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AWTR Show #784:  USO Military Spouse Programs

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AWTR Show #784: USO Military Spouse Programs

"Attention know spouses families and service members. It's now time for another empowering episode of armond white. Talk radio the leading and longest running podcasts of its kind. awt are is here doing gauge. Educate and encourage you by sharing dynamic interviews social media connections news and empowering military life information here are your awt our hosts your army wife network command team who i an army wife talk radio listeners. Welcome to another empowering and exciting episode. This is episode number seven hundred eighty four and i'm your host. Amanda macneice army wife networks empowerment agent. Joining me today is our teams. Content curator assistant jennifer brown. Amanda and thank you for that warm. Welcome i'm looking forward to hosting with you today listeners. In typical fashion. We have another great show lined up for you today. Grab a beverage of your choice and settle in or lace up your shoes if you're listening while getting workout in and get ready for your weekly dose of military life empowerment on. Today's so we will listen in to an interview conducted by army wife network. Commanders read dog and she chats with guests. Elizabeth lee program manager of uso military spouse programs jennifer. I'm glad to be hosting with you today. Let's take a few minutes to catch up on mail slave. Give me a quick situational report or sip rep of your age six status. Well amanda as you can imagine. There's a lot going on in my household as the holidays are quickly approaching. I'm beginning to realize how. I really for this holiday season. On top of our woodworking. Business is booming. So we're steadily filling orders especially for that holiday rush while i continually try to squeeze my own project needs onto my husband's to deal as so we are still busy but i'm very excited for the holidays. We've got some trouble plans made and we're ready to see some family members. We haven't seen in a while. So i'll also that here at fort. Benning georgia the took Finally below eighty degrees. So we've been doing so much outside on. It's finally a good time of year. Where i can actually do hair. It's not all messed up by nine. Am and that always makes me extra happy. Would've gone on your way. Things are going pretty. Well i will say here in colorado though. Our weather is so crazy that we don't get we really can't predict how it will be one minute. It's snowing and then the next aids seventy eighty degrees so it's hard to plan but yeah things are things are going well for me. I just started working out again. So i'm hoping to get in shape as i've just moved to Remote working from home as a teacher. So that'll be a nice battle but other than that everything is going great. And i'm glad to hear about your woodworking business. That's awesome thank you. It definitely keeps says super-busy Sometimes too busy but we really enjoy. My husband. And i are great team. And it's something that really connects us. Good ambassador But it keeps us all the time. So yeah it's very enjoyable that's awesome. I have to say that. As much as i love. Living the mill spouse life. Sometimes they really do need. An extra dose of encouragement encouragement. Is one of our army wife network pillars so. Let's just take a moment and listen in so. This week's encouraging moment from veteran teacher author john wanda bryant. Then we will check in with one our one and only correspondent joe mcknight with all things meets no news welcome spouses to sixty seconds of serenity. Which ones brian. Your encouragement of today res self. Love is so important because when you're all alone in his three am and you're crying. Who's going to be there for you. You you have to pick yourself up and find the strength to carry on at the end of the day. You're all you've got listen. Spouses crying is an emotion. That is necessary. I say let it all out. Sometimes it may take a sent in action or even a remembers to exciting emotion. But that's okay you must get in the habit of care for yourself. This is not selfish by no means if you cannot function how will you be able to support the ones that depend on you self. Love may look like cna therapist or counselor to get help are taking pilates or eating right or even sleep in for just a little bit longer. You must love yourself by taking care of yourself. This has been sixty seconds of serenity. Which wanna brian military veteran and author of the mini adventures of danny ended employer mini series. No news is typically good news in this military life country. So here is our. Aws news six correspondent with this week. sob stories. hello. Amanda and jennifer. Here's this week's top stories. Veterans affairs compensation and pension exams will be completely outsourced. According to military times. The exams are a key part of the process for veterans to receive disability benefits the under secretary for benefits. Paul lawrence told military times right now. Contractors already doing the bulk of them we think the value of having contractors available to do them is flexibility and the ability to surge some lawmakers have voiced concerns over this move despite the va's belief that it will be a service improvement for veterans read more at military times dot com. The department of veterans affairs announced that military veterans and gold star families will be granted a lifetime access to national parks wildlife refuges and other federal lands managed by the department of the interior according to npr dot org an annual pass typically costs eighty dollars. And will you access to more than two thousand. Federal recreation sites. In order to qualify. You must provide documentation showing that you served in the military to include the national guard and reserves learn more by visiting the national park service online at nps dot gov the us navy announced that us navy expeditionary seabass six also referred to as esp. Six will be renamed after medal of honor recipient marine corps. Sergeant major retired john l. Canley canley served during vietnam. Where when his commanding officer was wounded. He led his company to hugh city which included multiple attacks against enemy fortified positions being wounded himself and carrying wounded marines to safety. He was awarded the medal of honor for his bravery and courage in two thousand eighteen and now the naval ship will be named in his honor. Esp vessels will deploy marines of the future carrying the name of marines of the past secretary of the navy kenneth j braithwaite. They are leaders. Who truly embody our core values of honor courage and commitment and the future crew of us. John l. canley both sailors and marines will carry on his legacy character and professionalism throughout the lifespan of this vessel. Read more about. Candy's heroic acts at navy dot mil and this week in history on the evening of december first nineteen fifty-five seamstress rosa parks was arrested for refusing to give up her seat to a white passenger a three hundred and eighty one day boycott of the montgomery bus system followed and led to a supreme court ruling banning segregation on public transportation. Rosa parks is considered the mother of the civil rights movement and following the boycott rosa and her husband. Raymond moved to retreat. Where she worked for congressman john conyers for more than twenty years. Rosa parks was awarded the us medal of freedom in one thousand nine hundred ninety six and the rosa parks peace prize in nineteen eighty-four read more about rosa parks legacy at the library of congress online at l. o. C. dot gov find the link to all of our new reports at army wife network dot com this is your army wife network new six correspondent joe lean mcnutt signing out. Thanks to joleon for making sure. We always have up to date news this military life. Now let's take a sixty second commercial break. We will be back with more in just a few moments armie talk. Radio is celebrating our fifteen year on the air. Awt are is the leading and longest running podcast and has over. seven hundred episodes in the archives. Subscribe to this podcast on our website. Www dot army wife network dot com or on the pod catcher of your choice such as i tunes ugo play spotify. Or pandora engage educate encourage. Awt are is your source for military life empowerment jennifer. What is on the docket for this week's resource recon. This week's resource recon is all about. The resources offered on our website. And this week we want to share the most popular resources we offer post with the most as mills spouses. One of our greatest challenges is preparing for an upcoming pcs. Or if you get the chance to potentially pick a new duty station. There is a lot of information out there and it can be overwhelming. We here at army waste network wants to take some of the guesswork out of the needs to knows about duty stations around the globe hence our post with the most series. That's right our post with most series is truly an on some resource. I wish i had known about eight years ago. And i'm so fortunate to know about it. Now i will definitely be using it when we come to our next. Pcs which is just shy of two years. Now and for those of you who don't know our army way network command team and band of bloggers and their most. Those tribes have helped to compile installation specific information to help you no matter what army station becomes your new home. We have the insider details regarding local realtors off post healthcare options unit information spouse testimonials social media connections hidden gems of the area restaurants. And things you have to do before you leave. You can plan how to make the most of your new location before you even arrive. And make connections with other spouses. Who are already. They're using the listed social media groups for me. I have truly learned the power of making connections and joining those groups before arriving at a new location because it really helps you to feel in the know. Right from the start amanda. I'm much like you. And that i really want to explore our next duty station before arriving from the local and surrounding areas down to the social media connections if nothing else it really makes my mental transition go much more smoothly. This really helps maintain the sanity for entire family. Really so i know. Is you happy. Wife happy life while my motto motto. When it comes to saying is well informed wife happy life. The post with the most feature is something. I wished i had seen sooner and now that i know it's there. I find myself looking through periodically. Stayed about our next duty station looking into things that i see on the list of you know shopping and restaurants and of course all the fun stuff But post with the most feature really does highlight information own one place. I'd like to think of it as like a cornucopia of information just their fingertips. Yes definitely. i couldn't agree more in total feature forty five army specific locations around the globe if you have additional tips information connections or personal testimonials about any of our military locations. Feel free to leave a comment on our website or you can email us at info at army wife network dot com to help out your fellow military spouses host with the most is empowering on its own but we couldn't have an empowering resource segment without something from you. Amanda army wise network in agents. Hello army wave talk radio listeners. I'm amanbek niece bringing you. This week's empowerment patrol report. Today we are showcasing. Two of our volunteers who are emory winners. Which by the way that stands for motivated at ready to empower first step. We have amanda krieger. A member of our band of bloggers amanda is an army wife and mom. She met her husband while he was enlisting online boot. Even though at the time they only lived five miles apart. She has a bachelor's and master's in theology masters in english and creative writing. Her hope is to publish a memoir chronicling her life as a woman with a disability. Who happens to be married to a military man a stay at home mom and still relatively new to military life. Amanda spends her days taking care of her family and learning as much as she can about military life. She's passionate about body. Positivity disability representation self care her faith and good food. She loves to see new places and try local cuisine. Amanda loves the seasons at fort drum. But it's looking forward to the change of scenery when our family heads to texas next year you can also find her on youtube under her name. Amanda j krieger next step. We want to give a huge shoutout to our army wife network command team member chrissy gifts chrissy joined the military spouse life in two thousand ten when she married her favorite tanker she knew that life would be more adventurous and sometimes more difficult but it would always be worth it. She had previously received her bachelors and masters in special education and spent a few years teaching but once she began having children. She chose to put those talents to work in her own home. Chrissy is a mother to four energetic boys. One husky pup and the whole family is currently choosing to live small or to live big rather in an rv with plenty of travelling adventures. Outside of the normal army moves chrissy and her family have visited forty one states canada and mexico during their road travels and hope to add some different countries to that list. In our free time you can find her at the beach working out at a plate with close friends on the hunt for the next gio cash or hiding away binge watching her favorite guilty pleasure. Tv shows much. Thanks goes out to amanda and chrissy for doing their part to empower military families all across the globe until next time. I'm amanda macneice reminding you that we are never completely alone on this military life journey. Another big congratulations to our m. r. e. motivated and ready to empower recipients. Amanda krieger and chrissy gibbs. Both of these empowering individuals will receive an on some prize from army wife network as well as a permanent spot on our website in our empowerment gallery. I know of someone else. That is motivated and ready to empower this week's guest elizabeth le- let's see what empowering info she's got for us hello listeners and thank you to our host this week. This army wife talkradio's interview segment. And i'm reading knob. Lock your army wife network owner in commander today. We have the privilege to chat with. Elizabeth lee the program manager for us military spouse programming. The uso known as united service organization has been supporting service members and their families for almost eighty years uso. Coffee connections are monthly gathering event allowing spouses to relax in a comfortable setting shared vice learn about local events and make new friends all over a cup of coffee and pastries. Which i don't know about you. That sounds like a perfect recipe for me. Spouses are encouraged to come as they are or bring other military spouses to join with them in the conversation in twenty. Nineteen the uso hosted. Two hundred events that connected more than seventy five hundred. That's seven thousand five hundred military spouses this year. In spite of the shift one hundred percent virtual coffee connections there still on track to host roughly five hundred events and connect more than eight thousand spouses with other others in their local military communities. The coffee connection live was created in february twenty nineteen in response to requests from military spouses. Who didn't necessarily have that ready. Access to a uso location but yet still wanted to participate in the us spouse programming. Thank you so much for everything. You're doing for the uso mill spouse programs elizabeth and welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. It's great to be here. I'm really looking forward to our conversation. And i know that the coffee connections are really great. I was able to go to one. Live gosh a couple years ago. Now i'm not sure. I love that you guys have been able to kind of pivot this year and go virtual. So let's go ahead and get started as i shared in our bio. You've we've known now that the us has been supporting servicemembers for many switches almost eighty amazing by the way so go ahead and tell us about some of the middle spouse support programming that you all offered through the uso absolutely. Well yes like you said shritah on for almost eighty years. The uso has been supporting service members and those of us who work for the organization. We always say we're supporting service members and their families but we we learned a few years ago but a lot of military spouses didn't realize that they could also use the uso So we purposely set out to create programs specifically aimed at supporting military spouses and letting them know that the uso is here for them too so you mentioned our coffee connections program which is really one of our core programs. It's one that we're so proud of. Its its sole purpose truly is to connect military spouses to one another so that they feel connected within their communities. They feel that they have personal network of support. And just you know resources that they can go to whether they are the new kid on the block at their installation or they've been there for a while they wanna support somebody who's just getting there so certainly. Coffee connections is one that we're very proud of and as you also mentioned coffee connection live which is our virtual version of that where once a month we speak with somebody who is what we like to say an influence or within the within the military spouse community We have spoken with everyone from celebrities to mill spouses to subject matter experts. And and we can go into that a little bit later but it's been such a fun endeavor for us to be able to reach those who aren't near uso. We also have a program that's called special delivery baby showers where we've partnered with target and with heidi markov. Who is the author of the what to expect when you're expecting series and we host baby showers for expecting military mama's around the world and that's been going on for actually longer than any other military spouse programs that we have we've got one that's called military spouse networking which is sort of the original mill spouse program which is where we bring military spouses together and we teach them networking skills How to create their own personal brand and network themselves whether they're looking for a career or simply to make friends in a new community and then some of our newer programs include discovering your spark which is with the two thousand seventeen military spouse to the brittany bacher which it helps military spouses to sort of dive into themselves and discover what makes them happy and talks through throughout the course of the several hour workshop how to sort of bring that to the surface and find their joy again and turn their camps into cans. It's great Our brand new one is with corey weather. who is also a military spouse. And it's called your leaving again and it is focused on opening up the communication between Spouses when they are preparing to be a part whether it's for deployment may be Tdy or even the dreaded gio bachelor time so again. It's focused on opening up those lines of communication to talk through what it's going to be like when you're apart and then actually doing it while you're apart so those are some of our military spouse programs goodness. I had no idea that it was that deep. In far reaching i guess i was familiar with the coffee connection and coffee connection live. And i've heard of discovering your spark. But i love the special delivery showers and i fan girl over quarry whether she is just powerhouse mill spouse and i love that you guys have partnered with her as well. She is so much to offer Especially when it comes to the being apart again Because it sometimes seems like groundhog day from saying those leaders to our service members. Wow so many. Good programs You guys are offering in person and online. So i'm curious. How would a new military spouse who's just moved to their first location. Utilize the uso such a good question again. We want military spouses to know that the uso is for them so the first thing i would encourage him or her to do is find out if there is a uso center on their installation Wherever they are whether they have just joined a military family or if they're just moving to a new base they can go. Uso dot org and look our location finder and find if there is a uso installation. Go to the center meet. The staff made the volunteers and meet the other people who are in there are centers are a beacon of information on on wherever they are And if they're not year near uso center Certainly look for one as you're traveling through the airports but also you can go online and find the us facebook page which is just at the uso or even search for our brand new us military spouse facebook group which is a private group. You must be a military spouse to join it. We do ask questions to make sure that the people joining our military spouses but within that group we are sharing so much information that is helpful to military spouses again. We are here to make sure that military spouses are able to connect with one another and make friends because the most important thing is feeling like you're not alone when you're on this military life journey sounds very similar to kind of what guides us. Here at army wife network is reminding folks that they're not alone because really sometimes it feels like a very lonely island kind of experience So really appreciate you. Guys are creating that innate network for people to get connected and just a slight side note. Shameless plug you mentioned the uso centers in the airports Shout out to the uso in dallas. Last year for christmas our flight with super delayed i was flying alone with both my time to humans and guess last year malik. My son was too. He was too so trying to contain a two year old and a six year old in the airport for like seven hours late at night. They saved our skin. They took such good care of us and made sure we were fed and entertained. And i've never used the uso in an airport before really had to but You guys are taking care of your spouses. And i cannot say thank you enough for that. That is awesome. It's like having your very own. Vip lounge at absolutely yes and they. Oh they were so good us. We're like here's another. Dvd has your hope. Your flights delayed another two hours. And i was like i don't know ever get out of here They stayed open late for us. 'cause we are flight didn't leave till almost midnight so they've really took care of us So anyway back to what. You're actually here for i. I'm gushing about the. us oaks. You guys do such a great job. Tell us elizabeth. How did you come up with coffee. Connections in also the coffee connection live program while the the credit for this goes completely to my partner in crime nicole vogel. She is our senior programs. Manager at the uso four military spouse programs and this was all her brain child she herself is an air force spouse and had worked overseas at the us usos in kaiserslautern germany and when her husband's job took them to the dc area. She started working at uso headquarters and she said to the programs team. Hey why don't we do something for military spouses and the response was what should we do. Come up with something. So she actually created the military spouse networking program. I which is the one that brings people together to teach them. You know how to make their own elevator. Pitch work on their networking skills And just learn how to make friends in a professional setting from that. She said to herself one day. What if people just want to come together and have coffee. What if we just got these people together in the room for spouse networking and then said. Come by the uso next wednesday and we'll just have coffee and chat so from that we literally had a few locations that decided to market coffee connections again just as an opportunity for military spouses to come together. We are not selling anything. We're not asking them to do anything. Just come in. Have a cup of coffee. there's pastries out if you're hungry and just just talk That was back in twenty sixteen. We started with just a handful of locations and a few spouses who would come in once a month or once. A quarter however often that That location wanted to host coffee connection. And if you fast forward now to twenty twenty like you mentioned at the beginning we are on track to host five hundred coffee connections this year. Globally and we're going to reach more than ten thousand spouses and it is just something. We're so proud of because it started as just this idea of bringing spouses together and the coffee connection live program was born in february of twenty nineteen again before the world really turned to virtual programs and has more our sole means of keeping one. Another connected It was after a coffee connections that nicole said to ourselves. I want to bring this to people who don't have access to a uso but still wanna connect with other military spouses and feel like they're part of this community so the very first coffee connection live was in february of twenty nineteen and it was two of our program managers sitting in the office at uso headquarters in arlington virginia. Talking about the research that we adjust done which told us that military spouses feel. The uso was for them and did not feel connected to one another. So they had a discussion about that using zoom. They had a chat box off to the side where they invited military spouses watching live to chime in and chat and ask questions and it was this amazing virtual interaction that was just born a year and a half ago A month later they spoke with brittany bacher. Who told the world about her amazing series discovering your spark and the following month the Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general dunford. His wife invited nicole to her home in arlington and they had a chat about military spouse life. So again it's just become this this thing that we do every month it's grown Every month we have more and more military spouses joining us. Live and and again. It was just born out of the idea that we wanted to connect people whether it's in person or virtually. I've got goosebumps all over myself. Just thinking how this started with you know the focus and the intention but how. It's grown because clearly that indicates there was a gap an a need that needed to be fulfilled and you guys stepped forward encourage In you know risking boldly to make that happen and now it's gosh ten thousand spouses in a year and you were ahead of the curve for you like nobody predicted the pandemic in february twenty nineteen. But you guys had the groundwork established before this was even a thing so That's so cool so good elizabeth. You mentioned some of the folks you know how you have. Subject matter experts or other bill spouses of the year or you know networking experts but who has been on your coffee connection live program and you mentioned it was monthly. How can listeners. Tune into that. Good question why i wanna i wanna do a little bit of name dropping because we have been so fortunate to have some amazing guests with us on coffee connection live. We have had celebrities. We've had everyone from a monte durham who is on say yes to the dress atlanta. He's actually joined us two different times the first time we just talked about fashion and all things beauty and then the second time he came on six months later he actually talked to us about hair and makeup. Because i'm not sure if anybody knows this monte just opened up a salon in old town alexandria in virginia. Just outside of washington. Dc and by trade. He is actually a hair stylist so he taught my colleague nicole how to cut her own hair at home because this was of quarantine and she said. I haven't had a haircut in so long. How can i have my own hair right. So on zoom in front of hundreds of military spouses on and it looked great. So we had monte jerem. We've had amy browns from the bobby bones show who actually was a military spouse before her husband left the airforce. We've had celebrity chef carla hall and we had country music singer. Craig morgan join us. We have had military spouses. Who are just sort of argo twos on everything from homeschooling to We had a military spouse who at hr recruiter for google. Talk with us about resume writing and how to get your dream job. We've had a military spouse who spoke with us about establishing your virtual brand. You know how to brand yourself like for linked in if you're trying to expand your professional networks We had leah whose husband used to be the secretary of defense again. We had general dunford's wife new just tons of military spouses who are really influencers in this space and then subject matter experts we had hiding markov. Join us back in august again. She wrote what to expect. When you're expecting there. Were so many moms out there who had questions about not only pregnancy but giving birth during a pandemic home moving with babies and they just just so many questions and again they couldn't get to those baby showers that we have right now so heidi joins us live and just answer. Everyone's questions in everyone's minds at ease and actually just last week. We had a celebrity makeup artist. Join us. She is a land. Comb a Client executive and also a celebrity makeup artists and she literally walked me through how to do my makeup. So that i look good on zoom. Because we're doing now on zoom has fresh-faced and she walked me through everything and it was amazing and we record all of these so if people want to go back and watch any of them they can simply go to. Uso dot org slash military spouse and find the link to coffee connection or they can go to youtube and search for uso. Coffee connection live and see all of those recordings That's so neat. And i i just have to laugh because like doing your makeup or like learning how to do your makeup presume and also like giving yourself a haircut in front of all the people. I was like no pressure. You guys way. More courageous that i would ever be 'cause i don't even with experts. I'm not sure. I could pull that off but love. That you guys are branching into that So if listeners. Want to listen live. How do they connect with that if they want to tune in absolutely so again we we have the military spouse facebook group. The uso meltzer's facebook group on facebook. If you join that. We are constantly posting flyers invitations to join us. Live with little registration link. It's really simple. You don't need to download anything you just register. And using zoom the military spouses. Who join us live are not on camera. It's only us in our guest who are onscreen. But you have the chance to ask questions. And then the most important thing that i think about coffee connection live is the chat box you can chat and interact with other military spouses tuning in live and share your reactions to what's being said on screen. We always invite everyone who's tuning in live to show their linked in profile because we realize not. Everyone has a facebook or instagram or twitter. But a really safe way to connect through linked and so we always invite people to connect on linked in and share their linked in profiles if they want to connect with the other military spouses who are joining. And what's been so fun about. This is that we've started to see a lot of the same spouses come month after month after month. And we love it because we've gotten to know their personalities through their questions and through their chats just as much as they've gotten to know ours so again. Look on the uso military spouse facebook group and also we have a weekly email that we send out to military spouses who have attended our events whose emails we already have an in that weekly email. We share all of these upcoming events. So if you're not on that. Try to find that facebook group. We've got a little link that you can click to sign up to be on that email list so i'm not gonna lie. I'm multitasking right now and just requested to join that group on house as you guys are doing such good stuff i'm to be. Hey who else. Are you collaborating within the space to support military spouses. Oh my goodness well. As i keep stressing connecting and networks are everything and the uso cannot do this alone so we are really really proud that we have worked with so many individuals and organizations Most importantly we worked with several military spouses of the year again. I've i've mentioned britney with her discovering your spark workshop series and corey. Weather's i am also a huge fan. Read her book when my husband floyd to be too had her on coffee connection live two different times once with her husband and once just her own. Gosh all the goosebumps in tangles when that woman is talking We have a really fun series that we do with a man named michael quinn. Who is an army veteran. he's also known as a linked in guru. If you have ever wondered how to market yourself on lincoln. Michael quinn is the expert and he has hosted Some virtual linked in series just for military spouses and also for everyone in the military community So again we've we've partnered with mill spouses of the year. We've partnered with veterans was also partnered with a lot of corporations who support what we're doing and are are very eager to let military spouses know that they are included in the support that these corporations offer to military families. I specifically want to call out. Lowe's home improvement stores they They have hosted two years in a row. Do it yourself workshops to teach military spouses skills. That can be used around the house. And i have to tell you. Cherie deville early Born out of desperation on my part when our boss came to us just before my husband was about to leave for a year to go to iraq We getting ready to pcs. We moved from alabama to florida and three weeks later. My husband left iraq for a year. And i have two little kids and i didn't know anyone in the neighborhood and i thought how am i gonna do all the things around the house. I need to learn how to hang up curtains in picture. You know all the things. But i also wanna like learn how to use power tools. So coincidentally lows had approached the uso about some partnership opportunities and. They reached out to the mall spouse team at said. Could you use anything from lowe's and we created these workshops in two thousand nineteen representatives from lowe's stores actually went to twenty apps are ten different. Uso locations and we gathered military spouses around. They taught us how to do. Things like spackle holes in walls because their kids walls in the have to fix right and this year we were supposed to do twenty four workshops but because of the pandemic we took it virtual and it was amazing pivot. Where lows had someone at their networks studio at their headquarters partnered with a maria read has another army house. Military specity are who we love and who is very well known in the diy space. Yup we got those two individuals on zoom. We did it coffee connection lifestyle. We did this. Virtual diy workshop and we did a series of three weeks hot military spouses how to make a fire pits We told them everything that they needed to get where to find it at lowe's You know they could go get the stones and the sand and everything that they needed and then for an hour we show them how to literally make a firepit in their backyard. The second one we did was painting one on one. So whether you wanted to paint like an accent wall in your house or you just wanted to refinish some furniture. We did a one hour. Diy workshops on painting and then the last one was on customizing furniture again. Whether you wanted to repaint it or refinish it or stain it or strip it. We did that so Just a shout out to the corporate partners who have an interest in supporting military spouses that we are so so happy to work with and we're really really eager to see how much more we can do for the military spouses. Thanks to everyone that we've been working with. It is so neat that these programs you're partnering with sharing with mill spouses. Not only other fun. But they are like a legitimately useful I i mean. I just partnering with lows is so great because i remember being like i don't know twenty five or thirty weeks pregnant laying under my sink undoing pipes and unclogging the sink because maintenance wasn't going to be able to come for like a week or something and drill sergeant. He just did not have time to deal with it and how much easier that have been to be like. Hey how do i fix this sink without making a disaster like exactly exactly this is not even a damsel in distress sits. You know we are not implying that Terry spouses cannot do these things. We are here to empower them to know that. Do them on their own and they will. Because it's it's not that difficult and were here to share those skills with them. It's superfund rate. It helps it you. You just hit the nail on the head. Hi putting tendon. Because we're talking. Improvement couldn't resist You hit the nail on the head there elizabeth because i feel like sometimes when as military spouses the opposite the opposite of empowerment feeling deprivation deprived in kind of at the mercy of the military or if our service members we're going to be home or when maintenance can come but instead of approaching it like that we get the opportunity to really focus on things that we can learn and maybe do ourself and so that we're not so stuck with. I have to wait for someone else. But hey i can handle this. It's really not the damsel in distress situation. I so appreciate what you guys are doing. And how intentional. You are in crafting these programs to fill those needs in that gap elizabeth. I really enjoy learning about everything you guys are doing. I thought i was relatively well-versed. But clearly i had no idea and i just love it. I've enjoyed our conversation so far. So we're gonna take a super quick commercial break and then we'll chat a little bit more about other wonderful things you all are doing with your military spouse programming experience listeners. If you'd like to connect with the uso you can go ahead and find them online on twitter at the underscore uso on instagram and facebook. Simple at the uso. So t h e u s and their website uso dot org forward slash campaign for slash. Coffee dash connection dash live. Or you can also just go on there and look up the military spouse programs stay tuned for the rest of this interview after our quick commercial break we will be right back with more. From elizabeth engage. Educate encourage empower advertise awa has many opportunities for promotion of your bryant service or including web creatives flog posts social media promotion giveaways and podcasts audio commercials. Email empower at army wife network dot com to get started. We sincerely thank you for your support to empower military spouses families and their service members around the globe listeners. We are back talking with. Elizabeth lee program manager for us military spouse programming. The first segment of our interview has already been so enlightening and empowering with all of the programs the you all share for military spouses from the coffee connection. Live to partner with lows and Experiences with careers networking discovering. Your spark how to deal with your service member leaving again so elizabeth. Let's make this a little more personal. Because i can. How did you get employed at the uso and does the uso hire. A lot of most houses This is one of my favorite stories to tell. I have actually been with the uso on and off since two thousand five. So it's been fifteen years. And i was a young not too recent college graduate living and working in the dc area. And while i loved my job. And i loved the hustle and bustle of dc. It was two thousand and five. We were in the height of the wars in iraq and afghanistan. And i just felt like there was more that i could be doing. I had always wanted to work in international business. And what i was doing was marketing and pr for a company in dc. But i saw this job opening for a uso marketing person in okinawa japan. And i don't speak japanese. I had never the japan. But i thought why not. That sounds fun. I was married. I had no kids. I had about two suitcases worth of possessions in life. And so i just on a whim decided to apply for this job and i got it so i packed everything that i had and i moved to okinawa japan in the summer of two thousand and five to start working as a marketing director for uso. Pacific it was. It was the most incredible thing i was in my mid twenties. I didn't know anything about the military. I didn't know anything about international nonprofits but it was the best time of my life So really it was just going out on a whim. Taking a chance in applying for a job that i i ended up getting and since then i've worked in marketing worked in operations I've worked in the pacific region which covers japan korea guam and hawaii and then i worked at uso headquarters and when our family pcs to germany many years later actually had the opportunity to work over there as well. So it's been an amazing journey. And i'm so so fortunate to have been with the uso throughout so many of these moves and to answer your question yes. The us does hire a lot of military spouses It hasn't always been the case. But i'm so so proud. That in the recent years as technology has picked up the uso has been so supportive of military families military spouses and we are enabled to move when our families. Our jobs can stay with us. So like i said i've worked on three different continents and i think i've lost count of how many states i've i've worked the uso while living in but they are very supportive. They know that that uso spouses are capable of military. Spouses are capable of balancing many things of tackling challenges head on in just multitasking. So yes the uso is incredibly military spouse friendly i i i guess. I'm almost speechless. Because i love your story how you almost accidentally got connected with this. But it worked out so beautifully and fifteen years later. You continue to be a mover and shaker and now military spouse and you know making such a difference on so many fronts. i. I love hearing people's stories because it just so encourages and empowers me personally and i know it does the same for our listeners Most jump back a little bit talking more about the uso and so thinking beyond the creating the connections for mill spouses tell us a little bit more about other types of programs that uso offers for military and their families absolutely well. I'm sure a lot of people know or think of the uso associated with entertainment. May who hasn't heard the stories of bob hope going overseas for christmas shows and and to entertain the troops everywhere from vietnam to korea. Everything in between We still have a very strong entertainment department and our entertainment shows a really well known even now during covid we have what we call the mvp of military virtual programming which is sort of the virtual engagement of the entertainment department. So that's definitely something we still do. But you know the uso has a care package program where you can send a care package to a loved one who's deployed. We also have something called uso to go where our programs department literally has put together a uso center in a bunch of boxes and they ship it to wherever people aren't whether they're at a tiny little fob somewhere whether they're out training in the desert or anywhere uso. To go is is a great program where we really are going out to where we are needed Of course our centers. Our uso centers are probably the biggest program that there is They always offer free food and drinks at tv lounge. Free wifi just a place to relax and again whether you're in the airport and you're feeling like you're gonna vip amount or you're at an installation somewhere. They are a place that you know you can always go to see a friendly face We have the bob. Hope legacy reading program which is a program where a service member can read a book and film it record it and send it to a loved one who might not be in the same location which is a great way to stay connected during a deployment We have the uso transitions program which used to be called. The pathfinder program. People might recognize that name. It is completely focused on not just the active duty service member but also their spouse and their family members who are getting ready to transition out of the military and so we work with them in the time leading up to their separation from the military and then for the year afterwards to make sure that they are fully prepared for life after the military whether that's a career thing or maybe a social thing or just getting ready for life when you're when you're no longer part of the military So mean i could go on and on about them but every center has information on both local programs and global programs. So you can find out more about this. At any uso center. I appreciate you mentioning the unlike taking notes over. Here pathfinder program. I i remember you know i recognize it from the pathfinder program. I so i just so cool that you guys focus on the transition also for the military spouse when it comes to making that shift from active duty into civilian world because my husband and i talk about it all the time. We still have a few more years to go but thinking about that transition and how the dynamics chefs from him possibly being the primary breadwinner to perhaps my turn to kind of shifting those roles but also having folks like the uso in our corner to empower us in help make that transition a little bit smoother. So it's not like land in seven forty seven blizzard really sounds Encouraging to me. So i'm personally going to have to look into that leading up to the time where our roles kind of shift So obviously in twenty virtual is the big new thing and not really by choice more like by necessity elizabeth. What is the. Us's military virtual programming. How did that get started. Our military virtual programming is essentially taking everything that we used to do in person for celebrity entertainment and moving it virtual nam. So if you go to uso dot org forward slash vp military virtual programming. You can see not only a list of all the people who joined us for talk but also the recordings so we again. We have had celebrities. We've had chefs. We've had a bill nye. The science guy out roker. We've had anyone that you can imagine who loves to share their support of the military. They come on again. It's on zoom. They are interviewed by a member of our team and they take live questions sometimes on camera and sometimes just through. Qa box from fans from viewers. Around the world. I was just watching all with al roker a couple of weeks ago and they had people come on from insurers turkey. They had people coming on from germany. I mean who doesn't love al roker. We've all grown up. What do the weather on the today show and again. He's just one. I think we've had over sixty four different. Mvp engagements and and this is something that was just born this year. I won't say out of desperation but certainly out of necessity. Think for a while. We've been looking at how we can reach more people and the entertainment tours are amazing but often they go to either secretive locations or very small locations just to bring that little bit of extra joy to those who are harder to reach location through the military virtual programming we took everything virtual and we took those celebrities. Who might be you know taking a helicopter. Way out into the middle of afghanistan and we. We've interviewed them in their homes and we've put it out there for everyone to see again. People can join live or they can watch the recording afterward. And it's just been a really really neat program. I went to the website that you said. Uso dot org four slash mvp. And i am so excited. Like i'm looking at all the upcoming events you guys do so much as like yes just entertainment team for our just today so you know looking at some of these things like three events today and three events tomorrow. Holy cow that is in kuala. You guys are busy. And i love it. That is so neat. And i think when i got on this website. I'm pretty sure. Clint black was the first guy to pop. Up is ma'am it's fine. I'm fan girl. And i love that guy. He's still cool all right. I'm focused. i'm focused elizabeth. Our time together is about to wrap up but again remind our listeners where they can go to find more empowering formation about all things. Uso a military spouse programming. Yes the information is at your fingertips so if you pull up. Uso dot org forward slash military spouse or go on facebook and search for the uso military spouse facebook group. You can find information on all of our programs and any events that are coming up. I would also encourage people to find their local. Uso facebook page. I am fairly certain. That every single uso around the world has its own facebook page. Just type it into the search box and you can find out what's happening locally. And if your uso center nearby is open certainly go in and find out what's happening such good information you guys have guys only have the breadth like a cross. Which have such deep intentional programming and actions. Just it's like a giant web everything's connected but there really is something for everyone when it comes to mill spouse programming and all those resources are so empowering elizabeth which we really appreciate here at army network because as you know empowerment is one of our pivotal cornerstones for all things army wife network and so one of my favorite parts of the show is when we get a chance to ask our guests. What empowerment means to them. So can you tell us how you would complete this sentence. Empowerment is love it to me. Empowerment is something that comes with. Good company will think that being empowered means you can tackle challenges on your own and maybe some people can but to me empowerment is feeling you have the resources support knowledge and confidence to achieve your goals. I've often heard many times in life. It's not what you know. it's who you know. There is power in our connections. I think establishing that tribe and which you guys are doing on so many fronts is very very empowering especially in these times as the pandemic continues and a lot of us are still dealing with that 'isolation giving opportunities to connect virtually with military spouses literally around the globe with celebrities around the world. Just creates such a mazing unique opportunity for military spouses to feel empowered. And so elizabeth. I a i i'm rambling but i am. It takes a lot to make me. But i am so overwhelmed in the most wonderful way with everything you guys are doing for military spouses. It makes us feel special and it really does make us feel empowered. So thank you so much for sharing all this information with us You've won me over even more than before. We started this commerce. We wish you all the best especially as we ramp up to this holiday season. That is gonna look like nothing we've ever experienced before and so we just thank you so much for coming on our show today. Thank you for having me. i appreciate it. We wish you all the best. And now we're gonna back into our studio with our hosts for more empowering un shen thanks to elizabeth lee for sharing power and resources about uso military spouse programs with us this week again if you would like to connect with us military spouse programs check them out online via twitter at the underscore uso instagram and facebook at the uso or on their website uso dot org forward slash programs forward slash military's dash spouse stash programs. Thanks for that reminder jennifer. I'll definitely be following on social media now. What an inspiring show that wise to hear elizabeth speak about making sure we aren't alone as mill spouses really is. What is most important for us since we really can feel pretty isolated sometimes with this lifestyle also listening to them talk about the coffee. Connections makes me really want to go to one stat. When shrida said she was multitasking and adding herself to the uso spouse facebook group. I did the same. I'm so excited. I'm feeling so empowered and really ready to make more connections. What did you think of the show. Amanda i really have to say that i did not realize how many resources the uso military's bounced program provides. I know the uso in the airports on my husband and i have utilized many of those during many of our trips. But i'm really embarrassed to say that. I didn't know that it extended past that on that note a quick. Shout out to the uso. Inside of the seattle tacoma airport. Similar to rita's experience in denver. I too had an incredible experience at the uso. At seatac. i won't go into the details for time sake but the volunteers were more than accommodating and i will forever be grateful for them a during my trip. I was traveling alone with my son and it could have gone all wrong but the volunteers that uso really made sure that wet right so with that being said i too am very excited about the coffee. Connections live being virtual. I think really enhanced is the ability for military spouses to get involved to not have to get dressed up to go somewhere to feel awkward going alone. I think being online. Although that is the new way of things. I think even as an old way it really allows military spouses to engage and feel comfortable because sometimes we are stuck alone and going places that can be very very intimidating so i am very excited to look into that and hopefully join in on the next live and really dig into their website to find out what other resources i can use to help. Improve my life as military spouse. Yes me too. And i feel like i ready for my next trip on. An airplane guys are making me feel really good about it. S we definitely have used used always been to the us. Oh and so many airports in it really. It really is like vip lounge. I think elizabeth made that comment and it definitely feels like that and it really. They really take care of their their military service members as well as houses. That's awesome to feel so appreciated. It's time to take off our full battle rattle and refit for our next show. In the meantime you can join us. Every thursday at noon eastern for our weekly facebook live mill spouse empowerment moments. You can also catch the audio version via our podcast at army wife network tune in for our next full length episode of army wave. Talk radio on monday when our command team member sharia knob lock interviews operation home fronts chief operating officer bob thomas to talk about the organization's pandemic response and holiday services. It's going to be another empowering show before we sign off. We invite you to join army wise network team. If you're interested in joining our band of bloggers or being a guest on this podcast. Email us at info at arnie wife network dot com. It doesn't matter. If you're in a season of hurry up and wait are embracing the suck or keeping calm and soldiering on. We are here for why. Oh you engage. Educate encourage army wave talk. Radio is your source for military life empowerment. This is your army wife network command team signing out. 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$8,400 Bitcoin On The Cards Soon?

The Trader Cobb Crypto Podcast

07:16 min | 2 years ago

$8,400 Bitcoin On The Cards Soon?

"The. Crypto show talking business influx. Jane? Everybody. Welcome to the crypt ipod. Kost. It's you host Craig Cobb the websites tried to call dot com. If you haven't heard about maybe four anyway, you having a crack let's get through and have a bit of a walk around the top ten currently. I just say what's going on at the bitcoin right now. The again, I come back to these fifteen minute time frontal talk through this yesterday. Bang on the Nonoc local rod ran at nine. Am sydney. Tom's. That's what forty one minutes ago is probably an hour or so from when you actually he this. If you get a straight away, we saw a big wild can volatility out of crank we sort of high of fifty three twenty one and the low of fifty one eight quota saws will move. And in fact, it was one of the biggest the biggest candle of the day then everything settled down and the problem backup hitting a high yesterday all fifty three seventy three now similar thing. Could this morning? I just happened to be sitting. At the same time as the as I am every single day five days a week talking through my scan my watchers doing my members in VIP and live trading floor. And again, the candle had opening price all fifty two hundred nine call three hundred and a low of fifty to fifty three now that Spock could very very quickly and against like it sold off shook at some some sellers and the buys of reentered now, I wouldn't be surprised at all. As a matter of fact to see is break up above the high of fifty three thirty six base on this fifteen minute trank just seems to be something that's been going on something in the water with that being said, you know, we are looking at the moment in the next twenty minutes, we go into close probably be closing somewhere around the highs of the Canley out one point five percent right now bitcoin, and what does it actually mean? For one or two things. I wanna say I wanna say bitcoin push onto these new highs and starts continue to climb towards that six thousand Mark, and I'll be looking fever Naci boost trades when that occurs if that was to occur because I've got some beautiful high lows coming in now, I'm just waiting to save. I can get some entries this. That'll be one option. The other option realistically we do need to pull back now. Is it going to happen? Now. When's it gonna happen that I don't know either? But it has had a very very strong run. And it hasn't pulled back yet. And it does need to have somewhat of a pullback for it to be healthy in this transited to continue. Now, I don't mind not having a pullback for the time being if you recall back through the November run will broke down through six thousand we went from six thousand to three thousand six hundred in a very very far sixty one hundred pretty much shot straight down sixty one hundred all the way down to thirty two hundred. So he just about hot. Halved in value. So to give you some perspective in that flip that on its head and do a handstand right flip that around doubling from where we were on this move. So forty two hundred eighty four hundred now that might seem really unlikely to you right now. But as a matter of fact, isn't that far away when you consider what this market does you see when it moves? It moves hard. And as I said throughout that titles. Are that November breakdown through that range, speak speaking for quite a long time? We did see it move extraordinarily fast. Now could we see that again? Absolutely. We could see that. Again, absolutely noted that in my mind. That's why I tried these market. It's off it's headed moves. So phenomenally fuss. I'm going to be the pave of both will all types of situations. And I'm probably going to be focusing on the lower tone timeframe, if we do push to new highs today. With that being said we'd have theorem up three percent as well. Sitting around those holidays. It's time to really established trend now though, it hasn't moved quite as far as what bitcoin houses not great deal of resistance in the white now, obviously there's around number of two hundred. Yes, that would probably be tested, but a saw from being around number on not too concerned about that. It's a NAS looking trend Knauss looking move. And there wasn't opportunity for Naci boosted their over not back into the pullback for me again, the wedding those lower timeframes to push on to new highs coming back. Nats else is up one point six four percent a little bit flack that six al-makassed resistance to get through. And then a little bit more six dollars fifty so happy to leave that one alone for the time Bank. Still Lumine is currently down one point one six percent. Not doing a great deal. Just meandering alongside ways reveal is outside of that thirty five high side of that rain. It's just hanging out there right now, not too much more to say, it's actually Dan one point six four percent. And likewise down three point one percent today that pullback. Starting to occur backing on daily. I'd love to see it. Get back come on little puppy giving them off to him a love, and I'll be all over you. That sounds horrible. But you get my point looking for tried setup. Bitcoin cash three point four percent sitting still three hundred even three hundred and eleven dollars cowardly still holding up around those Hawes bonnets and five percent. The biggest Fula in the top ten got taken out of my tried from January thirty first I very long run, of course, several months or couple of months paining that and against Tampa two hundred percent gang and against bitcoin. It was a hundred percent guy. And I forget that was will bitcoin was going up so very very happy with that position. A best trade of the no leverage. Unfortunately, but autumn on it was still good position Tron up six point four percent arenas. Push to the upside there for Toronto. Honestly that trend sowings look what gnaws we've got high allies pushing in now higher Haase is gonna white and see. If I can get a little way pullback into there because there are options to try that with margin as well. We've got finally cow. Don, I sitting three point two percent to the downside and having a little bit more pullback at the moment. So across the market is still very much up in the air. There's nothing to wall going on. We just seem to be grinding Haya just need to see something more happen if we're gonna slowly grind high probably going to slowly grind high with strong divergence on some of those midterm timeframes, which would probably be keeping me out of Loa tem timeframe trends for the time being. So I wanna see shop move up or shot move down. A the way we got options both sides of that. If he pulled back we've got options if we move high with good options. Good thing is we have options. Guys have fantastic Daschle speak to you all again, very very soon. If you haven't gone across the website and the place to go check out what we do here at try to call dot com. We very good educating people systemized trading with risen checklist than anybody. Can lynn? Day boston. The traded Cup. Crypto podcast is hosted by Craig called ultra courses products and tools can be found at Tradenkov dot com. Because experience met is.

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Episode 226: Farewell Tommy Kahnle + CC Documentary Recap

The Short Porch

39:40 min | 4 months ago

Episode 226: Farewell Tommy Kahnle + CC Documentary Recap

"Hey what's up guys. It's big cat before you start listening to this episode. I want to let you know that we're running a special sale on all barstool merch. Go to store dot barstool sports dot com and use code podcast for ten percent off goto store dot barstool sports dot com and use code. Podcast for ten percent off Sarah time and one just for the day. What's what's happening. Welcome addition of the short porch presented by bustles. Sports and miller light middleweight. Twenty twenty. Two year of cancellations of course and holidays arrive will be saying farewell to one more tradition w work holiday parties it turns out most of us never really liked those parties anyways with work parties cancelled we can get to something we actually want for the holidays more time with our friends whereas we call it miller time holiday parties just overall suck. We don't wanna part of it so obviously getting together where a real family or boys You know it's the it's the right thing to do right now. So you know we're doing that with miller miller lite and to give work holiday parties you proper sendoff is teaming up with a visual artist by the name of alex prager for a full exhibit called farewell work holiday parties y well nothing says farewell to an old tradition senior in a museum to celebrate all the extra miller time With a real friends the season whether it's virtual or not get great tasting less filling miller lite delivered going to miller lite dot com and find delivery options near ut miller time celebrate responsibly as always miller brewing company walk. Tonight's calories per twelve ounces could be drinking quite a few miller lite tonight porn some out for our fallen comrade tommy. Canley is gone. It's the way it was the one day because like you know so it's wednesday. You know where this is. Our one of our only two weeks really awesome work july fourth other one so i was like okay wednesday going to sleep in a little bit half still do some work. Obviously but Woke up at like noon. Twelve thirty and got cut the fucking ken. Rosenthal tweet sent to me. That town mckinley signed with the dodgers. And i know we're all on pins and needles here about digital mayhew. But that's just a fucking i mean. Sure he's gonna miss the whole year anyways but it's just a gut punch to see tommy canley signs and it's not the yankees and that guy going to grow. His beard out is mullet. He's going crazy his hair and it's going to be for the l. A. dodgers not the yankees and that just fucking broke my heart this morning. Yeah sucks. I mean you sent the a tax than our short group chat saying i want a di- you jay news. I thought it was gonna be something much worse than that. I mean good socks tommy. John was a fun part of the team but to me like real heartbreak without got tommy. John's out this year anyway. So yes sucks. That in twenty twenty two will be on. A different team won't be a part of this year. But i don't know i i feel like the tough news with him. Sort of has already happened this. This was maybe a little bit more of kicking the nuts. But i kind of wasn't expecting anyone that is true. Two thousand twenty two problems as worry about that yet. Look at you with a real mike. What the fuck is that like. That sounds nice Holy molar your podcast. And now jesus yeah. You're you're on other story to me. It's very nice and doesn't give me any promised me a new laptop of the year. Guess what the end of the year fucking scumbag replace right now. Basically like that's how bad it is. That's always be charged. But the to no surprise. Tommy's not gonna feel like that heartbroken mckinley leaving you know he's going to downplay and all that i don't know maybe i was just a really really big family guy from the start and then finally get him on. The podcast was so dope. And yeah i mean like i don't know it just sticks like britain's tweet zach. Britton was like really sad like that relationship has gone now. Tommy canley. that's hurts. Ma'am hurts a little bit more than it. Should it hurts. I think the overall like culture of the yankees and stuff but understand we gotta save. I wanna die tweets for if the gentlemen that i'm just dishes known positive news everything's bad. There's no positive news. Say i'm getting sick of the new york yankees. I am getting real sick. We're sitting around the entire time. And i see nothing being done. Yeah and like so. We avoided complete disaster. Because if i woke up to tommy canley signs for the red sox. Today i would have. We would do pockets. 'cause that'd be dead. Apparently they were the runner up here and had a competitive offer that would have been. I know i could not just that would have been impossible. Perfect oh four sock to personality definitely definitely gets him and millar would have been like the palace no doubt his his contract. That's like five or fifty five hundred fifty thousand dollars. Bonus seven fifteen. Two thousand twenty one three point five in two thousand twenty two which is expected to come back with more bonuses. Whatever matches nothing to five million dollars like you can't just fuck that man if they don't do if he god help he's if they don't bring back digital may who like this would be the worst season ever be unbelievable. I don't know what their plan is. I truly just don't know what the yankees plan is right now. It's not. I don't think it's going to end up. Well i have no. I have no reason to believe they're going to figure this out the right way. Yeah i have no hope anchor becoming franchise that up losing all their like like you lost Dd last year. You'll lose keenly role mine role mine. Yeah i feel like i mean. Cc retired obviously. But i just feel like they've lost so many of those character guides gardner again. He's a high he's a high clubhouse guy but so much what made the yankees fund. The past few years. I feel like is is going away so i better start fucking winning. Because we're going to be a nap on team. That doesn't win i think. Those boring stiffs on the planet. If they're gonna win they're gonna win a world series and i don't care but it's like being like the next move honestly like if we're just going down this path of misery where like the endpoint is dj signing with somebody else. The next point is like trading void. Like how much you wanna break my soul. I'm really wanna like. How defeated do you want me to look look void. Being traded would be the next step if we're just going down that path if he's don't resigned dj. I really think fans. We all need to look at ourselves in the mirror and consider making a statement to this franchise we need. I know. i don't know how. What does tommy smokes. Do to make this statement not buy tickets next year. I mean i know there might not be fans but whenever whenever there are fans again. We don't buy tickets. We don't buy any merchandise. we like. they don't signed it. There is no excuse for not signing. Dj if they don't sign dj were were like swapping with the white sox like white softer trying to make big moves. They were the joke franchise. And now it's like the the fucking yankees are doing. Nothing i just. Don't get how nothing's been done. He was on our team. He wants to be there fucking figure it out. Well the good news is they just want to all series and eleven and the report now a deejays. It's five for one twenty five and he's not budge. That's a little different from five for one hundred and the yankees were like four for seventy five. It's no he was five for one twenty five. That's a big difference to me. The big ask but meet in the middle. She'll do it in a heartbeat. But i'm just saying like how far off they are people like. Oh it's just a little bit of money. He's like that's a lot of money. I don't know that's a lot of money. They're often A name that's come up. Which i have been interested in for a while and seems like this team is really just getting ready to everyone louise kathy on the reds is named popped up on the yankees have interest. Whatever and the you know the report would take ton. Now that's a guy you can slide in as the number two and you feel really good you know everything else. You'll cole could steal and everything else. After that falls in the place that would be a guy. Now it costs a ton. Maybe it would cost medina medina by the way down in dominican as twenty five strikeouts in eleven innings easel fucking electric factory. That guy gets up easily. Just re shoring up the ranks. That guy needs to be here quickly But yeah i would. I would love lewis kathy. I don't know what exactly would cost. You know it's not causing jason to stop throwing around. They're not trading jason for anything but we still be my opinion. You're the number louise. Pistachio superfan always had made that. No right like. I think a half way i would be down to him. He's the best changeups in baseball from the starting pitcher. It just falls off the table. And he's young. He's under control. I'm all about him but it would cost a ton. Think the red just don't wanna win They made the playoffs. Now again. we enough of this. Let's just blow it up. So i love to take their straps literally any pitcher right now. You even said it right there like oh we got coal casteel and then like whatever else we have nothing else right now. It's just coal and whatever else. The rotation is really scary. It's really really bad way. It really bad way. We years in our our. We're going to go through this. Thank you just got to add a couple arms. Like i thought after adding you're We got our horse now. It's like the it's like the opposite of how was like for so many years with danke had like the middle on the back end. They just didn't have that east now. They have the ace and they have nothing else. Thank god them. Imagine they just didn't get cold. Yeah like what we. We'll be doing here. We have a little bit more to talk about here. Knocking me longest show in the world but we are the doctor talk about. Those are good and one other thing. Quick before against that though. We'll talk to is about hooters. Hooters just physio they. They were all around with the the barstools could with where the place was in america the philly sports because we were there all throughout the playoffs You know that will be cooking back up. Probably when we get back on the swing of things once break is over but you know who has been there For barstool pretty much. All twenty and hooters calendar is now out for twenty twenty one. You can buy the counter local hooters. 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Its best to make sure that doesn't happen and these guys stay open The videos are legitimately like tom. You tweeted yesterday with the every single one of these videos. Were dave call. Somebody and saves the restaurant is the best thing you'll watch all day. Where like even dave like a person who we know leasing abortion not the most emotional person in the world but like you could see it even like he's like touched by it a little bit so parcel fund is fucking awesome to is like i hate talking on the phone but like i love doing these calls. I mean how cannot yet the us i mean there was really no nothing helping small businesses like the government. We what one stimulus package in march. Maybe another at some point but really nothing like you know. They're dying and for a company like barfoed. Use all our resources for this and hopefully be able to save as many of them as possible is. That's what it's all about a love that dave is like so into as well because when dave's into something it's going to go off like he's just calling outwit like a twenty five k boom done. Ripoll white red dana white hundred grand. Yeah and then we got that polka guys given twenty five grand. Now it's it's just a fucking ripple really cool to see. Yeah i would really like for the yankees to get more involved here They had this tweet about So many words. I don't see graphics. Whatever they put out they don't need to. I think it's gonna be ten. Businesses like get five k. each around the bronx whatever. Just nice. I just. You're the yankees. They know. it's so tough to like. Yeah you know. It's tough to do it with charity but if porno giving five hundred fucking thousand dollars. I've always thought it's hard to donation. Shame rate because a lot of times. Jeff bezos will do something and they'll be point zero zero zero one his net worth and shit right but like this is different where the could very clearly given like. Yeah sure they're giving fifty thousand more than a lot of people in other teams but you're gonna go through making a fucking eight tweet. Graphic seemed like and like be like. Oh where you know doing this reopen you gotta do more to you. Have their one one. And a half. Two billion dollar franchise like five five billion. Oh okay five. Billion for period. Like if you're going to like i. George steinbrenner has like a famous quote where he says if you do if you donate or do something nice for someone in more than two people know about it. You did it for the wrong reasons. So the yankees like tweeting about. It is very clear not hauling that. We're going to tweet about it. Just better be more than fifty k. Scarlett be like half a million or like. I'm like did they you out. That was such a move where it was like the yankees franchise who used to do things right all the time. This is like another step idiots. Yeah the ben. Heller had a tweet pitcher for the yankees. While i'm definitely not. It was coinciding. Dave 'cause he was reaching out to kevin kevin hayes. All those guys and heller said well. I'm definitely not rich but my favorite part of new york is all local restaurants and bars. So many do my small part and help. How can new york shows. Lots of love for the yankees. So it's time for us to love them back hash day. Barstool fun hashtag new york. And then he put the link for the barstool fund. Beautiful awesome ship. That heller from a clouds Really like that. He's a big stool. Everything he he's he's tweeted at the before. Yeah like about the strikeout challenge or something. I could see that with. Kevin hayes given twenty five k. And and the yankees are giving. Fifty is not look didn't win. They've won with fifty. What gave you did get fifty right. Wigan whitney whitney the yankees only gave ten times more than gats is like they give it that way and corrobos jerry and fucking jared. It's bad So i really hope they answer the bell. I'll buy part of a break to reach out to some people because we. I wanna get anybody who we've come. We've come cockpits with some nice peop- you know some fairly decent names. I think a lot of people love obviously love new york city and play for the yankees and all that they want to get back to these. Everyone loves the bars and restaurants in new york city. Don't want them going away. They've done so much for us over the years. So i definitely want to do my part and help out as much as i can so hopefully spread the word. You can't listen to this. You know some people you know this is the time to give yourself even like if you got twenty five bucks or whatever to give you know every little dollar calico i. It would be so cool. One day for one of us to come through ten k. Like obviously. I don't think any of us that might edition but if i had a layover break shirts for my whole family goes rallies they got awesome shirt. Do what you can. Obviously everybody's limits are different But you know anything you can afford to give Doing spread the word. Yeah it's sucks to see like gaz give five can use like i'm a poor. Fuck is i mean. He was a millionaire. No it's great. Yeah go on the bar. So the link for the fund is on the short porch instagram link. You just click that you go right so It's all over twitter twitter. Find the link. Google barstool fond dance. yeah And then if you go to the store we have certain shirts review by pretty all the net proceeds go right to the barstool fund Then you know and there's a fire merch out. There loved an office. things eliminate. it's all good So go check that out. And let's pressure the yankees to fucking get more involved here. Because i think they they should they really should and oh and lastly The documentary came out I thought it was really good. I'm some. I'm critical of these documentaries. Like remember sosa mcgwire one. That came out with espn. That was horrible. I didn't learn a single thing with this documentary. I learned a lot. Like i was always tense. The last half hour of that when they talk about their i wrote down a ton of notes But my biggest takeaway Was finding out the real story of when he stepped away from the yankees the end of the twentieth. Fifteen season right before the playoffs. Because i remember my gut reaction. And i was like fuck guy this is. How can you just leave this team or this is me. I've been. I'm in college so obviously an idiot but i'm just like you know they're play the astros. Whatever in the wild card. And i'm like how is he not here. What's going on like this is bullshit the real story and it's like the motherfucker was too drunk to throw a bullpen in baltimore. So then he came. He went to cashman. Said like i gotta take care of myself like okay do your thing. And then he took a ride back to the city from baltimore and before he got in the this is to go to rehab. He stopped the liquor store and grabbed two bottles of hennessy and finish them on the car. Ride home to new york. That's like this guy had a gigantic drinking problem. A titanic. tricky problem fucking credit for getting around it but that was. I didn't know idea it was that bad. Yeah though that was the most interesting. Yeah i kind of remember the same thing twenty over the news came out almost like whatever suck this year anyway. Right right every sucked anyway alabama. Could it be like you know like he's appropriate. Or how bad could it be because as they showed in the in the documentary like he pretty much had to drink problems throughout even you know oh nine through twenty one and twenty games a year. It was the same one of my takeaways. Was like good on him for detoxing the day before a game in the date like i wanna go three straight days been drinking than to be like all right all together now like glad. He was able to do that for four years. But yeah i mean you think about it and those three years were really bad from thirteen. Fourteen fifteen injuries but yeah it was probably mixed and getting older but also like he was a raging alcoholic. That was drinking three days a week. I'm sure it probably all caught up to him was really interesting. Look like behind the curtain with a lot of stuff. You didn't know you. And i when i saw that it was like i lewis said myself. Shit 'cause i remember tweeting the going absolutely nuts. Being like my good i mean. He just backed out because he sucked. That's the only reason why he's doing. He's not an alcoholic. There's no way the day before a playoff game is like. Oh i just found out on alcohol. You could have done it. A one-two right right now. That was actually what a convenient time like. No one just finds out the day before but then see like how crazy it actually was was not cool but it was like at least like it's cool to see someone actually open up about that and like talk about their problems. I actual reaction was. Couldn't you just fucking rehab in a month. That was that was my that was my idiotic ticket. That's what that's exactly. I was trying to figure it out was going back into my brain and it was like come on man fucking one month and then go to rehab and that's idiot me but it's good for doing it when you did because who knows what would have turned into and you tell me you mentioned it. So he his scheduled wrote it. Down was basically. He'd pitching a game. And the moment he gets the clubhouse they had a crown of with the sprite. Crowd is crown. Sprite win firm or something like that. He joked that and then he gets blackout that night he get black the next night black on the night after and then his detox we just shutting down all water basically and like gatorade for two days and then he and he just did that for like a full year two crazy fully. I think it was more than that. There's three years right three years. Yeah it was also. Thinking is a an all time. Butterfly effect thing is because he said so twenty fifteen. They clinched the playoffs. And then that night. He didn't drink at all while they were celebrating. And then when they were on the bus to baltimore baltimore someone handed him hennessy to drink official like think about if he never gets handed that bottle of hennessy. Like you're like. Wow that god crawley of handed but no we should up. Because if he doesn't start that been drinking that week. Any probably never comes to that moment of clarity. Where realizes like he has to get his life together. Yeah and that all spiraled out of the the the fight in the fight in toronto because he had to fight to the club in toronto. I honestly don't remember that too much. I remember it a little bit. And then he stopped drinking completely and then yeah the celebrations. You notice in the video of them celebrating. He's getting champagne poured on them. Who comes up them and says yeah feel so good. Did you notice. It was john ryan murphy. All i remember that. Yeah yeah people get going fucking john my in murphy member that which was jaromir feel like weren't there a bunch of yeah blackout. I wrote down like eat. Quick hitting notes. Do you go throw. Yeah sure one. Quick thing for me is There was a moment where they were playing radio. Callers bashing him and john jastremski people pass your this guy's up so i had his wife almost with an all time old takes exposed like in the very beginning which is like cece kept telling me he was having a heart attack and i was like no. You're not like he has like the pulmonary like a legitimate heart. Problems like that could have been bad. pl- footage of playoffs at the stadium. Made me miss inky stadium. I don't know what it was about like the his last game. Whatever camera fucking whatever thing. They were using the stadium. Look so cool Footage of him as a rookie. You just looks exactly like it. Pitching rotation didn't change at all. He has motion was the same. No matter what the way he steps off the mound and like tugs at a shirt like shrugged his shoulders brewers that was just a reminder of how awesome that was our member Remember not the mets on the playoffs. Wheat and i remember like as in the basement with my dad Watching that last game on my mom. Who's a mets fan. Is upstairs unlike hearing her. Cheer for cement stuff austere for like any positive Up and then the brewers won. And i rode my bike to my friend. James's house chanting mets off. They're out of the playoffs or whatever so thankfully so. We just found out that tommy's hates his mom. Yeah that's other a rivalry of how much you hate the mets as us. Hate your mom. Now i love my mom. I don't like the mets fan side of her and she certainly would rub that in a lot. I think in my childhood my mic. That was art of it like got that we were house. Divide so if the yankees had like a devastating loss. She wouldn't comfort. You know she she she. She was very. she'd be more supportive. Okay news each. It was not a two way street. She was supportive of us. Like google and yankee road trip and like shoot. Wear a metro outright root against the yankees. Like if we went on to see the mets. Like we're absolutely okay. Not to a street. I would have liked more about free agency like the all. They really said yeah. He didn't really want to be yankee at first. And then signs that biggest deal. I would have liked to hear more about that courting process. Yeah i wanna know why. He didn't want to be a yankee like why. Don't you want to come to new york. And then they go to cashman and how about that fucking punched in the face like yeah like day one. We were not letting anyone else signed him. Wish the fucking same same rationale. Currently brian overhead had it last year for cold. I'd like it every year. Cameron may been forgot he existed. Yuck him he was a fun guy last year. Completely awesome about a guy like lou fun and they lost cameron raven old-timer day. They showed that. I feel like i feel like the next old timers day. Probably won't be this year just because that's like a superspreader event and there's literally so many old people it's the whole fucking tireless. Old people could probably the worst idea ever to do. Alzheimer's they right now. And i hope it's like all out like cc's back jeter. I don't think he's ever come back for old timers day right. Marrano came back last year but that was his first. I want to. I want everybody back. I want everybody living up along. Clemens there yeah i want. Everybody like won't go back until now i was going to be such a cock something. I don't think he'll go to baseball. Is the owner of the marlins. Was that fucking matter. Doesn't matter at all he's not like managing the marlins where he can't get a day off always. Tj are you could. I mean you were. You were confident. But i mean rutgers is absolutely routing house yeah. This is fun to watch i. I'm the i'm the only one screaming about russia's no one respects them. I got some clips talking shit about rutgers in the past. I'm ready to break out if it's amazing file. I'm very particular about my ruckers phantom. If you don't support rutgers early get the foot line. Dm's with hubs from the borstal ruckers account from like four years ago where he talked about rutgers one time and i tweeted about it. I'm not a rutgers fan. I'm a circuit. I know i know i forget what i tweeted. From the mersal rutgers account i bet them against illinois that was dope they were they were so easing illinois these dams i mean baker. Still on this fucking team. Gio baker still. They're the tj. Like t. j has like the ruckers terrible basketball team just till recent a who is the guy that used to have. Yeah corey sanders. Where's that guy or is he alive. I believe he's in poland or guy was you just. Don't fuck record sanders. That guy was electric. You guys suck besides him. But september twenty eighteen. I said great gangs coverage big short. Porch guy says yeah. After i had tweeted something mean about you saying something about rutgers on twitter. Oh c. k. C. realized not actually mad just mad at rutgers so i guess they must have lost that day because it was september and then i said keep up the great yankees coverage big short porch guy the respond s i also suggested a void shirt and he said sorry. Only one voice shirt at a time at the moment. Yeah that was back when like we literally like. We couldn't make many shirts. I wanted to leave for thing to do. Track someone publicly and it'd be like all just jokes brother and look where we are now to get hired by hubs exact like as an internship right now. But we're here there were you. Oh tommy to add your list loud funny when getting his yoga iota make just driving. They didn't they didn't like address. What happened from the start. I was like what is happening. I was like what he's just driving is yona what's going on. Oh it's star wars. They make sense. But here's just make done in his house and driving his. Yoda fucking freaked out. If i was just like driving next on the road. I just see yoda giant iota. His son i don't his sons. Just gotta be good baseball right. I was wondering the same thing. I was wondering how good he is he. Look it looks like the angelo russell peck. He's got a little de ngelo russell to him. I don't know why. I just assume that he's good very athletic. What else do we have here. The whole thing is dad was crazy. you know hiv and then the cancer and then you know he is. Basically wife had the tell mike. Yeah like he In riga yeah like. He's he's rehab. he's not yeah so that was crazy. he finds out he made the all his first all star team the same time as he finds as data's weeks to live with just crushing. So yeah he he. Basically the whole documentary was like anything. Good that happens in his life usually followed by something horrible that kind of like narrative continued throughout like pretty much the whole documentary but oh and then the whole thing where he was supposed to take that an abused pill whatever twenty thirteen. It would make him sick when he drank a just fucking spitting it out just like prove more like the alcoholism shit it's deep and it's heavy it's not gonna make you laugh the but you learn a fucking lot and i think those are rare with documentaries these days and you appreciate c. Forty was and how good of a pitcher he was boat with anybody who's good and has fame and all that you know it's not all sunshine rainbows behind the fucking curtains. You know there's always some bad shit going on so i'm happy in. He's he's he's also show ripped out. It's crazy though. Like the video of walking at the ends as they're like closing up doc. He's like a ufc fighter. Now like a straight up fighter. I'm forgot how fat he was there. The highlight of him on the tampa bay. Rays shutout was like that summer day. Yeah look for hit shutout like he looked so fat even the best when he was fat i know he was. I wish they did my only wishes. They did have nothing to do with the alcoholism but they did five minutes on this. How much he hates the raise just randomly just in the middle of the documentary. Just start ripping on all because he hated him through his whole career. Especially obviously you know this twenty nine thousand nine thousand eighteen version or whatever but i wish they did something the race would have nothing to do with it but overall i really enjoyed it. Hbo max joe check it out And yeah i've got nothing else here. Obviously just hope they hope police. I'd dj love god. We've got some time off here which is nice and if dj does sign at any moment you will hear from us in the same fashion. You heard us like with coal. You know that we're not gonna wait. Whatever we'll do. Emergency pod came to. I think it's ten or What year is it. Twelve year anniversary of the yankee signing mark to share pretty dang december twenty third when it got announced. I was in the basement with my friends after school last day before break and just go nuts being holding like the guy that same ben friend over and i was like holding like a mistletoe over like my ass or deck and be like. Oh that was good. Wow what would you hold it over your s. What we wanted to kiss your like actually like kiss you dick. I probably what the fuck just happened. Like just my ass kiss my ass okay. Friends yeah i as- whatever you want teacher just my ass. I got no problem with you. Do your thing man. you a f- guy. Oh yeah well so even door. That's that was probably. Because obviously i wasn't really a college basketball fan with mellow like i don't think i was into it. Then but david door. Those teams were like they hooked me big time. And he's the eric even dorf can raise almost fifty k. fucking syracuse. Small businesses shot to handle awesome even doing. And he's been you know I think parcel accused teamed up with him and stuff they have shirts out whatever good stumps there on a podcast sunday. No he really fuck. Yeah i actually was going to suggest. That maybe i did suggest to you. I don't know but That's that's dope. He's one of the best college basketball games ever. Oh yeah was it was eight over. Six overtimes overtimes six over time. And then there's the there's the image of him Standing he jumps up on the On the table whatever. Yeah he's he's iconic in q. Sister us that's dope. That's out monday monday dope. So if you're a college basketball fan obviously syracuse fan wherever you listen this. Go checkout bench mob on monday because that's gonna be s. Be awesome looking forward to that that by the catch train home. You guys go home for christmas. All i am home. I'm going home to your home. Yeah last time in this house. We haven't sold yet. No it's like it's sold as waiting for the day. Gotcha gotcha yeah some. Yeah i'll be home for a few days. nothing crazy. it'll be back next week. And yeah that's it Next week We'll have an episode And obviously anything emergency. You'll hear from us with dj obviously And that's it so Guys listening So far this year twain crazy But i think we've entertained you. We tried our best entertain. You guys mini yourself. those now will continue And let's fucking start sounding people. Because i'm losing my mind Tired of saying goodbye to people. I want to say hi people instead of That's the show. See back here next week later. Oh this john sterling. You've been listening to short porch. Byproduct barstool sports season does stove hussein jim off season and god pulled down the down dot com. That's some out sticks twelve.

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Episode 103: Joint Ventures & Strategic Alliances

Marketing Above All

10:27 min | 1 year ago

Episode 103: Joint Ventures & Strategic Alliances

"The cash from the chicken wing capital of the World Buffalo New York. You're listening to the marketing. Above all podcasts your source for all things well. Marketing and total world domination a nation. This is marketing above all. And this is your host Michael. Hey daryn welcome to episode one zero three. Today's topic is this strategic alliances collaborative marketing and joint ventures so in the digital marketing universe joint venture often has a pretty negative connotation and the reason for that is it typically has meant and someone promotes you you promote them and hope that it works out for the best so way back when let's call it ten years or so ago and even five years ago it would be okay. What's fine people that have emails. Let's promote their products. We we get to promote US and then we both make money now in theory that that's definitely great idea but what ended up happening was one of the partners. Wouldn't fully fulfill the obligation. The responses would be better with one of the partners versus the other and just kind of created a little a bit of a Icke type of environment with local businesses though strategic partnerships joint ventures and can of collaborative operative marketing can be a massively effective tactic that works for both sides. So let me give you a couple of examples in. You'll very quickly start. Our Ted realized I guess the power of this but also the vision of of what. I'm thinking for you to the most simple of examples as you walk into a business. Let's say it's a restaurant and then in the Waiting Area you'll see maybe whether it's a flyer liar couple of business cards promotion something for a business that is not a direct competitor of that restaurant. Maybe it's the laundry mat next ex- store. Maybe it's the movie theater. That's nearby so dinner and a movie. Show your restaurant receipt and get five dollars off your ticket or free popcorn or something like that. Those two businesses have made it a point to you leverage off their audiences. So let's say it's a restaurant and let's stick with the example of the movie theater while then at the movie theater as you're there then there's GonNa be some signs or business cards or flyers that say catch dinner before after the show at Xyz Z.. Restaurant Show your movie voucher and get twenty percents off your bill so the restaurant is driving business to the theater. The theaters driving business to the restaurant. And there's no hard cost to either business now if you think about. What's the downside to either of those businesses now my initial reaction Israeli. There's no downside. The only downside that I could see that if the food at the restaurant is in great and then people are like. Why are you sending us there or or the movie theater is grungy or something like that and then they're saying the same thing to the restaurant will we. Don't WanNa go to that theater. You WanNa make sure that. Both businesses have upstanding relationships in the community. But other than that. Then there's really no downside risk your both sending foot traffic to each of the respective businesses at absolutely no cost. That's a strategic partnership or a joint venture some other examples that you can start to do is partner with businesses that are similar to yours so you often hear this with car dealers if there's a couple of local Toyota dealers. Chances are semi high. That there's not just going to be an ad for one turn dealer right but rather an ad. That represents all different dealers in the area. If you're all selling somewhat of a similar product why not strategically partner in grow all the market share because the chances are high that if you're in a particular community ready you're going to draw from the people that are closer to your particular dealership so if you're doing a radio radio or a TV ad you can't just laser target one particular community in the geographic area. A lot of these radio stations. They reach forty fifty sixty miles so I would much rather go to the other Toyota dealers and say well. Let's actually join forces and let's let's invest some collective money and expand the share in general and in total that is a- an example of a strategic partnership now the piece was strategic partnerships and joint ventures and collaborative marketing. You WanNa make sure that they are equitable and fair relationships. Because that often is where things start to take a turn that isn't as productive. Where for one business business fields. They're getting the fair end of the stick. So if you were promoting a restaurant for example you're the movie theater and you've got big posters posters and signs and business cards and it's really apparent and then you walk into the restaurant and they have your tiny little sign in the corner that that's not necessarily surly affair relationship now where I'd love to see you take us to. The next level is to think about what else you can do you. What about that restaurant sending out an email blast and a couple of social media posts once a month for the restaurant. What about the restaurant doing the same thing for the movie theater. So you're not just having something in your location. But you're also oh strategically promoting you went to what values echina- bring world the values gonNA bring in reciprocity of the theater. Doing the same thing for you in a dozen cost you anything to do with it. Expands your customer base for essentially no marketing investment whatsoever ever. So what I'd like you to do is to make a list of some of the businesses that you could see yourself collaborating with and you gotta think outside the box here. I mean it doesn't have to be a business that's identical to yours by any means can be a business in the same area the same shopping shopping mall the same strip mall. It could be a business that you know both of your customers frequent for example bowl childcare centers and taekwondo for example. Or if you've got a childcare care center. What are the other places that they're going to be frequenting the pediatric doctor's Office for Example Playgrounds Fund Centers. So why not partner to help each other grow. You're not directly competing for those same customers but the key key again is to make sure that. There is a symbiotic relationship here because that again is when I've seen it take a negative spiral negative. Twist as where one business fields. They're doing a lot more and the thing you've got to keep in mind here is you've gotta maintain your expectations gotta maintain your expectations just because of businesses promoting you. It doesn't necessarily mean you're then going to get a flood of customers. You may help drive them. What customers and that very well may just mean that they're more interested in the other business unless it's distracting or taking away revenue from Your Business. There's really no harm in doing so. And if anything. That's going to continue to motivate the other business to one more when I've done strategic partnerships and things like that. I have been much more motivated when I start to see some success the times when I've been disengaged Canley is if the other business doing some promotion promotion and I hear crickets so that tells me they didn't do anything they didn't have a big audience or any kind of audience or just wasn't a fit but I will tell you that that's not GonNa get me to jump on a bed to make sure that I'm promoting other business but again if I agree to do it. I'm going to hold up my end of the bargain. So think about some businesses that you could do some strategic collaboration with that essentially cost both sides. Nothing and will continue to help grow both both businesses. Hope you've enjoyed today's episode on joint ventures and strategic partnerships. Get out there and take some action. Michael Tasers after starting off. Good morning good afternoon and good night. See you back here tomorrow by. Thank you for listening to this. Episode of marketing. Above all get out there make a change and take some action and hey don't forget to leave a five star review and tell all your friends. This is the greatest marketing podcast. Ever ever we look forward to seeing you here tomorrow.

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Episode 172: We Got Him - The Tommy Kahnle Interview

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Episode 172: We Got Him - The Tommy Kahnle Interview

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Celebrate Response Leave Miller Brewing Company Walkie Constan Ninety six calories and three point two cars per twelve ounces joint here with Mari. Mush Tovey smokes. Tj the ones the twos fellows. We opened the show with some pretty sad really shocking news to me at least Hank Steinbrenner Cohen or the Yankees Chairman of the of the board. He passed away at the age of sixty three this morning. Reporting on a Today's Tuesday Pass Away Not Corona virus related. He had a long term illness that kind of makes a little more sense anything about because he stepped away from public viewing for what how really became the face of the organization over the last like four years. I WANNA say but Yeah Hank had. He's been battling some illness. Some people are saying it's liver related passes away the age of sixty three truly shocking terrible. Like my jaw legitimately dropped opened up. Saw The tweet from the New York Post devastating stuff. Obviously you click on it and and nowadays you're automatically assuming own help corona or whatever turns out not growing related at all. Yeah like you said definitely makes sense because there was a time I feel like in the late too late. Two thousands like that first decade where he was like you know very like much the face in the voice and like going to be the new George or whatever saying a lot of stuff and yeah then turns out he had this illness and miserable or thoughts and prayers the entire Steinbruck family Yeah really shed This is the worst part like is right. Now it's probably. They're not going to have like a really ceremony sharing yeah. I didn't even think about that. Fuck like funerals and all that at sucks virtual on stuff out of the how you doing. He supplement would have a huge turnout. Obviously yeah for sure. Yeah at you put it perfectly like kind of like the late. Two thousand two hundred eight. He really became like that face of the like you know he was. He was the next George like he would say like he kind of just didn't give a fuck what he said like albums more reserved and calculated. How and Hank would just come out there and be like you know He. He has quote about the Red Sox. it's alway going anywhere in America. And you won't see go anywhere in. America. You won't see Red Sox hats jackets. You'll see Yankee hats jackets. This is a Yankee country. I got just like he said those types of things he was kind of like a quote Karl a time This is a really sad. I I WANNA say the did you see John. Hayman's tweet now. That was weird. He he tweets you know how like when a trade happens like a big signing and like he gives credit to people he tweeted. I report on Hank. Steinbrenner passing Joel Sherman. That's a weird. That's like a toned our entire tweet the entire tweet. That's so fucking weird. That's odd like yeah. He does do which like all right. Fine you give credit for a big scoop traders or something. That's not something where like Joel Sherman was. Hey I need credit for this. No no Oh my God. Yeah and he does that a lot. It's almost like he doesn't even break news anymore. He kind of just feeds. Boris quotes. Like out to the world could Borcelino his guy and then he'll be like. Oh Yeah. Buster only reported this three hours ago. Just catching up on credit. That's his John Hayman's I kind of love. That's kind of a sick job. He does nothing. It's amazing he's easiest. Job in the world dislike report. The news that you heard from a friend hours later too. It's like Oh just catching up. You're just catching all the time. Just catching up your on this date. but yeah very sad news. Our thoughts are with the steinbrenners. Robert Malloy obviously Friend of the program and all that Can't imagine having to go through this you know during the quarantine all that just awful Another death unfortunately. We had to talk about real. Quick is Anthony Causey. He was a famous near New York City sports photographer for the Post. And it is crazy. You go through this guy's instagram. And what he is responsible for taking pictures like he has he has the Derrick. Jeeter the most one more economy pictures INC Yankee history. Where he's through this the depths of the Yankees of old Yankee Stadium and he hits a sign that says you know. Thank God. Make me Yankee. It's just like He. He was there for all of these moments and Yeah he he passed away with Corona virus. This was two nights ago And you the sports world everywhere just coming out with their tributes perspective on NBC. The other night I think syndergaard had one Pretty much every beaten beat writer out there. A lot of New York athletes were like touched by this guy. Very Sad He seemed like a legitimate good. Do this one actual picture of This couple in central park random couple who The Guy Proposer and causing just walking through central parking photograph. The whole thing came up afterwards. It was like Hey I took these professional shots. You guys like you want me to send it to you and just did that. That's the kind of guy. He was pretty cool last picture on instagram. To is so heartbreaking. Oh yeah his candidate in the hospital bed with the mask on say never thought I'd get something like thought it was indestructible by. Do make out here. I promise you this world's not gonNA hit Was March twenty second just devastating fucking diseases real viruses real taken seriously. You could feel like never going to beat it. Just stay inside. You gotta go outside. Wear a mask wear gloves. You can never be too careful. It's just like hits you everywhere. The numbers starting elite level off a little bit looks like in the city. But it's not you know we gotta keep going keep pushing because otherwise it's going to go back so we got to really hammer sir. Really sad news in the empty causing thing for sure Switching gears a little bit lighter note Obviously you're listening to this Tommy Canley is coming up Long-awaited interview We finally got him. It's about an hour long and it's fantastic of for against that Canley has been doing Streaming he talks about this on the shop How economy has been running a twitch stream to the audience of like five people up until a few days ago which is crazy because he doesn't have twitter instagram nothing. There's nothing last this information to so he's just been streaming and doing this thing. He was playing with weight and judge the other night. They're in. They're playing call duty and then he will show. I hopped on the show with him. We played a few games I guess it was a bad sign when I beat him With and he was pitching himself That was the bad omen for things to come later because he does play. He plays in the show. He played it on Monday. Night am when owned four and it was not great so People were not a little bit for sucking on the show. It's it's a tough game. This game is very hard glitch. Ian Shit so really. Wasn't that good right. Yes he's gotten there he thought he. I mean I stake so I guess. I'm not a good barometer for anything. But he looked like he he can recognize pitches. Hit he just. Can't he pitches with I don't know how many times because play video games but He uses the camera angle behind the pitcher when he pitches. I always like to hit like the the the catchers you and all that he pitches behind whatever I would do games. I always if I was pitching I. I would have that year that he does. I can't do all right. Yeah I just. I don't know that's just not. That's not how a lot of people don't very few people do that way so two. Can't we stick an shots? Okay I think MATT IN HIS GAME. I watched him play in the madame playoffs. He Played Wade. I mean it was because he talks about in this interview. How like one point? He rattled off forty guys on his mat and roster. And it's crazy it's like I don't even know that many people like on a normal roster like the packers I feel like a lot of people know and he just rattle off like fifty names on his fantasy drafted Madman League roster of but he's he he might actually get hired after like he's done playing baseball to be like an NFL coach because he reads defenses. He literally calls out what he's about to do. And he's just destroys people. Wade had weightlossforlife forty deaths. And like you probably have been more commonly says he lets up on people so Ganley's Gallison must watch. Bso We have the interview coming up for you now And it's about an hour long. Tommy he was able to join us. the full video up on Youtube. I think in like a day or two to go. Check that out After this so you to give us to use their But yeah. I mean you can't leave was great guy saw about the interview about the. I thought it was everything we could ask for. You know he's knee is advertised. We've basically talked about him on every single episode Till now or finally able to get him instead of asking people questions about McKinley. We're like hey we could just ask them ask them ask them to him ourselves He's amuses Dawson. Yeah I literally thought I was interviewing myself the entire. Yeah you guys scream brain or he just doesn't care and like he just is really good at baseball. Yeah the whole the whole drive yourself doesn't care and is really good at baseball. That's exactly how I describe. No He's he's in type of personality that baseball needs to hone in on and like get out there for the world. So we're doing our part here by getting on the show here Baseball really needs to make toffee county like a superstar because his personality can make the sport popular like instead of having announcers complain about. How Long Games are Jessica Mendoza? And all that we can have people. Just talk about Tommy Canley. 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I'm pretty terrible. Show I did once and it was pretty cool. I couldn't throw strike. Oh you're you're easily my favorite guy us you over Chapman. Your is pretty show. I don't know if you know that read. I was eventually I got to a point. I was just started showing up every time I came fast offers strike miserable. Well that's like the same as you're doing the live EP. Talking with saying he faced your lobby he just gets like five changeups in a row from you so the other ones I caught. I play a lot of cod with brick. So we're on their murder and a lot of people. It's fun you played zone so we not the war zone though other one. I think it's blood money now was playing right for. Yeah for some reason. Last night I had a game. I'd like twenty four kills. Going fucking shit overnight. Call Duty Player on the team or is there someone that gives you run for your money? We may see currently I would say probably yes now before it used to be Tarp was pretty good Tarpley. Okay yeah he was pretty legit but we have one of our assistant clubs. He's he's fucking nasty. It's gross. I've never seen a player like you to my life Nikolai Have you ever thought of doing like a twitch stream like doing? Yeah I do have it. I basically like stream every night. Don't realize Oh yeah they have no idea like any social media right like I like. I feel like you're an outgoing guy in person. Like why do you not do the twitter instagram with all that? I don't know just I guess my rebel. WanNa be the rebel guy. Just rebel against it. I feel you would be probably top-five. Mlb Twitter's if you let it loose. I don't WanNa get one just in case Rally a good idea. It's probably going to do. We don't have anything so we are you willing to release. Which name is you? Keep that a secret? Nah I'll I'll let you guys. I actually changed it recently. So people could probably find me better. It's just tikan forty eight. That's it very interesting. My show one of these days were. I'm about to be in some crazy. Thirty Person League coming up here shortly. I'm going to be trash to show. Yeah THEY WANNA pick a guy for each team and have them do like a twenty nine game season play playoffs? I'm going to be trash so it's like a thing through MLB yes. I was selected for the Yankees. And I'm going to be at least I got there at the offense. Let's good I'll take that Garrett Cole works. You might get screwed up. Because if they do live Roster Zyuganov judger stanton so that kind of stuff. That's not good. Yeah I was looking at it. I'm like I'M GONNA kill if I've played smell like I love. That game is a few of them who just live on that stuff. I can't play that besides like video games. I imagine your big TV show movie Guy. What you've been binging on so maybe my wife we were catching up on I really like to watch those like air over shows on CW. We watched that we caught up on shit. Modern family All the comedy shows single payer Superstore Shit. A lot of Netflix shows. I don't watch Ozark or anything. Everybody's been freaking out about this. I have no idea what it's about just started. It's very confusing and it's a lot. You gotta pay attention. I'm a big Jason Bateman guy but only like to watch them in comedy movies. I refuse to watch him in the series exactly. Yeah I'd rather watch him in a comedy. He's hilarious identity thieves for just watched hundred twenty episodes of gossip girl in two weeks. Oh Gosh my wife would love that if I did that for it wasn't that I watched it for Blake lively and then ended up just being like all right. I'm just GonNa Watch this show at this point. I'm stunned. Yeah there is one. We probably watch it for that one actor. The guy that plays a I can never remember his name. The Guy Plays Winter soldier in all he was in it and I thought it was a mistake. I'm like wait. What's going on here. Did you see the show? You a necklace of so I was GonNa Watch it and so my wife she. She watched the first season. She got into the second season. She said there was a part where it is scarred and she shut it down. I think it was like the Meat Grinder. Substitute off the rallies. It's like the show this is someone is someone who's writing the show who wasn't a part of the team in season one. It's like I'm I don't even know how people come up with that Shit. Like all right. We gotTA relax there might be actual serial killers like writing the show. Yeah come on. What are we doing? We gotTa Watch out close. People is right in. This crazy shit's going Louis. Nineteen seventy now. Yeah I WANNA see that. How was that? It was great but I don't think anything happened what I think it was two hours and twenty minutes. Just fucking walking shit from what I heard. Everybody's been loving it. That's what I'm saying. I'm also a moron so I might have missed. That sure actually happens so be watching. Let me know. I'm definitely GonNa Watch that Syria? I gotTa Watch that the euro huge marble guy in a comic book Guy Right. Yeah big big time. Yup So What who would? Who is your hatred? Com- marvel character. I got to so I. I'm begging a captain America deadpool. Yeah Yeah those two favorites high Try to keep track of what goes on with them. A lot or office captain America they are. Tadpole like yeah. It's like Jekyll and Hyde Manson. That's why I like to give people my personality right there. You never know what you're GonNa get ever you During the season when an game came out where you were we So I didn't actually see it. I usually go every Thursday night to go. See those movies and it just happened. I wasn't there or we. We were somewhere. I don't know why I watch it. I ended up seeing a week later in San Fran. I think is where we were. Which of that overall thoughts were that racket loved it I gotta put it number one. Okay yeah out of the marvel movies all time I for some reason I star wars favorite movies. Okay even like the new ought not the newest ones the only one I liked. The new one was rogue one like that one. Now I've been telling people it's the best. I fell in love with the the main actress in that ended up just watching all her shitty movie. She's done in her career before that. She's in some like like a ski lift movie. That probably made logger behavioral. Don't live right life rights. You don't Shit like that. There's no reason to watch for movies. Missing is widely to this is how ended up and gossip. I watched era movie this break and then and now I'm on got finished also girl. I don't think I have anything left with Blake lively gotta move out of somebody else. Are we doing here like the movies? Do you like the Co. Are you a comic book reader to do you get the so? I don't have like I only have probably like five or six actual comic books but I have a bunch of graphic novels so like dive into like basically. I actually have him over there on my desk court. That's pretty cool. I mean grab them for you if like US pop up. There's still hear me. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah. Are you know grabbing? Yeah let's see. I think that's an awesome. Share Meta share is so fire. I love doing got up. That's awesome Tenable you guys listening to Tommy is holding up some deadpool comics vendors verse. X-men very cool turtles. Read up on them. Yeah that's coming out of only west to I got offense shipment. I got like ten more lease somewhere hidden away. That's awesome anything that's GonNa read kid your book. I can't read. I can't focus along. My wife always tells you try to read. I'm like no see I'm over. It isn't reason to read that many pages notaries reason. I don't know how people do it. Well you gotta be locked in. We've made movies like we had books for before. Movies were invented. Egli up to the media. Got Better if you could What happened on the marble a little bit but if you could pick one superpower what would a bit. I always say I WANNA fly. I think that's sick dagger or regeneration you'll have to be an asshole. Big Ailing also buck line regeneration regeneration. That's that's the big. Yeah that's true. That's pretty sick. Most on the map. What do you got? What do you think would help you most on the mound like flying not do shit right? That's it it's gotta be super straight man strikes hundred percent. I will say though. If you flew out to the mound. That's like fuck like got the flames and all that. But if Tommy's flying out to the mound I mean what are we doing here? Also you could watch like any deep fly balls. Just take off and flight. Maybe that is the answer would never give a whole. That's like a jump up flycatcher. Walberg back your good switching gears a little bit of quarantine life. We're all all our eating sleeping. Schedules are so off. I don't know yours are. But what's your go-to late night? Desert at like one in the morning these days I eat late to be honest. Yeah so like I cut it off. Probably rounds. I'd say eight. Eight thirty is the latest. I'll eat something but it's ice cream. Hundred percent okay. I get those little pints of ice cream snatch gone. Sega Smash Flavor Usually birthday cake. That's my shit terrible. Another big chocolate dark chocolate guy. I don't like I don't fuck with dark chocolate but I'll take like chocolate chips and stuff for sure. Take people people think? I'm weird when I tell them. I don't like something but I love. I Love Candy so I'll I'll eat a snickers bar that's trumpet. Uh-huh it's different in their cabinets. Exactly who recently that? You'll just go through a whole bag of gummy worms. Like out in Penn. Oh I yeah it used to be terrible like I was bad back Raleigh Shits since twenty sixteen. I finally kicked that I used to eat literally like two pound bag of Sour Patch. Kids smashing it during the game. I was obsessed. I mean I went today to target like one of the time to get out of the House and go get food and stuff and I must have bought shit five six bags of Sour Patch. Kids gummy worms. I don't even know what else acts everything I stacked up for the next like three weeks so I never have to leave the house. You'RE GONNA finish that by the end of the weekend right. So who is the Cook in the House these days? Are you cooking yourself or his wife handling that off? She she does she. Does the dinner stop so like? I'll offense for myself for breakfast and Lunch. But she's got me she's got me for dinner. She's good what's best thing. Shit I don't even know the honest everything. The only thing I ever cook at night is usually like burgers and that's about it. Baranov burgers could on the grill is about it but she does like the steak chicken all that pretty solid You talked about us. Are you go? Yeah you got your job you were saying about like your old died of like going through like crazy things you had this crazy red bull coffee thing. Talk about that for a little bit. Yes for a good while man. I was just as I think. I had like a really good outings after I had like three rebels. One day. It probably just made me super lock. Had No idea so there. I was like I have to do this every gate next thing you know. I'm doing three every game for like months. Next thing that year goes live next year. I'm up to like four. This is probably doesn't sixteen by drinking like three or four day than seventeen came and upward six. Just getting insane. Those was year. I felt I was so locked in a it was outrageous that in eighteen. I kept doing the same thing I was like. Oh I gotta do the safe thing. It'll work now with downhill new. Bring over to the Yankees. Is that everyone like what the fuck you do that for. I mean I like what the fuck this guy do a little bit. I did you guys before. Like coming back so like they kind of give a heads up like hey. This guy is pretty fucking nuts. The like it's eventually everybody come to love it and then just that's how it is you have to do it. Works like what I always mentioned. I played college. I jerk off once before a game. I went Oso right for doubleheader jerk off against long superstition in baseball. It's ridiculous well. We tried to play off thing with your magritte-like member that you got a bad with those Nami was was wearing. Burchett chewed on by a bird before like game one of the Al this year when you guys beat the twins the twins get the astros is wearing a short with Burchett on it for like two straight weeks. I the same thing. Look if you guys won the world series. I was ready to send that to cooperstown. That's amazing I do shit for the eagles like if If they if they lose. I won't wear plugging single thing. The rest of the week till Sunday or if they win I won't I won't watch basically anything I wore the week before. Yeah you gotta so. Eagles be your number one fan. Yes hundred percent. You got some weird shit though. What what is your magic fan. You're what are you? What is that? So growing up The Eagles I start like when I was like four years old. I remember watching the Eagles jets game of course like sit in front of the TV with my POPs. Next thing is like coach green but like eagles because it was sick so I was like I. That's why I'm with next radio. I like Randall. Cunningham. Just spirals in their Orlando. It's because of a Penny Hardaway Just loved the guy couldn't couldn't get enough and who else like Carolina Basketball Eight. Hardly great this is a great year so that not tournament so resigned like them was eight point. Jamison not even not even Michael Jordan dismantling J. I respect that Irish infringes and abusive Michael Jordan. It's like no no not even that and then people hate Ri- sale minority football fantasy low that I got for my thoughts. I can't Oh. Yeah that's that's that's a different story but you can't sabres. Yeah big saver said you are so all over the All New York Dima like that's it like people give me shit all the time about your another planet with that but you have a pretty good reasons. I feel like I didn't expect those reasons I expect. There's there's a reason there's always a reason that's the something I got going on. Yeah okay enough. you You like to mess with a lot of people as everyone saw with the the behind the scenes videos which were so good hopefully can continue those as the season progresses and all that but everyone was kinda demanding to the Tommy. Canley one and moving. It was it did. It did not disappoint. Who would you say is your favorite person? Thought with a man Scotty Brit. I'd say Brenner Chad. I can't I don't know if I am point. One but Suka is totally different. Like Chad's really quiet doesn't like to like kind of be outspoken. Ever bric Brit will be like come at you with something back. It's it's pretty fun like going after those. You have a favorite prank or like something that you ever pulled on me. I don't think I've never really old any pranks they do. They do that shit to me all the time. That's the thing I'm the one that gets all that stuff like every every every gain cy. I usually go down like an inning or two before Britain and so every time I go in I'll get like a couple of seeds and I'll put it up on the door so like when they opened the door to console over. I tried to do that every game. Never been the victim of Gartner Prac- all he loves dude. It's me what what is so. One of them was What year was it was an eighteen in camp? Spring Camp He told literally the first day Russell showed up. He goes up to him and tells them. Hey that guy you gotta you gotTa do something by the time. He leaves here. What he ended up doing was so last day. Russell Stair steps He's always there. He's air super early everyday. So I came in coming my locker all my eagles jerseys got DOT C. It didn't know where they were. My helmet was like Kinda this year at the when the Super Bowl so the helmet dumping thing I get closer. I look at it. It looks like it signed by run someone S. I'm like what the fuck this guy decided. Eagles like this guy. Give me next year. I kind of look again. It's early sounds like all still hired chip could see next. I'm like Oh let's take the group that obviously the next thing you know there's a there's a Jersey of Russ just hanging in there and it's like hope He's like don't need these eagles jerseys anymore. Oba Hope. This one's good for you go hawks. They signed that news but basically he liked him somewhere and put that pull the program and everything but it was all because of garden elaborate plan rest guarded by hand through the whole thing to everyone came up goals so far every single player. We've talked to. Have you ever been the victim of garnered prank? Like no the Tommy every single time. So Oh yeah so his name I think like at least it's gotta be at least ten by now without a doubt. I bet you some. I don't even realize that he does. He's probably show mad. He's like how did he not realize what just happened? You just keep going. He likes to get everybody with the The salt in the drinks. It's the worst. Yeah Oh yeah sometimes you wanted to put it in there but like sprinkled all around the drink like like he did put it in is the worst I have. I have a feeling that might Karki has gotten you a few times. But the whole thing Faking that you're going in He He's got a quite a few times. I know you always does the everybody the first time you're there. He does it to a rookie every time the first first game there gets them up nate. Y'All doubt and sit show ass down. But he got he does get like if you Kinda Mesler He'll try to fuck back with you doing that. Then you get. It's like patch. Get your heart rate and next suit show. As that's incredible I listened to their On our to Ruko podcast with CC. Him buner like these huge bachelor fence which I just had no idea about. And they're like they were telling the story of how they would watch it on the IPAD with a glass of wine on the bus and they refused to get off until there's a commercial and that's because I never would expect hockey and boon to be those guys but I'm telling you right now there's probably at least ten guys that watch that show and dancing players players rat him out alumni out right now. I know it's great. Greenie is one montgomery. I remember in spring monk. Montgomery ingredient like a series finale. Like big like party like set it up like made like a cheese red meat scranton. My come what do we do these? Boy I know like you said like art watches it. Buni try to like I know points more. I just can't even pinpoint him right now. I like it see. Montgomery do a nice little cheese picture. Montgomery sharing a glass of red wine. Greenie his wife in Mani they'll have like little like big watch. The Watch the series this spray. I was like guys. What are we doing this whole time? I'm trying to picture you explaining to. Dj Lemay who what the Bachelor isn't him just like not competing with any of that is because like I wouldn't be surprised if he watches it with his wife. Sarah Yeah Fair Enough Dj. Who usually. Because I feel like so hyper and everything and Dj just so locked in like can't figure out anything but baseball like do you ever do. Try to mess with them sometimes So I yeah so. I've known DJ for Awhile so like He's probably one of the few guys I can. I'm one of the few guys get more album than most people so I think it's pretty funny. 'cause he'll even come out of his way to talk to me about like Shit and it's pretty funny because he doesn't do that most people but I can get him laughing and shit he loves it because I'm pretty out of control so but he loves to talk about like hockey. That's his thing he loves. I always mess with them with fantasy football and madden anything like gaming wise so like stuff like that. He's really interested in so you can get them going. All the time that but is for the most part will be quiet. He gives you like little smirks and stuff when he finds it funny. But it's just now is the Silence assassin that. Yeah I mean gotTa love what he brought to the table. Last year hopefully can do it again. This year So obviously the reason you're at home right now and no playing is this whole quarantine thing and we're all doing our part here and just recently. A few days ago they came out with this proposed plan of basically a bio dome in Arizona. And all these all these rules. What early thoughts on that? So I I WANNA play. That's the one thing I want to play. I don't care what what happens. I could care less days. I just want to play baseball again. I'm stuck here doing nothing. So I mean what in terms of Arizona? I'm not a big fan of Arizona so I wish it was somewhere else but I mean if that's the last case resort we gotta go to. I'm all for it but like I've always told everybody. Arizona's not pitchers friendly place especially those spring training sites. Those those places are wild. I mean I would mind if he played in the Dome but it could get interesting if we play it all these outside places. Okay so I it's not has something to do with Arizona like the people or anything. It's just like the air in all air quality. Off-line is not fat. Yeah there's no grass no trees. It's it's not one of my spots. Come UP HERE UPSTATE. New York and get away. It's great. It's what did he what was part of the proposal. Is the strike zone like electronic strike zone the fastest year? Like all that stuff like sit next like how would it be for you? You're always like talking everybody. You're going to have to be six feet. Apart for everyone in the stands that can be a doug. I thought about that like yellow. I'm literally like just probably be yell at people like sixty bar just yellen because there's nobody in the stands besides just us so it's going to be like what the this weird Allo. They won't even need the Mike. You guys you can just hear you in the background like screaming. Hey Brian Hey Brian you see that. There's a good chance you're going to be here in mid inning and shit like that. It's Oh man it's interesting the electronic strike zone. I don't know how that's GonNa work. Because that's what to me three or four years away from like they were just starting out in the Atlantic where they're just testing it out and now we're just going to throw that into the majors like that could be. I don't know I think that'd be. I left the whole six foot thing is going to be interesting either. GonNa do August. Would you now feel like pitchers might Kinda like that? There would be no more mound visits. 'cause you guys don't like getting bothered on Mount? Sometimes that affects you a so the I I think it could affect some guys like I know I. I'm not a big fan of mound visits but I mean it does give you a breather every once in a while especially if you throw in like fifteen twenty pitches. I'm out there. Dass like just like I need a break right now right. I think it could. It could affect some guys for sure and guys that basically feed off what the like. They need kind of some kind of feedback mid game. Maybe I know I know some guys like that. I might need that but it could. I think that could be a problem. If there are none you come off to me. Is someone who really loves like the feed off the energy a fan. You saw it right away in the twenty seven playoffs like those are some of my best like late at night. Go on Youtube you go watch the Tanaka Canley game like you bail and everybody out go fucking crazy and then so now. We wouldn't have that it'd be it'd be a huge strikeout the bases-loaded everybody out and just be like golf clubs like whatever. I feel that would mess with you. All I mean to be honest probably will a little bit just because I do feed off the fans even though that could be a problem sometimes but I get to jacked up. Sometimes I don't make pitches but the energy is like a big thing when I'm pitching I love it and Cook it weird. If there's nobody in the stands beside just your teammates y'all I mean it was just like planning college against me to be honest. Sharona like twenty fans anyways so it was like cares. Yeah I was trying to think how a walk on with working with like Shit. Can't go near each other now. Walk off we're good quality to watch us go nuts. When no one's doing anything there is a good chance I'll still be going nuts when there's nobody stance talking shift to the robot empire or something going to happen. Oh yeah what's the most foul balls who catches the most home runs you'll know competitve fan's stance exactly. It's going to be so strange. We're going to get rid of US going to get the ball that's going to be pinching solid. That's what we do is like one guy was always designated will get the foul. Morgan was the worst team in high school. Last whoever gets out with your the good rushton room man brutal so on like a plane. We always talk about like how. Dj So quiet. You always Kinda see him in these pictures on planes to sitting like his head turned away from everybody like looking at film. What's your like activity on the plane like? Are you literally jumping around from like Rotorua? Like fathering people I am. I am the loud on the plane. That's that's that's definitely for sure. I mean there's Times or hurt we take us that I'm trying to serve the. I'll try to serve for like ski. Like this is what it is like talking to myself right now. I do a Lotta dumps it on the plate so oh man I gotta keep it keep you live though. Yeah there's always guys I try not let sleep. It's our trainers. So if I see him sleep bloke over like play with their hair like flick their ears. Something they get this house. My next question is like who is like the worst flyer who is there. Somebody who's like always like there's a little. Bit of turbulence you freaked. Oh everyone's great. I'm the only one I yell. At some of the words though some of the worst is is one. I O every time that happens. I look and I go. I know I know he's like shut up. Eight eight hundred but I think brick. It's pretty freaked out with it and then I green actually next to me saw like I'll hit him on his leg lock regard. It's great by guys. You're going to be fine. There was There was a few few people at work this year. Who were flying flying private for the first time. Yeah one of the guys at work. He literally just sent them an article like the amount of plane crashes per year. It's like it's GonNa go find. It was big cat to like Trent. It was like why are you doing absolutely you sat there staring straight ahead like Oh my God this is over so I can kind of the same way with that which he freaks out man. I you should see their faces. Everybody's like Oh shit it's out of you know I have. You know you just so smart where he'd be like well typically speaking like or very likely down right now. That's the one thing that gets. Yeah it's crazy. I agree with you. One thing you'd like come on. What are the chances I actually like go down here? He's he's he's very intelligent. That's definitely one thing that's fantastic. We always like to ask Pitcher Catcher What is your coaching? Move in a brawl like you feel it coming. What are you a glove thriller? What's what's your move. There gotta be the spirit and then then granted Pam. Yeah you take on route or something. It's the goldbergs sphere and then granted. That's fantastic that's the farthest it's the Farnsworth basically or the Farnsworth. Yeah that's awesome. Yeah because you you were involved with that whole tigers that I was actually. I wasn't there so we'll know you were in like you were youth what you hit more or less started it. Actually I mean like time I was already I was already in the clubhouse. It sucks like everything. Everything accumulated by the time. I was already gone I didn't it was it was knee Warren. And somebody else were already up upstairs like and we couldn't you can't go back out on the field or else it's like some crazy fine. So Yeah Joe Joe in Warren and Joseph. You're not going there. He's like stay like you like I saw on TV. I don't I started sprinting. Just like no I was like Oh shit all right now would have been really funny if everything was dying down and all of a sudden come out like a bullet and restarts everything you got sick. Hey maybe who knows? Maybe this year next year we something else. Few Things Bruin here but Funny Draft Store View is where you were when you got drafted by the Yankees. You're on a Taco Bell drive-thru. Oh yeah that's that's very true so you just do not expect it to happen then or hostess hungry I mean I I was at my like old teams place so I was like. I got draft yet so I'm starting the like a little past la. I'm like I need to get through. I went to Taco Gal Grafton Street pulling the drive through next thing I get this. Call Him all right when cancer like. Oh Hey what's up What do you think about a you know? Whatever taking this for sure the next thing you know like they call back just drafted you. I was like Oh okay here. We go literally as to order the food. Shaolin down on since cream. Can I get the double Cheeseburger Larva clearly like trying to order. Got The call out on my God. It sucks right now setting Salad started all of that. Got To tell you getting drafted. What's your Acapella Order Let's see I always get the cruncher supreme meal. Then you get the this crunchy Taco and that come you gotta get the Baja blast with it does a guarantee. Yes no doubt then. I always end up getting chicken. Schlueter Supreme People hate the wind. Nobody likes that. Think it's great now. That was the chicken burrito. Then if I'm feeling good I'll end up getting a another coach. Crap Supreme Tactic crunching there. I do like those but I. It's every once in a while but eh actually start and the doritos locos doctrines. She's gotta get that. I can't believe that the cinnamon twist are just macaroni. Baffled every time. It's macaroni with cinnamon on Caramel Caramel apple thing. That they used to hip or I think they still do. It's unreal. I used to give it all the time Is this like pre diet. Tom Mechanic which is a current calendar. This is current if I if I feel like I need to get some fast all going at it gonNA order that holds. Go to fast food. No I would say that. It's gotTA BE CHICK FIL. I okay. I can't help myself. I actually to be honest if I really want. Go to McDonalds Shane. I'm I'm t McDonalds to everybody. Hates mcdonagh Donald's no everything right? People are down like Portland that they're like. Oh it's so unhealthy. It's not guarding. Mcdonald's awesome. Give me a big Mac nuggets like like. I know it's not healthy. I don't care that's the whole reason. I'm going there fucking leary's logo there. I one day like Donald's you can't try to be healthy kit like trying to help you. Don't go to McDonalds right elbow. I'm probably one of the few people in the world that actually eat filet of fish for McDonald's. I think they're fantastic. Wow my testing. Yeah Oh yeah. I should say craziest thing you said by Clark Hall Friday during lent meal and I was a kid. I'd love to hit a filet of fish for vice too long John Silver. That's the best I don't know if I all never had made you got to track down. He's actually talking belly long. John Silvers to get to. Yeah unbelievable you can't find value. They don't even exist anymore. Housing to say I have ever seen in New Jersey New York. All the time a we'll ask what I saw was in Scranton. Ta when I was there the last one I saw what a shame. I should have went. I didn't even go so mad. Never GonNa see it again. Never We talk about video games before lose. Obviously the very competitive Madden League Elliott Norman. At one point you're just playing for people. They beat the computer for them so we could just get into the playoffs. Oh no no no. I was playing for him. So in the as a commissioner you can go in and you can send them w or you can send him a loss of just they if they play. I could see I could see how many play so like some guys playing games econ sounds like you get the win. Whatever will get onto the next week that way. Everybody could make the playoffs and could be kind of fun so the first season I did that and we had five guys make it from the AFC. Because I didn't realize we had two guys in the AFC EAST. We had two or three guys in the AFC West so we had no AFC north team or no AFC south team though is basically like got your Shit Outta luck. Sorry and it ended up. Being voided was the one that didn't get it. Yeah of course and now he's GonNa be the one again. That doesn't make playoffs again this year. So I'm on the second season now. you got it where. I can see you being like. She wants to. What Heller in the finals unreal? I have the twitch of the game is on A. It's on my channel. Okay might have to go back and listen to that. I could see you like being not talking to your wife for a full day. It wasn't that bad. I take it that bad. I had it all set. You'll see how I lost. I basically looked it up. I had the win at. What's your go-to Mattis drowsier? You like somebody. Who are you gonNa you know punt on fourth down kneel at the end of the game are you just gonNa run the football to set up play action or you just balls to the wall Definitely the first part for sure. I mean it's four down in your in your own territory you punt the ball. Let's what are we doing here? This is like we're playing like arcade rules or something love. There's what there's only like one guy that does that frazier of course of course and then Like if most of the time basically killing all these guys anyways I just I want you to know I'll start running the ball on chewing clock in the third quarter. Just like keep the score down and let the game run. I'd try to like help them in stuff during the game like tips but a this season actually played more guys. So it was. It's been a bloodbath deed. So the the two games dj before when he beat me by two and then. I beat him the game. I beat him in the. Nfc Championship game was crazy. I got out to twenty nine two six lead and then I blew it. And he came back and took thirty to nine with like two something. I didn't convert. He got the ball. Bax and He decided to throw the ball twice and the the second time he threw it was third down. Take them off. Ran It. Back for a touchdown they went to the superbowl. That's how I played. Elrick is simple. Jesus Heller eller almost screwed it up and ship game against King ended up a scoring with like shit. I think like twenty seconds left king had them the whole game. Goddamn are you undefeated right now. The new season no. I lost the first week of the season. Computer allows pretty trump bar game. It's like whatever yeah. It was bad like this sucks then the next loss was basically me and older could flare game so I told him I'll just straight seven send it and of course team ends up way. I'm just like come on now. What was this a two losses? But basically I've the the third the rubber match between me and DJ. I beat them. Forty one to six basically. I figured out his how he plays. Now he's done it again on Ozzie. Played a beata. I've taken it softly. Last Guy Superbeet judgy yesterday. Thirty four to seven a beat a who was at before him away. I think waivers like forty one to seven actually forty eight fourteen. Somebody I beat floored like forty one to six. Oh my by those games. Don't I'd like stop. I just stopped. It was like first quarter. I'm up twenty eight. Nothing I'm like. I'm just GONNA slow down Heller on the other hand. He's the guy that will try to run it down the road so he talked about the other like a couple days ago. Eighty four to fifth or I was like I really. We don't hear I could do the same thing if I wanted. Roofless ruthless is completely ruthless. I couldn't believe it when he when I saw it. Now these are your drafting these teams. Right so what is your tier two? So actually this year. I made a lot of changes trades and stuff so I Right now I have a defense. I have on my defensive line. It's clear Max deal hunter. A hand is a superstar and Chris Jones and then at linebacker I have a Jalen. Smith drew tranquil. And so we did the dress. So I have a Levine. Chase the kid from lsu. Yeah Yeah. So who's your before like Mac blades at outside linebacker got it? What's your offense locally So we're ahead. I eventually figured out how to trade for once I got once Void TRADED NEED. Mccaffrey for like two first round picks. And something else I like number two loves bundle right. Voi-voice is does run the ball. So I was like what's the point he can happen here? I got them traded for Juju cooks have Isabela. Who's a superstar? Might tight end is a a changed chase? Klay Pools Titan wives good. I could buy spit it out but I think it's like Villanova elston Jenkins Travis Frederick. I'll talk to you. Remember your whole I just remember. I just I just like this. My my secondary growth sue. I mean I got a was it. A traded for Justin Simmons. My strong safety. I traded for Adrian Amos. Mike Corners are Byron Jones Jeff Okuda and Nickel of eight people and I won't remember half of them. You will all ribbons by the fifty three man roster if I could Brian Castle at some of these trains like ripping people. Oh Yeah well I was somehow trade. I basically figured out like the trae now is telling all the other guys and they were doing it. We're getting first round. Picks freedom to other teams like their star players but I kept going after Gilmore and Jalen Ramsey impossible can't get them. Can you cannot get them. I tried a million different things. That's pretty crazy. Yeah I I I love how I wish like. The mattingly was more like now. You're twitch dreamlike public. I'm sure people will be chiming in and watching that stuff by. Oh you people need sports these days. I'm watching like our boss is like opening packages and it's awesome random things and he got like Samurai swords and axes. You gotta go. That's sports to US right now. So we need. We might need to chime in on the Yankees Madame League. Happy Sports at set lines and just go from there because we got right now. I mean that's what we're trying to do is Brit was trying to set up a whole like twitch thing with the. We're actually talking to someone of the gaming companies and it ended up through because Britain basically didn't big like these guys I would say I mean he's right. There's probably four or five of us. That would probably ideally do what they wanted us to do. So I mean what I'm GonNa do it on my own will be A few more things will wrap up you. Had you thank you for your time? And all that but conspiracies. We always talk about conspiracies. Do you have a conspiracy theory that you'd like held onto that? You always think about big. He's alive man real one hundred percent. I guys real. Are you like a hunter? No IRA for some reason. Every time I would watch them I guess things real another whereas real last summer I was going away with some friends and one of my friends girlfriends and she was like bringing her friend and they were like. Hey like there's just one thing you should know about her like don't make fun of a little off and I was like okay. Like what do you mean? And she's like yeah like big foot hunter like see like sheep creek conventions like bigfoot hot with like what you doin. Bigfoot podcast like. How much weekly news is there to be breaking down every bigfoot merch so if you WANNA get into bigfoot game that's where you start yeah right yeah like I I firmly believe? There's there's an alien thing like the government's covered up under percent. They've already been here for. Who knows how long. I love that. I'm a hundred percent like Denver. All those like crazy documentaries on netflix about it. I loved it. Yeah the whole the whole Denver. Airport thing to me is just insane. Not only for conspiracy to go online right. The biggest thing I've been thinking about lately I remember I was watching some show and these people started fucking ripping off like seven different languages. How do you think we got mad languages? You think it was just people all started speaking English one guy. Hey got another person he said. Fuck you I'M GONNA learn Spanish and then it just came from just came from way out there man pillar just giving us weird languages Just throwing it all out there now. I think so. I didn't like you channeling. I'm wearing my own language to talk to you. What were you like in school where you just the problem? Trial like always in the principal's office. No not really. I was really quite yet well so if I didn't have any friends in the classroom super quiet just fall asleep. Didn't care didn't pay attention. Okay Yeah and then my friends are in the class. I was out of control. The teachers will have to tell me to shut up all the jets. That's pretty able quite then. 'cause I hated school I never wanted to be there. Aided yes I just wanted to leave. Go play sports outside. You'll do something. Sports related issue. This is just bad research. Did you go to college? Yeah where'd you go to college on the Lynn University? Okay so you're there. Are you just like schools? Why am I? Why am I doing that so I just WanNa pitch basically like so the first semester I I basically didn't do so well in our school policy is like you have to have two hours freshman or you can't play yeah ahead. Under that couldn't play. They were pretty furious that I was GONNA. I was GONNA end up being one of the I think I was going to be the mid week starter at the time but I mean whatever ended up working out. Start throwing like ninety five. That's spring everybody's saying Holy Shit. What happened the Guy who get two point? Oh but he's still a ninety five percent bad days just like fuck all right well I started lifting weights and stuff so I was like all right not saying the same thing with same. Exactly Didn't have a two point my first semester so I couldn't rush the second semester for Frat so didn't do a Frat so basically yeah. Did you say ninety five came out of nowhere just like one day? I was brought me throw live my. I live in the spring. Wam Ninety five. They're all like they like check the times. I didn't know what I came off the field. Probably you good name you know. Don't like ninety nine ninety five John It. Where were you before that in the fall? I was just like like ninety one. Sit Eighty nine. That doesn't satellite to people but ninety one ninety five is in Sync Leo because the fall when we like really like started like working out and stuff and like Nah I started once I was ruled eligible. I basically just long tossed shit out of the ball and just kept lifting and then by the time I got my I live. It was popped out all right. We're good was that in I point. You're just like okay. I can be in the big leagues like this is. This is real now. They might be able to get drafted now. More or less cool. Did he lived so again? If it happens it happens. I guess maybe I could. Yeah I would. I would the school just to play baseball in Florida. Act Cool sick on the workout. She you're coming from You came from the White Sox and you were the rockies before that first of all the white Sox I hate that. Stand the whites onto the worst team in the MLB. Should I honestly think they should be demoted to the minorities? It native White SOx stadium. That's fucking hate the whites but talk about like the except like I know coming over the Yankees. It seems like there's not really a big like oh like who's that guy the outside and all that kind of like accepted welcomed in. No problem is how different is that. What the White Sox rockies and how great was it with the Amine? It's definitely different like being accepted wise. I feel like the Yankees definitely. They do a great job with everybody like new. That comes in so then when I left I was the white sox like my first Sprang It was tough like really not know what I think I do. Like three people that from previous teams that played with So I just talked time and then eventually like people do like warm up to but it it takes a little bit. It's it's I would say. The veterans are usually different from team to team. So it depends on that but it felt like soon as I showed up in New York. They were like all right. Let's go. They're ready to It really they accepted it. They're like whatever pitching. Get Out. Stoneleigh fucking matter what you do. I will say like I had a great time with Chicago. Those guys were great in the. We'll say it was a little slower to get to know them. You know what I mean like but overall it was great. It was great. I mean we didn't do. Well I mean what are you GonNa do? Thanks very good but I feel like a lot of good players here and there but I just didn't Mesh. Well I guess you miss having you have the beard right now Do you miss having you being aware the beard in the flow like you have the rockies so I missed the missed a hair cut to be honest. Beard right now is just because I'm so lazy I literally won't go take it and just buzzard off. I don't know why I've I've been telling my wife every day. I'm like I need shakes literally. I don't want this is like I just I just don't care I just don't feel like going upstairs just buzzing it off. Whatever cares. It's itching I hate it. It just had like my neck beer right now. Basically this if I could just have like stub. I guess it'd be fine. Whatever yeah I don't mind the shaving whatever need for a month out of like not. I've got rocket ordeal. So says the man. I told myself I was GONNA shower for this because I'm Chad like he's at this point. Just don't leave my room all day. I was like the interview today. We'll do that just didn't happen. Maybe we'll maybe it'll happen tomorrow. Who got a couple of years back to buy a good gap where I haven't showered for a couple of days? I just don't care. There's no point we'll wrap it up with this unless you've got some other questions but who would be your favorite and least favorite personally be stuck in quarantine with right now. Let's see my favorite person's GonNa be Britt for sure. Is it your partner to now? Actually A it was Chad Green before and then Brit stolen from me last spring. He'll say well he didn't but they did and then let's see who Leased thank. There's someone that you walk over to them to try to mess with them. They just roll their eyes. Like not It's got to be one of the by afraid you'll see real is awesome said Dj. Because like he just east miserable right now without baseball so I bet you I could figure out a way to keep him pretty like yeah. I could figure it out. You might be able to save safety Janelle by needs you. You facetime him. You should face time after it'd be like hey man like are you good. I gotta get him on so he. He actually texted me. I think it was yesterday. He's like finally downloaded concert places for like about I or if you've been he plays xbox like gotTa stop is playstation time each still watching film from like last year. All right highly. I got best. We can move on at this point. I think he is pretty miserable. He can't go to the field anymore but like I got a video of the other day. Where he's he's on. His roller blades can do hockey shit. Kitchen unbelievable is what his life Said like that all the wives they have like their snapchat. They do all day and Yeah they his wife said Ronca my wife's the one that I see him just rollerblades dangling That made its way to social media. You WanNa know but it actually. Yeah not in his kitchen and we're like Oh shit like Italy really more just point. Good stuff I would do it in. We can figure it out. Yeah I've actually. I went to his his family. Friends placed one time after we got in from a flight. We went over there and this guy this house's crazy like there's like multiple basketball hoops tennis courts. Next thing you know like there's like this court can play rollerblade hockey like we're doing right now when we went out there and I started just record shots instead. It was great. I want side like hockey game. It was unbelievable just to make your just what the Hell is going dripping sweat? That's incredible you guys have anything else to ask. Tommy. Dj is human after all we like basically every every episode or every time we interview someone we asked about you. We basically asked every single person about you for like a year and a half or like once you crazy story and then is a human being so we basically got yeah. We finally credit crack codes. Kill two birds one stone. That is not that But Tommy really appreciate you taking time come out here hopefully see on the mound in Arizona. I know you. Maybe you don't like the. Hopefully the ball ball stays down your hundred percent increase. Which or you can just fly fly balls but real patient really appreciate you coming on taking the time. This was awesome. And we'll see out there. Thanks guys guys. I want to thank Tommy for coming on top mccamley coming onto the short porch. Finally I know you guys enjoy. I mean that was I. I rarely will go back. I don't like the sound of my voice and all that and I will. I listened to that full hour. Enjoy every part of it. 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You just came off of You're up till seven in the morning or something like that. I watched as long as I could. I think I think four thirty. My is stopped working but Jesus Me Like fucking pump up speeches in the middle of like three o'clock in the morning as you step the whole time. Tj Y- sickle. I'm up that late and not that late but pretty late normally but I wanted to make not when you start watching videos on youtube zero. Yeah that's when he watches like cats. Get -ducted dry. I'm surprised that one took a long as it did to be honest. I don't use the pot. The Pot was so small that you use the worst. Whatever was bullshit but yeah? I started getting frustrated. I threw up at like four thirty in the morning. I was a wild thing we got. I had too many apple out too much applebee's too many wings and Mozzarella sticks it was disgusting. It was just a mask in my mind. I cried at one point I was going to say. Oh Yeah I mean. At some point you reach a point where like you believe. This will never happen. And you'RE GONNA be here forever contingency plan if you just literally can't get something just have to keep going because you know what you need. Can you take a break in resume? I guess I could like accompanying hour power nap and then get back at. Yeah but you know. I didn't finish one. I'd get so much shit for it. Oh yeah for anyone confused and not caught the speed specifically my uncle Harry listening to this has no idea what's going on good to help you. Hope you're enjoying hope you're doing well. Rates meet in. Tampa Grayton RESEDA inside. But he Has Been doing this thing every Saturday. It's pretty much every Saturday. Right or is it is it. Is there a day Lachmann? It's usually Tuesday Saturday. Which is due to doing one tonight? Okay so much man. Whatever he does these crazy crazy trick shots and all that Tony People Watch them on periscope. But it's basically sports these days and this one he did on Saturday he basically had A golf club in his hand he has ping pong balls only seven at the time and he has the hit it off of the pot which is about seven feet in front of him eighteen in front of them and then about that pot into Danish mouth and then so he tried that and it took you twenty six hundred fifty yet. Twenty six twenty five and nine and a half hours but I 'cause you know you guys know the chat when you're on livestream light. The first time I went live. Someone told Me Coach K. Died I stop the Stream and went to go look at like blog Alec Fuck. He's very healthy. I had to go back and this time they're like Oh Scott. Van Pelt ceus judge our Gaza. Jails like all right. Stop like Louis. And they're actually fucking commenting in the extreme. Which is their four in the morning. He's like I should be in Augusta right outside watching Bush because I believe in most woman that was from him. That's a quote that you keep with you for the rest of your life. You Hang Your House. The thousand percent like jared. Goff's nicer all like good quarterback shirt but Scotsman pelts saying that is fucking off your expect Jared Goff to be watching that yes like a stool E. N. T. Wright Big Cat and then it's just like he's just ESPN's Guy. Yeah that guy. He was clearly like he woke up in the middle night. Maybe couldn't sleep. And he went downstairs. He was going to get like a glass of milk or so that he saw your stream and there's didn't leave that area for like hours. That was late in the night to yet. That was like three or four in the morning crazy. Abilene raise my fucking. The worst was yesterday. My back was done yesterday. Your arms must you either get blisters by my shoulders. Heart ALBUM FUCKING MASK. Terrible usual wrong club. My Buddy who was watching it was like he should be using a sixty degrees on a club. Pro I walk as I make a difference with Lofton ship. It does because I was using the fifty six or sixty and then all of a sudden like seven hundred night mix up. The clubs on accident was using a pitching wins. Oh my pitching wedge a hundred and seventy odds. We try to hit it five feet. It's incredible incredible. Oh in Biz. Nasty keep calling into the day that was did he not understand what was happening. Or is he trolling you know. He could not figure out that what he called. The stream stops every single day. What are the odds? Yeah he's like. Why where's the street trying to show you this dude you keep calling and doing when he did sir he could not understand for the life of like even only told me all right all right five but do pen kept saying pendulum credits via pendulum the pendulum I love that. What's the one you're doing tonight Have you seen that he gets tagged in it? Like the off like five different pods on now. Yeah it's GonNa be all in like how the pots are set up. I know that's not as hard as an art once. You ought setup. I feel like you know like eventually get it. But if you don't set up right you're you're fucked. Let's why the work on that after this. Please shoot some bigger pox tonight. Dry House bobby. We need to talk about finally have something in common here Austin powers that blew my mind. I lost my shit when they told me I was wait. What and then I started data. Happy believing that. Hold on let me. Finally we have something in common. What kind of. What kind of comment is that? You do SPAG. You're GONNA blow pass. I had knew that is that crazy. I supposedly yes whether dumb ones. He plays like everyone that movie. Yeah Fat Bastard. Yeah he's like every. Yeah it's it's it's created Michael Myers. It's like who this guy is all these people. But like. Hey puts up Takashi on did not realize that I saw Kendra tweet and then I was like I saw tweet and and everyone was like. How do you not know this? I was like wow. I never realized that I guess Goldfinger whoever go I don't know I don't pay too much attention to you. But back their evil is crates. You see those gifts all the time like Pat. He's got his pinky. Like the fact that I've seen that those gifts and should so many times and never put together that it's awesome powers racer. I know that like fat bastard. I could see like he's got a fat suit on rights-based but Dr Evil I'm in data have me convinced that fucking mini me was into. Oh a new. That'd been correct incorrect. I One more thing I gotta bring up here. It's been debated Hatami Group chat pretty much all week and it's not WanNa Grin. If there was one age you can go back to relive one year and then you go back to being twenty five twenty six yard but you can just take a one year hiatus real quick and then go back to this exact point. What age would you go back to is it? Are you going to live the same life that you live Yeah I go back to where I am right now. Yeah you don't lose any time in your life senior college so that was easy answer. So let's say take out. College Casino is is the correct answer. Yeah you know Senior College. I build back here. Well you should Tommy. Actually I was GonNa say junior college from chain college. Don't pick out no college all. Yeah let's say let's say you don't have to you. You can choose to relive it exactly how you did it where you can change things up a little bit in that. World Tenth Grade. That's sophomore in high school. Why I fucking like my balls dropped. I didn't sound like Mickey Mouse Anymore. And I when I when I was like really really drinking and it was like the rush of drinking and you're not supposed to unbelievable. I don't condone it. But it was unbelievable. I have two choices I was GONNA say just first year out of college like working are stolen stuff about your childhood not like horribly answering this fucking you're going to be. You did not make that clear. You told every answer we're giving like no you can't choose out talking childhood question. I'm going. I'll say second grade. That was my pretty much like peak like I was Charlie Brown in the school play. Charlie Brown Valentine's Day I twenty five lines be also more than like six Like the ladies man at the class in third grade. Actually here's a fun. Little Story There was a my teacher said. I never smiled but still there's one picture me smiling. She liked hung up at the front of the class and saw like literally my classroom. Just one picture me smile. Nobody else had their picture up there and one day Thursday. We were changing seats and Miss Sucrose. My teacher she was like I get my seat set and she was like it was like you have to sit across from a girl or a boy and girl in the class wants to sit next to palm is. Every single. Girl's hands went up except the one. I was literally fucking Leonardo di Caprio back. Who is the one girl who didn't raise your hand? Oddly enough a girl that I ended up quote unquote dating for ten minutes in sixth grade. so she says she was trying to like play hard to get. Yeah Yeah my answer was when I was twelve which is I guess fifth grade. I really just WanNa play literally again literally was so much fun like getting grade. I was pretty good back then. Like literally was like when you were like de sit and like everyone was competitive second. It's too young when you're in second grade but fifth grade talk competitive like I will look forward all week to whenever my weekday literally Amos and then Saturday. We play that she was awesome and in the summer you look at it like Halo three years of war. I would be cooking with you. Don't even know what was going on the outside world besides like when you're like the Yankees replying or whatever but like there was enough to worry about money. No insurance health right now like I. I woke up your day with severe chest pain in my left side. I was like wow. I'm just GonNa Die Right now. This is it and it just went away but back then you. You feel immortal when you're like twelve years old playing little league you're just kind of starting to like figure out what girls are like. Oh like they're pretty attractive. Like cool you like chasing them around. Even though it's not working but like it's just like fun I think. Twelve is the perfect time to go back. I I wish I could relive well. I think you're right because you're right like a one text message from a girl. Holy Shit I'm talking to a girl while my your razor some shit or like when you leave your aim message up like hey baby. Emma texts me. Yeah no they're also Do you guys have bbn? Now I'd be my first phone was in Envi- to the verizon envy to envy was fire Ayob Bmw Ping Do fucking I have ABM? I also my first one was did. Lg View was screen phone. That shit was also was like the first iphone kind of Ida t mobile sidekick which they hadn't Zoe Wanna one so I felt. I never had a razor. Never had a razor guys remember the voyager I wanted to voyager so bad I never got it but it was like before then remember. That was a fun time when everyone had their own different phones. And that's the envy kidnapped. The sidekicks twelve years old. Though that was when we were like twenty five ten for me which would be twelve which yeah yeah it was also twelve is on the cost. I met was five. I was yeah Novas twelve is also on the customer like Bar Mitzvahs and Shit. I remember I went to one who is spoken sick. Yeah and so. There's like a decent amount of like Jewish kids around your so like all my friends were Jewish. I had a bar Mitzvah that But when I had one yeah why have you Passover? Belated should we read that text exchange? Yeah Real Quick Mart. He's got to go to so we gotta we gotta go quick but now it's funny easier and reluctant so so you know it's the three of us. Tj Avery. He's an attorney helped us out with production posting editing social stuff like that last whenever Passover was. I don't know Thursday or something he. He texted in our short pappy. Passover Tommy out of out of nowhere out of left field like let me remind. Everyone a Tommy's last name is skip belly. I look you get sold all the time. I look Jewish. Okay like that makes sense but usually if like you know my last name like you can figure out Italian usually Italians or Catholics or whatever. Uh So he's happy. Passover Tommy hubs. Tommy is not Jewish. I just said what and then avery sends the Stephen A. Yet for it's like we've been hoodwinked. Bamboozles led astray hubs is says. My last name is human. I said my last Amos the belly he's like I'm Jewish. I went this whole time thinking. Tommy was Jewish shaking my head again. I guess I look Jewish. But my my name's in a giveaway and then Hayward said young Tommy Looks Very Jewish and I was like. Are you going to wish up over instead? I am Jewish Passover. Where cows over hub? I'm sorry religious. Don't celebrate it and then I was like at that point. I'm like basically this is like Michael Scott. Calling David laws for his birthday like this. Is Avery wanting happy? Passover ratio where like Abbie Passover Avery and that's pretty much how it And he was like from my recollection. I could have sworn he was Jewish so that was just a bazaar little little ten minutes of also five minutes after we all followed and got followed by the Bantu friends. Well Grachev moment. There were those. There's no like I just don't know why he had say like no result in you know what not to say happy and like I would never say that unless I was one thousand percent sure like yeah I do not have any clue. I need to see like you physically. Celebrate on your instance story for me I lately. Especially if he's Jewish should know like last names in should've being Jewish yes bellied. No not how. That's a clear wolf. No yeah crazy my bar. Mitzvah down thinking about it was so I don't I can't read any Hebrew whatsoever and so we're GONNA do it in March and in January or December. My Dad's like my GRANDPA was like. Hey like I really like you travel permits for for me. Okay like sure like you want the three months. You're like fuck so I went to school for one day. I sit down. They're expecting like the building school for Bartlett's. Yes so let me let me finish so I sit down there and it's like. Oh what the folks going on everyone speaking in Hebrew. I don't know one thing I'm looking around. I started like kind of laughing at myself. Like I mean it's just knowing knowledge that I have nothing to offer here like crazy. I lasted three hours at lunchtime. I have my dad picked me up. I am never going back there. We hired this guy who taught me how to read the Torah in phonetic English. So like Baru tonight with spelled out R. U. C. H. Like it was all English and when I did my Bar Mitzvah in the synagogue. It's I was in like the center a podium and there were two people who you go one by one. They're both reading Hebrew in English. Don't go and she will hoodwinked. Here's an I. Crushed it too because it was easy just pronouncing spell uncle. Harry might not know that this might be a breaking news. Dunkel Harry though the hell this show and he's all see my Yarmulke from my from the one I went to. It was a baseball Yarmulke. I needed to know I thought literally Thirteenth Birthday Party ceremony. Laura just like a wedding ceremony and reception did you. Is that like? Did you get lifted on a chair or what? Yeah I think so. My Dad was shit faced it but they do that but the ranks. The BAR MITZVAHS. Think part of being like twelve thirteen is. You're chasing one girl whatever and it's like fun. There was one girl at every bar Mitzvah. I went to where I went in. I tried to hide myself. I'm like you know what we're GonNa talk to this one girl this one. We're going to do it like I told you. Listen I'm going to do it. I'M GONNA like go dance with her on all this every single one just coward out every single time. Been nine of them were. I just didn't have to. That's also like why. Tempt girls like the sweet sixteen to I went to like one sweet. Sixteen I into sweet sixteen. I never did personally but my friends would do it. And maybe take like I think like a little sip and pretend like I was drunk. We got caught smoking weed and my sisters Sweet Sixteen and they. They tried to throw me out of my own. I'm like I am paying all people like four. This you get a little bit of like come on man the guy the fight for my uncle. I developed not my uncle my Family friend me out but Yeah that was the only streak I could Kenia. No fire sixteenth birthday fifty teams at sounds. I feel like the music. Those are unbelievable. The families stayed. Don't stop dancing. It's awesome I screwed up. I was dating a girl in college and I found out later on that at pershing weddings they just throw like hundred dollar bills. A you at night money. It's like part of Ritu Indian weddings like a week long and you get presents all the time. Supposedly fucked up. Well I guess there's still hope but well no I was upset because I'm not married right now right Okay well this is. What a wild show Oddly Tommy Canley and all our other random shit we talked throughout will be back next week with short stay safe out there later John Sterling. You've been listening to short porch. Byproduct of Barstool sports that you left a makeup on me. You try to tell prisoner to put everything about is better by coming into Gamma Honda. Canon test views. Oh Gee I'm loan a few. It's your hand if you can you be on your last name. Head count coming. Aw heads just use common. I my dad's birthday mixture. They'd go say Happy Birthday to my fucking shout out. Your doubts on the podcast. You should birthday on Saturday right. Yeah I'll have to start pushing happy birthday forties at a on the role on the podcast. We will get them next week. Your Dad's birthdays today about the only guy who since this show all right? I'll put this in the end after the outcome song. Happy Birthday I loved to Happy Birthday town. Never all right.

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Automate and/or Die?

Cloud Security Podcast by Google

17:38 min | 2 months ago

Automate and/or Die?

"There welcome to the cloud secure podcasts. Thanks for joining us today. Your host here. Tim peacock product manager for threat detection. Here cloud and anton traffic in the reformed band list a member of cloud security team. Here you can find the spot guests. Podcast distributed and our website when find a launch it. You can also follow us on twitter dot com. Slash cloud sec podcast. Today we have new guest a new topic and the topic would involve remediation and bucknell make dust cloud so guess. Today's joe. hey joe. Welcome to the podcast. Could you introduce yourself and tell us about your previous role at city as well as you current job. Sure thank you guys for. Having me my previous role at city i came in as the vice president of cloud. Native security engineering focused on google cloud they were doing google cloud adoption and my job was to use cloud native tools as much as possible to build security guard rails to protect their workloads. That would be going into cloud after my boss left. I ascended to senior vice president as well as the head of seaso's so special projects. So i did a little bit of work. Still mainly focused on but also with aws now. I work for one of the larger. Cyber security companies in the world still focused on google fire zone. When you're at city you focused on. Google cloud is is this like conway's law in action and was there an upside to that was good conway's law in some ways. Yeah i think that it was conway's law almost in a global way. Because i think there's a lot of large enterprise thinking the same way about cloud and figuring things out trying to closed security gaps closed the gaps in technology between traditional and close. And i think that cloud kind of just put itself out. There is one of those tools that allows us to build and customize you said you were focused on native tool as much as possible. What did that end up looking like. What does that mean for you. There was really three areas of security guards that we built so there was the preventative. Obviously starting with your pipeline moving forward. Then there's the alerting whatever siem tool you're using and threat hunting tool you're using integrating into that. And then there was the remedial aspect of it which we use cloud functions service was the greatest invention to hit cloud as far as security and being able to customize your tool by remedial. I don't imagine you mean like the kind of classes. I had to take his child. I imagine you're actually talking about the topic of our podcast today. Which is threat. Remediation are vulnerable remediation so we see a lot of people talking about threats. I honor abilities in the cloud in even within my product. We sometimes mixed them up. Do you think that chris definition was important. Your role at city or did you guys treat those as the same thing. They had respond to automatically. I think they were very much the same. But i think cloud certainly blurs the lines a little bit between the two. The chris definition still wins out in my opinion because they're still some level of human interaction or human made software that has to play a role. But i think when you think of cloud and you get into the idea that every resource is now an identity. So your vm is accessing cloud storage as the service account that it's attached to so it definitely blurs the lines and you have to treat it very differently and make sure that you're following best practices and i think again. Cloud is one of those areas where the lines are blurred. But it's still traditional enough. Your dyed in the wool technician is going to understand it. Yeah but here's the one that usually tweaks. Because i am the person who would fight to the death over the definitions and not confuse threats and vulnerabilities because if you forgot patch and you have a weakness that somebody can exploit versus somebody just hacked you pick the pasta or did something to me. The chasm is kinda huge. And i am really quite allergic the people who confused him however when we started looking at this specific to the cloud i kind of not just some of the workflows in some of the thinking and some of the processes are similar so i had to reset my brain a little bit like before that i'll be reaching for my baseball bat to tell people why are you. Confusion buffer overflow with an attack. Like these are from different domains. But i see that when people remediate on page system versus they remediate assist them where they have evidence of password compromise they sort of flow through similar steps and started questioning. My kind of religious fervor in this regard is that what's going on or something. There's new here you know. I think you hit the nail on the head. The threats have changed just taking into consideration. What we use to build these tools so server right. It's a whole new technology that a lot of people don't understand so you have these functions and you put the code out there one day. But if you're not monitoring echoed if you don't know that it's been updated or changed and you don't have control over those. I m permissions that becomes a threat and vulnerability almost at the same time right because someone can add a line of code. Start data exfiltration and you have a serious problem on your hand. So i think you just have to be aware that identity is totally different than the cloud and your identity and access management is where all of your security has to start at week. Password is still evolving their ability. But like you're one step away from being exploited in a very bad way kind of like. That's roughly what may be going on because to me. I like to highlight the fact. That identity is the main boundary in the cloud. You may not have layers of firewall. And that's going to be the topic of future podcast. I'm sure where we're gonna gonna wax poetic over. How identity is really your main security barrier in the cloud. It's not physical it's not. It's firewalls apologised to fighter vendors. But it's mostly the identity really does separate the good from the bad and apologies to the poor firewalls. That were being kept in buckets. That's awful is that too loose. Let them live their lives. They served us well so we touched a little bit on this. I sort of mentioned pro season. You guys mentioned automation. So the real elephants in the room is can automate remediation of on their abilities. And can we automate dealing with some of the threats in the cloud. So how do we go about that. So this is kind of my guest. Introduction to the main feature. Canley hope for the asian or not. I think so. I would say that in the cloud if you are not open to automation. You're probably in the wrong industry because it's given us the agility that we've always been promised a technology was going to give us so your products are changing every day. You're api's are changing the way that they are integrated is changing. And there's a lot of back and forth there. And i think that one of the things that has to be stressed here is from a remedial standpoint. You have to really test things. You have to make sure before anything it's production. It's doing only what you want it to do. So there's a lot of back and forth between the logs and oops. I didn't want to destroy that. But i need to layer this a little bit better but yeah i think. There's very few things in the cloud that i would say. You can't automate if you have competent engineers on your staff. And that's the hurdle to clear right. I think there's a limited number of security engineers and certainly even more limited number of cloud security engineers. We certainly talk about the challenge of hiring one of the things. We talk a lot about online teams. Ironically when it comes to guardrails how do we in our system for enforcing guardrails put up the right guardrails to help. Security teams scale their human operations with less effort. So one of the things. I run into a lot as a challenge. Those i talked to users about automated remediation and to me. It feels like there's a really big gap between where we are with automated response and where we could be with automated remediation. Let me even example. The teas that difference. Apart if i have a basement and water gets into see. I grew up on the east coast. This is the thing i worry about. Don't worry about in california. But if i have a basement and water gets into it it's really easy to have a sump. Pump that automatically has afloat. That kicks on pumps the water out. Now that's automated response but that didn't deal with the now moldy drywall or the crinkly pictures of grandma to deal with that. I call observe fro. They show up with a fancy fan and they fixed my house. That's remediation and so when you were building these things previously as the elevated senior vp. Were you building responser rebuilding remediation. And did you have a half from one to the other. I think that response in remediation kind of became in some ways because we were really solving for the fact that we had a lack of internal knowledge amongst ops teams amongst sock. I mean we were having to solve problems in engineering that ordinarily would have been the problem of some other team right so when we were responding to things it was important that we did kick on the sump dumb but also get all the artifacts that were necessary to build out reports so that we could respond properly. You know you don't want to just kill someone's resource and then not have a conversation about wyatt when it was so. I think that automation in to end is really the key. And making sure that you are keeping the artifacts keeping the documentation. It's just become so natural for us to automate everything at this point. So you didn't have human in the loop most the time. It really was truly automatic truly automatic. As far as i'm concerned you can get away with having a human in the loop and still call it automation but into end automation. It's really the key. The fewer hands touch things. The less mistakes you make the less likely you are to have human engineering and influence so it just makes for a much more secure environment but then you have to trust automation to be sure that remediated issue right like tim pointed out that this whole distinction in difference between remediation response automation can act. But like how do we know that. The problem is solved at the end human. Have to check. I'm trying to be been devil's advocate. But like how do they get to trust that. The problem is truly solved by the machinery with no humans. There is a of luke that you build with automation where you do the remediation and then you output the logs to report that the remediation was carried out. And then you have another loop that goes back and checks your automation to make sure that it is doing what it's supposed to do. Then you really should. I mean one part of the human element that we really can't get rid of is the auditing aspect of things you need those auditors to come in and check your code. But you want that checks and balances system. It's important automation will take far but it will only take us so far. That's really interesting. That automation routes in an organizational context of. We think we can solve this problem. Did we actually solve it. One of the interesting things is as security engineer and you just have to make sure that especially in leadership you have these metrics that you have to be able to provide so reporting up the chain. They may not care but they wanna know that you're doing something. They want to make sure that the tools you're building doing what you say they're doing so you have to perform some sort of metric and take them reports about you know. Here's what we stopped this last quarter. Here's what we know happened. Do they care. Probably not they probably care about money and pr right. They don't want to end up on the nightly news. You give them the confidence through your tooling that they're not going to end up on the nightly news. It's one of those cases where metrics are interesting for both managing up as well as managing down. What were you tracking with your team. When it came to this where you tracking. How many use cases we had. How often they fired. How did you manage this. I was tracking. How often they fired. How often the alerts that we built because we layered things we we always assumed that one layer of that was gonna fail. So if you built a preventative measure plan for the fact that someone could local exact anything in their tariff form right and make a change so be ready for that with alerts and the when the alert fails you go to remedial we tracked. How many alerts we had versus. How many actual remedial events. We had retract the type of infraction. That we were correcting so if someone built a dam workload are container workload in a region. That wasn't allowed. We would track that so that we knew the kind of threats that we were dealing with but more often than not. We were providing insights into. Here's the cis benchmark. Here's what we stopped. We are in compliance at all times. That was really what they wanted to see. Some of this sounds like it's a policy issue rather than even a weakness of on their ability or a threat like if i launch the in their own region. Eventually it made end up with privacy issues. Whatever but ultimately it's neither vulnerability in there a threat right that support issue. It might be into subtle all. That's the story. I think you're one hundred percent right and making sure that everybody in a massive organization understands what the policy is. That's a challenge so a lot of it was just learning on the fly in an organization and and making sure that people had the logs output to understand why they're machine suddenly disappeared right why they're storage suddenly disappeared. That was a fun time. Did you get particularly memorable emails. From people whose instances disappeared. Oh absolutely absolutely and and there's always the floods where something goes a little farther than it should have and get rid of stuff that they needed the testing important making sure that you're giving people the information so that they can build the right resources. How about three drag the elephants in the room into the site and say some of the stuff describing kind of points out that your team and tip teams around. You did not have this notorious security fear of automation like you mentioned. Something may have gone too far whatever but like we always hear stories from the nineties two thousands when somebody blocks yells lapdog and it was a coo during the presentation so the whole project was shut down like the whole domain of security was terminated. We hear those stories but apparently in the cloud things. Aren't that bad or maybe leave even aren't that way. So what about the cases where things went wrong how com automation survived those occurrences like what's different than the cloud. I think one of the biggest things is that recovery can be so rapid in the cloud. Where before there was such a massive process to correct any of the issues that you created at the worst you run into. The cloud is that you're going to have to redeploy an entire new project. And what is gonna take you from the perspective of infrastructures code. So i think there's less fear because of that. One of the things that people say about the cloud is that the landscape is huge. It's harder and harder to see everything but at the end of the day you're actually able to visualize your isolation your bbc project boundaries. So much easier in the cloud than you are in everyday life. so you can target specific instances. You can take things to a resource level for access and made sure that they are meeting. The requirements needed for special workgroups. The upside is that you get more benefit than you get. Negative sounds like also can automation to fix automation mistakes right. I've heard that. Maybe i was reading the lines. Absolutely you're one hundred percent right so you have to build a loop in one of those loose actually making sure that the functions that you're using to secure your account are always available so something gets deleted. Having a automated redeployment of that security function in the back end is really important. I like the thinking with loops. One of my favorite is john boyd. Who came up with middle loop so where you're going with us. One question i have gets back to people though is sounds like you had good people in actually know you had good people because i met some of your team. What advice would you have for somebody who wanted to get started with this. When they had fewer people fewer people dressed as much as you trusted your team check and double check. Obviously but i think investing in the training and the knowledge is something that a lot of organizations are probably avoiding right. Now i think the path is to speed to production and really what you lose with. That is being able to bring up a team. That understands these services in depth. So i i think training is really important. The other thing is give people a test environment and let them go because the other thing that's happening within cloud is we are so scared of minute mistake leading to a problem that we don't wanna face when really we should just is elite some boundaries and let people get into the cloud and go because that's the best way to learn. That's how i trained. My team just gave them access and said start playing with it and before long day were probably more competent than i was at the end of the day. This really interesting that the best way to learn is just by doing like that. Yeah well hey. We are. Just time so joe. Thank you so much for joining us. 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Sugar Addiction with Mike Collins

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Sugar Addiction with Mike Collins

"Hey everybody welcome to the addiction. Unlimited podcast where you get to learn everything you want to know about addiction and recovery. I'm your host. Angela pugh co founder of kansas city. Recovery life coach and recovering alcoholic to learn more about me. You can listen to episodes zero on your podcast app or find us on the web at addiction. Unlimited dot com. All right everybody. Let's take a minute and welcome. Mike collins to the show. He's the founder of sugar addiction. Dot com you guys know about mike personal struggles with sugar and food and all that good stuff. So let's welcome mike to the show and learn a little bit about him. Mike thanks so much for coming on and doing this with me. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. It's a it's an honor. Emma love talking to the recovery community. I'm a recovering guy myself so it sugar. Sugar just happens to be part of the process for me. Anyway anthony true. It's a part of it for most of us. I think so money. You take a minute. Just tell the audience a little bit about you. Exactly what it is that you do. Yeah i mean like i mentioned. I've been recovery from drugs and alcohol for thirty five years. But i kinda. My mom was a sugar junkie. She loved the stuff and she always had a stash was but in started. Realize that you know my friends a They were gaining weight. Really fast. they days clean twenty pounds later. And then it started to get worse with diabetes in that kind of stuff. So i started looking at it my early days recovery and kind of realize that our and probably caffeine was a for the other and When i look back on it in hindsight it was reversed. I used sugar. Worst than a junkie. Before i started drinking drugging and then afterwards i just returned to base. I didn't really drink or i didn't use that much. Sugar didn't have as much of the sweet tooth on his drinking. But afterwards it just came like avenge with a vengeance. I i started to into together. I audited a few food meetings. And i started to realize that in i started doing studies. Now we're going back thirty years. I've been sugar free for thirty years. But there wasn't any real like there is now research in that kind of stuff. So i started studying it and i took it in the abstinence from that stuff years to and then i went on to have a regular business career and life and kids and raise a couple of sugar free kids which is another story if you wanna talk about it but and then about ten years ago. I grabbed the domain. Sugar addiction dot com. And i started putting out really good information but nothing do people would take it and run with it but about three years ago. I want almost fulltime. And we started having groups and and support stuff and that's when the thing took off at us when folks it really was the magic just like any kind of peer support or support meetings. That's what turned the tide. So that's been doing since. Then where do you find. People's biggest struggle with sugar quitting sugar. Even i mean. I think we all understand like how we miss. Use it or just like emotional eating you know. I definitely fall into that trap. What do you see as people's biggest struggle in walking away from it. yeah no. it's great crushes a fair question in the. I think it's social in a large to a large degree. It's been inculturated so deeply and there's no ramifications to give it to a baby at one. There's no gil there's no worry you can give a child this product so people don't really grass it's changing now in the last four or five years with the research people just don't and they can't envision like people coming into recovery of any kind. They asked the big question. Do i have to do this for the rest of my life is absence one hundred percent business required to change my world around sugar and i don't know if you want me to answer that question scare off your audience but the bottom line is you have to look at it and i think what's happening now is they're giving they are beginning to give credence and people in dusty church basements in the food. Recovery meetings have known this antic totally for years now sciences. proving that some folks like some folks. That i mean i i know. I can't have one glass of wine. And i know i can't have just one coke either because i'm off on a run at that point so people are treating it more like a substance use disorder than a diet or lifestyle changes at health. Yeah it is fascinating. Because i think i think some of those professionally what we call process addictions right like drugs and substance addictions they have a physical component. Right when i stop it. I'm gonna have a withdrawal process addictions. Are you know sex. Gambling is ordered eating that kind of thing. And i think a lot of those sometimes to me they see much more challenging because your triggers are everyday life things right like. It's not a big deal for me to not have a drink alcohol. I can avoid alcohol if i want to by avoiding sugar is far more coal. Because it's kind of in in so many things and certainly food riots like me a challenge to have a diction where you were kind of forced to moderate. Like i would die if somebody tried to make me moderate hall sure. Oh yeah. there's a lot of evidence. Obviously you knew probably known. A lot of people have tried that and the main thing seventy five percent of the food system. The food boxes bags can cellophane whatever they all have. Seventy five percent of the stuff on the shelves has sugar in it which is an incredibly high number. When you think about it and so there is. I i would. I would prefer to say a way to to to split apart whole food that you get from the outside of the grocery store fruits vegetables meats seafoods dairy whatever then the stuff in the middle of the grocery store and that is the the how you stay away from it. That's how you obtain abstinence and sadly for a lot of folks in me in the early days you have to learn how to cook a little bit. You have to get can't just can't risk it at a restaurant it can't and once you get a little bit of absence you start to realize that you have to. There is an eternal vigilance to it. Like any other yes. It's much like alcohol too in that in the everywhere and just like you said that it being socially acceptable in so deeply ingrained in us as people i mean. Sugar is some of my earliest memories. You know like baking pies with my grandmother and things like that some of my earliest memories in my life like that you know for sure i mean my mom genuinely interesting story on thinking that i'd tell but i don't think it's different than a lot of folks. Her mother died when she was eight years old and my grandfather had moved in with her sister in order to make ends meet whenever but her cousin her cousin owned gross the country store across the way so he made this little deal that anytime. My mother came across the road and want something from the candidate. Just give it to her and he would put on her account his account mcgrath account. So my mother. She genuinely believed that sugar was loved for show for children for her cell and grain in her and That's how we bonded with like you say Making chai remember to the state chocolate chip oatmeal cookies. I mean just i remember. The bowl is gigantic. You know and so yeah. I mean that's and i think a lot of us grew up the exact same way interesting to back on. You know i was a kid in the seventies and starting my mom and my father about this actually not very long ago in. I said you know. It's so strange to me. When i think back when i was a kid because we didn't eat healthy. You know what i mean. Everything the beginning of every meal started with some sort of grease. You know razor crisco or something. I mean we were not helping eaters. But the auditing is that i did not know hardly any overweight people when i was a kid right. Nobody was overweight. We didn't have overweight kids at school. Like it just was. It was almost non-existent and it made me very curious. Like what has changed at this point where obesity is such a big issue especially in the united states. And i think because everything we eight. When i was a kid was made from scratch. Were no preservatives. Even though it wasn't healthy cooking or healthy food necessarily it was just brash. What they which is a whole new market now called organic food. No you're right. I mean it's the same with me. I mean there was only one or two overweight kids in the school and You know the the the exact timing seventies and eighties is when high fructose corn syrup started and you can grasp it. It's they run parallel up into the right up until the right. As far as the girls of High fructose corn syrup in the diet and obesity rates and it was so hidden and people didn't know it and you know it just went right to your liver and creates fat basically and it's just probably can't be processed toes can't be processed anywhere in the body but deliver doesn't like burnoff it doesn't be digested repeat out. It has to be processed to deliver and its function is to create fat. You know so the scientists proving it out now. But we didn't know that in the seventies and eighties and that's why it was able to run wild and get where is yeah. I know there's a lot of manipulation that goes into the food industry. Also thank yeah. Things are created to have a certain effect on you in a certain effect on your brain in. Cause you to want more crave more by more. I get really yours. Hated with all the manipulation. The world like i get tired of just like every commercial ic- big pharma tobacco like of them. Like i just get so tired of the manipulation. I get frustrated with it. Almost that spite for me helps me eat better. All you need to have a little adamy you know and as you want an enemy. Here's one so right now. They literally have food scientists on the other side big campuses of food scientists whose job who put you inside an mr machine people inside and see how the product whatever their product is is lighting. Up the nucleus accumbens the brain reward chemicals dopamine serotonin the same things that affect alcohol era. When any kind of other drug is affecting the nucleus accumbens in saratoga does receptors. They're trying to figure out how to you. Know how to make it and the big food was bought up by the sugar. Companies in the eighty reverse. The sugar companies. The food company brought up by the tobacco companies who are understood this addiction paradigm and in getting them early and you know children's cereals and it's just it's kind of sad and i'm not all the ilk of that i wanna start a war with those guys because i'm always been grassroots but yes there you have to realize who's on the other side of the fence trying to feed you and your kids. Yeah i mean it does help to to just make better choices right because i like to view everything kind from a brain standpoint and how to do it hundred percent with my brain so it's sustainable long term and really teaching myself long-term habits lifestyle change. Can you speak a little bit. on now. Where sugar hits those same receptors that is alcohol the same receptors as alcohol and drugs. Do and what. The effect of not inst- absolutely i mean. This is really the core of by were. This is what i try. Everybody comes to me. They wanted food plan and exercise plan. Like look there's like one online. There's a lot of that stuff is really. The based science is the dopamine receptors are called down regulators their standout meaning. You have less of them from over use and abuse of drugs and alcohol. Sugar metaphor fateh means whatever cocaine. And the you're getting this. Big dopamine hit the big dopamine rush from whatever in your ingesting and we take a little bit of heroin. We take a little bit alcohol. We take a little bit of cocaine but we are pounding. Twenty to thirty teaspoons a day through our body. Your brain is never getting a break. It's always hounding the dopamine and when it wears off you have another when he wears off yet another coun- all day probably since the womb. And then he got. Serotonin norepinephrine gaba. These are your reward. Chemicals in the science is now very very clear that these things are affected. And that's the reason you can't quit or stay. Stop is because this is a substance use disorder. You need to recover from just like any other drug addiction and you need to be very serious about it. So i mean i can go on wax on science for the whole time but suffice it to say that the science in the last five years is exploded in this real in this realm and that it's very very real and that sugar is is people. Get on me when i say as powerful. It's the dose. Makes the poison right. You're not you're keeping this activated day in and day out twenty four seven every waking hour. You're ingesting sugar in some way so you just never get that break. So it isn't neuro toxin a poison and we need to look at it like that. I i hate being the anti candyman. I hate being to change. Everybody's gotta change in entire culture for three hundred years that's been integrated with this from birth to death in every celebration but when you look at the science when you look at the reality of where we ended up then you have to make this conclusion and the people in recovery you in think have a little bit of a leg up right that they've already kind of passed through this process. But then you know. I've got people five ten fifteen twenty years sober that they just never put two and two together with the sugar so i have to kind of be a little bit more forceful whereby i think just like alcohol. It's i think conceptually it is really challenging to get to that place that because it seems overly dramatic right. When i think i could never have sugar again. It just seems insane right in the same way with alcohol when i started realizing it really had a hold on me and it was unhealthy. I remember staring at a drink in a glass in thinking. What the heck dude. It's a liquid glass. Like who said i can't control it in conceptually. That's really challenging to grasp that thought but i think as you get deeper deeper into it in. It's also different. Because i think most of us have certain things that we can walk away from pretty easily and then you'll have a thing or two. That is just so difficult. You can't quite grasp it To the other side exactly and that's what it is. We started talking about at the beginning of stat inculturation for three hundred years. It's like it's just weaved into the fabric of society and what we didn't put into together as we came through it. Is that a lot of diseases. Mental and physical are caused by people have just relegated to aging. They think that because this is our society's how we move through our society that that we're going to age square. we're going to become sinoe. We're gonna diabetes. We're gonna get dementia. We're going to get all our eyes are going to go bad all of this kind of stuff and it's just not true it really literally just not true in a lot of cases and they're right now so much science reversal of diabetes just by diet literally eyesight get better skin getting better brain find getting better weight of course look. I don't even hardly even talk about weight. But that's just Beautiful byproduct of it. yeah. I read somewhere longtime ago. I don't even remember what. Why is this one phrase just always stood out to me. It said sugar feeds cancer in. I love you mentioned. The guy's name is louis canley okay. It doesn't work at corner now. He has a lab at cornell. Like the can't lab at cornell right and he's been on three of my summit so it's quit sugar summits right. I interviewed all the biggest guys in the world right. And he's like. Can you say that again. Dr kelly i need it for sound Sugar causes cancer. Michael sugar causes it one more time to get this out. Sugar causes can't right so it's not me not me just experiencing it with people in in whatever it's cornell harvard. These guys are telling me they. That's true what you said is absolutely true. That's a great thing to keep top of mind when i catch myself wanting to slide back into the trap of sugar. It's quite a journey. You know really figuring it all out and figuring out how it sits in your lifestyle in just like you're saying i think it's so similar to alcohol again in that way our that it so woven into our society in everything that we do in it. Is this form of connection in bonding. I mean it's every day. And i watch my mom with my niece and nephew who are little biddy in as soon as they walk in the house. It's just immediately to cookies. You want some nat. I'm like stop with the sugar. Create little sugar bowl rusher law but sugar is love. it's so true in we view alcohols. so much. The same way it is it's connection in bonding and camaraderie and fun and mony cells ceremony. It's all ingrain ceremonial process. That it makes you feel the event feel a little bit more elevated right. It's like you're less stress you get with the family. There's a little bit sometimes. I don't know what your there. There's a little bit of stress and sheffield a little bit better a little bit more lax. It's i really believe it's a perfect anti-stress drug problem is is that it turns on you at some point. And then you're just trying to fight off withdrawals like any drug. Yeah yup for sure and this is something noticed too in my own journey right with all foods but a lot sugar once. I eat some right. That as we say in twelve step world the phenomenon of craving kicks in that is a very powerful tool for me. Also because i think about i had this shift in mindset around this a couple of years ago now in that in recognizing how sugar makes me feel after right kind of aftermath and immediately makes me tire i mean within twenty minutes. I need to go lay down nap. You know it just drains. My energy usually have you. Gill will kick in at some point later that day and it kinda messes with my mood. You know sugar makes me sad. Absolutely so i think about that stuff right when i think. Oh because i love gummy everything. Ice cream in gummy candy are like my nemesis. I'll think start rationalizing in my head all the reasons. It's okay to get a bag of gummy bears in stop and go. Okay wait a minute. How's this going to be the rest of the day. Like i don't have time to feel bad. I don't have time for it out. wait you know. But that's a really good a really good deterrent often. Times in thinking about the mood part of it and that craving heart. It's just not worth it. You know it gets just not worth it to even start. Maybe you're doing the whole recovery thing you know. Think it all the way through to the end. And i am the exact same reaction like in the last thirty years. I've had probably ten fifteen accidental stations. Meaning like somebody's swore. There's no sugar in the salad dressing. Or whatever and i'm like when it happens. I had this like to martini buzz. Like i'm like lit up like a christmas tree. The better than ever and i learned to go with that twenty or thirty minutes right because i know what's company which is at the end of that. Neil i'm still going to be starving. I'm gonna be hungry at the end of the beautiful neil with this whenever beautiful conversation then i'm going to start drought not before i on the way home. Maybe in the car. And then the next day i'm gonna be blue. It'd be set remedy to nap later. But it's at lunchtime. You know what i mean. It's like the exact processes you describe. I go through exactly and sad thing is true one hundred percent and that's really need now. Here's the thing and this is important is important in the recovery is important. In the withdraws its weren't in the process is that it's not you. It's not your mental state it's actually a physical manifestation of a pounding of the dopamine. So you're getting a over exaggerated release of dopamine and serotonin northern every gaba. Your brain chemicals are just pounded manually. Manually physically didn't go for a walk. It didn't have sex. You didn't have a hog it. In not yoga. You counted them manually with a substance and you push them all out and you you overdose basically and then all of a sudden you don't have them to be even and so now you gotta you gotta wait till they almost catch up again. You know you gotta get a good night's sleep you gotta hydrate you gotta get some good food and sometimes it takes twenty four hours. And that's if you're very healthy if you come in to sugar recovery with like a big bad ass habit. You're like that for weeks. You're not feeling good. You're depressed for weeks. It takes a while to get back. It's like pause. I'm sure you've heard of injury talked about it. It is a true post acute withdrawal symptom of sugar and caffeine that lasts for sometimes longer than thirty or sixty days. It takes a while to come back. It's an adonia just like we talk about under percent okay. I was just being dramatic. No no people think it's guilt. They think that it's there they didn't. They weren't strong enough. They weren't successful especially people that don't have a recovery background like they're like all i screw up by. I can't stay absent. I can't stay off the flower and they actually think that that feeling you got is guilt. Like they're guilty. But it's not it's a an actual physical downturn because you just push manually all of your feel good and you felt good pretty good in the good of sugar is not like a high cocaine or you know whatever it's like you're just feel right with the world for a little bit for thirty minutes right and whatever you're doing is better the little relation you know your your your lunch or your whatever it is. You're doing just this. And then all of a sudden it starts to go downhill really fast stamp and i was still. I don't have so much. I've the guilt at this stage of the game. Because i've been working on my whole foods staying in general for a long time and now i'm disciplined enough that if i do have something sugar like i'm pretty okay with it you know and i'm i'm pretty good with my rules in managing that so side to have it. It's a big thought process. And i give myself that permission so i don't have a ton of that now if i go crazy in have some to three four days in a row then i will definitely start to have that gil like. Oh my gosh what is happening with the hecker you doing you win there. This is how you wanna feels not wanna be an after. Go through that star the. Yeah it's just been. It's been an incredible journey. And i see people in my facebook group. All the time commenting about you know going to twelve step meetings in there always being donuts and cookies every once in awhile somebody pop in and be like. I'm three days sober in. What the heck is going on with all his craving for sugar sugar eating sugar. And i'm like well that's the least your worries right now. Just get through the alcohol part and be okay. It's a it's a it's a. it's a step down substance. Used as i call. You know to harm reduction i mean. I'm sure you're familiar with harm reduction. It really is and it's twice in the big book in sugar is a good substitute right at. It is and that's what people turn to. But then that'll turn on you right and the same thing exactly the process that you're describing for yourself personally is what we advocate in a way. It would be nice if they walk. Everyone walked in and never had sugar again. That's not realistic right. And so. I was an abstinence based guy for my whole recovery until the opioid crisis came along and i realized he had to be frigging alive to recover so i loosened up on. Suboxone this kind of thing and the same thing here. Look you gone through however many years you've been thinking about it seriously and you've had whatever but you've healed each time so you've had you practice harm reduction in your in your in your pursuit to be healthier mentally physically and there's nothing wrong with that i think that's it's evolving for me in our were that that may need to beat to happen in order to bring this to a larger audience. Because no i get a lot of pushback even from recovery people that one hundred percent absence is a possibility in their life in the early days. Right but what is the goal of harm reduction right. The goal of harm reduction eventual absence. If you can get there if you wanna get that right and so. That's kind of the trajectory that we're taking and it's it's okay and we have to be the ones who give that permission because people tried this one hundred percents at don't word. It's it's just too hard in society physically. Whatever in their family. Law oftentimes the only person in the family. Who's going on this venture and sometimes you know most of its strangely enough women because they're probably smarter but they know they're cooking and they're buying for the kids and the husband and the husband's not born kids aren't on board so there it's a little kind of lonely situation if you don't have support without on. Yeah so often in even in extended family you know. I mean it's not like you're gonna all of a sudden have a sugar free christmas in everybody's gonna show up free party. Nobody show alcohol-free when nobody showed it is so yeah it is hard it is a journey. I know wanting. That has helped me a lot in since. I've been sober for alcohol right in in struggling with all the other addictions because i have most of them just two of us figuring them all out. I know it has really helped is once. I shifted my intent. Right wants everything wasn't about. Losing weight are all about how i looked. When my intent shifted to really being a healthier human and wanting to be better to my body and and make a true lifestyle change for the long term it was although short term goals. Reiten shifted my perspective in my mindset in a way the did just completely different than it has ever been before now i like it. I like it and it's it's wise. You know. I think that you know as it related to sugar instead like the addiction to dieting. It's like this is not a short term. Fix game can't fix it in the short term. And you have to have your eye on the long term so i agree because i want it to be sustainable. You know nothing is worse than the yoyo saying. I don't wanna be trapped in a yoyo saying anything in my life right like i want to be able to conquer things in milan to the next thing instead of just being constantly up and down in stuck in that discomfort in. That's really what it is. my listeners. Laugh at me. Because i talk about intrinsically really lazy and i do a lot of stock in -ccomplish a lot in a day but intrinsically i'm lazy person in. I do not have the energy to be uncomfortable all the damn time when i have an issue i got to figure out the solution to move on because i just don't to lazy to be unhappy can recommend a couple of things one. You should listen to a podcast. It's gonna sunset but there's a lot episode called the joy of procrastination s nation very simply says that if you're feeling lazy fascinating about the recovery world you hear a lot in marijuana uses this A motivational syndrome and sugar literally causes a motivational syndrome. And they talk about it but hasn't really doesn't get much press even in the marijuana world anymore but the sugar definitely causes a motivational syndrome. Because you can get the benefits of a walk. You could get the benefits of a run or a yoga class by just eating something you can get the dopamine push the then. You don't have a motivation. Do you know you can't get up off the couch. So it really is a i would worry about it being in about being intrinsically 'cause i understand and it makes perfect sense to me and one of the things i like to say. This is a little off topic but as human beings as animals as mammals. We have three six that is food sacks and conservation of energy right conservation of energy is like the one of the main tenants of any animal in the animal kingdom right and this work ethic is something that was some learn as probably a process eviction of some sort like we're fiction work addiction right. It's probably some like it is. It's a human construct that is not like akin to our act. And i think maybe what is happening is you are becoming more in tune with the person you were supposed to be than the person that society was trying to make you. Just my two cents. Yeah it's interesting. Well you know. Because i get really mad at being like the dishwasher and another one by listeners. Love to tease me about. Because i hate that damn dishwasher because goes away all go away and that's my little laziness right because restrated dayton's like angela. Four minutes do just do. It is so knob deal but i get so mad about him because i just don't want to. We're on the same page with that one on the same page of that one. I and i have learned that the discipline of almost canada's then like chop wood carry water thing. You get more freedom when you when you like. Lean into those small disciplines. It's weird but i blew me on the worst at that. that's only intellectual. I don't have that emotionally yet. That's only from reading. I if i can tell you. I was practicing. Be a different story. I still hate the dishwasher. It is fantastic at love what you just said about the freedom of it because it's so true just like the freedom of sobriety right if i wouldn't have ideas how much easier it wise to just drink. I would a hundred years earlier right. I had no idea how much more symbol my life would be calm. And in how drama. Free right. Because then i got to learn how to make better choices and pick people better to be in my life and yeah you just. It gets very drama free in really nice. Now it's so true. It's that one thing. Absence changes a lot. And it's the same those all those little disciplines. Whatever they are said tell us a little bit about sugar addiction dot com in what happens there. Sugar addiction dot com really is a community more than anything we do have information and we have challenges and quizzes and all that kind of good stuff but you know we have facebook groups and we have all that kind of stuff and it's about early adopters. If you call canaries in the coal mine people who are interested in would be still listening at this point hundred. Podcast like this. They're interested in possibly joining a crowd of people who have kinda decided. At least i call it a scratch test. And it's like you know if you went to the allergist scratch paper pollen ragweed Well you're doing your own scratch test by giving yourself a your adulting into ninety days of sugar free. Just check it out and then if you want to go back if you go back just do one thing at a time like split test one thing at a time. Just try some monk fruit or try some whatever some coconut flour. Whatever it is but it's the process where you're not alone. You've got people that are doing it with you. They understand that you've decided this to for your life. Whatever maybe it's wait. Maybe it's brain house. diabetes whenever and as i said i gave away the best information on the planet for seven years and a few people took it and ran with it but three years ago we started doing groups and meetings and all that kind of stuff and had built a culture around people who don't use sugar. They're not normally in their family. They're not normally in their community so they gotta do it online. So that's that's pretty much the nutshell. I love that scared again. Staff and sugar addiction dot com. Can't people find your facebook group by the same name. If they go on facebook in search we have a page for sugar addiction Do there in we come up. I on google Not gula loss but facebook for sure back if you type it in in sugar addiction Detox you in. I will link that in the show notes for everybody to say you know how to find my. We're going to do some fun stuff together in early. Twenty twenty one. I'm going to jump in one of these challenges in check it out. Make that commitment. That's awesome french my listeners. To do it with me so it will be fun. We're gonna finalize those details nice. The challenges fondants thirty days of me coming into your inbox with a little reminder. And then you're obviously there's an elevated platform. Obviously you've got zoom meetings and Private forums in on facebook that kind kind of stuff so and people just they just think they they all the surveys and everything. They needed to the accountability. They needed the support. They needed the comradery. And that's what turned the tide zone. Well mike thank you so much for coming on here doing this with me a minute. Ask my last question. Favorite question. eminent shifted for you. Wait is your favorite thing about being a sugar free person. Oh what a great question. I never got that one before it is the is. The mental freedom is actually. Is the mental clarity if you will. One of the main ingredients is the Were the main benefits. Is the your brain fog clears up. And i watched my mom die. Alzheimer's my father too. But my mother like a real sugar junkie. And i watched the ending years. And i've seen all the research and studied all rain guys and by accident. Our little summit this coming up is turning into this brain science even all the hardest coaches are talking about it right. The heart s coaches santos my brain. Anyway i just. I i have all my fun in my brain. I don't know if that makes sense. But i just love to play with ideas. I love to play. I like to talk to smart people like you and people on the summit and stuff and so i. My mother was a brilliant woman and to watch her like deteriorated. That way to know. Now that there may be a correlation. I'd just want to take that risk. You know it wasn't way it wasn't how it wasn't diabetes. It was mental clarity so and brain health. So that's what i like her. 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"The underdog is how. The Stanford, Steve and the. A home team getting points. What's better than that? We're here the four numbered hoosiers when he said how many passes? Four. What the tape measure say? I believe you'll find the exact same measurements fackler Jim in hickory. We're here. We're going to be there. Come to find out well of us, own tease. Can't wait to get there. Never been to Minneapolis. We'll talk me apple. We'll talk bears to do list. When he gets to Gusta was we'll do some Augusta her ops. We're not gonna be. That will give you an idea what outnumbers on we're not crunching storing them against the wall. But we got the four hair bear, Minneapolis. It's Texas Tech. It's Michigan state. It's Virginia and its Auburn. And I know the traditionalist people have been talking about it all week, you know, they wanted they wanted Calipari. I yeah, I'm a Duke fan, and I got no issues here man these four teams or so deserving because they played their best when they needed to play their best. And it's awesome. I can't wait to see how the games fallout, but that elite. I'm still hurt from through money line. Sorry rub. It in absolute are you with me that the that the money line was the worst beat than with the spread? With the spread you saw common in to. You knew you knew you were on the money. Lau was they had the game one. You couldn't grab that. And as I said, I thought watching it live the tiger room tried to miss the free throw on purpose because that was the play because it was executed perfectly this out play shot. It was perfect like unbelievable that they pulled it off. It's like a movie script and the Mitzi. I just kinda short arm, and he got the exact you wanna want it. How you been trying to do? Amazing. Absolutely amazing. But but you're right. The heads of play by Clark to get it believable pass. Almost just perfect be able to turn shoot all one motion in my man Mamadee Dell the presence who just got to get rid of it. Yup. Catch catching tro and go back, and look and you look at Clark like he made a decision. You know, who do you think you wanna get to Jerome? You wanna get to guy they're covered and he saw. The ball progress. Look. But I mean, I just blatantly brutally sad for for produce everybody that wants to pile on Klein about the free throw like, hey, they're not even near this game. If it's not for that kid, so get off and unbelievable gaming. Tennessee sickening. Ridiculous. Carson was great. But I mentioned though, all for talk about redemption. All four teams have a kind of a redemption type storyline Virginia from last year. The embarrassment of being the first team ever lose to sixteen Michigan state being bounced in the first weekend. The previous three years twice by double digit seed, Texas Tech unranked in the preseason to now your top ten year three seed, embarrassing loss in the first game of big tournament West Virginia, which I think caused me to unrest underestimate them quite a bit. And then Auburn with Ruth Pearl everything that he is been through with all the allegations against him. And what he had to Tennessee a whole lot whole lot of redemption here this before it's good for four fresh stories. Awesome. I for junior has a chance to be the best redemption story in college sports in a long long time, and because of their the way they handled it last year, and I know people are if you're sick and tired, I'm sorry, because I it's awesome. And it needs to be talked about more because all the thing about how long they're year was with all the social media with just just not not right? And they've used as fuel, and you know, I found it interesting that book and for van pelt show. We got three of the four final four coaches on the show, Tuesday and Wednesday and Virginia I reach out immediately. They're they're staff just says respectfully decline, we will do whatever you want after the season. They are. I like the way that approach they were like that entering the tournaments. Well, yes. So with that, let's get into it. Are you surprised Virginia's not the Nike? I am. No, I think I think the the webbing the way CBS views it, I think Michigan state is the biggest name the biggest probable market fan base. And then you got Texas Tech. I think they think they can tap into a little bit of the Dallas some of those cracks is television market. I think I think that's probably and it's a little bit of a closest Fred? So that's probably what they're looking at. I think they look at those things. No. We're we're giving CBS too much credit. I'm sure. So the Virginia is I like I said, we'll be there are you courtside? Or are you in a truck? I am courtside with I'm with court courtside with Sean McDonough and dick vitelle. Wow. You say Lister, and we'll get to what you're doing. Did you not remember my wonderful appearance last year? Forget nearly getting she over by the the the player in the ball game. That's I do not your vegetable maybe that'll be one shining moment. All right, Virginia, minus five and a half one thirty and a half tip off six. Oh, nine PM eastern. We'll be there at central central. Always screws me up there. I gotta I gotta I gotta get custom to that. I'll vegas. My watch. Never switched over. I wanna be our broke, by the way thrill. So I'm watching with right now. I I said this daily wager yesterday you were on with us in Doug. They'll never admit it. I think Virginia likes this matchup. They know they probably haven't played as hectic a style. I'm not going through their schedule right now. But like just thinking ACC no-one plays like Pearl does in his tires navy amped up the chaos in their style. Play. I think just running people around the perimeter. Thought it was amazing. How hero just was out of the game? I know Kalbarri made a point to get the ball, the Washington, but hero was just I mean, just watch them standstill for so much of the game. And then once offering gets rolling man new you knew in their data staff when Auburn wasn't hitting shots, and there's hang my hat. Where's the half time line? Give it to me. No, you knew it. I still thought that Kentucky at another gear. I did. I I wasn't there at halftime. But once the ten minute, Mark. And I was like holy like, it's it's happening. Harper is the key. And we're going back to this Virginia thing, I think they like it because they have a guy that could. If as tough a guard as Harper can have because he is lightning with the ball. And then those last ten minutes and overtime. He was a man amongst boys against Kentucky. But I think Clark is a guy that can bother him a little bit and not let him go as fast as he and coach for a long ago. Does that make sense does make total sense? Okay. So from that standpoint, I think Jimmy likes what they have on defense against Auburn offense. And I think they're disciplined on offense to get what they want against Ombersley defense. Now, I I mentioned this yesterday on the show as well that I think another reason Virginia likes this matchup is because the unfortunate injury KiKi. I think he's a big deal on the defensive end. He's a big deal and helping out rebounding and we saw the key to the produce game Virginia where the offense of rebound with seventeen or eighteen. I think it was in the game. And obviously the big tip on the free throw. I think his president of lack thereof is a is a big problem for for Auburn trying to generate second chance points off of those long MRs on the numerous threes at they're going be be putting a basic if for Jinya defends the way they did throughout the course of the entire season. Aubert's can be getting many open look amazing in the turnament open looks allburn Satan like sixty seven percent of their threes. It's like nearly automatic Purdue. I mean, granted Klein and Carson Edward efforts were throwing shots up from places that you don't normally shoot Purdue shot over that over their defense and made up Nate some shots and if Harper and those guys can get hot. And then we'll see if. Maybe they can they can hang around this one for a while. I found it very interesting in our coaches interviews. I'll talk about crispier is oh when we do that game. But Pearl admitted last it's like, I know Virginia's gonna dictate to temple now. He he's pretty good at. Not tell the truth and interviews in blow the opponent up. So I thought that like, you know, he came out and said that which is very very interesting to me because I he's he's a mastermind, man. He is he's unbelievable. What he does. He it getting to it. I don't think he believes it. I think he has enough factors in their Harper. You mentioned the other guys that he can do some things to to hurry. The game up if you will. And I think he's going to have to the obviously the more possessions. The better the better chance, I think Auburn has this game. Couldn't agree more. I it's interesting because I you talked about Bruce in saying thing he gets his teams to respond in play. Well in these types of games when they're on. Yulia lose. Okay. You be Kentucky your hundred audience Carolina. You blow him out? He's been an underdog nine times in the Charterhouse head coach seventy two against the number five outright wings, and to gut wrenching glass. Second one point losses. I mean, he gets his teams to to rise up and play well in situations that. The experts so to say do necessarily think that they had much of a chance with that being said I after elite eight I can't give points. I'm I'm looking at like the first half here. I'm not sure like I don't like a side in that game. I was looking at what we kick around the first half last night and a half. It seems kind of high. It seems like it's an under type. I I just I keep thinking these backdrops bear and sixty sixty and a half I would lean on their they're both teams going to get into the thirty. That's I don't I don't see it. I don't see in. And it's crazy when to me when Auburn when you slow Auburn down, and they don't get those Transocean buckets. They even play smaller because then Harper just runs it down and just plays that high ball screen action. So that shock locks down eight before you know, it. So that I I'd lean under first half there. If I had a play in the game the issue is how if Aubert's trailing they're not gonna stop following at the end. So that over is that I would lean over there. That's a good point. If I we talked about Virginia and the redemption in the path and you still look at their road here. They still haven't played a great. They had a great comeback made a great play in a great game against Purdue. And they played well in that game, but Gardner Webb trail big early come back and win Oklahoma. They've really ever really felt like they were gonna lose kind of just a whole home type team Oregon very easily could have won that game. Comfortable cover for the duck seen tire way. In the produce game where? They came back. They made the play they want while I don't necessarily feel like I wanna lay points. Almost just get the sense that Virginia's finally gonna play the type of in like a short little tournament. Now that they're in. I think they can apply like the regular season the way they approach game to game. I think they can kind of take that mentality now where okay, it's like a it's like a Thursday Saturday deal or Sunday in the where you get your day off. And you got two games they approach it. And maybe this little to still be comfortable, and they'll play a one of the better games at the they saw while I it while I hate land points had to play the game of side. I would lay the points with Virginia. I do think one of the the props to look at here for the game Deandra, hunters point prompts, fourteen and a half. He had a terrible ofensive game began to prove a big free throws. He did make the big free thousand played really well defense, but I fourteen I I would think you will show up in this game. Okay. And go over that fourteen and a half one thing. I will point out. I try and do this all the time and underdog, and I remember talking to you about it at the west gate super book on on the second data tournament is I always try looking at it. We've talked about underdogs all the time. If how much different of a game is if the favorite is leading. Or if the underdogs leading Virginia does not wanna trail in this game. I think they have to play from a head against Auburn. Because then Auburn can really turn it on if they have the lead. So if you're if you're playing all this is something, you know, maybe live betting in game, or whatever I think it's very critical that Virginia plays with the lead in this game. Because you saw frantic got with Purdue. You know, I mean, they were it was that close to Boston. And that's really haven't done for much of the moment bar throw the first round. This is a different. All absolutely. And when that's swoon comes man. You don't even know. What's happened Harper's by its left? It's kickout threes. It's it could get it could get ugly. Now. I know it's the final four. I know it's Virginia. And I know that the best defense team the cross the board. I'm just saying take before you go all in on just just take a second. And think about you know, what this game might look like if the underdog was was leaving. That's all right. And you mentioned the underdogs out. You've got to teams in this final four that one their Sweet Sixteen and elite games. Both as an underdog. Texas Tech was a dog. Yeah. They're games. One. Auburn was a dog while they're games one. If you go back and look there have been seven seven top-five seeds that have won their Sweet Sixteen and elite eight games as dog. And then we're an underdog to a top four seed in the final four the seventeenth one in six outright two and five against the number. Kansas ninety one was dog when they beat UNC rethought. We're going to get the the after the the big upset we thought we were gonna get UNC. And Duke got dean got thrown out Cantu. So a lot of times people might think oh the under their here. Now, they're they're playing. Well, they're gonna continue continue the trend only one of them has got onto one the the semifinal game. So is it a total handicapping tool for this weekend? No. But it's just a cool little historical note to think about when you're when I look at the games. All right next game. I don't have as much on. I just wanna sit back and watch this one. I'm hoping a nice Virginia writer or an Auburn writer will go to the back and write about Monday night's game. And I could steal their see press row right up front. Maybe next to you for this for the nightcap. Michigan state right now, two and a half point favorite Texas Tech one thirty two and a half the up and down I would lean under nece game. But like I said these are two of the most resilient teams. I think in the tournament when I say, I think more about fearless and just being tough. And I thought really interesting crispier d- told us last night. He knows he told his team. They're not gonna out tough Michigan state, which I found really really interesting and a little psychological ploy, though. No, no, I tell me. When they can't they won't. But I also think that's also a geared. Maybe like everyone has this. Michigan state slowdown field. The reason they beat Duke is because they up to temple records. I back down the court every time in the first half. So I this is the same thing. One thirty two bowl teams. What's that sixty five each? I'm gonna math. Yes. I sixty seven sixty five Saul what Texas Tech and Michigan look like. That was hard to walk right now catches Winston's, a totally different totally different animal as much as good as Simpson is I'll take catches Winston reading defenses in passing the ball and getting into what his team should get into over probably any point guard in the country. I still think teams are going to buckle down three points made is going to be huge in this game. But I think with these teams are going to be so much more contested than each team is is used to playing against. I would lead under the total in this game. And. I could see the problem is I could see both these teams cutting nets down Monday night. It's just so hard to pick this that that's the great thing about getting back to what we started on saying with these fourteen. I mean, I'm sure you go back and look but off the top of the top of my head like this is the first time in a in a bit few years that you could see any one of these four teams win, and you wouldn't be shock. Would you be surprised? Maybe if Auburn won maybe might be surprised, but you wouldn't be shocked if any last year Villanova was. Tails above everybody year before that you knew it was either going to be North Carolina Gonzaga the year before that you North Carolina Dylan over the two best teams for first time in a while. I think is a real bit of intrigue as to what any one of these teams can win. I think that's probably what makes it great three balls mates. That's all I can think of this fourteen and a half over under. That's addle. It seems like a lot. Yeah. I was your say whoever wins that whoever has more wins the game. I think I think the games that tight. When I look at these other thing is free throw shooting. Michigan state his missed a lot of free throws a lot of times this year. So those are two factors, and I just don't know which way they're going to go because the both teams are both coaches are so darn good. So I on ously I just wanna sit back and watch his game. I honest I've zero interest in having money on the game. Yeah. I I like I like a coward saying that. No, you don't think it because all you'll like it. I'm here for the people are going to want to hear they want infancy give you crap, but you're giving a lean on subsides things. And thanks for three points. We got you all because of the game going on doesn't mean he plant. But I don't like really the the side either. Again, I guess I just don't have a grasp on what I guess if I if you had to play a side, I might lean Michigan state because I I mean, Texas Tech because I do think beard will figure out a way to limit Winston as a score in maybe make someone else do the scoring weather. It's Henry whether it's it's mcquaid whether anyone I think someone else is going to have to score because I do think beer will figure out a way to make Winston more of a distributor of the basketball's. It's because so far is it was done. An unbelievable job. Get having Winston be both. He's put him in situations where they've needed a basket where he is the go-to guys posted this tribute. He's been he's been great. If I if I had to make one play on this game. I think it would be the the largest lead proper twelve and a half. I don't see either one of these two teams getting away from the what is it? It's twelve and a half, largely not I I don't I don't think anybody lead by thirteen in this. What I would be. I would be surprised I wouldn't be shocked by anybody any of these fourteen one. I'd be I'd be shocked at this turned into a blow out one way or another very interested to see what is does to attack Odio, and and three Collins it was really evident. He was not fearful of Zion on defense. And they continue went at him. Put him in ball screens, put them in high pick and low pick and rolls. And at the end the game on the line sets up going for for three ball knowing that that that's gonna be sagging down low. This is a totally for matchup for Odio, see and Owens after facing Clark in hachi Mira, you know, their it's way more physical this time around. But I think beard have them. I'm ready for that. If that makes any sense, they're not gonna have to cover as much ground as they did against because Aggie gonna push way. More spread out way. More michigan. Michigan state. I mean, you saw war just early on back in back down and missed a couple of huge bunnies against Duke. So those three bigs against Texas. Tech's two bigs. I think is the game three points mate. Anything else on the game who plays Monday night? Let's give the people that I'll say Virginia, Texas Tech. I I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Virginia because I have to I'm gonna go. I'm gonna I'm gonna take Michigan state. I just cash. We'll say really is. Let's get to some masters props. Sure. After this. Geico presents yet another voicemail from your roommate? About the kitchen turns out when there's a grease fire. You're not supposed to throw water on it wouldn't own right anyways. The fire department is here, and it's totally cool can call back when you get a chance. 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And you know, you're just getting those chicken sandwiches ex-allies chase. Snap fingers. Well, see here. Here's the great thing. The new media center. Oh, unbelievable. Like a sports book. It's unbelievable gore. It's gorgeous. I might just like if I ever get kicked out of my house. I might just ask if I can like just stay there. Beautiful, but the the walk. To our television studio on the driving range you've got to go through the media center. So you just kind of go in there. And I'm like once once I'm at the TV compound from basically. We're on early. Sportscenter some world hawk. We're talking about six thirty seven in the morning before the for sports, Tom there until I leave for Butler like to okay? So it's you load up excelled sandwich. All right chicken sandwich, load up. Some some water is for the for the for the day. And we're good. You're good bunker down. All right. So I mean, it's our first gas. We got numbers out there. I know the bunch of numbers changed since you know, I heard mitchum Pauley on talking about you know, how different the numbers have how much changing. I heard west Reynolds talk in the day. Whoa. What's the bear? I mean, we gotta we gotta dot com. Com. Coming next week. Right. I would think so. All right. So let's go. Gimme gimme. Gimme gimme two guys in the seventy five to one hundred and fifty to one range Yanni why why played one guy at one hundred one at the time that I played him. He's no longer one hundred perfect. I played Cameron Smith. All right. Everybody lasts. Everybody think last year remembers what Jordan speak did on Sunday. But I think they fail. A remember the camera? Smith also shut sixty six all finished fifth. He is a great Potter. He's got a couple of top five finishes in majors on his lady has a belief in six at the recent WGC in Mexico. You played well out west in California. Which is a good compromise. Course if he can put the ball on the green and just eliminate big numbers. He if he's green regulation. He's not. He's not gonna make me make a lot of birdies. But he he'll he'll make part worth. I think he'll be in this. Guinea win. We'll find out at eighty at one hundred one when I got him in a couple of couple of weeks back. I'm certainly willing to take shots. Okay. So there's one there's one in the big radio. Already two fifty to one. Well, I if you're looking for another mega longshot as I'm looking here. In crazy ridiculous. Maybe Matthew Fitzpatrick wouldn't be the worst play at one hundred to one that's Patrick if you're looking for someone like seventy five whatever. But there is another guy out there right now at sixty to one who I did play, and that's Patrick Canley. Okay. My dad's pick as well. I think he copied me. I got a question for you who do you like out of the former champions here? Out of the former masters champion. Bob. Okay. I'm my sight and on my sights a little crooked might be some local national. You know what? I mean. I Bubba just saw twenty seven to one. Yeah. I actually got him thirty two one last week when we were out there. Patrick read thirty five to one Patrick read. I would consider if you've got. Yes, no props on top twenty. Yes. No props to miss the cut. I might consider taking the no no top twenty and Patrick's batch agreed to miss the cut. A little interesting nugget given the last seven rounds by the defending masters champion have all been over par including so you're looking at the final three rounds from speak the year that he blew up and will at one then when willow was reigning champion. He missed the cut to terrible around and then Sergio last year too terrible rounds and prior to winning last year. It wasn't like Patrick read at a great masters track record. He had some unbelievable putting last year, which I think it's really really unsustainable. So Patrick meat. I read it. The price. You might get for him to finish outside the top twenty or to miss the cut and might be worth a look. Okay. All right. So you don't like read as a former champion the defending champion. He'll be putting the jacket on the shares. What else I think speed is going to be the most bet guy the agree hard? I'm like he's on my sixty to one I heard twenty to one he's twenty to one that's all based off his finishes there. But I think what about how he's blessed. Ball striking what and his putting even worse. Seriously. This is going to be great conversation. I can't wait to talk to the Scot Doddie Curtis next week about it like how what are you approaching? We what do you expect to see Jordan beat next week? The guy who has been unbelievable to Gusta or the guy in his last eight stroke play events it reads, cut fifty four th fifty I forty fifth thirty fifth cut cut fifty fifth that since strokeplay vets I'll stay away it's been brutal. I mean, he won the worst on in terms of their two hundred fifteen guys qualified statistically, he is two hundred and thirteenth driving. Accuracy. It's brutal. Well, that sounds like like, I kept stats in Connecticut. Be me. On the fairways you and me at rock ledge nother ball other ball. But that's the thing. If you like it, if you're saying re- what how he's done this year base. Throwing all be and stuff, right, Dan. I don't care how he's playing how he looks. He's twenty something to one and he's won this thing. And what's any north gonna say when you say it what about speed anti twenty one? I would say. Jordan right now is really struggling. He used to be the guy that if I needed someone to make a big pot on Sunday to win a major it would be Jordan speak. But but his game right now. He's not inform. He's not striking the ball. While out the T. He's missed a lot of those plots that he normally makes I don't think Jordan Spiegel when another when another masters this weekend. All right. All right. So with that give me your top picks, Jon Rahm, I love John love robber. I think Rahm Romney's could have won two majors last year. He had a seventy five seventy five in the first round last year in the masters. You take know the tournaments four and long. But if you look at Friday Saturday Sunday, he was two shots better than anybody in the field and that included when he realizing needed to go for it. Go for the eagle on the back nine and went in the water. Didn't made a number there. So look he eased. He reminds me right now of where kept a was the year before he finally broke through and won the US open. He was there contended didn't quite get there. And I think now is when he burst on the scene. A couple of years back in its first master no masters rookie is going to win. That's just not a good situation. Last year was a second go round he was in. And I think now he realizes what it takes to win. I think he's gonna put four great rounds. Together. I think this course is teller made his game. I think he's going to destroy the par fives. And I think he's gonna win. I got him at twenty two one a month or so ago. All right. No longer twenty two one at the sixteen. It west right now if you can find Rahm somewhere better than sixteen. I would take a shot. He's my he is definitely my top pick. And and I think Rory I mean, you can't play them to win it six two one seven one eight twenty just can't I think you're better value is probably just to take whatever money if you can get a small, plus maybe to finish in the top ten or top five, and he look his worst finish and stroke-play event is here. Six eight to one right now. Eight to one I don't like single digits. It's hard. I think. I think maybe what you could do is hope that what what do they have the the wire to wire prop up yet? I don't sit mean that that's something where I know a lot of guys like playing that prop for a situation like this where that can often be better number eight to one will win and maybe ROY gets out to a big lead. Instead Howard Rory and eight to wonder maybe Dustin Johnson, you is what twelve to one ten to one. You might have a a big gun league bleeding, and you got a better price at him on wire. But, but I think a lot of times some of these top five top ten finish props are really the way to go because he gets them good. Plus, I think last year Rahm was like plus two fifty or something like that to finish in the top ten and worry was plus money to finish the top tannery speech was small plus money to finish and the top ten and guys who play so well on this course, I think are going to continue to play well on this course, and instead of trying. Beat. Eighty three or eighty four other guys you cut your. Yeah. You cut your potential winnings. But I think he got a much better chance potentially to cash that bet. All right. One more name or no one more name for for when I I say Bubba, potentially. Okay. Gosh, if we're sitting here to Sundays for now saying three time masters winner. Bubba Watson extra gear. There would be something in another another guy who I don't know Justin Rose gonna take a lot of support. I'm sure I'm not these always too short for me in majors. Any Paul Casey is a guy who you go back the last four years less four years, only, only Jordan, Rory and rose have a better combined score to par. Then casey. Now, he is not no on tour as one of the better closers, one of the better finishers and the only time he really contended in a major he blew up on the weekend. So I I don't know if I could play him at thirty two one. But he's another guy. He's good plus money for finishing the top ten or you find him in some head-to-heads what's favorable matchups. I think he's he someone to look at. But. I know I'm kind of chickening out on giving. You're sorta I come on here here. Here's what I'm going to give me somebody. Here's what I'm going to do though. I'm going to give you the. Write right down people paper. Here we go seven the last eight nine of the last twelve masters winners. First time major winners last thirteen. Major winners were first time. Major winners k twenty four the last twenty five major winners right to the top thirty got it. So odds are will looking guys who are top thirty players. Haven't won a major got it. Here's who we're looking at. Yep. Rice into Shambo? That's my pick Ricky Fowler. Jon Rahm Zander Shaw. Fleeing Paul, Casey, Tommy Fleetwood, Tony female, Matt Kuchar. Mark leash Mun Patrick Canley. Gary woodland, Kevin Kisner Dickey Ziama can win Smith, Alex nor and those are all guys in the top thirty who have yet to win a major. And there are some that were better or worse when it comes to the finishing in the major. You gotta look at a couple of guys as well. That might be better suited to go around. This course, again guys who playing it for the second or third time like a Canley like Shambo like fiend. Our last year play the turnament after suffering that just located ankle played great online kills me matchups Fleetwood. Who Fleetwood widow you mentioned Rahm Shaw flee cameras with all those guys second or third around that a buddy of mine today, who I really respect his opinion perspective friend, he likes he likes Shaath lease. I know Joe pita who follow him on whether his his math Tylden. His master's preview is fantastic love at your bible, and it is my bible, and he his top pick is one of those guy. I don't want. I'm not gonna give you know. I'm not gonna steal Joe's thunder until you picked I want you to go out and get your book. So I believe the magic rat s. Twitter handle so download his book. It's an easy read. But one one as a top pick is one of those guys in that top thirty group that I that I mentioned are other researcher j Mack who's with us and sportscenter he'll be at Augusta with he's in your same house. Right. I believe he's going with KEPCO. There's nothing wrong with that. All right. He's riding the Lightning's one three guys one three in the last six majors. And I believe the host the bald man with glasses is leaning towards Mr. female. So we're gonna have to double check with you need to love female, and I had him. I'd have him at a Shinnecock last year too. Big number. And the only thing I worry about with female is he still his only one one PGA tour event, and it was like the split week event with w per acre open that he won. It was a short field abbreviated field the week of a WC. He has yet to win to win a full field tight. But hey, you got a guy there that can string together a bunch of birdies in a row and with how well he played last year. Injured. He would not be surprised me. If he did ultimately wanted with him. I'm gonna say Shamal twenty I'm going with. That's not a bad pick. It all who leads after Saturday who leads who leads going into Sunday. One name. Brooks kept up. All right about that. And you say he loses ants on I'll say how one shot lead. All right. Are we gonna in Minneapolis? Yeah. We gotta figure we figure out place to go there. I remember gosh when you're free. I mean, you're just working xactly mcdonagh's got running around like not so. Can't we can't talk. You gotta go get breakfast Dickie v. Some some morning. Sportscenter hits on we'll Shanteau Sunday and Monday, absolutely Makara. Gosh, the last time I was in Minneapolis was the was the Arizona. Arizona Duke final four. Wow. That was a long time ago long time ago. Great had a great dinner with with raw blandly who. Okay. And Barry sacks. All right. It was it was then we capped off the evening at the Canterbury card club. Oh Canterbury down racetrack played some. It was aim on your suit. That was great. It was awesome. So much fun. Well, we'll be there Saturday. We're gonna do some stuff with game day on camera. He can I crush for second. Why would I do Steve's wearing a Colorado jacket here, and it just really is driving steak right through my heart because because we had Colorado would fifty to one to win the NIT and they play they ran out of gas. They got a bad that they got the bad end of the draw when they had short turnaround and have to go to Texas covered and then last year and then last year in the last man standing the college football ATS eliminator we got down pretty deep and the week. We lost. I think there were like seven people left and we had Colorado plus the seven and a half against Utah bus got up big. And then this completely appanage the tension folded up shop. All right. I'm getting a lot of a lot of things about Runyan's for wings. I think I might have to head their Sunday for lunch. Okay. If you're around. That's that's pencil. Then right now. All right. All right. We'll watch the final round Valero Texas Open on on Sunday. After that, Ricky flying that I do like it because I think it's a good opportunity for players who might want. I just maybe trying tweak something trite work on something. Maybe they wanna introduce a different shot or club. I think it's a good instead of practice instead of working on the practice rounds at Augusta where you really kind of need to learn the course just figure out the course with plan that week. I think an event like this is is being it's big big speeches plane to because he needs a little needs a whole lot of confidence to go in to actually make sure you send all your club recommendations in Minneapolis to accuracy exactly gonna wanna get down after the game. Hardly table service. Exactly. I have. After the game Saturday. A late night is sportscenter followed by early early Sunday. Sportscenter hit and then after the game on Monday will be will be will be up. We'll have the minute Minneapolis airs on the PJ against. Augusta minions. And in Minneapolis. You should you should come to come to go. I'm not invited that place. Come hang a credential. You can come. You can stay with the on. I all right. We'll see take us away here about unless you bet the more you lose when you win.

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Betting the Board with Brian Blessing  Tour Championship & NFL Preseason Week 3

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Betting the Board with Brian Blessing Tour Championship & NFL Preseason Week 3

"Overpaying the book dot com or your one stop shop for sports betting news and information. I posted my updated college. Football power ratings yesterday. Today i posted my top three over and top three under season win total best. That's also a college football situational piece for the week. One matchups will have a great tour championship preview preview from james mazzola later on today. We've got a ton of n._f._l. Stuff from danny borg's. I've got a couple of weeks. Three preseason previews up as well we've got w._n._b._a. It'd be a <hes> soccer. Tennis will have 'em leader next week. There is no m._m._a. About this weekend what nascar later in the week as well so plenty great stuff going on over at the book dot com one thing. I want to mention here real quickly. The topic today show is that when it comes to the playback of the show if you go through our blog talk radio dot com account. You're just going to get the unedited version of the program that also goes to i tunes. 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It's only a game on until you bet at two guests on the program here today. Hey we start things off with brian blessing the host sportsbook radio and vegas hockey hotline right. How's it going today man. I'm good at him. How you doing buddy here we go again. Uh yes sir absolutely i know that <hes> it's balls to the wall nose to the grindstone for us here for the next several months with football and then of course basketball and in college basketball running so deep in the month of march and april so i guess alaska this man <hes> the lead up to all of these seasons all these different things going on. How crazy busy has it been for you lately. Oh it's different. There's no doubt i mean you go through a couple of months where <hes> you know baseball baseball baseball baseball <hes> but then you know i guess you get into july and all of a sudden odds to win conferences and divisions and things of that that nature and then you start doing your college previews and you start talking about football again. When football's is the vapor trail so it's fun to start talking football again and you you know now preseason football and <hes> we got the college football games on saturday night here we go well speaking of those previous over on our bang book youtube page brian's been nice enough to be doing conference breakdowns for us s._e._c. Coming either tonight or tomorrow over there and he'll have a preview for us of this tour championship get chip event and brian. This is much much different here this year because we have such a dramatically different format for the tour you're championship in two thousand nineteen filler listeners in on what's so different about this year's final playoff event. Well basically what they did. <hes> they made all the points throughout the course of the year then trim the four playoff event down to three quadrupled what drubel the points in the first two and then now at this late number one who's justin thomas will start the events at ten ten under parts and he gets a two shot hit start on patrick kelly and all the way back to the thirtieth competitor and the those guys guys at the bottom. We'll start at even par so you know you're rewarded for what you've done. Most of the season but the reality of it is the playoff convent's are so big where patrick read and even can't leave the swoop themselves way up top because points were quadrupled old in the two previous tour events so it it's interesting now. <hes> and i think these are kind of some of the things we always talk about adam in terms of trying to get the best the number and we did this in fact i. I'm pretty positive <hes> on our video last week bankbook. I was not crestfallen westfalen but disappointed patrick canley. He played great. He could've won that event. Justin thomas was just ridiculous <hes> but last week we said hey listen. You know patrick canley <hes> he is. I think he was fourteen to one to win last week but if you better than this week you should bet him next week as well because if he's there and global hold it's what happened. <hes> can't leave <hes> i bet can't last week at eighteen to one four to win the fedex cup and basically by having the runner up finished can't leave who's now four to one <hes> this week. I've got two eighteen to one to win the fedex cup so it's almost like shopping for numbers or hedging the future of forgiving yourself a chance to get an overlay price and i know he did that on the video last week so knock on wood coming in. I've got can't lead to shots off the pace if he's able to win this week instead of getting four to one. I'm getting the team to one yeah. You've got justin thomas here as you mentioned. Starting at ten under can't way eight-under brooks kepco seven under patrick patrick read excuse me at six rory at five and a handful of players at minus four cooter shaath way simpson simpson rom and abraham answer who's had a nice little run here of late but as we look at the osborne justin thomas plus two fifty at ten under with that built into shot lead over can't lay can't plus four fifty five kept about five to one worry about seven to one nobody else under fourteen to one here so the question obviously becomes this brian i mean how do you approach this thing in a vacuum this week. I know you've got can't lay at the great price. Is there anybody worth taking this week that can go and run down justin thomas at a decent price. I played two guys <hes> nothing outlandish <hes> but again thirty guys there is no cut yeah and basically i think what happened in the final round. Last week is conceivably. What could happen here. I <hes> i can really see the this'll bent having a bottleneck going into the weekend because when you're thomas intently arguably <hes> ten shot lead or eight shot lead over guys at the back of the pack you're coming out of the gate and what is your mindset. I mean are you flag hunting. You know when you're thomas specifically. I mean out of the gate of he's gonna wanna see what guys are doing. Are you making a move at him because last here's what happened last week he has a six shot lead going into sunday can't lead close to two and had all the momentum minimum and now all of a sudden through twelve thirteen holes justin thomas was asked to i gotta flip a switch again and he hit one shot. They won the tournament and he the leader gotten cuts to hit a bad drive. In from ruffy stiff one made birdie <hes> in can't we lipped lipped out a birdie and slid in eagle just by or that would have got really interesting at the thomas very deserving winner but the mindset of the guys at the top you know we're we're trying to shrink here but i i would think out of the gate. Thomas intently would be thinking okay. It's kinda matchplay all over again <hes> what shoot at the middle of greens and see how of course the set up but the guys that are ten shots bag are going to be flagged on so <hes> you yeah. Some guys will shoot themselves out of it. They'll be a guy or two who's aggressive that plays well and can get right back in it and then it turns into a golf tournament head into the weekend yeah the two guys i looked at and i thought it <hes> twenty six to one. I think sandra's sharply is a guy who's won this event before. I think you could take a long hard. Look at it again. He's got four days. You know shape to offer day <hes> you and you're right there. <hes> the other guy that i think had a balloon number. <hes> is kevin kisner. Jordan speed is been a basket case this year because he's just playing military ball. You don't know where it's going left right left right but the one thing about speed is i mean he he hangs around because he's rolling conforti orders the two best putters if you ask me from long range i can't remember seeing a guy this year other than speed that bold in in scares the whole every time some forty fifty feet and that's kisner. I and he's a steely. I kinda guy so i shall flee and kizer or the two guys all played coming coming into this event. I've already got canley and then the other way to play it. Bud is to look long and hard at match ups and i match ups are are going to be very intriguing in this event again based on the mindset. Don't don't forget your <hes>. You know. I didn't know the exact number you senate yesterday. In fact they gotta try to pull it up but it's like just making the top third by y you know and that's what i loved about the events last week. Oh forty guys forty second. He gets a birdie. Oh he's he's moved within thirty third and that's that's a tournament within the tournament because <hes> if you make the tour championship the guy who finishes last year's cashing three hundred thousand dollars just for putting a pagan ground yeah yes yes three hundred ninety five thousand dollars prize. I four finishing thirtieth here so you know as you mentioned just getting here is certainly more than enough and you know i it. It's such an interesting handicapped because you have no margin for error here in terms of taking a look at some of the longer shot so you need dudes that can go out there and post back toback sixty. Three's unique guys can go out there. You know golly jon rahm for example got robbed. Go shoot a sixty two or sixty three but what does he do the next day. Can he be consistent hideki matsui yama same thing last week he had to phenomenal rows made. Every putt just was awesome off. The tee. Also approach coach is other two rounds. He wasn't particularly good so you guys that can consistently go low here and also you said for a matchup standpoint look. If you're at the back of the pack here you are in the middle of the pack. Really you have to play very aggressively to try and make a push here on thursday and friday. Sometimes aggression is good. Sometimes congressional can be bad so i agree with you that even though it's hard to find equity futures price here matchups are definitely the way to go this weekend and there could be a lot of good angles with those yeah. You know i think part of that is the demeanor of the guy you know. Middle tier guys are gonna listen. It's like the world series of poker. I i think if you finish eight is that right if you finish gate you're a millionaire. Eighth-place gets a million the bucks this tournament. It's not so they're big balloons on line here you know so there'd be guys that are thrilled to be here and you say oh. I you know every shot. I made <hes> guys are being aggressive in fallen by the wayside. You know guys look. I'd walk should sixty nine four days in a rolling out finish ninth and it's like winning the tournament you know in ninth place finish means a lot to certain guys. Other guys could care less. They got more money than they'll ever know what to do. With all that matters to them is winning so a lot of it is you're trying to get between the years of these guys. What's the motivation well and that was something me you and i talked about. I know we chatted a little bit on sunday and you were talking about. Maybe looking to play against justin thomas in a match up because you know he had the tournament one as long as he didn't fall down. It was kind of like a horse. It's got a big lead as long as he doesn't fall down. He's got this thing one. He tried his damnedest to fall down but the guy he didn't have to play aggressively so wrong. Don't match ups against guys with incentive. That may be a situation. We get on sunday in this thing as well well listen. The oddsmakers aren't stupid. I mean it was it. Was you know if you're willing to let you know thirty cents and there's so many plus prices that are out there but the reality of it was what what what were the odds makers telling elliot dustin. Thomas had a six shot lead. He's playing lightsout in patrick can't leave minus a dollar thirty on the sunday matchup because thomas was going to be as he should have been shooting at the middle of brains. It can't was going to be more aggressive and you. You can't leave easily won. The match are so as we transition away here from the gulf and talk a little bit of n._f._l. It is week three of the preseason. This is is the week that matters the most in the preseason because a lot of the starters play at least a half usually ended the third quarter. The backups will play the remainder of the game so you don't have to worry yeah about you know undrafted joe. Who's not going to have an n._f._l. Job in a week closing out the game for you so it's a little bit of a different type of dynamic here this week. We kind a see that with some bigger numbers out there for week three as well but ryan in terms of your handicapping mindset for this dress rehearsal week. What are your thoughts on what we've got going on. The preseason is always going to be buyer. Beware of that doesn't mean you can't have firm opinions and ended upon the short side of things. I one of my favorite places. The preseason was the over in the first arizona first game arizona and the chargers was because tyrod taylor was gonna play the first half and he'd go up and down the field 'cause it was important for the chargers to get an action. He took him right down the field. They went eighty five yards in three minutes. It's first and goal at the two in the running back fumbled the football all right one play and you'll play in the over in the first half of that game. It was a loser because then the cardinals cardinals come out and took seven minutes off the clock got it out with a forty five and pundit and it ended up being seven seven at the half and it was over twenty and a half. They scored twenty the eight points if that running back didn't fumble the yard line so there's always those scenarios that can bite you in the butt. <hes> there were a couple i you do look at at the numbers and there's some things that you look at week one indianapolis i don't i just don't understand <hes> the numbers to be honest with you week. One in these playing at buffalo no walk. It's percents the bills at the number two defense in the league last. You're at it all over and it's all about you know the josh allen in matt barkley's really good back and they've been in the like the game was over over they could move the football to save their life and buffalo won easily and i didn't do anything i like confounded by that but i don't know it looks well. The next weekday come back. They do the same thing but browse look great in their first game and they make n._b._a. Three point favorite against the browns. What am i missing here like the wrong. Team is favourite eight. Cleveland won the game twenty one eighteen and they're doing it again. The indy it means a four point favorite against the bears again. It's all about motivation but if i'm sitting there looking at a quarterback rotation of trubisky chase daniel in tyler bray i wrong teams favors. I mean i could be wrong but i you know what i've seen through two weeks so there's nothing changed in that regard art yet they keep betting indie well and that's something is interesting here about week three as well you know if you're into a lot of times people like to back those ooh team is because they think well they wanted to get some sort of positive feelings going especially here in the dress rehearsal week so maybe they'll show up and actually play a little bit here and then also for the home team's maybe there's a little bit more of a buzz because the crowd is going to be a little bit bigger the crowds and be a little bit more invested with the starters playing and there's some i'm incentive. Maybe a little bit of pressure in some instances from ownership from the g._m. From the business department to put your best foot forward here in this home game to to sell tickets sell merge drums interests all that kind of thing so there are some of those factors as well but then there are also some coaches out there that just don't give a shit whether it's week three the preseason or not so i think there are that's a land mines and a lot of options to look at the rams. I mean mcveigh spent few if you spend a half of a quarter on the headset on the broadcast. It was talking on the broadcast. He'll i wasn't even coaching the game. I mean he. You don't care the the drew brees the saints won. The game is the day before the game in san diego. Drew brees is hanging out del mar betting horses. I mean you know the general rule of thumb and i go all the way back to my days. I was there every they <hes> during that stretch in buffalo when the bills with the four straight super bowl it was called club club. Mars you know the first game. You could've put your house on it. They did no one that mattered was going to be anywhere near the field and the bills would get mauled in the first preseason game when they went a super bowl four years in a row. The general rule of thumb is good teams and true contenders. All they're trying to do is get to the bill starting gate with their place. It's like trying to get a horse but a started game future and the kentucky derby. The hardest thing is to get be have one. That's in the top twenty in the ah the good teams don't care about staying healthy. Yeah and you certainly can't blame them for that and obviously there's been a lot more traction here for you know going from four preseason games down to maybe extending the regular season. Maybe doing some more joint practices as opposed to preseason games so you can hit somebody other than your own teammates. Maybe we do see some changes here to the preseason as we go forward but one last thing i want to ask you about here. Brian and we'll look at one game specifically you mentioned indianapolis line moving and one that maybe you don't understand but as a general rule. What do you think about why you're specifically for week three of the preseason oh you pay attention to it but i again like anything some of them. Some of those moves can be misguided and and i'll just go to those two indie games. You know like that things moving a certain way and i'm going. I what am i miss it. You know or like anything you had the handicapped the line move to go oh well. I understand why that's the case <hes> but i you know i just just like any aspect of preseason. Football buyer. Beware in the line. Move could be just completely misguided all right so one game. I want to take a look at here specifically civically and and maybe this comes from you know a buffalo point of view because you are a buffalo guy here but i do know that you've followed the bills closely in their two preseason games. James gunn detroit friday night on the road at ford field. That was a one point favorite lines whip now buffalo minus one not like this is a substantial line moved by any means. These are two teams that have dramatically different in the exhibition season well. I i will tell you that yesterday morning. I was doing a different podcast. Not this is not my favorite one but the numbers came up and i and i just looked like you gotta be kidding me. Detroit opened a two and a half point favorites and in the meat of this podcast. I'm going the wrong team sabre. Do you know what happens remains to be seen but the wrong team is favored. Detroit spinners dog's breakfast. It will sure enough. This thing crosses all the way back detroit open two and a half now buffalo's one. I bet you the thing goes up to two and a half at least <hes> here's the thing both ways only only preseason so it's a bills fan but i am objective because betting the bottom line things buffalo is looked phenomenal opiates in the preseason for a number of reasons. They had the number two defense last year. Everybody's backing they added at all. <hes> and their backups have been flying around and making plays i mean on the defensive side of the ball they got incredible debt and in the off season they went and got john entire new offensive line but they've been mangled by injury but the big thing was and this is what you do in the pre season you'll do for defying quarterback battles <hes> <hes> you know maybe the fourteen to play the total because the only way you can evaluate a quarterback is to throw the football buffalo had every play josh allen made made last year. He made running for his life and doing it himself now. You're watching these games. There's a pocket. There's an actual pocket there and they've got they've got seven eight. These wide receivers fighting for six bucks and these guys are all making play. They've they've all come and a good wide. Receiver is going to get cut from this football team but the biggest addition has been copiously and if you watch their games you think edleman got got traded to buffalo and so she looks like a completely different guy or he is pocket. He's looking down field and seeing if there's the stretch plays they're anti ah it's not right out of the gate. Keep quickly looks for the check down on beasley who's running against the linebacker and it's four yards of separation. It's like any moves you eight yards. Every time he had five catches for forty four yards in their two series against the panthers. The offense actually looks pretty doggone good and then on top of it matt barkley who beat the jets forty one ten coming off the street last year in a regular season game. It has a full year of knowing the offense matt bahr barclays been the lights out in the two preseason games and in the second half. You've gotta be you. You're going to be looking at matt barkley. Who's gonna go up and down the field and maybe do some good things. The scary thing is if it comes down to the fourth quarter and they put high every jackson and the you know he could do something stupid and blow blow. What's been three quarters of good work for you but i mean from what i've seen. The bills are are playing at a really good level right now. Be preseason in the lines. Get out of their own way one as you look at the lions here big question us to whether or not we even see matthew stafford this week if we don't the bills are playing to n._f._l. Quarterbacks and the lions are essentially playing zero because david fales josh johnson are are you guys that are behind stafford stafford yet to play here so far in the preseason as i mentioned so. I don't know if he'll go this week. I guess we'll find out but you know matt. Patricia patricia hasn't really played anybody. Kennedy golic and played marvin jones hasn't played danny. Amendola has been hurt. Kerryon johnson only had three carries last week. So you sort of wonder i mean does he flip the script just because this is the third preseason game and put everybody out there or to see as you mentioned earlier just worry about getting two week one intact as healthy as you possibly can cause the last thing you wanna do is trot matt stafford out there because you're supposed to in the dress rehearsal he takes the sack and the bills i have five of them so far in the preseason and then he's down for week one and possibly more so i think the wind moves correct and quite frankly even at the minus one price or even maybe all the way up to minus two and a half. I think buffalo's still decide here and i'm gonna i'll throw one one goofy one at you just as a point of conversations and yeah. I'm yapping about the bills but that i watched every play play the preseason. I'm in dire need of getting a life but this i and i'm telling you i don't understand it at coachspeak run. Stop the run you know in in all things coaches say but they three pretty fast but for the game offense defense special teams there is no number in the wagering wide built in not ever for special teams and i i think is it an intangible thing maybe to a degree but i think there should be because if you sit there it through week seven and some teams is like just the absolute drags on special teams or team is the best where our they're they're constantly teams inside the pointy or they're getting fifteen yards on punt returns and the special teams winning the field position battle. That's a big deal and there's no number for that and buffalo has been an absolute unmitigated disaster on on special teams yet go all the way back to terrence mcgee <hes> when he led the league in kickoff returns. They been a disaster. You know what they did this year they win. They got this andrei robert sky from the jets. Who's a beast <hes> kickoff and punt returns kick off ninety percent of them. They kicked out of the end zone but i'm telling you special teams is actually going to be a positive factor for the bills this season and and there was another weapon that in a preseason game or guys running down there trying to make a tackle and just make the team you get crazy goofy breakdowns and lanes i the other thing is i. You know you've got this. Andre roberts probably in the first half returning punts. He could bust one for a touchdown yeah well. That's a good dogs. They're especially the special teams plant something that i really don't think that we talked enough about in the n._f._l. And and we certainly should and maybe we'll do that some more here on the show as we go throughout the season but brian with just a couple of minutes left. I want to ask you about college football. I know you're a big time n._f._l. Guy golf horses for college football. You've been doing those video previews over on dr bang book youtube page doing some research with that you know in that type of way. What else have you been doing here to get ready for the college football season which kicks off on saturday oh i i think that's one of the beauties for doing a daily radio. Show doing your podcast and things of that nature <hes> tonight. I'll be <hes> on visa in <hes> with kenny white <hes> so and tomorrow night with bruce marshall two guys that are amazing and couch surround yourself <hes> and the minute. You think you know everything you know. Nothing you've just you'd have to be a sponge and you take it all in and at the end of the day you gotta make your own decision and pull your trigger <hes> but you just take it all in <hes> and i think the other thing i would say to you adam like like saturday night. <hes> i got nothing on the florida miami game but honestly i mean the arizona hawaii game see them. Scoring two hundred points i mean khalil tate was hurt last year. He was able to play but he he wasn't the stool threat running all over the place. <hes> in the mcdonald kid the first month of college football last year. It was insane what he was doing and then he got hurt and he played her all year long. These two kids coming in healthy. I think that game flies over the total the total seventy four more so the the other thing. I would say those you do all this reading and you have all this information but it's on paper you know no. I mean it's not like pre-season n._f._l. Where you get to see snippets of things that you can apply and i'm a big eyeball guy you know like if you watch should game and in the first half team moves the ball up and down the field three times in turn it over inside the red zone twice and settled for a field goal <hes> you you know they clean it up in the second half and they're catching points because they're down. You know you gotta watch these games with gameplay wagering and i do believe <hes> that the first full weekend the college football. I that's what i'm going to be doing. I'm going to be like a traitor. I'm going to sit here and i'm gonna watch a lot are these games and as the game's going on to form an opinion. I kinda see what's going on here. It's not the guy got information. It's a guessing game that i'm going to do the majority of my plane so i know what i'm see him <hes> in in play or with second-half wagering the first week. Maybe even the second week college that's for me. That's how i'm gonna approach it brian blessing who as he mentioned going to be on visa in tonight and tomorrow and filling in a little bit over there but then you also your daily shows sports radio and also vegas hockey hotline how people check out those programmes bryant a sportsbook talk radio dot com adam and believe me going through the summer months. There's been a lot of talk about hockey. It's been wild <hes>. I've never seen anything like that all the years fifty the years of follow in this game. I've never seen anything like it. Where always restricted free agents haven't signed yet and everybody's bogged down salary cap wasn't what they thought it was gonna be and everybody's waiting for the shooter drop and it's not just about the restricted free agents is once these guys signs teams know where or they stand salary cap li- some ridiculous deals are going to have to be made so this is gonna be wild month coming up in hockey. We talked about that a lot today. On sports radio tony nevels sportsbook director great guy treasury is going to be in studio for an hour so you know we get the whole the top sportsbook directors in vegas on on the show and it's great to get that thought process from the other side of the counter so new to to <hes> weekdays pacific time k._f._c. h._p. Dot com you can listen. 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Anime Podcasters 85: Death Battles We Need!!!!

Anime Podcasters

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Anime Podcasters 85: Death Battles We Need!!!!

"Hi Guys. Welcome back. We bring you episode of Anime PA casters. Today I am back with my main host, my desk parallel homey. Barrel Home Bray my best. Friend in the whole wide world hotshot has the man. It's going going good. It's going fine going just straight right on did. To be here today in all seriousness today, we have a topic that we've done once before a long time ago, but we're rehashing because it's been two or three years at least is this podcast that we did. We are going to be coming up with five death battles, each enemy based battles that we're GONNA pitch to screw attack I really wanted to take this podcast is opportunity like let's tweak this to the death battle researchers. Let's chat all. CORETEC let's get that out there. That's on their celebrate or something and let like, let's just give them like ten. MAYBE THEY WANNA WANNA use we. We took the time to come up with five death battles each and we're gonNA. We're. GonNa go over this hotshot how you feel about the your pigs in now and everything how's it going I'm feeling all right but. Honestly like one that I, that I've been wanting to see forever they actually announced that they're doing the cannon battle of it like officially announced so I can't fall back on that one anymore. So I act fast. So I actually had to come up with new battles because I was I was I was holding onto hope for that one but now apparently it. It's being worked on Great. They're making your wish come true. poor you mad socks. I'm sorry to hear that. Well, Saks when we're doing a topic about it and I can't talk about my dream despot a one, it's happening but it's OK hotshot because I'm here for you I. had. That hurt me than you know. I went through our older podcasts. We did all this episode Twenty Eight, I think are twenty nine. And here are some of the battles we came up with hotshot we had zoro versus Satsuki Levers Zuko Yangshao longer the right gay we had use cavers Fash we had L. Verses Mono- Cuma we have male Yoda's versus Naruto Sakura Versus Arman which you picked that's still to this day makes makes no sense to me midori overs this curio. Ruby versus Maka and soul and Ken Connor Dickie versus Lellouche. That was what we came up with last time and I wanNA say the Maka versus Ruby one that's the one that can that's coming out is it yeah that's that's the one. Well I saw tweeted a while back at least Canley announced but like it's not being worked on yet I'm not sure while you call them at least hotshot maybe listen to podcasts they were like Oh man we're GonNa make it happen. Yeah. Three years later. Yeah exactly. All right. So before we get into this Let let me know let the audience know what wouldn't you pick your battles The factors that play I tried to do like similar a similar character types or similar like fighting styles like similar ways of going into combat to go head to head with each other I wasn't gonNa have like a long range fighter go against like someone close range or like someone who could use the supernatural building like say. From Nardo and put them in something. That's just. Like power. Rangers. For example, like I know it's not an anti but just go with it basically if their power set reminds me or is similar to me in any way that's what I tried to go on for. Okay. See for myself I really wanted to do A. Really good picks like really good choices something that's going to work for sure something that the audience would get behind i. feel like I I went more for a voice of the people kind of thing. So would you like to go first or? Should I can I go I? I'll go first because I think my first one is going to surprise you a little bit. We're setting the tone here hotshot. So set the tone we're setting a tone. Yes. So I'm GonNa do this in a teasing way that I'm going to reveal the death battle is because why not tease the tone before you said it shot So. Both these characters seeming to be unkillable both these characters have unworldly power behind their ours in their arsenal like they can use unworldly power and both these characters are just us not bad people at all these two characters. My I ask battle is won punch man Saitama Versus Kurosawa say? Oh my gosh. Here's here's the thing. So I'm just GONNA put it out there in the verse one of those who characters in within one of my battles I'll just say. Okay. But I don't know I don't see death battle putting sight to mine there ever. No I. Know I know but this would be hilarious this it'd be hilarious. This would be it's the pony versus deadpool Communist vibe getting here right because curson say can be obliterated. We all know this but he can regenerate in like even from the tiniest of forms or even when he's like in his. Like defensive little shell that he has put himself into eight can't be penetrated like even by anti him anything. So laying now so he can regenerate he has like the ultimate defense he can go mach twenty, and then side tomorrow can literally just like destroy anything in single punch my question is can he destroys a a so badly that even he can't regenerate I think no, but then Sense. They actually can't sight tomato and do any actual physical damage to him and that I'm not sure either it like this one throws a bunch of questions up in the air like canvas actually happen or can can he actually land to hit or anything like that? Especially, if Kirsten's going mach twenty and sites among going God knows how fast. I remembering site the most moon feet remember when he like it took him like what twelve seconds to do from the moon to earth or something like that. So I don't know what that intensive speech equates to, but I'm sure he's moving faster than. Ben Mc Twenty. Yeah for sure like one hundred percent like there's no, there's. All. Yeah well, yeah. Kiss occurs sunset like he'll go to like the states or anything and be back like in time for class but then again, he's also taking his time in everything too. So my question is is much money like the fastest. Or is that just like his standard? I don't know. I. Don't know what like obviously we're approaching this. I should say this and stop the show but we're pushing this for me. This is what would be cool to see we're not going to like. Find a conclusive win for sure. We're just giving our thoughts here in general but. I just I strongly feel that site them I will be faster site, punch harder and Saitama. I mean Ma- maybe courses he has. In his arsenal and more different like difference, suffocating us and everything. But at the same time like scientific, just get a hold of you and it's over right like I take one budget you think like for for normal humans and for Meta human study meets in His universe and Hell even aliens that he meets in His universe. Yeah. That's exactly how it goes but no, no one in one punch man that I can think of at least has ever come close to the same kind of character that curls sense is or the same kind of being that he is right It's it's hard because I'm trying a I'm trying to think here that the king was pretty now keep in mind boy to give you know like boroughs you what do you think boils? Yeah. The final game in season one, the alien was. Yeah Yeah for yeah. Okay. I know what you mean now. McHugh the hell boroughs I'm not hungry right now. Now that's a character Hud. Burrito. I mean he he gave insights tomorrow at least a slight push to where sites to my head to get like these slightest bit serious. But like no one has done that to curl sunset yet unless they pissed off his students in which case they just pissed him the fuck. And There's this other village in season two. I don't WanNa go too much into. Garut. This guy's this guy like doesn't like. I said he he he takes s class fighters to here and he's not that not that bad of fighter really not that bad he's he has endurance and I could see him maybe fighting against say so I just feel like we're ranking the assassination classroom universe versus the one punishment universe site the Mo- wins in my opinion like this is the site, the MOCHA. It I do think it is essentially to win especially like if he gets curson saying the water or anything in that regard at all. Yeah. But at the same time, it would still be awesome to see. It would be I don't discredit whatsoever for sure it would I just like to frankly unkillable beings just going head to head with each other until one of them falls like those kind of battles I actually really yeah right on but but when push comes to shove I, am GonNa have to give you agree with you and I am going to have to say I'd probably have to decide to yeah okay. So I should probably go to my first Unless. You have anything else you WANNA say hotshot no I'm getting. Okay. So my first fight like differently sprint off the. One of the more recent enemy death battles that the death penalty did UH. All night versus my guy, can you guess what my fight would be based off those two characters I mean no rock levers. You had. Allen Yeah you see have the senses. Let's get the students going see. There's precedent here first of all mid Doria versus Rockley would be amazing and like M- like just from like for for. The thing is we already saw their abilities like being little via. All night and my guy. Use of the strong fist. Broccoli in his type Jitsu dynamic entry leave hurricane leaves. Drop Leaf. World. Win. The the gates obviously being another above. Leases all the leave from what I can tell could only open up to the sixth gate I haven't seen him push past the sixth gate so That's Something that we could not down for. Sure. And then he also like his drunk fist like I would love to see drug fists. And he? Also, like when we when you think about like Rockley speed, we remember like you know he takes off his his weights when he was finding as getting and like he's fat, he's moving faster than the I can catch right? Right. So and that's just another way. The I remember him like being able to like being really powerful and. If I'm not mistaken he had this one fighting Shapur. where he destroyed Lake. A huge chunk rock like almost like a meter size I think. Winning, assist six gate. He does a bunch of awesome battle. So so that's like for Rockley, that's just and then when we're talking about Majoria, obviously, we got like one for all his thing because originally obviously he was cordless. And when he uses like twenty percent he can lie you know jumping bursts or he can like do the air bullets. A he wasn't like matching it up completely like he's fighting a twitter rookie and he's like flicking his hands and he's breaking one finger time remember in the tournament. So that's another thing. That's there at the other thing that's like relates these both these characters have recoil right? The primary lowest recoil for all recode unless it's like fully mastered. So there's a lot of like INS and outs here that go. And so I think it would be a great battle. I was really thinking that it would be a. More on. Remember like he uses said he he uses like. One hundred percent of wines and I want to go. I know you didn't finish the season. He goes even further now in a decade is one for all he's fighting like that Not Overload. I know the name. Dead. Hall overhaul overall. Finding is we're hall okay. Cool. With with the I can't remember the girl's name either on his back but with her on on his back because she kept rewinding his quirks that we wouldn't get into. I've played it the the game covered it. I mean speed wise. I think rock. He's got him because like like keep up with Lake what's that guy's name the here killer is GonNa be Suada bonus here like it would be a fight for both of them but I would have to give the win to Lee because the only reason that Madeira was even able to use one hundred percent one for all was because of the girl on his back rewinding him, he's still can't fully master like he can use one for all enough to where he can use like a certain percentage but if he over does it then he still gonNa break something and Majoria but then when strategy comes into play because he's a brilliant strategist when it comes to taking down people stronger than him but he's also incredibly reckless. You can actually like us all or how many times he can exceed the limit or anything like that. It would be a hell of a fight but was leased willpower alone to dislike overcome like now he's doing this. Okay. I'll just have to be way better than that, and that's exactly what we will do like he doesn't take it Hadi cycles like Lee sees strategies and has used these used against him and has come off himself. But even though most of his strategies result in just beating the enemy now I feel like he can. Just like overcome any strategy that minority can come through or if he can't overcome than, he can just like power through them with with his speed and everything especially with the negates 'cause older Lee actually doesn't have the the restriction of Primary Lotus that was when he was again. But when he's a, he's a tuning when he's joning, he can overcome it. He can use it like no problem. Yeah. I just think like the the one thing that Lee might not have undocumented deco as an I I might be completely wrong when they say Is. Like an actual. attack. Poignancy like I remember like. Decorate smashing that robot when he was like just starting and he used like one for all for the very first time But like lease also done some pretty big blows like I mean he absolutely destroyed the arena when he was getting against Gara. So I, don't know but I think it will Raleigh would win. That's that's how I make sure that being said I think it'd be A. Great battle that anime fans would be high up for this one for sure. It would be a sequel to to the all my versus guy, and that death battle loan was probably their most popular if not like most sought after. But at the same time, do you think this would still get them as excited because it'd be like rehashing the same fight in a lot ways like I know. Way Different than all my Lee isn't really all that different because the my hero fans are bitter they're stir symbol of peace lost. Okay. Well, I best your decker could destroy Rockley. Okay Boo. Let's make it happen. It's like a rematch and then latest Roy's Docu Danieli. So yeah. That's how that's how I see this one playing out just because like a deck has a tendency to think too much and like try to get into an area where he thinks too much and lead doesn't like he'll think when he's on the on the battlefield and he will save a strategy but he's more. So focused on just taking down hoosier veteramn like he'll think of how to do it but he's he'll just charge in before he can more often than not especially if like if his blood starts spoiling if I borrow, it was just like another point of Maderas Checklist Raimondo Mentor. So he's had more people like to teach him stuff. So that could help him potentially just. A vehicle it'd be cool fight. Yeah. Just my job to turn. All right. So I actually have a here academia character in mind too but it's not who you're thinking of its go. So both these it's not Balki. Oh, I actually thought of one for Bucky. Oh. Okay. This one is Momo versus Edward. elrick. Okay That's abstract. How. How's it? How's it would come up with that? Okay. Well, let me when he's through it then real quick. So with Momo, having the ability like her quirk is creation. So basically, she understands the molecule structure of whatever she's trying to create. She can create it at will, but it takes time for her to create said objects, which is why when she in the heroes sponsorship tournament that she almost immediately lost because he couldn't react fast enough to create her items. Meanwhile on Ed side, he can create anything for out. Of the materials that he takes from like no transfer transferred circle no nothing like that. Basically as long as he takes something from an item, he can create something new from that item like taking a chunk of concrete and then just like crafting it into like a dagger or something. So with both these creation s tracks to him. It just leaves like to the imagination like literally can come up with and it. It's kind of like a lantern fight from DC like green lantern fought against different green lantern literally the only. Bummer is your imagination. That's kind of what I'm basing this one off of because they can both create out. It would be yet go ahead. Sorry like like did that Momo can create anything as long as he understands it like she could create flash fangs, she could create a sword or one of my favorite says she creates a electrical insulated cloak. So like electricity can get through but ed like mainly using his arm and a lot of it like making his blade or making staff a shield or like basically using the floor around him to project himself up onto a pillar and stuff like that i. just think it'd be a lot of fun going back and forth. I think that it would just be one of those. They both have the same abilities they have the similar repertoire. But like Rick Wins Right 'cause Mamo is good. But now like she's she's definitely lower tier character in my here academia and I feel like Elrick is a main character just has more in his arsenal is is that he has more here's more in his arsenal. He's done more. He's definitely experienced more combat like Mojo has fought but like mainly it's been her brain power her through, which has almost every. Every fight the she's been in, but never to the of like. A major opponent down meanwhile in foam at Aucas pick literally almost any bad guy that you can think of Ed has taken down at one point or another, and I am going to have to back you up. I. Do think I'm going to have to give this win to Ed, but it would just be amazing to fight just because of like how creative both garage I see I see where you're coming from with that I honestly. Mobile I've seen her action I obviously elrick less and less elrick, but in general. elrick, we wouldn't in my opinion just because I. Almost like in the early beginnings of her of her. Life as a battle person. When wife as a combatant? Yeah. Whereas ed literally has to take down all the corrupted alchemist in his area or like when wrath takes over takedown basically anyone wraps sends out. Yeah or any targets that not that he has at the time he has experienced these combats like a lot of which, without Alice, help in a lot of which were like something happens to Alan edges losing. So like experience alone yeah. I'M GONNA have to give the thing is here. So can I go to my next battle? Okay forty years here. I I. Have a battle lined up. It's a great battle, but there's one of the characters. There's so many versions of this character. I don't know which one to pick. So I'm just going to go with like the one that you know and just in general like just like the. Asterix. On this fight like I would love to see any iterations of that character versus the WOM- So I'm picking from Samurai Shampoo Morgan do you see what I'm talking about here? I was trying to think of another characteristic him. Okay. Go on a sore fighters is the same here I would pick cya from blood seat. It would yeah. Honestly like blood see unfortunately I've only seen that first episode discuss everything else have been kept by reports end Samurai Shampoo I've seen to episodes. But I but I know the sword skill that both of these characters have. From what I've seen at least, it does seem to be close talking. Cools contest the thing here is that Mcginn is really unorthodox. His his findings style if you can remember it. It's basically like break dancing with a sword. That's what it is. It's like spending young jumping slashing black and like Sayas very like formerly trained and refined, and you can see your like definitely like putting up a strong fighting against the burns throughout blood you saw the first part of it and the similar speeds I feel like their strength is pretty similar maybe Muga Nesbitt more. We'll probably has a bit more experience being older as vagabond a drifter. He's hired as a mercenary, but like science fought lay incredible monsters that Mugabe's never fought before. So balances out and then in terms of strength I just I don't know I really think like this would be amazing. Just line lineup to sort fighters, devolve swords, and we'd be like a Samurai fight would be amazing. It'd be like Afro Jag versus. What was the other guy? The other Samurai of the headband you mean Samurai Jack versus. Samurai. You combine both of them. You them. What you did was developed between those two U., shaped, Afro Samurai and. Jack. You made. Josh. Thing that there's been a death battle of that of those two before it was really great. It would be like you know battle has done this before. So yeah, it would be an awesome fight between these two and I could just see them just going at it and. I if I had to pick if I had to pick I, think Mugabe wins. Maybe that's all I got. It's honestly like I said, I have a lack of evidence on both of these fighters. So unfortunately, I can't get a dive too deep into it but from the experience that I've heard about for both these characters or as Moog take sound like bounty hunters and like other Samurai else whereas cya hunts down literal monsters capable of destroying the entire town or city I'm GonNa have to give the fighting owls. I'm going to have to give the wind Asya but again, I'm speaking with a very limited deck here take with a grain and. It's a cold call for the to. Say Yeah Amazing fight like it would be great, it would be great. The only way to know for sure is to see that's on. One of these happened at least within a year. Okay. Next Paik hotch go go ahead. So so refresh my memory. In in Samurai Jack Versus Effort Samurai. Did Afra-, win or lose you're putting me. In a long since I've seen it, I think that I think that's right. Jack Wins I. Think I'm going to go I'M GONNA. Go ahead okay. Well, the e, the possible winner of that fight efforts high is in my next battle So again, I don't know whether he won or lost, but point being he was in as before, but I have Afro Samurai versus psycho from high school the Death Oh interesting. Okay. Okay. So psycho from high school, the dead has been trained in the. Way of the sword like maybe not to Samra s levels, but she's been trained with the swords. He's been trained with firearms in seed basically most down like a wave of zombies. Meanwhile, Afro has fought other other Samurai. He's fought in bounty hunters, people with guns and rocket launchers taken them down. So they have kind of a similar, a battle aspect to sovereign drafting. Psycho Samurai Jack one that one. Okay. So F over a loss once maybe he'll lose again. But more of a point just like these these similar kind of experiences like with fighting waves of enemies at once or fighting severely outclass firepower like psycho has used guns before but Afro has also reflected bullets before and has proven to be a master of the sword when it comes to. Sort on sword combat psycho. However, we haven't seen really a whole lot of anyone coming after her with a sword. We've just seen mowed down zombies. So it'd be kind of a trial for her to see like how she would handle another swordsman opponent and I'm I'm just curious to see how that man I just I I don't know these two like I remember watching is. He's very in the back of my mind and Afro Samurai. All I know is from the debt battle. Is. A really tough. Colin I. It's one of those I can make a decision. I can't make a decision like because obviously high school today was very gun based but this so but then yeah, africom Reich but some. Psycho. Like for a lot of it, like her go to that. Okay. tough call. So I'm going to have to I'm going to have to say my vote for though would have to go to afro mainly because he's experienced like opponents with the with swords coming after before the most that psychosis outweighs is. Facing down hordes of zombies that have like their teeth in clause in everything else. So I'm not sure if she's fought with another someone with another sword I can't remember but from experience alone I'm GonNa have enough Okay. Let me think here I don't know Can my next one yet this year fourth one two. This is my third one. Rockabilly. And Oh? Yeah 'cause 'cause that's right. 'cause you went second I'm used to media made you pay who went I I know that's just goes I wanted to make sure that you didn't Martin I'm going to go to the battle where you've picked one of the characters I'm doing. psyched Emma. Versus tnn from a guy. From Dragon Ball. Sized over. Is it just because they're ball because Saitama Win I don't know man I don't know it's just counselor behind I really feel like I don't like I feel like you're basing this off lack of hair and nothing have events potential the both of them the. A zillion different creatures. Aliens. They fought humans. And they're both lay martial artists. There's more than just a lack of hair. There's like there's a precedent here the most fist fighters like. I honestly like let's just thinking back and looking at at. Technique wise. He has way more than sites. Well scientific has done. That's what. Exact saying that like you. The the after Midget, he site the most more limited in his arsenal of combat TNT. I'm sorry has more experience and I just think. Tank Him Fly Kim blindside. Does a lot here like can maneuver around and I honestly think just in general that versus. We don't know how strong today's he's. It's hard to cap it. But sorry I had this gut feeling that the dry new-ball universe is stronger in general than the one man universe I think is ridiculous to just pick. Saitama, MBA. Yeah. She can punch anyone and they'll die no being characters that he's punched in the Anime Dad Survived Okay and I remember in season one two was one character just punched me fell to the floor but the character didn't die you know and I just think in general it's not it's not impossible to give a fighting chance I. Don't know what do you think I think you have valid points where like yes to my has left some of his I'm just GonNa come victims alive but at the same time, let's let's give. Let's give sight to the benefit of the doubt. Let's say T N throws off his key blast flair. Moss. Lars for some reason can't touch him. Ultimate move is the key coho and with every use that weakens him that leg shuts him down almost the point of like if you use it enough, it will kill him. So his alternate move is a suicide move side to my has no such move like that. So if basically sites just walk through everything else which I have a high thought that he. Can he just has to wait for ten to literally kill him? So okay here's the thing about it. I think about it this way we just of like, let's compare the two universes like think of Saitama being able to like jump from the moon to like planet earth and we think he's super fast for that because they didn't like a couple of seconds, right? Can we agree that that is acquitted jumping speed he jumped he he made it back. Okay let's that's Saitama and we can agree that it's like superstar. Think about when Piccolo was a dragon ball Z destroyed. An sorry Mosey early say inside typical destroyed the moon right from birth. He's she shot a blast to destroy the moon right and Atlanta and a couple of seconds and he was able to like cheap up with like rats. At that point you know industrial attacks from Raddatz that was like Dragon. Ball. You know and we've had the freeze for that the cell saga the. Super where like was fighting god-like fighters in the tournament power like he? He is like on another level I really think drama universe is like so powerful that like when we introduce God's distractions and stuff like that, and then was recruited as one of the tenth strongest fires on from his universe like I really think that like just like thinking of his Kiko. A suicide move is like, yes sure. But that was against like I for a second sell online when he was not as strong as somebody as where he was compared to what is at now with like how how crazy like he was taking on punches from. From adult go home and super and was able to take him and like keep fighting. I. Just really think in general. Just has way more plus key is a way. So. Crazy and drag him although this. Potential techniques he could do with them with his ourselves. He can overwhelm a slight them I. Really. Being, able to take this, I might just not give in an enough credit because just like obviously when I'm watching Dragon Ball like I'm more focused on Goku or any of those others I don't really pay much attention to Yom Chen Tian like over in the background characters as much as I obviously should because from what you described yet does sound like he'd. Give fighting chance but at the same time I just for some reason, I might just be biased I can't separate the fact that like sites Emma would I wouldn't be able to somehow dodge a lot of these attacks like maybe get hit by one or two but like not show any damage cause he hardly ever has from like any other gods cereal lots. Man. I WANNA WANNA bust that right there like there's no gods your level. You know what I mean like ultimate powerful attacks that have hit this guy but he just kinda just. Like. Can I go home now? Wait then sending though is that those super powerful attacks that were like the he got hit with we're like at the level of his universe and I'm trying to tell you drug super is on a whole other plane of existence I think like with how powerful this is like we have characters who can destroy universes and stuff but yeah but you're not you're not gonNA give you're not gonNA throw like say say you throws Tian into one punch man's universe whereas like none of the Dragon Ball rolls apply it's just one patrols or if you throw sites into Dragon Ball Universe, none of the One punch man rules apply it's just dragon ball that's not fair to either fighter they fight in their own like what is Canon to them? Univer the. Fight with fighters from their universe and then they meet up and fighting a death battle. Right? He has more experience. But they have their universe rules of. have their fees from the university. We look at all you strong enough to do this. To do that, but like I'm just saying like look at who fights on a regular basis for since, who site to my fights on a regular basis Lewis Hudson grows learns get stronger. He's Marshall. Marshall Strain site them brawler. Okay. Like he's more refined and another thing that ten can use like a I'm sure could help is the multiform technique. All right. Let's not forget that he has a Jillian more techniques that we're like not even considering Dotan Ray like she has more in his arsenal and he has more experience and he he's fuss stronger characters than sites Emma site demise like very strong and he's able to take out. He's Joe character where he's able to take out these characters, his enemies in one punch but like if you take any of the characters that he's one punch against. Capacity One punch those characters as well because of how powerful has gotten at the point that he is enjoyable. Super plus the Mungo continues after that. So there's even more stuff from we haven't seen that I. Think. It's. Just, I just think like the when you see this battle, you see Saitama you see he's a one punch he's so powerful, but then you forget has done so much more and he's like on a different level of experiences with like the universe house the you're versus versus the One Punch universe that like these two against each other like Tian wins he just does I I can't see him not winning and I can't see me so I guess we're done great conversation. I. Want to keep going on this subject I love this and You're you're draining me here since? It's legitimately just because like when it comes to ten, I don't have enough information like like personally personal information 'cause a lot of what I'm hearing is I can hand and I don't doubt you at all. But at the same time, what's he and he says to me at least one of the characters I push in the back of my mind and don't pay attention to so that that's honestly all I'm basing this off. I have no doubt that he's done everything that you've said because you have no reason to lie to me and say this time with lose this out of the state of being bitter but like I. It's just just just to me sights sounds like he would. He would still win this but that's because I'm putting sites. I'm applying one hundred as. Like what I'm trying to understand here is like when you are looking at like when you're making your decision, right are you taking like what I said into account as like this? Can do this jake and do all those things. Are you saying he might be able to? So I think is GonNa win like what are you doing i? I'm honestly going back and forth between like what I think tha could actually handle, and whereas would have issues with some of these other monsters like size. Maybe, take more than one punch maybe to punch maybe even a kick but feel like he would still be able to take them down. So let's for for example here. Let's Okay. So you you know season two of one punch I don't. So you might know like more enemies site come up against that haven't gone down with one punch and that might be driving you're. Driving what you know more than what I know. So you might be right Tian might walk away with this one but with everyone that I've at least seen t n fight like I've seen him fight sal. I've seen him fight against boo I've seen them fight sell junior I've seen him a fight against a Napa of like I've seen him basically Z. More than I haven't super and he always goes down like every time but I'm I'm thinking that site smoke could take them down relatively but like I I guess what I'm trying to say here is like when you look at a drama super which I understand, you ever seen where we've gone over this has times. Is just like the tournament of power is like the cream of the crop fighters and he's fighting against like like God level characters and he's taking some of them out right? Like she drops early in the tournament power but he's still able to keep up with like those like Gao characters that I really don't see site my even standing a chance against right and. So. I guess what I'm saying is that. When I'm saying what? I'm saying those things and you like take that like makes it so. There's ver- very unlikely for him to win as well. I'm trying to say but like yeah, maybe maybe when I see a determine power myself finally, maybe I'll change my mind on this. Maybe I will agree with you and Saint John Wick, but with the information, I have enough. This is why I love podcasting 'cause like this is like this is what I live for. All right. Go Go. Sometimes sometimes, you can convince me other times. I stand my ground, but I never seem to no matter what. I'm just going to be doing now. Now I'm just going to send I'm just GONNA do no. I'm going to send you that clip just me going no one time and here lupus like every. Second happening in the PODCASTS. All right. So I'm cheating a little bit here but not really because you have accepted this as an animate even though in the world of many even even though it's animated like an anime who it is not an anime. Okay you're picking Picking by picking Zuko versus not so. I mean. Yeah. But that the Nazis I think this one is like a one like I know who wins already not to wins who do you think when's not such a stronger than? A human and not like I haven't seen fairytale but like I've seen like fights and fairytale and. Okay, keep up but go please go ahead. Let's not let's not just start. Let's start the argument after your explanation put so much to being a fire slayer wizard he has the ability to use basically fire spells and come up with different abilities around fire even eating other fire sources to increase his overall power. So say he finds it towards he'll eat a news dragon flaming war, which is basically fireball Jitsu, and basically it will be just like way more powerful he can eat his own flames but to him, they're not a stacey. Meanwhile, Zuko has the ability to control. And manipulate fire and dislike bendit around to as well. So I have just a feeling that fire attacks against the experienced suco wouldn't really do a whole lot because he's able to dispel them he's able to separate them and control and manipulate them. So when it comes to not having the firepower, Zuko has a backup being the Blue Spirit. He's also trained in hand to hand combat and dual sword-wielding. So He has other abilities to play off of here Nazi on the other hand like he can fight fist phys but a lot of his abilities deprive heavily on viral. All right. So just seeing that go back and forth like maybe not does get lucky in Atlanta fire blast on Zuko or maybe a zoo goes ability to control. Fire is more than enough for for Nazi, to handle and he comes through with comes through with swords and finally guts not sue. There's several ways that this can go. All depends on lake demand in control or supply and control. I guess like can not sue dish out more than enough than Zuko can handle or is not just going to underestimate tzoukatos ability to control fire, and then just completely lose it. It could go either way in my eyes but why why are you so have? has like more points. Does Not compared to anything that Zuko that's that's the the illustration I have in my head but the thing is I, haven't no. But like because he's an animator like just attack point of view it doesn't matter experience anything. It's just like the sheer willpower and just strength he possesses like what the hell how I get the Blue Spirit Cra- great. You put a mask on you've got to blades, but like Bro you're gonna Melt Bro you're GONNA belt we're GONNA do marshmallows Zuko that's what's going to happen I. don't see not sue losing I don't you also have Retail. So you don't know about magic. Limits you can run out of magic ability. You can run out of being able to use your spouse. You can drain yourself out Zuko on the other hand can't do that with fire. He literally has it until it's not around anymore he can even create it in snow like he's at a horrible disadvantage, but he can still create it from absolute nothing. It's air as long as he's in air or anything that can sustain oxygen, he can make fire. So the literally the only way is underwater, but not to can't use his fire underwater either. And like I said, Zuko can had a hand and actually fight. Again not so much and please tell me how Zuko because I really feel like you. Think's GonNa win this. That's like how you're. Arguing that's what it sounds to me right now apparently coming from the the Wiki here from the very wiki wiped out nine hundred, seventy, three soldiers that once destroyed the tower I've haven't. Lived in a large stone slab once shot a war God move faster than i. i- site melted calcium with his heat like please tell me how. Can. I don't a little ball Zuko. Zuko remains a human fire bender whose skilled but like he doesn't match not this is one of those like you know when taboo. there. Was it. Flash, versus quicksilver and everyone's like Oh. That's cool. We everyone knew flush was GonNa win like if you throw this one on their everyone's going to be a announcers GONNA win. That's what's going to happen I what I can't see with outwitting like he has mentioned. Seeing seeing the feeds as differently as they are from Avatar in fairytale I do I know I making the argument for Zuko to win but I'm but that's not what I actually believe. I do not to overwhelm Zuko but I wonder I wonder at least like say that Zuko has a fighting chance his abilities do create at least a chance for not sue but I do think that not will events going on one out of one hundred times because. He's know he was there. He stabbed him in the face and he died instantly. That's what that's what happened. That's how go was stabbed him in the face. That's it. Kale. I don't. mean. Blue. Wasn't assassin. So I kind of place that kind of. Thing. I I do I do I understand what you're saying like with how overpowered not sue is especially you know main character trope and everything else I do understand everything you're saying I just think that Zucca would at least be able to put up a fight but I do overall agree with you in saying that Nazi would probably walk away with the win. All right. I. Want to go to my next battle. Okay. This battle is not fist fighting. It's a battle of the brains for sure and this this might mark my words. This death battle will happen. It's just a matter of time I'm picking. This one's on the message boards everywhere this what needs to happen on talking about Lellouche for Yoga, me as. A great battle in the sense that these two characters compared all the time. These characters are argued about all the time and I, don't don't. I. Don't WanNa. Get too deep into the semantics obviously the power of Joss being able to look in the ice and tell them to do something and they works on them. Once if illusion is able to simply just look in the eyes and kill yourself. Lellouche wins and if light against the she demon Gami is writes down Lellouche Damer away light winds and can ended up in its is well, there's a lot more going on in the browns year that makes it a very convoluted. This would be this is probably one of those fights those propose and. Guys escort like we're going to spend like literally the rest of our lives trying to figure out who wins this but I just think. Overwhelmingly Lellouche most likely wins I know you're not fan but just in general just think about like this, the guy can see your name arrived on a piece of paper. The guy the other guy can look at you are your eyes until it to kill yourself who do you think? and. They're both very strategic. Who Do you think in general could win or is it a toss up? Honestly I gonNA say a tossup because. Actually well, if In order Okay. Let's say a lights accepts the the dove allies successive. The data's if he accepts insurances, lifespans does the name appear in people's heads immediately I'M GONNA have to give it to light because with him, you can see the name immediately and you can see it from a distance especially with how smart is plus everyone knows a name like in in his universe at least however when it comes to light, he's your average high school student by like no one ever pays any attention to and honestly light hardly looks people in the is like he'll look El is because he's going up against L. again here he's going up against Bush. But will lose house active right he has satisfied were active in order to actually use it. Meanwhile, lights is active passably it's active all the time like he doesn't have to do anything special other than accept the deal. So from what I understand from both characters in that aspect, if amusing, legitimately just their own special tools I'd have to go to light however, it will lose also trains military style like he can use guns, you can use weapons. So he would also have an advantage there whereas Melvin light doesn't have any of that too in the sense that like do think Lellouche would win in a sense of what light needs to do is like stalled the match to be able to like in the spot and get the is and get the name and ride. Steps to everything, right? Lellouche. Has He has this robot he can get into and everything. So I guess the robot, his face, it's harder to see to see him and the thing is Lellouche. Whereas a mask and I'm not sure if the rules say but I'm pretty sure if someone's face and wearing a mask. Kinda screwed. I'm pretty. Sure. Face. Well I thought I didn't name on head like. Can't think of their facebook writing down their name. So Oh, well, then fucking yeah we'll lose I didn't I didn't remember that. At. All again, not a fan of that. CARE Lellouche has. As a partner and lighthizer Euch. bucs board cryptic. Cut It helps a like a little bit but like. Devoted to bluish and his way more going to be able to help so. I think all right to give it to lose again. Don't really care about either series so I can't really give a detailed explanation. Like the member like. What you`re Kicked him but I'm GonNa have to give it to lose mainly for the. Lose more than like white anyway. I had a mobile battle. going. So my last fight has to do with John Mara that I absolutely love I haven't gotten a lot into any of the variety of storylines that they're in, but I love the idea of it. So here we go. The Genre is Mecca and I am picking Garon logon versus starlets Zia from Darlie in the Franks. Again, you have absolutely no idea what I'm speaking about Gordon log on. So the MAC from log on which is the title name and start let's From Darling in the Franks guard log on is a Mac that is into pieces. It's a torso and body piece alongside a head. So the body is called Laura on I think in the head is called Geron. So when their combined can actually operate macktaz, they have blasters, they have swords I think going log actually has a shield and starlets from darling the Franks is Favourite pink haired warned Girl Zero Two's Mac and I'm just saying that because like literally if you look at Arlington the Franks anywhere, you will find zero two and you remember exactly what she is or or what she looks like. And To in. Sorry. For back in order to operate starlets yet completely, she asked to be paired with her partner hero. So it has to have hero and zero to has jet powered boots a spear, basically ultra power red mode that like increases all of her feeds like. Three times over if that. Basically. Just a giant robot fighting a giant robot like there was nothing really all that special about either of them but it's just a giant fight I don't know why. But the the song raw bar Fai your favorite Martian was playing in my head has describing that that's Kind of. Kind of is would win. This is really tough for me to the hostile I. I'd like you just. GOING, logging. I'M GONNA go ahead please. Go had. ME. Personally. I'd have to give the win to start let's Ya and here's why if store Lucia is damaged and let's say like the cockpit gets damaged at all in hero dies in the Mac zero to not being heard percent human goes into a full on blood rage and she is one of the few of francs operators who can drive her Mac on her own and with euro dead. Instead of the you start, let's you like able to operate capacity like your actual standard. Francs, surly goes into like a wolf beast mode too where zero to is completely frantic and completely just ripping into anything in front of her. So with that bonus frenzy mode like she's completely unpredictable, he's completely unreadable. If she even like is able to Penn Gore log on down and just like tear into the head and the body I grown loggins done like I am going to have to give this one to start let's Ya if for anything for that failsafe intense, very intense. I guess I have to agree because. Like one of those. You know I don't know characters I also I. Mean you know them better and I'm looking at the wiki pages it's it's too hard to decipher. So I'M GONNA to simply agree I think I I will I will come clean here and say guard log on as much as I love it I haven't finished it so I could be missing some specs about the actual MEC itself but darling the Franks I have actually almost finished the entirety of the series so I've seen starlets yet number times the feats that sees achieved are way up there from what I've actually seen gone logon achieve. Then when I watched growing log on I'm mainly watch. But then again I was you can say you could you could play that way. Okay. Can I go to my final battle? Yup. Kind of a How can I say? I, pretty sure we all know who would win already. But just as one of those quick servers versus flash battles is because they're both. The way these characters lineup it's really cool. They are both. Like Eve evil characters, they're both major characters in their unique series. They're both lords they both have their own army they both go in a spaceship I'm talking about Lord burroughs versus. Freezer. Obviously, the ones I just thing from A. Say from a narrative point of view this like I feel like freeze. Lor boroughs like the mirror, each other and in many different ways. I mean turf told when me kill finally watched the one punch for the first time and made it to boroughs. We kind of looked at each other like that exactly can find. So obviously like we houses ones but now we we most commonly. Gold form of any was able to keep up with every single exe- fighter like we Piccolo Geeta Goku dot level characters and. Even, determine a power. Before the terminal power sorry. Assess these henchmen were higher to go over the freezer and use a Hawkeye which is gonNA destruction energy, and this is like you throw Hawkeye over on a building to billion. vaporizes just goes away and that's would like you something like a blue. Truck access to and one of the characters uses the attack on freezer and able to like. Close the attack back in and like not be killed by a gun of social energy. So we'll just like very, very powerful character, but then like, Lord boroughs is really cool and I just love. How strong he was versus. Sight to my any like he he put on an awesome fight like you just you put these two against each other and I could just see a great battle developing for sure. It'd be it would be a great fight. Especially, sons boroughs has that power up mode like just gain. You don't WanNa talk when I'm talking about right like when he buffs out. With him only having that one transformation and then freeze a having let let's give the benefit of the doubt. Freezes. Starts, form one. Like form one through three freezer. I feel like wouldn't be able to do a whole lot of quote unquote final form freezer would actually I feel like would be told us how the guy but then once freeze goes gold yellow now but that's A. Freezer win just because he lay overruns boroughs in every categories what I see. Yeah like power army size like this guy has the one spaceship that just like lands on one on one city in one punch man freeze on the other hand. Has An actual galactic awards working. Yeah. Okay. Obviously he's strong and it's fast. He does boroughs. Has a collective force behind him like he does maybe not as big, but it's still a collective force because. They gone for planned to plan to plan to destroy and everything, and it's like we've seen it happen before. The thing is like we've seen boroughs finding him. He's the here's an argument for Boris. Simo, Spungen and boss was able to regenerate right. Have, we seen freeze a fight someone who can regenerate and can. Like do e power attack powerful enough to defeat them give generate I think like freezer can not. Boroughs has been in space to dude you know it's not like. Okay. But the I'm trying to say is like, yeah, okay it's like it's not a complete wiping on the table because I like freezing we'll have to pull out like a death ball or something to. Like really destroy a boss and boys doesn't regenerate. He's going to have to go to the limit. I don't I don't think freezes. Freezing anyone to actually regenerate but he has fought people who have like resilient to damage to where like you have to do a metric ton of any attack ever to scratch on the guy. Like the but like this guy will will accept down regenerate. Yeah. But really you just have to output like faster than he can regenerate. Feel like they can actually do that in order for them to do. So he's going to have to like pull out one of his strongest attacks. Now, he's going to actually have to cry which would be like a death or something like adapt not. Or have, Guinea or have gone you body. That's definitely within the rows of their battle. Yeah. Right I. WanNa. See that happening. Back. I had rock Levers Decker cya versus Mubin light versus Lellouche sites versus Tian which t and Win Sight Boras Verses Freezer those were my picks. Go ahead hotshot what were your picks I I had sites tomorrow, versus say, Edward, our versus Momo Nazi versus Suco Afro Versus Psycho Ryan. Along The comments. Are, these vows GonNa Abbott are they worth it? What do you think? Who would who defeats who are we or wrong Ross dolls don't roast US whatever you like what go ahead or just Upside sorry to interrupt an just 'cause I'm curious guys. If we said any of these like if you're interested in any of them, let us know which one was your favorite I'm curious like what one would you guys out of these one actually. Mine. I think it's going to have to be late resolution but like a close second is rock levers deco but us but sizable versus just to prove you're. Saying I can't I can't. I can't choose again. Battle next five vows we got them for you. You're going to mind could. A final just ignore anything he says. If if anything if you were planning on doing any of these and we just so happened to talk about him, just both phone don't. All out and we're like okay I'll deal right now. Because, they've mentioned it. We're not going to do this. They just start scratching their whole projects. Yes. Okay. Okay. Let's wrap this thing. Otherwise just head. Over some, I'm just GONNA go ahead the artwork for podcasters provided by Gopro Keough. He's an amazing artist animator. 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Bringin' the Badassery: #RealTalk&#127897;in Real-time Season 2 Debut

"Hello all welcome to season to a real talk in real time. This is intro of the food for those of you who are new to the show greetings. I'm Jay Herman Writer Editor PODCAST and bad at three advocates on the girl behind the curtain of real talk central. I'm broadcasting team from Sunny Sarasota. Where like most of you? We're just easing back into reopening the seat. It's certainly been an interesting often. Anxiety fill time for sure but despite how bad things have been I personally found productivity and lots of resolve in a recent post I wrote nothing is set in stone. I about how the pandemic might be the best thing that's ever happened to me and I sincerely hope that. That's not insensitive to anyone basically. I'm taking two lessons away from my four weeks of quarantine and I know there are many of. You have been quarantined for a lot longer. But for me I definitely learned. Worry is not reality into putting unchecked faith in other people's businesses namely big corporations is futile. This time has taught me that nothing really. Nothing is certain and we shouldn't worry about things that we can't control more than that. I've learned that I have a lot more time to focus on building my empire then I really thought like I really gave a lot more weight to using time left over after working on everyone else's south and feeling like I didn't have enough time to work on my own shit and that's just not the case In addition to working on this podcast and talk blog on just days away from launching a new members only site for aspiring creative writers called the empowered soul project. I'm really excited about this. It's like it's been a long time thought that I just didn't do for no real good reason so if you're ready to gain bad as confidence and clarity to share stories be sure to check it out. 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Episode 56: Pray For Didi

The Short Porch

58:33 min | 2 years ago

Episode 56: Pray For Didi

"The. Todd, five ago, the body love these Aaron Boone, the Lido, his person of the. Out of the game. These. Just the first. The fortune ROY. What what happened? Welcome this of the thought porch. I'm your host hubs along some of the side of the laptop. Comey smokes. Tommy what's happened with up just to excited to have the CO tonight. It's been a crazy. Sunday was crazy Saturday as well. Just the, you know, I'm just that it was a good three end. 'cause the keys clint's was bad news. It's hard to do list. Also oughta really what you were doing was really the list. I was talking, I got it like mental problems. Only Jeffrey Dahmer from the ringer. Yeah, you should just got like drunk and anyone even had to try docu. I do not have all my God. I was. I do not have a list. I don't have one that was, you know, it's funny. Is it so hard to say the word lessees shell heart like you have a lisp. So arm. It's so I don't have all my God. It was the. I do not have a lisp. I do not get a lisp when I'm drunk. It was the phone. It was the connection in Cleveland. I've heard Cleveland turns you into a list. List person is this I don't know something in the air, but I don't have one. I'd never have never will. It's drunk thing. I do. My friends backed me up even though they were screaming in the background and they've played that. I mean waking up on Thurs when they do the pocket Wednesday night yet waiting making on Thursday, the hotel and getting all the shit on Twitter and then telling my friends and they, they just kept playing throughout the day at random points. Like we were out to lunch and he just played it. We were at the tailgate and they played it because it was just so funny and it was a miserable day, but and also took like I had to like, have some self reflection be like, wait, do we do this woman drunk. Like what's going on here. And then I no one's ever told me that. So it was it was the, I don't know, I'd is. You're hearing right now. You've been with me drugs. I'm not saying you normally have a list, but you don't know what type of phone would make, which is mix. Have a list like it was like a bad, have screen, anything have sprint, so that can do it. I don't know if that's look. It happens. You are just really drunk. You are slurring little and it was I, I mean, in retrospect, listening back, you had it basically from the gecko, but it didn't really sink in until whenever that eight minutes in whenever it is that I said something and then the rest of the time I just couldn't not hear it as funny. But yeah, I had it let mmediately it. Was that how you didn't notice from Surat? Don't know how to notice I, it was weird, but once I I heard it, I was like, Jesus also any better. Who do I remember I wasn't what was even like, really that drunk. I really like I ended up way when I was at was Wednesday night though. Yeah, I lost money on the night. I was very, I actually profit. I may look a hundred fifty bucks for the weekend, which is great. I played back up after the Browns game on Thursday and one, and I've never played back up before, but you just bend the player. We call Gary Gary Player of the golfer, but I've never played soccer. Yeah, I never had my friends love it. I don't know why that of craps is the one that's fun to play with a bunch of people crabs have never played before. I think there's lots of a super fun as the most profitable way, but obviously blackjack is my game, but and we were winning in that too. But no, I really wasn't like that. I mean, we definitely like that was that was the keys were destroying the Red Sox and then not destroy, but they were. They beat him up and. Ten one that there wasn't a lot I I have. I've actually discovered that I have the worst memory of all time like, can't do it. Like I, the only reason I I know all twenty five Yankees on the team is because like they're more hot now. No, I know, but now has forty like like the Packers like I have trouble like naming everyone on the roster and it's just because I just because I remember lots of things that's not a bad memory. I don't think I think very, very few football fans can all fifty three of the lakes. I'll have trout like like, it'll take me a few games to realize the entire offensive line. I have horrific. I can't process things in my brain for like like lots of loss of your mission. I could also be very stupid that that saying like, I can't process things in my brain is just like, tell your line. Okay. So let's kiss Yankee talk. We did not win the division shockingly. No, I'm just shocked. This is barely. It's been, we've known since early since since the Fenway series. It's been a foregone conversion. I'm gonna try and see what I actually lost Ono, why lost faith officially when they had their chance when they swept the raise in Tampa, that's when they had their chance. And then they came home. Remember correctly is tesla memory, but they had that home series against the White Sox and Tigers that that's the week, right that it was over because we could have cut it to five or four them. And then you ever got head to heads left's Boston had some tough game since the Indians come up the Astros, but when they lost that week week to the White Sox and Tigers I think they won. They went three and four something. Yeah, that's one. So, yeah, this is not the biggest shock control. Obviously, I did not want the Red Sox clinched home field in the almost of way doing it, which you've been massive for pry purposes and they were unable to do that. They did pull it out tonight. Which sucks. Yeah, I thought they were gonna win that game. We didn't. That wasn't part of the podcast on. A last week, but I mean fucking call heads, grand slam. Andy hits it. So perfectly that just cleared the right field fence. You knew everyone was so upset Boston over that in baseball dimensions. I don't know if we got to this, I think no, but I was cut off right at the very end. The dimensions yet we talk about that. We talked about the dimensions. There's something else you're getting caught enough cut off from, but we, we had a pretty. We added a decent discuss on the dimensions. Okay. But regardless it came up again in just like, I almost wish it this point for the rest of the time that every single Yankee Stadium home run that we hit. It just clears the fence because I want I want I want to rub it in like nothing would make it better than if we play the socks nail the s. and in games, three and four, like they hit balls just cleared. It would make me so happy because you know how bad it would make Jared, but so they were unable to win despite your calls home run the bullpen, failed miserably on Thursday night. Honestly, like couldn't have been worse. They just like whatever. Very, very flushing. When you're when you have this bubble, they just don't do well, but so they move on pled good against Baltimore, Friday, Saturday, Sunday today was pretty terrible. We'll get into the rest of the begin, but we address the big elf in the room. I mean, d Gorce injury is horrible. Honestly, almost throw up when I saw it win fucking from zip out of nowhere. Scroll through my time is the ice. Tweet from Bryant Hoke. Yeah, I was like, this, can't I like checking the date was like just like an old tweet or something like, where did this come from? Just I know idea and I haven't watched the press conference yet, but apparently Boone broke it by the way. She'll I'll tell you what happened. So in hoax, tweet words perfectly because he go by the one because so Boone is talking about the game so much on these game in how he didn't wanna use levers and whatever. And someone forgot who it was. I don't actually, there's no economic the voice, but someone asked him, why were you late to the press conference where you addressing the team? Because a letdown loss of Baltimore couldn't do it, but like, hey, let's get going for the rest of the the finish out the year. No, wasn't that. He said he was talking to people that Didi. And then the guy who has the question goes is DO k. and you goes while he actually torque Arledge in his wrist last night, and that's what he was out today. And it's a chance he might not be back for the rest of the year. Just drops that Trump's through Ricat agile. Being in the room. I probably just looking at each other like is this a practical joke sprays? -i and someone did say, like, I mean, he might have just found that that information like two minutes before the press conference. So most might not have been in check, but like you gotta leave art with that or something. You can't just have it. Can't drop it like that. Can't be he. He announced his. It wasn't big news and it's major news starting shortstop. We Twitter, major news. I mean, the judge injury was big too, but when you consider the timing of this, you could say that this is even bigger because Didi is d most clutch player on this team. You shouted in the last wildcard game, the huge run against the twins at the bottom of the first inning. He killed Cleveland, they I'm Mike confidence in the one game, playoff right now is pretty low. If without Devi it is astronomically. Look, I will say they can't survive at least the wildcard game without him, but they won't do anything to play where we are on the opposite side here where you're sort of moving inky past card and not knowing you're you're more confident in the wildcard game than you are in the AOL DS. 'cause I think it will be at home and I don't see them losing at home at that crap. I will. First of all, we don't know if it will because Yankees can't beat the Orioles. I think we have to go the oils. The go. Seven, oh, this week and we. And if we go four and three, they'll get anything like we go foreign three in these next seven, which is, I don't think that's a lot ask for split with Tampa and win two, three in Boston or three or four gas like you can find for Wednesday next seven, Boston's going full hard Tampa. You know, might be a little, let them they really like decide like, yeah, let's play spoiler fuck these guys. I don't know. I think like being eliminated from the wild card is gonna hurt them. I guess, technically they're stole tiebreaker. Yes, that's why seven. Four. Three were good. Are we goods seven known fourth? No, we're not good. Seven, four threes when as get it? Yes. So writer six in one. The Ke's can go foreign three. Rice big, go five and two. They're on the road for they are on the. They're on the road on the real quick. I think it's it's the angels. The angels coming up there at Seattle for three in at the angels for three say six games. So I see two losses there. Yeah, I think so. I don't think that's two losses means we can go fucking three and four. Yeah. So. I mean, I just want me they want today. I being terrible shape, but it they lost the Minnesota grand. Be nice if we swept him have, we'd have to almost be lock of at once day. But I mean, so back the DD the reason I get past them with the wildcard is, I mean, hetch area is going to, you know, he'd play short. Glacier, got a second, or they align up where possibly Walker would play second and glib, replay, short and relates in the later innings. You suffered hetch various short move, glare back the second. That's your offense. Defense lineup. If you just wanna go full defense, you start Danny their short. What would you prefer? I mean, we're offering the lineup, you want walk in. It's not like he's a liability at second or glaciers liability, New Yorker, short key. He can hit one out, like, you know, I had survery, whatever's name is we want to pronounce it. I, I don't think it's, I don't wanna just sacrifice that much offense for the defense when I think they'd be fine defensively their way. I agree. I'm not called item. Knock if they do not have if they do not have Didi for awhile CRA game, I'm giving them less than fifty percent chance of winning the game. Okay. So the the injury is to his right wrist. I guess it was jammed when he slid home, can we stop sliding headfirst home? It just never works out. It would jammed up. He didn't even realize until this morning. That's why like you see him celebrating after the game. Although I don't remember seeing him too much in the post game celebration for the quenching the playoffs. But he said in the morning was very sure. So they checked it out. I'm just gonna pull the quote isn't encouraging quote out there. I have some movement in there. They say, like they say these things like this happened other players. Some of them have played through. We're going to see how it goes. It feels better if it feels better, I'll be back in there so we can make that playoff decision. I would not want to sit out and watch that water game. He's up there high level optimism. He can return this year. I think he'll be back. I, I think I'm a little uneasy that it's the right wrist and that's throwing wrist and really no room d. h. him because that FOX up the outfield and stands pretty much got a d. h. or judge whatever they decide, it will be. It'll be sen- by. I mean, we'll see how he took a course on shots at ice will see Iraq's tomorrow on a lot more tomorrow big day. Yeah, he wakes up and he's still massive pain that will suck no doubt about corrobos texting on the side is very weird, like dead serious. Like he'll be back like I've had the same injury, blah, blah, blah. Knowing fuck about you had the same injury, he'll play through it. So you know that cards coming de camp, big play through it. And I in my sixth grade little neighbors league twelve in when I was twelve sick, the fucking man shared good for you. We will not do anything. The playoffs past Walker game without de grace case in point need the gotten a lot of this shorts, the feeling ability with the combination of his hitting having career year. He's twenty seven home runs on the year. It would be devastating one of our best that are, where are you? If you wanna save this relationship? A wildcard game lineup, Gary, Roman. We're saving that for later we're gonna get into that in like two topics. We're gonna do a whole while card line on roster starter. Do wanna get back to today, Boone decides the not use any of the important guys. So on Saturday, the bull was great, extends the games, extra innings allowed Hicks, the walk for the win in that game. We used pretty much everybody. We used Chad, green Chapman Batanes his Britain, holder and Canley all combined scoreless. The four hits total of struck at a billion people that is exactly. The formula we want for the playoffs. Dobbs didn't have that on Thursday, the socks. But today he pretty much the that everyone is unavailable aside from Canley. So happy of the spy innings. One run seven ks. He's got a lead for him three one who you bring in the sixth inning in pretty much every game playoff game at this point with how close the as our and obviously with with the as losing today, a win would have been massive. Like the season Ville. Right? He AJ Cole. Why are you doing so that he so bad? So bad is the worst. He's the worst pitcher we have on the team. I put Sesing over him white. It's almost eight since the start of August, he had a nice little run in may or June whenever it was I, I would hope that he does not pitch another meaningful inning this year. Oh, will you're wrong? He's going to. I don't think I, I mean, look when it's it's hopefully the keys by like Friday night of clinch the first wildcard, and then Sarah Sunday, Jake cultures throws eighteen innings. They just start a both games just don't take out, save everyone else, human sacrifice. Who is that guy in the Mets? Got the Mets who just let him go out here. Like fifteen runs in inning, and he just retired after the game. Like do that day. Jekyll. Just keep out there like you're not coming out until you. I'm saying that enough. So coal comes in how many out you think edgy Koga. I'm gonna guess between zero and a half, he got euro actually got zero hitting get one out, gives us a good fifteen pitches magic. Give three runs net span. You're fucking disaster gives to home runs. Finally, Boone takes him out brings in Canley. Kelly does give up a run, but you know what? Kelly started the inning which lead, but now that run with five, three fucking disaster. And then Sessoms in it says a actually was okay, three innings, one run, but still like you need these caves man, and you're throwing me cold canyon Sessa you mean to tell me holder, let me let me check pitch count from Saturday, like us. Wanna see what would what we're dealing with here, who couldn't have possibly I understand Chapman trying to eat him back in. Unless you're eating pitchers, which is, I don't know if you pull up ahead of me or two if you wanted also wanna see a bitch Friday real quick, so which we not go back to back here. Okay. So Britain would have been three in a row. Robinson, been free. Narrow Robertson would have been from six pitches on Friday. Batanes is through relevent on Friday. Okay. So. What second? So maybe say holder could have pitched again will certainly I think is available with the reclining yesterday juice fucking last week. I think holder could have given trad green for sure. Chad green eighteen pitches. I think he can give you another NSM Delon anistan Britain. But I think Robertson and Chad green at holder could easily been used for one inning each, I don't think is an Canley and he did use Canley. I agent Colin Sessa in in a two run baseball game is insane. And then yeah. Oh, that's just that's crazy to me. They don't make if they don't win the home field because of that fucking game at, that's just insane. God damnit that piss me off a lot. I just didn't make a lot of sense to me and just fair. On agent coal to what. Some because on EJ coal to. Yeah, you gotta get outs. I mean, you're majoring pitcher. Sheffield. Yeah, that's what I mean. I understand. You didn't call him up to like pitching the most meaningful spas. They really just call them up because might as well. But I mean, I can we pitch Justice, Sheffield, one of these innings. I don't think that's a. That's a few vanities gonna be working in the playoff roster? Yeah, even Tarpley I mean, and it sounds like Sonny gray was being saved because they might use him as an opener slash starter in when these games. Tampa. Which honestly sounds like a disaster. That sounds like a lost cause. But yeah, that pissed me off a lot at this meal. What silhouette Saturday night? Yankees, clench playoff spot. Where were you in terms of if they should have celebrated? You know how hard they should have already, would you? Would you think about it? I was, I flip flop throughout the whole day, started the day thinking that shouldn't have celebrated wait till you secure the home field, and then I decided. All right. Well, you don't know if you're gonna get that home field. You might as well. It's baseball. You celebrate. Everything. So you might as well just do it? Yeah. I mean as much as I wasn't ecstatic about it, like I get it, they had a celebrate because I was not one of the division. That's cool, right? And the first wildcard, you don't know if you're going to get, and then if you don't get any end up with the second wildcard, they needed to celebrate it all. It's a long season. They've won ninety five games. They're gonna be in the playoffs there in the ornaments. So I understand them reflecting on it. He's been a a rocky season and you want to celebrate. But me personally, I wasn't like, I'm usually glued to my TV for the the post game celebration because they all along culmination of I wasn't really feeling that way like it didn't see my. This is such an awesome celebration. I still feel like things are down. Dan, I don't just lose the division like basically two days prior and not feeling super confident with how they're playing right now. I wasn't like, hell. Hell, yeah. Hell yeah. This been such a great season. Let's all take take a minute and step back so, but I get it. I I understand why? Why did celery I do think it was reserved celebration. I don't think there were. I think a lot of the vets like you didn't see said about the it really at any of that, even Severino believe is off to the side. Not really doing much there were it was basically and hard labor really were the only ones celebrate those guys. News or it's time ever in the playoffs Carla Gallo. For sure, and I never problem with it and I think it was a quick one. I think the celebrations pretty much over before even thought it with, you know, like they were showing something else on. Yes. Before I even like really oh well, it's been like six minutes. Okay, so I think that's fine. If you're going to sell it begs the biggest thing to celebrate and disappointing last couple of months. But at the end of the day is team's gonna win close to one hundred Dame's and they had a lot of injuries and they're still when their full strength. They're just as good a chances. The next team to win the World Series south Naina Silva, however many wins they end up with. Let's say it's ninety. Nine ninety eight hundred nine out. I believe they will be like the worst ninety. Nine win team ever. Oh, without question. I mean it's whatever new and it's the same way as talking as for homecoming yesterday, I saw a friend of mine I used to work with is big Yankee fan base. He's saying the same thing. I don't know why, but it's just this team doesn't his don't do in a one game playoff through this twenty seventeen. He's twenty eighteen gang twenty seven to twenty eight twenty seventeen every single time even though they're end up winning eight less games. Yeah, I think there was a GM sentence. I don't know if I chose or not, but especially like I mean in terms of like momentum, do you believe in momentum heading into the playoffs? And it's like, yeah, have you ever fucking fifty fifty of five hundred two months heading into the playoffs rather than like winning. Seventy percent of games last month. Like I'm gonna take it seems totally believing momentum. I don't even care how many wins you have for the year. Who cares about? We didn't April and June and July when you had a rocky fucking August-September like, that's, that's really all it. Mad gotta get your hawk going him. That's why I kinda like like if one of those NL like the rocky, forget what the Rockies seems like those teams that are just like really gotten going lately, like the cardinals, those that they get in, like who knows dangerous teams and I, yeah, I worry about the Anki for sure, not having momentum and not having that spark that the that the seven hundred seventeen did. So yeah, it's not great. I do wanna pull up. Judge said something after the game, I was focused on Voight to. I wanted to see. I mean, active urban, celebrate. I I was reflecting back like that guy in June was was fighting for at bats in Saint Louis on a team that was not not time that time they were not good. So they weren't ground make the playoffs. They had to go on a tear to get to the point there in right now, but he's twenty seven years old. So at that point in your career, you have to think like my ever gonna get a chance here, like it's twenty seven like baseball players from the twenty seven like, you know, you pretty much know what you know what you're gonna do. The rest of your career. You're going to be like this, this guy full around teams, and you know, maybe gets a, you know, plays first base to the seven days a week, like at best. So it gets he's thinking and flesh for two months later, he's like the hottest in baseball is the most homers in last month in business key cog on an almost hundred win team. Yes, I wanna pull the quote real quick. Judge had a great judged who's like, I know what you're talking. I was a captain quote. It was very Catholic. I just I quote to so harm up pulled up, but it was very, it was a very well the, you knew like he, he took it well, like, did. Walk me. I was struggling these moments in life. This is an embarrassing this way. I mean, I guess they didn't tweet thought really thought he did really thought retweeted got Brennan Cody those hoped Judd said he pulled aside Luke void during the celebration quote, we wouldn't be in this position right now. If it wasn't for you, you coming over here. I know it was a slow start, but you picked it up and you picked us up. We needed the big hit. You came through for us. I mean, that's awes- magin hearing that from it's awesome, but it's just it's a long thing to say to somebody in the middle of champagne just pull. That's like, that's the. I mean, judge wasn't drunk, but Luke vitamin. But like that's like when you pull your best friend over the bar. Usually the bar. That's it. It's like, I love you, man. It's not like I love you may everything we've well, I guess sometime this kind of long like our guys like, can we go. Can we go drinking. Lovely boy, a heat, three who's three halted? I some, I didn't expect the c. show I got. Let's talk about next wildcard roster, which is sort of easier to predict because you can throw less starters on the roster and you know it's different from the aled. Yes, roster where you have to really narrow down because you have to bring on your starters too. But so I got here. We'll narrow down the twenty five. So I will start with our lineups. This is if DVD's play, and I think Dede will be playing. So I've got mccutchen and left judging right Didi shortstop, Stanton age. I've got void hitting fifth as the first baseman. I've got an Hartford base hits center. Gary, catching glared second. I feel like that's the right one. Yeah. I really question here is Gary hitting eight, which they did that on Saturday liked it. I think he deserves today. I think he's I've probably I would have Hicks leadoff. I think I was twenty behind that. Mccutchen just has a higher will be. That's really just went with, but I don't know because it's gonna be gets fires. You want the guy mccutchen owns fires. She want more bats. Oh, yeah, that's true. I was thinking too. Yeah. I just love Hicks in that. I mean what's so he's three sixty four on the air. I think the Yankees maccagnan's like four hundred overpaid. Yeah. I mean it's a smaller sample three sixty all on the ear Hicks. Cy three sixty nine to three sixty four. I'm just trying to, you know, cut since four twelve with the Anki. So I like, I don't know. I just like kicks more in. I didn't think about the fires, but yet you know what? If it's fires, I go mccutchen one. If it's anyone else I liked kicks. I for the Wiggins really haven't seen a cut in hit lower than liked third that this team or cleanup. Yeah. So feel like they're just the, I guess, I guess we'll change it. It's fires right of I'd probably put onto our of voy-. I still trust in more at this point. Okay. Narrate a, yeah, I'm I'm almost would put reminded I tweet over the weekend on you saw that. But I like pretty much gave up on Gary and I like wanted to take it back, but I'm like, and then 'cause he did get ahead today. And next any strikes like, you know what? No, this guy takes like he can't hit the minding one eighty two. It's not like there's it's if he was a great if he's a great hitter. He has been the past couple of years. You would be able to live with the bad defender. He was an average hitter this year. You'd be able to live with, you know, average defense, he's a bad hitter and a bad catcher. There is nothing to this objective war should be like negative ten this year. He's a bad hit right now. He's a bad catcher at you just know there's going to be passed, falls in the game. You know, two wild pitches that probably should just be passed bald, look, I understand he has that type ability where with one swing, he could change the gate me on his arm is the really the big. It's not even his his one swing, his arm. He does control more did throughout a guide today. I did read that Romans costly percents this year with Gary is like almost even so really not good. Yeah, I, I don't know. I end it just he's not. He's just not a great hit. The once wing to me doesn't make up for everything else because he just hasn't had that many big kits enroll mine with. If there's a an opportunity with runner in scoring position in one out or so much. That runner. I want Romana up there for sure. I want real mind up there instead of Gary. So it's I mean, Boone said it's going to be Gary. So it's. Conversation, but I honestly would consider I consider doing it roll much. Yeah, I think I think the decisions should be had. It's just just have. I've been the biggest, Gary guy like I've hung on everyone else pretty much fell off the cliff. And I just like on a something happened this week and I was like, fuck this. What are we doing? What happened. She's like, what are we? What are we doing here? Why are we forcing selves to just have these past balls? Like I understand that while if he does start, Gary will come out of that game late for romance. You likely won't have the pass while you're way like, I can't imagine Gary catching like Britain in the eighth. That's that's. Yeah, we're chatting with that. Just what had or you know the flu side of that is though if reminds start which again will. But if remind did start, you would have probably gallery coming off the bench lately, games for one hit run at that depending on the situation. Right? Yeah, it's Gary. So the, it's a new cover. People who are acting like urinating, you don't know baseball. If you want us to moment of the lineup urinate, I hate you. I hate your guts. If you think watch the gene that expe- people think they know like he's guys sticks. Tell me that it's not even discussion. You're an idiot. If you think that it's fine if you think Ari desert should start, I get that, but to sale at Google. Real goal is one of your more. Yeah. I mean, and also I didn't give up on him for his career. Like I've given up Greg birds career. I just. I just coming up on our screw either. Don't with him for this year. Like I'll see more done for him for the wild card game because it's such a y'all, a winner, go home situation like I don't want one passed ball, the siding, my season, so I just rather be safe and do Roma. That'd be just my guts. Also my line of them we just gave. That's what I think will happen. That's not what I would do by were their role. Mine will be hitting like eight or nine for sure, but this is not going to happen. Okay. So I guess we could do a lineup in case, so let's dis not playing nut game, then what do you do? So I want Walker in for him. They sliding up for the three hole. And you're up. I was just gonna say, I maybe Hicks. White looks enrich all the righties then I'd probably go mccutchen drudge. Hick Stanton, Andrew, heart Voy. Walker disclaimer hit lasted any line of you. You just like turning him over like that? Yeah. I mean, it's had success so, and it's not like there's going to be someone awful, awful, awful in the lineup that you need to have blow. Well, role mind would be that guy. Well, yeah, but he's not gonna be right. Okay, she would so, yeah. Okay. So we would go, we would go with the Walker glacier, short lineup, and then hetch of our coming in for defense later shifting, glare back the second. I think that's a consensus move. But so that's what we would do. If you ask me what will happen I had if DVD's out hatch will start short. I think they'll just secure there and they'll have Walker come off like a bat also bench had should be the starting shortstop in glee replay, second, not what I want, but I think that's what would happen. I think it's a possibility for sure, but. I don't know to me Walker Labor's is good enough defensively, okay. Chanel will go to to the wildcard roster. So we've named are nine, let's this will be the whole thing will be if DD spot, because I think that will be most likely thinks named are nine. How many starters do you put on that roster for the Welker games. Starting like started pitcher for once. I believe it's a different roster for the LDS like you can just. Yeah, yeah, recites right. So I probably go in before that Bill. That's actually do. Who is your walk charter right now wants to that. I'm so torn that Severino star changed everything. I know boy every that's all we wrote were we, I kept saying this said he has the ability to just leapfrog everyone with one good start like that. And it's been too good. Starts row. So capable of just imploding though, and he just got shell by Oakland in his last start. Yeah. I mean, part of me thinks that he may just like take is nuts and be like here it is. I'm still one of the best pitchers in baseball and just have that shutdown start, but we'll know in the marriage. You'll know. I mean, you could always just hope he has it in him and if not, you just make it a bullpen game. Zeyer it. I. Man, I'm probably going. It like just sound crazy to start Jay half over Severino this point, not at this point, but just like in general, like Jay, have the journeyman veteran lefting Severino's a electric. You know. Cy Young candidate last year hadn't Yorio under two for half the year this year and Tanakh. I was all I, I'm still all on Tanakh. I know he had a Beth Oregon's the Red Sox, but I don't think that's totally knocking out of it. I'm going to go. Is so hard. I'm staring. Part of me party makes it feel like at least he got that stinker out of the way against the Red Sox. I people that go, Allie starter. He can't pitch against Boston, will won't be Boston. I'm just saying he just in the LDS that would have. I don't know if I feel good about the thing is though if Chevron knows back, we all of a sudden have a plan for. It's like a pretty good for sure. You don't know. So is lined up for Friday. So he is. He is lined up to pitch that game to say, but technically everyone else because you would assume so Tanaka Reno. I don't remember. These objectives are pitching Tampa because it really so I think so. Sounds like sonny's gonna start tomorrow or at least Monday when you're hearing this and they're gonna look the push back everyone a day. I believe that's what's happening try counter like, or he starting to announce, where's my phone? If I'm looking? I see here at Severino tomorrow, but that wanna make sense. I think they would put great Amaro maybe. And then that way Severino would have a week. 'cause you're not gonna starts every note Amaro and then having weight of a week. Today's actually for the wild card game Tuesday's the day, they don't have anyone announce. So maybe seven is pitching Monday. That's, but he he if he pitches Monday than what he throw them out of the bullpen on Saturday, maybe and he starts Wednesday, I don't like that. Open. I also like having them wait nine days, right? Don't like that either. Yeah, I it's why thinks sunny, I think is gonna. I would think they do the bullpen thing where it's sunny, maybe that's why they were holding off everyone today from pitching one name of the trying to get them all in a Monday at it's not doesn't make me feel great. If you asked me who is going to start the game, like just predict it not who I want. It's gonna be Severino who want is hat. I want I wanna grumble pitcher who had can rely on whose pitch well against this team. He pitched he held a one hit in that in that started Oakland on he, you know, you're gonna get five. This excruciating 's only star the with the, he's Detroit, but they also c. j. half getting knocked around for life. Four runs items and it's like, wow, we just started Jay half over have well, that idea you don't really get that would Severino. It's like, okay, well, you pitch your best guy like, fuck you. Gotta go right ship a point. I get that half but side from one team. He. Struggles against his whole career. I mean, what is have done to make you think like he can get knocked around like that? He's going to give you five to six. Good. He's gone. I don't know. Maybe I go, I, it's tough. It really is tough. Try how many lefties to Oakland has time ahead, Chapman, Lowry. Larry, switch dread lower switches switches. Okay. Pretty Paul. Some lefties. Damn, yeah. Okay. Gun in my head is Chevron does start the game. I think he's gonna pitch well against in his starting Tampa, the as if he pitches well, Tampa like Boston locked. It's over like it will be. It'll be. I hope I just the decision is made easy by the end of this week, casing think on call today that decisions all ready made that he did Severino. I've seen that around too, but I don't know. Okay. So let's say Severna. Do you take another starter and the roster? Yeah, I would still take. So looking at last year is can at last year's thing before. So they had, let's see. They had. They only carry ten pitchers overall said Severino. Chad green Batanes his warring keenly gray Robertson chatman c. seen tree. So this is our rosters yet. Wildcard roster what startles I had written down here. By the way, the lions are just absolutely taking it to the New England Patriots right now. I don't know what. Routes, you bet the patriots lions first-quarter as lock. Quarter or quarters. No. Got Delon roll this. It's to Canley three Robertson four Britain, five green, six holder, seven than obviously to starter would be eight. You're gonna go one other starter just in case nine. And then I think you need a lefty in their aside Chapman. So I don't think they can take Sheffield right now, but heart so Tarpley I think they might take him just for the hell. And that will give you ten through starters, eight relievers. I'm probably putting Severino Tanakh at half all new all three. Yeah, I think so. Just to have them in case it goes, Casey run into a seventeen inning game or something. At least you have multiple guys that you feel somewhat comfortable in given disaster heavy, go to disaster. So I would go those three not now. No shots. No, that's funny. Delon Chapman Robertson keenly Britain. Green told her. So how many is that? How many pitchers that? That's ten? I think ten is the numbers that's that's what I. Yeah. Awesome. If anything they're likely to carry, eleven pitchers more than like, not. I think they'll carry ten to eleven. Okay. So let's say it's ten than you got the nine position players in the line of nineteen in need six more. Got remind Gardner yet, Walker head, chevelle area. I think Tyler Wade has to be on there for a pinch running opportunity. And do you Detroit. So wait. I'm trying to think so. We have nine for art to their room for one more. So this is a sumo is playing. This is swimming TD's plying. She of Ronnie possibility bird alleys, any chance of that hope not. I would hate that. Yeah, to raise I get burned. I could see if we're doing more of a prediction. I could see bird may be getting the nod just because they they want that one swing. That would be a disaster. I mean, I would get show drummed if he came up in a tough in like basis loaded spot in like thirteen dinning I would. I would drink all the high action. I think they're going to end up probably end up carrying eleven pitchers and then just good bring with guys on the bench. But you grew taller way though. Right? He's got to be there. Yeah, for the running head for the defense garner still has to be on just, oh, yeah, runner name armor replacement. Yeah, that'd be. I think that'd be stunning garden. It was on. Yeah. Fueled. Right lead, I guess. So, yeah. Yeah, probably a rat. I, I think maybe I may just carry eleven pitchers and then probably it's Tarpley. Eleventh. See, I guess. So. Okay. How many starters they keep on the roster last year. Did you say that three? There was three starter seven relievers last year. Okay. Okay. All right. We talk about that I would go. Yeah, I would go. I wouldn't go against. I wouldn't go against last year. So three starters, and then you're looking at, we really want two, three, four, five, six, seven, ten. I do eleven relievers, throw Tarpley in there as a lefty or Sheffield. I don't think you can put Sheffield on there. I mean, you're not gonna put those guys in. That's like an emergency slot and that any go five players on the bench. I think that's fine. I may put in like. Scraps that I put in CC over Tarpley. Oh yeah. This point. Yeah, I wasn't. I mean, for if we were gonna go to lefty, I'd rather go to CC than Tarpley outta. Sure. That'd be so weird. Men. She she's warming from the thirteenth. Inning crushed. All right. Let's go to send DM's this week's DMZ sponsor by stamps con. These days you can practically get everything you want on demand like our podcast. You can listen whenever you want. Whenever it's convenient for you. Conveniences, all what the world is about. You know your your, your food from the from your bed. I her Domino's Friday night, electric. You know, you can watch TV shows whatever you want, do whatever you want, the move, whatever stamps calms your you for that. All you need, which stamps you access all the services of the post office, right? Wherever you are wherever you are you by imprint, real US postage for any letter. Any package is available twenty four hours a day. Seven days a week. All you do is click print mail. 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No. I mean, maybe if they score this touchdown, it'll be plus one fifty. It's New England Patriots to comeback from everything. First question here from a JC on a scale one to ten, how how confident are you that the world that the wild card game will be played in the Bronx. Scale of one? Well, just percent. I'll say it's like a seventy percent chance gets playing Brooks. Okay. So you're gonna be way lower than that, then it'd be fifty fifty. I on the game itself. I'm going to be like fifty fifty on getting getting it like seventy percent chance just because even if that the eighties like. The Oakland catcher plus one twenty eight right now Apple's one thirty eight. Anyway, I'm actually gonna wait till the end of this. Dr. He should should help Detroit scores, and then you can get money I want or take a lot of spread. I would put it out. Yeah, like seventy five percent. If they had one today, that'd be up like eighty five ninety, but they didn't. Who would this is from Ben bell? Who would you want that next year? Britain or Robertson? I think this easy one. Easy Britain, yeah, rusty young younger, right. I would think so. Yeah. And just has been more dominant has been better this year. I think it's easy. It's just like, I just don't want to walk tight ropes anymore. I'm pretty cough more than it was gonna definitely call more. Yeah. I pay, they'll be fine. Paying money in this, don't you work? They're going to spend plenty of it. They will have plenty of my gives Akron a one year Provea deal to have him. Just go bananas at he'll wanna prove a deal to feel like he can t nosing get his off is value even higher. I think he's going to be a multi year deal. Believe in that. Yeah, maybe to to your deal. I just think he he's gonna year two for will. Now that's a lot. I don't know the market though. So. Thirty to thirty. I said, oh, q for thirty. Yeah. I mean, it's not my money we're spending. So Michael Pell says, do you think the fact that we don't have? This is the momentum question. We did that the fact we won't be momentum will impact this year absolately on e. momentum. And final question will be from Nick, Tompkins. I don't like Sanchez in line about all, but I understand the threat. However, why is the consistency avoid in? Why is he consistently ahead of voting laboring lot, I would bat Sanchez, less no reason have one your best in tours batting, lest yesterday's lineup Saturday's referring to a little better than it has been with Sanchez at eight, but still I would put Voight glaze over Hickson Sanchez z. saying, like, why isn't Sanchez's consistently eighth wise towards batting ninth I do like about a night. I like how he turns lineup over your show many hitters when this is a fully healthy lineup, that light, whoever's gonna hit. Ninth is going to be like, you know. Why is that cutting knife? But it's not like Shane Robinson is in the lineup anymore. So assuming he's artfully health. I mean, if like head survivor ends up in the lineup that he's probably ninth assuming they're fully healthy. Gleyber nine. He's had success theory turns the lineup over well, and I dunno, it's it's not in ninth for its eighth isn't a huge difference. So I have no problem with him knife. Yes, same. But with Gary, I think he should make. He deserves his and finding spark with them. Then we have an amazing or any eighth who figure it out. So he still dangerous centering for sure. But he's, he should not be taking up Voight or and harse spot or any of those guys hitting out of, you know he or Hicks. He should be below all of those people. He's he's a waste of spot if he's anywhere above those people right now, it's hard. But yeah, that's our show. So we got four in Tampa. God help us, please. Please just win towns of ours house of horrors win to you, win three of the great Neil. God damn good thing is Boston does no reason Boston's gonna like pitch their guys, I guess in that series, like we're like, go hard like no one's gonna, go deep in that game. So. Yeah, it's at least dot full of a week. None means. Oh, it's going to be just pray for DeeDee at this point. Pray that that man searched is some feeling in his hand when he wakes up and and he's able to do it, God. Damn, that sucks. That's that. Suck the here. I just can't believe boom broker the way he did. It's like, oh, you don't deal assuring of the year. Shooter this this, but let's reliance driving. All right. L. that log money long by the way, guess he's Mickley when I mean being that Browns and thank goodness, the first win. Hey, was I brought them the win. Utterly they have literally me and also. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I rooted for the Browns my my best friend Yemen going to go into polling territory and Rufa the jets. I don't any. I don't any allegiance to the jets. Fuck that. Is this fun being plus my. I mean my the jets fans, we're with got it. This rate, I mean, Browns fans are ruthless. People like drop the hard f-bomb at not the word. Fuck. When we walked in, like welcome to Cleveland blank, like their law. There are like, you would just you. So you would expect that from Browns fans. They're just miserable people like you're not gonna walk into a team. That's when one game in three years in have them be like, hey, how're you up onto our city? Opium joy your night? Yeah. That was actually someone in my hotel was the short porch that was so many so many, the elevator. I was like, what? Why raise here his a few people at a homecoming yesterday said that they were fans for homecoming, you guys will say Chevy. Have you ever been Cleveland? Yes. So the ankles there in twenty. Twelve. Okay. I might have mentioned this on Wednesday show, but I mean, there are I, I'm just convinced no one lives in Cleveland is show up the Browns games because walking around that city for all Wednesday and even Thursday, I, they just have so many buildings in hotels and just no way is enough people in that city that only cities like that though. Like I, I've been like, Houston, was I Houston last? I know whenever I wasn't. He Sten last. I thought the same thing, Dallas. I've thought that there so many cities like New York is the so so busy that ever else just feels empty. Gets her that dealt with now working in New York definitely, definitely has got that is just that Brown was rocking they have this, oh, h ozone, which I guess is in Ohio State song, and it is fire. It's just like decides, got such a good be to the place was just Ray of this. They do the dog pound bark. It was just, oh my God, what a one atmosphere. I probably said I never know Yankee playoff game. So in terms of atmosphere, style number one, sports atmosphere been like just people didn't know what to do with themselves, and it wasn't like after game. Like they let us outlet, those city on fire. But like ever they were a little reserve. Those Browns have no idea how to clear out a stadium. The Yankees don't know how to bring people into the stadium, but the Browns how how to let people out because his stupid lake, right the stadium. So like you can only go one direction. So I was graph edges, don't jump into the lake stuck. I was. I mean, if they have lost if they had lost that game, like, I'm sure that would suicides. But the fact. That dropped it. The fact that it took us like twenty five thirty minutes to just exit the air. Like we got out of the stadium, but walking to an area where like the weren't a lot of people took thirty minutes. We were just in standstill what walking traffic for twenty five thirty minutes. So like the bars filled up ships which went the casino and then we drank few bars. But like it wasn't like I was expecting respecting the city clue, not even know how to handle a win and just below itself up did not happen. So it's why I'm here. But overall good trip. I will not be traveling officiel feature because it is time to just lock in for the. I mean every game is a playoff game. At this point I be going Oakland if it's in Oakland, which would be horrifying. So let's pray. I'm read. I know on going roughing rally and that's that Friday, October fifth. So that would be if he's got passed up one Handke's Red Sox, which would suck to only be like half all in that. But yeah. Otherwise at sons growing you off Frankie cheeses on my own Thuc. Oh my God. I'm not thinking about that gives me already, but let's just hope it's in New York. So Dallas brain has come on here. I've had enough doubt spring Moee. That guy tries to me if every game we win, they win any. Actually, they gained like seven games in one day on us, and they're coming death, Dallas. I know the Oakland a.'s are here fucking tweet. Me every day said, hey, helps you up like we won the same could today, like I say, Dallas going to have to work that game regardless rate. No, I don't think so. As on. Sure. Yes. Our doesn't like broadcast a playoff. It will be like cribbing post game. Oh yeah. But like during the game hill, like she would sit with us. I don't wanna go to Oakland Oakland fucking up. I don't wanna deal with that and San Francisco in general, just bad vibes. All we need to. We need to win four games just win four games this week, and then make Oakland make Oakland go undefeated. So we have to win four. I dare you to go on the field. I really wish I didn't just say that like definitely wanted feed. Yep, that's our show. Pray dis. Okay. That was terrible. Will be back here on Friday. Hopefully talking about a sweep in Surat in the drop, but we definitely won't be. 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Episode 173: Luke Voit + NFL Draft Prep & Quarantine Life

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Episode 173: Luke Voit + NFL Draft Prep & Quarantine Life

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We should be out here like going fucking Brunch or watching a baseball game going to the bars like doing shit and it's like we can't. It just sucks. Where Lily Literally just aren't able to do anything and I hate it. It's not it's just I don't know man talk about. Asu got really depressed yesterday writing a blog and I forget what blog it was but by the end of the blog I I realized through at the end as a PS Mike Memorial Day. Weekends out like. We're just not going to have a moral memorial weekend is it felt fuck definitely out definitely out. I mean there's a state of the state. Homeowner in New York is through fifteen so memorial. Day's what ten days after out? There's no way it's going to be like a typical Memorial Day. We even if a miracle happened. It still wouldn't be the same. Well that's still not happening when you're going to be inside the Memorial Day weekend with nothing to watch a depressing. Start to the PODCAST. This isn't quite but we're going to build their way up because we do have luke void coming up which has been detached sit down. It's about an hour long shooting the Shit we talk. Nfl draft. We talk his injury. We talk How he's spending quarantine what he's watching great interview but On fact about was should've brought up to him axel was fake guests produced the first time he came to the office when I wasn't on. Yeah you were just the one I was like teaches. Pretend on the produce. A real quick. Let me listen abusive. Nothing much has his Mush Madison. It's ridiculous and we talk about it on the Pod if you're listening to this hopefully by now he's finished. I was GonNa say I feel like people? Listening right now are still going to be watching each something and this comes out on a Wednesday Thursday. And he's still going. I texted mushroom before something. Hey we should try and get luke like to watch tonight or something like that and the moment. He joins our zoom. He's like he just looks at Martin he goes like Mr. What was it. Three eighty four whenever Mr Three thirty three. Yeah he's been watching that athletes are at you'll like we're all like Scotman Pelt Jared Goff Luke Floyd. They're all tuning in the March Madness. Because that's all the sports. We got hit so sad sad whether they have to go through this. I can't let Tommy. I might have to just mail. You are because I can't look at your wall anymore dude right now. In New York City apartment should be we fucking for. I'm looking for a new apartment that they should be given. These should away like hotcakes. New apartment June first. So he's running back now. I want to get someone new this time to switch apartments. Are you guys all Lewis? You say let's see what could be a good time. Are you doing which spider and your other roommate? I don't know what spiders spiders always like might move to Jersey so I can gamble. He's always making up his he. Does I never know what's going to do? But at least be me and my other roommate and hopefully spider to spiders like with Dave every second of the day I feel. He can't live in Jersey. Yes he's going to be like Dave's Dave calls upon him. He's gotTa be there in ten minutes. If you can't do that for a couple out who knows. I don't think my leashes up till the end of the beginning of that time to move for sure but also like open. Get some good real estate deals. Yeah due to Europe trying to escape as well yeah. You're you're getting fucked by this. Yeah you're trying to really get out planning on June first moving somewhere right obviously has taken over every ASCA But yeah so I mean. There's little authors talk around the pot of how Manfred came out today and said that before too Speights baseball we talked about that on the planet. He has his own ideas. A little bit A little interesting take on it because like he doesn't think there's going to be a season he think it's going to be. He thinks is going to Florida and Arizona and I feel like a lot of it was good to hear a player like like I feel like candy was. Let's do whatever it is. The same thing looks just like yeah. I don't think that's going to happen to me this way. So that was just a little little spin on everything going on On on that we watched the Jordan. Doc would you think Jordan Duck? I mean for me like I mean for all of us obviously like Michael Jordan sort of like a more of like a folk figure than anything else that you don't. Obviously we don't remember playing or watching him. Play and awful took our us. What is a wizards players player to US right? Like I don't even remember that at all but like it took me two hours to be like Jordan. Probably was better than liberal like that. That's a debate like we can never way on really like opposite. We've only seen Lebron play but like just to see like the second year we dropped sixty points or whatever against the Celtics have playoff aimed like okay like this guy. You know pretty good. It was a battle. He agreed with the documentary. The day after Libron one is Championship in Cleveland. That's when he said would document. That's why I wrote that blog. Yeah so. Espn dropped at story of how he only agreed to the documentary because Adam Silver was the director of MBA entertainment time. Basically like the guy who would try and spice up the NBA with like behind the scene stuff and they knew this is going to be his last year in Chicago and they were on the NBA. No one thought he would come back and he got Phil. Jackson agree as long as like they could have some closed-door things every now and then Jordan only agreed if Jordan had full power on when the documentary came out and for just twenty years Jordan said no spike. Lee asked to do it during the fuck Outta here. Danny Devito didn't even he didn't take meetings with these people. Never mind sit down with them and then all of a sudden this guy I think his name is Mike Tomlin and he's been behind coach Carter and of Varsity Blues a few other things he he security meeting behind the scenes with Jordan's People Jordan. Other meeting was happening. He kind of just showed up in the middle of a draft draft prep whatever and sat down with him the his important people Jordan. They knew this had to happen. Like the doctor had to come out and it happened to be the day of the Lebron created with Cleveland. So like you could tell Jordan was feeling a little like you know like out of the picture a little bit and we'll come back and just very thing that sold him was the he was like big booklet of the planet. All that last page is all things. He's been accredited for this. Drug is producer and The Iverson documentaries one of them Jordan stopping stress goes you did this and basically Jordan. I cried darkness. I watched it three times and he'd basically went over to ramp. That shook his hand. He said let's do it. That's pretty cool. The whole like backstories bury. That's stuff fascinates me that like you don't know you never hear about that. It's also pretty hard to mess up Michael Jordan Documentary Kazaa fucking goodies. There's one like sixty second montage of him playing and it's just like make believe what he was doing like. He hangs in the air for like one of the perfect. Yeah like the Dunkin Shit when he hit his head on the backboard while his neck on the bachelor. Jackie wasn't even his head his neck. Fucking insane I mean you went to a shitty school but besides that it's pretty cool Yeah so I guess that's forward to every Sunday with two hours. That but Right now you're GONNA have Luke Boycott Documentary Luke. Boyd interview He's at Dallas the second time on the show always good here in front of them. We shoot the shit with him So right now go check out boy entrepreneur. We lock him in the starting first Baseman for the New York. Yankees number fifty nine voight Lucozzi gone wrong. Boys tri-state saying Obviously Missing Ball. Hopefully get out there soon. Now just trying to stay in the best shape and get shit done around the house honestly. I signed being home since my senior high school. Are you driving your wife Insane yet? Or is she like belt? I'll get my video game fixing she'll go read and you gotta like Split Up. A little bit is Bannon was. You can't be together the whole time. You GotTa have your man pretty good. I got lucky but hey yeah there's still some time we're really some alone time in our dog's going. What the hell. She's used to stand in New York in a small right now. She's getting Back Yard. Run around so she's vulgar. What is your like routine going right now. I've been just working out every morning Working out five days a week You know outside that. I haven't really swung of kind of just taking it a little easier. Obviously with me having a hernia surgery. I wanted to you know kind of live with myself. There's no point in Russia in. Nfc like we're going to. I'm going to start prior rampant up here in the next week or two You know it's hidden in doing ground ball stuff You not doing much. Speed Agility Everything so the most party who thinks feeling really good It sucks because I felt like a good win at the kind of towards the end of Spring Training. We got shut down but I feel like I gotta get routine to get myself back on track in all ready for no one ever. We're going to play. Your this is exhausting. Is Awesome being that big like? I'm being sausage working out that much. Yeah when you're doing pause the apple two hundred fifty pounds in dude night as I think about working out a little bit of Sopranos. Eat some chips. It's a lot better down. I have an iron thought. I was going to keep up with my Iron Jim. I just gave up on it almost immediately so my my body is has gone to nothing. But how how much like the Yankee training staff and coach has been checking in with your check in like every day every few days. How activists communication are trainers? Have Been sexiness a couple times a week making sure you know. Obviously we're not sick. You know or feeling you're able to at least get a workout sand and you know I've been talking about hitting coaches little bit pry you three or four times a month. You know. It's kind of weekly. Thank you know checking up and making sure all the boys doing good staying healthy so it's been a good. We have good staff know. They're making sure all the boys are ready to go. And it's the addition of Eric. Cressey been like is he tried to give you A. Hey maybe like you do a little tinkering things or is he let you do your own? He's been awesome. He's you know very very At good at what? He does and very informative. And what you need now. That's what's great is he's making everybody's workouts for the Individual. Not Everybody's doing the same thing in is very functional And it's very strange building. Souks where you know. Here's impressed with what I got from after my three on semi sports hernia. And No. He's a he was. Let me do a lot of what I've been doing in the offseason. To keep you know my movements in tacking he come down on run though sales and a very happy about my form is now is the one thing I couldn't do when I was going back injury with Iran. It was a couldn't get. I'm not saying I'm a I'm a burner but I couldn't get to that that top speed in fourth year. I guess you'd says So he's he's been he's very good at your running form technique and making sure that everything's working as one unit which is something. I obviously needed after coming up. So do you feel like you're I mean you did say you were in the best shape of your life? You'd feel like him. Coming into play here is going to help you really like it. Peak for strength coaches have been great to in their right. You know speaking the same language. So it's we have three guys wash they can show we're doing the right stuff and now I fell back. You know. It's the first time. Get Opportunity and it got shut down real quick but I know those guys will be ready to go when we get back up and they'll make sure on. The voice was saying healthy for the harmony games under percents So you're around the house now. All the time were you and your wife watching binging. What's the best and worst thing you've watched during quarantine on TV Watched locking key. Which was really good. It's Kinda got a stranger things. I've got different We're actually watching a man in the high tower right now which I didn't even realize at four seasons but it's just an interesting you know. I- away to put up a show because people on TV shows right now watch the office. I'm kind of like the old man I we've been watching so much stuff She's got all these shows called like. This show called younger on Hulu. That's awful but at the same time so just started succession because WHO's got. Hbo Now for free. I didn't know that but successions on their sub starting that and but do not watch this. Show this movie on. Net flicks with Don't watch too. It's GonNa come up on your top ten the worst ever watch. It's about time travel. It's I don't I don't know Charlotte neither did it. Just come out just came out and it's like when those come out and like. Oh this could be fun like a new one where it's ninety minutes it was definitively and I like a lot of movies. I mean Lamont on his never in a good movie but it's always like when she's in a movie that's a bad sign it's called. It was so bad. I need to warn you guys right now. Love Wedding repeat. Do Not Watch. That movie added that to my list over the weekend. I was like this. Looks like a great romantic comedy. Right up my alley right now. It's just a one wedding and they redo its like managed point meets a wedding. I don't know if you've seen vantage point but like that movie is awesome but it's with a wedding. It's so bad I was so mad at myself that I wasted ninety minutes with. It is a a man now. Maccabi able to watch out looking forward with Mark Wahlberg one value. That was a good movie. I haven't watched. It just came out. It came out like three weeks ago. Probably one with Post loan may these data for like five seconds. But okay okay. I caught shooter last night. That was on that movie. Every single time must watch marquis marks. It's stopped after that I tell you guys. I was on a a history channel show. It's the real thing about the real thing about stranger things training. Bro. It's always on a show before where I was on the show. It was like. Are they hold? Things called the dark files. They like took kids off the street and made them into like their own fucking aliens. Shit I was one of the kids I watched. That tonight reminisced the glory days. I guess a little bit. I was an unbelievable acted. You have any lines not seen. I looked into the cabin. I got whiplash. I was like this. It was honestly people are talking about ask but I let you guys see. Did you know that? He used to work for counter-terrorism. No and now you're you're you're banging pots and pans explained to him. Wow do counter-terrorism. Yeah well yeah. That was one of my Jowzjan florist. Before and then I was counter-terrorism I would go to like businesses and schools and Shit and just like talk about active shooters. You Imagine. What three different jobs? You've had how you gamble Your Life Way. It's good it's a big number danceable wherever. I go your community Mardi man. He's all about business right now. Brings you the word more terrorist attacks while you're at c? T. I mean the I I went there. I see. There's no address for counterterrorism. I couldn't find the place I was like. We'll give me the address like we can't have an address for you so I'll talk You mentioned before we went live. Luke that even watching Marty's Mush Moghadam You're just like you're all in at this point. It's just like is that basically sports for you thank you. Nfl draft this weekend. We get some to watch lane. Who who's your who's your top top. Three you got borough chased To like as as Simmons. I'm a giants fan. I want them to get is. Am thought they're going to draft offensive tackle trade back. Yeah what about? What is the quarterback from Ohio state including? Yeah I like him too. I don't like yeah. This year's top chance like pre legit. I don't think you can go wrong with any of those guys. Yeah honestly I think the giants in like other teams are just fucking around like saying they're talking to Herbert and everything was just about to say that did come on. I hope to God because I'll lose it if they do. Take Herbert because we just got one by hope. They're just saying it's so like somebody before the X. Alliance hoping like the Lions think like I don't know I just if they'd take Herbert. I'M GONNA lose my mind. There's no other I mean. They've got him in his stupid but I don't think he's I think Herbert's like atrocious. Like I don't want any part of him at all at any like I wouldn't take him. In the first three rounds like quiche chose me nothing same. What Jalen hurts. I hear way too much. Jalen hurts Jalen hurts is just not good Corbett Bro he. I don't even think receiver in the NFL. I he just needs to be a coach high school or something. He's awesome teaming give him that. Qb He's just an awesome. God have around strong book but and he can. You can probably use him in like goal-line packages like to take take the ball. Enough like wildcats shirt. I could see that working. He's not fucking starting quarterback and people talk about him going in the first round. Yeah you saw it on the Clemson game. He was off on the Clemson game. And in that Clemson defense by six guys get drafted on it right so Roost but you gotta learn to get a read coverage demanded quarterback especially in the NFL. You're there and you're on you're screwed. You couldn't even do anything. Baylor's how the Hell's GonNa do anything in the NFL you. I was looking back at his steps and the ear against Tcu. He was like eleven for twenty one. That's not good big twelve all. He put up numbers. Anyone could put on number against three quarters of the teams in the big twelve when you have especially CD. Land the frozen. So let's relax with the number I had enough of the jalen hurts stuff. I don't need your anymore. I don't even know packers are thirty. I don't even know I wanna I wanNA wide receiver really badly In for up to me I would trade up and get a receiver but I love the Chenault guy from Colorado. He is incredible. I want anything to do with him. And Justin Jefferson from Lsu. -Spense happens if someone has been Wifi. They're crazy yesterday. I thing they crashed. Then they're talking about people hacking it off all know to happen. I need Roger. Goodell's is freaking out like this way. We were just talking in my group John. My Buddies Ryan Pace the bears. Gm He has seven monitors and accord running from his router. Downstairs to set up to make sure Internet running smoothly. He noted that a Hiccup. The other day happened when his wife vacuum accidentally unplugged as monitors. Low Power Outage Zone. Goes and toasts something Yeah like I mean like the odds of weather cooperated like these people are just going to be one thunderstorm. Where someone's going to be some rain is going to happen. I think. Also there's going to be a moment where like in fantasy book all you can always that one astle whose not paying attention and you've got drafted and then someone's GonNa take a guy and they're like no. He just went five weeks ago. That's going to happen because no one's GonNa know what's going on or teams are going to have like auto draft set up like Santa Cadet like in case there Internet goes. It's GonNa be finished. Football IS FOOTBALL. This is going to be chaos spicy. We need it. We need it so badly. Oughta be sitting there watching it so I hope. Hope some crazy happens. Yeah it was so nice to have like the MJ documentary Sunday. Like everyone washing the same thing. Tweeting about the same thing to start like. Sports is back like a little bit definitely. Yeah it's gon everybody's watching it and are you. Are you obviously? You'RE A giant football guy. But are you into basketball? I did. I used to be so big into basketball. We have fantasy basketball league or NBA Basketball College. And then once I left like college I got away from on a big basketball fan now soon as stay smell modern but I got away from me man. I'm not a big indies anymore. Slut like did the documentary. Pique your interest that you watch that. Yeah no and that's up school but I I just can't it's to the NBA is. I don't know there's like six good teams then. It's everybody else wants to finals. That's all I need to watch on the same way you you get one every game gamble on it but I mean that's the only reason why I watch it. I'll gamble on the Lakers game at ten. The bail me out from the from the whole day. I just had like knowledge basketball. I watch all dead. It's just like bet on the Hawaii game on Saturdays. Every single Hawaii up at three in the morning watching it spread six and a half months. Not Sleep is hit. I'll even watch tennis. I wake up for the Australian Open. The Kenneth Love the whole tennis but I got finished because I was gambling in college on it. Like I wasn't a tennis guy like I. How do I watch? And it's I don't know how you do. I can't do awesome okay. It's guessing hubs. His favorite athlete of all time is now one eighty one better. Yeah Yeah Derrick. Derrick him but territories retired so like current guy is sped like a waiting. That's what you offer that euro. Listen everyone thinks differently. Okay I like just because I watch cricket at three. Am doesn't mean. I'm a big cricket fan. That's just what I need to better your watch people whack a ball and it's boring shit not pretty awesome Bam gambling. You have a lot of fun doing it. I had a kid. I went to high school with that has in there. It was from South Africa and his dad was a huge rugby fan. Your watch rugby live. I don't get it either but just beaten the snot at each other. Then they get in that. Scarola may call yes. There was a point right when quarantine happened like chew weeks in or my buddy had money on a rugby game. He had no idea what he took but he saw that it was happening and he watched for an hour and just had no idea what the point system was and how he was getting points they claim never stops the Baldur's always reset. Somehow they start kicking it forward randomly and the growing H. I don't know who set those rules but it air soccer and football together and alcohol. Everyone's drunk tickets all modes in a lot of times on your instagram Corinthian you're bragging about your grill your grill working all that. What's your favorite thing? The Grill steaks. What kind of cut saying your strip all day every day but also makes it fly or I mean I'll make anything but how long you leave it on the ones I've been buying from COSCO DUDE. I've been liked by therefore if it's four or five inches thick sometimes. We'll take like eight minutes aside for Salmon Medium Rare Guy All do bloody but got. I'll take some sometimes often. It's like I didn't even cook it on their on. My God damn taking forever because usually it's like five minutes aside but the ones that keep buying her franken technically over but Dan they're good. Do you think you're a better grill master baseball bar. What a question. He gets the stories every day cook. Hopefully I'll be just. I need help cooking steaks so I might have to. Kim Seasoning Salt and pepper. You have a special sauce Yeah Crack Crack Pepper and a lot of pepper and then Garlic salt out. He saw tougher to and then obviously Obviously covering olive oil as honestly the easiest way to do it in the best way to do it. I don't like people put marinates and stuff on it. There is a marinade. I use that I'll sit. I'll sit in there for like six hours and then I'll coat it when I flip sides that's really good too so it's a saint. Louis Sauce getting really hungry for steak right now. I feel like the trend has been we talked to Canley. Auto Vino Recently during quarantine their wives are cooking Like breakfast and lunch with them and they're taking over for dinner. Is that kind of how it goes for you. I make the same breakfast every morning. My wife will sometimes sometimes Five eggs every morning and then We usually leftovers for lunch unless we pick up something on the way home. I'm just a half Acre. Just WAIT NO ACRES. Hager's eggs do you have. We can only buy one right now. You can only store all the time five exit time. It's unbelievable I did. I've been doing it since I was like ten. Plus a scramble depends on feeling sometimes if I have like steak. Leftover all the rest of the state for soil by six breakfasts. I've been having chocolate chip waffles. That's where like every other day. It's chocolate waffles or French toast because I live with my back home my mom. So I'm taking advantage of Shit until I knew that I would be three hundred fifty pounds. I have lost one pound during quarantine. How about that? That was eight Lebanese nice cream for breakfast and ship. What can US guys food? Because I'm living I'm living in this New York City without my parents. I'm eating yogurt for breakfast. Don't lunch peanut Butter Jelly for twenty eight straight days for lunch. Like all women all right. Now there's a lot of guys in baseball that's like a superstition eight. Pj's before Games really but you know twenty eighth straight day. I May. Maybe this'll be my ticket to league. What's the weirdest superstition you've come across when I was in? Aa Agai were a diaper for like a week straight as like a slump buster. Yup I love. I mean got himself during the game. You'll yeah and he is a very good player in baseball right now to even more plant with big Salim. No He's not on the Yankees down. That's something I was just. I'm looking at all this right now. And Tommy someone complaining about everything. Just look at his plane wall he just looks the same sound Jersey in the background. I got a window. Moshe bled under the blankets. You couldn't get out of bed for the blanket. No because my roommate isn't right we we have a kitchen in natural. My roommate is the blankets for Peter. Chilies cold I don't have if we'RE BEING HONEST. I don't have any pants on and I don't run out so I gotTA cover myself on the boy. Oh my God this is just up. It doesn't matter they. You call the same thing they've gone. Tv Right now. And they're they're sued out there. The boxers also. It's a boss. There was a Florida shown Florida. They're holding their court hearings to resume like this and the judge yelled at everyone because they're in like their bikinis and they're in bed just like Tommy. Those people are lawyers. And we're doing a podcast when I saw You've played with John. Daly was unbelievable. I can't describe it Did are you big Golfer. Yeah played like five or six times. I've actually starting to get a little better. Exactly the play. His Missouri courses are still open so But Yeah I'm and IT'S I. I have a baseball swing but I'm figured out that can hit the ball mile but sometimes not straight and I'll put myself you know one hundred yards out in all. Hit it off the drive right. No actually I don't anymore I used to do but I turned my head a little bit so I always have to fit into that. I played baseball and also his first basement was waived so obviously way better than you are as you are ready like. I'd probably I think you've put me at first right now. I'm just better than you. Everywhere be cracking smile. I'll just waiting for what you said wasn't even coherent. Oh I know cause. He's scared me. He looks he looks scary and big. This is like when you told them that they should put walls on the oceans and he just thought you never gonNA speak a word to again. He hates me he tells. Talk Man Yeah he told talk man and you know you know I mean. He liked the most like Siri like he thinks everything through showed the dead series every time and he goes Mike. You ever think about putting like giant walls in front of the ocean so the water can ever get to us and like it was just utter silence in our Hotel Room for like twenty seconds locker to what we just experienced. Did you guys know? Miami's never got to a hundred degrees crazy. What you've never been to one hundred degrees you think. That's insane by Sunday Is that just because humidity makes it feel like it's one hundred twenty? Yeah I guess so. Once I heard I was like there's no chance I looked it up. Its highest bid. It was like ninety. I plan to Florida State League in at least all Florida teams and it was one hundred twenty every day down there. Yoga go past Jupiter. So I guess which doesn't make any sense I know. Hey Jacksonville is west of South America. Now we're just throwing out all what the cravings want watching Discovery Channel Mart due to. Detroit is the craziest one. I think yes. Now what did you say? -LANTA is west of Detroit. Yeah I see that though I would never think that yeah I will say I have gone to pick with weather. People wind chill and like humidity. Whatever that is is the temperature. Don't like it's five degrees. It's thirty miles of wind ups. I took it actually feels like negative. Ten negative tender. Yeah agree politically wrong. So who knows if I put my hand out the window and it feels like native native ten right all right hope. You're enjoying this interview with Luke. Lloyd Talk Real Quick About Dunkin Coffee Dunkin. Want you to remind Dunkin wants to remind you that we're all in this together. Which is why they've delivered. Forty thousand gift cards to medical workers at one hundred fifty seven hospitals across the country and counting. Just an incredible job by Doug over here Suspended hero you know a little. Thanks and treat them to a coffee break with dunkin' e Gift Card Visit Dunkin Coffee Break Dot COM D. U. N. K. I. N. C. O. F. F. E. E. B. R. E. 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That guy doesn't have any social media and God bless them for that. We finally got him on the pond and was just everything you could ever ask for more craziest parts of me. Though is that he streams he was streaming on twitch with like judge and Wade and Britain for like five people. Five people watching him he just streaming that's time Catalina nutshell loves it. He literally is obsessed with Games. He loves it and he like. I had a problem with my place nations He walked me like through the whole process. What had to do customer support? I mean he's so with it he's like he just he's a he's like a six thick-headed I am. He's like when it comes to video games. Like if you fuck with this video game or even like talk shit about his video games up your ass I will fucking like feature s because he like obsessed with him. I walked off on him and he was pitching themselves so that was cool. He was not happy about that moment but he sent me a friend request. Let's fucking go. What kind of games are you into? I think what are they? Your big man obviously right. I'm fucking terrible though. I'm outside of me being a computer. I haven't beat any of the ONATE for Ciller placards. Did you jump events? We're talking shit that you're not the meeting yesterday. Did you not show up? I showed up. I mixed up the Times. I had forgot who was like central time reducing time I would ever Gotcha got there. I lost my first two. I had three first draft accentuated. Tommy McCaffrey to what did you turn the lights off. Did you see the Fox going on? It would be the drafts. There's life behind you goal power. I think that there's like a fucking hurricane outside. I don't shut off yeah. There was no lights on the outside life. Oh I don't like got so you're you're going to die? I'm just as well. Yeah when you try to McCaffrey for like nothing because the what Canley said you just throw the ball right? Yeah I am I I. Six Games had twenty nine six years. Coma God you have. All the bad in is so hard you want like. I'll have Sammy Watkins and Emmanuel Sanders. And I'll throw this ball is somehow to get deflected free times inaugural ticket and I'll throw a one on one and in the DB one hands it and fucking pick six. Is it like I? Don't get it to me walking shit. It's impossible to throw deep. He has to be wide open. No wide receiver. Madame has ever won a one on one battle for a ball. No you're right. Open five guys. Tackle you within like your first half after you catch the ball to joke. It is so hard while I'm talking shipped likely to selling Sammy. Watkins can't get shit. I Love Matt Employees. You played football like are you able to read the defenses and all that I'm trying to is like is like when I see like like the routes are Out there and like I kinda hot route one like I know which one I got it too and I'm like Oh Shit Oh shit. He's got three guys on that. I panic approach. Someone else at six. I'm trying I'm trying to get better at it. Pretty good but yeah. That would that should help. Have you placed Turnovers have you. Have you played the show? No I haven't You're pretty they made you pretty shoot up in that game like almost any time surprise humps. No enticing him to get better than baseball just trying to get me I on the chopping block here now but I would say anytime. Canley uses you in the show. He hits a home run like almost every time. It's a said he sent me an Hicks. He kills it with like a hundred with Labor. He can't he's like thinking about moving glacier to like the seven whole or something he just can't do anything he doesn't want to insult glacier but like is nothing you can do at that point. That's me. Giancarlo Giancarlo crabs the plate. You just can't anything you throw junk realm you cannot say I have been in our league for Borstal. I hit Giancarlo seven. Just do it. I don't care I hurt hurt. His feelings whatever. GotTa do it. Hey you gotta do what you want. So you said your favorite player which are what time you go. I I was GonNa say who's your. Who would be your least favorite person to be stuck in quarantine with you said? Your favorite would be Tommy Canley. Who'd be someone you dread with? Come on Canley said what? Clint right out of enough said Canley would be his least favourite. Right drought crazy. Yeah I don't know that's a good thing because everyone has had a lot so that's a big thing and you all like each other very good all boy so all right there you go. We don't want any trouble here. You did see the quarantine house though that you were stuck in with For a short porch we had you with Ford Swisher holder in. Paxton that at my best of all time. That's as good as it gets. If you let it would have been like a Frat House. So who would you guys just make Ford the bitch though and like go get the groceries? Because he's the youngest. Just make sure the beer in the fridge. That's got to kind of be like your pledge of some sort So Garrett Cole. How mad were you with the Yankees? Go Out and sign him. So you can't hit home runs off anymore. Held that against me right when he called me about changing the number now. Oh Yeah Oh no. What was that conversation like? I just smiled. That's why you can't do you. Garrick Ball Kalsi. What what's that like? Like what what happens there while here is going to happen because you now he's got. He's been forty. Fives is Pittsburgh and you know. He's got a bunch of time and I didn't have forty five in my locker and I showed up when he got traded from the cardinals. So I was cool. You know just did my own bargaining and got myself some quantities. So you're not revealing. Its own dog. We kept each other some cool expert. Good enough I will say that Homerun did we money. I had yes runs Yankees in the first inning and that was like two accidents in it was just on the center. I always remember the homerun little moment there. That was six years ago. There's no baseball anymore. Sierra G so I feel like there is a little optimism. Small Manfred came out today and said he fully anticipates them playing. I guess that would mean Arizona. What are your initial thoughts about? Abiodun season in Arizona. I don't think it'll be really. Yeah I there's been there's I mean literally could save something it could be the opposite thing so I feel like I've heard from really good source like six different things so I think I would say the truth part of it is I think once the end of May hits. I think we'll start a spring training game now and I think it'll be in Tampa but I don't know I mean I can't see that's true or not because I have no. It happened with it but I would i. Hopefully we're back down at Tampa and hopefully plan by sometime this summer. Do you think it'll be at like Anki stadium and stuff are in Florida or I don't think I don't think it'll be the city hall are until you just don't know what this thing because we've never experienced before so it just depends on how New York recovers Places in the house right now so you know and there's just so many people up there so they have to. They have to keep us contain. You know now they said this thing doesn't like warm weather so obviously would be better to plan or states until we get it figured out right. Also confident won't be Arizona. No I'm not saying it will. I think it'll be all this other states. I might be like Grapefruit League in Catholic thing just like go to your spring training sites time. I'm like if they had said like the season starts in two weeks. How much time does it usually like for you as a hitter to get like like back in midseason form almost like when? I when I play it you you don't even feel like he played baseball before. I the first week of bad since. Like wow as. I think most guys like between like thirty or forty at bats. And that's really easy to get. It's not really us because everybody is going to be ready to go once. It has just like you said we're includes again hitting the double running the ball out. Kinda thing It's just the starting interest man and you know you know because it sucks because I know like hamper and coal and The starters are like almost ready for like you know. Eighty one hundred inches which is kind of what you want your started to go into opening day so I know those guys are saying ready to go. And they're still don't during the throne programs in touch with that Blake so it just depends You know 'cause they'd have to let us know they can't just hey. You got shot Friday right like they had set heads up for when this is GonNa happen you know. Obviously we need a spring training again so when and where and hopefully hopefully hopefully it's in two weeks but you know I don't know the way I the way I read tea. Leaves like with the man for today on that? It sounds the same thing you're saying. Where end of May Memorial Day weekend you guys released reporting or we know when you're reporting like there's going to be in the next month we're going to know everything that's going to happen if you like. I agree unless something crazy happens but yeah I think allow the states now are starting to open up a restaurants and stuff like Misao. So we'll see how that goes and How no man socks hate it? A lot of people are losing money and losing jobs so hopelessly turns around men and people are losing shitty situation. Yes it's horrible. So there's like a bunch of like crazy rule that they could experiment with you. Know whether it's you guys sitting in the stands not the dugout and six feet away from each other or not going to happen. You don't out the window okay. Problem with US starting to is like because they're gonNA have to obviously test us all right all been all over the country wherever we live in and then like you know. Hopefully no one has it. But I'm sure someone's GonNa have it because we're going to have all the forty man in the non regards to you could have waves and not put us on a towel or I don't know for living places like there's just so many obstacles to this so but that's not going to happen. I mean for all fine than we should all be able to sit down and play got some he literally when the Lacombe together? We're in the top of the other. You know or in the training room together in the waiver together. Like it's touching everything like it's impossible to clean everything we use every time you use it you know. How much of be? If there's only so much you can do to. Just stay away from it like it's just like together. It's nothing you can stop at that point because seasons. I mean we're GONNA have meetings and stuff too I mean. What are we all going to have to like? My question was going to be. What do you do with minor leaguers? Because he I I'm sure they would expand rosters to forty and all that for the whole year but last year there were thirty handke's on the I L. And you're never gonNA happen so hopefully hopefully crises working his magic there but like. I don't even know. How do you keep minor leaguers fresh and all that is not gonna be Minor League season? There's no way so there's a lot. There's a lot of questions that happen. But it seem like it's trending towards some sort of because the alternative is you guys. Don't lie and obviously money is involved there so everyone wants to play at some point. And I feel like there's GonNa be some sort of compromise assuming everything medically deaf trends. And that's why they're saying. Go Your Spring Training Sites. 'cause all the minorities had backfield so so you can keep you know all those guys shave because I mean think. About how much money do the Yankees spent like in you know overseas in the in the draft? And all that stuff. You can't just throw that money away Ryan throw away is you have to keep ready And that's I don't know what's going to happen. Amelia's a little bit. So yeah that in my manage sucks speaker that has gotten a chance to feature is on Jason Dominguez yet. No no I I mean. Once he sixteen but he was on the Marley side of the time he's young. They're not going to bring him over here now. That's like I feel like you. You'll see him. Maybe two years or something like that. Maybe you'd snip him but he's like two dogs even player at this point. He's like seventy. Yeah Kazan when I was in. Saint Louis now is on the Marley site to allow. Those guys don't shop till the end Mike for extended stuff because of sixty and I can't imagine claim pro bowl when sixteen so not saying he's not talented but like she got let you know. Yeah I get scared with his height machine. It's like too much like Mickey Mantle and Mike Trout like. Let's let's dial back. Let him play high. I don't see how he does it. Matured one hundred percent So we talked a little about the injury So we had you on last year like mid June and then go to London at the end of the month. And that's when you know it really got exposed but were you hurt before that moment like the way you starting to feel it a little bit before that. Maybe playing through Yes at that point to the mid season. You're Kinda just crying into everything but you know I was having a lot of back issues like because I think overcompensating because I think you know those other certain other muscles were already torn and then it was kind of missed last threat in that. Ten is muscle that I tore in that. You know 'cause the whole thing so I I don't know I don't want to blame it on that. I don't really remember if I was feeling it then. it's just. I didn't realize how bad it was and I was trying to come back and I didn't realize how bad is actually hurt and how much I like. It's not one hundred percent in chocolate baseball. It's IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. Especially being a pitcher ca powerful hitter when I need my legs impropriety to be connected in. I was frustrating but now it's competitor and I wanted to play boys especially postseason coming up in the snow September race So I learned a lot about myself last year and it's frustrating. But you know like Ado be there for my boys and then you know obviously fixed up ready to go twenty twenty even though it's a shift near so far so yeah I feel that. How hard was it to just sit back during that October? Run like that and just kind of like a help. It's like it's got to be the worst feeling in the world sort woman but I'm not going to be a bad team. May Be there so I traveled a team in the you know they know it sucks not being a part of it. But it's even worse when you when you see all these guys you know grinding grinding and you want to get to the world series in they lose. It's just just heartbreaking as you're with them all year it's this games harm any hundred sixty two games and your chances are slim to win the world series and then when you get so close and then you lose its. It sucks man's frustration. I didn't want that I we. I just took this interview towards a downturn That was my fault. I didn't mean to do that But I on question I was GonNa say before asking everyone this You mentioned how keenly always annoys. Ought BEANO. He told us this we asked about. What's Your What do you like on the team plane? What do you like to earn a long plane? Ride maybe to Seattle more on the West Coast. What are you usually doing on the team plane? And what's the Bible in General Tommy Canley knowing everybody Kayla usually play video games Non playing cards? There's like five or six guys. I played cards with point. Cards like literally level gun. Who's the Nacro have a couple of cocktails cars man? That sounds fantastic. But now against what's article over to play with yeah we had a revolving door last year. Is Somebody got hurt? But it was like Hicks Way Gary Romaine Who wants to play? Ej got to be in that group right. Now there's a there's another table that plays cards to on out the money to play at that table. Are you pretty good? Would you say you're pretty good carpenter? I'm okay I'm okay so you know it's cards meant sometimes it goes away. Sometimes you want. Your car is out the window but most time. It doesn't go on my way. Not Great The the nickname meet I feel like has kind of surfaced more than it has in the past. Is that a new nickname or have you always have that? Because that's the time he calls me. So Tommy stuff yeah Jonah. Okay he because he when you're up at the play it'll be the show he just says meet like a hundred thousand times so that's just a. Tommy originated nickname like an art group chat. It's like he'll be like hey. Dj Clint meet in letter. Play Games like it's never. Luke is meeting all very soclean. Luke. You like it or hate it. I don't mind it because everybody calls me. Everybody thinks I would be like the perfect cut meat if they if the person you had to eat so I gotta eat. Hit that Yeah we'll wrap it up with with this unless you guys have anything else. You became an author recently Guyana bloop. That's pretty good thing to throw on your resume. Their the the Children's book called Luke's Baseball Story. Tell us a little about a little bit about that. Yes so last year I went up to When I was in the Bronx on school hurt and I got to run around to kids in you know whereas like amount and a half from stadium and they had never had the got the principles Air Flight. Twenty eight years. My Daddy said he has not been a player there when pilots. That's crazy So I thought this year when I go back I set up like a tour like three or four schools. I was going to go to the Bronx Area. Count Stadium and we thought it'd be good to know kind of have a book to take the kids and you know I was. I talked about you know working hard and making sure you're listening to your teachers and you know You know the ways I got to the big leagues and stuff like that. It's like it's some gym class with but I thought this time I could bring my book. Share my book with these kids and you know. Kinda put another face in front of him. Because when I was younger and I saw Mark Maguire for the first time it struck with me for the rest of my life. And that's something. I always remember so I thought it'd be cool to to go show these kids. What's up you know? Because I don't know if a lot of go Yankees Games in you know. Sit Down for thirty minutes to an hour and hang out with them. No Show my book you know you know. Have some inspiration for them. That's pretty good so it's on. Is it you combine anywhere Amazon. All that this whole thing messed it up dude. It's not out yet. It's been published. I think that shipping all shut down because John Destroying again. It's just ruining everything but there are a lot of pictures. I if I can read you can read it. Marty until this pitches literate. I think the last story I read willingly was like in fourth grade so I will buy this. Maybe I'll get through it in in one sitting that'd be nice. I hope hopefully it will fade out. Everything's done But yeah fluid ability shelves here soon so loose baseball story okay. Cool Cool Mardi Tom. You guys have anything else that you're also. Iowa's the magic number tonight. I'm a set the over under three forty long. Does that take so some? Some stories sent me like two Hundred Ping Pong Ball. So that's helped cause the first time I did this shit. It took me seven hours. 'cause I seven ping pong balls so today at least like a kind of rapid fire but it's just a fucking the snack tables the problem right now so I don't know what do we think over on the three phone. You guys have no faith. I haven't seen it so I can't. I duNNO UNTHINKING SIXTEEN. Thirty four is it. Is it on twitter instagram. It's on John Bolton's yeah I think it's on both three thirty four is it's just too low. Yeah take a look. I need to look the athlete. He let's let's see what he says. I'm in pretty spot on assessing. I feel like if you're going to go over under how far this one I literally do. Not Think you'll do the one on the staircase. I actually thought it was gonNA take thirty days that that was satisfying shit. Show was twice table. Top Pot while fight off the pot again his job. What's hey good? Chris shot on the spot. Where over three forty shit? What's your guess? What let's get a guess? How many beers you have this. I am a limited we. Are you better when you'RE SOBER WAY? Better looking better trunk. So give us a number what he got for eighty four. Oh all right. I'll take that that's all I want the best or the other one the one of the gals shot into my friends. Mouth was nine and a half hours hall. My Dad cheated to win that I know threw up on the stream by the. What was the number for that? That was twelve hundred. Sixty five eight. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA have to like go to bed. My predictions are going to go to bed and try it again tomorrow. I can't you know I'll get crucified if I ever did that. I remember for that one with the golf shot. I woke up at eight in the morning and a check twitter and you adjust accomplished it like an hour before a literally just went to bed. The Sun came up. It was terrible. My back was in shambles. One last thing Luke. Are you a play catch guy or have a catch Guy Act someone like you're GonNa have a catch like. Do you have a cat like do you WANNA play? No play catch lake catch. Okay Yeah I may have. Let's have a catch catch to morning. What are you the athlete side? I don't really know what I am I usually say. Let's let's go talks. Say I think ours is. Do you WANNA throw. Yeah we say yeah usually throw or let's toss yeah. What kind of woke up. Sorry for the podcast with two leading asshole. Lot of the picture. It like. Meet Nine asking my dad to go have a catch in the backyard. That's my experience on a good chance. That sounds awful. W like After a deejay each ready I don't even say that yes or just go like this. I think it's a little different for professional athletes. If the kids will you guys are cash every day and I don't even I throw it back to the pitcher most thraw all right look always a pleasure man. Thank you for coming on and and taking away from the Corinthian a little bit Maybe we put some sanity back in your life. You're not going so crazy Hopefully we see you out there who ever do that for anybody not no. Nfl draft Thursday this little preview for the fans that are looking for a little football on Thursday. I'll be fun just looking forward to things. Hopefully spring training gets cook. In a month. We see you out there and Juice crushing baseball's always good time Hopefully hopefully there's something to wash on. Tv here pretty soon so Yeah I wish I could be back in New York right now. But Honesty's hard times you never wanna be staying Through this distant thing so we can get back on the field in Have some previous watching him until that. Bushman this I guess is what we have already. Four Scotto Mr Eighty Four. Let's do it baby hi. Everybody likes to his voice once again. Thank you for coming on. Always great to hear from him. Hopefully we get to see him in person in a month or so. We started to hear rumblings that he's getting you know you start to see the instagram video of him hidden cages and all that That was really funny Real quick I know Marty has to go so we might just bounce in a second years. GotTa do walk line but Digi Lemay who last night Canley was doing his twitch with Britain and talk and all of a sudden they wanted you to join and all of a sudden Talking goes out. He went to bed and they're like it's ten fifty five adding Ben and they're like oh well George Steinbrenner fields opening up tomorrow and he wants to be the first one in the cages. Just did you like Only talk to these guys. How much cool they are. It's unbelievable no. It was just a cool guy. I mean they're they just have it all who doesn't say they. WanNa be with Luke Boyd during quarantine like that is the correct answer? Like that's the guy you want to spend it with Cook for you. If you need to work out betty self you can like what else and like. He's GonNa Talk. All Sports Review Basketball really but like I'll watch the documentary and just to watch it and then he's GonNa talk football talk. Baseball play video games number one number one gotta be stuck in quarantine with it. As far as I'm concerned also partly Roy Gronkowski to the local news. Yeah Leroy fucking against Gronk is nearing the dealer talking with the bucks to be with Brady crazy. He's had his physical at the bucks already. Okay so this is done. That's crazy that he's already done his Jay Glazer so take it edit. Whatever but I'll talk to bronze. Yeah just just heard from GRONK. Artist took his physical for the bucks trade not completed. He's coming back for the bucks if it goes through Glazer today. He's a fucking this guy. He's from my hometown. Jay Glazer he's from Anelka and so but he tweeted they did a mock draft the NFL like to see how go and he's just tweeting that he ran drops. This tweet at one forty cowboys end up. Trading up with the Bengals for that first pick teams. We're giving him to select trade partner like Egypt started tweed like that. I was like what just happened and it was about the mock draft that he was tweeting about before that. But if you look at that one tweet out of context you're like Holy Shit Jay Glazer insane crazy. And then he had his snapper where he hyped up breaking national news in the being fucking backup center on the rams have corona and. He's already cured. Jay Glazer man a brutal all right. Well you guys enjoy the short porch. I'll be back next week And they say wash your hands. Stride stayed inside as much as you can watch draft them. Mj DOC on Sunday. We'll talk about it and all other baseball stuff. Hopefully if we inching closer to another season starting later this is John Sterling. You've been listening to short porch Byproduct of spar stool sports feeling trapped inside so frayed. 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Miracle on the Hudson Survivor Dave Sanderson and Motivational Speaking (#66)

The Storytellers Network

47:26 min | 2 years ago

Miracle on the Hudson Survivor Dave Sanderson and Motivational Speaking (#66)

"He was in the back of the room. She is probably I tell I tell you very elderly promise, you say eighty plus years old, but she made her way up to the front and interrupted were who I was talking just game interrupted the conversation, which Canley down south where I live. That's that's the do Yosso, but she grabbed my arm. I let my left arm looked to be a question. There is a God. And I don't believe in miracles, but you are physical evidence that there is a God. And he does miracles said. Thank you. Thank you walked away. And I've never seen her at our church again. But I looked at these two men needs to Mets are crying right front. I've never seen to crawl like this public. You know, I grew up with men don't cry mullet. Register your man up. But also these cry that got them emotionally and ministers in the back. And he witnesses thing I look at him. Like, man what's going on here? But also came to happen to me impacted somebody now have a different calling. And that's what started me on this this journey that I'm on now. From cave. Drawings to family histories, two stories around the fire, humans crave. Order among chaos connection amid isolation. So we tell stories our mission at the storytellers network is to bring the art of story to the masses. Whether you're in marketing, you're an entrepreneur, or you're developing your own personal brand telling your story effectively can make the difference between celebrating milestones and collecting unemployment. The storytellers network strives to help storytellers tell their stories so you can learn from the best now your host the inbound evangelist himself, Dan Moyle, welcome storytellers to the podcast. I appreciate you being here listening, Dan, while I'm your host that I am such a firm believer in the power of story. And how it connects us how a move people and this season we're talking to inspirational storytellers, and I'm so excited. Have an amazing storyteller. Coming up on the show real quick before. I get to his story. A quick reminder. Our website. Site has great resources available for you, the storytellers network dot com. There's contact information for me if you wanna chat that our resources and how to tell great stories from park Howell, Donald Miller hub spot other folks out there their past episodes, all their the storytellers network dot com. And if you wanna subscribe in your new you can simply text the word storytellers two three one nine nine six and you'll get a response back on how to subscribe either on apple podcasts through Google store or even through Spotify as well. Although that's only on site. Anyway, there you go free one nine nine six just text the word storytellers. Okay. So today's guest asks are you ready for new focus at a powerful purpose? And that just gives me fight up to say on it. He's an inspirational survivor speaker and author and thoughts on leadership have made him an internationally sought out speaker, again international right around the world. He's just a fantastic guy had up to me, Dave. And he has fantastic. Now. Here's where starts back in on January fifteen two thousand nine Dave. Anderson was one of the last passengers off that plane that crashed into the Hudson river best known as the miracle on the Hudson, of course, and considered to be one of the most successful ditching an atheist in history. His book moments matter details, the lessons that he learned from that miraculous landing outta take a potentially tragic experience. What he what Dave calls your own personal plane crash turn it into an opportunity to survive and create your own flight plan. Does this presentation all over the place? He's built a career as a motivational speaker mentor and author as at averages over one hundred speeches a year for major corporations around the world. So without further ado, let's get today's story. Thanks for taking time today. Dave to speak with the storyteller network listeners. Dan. Thank you side with union. Your audience. So I had the privilege of meeting you at one of the podcast ads, and we have friends in common. I've heard your story. But but for those who aren't familiar? I wanna get your story just a minute. But but first we're in this inspirational storyteller season. Do you consider yourself a storyteller? Dave, I do think why asked classify myself way in classified as inspirational storyteller on leadership. So that's. Leadership purpose sort like the underneath a secondary. So that's how I tie across from us. Oh, so you tell stories from the stage, you tell stories on audio on video on social you everywhere. So. Because you know, everybody has a different modality, they resigned. So I got hit everybody out. He makes I next make people's I can absolutely now where do you think starts views a storyteller? Does this go way back to when you were a child does this to start professionally for you where did that start to become a storyteller for they really started got involved sales, and I learned not early but probably five six years into as a lot of personal development in the best sample of people around and got to be trained within I told great stories. So I started telling stories probably my second sales position it start taking me that direction. But I wasn't really more about business sort of melted into something different after the earth along Hudson debt, so so grey segue in your intro mention the miracle on the Hudson, and how that impacted you. So how does that like let's go back to that? What happened? How does that impact? You how does that become part of your journey? So. As the changed. My wife hundred degrees. In reason, why tell us this. I was not supposed to be on that plane. So I think I was supposed to be on that plane for reason, I was on the five o'clock flight night changed. My flight about three hours before the scheduled takeoff time that flight so number one wants to be on their second. I wasn't paying attention. And I tell people like, I was typical heavy travel. I know everything I don't want to pay attention, anybody Leamy low and all of a sudden, you realize something does go wrong in all the team, very important leadership. Coach very important in all these things. I talked about was mayor outlays moments of cards start start playing into how pornos things in my life were. And is that kind of the moment where you became more of a motivational speaker or like daddy always talked about leadership when you were getting out of sales. Or is that the moment that defined where you are right now. I think that moment open my eyes, my is a number of different things. And you know, what you spiritually physically emotionally changed in open is different levels. Because no, I wasn't really really grieving go speak onto this world. I'm doing right now. But fortunately for me, I I got up to speak at my turf that following Sunday. That was for miss breakfast was candidates Toby only forty or fifty guys eat pancake. So it's not that big of a deal on Sunday invited half Charlotte and five six hundred people show up Austin I had to deliver in was at sales right in sales. I you know, I was always I got my time stays I had to deliver so deliver. So I have nothing to say fourthly from me after. That squeaky couple of people talking. So was there for extended about time, which I tell what's mazing. Thanks come together because Norway allergist on non left on a church, but I stayed talk to people in the lady came up and said something change the entire direction on knew that I had a different calling. But I didn't know how to do it on a so forcefully from me. I had great coaches and great metrics all my life in one of those victims with somebody Tony Robbins your chance to travel with over ten years ahead of security for so for for me out surrounding master storyteller. Who gave me coaching on how to do it in the business? Sign of how to do. Likewise. Now. What did? So can you wouldn't she say that you are open to hearing changed everything for you? Well, Kelly I wasn't even open it talking to her. She was in the back of the room. She is probably I tell us tell very elderly promise eighty plus years old, but she made her way up to the front and interrupted who I was talking to this game interrupted the conversation. Canley down south where I live. That's not something you do Yosso to grab my arm. My left arm. Left arm. It looked to be his question. There is a God. And I don't believe in miracles, but you are physical evidence that there is a God. And he does miracles. Thank you. Thank you walked away. And I've never seen her at our church again. But I looked at these two men needs to match are crying right front. I've never seen to cry like this public. I grew up with men don't cry it right through man up. But all of a sudden these cry that got to them emotionally and ministers in the back, and he witnessed this thing. And I look at him like man what's going on here. But also came to happen to me impacted somebody now have a different calling. And that's what started me on this this journey that I'm on now. Absolutely. So so you want us really open a hearing it. But you heard it it impacted you. So you released wise enough to do that. And then you mentioned going back to your mentors. And having those of you how important as a storyteller is it to be ready to be coached. I think. You have to have an open mind because one thing you learn when you go into this world, whether storytelling speaking, whatever writing books, whatever you wanna call it. You know, you don't know everything at one thing. I'm I was very forcible back when I first got into my first job out at college. I asked somebody took me under his wing who who basically start business at nineteen twenty nine it grew into a multi million dollar business, and he could swing and he was basically coaching mentor me for thirteen years because you know, one thing I did I in bags smart things. I did you think, you know, everything? That's I mean, that's the thing come out how Dr feelgood you comedy something. You get your first job. You're on your pathway, man. I had superman. So you figure out you're not superman. You know, nothing basically, no experience, and you basically a lot of book smart, but not street smarts force it for me. I people always took under their wing one of the truly believed as people come into your life at the time in your life. Or reason a purpose? And maybe you're not ready for that person. Say off son don't show up one that show up that happened to me is happening many times in my life, which I'm very bus or do. Absolutely. And then, and then I would assume you feel a little bit of a calling to give that same to others and pull them under your wing a little bit. Is that a great place to kind of have that community and grow yourself as well to be a mentor. Most definitely Kaley. I've always mentored kids air nary Neffa consistently. But something happened last summer that changed that let the fire ignited the fire. So here's the back story that so my my my first mentor Bill while I was never took the under swing nineteen Eighty-three. Call me to office, my mom just passed away. And you know, being the eldest son. My dad was a mess. I people are listening for this for parent the pass it away, the other parent not ready force on how to deal with it. So the children have to Dale you handle it. Handle the business side of it. I and my sister my sister, and I were doing so I was businessmen the whole time. So I got back. I call Bill told him about this in he stored tell that I need to talk to you. Call to his office in one of the first things said to me said, hey, we'll let you know. I've got lung cancer. Now's as where tell me he's probably not gonna be around much longer. And he did he last five or six months, but he went to desk, it opened his desk up also pulled out something and came over sat next to me in his little thin there. So I wanna give you this. These were notes that he wrote his mentor basically gave him he wrote nineteen twenty nine about the prisoner principles success in business, and these were notes that he built his business on a million dollar movie theater business in the southeast. And he said, I'll ask is this is I wanna give this to you. Don't let it die with you. Please pass it on. So, of course, smart guys. I put it in the journal. Don't look at it. Right. I. You know, all of a sudden last summer opened at all families notes like, okay, here's calling now I wanna take this. I'm passes notes on our given from back in the twenties at least ten people this year teach teach ten people ten people or magnified out. So that's doing now is finding tippy we really want to learn these lessons I had to learn in mentor. These people for the next twelve months, if those people wanna show up it will show up in my life supposed to show up. And that's that's amazing sharing them personally. Like that. Have you thought about then to in this super connected world and everybody can have a book? And I mean, you already have a book about putting those in something like that. Then as well. Or is it really more of a personal action that you wanna make well that is that is in the game plan. Dan. I'm glad you said that 'cause that's the game plan about wanna take Tim people through this. I I wanna really because I think you'll learn much misery somebody in teaching the principles as you do just hold him on yourself. So I'll be rumors myself teach these people I will be this into a book. I know there's a book here. Tell you. There's nothing earth shattering around what he gave me. But the way he put it together. Nineteen twenty nine he got these his mentor, and I never I never knew as mentors. That's our passed away a long time ago. He got this nineteen twenty nine. I don't people. What what really fired me once I start looking at these summers. He got this nineteen twenty nine right beginning of depression. Right right for we went into a World War. He's starting a business. And I mean, these lessons he took heat build a business in the middle of depression to automate business, which is still here. I know he passed it on his family. But I know what how that's going to David. It's amazing story about this taking the basics and really mercy yourself in your basics. That's that's why I feel passionate about now. And what a cool way to frame it too in that story of his mentor. Baabda him who brought him to you know, you're passing along the digital cool story. So which which kind of leads me to Dexing you called Tony Robbins, a master storyteller. What makes someone a master storyteller in your eyes? I believe somebody who I think got story. But I think you got get people not talking about this. We start talking. So I'll go back, then we'll go forward. I talked about modalities people reside in either visual auditory, kinesthetic modality, most of the time. So I'm talking about Gus tore no factory eating tasting smell which smelling strongest modality. You have fuel resign us three modality. So I think great storytellers wanted could we've in each modality each story in a way that touches people, which we wanna focus if he were here in the way, they want to be absorbed formation. I think the greatest storytellers been around are able to do that. And that's really focused on now is proving that skill set is is we story to wait at touches visualizes for people. They can hear auditory mode. Likewise. And how often do you work on that crap? Now, the storyteller are you constantly researching working out is it a four hour day thing like how do you do that? So I had to approve on how I do it. And I have done over twelve hundred talks around the world. I've got I know I know sort might content, and I'm always adding content. That's another thing too, which gives me energy to be over deliver it, but what I do this. Why really I know back when I hear myself talk, and I record my try recording. I'm looking for the words saying, so sometimes I mentioned three from O'Dowd. It's just ways I talked about touching visualize in hearing. Right. Those three modalities, but for those some of those words may say, no, maybe this next talk. I wanna be around baby yours, I wanna talk more make more of a kinesthetic talk about touching feeling right? Instead of a visual talk when I talk in the younger people. So they can see it in things like that. So that's how I started. Playing on one. I do is. How do I use the words seen? Tony do this on state. He's a master at it. He is a certain worse. Certain people certain way because he knows how he can connect with him in the modality. So also what I hear you say they're picked up on knowing your audience. That's gotta be pretty vital. Right. I agree. I think you know, what I'm trying to now people who asked me speak. I have now I don't get a lot probably get now thirty forty percent of times I asked him for basically breakdown of the female to male, you know, generational breakdown. So I know so our frame this this talk in my story away that I know that words I wanna use. And I know what I'm going to show some of the things I show now. I mean, I have you seen me speak. It's audit. I actually put something also the people actually hear what was said that day from the ferry when I got ferry. So all of a sudden you're in the middle of the game. They're hearing on the stuff going on like. I'm getting somebody in different modality in all of a sudden you see them connecting. So he's things out working all the time. My story. That's let's rationing. We we have to keep working out our craft matter where we are in it in order to continue to improve and reach different audience, whatever. So that's good encouragement. So thank you for sharing that they've why do you think that stories can move the way they do? And how do you get to that point where you're moving people? I mean, obviously like we've talked about. But also just why did they move like they do. I think people I think best which can connect quickly. So you have a relationship without person in one of the things I learned is even when you're a big room of thousand plus people, I've gotta be or connect with these personnel. Rue. So I think when you're connecting with somebody. Whether it's once again, whether you're looking at them, whether you're speaking of the when you go up on your walk around. Sometimes I'll go up to somebody Pat on the shoulder without connecting the connection. Now, they got that feeling wasn't have that feeling with many telling the story there. They're in story with me, see one of those I have to take people inside with me. So I I think I was one of the people who can actually take you inside a situation, which you you may have never ever Omay never ever experience can do that lack. She actually live wet mate through my story. Now got something with you. And I give people moved emotionally. And once you get moved emotionally people. Now, you have that connection that connection pretty much for life, less less. You do something that destroys that connection. And and I've heard other interviews and heard from people maybe you can reference this little there's just a little bit story and emotion or what moved us our brain fires so much Mattingly. But when we get an emotional connection that makes it change for us. And so that's more powerful than just facts and figures is that kinda why what you do is. So world changing. I think think the people he's now sale if an accurate because I was sales people by actually it back. It up logically. Ryan, that's basic stuff. But yes, when you're speaking people by that story emotionally, I know sudden they come around while I understand that could happen because there's nowhere else away. Johnson got him emotionally 'cause you're going down to rivers like one going river while there's no other place to go. So now, they're backing logic. So yes, you have to touch emotionally, you know, many emotion right motion is about your life. So that so meeting is your life after meeting something on Sunday, bring emotional son, they can build that into their life. So let's take a little bit of a tangent. I wanna get out of here. Speaking of emotion. Meaning I wanna hear little bit more about your story on the Hudson. What I hope that nobody listings ever in a plane crash or a rough landing because it was a landing you survive. It's good. But what what was that? Like, I mean. And then my my secondary question to that. Then I'll get to is gonna talk about how what you did afterwards. Because that to me is even more amazing. But what was it like going into the river like that? So they mean like last moment. Yeah. I don't talk about that a lot of. I'm really asked about it. I tell them because I tell people is that last moment, which was probably one of the most emotional parts for me. Because once you put your head down. Yeah. You're gone over the bridge, your sixty seconds away from either dying in cripple or coming back. There's basically three options right survive survive injured or you're not. I mean, it's pretty much those are auctions. You put your head down. I tell you what happened to me. I contrast that with some other people's going to Matic life experiences. That's why they're my Ted talk on it is that you see the movie of your life before your eyes. I mean, you put your head down say get you give it up because one thing they realize when you're going down, you have no control on the control your mind. I mean, you find a plane you Troy by else's emotion, which control your mind. So I saw the movie of my life passing for my is when all the way back to when I was a kid play little league baseball. You know, the McCain that we took to go see monuments. I'll say things with vivid in clarity had seen for forty fifty years. So what I did what my the only guy this, right? Is this just me? So I had a lady who I knows the friend of mine who survived the earthquake in Haiti she was basically in rubble for five plus hours, ROY confined, a counter, I asked her how what was that like for you your role? I had my with aphid pretty quick yours was extended. She goes. I really don't movie what happened in my life. I clearly like, wow. This really happens. What people are sort of going out is they get clarity about purpose of what's going on. I think that's what happened to me. That's why so emotional for me. His also my purpose really was no realize coming into play. And then you seemingly immediately put that purpose to work. So as everybody's getting off the plane. You didn't just escape I understand you actually helped others, right? Yeah. Kaelin we very can't. It wasn't my game plan now. Now. I'm a business guy plans together, you strategies, Tony's strategies right on how about strategy that was my strategy. But when I got the I'll heard something in my head change, my strategy was my mother, and my mother had passed away like mentioned back in nineteen ninety seven. But I heard her say something in my head that sort of sort triggered me. Like if you do the right thing, God, we'll take care of you. And you know, why don't people start thinking about that? I didn't think about this at the moment very candid. This is not what I thought about the moment years laters. My mother never told me what to do. She always made me make a decision, and my mother always there's policy that consequences negative cuts, which it's every decision. I talked to my kids. So I think my mother was saying, okay. This is your this. Is it you you make decision? You don't you can go out and nothing else will be said about it. Or you could use something different. I decided do go help people. So I make my way towards the back of the plane got behind everybody start making my way out like everybody else in all of a sudden, I'm looking at the right? The first shot that I have is on the right side to now I'm outta here. But when I got the door, I started getting down like everybody else on the wings the picture people way. There's no room on the way is already filled up. So you look at the boat. There's no room on the boat. So also undecided plane waste three to reward for seven minutes. Hold onto this lifeboat. If he will keep asking why did you hold on lifeboats will what people kept on hold on hold on. Because what happened was on the lifeboat floating out into the river because of the current and they like high, and they have at you. Everybody's listening who reads the Laura brochure plight no-one recessing, I do now. But no reason is actually tended to the plane, but they didn't know that. So that's why hold onto the lifeboat for seven minutes waste, even the water. That's how I became when the last people out client if not the last passenger has got to some of her was the last personnel. The plane. So I guess the question, maybe people are listening are ready to ask wanna hear do you? And captain solemn bigger. Do you? Sully have lunch now. We have a couple of days together. But he's so busy right now. Like, I am wrong going different directions. We all have different missions right now. So I have been at the honor of being a medium of actress speaking stage with him which was great to do. But I don't see too much more control our different ways Asher. So, you know, I have storytellers of all different walks of life all different things. What I what I love about. This season is talking to speakers in particular. How do you approach what you do as a speaker with story? Do you have a framework like I wanna tell these three stories in these three lessons. You just tell stories how how do you go about that framework? There's two things that I do. And this is started with forfeit when I to be with Tony. But we were talking Tony Robin talking. You know? You know, the thing he told me need is totally about taking this to heart is no never take a note on stay. You gotta know it's gotta come from the heart. So, you know, you never takes note on stage. I've never taken note onstage. So would I do they answer your second question is this? I wanna know the audience, I wonder the makeup if I don't know what I get to earliest. I could see it also. Okay. This audience looking for leadership or teamwork or they wanna say about maybe as a face talk. So all of a sudden now thinking, okay, I've got all these different stories. I could tell I've only got forty five to sixty minutes, which ones do our. Wow. The most impacted than I threw a rack with the pure rain. Right. This went out. This went out. This went out. How do I put it together are putting together a sequence in myself in the proper state to go for it? So all comes down when I walk in there. More get that that pre pre listed. Where's the audience was was this conference about right, which is confidence about it? Just means about that. I'm pulling the stuff out there. I've got this. When this week I like thirty stories I can pull away. But all depends. Outcome of the audience is that's why I connect now. How do you maintain that catalogue of stories? So well, so that you remember them nowhere to weave them in and stuff. So I of course, back nine years ago. I still write stories down. Right. But what I started doing with each one little card. I've got one here right here. It's like this triggered words. So it's like old lady right on with store told you about the ladies old lady, right or Red Cross. So triggered the word. So I've learned how that learned being a winner. Tony for all those years is how to really make those connections right building get information quickly because of you can get that quickly. You can impact people. So. Okay. So have these trigger words was what I'm gonna do my block do this do this. Now, the trigger words it all set store goes in my brain cave. Nasa story, yours yours going. So I have triggers every one of my stories which helped me. Very quickly. Go like, a it's like a computer. Right. But it in right? This is goes out. So it's all each of the three stores four stories, depending on how much time I got twenty minutes eagle story, you know. You know, pretty much again. So I got sixty three to four stores, right? So sounds kind of. Sounds maybe maybe simplistic or common sense. But it's a matter of of practicing and knowing them and being purposeful. I mean, right definitely. Yeah. I think it was doing that subliminally until I did my tedtalk more had to be gentle. 'cause if you need probably talked to you this debts, you got eight minutes, right? Your storyteller man, you could tell stories all day long. So you got eighteen minutes to get to get your message out. Right. It was impact cameras are on your five hundred people are looking at you can't step dot in by the way will clock down eighteen minutes. One seconds. You lost? Right. You don't get the video. Right. You don't get the goal right ignore gets on as they say, right, Jerry. Maguire would say so that taught me how to tell people how much did you train for that? So I said, well, you know, I was put over two hundred hours of training at all. Because I own I wanna make sure it's perfect. Right. But then you get there and all of a sudden health breaking excuse my language, right? So they're not send you got regroup. But I think that Ted talk taught me how to really do this intentionally how to do it. Do you think that that those TED talks are kind of the top echelon currently of speaking? I think people speaker look like that. But after experiencing one, I don't think so I think it's great training. It's great exposure. Right. It's a great venue. I mean, and I do another one. I would if I had I had to build time in the train for. That's the thing about it. I think the great storytellers are. People are notorious Dona tedtalk, but his judge. You know, basically was I saw Ted talk. Tony this went for it. Right. So I think people look at that you can get on that big one one big stage. But I really think it's every defense that you get somebody for people how you have more impact doing those. Visit one TED talks. Sure. What do you think Dave is one of your biggest challenges with storytelling? I think the biggest challenge probably have is. I don't wanna get stale. I think you know, one thing I've always remembered than I've learned this for years and years everybody that front of probably I seen me. So I've got bring it. I've got bring it. And sometimes that's been. Yeah. Somebody of two or three times. Right. So when I do not God June events where may have two or three thoughts do redcross fits, right? So what I do those make sure on that stale for them is at bring out different story out bring another one outright just sort of little variety because you're there six human needs the second big second even need people have variety. So I wanna give people a certain they're going to get certain certain, but also give variety. So when I do make sure that I don't get that. I get stale is not bring some the new stories. It may even tell a different perspective. Like the story. I told you earlier about knowing down that last moment, right? I may tell the whole different perspective from a family perspective, though, set of my personal perspective. It's almost like a like a musician. They may play the same song in it again. But there's variations and stuff just to get a little bit of Riecke. I guess right. Listen to interview the other day thinks ride alongs, right? James core, John hill. Josh by what tiny dancer billion times? Right. He's playing over. And they asked for that question said he puts himself in that mode. It's like. Nineteen seventy four when I play for the first time. Also, he see is. I think it was a cool. Great store. You see there is a rollback like okay, go back into the brain put himself in the state of. I wrote this nineteen seventy four like the first time. I've learned about watching these great people. He's great entertainers how they do it. The palm cardinals of the world right now play these songs back in the USSR billions of times, though, brings it. Right. So there's a strategy behind it always modern the best. So when things Tony tov his model the best. So I always as always rejected that top one percent of any any area. I wanna get better. Add speaking financing, mostly I find that top person top ten people. I'll go for. Each bay keeping the strategies so again being open to improvement is important than never ending improvement penna. Dan, prove it do you also read quite a bit. Like a lot of you know, we hear all these the top CEO's read one book every day or something. Crazy, right? Do you read a lot too? Well, I used to read more, but I had to get a different strategy because it's how busy I am now. So I downloaded book week. And I listen, I listen to at least one book a week cash. Yes. I'm getting one book. I may not have time to read it. But when I'm putting ears are said, right? I'm hearing it. And also in brain also things try to right through the week while her this in this book Novak now I can use that. Yeah. Which leads me to the other question. I was thinking about for you technology. We talk about the different modalities in which we learn different platforms. We all consume from what I've seen from you. Dave over the last couple of years is using all these different all the different media. Let's vailable. Alexa, briefs using podcasting using Facebook live using videos now, I'm going to say this politically correct as I can you're probably in your fifties. Don't think of somebody at that age. Let's say early read that's all the kids stuff. Right. How do you attack that in try to stay relevant and engage with the newest technologies and not feel overwhelmed. Greg question is because I put myself round people around him who millennials gen Xers. I'll put myself on this kinda people intentionally. I mean, I've met a lady last year Spokane story speaking candidate group of five. Eight hundred plus women grin on his for me. Love it. Women are great daughters for me. But there's a lady who's there who is speaking. Right. After me is she was she's a number one social media expert in Canada, basically started out at Silicon Valley now sticking to Canada. And all of a sudden, she's like thirty five right? And so became connected with her start connecting these people right at that age. So they can keep you keep me fresh. I'm coming out some new technology out here pretty soon, which pretty excited about it. Even did this for my tedtalk brought out the video scribe, which no one ever heard about when I talked to a guy who's basically in the twenties lives in Utah who figured out technology, and I kept you teach me technology in. I used it in my tedtalk. And now he's it every time. It goes up is putting yourself around the people you want to be like, so I still do basketball stats at the high school girl being say what you all graduated because it gives me around the youth. What's going on in that technology world? Right. I see what they're doing. Also like, okay. Where can I use? Something that connected. The millennials. That's a market for me or even the jen's ears. Whatever have to recall right now post millennial. Yeah. I don't know. I think MTV called them the builders or something like just weird anyway. But that's how I stay on top of the technology in our put myself around people. So my team when we're thing I've got a baby we were on my chain. I've got a genetic zero team and got millennial. So I've got off the different really did do this day. And so I talked to any Brad solace in Brad is when foremost authorities on generational strategies. Even I heard speak in Michigan. Michigan NIU out speaking after I suppress great stuff. Teach me stay tollways. You're gonna have somebody every level on your team. So that's why I now millennial my team she about fireball. She can do fifty things at one time. Right. I working trying to get a PowerPoint up. She's like. So that's how I do it. Michigan went to make my way over to you. Because I'm in Michigan. So. That's awesome. Man. I'm I'm just loving this. What? So so you're someone who motivates and inspires others. Who who or what story has really changed things for you over the years, or maybe a few or whatever like is there anybody particular who or a life changing story that has impacted you greatly. I think that's a great question. I hear stories all the time. And they impact the, someway, but it really came from something that I start sharing in and it came from a year and a half ago and came randomly don't work came from by started telling the story in. Here's the story. I'm sitting exactly what I'm right now. My wife in the house my wife about an office about seventy five feet. So I needed a piece of quiet have a main cater Bankin, and she called me. She got a call for our neighbors down the street, the two elderly, ladies, and she said, well, you know, they. Need some helping TV on? Can you go down on busy on a pretty good TV's on? Of course, you're gonna do whatever you can't for your neighbors. I tell you anything dri neighbor, right? Having a challenge. And so down the street help you with TV, though, big the pretty good TV's. I'm really gonna get to you. But I Don five minutes may might have much. You said we stay for milking cookies, so. Yeah. Love Milken cookies. Right. We don't like milk and cookies, especially from two older, ladies, you could probably Bank. Right. I mean all in. Yeah. So they're getting another cat. Their books. Right toffee day. See these books I opened his one book in the book is pictures of concentration camps. Now. I love World War Two history. Listen to a watch any show on off watch it anything. So they come back smoking cookies. Hey, wouldn't you get this is a mazing picture? She was they both said we were there they rolled up their sleeves show. These numbers down. There are lesser bowl. All I said, let me record story. We never stepped seventy eight years dole. Right. They're not going to be around. They have passed on. They were gonna be around much longer. I only was it. We will let you record it. But what tell you story? I heard his story about being in a concentration camp in surviving. I said that story right? There's also realizing these people he's two ladies survive when the most horrific situations in the history of the world. The knowing survivor thrive said how can I use this to help? Other people are going through these experiences. Nelson S story right there. I'd have said that stored outs. People running the stage knew when to tell me to Matic life experience. How can it yet not say like extra connecting people have gone through these experiences right while that one story this came? Clean my mind. The federal state for no reason now opened up a whole different world from it. I think that story back. It's a long way of answering. A question dancers law stories that I hear in. I've heard stories like that. If impacted me that story right there when I started the first time, I didn't know I was gonna play will set is opened up a whole different avenue for me. Yes. Of as always impacting talent. Absolutely. An it feels like part of the lesson there too. Is that? Stories connect us, which is kind of a common sense thing. But like picturing people flooding, the stage to tell you their story 'cause they they need that outlet connects us just like that's an incredible humanity thing right there. Yeah. Sorta Kauai connected that up like, you know, if I can do this is tells you if you're having a challenging day or you've had a really really started. When I spoke after hurricane urban, this is where I I smoke down at Florida speaking, hurricane Mariah dramatic life experience out connecting the DASA my story in that. I was with the Red Cross. But the what have you coming up with say? Yeah, we've lost this. We lost this, man. I never I never had anything like that. And also realizing there's always somebody worse out. There has something is survived. Something worse. One of I can give you that contrast for stage. The, you know, why yet you're having a bad day, Dan. Yeah. You've got a real bad day. Right. But you know, what he's survive something that no fix me people survive. Right. Let's let's talk connect you with that. Let me connect with people. I knew on if you. Contrast think you having a bad day. Let me tell you what bad. They really is. Man up or woman up and get your get your thing going, right? So that's opened up to me to help people. So I'm technology side of things you're on multiple platforms. You're on a stage. You're on digital. You're in podcast. You're at your everywhere. Right. Do you have a favorite platform? Was speaking stage is definitely my favorite. 'cause I impact a lot of people personally, but Kelly that that technology is mentioned moment ago is lobby now. Go around the world. That's changed. A lot of things for me. Because now I can get these brave these one or two minutes things out continent thoughts out if people from Australia England or Israel or now contacting where where on stage on with that group of east Lansing Michigan on classing Michigan. But if I could do that now me global is. So I think that that's probably gonna be my favorites. But the video is also becoming a very 'cause now visit video of I do the correct way. I can get around the world that way like what if you see me it can't touch me. But they could see me relate to me. So I think those are probably like two favorite and videos. So it almost it almost feels like you said a Dave you can't touch me. But you can see me almost feels base if face impersonal, it's probably one of the most personal. But I also think like I love podcast because I'm in somebody's head almost if you're wearing ear buds. I'm in your head. So it's just so it's so cool to see if. Different technologies. I even still like Twitter for stuff on Twitter little bit because it's is all the time. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So I I think I started with that. I think it's a great tool. But now, it's so overused. His I gonna help people Twitter all the time child. I. About. I'll get one. I'm watching my Red Wings, or if I want to talk about something else kind of inch. But yeah, I actually love Instagram right now. That's where I love spending my time place, right? Yeah. Which is so cool to see. Everybody's perspective. See their stories, there is absolutely awesome. But then I appreciate your time. And this has been an absolute blast as I said if you're in Michigan next time, I'm going to keep an eye out on your schedule. It will be Michigan either September October. Never let let you know. Once you have anybody out. There you go to schedule area contact to come here to speak now pajama personal guest list. I'll make an half an hour land in. If you wanna check it out. Check me out website find that Dave Sanderson speaks dot com. That way, you know, where they hadn't checked by daily fresh briefing us, Dave Sanderson the classified enough. Stay connected with me that way fantastic. I'll link in the show notes now before I let you go. If you somebody said to you, Dave you're done telling stories, you gotta find something else to do. What would your last story? Be that you'd wanna share. I think the last story would be is. You know, that's a great question. I mean, I haven't been asked that question. The last story be so the faith aspect, but on the. I would probably say that what the church with a lady that would probably be right up there. But when I got got to do a podcast in Taiwan, and it was for Radio Free China. Now, tell this story out saying because this story sort of helping sore start playing out here. I do this podcast is interviewing in Taiwan for Radio Free China. Right. Any translated into Mandarin. So now, I'm in the largest languages in the world. Right. So behind the evening of it. You do your thing. He come home. Right. But later that year in speaking along, especially churches at that time. I was home with the churches the Sunday before Pentecost as the first week. Get a navy base somewhere around there in all of a sudden my minister who who knew what I was doing. I didn't find this out to later. His daughter was on a mission or a sub cut trip to Beijing. I heard my interview in Nandrin. And called her a somebody from your church is over here talk. It. I didn't know this 'til after two here. He is in the middle of the sermon. He started rock and roll. Right. I'm there doing thing start focusing in also east tells the story about Jesus last words, this is story. I would tell these last his last words the cycles of the mount mount rise apostles. There you go around the world today s Mary in the world. The Holy Spirit will feel you. He says as Dave Sanderson's doing. And also my daughter's like, hey, dad, you will waking up they wait. Now. Everybody's looking at me. Now. Right. Also, I realized that's what's happening is my message is now going around the world. And this may be the mission. I put on earth for right is the share maybe total faith perspective. But if you believe strong enough, whatever you believe in things do come true. I think that'd be the last story. I would tell awesome tegray started out on. Awesome. Like, I said, we'll linked everything the show notes. Dave, thanks for your time today. Matt really appreciate it. Thank you for having me today. All right. So cool. What guy? Thank you so much for coming on the storytellers network podcast. Really do appreciate it as I said. And thank you for listening. If you want to connect with Dave as I mentioned all the links and the show notes check him out buys book, watches tedtalk. It's all there. Just a great guy a genuine good, dude. Who wants to spread a good word? So can't with Dave. 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Episode 140: How Sweep It Is. 8 Wins To Go.

The Short Porch

33:54 min | 1 year ago

Episode 140: How Sweep It Is. 8 Wins To Go.

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didn't the Minnesota twins I don't care who's on that roster on care who is on the Yankees roster they'll sweep them every single time they weren't capable of Venus fucking How fucking stupid or are we were scared of the twins we had a moment where we looked at each other and we said Oh my God we thought about Jacob it was really him this is your first seatgeek purchase joining Long Sammy we're all headed to the Ale cs baby my coast my compadres Tommy Smokes Tomsk belly and my heart was in my mouth just the entire game I mean anytime you have a game where it's a chance to clinch in on a limitation game for one team it's always so much more exciting and just I mean fucking meeting get the Fuck Outta here I love the little baggage with you have to say you're going to bring some bag of tricks you don't get your nothing you got nothing bags it just at the end of the day Whoa what's up what's happening welcome visit one day Holy Shit on now Tuesday yeah it's only kill I say something right away what's up man we need to go back to our preview of the series and just said a bit more watch a couple of game five in the NFL on on a Wednesday stress-free just gear up for an absolute war it's going to be a fucking war whoever it is I'm going to be I mean we we streamed it felt like we were stream for hours watching all the Games today there were four games today we are emotionally drained I think survived the gambling eh all the jams they got out of severe early he's didn't have that second inning hold the defense check Labor Dj Judge Deedee at the I mean it was like one of the and then the defense is substitution can remain although I guess he didn't really have to make any good place but just a better defender out there and then judge obviously no one makes catching right field office knows beg tricks or the light sauce yeah let's make make us live in the dark yeah our whole fucking off full of power okay we don't need the fucking lights on Dr Than Than Judge I mean Britain off the mound getting that fucking to get the I was unbelievable my God yeah hurt him but still have a recall we don't know what's wrong Ayush I don't think you know I didn't lose I was unbelievable good great fucking baseball game how such a good game it was so stressful more flawless defensive games I've ever seen Yankees play and like in the past defense hadn't been their calling card really like you know they added the digital mayhew and all that uh which DJ almost trump's although as an infield fly and then just fucking destroys the next two hitters believe it was Gonzalez like we can just sit back we have five days to reenergize playoff baseball it straight emotionally draining we have five days now we watch the Astros and raise hopefully beat up on each other cave to strikes them out I almost thought he was putting people on base in this game just to strike them out and screaming their face doing bumps let's make this fun Luis Severino starts the game and right off the bat just couldn't throw a fastball first-strike everything was everything was up he did have his other two pitches changes I was actually really really good tonight and slider was devastating at times like some of the most unhittable size are ever seen his second inning loads the basis nobody out in Grinky Game One oh my God and that means you'd have to start in key stadium game five will he'll love a mental breakdown after that Christ so let's get into the game I it is Nice fucking they could somehow win that game four and then take out our land or game one yeah and then I thought for lenders starting strike them out and then the fourth inning was really we're we're debating would you send them out there you go battered by batter forget who they canley warming up in that third inning basis in the second inning and I said to everybody I'm like hey we get out of here down to one we take that happy with I mean you didn't know where those your stuff his fastball as when the third inning was also a little dicey dig a tomb then shrieks guard anything once again just putting guys on with him but that we weren't gonNA survive three-game series in the place of that injury let's let's I spoke at we were like Oh we're GONNA guy here clean no snow granted the Yankees have got an early run in the top second flavors homer labour will get into just he's a ridiculous human being he's so good at baseball but SEVERNA loads you're not Zach Britton nope you're not surviving this one good thing we're off till Saturday so maybe he can get some job good mental break scrape physical mental break for the players before us to like the cardinals Carlos Martinez like why p. knows he's warming up he's like Oh my God and then he sucks and then the the Astros John smoltz heats New York it was five to one he's going to get some rally going what's he dropped it unfortunately unfortunately like that one just didn't get out and they didn't get enough on that one crazy watching throughout the season listen I'm locked into the Yankees I'll see other teams here near when I bet on them but on the plus I'm watching every single game no-one good bullpen and then he ends up having a great fourth-inning it was very very easy that fastball is locating all this he gets through four innings that's all you need that's only four show that one's kind of stuck star the briefs Car ranch cards was good yeah and the astros routed the defensive display all God who was unbelie like Joe I mean come on like I understand you want to keep the audience captive but he was a straight a brooding for the twins it was fruit it was literally route what he's doing and let's just keep your mouth shut we have this bullpen no I no I'm saying like it makes sense in the crazy thing I imagine ten years ago be like Oh yeah we just need four innings of our starter and we're gold I will say that every single time baseball I I agree I would sign up for that but just crazy like baseball in two thousand nineteen like four innings from taking it Ktar like he just made a decision for he's like he didn't let him go that one more battle and see what happens like you know what fuck it we have a good bullpen US everybody right so then when he comes out of the game early not one per now one team has a good bullpen besides us like the car day try to say good bullpen what they tried to finish everything the Fuck Donald smaltz we screamed he screamed want easy need to pump myself get people on base to take him down and he's like I gotTa make sure people remember like who I am and like how exciting I can be to give him just one batter Friday night and tonight I guess you just didn't do his job either time and they didn't want to risk it but he was pretty much brought into the game two in both games to get Nelson Cruz think of the last time he played the twins and all that bad memories come in you know he's had bad start she's really good starts in the plaza there's a little bit of both he got odd repair down he gets the Infield they bring in green right and that leads to easily the most electric moment of the night even close so there's and then the national disaster viable in any disaster that's absolutely issues Corbett incorporates not used to being reliever and then you've got the Yankees and it's just like Komo yeah so he's already came one unless they're going to put them on short rest again the I don't see that say don't forget what coal out so then you started even if you're going to be quite let us call the game or something like that just insane I mean you expected though that's just what John smoltz says he's just it's amazing I didn't I think you need to throw strikes October and they know he's very capable of just not throwing strikes is losing the strike zone and maybe they don't WanNa risk right so do like he's quit he was yeah being chew binder Jewish with like juice dating back to Joe Girardi you know they're more analytical and they even were under Girardi right right thing yeah I mean we'll send well yeah no the sixth thing wasn't because that's where judge had to make that catch sight seventh-inning was a little dicey I guess well we got all these guys and they're great one and they're awesome it's almost like their bullpen usage just been weird though like on a Venos- been used for like one at a time what is that it's almost it shocked it's Chris still bitter over ninety six ninety nine I mean I usually when people like announcer by Bob La hates my team are usually thinks a little ridiculous who ends up hitting it was a zero he grounds out to sex so the Yankees are in this crazy shift Rosaria hits it into into pretty much shallow right field glacier has to slide Chevy Ford how the plays we made tonight were show perfect they literally looked like the globetrotters out there basically baseball and while it's going on US idiots were streaming the gamers a to his left spin around and make a throw and DJ scoops it it was just it was all happening too quick and it was just the most unbelievable play and it speaks to what we GEICO fifteen guys tonight the bullpen comes and they lose the game you know and then I guess the race they've pretty salty to like I don't think they're going to be advancing just send them out there may be like foxy likes the outrage that like Oh here we go people listen Johnson to hear the bias or something like that was the fourth inning like the only clean trying to make even more we need to make an exciting we made it exciting on her own I don't even know how how did it start with the SEC Frankie was saying how like him and his friends the seventh inning was let the first guy on and then bring came in and was so that was probably the the most lax obviously the eighth wasn't because Britain anything like we didn't have to worry about anything and everything they was like Holy Shit yet another gym was jumbled green six there was the double down left but then he got yeah I had the peak of my career outside of one star to check earns baseball camp three innings eight strikeouts in the playoffs was second base a play field too table and knocked over from distance this is also like we made it too easy hopelessly throw wasn't very difficult to make but so we're all going to the glare plan the fuck just happened holy rape play back to the play yeah back to the actual though the best play the game best play a game goes ailing over my head I make a huge jump come down with the crowd goes wild magog cheering I checked my it's my gloves so might leaping ability second base unparalleled this Christ thank God that didn't happen but the glare play was crazy I'm just going through the defense was obviously judges playing right no one makes that play besides Aaron judge six grade the blue team line dry basis low team by your plan was I was the blue team saline Utah too tall mookie betts you're good rightfielder all that you don't make that play that was that was on the wall waiting for one hundred percent Lemay Hugh I said I could play first down of time he was confident anything I would probably choose second I think I don't think it would do it was we really don't win the game without the throw you miss like yeah and then we'd be all idiots trying to hit it the whole game like taking away he just throws it in a fucking we celebrate his harder than the replied yeah those cleanest transfer you ever see fastest hands in America and I fuck in pummeled we're GONNA just call out somebody in use a beanie bag TJ was gonNA throw a beanie begged somebody really fast and quickly transfer and throw it to a water bottle the city next pitch next yes and he was it was a it was a classic Gardy fighting off pitches battle and then he squibb's it out just past the third baseman down the field lines scores run just the most classes I feel very unnoticed because I mean that was not very weird short off from a weird angle also how many times do you think labor practices that type of play probably not many at all like how many the time would you be able to be like have Robinson hitting ability but have your fielding ability would you be able to play in the MLB were they like send your house yeah I for sure I definitely remarry a homer and it has to leave because he got her an ninth officers and then is was man that was summit God they chose to go back to what I said about the bullpen the game and the Hollywood have tried to throw he probably start a fire nailed it no smoking broke the direct TV wouldn't be able to watch the game would have gone out although it out I was on my fielding was okay they stuck to you in right field all the time I feel second base everyone go look Tommy's jumping let me know if you could play second base he wasn't good at the plate but he was fantastic at first overall he was really caught a line drive called Alendronate Glee Glare not getting enough attention pick on the is it that's a guy like they debate why he's the three-hitter and we said still probably right that Labor should be that three hitter and we'll see what they do at Houston but it does break it's tweet on the short portion everywhere and all of a sudden frank goes do the thing into the game and Tj tosses Marty the bag and then even I think that if I won't it's moments like that when you the world series you moment you're looking back and it's like throw you remember money's throws unbelie I mean if I missed that throw the Yankees lose a game yeah so explain it to people just weren't watching so tha deficit we basically said anytime a ground ball you wanna be a home run I thought he'd driven somebody else but I guess he was he was the Guy Getting because Didi end up having to its to RBI's continues the just fuck me the face although I only said server came to I didn't say game the dumbest Sabbath good whatever whatever's goes I know it's a good thing to be very one of the first inning when when Brett Gardner like wise this fucking guy aren't it's definitely start smell yeah we need to talk about this because we all have our little superstition thing Thomas is by far the worst I got the wrong so Mardi fucking siesmic practice Goddamn he's awesome twenty two fucking years old can't run to at the plate three for three or four I thought I was going through the game and I copied we'd rather anybody else I think it's third or like or whatever it was like we just don't trust him in this spot like how you pitch them you think they'll keep Garner there because you got all the power ain't broke don't fix it three they have lost but also shot it's your shirt shirts electric I think it's what I know many shoes to wear a pair of shoes and marking okay eating I'm eating one thousand grams of sodium I have bird shit on my shirt can mcgrigor to wear a hat or something that's not even a superstition I have what I have many shoes I only only wearing these shoes and that's crazy with no notice limit on that Khan honestly when tire lions is warming up in anything I'm getting a little excited though salary was wrong it was exciting he was excited they can't pitch a pitch I mean looks pretty the only guy who gave a run tonight was the guy who got hurt is pitching hurt so sounds pretty good to me I mean it's pretty good put the other two outs probably saw combined fifteen pitches or something like that he's found at the pitch swing seeing the ball that will translate hopefully he gonNa win the Yankees my brain saw the Yankees winning but that shirt is so the next man up I mean Dj Oh for today Edwin Ofer Stanton couldn't even come close is that moving in yeah top to bottom and you know to translate back to the bullpen and the pitching this team everyone said this team couldn't pitch every naysayers I love that man I love all them now I mean the thing about this team like if something they all just keep picking each other up I mean. Dj played terrible at the I mean there was only Britain crazy wild pitch that went like I mean that was all the cutter to think but I don't think anyone advanced Garrard's defense when you're not talking about a good thing like pass falls nothing there was just weeded me before he tweeted out a series clinching tweet so no big deal but whatever judge gave judge gave Labor the championship belt after the game the wire when they played the twins and Minnesota early this year I mean every fly ball was a home run a plate great in the field Gary Came Gary came play he played well today he's hitting kennesaw knock on wood we can find whatever it is post are pushing us also I was thinking if they do win the world series we can sell this shirt with a Burchett stain on it okay takes donations I'm making sure this goes in cooperstown camera he just tweeted you did he really thought he saw the tweet you twenty eight booth Golden Stupid go team of God that guy get hit by a bus fucked and we're probably going to hear more I know one advanced on that only the passed ball by Britain is only passport but he also look good at the planet Gary now nothing to show for it well he did it that one the ball and then maven comes in his home run like they keep fucking coming up and get hit but it was like a Bloomberg yes bullshit I just love this fucking team right now so good we love headwinds birds shitting on yeah let's let's win the fucking that's yet let's hear I don't know what else controls stupid Fox was the cavern yeah here's the here's the moon was a little joystick in the there's something weird so obviously when we played the twin spot the camera maybe let me get my phone quick seconds clout Tommy could get all my drawl that's cool speaking of him he just comes in hits a home run out of fucking no we didn't that was that Bosnia for five minutes because of all the other other pop ups just looked like it was going on but I mean everyone's just feeling good right now it's so nice that they just got this out of the way we say Chad Green you know credit to chat green yeah I mean I want to give him enough credit he really in your he's like you can't take your suing ever wash ever watch yeah okay well thanks for narrow okay yeah for four they won the last three Oh nine sweep ten sweep that's nine wildcard third I don't like Trans and I said Talk Behind Chapman I'm keeping him there green finish the season strong playoff performer I love I love her oldest Chapman Yeah Kinley out of you bridge the gap when you burned out keenly through the fifth inning we did our bullpen trust tree on a Friday the live show I was the only one that gave Chad Green love talk real quick before we get into the end of the show Indochino Indochino was founded on the belief that you don't need to spend a fortune on a custom wardrobe you just WanNa look you sought fans relieving in the sixth inning there's like we've seen an we're we're all set here just just a fucking disaster but so let's shame on we'll figure it out oh Jesus okay well anyways Indochino is the world's largest made to measure menswear brand they make suits shirts coats and more the bills lose and bad and then the Yankees have beaten them themselves I think it's twelve the series x t the two all time thirteen Right here is this is really it's one twenty nine in the morning but would you know when you talk about anytime you pick your design customisations and submit your measurements your package will be delivered straight to your door in just two weeks you can get a measured and design and design your suit at one of your Asians acquitting work events and even your own wedding the best part is that they are affordable almost all their custom clothing is under four hundred dollars the process is simple you choose your fabric this I think when we were all on but I don't like trends but when you being a team like they have unless fifteen years yeah it's just it's now in the N. 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Episode 50 Thomas Cantley Executive Producer

The Lights, Camera, Pro! Podcast

31:26 min | 5 months ago

Episode 50 Thomas Cantley Executive Producer

"Welcome to the lights camera. Pro podcast where we interview entertainment pros about their careers and how they became successful in the industry the secret to their success here every week. Here's your host sean tura. Hey everybody welcome to the lights camera. Pro podcast and your host shaw vittore and i just want to say go to apple podcasts and spotify and subscribed rate in review. We also have movie reviews and television show reviews okay. Today's guest is a great guy. His name is thomas canley. And he's an actor director cinematographer. Hey everybody welcome to the lights. Camera pro podcast. On your host. Sean and tour and today we are here with thomas can't leave. He is a director and producer Thanks for doing this thomas while yeah thanks. Thanks for having me a lucky running. Yeah this is called. you're doing this So you are a director and producer. And i will just ask the first question. How did you know when did you know five or you in high school in college. When did you know that you wanted to be a director and a producer. Well you know. It's it's funny. It started quite quite young Where my mom Sometimes it starts from you know. Mom's parents living vicariously. Kind of my mom started putting me when i was younger when i finished my awkward phase while i went through many awkward phases but at one point when i was like the small window whereas pretty cute she put me into commercials in and did some little bit of tv. Acting as as a child. And i realized i was super passionate about like watching the people behind the camera. And that's kind of where my i love When i was around like ten to thirteen and then cut. I just kind of took a break because i got heavy into sports. And what sports what were you doing. I was a pretty competitive hockey player. Cool through my. I was seventeen. I was drafted Until i having three three concussions of the florida. Panthers oh wow and what position hours right wing. Okay cool yes. You're you're getting knocked around. Yeah all right so so you are on sets and you're seeing the cameras and the lights like this is cool Go from there. Where do you go next well. My mom wanted me to do the typical college route. You know. she didn't truly understand or support like kind of she wanted to be an actor in front but when i started to like really want to take pursuit behind the camera she didn't really understand it so she said to me she goes. Hey thomas to have a sustainable career you need to do get you a bachelor of arts or something like just get good college for four years and you know i kind of rebel so i just kind of all right finding gonna stick me in college than this isn't what i wanna be. I'm gonna drink the money away then. Kinda kicked out of school until you listen to me and i'm gonna go to film school so i only lasted two years. In to my my. My mom was tired of wasting money and she said art fine. Let's let's put in film school. So i ended up going to My dad's from the us and my mom's canadian dual and i ended up going vancouver film. School kick my kick my career. That's kind of where it all started was in my when i was twenty awesome. Indeed did you just take over all filmmaker program or what was your major yet. I took a phone intensive one year program of just the foundations of everything touching into animation. Just every single department and area and that's what kind of kind of got my focus of just kind of figure out where i wanted to be at that point. I truly actually wanted to be a dp camera operator That's where my career took. Its path for quite some time. So do you get a job as a dp or viagra for somewhere to start out after college. What happens next yes so it was funny. I got a funny story. When i was going to school because i was on a typical. You know learner. I you know i mean like any of us a lot of adhd and and i had dyslexia so even when i was informed school was still is very technical is very grades in orientated. I just i wasn't the the grading system would happen like what you were able to do with your final projects were based on your grade. So as my passion was directing. I didn't get to draft any project. So at that point i was like screw this and i was just going to carry out my carry out my degree but then i ended up getting an opportunity to work on a pretty big movie Which is called battle in seattle which was directed by stuart townsend. Shirley was in joshua jackson would be harrelson. The whole nine yards zoo and yet and Stewart came in the drummer or noticed actor. There from vampire i think is. Yeah vampire something. Yeah yeah And so you know he was doing his own. I first indy only one million budget. He had all these actors because everybody's Theorin his wife so right. I remember that yet so i ended up being his assistant and i miss toyota my school and ended up getting called him by the dean saying thomas. We're going to have to terminate you from the program because Because of your attendance in your grades are are lacking and and so. I had to go back to stewart stewart. I got i gotta leave. I gotta finish the program. I'm going to my mom's gonna kill me and he goes dude. I need you because this is where you're going to be learning. This is this is how you're going to gain your experience. He's like lemme lemme figure something out so he ended up writing allowed her. Charlie's dropped me off at the front of the school and came in and was stewart. Came in with me and and to his teacher said just. Don't kick this kid out of school. He is such a hard worker. He's just an awesome guy. And i need him. Let's kula yes. It was kind of like that really. I just fell in love with behind a kevin smith to my school. That was one of the one of the reasons why ended up wanting to go over there But i was. I was in the self-discovery mode of where i wanted to be in what i wanted to do. And that experience was stuart and just kind of working so closely with the director and the actors and everything and just really shaped my passion for the industry relies. That school was great. I got my foundation which was amazing But you know the onset experiences just the absolute truth of where of truly where you learn at all. Yeah absolutely agree so another movie or do you go on and get a job. What's next. I kind of hopped around peeing. Just trying to insert myself anywhere possible. You know like you know. The biggest thing is i recommend people always is just. Your personality is so important and who you are where you put yourself out so just always marketing yourself constantly because a lot of crews will bring the same people along so i ended up kind of hopping around a lot of shows from good luck chuck peeing in working my way up As a location location manager and Working on the l word not the reality show but the actual tv show And on that for a couple of seasons You know worked my way up to eighty hours a trainee eighty and then i started like looking into the camera apartment and shadowing some cam rops and stuff like that. Just kinda trainy training there. I didn't go union but just was kind of you. Know kind of out of shaping my career in realizing that. I didn't want to be in the ad. Y- pa were all that. I was really interested in the camera department. And that's what kind of took my career to the next level where i ended up deciding to move to new york city and leave canada and take a giant step and at and take the next opportunity where the rest of my career for fifteen years was in york very cool and i'll just throw in a quick little. Pa story because i was a pa. New york. I was an actor in the theater but i was trying to work in movies. I did some gripping But i was pa for a while at five in the morning to shoot a busta rhymes video. And it was actually. I think it was at a strip club actually and You know everybody's setup. He was supposed to be there somewhere around noon. Maybe one o'clock and he's showed up at midnight. Everybody everybody got double pay. We didn't get out of there to like eight. The next morning it was insane. Some of us had other jobs to go to's insanity but the guy showed up about eleven hours late for his music. His music video wasn't even like someone else stephanie. Little story so where do you go from there. Yes so for me. It was like new york assisted totally different beasts. Do you know any place. You go to uri from new york. No massachusetts but i was there for twelve years in. Yeah i tell you everything. Moves faster in new york for sure. Not yeah exactly so. I'm not really you know grew me as A producer essentially. Because when i got there. I was in the generation of like when dsl ours like just coming out. Like i think my first camera in purchasing. Because i was like okay i need to do all i ended up getting the cannon forty But also the time had the panasonic but the p two. I had the p two and so i ended up getting these cameras. Had no idea what i was doing because i was like everything was just thrown out from film school. Because now i'm like here. I am the real deal. I'm like shit. Lenses lenses. Everything and then i ended up you know because i was in that generation to select two thousand seven. Two thousand eight was that transition of those cameras where a lot of people were shooting photo video and i ended up doing a lot of photo work in the beginning because i ended up. I was just hanging out during fashion week at bryant park and i saw this one photographer guy and his name was rajini and he was shooting for interview magazine. And he's a pretty big pretty big dude in the industry that are still is and i just went up to him and i said hey man i got i got my My pizza i got my cannon. And i was just like can i just come shadow. You can i just like. I don't even know you hold your bags. I'll do whatever community camera. I'm here like you know. I have experienced. He's like you don't pay me anything on for the whole week. I'll just come common shadow yuna goes sure all right so just as awesome dude. I went in and he goes like all right. You take the garin. Can you sit in the pet. So i ended up here. I am like have my cannon around my neck. you know. Have my camera carrying his staff in the pit and you know shooting lacoste. And just while he's doing any show stuff they're shooting a little bit like another angle for him and he just teaching me things and he's like dude. I love how you're just on your toes your quick. You're ready to learn like as like. I'll come here every day for you and deuteronomy do and i did that with him and i created a relationship with him where he kinda ended up being his camera. Cest and jumping around a photo shoots working with anthropology. And i ended up working my way up Shooting stills and video for an apology. I went from you. Know a third cameras To all the way to shoot in For the client and in that transition point. I ended up really working in that fashion world where i ended up doing doubling up shooting video as well so a lot of these big fashion designers ended up getting on a show called project runway in the season and started shooting a lot of behind the scenes and just kind of creating my own business now at this point and confidence and notoriety in the fashion world. What was that like working on that show. Because everybody's seeing that show is like forty seasons twenty so funny i was. I was in the season. He's not. I came in with when christian million is like now. He's the judge in kind of run the show now like i shot him before he was nobody. I remember you know being there. And he was just so shy and quiet. And some of the other artists got to work with a carried on cruise with kevin He is a relationship and partnership. He did I did a video for him. On the side with k. mart. And adam levine. Doing so mike side the work for them doing their collaboration line for kmart. But like i mean. I did about four seasons of project. Runway is pretty cool. Show like just working with all these designers and then also on the side like being in that place as well where you know. Video is so hot and that kind of behind the scenes raw little indie. Look like getting ready. All that stuff was. I was in that whole beginning. Stage now was that guy ended up working also for justin timberlake for his william. Rast line doing all the behind the scenes video stuff like that for fashion week daily in all that cool. Did you ever meet justin to see him. I did i met him. I met him said okay to speak candidate. Joe yeah. I was backstage in a shooting. His stuff in and Just standing there waiting like you know. I think it was putting a card and justin was like looking at me giving me dirty luck. And like who's his guy and designers. Thomas who shoots are back to anyway she just kind of like you know like who is guy. Who's a slight pictures. Yeah he's like who's dish like you know but but yeah he's just. I mean not the friendliest i mean you just kinda gave me a nod in there. I mean he's he's got big things going on and he's doing his thing but it's you know to me. He didn't have the out of all the celebrities that i work with the matt. He wasn't the nicest i would say. Right we just talked to somebody who worked with catherine zeta jones and they were like She's not the most approachable person house. We'll just leave that there. Go any deeper than that. But she's a legend and she has to rush the whole thing but yeah so that's interesting just to hear that story about what happened to you with him. So what's next is the pilot next. Or is there some other gigs or so so yeah i mean a lot of it was You know i just. I went to doing these students. Music videos in working and and don't take it too far off course but i ended up strong passion for documentaries so ended up getting hired advice media and i was a producer advice there independently producing and shooting and directing Some smaller for the online sections Nothing that went streaming or anything. But it's more like the online portions like your new yorker. Probably in the same time when i was there too and was like a you know was around and they had their like live page stuff so i was like a lot of my stuff was for web on vice and That point ended up getting cancer so hit me at a nowhere. You know twenty six years old All this that happened here is on the time span of six years Explained to new york just goes so fast and then a kind of set me back a little bit. But then i put myself as a As subject so. I ended up creating awareness campaign pushing a giant ball across america which i got a time media coverage new may or may not hurt about it button. I was in every single me. News media outlet and it was a documentary called mr ballsy and That was kind of my. I like big big independent project. That i did on my own. And then which. Which that did you have someone with you or did you just set up these extension arm cameras extreme selfie cameras yay go pros and then i had a buddy of mine. Who was with boom pitcher. Do you know boom pitchers. Have you heard of them. So the guy there but a mind map ginsburg who created the show. Inked ended up kinda going. I was like you know kind of allow always a hustler. Kind of pitching my concepts and south. And i said hey man like i just need to come up with a cool idea to i cancer like i don't wanna do the same story that everyone else does you know just typical documentation and he goes so him and i it on getting this giant six football and he said you know you really need to draw people in so we collaborate on the idea of just starting from a. to new york and just doing kind of like craigslist. Joe like we had organically get people and and we had to completely rely on food shelter and travel all through the kinds of people. Because i had no money and i was like all right. This is a great idea. Because then i have no money so i can shoot this whole thing run. Do it do it all in kind in that way. So it's like indie film again at the most and then a buddy of mine who have and i went to school together. He shoots her amazing race. And he was actually. He's originally from malaysia. You need as the australian chosen savvy. I got tenure visa. Denial come down and shoot your tour for you. So cool janas did that. Awesome man Is there somewhere. People can see that documentary Right now we're doing a re cut on it It is called mr ballsy but we will resurfacing it again. Because it's just it's kinda like that. I forget what documentary was about a guy who A guy who ended up taking twenty years to finish dock and then. That's kind of where i'm at right now. Thirty six thirty seven and we did a small release version before. And i wasn't happy with it and then that in now it's st doesn't fifteen when i did another cat in that now it's like finally i'm doing another new kuttan twenty man. Yeah made a bunch of short films re edited and with these podcast. It's hard to let him go. It's like oh. I'm gonna fix it. I'm gonna fix outing excited at some point. You gotta just move on. yeah now. it's tough to let stuff go but maybe come back later a decent with it. So is this where we get into the pilot now very close also somewhere so we're in new york ended up my white. I ended up meeting my wife who is a celebrity producer. Shoes at nbc ochre She's an emmy award winner and she's probably someone you might you might want to interview. But she's She's big time. So have you heard of the william per studios in new. I have yes. She is one of the originals. They're like her class was You know i'll leave a lot for for for another time for you to interview her. She would be awesome discussed. she's amazing. she was one of the Her class was amy schumer. A bunch of other major celebrity's in books thought her like balestra who ended up passing away. recently was acting yes in akron studio. It's the top acting studio sort of so. But i ended up meeting her. She's a producer. Nbc and we got married and now have a son but we said we wanted to move on new york city. Where like. where's the next spot. So that was elena so she ended up getting a gig to do Delta delta delta gig. And i ended up in at the same time. We also got another gig to do the nbc olympics. And so i was drafting the commercials For for real the olympics so we ended up moving here and So she was delta at the same time to back and then we were pregnant while she was and then and then i ended up hopping around if you places doing home depot running scripture deepa coca cola and i was doing the producing the e fat tournament in the music video with jason derulo Now at the pilot. So i just kind of gave all set up version. Sure but you know and so in two thousand eighteen yet. We did My wife and i had this should really cool story where it was about a cult and she was in this called and i said we have to turn this into a tv show and she said all right do and because i've just now you've heard my career. I've i've had my hand in like literally. Every single pot run built a great network in atlanta here and so because of the acting studio that she's connecting tunes and stuff like that one of our dear friends who's on the show ozark. He's one of the main characters on ozark. Now he's on. Outsiders is mark chaka He played dursey. Have you seen our. Yeah see plays russ. He plays the bearded uncle who humans getting killed was that i saw first two seasons though yes he was he was the gay guy. He hit the gay interaction with the. Okay yeah yeah okay. so now. He's the lead on outsiders He has a shaved head in. Looks completely different. jason bateman states as like his top actor. While he's he's one of my wife's really good friends and so we wrote him as the lead I said to him. I said oh my god he would be amazing leader and my wife was like kay we can only republi probably won't be able to get him for very long so i wrote the whole entire script based on just using the whole pilot based on Not revealing him until the very end and just avi l. at and so building whole script up so we ended up building a whole entire sixty person crew shooting locally using camera ready program And shooting our whole entire pilot. Doing it crazy. Legs ended up. Doing you know an editor from z. Likes in the post production everything and then we ended up my executive producer Ended up having a great connection with danny sussman who represents quite a bit of celebrities and and currently before copay we negotiations with a guy who is the founder and owner of crackle the streaming network. Who wanted to buy our pilots on our kind of in that phase. Right now where we're just kind of in lieu where everything kind of froze waiting for it to to pick up again because they're interested in buying pilot but now we're like okay. What's what's the most. And can i just ask you like the tone of the show. Is it like the following where it's creepy and there's murder or is it like a comedy or somewhere sick ozark dark it's it's it's more like Like girls so it's it's kinda like meet transparent a little bit like kinda messed up But a lot of humor you know. It's just really dark. Humor not laugh out loud funny but it's like more shocking Okay Sammy testing yes. It's it's a little bit. It's shot more brighter vibrant kennels. Send you private Link as well to but it's Yeah i love it and so you're just waiting to hear because of kobe. Yup yup on very cool man. I mean not many people do that. I've always wanted to do a feature. I made four. Shorts aren't so let's wrap it up with any advice that you have for the younger people. I'm sure you have a ton of advice because you have the school and you had a. I mean you're thirty seven but you've had a long creative done a lot of different stuff. What is your advice for people who want to work in the Film and tv industry to say. It's i mean it's like our industry like no other and there's any time you can make a job transition if you're someone that's in a job that you're unhappy with right now. I mean it's just it's about making that giant leap and taking that opportunity whether it's you have that regular job and you wanna do something on the side and you just wanna create art. You need that balance. But it's like just so important you know like robinson as you mentioned earlier. It's just it's like it's it's so important to do. do it. Makes you happy and do what you love and you know in our industry all takes is is dr passionate heart. Everything else is trainable. You know you can can learn all through those aspects but having vision Is just we all have our own stories you know in every story has you know has an opportunity to see the light of day with these platforms that we have just out just say cre- content put yourself out there. Take risks don't Don't limit yourself because you know this life is the only yeah absolutely. I was just talking to a woman yesterday who a life coach and she has her own photography business and she also has a podcast and and she works with a lot of people who dislike. I can't do it you know. I can't leave my job. I can't my kids soccer games. i can't i. Can't i can't and she just left her company to a friend who's a photographer and for two years traveled on the road with her husband. Who's musician and lived in a sprinter van and and she absolutely loved it and it. Change your life in recharged. Her creativity and my girlfriend went to paris and lived for three months because she got laid off in something she always wanted to do. And i've done stuff like that so it's like you have to do the things you want to do in your lifetime. Whether it's make a feature film or go live in paris because you only have one life man awesome and this has been great. Thanks so much for doing this. And it's so cool. I had no. I needed to school and the pilot but i had no idea did all that other stuff with the fashion shows and and the school sounds really cool. So thanks for doing this. Thomas thank you thanks. Thanks for having me all out promote anyway. In a way. I can free podcasts. Yeah sharing or do whatever on on social media to get it out there but I will definitely you are twenty eighth and ten. So it'll be awhile. But i'm actually posting two week so cool and hopefully i can continue that because my freelance has stopped for awhile and else i mean if you want my wife to. Because she sam her stories are like you think she's got i mean. She was the producer. Martha stewart will steer went to jail. All like she has absol- she an actress or tissues and actress that slash producer. Okay but very goal. And what's her name. Ashley canley You look up. Her on link dan or whatever or yes absolutely. I mean i could tell you that i will. Also i will text you in a little bit. I'm going to vacation next week on. Like just got a new job and she needs to get out of the house so but we're gonna take a week off and then i will contact her contact you and you can give me her phone number and we'll set up a time to interview. 'cause i love love love talking to actors because i acted for ten years and can totally relate. Oh you will love that and then and let me and yeah when you get back to. I can think of some other. People are pretty big rolodex and if you had a semi some text. I've actually met some incredible people through other guests and also through the friends. I've met people who worked on that seventies show the family guy and the simpsons a guy who just Was the show runner for the new show. Bruise brothers ace Just so many people man. I can't even go through them all that this guy should just worked on is the art director for tenant. Christopher nolan's new movie and he's working mines The rocks black adam. dc and. He's worked on the walking dead. I mean on hunger games. Like i mean really interesting stories man so cool and it's just really a great to do these interviews because i'm learning stuff from people and And i think what i'm creating is not to compete with their school. But i just realized that this is a great resource or will be in the future when i have fifty one hundred two hundred of these people. Oh i want to be an actor. I wanna be a dvr. Just go listen to that interview and against so much great advice and and stories about what. It's like to be an actor on tv. What it's like to be a dp and felt so no totally. Yeah and that's not an you know by any means there's no competition totally different thing. Yeah this is like a you know a half hour long. Walk with your dog or while. you're taking. This is competing with the school at all. But yeah i'll definitely interview. Why if she's interested in any you know and text. That would be great man. I totally appreciate it. Yeah this is an kuhlman. Great day thanks for doing this to all right. Thank you for listening to the lights camera. Pro podcast where entertainment pros talk about how. They made their dream into a career. Go to apple podcasts. And spotify and subscribe rate and review. Thanks to bob. Juergens the rock envio and joseph mcdade for the music. We also have movie reviews and television show reviews. Thanks so much next time.

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DPT LIVE - Zach Galifianakis  - McNothing

Dumb People Town

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DPT LIVE - Zach Galifianakis - McNothing

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He's going to do what i would consider what he's already said is the saddest version of the dumb people original. I would you please welcome. Saw mute yourselves. Your your microphones right. Now he's portion and you can bring it back up afterwards as we bring in. We want you to hear the crystal clear sound of our friend. John paul ally john. Paul white a common there. You go give clinton chew and salmon. Sure you fed you a some one big name. Thank you need a think you a so cute jews. You saw Good but walk in and so on and so on me do soup a to meet me. Would soon you all so on a took the future. Cooley new. Maisy man and it's so good so beautiful right. Do you want to do your version of the dump people town theme song. I'm so excited. And i when i send it to you like a month ago. You're like all right. I'll whip something up so here. We go john paul white his version. So remember you guys again and then you can bring it back on and give him the applause. 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What's happening assume it's the same as it has been for the past hundred years we but we don't leave our house to your own corentin ever since you've been down there because of the pandemic mind your own business very. Don't tell them you're a musician. Got it. well we're so excited you hear gonna play songs throughout. You're gonna join us throughout for shall we bring in. Okay we're bringing in our guest this one of our oldest friends. He's he was at call them at the purple onion maybe at the purple onion. I'm just gonna list the credit that you guys probably know him from the most apartment two f and and he is known as dennis. Dublin's good friend. Would you please welcome the great zach elephant one. Hi zack how are you. I'm doing really well randy i like. You're hat that's the best joke about the hat all night. A problem with your hat randy. Is you have a hat on it. Looks like a guy that has something always important to say something. It's always worth. You guys understand. Yeah not eating enough corn gravy. Always wants to know what the allotted time is. Yeah he's going to show you where all the exits are. I'm here i'm here with. He's the guy he's the guy in the market. The only guy that it'd be wear that had asked for cantaloupe in the winter. Excuse me where are the samples people. Well we love to as we get started. Dan his Research your guys birthdays. Little game called. What's your florida man. How it's your birthday and then the news that happened on that day. We're getting a little bit of echo. Thank you for being with us. I promise we'll figure it it out. Okay we're gonna go. So we have the florida man birthday jack. You're going to go first. According to the internet which is never wrong or leads people astray. Your birthday is october. I is that correct. All right here. We go headline for your florida. Man is florida man arrested. For throwing bible at deputies. That's looking at him this guy just to throng he wearing bike shorts or is that underwear. I can't tell what he's wearing he's back. I mean i definitely wouldn't expect this guy to wear shirt and is that the biggest bible you've ever seen yes also look at it. He just look at the dog. The dog is like i'm ready to leave. If you're ready my new phone. I mean i. I've never seen a bible printed on just loose leaf paper. Well here's isn't real Here's the blurb. According to the marion county sheriff's office. Robert bob hoskins hoskins guy believe it confronted deputies and yelled i commend you for throwing a bible towards the deputies. This was like gotta love and enjoying it. That's right whatever projection hoskins thought. He had was quickly proven false as he was immediately. Taste dairy go immediately. So he was to be friends with the cops and i guess what would jesus do. Jesus just taste em. Yeah by the way. If someone is not beyond we can hear it so Oh turn it up. Get that fucking bills came on. This is why we want you guys as bikes out so we can hear sportscenter while we do show fired guy. Tear it down. okay here. We go ready for birthday happy. Belated birthday to you by the much thing what did you. What did you do for your birthday this year. But i do every year. I just looked at my sizzle. Reel of it. Okay you guys ready for. John paul white. Are you ready for your florida man. Most certainly okay here. We go ready you. According to the internet your birthday is august. Fourth is true is the fourth my daughter's the fourth and the fifth. Yeah and roy. Scoville there for six here. We go john. Paul white august fourth. Here's your florida florida. Man clings to semi truck speeding down highway. Yeah and we will cut over to that. It is wonderful there is gonna be video of it. Yeah okay. here's a guy you just look at this guy this juncture white. This is your guy. That's my god that's also. There was a guy on a truck. I love how much of this person's radio we got in the shot. Yeah that's up to add bad filming from that person. now i have to say being from alabama. It's we don't really look down on anybody so fax you're so close you can smell the panhandle but to be fair. There are people in virginia. That can also do that too. Yeah i need to know what happened ten minutes earlier right. He definitely was not finished saying what he needed to say. What by over a caffeine free pepsi in a truck stop parking lot of these two guys get any need to know right so we go to the first story first story here. We go ready now as a refresher or if it's your first greenlee i will be reading an article with random over explanations about commonly known things. The game is for you to guess who wrote the completely useless non-sequitur reveal the correct answer. You'll either see a picture of will greenlee which we will show right now. He's journalist sane journalists love will he's always just chiming in from the audience does pretty crazy. Okay here we go or if it's me who wrote the over explanation you will see this photo so the i know i love it dance about ready to play that game. You put the knife on the table from someone. Photoshop mini like in the ocean. While kate winslet is on the table. And i'm trying to describe and you look you look like you're you're spalding. Hostages like if you want to not be thrown in the river you'd have to smile and look straightforward and did it and you did it. You did a good boy picture is. You're buying a very good book. We already so for zach. I don't know if you guys. I think had one in. Did you have a green lascaux did it. Lar- largo awesome. We'll do you remember that there was okay. If you don't remember at greenlee is okay. So he's a journalist to has basically what we like to think is he's written every story and he's written seven hundred words he needs to get to twelve hundred words so he over explains things and things that we know what they are and i know the real story. What is deal is and i'll never tell. Okay here we go. Here's the headline reading. Yes man jailed after snoring loudly at mcdonald's okay anti-massacre. Is it too much to say that. He was a nuisance mac. You don't like that that like j. I think he's giving you mc nothing. Okay this was sending by rich mccabe at rich. Tse thank you rich mckay here. We go ready. I read this story. You're gonna tell me who said something you didn't need to hear. A man was arrested for snoring loudly and apparently sleeping. How you what would he. How would you be sleeping. Okay behind the wheel in a mcdonald's drive through lane and affidavit states a drive through through if you're reading out loud that makes no difference z. And then he says s insatiable spelling of the word through a type of takeout service provided by a business that allows customers to purchase products without leaving their cars. Who wanted you know what a drive through is with that being me or will greenlee your our guest zach. What do you think take your time already times. I can read it. actually you know what. Let's go all the way back to one. So john paul white. Have you do the opening song one. More time command. Serving loudini apparently sleeping behind the wheel at mcdonald's drive-thru greenlee okay. I think it's yeah i do. Okay jobs do you think. Dan wrote that or do you think the quote unquote journalists. I think it's i think it's greenlee guy. Said it was such confidence. And i'm going to say greenlee to talk about that. Feels greenlee asked. But i don't know what i'm doing and i've played this game eight million times all right. Get your answers in and the chats up your left hand if you want to do it. Visually think it's me. Hold up your right hand. If you think will greenlee. I will tell you that the person who wants you to know that a drive through or drive thru sensational spelling of the word through is a type of takeout service provided by a business that allows customers to purchase products without leaving their cars. The person who wrote that is me and my friends. No one wrongs nobody. I say it all the time michael j. He went through a couple of figured it out. I got it we were like. Don't have it actually. He got wrong. Okay ready this is gonna make you question everything in your life. The case of the dozing dude began at three forty seven. Am on december twentieth when an indian river county sheriff. It always feels problematic to say that. Deputy went to mcdonald's in the seven hundred block of south. Us one for a suspicious vehicle. A deputy man in a ford pickup parked outside the drive through lane snoring loudly like snoring is the horse or harsh sound that occurs when air flows past relaxed tissues in your throat causing the tissues to vibrate as you breathe. Snoring can be caused by a number of factors such as the anatomy of your mouth and sinuses. Alcohol consumption allergies a cold and your weight. Who wanted you to know what snoring is young ended up in a newspaper and also what causes so by the way that means that. If for some reason if we'll really wrote this he was like you know what i think people are going to be like. Something happened at this drive-thru shirt. It called snoring. I wish i could have an excellent more or he also would be saying that he thinks there's people who wake up fifteen times a night and don't know why just general all right so zach. Do you think. Dan wrote that or will greenlee. I think that dan wrote it so john. You're so confident. I'm gonna stick with greenlee at j. c. a wrinkle. Yeah a wrinkle. Uh-huh ominous say. A wrinkle in greenlee was one of my kids. It was it's cheaper movie not now I'm gonna say it was Really it was greenlee. I think it was dan. I'm going to stay. I'm gonna go with zach. Okay ka person. Who wanted you to know what snoring is. And what it's caused by like allergies cold your weight consumption. The person who wrote that is will be dubs. This was ending article That was written by a journalist. Editor said great. Why not ready yeah. It's mcdonald's does not have sleep through lane. I'm just going to tell you greenlee wrote that. That is wild. And i don't know there's another level of person. He thinks he's helping with that sentence so he gets a bit. He thinks someone was reading and was like well. He was probably in the sleep through lane right right. That's right here. there isn't a sleep through. But according to the police the man seemed to be sleeping in the drive thru as opposed to sleeping with the enemy. A nine hundred ninety. One movie starring julia roberts. Who wanted you to know that. This was not the same as the one thousand nine hundred ninety one classic sleeping with the enemy starring julia roberts joining rob platinum sleep. Never ate that low. Julia roberts was in sleeping with the enemy. She was the anti. I mean she was the enemy in that movie i think that's dan carey. John agree. I'm going to i because it is so crazy because it is so absurd because that has nothing to do with this article and it does not belong in this article and i one hundred percent believe that it was written by will greenland. I agree we'll okay. Get your answers in and the cia. Y'all left hand. it's right hand if you get screened. The left hand is found on the left side. I'm joking all right here. We go person who wanted you to know about sleeping with the enemy. In one thousand nine hundred movie star julia roberts that was written by will greenlee. Yes zach so far you are owed for three. Wow you're supposed the win. you are supposed win. you are supposed to win. Meanwhile the man woke while the man woke and the deputy asked for his license. I don't have one. He is quoted. As saying i'm gonna lay out for officer. Don't have it like a mamat. Play his truck smelled of booze and his speech was slurred. The man fort pierce resident participated in field sobriety exercises and what was arrested on charges of dui and knowingly driving with a suspended license he told investigators he imbibed six to eight beers at a bonfire. A bonfire is a large open. Air fire used as part of a celebration for burning trash or as a distress signal locally beach. Fire permits are only available during non turtle nesting season from november through february in designated fire locations at jensen beach. Stuart beach crew. Wanted you to know what. Ben a bonfire was. And then where where you get your permi- senses zack. Turtle part is pretty legitimate and seems pretty Journalistic referring to the turtles yeah So what's the guy's name. That's not dan greenlee zach. I thought you were going to be like. I think the turtle part is pretty journalistic. So i'm going to say dan. I thought i regard that john. What are you. i'm gonna go greenlee just because he names specific pages but health. You never know. Dan could have done a wiki. Search jag would. He added greenlee to the person who wanted to do. What a bonfire is used as part of a celebration burning trash distress signal and it locally. Fire permits are only available during non turtle nesting season. The person wrote that me. And all the guys i will i will find out the county that the treasure coast. Paul says okay. This reveals the sickness of dan. I have a problem now. Going turtle ordinances. It would be really if he would have referenced. The movie bonfire of the vanities to god. I thought of it. But i thought with the sleeping with the enemy. I couldn't hit it twice. And i know i'm completely wrong here. But is bonfire the vanities and barbarians at the gate. The exact same move also say. Movie is the fabulous baker. They're all saying guys. I've gone so deep with greenlee. Text his wife as him and she can tell that yeah spouse. I'm sorry. Go after further questioning. The man admitted that he also had rum runners a cocktail involving rum. Who wanted you to know better rum. Runner is a cocktail involving rum involving Not necessarily doesn't have it all rope to the rummy. Yeah zach what do you think. I think greenlee because dan seems upset more upset a thousands back and i love your sweater. I love your sweater all right john. john thanks. this is what i've been working on during the pandemic. it's only up to here. You can't even lower it's progress right now you gotta halter and it's great and you did that tonight entirely out of your beard hair as as john. What do you think. Oh this is just a game of chance roulette say greenlee at this. So that's that's the thing about this game you think it's a shell game. You think you have an eye on the on the balls it's going on that's not it at all. It's an illusion he. Dan is an illusionist. And this is a trick on our sole I'm gonna say that that is will greenlee. I my heart is saying it's will greenlee. My head is saying. Don't listen to your heart. I think it's dan this into your heart. Okay here. We go after further questioning. He admitted that he also had rum runners a cocktail involving rum. Get your answers in on the chat. You townie friends love having you all here left hand of you think it's me right. Hand gets greenlee pedro. I see what you're holding up their here. We go the person they want you to know that there's rum. Interim runner is will greenland. Oh yeah it did. Muzak tapped into the anger. The very real anger that dan was experienced here on this. I will ask you all. How old do you think the man is in the sleep. Through in the sleep through he does not have a license. It's three thirty in the morning. He sleeping how old if you had to guess based off the limited knowledge you have. Would you say the man in the sleep through the man is asleep through a very scary children's book goosebumps. Goosebumps and sleep through is a goosebumps. That's like a real life. Lemony snick. It Zach zach hall. Big is what. What age in florida are you considered a man nine years old. Well usually do your walkabout. I mean kick out of your parents home at nine. So now i can. I say i saw the florida project. My wife and i were watching wonderful. We're watching the florida project. And it's like a three hour movie and if you've seen the movie it's about these kids that want good and we were like watching it while our kids were downstairs and we didn't know what they were doing and there was a point in the movie where i was like. Why the fuck my watching these kids hang out with my kids like i've now watch like the movie made me watch their kin more than the parents and i don't wanna watch. You could see those kids in that movie definitely going through a sleep through all right. So how old is this guy's accurate if you had to guess Forty two forty two. All right old i was. I was doing that kind of thing. I thought you guessed that. An honor of jackie robinson. John paul white. What do you think. Because you're asking wanna be ridiculous. So i'm gone to say he was not being nine hundred. Nineteen years old time on the road. I pulled up to a taco bell. Not not well not ashamed or proud to admit it and and no one would come to the window and i finally like got look and there was a person just laying on the floor asleep inside taco bell. Two in the morning it was a twenty four hour talking about i. I was like live your life. I don't need a definitely didn't need that. Dan need three of them for sure I'm gonna say twenty eight okay. He's saturn is returning. I'm gonna say sixty three sixty three. Just think this guy does say something about okay. Get your answers into the chat friends. Everybody get your answers and start timing. I'm in what number. How old do you think this guy the sleep through. Bandit i will tell All of us one of you is exactly right. Oh so now we get to play who you think is exactly right zach. You can stay with yourself or you can change your answer. You get stay at forty two One that's forty to you. john. I'm gonna i'm gonna hold hold jay. What do you think. jeez. I'll stay at twenty eight sixty three. Okay all right. The sleep through bandit closing out a wonderful will where we learn about sleeping with the enemy. And what's runner. That's right who knew who is twenty eight years very good. Oh i feel better than i should about that. No you don't feel good enough of are iota ran around the room. I would run around or rubbing. Interim runners running involves running. That is our first story. We're gonna take a quick break but to play us into the break. John paul white. Let's hear second song from you but you were so beautiful. Everyone knew yourself now. And then when he's done we can to give him the applause. Take it away Food no snow some gi l. a. A four joe underneath more on. Are i want to talk to you guys about your comfort it is. I'm talking about sleeping. I'm talking about showering holy smokes my brooklyn. My brooklyn and sheets are my brooklyn's house. I'm so i'm all my tough. Not load you know where he lives ideal. But that's all. I got for my mom as a present the Brooklyn kashmir sheets have soft beautiful sheets in her home and it was such a great gift that she was like. I would have never spent this myself. And i'm so grateful and i'm in my bed every night and it's a gift that i love. You should spend the money anderson because it's really not want to tell her. I wanted her to think that. I was expanding so gave rhyme mom. I know it's mine. I gave her the towels and she tells stole got him no. I gave my mom's house and she said that my favorite house there are favorite tells. Your wife she went. She does a bedroom. Interior designs a bedroom. She as a gift to them put always puts sheets on in after one nine sleeping on brooklyn and cheat. She said i will never not put with these sheets on my clients. Such a high bar. You need to do something. Nice for yourself or a loved one likely to vermont to kick off the new year to help you do that brooklyn and has a special offer. That's right you've got to brooklyn and dot com the promo code dp t to get twenty five dollars off when you spend a hundred dollars or more. Plus free shipping dan. That's brooklyn valid for people to be r. o. k. l. i n. e. n. dot com and enter promo. Dpd at twenty five dollars off when you spend a hundred bucks or more plus free shipping brooklyn dot com. Use the promo code dp at checkout. 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The civil wars his album from last year. Two thousand two years ago The hurting kind is just absolutely a beautiful album. And so just check him out. Start there start there. Start their move on from there and I'm just so happy that we're getting a chance to do this with you. And and beautiful sad version of the dump down theme when we sent it to you where you like. How long did it take for you to say. Okay i'm gonna whip this up or did it come right away just like that okay. That is my horrible superpower to make getting sad i. I grew up loving though songs. My my dad loved those songs and like when we listen to the radio in his car he would always point out certain songs attention to this one and it was always it was long black veil or santia coming down or it was always a heartbreaker and got what he meant because they made me feel something that happy songs. Just you know no offense to what you do for a living. Yeah thanks a lot. I appreciate that. But i don't know i feel like you know times in your life like that. Mark you scar you a little bit deeper and i feel like you kinda when you're talking about your life like oh. Yeah that was right before that car wreck after my divorce it just seems like or at least a malla. You're talking about tiger woods right okay. But you're right you're so right and what's funny though. Is i think a lot of comedy comes from pain as well like people like. What do i do with this really hard thing. I twist it into something else so sure that's true i. i'm friends with a fair amount of comedians. But i read a ton and a and a lot of biographies and i've noticed that comedians. We have so much in common. And even the way that you go about constructing joker right especially. If you're you know y'all y'all riff and ad-lib very well but when you're actually going a bit it's so lock what we do and and and you're also just you have just as little self esteem. That's very true. very tall. My like imagine if you were like verse one into a song and the crowd was letting you know how much they hated it. That's what it is a comedy. No that didn't happen. Never that. But i mean same thing. We're right next to each other on the cul de sac. That's i think every comedian wants to be a rock star and every singer wants to be comedian. I think they're kind of one. John mayer we. All we judge our shows how much people laugh between songs that is your patterns. Gotta be good. You can nail every song and you walk up. I don't know just the opposite will be true is because i do a lot of singing between my bits and that's how i judge shows come on. Yeah they like my show tunes and the end. Dan really basically just things instrumental song. Yeah that's i'm good at it. Let's bring zack. Back in zach are you there. Are you needed knitting the rest of your sweater fully. Hope lord only we zach. How are you zach. Are you writing comedy at all through. The pandemic have written any jokes. Some could say that. Maybe you've never written comedy. But i would disagree with those people you know i live. I live in trump tower. It's been rough. go of it recently. Really come up with a right now. What's the time to just a hard time to be in the building awkward elevator conversation. So yeah it's just not a good guys are weird more and more car rough lathering up. Oh every time people leave. There's so many leather. Futons in the alley. You can tell you're losing people But zaki you got kiddos. How's it being apparent during this time right now. Well my children leaving the middle of the woods so my children have gone completely feral. And you let them at this point. My mackenzie mike. My four year old had a bird in one hand and a snake in the other hand. Well that's what they say. A bird of the hand is worth a stake in the other thought and thought that. Go along with it. But i couldn't think of it had the expression and then you thought maybe there's a better expression for meeting and you drop that way and you should have just stayed with it because he in a hand is hand. Snake child's old is It's interesting because i think he saw some nazi propaganda stuff in a movie. Like i think he saw indiana jones. Yeah and um i was talking and man the other night. And i don't know if he knows what i do for a living but he said to me he goes if he has a weird accent he goes. Hey have you ever met hitler movie. He seems like a pretty mean guy. And you're like let's not judge him yet. Okay i know guys on all sides fans of his. But i don't really get along with those people. Listen he's not he's number one. I'm sorry i'm sorry. He's he's nine number nine on the call shoot good. That's what did you. What did your son say about your to your wife. The you were telling me this great story. you're talking to him in and he's he's hilarious. He's kind of. He's kind of in Don rickles funny which is weird for four year old and My wife my son. And i laying in bed. My wife comes in he goes. Hey mama leave us alone. It's just me and dad daddy. And i want to cuddle. She goes okay around and he goes. I like the back of your head. The fact that your son is doing a word for word. Dean martin lounge acts pretty pie to move along. You gotta be a gilady one in here. It's one hundred six degrees you got stolen. I'll say this. Just about the don rickles of it all because it is specialized you remember zach when we first came to l. a. And you're out in santa monica and jay and you and i. We drove you back from some party that we were all hanging out at and we drove and we parked right in front of your house and then this is after an evening hanging out you me and jay sat nar and listen to all of hello dummy which was don rickles album which was only like thirty three minutes long because they cut it out together. It's just hard for him. We were like literally screaming with laughter. Edges was a great moment. That i'll never forget but i just wouldn't do those. That are listening to it when when randy say we were at some party look. I'm sure we were lobby of a bowling alley trying to get a standup show going. Yes that's not a cool party when i say park zach. I don't know if you're cool party. The first time we met was the old era of studios. And i had to walk. I didn't have a car. I had to walk to use and you go. I'll give you a ride. And i go. Thanks so much we get in your car. And you're driving me to ucsb franklin and you go so you're you're getting to theater pretty early and i go. I'm interning there and taking classes and you. That's that's good. That's a good place for you to be a thanks. But see you know if we lose all these bs. None of that shit's going to matter. Really really do you like it's all the bee's man we need these beasts then it would just be. Uc okay all right. I shall we get into the second story. Okay story thank you my friends. This was sent in first of all. It is an annual tradition. I will just tell you the headline. What did we get stuck in ourselves last year and it was a big year. It was a lot of people had a lot of time in their houses to make mistakes. Listen clear and stuff out. Do we need this. Do we need that. Put the things we need over there in the garage. Trying to decide if something brings you joy anymore. Stick it in your asshole and find out here Or any of your orifices. John zach. I will tell you a same for you. Randy and jason. We're gonna have a lot to go through but if anything jumps out at you and you would like to hold on a minute while we explore what i just said free. Everyone has a steering wheel. This was sent in by the person that does this. Great service and compiles this list every year. That's who sent it to me. His name is barry peci. You can follow him at bury the deputy editor and co owner of defector which is like deadspin type. Sports site ski. Like sounds like a guy who makes his own pickles. I know in fact. I'm going to go this far people townie and you love this service. That he does every he puts this whole thing together himself goat him at berry and just right. Thank you dump people town. I think it would be hilarious if he got so many. Okay this is what he writes. Look i get it i do. You're stuck inside. It's cold and dark outside your board. That vaguely cylindrical. Object is calling to you but resist. There are many things out there that are specifically designed for you to self insert. There are many many more that are not yet still end up inside. America's holes this annual post honors. The ladder consider it a psa and reconsider that object. Art are doctors and nurses busy enough. These days came into that and then he says all reports are taken from the us consumer product safety commission's database of emergency room visits all descriptions are verbatim. And hey don't put that in there. You might lose it anyway as always objects sorted by orifice working south but before we start. We have a cook announcement to make. Yes we're gonna announce who our guest is going to be before we start our guest on february twenty cent ready to get these tickets before the general admission's now telling you right now. We have to anybody our guests on i twenty seventh. The musical guest is open. Mike eagle holy shit. Scott good enough ready. People and our guests in south will be jack black. We're going to be hanging out with jack black on february twenty seven thirty two as well. Let's here we go ready. Yes that links should be in the starting from the top my south. Here's what people coffee grounds Why what did you lose. You wonder ear needs to wake up here. We go rubber bands. Sure several hair bands. How does that work will you get. Seven isn't enough. You get one in. There is a great place to keep it right in the rest like poison like boy cinderella rat all the hair bands that totally tracks. This isn't quote throw always fun. When they're in quotes patient siblings put a piece of paper in patients ear trying to show him a magic trick that some brothers and sisters let me put it in this year and then i'll make it a part of that is here is what one's sister told a brother some of these. We have images for. They might be accurate. They might be what. I hope the person tried to do. The next one is lollipop. Oh that's not accurate. What if why not okay. Ready moving on toy sort. Of course how say that. Say that seven times fast. We're sort yup. You can't do it twice already to know okay. Quote take shower with earplugs in years in attempt to prevent water from going in and now earplug is stuck in left ear. That's how you that's on you bobby. Pin hair yes. Bobby pin hairpin. I don't know the difference between a bobby pin on. Where my bobby. And what's the difference between a bobby pin and hairpin. A hair might be biggers. The shape the shape. I think sometimes a hairpin is bigger. Okay you guys are both gentlemen. Who had long hair. Did you ever wear your hair in a bun. Great question great question. I have it pulled back right now. It's long right now. This is this is part of a midlife crisis. Where do you categorize the sweater. But you're meeting. This is just my wife sweater. Making i love it. I was going to ask regarding your hair. Where are you practicing martial arts these days and guy's name siegel what's the actor. All even seagal steven seagal steven seagal jan the beau jack horsemen version of steven seagal. I guarantee you know steve. Siegel can steve siegel his off off his friend. Charles norris next thing hair trimmer attachment. Why quote found a bid and placed it in his ear so he wouldn't lose it. Diddy it that's pockets or four x thing toy dinosaur. I know tweezers vibe glass quote. There's a new thing. Fiberglass that gets everywhere does quote car was. Okay here we go. This is a this one has a little story to okay. Good car was rear ended and he hit his head on. The back of the front seat also has headaches since he also put a piece of paper and his right ear one month ago. The car accident he says. So that's the guy who liked the kid who's telling the story and won't get to the real part of until later so we were walking with our friend right then. We went around the park. But instead of going this way around the park and then me and sophie did heroin. You're like whoa no ready for the next three to in your ear to your tooth comb tooth okay. The dog to dog. What type of home medicine are you practicing that. You're putting a god damn dog to get getting spirits way. Yeah man picture this one plastic magic want. That trick did not work ready was. Here's anyone quotes was sleeping when her four year. Old child broke wooden tip of paintbrush and put it in her ear stack. You have a four year old that the in the realm of possibility that is within the realm of possibility with your four year old. Let's just say that we've had some problems. removing dayton's from the eureka cash. We'll get we'll get there. John john i wished your name was franklin so i could have said. We've had some problems with the eureka. She she did the music for under siegler one to respect right pen. Cap marker tip nail quote was there's another one was experiencing pain in ear so rolled up pieces of paper to put inside it. Change them out a few times when the last one became stuck in ear. Yeah yeah so. They tried to get more paper out with paper. I put him in jamie pearl piece of wicker clothes hamper stahnke fiddling around with stuff people what you i mean that's the moment whereas apparent you become like a cop as you see your kid over and that might be an adult kids just trying to rip off a pc what she doing over there. But what's going i. Are we doing right how we doing tonight. The body is not your hiding place. That's what i want people to understand. The point is one and we do have a pick put a kran in each ear. School cran removed from right ear. But not from left's did the best we could man. That's the way she is now necklace. Not port the entire necklace bracelet. We're still in ear receipt. That is not all you do your taxes. Can you just get an email to you. How would you like it like an email or stuffed in your clay clay. Yes another thing. Yes quote had an ear. Buds in ears under his snowmobile helmet hit a water bar and his helmet pushed his earbuds deep into his ear. Roll chief candle wax. That one. i kinda get. It's my favorite. That's my favorite band from the early. Two thousands yeah candle wax blue slime play. Here's a new one placed. dvd's earbuds and forgot they were in there. Stuck the earbuds on now has to bb's lodged in ear. Dvd's are definitely something that like. We played with when we were kids. Yeah you shoot them shot. Bb's soda can tab plastic spoon air can tabby was hanging out with jimmy buffett. Okay fair enough air soft pellet piece of purple cran small rock all same patient. Yeah i know. Terrorists never learned. Okay then this one ready felt something in their burning sensation flushed the ear. And here's your picture. A worm flush feels like alabama. John question i do you get to name the worm fish with it is moving onto the nose here goes oh god earplug course where they go need to learn your shapes. Confetti balloon happy new year candy wrapper. Sure next thing we got a picture. Fake diamond why not. Just say real. No one would've known kit. No one's gonna know he went to jared. No they're not gonna shit have yano stuffed up his nose. Flower is in the nose. Sunflower seed chur. You're not a chia pet toy toy car tire toy lizard tail just the tail. Well now the toy lizard tail now this. I believe was accused on conspiracy thing. This is all the denver. Insurers had lizard tails up their nose deal not sure quite a bit of tissue paper quite a bit medical cancer. Even a little bit is quite a bit. If you can't get it out it's two months right. Can i say something anything randy if you're gonna make cunanan stuff i don't know if i'm sorry i know how you feel about it. It's fair warning. Sign your theories about cunanan conspiracy theories about you. Believe about this jerry back to it. Yes many flashlight. How small is many many many bowling pin. Churn sponge toy carrot. We've got a picture. This one googly eye. That's a kid that as a kid at preschool bread bread pom pom two batteries peanut. And here's the one. We're going to close out the nose with sister's hair which witchcraft is going on in this little. Are the care. The parents paying attention to the kids for that to happen. Yeah agreed okay ready. We're now moving onto the throat then after throat we get into the real funds stuck. Here's things people had stuck in their throat in twenty twenty disposable straw. That's not what they mean. No that's not what you throw metal straw. That'll straw plastic fork plastic cup plastic jail. Wristband what are we gonna do. We get this off. we're going to eat. it will go down. Go down cat toy. Look i know. Everyone wants their cat to like the toy they got him. But you don't need to show the cat that much. Let's do fine here kiss. I know i know you don't love me for real. 'cause you're a cat. Give me an answer bib now. Here the next one. I'm going to say a lot of things across especially when we get to the polls but this one just seems so gross to me peace peace be better if it was a whole socked the peace. What are you doing it you first of all. He's not ridiculous. Nobody can eat a whole sack right. Peace the peace. You save a little microwave up the rest of it go next thing ready date not for sure but it was either quote a bee or wasp being their throats. Saving just zach zach famously said we start losing the bees your internship at. Ucd will not matter but if it's a murder loss that's fine. Yeah murder hornet. Jesus come on small pool ball. I have no idea what that is. It's like a little mini. Buffalo taylor billiards related to early. One honey ready for this tip of a knife. Just good not doing that as a joke. I'm saying what what is not this. Is someone who wants to get into sword swallowing. But they're like let hamas that grain and that is like the guy who and bats incredible catches a bullet in his teeth. He's like hannity practices. Like okay. I started tossing jim. Okay jake this next one is going to become a lot. Faster already metal. Pipe this next one seats. So bad sewing needle. Oh heck k. Brady moving on. We have four more electrical tape. Churn thermometer yup glow stick. And how perfect for twenty twenty. Someone stuck in their throat of tall tiny small amount flag better than a confederate flag. Yeah i agree. Oh look at the reverse throwing up the rehearse for everybody you can now see what we see. Which is all of you lovely. Can you see what we see all right here we go. We are now moving on to penis. Zach this might be traumatic for you. Pick of what i'm about to show you. I will let you figure out how it works. If you kids go to bed or wake up we're learning stuff to that for mentor ideas. I i don't know if you could figure this out it's going to hurt if you can't figure it out stay the way you are never change the first thing. Twenty twenty a cock plug. Okay that is. That's got a lot of girth to let everyone else figure it out next thing. Hoof tongue ring beck checks. Well no in the penis. Though i forgot we have an accident by the way mic on lunar prediction. Yes make a prediction. Cova test passed. They said break the swab off. What everybody's so mad back are you. Are you positive about the breading string string of magnetic beads that will do damage this next one. This is when we start getting into these holes. These are where people feel like. They need to like cover for themselves. A little bit to remind people that are mama's in this. Well you didn't do this. This is like when this is like when jay did curb your enthusiasm and his scene was very clean but the rest of the show was crazy. It was the filthiest. Seen the is killer episode. Where larry gets the pubic hair stuck in his throat. Meanwhile o. j. didn't know anything about the episode so he told our parents and they told our rabbi. So we're watching. Even enjoy beyond the show the show and larry the entire time as i and we're just thinking of our rabbi bernard listening watching that show with the rest of the banana sisterhood. That thanks a lot my dear friend in the man. I love david jacoby watching. I hope keith. Put the kids to bed here. We get this is a quote and an excuse playing with phone and fell asleep. When he woke up his stylus was in his year. Injury occurred four days ago and didn't seek treatment now. He has to get excited just to move things around on the never going to believe what happened. I'd be like you're right. I will not believe what you're about to tell me. Accidentally happens already moving on. He got a boner and opened up for apps. I didn't mean to text you. Pen pencil paintbrush. This is the quote metal. Screw in his urethra to cause an action. That is not how a picture of the next one wire hanger. men's warehouse. You're not gonna like the way you look at you feel ready for the what god damn comic con person going to lanyard. Yes i watch comedy festival low. We don't want to quote has had a marble in his penis and decided he needs it. Removed has been in there. For how long zach. John scars. How long do you think this guy had a marble in his penis and finally decided that it needed to be removed sack was a plain marble or marble off like an old statue playing for keeps marble. The playing like there's a big difference from someone and says i sell marble to i sell marbles. Big difference mike. So your countertops eight of marvel nine days nine days. Okay john john. What do you think i would assume. You wouldn't be able to urinate right. So i'm gonna say twenty four ground twenty four hours three days three days. I'm going to say one year. One year and i could see your mother all right. There's my mom. I'm sorry. Mom i love you in the chats. Y'all because he had a marble on his penis and decided he needed to remove it. It's been in there for the past four years. yes yes. That's what's wrong with our health system in this country and the very last thing telling people he has big last guy not. They're not they're there. I do have one last thing. And this is somebody that i wish. Love themselves more at the got stuck in somebody's penis and twenty twenty glue okay better than rubber cement cement okay moving onto the vagina here. We go shampoo bottle. Sure battery that. Do not insert those things separately. The battery goes in the toy. I that's not what i want rosie perez to be reading the next thing we have a pick of it. I i picked out this picture. It's a pill bottle. What if that's the pill bottle that makes sense into small vibrator large vibrator paperclips patient. Patient was intoxicated. Four months ago paced placed a crumble of tin foil inside vagina. Now no no put it in your vagina or the microwave. Things can start inflammation. Things could start a film canister this this next one might be my favorite one on the entire list inside of a china part of a slinky middle down the stairs. Slinky's go downstairs. This thing just went down stairs not ready for this film canister shirt you remember what. He said that eyebrow pencil screw ten come on. It's dump people town three bags of meth o. I do not. I am so glad. They filed for bankruptcy. Because i imagine that's one of their members. Did this yet a bullet there. You go in our ed. Hey ready rock bath pom. That's not how they work. And i endorse the doors path. Oc paper right. Dwayne johnston no john. I think eagle. Johnston and johnston zach. What is it. i don't know what it is. I don't know. But i know that all of these all these things lead to one condition and that's bieber fever. You called it sir. Because the final thing that got stuck in a vagina and it bothers me on so many levels is a baby shoe. Couldn't find anything else. You couldn't break off the leg of a chair. you couldn't find anything else door or anything babies. You don't know anyone with a fist. You couldn't find a baby's you is symbolic and that's why it hurts okay. Oh you can't put the baby back in the day. That's that's not throw out the vagina with the baby shoe. I believe and finally the rectum. Okay here we go bouncy ball. Sure multiple marbles. They tend to go together yeah. I picked him up. I picked them all house. Same guy from the front is a very intricate game. Jack's here's the first word. I'm going to say we get shows up every year. The second word. I'm going to say new. I believe ready toothbrush holder in the by. I know where my toothbrush is. Just can't put it away cran you've got to keep it between the lines. Simple quote put a pencil up rectum and now not able to sit. No kidding ready for this one. But i can fart out the best letter ever. Oh the next one. We've got to pick christmas lights feel like shooter an sooner every year every like i'm bending over and you're holding me you need to put these in the garage long. I have a solution. We are ready. Nail polish bottle. Shaving gel bottle. Barra saul container quote. Here's another one painting. Patient reports inserting a decoder at spray can inside his rectum last night as he was constipated. One of which one of these the lie on constantly. This is like every diane keaton movies. Something's gotta give. His friend rocked in right after. Because the next thing is quote shampoo bottle in his rectum then placed in there because he thought he was constipated head and shoulders above the other. Guys i be discount this one stick again. What's brown and sticky a stick stick. He's a grand bat after this very brown in very sick folks this one so flatly delivered. It's perfect screwdriver. And amos handle fell off even ask if it was a phillips laver. Flathead here we go. Quote was intoxicated and is uncertain if she used her aides or not. Can't find them at at home. None found in still a mystery behind the cowart. Never mind well i. This again is one of my favorite movies. The sisterhood of the traveling anal and tastic. There on your head bar bright. You've got always the way i'm like. Where am i eight obt type just laying vibrator ring sure vibrator stuck in rectum. Vibrator is still on okay. Well it's eventually it's gonna turn on. Take it out eventually. This is a battery commercial. That's never ready commercial five inch still though six inch dildo seven inch dildo ten inch dildo mike. And as you're saying each of those can see my mom on the okay here. We go apple. Sure that's all it is computer eight. No it keeps the doctor away one way or another. That's one toy shark. And i hope this is what it is. That's in my imagination cute. We're getting closer plastic. Turtle cat toy bell Small foam football baseball. That's a lot of these. Yes signed by. Pete rose newspaper. I hope it was old That baseball was juice credit for the excellent but in my heart of this is what it is the at cologne bottle shirt. It's gotta be that that yes yes colors of benetton or lapidus. Baby oil bottle. You're supposed to take it out of the bottle in hand lotion bottle. Same thing is the thing. I just said. Foam dart love when a person lies about what they did. Quote was squatting in the shower when he got a small bottle stuck in. That is not how it happened. So it's really the bottles fall about. Wait wait wait wait wait. How do you pick up. Bluebottle back true. That's i mean. Look back on that when your hands are full. You never know okay ready. This one did not have a picture. But i had to include the greatest picture of this item. We've ever gotten on town so it is canon remote control picture provided by will grier. I hope it wasn't a university. They never say. Every time i sit down. I switched to fox news. I don't getting so they never say which end so. We can always pretend the next fork for water bottle. Here's this one quote three weeks ago. He was drunk and put a lightbulb. Up his rectum really got a good idea. I don't even know what this is. We have a picture of it pooper. route toy. Who's those are little toys. That are meant to be. Put up your button okay. Perfect jackson ready for the next weeble. Wobble there you go weevils wobble. They don't fall out of your up though writing pen and bottle cap. We're going to close us out six magic markers and the last thing we got stuck in our but and twenty twenty. We'll see you all in a year when we get to do this again. Quote put dildo interact Two days ago and was performing daily activities with it in place when riding lawnmower dildo slid inside rectum. Completely i to me this is just someone that needs to get their stuff done. I hate to say everson was a little anal about getting. Imagine though right before the riding lawnmower. 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John Chambers - Pattern Matching, Playbooks, and Winning Product Categories - [Founders Field Guide, EP.6]

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John Chambers - Pattern Matching, Playbooks, and Winning Product Categories - [Founders Field Guide, EP.6]

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O'shaughnessy this founders field gut founders field guide is a series of conversations with founders ceos and operator spilled and great businesses i believe we all builders in our own way in this series is dedicated stories and lessons from builders of all types you can find more episodes at investor field guide dot com Patrick o'shaughnessy is the ceo of shaughnessy asset management all opinions expressed by patrick and podcast. Guests are solely their own opinions and do not reflect the opinion of o'shaughnessy asset management. This podcast is for informational purposes. Only and should not be relied upon as a basis for investment decisions clients of a shaughnessy asset management maintain positions in the securities discussed in. This podcast i guess this week is john chambers. John was the ceo of cisco from nine hundred ninety. Five two thousand fifteen for he helped grow cisco from seventy million to forty billion dollars in annual revenues. In this conversation we discussed the best business lessons. He learned from longtime gc. Oh jack welsh his key lessons from acquiring over one hundred and eighty companies for cisco pattern recognition and play books. Capitalizing on market transitions enabled by new technologies. The value of team offsites and a lot lot more. I was immediately drawn into john's magnetic personality. And it's easy to see how he was so adept at running a forty thousand person company for two decades. I hope you enjoy this. Great conversation with john chambers so john i was toying with how to begin this conversation for everyone to hear and i thought a really need entry point would be the observation. You told me about from. Jack welsh that you need a near death experience as a company to become a great company. Can you walk me through that idea. And the episode for you. Jack welsh a ge was one of the greatest business leaders of the generation in front of me. And i'd say many people would say he was the best he did. Many things will but one of the things he did was benchmark companies learn from them and uc when he sent his teams out the benchmark companies. If they got one idea from the company it was great when they benchmark cisco shocked. They came away with twenty two areas. They wanted to emulate and learn from and direction and jack welsh even though he was not a technologist at all understood the market transition going on so we became good friends and developed trusting relationship in the mid nineties and we were on our way to becoming the most valuable company in the world. I was talking to jack and he said john. You've got a good company. And i said i know jack that you're baiting me on this. I think we got a company that is pretty close to becoming a great company. What am i missing. He basically said john near death experience. And as i've gone through some tough times now rattled off the economic recessions etc. And he said no john until you go to a near death recession setback type of approach. You will never be a great leader yourself because you have to question your own ability to lead your friends who sunny turn on you. You've to go through that and your company has to go through it as well. So that's one of those things when you hear pieces of ice ugo. Patrick at was good advice. Bat probably not. I'll put it over to the side. Two thousand one the dot com bust. He was exactly right. It was the hardest year my business career. We had never missed a forecast with created ten thousand millionaires in our company. We were on a roll with run. Every word imaginable as a company and all of a sudden people were questioning. How do we go from the most valuable company in the world to a company. Should i even be leaving the company. It was a tough year for me. We lay off seven thousand five hundred people very painful. These my family. I knew many of them very very well personally and so. It was the year that i felt that. I did not do a good job leadership them he called me up at the end of two thousand one. He said john you now have a great company. Dismay surprise you. You're now a great leader and this is the best. I've ever seen you execute an essay. Jack you're probably the only person that even say that because many people who believed in me before and believe there are leadership or sunday questioning. Can we do the job well or not he said. Now you'll see this play out. You add much stronger company. You'll come back better than any of your peers and canley. You'll be a much better leader. I said you're going to be the only one that ever tells me this year was two thousand one of my best usership year ever the he was the only one that said that actress but his point was a good one and now try to do that with my young leaders. I've tried to remind them that. They would develop more stress than the good times. And i try to give them the comfort level even a little bit more gently jacket with me about as you go through this stuff tom. Here's what the ups and downs will be like that. Hits in your stomach where you worry about. Are you the right person to lead this. Your ability to motivated team when she didn't provisions in place so that is what leadership is about. It was something that probably is one of the best pieces of advice. I ever got as both a leader and i guess just more generally how were you in two thousand two the most different than you were in one thousand nine hundred nine having gone through that near death. Experience will attack and expand the question a little bit. How we handle the challenges. Two thousand eight the great recession. What i learned from my mistakes in two thousand two thousand one and that was keep doing the right thing too long becoming way too dependent upon numbers which never failed me. I mean patrick. I can tell you based on the first week of a month how the quarter is going to go and probably a year ago based upon pattern recognition that went seen around the world number of new orders etc. We knew every order within thirty seconds that occurred. We knew what the forecast where we could compare it to the exact same time. The prior years etc seems foolproof. What we neglected was the psychology side of this that the stock market was dropping in two thousand. That there is an indication. Something wasn't going right. And i should have spent more time with the customers around the world to understand it because once i get my trip in january of two thousand one. I realized that it was going to be the hundred year flood. I made the mistake of using the term with the press which they beat me up on pretty hard slim's just cisco but as we know it was not in terms of direction so two thousand eight we will use them but data but a lot more time with customers asking about trans accenture. We saw that coming one year earlier in our summer afford the economic downturn all of a sudden my pattern on my numbers were really good but one group of key customers aida financial institutions suddenly slowed their ordering down an oa by about twenty percent off the normal order rates. But as all of them at the same time. And i called up the ceos. And because i knew him well said something going on here. I need to be aware of and they said no. We're just a little bit cautious at the present time. We think everything's fine. Eight out of eight is in caution that is then so we prepared ourself for an economic downturn and refroze expenses. We prepared how we would navigate through this. And nine months later everybody was in that downturn and had already -sition ourselves of the future and were already playing offense and we came through with unbelievable strengths including loaning billions of dollars to the automotive companies. That time no one else would give them money to purchase their equipment. We build a relationship and trust because we had the financial strengths to do it and we were positioned expecting problems long. Story short is not only. Did it navigate through that better and once again we broke away from our peers and every downturn week amount of stronger than our peers and mark sharon we gain loyalty of customers entrust on our culture that no one else have and company cisco still has that to this day because of how you interface the customers during the toughest time and their survival dominant way that no one else did all parallel that goes back to buy challenges as a young person almost drowned. When i was six years old and i was a competitive swimmer that age but my dad not fishing rapids west. Virginia he said john. You've got to be careful here. This rapids really bad and span feeder but did not get too close to the edge. He said i'm going to be efficient up here. A little bit of you never told me to be cautious. do want. You'd be very cautious. Six zero do. He started to catch a fish or wanted to see. If i could get the lure out further i got closer and sure enough. Fm the minute i went in i knew i was in trouble. I mean the rapids plummet need knocked me head over heels and as i finally surfaced for the first time in the rapids and i was just getting started in them. My dad is showing me from one hundred yards away. Hold onto the fishing pole and each time. I'd surface adhere seeing running down the side of the bank. Trying to catch up to me and yelling. Hold onto the pole. And i just got knocked up skinned up pretty good through there and finally he got below me and was able to swim out and pull me in. I was a little bit shook and he sat down he said. Do you understand what what just happened. I said the fishing pole. He said no what you did. You didn't panic. I use the folks of fishing pole. Will you to focus on something you could control so that you let the rapids take its course and then i could come out and get you. He said in life as you fall into these challenges you focus on what you can control influence. Do not swim against the tide of the current. Because you drowned. You have to learn how to get out of this yourself. Once you've been through that you know how to teach that she know how to handle the experience Remain focused on. Hymns wants an amazing story. I'm glad that i didn't hear it. The first time we spoke. Because it's so poignant and so interesting after a member get yelled for diving right into the middle of these conversations and not giving some framing those listening and for myself. I'd love you to begin by telling me a bit about what you had done. Up to the point that you joined cisco in your career sort of the formative experience you had and then what that business looked like when you got there. Because i think what's so unique about your experiences cisco is there. It was established but by far the majority of its absolute value market cap happened under your watch and plenty of lessons to. I'm sure gleaned from that experience but we need the setup so going into that experience what were the formative pieces of your life in career to that point and then what did it look like when you got to cisco your second. Part of the question was not just your business career. It was your life on it and your experiences and then the business career that set it up and then what do we find it. Cisco in that sequence. I was a product of two doctors learned from the very beginning the importance of equality in life and and there were all equal in life so no matter what happened. They knew how to fix this in terms of the direction. But i had a problem reading in the first and second third grade and it was severe and my parents would read with me every night but much like somebody who is play sports a golfer or shooting a basketball. If you have something this basically wrong with your swing your shot. It's really bad practicing more with that. Flaw only makes it worse and makes it very difficult to fix later and so my parents once they saw is happening in school kids would laugh at me when i read because i would lose track of where was an turned out i was dyslexic. And that means you often read right to left as opposed to left to right. It's emotional you lose. Confidence would be an understatement. And i heard the teachers talking one time from a distance that i may not not only go to college graduate from high school. My parents did figure this out and they got a teacher. By the name of mrs anderson to really helped me learn how to read effectively and even though the term dyslexia wasn't prevalent. She knew i had a learning disability and she taught me a series of techniques over two days a week after school for three years. How to deal with it once. I learned the work around and then later in life learned that you can take a weakness and make it a strength whether it's public speaking or the fact that i can't do things surely can go. Abc at recognition and outcomes really quickly picture the whole thing make it a strength second thing in formative years. I grew up in west. Virginia where we were the chemical center of the world will carbide. Fmc dupont six thousand engineers from west virginia. Smartest technicians think of that as the silicon valley of the world in chemicals. Were now as growing up in a hundred twenty five thousand coal miners and a very prosperous state more millionaires west virginia then the whole united kingdom did but because we didn't change. We didn't make changes. We fell from grace. Today we're number forty eight forty nine hundred fifty in almost every category then whilst watched the equivalent of silicon valley in boston one. Twenty eight with mit. At the heart of that like stanford is out here. And i'll watch this lead. The minicomputer industry with deck and wang data general and thousands of computer technology companies and feeder system supply chains groups and we went from the powerhouse of the world to almost nonexistent in technology computer industry. Because we didn't change all those jobs were lost and gone forever. So i've seen when things don't change. So i went to. Ibm mainframes big iron proud of it etcetera ibm didn't change displaced by computer players. Wang data. general excetera. They didn't change place by clients servers. They microsoft intel's the world they didn't change replaced by cisco the internet the internet it evolved the cloud etc so i've learned how technology changes ushered business changes in a unique way. And they're doing the right thing to belong to june as much trouble as during the wrong thing does. I was a product of all those so when i came to cisco the first lesson learned is i was never gonna get the interview at cisco when i decided to leave wang. We were going through a series which lasted a year layoffs. Almost every three months and i did not feel. I could look for a job at the time. I was laying off people now organization. That time is running the us organization about ten thousand people. When i told the ceo that. I've lost confidence in the direction. It's time for me to leave. I thought i'd have to do is send out resumes and way offers to come in. It was really humbling experience. No offers came in. And i had a pretty good track record experience on it. That teaches you the importance of relationships fast. For two hundred and twenty days later. I had twenty two offers either in hand or close to being an hand. Twenty one of them came entirely to france. Networking helping i had the search firm who had the search for me that ended up having to search for cisco as well when it turned out one of the cisco employees who had worked with g twelve years before can years before abby am and i work with him at wang and i helped him out of a tough situation. Just because was the right thing to do. I didn't even know years. At cisco he called up my wife and said. I know the john look in here in the valley. He's interviewing at the wrong companies and he needs to be the ceo. Cisco return from grueling trip out here on the west coast elaine. My wife asked me how to go. And i said it was brutal but regaining some offers. She got the job for you. Company called cisco. I didn't even know what they did. But the takeaway there is your product. Your currency is your track record relationships and trust and when you use those three consciously or subconsciously that often determines your future impurity because of how. I tweeted somebody before. I get the job at cisco and purity because of having seen the experiences so much i been through it i was able to share with the decision makers desisto. Why should be there next. Ceo and they were kind enough to give me the opportunity. At that time it was only four hundred people seventy million in sales. The group was very effective very town group but it was a leadership team that did not get along and didn't like each other. The almost had to at times get between them in terms of fistfight. They were very customer oriented. I was fortunate enough to understood. Having seen the movies are transitions bad with need evolve. The leadership team that would need to move rapidly and ninety to focus them on outcomes and made a bold statement that the internet was going to change the way. The world works lives place and cisco's can be the key player there. People said you build routers you do. Techy stopped between researchers on campus. What do you mean is going to change the world. So that's what cisco is like when i got there great product by the way but it was more a technique products. I hope to evolve. Were some really talented people around me how you evolve the corporation. We developed recruited some of the best talent in engineering and sales. And we did one hundred eighty accusations and we took it from four hundred people to seventy five thousand people. Seventy million in sales to forty seven billion number one or two mentality stole deaf. Jack welsh Unless you be the one or two players of cena it. Most companies are only one or two in one product category. We were number one when i left. Twelve product categories so my experience in life and knowing when to focus on market transitions competitors and technology transitions again not competitors. When you get the two combined that's when you can really break away. So that's what i learned in life. It's what i learned from the experience. And i learned but you do very well tell stories to remember points opposed to take to the bottom line which i didn't see very net. You're the five takeaways one. Two three four five. You got it. Let's go it's much better. If you tell the stories so people understand how you think and how you balance one of my weaknesses. I will often. I'm doing an interview. Like an with you. With one of my young ceos our show that i trust in my ceo that i'm sponsoring in a way to be able to share with the interviewer yuri strengths and his weaknesses or her weaknesses and strengths. And then i asked the question. What is the one thing or two things you like. Best about what. I bring to you as you strategic partner as well as an investor in west the one or two things you need to improve on all of them were remarkably good on their answers and i did at one day with one person best person shadowing me each one of them gave a different point but the one who hit home. I thought the most said john. You tend to thank and half comes in you. Connect the dots quickly and you go. Ab z. You get there so fast that you can lose people on the way and we have to slow you down to tell what should we look for on the way what changes have to occur so we need you to slow down. Is you teach us how to go forward on the direction he. They were absolutely right so another lessons learned for the listeners. Ask people not only. What are you doing right where you add value whether it's your own people report to your peers or giving back to society but also asked constantly. What do you need to do to improve. There's so many questions and follow up the one. I want to stick to early. Is this idea of pattern recognition. You brought it up a few times. I think it's something you are naturally endowed to be good at. But also i love the negative lesson of watching places and companies and people that don't change and the impact of that. Can you describe the role that pattern recognition played. Well the pattern recognition. I in the numbers the ability to be able to see the patterns based upon how a order rate went and a given day of any month in a given week of any month any quarter a given quarter in a year and see the patterns so accurately that for forty quarters in a row. We not only didn't miss. We were plus or minus always at the midpoint or above and the range the market even though eighty percent of our business new every quarter so we not only hit our year forecast. We hit the quarter forecasts. Always at the number. Usually two cents above people said well. How do you keep doing that. And i was kinda may. Somebody didn't go to the bottom line. Just take whenever four guess. We said an ad. Wendy do benny's bushehr and that's probably what we're going to do. But it was that pattern recognition that allowed us to spend money during the quarter and be able to develop in ways that others did not pattern recognition that there is a problem or an opportunity we saw at the very beginning which we dan adjust appropriately to. But it wasn't just at the top is all the way impera down through the various engineering and sales arms. They were able to see the numbers so accurately they knew what they needed to change to crack the headed time on it. So that pattern. Recognition is so key the pattern recognition. I've always been driven by customers. There was only one steve jobs. He just knew what to build how he did it in union. I knew him. Recently will always were amazed at still took in seven years. I short shortcut. That i get an idea of a market transition in by new technology and then go straight to customers and say what do you think so pattern. Recognition amplified by listening to the right customers at the right time on what they think. Either on the issue or the company allowed us to do one hundred eighty acquisitions with the highest track record. I think most everyone would ill. In the high tech industry they're modeled after what we did at cisco on we were machine on enquiring and we had the playbook which we haven't talked about patrick but we ran play books on everything we did from acquisitions to be in one or two in a product category. Two how you digitize a country etc in terms of direction so it is that pattern recognition than put into playbook that allows you to move speed. That is not a simple issue playbook pattern recognition than replicating that pattern much like a great sports team who runs the west coast offense or a warriors team the past one hundred thirty times per game which is more than anybody is ever done in history and wins ninety eight percent of the games when they pass a hundred and thirty times on it watching the patterns than replicated in playing it through and being able to tell those stories again on what works invites affable. You mentioned the crazy amount of acquisitions. I think there was more than a dozen. There were over a billion dollars at cisco during your tenure. I'd love to hear more about this playbook that you referenced sort of what the mental models where you had for an acquisition where should emanate fit in the toolkit and what were the best lessons learned doing so many. I'll try to go in the reverse order that you ask. I is when you try to do something that has not been successful in nineteen ninety three. When we did our first one acquisitions had tech. It failed miserably and we knew that we tried to do it with cubby. Get the same result unless we did it differently. Secondly a lot of smart people who worked hard to do acquisitions they failed. So if you're gonna do the same thing they are and think you're smarter just going to be wrong. We did a steady of. Why do we think the company's fill and what would we do different in the approach and the playbook that came out of it is very simple. I just don't do an acquisition that isn't re strategic to. They're really hard. Secondly understand what you acquire protective all cost. If you were bank of america being acquired by nationsbank out of these coast what nations was acquiring bush purely brand and geography. They wanna burn people. They lost a fair amount of the people but they achieve their financial goals. When you're in high tech what you really acquiring his engineers and arc position and if you don't keep those engineers and the sales teams etc. Then it's going to be a bad financial outcome for you most acquisitions. When companies acquired their attrition rate after golden handcuffs comes off for those who don't have golden handcuffs runs over twenty percent a year of their people. So it's a bad outcome so we would only do an acquisition where we felt we could keep the people and we looked at it culturally. If there wasn't a match on culture we walked and most people don't even think about is match on culture if you haven't got a similar culture you're not going to keep the employees. Acquiring is the employees next generation product is going to be a bad financial result so we walked from acquisitions that as we got into the evaluation process. We realized their culture different than ours. They weren't customer focused. We are customer focused but fanatical extent. You could argue. Is that right or wrong but for us. It's who we were customers. I our family employees. We are a family second. We believed in sharing the success of the company with our employees very broad range. We can keep that at the top could have done it easily but we felt if you share the success i you would be much bigger and more effective company and other way the senior execs will be taken care of if the company successful and so we dealt with that type of philosophy and i'd every position on no you've got ugly spots will probably find him but don't let us be surprised so tell us where the problems are and we're gonna choir you anyhow but don't let us find ourselves so in you situations where i found marseils one on stays in options and one where they let information out to the market. That had either come from the investment banker the company even though both of those would have been good financial for we walked and that was a call from the top in terms of the approach. So it is about how you think through these analysis. How you walk that pattern of what works in does not work. When that i missed one. Six hundred million dollar acquisition of a company called flip. It was a super hand held camcorder. That was so unique in the market. And i'd try be consumer market once before then tried once after flip filled all three but with the flip already had the set top boxes in your house when the cable companies or the service providers bringing it in that we were working with the content companies on. How do you add value to that. I felt the video would be even more home generate in the future. And if you could use the camcorder. Dying seth boxes architectures logical move for us and we. We acquired the company for six hundred million. We ran our playbook got off to a great start. People got the market fit. Then steve jobs held up a flip product on stage and said this is an amazing a good product and i want to compliment cisco on us. Mit what comes next. He said i'm gonna give this to you for free. He put it on the iphone for free and he hadn't and i should have realized that the product differential adl was not the physical product. It was the software in architecture and the ability store video in the cloud. And i should have moved earlier to go to all the major manufacturers a phone and say we need you to put the fifth day billion earphones that us be the cloud behind this and a small royalty and maybe we would have outmaneuvered apple in terms of the execution. So i got knocked down. Most people would say well. Your growth is still there. Wants to fight the battle out the jets game out not find a way to win. Apple is just too good and once they closed on us for free my business model would not work so we closed at six hundred million dollar down on it in three months and every time people hold out flaws about cisco's acquisition strategy. They say well the example of failures flip and this is why some companies are not good at querying cisco pretty was not on this list. And i go wait a minute. I told you if we do this world class two out of three acquisitions are gonna work. Which means went out of three. You're going to fail. I'm done twelve billion dollar plus acquisitions all worked at least for the first three to five years. Afterwards nafta that stuff their internal development for this in your beat me up on a six hundred million dollar acquisition in into acquisitions. We did this year one for one point. Two billion one for three point. Two billion both worked out. It's two out of three. The best ones worked out. Tell me again what i did wrong. And i realize at that time you're always gonna be criticized more from your missteps or you mistakes or the ones that didn't work out then. You will the successes. That's just part of leadership get used to it. That's never gonna change so those would be some of the lessons. Learned good and bad what you need to do. And the trade offs six etre. I love the idea of the emphasis on retention of the engineers post acquisition as the key differentiator in a good acquisition. That's a really interesting perspective but also understand that is in a issue where what you acquire is engineers and the products. That is not true when an bank acquires another bank or railroads merger automotive companies merge. So your key is standing what you really acquiring and protecting it at all cost. What did you learn about price and the type of deal you know. Stock debt equity the ability to deploy. You're kind of the eight hundred pound gorilla at the time the ability to deploy cisco's scale and size for effective acquisitions ran was hugely important. Our customers bought into the concept of we build architectures where routing and switching and security and wireless in the cloud servers worked together on those architectures. Therefore we did an acquisition. We say our customers use our own direction. They watched us do acquisitions. Order that works. So they weren't concerned about with this work on it and we positioned on outcome at a time. Everybody else was selling products and direction is basic as that sounds. That's what we did that. Our peers did not. We had a much higher rate on acquisitions working but we built them into architectures which most people couldn't even say the word engineers originally didn't like the concept. They wanted to build best and fast products. I said no. We want to best architectures that we could add. Do and move with speed on in terms of our branding market power. We never used price as a competitive leverage. My view is that we were going for the best margins. The industry that we want a good competitor because we got good competitors they force you to change we would not choose our financial strength to price in ways that others could not keep up. My competitors were ten to twenty percent less expensive than we were with good march so we competed on architectures outcomes and benefits to customers and in the team we had the best. Cfo in the industry was very carter. We had the best sales leader in the industry. We had the best engineers leaders in the industry. We had the best business development team for seven generations of business development. The top person at cisco was the top in the industry on emanate and business development. So we build a machine and a culture that loved to play together that worked culturally together. I would take the team up fishing with me to alaska most the time. It's announced the bahamas at expense entirely and we'd build culture of collaboration and carrying you learn a lot about people when they're out in the middle of nowhere and come around the corner in this Grizzly bear that it could destroy you and it wasn't used aim depot and how they respond to it. Now you adjust one of the people you mentioned was perhaps one of the more talented sales leaders. You mentioned steve jobs. Everyone always thinks about product and obviously product is critical. What gets way less attention far less sexy as distribution. But i think a lot of the story of cisco is incredible distribution story that you largely helped architect along with your team. Can you talk about the lessons. You learned there about building. A great channel and distribution salesforce one of my toughest competitors is a company called. Juniper was one of the very few. And i can say now that we weren't able to knock out. We always competed like we'd like to be competed against and and we were tough. Competitors would never do. Somebody else would have a problem with. They did to us. Juniper hit a really good product and soda wellfleet but what none of them had was a sales machine. We combine and great products with a unbelievable great cells machine in distribution and the juniper leadership several of them nearly as recently as five or six years ago john. We just never understood as you did. The importance accorded products not just selling themselves but the importance of a sales machine that brings value to customers outcome based and the distribution. That goes with so we delivered eighty percent of our product even though we were dragged touch with ourselves people through our distribution channels and our distribution channels was game. You one of the secret sauce says that many people did not understand. It was one of the key secrets win wa wa came at us. Lee offered unbelievable financial and sinise direct. Probably some not as direct as fat to the companies to switch over. How many of them do we lose while way none. You treat people like you like to be treated yourself. You focus on how they win at achieve their objectives. Your therefore good times and bad times. So that's the fabric that we built our company on. We made mistakes along the way and is out says towns far from perfect but we enjoy competing and we tried to compete with. The rules. would like to be competed against the same way. Can you tell me what you've learned from shimon peres. I was fascinated by some of the lessons. You shared with me before about your relationship with him. He was a rich say. No in in israel israeli the a lot of the real creative rains and developing a very effective defense organization that with a population of only about six or seven million could take on countries that had in total hundreds of millions of people eight then switched to peace and focused on. How do you focus on peace and peace in the middle east and pieces. The only way economically is walls benefit of his citizens and others for this fokker. And i literally would go with him into the country even during the toughest of times we go into the streets of upper nazareth and lower nazareth and into the christian communities into the jewish community in their community. He would just be crushed. People want to seem but if somebody wanted shotting they could house right. Presiding that fearlessness. And that trying to do the right thing in the love of the people regardless of religion learned a lot. He was inclusive of everyone. He got me to be. Were patient with people that perhaps disagree with. He taught me. Leadership was lonely asset shimon. What do you mean it's lonely. I've got forty thousand people around me at this time. Were part of a team and he said john. Thanks get really tough. You need to know you will be by yourself. Doesn't mean people won't want to support you but you will be by yourself and boy. He was right when. I made my tough decisions. Real tough decisions. All the people supported me. If they hadn't work they would have changed. Me and two thousand was the worst. I mean you sit up on the roof of your house and you look at. Are you the right person to do this. Your stomach's turning you know you can lay off people. You're gonna do this quicker than anybody else has ever done it. You're telling people ahead of time that this one hundred year flood which it may not be but you believe it is. You can get beat up for that. You're gonna lay off what ended up being seven thousand people you've been announce it an implemented in fifty one days. It is lonely really lonely at just something leaders have to now. The fun thing is now. Get the tc's young ceo startups. About either ship. And i go here. The four characteristics of the ceo in terms of vision strategy for the company. Bill developed recruit the right leadership team implemented vision strategy communication skills which extremely important especially now on the role of social media and culture. And the only for jobs you have. And i teach them how to deal with crisis management here. The rule book you do during economic downturns political challenges. A real problem with the media. And here's how you many sue that and then i'll remand him that. It will be lonely during this time period when you hit the duff. Tom's and while you're friends. And i wanna help you some will turn on you. You never anticipated the media who could senior blazes wednesday. We'll come right at you the next day usually a different reporter but the same publication would do it on it. This is just part of leadership. And you're about to enter and not depend on the situation a quarter or perhaps even a year three four five quarters of really tough times and i'm gonna tell you it's gonna be hard on you and you will be very lonely and teach them how to do that and then at a little bit of humor. You remind him that. I've seen this not done. This and i know you're going to go through a tough weekend. Based on what i just shared with you planning for what's going to occur and i'm gonna have a bourbon and ginger and think about you and the point that i'm making a little bit of humor but it also is not fun for me now crisis management and having seen so many of them than some rights on them wrong is so helpful to others. That reminding them like shimon. Presdent leadership is so lonely. Otherness think like a teenager always think out of box. We head him over here a house. He wanted to come to silicon valley. He was constantly benchmarking and he said john. I wanna come to your home and this is at the time. There is huge friction between israel and iran and there are strong rumors probably more than rumors that there may be a defensive strike by israel against iran and so he was target's share with my wife that she has to do this and she said of course we knew that probably do the best of protect him and us while he's here is it turned out. There are eight different security groups from israel the us local cyber crews people with rifles on the house. People are in the woods looked like a scene from meaty with lights and everything going on and yet he when he came to the house that evening he was meeting with the number startup up some disease in some friends of the biggest companies here in the valley. He was the most relaxed man around. He immediately started to talk and as he did. So will within five minutes. All of us to stop eating. Were trying to find a piece of paper and pencil to take notes. And he was teaching office about leadership about dealing with problems he was sitting in the safest seed in the dining room. That would require the hardest shot for a sniper from way far off to hit him. He didn't even sweat. He always had a great sense of humor calmness during the tough times and he said john i understand. You've got electric car. And i said yes sir. I do hybrid. He said i want to go see it and maybe drive it. I said mr president. Your security team told me i could only have you in the dining room area here in only in this seed and early in the living room area and that i was to make sure you didn't leave this area. He said john. You know how the president back. Yes sir i look over the security team and they were already scrambling so we down of elevator as we get out there he looks at this car and you really gets fascinated by it and say john. I wanna drive it. Let's go all of a sudden you see people scramble every which way how did he get ahead of this and his chief of staff came over and she said john. I don't know how to tell you this. He does not have a driver's license and he has driven in over a decade pass. It this is really interesting so we got agassi. I got into the passenger seat. Were sitting there and he's asking questions who's going through erase scam. Went outside with what's going to happen next. They said okay. I just wanted to get a feel for it. Let's go back upstairs. Venue roundtable with your friends. He had a element of making everybody feel comfortable around him. He taught you. He said i'm ninety seven years old. But you've got gotta think and dream like you were a teenager again to really do innovation have innovation. Gump from twenty year olds. They still are thinking like a teenager. But have the education to really take the risk and changes but he said age is not your issue on innovation. It's thinking like a teenager. It is and it's an important category for all of us to have as we move forward. I'd love to play off that with your relationship with the squadron of young founders that you now work with and spend a lot of your time with you mentioned the four areas are the key responsibilities of any ceo. And i think the first you said it was mission and vision. Which i think if you think like a teenager maybe you do a better job of that first one. What in those four dimensions do you find your role to be the most effective at helping younger entrepreneurs originally. I thought the first two would be most important. How do you combine mission and vision was sustainable differentiation in the market. Because that's how you get your financing. That's how you get the economic result successor and when people write about grace startups in great leaders of startups. They always right about mission invasion the second element which the leaders either already understand or learn quickly. It's about having the leadership team that can implement that vision and mission and work with you effectively and changing part of that leadership team as you grow because it's almost never when you can take your top seven leaders from the start up all the way through and make changes as hard to do as fishy for people you love and care about on the direction. So i thought that would be where i'd add the most value teaching them how to scale organization revolution when to change people. How do you do acquisitions. is your vision. Really tight is a sustainable house. A competitor others compete on market. Transitions in that vision. Not against competitors etc but actually the most important elements in that approach is the third and fourth point. It is communications and it is culture and especially during the tough times. What gets you through is how well you communicate to the press to your employees to your shareholders to your customers and culture. What a lot of people really never grass thesis esco is so hard to beat. It was culture. I mean we were. One family took care of each other like family. We played together as family. If you didn't fit into that. We moved you outside the company and my mistakes often that i left somebody who was not a cultural match. Stay in the company. Too long now remind people at the startups. The miniature get somebody. Who's not cultural match. I don't harm secondly if it if they are in the company you've got the face amount of it because the damage they do. The culture and communications is actually wear often. Add the most benefit to these young ceo's even though at first most of them really are not interested as much in communications in if it is communication dismore had i get people to invest in the company and an cultures of the often. You get spend time on one of my best examples of that. Was the ceo of a company called as new york. Just recently came out of stealth mode amazing artificial intelligence customer experience company that understood bishen strategy. Remarkably will their average orders like ten million dollars. When they were still in stealth i found Etc but culturally when i'd share with cassava their. Ceo's just brilliant than really good. He didn't seem interested in the culture. And i finally said we learned that over time about the time i quit talking to him about it. He said john. I gotta presentation business meeting this next week to mind group would you mind reviewing it with u. s. it of course and it turned out when he did that with me. It wasn't a business review at all. It was a cultural review on who they are how they were to get their base to fall in review. Everybody else and he got he understood. Culture has to be owned by the ceo. Not human resources owned by the ceo. Human resources is the one that implements. You don't kid about your culture. Don't put things on your culture that you really don't consider really important really important. If you are saying family i and you treat people that way. You are seeing customers. I and you treat people that way. It's just do the right thing then. You always make your decision on. What's the right thing. Regards the financial implication of it. I believe that every year you take a small group to alaska to be outside together a group of the leaders you back or other young leaders what sorts of transformations happen on a trip. Like that their magical. I did it originally team building. What i didn't realize is how much each of us learn from each other. How much that would calls the team to stay together. Long after other teams did not out of the group that i did this were at cisco for twenty years. It was mainly cisco less a few outside france that we did the trip with and then over the last four years. It's with about ten experience leaders who've seen the movies from different angles from a supply chain angle from a sales angle from an engineering perspective from a financial perspective from a human resource cultural perspective and cabana with twelve startups. And then having them each go out and in the boat so we to be on your with that person for either half day or full day you go into remote locations you really get to know each other well etc you fly in on onto the plane and they come pick up to the end of the day you get to know each other real will the evenings. We have toast. I call on different leaders at different times to say what was your day. Like what was your takeaway. What was your cultural aspect that you learned as factors in their communications is francine them getting put on the spot. It's reminding him that you don't want to have more the wondering of wag on you to make a misstep there even though your team was still love you if you do make missteps. It's building culture while some of the lessons learned on how to build great engineering organizations or great sales channel organizations and the knicks about sixty percent male forty percent female but one of my favorite sessions is when i had a young ceo vj out of been drop in atlanta and he was learning about diversity but he was trying to understand more the importance of diversity and why diverse teams out execute teams that look alike and the importance of gender and that diversity not from a negative perspective. But he's just saying teach me teach me how to do it. Dramatically better than others and so it had a full day official name and there were five of us there on it and we waiting for the boat to come and pick us up and we were on the issue of inclusion. And how do leap people. How do you create an environment. Where going to be one of the most attractive places for females to work and part of the culture. They wanna be a part of and one of the mistakes that you're gonna make as leader. What are the trade offs and we're sitting in the water. That's only about a foot deep and waiting for the plane. They come up and talk with us. And i have three of the top women in the world in their industries ranging from pharmacy goal to supply chain operational leadership etc. Two channels and. They're teaching him. Also they would teach me a little bit as a reminder and the conversation was so good. I just got up and grassley while quietly away from the group and i went back and i took a picture with. Bj with three of the top women executives in the world and their categories sitting there completely engaged in the middle of alaska birds background. I don't know if there is a bear in the background on runways way or not and we just finished fishing. We cut our limits and bat. Was the picture i value the most three women with their backs to vj soaking it up and learning. So is that ability to bring together teams and cultures and room make it happen and build relationships for life so when these twelve. Ceo's go back. They can call up any one of the senior people who've been through movies before instead. How do you handle this. You know this person here. What would you suggest etc. And it's also what any good sports teams understand. You are so much more powerful when you build your own company with the team. That is completely united with diversity and differences of opinions when you build an ecosystem like two channels around you consultant surveillance that others do not have that makes you near unbeatable. What's that worth. an answer. Return almost priceless cultural return a believable and when people talk about what i do quotas vce. I'm not a vc. In the traditional sense. I'm a strategic partner person. Did touch them grow in scale. I will provide them tough. Love will always be right. But i'll tell you what i think. The trade offs are and how form friendships for life. And i will only back you as long as your culture. What you represent is in the areas that i believe that it should be definitely might be as a right but i don't advise companies that have a different culture than i believe that i try to represent. I try to teach people how important it is. Chinese made a career of pattern recognition. Seeing transitions happen over and over again you mentioned earlier. This change that will disrupt the number of jobs available and now not keeping up with that pace to replace those jobs being lost to automation et cetera. What are the other major transitions that you are watching in the world right now. I think the biggest transitions is every company. And every employee of every organization will be a digital company a digital employees regardless of age and tech company doesn't matter if you're manufacturing government defense retail technology companies understanding that is the core foundation and will completely transform. The biggest transition is the speed of change alluded earlier to speed of job. Destruction an automation. That actually is shorted through the downturn and the pandemic ways that people might not have thought would occur other elements is did two percent of the large companies exist. Today would not exist in a decade in a meaningful way and understanding back to the point that we talked about earlier the importance of a lot more startups at scale and yet how many government leaders regardless of your politics are focusing on startups as a key economic engine for their future to create a regulatory environment that is very friendly to start ups and very much conducive to the implications of that used the. Us ample remotely. I think silicon valley as a wakeup call coming so does new. York city and seattle eighty one percent of the employees of the companies are saying to think about. Should i've either diff- somewhere else. Think about being somewhere else. Understanding them when these transitions occur. They wait for no one just because you lead in one generation of a win decade. there's no entitlement. you must change john. I'm so sad to be at the end of our time together. But i'm forced to turn to my traditional closing question which has to ask you for the kindest thing that anyone's ever done for you. The kindest thing does ever done to me when my parents my dad taught me how to dream make dreams come true and how to deal with the toughness that life inevitably deals to you with the onus etc. My mom taught me. The emotional accu sat in the house. How she never a young person ever let me go to bed. Mad hit my sisters are or others who absolutely deserved by the way reagan about you. Don't go to sleep angry. You learn how to forgive so probably the kindest thing was how those fearance balance balanced me and my two sisters and tatis the trade off in life it has been so you need to partially my success but also i've been able to deal with the challenges john. This has been so much fun. I'm going to have to listen a few times to be able to extract all the lessons. You share with us through great stories so appreciative of your time. Thanks for doing. This is my pleasure. Your amazing interviewer you several questions. I'd not heard before which is unusual. A of hope your listeners enjoyed it and understand that if you agree with everything said you're not failed. I wanna make him comfortable. I want you to learn about leadership and mistakes made and it's fine to disagree. I actually think that makes you stronger as a leader and as a nation by having healthy given acorn issues. Well thanks so much again. This has been a real pleasure. Lots to learn. I really appreciate it now. Patient this episode was brought to you by microsoft for startups microsoft for startups is a global program. Dedicated to helping enterprise ready. Bb startup successfully scale their companies in this five part mini series. We talked agree. Lock partner som- otemachi and microsoft for startups lead. Jeff ma about why companies should partner with microsoft startups. In this week's episode we talked with psalm. Motamedi a partner gray lock about his initial investment in microsoft startups customer abnormal security. So som- perhaps you could begin by giving the audience a bit of brief background on yourself. What sort of investing you do and how. You came across abnormal security. I'm one of the general partners here at gridlock. I focus on the enterprise side of our practice gridlock. A fifty five year old venture firm that primarily invested consumer enterprise software and what we invest across all stages. I personally really focus on being the first capital partners entrepreneurs whether that's at the seed or series as stage and focus on new companies being started in saas. Am allen date. Infrastructure and security of mobile is a very interesting story for a secretary lock. I think one of the things that's unique about. Gridlock is we've over. The years spent time in been fortunate to actually help. Initiate new companies from scratch in our offices like workday in palo alto networks historically and more recently companies like sumo logic awake security in a normal security so it has a little bit of unusual story. My partner ashim and i first met evidence. Sanjay founders about normal. There were known to us Lock because they previously worked at a company called teleport which was also initiated at gray. Lock by now partner. Josh mcfarland that company was building. High-skill machine learning systems for ad tech use cases and i company ultimately went on to be acquired by twitter and evidence. Sanjay left that company with the ambition to go start a new company that would take expertise around building high scale. Highly performant machine learning systems to solve an important problem for the enterprise and so what they did over a multi-month month before the company was started before a line of code had been written and before we invested was speak with something like a hundred enterprise. Ceo's in seaso's to do customer discovery in problem discovery and donaldson me led them to landing on the idea for security. The basic premise being email continues to be the dominant channel for business communication and therefore the integrity insecurity of email is of paramount importance for enterprises. What's happened over the last five to seven years is attackers. Have gotten more sophisticated. And a threat landscape round email has shifted from spam and phishing too much more targeted spearfishing and business compromise attacks. And what evidence. Andre realize was they could take some of the techniques that they use a tele part to solve these more advanced attacks and use machine learning systems to build baselines of what normal employee communication looks like and then catch anomalies deviations from that in take that approach to build a new email security solution so we have the chance to to ride shotgun with them during that multi-month discovery process. And at the end you know. They had a one point zero product document. They had an initial set of customers. Who are ready to try the product. Once it was delivered in they started the company and we were lucky to to partner with now. What are some of the things that you're investing before a line of code is written. I find that quite interesting stage tobacco company. that's then going to be selling into very large businesses. what was it about. The discovery process the conversations with cio's and others. That made you confident enough that there would be buyers once the thing was built. What are the signals that you need to see as an investor to gain that confidence. I think when we invest before a line of code has been written. We spent a lot of time thinking about the market dynamics and whether those dynamics can support the start of a new company and so either. If you're starting a new company from scratch your you're either. We think of it in three buckets. You're replacing an existing incumbent you're exploiting new market that's just begun to emerge or you're going to create a new market from scratch so i remember when it happened in sanjay started this. They had mocked up what a prototype could look like and as you showed this to different. Seaso's a very large percentage of them resonated with. Hey this isn't important problem around these advanced spearfishing and business email compromise attacks. It's not served while the existing in security providers and if a new solution came out the had the characteristics you're summarizing we'd have high interest in trying something like that out so what evidence andrea were able to do was take some of the customers who got the most excited and convert them into early design partners and those people essentially signed up with something that arrogance even more valuable than dollars early on which is. Hey if you guys start this. It's so important to us that we will figure out some cadence to sync with you and help drive your product roadmap so you end up building something that not only suits our needs but suits the needs of other customers like us and then when that product is delivered will purchase a product. And that's it's rare to get that depth that signal early on and i think it speaks to the importance of a problem and so when we saw the combination of that breadth and depth. That actually made it. Very obvious that this was informed market opportunity to find more episodes. Where sign up for our weekly summary visit investor field guide dot com thanks for listening to founders field guy.

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SIO266: Why Sam Harris Is Wrong about Police Killings

Serious Inquiries Only

54:39 min | 5 months ago

SIO266: Why Sam Harris Is Wrong about Police Killings

"You're listening to serious inquiries on And welcome to serious inquiries. Only this is episode. Two hundred and sixty six. I'm thomas and back with me is lindsay ostrom and hide it really really good. Yeah everything in. My house is nice. That's all i know about. But i know we. You know that question should be stricken from the record in twenty twenty degrees. Every podcast has to do it. But i should just say salutations has great. You are on the show neutral statements. Okay actually accurate. So how do we explain what we're trying to do here. Well as i said. Back when lindsey. I started coming on the show. Well not i. I but started coming on the show. I dunno months ago. Now we had so many things we wanted to talk about So many ways. That i think her scientific expertise could could really help us breaks and things down and this is one of those things many listeners to the show likely used to be or maybe even still our listeners. To the sam harris podcast he used to be a big influence on me back down eight years ago six years ago until in my opinion he kinda lost it if you heard that episode where he tried to do it's called canley pull back from the brink and it was gonna save my thoughts on overall but the point is within an episode. And it's not just. This isn't just a reply. to sam harris. Because within the conservative kind of ecosystem there was a response to the george floyd protests to the black lives matter protests. That i know we're all we've all aged seventy years in the last year but do you remember when we had only aged about thirty five years in the last year in june. When we were all. I don't know in our late. Seventies that that those protests obviously we're huge deal and i in fact side note even set at the time. There's no way we're going to be able to maintain all this energy long enough to actually drive the reform that we need and it's not any of ours. There's too many things so anyway. Get uncovering all this. Onion layer of things here. There is some research that sam harris those people coming from kind of there are many people who are very anti black lives matter and one of the things that gets cited some of the stuff that gets cited Is this research that you've looked into. That has the maybe surprising conclusion. That wouldn't you know it. Actually black people aren't killed by police officers as much or when you adjust for certain variable so yes lindsay is here to maybe Tell us why those aren't accurate. Yeah because one thing that everybody agrees on regardless of you know whether in the they're in the same campus. Sam harris or support black lives matter. Everybody agrees that black people as a function of the population in the us are killed disproportionately by police officers. That's not something that anybody disagrees on But the issue that has come up in the way that The people the researchers that we're gonna be talking about today make this claim is that population isn't the appropriate benchmark. Be judging whether there's disproportionality disproportionality and how often black versus white people are being killed by police. It's a sam. Harris has talked about this and candace. Owens has talked about this ton of people of trotted out Findings from these articles that we're gonna be talking about today to support that claim in. It sounds very convincing. If you don't know what's wrong with the math that they did right. So that's the talking point. You hear a ton from a lot of anti conservative. Anti black lives matter people. it's while look sure. There may be disproportionate killings or whatever rest everyone say but black people responsible for x amount of the crime so therefore so that's how the claim goes every time. I wanna do a side note for the process of researching this. We both had to listen to a bunch of sam harris. I didn't. I don't want this to be a replying to sam hairs episode. However i have pages of notes replying to sam harris because it was so frustrating to listen to that. So what we're going to do is after this will do a like a patron only bonus episode where we more specifically address those sam harris. But this we're kind of hoping it'd just be more. You know not directly in response to him but responding to some of these claims because they're being made everywhere i mean. This is a fox news claim to this is this is a broad problem when it comes to The disagreements on police reform. Yeah exactly and and i really you know. I think it's important to be able to say in response to those things than just like well. That's probably not true like that. Sounds wrong Because it does sound wrong but But yeah. I think it's important to dig into so these these papers have been critiqued on very technical ways and so i think you're going to have to keep me honest here in terms. I'll try. yeah how clear. It is but But i think this'll be. I really hope this will be helpful for people all right. So yeah so. We're gonna talk about the claims of to vary widely cited studies that examine some version of these claims about. How actually you know black. People are not killed by police at higher rates and and if anything that white people were killed higher rates by police so the first article is by johnson trespass taylor and cesario it was published in twenty nine thousand. Nine hundred and the title. Here is officer characteristics and racial disparities in fatal officer involved shootings. It was cited forty five times. And it's only. It was only out for like a year before it was retracted. So that's a lot. That's retracted. Everybody you'd sky. I wasn't sure when you were gonna say that. Yeah that's a big deal that may be if people are still referencing. This retracted paper. That's indeed a problem Yeah so it was. It was cited forty five times alone just in the academic literature. That's that's massive for for only being out for year right But in the popular press this has been cited a ton right at personalities and things. Talk about this all the time that well side note this is what is so weird in kind of doing the thing we do. Here on a podcast. If you're on the left which is the right has this ecosystem that's very. I don't know what to say like centralized or something once they get on a thing once they're like. Oh this paper shows this. They all do it like they instantly all adopt that thing and so it goes from you know this obscure academic papers possibly to all. My god is being cited everywhere all the time. It's very weird. Yeah it is. It is and yeah. It's a problem. Yeah so this is one of the ones. That harris referenced explicitly in episode. Can we pull back from the brink And it's been criticized on at least two grounds and those are the two. We're gonna those to critiques. We're gonna talk about today. So the first. The most widely cited claim here that i want to criticize. Is that In this paper. They claimed that they found no evidence of anti black anti hispanic bias in fatal officer involved shootings and they claim that they found that white officers. Were not more likely to shoot minorities than non white officers to officer race to predict the race of the person being shot. That's the first claim that we want to talk about here. The second claim that we want to talk about is this claimed they made that. I'm going to quote here. They said that a person fatally shot by police was more than More than six times six point six seven times less likely to be black than white in a typical shooting in a typical officer. Involved shooting the sound like similar claims. But there's there we're going to critique them in different ways right okay. So those that's where we're going to we're going to try. To debunk here. So i wanna start with a little bit of information about the article itself and the way they got their data and things. Because i think that's important to critiquing this. So they opened up their article by talking about recent high-profile shootings of black americans. This was pre. George floyd and they suggest that it's it's very important very central to interpreting these cases as to whether black civilians are really overrepresented in fatal officer. Involved shootings And whether racial disparities are due to discrimination by white officers right saying these are the central things that people care about when they're talking about these these cases end like those seem reasonable claims. Right i mean. I think that those are probably central things that people are talking about. Our pr are minorities being discriminated against and is this because of of racism on the part of cops. Yeah that's it. Opens up a can of worms already. I wanted to say the same thing. Yeah yeah because. I think that i think that most people who are informed about this issue have concerns. That are way past the bad apples argument. It's it's definitely not just about a few racist cops. And i have noticed that with the conservative side of this argument and all these things. There's an obsession and obsession with the what were the actual end of individual motives of the person while they were doing the thick. Let's do it with trump. They do all there wasn't there. What if there's some other explanation for why he even had this argument with my family at one point you know. There's always something other than racism. That explains everything and you know to the black man who's being murdered by someone putting their knee on his neck. I don't doesn't get matters whether or not that individual officer is like yes. I am trying to be a racist right now. And that's the big problem so that's one of my biggest but that's kind of a macro level criticism on this conversation. I don't know how to apply exactly to these studies. I mean it might also be interesting to know if there's a individual bias problem you know. It's not as though we shouldn't be looking at that. But that if you if you even if you proved which you may well be able to. There's almost no individual officer bias in individual altercations. That would not at all solve the problem. No i totally agree and actually that is. That is one of my central critiques of this paper. Okay i mean it's it's not one of the statistical ones but they do this they do this move that i see a lot and i feel. Here's a little bit which is like all right. We're going to attack this one piece. That would be relevant to interpersonal racism. and then when we don't find support for it if we don't find support for it we're going to say okay so you know. The more important thing is just to try to get black people to stop being such criminals all the time. And that's that's not an appropriate move. I mean obviously it's not an appropriate move. But they do it they do it in a very subtle way and not too many So this is why. It's systemic and i know you probably hear that term a lot everybody and it really does capture it because it's not any one thing and that's what makes it so difficult. And what frustrates me about the. And i know we're gonna get more to it later. But in the sam harris conversation he makes reference passing reference to all income inequality inequality big problem. But it's like well. Yeah but that's all part of it like if yeah if you've got a subset of your population that is just dramatically less wealthy than the other set you know like. Do you not think that's going to cause problems which then might lead to over policing which then my you know lead. Moore's these altercations. which then has you know. Statistically it's gonna lead to more of them going wrong it does. It may not mean not that we can say for sure. Either way while you'll tell me what the data says but it may not mean that like individual motivated. Racism is the biggest issue. It may not mean but there's still a huge problem. Yeah absolutely i mean may say that he agrees below that. But you know another problem that i had with that episode. Is that like even if he does agree with all that his emphasis some completely different. Yeah okay. I don't don't get started on that. We're going to do it layer. We're gonna just absolutely tear that episode new one at a later date. But let's get back. Cutty sark. mary. All right cool. Okay okay. so so they are. They are talking about this broad problem and then they focus on this very specific claim rights of the central question. That sort of is his guiding. The research is what is the best way to really look at racial disparities in policing so we'd be looking at how many black versus white people are killed as a function of total population or issue. Or is there a more precise benchmark that we could use. Call this like the benchmarking problem. and so they you know. They acknowledged the past research that is used population as the benchmark showed that black people are killed at higher rates proportion personally to population But they're critique is that this calculation doesn't account for the number of encounters between police and civilians by racism so it could just be the counters higher for black civilians and that as a read of encounters rather than total population. Fatalities are equivalent by race. Or maybe you see the reverse or something now spoiler. They don't actually have information about police encounters in this paper this on the other one too they make this case about like what really what we need is encounters and they don't they don't have it well. I think that's a big problem here. Yeah with with with all sides of this even people who are trying to get the stats in aren't trying to just do racist conservative talking points. We don't have the data on on this. We might have decent data on killings. Because i know especially now like a lot of newspapers a lot of websites like tracking this and like yes trying to you know. Make sure none of those names fall through the gaps but in terms of just encounters. We we really do not have that data. No no we don't And especially not in a way that wouldn't be biased from the outset. Right right so we can come back to that. I've gotten there's a few notes i have about like. Here's what's a methods could look like the actually be better and getting us to that but anyway but yeah so. They don't have information about encounters. The fact that they are talking about encounters here is just a way of lake shoehorning in a claim later that black americans get killed more because they're violent criminals right. They're going to use a proxy. That is not encounters to predict the race of shooting victims. And it just. It doesn't work anymore. Yeah so they're making the point. That's the conclusion that you draw out. Racial disparities really depends on the back. Benchmark that you use and that's definitely true. sure it does. And so johnson colleagues suggests that one remedy to the benchmark problem is to use regression analyses to predict the race of the civilian that is shot in these officer involved shootings using various variables that could account for racial disparities so specifically in this study they predict within a database of all the civilians killed by police fire in two thousand fifteen. The race of the person shot using information about the race of the officer plus a few other characteristics About the civilian. Who was shot such as whether they were armed whether they were attacking police Again all of which are according to the police officers exactly much wrong. Isn't it every single time. We have video of shooting. That's just objectively terrible killing this subjectively terrible what it will go down as a according to polices well. He had what looked like a gun or he was on danger. And then never nothing ever happens to that story until there's protests until there's widespread attention on it and then all of a sudden we get the the video at the facts and things change. Yeah yeah exactly. I mean actually. We're gonna come back to those types of shootings in the second. Study that we talk about so that'll be fun right. So that's what they're trying to do. The trying to predict the race of civilians who are shots based on these different characteristics. So let me let me clarify. So when you're saying predict your so we already have that data but they're trying to like do a prediction and then match it up. Is that what you're saying or to see where discrepancies are. I'll grab the analytical strategy and a little bit later but they're using they're using regression analysis and you're essentially like trying to Calculate predicted values for some outcome on the basis of predictor variables. Okay yeah i'll come back to that. That's that's a we're going to have to talk too much about regression. Actually let's hasten that but Yeah okay so so they use this database of fail officer involved shootings. It was originally actually collected by the washington. Post and the guardian and they added to it So all fatal officer involved shootings in the us in two thousand fifteen. They limited their analysis to people who were shot that were white black or hispanic And across all of those cases there was something like nine hundred fatal shootings during two thousand fifteen in order to supplement missing data. That weren't there from the original database collected by the washington. Post and stuff They actually called six hundred eighty four police departments and requested info on the race sex in years of experience of the officers involved which i mean the one good thing i can say about. The study is it. That's a pain in the ass process and the ended up with the database. That i think you could actually do some interesting things with but anyway so they received information back from those departments Got complete data on sixty two percent of the shootings from that and then for the missed for the that was still missing. They went out to police or to like newspaper articles and things in court documents and added more to the data set so when all was said and done they had complete officer information for seventy two percent of the shootings in the set and partial information on the officers for ninety six percent of the shootings. So that's that's pretty good. That's a. That's a decently complete data set. So that's their data set. Before i go any further. I do want to underline one thing right so again. They started with this. Very broad context. People are getting shot by police. Why is that happening. And then it turns out that they're actually testing incredibly narrow question of whether officer characteristics impact. Racial disparities only among people who have been fatally shot. And the reason. I want to underline. This is because the that they ultimately draw. Do not describe what they are actually testing. This research is not looking at the risk of being fatally shot if you have an encounter with police or even the risk of dying if you're shot by police it's analyzing the racial makeup of a group of people who were fatally shot by police officers and that brings us to the first critique already even before we've seen the data so There was a response to this paper. Published by knocks mumble. Oh in two thousand twenty. And they pointed out that given that they're only investigating the selected pool of cases right incidents in which an officer shot someone and they died the possible inference. That you can draw here are super limited link you. You can't make a claim about whether white officers are more likely to shoot minority civilians. Have that information. You would need information about encounters in order to make that claim yeah right. That's that's essentially claim about rates And you can't make a rate unless you have the the denominator there right so the way that they have framed. Their conclusions is is not matching up with the data that they actually have game I'm actually going to quote their conclusion here. Just to to show that. I'm not making this up so This is the second paragraph of their discussion section. They say we did not find evidence for anti black anti hispanic disparity in police use of force across fatal shootings. And if anything we found anti white disparities when controlling for ray specific crime right. So if. I'm a journalist. And i read this statement. What do i for white people are more likely shot by police right. Yeah that's not names to be what they're saying yes. It clearly seems to be what they're saying. They made a response to this where they were like. Oh no this is just misinterpretation. Like no sorry dude like you are culpable for that misinterpretation right. This was incredibly unclear in the way that reporting it so knox in molo in their response. They said that in order to make the claim that you're making you need to have the number of encounters between officers and civilians the various races in other words. You need to compute a proportion and they just don't have that so this is. This is one of the central critiques. Here that's that motivated the authors to retract the article right after they were sort of hammered on this. I don't know if we mentioned this. They retracted the article. That seems seems like a big deal to me. It is a big deal. It is a it is a huge deal and side note. Yeah it's been cited after being retracted. Still right i mean people are still referencing it as though gospel no. I'm sure yeah. I mean i can't remember Sam harris a second episode when he had his guest on to talk about the stuff. I can't remember when that was released. But this this paper was retracted in july. I think if this year okay so so maybe it would have been after the first but before the second one but but anyway it could have been. Yeah anyway but yeah. I mean once you know about the research. If i've already read the article i'm not going to necessarily know. It was retracted. Yeah like you would only know if you download the article now because it says retracted along the all right so so that's the first critique right. They're they're making a clear can't possibly make based on the data all right so the second critique is about like the specific way. They went about their analyses. So yeah we're talking about regression for a minute so in a regression analysis. You're again you're trying to predict some outcome variable and they used a specific form of regression analysis allows you to predict the outcome of binary variable so in this case they were looking at race there as their binary variables so the person who was shot. Were they black or were they white and then they had other analysis where they were saying are the hispanic or white okay. Yeah and so what they did was Create these prediction models that would allow them to predict the race of the person who was shot on the basis of all these characteristics so again they had the age race and experience of the officers involved in the shooting shooting characteristics so they they had in their data set whether the civilian was armed Whether there was evidence of mental health issues recorded by police whether they were reported attack the police officer and so on and then they also had information on county characteristics so they had What proportion of the county was white black and hispanic what proportion of homicides committed in the county were committed by white black and hispanic offenders and so one that actually ends up being a central role in their conclusions. Even though they don't really play that. Up in the tyler intro. So because again they're going to make the case that black people get shot because they're criminals so According to them right they're they're results. Indicate that in fatal officer involved shootings the probability that the fatally shot civilian Was a minority. Member versus white did not increase as a function of how many white officers were involved in the shooting. And this is the the primary thing that they're using to claim that lake. You know certain indirectly. They're using this to claim the lake so it can't be individual racism on the part of officers because it was then more white officers should mean higher probability that the person being shot as a minority with there seems to be so much wrong with that. Yes there is. This goes in line with one of the counter arguments. You hear all the time. Which is that. Actually you know black officers and hispanic officers shoot people. The black people in spank people just as much or more. Well i think that that predates this paper. I mean that goes back a long way and you know. I've been hearing that argument for a long time and again it. There's two two problems with that one. Is that individual. Racism is not necessarily even what we're looking at here. That's not the biggest problem. It'd be a problem but not like the biggest issue. It's systemic not about any one individual bad apple to it assumes that black or hispanic officers couldn't display racism against black or hispanic suspects totally. Yes and i mean. I know that same. Here's probably doesn't like the implicit bias literature. Either but there is evidence from the psychological literature indicating that like all people regardless of their race seem to have the same implicit associations with certain social categories. Right so yeah do regardless of who you are. You have an association between young black males and So yeah totally agreed. Lot wrong with this especially making it. The focal analysis is just stupid. Okay so additionally they Purported to demonstrate that racial disparities in violent crime rates predicted the race of civilians killed in these fatal officer involved shootings so as the percentages at the percentage of homicides committed by black or hispanic civilians increased county so did the likelihood of the victims being shot being black or hispanic then finally third central claim was widely reported in a regression model that purported to represent the typical shooting and when i hear typical shooting i think oh so the most common shooting. Rice shootings A person fatally shot by. Police was six point six seven times less likely to be black than white. So i read this earlier right so now. We've got all of our provocative claims covered rates a claim on evidence of anti-minority bias. In these shootings if anything there may be an anti white bias Too no evidence that people shot by white officers and more likely to be minorities. And then we've got this purported evidence that violent crime rates by minorities is actually what predicts the likelihood of of the person being shot being a minority so those are three central claims right. These have been trotted out. A lot of people so just to recap so far. They looked at the super narrow claim. Can we predict whether a fatal shooting victim is white or racial minority. If we have information about the race of the officers involved and the crime rates of racial minority groups which doesn't actually have a lot of informational value. Here don't have. I wouldn't you like me. S j w black lives matter supporter to the stars woods. If you ask me like well do you think we could predict the race of a shooting victim based on the race of the cop. I'd be like no. I don't think that has anything to do with any of the claims am i. Am i crazy. You're not at all the issue that people are marching about. I don't think no. It's it's not so i i'm going to come back to the regression things in a minute because i think that the the term prediction is confusing. Your but it was designed to be like. They presented their results in this very confusing way. It was begging to be misinterpreted right And and then they conclude by implying. Strongly that like will based on these analyses. The real problem isn't racism like it's there's layers of a problems here so so let's let's come back to the the regression thing that been teasing so much. So second important. Critique of how these results were misleading is from Shinmachi and carlson as was another published response and reanalysis of the data in this in this article and its response is titled young non suicidal male victims of failure to force are thirteen times more likely to be black than white which seems to contradict the claims of the johnson paper and they start with this lake really nice clear explanation of what's actually being tested when you use these logistic regression models right. So what are you doing what are you. What are you trying to learn when you set up these models to try to predict the race of the of these victims right and their ultimate point where we're going with this. Is that the assumptions that you build into your regression models really matter in terms of the ultimate conclusions. You draw from your results these analysis so when you do regression you're essentially making point predictions based on various upsets of cases. So if i want to know whether the age of victim in a fatal officer involved shooting predicts the likelihood that that person is black or white The way that i would do that is to predict based on the observed cases in my set the probability of being black versus white for like each of the different ages. In my set right. So if you've got a significant relationship there essentially what that would mean is that you know people who are younger right or likely to be black victims of shootings that makes arrives to be black and white okay within this case. This is a hypothetical but yeah ok. Well it's kinda is but like they use this one of their variables right one of the things that the is they're actually in a relationship between like younger Interesting shouldn't that's where we're going. Yeah so if. I was doing this analysis. I i can use that regression line to estimate how likely i am if i'm a victim of one of these shootings to be black versus white okay. H twenty versus thirty five versus fifty. And so on right using my observations when you use multiple predictors in regression analysis. And that's what they did in this study like some of their models had like fifteen predictors in them. You're essentially just like expanding the way that you define line so so instead of just predicting the probability of being black versus white with age you're also predicting it with the black murder rate in the county officer rate and so on right so i'm setting all of us up thoroughly in order to say this. They created a regression model in the original paper. The johnson paper That they described as predicting the probability of black versus white victims in the typical shooting. And what that actually means is that they're plugging in like an average or middle value for each one of their predictors. In order to come up with a predicted probability of whether the victim was white or black. Does that make sense. I'm not entirely sure. I understand that. Okay all right. So i'm gonna. I'm gonna describe the typical shooting model and then see if if it does make more sense. Okay so again klay from the original that we're responding to here is that there was No evidence of anti-black or anti spanish disparities across all fatal shootings and this was based on the results of aggression model typical shooting which suggested that a person fatally shot by. Police was six point six seven times less likely to be black than white so what was not obvious. In the original paper about that specific claim that specific analysis and what shinmachi carlson made explicit and their response were the specific characteristics that were being specified in order predict that value at that in that quote unquote typical shooting all right so the typical shooting had the following characteristics. They were specifying a county. That had four times more white than black citizens so fifty percent white twelve percent black. That is typical in in the sense. That's probably representative of a lot of the country. Right yeah but also like the probability of being a white victim of a shooting is likely to go up. Yeah fortunately i've got a question. Why do you have to use a typical shooting. Don't you have all the data. can't you just use maybe. I'm not a statistician here. Now the they did they did more models right Yeah it's gonna take more time than it's worth to get into one of the models that they set out okay but but this was a. This was a claim that they highlighted. And then they made the claim that like even when we played around with all these variables. And the values of all these variables. It didn't change the ultimate conclusion. We still found that white people were more likely to get shot than black people so typical was like base rate but then they played around other things and they were like now. It didn't change the results okay. I still don't totally get why you have to use a quote unquote typical shooting. Like i feel like if you have the data set. Don't you just use the data set and then try to see what matches up like what you do I think like what you're trying to do. Regression is like sort of get a summary statistic here of like whether there's a there's an effect overall and so i think that that's the point sort of saying like in the typical shooting right in the in our database right. What i think they're they're point is like what typically is true is that white people are more likely to get shot but okay do they have any information on whether or not a typical shooting is something. That's actually likely to happen or could there data be. Here's a bunch of shootings from overwhelmingly black areas. And here's a bunch of shootings from maybe overwhelmingly white areas because we are such a segregated society and then they like average that out to be a quote unquote typical shooting. Oh sorry i misunderstood. That is exactly the point that we're making at least i think so so Yeah let me let me tell you about these characteristics and then yes. That's exactly the point. That i wanna make okay. Is that this. Typical shootings not typical. Gotcha all right. So in the in the typical shooting right quote unquote. These are the characters that had so again county had Four times more white than black citizens and that is important for regional. come back to the county had Equivalent rates of homicide per perpetrated by white black and hispanic citizens. The average age that was plugged into this regression model was thirty seven years old and it was specified that white and black victims were equally likely to have mental health. Problems be suicidal. Be armed or attack officer and so the odds ratio that was estimated for this group quote unquote typical group For being black versus white was an estimate for that group of shootings. Which i agree is probably not typical. Yeah and there's a lot of assumptions being smuggled in their eight lake the higher number of white citizens which will inflate the likelihood there will inflate the estimate that you have of how likely someone is to be white versus black all right just puncture population. The older age rate is important here because we know that young black men are most stereotypes being violent criminals. But they were portraying this in the results as though you know. This result for the typical shooting meant that in most cases whites are more likely to be shot than blacks. That's what they were sort of pitching the conclusion usually the way that you would do. This is is create an average point based on the characteristics in your data and remember this is like all of the shootings for the united states. right so this should be representative of all the shootings in the united states. At least in two thousand fifteen yeah did they only use one year. The yeah i mean this. Is this a labor intensive data set so to do this over a larger number of cases would be gotcha but yet so yeah. Usually what you do in regression is you. Would you would use the characteristics of your data set sort of center your variables on the mean right and then as you're controlling for things right. You set certain things to be at the meeting or at a middle value depending on what kind of variable you're using so they did. Yeah i think and it's it's not necessarily to do that by and large but for the specific claims that they're making right. They need to be super clear about what this means and just saying that white people are six times more likely to be the victims in in these shooting shooting dating data set than than black people. Typical shootings vastly distorts. What they're actually showing in this regression model so just to sort of underline their critique and carlson laying this out created a second model where they re specified the variables. Okay yeah and this allowed them to generate odds ratios for being black versus white in these incidents for a different subset of shootings so in this case they were predicting the likelihood of being black versus white for shootings in which the civilian is young age. Twenty the civilian is unharmed. The civilian showed no signs of mental health. Problems civilian was not. There's no evidence that civilian was trying to commit suicide by cop. That was another thing in their data. Seven and in which the county had an equal proportion of black and white citizens. Okay and that again. That's important because it sort of holds. The population is something. That's not going to be affecting okay. The prediction of the rate right Of course in johnson's original allosaurus didn't do that. Just problematic all right so in jamaican carlson's estimates using this new model. They found that the the shooting victims were thirteen times. More likely to be black than white in this other. Subset of cases. Wow yeah almost like maybe. The other model was misleading. Almost like that. Yeah so yes this is. This is the second way in which the conclusions people were. Super misleading again. This is one of the claims that was the most widely cited being really distorted sam harris quoted that specific finding specifically civically. That is specific enough. And yeah it's it's widely misinterpreted. Also right. I'm done with a study. But also i downloaded their data's at from the publisher's website because they make their data publicly available and it was nonsense. There were there were arizona. There were variables that mislabeled. I looked at their supplementary. Really data. yeah. I looked at their supplementary datasheets which had like descriptive. Statistics correlation tables and stuff. The correlation tables were were mislabeled. They it looks to me like there were problems in like the the assumptions the regression models that they are running that they did not address in the paper and so just like after looking at the stuff myself. I'm like this is just sloppy research. This is not like aside from all the conceptual problems here like. They're just they weren't being careful. And if you're if you're doing research on something that has this big of an impact. I can't think of something more irresponsible than to be this sloppy. Yeah it's a high stakes thing. Yeah and this is not. I mean this is not like okay. They're doing this for fox news or one american network like this is trying to be actual science right. Yeah maybe that's why it got retracted. I think so. I think that's I mean maybe they felt some some trepidation in the wake of this. I hope so. Oh okay so second. Study this overlapping author list. So this was cesario johnson and terrell published in two thousand nineteen so two of those offers authors. Run the other papers as well And the title was. Is there evidence of racial disparity in police use of deadly force an analysis of offer officer involved fatal shootings in two thousand fifteen in two thousand sixteen so they had really similar methods. They were actually looking at a similar data sets it was those cases that were pulled by the washington post and the guardian thanks But they looked at it across two years. Two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen and they were. They were tried to answer a very similar question but they did a few things differently so they were looking at. They were again using crime rates to benchmark here so they're trying to predict the race of victims of fatal officer. Involved shootings crime rate. Did we get. I don't even think we got to the point in the last paper. Where you 'cause like the whole point of the last paper was they don't have they don't have data on police interactions. How did they estimate that in the last paper. I don't know if we got to that question. No they didn't i so they are. They are sort of sneakily using the crime rates as a proxy for that. They're saying yes they're saying if the crime rates are higher than that's a good proxy for officer involved shootings excuse me for for interactions with police officers And that you can therefore use that to benchmark the fatalities in these shootings. I know in politics. We tried to get the second paper. But now i'm realizing there's there's quite a lot of questions i had from the first one that we didn't get him. Which is if you say okay. Let's compare you know. White people being shot versus black people being shot. And then you say well i bet there are more interactions setting aside that the fact of the matter of the interactions. Because i think that's a different thing but if you don't know that data and you say we'll let's use murder rate as a proxy. I don't really think that has much at all to do with interactions. Nope i mean a typical murder. You know like in in every okay. I'll say this in anecdotally again. But i think this is part of the day that we're talking about in every shooting police shooting. I've seen that's a viral video thing. None of those anything to do with murder. I don't know that a one of them had anything to do with well. This guy's a suspect in a murder right there's traffic stops. There's selling loose cigarettes. There's mighty use the counterfeit Twenty i can't recall a single one. Maybe there's one summer. I can't recall a single in the had anything to do with murderer. And so when and this was specifically responding. I think sam harris hughes murder rate as a proxy for like. Well if they're responsible for this percentage of the murders then there must be by. It's like okay setting aside the fact that. I do think there is more interaction with police in the black community. And that's a problem a separate problem. You can't really use murder rate to have anything to do with that. I don't think no no. You're you're exactly right. So here's how they make the case for that and this is true in both papers so we are still talking about the second paper okay. So the way they make the case for this is to say that the vast majority of fatal officer encounters happened in the context of them responding to violent crimes and they make the claim that well. It's like five percent or less die outside that context and so this has to be approximately. No they're wrong. Oh they're all right. Oh yeah there definitely wrong. You're definitely right right. I was just guessing. I'll tell you okay. I'll tell you right now. You're a careful sci-fi person. So i assume you're not just saying that based on nothing. Yeah no no. I'm not yeah. So so here's here's the here's the thing right and i'll go. I'll talk about the the ryan. Evers response here so ryan and ever responded the second paper right again. They're doing very similar things trying to predict race here. They break things up by again like the us. Crime rate is a proxy to predict the race. And they're also they do one other additional i study. Which is the they look at these analyses separately for like different types of police encounters. So they have like one cat one analysis. They do is just like all encounters in which people were fatally shot. Then they have a second analysis where they look at all encounters in which police fatally shot when the person is unarmed and not aggressing and then they have a third category. That is all encounters in which the person was shot and there was an and the reason that they were shot is because the police mistook an object that they were holding a weapon right which is an. Yeah according to them. Yeah yeah yeah so in. Each of this speaks exactly the point. You were just making right for all of those three categories of shootings though they they they benchmark it on the violent crime rates. How does that make any seven. Doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. So the ryan numbers published a response to this and they make this this claim just purely on logical grounds that again cesario data insufficient test their central claims here. So they say right that they benchmarked all benchmarked all fatal officer involved shootings using only police encounters regarding filing or using only violent crime rates. I should say right and ryan and others argued that instead right nor do a proper comparison. They either have compared all fatal officer. Involved shootings to all police encounters full stop. Yeah or fatal officer involved shootings in the perpetration of violent crimes to police. Yeah okay yeah and just not ending them all together and comparing it to violent crime or something like that. Exactly right yeah. It does and they use analogy that. I really liked to sort of just show how this is. This is a problem with the math right so they were like if you wanna determine whether there's a gender bias in nsf winners in engineering you should compare the gender ratio of nsf winners and engineering to the gender ratio of applicants with an engineering right. What you should absolutely not do. I'm still quoting is compare the gender ratio of nsf winners overall to the gender ratio of applicants only within engineering which just illustrate would show a massive anti male bias. Right because an engineering got more men than women. So you'd think that there's going to be more mail. Applicants than women. Look winters overall. That's probably going to be closer to fifty fifty in terms of men and women winning because women are better represented in other disciplines that would get. Nsf awards right so if you make that inappropriate comparison then it's gonna look like hey ten. More men than women are applying equally men and women are getting it matter discriminated against so they continue quote this incorrect approach is the method. This asarco uses in a paper. He compares all of those who shot who are shot by police to only violent criminals and so see sorry method could only be correct if and only if every person shot by police was a violent criminal which is not true right right. Yeah that's the point of making okay. I like yeah people response. It was wonderful out of ten. Yeah i know know. We're out of time. But i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna the take a minute here. Finish off the second paper so So yeah i'm gonna give you all these papers but the the response that we definitely don't have time to get to essentially takes that argument that that response that we just talked about and then they they prove it mathematically well they come up with a better analytical strategy they demonstrate in a hypothetical world in which there really is anti-black bias. Obviously it's not earth but maybe it's mars right in a hypothetical world in which there absolutely is anti-black bias. The strategy that these original authors use this asari used analyze data would not show it and actually show an anti white bias is what they claim to show. Wow so they're saying it's kind of poison from the beginning. There's no like even if even if they were right about their claims there their the way they modeled it and showed us. The results wouldn't even show us. That wouldn't show it wouldn't show it. And and then on top of that they go back to the original data set they re analyze it with the different benchmark for them. Yeah they do. They use the different benchmarking method that they have already. You know sort of showed mathematical proofs would yield unbiased estimate and they find surprise surprise. This is important. They find in there in the reanalysis. that there does seem to be disproportionately more black people killed in the types of shootings where they are unarmed and not addressing. Yeah but there is equivalency through. Doesn't seem to be racial disparity in the category where the person is addressing an armed. Okay so no racial bias there right and the reason. I think this is important right. Is it the fact that you don't get racial bias in unambiguous situations but you do get it in ambiguous situations accents. Yeah it's exactly consistent with what we know from the psychological literature about hot. How bias inter. Personally right when it's when it's unambiguous right. This person is attacking me doesn't matter whether they're black and white black or white right But if you have an ambiguous situation and just to talk about a different situation like if you're evaluating a black or white candidate for a job and the black person is clearly more qualified than the white person going to get hired but if it's ambiguous to which one is better that's where bias tends to operate if it's happening happening. Inner personally right by the way can be us. All of this data though is still according to police reports. Isn't it or it's still like self reported so it's it's take all of it with a grain of salt because the even the ambiguous or you know the unambiguous who knows what really happened there. Yes you're absolutely right about that. And that's a that's a super important point to make they're focusing on one tiny piece of it. They're doing their math wrong to being sloppy. It's bad and so was sorry. This all still the first paper or debunking. This is the second paper your. That's the second. Okay so this one. So when's this going to get retracted. Yeah we'll see. Gosh what's some of the same people. Right they should know how to retract. It should get practicing. They know which forms to fill out or whatever the heck they have to do which website to go to. Yes i mean. I think that that's a good point to go out on. You know like there are so many. There are so many other places at which there is bias in policing and we have lots of good data on that. We know that black people get sick more often. We know that they get searched more often. We know that there are all of these ways in which there is bias operating on every level and again these these researchers are just sort of pushing all that to the side and being like. Yeah but you know how many cops are a appropriate. I have so much yelling to do. I'm telling you got so much yelling to do about this. We're going to do it on a on a bonus episode where we yell at sam harrison other people making these terrible arguments in a memorial morally superior way When in fact they're actually cherry picking the data and they're not on solid footing it is. It's infuriating absolutely infuriating. So we've got to do that was wow. I think you did a great job lindsay in explaining it without the use of you get visual aids or anything. you don't get a laser pointer. You don't get slides. i thought about making powerpoint. I really appreciate you doing your best to To help us. Non science people a science. Noobs understand the trickery. That's going on here. That's so helpful. That's an excellent breakdown Hey if you see. These claims being made somewhere. Please share this. You know 'cause like it's it's it's maddening. it's everywhere. I i'm surprised i haven't heard about this before you know a good response this now. It sounds like people are issuing studies that reply to these other studies or whatever you know papers and of these papers so that's great. You could also link that but help get the word out viral that this is crap that these studies are not that these papers one of which has been retracted. The other is not on solid footing. And maybe hopefully in my opinion should be retracted. Soon to be retracted. How infuriating but Excellent breakdown lindsey. Thank you so much. And let's do some yelling on a patriot only episode. Thank you so much for listening to serious inquiries. Only if you like the show the absolute best thing you can do is support us at patriotair dot com slash serious pod. The second best thing you can do is please. Share it on social media or by word of mouth speaking of social media. Follow me on twitter at serious pot. If you'd like be facebook friends. Send me a request at facebook. Dot com slash thomas podcast. 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Goin' Deep with 'Dick Johnson Is Dead' Creator Kirsten Johnson

"Have you ever thought about how you wanna die. Weird question and one that today's podcast guest. Kirsten asked me in the middle of our interview. This interview with documentarian camera person. Filmmaker karston johnson goes places that most interviews about moviemaking. And filmmaking don't but that's because of the movie schmidt dick johnson is dead. Which is an incredible doc. If you haven't seen it available on netflix. It is about her father and about her father dying and about death in ways that go beyond the expectations because it specifically about preserving someone through cinema and what you can do with a memory or person or a moment in time or an experience how you can capture it. She asks me a lot about my own life and my own experiences with death and my own ideas about it. Which is not something that i saw coming but makes perfect sense because she's an incredible documentary filmmaker and the lesson. You might learn listening to her is. What is the hallmark of a great documentary. Filmmaker how did you become interested in the people around you in a way that leads you to great stories and also leads you to becoming a great leader or becoming a great director or becoming a great human being all of these things and more in. Today's interview with chris johnson. So much about your career. That i wanna talk about but i have to start just talking about dick. Johnson is dead and what feels like a movie. That is assaulting the idea of mortality almost or intimidating to create cinematic immortality and. I'm just fascinated by that on so many levels emotionally but psychologically spiritually what I know it's a deeply personal film. I guess. I'm just curious. Was that part of the the inspiration. This idea that you wanted to try to fight against the temporary nature of existence with cinema added lily. Absolutely like why not give it. Bri i think every one of us struggles with the concept of immortality throughout the course of our lives. And there's sort of this like who wonderful thought to like you live on in the people you have loved right but i think as someone who loves cinema. It's this wild thing of getting to meet people who are already dead through cinema and so that some of the people who have changed my life made life worth living. Were already dead when i met them for the first time right i actually Was reading in the guardian. This morning. there was this article about a an artist i had never heard of. Whose name is maggie ham wayne and she's just you know force of nature but she was quoting outta and she said i just was looking at it so good The basically are is The way the sort of the most possible way to break bread with the dead. Yeah that's i. I'm so taken with this idea. It never occurred to me that it was a way to relate to people that were already gone. You just think of like well get to know this filmmaker or i'll get to know this performer or the subject of a dock. And that just is the. They happen to be on caught on cinema. And that's how i know them. You know like you say. It never occurred to me that we could do that with the people in our lives I don't know that it occurred to anyone before you have to be on his fascinating idea. i mean i've lost people you know i think so. Many of us have lost ritual for many different reasons. Right neighbor we do or don't have religion in our lives. Certainly in the time of this pandemic we cannot gather. Many of us would say like being in a movie. Theater was our form of ritual. But this idea that we can co create with the people we love some form of ritual or some way of having conversation and the thing. That's just trippy for me with that. It has brought my mother back to me with such a force. And i'm talking. You know sort of every different level mother died in two thousand seven about timers and you to look at the way she Enters this movie like you know the movie is doing one thing until you see the footage of my mother and then you're like oh. This is kind of like beasts rising from the dead sneering as gut punch you in that moment but you know to like yesterday. I got an email from someone i knew childhood earns until for forty years and they wrote me this whole long paragraph about an afternoon they spent with my mother. And you know and that's happening to me like almost every day since i made this film so that so that it's not just like an idea that the film is bringing my mother back to life and my father like him in life. It's actually happening. It's actually to remitting relationships that had fallen away. Yeah i'm Kind of at a loss for words. When i think about it. I think i've always thought. And i think many people do cinema is a bit of a time portal You can experience another time in in. Its all its fullness You can experience other ideas and other people. But i've never thought of it as it relates to mortality at least the mortality of people who aren't cinema legends. What i mean right right legend right right. You've active into cinema in this way. I mean i had a. i had a late grandfather. Who was part of the great generation and he lived into his nineties and people in the family kept talking. Oh we should record him audio recorder interviews and i long for those things. Because we didn't do it. You know nobody got around to it but it never occurred to me that it was it was more like the idea was posterity. You know oh well. He did such in world war two such and such but the seeing your film reminded me that that there's so much more that is possible and capturing the essence not just recording. Well this is what my father was like this. I'm so glad any new. What's what's like one of the thing. So i think you bring up such interesting language for posterity right like sort of who is that four and this notion that it's too late we didn't record. I grandmother my grandfather announced too late fact. There are some people alive who knew your grandfather. There are photos of your grandfather. You have never seen like there is a way for you in this present moment to find things out about your grandfather. You didn't know and you don't know what the nature of those things will be. His death meant the end to the imagining of how he might come back to life and yet like he's here this conversation right jack jack and like when you think of jack what age do you think of him at the end. The nineties nineties s. He's nineties. He made it into his mind so he was the twentieth century I always used to say. He sought charlie chaplin movies in the theaters but he ever was pulp fiction expand for me as a cinema fan. It always felt like this man lived the twentieth century in cinema uncanny pulp fiction and john travolta coming back to life is part of version for me for spring. My mother back to life in camera person for making this film in which we resurrect right like these your time. Loops around. So like your. Your grandfather had a sense of humor. Jack had a sense of humor into. So where is it located you know. What did he need. Who are the people who remember it. You know and and just like the that you could get off of this conversation and send an email or call someone who knew jack and ask them some. You don't know about jack and like that's the thing for me that so exciting about how alive is process is because you and i and jack share a love of cinema we encountered movies at different points in our lives but we we have a language that comes from it right and and we have exactly what you're talking about this sort of experience like stepping into the portal But what. I think about that so exciting to me having made this film is like i don't know how time functions rate like i don't know where this conversation takes us. I don't know where. Jack will lead us so excited like you may get off this conversation. Make that call and come back and say jack led me to this right then you somewhere else and like that possibility was such an animating force with this movie but on a certain level what we all have to struggle with is sort of like. Why didn't we do it sooner. Or what prevented you all from recording. Jack and part of my thing is that you know we camera brings the future into the room and also brings death into the room so that to film a person in their nineties or to record a person in their nineties is to be explicit about ending death and embrace that with your father that notion obviously he does like how much more fun to fully embrace me like. We're gonna die actually going to kill you today. Then you can sort of that sort of incredibly intense high stakes. I'm afraid to have this conversation. Because i'm afraid one of us is gonna cry. You know all of that. Fear and shame that prevents us from making things with each other from asking each other questions or having conversations. And i'm not saying any of this is easy run out. We have eight year old kids and it's just like you know. What moment do you tell them about the terrible things of the world. You're constantly in this position. Like i really wanna talk about that and they also don't wanna hear certain things nevada. I know having done it with my own kids. They hear their own version or interpreted their own way. I'll know your. I can tell part of what your amazing filmmaker and it's it's apparent in this conversation because you almost in a way you turn the the lens that i'm the interview but you turn the lens at me and suddenly i felt like you. Were you start creating a narrative. The great idea of documentarian to me is somebody who can follow the story and understand that where they point the camera things change but then see what happens and then explore it. And it's like. I'm watching you do that in real time. It's will thank you for seeing me. And i am seeing you and that's what i feel like. Is this work that we do right. It's like it's these. Relationships and relationships are back and forth. Like by learning about jack. I had like i can go to new places about why cinema matters to you right and i think that you know the fact i see this red button going and twelve minutes have passed. It's like paid. Time is of essence. So let's go there. Why not go there as opposed to pretending that you don't exist and you don't have a past you bring to this conversation. I don't have a pass that i bring to this conversation. You know i'm thinking about jack. Made me think about my grandfather elmer. Johnson who is my dad's father and was serving in the military in san francisco in one thousand nine hundred eighteen. And i was just listening to a podcast about the spanish influenza. And and how basically like that. It was called the spanish influenza because no countries that were battling enrolled war. One wanted to admit that their soldiers were getting sick and i was the only one who would admit. And so this sort of thing about how things get covered up and not spoken about and denied that for me is part of the project that i'm involved in and it's like see the other person be a documentary like changed perspective acknowledged that we collectively make things together. We make them in moments in history and that also there's like sort of collective efforts to hide things it fascinating how quickly we think we matter so much. We do in the context of our moments in our people around us. But it's so fast that things become obscured and hidden and facts become warped and distorted. And i had no idea. I had no idea that that was the truth behind. Spent why it's called spanish influence because it's called that i just walked around this earth assuming it had. It was one hundred percent associated with spain and spanish nece incorrect. And how it doesn't that long for that kind of mythology to grow which changes everything changes everything. It changes everything that your role is a filmmaker again. It's that pointing the camera or being journalistic which got which certainly need more of. But it's like saying well. What is it really and then saying for all of us like see like this is what it really is illuminated. Something for us. Yeah and and i think arthur miller said like the job of artists is to reveal what has been hidden and i think that can be like you know sort of terrible things corruption and abuse and violence and racism. You've done and also it can be like sort of weird uncanny like miraculously strange connections so for example in the making of this film My father went to visit lolita hearst. Who was an old question is And when we feel after we filmed it you know we set is said to hit her children like can you send me a picture of bud. Who was her husband and with the children without knowing anything about the story line in the movie that my father was born with no toes. What do they send me. But a picture of bud who's a. It was a well respected doctor sitting at his desk with his bare feet up on his desk. And i pulled that photo out on the envelope and like started laughing hysterically. Like how is that audible. How was that operable. It's not like everybody's pictures of their father in their bare feet like and in it's just magical so there's like a magical connections that are hidden and i love. It's leg that jack love pulp fiction. You wanted jack through that. Like how fun is that an answer the delight and the humor and the absurdity is also hidden to us when we try to be so literal explaining and serious about everything right. I think you mentioned earlier. You don't you said quickly you don't understand the nature of time. We have a false sense of security. That time is works a certain way that we can manage it. A certain way and that outcomes are somewhat predictable in. It's all predicated on nothing because anything can happen. And we don't understand truly how time works or what are connections are to the past and to me things like a film like this or ruminating on people from the past or dreams about them they feel is alive in a way as they ever did in thought or in what is essentially a a flashback. You made a movie that feels kind of like a time portal or freezing something in time even in the short time since you've made it how does it feel. Does it feel like captured things about your children at that age. Does it feel like. I mean how does it feel as a human being. It's very alive. And it's i mean in some ways it's like more like more powerful than i even can understand right now. You know there was a double feature drive in that rooftop films hosted in queens in the fall and they showed Dick johnson's dead back to back with camera person. And of course my kid's facetime me while it was in the car and they're like eight years old facetime me while i'm watching them onscreen at two years old and it was too much for me as whoa because because i realized the humor that is built into dick johnson like protects against some of the trauma and pain. That is in camera person. And so i was like i was kind of like roll in with dick johnson and i slammed into camera person like like slamming into a brick wall and i was just like oh all like all of this is my life like what and sort of being transported to it going through the portals was such a powerful mashups for me that it kind of you know stopped me in my tracks. I don't think we can freeze time like i think. Cinema lake allows time to be as fluid as it is And and we built this into the process of making dick johnson. Where we edit rooms a place where you can move time around on the timeline. The idea that we could like move time around on the time line create a scene and then imagine something that could cut into that and then once that cut into that and that would give us a new idea of how to change the time line so we were just like constantly stirring the experienced and the imagined against each other. All these things are unimaginable. Like who a person becomes as dementia creeps into them. It creates an a self that was unimaginable to everyone who knew the south that existed the dementia. That's a whole other layer of this also fascinates me because we're taking jack. For example. my grandfather. I feel like the version i know is only one piece of of the whole person. You are certain person you find out when you have children or really at any point in life but you are a certain person to to those who come after you. You are a certain person to those. Come before you in the family align you don't always show all the sides right you try not to. Or maybe you think you don't but you do or maybe so many facets to how we appear in who's interpreting us That that also. I have this. Lingering question are we always the same person really like are we. Are we constantly changing and in your film. He is undergoing a change. That's traumatic to all in in his in in experiencing dementia. But i wonder you know. Sometimes you feel like you could wake up. Dan like am i new person. Did i just reboot and i just loaded up these memories and now i functioned like what is the. How much do we change ourselves. Turnover like we look back at our actions and we think who is that guy or girl just had such a like hilarious. Discussion was deepak. Chopra about this and you know he believes that doesn't this too but he believes that we are dying every moment and he meditates on death daily and the question is what is the south right and the ways in which we are transformed through time both our bodies are transformed but sort of our brains are transformed the trippie things of learning. You know when you're pregnant the cells from your fetus. Make their way into your brain. And like i am now them great. Wow so anything you know. We're sort of out that at the edges of what science tries to understand consciousness time with cinema. Have we're like get to play in the toolbox of all those things right it. We need of these pieces right. It's made the pieces that allow consciousness right. It's like images around and we experienced interational way when watching a movie and we feel things which is sort of what consciousness is right only. That was what was so fun with this. Like i mean. I can call the movie and it's definitely a movie but it was truly like an experiment like can't live forever canley rebuild him can the dementia like tone apart and we can put them back together again. Can we capture his essence. All of those are like those are very open questions for me. But obviously like i named dick johnson is dead and that is false right now but someday true jess is that why you need it. Yeah i mean you know. My dad was so cute. I like woke up in a cold sweat. When i realized that's what i wanted to name the movie and i was like a can't do that to my taste. I wouldn't and i asked him and he's like oh no it's great because then i'll have reaction formation stay alive forever and that's a demented man like. That's what's so cool about this. Whole project is to be able to have the most profound conversations with my dad despite his dementia so Dementia care facility near my brother. Bethesda and i talked to him yesterday. He's like so. I'm going to start out walking towards you tonight and i was like dad. I dunno it's cold outside. It's nighttime but i just want to get one step closer to. He says these gutted happen but like how like gorgeous and terrible is that that he's hours away from me in this dementia care facility in. He's like scheming. About how is just gonna start walking towards me. He doesn't know where i am. I wonder if there's some way in which the brands rewiring to speak emotional state not just a like beyond the logical state. I mean it's all very interesting unknown. I there's something about what you've done and what you do particularly like with this film but the way you talk about it as you said it was hard at one point. He said it's not easy. It's not easy to approach these things with one parent dealing with the things they're dealing with. I guess it does depend to some extent on the relationship. You know and you two are close or you felt comfortable or at least a little comfortable doing this but also within yourself i mean bearing your soul and your frailty and your emotions and your humanity. We often talk about you. Know we talked to young filmmakers or we hope to help young filmmakers figure out how they tell stories that will resonate right movies that will get made etc and it always comes down to this idea of personal nissen and voice. How do you access it. is it something. You've always been able to be bold enough. I mean you're doing it at a level that i don't think many are bold enough to do. I'm not certainly. How do you get to the place where you're like. I'm just gonna kill but it's like yes so you're putting on screen that so human you know i mean can i tell you it has absolutely been a long struggle and you know i think but a joyful struggle to full of pleasure passionate like quest but i you know lots of people say camera person is the first film i made which is not true but i think why people say that in some ways is because it's the first film in which i'm truly speaking with my own voice. No one could've made these films right and you know i made films about mass incarceration about racism within the justice system. I made crazy a science fiction film about a pandemic in one thousand nine seven always were attempts to make films and to find my voice. But i was. I was afraid while making them. I was pretending to know things. I was struggling and train. And it's a process. It's such a process which is sort of obvious thing to say for young filmmakers. Just till like question. What do you need when you need from this film in my case like i need my father to stay alive forever. I to make something that that allows me to never forget him. Because i have forgotten my mother the alzheimer's so brutal that it wiped out my capacity to remember how she was before it. I see the way in which this is part of the linear. This is part of that experience. That's in the needed. So clear for me like i mean. I was ashamed to be making this film. In two thousand sixteen. The current president had just been elected. There was so much. Social justice need in the world and also i had worked for twenty five years on social justice films and i i was ashamed to say i'm making film just about my own father. Like nice old white. American man like who needs. I mean that's but here's the crazy thing like and where we don't have the ability to predict it did become amazingly in step with our time so when coming and that's why i decided to make this movie not in twenty sixteen when you started this particular journey it may be felt out of step with what was happening in the world but by the time it's released oddly enough is very in step with an experience particularly dealing with saying goodbye. And it's all. I could think of not just my own. Personal is happened in the last few years but i think about all the time right now. How many people may in this country are saying goodbye. Without being able to say goodbye visit brain it's astounding beyond what i can comprehend like and and you made this film. That's this beautiful way of handling and or trying to handle that so krayzelburg. The timing is right. So maybe there's the lesson is just follow that path you know. We don't control the moment in history into which we are born. We don't control whose family were born into. We don't control. What will be the landscape when our films emerged. So why are we trying to control our movies. That was like from me. The most joyful discovery in making this film came when we were working on the heaven hell sequences and through the process of getting to them knowing that my father was advanced enough in his dementia that he was completely unpredictable. I then with the help of marine ryan who's the incredible producer and who is a very like organized future oriented deal with the details person because she respects the craft and because she was crafts craftspeople so somehow together from the two edges. Like me saying like we won't be able to know anything and her saying listen. We need to know many things in order for us respectful of the crew with this process back and forth between us and it was really like you know it was really fun and we had. We had blown it a couple of times earlier in the film. Making of like me. Like missing her deadlines are me like me but this time we got into the sweet spot where i'd be like. Tell me the last possible moment when i need to choose the core. Tell me the last possible moment. When i need to tell you how many sag actors they're going to be in this. Tell me the last possible moment. do we decide. Are we shooting heaven outside or inside. And i met all those deadlines so somehow miraculously there. We had sixty people all understand the that my father might do at any moment and yet it was lit we had all of the you know fluffy clouds were there and the halos were there and you know down to the focus. Polar didn't know what my father was going to do. So we had this whole labyrinth set and it could have all been out of focus but we were where it was like. It's a cave on focus. It might be beautiful so on focus. It was so cool because it was like doing a documentary. It's like here's the world. And all i'm trying to figure out. What do i film. It was so far it was so fun. I mean you've shot you've been you have prolific career shooting docs and you've been all around the world doing it as your films have shown. How did you had to communicate that spirit. I suppose to accrue that was not necessarily like you. See you mentioned a focus. Puller which is such a specific task. How did you imbue everybody with that. spirit like we're going to capture a moment. Whatever question. okay so one. I spoke to everyone and ask them questions. I asked them how they wish to die so georgetti which today. Wow i've not. I haven't thought about that before. I guess i wish to die. Very old Peacefully in my sleep not sick at home with plenty of people. I love still around. Is that how. Jack died pretty much pretty much at so. I'm so happy for him. It was a tough loss but he. I don't think he was happy at the time. But i think he's not generally a happy guy but i think that he was. He was ready in a lot of ways he'd lost his wife and that sent him healthwise into spiral and i think that he's still pretty healthy. He was at home. He was in his sleep and he was very sick in a lot of people in his family loved him around so a good way to go. So the next question. Like for you and your life was like. Could you die happy like that would be like maybe like. Could you add to that to the wish right. Because ray like that's such an interesting. That's what i would do with crew. People just amazing how many people have a connection to someone with dementia or have someone that they've lost someone that worrying about losing so like having those conversations and then just like just seeing people. Because i've worked as crew person long enough to understand. Some directors are so consumed by their own anxieties their own fear about not being able to control everything that they don't live the literally. Don't see you or for example. They're so consumed with their excitement about filming. They forget that they need to eat. And forget the crew needs to eat the crew. Our bodies it's amazing that you got your way. Your answer to my question is i. Try to humanize every single person there. Right and that in and find out who they are on the deepest level. I can't wins. And i don't have any. They have voices telling that that's the way it is like you make an effort to turn these people in the that's why we are honest At you don't feel humanized often right to your car your gear in some ways. You have to do so. Little like people have been so mistreated so unseen so taken for granted that simply the act of seeing them. People are appreciative of the act of being seen. And and to a point that. Like like i oversaw to give credit where credit is due like jp the cima tiger who did the lighting for the heavens stuff at a certain point. He said caja. I don't think you realize how complicated this is for chris to be doing the focus plane like given the focal lengths given. What your dad's doing given the slow motion as you're right like i had only triangulating. My dad not moving where he's supposed to. But i forgot to triangulate the slow mo plus the f. Stop and. I'm like he can't get in focused interviews like what he is and and but but it's fleeting right and i was like rats. Perfect for dementia. But then i started. I started like cheering chris after. Get a shot. And then chris like certain point just like please don't don't please don't put put so much attention to me like i. I can't focus you know. Some people are enrolls. come to a sound. Person is often notoriously a silent person. But i always love what i'm a dp on a shoot to say to the director in an interview Session would it be okay if i ask a question at the end of your interview. And then they might say. Yeah and i said and you might want ask the sound person also and sort of like invariably at the end of like you know four hour interview. It'll be the sound person at the very very end. That the killer question make rectors will forget this person even there. It's amazing or even listening right. It is the person tasked with listening most intently. We ask nothing of you know. It's like my frustration around the ways we don't see people is led me to this like thinking about stunned people and they risk their lives to be invisible in a movie in which another person who is now an actor like get seen right. It's like the most but you know my father took it to another level when michaelo comes into his office and my dad immediately saw like. Are there a lot of people who are suicidal. Like i had never taken it to that level. I was like go dead. That's a wish. Wish there Yeah there's something that's like seeing what is unseen and other people that's also a great job of a of a great documentary. Filmmaker though is like i is identifying in looking behind seeing a human being and seeing a story and seeing many stories. I think that idea of turning a film set into a place where i'm so happy i stumbled into that because i did not expect to ask a question that would lead us to talking about that but because i was just thinking well how do you help them. Make you know what is a narrative moment. when it's or a documentary slash narrative experience happening but To talk about how crews become invisible and just a piece of a machine Sort of astound. Just in the news. There is you know this release of tom. Cruise behaving a cruise. Someone didn't wear masks. Which i am very sensitive to the idea of. It's important to wear masks. But the rant made me so uncomfortable in angry because i was so triggered because i don't think it's okay to talk to people like that like i don't think it's okay to treat it that way and it makes me uncomfortable that it's ego self aggrandizing but it's also like it's it's you're just making a movie like and i think that there's a way to you know it was just you talking about seeing those people. I just think that that came from a place of them. Not being people not seeing them at all really. Yeah well i mean. It's i've experienced it as a crew member and i i'm interested in it like as a human you know we we've project so much onto other people we think we're seeing them but in fact is what people are revealing to us of what is inside of them is quite allusive and you know so. I can look into someone's eyes and the magic. I'm seeing lots of things. But often i have no idea what's going on inside there and and and you know and that's the primary relationship to my father you know like he one of the humans on this planet. I know the best but have no idea what's going on inside of his mind at all anymore with the dementia. And did i ever have any idea what's going his mind right. And so the sort of whenever like the mystery in the fun of that of trying to look and see that. I guess the to go back to your earlier question. Like how do you do you expose yourself in cinema thing you say like. I'm glad i stumbled right. You stumbled and and i. And i think that's where like i have become glad for all of my mistakes. Misspoken moments the ways in which. I fail while filming and i think the that like can we simultaneously say like words matter and and then also be gentle about making mistakes about them. So like how it that we've spent you know two hundred years saying the word slave when we should have been saying people who are enslaved rate and it is these shifts of language make you realize like how language is doing the action it is turning people into slaves literally as opposed to saying people were enslaved by other people who did that to them right and camera person for me. It's like what do i call this movie. you know. well it started with the funny thing like any day. I'm out in the streets with cameras. We'll call me a cameraman and it's like we're looking at me in. It's like hilarious now. Have still people who call camera person cameraman and you're just like how and yet the like we're taught blindness so we can only sort of like bumble our way into you know like bumble and communicate back and forth to getting at like what is this complexity of being human in each of us like you know what our ourselves. What is it death. What is time we gotta bungle into it. Because it's not. There's no string quartet in. I think the greatest wisdom at least i i believe the greatest wisdom is the accepting the more mystery than knowledge of the universe in the world. It just like you don't know like you say you don't know what's going on behind his is now and maybe you never did is just opens up so much. It makes the world if feels closer to truth to me to embrace that unknown I have really enjoyed this. It's been amazing. Maybe even enlightening. But i wanna. I wanna make sure that before we end. I wrap up asking you. You've talked about this movie. Is an experiment is experiment done. And what if you're scientist and this was an experiment. What like what are the results like. How do you measure what it's been you know so many times. We talked about a movie. Tell ongoing experiment. Like what does it mean to my relationship with my own children. What does it really mean to to. What cinema is and the relationships that we have as audience members In this moment in time where we're all engaged with questioning our own futures were all like grappling with anticipatory grief. Were all in denial about what's happening to ourselves in this moment. Like have no idea. We are in the middle of this experiment. And i don't know how long this experiment is gonna go on. You know i don't know is going to see this movie in the future. I don't know if i die before my father does. I don't know if my children are gonna kill me someday but but that's so fun to me. It's so fun. And i mean you know people say these things like an audience is continuing to make the movie with me. I really believe that like you're the way you have looked at. The film allows you to ask me questions that then pushed me to think in new ways and i push you to go bring jack back to life right and i ask you to die happy and i requested like what would it mean. What what what. How if i were to die like how what would that mean. What how could i happy. What would that be look like and to all of that happening just in the last forty six minutes which is which is insane. I mean you you know in filmmaking in the world of creating movies television docs everything. Everybody always comes back to. These ideas like story matters or character matters. And i always want to say why you're explain more like tell me more about why it matters. It always the primary thing. But i feel like in a way again to say stumbled. I feel like you've sort of hit on it. It matters because it's how we make meaning of our world is through narrative like it's how we construct the universe And the events and the experiment being ongoing like you say it's sort of like why started telling this story this way but the story is not like it it's an unfolding story may have a new chapter added when certain events that we can't predict take place and then how people view this film right or maybe somebody like you say changes. How may decide to make film because you approached telling a human story this way. Maybe there's so many places it can go. That's you also mentioned like in the editing room. You guys would chop it up and recreate a timeline. You create meaning in their. That's such a crazy idea. You create meaning out of an actual life right. Oh yes anthony. Yes like oh yes and and we can say like ok. We decided i originally set going to make this movie into my dad. Really dies for real and i didn't do that stopped. I may not be done. You know like and and that's the decision that i have ahead of me right. What do i make next what needs to be made next and you know sort of the the there are many things that are spectacular about youth many but but what is spectacular about eight gene is like the narrative threads that knit together are just like in the ways you can look back at them and look a new at them and so you know this whole experience of putting the film out into the world has just been like this. Is your life. Like i was in. Before like i'm just having rank the woodwork. People from elementary school college. You know senegal. Where i was when i was twenty one and i am getting to see visions of who i was but it's like oh i lost that relationship with that person. I haven't talked to that person thirty years to. I wanna keep talking to that person. What i think this happened on the like you know world scale with facebook for example right there mechanisms that sort of bring our lives in and out of time like this and then what do we do with that because we're all deciding like how does our life have meaning you know. How do i spend my time. Do i spend with. And i think the pandemic is also just like this cute slow pot pressure cooker of a reevaluation. What are my priorities. What is the meaning. I care the most about it. It's like were. It's like the process of making a film. It's like okay. what do i god here. I'm going to examine it. Or i'm gonna avoid examining it. I mean i think this is. This is a really spectacular historical moment to be alive in and it's in. It's not unlike the process of making a movie where it's like. You don't know when it's going to end and you feel like you're failing and you feel the anxiety and loss of it but there's also like sort of a giddy exhilaration have the unknown parts of it and also just out of your control. It's exciting to talk to you because you make it sound like whatever the future is. There's so much there's so much possibility. I think that the pandemic has also served to make people feel locked in literally but also like locked in place like we're stuck stuck here. You presented it as like a what an amazing time to witness to be alive and what comes next. And what are we going to do with it yet. Radical perspective on what matters to us and all the things that you know things that have been impossible have shifted said. Oh what what. What can that allow us to reimagine. Yeah obviously it no film school. Our community is extremely interested in cinematography. Which is your job. Be your natural fit for the world of our audience but also what gear people used to shoot on and why You've probably shot on all kinds of cameras Like i can't imagine your list of being a camera person as long as you've been You know what lead you to choose what you choose but also on this particular project. Why did you make the choice. You did so you know. The question is often asked. What cameron did you shoot. This on as if the camera itself creates the phone. And i want people to remember. You're in history. And so when i came into the history of filmmaking. Unfortunately i arrived just as shooting documentaries was on sixteen millimeter and we were starting to shoot on v. h. s. formats with lenses integrating into cameras in standard definition. And i probably not on the worst cameras in the history of cinema for about fifteen years and you are those people walk. That look now look has that look is a history that is his the technology that is available to you and this can be you know the technology of to a person who has new funds and lives in a place where there is no gear to rent. That might be a cellphone right. The technology that is available to a wealthy person in place where they can rent a phantom has a different technology available to them. So think about you have access to certain technologies because of where you are in history because of your relationship to money because of your relationship to other people and since none of us know what the future looks like none of us can imagine like oh we look back at standard def and say like ooh. That's beautiful it's none of these. Technologies are beautiful in and of themselves. They are only in combination with a human eye. And that's about to change because is can artificial intelligence will be filming beautiful things your machine you know. I think i question like i'm searching for language. Like mis cyborg while at one point. I was like. I shot all the time with a panasonic devi x one hundred and i would work and then for a while. I was a canon c. Three hundred years in years. I was a canon c three hundred and then for the first time in my life i was able to afford cannon cine lenses and i could change lenses and how these just like seeing the world to this beautiful glass instead of basically seen it through plastic right and i think of myself as sort of like intertwined with the historical moment intertwined with the technology available to me in that moment because of many factors in my relationship to how i can handle that technology i took the above. I shot this teeny tiny h one hundred could fit in the in the palm of my hand like a camera so small i couldn't even see the blimp that i was filming in the sky but i want safe. I didn't want anyone to see that. I had a camera so you. There's all kinds of reasons why people choose the cameras that they choose or cameras forced upon them by circumstances but this limits us it is only like it's a part of the way that we fumble and stumble and fail our way into expressing who we are at a moment in history so use any technology that is available to you which allows you to express who you are in that moment and what you need in that moment and i'm telling you if you really go far people are going to look back and say wow that cameras incredible. What did you shoot. That are such a good answer. I love that. It's like saying to an honest like look. Maybe you don't have a brush. Maybe you can only scratch with iraq on the side of a wall but you can still use that to tell thousands of years now your cave and freak out and say. Isn't this beautiful. that's right. So what about the dick johnson camera and the circumstances in history and time and monetarist. I was started. You know so. Much of some footage from dick johnson comes from before i knew i was making dick johnson. Yes so right. So that's the footage of my mother when she had alzheimer's which i shot on the panasonic one hundred and then shot in four three right. I'm shooting in a square rectangle and that matters in the film. You see that. That is the past right. You see that footage is different from the footage that comes after it and then in that c. Three hundred period film things with my father. My father driving in his car across the bridge. You film that not knowing that someday my father would be unsafe to put my father behind the wheel of his own car. Right and so. It's like that footage. It looks different than it is different. It's already the past and mail is by being different. Yes in in the things in this happens all the time documentary. Where film something in. You don't know what's going to disappear you know. So many of us found the world trade center in the background of shots or we see it in the background of movies. And it's like we didn't know it would disappear right and people to and now when i see that footage i mean i remember looking at footage in thinking. Oh it looks terrible. You know that good. And now when i see they just like i could cry looking at it. It's so fun to see my father. Driving the things we understand retrospectively about footage and i think about like kelly reichardt making meek's cutoff and shooting in that little square and change in our relationship to how we looked at the american west and from whose perspective were seen and so i think we use can sort of us cinema language. Do these things and when you look at the ambulance section of the film in which we were trying to think like how can we talk the audience right into really thinking. Dad really died or really took that ambulance ride well. Kirsten johnson is camera person so she knows she's we know she knows she's making a movie which he really bring her her. You know panasonic eva with her into the ambulance her heart attack. No she wouldn't do that but she would have her cell phone and then maybe she put herself on out and like but then if you know something serious happened. She wouldn't care about filming anymore. She on would have dropped on the floor and it would stay there and so we thought about all of that. We thought about the cinema language of all of that not not in terms of style or the look of it but in terms of cinema language. What would kirsten johnson do in the future. If her father was having a heart attack in an ambulance came and she was making a movie. It's amazing to think. Yeah you made the camera. The user of the camera character. A writer of the story essentially. That's great and then we created the dishes like we like hired real. Emt guys and explain to us what would happen. What wouldn't happen. And i wrote in the ambulance. Phone dropped it on the floor. That is very cool. Yeah well thank you so much again. It's like every question. Get such a thorough and fascinating answer. It's been really fun. My rainy everything. George i jack today and i would love it. If you would send me a picture of him i can do that. Yeah absolutely actually. I can say he. Yeah i can send you one when he was enrolled war to. He met mao station china. Yeah that's sort of his thing. That was his like his favorite thing about his. Take him. I think he was like overwhelmed. I think he was young. He was twenty. He'd but you know it's funny. We didn't have the kind of relationship where i would ask him. And that's that goes into the story of like. I never asked him things like that. Like what did you think now what he would have answered. He probably would have shrugged. But that's right you know but it's that was his thing. So maybe i'll find that picture and to you. I would love to see jack him together. Thanks everybody for listening this. Definitely one of the most fun interviews. I've done simply because it got into stuff that goes into the meaning of existence and how we handle and process the most challenging in central questions to our lives. If we're not doing stuff like that what are we doing. Why are we making movies. Telling stories We could do a lot of things to make money that are easier. We don't have to try and make it in this industry. Certainly it's not the easy choice and if you're interested in things like fame or money there are other things you could try making movies that answer the central questions of existence in telling stories that cover them in the way that kirsten approaches life is fascinating and worthwhile and It was a joy to have her on the show. And thank all of you for listening. the no film school podcast exists. Because you want it to so. 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