17 Burst results for "Candlebox"
"candlebox" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology
"But you don't have to be someone who lived in seattle nineties. You could read this book and really enjoy and get a sense of history. I mean this is kind of a must have for rock history aficionados. Because they feel you'll get a sense of really being there so anywhere will be back after this message to talk. Dave thomson about the grunge. Diaries are ad. Welcome dave thompson. We're gonna talk about your new book. The grunge diaries great to be. Yeah so it's it's hard to imagine you living a grunge lifestyle. Thankfully i didn't. I just happened to be in the right place at the wrong at the right time in the wrong shirt. So you didn't dress grunge but you know i didn't really suit me suit and tie boy. I think it was the right way to do this as dire. Because you're painted a vivid picture of what it was like to live in seattle with going to the clubs and was an exciting time. And you you you know you lived in london dern exciting times you know during the early glam you live. During the early punk movement. In london the seventies either stood at school relatively small Pound was my first summer out of school and it was indeed very exciting and the interesting thing was got to seattle and sort of looked around so always clubs all these bands and is i'd not seen so much activity since the late. Seventy s if everywhere you went there was a new band that you heard of some of whom were really good. Some of whom were absolutely dire but ruled out there doing it. And they're not the ones that i thought would die or other people love. So what do i know. Sometimes the dire ones turned out to be good. They after playing for a while they found like helping to die once became successful. But we won't go that there little bit in your book. I mean yes but i think candlebox really only get one mentioned. They do a bit. Yes in the beginning. In fact i. I was reading those ahead to remind myself. Oh yeah candle bosch. Yeah heh heh above them. It was a fascinating time because if you went to one club and didn't really like the atmosphere. The dj the bala tenda. You just wanted to another club and there was always something happening. There will always bans playing. Hey and as. I said a lot of them..
"candlebox" Discussed on Rock N Roll Archaeology
"It's a lot of times like something weird that i wanna do And then you know. Mcqueen is so. She's so multi-dimensional as drummer. She can do so many different things so she a lot of times takes us in a direction. We wouldn't have thought of that. Makes the song better so yeah. It's just we just follow each other's lead you guys are about to go on tour with candlebox you'll be in my neck of the woods and mid-september looking forward to that eight. How is it for you guys to finally be on a tour after being kind of in limbo for so long like many so many bands Cautiously optimistic and Seemingly exuberant. It's really weird. It's really weird. Honestly like of course we of course we can't replace that feeling that connection especially our fan base is really emotionally invested in them and care about them. A lot of kids Yeah so we're in our fan base and so it painful when we don't get to see them for a long period of time but at the same time we want everyone to be safe and healthy. So yeah i guess we're just work at but also nervous. I would say it's a tough place to be in to write for a band. Because you're you're you're so excited to move forward to release this music to have your fans here at to play for your fans to make new fans but there's like the sense of well. Is it really going to happen. Are we gonna have delays or are we gonna have postponements. I mean it's just it's gotta be very kind of thread that needle in kind of stay centered with what's happening has to be difficult. Has to be a challenge. Yeah it is very lucky that we have it. We're very lucky that we have Such a cool headlining band. That's going out with us and They are so their team is so Cautious and smart and well organized that. We're able to take our cues from them and really put a lot of faith and trust in them and their team to make the right decisions or at all as a group so in that in that regard i feel very safe and very very lucky but yeah i mean what are you gonna do if somebody on the tour. Get tobin then. The tour is not happening in a lot of a lot of cases. So you just you just pray that you just hope that people understand that the vaccine isn't necessarily about you it's about everyone and I would never force anyone to do anything. They don't think is right for and not doing vip or whatever it is that we're just falling their leading. It's gonna be great. And and i'm really excited to It's a double double edged sword. Because i'm really excited to be on stage and connecting that way and i'm really bummed out that we don't get to connect in a physical way with our fans that the merchandise table or other places. Vip where we would normally get to see everyone and everyone. We're not going to get to do that. So yeah it's a. It's a mixed bag of the most. Well the new album is girls. It's all right. The band is the dead. Dad's my guest. Today has been meta- dead singer and guitar player. Thank you very much for doing this. Podcast gosh i'm so it's so nice to be was the one. That's so knowledgeable about music. I really appreciate your questions and thanks for having me absolutely anytime you guys can come back. Yeah i love for you to get talk to the others as well so we'll have to make that arrangement. You have a great day and hopefully we'll talk soon and.
"candlebox" Discussed on Midnight Double Feature - A Film Podcast
"That's going back to why. Yeah they they said there was a push to make it more like the sixties woodstock which was interesting. How i thought i thought that was one of the most interesting aspects of that documentary. Were they pointed. Out like hey. Sixty nine wasn't perfect. You know what i mean. That was fucked. Locked up to in there was bad. Shit that happened and but we all did the peace love and music. That's kind of our. That's the historic view of that. You know what i mean but you get three hundred thousand. People had gathered. Whatever patch is going to happen on the on the on the periphery. You know what. I mean. So i thought that was one of the most poignant parts of that documentary to say like yeah. Ninety nine was mad but sixty nine perfect. You know i. I'm sorry i'm looking. I'm looking over just really quick. This is how different that these 'cause. I'm looking at ninety four. I set them looking at ninety. Four's you know the people that are playing Let me see here. Blues traveler collective soul candlebox. Sheryl crowe That's on friday. Then it's editor joe. Cocker blind. melon cypress hill rollins. Band crosby stills. Nash nine inch nails metallica. Aerosmith melissa ethridge him own bags for real. And then the next night when you got Let me see your spin. Spin-doctors bob dylan red hot chili peppers. Peter gabriel A very green a santana. The this is a very very different lineup. From what you saw a ninety nine those bands none of those bands and that in the ninety four lineup go nearly as hard as corn orland biscuit or get rock like none of those bands. A green bay. Maybe you know at the that might be the hardest that they hardest act that they had. I don't know. I don't know every every single artist on here but just from the names i read. It was like it doesn't really seem like it was just that you know you get rage against machine like those guys will burn the fucking house down. Like they're they're they're an amazing ban and oil place but just energies zach de la roca. It just has that something in him. That just like i we had a. We had a group when this my senior year. a friend of mine named odie Was in a just got a group together and they did sleep now on the fire. By reagan's machine. I don't know if you've ever heard that. But it is a fucking angry song and they perform it. And i mean we had about four twelve to thirteen hundred kids went to our school. I mean that place was like everyone i mean. It's not like people up jumping itself if people were under siege. Kinda like dude are fucking going hard and once you kind of put that out there and people connect to that. I feel like that can be another part of that powderkeg. I'm not saying the band fault. But i think again you look at the performers and they're like we wanna contemporary artists like while you fucking got him. I guess you know there's an energy that that's bill. You know what i mean. i mean. There's an energy that bob dylan puts into the crowd or there's an energy that aerosmith puts other crowd and there's an energy that rage against the machine puts in the ground or biscuit..
"candlebox" Discussed on The Bone 102.5
"Did 2 to 3 hour. So we're feeling okay. Right? He did He do that while on the road I knew was going to be out of town, and I heard him say he was in passport. Myers are around it. Yeah, he's out of town right now. Yes, um But as he intimated to the Eastern East that in a couple of weeks, she may be able to come back into the studio. Do believe we're going to be able to get guest back in May be on a limited basis. I have Peter Clifton, uh, former guitarist of Candlebox ready to come in. I chopped it up with him. A couple of years ago, we did an entire show together. And just, you know, as much as I like to talk music. I mean, you know those guys, Candlebox. I mean, they they reached they reached the pinnacle for more than a few years and certainly Were around. And rubbed shoulders and met and knew and hung out with rock bands equally as big and in many cases bigger, Uh, so that's a that's a cat with a lot of stories to tell music wise. And he's one of those dudes that has no problem telling it like it is, If he didn't like somebody back then he'll tell you today that always makes for good stories, especially we can hear about Just, you know, down in the stories from when you were down in the trenches, you know, getting to know these people who exist as celebrities to us, you know when you're on their level, and it's more of an interpersonal relationship Make no mistake, Spence. I just like hearing dirt. That's all the other personal relationship, said the the guy into corners unseen by. Just want to hear dirt on suckers. I I hate it when especially and it happens a lot. I listen to Stern and he interviews A lot. And I hated when he'll be talking to a celebrity, and he'll like they'll be talking about movies in their career, and he'll ask them, you know, tell me you talk to me about a movie, uh, of movies. Somebody that was problematic on the set or they'll they'll mention an issue there. Yes, we I had. That wasn't the greatest atmosphere because There was one person on set that gave me trouble and then they're very reticent. And sometimes even even, you know, uh, steadfast and not giving the name of that person that's like They were addicted to you. Come on Your career has your career has Yeah. Come on, man. Your career has prospered. Uh, without the association. Why do you Why? Why be reluctant To name names, if you will, Uh, you know, I would I could understand if it's a dynamic where you're you're like on a on a series and you're still working with them. I get that or I could understand if it was a situation where you worked with somebody. For Don't know, 10 years and, uh, you know you had relationships and though they were bad parts and points to it, you don't want to tarnish the good parts. By, you know, saying anything like Say I was saying I was fired from the bone tomorrow to say it was fired in the next 15 minutes. Uh, say Brennan called up the next 15 minutes. Both get out of here I've done with you. I just tuned in and realize you were on Saturday's. The show is awful. Okay? Yeah, you spent to pull the plug immediately. I'm not. And I'm not one of those people. And if your listener if you've been a longtime listener to the bone, you know that this is a situation that has happened. Uh, many times more quite a few times where an ex employee will go somewhere else and then begin to Trash other personalities on on the station. And that's that's just not my make up. That's just not my character. Even if I feel that I was my might dismissal. Was wrong or if I resign or quit because of what I felt were very valid reasons. I'm not. You're not going to hear me on another station, saying this person blah, blah, blah, and that person, blah, blah, blah. Because Trying to. I'm trying to think of what the difference is, Um Because I don't know. I And I said this to spike yesterday. Yeah, And then I tried to get him because you know, Spike goes hard in the paint on what who he terms 45 former President Donald Trump and and he was bringing him into a story that really didn't have anything to do with them, and I said to them him. I said Spike when something is gone. You have to learn to let it go. And I I think that's probably why I wouldn't. There's there's too much history there to get into, you know, trashing, you know people that I worked with for such a long time. Now, if you asked me about a guest that came in studio on my show or somebody else's show and that I had to run, and there's not that There's not that history of relationship with And it's just an anecdote. It's just the story. Absolutely, You know somebody that was there for a brief period of time and and and behaved in such an egregious manner. Uh, that any story I tell you is really not, you know, speaking out of term because it's just validating information that was already out there and then, for the most part Listeners and or other people are aware of. That's a different story, but but to bring up things that, you know nobody, um in interpersonal relationships or or dislikes that nobody's necessarily aware of, uh I I don't know if I don't know if it's in bad taste, because if somebody wrongs you and you feel like you want to, I mean, if you're just one of those people if you're blunt Um then you're looking for you're looking for justice. If you're just bringing up someone's dirty laundry, just because, Well, what I'm not saying, But I'm saying what if somebody ask you about it? Well, you worked with this person for a long time. What did you think about them? Now? There? There are people now while I tell you that I'm not that person, necessarily. I mean, you know, I was saying, Well, you know, They were all right, You know, you know, you know, I I would damn them with faint praise as um, Which is how the saying goes damning. Somebody would faint praise or damning something with faint praise more. Uh then I would just get out there. But that's not to say that I would judge somebody who who would say Well, this person this and this person that because It is. You know, if you have a relationship with someone, and they treat you like ish, um then you know that's your story to tell. It's not like you're telling their story you were you were on the receiving end of it. And if you're on the receiving end of something once you become the the receiver, said receiver then that becomes your story to tell in any manner fashion with any frequency that you want, I think sometimes especially in show business. If you're whether you're in music, you're.
"candlebox" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin
"Lister back then but you can still make money plan even though now you're kind of like a d. minus lister. I'm going with that route. Absolutely man. I mean georgia you know successful. I would argue that. If you're living playing music for your entire life that is very successful but if you have a one wonder you're going to have those same opportunities anyway. That's how i look at it seriously. Though the one hit wonder your one eight wonder. Elsie i got a buddy of mine. He's a singer in a band. called candlebox. candle box was when pearl jam and the grunge movement was happening. You know who can box these guys so so now all these years later they can still play those songs you know. They can still play far behind at festivals and make money doing it in a few albums to didn't like five albums like that. Yeah for sure but again. They weren't pearl jam but they were part of the era. I'll tell you this. Soft cell tainted love is a one hit. Wonder and i hear that all the time on a bunch of radio stations so i mean it still gets radio play. For god's sake do you think they make a living playing that one. All i mean maybe they might but i know that they're still they're still in like the zeitgeist because the song is on the air all the time still can't pay bills zeitgeist. I mean you maybe you can. Unless there's some sort of royal money crypto. i'm sure there's some sort of royalty that comes with that. I mean i'd have to guess i mean there's ascott fees. There's things like that like. I don't wanna go into the weeds on that. But anyway one more. Greg go ahead all right. Let's go with half. There's a house in montana that is worth twelve million dollars. It has garage that holds seventy cars and has its own gas station. So would you rather have your own gas station at your house or your own drive through car. Wash my car. Right now is disgusting. No amount of like windshield washer and my windshield can get through the disgust. That is all over my car. My car is gross. I wanted to be washed so badly. But if i had to choose between my own gas versus a car wash i think taking the gas. I'll wash my own car rather then having a car wash but no gas to go anywhere. I'm going gas would definitely go with the car. Wash people no rob car washes the rob gas stations. All the time you just inviting trouble i would go to. The guest is gas expensive. Man that is what you rather. Let's take a call here before we gotta go to break. Because i promised we're going to do all these calls. Yeah well this. Watch the gas station. Yeah i promise you we're gonna get to all these calls. We're going to take one more quick break. Come on and then. We're going to do all this look. Let me grab yes. I grabbed james in la james. Who believes he's very upset. The other james we started this conversation about lebron. Hey how you guys doing..
"candlebox" Discussed on The Good Problem
"Good on this podcast law and one that comes up for me when thinking about this is that at candlebox inn. Ellis mila your providing an alternative form of education for children who have either struggled in the public system or whose parents just want a vastly different experience for them but on the other hand this such a great need for alternative forms of education and not enough of it is offered and generally. It's only accessible to those. Who can afford it rather than those who might really really need it. What do you think is the answer if you were to be able to dream up the perfect situation in ensuring equitable access to alternative forms of education. Yeah certainly do a lot of work on training retraining teachers so that we are much more selective about who goes into these gigs and that would include making a mandatory starting age of twenty four twenty five. I would suggest that people aren't going straight from school to uni and back to school but they must have other experiences. Must show that. They've worked in other workplaces before i become teachers. Because i think every tribal societies to use a rather patronizing would has relied on the elders of the tribe to pass on the knowledge and the wisdom and the values. And that's a pretty sound principle. I think about if the elders of the tribe twenty two and they haven't done anything other than go to school he's week and then off to trinity college with respect to trinity but but Yeah if they've done that then it's does consuming. So i think we need teachers who also people have high intelligence and by intelligence at unjust main knowledge of book learning and then they have some wisdom not at anyone can attain perfect wisdom more complete with them but they have some understanding some insight into why things happen that they have to be abstract. Think as a noticed that Trump is still enjoying popularity. Writing in the forties in america made it just indicates that the concrete thinkers is still in very large numbers right around the world and that's very concerning because issues like global pollution and environmental damage. Less likely to be tackled by people who can't understand the long term consequences of these things in the abstract implications. That ensue from these things and this is dangerous talk because some people take offence at us but do think the swiss psychologist piaget was right in categorizing different stages of the development of the brain such this some people do become abstract..
"candlebox" Discussed on The Rhino Podcast
"Several, other major labels pass in fact, all of them every single one around which in New York with some labels in December now in November. It was a pass. There was one person in New York Steve Greenberg, who wanted to Atlantic records who call me up in November of nineteen, ninety four, and he said this is the best demo I've ever gotten I want to sign it. I went. God I've been waiting for this call. Yet right I got a call a week later. He said I can't people above me. Don't want it. They won't let me sign it. And he ended up. Leaving started his own record. Company called s curve records when he did Really Waleed. Man Saturday but that state Greenberg is the only other record executive who believed in it. It January. February of Nineteen, ninety five. We got a call Kinney hurts. WHO's in the law firm where she live I have a client name guy series working at Madonna's label. Maverick records just take a meeting with them. Atlantis and our in the studio in my studio. We said okay. Set up the minute. You say if you go there right now, you can meet with you, I through my guitar in the car, we drove to eight thousand Beverly Boulevard Maverick records. We walked in I had my guitar. We had a dat with the song perfect, two or three of the demos. We'd done first office on the right guy. You met US. He didn't have much to say. He just pointed to the Dat player, so I just went over and put the data in spur song was perfect, played for like a minute, and like I could see him sit up his chair, and at the end of the song he was in I've never had a. that's so cool. I've never thought saying like that happen. You know you should people. It was just an unvarnished positive reaction from record company executive after literally everyone hit said. Now Nio series! I get it. Will blown out of the water. We'll blown out from that moment on. I. Fortunate Change and he's oldest to label we meeting with Donna. She loved it and so with Madonna in Syria behind his we widely into the marketplace with this little sorta handmade record with a bunch of Demos. You know it had to have been the biggest signing for maverick. was there a bigger record for them? Guy Had recalled candlebox, which had done well I think they had platinum record, but that's yeah, exactly my. So when the album was released. What started things what caught fire I you remember like following it and saying Oh man I think something's happening here. K., Arlo Q.. Was the most influential. Alternative Rock Station in the world at that moment. The program director Kevin Weatherly, the most powerful program director for Rod Music Period and. Literally just got a record and loved it. It was simply someone loving record. WHO's in a position of influence so? Kevin wealthy flayed you OUGHTA now on Iraq and it literally. Play. Everything changed lift. Wow, after one play. People were pulling over on the side of the road. Phoning in who the hell is that? Because the phones went off the chart for Tehran why very first time they spun it and it never stopped. You know it came right like wildfire right from the various downbeat. At that point, there were literally no female artists on alternative radio, so it was a huge thing for Kevin. To, a female artist in the sort of male dominated. Rock music in. We shot straight to number one. You know, and then then he added. Hand in my pocket. Before you ought to. He becoming off that we didn't even think that would be our next single. It just added it in today's terminology. It was trending from the downbeat. It really was and the first little to is she did I? Remember going out to Chicago and Milwaukee I remember the show in Milwaukee was at a bar. And showed up about seven o'clock at night, and there was like a thousand people lined up around this place, waiting to get in, and we thought Oh my God. Ah Power Radio. Because, people wanted to see her. Just from hearing it, it happened very quickly. I mean the the first two shows. She played in La before the record ever came out. Had the same kind of energy and nobody knew who she was. First show was at a place on Santa. Monica Boulevard Call dragonfly. The next one was at a place called Luna Park. On Robertson, Boulevard! and. You couldn't get in the room and I just. I still never know how people trying to hurt about it. But. It was phenomenal from the very first performance she did. There was some kind of magic around it and I actually I mean we had picked the band. We found Taylor Hawkins in an audition out in the valley. Reset my God. Like as a star, okay, wait a minute. He was playing drums with Alanis would he did the first tour with her? Get outta here. It was an open casting call I saw hundred hundred guitar and Taylor Hawkins was like Holy Shit. Yeah, no kidding. Just tell guy to league because he's in the. I? Don't let them get away. Cap It. This is before it ever gone to radio, so we thought you know. We gotta go out and play some live shows. I never really seen her. Perform other than it just for the auditions. She dragonfly I'd never seen it performed live, and it was like mind blowing the amount of energy she is. She had as a rely performer. I thought Oh my God. All the years that she spent. Learning how to be a performer as is paying off at this moment, because now what she wants to do, but she actually knows how to do it the time she spent learning to be an entertainer is now informed the artist. It all came together for me. It's like Oh. Yeah, she's actually ready for this moment. Were you surprised how well it sold, even though you knew it was taking off because it became a massive massive record, I mean I. Think it would be an act of hoover's to ever think that anything you do is going to sell thirty three million records. I mean I I. Don't think that way. Yeah I mean I I've been involved on some big Michael Jackson records, but Now I just I. Just hope that people would hear it, you know. Proud of it, I was proud of her courage. I just thought she was amazing. But I had no clue. No concept that it would be now. I don't think he'd want to. Because we made the record without any record company supervision, we made the record. Without any adult supervision we take. The lesson I got out of that was like. Trusted, instinct She told me that. This album was in the top twenty on the billboard, two hundred for over a year six single six singles, each one of them went to number one in different formats female artists. That's that was. It remains unprecedented. You know yeah, because she could rock with the best seven man. It was an eye opener. You know my dear friend Steven Tyler was so enamored. Of Her. Is just couldn't believe that she could.
"candlebox" Discussed on Pantheon
"Going on and Alex Emmanuel. So the film The incoherence is a a rock and roll. Fantasy of sorts for fortysomethings each going through a midlife Malays decide. What they need to do is revive their nineties ult- rock band the coherence and prove you are never too late for a comeback. The. incoherence bands played by Alex is the Genius Guitarist Jimmy Walter. Hoffman is basis Keith Casey Clarke, Drummer Tyler and lead actor as well as the writer of the film. Jeff Hour plane lead vocalist and Rhythm Guitarist Bruce. Rounding out the cast are appearances by Kate. Arrington Annette O'Toole Amy Carlson and Margaret and Florence. I, if you like your nineties, rock in the form of say, Pearl Jam Candlebox Dinosaur Junior, you'll dig the tones the vibe there is authentic, and while none of the songs are. They'RE GONNA they're not gonna fly up the charts. They serve the film well and are the foundation in in taking this act serious. Of course. The idea of putting the band back together is always a fun trope in rock and roll fantasies, and provides the structure of the peace, and if this is going to succeed to their wildest imaginations, or maybe fall flat on its face is the fun of the pick spoiler alert. There's a twist that I. think includes with a very satisfying ending. Hey, is it weighty or serious? other than the travails of Midlife in the questioning of one's path while adulting. Of course not it's easy viewing with some bond archetypes. We all know and love from our own lives. You will recognize them. Plan as long as you're over thirty five. I'll be honest. I didn't have high hopes from the trailer but in the end I found the film just what the doctor ordered in our concert less world of covid nineteen. It may be the only rock and roll to be had at present. All, right, let let's give you the trailer and then get into the interview afterwards I. Think like me you'll find the. You'll find it on your movie night playlist. All, right, let's meet jared barrel and Alex annual from the new film. Being..
"candlebox" Discussed on The Perfect Package Podcast
"And their live. Versions of their sounds are so much better but It's A. It's not even about METALLICA. It's about a stupid stupid young people me Ninety. This would have been ninety. Four nineteen ninety. Four I was living in Oakland. California and I have family that lives in in Utah near Salt Lake City and This guy that I worked with Q. But we We used to watch beavis and butthead all of the time all the time and we were Beavis and butthead in this you know I was like maybe twenty coming up on twenty one. Maybe we would watch beavis and butthead and they did did the little commentary over music videos. My name is mud by Primus. They were playing that video and in that song. There's a line about if I had my druthers and Beavis and butthead start laughing and they're like yeah we need to get some of those then we can do stuff. That's cool and about a week later. We captured a giant spider where we were living and put it in a cup poked holes in the top and it was our pet spider and we named him druthers so we had our druthers and we would ever. We would do everything with drivers and we went on a road trip from Oakland. California to Utah to see Metallica in concert and Q. It never seen METALLICA. I don't think he'd ever heard Metallica. And it was outdoors at a ski resort and they put everybody on the hill of the ski resort and the stage was at the bottom. And it was which one of. These doesn't belong metallica suicidal tendencies and candlebox was the lineup live. I mean there are. There are decent studio band but live candle boxes. You know they're not so. And that wasn't the order. They played in suicidal tendencies actually opened up the whole show so suicidal tendencies then candlebox suicidal tendencies literally played four songs and was done then. Canto box played a full hour. And then metallica played for a good three hours but poor Q. Got SCARED DURING METALLIC. 'cause they were doing the song creeping death and here's all these people on the side of a Hill. They're trying to get a mosh pit going but people are just like rolling down the hill in the dust. Then in the middle of that here you are on the side of the mountain. Everybody just starts channing di Di di any. He's like what's happening the pregnant but yeah it was amazing. But Yeah Yeah we did this whole road trip with our druthers because we had to address so we were. GonNa GO DRIVE TO UTAH. See metallica concert and we made it from California. Acrossed Nevada made it to the border of Nevada and Utah stopped to go. Eat at a casino on the border of Utah Nevada and we left drivers in the car and it was about one hundred and twenty degrees out that day and more no so we ended up. Going to see metallica without our drivers and we were so sad but yeah we cooked druthers to death in the car but we had him for a month. Or so and yeah. We did a Goddamn road trip I think. I think we even took him to a bar. One night it's a we took him everywhere but yeah anyway. Four horsemen METALLICA. That's my pick your drill their snow so I struggled with this one because our. Here's the thing about me like an end. You would know this true degree because I make a lot of playlists in my group and I'm very particular helpless is supposed to be done like I'm a child of ninety s and so a playlist should not have repeat artists. If they do they have to be like different spots in the playlist like different sides of the cassette which a cassette tape kids is whatever fighting but it has to be you know different spying like it's it's okay. I guess if you were to like say user perfect circle and tool you know different projects like that's fine and they have to hold together and if you WanNa make a playlist for me. That's all songs that you put on there cool but if we're doing it out of my facebook group that I have to specify limits on people like look five songs or less because otherwise get twenty seven songs from one person and becomes their playlist so I can handle these rules in my head and like you know I just I hate. Yeah I those guys boy. And that's that's you but you're not like there are not going to name names but I totally could There are should be literally have added thirty songs before no okay. Here's here's how much of a Dick I am. I kicked out of using the put. It wasn't just for that like there. Were some other issues of the way. She was speaking other members but sort of the day that kicked me over the edge. I put a play list and the thing is too like I choose themes you know. It's not just give me songs. It's you know I I have one called Fuck You. And and and that was purely Explanatory or like today because my elbow hurts and I feel stupid that I fell down and so I'm looking for songs that are about pain or healing or anger you know. I'm not looking for like soothe this. I'm looking for join me in my angst right like things like that and this one woman every single time. At least one of us on she chose was by Tori Amos in one of the songs she chose is by Billy Joel both of which are excellent artists. But they don't belong on every single playlist ever so I struggle to this fourth song because I thought about like forty six and two by two. I thought about head like a hole by any snails but ultimately kept coming back to this on bleed out by Blue October Which is not their main their main hit his. Hate me but bleed out. Is this idea of like somebody's right on the brink of dying and just stay with me. You're the one who cut me anyway. So just stay with me. We'll lead up that kind of or and I have seen October God a dozen times or more live. They know me by name which is pretty funny. But it's because they so when I was in a coma in two thousand ten I was in a bad way and there was a while. We're like my blood pressure was like I don't remember the numbers who was like eighty over forty it was super low and that's not great and then my heart rate and spike like one hundred twenty minute and that combination is basically like. I'm about to coach. You know there are a couple of times. They needed resuscitation. And things like that and you know they told my husband like we've never seen anybody this sick and survived so the only thing my husband could skew was he had been back in the days of the little ipod and he would earbud and you would put one in my ear and one in his. I had recently been listening to a lot of October. So that's just put my most recent years to listen in my heart rate would slow and my blood pressure would come up a little bit and he usually to do a thing you know. And and there were a couple of moments after came out of the coma. Where like the drugs they put me on. I had me literally feeling like I was going to fall out of the bed. Even though I was very much not in so I if I listen to music it helps literally ground me figuratively ground. Me Both like I felt like okay. I can hold onto this song. I can get through the next three minutes so I gotta put jumping from over there. So we're going to bleed out for the fourth some. I'm a big Big Blue October fan. So I and you know cliche but yeah I put Hate me on on your playlist today. So you know it's it's their big one and I tend to go a little bit deeper cuts on the head workday okay. So here's a here's a terrible thing about me I'm sorry but you know there are a couple of artists blow. Tober is one justin personnel. The main singer Atlanta's Morissette is another Tori Amos is another where I like their music when they are unhappy you know and then when they when they get grounded when they get sober when they feel better in their lives unlike unlike you music anymore like I'm so sorry could used to just be unhappy to make an album and then like I want you to like delighted that you're having a better life but like like the old stuff. Could you get miserable again? Would just terrible. That's how I that's how I am with corn. No like their first two albums. I absolutely love and everything past that is just Doug Shit because they got rich and now they don't have anything to be upset about anymore burns like that and so yeah I bleed out sort of it's like the last really unhappy song you know. And then he starts to become enlightened in being a stable relationship and it's like the antithesis of country music right rake is white came back. He's dog revived. His truck. Works again like you know all of these. I'm like I don't Wanna listen to this anymore. So Yeah lead-up Blue October all right so mine. You can pick either version of pink floyd or corn but I'm going to end mine with goodbye cruel world from the wall. Nice little minute and a half long song and it's got a cool little sent Intro that would be good for the the big C of dead bodies and our hero laying amongst them As that goodbye cruel. I'm leaving you today. That whole thing hits. I think that'd be great but yet goodbye cruel world Corn did a cover of another brick in the wall. And they put that at the end of it. And it's fucking amazing with Jonathan Davis's voice at the end of it. Because you could hear that I to album pain in his voice on that one but not any other sung ever since the first two albums. Yeah I mean I get it and want him to be unhappy again. Like.
"candlebox" Discussed on The Bone 102.5
"Sing along last night with myself so I never thought I'd like the Goo Dolls I I yeah they're just another like nineties band you know collective soul Candlebox goo goo dolls they're all you know hi Terry yeah it's all the same bags of he only has one song but unless they're a day in which case they only have one song so I got invited to a friend's of music thing a couple of years ago the capital or if the roof Acker and the good also played a private show so like you know any opportunity you can you can take to see a band you've never seen in a small room I think you should take so I went and I was blown away with the stage presence of Johnny Reznik and the human troll that he has is his guitars I don't know what to do to name is but he's literally a human troll I don't mean that at soul thing I don't mean that he goes and says insulting things to people on the internet I mean that he is a troll he is if he is a physical human troll like it looks like a troll like literally the dude is a troll does he own that like he says I would like a troll well I mean they D. never got up and said I look like a troll but he doesn't have to the the man is troll like in appearance the of the long hair the kind of like stands up so as he's got kinda longish hair his features can only be described as troll like I don't I don't know another way to say this but the man that any Iraqis Grady's it just he's a he's a human troll and I walked away from that show gone tail I think I like the Goo Goo Dolls I you know when you know when you you have an associative memory with the band and it's a it's a relationship that you know was okay at the time it ended pretty poorly that's the goo goo dolls for me now I got it.
"candlebox" Discussed on The Bone 102.5
"Changed my life. Great song it is what it is. It's a great song, and so is rock and roll, but I don't ever want to hear them again. Put it that you don't ever. I don't ever wanna listen now zepplin needed to do this. I'll give you rock and roll. We don't need rock and roll song. Yeah, yeah, I know what did you want to say about the rain, so? Is the minute. It starts, I'm transported. This is Peter Clint from Candlebox. We're talking with the rain saw this is your okay. Wait, wait, wait. How let me get that. Let's go right here. The rain song zepplin got it. Okay. Let's this and let me see if it's one of my favorite by them. This is the right song. It's a long. I know that I know what I'm going to middle. Of course. Epic. I know. All right. Well, let me tell you. I'm going give you my favorite. Yes. Give you give it to be my God. I just drew a blank. Literally, I oh I got it. Got it. This is my favorite seven two right here. And one of their best songs..
"candlebox" Discussed on The Bone 102.5
"Oh. It was the twenty fifth anniversary of the debut. Correct the debut. Don't tell me don't tell me the debut was self titled. Yes. I thought so. Okay. Called is called Lucy, Lucy did that I wish that I could have I could go back and do that record again. It doesn't have you talked with, hold on. Let's go. Let's doesn't have the color that the first one did. It's got its own thing. It's dark. And I love it. It's got it sting. And it's cool. But as a Qatar player for my parts, I was not in the right place, and I should have done a lot better would've done it way different now. Are your biggest critic other people? Listen to it doesn't know this. I eat in hindsight. It should have been far behind too. But we didn't want to be, you know. Copier. So, so the so the records departure. I'm too far in the sense of the fan base. Right. They not all of them. Got it like we're talking the first one that connected with mother is in their children in like everybody. Right. The second one you really had to be a fan of the band to which. Might have been to sue, because it's real hard. How much control did you have over the direction that it went, well, you know, I was just talking to the producer Kelly great. He was in town. And we were talking about I was telling him the same thing. I wish this I wish that. And he's like, you know, we shouldn't have done it. I tried to talk to the label. It wasn't. We weren't ready. It's what it is know what it is. It's a really good demo of what it could have been should've been was he saying you have done the follow up that quickly, the shindig on yet. But obviously with the massive success of the day, the relabel probably get another one now. Yeah. And I wasn't privy to those conversations. I stayed out of that at the time, but I'm sure that, that was a big deal. Yeah, you're the big thing. There was a third kid I was five so happy pills came after that. And ninety eight satisfied with happy pill pretty good. Did you guys pull back and go towards the direction of the first album? It was from say, ninety six. Ninety eight you know our drummer had left, so we had a new drummer. Right. So that created a different vibe, right? Different producer was just kind of went back to a little more color. Okay. And all that stuff and then the band split the first time. And we are happy pill. We didn't do record until two thousand six two dozen eight which was into the, the sun and that really got back for me closer to the first record. Okay by then, you know the world not just fan. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then the last one, I did with them was love stories and other musings. And how did that fair that sales, wise people, don't so records anymore. So I don't even know. But as far as record goes, it's pretty cool. It's different. So without putting words Lucie is your least favorite Candlebox record. Yes, it's a toss up between happy pills and Lucy Lucy. And there's some gems on Lucy five. It's hard to beat you know what I mean? So hold on. Hold on. Let me doing here. It's just the mix. What, what do you think is the best song of Lucy? Spot just like that. I don't know if the best, but it has to me kind of the most more color to better mix. Okay. Dry. And it's kind of dead. I was really is a guitar player in is this love purple, the record purple. Don't apollo. Dry lean was that was my son. I wanted I like you know what I like this dryness. I think it's cool and I was into it, and, you know, I should have stuck with what Peter does not what somebody else. Influence. I liked text you. You think purple was dry? No. Okay. But it was a stripped down it like from the first two that record. It's the big sounds, and the rivers and the big drum, it was more stripped down you listen to vassal lean it's very dry drought. Ours was way too dry. Let's hear little bit understanding. The album trash..
"candlebox" Discussed on The Bone 102.5
"It, and it just constantly rings and it's got this great vibes. I know we go on a little. Hypocrites or let me to see. Knows all about. All right. Applies. He does about clo- sideways, multiple backdoor. Expert, the door de is their favorite wrote a song about it. Okay, anything I right. It's always dark tags efforts dumbs on even the last one was moody, but it had a kind of redeeming ending or climactic emotional lift, if you will see this one as fitting right along. Right. On the Alana's, Morissette said debut album or with the jagged little pill, but enough dated. I it's angry is lower faster mid tempo. This is what I pay you. Yeah. Relook at the Lear. Dick around and maybe I can find something for exactly. And this is what I would say to you, you would say, hey, listen to this, and I would go, then I would be able to go go slower or hey, why don't we? I think. I think it's a faster song than I think it's I think it's a rock salt. Okay. I think it's a faster song in temple than isn't it funny. I think it's a very aggressive Saul. So we talk like, foo fighters fast, ten n n n n kind of stuff or what a, what a female vocalist, fiddle refined natural as far as like the aggression. The coral changes would be what fits voice. I mean like the choices in the notes and the gourds. The tempo the drums. I say I'd say food fighters, I this is what example you what tempo, I'm a big fan Pete of texture. So I, I would love to have a I don't know the terminology layers layers. I wanted to drop drop and slowdown, okay? Breaks and exact. Yeah. Right. I know I have to get my button gear. Yes. City session. Sounds down right on the border base. Gulfport forty nine south eight. Yeah. I was just out there doing a comedy gig. Okay. About a month ago, city sessions, Sal. Yeah. Anybody that wants record mixed or produced do all of it. You do all, you know it's not LaLa, but it's, it's got good gear and at work. I Don mix where I first met sure. Yes. Beautiful studio. But I've seen I've seen photographs of yours yours, it's a beautiful ghetto version. I like that. Five. As right. I mean you can the look, isn't always. Darker. It's very creative. Right. You know, most studios are very bright, which they should be because I can barely see when I'm. Something, you know what I mean? But I walk in, and I'm like, you know, was that was that happenstance that you ended up with your own recording studio was that always the plan post post to arrive always mess around with it? Back in the day, I had a good setup at my house in Washington. Right. I brought all that gear down here in fact a lot of it's don's now. But I wanted to do it, it was in the band, and then once, you know, left the band and that thing I slept give it a shot. So I looked around on a place in this guy James JD. He's my partner in it. His band had been rehearsing there for like ten twelve years in there for ever, right? He's like Pete. I got this place. It's, it's set up. I think you'll like it. So I went down and I was like, whoa. It's like we're talking ten years of rehearsing alcohol cigarettes, how don't know if I can deal with this, but it had. Makeshift booth. You know it's not very soundproof, but it's there. So the by the third time it went back. I'm like our boys coming. I gotta get my stuff out of the house. Right. So I'm like, screw it. I'll do it. So he, he was really cooled out at he you know, he got a lot of the stuff out of there. And now he allowed you to make it your own. Let me come in and make it on my own space. He's it's his kids, his home away from home. That's his baby. That's where he his sanctuary, and I came in and pretty much invaded and he was always really nice about it, but it's cool. It smells good again. And. It's so funny because I I always imagined that that was in your house. That you had you had like a the garage in the N. Everything was in your home. I did not know that it was its own dedicated Bill. Yeah. There's a bunch of rehearsal spaces there, too. It's new new groove music complex in court. Got different buildings and then we have one building, and, you know, so that's Peter clip, by the way, it was been on the show. A couple of times did the guitar funny, formerly of Candlebox. Although you did you did a. The twentieth anniversary. Tony v. Fifty. Oh. It was the twenty fifth anniversary of the debut. Correct the debut. Don't tell me don't tell me the debut was self titled. Yes. I thought so..
"candlebox" Discussed on The Smoking Tire
"And he's unfortunately, the first death to come out of it from heroin. But Andrew would was the guy that everybody thought was going to be Kirk obain cobaine for would have been to probably would have been. I think they would have. I don't think mother love bone could have written smells like teen spirit. So Andrew Wood was Chris cornell's roommate they live together. So when he died, Chris Cornell. Wrote hunger strike about Andrew would. And they were running through it in rehearsal. And Chris was struggling and Eddie Vedder just drifts toward the Mike. Viola counts singing, and Chris Cornell, just wa- goosebumps talking about Chris Cornell walked away from the mic and Eddie just took over and sang that whole fucking thing standing there. That's the first time in Seattle. It's the first time that he meets those fucking wild. It's incredible really wild. I think I hear that serve in PJ twenty-five. It might have been helpful. Yeah. Our is appear twenty or twenty five twenty or I think it's twenty but there's the other the other one how fucked me I just had the most brain farting. That's funny. God damnit. But that's that that whole, you know. Oh, I remember. It was the video. They have in that film where the show Eddie getting angry for the first time. Like, he starts is this first performance line, Pearl Jam or in in Mookie Blaylock. And he starts his like hiding his face behind his hair, and you can tell he's really shy. And then like something happens in the crowd that makes him angry, and he starts doing and doing that. And that was like the first time he ever did that rally rally. Yeah. Now, he's you know, like the thing is that I very I don't like grunge because I'm not a blues guy. I don't like music that's grind Deon, grungy and made to make you feel like you're fucking heroin. But you know, Pearl Jam. Eddie Vedder was a fucking surfer guy from San Diego. So it's a completely different thing that he being brings into it. Which is you know, why he's not one of the tragic stories of grunge like when I finished the show, and I play finished the Chris Cornell Soundgarden show by playing hunger strike, and then I bring up the photos of all of the characters left. He's the only one left, and if you look at it like even down to, you know, stone temple pilots like every single character who from back to Andrew would every single one is a tragic story. And it's the only musical genre ever where the principal players of all died grunge every news. There's no like Eddie. There's no the guy from fucking Candlebox like. You know what I'm saying? Like that. Maybe the third generation photocopy grunge is still the original five riders of the apocalypse. It's the equivalent of like of if you had like, you know, if if James Metallica died, and what's his name from anthrax died and fucking what's like, all of the main thrash, all those guys survive all those guys are still gonna why because they're all. Not heroin. You can survive Bud Light barely g Edgar Meister and Bud Light. You can't make the other side cats heroine Mary of questions. Anyone wanna talk about cars tonight? We do you guys talk about cars for a little bit your, okay? I don't wanna I don't wanna I I will talk about music for. We don't have to talk about music, but. Course Zach can you pull that window an inch to the right? So I can read it because it's blocked by the camera. I didn't mean over so the audience what offi coffeemaker the first first question and some of the roasted tire, but I've never brewed coffee before. Yeah. So I may. Interesting. Aero press. Oh me. Good. Good. So do you really do, you know, you know, what else the company that makes the press makes Hilda's poison or something probably dildos? But I don't think. So the aerobics flying disc ring that same company French press or the press rush air is a French press. But better, but quicker and quicker, but it does have waste which French press doesn't because the little paper filter. Oh, it does use one tiny round piece of paper. That is totally those of us who are environmentally conscious. We do burnouts exactly. Have you gone immaterial all leaked outs? Get it's good. Yes. Getting. Question going YouTube and type aero press world championships..
"candlebox" Discussed on wellRED podcast
"Zoom saying is like I think there was law rednecks with long hair smoking, Dube's feel your Deb took it a few steps further. Yeah. He also lied beyond just that because like for like my early childhood grownup. He rent a video store Crowder's video. So he's also big movie buff. That's how I got interested in show business in the first place was just like growing up around it in that way, growing up in video store. But he also in that world, he loved like, David Lynch, and the foreign movies and all this like super again, especially for Silina's super weird shit that also I as a kid was very much like what the thought is. It's not like David Bowie and the music at Doug, even as a child, I also like fucking puff daddy, and you know, Candlebox or whatever. But but I like the music, but a lot of the the movies though, I didn't fuck and get it. You know? I have a lot to tell to ten euro. Right. I just wouldn't Mike. He would try to turn me on to some of that shit. And most of that never really took at the time. But I mean, I, you know, I mean, you know, I've been made fun of on our podcast before for like Darren Aronovski and that type of shit. So I mean it seeps in right? But yeah, it's not like at the time. I was just all about it. You know, I was critical of some of the two it's like went to fucker. What is this? Because this is exactly what I wanted to. It's interesting to imagine apparent show on a child. David lynch. It's cool. It super cool. I was I mean, there's no way I was more than twelve or thirteen when I when we watched like Mulholland Drive together. I remember that movie because I think very quickly I'm gonna look up because the reason we watched it because it had just come out. We had a store, and it was new the movie was new I rented, look it up until this brick story. Mulholland Drive from video store. My mom work. In that was run by two thousand one. So I was fifteen but I'd seen other David Lynch movies before that like with or tried to get us. Normally it wasn't like they like normally I just lost interest. You know? I'd be I'd be like what what the fuck and I'd go do something. Go play my Sega Genesis or whatever did you go to rent movies thinking did you ever like do the thing? We like there's Bubis in this one. That's what I did a mobile, Android. Maybe it wasn't Mulholland Drive. I did that with if it was a one, but I can specifically remember being in that video store just trying to find a PG thirteen or an or movie that mom would let me have does. He care about that. Did you watch our movies? And it seems like you did. Yeah. I can the first one I could remember actually don't be rattled. It was. But I mean, I had to be. I bet it in this. I mean shit my mom was in there with him. So I was like bishops age I was like seven because I got divorced when I was seven. Yeah. They were in I went to bed and they were in the living room together. Watching die hard. The first diehard. Are we off the folk up? No, it's going to die for them a charge. Keep going they were in the living room watching the first die hard. And I came to the kitchen to get the drink because I woken up to pay your whatever. And I got a drink. And I can remember like. Like hiding behind a kitchen cabinet to watch the movie in the living room. Like, they would forget that. I was there or whatever. And after you know, like five minutes, my dad was just like, oh, boy, you know, just come over here. If you want to little Cup of koolade over there set down in watch the rest of diehard with them. I mean. Yeah. Like, I said, I I was like six or seven dollars are right. A movie there's no note titties in it or whatever. But like, yeah. But he was..
"candlebox" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Kind of reminds us of a little warm weather stuff here where he's getting heckled from the outfield, and he's got his glove behind his back mocking the guy like he's talking like a I. That's pretty it's pretty funny. Also, a kid trying to learn how to talk from Google talk and little girl if you had a little girl. This would be your little girl. Four years old, and she is dealing some serious firearms. She got herself. See this one. You know, what kind of pistol the top see this is good because you must UN's five and like this, you know, he's five this year. It'll be the first year. I started teaching young staf little twenty two rifles. So that, but I got a gun. I was probably about five or six. Yeah. So it's coming this spring. I'm excited about starting off a little like twenty two why we always had BB guns, and then graduated to the twenty two and then on up the chain. Right. But he'll go. You look my God. Let me what's that one? There. We hold that one all fired up one of the big weapons. What time but? But. And of course, Rockies Metallica song of the day for my Tallec come into US Bank arena tomorrow night. Yes. This is my favorite track. The best track off of right lightning second album, which is their most thrash album. It's just dirty threat. I have never heard this song. And it really never heard this one negative. I've never big Metallica guy to be honest with you. I didn't hate them. I hang your head in. Shame. Just the thrashed of Jobe nuts, man. You drive me. Nuts. I told him I was like if we invested in college together, I've been I've been banging on his door door. What the hell is wrong with you? Turn off your Candlebox album right back there. Goud all CD get no play in this room. You're listening to my Google. Besides. Oh, man. And also we're just talking about and we're going to bring this back to because a lot of people were calling. It didn't have a lot of time for it. The coldest you've ever been. Because obviously if you'll be God bless you. If you work outside, I mean, let's get that out of the way right now, if you have to be outside tomorrow, it obviously ain't gonna tell you anything. You don't already know a Sam the coldest you've ever been. What do you have? I was gonna cross mine. And it was minus fifty below with the wind chill. And. Coming off the cards would actually lay cross bit ground because it was so cold, really. Yeah..
"candlebox" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show
"Oh, I haven't. Oh under just buried it. So. The way I kind of met the band corn. Is I was on. We did edge. What was that station? Is it written on here can ex- ex- are okay? No, that's Minneapolis. Put on the thing. Next time. Thanks because that's information. Come. Yeah. Edge was the name of their K XX when. Arthur. Yeah, they we're on love line was heavily syndicated. That was one of our -ffiliated folk. Well, if you like the, by the way, here are the band's Iggy pop corn filter ever, clear flip. I don't remember gold finger gravity kills and no doubt. So a lot of white faces out there in that audience super diverse. Floater female singers right park in Wisconsin is where this thing was big park. And there must have been O. Fifteen thousand people to sink ten thousand fifteen a huge event. And they thought it'd be good idea to bring me out from love line 'cause love line was such a big hit on their station. And so with that brought the brought me out, and they brought me out to do like stage announcements I was going to walk back and forth and bring e popout bring corn out and filter flip flip anyway, it'd be a local band I kept. And by the way, this nineteen Ninety-six. No doubt was not the biggest band on this point probably a one album at that point will the head one alma now came out and sort of sat around for like a year before it really caught fire. So. Iggy pop is written in in the bolt. We're looking at the we're looking at the flyer headliner garbage Candlebox garbage. We owe Shirley Manson. We're those. We just found this poster that were there were putting up. So okay, Candlebox garbage garbage was a crepe band. I agree. Not enough garbage played my my mind. All right. So now nirvana Butch Vig sounded so good. Oh, really? It was his like banned. Yeah. Love love and rockets. You guys read that tell me what's on there. Iggy pop filter ever clear garbage corn something kills. What is it is? It's a smoking kills grabby. Sorry, doesn't I thought? It was your doubt goldfinger flip to peace polara, Patty, petty Rothberg. Yeah. So I was there eleven rockets. You mentioned I guess I was there. And I was just going to bring they flew me out and I flew out of LAX with corn. And I just remember getting on the plane kinda going those guys must be in a rock band. Like, they look like they're in Iraq ban. I wasn't sure we didn't talk on the flight or anything like this guys are in Iraq band. And then when I got there. Every time. I went out on stage the audience and start shouting for corn. But I was bring out Candlebox wherever clear or anybody corned Obock. Yeah. Like like, they would start shouting. We will bring corn out like corn was coming out like eight banned. Yeah. That was like okay now. But I gotta bring out flip or goldfinger something. And I was I. So that kept yelling corn, and then I would gallon. And they've cool, and you know gone, and then went bring goldfinger which felt horrible for the crowd was going nuts. Yelling for corn. And then at some point. After that event. I then became sort of associated with the band because I was the one that was out on the stage yelling corn, and they were yelling corn and everyone's yelling corn. And at some point. I was travelling around with them. We're going up the bay area and mex- Patty ever find out any information on that. No. We we look at we looked at all morning. We can find anything all morning. Well, almost as you told me. Yeah. Eighteen minutes for the show. Well, I figured you do that GM. What was Jim rose? Jim rose sideshow talked about it before it was an event in the bay area. Or maybe it was like Fresno or some Sacramento or something like that. Right. And it was like a record store thing. And there was a lawsuit. But I don't remember that must have been like ninety seven or something because he'd like get out there and do like puppetry of the penis..