and he directed and then near the end of that it was beginning of fall. And i get this call from my do. Remember man named vince gilligan. And i said no. And she said he wrote and produced the episode of x. Files that you were in i went. Oh oh yeah yeah. yeah and well anyway. He wrote a pilot named breaking bad. And i go. What does that mean sales. I don't know but it's really good. You should read it and he wants to meet with you. I said okay. So i read it and it blew me away again that little sampling that i had from x. files was filtered all the way through this grip. He's just just down a damn near genius. And i thought oh my god. This is so good so good. A twenty minutes scheduled meeting turned into an hour and a half and he and i clicked again. I came in loaded for bear. I i was confident. I i told him how i thought walter white should look and how he should be overweight. And these should be pasty in. These should have a moustache that that looks like. It needs to either grow at her shave. It do one of the to come on. He's just lost. He was invisible to himself in society. And that's where he starts and then he told me as well. I wanna make this character. Go from scarface. I just see if i can do it. They're not gonna let me do it. He's he's and. I thought you're attempting to do something. That's never been done in the history of television to change a character from one to the other and hasn't been done. I was so excited. And i got it and it was all because vince gilligan was my champion to get it and again luck so i was lucky that i finish that movie. I was back in town. Four days i could have easily have pushed that movie again and not been in town and someone else would have been doing that character and someone else would have been walter white so those are the things that happened now. There's one more bit of luck that happened. So we do the pilot in february and march of two thousand seven. Well think again had malcolm in the middle picked up. Its eighth thirty eighth year eighth season which we all hoped would happen. I would have been working on malcolm in the middle until the end of march in. Oh seven and would not have been available for this pilot so once again when you think something looks bad on initially or on the surface it may turn out to be the best move in your career and as i say that because i want actors and writers and directors who are starting their careers to just keep faith know that. It's all about the love of the process. Keep moving forward. Have your patients but keep moving forward and have the faith and luck will shine. Its light on you. It's incredible sorry. I just want to in case there's anyone listening who's been living under a rock this century just so that they know the the differences between these two that you really are most associated with probably so how come in the middle this very hapless father of these boys. It's a comedy with. Yeah there's always some drama but it's a comedy now you go from that again. That's two thousand to two thousand six to breaking bad which is two thousand. Two thousand welterweight. Science teacher turned drug kingpin in a drama with plenty of comedy. But it's the emphasis has elsewhere. So i there are people out there. I'm sure you know who don't even realize to this day that it's the same actor that did these two parts right. I guess i don't that anyone really knows me. When when i introduced myself i use both my first and last name because i don't want to assume someone knows who i am. I don't feel that what i love. Is that actors have told me. They've gotten in for auditions on the opposite side of what they're known for because my name was used they said well no. He's a drama guy. We don't want to have. Well tell that to bryan cranston. you know. we'll see what happens. Okay let them come in then and it gives gives them opportunities so if if my if there is such a thing as trail-blazing in busting that open mom very happy that had happened well and the other thing that should be noted that you started to reverence at a bed outbreak bad. But i think you know it's now understood by all of us because we were lucky enough to see all the all the seasons of it that it changed television but why did it change vision. I wonder if we can just note a few things and then just get your reaction You know obviously like a lot of these shows in this new golden age of t. v. It's there's an anti hero but as you say he did not start as an anti hero and people are the whole model again as you referenced. Tv the assumption is people wanna see the same thing week after week. Not the guy changed that or woman change who they've invest themselves in so that's one thing but that's not the only thing i mean the other things here. Could this have happened at any other time in history. We've got at the time that breaking bad is blowing up. Amc well to make it to just even get on the air. Amc has to want to get into original programming then to have it catch on because it wasn't that heavily viewed right to have it catch on neff. People are catching up with. Benching it on netflix. Right the later as in the middle of the run and then beyond that just the moment that it was dealing with so many subjects that you know that seemed to echo in society. We've got the great recession. We've got bernie madoff. We've got obamacare debate over you know should be helped out with healthcare I guess i just wonder for you. Do you believe that not not to put this all on luck either because obviously there was a great amount of talent and skill and all that but i mean could this show have been what it was at any other moment in history to great questions. I think you're right. I think there's a confluence of of many things that happened. So many things first of all courage within the executive ranks Zach van amberg and jamie erlich who assani who saw this and and saw the value of it in the end the outrageousness of it of being able to do this kind of show and taking it to their boss at the time and convincing steve. Moscow is like this is the thing we should do. And and and michael lynton and this if you guys believe in it. It's your career you know. And then having people like charlie collier ed carol at amc say this is gutsy and risky. It may fail miserably but we are all in and we want this to happen and that takes a lot of courage to do that to say that the execution of it as you said When we were just a little show in the in the albuquerque desert shooting know who we were We did a seven episodes in our first season because a writer strike stopped us from completing ten and then second season where like you know the the everybody critics loved it and not too. Many people were watching yet and his language. And it's a nice and amc to their credit showed a lot of patients with us and grateful for that. Never lost any steam as far as support from sony. So we were excited about that and then it switched. Netflix's went from that little red envelope to pushing a button on your computer and everything changed so by the time our third season was starting people were wondering. What's this what everybody talking about. What does that breaking bad. What the heck is that. And and they were able to catch up quickly because of netflix. And they caught up quickly and net flicks thank god for net flicks that i think that was instrumental in keeping us on the air and and really heralding this unique show and allowing people to find it and yes i think it touched people's lives because of the debate of of universal health. Care and shoulda shoulda teach your have to have a second job to pay for his bills or her bills. Come on and all these things you you rooted for him in and then the healthcare system in the country and The recession and men and women struggling to to just keep their head above water and and so all those things came into play The the the timing was you know. All the stars were aligning in this in this story. And and we had a person at the helm vince. Gilligan who you know had the audacity to tell this kind of of risky story and you know just it it is you know i as i as i joke and i say it proudly it's it's going to be the opening headline of my eventual obituary. And i'm i'm more than five totally. I mean the amazing amazing amazing show. And i i wondered as we move towards this more recent period even just though the transition as your as this show you were. I'm sure being recognized as malcolm in the middle was a network show that was watched by a lot of people and that was one level of famine opportunity. The probably came with that but to now be winning. Emmys year after year to be on a show that's Became a cultural touchstone by certainly by the by the time it was wrapping up. It was like a everybody if there weren't water cooler shows anymore but this was one this was like the exception I just wonder jarring for you as a guy who has talked about the value of being able to just go out and observe people behaving normally and channeling that into your acting and all that when that's no longer possible in the same way just on a personal level on an acting level. How did you handle that transition. Interestingly enough i was having this conversation well shooting x. Files with david duchovny and he was a big star on that show is tremendous and and he was doing some movies and and we were talking about was not their area. This is just a working actor. And nobody knew who i was really and i was asking him about. What's it like for you now. You know coming up the ranks and now you're a you're a television star. Your and what's that like walking around town and things like that and he actually mentioned something that i intern talk about often and i give him credit. It's that he said you know as an as an actor job. It's to observe human behavior and being able to replicate it watching people studying them in various situations and filing it away for when you happen to be playing character and that moment is going to come in handy so study it no it and he said but when you if you become famous suddenly the observer becomes the observed and you lose that ability to be objective to disappear in a crowd and being able to watch and do your work and it's so true and i used to. I took that information. I used to go to the mall with my wife and she used to go shopping and i always have a newspaper with me. And i'd look around and i'd see two people. If two people were having an argument or look like there was some strain to their relationship. I would get as close as i possibly could sit on a bench and hold up the newspaper of just under my eyes and and watch and listen to their argument and i'd watch their behavior and studied and if they happen to turn over i would lift the paper up and be a guy reading a paper and i'd always have you know some some earphones or headphones in those days in and look like i was listening to some music and i bought my head and they felt comfortable that they had some level of privacy when in fact they didn't and and so that's i always tell actors. You should never be bored if you're bored. You're not doing your work. Get an and writers to get out there and observe human behavior in situations that you're not familiar with go. I would go to. I've done this several times. Not only would i go to airports. Not when i'm flying but just to observe back in the day when you could go and freely oh in here and there and you and people at airports are anxious. They're afraid of flying or they're they're anxious to meet someone coming off a plane or they're excited or they're down. They're taking a trip maybe to go to a funeral. Or something in a heightened reality and it's great to observe also. I used to go to hospital. Emergency room waiting rooms. So they're all open and uses walk into a waiting room of an emergency room and there. It is full display people with injuries. Just waiting to be seen by the doctor or people pacing wondering if their friend is going to be okay and it's like. Wow wow so emergency room. Waiting rooms people get to it. But when you now if you were to do that today now now it doesn't work for me because so that's my. That's my information before you become famous listening. Do your homework to those places. So post breaking bad. There's the the moment where as much as ever not that. It's not still the case but you could pretty much. I would think do what you wanted. In that moment. There was a lot of a lot of just awareness and respect for what you can do. And i wondered what that moment felt like. Did you feel pressure to strike now while the iron hamas as the saying goes or could you relax and enjoy it because let's just note what you did do and i was very lucky to get to see. I think it was two into broadway shows within five years with first all the way as lbj and then network is howard beale. Both of them unbelievable. You win tonys for both of them but not only notable because you were so good but because they are such physically grueling thing so there's those you had started to do bigger movies even during breaking bad with Dr and argo. But now i know there was probably more opportunity with that. But just as as the final thing before i Focused on your honor. I just wonder that moment in the aftermath when you know some people seize the moment some people. Don't how are you approaching it. Scott when i was a working actor for since i was twenty five years old when i was forty when i got malcolm in the middle fifty when i got breaking bad so i was eased into celebrity and fame and i think that helped me tremendously i. I still am very Conscious of of money. And i don't spend a lot and i because of my upbringing and but my focus is always been on the storytelling. What's the what's the storytelling. And if you get to a position where you have options you should only work in things that that motivate you that move you that with you very lucky. I knew because of that. I was telling my boys on malcolm in the middle. Remember this time. Embrace this moment because it it's fleeting it goes and we'll you'll look back and you think man. That was so fast. I i don't even remember most of it. So i'm very aware of embracing the time embracing the moment when young. Aaron paul was twenty six years old and just starting out on breaking bad. I said remember this time. Remember where we are. What we're doing that. We're so lucky to be given this opportunity to tell the story be these characters. It's so i do it all the time. I always stop ago. This great. we're doing my gosh. You mentioned the the physical demand and emotional demand on the characters that i played in those two plays. That's what i love. I believe in that philosophy of when all is said and done. I want to be exhausted by the day i die. I want to be spe- absolutely spent. And when i go and an act i want to be in something that's meaningful i wanna. I wanna do something that moves me. That challenges me that makes me feel and an and think and an emote enemy. I want it all and That's just i mean it's it's great and so when breaking bad was ending. I thought oh. This is gonna be tough to figure out what to do next thing i did do. I said i'm not going to be on tv for three years. I don't know why. I said three years but i gave myself that moratorium Because of the fact of what became of breaking bad and in the site. Geist of all that walter white heisenberg and that whole thing. The iconic nature of the character was bigger than anything. Anybody could imagine so. I needed to go hide out. I needed to do something that was different. And that's why focused on going and doing theater is a my ability to to still have that opportunity to work and to create but not in that widespread internationally focused in that face. My face is you know. I have that face so on stage though. There are no close ups network that were good television it does. I never got to see it though. You know it's funny. Is when i did the broadway play of all the way and then we did the movie for. Hbo and people would say which one did you think was most effective and i said i don't know i never saw which is true. I'd never say i never saw it. I made something i feel. Sorry for you because it was very good. Thank you for. I was such a treat to think. I saw network twice and i believe all the way twice but certainly the anyway. It's just fantastic all right so now. I don't want to take advantage of your time. I wanna make sure that we spend our last few minutes here talking about this great limited series that i don't know is it a limited series your so. Your honor is on showtime. It's saying ten episode show. Which there's i guess these days. There's no reason why if you wanted to do multiple seasons of a show that doesn't if it because it got a following and this one certainly did let's just note the largest premiere audience for showtime limited series ever and the audience was consistently huge after that. But i guess you know just to quickly up before you answer that question. Michael desi auto a judge in new orleans whose son is in a hit and run incident and now he has to decide. How does he handle this So i guess we appeal the original appeal of this of going back to tv for you but also what is it. A series is limited series. All that i don't know. I mean everything crosses over now. Look at movies on netflix. The movie is a movie. I don't think it really matters for actors and right. we're just telling stories. I i want to be able to keep mixing it up. I wanna do comedies. When i've done a lot of drama. I wanna do theater. If i've done television. I wanna do movies if i've i wanna keep moving and go into environments that. Just tell really good stories. That's it for me. This was a really good story. Your honor the concept of your honor was. How far would you go to save the life of your child. What would you do and i ask. I asked all my friends and people. I'm meeting i go. I tell him that. The gist of the story. And i say so. What would you do if your child was in a hit and run accident. Panicked left the scene of the of the accident in which therefore becomes a a crime hidden leaving the scene of an accident and the end. Someone else dies. because of your child's actions. What would you do and he said why. Would i will do the right thing and convince them. You have to turn yourself in to the police. And i said that's what my character does do so go to the police station and i'm ready to turn my son in when i see the parents of the boy who died in the accident and the man is a notorious gangster a very dangerous deadly vicious human being and i know without any question in my mind. That man will kill my son. That man is going to kill my son and at that moment i need to make an impulsive decision and i do i turn around and i take my son back home and from that point on the simply slippery slope of course of manipulating the jurors in my case. Because i'm a judge destroying evidence lying authorities creating alibis all these things. I become criminal. And i ask people. Would you become a criminal if it meant. You can save the life of your child to a person. Everyone said absolutely immediately absolutely. It's to save my child absolutely. I become a criminal. And then i say so if that meant that someone innocent dies and then it stops the train and it's like god and they feel the anguish. I go. That's what my character is dealing with in your honor and so boy talk about ethical dilemma It's a morality tale and to see someone struggling with trying to make the right decision is what audiences want to see. And i think. I think it may have been the best watched a series in showtime's history because at the time that were suffering through the pandemic and all that that brings there is some relief in seeing someone else. Go through something. That's worse shannon. Yes sean exactly. At least i'm not that guy. Well at its you know the other thing. That's come up a lot. I know you've been asked about tonight. I could see potentially being annoying. But it's also. How do you not notice that here like walter white but obviously totally different characters but a guy who is also starts out as upright guy moral guy is faced with a dilemma and make some compromises which there's no turning back from. What are what are the most the biggest similarities and the biggest differences between these two characters. That brought you so much acclaim I thought about that a lot. Scott because i don't want to tread on on territory that i've already stomped on and i realized at my age i'm going to be a father or grandfather. I'm going if there's if there's a story about ethical dilemmas. Wow that's it. it's either bad to good good bad what you're thinking at a person making a choice that turns them into something or doing something that they would not normally do. So that's unavoidable. So i wanted to make sure that there was enough distinction between michael ziada and walter white that it wouldn't like oh he's doing the same thing and for me to so and the difference is quite clear. Is that walter. White is premeditated he had time to think about this and he thought he very carefully and precisely what he was going to do and how he was going to do it with michael deshea. It's impulsive. it's you need to make this decision right now right here. And he didn't have the luxury of thinking through scenarios on. Well if i do this now what's going to happen in the ripple effect. No it's just make the move and hope for the best. And that's what that impulsivity was. What was exciting to me about it. The other thing is what makes it. The distinction between the characters is that michael deseado is constantly struggling to turn the tide and do the right thing at every given time. He wants to change and do the right thing. Now stop this madness and confess. He wants to bring people in. He wants to feel love and togetherness again and he's struggling mightily. Walter white is on a change a transition where he went from a point of powerlessness and and being intimidated by the world to being powerful and intimidating others and he was seduced into his own ego and and that sense of power and he liked it as we found out at the end of his journey. He's not apologizing. He did what he was good at it. And he felt strong and powerful and he was owning his own fr- own weaknesses and character flaws. Final final question is this. You have now start on the greatest tv series of all time in the opinion of a lot of people including myself. you have won every award except the oscar. I think so. That's still to do. But a i have no doubt that will that will happen. You've made a nice living. What would young brian. Let's say pre motorcycle trip with your brother have said if you were able to have told him that this is where things we're gonna end up when he's sixty five and what keeps sixty five year old brian working at an age literally the age when quite a lot of people just say. I'm going to retire and play golfing. Relax and stop working. Well again i would go back to the process. I fell in love with acting. I really did. It's a relationship. And i'm devoted to that relationship so every time that i had an audition it was an opportunity for me to express love really So it wasn't i if you there's there's one thing that i would say that for young actors in in brought it in my book as well but it's it's to be able to adjust the perspective of the audition. The addition seems to be a job interview but it is indeed. Not the audition is your moment to be able to present something of value and you value yourself as a creative person you've worked on the scene. You've there's no. There's no substitute for putting the time in malcolm. Glad wells right. Ten thousand hours are needed. And you keep putting in that time. Keep putting in that energy and you present it if you're in love with the process then you're presenting something that you're proud of and here it is and it's a gift you're giving them a gift and and you're walking away from that not insisting that they continue on with that gift by calling you and saying you've got the job a gift is a gift you leave it go and i wrapped my head around and completely took that in and it changed my life forever once that happened and i won't expound upon it any more than that At this point but if the sixty five year old man that i am now look back untold. The twenty five year old. Young man This is what's going to happen to you. I don't know. I i it would not have been real to me i. I don't think i would have believed it. Also wanna i don't wanna get into that head that ooh look where i've ended up. Look at what's happened to me and to have an young actor a writer director focus on some end zone kind of celebration. It's it's the running. It's the it's getting knocked down and the next play you get back up and you run again and you get knocked down again. You get back. That's the whole point. So that's the that's the joy that as far as me in my age. Now i'm just gonna go until well. I'll tell you the truth scott. My my mother died of alzheimer's and So that's a possibility who knows what physical or mental health we will have going forward I watched my mother's memory. Just start slipping away and you know a it is possible if if it i get to the point where i cannot memorize my lines and have them become a part of the being of the character that i'm playing if i'm just focused on on with my next. I gotta say this this that line. If i'm just all up in my head thinking about oh my god panicking about my next line. I will retire immediately. Hang it up and go. Okay like a proud athlete. I i don't wanna. I don't wanna hang on and have people go home only struggling. Oh my god so sad now. no. I'm i'm too prideful of of what The of my journey. So i i want to. If i'm still having fun it means up. My faculties are still working and functioning. I can play old man roles. And i look forward to that. I look at look at anthony hopkins look done. Look what he's done by the way a very big fan of your performance and breaking bad. Well yes he wrote a a lovely letter to not just me but the entire cast and he didn't need to do that and it was a lovely gesture and i've spoken with him a couple times had lunch with him and i'm sitting across matthew hopkins and You know the father was brilliantly written. Play where i saw. Franklin geologist crush it on broadway and now what he was able to do in this film Just beautiful work in what you aspired to. Well that's a that is what you do all the time and it's such a treat to get to watch it to get to speak with you. Thank you for taking the time of being so generous with your memories. I really appreciate it. Thank you scott appreciate it. Thanks very much for tuning into awards. Chatter we really appreciate taking the time to do that and would really appreciate you taking a minute. More to subscribe to our podcast on itunes or your podcasts out and to leave us a rating as well if you have any questions comments or concerns you can reach me via twitter at twitter dot com slash fiber and you can follow all of my coverage between episodes at t. Hr dot com slash the race until next time. Thanks for joining us.

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ACS (Part 1): Tony Gonzalez and Jon Macks

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ACS (Part 1): Tony Gonzalez and Jon Macks

"Thanks for listening to the Adam Corolla show on podcast one. Well I've invented a new game that I'm in love with and we're going to play it. It's guests that twitter bio willie reed the bio of the celebrity. And and. Then we'll have to match the celebrity to the bio sort of Blah Blah blog. Now almost the same as Blah Blah Blah efforts everyone's twitter bio which I find find fascinating. So we'll do that. You can play along with us. Plus lots more Tony Gonzalez coming up. I I'll tell you about Tommy. John Tommy John. They don't given half they give three FS fabric fat function proprietary fabrics that perform like. Nothing you've ever worn before they have a no wedgie guarantee comfortable. I'll stay put waistbands luxurious soft feather light moisture Wyking breathable fabrics designed to move with. You know bunching or writing up. If you don't love love your first pair you'll get a refund but you will. You'll absolutely will. 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Well Adam Corolla yet get it on got to get it on no choice but to get their mandates you get it on thank you who listen. Thank you share with a friend. The Heroes Day Gina Grad Handball Brian. We need to feel a certain amount racist Hey tonight night. So John Mack wrote on the Golden Globes and what we're talking about the monologue and all parts of that so well he's GonNa call and he's written on every show in every Oscar and every I mean in every everything so we're going to talk to him about that process which is interesting one has been around interesting interesting interesting tidbit. The bottom of his bio has been part of the. AH The debate. PREP team for the Democrats since Nineteen Ninety six every debates ninety six. Isn't the Zingers in between David. Wild and you Corolla we enough backstage. Did you know stories about writing for award shows. I WANNA hear about debate. Prep I do too. That's fascinating. I completely agree and we all know that. If you you get a funny Zinger in it would you could talk. You could get twenty six minutes policy talking. The three hour debate with nine people on Stage one twenty two seconds Zinger and that'll be the lead of all the news north around now sharable on social media. That's all remember we tonight. There's still a few tickets left. I think we're going to beat the shelby American the documentary mentoring. We're going to be screening that tonight. That Sabban theater and saw multiple MONTALBAN. Yeah to keep people out of the way. Hey Mike Carinthian leather when I need Tae who doesn't have Carinthian leather. I WANNA thank Ford performance for helping us with this Screening Carroll Shelby's legacy gacy lives on through the Ford Mustang. Gt and the GT. Five hundred has still still going strong and you can visit Performance dot four DOT com. It's nice what a legacy for. You're going to see the family but in a lot of the drivers and team guys and stuff but imagine just having your name go on on a car for the terminology. People have no the car. Don't even know who the Shapiro show is a person yeah to be on the road. Yeah it's cool car. I am interested because because I have a so many. I realized this many years ago when my sister worked as a hairdresser on hype period Boulevard Bard in silver very gay part of town and now I said or what percentage of the population is gay ninety percent. She meant it just deducting eight percent. There was the Guy Sparkletts guy. He wasn't gay but everyone else was so she did a math. Now in my world world everyone knows carroll shelby in my world everyone knows. Show me shelby. Shelby's there really. I talked to Mike August. Nobody knows that and go down. We go nobody. Nobody knows what everyone knows. Probably learned that when I was eighteen or nineteen like. Oh that's a person whose name was all right but it was a style of car probably the extent of what you know in any way. So we'll be arrest for the red carpet celebrating his life. join US tonight if you will We have an interesting game a play. I just sort of stumbled across this because I was reading the Bio's on people's twitter and I noted I noted some months or years ago or though not too many years that it's a little glimpse into their psyche. Yes I was rea- Korea. I was looking at president. Obama President Obama's like father husband and forty fourth president of the United States or trump's was president. Fuck off like forty five order like that. That was his thing and I was like. Oh that's that's a little insight I into how those guys navigate the world right. He was putting the husband and the father now. I do feel that most folks are kind of pressured to do that. The way too much with the kids. Sorry now I was GonNa say you. Don't follow me on twitter so you don't know the answer to this. What are you my bio says if you had to guess creatives what's what's contained in there? I hope it's not husband and fucking father what would you what would you think what would you guess your the money on the line I would say this has been my bio since I signed up for twitter. It'd be fair to me. I don't know how to follow people I just turn Turner later and it's just what's in front of me. It's a Potpourri of crazy. Used to be like. Oh It'd be Dennis. Dennis Miller rose McGowan. which would be right thing and I do you got there? But you're there. I don't think you guys share anything in common but me. Maybe maybe but there you are. Let's see if this is from day. One I'm going to say Kay rock phone screener okay. That's good gus. I'm GONNA say something with movies food. Let's see it or sport balled. I was close. I said there's smart since day one. I was sorry I started looking at him and I was like. I've come up with this new. I've said dead everyone that I believe all roads lead to narcissism and. I don't believe that Eliza Milano is a savior. I believe she's a narcissist who wants people to think she's Utah. Nurses is your billboard right. Rose McGowan's her. WHO SAYS I'm here to help society be better? And then there's a giant brave background of course with lots of cleavage. What beating off like hell like the Senate out by calling yourself brave calling yourself modest out to call yourself the main block also? Hey I am here to make this world battery that sort of says it all and that's what's going on but again rose army so I was just kind of reading through them and like Nancy. Pelosi focused on strengthening America's middle class and creating jobs. It's all on one point. Mother Grandmother Dark Chocolate Connoisseur all good. There's always that will no tag at the end and like you know Kinda Fun on the fun guy. I'm assuming EXA for digging black cock. What did you think I meant? Oh something fun. Joe Biden is proud. Father and grandfather loves ice cream city. There is this was the tag. It's always the twin Robert. Downey junior says good. You know who I am. He's he's not wrong wrong. Susan Serandon is mother activists. Actress Katy Perry is Love Life. Love Light love sorry a period last night light. Sorry didn't delivered right all right so we we got it. And now unbranded I said to Max a pattern is I wonder if we could guess who was okay in much like Not Blah Blah blog. It were doing it like Blah Blah Blah log. But what A. What a twitter? Yeah what I'm saying is is much like TIVO TRIVIA GONNA have to leave out Dr Array where you played eleven years in the NFL. Or whatever because it'll be identifying thing true although you could include three football players if it's a bunch of actresses and it says Emmy nominated or New York Times bestselling author and all three of them have written a book. Then it'll stay. That's that's great right now. I guess so. It's time for Blah Blah blog. The game where we matched the celebrity with their retarded online bio. Let's play thank you activist actor Fight Fan. Animal Lover Love laughing hoping for world peace. Visit Rosario Dawson Rosie Perez or Lupita Nanga interesting fight fan to me fight fan feels. That's the one that sticks out it may would that possibly Rosie. There's no she opened. Do the right thing boxing Rosie Perez. Oh I heard Rosie O'Donnell in my mouth. Oh that makes more sense. Donald Only Rosie Perez Fight Fan. I right right. That's what it feels like to write down the names at least on the screen or something. It's already forgotten the three and then the PD neon go Rosie Perez and Rosberg. The you're right I don't either Rosario Dawson she scrappy great last name. Yeah I'm with Cory Booker Orgasm. Yeah Yeah I'm going to go go Rosie Perez. She's an activist though. But I still go fight. Fan is on brand for it to be Rosie Perez but just to be a little contrary. I'm sorry Dawson. Others are both good choices. Rosario Dawson blog belongs to and she's an activist I Rosie Perez Talk Obviously Rosie Perez Yeah activists and if you dr not actress actor actor started fighting an animal lover loves laughing we we get. Everyone says because everyone does all right here. We go question with boldness to find the truth not to prove your point. Reconciliation humility curiosity curiosity courage. wjr Integrity forgiveness before. Agi eats us all is it. Joaquin Phoenix Jeremy. Renner or Glenn Beck. I don't even know what just happened. What age adjusted gross income? I thought they don't. They own the staple center. There's something I nation that damn who what's Agi doing everything points adjusted gross income. Good good yeah. They'll meant though. I thought this is something. We all have taxes okay. Well if if it's if it's something that an insane person would say I have a gas. Joaquin is is nutty but not enough to give good speeches like even on on twitter seems like too insane to use twitter A good. It's a good point. Do we know all these people on twitter going to get confirmation that says yes we we cannot confirm or deny any of it. The question is out there for new answer pretty valid point. What's here one more time? It was weird questions. Questions were questioned with boldness to find the truth not to prove your point. Reconciliation humility curiosity courage integrity forgiveness before four a G. I eat us all. Okay I gotta I gotTa Guess Okay. This is bizarre. I say Glenn Beck. Yeah that kind. I never had that kind of way of talking like blackboard. Shit I also say Glennbeck. Their religious overtones here. And that means Glenn Beck to me. There's a there's a sober kind of a this is how people who were in twelve step programs sober or recovered people kind of talk the reflection and then there's the adjusted income thing. which is another Glenn Beck famously? Missile Sober I think he is. I think he is a sober. I'm going back as well. Joaquin Phoenix on twitter. Uh I'm just GONNA first choice stopped digging around with you people in a row. Did he really mean adjusted gross income. Come what a weird thing to say. I Dunno let's say Ron Perlman and anytime after you deduct like you're withholding probably status assistant right but Do Your own thing. I get those names up as we as fast as we read this. Because it's somehow after study thank you stand and and be counted or sit in be nothing. Don't litter Chew Gum walked past homeless. People without a smile doesn't matter in five years it doesn't matter there's only love and fear one this is share right. We gotta give it two points for that. The blog belongs to Russian. Memorize a few seconds. Only seven hundred million people on twitter. Don't know half of them. Wow wait a second grand slam in the bottom of the ninth. You need to recuse yourself. Good Sir Probably Right I. I skimmed a few of them before. I told Max a padded do this and the part about not not don't litter and then Chew Gum felt weird to me because I hate the worst. I the thing I hate worse than litter is when people throw their come on the ground so I was. I remember getting stuck on. Don't don't later at Dash do chew. Gum flew in the face of what we're like jog smoke. So it's doc pull this one word. He'll pull this down a little bit of research. I think googling googling Glenn Beck I think some sort of artificial intelligence Think about right. We're digging all right impeach impeach the president and all his men is that Rosie O'Donnell not the bio elissa Milano or Bette midler. ooh All right great on twitter. Yes she is she has lots to say all right Elissa is got a little more. I gotTA save humanity little more about her more of a whimper than scream Yeah a little more. I'm here to save everybody so that with her. Now it's kind of between bet and Rosie. I'd like to think more clever than it would be nice right but you'd like to think Rosie was more clever because Rosie's a really talented wanted actress. Stand up. You know like it's it's it's a sad it's a little sad testimonial worthy angry trump's the funny me which is kind of going on right now. A lot of people semi sort of funny I and then we'll get a similar thing with Mike more like he's become a he and Rosie comparative themselves themselves. They must they must keep up this persona right. You can be funny or make a movie about other things. You might actually listen to you more. If there's a little it'll humor in that right there. Is this thing where not only well. Michael Moore said dresses like an out of work lesbian trucker which is like he he literally if he's leaving the house in his sweat. Jacket is in front up enough. He'll wet park. SUV on it for ten minutes. Pull it off and then put it on in in case someone has a camera. Yeah it's it's an insane. It's like it's so counterintuitive but it's like if you go to like an old school kind of diner minor and you look up at all the black and white pictures of all the stars of your everyone will be smoking child star so be. Smoking have have the proper Shirley Temple. Jackie coogan solely a cigarette at nine. They're like hey you're gonNA take a picture. Well here's a cigarette. I don't smoke I know but cahiers now. We're doing this thing where it used to be like people may be taking pictures get dressed up. You're leaving the house now. It's like hey rich guy from put down you got to. You have to sure message right. I guess all right what do you think. I think it's Bette Midler. Oh I'M GONNA Rosie. I my perfect streaks on the line in here I'm going Rosie. The Bio belongs to Rosie. O'Donnell really stinking up this game. I am either three for three or five for three counting this actor Mushroom forger scuba certified diver scientific American Subscriber Dog. Mom generally stoked Zoe Saldana Zoe. Saldana fell all down in stone. Or Brie Larson Wow could scuba certified scuba and all around the time. This does now this chick I could hang with fun like I feel like I just said. Or Hey Babe I'M GONNA move you've for some lobster tonight and I just hand her spear yeah out there yeah. I'll be. Yeah I'm going to the store to get the steak if you go out to the surf get the Sir Right now. I think Brie Larson is to woke to not mention Anywho Anywho Kness and all about fun in the Sun. Yeah I was enjoying life right. Yeah she just doesn't seem like she gets a gets gets her hair hair wet but so we re has bree has I think she has some strong political opinions about women and women in place. I'll bet you you. I know be interesting sort of compare and contrast if in fact. It's not Brie Larson. I'd like to hear what Brie Larson's is because my thing would be a little more feminists feminists something real more activists in their. Zoe may have a dusting of that. Although I really know nothing of her Emma Stone Sounds Fun. Seems Fun and I'm going Emma. Stone so whistle donnas Puerto Rican Dominican. No person of color has ever said stoked Ever but access to some good good but she was. She's James Cameron's girls from Avatar. He loves the underwater. Oh wow still the stoke thing. I'm going along with Emma. Stone part of me wants to say Brie Larson for the Shiites like. She would tell us that she's not a scientific American a subscriber but not yeah. That's true is blonde. Why why ruin a perfectly good losing streak? I'll stick with Brie Brie Larson Emma Stone. It is not on twitter again. It is bree Larson show still no personal. Keller Sever said Stout okay. Wow I've never been more wrong. Her she scuba certified scientific American. Wow seems cool dog mom she does now now sir all right. Let's do one. More Mayor of Zero Fox Ville time in Grammy Award winner. Two Time New York Times bestselling author is it Lily Tomlin Adam Corolla Kathy Griffin or Lewis Black. Oh interesting mix genders sorry. I was too tired of Ram and Kathy Griffin already. Know this for an auto audiobook audiobook. We'll do another one. Yeah I read Catholic. I remember everyone on cloud Lewis Black. Let this let this Circle this date on your calendar next time someone goes. Oh Adam you know you maybe bub-bubba I will always point out if I know something and advanced technical in point out shared advanced but it was fun pointed share out. We study ahead of time. Just keep your salads for me. Well I don't know part of the the game if you want to go and rotten tomatoes. Memorize every score. Where every movie I joke? I've never done that. Although China Ristori other which one of US invented invented the version of this game true. I told you before we we did Tehran. Yeah I I'm calling myself out on Catholic. I saw her says well. Sorry every mom of three Amateur Chef Jeff. Terrible Speller loyal friend hilarious. At times I play make believe for living. God Is it Jessica. Asoka Alba Kate. Hudson or Carrie Washington hilarious. Let's be honest. You shouldn't didn't making out your own twitter bio you should have somebody close to your do that fucking late all the time guys smelly snatch yet. Let's read each other's turnover aisles. Well source your mom dog lover. Great neighbour I once. You're fucking neighbor to write your shit not uterit- all right you're ready. Everybody should be forced to have somebody else. Some third party observed them. I'm an right there fucking thing and they should be a little buzzed. Alex Truth Cook for Shit. Either fucking screaming. The Sky's falling ignores her second part. Come on let you know what who should right. You know. She writes your twitter. Your you're at your access. Your ex your ax. Find out exactly who you are. Not a bad idea is a good bit. Yeah Yeah Chris. Skin does all the REX's all right cries while beating off all right just Kawabata. She's the perfect Bersin. She's like into she. She's worth a billion dollars because she selling all this like organic food online and in love and loves like architecture and design. And it's hot. It's getting the most diverse could be anyone. Abilities Kerry Washington. I had this funny moment with Carrie Washington week or so ago or whenever the Jeffersons persons everything that they did the live the life thing I was like walk to the back of the party and someone was standing with Kerry wash and I was like Oh Hey Kerry Washington Ashington and she's like Oh Hey Adam and has like oh yeah I knew she knew me because she came up to me after. I watched her and her play race and told me she was a big fan of mine when she was in the play but not recognizable that time is Carrie. Washington just pre scandal actress us. Yeah and was twenty so I was like Hey Kerry Washington and God. There's a couple other brothers brothers and sisters in this one little huddle and she's like. Hey I don't know I was like. Oh Hey man I haven't seen you since Let's see I saw you in race. I can't came there with David Alan Grier we just came back stage and whenever and I was like Oh David Alan grier thinks racist Wisconsin. Yeah so let's hear it again. Let's hear it again. You're right forgotten all right. You're right mom of three amateur chef. Terrible Speller loyal friend hilarious. At times I play. Make believe. Believe for a living PLO hardy enough to be kate. Hudson kitschy us. I guess she s an alibi no has two or three kids. But I don't know if it's three I I wanted to say Alba Initially but I'M GONNA go with Kate Hudson sting. I'm thinking about the top two so the first to mention Alba into Hudson has never defaulted number two choice. When's there's a Lotta time? They acted I was thinking the same thing they are. They take me employees. Just got a multimillionaire. But what I'm saying are they employed actress when when it said I played maple equally for a living and you. You Run Sasha. That's why I'm GONNA say Albano. AKC'S ACTRESS I. I'll say Kate Hudson. Well it's no fun if we all go kate. How Kerry Conferring Jessica Alba Aw damnit atom wins three two two two two or losing. Yeah it's my first impulse. Well and then they did of course leave out founder of the company but yet she if she says she plays by. Yeah Yeah Whoa another part of this game that makes it. Kind of layered is re- remember the front passage or couple of words may be removed. Yeah you're not like says you calls yourself actor no. She calls herself an entrepreneur. Who Does the Acting Entrepreneur moscow-dominated for almost famous right? All right. Do we have a altro until next time. Keep your fingers. Here's on your keyboards and your heads up your asses. So we can play another round owned Blah Blah. Do you have uh. Did you find a clip of Dawson's creek with Michelle Williams and she'd go on to be celebrated Dr Cast. I gotta believe that when I pulled her side on the set of Dawson's Creek and gave her a little bit of coaching up Delicately Taste late battle coaching up. I feel like that's pell from Dawson's Creek. Here's one scene. This is me and drew and Michelle Williams in Dawson's since Craig at drew's not in this particularly but yeah. Oh Jen sweet. Sweet Jan such an amusing suicide. But it's of no use. You can't keep us apart. It's destiny I tell you destiny. John was on my plane lady but the claws back no need to fight money room on Corolla coast there for everyone. It's my friend. I won't meet the minimum height requirements. Nice to meet you gotta go. I thinks she's in love with Dr Drew. I'm guessing or Ricky Rachman. I can't remember lots of cuddles too busy at the For the gold. I'm almost positive that was busy. Phillips now that was busy Phillips on the scene and then cut away busy. She was crying she was. Yeah and the golden gloves crimes. There's some powerful so it might have been Michelle Williams speech. It was all right now. We'll we'll share Michelle Williams. I don't know why when I saw missy Williams I was like I remember her from John. I it was on Dawson's creek whether it's careers ever since right. Sorry thank you so much. First of all my my Fossey Verdon family and the Hollywood Foreign Press Association. When you put this in someone's hands your knowledge in the choices that they make as an actor moment by moment seen by staying day by day pitcher also acknowledging the choices they make as a person the education they pursued the training? They thought the hours they put in. I'm grateful for the the acknowledgement of the choices. I've made and I'm also grateful to have lived at a moment in our society where choice exists because as women and end as girls things can happen to our bodies that are not our choice. I've tried my very best to live life of my own. Making not just a series of events since that happened to me in the audience awaiting all over sometimes messy inscription taking play the LASAGNA and pushing it out in front of my own hand and I wouldn't have been able to do this without employing a woman's right to choose. You can hold it. I think we have an early ride in for women least likely to have sex actor. Dawson's Creek was not not a fan of you even like she's carried that into or dull life so taxes af twenty twenty has already started. Yeah got on the knees. Well I hadn't pick a few of those twitter by indeed and by the way the one remissed of never brought up by the way and really should be considered on the twentieth twenty. Let's listen up. People rose McGowan. Yeah it's so it's like. 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This is not a book for those who needed trigger warning but is the book for everyone who wants wants to hit the snooze bar on the woke culture Amir emotional support animal by Adam Corolla pre-order it now at Adam Corolla dot com. It's time to check out them's voicemail. Mike Mike Fifty three from Seattle have been watching the crown on Netflix. I noticed the Royal Family is always pouring their drinks from these fancy crystal decanters. Got Me thinking a good Richmond might be your whiskey bottle. Doesn't have a label. Anyway keep up the great work. Thanks for the last take care you can leave a message at eight eight eight six three four one seven four four Mac pat and I were discussing Rose McGowan and being an activist and I said yeah all roads lead to narcissism and he coined the phrase NARCEA vest. I oh that's yeah that's kind of the new world or Lodden narcissists out there all right we have a new video at. What is the name of this guy always makes me laugh? He does for years Chadli Canoga Park ones. Then yeah because it's just never shopping. It's it's really what now it's funny because it's true and it'd be nice. If some of the city officials take notice of these things are kind of millions of years. Why are we living this way? Were mainly we understand. Here's I just told Max Patti go take a picture of a million boxes that were dumped. So she's we're looking at a huge pile of stuff now. I don't know if you got up on it. But they must be are. They like fruit vallat their dates their date all jewel dates so somebody selling food and they don't WanNa deal with disposing of the okay. So this isn't a supermarket and this isn't a restaurant. This is somebody who selling doing stuff on the street and they don't want to deal with the boxes so they dumped them now city of Los Angeles you guys understand and that or are starting to understand that if you have a populous who is addicted to heroin that you're going to give them needles so they don't get in fact we're going to facilitate this or we'll have safe injection zones or something like that you realizing there's a problem trying signed to address it. There's a problem with dumping garbage everywhere and you must now have some remedy for you must address it like like a problem just like you dress. Heroin is a promise. That's something you enjoy. It's just we've a problem. Yeah and we're going to facilitate some Serbia ought to be away safely shoot up or get your Methadone or whatever it is you can drop off your baby. Can we drop off some boxes right. If you don't why she will date dump them at dump them at a firehouse team. Can we do that with garbage. Because we're being inundated with garbage because L. A.. Especially has this. Huge underground economy are all these people vendors out on the street selling flower selling food food-selling dates wrapped in Bacon or whatever it is this huge. They're they don't have dumpsters behind their property and the don't pay cheap and it's it's not close like if you want to do the right thing you've got to drive across town and then get out ninety bucks handed to someone privilege and you're not a rich person because because you're selling food on the street or flowers produce or or cactus or whatever. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. So you're gonNA take all these boxes that all the flowers and all the produce and all everything came in and you're gonNA dump them in the street. That's what you're GONNA do now. I'm aware of this. Let's be aware this and I get it. It's like why. Why don't those people pay eighty dollars to go dump? Well they're not I don't know what about all the other things we pay for graffiti removal like. Why don't we get at the gangbangers to chip in and remove it themselves? They're not doing that. They're not gonNA. They're not going to do the right thing. So we pay taxes so we're going to allocate a little money into these dumpsters stirs or whatever it is go super simple. Go to the places where they are dumping and put some big receptacle Nicole. There happened the first time things. But let's see how the year got us. It's normally STUCCO and building material toilets but it's been gone bring been going on for decades the city. This is figure this stuff out and then you just act accordingly. Or you're not really interesting. That's that's what I figured out. All right. Right We'll play the video because John Max on line six John Are you good. How are you collect interest? Have we met before we have met a variety of of shows back gauge and whatever I look like every other Jewish writer. So there's no real you know for back stage you can just say variety writer and working with Louis on on that with Louis. Sorry who who were. Who Am I thinking of? We just base Ricky Gervais and Louis Louis Ricky Rickie How is it working with Ricky and working on all the jokes and the monologues and all that stuff tell us that process? Yeah it's it's great. Yeah you know. I've worked work with them on five Golden Globes on all five and as you know there's host writers in their show writers and you know like the Oscars when I do it and with Ricky you know done one or the other and sometimes both with Ricky. It's great it's you know you start about a month and a half out. He sends a variety of topics. He wants to address. And and you just start sending jokes Just email because he's over in England Then what happens. He came in We met on Thursday and Friday Matt Robinson is the other writer myself ricky. We just got a room. At the four seasons we spent about four hours just going over the monologue and slotting stuff from what he liked He had it in order. And then the stuff that isn't monologue worthy. You know it's it's a lot easier when you're doing a presenter Intro to take good monologue joke and do that and then say okay now please. Welcome Adam Corolla rather than try to have one of those. He's this and she's that please introduce. That's the process. Well Ricky stuff is hysterical and it's true and it's biting and those are the three things you you wine and everyone is buzzing about it more so than I've heard in a long time. Which is I've been saying for a long time? I've been sort of intimately involved with this world and people keep saying to me like when is this stuff gonNA end. And I've said the COMEDIANS will be the tip of the spear. It'll start with the Dave Chapelle saying I'm not gonNA band. It's not a popularity contest. Ricky surveys things I got. It'll start with the COMEDIANS. And it'll it'll trickle down do you brie with that John One hundred percent And again I've been lucky enough to work with you know Chris Rock. You know who's in that same genre you know. And it's it's you're right it's Chris. It's Dave it's ricky and they're the ones doing and what I found intriguing. This time is in Ricky's monologues. In the past you know he would perhaps talk more about individuals. You know the Charlie Sheen Mel Gibson. Whatever he went more for the institutions? This time we went more for you know the Hollywood you know bigger institutions and I think that that really is what made the model out so effective in so biting Stein. Aw also feel like there was so much pent up demand for. It's kind of like that movie. footloose where they told the townspeople. Couldn't I got it like everyone. Everyone just collectively went fuck. Yes I've been waiting to hear this for such a long time instead of everyone sort of pandering during to whatever big issue woke issues out there. Somebody that's go right for. I've often thought Ricky is has this English accent accent which somehow makes it look. Let's face it if you're if you're Chris Rock you're black it's easier it's easier to go Jimmy. Kimmel can't go up and do what Chris Rock does he just knocked down. Work and Ricky. Your race has a little bit of black people as a little bit of a cultural thing where you kind. Hey did you can kind of make it work and does because of the way he delivers it because he says pedophiles Foxtrot. That's right it just him. I'm saying that are using the word. Minj crabby up. Which of course I had no idea what was until a week and a half ago and what you know what he doesn't? I think you hit it on on the head out of his that he's an outsider. That you know you're Chris Black. That makes you an outside of these that ricky being being English makes you outside or to the American establishment. And he didn't you know he wasn't concerned and he wasn't focused on the people in the room. He's focused on the audience at uh-huh well I made it so effective. I think the audience now obviously Tim Allen do the same monologue would not go over very. Yeah well also I think the audience is basically like an animal and if you show fear they're going yeah but he is up there with a pistol whip in a chair. He's an verbally. Saying I don't care. Mayor of giving the flexibile right and the over over Kathy Griffin the fact that he kept saying this combat my last one. I don't care which is sort of a brilliant in a in a way it's sort of like when trump does is low energy jam or whatever corrupt whoever doesn't him resetting with I don't care made the next joke work even better. Yeah exactly and it right from the beginning you know. I don't care I never did you know is is really just setting. Exactly you know the tone for that and you're right. He brought it back a couple of times what I also loved about. His performance is such a brilliant river is when he told a joke. And whether it's about Jeffrey Epstein or about Harvey Weinstein and it didn't get you know and it got the reaction that you get when people people could use this subject with a target of the joke right. He's there he's not my friend. Is Yours Camera. Great that was an ad libbed line got lap cels. ooh So you're prepping Democratic presidential candidates since nineteen ninety six. How how does that work? And how does one even get into that business. Well I in a in a former career used to run political James Carvel's herbals. My closest friend has been for thirty years and Iran campaigns up until ninety two. I got tired of traveling. The two hundred seventy eighty nine year that you do for fun. I sent some jokes in the Leno before Jay took over the tonight show and he called me up and Harvey And I've told my partners in Washington. DC y'all be gone. You know doing this for thirteen weeks. I mean you know the GIG thirteen weeks with a they have the option for the next fifty years and I just never left and I was in jail twenty two years but starting ninety six I got called by my friends in the Clinton campaign and say can you help out with debate. PREP so every four years I will help the Democratic nominee Going into the debate. This a lot of it is the you know you know what the opponents going to say. What's it's your comeback line? What's the you know the Benson Line to Dan Quayle? What is that line coming back? And that's where I think. Comedy writing skills helped out a little bit right. You're not chaff care. You know John Kennedy Right Right. So that's a very interesting process. Says who who who. I don't know who you think is going to be the Democratic presidential candidate. But who would be the best for you who could deliver the best. Who's I think that the again and I'm friends with a number of them and I'm helping more so although again I like a number but I think the absolute best in say this that she's a friend and I help out? Is Amy Klobuchar. Great at delivering the line She's smart and she knows she has a sense of timing So I think that she would be the best candidate in terms of. I don't mean just delivering the line but in terms. I think she'd be if you want the Democrats to win. I think she's the best cat John this but they actually reference that on. SNL about her her zingers here is and how she likes to get jobs in. I think it was wait till Dra- ch- maybe who played her but they referenced. How good she is at that? Rachel did player and And and she's eight again. I told her you know I've mentioned I said until someone plays you in. SNL You're not in the running in the minute. They had Rachel player. I said now you're in the top five. This is good news. I thought President Obama was a pretty solid stand up comedian like he could deliver those jokes jokes that he probably didn't right but he certainly delivered pretty nicely. What's your assessment of him? Absolutely and I ended up I ended up working for him in his two thousand eight campaign that started from two thousand seven. I helped out and then I did some debate. Prep lines for that year. And then in two thousand twelve self also and he was great in and so for the speeches where the president needs to be funny. You know the grid iron. The ALFALFA speech the alphabet dinner eaten. It really has a really good sense of timing and and it also knows what jokes he can deliver. Though he was he was great he was really. Brian has acquired John John in all the candidates. You've prepped both presidential and otherwise maybe who was the who was was the best at the debate prep or just debating and maybe who presented us with the worst was boo- presented some significant challenges. You in terms of of and again. Sometimes you're in the room and sometimes you're not You know and sometimes I'm just sending in Ryan. And then the the the the bit gurus the ones in charge pick and choose. Whatever I mean I thought I mean to be honest? The Clinton was just fantastic. I thought bill was is great And he really he was strong. I mean Obama was really strong I mean when you look at it. John Kerry won every debate against W in two thousand four. I mean he was really good But part of that this an interesting thing. It incumbent president almost was always loses the first debate because when you look in two thousand twelve and Mitt Romney destroyed a bomb in the very first debate in two thousand twelve. It didn't matter in terms of the election. Obviously the incoming president comes in with like why and stage with this guy who is on the president and they never send to prepare for that first. Yeah well it's now strikes me that this must have been a prep thing. I guess ironically when Mitt was like Russia's though that we have to fear Russia and Obama's like hey the eighties called and the eighties call and then went their foreign policy back or something like that. Ah Well now actually ironically toll Russia Russia Russia now but that was that was a I'm guessing chambered preach reach chambered if you hear that. It's the kind of thing that if you know this guy's going to bring up Russia you're GONNA go. Hey the eighties. Call the winter foreign policy back. And it's gotTA gotTa get big laugh. It worked it was. I don't know if he was right or wrong. But somehow everyone's talking about Russia now nonstop you can find that one but is that an example example of one that may have been pre chambered correct absolutely And again I don't know specifically if that was one but I do know it's exact again. Everyone knew in Nineteen eighty-eight that Dan Quayle was going out there and saying I've just as much experienced running for vice president is JFK. Okay had running for president. So Roy Benson was prepped and ready to go so when quayle deliver that line it was boom some back and hit them physically and you can find that clip. Maybe Max Pattern but do you physically have three by five cards anywhere or is this all all committed to memory or is there sort of guys looking down. Sometimes when they're standing up there looks like Obama's sitting like more meet the press kind of thing but so probably like no cars they have their little day up there and they're like a podium like like the bar exam which I took it. Believe it or not pass you went comedy writer and lawyer you go in there and then you have to write it others you. I have it memorized. You don't you're not allowed to bring cards those for the week or two weeks or whatever before. You've got your briefing book you're reading your memorizing. Have Your selectblinds lines. You have opportunities in again. You have your major points in your message but when you go in there you know you have yellow pad so when you see somebody writing something down. They are generally at that time. They are saying. Okay little whether it's an Anagram or a little notice some sorts remind if Adam says blank I wanNA say blank back. Dan Quayle says this what Benson had that so internalized. He didn't need to write it down. But when you see them writing or if you see in writing during the debate I always like when you're watching debate. Watch the candidate WHO's off camera shot or a wide shot and you can see the one who wants to jump in scribbling on something down. Because they know that they have a line wasn't what you'd get that and just auctioned off on ebay trump boss stickers this rich doodles students washing awesome. Hey John will bring you in. Because I know you're going to be doing the Oscars this year and there is again again we're going to host lists right I I again. I have a meeting Meetings over the next few days. I'm still a little bit in the dark. I'm going to be brought up to speed. You know as far as you know. Nothing's been announced yet. It's an interesting thing because if you would've told me like in the seventies she used to watch the Oscars and watch Bob Hope Whoever's Trevor Shaun Johnny Carson say one day in the future cars will be driverless award shows that'd be kind of what's dopey opiate. future is no drivers as one are people that I love. When there's a host is can you imagine at the end of the Oscars in two thousand seventeen it? Jimmy Hatton been there at this. I mean what I mean. You need somebody at that. You know when they're when everything's think's going fine okay. Fine it's just here's presenters. Use The word. Whatever but I can't even imagine what the chaos would have been like if Jimmy had been there to say you know? I blame Steve Party. Yeah math and then something else after the show so hey john thanks. And we'll the by the way the book is monologue. What makes America laugh before bed and it's out on Amazon right now? We'll bring in studio when you're done to do a recap on the Oscars Oscar's downs great related to everybody. Thanks John John. Max have that now that I think about it. I you get a little peek behind behind the curtain this towns like Oh yeah. This should be a good thing chamber if he brings up that. Bring up This all right so I'm glad you recognize. Is that all Qaeda's a threat because a few months ago when you were asked. What's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America? You said Russia not al Qaeda you said Russia in the nineteen eighties. These are now calling. Ask for their foreign policy back because the cold. War's been over for twenty years but governor he set himself up and UNPACK cell phone. I didn't I didn't remember but he was waiting for a laugh for an applause. That was one of those things where he was like. Okay we're going to bring this up set headed up and then I'll I'll pay it off all right Russia Russia Russia. Here we go just a just an observation he was cagey about the host versus host. Let's see wouldn't commit commit most likely they're going hosts usually announce it months in advance. You obviously Kimmel and more dodgy but you Kim will work come on all of this working working on material at this point you know. Probably night would be an interesting gambit by the Oscar you know the the academy to announce at the last minute. It'll be not last minute. But like like announced in the next week or two there'd be a host because then it kind of kind of mitigates the The blowback against any potential host. As I think about it now could they pull off literally just leaving a big question. Mark there and seeing who walks out. Oh yeah that's very are you seventies game but usually part of the high but I mean again. We're in a very different world now. Yeah I'd find I'd be down with that all right we'll get back to our. La River tourism tourism. It's only forty seven seconds long but goodness in their doctor. Jed Jed Lee by the way God it ever you what dot com slash three drugs. What's title see? My head is on packages news. Go for AIDS NEEDS IN THE LA suggest flag. They will be day. Well done forced people to go the La River who visit La. Gosh Glamour Glamor Hollywood. 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Villainesses: Patricia Krenwinkel

Encyclopedia Womannica

06:10 min | 2 years ago

Villainesses: Patricia Krenwinkel

"Hello from wonder media network. This is so see vacant. I'm guest hosting today for this special episode of encyclopedia romantika doc if you're just tuning in here's the deal every weekday for a year. Jenny is telling the stories of women from around the world and throughout history who you may or may not know about but definitely should each month is deemed and this month we're talking about. Villainous women have long been categorized history as either pure and good or irredeemably evil but like all people women are complex and deserve to be remembered as search. Some of the women were profiling. The smart really did horrible things. Well others deserve a second book. Today's illness is a former marcel. Listener discretion is advised. We're talking about a woman who had trouble childhood and went on to commit some of the most infamously famously disturbing crimes in u._s. History i have a special relationship to her as i recently played her in the movie charlie says let's talk about patricia krenwinkel on winkle one of the original members of the manson family patricia dianne krenwinkel was born in nineteen forty seven in los angeles california. Her father was an insurance salesman and her mother was a homemaker patricia. Teen years weren't exactly easy. She suffered through the divorce of her parents <unk> as well as relentless bullying at school for her weight and appearance after her parents split. She stayed with her father in los angeles until she graduated from high school. She taught catechism sikhism in considered becoming a nun for a bit before deciding to go to spring hill college a jesuit school in alabama that didn't last long. She dropped out and returned to l. a. After just one semester patricia i met charlie manson in manhattan beach in one thousand nine hundred sixty seven while working as an office clerk that night <hes> mm-hmm we slept together and when we made love all our members just crying and crying to this man because he said oh you're beautiful. I couldn't believe that i i just started crying. After that patricia left her life behind she went with manson along with lynette froman mary brunner to san francisco abandoning in her apartment car and last paycheck the growing so-called families started traveling around the country in old school bus patricia now dubbed katie eighty accident as a mother figure to the rest of the group at first manson and his group's exploits seemed unusual but not necessarily dangerous they ran through the woods while manson played the flute day did a lot of partying and they briefly crashed with the drummer of the beach boys. The group eventually decided added to establish a more stable base. They moved to spahn ranch. A deteriorating former movie ranch located in los angeles county manson had long. I've been preaching the racist notion that tensions between black and white people were about to erupt some believe this was the ideology that spurred the impending murder spree in in early nineteen sixty nine the manson family moved to a yellow house in canoga park to monitor those susposed tensions in august that year patricia took part the first horrific crime the family would become known for scene described by one investigator is reminiscent of a weird religious right five per murder off the pregnant actress sharon sharon tate along with her visiting friends patricia in some of the other manson group members invaded the house cutting the phone line in climbing and embankment to sneak into the property. They killed eighteen year old stephen parent as he was leaving and then entered the house to kill sharon tate and her guests which included the cough theorist abigail folder patricia stabbed abigail to death chasing her even as she attempted to escape during patricia trial. She recalled that she felt felton nothing. During the murder saying i mean what was there to describe there and it was right. Five people were murdered that day and patricia participated in war killings the very next following night. There was another bloody stabbing and two more victims. We we know one rosemary. Labianca patricia wrote death to pigs in blood on the wall and also misspelled helter skelter on the fridge. After after a few arrests patricia was bailed out by her father moved back in with her mother in alabama manson told her to go to stay there until he sent word for her return. Instead manson was arrested a couple of days later. Patricia lived in alabama until fellow manson crew member susan atkins who was still in jail started started talking about the tate and la bianca murderers patricia was arrested in alabama on december first nineteen sixty nine the next day ashi was indicted for seven counts of first degree murder and one count of conspiracy to commit murder after a nine month trial patricia was convicted did of all counts and sentenced to death in the california institution for women prison. Patricia slowly began to lose loyalty to manson and the the rest of the family. Her death sentence was commuted to life in prison. As soon as the death penalty was outlawed in california and she went on to participate paid in many prison activities. She got a bachelor's in human services. She was active in alcoholics anonymous and narcotics anonymous and she taught reading illiterate inmates she has since been interviewed by journalists like diane sawyer and seems to show remorse patricia in the manson family have also been portrayed in movies such as this year's charlie says tune in tomorrow for the story of another historic villainous special thanks to jenny and lizzy caplan co creators of encyclopedia woman anika talk to you tomorrow.

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Frank Sinatra Jr.: Along For The Ride

Hostage

49:53 min | 2 years ago

Frank Sinatra Jr.: Along For The Ride

"This episode features discussion of Kidnapping Violence Drug Abuse and use of firearms that some may find offensive listener discretion is advised especially for children under thirteen in December eighth nineteen sixty three dressed only in his underwear nineteen year old Frank Sinatra Junior eight fried chicken laughed and joked with this trumpet player John Fos soon they would have to put on their suits and warm up before spending the evening playing to a packed house at the Harrah's Club Lodge. They weren't expecting any company in fact the men didn't want to be disturbed so close to a performance but a two delivery men knocked on the door of the dressing room anyway seeing the package frank junior directed them to just put it down over there then he turned his attention back to his dinner and two thoughts the nights set list when Frank Junior next looked up from his chicken he was staring down the barrel of a loaded gun and this is hostage apar- cast original every week we tell the stories behind the most captivating hostage situations and the people inside them. We'll also cover these psychological Michael Tactics used in kidnapping situations and what the human brain does when held captive. I'm Irma Blanco Corduroy. You can listen to all of podcasts shows on spotify or anywhere you listen to podcasts new episodes of hostage. Come out every Thursday podcast. We are grateful for you aren't listeners you allow us to do what we love so let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network at work and if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review wherever you are listening it really does help we also now have merchandise head to podcast dot com slash merch for more information <music> today. We're talking about Frank Sinatra junior a nineteen year old singer who became the target of two first time criminals hoping to score a huge ransom from Sinatra's famous father in today's special one part episode will look at every aspect of this truly bizarre an unusual kidnapping from the two days Frank Sinatra junior spent as a hostage in nineteen sixty three to the disturbing public reaction afterward born on June sixteenth nineteen forty in Los Angeles California Young Berry Keenan seemed destined for a successful career in business. His natural talents were developed during his time at the prestigious university high school which counted Marilyn Monroe Judy garland among its alumni growing up in Hollywood berry rubbed elbows as with some of the biggest names in popular music among Berries Childhood Best Friends was Dean Torrance who later became one half of the Surf Music Duo Jannine Dean their songs Surf City was the first surf track to to rise to number one on the billboard hot one hundred chart. Perhaps even more impressive was berries connection to the Sinatra Family Nancy Sinatra. The eldest daughter of Frank Sinatra was a high school classmate of Berries Aries on several occasions. She invited Berry over to her luxurious home. Berry was fond of the Sinatra family. It bothered him to know that Franks only son frank junior had been packed off to boarding school and was hardly in touch with his parents junior took after his father in many ways he too was aloun singer who performed in clubs and on television the world over while balancing his schoolwork junior clearly looked up to his father other. Although the two of them shared an icy distance neither seem to know how to communicate their affection so the two drifted apart and barely spoke Sinatra senior wasn't the easiest to get close to after for all his best friends were mobsters from Chicago in Detroit and Sinatra was a known philanderer junior took after his dad in that respect to although he seemingly hid that side of himself from his family berry saw himself in frank junior and imagine how badly he would feel in the younger man shoes they were only a few years apart in age so it was easy to picture frank junior spending his evenings lonely and miserable at Boarding School while Berry had dinner at his family's table of course never having met Frank Junior Berry had no idea how the other boy really felt about his living situation in addition to easily making friends with peers and adults alike berry was quite academically gifted before even leaving high school he already shown a strong aptitude for investing with a particular interest in real estate however he also struggled with addiction from an early age by fourteen berry was an alcoholic contrary to popular belief the adolescence most likely to struggle with addiction aren't necessarily those with poor impulse control or deficient judgment in other areas of life in fact some studies suggest that unusually gifted children may be at Greater Risk for Addiction Maya Salads author of unbroken brain a revolutionary new way of understanding addiction wrote for Scientific American that quote it is extremes of personality and temperament some of which are associated with talents not deficits that elevates risk giftedness and high Q. For instance are linked with higher rates of illegal drug use than having average intelligence and Berry was certainly gifted after high school he began to study at U._C._L._A. But soon found himself to voting more of his time to real estate investing than coursework and his dealmaking started to pay off in one thousand nine hundred sixty one at age twenty. One Berry dropped out of U._C._L._A.. In modern currency that amount would be worth around eighty four thousand dollars or over a million dollars annually not bad for college dropout. Young Berry was just as lucky in love. Does he was in business. He met the woman he wanted to spend the rest of his life with and she had accepted his marriage proposal. He was young brilliant and rich with famous friends and a beautiful fiance. Everything was coming up berry out of concern for her privacy. Berry hasn't named his fiancee in interviews but we do know they spent a lot of time together and we're very much in love. They looked forward to their wedding and to a long life together but in one terrible moment their dreams of marital bliss vanished on a rainy night in nineteen sixty one berry drove his nineteen sixty Ford ranchero through the Westwood neighborhood of Los Angeles on his way to his mother's house in the passenger seat was his wife to be too late to slam on the brakes berry saw a dog in the middle of the road dude he reacted out of instinct without thinking very swerve sharply and according to The Washington Post it several parked cars before retaining wall finally stopped his out of control vehicle. He was lucky to be alive but nothing that came after the accident felt very much like good luck berry developed chronic back pain and was prescribed Pirka Dan Pirka. Dan is the brand named for drug that combines aspirin with oxycodone own according to the F._D._a.. Perkin exposes patients to the risks of opioid addiction and abuse which can include overdose and death combining Perga- Dan with alcohol can can result in profound sedation coma respiratory arrest and sudden death in the early nineteen sixties opioid addiction wasn't yet the crisis it is today Berry didn't know about all of these risks and even even if he had known his severe alcoholism wouldn't have allowed him to just stop drinking so berry kept drinking and kept taking the Pirka Dan for months after the accident when the mixture of Perkins Sand and Alcohol Hall Rendered Berry unable to keep up with his business or personal affairs his fiancee left him Berry Keenan saw himself as a gifted brilliant investor not as a physically and mentally ill young man and in need of psychiatric medical help and fortunately for him he was both one by one berries real estate deals fell through investors stopped returning this calls he went from buying and selling selling expensive properties to selling discount window coverings and he wasn't even succeeding at that Berry knew he desperately needed money but what could he do. He'd burned all his bridges not to mention destroyed his mental health by mid nineteen sixty three twenty-three-year-old berry was broke sick and desperate he'd been living for two years with a constant mix of perkin and alcohol system his thinking was distorted and unrealistic thoughts totally out of character for the young investor floated in the berries mind out of nowhere then became obsessions that he couldn't get rid of until he acted on them from his perspective. Barry wasn't fighting his way through this low point alone he had begun hearing the Voice of God raised deeply religious berry often spent time in Catholic churches by himself outside of regular service times when he lived candle insincerely prayed God began talking back but God didn't give Berry very good advice in fact God apparently told Barry it would be okay to kidnap someone and hold them for ransom as a way to get his business back off the ground just as long as he eventually paid the ransom back and nobody got hurt. God emphasized is that point nobody could get hurt since kidnapping went against his Catholic beliefs. We can be pretty sure this was a hallucination. Not An actual conversation with God opioid induced use Tallusa nation although uncommon and under reported is unknown adverse effect of treating patients with opioids according to a literature review published in the Medical Journal Anaesthesia an analgesic according to the report patients experiencing hallucinations while taking opioids may be reluctant to report the side effect due to fear of the stigma associated with mental illness. According to the same study to definitively diagnose opioid induced hallucinations a doctor should rule out other known causes of hallucinations because buried didn't seek treatment at the time will probably never know how much has use of Pirka Dan with alcohol contributed to. His hallucinations if at all but what we do know is the devout young Berry believed he had received God's blessing to hold someone for ransom berry. I considered kidnapping. Tony hope the adopted son of Bob Hope but he ruled that out because Bob hope was very active and entertaining U._S.. Troops deployed overseas. It seemed unpatriotic to distract Bob from that duty eighty by holding his son hostage men he remembered Frank Sinatra junior and it came to him. God wanted him to kidnap the younger frank so as to bring him back together with his father disol- saw made sense now berry could solve is cash flow problem and help a family. What's the next thing you do when you're flat broke and if decided to kidnap your high school friends brother well make a business plan of course Berry Keenan road out a plan and a budget for the kidnapping as if it was just another real estate venture he planned to seek five thousand dollars in investment which he would pay back with interest after receiving a two hundred forty thousand dollar ransom he arrived at the two hundred forty thousand dollar figure after determining what he would need to get himself back on track in the real estate world then once he was back up to his usual one hundred twenty thousand dollar annual salary he'd have enough to begin paying back the ransom in installments it tickled Berry to picture Frank Sinatra's face when he discovered his ransom money coming back to him in the mail bit by bit in late October of nineteen sixty three twenty three year old Berry finished his business plan folded it neatly and went over to the home of the one man with money who he could still still count on to listen his childhood friend Dean Torrance Berry presented the elaborate plan in a red three ring binder it accounted for every eventuality? Even the possibility that Sinatra might refuse repayment of the ransom if that happened Berry would donate it to a charity of Sinatra's choice Dean was mystified. The contents of the binder were so ridiculous he assumed this was some kind of practical joke or perhaps just berries goofy way of asking his rich pal for alone playing along Dean wrote bury a five hundred dollar check berry pocketed the check a vote of confidence from a lifelong friend and however dean would soon realize he had unwittingly invested in a kidnapping in a moment berry puts deans check to good use. We are so appreciative. Have you spending the time to listen to our show as a thank you we wanted to do something special for you. podcast shows are teaming up to commemorate the fiftieth anniversary of a landmark season in American history. The summer of Nineteen sixty-nine for three three weeks were diving deep into the summer America hit a boiling point with twenty three special episodes across sixteen different park originals. The crimes of passion podcast covers the Manson family murders one victim Gary Henman with held hostage for two days before ultimately being killed. It's a disturbing case and you won't WanNa miss it to hear all the fascinating summer of nineteen sixty nine episodes search foreign subscribe to summer of nineteen sixty nine on spotify five or anywhere else you listen to park shows and don't forget to tune into crimes of passion to hear more about the Manson family now back to the story in October of of nineteen sixty three twenty-three-year-old Berry Keenan decided to go ahead with his kidnapping plan his friend Dean Torrance had given him a five hundred dollar investment only ten percent of what he'd asked for but it was just enough to hire a couple of accomplices John Irwin and Joe Ambler at one hundred dollars each per week Joe was a twenty-three-year-old newlywed and out of work abalone diver. John was a U._S.. US Navy veteran who had briefly dated berries mother. They were a couple of tough guys who needed cash but they weren't hardened criminals by any stretch of the imagination nevertheless they agreed to the plan partly because they didn't didn't think Berry have the guts to really do it. John and Joe figured they could take the money and humor Berry for awhile and eventually he'd get bored of his ridiculous idea. The didn't realize Berry genuinely believed his kidnapping tapping venture was blessed by God and therefore assured of Success Berry Begins Stalking Frank Sinatra junior pouring over his performance schedule casing the venues to figure out where it would be easiest easiest to nab the teenage singer to failed kidnapping attempts followed. Not much is known about either the I was at the Arizona State Fair where Berry called the plan off after quote making a couple old mistakes as he later said in a Washington Post interview next the trio plan to kidnap Frank Junior during a U._s._C. Versus U._C._l._a.. Rivalry football game in Los Angeles Keenan would go to the game and make a point of being seen by lots of friends from his old neighborhood then he'd make an early exit and joined the other two men and traveling a few blocks to Frank Juniors Westwood apartment there they would kidnap him stash him in Canoga Park Bungalow Berry had rented under a false name and contact big frank about the ransom all the while berry would have an alibi. Nobody needed to know he'd left the game early. The day of the Football Game November twenty second nineteen sixty three berry was ready to go by dawn. He pictured every possible thing that could go wrong except for one the assassination of the president of the United Guided States that morning on November twenty second nineteen sixty three John F. Kennedy was shot and killed sending the nation into morning. John and Joe were in morning to the assassination was a shock that reverberated across America. Even Kennedy's political opponents were grief-stricken. Nobody was in any mood to pull off a kidnapping that day. After President Kennedy died John and Joe kept taking berries money but any day they expected to hear from him that the plan was off with the whole country somber and sorrowful kidnapping no longer sounded like harmless boyish fun and except to bury whose plan had the blessing of God himself. Why would a divine mission be suspended just because of a little assassination berry forged ahead but he knew he had to be careful to to avoid losing the support of his own accomplices instead of telling them he wanted to go to South Lake Tahoe to kidnap Frank Sinatra Junior Berry told John and joe he wanted to go north to look for construction work John Past he had a new job already and was busy but joe was desperate for work he'd been thrown out of the house by his newlywed wife and told not to come home unless he was employed so he went along after arriving in South Lake Tahoe Berry had plenty of time to ply Joe with beer and opioids until he agreed to renew their kidnapping efforts it took several days of drinking pill popping and a title hotel before Joe warmed back up to the idea but eventually bury got his way he decided that December eighth nineteen sixty three would be the day both men would carry very guns but only berries would be loaded? This was to make sure they carried out the command from God that nobody got hurt Berry only trusted himself not to shoot it was snowing lightly on the evening of December eighth as the two men crept up aback staircase in the Harrah's Club Lodge the carried a wind box stuffed with pine cones. If caught Berry later told the Washington Post they a plan to say they were delivering pine cones to Juniors Room for holiday decorations. Joe Got cold feet halfway through the climb up to the fourth floor where Sinatra's room was but berry forged ahead Joe already carrying a gun and implicated by his role in planning the crime felt he had no choice but to follow along when they reached Juniors Room Berry took charge at least to the best of his ability berry now recalls feeling like he was flying having imbibed plenty of pills and alcohol before the kidnapping he barked over and over don't make any noise and nobody will get hurt then he made Sinatra and his trumpet a bit player John Fos lie on the floor and handover all the money they had which was only about twenty dollars berries idea was to make the kidnapping seemed like a robbery gone wrong to cover up his premeditation confused the police they wouldn't know to look for someone with a relationship to the Sinatra family if they thought the kidnappers were just a couple of garden variety muggers continuing the performance berry acted as if he was about to leave leave the dressing room then changed his mind and announced he'd be taking one of the men with him he addressed junior as you with the dark hair as if he had no idea he was looking at Frank Sinatra junior in the flesh of course this made no no sense juniors name was displayed in lights on the casinos marquee. Nobody would ever believe that a couple of muggers wandered in with no idea who is playing that night and just happened to kidnap a Sinatra <music> the two amateur kidnappers tied John Fos up with adhesive tape in ordered him not to move for ten minutes then they left with junior and without berries gun berry blushing had to go back to the dressing room to retrieve the gun his nerve said already gotten the best of him five minutes into the kidnapping. Perhaps if it hadn't been for his belief that God had blessed this mission he would have given up right then and there will somehow Berry Joe managed to spirit junior in the gun out of the dressing room and into their car they laid him down on the back seat and covered his is the snow was falling faster. Now and Berry Jerry was worried about leaving tahoe before John Fos could get the cops on his tail there one saving Grace John had no way of knowing what kind of car they were driving but a trust up Sinatra in the backseat would look look pretty suspicious. Berry made a split-second decision to do something that wasn't in the plan ask for the Victims Cooperation Berry turned around and explain the situation to his hostage if they wanted to leave Tahoe without running into a hail of police bullets they'd have to look like a trio of friends just out for pleasant drive. He'd picked the right guy. Frank Junior wasn't exactly upset. It's about the robbery as a matter of fact the nineteen year old was totally unafraid of his captors. He quickly agreed to play along believing that he was only going to be held hostage long enough for the muggers to escape with twenty dollars. There's probably the only person willing to believe that Berry had no idea who had robbed was there victim junior sat up cheerfully introduced himself and even suggested that Berry take his iconic signet Pinky ring if he kept it on somebody might recognize him it might seem odd to us peons that ring could be so recognizable as to give junior away but the ring was famous and easily recognizable at the time especially especially given the junior was slated to sing a concert. Just a few miles of the Road Berry having received unexpected cooperation so far upped the ante he suggested that junior get drunk so he could slump over in the back and look past out this would discourage cops from looking too closely at his face junior helpful as always split the rest of an open bottle of whiskey with joe down a few sleeping pills on top of that soon he was riding high like the other men as berry gun the engine and headed out of town to junior. This must've seemed like a great opportunity for adventure for all his infamous hobnobbing nodding with mafiosos big frank had never been robbed and then ridden around with the robbers to help them get out of town. Finally Junior was about to have a story dad couldn't top but bud on the road out of Tahoe not only did a worsening snowstorm blocked their path so did the police thinking fast very booted poor Joe Ambler out of the car in ordered him to get around the police roadblock block on foot. The cops were looking for two robbers in a hostage. Three men in a car would be suspicious. Joe trudged away into the blizzard while Berry and junior drove on Berry kept promising junior that as soon as he and Joe were safely out of Taco they'd let him go in return junior continued to cooperate in his own kidnapping when the cops searched the car not once but twice junior play dumb mm-hmm we could have made a scene and been rescued especially after buried tried to drive straight on through the roadblock and was stopped by a cop wielding a shotgun. The officer leveled his weapon at Berries face and threatened to shoot then if he moved a muscle the other cops search berries car once then twice there was no way for Berry to escape. All Frank Junior had to do with shout out. I'm the hostage you're looking for four and Berry would be on his face in the snow wearing a pair of handcuffs junior might have been free in time to play his show at Harris Bun being an impulsive nineteen year old junior head great sympathy for the two young men n not much older than himself who he believed to be Mir impulsive robbers. He didn't WanNa see then face kidnapping charges for stealing twenty dollars. I'm besides junior was worried about joe out alone in the blizzard. If Barry got arrested they might not find Joe before the man froze junior and joe were now drinking partners after finishing that whiskey junior figured he could ride in a car for a few more minutes to help his new drinking buddy avoid hypothermia. This newly minted hostage might well have been in denial about the nature of his adventure denial is often described as a purely negative psychological defense mechanism and even something that a person should be ashamed of but according to University of Miami Psychologist Michael McCullough speaking to The New York Times denial is actually one of the most important psychological factors allowing groups groups of human beings to live peacefully together according to McCullough denial helps humans temper their sensitivity to minor violations of trust if we could never overlook others bad behavior even a small tribal group group wouldn't last long much less a city or a country denial allows people to preserve their relationships after a violation of trust without experiencing a loss of status or damage to their self image but sometimes as with junior denial can put people at risk of serious harm if junior had been in the frame of mind to put to into together it would have been obvious to him that is new drinking buddies were kidnapping him instead instead junior drank and chatted with berry and Joe totally convinced that they'd release him as soon as they felt safe he rode with them for seven hours all the way from South Lake Tahoe to Canoga Park Acting as a Co conspirator when they arrived at the Canoga Park hideout bury a little bit embarrassed finally had to tell junior he was being kidnapped and held for ransom junior flew off the handle. He was far angrier about the two men's dishonesty than about the kidnapping itself after he'd gone right along with them even help them get by the police barricades. They lied eight to his face. That was the end for the moment of a budding friendship. Frank junior swore he wouldn't cooperate one bid in their plan now after they had lied to him when Berry asked for big francs phone number junior refused to give it to him and unforeseen wrench in the plan how was berry supposed to get his ransom if he couldn't contact the victims rich father. This wasn't one of the contingencies and the three ring binder junior even taunted him saying you'll just have to shoot me. Desperate Berry even managed to talk to John Irwin the former military man who had helped with the first two kidnapping plans into coming over and interrogating the prisoner Krizner but nothing could shake loose Frank Sinatra seniors phone number from juniors zipped lips. It was a radio news report that saved the day by now the kidnapping of Frank Sinatra's only son was national news with updates on every broadcast. One of those updates gave the name of the hotel in Reno were big frank was awaiting word from the kidnappers now the John Earn one was back on the team. The trio agreed he was the best man talk to frank senior with his navy background. He was the only one who sounded tough enough to stand up to Sinatra. John called the hotel immediately and was soon connected to old Blue Eyes Frank Sinatra himself now for once things were going according to plan the kidnappers new the hotels phone would be tapped and the hotel would be swarming with the F._B._i.. Agents so when Sinatra picked up Irwin ordered him to go to a Chevron Station and answer the phone they're big frank quickly agreed. He said he was willing to do anything. As long as the kidnappers didn't hurt his son but after what he thought was plenty of time for Sinatra ought to make the drive Irwin called the station once twice three times frank wasn't there next Frank Sinatra misses his appointment meant with the kidnappers now back to the story it was December eighth nineteen sixty three and time was running out for Frank Sinatra Juniors Kidnappers Berry Keenan twenty-three Joe Oh emsland also twenty three and John Irwin Forty two after nearly an hour of waiting for Frank Sinatra's seniors call they began to worry that big frank had lied or had somehow traced the call were F._B._I.. Agents about to burst into the hideout. John Irwin kept calling the Chevron station. The owner assumed that the repeated phone calls asking for Frank Sinatra more some teenagers idea of a prank he grew irate until frank. Sinatra himself arrived in a car driven by an F._B._i.. Agent raced inside the station and asked if he'd had any calls they could've knocked the gas station owner over with a feather. The kidnappers kidnappers had directed big frank to Chevron in Carson City not in Reno where frank senior and the F._B._i.. Were staying Sinatra had to make a forty minute drive to get to the payphone in their haste to make a deal. The kidnappers napper's failed to realize they were looking at a phone book with listings for multiple cities. They thought frank was calling their bluff. When in reality he was driving across Nevada at breakneck speeds to answer their call when Irwin finally called again it was big frank who picked up he demanded to talk to his son? They put junior on the phone but there was no emotional exchange between father and son John Frank asked if junior was okay junior replied simply yeah and gave the phone back to his captor big frank obviously adored his boy but somehow couldn't show at when speaking to him as soon as he was talking with Irwin again. Frank Sinatra offered a million dollar ransom for his son safe release following berries instructions Irwin declined remember God it told Berry he she had to pay back the money he didn't want more debt than was necessary to get back on his feet in real estate on this must have been the first time in history. A kidnapper bargained a ransom down Irwin told frank senior that they didn't need need a million dollars in ordered him to wait by the phone for instructions on the desired amount the next day berry jove back to South Lake Tahoe and went skiing in an attempt to establish an alibi he also cleaned doubt the hotel room he shared with Joe Attempting to remove their fingerprints and all other evidence of their presence finally on December tenth nineteen sixty three Irwin called Sinatra again he was ready to talk Turkey. Two hundred forty thousand dollars of Turkey to be exact Irwin related berries very specific plans regarding the ransom. It was to be carried by F._B._I.. Agents who would then follow berries directions to be given piecemeal smeal at various payphones. It was a scavenger hunt with life or death stakes. Frank Sinatra worked closely with the F._B._i.. On the drop he gathered two hundred forty thousand dollars in cash than immediately handed it over for the F._B._i.. Take pictures of every bill this way. If the kidnappers got away with the ransom it could be tracked by serial number. Meanwhile junior was back to enjoying his kidnapping. He decided he liked Joe. M.'s ler it seemed to have been berries idea to lie to. He didn't begrudge Joe his participation. After all the poor man had been forced to walk through a blizzard while Berry drove the heated car are that seemed like punishment enough Gel and junior had similar tastes in movies under different circumstances they might have wound up close friends during long hours alone in the hideout they entertain each other that it might have been why Berry took Joe with him on the morning of December eleventh leaving John Irwin to watch the hostage while the other two men collected their ransom. Perhaps Berry thought that if joe and junior were left alone again they partner up. Intern on him so it was berry and Joe who rolled up to the drop point together between two parked school buses they saw the Satchel their money must have been in it but they also saw a highly suspicious amount of seemingly innocuous activity around the drop point taxis rolled past slowly ice cream trucks circle the block. Both men surmised correctly that the F._B._i.. was watching planning to follow them back to the hideout and reclaim the money. Once junior was liberated. Berry handled the situation just like he'd handled the police blockade he put Joe in the most dangerous position slowing slowing down as he passed the school buses Berry let joe out of the car instructing him to grab Satchel Berry would make another lap around the block and return to pick him up Joe nodded understanding the plan and hopped out of the car but as soon as Berry had turned the next Corner Joe Bolted was one thing to be involved in a kidnapping. It was quite another to be literally left holding the ransom bag as the F._B._i.. Closed in and Joe ran on foot for his wife's house hoping she might take him back despite his persistent on employment at the very least maybe she'd help him hide from the law for Awhile Berry returned to see the Satchel still in place race and Joe Missing. It wasn't hard to figure out what happened. Maybe God wanted Berry to make the pickup himself so that he alone would carry the guilt for taking big francs money. Meanwhile as Barry was fetching the ransom John Irwin had a change of heart about his participation in kidnapping teenager as the oldest of the men forty two year old John looked at junior like a child not appear Irwin called big frank to tell him he decided to return his son John told Frank to collect junior on the side of the four zero five freeway near the wealthy neighborhood of Bel Air Irwin packed junior into the car and and drove him to a freeway overpass near the Sinatra home using all his navy skills to avoid being observed. John quickly pulled over till junior to get out of the car and drove away big. Frank soon arrived to pick up his son but couldn't find him. Poor junior didn't believe John Really wanted to let him go not after berries lies in south Tahoe he figured this was another trick and hid in some nearby bushes. After some time junior realized he must have missed his ride. He crawled out of the bushes and made his way towards home on his own. Eventually hitching a ride with a friendly security guard junior junior asked to ride in the trunk so he could avoid the media gathered around his family home. Meanwhile Somehow Berry managed to grab the Satchel of money without being followed he roared off in the direction of the hideout <music> out when Berry arrived in Canoga Park he was greeted by a disturbing site no hostage and no accomplice just a hideout full of his own fingerprints perfectly ripe and ready for the F._B._i.. To find but all wasn't lost berry had the money and so far he hadn't been followed. Maybe this too was part of God's plan berry busied himself cleaning evidence out of the hideout then went to find Joe. That wasn't a very difficult task since Joe was still hiding his wife's Place Berry pulled up and flashed a wad of cash joe was perfectly willing to jump back into the car now that he saw the money was real as far as the Sinatra family was concerned. It seemed for a while that God had told Barry the truth about how his actions would affect them. The kidnapping did bring Father Catherine son together at least long enough to throw a party celebrating Juniors Return Berry and Joe through a party of their own. Although there's had just two guests they spread their two hundred forty thousand dollars out onto the ground and rolled around in the bills. Their newfound fortune would be worth almost two million today but while Burien Joe were celebrating. John Irwin was having a crisis of conscience on his way out of town to lay low for a while. John confessed his role in the kidnapping to his brother. John's brother turned him in right away the F._B._I.. Soon arrived to arrest John who was perfectly happy to be caught rather than to live with a dark secret for the rest of his life. John Readily gave up his accomplices before even getting a chance to spend any of the ransom varian joe were under arrest for the most spectacular kidnapping of their generation team. Torrance was arrested two for his minor role in financing the crime lawyers were hired evidence was reviewed and by the first week of February nine thousand nine hundred sixty four the trial of Sinatra's kidnappers began the defense attorney gladys towels route presented a long shot case claiming that junior had orchestrated his own kidnapping napping in order to grab headlines or get back at his famous father while it didn't get much uptake from the jury the conspiracy theory played well with the public everywhere he went junior ran into people who genuinely believed he kidnapped himself of course that wasn't junior style. He wouldn't have staged kidnapping but he did sure enjoy the one that came to him privately. He hoped Joel Berry would get away away with it. After a four week trial on March seventh nineteen sixty four the jury returned guilty verdicts against all three Co conspirators in the kidnapping Joe Ams Ler and Berry Keenan each received received life sentences plus seventy five years. John Irwin got away with just sixteen within four years. All three men were free the psychiatric evaluation undetermined at Berry under the powerful influence of drugs and alcohol wasn't saying at the time of his crime berry sought psychiatric help and soon stopped hearing the Voice of God and his own mind but perhaps God's plan for Berry wasn't so far fetched after all as it turned out the kidnapping did get him back into the real estate game Dean Torrance feeling bad for not just helping Barry get back into the business in the first place least Sta card for him and sent him some new clients Berry hadn't lost his natural gifts over the years in prison he was soon back on top and eventually did become a real estate millionaire today age seventy nine Berry is still participating in multimillion dollar deals. He's also worked to educate the public about alcoholism and addiction funding workshops and supporting nonprofits around the country junior and big frank never really really became bosom buddies but the sun developed new respect for his father after seeing how far the elder Sinatra would go to help him sadly for junior. The kidnapping was one of the most newsworthy events of his career sure he was the first to confess his singing career always paled in comparison to that of his father by the time he began performing in earnest again his style was out of fashion junior faced criticism from his record label for refusing refusing to become a rock and roll singer or right protest songs about the Vietnam war junior shared his father's preferences. When it came to music he wanted to sing sweetly accompanied by a good band he had no interest distance smashing guitars growing his hair out long his singing career gave way to other interests including musical direction acting and conducting he never wanted for money given his father's estate and felt free to pursue? Whatever artistic endeavor grabbed him in the years following Frank Sinatra's nineteen ninety eight death junior made his final career move becoming a cover artist singing his father songs? It wasn't a big business business but it was a way to honor big frank sadly for junior he never quite got rid of the stench of claims that the kidnapping was a p._r.. Stunt for the rest of his life many thought of him as a cold hearted criminal willing willing to kidnap himself to rob his own Father Berry Keenan himself refused to let that stand he challenged these conspiracy theories saying over and over in interviews that he not Sinatra was the mastermind behind behind the kidnapping berry even spoke out on the public radio program. This American Life Berry admits that when his defense attorney came up with the publicity stunt lie Berry along with it he was a bamboozled kid who'd never been tried for a crime before he had no idea the lie would follow junior for the rest of his life on March Sixteenth Two Thousand Sixteen Frank Sinatra junior died at the age of seventy two he he leaves behind a legacy of his own musical accomplishments covers of his father's hits and perhaps most charming of all the story of a man so amiable and kind. He helped his own kidnappers evade the law. Thanks again for tuning in to hostage. 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