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Cardi B SLAMS Candace Owens After She Calls Her an 'Illiterate Rapper'
"It's blowing up right now. So this is candace owens versus Cardi B. and not just doing this to be silly I. Did they actually got into something kinda substantive here it started when. Canvas was on Ben Shapiro's Sunday special. Let's take look the clip. I completely agree with your assessment about Cardi B. It is one of the biggest insult if Black Americans are not insulted by the fact that Joe Biden who has been hiding in his basement you know for the entire year maiden appear to come up because he was going to do an interview with Cardi B.. We we have nothing better to offer. I. Mean this be tend to. Donald Trump saying I'm going to give no. Interviews, but he came up and he decided to give an interview to Justin Bieber right I mean I wish I actually just be I'm sorry. I know you are a Christian Man I. Don't want to put you in the same boat as Cardi B. but it it would be absurd white America would go what what is this why? Why are you being interviewed by Justin Bieber and it's because you're pandering right? You're pandering you look at Cardi's instagram easy. She has millions of followers and you think. Okay. This is an illiterate person, and if I if I appeal to this a person and she does a group like she literally did in the middle of this interview, they think she's cool. She's hip just by sitting here and and taking this interview walking will vote for me. It's basically saying black people you are stupid. You are dumb and you're so foolish I mean do you think what if she just said in the middle of the interview Joe Biden? Can you name one Cardi B. Album? Not Jimmy favor just one Cardi B. Lyric. He couldn't do it. Of course he's not because he's being handled and they're saying black people like this person this is what they're into, and so here you go talk to her. Okay. So Cardi, b. e. then heard what candy said and she hit back she did a couple of videos I think four videos on instagram shows on camera, but you could hear her talking in the exact quote that she said she's talking about. Canvas she says, she has an identity crisis just because she is black doesn't mean she gives a F- about blacks and you can hear also saying the candidates owns husband George. as part of a group that she like into an upper-class kkk of the UK now first off. I was at Atkinson in Georgia's wedding George a great guy they are a fantastic couple. The wedding was one of the most spectacular weddings I've ever been to and it was just filled. With love and there were black people and white people and there were straight people and gay people and there were Republicans and Democrats, it was it was a truly just a just an absolutely wonderful wedding with with a meeting of Families George comes from an upper class family in the UK. Candice comes from Philly from mostly lower middle class family and that everybody was just dancing and having a great time. So this nonsense from Cardi, B. But anyway, that's what her. Take on what candy said was, and then you know candidates. So she's not just going to sit there and take it. So campus followed up with a couple tweets and I'm going to read to you she said Malcolm X. warned us years ago about the puppetry of interviews like Cardi B. and Joe Biden, he always spoke out against the White Liberal game of using entertainers pawns. This isn't really about you Cardi B. This is about black America Waking Up to Democrat racism. She went on and another tweet to say never listened to a person that has private security but once the public police defended never listened to a millionaire that made it here in America but trashes our country. These Hollywood idols are frauds leading sheep down paths they never took when they discovered success. So so candidates makes what I think are pretty cogent salient points and Cardi B. Then jumps back in. Cardi visas well, paying taxes is something that as much as I hate, it's a reality I will always have to pay but I rather might tax money go to free education than police funding use my money on something useful your president us our tax money to fund is empty camp in ruts. So trump uses his campaign a. Uses the tax money to fund his campaign is that is that right? Well, can't jump back in and said one your tax dollars or ready to go already go to free education. Jesus. That is true to know campaign uses tax dollars for funding. That is illegal that is also true and three defunding police initiatives has led to two hundred percent increases in black men getting shot in inner cities stop supporting black people dying.
Starting Zocdoc with Oliver Kharraz
"Oliver Karaz was born and raised in Germany mostly in rural parts of the country his mother was German and his father was from Iran in came from a long line of doctors. For me, it really starts in some ways with my dad and. The timing rapidly had every reason to become a social activist and and so he came to Germany from the Middle East when he was very young around twenty with no money in his pocket no language skills. And you personally then worked on of odd jobs, but he eventually became a psychiatrist but what has really shaped me much more than being born in Berlin is. Social. Active. Isn't that I that I saw him live and that he really made our family mattress we always talked about talent responsibility and the need to use. Whatever telling behind to help those. Around us that we can make a difference. Given that your father was Iranian and your mother was was sort of. German. An Uber even though you were born in Germany, did you feel did you feel as Germany everybody else? So I didn't have a second identity. We only used spoke German at home and yet. As you say I was also a not always fully accepted. So if I give you an example, my school twelve hundred students and you could pick out to the didn't look like everyone else and I was one of them right and even an enlightened country like Germany. That is notable. So I had what I call a visual accent would people would see me on the street and they would ask me how to speak German. So well and But they also school the skipped my name when reading out scores because they weren't sure how to pronounce my last name and opportunities taken away and even at was physically threatened so i. I think that really shaping in many ways because I realized. Very early that in order to be as successful as everyone around me I would have to be dramatically better in really work much much harder than anyone else and so that used to be strong work ethic in me. For the record Oliver is somewhat down playing his work ethic. Because just out of high school, he actually started his first successful company. It was the early clunky days of the Internet, and he designed a way to help people send emails more easily and he wound up selling that business not for a ton of money, but enough to get him through medical school. But. After practicing medicine for a couple years Oliver realized he couldn't stop thinking about that first business he'd started and how he wanted to start another. So he quit his job in medicine and consulting job with Mackenzie and eventually moved to New York. That was my goal was actually to start another company that that's A. Healthcare, but I I'd also realized at the time that I sold my first company and far too cheaply in that I should learn more about business I and at McKinsey God exposure to balance sheets and panels and hit a lot of very practical experience and what it means to manage business. And I think they fondly of my time at McKinsey was one of my better decisions. McKinsey GonNa Mackenzie is a little bit like going to business school. A lot of people at McKinsey have come from business, schools. In that. Many people go to business school thinking they will find a co-founder. Did you were you actively looking around at your colleagues to think maybe I can do something with him or her you know maybe that person. Absolutely and were you just thinking about different business ideas all the time? Well, it is actually very hard to find good ideas and my definition of a good idea was that it needed to have a great mission I. wanted to make sure that we actually do something good in that. We stayed true to sort of talent breaks responsibility, but also wanted to be a large market and to have a great motor rounded and also I wanted to be based on contrarian inside. Because I thought that all of the best companies have that at its core. While she wanted mission, you wanted a company that could kind of dominate its field by building a motor around it, but was also contrary and that's that's that's those are some interesting. Criteria. And that's why I screen for several years rejected pretty much every idea that that I came across And meanwhile. While you're going through all that I guess you meet this guy Cyrus Masumi. WHO's another McKenzie consultant and and just you just. Become friends like he's like somebody like in and you guys start hanging out. While we got put on study together that required us to travel globally and you've ever done that it meant frost were sixteen eighteen hour days together for three four, five months on end and we really. Got To become great partners in that and and what we realized that we had some. Very complementary skills. Cyrus is one of the most charismatic and gregarious individuals. You'd ever meet his very passionate. He could be more forceful, which sometimes was needed to be effective with clients. And you've talked to me now for a little bit as you can probably tell. More dispassionate and logical and more measuring. German? More, German in many ways, right. also was effective with clients by by. and Cyrus is American right? He's American this but that That close listened and how we work together that really started friendship and we stayed close for the study and be caught up over lunch pretty regularly denounce different business ideas off one another and. I think we connected because we had similar interests because. On. Some levels We were equally passionate about what we're doing higher says, passion was more visible to others than mine but we. Were close enough together that we both accepted. The other as. individual that that we could learn a lot from. Was it was it clear pretty soon after you start hanging out, Sarah's that this was the guy because you were. You're on the lookout for a partner. They I think it was was absolutely an option I know reality is that. With. Both founded companies before Mckinsey and we both knew that we wanna do it again and as I. was always great about being. Very honest. Rather than just nice and and I value that a lot. Yeah. All, right. So So this guy, Cyrus Super Charismatic, really smart clearly, the two of you start to to work together. And what what kind of business ideas are are you coming up with? While we kind of fell in love with a new idea that came about a one of these launches were Cyrus. Told me about how he recently ruptured his eardrum by flying with a cold and then found it very difficult to actually find a doctor and he had asked for recommendations and called down his insurance directory listing started with the as. Doctors weren't accepting new patients some no longer accepted two centurions one provider Pasta Way and so he said, well, why does it take four days to the doctor when I'm in pain right? And why can't this much easier? And we. Both very quickly. realized the potential of this idea from. Working at project be new helps us the for actually spending millions of dollars for marketing to grow their patient base because they had wasted inventory, right they had something that I like to call hidden supply, which is these last minute cancellations no-shows reschedules. That the that go to waste, and then on the other, there are the patients who had a hard time accessing this. You thought it immediately clicked with these my God. Yes. Doctor's appointments connect patients to doctors. Yeah. Well, look if you go through the forfeiture that I had read, it's a great mission right? We're making one of the most personal needs more accessible for for patients we can help patients to get in fast we can help the doctors become more efficient. We can make the entire health care system more cost effective people out of the emergency room things like that, and it's a marketplace. So there is a strong mode and clearly anything in healthcare is a large market and I think the contrary and inside that we had. was. The fact that. Most people thought it's normal that people have to wait twenty four days to a doctor because there's a doctor shortage in read our inside was really no doctors have asthma debate ability because of these last minute cancellations, no-shows reschedules and so I felt very about this idea. So. So you member like how long between the time that the you had that first conversation To the time were both you said, let's start this business was like monster or weeks or days. was was weeks. We what we what we started doing is actually. Mocking up the side in how imagine back then in powerpoint pointing just the wire. Website. Yeah. Wire frame. Exactly. We would. We'd go into starbucks and we'll chat up strangers and say, Hey, here's a five dollar gift card. Give me your thoughts. Sorry I'm GonNa. Go back. You just go to people in starbucks Gift Card and say, can you give me your thoughts? Random Person? The absolutely that's that was sort of our market testing. They wouldn't. They would be like excuse me this is a little weird. You're my space. Might also happen from time to time but you know there's lots of people on starbucks is very in German of you. That's debris because usually he would be to report tentative about doing that. Well, you know I think there was a lot less rejection than you think people actually quite open I. Suggest you try this out but if you If you're unthreatening in Luke harmless as we probably dead and then they'll be pretty open. You went up to and starbucks and you'd say, Hey, we're thinking about a company here. Can you just look at his powerpoint give you five dollars Gift Card and what was in the powerpoint, the popcorn and was just what we thought. This website would look like and we would ask them is the set service that resonates with you would you use it and and we got an incredibly valuable feedback here and really set us in many ways on the on the right track right? So and what pointed to the two of you decide let's quit McKinsey. Let's. Let's pursue this. Probably a month or two after we initially discussed idea did anybody say you were crazy for quitting? Everyone. Everyone told us. Crazy and got a lot of negative feedback on the idea to write people would say this is Bloomberg out I would never pick my doctor on the internet or I already have a doctor or you know doctors wouldn't accept patients that that are looking on the Internet of all kinds of protections that people had when they were thinking about their own situation by. When when you talk to people and starbucks, they actually thought about it much more positively. So we were encouraged enough to say, well, this is going to work as long as we get out of our circle and don't ask McKinsey consultants doctors. The responsible be better. All right. So you are in your thirties at this point. And presumably were making pretty good cash at McKinsey because you were probably you'd know expenses you're on the road all the time so. When you quit, I'm assuming you had some money to launch the business and probably live off for a while. Yeah. So I very deliberately had never raised my living standard to the money that the paying McKinsey and I had saved every dime so that I could. No be in a position where can fund this embraced can afford not to take a salary for a couple of years. Wow. So so a couple of hundred thousand and you saved. You know. Maybe. I'm to Germany to discuss personal finances but. I had. Built this. Radio, you can tell the. Story Yeah I I had I had enough money to live off for for several years but I also Saturday night both finance the company early out of our own savings so that clearly diminish We had leftover after that. So now, you both decided to quit. and. You have some technical expertise because you had. You had done some coding but this is next level stuff. Were you able to be that technology founder and Cyrus was going to be the the sort of the business founder? Absolutely not as I add coated but at that point, I had not touched a computer for a long time We knew we need to have a technical co founder and so Sarah's knew a guy named Nick Guanzhou from the time together, trophy software, and this is another company that they would both worked at the that's the company that they're both previously worked together and Nick just brought a totally different perspective and really educated Addison me on a lot of things and and he was really the one who understood a building a seamless experience for the consumer and ends May. Zach Docs. Early Genius, did you did you have the name dock from the beginning? Not, not initially we we went to several phases on on what the right name could be for for while we wanted to have a descriptive name. So we looked at physicians, dot Com Doctors Dot Com, and we actually tracked down the owners of one of these domains and they wanted several million dollars for the domain name. And and we were finding the company ourselves. So that was out of the question. So then we just sat in a room and we brainstorm a list of fifty or one hundred names, and then started eliminating names until we arrived at Dr. What does it mean? or it doesn't mean anything which was the WTO bit we could. There were zero search results. Okay. There's no meaning behind his ACH. There's no meaning behind and and in hindsight it was precisely the right thing to do because it really was a blank slate for us to fill with with meaning and really build a brand around. Zero such as October we started. It address nate the right lake once you know that it takes more than three weeks from picking up the phone and dialing for doctors till you actually see someone you realize Oh, this really not much else that we have to wait so long for to get. And this is more important than most of these other things you already have. Fantastic access View Magin. If air travel way that healthcare workers that wouldn't be an expedia that wouldn't even be Delta Dot Com that would be individual phone numbers for every plane. Imagine. If that happened, you know a half the planes would fly empty it would be a massive pain and that was actually the state of health care before sock. Is Amazing that that the nothing like this was out there in two thousand seven. I look at I. Think. In many ways you couldn't build it a much earlier. In the early days. When we went out there, we were the ones installing Internet of the doctor's offices. We. They they were a many times just migrating from a paper books to scheduling systems. We were at the cusp of digitisation for healthcare. We were just lucky in our timing to get this right in and start offering the service when that also happened. All right. So you decide to pursue Zach dock and it's the three of you. I'm assuming really just at the beginning and were you working out of out of one of your apartments? Did you guys rent space? No, we worked out of respect for. Many. Times we came to make yet the nicest apartment and and we could bring breakfast Burrito and bake him up and you know the the reality is that we originally had a pretty ambitious launch plan right so we got together around July. We wanted to launch by December of two, thousand seven. Something interesting happened were nick send an email suggesting to look at what was then called techcrunch forty. Take is is now a household name but the draw for us back then was there was a fifty thousand dollar prize now it's called tech crunch disrupt think. So it's a major a startup competition. It's a startup competition and we were the first class of this was much less known be budgeted two hours to fill in the application in really which will send it off. He didn't think about it anymore that there was an early July and early August we've heard that we had been accepted, but there was a complication we'd have to be ready by September eighteenth or. That was three months sooner than we had originally planned to launch. So you'd have a live website by September that is right that is right with doctors with doctors, right So we actually debated for a few hours whether we should even tried to go for that but we ultimately said, yes, we can get the website working and we wanted to have enough doctors just a bars wouldn't look pathetic. Brayden. Coded Night Neither Day and nick really busted his but he did the patient facing side of the website and that was the programs. What was potentially even harder because we're tried to launch a marketplace was to actually get the initial supply on there and remember the website wasn't there yet so. Tires ended up going door to door for doctors offices. Excuse telling them a powerpoint page, and this is really a testament to cyrus sheer willing determination if you think about what it means to really start a company early on, there's nothing to show right you may be a powerpoint but there's no website there's no patience. There's no other doctors no social proof and it has to run on passion and very clear that that is Cyrus superpower. He just went to random doctors offices or he had like a list of doctors offices and he started kind of walking block by block. Well, there's a lot of walking involved a we launched in Manhattan so you can literally go down the street and you see. The signs and you walk in. And he was basically saying look, it's a way to connect you to patients. How was how many by the way? What was your objective? How many doctors do you need to sign up to have this website look okay by September Between six and ten was our goal. Okay. So just doable it is a was extremely hard really. Is telling doctors is one of the hardest things to do why were they saying? Well, first of all, it is baby very hard to even speak to a doctor they are being shielded. Their time is very valuable. Office managers are trained not to let anyone talk to them to protect the doctor from people walking in selling them stuff shirt them. Secondly, they many didn't want to give up control over their calendar which has to write. We ask them to post times that a patient could book into it and it was just a far fetched idea for many of them the patients would actually do this. So he got a lot of knows he got a lot of knows. He'd go there and he just simply not leave until he got a chance to speak to the doctor and a few times. It was even escorted out by security. I really think one in a million could have put this off. I mean was he going to particular kinds of doctors or was he generally focused on an Internet general? Practitioners Ob sobe began with dentists Okay. Because our thinking was that. People go to dentists most often, and we wanted to make sure that we have an offering that is relevant for patients as often as possible. I. Got you so so eventually unassuming, you do get what six to ten or how many did you get by September of two thousand seven Eight. In the meantime, you inequity doing the back end stuff you were doing the coding and building the website does right and as you were building it. How did it look? So. The bit that Nick Build looked awesome for the time I think. It was impressive. We were. Very. Satisfied that we had a scroll bar that we had a map that we had back then already the insurance selector and a lot of feature that. Weren't to be found really anywhere else. All right. So September two, thousand, seven, you are ready to reveal. This service at. Tech. Crunch. And Doth Review present or did did Cyrus kind of wishy the spokesperson? Cyrus. I presented Nick stayed behind in New York to make sure that the less the website was actually up and running This is in San Francisco that you went to the we flew out to San Francisco and So we lost sock talk in front of Eight, nine, hundred people. A lot of them were journalists when the judges opened up with feedback guy covers ocoee who we newnan in valued. As embezzles forever apple he came out to said he he didn't get it. He would never use this in front of everyone right and. His direct load something like honestly Oh, it just never occurred to me to go to any doctor that's really burned in in my brain and what was worse is that he seemed to be right we didn't get a single booking. We were hoping that this PR would get us out of our initial batch of users, right because your other. So many tech journalists there. So you know the publicity may be would would would lead to bookings and that was the hope but. It actually took three days before regard our first legitimate a patient, and and in the entire first month, we only got five bookings. You come back from San Francisco and. You know you had Guy Kawasaki. Say I don't I would never use this service? I'm sure he feels differently today but man maybe then Ezio said that but did did you come back feeling like like dejected like losers or or were you excited like how did you feel coming back? While you know I think we obviously hoping we would eventually get more bookings and In the beginning you probably refreshed. The Bookings Report Hundred Times a day by as we were thinking through what we realized. It was really a typical two sided marketplace challenge It's just a classic chicken and egg problem. You need the supply to get the demand and you need the demand to entice them supply and for dark was even trickier. Right when you think about it, healthcare is hyper local. Very complicated. So you have to match. Supply and demand on a Zip code specialty level, and then we have thousands of insurances take. Until we realized that our odds of actually finding a patient that wanted. An offer there. Quite low, and so the best path forward was to methodically build up supply, and so we just kept going put up a huge map of Manhattan on the wall, and then a sleep put little flags on of where the doctor's brother we're on the website in which insurance is accepted and we just we knew the perseverance. Is the name of the game. Back in just a moment how oliver and Cyrus Begin to drum up interest in stock and how they even start to raise some money at figure out how to dress differently, stay with us guy rows and you're listening to how I built this from NPR. Hey everyone. Just a quick thanks to our sponsors who helped make this podcast possible I to epic provision maker of epic bar beef was nature's idea the epic bar was. 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The deal with our personal finance tuneup series will help you feel more confident and get you on the right track listen and subscribe to NPR's Life Kit. And just a reminder, you can preorder the how I built this book right now, and if you do I'll send you a free signed book plate to go inside the book. The book is a collection of insights and wisdom from some of the most incredible and inspiring makers, inventors, builders, and dreamers on earth to preorder and to get your free signed book plate while supplies. Last, please go to Guira DOT COM or how I built this dot. com. Hey welcome back to how I built this from NPR Cairo's. So it's two, thousand, seven and Oliver. Cyrus. Nick are basically powering through with Zach dock going door to door trying to convince doctors. It's a valuable service and the thing about doctors even though they're really smart and capable and we depend on them. A lot of their offices especially back in two, thousand, seven or sort of technologically in the Stone Age. There was incredibly complicated to sink the doctors calendars with ours. Because none of the software was actually made to sink. Were even in the places where we had syncs up and running, we would frequently get. Feedback while the punishment didn't happen because the doctor wasn't available and we really couldn't figure out why this was the case because when we did screen chairs with the office to their calendar and and our calendar, it was identical right and couldn't figure out why that's happening. So I decided to sit next to the office manager I went there and got to know him and his family photos of his dog. I fixed the printer taught a better strategies to play minesweeper still couldn't figure it out. Until one day, the doctor would come out and she'd say, Hey David I'm out next Friday. And then what does David do does he go into the calendar and block out next Friday or does he take a post? It note On a doctor out next Friday and sticks this too is monitor. In the real world. These post it notes, of course happen and but once you know that Matthew Friend, you can start filtering this out and that's one example they were literally a thousand point, one percent solutions that we had to figure out to make this work. Wow. That sounds I'm getting exhausted. Just hearing about that because this is like even like Google calendars, right? Yeah. Yeah. That was that was early days and what we were extremely focused around were making show the experience was fantastic. If something went wrong, we fix it. Right. So I was our customer service I personally would call the doctor and and confirmed the appointment was all said if it wasn't I, personally contact the patient to let them know and then I would offer them. Amazon Gift Card alongside with an apology those actually one case where it didn't catch a patient in time. and. The were in the subway to the doctor, and so I raised them to the doctor's office and picked up a bouquet of flowers on the way there and met them in person to apologize. And that was really a turning point burs. The service has to work and we need to be have this patients I attitude in in terms of how it works completely ingrained in the company. All right. So you clearly need to kind of grow this Were you offering this service doctors for free at the time? Initially. We for free by we eventually started charging fifty dollars per month. But Sam doctor you come into my office and you say, Hey, if you pay me I can bring you more customers. I would be skeptical I would've said to you you who whose, who even knows about you. You'RE GONNA you're asking me to pay you money for Phantom bookings for maybe no customers I mean did some of the doctors say Many. The US summarize our sales challenge. Right? It was very hard because even if you wanted to, we couldn't easily share how many patients their competitors are down the road God like that was something that was confidential. All right. So you are you got this chicken and egg problem. Not, enough people signing up and he gets skeptical doctors but you know that the service could really benefit the doctors, but you also need them to pay for because otherwise you know but business. Meantime at a certain point I'm assuming you guys start to think we'd better go out and look for money if we're going to really make this thing work. Yeah. Yeah. That that happened in the spring of two, thousand, eight we decided we raise series. And we we make the rounds we get in front of a number of the big name, BC New York the also go to Sandhill road in impel. Toho Santo Road we leads and road initially were very successful at all we got Polite knows. and. Ray No feedback control someone took us as I told us you know what the idea seems. Good. But you're consultants I'd and the perspective of its consultants can't get anything done and what realized is that even though we had both founded companies before our Mackenzie Pedigree in our keys and button down shirts, they were really hurting us, and so we wait rank Khakis and button down shirts. It sounds crazy. Were they pleaded pants or were they at least nine pleaded please. Yeah Yeah. Yeah we after hearing that feedback We very quickly just went to the next gap and bought jeans and t-shirts and from that on the combos with VC's when but a lot better. So you went from McKinsey consultant look to this are the tech casual uniform of jeans and t-shirts that that's exactly right and we introduced ourselves not as NBA's and McKinsey Consultants but we introduce ourselves previous entrepreneurs that are starting their next company. was was anyone biting? Were there people who were like? Yeah there's a great idea I'm in. So interesting enough we had raised some money from. Friends and colleagues, and many of those they invested in US business plan unseen just based on the fact that we. Were giving up our careers at McKinsey to pursue talks. So that felt really a great. and. As we started changing how we appeared in how we introduced ourselves to venture capitalists L., we started to get offers and so in August of two thousand eight, we ended up raising five million from KHOSLA ventures expeditions mark. Wow Mark Banya Jeff bezos, and Venus is. All their. Funds are in which sounds like a lot before you WanNa do it's actually. Kinda limited because you still it seems to me in two thousand eight even though you have five million dollars a lot of money you still have this problem which is you've gotta get. Customers, and then to get customers, you need lots of doctors had lots of options but to get doctors, you need lots of customers booking through the site to you do that precisely D- These five million dollars per lily earmarked for making New, York, work, right, Miguel, I market work but. immediately after raising the money the financial crisis hit. And You may remember there was rest in peace a memo that went around about startups, right? Yes. About start ups, never being able to raise money arrested in peace good times. So we got this job is to make the money stretch in. We probably learn not during this time This was really our first go round making hard choices and what I want to be frugal and not to do things we can't afford and We learned to not let money replace critical, thinking and creativity. But now we continued to grind away at New York and at some point felt while if you want to get. To the next level we have to prove. Dr Isn't just a New York City phenomenon. Right? We had to prove that it would work in a second city But at that point, we didn't have the money to do this anymore, and by the way you're still your approach was still the same. It was door to door. That's right door to door and how how you building awareness about the about the fact Zach existed with customers with potential customers. So we it was day very difficult to get someone. To the website. Yeah but when they did. They loved it because it was such a step change from how healthcare used to work for him. Right they used to have to pick up the phone and wait on hold and then plays scheduling. tetris. With the office manager, can you do Wednesday morning about Thursday noon? Friday afternoon, and now they could do the same thing in a minute and have complete overview about the ability patients loved it and they told their friends. So we we started to get word of mouth. Going, and so we saw New York really taking up and we felt like, okay, this does this go into work in New York. At a minimum rate, but we also realized that it took us a fair bit of time. And money to get it going. In New, York and do we couldn't with the money we had left from the five million easily expanded into a new city at the same time. Raising money was going to be difficult because the next generation of investors wanted to see that it works and other cities as Walter. So we were a little bit in this catch twenty, two we ended up. Applying to. Force boost Your Business Competition Four. Forbes has his competition as sell to where they give away money right to they were promising a hundred thousand dollar prize. And at this time. We won. And Yeah what did is they gave us one of these large publishers. Clearinghouse is sex and very useful actually used to cover a hole in one in our only conference room. There was a hole in the wall and we covered it with that. At, this point you are, you are working out of an office, not not an apartment at this point we were working out of A. Shared Office space we work. Yeah. So they had given us publisher clearing house is is check but they fail to give us the small check for three months and we were getting really nervous, but it would still get it but. But ultimately, we got that one hundred thousand dollars and that's what we used to launch and our second market in DC in Washington DC and would did it require you guys to move down there or were you did you hire because I'm assuming you had to? A lot of your early capital was going into sales. Business Development hiring sales reps, is that right? Right, we had a couple of sales reps at the time. A. Very first employee ever was a sales rep is still with the company today and He was great. He figured out how to. Really charm his way. To the doctor. So there were no more security guards escorting anyone out. When did you? I'm assuming that even in two, thousand, nine, two, thousand, ten, and beyond we're not yet profitable. Far From It? Yeah. Far from it right because it's a capital intensive business. Yes. We obviously invested heavily in customer service wanted patients to have a great experience. And we had a quite sizable engineering team because that was actually a major engineering effort. So what started to happen when did you start to kind of see? A real turning point. Yeah. So we we we had launched New, York successfully with. Years. Of hardwork, we've gotten it off the ground is transported that to DC at work well, in DC, and now he said, well, why are we not in more cities and so we actually we raised serious be with fouled respond and We used to expand off the East Coast Francisco then Chicago and we just got better better at it. So we then ended up raising serious and two thousand eleven from Goldman NTSC, and we primarily use this to grow our sales team and sign up more more doctors in from two thousand eleven till two thousand, thirteen, we launched roughly thirty new cities I read that by by two thousand, fourteen would covered. Like forty percent of markets in the US, which is huge I mean that's right I mean that's a huge number of cities. And in that year evaluation. Of tzakda. Past Billion Dollars I mean that's That's pretty remarkable i. mean you were kind of on this like really rapid trajectory and you a pretty straightforward model right and you were charging doctors a flat fee every year and then. They could take all the bookings they wanted and I think that by that point like by two thousand, fourteen knew it was not cheap. It was expensive viewed really raised the price it was like three thousand dollars a year, right? Something like that. Yes recharged Dr Three thousand dollars a year and and there was a flat fee. No matter. How many bookings Actually facilitated for them and and the reality was for some doctors that got a lot of bookings that was a great deal. Yeah. But but there were also doctors that God a lot fewer bookings and for them that fixed cost was actually too expensive and some of them were starting to leave the service, and so we got into a situation that required us to invest a lot to stay where we are and then invest even more to continually grow our overall provider base, which means we had to build out a massive sales team to always sign up more doctors right and. Some point during this time L. Nick actually ran an analysis showed that it would take several years if ever fries to make our money back on on many of the doctors we signed up because you would have to sign up. X number of hundreds of thousands of doctors paying that amount every year. To make your money back to to make sort of our the cost of the sales team back. Wow and L. it. This was pure that would make us dependent on external capital for our very long time, and now it's a clearly there are many companies that have taken. Grow fast at all costs approach. And They Held onto this forty extended period of time by L., it clearly puts talking to a dependency to. Investors in their mind says, yeah. So. Meantime. You know I I from what I understand. There's disagreements I mean there there are you know the leadership team including Cyrus he he's I. Think he's he's sort of his position as the flat fee model is actually the best way to go is that a fair assessment of of his position? Yeah. I think that's right. I. Mean there were two fundamentally divergent ways held the business could go forward right. One way was to continue to work on optimizing the unit economics of our subscription model and the other way was to think about how to make it more transformative leap and then find a new more profitable. And more sustainable model and. Their. Look I can certainly understand The reluctance and taking this leap if companies rechange their underlying business model once they have a certain scale and then live to tell about it, right. We know the names of the companies that have done this net flicks, but from DVD's to streaming adobe. From box software to the cloud, but there's not a lot of companies that do that. and. Needed to make a choice which which direction I wanted to go. And and I should say over that. Became intensely personal for you because hugh and Cyrus really disagreed on on on the direction of the company should take. Steps down he he left the company and you moved into the role of CEO. Those right and what ask you about this neo. Beauty's in the flies of this show is its simplicity and we talked to one person or sometimes too. It's a single narrative, and so we don't have cyrus with us to tell us what happened but I wanna ask you about this time because. This was your co founder. This was your partner This is your friend and he was leaving the company. How did you feel at that time? I all I can say was a very hard and very emotional period for everyone involved and It was certainly a departure But how was through that given these two divergent choices you you couldn't. note, both of us could be useful to talk and. I have to imagine that for for period. China. was sort of the friendship. Look been we were very close we. Were not only friends we had worked for eight years believe together fourteen hours a day, and we probably talked more to each other than to anyone else in our lives but you know. Still touch from time to time and. I think he's joining us on from sideline. He still at prison million owner of the company Yeah, he's still. Here's the thing I mean we've we've told stories about breakups we've had we've had episodes were there were married couples who split divorced but continued the business e O products. Susan Griffin Black and an her husband Brad They continued the business stacy's pita chips continue the business after the divorce sold it for a quarter billion dollars. You guys were worth value to one point eight billion dollars at this point. was was ever party that just thought you know, God look at what we're doing on the core we're going and. I mean did you in service it down and say you know this thing is just growing and? Let's just figure this out. I think the challenge is that it's not as if there was an article way to decide what the right path forward is. As long as investors wanted to give us money growing all costs was yeah. Fine Strategy. The question was just how dependent you wanted to be on the continued goodwill of investors. It sounds like you were tired of going out raising money. You didn't want to do that anymore. Oh, not at all but I think you want to raise money from a position where you know what your turn to is and and. It wasn't clear that the business model would work in in a way that that we could just flip a switch and be profitable. Yeah. So. That was a tough year for you. Two, thousand fifteen. There was an article in business I think business insider, and it was about the sales team. It's October that year and it was. It was some allegations that you know Pete member sales team using adderall even cocaine they were under immense pressure. They were working all the time when you saw that article. And I'm not saying you even aware of any of this. You may not even aware of it but I. have to think that that article really alarmed you and and maybe even embarrassed you. Look A. There were a number of articles in two thousand fourteen fifteen. Didn't absolutely get everything, right but Budweiser I can say is that At. The time doctor had their sales team and we're. Getting very quickly and Your maybe maybe. Too focused on. L. Hitting targets and. Not. Focus enough on creating a strong culture the I hear these stories from six years ago from from time to time and from from now from candidates and and really every time. This happens like a Gut Punch. Because, this we know we're completely different company now. On on so many levels, but clearly, you saw that in new that you had to change something. While yes, I look I l there's a there's a couple of things about this. Right? We are a technology company, but we had said ourselves up too much about. Instead of writing wins and really too little about being adaptable and darning and and building the trust required to try things that now pet the risk of failure. and. So one of the first things I did is to change core values. You know to emphasize those behaviors each one of our values adaptable, not comfortable and other one is progress before perfection learners before masters right and. We only kept really one DIA CONSTANT DEL patients I. Personally that. That was more of the culture that I thought was right for Doc to succeed on many dimensions. So, you take over the company it's got high valuation, but you're still not making money and you know that you've gotta change the underlying business model you're never gonNA make money. And from what I understand this is the beginning of what you have internally described as the second founding of the company. That is right. That is right and that basically happens in in two thousand, eighteen you you launch this new business model where instead of the the dollar membership fee. Basically, you would charge doctors a lot less like two hundred or three hundred bucks, but then every booking you, you would take a cut from that booking. So like a travel agency. A little bit charge for new patient booking. So the existing patients to practice we made free but yes, there was the fundamental idea and. It sounds like such an obvious thing to do but but here's the problem with it and why why are we thought it was incredibly risky to try this. Our best customers that had been on for a long time. They got lots of pockets right and if we start charging them per bookings, their prices go up very significantly in some cases ten times more and that seemed. Competing, insane to us. In. Particular because when we talked to other companies that were at gone through similar changes and even pricing experts, they're number one advisor was make sure whatever you do never charged your best customers more and frost would be precisely. The opposite. In the thing that was counter-balancing this in our mind was well, maybe we'd be able to bring on a lot more doctors because the barrier to entry is now much lower that was there was the back and forth in the team to figure out whether that's the path we want to want to go. So, this is still a risky strategy because you're depending really on new bookings because the two hundred dollar annual fees dramatically lower and I have to imagine in year one, you actually saw drop in your revenue in the year one of of this curve. Second founding. Right. Well, it's from a risk profile worth at that. Right the warriors that you lose all your best customers in with it, all the bookings day used to be getting. and. So we needed to be ready for a very significant drop in bookings and revenue and the second Challenge was here that. The beauty of this approach modest and we got all this money upfront right and Sharon. Now to bond, we're getting paid after the booking with with a thirty day payment periods, we had a huge working capital requirement to make that happen. So did you see a drop and revenue in two thousand eighteen when you rolled this out? No we didn't because we actually didn't see the doctors leave the way that we hit on -ticipant did in fact, you know while we had very much worried that they would be upset and some of them certainly were upset. We were providing so much value to them that. You know what? What took you. So long I knew as getting a great deal all along. So that worked really well, and we had piloted in Georgia initially in April. Two thousand eighteen and then that had worked. So we we then all allowed in Colorado a few weeks later that work to, and from there we went to Washington state and again, very positive results and after these three days. Okay Great. We know this works does it out in our largest most important market? Let's go to New York and that and terribly horribly wrong. They the doctors in New York. Not only were so pissed off they actually I read. mounted a change dot org. Petition I. Don't know what to to to end this practice or something. They were really mad. They were really really mad and I guess you guys responded you said, are we won't we won't roll this out in New York for a while. Yeah look in New York. We. Facilitate Roughly, one in five new patient doctor relationship in the entire city on dock and so. The economic impact for the providers in. was much greater than for the providers in Georgia Colorado Washington. So yes, to give you one example, there's a dermatologist and so and he paid under the ultimate model ten doctor say paid thirty thousand dollars and under the new pricing model, his cost was going to go up from thirty thousand dollars to roughly three hundred, forty, thousand dollars. Wow. So what was your response to that? I? Mean it seems like a pretty reasonable. Concern. Yeah. So look after the conversation with the Dermatologists I. Actually. Put down the phone and I thought you know what? He's right. And so I pause and we regrouped and. We did a couple. Of things during this time, like the first one is we just went on a listening tour. You know we talked to provide their feedback and we just adjusted our this plan to give providers a much longer grace period to decide whether the wants to addition to the new model or not, and then. So then we read on New York six months later and and when dramatically better. So the strategy works and you see results from the strategy pretty quickly like within a year. Within a year, we had we finally at some incredible momentum was really going better than we had expected in our wildest dreams. Our existing client went down to essentially zero. I mean people still retire and and move jobs by no one really left the service and we were adding more and more providers because the barrier to entry was low and So in two thousand, nineteen we began growing profitably. It sounds like two thousand and nineteen was really the banner year. Two thousand nine hundred was a was a fantastic year and honestly we had so much momentum coming into twenty twenty and feel like, Hey, we worked really hard for three years and profitable and now the sky was the limit until. Tells Sam until March of two thousand twenty. Two Marjo twenty twenty and that's. That's really maybe the third founding DOC right? Well, I want to ask you about March twenty twenty because. Your Business is based on people booking with doctors and going to the doctor I have to imagine your revenues must have plummeted like every other industry like I mean doctors offices are still in most of the country. Slow or are trickle of patients coming in. With the lockdown started happening we saw impersonal bookings declining anywhere between fifty to ninety percent by the end of March I'm not surprised and lot of that buys I was getting was to. Lay off people and make sure that we hunker down to weather the storm but I saw an opportunity to build windmills, right so I thought well, we need to be there for our patients. We should be expanding into telehealth and I need every team member to help me do that and so we. Really went all important and supporting video visits and I'll probably June eighteen began redesigning the tire marketplace support virtual care, and so we actually released. Doctor Video Service and we made this available to. Any. Physician whether they are on soccer. for free. And by the way head, you plan to do this. How long would would I mean I'm imagining if you said in in February district I really want to focus on telehealth Would you have expected that by May would have been ready to go. Absolutely. Not I think what has been really fantastic to see is how? We really finished two years of roadmap in two months. Wow, and it's great because it's just gives us a window on what the next phase of doctor will be and really looking forward to that in my mind were the point were Amazon started from going. Books to also adding CDs. We have just gone from doing only in person to also A. Doing telehealth and I can't wait to see how this unfolds. It sounds like you. Might be reading between the lines but. You. Really, admire and respect your co-founders particularly. Cyrus and the work that he did to to build this company but I wonder if do you think that you will a I dunno, rekindle your friendship i. Is it something that is in the cards because a break is? Is Emotionally, it's hard Mesa really hard. Yeah, look I Do I think we'll work fourteen hours together again maybe not but you know I I've gotten through tougher breakups and reconciled in my past, and so I think we are we're in good shape and honestly know we are meeting were talking from time to time Yeah. We both have things to do and places to be so we're. Not, hanging out all the time. But it's now also five years ago So We are we're merch focused on making our join the baby successful. When you think about your journey and All Its happen to you how much do you think this has to do with? with luck and how much do you think it has to do with with the hard work you put in your your skills. Well I'm going look I I believe that there's really three ingredients to success. In order importance there are lock the talent, then hard work and. The only one. That's comedian. You control his how hard you work right and Now working hard to gives you more shots on goal It helps his day on the top of what you your talent allows and absolutely restarted at the right time the right place. So What what I'm proud of an all that journey has only that yet when we were wrong and when be had to revise and. When we needed the grit to actually make it work. I L we lived up to that and and that's really The all that anyone can ask themselves to. Oliver Karaz co-founder of Zach Braff by the way, remember how they originally wanted to call it physicians dot com or doctors dot. com. COULDN'T AFFORD THE MILLION DOLLAR PRICE TAG to buy the domain name. DOC DOT COM wasn't only available the price they paid for that domain name. Six Bucks. and. Thanks so much for listening to this show this week, you can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You could also write to us at H. I. T. at NPR DOT Org. If you want to send a tweet, it's at how I felt this or at Cairo's can also follow me on instagram that's at Guy Dot Roz. Our show was produced this week by Jet Anderson with music composed by Tina. Bluey. Thanks also to Julia Carney Candice Limb Neva grant and Jeff Rodgers I'm guy. Roz even listening to how I built this. This is NPR. Black voters play a crucial role for any Democrat who seeks to win the White House but some big devise amongst that block and some serious influence
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Rapper Kanye West files documents with federal electoral commission
"People have been hitting me some on Twitter at Mr Mo Kelly. Am R M o k E l L Y and some have been hitting me on instagram at Mr Mo Kelly. Saying that Hey, Mo. Because news broke today that Kanye West Air quote Filed a document with the Federal Election Commission today. Which makes the presidential campaign air quotes. Riel. And when you file your paperwork with the Federal Election Commission, you can then raise money. For your candidacy. But pay attention to the particulates in the details, and this is coming from Fox News. Fox News obtained the rapper statement of Candidacy Candidacy document which list his party affiliation, as you know. Either Republican or Democrat or Green Party. Libertarian. No enlisted as BT Y. Which stands for birthday party. And the committee's name is also listed on the document as Kanye 2020. In other words, it's a super PAC. It's not actually him and the document was filed one day after a statement of organization was submitted to the S E C with West name honor. We talked about that yesterday. Do you know how much money this presidential campaign air quotes has raised so far? $5000. Are you to suggest that if Kanye West were actually running for president He could only muster up $5000.5000 dollars. I'm quite sure they can get $5000 at a Kindle Jenner's piggy bank. They could get $5000 in the sofa at the Kardashian with household They can get $5000 just by sneezing. What you're saying that if this is an actual real campaign, they only have $5000 in this account. Don't even take my word for it. I always say, Look at the other indicators. If you were to go to Kanye West Twitter right now, and it's e why E. That is his Twitter account. You will notice that he has nothing to say about anything. He's not accommodating about politics. He's not commenting on anything going on in entertainment. He is not even really. Tweeting. He has no visible presence in a media sense at all anywhere. We could go back in speculators. Two reasons why, but it is indicative of someone who's not actually running for president. And I'm quite sure their political forces out there who would like to turn this into something to possibly siphon off votes from one or the other presidential Candice the legitimate ones. Sometimes on on General Election Day. It's not gonna happen. Maybe Kanye West gets on. Two or three states on the ballot. It's not going to impact anything, and I know people are are wishing this to be rial for whatever reasons maybe Europe Kanye West Music fan. Maybe you're just wanting for some sort of chaos. And you hopefully will have Kanye West in the midst of everything and make it difficult for either Joe Biden or President Trump. Maybe you're just rooting for that, because we live in a time where Chaos is the order of the day. Every single day. Something strange seems tto happen within our politics. And so this may be easy to root for is easy to root for the car record, the train wreck or something which you know, because it is 2020
The Limits and Possibilities of Journalism
"There's a convention in the world fiction known as the unreliable narrator, a character whose very much part of the story they're telling, and therefore, whose account cannot always be taken at face value because we know, they have interests at stake. It's a concept. One could fruitfully apply to journalism where interests and stakes like gender race, diginity or colonialism are rarely, if ever apparent and the reporting of news be that to audiences are even to reporters themselves. Would making those things explicit? Therefore make journalism unreliable given its long-standing complicity with the dominant social order. Maybe the better question to ask is how journalism can best grapple with its innate limitations. And yet as we see in the subtitle of Collison in Young's book, the possibilities of journalism also abound alternatives they argue have been largely generated outside the walls of mainstream outlets. Candice in Maryland. Thanks for sticking around for part two of this conversation. Amtrak at the pleasure to be here. Thanks for having us. Yeah, thanks for having us. Yeah, yeah, well. Thanks for indulging me here in having this extended conversation. I do WanNa get to what can be done to repair remediate reform. Rehabilitate retrofit I. Don't know I don't know what the right word is. You'll tell me, but I still have some other questions to get into and as you know candice I'm want to ask odd questions, and so why stop now so? Let me, ask you. Candice is racism fact. Or Not An I'll tell you why ask because every time I. See it. It's slapped inside quotation marks whenever it's reported on as if it was opinion, not fact. Is Racism factor not and if it's treated as if it isn't how telling, is that on the part of those who do so and such an interesting question points observation about journalism. That e racism ends up being a claim that make as opposed to an observable experience documented. You know with much precision increasingly over the last you know I don't know century. Really it, but it comes back to you know. We talked a little bit about the National Geographic. Apology right they needed a historian to go through all of their coverage and say actually was racist. At documented. Analytical opinion from somebody who had gone through gone through all of their reporting. When in fact, right? I mean one of the interesting points. They actually make in the story that they do on themselves. Is that at time when they were reporting on the crowning of a King Ethiopia? Black. Men and women in the United States could not actually get into a an a lecture at national. Geographic place because everything was segregated still at that time right so. You know it's the same thing with objectivity. If you think about the way that the history of journalism has been told, we talk about the rise of objectivity, and how it emerged in the nineteen twenties, we'll in the nineteen twenties who had the vote who was able to fully participate in democracy? When you start asking those kinds of questions, it becomes untenable that the way that journalism has perceived itself as recording a story that gets better over time when you know the experience of many minority, visible minority populations marginalized populations. Indigenous populations have. Definitely had a really uneven experience with democracy with colonialism, and you know, have often suffered, and not have their stories told in anything like mainstream news, in fact, in most cases at least when it comes to indigenous people. We've had to start our own. Our own media right? If you look at the way that media has evolved e- you see the way that indigenous people have taken it up at every single turn including when it came to to digital media
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Nashville: Vanderbilt AD Malcolm Turner resigns; Candice Lee to be interim
"Couple of days ago. We heard the news from Nashville. The now come. Turner was moving on and Candice Story. Leave was taking his place as the interim athletic director and we're delighted to welcome to the program in her first interview with us. I can't thank you and I know difficult time but you certainly have to take on the responsibility. You certainly have had an exemplary record. As a former player and captain and obviously as a top assistant in that athletic department. Thanks for being here and Great to have you on. Thank you so much. I'm I'm glad to be here. Thank you very much. So let me ask you. You're basically In operating position in this Athletic Department of key a key role and this happens and you are tasked now with with with being in charge. I know you're prepared for it but it's still had to. How did it feel to suddenly be handed the keys to the store so to speak? Well certainly It was unexpected but when presented with the opportunity. I was excited to step up and serve in this way. You know. I think we all are student. Athletes all the time that they have to be ready. Expect the unexpected and be Nimble and be flexible so it gave me an opportunity to demonstrate that I know having experienced the student athlete Role at vanderbilt playing such a prominent role there and then being in this athletic department for so long For the most part under David Williams leadership You learned a great deal that That would help you be prepared for this day. But but what do you lean on? Because it's a tough role not that there's anyone that doesn't think you're capable of it but it's it's a little bit lonelier of at the top isn't it now. I understand exactly what you're saying and David. I had the the opportunity to learn under him for several years and Had the opportunity to work with Malcolm and and just have built up very fortunate enough to have built up a great network across campus and this conference but also across the country Have have relied on that pretty heavily even prior to getting into this position. But certainly now understand that. I've got great resources at my disposal and I'm I'm not afraid to tell rely on folks and lean on people and just Do everything I can to be prepared for this challenge and I guess I would rather call it an opportunity rather than a challenge but I do know it's a big job and I've got great resources at my disposal. Kansas I'm talk show host. I don't know all the machinations of how schools operate in terms of Interim Your interim assistant chancellor as well as athletics director Where are we going to forget me? Where are you right now? In terms of the process for when this job changes from interim to to permanent at this point I can tell you. I am just focused on doing the job. It's not ultimately up to me What will happen with that interim title? I think that the part that I can control is just showing that as an athletics department and as a university we're moving forward and I'm happy to be at the helm and do everything. I can to support our staff. Our student athletes are coaches and and be what Commodore Nation expects us to be. But it's a great question. I know I understand why you're asking. I just know that I have to control what I can control. I think you could also I guess my next question. Because in in the press release it talked about the significance of your higher As the first African American and I I know we live in a world when when when that is not made as big of a deal as it used to be. Thank goodness but it's still part of The description and the school put it out. We didn't we didn't say it. They did Your reaction to that. I'm humbled I'm humbled by Just their reaction. The divers see from so many people who you know in some ways. It's unfortunate that we're still talking about the first and I Kind of to your point. But I've said this before and I will continue to say it. There's not a lack of talented people out there whether we're talking about women or men or people of color it's just been a lack of opportunity and so if if if this by just being in this interim role even provide more access and more opportunity for people who know are qualified and. I'm very thankful to be a part of that. You don't want to ask you about about that part of it Because I'm struggling to to be frank about asking this in terms of being the first woman because it. It is fairly shocking. And I know you. You're living and I'm just describing in twenty twenty to have that description and I'll just my wife who happens to be a vanderbilt person. I hear every day so if it had been if it had been a woman You know what I'm talking about there and talk about that responsibility because I know when you are the first you represent a lot of people who probably should have been there earlier but didn't give that didn't get that opportunity. Yeah I consider it a very big responsibility and I it's a privilege to sit in the role but with the role with the privilege comes great responsibility and and I think that again until we start talking about. So it's it's certainly wonderful to be the first but until you start talking about the second and the third and the fourth and the fifth. It's just it's just clear we have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. But you know I think that I feel humbled and honored to be in the space but I just WanNa do a great job so that people understand again. It is not the lack of people who are prepared to excel. It's just the lack of opportunity. Well let's get all the All the titles out of the way and talk about what we're going to do which is which is the reason why you're in this position and I think we're we're all interested in. I realize you're you're just you're just moving into it but but we we'd all like to hear about your thoughts and plans and visions as much as you've been able to put them together. Sure sure as much as I can put them together on in nine days. I I would say that you know. We've we've been really clear that we're not pushing the pause button and we had some great momentum coming into this academic year and even into this semester and that is continuing so our most immediate focus is on our strategic plan which we've been working on for several months now and are preparing to roll out publicly in the next probably couple of weeks. Certainly I expect. It will be out by the end of the month and that is going to Allow our fans and everybody to see what our priorities will be for roughly the next four or five years And then all of our decisions will flow from that. And I'm really proud to have been part of that process because it included just a a wide range of stakeholders so from alums to current student. Athletes Coaches administrators to board members to Central Administration. We it involved a lot of people and I think that that's really indicative of the fact that argument adversity understands the value that athletics can bring and I hope that it will allow people to raise their expectations of us. We're not afraid of those expectations and quite frankly we need to be a little more communicative and transparent about them. So this will be a great first steps first step towards that and I stress first step. Because it's going to outline priorities but that's when the work really begins and so- facilities will be a part of that and as we as we begin to codify those things will roll them out but I think what people can expect to see in the next couple of is okay. Here's the here's at least high level here. Are The priorities finally Kansas? You're in a unique position your your letter for years. You're captain of the basketball program. You have three degrees from Vanderbilt. You know everything that is said outside of that bubble all the noise about the commitment to athletics at a at a just a truly remarkable academic institution your doctor. You can testify to better than I can so so if you could try to answer some of that because the noise never ends about Vanderbilt's commitment to intercollegiate athletics. Now you're correct and you know I I I I hear it. As as as you've said and we know that we know what that commentary is I would say that I appreciate the passion that everybody has about us. There are high expectations of Vanderbilt Athletics. And I share that same passion and I. It has been made very clear to me that as a university we are moving forward and we are moving forward with the understanding that athletics has a great platform to unite all of us. You know we think if you walk around our building you'll see on some of our walls this mantra of the city the degree in the SEC. And we think that that's a proposition that is unique to us that that not only that we can sell but we believe in so in the backdrop of this fantastic city with a academically selective institution that second to none in the best conference in the country. I understand why everybody is interested and they just want reassurance that we're rowing in the you know we're going in the same direction and by all accounts every indication that I've received in this role is that's exactly what we're doing so I feel very confident about that. I'm sorry Paul no no I just. I'm inspired listening to you. I just can't wait to hear more so what I want. I want to close by asking you about what you referred to a minute ago. In terms of of of a reveal of of of of a vision plans. How how does that come together when you are you and your team. I mean it's not There are a lot of people that they're at. They're at work and putting this together. What is the process? So at this point we have gotten. We've gathered all the Intel. We've had all the interviews we've put structure around this and now it's a matter of of rolling it out and What will be a branded campaign and we will slowly start to tease out pieces. So that that's Kinda. We're just working on some internal details now. But that's what combination and everybody can expect to see in the next couple weeks that will actually start to articulate this and they public way and you said it involves Just like it did at the beginning. It's now involving several people to to conclude what is just a first step in the process. It's just a first step to get an announced in minutes a matter of US meeting those expectations which were really excited to do. Can destroy the joining us the interim vice chancellor for athletics at Vanderbilt. I hope you'll come back. We certainly appreciate your time today. Kansas thank you so much and I I really appreciate you and thanks for everything you do and I look forward to coming back. Thanks a lot. I can't wait all the best to you What a remarkable remarkable conversation there and I I don't really know what their next move is. But it's hard for me as just an observer to imagine that She will not be in that position permanently in fairly short period of time. What an incredible woman and we thank you for being with
Kobe Bryant Merchandise Increases In Value But Not Everyone Is Cashing In
"Just may not be the most important aspect of the death of basketball star. Kobe Bryant but after the helicopter crash that killed him some sports fans are buying or selling Kobe Bryant Memorabilia. They face a choice. Try to profit from tragedy or try to honor his memory for member station K.. PCC in Los Angeles Austin Cross reports just minutes after news of his death. Kobe Bryant related merchandise started moving fast especially the sneaker pretty much the the same day that he passed everything that we had available was just gone. Candice Grey Works at Shoe Palace on Melrose Avenue in mid city Los Angeles that the following morning we got hit. Very hard with a lot of people will Hoping to be able to grab whatever they could as far as remembrance but while some shoppers were in it for the sentiment others were just looking to make a quick buck by flipping the shoes online on one website. Shoes made famous by Bryant began selling for well over double what they were just hours hours before. Not Uncommon says robbed at the Wharton School. Well when a celebrity dies there are certainly a lot of human sentiment involved nettle spike demand. Demand in the market isn't necessarily ready for that leading to higher prices on a range of items. But did you see says the spike is just that prices level out over time that means dealers and fans must choose whether to sell now or hold on. Kobe's were here put away scattered everywhere at secondhand sneaker shop cool kicks also in mid city co owners deal Shannon based on artists chose to hold onto them. The store stocks several models released over Brian's career but man it's after news of his death the to pull them from the shelves. We felt like all the resellers Sakaria Sakari store and take all of the items. Try to make money off of his name and we were opposed to that. Everyone wants to come in either looking for an item or they want to sell the item they have you know the profit because you know they see a market gets going increasingly crazy right now to over one hundred pairs now. Sit in a bathroom kind of has this almost like a church like feel in a way because it's like these are the last of the last is that yeah as I look because while we're doing this interview I'm just looking around at the difficulties because you remember the games. He played in wider release. You know it's hard to deal with. You know not having this. The the shoe released known why that person because Kobe. Bryant's Gone Ryan's fan base. In China and Europe made him an international figure translates to a world of collectors and fans hoping to get their hands on a dwindling number of relics. Now now priced out of reach for the average sneaker had for instance. GM says pointing to a pair of Kobe ones. We had a reselling seven hundred fifty dollars and now that I'm looking at it. This shoe who is not even an existing. You find this on line. The closest shoot in this is is the nine half palm for twelve thousand dollars this is. This is my first time. Actually seeing this champs and artists don't plan to sal anytime soon and they're not the only ones putting passion over Prophet Candice Gray who we met earlier doesn't just sell Kobe gear gear. She collects it herself number. Eight Jersey Number Twenty Four Jersey. I have the og pros. I have the pros. That just came out and she doesn't plan to sell they are. You're going to go and glass. They were going to be idolized by my children's children. I I don't want to have to worry about not having something that my kids can have tangible manageable to be able to explain the magnitude of who Kobe. Bryant was though prices may sore for fans like gray memories are
Social worker charged with coercing client into prostitution
"Now a former social worker for Delaware County has been charged with human trafficking accused of asking one of our clients to join a prostitution ring he will use Paul Kurtz has the story as a case worker for children and youth services Candice tally was supposed to be helping people in need but in may of twenty seventeen Delco the Ajax goals timer says tally exploited one of her clients after discovering she had a history of prostitution and drug use run this case because the defendant was using her government position and her power that deposition gave her
Prosecutors order arrest of Bolivian ex-President Morales
"An arrest warrant has been issued for Bolivia's former president evo Morales he's wanted by the country's public prosecutor Mister Morales is currently in Argentina seeking asylum after he lost the support of the ministry and resigned in November a Latin America's at its kind these pants told me more about the charges everyone else is being accused of sedition and terrorism by the interim government in Bolivia ministers made public last month and audio recording of a phone call with the voice of a man appeared to be talking and he was talking to a cocoa union leader instructing him to organize blockades of a town to stop food supplies going in and of course the soldier hasn't been independently verified and Mister Morris has denied these charges and he said he's saying that he was set top forced to leave when the minute you make created lost the support after the presidential elections and and this Ole is a right wing coup but this does seem to look like a surgeon to sideline him and keep him out of the country at this very key time when they try to set up a new election so the time to sideline has got any support in Bolivia he retains a very strong following and particularly with his own supporters which is very large he was in power for some fourteen years and his party the moss has a majority in the Congress of Mister Mullis has said he won't be a candidate in the next elections which are being organize possibly and probably in the coming months but he has been invited to run the come the election campaign and it does look like a vote will put his weight behind it and you can do that so he will play question important role when is election dates do you come is going to be going to controversial in Chile if he's in the sidelines as will have power and be directed from the back a very difficult situation for the interim government tonight's hits president Shinin on yes has not been behaving like as an interim president which are normally that to organize election she has been engaged in the diplomatic and foreign policy issues spoken relations within a suite on Cuba which are too old allies of ever more now this is established relations with the US which is not being in place between Bolivia for at least over a decade and also there's been a campaign out to paint a room around this is a power crazed authoritarian and this is a time when she or the any opposition would have to tread very carefully with this big majority of massing Congress at the moment so there's a question there about where this interim government sees itself in the coming months Candice
Editors Square Off On Tesla Cybertruck
"Somehow in a year when we've seen the debut of a mid engined corvette hand in Electric Mustang gets tesla the manages to unveil the most controversial vehicle of the year if not the decade. If not ever I'm obviously talking about the Tesla Cyber truck which debuted last week and a circus like unveiling with sledgehammers broken glass. I bullets at an ATV. The dust has sent settled. But the controversy over the trucks designed how it was unveiled and whether or not Elon. Musk is certifiably insane. Insane continues on this week's episode Senior Editor Jeff Perez and Ice Square off on the Tesla Cyber Truck. Jeff Welcome to the show. Now let's set the stage a little I had this is my third editor head to head battle And it's also of all the first two we've done. We're also about electric vehicles as well. The first one was me versus managing editor Brandon Turkish. where he argued for the Porsche take hand and I argued good for the Tesla Model S? The second one was just last week where Chris argued against the Mustang Mach e r really just the Mustang name and I argued need for it and now here we are once again. I'm on the pro side of the equation. Arguing for the Tesla Cyber Shrek. What side are you taking i? I'm taking the Anti Cyber Truck. Take I guess not. Really the cyber truck has concept but the way everything just went went off the other night with it. Yeah I think that's an important distinction actually and I think it's one people are struggling with because obviously the trucks design is so polarizing alright so like everyone is going to have a reaction to that and I think that's okay because we we say all the time in our car reviews. That design is subjective. Beauty is subjective but but distinct from from just reacting to the design. There was the whole spectacle of the unveiling their are the preorder. There's the you know what's next. Like candice thing even reached production. There are so many questions left unanswered. Honestly this is the first head to head battle where I don't don't feel like I'm on solid ground so I'm going to try my hardest but I feel like anikin looking up at Obi Wan and him telling me not to try it because he's got the higher the ground I'm GonNa try it anyway but you you may slash my legs off with a lightsaber during this conversation. All right before we begin again. Let's tell everyone some facts about the cyber truck just so everyone knows what we're talking about This is Tesla's electric pickup truck You you can call it a concept you can call it a prototype you can. It's probably more accurately just their vision of of a truck. It has crazy design with zero curves and only only flat plains edges and points And that's because it's made out of super hard steel that forms and structural exoskeleton and the steelers so hard that it can't be stamped into complex shapes so can only be folded and used in these kind of flat flab planes or or sheets supposedly has armor level glass although we'll talk about the failed demonstration that happened during the unveiling there's a very simple spartan interior with a big screen and Tesla roadster like steering wheel. That's not actually a wheel As for the specs there's going to be three models a single motor rear wheel drive. Dual motor all wheel drive and try motor all-wheel-drive and the best specs are for the Tri Motor version that one will have five hundred miles of range. Fourteen thousand pound towing capacity thirty five hundred pound payload and zero to sixty time of two point. Nine seconds I think the most shocking SPEC that they released as the pricing this will supposedly have a base price of thirty nine thousand nine hundred dollars for the base model a single Motari wheel drive forty nine thousand nine one hundred four the middle tram dual dual motor motor all wheel drive and sixty nine thousand nine hundred four the tri motor all wheel drive and I think that's I I mean the the forty thousand dollars base prices.
Editors Square Off on the Tesla Cybertruck
"Somehow in a year when we've seen the debut of a mid engined corvette hand in Electric Mustang gets tesla the manages to unveil the most controversial vehicle of the year if not the decade. If not ever I'm obviously talking about the Tesla Cyber truck which debuted last week and a circus like unveiling with sledgehammers broken glass. I bullets at an ATV. The dust has sent settled. But the controversy over the trucks designed how it was unveiled and whether or not Elon. Musk is certifiably insane. Insane continues on this week's episode Senior Editor Jeff Perez and Ice Square off on the Tesla Cyber Truck. Jeff Welcome to the show. Now let's set the stage a little I had this is my third editor head to head battle And it's also of all the first two we've done. We're also about electric vehicles as well. The first one was me versus managing editor Brandon Turkish. where he argued for the Porsche take hand and I argued good for the Tesla Model S? The second one was just last week where Chris argued against the Mustang Mach e r really just the Mustang name and I argued need for it and now here we are once again. I'm on the pro side of the equation. Arguing for the Tesla Cyber Shrek. What side are you taking i? I'm taking the Anti Cyber Truck. Take I guess not. Really the cyber truck has concept but the way everything just went went off the other night with it. Yeah I think that's an important distinction actually and I think it's one people are struggling with because obviously the trucks design is so polarizing alright so like everyone is going to have a reaction to that and I think that's okay because we we say all the time in our car reviews. That design is subjective. Beauty is subjective but but distinct from from just reacting to the design. There was the whole spectacle of the unveiling their are the preorder. There's the you know what's next. Like candice thing even reached production. There are so many questions left unanswered. Honestly this is the first head to head battle where I don't don't feel like I'm on solid ground so I'm going to try my hardest but I feel like anikin looking up at Obi Wan and him telling me not to try it because he's got the higher the ground I'm GonNa try it anyway but you you may slash my legs off with a lightsaber during this conversation. All right before we begin again. Let's tell everyone some facts about the cyber truck just so everyone knows what we're talking about This is Tesla's electric pickup truck You you can call it a concept you can call it a prototype you can. It's probably more accurately just their vision of of a truck. It has crazy design with zero curves and only only flat plains edges and points And that's because it's made out of super hard steel that forms and structural exoskeleton and the steelers so hard that it can't be stamped into complex shapes so can only be folded and used in these kind of flat flab planes or or sheets supposedly has armor level glass although we'll talk about the failed demonstration that happened during the unveiling there's a very simple spartan interior with a big screen and Tesla roadster like steering wheel. That's not actually a wheel As for the specs there's going to be three models a single motor rear wheel drive. Dual motor all wheel drive and try motor all-wheel-drive and the best specs are for the Tri Motor version that one will have five hundred miles of range. Fourteen thousand pound towing capacity thirty five hundred pound payload and zero to sixty time of two point. Nine
Like January in November: Much of US braces for record lows
"National Weather Service meteorologist Brian Jackson says brace yourself and bundle up Minnesota Iowa Wisconsin Michigan and across the plains liking including Candice thirty temperatures in the single digits it's not just the Midwest he says three hundred records could be broken all the way south to the Gulf coast there could be some locations that are called for two days in a row in the set a record will take the cold front started in Russia basis dome of cold air came from eastern Siberia across the Arctic Ocean down Alaska Yukon and while the cold air is already here the worst is yet to come I'm Julie Walker
Colombia defense minister resigns amid pressure over bombing casualties
"The Colombian defense minister again but taro has resigned often opposition politician rebuilding Congress did not inform the public of the deaths of eight children during a military offensive against FARC rebels two months ago America's editor Candice PS triples Mister potato announced his resignation after meeting with president Yvonne do que he said the offensive had been legitimate and the Colombian minutes she had been on aware of the presence of children in the rebel camp that was bombed Guillermo potato has been battered by repeated scandals in September the government was forced to defend the report it said prove that neighboring Venezuela was supporting rebel groups and drug traffic as officials were forced to admit it contained uncredited photographs taken by major outlets in Colombia not to
Kids Not Hurt By Screentime
"And some parents worry but a new study argues against the apprehension parents may feel the danger is that they're hearing a message that social media digital technology says causing very serious and harmful problems like depression like suicide related behaviors candice authors professor of Psychological Science at the university diversity of California Irvine and the idea is that if you shut off social media which lots of kids used to connect with each other. They're friends find out information about health. You could could in fact be making a situation worse. Parents are really being sent a message that is not supported by anything scientifically authors under colleagues looked at the screen green related behavior of four hundred public school students in North Carolina Ages Ten to fourteen the group was picked as a representative sample of race and Socioeconomic Status Atas for the entire. US The researchers found that even not counting time doing schoolwork on screens kids spent between almost five hours to seven seven hours per day on their devices with older kids online the most. That's a lot of hours but overall what we find is no connection between the amount on of time the young people spend online using digital technologies and mental health symptoms like depression anxiety when we do find associations. They were actually quite surprising into uh-huh. We found that young people who sent more text messages actually reported better mental health now again. This was a small association but reflects what other the people of found that people who are very connected offline that use technology and and a positive way to stay connected often are more connected online as well and experiencing can better mental health. The new study is in the Journal clinical psychological science so why the fears about screen time authors argues that the methodologies for older studies may have led to false conclusions. One of the issues with the research that's been done to date has been that youth. Are you know in school. They have a survey put in front of them and they're asked to recall over the past six months. How often are you online and have you ever felt depressed and and the correlation between those two things has been used to spread a lot of fear around this connection between social media use and things like depression ninety nine point five five percent of the reasons that kids different oppression is due to something other than the amount of time that they spend online parents get a lot of advice and some of it always seems to conflict but odd years suggests. There's one place you can always go to get information. The hope is it more parents will hear this message and relax and spend less time worrying worrying about smartphones and more time just talking to their kids. Thanks for listening
Ohio politician blames mass shootings on 'drag queen advocates', Obama, open borders
"We've had all kinds reaction pouring into the mass shootings in date in el Paso from the weekend of politicians certainly getting there voice in opinions out but none has created more controversy than tweet that came from Middletown state representative Candice Keller it is going nationwide now viral as you say even though her post was pulled down lease made private now what she said yesterday a in the wake of the Dayton shooting laning that shooting another mass shootings on quote homosexual marriage drag queen advocates open borders and even president former president Barack Obama the long rant went on and on about the breakdown of the American family and says thank you to a trans genders of drag queen advocates like I said it in others she says that the the relaxing of laws against open borders the acceptance of criminal of recreational marijuana other of school policies for not being tough enough on kids is all lead to now what we're seeing now and the client the family in the in the breakdown of American values and as you may expect there are people on both sides of the aisles who were criticizing her for saying this especially saying it so close yeah I wasn't even twenty four hours since the shooting all right when she went off on her rant yeah I mean there been many on both sides of the aisle Democrats included of tried to ten el Paso thing on president trump and and we're hearing a lot of a political writer there's no shortage of stupid stuff that said in a time of tragedy I mean unfortunately that's just the way of it where it is right now but this does nothing I handed the eyes even said that you know they have evidence to suggest that the political rhetoric that is of so intense on both sides this led to the recent mass shootings in the certainly fueled by some of the the social media sites a couple of which icon the anti for side of been shut down
Ohio state representative blames shootings on gay marriage, video games, open borders
"Ohio state representative Candice Keller is blaming the Dayton mass shooting on several people and did in different things including open borders former president Barack Obama drag queen advocates as she puts it in gay marriage in a Facebook post the Republican from Middletown also blame video games fatherlessness recreational marijuana use and failed school policies the post is no longer public on Facebook but Keller Dick confirming a text message to the Enquirer that she did write it and it is still visible for her friends to see Cincinnati city councilman cris Seelbach ask people to call killer about the post says he tweeted her phone number
Extra's very bad week
"I'm Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Matt Bellamy of the Hollywood reporter and Matt <hes> partly because of reporting that I have done extra is facing facing what why we call a very bad week first of all this had nothing to do with me. Mario Lopez all on his own gave an interview to conservative commentator Candice Owens in which he expressed some views about how parents should treat children who may or may not be transgender and that's story one and then there's a story about the fourteen year extra co host A._J.. Calloway who has finally parted ways with the show which He says dumb thing has to apologize. We get outraged and then move on the next day the more interesting stories the A._J.. Calloway story because this is an instance where someone who literally was arrested for sexual assault the case was later dropped and had multiple allegations against him over months and months and months finally finally has parted ways with the company and the question I have is a what took so long and be what was the final Straw so to speak that caused Ause Warner Brothers to act yes. We initially reported that sexual assault allegation that where he was arrested we reported it happened in two Last year in June two thousand eighteen that he with multiple rape allegations and women who had gone to the police in three different states <hes> at least one and probably probably two of those are still active. Those investigations warners had resisted doing anything initially. They wouldn't comment at all. This is the show they obviously produce the show they they wouldn't say anything then they said well. We have had no complaints about him on the job. When we published our story last June they suspended him shortly before we published published and said they were going to investigate <hes> further so that was when he was sort of this investigation began but they wouldn't really comment and tell us the results and finally the initial accuser had him arrested she started tweeting earlier this week <hes> at Johns Danke the head of Warner media saying well what is going on with this thing and that seems to have done it finally yes. It's telling that the Warner Brothers lawyer reached out to this accusers. Lawyer hours after she started tweeting at the C._E._O.. Of the company and Lo and behold there's a statement ready from Warner Brothers saying yes we parted ways with this guy guy so we don't know exactly when this happened but why did it take a year at least for this company to make this kind of a decision about about someone <hes> <hes> who they claim they were investigating in June of two thousand eighteen. Yeah I would just say the larger story here is on multiple stories that I have reported companies have known of allegations credible ones ones that we haven't yet gotten to publish and done nothing for months and months on end an only when it becomes public in an embarrassing. It doesn't really seem to come to any kind of conclusion and I have to say in this case. It got really had to get really embarrassing. <hes> thank you matt the Hugh. That's Melanie editorial director of the Hollywood reporter. He joins me this Monday
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"So there's a whole monologue at the beginning of that where he's saying the only way that you'll get your girlfriend back is if you stop thinking about her because they know if you care, and if you care, then they're not going to think about you. So you just have to stop carrying the minute. You stop carrying you become more peeling them. And I think there's a parallel between that and what you're describing. Yeah. If you come across as desperate who wants about someone. I want somebody to to. I don't wanna show up that party and people be like Candice is here. What's she doing here? I would they think that I don't know. This is what goes on in my mind. I think this is why I ended up being. Like a introvert. I thought it was an extrovert when I was younger. I thought I was like let's go wherever and I'm not I just wanna stay at home with people trust. Through my head show, but the parties what Racine hawk Hogan's WWF entrance in the nineteen sixties. Yes. Where it's like the lights turn off send his music starts playing. It's like, I am a real man Ricken that was his entrance music and fireworks goes off. And he comes in. Bear bear 'bout barren out there, and he'd tears off his shirt, and everybody's screaming his name when I go to like a black tie event. That's what I feel like everyone's thinking. I walked to the door. The horse race in South Africa. That's what I felt like in the room with all those all the Cartier executives, and I would have been like to even know that my grandfather was part of this club. How do I let them know that I definitely belong here. And I was just ending on the table flexing..
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"How you guys manage to keep this a question from Anatole? How do you guys managed to keep each other in mind while building your own companies? It seems hard to lose each other during such a process, which is never ending. Oh, I need you very much in in like a lot of my decisions. It's just about sounding board. I think for each of us, right? When you say, so. Yeah, I mean, it's not like you're gonna take my advice or I have to take your advice. But sometimes you just need to talk about it with someone who's not actually part of the equation. Then the relatives to like, there's a we have a lot of distractions in our relationship that go beyond our professional lives. But speaking just about our professional lives like I talk at Candice about work like four hours a day. And of this four hours, I might be talking to Kansas of our work like ten minutes is that fair you've me actually, ten minutes. We're actually listening to other four hours. You just don't tell me to stop talking. And then Kansas comes to me for work advice with some level of frequency wherein. I give her my absolute undivided attention. And then give her the most hardline aggressive. Agro men advice. There is locally call that motherfucker back in. Here's what you tell them. And then I go back to my team. And I'm like, Casey sad. But I think yeah, I do think that if either of us had jobs. No, let me say it differently. I think the fact that both of us are entrepreneurs even though Kim's make jewelry, I make videos couldn't have different. But the fact that both of us are entrepreneurs means that we both face very similar struggles. And there are a lot of parallels. I actually think that even though it keeps away from one another a lot. It's a it is something that we share and bond over you know, like actors did actors. Yes, they understand the world. We're like entrepreneurs who sort of don't know what we're doing out as we go. If an entrepreneur who knows what they're doing is not an entrepreneur. Ooh. Boom. Bam box it up. Okay. How do you find everybody's asking the same question? Which is how do we find time for our relationship because we both have busy lives and you lived together. We'll we live to. Yes, we don't really have much relationship outside of. That's just what happens you, get married. You get into like a routine, and you talk while one person's in the shower or like on the way out to get coffee. And that's it don't make no misconceptions. There's no like Casey and Candice time. We're gonna date seeing songs heads making out. He doesn't happen. This podcast is the most time we spend the other one on one. Which says a lot considering we haven't done a podcast and six weeks, and then beyond that, there's nothing nothing. We don't even go on vacations anymore. No, never just the two of us invited you today. You said no because I want to find that far. Never. So there isn't I wouldn't have any misconceptions like we have. This you could expand to like just being married in general lights through you know, there's that thing that happens when. Well, they say that happens. There's like the blue period after you have your wedding because you expect it to be so amazing, and you spend your year planning it, and then you're fucking married, and then like, you communicate via text, and like you're lucky if you sit down for dinner together and sometimes during the day, I can get you on the phone usually not. That's just it. You just become like a. A team that dances around each other. Honestly, the bigger concern is what's going to happen to a relationship? When like the kids grow up move out. We've actually hanging out again. Well, that's when we're getting a divorce, right? Because then we can move onto phase two. Yes. But you have to get a sect me because I don't want you to have told to want to have another family every twenty years twenty years. I want to have another family. This is okay. Let's human..
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"Okay. So we've been gone for about a month and a half because we had a baby Candice had a baby I was just sort of sitting there watching, and I think it's going to be back. But I'd like to start today's episode talking about probably the biggest thing that happened in our lives since we left. Do you wanna tell them or should I tell them we had a second child? No, no, no. That's not it. Nobody cares about that. What is it? It's thing about the car. He decided. Well, I decided that I'd like tesla. Why? Even though it rains inside the car when he goes. And Wang literally rains for those of you just joining couples therapy with Candice and Casey few months ago. I decided that it would be great idea for us to get a new car in the form of a tesla and Candice objected vehemently, and has tortured me tortured me ever since buying the tesla because it's not what she wanted. And she hates me, she wants to divorce because I got an electric car, and she doesn't like electric cars. And she can't believe I bought it. And why did you buy just landless Louis? And then we're having this talk. And she's like, I, you know, at some point in time, I need my own car. And I'm like, okay, cool. You still want to get that Toyota. Let's look at them. Sue big house it coolest get a little sedan. No two like small, and then she mumbles these words. She goes steady. I really want to have to put gas. What did you say? This is nicer baron gas? I guess. Said sure it's kind of like that's that. And the captain's seats the only things that I like saw that car. So I'd like to congratulate you on musk a hard convert over here hard, a wide is it rain in the car door. There are some shortcomings. It's a young car company making, you know, they make affordable vehicles. They're not affordable for they make great vehicles that run on batteries like your cell phone..
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"I think that the recipe or at least my diagnosis for my current like impending burnout is a couple of things. Busy is not the same as burnout. Neither is tired. I can be strong nearly busy tired, even overworked and not be burned out. I did whatever. It was seven hundred videos in a row that missing a single day. That did not burn me out. So I think it's a combination of like if you're making a burnout cake, you have to put in equal parts, busy and tired. That's a given that I've always had that thrive at the intersection of busy and tired, but then you have to mix in uncertainty, which is what you're talking about, like new things, things have changed. You can't stay till ten PM anymore. We're having another baby all that uncertainty sort of shrouds the busy in the tired with things like confusion and things like lack of clarity in that lack of clarity makes it impossible to focus in. Then for me, the inability to focus gets manifestos frustration. So down this sort of three emotions, and I'm constantly feeling are busy busy on the motion, but busy tired and frustrated. And for me that is the exact recipe for burnout. There's a secret ingredient to I'm assuming that people who experience. You to burn out are the ones that are successfully uploading every day, not the ones that are just doing it for like, this is their line. Okay. Keep going. Once something becomes a courier. There's more responsibility with it and that responsibility causes stress, and it takes part of your brain power also and like you have people that work for you. That's not something you just ignore. It's something else, I know, but you can't. Can you try? So I'm sure there's other YouTubers who have done this who are experience about to experience burnout who part of it was like they just it's not just about having fun, like what's up fun thing you say, say, how do you how. How do you? How do you take something you love and make it something you hate make it your career? Yeah. Yeah, that's what makes me so mad when people are like, you don't really work. You don't have a job. It's like bitch, the minute, someone pays you to do something. It's not a hobby anymore. Immunes you're responsible for deadlines and deliveries and work, and that is stress, and that can cause burnout yet. Yeah, this is a bit of a digression, but let's go down this path a little bit. The upsides to clarify the ups before we start bitching, the upsides of bitch, bitch. Yup, sides of owning your own business. The upsides of working for yourself, grossly outweigh the downsides. So I won't be abundantly clear with that. That prelude that it is always better to work for yourself into work for someone else, but there are giving takes there. So you know, it's like. I have a good friend who has very cut hours in a job that by definition, he can't bring home. You know, I'm talking about in Connecticut. He doesn't bring their job home but doesn't go home with him. So therefore, like he doesn't work for himself in the upside of benefit. He gets that we will never ever ever even come close to. It was once he walks out of his place of work, he's completely disconnected from it. That is a luxury that is drew a dream. So when you look at owning your own business or working for yourself, like Candice and I the, there's no escape..
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"I one, there's no easy solution that, but I can tell you from being the the guy in relationship like we lived in an apartment, they can this bought. I didn't pay for and it was a constant constant sort of it always felt a little bit emasculating for me. I always struggled with it. And now we live in an apartment that I paid for in. It's such a sense of pride. I'm not saying that that's a good thing. It's a sense of pride for me and I don't. I don't know what, what that what that's like for Candice, but I can tell you that I've lived on both sides of that fence is what I'm trying to say. And I think because of sort of societal norms, it's very hard for a man to be with a woman who has more than he does. And as the. Woman. I think that the more could be positioned as circumstance. Like, you know, you are fortunate to be a nurse and that's not to marginalize the amount of energy you put into schooling and what it took for you to get there. But he could just be an dark place right now, I, I don't know the circumstances, but it could just be shitty place right now, this construction company, and he could rebound and you may struggle in the future. And I think the more you communicate in and around those things, the better it can feel, you know, like I remember when I had nothing in like Candace had to use her mom's credit card to pay for a hotel room to sleep in in Connecticut, nowhere else to stay. And the only way I could make myself feel good about that was to turn her and be like someday I'll buy you a house someday. I'll do this for you someday. Like all all will change this and it took ten years. But in that moment, just that sort of ackknowledgement that I know you're pulling more weight right now than I am, but this is there's an epic flow to this. Just acknowledging that made me a little bit more confident now I'd like to think it made her a little bit more comfortable. So I think to like, just translate that into women talk. What Casey I would take from Casey's little ditty is you may be frustrated that year, the bigger Arner right now. And if you are frustrated, he can feel it. And if he can feel it, he's going to feel like shit. So feel small, fail small, and it's just gonna be a fight. So if you can tolerate it and make him feel like, look, I know you're gonna get back on your feet or. What can I do to help you? As long as he's not, you don't want it to turn into like. I don't know where the guy doesn't even try to get a job anymore because he feels like it. It would end before that because if he's just made to feel small, small small, he just gonna bail. Yeah, right. Yeah. You're gonna have to put on your big girl panties and support your man. Sorry, that's what you have to do and not fight about it. 'cause you fighting about it or even bringing it up, it's going to make him feel like shit and going to send him down darker to all the gentlemen out there who who support their wives or their families. It's the same thing in that. You know, you as the breadwinner can never hold that against your spouse. I mean, I already feel like it took me so long to feel like that apartment was mine too. You saw to feel comfortable using my credit card to buy expensive sneakers..
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"Before he came downstairs, everything you speak in circles. You eat like every five minutes here myself talking and I'm like, oh my God. Everybody knows. I'm stoned right now. That's what it sounds. You look around your wonder if everybody else is still Now there. they're like, you look at people like, I wonder if they know I would do wanna bring up. I think I kind of have a good theme for today before we get into that. CNN, ask a question. You did an interview with a weed themed magazine yesterday. While being eight months pregnant is Ernie concerns about how that may impact your future life in politics. That interview at eight months pregnant is not what's going to harm future politics. I promise you that there's plenty to work with. I'm sitting at my desk at our apartment working candice's with these two journalists, fantastic magazine called gossamer gossamer, check it out gossamer it's really, really great magazine sort of a, we'd lifestyle magazine. It's not it's a lifestyle magazine for people who also like we'd, there's a, this is a distinction. You're absolutely right. Like it's not a this isn't high times. It's much like a lifestyle magazine in any event. I hear over there. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep, Yep. About God knows what I hear taking u-turn talking about her life with weed. Throw off my headphones, scream over there. They do not do not use my name in this entire interview Candice, please. Okay. Wait, you're about to say something important. I think I have actually very good topic for this week. Feel like we're almost out of time. Just kidding. I mean, we could. We could keep talking about, read magazines, know what's your topic. Women who are pregnant, how they feel with their partners, but I don't know, just fine. The percentage of our audience is pregnant a lot most most of them almost every almost everybody. That's female. Everybody who listens to this podcast is pregnant. Yeah, I just want to send out a big fat and gradually Our our listeners listeners. slow you wanna talk about this is this is the question. How long do you parent your children for? Did you just write that down? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think I've said before that it's so much easier being a parent of a three year old than is being a parent of a twenty year old of being the parent of a teenager. I watch like I have two adopted twin step sisters, and I watched my dad as like a grown man. Me as grown man who was married and had kids I watched. My dad has to be a dad again, two teenagers with with the girls, and I was like, oh my God. Bless his sweet. My dad, literally, this is not an exaggeration when his wife, my dad's wife, this is not my mom. My dad married when his wife would be fighting with her twin teenage daughters. My dad would go hide in the garage. So, but no dance. Your question, what is it appropriate to stop parenting? I don't know. I, I don't. My parents never really parented, but I still call your mom when I need mom to talk to. Well, that's what I. There's a difference between like parenting and crossing boundaries. So with my parents, I really welcome them parenting me even at the age of forty, my mom can give me advice or tell me I'm doing something right or wrong, and it's constructive. I listen, I appreciate then there's difference though between like crossing boundaries where it's like, you can't tell me what to do anymore because I'm a grown woman. And I'm just wondering like, so when I was twenty two, I moved to New York and it was a bartender, right? And after about a year of playing and bartending and like rolling in cash and just having fun, my mom was like, okay, you're done like wants to her bra off for patron at the bar for under dollar Bill. I tell that story. Oh my God, I did do that. And that was a good brought to kind of wish. I never did it what a weirdo. I was desperate for attention when you first home that story when we first met when you're twenty seven, all these. When you were twenty seven, twenty four. All these thoughts went through my head. One was like what a loser. Thanks one one will. Could you like the man who ate cat food. Yeah. And then not judgmental. You just you said it to me in such a way..
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"What are the practical implications of being treated like that at such a vulnerable time, either you do everything perfectly or you're a failure, that's what you feel like. No. And then dismissive when you struggle. I have to quit. Yes. Like, I'll never like exactly. I came this far. This is the best I can do. So I'm not going to try again. Just like that woman said, don't try when I really found out that I liked fine arts at the school like arc and they didn't really have a good art focus. It was sports and academics and I would stay after school for hours because the art teacher would let me use the materials, but they never once said, you know, lemme lemme nurture this part of what you're really good at. It was just like, oh, Candice. Just likes to daydream and play with the clay. There was an, I got nothing Candice that movie Rushmore Wes Anderson's. Rushmore is one of the greatest films of all time. What you should see if you haven't seen yet, so good. So Wes Anderson went to Kim says high school and the high school that he used as Rushmore in the movie. Rushmore was the actual high school that Candace went to. I have two more anecdote how deep arena. Okay. Go just quick. When this is the kind of school it was. I was considering leaving junior to go to public school. I did not leave. I tried out for cheerleader. I did not make chiller thought it was weird. 'cause like I definitely should have made sure leader. I see cheerleader. And a year later I asked the coach, I said, why didn't I make cheerleader that go, oh, well, we heard a rumor that you weren't coming back. So I didn't want to give your spot to someone else. That's not how it works. I was enrolled for school. You don't give mice, but you know, more mortifying it was that they didn't make the cheerleading team where we talking about today, babe. Well, I went to DP this morning. Okay. Why don't you tell them with their p today? Do I get to go every time? It's just when we have trouble NIA if you ever want to go, you just ask. But except for that one time when I went there and in the super awkward because we didn't have any problems to resolve. Right? That's why you don't come unless there's something. Okay. So what did she say or are you? Well, I told her about how yesterday was really mean to Franny in the morning. That's not fair. She came in and wind and wind and wine, and I just couldn't take it because I hadn't slept at all. So I called your name and I was like, take her..
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"My parents for like i didn't know where it was isis sneak in imagine this as a parent isis making break into my parents house like like when they weren't home at sneak in and steal all their food like i go grocery shopping parents house and i thought it was funny i also didn't have any money for food but i thought it was funny but imagine being apparent being like my own how steal food from me by poor okay i'd take a long hard look at myself in the parent mirror and be like that's fair that's completely fair but i was also bad kid owns a good kid and it's still really hard 'cause it's harder with owen qazi so good that's right like when you do try and put your foot down for something and he fights back you're like i mean i get it you're not a bad kid still need to listen to me and those are the complexities like trump is with us in touch news awesome having the whole family together especially because we see him sell them college three thousand miles away but it was just like confronting the big questions i remember he asked me about plans for next year and stuff as we're sitting outside and i was by myself and you weren't next and i like i like stop making eye contact look down at the ground is he's talking to me and i was like let me think about candice let me think about let me talk this through candice and then it's explaining to both of us and you were giving him your advice you were like own i'm not your mother i'm in an awkward position here he's like i know my dad listens whatever you say the most important person for me to be petitioning noses those shit good negotiate well we'll see anyway whatever it makes me terrified when francine's a teenager because she will not be good she's going to be awesome so bad between you and me i mean between who you are and who i am and who we both were just bad do you know what i used to do and i actually learned how to do this because my mom told me that she did it when she was younger on in south africa and you know that hill that the driveways on she told me that she used to put the car neutral and push it up the hill so she it's sneak out so i used to do that my house raised i used to turn on in neutral push it all the way out into a double lane boulevard like two lanes going north two lanes going south in the middle of the night and drive to like boys houses and.
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"Could and you'd have to work on it if you could go even deeper which is that like if you're trying to share your life with someone who so fundamentally different it would require like an extra level of energy effort to really be able to empathize and understand with someone like that and when it comes to socialising i can't think of something more stressful to try to to try to really understand okay so i wanna sign off today by talking about how we're going to be consistent in the future because candice we have our summer trip coming up and we're going to be out of new york city for a couple of days next week including wednesday when we normally record can bring microphones or something okay so i just wanna understand for the record you wanna record this remote lift we've can we put the burden on you to make sure we don't miss it sure crack that whip honey crack that whip no that's it for this week that is this week's episode of couples therapy is going to be back in front of the microphones i miss this and hopefully barring some unexpected trip to the hospital we'll be back next week on regularly scheduled friday morning drop of couples therapy with candice in casey you have to say so moves and episode to be honest with you maury i'm a horse family reference all right see laser.
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"Kansas had three nose jobs in her life and i don't know how much truth there this no there's truth this story she's had three jobs but when shoes how five seven when she's seven years old she dropped a barbell plate off like a bench press on her little tiny seven year old candice face and it completely destroyed her nose my nose in half blood everywhere so rushed my crushed it's fake right here and but when we i i i started dating really fell in love with her nose fixed and i just remember her picking up at the airport i don't have you ever seen somebody who's had their nose job those jobs before don't google it but it's like a cartoon it's like it's like a low budget b movie where they're making got hit by a car like two black eyes bandages tampons in her nose and then a huge piece of white tape that goes almost from ear to ear and she's like i probably are there tried to make out with you and you're like yeah this is like when we first started dating and it was about as like you're about as affectionate as ever when you when you're that early in a relationship and that night yeah i remember you getting close me being like okada get her awake you're a monster okay this is that time the week where we take questions from you at home boys and girls if you have if you listen to podcasts available everywhere but if you listen to podcasts using the anchor app anchors the company worked with the producers podcast you can leave us voicemails and we play them back and we answer questions okay first question.
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"Yeah a friend no let's rent a car and drive and go somewhere and we'll sit in the car and we talk for hours like i can't deal with francine tug at me all the time said rent a car is because you don't like the color of drive it we talk about that did you talk about that last week i don't know change the color without telling me i got a tesla because i always wanted one and i'm a sucker and when you go to the tesla's store to buy one they'll gladly take down payment on your credit card right you don't have to ply you don't do any of that stuff they just take your money and on a whim i was like all right let's do it peer pressure in kansas picked out the colors and okay this is actually this dovetails their expectations conversation very well kansas picks out the colors and i was like she was like get whatever colors you want but if i'm giving input i will get this and she wanted it to be black outside in cream on the inside that's fine and then the next day i was out with my running partner we went by the tesla dealership in brooklyn and it had the colors that i want which is the storm trooper like white on the outside and the inside black accents black wheels and he and i are looking at that then we're looking at that and i was like dude this is where i want and he's like this is the best color scheme highfives lots of bros and then i went home and change it and then i neglected to inform candice of that change until we crossed the threshold where you could no longer make changes accident i'm sure it'd have none accident and she has not let it go from more than two hours since that happened about a week ago well with all due respect you keep digging you you love to get a rise out of my out of that if you didn't bring it up i wouldn't talk about it but he's got his friends texting me's in kansas white on white tesla's awesome i'm so excited about it so excited about.
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"Found the movie that was the right time for you you came and said you didn't even come i heard you and then i yelled at you before you even came to ask me before you should be like i don't i don't i don't i think that if you take a step back it's how important do i feel in your rundown of what is going to happen that day so at that moment with dean teens brother you weren't considering me you are making plans with him or let me run this by candice at what why why my dream expectation is that you would say you know what some forty fives probably a really bad time let me just check with candace because i think it'd be better if we went to a movie after nine is what i expect you to think of i don't expect you to think like okay so you using the word expect now so we're getting back to your thesis expectations are really bad they are back next on the other side of the fence it's like us can you not like also expect you to replace the toilet paper if it's done and you do that do that you do that here's expectations that don't that aren't met that don't bother me too much an expectations do giving the weeds some more generically navigate this let me if i view some examples that you see a pattern so i expect you to put the seat down when you always do that yes i expect you to put the dishes in the dishwasher at the end of the night you don't always do that but i don't really bitch about it do i do that so you do not meet my expectations for something like that but that's okay i exit who it i expect you to not eating bed but you do i do is fucking discuss matters discussing we have a white carpet in our bedroom and stained all over it is not stand all over i expect you to use a damn cutting board instead of cutting on the do you see the damage to our counter that was not for me that counters ten years old.
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"In one direction was casey in one direction was candice right but you know how when in like sitcoms or whatever and the wife's pregnant it's like oh honey what do you need honey what are you gonna need for that and honeywood and i felt like that was the time where i needed just to be as selfish as i could possibly be not just to be selfish but like if there's a time that's forgivable if i were pregnant right now and you are traveling let's say this this whole situation was right now and i are pregnant with our second kid and you are a forty five minute flight away on boston comfortable was hysterically crying because i had it's not scabies what the fuck is it called shingle shingles and was noxious and i do anything that the whole time by the way i just uncomfortable with that word let's just say we've come a long way in our relationship right now and i called you and i said casey please i need you you would without a doubt and this is how far we've come shouldn't keep saying far become because it sounds repetitive but you would no doubt my mind that casey nice out right now with get on a plane it'd be like guys i'm so sorry i have to go to my wife she needs me back then there was no way we had an data too far we've we've both come yeah agreed because right now you wouldn't right now if you crazy russian everything hurt or you were sick you wouldn't be like screw you you monster how dare you i hate you know you'd be like casey helped me yeah and that's what you were like back then it was like.
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"She's like i didn't know pack it like my mom when you left i was out with my mom and dad and she's like that casey likes you i was like no he doesn't she's like no he really likes you and something happened i was like interesting how did not get that i really liked to climbing your bed you three times twenty in my twenties and hot in new york all guys wanted from me was one thing i just thought that's what you wanted when mom was like he really likes you oh well that's different that's that's something i haven't experienced before no and then i went away and i just remember like calling you and your mother answer and that's it and then that was it we came in paris near like speaking to my mom and then she ended the phone you go so i'm getting back on sunday do you want to go on a date next week and i was like yep and that was it and then like three weeks later we were married for the first time just not into fucking around it comes to dating one to lock it up our first date was really exciting sitek candice to the movies we saw kung fu hustle do you remember that and right after the movie was over i grabbed her in like kicked in a fire escape door and then we were in like this abandoned fire only exit for the fourteenth street movie theater in new york city and just grabbing in started making out there like it was like a romantic comedy or something and i remember you stopped and you're like how many other girls have you brought in this percents really hungry other girls have you brought this theater ama terrible liar immediately averted eye contact and shook my head stare remove before how i not come clean to you about this.
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"So haunt crybaby i understand what you're understand what you're saying it's it's when i think of brad pitt i think of fight club and he's you know he's he's character you don't really know what he's like your little bit shy to go up to them but you people think you're there bro and like it's not a big deal so i think that i have unique perspective in that i'm like so close to watching people abuse and take advantage of the fact that you are living breathing person they can come up to and then i also have my fr my parents okay i'll tell a story in south africa story yeah so so south africa's really bad because cape town's a small town especially like where we stay in the things that we do in the places we go it's the same places all the time let me give a little context with the audience interpret story candice for the don't knows born in south korea body knows love it it's like this little this little like this so the different countries okay so there was a kid that asked for a selfie and of course your when the timing's right which you are very generous with yourself us you'll stop and take a picture and then go about your business the same kids saw you again in like checkers and for your picture again and you're like dude i saw the other day okay let's take a picture but that was like enough already like you got your picture back off and then my family friends shows up at our home.
"candice" Discussed on Couples Therapy with Candice and Casey
"So glad you thank you for coming okay you know what it is though for couples i think tell me it's not even that we're fighting over something it's that the fight is not a fight it's your frustrated because you don't understand what i'm saying and i'm frustrated that you don't understand what i'm saying so we go to her and she's like casey why don't you tell me why you're here today because she knows what what whatever is going on is like i'm it's my fault 'cause i can't explain it like a rational human instead of irrational emotional female to generalize well i mean that's kind of it like we get into like the whole thing is usually it's usually it's just we need a person to translate literally translate what you're trying to say to me what i'm trying to say to you and that's why we walk out of there and we're like oh that's all you wanted in that's and that's what it is that's what it is for us and i think that there's there's there's so much about psychiatry and dock and going to a doctor and and all that that is more that is on the mental health side and that's that's very real in kansas does like i've been with kansas how long have you been together as so insane people listening to this right now that aren't even fifteen years old we've kids i've been together since we were both children in diapers and candice has you know there's times when she's gone to therapist and times when she has it and she's just better when she does and i think that's that's her focusing on her own mental health which is something that i'm both appreciative of in jealous of i wish i gave my brain as much attention as she gives hers but when we go together it's literally just having like it's having a referee for our fistfight at the end of it we feel good it's about communication.
"candice" Discussed on The Filmcast
"This is shouldn't be any ah trend this is this should be something mr come a lot more natural tourismconscious be a lot more normalize and so i was just saying in my peas that we need to this needs to be something that we don't have to also present in strictly the form of a superhero movie in order for it to be appreciated there are so many different genres and i talked about quina contrary or mentioned earlier on and our conversation but that's just one of many examples that we need to talk about film and tv that has black and brown people in a in a way that's not just whenever is trending or whenever um in or whatever is represented in a superhero movie this is be something that we need to be conscious up at all times wool candace we are really grateful for you coming here on the special guest today um showing your perspective with us uh we really appreciate it and a glad we've got to do it for such an awesome movie that's going to be a huge part of the cultural zeitgeist i think for many years to come so thanks luck uh let's wrap up you can find more episodes of this podcast it's less from kessler com email us flesh and cassidy molo com or theme song come from at a walk dot com are spoiler bumper comes from filmmaker cowl hill injure stay tuned to hear will be discussed next week in the meantime candice if people wanna find more of your work where can they go on the internet.